1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,800 What is up, everybody? We are back. I am George Mossey and I am here with my co-host, Kara. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Hello, Kara. So 90 Day Fiance, The Other Way, season four, episode 10. This is part two 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,240 of the podcast. We have so much to talk about. We ran out of time the first time because 4 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:21,240 there's just not enough time in the day to talk about all this 90 day drama. So we got 5 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:27,100 a little snippet of some time with Danielle and Johan in the Dominican Republic and they 6 00:00:27,100 --> 00:00:32,140 are still talking about this ex thing. So Danielle is not backing down. She still wants 7 00:00:32,140 --> 00:00:37,140 to meet this ex and she also wants Johan to meet him too. And I'm like, Danielle, why 8 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:41,180 does he need to meet your ex? Like, I don't, I don't, I already disagree that you need 9 00:00:41,180 --> 00:00:45,880 to have a relationship with your ex. And when you left him in the U S that's where he should 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,040 have stayed. Why is he in the DR where you are? Like this is all just out of control 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,560 at this point. And one thing that I loved on this episode was Johan was like, if you 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,360 go ahead and do this, I won't stop you, but I will punish you in a later date. And I will 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,960 not tell you what that punishment was. And I really enjoy that. I know it's immature, 14 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,680 right? And I know it's bad relationship stuff. Like, but I was so happy with that because 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,760 she was like, well, what's the consequence? He's like, I'm not going to tell you. And 16 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,720 it reminded me of like when you were a child and you pissed off one of your friends and 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,320 they were like, I'm going to get you back. And you're like, what are you going to do? 18 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:22,280 They're like, you're never going to know when I'm just going to walk up and smack you in 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,440 the back of the head. Like it reminded me of that. And I was like, see, I like this, 20 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Johan, this is going to work. Right? Yes. I can't wait to see what the consequences 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,360 are because she's going to do it no matter what she thinks. I think that she wants to 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,840 meet the ex to either make the ex jealous or to make Johan jealous. If not both, because 23 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:48,240 she thrives on the attention, just thrives. Well, the idea that she needs Johan to meet 24 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,280 him, I'm leaning towards the make the ex jealous. Cause I was like, if I had an ex and we did 25 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,880 have a relationship, no, I don't want to say a relationship. I want to say a friendship 26 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,760 and they wanted to meet me and I'm dating someone. The last thing I want to do is bring 27 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,560 those three, all three of us together in the same space. Cause it's going to create such 28 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:09,860 a negative vibe and energy. So it's no way. Right. And I'm thinking like whatever she's 29 00:02:09,860 --> 00:02:14,120 trying to do, it's going to harm their relationship. And she's like, Oh, well, if this is going 30 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,720 to make him mad, he'll be unhappy in this relationship. And I was like, thank you. 31 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,760 We've been saying this all season, Johan, you're going to be unhappy in this relationship. 32 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:27,400 We have all said that we can see it. We totally get it. And it's like, he's trying and in 33 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,360 his coping ways, he had to put down a few beers, you know, to get through this conversation. 34 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,120 And then he was trying to drive home and she flips out and she's like, you can't drive 35 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,360 home because you're drunk. I agreed. And I agree. I don't want Johan driving if he has 36 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,300 had drinks or whatever, but he might not have had to have so many drinks minus the tone 37 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:50,620 of that conversation. Right. I feel like that conversation made him, maybe had him order 38 00:02:50,620 --> 00:02:56,160 a few more because he's just trying to tolerate this insanity, right. This insanity of having 39 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,760 to meet this woman's ex when he has no interest in that. And then his culture, and I want 40 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,400 to say in our culture too, like a lot of people in our culture, they don't want to meet your 41 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:08,480 ex. Like if I'm dating you, your ex is your past. Leave it, leave it there for me, please. 42 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,480 And thank you. 43 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,920 But did you catch where she said if he doesn't want to meet him, I've got a lot of people 44 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:20,300 in my life that he's not going to be pleased with. So what you were planning on introducing 45 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:25,720 him to all of your exes, everyone that you've ever been with, that's absurd. 