Hey y'all, we back with another episode of Hosting Black Girl.
So I'm your host Kamri and I have my co-host Kaila with me today.
And we also have a guest, Freddie Foulet.
He's a musician, writer, producer, CEO.
So he's here with us today.
But, yes, let's clap.
Woo!
But first, I want to start off, I want to do like a mental health check.
I ain't gonna go first.
Okay, I guess, this is just for today, because I'm being really dramatic right now, but
I am so heartbroken.
Damn, you didn't start over too.
But it's okay.
Okay.
Because fuck it, we ball.
Like I say, every episode.
We do ball.
Yes.
I feel like you've had some positives.
Oh yeah, I'm alive, I'm here.
And also, I was just talking to my mom about this.
For the past, I guess, couple months, I've just been feeling so much love.
I'm so loved and I just appreciate everyone that's here with me.
Shout out to y'all.
I thought the same way.
Because you deserve it.
It's tough.
Yes, theory.
I do.
But I spent a lot of time being super ungrateful, but glory be to God, y'all.
I can relate to that.
I feel like I'm currently in a state of confusion.
I'm in a state of confusion.
I said this the last episode, but I don't know what the fuck is going on.
I'm 23.
I'll be 24 in four months.
And I'm still figuring life out.
So I'm a little confused right now with life and how it's going, but I'm just going to
trust that I'm on the right path.
But I feel the same way as Kayla.
I feel like I've been surrounded by so much love lately.
I had a few falling outs, but ultimately-
Fuck them bitches.
Ultimately, though, life is going great.
So you want to go, Freddie?
I'm in good spirits.
It's a good day.
I had a good night.
I didn't get much sleep, but we here.
I'm happy to be here.
Thanks for having me, y'all.
It's a good vibe.
This is my first podcast.
It's like podcast virginity.
Getting snatched up.
Damn.
I'm actually happy he came on.
I'm very happy he came on.
I was super nervous to have Freddie come on this podcast because I feel like you are very
intense.
I've heard that.
I have heard that.
I was nervous to tell him everything got to be perfect.
Period.
He ain't about to give me no criticism on this shit.
I ain't going to criticize.
I think that's one thing people know about me.
If I have something critical to say, I'm going to say this shit.
I mean, that's just how I am.
It's all out of love, though.
For sure.
It always be loving.
I feel like I never come off... I try not to come off condescending.
I feel like some people might think I do.
I feel like you called me pretentious one time.
She sure did.
I'm going to be honest.
I'd rather be pretentious than trash at something.
I know that's not pretentious.
No, I don't think you're pretentious.
I think sometimes, and the thing is you say you come off as pretentious.
Even if I am pretentious, that's okay.
I'm not mad.
He said, I am who I am.
Be who you are.
It's like that spice you got.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But it's like you be neat in it sometimes.
You really do.
My last podcast episode, he had some...
He ripped her to shreds.
And then I ain't... Yo, bitch.
Damn.
I said, fuck.
What the fuck is that?
Yo, I literally...
I didn't even think it was that bad.
I was reading it.
I said, damn.
It was bad.
No, no.
I listened to his... Because he sent me a voice message.
I listened to it, and I was like...
She sent you a voice message.
Chill, chill, chill.
I was about to cry.
I ain't even going to lie.
She texted the group chat.
She was like, did you see what Freddy...
I was like, did you see what Freddy...
I can't even lie to you.
I was like...
Some bitches was like, well, you do got a point.
I was like, damn, nigga.
You don't even know.
This is our first day out here.
We all know what the hell we doing.
It was your second.
But...
Okay.
Relax.
Technically, it was the first, because the first one was a pilot.
We wasn't even sure if it was going...
Be what it is.
Fuck out of here.
No, I'm just being... I'm just being...
But you know, you be needing that kind of stuff sometimes from people.
Get you some niggas around you that want you to fucking succeed.
I'm saying that's really all it comes from.
And I can tell he was saying that out of like just...
Care.
Genuine care.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just being genuine.
We had a moment like that last night.
Yeah, definitely.
It seems like y'all have a lot of moments.
Y'all was about to say that too.
Yeah, I mean...
We're a very honest group.
Really?
But that's... Remember the story with D, because he asked me to meet with all our friends
in the A band.
Fred and we all like six four, we all work out.
Obviously, Fred doesn't.
You know what I mean?
He's like, I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
That's not my niche.
You feel what I'm saying?
He works with the gym.
You know what I'm saying?
So every two to six months, like...
I mean, there are spans where I'm really in there locked in.
We did a six to eight month span where I was just in the gym four days a week.
You know what I mean?
For real?
Yeah.
I was like, I'm trying to quantify it.
He's doing it with tits.
He's confident.
You know what I'm saying?
The energy he brings is...
He that nigga.
I said, tell you what, I'm about to call him and you can talk to him.
Give it like 10 minutes, right?
Verbatim.
I still got to text her to prove it.
Five minutes later, she calls me and was like, I get it.
I'd fuck him.
I'll crack it up.
I get it.
He was so intensely...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Freddie Duff got good energy.
When I saw him, I was like, I'm going to fuck him.
I'm going to fuck him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Freddie Duff got good energy.
When I saw him perform last night, because we went to a makeshift to see him perform
and they kept fucking up.
Damn.
When I saw his face, I said, yeah, he irritated.
Who was that guy's name?
His name is his fucking number.
I can't even remember what his name was, bro, but to be honest, no disrespect, but it don't
matter because...
Okay, DJ, fuck up.
Yeah.
When you fucking up like that, your name really don't matter, bro.
But he got that shit together, so shout out to him for getting that shit together at the
end of the day.
But keep it together, baby.
But he had... Back to my point, he had very good energy performing.
It was a lot of artists that was really good last night, but I really like Freddie's energy.
You had really great crowd interaction, all that shit.
Thank you.
But I do want to get into your album.
Yes, let's do it.
This album.
Will of Fortune.
So I feel like when I first heard that album, I feel like I was drawn to it a lot because
it was during a time period where I was getting into journaling and writing down information
and stuff like that.
And I feel like in your album, there's a few information in there.
I hear it a lot.
And I feel like the themes that I get from it, like self growth, self preservation, I
just get those kind of themes.
So I just want to ask you, what sparked you wanting to create Will of Fortune?
Actually, before you answer that, tell me the background on the title of your album.
It's Will of Fortune, not Will.
Will.
Yeah, not like Will.
But yeah, Will.
So, all right, so when I was... I was just making music, you know what I'm saying?
Doing what I love to do.
