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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say he's cheating. Hello and welcome to

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another episode of Sounders Scuttlebutt. I'm

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your host Cameron Collins. I am here with my

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co -host Nicholas Biella. What's going on everybody?

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Welcome to a special edition of Sounders Scuttlebutt.

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We are live post -game after the Cascadia Derby

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against the Portland Timbers. We've got the Ultras

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here with us. You want to all introduce yourselves?

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Yeah, please do. Yeah, Alex. Dan, and I guess

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that's what it feels like to be Portland at home.

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And Cedar here. Yeah, it feels pretty good. What

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is up, Cedar? Welcome to Seattle. You are here

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in person right now. I'm here. I made the trip

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up from the Bay Area, and I'm glad I came up,

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especially for that game. That was a nice reward.

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Yeah, absolutely. It's good to see you in person

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instead of across a computer screen, sometimes

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with mad sirens going on outside. apartment in

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san francisco yeah that's san francisco for you

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yeah it's great to meet all you guys in person

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hang out you know chant and sing and ecs together

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and yeah we had a blast yeah it's been good and

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actually i think about it all three of you traveled

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to be here which is probably why we always record

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online where i mean san francisco obviously the

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furthest but yakima and olympia right so oh tacoma

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i thought you why did i think you were olympia

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i don't know it's it's tacoma still uh you know

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far Especially with traffic. I think Dan moved

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to Olympia at this point. Yeah. Maybe it's because

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you work adjacent to things that happen at Olympia.

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Yeah, I work in Olympia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

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we're short on mics here, so make sure you grab

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mics, pass them back and forth. And I'm going

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to hand it off to Nicholas to talk about. Do

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we have any scuttlebutt beyond them being here?

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I mean, yeah, we have a lot of scuttlebutt going

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on, including we have some special guests here

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today that since this is an audio only format

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today, we are being recorded right now as we

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as we speak. Copa 90 has been here doing some

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special stuff today. So welcome to our Copa 90

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guests. Just kind of highlighting Seattle and

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as we get ready for the World Cup. This week

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has been big with the World Cup. Did anyone get

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into the Visa lottery? Anyone win? Anyone? Does

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anyone know someone who's won? I signed up, but

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I haven't even seen an email if I won or not.

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I do not know anyone that's been chosen. Anyone

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else in the room? Anyone? Oh, we got one! The

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one, the one. Okay, well, congratulations there.

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All right. There will be plenty of chances. We'll

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talk plenty about that going forward. Yeah, I

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mean, I was sad. I didn't get chosen for that.

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I didn't get chosen for ALCS tickets, if the

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Mariners make it. But after tonight's loss, who

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knows? But we do have that chance, the right

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to buy for one match in Seattle because of the

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Club World Cup ticket. participation we did and

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so hopefully still we can get that uh usa match

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although five hundred dollars a ticket might

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be a little cost prohibitive if we're stuck with

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the top two tiers well yeah that's that's category

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three and four or i'm sorry one and two uh i

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think 180 for for basically the upper deck uh

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the category four is an absolute joke where it's

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literally maybe 500 seats the the top you know

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half of one section it's it's a joke but I digress.

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Some other scuttlebutts have been going on. Obed

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Vargas played another full 90 today for the U

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-20s World Cup for Mexico. Mexico beat Morocco

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1 -0. So they advanced to the knockout ground.

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I think they're playing Chile. I think that's

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who they're playing, but I'm not entirely sure

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on that. And then Reed Baker Whiting has gotten

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some time, some significant minutes with USA.

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So hopefully both of them can continue to shine

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and move on to the knockout rounds and, you know,

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put that bid up a little higher. What do you

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guys think? Have you been watching any of those

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games? Yeah. $10 million for Vargas now? Is that

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where we're at? I heard it should be $25 at this

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point. I'd take it. We could sign two more Pedro

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de la Vegas with that money. If we had two more

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Pedro de la Vegas, we may never lose a game again.

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If the new Pedro's are allowed to be on the field

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and Coach Schmetzer decides to play them. Well,

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maybe if we have three of them, we can get 90

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minutes out of all three. Yeah. Why don't we

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jump straight into the game here? Because I know

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our special guests have to depart eventually.

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So we should talk some Derby. This is the first

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time that Seattle's beat Portland at home since...

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2017. Since 2017. Dan, I don't think you even

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lived in the state then, did you? No. No, I think

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I was in Wichita Falls or some god -awful place

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like that in 2017. Yeah, that's wild. And, oh,

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Cedar, you had probably already moved by then,

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but barely. Yeah, I've been in the Bay Area for

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over a decade now. So, yeah, no, it's been a

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long, long time. I'm glad I got to be here in

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person for this win. I mean, my daughter wasn't

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even born at that point. And although today was

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today was fun. Today was her first. She's five

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years old, turned six next month. And today was

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her first F -bomb and her first middle finger.

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Neither of them were prompted by me. She just

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kind of went with the flow because she is very

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much. She belongs in the supporters section.

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She's very much in ECS, so I'm pretty proud of

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her. Cameron, you took a great photo. Thank you.

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I can't wait to share that with my family. So

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are we going to get a Ref You Suck chant from

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her next week? I think she already knows that.

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Yeah, she probably knows that. Pretty sure I

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started this Ref You Suck chant, just for the

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record. So why don't we talk about this match?

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Let's get right into it because, like we said,

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the Sounders had not won at home versus Portland

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since 2017, which did that include 2018 playoff

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loss at home, right? Technically, that was a

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draw because it did go to extra time and then

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penalties, but that was a draw. Right, that's

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right. That was a draw in the final kick of...

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Ozzy's Sounders career, right? He missed a penalty,

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sadly. He and Will Bruin, I think, missed the

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two in that. Man, two Sounder greats who had

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a rough ending. Will may have been around another

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year after that. But yeah, I mean, this was huge.

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I actually had watched a video I was in where

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I had said Caleb Porter has the most punchable

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face in the history of the MLS after that match.

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But the good news is he's no longer an MLS, so

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scuttlebutt there. So you don't have to worry

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about that anymore. That's true. New England

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has fired him. Somehow he's no longer able to

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fail up like he has his entire career, but you

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expect that from someone who coached Portland.

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This is a great time to be a Seattle fan. We've

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been in kind of free fall after the... after

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the League's Cup, correct? We were awesome after

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the Club World Cup. This is our first win after

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four straight without a win. What do you think

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was the difference in this match, Alex, versus

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other matches that the Sounders have been playing

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lately? Was there a starter who was on the field

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who I told everyone was going to score a goal

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today that was different than all the other matches

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where we haven't played well? All you've got

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to say is Pedro. That's right. The originator

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of the Free Pedro movement right here, Alex Diaz.

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Alex Diaz played for the Mariners, so I get to

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mispronounce your last name like his name, Alex

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Diaz. No, because we're winners over here. Yeah,

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but we will say, like I told you, I told Pedro

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all about it at the Rave Gala, and so he knows

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all about the Free Pedro movement, and either

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him or his social media team responds on Instagram

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whenever we post Free Pedro. And once I saw Pedro,

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Pedro starting, I was like, okay, we're going

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to win 3 -1. We won 1 -0, but we'll take a win.

