What is up, everybody? We are back. I am George Mossey and I am here with my co-host, Kara.
Hello, Kara. So 90 Day Fiance, The Other Way, season four, episode 10. This is part two
of the podcast. We have so much to talk about. We ran out of time the first time because
there's just not enough time in the day to talk about all this 90 day drama. So we got
a little snippet of some time with Danielle and Johan in the Dominican Republic and they
are still talking about this ex thing. So Danielle is not backing down. She still wants
to meet this ex and she also wants Johan to meet him too. And I'm like, Danielle, why
does he need to meet your ex? Like, I don't, I don't, I already disagree that you need
to have a relationship with your ex. And when you left him in the U S that's where he should
have stayed. Why is he in the DR where you are? Like this is all just out of control
at this point. And one thing that I loved on this episode was Johan was like, if you
go ahead and do this, I won't stop you, but I will punish you in a later date. And I will
not tell you what that punishment was. And I really enjoy that. I know it's immature,
right? And I know it's bad relationship stuff. Like, but I was so happy with that because
she was like, well, what's the consequence? He's like, I'm not going to tell you. And
it reminded me of like when you were a child and you pissed off one of your friends and
they were like, I'm going to get you back. And you're like, what are you going to do?
They're like, you're never going to know when I'm just going to walk up and smack you in
the back of the head. Like it reminded me of that. And I was like, see, I like this,
Johan, this is going to work. Right? Yes. I can't wait to see what the consequences
are because she's going to do it no matter what she thinks. I think that she wants to
meet the ex to either make the ex jealous or to make Johan jealous. If not both, because
she thrives on the attention, just thrives. Well, the idea that she needs Johan to meet
him, I'm leaning towards the make the ex jealous. Cause I was like, if I had an ex and we did
have a relationship, no, I don't want to say a relationship. I want to say a friendship
and they wanted to meet me and I'm dating someone. The last thing I want to do is bring
those three, all three of us together in the same space. Cause it's going to create such
a negative vibe and energy. So it's no way. Right. And I'm thinking like whatever she's
trying to do, it's going to harm their relationship. And she's like, Oh, well, if this is going
to make him mad, he'll be unhappy in this relationship. And I was like, thank you.
We've been saying this all season, Johan, you're going to be unhappy in this relationship.
We have all said that we can see it. We totally get it. And it's like, he's trying and in
his coping ways, he had to put down a few beers, you know, to get through this conversation.
And then he was trying to drive home and she flips out and she's like, you can't drive
home because you're drunk. I agreed. And I agree. I don't want Johan driving if he has
had drinks or whatever, but he might not have had to have so many drinks minus the tone
of that conversation. Right. I feel like that conversation made him, maybe had him order
a few more because he's just trying to tolerate this insanity, right. This insanity of having
to meet this woman's ex when he has no interest in that. And then his culture, and I want
to say in our culture too, like a lot of people in our culture, they don't want to meet your
ex. Like if I'm dating you, your ex is your past. Leave it, leave it there for me, please.
And thank you.
But did you catch where she said if he doesn't want to meet him, I've got a lot of people
in my life that he's not going to be pleased with. So what you were planning on introducing
him to all of your exes, everyone that you've ever been with, that's absurd.
It is absurd. And I did catch that. And it kind of sounded like a threat. Yeah. Like
she was like, if he's going to punish me this way, I'm going to punish him that way. And
it's not tit for tat, right? This is a marriage.
I know it's too, and it's like, this is a brand new marriage. Everything can not be
tit for tat. Okay, so enough of them. I want to talk about Chris and Jamie. So they get
married and a day after they get married, they're looking at food trucks, which I love
food trucks. Anytime I go somewhere and there's a food truck outside, I get super excited,
like a kid with the ice cream truck. I'm like super excited about food trucks. Apparently
very expensive. So $10,000 for one that you can't eat in and $20,000 for one that you
can't, I didn't even know that you could eat inside of a food truck and it had zombies
in it. So I, if I had $20,000, I would want that truck. But we watched that and they're
not ready for that because we learned that Chris is having financial problems and she
kind of had been hinting around about it this season because we kind of learned about the
apartment being a little more expensive and that was an issue. So we've been seeing little
snippets of these financial issues, but she's going to have to go back to Alabama to fix
some things with her bank. They think that someone stole her identity because she's clearly
in another country swiping cards everywhere. So people are like, who is doing that? And
then there's some narcolepsy medication that they don't carry in Columbia that she needs
obviously. And I don't know how you can fix that. Can you ship medications overseas? Like
I don't even know. Like these, this is all foreign to me, right?