And at a certain point, I just had a collection of songs that I didn't really know what to
do with.
And that's what kind of put me on the track, like, okay, this can be an album if I do it
right.
And so I just started thinking, for me, I like to bring nostalgia, if that makes sense.
That's just the aesthetic that I like to bring.
I like to make people feel like they know what I'm talking about already or the themes
in it.
I want them to feel familiar, especially me knowing that I'm an artist that I'm still
very obscure.
Like, I haven't broken through the mainstream mode yet.
Underground or independent, like a lot of people say.
But I like to say obscure because you can be independent or underground and still have
a real great following.
You know what I'm saying?
So when I thought about that, being somebody that not a lot of people know, I'm like, well,
the themes in the album should be familiar so at least they can connect to something.
And so when I was just listening to the music that I was making, it felt, like you said,
self preservation, affirmations and stuff like that.
And it just made me feel like it was centered around what words or themes, like I said,
are the main parts of this project.
And willpower is one of them.
So I was like, will.
And I was like, okay, I like to play on words a lot.
As a lyricist, I feel like that just comes with the territory.
So I just kind of played on will of fortune.
But I made it like, I added nuance.
So I took something that most people already know, a concept people already know.
And it's like, even like you could be a couple decades older than me.
You could be 40, 50, 60.
You know about the show Will of Fortune.
You may not have seen it in your lifetime, but you've heard about it at least.
So I felt like if I could add nuance to something that people already knew a lot about and not
even just a small group of people, like a vast group of people, and make it feel good,
then I would be doing something right.
So that's how I took the approach to the title.
I feel you.
But I mean, I feel like you kind of just answered both questions at the same time.
Can I ask you one?
Yeah.
I thought I wanted to work with you about this.
Yeah, it's cool.
So when you first played this, I think Will was the first song.
Will's kind of feels different to make a song that's an album that feels more like a girl
music.
I was about to say that.
I told him that before.
It feels like a really vulnerable song.
Yeah.
I remember the first version of that, you had edited some parts out.
The first version was you said something along the lines, talking about the process of your
studio, your co-workers, they're alone.
It just kind of feels like a vulnerable and expectant of your mind at that point.
Some of those parts were cut from that specific song like in the beginning, right?
And the rest of the song, while the album is 100% vulnerable, I feel like Will's feels
more like a first person narrative compared to the rest of the album.
It's like you're narrating the world for it.
Whereas in Will's, we're stepping into like-
Your mind.
Yeah.
So I was wondering, is there some anxiety about breaking down those walls like two vulnerabilities
that you cut it short at Will and change your perspective as the album went on?
You had to work through that.
Or is that like a separate process?
It's definitely like a separate process.
I need to be able to do those things where it's like I just give you what's in my mind
strictly with no filter for real, for real, in order to tell my story.
You know what I'm saying?
But I feel like in order to engage your audience, you also have to be able to speak from a different
perspective.
From their perspective.
You know what I'm saying?
Because a lot of my music is very, very personal.
So when I'm creating music, it's like, okay, how do I connect with this audience the best?
So it's like I can't consistently, to me I feel like if I'm consistently talking from
my perspective the whole time, I get a disconnect.
And I never really want to be so far disconnected from the audience that I'm not relatable.
They can't feel it.
You know what I mean?
So I try to balance that.
You know what I mean?
I feel like all of my music almost starts off from just that first person perspective.
And then I have to develop it over time through different editing processes.
A lot of my songs go through multiple different versions.
I know a lot of people, a lot of artists might just go in the studio and record a bunch of
songs.
You might go in a session and do 12 songs or something like that.
I've seen people do a whole mix tapes in a session before.
But I'm typically not in that space.
But I'll rework one song five times.
You know what I mean?
It'll have, it'll sound like a different song every time.
So that's just my process.
So yeah, it's definitely separate but it still connects.
It's a process literally.
It starts from this stage and then it goes to a middle space where it's like, all right,
now I'm kind of like, it's introspective but it's also forward for the audience.
And then it finally gets to that last space where it's like, it's personal but somebody
could sing this and still feel like I'm singing it.
It's their situation.
It still feels like it's they song.
And I want all my stuff to feel like it's your song at the end of the day.
Like yo, when he wrote this, he was thinking about me.
You know what I mean?
Right, right, right.
That's what just made the switch up.
It's kind of like a maleist of a proposal.
Like I said, First Person Heritage is my favorite type of book.
It's like you really feel like you're the main character.
Or it's like eyeing and such as a proposal and dressing up proud with the song.
But it feels like you being a person versus you hanging out with the person.
You hit all the notes on that one.
It was that down.
He definitely did.
Like when I first, I don't want to say that Freddie responsible for my podcast but just
a little bit.
Because when I first heard it, I think I already told him that.
When I first heard it though, I was like at work and I was listening to what he was saying.
I'm like damn, I need to get off my ass.
For real?
I was like damn.
I said I need to get this fucking podcast rolling.
Because people was telling me for like months, like you need to start this podcast.
And I wasn't doing it because I was scared.
And then when I listened to that album, I'm like yeah.
I was really in go mode.
That's tough.
I can't even lie about it.
We both like locked in too.
It was kind of just like we really got some shit here.
Even like me with my personal life, like you know, I'm a college graduate.
I have my bachelor's degree.
Thank you.
Graduated early in everything y'all.
Super fire.
Different.
But I'm fashion merchandising.
Alright.
Okay, it's a couple fashion, you know what I mean?
Fashion folks in this room.
My thing was like I always said that I was going to build on whatever my mom made.
She has her, she has graduate degrees too.
And I was like okay, so like now I got to up it.
But I was dragging my feet because I'm like I know what I want to go to school for.
But you know, black parents, black collegiate parents have like very strict goals on what
they want for their kids.
Black collegiate parents are separate.
Yeah.
You are in a family that can be considered like affluent.
There's a lot of pressure on you to be that.
And because I'm so creative and she just never got it, and I'm like I want to get my master's,
but I want to get it in something that's like more geared towards like art.
Yeah, like what you want to do.
I mean the whole reason why I got the fashion degree in the first place was because like
that was our compromise because I was actually wanted to go to school for dance.
But she was like you ain't going to make no money.
I feel like people don't really understand.
And I'm guilty of it too.
I feel like it has to do with like why I didn't start making art on my own sooner.
But like when I just know when I was growing up, the entertainment industry generally just
seemed like you had to either be like really lucky or like really rich.
And that's it.
I didn't see how regular people got into the industry at all.
