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Hey y'all, welcome back to another episode of Hosts and Fletch Girls.

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So we have not one but two guests today.

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We got Chiyuki here, the artist, and then we got her producer, Tommy.

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And then, Kella, you want to introduce yourself?

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Hey y'all, I'm Kella. Y'all knew that already though.

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So we just oiled here today.

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Well, first we want to start with our Life Be Life segment.

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So all of us basically with this segment, you just give like a little, like a little one minute update for Nail on like where you're at in life.

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So we're going to have you go first since you two guests.

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Okay, word. Right now where I'm at in life, I'm just like rehearsing, getting everything together with my brand.

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I have a show May 13th at World Live Cafe.

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So yeah, I've just been working crazy on that, getting the set list down.

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I'm bringing in background vocalists this time around.

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So I'm super excited.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah, so really just like getting that set down pack.

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That's where I'm at.

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I'm happy for you.

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Thank you.

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Who got you?

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Me right now, I've been kind of just working on our studio space that we just built.

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So that's like the biggest thing for me right now.

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And we have a single coming out next week.

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So that's kind of what we've been gearing up to roll out and everything.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't know.

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I'm about to get promoted at my job.

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Nice.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully you don't ever find any of this content.

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Please Lord, I'd be really scared because this is a really good job.

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And I'm like real proud of myself for like actually because I wasn't even going to go

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for it.

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My boss was the one who recommended me to like apply for it and everything like that.

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So yeah, shout out, shout out to her.

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Thank you girl.

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So my birthday coming up.

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I'm super excited about that.

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It's tourist season today is April 20th.

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So that's the beginning of the tourist season.

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Also, I'm moving into my apartment.

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So I'm excited about that.

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So I don't know.

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That's kind of where we at right now.

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I guess as a brand, like we've been doing good.

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We've been doing real good.

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So good that I had to cut a couple of people off.

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No, real shit.

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Fuck you, bitch.

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It'd be like that.

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I'm going to get out of this segment right now and we want to talk about your single.

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Now I want you to tell me what is the single about because I have, because you know how

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people, they digest music differently.

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So I might feel like your single is about something different in which you initially

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like what is your single like actually.

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That's so cool because like I'm interested to hear like.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So when I was listening to it, I kind of got the feel that it was about like your fucking

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girl or somebody and you just don't know where it's going to land or where it's going to end up.

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And you kind of just wondering where it's going to fall.

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That's what I got from it.

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Oh my gosh.

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I thought about it like more so like overarching.

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It doesn't actually have to be like romantic kind of just like what the fuck is going on.

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That too.

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That's because that's where I'm at right now.

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That's so interesting.

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So what is it about?

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So the song is actually about kind of just like I want to say like this motif that represents

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kind of like you were saying like where is this?

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Where are we at in life?

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What's happening?

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Okay.

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Just I want to say like a matter of like life and death and during this time of my life,

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this is kind of when I was like experimenting with shrooms and different stuff.

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I love shrooms.

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I still got to try it.

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Oh my God.

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Yeah.

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I feel like I've gotten what I needed from those journeys.

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So I don't really do shrooms and stuff anymore.

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But um.

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I don't do that anymore either.

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Just like kind of this like I wanted to do like this like retrospective things like looking

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in the past and like also looking inward like introspective and just I don't know like a wonder

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of like what is our purpose here?

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What really matters?

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Like where do we go when we die?

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Like kind of just a combination of all of these different like feelings and curiosities.

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And yeah, just kind of putting them in like a repetitive like almost like chanting type

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of thing.

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That's where I've been recently.

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We be talking about that all the time.

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We be like where is life going to take us?

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Maybe I should start doing shrooms again because I feel like I need to start doing shrooms so

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I can really do truly do some introspection.

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I feel like you have to be in a good headspace for that because I've been in a bad headspace

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in these shrooms and why I felt like I was going to die.

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That's scary.

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Like and also I recommend micro dosing instead of like doing it like full on because.

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So I feel like that's why like I like got what I needed from my experiences and assured

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amount of time because I like started tripping apes from the rip.

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You guys just go all in.

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I did it one time and I was like in my bed like like I felt like I was like well if

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there's a heaven I'm about to go to it and I hope I'm not going to go to hell.

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So like how did you come up with like the same or like what was that process like.

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For me I guess it always starts kind of like with a melody like I really like the kind

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of it's like a uplifting chord progression.

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And I think I kind of like contrast the music so the chord progression doesn't really lend

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itself to maybe like a dancier type of rhythm but I figured I was like let's try something

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else with this one.

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And yeah when I sent her to the beat you know she I guess she kind of just like you know

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let the words flow and it just came to it.

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It's really reminiscent of like for me it reminds me of like Pink Pantherous.

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Like it really as soon as I heard it I was like oh yeah I could definitely hear like

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Pink Pantherous on this.

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It sounds like something you would hear at Coachella too.

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I like that.

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That's interesting.

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Yeah and you got like she got like the little sexy tone going on with her voice so yeah.

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It's very anti-pop like the way like it's so upbeat but the lyrics are very like low-key

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existential.

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I felt it.

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It was like I feel like an angsty teenager.

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Is that what she was going for though?

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It wasn't.

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It wasn't?

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Not at all.

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More like very more mature I'd say than like angsty teenagers.

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I love hearing other people's like interpretation of music though because it just shows like.

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Because I see her sitting there and she like how like bendable and stuff it is and I think

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that's really cool how it could fit into like so many different spaces.

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Yeah but I could see that too which you just said like I could hear all of it.

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Because it was almost more so church inspired for me.

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Take us through that.

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That's crazy how everybody digest music differently.

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Yeah but take us through that.

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Take us through that.

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Like you were saying like the chord kind of being like they're like uplifting like almost

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like a religious type of like hymn to me.

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Like that's where the like the part like lift my spirit out of here is like I tried to do

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like these vocal inflections of like a I don't want to say a preacher but almost like the

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lead vocalist of like a church choir.

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I just want to give you that lift my like you know.

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But you know what now that you say it I kind of hear it like I get that.

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I get that.

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But I did want to talk about because I know we do our research on people before they come

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So I know you started out as a songwriter.

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And you were a musician who was singer.

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So what was that like like walk us through that process.

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It was really cool.

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I feel like Tommy is one of the people who kind of helped like nurture me singing because

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originally when I started as a songwriter I wanted to sing and everybody was like you

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suck please stop this right.

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You're trying to sing me.

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I don't mean to laugh at your misfortune.

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No I swear to God my brother will tell you like I used to sit next to me like audio if

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you don't shut up these songs like so yeah it was funny.

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Tommy I feel like was the first person I worked with that had like the production the skill

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and just like that energy like it was like a synergy the first time we worked together

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it was like super crazy.

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So finally having the space to I feel like nurture like I said our voice for a for a

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like I started singing differently before when I was writing music I'm trying to sing like

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super high pitch like Beyonce different female singers I was listening to and I felt like

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I feel like working with Tommy gave me like a space to kind of like explore the range

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of my tonality.

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Oh that or more so just foster her own sound because I feel like especially when you are

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a student of music you tend to try to mock people that you hear or that you are inspired

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by I mean like so that leads into my question where was your inspiration when you were younger

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like who were your go-tos and how do they influence how you make music now.

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I feel like a lot of my inspirations are very old very much like 60s 70s Gil Skyheron

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Sly and the Family Stone just off top of my head but honestly I didn't want to be a

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singer as a child I didn't want to be a songwriter I didn't want to be anything of that nature.

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What did you want to be.

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I felt like I was going to school to be a criminal defense attorney honestly and life took like

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a big turn of events for me my best friend ended up passing and he was the one who did

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like music graphic design production.

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Yeah so I kind of just started doing this to continue his legacy and got a positive response

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up until I met Tommy and then it was just like up from there.

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Now how did y'all meet you and Tommy?

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Yeah so I have we have a mutual friend he goes by the name of June Robb I ever you know him

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and I used to have a studio in my uncle's basement down in West Philly and we just kind

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of go down there and just like cook up I took sessions I recorded people made beats and

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he brought Chiyuki through one time and she was just like a fly on the wall for her she

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didn't even say much for her and I kind of already known her because we had mutual friends

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growing up like you know I had a friend named Simone shout out to Simone but yeah we didn't

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say much the first time we met and then she wound up coming through or actually what

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happened was I wound up following her on Instagram and she posted a snippet of a song and it was

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waiting it was waiting and I was like yo this is different like it was this ownality in her

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voice I was like man this is something here so I invited her down and we did a record

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the first record we did was enchanted I don't know if y'all heard that one but um yeah after

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that I was just like yo let's let's lock in like that's really like you know crafty sound.

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Is it important because I've always wanted to ask like a producer and like a singer is it

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important to have like chemistry? Yeah absolutely. I feel like that that's like across the board

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it has to be. So having chemistry like what are like the what's the outcome of that I guess

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like what because I feel like I've heard some singers like they've said stuff like oh you

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know you know I'm not necessarily like well not compatible but I don't necessarily have

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chemistry with my producer but we still make like fire music but for y'all y'all said that

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it's important so like what was like the outcome of it like since y'all have that chemistry?

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I can say for me because I do also understand that point like not having that like initial

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chemistry with somebody and still being able to create great music. Yeah. But I also feel

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like for me in my music you can hear the difference so like I have other producers I have worked

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with and I've made great records with them like really grand awesome records but when Tommy

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and I work together it's like you feel something different within these records that can't

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necessarily be replicated with someone that you don't have that synergy that chemistry

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with it's like a different type of you know when people like cook with love you know almost

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like that. You can definitely tell. You know you can really tell like. Put your foot in this one. Yeah for real.

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I kind of feel that way like even with me and Kayla because and in the beginning it was like

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two other girls it was so chaotic and I didn't have chemistry with them and it was a whole fall

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and out we're not gonna get into that but I found that me and Kayla. Shout out to them.

