1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,520 Hey y'all, we back with another episode of Hosting Black Girl. 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:08,460 So I'm your host Kamri and I have my co-host Kaila with me today. 3 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:10,840 And we also have a guest, Freddie Foulet. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,040 He's a musician, writer, producer, CEO. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,040 So he's here with us today. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,040 But, yes, let's clap. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,040 Woo! 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:24,400 But first, I want to start off, I want to do like a mental health check. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,400 I ain't gonna go first. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Okay, I guess, this is just for today, because I'm being really dramatic right now, but 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,360 I am so heartbroken. 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Damn, you didn't start over too. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,360 But it's okay. 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,360 Okay. 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Because fuck it, we ball. 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Like I say, every episode. 17 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,360 We do ball. 18 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Yes. 19 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,360 I feel like you've had some positives. 20 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Oh yeah, I'm alive, I'm here. 21 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:52,760 And also, I was just talking to my mom about this. 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,840 For the past, I guess, couple months, I've just been feeling so much love. 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,200 I'm so loved and I just appreciate everyone that's here with me. 24 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Shout out to y'all. 25 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,200 I thought the same way. 26 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,200 Because you deserve it. 27 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,200 It's tough. 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Yes, theory. 29 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,200 I do. 30 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,200 I do. 31 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,320 But I spent a lot of time being super ungrateful, but glory be to God, y'all. 32 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:14,320 I can relate to that. 33 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:17,320 I feel like I'm currently in a state of confusion. 34 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:20,200 I'm in a state of confusion. 35 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,880 I said this the last episode, but I don't know what the fuck is going on. 36 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,880 I'm 23. 37 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,560 I'll be 24 in four months. 38 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,240 And I'm still figuring life out. 39 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,040 So I'm a little confused right now with life and how it's going, but I'm just going to 40 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,680 trust that I'm on the right path. 41 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,120 But I feel the same way as Kayla. 42 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,280 I feel like I've been surrounded by so much love lately. 43 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,640 I had a few falling outs, but ultimately- 44 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Fuck them bitches. 45 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Ultimately, though, life is going great. 46 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,800 So you want to go, Freddie? 47 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,920 I'm in good spirits. 48 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,920 It's a good day. 49 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,160 I had a good night. 50 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,080 I didn't get much sleep, but we here. 51 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,160 I'm happy to be here. 52 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,160 Thanks for having me, y'all. 53 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,160 It's a good vibe. 54 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,160 This is my first podcast. 55 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,360 It's like podcast virginity. 56 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Getting snatched up. 57 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,360 Damn. 58 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,760 I'm actually happy he came on. 59 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,840 I'm very happy he came on. 60 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,520 I was super nervous to have Freddie come on this podcast because I feel like you are very 61 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,520 intense. 62 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,080 I've heard that. 63 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,440 I have heard that. 64 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,600 I was nervous to tell him everything got to be perfect. 65 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Period. 66 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,640 He ain't about to give me no criticism on this shit. 67 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:27,880 I ain't going to criticize. 68 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,360 I think that's one thing people know about me. 69 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,280 If I have something critical to say, I'm going to say this shit. 70 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,800 I mean, that's just how I am. 71 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,800 It's all out of love, though. 72 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,800 For sure. 73 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,800 It always be loving. 74 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,400 I feel like I never come off... I try not to come off condescending. 75 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,360 I feel like some people might think I do. 76 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,640 I feel like you called me pretentious one time. 77 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:49,640 She sure did. 78 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:52,200 I'm going to be honest. 79 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,600 I'd rather be pretentious than trash at something. 80 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,600 I know that's not pretentious. 81 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,040 No, I don't think you're pretentious. 82 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:03,880 I think sometimes, and the thing is you say you come off as pretentious. 83 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Even if I am pretentious, that's okay. 84 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,600 I'm not mad. 85 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,600 He said, I am who I am. 86 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Be who you are. 87 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,600 It's like that spice you got. 88 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,600 You know what I'm saying? 89 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Yeah. 90 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,320 But it's like you be neat in it sometimes. 91 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,320 You really do. 92 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,960 My last podcast episode, he had some... 93 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,960 He ripped her to shreds. 94 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,960 And then I ain't... Yo, bitch. 95 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Damn. 96 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,960 I said, fuck. 97 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,960 What the fuck is that? 98 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,960 Yo, I literally... 99 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,960 I didn't even think it was that bad. 100 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,960 I was reading it. 101 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,960 I said, damn. 102 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,960 It was bad. 103 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,960 No, no. 104 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,960 I listened to his... Because he sent me a voice message. 105 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,960 I listened to it, and I was like... 106 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,960 She sent you a voice message. 107 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,960 Chill, chill, chill. 108 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:34,960 I was about to cry. 109 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,960 I ain't even going to lie. 110 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:36,960 She texted the group chat. 111 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,960 She was like, did you see what Freddy... 112 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,960 I was like, did you see what Freddy... 113 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,960 I was like, did you see what Freddy... 114 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,960 I was like, did you see what Freddy... 115 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:47,960 I was like, did you see what Freddy... 116 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,960 I can't even lie to you. 117 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,960 I was like... 118 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Some bitches was like, well, you do got a point. 119 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,960 I was like, damn, nigga. 120 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:52,960 You don't even know. 121 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:53,960 This is our first day out here. 122 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:54,960 We all know what the hell we doing. 123 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,960 It was your second. 124 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,960 But... 125 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Okay. 126 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:58,960 Relax. 127 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Relax. 128 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Technically, it was the first, because the first one was a pilot. 129 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:01,960 We wasn't even sure if it was going... 130 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,960 Be what it is. 131 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,960 Fuck out of here. 132 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,960 No, I'm just being... I'm just being... 133 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,160 But you know, you be needing that kind of stuff sometimes from people. 134 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Get you some niggas around you that want you to fucking succeed. 135 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,320 I'm saying that's really all it comes from. 136 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,240 And I can tell he was saying that out of like just... 137 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Care. 138 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,240 Genuine care. 139 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 140 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,240 And just being genuine. 141 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,240 We had a moment like that last night. 142 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Yeah, definitely. 143 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,240 It seems like y'all have a lot of moments. 144 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Y'all was about to say that too. 145 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Yeah, I mean... 146 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,240 We're a very honest group. 147 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Really? 148 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,240 But that's... Remember the story with D, because he asked me to meet with all our friends 149 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,240 in the A band. 150 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Fred and we all like six four, we all work out. 151 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Obviously, Fred doesn't. 152 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,240 You know what I mean? 153 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,240 He's like, I'm not going to do that. 154 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,240 I'm not going to do that. 155 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:41,240 That's not my niche. 156 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,240 You feel what I'm saying? 157 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,240 He works with the gym. 158 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,240 You know what I'm saying? 159 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,240 So every two to six months, like... 160 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,480 I mean, there are spans where I'm really in there locked in. 161 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,120 We did a six to eight month span where I was just in the gym four days a week. 162 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,120 You know what I mean? 163 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,120 For real? 164 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,120 Yeah. 165 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,520 I was like, I'm trying to quantify it. 166 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 He's doing it with tits. 167 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,520 He's confident. 168 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,520 You know what I'm saying? 169 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,520 The energy he brings is... 170 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,520 He that nigga. 171 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,520 I said, tell you what, I'm about to call him and you can talk to him. 172 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Give it like 10 minutes, right? 173 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Verbatim. 174 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,520 I still got to text her to prove it. 175 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,520 Five minutes later, she calls me and was like, I get it. 176 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,520 I'd fuck him. 177 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,520 I'll crack it up. 178 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,520 I get it. 179 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,520 He was so intensely... 180 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 181 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Freddie Duff got good energy. 182 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,520 When I saw him, I was like, I'm going to fuck him. 183 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,520 I'm going to fuck him. 184 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,520 I'm going to fuck him. 185 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,520 I'm going to fuck him. 186 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,520 I'm going to fuck him. 187 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 188 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:31,280 Freddie Duff got good energy. 189 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:34,520 When I saw him perform last night, because we went to a makeshift to see him perform 190 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,360 and they kept fucking up. 191 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,360 Damn. 192 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,240 When I saw his face, I said, yeah, he irritated. 193 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Who was that guy's name? 194 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,400 His name is his fucking number. 195 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,560 I can't even remember what his name was, bro, but to be honest, no disrespect, but it don't 196 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,560 matter because... 197 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,560 Okay, DJ, fuck up. 198 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Yeah. 199 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,600 When you fucking up like that, your name really don't matter, bro. 200 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,000 But he got that shit together, so shout out to him for getting that shit together at the 201 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 end of the day. 202 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 But keep it together, baby. 203 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,640 But he had... Back to my point, he had very good energy performing. 204 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,120 It was a lot of artists that was really good last night, but I really like Freddie's energy. 205 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,360 You had really great crowd interaction, all that shit. 206 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,360 Thank you. 207 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,360 But I do want to get into your album. 208 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,360 Yes, let's do it. 209 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,360 This album. 210 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Will of Fortune. 211 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Will of Fortune. 212 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,880 So I feel like when I first heard that album, I feel like I was drawn to it a lot because 213 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,440 it was during a time period where I was getting into journaling and writing down information 214 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,440 and stuff like that. 215 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,680 And I feel like in your album, there's a few information in there. 216 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,760 I hear it a lot. 217 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,920 And I feel like the themes that I get from it, like self growth, self preservation, I 218 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,880 just get those kind of themes. 