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It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes

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from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest

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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,

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your moment. Hello and welcome to another episode

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of Sounders Scuttlebutt. I am one of your hosts

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Cameron Collins and I am here today with the

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Ultras. And Alex and Cedar, what is up, gentlemen?

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The season's over. How are you feeling? Yeah,

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I just want to fast forward and get to preseason

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so we can get us started again. I was putting

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up Christmas lights today, just wishing that

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Christmas was over and we were ready to play

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soccer again. It does feel weird having no soccer,

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but I guess there was probably some Premier League

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today, wasn't there? Yes. Yeah, there was. Mo

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Salah complaining about not playing or something.

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Yeah, man. God. I was telling somebody the other

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day, I was like, you know, I'm really glad I'm

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a pretty casual Liverpool supporter because it,

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like, sucks right now. It, like, sucks so bad.

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It's one thing to, like, perform so terribly.

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And then it's a whole other thing to just, like,

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have, you know, a club legend. purportedly be

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you know super unhappy i mean it's just i would

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i would be very sad to see him move on uh unless

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he comes to the sounders that would be great

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i think actually if adrian opens up his uh wallet

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a little bit more let's go get mo why not because

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he'd get shut down in practice every day by new

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who New Who can be a starter forever. Yeah. Rumor

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has it, though, was it Sounder at Heart reporting

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that they're trying to shop New Who or maybe

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Nico? I mean... That might have been Nico. I

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don't know. I can't speak on that. I didn't see

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that. Yeah. It's interesting. Very, very interesting.

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Yeah. You know, if you're looking at shopping

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him, it is kind of interesting because... You

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know, do y 'all hear that screaming in the background?

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All right. My kids are screaming next door, and

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I want to make sure that y 'all didn't hear my

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12 -year -old dropping F -bombs at the 9 -year

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-old. So, you know, the last thing Craig said

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to us was like, hey. We want to keep this team

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as much as possible, and then they trade Leyva,

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and they're talking about trading Nuhu, too.

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And Rothrock's walking. That's not keeping the

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team as super together. I mean, we don't know

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if Rothrock is walking yet. We just know that

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he's going out and trying to get offers. They

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could easily come back and be like, this is what

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I'm being offered, and they'll go, okay, I guess

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that's what you're worth. That's possible. Looks

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like we have lost Alex. He's struggling. So let's

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do a little talk about the Seahawks real quick

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there. Since, Cedar, you're wearing, is that

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a T .J. Hujpinsada jersey? No, he was 84. Is

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that a Golden Tate jersey? Golden Tate, yes,

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sir. You're going to disrespect Russell Wilson

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like that? Hey, no comment on all the off -field

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stuff. But, boy, on the field, yeah, he was so

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much fun to watch. And he loved doing this. Yeah,

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little boy. And, boy, this Seahawks team was

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super fun to watch, too. How were we feeling?

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Yeah, it was a good win today. Probably got me

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into the final of my... fantasy championship

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game with jsn deciding to show up in the second

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half yes absolutely yeah they turned it on um

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it's nice to see even though you know obviously

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you want everything firing on all cylinders including

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the offense and they've been they've had you

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know a lot of clunky moments in the past couple

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of games but it's nice to see us be able to win

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in you know through multiple kind of ways And

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again, having that defense is really, I mean,

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it's cliched, but it's true. Defense wins championships.

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That's how we won our Super Bowl. So I like the

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formula. I think the real test, though, is going

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to be can we beat the Rams and can we beat the

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Niners? I think if we don't beat both those teams,

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then... I don't think we're going to get – we

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don't deserve to get far in the playoffs. You

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know, we got to beat both of those teams headed

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into the postseason. How'd the Cowboys do? Terrible.

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Probably how you would expect. No, they got pretty

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bad by the Lions, and I think that pretty much

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ends their playoff hunt. So they can – they're

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being realistic. They're done for the year. All

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the Seahawks, that defense token, y 'all, I would

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like to say you're welcome. I haven't had any

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thank yous or anything for giving y 'all Lawrence

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or nothing. Enjoy that. Thanks, Dan. I wonder

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why our defense isn't very good anymore. Alex,

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what about you? You watch any football today?

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No, I saw the scores. I saw that Seattle gave

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Atlanta the business. Waited until the second

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half to do it, but yeah. I didn't see, yeah.

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And then I seen Detroit gave Dallas the business.

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And then, yeah. I mean, I do like pick umps with

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some of my buddies, but I don't really watch

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the games. I just pick a team who I think is

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going to win, and I lose. And donate them five

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bucks every week. Gotta stop picking the Cowboys.

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No, here's the thing. When I pick the Cowboys

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to win, they lose. And when I pick them to lose,

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they win. You should pick them to lose every

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week. Dan will be happy. All I'm doing I've watched

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all year is Thanksgiving. So I'm doing pretty

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good with breaking my addiction to the Cowboys.

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That's pretty nice. Well, this is a soccer podcast,

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so maybe we should talk about soccer. And I think

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we did a lost episode on the end of the season,

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but we have an MLS Cup to talk about, and maybe

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that's where we should start. Who wants to lead

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off talking about the MLS Cup? Yeah, I thought

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it was a fun game to watch for somebody that

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I really didn't care who. who won. It was, it

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was as a neutral. I had a lot of fun watching

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it. Yeah. Cedar, what'd you think? I got to watch,

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uh, most of the first half and then I, I had

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to go to work, but, um, yeah, it was, it was

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definitely, it was, it was pretty exciting, um,

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from what I saw and I was paying attention to

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it while I was at work and I saw, you know, Vancouver

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had some life and then It went away. But it seemed

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like from the first half when I watched it, Vancouver,

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they were up for it. And obviously they had a

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little bit of bad luck. And again, to win big

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games, you not only have to be good, you also

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have to be lucky. So it just wasn't their day.

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And I'm sure, you know. Messy fans everywhere,

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the league, Don Garber, David Beckham, they're

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all elated right now, you know, because this

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is the proof of their whole thing coming to fruition.

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And, I mean, it's a different conversation, but,

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you know, potentially, as much as I don't necessarily

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want to see Miami win, I think Vancouver would

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have been... I mean, it's already a really cool

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story, but just for them to cap it all off with

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the win would be incredible for them. As much

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as I didn't want Miami to win, I do think that

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potentially, on the whole, this could help propel

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the league forward in terms of its... global

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standing especially with changing the calendar

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you know to match the to the european calendar

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and you know potentially opening up the the spending

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rules and genuinely a concerted effort from the

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entire league all the owners to to elevate the

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league into you know a higher stratosphere which

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i i do think is possible and maybe this is this

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is part of that so if that ends up happening

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great but uh yeah i definitely feel for vancouver

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our little brothers what about you alex they

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got to be pretty disappointed no i think that

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overall it was a good game it was you know fun

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fun to watch as a neutral i was You know, kind

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of hoping that Vancouver would maybe score another

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one. But I think, yeah, I felt like if you watch

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the game, you could see that Vancouver controlled

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most of the game. And the reason why they lost

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was that Miami had three moments in transition.

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And that's when I ended up winning the game.

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They didn't have overall the best team, but what

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they had was the best players in moments. And

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that's the difference between winning a trophy

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or not winning a trophy. We're going to come

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down to those high -pressure moments. Yeah, I

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mean, probably unlucky. You know, the first goal,

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a few mistakes from Vancouver. But for the ball

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to hit off both posts and then hit off the outside

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of the post, they go up 2 -1 in that moment.

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That changes the game entirely. Everything's

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different from then on. So I do feel bad for

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Vancouver, but I was excited when Miami won because

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we know how I feel. We've got to prove that only

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spending money wins if we're ever going to see

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money spent on the Sounders. No, yeah, and it's

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like they say, goals change games. And if you

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really think about it, two goals that Miami scored

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were off Vancouver's mistakes. One in the midfield.

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where they picked his pocket, and then another

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one was an own goal, which was unlucky. Yeah,

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but he kept the guy onside, and then when he

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went on his run, he ran right in the lane where

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the cross was going to go. Yeah, it was unlucky,

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but at that point, there was a few other mistakes

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that he had made on defense leading up to that

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own goal. Same guy. If it had been one of our

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players, we would have been killing him. Yeah.

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No, but I think I'm not upset with the result.

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I agree with you. In order to compete in the

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world now, you have to pay the top players to

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come to your team. This game is pay -to -play.

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Or you just have to have a really good... You

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have to have a GM that can hit on the low -level

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guys to be impactful. You got to hit on the high

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-level guys, and that's what we're not doing.

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Well, we're not signing high -level guys. Yeah,

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our DPs are good players, but they're not the

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same level DPs as teams that are winning. Jeremiah

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O'Shan tried to come after me like, look at Vancouver's

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payroll. Yeah, we don't have a DP. Yeah, sure,

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he's not a DP this year, but his contract goes

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into a DP. It's back -loaded. We don't have a

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DP on our team that's going to make as much money

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as Mueller. Like, we don't have a player of that

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caliber. And Mulder's a much better player than

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all of our DPs. Yeah. Which, you know, and I

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think those of us that want money spent aren't

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even saying spend that amount of money. We're

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saying just sign two more Pedro's instead. You

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know what I mean? Like, spend enough money that

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you're signing higher. I mean, I want, you know

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me, I've always said I want a Gabriel Peck. Give

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me some more players like that out of South America.

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Yeah, I don't think that the people asking for

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spinning are asking for us to keep up with LAFC

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or Miami. But, you know, keep up with Vancouver.

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That's the false dichotomy. It's something that

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Nicholas likes to say on this podcast a lot.

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And I'm like, why are you so intent on not spending

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money, man? This isn't your money. Well, I don't

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think it's anybody's money because I don't think

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it exists at all. Yeah, that could be true. And

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I will say, to Adrian Hanauer's credit, he's

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never taken a dime out of this club. Every dollar

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he's put in has stayed in the club. So this isn't

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– sure, his value has gone way up, and one day

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it'll be a huge money -making, like generational

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wealth that he already has, but even more. But

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that is not what he's – He's losing money on

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this club every year because he doesn't take

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anything out. So maybe this call that the Sounders

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have made isn't just about a stadium. Maybe it's

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about signing good players too. I don't know.

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We will see. The front office has to have an

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idea of how they stacked up. They have to be

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able to see the trend too, right? Like you have

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Miami coming, Miami brings in Messi, then you

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bring in, you know, Son at LAFC. So the trend

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is the, what, 8 million we spent on Ryle is not

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going to be able to keep up if that's our only

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transfer ends. Yeah, it's interesting. I forgot

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to do it the other day, but I was going to look

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at what that was in today's dollars. to figure

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that out. But yeah, I mean, what, what do you

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think the Sounders need to do here to, to be

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able to compete with these teams? If we're not

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going to change scores, then keep producing Obed

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Vargas' from Selma Defiance. That's probably

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the other way that it's going to happen. You

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know, and maybe Snyder Brunel, maybe he's that

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guy. Maybe he can come in after this year and

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pick up where Obed left off. It's not that much

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different, actually, because I think he was between

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six and seven million and we'll say seven. And

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that is nine point five million in today's money.

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So that's I mean, I think that's. If we're not

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signing a DP of that level when we have an open

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spot, we're not serious about competing for championships.

