What's up, everybody? It's George. I'm George
Massey. It's the George Massey Show. I'm here
with my bestie, Gina, and we're going to talk
about some breaking news and some crazy things
that have been happening lately in the world.
And Gina, I was just talking to you about this.
Gina, do you feel like, oh, this is the pop culture
podcast, by the way, do you feel like lately?
there's been a lot of people dying like every
time i open my phone there's like an announcement
of a death and i'm a little freaked out like
you know usually celebrity deaths happen in threes
but now i feel like they're happening in like
eights now like what's going on i i don't know
we we had touched base briefly on this uh and
i don't know if it's just I don't know, I'm not
that big of a religious person, but I do believe
in signs type of thing. So maybe it's a good
question to ask Juliana one day, like why? I
believe that it's been proven, well not proven,
but during this time of what they call Lent and
Catholicism just before Easter, I find that a
lot of people do pass away. But again, it could
be just me reading into it too much, but that's
what I believe. Like within a week or two, there's
been like eight people to nine people that passed
away in my like in the parish that I attend to
sometimes when I want to go so and I was saying
like one funeral was like last week one day my
dad went today to one he's going tomorrow to
another one so I don't know I don't know if it's
like that time of year like The grid reaper is
upon us. I don't know. I hate to laugh at it,
but I like it's just it's just bizarre. Like
it always happens like in multiples during this
time, like just before Easter. So I don't know.
I'm scared to open my phone because people have
been passing away and it's been like shocker
after shocker. And we're going to get into some
some. talk of like celebrities, passings and
things that follow it. But first, I want to ask
you, um, because I know you had mentioned to
me that you were unaware that James van der Beek
had been suffering from I believe it was cancer.
Look, look, okay. It was a few years ago when
it was announced. Okay. For me, for the love
of Jesus, I can't even remember what I did like
three months ago. Then there was something that
was announced and like basically there was no
follow -up. Like I don't want to say TMZ didn't
like report on his like well -being from time
to time, but I didn't see anything of that sort
of nature. until he passed away. So yeah, I'm
insensitive for not knowing. But at the same
time, like, it wasn't like a yearly thing would
be like, like, hey, like TMZ or any news outlets
reporting on, like the progression of the cancer
or whatnot. I didn't see anything. If I saw anything,
it would bring a trigger. Like, oh, right. Whoa.
I knew about it, but you know, I think maybe
because you're in a different country, it's possible
that what we were talking about could be different
from what you were talking about. There were
like check -ins, you know, every now and then,
you know, regarding and revisiting his cancer.
And I think that he was in stage three clorectal
cancer, I believe. I'm not familiar with that,
but I know that. He wasn't even in the fourth
stage or, you know, fourth stage is the last
stage. And his battle was getting worse and worse.
So I think that this one was a little shocking
because a lot of people, you know, were hoping
that he was going to get better. Right. And unfortunately,
he didn't. And I know that he had a bunch of
kids. when you say like multiple kids I'm trying
to say one two three four five six maybe six
I'm looking at a photo of him and his babies
and it's like six kids and this leads me to my
next topic because there's a new thing a new
trend that's happening where celebrities um Dead
or alive, I want to bring that up. Doesn't necessarily
mean that person has passed away, but there are
times where celebrities will open a GoFundMe
account. Now, we have to remember talking about
this, the late James Van Der Beek obviously did
not open a GoFundMe. This happened after he passed.
But a lot of people are having mixed feelings
on things like this because they're like, oh,
well. The normal person, a normal everyday person
may never see a million dollars in their whole
life. And then celebrities may see 10, 15, 20
million in their whole life. What is the protocol
for someone who's had so much money in their
lifetime of asking for money? And we're gonna
talk about this also with Eric Dane, who also
unfortunately passed away recently. And there's
a go from me going on with that. And Gina, the
reason why I'm bringing this up is because...
um you know the internet nothing gets past the
internet the internet found some records that
um james van der beek and his family purchased
a multi -million dollar ranch and um i believe
it was almost five million dollars gina and this
was about one month before his unfortunate passing
so a lot of people online are saying oh well
Why would you buy a $4 .9 million home, you know,
and then after passing, ask people to help donate
to make sure that his children are taken care
of. A lot of people are arguing that they could
have stayed in the home that they were in and
then use that $4 .9 million to support his children.
So, and again. This is a super touchy subject
because I don't want anyone to feel like, you
know, we don't care about the passing of James
Enrique or his family or his kids or whatever.
But this is, you know, the Internet is talking
and I don't know how I feel about it because,
you know, I'm not a millionaire and I don't know
what it's like to have, you know, more money
than I know what to do with it. And I'm never
going to be able to afford a five million dollar
house. So I don't know what it's like to be in
that situation. But how do you feel, Gina? Do
you have any thoughts on it whatsoever? Like,
because I know You know, you're a big celebrity
fan, a pop culture fan. You follow along with
a lot of things that celebrities are doing in
their lives and their personal lives and real
estate and things like that. So do you have any
thoughts on this? Like, here's the thing. Right?
Like if I'm going to donate anything, I'm going
to like any funds to anywhere, it's going to
be a not like a nonprofit organization or like
work like a children's hospital or like, because
not like giving doesn't make you a better person.
It's your actions that make you a better person
in life. So at the same time, it's most like
most of the people that are giving are like are
celebrity statured, right? The average celebrity
will not donate every time someone posts a go
fund me for whatever reason. So, and like, I
know somebody, her daughter has, or I knew of
someone, but we were friends, no longer friends,
and who her daughter has this heart condition
or whatnot. And it's just so repetitive, like,
the GoFundMe is like just everything all the
time. Like, oh, I need you know, those machines
to give you like, what's it called that Ray J
has or whatnot, like she needs to carry one of
those. Oh, he needs money for that defibrillator.
Yeah, or something like that like and it costs
like this much money and like at the end of the
day Just things led up to it where I'm like,
I'm kind of done like and as you know Canada
we have a Great health care system. It might
be it has it's like obviously downfalls due to
the fact like Like waiting rooms and stuff like
that, but we have a pretty decent health care
system up here Like a universal healthcare system
up here. You can't tell me that the government's
not helping you. And the funds that you're collecting
or making donations to Children's Hospital here,
you want it in your name so you can claim it
as a tax break. Get the fuck out of here. I don't
think so. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done with it.
Like we're no longer friends anymore. Whatever.