219 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,880 So I just want to ask you, what sparked you wanting to create Will of Fortune? 220 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Actually, before you answer that, tell me the background on the title of your album. 221 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,560 It's Will of Fortune, not Will. 222 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Will. 223 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,560 Yeah, not like Will. 224 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,560 But yeah, Will. 225 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,840 So, all right, so when I was... I was just making music, you know what I'm saying? 226 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,760 Doing what I love to do. 227 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,200 And at a certain point, I just had a collection of songs that I didn't really know what to 228 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,720 do with. 229 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,360 And that's what kind of put me on the track, like, okay, this can be an album if I do it 230 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,560 right. 231 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:33,560 And so I just started thinking, for me, I like to bring nostalgia, if that makes sense. 232 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,480 That's just the aesthetic that I like to bring. 233 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,800 I like to make people feel like they know what I'm talking about already or the themes 234 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,800 in it. 235 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:46,920 I want them to feel familiar, especially me knowing that I'm an artist that I'm still 236 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,920 very obscure. 237 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Like, I haven't broken through the mainstream mode yet. 238 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Underground or independent, like a lot of people say. 239 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:00,200 But I like to say obscure because you can be independent or underground and still have 240 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,200 a real great following. 241 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,200 You know what I'm saying? 242 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:08,040 So when I thought about that, being somebody that not a lot of people know, I'm like, well, 243 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,720 the themes in the album should be familiar so at least they can connect to something. 244 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,840 And so when I was just listening to the music that I was making, it felt, like you said, 245 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,120 self preservation, affirmations and stuff like that. 246 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:28,560 And it just made me feel like it was centered around what words or themes, like I said, 247 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,320 are the main parts of this project. 248 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,800 And willpower is one of them. 249 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,480 So I was like, will. 250 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,200 And I was like, okay, I like to play on words a lot. 251 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,440 As a lyricist, I feel like that just comes with the territory. 252 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,120 So I just kind of played on will of fortune. 253 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,160 But I made it like, I added nuance. 254 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:52,200 So I took something that most people already know, a concept people already know. 255 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,240 And it's like, even like you could be a couple decades older than me. 256 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,620 You could be 40, 50, 60. 257 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:02,160 You know about the show Will of Fortune. 258 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,840 You may not have seen it in your lifetime, but you've heard about it at least. 259 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:13,400 So I felt like if I could add nuance to something that people already knew a lot about and not 260 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:19,400 even just a small group of people, like a vast group of people, and make it feel good, 261 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,080 then I would be doing something right. 262 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,360 So that's how I took the approach to the title. 263 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,360 I feel you. 264 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,360 I feel you. 265 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,360 But I mean, I feel like you kind of just answered both questions at the same time. 266 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Can I ask you one? 267 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,360 Yeah. 268 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,360 I thought I wanted to work with you about this. 269 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Yeah, it's cool. 270 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,360 So when you first played this, I think Will was the first song. 271 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Will's kind of feels different to make a song that's an album that feels more like a girl 272 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,360 music. 273 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,360 I was about to say that. 274 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,360 I told him that before. 275 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,360 It feels like a really vulnerable song. 276 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Yeah. 277 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,360 I remember the first version of that, you had edited some parts out. 278 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,360 The first version was you said something along the lines, talking about the process of your 279 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,360 studio, your co-workers, they're alone. 280 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,360 It just kind of feels like a vulnerable and expectant of your mind at that point. 281 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Some of those parts were cut from that specific song like in the beginning, right? 282 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:12,360 And the rest of the song, while the album is 100% vulnerable, I feel like Will's feels 283 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,360 more like a first person narrative compared to the rest of the album. 284 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,360 It's like you're narrating the world for it. 285 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,360 Whereas in Will's, we're stepping into like- 286 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Your mind. 287 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,360 Yeah. 288 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:31,360 So I was wondering, is there some anxiety about breaking down those walls like two vulnerabilities 289 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,360 that you cut it short at Will and change your perspective as the album went on? 290 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,360 You had to work through that. 291 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,360 Or is that like a separate process? 292 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,360 It's definitely like a separate process. 293 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:47,360 I need to be able to do those things where it's like I just give you what's in my mind 294 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:53,360 strictly with no filter for real, for real, in order to tell my story. 295 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,360 You know what I'm saying? 296 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:00,360 But I feel like in order to engage your audience, you also have to be able to speak from a different 297 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,360 perspective. 298 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,360 From their perspective. 299 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,360 You know what I'm saying? 300 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Because a lot of my music is very, very personal. 301 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,360 So when I'm creating music, it's like, okay, how do I connect with this audience the best? 302 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,360 So it's like I can't consistently, to me I feel like if I'm consistently talking from 303 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,360 my perspective the whole time, I get a disconnect. 304 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,360 And I never really want to be so far disconnected from the audience that I'm not relatable. 305 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,360 They can't feel it. 306 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,360 They can't feel it. 307 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,360 You know what I mean? 308 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,360 So I try to balance that. 309 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,360 You know what I mean? 310 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,360 I feel like all of my music almost starts off from just that first person perspective. 311 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:39,360 And then I have to develop it over time through different editing processes. 312 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,360 A lot of my songs go through multiple different versions. 313 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:49,360 I know a lot of people, a lot of artists might just go in the studio and record a bunch of 314 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,360 songs. 315 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,360 You might go in a session and do 12 songs or something like that. 316 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,360 I've seen people do a whole mix tapes in a session before. 317 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,360 But I'm typically not in that space. 318 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,360 But I'll rework one song five times. 319 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,360 You know what I mean? 320 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,360 It'll have, it'll sound like a different song every time. 321 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,360 So that's just my process. 322 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,360 So yeah, it's definitely separate but it still connects. 323 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,360 It's a process literally. 324 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,360 It starts from this stage and then it goes to a middle space where it's like, all right, 325 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,360 now I'm kind of like, it's introspective but it's also forward for the audience. 326 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,360 And then it finally gets to that last space where it's like, it's personal but somebody 327 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,360 could sing this and still feel like I'm singing it. 328 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,360 It's their situation. 329 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,360 It still feels like it's they song. 330 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,360 And I want all my stuff to feel like it's your song at the end of the day. 331 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Like yo, when he wrote this, he was thinking about me. 332 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,360 You know what I mean? 333 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Right, right, right. 334 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,360 That's what just made the switch up. 335 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,360 It's kind of like a maleist of a proposal. 336 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,360 Like I said, First Person Heritage is my favorite type of book. 337 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,360 It's like you really feel like you're the main character. 338 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,360 Or it's like eyeing and such as a proposal and dressing up proud with the song. 339 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,360 But it feels like you being a person versus you hanging out with the person. 340 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,360 You hit all the notes on that one. 341 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,360 It was that down. 342 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,360 He definitely did. 343 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Like when I first, I don't want to say that Freddie responsible for my podcast but just 344 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,360 a little bit. 345 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Because when I first heard it, I think I already told him that. 346 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,360 When I first heard it though, I was like at work and I was listening to what he was saying. 347 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,360 I'm like damn, I need to get off my ass. 348 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,360 For real? 349 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,360 I was like damn. 350 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 I said I need to get this fucking podcast rolling. 351 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,360 Because people was telling me for like months, like you need to start this podcast. 352 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,360 And I wasn't doing it because I was scared. 353 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,360 And then when I listened to that album, I'm like yeah. 354 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,360 I was really in go mode. 355 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,360 That's tough. 356 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,360 I can't even lie about it. 357 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360 We both like locked in too. 358 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,360 It was kind of just like we really got some shit here. 359 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Even like me with my personal life, like you know, I'm a college graduate. 360 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,360 I have my bachelor's degree. 361 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,360 Thank you. 362 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Graduated early in everything y'all. 363 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Super fire. 364 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Different. 365 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,360 But I'm fashion merchandising. 366 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Alright. 367 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,360 Okay, it's a couple fashion, you know what I mean? 368 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,360 Fashion folks in this room. 369 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:10,360 My thing was like I always said that I was going to build on whatever my mom made. 370 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,360 She has her, she has graduate degrees too. 371 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,360 And I was like okay, so like now I got to up it. 372 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,360 But I was dragging my feet because I'm like I know what I want to go to school for. 373 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:32,360 But you know, black parents, black collegiate parents have like very strict goals on what 374 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,360 they want for their kids. 375 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,360 Black collegiate parents are separate. 376 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,360 Yeah. 377 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:44,360 You are in a family that can be considered like affluent. 378 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,360 There's a lot of pressure on you to be that. 379 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:53,360 And because I'm so creative and she just never got it, and I'm like I want to get my master's, 380 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,360 but I want to get it in something that's like more geared towards like art. 381 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,360 Yeah, like what you want to do. 382 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,360 I mean the whole reason why I got the fashion degree in the first place was because like 383 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,360 that was our compromise because I was actually wanted to go to school for dance. 384 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,360 But she was like you ain't going to make no money. 385 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,360 I feel like people don't really understand. 386 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,360 And I'm guilty of it too. 387 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:20,360 I feel like it has to do with like why I didn't start making art on my own sooner. 388 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,360 But like when I just know when I was growing up, the entertainment industry generally just 389 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:31,360 seemed like you had to either be like really lucky or like really rich. 390 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,360 And that's it. 391 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,360 I didn't see how regular people got into the industry at all. 392 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:42,360 But like I feel like that's why rap ended up being like my catalyst for my creativity 393 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,360 and I put my art out because I was able to see how you could see how rappers were building 394 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,360 their careers, especially like mixtape era, like you know, battle rap era, you know what 395 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,360 I'm saying, battle rap and then like the blogs and shit like that, Tumblr, all that shit. 396 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Like they were literally, they were documenting everything so you knew like, okay, he was 397 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 doing this before he got signed and da da da da. 398 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Yeah, that's a prime example. 