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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say he's cheating! Sounders Scuttlebutt.

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Episode 151 Malibu Rum. Just noticed that we

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didn't get to do episode 50. The Ultras took

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it. That's kind of a big deal but congratulations

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guys. Started off with an expletive there. Explicit.

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Explicit. Okay, well, this is a more positive

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episode between you and me. Nicholas Cameron

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is out on the IL nursing his knee injury. Or

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I guess knee aggregation. He's fine. But we did

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beat St. Louis. 1 -0. We're recording just two

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days after on Monday the 9th. It's true. It's

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true. So, yay. Positive episode. Let's go. Let's

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do it. You know, I am going to have to take one

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quick... glide two feet to the left and grab

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a can. I will be getting us ready for our beverage.

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Okay. You take a glide. I myself will grab mine.

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Thank you for your patience. No patience needed.

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I edited the gap. Oh, look at you. That's probably

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a wise decision. Professional. Shall we? Go ahead.

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You crack yours first. An ode to Cameron there

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with your liquid death? Doing a liquid death

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root beer wrap. It's the only carbonated beverage

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in my fridge right there. I am recording from

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work today. I'm recording from home, so here

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we go. Whoa. Lovely. Someone came prepared. Yeah.

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This is Mike Hess Brewing here locally in San

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Diego. Hop Cloud Hazy IPA. How is it? It's okay.

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Fair enough. Seven. Fair enough. Okay. Sorry,

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Mike. Sorry, Mike. All right. Let's get to it.

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Let's get some scuttlebutt. Do you have the Discord

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pulled up? Does anyone know we're recording today?

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Did we do any of that? Yeah, I did post up in

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Discord, but it was fairly late, so I don't know

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if anyone has a specific mailbag question. But,

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you know, let's talk about some stuff that's

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been going on around the league. First and foremost,

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congratulations to Kalani Kosarienzi for being

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one of the team of the match day. So congratulations

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to him. And his first MLS goal, right? No, he

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scored. He scored a few times. Really? Yeah,

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I remember last year against LAFC coming off

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the bench and Manning, you know, out -muscling

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with LAFC or LA Galaxy, out -muscling the defender,

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making him look like a child. It was pretty nice.

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No, Kalani's had a few. My bad. But, yeah, so

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Kalani's been a nice spot of offense from that

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defensive position. So that's been great. But

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holy cow, we got some interesting scuttlebutt.

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First off, if you look on Major League Soccer's

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homepage, you will find no news about this anywhere

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on that page. Because they have it up, right?

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But if you go to The Athletic, you're going to

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see a pretty big headline. And it's a big deal,

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big news, and shocking that it's not available

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on the MLS website. Two MLS players banned for

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life. for gambling on games including their own

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oh so this came out the allegations came out

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last year uh but it's gonna be derek jones who

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was playing with the columbus crew and yahya

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boa who was uh with lafc and previously with

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columbus uh with jones so in the fall they were

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placed on administrative leave And then I'm going

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to read some highlights for you. Now, first off,

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is any of this news to you? It's news to me,

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but so is their names. Okay, fair enough, fair

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enough. So MLS received some suspicious betting

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alerts, and they found that they had done extensive

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gambling on soccer, including their own teams

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in the 2024 and 2025 seasons. In one instance,

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both players bet on. derrick jones to receive

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a yellow card during uh during a game and he

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sure did in the 35th minute for a foul uh and

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so they uh determined that players likely shared

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confidential information with other betters about

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their intent to draw yellow and so uh yeah big

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deal um how do you feel about this i mean obviously

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What a waste of your career. Yeah, I mean, I

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think Jones was making $600K, and Yeboah was

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making about $400K, and gone. And, I mean, yeah,

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you're banned from MLS. But, I mean, no league

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of any sport wants to have someone in their clubhouse

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and on their team who does that, right? Especially

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clearly, it's not like you're betting a different

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sport, let alone your own team. I think that's

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the worst part of it. I get if a baseball player

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is betting on European soccer. Let's take Pete

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Rose as an example. Betting on his own team,

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but always to win. Do you draw the line there?

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I mean, no. That's unethical. I don't think you

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allow a gray area for the betting. There shouldn't

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be a conversation. Just draw a line. You don't

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bet. You've been given the privilege to play

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a game for your career. Your profession is playing

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a game. You get to have fun. This is your dream.

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Live your dream and let the rest of us bet. It's

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just stupid. Do I think it's the dirtiest thing?

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No, it's greedy. Well, it opens the door to a

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lot of issues, especially if you go into gambling

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debt and then all of a sudden, oh, well, now

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we need you to take a yellow to guarantee us

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some money. So the integrity of the game is of

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the utmost importance, and I do believe in that.

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But I also think you... have to have that ingrained

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into you are a professional athlete you cannot

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gamble on sports you just you just can't and

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i think i think gambling in general the issue

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is not so much oh what's okay if he's gambling

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on this or that it's not mls but the problem

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becomes that they can open themselves up to being

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susceptible to um to influence if they go into

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gambling debt. I think that's the big concern

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there. Yeah. It's weird to me that MLS doesn't

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have this. I clicked more on their news page.

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It's not next. There's nothing. No mention of

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this. Why do you think that is? I mean, I feel

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like this is something like lesson learned, right,

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guys? Like, look at these guys. Don't be them.

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Like, we're not fucking around. Exactly. Yeah.

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I don't know. I don't know. It's a good question.

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When did the news break on athletic? Oh, not

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that. They would be the first people to know.

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MLS clearly knows. Yeah. I mean, it broke today.

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But then again, you know, MLS. is you know sponsored

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with draft kings or bet 360 so those kind of

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bets though like aren't those like what do you

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call them i don't i don't gamble but those kind

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of like not the normal parlay not the normal

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over unders the ones that the weird ones a yellow

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card before the 40th 45th minute yeah those poly

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bets or something i think that kind of stuff

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just is it's just really susceptible to corruption

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But it sounds like because this is similar to

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the NBA one that happened where they found suspicious

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patterns. And yeah, if all of a sudden no one

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ever gets... Are you talking about the refs from

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like 20 years ago? No, no, no. Just this last

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year, I think a Toronto Raptor player got banned

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for life for betting on NBA games. But yeah,

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so I mean... Though the point is that when you

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have these prop bets, and all of a sudden, hey,

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there's a lot of action on this really random

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prop bet, you don't think that's suspicious?

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I mean, you know. It's almost like politicians

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and stocks, right? Oh, huh, yeah. I wonder how

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that goes. Meanwhile, Cameron is somewhere. pulling

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his hair out. All four of them. You're not here.

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We can make fun of you. It's true. So what else

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is there? Any good news? That's a big one. I

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mean, I will say Jorge Mas came out and quoted

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that he's paying Messi 70 to 80 million a year.

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So that's pretty... That's pretty crazy. For

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the layman. Who is Jorge Mas? The owner of Inter

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Miami. Oh, okay. So, yeah. So, paying $70 million,

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$80 million a year across everything. So, that's

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definitely salary. Entire team salary. Understandable.

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Understandable. You know, it's crazy, though.

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But, yeah. And then I think a lot of World Cup

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discourse is up in the news. Have you heard about

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what's going on in New England and Foxborough?

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It's really cute of you to keep asking me if

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I've heard of what's going on. I use our own

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scuttlebutt to find out what's going on in the

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league. All right. Well, let me tell you. Kosarienzi

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has never scored a goal before. He's scored three

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goals and three assists before this year. Okay.

