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It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes

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from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest

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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,

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your moment. What is up, everyone? Welcome to

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another episode of Sounders Scuttlebutt. I'm

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your host, Cameron Collins, and I am here with

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my other host for the day, the one and only Alex

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Diaz. What is up, Alex? What's going on? You

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ready to talk some Sounders and some other world

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football and all sorts of others? It feels like

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there's been not a lot to talk about. For a while.

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Yeah, this international break, it just felt

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like it was only a week long, but it felt like

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it was a month long. I thought it was the offseason

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again. Yeah, and I think it doesn't help that

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the Sounders haven't been at home since February?

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Was that the last time they were? Yeah, since

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February. But what's so crazy about that is that

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we went undefeated in the month of March. Yeah.

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Was it four wins and a draw? Yeah, four wins

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and a draw. And if you take a look at that, you're

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like, oh, they must have had a lot of home games.

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Nope, all away games. Even the home game that

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was in Spokane, now it's an away game. Yeah,

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totally. So that's a kind of crazy, crazy thing.

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Maybe, I don't know, it's interesting because

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you definitely see the play not as... hyped up

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on the road, but we're coming away with points

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this year, which is something we couldn't do

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last year. This season is that we have done better

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defensively in the final parts in the last half

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an hour, last 20 -15 minutes where we're able

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to absorb pressure and bend and not break. We're

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not giving up goals on set pieces anymore. was

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what felt like our kryptonite last season was

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set pieces. Yeah, totally. And it does feel like

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we're a little better, but we'll get into all

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that. I'm trying to think if there's any non

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-soccer scuttlebutt, anything in the world. Pukundukua

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is in rehab. I wish him well. He's kind of a

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fad. Oh. This is why you silence your phones.

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The professional, the one that's been on radio

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since 1999, didn't silence his phone. That was

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real smart of me. That's the new soundboard.

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Yeah, yeah. What's up next? Yeah, I mean, I'm

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trying to think of just any news out there that

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we've seen. That's non -soccer related. That's

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worth talking about. Baseball started. Yeah,

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baseball started. The Mariners, I think they're

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probably 500. Yeah, I think they lost last night.

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Yeah, I think they lost two or three to the Yankees

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and split the first series. So one under. They

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don't look terrible. They look fine. Not any

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reason to freak out yet. And they just signed

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Colt Emerson to a, what, 10 -year, 100 and...

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$40 million deal or something like that. Yeah,

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I've seen that. It's gnarly. You only see that

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type of deal from Chelsea. Yeah, I mean, you

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lock up those. I mean, Dodgers do it, but what's

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the difference between Dodgers and Chelsea? Nothing,

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really. One of them won championships. Chelsea's

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won quite a few. Come on. Yeah, but it's been

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a while. Yeah, it's been a few years. Not that

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bad. That's because they're owned by Americans

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now, and that's the problem. But, yeah, it's

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just they locked up their, I think, number seven

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overall prospect in baseball for the next decade.

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You know, the thing, I think the Mariners have

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done this in the past, and the guy never made

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it to the pros with, what, Evan White? Wasn't

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that big of a contract. So we'll see. I think

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he actually is getting called up. very soon that

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would be my guess if they made this contract

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but uh even with jp crawford being brought off

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the dl and brought or excuse me the il and uh

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brought back to the team ahead of the angel series

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coming up yeah i've seen a video of jp playing

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with i think it's the rainiers oh yeah nice yeah

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he that's cool it's kind of interesting how like

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we were talking about this last year of how in

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baseball they play with the minor league team

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and then they get bumped up when they're rehabbing

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an injury like why can't we do that with soccer

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it's a good question i need i still need to grab

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lunch with craig uh and so i'll i remind me to

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ask him when i do that because um that when i

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asked uh jackson felts the same question you

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know who covers the sounders for kjr slash is

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the pre and post game show host he was like you

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know that's a good question for craig Yeah, no,

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because it's an opportunity for them to get,

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you know, it's game minutes. It's just like we

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do with the younger players. Why can't we do

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that to rehab an injury? Like, wouldn't it be

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awesome to go see Pedro and Starfire drop four

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goals against the Whitecaps 2 team? I saw Felix

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Hernandez pitch in Everett. I didn't get to see

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much because my nephew was like, eight or nine

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at the time and kept wanting to go get food and

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threw a fit if I didn't take him. So I did, I

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did not get to see that. I mean, that's one of

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those ones where I would just sat there and watch,

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but I did, I did get to see him. Of course, I

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think he pitched there the first time around

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when he actually was coming up, but to see Felix

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do that later was pretty fun. Yeah. Baseball's

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back. What did we, Seahawks are in the off season.

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The Torrent are coming down the stretch here.

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The Kraken fell apart down the stretch. Looks

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like they're not going to make the playoffs.

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How's the rain? The rain, you know, it feels

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like the rain are missing a few pieces still.

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Like they haven't recovered from last season

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where they couldn't make any signings. It might

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be a Seattle soccer thing then. Well, they couldn't

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make any signings because they were for sale

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in... And so you just couldn't spend the money,

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right, until the outgoing owners didn't want

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to spend any. And until that was approved, you

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know, it wasn't going to happen. So they lost

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some big players. I don't know if they've replaced

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those, but I think they're still a fun team.

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I mean, we saw them beat Racing Louisville over

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the weekend and defeat the KC Current. So they

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currently sit in third with nine points out of

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a possible 12, I believe. No, it's not. But the

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losses to Portland, though, that's the... Yeah,

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they're actually somehow ahead of Portland in

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the standings. I don't know how standings work

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sometimes. I'm assuming it's goal differential.

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Yeah. Well, I did see that the goalie for the

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rain guard called up for the U .S. WNT, the women's

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national team. Awesome. So I'm like, that means

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we're doing something good as far as the defense.

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Yeah, goal differential plus three. So it probably

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goes to goals four. Oh, we're plus four. Yeah.

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So we're actually tied for first, but Angel City

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has a game in hand. So I think it'll be a fun

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season, but they've also been on the road. Yeah.

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For the same reason that the Sounders have. And

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they're going to play a lot more in Spokane than

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we are. Yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting. We didn't

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talk about the big news. We alluded to the last

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show that the Sonics may be coming back. The

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NBA has to obviously approve it. They're putting

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out bids for ownership groups to step up to the

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plate. There already is an ownership group in

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place. I was talking to Gary Payton last weekend,

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and he thinks it's a done deal. everyone's like,

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hold on, listen to the words of Nate. No, not

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Nate Silver, David Silver, whatever the guy is,

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the commissioner of the NBA. Now that's how much

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I pay attention to the NBA because of it. But

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he's like, hold on. Like you're saying this is

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just a chance they have to go through. But to

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me, it feels more like these are the steps legally

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that you have to go through. And so while it's

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not a done deal and lots of stuff can come up,

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I'm confident that it's more likely than not

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that it's going to happen. Yeah. Are they planning

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to use Climate Pledge as the NBA arena? Yeah,

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because the same ownership as the Kraken. And

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we're already seeing ownership groups switch

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around in the amount they own of certain stuff

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because the stadium in Vegas or the team in Vegas

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will be owned by the team that built the stadium

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here. So the meaning, the team of owners. So

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they were seeing some stuff already getting moved

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around to make sure that it's it's falls under

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the NBA guidelines for owner. You know, you can't

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own two teams and and whatnot and have contradictions

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too much. But yeah, I mean, I think I think they'll

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play there. They'll be another team. And I'm

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excited. You know, I don't I won't get tickets.