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We're serious about the Pete Carroll type of

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game that the Seahawks played for years where,

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sure, you just want to make the playoffs and

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then maybe you'll get lucky. Yeah, we can get

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a star, but we're not going to be a perennial

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contender for the MLS Cup, like playing in the

00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:16.079
game. One thing I think, though, is as long as

00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:19.339
we have Brian, I think we always have a chance

00:17:19.339 --> 00:17:22.460
to punch up. You know what I mean? I think that

00:17:22.460 --> 00:17:25.859
does give us a unique ability that, hey, any

00:17:25.859 --> 00:17:29.519
day we can beat Miami. We beat Miami this year,

00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:33.859
right? And so it's really a testament to what

00:17:33.859 --> 00:17:36.779
Frank has been able to do with what he has brought

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in and Brian's coaching. Agreed. yeah i think

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i think uh teca what you guys are saying we do

00:17:45.930 --> 00:17:49.589
we do need to spend more money and you know get

00:17:49.589 --> 00:17:54.430
a get a son of our own get um even even like

00:17:54.430 --> 00:17:58.730
uh you know getting a a player the level of a

00:17:58.730 --> 00:18:03.930
peck or a buonga you know because yeah brian

00:18:03.930 --> 00:18:07.470
can do a lot and we've got the northwest grit

00:18:07.470 --> 00:18:13.079
and all this kind of stuff but If the league

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really is moving into this upward trajectory

00:18:17.019 --> 00:18:22.980
and they really want to be a destination place

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for some top -end talent that is considering

00:18:29.019 --> 00:18:32.759
going to Europe or coming from Europe with the

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transfer windows aligning, with those schedules

00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:39.880
aligning, if we don't catch up to that, I mean,

00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:44.880
I can see us being, I don't know. I mean, I can

00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:49.500
see us like this being in the worst case scenario.

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This is the, like the last season that we win

00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:57.119
a trophy for like a very long time, unless it's

00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.160
like a flash in the pan leagues cup run. Right.

00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.039
Which is, it's nice to win a trophy. That was

00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.720
super fun when we did it this year. I mean, that

00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.480
was an incredible game and incredible run, but.

00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.019
what we really want is MLS Cup. We want another

00:19:12.019 --> 00:19:15.119
Champions League victory. The way it's going

00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:20.660
now, I just, you know, unless there's a big step

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up in financial investment, it doesn't feel like

00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:27.559
we're going to be a legit contender for those

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competitions moving forward. And, you know, like

00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.539
we'll still, like you said, we'll still be competitive,

00:19:34.660 --> 00:19:38.720
right? you have that pete carroll kind of effect

00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.880
uh in the seahawks for for the last part of his

00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.099
tenure and it was like oh yeah we're always competitive

00:19:45.099 --> 00:19:49.279
but we're not gonna actually win the whole shebang

00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:55.519
and i think i think for a club like like us that's

00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:58.339
what we're that's what we're used to we we want

00:19:58.339 --> 00:20:03.200
to be as good as anybody else and have a legitimate

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shot at winning the biggest trophies. I'm looking

00:20:11.940 --> 00:20:15.500
at the contracts of the highest paid players

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in the league. This is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,

00:20:21.299 --> 00:20:25.160
9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, the

00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:28.019
top 20 paid players in the leagues. How many

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Sounders do you think are in that list? Maybe

00:20:35.360 --> 00:20:38.000
one. You can use your words, Alex. This is a

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podcast. It's not visual. Zero. Yeah, zero. There's

00:20:45.579 --> 00:20:52.220
no Sounders on that list. Are we surprised? I'm

00:20:52.220 --> 00:20:53.720
a little surprised we don't have at least one.

00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:59.019
But, you know, I don't expect to pay $20 million

00:20:59.019 --> 00:21:01.920
for a player like Messi or $11 million for Son.

00:21:03.150 --> 00:21:08.769
Almost $9 million for Sergio Buckets. And Almiron

00:21:08.769 --> 00:21:13.210
for almost $8 million is kind of like a bust,

00:21:13.269 --> 00:21:19.750
I think. Lozano is $7 .6 million. He was kind

00:21:19.750 --> 00:21:21.509
of a bust, though, based on production. Yeah,

00:21:21.509 --> 00:21:23.769
but he clearly meant something to the team. But

00:21:23.769 --> 00:21:27.950
then you go down and look at players. He was

00:21:27.950 --> 00:21:31.849
more like a signing to get the Hispanic community.

00:21:32.750 --> 00:21:36.650
fan base into the stadium. That's the way I saw

00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:38.789
that transfer. But Ryan Gall, Dennis Buonga,

00:21:38.950 --> 00:21:43.529
you know, Joseph Paintsill, we should be buying

00:21:43.529 --> 00:21:45.609
players that are similar to those players, in

00:21:45.609 --> 00:21:51.529
my opinion. I just say that we go sign the best

00:21:51.529 --> 00:21:56.430
player on Curaçao or Caraco for my Canadian friends.

00:21:57.710 --> 00:22:01.769
Or sign the top player from North, Macadamia.

00:22:02.750 --> 00:22:10.490
Oh, my God. We don't have to sign the players

00:22:10.490 --> 00:22:16.089
from Brazil, from Spain, England, Germany. Go

00:22:16.089 --> 00:22:19.289
after some players in some of the smaller nations.

00:22:19.490 --> 00:22:23.690
The smaller nations produce talent. I mean, look

00:22:23.690 --> 00:22:31.059
at Danny Buonga. I think the point is, okay,

00:22:31.380 --> 00:22:33.099
yeah, you go down that list. Some of those guys

00:22:33.099 --> 00:22:36.279
are busts. Some of those guys, it's like, okay,

00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.059
yeah, we're not spending $20 million on a single

00:22:40.059 --> 00:22:45.259
player. That's not our business model. But let's

00:22:45.259 --> 00:22:49.279
take our, you know, because clearly I do think

00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:53.960
that Weibel has, so far, I think he's done a

00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.440
positive job. with the resources that he's been

00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:02.339
given as a fan who doesn't know all the contract

00:23:02.339 --> 00:23:04.859
details and the ins and outs of who's making

00:23:04.859 --> 00:23:08.039
what. And like, you know, the, the nitty gritty,

00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:11.839
I do have a generally positive feeling about

00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:16.079
Weibel. I just think that, you know, we have

00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:20.019
to just bump it up a little bit. I mean, I mean,

00:23:20.019 --> 00:23:22.759
we, we are the 15th ranked team in spending.

00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:27.700
And we spend less than $20 million, so Messi

00:23:27.700 --> 00:23:29.660
makes more than our entire team combined. It's

00:23:29.660 --> 00:23:35.980
kind of like that weird, you know, kind of like

00:23:35.980 --> 00:23:38.940
the Mariners thing for so many years. It was

00:23:38.940 --> 00:23:43.039
like you can see them kind of build a good core.

00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.339
And then it would it's just like, oh, just a

00:23:46.339 --> 00:23:50.039
little bit bump up in financial investment. And

00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.619
this team really could be a contender. And then

00:23:53.619 --> 00:23:56.640
look at what happened last year. Right. I think,

00:23:56.740 --> 00:24:00.240
you know, and not that we weren't contenders

00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:04.500
this year, but we just did not we just didn't

00:24:04.500 --> 00:24:07.980
have it to, like, get past Minnesota. You know,

00:24:08.019 --> 00:24:11.589
I mean, we should we should be. We got to get

00:24:11.589 --> 00:24:13.690
past the first round at least especially a team

00:24:13.690 --> 00:24:16.369
against a team like Minnesota no matter what

00:24:16.369 --> 00:24:21.710
the format is or I think for this team is really

00:24:21.710 --> 00:24:25.990
really good as it is, but we Just think about

00:24:25.990 --> 00:24:29.210
what you know Five million more dollars would

00:24:29.210 --> 00:24:33.910
do is it that missing piece? Right ten think

00:24:33.910 --> 00:24:38.599
about ten million dollars What would that get

00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.700
us? Would that be the difference between us losing

00:24:41.700 --> 00:24:44.440
in the first round and making it all the way

00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.220
to MLS Cup and having a rematch against Inter

00:24:47.220 --> 00:24:50.619
-Miami? Which I would have loved. I mean, that

00:24:50.619 --> 00:24:52.960
would have been great. Can you imagine that?

00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:57.180
And let's be clear. We're not talking about spending

00:24:57.180 --> 00:25:00.279
more under the salary cap because we max out

00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:04.889
the salary cap. It's about spending more. On

00:25:04.889 --> 00:25:07.930
DP players or, I mean, I think we do a pretty

00:25:07.930 --> 00:25:10.470
good job with our TAM players considering we

00:25:10.470 --> 00:25:15.029
have Jesus Ferreira as a TAM. But it's, you know,

00:25:15.049 --> 00:25:17.390
instead of paying Jordan Morris $2 million, you're

00:25:17.390 --> 00:25:22.730
paying someone $7 million. Well, Jesus Ferreira

00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:24.769
is a TAM right now because we promised him next

00:25:24.769 --> 00:25:27.630
year he'll be the DP. Only if he performs. It's

00:25:27.630 --> 00:25:29.849
not automatic. And so far, he has not performed.

00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.299
Yeah, I get it's not automatic, but it's, yeah,

00:25:33.420 --> 00:25:35.220
I mean, that's, you know, he bet on himself.

00:25:35.339 --> 00:25:37.359
We gave him the opportunity to bet on himself,

00:25:37.539 --> 00:25:40.839
and, you know, if he's going the way he is, it'll

00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:45.160
work out for him. But, you know, that was part

00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.140
of the deal of getting him at that town. Which

00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:50.940
I think is why our payroll is sort of low, is

00:25:50.940 --> 00:25:54.440
because we've been able to work these contracts

00:25:54.440 --> 00:26:00.670
in an interesting way. But at the end of the

00:26:00.670 --> 00:26:03.650
day, Jesus has to go out and earn it. He didn't

00:26:03.650 --> 00:26:06.089
have a whole bunch of goals or assists this past

00:26:06.089 --> 00:26:10.710
season. So unless he goes on a tear, I don't

00:26:10.710 --> 00:26:12.730
know what his escalators are. I don't know the

00:26:12.730 --> 00:26:18.730
numbers. But if he doesn't hit the numbers, then

00:26:18.730 --> 00:26:21.569
he's not going to be a DP. And then we can use

00:26:21.569 --> 00:26:22.970
that money elsewhere and he'll still beat Tam.

00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.279
He had four goals and seven assists, so not a

00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.240
bad year by any stretch, but I don't think that

00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:33.460
those are probably not a DP escalator. And Jordan

00:26:33.460 --> 00:26:37.460
Morris, he became a DP when he scored 14, was

00:26:37.460 --> 00:26:40.240
it 13? Even though 11 of them were from the wing.

00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:46.240
So yeah, I think obviously it'll depend on what

00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:51.200
those numbers are, but the Sounders have a good

00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.759
quality team. It's just... They're missing the

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.440
X factor. They're missing a Dempsey, an Obafemi

00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:02.099
Martins, a Raul Ruiz Diaz, a Nico Lodero type

00:27:02.099 --> 00:27:06.579
player. And maybe that's because Pedro isn't

00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:10.359
on the field. But that's, I mean, even with him

00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.619
out there, you still need a number nine. That

00:27:12.619 --> 00:27:14.900
to me is the missing. If they had a starting

00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:18.519
level number nine, just starting level, or even

00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:23.039
a slightly better, then I think you... Arthur,

00:27:23.059 --> 00:27:29.619
you go much further. Yeah, I mean, look at how

00:27:29.619 --> 00:27:34.279
well, you know, Musoski did in this team, right?