399 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,360 Like all of those, all of the like stars that we have now, Nicki, Drake, Cole, even The Weeknd, 400 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,360 like for somebody that's so like mysterious, like you didn't even know what he looked like 401 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,360 for like the first, you know what I'm saying? 402 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,360 But you still could like trace the story and even now it's like well documented. 403 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,360 But that's what really got me into like, okay, I could do this if I really want to. 404 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Because I've always been in music and art. 405 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,360 So the first time I performed I was probably like three. 406 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,360 Yeah. 407 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Because my mom was an artist. 408 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:43,360 Like my mom is, she writes and she does screenplays and regular plays, you know what I'm saying? 409 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Like she's, and she directs and stuff. 410 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,360 She has two books out. 411 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,360 Shout out to her. 412 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,360 She's pretty decent. 413 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Shout out to you mom. 414 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Yeah. 415 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,360 But yeah, so she always had us like doing stuff. 416 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,360 Like my sister was in school for fashion. 417 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,360 She went to drug school. 418 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,360 My oldest sister. 419 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,360 I got three sisters. 420 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,360 And you know. 421 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,360 Are you the baby? 422 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:05,360 Yeah, I'm the youngest. 423 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,360 Wow. 424 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:07,360 You probably act just like my dad. 425 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:08,360 No, I'm a boy. 426 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:09,360 Boy. 427 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:11,360 I don't know what to say about that. 428 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,360 I'm just like that. 429 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:20,360 Boys that were raised by women and they were, then they were the baby are the most spoiled brats. 430 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:21,360 My sisters love to say that. 431 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:22,360 Shout out to y'all too. 432 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:23,360 I really feel like you probably. 433 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:26,360 You definitely say you spoiled. 434 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:27,360 I know you're spoiled. 435 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:28,360 And I could care less. 436 00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:29,360 And that's what I'm talking about. 437 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:30,360 But. 438 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:31,360 But. 439 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:32,360 I mean. 440 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:39,360 You give, the thing is I'm an only child. 441 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,360 So like we have the same energy. 442 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:42,360 Okay. 443 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:43,360 When it comes to that type. 444 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:48,360 Like the babies and the onlies are the ones that like move like the world belongs to them. 445 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,360 And that's why we be getting the shit that we want. 446 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:54,360 So maybe if you take some risks. 447 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:57,360 Take some risks. 448 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:58,360 But yeah. 449 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:02,360 Cause the world does revolve around you because it's your world. 450 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,360 These niggas just living in it. 451 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,360 I like that. 452 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,360 Yeah. 453 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:07,360 It's your simulation. 454 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:08,360 You mean. 455 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,360 Whatever you're doing in your simulation, that's what you're supposed to be doing. 456 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:12,360 Exactly. 457 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:19,360 I never, that. 458 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:27,360 We was kings. 459 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:33,360 We was kings. 460 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:34,360 I cannot stand Hoteps. 461 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:35,360 I can't stand Hoteps niggas either. 462 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:36,360 Hoteps be saying. 463 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:37,360 Chill. 464 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:38,360 I be flipping the letters a lot. 465 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:39,360 You gotta chill. 466 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:40,360 Like you. 467 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:41,360 Damn. 468 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:42,360 You gotta be too close. 469 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:43,360 I'm riddled but I'm folding more. 470 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:44,360 Hoteps be saying anything. 471 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:50,360 Like it don't be no type of critical thinking, but they think that they are. 472 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:51,560 Except Dr. Umar Johnson. 473 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,560 We love you over here. 474 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,560 I fuck with Umar. 475 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,560 I can't lie. 476 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,560 I fuck with Dr. Umar. 477 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,360 He be saying some weird shit sometimes. 478 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,360 He said, you may not bring your white wife. 479 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:01,360 I said yes. 480 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:02,360 I told them that. 481 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:03,360 I'm great. 482 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:04,360 She is not welcome here. 483 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:09,280 When the spotlight on him, he be talking and talk like I've never, like especially whenever 484 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,480 you give him like a platform platform, he does not embarrass the community. 485 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,480 That's how I feel. 486 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,480 He's just so funny. 487 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,160 He say what he need to say like on Breakfast Club and shit like that. 488 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,560 These are bigger platforms that like most people watch. 489 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,560 I mean. 490 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,560 That's true. 491 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,560 I never ever been. 492 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,080 I feel like he be talking that shit on there. 493 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,080 And it be making sense. 494 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Yeah. 495 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Yeah. 496 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,080 It do. 497 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,280 But I'm still going flat iron my hair baby. 498 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,280 I'm sorry. 499 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Amen. 500 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,280 And I'm going to wear my fake lashes. 501 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,280 If it look for real. 502 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,280 So what you got to understand is that like you're seeing the culture from a male perspective. 503 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,280 Right. 504 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,280 And like a lot of males kind of speak for black people entirely. 505 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:50,280 So yeah, I think that like their collective experience is the sum total of that culture. 506 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,280 We can talk about that. 507 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,280 That's a big part of black women culture. 508 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,280 You can't pick that. 509 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,280 It makes it makes it made life easier. 510 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Like let's be really if we're going to be 100 like completely come on. 511 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:12,840 A lot of times assimilation looks different from black men to black women. 512 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,840 For sure. 513 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:20,060 So like it's a little bit easier for black men to assimilate into white culture because 514 00:20:20,060 --> 00:20:24,400 white culture as a whole is male centric. 515 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,860 So if you take the race out of it to be honest y'all on the same y'all on the same level. 516 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:35,800 So if you can just get the rhetoric right be in the right places let yeah yeah like 517 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,040 let the right white man call you a nigga a couple times. 518 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:46,140 Then you are you're set even to the point where you can have access to their women which 519 00:20:46,140 --> 00:20:49,520 is also like a huge status symbol. 520 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,920 And we should talk about that not to cut you off. 521 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,800 But we need to talk about that more because it's like why is that a thing? 522 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,800 You know what I'm saying? 523 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:05,360 I don't it's weird when like it's weird how black men and white women fetishize each other 524 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,960 like that dynamic specifically is a strange one. 525 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,280 Seeing it in real time is nasty. 526 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,320 People are interested in pushing. 527 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Yeah a lot like too much. 528 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,000 I'm a big fan of like I always say like the goofy shit like we should just ignore. 529 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,720 I think Nipsey might have said something like that. 530 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Shout out to Nipsey too RIP Nipsey. 531 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,920 I feel like a lot of shit we let we talk about way too much like we give way too much attention 532 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,240 like if it's so goofy that we all like you know I'm saying most of us be like nah that's 533 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,520 some goofy shit but still tweet about it or still like you know I'm saying have like little 534 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,360 incubator conversations in our friend groups and shit like that and brainstorm about like 535 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,240 why this is or why it isn't but it's like why does it matter? 536 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,240 You know what I'm saying? 537 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Like we should just give shit less energy. 538 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,000 The more energy you give shit like the more it grows. 539 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,960 Like when you pour into yourself you know what I'm saying and the things you believe in and 540 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,200 shit like that you start manifesting that stuff. 541 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:03,720 So it's the same concept like if we pour into like the bullshit and like the weird narratives 542 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,680 or the weird dynamics it's going to grow. 543 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,680 You know what I'm saying? 544 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Like you're going to just hear more about it on a regular basis. 545 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 That's how the algorithms we're picking up on shit like. 546 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:20,000 I got a mixed thought on that because like on one hand I agree but on the other hand 547 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 it's kind of like this black kid died and the mayor was like he could have been like 548 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000 a poor lawyer, he could have been an action hunter, he could have been a regular ass nigga. 549 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 And to be honest that would have been fine too. 550 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000 He would have been alive. 551 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 And that's the thing. 552 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 That's the thing. 553 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,280 How come that's one thing that I've noticed especially about like just media and mass 554 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:42,000 media how come you have to bring up what the person was doing or who he was. 555 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Exactly. 556 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:49,760 All for him to justify or to say that the murder was not justified. 557 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,760 Like you know what I'm saying? 558 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,000 He was, he or she was just a human being. 559 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,360 Is that not enough for him or her to not be alive? 560 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:03,040 Oh because he was down with Ray Ray down the block. 561 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,400 He's like worthless or he was just so happy to have a best friend that sold drugs. 562 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,200 Okay so that makes him a drug dealer and he deserved to die. 563 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Oh he ran into the, like he ran a stop light or something. 564 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,680 We see that all the time yeah. 565 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,680 All the time. 566 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,680 A teacher who just got murdered by cops. 567 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,680 He had a criminal record. 568 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,680 His name was Kenan. 569 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,480 I don't remember his last name but I believe it was Kenan and if I'm wrong. 570 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Sorry I apologize. 571 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:32,120 But it was everywhere and people was just justifying it a whole lot. 572 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:36,120 Like oh well he was, he wasn't, he was resisting or you know what I mean. 573 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,120 But who wouldn't? 574 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,440 He would just do a bunch of times to stay still or da da da da. 575 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,160 But to be honest like when you get, like a lot of people haven't even been put in handcuffs 576 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,160 before right? 577 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,160 Them things hurt. 578 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,920 Or subdued by police especially a group of them. 579 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,240 And it's a lot of people you'd be surprised that haven't even been pulled over. 580 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,840 Like I've been pulled over several times and I remember the anxiety I felt like when the 581 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,360 first cop car pulled up and then the second cop car pulled up and then the third cop car 582 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,360 pulled up. 583 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:04,520 Like why are there so many cops for a regular traffic stop? 584 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,280 And to be honest why am I even getting stopped for headlights or you know what I'm saying? 585 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,680 It'd be little mundane stuff that they just try to like press you for. 586 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,040 And so with that being said like imagine being put in handcuffs being forced to the ground. 587 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,360 Like people barking orders at you. 588 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,600 They holding guns or tasers at you. 589 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Like your anxiety is probably going to be on a thousand. 590 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,520 So to then say to somebody like or to say about somebody. 