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Because they're going to be too expensive because

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everything's too expensive. But I think Seattle

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becomes the city with the most pro teams of any

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city in the country. Between the Reign, the Sounders,

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the Kraken, the Torrent, the Mariners, the Sonics,

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the Storm, the rugby team, the Seawolves. Don't

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forget the Superhawks. Yeah, Superhawks. No,

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but they're minor league. But, yeah, I mean,

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they're pro basketball. You're right. And then

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you don't even get all the USL teams we have.

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Yep, yep. But, I mean, ultimately with the USL

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teams, this is way, like, going off sideways.

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But you know how London has, like, eight Premier

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League teams? Yeah. I don't know if they actually

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have that many, but they have eight major teams.

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Well, they might have a championship team here

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pretty soon. Yeah. Yeah, they already have one,

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but they'll have more. I would love it if we

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had that in the Seattle area, where there was

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eight minor league teams around. You know, USL

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2 is not going to be part of the pyramid, which

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is a bummer. So they can't get promoted up to

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USL 1. But they're also semi -pros, so I guess

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it makes sense. Over the years, we could see

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a USO1 team form. Yeah, I think so for sure.

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I mean, I think any team, like Ballard could

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move up now if they wanted to. It's just the

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amount of investment I think you need in it is

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tough. And I think there is a realistic concern

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for some of the minor league teams with so many

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pros. I mean, if the Sonics come back, that's

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more money that has to be spent on them by fans.

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And so that's less time and less money. for other

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teams. Yeah. But I just, I think that with all

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this, all these sports, different sports teams

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in Seattle and let's, you want to see it. Let's

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see. You want to watch the basketball, basketball

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game on Tuesday. And then they're like, Oh, Ballard

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plays on Friday. Go see Ballard. I think tickets

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are, you know, they're, they're pretty cheap.

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They're good. Maybe they're like 20 bucks. Maybe.

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you can take a cheaper than that sometimes you

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can take a family uh member you can take a family

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there and it's what the mariners used to be right

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yeah so you could take your family uh at least

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during the playoffs not the play yeah during

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the u .s open cup it i was a little bummed at

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the the lack of amenities there but i think uh

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that was off season right that wasn't actually

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played during the ballard fc season they just

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had to bring in the players they had locally

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and Like Lamar Nagel and some other former Sounders

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were on the team. Oh, yeah, because it was during

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college. And, you know, a lot of other players

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were over there winning a national championship.

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Yeah. Yeah. No, but I think... Yeah, but I think

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going back to the Sonics, I think the NBA has

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seen, you know, the ratings and revenue drop

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over the, you know, past couple seasons. If the

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Sonics come back, revenue is going to... It's

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going to skyrocket. You're going to see that

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upward trajectory. Yeah, and they've been creating

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revenue this entire time for the NBA since all

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that merch gets sold. There's no team that they

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have to share that revenue with. It just goes

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straight to the NBA. I mean, they might need

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to do revenue sharing with all the teams, but

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it certainly does not come here. Word has it,

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I read a reporter saying that Oklahoma City will

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give up the history to Seattle. And that's the

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kind of stuff that makes me think that there's

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been enough done behind the scenes to make this

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happen. Obviously not getting my hopes up completely

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until it's done. But I mean, I remember where

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I was when they announced the deal that let them

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move. I mean, I was in my, I had the radio on

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in the bathroom and my. which was right across

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the hall from my bedroom at the time I was living

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in Leschi and just sat down and started crying.

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And my girlfriend was like, what's wrong? And

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I had to like explain to her like, Oh, the team's

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moving that I grew up with. And you know, this

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was a basketball city. It still is a basketball

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city. It is. It is. But I mean, the Mariners

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were terrible. The Seahawks were terrible. There

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were no Sounders. This was a city that thrived

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on the supersonics. So losing them still to this

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day makes no sense. Shout out to James Ward,

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who watched Sonic Skate the other day, which

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you can watch in its entirety. Get the director's

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cut, the full -length version, not the TV version,

00:15:12.990 --> 00:15:16.649
on YouTube for free. A movie I was an associate

00:15:16.649 --> 00:15:19.669
producer on and did all the legal work for. Gonna

00:15:19.669 --> 00:15:23.340
have to check that out. It's so good, but I can't

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watch the second. I can only watch the beginning

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when it's the history. When we were touring with

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it in theaters, I had to walk out after the history

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because it just upset me too much after I saw

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it for the first time. Yeah. And I think seeing

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all the talent that there is at the high school

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level, you don't really see it with UW as much

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because I think... A lot of the kids go to the

00:15:51.490 --> 00:15:54.049
other schools, especially like on the East Coast

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and, you know, the Big Ten. What's the other

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one? The ACC. UW is not keeping – I mean, I think

00:16:02.289 --> 00:16:04.090
college basketball doesn't keep local talent

00:16:04.090 --> 00:16:08.629
anymore. Yeah. Not with NIL deals, everything.

00:16:08.730 --> 00:16:12.919
The whole thing has changed now. Yeah. Yeah,

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but looking at all these great high schools that

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have these great basketball teams, you have teams

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going back to back to back, and they're just

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dominating at the state level. Speaking of which,

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did you go to Yakima's own Yakima Heat versus

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the Superhawks? Didn't they play there recently?

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No, that's going to be next or in a few weeks.

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I think it's in two weeks. Yeah. I forgot. Oh,

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no, you're right. It was a Saturday game, so

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they wouldn't play again until this week. Well,

00:16:51.179 --> 00:16:54.440
they have a doubleheader coming up. Oh, nice.

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Against Vancouver Bears. They play them on, I

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think, Friday and Saturday. Yakima has a long

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history of minor league basketballs and sending

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players to the pros. Yeah, because I remember

00:17:06.740 --> 00:17:10.660
a couple years ago we had the Sun Kings. Yep.

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And the Sun Kings was the team that was there

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throughout the 80s and 90s too. I mean, that's

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the historical team that you had players like

00:17:19.740 --> 00:17:25.400
the original Super Hawks coach, Eldon, who went

00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:31.119
on to guard Michael Jordan. Like, how do you

00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.140
go from Yakima to there? But dominated the league

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and got picked up by the Hawks. There might have

00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.259
been a little European stint in the middle there,

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but, you know, like you see players go pro. So

00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:47.059
good on the Yakima Heat. Malik, the assistant

00:17:47.059 --> 00:17:50.460
coach, is a former Super Hawks player. So although

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we squanched all over you guys this past weekend.