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And I picked Pedro to score. Yeah. I'm like,

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enough said. I think I said 2 -1 with Pedro scoring.

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Pedro might drop. Yep. I mean, that's the difference

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in this game. Cedar, what else did you see besides

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Pedro? I mean, we had Rothrock and Ferreira starting

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up top. And Rusnak dropped back to that number

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six position. And that was a place we used to

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see him with. Russ snack with that back there

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with I think Obed at times and he was able to

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play that a little differently since He had a

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veteran next to him in Christian yeah, absolutely

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and from what I saw you know with flags in my

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face and you know getting to getting to see glimpses

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and You know focusing on the words of all the

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chants and everything mess this up It just felt

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like What we saw on the field was the same kind

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of energy and intensity and every single player

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getting up for this match like they did for the

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League's Cup final. And that kind of energy felt

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like it had been missing from the past few games.

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And the results were... Kind of mirroring that.

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So that was really nice to see. Before I give

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the mic over here to Mr. I look at the bright

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side of everything and I have nothing but positive

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things to say about the Sounders and that everything

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is fine. Do you think that the doom and gloom

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is over because we're actually playing Pedro?

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Or do you think we have more doom and gloom to

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come? I mean, I don't know. I think we have some

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interesting challenges because we've got... Rusnack

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is going to be out. We'll probably talk about

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the red card later, but he's going to be out.

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We've got Obed at the U -20 World Cup, right?

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Keep going. That's two of our midfielders. Keep

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going. Snyder Brunel, right? He got called up.

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Who else we got, right? Christian Roldan. Yeah,

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Christian Roldan. That's poor. He's at USA. Oh,

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yeah, that's right. Jeez, it just keeps going

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and going. So who do we have left? So we got

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Jalpaulo. Who do we have left? And we've got...

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Danny Leyva. Yeah. That is our midfield for the

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RSL game. Well, you know, Jackson Reagan, he

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grew up playing midfielder, so why don't we move

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him up a line, you know? I think it's more likely

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that we'll probably see Jesus drop down. It'll

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depend on Kihei, because remember, Kihei left

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at halftime with an injured tight calf, so if

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we're down another defender with Yamar still

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out, oh my goodness. So that means you put Snyder...

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No, I'm sorry. John Bell will go back over, so

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I'll be there. Can Rothrock play in the midfield?

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So we're going to take a quick break so that

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we can de -mic on the video side, and then we'll

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just hop back in. Hey, everybody. This is one

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of your hosts, Cameron Collins. Now, I know we

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said this time's time for a break. But really,

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it's a time for me to talk to you about our corporate

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overlords. And our corporate overlords are us.

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programming. And we're back. Again, big thanks

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to Copa90 for hopping in and doing some really

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cool stuff. Can't wait to see final product there.

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What are we all drinking now that we're kind

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of, you know, getting back into this? So why

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don't we go around the room? I'm starting with

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you, Cedar. Moonshine. Wow, that's some strong

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stuff. For celebratory occasions. No, I'm drinking

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water. I was going to say gasoline because we're

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building a bonfire, but, yeah, water because

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our waiter is nowhere to be found. Well, we did

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shut the door. So, yeah, no, the service has

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been outstanding here. So the door is just shut.

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I am drinking the tears of Portland's fans. And

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I'm drinking a cider, which is laced with the

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tears of Portland's fans and their coach. Was

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it Phil Neville? Which Neville is their coach?

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Phil Neville. Phil Neville, who was crying as

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he came off the field and got into it. I thought

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it was with the little kid, but apparently the

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guy behind the little kid is who he was fighting

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with. But what? You know, this always has the

00:15:10.019 --> 00:15:13.320
explicit tag. What a fucking dick. What are you

00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:15.620
doing going out and arguing and getting the face

00:15:15.620 --> 00:15:17.399
of fans while you're walking off the field and

00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.379
being like, meh, meh, meh, meh? Crash outfield.

00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:23.840
I mean, you know, could be worse. Could have

00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.789
threw a ball at him. I mean, he could have spit

00:15:26.789 --> 00:15:29.250
at him. That's also true. That's also true. I

00:15:29.250 --> 00:15:31.710
mean, I remember last year he celebrated a day

00:15:31.710 --> 00:15:33.669
in time like it was the World Cup final. So,

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I mean, that just shows you how much ahead Seattle

00:15:36.090 --> 00:15:38.889
is to Portland. When you're Portland, what do

00:15:38.889 --> 00:15:42.830
you get to celebrate? The COVID tournament. Yeah.

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You know, I just don't trust a soccer coach who's

00:15:47.009 --> 00:15:50.750
Phil Neville's age wearing an oversized hoodie.

00:15:51.289 --> 00:15:53.970
You know, our coach, he dresses for the occasion.

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A lovely suit with a sweater underneath. I will

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not have this Bill Belichick slander. I mean,

00:16:01.450 --> 00:16:03.690
to be fair, I guarantee you if Dan or I were

00:16:03.690 --> 00:16:05.549
a coach, we would be wearing an oversized hoodie.

00:16:05.669 --> 00:16:09.029
We would not be wearing a suit. Maybe Phil Neville

00:16:09.029 --> 00:16:12.509
has a 20 -year -old girlfriend who's doing the

00:16:12.509 --> 00:16:16.509
behind -the -scenes stuff, maybe. We're just

00:16:16.509 --> 00:16:21.909
going to drop that. I am watching that with great...

00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:26.990
just as an outsider that does not care. You wish

00:16:26.990 --> 00:16:31.450
that was you, huh? No. He does not, but you're

00:16:31.450 --> 00:16:35.970
also a Bills fan, so you relish in the failure

00:16:35.970 --> 00:16:38.529
of anything related to the Patriots, I imagine,

00:16:38.629 --> 00:16:41.570
much like we do in Seattle. Yeah, pretty much.

00:16:41.669 --> 00:16:45.110
Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, you know, Kronk is

00:16:45.110 --> 00:16:48.250
cool. I'll give Kronk a pass, but for the most

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part. And I also like that Aaron Hernandez guy.

00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:55.799
He was... Oh, whoa. Pause. Wait, wait, wait,

00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.299
wait. Did I miss something? Is he not cool? Is

00:16:59.299 --> 00:17:01.860
he not cool? He's the Jeffrey Epstein of the

00:17:01.860 --> 00:17:07.740
NFL. You mean he's well hung? That's funny because

00:17:07.740 --> 00:17:11.940
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. But, I mean,

00:17:11.940 --> 00:17:13.759
he may not have done it, but he was still hung.

00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:18.640
So, yeah. But, yeah, I mean... We have some scuttlebutt

00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.099
real quick that we should get to before we get

00:17:20.099 --> 00:17:21.579
back. Now that we've all talked about our drinks,

00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:23.579
like we'd like to talk about before we get back

00:17:23.579 --> 00:17:25.680
into the game. And I just wanted to say what

00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.000
a great Chelsea match today against Liverpool.

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Two to one victory, late win in a match where

00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:32.940
it felt like Chelsea should have won anyways.

