He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the point
I can't say is CHEAT! Welcome to Sounders Scuttlebutt.
Hello. I didn't know how to do the intro. It
sounded good to me. Okay, good. Yeah, it's been...
Who are you? It's been since just before my birthday.
Aaron Lingley's birthday in November. Since I've
been able to pop on. Not that we've had a lot
of shows, but the ultras, thank you guys. Thank
you, Cameron, for keeping a little bit of energy
going on the airwaves. They're excited. I'm excited.
We had a good start to the season. Wonky game,
but I'll take the three points. Tied for the
longest first half in MLS history. 62 minutes
or something stupid. 61, I think. Yeah. So, yeah,
Sounders won their first match of the season,
and Champions Cup is going on. Yeah. What? I
was like, 61, is that right? Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. Champions Cup's going on. There's some
matches today. You'll catch us up on that. We
have our match in Spokane. The website still
has, the schedule still has to be determined.
TBC, to be called. What is that supposed to be?
you know who it is and i don't know who it is
so that you'll surprise you'll surprise me here
shortly um yeah this is exciting i'm glad to
get back on i got a drink ready um although i
did drink my last two beers already because my
dog had diarrhea and she's a 75 pound black lab
and i had to clean that up so I wanted to, I
needed some alcohol. So tell me more about the
great, the great things about owning animals.
Right. Yeah. My wife was kind enough to be like,
you can have my rosé bubbles. So I have my apres
rosé, rosé bubbles that I got her at BevMo. What's,
what's worse, the dog or the baby? Oh, the dog,
dude. Diarrhea on a rug. Are you kidding me?
At least the babies are contained. Like we, we.
we mitigate mess with babies. We have diapers.
Um, Margo's not a baby anymore, man. She's two,
two on Valentine's day. She's still crapping
her pants, but, um, yeah, shit. And I haven't,
I mean, we haven't really spoken in a few like,
like this in a few months either. So yeah, times
are changing over here, down here in San Diego.
Still weird to say that anyway, Cameron Collins.
How are you, my friend? Doing good. I'm ready
to open up my club soda, which I'm going to do
real quick. Oh, that sounded nice. Open my apres
rose. That sounded nice too. I mean, it's rose.
All right. Sounders are back. It's been about
time. I tell you what, until the game started,
I kept feeling like, why are we back already?
It's cold out. It's rainy. It's February. This
is too soon. And as soon as the game started,
I was like, where have we been all this time?
We should have been back like a week after we
stopped playing. Yeah. I mean, it was, I mean,
we went out in the first round too. So with the
gap in the playoffs, we were out like a month
before the MLS cup, which was still in December.
And now it's February near the end. So yeah,
almost four months. Because of the World Cup
break, it's going to be like December 18th this
time. Serious? Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, yeah,
no, I mean, it's been a minute. It's been, and
I feel like the off season, we haven't obviously
had an off season episode, but it was fairly
quiet from a Sounders standpoint. We had some
departures that are notable. You brought it up
in the Ultras episode. I listened to that. Obviously,
that's Obed. That's Danny Leyva. But we brought
in some fun names, actually. We're sticking to
the locals, kind of in the Kellen Rowe -esque
kind of signing with Sonny Dotson, right? And
we brought up... Should have. Yeah, should have
counted. I mean, they didn't count it, but...
Yeah. Yeah, so... I mean, I don't know where
you want to start. Should we do... Do we want
to jump into Champions League? Do we want to
jump into a little offseason stuff? Yeah, let's
do a little scuttlebutt before we get to Sounders.
Shout out to Nicholas Biela, too. You know, he's
here in spirit. I mean, literally. Ah, no! His
face just appeared. He's working, so we just
had him pop on screen. He chose to be in the
wings. Whoa. We had a... I think the first thing
to talk about, and I don't know how much you've
been following what's been going on, but Messi
going after the referees in the match against
LA at the Rose Bowl. And he did not go into a...
area that was um like he didn't go in the locker
room so it was okay so he got no suspension but
there was an article today and maybe the athletic
or one of uh you know i wish i had it in front
of me it was on my other computer but basically
saying we need to talk about messy and and how
this arguing with the refs and this fighting
with them has gone on and on uh and it's so fascinating
because he thinks that they get reffed unfairly
and then everyone else thinks miami miami gets
all the calls so Interesting. Watching all the
games, I think it's usually the East Coast teams
being insufferable and complaining and whining,
and they don't get all the calls. But also, they
don't get calls against them. I don't see that
too much. I mean, as a Sounders fan who we constantly
get refs against us, it's hard for me to be like,
yeah, we don't. Because we get screwed way more
than I ever see Miami get screwed. Sorry, there's
a dog outside. I don't know if the listeners
can, but I could. Since his arrival, they've
pretty much been favored. But the stats don't
bear that out, is the interesting thing. The
amount of fouls given, that type of stuff doesn't
bear that out. Maybe, and I haven't looked at
this, you could argue that they're getting more
calls in positions that allow them to score more.
I don't know about that. uh more dangerous positions
or in in times of the game that are important
that other teams aren't but i don't i don't i
don't see it as egregious either way uh but i
do want to talk about the ref in our game so
we'll we'll wait there uh but i don't know are
you are you sick of messy people are sick of
them now yeah i'm not i mean we beat them so
if And that's like the only, when he first joined,
like I added on season pass, like Miami, right?
I'm like, I got to watch the, I got to watch
Messi and MLS. So I want those games tagged.
That faded last year. I didn't give a shit. Obviously,
I think the only game I watched of Miami in full,
other than, you know, just catching highlights
and stuff was the league's cup final because
they were playing us. So I don't really have
much to say. It's not bothering me because, but
I'm not putting myself in a position to be annoyed.
So I default to you if he's, and I trust your
judgment if he's being annoying, but I can imagine.
He's not there for me yet. But I think some of
it's driven by messy haters and they don't like
the fact that he's brought so many more eyes
to the league. And now we have bigger player.
I mean, I don't think Antoine Griezmann is coming
to the MLS. if not for a player like Messi coming.
Because Griezmann has years left where he could
still be playing in Europe, and yet it looks
like he's signing for Orlando. Really? Yeah.
It's kind of crazy. Of course, we want him here
since he's a big J -Rod fan, but I don't think
it's going to happen, sadly. Why don't we move
on to Champions Cup? Yeah, I guess that's where
I kind of sit. It's just like I'm not a hater.
I don't really hate any. I don't hate like I
used to. I used to hate really like... Who's
the guy that... Will Johnson? No, I still hate
him. He doesn't play. Sideshow Bob. Still hate
him, I guess. He's our coach. I know. It's so
weird. I forgot about that. I hate him as a player.
He got suspended in the fight against Miami.
That's hilarious. So he's still got it. He's
like a Richard Sherman. I hate him when he's
not on our team, I guess. Yeah, let's move on
to Champions Cup just because I know we got not
limited time, but we want to make the most of
our time so that your wife can go to bed. Yeah,
I'm in our room. Yeah, I mean, so let's talk
about this second leg of the first round and
we'll go back to... Some of the older matches,
which happened a while ago, or just to remind
people that Pumas went, or I mean, San Diego
went through 4 -2 on aggregate against Pumas.