But like I feel like that's why rap ended up being like my catalyst for my creativity
and I put my art out because I was able to see how you could see how rappers were building
their careers, especially like mixtape era, like you know, battle rap era, you know what
I'm saying, battle rap and then like the blogs and shit like that, Tumblr, all that shit.
Like they were literally, they were documenting everything so you knew like, okay, he was
doing this before he got signed and da da da da.
Yeah, that's a prime example.
Like all of those, all of the like stars that we have now, Nicki, Drake, Cole, even The Weeknd,
like for somebody that's so like mysterious, like you didn't even know what he looked like
for like the first, you know what I'm saying?
But you still could like trace the story and even now it's like well documented.
But that's what really got me into like, okay, I could do this if I really want to.
Because I've always been in music and art.
So the first time I performed I was probably like three.
Yeah.
Because my mom was an artist.
Like my mom is, she writes and she does screenplays and regular plays, you know what I'm saying?
Like she's, and she directs and stuff.
She has two books out.
Shout out to her.
She's pretty decent.
Shout out to you mom.
Yeah.
But yeah, so she always had us like doing stuff.
Like my sister was in school for fashion.
She went to drug school.
My oldest sister.
I got three sisters.
And you know.
Are you the baby?
Yeah, I'm the youngest.
Wow.
You probably act just like my dad.
No, I'm a boy.
Boy.
I don't know what to say about that.
I'm just like that.
Boys that were raised by women and they were, then they were the baby are the most spoiled brats.
My sisters love to say that.
Shout out to y'all too.
I really feel like you probably.
You definitely say you spoiled.
I know you're spoiled.
And I could care less.
And that's what I'm talking about.
But.
I mean.
You give, the thing is I'm an only child.
So like we have the same energy.
Okay.
When it comes to that type.
Like the babies and the onlies are the ones that like move like the world belongs to them.
And that's why we be getting the shit that we want.
So maybe if you take some risks.
Take some risks.
But yeah.
Cause the world does revolve around you because it's your world.
These niggas just living in it.
I like that.
Yeah.
It's your simulation.
You mean.
Whatever you're doing in your simulation, that's what you're supposed to be doing.
Exactly.
I never, that.
We was kings.
I cannot stand Hoteps.
I can't stand Hoteps niggas either.
Hoteps be saying.
Chill.
I be flipping the letters a lot.
You gotta chill.
Like you.
Damn.
You gotta be too close.
I'm riddled but I'm folding more.
Hoteps be saying anything.
Like it don't be no type of critical thinking, but they think that they are.
Except Dr. Umar Johnson.
We love you over here.
I fuck with Umar.
I can't lie.
I fuck with Dr. Umar.
He be saying some weird shit sometimes.
He said, you may not bring your white wife.
I said yes.
I told them that.
I'm great.
She is not welcome here.
When the spotlight on him, he be talking and talk like I've never, like especially whenever
you give him like a platform platform, he does not embarrass the community.
That's how I feel.
He's just so funny.
He say what he need to say like on Breakfast Club and shit like that.
These are bigger platforms that like most people watch.
I mean.
That's true.
I never ever been.
I feel like he be talking that shit on there.
And it be making sense.
Yeah.
It do.
But I'm still going flat iron my hair baby.
I'm sorry.
Amen.
And I'm going to wear my fake lashes.
If it look for real.
So what you got to understand is that like you're seeing the culture from a male perspective.
Right.
And like a lot of males kind of speak for black people entirely.
So yeah, I think that like their collective experience is the sum total of that culture.
We can talk about that.
That's a big part of black women culture.
You can't pick that.
It makes it makes it made life easier.
Like let's be really if we're going to be 100 like completely come on.
A lot of times assimilation looks different from black men to black women.
For sure.
So like it's a little bit easier for black men to assimilate into white culture because
white culture as a whole is male centric.
So if you take the race out of it to be honest y'all on the same y'all on the same level.
So if you can just get the rhetoric right be in the right places let yeah yeah like
let the right white man call you a nigga a couple times.
Then you are you're set even to the point where you can have access to their women which
is also like a huge status symbol.
And we should talk about that not to cut you off.
But we need to talk about that more because it's like why is that a thing?
You know what I'm saying?
I don't it's weird when like it's weird how black men and white women fetishize each other
like that dynamic specifically is a strange one.
Seeing it in real time is nasty.
People are interested in pushing.
Yeah a lot like too much.
I'm a big fan of like I always say like the goofy shit like we should just ignore.
I think Nipsey might have said something like that.
Shout out to Nipsey too RIP Nipsey.
I feel like a lot of shit we let we talk about way too much like we give way too much attention
like if it's so goofy that we all like you know I'm saying most of us be like nah that's
some goofy shit but still tweet about it or still like you know I'm saying have like little
incubator conversations in our friend groups and shit like that and brainstorm about like
why this is or why it isn't but it's like why does it matter?
You know what I'm saying?
Like we should just give shit less energy.
The more energy you give shit like the more it grows.
Like when you pour into yourself you know what I'm saying and the things you believe in and
shit like that you start manifesting that stuff.
So it's the same concept like if we pour into like the bullshit and like the weird narratives
or the weird dynamics it's going to grow.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you're going to just hear more about it on a regular basis.
That's how the algorithms we're picking up on shit like.
I got a mixed thought on that because like on one hand I agree but on the other hand
it's kind of like this black kid died and the mayor was like he could have been like
a poor lawyer, he could have been an action hunter, he could have been a regular ass nigga.
And to be honest that would have been fine too.
He would have been alive.
And that's the thing.
That's the thing.
How come that's one thing that I've noticed especially about like just media and mass
media how come you have to bring up what the person was doing or who he was.
Exactly.
All for him to justify or to say that the murder was not justified.
Like you know what I'm saying?
He was, he or she was just a human being.
Is that not enough for him or her to not be alive?
Oh because he was down with Ray Ray down the block.
He's like worthless or he was just so happy to have a best friend that sold drugs.
Okay so that makes him a drug dealer and he deserved to die.
Oh he ran into the, like he ran a stop light or something.
We see that all the time yeah.
All the time.
A teacher who just got murdered by cops.
He had a criminal record.
His name was Kenan.
I don't remember his last name but I believe it was Kenan and if I'm wrong.
Sorry I apologize.
But it was everywhere and people was just justifying it a whole lot.
Like oh well he was, he wasn't, he was resisting or you know what I mean.
But who wouldn't?
He would just do a bunch of times to stay still or da da da da.
But to be honest like when you get, like a lot of people haven't even been put in handcuffs
before right?
Them things hurt.