I don't care. Like I care about her daughter
and her condition, obviously, but at the end
of the day, like get jobs right. Her daughter's
not in school and her daughter doesn't like she's
homeschooled, but doesn't even have a proper
like the proper education she should be getting
at the end of the day. So it's just really like
annoying. So my GoFundMes, they don't like I
hate to be an insensitive person, but they just
they just don't do anything for me. You will
not see me donating to GoFundMe. Well, see, another
thing that I noticed was a lot of celebrities
will when someone passes away, their other, you
know, celebrity friends will be like, oh, I'm
so sad and they'll post their condolences and
they'll post nice sweet things and then they'll
share the GoFundMe. And the thought came to my
mind, Gina, I was like, if you are a celebrity
and you've been a celebrity your whole life,
you know, you've done multiple huge movies or
TV shows, series, whatever. The idea that you
have so many rich friends, you know, like celebrity
friends and like the idea that... I heard a story
on the radio that I think Johnny Depp had let
Eric Danes and his family live in one of his
homes rent free while he was battling ALS. And
I thought that that was a really nice and stand
up thing to do when someone is going through
a lot. Whether you're a celebrity or not, your
medical bills don't change. Your medical bills
are still gonna be high. And it made me think
about it. I was like, well, if he was doing that,
I was like, What other celebrity friends might
he have had who might want to also help? Because
shifting into the Eric Dane situation, when he
passed away, he left two daughters and he was
separated from his wife, but he was dating someone
else. And I believe the woman that he was dating
is the one that opened the GoFundMe for her and
the daughters. And a lot of people are, you know,
the Internet, you know, they're like, oh, well,
You know, he was married to a very famous actress.
I believe her name is Rebecca Gayheart. And they
are separated, obviously, but he shares those
daughters with this celebrity woman. And a lot
of people are saying, why wouldn't the mother?
take care of those children, right? And I think
that that's a very valid question. You know,
why is it the public's responsibility? And Gina,
like you said, I think a lot of people have lost
personal responsibility and personal accountability,
and they think that anything that goes wrong
or anything that happens, the public is now responsible
for your situation to solve your problem. And
I think the GoFundMe era that we're in, it's
really making people have a false sense of entitlement
to other people's money. You know, and it's just
hard for me, Gina, because I watch so many horrible
stories happen online all the time where a parent
might pass away from cancer or in a car accident
and they leave behind, you know, terrible something
like two tiny children, something terrible. And
since they weren't a celebrity, You know, nobody
really is doing anything for those kids, but
it's like since a celebrity passed away and they
left behind children, it almost seems like we're
holding those children like they're... at a higher
standard. We have to make sure those celebrity
kids are okay. All of the kids should be okay,
Gina, right? Actually, I lied. The last time
I donated to GoFundMe was when that incident
happened here last year in April near my house
where basically a driver drove and killed a lot
of people during a festival. There was a lot
of people that were in the hospital and obviously
the hospital is covered obviously because like
I said healthcare system but it's the after right
to support them after they get out of the hospital
for those that survived right because you have
to remember in that situation Gina some like
in a lot of people can't work because they're
that injured or they have post traumatic stress
like whatever it is they can't they can't work
Right. It's just, I want to be as open to it
as possible, but I also think that there's just
so many and we can't help everyone. And I guess
a lot of people will post online, they're like,
oh, well, if you don't want to donate, don't
keep scrolling. And I think that if it touches
you to donate, it touches your heart and you
feel like it's something that you need to do,
you should. And I think that when you're drawn
to a situation or a story or a tragedy, you know,
get personally involved in that and try to do
your part. Even if it's $10, whatever your part
is, you know, do that. And I just think that
the celebrity ones that have been popping up
lately, and I know we, in the 90 -day world,
we talk a lot about 90 -day. I know the cast
member, Nikki Exotica posted one recently where
she was asking for $50 ,000. just because she
said she wanted to restart her life. She didn't
have any medical condition. She wasn't diagnosed
with any terminal disease. She just said she
wanted $50 ,000, you know? And I think at this
point, we're getting to the point where people
have no shame. Dignity? Dignity? Yeah, I mean,
because just saying you want $50 ,000 because
you want to restart your life just because, you
know, and asking the public to give you that,
I think it's crazy. You know, and there's different
situations like this situation where James Vanderbeek
left behind five or six children asking for money
is a little more warranted than just saying,
I just want to restart my life. You know, like
I think there are different levels, you know,
to the level of need. But I do think that we're
so quick to whenever I hate to go to that that
meme where they say. a minor inconvenience, you
know, we're ready to ask for help. And I think
that a lot of times people don't try to help
themselves. They just go directly to help me.
Right. Yeah, help me. Help me. Help me. And I
think that we definitely need to get back into
the personal accountability, you know, and a
lot of celebrities, you know, maybe they're mismanaging
their money because again, Gina, you and I will
never understand what it's like to have $20 million
at one point in the bank will never understand
that will not will will never understand what
it's like to buy a $5 million house and still
have money left over, you know, so that's how
much houses go here for like 2 million. But did
you buy one? money coming into my ass. That's
what I'm saying. We're not going to be able to
understand that. So again, I hate to, I just,
I don't know, the internet is there's a lot of
mixed feelings. A lot of people feel like this
is ridiculous. We can't be giving millionaires
money. And we know exactly. Like the, the thing
is if you're going to support their kids or whatnot,
um, one of the kids he survived, but his parents
and younger like, his baby brother had passed
away in that festival. And the funds that were
donated are put into a trust until he reaches
like 18 or 19 years old. And that's what his
like his caretaker had put it like that. Like
this will be put into a trust. I mean, I feel
like that's how it should be. Because when you
know, I always go back to the honey boo boo story.
Gina because remember the Here Comes Honey Boo
Boo show that girl Alana Thompson was paid in
check or whatever to her mother because she was
a minor. You can't pay a child because there's
child labor laws and later after that show was
gone and everything that the money that was supposed
to be sat aside for this girl when she became
of age was spent by the mother. So I always go
back to that. I was like, it's important that
when you want to help take care of children that
it goes into a bank that no one else can touch
you know and exactly and like sometimes there
is um like there's fine print too you can't just
take out the money for whatever the heck you
want it has to be your education it has to be
like it has there's speculations on like if you
put your money in a trust that some parents will
put onto the accounts that it has to be used
for education. It has to be used for a house.
It has to be used for an apartment. It can't
be used for like what exactly you want. It's
an improvement in your life. Like for career
choices, for life choices, right? Like it's not
to spend it on a weekend or like go on trips
or whatever. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah,
and it's unfortunate that you have to do that.
But we've seen so many times where misuse of
funds and people taking advantage of, especially
when children are in the entertainment industry
at a young age, their parents kind of see them
as a source of income or a source of money. And
unfortunately, those children are taken advantage
of, which kind of brings us into another topic
that we were going to discuss. Aaron Carter's
mom, this was a recent story on TMZ Today actually,
said that his ex, so Aaron Carter, who unfortunately
passed away I believe in 2022, December, I believe,
or November, December 2022, he had a baby with
a woman named Melanie Martin, his son's name
is Prince, and Aaron Carter's mom made the accusations
that Melanie, who is Aaron's... baby mama, lack
of a better term, made unauthorized withdrawals
from the late Aaron Carter's bank accounts. And
she brought that story up to TMZ recently, which
I kind of find to be a little bogus because if
Aaron Carter passed away, wouldn't his next of
kin be his son? And if Melanie is making withdrawals
from the account, I would assume it's for their
son, which would be what the money should be
used for. So my question, Gina, does the mom
think that the money is more hers than the sons?