Oh, in my opinion, okay. Even if I just travel out of state, I always call my bank and let
them know it's me because I'm not going to run into any issues when I'm out of town.
So why wouldn't you call your financial institution and let them know you're moving out of country?
First of all, and second, you cannot tell me there's nobody with narcolepsy in Columbia.
That is, this is all piling up to something off. She is very, I want to say that she said,
I mean, she went insane. She had a lot of money. It's not looking, it does. And there's
so much unfolding and it breaks my heart for Jamie. I love Jamie. I think she's got the
most beautiful heart. When she cries, I cry. I don't know what it is about her. Oh my
gosh. Watching her cry just infuriated me. I got mad at Chris. It's just something's
unfolding and it's not going to be good.
Yeah. I really hate it because Jamie really feels every time that Chris says she's going
to leave, she's never going to see her again. And marrying her didn't erase that feeling.
That feeling is still there because in the car when she said, if you don't come back
here, I'm going to burn your stuff. I believed every word that she said. She meant it. She
was like, I really would be beyond the point of heartbroken. I will be insanely upset and
angry to the point where I will not know how to live without you. And I feel like that
love is so strong. And I know they just met, right? It's only been like a month since they
physically met in person, but I feel like Jamie is in this forever. When she said when
it was their wedding, she's like, this is forever. I'm never getting married other than
to Chris. And I believe her. So I really hope that this isn't a way for Chris to skip town.
And I mean, she hasn't said that she would, but we don't know what all is going on behind
the scenes and how can you fix all of these things? And she said like a couple of weeks.
If there is a medical situation where you need to ship medication overseas, I know you
can't ship certain drugs overseas. There's like laws for all of that stuff. So I'm just
really worried about Jamie.
You can buy over the counter. She came, she should have set this up with her doctor to
for her mom to pick it up and her mom to be able to send it or something to that effect.
One of her children, she should have had all of this lined up. She, if Jamie gets her
heart broken, I'm going to be so furious. I mean, I feel like she's broken, but I just,
I won't be able to handle it if Jamie cries anymore. She just, that girl owns my heart.
She has put up with a lot on this short 30 days and I feel like she's such a trooper.
So I want to hop over on a plane and go to India because we want to talk about Rishi
and Rishi and his friend, Natesh, who is also an astrologer. They were in a dance club,
which to us Americans, it looks a lot like a strip club minus the pole. But Rishi said
that that is not the case. They do have hookah. The girls do dance very close to you and on
the floor and very centrally, but that is not the same thing. So I'm going to leave
that up to the interpretation of the viewer and I'm not going to go anymore into that.
But that is hiding in a broom closet. That was the weirdest thing to me when she was
done and she went in the closet and closed the door. I was like, this is the weirdest
thing I've ever seen. So we found from the astrologer, Natesh, that the best time for
Rishi to tell his parents about Jin and the engagement and her existence as his fiancee
is August 2nd at 4 p.m., which is insanely specific. I was like, I didn't know astrologers
and psychics and mediums could be that specific because when we ask them questions normally,
we get a vague answer. And that was so specific. I was like, I kind of want to call him and
ask him for the lottery numbers because he gives direct answers. Well, that's like 50
something days from that time. And Jin is already in route and she's already angry because
she found out from Randy about the picture. And a lot of people were comparing the picture
on Twitter tonight and they were showing how different Rishi looked now from the picture.
And that kind of brings back to what you were talking about last week because you were like,
well, that picture is from 2017. It's not a recent picture. But Jin still confronted
him. They were at the oil drip massage and she still confronted him. And I think what
really rubbed her the wrong way, it wasn't that she thought that he was doing anything
wrong. It's more so that he didn't acknowledge it and he said that he didn't remember. And
it's like, if you don't remember doing it, does that mean that you didn't do it? Does
it mean that you do it so much you don't remember specifics? That's, I think, what got to Jin.