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Shout out to them because we in a better place now. Fuck y'all bitches. But it definitely

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is important because when me and Kayla works together like we've balanced each other out

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like Kayla to be honest we have the same birth chart. Yeah it's just like it's just like

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reverse. Yeah. I think that's why we get along so well because like we just we just know

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each other. Yo real shit. We bond so out like it's certain stuff that like I might be better

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in that I might be better in and then it's certain stuff Kayla might be better in. So I definitely

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get what you're saying about like the chemistry aspect of it because when I did have that chemistry

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with them other girls that shit was chaotic we was not going anywhere with this brand or with this.

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I don't even really want to talk about it because I really can't stand them.

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But we ain't gonna get into it. I was about to say look we're gonna get brought to you now though.

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So that's you know. Yeah we in a much better space so I definitely get what y'all are saying

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about like the whole chemistry thing. Also I know that you performed at Essex.

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Oh yeah. South by Southwest. How was that? I've always wanted to go there. I watched it.

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It was an interesting experience. Now I don't I'm gonna be honest. I don't really know nothing about it.

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Like I just know it's like a it's like a festival. It's like a huge music and media festival.

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Yeah it's like a big media music festival. They have different like workshops for artists

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different events going on that you could perform with. That would actually be dope for y'all to go down there

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because they have like different podcasts and people down there. I was literally just thinking about that.

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Different like panel discussions and things of that nature. So we had four shows lined up when we went down there

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and that was really cool. I mean a lot of dope connections. I just would have like strategized a little bit better

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to get on like I feel like lineups that were more beneficial for me. I feel like two out of the four

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you know were like great shows where I was supposed to be and the other two were great.

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Definitely got a great crowd response and made some great connections but might have been more impactful

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if I was on the right show bill you know for something more of like my sound and things of that nature

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just would have got like a better response. You know they would have been more receptive to it instead of like shocked

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like oh shit this is hard right. I am fucking with it as opposed to like well this is what I'm here to see this type of music

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so I'm like already engaged. But that reaction is probably I would love that reaction like oh shit this is different.

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Because it's like especially like aesthetically they probably like okay this black girl let's see what she got

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and your sound is so much different than what people would probably perceive you as and I'd be like yeah bitch.

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Your sound is very different from like compared to like not trashed it on any other Philly artists

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but I feel like your breath pressure. Yeah a lot of artists in Philly like it's not music of quality

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like I feel like yours is like that and it's a couple other people I feel that way about

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but I really love that you have your own sound. That's what I was going to say. When I first saw you perform

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when we was at the older studio we were performing I was like oh shit oh. For me it was like my inner child was screaming

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because I went to all PWIs unfortunately okay not unfortunately I had a great education let me not stop it

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it's interesting to act like I didn't. But so I grew up listening to Bon Jovi the Beatles,

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Janice Japplin all these people. That's so crazy I'm listening to none of them. Wow.

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Like that's what I'm saying. Your sound is so reminiscent of Black Rockstar. Like Pure Hell,

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Black Death, Death. They're like the original punk rock stars that a lot of these people were influenced by.

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You know like Holland Wolf like think Cadillac Records. Yeah like I listened to all the white shit.

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No offense. The killers I fuck with the killers have you. Yeah like Rolling Stones, KISS, Mick Jagger like that was where I was at.

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That's where I was at. So when I heard you I was like oh yeah this reminds me of me when I was little.

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This like because I was the only one in my family listening to freaking Nirvana and stuff. Okay.

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The spin doctors, the Google Dolls, Van Morrison all those people like that's where I was at like for a lot of my life.

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So when I heard you. Janice Japplin someone else mentioned her to me the other day like you should cover one of her songs or something

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but this is band I listened to Amy and the Sniffers and they said they remind her a lot of Janice Japplin so you should check them out.

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I don't know none of these people. They're killing me. But exactly so like even like Elton John all those people like.

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I don't know not one Elton John song. I'm gonna be so in love. You know Elton John but you may not know that you know.

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Rockin' man. Rockin' man. What's wrong with hug and I'm gonna be. Nope. It's okay. Cam is a never.

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I don't be listening to you. Cam is a never. Good. I'll be honest y'all. I like to call myself a music kind of story but I'm gonna be honest.

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I really don't be listening to a lot of like white artists. I really don't. I should.

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Florence and the Machines is also a band that I really, really enjoy growing up coldplay.

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How would you describe that? Like her like the artist she just named because that's not punk. Is that more like classic?

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No you said Janice Joplin. Elton John. Like classic rock. Like classic rock right?

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And then I got into like alternative rock. I got into alternative rock as I got a little older. Like I said Nirvana, the spin doctors, the Google Dolls.

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Wow. Yeah so hearing you I was like oh man like when I was younger I would have loved to see someone like that looked like you that sounds like you too

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because like that's all I wanted to see and I didn't get to see that growing up.

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Because I would go home and I would hear Motown and I would hear all those other people but I'm like girl I'm a rock star.

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I'm trying to bang my head. Stop.

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Now being like a black girl that's in that genre do you sometimes feel like you're overlooked because you're a black girl?

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No. Honestly I feel like no I don't feel overlooked in this genre.

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I think people fuck with it.

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I would call my genre rock. I would call it more cinematic. You know I feel like it's very genre bending and confiding in a lot of different species.

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But I do have a lot of like punk and like rock influences and like I'm trying to think.

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Slying to Family Stone. Not necessarily rock.

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So I like a lot of music. A lot of my influences are just heavy instrumentation more so than like rock or like a certain genre.

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It's more so just the production has so much.

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Intracasees and things of that nature.

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Like instrumentation. Yeah like everything is like live and felt and it's just like that's what I've realized the music.

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I really gravitate towards and I'm influenced by even like a band I listen to now Infinity Stone.

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They're not necessarily rock. They're more like Neal Soul, R&B.

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They're actually I think they were like Jay-Z's something with Jay-Z. I don't know.

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That's how I came across them. King Capitalist.

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Their music is just so just grand. It's so felt. It feels like an orchestra. I just love stuff like that.

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You like live sounds and stuff like that.

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Yeah whereas like the production could be a song in its own. You know? I love that.

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I could see you doing like a tiny desk.

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Yeah I would love that.

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You like the live sounds and like the instrumentation and stuff like that.

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And your stage presence is?

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Yes.

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Now what else do we want to talk about?

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Wow we really wringing at this point. We usually have stuff.

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We really wasn't wringing it for real. We have like a whole outline but.

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I don't want to talk about that.

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Okay so do you want to segue into like our...

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Maybe we should do the internet whole segment.

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I think we should.

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Because we can still incorporate her sound and her music into that.

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But I just want opinions on this thing.

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Yeah she got a list of things.

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I have opinions? I need... Okay let's do internet hell.

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Okay. And you can chime in too.

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You want your opinions on everything.

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Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.

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Which one do you want to do? You want to...

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No. I want to do this Marcus Houston shit.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You're a nasty bitch. You're just disgusting.

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So basically let's tell everybody what the whole situation is.

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In case people aren't familiar with it.

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So Marcus Houston and his nasty self.

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He was in immature. He was on sister sister as Roger.

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He was in one of his nondayard.

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Yeah he was.

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Yeah his ugly ass.

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He married a 19 year old at what 36? 37?

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Yeah.

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He knew her when she was underage.

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And...

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He said that he didn't talk to her until she was of age.

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Which means that could be any time.

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That could be any time.

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The only difference between 17 and 18 is a day.

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But when you really think about it like...

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11.59 on her birthday?

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I think it's so perverted.

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Because honestly just me being...

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Well I'm about to be 24. Me about to be 24.

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I don't even think I could fuck with a...

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An 18 year old.

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An 18 year old or a 19 year old.

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You can't do nothing for me.

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You can't even buy me a drink.

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Exactly. What do you really have?

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So I'm just very concerned. Especially with him being way older than us.

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He's what 36 or 37?

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Yeah like he was already grown when I was born.

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What was you finding in a 19 year old?

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He was like oh you know we were so compatible.

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Like I saw myself in her.

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Bro what?

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And you know what?

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As a Christian woman...

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I hate Christian people.

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Because y'all let this type of stuff happen.

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I recently stopped going to church because I was trying...

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I was getting led to date somebody that was around his age.

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That's insane.

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And it was like...

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Why would you want me to do that?

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Why would y'all want me to do that?

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Then he said a friend of his had introduced him to the girl.

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So I'm very concerned.

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But they do stuff like that.

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Like ask someone who grew up in church and seen this type of stuff.

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They... Especially if the man is in the church and has a legacy that they need to fulfill.

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They will try to groom you into their right hand.

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And it's like the sickest thing ever.

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Because the first thing he said, we both love God.

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And I'm just like you're crazy.

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You know what they look like.

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You're always witness.

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You're always witness.

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That's crazy.

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Y'all are scary.

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So what are y'all thoughts on this?

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Like what are your thoughts on this?

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Both of y'all.

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You can go first.

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I want to hear a male perspective.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He's... How? 36?

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36 and 19 is a crazy age gap.

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That's a crazy age gap.

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However, I will say...

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My whole life, all the women I've known have dated older men.

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I've been there too.

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You know what I'm saying? Include my own mother.

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So it's like...

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36 and 19 is a crazy age gap.

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But then like I go back to like what you kind of said about like,

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okay well what can somebody do for me?

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And I think that once you get older as a...

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Just a person in general.

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It does become about, okay cool what is this person adding to my life.

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And you know as a man gets older,

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we become more established.

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You know what I'm saying? Our finances become more established.

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Our mental, our spiritual being, all of that stuff.

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So I think that's just something that women are innately attracted to.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I would ask though like what would be like the age limit for somebody?

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Like for like a five year age gap is like the limit or like seven?

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Like what's the limit?

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Well for me, because I'm about to be 24,

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I feel like my limit is like 30.