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:39.740
And as great as he is, imagine somebody who's

00:27:39.740 --> 00:27:47.920
like starting for, you know, starting for their

00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.180
country, right? And maybe it's not... a top eight

00:27:51.180 --> 00:27:53.220
country or anything like that but they're good

00:27:53.220 --> 00:27:56.160
enough to be in international quality starting

00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:01.140
number nine i just i guess overall i'm just kind

00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:04.000
of concerned that you know we used to be really

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.519
good when garth was here in maximizing all the

00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:12.599
little rules and all the mechanisms that the

00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.200
league had to offer within this you know the

00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.519
super strict salary cap and just you know selling

00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.759
international roster spots and i'm not saying

00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:23.380
that we have to stop being smart and stop you

00:28:23.380 --> 00:28:26.839
know using those weird rules to our advantage

00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.440
uh financially and and in building our team but

00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.380
i just feel like we're on the doorstep of this

00:28:33.380 --> 00:28:43.259
league changing uh into into um just there being

00:28:43.259 --> 00:28:47.059
a new landscape where you you do really truly

00:28:47.059 --> 00:28:52.940
have to spend to win. And yes, you got to be

00:28:52.940 --> 00:28:54.859
smart about it too. And I'm not saying let's

00:28:54.859 --> 00:28:58.660
spend money willy -nilly. We can't do that. But

00:28:58.660 --> 00:29:03.220
we do have to spend more money. I just feel like

00:29:03.220 --> 00:29:08.059
that's coming like super soon. And I could see

00:29:08.059 --> 00:29:12.180
a world in which we maybe don't keep up and we

00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:14.569
don't change our ways. And we keep trying the

00:29:14.569 --> 00:29:16.730
same kind of things and it's not working. It's

00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.289
like, oh, why aren't we winning anything when

00:29:18.289 --> 00:29:22.109
Jordan Morris is a DP? It's like, well, that

00:29:22.109 --> 00:29:30.569
might be your answer. Yeah, it does. You do.

00:29:31.369 --> 00:29:33.609
It's a dread that the league is just moving a

00:29:33.609 --> 00:29:36.490
little bit faster than we can keep up in the

00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:40.269
future. And so we got this team, right? Like

00:29:40.269 --> 00:29:42.980
how much longer? Two years? this year and next

00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:45.880
year. And then we're probably going to be done

00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:47.839
with the core of this team. And I think that's

00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.059
really going to be the best of if we're able

00:29:51.059 --> 00:29:53.900
to keep up when we see some of those core pieces

00:29:53.900 --> 00:29:59.099
change out. So even though I want stuff now,

00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:05.920
delayed gratification may be worth it. Yeah,

00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.940
I think that after this summer leading into 2027

00:30:09.940 --> 00:30:12.230
is going to be a big... a big change in the league

00:30:12.230 --> 00:30:16.109
following the world cup. And I think we're really

00:30:16.109 --> 00:30:18.529
going to see the change of a league in 2028.

00:30:18.630 --> 00:30:21.089
Once you know, you have that first year under

00:30:21.089 --> 00:30:22.829
the new calendar under your belt, you're like,

00:30:22.890 --> 00:30:27.650
okay, this is what we can do. This is how it's

00:30:27.650 --> 00:30:30.369
going to be from now on. So we have to start

00:30:30.369 --> 00:30:33.430
planning now to be prepared for when that time

00:30:33.430 --> 00:30:36.069
comes. I mean, they're already way. I mean, you're

00:30:36.069 --> 00:30:38.509
scouting players constantly. They, they have,

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:40.779
who they want to sign for the, probably the next

00:30:40.779 --> 00:30:42.960
three or four years already picked. And obviously

00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:46.279
it is fluid and changes, but they, you know,

00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:47.880
they don't get one, they go to the next, they

00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.019
go to the next, they go to the next. So they,

00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.180
they're always scouting, but yeah, I mean, it's,

00:30:53.220 --> 00:30:57.259
it'll be interesting to see because at that age,

00:30:57.259 --> 00:30:59.460
it's like, what do you do with a, you know, two

00:30:59.460 --> 00:31:03.240
years from now, you know, Russ next gone, his

00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.659
contract for one more year. You. Potentially,

00:31:07.659 --> 00:31:09.500
you have an older Jordan Morris, you have an

00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:15.359
older Christian Roldan. I can't see Yamar still

00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:20.440
being around. The players that we've seen be

00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.880
stars in the past won't be here, and you have

00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.539
to build around new players. Obed will be gone

00:31:27.539 --> 00:31:31.000
one way or another, unless he's a bust, and then

00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.599
he will still be here. But the hope is he'll

00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.599
be gone after the World Cup. And then you have

00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.819
some other bodies that you have to figure out

00:31:40.819 --> 00:31:43.980
what you're going to do with, which makes me

00:31:43.980 --> 00:31:46.200
want to bring up all the offseason moves. I want

00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:50.740
to know what you all think about the fact that

00:31:50.740 --> 00:31:55.299
they declined contracts and Leo Burney, Jacob

00:31:55.299 --> 00:31:59.819
Castro, Ryan Kent, Travion Souza, and then Bell,

00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:03.000
Frye, Giampaolo, and Rothrock are out of contract.

00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:04.880
So those are all the players we know for sure

00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.279
aren't. coming back. And then they picked up

00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:11.920
options on some of those other ones that are

00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.359
now under contract. So what have you thought

00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.259
about this offseason so far and the fact that

00:32:17.259 --> 00:32:22.279
it looks like we're moving on from Fry? Jonathan

00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:27.420
Bell was a pretty good value for what he was

00:32:27.420 --> 00:32:31.019
getting paid. JP obviously barely played. And

00:32:31.019 --> 00:32:33.019
then Rothrock going out to try and sign with

00:32:33.019 --> 00:32:38.660
another team. I think it's all pretty predictable

00:32:38.660 --> 00:32:41.759
until you get to the lay of the trade. We're

00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.480
not quite there yet, so everything else was predictable.

00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:50.599
I don't know. I still got excited whenever I

00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.920
saw him play, so I think I'm different a little

00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:58.980
bit from some of the fan base there. Maybe Fry

00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:01.339
comes back, but I think it's pretty clear that

00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:08.170
Thomas is now the starter. Yeah, all stuff that's

00:33:08.170 --> 00:33:12.269
pretty much on par. Talking to Steph when they

00:33:12.269 --> 00:33:14.690
did his last contract, he was pretty open about

00:33:14.690 --> 00:33:17.789
it. He talked to us all about it, just hanging

00:33:17.789 --> 00:33:21.130
out with them. They were so far apart, and then

00:33:21.130 --> 00:33:25.289
they figured it out. I'd be interested to see

00:33:25.289 --> 00:33:27.190
how far apart they are right now, whether he

00:33:27.190 --> 00:33:29.190
still thinks he deserves starter money or if

00:33:29.190 --> 00:33:32.589
he's willing to come back for less. I have no

00:33:32.589 --> 00:33:34.910
idea what his mindset is. He built his house

00:33:34.910 --> 00:33:37.950
there. He designed it. So I got to imagine he's

00:33:37.950 --> 00:33:39.990
going to end up living here. Coming back into

00:33:39.990 --> 00:33:43.609
his own. On the Sounders. I mean, what a. What

00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:48.009
a glorious idea that is in my mind. I guess that

00:33:48.009 --> 00:33:51.329
dream is dead. I hope for his sake that we were

00:33:51.329 --> 00:33:54.410
a good, like, it was a good, like, I know he

00:33:54.410 --> 00:33:56.369
got injured and all that, but he really had some

00:33:56.369 --> 00:34:00.029
good flashes and, you know, he had to get acclimated

00:34:00.029 --> 00:34:02.549
to the league and get his fitness back up. I

00:34:02.549 --> 00:34:04.470
hope for his sake that he's able to find the

00:34:04.470 --> 00:34:07.369
club that works for him and get the training

00:34:07.369 --> 00:34:09.570
grounds because I need an extra two hours to

00:34:09.570 --> 00:34:13.110
get all the massages and everything. I'm a really

00:34:13.110 --> 00:34:15.650
exciting player, so I hope that this will have

00:34:15.650 --> 00:34:19.869
been a good stop for him along his career. Everything

00:34:19.869 --> 00:34:25.030
else makes sense. I think it's tough with Fry

00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:28.570
because that's the kind of guy you build a statue

00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:32.570
of outside the stadium. I don't know what's going

00:34:32.570 --> 00:34:36.789
on in terms of their communication, what he wants

00:34:36.789 --> 00:34:43.130
to do. I guess I could see him If he feels like

00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:45.670
he can still play, but the Sounders are like,

00:34:45.849 --> 00:34:50.190
no, we can't spend the money on what you're worth,

00:34:50.289 --> 00:34:53.989
what you think you're worth. It's just not in

00:34:53.989 --> 00:34:57.269
our budget, with all due respect in the world.

00:34:57.289 --> 00:35:02.110
I guess I could see him potentially do a one

00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:05.670
-year deal with another team somewhere. And I

00:35:05.670 --> 00:35:08.630
highly doubt that he's going to... pack up and

00:35:08.630 --> 00:35:11.550
move his whole life to somewhere else so it'd

00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:14.650
probably be a just a kind of mercenary you know

00:35:14.650 --> 00:35:18.190
get again get he he deserves to make as much

00:35:18.190 --> 00:35:21.170
money as he can from his career i mean he's he's

00:35:21.170 --> 00:35:26.389
one of the you know top two or three goalkeepers

00:35:26.389 --> 00:35:30.050
in mos history i and i don't think that's very

00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:33.449
controversial to say so you know he should monetize

00:35:33.449 --> 00:35:37.099
um his value as much as he can but is it with

00:35:37.099 --> 00:35:40.840
us or is it with another team i don't know um

00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.980
and then yet i i i saw that we traded leva can

00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:48.559
you guys remind me like what we got from what

00:35:48.559 --> 00:36:00.139
did we get oh is it true oh cash for oh okay

00:36:00.139 --> 00:36:19.309
okay Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Well,

00:36:19.369 --> 00:36:25.789
they have to. Yeah. No, I like this. I think

00:36:25.789 --> 00:36:29.869
they're moving on from players that they should

00:36:29.869 --> 00:36:31.769
be moving on. Either there's not enough there

00:36:31.769 --> 00:36:34.880
or they're... they're you know their best days

00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.300
are behind them like we have to move forward

00:36:38.300 --> 00:37:08.280
you know It was a transfer. It was a transfer,

00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.199
so we got some sort of money. It hasn't been

00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.940
discussed yet. No, because it's out of the league.

00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.760
To Mexico. It frees up an amazing amount of money.

00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:27.679
In fact, there is a lot of money to spend on

00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.480
players available out there. It's not like they're

00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:33.619
not going to sign other players, but especially

00:37:33.619 --> 00:37:37.429
since they now have one goalie right jacob pastor

00:37:37.429 --> 00:37:57.449
has one too and we've seen exactly what you said

00:37:57.449 --> 00:37:59.730
kelvin leardom uh they moved they couldn't pay

00:37:59.730 --> 00:38:01.929
him what he was worth so they they let him move

00:38:01.929 --> 00:38:03.789
on to another team i mean i think brad evans

00:38:04.460 --> 00:38:07.000
That was probably the case, too. He went to Kansas

00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.000
City for one year and then got sent down to the

00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.539
Kansas City minor team and then retired and then

00:38:13.539 --> 00:38:16.300
came back and became a part of the club. So I

00:38:16.300 --> 00:38:19.440
think that we've seen the Sounders do that before.

00:38:19.500 --> 00:38:21.659
They moved on from Ozzie probably earlier than

00:38:21.659 --> 00:38:24.320
the fans wanted, especially considering what

00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.039
he did in Minnesota. But considering how much

00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.800
he was getting paid and they brought in Gustav

00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.840
Svensson, it ended up working out. So the hope

00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.510
is. that they can make some moves to shore up

00:38:36.510 --> 00:38:39.329
you know you got to get a number nine and and

00:38:39.329 --> 00:38:43.389
someone in the midfield now we went from a position

00:38:43.389 --> 00:38:47.550
at cdm that was very very strong to suddenly

00:38:47.550 --> 00:38:51.050
losing two of our cdms with danny leva and uh

00:38:51.050 --> 00:38:54.309
well and natencio got traded at the beginning

00:38:54.309 --> 00:38:56.929
of the year right and then now with jp retiring

00:38:56.929 --> 00:39:00.570
uh that was our deepest position and now We have,

00:39:00.650 --> 00:39:03.570
what, three? Snyder Brunel, Christian, and Obed.

00:39:08.289 --> 00:39:10.070
Then probably more than likely they're going

00:39:10.070 --> 00:39:13.610
to sign Peter Kingston, and he's a CDM from Defiance.