Tigres went through 4 -1 on aggregate against
Forge. Club America went through 2 -1 on aggregate
versus Olympia. And there's two more. Monterey
went through 3 -1 against Jelahu. I guess. I
don't know how to say that team's name. And Cruz
Azul went through 8 -0 after a 5 -0 win against
Vancouver FC, who I was really hoping the Sounders
would play at some point. I like Vancouver FC.
That is, of course, not the Whitecaps. That is
the Canadian Premier League team. You remember
that beautiful Sakura cherry blossom jersey?
That was their team that did that. Yesterday,
here's the games that matter. Yesterday, Nashville
destroyed Ottawa. It was just goal after goal
after goal. And Nashville had won 2 -0 in Ottawa,
but it was 5 -0 yesterday in Nashville. Reed
Baker Whiting started the game at right mid,
which was pretty cool to see. I think that's
probably where he would have played more for
the Sounders if we didn't end up with 46 wingers
on our team, because that's why they brought
him up originally from the defiance, was to kind
of have a little more space in the right and
be able to play more over there. And then it
didn't really work out. So Nashville goes through.
LAFC beat Real España 1 -0 after that 6 -1 drubbing
in the first round. Went through 7 -1 on aggregate.
Earlier today, Universidad ONM got a red card
in the 86th minute. They only allowed one goal
after that. And they lost 9 -0 to Cincinnati,
which is wow. So 13 -0 on aggregate. That is
pretty wild. LA Galaxy just scoring against Sporting
San Miguelito right now. At least it just popped
up here. A minute ago, Gabriel Peck scored to
put LA Galaxy up 1 -0. And I don't know what
their first round is. It's not telling me right
now, unfortunately. But that is an interesting
match going on. And of course, the big one. After
a 0 -0 draw at Cartagena on February 18th, today,
Vancouver beat Cartagena 2 -0 to be traveling
to Spokane. on, what, the 28th or 26th? When's
that match? You said it earlier. 18th? March
18th? Okay. Yeah, today is the 25th. March 18th,
Vancouver FC will be playing at Seattle Sounders
in the next round of CONCACAF Champions Cup.
Philadelphia versus Defense Forces tomorrow.
I wonder, it's been snowing on the East Coast.
I wonder if it got delayed or if they are just
playing on a Thursday. I don't know. Did you
say the galaxy game was still going on? It looks
like it's full time. 34th minute right now. One,
nothing. Sporting SM. Oh, that's February 19th.
I'm stupid. Yeah. You're looking at, you're looking
at the first game, which was one, one at sporting
SM. So galaxy. Oh, did they take away the goal?
It's back to zero, zero. They may have taken
away that goal. We will see. I don't have the
game on live. I should probably throw it on.
I should also shout out to Santa Clara university
basketball, the men's basketball team. If they
win today against St. Mary's, they will finish
second in the WCC and likely go to the NCAA tournament,
which I can't say they have done since they had
Steve Nash. So I'm really excited for the possibility
that my alma mater might be going to the NCAA
tournament for the first time. And since I was
in probably middle school. Maybe high school.
I can't remember what years those were, but it's
been a while. I don't know. But yeah, pretty
wild. Seattle U folded down the stretch, but
I have all my teams in the WCC right now, Seattle
U and Santa Clara. Unfortunately, Santa Clara
is currently down by six at halftime. So Vancouver,
huh? Yeah, I mean, it's what we expected. I didn't
think the other team was going to go through,
right? The first game kind of gave us hope, but
I mean, the goals were from Kenji Cabrera in
the 58th minute, and then Burr Halter scored
in the 80th. Unfortunately, it doesn't count
towards my fantasy team where I picked Burr Halter.
Does the bracket recede at all or anything, or
is this the path? No, this is the path. So we
know that we were going to play the winner of
Cartagena's versus Vancouver. Okay. And Tigris
is likely playing Cincinnati. Yeah, they are
playing Cincinnati 13. Sorry. You said that 13,
13, 13 nil on aggregate. Likely it's likely that
they might play them. You know, they, they, they
won both. Yeah. So. Champions Cup, I think our
path is not an easy one. What's our path after
Vancouver? It's likely Tigris, right? Well, I
mean, Cincinnati's not terrible. Or Cincinnati,
either way. And that would be the semifinals?
I would pick Tigris out of that one. Yeah, that
would be in the round of 16 is there. So semifinals
would be us and Tigris should we get past Vancouver.
And Miami, America, they're slated. So is it,
would you say Philadelphia? Yeah, definitely
Philadelphia. They're up 5 -0 in their first
leg. And then Ottawa, we already mentioned that.
Rita Baker Whiting thrashed them. Yeah, and Nashville.
I mean, I'm guessing Miami comes out of the other
side. Yeah, so Miami beats Nashville. America
versus Philadelphia. Hey, Philadelphia, America,
very patriotic matchup. Probably America out
of that one. Oh, but LAFC would then be in, what,
Miami's bracket? I don't see LAFC on this side.
Oh, they're on our side. I mean, then. They're
on the other side of the bracket. Yeah. Interesting.
So just curious who we'd play in the final if
we made it that far, but never fun to have to
play some of these teams that have. Much better
player in the Sounders, but thankfully we have
a better coach and maybe more spirit than those
teams. Sometimes that's all you need. If I was
just going to like, look, I mean, Sandy, it's
weird to say San Diego is like a wow. We're just
not used to them. And I live here. But I mean,
they can't really be a wild card at this point.
I would normally pick Monterey or LAFC or even
I feel like Galaxy are going to be much better
this year. I mean, it's. kind of hard not to
be. But I think I'd have to pick probably San
Diego to make it. I mean, the Pumas are no slouch,
right? And they beat them 5 -2? No, 4 -2. Yeah,
4 -2. But that first game, the 3 -1 game, they
were down 1 -0. And as soon as they allowed,
they got the first goal, San Diego, and then
they got the second, and then Pumas fell apart.
Like they should have never allowed the third
goal. So I don't think that was a case of San
Diego being the better team in that match. Still
won the... Oh, sure. Still won. I mean, of all
these matchups, right? That's probably the toughest
matchup. You look at all these, there's obviously
these clubs we've never heard before. Maybe on
that side, I am much more worried about Miami
than I am San Diego. Oh, I'm just saying, I was
trying to see who we'd meet in the final, like
you were thinking, right? So, and I'm thinking
it might have to be... I can see that happening.
They play probably LA Galaxy in the semifinals.
And based on the bracket, Monterey and LAFC are
on the other quadrant of that bracket. But I
think we'd make it too. Tigris would be a battle,
but that'd be fun. And we're not scared of any
Mexican cities, clubs. Interesting. Club America,
Tigris, and Monterey all sit at, uh lower in
the table seventh eighth and ninth monterey has
ten points three one and three uh tigris has
ten points three one and three and club america
is three two and two so uh obviously a long ways
to go but uh you know cruz azul pumas and guadalajara
chivas guadalajara at the top with toluca down
there and forth you know i kind of like toluca
and pachuca i like these smaller The 18 teams,
those teams usually see near the top or down
a little bit, which is cool for Champions League.
Yeah, like you said, there's a long way to go.