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Man, I mean I was out here 14 days of my that was like 20.

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Like I look at myself sometimes and I'm like girl,

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you were such a baby.

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I feel like the age gap don't matter when you hit 25.

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Yeah like what's your...

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That's how I feel. I feel like it don't matter once you hit 25.

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But I also don't want no geriatric ass niggas.

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I feel like once you get 30 they be like,

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ooh my back. You know?

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I feel like age very much matters.

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And I don't necessarily go by like...

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Well I do go by gaps.

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I feel like instead of five I go more so by like two.

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Two to four because I look at it more so as like developmental life stages.

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So to be in such different...

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Stages in your life, yeah.

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You get what I'm saying?

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It's like that's where I feel like it leaves so much room for manipulation,

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grooming, miscommunication.

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It's just like certain things like for example,

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my younger brother is 20, you know?

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He's four years younger than me.

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So I like, okay five years.

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I can say it all the way.

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Now I'm doing the math like somebody is doing the math like sometimes

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it's certain things I have to have patience with him with

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and like a little be a little bit more merciful with him

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because it's like certain things you just have not experienced.

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You know?

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And you don't have the life experience to understand necessarily

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what I may be trying to articulate to you.

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And granted some people at 20 do have that life experience.

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But even then it's like certain areas that have lacked in development

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where it's always just going to be some sort of disconnect.

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And I mean granted you do have some cases where you have grown as people

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who are very immature and have not developed certain fundamental skills.

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It gotta be him.

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What?

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But no, I feel like that's just the prime example of someone wanting to take advantage of someone.

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They know who does not have those.

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But religiously that happens all the time.

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They will see you.

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I feel like that's like embedded in Christianity.

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It's so serious.

461
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So it's like you know, where are we?

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Cause where the hell in the Bible did you, did they say that?

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I read it.

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They said that they read the same book.

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00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000
Pedophilia for homosexuality in the Bible.

466
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,000
But even then it's just like what?

467
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,000
They said, they said pedophilia was wrong.

468
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000
That's what I'm trying to say.

469
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000
Like you keep on.

470
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
That's why they swapped this shit out.

471
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000
They shaved it.

472
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000
They shaved it.

473
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000
They shaved it.

474
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000
They shaved it.

475
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000
They shaved it.

476
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000
They shaved it.

477
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,000
They shaved it.

478
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
They shaved it.

479
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000
You know, where they lived in England.

480
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Yeah.

481
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000
And then they moved, and in New York, I had a little kid like why y'all doing that?

482
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,000
And then it's also like why aren't you trying to date women your age?

483
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Like I feel like it's a real-

484
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000
He said why?

485
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Why?

486
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000
He then, he said because they come with baggage and kids.

487
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000
That's what you're saying.

488
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,000
No, I just feel like the woman his age see the lame in him.

489
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
And that's why he don't want to even do that.

490
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000
I feel like, what?

491
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,520
I'm gonna keep it at 1,000, right?

492
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,080
I'm gonna keep it at 1,000.

493
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,280
I'm 25 now.

494
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,760
And I've seen it should change from the time I turned 20

495
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,760
up to now, it should get a little different.

496
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,920
Most women, not most, not most, not most.

497
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,200
But a lot of the women that I run into out and about,

498
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,960
and usually, I don't really go out to the clubs

499
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,080
and stuff like that, but that's probably

500
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,680
where I'll run into the majority of women.

501
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,520
You know what I'm saying?

502
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,680
When I'm working and stuff in the studio,

503
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,360
it's not really a lot of women there, but...

504
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,280
Right.

505
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,400
A lot of women do have kids.

506
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,040
And a lot of women, if you're single by the time you're 25,

507
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
like they done been with niggas.

508
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
They done been with niggas, you know what I'm saying?

509
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,880
So he's right about that.

510
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,000
I'm not saying that that's necessarily a bad thing

511
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
that women having kids is bad, or like them being

512
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,280
in other relationships is bad.

513
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,280
However, if I'm trying to build a life that's gonna be

514
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,200
most pleasant to me, I would rather be

515
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,200
with a woman who is over, or at least past

516
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,160
the emotional damage she might've been put through.

517
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,000
You know what I'm saying?

518
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,040
But I would rather she not have been through much of it.

519
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,880
You know what I'm saying?

520
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,720
Because it's...

521
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,560
I agree.

522
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,160
I feel like two things could be true.

523
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,240
I feel like that is very true.

524
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,400
And then Marcus Houston is still very...

525
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,880
He really is a sick nigga.

526
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,240
That's a sick nigga.

527
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,800
It's his case.

528
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,720
I'm just speaking on that one point.

529
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,560
That's it.

530
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,760
I feel like that is very true.

531
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,360
A lot of us women are jaded.

532
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,560
You know what I'm saying?

533
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Niggas too.

534
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,240
You know, guys.

535
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,520
Men are fucking jaded as fuck.

536
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,360
They are!

537
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,200
They are!

538
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,040
They're like the ass like they had.

539
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,880
They're like hey!

540
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,000
And you know what's crazy?

541
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,640
I feel like with women,

542
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,360
are emotional baggage or, you know,

543
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,920
jadedness makes them from romantic relationships.

544
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,840
I feel like with men, a lot of times it's unresolved,

545
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,560
like familial shit.

546
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,760
They be hating their moms!

547
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440
They be hating their moms!

548
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,960
Y'all hate your moms!

549
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,320
You're gonna be talking about this all the time.

550
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,760
I was talking about the men who hate these moms.

551
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,040
My mother and I are the best!

552
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,880
I said that.

553
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,720
I said that.

554
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,160
They can hate their moms.

555
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Like at least we've dealt with maybe

556
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,480
some of the family stuff we've dealt with,

557
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,880
or we're trying to overcome that kind of stuff.

558
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,200
We can acknowledge it.

559
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,960
Yeah, we might be scarred from relationships and stuff,

560
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,680
but they be having deep rooted family issues.

561
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,520
Oh my gosh.

562
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240
If they could choke slam their mom,

563
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,320
they would.

564
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,960
And I like what you said.

565
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,600
I've made a vow to never date men

566
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,120
that do not have strong relationships

567
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,440
with their mother or father.

568
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320
And since I've made that decision,

569
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,880
I made much success.

570
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,280
Yes, I conceded.

571
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,960
Or at least heal it.

572
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Please heal that.

573
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,360
No, I don't want to know her ass nigga.

574
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,400
Because she's who you're sorry for.

575
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Or they be having unresolved romantic shit too.

576
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,880
But the sick part about it is that y'all be mad

577
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,920
and little Sally Mae first tearing up

578
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,480
your macaroni card and sticking right.

579
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,680
That don't be why they be mad.

580
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,440
They be wanting something else.

581
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,560
They be like, fuck you bitch.

582
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,640
They be wanting something else.

583
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,360
And then it's, I'm like, I don't know.

584
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,720
But it even be playing over into sex though too.

585
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,200
When they be fucking women, like they just be taking

586
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,400
all the internet.

587
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,040
We were talking about, they do be gay though.

588
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,000
They do.

589
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,720
They be slobbing or not.

590
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,560
No shade.

591
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,280
Like I done had a lot of like men like, never mind.

592
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,800
I'll just pick you up.

593
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680
They be having an unresolved trauma with that too.

594
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,120
If you want to get on your knees,

595
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240
if you want to do the bending, just do it.

596
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,440
Jesus.

597
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,400
Just do it.

598
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280
When Jada was like, so you doing the bending.

599
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,480
I was cracking up.

600
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,920
Oh my god.

601
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,120
Oh, oh.

602
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,320
Because I know I would really react like that too.

603
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,280
Not because you gay, but like you could have told me.

604
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,320
I disagree.

605
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,960
I feel like that is something that is like very,

606
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,040
such a touchy subject in the black community.

607
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,720
Especially for black men who are bi.

608
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,640
They can't just tell y'all.

609
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,800
They can't.

610
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,120
But for me, that's true.

611
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,440
Y'all like that love react like, you know.

612
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,520
I feel like a lot of black women are just like.

613
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,440
Homophobic.

614
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:13,960
Yeah.

615
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,200
And it's like embedded in us.

616
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,160
Not even like, you know.

617
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,440
I feel like even people look at me weird when I be like,

618
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,960
I'll date a bisexual man.

619
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,440
Yes.

620
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,960
Like they be like.

621
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,080
Because I be saying that all the time.

622
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,840
They be like what?

623
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,920
And I'm like, I'm going to eat a little ass to one end.

624
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,960
Bisexual men and I feel like when I have dated them,

625
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,200
is when I realized that I still had some homophobic tendencies

626
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,760
in me that I felt like are almost cleared out the way

627
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,520
because I was dating a bi man.

628
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,160
You know when it was still like deep rooted shit

629
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,680
that I had to unlearn.

630
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,440
So I feel like it is very hard for black bi men

631
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,360
to like express themselves with black women in particular.

632
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,920
Yeah, because we mean this shit.

633
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,480
We are.

634
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,880
We already feel like I'm not going to say we already feel.

635
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:04,360
But OK, just from my consensus of Twitter topics

636
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,640
and conversations and things, I'm basing it off of that.

637
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,760
But it's already like a sense of like losing the black men.

638
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,960
Like, you know, so it's like, oh no, now all the good ones

639
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,400
are gay and shit like that.

640
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,480
And it's like just such like.

641
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,840
Just stick a finger up their ass, man.

642
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Just like play with a butt.

643
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,320
But even as joking about it, you know,

644
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,040
it's like it makes it so hard for them to.

645
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,680
We definitely have like a lot of like homophobia.

646
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,920
And yeah.

647
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,880
And me and Keller are not above that.

648
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Like me and Keller, we had an episode

649
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200
we was talking about black women who are like very homophobic.

650
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,560
But like I said, even us, like I'm still

651
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,040
on learning a lot of shit a lot of shit.