Because that would be crazy, right? Maybe knowing
like knowing his mom. Well, yeah, I was just
about to say that his mom. Gina and I have watched
all the documentaries, all of the Carter documentaries,
and I think, Gina, you watched House of Carters,
their little reality show that they had way back
in the... Yes. If anyone knows anything about
me, anything Backstreet Boys related is underneath
my belt. Yeah, so we know that she does not have
the best reputation in any aspect of the word.
You know, she kind of... I don't want to say
used her kids as like pawns to make money, but
she kind of did, right? Like she kind of did,
you know, she pushed them into the entertainment
industry. And unfortunately, it had an effect.
It affected them very negatively. And later in
life. And I think it's crazy to me that of all
of the things going on, you know, Aaron, first
of all, he passed away in 2022. His son was,
oh, my gosh, maybe one years, a baby. Yeah. And
the idea that the mother of that child, which
is, let's be real here, Jane is the grandmother
of this child, you know, not just Aaron's mom,
this is the grandmother of Prince. She would
even have the audacity to say, oh, you're spending
Aaron's money. I mean, it kind of is his son's
money, right? The next of kin would be his son
because Aaron was a grown adult when he passed
away. So when he passed away, he wasn't a child.
So when you pass away as an adult, your next
of kin would be the person, if you don't have
a will, might I add, your next of kin would be
your child or children or spouse. Now, he didn't
have a legal spouse. He wasn't married to Melanie,
but he did have a child with her. So that would
make her authorized. In my opinion, again, I'm
not a legal. Um, i'm not a lawyer or anything,
but in my opinion She would be authorized to
withdraw money from any accounts that he left
behind because she's raising his next of kin
Right, like that's the thought process Exactly.
I don't know what he anticipates his mom to do
like unfortunately I hate to say this but they
did come from what seemed like as we seen like
we can't believe everything that we see on tv,
but we saw a good A good part of it. It seemed
like a very broken home Right? Because not even
like even his sister has passed away of an overdose.
He passed away of drowning. It's a very like
it's a very turmoil family, unfortunately. Right.
So it's very yeah. Like his like his sister passed
away. Like there's only I think Nick and another
sister of his that are still alive. So I know
Bobby Jean Carter passed away. Leslie Carter
passed away. I think Angel. Angel is still here.
That would be Aaron's twin sister, I believe.
Yes, that's correct. Aaron is still alive. Nick
is still alive and Angel is still alive. Aaron,
unfortunately, is not still alive. Yeah, this
is kind of a traumatic story. You know their
story reminds me a lot of the Kennedy story.
You know, it's very tragic and so many unexplained
deaths and so much turmoil and pain. And you
just really, you really feel bad for what these
kids went through. Because as a kid, you know,
you shouldn't be responsible for making enough
money to make sure the family survives. You should
just be playing with Legos. You know, and these
kids had to take on the responsibility of raising
their family and no children should have that
responsibility. So, you know, watching how it
affected them later in life. It's kind of, it
kind of shows you, you know, with Michael Jackson,
you know, all of these child stars, they took
on too much responsibility at such a young age.
Michael made it much longer than Aaron did, obviously,
but it still had the same effect on him as it
did to Aaron. Yeah, so basically, Leslie had
passed away, Aaron's passed away, and Bobby Jean
has passed away. So all there's only two siblings
left, which is angel and Nick Right angel Nick
and I guess their dad Robert Jean also passed
that is correct. Oh Wow, it's just wow out of
this whole big family. There's only Three three
three people still left alive. This is it's such
a tragedy and It's so unfortunate to see because
what I think bothered me the most was the the
animosity and accusation coming from Jane towards
Melanie because at the end of the day, that's
your past deceased son's mother, child's mother,
right? So you would want to have a good relationship
with her, not accuse her of stealing. Right?
And I think that that's such a a horrible thing
to do publicly to, instead of building a relationship
with the only thing left of your son, right?
Prince is his son. It's the only thing we have
left to remind us of his legacy. And instead
of building a close relationship and bond with
him and his mother, you're gonna go publicly
to TMZ and say that she's a thief? Like, that's
such a terrible thing. And it just shows you
how chaotic and... ridiculous, the family dynamic
is because it kind of seems like it's, it's it's
not a family dynamic at all. It's everyone against
everyone. And unfortunately, in that situation,
no one is going to win. Mm hmm. Exactly. So I
think there was a lot of drug, alcohol, like
just a very not stable Like household basically
from what obviously we see we can't depict everything
we see on TV because a lot of it is for the cameras.
But from what we there's just too many lives
that have been lost in this family due to different
circumstances. Yeah, it just makes you question
everything like the Kennedy situation. You just
like what is happening? Why are all these people?
And speaking of, so I don't know how closely
you've been watching the Nancy Guthrie story,
but apparently Savannah Guthrie, who is the host
of NBC News Today, The Today Show, which is a
show that I don't watch because, you know, I
don't watch the news. It's kind of depressing.
But her mother was apparently kidnapped and held
for ransom. And this has been a huge story. Like
I don't, you would have to kind of live underneath
a rock. To not have heard about it at least like
I haven't been following it like super closely
But I have noticed you know that They can't seem
to find any leads which a lot of people are really
confused by because you know We're always intrigued
when someone vanishes into thin air that you're
always intrigued by that because no one vanishes
into thin air especially someone who has a ring
doorbell camera and you know The idea that this
woman disappeared has intrigued the nation. Like
the nation has been watching this show and Savannah
and her family have been offering different rewards
for anything that might lead to where her mother
could be. And there's actually been talk of a
ransom. Did you hear about that? Like they initially
asked for $6 million and then I think they asked
for $4 million. Like, do you believe that? Do
you think that she's really being held for ransom?
What do you think is going on? Well, here's the
thing. I've seen many true crimes, many, many.
And like, basically you go from six to four,
then you're going to go from two. But the thing
is a person will not give in until they have
photo proof. Usually it's the newspaper article
with the person, but with a eye nowadays. that
can all change. Basically, you can add the person,
you can add the newspaper for today's date. And
that's what's scary. Like, basically, if people
are requesting for ransom money, like, it's going
to be an AI photo, unfortunately, it might may
or may not be right. But I'm assuming it's going
to be an AI photo. What do you think has happened
to her in general? Like, no one has seen her
talk to her. there's a lot of different um stories
of what people think are I should say theories
like some people say I heard the theory that
they kidnapped her and they were going to hold
her for ransom but oh I failed to mention this
woman is 84 Gina um Nancy Guthrie is 84 years
old she's much older in age and one of the theories
is they kidnapped her and during the shock and
and terrifying situation of the kidnapping, she
passed away of a heart attack. That's one of
the alleged stories going around. But didn't
she go missing in Arizona, I want to say? I could
be wrong. I believe it was Arizona. Yeah. OK,
so like how like like you said, how does a person
just vanish, like just vanish, right? I know
here, for instance, and probably where you are
too, there's cameras. There's city cameras recording.
And you can see the cameras. There are hidden
cameras everywhere in the city. And you can't
tell me you can't retrace this woman's steps.