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And it felt like this is going to be the same

00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:36.759
old Chelsea. They're going to blow this. And

00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.000
then it was Esteval scored 89th minute or something

00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.920
like that. Late goal put Chelsea ahead two to

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one. So that was super fun. I feel like this

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is going to be just kind of a little bit of a

00:17:49.299 --> 00:17:51.019
disjointed episode. We're just going to kind

00:17:51.019 --> 00:17:53.619
of keep getting little freeze cuts. It'll be

00:17:53.619 --> 00:17:55.980
like memento, you know, all backwards and that.

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And so, yeah, let's talk about the match a little

00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:06.500
bit. Pedro scores 16 minutes into the game, 16

00:18:06.500 --> 00:18:10.640
minutes in. Just looked really, you know, looked

00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:14.420
really good there. What did you guys see? Dan,

00:18:14.619 --> 00:18:18.210
what were your thoughts? So once I got out of

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the game, I watched the highlights because it

00:18:20.589 --> 00:18:23.509
was at the goal away from me. And dear Lord,

00:18:23.690 --> 00:18:26.410
that was a great shot. Just the whole buildup

00:18:26.410 --> 00:18:29.990
to the play with we're pouring more Portland

00:18:29.990 --> 00:18:37.269
tears into our cups. Give us just a sec. Hope

00:18:37.269 --> 00:18:40.430
that sound comes through. That is the live sound

00:18:40.430 --> 00:18:43.230
of Portland tears. It does. The incredible taste

00:18:43.230 --> 00:18:48.569
of unfathomable sadness. You just love it. I

00:18:48.569 --> 00:18:52.329
saw so many Portland fans going to the game,

00:18:52.349 --> 00:18:53.990
and they were super nice. I mean, all of them

00:18:53.990 --> 00:18:58.029
was really nice. Before the game, after the game,

00:18:58.069 --> 00:18:59.670
I couldn't get a single one to talk to me, so

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I don't know what the deal is. It's okay. They

00:19:02.230 --> 00:19:08.589
don't want pity. No pity. Fuck the Timbers. My

00:19:08.589 --> 00:19:12.269
favorite thing is they call themselves Soccer

00:19:12.269 --> 00:19:16.609
City USA, right? Yeah, so on their stadium it

00:19:16.609 --> 00:19:25.009
has the initials SCUSA. Excuse me. Good times,

00:19:25.190 --> 00:19:27.970
good times. You know, so after we scored that

00:19:27.970 --> 00:19:32.500
first goal, it felt like... Felt like we were

00:19:32.500 --> 00:19:36.099
in control for most of the game. I mean, the

00:19:36.099 --> 00:19:39.299
only thing for me, it just felt like Portland

00:19:39.299 --> 00:19:43.339
had no possession with purpose. Their chances

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where they looked even potentially dangerous

00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.960
seemed to be coming off of quick transition moments.

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But for the most part, I thought that they were

00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:55.710
really toothless. And then the times that they

00:19:55.710 --> 00:19:57.750
did have possession, not possession with purpose,

00:19:57.829 --> 00:20:00.150
but the times that they did have shots on goal,

00:20:00.690 --> 00:20:02.990
Fry stood on his head and did magic, and he looks

00:20:02.990 --> 00:20:06.190
like he is fully back. In fact, I think I personally

00:20:06.190 --> 00:20:07.809
thought he was the player of the game because

00:20:07.809 --> 00:20:10.930
it could have been 2 -1 Portland if it hadn't

00:20:10.930 --> 00:20:14.549
been for Fry just being the GOAT. Yeah, I think

00:20:14.549 --> 00:20:17.869
the expected goals were not very favorable with

00:20:17.869 --> 00:20:20.230
Portland. You know, foot mob only has them as

00:20:20.230 --> 00:20:25.759
a .57. Frye did make that really great save with

00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:28.440
his strong hand there. I mean, maybe the shot

00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:32.660
was from outside the box, but that was not easy.

00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:35.299
Matter of fact, I don't think that shot was from

00:20:35.299 --> 00:20:37.279
outside the box. It was just a weird... It was

00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:39.640
just kind of from a weird angle, but it was going

00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:43.259
in. Oh, 100%. It was going in, and Frye was completely

00:20:43.259 --> 00:20:45.660
horizontal when he saved it. Yeah, and that's

00:20:45.660 --> 00:20:49.740
where sometimes the expected goals don't always

00:20:49.740 --> 00:20:53.829
match up with the eye test. Because that in itself

00:20:53.829 --> 00:20:58.970
should have been, you know, a .57 at least from

00:20:58.970 --> 00:21:04.730
what I saw. Just great save from Fry there. Cedar,

00:21:04.769 --> 00:21:09.190
was this your first time in ECS? No, it was my

00:21:09.190 --> 00:21:12.730
second time. I had come up here a couple of years

00:21:12.730 --> 00:21:16.509
ago for a regular season. Oh, the Minnesota game,

00:21:16.569 --> 00:21:20.359
right? Yes, Minnesota. Rusnak had the winner

00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:24.200
in that one. This was 2023, April of 2023, I

00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:29.079
want to say. Yeah, that's the other time I've

00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:32.240
been at UCS. It's always fun. You can probably

00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.460
hear my voice is a little dead right now because

00:21:36.460 --> 00:21:40.740
I was singing my ass off, and it was worth it.

00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:43.240
Yeah. It was fun. It was super fun. And my voice

00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:46.039
goes up an octave. Yeah. Yeah. As I hit puberty.

00:21:46.619 --> 00:21:48.980
But, no, that's one of the things about ECS is

00:21:48.980 --> 00:21:51.579
you get that energy, but sometimes you need to

00:21:51.579 --> 00:21:54.259
re -watch the game to really kind of see what

00:21:54.259 --> 00:21:57.759
happened. Definitely, definitely. But, you know,

00:21:57.859 --> 00:22:01.940
especially for a match like that against the

00:22:01.940 --> 00:22:05.119
Timbers, you've got to bring the energy, and

00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.920
it feels like we did. So, yeah, I'll be happy

00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.460
to watch the replay. Admittedly, the ECS crowd

00:22:12.460 --> 00:22:16.200
was great today. Like, I did not hear. Portland

00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:20.500
do their alphabet chant all night? I will say

00:22:20.500 --> 00:22:24.779
that sitting on the 45 -yard line, they were

00:22:24.779 --> 00:22:26.720
really loud and they were going strong. I could

00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:28.799
hear Portland really well. So credit to their

00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.160
fans for bringing it, but didn't help their team

00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:33.700
win. I imagine it's hard to root for that team

00:22:33.700 --> 00:22:37.599
when Merritt Paulson is your owner. We are so

00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.779
lucky. I know we have our quibbles with our management

00:22:41.779 --> 00:22:46.819
sometimes. At least it's not like what Portland

00:22:46.819 --> 00:22:51.039
has to deal with because, oh, my goodness. Just

00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:54.880
shooting some accusatory glances across the room

00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:58.500
right here while you say that, you know. But,

00:22:58.579 --> 00:23:02.539
yeah, it would suck to be in their situation

00:23:02.539 --> 00:23:05.799
where, you know, you love a team, you care deeply,

00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:11.480
and they just fail you. Oh, wait, we're Mariners

00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:16.069
fans. We know that feeling. I don't think we're

00:23:16.069 --> 00:23:19.970
all Mariners fans. We're all about the Saunders

00:23:19.970 --> 00:23:23.650
here. Wow, that's getting awkward. I will say,

00:23:23.789 --> 00:23:28.130
seeing some of these Timbers fans, a lot of them

00:23:28.130 --> 00:23:31.470
are also Mariners fans because that's the closest

00:23:31.470 --> 00:23:35.970
MLB team. And it just made me feel weird. I felt

00:23:35.970 --> 00:23:41.039
like, how do I put... Yeah, I mean, we were literally

00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:43.960
at a bar where there was Sounders and Timbers

00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.640
fans watching the Mariners together, rooting

00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:51.279
for the Mariners. I don't know how I can put...