652
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Like I be having sometimes I have a lot of friends

653
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,640
in the LGBT community, maybe call me out and shit.

654
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,800
They be like him, that girl, that was a little too much.

655
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,080
I got sorry.

656
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,640
All right.

657
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,440
And I correct myself.

658
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,280
I of course correct myself.

659
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,720
But I feel like that's the difference between me and Keller

660
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,480
and like a lot of these other bitches that just be out here

661
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,840
just being ignorant as fuck.

662
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,320
Like we course correct.

663
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,160
Yeah.

664
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,200
But also going to school with a bunch of white people.

665
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,160
I went I went to Germantown friends.

666
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,400
So I had a lot of gay teachers by teachers, trans teachers,

667
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,120
trans students that I went to school with, gay, all that stuff.

668
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,440
So my viewpoint on all of that is so much different

669
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,760
than everybody else's, I think, especially

670
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,800
in the black community because I like when people are talking

671
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,440
about pronouns and all that other stuff, I grew up like I was

672
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,800
in kindergarten, literally like my pronouns are she and her.

673
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,840
And like little stuff like that, like I always I was always around that.

674
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,720
Do you feel like it almost was like a cold switching of like back

675
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,440
into like being a little bit more homophobic when you were around

676
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,480
your black peers?

677
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:52,440
Oh, I always be like y'all drawing.

678
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Yeah.

679
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,520
But it was always like, oh, like you're just taking things too seriously.

680
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,920
But I'm like, even down to especially with transphobia,

681
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,640
I have trans family members and like they're older, like actually

682
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,800
like older, older and.

683
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,480
I said bless her.

684
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,320
Yeah.

685
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,800
Like but the my cousins that didn't go to school with people that were like them

686
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,080
and didn't have the same lived experiences.

687
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,640
I remember like we went down and and and she's from Georgia.

688
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,600
So she already had a lot of stuff going on.

689
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,960
Like, you know, like.

690
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,280
She just had a really rough life.

691
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,480
But I remember going down there with my cousins and like one of my

692
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,720
cousins didn't even want to touch her.

693
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,520
Like she was like so disgusted and it made me so sad.

694
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Like I cried because I was like, what's wrong?

695
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,320
And she's like, no, no, like, like, look, look.

696
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,560
And I'm like, damn.

697
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,360
But I remember feeling like that.

698
00:37:54,360 --> 00:38:00,000
But also my thing was me like kind of muting anything because I didn't want

699
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,600
people to be like, so what does that mean for you?

700
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,360
Right.

701
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,360
And I'm like.

702
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,800
Now I got a question for you.

703
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,280
I feel like Black men like I feel like Black men and Black women period.

704
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,640
I just we got a lot of like homophobia to just like overcome whatever.

705
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,320
But do you feel like as a Black man, like are you working on course

706
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,320
correcting it? Like has that I don't know.

707
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,320
What are your thoughts on it?

708
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,320
Like.

709
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,200
For me, I mean.

710
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,880
The communities I've been raised in are pretty homophobic, I will say.

711
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,800
Me myself, though, like same as Kayla, like I went to predominantly

712
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,200
white schools and I was younger. So I'm not like new to trans people,

713
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,000
homosexual people or anything like that.

714
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,120
And I have some really good clients who are like transgendered and, you know,

715
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,720
part of the LGBT community.

716
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:57,560
So for me, I think I've kind of learned over time to be

717
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,920
not not accepting of it, but more so like.

718
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,160
I guess what's the word like?

719
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,800
Like I'm kind of just used to like the the different like.

720
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,800
Walks of life.

721
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Yeah, you know what I mean?

722
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,480
Like how they how they joke with each other.

723
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Because, you know, even when you go to like you were all black here.

724
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,680
So like even when you go around white people, like they have different jokes.

725
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Yes, they have different like all that type of stuff.

726
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,880
So I kind of have learned like, you know, what the differences are in our

727
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,680
and our social patterns and stuff like that.

728
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,880
Learn to be more inclusive, basically.

729
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,880
Yeah. Yeah.

730
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,880
It's a good word.

731
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,880
All right.

732
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,440
Sometimes it is hard to code switch out of certain things, though.

733
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,440
It is.

734
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,280
Especially when the majority of the time you are around the opposite of like

735
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,080
what your home life or what your like interpersonal community is.

736
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Mm hmm.

737
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,520
I can say like to answer your question with the code switching thing.

738
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,440
It was it was really difficult because I really didn't get the joke.

739
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,280
Sometimes I'd be like, why are y'all being so mean?

740
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,280
Yeah, yeah.

741
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Yeah, I definitely got to understand that I went to friends to like up until

742
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,280
fifth grade downtown.

743
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,280
So I definitely did not want to put in white words.

744
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,280
I do understand what you mean by that.

745
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,000
But I also did have experience going to Henry and then I went to

746
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,480
Khyber State in Baltimore, you know, so I kind of just having those two walks of

747
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,680
life and going to school downtown but living in the hood, you know, shit like that.

748
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,680
So, yeah.

749
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,240
How did you explain that to the white kids?

750
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,680
Because I had a hard time.

751
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,920
My grandparents on my dad's side actually look white.

752
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,920
Oh, OK.

753
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,920
Rich.

754
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,280
So yeah, when I would have birthday parties, I would go over to my rich

755
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,840
grandparents' house and have a full party in the backyard.

756
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,840
I had that.

757
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,840
I was like, I'm a nether.

758
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,840
So this is what I got.

759
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Let's go on to another topic.

760
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,840
I want to talk about push and see wife that situation.

761
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,840
So basically, did you see it on Twitter?

762
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,840
All right.

763
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,840
Oh, I did.

764
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,840
I did.

765
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,840
Somebody had asked her, like, did she ever feel away?

766
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,840
Like, how did she feel just being like a rapper's wife or whatever?

767
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,840
And she was basically saying like, at first she was uncomfortable because she

768
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,840
didn't have like the rapper baby mom look like she didn't have like a whole bunch

769
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,840
of makeup, like a fat ass.

770
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,840
She didn't have like the body.

771
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,840
But she said that she's now like comfortable with herself.

772
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,840
So she feels like she's cooler.

773
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,840
Now, a lot of people said, a lot of women said that that made her a pick me.

774
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,840
Now I have thoughts about that.

775
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,840
I do feel like her wording was off because she said something like, oh,

776
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,840
kicked up faces, body con dresses and fake titties or something like that.

777
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,840
It was kind of demeaning.

778
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,840
It was shitty.

779
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,840
So the wording, yeah.

780
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,840
I mean, it was shitty.

781
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,840
So I get-

782
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,840
Fuck you hoes.

783
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,840
That's how she feels.

784
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,840
Yeah.

785
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,840
The wording was definitely off.

786
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,840
I mean, she was like, I don't know.

787
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,840
Like she has to speak like that.

788
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,840
Cause one thing about these BBL bitches, you bitches suck.

789
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,840
No, they don't.

790
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,840
And if a bitch want to be natural and throw shade or if a BBL bitch with a throw

791
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,840
shade at the natural hoes, then I love shade.

792
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,840
I'm here for the shades.

793
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,840
Right.

794
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,840
For me, it's just like, I know, like, you know how industry bitches be like,

795
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,840
they the side eyes be crazy.

796
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,840
And it's like, why are you upset with this girl?

797
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,840
Cause she didn't have to get a 360 lipo to get the-

798
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:00,840
Bitch, cause I did.

799
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,840
Like, yeah, like, that's how they be feeling.

800
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,840
They be like, what the fuck did that, how the fuck did this stupid bitch that bitch

801
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,840
get no work to get this thing in?

802
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,840
People was calling her a pick me and I get both sides.

803
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,840
Cause some people were saying, well, I don't think she was being a pick me.

804
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,840
I think she was being a raw with like how she felt.

805
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,840
Cause that's a very, that's a very natural feeling.

806
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,840
Like it is.

807
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,840
Me and Kayla was just talking about that, like just beauty standards in the industry

808
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,840
period.

809
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,840
And we be thinking like, well, when we get big, when our podcast blow up.

810
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,840
Would y'all get BBLs?

811
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,840
Like what?

812
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,840
I don't need one respectfully.

813
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,840
I feel like I already have a nice shape.

814
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,840
So I probably get my titties done.

815
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,840
That's it.

816
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,840
So I probably get my titties done.

817
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,840
But me and Kayla, we've always talked about like when we get big, like, are we going

818
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,840
to want to assimilate our look?

819
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Because we do, I do see a lot in the music industry or disability industry period that

820
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,840
when you do assimilate your look, you do get like a certain kind of success.

821
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,840
You do get a certain kind of crossover.

822
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,840
So I don't feel like it was nothing wrong with what she said.

823
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,840
That's just a very like raw feeling.

824
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,840
Like I'd be feeling like I want to do it, but then I'm like, my mom's going to drag me.

825
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,840
I don't want to get dragged.

826
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,840
If I had to afford to get work done, I would.

827
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,840
And I don't feel like that's rooted in like not a positive body image because I love my

828
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,840
body and I love my face.

829
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,840
But more so like you never know what you would do if you could afford until you could like

830
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,840
afford to do it.

831
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,840
That's facts.

832
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Because I'd be saying it.

833
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,840
And just like certain skincare like regimen to routine.

834
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:25,840
It's just certain like things that I've seen not necessarily in the music industry, but

835
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,840
my mom is like super into cosmetology and that type of stuff.

836
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,840
So just different procedures and things she's shown me.

837
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,840
And I don't know, like it's like one like these like tear throw injections.

838
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,840
They could take out like the fat pad under your eyes.

839
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,840
There won't be like as many like dark circles and bags.

840
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,840
That does wonders.

841
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,840
And it's just certain shit.

842
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,840
They like even skincare people have said they like, bro, ain't no.

843
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,840
Face full wash or regimen or no oil you put on your face.