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There we go. I should do a podcast. See. I knew

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you were just riding our coattails. You know,

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how dare you? How dare you? It's that the professional

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editing skills, that's why I'm here. Well, fair

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enough. And explicit? I don't know how explicit

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that is. No, I just meant the voice. So basically,

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so what's going on, the short version is with

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the government shutdown, partial shutdown, and

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Trump being Trump. They have not paid the funding

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that was in the Big Beautiful Bill to provide

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security for the World Cup. The town of Foxborough,

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where Boston's games are being played, is like

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a town of 3 ,000, something like that. The police

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bill to secure the stadium during the funding

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will cost about $8 million. not so much of a

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headline not not a huge shock but you know you

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got to secure it but they were promised that

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that would be covered by by fifa or the big beautiful

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bill and the money's not coming and they're at

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the point where they need to actually put money

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down so foxborough's like no we're not doing

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it and the the board of the town board which

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has maybe three members on it has basically said,

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we are not issuing the necessary permits for

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you to host an event until you give us the money

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to pay for the security. And they had FIFA and

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a member of Robert Kraft's company, the Kraft

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Group, in a room in the most recent town meeting.

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And they're both kind of playing dumb. And it

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was great if you watched a video clip of it.

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It's really great if you're anti... You should

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find the video clip. Yeah, I will have to forward

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it. And I'll put it in the show notes. But yeah,

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so basically right now they said, here's the

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deadline next week. If you don't have the money

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for us, we are not issuing the permits. So...

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It's going to be fun to watch them blink. It's

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some good stuff right there. $7 .8 million gap.

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I'll share with you the Athletic article in the

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chat there. There's a great video clip from the

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town. That's just fantastic. So a story to follow.

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I did have it wrong. I said 3 ,000. Three months

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away. It's an 18 ,000 town, so a little bigger.

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I got to cover up. Still less than 20 ,000 people.

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That's a tiny town. And then the other piece

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of news is that the Seattle World Cup app has

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launched the See and Win, S -E -A and Win app.

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app and that is a way where you can get some

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prizes learn about the seattle area it's uh an

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interesting app it'll have uh some some interesting

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pins if you earn enough points um and then the

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top point getters can get you know in stadium

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prizes uh not really looking forward that but

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the pins are cute so something to keep an eye

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on it's a free app Something to check out for

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those that are so inclined. I'm sure there's

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plenty of people listening that are. I'm bummed.

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I mean, it's beautiful down here in San Diego.

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Obviously, it was the right move for my career

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and my family. And I've said it multiple times

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that this podcast pretty much keeps me rooted

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back in Seattle just to keep in touch, obviously,

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with you guys. Like the Seahawks winning the

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Super Bowl and walking out the door from the

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place where I was watching the game at my boss's

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house, who's from Seattle. And no one gave a

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shit. Like just like people going about their

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day, going about their evening. And I just knew

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after, especially after witnessing the first

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one, what was going on in town. And then the

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World Cup being in Seattle. Like obviously LA

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is, it's close, but it's not. It's not like you

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just go to L .A. And I think the cultural differences

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between San Diego and L .A. too. There is like

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a we don't like L .A. Like a Portland, Seattle

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vibe? Yeah, I guess. I think there's more like

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we're more closely related. Portland and Seattle,

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right? You know, we are. There's almost like

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a sibling rivalry. Like definitely Pacific Northwest

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is its own culture. And then within that is what

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Portland is and what Seattle is. It's like, we're

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the one that went to college. Right. Wow. And

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then it's just the dumb brother. Yeah. Okay.

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That's fair. I'll take it. Having, having a dumb

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brother myself. Yeah. Yeah. Love you, John. LA

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is just the city is totally different. The culture

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is totally different. it's just it's just totally

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different and there is quite a divide when you

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like to drive there like you're going anyway

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so it's that's close it's just it's my point

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is it just kind of sucks it's the year i leave

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is the year we win the super bowl and The Mariners

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almost make it to the World Series. To be able

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to watch those games, ALCS at bars in Seattle

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would have been cool. Obviously, just to be around

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the energy of the World Cup, which is not just

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one day. It's going to be weeks. There's still

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a chance maybe I can come up there, but it's

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not like flights are going to be very cheap.

00:18:33.380 --> 00:18:36.200
Do you think you might make it out for a little

00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:38.240
bit of it? I mean, it's a pipe dream. There would

00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.359
have to be a right scenario. Maybe if a thousand

00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.400
people join our Patreon. Hello. We can do a show

00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:48.680
up there. I can expense it. We are an LLC. I

00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:56.680
could. There we go. What are your thoughts about

00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:02.339
the LA Olympics? If you have not joined the ticket

00:19:02.339 --> 00:19:04.960
lottery for that, it closes, I think, this week.

00:19:05.259 --> 00:19:07.980
So I would recommend joining because there's

00:19:07.980 --> 00:19:10.069
going to be Olympic soccer. And then, of course,

00:19:10.089 --> 00:19:12.410
other events. So you should join just to see

00:19:12.410 --> 00:19:14.930
if you get selected and can have the opportunity

00:19:14.930 --> 00:19:20.230
to pick up tickets. That's a fair point. I generally

00:19:20.230 --> 00:19:23.829
don't even put myself in the... It's the big

00:19:23.829 --> 00:19:26.529
concerts where I'll chase down and get in line

00:19:26.529 --> 00:19:29.049
for pre -sale stuff, but that kind of... Maybe

00:19:29.049 --> 00:19:31.650
I should. Well, the ticket draw, you have to

00:19:31.650 --> 00:19:35.009
sign up by March 18th. Sign up. Sign up. I will.

00:19:35.069 --> 00:19:37.819
Because worst case scenario... I buy tickets,

00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.400
I come down, and we have an excuse to hang out.

00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:44.539
LA Olympics, I'll put it up. See, that's what

00:19:44.539 --> 00:19:46.119
I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

00:19:47.180 --> 00:19:52.079
I'll follow you, Sensei. Yeah, that's what I'm

00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:54.559
talking about. I know you've got to roll in about

00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:58.140
20 or so minutes. Yeah, let's get this up. What

00:19:58.140 --> 00:20:01.920
about our scores? Yeah, yeah. Let me go over

00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.460
that, and we'll take a break. We had a much better

00:20:04.460 --> 00:20:08.460
showing this time around. Previous game against

00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:14.180
Salt Lake, no one had more than one point. This

00:20:14.180 --> 00:20:17.180
time, though, we had someone with four out of

00:20:17.180 --> 00:20:20.759
five points. No one got Kalani Kosarienzi as

00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:24.220
the first goal scorer, understandably. I did.

00:20:24.339 --> 00:20:31.480
Just kidding. But the winner this week is Bernadette

00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:35.299
Biela. Okay. We were just talking about gambling.

00:20:37.069 --> 00:20:40.569
last episode well last non -ultras episode who

00:20:40.569 --> 00:20:44.809
was like the most the one who got the most right

00:20:44.809 --> 00:20:50.829
uh per oh per per game an average yeah it was

00:20:50.829 --> 00:20:53.710
roma it was roma who's your daughter six years

00:20:53.710 --> 00:20:58.289
old and then your wife wins this last week yeah

00:20:58.289 --> 00:21:02.819
okay i'm starting to see a trend yeah that we

00:21:02.819 --> 00:21:05.960
should listen to our the women in our lives okay

00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:10.000
that they're pretty smart i guess so from six

00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.839
to whatever your wife's age is yeah they're all

00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:17.460
smart smart enough that's for sure publicly but

00:21:17.460 --> 00:21:21.680
no um yeah it was uh she did predict the one

00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.740
nothing uh the one nothing game uh but she did

00:21:24.740 --> 00:21:29.920
have osase de rosario as the goal scorer I'm

00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.059
going to keep doing it because as soon as I don't,

00:21:32.059 --> 00:21:33.799
he's going to spoil it. Maybe for him I should

00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:40.299
probably not. Yeah, so why don't we go to break

00:21:40.299 --> 00:21:45.519
and then come back and talk about the game and

00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:49.660
look ahead to some Champions League this week.

