That was my fault. That was my fault. Every time
Cedar speaks, I'm just like, talk to this guy.
It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. That you look
at the roster and you don't see anyone that's
scared. we are here with alex and cedar what's
up gentlemen thank you is a good yo yo how's
it going i know that st louis people get annoyed
by him i i don't like him because our former
finally announced it on that last episode last
name was jerkin yeah yes yeah and so i last year's
the the scuttlebutt you know marshall hartell's
25 yeah sounders pick him but i would say roman
berkey is and that's probably i mean it's like
dan with roman berkey they're always sometimes
a bit of a pessimist probably helped him and
then he went optimist when right an optimist
at one point, and then that helped him too. So
he was just on the whole season. He clearly knows
something we don't. Although, Alex, you were
hot on his heels. You just barely came in second
place. You almost won. I actually had the same
thing on Andrew Thomas as if he could have gotten
to that must be upstairs. Come on, man. Because
what that was was an item that came out of Nicholas's
personal collection. Oh, Fry would have saved
that. No, because his reflexes are even slower
than Andrew's. And that's not in the starters
of the 2023 team. That was the one knock on him
last season. Wow. Raul Ruiz Diaz. Which happens
when you get older. That's why when I play Fortnite
with Alex, he kills so many more people than
I. Because his eyes and his brain are young and
fresh. And I keep accidentally hitting back and
cutting off the broadcast in the middle of the
podcast. So, you know, the anti -coordination
and the way your brain works and how fast you
can react matters. There's been a lot of activity
lately around where I live. Unfortunate. I always
forget to ask. We don't want to dox you when
people show up outside your apartment in San
Francisco. I know. They'll come for me. They'll
come for me if they find out that I'm a Seahawks
fan more than anything. Nobody cares about the
Sounders. And not the same players, right? Nobody
cares about soccer. There was a while where no
one cared about the 49ers. Oh, I forgot to sign.
That's my phone. That's unfortunate. There was
a while where no one cared about the 49ers. They
were all Raiders fans because the Raiders were
the team making it to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but
neither of them are winning championships. No.
Raiders, did they lose? They won with Chucky,
didn't they? No, they lost, and then he left,
and then he won at Tampa, if I remember correctly.
That's right, because they screwed up big time,
and I was dancing around my apartment complex.
I was going outside onto the walkways, dancing
around and taunting all the Raiders fans as a
Seahawks fan. yeah that's right because they
used to be in the same division the the nfl like
division like alignment back and i saw a graphic
it was like you know 1988 Like all the different
divisions. It was kind of early fry time. That's
so weird. And like the Buccaneers were basically
in what is now the NFC North. In the NFC Central
Division or whatever. It was wild. It's something
that you learn with NFC West. I mean, I'm sure
he's managed defense. I'm sure he's knowledgeable
of the Seahawks. It's the beginning of the season.
There's probably a lot going on in his head.
I'm confident with Tommy Butcher as the coach.
in the first year where they switched. Our goalies
will be successful no matter who's... My most...
Not quite half my life, but almost half my life
they were in the AFC West. Sorry to cut you off,
but I think that... Yeah, cut each other off.
Now, speaking of divisions, when MLS moves to
its kind of divisional system in a couple of
seasons, how do we feel about... being in the
same division as RSL every year and having to
play them twice. I know, I know, but that's how
the cookie crumbles, right? Fortunately, we don't
have to play the LA teams twice, right? We don't
have to play San Diego twice, but if we lose
at RSL every single time we play them, that's
guaranteed one loss every year. In practice,
you can do it all the time. Here's the way I
look at it, and I don't know what you think,
Alex, but the teams that are hot now, five, ten
years from now, may not be. You know what I mean?
LASC may be difficult now, but by then... Colorado
could be the best team in the nation and could
be winning. I'll say 1 -1 final score. You don't
even believe what you're saying. But no, excuse
us. I'd like to come out with three points. The
funny thing is I read it for RSL. Then I'll be
happy. Cedar, I don't know if we talked about
this in the last cup final. It used to be at
a specific place and it was RSL versus LA Galaxy.
What do you call that? But I had my entire check
section chanting. Tomorrow starts the Seattle
Super Talk. If you want to come out 7 p .m. at
Seattle Pacific, that'll be tonight. Probably.
It depends on when you listen to this. I'll probably
get this up around midnight. So tonight, if you're
listening right before it came out, it was an
old Lewis moment for this podcast. First game
of the new season, new league, USBL, Superhawks,
and most of the West Coast teams left the TBL.
and now have now so you guys take a moment the
super hawks recently signed john talked about
from the toronto raptors i'm gonna grab something
from the front door and i'll be right our a new
player because he's banned for life from the
nba yeah so alex how'd you uh how i mean play
for us and even though you didn't win like at
the same time gary payton's okay so what's your
process because you didn't really really i mean
you almost won And I feel like, too, you have
to do it every single week. You can't miss any
weeks, but you bring in Jontae Porter. What's
your approach to the challenge every week? How
do you think about it? I usually wait to see
the lineups. Played at Nathan Hale. Brandon Roy
should be in the house for the game because he
was Jontae's coach. I think it's going to be
a fun season. There's going to be a lot of stuff
going on. Fortunately, there is no Northern California
team. There was a San Jose team in the TVO for
a while, but I think the closest is probably
LA for you. I was hoping we'd get a game where
we come down to... the Bay Area with the Superhawks.
Maybe like picking 2 -0. Yeah, check out seattlesuperhawks
.com as our basketball season starts. It's going
to be a super fun season. We're playing Colorado.
It's all games available for free, I believe.
Right now, I know for sure that if you go to
the Hulu channel and search USBL, go to Hulu,
like the app, or on your device and search USBL,
you can pull up the games and watch them live.
Do you ever look at any betting odds or any kind
of analytics outside information like that? Or
is it just purely like, oh, I look at the lineup.
I just watched this scene. I watched my team
every single week. I could, in theory, do color
commentary, but for long -time listeners of the
show, know that my very first collaboration with
Aaron back in the day was during COVID when Jackson
Feltz and I called all -time Supersonics. And
soccer's the worst one to bet on because there's
ties. And Supersonics won the series. It was
tough. It didn't help that Jackson and I are
friends. and know each other, but we've never
called a game before. And not being next to each
other, being across the screen from each other
is hard. There's a lot of me telling random stories.
So, you know, shout out to him. Getting to privacy.
You know, trying to get him more involved with
the Sounders too. That was the first thing I
ever did with Aaron before the podcast even existed.
Because he did the same thing with Jackson. Was
it Reinhardt? Someone they did it with. You can
take part in this challenge. I'm sure there'll
be another cool prize this year. We don't know
what it's going to be yet. He was going through
all of the Sounders games through FIFA. Every
game day, before the game, a post goes up on
the Discord. So just come join the Discord for
the podcast. Kind of funny that then Jackson
ended up being one of the actual broadcasters
of the Sounders later. I mean, yeah, Sounders
later. And then we did that Sonics thing. Over
how many games? I'm not calling it. We've got
Nick Beckman. We do every game last season. He
calls all of, I believe he's on four points a
game average almost. Three point something points
a game. For Metro League and for the state basketball
championships. Oh, you're right. That's some
games. He calls the game. It should be super
fun. So that's still pretty good. That means
out of five points, getting two out of five.
That's just like baseball now, Cedar. You bet
200. I think he did. Actually, it's 400. That'd
be 400, wouldn't it? Yeah. But still. Yeah, but
I think what like was, you know, when he picked
the losses and he picked the scoreline rights.
So he was like where people got one point, he
was getting like four out of five or five out
of five. Right, because you're not just picking.
uh who wins and loses you're picking who scores
uh you're picking what else like uh the over
under over under yeah which is always 2 .5 it's
not it's not a betting over under it's was it
is it gonna be under three so yeah come come
join us on the discord and get in on it because
it's pretty pretty fun um i wonder what place
i got i'll have to look um i definitely was too
cynical at times and i definitely was too optimistic
at times. Isn't that the life of a Seattle sports
fan? The up and downs? The highs and the lows?
Yeah. Except for I feel like I'm more cynical
more often. Except for maybe not with this team.
So yeah, come on out. Oh, did they talk about
this on the other show? You'd think I would listen
to my own show, but I didn't. i was i want i
wanted to i wanted to record with you guys and
that's why i didn't go on the main show no yeah
i was just not feeling up recording and um i
don't know there's something about the last game
that really bummed me out uh because i felt like
another game that we should have won that we
didn't and i didn't want to bring that energy
to the podcast but did they talk about merch
uh they they did make the website okay yeah merch
website can you guys tell me what did you think
of it i was not involved in the uh design of
any of the merch but i i of course did coin one
of the phrases that is there and alex coined
the other one uh so let's talk about it well
the i mine the definitely a free pedro shirt
just because the design looks clean and it's
always free pedro wait wait wait but i thought
there was another podcast that has a shirt that
says that yeah maybe they made a shirt but Alex
is the one who coined that phrase. That's what
I'm talking about. Absolutely. Absolutely. Give
me my money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you
know, they can do whatever they want. Yeah. Honestly,
they need, honestly, they need all the help they
can get. You get the C line, Z line. Got to stay
above that. If you want to be the coach of this
team. Yeah. Well, you know, schmetzer was teetering
around there not too long ago right just a couple
of seasons ago so uh yeah i don't think it's
relevant this year i don't i don't no no this
seems like a pretty solid team but we'll get
to that uh well and also i think we're at the
point where you know brian's gonna leave on his
own terms you know i think that's just you know
i i think that's that's a that's pretty much
locked in it's pretty much where maybe maybe
a few years ago maybe you know maybe there was
a slight chance that that wasn't a guarantee
necessarily oh but uh yeah it's yeah but now
it seems pretty cemented yeah no i think he's
earned the chance to go out on his own terms
uh definitely and and i think he would he's not
gonna leave unless he's thought either the game
has passed him by or he's just not up for coaching
anymore well i mean i listened to a uh an interview
with him last week or something like that. He
was saying how he doesn't want to coach in his
70s, which, you know, fair. He says that now,
but the older you get, the more... I mean, I
guess... Yeah, that's true. When you make some
money, you make good money, you can walk away
whenever you want, but I think you'd miss it.
