What's up, everybody? I'm George Massey. This
is the George Massey show, and I'm here with
Gina. And I know we've been MIA. I just posted
on my story. Somebody swiped up on my story and
said that I hadn't recorded a podcast in almost
a month. Gina, can you... I brought it up to
you too. I'm like, we need to record something.
We do, right? And guys, it's me. It's not Gina.
It's not anybody else. It's me. I've been busy
and... I'm not gonna lie, I've just not been
like recording, like there's no actual excuse.
And actually we have to record another of the
medium session podcast this week and I haven't
even talked to Juliana. She's been messaging
me and I haven't gotten back to her. So that's
coming as well, don't worry. And we're gonna
be talking about, actually Gina, that missing
boy that we were talking about last week, the
Canadian one. We're going to be talking about
that on the next episode. And she has some information
that she wants to share. And we're going to be
reaching out to the family. They have the decision
of being involved or not being involved. But
we do want to give them that option. But anyway,
we're talking about season eight of 90 Day Fiancé
before the 90 days. And it's all new couples.
I want to get some reactions out of you, right?
Because we met Forrest and Sheena. And hold on,
I have a list. Rick and what's her name? Emma.
Emma. And there's another one. Laura. Laura.
Yeah, so do you have a favorite so far? Because
I've become obsessed with someone, so I wanted
to know where you stand on that. I don't have
a favorite right now. They all seem like... screws
are not all in place in their head right now,
but I do like the fact that it's not new journeys
and new people and just new. It's not recycled.
You can say that there's no Jasmine, there's
no Darcy, there's no Rob. You can say it. It's
okay. I like new people. I like fresh blood.
I like the idea of a new storyline, not a recycled
or reused storyline. Like, you know when you
go to the car lot and you're buying a new car
and there's a shiny, beautiful new car and it
catches your eye. And then they're like, oh,
well, we also have like a five -year -old model
that's cheaper. And you're like, it's not as
shiny. That's kind of how I feel, right? Like
I want a brand new, a new model, right? Like
fresh off the press. So that's kind of what we
got here. So. Um, I think it's starting. I do
have a favorite. I do have a favorite and she's
not even, she's like a supporting character.
So wait, you have a favorite. Who's your favorite?
Emma's sister, Izzy. Oh, her twin sister. Yeah.
They're twins, by the way. And it's funny because
in my opinion, they don't look alike, but they're
both very pretty girls though. Like I'll give
them that they're very pretty. And I do like
her sister and the guy who was on the show on
the scenes with them. Was that their brother
or their brother? Yeah, that's the whole family
thing. So I was I was kind of like enamored by
that. I was like, oh, they got the whole family
involved, which is kind of cute. They're like,
the sister is encouraging. And my favorite part,
actually, since you brought up Emma's sister
was when Emma sold her sister for a free checked
bag at the airport. I was like, you can't really
be prostituting your sister out for a free checked
bag. That is only like $38. Like that would make
her the cheapest hooker in Vegas. Like if you're
gonna pimp your sister out and give some random
dude her phone number, it should be like for
a full round trip ticket. Right, Gina? No, it
should be for first class. Well, yeah, a full
first class round trip. ticket because you know
don't be whoring me out for $38 you know like
come on I'm a little more than that but she had
a total of like three to four luggages I mean
yeah but that's to be expected when you're going
overseas remember Darcy Darcy takes like 14 luggage
bags with her when she goes I can't I can only
I could I can only justify taking one how one
bag isn't enough I can't even take one bag for
the weekend. Like, I needed two or three bags.
Like, when I was in ATL, I needed, like, three
bags. And I still didn't have enough stuff. I
had to go buy a shirt, like, because I still
didn't have enough stuff. I couldn't fit it all
in the bag. No, I just my luggage is pretty big
and light. So when I go to check it in, most
check -in agents think that it's going to be
overweight due to the size of the luggage, because
it's so big. And then they're like, oh, dang,
we're wrong. So yeah, I'll keep my luggage. This
time when I went, because I only went for five
days in Denmark, I got a smaller check luggage,
which was like 11 pounds, 12 pounds. It didn't
even meet the limit. That's not an option for
me. Smaller is not going to be an option. Like
if any bigger luggage. So and sometimes I'll
go on a trip and I'll have to come back with
a small luggage I didn't leave with because I
brought stuff back. So downsizing is not an option
for me. So but yeah, I want to talk about Forrest
because we started the show with Forrest and
he's the guy that has the cameras all over his
house. And he's also a virgin. and his mom took
him to a sex shop. So there was a, it was a very
complex beginning episode because it was like
a roller coaster. Like we were going up and down,
upside down. It was crazy, right? So we started
out with him cooking with her watching him. Like,
and they have the cameras that you can talk to
each other, which I have those in my house too.
Like it's cool. I have a cat. So when I'm not
home and I see him like trying to destroy something,
I'll be like, Hey, stop that. But I totally get
that. I get that. But that's a pet cam and it's
not all around. It's like he's living in a prison.
I don't know if that's accurate. I mean, yes.
Yes, prisons have cameras everywhere and they're
watching you. But they're using it as like how
to be together, I guess, without being together.
But he also said something really odd. He was
like, they use the cameras to be intimate. So
what does that mean? Like I don't do I want to
know maybe I don't want to but what is that?
You want to know we don't I get kicked off the
spot if we don't want to get kicked off Work
because you're not there and but I guess people's
virtual chat and they do Gina I'm gonna be a
hundred percent like real with you. I'm not like
into that Like I'm a real in real life guy like
if it's not like in real life. It's not really
happening for me It's like the people that can
like FaceTime and Stuff like I don't know like
that's not for me And I'm not saying that it
doesn't work for other people because I don't
know if it does or it doesn't some people say
that it does But it I don't know like looking
at your phone or looking at the screen that doesn't
necessarily It's not real for me. But at the
same time, Forrest and Sheena are both versions,
so they don't really know what they're missing
because they didn't. You can't know if something
is good or bad if you've never had it, right?
So they think that this is great because this
is the only thing that they've done. Oh, and
I forgot to mention Forrest has ADHD and he's,
I think, mildly autistic. So that explains some
of the behaviors. But the idea that the mom takes
him to the sex shop, I don't know how to explain
that behavior, because that's not something my
mom ever did, right? Like, and I don't think
moms should do that ever, right? Like - No! Adult
son to the sex shop and then recommend what he
should buy? Like, that's a little much for me.
There's lines that I don't want crossed. That's
definitely one of the lines I don't want crossed.
Exactly. I was like, Oh my God, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, please. No, stop. Make
it stop. Make it stop. I was just like, I wonder
if he has any, like, because of the fact he was
been doozled by someone in Indonesia. Now she
not in the Philippines. I'm wondering if the
only communication that he has outside of family
members is the outside world, or the outside
world, like the virtual world. Oh, so you like
maybe he doesn't have like friends that he hangs
out with regularly in person. Well, yeah. So
there was some questions that I had, you know,
me. So when I was watching the episode, we were
going through the complexity of his storyline.
And they're like, Oh, well, she had a bank account
and she was saving money. um to build their lives
together and then her parents empty the account
twice so i had a question though because i was
like they because forest's mom was pissed that
the mom and dad of shena took the money or i
was like but did he actually send any money to
put into the account or was it all her money
like because technically you know in those countries
your money is your parents money because you
are responsible for your parents like your parents
raise you and then when you get old enough you
take care of them that's care of them culture
so i was like if that was sheena's money they
were fully entitled to her money because that's
her culture she so them taking her money is not
because forest mom was like well i don't trust
her because i think she's a scammer because her
parents took the money and i was like well if
it was her money how does that make her a scammer
Because her parents are entitled to her money
like in Indonesia, especially and in those countries,
when your parents get older, you take care of
them for the rest of their lives. You know, in
America, if your parents get old, you'll send
them to a nursing home. They don't. Yeah, I think
it's a cultural thing. It depends on like the
culture of the person. And I know for us, like
for me personally, I would never consider putting
my parents in a home. Right. So well, like I
would unless unless it was like worst case situation
where I can't take care of them anymore and they
have like dementia then that's obviously something
a little bit different and more complex right
but for the time being like absolutely not if
well I don't know my mom lived independently
up until the day you know she left the world
but if my dad needed to go to a nursing home
I I don't care. Yeah, that's because you have
a different relationship with both parents, right?
So if he needed a kidney. He wouldn't get a kidney
from me. Like, I'm just going to be real with
you, Gina, like for real, like for real and everything.
Like if he was going to a nursing home and the
only other place he could go was my house, he
would go to a nursing home. But like you said,
the relation, my him and I's relationship was
never strong enough to get like anything out
of me anyway. You know, I said I was going to
get a tattoo and the tattoo was going to go on
my wrist and it was going to be of all the things
my dad did for me. And I got the tattoo. And
do you know what the tattoo is, Gina? It's your
skin color. It's blank. It's blank, exactly,
because he's never done anything for me. So yeah,
I totally, totally understand, you know, for
my mom, if she, well, she was independent till
the day, but if she ever was to go anywhere,
I would have took care of her till the end. Like,
and I would fight my brother and sister to keep
her. Like, that would have been me. Like, that's
how much I loved her, but yeah. I totally understand.
