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What is up everybody? We are back. I am George Massey. Say hello to my co-host Heather C.

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So it's extreme sisters. If you weren't there, there were no apostle triplets this week.

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I think it's been the last episode. So next week we're going to find out about them. But

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Randy and Jordan were back. Randy and Jordan had taken a week off as well. And Randy is

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not feeling well. She had some alcohol and she said that normally when her sister is

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sick, it's something that they ate or drank and you know alcohol can make anyone feel

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sick, especially the harder liquor. So that's probably what it was. And Jordan is her caretaker

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because the guys are usually working late. So Jordan is there to take care of her and

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Jordan is actually there helping her and holding her hair while she throws up. And that is

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a very close bond to have because like Jordan said, like for me too, the sound of it, the

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smell of it, all of the idea of it, I don't want to be within like 500 feet of someone

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who is throwing up or even seeing the aftermath of it. It's just, it's a lot. So the fact

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that she was there for her sister really showcases how close they are and how much she is there

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to be her caretaker. Because if someone calls me and says I'm sick, I'm like, Oh, that's

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terrible. Let me know. You feel better. You know, I'm not interested in being a part of

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that crazy smell and sound and all of that. So we were watching Jordan make plans for

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their wedding. So we know that Jordan planned everything. She planned the engagement and

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she is now planning the wedding, wedding venue. Now, he wants to get married in their own

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home, which would be a lot cheaper. It's familiar. And she's having about 40-ish people. We haven't

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seen the whole house. I don't know if that is outrageous to try to do, but Randy said

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it's going to be seen on top of sardines if they try to have 40-ish people in the house.

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So she decided that her boss, who is a doctor who has a beautiful home with a courtyard,

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who has offered up her home to house the wedding and the reception for free. As far as I heard,

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I didn't hear her say that she was going to charge them anything, which I think is an

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amazing opportunity. She has brought that up to Randy, but Randy feels like Derek wanted

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to get married in their home. So she feels like Jordan is just not giving him the opportunity

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to make any decisions or plan the wedding. And even if he tried, she wouldn't allow it.

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And I feel like in the next episode, we're going to watch them kind of go against each

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other. They're going to start standing up to each other, especially Randy standing up

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to Jordan because Jordan is the dominant twin. She takes control and she makes decisions

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for everyone. Even if it's an easy decision, she just makes that decision. So I'm wondering

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how this is going to go because we do know that Jordan is trying to invite herself onto

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the honeymoon with Randy and Derek. And you know, that's a bit crazy, right? The honeymoon

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is literally for those two. So do you think that this is going to affect their relationship?

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Taking Randy up to her sister because I don't think she's ever done that before.

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I don't think so. I think in the end, Jordan's still going to get what she wants because

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like you said, she's pretty dominant and she knows how to get what she wants. But I like

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that about her. She's, you know, take charge type of girl. And I think that that's kind

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of cool because a lot of people are always so indecisive in life and she just knows what

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she wants. And I don't blame her for not wanting to have the wedding at their home because first

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of all, that's very invasive. You're having 40 something people over at your house. You

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have to worry about like, where's this person? Where are they going? Oh, do they spill something

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on my carpet? You know, like, are people like ruffling through my medicine cabinets?

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Like, it's just, and then what about all the cleanup afterwards? Like when stuff is over

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and you have big parties and events, all you want to do is take off your shoes, sit on

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the couch and just be like, oh, and it's like, you can't, how do you relax when you have

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your house just destroyed? So I don't blame her for wanting to kind of push her sister

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into the direction of somewhere else. I think that that's very, very amazing of her boss

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to offer up her brand new house because same case scenario. But in this one, it doesn't

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even have anything to do with you. It has to do with your coworker. And you're letting

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these people in your brand new house just living it up. So I mean, that that takes a

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lot because if anything happens, Jordan's going to feel responsible if something breaks

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or you know, something like that, she has to kind of treat her boss's house like it's

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her own anyways. So I don't know, maybe they should just kind of put like a list of like

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pros and cons of to like the different things like here, her sister out, why does she want

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to get married here? Is it her sister or is it the groomsman? You know, which one is it?