00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.740
Yeah. If you guys don't win the championship

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this year, then someone has to get fired. Yeah.

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I mean, there are six coaches that we have now

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that are all like. Former NBA, WNBA, and, I mean,

00:18:10.130 --> 00:18:14.150
our other assistant coach, I mean, superstars,

00:18:14.150 --> 00:18:16.089
and then our other assistant coach led Franklin

00:18:16.089 --> 00:18:18.170
to a bunch of championships over 20 years. And

00:18:18.170 --> 00:18:21.670
then you have, like, a former NBA player that's

00:18:21.670 --> 00:18:26.849
in his prime. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, like, just

00:18:26.849 --> 00:18:30.569
kidding. It's all injuries, right? And people

00:18:30.569 --> 00:18:33.950
say healthy, but. You guys are the inner Miami

00:18:33.950 --> 00:18:37.950
of the league. Oh, my God. It's true. No, because

00:18:37.950 --> 00:18:39.750
we only have one. We're not bringing in other

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people yet. Not yet. Well, let's talk some soccer

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here. We had some interesting matchups this past

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weekend where we saw Italy once again decide

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to boycott the FIFA World Cup. You know, they

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decided, you know. For humanitarian purposes,

00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.400
we just don't want to go to Trump's America.

00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:07.099
And lost in penalties to Bosnia with the Milwaukee

00:19:07.099 --> 00:19:10.940
Messi hitting the game -winning penalty. It's

00:19:10.940 --> 00:19:13.460
because they'd rather go to the Russia World

00:19:13.460 --> 00:19:19.680
Cup. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's insane that Italy

00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.700
has now missed the last three World Cups. I'm

00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:27.769
not surprised. Because these past three World

00:19:27.769 --> 00:19:31.230
Cup cycles, what I have noticed is that in the

00:19:31.230 --> 00:19:35.369
big moments, Italy is crumbling. Yeah. And this

00:19:35.369 --> 00:19:40.089
goes far deeper into, if you look at their league,

00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:43.950
the Serie A, what players are dominating the

00:19:43.950 --> 00:19:49.410
league? A lot of foreigners. Yeah. You had Scott

00:19:49.410 --> 00:19:51.990
McTominay win player of the season the first

00:19:51.990 --> 00:19:55.519
year he went in. Is he still there? I think he's

00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:59.700
in Napoli still. Okay. And, you know, he was

00:19:59.700 --> 00:20:02.359
average for Man United. Then he goes to Napoli

00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:06.059
and he's all of a sudden this superstar. But

00:20:06.059 --> 00:20:09.220
Italy, what's Italy known for? They're known

00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:13.720
for producing world -class defenders and midfielders.

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But when is the last time they've produced a

00:20:18.019 --> 00:20:23.619
world -class attacker or a winger? Yeah, I guess

00:20:23.619 --> 00:20:27.119
for me there's a bunch, but those are not recent.

00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:29.980
Yeah, it's like when people talk about Brazil's

00:20:29.980 --> 00:20:33.140
dominance back then. It's like when you hear

00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:36.539
a 49er fan talking about their five rings. You

00:20:36.539 --> 00:20:38.619
got to go get a VHS to go see that, just like

00:20:38.619 --> 00:20:41.500
we got to go see the black and white Brazil dominating

00:20:41.500 --> 00:20:47.819
the World Cup. I mean, no. The 94, 98 Brazil

00:20:47.819 --> 00:20:54.480
teams were incredible. They were, but now? The

00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:56.460
thing is, it's relative, right? Sure, are they

00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:58.079
number one in the world? No, but they're top

00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:01.160
five in the world. Brazil top five? I think so.

00:21:01.220 --> 00:21:04.140
I can name five teams that are over Brazil. You

00:21:04.140 --> 00:21:06.700
think so? Yeah. What are they actually ranked?

00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:08.859
I wonder. That's a good question. Maybe top ten.

00:21:08.900 --> 00:21:10.920
I'm looking at the best Italian strikers ever

00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:16.839
just to see when the newest one was. This is

00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:21.599
by 442, which is a major soccer magazine out

00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:23.619
of England that's been around forever. But Robert

00:21:23.619 --> 00:21:27.819
Baggio was on the 94 team. This guy was from

00:21:27.819 --> 00:21:31.380
the 30s. This guy was in the 80s. This guy was

00:21:31.380 --> 00:21:36.140
in the 30s. There's no one. Del Piero, who was

00:21:36.140 --> 00:21:42.480
in the 90s and 2000s. Toti, same thing. I'll

00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:45.579
give you Toti, but Toti was in... Toti's been

00:21:45.579 --> 00:21:48.109
what? since i think the last time we played was

00:21:48.109 --> 00:21:51.210
around 2010 2015 yeah i mean christian vieira

00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:57.130
late 90s i mean they've done luca tony mid 2000s

00:21:57.130 --> 00:22:00.470
that might be that might be the i mean like you're

00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:02.809
right you're absolutely you can make a case for

00:22:02.809 --> 00:22:08.119
balotelli Yeah. But he, I don't know if he did

00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:10.779
anything for the international. He was good at

00:22:10.779 --> 00:22:12.440
the club level. I just don't know if he did anything

00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:14.259
for the Italian club. Yeah, he seemed to never,

00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:18.940
never, yeah. He was always a frustrating player

00:22:18.940 --> 00:22:20.980
to watch because of the amount of talent he had.

00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:25.279
But since you mentioned Baggio, I've been seeing

00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:30.440
that he wrote a 900 -page report on how to fix

00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:35.240
Italian football. so they won't miss another

00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.119
World Cup. And the Federation just said, nah,

00:22:37.339 --> 00:22:41.640
let's just not worry about it. I mean, they got

00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:45.900
to celebrate those heroes. Sadly, Gianluca Vialli

00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:49.039
passed away, who was coaching for them before.

00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:54.319
He's my favorite player of all time. Zola's getting

00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:59.720
older. They got to, yeah. I mean, I feel bad

00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:04.180
for my Italian friends, I love it when Italy

00:23:04.180 --> 00:23:06.119
doesn't make it. I really wanted to make a video

00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.579
of me being like, I'm going to eat a spaghetti

00:23:08.579 --> 00:23:12.559
because I feel bad for my friends from Italy

00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:14.160
who didn't get it. And then I was going to break

00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:16.099
the spaghetti in half and throw it in the bowl.

00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:18.359
And then get the ketchup and be like, here's

00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.579
my sauce. And what's funny is that Adidas had

00:23:21.579 --> 00:23:25.880
dropped their World Cup jersey. Oh, no. And it

00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:29.680
was the one they wore against Bosnia. Okay, yeah.