But if that was her money and the parents took
the money, I'm trying to figure out how they're
holding that against her. Because if they wanted
to start a life together, why wasn't Forrest
actually saving some like if she had a bank account
to save money, why wasn't he saving money, too?
Like it always helps when two people are trying
to build a life together than one person. Well,
it could also be like, I don't like I'm sure
more to the story will unfold as time goes. the
weeks go by type of thing like that so what we
know that people working in indonesia aren't
going to be able to make a whole bunch of money
to send she's not in indonesia she's in the philippines
oh that's right she's in the philippine indonesia
is the place where the first girl is that scam
town exactly yeah so she's in the philippines
but still the philippines doesn't have like a
super high salary career over there either. It's
really hard for you to get ahead. So when she
was working and saving money, I was like, well,
it would be a much easier if he was contributing
because in America, you know, I dollar goes up
much farther than the dollars in the Philippines.
So it would have been more helpful, but they
didn't really say he sent any money to her. because
they kept saying oh they used all the money and
the parents took all the money but they didn't
say if it was any of his or not which i thought
since the omission of that statement it makes
me believe it wasn't any of his money in the
first place well here's the thing where i think
i think he contributed to it because then i responded
to your tweet with well why would the mom care
right why would his mom care if his money wasn't
put into that account but she never said it was
Exactly. That's why I'm saying like, I don't
think like, that's what I think that some of
he contributed to that amount as well. Because
if it was just her money, then she knows putting
into the bank account, why would her mom, why
would his mom care at the end of the day? That's
like, that's their money, right? Or her money?
Maybe she thought it was their money, because
they were together, but it was really just her
money. I don't know. You know how moms are. There's
moms out there who think that their children
are just angels, even though their children are
not angels. So, like, she's probably going to
be like, oh, she screwed over my son, and her
son probably wasn't even helping, because that's
how moms are, you know? And moms tend to let
their sons get away with murder. You know, Gina.
Like, they can literally do nothing wrong, and
then it's always the woman's fault. That's how,
yeah, unfortunately, I know that and like having
siblings that are both brothers. Yeah, I know
that they can do no wrong. And well, you know,
here I am. So. All right. So I don't know the
fact that they never said it was his money. I
was like, that wasn't even his money anyway.
But I want to talk about Shekinah 2 .0. So we
got Emma this season and she's basically Shekinah,
but a little different. People are calling her
like the team Kardashian. Nah, that's too nice
and generous. She's like Shekinah, but with a
bad wig. Like, she's definitely nowhere near
a Kardashian level. Like, that's ridiculously
generous. But she's got this weird, strange,
like, hair store wig that she's wearing on the
season. And she's actually dating a 27 -year
-old. And she's 27, which never happens on this
show. So she's dating someone that's her own
age. But her thing is she's into Moroccan men.
Which you know, we've we've actually met a lot
of people on the show that were into Moroccan
men I'm pretty sure that Nicole and as in I'm
pretty sure as in was Moroccan wasn't he was
from Morocco from not mistaken a lot of women
have that fetish but her thing is a little different
because she dated a Moroccan and it didn't work
out his name was Mohammed and Then there's an
overlap. So Gina the overlap means that you were
dating both people at the same Yeah, it'd be
hilarious if she got pregnant and Maury was still
on and then it'd be like, oh, my baby daddy.
And you have to bring both of them on. Well,
luckily, she did not. But she was dating both
of them at the same time. And then she thought,
so here's the thing. She said that Mohammed was
talking to other women. So she went on his social
media and messaged all of the women that he followed.
And she said that he was like in a relationship
with like 20 other women. How is this possible?
Like, for real, I'm just going to be really,
really realistic here. I can barely remember
to keep up with everyday basic tasks. How would
you remember to keep up with 20 different women
on a daily basis? Because women, you have to
call, you have to text, you have to show that
you care, you have to be present. So how do you
even have the time to do all that? Scammers 101.
You take a scammer 101 course. But Geeta, how
would you even remember what to say to each woman?
Because it's personalized. You can't just send
the same text 20 times. You have to have a notebook.
with all the information of what you've discussed.
Doesn't that seem like a lot of work? Doesn't
it seem like a lot of work? Because you have
to study these people. You have to study what
they're doing and what they like, what they don't
like, and things. Because if you're texting with
someone that you know really well, you know what
they would say. Because if someone texts like,
here's the thing, Gina, I'm a weirdo. So if one
of my friends is texting me and I read it, I
know if it's them or not, because I know like,
for instance, say one of my friends is texting
me, but it's not them. It's somebody else texting
for them because they're busy. I can tell that
they're not texting me because I know people
so well. I can hear them talking through the
text. So like if you were texting me, Gina, but
you were like occupied, so you had like your
cousin texting me, I would be able to tell. Like
I would know that it's not you. Oh, I know. the
way someone speaks or the way the message is
transparent, going back and forth or whatnot.
Yeah, definitely. I can definitely tell, right?
Because it depends on the language of the person
as well, right? When my friend's driving, I've
had to message her cousin or whatever, her niece,
and she knew right away it wasn't just how I
was writing out the text. She knew right away
that's not the way her aunt spoke to her type
of thing. Well, right. So that's what I'm saying.
Like this guy, Mohammed, had to be really good
to keep up 20 different relationships at once
because people can tell when you're not, you
know, genuine. And when you build a rapport with
someone, they kind of know how you talk, how
you respond, what you would and wouldn't say.
So, I mean, if I tried to date 20 women at once,
they would figure me out immediately. Right?
Like immediately, I would fail because I just
would not have the recollection to remember what
each person is interested in and wants to talk
about and what the conversation would be. And
they would immediately know that I was wasting
their time and I would immediately be dumped.
So it does take a lot of skill to do that. And
I'm impressed that he was able to do that because
I don't have it in me. But oh, so Emma's with
this second guy. Um, help me out. Zied, Zied.
No, Zied is with Emma. Yeah, Emma's with - His
name is, uh, Bothan? Rothan? Uh, something like
that, hold on. It's gonna bother me now. Wait,
so Emma's boyfriend's name is what? I'm trying
to figure that out right now. Zied, right? I'm
pretty sure it's Zied. It's like, remember how
she had a Zied? I think it's Zied. And he's,
he's a Muslim guy. And it's a typical storyline,
right? Because I remember him saying, um, when
she asked if there was going to be any issues
when she got there with, um, public affection
and he said, no, and his name is Birkin. No Birkin
is the guy with Laura, Laura, the guy with Z
ed. Yes, that's correct. Sorry. I was just getting
them confused. Yeah. We're going to talk about
beer camp. later. I call him Beer Can. Actually,
I stole that from Captain. Captain was tweeting
about it and she called him Beer Can and it stuck.
So I was like, I like that. I'm stealing that.
So yeah, Emma and Zied. are meeting for the first
time on this episode. And he immediately started
with the, you need to respect my authority as
a Muslim. He started like almost immediately,
you know, like you have to respect my religion
and you have to, and it's funny because they
all use the same tactic. They tell the American
girl, oh, there's no big deal. You can do whatever
you want. You can dress up what you can kiss
me in public. And then when they get on their
territory, their turf. Here's the thing she's
been to before. She should have already known
what most of the expectations are. What the hell
was she wearing when she like left the plane?
Like it looked like my mom had curtains like
that in the 70s. Oh, you mean the red thing that
she was wearing? Yeah. And like people were looking
at her, like staring at her. Well, yeah, I don't
know why she wore that. Also, I forgot to mention
she brought a dress with her. that her ex Mohammed's
mother made. And she was like, wouldn't, wouldn't
they be like, that looks like, where'd you get
that from that? Like, like, that print looks
like you got it from here or somewhere. And then
like, Middle East, like Morocco, Jordan, or whatnot,
like, where did you get that from? Well, she's
gonna have to eventually tell Zed that she's
been there before and dated a man there before
I mean probably not It's not gonna be a good
pleasant conversation to have you know when you
find out that you're part of a sex tourist scheme
You know, it's like you feel good because you
think that one likes you because they like you
but they actually like you because you're Moroccan
it's not gonna make you feel like 100 % confident
You know what would be the cherry on the top
which I would be like, oh my god And I replied
to your tweet on that if they were related or
cousins somehow Her ex and the same guy I would
I would die. I'd be like I'm done. I'm dead Like
I've gone I think Morocco is a small country,
right? No, I don't think it's a small country,
but I would I'd be like, this is the type of
shit that I signed up for. This is the type of
stuff that I want to see. I want to see freaking
messy. And that's it. I would like to see that.