Well, not only that but I've seen it where because
you know every basically every house on my block
has a ring camera and as Cars drive by the ring
cameras click on because they're motion activated
Exactly, even if a car went down your street
There would be some visual of a car and you would
just go from camera to camera until you figure
out if you can see a license plate if you can
get exactly I that's what I don't understand
like how How do you make like not only the ring
cam city cameras have they're everywhere in the
city like especially in a large city like in
Phoenix or whatnot. If you're in the middle of
like boomtown, probably not. because there's
only like no stoplights, probably not. But if
you're in a major city, there's going to be cameras
everywhere. So I think the police are actually
dropping the ball on this, to be quite honest,
because it has been quite some time where I've
been seeing like the TMZ articles about it. I
think they're dropping the ball on this. I think
so, too. And I mean, I think that, you know,
there's always 50 sides to every story. I think
that there's way more to what we've heard than
to what's going on. And but the idea that this
is the today show host mother, I think it's the
story has kind of catapulted. It's how you say
catapulted. And so like this phenomenon, like
there's people who are just so so wrapped in
and enthralled in this story. You know, people
are just following and a lot of people. have
made like TikToks and memes and they were like,
oh my gosh, I'm just gonna go find this woman
myself because the police seem to not be doing
a good job of locating her. Like a lot of people
are like, I'm just gonna go find her myself.
Cause at this point there's no reason why they
shouldn't have one single lead, right? Cause
a lot of people are like, this is crazy. This
woman has clearly been kidnapped. You should
be able to trace at least to what kind of car
they took her in. You know, like there's no reason
why. you know, she should be missing for this
long with no idea of where she is, if she's alive,
where they took her or what's going on. And the
fact that there were people contacting them for
ransom, like, Gina, I was under the impression
that if you contact somebody with like a cell
phone or whatever, they can at least determine
the call, right? Not necessarily to exactly where
you are, but like a general vicinity. Where you
are could be like a burner phone to right? Well,
we'll throw it away and they'll call again, right?
Well, you know where you originally called from
like even if you call and then you move to another
location They should at least know like a vicinity
of where the call was made even if it was a burner
So like I said lots of questions no answers and
I definitely feel like at this point Someone
is dropping the ball Gina, right? Like someone
is definitely not doing their due diligence here
and you know what they say if it's a minority
they work a little less well this is a white
lady so what's going on like why haven't they
located her because you know the the meme is
you know when you call 911 it's like is it a
good neighborhood or a bad neighborhood because
that determines how fast the police are going
to show up so like i'm trying to figure it's
probably a good neighborhood because think about
it right like like who her daughter is, right?
Like she's not gonna live in a bad, like the
mom doesn't, like the daughter is not gonna wanna
have her mom in a bad neighborhood. Well, yeah,
I guarantee you it was an amazing neighborhood.
I'm just, it's just confusing. Cause it seems
like this situation, they should be able to locate
her. And, you know, I'm starting to lean towards
some of the theories that I've heard where she,
and I think unfortunately Savannah said it in
the, last plea where she said that she would
offer up to a million dollars to know where her
mom is. She said, unfortunately, she could already
be gone. And that's what a lot of theories have
been. They're like, well, I heard actually I
was I heard a psychic say that her theory was
she passed away during the initial kidnapping
from a heart attack, because, you know, 84 year
old person, you can't just put a gun to their
head and tied them up. Like that is a lot for
someone of that age. I think that that theory
is kind of ringing true to me for some reason.
Yeah. Like, like, like I said, the police are
dropping the ball. I don't know. Like sometimes
people to stay relevant. Like, I don't know.
Maybe I hate to say this and obviously I don't
think it but some people will make up these like
obnoxious stories just to get publicity out of
it so maybe her time on the Today Show was like
near like she was expiring. like a bag like a
jug of milk and they're gonna give her the boot
and like I hope this didn't happen but I'm just
thinking like realistically how many times has
ever like has a lot of things been a publicity
stunt oh I mean that could be because she I hate
to go dark but you know as you know what the
police always say they have to go down every
avenue Right when you're trying to solve something
you have to leave no stone unturned So that could
be a theory and you have to visit every theory
you have to decide what? What necessarily rings
true and what doesn't and unfortunately Gina
that could be that could be true because her
mom has been very Involved and and her name has
been out there because let me just be a hundred
percent real with you. I had never heard of Savannah
Guthrie my life until this story happened because
I have a job and I don't work from home so and
I don't even know what time the Today Show comes
on it but I'm not watching it because I'm watching
other trash TV maybe that I shouldn't be watching
but you know well yeah I think you know every
Avenue is visited I think that we'll figure out
what happened and I'm praying that she's fine
and me too And I'm praying that it's not a publicity
stunt. There's a lot of people that go missing
and they're found within a few days, at least
here, but they have signs of like dementia, right?
Or they're older, right? But they're located
within three to four days because why? There's
police cam footage everywhere. And they'll give
like a description of what the person was wearing,
right? And people are village like religion of.
their surroundings like hey that person looks
familiar like you know what i mean like it there's
the trigger points in your head where because
if i was to see someone that was like a missing
person whether it be like old or whatnot i'm
like hey that person kind of looks familiar from
somewhere i've seen that picture before i'm going
to be looking online like has there been any
like missing person, especially if they're elderly,
right? At the same time, or they're distraught,
or they have the signs of dementia or whatnot,
right? So we live in like the city that I live
in is very multicultural with like a lot of Asian
and South Asian backgrounds such as like Indian,
Chinese, Koreans and whatnot. So like in those
cultures, we don't put our family members, like
even for me, we don't put our family members
in a home. It's like basically the last resort
basically where you're going to put your family
members in a home. Oh, well, a lot of people
here in the US put their family members in a
home immediately. So if you if you ask her co
host, for instance, if you ask Captain, if her
parents were still alive, she wouldn't put them
in our home. It's a cultural thing. You know,
like they your parents raised you and it's your
time to like give back to them at the same time.
That's kind of how it looks. It's like disrespectful
unless it's like serious signs of dementia. You're
not going to put them in the home because there's
only so much a person can take. Right. So unless
it's a serious sign of like dementia and you
can't just you can't do it anymore, then that's
it's basically a last resort. Absolutely. Oh,
so I want to revisit. We're going to revisit
the Brian Latrell. situation we talked about
this oh my gosh months ago where he lives in
oh my god Gina help me out here what on some
beach what beach is it well he doesn't live there
like we've established it was a vacation home
because like he lives in in Atlanta That's right.
You know what we did we went down this rabbit
hole. So he has a vacation home on the beach.
Oh my gosh, I can't remember where it's somewhere
in Florida. And I think it's what come county
or something like that. Oh, I don't know where
that is. But he he basically said that people
were walking on his property because he owns
a beachfront property. But you know, the beach
itself is public property, right? Like kind of
like a park. like where the water runs up to
the sand you know that area isn't necessarily
owned by anyone maybe the city i don't know but
he was saying that people walking in front of
his home and but between the water and his home
were trespassing on his property and he was actually
suing I want to say multiple people, Gina, right?
Wasn't it multiple people? It was like a woman.
It was like the county, like the police department.