And I was just like, I would have felt better if he just would have admitted to it. I would
have felt much better that way.
It also goes back to Randy because when Jin said, do you want to see my phone? He says,
yeah. And then she shows him and it's literally just the one text that Randy sent, the one
picture that Rishi sent that's all over the internet and nothing, there was no text stating
because Randy's the one that said they were making plans to meet up. That wasn't in writing.
So that's just her words. There's no proof that that actually happened. So him saying
no, I actually believe him. I don't think he did. I don't think he set anything up with
Randy. I think that's Randy talking.
Well, see, I kind of feel like there's evidence to support what you're saying because when
she said, can I see your phone? And he just handed it to her. I feel like someone who's
guilty will say, why do you want to see my phone? What do you want to look at? He literally
felt like he didn't do anything wrong because she kind of gave him a reason or a chance
to admit to anything before she showed him the evidence. And he was like, no, I don't
have anything to say. And then when she opened the phone, she was like, oh, you sent this
person a rose. And it's like, I don't know how texting and flirting works, but I feel
like social media is just one little overly friendly thing. I feel like people say things
really overly friendly on social media. You would never say in person to someone. So everything
comes across as flirty to me because I've left comments on people's posts before. And
then I've had people comment back and say, she has a boyfriend or she's married. And
I was like, oh, I wasn't like, that's not what I meant. But the way we talk on social
media, it always can look a certain way because there's no tone in text. So I don't know.
I don't feel like reaching, I mean, it's been three years and he is talking to the astrologer.
He is working towards telling his parents, which we didn't know if that was true or not,
but he does have a date, a specific date and time, 4 PM on that day. So I don't know. What
do you think Jen should do? Do you think Jen should let this go or do you think Jen should
push the issue? I think she needs to let that go completely. I think Randy blew it up and
made it something it's not. And it's just going to cause more problems. If there were
specifics saying, yeah, when you get here, I'll meet you at the airport or I'll meet
you at the train station or I'll meet you at this restaurant. There's none of that in
writing. That's Randy talking out her ass. I'm sorry, but it is. But the astrologer said,
if you go back to three years ago, he told them it's going to be a long road for the
next three years, whatever time he saw him last time. So we're not to the three year
point. They've only been together for a couple of years. So we're not even to the three year
point. How can he give them a date of August 2nd now if it's not even if the three years
isn't even up. So now all of a sudden there's a good date in there. That's a good point.
You're right. Because we've this isn't the first time we've seen him on this season because
he was the friend that they brought over to disguise Jen as a friend when they met the
parents. So you're right. It hasn't even been close to that because Jen was only back in
Oklahoma for like less than three months. So you're right. That makes no sense at all.
See now I don't believe it. See now you got me now. Now it's all a bunch of baloney, right?
It doesn't make sense to me either. I was like this guy, I don't care what he says.
He's just he's just talking. I want this to work between Jen and Rishi. But I just feel
like there's a lot against them. And the parents having the last say, I always feel like it's
going to be a horrible situation because no matter how much you love each other, it's
not up to you. And I feel like at this point, Jen doesn't know how she feels. Like when
she got on the plane, she told her sister-in-law, she's like, what am I doing? Like, where am
I going? And I feel like there's so much doubt. So I feel like while she's in India now, she
needs to get an understanding of where this relationship is, and even determine if this
is what she wants before they even involve his parents. Like they need to sit down and
get things together between the two of them figure out if you trust them or not. Because
if you don't trust them, there's no point of even being in India right now.
Yeah, exactly. I just, I don't know. I think Randy planted this bad idea in her head. I
think that him prematurely telling her that he was going to tell the parents, I think
that the astrologer putting all these thoughts and ideas out there of certain times or certain
dates, I think that that's enough to mess with anybody's mind. So you combine all of
that and it's like, I wouldn't know what to believe. So I can understand Jen's confusion.
Absolutely.
All right, guys, we've run out of time. Again, there's too much there's not enough time in
the world to talk about all this 90 day drama guys. All right. Thank you so much to my co
host Carl for joining me today. I'm George Massey. Make sure you're following me on all
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