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What is up everybody? We are back. I am George Mossey. This is the George Mossey show. Please
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say hello to my co-host, Sharona. So, Nayan De Fiance, the other way, Season 4, Episode
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6 is aired. We have a lot to talk about. This is part 2, so we need to talk about Debbie
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and Osama because she finally got on that plane and she landed in Morocco and she found
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the man of her dreams and he was waiting there with a couple of flowers and a hat on and
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she couldn't have been more happy to see him and the way that she looked at him, I was like,
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this is like real for Debbie. Like, I still can't read Osama, so I don't really know what's going
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on. Like, when, okay, so I'm going to say how I feel and I know it's going to piss people off,
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but I'm just going to say it. So, she walked up to him at the airport and he hugged her and he
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didn't kiss her and it bothered me because she moved across the world and I know that they met
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before and I know that in his religion it might not be very acceptable to do that, but she flew
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across the world and it's been a long time, a year or so since you've seen him. I needed to see
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some affection and I know it's a strange relationship. Like, I know that it's not like a
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bombshell beauty type relationship between either of them, but I needed to see a little bit more
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affection. So, when I saw that, I was like, now I'm kind of understanding a little more
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Julian's concerns, right? Because I was like, he's like, he's young and we don't know what his
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intentions are and when he didn't run and jump and kiss her, I was just like, I don't know. You
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know, I was like, I need to see that he's in it for Debbie and I know, I don't care how old she is,
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like, I just wanted to see that he wanted her there and that he wanted her in that way because
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I don't want him to use her. So, now I sound like Julian, right? I'm like, see, now I think something
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bad is going to happen because I'm worried now. I mean, I wonder if he didn't kiss her because
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of his culture and maybe he's not allowed to. Let's hope that's it because then that gives him
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a little bit more wiggle room, I guess. But yeah, I would have loved to see like, you know, like a
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big hug and like a kiss and like, you know, like some more sparks because like he said Debbie looked
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so happy and he's just like, in his little hat. Yeah, the energy level wasn't right for me. Like,
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Debbie was like in awe. Like, she literally was just standing there and she was just like staring
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into his eyes. I saw it for her. But for Osama, I was just like, I'm not seeing the matched energy
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and excitement. And I want to believe that the love is there. And this is a real relationship.
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But Julian has planted all these seeds of doubt, you know, in our minds. And it's like, I just need
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to know what's really going on because I feel like we have to protect Debbie at all costs, right?
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We have to make sure that she's not being mistreated. She's not being used and that she's safe.
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And I don't know, I just didn't feel that I know it was a super short scene. We didn't get a lot of
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it. I wanted to see Debbie interact with Osama's parents. Like that's going to be a big thing for
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me because I know in his culture, marrying a girl who would be the exact same age as him,
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but not his religion would be a huge issue. So the idea that he is trying to marry a woman who is
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67 years old, who is also not of his religion, could be like, World War, you know, crazy problems.
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So I'm just like, I don't know how this is going to happen and react because I know that she wants
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to get an apartment with him. So she wouldn't have to live with his family. I know that would
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have been a deal breaker already if she moved in with his family because Debbie is not the type
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to be dealing with anybody's craziness or just dislike for her relationships. I knew that wasn't
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going to work. So I'm just really excited to see more of this interaction between them. I didn't
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get enough to gauge it, but what I saw worried me. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, she is an independent lady,
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you know, she needs, she needs a man to match her energy. She needs someone on her level.
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And I mean, she talks about it and how they're like amazing together, but like we need to see it.
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Please show me. Okay. So I want to talk about Danielle and Johan, right? So after this huge
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argument about the abortion and okay, I want to clarify it wasn't about the abortion. It was about
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Johan not telling Danielle the complete story about what happened that made her so upset. So
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Johan came over after sleeping at his mom's house that night and he decided to finally explain to
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Danielle the full story. And we found out Johan wasn't given the full story right away. In fact,
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he was told after the fact by a different person that she actually ended the pregnancy. It wasn't
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something that he knew. She told Johan that she lost the baby. And then he found out through a
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friend of a friend, you know, someone who knew the situation later that that's what happened. And he
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said that that was a very hard thing for him to talk about. So him talking about it to Danielle
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would have brought up a lot of feelings because he really wanted the baby. And so now we got a little
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bit more of why he didn't really tell the full story because I don't want to say he lied because
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I feel like he did. She knew about the baby so he didn't lie, but she didn't get the full story.