00:21:51.460 --> 00:21:53.880
It is Champions League. All right, let's do it.

00:21:54.119 --> 00:22:15.779
All right. Hey, everybody. This is one of your

00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:18.759
hosts, Cameron Collins. Now, I know we said this

00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:21.839
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00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:24.599
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-T -R -E -O -N dot C -O -M. Now back to your

00:23:38.210 --> 00:23:46.549
regularly scheduled programming. Do you watch

00:23:46.549 --> 00:23:50.509
SNL? I do. Do you remember, it was probably like

00:23:50.509 --> 00:23:56.170
15 years ago, Ben Affleck, as a radio host. It

00:23:56.170 --> 00:24:01.769
was a sketch. Was this Ben Affleck? It was Ben

00:24:01.769 --> 00:24:05.349
Affleck, and he was hosting, and he did it a

00:24:05.349 --> 00:24:08.069
few other times, but I forget the, I get the

00:24:08.069 --> 00:24:10.490
name of the sketch and really who's in it, but.

00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.039
He did a really good job about being that kind

00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.039
of shock jock radio host. And it was always like,

00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:19.920
and we're back. Man in the box, get back in the

00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:24.160
box. Like that. Some gadgety little thing. Anyway,

00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:30.859
I'm stupid. Yeah. I hate that too. So yeah, it's

00:24:30.859 --> 00:24:35.059
Champions Week. We did just play a game. And

00:24:35.059 --> 00:24:38.220
then we'll have a game. Probably. We're not recording

00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:40.539
until after the Vancouver Champions League game

00:24:40.539 --> 00:24:44.259
and the San Jose game. So I can't imagine us

00:24:44.259 --> 00:24:46.099
trying to fit that in. Ultras might be recording

00:24:46.099 --> 00:24:49.259
in between then, but they normally record on

00:24:49.259 --> 00:24:52.339
Thursday, I think. Which is 7 p .m. is the game

00:24:52.339 --> 00:24:54.779
against Vancouver on Thursday. That may not happen.

00:24:55.579 --> 00:24:59.700
I don't know if we could fit all of us in one.

00:25:00.099 --> 00:25:02.279
We've never done that. Why not? But I don't know

00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.720
if we'll have to figure it out. That would be

00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.430
a chaos. Do you know the difference between jelly

00:25:07.430 --> 00:25:12.470
and jam? Is this an explicit? Oh, it sure is.

00:25:12.769 --> 00:25:18.829
If you know, you know. And I'm not hinting. I

00:25:18.829 --> 00:25:21.670
am just asking. You need jelly to jam it in?

00:25:24.009 --> 00:25:26.009
Getting there? Okay. We're going to move on.

00:25:26.650 --> 00:25:31.089
So, lineup comes out. St. Louis. You're thinking,

00:25:31.150 --> 00:25:35.920
okay, no Rothrock. Interesting. And why was that

00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:39.539
again? Injury? The lineup against St. Louis.

00:25:39.579 --> 00:25:43.220
Oh, he got his foot stepped on at the end of

00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:46.660
the Salt Lake game. That's why he needs Lego

00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:50.279
brick boots like me. Because no one wants to

00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.079
step on Lego. He did have the baller shoes. That

00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:55.599
is true. Does everyone still talk about him?

00:25:55.980 --> 00:26:03.799
Just say yes. Oh, of course. People are unconsolable.

00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:07.839
without you there. I bet. It's really tough.

00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.400
I bet. It's really tough. I mean, come back.

00:26:10.900 --> 00:26:13.440
Baby, please come home. Come back. Come back

00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.400
to me. Depeche Mode. I miss you. I miss you so

00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:17.920
much. Okay, this is getting weird. I promise.

00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.359
I didn't know it was your sister. I didn't know.

00:26:22.059 --> 00:26:25.859
I didn't know. Please forgive me. Okay. Speaking

00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:28.880
of our sister, Vancouver. No, wait. We're talking

00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:30.960
St. Louis. No, no, no. We're going to talk a

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.099
little St. Louis here. Do a little recap there,

00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:37.099
and obviously a few minutes into the game, Yamar

00:26:37.099 --> 00:26:39.819
comes out with an injury, which you never want

00:26:39.819 --> 00:26:45.500
to see. But again, I mean, we've got good depth,

00:26:45.579 --> 00:26:48.440
but can we please stop testing that theory and

00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.400
testing that statement? Because we're currently

00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.380
starting with Brunel up top on the right wing.

00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:59.660
That's our, what, fourth choice, maybe? Right

00:26:59.660 --> 00:27:03.210
back, or right wing? To start a game, yeah, right?

00:27:03.309 --> 00:27:06.410
Because I don't think they start Georgie. Well,

00:27:06.430 --> 00:27:08.190
yeah, because I think when Georgie is coming

00:27:08.190 --> 00:27:11.130
off of injury, Areola is probably not a 90 -minute

00:27:11.130 --> 00:27:16.170
fit. Rothrock's injured. De La Vega is injured.

00:27:17.789 --> 00:27:20.369
Jordan, for that matter. I don't think we'd put

00:27:20.369 --> 00:27:22.170
him on the right, but he's definitely played

00:27:22.170 --> 00:27:25.329
there and he'd be an option there. Yeah, so already

00:27:25.329 --> 00:27:30.589
we're... having these injury issues. So hopefully

00:27:30.589 --> 00:27:33.089
this will not be a portent of what's going to

00:27:33.089 --> 00:27:35.410
come this season. As long as you substitute correctly.

00:27:36.670 --> 00:27:41.529
Well, I mean, I like the move taking Amar out

00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:46.130
and putting in Kosirienzi. Well, that moves Alex

00:27:46.130 --> 00:27:49.589
Roldan back over to center back, which, you know,

00:27:49.589 --> 00:27:52.250
hasn't been an experiment since last season that

00:27:52.250 --> 00:27:55.710
hasn't really gone wrong when we needed it to

00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:58.970
happen. He's been very serviceable. I mean, I

00:27:58.970 --> 00:28:01.210
think he even was center back against Paris Saint

00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.490
-Germain at one point during the Club World Cup.

00:28:04.490 --> 00:28:11.670
So that's great. But that first goal, the only

00:28:11.670 --> 00:28:15.430
goal, talk me through, what did you see on the

00:28:15.430 --> 00:28:22.289
goal? A lot of composure from a young player.

00:28:23.329 --> 00:28:25.529
Patience on the ball and not just immediately?

00:28:25.609 --> 00:28:28.920
That was not. An easy ball that came with some

00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:32.980
mustard on it. Popped up on him. He's getting

00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:37.000
closed in on and slots it right where it needed

00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:42.200
to go. It was just clean, clear, and under control.

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:47.700
I was very impressed by it. That is something

00:28:47.700 --> 00:28:53.680
you'd expect a starter to put away. And I honestly,

00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:58.299
I mean, I don't know. I was thinking a blowout.

00:28:58.339 --> 00:29:01.259
I put it in 4 -0. I thought we would definitely

00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:02.779
get a shutout against St. Louis. They played

00:29:02.779 --> 00:29:06.619
better than I thought. But that was a kind of

00:29:06.619 --> 00:29:10.900
clean -up. If you got a shot, take it, put it

00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:12.539
on frame, and we're going to get a goal. I thought

00:29:12.539 --> 00:29:14.599
we would get multiple of them. So when that happened,

00:29:14.740 --> 00:29:18.359
I was like, here we go. Yeah, so I want to talk

00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.079
a little bit about the lead -up to that goal.

