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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say it's cheating. Hello and welcome to

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another episode of Sounders Scuttlebutt. I'm

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your co -host today, Cameron Collins, and I am

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here with the one and only Nicholas Biella. What

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is up, Nick? How are you doing? Doing pretty

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good. How are you? I'm feeling pretty energized,

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pretty excitable. Yeah? Yeah. What about you?

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I mean, unlike you, I didn't have an exciting

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evening of attending, what, kindergarten? PTA

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meetings, parent teacher conferences, slightly

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different, but same, same proof of concept. Um,

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yeah, things that I gotta, I gotta realize are

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a thing. Um, but we got a jam packed mini episode.

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It may not be a two hour long episode, but we're

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going to probably try and keep it under an hour,

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which means that it will probably be around 20

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minutes after the hour knowing us. But before

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we do that, do you have anything in your hand?

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I do. It's non -alcoholic, but I'm also getting

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weird notifications on my phone. That's weird.

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Oh, oh, the worst nickname in sports for the

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best player in sports. Tell me about that. Well,

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I am going to drink a scuttlebutt big dumper

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beer, which is a, I think it's a, is it a golden

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ale? What is this? It's just a, just a nice lager.

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Okay. Crushable lager. What about you? Wow. That's

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a loud typing, typing this there. um i am drinking

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non -alcoholic right now i am drinking holiday

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creamy vanilla coke zero like holiday creamy

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vanilla are santa claus been kidnapped is he

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in your closet what's happening yes yes absolutely

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holy shit that was the dream yeah that's good

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That's good. If you haven't tried it, I highly

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recommend it. It is a quality soda. There you

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go. Soda is very expensive now. I don't know

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why this has happened. Sugar tax. But even the

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non -sugar, these were $10 a 12 -pack. Luckily,

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if you bought two, you got two free. It's true.

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It's just wild what they're doing to us. I don't

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know. I want you to go real quick. And cause

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I want to tell the audience here about my new

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sweatshirt. I just bought, go, go in the chat

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there and click it so you can bring it up and

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look at my new hockey. Cause, cause we're going

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to have a, a first little scuttle, but it will

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be about hockey. So I got a black sweatshirt.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes. I like it. I like it. Yes.

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it says drop gloves punch nazis double hockey

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sticks and in the front it has a sometimes violence

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is necessary it says for hockey cannot complain

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about that yeah so um we got some news today

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a lot of news a lot of news has dropped the new

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uh name for the uh women's hockey professional

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hockey team in seattle dropped the torrent which

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I don't love. Well, it's a tech city. We got

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to illegally stream. I was hoping they'd name

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it the Napster. Napster was more my speed. SoundCloud?

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What was the other one? SoundCloud's still huge.

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Yeah, but no. Napster, and then what was after

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that? There was a few. LimeWire. LimeWire, there

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we go. That's right. SoulSeek. Well, actually,

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it's kind of grown on me over time because, you

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know, Whitewater Rapids, whatever, torrents of

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rain, but the worst logo of any sports team in

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Seattle. It looks like... Oh, it's bad. Some

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people are saying it looks like a toothpaste

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logo. It's not great. No, I mean, this is worse

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than the Chicago Fire rebrand. It's kind of AI,

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low energy. Yeah. But hey, whatever. I'm still

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going to bring the sport. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's

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not. It's I'm just I'm just sad that I mean,

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not that the Vancouver Golden Eyes is much better,

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but I mean, it can be. It all depends on which

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character you choose. If you got I was really

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opening for the same joke. Can I can I I would

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rock the odd job 64. jersey oh that'd be incredible

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um that did you see that they ported that game

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uh to xbox no no oh yeah you can get it it's

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tough it's harder than i remember it being they

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um that's right because you're a playstation

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guy but they might have it on there too but they

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ported it to uh modern systems for those so you

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can actually go play it for those of us who are

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under the age of 35 there was a game in the late

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90s called golden eye 64 for GameCube. Was it

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GameCube? Yeah, it was GameCube, wasn't it? No,

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N64. N64. There we go. Anyways. All right. So

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I've got some scuttlebutt for us, some more scuttlebutt.

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One, we got some year -end awards coming out.

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Oh, yeah. How do you feel about the Young Player

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of the Year going to Alex Freeman out of Orlando

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City besting Obed Vargas? I know nothing about

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that guy. He's definitely playing in the left

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back, I believe. Or sorry, right back. Getting

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some call -ups for the national team. It's definitely

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exciting. The breakdown of their voting results.

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Alex Freeman on the players' vote got 23 % of

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the players' vote. Obed got 21 .4%. The media

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vote, Alex Freeman got 31, Obed got 21, and then

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the club's vote, that's where it really came

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down, where Alex Freeman got 36 % and Obed got

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16%, with Diego Luna finishing as a... not really

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has joined the club here i mean i probably would

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have put diego luna but i also haven't watched

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a lot of his games i just more his impact on

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the u .s national team which is not what this

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is for no i think i think i think it really comes

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down to both alex and diego make more of an impact

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offensively it's like you know the the number

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six is not going to be an mvp type of deal you

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know it's just really hard now with that said

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Let's go to the counterpoint. Oh, wait. Oh, go

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ahead. I was going to say, wait. But Obed also

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was not very good. In fact, he was very poor

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at the beginning of the season. Like, it was

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surprising. I mean, leading into the Club World

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Cup, it felt like all the work that we were talking

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about where he's going to shine and be sold during

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the Club World Cup wasn't happening. He was just

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a dude. Now, second half of the season, he was

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phenomenal. But he didn't have a full season

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of great. I mean, it's the same reason why I

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think Pedro. can't be in the top 11 because I

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think Pedro Pedro deserves it based on what he

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did on the field, but he wasn't on the field

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enough to do it. I mean, you have that award.

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It's fair. And this isn't really a slam on Alex

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Freeman at all. You know, Alex Freeman's had

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a really good year. But I mean, and Obed's got

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the best 21 under 21 or 24 under 24, whatever

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the, you know, so he, you know, so there's kind

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of a split split there. So. The Best 11 came

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out this week as well. And Christian Roldan was

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named to the MLS Best 11. Yeah. Joining, I mean,

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honestly, it's a pretty fair Best 11. Dane St.

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Clair in the back with Tristan Blackman, Alex

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Freeman, Jacob Glensness, and Kai Wagner. with

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Sebastian Berhalter, Evander, and Christian Roldan

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in the middle. I mean, that's just filthy. And

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Denis Buonga, Andres Dreyer, and Lionel Messi

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up top. So I thought that was a pretty balanced

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best 11, and probably one of the first times

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in a long while where this best 11 could actually

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be a real formation. That doesn't always happen.

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Yeah. And all the players are deserving. I think

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I was surprised that Christian was on there just

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because he's never gotten the recognition he

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deserves. And they usually don't go for realistic.

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So usually it'll be like, yeah. So I was pleasantly

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surprised. And I don't know if you saw his speech,

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but he gave credit to his teammates. Of course

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he did. And so did Coach when he was talking

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about it. So going into... game three of the

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playoffs we want to do a quick recap of where

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we stand going into game three for the the league

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yeah and we will say of course we do have some

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scuttlebutt coming that is from the mailbag we

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have several uh four different folks uh gave

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us stuff so don't worry keep listening we'll

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get to we get to the questions you sent us but

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uh the uh so what's going on in the rest of the

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league yeah exactly let's start with the the

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eastern conference so uh philly wins in back

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-to -back games against chicago uh number one

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philly drops the number eight chicago fire the

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uh columbus new york city that series is tied

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1 -1 going into game three which is in columbus

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or sorry charlotte charlotte charlotte not since

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uh charlotte not new york not columbus yeah charlotte

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charlotte city Yep, that's in Charlotte at 4

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p .m. tomorrow. Going over to the number two

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versus number seven, Cincinnati -Columbus. That

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one is tied 1 -1. Hell is real. And Columbus

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balled on them in that second game. Yeah, I mean,

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Columbus is kind of, not equivalent, but kind

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of like the Sounders where maybe they didn't

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have the best regular season. but is not really

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a team people want to face in the playoffs. Yeah.

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And then, of course, you got Miami, the three

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-seed Miami against Nashville. That one's tied

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1 -1. Big news out of that series is that Luis

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Suarez is suspended for off -the -play kickout.

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Yeah, he unsurprisingly, purposefully, kicked

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his foot behind him like a horse does. That's

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what it looked like, where a horse will kick

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you with its foot. Were you just focused on the

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teeth? Yeah. He does love to bite like a horse

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as well. A horse once bit my sister at her birthday

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party. I thought you were doing a Monty Python

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joke. I thought you were like, a moose once bit

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my sister. Oh, God. But yeah, he clearly used

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it as an opportunity to kick back. And I think

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he probably should be banned for the rest of

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playoffs. I mean, if this were a first time offense,

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you get one game. This is not a first time offense.

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He should have been banned from the MLS for his

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transgressions in League's Cup. And he wasn't.

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So this, I mean, I know. Well, it's fine because

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he's just going to be judged to, you know, he's

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going to be getting the Sean Avery, if we're

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going hockey relation, where it's just he's going

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to get judged harsher. Yeah, I just can't get

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worked up over him. I can't give the energy at

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this point. Going over to the east of the west,

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we have San Diego, Portland, which is now a 1

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-1 series after a wild finish in game two. I

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mean, that's the thing about that day. It was

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the World Series Game 7 that went extra innings.

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Oh my God, what a finish there. Yeah, insane.

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And at the exact same time, you had Portland

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scoring the 98th minute to send it to penalties

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and win. And then, of course, Vancouver scoring

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the 93rd minute to send it to penalties and then

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win. Did you see... the interview with kiki uh

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the outfielder for for the dodgers talking about

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when he was trying to make that basket catch

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and he got posterized by his own teammate you

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know i mean it was on the tv but i was in a bar

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we watched it it was great because he's going

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he's talking this interview he's like i thought

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we lost the crowd was quiet like i thought i

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thought we lost you know i thought i thought

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i blew it i got posterized and yeah it was just

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really really interesting um What a crazy, what

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a crazy final four innings of that game. So then,

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of course, going back to the Western Conference,

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you've got Minnesota -Seattle tied at one. You've

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got LAFC advancing over Austin in two games.