Like, so when she like his mom and his family,
the ex would be there. that would be really messy
and be like oh so now you're marrying my cousin
after you know I would watch it it's the type
of um remember back in the day there was a show
called it's not sally jesse rafael it was the
other one ricky lake lake that's a ricky lake
show story right you remember ricky lake i don't
want to age myself but if you know who ricky
lake is that's the type of stuff she would have
on her show somebody dates somebody's cousin
that was a ricky lake storyline and i would definitely
love to see the look on everybody's face when
she shows up to the family reunion and she's
been through half the family like i would definitely
love this but but we like i i highly doubt it
but it would make for great tv if it was true
yeah and you know we don't know yet We don't
know if it's true or not. Oh, so this Michael
and Laura storyline, so it's a throuple. OK,
so let's answer this throuple. So there's a chick
named Laura. She's a teacher. I want to say an
English teacher, but I could be wrong. Yeah,
an English grade five teacher. OK, yeah, she's
a grade five English teacher and she has a kind
of a boyfriend named Michael, like except they
don't sleep together, but they do everything
else together, literally like eat together, watch
movies together, go places together. It's like
a relationship, but it's not. And it got a little
complicated because I thought it was one of those
friends without the benefit. All right. But you
know how women will have the perfect man right
in front of them and they will not want that
man because they want someone who's going to
treat them horrifically. So I thought it was
one of those situations. But in actuality, it's
not actually Laura wanted to have a relationship
with Michael, but Michael was the one that. Acted
like he didn't want to be with her then it turns
out it's because he's insecure because he was
born with a birth defect You know what? I I responded
to your tweet I didn't even notice the birth
defect until like way later in the whole like
Yeah, I didn't even notice it right away Well
way to make me feel like a bad human being I
noticed it almost straight away so yeah I'm a
horrible person well at first I was just like
oh maybe it's the angle or anything but then
I'm like oh shit he does have something like
but it didn't it didn't cross my mind just because
I was more paying attention more to the storyline
versus what they look like type of thing like
that in this case so well I noticed it right
away so I'm a bad person so I did notice it and
he said that he didn't he felt like going to
that place with his best friend would lead to
rejection and he said it was her it was sad to
hear he was like I'm so you it was it was it
kind of broke my heart like oh this is this is
like sad I'm like That you like, and maybe that's
the thing they have such a strong bond with each
other as friendship. If anything was to happen,
like they broke up, like they wouldn't have that
friendship. They possibly wouldn't have that
friendship anymore. And is it worth losing like
the friendship? Yeah. And I actually, I can see
where the dilemma was because they do everything
together. They, they go to the gym together.
They play sports together. They play tennis together.
They watch movies together. They cook together.
They eat together. And. Just risking the one
aspect of adding the intimacy to already a perfect
relationship, the risk didn't outweigh the reward.
So I understood why. But Laura saw that as a
rejection in her direction. So she was like,
well, if he doesn't want to move forward with
me, I'm going to go look for somebody. And then
that's where she met Beer Can. And he's kind
of the opposite of Michael, so it kind of makes
me feel like it wouldn't have worked out with
her and Michael anyway because he's everything
that Michael's not, right? Because she said that
he has a bad boy exterior. And I think a lot
of women fall into that. that trap of somebody
who goes against the grain, who's not going to
open the door for you, who's going to ride a
motorcycle, who if you text them, he's not going
to text you back. You know, like they fall for
that type of guy. And I feel like it's a trap.
Like it's a persona. If anything, like if anything,
you should get somebody who can act like that.
when you want them to but then act like a decent
human being also because I think women fall into
that trap of oh it's nice if a guy's you know
has that persona but it's probably not fun 24
hours a day seven days a week you you don't want
to be treated like shit all the time just every
now and then because I'm into that I like to
be treated like shit every now and then but not
every single day exactly so like and like a lot
of women will like the like the bad boy type
of man, unfortunately. Yeah, it's, it's, um,
it's a trap. Oh, so he's 26 years old. How was
Laura, by the way? I don't remember. She was
older. Um, was she like, how old? Hold on. Let
me find out here. But funny, funny story. Well,
I look up her age real quick. She legit looks
like a younger version of my high school English
teacher. And I posted it on our group chat with
90 Day Fiancé Fridays. So when we're discussing
this episode on the 90 Day Fiancé Friday podcast,
I will be posting a picture on Patreon of what
my high school teacher looked like. Wait, I'm
scrolling up. I'm scrolling up to the group chat.
Oh my god, really? She does look like your high
school teacher. That's weird. Yeah, just a little
younger. But yeah, so all English teachers look
like this. Is this? I don't know. I don't know.
Like, wait a second. She's it. That's how I remembered
she was an English teacher. but different grades
and that's how I remembered because I'm like
holy I was trying to figure out I'm like where
does this chick look so familiar right like she's
not from she's from Washington state she's from
Vancouver Washington not where I'm from but um
But it's pretty close. But I was just like, hold
on a second. What we what? Where does she work
so familiar from? And then it came to me. She
looks like my high school English teacher, one
of my high school English teachers. I'm trying
to think back what my high school English teacher
looked like. And now that I'm thinking about
it, I went to two different high schools. So
for ninth and tenth grade, I went to one in Louisiana
and then for 10th. or 11th and 12th went to a
school in Ohio. I'm pretty sure my English teacher
in Ohio was a man. But I believe my English teacher
in Louisiana in high school was a woman. And
if I'm not mistaken, she was a lesbian. She had
like the bowl cut. and she wore pants. But you
know what, Gina, I gotta be honest with you,
I don't know if she was like legit a lesbian
because I went to a Christian school, you weren't
exactly allowed to ask or say anything like that.
She just dressed like one. So like at the end
of the day, I don't know if that's true or not,
because I'm pretty sure if she ever said she
was, they would have fired her because they didn't
allow that. We um, you know what I went to you
went to a christian school. I went to a religious
private school as well We had one as well. We
had it like yeah, but obviously can't say anything
But we knew we all knew it's an unspoken thing.
We knew what was going on But you know at the
end of the day we couldn't talk about it because
you know exactly exactly so laura's 47 And beer
can is 26 and he works in a cafe That's what
I caught on the thing. So she he works in a cafe
and He's a bad boy. So, you know, it sounds like
the makings of a divorce, right? I mean, that's
what a divorce usually sounds like a 26 year
old that's marrying a 47 year old and he works
as a barista That's normally what a divorce sounds
like during the proceedings, but we'll see how
it goes We'll see if they actually click or not
because I know that The the twist in this particular
storyline is Laura is bringing Michael with her
What is with people bringing other people with
like traveling with them? You remember who was
it somebody else did this on a season and it's
slipping my mind They brought their ex with them
to meet their new person. Oh my god, who was
it? Help me Gina. We were watching the season
and The girl wait, I think it was the girl from
Orlando wasn't it um She was with the guy. I
Don't remember her name, but she was with her
land. She was in Orlando. It wasn't um It was
gonna say if it was Tim, but I don't think it
was Tim No, it wasn't the girl that was with
Bozo because she was from Orlando. It was the
other girl She Oh, man, I can't remember. This
is so embarrassing because it wasn't even that
long ago. But she went to his her. They are.
They are. Wait, say it again. What was her name?
They are. That was her. They are. She brought
her ex boyfriend with her to meet the guy and
he blew up. Right. Honey. Yeah, honey. And now
we have Laura who is bringing in Michael, who's
not necessarily her ex -boyfriend or anything,
but he's a best friend, which, you know, Muslim
men don't particularly like their women, you
know, associating and hanging around other men.
They feel like, remember Adnan, he said that
even. Yes, I was about to say, Adnan, whether
Tiger Puffs, like, hair crew, makeup or whatever
was gay, it didn't matter to him. He still didn't
want, yeah. You have the right equipment. so
you can't be around her. So I'm imagining that
this situation is going to blow up because I
don't know what it is with Muslim men, but they
just they don't want other men around their women.
So I'm assuming even though this guy's not a
threat because Laura basically friend zoned him
because he said he wasn't interested. He's going
to make a big deal about it. And it's like of
all the people in the world that you can bring,
bring a girl. Like if you know that you're going
to meet a Muslim man, don't bring another man
with you. You're just going to agitate him. Like
don't agitate people. You know the saying, don't
poke the bear in Florida. It's don't, don't poke
the alligator alligator. Florida would be. Right,
if the alligator is just laying on the ground
and it's not eating you, what would provoke you
to poke it? Right, like why would you, you know
that it's gonna cause a problem so you bring
something there to agitate the person. So I feel
like this is gonna be a huge blow up because
in the history of this show, anytime that a Muslim
man encounters another man who's too close to
his wife or fiance or girlfriend, he gets really
agitated. So I'm assuming that's gonna be the
same situation. All right, so there was another
guy this season and his name was What was his
name Rick Rick? Yeah, and let me just say something
Gina You know how I gave Dylan a really hard
time for looking old or I was the old I said
old er So Rick is 52 years old, but he doesn't
look 52 years old. Dude looks really young. So
I was going to give him a little props for that,
because everyone said that I'm an old shamer.