Yeah, there was he was suing all of these people
saying that these people were trespassing on
his property and The beach itself belonged to
him and no one was allowed to walk that part
of the beach They had to I'm not exactly sure
what he wanted them to do because how would you
go around that? I don't know maybe swim around
his house I don't know what he wanted but the
the update is that a judge heard his case and
dismissed it against everyone, against this woman
that he said was trespassing on his property.
It's in Santa Rosa. I don't know where that is.
So basically the judge told him that you can't
tell people that they can't walk. in front of
the beach. You just don't. And I guess a lesson
learned for him when you buy a beachfront property,
you don't own the beach itself. You own the house
and then a small amount of land in front and
behind it, but not the actual beach. And I think
if you really want to buy a beach - He tried
to sue his neighbor. Wait, what did he sue his
neighbor for? So I'm reading an article here.
It says Luttrell 50 has been embroiled in a bitter
legal battle with his neighbor. I'm not going
to name her name, but she's not my age. She's
up there in age. He alleges she has invaded his
privacy by going outside his beachfront Santa
Rosa property. He was suing his neighbor for
going in front of his house that he doesn't even
live in. I have questions. I have so many questions,
you know, like, why is he so bothered by people
walking around? Gina, I would be very, like,
concerned if people were like breaking into his
property or maybe using his pool, you know, doing
anything to to violate his property, but walking
his property or being near his property. Is that
enough to file a lawsuit against your neighbor?
Like, that seems a little much for me. So it
says here in this article that I'm reading from
Realtor .com because obviously, you know, it's
a pretty reputable source with housing and stuff
like that. The boy band alum first filed a suit
against Hill. Well, I said her last name, but
yeah. In September, accusing his neighbor of
coming onto his property despite the fact that
he's put up quote unquote, put up several no
trespassing signs along with chairs, umbrellas
and small tables. as per the county circuit court
lawsuit, which was obtained by the New York Post.
InSuit Hill, who brands herself as semi -retired
on Medicare, is accused of shouting and cursing
at Latrell's family, property manager, and setting
up various chairs and other pieces of beach furniture.
This is like a Gina level of petty. Latrell has
been claiming that he suffered emotional harm
due to Hill's actions. However, Judge has now
denied his claim. Obviously. Yeah. This was on
February 17th. The judge dismissed the case,
noting that the singer can't claim emotional
damages in trespassing case. The judge also gave
the trial 20 days to refile with the right legal
factors. Oh, so he was trying to get emotional
distress? I guess. From trespassing? Like, I
have so many questions. Like, get the fuck out
of here. When does he even have time to... even
know what's going on in his house. He's always
touring. They're doing shows at the Spear. They
tour all over the world. Like, when does he even
have time to even know what's going on at one
of his properties? Because you know he has multiple
properties, Gina. Exactly. So... No. Yeah, make
it make sense. I don't know. I was actually sent
it to three of my friends in a... group chat
that we have regarding the Backstreet Boys at
the sphere of their new dates and I'm like absolutely
not like he like I will always have a soft spot
for him because he was like the love of my life
when I was like 16. or 15 but with his actions
and I said this in a prior podcast like I'm like
absolutely not like no and one of them's like
oh my husband likes Brian I'm like no like no
right unfortunately I had to jump ship and I
had to like another Backstreet Boy member instead
like I'm sorry Of all the Backstreet Boys, he
seems like a douchey one. Like, I don't know.
Like, the way that he is suing people and the
way that he - Like, the way he's portraying himself
doesn't align with what I value in a person type
of thing. So that's why I was just like, no!
It's also really weird because Brian Littrell,
um... He released a gospel album and he sings
contemporary gospel music and it's not very Christian
to sue your neighbor. Isn't something in the
Bible about how you're supposed to honor your
neighbor or love your neighbor? Love thy neighbor?
Love thy neighbor. Yeah, so this is really out
of character, so I don't know. I think that it's
great that it was dismissed though because unfortunately,
you know, he filed the wrong... He needs to come
down a few notches and come back to planet Earth
where everybody else is living. Well, not maybe
peacefully, but you know what I mean, like living
like money in their own business. I mean, yeah,
if someone is walking near your home that you're
not even at and they're not bothering your home,
then leave them alone. Yeah, if they're not like
doing damages to your home, they're not breaking
into your home They're not doing anything of
that sort of nature You need to back back the
fuck out like just back off right because you
know what there's Plenty because we're on the
like there's ocean right here plenty of properties
that are beachfront here The beach is public
the beach is public right like Like, there's
only so much from the property line that belongs
to you. The rest, it's like a fair game. It's,
yeah. Yeah, I was speaking of, we got to revisit
this. So, remember we talked about that David
situation? I think this happened back in August
where a body was found in a Tesla that was impounded.
So... His ex -girlfriend's, like, his ex -girlfriend
or whatever, partner at the time, whatever. who
was like super young or something like he was
an adult she was super young her body was found
decomposing in his tesla that was impounded and
okay so this will be quick so the grand jury
is now targeting him that is who the investigation
is surrounding which we already knew that but
one one of the new things is that they're subpoena
in his mom dad and brother um to testify and
they are they're they're from texas And they
are trying to say it violates their due process
by asking them to to testify. So they're trying
to fight going to testify in front of the grand
jury. And I don't know, Gina, like if if nobody
did anything wrong, there's nothing wrong with
testifying. Right. Like, I think that them saying
that they don't want to talk to the grand jury
makes it seem like they're hiding something.
Right. Exactly. Like I said it before. The reason
why this is taking so long because the police
wants to get it right. They don't want any hiccups
to like or bumps along the road to be proven
otherwise. And this guy walks away. Well, yeah,
if they charge him with the wrong thing and he's
acquitted, they cannot charge him again. So they
have to charge him correctly and they have to
have the evidence that supports the charges because,
you know, they could charge him for. They could
charge him manslaughter. They could charge him
with murder. They could charge him with homicide.
There's so many different things or ways that
they could charge this, but they have to charge
it right. Because if they, like I said, if they
get an acquittal instead of a guilty verdict,
then you only get one shot, right? Like you can
only charge him one time. And if you didn't get
it right, then he's going to walk free. So like
you said, they're trying to make sure that They
get the situation right and they get him on a
charge that will stick because I think that they
know that he did it. They are missing some of
the intricate pieces of how he did it and how
where, you know, how the body got events leading
up to it. They need solid evidence, solid proof.
Exactly. Because I think they came to the conclusion
that he's the one that did it. But they don't
have, like you said, each step by step event
of how this took place. And I think if they don't,
you know, if they're not careful, they're just
gonna have to take their time and figure it out
and question the right people and get to it.
And oh, one last, I have a topic that I really
wanna talk about before we end. So you texted
me last week and you were like, hey, you should
watch Reality Check Inside America's Next Top
Model. It's a Tyra Banks documentary. And remember
I texted you back and I was like, I didn't watch
America's Next Top Model, so I don't think I'll
understand that. And you were like, oh, trust
me, you'll understand it. So I watched the documentary.