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You've got Dallas losing to Vancouver in two

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games. So going into the next round, the conference

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semifinals, Vancouver and LAFC are guaranteed

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to play each other. And then you've got the winner

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of San Diego Portland playing the winner of Minnesota

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Seattle. My question to you is this. Do you think

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this is the right way to do playoffs where you

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once the bracket is set, it's set? Or do you

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think you should recede after each round? Oh,

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I hate receding. I think if you if you're that

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if you're that lower seed and you earn that or

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I guess high, I'll say. I don't know how to refer

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to it lower. If an eight seed beats a one seed,

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you should be in that one seed spot. I think

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you've earned that. I don't like reseeding because

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then you're making it just impossible for the

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eight seed to keep advancing. And it's like,

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no, if you get hot, this is your chance to go.

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I think I agree with that. Of course, it does

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mean that if the Sounders advance, there's...

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I mean, it doesn't matter at this point. San

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Diego, Portland, Vancouver, LAFC. It's the playoffs.

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All four of them, there are challenges no matter

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who we play. Sure, but I will say this. It goes

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to a one -game series after this, and we would

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host Portland. This is true. So now I don't feel

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bad about the fact that I was rooting for Portland

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in game one, and I was happy that Portland won

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game two. So if Portland wins, and then of course

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we win, we would host Portland next round. In

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a one -game series, I don't think that I fear

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any team in this playoffs. I agree. It's just

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no matter who we play, it's going to be stressful.

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That's just the nature of one -game playoffs.

00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:23.919
I just think we saw in this most recent Sanders

00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.259
game what home field advantage means, which is

00:16:26.259 --> 00:16:28.759
something we haven't had until this year. Maybe

00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.559
last year a little bit. we had lost that home

00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:35.980
field advantage. We had lost that early Sounders

00:16:35.980 --> 00:16:41.559
just extra bump that you got. And this year we've

00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.700
just been so solid and at home. And I mean, to

00:16:45.700 --> 00:16:47.440
me, it's night and day what the team is like

00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:49.539
on the road and at home. Well, the other side

00:16:49.539 --> 00:16:53.960
of that is the club, both in Alliance Council

00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:57.059
meetings that we've had and in public interviews.

00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.440
Have stated over the last few years that they

00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:04.700
really had as a big part of the sporting side,

00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:10.279
a strong desire to make Lumen a fortress again.

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And they really were really trying to make that

00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.720
happen. And I mean, Minnesota is the only team

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to have beaten the only North American team to

00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.799
have beaten the Sounders this season in Lumen.

00:17:23.619 --> 00:17:28.829
That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. and uh i i know otherwise

00:17:28.829 --> 00:17:30.549
what about charlotte no that was it just felt

00:17:30.549 --> 00:17:32.730
like a loss yeah we had a few that felt like

00:17:32.730 --> 00:17:35.730
losses they weren't actual losses yeah definitely

00:17:35.730 --> 00:17:38.250
so so that's kind of where we're at with the

00:17:38.250 --> 00:17:43.230
bracket um we have some coaching news as well

00:17:43.230 --> 00:17:46.369
i don't know if you caught that no i don't think

00:17:46.369 --> 00:17:49.710
so yeah there's been some uh oh wait i did i

00:17:49.710 --> 00:17:53.289
did see that the youth usa coach got hired somewhere

00:17:53.289 --> 00:17:58.839
yeah uh in new england Okay. Yeah. So in New

00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.539
England there. So you're definitely starting

00:18:01.539 --> 00:18:03.539
to see some. You're starting to get some news.

00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:10.180
It looks like LAFC has all but unofficially named

00:18:10.180 --> 00:18:15.960
former Vancouver head coach. Oh, my God. What

00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.759
is his name? He's their assistant coach right

00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:24.339
now. He's going to take over. At the end of the

00:18:24.339 --> 00:18:25.640
season. I don't know. I was hoping it was the

00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:28.619
guy that was their coach two years ago that they,

00:18:28.660 --> 00:18:30.599
for some reason fired when he was awesome. No,

00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:35.160
no, I, my brain's not there right now, but anyway,

00:18:36.539 --> 00:18:43.680
he's their current assistant. Yeah. Well, while

00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:45.700
I type this as everyone can hear, I will say,

00:18:45.740 --> 00:18:48.079
did you see that because they got second in the

00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.150
Canadian cup, Vancouver FC. has qualified for

00:18:52.150 --> 00:18:56.829
champions cup yay yay i like that i know it's

00:18:56.829 --> 00:19:01.190
so fun to see uh the you know a lower league

00:19:01.190 --> 00:19:03.609
team make it i want i want to see like usl that's

00:19:03.609 --> 00:19:06.609
the only the only thing for me about the us open

00:19:06.609 --> 00:19:09.390
cup not having full mls participation is if we

00:19:09.390 --> 00:19:11.490
could find a way to get some more usl teams to

00:19:11.490 --> 00:19:16.730
win it so they could i would love to see a sacramento

00:19:16.730 --> 00:19:21.700
republic qualify ricardo clark no Mark Dos Santos?

00:19:21.700 --> 00:19:28.000
There we go, Mark Dos Santos. Okay. Also, DeAndre

00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.960
Yedlin signs a contract extension with RSL. I

00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.420
don't think I saw that coming. Definitely not.

00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.140
But, I mean, it makes sense. That's the kind

00:19:38.140 --> 00:19:40.900
of team where he can stay in a starting role

00:19:40.900 --> 00:19:43.980
and extend that career a little bit more. So

00:19:43.980 --> 00:19:47.920
I get it. I get it. Yeah, and they probably are

00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.970
willing to pay him. Did they say what it was?

00:19:52.190 --> 00:19:56.309
No, just a contract extension through 2027 with

00:19:56.309 --> 00:20:03.170
an option for 2028. Okay. So good for him. I

00:20:03.170 --> 00:20:07.529
want an MLS with DeAndre Yedlin in the league.

00:20:07.670 --> 00:20:11.849
So that part I'm happy for. I just don't particularly

00:20:11.849 --> 00:20:16.789
want to see him playing for Salt Lake. Yeah,

00:20:16.910 --> 00:20:21.400
I mean, it's such a... We've known several people

00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.859
that have worked at the highest levels of that

00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:26.440
organization who don't always say the best things

00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:32.799
about this organization. But apparently the owner

00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:36.799
is a huge coin collector guy. And so he runs

00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:38.680
in some similar circles to some of my friends,

00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.940
which is very weird. Oh, yeah. We won't want

00:20:41.940 --> 00:20:44.059
to shout him out publicly. I mean, we were talking

00:20:44.059 --> 00:20:47.960
about that last week, but yeah. No, but you know

00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:50.380
who you are. Also, shout out to everyone who

00:20:50.380 --> 00:20:52.819
did vote. This was election week for a lot of

00:20:52.819 --> 00:20:54.799
places, except for Kentucky, when everyone kept

00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:58.079
showing up at the polls to vote, only to discover

00:20:58.079 --> 00:20:59.960
that they didn't have an election in Kentucky

00:20:59.960 --> 00:21:03.400
this year. It's next year. So they don't have

00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:05.319
an every year election like we do. Well, yeah,

00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.940
they take one year out of every four off as kind

00:21:07.940 --> 00:21:14.650
of a calm it down. But yeah. I want to start

00:21:14.650 --> 00:21:16.829
talking about the game and then hit the mailbag

00:21:16.829 --> 00:21:19.329
for the second half. Sure. That sounds good.

00:21:19.390 --> 00:21:22.130
I go to break right now. Yeah. Let's take a break.

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Yeah, absolutely. And we do have a World Cup

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.839
question that will be best answered by you later

00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.849
coming out of the mailbag. But the Sounders came

00:23:57.849 --> 00:24:02.349
away victorious 4 -2 this past Monday night.

00:24:02.569 --> 00:24:06.450
And I don't, I know it was for TV purposes, but

00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:08.789
they could have played that game Saturday. They

00:24:08.789 --> 00:24:10.630
could have played that game Sunday. It would

00:24:10.630 --> 00:24:12.490
have been just fine. And it would have been,

00:24:12.630 --> 00:24:15.930
I mean, it worked out in our favor anyways, but

00:24:15.930 --> 00:24:19.529
MLS or probably Apple TV demanded that we play

00:24:19.529 --> 00:24:22.849
it Monday. So on a cold Monday night with a 7

00:24:22.849 --> 00:24:27.660
.55 p .m. kickoff. to a game that went to 10.

00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:31.579
What are you thinking? Anyways. Yeah, it makes

00:24:31.579 --> 00:24:37.420
no sense. But I will say, crowd was very good.

00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.900
I did not expect people to show up. I did not

00:24:40.900 --> 00:24:45.240
expect those people that did show up to be so

00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.640
phosphorus and excited. But I think the team

00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.359
showed up as well. And that brought the crowd

00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:55.720
into it immediately. I mean, yeah, it helps when

00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.359
you get up 1 -0 in the seventh minute, so that

00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:02.200
certainly helps. Yes, absolutely. But they were

00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.720
challenging for goals right away. Oh, 100%. 100%.

00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.720
Let's start talking about the game. So first

00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:12.119
off, lineup comes out, and we see Jordan Morris

00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.759
and Danny Mussofsky in the lineup at the same

00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.779
time. What are your thoughts on that? Going into

00:25:17.779 --> 00:25:19.500
the game, going into the game. Yeah. Yeah. They

00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:21.740
did it at the end of the last game and I wasn't

00:25:21.740 --> 00:25:24.319
surprised. And the way they had done it was very

00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.440
interesting because I noticed when Jordan came

00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.319
on, he and Danny had a conversation where Jordan

00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:31.779
basically was like, I'm going to be on the right.

00:25:31.859 --> 00:25:33.559
So it was almost like they had two forwards,

00:25:33.660 --> 00:25:36.819
but they weren't like both centered. It was one

00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:38.900
in the center and one on the right. Yeah. And

00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:42.859
they were in, and that was actually what we saw

00:25:42.859 --> 00:25:45.470
in this match too, where you had. Sometimes we

00:25:45.470 --> 00:25:47.609
had three forwards. Sometimes we had two forwards.