We're probably not in the semifinals for three
or four months. Yeah, Tijuana has seven games
played, one win, one loss, and five draws. That's
wild. Remember when Portland was draw city that
one year? It was a while ago now. Yeah, that
one year is a decade ago. Yeah. So that's champions
league. Um, it'd be interesting. Definitely,
uh, tickets for, uh, if you're listening to this,
um, now that means tickets are already on sale
for Sounders fans. Uh, if you're listening to
this, I'm like, well, there might be some tickets
left. Uh, they go on sale tomorrow morning. Please
do email. Uh, so you can, you can, uh, go. Go
check if there's any tickets left, small stadium.
And I heard their season ticket holders of the
two teams out of there got some tickets as well,
allotted to them, which is pretty cool. Pretty
cool. I'm just trying to see. I know Vancouver
won in their, their first match, but, and they're
just, they've, they've been a slow burn, right?
Right. They're, they're a good team now. Yeah,
no, they are. Oh, I forgot the other big news
today. The other big news. Not excited about
it. Dennis Buonga signs a contract extension
through 2028 with an option through the 2930
season. Yeah, not ideal. He looked like he was
going to be sold to Mexico or no, Brazil, I think
it was. I guess that's not happening. So we are
going to continue to be terrorized by Buwanga.
I don't know why I couldn't say the word terrorized.
Exactly. Totally exactly right. I feel like most
of our listeners are of our generation. They
probably know that. Except for Alex. That's true.
Alex, do you know what that reference was? I
don't think he was born when that movie came
out. He definitely was not born when that movie
came out. I think he was born after nine 11.
Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. I was watching a video that
talked about like the, like difficult movies
to watch. And one of them, I've never seen it,
but was the nine 11 movie. It was at United 91
about the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania.
And I don't, I've never watched it. Just, it's
not of interest to me, but they were talking
about the youngest person who died. And she actually
went to school with me at Santa Clara. She was
on her way home from Boston. Yeah. And it was,
I didn't know her, but my friends did. She took
a different language than French, but I had friends
that were in other languages as well and had
classes with her. And her boyfriend actually
flew to New York with me the next year. And I
let him go to ground zero by herself, by himself,
just because. Even though she didn't die there,
it was in that event. Go celebrate and not celebrate,
but, you know, mourn there. Her dad came to campus
and stuff and helped protest the Iraq war. Apparently
we're getting yelled at for being too sad. No,
you said celebrate. And that made Nicholas in
the wings react. Nicholas is like on the show
today only to distract us, but he's, he's a very
tired human being and it's probably safer for
all parties that he isn't speaking, but it's
quite distracting, but yeah. If you celebrate,
if you were at the watch parties during the,
the old days of when I was hosting the watch
parties for the Sounders, there was a lot of,
and muted. We had to turn off his mic. Well,
we regularly have the explicit button on here,
so we don't have to really mute it. That's true.
In fact, the last Ultras episode, I wasn't sure
if it was explicit, and I was like, yeah, I'm
going to put explicit just because I do not know.
Why didn't he just show us his crotch? I think
we know why. Let's move on. We're feeding into
this. All right. So, yeah, I was just saying
that Vancouver, like, there's... They're no slouch.
We've had – I think we'll have – it'll be a good
matchup. I mean, I'm really confident on this
team this year, our Sounders team. But I think
we'll get past them. But I think it's going to
be a good match and then followed by likely another
strong matchup, so it's only going to get harder.
But all for it. Yeah. I'm with it. With it. What
time are we at? We're at about 20 minutes, 25
minutes. Yeah. Do we want to do any other scuttlebutt?
I haven't checked Discord in a hot minute. When
was the last time you looked? Oh, we should probably
do that. I did say that we were going to be on
the show tonight. Let's see if anyone threw it
in the mailbag. Boom. There's the mailbag. There's
also, we got to say, the winners of the Pick
'Em from last year. Nicholas gave us. He's going
to mention prizes next episode. He's on. Likely,
probably. Oh, yeah. Why don't I just say that
right now? Shout out to Alex Diaz and Chris Duplass
and Nick for popping in right now. What's up,
Nick? Yeah, just a point of contention that that
is last game's winner, not last year's. Okay.
Aaron said last year's winner. Yeah, we're going
to do that because we're going to draw live next
episode. Gotcha. Yep. Yep. This was, this was
for week one, Alex and Chris were the winners.
So shout out to them. It was an interesting one.
I think I got Sounders win, right? And that might
be it. I said there would be three goals. We
didn't get three, did we? Didn't we? Was it two?
Should have been three, right? We had the same
thing. Who did you pick as your first goal? Cause
I was win three, nothing. Oh, I had Jesus. Oh,
really? I had Osase. Yeah, I think a lot of people
went with Osase. But, you know, maybe we need
to start doubting Rusnak. Like, he's the man.
He is. I was thinking about this watching the
game and how many times we have touted that man
on the show. And I think I love Nico. but I think
he's, he's my favorite sounder right now. Um,
just like, I just, I love watching his game for,
for this team, like for the, the, the, the engine
room that we need, uh, like seem is like Christian.
It's like, that's exactly what we need to see
the type of the style of play. The, um, no, it's
just, I, the quality is just, it's just my favorite.
I just love him. Maybe because I spent also hours
watching frame by frame his movements in that
final four years ago. So it's probably imprinted
on my brain. And I think his brother and his
dad liked the video too. So I thought I was like
two minutes from having coffee with him and his
family. I mean, we got listeners from his home
country. Yeah, that's true. So maybe it was them.
Yeah. So I think that's always going to be probably
why he's probably right up there with my favorite
sounders of all time. One of the things for me
was when I was talking to him and he said, oh,
I didn't think you guys liked me about meeting
the fans in general. And it just broke my heart.
I was like, no way, dude. Damn passive aggressive
fans. Just say you love them. Just be out there
and proud of them. All right. We got a bunch
of questions. We do a series of questions. Some
of them are good. Some of them are jokey. We'll
get all the good ones. So for tonight from Patrick
GC, what's up, Patrick? Any, any injury updates
for Morris and Dotson? Should Rothrock be starting
even when Morris is healthy? So let's start right
there. Updates. I do know the injury updates.
Morris is out roughly a month is what they're
expecting. He injured his, was it his calf? Right
through the middle. So it looks like it's going
to be four weeks, hopefully. And we will see
what happens there. Sonny Dotson was a full participant
in practice today, did not have to enter the
concussion protocol. So they came out. out of
abundance of caution, but he's fine. It was a
good sign that he didn't leave the pitch, right?
If you have a concussion, you need to be away
from light. I mean, they subbed him off. Yeah,
but. But I mean, he didn't leave the field, the
stadium, right? He didn't go to the locker room,
didn't go home, whatever. And he said he felt
fine. Yeah. But if you had told me. If we had
done a show, which we should have maybe, and
did some of our little predictions or whatever,
over -unders, whatever you want to call them,
about Jordan Morris. I mean, I love Jordan Morris,
obviously. Just love that he chose the home club.
I love what he's done for the club. I don't have
really, I want to, but I don't really have faith
in him going forward to be more than 25 matches
a season. I just don't think he's got that anymore.
He's always been kind of a fragile player to
me. I don't know if it's the pigeon -toedness
or what, but the facts are facts. He can't play
a full season. He is productive as all hell when
he is in peak form and healthy. But if you'd
asked me, we're not going to see him for more
than 25 matches. Sure enough, he barely lasts,
what, five minutes? it was seven minutes yeah
so um and then of course to to follow up on patrick's
question um paul rothrack rothrack rothrock grignac
what what movie is that grignac i don't know
grignac rock rock rock galaxy quest is there
air you don't know That's a movie that if you
have not seen, listeners, Galaxy Quest was marketed
wrong. All of the ads are wrong. It made it look
really stupid, and it's an absolute classic.