Or subdued by police especially a group of them.
And it's a lot of people you'd be surprised that haven't even been pulled over.
Like I've been pulled over several times and I remember the anxiety I felt like when the
first cop car pulled up and then the second cop car pulled up and then the third cop car
pulled up.
Like why are there so many cops for a regular traffic stop?
And to be honest why am I even getting stopped for headlights or you know what I'm saying?
It'd be little mundane stuff that they just try to like press you for.
And so with that being said like imagine being put in handcuffs being forced to the ground.
Like people barking orders at you.
They holding guns or tasers at you.
Like your anxiety is probably going to be on a thousand.
So to then say to somebody like or to say about somebody.
Yeah don't move.
And then after somebody's dead from being murdered by a cop to say oh well they were
resisting.
My life is in danger.
Why would you resist?
The natural reaction innately is to resist you know what I'm saying being in danger.
Like when your life feels threatened what do you think you're going to do?
Like even when you fight if someone were to hit you your actual natural reaction is to
hit back.
Like come on.
Like it's like that's the natural human thing to do fight or flight.
You wouldn't call it that if it wasn't a thing.
That's why I feel like in times where like we're experiencing like the least brutality
and stuff like that.
I feel like just having a community is so important.
It is.
Sisterhood is important.
Brotherhood is important.
Family is important.
And I feel like you kind of touched on that in For My Dogs.
That's my shit.
I feel like you kind of touched on that.
We ain't Kella we just talking about this but we were saying how you know how usually
when musicians they make music about well male musicians they make music about friendships
they be like oh I'm a ride for my nigga.
Yours was more so like sentimental.
It was like very vulnerable to me like in a way that I haven't heard it before.
You know what it reminded me of?
I get around about two o'clock when they just showed up at his house.
Yeah.
Was that intentional though for you to do that one?
I mean I remember like when I first got the spark for that song.
The sample was Donny McClurkin.
I did not mention the sample.
I am a church lady girl.
I am a God fearing woman.
So I heard it and I was like yes.
So once we did that we were shocked that no one sampled it before.
I haven't never heard nobody sample that record and it's just like such a beautiful record.
So once we got that and I just listened to it and got into it for a while.
When I was writing that album I only wanted to write things that I felt were very important
to me because it was about giving myself, giving a portion of myself with my art form.
So I'm like one of the most important things is friendship.
As far as what I consider essentials to life and I talk about that throughout the album
is like good friends is important.
That's your creative family.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I wanted to talk about it from my perspective and just what I feel like being a good friend
is about because the society we in now, this era we have is very superficial and just surface
level so to speak because everything is so fast.
Things happen so fast now.
The way we build relationships are different than they used to be where everything was
like you had to literally be in front of that person.
Write letters.
Call on a house phone.
Only call on a house phone, no cell phone.
So the timing in which you could interact with people was just different.
Now we have social media.
You can FaceTime somebody on Instagram.
You don't even got to have a number.
That's a lot of access to people.
You get so much more access so it's like you think you know people but it's like you don't.
And then just generally the worth of what being a friend means, the things that really
go into friendship I feel like are diluted.
So you know I've been to therapy a few times and all that.
Just throwing it out there.
I went to two sessions.
I went to more sessions than that but my point being is like.
You would think you went to two though.
Chill, chill, chill.
Hours after therapy, yeah bro so I'm thinking of doing this.
I was like that shit needs taking this.
I guess that's that alternative aim for things.
I'll still be ready.
It's not sticking at all.
He said she told me no but I'm going to do it anyway.
That be me.
That's why I'll be telling my therapist all the truth.
If you watching this Miss Cam, I'm so sorry.
Therapist, they be.
I'll be like I'm never going to do this again and do it right after.
Do you hold your friends accountable though?
Yeah, we can get into that but let me just finish this point.
So to answer your question, yes it was very intentional.
I was just trying to talk about things that I felt like was important and shed light on
the aspects of friendship that I feel like aren't talked about a lot.
What really having, really knowing a person, really being there for a person.
Beyond romantic relationships, I feel like you have different kinds of love and there's
a strong love that we don't really dive into in music when it comes to friendship beyond
like when you out with your friends and shit like that.
Life be feeling worth living.
For my dogs, it's definitely about that too but it's also about like it just goes deeper.
I wanted to reach in and go to a different level of it.
When you said something in there about we don't got to talk every day.
Yeah, we don't fall off.
We don't fall out.
Yeah, I'm like I'm diggity.
We just follow up and then we ball out.
But that's the thing.
I think especially with female friendships, they want so much access to you.
They want endless access to the point where I'm just like.
You can get burnt out.
You know what I'm saying?
You can get burnt out in friendships too.
I just need something.
But exactly like and so what?
Because everyone has different relationships.
I talk to one friend, Toy.
Shout out to Toy.
Love you, babe.
I talk to her like every day but me and Cam, we don't always talk every day.
We've been talking more because we're doing this together.
I really feel like this generation has normalized being super attached and clingy to people.
Because even-
It's the entitlement.
It's co-dependency.
Co-dependency.
Even in some of my previous friendships or even just people that I deal with in general,
they would take it personally if I didn't text them every single day.
And it's like I'm just personally, I'm not that type of person.
I really value being alone.
I really value just sitting by myself and just figuring myself out.
I don't want to talk to people after that.
But to be honest, niggas don't like themselves.
That's another thing.
Niggas don't like themselves.
Let me tell you something.
They like who they are around here.
Yeah, but that's them feeding off and that's what I realized about a lot of people that
were in my life is that they fucked with how I made them feel.
But if you can't make yourself feel worth it by yourself, then there's an issue.
Yeah, you got work to do.
You really do have work to do.
It's that shadow work.
For real.
We're doing that shadow work.
And the real thing is, it's like people will leech off of energy.
They will try to drain you as much as possible because they don't have anything to give.
They're like completely empty vessels.
So when you come full and whole, they try to take your stuff.
I read this while I'm reading this book.
It's like an infinite book.
It's like, it reminds me of the Bible.
You said I read some of my wife's books.
But yeah, this book is like-
Benjamin Franklin out here like-
Little crutches for pot.
Listen.
Looking up from hell like, read?
Niggas read?
Rolling in his grave.
No!
That's the first nigga I keep flying that bitch over for life.
Nigga getting shocked infinitely.
Y'all, I want to touch on one of his songs.
Benjamin Franklin?
No, no.
Benjamin Franklin made beauty.
I'm kind of shifting the conversation a little bit.
They did say he was a jack of all trades.
I'm shifting the conversation a little bit.