46 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,680 It is absurd. And I did catch that. And it kind of sounded like a threat. Yeah. Like 47 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,120 she was like, if he's going to punish me this way, I'm going to punish him that way. And 48 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,240 it's not tit for tat, right? This is a marriage. 49 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,760 I know it's too, and it's like, this is a brand new marriage. Everything can not be 50 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,460 tit for tat. Okay, so enough of them. I want to talk about Chris and Jamie. So they get 51 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:50,160 married and a day after they get married, they're looking at food trucks, which I love 52 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,560 food trucks. Anytime I go somewhere and there's a food truck outside, I get super excited, 53 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,060 like a kid with the ice cream truck. I'm like super excited about food trucks. Apparently 54 00:03:58,060 --> 00:04:02,880 very expensive. So $10,000 for one that you can't eat in and $20,000 for one that you 55 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,880 can't, I didn't even know that you could eat inside of a food truck and it had zombies 56 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:13,020 in it. So I, if I had $20,000, I would want that truck. But we watched that and they're 57 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:17,680 not ready for that because we learned that Chris is having financial problems and she 58 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,180 kind of had been hinting around about it this season because we kind of learned about the 59 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:26,440 apartment being a little more expensive and that was an issue. So we've been seeing little 60 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,760 snippets of these financial issues, but she's going to have to go back to Alabama to fix 61 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,120 some things with her bank. They think that someone stole her identity because she's clearly 62 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,200 in another country swiping cards everywhere. So people are like, who is doing that? And 63 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:44,160 then there's some narcolepsy medication that they don't carry in Columbia that she needs 64 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,380 obviously. And I don't know how you can fix that. Can you ship medications overseas? Like 65 00:04:49,380 --> 00:04:52,560 I don't even know. Like these, this is all foreign to me, right? 66 00:04:52,560 --> 00:05:00,120 Oh, in my opinion, okay. Even if I just travel out of state, I always call my bank and let 67 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,940 them know it's me because I'm not going to run into any issues when I'm out of town. 68 00:05:04,940 --> 00:05:10,820 So why wouldn't you call your financial institution and let them know you're moving out of country? 69 00:05:10,820 --> 00:05:17,720 First of all, and second, you cannot tell me there's nobody with narcolepsy in Columbia. 70 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:27,640 That is, this is all piling up to something off. She is very, I want to say that she said, 71 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:33,080 I mean, she went insane. She had a lot of money. It's not looking, it does. And there's 72 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:39,800 so much unfolding and it breaks my heart for Jamie. I love Jamie. I think she's got the 73 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,720 most beautiful heart. When she cries, I cry. I don't know what it is about her. Oh my 74 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:52,520 gosh. Watching her cry just infuriated me. I got mad at Chris. It's just something's 75 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,720 unfolding and it's not going to be good. 76 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Yeah. I really hate it because Jamie really feels every time that Chris says she's going 77 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,600 to leave, she's never going to see her again. And marrying her didn't erase that feeling. 78 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,400 That feeling is still there because in the car when she said, if you don't come back 79 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,240 here, I'm going to burn your stuff. I believed every word that she said. She meant it. She 80 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:19,280 was like, I really would be beyond the point of heartbroken. I will be insanely upset and 81 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:24,320 angry to the point where I will not know how to live without you. And I feel like that 82 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,720 love is so strong. And I know they just met, right? It's only been like a month since they 83 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,040 physically met in person, but I feel like Jamie is in this forever. When she said when 84 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,800 it was their wedding, she's like, this is forever. I'm never getting married other than 85 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:44,000 to Chris. And I believe her. So I really hope that this isn't a way for Chris to skip town. 86 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,000 And I mean, she hasn't said that she would, but we don't know what all is going on behind 87 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,920 the scenes and how can you fix all of these things? And she said like a couple of weeks. 88 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,640 If there is a medical situation where you need to ship medication overseas, I know you 89 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,960 can't ship certain drugs overseas. There's like laws for all of that stuff. So I'm just 90 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,760 really worried about Jamie. 91 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,160 You can buy over the counter. She came, she should have set this up with her doctor to 92 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,280 for her mom to pick it up and her mom to be able to send it or something to that effect. 