00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:54.200
How do I feel about a person like that? Because,

00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:58.259
I mean, to be a Mariners fan, that's like trauma

00:23:58.259 --> 00:24:00.619
bonding right there with other Mariners fans,

00:24:00.779 --> 00:24:05.099
100%. And then it's also the worst person you

00:24:05.099 --> 00:24:08.700
could possibly think of. So it's like, it's really,

00:24:08.819 --> 00:24:11.779
really strange. I mean, my Timbers fans' friends

00:24:11.779 --> 00:24:14.440
aren't listening, so I'll agree with you. If

00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:18.599
you are listening, I love you. No, you don't.

00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.299
He's lying. Well, it's kind of like how the people

00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:25.859
in Seattle that support the Trailblazers. Like

00:24:25.859 --> 00:24:28.769
me. I root for the Trailblazers because there

00:24:28.769 --> 00:24:31.369
was never a real rivalry with the Trailblazers

00:24:31.369 --> 00:24:34.230
and the Sonics. They were never both good at

00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:40.069
the same time. And also, black and red is pretty

00:24:40.069 --> 00:24:42.329
dope colors. I mean, yeah, I'll give you that.

00:24:42.369 --> 00:24:44.369
The colors are pretty dope. The team, not so

00:24:44.369 --> 00:24:49.230
much. I mean, every team in the 90s changed their

00:24:49.230 --> 00:24:53.029
color scheme to black and red. Yeah, it's not

00:24:53.029 --> 00:24:55.470
that good of a color scheme. Says the guy who

00:24:55.470 --> 00:24:58.470
took me to see LeBron James play at Portland.

00:24:59.829 --> 00:25:02.970
So he clearly likes Portland to a degree because

00:25:02.970 --> 00:25:06.089
we saw LeBron, the GOAT. Did he even play like

00:25:06.089 --> 00:25:07.750
20 minutes? Yeah, he played the whole game. This

00:25:07.750 --> 00:25:11.170
was before. Was this at, oh, at Cleveland. Yeah.

00:25:11.210 --> 00:25:14.309
It's Cleveland. Yeah, so he played. He had an

00:25:14.309 --> 00:25:17.750
incredible dunk over Nurkic. Yeah, I mean, that

00:25:17.750 --> 00:25:20.150
game was cool because that was kind of my first

00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:27.230
exposure to Dame. dame lillard as well uh funny

00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:30.450
enough uh actually scuttlebutt listener eric

00:25:30.450 --> 00:25:32.670
was one of the one of the four people in that

00:25:32.670 --> 00:25:35.730
car uh so it was me cameron eric and and one

00:25:35.730 --> 00:25:39.750
other um and and that was just a that was just

00:25:39.750 --> 00:25:43.910
a really fun day we uh i believe i pissed on

00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:47.450
providence park Didn't I? Because I really had

00:25:47.450 --> 00:25:51.130
to pee afterwards. I mean, wait. I might have

00:25:51.130 --> 00:25:52.990
split by that point since I was living part -time

00:25:52.990 --> 00:25:56.710
in Portland. Allegedly. Allegedly. I believe

00:25:56.710 --> 00:26:00.589
some liquid might have left my body. They weren't

00:26:00.589 --> 00:26:02.829
tears. You might be really part of Portland at

00:26:02.829 --> 00:26:07.549
that point. Well, I was relieved to do so. Is

00:26:07.549 --> 00:26:09.329
that like pissing on the Alamo? Is that kind

00:26:09.329 --> 00:26:12.589
of like the same thing? Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah.

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:16.900
You know, when you got a long drive home, you

00:26:16.900 --> 00:26:19.799
got to find a spot to go and there just wasn't

00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:21.880
anywhere except for... Well, I mean, you're like

00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.460
driving, you're like, look, there's a huge toilet

00:26:23.460 --> 00:26:25.980
right there. Yeah, it was a public urinal. I

00:26:25.980 --> 00:26:27.859
mean, that's the amazing thing because the McDonald's

00:26:27.859 --> 00:26:30.079
across the street is like the grossest McDonald's.

00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:32.619
One time I was in there at like six o 'clock

00:26:32.619 --> 00:26:34.480
in the morning and this woman said she was going

00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:38.099
to smash her gonorrhea fingers into the ketchup

00:26:38.099 --> 00:26:42.980
if they didn't fix her order. And yet... That's

00:26:42.980 --> 00:26:47.259
a cleaner place to be than the stadium. What's

00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:50.740
crazy is that I remember going to Dave Buster's

00:26:50.740 --> 00:26:55.119
and I went like the full yard outside. And then

00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.980
the Uber guy gave me like a soda. He's like,

00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:00.200
here you go. You need this more than I do. I

00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:04.170
want you all to just picture someone. Telling

00:27:04.170 --> 00:27:06.730
you they're going to smash their gonorrhea fingers.

00:27:07.109 --> 00:27:09.190
I don't want to picture that. Picture it. No.

00:27:09.230 --> 00:27:11.569
Picture what gonorrhea fingers look like. No.

00:27:11.630 --> 00:27:15.289
And stop. Just stop right there. Just stop. Take

00:27:15.289 --> 00:27:17.730
his mic away. He's done for the day. You're done.

00:27:17.950 --> 00:27:22.970
Yeah. There's a reason why during the watch parties

00:27:22.970 --> 00:27:25.329
for the Sounders, we often had to cut off Nicholas's

00:27:25.329 --> 00:27:28.339
mic. All before the match started, right? No,

00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.039
all the time. At least once a game, he would

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.160
say something inappropriate. And, you know, we

00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.519
had visitors calling in or watching from like

00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:37.920
Uruguay. I think we had someone from China one

00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.559
time. And Seattle's best and brightest were out

00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.319
here saying stuff. They were getting their mics

00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.299
turned off. Well, this is why he started. He

00:27:46.299 --> 00:27:48.259
joined his own podcast. So he can say whatever

00:27:48.259 --> 00:27:50.119
he wants. He can say whatever he wants as long

00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:51.960
as I don't have the controls like I do today.