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So now Danielle feels like they're closer to resolving that issue because now she understands
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where that came from, why it wasn't something that he told her. But she also feels like he's
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not ready to be in an adult healthy relationship because she feels like his communication is bad.
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But I do feel like Danielle is the type of person who makes a big deal out of everything.
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Like she's only been there for like a week or two and I feel like they fought a lot. Like there's
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been the butcher shop, this situation, like they're fighting a lot. And it's like, I don't know if
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either of them are ready to be in this marriage and it's kind of late because they're married
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already. But it's like, I don't know if they see eye to eye enough for this to work. And I know
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living together is going to be very, very difficult. And I know that's coming. So it's like, I don't
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know. I'm worried about them because last episode, Johan said, if you think I'm a liar and I'm toxic,
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we should just break up. And that's a huge red flag because you're married. You don't just break
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up when you're married. Yeah, I honestly, I feel like all they do is fight. So that's not a very
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good sign at all. Like that's terrible, honestly. They haven't even been married long enough to be
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fighting that long. And they haven't even been in the same country that long enough to be fighting
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as much as they are. And honestly, like, I kind of understand where Johan's coming from. Like he,
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that's a sensitive topic for a lot of people. Most people won't even admit to, I mean, if you,
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it's like statistically, like most, you know, it's like one or most women have had some kind of a
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miscarriage or an abortion. And most women don't talk about it. They don't openly talk about it.
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So a man also not wanting to talk about everything that happened. I get it. Like,
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especially when you want the child and you don't have the child, it's a difficult topic. And she,
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I'm sorry, but she really didn't have any right to be that upset. Because I mean, yes, it's his
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wife. But if he's not heard about it, he should have told her when he was ready to fully open up
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to her about that, instead of her pushing and pushing and pushing until he's like, fine, here
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it is. And then it made it a fight, which all they do is fight. I mean, I felt like this wasn't that
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big of a deal. And I also felt like it was the medical history of a woman that he's not with
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anymore. And it wasn't his place. I've always felt that way. Like if someone has had that procedure,
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it's never anyone's place to tell anyone that they did that ever. No circumstance makes it okay.
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That is something personal between that woman and the doctor and nurse or whoever who performed it
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and nobody else's business period. So I didn't like how she made it seem like it was information
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she was privileged to have. I didn't like that because that's not true. No, not at all. Yeah,
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that's no one else's business. But the woman and him, in the fact that he didn't even know,
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and he found out through someone else, I mean, it's really no one else. It really wasn't even
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her business. Like, yeah, he could tell her that she was, oh, another woman was pregnant.
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And whatever. But like, like you said, it's someone else's story to tell. And now it's
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broadcasted on television. And like, I don't really love that. I don't either. I don't.
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It's just very tasteless to me. Sorry, TLC. So we found out on this episode that Chris has a
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court date back in Alabama. So backstory, her dad, shortly before he passed away, gave her a very
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rare motorcycle that he had purchased. And he gave it to his daughter, Chris, and it's worth
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about $50,000. So I'm hoping that we're going to see a picture of it because I want to know
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what motorcycles worth that much, you know, because I don't know a lot about motorcycles.
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I was like, I want to see this motorcycle 50 grand. Okay. So the guy who stole it, they caught him.
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And in order for him to be prosecuted, Chris would need to go back to Alabama to be president
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in court to testify, I'm assuming. So the issue is Chris will be gone during the time that they
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plan for their wedding, which was nine days from the day that she arrived. So she would actually
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be physically not in the country for the wedding. And now I want to talk about what really caught
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my attention. So remember when Chris told us that she ghosted Jamie. So we found out from Jamie that
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she ghosted her on her birthday. So let me just throw this out there like, oh, and she'd ghosted
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her for a month. If you ghost me on my birthday, I'm blocking you. And if I ever see you in public,
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I'm throwing water on you or something like I'm done with you. So the idea that Jamie and Chris
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are together now, they love each other because if let me just say you ghost me on my birthday,
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you leave me hanging because she was supposed to come and see your spin that weekend with her,
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whatever you leave me hanging, we're never speaking again, like ever, I will hold the
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grudge forever till the rest of my life. Like I'm pissed off at you. So the fact that that happened
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was super bad. And Chris kind of left that out when she told us about it in the earlier episode.