591 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Yeah don't move. 592 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,520 And then after somebody's dead from being murdered by a cop to say oh well they were 593 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,520 resisting. 594 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,520 My life is in danger. 595 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Why would you resist? 596 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:44,200 The natural reaction innately is to resist you know what I'm saying being in danger. 597 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,320 Like when your life feels threatened what do you think you're going to do? 598 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,360 Like even when you fight if someone were to hit you your actual natural reaction is to 599 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:51,360 hit back. 600 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:52,360 Like come on. 601 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,400 Like it's like that's the natural human thing to do fight or flight. 602 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,560 You wouldn't call it that if it wasn't a thing. 603 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,720 That's why I feel like in times where like we're experiencing like the least brutality 604 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,720 and stuff like that. 605 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,840 I feel like just having a community is so important. 606 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,840 It is. 607 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Sisterhood is important. 608 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,840 Brotherhood is important. 609 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,840 Family is important. 610 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,560 And I feel like you kind of touched on that in For My Dogs. 611 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,560 That's my shit. 612 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,560 I feel like you kind of touched on that. 613 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,160 We ain't Kella we just talking about this but we were saying how you know how usually 614 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,600 when musicians they make music about well male musicians they make music about friendships 615 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,520 they be like oh I'm a ride for my nigga. 616 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,680 Yours was more so like sentimental. 617 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,600 It was like very vulnerable to me like in a way that I haven't heard it before. 618 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,600 You know what it reminded me of? 619 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,440 I get around about two o'clock when they just showed up at his house. 620 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,440 Yeah. 621 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,520 Was that intentional though for you to do that one? 622 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,280 I mean I remember like when I first got the spark for that song. 623 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,840 The sample was Donny McClurkin. 624 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,880 I did not mention the sample. 625 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,360 I am a church lady girl. 626 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:05,600 I am a God fearing woman. 627 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,480 So I heard it and I was like yes. 628 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,840 So once we did that we were shocked that no one sampled it before. 629 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:17,560 I haven't never heard nobody sample that record and it's just like such a beautiful record. 630 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:24,320 So once we got that and I just listened to it and got into it for a while. 631 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,680 When I was writing that album I only wanted to write things that I felt were very important 632 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:36,440 to me because it was about giving myself, giving a portion of myself with my art form. 633 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,480 So I'm like one of the most important things is friendship. 634 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,200 As far as what I consider essentials to life and I talk about that throughout the album 635 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,760 is like good friends is important. 636 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,760 That's your creative family. 637 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,760 Yeah. 638 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,760 You know what I mean? 639 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,680 I wanted to talk about it from my perspective and just what I feel like being a good friend 640 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:03,800 is about because the society we in now, this era we have is very superficial and just surface 641 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,760 level so to speak because everything is so fast. 642 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,600 Things happen so fast now. 643 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,160 The way we build relationships are different than they used to be where everything was 644 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,160 like you had to literally be in front of that person. 645 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,160 Write letters. 646 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,160 Call on a house phone. 647 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Only call on a house phone, no cell phone. 648 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,840 So the timing in which you could interact with people was just different. 649 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,040 Now we have social media. 650 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,480 You can FaceTime somebody on Instagram. 651 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,480 You don't even got to have a number. 652 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,480 That's a lot of access to people. 653 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,320 You get so much more access so it's like you think you know people but it's like you don't. 654 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,440 And then just generally the worth of what being a friend means, the things that really 655 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,200 go into friendship I feel like are diluted. 656 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:59,680 So you know I've been to therapy a few times and all that. 657 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,680 Just throwing it out there. 658 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,680 I went to two sessions. 659 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,000 I went to more sessions than that but my point being is like. 660 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000 You would think you went to two though. 661 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000 Chill, chill, chill. 662 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Hours after therapy, yeah bro so I'm thinking of doing this. 663 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 I was like that shit needs taking this. 664 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,560 I guess that's that alternative aim for things. 665 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,560 I'll still be ready. 666 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,520 It's not sticking at all. 667 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,640 He said she told me no but I'm going to do it anyway. 668 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,640 That be me. 669 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,240 That's why I'll be telling my therapist all the truth. 670 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,240 If you watching this Miss Cam, I'm so sorry. 671 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,240 Therapist, they be. 672 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,920 I'll be like I'm never going to do this again and do it right after. 673 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,840 Do you hold your friends accountable though? 674 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,840 Yeah, we can get into that but let me just finish this point. 675 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,200 So to answer your question, yes it was very intentional. 676 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,080 I was just trying to talk about things that I felt like was important and shed light on 677 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:57,000 the aspects of friendship that I feel like aren't talked about a lot. 678 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:05,160 What really having, really knowing a person, really being there for a person. 679 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Beyond romantic relationships, I feel like you have different kinds of love and there's 680 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,000 a strong love that we don't really dive into in music when it comes to friendship beyond 681 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,880 like when you out with your friends and shit like that. 682 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Life be feeling worth living. 683 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,760 For my dogs, it's definitely about that too but it's also about like it just goes deeper. 684 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,560 I wanted to reach in and go to a different level of it. 685 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,160 When you said something in there about we don't got to talk every day. 686 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,600 Yeah, we don't fall off. 687 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,600 We don't fall out. 688 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,600 Yeah, I'm like I'm diggity. 689 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,600 We just follow up and then we ball out. 690 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,600 But that's the thing. 691 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,160 I think especially with female friendships, they want so much access to you. 692 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:53,000 They want endless access to the point where I'm just like. 693 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 You can get burnt out. 694 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000 You know what I'm saying? 695 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 You can get burnt out in friendships too. 696 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 I just need something. 697 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:06,680 But exactly like and so what? 698 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,480 Because everyone has different relationships. 699 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360 I talk to one friend, Toy. 700 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,360 Shout out to Toy. 701 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Love you, babe. 702 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,920 I talk to her like every day but me and Cam, we don't always talk every day. 703 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,840 We've been talking more because we're doing this together. 704 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:26,120 I really feel like this generation has normalized being super attached and clingy to people. 705 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,120 Because even- 706 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,120 It's the entitlement. 707 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,120 It's co-dependency. 708 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,120 Co-dependency. 709 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Even in some of my previous friendships or even just people that I deal with in general, 710 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,640 they would take it personally if I didn't text them every single day. 711 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,360 And it's like I'm just personally, I'm not that type of person. 712 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880 I really value being alone. 713 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,920 I really value just sitting by myself and just figuring myself out. 714 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,160 I don't want to talk to people after that. 715 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,160 But to be honest, niggas don't like themselves. 716 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,160 That's another thing. 717 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,720 Niggas don't like themselves. 718 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,720 Let me tell you something. 719 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,120 They like who they are around here. 720 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Yeah, but that's them feeding off and that's what I realized about a lot of people that 721 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,480 were in my life is that they fucked with how I made them feel. 722 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,480 But if you can't make yourself feel worth it by yourself, then there's an issue. 723 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,920 Yeah, you got work to do. 724 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,000 You really do have work to do. 725 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,000 It's that shadow work. 726 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000 For real. 727 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000 We're doing that shadow work. 728 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,380 And the real thing is, it's like people will leech off of energy. 729 00:31:18,380 --> 00:31:24,440 They will try to drain you as much as possible because they don't have anything to give. 730 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,480 They're like completely empty vessels. 731 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,280 So when you come full and whole, they try to take your stuff. 732 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,080 I read this while I'm reading this book. 733 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,040 It's like an infinite book. 734 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,200 It's like, it reminds me of the Bible. 735 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,200 You said I read some of my wife's books. 736 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,880 But yeah, this book is like- 737 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,880 Benjamin Franklin out here like- 738 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880 Little crutches for pot. 739 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Listen. 740 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Looking up from hell like, read? 741 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,880 Niggas read? 742 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,880 Rolling in his grave. 743 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,880 No! 744 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,880 That's the first nigga I keep flying that bitch over for life. 745 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880 Nigga getting shocked infinitely. 746 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,880 Y'all, I want to touch on one of his songs. 747 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Benjamin Franklin? 748 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,880 No, no. 749 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,600 Benjamin Franklin made beauty. 750 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,880 I'm kind of shifting the conversation a little bit. 751 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,880 They did say he was a jack of all trades. 752 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880 I'm shifting the conversation a little bit. 753 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,880 But I want to talk about Burning Me Out. 754 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:23,000 I feel like that song is so on brand Philly nigga song. 755 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,000 He was like, I ain't your little baby. 756 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,000 I ain't your little boo sis. 757 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000 That killed me. 758 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000 That killed me. 759 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:34,800 But it's like, I fuck with it because he's basically just saying, I just want to fuck 760 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,800 you. 761 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,800 I mean, yeah. 762 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,800 But it's like, it's layers to that though. 763 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,800 You feel what I'm saying? 764 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800 You took them off for the song. 765 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,560 Yeah, it's layers to that too. 766 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,440 But no, we can talk about that. 767 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,440 I don't mind. 768 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,440 That's it. 769 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,000 I just got a quick question. 770 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,200 What he said, was that that song? 771 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,280 That he said something about sending the girl to the third dimension. 772 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,280 What's that? 773 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,280 Oh, that's the French's. 774 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,280 That's the French's. 775 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,280 Yeah. 776 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,200 I have a question about that. 777 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,640 Do you really think that's how that went? 778 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,840 If you want my honest opinion. 779 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,840 Yes. 780 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,840 Yes. 781 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,280 Yes, that's how Imagine it went. 782 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,280 Imagine. 783 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,280 Imagine. 784 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,680 You see how he, words mean things. 785 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,880 It's like, no, I just feel like, yeah, I'm going to keep it at being. 