00:39:14.769 --> 00:39:17.230
I'm pretty sure they have about two or three

00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:18.630
guys from Tacoma that they're going to give a

00:39:18.630 --> 00:39:21.090
first -team contract to, see how they look in

00:39:21.090 --> 00:39:24.670
preseason. I mean, was I talking to you about

00:39:24.670 --> 00:39:27.489
this, Alex? I think I want to see us do a little

00:39:27.489 --> 00:39:30.300
more. top heavy roster. I want to see us spend

00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:33.340
some more money on starters and bring in some

00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:36.440
youth players that just bottom, you know, like

00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.280
guys that may not see the field, but pay them

00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:40.940
league minimum. We don't need to pay as much

00:39:40.940 --> 00:39:43.780
money all that far down the roster because clearly

00:39:43.780 --> 00:39:46.239
we need an injection of some talent at some level.

00:39:47.219 --> 00:39:50.059
No. Yeah. And, and given that we're not gonna,

00:39:50.139 --> 00:39:52.980
I don't know if we're doing leagues cup this,

00:39:53.019 --> 00:39:55.940
this season coming up, but I think it's no open

00:39:55.940 --> 00:40:00.210
cup for either teams. due to world cup but i

00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:02.429
mean if we're not doing league cup you don't

00:40:02.429 --> 00:40:06.630
have to build the roster this year to be as complete

00:40:06.630 --> 00:40:10.530
from top to bottom you know just you cannot go

00:40:10.530 --> 00:40:13.250
top heavy let the young guys play during the

00:40:13.250 --> 00:40:16.190
week at the end of the day it's harder to miss

00:40:16.190 --> 00:40:24.650
the playoff than to make it that's true that's

00:40:24.650 --> 00:40:26.469
true in most american sports at this point except

00:40:26.469 --> 00:40:28.800
for baseball I think baseball is the only one

00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:33.159
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00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:41.519
Playoffs? Yeah, as much as we talk down and talk

00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.860
shit about our playoffs, it could be worse. Look

00:42:43.860 --> 00:42:46.699
at Liga MX, where both their semifinals end in

00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:50.340
ties, and the teams that moved on were the ones

00:42:50.340 --> 00:42:52.780
that were placed higher during the table. Was

00:42:52.780 --> 00:42:56.920
that Tigres' match the other day that was 1 -1?

00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:02.380
Was that a playoff match? Yeah, they call it

00:43:02.380 --> 00:43:10.219
the Ligia. They tied 1 -1, and both games tied

00:43:10.219 --> 00:43:13.880
1 -1, so they were 2 -2 on aggregate. But Tigres

00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.940
moved on because they ended up in second place,

00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.079
and Cruz Azul was in third place. And then you

00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.460
look at the other semifinal game, which was Toluca

00:43:21.460 --> 00:43:24.800
versus Monterrey, where that game ended in an

00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.099
aggregate score of 3 -3. And I checked the score

00:43:28.099 --> 00:43:30.539
on Google. Google said Monterrey advances on

00:43:30.539 --> 00:43:34.250
away goals, but that's not the case. Toluca moved

00:43:34.250 --> 00:43:37.210
on because they finished first place. What a

00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:39.670
year for Toluca. They just totally came out of

00:43:39.670 --> 00:43:42.250
nowhere, it feels like. And that was without

00:43:42.250 --> 00:43:44.829
their star winger. He's been hurt for quite some

00:43:44.829 --> 00:43:49.949
time with the hamstring. But they signed a high

00:43:49.949 --> 00:43:54.699
-level striker. That's I mean, that's a weird

00:43:54.699 --> 00:43:56.940
setup, but is it any different than sovereign

00:43:56.940 --> 00:43:59.139
via coin flip like we do with penalty kicks?

00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.639
I mean, that's what penalty kicks are. It's basically

00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.820
a point flip, right? And so you can look at us

00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:10.480
and we had Minnesota, you know, we had them on

00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.219
the aggregate, but we didn't go through because

00:44:13.219 --> 00:44:15.039
we decided to flip a point at the end of each

00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:18.119
game. I mean, it's better than ending on the

00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:19.500
table because then we would have lost either

00:44:19.500 --> 00:44:21.739
way. At least they gave us a chance. Well, I

00:44:21.739 --> 00:44:25.980
mean, but at least you can make the argument

00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:29.039
that made the rest of the season even more important

00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.719
for the other teams because, you know, if this

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.719
isn't a tie, you're going to go ahead by your

00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:40.340
standing. So it makes it a little bit more important.

00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.619
That way, if, you know, you have a system where

00:44:42.619 --> 00:44:44.460
a bunch of teams get in the playoffs, there's

00:44:44.460 --> 00:44:47.489
actually incentives to finish. Yeah, I guess

00:44:47.489 --> 00:44:50.150
you're not playing for a tie at that point and

00:44:50.150 --> 00:44:52.510
go to penalties. You've got to score a goal.

00:44:54.510 --> 00:44:59.869
I think it would definitely change the strategy.

00:45:00.070 --> 00:45:01.530
You know what? I like it. I think we ought to

00:45:01.530 --> 00:45:05.329
adopt it. At the end of the year, we're going

00:45:05.329 --> 00:45:09.929
to hear you saying the opposite. Usually it would

00:45:09.929 --> 00:45:11.690
benefit us because usually we're the higher seeds.

00:45:12.969 --> 00:45:14.730
But can you imagine if we didn't make it through

00:45:14.730 --> 00:45:18.349
the Western Conference final because we tied

00:45:18.349 --> 00:45:26.250
LA Galaxy? Yeah, I mean, I feel like you should

00:45:26.250 --> 00:45:30.030
tweak it, you know, for like, if it's like a

00:45:30.030 --> 00:45:32.250
Western Conference final, it should, okay, like

00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:34.530
that'll go to penalties. But like earlier rounds,

00:45:34.630 --> 00:45:38.269
it really incentivizes your place in the table.

00:45:38.769 --> 00:45:41.150
It's so un -American. That's what it makes me.

00:45:42.630 --> 00:45:45.690
It's just like people, like people who are Euro

00:45:45.690 --> 00:45:48.670
snobs that hate playoffs. And I'm like, there's

00:45:48.670 --> 00:45:51.909
nothing better than playoffs. Nothing. Think

00:45:51.909 --> 00:45:54.610
about like, even, even in the championship, when

00:45:54.610 --> 00:45:56.889
you have the playoffs in order to get into the,

00:45:56.909 --> 00:46:01.210
get promoted. If the season's over, I mean, we

00:46:01.210 --> 00:46:03.769
would have not, the season would have been over

00:46:03.769 --> 00:46:05.550
like a month left in the season. Then who cares

00:46:05.550 --> 00:46:10.250
about the rest of the games? Yeah. No, playoffs

00:46:10.250 --> 00:46:12.570
are great. Playoffs are great. I like playoffs.

00:46:13.090 --> 00:46:16.969
And look at the World Cup, right? Knockouts.

00:46:16.969 --> 00:46:20.230
Alex apparently has a counterpoint. No, I was

00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:22.769
going to say, the same people that are talking

00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:25.570
shit about our playoff system, they love the

00:46:25.570 --> 00:46:29.250
Champions League. And what is it? It's a playoff.

00:46:29.329 --> 00:46:32.309
You have a bracket, and then you go do playoffs.

00:46:32.449 --> 00:46:36.690
In a way, it's like March Madness. Yeah. And

00:46:36.690 --> 00:46:39.179
that's their pride and joy. Oh, the Champions

00:46:39.179 --> 00:46:42.980
League. Oh, the Europa League. Oh, the Conference

00:46:42.980 --> 00:46:43.679
League. I think that's because it has the best

00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.579
teams in the world. Well, we got the best teams

00:46:47.579 --> 00:46:51.280
in America. Oh, that's the U .S. Open. Oh, wait,

00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:56.380
no. They killed that. Oh, we got the best teams

00:46:56.380 --> 00:47:00.639
in Major League Soccer. There you go. Yeah. I

00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:02.440
mean, I guess Canada starts. It's the United

00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.699
States of Canada. What do we call that country?

00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:06.619
This part of America, yeah? North America? Oh,

00:47:06.619 --> 00:47:10.480
that's... The 51st state. Yeah. They can take

00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.480
us with them. That final, y 'all see that, the

00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.340
bicycle kick goal in the Canadian Premier League

00:47:17.340 --> 00:47:21.260
final in the two feet of snow? Oh, I think I

00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:23.039
see that clip. Oh, I think I did. It's incredible.

00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:29.860
Who won that? Ottawa? No. The other team. Ford?

00:47:30.219 --> 00:47:35.219
Calvary? Calvary, yeah. Cavalry FC. Canadian

00:47:35.219 --> 00:47:41.579
team won. Yeah. Vancouver FC is already selling

00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:45.780
tickets to if you buy season ticket, you get

00:47:45.780 --> 00:47:47.300
a guaranteed ticket to the Champions League.

00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.460
Because they made it because of getting to the

00:47:52.460 --> 00:47:58.360
Canada Cup final. Oh, yeah. Having a minor league

00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.699
team in there. I mean, that's why as much as

00:48:00.699 --> 00:48:04.900
I hate that the US Open Cup is fucked up by all

00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:07.539
that stuff. I think they still need a spot in

00:48:07.539 --> 00:48:11.340
the U S open cup that goes to like champions

00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:14.019
league. So just have USL teams and a USL team

00:48:14.019 --> 00:48:18.900
could get into champions league. I thought there

00:48:18.900 --> 00:48:21.099
was a spot for the winner of the U S open cup.

00:48:21.420 --> 00:48:23.800
There might be, but we keep the MLS keeps winning

00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.400
it because they put them in. They still put what

00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:30.360
eight teams in or whatever. Yeah. I think though,

00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.349
if there's a, you know, some owner that wants

00:48:33.349 --> 00:48:36.690
to invest now with the pro rail coming to USL,

00:48:36.750 --> 00:48:39.289
that there's a chance for USL team can, can win

00:48:39.289 --> 00:48:43.070
the open cup. Yeah, I think so. I think it'd

00:48:43.070 --> 00:48:47.289
be interesting if that, I think ultimately USL

00:48:47.289 --> 00:48:50.489
is going to be the second division and MLS will

00:48:50.489 --> 00:48:52.769
be the first division. But I think 20 years from

00:48:52.769 --> 00:48:56.369
now, if you already have pro rail set up, that's

00:48:56.369 --> 00:48:59.170
when the MLS can buy into that. But. You got

00:48:59.170 --> 00:49:02.030
to have no expansion teams for 15 or 20 years

00:49:02.030 --> 00:49:03.929
first because you're not going to tell a guy,

00:49:04.030 --> 00:49:05.829
pay us a billion dollars and then you're getting

00:49:05.829 --> 00:49:12.530
demoted down to the next league. Yeah. What's

00:49:12.530 --> 00:49:19.130
it? That'd be funny. No, I think that I lost

00:49:19.130 --> 00:49:22.170
my train of thought. As much as I'm a fan of

00:49:22.170 --> 00:49:24.230
pro -rel, there's nothing worse than the pro

00:49:24.230 --> 00:49:29.980
-rel psychos on the internet. Yeah, I don't –

00:49:29.980 --> 00:49:35.019
yeah, it's like, you know – oh, sorry. Yeah,

00:49:35.099 --> 00:49:40.719
it's – that coupled with the general, you know,

00:49:40.780 --> 00:49:44.119
Euro snobbery, it makes it a – there are a lot

00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.340
of places on the internet that just suck to be

00:49:47.340 --> 00:49:50.880
an MLS fan. Also, just to be – US soccer fans

00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:54.039
are awful on the internet too. Yeah. Oh, God.

00:49:55.699 --> 00:50:01.130
I – I think the gist of why we're all talking

00:50:01.130 --> 00:50:05.969
about this is because, like, again, we don't

00:50:05.969 --> 00:50:08.150
have a perfect system right now for soccer in

00:50:08.150 --> 00:50:13.730
America, right? It's imperfect. And I don't know.