00:27:53.259 --> 00:27:55.559
Yeah, there's the there's very much. So anytime

00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.680
you hear anyone go and muted, that was that was

00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.220
a fairly regular and muted. But, you know, here's

00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:06.180
the thing, though. It was never graphic. It was

00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:10.839
just always I would always just kind of see how

00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.559
close to that edge I can get. I don't know, gonorrhea

00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.420
finger seems pretty graphic. Now, I would imagine

00:28:18.420 --> 00:28:20.599
that it would look like a green circle with a

00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.559
white axe in the middle, though. Now, we're having

00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:28.519
fun here, and we're talking about everything

00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:32.000
that we like to say about Portland, but I will

00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.279
say, can you take salt and straw back? Because

00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:37.279
every single neighborhood has three salt and

00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.180
straws, like they're fucking Starbucks now, and

00:28:39.180 --> 00:28:43.440
I like salt and straw, but I've had enough. Do

00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:50.180
not besmirch the best ice cream flavor in existence,

00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:54.319
which is their pot of gold, where they take Lucky

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:59.740
Charms cereal and they steep it in their ice

00:28:59.740 --> 00:29:02.680
cream base. So the ice cream base is like the

00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.009
cereal milk. And then they put the... marshmallows

00:29:07.009 --> 00:29:09.670
in the ice cream when the ice cream is there.

00:29:09.690 --> 00:29:12.349
It is great, but it's only a limited time thing,

00:29:12.549 --> 00:29:17.450
so I will shamelessly plug that one. That sounds

00:29:17.450 --> 00:29:20.710
good. It does sound pretty good. Let's get back

00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:22.329
to the match, though, because it is after midnight,

00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:25.109
and I'm sure there's not just people in this

00:29:25.109 --> 00:29:27.450
room, but servers and other people who want to

00:29:27.450 --> 00:29:30.369
sleep eventually. We're at a 24 -hour restaurant,

00:29:30.529 --> 00:29:33.589
so that's not going to happen, but... Be careful

00:29:33.589 --> 00:29:35.250
because if we feed them, they're going to turn

00:29:35.250 --> 00:29:38.930
into gremlins. You know what is not a limited

00:29:38.930 --> 00:29:41.910
time? Cookies and cream ice cream. I'll be a

00:29:41.910 --> 00:29:45.309
gremlin for that. There we go. Gotcha. Gotcha.

00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.460
So I'd say that takes us to halftime, what we

00:29:49.460 --> 00:29:50.819
were talking about. And then it comes up the

00:29:50.819 --> 00:29:53.460
second half. The Sounders were struggling just

00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:57.099
a little bit. It seemed like although Portland

00:29:57.099 --> 00:30:01.119
wasn't putting together great possession, they

00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:04.140
kept having breakaways that would allow them

00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:07.119
not one -on -ones with Fry, but at least one

00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:11.420
-on -one with a defender. who beasted up at the

00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:13.440
beginning of that game and just looked awesome,

00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.940
continued to do so in the second half when he

00:30:15.940 --> 00:30:19.000
was, you know, breaking down those, those, those

00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.940
runs and staying on the people. And we saw Christian

00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:25.460
do some great things because early on he gave

00:30:25.460 --> 00:30:27.799
the ball away in dangerous spots, I think three

00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.920
different times. And then he made someone right

00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.319
after that and it was incredible, but there,

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.440
there was a little rough out there to start the

00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.380
second half. Were you afraid Cedar that we were

00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:37.740
not going to be able to hang on at that point?

00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.140
At the start of the second half? Yeah, just throughout

00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:45.319
the first 15 minutes or so. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't

00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.619
afraid. I was still pretty confident. But you

00:30:47.619 --> 00:30:51.619
could definitely see Portland get their moments.

00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:54.799
And like you were saying, all the transition

00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:59.359
moments that they had did seem like halfway dangerous

00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.779
to kind of dangerous. And I wonder if that's...

00:31:04.029 --> 00:31:07.849
maybe the byproduct of not having a guy like

00:31:07.849 --> 00:31:11.769
Obed out there who is really, really good of

00:31:11.769 --> 00:31:15.930
just making himself, like, glue to the opposition

00:31:15.930 --> 00:31:19.609
in the midfield. And, you know, Resnick hasn't

00:31:19.609 --> 00:31:23.049
played. I mean, he was running, like, wild. Oh,

00:31:23.049 --> 00:31:25.190
totally, totally. He was a wild man. No, totally,

00:31:25.369 --> 00:31:27.450
totally. This is not to besmirch his performance,

00:31:27.670 --> 00:31:29.849
right? But he's, you know, he was being asked

00:31:29.849 --> 00:31:32.829
to do something that he hasn't done in a few

00:31:32.829 --> 00:31:36.119
years. There's still got to be a little bit of

00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:42.880
a learning curve there. Our waiter at this place,

00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.900
he has the nicest, deepest, smoothest voice,

00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:51.980
Joe. How could you not? His voice is incredible.

00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.079
I kind of wanted to get him back on. Can we get

00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.720
a ghost sounder from this guy? If we haven't

00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:59.539
mentioned, shout out 13 Coins. I think we've

00:31:59.539 --> 00:32:01.569
said... We're at a restaurant, but we haven't

00:32:01.569 --> 00:32:03.289
said where we are. We're at 13 Coins. Shout out

00:32:03.289 --> 00:32:05.569
13 Coins. They've always been good to me and

00:32:05.569 --> 00:32:07.410
to the Seattle Superhawks, who I work for. So

00:32:07.410 --> 00:32:10.109
they were super awesome to give us some space

00:32:10.109 --> 00:32:12.109
tonight to be able to record this podcast and

00:32:12.109 --> 00:32:16.069
coming down here and supporting a local restaurant.

00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:19.569
And they're open late night, which is not something

00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:22.049
you find in Seattle elsewhere. So definitely

00:32:22.049 --> 00:32:25.869
support them here. And their waiters have some

00:32:25.869 --> 00:32:28.349
of the deepest, smoothest voices we've ever heard.

00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.519
Get weak in the knees every time he walks in

00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.140
the room. I mean, we are going 13 coins after

00:32:34.140 --> 00:32:36.519
dark. I mean, I'll try to get him back on the

00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:40.900
mic when he has to come close out my tab. Daddy

00:32:40.900 --> 00:32:48.720
Dan paid for all of us. Oh, I'm sorry. That didn't

00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.779
get picked up by the microphone. So I heard you

00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:53.960
say thank you so much for taking care of us.

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.480
Yeah, it's all good as long as everybody Venmo's

00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:01.700
me before my wife sees the transaction. Which

00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:08.619
one? Which wife? No, he's back. And here's our

00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:12.119
guest of honor. Joe, can we get a Go Sounders

00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:17.500
from you? Go Sounders. There we go. Yes. Yeah,

00:33:17.500 --> 00:33:21.440
the champion. When you come to 13 Coins, ask

00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:26.309
for Joe. That's right. So, yeah, Cedar, we were

00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:31.490
second half. A little bit of struggle there,

00:33:31.650 --> 00:33:34.529
but we held it together. We held it together.

00:33:34.609 --> 00:33:37.670
I mean, these guys put in a really great performance.

00:33:37.910 --> 00:33:41.109
I mean, yeah, shit's going to happen. We're going

00:33:41.109 --> 00:33:44.029
to give away some possession here and there.