00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.680
So now that that Jersey is cursed and it's going

00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:35.500
to bring a lot of Italian fans, you know, a lot

00:23:35.500 --> 00:23:40.000
of pain. Yeah. But I mean, the funny thing is

00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.299
they, who was it? They had a defender who was

00:23:42.299 --> 00:23:44.400
born in New Jersey and I was always mad that

00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:48.640
he never, like the Americans just never tried

00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.559
to even get them into camp. And that seems like

00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.079
something that we do a lot here where we miss

00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:56.180
out on brilliant American players who have dual

00:23:56.180 --> 00:24:00.359
nationality because they. Because of politics,

00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.640
like soccer politics, not like... Well, I think

00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:05.819
they're going to miss out on this. I can't remember

00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:08.279
his first name, but he's in the Bundesliga. He's

00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:13.019
half German. Banks is his last name. And it's

00:24:13.019 --> 00:24:15.839
looking like he's more than likely going to play

00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.759
for Germany. Which, I mean, he'll have more success

00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:23.640
playing for Germany. I mean... Unless you want

00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:27.890
to win a Gold Cup. But where will he get more

00:24:27.890 --> 00:24:29.769
minutes? I mean, I think that's one of the reasons

00:24:29.769 --> 00:24:33.089
why people choose other countries. Landon's been

00:24:33.089 --> 00:24:35.130
really hard on him. And Landy Cakes, man, you

00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:37.529
don't get to be hard on people. Yeah, he's like

00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:39.589
the kid's 18. He wants him to make a decision

00:24:39.589 --> 00:24:42.849
that's going to change his trajectory for the

00:24:42.849 --> 00:24:46.210
next 10, 15 years. Right. Like he's 18. Like

00:24:46.210 --> 00:24:50.150
when I was 18, I was I don't think the same way

00:24:50.150 --> 00:24:52.740
I did three years ago, four years ago. When I

00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:54.579
was 18, I was a senior in high school. Yeah.

00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:58.359
When I was 18, COVID was still a thing. Oh, my

00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:05.859
God. You're a baby. Yeah. But if you look at

00:25:05.859 --> 00:25:08.680
Italian football again, what do coaches tend

00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.119
to do? They tend to play the more experienced

00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:14.640
players because if they don't get results, they

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.140
get fired. So they don't really get the chance

00:25:18.140 --> 00:25:19.500
to play the youth because they don't have the

00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:24.470
chance to, you know. to mess up because if if

00:25:24.470 --> 00:25:28.150
you drop if you drop points here there and then

00:25:28.150 --> 00:25:30.970
guess what you're gonna come in the next day

00:25:30.970 --> 00:25:35.089
you're fired and i think that the top teams hoard

00:25:35.089 --> 00:25:38.150
the youth versus like in germany you'll have

00:25:38.150 --> 00:25:41.269
youth players on other local teams that come

00:25:41.269 --> 00:25:43.849
up and then they will get bought later but uh

00:25:43.849 --> 00:25:48.049
you know germany has consistently been able to

00:25:48.049 --> 00:25:51.559
reboot their team with new players Yeah. But

00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.799
even like, look at Juventus, they have some youth,

00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.200
you know, they got some young players, but what

00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.079
are the young players they have are from Turkey.

00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.960
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, France, you know, it's similar.

00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:09.019
I mean, that's, that's the one beautiful thing

00:26:09.019 --> 00:26:15.240
about some of these teams is that. When you live

00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.220
in a country of immigrants, you get to bring

00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:19.599
in people from all over the world to be on your

00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.819
national team. And I like that about the U .S.

00:26:21.819 --> 00:26:23.539
too, but let me tell you, the xenophobes get

00:26:23.539 --> 00:26:26.940
real mad about it. Yeah, or if they're playing

00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:32.940
MLS. Yeah, exactly. So let's talk about some

00:26:32.940 --> 00:26:34.480
of these other games because we did say Italy

00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:38.019
won one loss in penalties to Bosnia and Herzegovina.

00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.539
Czechia beat Denmark 2 -2 in penalties to go

00:26:42.539 --> 00:26:46.089
through. Turkey A beat Kosovo 1 -0 to go through,

00:26:46.150 --> 00:26:50.089
and Sweden knocked out Poland 3 -2. Those are

00:26:50.089 --> 00:26:53.630
the European qualifiers. Congo beat Jamaica to

00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:56.309
make the World Cup. Jamaica had those Bob Marley

00:26:56.309 --> 00:27:00.029
retro kits. Kind of a bummer that we're not going

00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:03.230
to get to see those at the World Cup. But DR

00:27:03.230 --> 00:27:05.289
Congo looks like fun. I saw on a video their

00:27:05.289 --> 00:27:08.690
fans. They're going to be a party if they're

00:27:08.690 --> 00:27:12.049
able to get visas. Absolutely. It'll be great.

00:27:12.859 --> 00:27:18.740
I mean, I'm sure there's a large Congolese contingent

00:27:18.740 --> 00:27:20.980
in the U .S. already who hopefully can travel

00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:22.980
to – do you know where they're playing? I don't

00:27:22.980 --> 00:27:25.400
know. I don't know, but I don't know if they're

00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:29.039
even – just take your prices. It's a mess. Yeah,

00:27:29.059 --> 00:27:31.259
no kidding. That's what we should have done.

00:27:31.299 --> 00:27:33.980
Iraq, Libya, the other one. But, yeah, go ahead.

00:27:34.059 --> 00:27:37.359
But FIFA apparently has taken down pictures of

00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.940
the stadium maps because people are finding out

00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:43.640
where they're sitting. Yeah. And they're horrible

00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:49.720
seats. Yeah, mine are decent for the USA -Australia

00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:55.299
match. I'm in the corner. 214. I haven't been

00:27:55.299 --> 00:27:59.339
able to see my ticket. You had to go into ticket

00:27:59.339 --> 00:28:02.920
sales and then look inside while you were in

00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.380
the ticket sales trying to buy a ticket. So I

00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:08.339
had those. And then I looked at my other ones.

00:28:10.059 --> 00:28:14.500
300 -level row BB, so way up at the top for the

00:28:14.500 --> 00:28:19.500
Qatar -Kosovo match. Yeah, it's Kosovo, right?

00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:27.880
Bosnia. Could have been Italy. Yeah, I mean,

00:28:27.900 --> 00:28:30.039
that's the thing. As much as I was rooting against

00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.099
Italy, it did hurt me in case I wanted to resell

00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:35.799
those tickets. Tickets are on sale to the public

00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:41.750
now. I did not buy any because who knows what's

00:28:41.750 --> 00:28:44.369
left. Maybe I'll pull it up right now and see.

00:28:45.150 --> 00:28:48.869
But hopefully they start dropping prices. They

00:28:48.869 --> 00:28:52.670
don't seem like they want to, though. Yeah, I

00:28:52.670 --> 00:28:54.890
was talking to a friend of mine earlier in the

00:28:54.890 --> 00:28:57.609
week before the Italy game. I'm like, Italy is

00:28:57.609 --> 00:29:00.710
going to blow it. They always tend to. I'm like,

00:29:00.750 --> 00:29:06.650
I have Bosnia going through. And, you know, that's

00:29:06.650 --> 00:29:12.990
what happened. Yep. So pretty crazy, pretty crazy.