But maybe it's not the best for one's health
to be a head coach. Well, and especially in MLS.
I mean, the offseason is so short. Especially
if you're successful, right? Yeah. So, you know,
there's, I mean, you know, there's probably just
like barely any time off, you know, especially
as a coach. No, I bet you, yeah. Almost no time
off because you're immediately planning for the
next season, working with the general manager
on who you're going to get, all that kind of
stuff. Plus, you know, you can tell, I mean.
I think he's always been this way, but last couple
of seasons, he's been a little more ornery with
the, the, uh, some of the questions that he gets
asked even today, uh, where he's like, just ask
your question. I know what you're getting at.
Okay. I, okay. I kind of agree with that because
I mean, look again, I, I have a lot of respect
for, uh, journalists and reporters, people who
show up, they've got their credentials, they're
putting in the work. Like I totally respect that,
but I do, I do think that. sometimes their questions
they're trying to like kind of like position
like they're almost making it like kind of about
their perspective and they want to kind of include
like how they're positioning it where they're
coming from and i can imagine that And really,
after answering all of these questions all the
time, he really does just want direct questions,
right? That's why I said, just ask your question.
Yeah, I just think he's not trying to push their
narratives. Yeah, well, and he won't, and we'll
get to it. Well, let's talk about it right now.
Sailor, was it Alex? Is that his first name?
uh ryan ryan that's right trying to throw me
you're trying to throw me on with all this white
house stuff is alex the the goalkeeper what's
the goalkeeper's name oh uh max oh whatever they
have x's at the end you're oh yeah you max whatever
you're you know it's all the same no it's not
even max max is from vancouver i know canadian
no no i know but i got his name wrong so uh Wait,
Alex Ocampo? Yeah, we're talking about Ryan Saylor.
Of course, was hanging out with Donald Trump
this weekend. Or this week. Or today, I think
it was. Or yesterday. Yesterday, yeah. As Inter
-Miami went to the White House to celebrate being
MLS champs. You know, it's... People tried to...
Reporters tried to make it political. And Schmetzer
didn't bite. I think... For me, I have some frustration
sometimes where he won't address it. And I think
not addressing things makes him look like he
supports things because that's the society we
live in. But knowing, I mean, I don't know him,
but having spent enough time with them and having
conversations with them. not in that capacity
i know where he stands on certain things just
by the stuff he you know the charities he works
with the stuff like that he's just not gonna
yeah yeah yeah why why throw any kind of red
meat into that situation when again all it's
going to end up being for his purposes is a distraction
right from the team right if he if he handles
it And, you know, I think I would have handled
it differently. But I'm also someone who is an
activist that works in the world of, you know,
politics and sports and all this stuff in a different
way than he does. And I totally get it. It makes
sense to me why you wouldn't want to address
it. But he's been asked a bunch of times about
Iran and the World Cup and the war going on and
stuff like that recently. And he's like, well,
that's political. I'm not getting involved in
that. Yeah. As if soccer isn't political based
on the fact that we have to sign players to visas
and all this kind of stuff. Yeah. I think he
was like, just ask me about Andrew Thomas and
fry at this point. Yeah. Ask me about that. Who's
going to start. Well, cause again, I mean not,
and this is not to say that Brian isn't a well
-informed intelligent. individual who's capable
of critical thinking of you know about the world
around him but again what you know why are we
asking i mean i get it sometimes it's like well
we have to ask these questions but like it's
not as if he's the expert on world politics or
anything he's the expert on being the head coach
of the seattle sounders yeah and i also and i
agree too that again these are important topics
these are relevant to everybody right now but
the politics he's he literally has he's being
paid to be concerned about our who's starting
and going right fryer thomas and he answered
so i mean i answered that and we'll get we'll
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talk about who's starting in goal. Brian Schmetzer
spoke on that today. He smoked on it. I mean,
he might have, but I think he's a drinker. Yeah.
But first, they announced who we are playing
in the League's Cup. One of you guys want to
hit that and talk about kind of... A draw that
looks good until maybe you look at the standings
right now in Liga Mequis. Yeah, I think what
first caught my attention was the fact that there's
going to be games played in Mexico. It's only
four games, I think, but still it's a start that
we've been asking as fans from both leagues is
that, you know, Leagues Cup is this Mickey Mouse
trophy because all the games are played in the
U .S. But now we're starting to see that transition
of the games being played in Mexico, which I
think it's really good. And, you know, we're
going to open our campaign to defend the title
against the Liga MX champs at their home stadium.
Toluca. It's going to be, I think it's going
to be very tough. Yeah, definitely. They're currently
second with 21 points. Again, having another
great season. Uh, and then we go to the team
or we host that team that weren't they, uh, Alex,
I'm gonna let you say their name. Cause I cannot
say it for the life of me. Uh, but they're the
team where they had the brawl in the crowd where
people were like getting their heads kicked in.
And like people, they, I mean, I watched a lot
of videos. It was brutal. Oh, I get it. That
all. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Yeah. That was scary.
But, uh, 17th with six points. That's luckily
not a very good team. Yeah, they're sitting second
to last place. Not very good right now. But I
think that's going to be the marquee game. Like
a lot of my friends and people that I know that
live around Yakima, they already got tickets
to that game. And I know it's a Wednesday game,
but I think that game's going to, it's going
to sell well. It's already selling well. Luckily
I still got, I got my ticket already. Yeah. I
opted in through my season tickets. I guess I
didn't opt out. So I'm automatically opted in.
Yeah. What's weird is that in the beginning of
the, of the year, they're like, Oh, if you're
under the. 1974 membership. You can't opt out
of Leaks Cup, but I got the email that I'm able
to opt out. Maybe don't say that out loud because
now they're going to change it. Edit this part
out, guys. Forget what I said. It was a prank.
It was for educational purposes to see if you're
listening or not. Yeah, that is weird. Speaking
of which, did you use the app for your discount
and or for buying? food in the stadium when you
were there oh yeah it was how did how did how
did the discount because it's not like it used
to be where you showed it like basically a ticket
but you could scan something or how did that
work for you they took what for the pro shop
they took my phone and i don't know if they looked
at the qr code and scanned it or just looked
at it and then put and entered in the numbers
but i used the my credit to get some some beers
And I just got a, I just had to scan the QR code
and it worked just fine. Nice. And I was at the
grab and go station too. So, you know, it was,
um, you double check to make sure that it tries
you correctly. Yeah. Yeah. I looked at total.
I got the value beers. I was like, okay, everything's
fine. I'd heard a few stories of people that
struggled with that, but I mean, for those that
don't know, they, they haven't seen, or maybe
you don't know since you weren't there. Um, There
is now built into the new Sounders app or updated
Sounders and rain app. Your, your code, your,
you have a QR code that lets you get your discount
as opposed to having to show a ticket to get
that. They didn't look good. So they scan that.
And you can also buy your food just by having
your, your discount code scanned. And then you
get what? 10 % off food. Oh, nice. Something
like that. And that's for, that's for season
ticket holders. Yeah. Yeah. So it's in this app
when you have your season ticket account signed
in. It's just like built into it. It's pretty
cool. And they actually have a Kraken I found
out the other day. I went to my first Kraken
game of the season. And I was not logged in,
so I didn't get my discount. But down to my probably
final 10 games as a Kraken season ticket holder.
But it was fun. We lost. But they remind me how
much I love going to Kraken games. How are they
doing this year? They currently sit in eighth
place in the Western Conference. So they're in
the last playoff spot. Before that game, I didn't
check what happened. Two points ahead of San
Jose. So both my teams are right there. I need
someone else to drop down and both teams make
the playoffs. I'd love that number seven versus
number eight in the Western Conference Finals.
Seattle versus San Jose would be my dream Western
Conference Final. Which jersey are you going
to wear? When I've done it in the past, I've
worn a Sharks jersey and a Kraken hat. There's
usually two games in Seattle. If there is, then
I'll switch it the other time. I'll wear a Kraken
jersey and a Sharks hat. So I might have to switch
at halftime if it actually happened. I did that
Notre Dame back in the day. In 1995, Notre Dame
played – no, USC. I did go to Notre Dame, USC.
Notre Dame played Washington at Washington. And
I wore a Notre Dame hat and a Husky jersey. And
at halftime, I switched to a Notre Dame jersey
and a Husky hat. And then I left during the fourth
quarter to drive over with my friend to the Kingdome
so that we could watch the – I think it was the
game where Edgar hit the Grand Slam in the 95
playoffs. So it was quite a day getting to watch
Notre Dame -Washington football and then go to
the Kingdome. Nice. Yeah. That does sound like
a good day. How are you guys feeling about League's
Cup? I mean, I'm excited at the fact that we're
going to be playing Chivas. It's a very popular
team. A lot of the people that I know are Chivas
fans and Sounders fans. And we told my buddy,
I'm like, so which jersey are you going to wear?