There are a few movies that I can watch a million
times. It's that, Last Crusade, Hook. What about
PCU? That was on Comedy Central when they didn't
have a lot of... licensed stuff. And so they
played that movie every night. So I've seen it
so many times. Yeah. Anyway, to go back, Paul
Rothrock, of course, comes in and is man of the
match. Right. And I, so that's the, I wasn't
convinced last year. I wasn't convinced with
Paul Rothrock last year. I thought he was, you
know, a great story. Of course, this is going
to be the story of the season. He deserves everything
he's getting his efforts there. He's, he's exactly
what Schmetzer wants. But to just literally hit
the ground running and win the game for us, not
that I was concerned about. I think we would
have won if Jordan stayed on the pitch, whether
he scored or not. But Rothrock got the stats
to win the game for us. I think it's pretty clear
that, well, shit, you start him. I think Areola
is going to be. something we have to talk about
he got minutes yeah i'd rather have him considering
what we saw last year but the sample size of
rothrock versus areola um you gotta give it to
rothrock right now and let areola get up there
obviously we're not we're not at training so
who are you saying rothrock morris when morris
is healthy who are you starting between those
two rothrock I think that's what I was kind of
alluding to. I think Morris is just not. He doesn't
got it, and we can't. I don't want to put starters
out there that aren't going to continue to start.
Injuries happen, but I can guarantee that he's
going to get injured. It sucks. I don't like
saying that. I like Jordan Morris. I think I'm
with you. Was he 30 now? But I feel like he's
got a body of a 35 -year -old. yeah and his skill
set what made him so i mean i'll say prolific
because i mean he was like the wonder kid right
but he that's not he's not he's sure he's fast
but he's not he's not the same body he's not
the same athlete as he was eight ten ten years
ago now it's 2015 i mean he hasn't ran it at
the opposing defenses. Last year he did it a
few times and he was very successful at it, but
it's not something he does very often anymore.
I mean, I think him playing in the wing, I think
I prefer him on the right based on the talent
we have on our squad, but him playing on the
wing instead of forward is the right way to go.
I still think we need, I mean, Osaze is great.
He looked great again. Having Danny off the bench
is fantastic. I still would rather have a DP
forward up there. we need to do something about
that. I mean, obviously if he's only at a month,
it's not happened this year. If he had, if Jordan
had been out of the season, you know, you put
them on IR, you don't take the cap hit. Maybe
you do something about it, but that's obviously
not, not the case. Let's keep it moving just
because we have some, some that maybe we will.
not get fully into, but definitely something
we have to discuss on the show a lot. Muffin
Top Model asks, do we know anything about the
potential sale of the Seahawks? How will this
impact Sounders, if at all? We don't know anything
about the sale of the Seahawks. They will be
put on sale in a way that all these teams are
now where they do a search for investors, but
it'll be like investors that are planning on
buying the team rather than like the Sounders
who are looking for money investors to... to
uh support the team um i mean i think it impacts
it impacts the sounders because they own part
of the sounders well does so does it is does
the trust or does jody um i mean she's acting
on behalf of the trust yeah yeah but i don't
know just her as the seahawks the seahawks own
a portion of the sounders so so yeah um it'll
be who does that and i mean does that go along
with the sale how is that valued is that uh or
is it broken off i mean there's lots of questions
there uh if it is sold will that i mean they
don't have a majority stake but they have a big
enough stake that maybe Are they going to care
about the Sounders? Are they going to view that
as a good part of the investment? Are they only
caring about the Seahawks? I mean, there's a
lot of possibility there. And it could bring
more money to the Sounders if it's going to be
active. I think, obviously, I can't imagine the
sale would take forever. That sounds like a great
Patreon -specific episode, you know, where we
just talk, how does the sale of the Seahawks
affect? the Sounders and maybe try to find someone
that knows more than certainly me, but maybe
that knows a little bit more than you or who's,
um, cause I know there's, there's stuff being
an Alliance council that you guys hear, see,
whatever that you can't speak of just because
of an NDA, but. There's got to be some experts
that might be able to kind of give us some insight.
Because I feel like that's fair for us, for fans,
season ticket holders, to understand. I'm investing
my money and my time into the Sounders, and this
is a pretty big impact to the sports community.
And they're literally related. Yeah, I don't
know if we'll know the answer to that until they
know who's buying it. That's what I mean, after
the sale. I can't imagine it's going to take
very long. I could see it taking years. I could
see it taking years to get the right person in
there. I don't think she's just going to sell
to an investment fund. I think she's going to
make sure it's to the right owners because she's
not going to sell to someone who could potentially
move the team. That's not going to happen. I
mean, you would hope not, but it's not going
to happen. Look what's happening. I mean, it's
not the first time the Seahawks tried to move.
Yeah, well, the circumstances were complete.
Literally polar opposites. I know. Literally
polar opposites. It would be so stupid. The follow
-up for Tim is, is Renton just a matter of time
of when versus if, meaning the new stadium in
Renton? In Longacres, right? Yeah, I think it's
if. It would be near Longacres, I suppose. I've
had lots of conversations with Adrian Hanauer
about this and with the president of the club
and all sorts of other people. it's not just
going to happen. You have to have investment.
You have to make sure it's the right decision.
You got to make sure you have the land. Like
it takes 10 years to do these deals. So it's
not, I mean, it's not a question of if it's a
question or when it's a question of, if there's
so many ifs, are the Seahawks going to stay in
the, in Seattle? Is Lumen Field going to get
torn down one day and build something else? There's
all sorts of different opportunities that could
happen. We don't know. But I want to tag that
on with Dan the Bastard's question, which is,
with the new gate policy and noticeably closed
food areas inside Lumen, are the Sounders purposely
trying to make the game day experience at Lumen
more frustrating to get us on their side to move
to the Burbs? No, Dan. That's you being salty
today. We ate before you went to the game. Why
are you mad about not being able to get a hot
dog? The gate policy we should talk about. The
food, the Sounders have no control over the food
stuff. Lumen decides with opens. There's certain
stuff that just will never be open for Sounders.
And there's even more that are not open for the
rain. That's just how it's going to be. That's
operational. decisions too from the stadium do
they have the do they have the people um yeah
and even if they do is it worth it financially
for them to open it what's what money is being
made versus uh you know with the cost of food
on their end versus selling it i mean they should
make a lot right so eight thing one hour not
90 minutes is that what yeah okay so that's that's
the big thing i think is worth discussing is
uh instead of being 90 minutes beforehand the
gates opened one hour beforehand and it was a
fucking nightmare I knew it was going to be the
case that that was going to happen, but these
data all showed that most people didn't show
up early. So it shouldn't have really made a
difference if everyone's showing up later. Now,
my question was, so when did people show up?
And I don't have that data yet, but I can tell
you that people who showed up right at that hour
mark had to wait. And that's when I got there,
had to wait in line for quite some time. There
were people still waiting in line when kickoff
happened. So clearly an hour was not enough time
for that match. Looking at the amount of tickets
available on Ticketmaster, I think there was
3 % of tickets still available for this match.