786 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160 I do feel like it went that way. 787 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,600 Imagination, but also in reality, the vibes was just giving it. 788 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,560 It felt like you're not the same person anymore. 789 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560 I'm breaking up. 790 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,760 You're not who you used to be. 791 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,760 Yes. 792 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,760 You're different. 793 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,760 Somehow. 794 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,760 All 2023, I'm moving like that. 795 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,360 I'm just saying, somebody else might do that too. 796 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,200 He was like, and burning me out, he was like, legs tremble from a faint touch. 797 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,440 I was like, damn, you really got it like that? 798 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440 I've experienced it. 799 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,600 I'm only just talking about what I've experienced. 800 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,480 Again, that might happen with somebody else too, but I'm just talking about what happens 801 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,480 with me. 802 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,480 I know that. 803 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,480 You know what I'm saying? 804 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,560 When I'm in the mix with it, that's how it be. 805 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,040 So I'm going to speak on that. 806 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Okay. 807 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,200 Do you feel like men are, because it was like a conversation on Twitter and they were saying 808 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,920 how you can be honest, but it's a way to approach it. 809 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Why do you feel like men are such dickheads when it comes to honesty? 810 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,000 I feel like they'd be thinking the more straightforward the- 811 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Yeah. 812 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,080 I think it has to do with a personal thing first and foremost. 813 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:43,120 You worried about what this girl, what you think she want versus who you are. 814 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000 At the end of the day, somebody going to fuck with you or they're not going to fuck with 815 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,280 you. 816 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:53,160 And I think a lot of male entitlement comes from, I don't really care if she fuck with 817 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,160 me or not. 818 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,160 This is what I want. 819 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,440 I'm a finesse or finangular however I can, where it's just like you get way farther when 820 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,680 you just be yourself. 821 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:09,560 Not to say take what you get, but it's like you attract what you put out. 822 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,000 If you put out great energy, you're going to get great energy back. 823 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000 So yeah. 824 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000 But you a Libra. 825 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000 I didn't say you attract what you deserve. 826 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000 That's enough. 827 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000 If you're a person or if you really want something. 828 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000 I know some, I grew up in their food, bro. 829 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000 It's like you know a lot of cats who kind of emulate a certain type of behavior. 830 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:27,000 And they get surprised by the results of it. 831 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,000 We're just talking about men and women by the women that they attract. 832 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000 And they're upset that they meet women like them. 833 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000 And you want to know what I was about to say. 834 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 You were going to do the same. 835 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:44,520 To that point though, it's like if you attract what you deserve, a lot of people are delusional. 836 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,520 And they think they deserve more than what they actually are worth. 837 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,120 Or they don't want to believe that this is what they deserve and they maybe should do 838 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,520 some more work on themselves. 839 00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:01,440 If you're not getting the response or the energy that you think you deserve, then maybe 840 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,440 you should look in the mirror. 841 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,440 Exactly. 842 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:20,960 Because we was never good enough to niggas in the first place. 843 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960 I don't think that we were really born with that trait. 844 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,320 We were constantly told. 845 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,400 I remember the first time that someone told me that I was undesirable. 846 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,960 I was five. 847 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,680 I was five years old. 848 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,720 I was playing with a group of people. 849 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,720 We were playing house. 850 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:48,520 And the little girl told me, you're too brown. 851 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,760 We not playing with you. 852 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,760 And I'm like, but there was another girl that was lighter than me. 853 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,760 She was still black. 854 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,760 And I was like, well, she brown too. 855 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,320 Not your type of brown. 856 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,560 And I constantly got those messages over and over and over again. 857 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:11,080 And then going to a predominantly white school and then there was black kids that were there. 858 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,560 The black boys made me know. 859 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:21,000 They made it their business to make sure that I knew that I wasn't what they wanted. 860 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,560 So that is the reality for a lot of black women. 861 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:32,120 That's why we are always so think critically of ourselves for one, and two, we're very 862 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:38,240 hyper vigilant because we always feel like we have to mask and mold ourselves and pack 863 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:47,400 ourselves down to be palatable for not only our family, but black men, white men, white 864 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,400 women, like everybody. 865 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,400 Even black women even. 866 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,040 That does go over into our dating life too. 867 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,040 All the black women I know, they always have poor dating experiences. 868 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,880 And I feel like that falls back on what you were just saying. 869 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,320 We're conditioned to feel as though we're undesirable. 870 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200 So we take what we can get sometimes. 871 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,760 Yeah, you take what you can get sometimes. 872 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,760 So I don't know. 873 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,040 I feel like a lot of black women have shitty dating experiences and it falls back on that. 874 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,040 And it falls back on us. 875 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,040 It's our fault all the time. 876 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,800 And you know what's crazy? 877 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,960 I feel like black women, they have better dating experiences when they date outside 878 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,960 their race. 879 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,960 And I hate to say- 880 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,960 And I hate that because it's the truth and I've experienced that firsthand. 881 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,400 And I've talked to family members. 882 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,800 I've talked to even women at work, strangers. 883 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,800 Every time they start dating outside their race, they have like- 884 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,800 I give- 885 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,800 I was a cutie. 886 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,920 I've always gotten treated so well by men that were not black. 887 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,800 I don't like that that's a thing that y'all even think that way. 888 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,800 But it's true. 889 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,800 I'm not saying it's not. 890 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,320 I'm saying I don't like that it exists. 891 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,040 And a lot of times we do it reluctantly too. 892 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:05,000 But do you feel like in general black men are emotionally available or romantic? 893 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,280 I really just, in general, I'm not talking individually. 894 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,280 In general, I really just don't feel like y'all are. 895 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,640 I don't think they have the capacity for it. 896 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,240 Generally, I can see that perspective. 897 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:16,240 Why do you think that is? 898 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,520 I feel like black men do a lot of- 899 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,320 Can I go up there? 900 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,320 Yes. 901 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,720 I think black men do a lot of pandering, if you will. 902 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:28,960 Dead ass. 903 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:35,960 Just trying to live up to an expectation that they'll never be able to reach. 904 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,720 And I can kind of relate to that to an extent. 905 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:45,680 So when it comes to dating black women, they're automatically on this defensive and- 906 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:55,400 I feel like that contributes to why y'all get so much standoffish, like you said, emotionally 907 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:04,680 unavailable vibe because we're always worried about whether or not we're adequate. 908 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,680 And that's the thing. 909 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,360 Because I had a conversation with someone about that too. 910 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,360 And it's just like, I get it. 911 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:21,280 But in my experience and every black woman I've ever really talked to, it was like, but 912 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,920 I loved him just because he was him. 913 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,320 I loved him just because. 914 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,200 And y'all have that superpower. 915 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,200 Yeah. 916 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,200 He doesn't need anything extra. 917 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,960 I just want you to bring yourself to the table. 918 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:39,320 So do you feel like social media is a reason why a lot of black men feel like you're inadequate 919 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,320 sometimes? 920 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,360 We see on social media a lot, especially on Twitter, it's a lot of black women like, oh, 921 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,360 you gotta pay for this. 922 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,960 And if you're not taking me to like stake 48, you ain't got a chance with me. 923 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,680 Do you feel like that has to do with that too? 924 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,440 I think it contributes, but I think it goes way beyond social media. 925 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,480 It's just a culture of capitalism, I feel like, that contributes to that more so than 926 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,480 anything. 927 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,480 Capitalism, racism. 928 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,480 But that's the thing. 929 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:12,160 But I feel like racism is, I think we often stray away from the fact that like, there 930 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,120 is no racism without capitalism. 931 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,160 We worried about, racism is a real thing. 932 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,160 The two are synonymous also. 933 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,160 Don't get me twisted. 934 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,160 But capitalism is really the root. 935 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,160 Racism. 936 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,640 Capitalism is like the castle, but like racism is the doors that keep people from getting 937 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,640 that. 938 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,640 Exactly. 939 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,640 But they built it that way. 940 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,640 Yeah, they built it. 941 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,640 And I don't mean to leave this parody, but there are social barriers that are going to 942 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,640 stop you. 943 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,320 And let's be real, like what came first, the chicken or the egg? 944 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,400 This is very strictly like, it's clear that capitalism came first. 945 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,400 You know what I'm saying? 946 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,240 This isn't one of those riddles or whatever. 947 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:48,960 Capitalism was the first journal. 948 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:57,280 And I remember like when I was at community college and shit like that, I had this sociology 949 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:04,120 teacher and we had to write a paper at the end of the semester about this or that. 950 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:13,560 And he revealed like, towards the end of the semester that he was Republican. 951 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,480 This was a very open minded person. 952 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,960 White man, older white man. 953 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:27,200 I was impressed even at how like tolerant I could say he was and just like, you know, 954 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600 it seemed like he respected all people. 955 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,840 You know what I'm saying? 956 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:37,960 But somewhere in our classes, we had like open discussions for classes, every class. 957 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,840 And it was all different kinds of people in there, like black, white, you know what I'm 958 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,840 saying? 959 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,480 LGBTQ, like just everybody you can think of was in that class. 960 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,880 But this one class, he ended up, racism was like the topic. 961 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,000 And he was just like, racism? 962 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Where? 963 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,800 Basically, that was his premise. 964 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:03,240 And I was just like stunned because his take was that racism was non-existent at this point 965 00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:04,240 in time. 966 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,240 Like in this day and age. 967 00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:06,680 You got the money, you got the house. 968 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,240 Look at you, you're in college. 969 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,120 And I was just baffled. 970 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Like I've never, that was the first time I ever heard anybody actually say racism didn't 971 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,200 exist. 972 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,720 I don't think I ever heard that before then. 973 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:22,020 And for him to say, I was even more shocked. 