93 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,560 One of her children, she should have had all of this lined up. She, if Jamie gets her 94 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:25,080 heart broken, I'm going to be so furious. I mean, I feel like she's broken, but I just, 95 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,720 I won't be able to handle it if Jamie cries anymore. She just, that girl owns my heart. 96 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:36,380 She has put up with a lot on this short 30 days and I feel like she's such a trooper. 97 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:41,040 So I want to hop over on a plane and go to India because we want to talk about Rishi 98 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:47,080 and Rishi and his friend, Natesh, who is also an astrologer. They were in a dance club, 99 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,600 which to us Americans, it looks a lot like a strip club minus the pole. But Rishi said 100 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,280 that that is not the case. They do have hookah. The girls do dance very close to you and on 101 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,280 the floor and very centrally, but that is not the same thing. So I'm going to leave 102 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,560 that up to the interpretation of the viewer and I'm not going to go anymore into that. 103 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,720 But that is hiding in a broom closet. That was the weirdest thing to me when she was 104 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,880 done and she went in the closet and closed the door. I was like, this is the weirdest 105 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,580 thing I've ever seen. So we found from the astrologer, Natesh, that the best time for 106 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:24,800 Rishi to tell his parents about Jin and the engagement and her existence as his fiancee 107 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:32,560 is August 2nd at 4 p.m., which is insanely specific. I was like, I didn't know astrologers 108 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:37,740 and psychics and mediums could be that specific because when we ask them questions normally, 109 00:08:37,740 --> 00:08:42,960 we get a vague answer. And that was so specific. I was like, I kind of want to call him and 110 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:49,080 ask him for the lottery numbers because he gives direct answers. Well, that's like 50 111 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:55,800 something days from that time. And Jin is already in route and she's already angry because 112 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,840 she found out from Randy about the picture. And a lot of people were comparing the picture 113 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,380 on Twitter tonight and they were showing how different Rishi looked now from the picture. 114 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:09,280 And that kind of brings back to what you were talking about last week because you were like, 115 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:16,520 well, that picture is from 2017. It's not a recent picture. But Jin still confronted 116 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,320 him. They were at the oil drip massage and she still confronted him. And I think what 117 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,960 really rubbed her the wrong way, it wasn't that she thought that he was doing anything 118 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:29,240 wrong. It's more so that he didn't acknowledge it and he said that he didn't remember. And 119 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,880 it's like, if you don't remember doing it, does that mean that you didn't do it? Does 120 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,860 it mean that you do it so much you don't remember specifics? That's, I think, what got to Jin. 121 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:43,120 And I was just like, I would have felt better if he just would have admitted to it. I would 122 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,740 have felt much better that way. 123 00:09:44,740 --> 00:09:50,360 It also goes back to Randy because when Jin said, do you want to see my phone? He says, 124 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,960 yeah. And then she shows him and it's literally just the one text that Randy sent, the one 125 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:02,960 picture that Rishi sent that's all over the internet and nothing, there was no text stating 126 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,720 because Randy's the one that said they were making plans to meet up. That wasn't in writing. 127 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,360 So that's just her words. There's no proof that that actually happened. So him saying 128 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:19,600 no, I actually believe him. I don't think he did. I don't think he set anything up with 129 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Randy. I think that's Randy talking. 130 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Well, see, I kind of feel like there's evidence to support what you're saying because when 131 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,400 she said, can I see your phone? And he just handed it to her. I feel like someone who's 132 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,040 guilty will say, why do you want to see my phone? What do you want to look at? He literally 133 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,440 felt like he didn't do anything wrong because she kind of gave him a reason or a chance 134 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,240 to admit to anything before she showed him the evidence. And he was like, no, I don't 135 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,680 have anything to say. And then when she opened the phone, she was like, oh, you sent this 136 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:57,040 person a rose. And it's like, I don't know how texting and flirting works, but I feel 137 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,320 like social media is just one little overly friendly thing. I feel like people say things 138 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,880 really overly friendly on social media. You would never say in person to someone. So everything 139 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,760 comes across as flirty to me because I've left comments on people's posts before. And 140 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,040 then I've had people comment back and say, she has a boyfriend or she's married. And 141 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,800 I was like, oh, I wasn't like, that's not what I meant. But the way we talk on social 142 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:28,480 media, it always can look a certain way because there's no tone in text. So I don't know. 143 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,640 I don't feel like reaching, I mean, it's been three years and he is talking to the astrologer. 