00:25:47.769 --> 00:25:49.829
Sometimes we had one forward. But it gives you

00:25:49.829 --> 00:25:53.329
that flexibility for both wings to come up and

00:25:53.329 --> 00:25:56.470
be forwards. I was surprised that it was... It

00:25:56.470 --> 00:25:58.970
was almost a 4 -3 -3 in some ways just because

00:25:58.970 --> 00:26:02.730
both Morris, Jesus Ferreira, and Danny Mussofsky

00:26:02.730 --> 00:26:04.970
have all spent a considerable amount of time

00:26:04.970 --> 00:26:07.849
up top in their career. Yeah. But what surprised

00:26:07.849 --> 00:26:11.670
me was Morris on the right, number one, because

00:26:11.670 --> 00:26:15.039
usually we see him on the left. Not always, usually.

00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.079
And Ferreira on the left because this year, when

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.059
he hasn't been at center attacking mid, we've

00:26:20.059 --> 00:26:22.700
mainly seen him on the right. And so they took

00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:24.980
it and flipped it on his head. There's something

00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:27.720
about the way that Jordan and Moose interact

00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:32.500
with each other when Jordan is on the right that

00:26:32.500 --> 00:26:34.640
is paying dividends. And they must be seeing

00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.740
that in practice because at the end of that last

00:26:36.740 --> 00:26:40.089
game... We saw it happen. And while we didn't

00:26:40.089 --> 00:26:42.029
score, we were dangerous. And then this game,

00:26:42.089 --> 00:26:44.190
obviously, we were very dangerous going up three

00:26:44.190 --> 00:26:47.170
nothing in the first 45 minutes. Well, I think

00:26:47.170 --> 00:26:49.269
there's something about that, because it seems

00:26:49.269 --> 00:26:51.650
like even going back to the first game where

00:26:51.650 --> 00:26:54.130
where Danny has a couple of really good chances,

00:26:54.170 --> 00:26:56.630
including that beautiful header attempt that

00:26:56.630 --> 00:26:59.950
really well played Jordan. The way he attacks

00:26:59.950 --> 00:27:04.109
with that pace oftentimes draws people. And Danny,

00:27:04.269 --> 00:27:06.589
you just know he's in those great Wondolowski

00:27:06.589 --> 00:27:09.349
positions all season long. We've been talking

00:27:09.349 --> 00:27:13.849
about that. And if Jordan's, you know, fine with

00:27:13.849 --> 00:27:17.430
making those selfish, unselfish passes, that

00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:19.829
certainly unlocks a lot of opportunity there.

00:27:21.269 --> 00:27:23.970
I think we saw some of the limitations of Jordan,

00:27:24.049 --> 00:27:26.529
though, having not played. out on the wings very

00:27:26.529 --> 00:27:28.549
much this season though where he would he would

00:27:28.549 --> 00:27:30.450
try to do what georgie does a lot dribble up

00:27:30.450 --> 00:27:32.690
and then and then cross it and he just didn't

00:27:32.690 --> 00:27:35.750
have the feet work uh yeah to do we'll talk about

00:27:35.750 --> 00:27:37.589
that a little bit as well especially when when

00:27:37.589 --> 00:27:39.609
things go a little bit wrong at the end of the

00:27:39.609 --> 00:27:41.490
first half spoiler alert and he was in the middle

00:27:41.490 --> 00:27:44.710
for one of those but yeah but but um so going

00:27:44.710 --> 00:27:46.589
in uh in the eighth minute you know we've got

00:27:46.589 --> 00:27:49.329
a we got a we got a corner kick coming rusnak

00:27:49.849 --> 00:27:53.549
um russnack puts the ball in uh gets cycled to

00:27:53.549 --> 00:27:56.029
the top of the box where obed is typically handling

00:27:56.029 --> 00:27:59.930
out hanging out and he just puts a shot you know

00:27:59.930 --> 00:28:02.150
just a quick shot from the top of the box just

00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:04.410
putting it on frame hoping for the best just

00:28:04.410 --> 00:28:10.269
uh uh stop it one touch go um cracks me up that

00:28:10.269 --> 00:28:12.450
dane st clair is immediately trying to signal

00:28:12.450 --> 00:28:16.920
for an offside when um it's not even close. It's

00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.960
not, they VAR didn't even go to review it. It

00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.059
just wasn't close. Yeah. I think, I mean, I think

00:28:22.059 --> 00:28:26.519
what it was, was, uh, Oh wait, I'm thinking of,

00:28:26.539 --> 00:28:29.900
was it that goal or the second one? It was the

00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:32.480
first one. The first one where there was the

00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.200
forward was up. Yeah. And so he was blocking

00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.420
the vision of the goalie, but he was on side.

00:28:37.539 --> 00:28:40.339
So he was on side, but yeah, but, but you could

00:28:40.339 --> 00:28:42.640
make the argument that if he weren't, even though

00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.319
he wasn't part of a play that he was affecting

00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.500
the play, which, We know he wasn't, but the MLS

00:28:47.500 --> 00:28:49.140
has called that against the Sounders many times.

00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:55.279
Oh, 100%. Now, if number 13 wasn't, and it was

00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:01.619
a little close, but he's desperately trying to

00:29:01.619 --> 00:29:05.420
run back. Markinich is desperately trying to

00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:07.400
run back to the top of the box. So good effort,

00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.119
but his time was just off. It just wasn't there.

00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.380
It's just fun to watch Nate St. Clair, bitch.

00:29:15.569 --> 00:29:18.490
Really fun. I mean, it's fun to watch the goalie

00:29:18.490 --> 00:29:22.589
of the year give up four goals. Yeah, where's

00:29:22.589 --> 00:29:26.329
the tongue wagging? Maybe did he need to tell

00:29:26.329 --> 00:29:28.410
the ref where to place the ball after that goal?

00:29:28.529 --> 00:29:31.490
I'll give you a spoil sport. It's at the top

00:29:31.490 --> 00:29:35.049
of the circle. He is a chump. And more importantly,

00:29:35.230 --> 00:29:38.400
the fact that... He won goalie of the year despite

00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.539
not being the best goalie, just having the best

00:29:40.539 --> 00:29:42.960
defense. How many times has Steph not won it

00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:44.799
because they were like, oh, he had the best defense,

00:29:44.859 --> 00:29:49.180
so he didn't deserve it? Yeah, I'm not even going

00:29:49.180 --> 00:29:51.420
to get myself worked up over it because, you

00:29:51.420 --> 00:29:55.640
know, whatever. But speaking of Steph, a few

00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.599
moments later, just a few moments later, right

00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:03.869
off of kind of a cross into the box. A really

00:30:03.869 --> 00:30:06.410
quick little touch makes a really good reaction

00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:10.589
save just from the outside of the six. So, you

00:30:10.589 --> 00:30:16.289
know, he's still got it. He's still got it. 20th

00:30:16.289 --> 00:30:20.950
minute. 20th minute, Sounders are trying to get

00:30:20.950 --> 00:30:23.490
the ball in. Christian's coming out to the edge,

00:30:23.609 --> 00:30:26.230
crosses the ball to Jesus Ferreira. Now, I want

00:30:26.230 --> 00:30:29.890
to give Jesus a lot of props here. He does a

00:30:29.890 --> 00:30:34.390
diving header. His diving header comes across

00:30:34.390 --> 00:30:38.609
over. It looks like he's going to go in even

00:30:38.609 --> 00:30:41.609
if Jordan isn't there, right? Yeah. I mean, he's

00:30:41.609 --> 00:30:44.789
putting that header trying to go far post. Yeah.

00:30:45.130 --> 00:30:48.190
But he also, it seems to me that he also very

00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:52.730
much sees in the play that he knows Morris is

00:30:52.730 --> 00:30:55.450
over there. And yeah, it's just really well done.

00:30:56.129 --> 00:30:58.869
Really well done. Big, big props to Jesus Ferreira.

00:30:59.730 --> 00:31:01.970
Very heads up play. I was very pleased with that.

00:31:02.690 --> 00:31:07.190
Yeah. I mean, I mean, he, it was such a quick

00:31:07.190 --> 00:31:12.349
deflection off of Jordan that he actually, I

00:31:12.349 --> 00:31:14.630
mean, James, and it wasn't his fault because

00:31:14.630 --> 00:31:19.309
he was told, you know, James has a spotter that

00:31:19.309 --> 00:31:20.750
tells him who to announce, but they announced

00:31:20.750 --> 00:31:24.269
it being Jesus's goal. Yeah. And then they have

00:31:24.269 --> 00:31:29.130
to correct it, but. And there's no one better

00:31:29.130 --> 00:31:33.990
than James at that. He gives credit to a lot

00:31:33.990 --> 00:31:36.990
of other PA announcers, but we are so lucky to

00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:39.269
have James. You know what's really fun about

00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:41.809
this, though? Once again, Dane St. Clair is bitching

00:31:41.809 --> 00:31:45.089
because he thinks Jordan's off sides, and he

00:31:45.089 --> 00:31:48.130
kind of forgets his own defender is on the touchline.

00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.940
on his ass yeah uh it just makes me laugh what

00:31:51.940 --> 00:31:54.420
a little whiny little bitch his second goalie

00:31:54.420 --> 00:31:57.200
of the year second goal that went right off his

00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.599
hands and into the net wow good job goalie of

00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.099
the year yeah um but what i really really really

00:32:04.099 --> 00:32:07.599
want to point out not just uh jesus's great setup

00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:14.259
was christian jumping and just Being manhandling

00:32:14.259 --> 00:32:18.079
his guy on the outside of the box to make that

00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.900
whole thing happen. He just won the duel. It

00:32:21.900 --> 00:32:25.700
wasn't even close. And yeah, just bang, bang,

00:32:25.740 --> 00:32:28.200
bang. We talked about this last week. The Sounders

00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.859
have been so good this year when they're not

00:32:32.859 --> 00:32:34.900
necessarily trying to hold on to possession,

00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:39.039
but just doing that transition goal. they've

00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:40.640
been doing that really well. This is another

00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:42.799
one of those examples of that transition goal

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.819
just happening. Yeah, and working in our favor.

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.599
Yeah, and so we're not done yet. It's still the

00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:53.079
first half. We're in the 41st minute once again.