974 00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:23,680 But then I was like, I shouldn't be shocked. 975 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,800 You know what I mean? 976 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,800 But I still wasn't. 977 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,840 So towards the end of the class, like when we was turning in the papers and stuff like 978 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,440 that, I was reluctant to like even really like connect with the professor the same way 979 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,800 I used to. 980 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,280 But I remember he, you know, I turned in my paper and he gave me a good grade on that 981 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:45,200 drawing, but he was like, you're a business owner, you're this, you're that. 982 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,480 I can't believe you wrote this paper about like free college. 983 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,220 Like how could you, I can't believe this is your stance. 984 00:43:52,220 --> 00:43:53,840 Like this is socialist. 985 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,160 And I was like, okay, I don't really see it as socialist. 986 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,320 Like I just feel like education should be free. 987 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,000 You know what I'm saying? 988 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,320 But based off of what he was saying, like it's true. 989 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,640 Adequate free education too. 990 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,440 I mean, the paper was basically about how like, you know, college education should be 991 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,400 free to everybody if we want like for the society. 992 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,400 You know what I'm saying? 993 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,640 We should be able to have access to free education at a high level. 994 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:26,040 And so he was just like, if you give people access to free education, then there's no 995 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,040 desire for it. 996 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,160 Like the value of it goes down. 997 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,160 I'm like, how? 998 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,440 Like I just couldn't put two and two together there, but that's just a typical like, cause 999 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,680 niggas hopping out every day, every second, every minute. 1000 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,120 You put a value on something that's essential and you run that shit up, you know what I'm 1001 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,120 saying? 1002 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,000 And then sometimes like, that's how you make money because then people know they need that. 1003 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,320 So they're going to pay whatever cost you put on it. 1004 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,320 I'm sorry, bro. 1005 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,400 Education can't be devalued by the amount of people that have it. 1006 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,720 Bro, so it's a wild, but it sounds crazy, right? 1007 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:57,720 Yeah. 1008 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,200 It sounds crazy, but that's how the thinking is. 1009 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,680 But even still like education is just like the base level of it. 1010 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,040 Like not everyone is going to be a daggone genius. 1011 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,200 Like there was niggas in Einstein's class, I'm pretty sure. 1012 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,480 That was not mentally where he was at. 1013 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,480 You see niggas in the class all black and white? 1014 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,480 Yeah. 1015 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,480 Tell them to just hear it for the photo. 1016 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,200 Yeah, like it's like, even when, even like to circle back to what we was talking about 1017 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,920 a little earlier about like how come like niggas can't just be regular, like even the 1018 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,960 rhetoric behind like everybody, every black person, like black excellence, we all have 1019 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,080 to strive for like this like mass amount of wealth and we just have to all try to reach 1020 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,080 to the 1%. 1021 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,680 And it's just like, what is wrong with just being normal? 1022 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,800 Like there are people, like there are going to be people that are better than you. 1023 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,440 There are going to be people that are worse than you. 1024 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560 Like you're going to, everything is a spectrum. 1025 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,360 Why does it feel like everybody wants to be like the talented 10th? 1026 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,760 Yeah, because this, this, it don't ever work like that. 1027 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,760 Yeah. 1028 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:08,920 So we're in society right now with, with this being a predominantly capitalist society, 1029 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,480 and this isn't just America, this is just how the world works. 1030 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,120 Capitalism is based off of like steadily, you know what I'm saying? 1031 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,520 Climbing up the ladder over a period of time throughout life. 1032 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,600 Like that's the lifestyle of it. 1033 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:27,800 And so I feel like at any point where you feel stagnated, you're automatically at the 1034 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,520 back end of society. 1035 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,640 If it, if we talk about capitalism. 1036 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,520 So that's, that's, that's why that is. 1037 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,840 And it sucks, but that's just the way the world sees things. 1038 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,840 You know what I'm saying? 1039 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,840 It's, it's crazy. 1040 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:47,200 I feel like a lot of people like are against like socialist and I guess communist, like 1041 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,200 economic systems. 1042 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,200 Yeah, even communism. 1043 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,760 And no one's saying that like we need to transition to those in totality. 1044 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,600 I feel like the only, that's because the only examples we have of communism is like Stalin. 1045 00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,600 Exactly. 1046 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,160 Even democracy did an initiative. 1047 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,160 Even Castro. 1048 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,080 I'm saying like no one, no one is talking about transition and going into those extremes 1049 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,040 of communism or socialism when they talk about them. 1050 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,620 But we're saying that like we need aspects of these different economic systems in order 1051 00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:16,960 to move forward. 1052 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,960 Exactly. 1053 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,760 But that's the thing. 1054 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,240 Like even with communism, I always look at it and I'm just like, but do you see how selfish 1055 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:29,440 communist rulers actually were? 1056 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,440 Right. 1057 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,840 It's more like a democracy than you really think. 1058 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,880 Yeah, it's closer and it's close. 1059 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,640 It's very close and dynamic, especially like you said, if you put one person in power and 1060 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,560 they have like control over everything, that means that the money is funneling from the 1061 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,560 top down. 1062 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:51,800 If they take 90% of that and then only leave 10% for like two, three, four, five million 1063 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,200 people, of course it's going to be shitty. 1064 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,400 I mean, I don't care how pure you are or how pure you were. 1065 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,680 But at a certain point you get up the ladder and you gain enough power. 1066 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,640 You're not going to want to give that up. 1067 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,160 And that's why racism still exists to this day. 1068 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:12,840 Because if you ask a white person if you would trade places with even one of us who seem 1069 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,440 to have it more together than, I don't know, another random black person or even like the 1070 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,000 immigrant or anything, they would still say no. 1071 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,080 Because they know that when they go to work, when they have to go to work, they're going 1072 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:32,120 to have to meet some dumb, some dumb Karen that's going to tell them, ask them if their 1073 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,760 dad was in their life just based off the fact that you were black or like little stupid 1074 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,080 ass microaggressions that you're just going to have to eat because you got to keep your 1075 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,080 job. 1076 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,400 Like they don't want to have to go through that. 1077 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400 White people have the power to just be. 1078 00:48:46,400 --> 00:49:10,040 Yeah. 1079 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,560 That's another part of the whole need for black excellence thing. 1080 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,320 It's been proven and shown so many times in our society, throughout history that in order 1081 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:25,680 for black people to be valued, get any type of anything, you have to be exceptionally 1082 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,000 better than your contemporaries. 1083 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000 Which will never happen. 1084 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,240 And it's like we have to do the maximum amount of work and then some. 1085 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:36,960 We have to be the most personable. 1086 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:44,280 We have to be just otherworldly as far as like the level of skill and talent and genius. 1087 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,840 And I think that's the most important thing. 1088 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:56,760 I think that's the most important thing. 1089 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,980 Yeah. 1090 00:49:57,980 --> 00:50:10,080 He said, oh, he said, he said, damn, I cracked the code. 1091 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080 Let's shift the conversation. 1092 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,240 I don't even know how we got on there, but it was an interesting conversation. 1093 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,360 But I want to get to the fun stuff. 1094 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,720 So we have a few sex questions for you. 1095 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,360 I mean, beauty's just coming. 1096 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,280 No, it's host a black girl. 1097 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,280 Hey, smile. 1098 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,000 So do you prefer hair or no hair in a coochie? 1099 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,360 And have you ever fucked anybody with like a bushy ass coochie? 1100 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,360 Like 70s, 1970s coochie. 1101 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,360 Oh man. 1102 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,360 Yes. 1103 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,360 Yeah. 1104 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,280 I prefer no hair. 1105 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,280 No hair. 1106 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,280 Okay. 1107 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,600 Have you ever fucked anybody with a bushy ass coochie? 1108 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,600 Bushy, bushy. 1109 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,600 Did you say 1970s? 1110 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,600 1970s push. 1111 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,600 Wolf puss. 1112 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,600 No, I can't say I have. 1113 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,840 Would you? 1114 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,840 I can't say I would. 1115 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,640 Why don't men like hair? 1116 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,480 I just feel like me personally, I don't want to speak for all men. 1117 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,480 No, a lot of men feel this way. 1118 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,280 So you can speak for all men. 1119 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,680 Yeah, what are you about to say? 1120 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,680 I want to see what he about to say. 1121 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,200 But I just feel like it's similar to what we was talking about earlier. 1122 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,200 It's a barrier. 1123 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,200 You know what I'm saying? 1124 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,200 It's a barrier. 1125 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,200 Yeah. 1126 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,200 I don't feel close. 1127 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,200 You know what I'm saying? 1128 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,200 I feel like it's a disconnect. 1129 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,200 You see what I'm saying? 1130 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,200 Hey yo. 1131 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,200 It's a disconnect. 1132 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,200 No bullshit. 1133 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:31,480 And then it's like, I can't do my best when that barrier is there. 1134 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,480 Oh. 1135 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,480 Why can't you? 1136 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,480 Because if you know what you're doing, you're going to know how to do it. 1137 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,920 You're talking about knowing what you're doing. 1138 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,600 How do you think Adam and Eve was out here bumping and grinding? 1139 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,600 They was innocent. 1140 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,600 They was totally pure. 1141 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,600 We're not going to do that. 1142 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,600 We're going to be rapid fired with these questions. 1143 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,600 Hold on. 1144 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,200 Let me be perfectly clear though when I talk about this barrier. 1145 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,080 You talk about something if you know what you're doing. 1146 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,400 This is uncharted territory. 1147 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,400 Every woman is different. 1148 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,400 You know what I'm saying? 1149 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,120 My job is to learn this particular woman that I'm dealing with at this particular time in 1150 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,960 this particular space. 1151 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,240 If I have more to deal with and go through, you know what I'm saying? 1152 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:12,000 It was already a lot getting here. 1153 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,440 You know what I'm saying? 1154 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,240 To be in this space, to be able to do what I'm doing right now. 1155 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:21,060 This is a physical manifestation of the work that I put in. 1156 00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:25,320 Now I have to rummage through, you know what I'm saying? 1157 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,320 No. 1158 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,320 Look at that. 1159 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,320 Okay. 1160 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,480 So you pay attention to a woman's body because you just said that. 1161 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,480 Yeah. 1162 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,480 1000%. 