And another one said, it's like going to Pan
Express and getting half and half. Yeah. I mean,
it's interesting. I miss Chivas USA. I know they
were really bad for a while, but back when there
was an MLS team owned by Chivas, it was kind
of fun. I kind of enjoyed them. They were really
bad. You know, even if they changed their name,
they're still Chivas USA to me. LAFC was not.
It was a big enough break. In fact, the LA Galaxy
have been Chivas USA most of the recent years.
No offense, Edgar. Except for when they finally
came back and won the championship. I mean, that
should be a bigger match than Cruz Azul. We had
a lot of Cruz Azul fans, but this is, I feel
like, Chivas is the most popular team, right?
Yeah, one if not top two. Yeah, up there with
America, maybe? Yeah. And I think Toluca. Toluca
is getting popular recently since they've been
good. Yeah. Winning always helps with that, but
they're not the traditional powerhouse. Yeah.
Oh, go ahead. Oh, sorry. I was just going to
chime in. Yeah, I'm excited that we're playing,
you know, a recent champion, Toluca. And then,
you know, like you guys are saying, a super popular
club in Chivas. Again, it'll just, if we do well
and perform to our best, it'll just raise our
profile. um even more although i i think the
the mexican league team should know uh us by
now uh based on our past exploits but uh yeah
it'll be fun have we played chivas before i feel
like maybe a friendly yeah friendly a couple
years ago no i think you mentioned yeah i think
it was i think it was a while maybe before maybe
we played more than once I was teaching, I remember
at the time, so I was not at the match. I watched
it on my phone while I was teaching because I
taught Wednesday nights. I believe it was the
match that... Was that the match? There was one
where ECS boycotted because of the ticket prices.
But yeah, I mean, it's been a... It'll be an
interesting thing. And I know for Garth, I can't
speak for... our current GM when Garth was GM
he always said that playing Mexican opponents
is important because it it helps us see where
we are because that's the league the MLS wants
to be and that's the quality they want to be
and so if we can continuously prove that we're
better than them it means we're doing the right
thing and it will not only benefit the MLS the
Sounders it'll start benefiting U .S. soccer
and a lot you know when the USA becomes the more
and it might already be in some regards, the
more attractive national team to play for, then
that raises the level of potential for that team
as well. Yeah. So the last time we played at
Chivas was 2018 in the CCC quarterfinals where
we lost 3 -1 on aggregate. Yeah. And then 2010
friendly where we won 3 -1. Wow. It was that
long ago. That's crazy. That's the last time
they've been relevant. Sorry, guys. I mean, they're
like Manchester United, right? They used to be
good, and now no one gives a shit unless you're
old. I remember the last time they made the final,
they were like, okay, we're going for the 15th
championship. That was, what, five, six years
ago? They're Yankees fans. And their bitter rivals
won, like, three in a row. back to back to back
since they got into that final. That sounds to
me like the Niners and their quest for six. Five
rings. They've been on that quest for this whole
decade. This is 94. 94 was less than they won.
And you know what? Hey, good for them. Look,
we weren't even division rivals then. That was
before. Yeah, I mean, that was before. I mean,
if I were alive back then, you know, I was just
watching them. I mean, who wouldn't root for
Joe Montana and Jerry Rice? I mean, what great
teams. Yeah, the final one, I think, was Steve
Young. But, yeah, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, you
know, Roger Craig, Dana Stubblefield, Ronnie
Lott. There was a lot of Hall of Famers, and
Roger Craig just got in this year. A lot of Hall
of Famers on those teams that were super fun
to watch. And that was the era of the NFL before
the salary cap. So, you know, once you have division
realignment. There was a salary cap, but the
49ers were really good at cheating it, is what
it was. And they later got in trouble for it.
So they walked so the Dodgers could run. Yes,
yes. I mean, I believe the dad of the current,
I think the daughter owns the team now. But the
dad, who was the original owner, got banned because
of some of the stuff he pulled around the salary
cap. So... Hey, I mean, if you know Cameron,
you know what? You might have to date a 49er
fan. Because you know what? At the end of the
day, you don't expect a ring. That's pretty good.
But they sure talk about it a lot. Yeah, you
just be like, Those videos are where the guy
goes on his knee to tie his shoe. Oh, you thought?
You almost had it. Oh, man. No, I'd get married.
Let's talk about the Sounders playing at Salt
Lake. We asked a question last episode that may
never be heard, meaning the last episode the
three of us did because we lost part of it with
Squadcast, and we likely will be moving on from
Squadcast. We're doing research right now. uh,
into a full production, like TV version of it
so that people can still hear us, but then they'll
be able to see us too. And, uh, get ready. Yeah.
Get ready. The video works so good back in 2013
or whatever that was when Facebook was faking
the numbers. So everyone switched to video and
it turned out the numbers were fake and video
did not make more money. It did not work out
well. But Sounders played Salt Lake. And I remember
I asked, it was a question from Yaya that came
in from our mail bag. And I had asked, how are
you feeling after that first game? Are you excited
about the Sounders? And we talked a lot about
it. But now we've lost at Salt Lake. So we're
no longer undefeated. We're no longer coming
off of what was our excitement level in the preseason,
in the offseason versus now. And we got a little
dose of reality. I remember on the show, I think
we all predicted a Sounders win. No, you didn't,
Alex? No, I got peer pressured. I put a draw.
I got peer pressured into putting a win. And
I'm mad at the world because I was going to put
a 2 -1 loss. And I put a 2 -1 win. I did put
a loss when the game time came. So I at least
got points for that. I had come to my senses
by the time it was game time. But we hyped each
other up enough that I picked a win. We're after
a 2 -1 loss at Salt Lake where, yeah, Gozo the
Bozo went off. I kept saying that the whole time.
We'll get into the game, but how are you feeling
coming off a 2 -1 loss at Salt Lake, a place
where the Sounders have not won in the regular
season since 2012, have not won overall since
the 2013 playoffs? I think there's just three
certainties in life. Death, taxes, and San Jose
losing to RSL. I mean, there's no players left
from those teams except for Schmetzer. He's the
only person that was assistant coach back then.
The field is cursed. I don't know what they did.
They put something on the ground. I don't know
who they buried under the field. I mean, Ryan
Taylor probably really loves America first field.
Yeah, I mean, this is just a game. This is a
game you write off. Like, you look at the calendar,
you say, when do we play RSL? Cross it out. I'm
not watching it that day. How are you feeling,
Cedar? Yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously frustrating,
but... And again, like I picked for the score
prediction challenge, I went with a 0 -0 draw.
So that's kind of where I was at. Actually, you
know what? I think I did too. I think I went
in like, I can't do it. I got to do it. We haven't
scored there for like years and like, you know,
until this past game, right? It was the first
time in a while. I felt like, oh, our defense
should be pretty solid. I wouldn't be surprised
if it just ends up scoreless and just ends up
this frustrating stalemate. And you know what?
Maybe, obviously results -wise, you'd rather
have a point than no points. But maybe overall
it's a good thing that we lost while still scoring
a goal, while still putting up some XG. I think
there are some positives to take away. I think
there's also some weaknesses that were exposed
and exploited. Again, when you have a guy like
a kid like Gozo who can just run and run and
run and you're not ready for it and nobody can
kind of keep up with him and he's just kind of
breaking you apart a little bit. I think it's
a good thing to see, like, oh, okay. Like, that
doesn't usually happen to us, right? And so to
see it happen, it's like, oh, okay. Like, this
can happen. This can just come out of nowhere,
basically. And, yeah, I mean, you've got to give
a lot of credit to Gozo and Hezekani. Are they
both homegrown or just both young? I know Hezekani's
homegrown. I don't know. I don't know if they're
both. Gonzo? Gozo? Gozo, yeah. Gozo. I think
he might have signed. I don't think he's homegrown,
but he's still like – I think he's the one that
they talk about at the club. Like he's the –
he's their Obed. He's their Obed, yeah, for sure.
And he was playing – which side was he playing
on? Right side. Right side, yeah. Right side
fullback. And I had heard from another, you know,
MLS podcast that – And basically, pitch side,
Brian was so frustrated with how we just weren't
able. We had zero answers for him. And then the
RSL coaches. He was very critical of Nuhu and
Reagan on that play. Yeah, I mean, totally. And
then also, on the flip side too, not only do
you have that, but then apparently the RSL coaching
staff. This kid is so raw still. They were literally
coaching him during the game on his positioning,
when to step, when to go with the guy, when to
take off. He's still so raw. He's still learning
that position. So I think that combination of
things make it especially frustrating for Brian,
I can imagine. I think you're right. I was going
to say, I think you're right. Cause, cause he
was, he was doing something that we haven't seen
very often. Cause usually knew who shuts down
players like that. And I don't know. I mean,
knew who didn't by any means have a terrible
game. I think his game was fine. I wouldn't put
the goal solely on him. I mean, there's always
multiple things there that could be done differently,
but of course, Brian did when asked about. regan's
involvement with the u .s national team and whether
he was in the conversation he said well if he
wants to get back into the conversation he can't
make plays like he did against rsl yeah i mean
it's just it's just honestly true yeah yes if
you want to play at the highest level which is
the world national team in a world cup like plays
like that are not going to cut it like they're
going to put tim bream slow ass out there before
they put regan in there yeah totally i mean he's
not in the conversation even like watching who's
going to make it, who's on the bubble, who's
not going to make it. He hasn't been in camp.