But I'm just going to say this guy's 52. He looks
42. And you're ageist. Yeah. So I'm ageist. Yeah,
they're saying. But I'm not. I just call it like
I see it. If you look older, I'm going to say
that. But also, you look younger. I'm going to
say that. So I don't discriminate. It just tends
to be people tend to look older. it's not my
fault right it's not my fault it's just how the
cookie breaks in half but this guy rick has two
baby kids like they're little right like small
and then he has three small children and two
adult children or three adult you watch this
the season closely when the girl that he was
with which her name was trish she said that she
wanted to have a couple kids he said to trish
i already have five kids So I know that the story
broke last night or the night before one of the
show Sites, I think sarcasm maybe posted that
Rick did lose a child when it was two years old
So I don't know if he would to his job cuz you
know Just because that child passed away doesn't
mean you don't have a child that child is still
in your heart So I don't know if he was referring
to that child or if he actually has five living
children but we don't we don't know because he
said two um adult children and two young children
so he could be counting the one that unfortunately
passed away but but at his age like at 52 years
old and you already have two little kids having
more kids wouldn't you be raising kids until
you were like 85 like i feel like at some point
you know you're too old to have kids right right
My parents had me when they were 39 and back
then that was like unheard of. Oh, that's crazy.
Why did they want to start over? Like in my mind,
if you have adult children, the idea of having
another child now is like backsliding, you know,
because you've already accomplished. May I remind
you, I was an accident. So I was not meant to
happen. You were unplanned. You were an unplanned.
Well, yeah, because my siblings and I were like
10, like 10 and 13 years apart. Well, Zeena,
I don't know if you knew this about you and I.
I was in I was an unplanned pregnancy. I don't
like to say accident. I don't know, it's kind
of heartfelt. It's kind of hurtful. But I was
most definitely an unplanned pregnancy. My mom
was 30 years old and she had two kids already,
a boy and a girl, which is all she wanted. And
then I came along, I think five or six years
later, but I became the most, you know, I was
the favorite, but. I was not planned. And shortly
after I was born, their marriage had already
deteriorated. So I was not supposed to be there.
So but you know, you never know, you know, if
that child is going to be the gift to the family
or not, because, you know, I was definitely the
gift to the family. And Gina, you were the gift
to the family. So that's what we have. The family
didn't know about that. Well, I was definitely
the gift to the family. When I was born, the
family was complete. Like they could they could
start You know, the the what do you call it?
The paperwork like once I was there, things were
ready to go. Yeah, not not in my case. Well,
I don't know. Rick said that he doesn't really
want to have more kids. Oh, so I forgot to mention
Trish lives in Madagascar, which Gina helped
me. This is in Africa, right? Like I just want
to. So I believe that it was. But, you know,
you know how I am with geography. was never my
strong point. I'm really good at like geography,
like the US, like I knew all the states and the
capitals and then South America, but like other
parts of the globe, I never really knew where
the places were. Like Gina, I think you told
me that, wait, you told me something that I didn't
know. Like if I flew to Australia, didn't you
say it was quicker if I flew from one side of
the world or the country or another? I think
you told me something that I told you, because
for you, it would take like two days to get there
to Australia, or a day and a half to get there.
No, two days was like 27 hours. And then from
where I live, it takes like 13 hours. Yeah, see,
I didn't know that for some reason, I thought
Australia was closer to me. how much I don't
know geography because I was just but you remember
I used to I didn't realize that Canada stretched
all the way over by Washington like I'm just
not I'm not a geography person it's funny because
I've traveled we're above the United States yeah
but I didn't know you were like fully above it
like because when I lived in Cleveland I could
see the Canadian border across the lake downtown
Cleveland so and then in Detroit I would drive
through the little tunnel and I'll be in Canada.
I didn't realize that Canada was like the same
size as the U .S. I thought it was a small country
because there's so few people there. I just assumed
it wasn't that big. I didn't realize it was a
massive freaking country. Oh, you're hilarious.
No. You've seen the map, right? You've seen the
map since then, right? I was born extremely cute.
So I didn't have to be extremely smart. Okay,
I'm just gonna put it out there. Like I got by
through the skin of my teeth and looks half the
time. I was not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Okay, like I'm not. I am. I wasn't either. I
was not the sharpest tool in the shed. I am now
more clever than like, than before. I was not
a very studious person. I was just like, Oh,
forget that noise. But now I'm like super diligent.
Like I'm like, when the heck did this change?
I'm like, but okay, here we are. It's changing.
Um, but I was not a studious person. You know,
like Like the only time I made the honor roll
is when I actually graduated from high school.
And I'm like, what can I do? I would be hustling
my teachers. So far my grade is a B. What can
I do to make my grade an A? What extra credit
can I do? I was on the honor roll all of school.
Well, my mom, she was like a crazy person. So
like she told me that I had to make A's because
anything below A made me an average person. And
she said that I wasn't, she didn't birth average
people. So I wasn't allowed to like, oh my gosh,
I remember one time I got a C and she beat me
until I bled. Like it wasn't really like an option
for me to be average. Like I had to be, there
was like an A. If I didn't get an A +, my mom
was like, oh, so you just got an A, so you probably
didn't study that hard. That was my household.
It wasn't like, oh my gosh, you got an A. It
was, well, if you would have studied harder,
you would have got an A+. But that's kind of
how my life was. So when I graduated, I was a
valedictorian. Is that what you call it? A valedictorian?
Valedictorian. I had the little gold thing on
my... my robe because, you know, if I didn't,
my mom would have said that I didn't work hard
enough. And I, I, I strive to impress her, which
was not easy, Gina. It was not easy at all. My
mom had a man. Your mom, your mom was also an
educator as well. Like mine weren't they like
the most education they had back in Portugal
was a fourth or fifth grade education. Oh, wow.
Well, yeah, I was very, I was pushed very far.
And like like so obviously they didn't know social
studies. They didn't know like how to like teach
me stuff if they didn't know it themselves. Right.
Type of thing like that. So if that makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah, it does. Oh, so Rick said that Trish
goes with him for five days. So I want to ask
you something. She said that. Somebody wrecked
a motorcycle and then her ex said he robbed she
robbed his house. Like what do you think of the
excuses that she gave for not picking up the
phone for five days? So the first thing that
I thought of was she is talking to multiple men.
And maybe during those five days, another man
came to Madagascar to see her. That's just and
it was impossible for her to keep the communication
open when that person was with her Right. So
I'm assuming he was there for five days and then
when he left she was able to reopen the communication
That's just my theory right because what is the
odds that? They just stopped talking and then
all of a sudden five days later. She's ready
to talk again. It had to be something devious
Yeah, I would need to see a police report. I
would need to say see receipts I mean, that was
a weird thing to say. Like she said her ex -boyfriend
said that she robbed their house. Why would you,
if that's not true, why would you say that? Cause
it makes it seem like you're robbing people.
You know, like that's not necessarily a good
excuse, but I guess there's never a good excuse
for ghosting someone. I mean, regardless of what
you say, you know, I think I was watching a TV
show back in the day and then a girl on the show
was like the only good excuse for a guy ghosting
you is that he's dead. I think that's what -
that and you know any other excuse other than
being deceased is just not a good excuse because
you could have if you weren't deceased you could
have texted back and i i kind of feel like she's
right you know like if you're still alive and
your fingers work and your phone works you could
have texted back yeah so unless like like i find
that complete utter bullshit basically i mean
ghosting people is it's people's go -to when
they don't know how to deal with emotion and
they don't know how to break up. And I think
a lot of the newer people on the planet, what
do you call those? Millennials? I think they
don't, they're afraid, wait, do you call it that?
Are they millennials or younger ones? No, I don't
think so. I think we're millennials. I think
they're like Gen Z. Oh, the Gen Zs. The Gen Zs
are really scared of confrontation. So breaking
up and having difficult conversations, they're
the ones that created ghosting because they just
want to avoid the difficult conversations. And
confrontation is just something that they're
not equipped for. You know, our generation, we
confronted people. You know, if I could tell
you how many times I got mad on the playground
at school and yelled and went back and forth
with people. Like confrontation is not something
that we're new to. It's these younger people
that are scared to have confrontation with people.
Exactly. So yeah. All right. So was that everybody?
I don't know. I got to go through my. I think
so, but I sent a group chat to us and I'm like.
apparently an old castmate is supposed to make
a reappearance on this new season. What do you
mean? Elise. Oh, we knew that. I understand that.