1163 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,040 What are some things that you do? 1164 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,040 That make women go crazy. 1165 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,520 Yeah, that make women go crazy. 1166 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:45,000 If you could give advice to a man that doesn't know how to fuck, what would be your one? 1167 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,000 Eye contact. 1168 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,000 Okay. 1169 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,000 What else? 1170 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,000 Praising. 1171 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,000 Okay. 1172 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,000 I'm sorry. 1173 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,000 My family might be watching this. 1174 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000 It's okay. 1175 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,000 Our mamas be watching it too. 1176 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,000 It's cool. 1177 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,120 When I say praising, I just mean talking. 1178 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,680 You give a fuck about this person. 1179 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,680 You compliment them. 1180 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,680 You look amazing. 1181 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,680 Send me the experience. 1182 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,680 Bring us into your life. 1183 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,680 This nigga. 1184 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:10,680 Okay. 1185 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:11,680 Draw. 1186 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,680 Okay. 1187 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,680 It's polite. 1188 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,680 Yeah. 1189 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:15,680 It's definitely about being polite. 1190 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,680 One second. 1191 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,680 Has a girl ever acted super crazy over your dick? 1192 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,680 Yes. 1193 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,040 But to what length? 1194 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:32,120 I got an ex that basically, I mean, she thought I was cheating. 1195 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,120 Was you? 1196 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,120 No. 1197 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,120 Oh. 1198 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,120 Damn. 1199 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,120 Sorry. 1200 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,120 I was just asking. 1201 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,720 She thought I was cheating, but I was just exhausted and I let my phone die. 1202 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:43,520 I passed out basically from exhaustion. 1203 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,800 I was working on my festival that I do. 1204 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,280 This was the second year I was doing it. 1205 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,000 I basically just was running on zero sleep. 1206 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,440 I was running on nothing and she was supposed to come over. 1207 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:04,480 She thought because I didn't answer the phone that I don't know, something was going on. 1208 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,360 She went to my sister crib, convinced her to give her the spare key. 1209 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,360 What? 1210 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,360 Oh wow. 1211 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,440 She came in with the spare key, went up to my room. 1212 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,440 And beat the shit out of you. 1213 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,440 No, I wasn't in my room. 1214 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,440 Oh. 1215 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,880 She went up to my room while I was sitting in the living room thinking that somebody 1216 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:20,880 was up there. 1217 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,640 I was like, what the fuck is going on with the guys in my room? 1218 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:31,720 She just trashed my room, tore my wardrobe down, and then just stormed out. 1219 00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:32,720 This is when it gets juicy. 1220 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:33,720 Oh, okay. 1221 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:34,720 That wasn't the juicy part. 1222 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:35,720 So, not quite. 1223 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:36,720 I'm crying. 1224 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:46,600 Mind you, at this point in time, I didn't know what was going on. 1225 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,400 I didn't know she was doing that upstairs or nothing. 1226 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,040 Oh, you were still asleep? 1227 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,520 I was still basically, I was waking up, so I was getting my bearings together. 1228 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,880 She just rushes out my crib. 1229 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,120 I'm like, oh man, she's clearly upset. 1230 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,120 Let me see what's wrong. 1231 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,400 I chase her. 1232 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,920 She goes out my crib. 1233 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,200 Once we both get outside, I start calling for her like, yo, where you going? 1234 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,760 She just started booking it. 1235 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,760 Now I'm chasing her down the street. 1236 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,880 I get to her car. 1237 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,600 I get to her car, and she reaches in her back seat and pulls out a crowbar. 1238 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,600 Oh! 1239 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,600 Oh shit. 1240 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,280 I was like, whoa, how did we get here? 1241 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,160 She's like, do you see this? 1242 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,240 This is what I was going to do. 1243 00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:29,360 I was going to bust your shit up. 1244 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,120 I'm like, yo, we could just go in the house and talk. 1245 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,880 This is getting somewhere I never expected it to go. 1246 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:35,880 He said, chill. 1247 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:41,960 I would say that's the most... There's been other things that have happened too, but that's 1248 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,960 one that- 1249 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,960 Okay, but all right. 1250 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,640 I feel like you just gave it... Well, the question I asked you prior to that one, I 1251 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,040 texted you with some advice you would give to a guy, and you said eye contact, periods, 1252 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,040 all that. 1253 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,240 But actually, what's a move that you do that drops in your brain? 1254 00:55:58,240 --> 00:55:59,240 Oh, man. 1255 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,760 If you want to demonstrate it, you can. 1256 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,760 Nah, nah. 1257 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,760 I don't know. 1258 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,760 Not the stroke request. 1259 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,760 Or do you not have one? 1260 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:14,320 I mean, I just really, I just try to pay attention, man. 1261 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,320 I don't really think it's- 1262 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,320 You don't have a signature move? 1263 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:24,680 Every move is different for every woman. 1264 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,440 I think it's just my approach that's signature, not necessarily a particular move. 1265 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,000 I like to set the tone and set the mood. 1266 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,120 It's more of a psychological game with me. 1267 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,120 Psychological game? 1268 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,120 Yeah. 1269 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,120 It's not necessarily like a physical game. 1270 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,120 I don't like how that sounded. 1271 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,120 That sounds scary. 1272 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,120 It might be. 1273 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,120 That doesn't sound like a physical game. 1274 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,800 It might be, but it doesn't change that it's a good job. 1275 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,800 You might be a little scared. 1276 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,800 Okay. 1277 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,880 Why do you think that men are not able to properly make a woman orgasm? 1278 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,280 Because it's an orgasm game. 1279 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,280 Yeah, for sure. 1280 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,280 Women are not coming. 1281 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,280 At all. 1282 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,280 I don't really know if it's the men. 1283 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,280 I think y'all don't like the men y'all deal with. 1284 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,280 I don't know, but I feel like a lot of men are fucking selfish. 1285 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,280 They are. 1286 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,280 And you like that? 1287 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,280 Huh? 1288 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,280 You like that? 1289 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,280 No. 1290 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,280 And you don't like it either, right? 1291 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,280 No. 1292 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,280 And the men y'all dealt with are selfish. 1293 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,600 Yeah, but that's in my prior stage. 1294 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,600 Now it's like- 1295 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,640 But I'm saying, this is my point. 1296 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,120 A lot of women are in what you consider your prior stage. 1297 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,120 So if they're not liking the men that they deal with, then what are the chances of- 1298 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,640 But we do like them. 1299 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,640 We like them as people. 1300 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,640 But come on. 1301 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,640 You better start holding men accountable. 1302 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,600 Y'all are just like- 1303 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,080 I'll get y'all nut and then be like- 1304 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,080 Well it don't take much for us to nut. 1305 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,080 Be caring. 1306 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,600 Well, let's just be clear. 1307 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,600 It takes more for y'all to nut. 1308 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,600 It does. 1309 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,600 But we not worth the work? 1310 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,080 I be doing squats so I can- 1311 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,080 I never said that. 1312 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,080 I truly believe y'all worth the work. 1313 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,080 I mean- 1314 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,080 How often do you have an open dialogue with your partner about how he's not satisfied? 1315 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,080 Often. 1316 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,080 Does anything change? 1317 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,080 At what point in the story do you switch partners? 1318 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:16,560 What do you think you are? 1319 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,560 But this is to my point. 1320 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,560 This is exactly what I'm saying. 1321 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,560 Because I thought y'all was big believers in the business. 1322 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,560 If you can't do it, it's somebody who can. 1323 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,560 And it is. 1324 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,560 There are. 1325 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,560 And so why haven't you found him? 1326 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,560 But it's like, I don't want that other man. 1327 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,560 I mean, we talked about that. 1328 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,560 I don't want that other man. 1329 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,560 I don't want that other man. 1330 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,560 I don't want that other man. 1331 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,560 I don't want that other man. 1332 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:30,560 I don't want that other man. 1333 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,560 I mean, we're talking about women generally right now. 1334 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,560 I want that one. 1335 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,560 But you don't want his orgasm then. 1336 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,560 It's very sad. 1337 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,560 Exactly. 1338 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,880 Do you want the orgasm or not, sis? 1339 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,200 Do you want the orgasm or not, sis? 1340 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,720 You could still like the guy. 1341 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,080 You talking about the orgasm gap. 1342 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,080 What about Rose Quine? 1343 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,080 I'm cracking up. 1344 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,080 Rose Quine be doing his thing. 1345 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,080 Rose Quine be doing his thing. 1346 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,080 Rose Quine be doing his thing. 1347 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,080 Rose Quine be doing his thing. 1348 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,080 Rose Quine be doing his thing. 1349 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,680 From what I hear about your little partner, Rosie, you mean? 1350 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:02,680 Rosie O'Donnelly. 1351 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,680 Rosie O'Donnelly, whatever you want to call him. 1352 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,280 Did you do the wax on wax off motion? 1353 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,320 Whatever, the stuff I be hearing is, it happens quick with Rosie boy. 1354 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,320 Anyways, let's get to that. 1355 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,320 I mean, on certain- 1356 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,320 Oh, now y'all want to change topics, though. 1357 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,320 Anyways, yeah. 1358 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,320 That's crazy. 1359 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,280 We're going to play a game of fuck, marry, kill. 1360 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,840 So you got five categories and you can pick three of them. 1361 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,840 Okay. 1362 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,840 So we got aunties, R&B artists, Instagram baddies, female rappers and actresses. 1363 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,720 You got to pick three categories. 1364 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:31,720 I'm definitely going to do aunties. 1365 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:32,720 This nigga is chaotic. 1366 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,720 He told me he would fuck Felicia. 1367 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,720 Chill, chill, chill. 1368 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:35,720 Felicia Rashad? 1369 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,720 I would too. 1370 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,720 Chill, bro, chill, bro, chill, chill. 1371 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:38,720 All right, come on, pick your category. 1372 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:39,720 Yeah, of course. 1373 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,720 Damn. 1374 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:41,720 First of all, pick your categories. 1375 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,720 It was aunties, R&B singers, Instagram baddies, female rappers, actresses, and actresses. 