00:29:14.490 --> 00:29:17.049
Why don't we take a break here and we'll come

00:29:17.049 --> 00:29:18.809
back and we'll do some sounder scuttlebutt and

00:29:18.809 --> 00:29:20.450
then we'll talk about the upcoming Houston match.

00:29:22.069 --> 00:29:42.670
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Yeah, join the Patreon. With the off -season,

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there wasn't much there, but I think Cedar wants

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to do a FIFA battle against me that we'll put

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up there. Maybe you and I can play some Fortnite

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with some of the other Patreon members. Yeah.

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I don't know. But, you know, originally I wanted...

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to do interviews that were Patreon only. But

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until we get enough members there, I think it

00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:58.650
doesn't make sense because I don't want to take

00:31:58.650 --> 00:32:00.890
an interview that's just so awesome and then

00:32:00.890 --> 00:32:03.210
have it behind a paywall. I mean, we just got

00:32:03.210 --> 00:32:07.670
to create some FOMO. Yeah, yeah. But I think

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we need a little bit more people into it first.

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And so, you know, join the Patreon. You can get

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it for $1 .74. Yeah, it's two bucks. Cheaper

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than gas. Yeah, way cheaper than gas. But, yeah,

00:32:21.470 --> 00:32:24.170
the Sounders coming back, playing this Saturday

00:32:24.170 --> 00:32:27.289
at Houston. We got some bad news, though. You

00:32:27.289 --> 00:32:30.630
were the one that broke the news to us. Yeah.

00:32:30.730 --> 00:32:33.849
I mean, Nico. It wasn't you reporting. It was

00:32:33.849 --> 00:32:38.750
Nico reporting, I presume. Yeah. But Brian Schmister

00:32:38.750 --> 00:32:40.890
talked about it at the press conference. You

00:32:40.890 --> 00:32:44.569
want to talk about that? Yeah. Nikolai Petrovic

00:32:44.569 --> 00:32:48.809
is out for the year towards ACL. He's been looking

00:32:48.809 --> 00:32:52.509
good, so it's a little frustrating, huh? Yeah,

00:32:52.650 --> 00:32:55.490
it was too good to be true that we got in this

00:32:55.490 --> 00:33:01.829
early in the year without an ECO. I mean, the

00:33:01.829 --> 00:33:03.890
hope was we wouldn't have to deal with one, but

00:33:03.890 --> 00:33:07.529
hopefully that's it. It was on practice on Saturday.

00:33:08.009 --> 00:33:11.609
Yeah. And the thing that was so upsetting, and

00:33:11.609 --> 00:33:13.329
Brian didn't know anything about it in the press

00:33:13.329 --> 00:33:14.910
conference, he was like, oh, I don't know, but

00:33:14.910 --> 00:33:17.869
they had interviewed him that week before. And

00:33:17.869 --> 00:33:19.730
he talked about how excited he was for his parents

00:33:19.730 --> 00:33:22.289
to come into town. And it just kind of breaks

00:33:22.289 --> 00:33:24.529
my heart that his parents flew across the world

00:33:24.529 --> 00:33:29.210
to, you know, be here while he was getting in

00:33:29.210 --> 00:33:30.829
with this team and for him to get that injury.

00:33:30.950 --> 00:33:33.950
But also, I'm glad they're actually going to

00:33:33.950 --> 00:33:36.690
be here to take care of him now, to help him

00:33:36.690 --> 00:33:39.089
mentally more than anything, because I'm sure

00:33:39.089 --> 00:33:42.869
either Seattle or Carolina, whoever chooses to.

00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.200
carolina chooses to do the surgery will take

00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.640
care of him yeah physically yeah because that's

00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:50.420
that's where um it makes me like wonder i'm like

00:33:50.420 --> 00:33:55.319
since he's on loan who are we is he gonna rehab

00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:57.980
in seattle is he gonna relet rehab in charlotte

00:33:57.980 --> 00:34:01.140
i mean ultimately i think it's up to charlotte

00:34:01.140 --> 00:34:05.240
um my guess is they will let him be here but

00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:10.900
you know uh i because he doesn't really have

00:34:10.900 --> 00:34:12.219
a spot there anymore it's one of the reasons

00:34:12.219 --> 00:34:14.920
why he was they moved from the club. Right. Yeah.

00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.559
And I mean, I liked the way that he was playing.

00:34:18.420 --> 00:34:20.679
Yeah. He, well, Schmetzer said that he said,

00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.099
you know, we can't, I can't say whether or not

00:34:22.099 --> 00:34:23.940
we're going to resign him or not. Cause that's

00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:26.559
all like, there's contract tractual stuff around

00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.900
all of this and the loan, you know, who knows,

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.800
this is me saying this alone may automatically

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.159
end with the injury. You know, who, who knows

00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.480
what's in that language, but I would love to

00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:41.219
see him back. If. If there's a way to make that

00:34:41.219 --> 00:34:44.460
happen. I don't know if that changes the value,

00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:49.219
though, also, of what he offers. I think if we're

00:34:49.219 --> 00:34:51.840
able to sign him back, but at a lower value,

00:34:52.099 --> 00:34:57.920
then I think the fee was $2 million. Yeah. Around

00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.440
that range. If we're able to get him for cheaper,

00:35:00.579 --> 00:35:04.179
then I think it'll be a good deal. Yeah, like

00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:07.019
$2 million seems like a lot for him right now

00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:08.940
with that injury, right? He was going to have

00:35:08.940 --> 00:35:11.199
to show up and show out really well for that.

00:35:11.260 --> 00:35:13.960
Especially like we don't want to spend $2 million

00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.159
on a player that's going to be on the bench,

00:35:17.340 --> 00:35:22.139
a rotation player. I'd rather put that $2 million

00:35:22.139 --> 00:35:30.429
towards a DP striker. Yeah, no kidding. I hopefully,

00:35:30.570 --> 00:35:32.349
I mean, we talked about it in the Georgie episode.

00:35:32.710 --> 00:35:35.130
Hopefully that's something that can happen anyway.

00:35:35.289 --> 00:35:37.869
Yeah, it really looks like, you know, Craig is

00:35:37.869 --> 00:35:41.150
gearing up to do something in the summer. Yeah,

00:35:41.190 --> 00:35:43.869
that's what I feel like too. I know people are

00:35:43.869 --> 00:35:48.530
skeptical, but I mean, the amount of, I don't

00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:50.489
know the actual numbers, right? But the amount

00:35:50.489 --> 00:35:53.550
of gam we have available, I could also see us

00:35:53.550 --> 00:35:57.789
bringing in a U -22 striker. Yeah. a younger

00:35:57.789 --> 00:36:00.510
guy who's going to cost a couple million that

00:36:00.510 --> 00:36:04.710
can have an instant impact as well. But I don't

00:36:04.710 --> 00:36:11.710
know if – I would want a player of Pedro's stature,

00:36:11.849 --> 00:36:14.050
if I'm being honest. We need another X factor,

00:36:14.190 --> 00:36:16.170
a player that can take over a game on his own.