00:29:20.420 --> 00:29:25.309
Okay. So leading into that goal, Rusnak... does

00:29:25.309 --> 00:29:27.829
a really nice one -two situation, not even a

00:29:27.829 --> 00:29:30.970
one -two. He gives this pass to Osase at the

00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:34.230
top of the box, who just deflects it off his

00:29:34.230 --> 00:29:38.029
foot towards Jesus into space, which was really

00:29:38.029 --> 00:29:40.910
nice in itself, but it came in a little hot,

00:29:41.029 --> 00:29:44.049
so Jesus had to run for it. He gets it. He keeps

00:29:44.049 --> 00:29:47.490
it in, kind of like Rothrock last week. The difference

00:29:47.490 --> 00:29:52.680
is St. Louis corrals it, and when he's got the

00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.299
ball on his foot knew who's pressing up forcing

00:29:56.299 --> 00:29:58.519
the st louis player into this freezing moment

00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.799
he just kind of lays it off to his guy not even

00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.119
realizing jesus is running behind him and just

00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.960
picks the pocket beautifully so i just thought

00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.200
it was a really good uh press by the sounders

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.819
there uh let's not kid ourselves it was really

00:30:13.819 --> 00:30:18.200
bad play out of the back for st louis but you

00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.220
got to put the pressure to make that happen and

00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:24.069
so i think I think both Nuhu and Jesus did really

00:30:24.069 --> 00:30:27.470
good work there to make that happen. And then,

00:30:27.509 --> 00:30:32.369
like you said, once Jesus passes that ball with

00:30:32.369 --> 00:30:35.890
Mustard to Kalani, I mean, it was one of those

00:30:35.890 --> 00:30:39.349
passes that just before it came, it kind of skipped

00:30:39.349 --> 00:30:42.329
off the turf, skipped off the grass, and came

00:30:42.329 --> 00:30:44.609
up a little hotter than he expected. And he just

00:30:44.609 --> 00:30:49.109
stayed with it. Just really well done. Just,

00:30:49.109 --> 00:30:53.450
just, just. Nice goal from Kalani. Yeah, and

00:30:53.450 --> 00:30:56.910
you have all the... Immediately, you're in the

00:30:56.910 --> 00:30:58.349
middle of the box. Well, not in the middle. You

00:30:58.349 --> 00:30:59.490
know what I mean, though. You're in the box.

00:30:59.990 --> 00:31:02.410
Yeah. You have everyone around you closing in

00:31:02.410 --> 00:31:04.789
on you to slide, get in front of you, like try

00:31:04.789 --> 00:31:07.670
to block that shot. And just to just pretend

00:31:07.670 --> 00:31:09.789
they're not there for the ball where it's supposed

00:31:09.789 --> 00:31:12.349
to be. If it gets deflected, it gets deflected.

00:31:12.349 --> 00:31:13.950
You're not going to have it knuckle from there

00:31:13.950 --> 00:31:17.150
or move around anybody. Just focus. And I thought

00:31:17.150 --> 00:31:19.470
that was just a lot of great composure. You know,

00:31:19.470 --> 00:31:23.559
and for... I thought that more so than I do now,

00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:25.440
considering he has three goals and three assists

00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:29.960
in 1 ,400 minutes. But I was like, man, for a

00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.660
kid who's only played 80 minutes. He's fearless.

00:31:33.940 --> 00:31:39.859
He's fearless against grown men where last year,

00:31:39.940 --> 00:31:43.220
re -watch his first goal that he ever scored

00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:47.420
against LA and watch the way he muscles around

00:31:47.420 --> 00:31:53.640
the guy. Because same thing here. where he doesn't

00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.420
get phased. He basically does that little faint

00:31:57.420 --> 00:32:01.019
thing where he just kind of does a little sidestep

00:32:01.019 --> 00:32:03.259
to himself, making the St. Louis defender look

00:32:03.259 --> 00:32:07.140
extremely silly. Yeah, nice. And then taking

00:32:07.140 --> 00:32:09.819
the shot. So it's just really nice to see him

00:32:09.819 --> 00:32:14.799
so composed in tight space. Just really great.

00:32:14.859 --> 00:32:17.380
And then, of course, we get a return of the oba

00:32:17.380 --> 00:32:22.210
flip. Gotta love that. yeah there's a lot of

00:32:22.210 --> 00:32:24.430
times where they land kind of at a you know leaning

00:32:24.430 --> 00:32:27.190
forward and almost like a 45 degree angle and

00:32:27.190 --> 00:32:30.670
i'm like oh you're shaking he landed just perfect

00:32:30.670 --> 00:32:36.869
good job 10 out of 10 so and he did the uh i

00:32:36.869 --> 00:32:39.809
remember it was u .s open cup at starfire yes

00:32:39.809 --> 00:32:43.109
yeah that was a very was that his first like

00:32:44.299 --> 00:32:46.579
With the Sounders? Yeah, because he wasn't even

00:32:46.579 --> 00:32:50.059
on the team. He was a defiance call -up for that

00:32:50.059 --> 00:32:51.980
game. Yeah, I remember that. He was a hardship

00:32:51.980 --> 00:32:59.819
call -up. So, yeah. So KKR is definitely embodying

00:32:59.819 --> 00:33:05.940
that next man up attitude. Love to see it. Going

00:33:05.940 --> 00:33:07.839
the rest of the way, though, what I think I'm

00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.339
proud about with this game is this was... a game

00:33:13.339 --> 00:33:16.299
where the Sounders didn't necessarily park the

00:33:16.299 --> 00:33:20.720
bus, but I think they did a really good job of

00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:25.359
committing to defending and being okay without

00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.180
the ball. Yeah. If that makes sense, especially

00:33:30.180 --> 00:33:33.240
in that second half once they got that lead.

00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:37.460
Well, so the AMR was pretty early halfway through

00:33:37.460 --> 00:33:40.220
the first half. I think a lot of that was, you

00:33:40.220 --> 00:33:43.980
know, we have to focus on support on the defense

00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:47.279
versus, oh, what are you showing me? It slid

00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.720
over there on your phone. Oh, yeah. So just,

00:33:49.819 --> 00:33:52.559
you know how I am about my facts. And then after

00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.480
the goal here, it's just all red. All red. Just

00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.640
all red. So we just said, we don't think you

00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.619
can score tonight. Yeah. And we're not going

00:34:02.619 --> 00:34:07.640
to let you. And I think Mazovsky for De Rosario.

00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:13.440
Mazovsky's a more, not cerebral, no knock on

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.460
De Rosario, but he's been around. He knows how

00:34:16.460 --> 00:34:20.099
to play his role. He, as an offensive player,

00:34:20.219 --> 00:34:23.400
is going to be probably more defensive, at least

00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:30.199
in support. Yeah. Yeah, it just, it clearly wasn't,

00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:31.599
if we're going to get a goal, it's just going

00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:33.159
to happen, but we're not going to be pushing

00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.219
for it. We're going to make sure we don't give

00:34:35.219 --> 00:34:39.179
up one. You mean a second goal? Yes, of course.

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.719
We're not going to push for a second goal. We're

00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.679
going to prevent you from getting a goal. Yeah.

00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:47.900
And to that point, we scored in the 47th minute.

00:34:48.019 --> 00:34:50.019
So it's the beginning of the second half. And

00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:52.860
I'm going to read the second half stats. The

00:34:52.860 --> 00:34:54.679
second half stat line. Are you ready for this?

00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.159
So basically, we've already established that

00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.159
St. Louis was just given the ball and dared to

00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:07.480
do something. Their XG was a .3. They had 71%.