There's a three part documentary. And I watched
it. And I did not watch any of America's Next
Top Model. But trust me, I understand what took
place. And I know that this show was like this
huge phenomenon back in the early 2000s. And
apparently, yes, it was. It was so funny because
I remember It would come on on Wednesdays. So
it would be funny story. So my friends and I,
we are all working within like in what we call
downtown Vancouver. So we're all working in downtown
Vancouver. We would make our way to downtown
Vancouver because they would have a ladies like
day or night type of thing like that. So we would
eat. appetizers was like happy hour and then
we'd have some wine there and then we would go
home to my friends one of our friends places
and watch America's Next Top Model. It was like
every Wednesday basically we would do this. So
did you watch all 24 cycles because apparently
I think I stopped watching it after the Jays
left and Nigel Barker left. Oh, so towards the
end, because I think that happened around cycle
1920, right? I believe so that was closer towards
the end of the series. Yeah, because I remember
you saying like, I don't want to watch that.
I don't like I didn't watch America's Next Top
Model. I'm like, you won't you won't like I haven't
watched it in years. And the only reason why
this is beginning to be a topic again, and a
documentary was created because people were rewatching
it. during COVID, during like, and they were
just appalled by the - That's the crazy thing
because so many people watched the show when
it aired and nobody thought anything of it. But
then, you know, they waited 10, 15 years and
watched it again. And then there was a lot of
outrage. Well, no, these were new people watching.
This was a new generation watching it, basically.
We watched, I don't want to say we, but our generation
watched it and nobody thought anything of it.
But then when the newer generation went and watched
it for the first time, they were like, oh my
God, this is horrible. I can't believe the things
that are happening. And watching it and hearing
a lot of the contestants talk about what they
experienced, I'm not gonna lie, Gina, it was
pretty bad. And I'm not trying to be like one
of those pansy generations, but the one girl
said that her... her mom passed away in gun violence
and a photo shoot of her as someone who was shot
and killed in gun violence. And when they asked
the producers and Tyra about it, you know, they're
like, oh, well. Creative is in control of those
type of things. I don't really have a say in
it. And looking back, that is extremely distasteful.
It's almost immoral to have someone go through
that. It's a trigger. Well, right and a lot of
the things that I was watching because you know
I didn't watch one single episode a lot of the
the Challenges and photo shoots and things that
they did were so outlandish and crazy. It almost
was like a mockery of The model industry because
none of this was realistic not nobody would ever
go and do these type of photo shoots and in the
every season and every season season every cycle
it would get weirder and weirder. And I think
that at the point of it where the show started
to become a circus is when people started to
get outraged because I think I'm not going to
lie to you. I think in the beginning, I think
Tyra had an idea for a show and she had good
intentions. Mm hmm. The show. Like after the
first season, it became this huge deal and it
got renewed for a second season. And then after
the third season, it was just a phenomenon. And
when a network knows that they have a money cash
cow phenomenon on their hands, they're like,
well, what can we do to outdo this? How can we
make the numbers better and better? And it's
always what can we do to get more money? And
I think Tyra started getting less and less control.
I think she was more so just the host and the
network was like, well, this is our baby now.
We're going to take it and we're going to make
as much money out of it as possible. And I do
blame her a little bit, though, because at the
end of the day, she went along with it. Right.
And everything was like, if you like, it was
funny because I remember you're like, oh, you
have to watch it. You're like, oh, I remember
these models. I'm like, dude, this was like 15.
16, 17 years ago, I don't remember half of the
models on there. But if you bring up their story
again, it's going to come like it's going to
come back in my flashbacks, right? Like, oh,
right. Oh, yes, this happened. And like what
I found so and I'm not even an African American
descent or anything like that. The fact of what
they would do, they would take them to the hairdresser.
And it wasn't even somebody educated to work
on particular pictures of women's hair. I'm going
to be as politically correct as I can be. So
I had to choose my words very wisely because
I'm not like that. And to give a woman of African
descent or African -American descent shave her
head, have bald spots, and couldn't take her
to a proper hairdresser who specializes in doing
women's hair of African descent was completely
disrespectful to women of color. Not only that,
Gina, but if you remember that same model, I
can't remember her name, but she said that they
were really nasty to her because they were like,
oh, well, your skin is ashy and we have to retouch
your photos and you just don't photo well and
you should take better care of your skin. Like
it was almost like they were treating her differently.
because her skin was darker. But in the end,
they said that they chose her to be on the show
as a contestant because she was different. And
then they turned it around and flipped it on
her and made it seem like she was a problem because
she was different, which I don't know. The whole
thing was just crazy to me. It's crazy in many,
many ways because there are so many people that
were involved in the show. And now that they
were speaking in the documentary, no, none of
them wanted to... justify what they did. They
all wanted to act as though, well, that's not
me. I wouldn't have done that. This they no one
took any accountability. I guess that's what
I put in the documentary Tyra took zero accountability.
Um, one what was the guy's name? Jay? Miss Jay?
He didn't take a lot of accountability. What
was the other guy's name? His last name was Manuel.
He didn't take a lot of accountability. J. J.
Manuel, J. Manuel, like none of the people really
were like, well, I didn't Here's the thing, I
think, because they're all Tyra's puppets, basically.
They could have stand up, yes, for what they
believed in, but at the same time, they were
basically reporting to her, basically. I'm not
taking sides, but I did respect the fact that
Jay Manuel said, um from South Africa and to
make Caucasian girls with blackface and vice
versa was like he was repulsed by it but he had
a job to do yeah at the end of the day he had
a job to do and that was his job what is right
what a scary situation to be in you know like
to Because, you know, in 2026, if we did this,
you would never work again. You know, like, we
don't do blackface. We don't do white, but we
don't do that. No. Like when one of the other
girls, I forgot her name. She said, I did not
feel comfortable with that person up on me. And
I asked to stop. right, with one of those dancers
wearing like a loincloth or whatnot. She was
standing up for what she believed in, but they
said, oh, all the other models were fine with
it. Yeah, but it just depends on a person's comfort
level. You don't know what like, like I was watching
some reels, like this girl could have been molested.
Or like, and that's the thing, you have to put
everyone's feelings into perspective of how they
feel and why they feel like that. And you can
take it off camera. And just like the fact that
they made that girl, like gave her, fed her,
the other girl fed her booze, like on an empty
stomach. These girls are not eating. These girls
are very malnourished. Right. And she slept and
she cheated on her boyfriend. And then afterwards,
Tyra is just like, put her under the train tracks.
And she was the conductor of the train and drove
over. Yeah. I was just shocked. Like, I didn't
know what to expect. Like I told you, I had never
watched the show a day in my life. I didn't know
what to expect. I knew it existed, you know?
You'd have to live under a rock to know that
that show didn't exist. But the fact that they
recorded that girl's rape and then tried to make
it out that she was a cheater and... What was
insanity, Gina? I was so appalled. I was like,
I could not believe this happened. This is a
part of pop culture that I missed, but holy shit.
This whole show, this whole crazy situation that
took place, it just really makes you wonder.