00:32:53.539 --> 00:32:55.980
I mean, it's pretty much the same thing. Christian

00:32:55.980 --> 00:32:58.779
being the first one to the ball at the outside

00:32:58.779 --> 00:33:03.150
of the box. Jordan plays him in. He passes it

00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:06.029
to the top of the box where top of the six where

00:33:06.029 --> 00:33:10.190
Jesus is. Once again, Jesus puts it same spot,

00:33:10.289 --> 00:33:13.309
puts it into that back, you know, goes towards

00:33:13.309 --> 00:33:17.470
that back side of the goal. And Danny Mussofsky

00:33:17.470 --> 00:33:21.690
is there just. Beautiful, beautiful setup where

00:33:21.690 --> 00:33:24.670
Jesus doesn't need to get big touches on it.

00:33:24.710 --> 00:33:27.630
He just knows, I know I've got someone going

00:33:27.630 --> 00:33:30.089
to that back post, and I know Minnesota's not

00:33:30.089 --> 00:33:33.890
defending it. So just really great first half

00:33:33.890 --> 00:33:38.049
from Jesus Ferreira. Two assists, a lot of good

00:33:38.049 --> 00:33:40.410
effort there. And then it kind of falls apart.

00:33:40.710 --> 00:33:45.109
It does. Some bad giveaways in transition. Now,

00:33:45.150 --> 00:33:49.380
I do want to point something out. So we got eight

00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:55.039
minutes of stoppage time. Jordan gets the ball.

00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:01.119
He gets played. Obed plays it to his feet instead

00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.099
of leading him. Jordan has to pull up his run.

00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.319
Minnesota just kind of takes it from him. This

00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:12.920
is five yards from the halfway point, five yards

00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:19.059
from midfield. Ball gets lost. And Jordan, if

00:34:19.059 --> 00:34:21.139
you watch that play, a lot of people want to

00:34:21.139 --> 00:34:22.960
go, oh, Jordan, turnover, turnover, turnover.

00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.619
He tracked back. Exactly. His track back. This

00:34:27.619 --> 00:34:32.400
was, Jordan was the least of the problems on

00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.440
this play. It was something that we've seen a

00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.219
lot and, you know, not a good giveaway, but there's

00:34:38.219 --> 00:34:42.409
still five players. behind the ball right like

00:34:42.409 --> 00:34:44.789
there's five players who could have stepped up

00:34:44.789 --> 00:34:46.769
and stopped one of the two players that were

00:34:46.769 --> 00:34:49.469
on a run yeah i mean unfortunately we're up three

00:34:49.469 --> 00:34:53.309
nothing we're in stoppage time the moment that

00:34:53.309 --> 00:34:58.150
jordan loses the ball so if obed leads him we

00:34:58.150 --> 00:35:00.929
are on a break we've got numbers we are on a

00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:05.010
break if he if he plays the ball into space It

00:35:05.010 --> 00:35:08.690
might be for nothing. I mean, everyone is going,

00:35:08.809 --> 00:35:11.670
including, unfortunately, by the time it gets

00:35:11.670 --> 00:35:14.849
taken, Obed and Nuhu are getting passed by the

00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:16.590
ball as the ball going in the other direction.

00:35:17.469 --> 00:35:26.429
So it's now basically a 4v3 the other way with

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:29.210
Jordan trying to get back into there. It's just

00:35:29.210 --> 00:35:32.099
a tough. It's just a tough goal. There was only

00:35:32.099 --> 00:35:37.380
two people involved ultimately in that play because

00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:46.500
it was a beautiful pass. To me, the problem is

00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:48.179
we've seen the Sounders fall prey to this before

00:35:48.179 --> 00:35:49.880
where you give it away in the middle of the field

00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:53.059
and then there's just no way. For whatever reason,

00:35:53.139 --> 00:35:56.340
we cannot stop a team that's speedily transitioning

00:35:56.340 --> 00:36:00.820
back. Early in the season, it was a big problem.

00:36:01.059 --> 00:36:03.039
And last year, it was a big problem. We haven't

00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.659
seen it a lot this season. But it's just something

00:36:05.659 --> 00:36:09.360
that we see from our defenders at times. And

00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.139
to me, it's more emblematic of, I mean, Yamar's

00:36:14.139 --> 00:36:16.579
lost a step. That's just a fact. So they've got

00:36:16.579 --> 00:36:19.559
to play defense a little differently. See, that

00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:24.380
one in and of itself, that one, I'm not even

00:36:24.380 --> 00:36:26.539
worried. I'm not even angry about that one. That's

00:36:26.539 --> 00:36:29.780
just a bad pass. And Minnesota does it really

00:36:29.780 --> 00:36:33.579
well. Well, that's what I mean. That first one,

00:36:33.699 --> 00:36:36.619
I'm not angry about it. Minnesota does a really

00:36:36.619 --> 00:36:41.539
good job for V3 and sets it up really good. This

00:36:41.539 --> 00:36:45.360
next one, I am a little frustrated about because

00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.139
we're at the point where basically Minnesota

00:36:49.139 --> 00:36:53.159
is trying to put numbers forward and Alex intercepts

00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.280
it, passes it to wide open Yamar. Yamar, when

00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:59.780
he... fields the ball has no one within 10 yards

00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:03.820
of him and he's and and minnesota's not even

00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:06.980
pressuring at that point so he's looking he's

00:37:06.980 --> 00:37:10.420
holding on to it for a good you know six seven

00:37:10.420 --> 00:37:13.940
eight seconds and then he loses it at midfield

00:37:13.940 --> 00:37:17.440
and and they're just they're just going the other

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.360
way so i mean really you got to recognize the

00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.900
game state at that moment you just got to recognize

00:37:22.900 --> 00:37:26.050
hey This is not the time to screw around. Let's

00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:29.710
get into the halftime, 3 -1. Unfortunately, that's

00:37:29.710 --> 00:37:32.769
not what happened. Lode gets the nice finish.

00:37:33.730 --> 00:37:36.909
It's 3 -2. You're thinking, oh, God, is this

00:37:36.909 --> 00:37:39.210
going to be yet another game where we blow a

00:37:39.210 --> 00:37:44.469
three -goal lead at home? But moments later,

00:37:44.650 --> 00:37:50.130
Obed hits post with authority. Obed is on a heater.

00:37:50.570 --> 00:37:55.139
Obed is just... having himself having himself

00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:57.500
a game you know he's feeling it he's feeling

00:37:57.500 --> 00:38:03.079
the swag um it felt really good even to miss

00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:07.099
that felt really good going into the halftime

00:38:07.099 --> 00:38:10.920
uh going right back into it that ball pops out

00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.019
the right way danny musovsky's all alone with

00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:18.139
no one around him to just tap it in It made me

00:38:18.139 --> 00:38:20.619
not worried. If you listen to Brian Schmetzer's

00:38:20.619 --> 00:38:25.440
interview with MLS on Apple at halftime, he wasn't

00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.219
worried. I made mention of it in the Discord.

00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:32.780
I was expecting him to be a little bit more angry

00:38:32.780 --> 00:38:35.599
in the interview and annoyed, but I think he

00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.960
kind of recognized that, hey, this is something

00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.960
that's not replicable. We're not going to keep

00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:45.239
making those mistakes, but everything that we've

00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:50.539
seen up to and even after that point was falling

00:38:50.539 --> 00:38:52.820
into what I thought the Sounders game plan was.

00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.820
Yeah. What did you think? I mean, yeah. I mean,

00:38:55.820 --> 00:38:57.800
I think we saw the Sounders come out and do what

00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.489
they needed to do. And it's what we've been expecting

00:39:01.489 --> 00:39:04.269
them to do all along. And we actually saw them

00:39:04.269 --> 00:39:06.789
pull some stuff in from the games at the end

00:39:06.789 --> 00:39:08.710
of the season that Minnesota was losing, playing

00:39:08.710 --> 00:39:10.349
more over the top instead of through the wings

00:39:10.349 --> 00:39:13.809
at times. And it was working. And so I think

00:39:13.809 --> 00:39:16.989
they have Minnesota's number now. It'd just be

00:39:16.989 --> 00:39:21.230
a question, can Minnesota counter in a way? It's

00:39:21.230 --> 00:39:23.909
going to be a game of chess. If Minnesota's coach

00:39:23.909 --> 00:39:26.139
can... come up with a game plan that can stop

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:28.139
the changes the Sounders made, which obviously

00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:30.639
the Sounders have to make some more. But they

00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.059
have found a little something that seems to be

00:39:34.059 --> 00:39:36.199
working against this Minnesota team. Yeah, I

00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:40.699
mean, Eric Ramsey is definitely an exciting coach

00:39:40.699 --> 00:39:46.360
to see for sure. But Eric Ramsey is this young,

00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:49.769
hot, upcoming coach. He's going against Brian

00:39:49.769 --> 00:39:53.170
Schmetzer. This is Brian Schmetzer's 18th knockout

00:39:53.170 --> 00:39:55.849
win -or -go -home game in his career with the

00:39:55.849 --> 00:40:01.210
Sounders. He is 12 -5 going into this game, in

00:40:01.210 --> 00:40:05.050
the 17 games going into this. 12 -5 in a lose

00:40:05.050 --> 00:40:09.590
-and -you're -out situation. Sure, sure. I also

00:40:09.590 --> 00:40:14.190
think we're so far into the playoff. They were

00:40:14.190 --> 00:40:17.480
talking about it before the game. I think Fry

00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.079
has the most games, active games of any player

00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.420
in the MLS in terms of playoff appearances. I

00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:28.360
think Christian's second. And Jordan has the

00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.119
most goals of any active player. I mean, we're

00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.519
talking, they've played a full season's worth

00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:39.280
of games just in the playoffs. So, you know,

00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:42.380
I still question can and will we show up in a

00:40:42.380 --> 00:40:45.690
big game? We've seen it. we have seen them of

00:40:45.690 --> 00:40:48.469
course show up but we're not in a in a big game

00:40:48.469 --> 00:40:50.969
yet i mean this of the caliber of a championship

00:40:50.969 --> 00:40:52.909
game i mean you want to hear something crazy

00:40:52.909 --> 00:40:55.409
though this was this was alex rolled on i believe

00:40:55.409 --> 00:41:00.650
his 253rd appearance for the sounders all comps

00:41:00.650 --> 00:41:04.909
just insane how how quick these these games are

00:41:04.909 --> 00:41:08.070
adding up like some of these players you know

00:41:08.070 --> 00:41:10.849
it was a big deal back in the earlier days when

00:41:10.849 --> 00:41:14.369
oh ozzy hit 200 games yeah and we've got like

00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.460
five players that have all played over 200 games

00:41:17.460 --> 00:41:21.460
for the club. This team has been together for

00:41:21.460 --> 00:41:24.019
so long. It's so impressive. So going into the

00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:25.739
second half, unfortunately, Alex goes off with

00:41:25.739 --> 00:41:27.960
groin tightness. Yeah, I didn't know what had

00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.199
happened. It was groin tightness? Okay. Yeah,

00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:33.460
groin tightness with Kalani Kosarienzi coming

00:41:33.460 --> 00:41:36.099
on. I think KKR played great. I mean, you saw

00:41:36.099 --> 00:41:39.079
Demon Fry play in a way that you don't see him

00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.260
and Alex play, and it worked. Yeah, I mean, it

00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:45.659
worked. It was a good half from KKR for sure.