1376 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:43,720 I'm definitely going to do aunties. 1377 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,720 And then what was the other one? 1378 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:45,720 This nigga is chaotic. 1379 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,720 He told me he would fuck Felicia. 1380 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,720 Chill, chill, chill, y'all. 1381 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:48,720 Felicia Rashad? 1382 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,720 I would too. 1383 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:56,280 So pick your categories, aunties, R&B singers, Instagram baddies, female rappers, and actresses. 1384 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,840 Aunties, actresses, and... 1385 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:03,960 Aunties, R&B artists, Instagram baddies, female rappers, and actresses. 1386 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,680 R&B artists, aunties, actresses, and R&B artists. 1387 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:12,320 Okay, aunties, you got Taraji, Nia Long, and Angela Bassett. 1388 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,520 Fuck Mary Koo. 1389 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,520 I'm fucking Taraji. 1390 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,520 Okay. 1391 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,120 I'm marrying Nia. 1392 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,120 Good job. 1393 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,120 You're gonna kill Angela Bassett? 1394 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,120 That is disrespectful. 1395 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,120 But it's cool. 1396 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,120 It's cool. 1397 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,120 Go ahead. 1398 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,120 Mary Angela. 1399 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,120 Yes. 1400 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,120 Black Nia killed Taraji. 1401 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,120 That's the Black King right there. 1402 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,120 You're gonna kill Taraji P. Henson? 1403 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:36,120 Bro, did you not hear the part where she said Angela Bassett? 1404 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,120 I did hear that. 1405 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,120 Okay. 1406 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,120 He don't give a fuck. 1407 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,120 Damn. 1408 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,120 I do. 1409 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,120 I really do. 1410 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,120 I do. 1411 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,120 So what category did you pick? 1412 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,120 What other one did you pick? 1413 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,120 R&B artists. 1414 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,120 All right. 1415 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,880 I'm gonna kill Jasmine Sullivan and Victoria Monet. 1416 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,080 Fuck Mary Koo. 1417 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,080 I'm marrying Jasmine. 1418 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,080 As you should. 1419 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,080 As you should. 1420 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,080 It was Ari Lennox and- 1421 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,080 And Victoria Monet. 1422 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,080 Jasmine Sullivan and Victoria Monet. 1423 01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,080 Fucking Jasmine and Victoria got it done. 1424 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:07,080 No, I'm fucking Victoria Monet and I'm killing Ari. 1425 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,080 I love you Ari, but I'm- 1426 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,080 You're gonna kill Ari? 1427 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,080 I am. 1428 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,520 Why are you killing Ari? 1429 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,520 Why? 1430 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,680 Because she's not gonna be nearly as nasty as Victoria Monet. 1431 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,040 Maybe it's because you turned that out of her. 1432 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,840 Why would I need to bring it out of her? 1433 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,840 Because it's a psychological game. 1434 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:23,840 Oh, he used it. 1435 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,840 I'm playing, but she's not even- 1436 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,840 You think this nigga nice. 1437 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,840 She's not even playing at my- 1438 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,840 Ari Lennox not even playing at my level. 1439 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,840 You tripping. 1440 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:29,840 I wanna play with somebody that can play at my level, bro. 1441 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,840 Somebody that can play checkers can graduate the chess with the proper promise. 1442 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:31,840 Why am I wasting my time with somebody that needs to graduate when I can- 1443 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,840 When you can already have the- 1444 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,840 I'm not feeling nobody cut, bro. 1445 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,840 My cup not even full yet. 1446 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:35,840 Ari Lennox nasty too. 1447 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,840 She is. 1448 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:37,840 But not like Victoria. 1449 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,840 Very nasty. 1450 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,840 She's not even playing at my level. 1451 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:40,840 I'm not feeling nobody cut, bro. 1452 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,840 My cup not even full yet. 1453 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:48,240 Ari Lennox nasty too. 1454 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,240 She is. 1455 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,240 But not like Victoria. 1456 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,240 Not like Victoria. 1457 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,240 Have you heard Jaguar? 1458 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,240 Yes. 1459 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,240 Yeah. 1460 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,240 Okay. 1461 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,240 You really don't wanna taste no shea butter, baby. 1462 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,240 That's crazy. 1463 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,240 Yeah, that's insane. 1464 01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,240 Nigga, I'm a shea butter baby. 1465 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,240 I know that's motherfucking right. 1466 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,240 What the fuck is you talking about? 1467 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,240 All right. 1468 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,240 I'm the prize. 1469 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,240 I'm the prize? 1470 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,240 I'm the catch. 1471 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:10,240 The last category left is Instagram baddies and female rappers and actresses. 1472 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,240 What did you want out of that one? 1473 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,240 Actresses. 1474 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,240 Actresses. 1475 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,240 Okay. 1476 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,760 Holly Belly from Chloe X Holly. 1477 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,160 Kiki Palmer and Coco Jones. 1478 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,640 Now you've gotten me in a predicament. 1479 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,520 I'm in a pinch. 1480 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:30,760 You said Kiki Palmer, Holly Belly and Coco Jones. 1481 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,680 Holly Belly from Chloe X Holly. 1482 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,560 The problem is I've had a crush on all three of them at different stages in my life. 1483 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,520 That's really what the problem is here. 1484 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,520 We can get this out of the way. 1485 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,320 I'm never going to kill Kiki Palmer. 1486 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,320 Yes. 1487 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,320 I'm marrying Kiki Palmer. 1488 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,320 As you should. 1489 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,320 That's my business. 1490 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,320 Get a twin. 1491 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,320 Everyone calls. 1492 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,320 Coco Jones kills Holly. 1493 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:55,160 I know Coco Jones does get in a fight. 1494 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,760 This is where it gets hard though, I'm going to be honest. 1495 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,040 That's easy for you, but for me. 1496 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,040 That's easy for you, but for me. 1497 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,040 You don't have no biases, no natural bias? 1498 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,560 I just don't want to kill Holly. 1499 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,360 She don't deserve that. 1500 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,360 I know. 1501 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,360 I'm a killer though. 1502 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,360 I'm going to fuck Coco. 1503 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,360 I'm sorry Holly. 1504 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,360 When we meet later, I apologize in person. 1505 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,840 When we meet later. 1506 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,920 That wraps up everything. 1507 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,920 We did get you a gift because I want... What? 1508 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,920 Yes. 1509 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:31,920 That's fire. 1510 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:32,920 Get out. 1511 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:33,920 This is amazing. 1512 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,560 Just rap for the audience. 1513 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,560 I knew this was a good idea. 1514 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,560 Can I unwrap it now? 1515 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:38,560 Yes. 1516 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,080 I knew this was a good idea to come on this podcast, but I didn't know this was... You 1517 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,080 know what I'm saying? 1518 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,280 Look, my guests, they going to get treated like crazy. 1519 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,280 This is insane. 1520 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,280 I did my research. 1521 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,280 No, this is crazy. 1522 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,280 Wait, wait, wait. 1523 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,280 Oh shit. 1524 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,280 My damn. 1525 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,720 I don't know if you got a record player or not, but... 1526 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,840 Now I'm going to get one. 1527 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,840 This is literally... 1528 01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,840 I do my research on my guests. 1529 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,840 I got my ways. 1530 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,840 That'll be your next guest? 1531 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,840 You can't. 1532 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,840 Wait, wait, wait. 1533 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,840 Hold on. 1534 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:10,920 Lauren Hill is one of the only artists that's ever made me cry listening to her. 1535 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,600 I'm saying this is actually... 1536 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:13,600 Wow. 1537 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,600 Hold it up. 1538 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,600 Say cheese, mama. 1539 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,080 No, this is actually one of the best gifts I've ever gotten. 1540 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,080 This is legit. 1541 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,080 This is legit. 1542 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,080 This is super thorough. 1543 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,080 Yeah. 1544 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,080 I'm like, I do my research on my guests. 1545 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,080 Y'all get hugs. 1546 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,080 Y'all get hugs. 1547 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,080 This is crazy. 1548 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,080 You knew about this? 1549 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,080 You was in on this? 1550 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,080 Wow. 1551 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,080 Yes. 1552 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,080 Y'all different, man. 1553 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,080 Wow. 1554 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,080 I can't believe this. 1555 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,080 No, I'm really in... This is genuine. 1556 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,080 I can't believe this. 1557 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,080 Man, your eyes getting red. 1558 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,080 That's crazy. 1559 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,080 17 emotions, black. 1560 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:48,080 I listen to this album regularly just to keep me inspired. 1561 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,080 Insane. 1562 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,080 Insane. 1563 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:57,600 But I would go as far as to say, when I was writing my album, I felt like I wanted it 1564 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,080 to be like this from a male perspective. 1565 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,080 I get that. 1566 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,080 You know what I'm saying? 1567 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,080 I'm like, this is insane. 1568 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,080 I'm Ebi Waleishige. 1569 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,080 Thank you for coming on. 1570 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,080 What research did you do? 1571 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,080 You time traveled. 1572 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,080 I have my ways. 1573 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,080 I'm a crazy bitch. 1574 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,080 I have my ways. 1575 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,080 This right here, man. 1576 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,080 But that wraps up everything. 1577 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,080 I really want to thank you for coming on. 1578 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,080 I really appreciate it. 1579 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,080 You're like my first actual guest. 1580 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,080 Man. 1581 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,080 I really appreciate it. 1582 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,080 I feel like it fit to have you on here. 1583 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,080 This is such an honor, man. 1584 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,080 And I really fuck with Freddie. 1585 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,080 Woo. 1586 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,080 Yeah, Fred. 1587 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,080 And thank y'all for coming to support him. 1588 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,080 All right. 1589 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,080 Thank you. 1590 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,080 Thank you. 1591 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,080 Thank you. 1592 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,080 Thank you. 1593 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,080 Thank you. 1594 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,080 Thank you. 1595 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,080 Thank you. 1596 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,080 All right. 1597 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,080 Thank you, y'all. 1598 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,080 Bye. 1599 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,080 Bye, y'all. 1600 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,080 Thank y'all, man. 1601 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,080 Wow. 1602 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,080 This is great. 1603 01:05:39,080 --> 01:06:06,180 I'm not the best buff this year.