00:35:07.929 --> 00:35:11.309
percent possession but they only gathered four

00:35:11.309 --> 00:35:17.090
shots two of them on target no big chances seven

00:35:17.090 --> 00:35:20.329
fouls committed to our two fouls committed so

00:35:20.329 --> 00:35:23.650
not only did we play great defensively we played

00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:28.590
clean so we just were frustrating them left and

00:35:28.590 --> 00:35:32.670
right we gave them seven corners but we're like

00:35:32.670 --> 00:35:36.480
we got we got the numbers we're comfortable And

00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.400
you're not going to get anything on us. We did

00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.780
have three yellow cards. I don't remember them

00:35:41.780 --> 00:35:47.420
all exactly, but, I mean, three's average for

00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:50.579
any club, right? They only had one. Yeah, but

00:35:50.579 --> 00:35:57.099
that's also a big part of what we talked about

00:35:57.099 --> 00:36:02.119
last year after the Club World Cup was one of

00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.800
the biggest lessons that we learned in the Club

00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.719
World Cup. was seeing how the Atletico Madrid's,

00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:12.480
the Paris Saint -Germain's of the world know

00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:18.539
when to commit a foul. And the art of, and not

00:36:18.539 --> 00:36:23.159
even in a cynical manner, just in a, we are going

00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.360
to be tactical here and recognize this is a great

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.340
time for us to just shut down the opportunity

00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:35.800
that's coming. Yeah, like any moment. Hey, you

00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.260
mentioned their, as I reach for a beer, pardon

00:36:38.260 --> 00:36:47.599
me, their shots. Yeah. Andrew Thomas. Yeah. They

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.219
had a really good game. I'm not surprised, but

00:36:51.219 --> 00:36:54.639
I just, I think we, especially in the era of

00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:01.019
post -Fry, that sounds bad, but, you know, he's

00:37:01.019 --> 00:37:04.420
still on the team. but we know he's not started

00:37:04.420 --> 00:37:11.239
Andrew Thomas I think we need to give I'm sure

00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.619
some people out there that still think maybe

00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:17.099
Fry should have had or still want to live in

00:37:17.099 --> 00:37:22.300
the Fry era I am of the mindset that we have

00:37:22.300 --> 00:37:36.360
we have we are spoiled I don't know how many

00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.400
more points over the course of the season Andrew

00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:46.039
Thomas might give us over Stephen Fry. But I

00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:55.639
know that I don't know if it's enough to make

00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.139
it obvious. Like, I think... And we'll never

00:38:00.139 --> 00:38:03.099
know the answer to this, obviously. But I think

00:38:03.099 --> 00:38:05.340
that the difference between putting Fry in goal

00:38:05.340 --> 00:38:15.579
and putting Thomas in goal is maybe five points

00:38:15.579 --> 00:38:19.900
either direction over the course of a season.

00:38:20.420 --> 00:38:28.179
I think Andrew Thomas being good... and deserving

00:38:28.179 --> 00:38:32.480
of a starting role is not the same as Stephen

00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.579
Fry is deserving of being a second string. Those

00:38:36.579 --> 00:38:39.699
are not the same statements. Like, Stephen Fry

00:38:39.699 --> 00:38:45.519
could easily be starting for this team, but Andrew

00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:51.199
Thomas is the future, and at some point you need

00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:57.059
to decide, do you give him the reins? Because

00:38:57.059 --> 00:39:01.760
if you don't, you risk potentially losing him

00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.420
long term. I have to admit something. I had my

00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:10.099
mic on a different setting. Did you hear me burp?

00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.880
I plead the fifth. God damn it. Sorry, everybody.

00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:23.809
I was like, strategically turn it down. It was

00:39:23.809 --> 00:39:28.289
not bad. But, yeah, so I mean, what do you think

00:39:28.289 --> 00:39:31.309
about that? Do you think that that makes sense?

00:39:33.090 --> 00:39:37.750
It does. I mean, there was going to be this transition.

00:39:38.869 --> 00:39:45.690
It had to happen. And I think giving him the

00:39:45.690 --> 00:39:48.269
League's Cup last year and the performance that

00:39:48.269 --> 00:39:52.090
he had and winning it, it's like, okay. Job is

00:39:52.090 --> 00:39:55.889
won. And I think Schmetzer and co. did it the

00:39:55.889 --> 00:39:59.289
right way. That was the interview. Let Steph

00:39:59.289 --> 00:40:04.389
finish the regular season. And, you know, maybe

00:40:04.389 --> 00:40:06.289
there's a conversation if he has a phenomenal

00:40:06.289 --> 00:40:08.670
playoffs and we win the MLS Cup, right? It's

00:40:08.670 --> 00:40:11.730
like, oh, well, shit. Now it's maybe, maybe.

00:40:13.409 --> 00:40:19.010
But Steph's here. He knows, he knows, he knows.

00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:20.800
He knows his role. Like I said, he knows the

00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:25.539
assignment. And I expect to have him be the Andrew

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:27.940
Thomas of last year, getting League's Cup. Well,

00:40:27.980 --> 00:40:30.079
they already said that, right? Yeah, no, I mean,

00:40:30.099 --> 00:40:31.719
that's just the way the Sounders have always

00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.239
operated, where the second string gets... And

00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.940
now we have... Steph's still got it. It's just,

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.960
he's probably... He's not going to be as springy.

00:40:42.380 --> 00:40:46.019
He's going to get up slower than... And I think

00:40:46.019 --> 00:40:50.090
there's... You look at Andrew Thomas, you don't

00:40:50.090 --> 00:40:53.030
want to run into the guy. That guy, he's stacked.

00:40:54.789 --> 00:41:00.989
He's stacked. White Russian. Because he's Russian,

00:41:01.050 --> 00:41:05.469
right? Yes. His family lived in Moscow. Yeah.

00:41:05.869 --> 00:41:08.030
I just wanted to say white Russian. But anyway,

00:41:08.150 --> 00:41:10.389
I think as the season goes on, he's going to

00:41:10.389 --> 00:41:15.010
get even better. You'd expect that. And if he's

00:41:15.010 --> 00:41:18.929
this good now, this is his base. then we're in

00:41:18.929 --> 00:41:23.050
for, I think, another generation or fourth generation

00:41:23.050 --> 00:41:27.030
of top five goalkeeper in the league for a while.

00:41:27.610 --> 00:41:35.550
Yeah, I mean, it definitely gives me cause for

00:41:35.550 --> 00:41:40.269
optimism and excitement. Speaking of excitement,

00:41:40.469 --> 00:41:42.710
Champions, let's get into that game. Let's talk

00:41:42.710 --> 00:41:46.150
a little bit about the game in Vancouver on Thursday.

00:41:47.849 --> 00:41:51.349
CONCACAF Champions Cup you got Vancouver coming

00:41:51.349 --> 00:41:59.349
out of the the previous round They Coming out

00:41:59.349 --> 00:42:06.309
of the previous round against carton his So the

00:42:06.309 --> 00:42:10.409
Costa Rican team So they get out of there. We're

00:42:10.409 --> 00:42:12.570
going to play the first game Thursday in Vancouver

00:42:12.570 --> 00:42:17.309
with the return leg coming next week in Spokane.

00:42:19.030 --> 00:42:21.929
Sold out Spokane Stadium, so that'll be exciting

00:42:21.929 --> 00:42:27.650
for the dry -siders for sure. I don't know what

00:42:27.650 --> 00:42:33.530
to expect. It's going to be a tough draw. Like,

00:42:33.530 --> 00:42:36.559
if you haven't looked at our... If you haven't

00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:41.360
looked at our draw with the Champions League,

00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:47.199
it's not easy. If we advance past Vancouver,

00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.579
we play the winner of Cincinnati and Tigris.

00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:57.980
The other four teams for the potential Final

00:42:57.980 --> 00:43:00.659
Four, the four teams that we would potentially

00:43:00.659 --> 00:43:03.320
play would be Miami, Nashville, Club America,

00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:09.960
or Philly. That'll be interesting. But I think

00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:14.239
it's also doable. I think this is a doable bracket,

00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:21.500
but it is going to be tough. Vancouver is a talented

00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:25.480
team. So what do you expect to see out of this

00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:32.849
game? I guess to me it all depends on... I mean,

00:43:32.849 --> 00:43:35.230
do you think we put our, and I'm sorry if I missed

00:43:35.230 --> 00:43:41.329
it, do we think we put our, quote, finger bunnies,

00:43:41.389 --> 00:43:43.489
air bunnies, air quotes, whatever you want to

00:43:43.489 --> 00:43:47.389
call it, first team against Vancouver? I do.