But she hasn't been like I was reading somewhere
that she wasn't on any of the like the oh, the
upcoming. Right. She wasn't featured in any of
that. And she also wasn't like Featured on the
what's it called? She also wasn't like up until
January. There's no on IMDB. There's nothing
saying that she's on there Well, I have a theory
I Think that someone on the show is gonna break
up almost right away And I don't want to say
who I think it is, but I think you know who I
think it is. I think they're going to get to
the country and things are going to go south
really, really fast. And they're going to break
up kind of like how you remember Miss Debbie
and Mohammed. She got to I think was Morocco,
actually, and things. turn extremely fast. And
within like a few days, she had packed her shit
and left. I think it's going to be one of those
situations. And I think Elise and her guy and
I don't like again, I don't know how far their
storyline is going to go. But I think they're
going to be filler for what you know, that gap
that's left in the show. I think that a couple
that they thought was going to be popular ended
up ending things early. And then she's going
to be on the show. with whoever she was with
some guy from Australia, I think. And that'll
be a filler. And if you notice, because I think
Shibuti said, in the group chat, if you notice
the picture of Elise and that guy, it doesn't
look like they were standing next to each other.
It looks photoshop. No, it's photoshop. Yeah,
so it's one of make me one of I have questions
about that. Does she actually go to Australia?
Because if she was there and physically there,
they would have taken those those pictures. When
the first thing that you do when you when you
start filming is you take those introduction
pictures, you know, where you stand next to each
other and you like put your yeah, you do that.
So it's going to make me it's making me ask questions
like, well, did he catfish her? Did he lie to
her? Did he stand her up? Did she get there?
And he Didn't come to the airport like it gave
me a lot of questions about that. And again,
I don't know any of that storyline I don't know
if Elise is gonna have a big part on this season
But like you said, she's gonna miss at least
the first six episodes. She's not gonna X Like
it's not until like January So what are you saying
eight episodes? She's not gonna be on Up until
almost January 18th. Well now that would only
be six But still that seems like a long time
and like TLC time and my time a season is like
20 episodes So if she's all but so so even if
she's in like eight episodes She would still
be like halfway in right like I don't but again.
I don't know how far her storyline is gonna go
but if you notice there their promo photos didn't
show her. I think in the beginning they did,
and then when they started showing previews and
promo photos right before the show aired, she
wasn't in them anymore. And remember, this happened
one time before a couple of years ago where Shida
and Balal, they put them in the promo photos
for Happily Ever After, a season of Happily Ever
After, and then when the season aired, they never
were in the season. That that has happened once
before. So I'm not saying that's what's going
to happen, but it could be that we're watching
this season and she never shows up because that's
kind of what they did with Balala and Shida.
They announced them and it was around the time
that she miscarried and she was having some real
personal issues and they all being. That's kind
of different, right? Like you're going through
personal, like personal issues, right? So and
that was. of like a really smart choice on their
end because yeah like no one wants to film while
you're in pain at the same time and yeah no no
no like or no one wants to see you like oh i'm
pregnant and then like you know you're filming
while you're pregnant and then all of a sudden
you're flashbacking to this or rewatching it
it's traumatizing yeah i understand that oh so
one other thing before we end this or stop talking
about before the 90 days at least. There's a
woman on the show, and I believe her name is
Lisa, and she's dating a famous singer from Belize.
Am I getting this right? What's it? I saw it
in the preview for, you know, coming in this
season. um her maybe her no no lisa is dating
this guy named daniel from nigeria she was like
the lesbian that was uh after like after 21 years
turned straight oh okay that actually sounds
interesting too though actually you're thinking
of aviva aviva and stig or stig or something
like that and you know a lot of times they use
that famous word very exaggerative on the show
because you remember when they're like, oh, Usman,
he's a super famous Nigerian singer that that
come on now, we got to use the word accurately.
So when she said her boyfriend was a famous singer
from Belize, I was like, how famous are we talking
like Drake famous, like, underground famous that
you only hear it at a nightclub if you request
it, like, what are we talking here? Because I
noticed on this show, people use the famous word
very loosely. Because a lot of people explain
it as, oh, this is a famous person. I was like,
how famous? If I turn on the Grammys, am I going
to see them in the audience famous or just famous
to you? I need to know what we're talking about.
So I'm interested in that because it's like a
remix version of two different stories, Baby
Girl Lisa in Usman and Kim in Usman. It's bringing
back the rapper story, which we haven't really
had in a while. We haven't really had that in
a while. Yeah, we haven't so I guess we'll see
but it's the same like Unfortunately with TLC.
It's the same Storylines must like girl from
America Muslim boy Girl from like rapper like
what like I need better Storylines in order to
get like not to say that this cast is not a good
cast or so far but Yeah, you get like you can't
just like have and milk off of the same storyline
You've got to be more creative people. Come on.
I Mean, yeah, it would be nice if we got all
new Storylines, but you know, we we can't have
it all So I don't know if you watch the other
way or not. The other way came on yesterday day
before yesterday now I don't know what day it
is anymore and I watched it. It's Tuesday. And
yes, I did watch it it's wednesday here so weird
like wait hold on a sec no it's it's tuesday
here because it's not midnight yeah it's still
tuesday where you are it's wednesday where i
am is it weird that we're talking at different
dates times time and dates yeah i know right
But I watched this episode and it wasn't really
anything new. It was still Patia Complaining
that Dylan's mom isn't dead, you know It's like
it's just the same thing over and over and it's
like I was wondering that because I was like
is she Jealous of his mom because I don't I don't
really understand what bothers her that she calls
him because and her mom said something interesting
She's like, well, you can't just be mad at me
because he calls me too And I've, I don't know,
I've never thought about like somebody's relationship
with their mom being a problem for me. Like if
I'm in a relationship and the woman that I'm
with is close with her mom, I would never have
anything negative to say about that. Like I'm
not gonna like say, well, you shouldn't spend
time with your mom, you should spend time with
me. I think that that's the most childish. It's
like fighting over attention, you know, and when
you get to a certain age, you know, you just
accept the fact that everything isn't about you,
right? Toddlers, they have a hard time understanding
that everything isn't about them because they
haven't grown up yet. You know, they think that
the whole world revolves around them. But as
a 58 -year -old woman, I think Patia has to understand
that. this man's first of all this man's mom
is still alive a blessing and they're close and
have a good relationship and him having a good
relationship means that a man that has a good
relationship with his mom is going to treat you
well because a man who knows exactly learn how
to treat a woman from your mother right and and
i know a lot of people are like oh well the dad
is supposed to teach you that too but i think
The first woman that a man learns how to talk
to and understand and treat is their mom. And
I think that sets the stage for the type of man
they're gonna become. And I think if he has a
good relationship with his mom, that should be
something that she would be happy about, right?
Like she should appreciate the fact that he learned
how to treat a woman from his mom because not
every man learned that. Some men don't treat
their mothers well and you can see it based on
how they treat their spouses. Exactly. So I think
basically she thinks, I think, that just didn't
make any sense, that his mom is influencing his
life choices. She is the barrier and the decision
maker of what he does with his money and whether
or not it should be spent on her. by paying off
her 20 ,000 debt, which doesn't make any sense.
So basically she doesn't want his mom there to
tell him to make good choices. Exactly. Because
him not paying off her bills is what I would
call making good choices. Because I'm sorry,
why would he need to pay off her debt? They're
not married. Like I get it. If you're married,
your debt becomes each other's debt. But they're
not married. And at the end of the day, she keeps
saying, Oh, well, you're the reason that I accumulated
this debt. You can never blame another person
for anything that you did. Like if you like she
wants to make it seem like he was an accomplice
in this. And she's like, well, it happened because
of you. And it's like, at the end of the day,
you're responsible for you. If you ran, I would
like to have the receipts to that. Well, she's
never given a real explanation as to how he forced
her to spend this money. She just says, well,
it didn't work out. So I had to live on my own.
But you're a grown woman. Living on your own
is not Dylan's responsibility. If you didn't
work out, you can't blame the fact that you had
to live on your own on him. Because relationships
don't work out, marriages don't work out. It's
still your relationship to take care of yourself
after the fact. I think that she's under the
impression that she's supposed to be taken care
of and she's never responsible for herself. Kind
of like Natalie from 90 Day Fiance who was with
Big Mike. Like she's never been her own responsibility.
She's always a man's responsibility. Some man
is supposed to take care of her and maybe Patia
has that same mindset where she's like, well,
I shouldn't have to pay my bills. That should
be some man's responsibility. And I think that's
probably where she's saying that she's like,
well, you left. So I had to pay these bills.
So it's your fault. And it's not, you know, you're
responsible for yourself. Exactly. So I guess,
yeah, it's it's just here we thought, oh, new
people, this is not going to be that bad. Right.