00:33:44.329 --> 00:33:49.630
But, I mean, when I was really, you know, clenching

00:33:49.630 --> 00:33:55.420
was near the end. It was getting a little touch

00:33:55.420 --> 00:34:00.400
and go. But yeah, I mean, the ref certainly wasn't

00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.880
helping us out with that. I'm trying really hard

00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.539
not to hand Nicholas the mic because we're going

00:34:04.539 --> 00:34:12.039
to have to mute him. Oh, there's a scream upstairs.

00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:16.480
Oh, my goodness. Well, lock the door. We're going

00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.719
to go into we should go into like lockdown mode.

00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.440
Well, when you're a teacher in school. To quote

00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.460
Inglourious Basterds, I fight in no goddamn basement,

00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.719
so we better get the hell out of here. This is

00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:33.119
such a fun episode. You know what? As much as

00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.599
we're just kind of talking about the game because

00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.420
we keep having all these amazing interruptions,

00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:40.420
let's just say that we are happy to be here with

00:34:40.420 --> 00:34:42.460
all of you listeners and celebrate with one another

00:34:42.460 --> 00:34:47.679
a fantastic one -nothing win. It just feels so

00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:49.760
special to finally have won at home for the first

00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.199
time in quite some time, it feels like. When

00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.320
was their last win at home? Was it during the

00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.159
final against Miami? I think that's right. So

00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.460
it feels like a long time ago, considering where

00:35:02.460 --> 00:35:10.670
we've been. So let's get to the red card. Real

00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:12.570
fast, before we get to the red card, I just wanted

00:35:12.570 --> 00:35:14.650
to say that my biggest takeaway from the game

00:35:14.650 --> 00:35:18.769
was the fact that we were able to withstand a

00:35:18.769 --> 00:35:20.750
lot of pressure there at the end, a lot of those

00:35:20.750 --> 00:35:23.090
breaks, and there was a feeling throughout the

00:35:23.090 --> 00:35:24.909
entire crowd, at least the people sitting around

00:35:24.909 --> 00:35:26.429
me, like, okay, one of these breaks is going

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:28.190
to turn into a goal, and we're going to go down,

00:35:28.329 --> 00:35:31.489
and they're going to equalize, and they didn't,

00:35:31.489 --> 00:35:32.929
and that gives me a little bit of hope for the

00:35:32.929 --> 00:35:34.110
playoffs, too, because we're going to have to

00:35:34.110 --> 00:35:36.610
play some tough games in the playoffs, and it

00:35:36.610 --> 00:35:38.849
was good to see us getting back to our ways from

00:35:38.849 --> 00:35:40.429
last year of just being able to hold on to that

00:35:40.429 --> 00:35:43.710
that lead real quick then the nice thing I will

00:35:43.710 --> 00:35:46.969
say too is we would take their breaks and then

00:35:46.969 --> 00:35:49.969
counter and then almost created goals at the

00:35:49.969 --> 00:35:53.150
end several times and so it was it was uh amazing

00:35:53.150 --> 00:35:54.909
to see the Sounders have the ability to do that

00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:57.090
because we see them move the ball but to turn

00:35:57.090 --> 00:35:58.730
around that quickly and then turn it into almost

00:35:58.730 --> 00:36:02.789
scoring goals was fantastic my biggest takeaway

00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:05.710
is that if this doesn't show to you that Pedro

00:36:05.710 --> 00:36:08.630
is our most influential DP then I don't know

00:36:08.630 --> 00:36:11.570
what is. Like, the difference maker today was

00:36:11.570 --> 00:36:15.050
Pedro. We had Jordan and Rusnak playing multiple

00:36:15.050 --> 00:36:17.489
games in the past, and we didn't get the result.

00:36:17.590 --> 00:36:21.329
Pedro starts today, and we get the three points.

00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:23.989
He was our difference maker today, even though

00:36:23.989 --> 00:36:28.090
he didn't go the full 90. I mean, yeah, he offensively,

00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:32.429
definitely. Christian Roldan was just everywhere.

00:36:32.730 --> 00:36:37.730
He was amazing. Just up and down, making some

00:36:37.730 --> 00:36:41.090
really good plays. I found it really interesting

00:36:41.090 --> 00:36:46.150
to see Albert in that 8 role that Obed was playing.

00:36:46.329 --> 00:36:48.489
And I'm a little bummed that we're not going

00:36:48.489 --> 00:36:52.070
to see that next week against RSL. Just because

00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:55.869
we have so much offensive firepower between Paul

00:36:55.869 --> 00:36:58.530
Rothrock, Jesus Ferreira, Pedro de la Vega, Jordan

00:36:58.530 --> 00:37:01.769
Morris up top. Having Christian and Albert...

00:37:02.030 --> 00:37:05.969
As more attacking options, I am frankly surprised

00:37:05.969 --> 00:37:09.710
we only got one goal today. Portland's definitely

00:37:09.710 --> 00:37:13.250
upped their defense from previous years for sure,

00:37:13.389 --> 00:37:16.690
but I thought we had some good opportunities

00:37:16.690 --> 00:37:21.050
to get more than one goal. But most importantly,

00:37:21.110 --> 00:37:24.590
let's just appreciate the fact that we got a

00:37:24.590 --> 00:37:27.829
clean sheet. Clean sheets are always good, and

00:37:27.829 --> 00:37:30.550
this is the time of year to just keep that going.

00:37:31.530 --> 00:37:33.730
You know, I think I've been on the we need to

00:37:33.730 --> 00:37:36.130
start Thomas hype train, but I will say that

00:37:36.130 --> 00:37:39.269
Fry had a great game today and that he proved

00:37:39.269 --> 00:37:43.409
why he is the starter, and I have no arguments

00:37:43.409 --> 00:37:45.869
against him. He had a great game, and I will

00:37:45.869 --> 00:37:48.349
give him his flowers today. I'm going to tell

00:37:48.349 --> 00:37:53.230
you straight up that there's... Yes, people are

00:37:53.230 --> 00:37:55.210
going to have preferences between Fry and Thomas,

00:37:55.449 --> 00:37:59.170
but there's no world in which you can convince

00:37:59.170 --> 00:38:04.119
me that... putting one over the other is going

00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:14.059
to... And the tears have overflowed. Wow. Yeah,

00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:18.179
I just don't see a world in which one over the

00:38:18.179 --> 00:38:24.659
other is going to net us a better record. I just,

00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:29.840
I think it may be a situation where, oh, And

00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.579
this is all hypothetical. We'll never actually

00:38:31.579 --> 00:38:34.460
know the answer to this. But I just don't see

00:38:34.460 --> 00:38:37.260
like, oh, like Fry makes that save. Okay, that

00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:41.460
gives us that 1 -0 win. But maybe, you know,

00:38:41.460 --> 00:38:45.659
Thomas makes the save where Fry made a mistake

00:38:45.659 --> 00:38:48.679
a couple weeks ago. You know, so I just, I think

00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.539
we're fine no matter which goalie we have. And

00:38:51.539 --> 00:38:55.619
because of that, I just can't, I feel like Steph's

00:38:55.619 --> 00:38:58.139
got to be our starter throughout the season and

00:38:58.139 --> 00:39:00.610
the playoffs. So I hope everybody's sitting down

00:39:00.610 --> 00:39:02.909
for this, but Nicholas, I agree with you. Oh,

00:39:02.929 --> 00:39:06.150
my God. Completely. I think Thomas is a better

00:39:06.150 --> 00:39:08.809
athlete right now. I think Fry has better game

00:39:08.809 --> 00:39:11.230
knowledge and management, and I don't think choosing

00:39:11.230 --> 00:39:13.010
one over the other is going to change the outcome

00:39:13.010 --> 00:39:17.590
of the games. Yeah, the only exception would

00:39:17.590 --> 00:39:20.289
be if we knew ahead of time that it was going

00:39:20.289 --> 00:39:25.269
to go to penalties, but I don't think it's worth

00:39:25.269 --> 00:39:29.300
putting him in. before penalties and switching

00:39:29.300 --> 00:39:31.619
goalies in the middle of a game. You ride the

00:39:31.619 --> 00:39:34.739
hand you're with. Let's talk about that red card.