00:41:47.619 --> 00:41:50.340
Game gets a little interesting. Game gets a little

00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:57.139
interesting when we bring on Paul Rothrock and

00:41:57.139 --> 00:42:01.639
Danny Leyva. How do you feel about Rothrock coming

00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:05.099
on as a 65th minute sub and just running at tired

00:42:05.099 --> 00:42:08.619
legs? I mean, it obviously works. He can put

00:42:08.619 --> 00:42:11.840
all his effort into a short time. I love it.

00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.760
I wasn't sure about the Leva sub, but it worked

00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.320
out. They did seem, I don't know if those are

00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:21.079
the subs I would have made, but you know what?

00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.460
I'm not the coach and it worked. We scored another

00:42:23.460 --> 00:42:26.400
goal and we won. So, yeah. I mean, yeah, they

00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:28.400
may not be the subs you made, but here we are

00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.300
in the 84th minute where Danny Leva beats his

00:42:32.300 --> 00:42:35.960
man, plays a beautiful lead pass into Paul Rothrock

00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.039
who just shoulders to shoulders Harvey and makes

00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.559
him look silly. giving a ball to obed to top

00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:46.719
of the box obed puts it in um ricochet off off

00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.340
a defender but frankly frankly that happens a

00:42:49.340 --> 00:42:52.239
lot with obed he puts those he takes those shots

00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.860
from the top of the box he loves putting it on

00:42:54.860 --> 00:42:59.019
frame and i would say that this season um i feel

00:42:59.019 --> 00:43:01.480
like anecdotally he's got what like that's his

00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:06.510
fourth fifth goal this season i feel like four

00:43:06.510 --> 00:43:10.130
of the five goals have have gone off of someone

00:43:10.130 --> 00:43:13.630
but that's what happens you put it on frame yep

00:43:13.630 --> 00:43:16.170
and that puts the game away sounders win four

00:43:16.170 --> 00:43:19.090
to two and we live to play another day uh yeah

00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:21.369
we will talk about but uh we better keep moving

00:43:21.369 --> 00:43:24.190
along because i know i got like five minutes

00:43:24.190 --> 00:43:28.449
left until real quick Real quick, our score prediction

00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:31.630
challenge. This was a unique game because not

00:43:31.630 --> 00:43:33.030
a lot of people are going to be choosing Obed

00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:35.190
Vargas as the first goal scorer. No, I picked

00:43:35.190 --> 00:43:36.489
the second. Not a lot of people were probably

00:43:36.489 --> 00:43:39.750
taking that over. But we had one, two, three,

00:43:40.010 --> 00:43:45.329
four, five, six, seven, eight people with two

00:43:45.329 --> 00:43:49.190
points. So a lot of us, including not one, not

00:43:49.190 --> 00:43:54.019
two, but all three hosts. Yep. You, me, and Aaron

00:43:54.019 --> 00:43:57.239
all had two points. But let's go Dan the Bastard.

00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:03.699
Dan the Bastard. Eric. Eric13. Who else we had?

00:44:03.980 --> 00:44:09.639
Bryson. Nice. Julie Z, who's been coming on strong

00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:12.380
this second half. Julie's been doing pretty damn

00:44:12.380 --> 00:44:21.869
good. And then Silotum. That is... Is that all?

00:44:21.989 --> 00:44:31.909
Oh, yeah, that is, I think, also maybe related

00:44:31.909 --> 00:44:34.429
to Dan the Bastard. I'm not positive. I have

00:44:34.429 --> 00:44:37.650
to double check on that. You do not know? Well,

00:44:37.690 --> 00:44:41.289
they put Dan the Bastard in their answer there.

00:44:41.929 --> 00:44:47.369
Oh, maybe it's one of his trials. Oh, no, I'm

00:44:47.369 --> 00:44:52.219
sorry. I'm an idiot. That's Paul. oh nice um

00:44:52.219 --> 00:44:56.960
my bad for some reason the match it didn't it

00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.340
didn't refresh so so i'm like wait that's not

00:44:59.340 --> 00:45:01.840
right uh because because he won a few weeks ago

00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:07.639
as well um so good times uh why don't we talk

00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:15.260
about the next game next saturday at one o 'clock

00:45:15.260 --> 00:45:18.360
is it one o 'clock east central eastern yeah

00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.500
1 p .m seattle time one o 'clock seems like a

00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:25.239
dumb time but it is what it is uh and uh it's

00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.519
gonna be yeah i think it'll depend on the chess

00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.800
match and uh which coach comes up with the better

00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.119
game plan and and then can adjust in match i

00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:38.539
think yeah i mean We got a lot of mail bags.

00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.480
Let's hit that up. Let's finish the prediction

00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.599
at the very end. Okay, right now? Let's do it

00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.980
now. Let's do it now. Okay. Who's winning? I'm

00:45:47.980 --> 00:45:50.619
taking the Sounders in a do -or -die game three,

00:45:50.780 --> 00:45:53.719
especially after the confidence here, especially

00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.420
if we go up a goal because I think Minnesota

00:45:56.420 --> 00:45:58.699
is just expecting another heartbreak from Seattle.

00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.750
Yeah, let's see. I originally picked whomever

00:46:03.750 --> 00:46:07.150
wins game one. I mean, whoever scores first and

00:46:07.150 --> 00:46:08.869
also who win game one is going to win the series.

00:46:08.989 --> 00:46:10.969
So I got to pick Minnesota. I think they're going

00:46:10.969 --> 00:46:13.449
to win in penalties. I don't know because Sounders

00:46:13.449 --> 00:46:19.329
scored first and no one won game one. Yeah. I

00:46:19.329 --> 00:46:20.670
mean, I don't know if they count as a scoring

00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:23.070
when it's a penalty. I'm not counting it. All

00:46:23.070 --> 00:46:26.110
right. So we have a mailbox. Tim Hamilton asks,

00:46:26.190 --> 00:46:28.050
how do you bring a sign or poster into the stadium?

00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.000
I mean, I think the easiest thing is to get it

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.300
to a supporter group. I don't know the actual

00:46:34.300 --> 00:46:37.119
rules. Some people can do it every single match.

00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.079
And then other times security just decides to

00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.960
not let you do it. So as Tim knows. Yep. Yep.

00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.559
I mean, getting pre, I would say, call your ticket

00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.420
rep. Get that, get that, call someone at the

00:46:49.420 --> 00:46:53.519
club. Get that okay in advance. Yeah, I think

00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:55.699
it's also going to depend on how big the sign

00:46:55.699 --> 00:47:00.369
is. Oh, sure. But I mean, I know that. What he

00:47:00.369 --> 00:47:02.610
was denied for was a small sign that he would

00:47:02.610 --> 00:47:06.210
bring in any other game. So they just decided

00:47:06.210 --> 00:47:09.670
not to let him have it in this last game. Yeah.

00:47:09.710 --> 00:47:11.929
So, yeah, I would say, you know, you got those

00:47:11.929 --> 00:47:14.570
contacts. But if all else fails, call your techie

00:47:14.570 --> 00:47:18.789
rep, start there. Of course, we... And when you

00:47:18.789 --> 00:47:20.429
get denied at one, go to a different insurance.

00:47:20.849 --> 00:47:22.630
Yeah, we may not have another home game. Eric13

00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:24.909
asks, regarding World Cup tickets for here in

00:47:24.909 --> 00:47:27.550
Seattle, out of all the possible opponents, how

00:47:27.550 --> 00:47:31.039
much would cause... or how many would cause FIFA

00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.980
to increase the price of the USA game here? All

00:47:33.980 --> 00:47:36.059
of them. I mean, yeah, I don't think we're going

00:47:36.059 --> 00:47:38.380
to... Tickets are already on sale. We don't know

00:47:38.380 --> 00:47:39.380
who they're going to play, and you're going to

00:47:39.380 --> 00:47:41.139
buy them before you know who the US is playing.

00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:43.699
So once it's announced, it's going to go up.

00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.059
Yeah. The draw will be in early December, then

00:47:48.059 --> 00:47:51.860
the final... If it's Haiti, maybe, or Cape Verde,

00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:56.820
maybe it doesn't go up, but... No, they're not

00:47:56.820 --> 00:47:59.349
going down. yeah i wouldn't expect them to go

00:47:59.349 --> 00:48:02.150
down other games other group stage games i do

00:48:02.150 --> 00:48:05.449
expect them to go down sure not the u .s and

00:48:05.449 --> 00:48:07.409
keep in mind the u .s game in seattle is like

00:48:07.409 --> 00:48:11.750
30 cheaper than the u .s game in la and the new

00:48:11.750 --> 00:48:17.429
york one yeah it's bad it's bad uh shout out

00:48:17.429 --> 00:48:19.389
to rowdy rousey who asked could you talk more

00:48:19.389 --> 00:48:21.690
about the sounders looking for investors how

00:48:21.690 --> 00:48:23.829
do you feel about a stadium specifically in renton

00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.280
Could it also be to prepare for an increase in

00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.039
salary cap? So on and so forth. Of course, it

00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.179
was announced this, and there's another great

00:48:33.179 --> 00:48:35.920
question after that that we should talk about,

00:48:35.980 --> 00:48:39.219
because I know the answer, but it was announced

00:48:39.219 --> 00:48:41.219
that the Sounders are actively seeking an investor,

00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.900
or investors, plural, potentially, and they've

00:48:44.900 --> 00:48:48.099
hired a firm to help do that, the same firm that

00:48:48.099 --> 00:48:53.059
sold Vancouver. Whitecaps and did something with

00:48:53.059 --> 00:48:54.599
one of the LA teams. I can't remember which one.