I think he did one time get invited, right? But
he's never been actually in camp. Yeah, he had
to leave because of an injury, I believe. Yeah.
So I'm not holding my breath on that. I'm not
sure where that... I mean, it's a good question
to ask, but I think it's not in a, in a world
cup year because in a world cup year, you're
not, you're not bringing up young players to
try and see who the future is. You're, you're
trying to figure out who the roster is. Yeah,
definitely. And, and I, I think Yamar had kind
of a down game too. Right. You know, I, I think
it took a lot of just like a few people having
bad days and, you know, something that usually,
we we don't face right we don't we're not playing
a gozo uh every week i i think it took a lot
for us to to lose this game um and then they
talked about it on the last uh schedule but uh
show but you know uh uh dotson's play where you
know he recovered the ball but instead of clearing
it he tried to pass that right and then that
led to one of the goals right and if he just
you know, boots it, it might have ended up a
draw, right? It's just a combination of all these
little things. Christian and Dotson with giveaways
that led to goal. I mean, yeah, there's things
like that. I mean, we go into halftime down 1
-0, and our expected goals, according to MLS,
which I feel like are always a little lower than
they should be, had us at over 1, whereas Salt
Lake was down just barely above 0. A game that
flowed our way with the goal against the run,
not against the run of play, but against maybe
how the game was going. Come into the second
half, Alex, and Gozo with a good assist appeal
immediately go down to nothing. How are you feeling
at that point? I stopped paying attention at
that point. I think UFC was on. I was like, let's
watch UFC. I was just like, I was thinking, I'm
a dumbass for thinking we were going to win.
Yeah. I'm like, this is what I get for being
peer pressured. No, I mean, I went outside and
then my buddy comes out. He's like, hey, you
guys just scored. I was like, I think I'm going
to have to stay outside then and we score another
one. There was a game. I think the Sounders.
I scored four goals, and every goal my mom was
in the laundry room. This was back in the day.
And I kept being like, Mom, you just got to stay
in the laundry room. You cannot come out. Because
every time you went in there to pull out laundry
or switch laundry, the Sounders would score a
goal. No, it was like last season against Nashville
when you didn't go. Or the games we didn't go,
you missed all the three goal or the five goal
thrillers. Yeah, yeah. Or there was multiple
games where... There was only one where it didn't
happen, but I went to the bathroom in the stadium
when I was there and then they would score a
goal. And so that happened. I don't usually go
to the bathroom during the game. I wait until
like halftime or whatever. I think I went four
times during the game where I probably had too
much beer or something. And three times, the
first three times, the Sounders scored while
I was in the bathroom. So it was like, oh my
God, maybe I'm involved in this somehow. You
are, Cameron. More than you'll ever know. I mean,
great, great Sounders goal there. What are you
thinking, Cedar, when that goal goes in? I'm
thinking game on. I mean, again, only down one.
You know, why not? But, you know, what I did
like seeing was Brian using all of his subs.
Yeah, definitely. And I forgot that actually
was first. I was thinking that was after the
first goal. That's incorrect, because the first
goal was in the 62nd minute, and he made three
subs in the 58th minute. And so that, I think,
was huge. And that's something maybe, Alex, you
didn't see since you were outside. Well, Brian
went, you know what? This is not working. Oh,
no, I think I saw the subs. And then I proceeded.
I was like, yeah, it's chalked up. Kalani for
Yamar? All right, whatever. No, I saw Mosovsky
for D -Row. I was like, we're going to cross
it into Mosovsky. You know what? He was far more.
Not that it was. I reiterate. Was it Nico? One
of the press people. I'm not criticizing Osazle.
I'm just saying he wasn't very involved with
the game. Yeah, he had 16 touches. I think he's
also a young player. He's excited. He wants to
prove himself. He's eager. He wants to get on
the ball. That's why we see him. And out wide,
deeper positions instead of being central. Because
you would think with his big frame and knowing
that we were just crossing the box into no one,
he would be, you know, at the end of some of
those crosses. Yeah. But no, I mean, Danny ended
up being goal dangerous. I mean, he scored a
goal that didn't count. But let's wait a minute.
No, but I mean, I think we got to tip our cap
to Cabral. He played out of his mind. Oh, yeah.
That early save. I mean, right from the get.
That's the thing is before the game, I think
it was, it could have been halftime. Yeah, it
may have been halftime, but they talk about before
the game too. Brian was talking about this after
the game and he mentioned it again. This was
a stadium that, you know, Rusnak knows. And he
said, we got to score our chances. You get a
chance, you need to score. And we didn't. We
didn't. I mean, that's what it came down to is
we had the opportunities and we didn't score.
And that's what we ended up down to nothing and
couldn't fight our way back. Even though I will
say watching a comeback and seeing the Sounders
come back, even though we didn't end up getting
that second goal because they called them off
sides, that made me feel more confident that
we could come back in that instance, even though
it was a loss, knowing that they didn't give
up, that Schmetzer made meaningful subs in the
58th minute instead of waiting until the 80th
minute. And it completely, I mean, come on, we
saw Alex move over from right back to center
back and it worked. Kalani went there, we became
more offensive. We saw Danny be more of a target
forward than Osaze had been during the game,
which is not necessarily his style of play. And
then Snyder looked great when he came in and
played on the right in Jesus's position. He didn't
just play CDM. So it was a really interesting
game from that perspective. Yeah, it's good to
see that. It makes the loss, again, more palatable
just because you could see we almost came back
and at least tied it, right? Yeah, I liked everything
I saw from the subs for the most part. You know,
Areola came on in the 81st minute, and I'm excited
to see more of him as the season goes on, too.
I mean, that's going to be... Yeah, Petkovic,
he got out there. It was only a few minutes,
but he looks big. He looks physical. He looks
like he's ready to go. I mean, all those guys
looked hungry. They brought some energy to everything.
I like it. I mean, look, none of these spots
on the team, the starting spots, really should
be. locked in if they don't need to be right
and we should be having the people out there
that the players out there that uh you know i
mean i i get like osaze like i could see you
know we can all see kind of the potential there
but if musavsky is the one who's going to be
time after time you know getting in the right
spot to score goals um and we just look better
with him out there i mean why why not start him
right i mean i think it'll come down to who Because
he was in the right spot last time. And sure,
he scored a lot of goals, but he also didn't
score a lot. And that's why he's not in that
position right now, I think. There's probably
more to do with Osaze coming up and the amount
of goals that... And maybe it's what have you
done for me lately, but in the playoffs, Danny
had a chance to win that series. Yeah, that's
true. Couldn't do it. Not against him. I'm not
criticizing him. No, no, but I mean, that's important,
right? Yeah. You know? I think that... I feel
like depending on if Fozazi has a good game or
not against St. Louis, I think this is going
to dictate who starts against... Who do we play
after Arso? Whitecaps. Yeah, this would probably
dictate who we play against. Who starts against
Vancouver? I mean, honestly, I think we're going
to rotate against Vancouver regardless as long
as people are healthy. Yeah, the thing is we're
kind of thinned out at Winger. Our deepest position
at winger and yet more thinned out. It's crazy.
And we're only three weeks into the season. And
we had a Champions League bye. Yeah. And our
center back pairings are a little off with some
injuries. And then, of course, one of them is
hanging out at the White House. With degenerative
knee issues. Yeah. I don't know if it's just
the issues. We'll talk about that. But first,
I want to touch on what something Schmesser said
in the press conference as we move on to upcoming
matches in St. Louis and beyond. Do you have
anything you want to say? Anything else about
that RSL 2 -1 loss? No? Looks good. Yeah. I mean,
wasn't happy with it, but it wasn't a bad performance.
It was just a... I kind of felt like it was like
a what if. If we had hit some of our chances,
that game finishes differently. It was Cabral
having a 10 out of 10. Yeah. He won in the game.
He was the man of the match. You know, there's
going to be games where just keepers save everything
or almost everything. And you just can't do nothing
about it. Yeah. We teased it earlier before the
ad. Spencer has announced. He hasn't said this
positively, but by the way he said it, you know
this is the case. Moving forward, we will continue
to have Andrew Thomas as our starter at goalie
because we will see him not starting in CONCACAF
Champions Cup. That will be Fry's tournament.
So much like it was the other way around last
year, I think it was Jada Evans from Seattle
Times that asked this question, much like it
was the way last year where Andy got those starts.
We're going to see Fry get in there and get some
starts, all the starts in the CONCACAF Champions
Cup. I think that's good news, right? Yeah, I
think honestly, a competition like that, I would
go with the more experienced guy. Plus, he needs
minutes in order to stay fresh. Because if Andrew
gets hurt, we're going to need somebody like
him to come in. Yeah, I mean, I have no issue
with that. I will prefer Thomas, you know, in
the regular season and into the playoffs and
let Fry take all the competitions. Yeah, that
sounds good to me. Is that a Cedar thought? Yeah.
I thought he was frozen for a second. Not again.
I like Stefan Fry. It'll be nice to see him out
there. That's my take. I agree. So let's talk
injuries. Paul Rotherock hurt his foot in the
last game. He's questionable. It's going to depend
on how he handles anti -inflammatories. Who are
you certain if he can't play? I guess Areola.