Like the only like newcomers or old comers. or
jenny and summit and jenny and summit are hardly
even on it and now like we have these new people
and it's just like okay these people are boring
just as boring too like i don't understand well
the storylines are very one -dimensional and
predictable and i wish for better storylines
and watching um them unfold it's almost like
it's exactly what i expected like chloe and And
Johnny, they're looking to get married now because
the partnership agreement would force her to
leave and wait for, I think, three months for
it to go through. And she said something really
funny on the episode. She said her relationship
with Johnny would not last three months long
distance. And weren't you the one that said that
that's a red flag? Somebody said on Twitter to
me, they were like, that should be a huge red
flag. If your relationship can't survive 90 days
long distance, then what makes you think it's
going to last a lifetime? And I thought that
that was a really good point. If because she
basically is saying if she can't be with him
and he can't be with her physically in the same
place, they're both going to cheat each other
and their relationship will deteriorate. And
I think that is a huge red flag. Like if you
can't commit to someone for three months being
away, because, you know, there are people who
go away to college that are still together and
they'll be at different colleges or people that
move away and accept a job somewhere and they
have to be separate. They're still committed
to each other. Like the fact that it's impossible
for her to be committed to someone unless They're
close enough for her to spy on is crazy to me
like and I think that's the whole thing She doesn't
trust him and she knows that if she's not there
hiding in the bushes Steering through the bushes
to see what he's doing He's brought he's gonna
cheat on her and that's a massive red flag Like
why would you even want to be with someone that
you have to watch? To make sure that they're
not cheating on you Well, I always said to write
like and he was actually being very mature and
very adult on the conversation that they had
together Yeah, if you remember right he's just
like I don't like kind of like I don't think
we're ready to get married Well that was yeah
he was not only that but he was telling her that
she's not ready to give him he's right She's
not ready. I don't think that they're both not
ready to get married. To be honest with you,
I don't think either of them are marriage material.
I think that Johnny is too used to his lifestyle
as being on his own and doing whatever he wants.
And I think Chloe likes the idea of having a
boyfriend or a husband, but I think the implications
of that would destroy her. I don't think that
she's ready to not be a brad. Because when you're
married, it's not just about you. And marrying
somebody that doesn't have a lot of money, you
can't be the brat that you are. You're going
to have to change it. I don't think she's capable
of giving up her brat lifestyle. I also don't
think that... I think he said it. He's just like,
I don't think you're mature enough to handle
a relationship, like a marriage. She's not. She
can barely maintain their relationship as boyfriend
and girlfriend. She's hiding in bushes and spying
on him. And, you know, I think that at the end
of the day, she likes the idea of a relationship
or a marriage, but I don't think that she's marriage
material. And I don't want to say that like ever.
I just think at the point and stage in her maturity
level in her life, she's not ready to get married.
I think that marriage is something that you grow
into and you... It becomes a role that you're
ready to take and she's just not there yet Exactly.
So what I like and she won't be there for a while
They're at different stages because you have
to remember he's he's got a few years on her
I'm not saying it's a huge age difference, right?
But he's got he's Like he's lived on his own.
He like his unfortunately his mom passed away
the right but he's basically Lived on his own
like knows how to like have not live in the lap
of luxury basically Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna
last I'll speak and I'm not lasting so three
days after getting to the UK Greta decided that
she was no longer in love with Matt this bitch
this bitch I I I told I what I said to tweet
his Shibuti like on reply to one of his posts.
I'm like, I don't I don't know who I hate more
her or Jake now. I really don't. Well, she's
only been there three days, Gina. And remember,
yet one of the days she was crying in the kitchen.
Like, it's weird, though, because he said it's
only been three days. And I was like, is that
possible? Because I remember them going to look
at a house. I remember them like meeting his
parents. I remember her cooking. that vegan meal
that she was crying. I was like, how did all
of that happen in three days? Because it seems
like she had been there longer than that. But
he said when she said she wasn't in love with
him anymore, he was like, Jesus Christ, it's
only been three days. Can you really have made
that decision that quickly? And it really put
it in perspective to me. I was like, well, she
came here. to break up with him. And then she
finally admitted she said that she kind of checked
out of the relationship months before she got
there. Like she stopped telling him things. She
stopped looking forward to their conversations.
She was distant. And I was like, so what would
possess you to sell all of your shit and get
rid of your cat and move across the world for
a person that you didn't even like anymore? Like
what would possess you to do that? I don't know.
I don't like her. I really don't. Like I said,
I don't know who I hate more. It's very hard.
I don't know who I hate more. I felt bad for
Matthew because he was kind of blindsided because
he thought that she moved there because she wanted
to make things work and she also catfished him
and said that she wanted kids when she really
didn't. So he was kind of blindsided. This whole
three days was kind of like probably every day
of what the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck.
Like it was definitely something that he wasn't
expecting. And I kind of feel bad for him. So
he thought he was getting somebody that was coming
over there that wanted, you know, the same thing
that he did. And he actually got somebody over
there that wanted nothing to do with him at all,
which I think is even more crazy. Then like,
what was the point of her even appearing on our
screens? Like, go away. And she's still in London
or in England. This this bitch has got I can't.
I can't with her. Like she portrays herself to
be one thing and she really isn't. I mean she's
a lady that gave up her cat which is honestly
like right now when I'm recording this with you
I have a cat laying on me right now sleeping.
So the idea that somebody gave up a cat so they
could leave the country to be with someone that
they don't even like it just annoys me. just
annoys me like why would you do that and she's
supposed to be an animal activist but she's just
like kicking animals to the curb like they ain't
shit like that's crazy to me right that's that's
why i i can't there's many reasons why i can't
stand stand her um like she bailed out on her
cat like hasn't talked about the cat like since
the showing she's still in london or in england
lord knows God knows doing what like, like, how
can you do this? Like how, like this man at first,
like, yeah, he was kind of like an oddball, like,
wait, what? But now it's just like, he grew on
me. God dang. He did grow on me. Yeah. Oh, I
think, hold on. Let's look at my notes. Somebody
else was on tonight. Oh, wait, maybe they weren't.
But the previews. for next week. Um, so Madeline
or Madeline, I don't know how you say it. She
might be pregnant. Did you catch that in the
previews for the next week show? Yes, I did.
Throwing up and she was sick and she thinks that
she might be pregnant, which I think wouldn't
be great, you know, because I feel like their
their relationship is very chaotic. And you know,
bringing a child into the relationship where
you're constantly throwing things at him. I don't
know how healthy that would be you know if it's
not flour she's hitting him with it's cake if
it's not cake I think she threw something else
at him too right I can't remember what it is
now but she's always throwing things at him so
I was just like I don't know you know what would
possess them to be having unprotected sex knowing
that they're in such a bad place you know and
then You know, when people do that and then they're
surprised they get pregnant, that even pisses
me off even more because I was like, so there
was a whole health class at your school that
you didn't pay attention to because people are
just like, oh, we weren't trying. I was like,
well, not using contraception is trying. And
I don't know how to better explain it to people.
You know, I watch a lot of the teen mom shows
and the unexpected and, you know, the unplanned
pregnancy shows and they always use the same
excuse. They're like, we weren't trying to get
pregnant, but we also weren't. using anything
to prevent it. And I was like, that statement
doesn't make sense. Like, if you're not using
anything to prevent it, then you're trying, right?
Like, I don't know how to explain it to people
any better. Yeah, I don't know if she's pregnant
or if it was just for TV, we have to remember
this is TLC we're talking about here. I may be
she's got food poisoning. I don't think she's
pregnant. Like, I'm just going to be real. My
theory is probably closer to what you are thinking.
She drank too much or she has food poisoning
and she was thrown up. I just don't think that.
And I know that they're still together. And,
you know, Jasmine really was trying to hide her
pregnancy and she failed at it. So I think if
she was pregnant, we would know because, you
know, if it comes to the 90 day world and it's
something that needs to be found out, we would
have figured it out by now. So I don't think
that she is. I think, like you said, she probably
was sick or drank too much or, you know, whatever,
nauseated. But I don't think that she's with
child. And I don't I'm not one to say who should
and should not have children. But I think that
that Luke and Madeline have a lot of things to
work on before having a kid like maybe get married
first, but not even that. Like, I don't even
think that they should get married. I think that
they're incompatible in every possible way. But
having a kid is way, way off of their like agenda,
in my opinion, like they should learn how to
have a conversation without throwing something
at him first. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Can you imagine
if she was pregnant, like what she would do to
that baby? I would assume she would throw it
at Luke if it. Yeah, I'm joking, guys. I'm joking.
I'm not saying that she would do that. I'm joking.
But yeah, yeah, I don't think that she has the
patience. I think that she's a little too self
childish. Yeah, childish and self centered to
have a baby like she's more about herself than
anyone else kind of like Jasmine like the baby
is more like a accessory than a person Because
you know for some people they're just the center
of attention It's only them and they can only
see them and I think Madeline falls into that
category where she's incapable of seeing anyone
else's feelings or needs before her own it's
always been her so I think if If she was to have
a kid, it would be harder for her to decipher
between, well, what's important, me or the kid?
I think that she would always pick her because
that's just where she is in her maturity level.
She's the only person in her universe. Exactly.
They're self -absorbed. Yeah, she's very self
-absorbed. And I guess Jenny can't count cash
change. So next week, because they won on this
week, Jenny and submit are going to be back and
Jenny is going to. be giving out. I guess they
don't make money anymore because she's been giving
people too much change because she doesn't know.