00:43:47.510 --> 00:43:50.750
I expect, well, keep in mind we have multiple

00:43:50.750 --> 00:43:52.769
players at the wing position that could be first

00:43:52.769 --> 00:43:54.849
team. We have multiple players at the wing position

00:43:54.849 --> 00:44:00.530
we can't play. Yeah, I mean, that's true, but

00:44:00.530 --> 00:44:05.849
I mean, I do think, I think you see... I think

00:44:05.849 --> 00:44:10.769
you see a lot of the same people in this 18 as

00:44:10.769 --> 00:44:13.889
this most recent game. Hopefully with the addition

00:44:13.889 --> 00:44:19.030
of... Hopefully with the addition of Rothrock.

00:44:21.349 --> 00:44:25.590
And maybe Kim Kihee instead of Yamar. Kim Kihee,

00:44:25.650 --> 00:44:29.389
mind you, would not be the starter. I expect

00:44:29.389 --> 00:44:35.510
to see the starter... Maybe. Maybe being Alex

00:44:35.510 --> 00:44:41.510
as a center back starter. Possibly. Because I

00:44:41.510 --> 00:44:45.170
don't think Kim Keehy is 90 minutes fit. What

00:44:45.170 --> 00:44:48.829
about Hawkins? I think he's still injured right

00:44:48.829 --> 00:45:00.329
now. It's a rivalry match. It's a Darby. It's

00:45:00.329 --> 00:45:03.780
either I feel like no matter what lineup you

00:45:03.780 --> 00:45:09.920
put out there, it's going to be a... It's going

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.360
to be a boxing match. It's two quality clubs,

00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:18.940
subs, clubs, coming head -to -head. And, you

00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:22.719
know, I think Mueller just got a brace, right?

00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.980
So he's not off a cliff yet. Yeah, but it was

00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:28.199
against Portland, so, I mean, what is that, Matt?

00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.619
Yeah, well, hey, that's... That's a rivalry match

00:45:31.619 --> 00:45:35.519
too, right? I think it almost doesn't matter

00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.840
who you put out there. Everyone's going to be

00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.840
up for it. And they're going to be exhausted

00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:46.019
when the game is over. And I can't tell you that

00:45:46.019 --> 00:45:50.019
I want us to win, obviously. I can't say who's

00:45:50.019 --> 00:45:53.300
got an advantage in this one. Maybe I would actually

00:45:53.300 --> 00:45:55.179
give it to Vancouver because they're definitely

00:45:55.179 --> 00:45:57.059
hotter than us right now. They're the home team.

00:45:58.019 --> 00:46:01.079
We do have one of the best center backs in the

00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.119
league not available, more than likely, or 100%.

00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.820
I don't know what the latest is, but it looked

00:46:07.820 --> 00:46:09.340
pretty obvious that he's not going to be out

00:46:09.340 --> 00:46:13.840
or available for a week plus. I think it's going

00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.500
to have to take maybe a magical kind of match

00:46:16.500 --> 00:46:19.659
to be a win, and I think you hope for a draw

00:46:19.659 --> 00:46:25.099
here. Yeah, you don't have to win. You don't

00:46:25.099 --> 00:46:29.800
have to win. So, you know, that's definitely

00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:36.519
true. But we'll see. We'll see. They've only

00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.440
given up one goal in league play. Yeah, yeah.

00:46:40.579 --> 00:46:46.800
San Jose's going to have none. We'll see. I think

00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.659
it'll be a good match. I think the San Jose match

00:46:49.659 --> 00:46:52.159
will be an opportunity for someone like Cody

00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.920
Baker to shine. Maybe get his first start in

00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.800
a while. Maybe you can get to see Georgie get

00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:02.400
a start. But then again, it all also depends

00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.380
on what are we looking at numbers -wise. So we'll

00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:09.820
kind of find out how that goes. A couple other

00:47:09.820 --> 00:47:11.739
things I did want to bring up. They did announce

00:47:11.739 --> 00:47:15.599
the League's Cup schedule. And interesting this

00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.500
year that, and I'm really happy about this, because

00:47:18.500 --> 00:47:20.920
as long as the games were always being played

00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.260
in the U .S., it didn't feel legit. We will be

00:47:24.260 --> 00:47:26.760
traveling to Mexico for one of the three stage

00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:31.860
games. So we'll be playing Toluca, which is just

00:47:31.860 --> 00:47:36.280
outside Mexico City. That'll be August 5th. Then

00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:41.059
we'll play Carataro at home. And then Chivas

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:44.559
Guadalajara at home as well. So that'll be a

00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:50.960
fun one, two, three punch. We'll see how that

00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.079
goes. But, yeah, happy to see that we're going

00:47:55.079 --> 00:48:00.940
to play in Mexico for a game. Yeah, that was

00:48:00.940 --> 00:48:04.820
a long time coming. For a legitimate tournament,

00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.679
that needed to happen. I will say this. I'm going

00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.940
to promise you right now. If the Sounders end

00:48:10.940 --> 00:48:14.119
up playing Tijuana in Tijuana, I'm coming down.

00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:18.860
Yeah? I'm coming down, yeah. I'll walk the border

00:48:18.860 --> 00:48:21.190
with you. We'll go Tijuana. I mean, you literally

00:48:21.190 --> 00:48:25.489
can walk across. Yeah. But it's been a little

00:48:25.489 --> 00:48:28.789
weird down here since that cartel shit. I know.

00:48:28.929 --> 00:48:31.889
I know. I know. Which is part of the reason why

00:48:31.889 --> 00:48:35.269
I ended up pivoting from my World Cup dream,

00:48:35.550 --> 00:48:38.070
which was to go to one game in each country.

00:48:38.130 --> 00:48:42.110
That was always my dream, my goal. Oh, Canada.

00:48:43.170 --> 00:48:46.170
Obviously, U .S. and then Mexico. Yeah. I was

00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:48.909
planning to fly to Mexico, drive to Vancouver,

00:48:49.030 --> 00:48:53.389
and go to U .S. here in seattle um but now my

00:48:53.389 --> 00:48:57.449
plans have pivoted i am doing u .s australia

00:48:57.449 --> 00:49:01.369
here in seattle getting on a plane that night

00:49:01.369 --> 00:49:04.969
flying a red eye overnight to toronto because

00:49:04.969 --> 00:49:08.449
the next day after usa australia is germany ivory

00:49:08.449 --> 00:49:11.570
coast and i have tickets for that yeah with uh

00:49:11.570 --> 00:49:15.110
alex davis so so we'll be doing that it's going

00:49:15.110 --> 00:49:17.489
to be a great father's day weekend That sounds

00:49:17.489 --> 00:49:19.769
awesome. Yeah, but it does mean giving up on

00:49:19.769 --> 00:49:22.630
the Mexico. It bums me out because I love going

00:49:22.630 --> 00:49:26.730
to games in Mexico. It's really a blast. Hey,

00:49:26.730 --> 00:49:30.210
you know what? I'm game. If they're playing in

00:49:30.210 --> 00:49:33.869
TJ, come on down. I mean, even if they're not,

00:49:34.050 --> 00:49:36.590
when I do eventually make it down to San Diego

00:49:36.590 --> 00:49:39.510
to come see you, we're going to go to a Sheldon's

00:49:39.510 --> 00:49:45.730
game while we're down there. Sounds good. All

00:49:45.730 --> 00:49:48.789
right, let's wrap it. You got to get going. I

00:49:48.789 --> 00:49:51.570
guess. I don't really want to work, but I guess

00:49:51.570 --> 00:49:54.550
I should. So what are your thoughts? What do

00:49:54.550 --> 00:49:57.210
you think about Thursday's matchup on the road

00:49:57.210 --> 00:50:02.710
against Vancouver, CONCACAF, Champions Cup, round

00:50:02.710 --> 00:50:06.650
of 16? What do you got for round one? I think

00:50:06.650 --> 00:50:12.369
it's a draw. A hard -fought one. And I think

00:50:12.369 --> 00:50:14.940
we'll be happy with that. Because I feel like

00:50:14.940 --> 00:50:17.380
Spokane's going to be one of those matches that

00:50:17.380 --> 00:50:21.500
we remember. I think it's such an interesting

00:50:21.500 --> 00:50:25.119
reason to be with FIFA and the other side of

00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:27.960
the state. It's going to have something to it.