00:48:55.900 --> 00:48:59.199
But I mean, we don't know that it's for the stadium,

00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.440
but I would assume it's for some sort of stadium.

00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:07.539
I know talking to folks I know who are internal

00:49:07.539 --> 00:49:10.039
Seahawks employees, there's already chatter over

00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.219
there about the Sounders leaving eventually.

00:49:14.049 --> 00:49:15.989
When that would be, I have no idea. We don't

00:49:15.989 --> 00:49:17.889
have any inside information. We only know what's

00:49:17.889 --> 00:49:23.409
public. But I can say that I think a move to

00:49:23.409 --> 00:49:28.690
Renton would be catastrophic. I mean, it depends

00:49:28.690 --> 00:49:31.670
on what they want. Do they want a fan base or

00:49:31.670 --> 00:49:35.409
do they want to make money? I think one doesn't

00:49:35.409 --> 00:49:38.530
necessarily preclude the other, but one could

00:49:38.530 --> 00:49:41.130
absolutely torpedo the other. Well, I think a

00:49:41.130 --> 00:49:43.840
fan base makes you money, but... If you're just

00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.760
going for the money, you're going to lose so

00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:47.300
many people if you move down there. There's not

00:49:47.300 --> 00:49:50.800
mass transit to get there. The infrastructure

00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.300
is not built yet. Adrian, if you want the money,

00:49:54.420 --> 00:49:58.400
sell the team. With that valuation, there's plenty

00:49:58.400 --> 00:49:59.980
of money. More money than you could ever make.

00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.760
If you want the money, sell the team. I also

00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.900
think that I understand why they would want to

00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:06.960
sell the team. You get no money from parking.

00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.880
You get no money from concessions. You mean build

00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.469
a stadium. Oh, excuse me. Yeah, you said sell

00:50:12.469 --> 00:50:14.429
the teams. I know why they would want to build

00:50:14.429 --> 00:50:16.110
the same. You get no money. The Sounders get

00:50:16.110 --> 00:50:17.909
no money from parking, no money from concessions,

00:50:17.909 --> 00:50:20.849
no money from events inside the stadium. There's

00:50:20.849 --> 00:50:25.449
no grass. They have a bit of a raw deal. Absolutely.

00:50:25.750 --> 00:50:31.349
I will point out that I do largely believe that

00:50:31.349 --> 00:50:34.889
both things can be true, that both Adrian would,

00:50:35.090 --> 00:50:38.329
in a perfect world, want his own stadium, but

00:50:38.329 --> 00:50:42.750
he also... understands that if you're not publicly

00:50:42.750 --> 00:50:45.170
talking about these things, you lose your negotiating

00:50:45.170 --> 00:50:48.909
position. Think about the last time the Sounders

00:50:48.909 --> 00:50:52.010
lease was up, was in negotiations, and they were

00:50:52.010 --> 00:50:54.610
trying to talk about, well, the turf schedule

00:50:54.610 --> 00:50:56.570
was supposed to be replaced on this level, and

00:50:56.570 --> 00:50:57.989
it was never being done, and they were talking

00:50:57.989 --> 00:50:59.030
about exploring. I don't know the date that it's

00:50:59.030 --> 00:51:02.829
up, but it's soon. I mean, I think it's within

00:51:02.829 --> 00:51:06.389
a year, I think. I think the exercise, yeah.

00:51:08.259 --> 00:51:10.559
But, but I do know that the sounder, I mean,

00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.880
the, the Seahawks have made fourth and goal has

00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:14.940
made a bunch of improvements to work with the

00:51:14.940 --> 00:51:17.059
sounders already and are planning to put more

00:51:17.059 --> 00:51:19.460
in. So even if they build a stadium, it's not

00:51:19.460 --> 00:51:22.079
happening for next season. This is a next season

00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.139
thing. This is a long -term. Can I say something

00:51:25.139 --> 00:51:29.860
that maybe people will find controversial? I

00:51:29.860 --> 00:51:32.139
think soccer specific stadiums are fucking stupid.

00:51:32.300 --> 00:51:36.380
I think they're for small clubs that have no

00:51:36.380 --> 00:51:39.010
ambition. And just want to make more money by

00:51:39.010 --> 00:51:42.190
having less seats. You're going to outgrow that

00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:43.590
stadium. Then you have to build another fucking

00:51:43.590 --> 00:51:45.630
stadium. And then it's going to cost the taxpayers

00:51:45.630 --> 00:51:52.309
more money. So one of the things I guess I'll

00:51:52.309 --> 00:52:00.190
say first off is, is the Sounders lease is set

00:52:00.190 --> 00:52:04.289
to expire around 2032. Okay. So that means they

00:52:04.289 --> 00:52:08.219
did one renewal within the last. Few years. Potentially.

00:52:08.219 --> 00:52:11.860
Because it was supposed to be up in the 2020s

00:52:11.860 --> 00:52:13.340
at some point. Yeah, it was supposed to be up

00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:19.760
at 2028. But that was a few years ago. But then

00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.880
they probably ran an extension because the Seahawks

00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.920
lease runs out in 2032 as well. And they probably

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.179
recognize that the value of having them both

00:52:30.179 --> 00:52:32.380
running out at the same time would give maximum

00:52:32.380 --> 00:52:34.820
leverage. Sure. Maybe the Seahawks can move.

00:52:35.340 --> 00:52:37.280
Well, that's what I think is the more likely

00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:41.119
scenario is the Seahawks go to, you know, suburbia.

00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:44.920
Every team that leaves the downtown core to go

00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.380
to suburbia, it's always a shit show. Yep. But

00:52:48.380 --> 00:52:50.099
I will say for the Seahawks, most people are

00:52:50.099 --> 00:52:54.500
coming from suburbia. Yes. But the impact isn't

00:52:54.500 --> 00:52:55.199
as bad for football. The Seahawks game is red

00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.000
state America. It is not a Seahawks. I mean,

00:52:58.019 --> 00:53:01.400
it's not a Seattle crowd. I think we see a Seattle

00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:05.050
crowd. Everyone's not from Seattle. we see a

00:53:05.050 --> 00:53:07.269
largely seattle crowd at seattle games would

00:53:07.269 --> 00:53:09.510
be my compared to other teams would be my guess

00:53:09.510 --> 00:53:11.969
not not large i wouldn't say it's like the majority

00:53:11.969 --> 00:53:15.130
but compared to other teams yeah i mean at the

00:53:15.130 --> 00:53:16.949
same time i guess i would i would want to say

00:53:16.949 --> 00:53:20.349
um this is not the first time that that these

00:53:20.349 --> 00:53:23.530
things have have come up into conversation um

00:53:23.530 --> 00:53:30.110
and and it feels to me like I think the last

00:53:30.110 --> 00:53:33.269
time, let's see, the Sounders signed a 10 -year

00:53:33.269 --> 00:53:38.050
extension of their lease in 2015. But also around

00:53:38.050 --> 00:53:40.010
that time is when we were really talking about

00:53:40.010 --> 00:53:44.690
what happens. Can we do a feasibility for, you

00:53:44.690 --> 00:53:47.550
know, because they did a stadium feasibility

00:53:47.550 --> 00:53:51.710
in 2014, one year before they signed the 10 -year

00:53:51.710 --> 00:53:55.320
extension. So this is part of the playbook. Absolutely.

00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.539
And why wouldn't you? You want to maximize your

00:53:57.539 --> 00:54:02.440
negotiating power. Here's what I'll say real

00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.460
quick. There's a lot of land available right

00:54:05.460 --> 00:54:09.480
now. I mean, it's not for sale. Oh, I'm talking

00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.480
about the land that Chris Hansen bought to build

00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:15.360
Sonic's Arena. It's ready to go. You could fit

00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.400
a soccer -specific, a large soccer -specific

00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:23.699
stadium there. It's true. Long Acres is not where

00:54:23.699 --> 00:54:26.800
it's at. Period, exclamation point. If there

00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.440
was light rail that went to it, I think you could

00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.579
make an argument. For me, driving, it makes very

00:54:34.579 --> 00:54:36.579
little difference. It is equidistant for me.

00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:39.800
But I'm not the person that will be affected

00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:43.079
by it then. We're talking about anyone who lives

00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.619
north of downtown. It makes the commute to the

00:54:45.619 --> 00:54:48.260
game, especially on a weeknight, over an hour.

00:54:48.780 --> 00:54:51.619
Think about how hard it is for us to get to Auburn

00:54:51.619 --> 00:54:55.139
to go to White River Amphitheater. yeah you have

00:54:55.139 --> 00:54:57.440
to cut through downtown auburn in in rush hour

00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.139
traffic it can take that's why you and i when

00:54:59.139 --> 00:55:01.980
we've gone to concerts leave at 3 p .m yeah because

00:55:01.980 --> 00:55:04.099
otherwise if you leave later you're going to

00:55:04.099 --> 00:55:06.079
get caught in the traffic then it it takes a

00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:09.800
8 30 yeah it takes a 45 minute drive and makes

00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:13.960
it a a three hour drive but i mean anyone who

00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.800
doesn't think that stadium location matters i

00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:21.539
would just say go to a sounders game if you live

00:55:21.539 --> 00:55:25.900
north Park at Northgate. Park at Linwood. Take

00:55:25.900 --> 00:55:30.059
light rail down and see what happens. See what

00:55:30.059 --> 00:55:33.039
happens with the transit. Look at Husky Stadium

00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.860
right on the light rail. Look at games and events

00:55:35.860 --> 00:55:39.400
at T -Mobile Park, at Lumen. Look at the weekend

00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:41.000
a couple weeks ago when the Mariners were in

00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:42.940
the playoffs. Sounders were playing Portland.

00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.659
all that going on over a hundred thousand people

00:55:47.659 --> 00:55:50.239
in two days and in that area. And people were

00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:53.539
getting around because of public transit. Yep.