844
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Go fix that shit.

845
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,840
Like some shit.

846
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,840
You just got to go under like, you know, and not necessarily like a big procedure or anything

847
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,840
of that nature.

848
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,340
But I've also had like plastic surgery already.

849
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:07,840
So that's kind of why I'm like not against like BBOs and like different surgeries and

850
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,840
shit.

851
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,840
Because it's just like, you know, I'm not against it.

852
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,840
Who plays surgery?

853
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,840
My eye.

854
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,840
Yeah.

855
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,840
I had a broke my eye.

856
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,840
And like 2016 and I literally had to get plastic surgery.

857
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,840
So my eye didn't like droop in the back of my eye.

858
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,840
Wow.

859
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,840
That's why I got the face tattoo on the inside of my face.

860
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,840
Cause people would like look at my eye cause it was lazy.

861
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:28,840
Okay, okay, okay.

862
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,840
I mean, everyone has gotten work done.

863
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,840
I have braces.

864
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,840
Me too.

865
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,840
Like, you know, like, but still like I have braces.

866
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,840
I like, there's a lot of things that we do in order to make sure that we are more appealing.

867
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,840
And I feel like people like there's so much, like there's so many polarizing opinions.

868
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,840
Like, you don't love yourself if you get a BBO or you do love yourself cause you didn't.

869
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,400
And it's just kind of like some people don't get work done as a challenge to themselves

870
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,920
to really accept themselves for who they are.

871
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,440
And that's how I feel about it.

872
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,680
Like I, since I was like little, I was like, I'ma get my boobs done because that is just

873
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,840
going to make me perfect.

874
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,840
And it would, you bitches wouldn't stand a mother fucking shit.

875
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,840
I swear, I swear, yo.

876
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,840
You bitches wouldn't.

877
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,840
I need, I want to get my boobs done.

878
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,840
But fuck it.

879
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,840
I'm just not going to do it.

880
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,840
Now have you ever felt like, like have you ever been in rooms with like girls that look

881
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,840
different from you and like felt insecure about your look in particular?

882
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,840
I'm like a little gay.

883
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,840
So I'll be like, damn.

884
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,840
I'll be like, can I touch a private part?

885
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:45,840
So yeah, I'm like, I'm heavy on like, I really admire shit that I cannot do or that it's

886
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,840
not like already me.

887
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,840
I'm like big on like admiring.

888
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,840
So like, thick ass women.

889
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,840
I love them cause it's like girl, like I just, I don't know.

890
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,840
And like my mom is super thick.

891
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,840
Like a bunch of women in my family are like super thick, volumptuous.

892
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,840
Like I live for it.

893
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,840
That's why I'm not scared either because my mom's body came after the 20s and let me

894
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,840
tell you that bitch.

895
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,840
I think I got my dad jeans.

896
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,840
Me too.

897
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,840
Me too.

898
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,840
Cause like I'm super slim.

899
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,840
I'm super slim and all the other women in my family are like super thick.

900
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,840
Yeah.

901
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,840
I'm just like, yeah.

902
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,840
Your sister's body type is closer to mine.

903
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,840
Yeah.

904
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,840
I'm just like, well, what the fuck happened to me?

905
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,840
Like what the hell?

906
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,840
Yeah.

907
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,840
But I just like admire that type of stuff.

908
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,840
So like all the women who do like their own hair and the makeup artists, the dancers,

909
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,840
like I love it.

910
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,840
I admire it.

911
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,840
You know, that's cause you're not a hating ass bitch.

912
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,840
Yeah.

913
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,840
Some people, some of y'all are really haters.

914
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,840
Some of y'all are really haters.

915
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,840
I feel like people are haters because they don't acknowledge emotion, emotions as things

916
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,840
that like come and go.

917
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,840
And when you don't acknowledge it, that's when it kind of like fosters and then you

918
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,840
become like this like jealous or envious or haterish person because those are all natural

919
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,840
emotions.

920
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,840
Yeah.

921
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,840
At the end of the day.

922
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,840
So I would say I haven't been jealous or insecure more so about like image or bodies or things

923
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,840
of that nature.

924
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,840
But I will say in my early 20s, I would be jealous of my friend's relationship with their

925
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,840
families.

926
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,840
Really?

927
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,840
You know, like some of my peers has stronger relationships with their moms and that would

928
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,840
make me envious.

929
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,840
I can't get to it.

930
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,840
I wish I could go fucking drinks with my mom.

931
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,840
No, real sure.

932
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,840
I would be jealous.

933
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,340
Really, I'll be jealous in the sense that like I would see certain girls, like they'd

934
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:32,840
be able to have certain conversations with their mom about like sex and stuff like that

935
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,840
and boys.

936
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,840
And I could never do that with my mom.

937
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,840
And I'll be super jealous about that.

938
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,840
Like I could never have like an open conversation with my mom about sex at all.

939
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,840
So I'll be jealous of that kind of stuff.

940
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,840
So I definitely feel you.

941
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,840
Yeah.

942
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,240
And I feel like once I acknowledged it, it's like for what it was like, okay, I'm jealous

943
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:49,840
of my friend's relationship with her mom.

944
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,840
Yeah.

945
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,840
And that's okay.

946
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,840
I can let that feel that.

947
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,840
And let it go.

948
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,840
And then it doesn't become me.

949
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,840
I had like a therapy session with my, with my therapist and she was telling me like jealousy

950
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:00,840
is a very normal feeling.

951
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,840
What makes it like bad is when you let it turn you into a hater.

952
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,840
Yeah.

953
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,840
Like jealousy is very normal.

954
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,840
It's normal.

955
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,840
Like if your friends have something that you have or that you want, well, not that you

956
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,340
have something that you that you want, you want to be jealous a little bit, but that

957
00:48:13,340 --> 00:48:15,840
doesn't make you don't have to let it turn you into a hater.

958
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,840
So jealousy is a normal feeling.

959
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,840
I wish more people would like understand that.

960
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,840
Like just acknowledge it.

961
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,840
Yeah.

962
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,840
And as long as you can acknowledge it, like that's good to do stuff with.

963
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,040
Did that, did that jealousy like allow you to create space for like trying to make a better

964
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,340
relationship with your parents as like as you got older or were you just like, damn,

965
00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:35,340
this is what it is.

966
00:48:35,340 --> 00:48:36,840
Don't really fuck with them like that either.

967
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,840
So let me just.

968
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,840
So it's crazy.

969
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,340
I have like a good relationship with both my mom and my dad.

970
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:46,840
It's just not as like.

971
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:53,840
Mushi, gushy with my mom as I would like it.

972
00:48:53,840 --> 00:49:02,640
So what I learned was to stop being so fucking entitled, you know, and that my mom is who

973
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,560
she is and she's not that type of woman and I'm not her fucking cup of tea that I can't

974
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,840
fucking first that relationship.

975
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,840
Yeah.

976
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,960
Like I said, not that we don't have a good relationship, but like for example, my mom

977
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:20,880
has his one friend and listening to my mom more as a individual and not as my mom also

978
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,640
helped me like kind of deal with this more.

979
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,840
But she has his one friend.

980
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,840
Her and her daughter are super close.

981
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,840
They do everything together.

982
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,240
And it pisses my mom off every time my mom calls her.

983
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:33,760
She's like, oh, oh, me and my daughter, we about to go do this thing.

984
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,760
You know what I mean?

985
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,760
My daughter to come meet you and I'm gonna be in my daughter.

986
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,760
We about to get drinks and we going to the movies.

987
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,680
That's the type of shit I wish I could do with my mom, but she's not that type of person.

988
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,680
So that's okay.

989
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,680
It is.

990
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,280
And instead of me having this like void in my heart, my mom doesn't laugh at me.

991
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,400
It's like, no, except people for who they are.

992
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,280
And kind of like know your person now.

993
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,280
Yeah.

994
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,280
Yeah.

995
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,280
Like deal with relationships accordingly.

996
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,760
So it's like the things that I can do with my mom that she enjoys doing with me.

997
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,760
My mom is a meanie.

998
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:06,440
I was watching a Bobby Hemet lecture the other day and he said, all your problems disappear

999
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,920
when you stop judging others.

1000
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,880
So pretty much like what you were saying, like, it's like, okay, cool, your relationship

1001
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,640
with your mom doesn't have to look like that.

1002
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Right.

1003
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,640
Cause you and your mom are two completely different people.

1004
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,640
Different people.

1005
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,440
Which y'all have something, y'all still have something special.

1006
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Yeah.

1007
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Like I said, my mom's mean, but we have, my therapist says that we're in mesh, but both

1008
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,320
me and my mom told that lady to go to hell.

1009
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,160
And that's how we do it.

1010
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,160
I'm crying.

1011
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,240
We are like thickest thieves.

1012
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:41,280
She's so mean to me, but for some reason we just can never like not be right in each

1013
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,280
other's space.

1014
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,320
Like we spend all the time.

1015
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,120
Let's talk about this.

1016
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,120
King Von doc.

1017
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Did you watch it?

1018
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,120
No.

1019
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,120
Did you watch it?

1020
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,120
I was sorry.

1021
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,120
I don't push it like that.

1022
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:01,800
I'm sorry, but like, I know he was really a psychopath.

1023
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:02,800
He was fine as fuck.

1024
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,800
He converted his coochie.

1025
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,800
He was not even a cute girl.

1026
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,760
Maybe I just like niggas with locks.

1027
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,520
Maybe that's just my thing, but basically you think so.

1028
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,240
He was really demonic, but I really fuck with the realness of it all.

1029
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,840
And then here go camp.

1030
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,360
You know, he's a Leo.

1031
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,360
I know that.

1032
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:32,280
I know that we have a tendency to really do things that are very unhinged.

1033
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,280
Yeah.

1034
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,040
But you got to fuck with it because it's real.

1035
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,320
But I want to give everybody like just watching like a backstory on it.