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You know, I just kind of listened to all the case scenarios and see if they can come up

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with something so that way it won't drive a wedge between them.

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Okay, so I need to talk about this Vian Ashley situation because first of all, we learned

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something about Ashley. She is in school to be a mortician and she currently works at

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a funeral home and she said that she not only loves working at the funeral home, she loves

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working with the dead. She said that it's a job that she enjoys and she doesn't really

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see herself doing anything else. And it's very quiet and they don't have an opinion.

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So I don't blame her. True, true. They don't they don't argue with you. There's no disagreements.

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Whatever you say, go see Jordan would like that because Jordan just likes to say how

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it's going to be and that's how it's going to be. I feel like Jordan could do that job

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too, right? Yeah.

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So we found out that the Syraguse situation, the IVF and transferring it to a Syraguse

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is a $28,000 process. Now I think I said this on the other podcast. I feel like Vian Ashley

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did things a little out of order. Like I feel like the amount of it should have been something

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that they kind of did first, you know, because I don't know. But again, I can't blame anybody

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because when that number showed up on the screen, it shocked me. I didn't know that it

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costed that much to do this. I do know that Syraguse charge a lot of money to carry the

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baby. But I assume since V was the Syraguse and there will be no money exchange, the number

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will be so much lower. That was just my assumption. So I'm not going to blame anybody for not

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knowing it's a $30,000 process because I didn't even know. But the idea that it's going to

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cost so much money is insane to me and they didn't budget for that. Like maybe they did

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budget for $10,000, but $30,000 is not in the budget. So Ashley said something that

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kind of hit V and it set her off. She said, I'm just going to get a dog. V was like, well,

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I almost basically ended my relationship. My family's not talking to me. Your mom just

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tried to beat me up and you're just going to say you want a dog after I've offered up

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my body and my life and change all these things for you. And she just wanted her to, I don't

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know, not necessarily apologize, but just be a little more sensitive to the fact that

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she put a lot into this as well. But I think in this moment, Ashley felt so defeated because

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she said that she had been getting so much bad news from doctors lately that she just

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was shutting down and she didn't really want to talk about it at all. She didn't want to

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talk about the pros, the cons, the options, the solutions, the res, none of that. It was

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basically get me some liquor in this cup and just let me be in my feelings. And I feel

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like V was ready to talk and Ashley was ready to shut down and glasses were thrown, glass

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was broken, yelling, and I'm worried about their friendship because I kind of thought

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that this was going to bring them closer. If this situation is the case, but if this

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situation gets them less close, it tears them apart. It makes their relationship strained

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and that would be the absolute worst, right? It would, but I don't think that's going to

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happen, to be honest with you. I think that they're strong enough to get through this.

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See what I think a lot of people might say is that, oh, was V in the wrong for, you know,

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how she acted at the restaurant? And no, she wasn't. First of all, you could tell that

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they're both passionate people, but they carry their feelings differently. Like I feel like

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how you had said, I think that Ashley had that moment where she just kind of felt defeated.

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And if she would have came out and been like, okay, so here's my checklist. You know, I

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got this, it worked out this, we got to work on it. This, and then you get to the money

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situation, you're like, at this point, you're like, is there anything else? You know, is

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there really anything else? And it's like, if you sit there and you dwell on it, you're

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going to sink into depression, you're going to be upset. And at that moment, whether or

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not she handled it the right way or not, to herself, she handled it how she could, because

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she didn't want to have a breakdown. And maybe she should have, maybe she should have let

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her emotions show. So that way, she could see that she's passionate, because first of all,

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I don't fault V at all for how she acted. I don't even think that she overreacted, because

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I think that she looks at it like, are you kidding me? Because you can only read what

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people are giving you. So if Ashley doesn't say to her, oh my God, I'm so upset, you know,

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why is this happening to me? If the only thing she's saying to her is, well, guess what,

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dog, she's like, what the heck, you know, like, like you said, this my body, my relationship,

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my kids, everything. And you don't even want to address this. Like, I understand completely.