But I want to talk about Burning Me Out.
I feel like that song is so on brand Philly nigga song.
He was like, I ain't your little baby.
I ain't your little boo sis.
That killed me.
But it's like, I fuck with it because he's basically just saying, I just want to fuck
you.
I mean, yeah.
But it's like, it's layers to that though.
You feel what I'm saying?
You took them off for the song.
Yeah, it's layers to that too.
But no, we can talk about that.
I don't mind.
That's it.
I just got a quick question.
What he said, was that that song?
That he said something about sending the girl to the third dimension.
What's that?
Oh, that's the French's.
That's the French's.
Yeah.
I have a question about that.
Do you really think that's how that went?
If you want my honest opinion.
Yes.
Yes, that's how Imagine it went.
Imagine.
You see how he, words mean things.
It's like, no, I just feel like, yeah, I'm going to keep it at being.
I do feel like it went that way.
Imagination, but also in reality, the vibes was just giving it.
It felt like you're not the same person anymore.
I'm breaking up.
You're not who you used to be.
Yes.
You're different.
Somehow.
All 2023, I'm moving like that.
I'm just saying, somebody else might do that too.
He was like, and burning me out, he was like, legs tremble from a faint touch.
I was like, damn, you really got it like that?
I've experienced it.
I'm only just talking about what I've experienced.
Again, that might happen with somebody else too, but I'm just talking about what happens
with me.
I know that.
You know what I'm saying?
When I'm in the mix with it, that's how it be.
So I'm going to speak on that.
Okay.
Do you feel like men are, because it was like a conversation on Twitter and they were saying
how you can be honest, but it's a way to approach it.
Why do you feel like men are such dickheads when it comes to honesty?
I feel like they'd be thinking the more straightforward the-
Yeah.
I think it has to do with a personal thing first and foremost.
You worried about what this girl, what you think she want versus who you are.
At the end of the day, somebody going to fuck with you or they're not going to fuck with
you.
And I think a lot of male entitlement comes from, I don't really care if she fuck with
me or not.
This is what I want.
I'm a finesse or finangular however I can, where it's just like you get way farther when
you just be yourself.
Not to say take what you get, but it's like you attract what you put out.
If you put out great energy, you're going to get great energy back.
So yeah.
But you a Libra.
I didn't say you attract what you deserve.
That's enough.
If you're a person or if you really want something.
I know some, I grew up in their food, bro.
It's like you know a lot of cats who kind of emulate a certain type of behavior.
And they get surprised by the results of it.
We're just talking about men and women by the women that they attract.
And they're upset that they meet women like them.
And you want to know what I was about to say.
You were going to do the same.
To that point though, it's like if you attract what you deserve, a lot of people are delusional.
And they think they deserve more than what they actually are worth.
Or they don't want to believe that this is what they deserve and they maybe should do
some more work on themselves.
If you're not getting the response or the energy that you think you deserve, then maybe
you should look in the mirror.
Exactly.
Because we was never good enough to niggas in the first place.
I don't think that we were really born with that trait.
We were constantly told.
I remember the first time that someone told me that I was undesirable.
I was five.
I was five years old.
I was playing with a group of people.
We were playing house.
And the little girl told me, you're too brown.
We not playing with you.
And I'm like, but there was another girl that was lighter than me.
She was still black.
And I was like, well, she brown too.
Not your type of brown.
And I constantly got those messages over and over and over again.
And then going to a predominantly white school and then there was black kids that were there.
The black boys made me know.
They made it their business to make sure that I knew that I wasn't what they wanted.
So that is the reality for a lot of black women.
That's why we are always so think critically of ourselves for one, and two, we're very
hyper vigilant because we always feel like we have to mask and mold ourselves and pack
ourselves down to be palatable for not only our family, but black men, white men, white
women, like everybody.
Even black women even.
That does go over into our dating life too.
All the black women I know, they always have poor dating experiences.
And I feel like that falls back on what you were just saying.
We're conditioned to feel as though we're undesirable.
So we take what we can get sometimes.
Yeah, you take what you can get sometimes.
So I don't know.
I feel like a lot of black women have shitty dating experiences and it falls back on that.
And it falls back on us.
It's our fault all the time.
And you know what's crazy?
I feel like black women, they have better dating experiences when they date outside
their race.
And I hate to say-
And I hate that because it's the truth and I've experienced that firsthand.
And I've talked to family members.
I've talked to even women at work, strangers.
Every time they start dating outside their race, they have like-
I give-
I was a cutie.
I've always gotten treated so well by men that were not black.
I don't like that that's a thing that y'all even think that way.
But it's true.
I'm not saying it's not.
I'm saying I don't like that it exists.
And a lot of times we do it reluctantly too.
But do you feel like in general black men are emotionally available or romantic?
I really just, in general, I'm not talking individually.
In general, I really just don't feel like y'all are.
I don't think they have the capacity for it.
Generally, I can see that perspective.
Why do you think that is?
I feel like black men do a lot of-
Can I go up there?
Yes.
I think black men do a lot of pandering, if you will.
Dead ass.
Just trying to live up to an expectation that they'll never be able to reach.
And I can kind of relate to that to an extent.
So when it comes to dating black women, they're automatically on this defensive and-
I feel like that contributes to why y'all get so much standoffish, like you said, emotionally
unavailable vibe because we're always worried about whether or not we're adequate.
And that's the thing.
Because I had a conversation with someone about that too.
And it's just like, I get it.
But in my experience and every black woman I've ever really talked to, it was like, but
I loved him just because he was him.
I loved him just because.
And y'all have that superpower.
Yeah.
He doesn't need anything extra.
I just want you to bring yourself to the table.
So do you feel like social media is a reason why a lot of black men feel like you're inadequate
sometimes?
We see on social media a lot, especially on Twitter, it's a lot of black women like, oh,
you gotta pay for this.
And if you're not taking me to like stake 48, you ain't got a chance with me.
Do you feel like that has to do with that too?
I think it contributes, but I think it goes way beyond social media.
It's just a culture of capitalism, I feel like, that contributes to that more so than
anything.
Capitalism, racism.
But that's the thing.
But I feel like racism is, I think we often stray away from the fact that like, there
is no racism without capitalism.
We worried about, racism is a real thing.
The two are synonymous also.
Don't get me twisted.
But capitalism is really the root.
Racism.
Capitalism is like the castle, but like racism is the doors that keep people from getting
that.
Exactly.
But they built it that way.
Yeah, they built it.
And I don't mean to leave this parody, but there are social barriers that are going to
stop you.