Yeah, that might have to be it. Because Georgie
got a crack on the bottom of his foot. Yeah,
I mean, Schmetzer says he's fine, but do you
want him starting with a broken foot? I mean,
think of it like this. You had Rodrigo, who just
tore his ACL. He was playing on a slight tear,
which doctors said he was fine. And now he's
going to miss the World Cup because he tore his
ACL. And then you have Mbappe, where he went
to France to rehab his knee. Unless there's new
news, he's fine. And the media has been blowing
that out of proportion. And I mean, they're saying
that he, that he doesn't need surgery, but if
he doesn't get surgery and then he hurts his
knee, I'm like, to me, it's like another Ronaldo
R nine situation happening. Yeah. I mean, but
he, he had knees made of glass. They were pretty
bad. But yeah, head in there. But yeah, I mean,
it's, it's. I mean, it's not good, but I mean
the bone it's so the crack is in a place where
apparently it won't get worse as long as it doesn't
cause pain. So the question is how much, and
those things like even I know just from my injuries,
like having arthritis in my knees, osteoarthritis,
some people that doesn't hurt them at all. But
me, it's excruciating pain, which is one of the
reasons why I just had that, those PRP injections.
And finally, after six weeks off, I get to play
soccer again this weekend for the first time.
six weeks so i'm excited to get out there but
if i if i know that issue a real professional
is going to know that no yeah i think i'm just
a little bit worried because he trusted jordan
when he felt his tightness and warm -ups and
then now he's out for a month and the last thing
we need is to lose another winger and i mean
yeah we can call up you know you sukonome or
sebastian gomez but we're we're dating out like
we're gonna have to switch formation Yeah, I
think, though, this is the kind of injury where
it's not trusting Georgie just because it's not
like, oh, if it hurts, it doesn't mean it's getting
worse. It just means it hurts. Yeah. Like he's
not going to get worse by playing. Unless, I
mean, I suppose if someone stomps on his foot,
maybe. Just by average playing, it's not going
to get worse. It's just a... A crack in his foot.
I mean, I think he does. It's just a crack in
his foot. I mean, what's the big deal, guys?
It's not a clean break. I mean, he didn't drop
a cow on his foot. He completely demolished it.
My foot wasn't broken either. It was just cracked.
Yeah, you're right. And there was no ligament
holding it together. Yeah, I mean, this is what
you get for going out and cow tipping. Wait,
what? What happened? He destroyed his whole foot
at work. I didn't. I destroyed the leg. Yeah.
Oh, oh, God. So funny story. I actually ran into
a guy one time. I game stopped because, you know,
I'm on crutches. It's the winter time. What am
I going to do? Play video games. That's it. And
I run into a guy that also had the same type
of injury that I had, but I think his was a motorcycle
accident, but he shattered his foot. So he, he
was like, he had all the, he had like a jar full
of all the screws he had. Oh, I was like, thank
God I didn't have no screws. It turns out riding
a motorcycle is far more dangerous than chopping
up cows. Yeah. Kim Keehy is out. Injured. He
can't play. A little setback. He should be okay,
but we'll see what happens. Georgie is fine.
Ryan Saylor is out. We'll get back to that. Areola
is ready to start. We've been getting back to
that. We're waiting for him to get back. I mean,
Cedar, you said you were ready to see Areola,
right? Are we thinking he's going to play some
minutes then? I'm always ready to see Areola.
Yeah, no, absolutely. I think, look, we saw his
potential last season, right? We saw how good
he was. Okay, get it out now because once we
go to video, we're going to get demonetized.
Clearly, I wasn't ready for that Areola. I'll
bring my A game next time. But yeah, no, I'm
excited. I'm excited. One Paul for another. I
mean, we've seen how good he can be in this league.
I remember when we would play FC Dallas. And
honestly, from those matches, I don't even remember
Jesus Ferreira. The person I remember is Paul
Areola just being the most annoying pest of a
player against us. I think that's why I didn't
like him on the U .S. national team because he
was such a pest against us. Yeah, seriously.
I really actually genuinely disliked him for
a long time. Once he joined the team and watching
some interviews with him, he seemed so... you
know nice and and uh soft -spoken and like he's
just uh he's he's uh i mean all these guys are
but he's a total competitor yeah and so i'm i'm
glad he's on our team and uh i want to see i
want to see that paul ariola come out i mean
we're gonna need we're gonna need that you know
um and you know paul rothrock didn't have you
know the his best uh performance last time um
he it just didn't seem like he was impacting
the game a ton there just wasn't you know there
wasn't that like fit that last finishing like
you know pass from his action out on the wing
to like create this draw that yellow card though
that when he when he did basically the same thing
where he got the guy to overrun it and he pulled
him i mean he had an early yeah i think you're
right it was not sustained throughout the game
in a way that meant okay he has to be the one
starting on the left that's true but did we get
but did he then capitalize on that guy being
on a yellow, right? Like look, and I love Rothrock.
He's, he's obviously a really great player and
he'll be back and he'll be a great contributor,
but I'm excited to see Ariel. Yeah. Yeah. I remember
he was balling before he went down. Yeah. Yeah,
absolutely. I mean, he, he's legit. He's legit.
And I think that. It's just that we haven't seen
enough of him to say like, okay, like he's, you
know, he's legit. Like we know he's legit from
his past, but it's like this, we need to see
him do it in a sounder shirt. Yeah. Can, can
he be legit with us? I mean, I think he, I think
he was when he was playing last year, he just
got to do it consistently. Yeah. He has to stay
healthy. I feel like he was the best player on
the field when he was out there. And Pedro wasn't,
but he was doing a lot of good stuff and seeing
them together in preseason in that Louisville
City game in person. He's like a little gremlin.
I mean, he's listed at 5 '8". Paul Areola plays
at like 5 '3". He's down low and like crouching.
Yeah, I don't think he's 5 '8". I don't think
he is either. I think I'd like seen him one time
and he's like 5 '7", maybe. Yeah, that's his
listed height. Baseball was always like that,
but I guess they just had to completely redo
it, and so a bunch of players that used to be
over 6 feet are now only 5 '9", 5 '10", 5 '11".
I would have been like, I'm listed at 6 '4",
250. Man, I don't know how I missed this. We
should have talked about this at the beginning
of the show, but Max Crosby was traded from the
Raiders to the Ravens. As a Seahawks fan, I didn't
want to give up two first -round picks, but dang,
that would have been fun to see him on that Seahawks
defense. I mean, at least he didn't stay in our
division because there was talk that he might
go to San Francisco. Yeah, that would have been
awful. San Francisco needs those first -round
picks with all their injuries anyways. Those
first -round picks don't want to go there. The
Rams got Trent McDuffie. Oh, interesting. I heard
he makes things about him. Like he's only good
on the slaw and he's not good on the outside
for his salary. Yeah, I mean, you know, if you
get played out of position. So now the Vikings
just need to go get Geno Smith and everything
comes full circle. I've seen some memes about
Geno and, you know, the whole thing going on
in the Middle East is just... Oh, no. Blame it
on Gino. They were like, if you send Gino, he'll
overthrow her real quick. Oh, my God. Oh, man.
You know, I like Gino. I really liked his time
with us. I think he came in and filled in some
pretty big shoes, you know, with Russ leaving.
Obviously, Russ has not gotten back to where
he used to be. But I liked Gino. I liked him.
That being said, I'm happy with how everything
unfolded this past year. Well, before we get
too far into Seahawks scuttlebutt, let's pull
it back and talk about upcoming Sounders matches.
This weekend, we've got St. Louis City on Saturday.
Then this is Thursday. I thought the game was
on Wednesday. Did they move it to Thursday? Oh,
I might have just read it down wrong. Wednesday,
March 12th. Let's double check on that. Oh, no,
it is Thursday. Interesting. Thursday, March
12th, we have Champions Cup, Whitecaps, home
game but being played in Spokane. Then we go
to Earthquakes on the 15th, the first game of
the Heritage Cup trophy. chance to win uh the
second one will be in may because we play three
times in the season so only two of them count
and then of course uh oh no i'm sorry the 12th
is away then it's wednesday march 18th at home
for the spokane match i am i got those backwards
that's on me i apologize for that so uh we're
we're at vancouver on thursday then at san jose
and then home in spokane the following wednesday
so uh A lot of road games coming up. In fact,
we then go away to Minnesota United and Houston
Dynamo before returning home to play Salt Lake
on the 12th. How are you feeling about this St.
Louis game coming up? I mean, St. Louis hasn't
been playing too good. I saw their game last
week. They played one home game so far, is that
right? Yeah, I think they played less. They lost
at San Diego, and then they opened at home in
a tie with Charlotte. Yeah, I was watching the
San Diego game. San Diego just dominated them.
They were pretty good in that Charlotte game.
That was a big back and forth. Yeah, they were
missing, what's his name, Harto? He was gone
because he had his baby, so he'll be back. But
I think that they're a team that's trying to...
They don't have a forward, so they're in the
same predicament as us. Which they did, right?
They traded him to LA Galaxy. He's been good.
And he's been killing it over there. I think
he had a hat trick or he had two goals in like
10 minutes. But I think it just sucks because
we're walking in there like hurt. So it's hard
for me to really... see us getting a result,
especially away from home. And given that last
year we lost 2 -1, so I think it's... I mean,
I think we're a different team. They're a different
team. If we can find a way to score, does that
alleviate your worries in that? I think it's
more so if we score first. I just think if we've
got to score more than one, we've got to score
two at least. I mean, Cedar... The last match,
of course, St. Louis was away, but they were
out -possessed by San Diego, 63 -37. Their pass
accuracy was much less. They only committed three
fouls the whole game, though, which is insane.
I think we had 18 in our opening game against
us. We committed 10. What do you think it is?