00:50:28.059 --> 00:50:30.300
So I think it's just like, let's get a draw.

00:50:30.659 --> 00:50:34.099
Let's not get injured. It's going to be a heavyweight

00:50:34.099 --> 00:50:39.579
fight. Okay. So you're predicting how many goals

00:50:39.579 --> 00:50:41.739
on that draw? I think 1 -1. Okay, you're going

00:50:41.739 --> 00:50:45.900
to say 1 -1. And by the way, after that game,

00:50:46.099 --> 00:50:50.960
Vancouver stays at home against Minnesota. So

00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.960
they have Thursday, Sunday, Wednesday. And then

00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:59.280
our lineup is going to be a little bit different.

00:50:59.300 --> 00:51:02.679
We're going to go on the road, then Sunday go

00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.480
to San Jose, and then back in Seattle. So at

00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.559
least San Jose is not too terribly far. As far

00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.440
as two road games. It's like a 90 minute flight.

00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.659
Yeah. I mean, as far as these two stretches go,

00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.940
it could be much, much worse. Yeah. And Vancouver

00:51:16.940 --> 00:51:20.659
is basically, you know, backyard. I mean, it's

00:51:20.659 --> 00:51:22.900
going to be closer to get to Vancouver than it

00:51:22.900 --> 00:51:24.699
is to Spokane. I was just going to say that.

00:51:24.739 --> 00:51:26.159
I was like, actually Spokane is further away.

00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.300
I mean, technically it won't be because we'll

00:51:27.300 --> 00:51:29.840
actually drive the bus to Vancouver and they'll

00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:34.489
fly to Spokane, but you get. Yeah. Yeah, I think

00:51:34.489 --> 00:51:37.130
I want to say it's going to be a draw, but I

00:51:37.130 --> 00:51:39.630
honestly think Vancouver is going to come ahead

00:51:39.630 --> 00:51:42.309
on this one. I think Vancouver is probably going

00:51:42.309 --> 00:51:44.929
to get a 2 -1 victory on this one. That sounds

00:51:44.929 --> 00:51:51.210
about right. I think they're a good team. Jesper

00:51:51.210 --> 00:51:56.989
Sorensen is fun. I'm genuinely happy for Vancouver.

00:51:57.650 --> 00:52:02.900
They've been the littlest brother. in this Cascadia

00:52:02.900 --> 00:52:08.440
trio for too long. So it's nice to see them helping

00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.639
us kick the crap out of Portland. So, yeah. But

00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.559
I do think we're coming out, at least my early

00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.119
prediction is that we do come out of this round,

00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:28.559
but that it may go to penalties. Well, we'll

00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.860
see how this week goes. And do you want to talk

00:52:31.860 --> 00:52:33.880
a little bit about, real quick, about a prediction

00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.559
in San Jose? What do you expect to see? I mean,

00:52:36.579 --> 00:52:44.159
that's what, I can't even give a, I can't. I

00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:47.260
do think this game against Vancouver is going

00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:51.380
to be a slog, not a slog fest, but like I said,

00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:55.480
a heavyweight fight. And it's so hard to see

00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:00.130
what the team might be afterwards. And San Jose's

00:53:00.130 --> 00:53:03.889
playing very well. They haven't given up a goal.

00:53:04.090 --> 00:53:06.210
So I think it's going to be tough to come out

00:53:06.210 --> 00:53:11.389
with a draw or a win against Vancouver and then

00:53:11.389 --> 00:53:13.889
expect a draw or a win out of San Jose. I think

00:53:13.889 --> 00:53:19.670
if we get blown out in Vancouver, we win in San

00:53:19.670 --> 00:53:24.570
Jose. Other than that, I'm hoping for a draw

00:53:24.570 --> 00:53:27.599
and a draw. I think it's going to be tough. They're

00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.460
two good teams. Or maybe San Jose's smoking mirrors

00:53:30.460 --> 00:53:34.119
and they just have a... I don't know enough about

00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:35.800
it. I'm just looking at the stats. They haven't

00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:38.539
given up a goal. So that tells me good defense

00:53:38.539 --> 00:53:40.460
and we're not blowing people out of the water

00:53:40.460 --> 00:53:43.860
with our scoring right now. Yeah, but again,

00:53:44.139 --> 00:53:48.619
Kansas City and Atlanta are not two teams that

00:53:48.619 --> 00:53:52.519
you want to be puffing your chest out over. They

00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.360
were two of the three worst teams. Okay, so that's

00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:57.719
who they played. yeah okay so how about this

00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:01.980
one one one draw one nothing win okay well fair

00:54:01.980 --> 00:54:05.179
enough because just just for context uh kansas

00:54:05.179 --> 00:54:09.280
city's uh still has no points or they have one

00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.820
point this season they're oh one and two uh so

00:54:12.820 --> 00:54:15.400
they're not exactly they're not exactly lighting

00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:21.219
it up um Yeah, so just kind of as an FYI there.

00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:25.199
That's fine. St. Louis is 14th in the table,

00:54:25.340 --> 00:54:30.019
and we only got one goal on them. And then Atlanta

00:54:30.019 --> 00:54:33.880
has their own set of problems. They've lost all

00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:38.139
three of their games. They are just imploding.

00:54:38.900 --> 00:54:42.219
And once again, I don't want to be a broken record

00:54:42.219 --> 00:54:45.809
year after year, but... Things like this are

00:54:45.809 --> 00:54:49.050
a perfect example of why just throwing money

00:54:49.050 --> 00:54:52.050
at players does not guarantee success. You've

00:54:52.050 --> 00:54:56.329
got to build correctly because you've got millions

00:54:56.329 --> 00:54:59.989
of dollars tied up in Almarone and La Tella and

00:54:59.989 --> 00:55:06.949
this team is bad. They are just so bad. I'm curious

00:55:06.949 --> 00:55:10.909
what Cameron's thoughts are with Garth. Well,

00:55:11.050 --> 00:55:13.190
keep in mind Garth had to step down because of

00:55:13.190 --> 00:55:16.809
the cancer. What? Okay, wait, you don't remember

00:55:16.809 --> 00:55:22.010
last year? Clearly not. How drunk are you? Okay.

00:55:23.110 --> 00:55:27.369
Last summer, Garth was dealing with cancer and

00:55:27.369 --> 00:55:30.230
had to step down. Oh shit, did not know that.

00:55:30.730 --> 00:55:34.949
And they announced that he will not return to

00:55:34.949 --> 00:55:41.219
Atlanta. Dude, okay. Yeah. so so unfortunately

00:55:41.219 --> 00:55:46.420
um he took a leave of absence in october and

00:55:46.420 --> 00:55:53.559
then um yeah so love garth he is and we've said

00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.980
this multiple times both both cameron and i have

00:55:57.980 --> 00:56:03.199
very positive relationships with garth um and

00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:04.619
just want nothing for the best of him because

00:56:04.619 --> 00:56:10.469
honestly i genuinely believe He is my go -to

00:56:10.469 --> 00:56:15.909
pick for the Don Garber replacement to be the

00:56:15.909 --> 00:56:21.889
next commissioner of the league. I genuinely

00:56:21.889 --> 00:56:27.449
believe he not only has the mindset for that.