00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.340
And, and my dad takes it to every game. I mean,

00:55:56.340 --> 00:55:58.800
not to Husky games because they park at Husky

00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.719
stadium, but outside of Husky games, he, anytime

00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:03.579
he has to come downtown, they park at Husky stadium,

00:56:03.699 --> 00:56:05.599
my parents and take it down. They're in their

00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.739
eighties. Oh, my mom's in her seventies, but

00:56:07.739 --> 00:56:10.539
regardless they're there, they are elderly and

00:56:10.539 --> 00:56:12.599
that's how they get to games. And it, and it's.

00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:14.800
I mean, it's so convenient. That's how I get

00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.239
to every game but Sounders because I have to

00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:19.920
park to put up banner. Now, the second part of

00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:25.860
Rowdy Rousey's question, estimates of the stadium

00:56:25.860 --> 00:56:28.159
capacity. I mean, if you're doing a soccer -specific

00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:29.659
stadium, they're probably going to be looking

00:56:29.659 --> 00:56:33.659
at between 20 ,000 to 30 ,000. I would hope they

00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:35.019
would go a little bigger, but I think you're

00:56:35.019 --> 00:56:37.969
right. You would hope so, but the reality is

00:56:37.969 --> 00:56:39.530
they're going to go lower because they're going

00:56:39.530 --> 00:56:41.510
to maximize the ticket revenue by pricing it

00:56:41.510 --> 00:56:42.670
higher. And they're going to lose season tickets.

00:56:42.769 --> 00:56:45.090
Yes, exactly. And that's going to be the – they're

00:56:45.090 --> 00:56:46.789
going to rip the Band -Aid. Maybe they would

00:56:46.789 --> 00:56:48.969
get some from Tacoma. I don't know. Maybe they

00:56:48.969 --> 00:56:52.269
would get some more South End support. But I

00:56:52.269 --> 00:56:57.550
think the negative – what's the opposite of goodwill?

00:56:57.590 --> 00:56:59.650
Badwill? I don't think that's the word I'm looking

00:56:59.650 --> 00:57:02.110
for. That it creates would make people not buy

00:57:02.110 --> 00:57:05.880
in. Look at – The scrambling and adjusting that

00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:08.159
the Kraken are trying to do here now that the

00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:11.420
third year is up and people who can get out of

00:57:11.420 --> 00:57:13.980
their three -year lease on season tickets are

00:57:13.980 --> 00:57:16.619
doing so in droves and all the impact. I'll be

00:57:16.619 --> 00:57:18.699
honest. The only reason I still have season ticket

00:57:18.699 --> 00:57:20.719
to the Kraken is last year I was able to break

00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:24.480
even selling them or only lose a little bit.

00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:29.559
And I get pre -sale for concerts. Yeah. Literally

00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.059
the only reason is because I got to see, I can

00:57:32.059 --> 00:57:34.119
go see any. band i want to see that plays there

00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:36.940
if i can afford it unlike rush tickets that were

00:57:36.940 --> 00:57:41.940
330 bucks each yikes but but yeah i mean that's

00:57:41.940 --> 00:57:45.400
exactly so i i i would expect 25 that would be

00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.820
um so the other question there uh that i can

00:57:48.820 --> 00:57:51.360
speak to as well is why are flares banned at

00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.260
lumen and would that change if we had a new stadium

00:57:53.260 --> 00:57:55.860
i have a lot of information on that yeah part

00:57:55.860 --> 00:57:59.369
of it is Part of it is going to be, what is the

00:57:59.369 --> 00:58:01.809
fire marshal going to say? There are rules about

00:58:01.809 --> 00:58:05.489
how it's handled, how it's done, etc. They were

00:58:05.489 --> 00:58:09.510
briefly allowed at Starfire when S2 first started

00:58:09.510 --> 00:58:14.570
for a few games, but then they kind of rescinded

00:58:14.570 --> 00:58:19.090
that. More importantly, it is considered a bomb

00:58:19.090 --> 00:58:23.150
by the ATF, so it has to be stored in a bomb

00:58:23.150 --> 00:58:27.090
safe. And so the club has to store it. That's

00:58:27.090 --> 00:58:28.750
a new rule that's happened in the last three

00:58:28.750 --> 00:58:31.170
years. And so the federal government has essentially

00:58:31.170 --> 00:58:35.809
banned them. And if you have them, you can be

00:58:35.809 --> 00:58:38.250
charged by the ATF if you're not properly storing

00:58:38.250 --> 00:58:41.489
them. So the club can hold up a flare in the

00:58:41.489 --> 00:58:49.329
stadium. Yeah. The other side of that is the...

00:58:51.150 --> 00:58:54.389
nature of cooperation with supporter culture

00:58:54.389 --> 00:58:59.949
and and not and and it's not a dig it's more

00:58:59.949 --> 00:59:06.610
the if if if it's oh yeah if if if a supporters

00:59:06.610 --> 00:59:08.670
group was going to handle these rules and do

00:59:08.670 --> 00:59:11.429
it the right way yep we'd allow it it would potentially

00:59:11.429 --> 00:59:14.469
happen if it was 100 happen i've already gotten

00:59:14.469 --> 00:59:16.369
the okay to have it for gorilla fc if i want

00:59:16.369 --> 00:59:18.150
to do it the only reason i haven't is because

00:59:18.150 --> 00:59:20.809
there's people in the front row who are allergic

00:59:20.809 --> 00:59:22.750
to the smoke and it bothers them but the other

00:59:22.750 --> 00:59:25.989
side of it is if it's if the conditions are that

00:59:25.989 --> 00:59:28.309
it's completely controlled by the club and done

00:59:28.309 --> 00:59:31.409
by the club it's yeah i know i mean it's not

00:59:31.409 --> 00:59:34.130
the club has to the club has to hold it and the

00:59:34.130 --> 00:59:36.510
club has to drop it into a bucket when it's done

00:59:36.510 --> 00:59:39.010
but they do it at the direction of the supporter

00:59:39.010 --> 00:59:42.099
group Yes. No, I get that. But I think there's...

00:59:42.099 --> 00:59:46.119
I think it's a little complicated. Like you mentioned,

00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.280
it is a little complicated. It's definitely something

00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:53.039
I'm okay with not having. But it does... Yeah,

00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.659
it's not going to happen. I mean, the fire codes

00:59:54.659 --> 00:59:58.380
alone make it rough. Also, I mean, for a long

00:59:58.380 --> 01:00:00.820
time they made it so banners had to be pre -treated

01:00:00.820 --> 01:00:02.739
just because flares were allowed and they no

01:00:02.739 --> 01:00:05.369
longer require pre -treated fire. pre -treated

01:00:05.369 --> 01:00:07.630
banners because that makes the cost of making

01:00:07.630 --> 01:00:10.769
tifos and banners significantly higher when you

01:00:10.769 --> 01:00:13.949
have to pre -treat them for fire uh i will also

01:00:13.949 --> 01:00:17.090
say though uh one thing that i hope just doesn't

01:00:17.090 --> 01:00:20.250
catch on is during league's cup after we started

01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:22.769
scoring some of those goals late there was a

01:00:22.769 --> 01:00:25.730
lot of liquids being thrown up into the air um

01:00:25.730 --> 01:00:29.309
yeah a championship game a crazy moment like

01:00:29.309 --> 01:00:33.039
that i get it I never want to see that for a

01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:36.019
random goal against San Jose in the regular season.

01:00:36.539 --> 01:00:39.500
No, it's got to be something special. Yeah, just

01:00:39.500 --> 01:00:43.079
putting it out there. So we have one more, and

01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.860
that was what's next year's lineup going to be,

01:00:46.900 --> 01:00:49.900
but I think it's specifically more, is Andy Thomas

01:00:49.900 --> 01:00:52.320
going to be starting next year? And shout out

01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.800
to Yaya for putting this one in. I mean, yeah,

01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:58.449
yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Never mind. My bad. No,

01:00:58.590 --> 01:01:01.449
all kidding aside, I think it really is going

01:01:01.449 --> 01:01:09.369
to come down to, I think officially, if Stephen

01:01:09.369 --> 01:01:13.769
Fry comes back, it will be under the guise and

01:01:13.769 --> 01:01:19.090
the promise of a true goalkeeper competition

01:01:19.090 --> 01:01:24.070
in training camp. Yeah. I do think that whoever

01:01:24.070 --> 01:01:27.789
wins that competition, the Sounders will do what

01:01:27.789 --> 01:01:31.130
they've always done and give the equivalent of

01:01:31.130 --> 01:01:33.150
League's Cup. There probably won't be a League's

01:01:33.150 --> 01:01:37.630
Cup next year because of the World Cup or Open

01:01:37.630 --> 01:01:42.510
Cup or whatever. They give one of those tournaments

01:01:42.510 --> 01:01:48.369
to the backup keeper. And not necessarily, I

01:01:48.369 --> 01:01:49.989
mean, this is the first year I think we've seen

01:01:49.989 --> 01:01:52.530
a whole tournament go to the backup keeper. No,

01:01:52.530 --> 01:01:56.150
it's been stated that, but we've just never had

01:01:56.150 --> 01:01:57.670
to put it to a test because we've never gotten

01:01:57.670 --> 01:01:59.369
to, like, the final four games. Oh, we've had

01:01:59.369 --> 01:02:01.690
plenty of time, though, in the U .S. Open Cup

01:02:01.690 --> 01:02:03.570
where we have our backup keeper in until the

01:02:03.570 --> 01:02:05.710
final two games. Well, that's what I mean, but

01:02:05.710 --> 01:02:08.409
what I'm saying is the difference is in the last

01:02:08.409 --> 01:02:10.489
maybe four or five, like in the Stephen Cleveland

01:02:10.489 --> 01:02:13.969
era, the Tyler Miller era of backup keepers.

01:02:14.529 --> 01:02:16.849
Brian has said this is their tournament, but

01:02:16.849 --> 01:02:18.530
we've never... Oh, interesting. This is the first

01:02:18.530 --> 01:02:20.190
time I've ever heard him say that personally.