144 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,560 He is working towards telling his parents, which we didn't know if that was true or not, 145 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:43,520 but he does have a date, a specific date and time, 4 PM on that day. So I don't know. What 146 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,840 do you think Jen should do? Do you think Jen should let this go or do you think Jen should 147 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,200 push the issue? I think she needs to let that go completely. I think Randy blew it up and 148 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,000 made it something it's not. And it's just going to cause more problems. If there were 149 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,960 specifics saying, yeah, when you get here, I'll meet you at the airport or I'll meet 150 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,040 you at the train station or I'll meet you at this restaurant. There's none of that in 151 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:13,580 writing. That's Randy talking out her ass. I'm sorry, but it is. But the astrologer said, 152 00:12:13,580 --> 00:12:20,600 if you go back to three years ago, he told them it's going to be a long road for the 153 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:26,160 next three years, whatever time he saw him last time. So we're not to the three year 154 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,540 point. They've only been together for a couple of years. So we're not even to the three year 155 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:35,920 point. How can he give them a date of August 2nd now if it's not even if the three years 156 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,160 isn't even up. So now all of a sudden there's a good date in there. That's a good point. 157 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,440 You're right. Because we've this isn't the first time we've seen him on this season because 158 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,840 he was the friend that they brought over to disguise Jen as a friend when they met the 159 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,280 parents. So you're right. It hasn't even been close to that because Jen was only back in 160 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Oklahoma for like less than three months. So you're right. That makes no sense at all. 161 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,640 See now I don't believe it. See now you got me now. Now it's all a bunch of baloney, right? 162 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,760 It doesn't make sense to me either. I was like this guy, I don't care what he says. 163 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:16,100 He's just he's just talking. I want this to work between Jen and Rishi. But I just feel 164 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:21,640 like there's a lot against them. And the parents having the last say, I always feel like it's 165 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,960 going to be a horrible situation because no matter how much you love each other, it's 166 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,360 not up to you. And I feel like at this point, Jen doesn't know how she feels. Like when 167 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,960 she got on the plane, she told her sister-in-law, she's like, what am I doing? Like, where am 168 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,440 I going? And I feel like there's so much doubt. So I feel like while she's in India now, she 169 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:44,240 needs to get an understanding of where this relationship is, and even determine if this 170 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,620 is what she wants before they even involve his parents. Like they need to sit down and 171 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:52,360 get things together between the two of them figure out if you trust them or not. Because 172 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,560 if you don't trust them, there's no point of even being in India right now. 173 00:13:55,560 --> 00:14:01,760 Yeah, exactly. I just, I don't know. I think Randy planted this bad idea in her head. I 174 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,520 think that him prematurely telling her that he was going to tell the parents, I think 175 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,720 that the astrologer putting all these thoughts and ideas out there of certain times or certain 176 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,840 dates, I think that that's enough to mess with anybody's mind. So you combine all of 177 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,280 that and it's like, I wouldn't know what to believe. So I can understand Jen's confusion. 178 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Absolutely. 179 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,640 All right, guys, we've run out of time. Again, there's too much there's not enough time in 180 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,320 the world to talk about all this 90 day drama guys. All right. Thank you so much to my co 181 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,480 host Carl for joining me today. I'm George Massey. Make sure you're following me on all 182 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,680 social media platforms at George Massey georgemassey.com and anywhere you get your podcast. We will 183 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,640 talk to all of you guys very soon. 184 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:54,400 Bye guys.