1036
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,000
So basically in this documentary, the guy is like breaking down all the people that King

1037
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Von has like murdered and he has over like, I think it was over 11.

1038
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,440
He has over 11 bodies that we know that we know that we know of.

1039
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,800
So he broke them all down and like he had like tweets that King Von would like posts.

1040
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:05,200
He had like news articles, YouTube clips, all kinds of stuff like this nigga was insane.

1041
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,200
He would kill somebody.

1042
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,560
And be like, when's the funeral?

1043
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,060
And it's not funny.

1044
00:52:10,060 --> 00:52:14,520
Like the murders themselves are not funny, but what's funny is like this nigga is psychotic.

1045
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,520
He is.

1046
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,800
Like he's a psychopath.

1047
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,520
And I'm just like, wow, like that's crazy.

1048
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,720
So like kill somebody and then two minutes later just be like LOL.

1049
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,240
Like he would be really laughing like.

1050
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,400
He'd really be laughing.

1051
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,400
And he was so like.

1052
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Then he had this range.

1053
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,240
He had this one tweet when he was like, yeah, I'm about to do a drop by.

1054
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,800
I'm like, bro, like what is wrong with this man?

1055
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,800
And the cops never did nothing for a longest time.

1056
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,240
What was the most arranged about him is that when he started getting famous actually, like

1057
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:47,000
he never really realized that like the shit he was saying was really thrown off.

1058
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Yeah.

1059
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,200
Oh, who just pause it and edit this out?

1060
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,200
It's fine.

1061
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:02,200
Gentlemen.

1062
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,200
It's cool.

1063
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,280
Nothing editing can do.

1064
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,280
Thank you.

1065
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,000
But um, yeah, that nigga was insane.

1066
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,000
Yeah.

1067
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,800
And like he would be on the breakfast club about to sit there and say like, yeah, I'll

1068
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,800
be the case.

1069
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,400
But if I be like, but I did it.

1070
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,800
Dirk would be like, whoa, but he never did it.

1071
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,800
Yeah.

1072
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,240
We know he was very crazy.

1073
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,800
But we all feel like just being in like the music industry.

1074
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,800
It didn't turn me on.

1075
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,800
It didn't turn me on.

1076
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,800
I just think King Bomb was fine.

1077
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,800
That's it.

1078
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,800
It didn't turn me on though.

1079
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,800
But I just thought that man was fine.

1080
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,800
That wouldn't turn you off.

1081
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,800
That wouldn't turn you off.

1082
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,800
How he was.

1083
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,800
Man.

1084
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,800
Yeah, it would.

1085
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,160
I just think, no, I just think he's an attractive man.

1086
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,120
Like nothing that he did turn me on like at all.

1087
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,200
Like I didn't get horny at the fact that like he.

1088
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,200
You said he converted his pussy.

1089
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,200
He could.

1090
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,200
She's trying to censor it now.

1091
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,200
She's trying to, she's like, no way.

1092
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,360
But I'm saying I didn't, I wouldn't get off of him like just, just knowing that like

1093
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,360
he killed people.

1094
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,360
That's not what gives me off.

1095
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,360
But like he could definitely, we could, we could f**k.

1096
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,360
I don't know.

1097
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,360
I don't know.

1098
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,360
I don't know.

1099
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,360
I don't know man.

1100
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,360
Like after hearing all that, I would be his friend.

1101
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,360
I would.

1102
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,360
Agent down.

1103
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,360
I don't know how she, I would be his friend, but we wouldn't be close.

1104
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,360
Like, right.

1105
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,360
Keep that s**t over there.

1106
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,360
But you know, I'm big on energy.

1107
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,360
So like I've actually like, yeah, I think he's demonic.

1108
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:32,360
You got to steer clear of certain types of people, especially people who are that willing

1109
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,360
to opt out that type of information about themselves.

1110
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,360
It's almost like a cry for help.

1111
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,360
I don't think he even like, I said, I was saying like, you gotta really not care about

1112
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,360
your life.

1113
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,360
Like, yeah, but his, but his dad was like pretty much like a kingpin.

1114
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,360
Like his dad was like one of the starters of like, he was like a lost soul.

1115
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:58,360
Like his dad was in that and when they killed his dad, I think that's when things like,

1116
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,360
when you kill someone, when you take a life away from somebody or if you lose someone

1117
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,360
that's really close to you, cause even I was in a situation where like when my grandmother

1118
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:13,360
passed, I was like, is there anything else to live for?

1119
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,360
Right.

1120
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,360
I feel that.

1121
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,360
So like if you don't get to heal that, especially if you from the hood, especially if you from

1122
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,360
the hood, I go, especially if you are in like in gang life anyway, cause your own parents

1123
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,360
was there and doing all that other stuff.

1124
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Like his neighborhood, vengeance, vengeance was something that was very important to him.

1125
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,360
It was like, I'm going to carry out my dad's legacy and y'all going to feel every single

1126
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,360
ounce of his presence through it.

1127
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,360
And it don't make it right, but it's, it's just like, you kind of get an understanding.

1128
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,360
The motivation behind it.

1129
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,360
I get it.

1130
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,360
Yeah.

1131
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,360
Somebody murdered your mom.

1132
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,360
My mom not getting smooth.

1133
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,360
Yeah.

1134
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,360
So I can't relate.

1135
00:55:52,360 --> 00:56:00,360
Yeah, but like, but if she was, and then he was a lost cause, a lost soul, your pop already

1136
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,360
set you up for failure with his life.

1137
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,360
Yeah.

1138
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Like, first of all, like you wouldn't want to get out the game.

1139
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:11,360
I wanted to ask y'all, just y'all being in like the music industry, do y'all feel like

1140
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:17,360
silent rap music plays a part in the crime that we see in our communities?

1141
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,360
Yeah.

1142
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,360
Absolutely.

1143
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:20,360
Okay.

1144
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,360
Cause I have a different opinion, but I want to hear y'all thoughts.

1145
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,360
I want, you can go first though, cause you, you've been a little quiet.

1146
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,360
I mean,

1147
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,360
Respectfully, we haven't really been talking to him either.

1148
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,360
It's true.

1149
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,360
So that's, that's, you know, go ahead.

1150
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:36,360
This is superstar, but no, um, King Vaughn specifically is a, is a, is a funny situation,

1151
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,360
I think, because he got out of jail and went straight to stardom.

1152
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,360
And I don't think that was like, uh, I don't think that was a coincidence.

1153
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:51,360
Um, I'm a huge believer that the, like, uh, things are placed in front of us for a reason.

1154
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,360
Even, even y'all saying that his father was, was killed early on in his life, there was

1155
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,360
a reason for that.

1156
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,360
And the reason, you know, he turned out that way is because he didn't have a strong leader

1157
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,360
in his life to tell him, cause even if his dad was a kingpin, his dad probably wasn't

1158
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,360
just out here murdering people, just, uh,

1159
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,360
Yeah.

1160
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,360
Senselessly.

1161
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,360
You know what I'm saying?

1162
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,360
And I think if he would have had a father in his life, he would have been less susceptible

1163
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,360
to the poison that is placed in our communities.

1164
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,360
You know what I'm saying?

1165
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,360
So by him getting out of jail and little dirt pushing him to the, and it's so funny because

1166
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,360
even you look at little dirt, uh, career trajectory, he pushes a lot of things in his music that

1167
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,360
I feel is just like very questionable.

1168
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,360
You know what I mean?

1169
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,360
But also it looked like he don't even do hat.

1170
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,360
I would say that.

1171
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,360
You know, a lot of these rappers are just rappers.

1172
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,360
They're entertainers.

1173
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,360
They're not, they're not really, but King Vaughn is a different story.

1174
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,360
You know what I'm saying?

1175
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,360
The fact that, you know, they took him out.

1176
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,360
He had his rip.

1177
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,360
Yeah.

1178
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,360
And that's the saddest part about it.

1179
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,360
Yeah.

1180
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,360
Like, you know, and I think that him, him dying and the way that he did it, it was like, it

1181
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,360
was nothing.

1182
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,360
It was a text right off to them because they look at it like, okay, cool.

1183
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,360
This is what you were here to do.

1184
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,360
You were here to push an agenda, to push this senseless murdering.

1185
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Oh, kill somebody.

1186
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,360
LOL.

1187
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Oh, we gonna spin on your block.

1188
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Oh, that's funny.

1189
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,360
So you think that the violent drill music makes somebody wants to like pick up a gun and

1190
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,360
kill other people?

1191
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,360
No.

1192
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,360
No, I don't think that's what, what does it make you feel like?

1193
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,360
That's what I'm asking.

1194
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,360
Well, that's all you know.

1195
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Um, I don't necessarily feel like the music is what's causing the crime in our communities.

1196
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,360
I really don't.

1197
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,360
Well, no, I said, what does it make you feel like?

1198
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Oh, what does it make me feel like when I hear it?

1199
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,360
When you listen to drill music.

1200
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,360
Honestly, for me, I don't really listen to it like that.

1201
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,360
I really don't listen to it like that.

1202
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,360
But when I have heard it, it just, I don't know, it don't really do nothing for me.

1203
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,360
It don't make me like, it don't push me the one thing.

1204
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,360
It makes me grossly uncomfortable.

1205
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,360
I would say as someone who grew up listening to that shit.

1206
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,360
It is really tight.

1207
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,360
That's what I was saying.

1208
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,360
As someone who grew up listening to it, that was the type of shit that shit does program

1209
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,360
you to do violent shit, bro.

1210
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,360
Like no bullshit.

1211
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,360
We would listen to that shit prior to doing some violent shit.

1212
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360
That's the whole point of putting yourself in that mood.

1213
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,360
You're not about listening to Saadeh.

1214
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,360
You're about to go do a drill.

1215
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,360
But you feel real.

1216
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,360
It's like, you don't listen to it.