And let's be real, like what came first, the chicken or the egg?
This is very strictly like, it's clear that capitalism came first.
You know what I'm saying?
This isn't one of those riddles or whatever.
Capitalism was the first journal.
And I remember like when I was at community college and shit like that, I had this sociology
teacher and we had to write a paper at the end of the semester about this or that.
And he revealed like, towards the end of the semester that he was Republican.
This was a very open minded person.
White man, older white man.
I was impressed even at how like tolerant I could say he was and just like, you know,
it seemed like he respected all people.
You know what I'm saying?
But somewhere in our classes, we had like open discussions for classes, every class.
And it was all different kinds of people in there, like black, white, you know what I'm
saying?
LGBTQ, like just everybody you can think of was in that class.
But this one class, he ended up, racism was like the topic.
And he was just like, racism?
Where?
Basically, that was his premise.
And I was just like stunned because his take was that racism was non-existent at this point
in time.
Like in this day and age.
You got the money, you got the house.
Look at you, you're in college.
And I was just baffled.
Like I've never, that was the first time I ever heard anybody actually say racism didn't
exist.
I don't think I ever heard that before then.
And for him to say, I was even more shocked.
But then I was like, I shouldn't be shocked.
You know what I mean?
But I still wasn't.
So towards the end of the class, like when we was turning in the papers and stuff like
that, I was reluctant to like even really like connect with the professor the same way
I used to.
But I remember he, you know, I turned in my paper and he gave me a good grade on that
drawing, but he was like, you're a business owner, you're this, you're that.
I can't believe you wrote this paper about like free college.
Like how could you, I can't believe this is your stance.
Like this is socialist.
And I was like, okay, I don't really see it as socialist.
Like I just feel like education should be free.
You know what I'm saying?
But based off of what he was saying, like it's true.
Adequate free education too.
I mean, the paper was basically about how like, you know, college education should be
free to everybody if we want like for the society.
You know what I'm saying?
We should be able to have access to free education at a high level.
And so he was just like, if you give people access to free education, then there's no
desire for it.
Like the value of it goes down.
I'm like, how?
Like I just couldn't put two and two together there, but that's just a typical like, cause
niggas hopping out every day, every second, every minute.
You put a value on something that's essential and you run that shit up, you know what I'm
saying?
And then sometimes like, that's how you make money because then people know they need that.
So they're going to pay whatever cost you put on it.
I'm sorry, bro.
Education can't be devalued by the amount of people that have it.
Bro, so it's a wild, but it sounds crazy, right?
Yeah.
It sounds crazy, but that's how the thinking is.
But even still like education is just like the base level of it.
Like not everyone is going to be a daggone genius.
Like there was niggas in Einstein's class, I'm pretty sure.
That was not mentally where he was at.
You see niggas in the class all black and white?
Yeah.
Tell them to just hear it for the photo.
Yeah, like it's like, even when, even like to circle back to what we was talking about
a little earlier about like how come like niggas can't just be regular, like even the
rhetoric behind like everybody, every black person, like black excellence, we all have
to strive for like this like mass amount of wealth and we just have to all try to reach
to the 1%.
And it's just like, what is wrong with just being normal?
Like there are people, like there are going to be people that are better than you.
There are going to be people that are worse than you.
Like you're going to, everything is a spectrum.
Why does it feel like everybody wants to be like the talented 10th?
Yeah, because this, this, it don't ever work like that.
Yeah.
So we're in society right now with, with this being a predominantly capitalist society,
and this isn't just America, this is just how the world works.
Capitalism is based off of like steadily, you know what I'm saying?
Climbing up the ladder over a period of time throughout life.
Like that's the lifestyle of it.
And so I feel like at any point where you feel stagnated, you're automatically at the
back end of society.
If it, if we talk about capitalism.
So that's, that's, that's why that is.
And it sucks, but that's just the way the world sees things.
You know what I'm saying?
It's, it's crazy.
I feel like a lot of people like are against like socialist and I guess communist, like
economic systems.
Yeah, even communism.
And no one's saying that like we need to transition to those in totality.
I feel like the only, that's because the only examples we have of communism is like Stalin.
Exactly.
Even democracy did an initiative.
Even Castro.
I'm saying like no one, no one is talking about transition and going into those extremes
of communism or socialism when they talk about them.
But we're saying that like we need aspects of these different economic systems in order
to move forward.
Exactly.
But that's the thing.
Like even with communism, I always look at it and I'm just like, but do you see how selfish
communist rulers actually were?
Right.
It's more like a democracy than you really think.
Yeah, it's closer and it's close.
It's very close and dynamic, especially like you said, if you put one person in power and
they have like control over everything, that means that the money is funneling from the
top down.
If they take 90% of that and then only leave 10% for like two, three, four, five million
people, of course it's going to be shitty.
I mean, I don't care how pure you are or how pure you were.
But at a certain point you get up the ladder and you gain enough power.
You're not going to want to give that up.
And that's why racism still exists to this day.
Because if you ask a white person if you would trade places with even one of us who seem
to have it more together than, I don't know, another random black person or even like the
immigrant or anything, they would still say no.
Because they know that when they go to work, when they have to go to work, they're going
to have to meet some dumb, some dumb Karen that's going to tell them, ask them if their
dad was in their life just based off the fact that you were black or like little stupid
ass microaggressions that you're just going to have to eat because you got to keep your
job.
Like they don't want to have to go through that.
White people have the power to just be.
Yeah.
That's another part of the whole need for black excellence thing.
It's been proven and shown so many times in our society, throughout history that in order
for black people to be valued, get any type of anything, you have to be exceptionally
better than your contemporaries.
Which will never happen.
And it's like we have to do the maximum amount of work and then some.
We have to be the most personable.
We have to be just otherworldly as far as like the level of skill and talent and genius.
And I think that's the most important thing.
I think that's the most important thing.
Yeah.
He said, oh, he said, he said, damn, I cracked the code.
Let's shift the conversation.
I don't even know how we got on there, but it was an interesting conversation.
But I want to get to the fun stuff.
So we have a few sex questions for you.
I mean, beauty's just coming.
No, it's host a black girl.
Hey, smile.
So do you prefer hair or no hair in a coochie?
And have you ever fucked anybody with like a bushy ass coochie?
Like 70s, 1970s coochie.
Oh man.
Yes.
Yeah.
I prefer no hair.
No hair.
Okay.
Have you ever fucked anybody with a bushy ass coochie?
Bushy, bushy.
Did you say 1970s?
1970s push.
Wolf puss.