00:36:16.710 --> 00:36:19.190
Because if you look at the roster, the only player

00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:21.429
that can really change a game on its own is Pedro.

00:36:23.839 --> 00:36:25.420
Yeah, that's true. I mean, I feel like Jesus,

00:36:25.579 --> 00:36:27.260
we're starting to see a little more of that,

00:36:27.300 --> 00:36:30.199
but I wonder how much of that is because a, he's

00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.099
more comfortable and B when you have areola out

00:36:32.099 --> 00:36:34.219
there, it just gives them a little more freedom

00:36:34.219 --> 00:36:36.360
because he knows where they know each other so

00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.320
well. I see Jesus more as like a conductor, you

00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.679
know, he's the, he's the one that's gonna, he

00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:47.280
is like, he's like a painter, like a Bob Ross.

00:36:47.699 --> 00:36:50.460
He's going to paint the picture and then to finish

00:36:50.460 --> 00:36:54.239
it off, someone else is going to sign it. Yeah.

00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.960
He has been getting those goals, though. I mean,

00:36:57.019 --> 00:37:02.019
he's probably been our most successful player

00:37:02.019 --> 00:37:04.380
this year. I mean, by the numbers, don't you

00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:06.219
think? Yeah, he's been. You know, I think he's

00:37:06.219 --> 00:37:12.800
our top assister. Yeah. And he's got goals. And,

00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.760
like, this is the Jesus that I knew, you know,

00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.940
that he was going to be. Like, he was going to

00:37:20.940 --> 00:37:23.760
be, like. When they first announced the signing,

00:37:23.860 --> 00:37:27.239
I thought it was a great signing. And I know

00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:28.960
a lot of people were like, oh, he's going to

00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.800
be our new number nine. And, you know, that didn't

00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:35.960
necessarily work out because he's just not that

00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:40.199
same player he was back at Dallas. Because even

00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:42.739
in, you know, his last few years at Dallas, once

00:37:42.739 --> 00:37:45.340
they brought in Musa, he was playing more as

00:37:45.340 --> 00:37:49.059
a number 10, as a second striker. It would play

00:37:49.059 --> 00:37:57.900
off Musa. Yeah, totally. I mean, this year we,

00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.139
well, from the end of last year to this year,

00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:05.780
we sold Atencio for $1 .3 million, Leyva for

00:38:05.780 --> 00:38:10.059
$750 ,000, Obed for $2 .5 million, RBW for $1

00:38:10.059 --> 00:38:14.760
.1 million, and Minugu for $2 million. So we

00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.139
have, it feels like there should be some flexibility

00:38:18.139 --> 00:38:24.019
there. to pay down some players in order to sign

00:38:24.019 --> 00:38:30.139
an impact player. And then that also doesn't

00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:32.599
take into account how much money we still have

00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.880
from Club World Cup and Winning Leagues Cup.

00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.320
Yeah, I'd heard that we had spent the Club World

00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:44.880
Cup money already, but that season, that was

00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:48.550
part of bringing Jesus in. But I think it goes

00:38:48.550 --> 00:38:52.750
to the fact that we also were given GAM at the

00:38:52.750 --> 00:38:54.570
beginning of the season, and I have no idea how

00:38:54.570 --> 00:38:57.250
much GAM we have left. Yeah, well, that $2 million

00:38:57.250 --> 00:39:00.250
that we got from Georgie is all GAM. But I think

00:39:00.250 --> 00:39:01.909
it's like $1 million this year and $1 million

00:39:01.909 --> 00:39:06.250
next year. Yeah, but you can use it to pay down

00:39:06.250 --> 00:39:08.710
players and do all sorts of things. I think they're

00:39:08.710 --> 00:39:11.670
going to use some of it to offer Kingston a contract,

00:39:11.829 --> 00:39:13.829
even more so now with the injury to Pekovic.

00:39:14.650 --> 00:39:16.650
Oh, yeah, I think King Sin will be on this team

00:39:16.650 --> 00:39:19.949
for sure. I mean, I think that was already happening

00:39:19.949 --> 00:39:23.710
before the injury, just from getting rid of Georgie.

00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:25.190
Yeah, this would just push the envelope a little

00:39:25.190 --> 00:39:27.789
bit faster. And I think getting rid of wasn't

00:39:27.789 --> 00:39:30.269
the right phrasing there, I admit, from moving

00:39:30.269 --> 00:39:33.190
on from Georgie. Like we talked about in the

00:39:33.190 --> 00:39:36.769
last episode, I sadly did not get to put up the

00:39:36.769 --> 00:39:40.679
clickbait. clip I made from what we were talking

00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:43.019
about. But I think, like we said, it's a win

00:39:43.019 --> 00:39:46.380
-win, and I think it's good for the club. It's

00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:52.840
good for him. Man, Seattle, there's this thing,

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:55.059
and maybe this is true of all fandoms. I don't

00:39:55.059 --> 00:39:59.860
know. But I think Seattle has a tendency to love

00:39:59.860 --> 00:40:04.760
its players and devalue other players and overvalue

00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:10.559
our players. I mean, Georgie's a great player

00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.179
with potential, but our fans act like they know

00:40:15.179 --> 00:40:18.960
more than, you know, the people who have been

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.280
coaching him for six years or whatever it's been,

00:40:22.340 --> 00:40:26.960
five years. Yeah, I could see that. And I think

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.079
maybe because I see a lot more of the Seattle

00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.800
fan base than I do other fan bases. And I feel

00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:39.269
like also, you know, The Sounder fan base tends

00:40:39.269 --> 00:40:42.150
to love their players so much where they don't

00:40:42.150 --> 00:40:45.170
let him go when they should. Yeah, oh, definitely.

00:40:45.469 --> 00:40:48.110
I mean, Ozzy ended up playing well in Minnesota,

00:40:48.170 --> 00:40:50.329
but I think letting him go based on the amount

00:40:50.329 --> 00:40:52.949
of injuries he had had leading up to when they

00:40:52.949 --> 00:40:54.929
let him go was probably the right thing to do.

00:40:55.750 --> 00:40:57.949
You know, it's better to let go of a player too

00:40:57.949 --> 00:41:00.489
early than too late, like we did with Nico. And

00:41:00.489 --> 00:41:04.869
Ro. Yeah, I mean, I think Ro, but he wasn't.

00:41:05.449 --> 00:41:07.949
You know what I mean? His impact on the roster

00:41:07.949 --> 00:41:12.889
was not a high -level player. You can have some

00:41:12.889 --> 00:41:16.489
older players that aren't getting minutes on

00:41:16.489 --> 00:41:19.889
your bench. Yeah, but at the beginning of the

00:41:19.889 --> 00:41:22.769
year, he was starting, and then it just wasn't...