01:02:20.789 --> 01:02:23.369
Okay, yeah. But he has said that in the past,

01:02:23.530 --> 01:02:27.090
but it's never really been put to the test that

01:02:27.090 --> 01:02:30.170
late in the tournament. Yeah. I mean, I think

01:02:30.170 --> 01:02:33.269
at this point, it's Andy Thomas' job to lose

01:02:33.269 --> 01:02:35.530
for next year. I think that's fair. By the way,

01:02:35.550 --> 01:02:37.230
did you see him warming up at the end of the

01:02:37.230 --> 01:02:39.510
game? No, I saw him warming up at the beginning.

01:02:39.630 --> 01:02:42.230
Because he didn't play, he was having to go out

01:02:42.230 --> 01:02:44.309
and run. No, I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that.

01:02:44.889 --> 01:02:47.989
Warming up before we brought on Osase De Rosario

01:02:47.989 --> 01:02:50.590
when it was still a one -goal game. He was warming

01:02:50.590 --> 01:02:54.449
up on the sidelines. I love it. You know that's

01:02:54.449 --> 01:02:56.829
what I want. You know that I'm – I know. Put

01:02:56.829 --> 01:03:00.269
in – I mean, keepers – and this is not a hit

01:03:00.269 --> 01:03:03.090
on Fry. Keepers have – uh, good qualities and

01:03:03.090 --> 01:03:04.510
bad qualities. It's like when you're training

01:03:04.510 --> 01:03:06.869
people on FIFA and you want to train up diving

01:03:06.869 --> 01:03:09.710
versus whatever, you know, I think I, I do think

01:03:09.710 --> 01:03:13.429
Andy is better at, uh, penalties. But the question

01:03:13.429 --> 01:03:15.909
is now, now here's where this is where it gets

01:03:15.909 --> 01:03:21.349
complicated. Yes. In a nutshell, if both goalies

01:03:21.349 --> 01:03:24.769
are coming in cold, doing a game penalties, I'm

01:03:24.769 --> 01:03:26.769
taking Andy Thomas over Stephen Fry every time.

01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.579
But where it gets complicated as well, does a

01:03:30.579 --> 01:03:33.300
keeper who's been on the bench the entire time

01:03:33.300 --> 01:03:36.059
have that same advantage over someone who's been

01:03:36.059 --> 01:03:39.980
in the game the entire time? Look at Danny Leyva

01:03:39.980 --> 01:03:46.340
and Julian Gressel hit post and he came on. His

01:03:46.340 --> 01:03:48.119
first touch of the game was the penalty kick.

01:03:48.300 --> 01:03:53.429
I was going to call him Malfoy. Um, but so, so,

01:03:53.429 --> 01:03:54.989
but then there's the other side. I mean, I keep

01:03:54.989 --> 01:03:56.989
thinking about something Andy Thomas told us

01:03:56.989 --> 01:03:58.829
in the Alliance council meeting last year when

01:03:58.829 --> 01:04:01.750
we met with him, uh, about this whole thing.

01:04:01.869 --> 01:04:04.530
He's like, well, there's the, um, there's the

01:04:04.530 --> 01:04:08.449
counterpoint, which is the coach that does that

01:04:08.449 --> 01:04:11.550
is, you know, definitely putting a big, a big

01:04:11.550 --> 01:04:13.889
target on their back. Because if, if, if you

01:04:13.889 --> 01:04:19.179
go in and you don't perform. There's going to

01:04:19.179 --> 01:04:22.320
be some serious second -guessing because it's

01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:26.579
such an unheard -of technique that I can only

01:04:26.579 --> 01:04:30.420
think of a handful of times. Only a handful of

01:04:30.420 --> 01:04:36.139
times does it happen. But then again, we'll see.

01:04:36.219 --> 01:04:39.500
I'm not opposed to it. I'm definitely not opposed

01:04:39.500 --> 01:04:43.099
to having Thomas warm up and running on the sidelines

01:04:43.099 --> 01:04:49.139
just to keep the possibility open. Yep, definitely.

01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:56.639
So I think we covered the mail bag, which means

01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.659
that you can probably go to work. I can, I can.

01:05:01.380 --> 01:05:03.420
Shout out to Aaron who couldn't be here because

01:05:03.420 --> 01:05:09.739
it is mom's birthday today. Indeed. Happy birthday,

01:05:10.019 --> 01:05:14.699
Aaron's mom. Happy birthday, Aaron's mom. Hey,

01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.489
you know what? Where can they find you? Legal

01:05:18.489 --> 01:05:22.489
-minded punk everywhere, but Twitter. Did we

01:05:22.489 --> 01:05:26.230
make our predictions for game three? Yeah, we

01:05:26.230 --> 01:05:28.269
did. That's it. We did. We picked the Sounders.

01:05:28.269 --> 01:05:30.630
I picked Minnesota and penalties. That's right.

01:05:30.710 --> 01:05:36.389
That's right. Does that change if Andy Thomas

01:05:36.389 --> 01:05:39.610
goes in for Stephen Fry and penalties? Then I'm

01:05:39.610 --> 01:05:46.340
picking Seattle. And just to start it off right,

01:05:46.500 --> 01:05:51.460
just first penalty taker, Andy Thomas. And just

01:05:51.460 --> 01:05:57.059
tongue out. And Andy Thomas pointing to the team,

01:05:57.139 --> 01:06:01.539
I got this. And then looking over at Dane St.

01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:03.719
Clair and going, hey, I'll tell you what, you

01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:05.440
put the ball down. You tell me where you want

01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:16.909
the ball. Bitch. Andy. That was what I'm hearing

01:06:16.909 --> 01:06:19.170
him tell his story about, you know, what was,

01:06:19.170 --> 01:06:23.190
what was his best, his, his moment where he got

01:06:23.190 --> 01:06:25.329
under the skin of another opponent. And he was

01:06:25.329 --> 01:06:27.610
talking about his time at Stanford and, and a

01:06:27.610 --> 01:06:29.610
college game that got a little bit out of hand.

01:06:30.409 --> 01:06:33.530
Yeah. Just what, what a character. Yeah. What

01:06:33.530 --> 01:06:36.090
a character. I mean, I love this team. This team

01:06:36.090 --> 01:06:40.349
has so many wonderful, likable people. Last month

01:06:40.349 --> 01:06:45.849
we had, we had Paul Rothrock. Spend a good couple

01:06:45.849 --> 01:06:47.949
hours with us in the Alliance Council and just

01:06:47.949 --> 01:06:50.530
chat. Couldn't be there because I teach on Tuesday

01:06:50.530 --> 01:06:57.429
nights now. Yeah, and it's just very, very wonderful

01:06:57.429 --> 01:07:03.849
to see the team represented by people who clearly

01:07:03.849 --> 01:07:10.329
love the city, the culture, and to not feel like

01:07:10.329 --> 01:07:14.239
it's just an obligation. Just really, really

01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:15.679
wonderful. That's the other thing about moving

01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.500
a team. I'm a Seattle kid. I'm not a suburban

01:07:18.500 --> 01:07:21.420
kid. I've lived in Seattle all my life but five

01:07:21.420 --> 01:07:22.900
years, and those were the five years I moved

01:07:22.900 --> 01:07:25.659
away from college. I've never lived in the suburbs.

01:07:26.059 --> 01:07:28.739
I think all of our teams should play in the city

01:07:28.739 --> 01:07:32.599
limits. We are the Seattle Sounders. The S -curve

01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.119
sounders. You think Brian Schmetzer's got opinions

01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:39.460
on this one? I think very much so. Nathan Hale

01:07:39.460 --> 01:07:44.420
kid. I mean, this is honestly, I do genuinely

01:07:44.420 --> 01:07:46.960
believe that more than anything, it's a negotiating

01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:50.800
tactic. Yeah, they're potentially exploring it.

01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:53.480
Would they be open to it if it was in Seattle

01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:56.019
in that downtown core? I think that that changes

01:07:56.019 --> 01:07:58.639
the dynamic. And maybe there's an amazing investor

01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:00.239
out there that wants to make something amazing

01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:03.429
happen. And you can't say no. So they would be

01:08:03.429 --> 01:08:07.190
stupid not to look into this. Yeah. And unfortunately,

01:08:07.630 --> 01:08:15.710
venture capital is kind of the way a lot of things

01:08:15.710 --> 01:08:21.050
are going and trending. But as long as Adrian

01:08:21.050 --> 01:08:27.569
maintains his, you know, his. majority stake

01:08:27.569 --> 01:08:30.949
yeah then then i think that that keeps keeps

01:08:30.949 --> 01:08:32.609
things good now the other thing you got to keep

01:08:32.609 --> 01:08:39.909
in mind is that these um percentages these these

01:08:39.909 --> 01:08:42.930
sell -offs would be dipped from the existing

01:08:42.930 --> 01:08:48.670
owners shares this is completely separate from

01:08:48.670 --> 01:08:52.899
the 25 that's owned by jody allen Potentially.

01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:55.760
I mean, it could be part of a deal. It depends

01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:58.939
on what an investor wants to do. Well, no, it

01:08:58.939 --> 01:09:00.760
depends on what Jody Allen wants to do. Well,

01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.399
sure. An investor could make an offer, I'm sure,

01:09:04.460 --> 01:09:06.960
to entice her. 100%. Considering she has just

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sold the Trailblazers. Yes. Yes. Anyways, on

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that note, did you ever get your Twitter account

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back? Nope. It's gone. I'm not expecting it back

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01:09:56.569 --> 01:09:59.489
You can find me at Cascades2C on Instagram. Thank

01:09:59.489 --> 01:10:02.770
you so much for listening. Just so you know,

01:10:02.789 --> 01:10:05.350
in the future, when this season is over, hopefully

01:10:05.350 --> 01:10:10.770
in another month or so, we will have our end

01:10:10.770 --> 01:10:13.250
of season wrap up. We will go over our beginning

01:10:13.250 --> 01:10:15.289
of the season predictions, see how we did. We

01:10:15.289 --> 01:10:19.239
will do the... running score for the prediction

01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:22.079
challenge how we've done we'll give away some

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prizes we'll have a lot of fun so keep listening

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01:10:32.619 --> 01:10:36.800
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01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:40.199
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send each other and and just the the community

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kids and our kids meeting and and just just the

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community it's all about community so thank you

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Alexa, who's the best MLS team of all time? The

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Seattle Sounders are both unequipped, and they're

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