No, I can't say I have.
Would you?
I can't say I would.
Why don't men like hair?
I just feel like me personally, I don't want to speak for all men.
No, a lot of men feel this way.
So you can speak for all men.
Yeah, what are you about to say?
I want to see what he about to say.
But I just feel like it's similar to what we was talking about earlier.
It's a barrier.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a barrier.
Yeah.
I don't feel close.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like it's a disconnect.
You see what I'm saying?
Hey yo.
It's a disconnect.
No bullshit.
And then it's like, I can't do my best when that barrier is there.
Oh.
Why can't you?
Because if you know what you're doing, you're going to know how to do it.
You're talking about knowing what you're doing.
How do you think Adam and Eve was out here bumping and grinding?
They was innocent.
They was totally pure.
We're not going to do that.
We're going to be rapid fired with these questions.
Hold on.
Let me be perfectly clear though when I talk about this barrier.
You talk about something if you know what you're doing.
This is uncharted territory.
Every woman is different.
You know what I'm saying?
My job is to learn this particular woman that I'm dealing with at this particular time in
this particular space.
If I have more to deal with and go through, you know what I'm saying?
It was already a lot getting here.
You know what I'm saying?
To be in this space, to be able to do what I'm doing right now.
This is a physical manifestation of the work that I put in.
Now I have to rummage through, you know what I'm saying?
No.
Look at that.
Okay.
So you pay attention to a woman's body because you just said that.
Yeah.
1000%.
What are some things that you do?
That make women go crazy.
Yeah, that make women go crazy.
If you could give advice to a man that doesn't know how to fuck, what would be your one?
Eye contact.
Okay.
What else?
Praising.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
My family might be watching this.
It's okay.
Our mamas be watching it too.
It's cool.
When I say praising, I just mean talking.
You give a fuck about this person.
You compliment them.
You look amazing.
Send me the experience.
Bring us into your life.
This nigga.
Okay.
Draw.
Okay.
It's polite.
Yeah.
It's definitely about being polite.
One second.
Has a girl ever acted super crazy over your dick?
Yes.
But to what length?
I got an ex that basically, I mean, she thought I was cheating.
Was you?
No.
Oh.
Damn.
Sorry.
I was just asking.
She thought I was cheating, but I was just exhausted and I let my phone die.
I passed out basically from exhaustion.
I was working on my festival that I do.
This was the second year I was doing it.
I basically just was running on zero sleep.
I was running on nothing and she was supposed to come over.
She thought because I didn't answer the phone that I don't know, something was going on.
She went to my sister crib, convinced her to give her the spare key.
What?
Oh wow.
She came in with the spare key, went up to my room.
And beat the shit out of you.
No, I wasn't in my room.
Oh.
She went up to my room while I was sitting in the living room thinking that somebody
was up there.
I was like, what the fuck is going on with the guys in my room?
She just trashed my room, tore my wardrobe down, and then just stormed out.
This is when it gets juicy.
Oh, okay.
That wasn't the juicy part.
So, not quite.
I'm crying.
Mind you, at this point in time, I didn't know what was going on.
I didn't know she was doing that upstairs or nothing.
Oh, you were still asleep?
I was still basically, I was waking up, so I was getting my bearings together.
She just rushes out my crib.
I'm like, oh man, she's clearly upset.
Let me see what's wrong.
I chase her.
She goes out my crib.
Once we both get outside, I start calling for her like, yo, where you going?
She just started booking it.
Now I'm chasing her down the street.
I get to her car.
I get to her car, and she reaches in her back seat and pulls out a crowbar.
Oh!
Oh shit.
I was like, whoa, how did we get here?
She's like, do you see this?
This is what I was going to do.
I was going to bust your shit up.
I'm like, yo, we could just go in the house and talk.
This is getting somewhere I never expected it to go.
He said, chill.
I would say that's the most... There's been other things that have happened too, but that's
one that-
Okay, but all right.
I feel like you just gave it... Well, the question I asked you prior to that one, I
texted you with some advice you would give to a guy, and you said eye contact, periods,
all that.
But actually, what's a move that you do that drops in your brain?
Oh, man.
If you want to demonstrate it, you can.
Nah, nah.
I don't know.
Not the stroke request.
Or do you not have one?
I mean, I just really, I just try to pay attention, man.
I don't really think it's-
You don't have a signature move?
Every move is different for every woman.
I think it's just my approach that's signature, not necessarily a particular move.
I like to set the tone and set the mood.
It's more of a psychological game with me.
Psychological game?
Yeah.
It's not necessarily like a physical game.
I don't like how that sounded.
That sounds scary.
It might be.
That doesn't sound like a physical game.
It might be, but it doesn't change that it's a good job.
You might be a little scared.
Okay.
Why do you think that men are not able to properly make a woman orgasm?
Because it's an orgasm game.
Yeah, for sure.
Women are not coming.
At all.
I don't really know if it's the men.
I think y'all don't like the men y'all deal with.
I don't know, but I feel like a lot of men are fucking selfish.
They are.
And you like that?
Huh?
You like that?
No.
And you don't like it either, right?
No.
And the men y'all dealt with are selfish.
Yeah, but that's in my prior stage.
Now it's like-
But I'm saying, this is my point.
A lot of women are in what you consider your prior stage.
So if they're not liking the men that they deal with, then what are the chances of-
But we do like them.
We like them as people.
But come on.
You better start holding men accountable.
Y'all are just like-
I'll get y'all nut and then be like-
Well it don't take much for us to nut.
Be caring.
Well, let's just be clear.
It takes more for y'all to nut.
It does.
But we not worth the work?
I be doing squats so I can-
I never said that.
I truly believe y'all worth the work.
I mean-
How often do you have an open dialogue with your partner about how he's not satisfied?
Often.
Does anything change?
At what point in the story do you switch partners?
What do you think you are?
But this is to my point.
This is exactly what I'm saying.
Because I thought y'all was big believers in the business.
If you can't do it, it's somebody who can.
And it is.
There are.
And so why haven't you found him?
But it's like, I don't want that other man.
I mean, we talked about that.
I don't want that other man.
I mean, we're talking about women generally right now.
I want that one.
But you don't want his orgasm then.
It's very sad.
Exactly.
Do you want the orgasm or not, sis?
You could still like the guy.
You talking about the orgasm gap.
What about Rose Quine?
I'm cracking up.
Rose Quine be doing his thing.
From what I hear about your little partner, Rosie, you mean?
Rosie O'Donnelly.
Rosie O'Donnelly, whatever you want to call him.