00:41:22.769 --> 00:41:25.750
He wasn't producing. That's when we had that

00:41:25.750 --> 00:41:29.610
slump that we couldn't score. Right, but he was

00:41:29.610 --> 00:41:33.210
never meant to be in that position. It just ended

00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:36.630
up that way. But, you know, I think we're seeing,

00:41:36.789 --> 00:41:39.150
you know, they move on from Georgie, but then

00:41:39.150 --> 00:41:46.610
they were getting a bunch of players back. Asani

00:41:46.610 --> 00:41:51.690
Dotson traveling to Houston. Stu Hawkins was

00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:53.449
out there for training, I believe, this week,

00:41:53.489 --> 00:41:56.269
right? I think he was either partial or full

00:41:56.269 --> 00:42:00.949
training. Yeah. You know, you still have... uh,

00:42:01.150 --> 00:42:05.710
anchor and, uh, the other players off to the

00:42:05.710 --> 00:42:09.210
side. Yes. Uh, sailor, Pedro, Yame or Alex all

00:42:09.210 --> 00:42:12.590
off to the side. Yeah. I think Alex is going

00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:16.329
to be, you know, okay to play. Cause it's, it's

00:42:16.329 --> 00:42:18.590
the hit pointer. So I think it's like, it's more

00:42:18.590 --> 00:42:24.530
bone than, or I'm not. Bone bruise. Yeah. I don't

00:42:24.530 --> 00:42:29.269
know. I'm not a doctor. I just play one on television.

00:42:30.630 --> 00:42:34.690
Yeah, I think injuries are biting us. And the

00:42:34.690 --> 00:42:36.489
fact that we've made it through this stretch

00:42:36.489 --> 00:42:40.150
with injuries and yet pretty successfully has

00:42:40.150 --> 00:42:43.329
been impressive. For me, I think these next two

00:42:43.329 --> 00:42:45.369
matches are very pivotal in our season, though,

00:42:45.429 --> 00:42:46.769
because I think Houston is going to be a team

00:42:46.769 --> 00:42:49.150
to reckon with. And so if we can go get at least

00:42:49.150 --> 00:42:52.010
a point on the road at Houston, that'll say a

00:42:52.010 --> 00:42:55.190
lot about this team. And then traveling to T

00:42:55.190 --> 00:42:57.250
-Grace, you know, you've got to keep it close

00:42:57.250 --> 00:42:59.909
so that you can come home and win it. Yeah, that

00:42:59.909 --> 00:43:04.070
Tigris game I'm circling. I think Houston will

00:43:04.070 --> 00:43:08.090
put a good performance against Houston. We saw

00:43:08.090 --> 00:43:11.150
that they're a feisty team. They got a bit of

00:43:11.150 --> 00:43:14.510
bite. Dallas really gave them a chance to get

00:43:14.510 --> 00:43:18.210
back into the game. And the Texas Derby, I was

00:43:18.210 --> 00:43:22.190
watching that game. It's a 5 .30 Seattle start,

00:43:22.349 --> 00:43:28.400
which means 7 .30 Texas time. So, I mean, it

00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.079
may be humid, but it's not going to be terribly

00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:33.920
hot, I would imagine. I'm going to look right

00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:38.059
now. Yeah, Houston striker Guillermo, he has

00:43:38.059 --> 00:43:43.480
been, you know, off to a hot start. So, it's

00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.179
interesting if we're going to see, you know,

00:43:45.219 --> 00:43:50.420
Regan Tino or Regan Alex or Tino and Alex in

00:43:50.420 --> 00:43:55.539
the back line. So, at game time, it will be...

00:43:58.210 --> 00:44:06.130
71 degrees with rain. And a lot of humidity.

00:44:06.949 --> 00:44:10.349
90 % humidity. It's about to be a muggy game.

00:44:11.469 --> 00:44:12.989
It's going to be a slog. And that's something

00:44:12.989 --> 00:44:15.550
that I think makes it hard. The Sounders have

00:44:15.550 --> 00:44:17.909
always had a slog there because of the humidity.

00:44:18.050 --> 00:44:20.929
But the fact that the game is at the time it

00:44:20.929 --> 00:44:24.480
is, maybe that's good. You know, we've seen that

00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.039
the Sounders have had success, you know, absorbing

00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:31.980
pressure and playing off the counter. Yeah. Which

00:44:31.980 --> 00:44:35.280
is interesting considering possession team, yet

00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:38.360
our goals keep coming off of the counter. Transition

00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:41.679
moments, yeah. But when you got guys like Rothrock

00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.760
making runs in behind, and I think Jordan's going

00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.639
to make another appearance this game, you know,

00:44:46.659 --> 00:44:49.119
get some more minutes. Maybe he starts, I'm not

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.909
sure. Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any

00:44:52.909 --> 00:44:56.110
reason to rotate. Schmetzer said, you know, there's

00:44:56.110 --> 00:44:59.510
four days between matches, and then they took

00:44:59.510 --> 00:45:01.989
off that next match. The Salt Lake game has been

00:45:01.989 --> 00:45:04.429
moved. So you have a full week before the one

00:45:04.429 --> 00:45:07.030
after that. So you're not as worried about two

00:45:07.030 --> 00:45:08.889
games in a week in that situation. Yeah, and

00:45:08.889 --> 00:45:10.449
I think Schmetzer said they're going to stay

00:45:10.449 --> 00:45:12.449
down in Texas, then go to travel to Montreal.

00:45:12.469 --> 00:45:14.409
So they're not even going to travel back to Seattle.

00:45:15.670 --> 00:45:19.659
That's huge. They're not going to have, you know,

00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:24.880
all that jet lag. So it's shorter travel distance

00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:29.719
from Houston to Monterey. Yeah. Because the one

00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.460
thing about playing in that stadium, especially

00:45:31.460 --> 00:45:35.380
in the altitude, is that those fans, you know,

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:39.000
they show up and they show out. And it's going

00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:40.780
to be a hostile environment. But we've seen it

00:45:40.780 --> 00:45:42.840
before that, you know, Seattle's been able to

00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:48.409
come out of Mexico, you know. If we come out

00:45:48.409 --> 00:45:51.389
with a 0 -0, that's a win in my book. Oh, yeah.

00:45:51.670 --> 00:45:54.349
I mean, even a 1 -0 loss. I mean, I'd rather

00:45:54.349 --> 00:45:57.289
lose 2 -1, to be honest. But even a one -goal

00:45:57.289 --> 00:46:00.929
loss, I think, could be very good. It's only

00:46:00.929 --> 00:46:05.429
an hour and a half flight. Yeah. I would like

00:46:05.429 --> 00:46:08.730
to see us use some dark arts, win a penalty,

00:46:08.889 --> 00:46:14.050
get us that away goal. Yeah. That'd be great.