00:50:13.789 --> 00:50:16.630
There's so much potential for it to be really,

00:50:16.789 --> 00:50:20.369
you know, for it to get better and for just more

00:50:20.369 --> 00:50:23.230
people to get involved. I think a big thing that's

00:50:23.230 --> 00:50:25.210
going to hinder that is, even though we've got

00:50:25.210 --> 00:50:29.070
the World Cup, ticket prices are insane. I mean,

00:50:29.090 --> 00:50:31.190
it's just, it's just absolutely prohibitive.

00:50:31.309 --> 00:50:34.829
And you're seeing this across, you know, lots

00:50:34.829 --> 00:50:37.309
of professional sports where they're really making

00:50:37.309 --> 00:50:40.630
it feels like it used to be like, you know, like

00:50:40.630 --> 00:50:43.750
I feel like baseball should be a relatively inexpensive

00:50:43.750 --> 00:50:46.869
sport to go and watch, especially because there

00:50:46.869 --> 00:50:49.170
are so many games, you know, it's got more of

00:50:49.170 --> 00:50:52.590
a blue collar feel to it. And even baseball is

00:50:52.590 --> 00:50:54.809
super expensive. Now they're really, they're

00:50:54.809 --> 00:50:58.610
really pushing up, the you know the barrier of

00:50:58.610 --> 00:51:00.710
entry to professional sports in this country

00:51:00.710 --> 00:51:05.409
for the you know the the richer and richer you

00:51:05.409 --> 00:51:07.190
know folk i think minor league sports can get

00:51:07.190 --> 00:51:10.889
more popular for that exact reason totally yeah

00:51:10.889 --> 00:51:13.630
absolutely because you can actually you know

00:51:13.630 --> 00:51:17.170
take your family right for professional sports

00:51:17.170 --> 00:51:20.130
it's i couldn't even imagine you know if i had

00:51:20.130 --> 00:51:22.590
a family i was taking everybody and like you

00:51:22.590 --> 00:51:26.059
know buying a hot dog and soda and all the tickets

00:51:26.059 --> 00:51:28.400
and parking and all this and that. I mean, that's

00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.079
just thousands of dollars that I probably wouldn't

00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.199
just have to burn on one game, right? I mean,

00:51:35.219 --> 00:51:37.800
that's crazy. I mean, my hockey tickets, which

00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:39.739
is probably the last year I have them, I've sold

00:51:39.739 --> 00:51:43.840
most of them, are the same price as NFL tickets,

00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:52.039
but there's 41 home games instead of 10. Wow.

00:51:52.179 --> 00:51:57.460
Yeah. That's a lot of money. And granted, I mean,

00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:59.059
I guess I have to pay taxes on it because it

00:51:59.059 --> 00:52:00.900
counts as income. So I'm losing money ultimately.

00:52:01.099 --> 00:52:03.480
But granted, I'm not losing money on selling

00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.280
tickets because I'm mostly selling them for face

00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:09.860
value. And then I go to some games. So I'm getting

00:52:09.860 --> 00:52:12.059
the value for them, which most people don't though.

00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.460
And for me, the big benefit is I get every show

00:52:16.460 --> 00:52:18.599
at Climate Pledge, every event at Climate Pledge,

00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:23.360
I get pre -sale. oh nice that's pretty cool but

00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.659
that's probably the only reason i kept it this

00:52:25.659 --> 00:52:27.820
year i mean because i ended up getting to go

00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:30.039
to wu -tang clan guaranteed and i have this i

00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.000
sit in the same seat every time i buy the same

00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.059
seat because there's it's like above a walkway

00:52:35.059 --> 00:52:37.719
so people might walk by you but you have all

00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.960
the leg room you want it's just it's in the back

00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:42.719
in the club so it's at the way back but still

00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:48.559
like It's some good perks. We get some great

00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:50.340
perks with the Sounders, but we don't have anything

00:52:50.340 --> 00:52:56.139
like that with the Sounders. We'll get free Apple

00:52:56.139 --> 00:53:01.340
TV and a discount at the concessions and the

00:53:01.340 --> 00:53:06.179
pro shop. I will say, I do want to commend the

00:53:06.179 --> 00:53:10.239
Sounders organization on season tickets in the

00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:13.400
supporters section for a 1974 game. That's awesome.

00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:18.219
We need more of that. Yeah. It's good value.

00:53:18.219 --> 00:53:21.539
Yeah, I was able to take advantage of that. But

00:53:21.539 --> 00:53:23.280
I'm not going to be going to all the games because

00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.860
the commute, especially during the week, is tough

00:53:25.860 --> 00:53:28.639
for me. So be on the lookout on the Discord because

00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:31.840
I'll be putting up a ticket for sale sometimes.

00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:34.920
I mean, Nicholas wants those 90 % of the time,

00:53:35.019 --> 00:53:37.800
so he always needs an extra. Just talk to him.

00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:45.159
Although week 19 will be different. Oh yeah,

00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.159
for hosts of the show, they get those for free,

00:53:47.219 --> 00:53:50.360
Alex. Sorry. No, I have to get my 20 bucks back

00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:57.900
for the month. Which just goes to hosting in

00:53:57.900 --> 00:54:04.659
the end. Nobody's making a huge profit off of

00:54:04.659 --> 00:54:09.440
this little economy here. No, even though we're

00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:12.219
the third most popular Sounders podcast in all

00:54:12.219 --> 00:54:17.179
the land. Number one in... Oh, what's up, dogs?

00:54:18.780 --> 00:54:22.300
Yeah, I mean, I think the Sounders are an interesting

00:54:22.300 --> 00:54:25.159
story, but we should probably talk about the

00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:29.420
very big story beyond Wayne Gretzky having really

00:54:29.420 --> 00:54:33.039
bad CTE. And that is the World Cup draw happening,

00:54:33.139 --> 00:54:35.719
which we now know all the games that are happening

00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.480
in Seattle. Well, we know who's playing in all

00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.659
the group stage games. And then... if the USA

00:54:43.659 --> 00:54:46.699
wins the group and then wins against most likely

00:54:46.699 --> 00:54:50.800
Belgium, they would then play at the game. Alex

00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.860
is actually going to in the, it'd be USA versus

00:54:54.860 --> 00:55:02.380
somebody. So it's, it's pretty crazy that it's

00:55:02.380 --> 00:55:05.099
here now, right? Like it felt so far away. And

00:55:05.099 --> 00:55:12.079
now here we are. Here we are. You watch the draw.

00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:18.659
I did not know. I watched you texting about the

00:55:18.659 --> 00:55:23.519
draw. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of crazy that

00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:25.420
they made us sit through an hour and a half or

00:55:25.420 --> 00:55:28.840
two hours of bullshit and Trump getting awards.

00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:35.599
And at the end, he was dancing to YMCA live.

00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:42.400
But just for like the president, the president

00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.869
of Canada. Or president of Canada. The prime

00:55:45.869 --> 00:55:50.949
minister of Canada sounded so regal and smart

00:55:50.949 --> 00:55:54.929
and presidential as compared to our president

00:55:54.929 --> 00:55:59.909
when he talked that it's embarrassing. And I'm

00:55:59.909 --> 00:56:02.329
sure the president of Mexico, she did too, but

00:56:02.329 --> 00:56:03.909
I don't speak Spanish and they didn't provide

00:56:03.909 --> 00:56:07.750
subtitles. So it was interesting for Trump to

00:56:07.750 --> 00:56:09.949
be somewhere where like a bunch of people were

00:56:09.949 --> 00:56:11.909
just talking in Spanish and there was no translation.

00:56:17.429 --> 00:56:21.449
but they got around to it and uh the usa got

00:56:21.449 --> 00:56:28.829
a pretty decent group yeah it's a trap australia

00:56:28.829 --> 00:56:30.889
it makes it a little bit more exciting for me

00:56:30.889 --> 00:56:33.809
because uh you know i i like i i enjoy winning

00:56:33.809 --> 00:56:36.170
i i you know i'm gonna be the guy that's gonna

00:56:36.170 --> 00:56:38.150
play a five -year -old at a game just destroy

00:56:38.150 --> 00:56:41.510
them in your face so uh the idea that there's

00:56:41.510 --> 00:56:43.869
a chance we could get out of this uh group that's

00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.219
I mean, that's exciting. Makes me more likely

00:56:47.219 --> 00:56:51.860
to watch it. So, yeah, it's Monday, June 15th

00:56:51.860 --> 00:56:55.159
at noon, Belgium versus Egypt. That's the first

00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:58.000
game in Seattle, which, wow, that should be a

00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:02.360
fun game. Yeah. And Belgium isn't the power that

00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:04.320
they used to be. Their golden generation is aging

00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:06.500
out. I mean, they're still amazing, right? But

00:57:06.500 --> 00:57:09.500
they're not the Belgium we've known in the past

00:57:09.500 --> 00:57:13.199
few World Cups. Friday, June 19th, the game that

00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.639
I'm going to, USA versus Australia. My dad and

00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:19.480
I are going to go. Wednesday, June 24th at noon,

00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:24.320
Qatar versus one of the, I forget which, but

00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.320
one of the European teams. They have to make

00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.920
it to the playoff. Then June 26th, the day before

00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.559
my birthday, is Egypt versus Iran, which is a

00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:36.420
really interesting match. Then we have the round

00:57:36.420 --> 00:57:39.679
of 32 match at 1 p .m. on July 1st. And then

00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:43.920
at 5 p .m. on July 6th, the match that Alex has

00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.000
a ticket to, the round of 16, which will hopefully

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.420
be the USA versus somebody. We don't know who.

00:57:48.500 --> 00:57:51.920
But Landon Donovan said, yep, we get the USA

00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.000
winning in the round of 16 in Seattle. Then they

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.659
go down to L .A. and win in the elite whatever.

00:57:57.019 --> 00:58:01.380
And then they can go to the final four. And then

00:58:01.380 --> 00:58:03.059
they can go beat Argentina in the championship.

00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:10.019
Yeah, I think whatever. Spain and then France

00:58:10.019 --> 00:58:14.579
and then Argentina. Yeah, I think whatever he

00:58:14.579 --> 00:58:17.260
has, the glue that they use for his hairpiece,

00:58:17.420 --> 00:58:21.099
it's seeping into his brain. Nah, he went to

00:58:21.099 --> 00:58:24.119
Turkey. We're in a trap group. He went to Turkey.

00:58:24.219 --> 00:58:27.599
It's a trap group. That's real hair. They probably

00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:31.380
took it off his ass, but it's real hair. They

00:58:31.380 --> 00:58:34.929
grafted that shit in there. Or his beard hairs,

00:58:35.050 --> 00:58:37.949
because they say facial hair is basically pubic

00:58:37.949 --> 00:58:41.570
hair. It looks like real hair. It doesn't look

00:58:41.570 --> 00:58:45.230
like pubic hair. No, but I think that we are

00:58:45.230 --> 00:58:48.630
looking at this group, and we're overlooking

00:58:48.630 --> 00:58:50.309
our opponents, and that's never a good thing.