Oh, I don't know. This has only happened to me
like a handful of times in life that I went to
the store and I gave someone some money and they
gave me too much money. So this is my question
for you, Gina. If this first of all, has this
happened to you before? Did someone ever give
you too much money back? Yes, it has. Oh, I'm
going to ask you. I'm going to say, OK, so OK,
so it's happened to me. And I guess a judge of
character question. Um, I didn't give it back.
So I was just going to ask you, did you also
keep it or did you give it back? Cause I know
you're Canadian and y 'all are like super nice.
So I didn't, I saw that it was too much and I
took it and I left. What did you do? The thing
is I gave it back because I've worked retail
before. And my till has been short because of
like other people using the till too. But at
the end of the day, I'm responsible for that
till. You know what I mean? So let's say if I'm
on till, right? Like and whatnot. And I am processing
transactions. And let's say I can't jump on that
same till, but someone else does. Whoever's on
it, whoever was on it, the longest is responsible
for that till. And that it's just a horrible
feeling when your kill short. All right. So I
guess I'm a bad person because I also I've also
found money outside of the bar and it was I pocketed
50 bucks. I'm like, oh, we're going to have a
great time tonight. Let's go. That situation
I've done. So I was actually in Tower City in
Cleveland. This is years and years ago. And I
was standing outside Tower City, like not outside,
like outside one of the stores. And I had my
daughter with me and she was a baby. Not like
a baby, like she could walk, but like small and
like a toddler. Yeah, like a toddler. And I had
her with me and she was walking and I was holding
her hand and we were walking and she was like,
Daddy, money. And I'm like, what are you talking
about? I look on the ground and there's like
a 50 and two fifties and a hundred dollar bill
on the ground. And so I tell her pick it up and
she picks it up She hands it to me and I pick
her up and we run out of them all We and I mean
when I say run run because I didn't want anyone
to like notice that we took it so I Guess I'm
a bad person Gina. I'm just gonna put it out
there. I did that I found money at the mall and
then one time like I remember one time I was
going I went to the mall and I had to do something
or get something and I found like 20 bucks on
the floor but then after like because I was going
to attend mass after going to the mall I'm like
oh my god I'm a freaking horrible person like
because I'm like customer service would just
pocket the money Right, obviously if I was to
hand it in and I was just like, okay, I'm gonna
pocket this and then I started I'm like, oh my
god, I'm going to hell I'm gonna go to hell.
I'm gonna go to hell. I'm like, okay. No, we're
not doing this So what I did what I did was I
Ended up donating the same amount that I found
to the food bank Aren't you just a little saint?
Well, I am not if I wasn't going to church right
after that the mall trip I would have pocketed
it and not done anything but I was like it started
to like eat away at me like oh my god, I'm going
I'm going to the house of God and I just like
stole money off the money from the ground because
the ground isn't a person I'm a finders, keepers,
losers, weepers guy. So, you know, so if it's
on the ground, it doesn't belong to anyone. I
can't steal from the ground. The ground is that
person. So and also in a Wal -Mart parking lot,
I found two twenty dollar bills. Which I went
into the ballpark and spent on myself. My my
dad, after I told them after I met my parents
at church, I told them what happened. My dad's
like, are you stupid and crazy? Right? What's
wrong with you? Like, like I didn't raise no
fool, but clearly you're the fool. Well, what
did you mean? Thanks. Well, because I had like
donated the money because I was just like, Oh
yeah, I don't like, I just couldn't like live
with myself. I donated the money. Yeah, I agree
with you. Like that was and I could live with
myself like I have no like you know how people
ask you like how do you sleep at night I would
sleep like a baby after taking that money like
I could totally live with myself it would not
bother I wouldn't even lose like 15 minutes like
you know how some people have guilt I wouldn't
even have any the first thing I would think is
what I was gonna buy myself like I would not
have had that issue that was just an issue that
you had like I would have that was just an issue
that I had because I was attending mass right
after I wouldn't have cared I went to church
seven days a week for most of my life and if
I found $100 on the ground that is my money like
I don't care like I am not holier than nobody
or whatever it was was mine, and I will fight
you for it. Like, I have no conscious when it
comes to ground money, because the ground is
not a person, you can't steal from the ground.
But my mom's just like, Oh, you did a good thing.
It's okay. But my dad's like, you're dumb. Yeah,
I'm team dad with this. Because there was nothing
wrong with keeping it. That's what he said. Well,
you have to look at it like, you know, when something
good happens and people are like, oh, look at
God helping me out. That's good. You should have
said God was handing you the money. That's what
you should have said. It would have made you
feel better. Like, that's how I look at it. I
was like, oh, I was just saying how I was struggling.
And then, oh, look, I just God just handed me
some cash. You know, that's how I would look
at it. But I don't need any justification. You
know, I'm going to. You know, I was like, I'm
gonna take it anyway. I'm just saying if I needed
any, that would have been it. If you needed any
signs like, oh, it's a blessing in disguise.
Here I go. Yeah, but I didn't need any. What
do you call it? I didn't need anyone to coach
me into to sleeping better about it because I
wasn't gonna feel bad Like I'm not gonna feel
bad. I mean, I guess I'm a bad person, but I'm
fine with it You know, like I'm not I never said
I was perfect and I think there's no such thing
as a perfect person anyway So it would be stupid
for me to even say that like but yeah, I have
no I don't say I have no conscience I do have
a conscience but not for ground money Not for
that But besides that, those two times, like
that time, I'm just like, yeah, no, but poor,
poor Jenny, but seriously, I understand if they
can't afford a cash register, but at the end
of the day, like you have a phone, use the calculator.
Like I'm confused. How can they not afford a
cash register? Like, but you can afford all that
equipment to use. I don't know. I'm just saying,
I'm just justifying. Okay. Like I'm not saying
they can't afford it. doesn't make sense and
a cash register i don't know if you've been to
like i don't remember who used to sell them back
in the day sam's club or cosco but you could
buy as your cash register for 249 you ever seen
them there because i used to yeah cosco business
center they have everything there i used to tell
my mom like mom i want a cash register and she
would be like for what and i i didn't have an
answer i just wanted one but they sold them there
at cosco and i was just like can we get one they
have cash register and she would just always
hit me with the What exactly would you do with
it? Because you don't need that. And I couldn't
justify it. I just knew I wanted it. Well, she's
not wrong. Well, no, she was usually right. I
just I just wanted it. You know how when you're
younger, you want things that make no sense?
Like I've wanted a lot of things. I answer was
what the hell would you do with that? But that
was just because I was young and stupid. But
yeah cash registers aren't that expensive and
they tell you exactly what to give people but
like you said your phone does too So like even
if you didn't have a cash register, you could
use your calculator app on your phone to make
change But I don't know. I used to work retail
my first job ever in the whole wide world I worked
at this place called Mark's it was the grocery
store in Ohio and I was a cash register Guy,
what do you call those a cashier? And the funny
part is, it was when this happened, cash register
jobs were for girls. So I got interviewed for
the job, right? I remember I was in the 10th
grade and I got interviewed for the job. Nope,
I lied. I was in the 11th grade and After the
interview, the lady was like, you got the job.
She was like, you'll be pushing carts or whatever.
And I was like, nah, I ain't pushing carts. I'm
too cute for that. So I didn't want the job.
So I turned the job down and then I got back
home to my house. And the lady called the house.
When I walked in the house, actually, she was
on a phone with my aunt and she was trying to
get a hold of me. And she was like, tell him
that I have a cashier job for him. But she's
like, I didn't offer. that to him because no
boy has ever been a cashier here before or whatever
and I was like yeah I'll do that and I was really
good at it because I remember every time the
lady who counted the registers at the end of
the night would come out she would be like your
cash register balances to zero every every time
you work and I was like is that good and she
was like no one is ever perfect with their money,
but she was like, your cash register balances
to zero every night. And then I don't even think
I was a cashier that long. I think after a few
months, they put me at customer service. And
then after that, I was some sort of manager,
but I was really good at making change though.
Cause everybody, like all the managers were like,
they put me in charge of like, I don't remember
what the job was, but I was in charge of the
cashiers where you give them change and you make
change for the cashiers. I had that job. So when
Jenny said that she was not having a hard time
counting money I was like see I never had that
issue when it come to money. That's the only
language I speak I had the only language I speak
like if this money you ain't never gonna get
over on me cuz I speak that that's like a foreign
language that I am fluent in Yeah, but like what
like what can she do she can't she can't cook
She can't clean. She can't do anything. Like,
like make it make sense. Like what, what is wrong
with you in her defense? She should be retired.
She shouldn't be doing anything. That's like
her defense. Like at her age, she shouldn't be
doing anything at all. Like, so I don't get mad
at her for not being good at things because she's
not supposed to be doing anything. She's old
and she should be living out her best life. And,
you know, being retired and laying in bed and
drinking coffee or whatever old people drink.