Did you do the wax on wax off motion?
Whatever, the stuff I be hearing is, it happens quick with Rosie boy.
Anyways, let's get to that.
I mean, on certain-
Oh, now y'all want to change topics, though.
Anyways, yeah.
That's crazy.
We're going to play a game of fuck, marry, kill.
So you got five categories and you can pick three of them.
Okay.
So we got aunties, R&B artists, Instagram baddies, female rappers and actresses.
You got to pick three categories.
I'm definitely going to do aunties.
This nigga is chaotic.
He told me he would fuck Felicia.
Chill, chill, chill.
Felicia Rashad?
I would too.
Chill, bro, chill, bro, chill, chill.
All right, come on, pick your category.
Yeah, of course.
Damn.
First of all, pick your categories.
It was aunties, R&B singers, Instagram baddies, female rappers, actresses, and actresses.
I'm definitely going to do aunties.
And then what was the other one?
This nigga is chaotic.
He told me he would fuck Felicia.
Chill, chill, chill, y'all.
Felicia Rashad?
I would too.
So pick your categories, aunties, R&B singers, Instagram baddies, female rappers, and actresses.
Aunties, actresses, and...
Aunties, R&B artists, Instagram baddies, female rappers, and actresses.
R&B artists, aunties, actresses, and R&B artists.
Okay, aunties, you got Taraji, Nia Long, and Angela Bassett.
Fuck Mary Koo.
I'm fucking Taraji.
Okay.
I'm marrying Nia.
Good job.
You're gonna kill Angela Bassett?
That is disrespectful.
But it's cool.
It's cool.
Go ahead.
Mary Angela.
Yes.
Black Nia killed Taraji.
That's the Black King right there.
You're gonna kill Taraji P. Henson?
Bro, did you not hear the part where she said Angela Bassett?
I did hear that.
Okay.
He don't give a fuck.
Damn.
I do.
I really do.
I do.
So what category did you pick?
What other one did you pick?
R&B artists.
All right.
I'm gonna kill Jasmine Sullivan and Victoria Monet.
Fuck Mary Koo.
I'm marrying Jasmine.
As you should.
It was Ari Lennox and-
And Victoria Monet.
Jasmine Sullivan and Victoria Monet.
Fucking Jasmine and Victoria got it done.
No, I'm fucking Victoria Monet and I'm killing Ari.
I love you Ari, but I'm-
You're gonna kill Ari?
I am.
Why are you killing Ari?
Why?
Because she's not gonna be nearly as nasty as Victoria Monet.
Maybe it's because you turned that out of her.
Why would I need to bring it out of her?
Because it's a psychological game.
Oh, he used it.
I'm playing, but she's not even-
You think this nigga nice.
She's not even playing at my-
Ari Lennox not even playing at my level.
You tripping.
I wanna play with somebody that can play at my level, bro.
Somebody that can play checkers can graduate the chess with the proper promise.
Why am I wasting my time with somebody that needs to graduate when I can-
When you can already have the-
I'm not feeling nobody cut, bro.
My cup not even full yet.
Ari Lennox nasty too.
She is.
But not like Victoria.
Very nasty.
She's not even playing at my level.
I'm not feeling nobody cut, bro.
My cup not even full yet.
Ari Lennox nasty too.
She is.
But not like Victoria.
Not like Victoria.
Have you heard Jaguar?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
You really don't wanna taste no shea butter, baby.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that's insane.
Nigga, I'm a shea butter baby.
I know that's motherfucking right.
What the fuck is you talking about?
All right.
I'm the prize.
I'm the prize?
I'm the catch.
The last category left is Instagram baddies and female rappers and actresses.
What did you want out of that one?
Actresses.
Okay.
Holly Belly from Chloe X Holly.
Kiki Palmer and Coco Jones.
Now you've gotten me in a predicament.
I'm in a pinch.
You said Kiki Palmer, Holly Belly and Coco Jones.
Holly Belly from Chloe X Holly.
The problem is I've had a crush on all three of them at different stages in my life.
That's really what the problem is here.
We can get this out of the way.
I'm never going to kill Kiki Palmer.
Yes.
I'm marrying Kiki Palmer.
As you should.
That's my business.
Get a twin.
Everyone calls.
Coco Jones kills Holly.
I know Coco Jones does get in a fight.
This is where it gets hard though, I'm going to be honest.
That's easy for you, but for me.
You don't have no biases, no natural bias?
I just don't want to kill Holly.
She don't deserve that.
I know.
I'm a killer though.
I'm going to fuck Coco.
I'm sorry Holly.
When we meet later, I apologize in person.
When we meet later.
That wraps up everything.
We did get you a gift because I want... What?
Yes.
That's fire.
Get out.
This is amazing.
Just rap for the audience.
I knew this was a good idea.
Can I unwrap it now?
Yes.
I knew this was a good idea to come on this podcast, but I didn't know this was... You
know what I'm saying?
Look, my guests, they going to get treated like crazy.
This is insane.
I did my research.
No, this is crazy.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh shit.
My damn.
I don't know if you got a record player or not, but...
Now I'm going to get one.
This is literally...
I do my research on my guests.
I got my ways.
That'll be your next guest?
You can't.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Lauren Hill is one of the only artists that's ever made me cry listening to her.
I'm saying this is actually...
Wow.
Hold it up.
Say cheese, mama.
No, this is actually one of the best gifts I've ever gotten.
This is legit.
This is super thorough.
Yeah.
I'm like, I do my research on my guests.
Y'all get hugs.
This is crazy.
You knew about this?
You was in on this?
Wow.
Yes.
Y'all different, man.
Wow.
I can't believe this.
No, I'm really in... This is genuine.
I can't believe this.
Man, your eyes getting red.
That's crazy.
17 emotions, black.
I listen to this album regularly just to keep me inspired.
Insane.
But I would go as far as to say, when I was writing my album, I felt like I wanted it
to be like this from a male perspective.
I get that.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, this is insane.
I'm Ebi Waleishige.
Thank you for coming on.
What research did you do?
You time traveled.
I have my ways.
I'm a crazy bitch.
I have my ways.
This right here, man.
But that wraps up everything.
I really want to thank you for coming on.
I really appreciate it.
You're like my first actual guest.
Man.
I really appreciate it.
I feel like it fit to have you on here.
This is such an honor, man.
And I really fuck with Freddie.
Woo.
Yeah, Fred.
And thank y'all for coming to support him.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you, y'all.
Bye.
Bye, y'all.
Thank y'all, man.
Wow.
This is great.
I'm not the best buff this year.