00:58:51.710 --> 00:58:54.769
I was listening to Pochettino talk after. The

00:58:54.769 --> 00:58:58.849
team isn't. You heard Poch after when Alexi Lawless

00:58:58.849 --> 00:59:00.469
tried to be like, aren't you happy with the shitty

00:59:00.469 --> 00:59:04.420
group? He was like, shut up, Alexi. These are

00:59:04.420 --> 00:59:07.840
real teams. Yeah, Alexi's the same guy that said

00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:09.599
that the only person better than Pulisic was

00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:15.940
Ronaldo. Yeah. I mean, he's a moron. And he is

00:59:15.940 --> 00:59:19.219
in charge of our USMNT fan base. He's like our

00:59:19.219 --> 00:59:23.099
spokesperson. It's funny. I don't know. A lot

00:59:23.099 --> 00:59:26.019
of people hate him, though. There's not a big

00:59:26.019 --> 00:59:28.380
block behind him. I've never met anybody that

00:59:28.380 --> 00:59:32.960
liked him. Well, he's just rage bait. You might

00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.360
find some in that Discord you're a part of. I

00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:38.079
liked him a little bit back in the day when he

00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:40.739
first was kind of being a troll but wasn't over

00:59:40.739 --> 00:59:43.119
the top with it because people would boo him

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.300
and he would blow kisses to them and stuff like

00:59:45.300 --> 00:59:49.719
that. And partially it was because he ended up

00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:51.539
having... It was when he would be paired with

00:59:51.539 --> 00:59:56.079
Taylor Twelman on ESP... No, on Fox or wherever

00:59:56.079 --> 01:00:00.150
they were. And then... they were sick so he had

01:00:00.150 --> 01:00:02.429
to do it by himself and he was telling stories

01:00:02.429 --> 01:00:04.489
about when he was the first american player to

01:00:04.489 --> 01:00:07.269
move to italy and he would spoke no italian and

01:00:07.269 --> 01:00:09.269
he was all alone and he would go back after every

01:00:09.269 --> 01:00:11.489
game and cry himself to sleep in his hotel room

01:00:11.489 --> 01:00:14.929
and it was like wow dude he was getting real

01:00:14.929 --> 01:00:17.150
deep with it and made me kind of feel bad for

01:00:17.150 --> 01:00:20.469
him and like him and uh but then you know he

01:00:20.469 --> 01:00:23.630
got political uh pro trump stuff and i was just

01:00:23.630 --> 01:00:28.000
like shut up alexi That's always such a turnoff.

01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:32.239
Here's the games in Canada. June 13th, we got

01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:34.920
Australia versus a European playoff team. June

01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:38.579
18th, Canada versus Qatar. June 21st, New Zealand

01:00:38.579 --> 01:00:41.659
versus Egypt. June 24th, Canada, Switzerland.

01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:45.099
June 26th, Belgium, New Zealand. Then they have

01:00:45.099 --> 01:00:48.900
a round of 32 and a round of 16 match. So a lot

01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:50.440
of the same teams. I don't know if I want to

01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:53.480
see... I'd go see New Zealand, I suppose. But

01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.039
I don't know if I... Like a Canada... Qatar match

01:00:56.039 --> 01:01:01.619
does not sound too exciting. I don't know. I

01:01:01.619 --> 01:01:03.840
don't know. Some of these teams that like the

01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:07.820
Qataris, the New Zealand's, Australia's, they

01:01:07.820 --> 01:01:10.260
did. Australia did pretty good last World Cup.

01:01:11.219 --> 01:01:13.760
Yeah. And I will say that at least we're going

01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:15.940
to have Moe's going to be in Seattle for a few

01:01:15.940 --> 01:01:23.000
days. So you guys got your wish. They better

01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:27.400
put Egypt, they better put their camp at Longacre.

01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:30.800
No, he's being rumored to San Diego. For real?

01:01:31.539 --> 01:01:34.980
They need to break the news. Damn it. I don't

01:01:34.980 --> 01:01:38.039
think it's possible. Or maybe, because they might

01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:42.000
have an open DP slot. Oh, Iran's first two matches

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.840
are in LA, and then they play up here, which

01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:48.000
they have a travel van, but you're supposed to

01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:49.980
be allowed in for competitions like this. But

01:01:49.980 --> 01:01:53.099
they didn't allow them in for the draw, which

01:01:53.099 --> 01:01:55.820
is interesting. boycotted it because they weren't

01:01:55.820 --> 01:01:57.099
going to be able to fly into the country anyways.

01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.039
And they wouldn't let Haiti in either. So it's

01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:05.840
kind of crazy. Oh my God. Do we hate them that

01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:11.739
too? Gang violence. Yeah, it's complicated, but

01:02:11.739 --> 01:02:16.679
basically Haiti, they said some Venezuelans helped

01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.360
murder, like some Venezuelans who were living

01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.539
in America helped murder the president and then

01:02:21.539 --> 01:02:23.199
the vice president took over and only has the

01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:28.480
capital. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But really,

01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:31.380
from the news on the ground there, you know,

01:02:31.380 --> 01:02:35.619
running a nonprofit that's there, everyone there

01:02:35.619 --> 01:02:38.760
is pretty much like, no, the vice president had

01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.159
the president killed. And then the CIA blamed

01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:48.519
it on Venezuelans. So they just won't let Haitians

01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:51.960
in. I mean, I think they're afraid of people

01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:58.150
defecting, too. Right. You know, so it's interesting,

01:02:58.230 --> 01:03:02.809
but yeah, it's, it'll, it'll be an interesting

01:03:02.809 --> 01:03:05.130
thing to see what happens, especially because,

01:03:05.210 --> 01:03:07.630
you know, ice is going to be very active during

01:03:07.630 --> 01:03:12.510
this time. And my hope, even though I am against

01:03:12.510 --> 01:03:14.530
them in general, but I hope they kick all the

01:03:14.530 --> 01:03:17.110
crocodile Dundees out of Seattle. That's, that's

01:03:17.110 --> 01:03:18.929
all I'm asking. Leave everyone else alone. Just

01:03:18.929 --> 01:03:23.739
give it to all these crocodile Dundees. I shouldn't

01:03:23.739 --> 01:03:27.960
even joke about ice. Fuck ice. It's good for

01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:33.519
keeping your drinks cold. That's it. Nice one.

01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.199
No, it's good for swelling. I have that on my

01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:42.699
ankle. Oh, that's the craziest. I got hurt coaching.

01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.880
Can you believe that? Yeah, soccer is dangerous

01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.780
even when you're a coach. Yeah, I was like talking

01:03:48.780 --> 01:03:51.909
to my other coach. And then next thing you know,

01:03:51.929 --> 01:03:53.670
I see a kid kick a ball towards me, and I lift

01:03:53.670 --> 01:03:55.849
my foot up, and I put it down, and it was like

01:03:55.849 --> 01:03:58.929
I caught the end of the ball. And all you hear

01:03:58.929 --> 01:04:02.630
is go, timber. Yeah. Did you get your results

01:04:02.630 --> 01:04:06.050
back from your MRI? I got an x -ray, but I'm

01:04:06.050 --> 01:04:08.469
pretty sure I didn't break nothing. That's good.

01:04:08.710 --> 01:04:12.369
That's good. Still, get used to that, young man.

01:04:12.750 --> 01:04:15.809
The older you get, you'll get that injury just

01:04:15.809 --> 01:04:18.869
by sleeping the wrong way. Oh, physically, I

01:04:18.869 --> 01:04:23.909
feel like I'm in my forties. I'm already there.

01:04:25.489 --> 01:04:28.750
Yeah. I mean, I know Nicholas was talking about

01:04:28.750 --> 01:04:32.110
going to Mexico for some matches and Vancouver.

01:04:33.409 --> 01:04:35.409
I definitely, I was hoping that Vancouver would

01:04:35.409 --> 01:04:37.630
have a little more variety. It makes sense that

01:04:37.630 --> 01:04:40.190
we're seeing the same teams play near each other,

01:04:40.250 --> 01:04:42.389
but it just would have been cool to have an elite

01:04:42.389 --> 01:04:47.119
team on the, like in the Northwest. I don't think

01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:52.239
we do. Still looks like a pretty interesting

01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:54.719
slate, all things considered. I'm looking at

01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:58.840
Santa Clara, Levi's Stadium, and the lineup is

01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.699
honestly pretty underwhelming. Qatar versus Switzerland,

01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:09.019
Austria versus Jordan, likely Turkey versus Paraguay,

01:05:09.019 --> 01:05:12.619
Jordan versus Algeria, Paraguay versus Australia.

01:05:13.630 --> 01:05:17.369
And then a round of 32 match. They don't get

01:05:17.369 --> 01:05:22.110
around to 16. Wow. Yeah. So it's like, wow, this

01:05:22.110 --> 01:05:26.090
is, I'm glad I didn't like pay, you know, hundreds

01:05:26.090 --> 01:05:29.929
of dollars for a ticket. Same. The whole West

01:05:29.929 --> 01:05:31.829
coast got screwed other than getting the USA,

01:05:32.050 --> 01:05:37.630
USA, Iran, New Zealand, Switzerland, uh, playoff

01:05:37.630 --> 01:05:42.010
winner, a Belgium, Iran, and USA, uh, UEFA playoff

01:05:42.010 --> 01:05:48.150
C winner. Where are Mexico's great games? All

01:05:48.150 --> 01:05:51.010
in Mexico. Yeah, Mexico City probably. Right.

01:05:51.250 --> 01:05:55.650
So they opened Mexico City against South Africa,

01:05:55.789 --> 01:06:01.710
which was who they opened up in 2010. Yep. And

01:06:01.710 --> 01:06:06.909
then Mexico will go to... They'll stay in Mexico

01:06:06.909 --> 01:06:10.090
City, but they should also play in Guadalajara.

01:06:12.369 --> 01:06:15.530
But they don't have a game in Monterrey. No,

01:06:15.530 --> 01:06:18.269
but out of all that, yeah, San Francisco got

01:06:18.269 --> 01:06:23.409
done the worst. I'd like to see Ireland get into

01:06:23.409 --> 01:06:25.530
that group and then South Korea and Ireland are

01:06:25.530 --> 01:06:30.730
going through. That would be cool. Yeah, Mexico's

01:06:30.730 --> 01:06:35.250
going to get three draws. I mean, the way they're

01:06:35.250 --> 01:06:38.690
playing right now, they'll be lucky to draw.

01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:41.539
Well, I think one of their center backs, starting

01:06:41.539 --> 01:06:43.940
center backs, just dislocated his ankle yesterday.

01:06:44.380 --> 01:06:48.559
He blocked the shot, and the shot was hit so

01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:52.159
hard that when he planted his ankle, he dislocated

01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:59.039
it. Yeah. No thanks. Group of death. Everyone

01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.519
says it's the French group. Just based on how

01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:04.980
good the top two teams are, I'd say because...

01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.900
Brazil, Morocco, those two teams are just unbelievably

01:07:08.900 --> 01:07:15.960
good. Haiti and Scotland are screwed. But truly,

01:07:16.099 --> 01:07:24.059
I think it's that – what is it? France, Senegal,

01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:32.659
Norway, and then – It could be Iraq. It could

01:07:32.659 --> 01:07:37.579
be Iraq. Bolivia or Suriname, yeah. I don't know.

01:07:37.619 --> 01:07:40.059
Group F looks interesting because the Netherlands

01:07:40.059 --> 01:07:42.860
and Japan. I want to sleep on Japan. Definitely

01:07:42.860 --> 01:07:45.940
sleep on Japan. And then Tunisia could be interesting

01:07:45.940 --> 01:07:47.880
too. I've never seen them play, but they are

01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:49.760
very consistent as far as making World Cups.

01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:55.079
Yeah. I mean, here's the fun thing is there's

01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:56.920
going to be a month of just watching soccer.

01:07:57.840 --> 01:07:59.920
And it's one of my favorite things. And it'll

01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:02.079
be at decent times because the games will be

01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:05.380
in between noon and 8 p .m. Like there's no waking

01:08:05.380 --> 01:08:08.340
up at 5 a .m. to go to a bar and watch a match

01:08:08.340 --> 01:08:11.039
or waking up to try and watch a match and falling

01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:13.599
asleep on the couch because it's fucking 5 a

01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:17.899
.m. Like I'm really excited that that we're going

01:08:17.899 --> 01:08:20.159
to be able to watch all these matches. It takes

01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:22.600
me back to 1994 when I was at fat camp in San

01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:25.220
Diego and I would sneak off and I would go watch

01:08:25.220 --> 01:08:31.310
the 94 World Cup. It was a good time. Yeah, I

01:08:31.310 --> 01:08:33.090
think they're going to follow the same scheduling

01:08:33.090 --> 01:08:37.250
as, like, Global Cup. Yeah, a lot of noon games.