I think there's less for the next home match,
RSL, in April, which is our next home match,
April 12th, I believe. We have a long time. Most
of these games, looking at them, are 95 -plus
percent sold out. Now, show rate may be it. Maybe
everyone showed up for this match because it
was the first game of the season. I was surprised
at how packed it was, if I'm being honest. The
weather was real shitty. It had been a shitty
morning. It had rained all day. There was a little
bit of sun over the stadium in the afternoon,
but by the time the game started, it was... Actually,
it stopped raining again, but in the hours leading
up to the game, there was a lot of rain. And
then during the game, it poured the whole time.
until the second half so I really thought there's
a lot of positive sports energy right in the
last couple weeks yeah so yeah and I think that's
we have a question coming up about that but I
don't know we'll have to get that actual the
numbers from the Sounders on that and that's
certainly something I will be looking into I
know for a fact that the I mean On the Lions
Council, we were already talking about it from
the moment before the gates opened, from the
moment we saw the Lions. So this is not something
that is going to be not discussed. This is something
that is going to be, I think there has to be
a good reason for the Sounders to do it. I'll
be curious if it keeps happening. You can train
fans to come at a certain time. That's why they
used to do the early beers. uh, you know, the
$5 beer deals and stuff like that was to get
people in earlier so that not everyone was coming
just before kickoff, kickoff and backing up the
line. Yeah. The beer was cheaper in the stadium
than outside. Yeah. Um, you know, I think people
didn't come in though, so it doesn't make sense.
That was $20 deep time. People, everyone else
shut up. It does, I think, make it harder on
supporter groups who have tables, which grill
FC will have one at every weekend match going
forward. Uh, we did not at this match because
it was just too difficult to get everything together.
But, uh, on the weekends we will, we will have
a table with East side supporters and gorilla
sea stuff. Um, and we have lots of cool stuff
potentially coming up, uh, including some, some
ice trainings, ice response trainings. Uh, but
yeah, uh, it'll be, uh, it'll be interesting
to see what happens. So we'll see. Um, I will
tell you, it was very frustrating. Um, I've never
seen a line that bad, uh, because I was into
early and people were saying the only time they've
seen that bad as playoffs or like in Portland
match, like full stadium. I mean, it was worse
than the Seahawks getting into the plate for
the Seahawks and the playoffs, uh, against San
Francisco, not worse than the NFC championship
game. But I got, I got in faster, uh, against
the 49ers than I did against whoever we played
yesterday, Colorado. Ouch. You said there's more.
Oh, yeah. People respond to that. Oh, so I think
you said something that is interesting, but Yaya
asked if we could discuss the arc of morale following
the end of last season into the preseason. Now,
one game, one win in. So. like coming off last
season, how did we feel? And then the preseason.
And then I think, but I think you nailed it to
the Seahawks. How much did that change expectations,
celebrations of the Sounders being back? I mean,
did it have an impact? I'll let you hit that
first. Yeah. I mean, so personally, the game,
it was on the 8th of November, right? When we
bowed out against Minnesota. My birthday is the
ninth. Yeah. And it was the first time my wife
and I were able to be away from our children
overnight since the first one was born, um, and
be able to have drinks. We went out to, uh, uh,
shout out to Nick in the wings, uh, Kenny G when
Randy was pregnant with Margo. Um, so she couldn't
drink or anything, but so for my, so for my birthday,
um, We were out on Saturday night, and I was
watching the game Sunday morning in my bubble,
as you know. No spoilers, right? Drinking morning
beers. It's my birthday. And then they lost.
And for me, I couldn't dwell on it. I was like,
whatever, it's my birthday and that fucking sucks.
And you know what? I'm going to go to the Seahawks
bar that's in Pacific Beach. I'm going to watch
them destroy the Cardinals for my birthday, which
they did. And then by the end of the day, I was,
you know, you know, wonderfully buzzed throughout
the entire day. So that helped me kind of put
it behind. Right. Yeah. I think also physically
not being there. No one gives a shit. The Super
Bowl sucked. Honestly, I watched it with my boss
who's from Seattle in his house, and I was like,
all right, where am I going to go? All right.
Then there was a Seahawks bar, but I'm like,
I can't. It was so deep, and I could not go to
a bar to watch the Super Bowl, mainly because
I need to watch it, and I don't want to lose
my seat or anything. Maybe I'll change my mind
next year. Plus, you wouldn't have been able
to hear Bad Bunny. I don't know. He's pretty
popular down here. Oh, but I mean, you just wouldn't
have had a good. Oh, I see what you mean. Like
they were, I'm sure they would have played the
sound. Anyway, for me, I'm a little, it was easier
for me, but I was still pissed off. Like I had
a higher expectations based on, well, just being
a sounder fan. Like we, we, we get past the first
round. We usually get to the second. I mean,
technically we were in the second round. We just.
Didn't have to play in it, right? That's true.
That's true. I meant like we don't win a round,
but it was our first round. We win a round. So
that's obviously going to be my expectation.
So I'm bummed. So yeah, and I think the quiet
offseason, nothing splashy, which not that I
would really expect it. Just kind of made it
kind of dull. So there was no real ramp up for
this season. To me, I feel like it came pretty
quickly, to be honest. I feel like February has
been really fast. But that could have been. Again,
the Seahawks. There's also the Mariners, right,
almost getting to the World Series just before
we bow out of the playoffs. So it's like the
Sounders were the ugly stepchild of the family
of Seattle sports. I mean, it's probably the
Kraken. That's true. I mean, the Kraken have
been doing better in the last month or so, right?
Not today, but in general, yeah. yeah i think
there's just more of the energy in the city is
like let's let's win some sports right um if
there were no other sports teams in town right
yeah i mean and and i think they just want and
people want to celebrate and just have joy like
the torrent i don't know if they're still second
to last place but um we have like 10 000 tickets
sold for tomorrow friday yeah Yeah. I mean, and
the cheap tickets, if you didn't have a, if you
aren't a season ticket holder, there was a link
that I could have used to get cheap. It helps
that the, the, the champions of the world are
half of the team, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Totally. It's kind of like the old Seattle
women's team with Rapinoe and hope solo. Yeah.
Alex Morgan, Sydney. Not, they haven't been that
good this year. And so it's been, it's been kind
of a bummer. They are now in last place. So.
toronto is past them they're only a point well
they were focused on beating the world yeah yeah
but anyway i i think but people are enjoying
that so i mean i think you're right though that
winning breeds fandom and that's boston seems
to help all teams i mean i think um to yaya's
point about the preseason it did excite me a
little bit because we saw the eruption of Osase
you know we saw him score two goals in each of
the last two games plus a goal in the game before
that and just be fantastic he drew a penalty
also against Louisville and so you know it was
a pretty great Great time. And then we saw him
play well and kick that kick, kick Josh Atencio
in the head and the ear on the way back down,
trying to, trying to do a bicycle kick. But yeah,
I mean, I think that, that made me kind of excited
for the Sounders to come back and really it was
who's going to start a goalie. Is it actually
going to be Andrew Thomas, which of course we
were all hoping. And that's what happened. And
that beautiful man is now starting in goal. So
it's a, it's a. An interesting preseason. I will
say it did feel kind of rushed, though, and I'm
always shocked when it's here. I think the wind
kind of gets me hyped up, though. Like going
into the game, I didn't know what to think. You
never know, but they look good. I mean, that
game could have easily been, one of those ones
could have been 4 -5 -0, but it wasn't in a frustrating
way because of the club. In the past, it was
the club that frustrated us. This felt more like...