And you know what else? We talked about this
previously. Remember there was a show called
The Biggest Loser? They did a documentary on
that and they discussed how they were exploiting
overweight people. for that show, because when
you talk about a TV show, TV shows have to have
ratings and they have to have ad revenue and
they have to generate money. And I think a lot
of people are like, oh, well, this show is helping
overweight people or this show is helping models.
TV shows aren't really created to help people.
That's not what they're for. TV shows are created
to generate revenue. So if you're getting cast
on a TV show, regardless of what they're telling
you it's about, there's an agenda. The agenda
is to make money. And if they have to exploit
you to make their money, they're going to do
that. Right? Like exactly. That's the one thing
that we've learned. And no matter what their
messages or what they tell people or what the
trailer, the heartfelt trailer is about what
the show is about, it's not really about that.
At the end of the day, they need to make millions
of dollars because there's hundreds of people
working on the production of that. They need
to make a profit off of you. If you're not profitable,
you're not. you're disposable to them. That's
the fact that America's Next Top Model made it
for 24 seasons. The way they were treating people,
it just shows you the corporate greed. And the
fact that Tyra was just well, I don't want to
blame Tyra. She wasn't there for 24 seasons because
apparently, Gina, they fired her and hired Rita
Oren. I didn't know that. Cause you know, I didn't
watch shows. So they fired Tarvace from her own
show. That shows you how cutthroat the entertainment
industry can really be. Because imagine you go
to a network, you sell your show to the network.
It's your baby. You created it. It's every idea
that you've ever come up with. And then later
down the line, they tell you that you're no longer
a part of your own idea. That's how cutthroat
the industry can be. Yeah. And it's scary, but
like, Like I said, I stopped watching it because
I was bored out of my mind. And like, and the
thing is, like, not that I have a, like, basically
the outbursts, the uncalled actions from like
Janis Dickinson. prior banks with like, and everyone
knows the, we were rooting for you line. Um,
everyone knows that. And then Janice Dickinson
saying you're like, you're, you look like a boy.
You look like the, like that's degrading. Like,
how could you say that about anybody? Like it
was basically abuse. They were verbally and emotionally
abusing girls for wanting to chase after a dream.
It's like you. You promise like, oh, we're going
to make you America's next top model if we don't
destroy you from the inside first. You know,
like it's almost if you can take us tearing you
down, making you feel inadequate and making you
feel ugly, then you might be a model. Like that's
such a horrible thing that it's like dangling
something over someone's head. You know that
they want it. And then instead of giving them
what they want, you tear them down. Well, not
only that, a lot of them after they won, they
didn't get any modeling jobs. See, I figured
as much. I didn't watch the show, but I realized
after American Idol made a few celebrities. Because,
you know, American Idol still comes on today.
And you'll never know who won because you'll
never hear of that person ever again. And I was
like, I'm sure it would be impossible to create
25 next top models, right? Like, that's not how
it works. So I'm pretty sure after the first
person won, they might have gotten a couple of
things that they promised. And then they just
because it's impossible to make a celebrity.
They're not lab grown. You can't create what
you think the modeling industry would want. And
unfortunately, they learned the hard way that
they were building and selling a pipe dream to
these girls. You can't make someone a top model.
To become a top model, and Tyra herself should
have known this firsthand, it takes... talent,
it takes something special within yourself. Like
in order for you to be the best of the best,
that isn't necessarily something you can go and
teach other people how to do. Like Michael Jordan
couldn't really teach other people how to be
the best basketball player in the world. It's
just something you're born with. And I think
Tyra should have known that. Some people are
born to be supermodels and some people are not.
And telling people that it's in there for everyone
to figure out how to find is a lie. Well, I think
there was only three to four Models from this
whole entire series That were successful. There
is the one girl who was transgender Who had like
the market? I don't want to call it a disease
I I don't know what the medical term is for it
on her body. I forgot she's beautiful and there's
the other girl who they considered as plus size,
right? And they didn't have a size six, the smallest
size they had was a size two. And she was saying
that I only made it because I was like, I broke
the shell of being a plus size model. Because
at that time, there wasn't many plus size models.
But looking at her before when she was on America's
Next Top Model, she wasn't even plus size. She
was a normal, healthy weight. Yeah, I saw that.
I was like calling her overweight or plus size
is so crazy because I remember watching it and
I was watching it with someone and I turned to
the person I was watching it with and I was like,
where's the plus size person that they're talking
about? And I was like, cause I don't see any
overweight or larger people in this shot. So
I was like, where's the plus size girl that they
keep referring to? Cause the only girl I see
is skinny. So I was really, I was like, wow,
they're calling her plus size when she's literally
like a normal size human being. That's insane.
Exactly. So it just. baffles me and I'm glad
now like we always say the internet has its good
has its bad the social media has its good has
its bad but and we don't need any more influencers
but realistically they they said it they're like
oh like we don't need America's Next Top Model
now because it's not about what's on the TV I
can't even remember the last time I turned on
my TV right I'm on mostly Like streaming like
my stuff like streaming stuff online or on Netflix
or on Whatever discovery or whatever, right?
Those are the shows I'm watching I'm not watching
anything that's on TV a lot of these models We're
working towards print work and magazines and
Gina when was the last time you picked up a magazine?
Exactly. And the thing is at the end of and most
of these models most of these people it's like
now it's all influencers. They don't need to
break through those doors. If the internet likes
you, if social media likes you, you get a following,
you're in. Yeah, you're kind of your own agency.
Like you said, exactly. You build your own following,
then you don't need to be America's Next Top
Model or America's Next Top Influencer. You are
your. You are the influencer. If you can build
a following, you don't need approval. And that's
what these girls were seeking on this show. They
needed Tyra's approval and Jay's approval and
Miss Jay's approval. You don't need that anymore.
And I think that the world has shifted in a positive
way in that in that aspect because you can exactly
you can decide what your avenue is. You put yourself
out there and you build your own following and
you you build your own empire. Like look at Andrina.
from Love Island. She works for a modeling agency.
She was doing it before she went on Love Island,
right? So because there is print ads of her,
like for different clothings. She posted it the
other day. And obviously she didn't need an America's
Next Top Model. If she's good at what she does,
she's tall. Like she has an athletic build. She's
tall. She's Hispanic. She like, she had already
the following rate. She like, yeah, I love Island
might've put her boot boosted it more, but she
was already signed to a modeling agency. I think
it will let me not, but don't quote me on that.
Yeah. Yeah, I was very shocked by it. But you
know, it is what it is. And I think a lot of
times we see things that happened 20, 30 years
ago. And my favorite thing to say is, ooh, that
didn't age well. You know, I say that a lot.
And I think America's Next Top Model is going
to always fall into that category, that didn't
age well. Because, you know, we've become more
accepting as a generation as a nation of different
types of people, different types of weights,
looks, hair, everything. Like we're so much more
open to letting people be who they are. And I
think that show was teaching people that to be
a model, you have to look a certain way. You
have to weigh a certain way. You have to fit
into a mold. And I think that You know, in this
generation, we've broken that mold and we're
just letting people be who they want. And if
you want to be a model, you don't have to starve
yourself to do that. You can you can look how
you look and be who you want to be. And I think
that normally the world goes in the wrong direction.