And maybe you don't feel this way. I feel like
the Sounders on the road are not as dynamic and
are not as fun to watch as at home. And last
year, it felt like it was more of a struggle,
more of a slog in some of these games. And maybe
that's travel. Maybe that's just midweek games
or whatever it was. But are you confident in
the Sounders on the road this season? Yeah, I
think so. We all know that MLS is tough to play.
When you're away, just because of the travel,
you look at, I think it was either week one or
this past week, but the amount of away teams
that won each of those weeks, it's a very, very
small number. It's always going to be tough on
the road. That being said, I think out of this
stretch of... Thankfully, it all uploaded, so
we didn't lose anything there. It's because you're
wearing a San Jose Clash kit. Yeah, I am wearing
a San Jose Clash kit. We're not playing San Jose,
and it's not the Earthquake, it's the Clash.
I consider the Earthquakes to be a different
team, although they were the Earthquakes when
I lived there. My Earthquakes are now the Houston
Dynamo, which is one of the reasons. That's right.
Sorry. Go ahead, Cedar. You were saying. No,
no, no. You're totally fine. I think the first
ever MLS match was in San Jose. It was the Clash
versus DC United. Yeah, way back in the day.
That was like the first ever MLS match. This
is an Eric Winalda jersey. Going back to those
days. We all love Eric Winalda. Can we take a
quick side trip here? I watched a YouTube video
last night that in 96, at the end of the season,
There was an unofficial strike by the US players
leading into who was going to be on the World
Cup roster for 98. So we're talking two years
ago in terms of figuring out the roster. But
because of that, none of the first team players
and none of the second team players would play
in a way friendly in Peru midweek. And so the
coach had to put together a bunch of no names
and a few young players who ended up. like Eddie
Lewis, it was his first ever cap. And then he
ended up being one of the most cap players in
US history, but not for another two years after
that, did he get another cap? And so it was kind
of crazy that in 96, at the end of the MLS season,
they pulled in some MLS players and some other
young players and played this game where they
just got demolished by Peru down in Peru midweek
in the lead up. It was the last match before
World Cup qualifying. So, and then after that,
they played so poorly that. the U S soccer federation
came back and figured out what to do and paid
both the men and women's team because the 96
Olympics were coming up, but kind of see sports
is political. We talked to him. We're bringing
a full circle from the beginning of this show.
Sports is political. And striking works, collective
bargaining works. You're listening to collective
bargaining scuttlebutts. We're going to talk
to you about the labor history of sports in the
United States. Oh, God, I would love to teach
that class. We went through a history of that
a little bit in the class I taught last quarter,
the legal issues in sports and entertainment,
because we talked about how the various leagues
formed you know, how like baseball gets the exemption
from being I'm tired. I know that they, they
basically can be a conglomerate that breaks the
law. No other sport can, except for the MLS kind
of can. And that's why they have a single entity,
even though it's technically should be illegal.
No one cares. This is just me being a law nerd.
Alex is like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I was going to say, let's just take a minute
to show our solidarity with the USO teams that
took a minute. Oh, yeah. Did they settle? Or
do you know? Because I know they were going to
not play their first game. They're still trying
to negotiate. I think tonight would have been
the first game, right? They did a minute of they
didn't do nothing. They just stood there. Okay,
so they actually played the game, but they did
a minute. Of nothing at the beginning. That's
interesting. I like that because they can stay
at the table without pissing off the other side.
That's a good first tactic. It's not a first
tactic. It's like a 10th or 11th tactic. A friend
of mine, Steve, was talking to some high ups
in the USLPA about some of the stuff because
he is a, I mean, he wasn't advising them, but
had wrote him because he's a labor attorney.
And so I've been getting kind of the other side
of it, hearing it from the labor side. what the
issues are, so it's cool. Shout out to Steve
for that. Good. What are we thinking the score
is going to be in St. Louis, then? Energizer
Park. We need energy. Is that what it's called?
I think that's... That's so funny. It probably
is. I think it is. I think they had a generic
name beforehand, and then they got a sponsor,
right? It was just like City Park. It is Energizer
Park. Tomorrow, taking on St. Louis SC. So the
first game, they only had 46 % possession, but
they did commit 10 fouls. So this is a team that
will commit fouls. It just didn't work out in
the San Diego game. The fouls were being committed.
Well, San Diego, they'll just pass around. Oh,
excuse me. That was Charlotte. They had 11 fouls
and 54%. So they were the better team in that
home game that they lost to Charlotte. tied to
Charlotte. It just feels like a loss when you
tie it home. Am I a mess today? Well, and also,
I mean, Charlotte isn't very good, are they?
I think they're a good team. I mean, we're two
games in. I mean, we're two games in. No, here's
the thing, though. The majority of the league
voted Saha as the most overrated player. That
sucks. Yeah, Saha's not it. I mean, I think he's
a good player. I think he is just really annoying
and not in a, like, I hustle a lot. He's not
Ozzy Alonzo. He's like a pest that gets under
your skin kind of annoying. And so I think maybe
they did that for being like that. Because, I
mean, watching that game, you saw him lose his
head a few times in that St. Louis game, but
you also saw the impact he had on the field.
Like, it was, he made them a much better team.
Yeah. I feel like there's players who are like,
bro, why are you acting like this when you haven't
won nothing in England? I mean, this is all about
teams, right? Like you have players that come
from abroad that have made millions and millions
of dollars and they're going up against guys
that are making at the time for the Sounders
were making like $75 ,000, $50 ,000. And they're
both putting it in practice. And maybe they're
getting outplayed by a guy who's making significantly
less money. And so. MLS, you can't really be
a prima donna with most of these teams anymore.
Well, we've seen it happen with Obin and the
whole Los Amigos from Miami. Obin was making,
I don't know how much he was making, but he was
making nowhere near the amount of money that
Suarez. I mean, when he pointed and laughed at
Suarez. I still have that picture. What were
you going to say, Cedar? Yeah, this is the beauty
of MLS, right? You get college kids, you know,
who went to like UConn and Duke and UW up against
some of the, you know, the most revered players
of all time in this league. And, you know, it's
always interesting, right? It's not, it's never
like, oh, you know, like we have personally watched
Messi and, you know. the Barca boys just absolutely
fail against us. You know, I mean, where else
are you going to see that? That's why, that's
why I watch him a lot. Shout out to Ryan sailor.
I, I'm, I was jokingly giving him a hard time.
Like, would I go to the white house? Probably
not. But let's say this, it was a chance to go
hang out with messy. It was a go, a chance to
go hang out with the friends on a team. And that,
that they probably gave him his ring when he
got there. So, because he doesn't play for them
anymore. So yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I, I don't
think I would go see the president, but not everyone
is as political as me, so I'm not going to get
down on an individual player for that. Here's
my take. Again, if it's a team decision, then
that's a team decision. Is it his current team?
No, but he did play for Inter -Miami from 2022
to 2025. He had 44 appearances in that time.
Last season, he had five appearances and one
start. right so again this is this is what we're
talking about he's he's a he's a you know a a
kind of fringe mls player right i if i were him
you know and and again like i get it like i i
don't know if i would make the same decision
but i can understand The thought process of being
like, no, I want to go get my ring. I mean, it's
easy for me to say that, yeah, as never having
been in a position to go collect something from,
I think, except for maybe George W. Bush. In
the past, if I were, I mean, I met Bill Clinton.
I didn't love him. I think he's the greatest
Republican president we've ever had. I know you're
going to say he's not a Republican. Yes, he was.
Look at his policies. I think there was an honor
to meeting the president, no matter who it was.
I think that honor is just not there anymore.
Yeah. There's no more decorum. And I will disagree
with you on Bill Clinton being the greatest Republican
president, the greatest Republican president
we've ever had. It was Obama. Obama was all time.
Great. You know, best Republican. Yeah. Right.
Well, that's the, that's the real goat. But,
uh, uh, Also, the other thing too is I know like
next to nothing about Ryan Saylor. Yeah. He's
27. He went to UW, right? He was local. Yeah,
he went to UW. Yeah, he had 49 appearances for
UW. He was there from 2016 to 2021. In his youth
career, he was – so he's from Colorado. He was
born in Centennial, Colorado. He's 27 years old.
This is funny. youth career the team that he
played for was real colorado so i i don't know
about the whole like oh you know real salt lake
real colorado like i and that feels just a little
bit that's a team in centennial colorado it turns
out so that was his local youth team i think
that's right playing for east but i just the
whole like oh you know like let's name like What
if we were Real Seattle? Thankfully, that was
not one of the options. In fact, Seattle Sounders
was not one of the options. Do you know this?
Yeah, everybody was like, no. We all wrote in
Seattle Sounders. Everyone who had put in for
season tickets got the vote. It was Seattle Alliance,
Seattle Republic. Or Seattle FC. Yeah, it was
Seattle FC, Alliance FC, and Republic FC. They
weren't going to put Seattle in it at all. That's
kind of funny. And then everyone wrote in Seattle
Sounders. Thank God for that. I think it was
not going to be associated with the minor league
team. Although Adrian was an owner, it was supposed
to be a new team. And they said, no, we want
Seattle Sounders. And it was so overwhelming
that they went with it. Well, we lucked out.
uh i i i get why mls is the joke of the soccer
world for many reasons one of one of them is
just like the wonky names like we're literally
it's we're literally like the technical like
we are the seattle sounders fc right and we're
playing against st louis city sc st louis city
soccer club or a football club playing against
a soccer club in major league soccer i mean and
you know for me football and soccer is interchangeable
because do you know why it's called soccer in
the u .s do you know that yes it's because that's
what it was called in england at the time yes
exactly because again well so so yeah so Because
it's a type of football. It's association football.