The referees just made the first half so broken.
Yeah. We should talk about that. Let's take a
break. First, before we take that break, we need
a heated rivalry show about soccer. Okay. Have
you been watching the gay hockey show? Oh, I
see what you mean. No, I have not. You should
watch it, but we need a soccer one because then
we would get so many more soccer fans. Okay.
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Break. And we're back. First match of the season.
2 -0. Should have been more. Colorado. Yellow
cards all over the place. Possession all over
the place. We had 92 % of it pretty much for
the first half. It felt like that. It wasn't
that much. No, literally it was 86 at like 37
minutes or something stupid. Yeah, later on it
was dropped down to 55. Yeah, well, it ended.
So the match ended with Colorado with 58 .8 %
possession. so that really is a huge swing i
mean we watched the game we know we weren't struggling
um at that point 14 to 7 in shots right oh i'm
looking at the wrong colorado match i'm like
it took me to the old minnesota match that was
weird i was like that's how much possession we
had oh okay yeah that is that is a huge when
they were yeah when it was when it was game on
both sides right we were just dominating um and
it was clear that they were they were not up
to the task But once we got that goal, it got
messy. Not Lionel, but they had four straight
yellow cards from the 23rd to the 42nd minute.
It was horribly mismatched. That 17, was it 17,
19 minutes? Realistically, it was about an hour,
45 minutes or so, just with the stoppages, the
incorrect calls. You're there. You saw the...
the replays i'm sure too of of what was called
correctly incorrectly um what do you think uh
yeah i mean they definitely some of this car
some of the things they didn't call yet they
called thousand didn't give yellow cards on should
have been yellow cards number one uh there were
some dangerous fouls there uh some of them borderline
red maybe um this referee is interesting last
year uh in in this all i think he ref 25 matches
he gave out i believe it was 52 yellow cards
he only gave out four red cards and they were
all second yellows he gave out zero straight
reds oh really and then the year before it was
like in the 40 46 yellow cards or so and he only
gave out one red card and it was also a second
yellow so he does not give out red cards first
off secondly he doesn't give out second yellows
so i knew that they were not going to get a red
card i mean he and and he clearly is scared to
to impact the game but i mean if it's a second
yellow it's a second yellow that's frustrating
it just seems illogical that there's a a four
and four and 62 chance that he would get a second
second yellow, there has to be more fouls than
that. So he doesn't do it very often. So I felt
like it was kind of frustrating that they looked
like they were going to get a red card. They
were going into dangerous challenges. They were
taking out Sounders' legs. So I think that was
part of my big frustration. And then VAR, I haven't
gone back and watched it, but reading his lips
at the time on the goal, you could see him say,
I can't see it. So it felt like... I don't know
if you got to see it on TV, but it felt like
VAR was trying to convince him that it was not
a goal. 75 -inch 4K did not. I'm like, what are
you talking about? Well, first off, when he came
back, he said the wrong player. Well, I knew
that. I knew it wasn't Jesus. They were looking
at us on stage. The two players hit each other
shoulder to shoulder. I get why you might. see
a foul there. But the big thing for me, and this
is why I hate that it has to be clear and convincing
evidence. As a lawyer, these rules matter. So
it doesn't mean you got the call wrong. It has
to be clear and convincing evidence you got the
call wrong. And so it's very frustrating. There
was not clear and convincing evidence that that
was the wrong call. That's it. So it should not
have been overturned. And honestly, it might
maybe a harsh red but the red he took back was
a cob um that ended up walking off the field
and then coming back on and with the yellow and
watching that replay he's not going for ball
and he does throw an elbow out yeah it didn't
it well he does and it might touch him a little
bit i'm okay with that being overturned because
from his angle where he was, it probably looked
like he elbowed him across the face. I guess
that's what I'm trying to say is I'm not even
his reaction as a center ref to go straight red.
When you said he's never done it, he's like,
okay, I can see that perspective. I don't mind
that being overturned, though. I thought, I mean,
here's the thing is I don't think there should
have to be clear and convincing evidence. Just
call the damn call the way it should be called.
What's the right call? Do that. But, you know,
I think it was interesting that VAR was the one
pushing him rather than the other way around.
They're supposed to buzz him and say, hey, we
see something, and then he's supposed to ask
questions. And if that's not what was happening,
I mean, I think it shouldn't be in the center
ref's hands at all. I think they should just
decide it and tell him the right call so that
his ego is taken out of it. But that's not what
we do. Yeah. Or if anything, put a 10 seconds
and come back. If you can't see it in 10 seconds
with the screen, then let's not make it an hour
first half. I pulled that up on Apple TV and
watched it on my phone. Oh, sorry, Fox Sports.
It was on Fox Sports. I watched it on my phone,
so I was able to watch that. The way they slowed
it down, I get why he called it. He did hit his
head, but it wasn't as egregious as he thought.
I think yellow is the right call there. That's
what he got. I'm okay with it. I do think though,
if he had called no card that you should be able
to go back and give that a yellow, which I don't
think you can do. I think you can only give it
a red or nothing at all. Some arbitrary damn
rules, but well, they just let them cut our players
down over and over again. Yeah. It was messy.
It was gross. Yeah. Positive. So since we're
trying to move it along is Rothrock comes on
and the effort to get to that ball. right it
was a great pass by free era it was just a little
too far it was a great decision i should say
um and got to it and then to hit the boards get
back and then still get back in there keep your
head up and swing that thing in and to see rustnack
with a header like it was it was a beaut it was
a beaut 15 minutes in And at that point, it was
just like we were owning possession. They were
chasing us. And it was just like, let's not have
it be one of those matches, like those kind of
old Sounders matches where we're dominating possession,
but we're just dominating corners, but nothing's
hitting the back of the net. And nope, 15 minutes
in, first game of the season. Let's go. Let's
go. And my prediction was 3 -0. I expected us
to score some goals, but I didn't. want reality
to not meet my expectations. So yeah, I wasn't
really surprised. They, they were not very goal
dangerous. I thought they would at least be a
little more goal dangerous than they were. No
Colorado. I mean, I, uh, they only had four corners
and four shots on target, five total shots. We
only had six on target, but we had 10 shots.
And I think they just didn't feel like it wasn't
a call to Colorado. I mean, Colorado. I think
we won nine straight against them at home or
something like that. But still, they're never
just pushovers. But still. And that might be
more when we play them in Colorado. Maybe tainting
your memory a little bit. They're one of the
bottom feeders in my memory, right? But I can't.
They've had a couple good seasons. I know Dan
Boniface is listening. I'm sorry. A few years
ago, remember they finished, they passed us for
second. Yeah, I said they had a few years. But
just in general, they're kind of like the Arizona
Cardinals to me. Oh, which reminds me, we missed
the scuttle, but that Minnesota's coach has already
been fired from the Premier League. Oh, really?
Yeah, he got fired yesterday. And with him and
Nancy both getting fired, it's insane. The two
best up -and -coming coaches in the MLS have
completely flopped instantly because Nancy got
fired real quick from Celtic. But they also are
having a nightmare season, so I don't think it's
them. I don't think it's the coach, but he handled
it so poorly that MLS looks pretty shitty right
now. That our best coaches, like our best up
-and -coming coaches, can't go for another league.