01:08:38.149 --> 01:08:40.890
But on weekends, you have some evening games.

01:08:41.510 --> 01:08:45.510
Yeah, the European snobs are upset. But we were

01:08:45.510 --> 01:08:48.289
like, we had to deal with it when we watched

01:08:48.289 --> 01:08:51.489
Qatar and Russia. So I'm like, deal with it.

01:08:51.789 --> 01:08:53.529
If you're a fan of your team, you're going to

01:08:53.529 --> 01:08:55.659
stay up and watch it. If you're a fan of your

01:08:55.659 --> 01:08:58.319
team, you're going to come to the States. Wait,

01:08:58.420 --> 01:09:03.600
aren't all the Euro snobs in the United States?

01:09:04.500 --> 01:09:09.520
He means snobs from Europe. Oh, you're literally

01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:12.340
a snob. The ones that like to eat an English

01:09:12.340 --> 01:09:16.960
breakfast. I used to do that. 2006 World Cup,

01:09:17.060 --> 01:09:19.479
I'd go down to Fido's and eat an Irish breakfast

01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:23.979
while watching World Cup. See, I would like to

01:09:23.979 --> 01:09:29.310
see Northern Ireland in the World Cup. Just Ireland,

01:09:29.369 --> 01:09:31.289
not Northern. Yeah, they still got a chance.

01:09:31.510 --> 01:09:36.409
They got to get through Chechya. Probably Denmark.

01:09:37.789 --> 01:09:39.989
Denmark, yeah. But I think if they win, they

01:09:39.989 --> 01:09:43.329
host. Like if they win the semis, they host.

01:09:43.489 --> 01:09:48.970
Because the team that is not as good hosts for

01:09:48.970 --> 01:09:51.810
some reason. So if Italy wins their first match,

01:09:51.930 --> 01:09:54.590
they go on the road for the match to get through.

01:09:54.689 --> 01:09:58.909
It makes zero fucking sense. But you're rewarding

01:09:58.909 --> 01:10:02.529
the team that is not the higher rated team. But

01:10:02.529 --> 01:10:05.670
you know what? It's helping Ireland. So I want

01:10:05.670 --> 01:10:07.890
to see Ireland get in. The last time they did.

01:10:09.489 --> 01:10:15.109
What, 94? They beat Italy. So I'd love to see

01:10:15.109 --> 01:10:18.550
that again. Yeah, and then that could be interesting

01:10:18.550 --> 01:10:20.449
because they'll be in Group B with Canada, Qatar,

01:10:20.550 --> 01:10:24.510
and the Swiss if Italy were to go through. Yeah,

01:10:24.529 --> 01:10:27.529
yeah. But I don't know. I wouldn't sleep on Nigeria.

01:10:27.649 --> 01:10:30.670
Was it Nigeria? No. And Wales? Nigeria did not

01:10:30.670 --> 01:10:36.289
make it. They were knocked out. They got knocked

01:10:36.289 --> 01:10:41.800
out. Cameroon got knocked out. What's that? NIR.

01:10:44.300 --> 01:10:48.159
Oh, Northern Ireland. What's IRL? They're in

01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:50.920
a playoff. IRL is the Republic of Ireland. NIR,

01:10:51.060 --> 01:10:52.359
yeah, that's Northern Ireland. They're in the

01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:54.039
playoff, though. They have to make it through.

01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.239
But I think they play Turkey, so they're not.

01:10:57.060 --> 01:10:58.840
I don't think anyone's beaten Turkey. Turkey.

01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:04.039
No, Turkey is the group. They're with Slovakia,

01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:07.859
Kosovo, and I don't know who the other one is.

01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:10.159
Oh, so yeah, that's right. The USA is getting

01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:16.060
Turkey. Oof. Oof. That's tough. Especially when

01:11:16.060 --> 01:11:18.119
they kicked our ass not too long ago. I mean,

01:11:18.180 --> 01:11:24.619
we're a different team now, but it'll be a good

01:11:24.619 --> 01:11:26.500
game. It'll be fun to see Christian in the World

01:11:26.500 --> 01:11:28.720
Cup. Maybe on my birthday I need to head out

01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:33.300
to Texas and go watch Jordan play against Argentina.

01:11:38.380 --> 01:11:42.619
No. If Messi probably was not even going to...

01:11:42.619 --> 01:11:44.340
We don't even know if he's going to play. He

01:11:44.340 --> 01:11:47.840
doesn't know yet. It's like 70 -30 % he plays.

01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:52.260
Yeah, I think he plays. I think this is his swan

01:11:52.260 --> 01:11:55.819
song for international tournaments. The game

01:11:55.819 --> 01:11:59.260
that I'm excited to see is Colombia versus Portugal.

01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:04.140
I mean, Colombia is a good team. Colombia is

01:12:04.140 --> 01:12:06.800
a good offense, especially Luis Diaz, the way

01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:09.600
that he's been playing this season. Yeah. And

01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:12.439
unfortunately, Portugal should be without Ronaldo

01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:16.180
for the first one to two matches. But FIFA decided

01:12:16.180 --> 01:12:18.500
to go for money instead of following the rules.

01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:21.340
And he got his red card rescinded, even though

01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:24.600
it was clearly a red card. And so he will not.

01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.479
Ireland once again saves the world by getting

01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:30.850
Ronaldo kicked out of the World Cup. And then

01:12:30.850 --> 01:12:37.649
FIFA's like, nope. Such a bummer. Such a bummer.

01:12:37.770 --> 01:12:40.170
And then I'm also excited to see Brazil -Morocco.

01:12:40.449 --> 01:12:43.109
Yeah, that might be the best game of the entire

01:12:43.109 --> 01:12:48.329
group stages. I don't know. Maybe Germany and

01:12:48.329 --> 01:12:55.069
Morocco. But that's the World Cup. Netherlands

01:12:55.069 --> 01:12:59.890
-Japan could be interesting. My guess is that

01:12:59.890 --> 01:13:06.390
we can all go to one of those lesser matches

01:13:06.390 --> 01:13:10.369
and tickets will be relatively reasonably priced

01:13:10.369 --> 01:13:13.029
because they're going to be on the aftermarket

01:13:13.029 --> 01:13:15.890
and people are going to be wanting to move on

01:13:15.890 --> 01:13:21.289
from them. I think people that went in, and I

01:13:21.289 --> 01:13:22.890
don't know what they were thinking, they went

01:13:22.890 --> 01:13:25.289
in and bought group stage matches not knowing

01:13:25.289 --> 01:13:27.439
who was going to play, and it was like... Should

01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:32.279
have only bought the USA match. And the bad thing

01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:36.520
is FIFA is profiting off of the resellers. There's

01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:39.739
no longer a cap on tickets. They get money from

01:13:39.739 --> 01:13:43.020
both the seller and the buyer. They get a percentage.

01:13:43.340 --> 01:13:45.699
And so they want the price to go as high as possible.

01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.720
So they don't care about how much people are

01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:50.420
charging. They don't want to put a max on it

01:13:50.420 --> 01:13:52.220
because they make more money if tickets go for

01:13:52.220 --> 01:13:57.920
more. So that's why. Even with dynamic pricing,

01:13:58.100 --> 01:14:00.760
they're allowing the secondary market to be so

01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:02.479
high because they also control the secondary

01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:07.399
market. Good job. Awesome. Good job, FIFA. You

01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:11.460
rule. But most importantly, we have the peace

01:14:11.460 --> 01:14:16.000
president right now. Yeah. The FIFA. We did it,

01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:19.279
guys. They gave him that so he wouldn't steal

01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.680
the World Cup trophy or medal from Portugal when

01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:24.300
they won the World Cup. Portugal ain't winning

01:14:24.300 --> 01:14:26.949
shit. They're going to rig it for Ronaldo. It's

01:14:26.949 --> 01:14:30.689
already been... Just like how they said they

01:14:30.689 --> 01:14:32.590
rigged it for Argentina, they're doing it for

01:14:32.590 --> 01:14:36.670
Portugal. The only people who say that are Netherlands

01:14:36.670 --> 01:14:39.010
fans and Netherlands didn't even deserve to be

01:14:39.010 --> 01:14:45.010
in that game the way they cheat. They're just

01:14:45.010 --> 01:14:48.470
sore losers. And their players are sore losers

01:14:48.470 --> 01:14:52.050
too. Their star center back runs away and shows

01:14:52.050 --> 01:14:53.850
his butt to deflect the ball and then goes in.

01:14:58.180 --> 01:15:00.439
Well, we've been rambling for a while about the

01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.119
World Cup. Any other thoughts before we get out

01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:05.859
of here? It looks like Dan's ready for bed. No,

01:15:05.859 --> 01:15:13.220
it is bedtime. Almost 8 o 'clock. Who's everybody's

01:15:13.220 --> 01:15:15.520
pick for winning the World Cup? Oh, it's too

01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.560
early. Let me see who else is in the group. I

01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:23.279
know it's too early. I'll give you the final.

01:15:24.380 --> 01:15:26.260
I'll give you the final. It'll be Argentina and

01:15:26.260 --> 01:15:31.880
Spain. USA is beating Spain. Yeah, I mean, your

01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:35.119
mom's going to dance on it. He's 17 years old.

01:15:35.220 --> 01:15:40.539
He's going to be like, where's my mommy? They

01:15:40.539 --> 01:15:43.340
probably won't even play for them. I think France

01:15:43.340 --> 01:15:47.739
is the deepest team. They have to show up and

01:15:47.739 --> 01:15:50.560
actually score goals, but they, based on their

01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:52.479
depth, probably I would put them at the highest

01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:55.739
odds to win. And I wouldn't count out England.

01:15:57.140 --> 01:16:00.699
I don't obviously want them to win. And if they

01:16:00.699 --> 01:16:04.260
do, we've got to start another revolutionary

01:16:04.260 --> 01:16:08.960
war against them. But as Alexi Lalas said, but

01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:13.479
he was like, never on the 250th or whatever 25th

01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:19.079
anniversary. We can't let the British win. They'll

01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:22.050
beat themselves. I mean, he's right. They'll

01:16:22.050 --> 01:16:24.470
lose in penalties. They'll find a way to choke.

01:16:24.529 --> 01:16:26.090
Gary Kane's going to sky the ball like he did

01:16:26.090 --> 01:16:30.489
that last World Cup. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think

01:16:30.489 --> 01:16:32.069
they'll still make it far. I think it's going

01:16:32.069 --> 01:16:35.409
to be the – we might have a surprise in the round

01:16:35.409 --> 01:16:37.609
of like with eight teams left. I don't think

01:16:37.609 --> 01:16:40.369
– is that the quarterfinals? I don't think we

01:16:40.369 --> 01:16:43.430
see any surprises in the semifinals. I think

01:16:43.430 --> 01:16:46.970
it's going to be France. You know, there'll be

01:16:46.970 --> 01:16:48.949
six to eight teams that could probably make it

01:16:48.949 --> 01:16:54.670
there. France, Argentina, Spain, Germany. Just

01:16:54.670 --> 01:16:59.029
kind of depends on Portugal. Depends on the brackets

01:16:59.029 --> 01:17:03.210
and how it works out. Well, they kind of set

01:17:03.210 --> 01:17:04.649
up the brackets in a way where they wouldn't

01:17:04.649 --> 01:17:06.430
play, like the top teams aren't going to play

01:17:06.430 --> 01:17:08.149
each other until the final. That is kind of a

01:17:08.149 --> 01:17:10.069
bummer, right? It would have been much more fun

01:17:10.069 --> 01:17:14.109
if you had to have like the round of 32 is France,

01:17:14.170 --> 01:17:17.359
Spain. knock one of them out early, which guarantees

01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:20.520
a lower -seeded team to make it up there. But,

01:17:20.539 --> 01:17:23.079
I mean, at the end of the day, the game isn't

01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.159
played on paper. It's played on the field. And

01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:26.880
you could have the best team on paper, but if

01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:30.020
you don't show up, you know, we've seen that

01:17:30.020 --> 01:17:34.319
happen before. You could be like Columbia, and

01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:36.199
your families could have been kidnapped, and

01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:38.979
you were told you had to lose. Otherwise, you

01:17:38.979 --> 01:17:42.380
are going to have your family murdered. Oh, that's

01:17:42.380 --> 01:17:45.140
what they're going to do with the... With Caraco.