That differentiates it from gridiron football.
And why do you call it a football? Well, because
at a certain point, most sports were only played
by rich dudes. Rich college kids. Yeah, it was
like polo and like, you know, it was like all
like horse based sports. Right. Because, you
know, back in the day, I mean, it's still true.
Like if you own a horse, you're doing pretty
well. But so to differentiate them, it was like,
oh, OK, what games are played on foot? That's
why, like, you know, American football gets some
stick for, you know, like, oh, you know, you're
handling it. Yeah, but they're. You're playing
it on foot, guys. You're playing it on foot,
right? Nobody's on a horse here. Imagine them
playing football on a horse. Sam Darnold on a
horse throwing a 6 -yard dot of JSN on a horse.
I think I've seen some AI mock -ups of Sam Darnold
on a horse. In this upcoming... polo ball match,
are the Sounders going to beat St. Louis? I think
out of all of the games we've got coming up until
we return back to Lumen Field, I think this feels
like it should be the most winnable one. That's
crazy considering you're playing San Jose, but
you know what? I agree with you because Timo
Werner is already having a huge impact in San
Jose. San Jose's been playing good even before
Timo. Yeah, and then they added him. I mean,
I hate, hate, hate Bruce Arena. But you know
what? There's a reason he's a legend. Yeah, he's
a good coach. And look, the teams they've played
so far, I don't have them right here in front
of me, but it's not like they're beating the
best teams in the league. And they play Philly
this weekend, who usually I would say is an interesting
matchup for them. But Philadelphia looked terrible
the other day. San Jose. Beat Atlanta 2 -0 and
beat sporting KC 3 -0. But KC didn't look bad
in their next game. I think we talked about that
and how bad they are. But they play San Diego
next match, so we'll see. But KC ended up their
second game tying Columbus 3 -2. Columbus is
just not looking good. At home. I mean, are they
not good? It's so early. That's the hard part.
The kick -based assets, no. They lost to Portland
in the first match. I guess if you lose to Portland,
we can say you're not good. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't watch enough of these teams to really
be, you know. But you know what? I'm going to
give my opinion anyway. I think – You don't need
to be informed. We're Americans, damn it. We
don't need to be informed. We can say what we
want. Born in the U .S. Yeah. I'm not going to
budge, right? What's the thing from It's Always
Sunny? I'm going to stick to – Yeah, wild card.
You got to stick to your gun. Yeah, I think this
is probably our easiest chance at three points,
especially because it's just like game after
game after game. We play on Saturday, then on
Thursday, then on Sunday, then on Wednesday.
I feel like at Vancouver we have to play for
a tie so that we can win it in Spokane. 100%.
Spokane is going to be a very green crowd. Sold
out game. It's going to be wild. They got ECS
traveling over. So it's going to be rowdy. I
think the Spokane fans with those Zephyr and
what's the men's team called? I forget. Velocity?
Yeah, Velocity. Their fans are going to show
up, and I think they're going to get into it,
and they'll be there chanting with ECS. I mean,
it's a small stadium. It's going to be wild.
I wish I'd been able to. put together a way to
go but i did not want to drive back that night
and i did not want to pay for a hotel room and
my sister has cats so i can't stay with her because
i'm allergic so uh it was like no i can't i can't
make this happen but i think that's going to
be such a cool experience for sounders fans yeah
i just hate that it's during the middle of the
week yeah i mean we're like make it if it's a
friday it's more doable they'll have weekend
games there for the rain maybe we got to go over
for a rain game Maybe. You can come pick me up
on the way there. Yeah, you're on the way. Although
I will see you on Sunday. I'll be in your town.
Fun fact for, I believe this is true, for CONCACAF
Champions Cup games. If you don't have, I don't
even know what they're streaming on, but if you
don't have whatever it is, Fubo or Whichever
channel is carrying it. If you have a VPN, you
can set it to England and then watch the live
stream from CONCACAF's YouTube channel. Oh, that's
great. Yeah. Especially considering my IPTV just
got busted, so I no longer have access to watching
every single... I could watch National League
games from England, meaning the league that's
in League 2. Wow. My team, the vegan team, Forest
Green Rovers, got relegated two seasons in a
row and fell back down to the National League.
I've been watching their games there. But it
just apparently is gone after I just upped it
for another six months. Did it fold? You know,
there's questionable legality with online streams
for IPTV. Oh, sure. But if LeBron does it...
i mean yeah can't we all do it that's our right
maybe if i use a vpn and say i'm not in america
i can get there so we'll see but yeah vpns have
been a great source of watching matches i uh
2006 world cup i used it a lot to watch matches
when i couldn't it was before you could stream
espn or whatever it was on oh wow i would use
it to stream european broadcasts because i was
in uh i was studying for the bar exam so i'd
be in bar class and then i would pull it up and
watch games Boy, I didn't even know they had
VPNs back then. Yeah, usually it would be through
the browser. It wasn't a separate app. So you
could tell the people you were in a different
place. So anything you pulled up in the browser
would come up differently. Same idea, right?
It's just you're going through the internet pipeline.
I had a hardwired VPN for a while because being
a lawyer, I thought it was an easy way to protect
my client stuff and prevent hacking. But as the
internet got faster, the hardware was not. Keeping
up with my two gigabit internet that I have now.
It was too powerful. I don't know if you heard,
Cedar, since we're at the end of the show, maybe
we'll... We didn't get Alex's prediction real
quick. Alex, what's the sounder score going to
be? Shoot. I don't know. I'm peer pressuring
you into thinking we're going to win. What's
the score going to be? No, I'm going to be a
little pessimistic. I think we draw 1 -1. Okay.
I'm okay with that. I'm going with 2 -0. Just
because I'm looking at St. Louis' roster, and
I recognize a few names, but I just don't. That
was my fault. That was my fault. Every time Cedar
speaks, I'm just like, it's because I was hitting
back to try and make, uh, go back to the roster
for, uh, for St. Louis. And because I, then I,
Oh, right. Right. And so I went back on this
screen instead of on my second screen. It went
back out of here. So, uh, Cedar, you were saying.
that you look at their roster and you don't see
anyone that scares you, essentially. Yeah, I
mean, you know, like, yeah, just really... Negative
two goal differentials so far, but zero at home.
Yeah, they've got guys such as Jazeel Orozco,
Conrad Wallum, Dante Pulvara, Chris Durkin. Simon
Betcher. I've heard some of these names before.
I think he's a good player. I know the St. Louis
people get annoyed by him. I don't like him because
our former mayor, who was such a jerk, her last
name was Durkin. Right. And so I get annoyed.
You know, Marcel Hartel is pretty good. Yeah.
Roman Berkey. But I would say Roman Berkey is
the key here. It's like with Roman Berkey, they're
always going to be in a game. Right. But as we
saw, as we saw RSL do against us, I mean, both
those goals were, you know, there wasn't really
anything Thomas can do. That's what we need to
do. We need to, we need to take it out of the
keeper's hands. And muffin top model trying to
hate on Andrew Thomas as if he could have gotten
to that ball. Come on now, man. Come on. I will
not stand for no Thomas Slander. I mean, if he
deserves it, sure, but no, he did not deserve
it on those two goals. I mean, come on, especially
the second goal. Oh, Fry would have saved that.
No, he wouldn't have because his reflexes are
even slower than Andrew's. And that's not a hit
on Fry. That's just reality. Like Fry, that was
the one knock on him last season was his reflexes
weren't quite the same as they've been in the
past, which happens when you get older. That's
why when I play Fortnite with Alex. He kills
so many more people than I because his eyes and
his brain are young and fresh. And I keep accidentally
hitting back and cutting off the podcast in the
middle of the podcast. So, you know, hand -eye
coordination and the way your brain works and
how fast you can react matters. And the older
you get, the worse you get at it. I think he's
just going through a midlife crisis and he's
trying to cope. Could be. I will say this about
Andrew Thomas. I am curious to see how... He
commands his defense over a full season. Week
in, week out. And not the same players, right?
Because of injuries and stuff, he's going to
have to go through different center backs. The
other area where I see potential weakness is
sometimes his ball distribution just seems a
little like... Sometimes he seems a little bit...
over eager you know sometimes he seems a little
bit twitchy in terms of what he's you know how
he's gonna put the ball back into play and i
just see i don't i don't know maybe i'm just
misremembering but it feels like there have been
one or two kind of you know almost near miss
situations where he's put the ball back into
play and it's a little like oh like you know
there's there's uh there's you know an opponent
an opposing player, like right there could have
almost like stepped in to get it. You know, like
I I'm, I'm just early fry times though. He was,
there was a time where he ran way over to the
right and was almost to the sideline and then
kicked it centrally at Vancouver. And then Vancouver
was just like, thanks open goal and kicked it
right. Yeah. I think it's something that you
learn learning curve. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Sure,
he's managed defenses. Sure, he – I mean, it's
the beginning of the season. It's his first time
starting. There's probably a lot going on in
his head. I'm confident with Tommy Dutra as the
coach that our goalies will be successful no
matter who's back there. Yes. Yes. And I think
that – Sorry to cut you off, but I think that
– Yeah, cut each other off. Yeah, scuttlebutt.
Fuck you, Alex. Catch me on Fortnite. No, I just
think that – Fry tends to slow down the game.