I don't know. Like she shouldn't whatever she's
doing now. It's too much for her age. You know,
she shouldn't be trying to work in a cafe seven
days a week. She's she's retired. And, you know,
I know that people are like, oh, she should be
better at things. It's like, well, maybe she
was better at things like 30 years ago. And now
she's just passed her prime. You know, like she's
you know how they say you can't teach somebody
who's been doing What do they say somebody wasn't
going to teach a dog new tricks? Well, yeah,
I didn't want to call her a dog though, but like.
No, no, I'm not saying like metaphorically, like
it's just the phrase that they say. You're a
person that's worked at a job for 40 years and
then the company does a restructuring. You're
probably going to have to lay off that person
who's been there for 40 years because there's
no way they're going to be able to learn a new
way of doing that job because they've been there
for 40 years. They've been doing it the same
way the whole time. You're just going to have
to force them in their retirement. You're not
going to be able to restructure the company with
them because they'll never do it. They're stuck
in their ways. And I feel like That's how I feel
about Jenny. She's made it so far in life, doing
things a certain way, and she retired. Trying
to teach her new skills at this point is a waste
of time. Agreed. Totally agreed. Sorry Jenny,
but but at the same time it's a family business
Right like you didn't want to meet working because
he's like at the other place because it was too
much for him And not he wasn't spending enough
time for you. You're just gonna age him to the
same age bracket as you Well, somebody has to
work. That's what I'd be telling people. I was
like, y 'all can't just be looking in each other's
face all day. Somebody got to go to work. Well,
that's what you wanted him to do. Well, she wants,
but that's the thing though. She's kind of like,
who's that person that was like, I want you to
get a job. And then when the person got a job,
they complained that they were never there. I
can't remember which cast member that was now,
but - It was Jenny. Jenny? Okay, yeah. So that's
what a lot of people think. They think, oh, I
want you to get a job so we can do better. And
then when the person gets the job, they realize
that it takes up all their time. They realize
they don't actually want the person to have a
job because they don't want to compromise the
time. And it's like you can't have the best of
both worlds. You can't just sit around the house
and look at each other all day. Somebody has
to make money. Like that's just how the world
works. Life works that way. Somebody has to work.
So I think a lot of women are confused because
they're like, oh, you work too much. I never
see you. You should make time for me. But at
the end of the day, somebody got to go to work.
Right like exactly. Yeah, just sit around and
look at each other and because money doesn't
grow on trees and it doesn't fall out of the
sky So somebody is gonna have to go and donate
their time to a job and make money right like
that's just part of life Like I don't I don't
know Well, the cafe is non -existent anymore.
So I'm assuming they're off to their next business
venture because You know we talked about on the
other podcast that cafe is already another business.
It's already rebranded as something else Yeah,
I tried to find it I'm like Maps Google Maps,
and I couldn't find it It's probably a good thing
now because I didn't really want to eat anywhere
where they slash cow urine everywhere like it
I also did say that it was probably just a pop
-up I mean, true TLC fashion. It could have been
like, um, made beauty. Yeah. It was a pop -up
and you know, or if we want to go back real far,
remember Nicole and Azan's clothing store. It
didn't, it was such a pop -up. It didn't even.
Or, or like the makeshift, like what beauty pageant
at the holiday inn or the Darcy and Stacy fashion
show in the hallway of a hotel. Oh yeah, I do
remember that, yeah. You're right, TLC is big
for making up fake events for their cast members.
You actually, you're onto something there. Instead
of sponsoring them and putting them in real pageants
and real fashion shows, they just create fake
ones for them, which is even more crazy. Exactly,
like you pay everybody else, like, or you dress
grab people on the street, like, hey, do you
want to show up for this free event? Right like
you'll be on TV. It's exposure. I know like who's
gonna like no one's gonna turn that down Well,
now I will show up anywhere where people are
looking at me and taking pictures of me like
I was sure Exactly. You want to put me on TV,
say less. What do I have to do? OK, you got it.
I got you. Don't even ask. I'll be there. Say
less. All right. So we're going to wrap and then
we're going to be back. We'll probably do a pop
culture podcast this weekend. um at some point
because it's been a while since we've done that
and we're gonna talk um diddy documentary which
Gina and I watched Gina you watched that right
Of course I did. There's a lot of stuff I wanna
talk about with the Diddy documentary. And then
that David trial, they've been questioning some
people. I think the head of David's touring company
was questioned by a grand jury the other day.
So there's been some developments in that story
that we talked about it weeks, oh my God, probably
months ago now. Months ago. Yeah, we'll talk
about some developments in that. And then I think
the Backstreet Boy Brian is suing another person
for walking on the beach by his house. So we'll
be talking about that. There's something else
that I think we were going to talk about in pop
culture, too. We'll talk about that this coming
sometime this week or this weekend. um either
you know it's been a weird a weird time the news
has been disturbing and strange lately so we'll
get into some of that stuff and oh and i wanted
to get into the luigi mangione case i haven't
really talked about it but i guess that the case
has been going on so i wanted to talk to you
about some of the stuff that i heard about the
case and get your opinion on that too yeah we'll
have we'll have to do because i haven't really
been up to date like on that Aspect with like
the Luigi Luigi mountain G only like I haven't
been like I just read sometimes our TMZ or whatnot
So I haven't been really up to date on that But
I will have to do some research upon that right
so to see what's going on same thing with the
David I haven't really heard or seen anything.
So I will have to do some research on that of
what's going on with that. So, but regardless,
I'm sure it will be interesting and I'll be like,
Oh, I told you great. Like, like I said before
with the David trial, I'm like persons only guilty,
like guilty once it's been proven and they probably
need to collect more evidence and more evidence.
So well, the grand jury is interviewing people
and you know, when you are, when someone is indicted,
they're usually indicted by a grand jury, meaning
that you have to convince all of the people on
that grand jury that this person did this in
order to bring charges. So that's the stage that
they're at now. So they've been interviewing
people to try to - Wait, where is this taking
place? This grand jury selection? It's in California.
Oh, it's in California. Okay. Nevermind. Because
I had emailed one of our vendors. for my work
and they're on jury duty but I think they're
located in Michigan. Oh, yeah, they're in Ohio.
Oh, like it's somewhere in the East. I'm like,
wait, wait, can there be like two ties to this?
But it's weird because he said the person's email
said, and I don't know, basically, jury duty
here means like you don't if it's a high profile
case, you can't have access to like, I don't
think you can have access to your mobile devices
or emails or whatever. But I don't know how that
works in the States. So if it's the same thing.
Not not all cases are like that. Um, and that's
called yeah three sequestering I believe it's
where you can't watch TV or or have your yes,
sir questioning They do that for certain cases
That's why I said high profile. Yeah, it's just
so you're not Influenced by the outside world
type of thing like that and that be factual But
the grand jury is just who does the indictment.
The grand jury wouldn't be the jury that listens
to the case. The grand jury are the people that
decide if they want to charge this person with
that crime. So that's kind of what they're doing.
Those grand jury, they're not like, I don't want
to say they're not like regular 12 people, but
those are people who listen to police reports
and decide. how to charge people, like how to
proceed further. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Just the
digital system works differently. I believe here.
Right. So that's why. Okay. Well, I've got some
homework to do then to catch up on what you know.
So, well, you know, me, I'm a knowledge head.
I like to know Things that aren't going to ever
help me in life. I'm just I just want to know.
So yeah, except for geography, not not. Well,
how would that help me? I could just tell the
airport where I want to go and they'll take me.
I don't need to know where. Why would I ever
need to know where it is? You know, I'm not flying
the plane. Like, why would I ever need to know
where it physically is? I just tell the people
at the airport or the the airline where I want
to go. And then they tell me get on this plane
and you'll go there. That's that's the only information
I would ever need. Yeah, just don't like there's
a Paris Texas and then there's a Paris France
don't make that don't make that choice Well,
I'm pretty sure I don't want to go to Paris,
Texas. I mean, I'm not saying I don't I know
what's there, but I probably don't want to go
Yeah, wouldn't blame you. I remember Vancouver
has to like Vancouver Canada and then there's
Vancouver Washington where Laura's from I don't
think you want to go to Vancouver, Washington
that there was two vancouver's so yeah that's
good information see that's the type of information
i like to have useless information all right
guys i'm sorry again that it's been almost a
month someone dm me and said it's been almost
a month since we recorded a podcast and that's
horrible and i'm sorry and we'll get back on
it i promise um thanks for listening thank you
to gina for joining and This has been fun, right?
It has been. We've caught up. We've talked about
personal stuff. We've talked about both shows.
This has been an epic episode. Yeah, it's been
good. It's been fun. And we'll be back soon with
the pop culture, and then we'll be back for more
Before the 90 Days. um and and whatever that
entails i'm excited about so everybody have a
good week hope you had a good thanksgiving and
it's christmas time so don't be like me i haven't
purchased one christmas present yet don't be
like me be better than me because i hope y 'all
have already started because i haven't so if
you haven't get on it because i'm behind all
right guys we'll talk yes already soon bye bye