00:56:27.570 --> 00:56:35.920
The business acumen. So, yeah. So I was showing

00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:40.059
you a little video of Alex Roldan laughing as

00:56:40.059 --> 00:56:42.719
Garth Lagoway slaps an egg on my head. And then

00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:44.840
it looks like he's almost trying to sniff it

00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.400
like it was something else. No, no. Okay, so

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:51.039
here's the thing. We were playing egg Russian

00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:55.440
roulette. I pick an egg, and he slacks it over.

00:56:55.500 --> 00:56:57.219
It's either hard -boiled and everything's fine,

00:56:57.340 --> 00:57:02.019
or it's broken. the first time and the first

00:57:02.019 --> 00:57:06.119
person to get hit twice is out so what he's saying

00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.260
to me the first time it happened he leans over

00:57:09.260 --> 00:57:12.219
he's like man i i thought that was a hard -boiled

00:57:12.219 --> 00:57:15.179
egg i thought you were safe the second time when

00:57:15.179 --> 00:57:17.539
the video that you saw he's leaning over goes

00:57:17.539 --> 00:57:24.460
i knew you were done that time so um but no garth

00:57:24.460 --> 00:57:28.579
is garth is a great guy um so i just can't believe

00:57:30.190 --> 00:57:33.150
I don't know what they did wrong between Garth

00:57:33.150 --> 00:57:35.349
and Chris Henderson. I don't know if they just

00:57:35.349 --> 00:57:41.409
didn't get the timing right or if they just needed

00:57:41.409 --> 00:57:43.369
more time. It's not a one -man show either. There's

00:57:43.369 --> 00:57:50.210
a team in the front office as well. Yeah. So

00:57:50.210 --> 00:57:53.289
anyways, yeah. So don't read too much into San

00:57:53.289 --> 00:57:58.650
Jose starting off hot. other than it just gives

00:57:58.650 --> 00:58:02.030
them a little bit of confidence. It'll be like

00:58:02.030 --> 00:58:04.750
a St. Louis win then, with that little context.

00:58:04.869 --> 00:58:07.710
I think we'll get the job done, and they'll try

00:58:07.710 --> 00:58:11.429
hard, and we'll come out ahead. I hope so. I

00:58:11.429 --> 00:58:14.929
hope so. I think that game, honestly, I do predict

00:58:14.929 --> 00:58:17.929
that game to be a draw. And I'd like to see,

00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:20.369
and it might be a 0 -0 draw, it might be a 1

00:58:20.369 --> 00:58:22.070
-1 draw. I don't think it's going to be an exciting

00:58:22.070 --> 00:58:25.409
game. I think that's going to be a bit of a slog

00:58:25.409 --> 00:58:30.809
of a game. But I do think that with the earthquakes,

00:58:31.289 --> 00:58:38.030
I think that they're one of those teams that

00:58:38.030 --> 00:58:40.469
can give some people fits this year. So we'll

00:58:40.469 --> 00:58:43.630
see how that goes. All right, well, why don't

00:58:43.630 --> 00:58:48.070
we end there. Where can they find you? If you

00:58:48.070 --> 00:58:50.670
want to drop something on social media, it's

00:58:50.670 --> 00:58:54.530
at Aaron Lingley on Twitter, or really it's here.

00:58:55.420 --> 00:58:57.199
Throw something on the Discord. I'm the Scuttlebutt.

00:58:57.940 --> 00:59:00.739
And I look at that more. Where can they find

00:59:00.739 --> 00:59:04.559
you? Yeah, you can find me on Discord at Nicholas.

00:59:05.579 --> 00:59:11.079
You can also find me on Instagram at Cascades2C.

00:59:12.179 --> 00:59:14.699
I definitely don't really use Twitter anymore.

00:59:14.900 --> 00:59:19.159
I'm kind of on Blue Sky more just as a news collating

00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.380
thing. I don't really post too much. But mostly

00:59:22.380 --> 00:59:27.079
on Discord. Come find me. And obviously here

00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:29.539
on the podcast. Oh, you know what? Let's just

00:59:29.539 --> 00:59:33.239
also recap. We did give away all three of our

00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:35.460
prizes from the end of the year last year. So

00:59:35.460 --> 00:59:39.659
big congratulations to our winners. We had a

00:59:39.659 --> 00:59:45.639
Sounders jersey for Dan the Bastard for getting

00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.170
the most points for the end of the season. We

00:59:48.170 --> 00:59:52.130
had a team sign that Sounders Jersey to Bryce,

00:59:52.250 --> 00:59:57.889
Bryce to Hefe for that. And then the, what do

00:59:57.889 --> 01:00:00.949
you get? Like how do you get it? Oh, he was random.

01:00:01.610 --> 01:00:04.829
Well, oh yeah. Team sign was because of what?

01:00:04.909 --> 01:00:09.079
Yeah. Yeah. Cause I, I wanted to. I really wanted

01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:11.880
our biggest prizes to be able to be eligible

01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.880
for everyone. This way, what I didn't want is

01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:16.980
people to stop playing in the middle of the season

01:00:16.980 --> 01:00:18.739
because they didn't think they had a chance at

01:00:18.739 --> 01:00:21.500
the big prize. That's kind of the mindset that

01:00:21.500 --> 01:00:25.420
I have. Trying, because I want buy -in. I want

01:00:25.420 --> 01:00:27.300
people to be participating, and we already got

01:00:27.300 --> 01:00:29.579
a great start to the season. A lot of people

01:00:29.579 --> 01:00:33.280
participating makes me really happy to see. But

01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:40.519
then JesusM509, I told you in the last episode

01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:44.519
that we were going to get with him and see what

01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:46.659
kind of things he's interested in so I can pick

01:00:46.659 --> 01:00:49.880
an appropriate prize for my stash. And he ended

01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:55.639
up with a Raul Ruiz Diaz training top. A training

01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:59.139
top that he wore during his last season with

01:00:59.139 --> 01:01:03.420
the Souders. Wait, so you've connected with him

01:01:03.420 --> 01:01:06.219
since our last recording? And he's confirmed

01:01:06.219 --> 01:01:11.599
his name is Jesus? Not Jesus? Oh, I'm... No,

01:01:11.780 --> 01:01:14.840
I didn't confirm that. I did. I kind of want

01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:20.579
it to be Jesus now. Jesus M. Jesus M. 509. Thank

01:01:20.579 --> 01:01:22.679
you, Jesus. I'm going with that. I'm going with

01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:24.460
that. We did not, because it was connecting over

01:01:24.460 --> 01:01:27.760
text and not... Jesus married in 509. It could

01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:31.579
be. It could be. Why not? Okay, so Cameron can

01:01:31.579 --> 01:01:34.420
be found at Legal Minded Pump when he's not banned

01:01:34.420 --> 01:01:37.619
from being... Legal Minded Pump. You know, pump

01:01:37.619 --> 01:01:42.780
it up. And then, last but not least, why don't

01:01:42.780 --> 01:01:47.800
we talk with our very own James. Are you going

01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:53.159
to take it away? That was weak. We have to bring

01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.980
it into port first. I don't want to bring it

01:01:55.980 --> 01:01:58.519
into port. I just want to stay here and be safe,

01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:03.230
secure. Ew, take it away, James. You can follow

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01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:46.519
Alexa, who's the best MLS team of all time? The

01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:48.900
Seattle Sounders are both unequivocally and incredibly

01:02:48.900 --> 01:02:51.179
the best MLS team of all time.