And there's moments for that. But sometimes when
we have a sense of urgency, he still slows down
the game. And then with Thomas, there's times
where he needs to slow down the game, but he's
just playing at a high tempo, fast pace. He's
just eager to be out there because he's been
waiting so long to be the starter. And I just
think over time, he's just going to learn. When's
the time to play fast? When's the time to slow
down? pick his passes it's just something that
like you can only in practice you can do it all
the time but it's doing it differently in the
game yeah it's it's it's much different nice
yeah yeah um i'm happy with that i'll say one
one final score sounders clearly the better team
but berkey stops us Don't get that second goal.
I'd like to come out with three points, but I
think one is probably realistic. Then I'll be
happy if we get more than that. Cedar, I don't
know if we've talked about this on the Ultras
text feed, text channel. What do you call that?
A group text. But tomorrow starts the Seattle
Supertalk season. So if you want to come out
7 p .m. at Seattle Pacific, that'll be tonight.
It depends on when you listen to this. I'll probably
get this up around midnight. So tonight, if you're
listening to this on the day it came out, the
A's and Founders are playing St. Louis. First
game of the new season, new league, USBL, Superhawks,
and most of the West Coast teams left the TBL
and now have a new league. And the Superhawks
have recently signed Jonte Porter from the Toronto
Raptors as a new player because he's banned for
life from the NBA for gambling. And so he's going
to come play for us. And then at the same time,
Gary Payton's junior college in Oakland had their
season canceled. So Gary Payton is our new assistant
coach. No way. Awesome. So Gary, we had all the
games. And so, you know, we already had some
exciting players, but you bring in Jonte Porter,
who of course went to Nathan Hale high school
in Seattle when, when his dad was going to be
on the. Basically, he and his brother got recruited
to Washington, and then Romar got fired, so they
left and went back home to Missouri. Played at
Nathan Hale. Brandon Roy should be in the house
for the game because he was Jaunte's coach. I
think it's going to be a fun season. There's
going to be a lot of stuff going on. Fortunately,
there is no Northern California team. There was
a San Jose team in the TBL for a while, but I
think the closest is probably LA for you, sadly.
I was hoping we'd get a game where I'd come down
to the Bay Area. and with the super Hawks, but
yeah, check out Seattle super Hawks .com as our
basketball season starts. It's going to be super
fun season. It's all games available for free.
I believe right now, I know for sure that if
you go to the Hulu channel and search USB L go
to Hulu, like the app or on your Hulu device
and search USB L you can pull up the games and
watch them live. Nice. I believe it's going to
be on Amazon Firestick and the other stuff as
well. I don't know if it's there yet. I'm just
in charge of creating the broadcast, not where
it goes. So are you calling games? No, no, no,
no. I could, in theory, do color commentary,
but for longtime listeners of the show know that
my very first collaboration with Aaron back in
the day was during COVID. when Jackson Feltz
and I called all time Supersonics versus all
time Oklahoma City Thunder players and Supersonics
won the series. And it was tough. It didn't it
didn't help that that, you know, Jackson and
I are friends and know each other, but we'd never
called a game before. So and not being next to
each other, being across the screen from each
other is hard. There's a lot of me telling random
stories and then being like, yes. But yeah, I
mean, it was, um, that was the first thing I
ever did with Aaron before the podcast even existed.
Cause he did the same thing with Jackson and
was a Ryan Harvey, someone, someone, they did
it with, uh, they, when the 2020 season was put
on hold and canceled, but then changed, he was
going through all of the Sounders games through
FIFA and making them, uh, simulated and then
having Jackson and the other guy call the game.
So, Oh, nice. Kind of funny that then Jackson
ended up being one of the actual broadcasters
of the Sounders later. I mean, yeah, Sounders
later. And then we did that Sonics thing. So
I'm not calling it. We've got Nick Beckman who
calls Seattle U's games. He calls all of, I believe
he's on the announcing and not on the PA, but
he could be doing both for Metro League and for
the state basketball championships. So he calls
the games. Should be super fun. We lost Cedar.
I think he did it too. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, Cedar.
Hey. I'm going to stop. Let's say goodbye. I
think that's a good point. We've been talking
for a while. Technical difficulties. I got to
edit this and I got to convince Alex to play
some Fortnite. Hey, what are you doing here,
Alex? Isn't this date night? Oh, that's what
I'm trying to figure out right now. I might just
go over. No, today was my dad's birthday. We
had to take him out to eat. Oh, what'd you guys
do for dad? I took him out to Olive Garden. He
enjoys the fish over there. Do they do all -you
-can -eat fish, or is that only the pasta side
of it? That's only the pasta side. Hopefully
you got all -you -can -eat breadsticks, though.
No, you don't. I eat the breadsticks. Perfect.
Sounds like a good deal. You know what they say,
when you're at Olive Garden, you're eating fresh
Italian food, just like they make in Italy all
the time. I did see a pretty... That's true.
I saw a funny interview between, I think it was
Timothy Weah, and it wasn't Pulisic, it was another
player that's also playing in Italy, where they
were like, the food in America is so much better.
They're like, they said, look, no, Italian food
is great. The thing is, there's zero variety.
So if you go to the Italian restaurant next door
or the one down the block or the one in another
city, the same dish will taste the same at every
single place. Versus in America, you go to one
burger spot, another burger spot, another burger
spot. Every one of those burgers is going to
be different. And then you have so many other
options besides just burgers, whereas there you
just have good Italian options. Oh, no, go ahead.
I was just going to say, yes, true, but also
so many restaurants now. uh just get their food
from cisco i mean i think i read or heard something
like cisco has never had more business like post
-pandemic i didn't even know he was still rapping
hey what's funny is that my buddy jesus um one
that i mentioned earlier he worked for cisco
really yeah well they're they're moving stuff
they're uh they're uh They're supplying the food
for a lot of businesses. You guys see the video
of the McDonald's CEO eating the Big Arch burger?
Oh, I saw it popped up, but I didn't realize
what... Because Burger King was talking about
it. Did he hate it? Is that why it was such a
big deal? No, he just took like a little nibble
and he was saying, mmm, such a big bite. And
he shows his bite and it's just like that much.
So then Burger King comes in and the CEO eats
the whole burger. And then Wendy's decided to
jump in too. Yeah, Wendy's knows what's up. And
then my buddy was like, oh, we just need Arby's
to come and say, we have the meat. I did see
a pretty funny video. I think I sent it to you,
Alex, of a guy who was unhappy with his Burger
King order. So he made a diss track saying McDonald's
is better to a Tupac song. So it was pretty good.
Yeah. It's pretty fun stuff. So, yeah, let's
get out of here. We've had technical difficulties
galore, and yet I think everything worked out.
We'll find out. But in a show that usually has
two takes before and after the ad, we're now
at five takes. We're just giving you more. You're
getting your money's worth. Our host decided
to hit the back button a couple times. Nope,
nope. Don't pull on me. You can catch us. I'm
sure there'll be a new episode with Nick and
Aaron coming up soon. But in the meantime, you
can catch me and Alex and Cedar on the discord,
come and join it. It's super fun. Sounder scuttlebutt.
We'll be there talking during the games, talking
between games. There's also talk about everything
else. We talk about other Seattle sports teams,
other sports teams in general, just, you know,
it's, it's a pretty interesting place. Just be
really careful to not talk about the origins
of French language because some people sometimes
go off. Yeah. Let's keep it nice and respectful
in the chat. Well, I will say, you studied the
French language. I have a degree in French. Right,
Cameron? Well, there you go. I'm going to defer
to you if I have any disputes or any questions
about that. Croissant. But I'm excited, guys.
There we go. Get ready. Alex, we need you to
put like a Sounders flag behind you or something
some way so that when you're, I mean, when people,
when we pivot the video, we're going to have
a beautiful background behind Cedar with cars
going by and we get to see the streets of San
Francisco in their green. And behind me I've
got Jason Wilson and an Xbox fridge and Baby
Yoda and a slurpy Funko and the character who
dresses up as Santa Claus from Silent Night,
Deadly Night. And is that Detective Pikachu?
I don't know. There's a bunch of – and a guitar
and a bass guitar. All those are just keyboard.
Yeah, keyboard. That's an organ. That is a –
We're starting a band, guys. Yeah. cousin's old
boss who got it from uh the keyboardist in minus
the bear uh and it originally was an organ that
belonged to uh the animals like house of the
rising sun oh wow so uh somehow has found its
way to me uh and i played it in bands for a little
while now it sits behind me like that no what
i what i'd have behind me is the world cup trophy
Yeah. Oh, your birthday. You got to wait till
your birthday to get that, right? Shit. It'll
be a while. I think by the time we're on video,
we'll be past that. We might be in video in a
couple weeks, yo. We keep losing episodes. We
are jumping ship, Squadcast. We are jumping ship.
Yeah, we alluded to it earlier. We lost two and
a half episodes to Squadcast not properly uploading.
We did kind of figure out how to get two of those
episodes back, but... uh not a fun time so we
had so many brilliant takes that you unfortunately
missed as an audience and um you'll just have
to imagine how great they are if you want to
know more about it go to the go to the uh you
know discord join us in there we say cool stuff
there go to the patreon we'll drop the episodes
there i mean i've done that in the past i think
didn't i drop an entire episode there without
nick's voice because we lost his track so it's
just no nick and it's just me Well, it's just
like the episode you guys just did where he was
at work. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but he was on screen
for us that entire time, but only popped in for
a few seconds. To clarify one or two things.
Yeah. So he was not popping in and out. That
would have been a problem for Squadcast, apparently.
So we'll see if this episode survives. Fingers
crossed. Shout out to all our listeners. What
was that, Alex? I hope so. Shout out to our listeners.
Shout out to the friends and family. And most
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