1217
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,360
How can you really speak and say that it doesn't affect the young men or young women being more

1218
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,360
vital?

1219
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,360
I more so feel like it has to do with like.

1220
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,360
But no, I said, if you don't listen to it though.

1221
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,360
But no, I don't listen to it religiously.

1222
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,360
That's what I'm saying.

1223
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,360
I've heard the music though.

1224
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,360
I've heard the music and like passing.

1225
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,360
I've heard like my siblings listen to it and stuff like that.

1226
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,360
I'm saying I'm not like a diehard fan.

1227
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,360
Like I'm not right.

1228
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,360
So I'm saying like kind of like speaking to like the like statistic of it.

1229
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,360
You get what I'm saying?

1230
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Like how can you say it doesn't like that's a good point effects on my if you can't.

1231
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,360
That's a good point.

1232
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,360
Yourself.

1233
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,360
I mean, but I'm saying like I've listened to it enough where like I know like I'm not

1234
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,360
gonna say I know because you don't know anything.

1235
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,360
Honestly, we don't know anything.

1236
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,360
It's Jung Boo's waking up listening to NBA Young with 9 in the morning.

1237
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,360
Yeah, that's what they're saying.

1238
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,360
I'm not saying this is a joke.

1239
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,360
Yeah, and they be eating hot Cheetos and drinking a soda too.

1240
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,360
Like they just be unhinged as shit.

1241
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,360
Like if you woke up and listen to some other shit, I promise you your mood will be changed.

1242
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:53,360
No, I'm not saying that it don't somewhat have like an impact or like it don't influence

1243
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,360
kids like kids or just like adults in a way.

1244
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:57,360
I'm not saying that.

1245
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,360
I'm not saying that.

1246
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,360
I'm saying that I think it's a larger issue.

1247
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,360
I think the music is just the ice and I think it does have an influence.

1248
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,360
I'm not saying that it doesn't necessarily.

1249
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,360
So I take it back while I say I'm not saying that it doesn't have an influence, but I think

1250
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,360
it's very small compared to if you look at things like systemically or if you look at

1251
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,360
like lack of policing in certain neighborhoods or just like intra community crime.

1252
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,360
Like I feel like it's a larger scale than what we're looking at.

1253
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,360
I don't.

1254
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,360
I think music is very small, like on that scale.

1255
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,360
That's a great.

1256
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:30,360
I feel like media is a big part right now, especially since everyone has access to it.

1257
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,360
Like because I will honestly say like I'm speaking from my own life experience.

1258
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,360
It's certain drugs.

1259
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,360
I never would have been.

1260
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,360
What's the word I'm looking for?

1261
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:46,360
Like exposed to or not even exposed, but certain shit wouldn't have been glorified to me.

1262
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,360
If I was listening to if I was listening, like for example, when I was growing up, I wasn't

1263
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,360
allowed to watch Love and Hip Hop or Best Go Wives or none of that shit.

1264
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,360
Me neither.

1265
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,360
I was like 21.

1266
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,360
You feel me?

1267
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:02,360
So it's like the music I was listening to is how I got introduced into certain drugs

1268
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,360
and certain violent activities at a very young age.

1269
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,360
And I watched the effect that it had on me at 14, 15, 16.

1270
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,360
And I see the effect that it has on the younger generations at 10, 11, 12.

1271
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:13,360
Yeah.

1272
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,360
Things about me on here.

1273
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,360
So like your cousin listens to little dirt, right?

1274
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,360
Like he shouldn't be your fucking fifth grade.

1275
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,360
And they know every word.

1276
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,360
I don't even be understanding what happened to people be saying.

1277
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:31,360
So I feel like it's a very big, it's a bigger influence than what we may notice.

1278
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,360
So do you feel like that music should be like big?

1279
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Because I will not to go away, but I wasn't listening to just drill.

1280
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,360
I was also listening to the weekend and they said rock it.

1281
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,360
You get what I'm saying?

1282
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,360
So like drug music as well as drill.

1283
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:49,360
Like the media plays a big role in our influences and to our lives.

1284
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,360
So I will not just say just drill music.

1285
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,360
Just like media as a whole.

1286
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,360
Yeah.

1287
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,360
I see that.

1288
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,360
I see that.

1289
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,360
So do you think that music should be like band though?

1290
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,360
Like just like the violin music?

1291
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,360
No.

1292
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,360
No.

1293
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,360
It's all a form of expression at the end of the day.

1294
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,360
It's like, for example, Cardi B don't let her kids listen to her music.

1295
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,360
It's all about censoring, censorship more so within the household.

1296
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,360
I mean,

1297
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,360
But these parents don't be parenting because they don't have time to.

1298
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,360
And that's literally what I was about to say.

1299
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,360
I feel like it starts more so in the household because I went to school.

1300
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,360
I went to school.

1301
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,360
I went to school with kids like I'm talking about college.

1302
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:37,360
I went to school with black kids who like were from way better neighborhoods than me came from families that might have been more closely knit and they listen to that type of music like, but they understood because they had strong households and strong family.

1303
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,360
They understood that it was entertainment.

1304
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Right.

1305
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,360
It didn't make them want to actually get up and kill somebody.

1306
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,360
But if you're a kid in North Philly, you ain't got no pop in the crib.

1307
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,360
You got five brothers and sisters.

1308
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:50,360
Your mom barely there because she working two jobs and you eat in Cheetos and fucking hot sauce just.

1309
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,360
Yeah.

1310
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,360
For dinner.

1311
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,360
Yeah, it might make you start to think, okay, this is how I should be living life because I don't have no other example.

1312
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,360
How to live it.

1313
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,360
Exactly.

1314
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,360
So like it starts in the home, honestly.

1315
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:05,360
And absentee parenting isn't just like someone that's physically not like theirs.

1316
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,360
Not like a deadbeat dad or a deadbeat mom that's doing their own thing.

1317
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:15,360
Like, like we said, one of the other episodes, we could tell some of y'all didn't have no big mama.

1318
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,360
Like my mom is a single mom.

1319
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,360
Right.

1320
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,360
But she also has a college education.

1321
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:25,360
She has graduate degrees and my grandmother was there to help.

1322
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,360
So I was doing my homework with my grandmother.

1323
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,360
I was home.

1324
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,360
I went to like the best schools and everything.

1325
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:44,360
So even like me listening to that type of stuff, it was like, oh yeah, this is like, this is just like shit talk to be honest because especially if it was like one of those like my mom wasn't around my dad.

1326
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,360
I was like, well, this is their experience, but this is not my experience.

1327
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:54,360
So I could take it for the art that it is, but I'm not going to be out here like, pew pew.

1328
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:06,360
My experiences with music and like, like I said, just the influence that media has had on my earlier on life is one of my biggest influences in the music that I make today.

1329
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,360
One of the reasons why I try not to like, I actually don't write necessarily cursing.

1330
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:12,360
I don't give a fuck if you hate me.

1331
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,360
It's probably the only curse word I've said.

1332
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,360
Only curse word.

1333
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,360
In any of the music I've created.

1334
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:28,360
And I don't like to necessarily create a, I don't know, I like to put the energy I want in the world in my music more so you get what I'm saying.

1335
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:41,360
So it can be an expression of something angry or sad or these different emotions, but it doesn't have to evoke this like feeling of, okay, I want to do this to this service or how.

1336
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,360
I want to do this to this service or harm myself now.

1337
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,360
You get what I'm saying.

1338
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,360
And I feel like that was the undertone of a lot.

1339
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,360
It's the undertone of a lot of music.

1340
01:04:50,360 --> 01:05:06,360
Even if it's not a harm myself in such a physical way, kind of like going back to like we were talking about summer Walker, a harm myself in a desperate, you get what I'm saying and putting myself in such a vulnerable or a hopeless situation that I want this person to want.

1341
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,360
You get what I'm saying.

1342
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:14,360
I don't know, I just feel like the undertone and a lot of music is so like self detrimental.

1343
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,360
And that's not what I like to preach at all.

1344
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:26,360
And that's kind of going back to like the religious him of like lift my spirit like just like shit that's gonna make us feel something.

1345
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:40,360
I was actually talking about that with somebody about CISA and why especially black women, a lot of black women weren't fucking with SOS because there was a lot of self deprecation happening in the music.

1346
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:52,360
And I was saying like culturally, we're viewed at as strong and we can't like really voice the way that like we can't voice those things the way that she was getting it off.

1347
01:05:52,360 --> 01:06:06,360
So of course we're like, we can't compute it that way. Whereas like me growing up with the other peoples self deprecation and teenage angst was a thing.

1348
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:19,360
Like, you know, like they were very like it was like, it was like a huge thing myself harm when I was growing up and all these things and I was like, I couldn't get jiggy with it personally.

1349
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:33,360
But I could see why other women could relate so much to CISA, especially in like the songs like special notice me and like all those other things, even like in her control days with Drew Barrymore and the weekend.

1350
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,360
I think that's a great point.

1351
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:45,360
Because like kind of speaks to like what I was saying, like the first album control right, it doesn't have that undertone of like self deprecation.

1352
01:06:45,360 --> 01:07:00,360
Like, like it just has this feel of like hope almost of like trying and figuring out life and like almost like optimistic undertone of like, I'm gonna figure this shit out one day.

1353
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:09,360
Because we are like, like we were very much like black women in specific were for condition to be like I have to one way or another I'm going to figure this out.

1354
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:18,360
Like I have to figure this out. And I'm not saying that other women didn't have to do that. But like it looked a little bit different for us always.

1355
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:27,360
So we always had to like be innovative, like stay on our toes. I even remember my like even my mom, I used to get in trouble for crying.

1356
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:34,360
Like to she say two tears, that's it. Let two tears drop and then you got to you got to get up and get get to it.

1357
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:39,360
Like, I will be getting picked on at school and all that other stuff. My mom will be like go to the bathroom wipe your face.