00:39:36.539 --> 00:39:41.320
What red card? There was a red card? Yeah, Rusnak's

00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.579
red card that when he took the Portland player

00:39:44.579 --> 00:39:46.199
down from behind, he was on a breakaway, got

00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:47.719
a red card, which is the whole reason why we're

00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:49.699
not going to have him next week. I didn't see

00:39:49.699 --> 00:39:52.840
a red card. That's the only red card I remember.

00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.219
Yeah, I didn't see a red card. I didn't see anything

00:39:55.219 --> 00:39:59.360
foul play. I just saw the Sounders taking a chunk

00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.659
of someone's ankle. I saw a professional foul

00:40:02.659 --> 00:40:04.199
that had to be made because no one else was going

00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.760
to make it deeper down the field. Yeah, I mean,

00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.940
but it did result in a red. And like we said,

00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:12.679
it means that next week the Sounders have, what,

00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:17.079
usually they have played four, three. Players

00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:18.880
in the midfield, like the mid -midfield, we'll

00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.739
say, not counting wearers. And they are left

00:40:21.739 --> 00:40:25.440
with, what, four players for those three spots?

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:27.300
Or is it three players for those three spots?

00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:30.400
Two players for the three spots? Oh, my God.

00:40:30.780 --> 00:40:38.219
We literally only have Danny Leyva and Jao Paulo.

00:40:39.359 --> 00:40:41.579
Which, by the way, shout out to Jao Paulo for

00:40:41.579 --> 00:40:44.460
getting his first minutes back from injury. It's

00:40:44.460 --> 00:40:46.320
just so good to see him back on the field again.

00:40:46.900 --> 00:40:48.420
Definitely really happy about that. But he's

00:40:48.420 --> 00:40:51.280
not 90 minutes fit. Why don't we call up former

00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.880
Ballard FC player Peter Kingston? Or we could

00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.079
call up, we were talking about this on the way

00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:56.679
over, Dan. What if we called up you and put him

00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.519
at center attacking mid? Me? You want me at CDM?

00:40:59.579 --> 00:41:02.760
I'll play goalie, but I won't play CDM. Didn't

00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.460
Smets play midfield back in his playing days?

00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.400
Let's get him on the field. He is on the team.

00:41:09.059 --> 00:41:13.219
I like the way you're thinking. Can Rothrock

00:41:13.219 --> 00:41:16.199
play midfield? Honestly, it's probably Jesus

00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:21.260
Ferreira doing what Albert was doing. I don't

00:41:21.260 --> 00:41:24.599
think you're going to put Pedro back there. I

00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:31.030
don't think. No. I don't know who's the most

00:41:31.030 --> 00:41:34.250
defensive. You know what? This is a Brian problem.

00:41:36.190 --> 00:41:37.989
Yeah, that's going to be fun. Now, here's the

00:41:37.989 --> 00:41:40.909
good news. The good news is we have two games

00:41:40.909 --> 00:41:44.150
to go. We're currently fifth in the table in

00:41:44.150 --> 00:41:48.050
the Western Conference. LAFC is four points ahead

00:41:48.050 --> 00:41:51.949
of us with two games in hand. So let's just stop

00:41:51.949 --> 00:41:54.409
ourselves right there from doing hypotheticals.

00:41:56.289 --> 00:42:00.130
Vancouver. is uncatchable we can't catch third

00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:05.590
but sixth place is Austin they are five points

00:42:05.590 --> 00:42:09.389
behind us with same number of games Portland

00:42:09.389 --> 00:42:12.630
is five points behind us but they only have one

00:42:12.630 --> 00:42:15.849
game left so they can't catch us so realistically

00:42:15.849 --> 00:42:18.849
we're pretty much locked into that five spots

00:42:18.849 --> 00:42:22.190
so if Alex or sorry if Albert's going to be out

00:42:22.190 --> 00:42:25.429
for a game you know this is probably the best

00:42:25.429 --> 00:42:29.070
case scenario get get him a chance to get some

00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:32.889
rest i guess yeah i think i agree with that i

00:42:32.889 --> 00:42:38.730
mean we um we really don't i think the question

00:42:38.730 --> 00:42:40.670
is who's gonna end up who are we gonna have to

00:42:40.670 --> 00:42:44.489
go play at first and uh my guess is it's gonna

00:42:44.489 --> 00:42:47.429
be vancouver or minnesota because lafc has those

00:42:47.429 --> 00:42:50.650
two games in hand and they seem unstoppable once

00:42:50.650 --> 00:42:52.349
since they brought in i mean sun and buonga together

00:42:52.349 --> 00:42:58.539
is sick but Four straight wins. Wow. Four goals

00:42:58.539 --> 00:43:00.760
and three of them and three goals on the other.

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:06.219
So they are pretty unstoppable. But, yeah, I

00:43:06.219 --> 00:43:09.300
mean, in the end, yeah, the red card happened.

00:43:09.340 --> 00:43:13.260
It was late. But Sounders came away victorious.

00:43:13.460 --> 00:43:17.079
I think Moose had a few chances to score. You

00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:19.739
want to talk about that LAFC real quick? Yeah,

00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.780
I just want to kind of point out just how dominant

00:43:21.780 --> 00:43:24.639
that pairing has been to start. Their last four

00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:27.039
games, they've scored four goals, four goals,

00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:32.280
four goals, and three. In LAFC versus San Jose,

00:43:32.539 --> 00:43:36.079
Buonga got a hat trick and Sun got a goal. So

00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.159
they were responsible for all four goals. Salt

00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.900
Lake, four to one. Sun got the hat trick and

00:43:40.900 --> 00:43:42.940
Buonga got the goal. So between that, they both

00:43:42.940 --> 00:43:47.380
got four goals. Then RSL again, Buonga got three.

00:43:48.010 --> 00:43:52.610
Sun got one. And then against St. Louis this

00:43:52.610 --> 00:43:57.550
week, Sun got two, Bwonga got one. So all of

00:43:57.550 --> 00:44:00.909
their goals in their last four games have come.