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And I think that she feels that she's going to be portrayed as a bad guy in the situation.

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And she's really not, if anything, she's one of the most compassionate people towards

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her sister. She's been consistently on her sister's side through this whole process.

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When everybody else kind of either turned their nose up or looked at her crazy, her

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sister was there, writing it along with her. And that's why she was so passionate. That's

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why she, you know, got into the moment and you know, through the glass because she was

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acting on passion. She was acting as, oh my God, I give a damn, why don't you? And you

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want this baby? It can't just be me. Like, are we really going to give up? And I think

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that it just wasn't explained. Their words were not brought the right way. But I really

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do believe that in that moment, they're just, they were on the same page, but they weren't

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because they didn't address it the right way.

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I mean, I hope so because the way she smacked that cup off the table, I was like, oh, I

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don't know how well this friendship is going to last of these sisters because she is so

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angry in this moment. And I didn't know if she was angry at the fact that Ashley was

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like dismissing the idea of all of the work and the compromise that she had for her or

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she was just angry at the fact that Ashley was coming up. Because I couldn't really tell

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because I feel like V knows how much she wants this. So she's probably more angry at the fact

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that Ashley is just like, oh, I saw that number and it's too much. So oh well. And that's the

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thing. And there are options. And V's right, there are options. There's payment plans.

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Like there's people who want new noses. They don't have the money for those new noses.

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They get on a payment plan. They make it happen. If you really want something done, there are

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options out there. And I just feel like V wanted Ashley just to be undefeated and be

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open to a solution. But I will say this, when I'm upset and I'm sad and defeated, I just want to

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sit in the corner for like a few hours and feel bad for myself. That's just how I deal with myself.

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So it could be possible that Ashley wasn't giving up. She just needed a moment, you know,

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a moment to just sit there. I'm like, V, that's what I see. I'm very compassionate. I'm very

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strong minded. And I like, I want to find the resolution right then and there. And if I know

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and if I believe in something, I want the person to know how passionate I am. And even if I look

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crazy or overreact, I want you to know like, oh my God, we can do this. Like, why are you giving up?

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So that's why I understand why she handled it the way that she did. She loves her and she wants

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her to have that baby. So hopefully we will see this baby be seen this season because I don't want

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them to give up. They went through so much. And I've already told everyone the fans type of,

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and I mean, it will undo a lot of the negative responses if it doesn't happen. But that's not

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what we really want because why can't she have this baby? You know, like why not? It's not hurting

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anyone. She's bringing a baby into the world that she's going to love and take care of. And it's

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going to be loved by so many different people. And even her mom, Dana, I don't care what Dana

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says. Dana's going to love that little girl, right? That baby is going to be born and Dana's

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going to forget all about where it came from and be carried or whatever. She's not going to care

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about that. She's just going on to want to hold her grandbaby and everybody is going to be one big

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happy family. So that's what we really want. And I hate to see that people are spending $28,000

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just to have a child. That is ridiculous. Everyone should have the right and option to have a child.

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If you can afford it and you can love that child, you should have that option. I feel like that

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number is outrageous. I wish there was some other way to have it done other than spend that much

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money. I feel the same way. I think the $28,000 should go after the baby's born for taking care of

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it. College health care. I don't think that with the way the world is that we should have to pay

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that much to all this stuff that probably doesn't even cost half of that. It's not fair to people.

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The way that we're treated in this world is horrible. You should never have to choose medicine

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or rent. All right, guys. That's all the time we have this week. So we will be back next week to see

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more of Vee and Ashley and more of Randy and Jordan because I heard from a little birdie that

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we're going to actually see a wedding between Randy and Derek this season. So I'm kind of interested

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in seeing where the venue will be. All right, guys, I'm George Massey. Make sure you follow me at

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GeorgeMasiGeorgeMasi.com and anywhere you get your podcasts. And please follow my co-host Heather C

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as well. Her links are right here at the bottom and we're going to talk to all of you guys very, very soon.