01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:56.220
Poor Curacao. I know. I'm picking the United

01:17:56.220 --> 01:18:03.180
States. Because why not? Because if they do end

01:18:03.180 --> 01:18:04.739
up winning, I'm going to look like a fucking

01:18:04.739 --> 01:18:07.840
badass. They should have some extra oomph that

01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:10.640
I think they could get past the round of 16 into

01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:13.000
the round of 8. I mean, I think that's a possibility.

01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:15.960
I think it depends on who gets called up. Yeah,

01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:18.380
it depends on who gets called up. It depends

01:18:18.380 --> 01:18:20.819
on the path they have to go through to play.

01:18:21.779 --> 01:18:26.199
But I think with the home crowd, I think they

01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:31.079
can draw some stuff off of that. It'll be a home

01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:33.140
crowd at that point. The only team that would

01:18:33.140 --> 01:18:35.460
outdraw the USA would be Mexico, and I don't

01:18:35.460 --> 01:18:38.800
think there's any path for them to meet that

01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:42.420
early. They got to make it out their group first.

01:18:43.890 --> 01:18:46.390
Yeah, Mexico does. They got to win. They can't

01:18:46.390 --> 01:18:54.670
just draw. No, I just think... I mean, if Christian

01:18:54.670 --> 01:18:57.510
gets called up, then the USA will go far. Yeah,

01:18:57.529 --> 01:19:01.109
I think he will. Poach loves him. Yeah. He doesn't

01:19:01.109 --> 01:19:02.470
even need to play a minute. He's there for the

01:19:02.470 --> 01:19:05.270
locker room. No, but he can play some time. Get

01:19:05.270 --> 01:19:09.529
off the bench. He's been in the high -pressure

01:19:09.529 --> 01:19:14.789
moments. He didn't play last time. Last World

01:19:14.789 --> 01:19:18.949
Cup? Yeah. That was under Greg, no? Yeah. Yeah,

01:19:18.949 --> 01:19:22.229
and then they got knocked out by England. No.

01:19:22.810 --> 01:19:27.130
I thought they tied it. Yeah, they got knocked

01:19:27.130 --> 01:19:35.310
out by... Yeah. 2 -0, I think it was. By cheating

01:19:35.310 --> 01:19:39.270
-ass Haaland. Haaland versus Mbappe is going

01:19:39.270 --> 01:19:45.779
to feed generations for this World Cup. What

01:19:45.779 --> 01:19:50.539
about you, Dan? Any last words? No, I'm interested

01:19:50.539 --> 01:19:56.100
to see what the offseason brings. Yeah, I'm sure

01:19:56.100 --> 01:19:59.100
we'll have a lot more offseason Sounders talk.

01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:01.460
We got stuff coming. There's just nothing happening

01:20:01.460 --> 01:20:03.420
right now. I think we're letting everything focus.

01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:08.399
Well, I think free agency opens in three days.

01:20:08.659 --> 01:20:12.130
Yeah, that's true. Free agency opens up. on the

01:20:12.130 --> 01:20:15.210
either 10th or 11th so uh that's going to be

01:20:15.210 --> 01:20:17.289
the big we'll start seeing if people are moving

01:20:17.289 --> 01:20:20.149
around and if the sounders i mean you've got

01:20:20.149 --> 01:20:23.010
to figure most of the free agents aren't a good

01:20:23.010 --> 01:20:30.949
fit but there might be money uh did they they

01:20:30.949 --> 01:20:32.989
didn't is he actually a free agent he would he

01:20:32.989 --> 01:20:35.210
did they not pick up his option he had an option

01:20:35.210 --> 01:20:38.310
i believe i'm not sure but that's just to name

01:20:38.310 --> 01:20:41.250
that I've been hearing it's Dodson. I mean, he's

01:20:41.250 --> 01:20:43.569
local, which is probably why they're saying that.

01:20:46.109 --> 01:20:49.430
He was born in Seattle and went to Oregon State.

01:20:52.789 --> 01:20:59.189
But let's see. It ended, and yeah, he's a free

01:20:59.189 --> 01:21:04.329
agency. He's in free agency, so he is available.

01:21:05.550 --> 01:21:08.869
Oh, he earned $682 ,000 last year. Yeah, I think

01:21:08.869 --> 01:21:11.989
there's a quote from somebody in the organization

01:21:11.989 --> 01:21:16.050
that he's outside of the price that they're looking

01:21:16.050 --> 01:21:23.590
for. Yeah, although if they're moving on from

01:21:23.590 --> 01:21:25.789
Fry, that's how much money they're going to have

01:21:25.789 --> 01:21:30.010
available just from Fry leaving. Or with how

01:21:30.010 --> 01:21:33.050
much Leva was making. $300K. Leva was making...

01:21:33.660 --> 01:21:37.340
No, but like Leva combined with JP? Yeah, oh

01:21:37.340 --> 01:21:39.500
yeah. They have like one point something million

01:21:39.500 --> 01:21:41.319
available, but do you want to spend that all

01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:43.359
on one player? My guess is they say no, even

01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:47.479
though I think they should. Yeah, because look,

01:21:47.619 --> 01:21:52.460
you sign Yusuke Nomi, he can play in the middle

01:21:52.460 --> 01:21:55.579
and then on the wings. Who's that? The guy from

01:21:55.579 --> 01:22:00.760
Tacoma that was like 20 or more goal contributions.

01:22:01.180 --> 01:22:03.460
Oh yeah, the guy that they thought. they were

01:22:03.460 --> 01:22:04.899
going to sign at the end of last season when

01:22:04.899 --> 01:22:08.119
we had no strikers. Yeah, but he's not a striker.

01:22:08.180 --> 01:22:09.819
He's like a Dempsey. Yes. He's like a nine and

01:22:09.819 --> 01:22:13.439
a half. Yeah. He's a, he's a false nine, but

01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:16.060
we don't, what we need is a poacher. We don't

01:22:16.060 --> 01:22:19.000
need a false nine. We need someone that's a Fox

01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.739
in the box. Someone that plays like moose. I

01:22:22.739 --> 01:22:26.159
mean, Danny's a poacher. We need, we need, we

01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:29.430
need either someone who can run fast. And be

01:22:29.430 --> 01:22:31.170
a poacher, like you said, with Raul. Or we need

01:22:31.170 --> 01:22:34.970
someone big that can be actually Osaze, but starting

01:22:34.970 --> 01:22:37.689
quality. Yeah, because we don't need our striker

01:22:37.689 --> 01:22:40.010
to be in the build -up. Because we have wingers

01:22:40.010 --> 01:22:42.630
that can do that. Pedro can be in the build -up,

01:22:42.649 --> 01:22:44.670
and Jesus can be in the build -up. And Pedro's

01:22:44.670 --> 01:22:48.170
very direct. In fact, our entire... Everyone

01:22:48.170 --> 01:22:51.869
but Nuhu could be in the build -up. I mean, both

01:22:51.869 --> 01:22:54.369
of our center -backs are right back. Maybe not

01:22:54.369 --> 01:22:56.420
Thomas. You haven't seen enough of Thomas. Yeah,

01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:58.140
we don't know about Thomas. You're right. But

01:22:58.140 --> 01:23:01.340
everyone else we've seen have assists. I think

01:23:01.340 --> 01:23:08.800
Thomas could be the coach, Joe. Yeah. Poor Andy.

01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:11.779
It's so sad that he was put in that position

01:23:11.779 --> 01:23:14.779
to be the one that missed the final goal. Nah,

01:23:14.939 --> 01:23:16.899
we had two chances to win. I don't put that on

01:23:16.899 --> 01:23:19.380
him. I don't either, but he had to feel that,

01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:21.739
especially the dumbest rule ever where we were

01:23:21.739 --> 01:23:24.340
not allowed to. have 11 players kick because

01:23:24.340 --> 01:23:26.680
they only had 10. It punished us for them getting

01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.140
a red card. Christian probably would have scored.

01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:33.579
I mean... There was a 33 % chance that he would

01:23:33.579 --> 01:23:36.579
have scored. I would have said yes prior to this

01:23:36.579 --> 01:23:40.659
playoffs, but... Don't let him shoot for the

01:23:40.659 --> 01:23:56.829
USA, though. Yeah. No, but he was probably in

01:23:56.829 --> 01:23:58.949
pain too. So he was in pain the whole shootout.

01:23:59.270 --> 01:24:02.630
So he wasn't fully concentrated. That's true.

01:24:04.310 --> 01:24:07.270
All right, boys, let's get out of here. Where

01:24:07.270 --> 01:24:09.470
can they find you on the, on the discord? Discord

01:24:09.470 --> 01:24:11.289
is a little, I mean, it was, it picked up for

01:24:11.289 --> 01:24:13.569
the world cup, but it's a little quiet. So get

01:24:13.569 --> 01:24:16.649
in, sign up, get in there, talk, talk soccer,

01:24:16.729 --> 01:24:18.090
just cause the season's over. There's always

01:24:18.090 --> 01:24:20.829
stuff to talk about. I went to the, we didn't

01:24:20.829 --> 01:24:22.210
even talk about this. I went to the Ballard FC

01:24:22.210 --> 01:24:27.029
US open cup match. They lost. That was super

01:24:27.029 --> 01:24:31.470
fun. They lost 1 -0 on an 81st -minute goal from

01:24:31.470 --> 01:24:35.729
a team out of Fresno, the armpit of America.

01:24:36.770 --> 01:24:41.590
But they had Quincy Ameriquel on that team. And

01:24:41.590 --> 01:24:44.569
the star players for Ballard were Lamar Nagel

01:24:44.569 --> 01:24:50.470
and... Oh, he got hurt. What's his name? McCrary.

01:24:50.550 --> 01:24:53.029
What was his first name? He used to be a sounder.

01:24:54.050 --> 01:24:57.930
Was his killer role playing? No, not this game.

01:24:58.550 --> 01:25:01.069
He did last year, and he may have played earlier.

01:25:03.369 --> 01:25:06.689
Unfortunately, Ballard. Now there's zero Seattle

01:25:06.689 --> 01:25:09.369
representation with Defiance and Sounders out

01:25:09.369 --> 01:25:13.029
and Ballard knocked out. God damn it. Just root

01:25:13.029 --> 01:25:19.090
for Spokane. Yeah. I can't root for Spokane.

01:25:21.609 --> 01:25:24.069
Why not? What happened? What happened, Cameron?

01:25:24.350 --> 01:25:26.149
They're the ones that hacked his Twitter. That's

01:25:26.149 --> 01:25:29.229
like rooting for Gonzaga. Why would I root for

01:25:29.229 --> 01:25:32.729
them? That's the fucking worst team ever. I also

01:25:32.729 --> 01:25:36.850
don't root for the Spokane Chiefs because I'm

01:25:36.850 --> 01:25:43.250
a Thunderbirds fan. It's Seattle Thunderbirds.

01:25:46.470 --> 01:25:49.949
Don't bring up our case, people. You said Thunder,

01:25:49.989 --> 01:25:55.449
I said Birds. Yeah. I will. All right, guys.

01:25:56.869 --> 01:26:01.449
It's been fun. We need to do this more often

01:26:01.449 --> 01:26:07.630
so that we're in regular season form. Yeah. Let's

01:26:07.630 --> 01:26:09.850
do it. We can get our Spotify numbers up. Yep.

01:26:09.869 --> 01:26:39.550
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