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She's just like, Oh yeah, I ghosted her because she was needy. She left out the fact that it was
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her birthday. I feel like you have the right to be needy on your birthday. You have the right
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to do whatever you want on your birthday because it's your birthday. So I was really bothered by
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that. And now Jamie is like, well, lookie, again, you're saying that you're going to go back and
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you're probably going to ghost me again. And I feel like that's a warranted feeling because
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she's been through it. And not just for any reason, she was left alone on her birthday when she needed
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the person she loved the most. Yeah, that breaks my heart. I feel like every time we see Chris,
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there's something else that's insane that has happened to her. Like girl, what else is in your
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like little bag of tricks? Like come on, what, what else? I mean, honestly, every episode,
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it's something that's like groundbreaking, like what? And I mean, the fact that like Jamie doesn't
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even know most of these things is crazy. Like, what did they talk about for as long as they were
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talking? Like, what did they communicate? I do not know. The fact that she has this intolerable
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neck pain. And Jamie is actually seeing it firsthand for the first time in this episode.
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And she literally felt hopeless and helpless and scared. She was just like, I don't know what happened.
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She was fine. Now she's crying. She's in someone's pain. And I saw the panic and Jamie's asked because
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she doesn't know how to do anything in this situation. She's like, I don't know how to fix it.
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I don't know how to make her feel better. It's just so chronic and terrible in the pain. So she
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had a doctor come out to the house who gave her an injection to help with the pain in her neck.
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But it seems like she's going to have to have that surgery. It's not something that she's going
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to be able to put off. And I know that the surgery costs $100,000 in America. I wonder if it will
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be cheaper for her to have the surgery in Columbia. And that way she wouldn't have to spend a year
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recovering away from Jamie. Then Jamie would be there with her to help her recover. Because I know
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that Jamie is super worried about her leaving for a year. And she's like, well, what if she,
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you know, recovers and then ghosts me again and doesn't come back? That's warranted. I feel that.
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I feel you on that. So I was like, maybe since things are a lot cheaper in Columbia and the
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doctors are just as good, like maybe it's possible she would be able to get this done in Columbia.
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That way she doesn't have to leave. And then I don't know if she should do it before the wedding
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or after, because I know it's going to be a year for her to cover. And I know they don't wait that
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long. I don't think her visa is even that good. So she would have to maybe suffer through the pain
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to get married first and then do it. So this is just a really tricky situation.
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Yeah. I mean, she should probably just do the surgery there. I mean, that's where Gabe's getting
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his surgery. A lot of people go to Columbia to get their entire bodies redone. So I mean,
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I think she's in pretty good hands. And then she wouldn't have to be away from her. And then they
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could, you know, be married and just, you know, then Jamie can take care of her. Why did she
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need to go back to Alabama? I mean, I guess if she has like insurance, but if she's going to be living
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in another country, that insurance isn't even going to be valid. So. Yeah, that's true. If you have an
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insurance policy here, but you live in another country, it's, I don't think you could keep it,
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right? Like, you have to be a resident. I'm pretty sure you have to be a resident where the
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insurance policy was purchased. So yeah, I mean, I want them to work out, but I feel like Jamie,
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like you said, has been taking on a lot of information at a, in a very short amount of time.
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And I love the fact that she's strong and she's not running away because I'm pretty sure there's
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probably in the back of her mind, like, whoa, another thing, like you said, what next, what next,
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how much more can we take it out? I said it earlier. I was like, Chris has such bad luck.
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Like so many horrible things. Like when she said that she accident broken,
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can honor her home from the hospital, had another cracks. And I was like, girl,
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that sounds like black magic, like voodoo. Like that is crazy. Like the fact that this
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has happened to you and all these things she's had to endure, it's just crazy. So I'm just hoping
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that she can get the surgery in no way that she can go on with the pain in her life the way it is
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right now. No, it looked so, oh, I just felt for her that second. I was just like, oh my god, like
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you poor thing, but like, oh yeah, she might want to look into some doctors in Columbia.
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Yes. And hopefully she's able to not have to go to court to get the money for that bike or to get
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him prosecuted, whatever the situation is. Hopefully she doesn't have to get back on a plane
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because the doctor said a lot of times the pain is put on by long plane rides. So that would even
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make it even more worse. All right, guys, we ran out of time. That's it for this episode of the
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George Massey show. Night Day Fiancé, the other way, season four, episode six. This was part two.
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