1358
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:52,360
Don't let the mother fucker see you sweat. And I feel like all of us as black women for a lot of for a lot of us always have like, we're going to go to the bathroom, look in the mirror and be like get your shit together and keep going.

1359
01:07:52,360 --> 01:08:03,360
So when CISA made SOS, and it was very like you said self depleting self deprecating a lot of black women were like straight away from that shit.

1360
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,360
So what the fuck is this?

1361
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:19,360
So so question do you think that like who's idea do you think that was you think that's actually like the space that she was in or do you think that was something her label was like you know let's kind of go with this storyline because

1362
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,360
I think that she was in those spaces.

1363
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,360
I think it was old.

1364
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,360
Yeah, I think it was like orders though.

1365
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:36,360
Because like good days is so fucking amazing. It makes me feel so great. It does not have the same tone that that album has. You know.

1366
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,360
Yeah, sounds different than the rest of the album.

1367
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:44,360
So that's I feel like that album was almost like I don't know if it was before control. I don't fucking know but it's just like.

1368
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:56,360
But a lot of her inspirations were like Princess Diana like she were like she pop culture for her was a lot different and then remember environmentalist CISA remember what I said the whales.

1369
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,360
Like you know, communally we don't be on that.

1370
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:05,360
So I have a question going back to what we were talking about do you feel like that was her look because she couldn't afford to be who she wanted to be.

1371
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,360
Yes.

1372
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,360
That's the point.

1373
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:10,360
That's the point.

1374
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:15,360
And they was eating us up.

1375
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,360
They was eating us up.

1376
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,360
Like you know what I'm saying like she had you have to work with what you got.

1377
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:26,360
Save the whales.

1378
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:33,360
Because like as a community we have a very strict way of looking like you know like you can't really vary from the script.

1379
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,360
Yeah.

1380
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,360
And she just wasn't a part of it.

1381
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:41,360
And it's like in a black community it's like you got to have certain features to be considered pretty.

1382
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,360
I really got to have a certain body shape to be considered pretty.

1383
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,360
It's so crazy like the different layers in the black community like colorism features and.

1384
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:56,360
I love her at every stage when she was skinny when she was skinny baby.

1385
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:00,360
I like the word when she was thicker with the red hair.

1386
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,360
She always been fired up.

1387
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,360
For me always.

1388
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,360
We love you out here.

1389
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,360
And every single facet of life.

1390
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:10,360
Yes.

1391
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,360
And I think that the cute your BBL is cute.

1392
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,360
I personally I feel like you look uncomfortable.

1393
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:22,360
And I feel like she looks a little heavy.

1394
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,360
She looks like she do this every time.

1395
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,360
Oh shit.

1396
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,360
You know.

1397
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,360
Like you be breathing real real hard.

1398
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,360
But like it's all up.

1399
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,360
It really is.

1400
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,360
It looked like it was really hard for you to breathe.

1401
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:42,360
You know the one surgery I can't get behind is the knee joints the men are getting to get taller.

1402
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,360
Do what you got to do.

1403
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:45,360
I've seen it.

1404
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,360
It just looks unsafe.

1405
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,360
That's the only surgery I'm probably against because it does look unsafe and it don't look like in the long run.

1406
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,360
You won't be good.

1407
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,360
I'm very scared.

1408
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:57,360
They're going to get better.

1409
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,360
They're going to make them more safe and they just won't start getting them.

1410
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,360
Well, I'm going to get behind it then.

1411
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,360
And you won't get behind it when it's a little more safer.

1412
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,360
Because right now.

1413
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,360
I don't believe in animal testing and all that other stuff.

1414
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,360
But I feel like you should do trial and error on things.

1415
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,360
That's insane to say next to me.

1416
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,360
I don't know.

1417
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,360
I don't know.

1418
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,360
Wow.

1419
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,360
I have a lot of niggas were here at Transplains.

1420
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:24,360
I love it.

1421
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,360
I love it.

1422
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,360
I'm not mad at it.

1423
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,360
Because I would do it.

1424
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,360
If I was a man.

1425
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,360
I don't even know why women be shaming men for that.

1426
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,360
If you don't got it then go out and get it.

1427
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,360
Go out and get it.

1428
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,360
I would be more mad at die.

1429
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,360
Who?

1430
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,360
I would be more mad at die.

1431
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,360
Oh, the dying on it.

1432
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,360
The dying on it.

1433
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,360
You Beijing ass niggas.

1434
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,360
I couldn't do this.

1435
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,360
Once I started getting to Beijing, I had to shave it off.

1436
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,360
I had a guy like Hat Fish me one time.

1437
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,360
And I was so mad.

1438
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,360
You said Hat Fish me?

1439
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,360
Yeah.

1440
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,360
Niggas gonna be taking off their hats.

1441
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,360
And then when they do.

1442
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:59,360
I was so mad.

1443
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,360
Oh my God.

1444
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:01,360
I hope he not watching this.

1445
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,360
He probably is.

1446
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,360
He is.

1447
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,360
For sure.

1448
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,360
The last impact.

1449
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,360
Cracking up.

1450
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:07,360
Okay.

1451
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,360
So basically it was this guy, right?

1452
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,360
And he was some.

1453
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,360
He was trying to look at you.

1454
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,360
He's from Virginia or something.

1455
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,360
He probably ain't gonna watch it.

1456
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,360
He is.

1457
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Okay.

1458
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,360
You wrong for that.

1459
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:20,360
I'm gonna feel like shit.

1460
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,360
All right.

1461
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,360
Whatever.

1462
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,360
Fuck it.

1463
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,360
This is like creative expression.

1464
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:25,360
So anyway.

1465
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:26,360
Not you trying to coach yourself.

1466
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,360
I was once I was with my friend.

1467
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,360
I had met this guy.

1468
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,360
He tried to talk to me.

1469
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,360
He had like a southern accent or whatever.

1470
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,360
I'm gonna find out he was just visiting Philly.

1471
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,360
And he was from Virginia.

1472
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:35,360
So we exchanged numbers or whatever.

1473
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,360
He went back to Virginia.

1474
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,360
And then we was texting for like maybe like a whole week.

1475
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,360
We was texting.

1476
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,360
He was like, yeah, I want to come up and take you on a date.

1477
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,360
I'm like, we were on a FaceTime at this point and everything.

1478
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,360
Like he, and he has a hat on the whole time.

1479
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,360
And then he will always have one like a du-rag.

1480
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,360
Yeah.

1481
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:52,360
He'll have one like a du-rag.

1482
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,360
And then like he came up to take me on a date or whatever.

1483
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,360
And he still had on a hat.

1484
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,360
He had on a hat and a du-rag.

1485
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,360
He was fine as shit.

1486
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:00,360
Like he was fine as shit.

1487
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:01,360
Y'all, I'm gonna show y'all him after this.

1488
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,360
So what was wrong?

1489
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:03,360
Um, he took it off.

1490
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,360
No, no, no, no.

1491
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,360
So I'm all excited.

1492
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,360
I'm like, he took me on like a really nice day.

1493
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,360
We went to the African-American Museum and then we went to like nifty fifties or whatever.

1494
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,360
And then we did some other things.

1495
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,360
And then like he went back home or whatever.

1496
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,360
Oops.

1497
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,360
He went back home or whatever.

1498
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:23,360
And then he had like uploaded these pictures, like these modeling condolences pictures and

1499
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,360
he didn't have on a hat.

1500
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,360
And it was all this fucking died like in the front.

1501
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,360
And I was like, and that was my first time that I realized I had never seen him without

1502
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,360
a hat.

1503
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,360
I'm just like, this man just had fishmen and I blocked him.

1504
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,360
I blocked him like two weeks and then.

1505
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:39,360
But the dying?

1506
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,360
That's crazy.

1507
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,360
You couldn't tell him.

1508
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,360
I couldn't tell him.

1509
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,360
But you could have told him.

1510
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,360
He always had on a hat.

1511
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,360
You are a pretty girl.

1512
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,360
You could honestly be like, yo, babe, I don't like the dying here.

1513
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,360
Why are you doing that?

1514
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,360
I was too scared.

1515
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:53,360
And this was like two years ago.

1516
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:54,360
I didn't have the confidence to even say this.

1517
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,360
I was like, I was just like, I would have been like, uh-uh, baby.

1518
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,360
That's crazy.

1519
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,360
I had blocked him, but he still follow me on Instagram, but I had blocked him and I was

1520
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,360
just like, wrap.

1521
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,360
Yeah, yes, but we're going to get out of here.

1522
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,360
We're going to get out of here.

1523
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,360
Thank you all for coming.

1524
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,360
I really appreciate it.

1525
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,360
Y'all was really good energy.

1526
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,360
Thank you for having us.

1527
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,360
We're going to have you come back on here again.

1528
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,360
So make sure y'all follow Chiyoki.

1529
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,360
Did I say your name right?

1530
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,360
Right.

1531
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,360
Yeah, no, it's Chiyoki.

1532
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,360
I could follow me at five to cat on all platforms.

1533
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,360
Yes.

1534
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,360
You can follow me at robots aren't real.

1535
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,360
Robots aren't real.

1536
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,360
That's an interesting name.

1537
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,360
You know what it is.

1538
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,360
K the curator.

1539
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,360
Here we are.

1540
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,360
C.A.I. the curator.

1541
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:43,360
And then my name is D.H.E.E. only camera K.A.M.R.I.

1542
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,360
So make sure y'all follow all of us and make sure y'all follow the whole some black girl

1543
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:47,360
page.

1544
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,360
I'm going to drop the link in the bio and make sure that y'all also download our playlist.

1545
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,360
I'm going to add Chiyoki's music on the playlist too.

1546
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,360
Like, comment, and subscribe.

1547
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,360
All right.

1548
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,360
Bye y'all.

1549
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,360
Bye.

1550
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:03,360
Bye.