I don't like that. I think Colorado still has
to figure out who they are under this new coach.
The preseason is too short to figure that out.
I think they'll be a better team by the end of
the season. I can't see them as cellar dwellers,
but maybe not. Maybe they will struggle. They
just have too much talent on that team, though.
It's the first game of the season. They're coming
here in the rain, and we're a quality team. That's
not going to help you, especially when you're
on the back foot. I think the quality and consistency
of our lineup, When I say consistency, I mean
they've been together for years, really. I don't
need to learn each other. Right, yeah. That with
all of that, all the four straight yellow cards
sliding, tackling us, and VAR stoppages and all
that shit, they were able to see the forest through
the trees and get the job done. They knew the
assignment. They weren't distracted. With Jordan
going out, they still scored a goal seven minutes
later. With Dotson going out after he gets his
goal taken away. What a storybook start. You
know, you know, we go into half. We're fine.
Dotson comes out 45th minute plus 14. Someone
asked me about that. I don't, I don't think that
was a foul. I think they just both head to head
right into each other. Like it sucks, but yeah,
there was no, there was no card. to be given
there i don't remember as clearly but i agree
with you sure um ferreira looked great you know
yeah i mean that path was pass was deflected
but the decision to make the pass was the right
one uh rothrock he didn't quite roof it right
but yeah i'll give him a roof it on that the
keeper had nothing on that goal yeah on his goal
i mean the angle he was coming in it was tough
i mean even schmetzer was like damn Yeah, that
was, I mean, man of the match for sure. That
was, I think, the second or third time that Ferrer
had made that pass to Rothrock. Oh, yeah. So,
yeah, we saw some good, it just didn't work out
the other times, but we saw some good decision
-making that maybe didn't work. at the time but
then paid off later because then the players
knew where the ball was going to go I thought
Brunel slanted Brunel looked mature you know
obviously in minutes last year helped great to
see Georgie come on um I really want him I mean
he's just fun right he's interesting he wasn't
running at the other team and then suddenly he
did and it worked and it was like oh yeah just
forget that that's all you do as Nicholas says
he's a one -trick pony That's how we find out
if he's still listening because that's the opposite
of what he says. Yeah. Or I'll give this. He's
listening. Standing outside now. Yeah. But here's
the thing is he's in like areas of the airport
that are not available to the public. So right
now, this is a security threat, isn't it? Like
we are seeing areas of the airport that we're
not allowed to be in. I mean, this is like how
you hijack a plane. Anyway, did you know Georgie
and Danny subbed in at the 69th minute? Giggity,
giggity. I did not. What I like is that it was
early. Yeah. That's what was important to me.
We didn't wait until the 85th minute to sub everyone
in. And, you know, it was interesting to hear
Schmetzer talk about that sub. He said, you know,
Ferreira played great. You know, we could have
left him out there. it's preseason and players
aren't in full game shape yet. And so we just
thought it would be a good idea to make the sub.
And I'm kind of glad he did just because it gets
more minutes for some of these players, which
we are going to need in some of these upcoming
road games, plus champions cup, stuff like that.
No, I'll use all five, please. Yeah. Use all
five when the game allows it. Like there's no
reason with, we're going to play almost 50 matches
this year, right? Champions cup. I mean, U .S.
Open Cup, unless we advance to the semifinals
final, will be not our starters. But Champions
Cup, we got Leagues Cup, which we're defending
champs. Let's go. That was fun. Let's do it again.
And please, let's go deeper in the MLS Cup playoffs.
So, yeah, get your minutes on the bench. We're
up 2 -3 -0, please. Shout out to Josh Atencio
for playing 90 minutes for Colorado, taking a
boot to the ear. Boot to the ear. On the way
back down from that bicycle kick. Probably deserved
a yellow card there, but it looked painful. Yep,
yep, yep, yep. Well, general takeaways from the
first match. Sounders look solid. They look ready
to go on the season. And I think that it makes
me confident heading into Salt Lake for the next
road match, which is a difficult place to play.
Yeah, historically for us especially, right?
Finally, I think we shook a little bit of that
bugaboo off. Yeah. I mean, I don't off the top
of my head, but I mean, there was a while where
we couldn't win a game there to save our life.
12 years that we didn't. Yeah. Yeah. We're playing
there Saturday at 4 30 PM. But it's what'll be
interesting. Well, here, what I want to talk
about with Salt Lake is this. Everyone got mad
when they changed their name to America first,
which is like a bank. But it used to be Rio Tinto.
And Rio Tinto was involved with diamond mines
in Africa, in Namibia, where they had slaves,
child slaves. So America First may be a dumb
name for the stadium. I get why people are annoyed.
But you can't pick and choose that. Rio Tinto
was a way worse company and something that we
definitely should have been protesting. Yeah.
That's wild. I didn't know about that until later
when I was reading a book or a book and then
later heard a podcast about Elon Musk's family
and their involvement in diamond mines and slavery
in South Africa territories. What a positive
way to end this podcast. Yeah, let's end on the
Sounders. What's Lubin doing? They're just tracking
people in their basement. they're trying to make
a severance joke lumen no you know what i'm talking
about the show severance i've never seen it no
where they people choose to have their actual
life separated from their work life so they have
this thing where they're they cross into this
elevator at this you know business park and they
go all they know like they just forget about
their actual life they only know their work life
so it's like two different people the guy that
um this is a weird version of it's a really cool
show it's on apple tv but like um it's the uh
that amazing movie where you erase people from
your brain eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
but it's like temporary only when you're going
to work and back kind of but less artsy fartsy
um oh yeah um i know that uh whatever but the
god i'm brain farting on his name Parks and Rec,
also Step Brothers, the Mean Brother. Yeah, Scott.
Yes. The last name. Yes, yeah. He's the main
character. It's a really good show. But the company
is called Lumen. Spelled differently, but the
company, so they're doing all this weird... Doesn't
matter. Doesn't matter. Well, the Sounders are
in fourth place right now, sitting behind San
Diego. who have a gold differential of five five
lafc and san jose who are in second with the
gold dimensional three uh and then the sounders
sit in fourth with a gold differential of two
and portland right behind us with the gold differential
of one we are seventh in the power rankings paul
literally paul rothrock rothrock's legend grows
by the day is all it says so paul in quotes literally
paul rothrock Roth Rock's legend grows by the
day. That's it. Everyone else got a paragraph,
kind of. San Diego's fourth. San Jose won without
Tino Werner even playing. San Jose won. Yeah,
3 -0 over Sporting KC. But without Tino Werner,
it's going to be their star player. So that's
fascinating. It is. And they put them at 16.
Yeah, I mean, I think they've got to prove it,
right? And KC, where is KC last? Yep. Yeah. I
mean, Casey's bad, but still 3 -0 is a blowout.
Montreal 29th. 5 -0 is a blowout too. Yeah. Yeah,
it is. So yeah, I'm excited for the season. Let's
see where it takes us. But this, I mean, shout
out to Yaya for nailing it. This win really makes
me ready to go. Yeah, me too. I'm really bummed
I can't go. When do they play at San Diego? I
was just going to say, I think it's like August,
unfortunately. Last year was in May. Yes, please.