00:46:14.309 --> 00:46:18.380
And, I mean, we talked about it last. But tell

00:46:18.380 --> 00:46:21.280
me again what you've seen out of that team and

00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.940
why maybe we shouldn't be as scared as some of

00:46:25.940 --> 00:46:29.699
us are feeling. About Tigres? Yeah. I think that

00:46:29.699 --> 00:46:32.920
it's like what we see with a lot of League MX

00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:34.820
teams is that they struggle to play in the U

00:46:34.820 --> 00:46:39.840
.S. Because, you know, they're used to playing

00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.599
in the altitude. They're used to playing, you

00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.889
know, with the fans cheering them on. But when

00:46:45.889 --> 00:46:48.650
they got to come play, you know, in the U .S.,

00:46:48.650 --> 00:46:52.429
they don't have that same success. Which is why

00:46:52.429 --> 00:46:56.929
you see a lot of, you know, Liga MX teams, like,

00:46:57.010 --> 00:46:59.829
advance in Champions League is because they have

00:46:59.829 --> 00:47:03.809
the second leg at home. Which is why I think

00:47:03.809 --> 00:47:06.809
it's very critical and crucial that we have the

00:47:06.809 --> 00:47:09.230
second leg be in Seattle because that gives us

00:47:09.230 --> 00:47:13.780
the advantage. But what makes you as a Sounders

00:47:13.780 --> 00:47:15.320
fan feel like we're not going to go down and

00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.199
be Cincinnati? Oh, because we're more consistent

00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:22.500
than Cincinnati. I watched that game, and I would

00:47:22.500 --> 00:47:27.760
see there was no urgency for them to get another

00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:32.659
goal. You know, Tigres did. They had their way

00:47:32.659 --> 00:47:35.420
against Cincinnati the full 90 minutes. And then

00:47:35.420 --> 00:47:37.360
you have Pat Newton subbing off their attacking

00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.059
players to add another defender. And guess what?

00:47:40.139 --> 00:47:42.659
They get scored on. And now when they need a

00:47:42.659 --> 00:47:44.960
goal, they have no person to go out there and

00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:50.699
get a goal. Yeah. And I think that, you know,

00:47:50.739 --> 00:47:53.099
Brian is going to set up the team to be, you

00:47:53.099 --> 00:47:56.019
know, very defensively locked in and strong,

00:47:56.219 --> 00:47:58.519
but we're going to be able to get a goal off

00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:00.440
the counter, which we've seen that we can do.

00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:07.059
That's awesome. I hope so. I hope so. Maybe we'll

00:48:07.059 --> 00:48:08.719
record before then. We'll see. It's midweek.

00:48:09.460 --> 00:48:14.000
Maybe after. After that first leg. Give me predictions

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.980
for the Houston match followed by the Tigres

00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:24.099
match. Oh, dang. I think against Houston, I think

00:48:24.099 --> 00:48:26.940
we can get a result. I think we get a win. I

00:48:26.940 --> 00:48:30.440
can see us getting a 2 -1 win or a 1 -0. I like

00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.780
it. I trust Thomas' shot. shot stopping ability

00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:36.219
and Houston tends to like, you know, they like

00:48:36.219 --> 00:48:39.000
to shoot a lot, but that doesn't mean they're

00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.820
necessarily, necessarily going to take, you know,

00:48:40.820 --> 00:48:45.659
high XG shots. Yeah. And we seen Thomas, Thomas

00:48:45.659 --> 00:48:47.780
athleticism has made, you know, he's made some

00:48:47.780 --> 00:48:49.260
saves that were, you know, like, we're like,

00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:55.559
Oh snap. And when a few times where. Maybe he

00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.519
made himself big but made a mistake. We saw Tino

00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:02.219
pick up the slack. Yeah. Well, I think we can

00:49:02.219 --> 00:49:04.900
talk about the mistake in Minnesota when he came

00:49:04.900 --> 00:49:09.739
out and he misread the trajectory of the ball.

00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:11.199
Yeah, it bounced differently than I was expecting.

00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:13.519
I do like that he fully committed to coming out

00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.619
and he didn't get stuck in no man's land. Yeah,

00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:18.280
because we see that a lot where you get stuck

00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.829
in no man's land. then that's an easy goal as

00:49:21.829 --> 00:49:23.969
opposed to putting the pressure on that allowed

00:49:23.969 --> 00:49:25.869
Tino to be able to get back. Yeah, because the

00:49:25.869 --> 00:49:28.610
thing is that he rushed out and he didn't get

00:49:28.610 --> 00:49:30.789
the ball, but guess what? That forward felt his

00:49:30.789 --> 00:49:32.989
pressure. You look up and you see, you know,

00:49:33.090 --> 00:49:36.969
six foot, what, four, six foot three, Thomas

00:49:36.969 --> 00:49:38.690
running at you with his mustache and his hair

00:49:38.690 --> 00:49:40.789
flowing. You're just like, yeah, I'm going to

00:49:40.789 --> 00:49:45.860
kick the ball before he takes me out. Yeah. And

00:49:45.860 --> 00:49:49.019
it's like I seen I went to see, you know, a local

00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:52.300
high school game the other last week where a

00:49:52.300 --> 00:49:54.639
center back gave a back pass to the goalie, but

00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.099
he didn't put enough pace on it. And the forward

00:49:57.099 --> 00:49:58.960
just came and chipped it right over because the

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.300
goalie got stuck in no man's land. Yeah, exactly.

00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:08.559
I mean, exactly. So what about Tigres? Give me

00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:12.159
zero zero. Oh, all right. I like it. I love it.

00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.550
I think. I think that's a good place to stop

00:50:16.550 --> 00:50:21.750
for now. Let's go play some video games. Oh,

00:50:21.750 --> 00:50:27.789
yeah. Definitely join the Patreon. It's fun there.

00:50:28.989 --> 00:50:32.929
Where can they find you on the Discord and on

00:50:32.929 --> 00:50:35.269
Instagram? I'm on the Discord and then on Instagram

00:50:35.269 --> 00:50:41.030
at alex__ds509. And then also for... For all

00:50:41.030 --> 00:50:42.750
the people that want to get into Legos, they

00:50:42.750 --> 00:50:47.829
just announced some new Lego sets. They announced

00:50:47.829 --> 00:50:54.449
a USA Lego set, two Messys, an Mbappe, a Vinnie

00:50:54.449 --> 00:50:59.130
Jr., and a Cristiano Ronaldo. Nice. It's fun

00:50:59.130 --> 00:51:04.289
times. I was at Costco today, and they had some

00:51:04.289 --> 00:51:08.630
really crappy official World Cup gear, like very

00:51:08.630 --> 00:51:11.719
poorly made. But it's Costco, so it's probably

00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.860
like $10. Yeah, I mean, it was cheap, but the

00:51:14.860 --> 00:51:20.199
hats were very, very bad. I am looking to get

00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.480
a jersey for the World Cup match. I am attending.

00:51:23.980 --> 00:51:26.820
I think I might just do a Mexico jersey because

00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:31.159
I like that green. Round of 32? Round of 16.

00:51:32.019 --> 00:51:35.380
Round of 16? Oh, yeah, you might have some big

00:51:35.380 --> 00:51:40.320
clubs there. Probably Belgium. Yeah, I don't

00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.940
know. We'll see. We will see. Let's not talk

00:51:42.940 --> 00:51:45.719
about the USA this past weekend. Jesus Christ,

00:51:45.780 --> 00:51:50.559
he got smacked down. All right. James Woolard,

00:51:50.719 --> 00:52:02.460
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