But I think we have moved in the right direction
with that. We're letting people be who they are
and express themselves the way that they want
to and stop. Telling people to fit into a tiny
little mold of a box of what they should be I
think we have moved in the right direction for
that Me too. So I'm glad it took like like we
say like we're so thankful social like social
media didn't exist But then for the cases like
this, we're so happy that it exists right because
it broke the barriers it broke like Like it made
society look at things differently Yeah, and
we needed that. We needed that open look. When
we were letting magazines tell us what models
are supposed to look like, we were missing so
much beauty and authenticity because the people
who put those magazines out didn't understand
what beauty was. So now that we're allowing people
to express themselves, and social media does
that, there's women that... who's never been
signed to an agency, but they post their own
photos and they do their own photo shoots. And
now we get to see that level of beauty that magazines
and modeling agencies would have never allowed
us to see. So we are moving in the right direction,
sometimes, usually in the right direction. But
this particular instance, we are moving in the
right direction. Yeah, I'm so happy I convinced
you to watch it. I was just like just watch it.
Just watch it I was like why would I watch this?
This would be I would this wouldn't be such a
waste of time and then when I was like 40 minutes
into the first episode I was like, let me pause
it and get some popcorn because this is good.
Like this is good I thought like let me pause
this cuz I'm gonna pop some popcorn and get some
some Coke zero cuz we're getting deep into this
now like I'm in it Like I told you I was just
like what did I say? I'd like trust me. You don't
need to know the history I never watched that
model before but your stubborn ass was not listening
to me and then I'm just like why don't you just
like chill out like just watch it and Then you
can be on my level and then as soon as I saw
you reposting Tyra Banks memes from that episode
were in the jacket. People are saying she looks
like she's in like Carmen San Diego. I was just
like, oh, I think he watched it. I think he watched
it. As soon as I was done, I was reposting the
memes immediately because I was like, this is
crazy. So anytime someone texts me and it's something
that they're saying that I did something wrong,
I text back the picture of Tyra. the one that
I posted because I'm like when you are getting
called out but you refuse to take accountability
I post that photo now I know what photos to send
you a lot like mm -hmm like either Mariah Carey
or the tire bags because I'm not taking any accountability
so you know that's definitely what you send me
because if accountability comes knocking on my
door you're like I don't know what you're talking
about Right. Like, that was creative. That wasn't
me. I don't know anything about that. I'm just
taking the Tyra Banks way out every time. Exactly.
We'll just put your face on it instead of her
face. That wasn't me. This was fun, Gina. It's
been a minute. I know. It's been a long time.
I know. We gotta stop that. We gotta be more
consistent. I don't know why I'm saying we. It's
me. I'm the one that's not. Yeah, we were supposed
to actually do this a few days ago, but I think
something came up with you. Was it yesterday?
Yeah, you know me. I'm always in a crisis of
some sort. Exactly. So it's not me. I just prioritize
by gym life instead. I'd be like, OK, I can only
do a pod. Cause you had messaged me in the afternoon.
It was the afternoon here and like, Oh, do you
want to do a pot tonight? I'm like, sure. I'm
down. Right. But it will have to be after the
gym. Right. But I'll message you when I get home.
And then, um, yeah. And then something came up
on your end. So I'm like, okay. I had every intention
of doing it too. my whole you know me everything
happens in crisis mode and all of a sudden shit
started going crazy and I was just like oh great
I'm not gonna be able to do that and you know
so yeah you know me so I have a plane to catch
in the morning so you know I'm still putting
out fires but you know you know me yeah I know
I've been trying to put up fires for like three
days because I guess I can share it so I tried
to go see Backstreet Boys again in July and August
and our lovely co -host Coco is going to come
if I can score reasonable tickets. And every
ticket, every, okay, the waiting room, George,
you will never believe how many people are in
the waiting room for tickets to go on sale. I
had 25 ,000 at one point. 30 ,000 people in front
of me, 25 ,000 people in front of me. Today I
had, because they keep on releasing more dates.
Today I had 8 ,000 people in front of me and
I'm like, you gotta be out of your goddamn mind.
I am not spending 700 to a thousand US to go
see them. I'm sorry, I put my limit and I'm sticking
to that what my limit is and our co -host. Good
for you because that's ridiculous. I don't love
anyone enough to pay that much to see them like
for that They would have to take me out on a
date Like I don't know you'd have to take me
out for like filet mignon Like I just pay in
that you got to take me out to and then take
well after Here's the thing that I know with
pre -sales They'll only release an X amount of
tickets Right like a certain amount of tickets.
They'll release it per pre -sale The thing is,
tickets go on sale tomorrow for the general public.
So me and my friend are going to see what that's
going to be like tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll
see. We'll see. And you know what? Maybe I'm
just not meant to see them in Vegas this summer.
Maybe I'll have to do a Christmas or January
shows if they could perform in Vegas in December
or in January. I'm sure they will. They perform.
I'm sure they will too because I've heard they've
signed a three -year contract. So with with the
sphere. So we're only on year two. So yeah, my
heart broke. I'm like, oh, not again. I have
to go through this again tomorrow. I have to
go through this anxiety tomorrow. I'm sorry.
Well, I hope you get the tickets. I hope it's
not too stressful. But don't don't spend mortgage
prices on them. Don't you know, that's one thing
I'm not doing. Like I was talking to my girlfriends
on that we had a group chat going on. And I'm
like, I have to set a limit for myself because
there's so many things that I want to do. that
I might not like if I get World Cup tickets,
that's going to be another expense, right? And
then this and then I have to set a limit within
a reasonable boundaries and their limit was like
$400 more than what my limit was. So I'm like,
okay, like they're like, I think you should get
it yours from like, like secret or see, like
what stub hub or something like that. I'm like,
we'll be if I crack, we'll see. But everything
obviously happens for a reason. So, you know,
we have to Just play it by ear and see what happens,
basically. I'm living it in the grace of God.
And maybe it's not meant to be that I go see
them this summer, like in the summertime in Vegas.
And that's fine. I've already accepted my destiny
with that. So. Yeah. All right. Well, this was
fun, everyone. Thanks. This was. It's been a
hot minute. We need to see if we can keep steady
with it, George. Yeah, I got it. It's been a
lot. You guys know I have a lot going on and
I have a move coming up, but I'm gonna try to
be consistent. I am. I'm gonna do it. I promise.
I'm gonna make the time and hopefully soon I
won't be catching so many flights. I'll just
be where I need to be and then I'll have way
more time to do the things that I want to do.
You heard it here first people. You heard it
here first. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So thank you
to my bestie, Gina, for joining me for the pod.
Thank you for all the listeners who are listening.
We love you guys. Make sure you're listening
to me and Gina on 90 Day Fiance. 90 Day Fiance
Fridays as well. We're on that podcast as well.
And this was fun, guys. This was pop culture.
And we'll talk to you guys really soon. Good
night, guys. Bye. Bye.