Last year, the Mariners and Padres played, I
think, in April, and then the Sounders played
in May. So this year, yeah. Oh my God, no way.
No, that's at Seattle. Oh my God. It's not until
October. Yeah. I was like, I don't see it. It's
an, I'm in the, I'm in the summer. It's lame.
Oh, that gives me a lot of time to save up money.
It's the week before Halloween. Oh, the Sounders
play on the 28th, right? Three days before Halloween.
That'll be a Halloween match for sure. Against
Houston who wears orange and black. Oh my gosh.
Halloween match for sure. Yeah. October 24th.
All right. Well. That's the plan. If you are
a listener and or contributor to the show, let's
plan on being in San Diego on October 24th, 2026
to celebrate with Aaron. Let's hope that's a
weekend. March, April, May, June, July, August,
September, October 24th is a Saturday, one week
before Halloween. Awesome. Two and a half hour
flight. Come party with me. Snapback, it's an
all right stadium. Let's save up your money now.
Let's go. And the game's at 7 .30. The game was
at 1 or whatever last May, and there's no shade
at this stadium. It is just a bowl of sunshine,
and it was terrible. Is it San Diego State Stadium?
It is. It's new. Because they got rid of Aztec
Stadium, whatever, didn't they? Or is that still
there also? I think this is in the footprint
of Qualcomm, the old Chargers stadium. Jack Murphy
Stadium? No, it was Qualcomm Stadium. You could
be right as well. That was the old Chargers Stadium.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the same. I don't know
the name of stadiums with their stupid sponsors.
It was Jack Murphy Stadium. Speaking of sponsors,
look at that. That was a nice little transition.
Um, pay ultras. Thank you. We love them. That's
why they get to share their voice with y 'all,
but also we've got some other Patreon members.
So I want to really, really appreciate that does
really help carry the show. Um, we of course
had those stupid little ads, but that helps too.
But the more Patreons we get, we could throw
those out of here. But until then, we're going
to be putting our shows more regularly. on patreon
that does not have those ads um but it does it
it helps chug this along and the more we do the
more expensive it gets so um appreciate y 'all
listening if you're on our discord get involved
clearly you heard we are loving pulling from
the mailbag there um that's what the scuttlebutt's
all about talk what what do you guys want to
talk about so do we yeah absolutely and by the
way yes qualcomm is jack murphy There we go.
We're both right. It's always fun when that happens.
It was Jack Murphy until 1997. And then in 97,
they turned it into Qualcomm. Me being a few
years older than you, that's when I stopped caring
about San Diego sports. I probably have never
watched another game unless the Mariners were
playing. The Vedder Cup. Yeah, they have a special
jersey. Kevin Zelko was just posting about it,
where you can buy a ticket for a special jersey
at the match, a Vedder Cup jersey this year.
At the match? Oh, you know what I mean. At the
baseball game. Well, I was going to say, if it
was at the Lumen Field in May or whatever, and
they play, it's like, get me a better cup jersey.
Yeah, no, it's at the baseball stadium, the Safeco
Field, which is not Katoomba T -Mobile Park.
Jesus. Okay. I'm going to go to the Kingdome
and watch some soccer. I was going to say, Candlestick
sounds like a fun place to visit. God, I love
Candlestick. I've been there. It's cold. I've
been there. Yeah. For baseball or? No, I went
to go see a Niner game with my like family friend,
uncle kind of thing. Sounds weird. My mom's like,
like mother kind of figure. Her husband took
me. He was season ticket holder. Yeah. Can you
show us on the doll? Fuck off. You're not a Knicks.
That's a Nick thing. That's cool. Yeah, I went
there. I saw Seahawks play there. There he is.
Jesus, I knew it. I summoned him. I saw the Seahawks
play there before and I saw the Giants play.
I can't remember. Maybe the Braves? Yeah, I don't
even remember who it was. I was like 11. I remember
the big escalator. I remember the big escalator
going up. Yeah. Oh, I just realized I'm never
going to be able to go on those escalators again.
That was so crazy. I just realized that Candlestick
Park does not exist anymore. Yeah, I mean. Jack
Murphy. They don't have them at. Get off my lawn.
I don't know what Pac Bell is called now, if
it's still even Pac Bell. I don't know what it,
you know, the Giants, San Francisco Giants Stadium,
and they definitely don't have it at the Santa
Clara 49ers Stadium. The Santa Clara 49ers love
it. All right. Did I tell you this real quick
before we leave? Our listeners don't know this.
Seahawks, I was a backup for tickets through
the lottery because our Seahawks season tickets
are from 1975, way before I was born. We have
before original season tickets, like one of the
first people to sign up. So we did not win the
lottery, but we were the backup. And so I got
a call offering to sell me two tickets to the
49ers stadium for. Seahawks Super Bowl, but it
was $4 ,400 a ticket. I had to turn it down.
That's face value. They were club seats. If you
make the Super Bowl next year in LA, are you
going to get a similar call? If I get picked,
yeah. I'm going to figure out everything. That's
two hours north. Then we can win it in the Rams
stadium too. Yeah. I went to college at Santa
Clara. That's one of my homes. I spent five years
there, living there. A lot of my best memories
are there. It would have been so cool to go down
and watch the Seahawks win the Super Bowl there.
Smart people go to college for four years. I
went to four years and a quarter to get my second
degree. I had three majors. I had a BA in history
and French and francophone studies and a BS in
political science. So I had to go an extra quarter
for one class because they wouldn't let me in
a class because it was full. for one stupid class.
So I stuck around for the rest of the year before
I started law school. Sure. I didn't go to college.
Let's end. All right. Well, this has been a pleasure.
Glad to be doing this again. Yeah. Rust is off.
Nicholas, you might as well have just joined
the show this entire time. Now he's walking around
the airport with his pants down. Is he? He's
getting in an airplane right now. He's like climbing
up on the side of an airplane. He might be like
one of those guys. This is a terrible podcast.
What's his name? The guy that flew away and like
ended up crashing the plane. Do you remember
his name? I know who you're talking about. He
stole the Alaska Airlines plane. He's tired enough
that he might actually end up doing that. I know.
We shouldn't give him ideas. So get home, Nicholas.
Go to bed. All right. There he is. Oh, he's in
the food court. Oh, because he's going to Floret.
Yeah. Give me a tofu burrito, please. You, I
am also going to go to bed. So again, this is,
this has been fun. I am glad we're doing this
again. Go Sounders to nothing. We got a game
this Saturday. Who we didn't know who he was
going to win. Salt Lake. Salt Lake. Oh, and oh
yeah. At America Tinto stadium. I'll, I'll, I'll
preview it with the ultras when we record late
tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, I can't pick against
the Sounders right now. That looked just like
when we play our game and we dominate, then someone's
going to have to prove that they can beat us.
So my bets, I'm going to go probably 2 -1. I
think we give up our first goal of the season,
but I think it's going to be a win. I think we
score first. I mean, they got dominated by...
Vancouver, despite only losing 1 -0, they lost
in every single category except for fouls. They
had two less fouls than Vancouver. Yeah, I mean...
I'd be flabbergasted if we lost, despite the
history on those grounds. So, what do you think?
Yeah, I'm with you. I'd say 2 -1. Alright, 2
-1 it is. And... with that... I think we bring
it into port. Yeah, let's do it. Take it away,
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