00:44:01.329 --> 00:44:05.929
So that's what, four, eight, 12, 15 goals have

00:44:05.929 --> 00:44:07.989
come between those two players in the last four

00:44:07.989 --> 00:44:10.590
games. You mean a summer signing can have a positive

00:44:10.590 --> 00:44:20.199
impact on a team? Don't you agree on that? a

00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:25.559
summer signing that we literally had no mechanism

00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.940
to bring in so let's let's not yeah would yes

00:44:30.940 --> 00:44:33.800
that summer signing is it's a great signing it's

00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.360
looking great he's also he's a he's a world -class

00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.920
player okay period let's not go there it's why

00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:41.699
when we were linked to drogba i was like i don't

00:44:41.699 --> 00:44:44.019
care when we bring him in Bring him in. And then

00:44:44.019 --> 00:44:47.039
it was too late eventually. But there's certain

00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:48.579
players that you know are going to come in and

00:44:48.579 --> 00:44:52.639
dominate. And it's players of that caliber, world

00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.420
-class players. Most players don't have that

00:44:54.420 --> 00:44:56.039
impact, as we saw most of the players that got

00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:58.619
signed this summer. They might have a little

00:44:58.619 --> 00:45:02.820
playoff impact, but they didn't have big games

00:45:02.820 --> 00:45:05.909
down the stretch. Son of Blanca together, I mean,

00:45:05.909 --> 00:45:07.829
you didn't go into assists on those where they

00:45:07.829 --> 00:45:09.849
had some assists on each other's goals, too.

00:45:09.909 --> 00:45:11.650
So if you talk about total goal contributions,

00:45:11.949 --> 00:45:15.550
it's more than 15. So it's pretty crazy. Wait,

00:45:15.570 --> 00:45:18.150
so Drogba was linked to the Saunders? Oh, at

00:45:18.150 --> 00:45:21.289
one point, there was, you know, when the rumor

00:45:21.289 --> 00:45:24.050
mill goes crazy, Drogba was linked to us. Torres

00:45:24.050 --> 00:45:27.530
was linked to us. There was a lot of crazy rumors

00:45:27.530 --> 00:45:30.510
at one point, but, you know, those things didn't—

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:35.900
the best player in the league, even though he

00:45:35.900 --> 00:45:38.639
lost the MVP to Robbie Keane. He was still fantastic.

00:45:39.139 --> 00:45:41.260
What's crazy is that he went to, out of all the

00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:43.840
teams he went to, he went to Montreal. Yeah.

00:45:43.900 --> 00:45:47.159
Which is crazy to me. Yeah. Yeah, it's the French.

00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:53.920
Those wily French. Beat me to it. Beat me to

00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:59.699
it. So with that in mind, any final words? Any

00:45:59.699 --> 00:46:06.110
last thoughts about tonight? Cameron, why don't

00:46:06.110 --> 00:46:09.949
we start with you? Big win. I think it changed

00:46:09.949 --> 00:46:14.190
our mentalities a lot, and I think the mentalities

00:46:14.190 --> 00:46:16.090
of a lot of the fans just to finally have a win,

00:46:16.130 --> 00:46:19.110
and a win against Portland. I know the last episode

00:46:19.110 --> 00:46:21.130
we did with the Ultras, we talked ourselves off

00:46:21.130 --> 00:46:23.469
the ledge and then proceeded to immediately get

00:46:23.469 --> 00:46:26.329
back on it but not record. So that was probably

00:46:26.329 --> 00:46:28.190
good because it would have been very negative

00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:30.829
episodes. And this makes me feel a little more

00:46:30.829 --> 00:46:33.469
positive where... you know, the teams we're going

00:46:33.469 --> 00:46:35.750
to play in the playoffs aren't Portland, but

00:46:35.750 --> 00:46:40.590
they, if we show up, we can play. We just got

00:46:40.590 --> 00:46:42.429
to show up. And this team is still very, very

00:46:42.429 --> 00:46:46.190
talented. And so it reminds us how good this

00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:48.389
team is, even though they've kind of shat the

00:46:48.389 --> 00:46:54.050
bed since the final there against Miami. So for

00:46:54.050 --> 00:46:56.530
me, as a collective, this team can play with

00:46:56.530 --> 00:46:59.150
anybody. We saw it against Miami. They can play

00:46:59.150 --> 00:47:01.570
with LA as a collective, even though they don't

00:47:01.570 --> 00:47:06.550
have, two players with the amount of form or

00:47:06.550 --> 00:47:10.170
top -level talent, world -class talent as L .A.,

00:47:10.170 --> 00:47:13.590
and that's okay. But also for me is we're playing

00:47:13.590 --> 00:47:17.630
with house money right now, and if we don't win

00:47:17.630 --> 00:47:20.190
another game this year, and this is how the season

00:47:20.190 --> 00:47:23.010
ends, we beat Portland and we got a trophy, so

00:47:23.010 --> 00:47:26.190
I'm pretty happy, and that's how I feel about

00:47:26.190 --> 00:47:30.090
it. I will just say real quick, just keep in

00:47:30.090 --> 00:47:31.909
mind that those last four games we talked about,

00:47:32.050 --> 00:47:36.829
it's been Salt Lake, Salt Lake twice, San Jose,

00:47:37.130 --> 00:47:42.889
St. Louis. So not exactly the top of the league.

00:47:43.250 --> 00:47:44.789
We're talking about our games. He was talking

00:47:44.789 --> 00:47:53.590
about our games, not LAFC's. Okay, well. I think

00:47:53.590 --> 00:47:55.550
the concern was saying that we don't have two

00:47:55.550 --> 00:47:59.889
top -end players like Buonga and Son. Yeah. Don't

00:47:59.889 --> 00:48:05.710
hate on Pedro. Okay, leave him alone. Like you

00:48:05.710 --> 00:48:08.469
guys are saying, I mean, it's nice to win a trophy

00:48:08.469 --> 00:48:13.030
against Messi, the Barca boys, and then to also

00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:16.329
finally get that monkey offer back and beat Portland

00:48:16.329 --> 00:48:20.150
at home. It feels really good. And, you know,

00:48:20.210 --> 00:48:22.889
yeah. I mean, do I want us to make a deep run

00:48:22.889 --> 00:48:27.070
into the playoffs? Yes, of course. But if that

00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:31.090
doesn't come into fruition, then it was still

00:48:31.090 --> 00:48:33.030
a great season, and we had some really great

00:48:33.030 --> 00:48:36.269
moments. We're definitely not winning the MLS

00:48:36.269 --> 00:48:39.210
Fair Play Award, though, that they give out every

00:48:39.210 --> 00:48:44.190
year. I mean, all our red cards. I mean, it feels

00:48:44.190 --> 00:48:46.269
like every single person on this team has gotten

00:48:46.269 --> 00:48:51.179
a red card. That's kind of funny. But, yeah,

00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:53.760
great game. Happy to be here. I thought, wasn't

00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:55.639
that the whole point? Give racism the red card?

00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.579
That's that whole campaign they have. This is

00:48:57.579 --> 00:49:02.239
why we keep getting it, right? You know, a quick

00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.000
side note, though. Did they not do the soccer

00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.599
kicks cancer in September? I don't remember seeing

00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.239
anything about that this year. They wore the

00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:15.539
jersey, the warm -up tops for it. The warming?

00:49:16.869 --> 00:49:21.409
The warming? It's after midnight. I'm sleepy.

00:49:22.230 --> 00:49:25.389
I have to get up and go to a Taylor Swift movie

00:49:25.389 --> 00:49:30.309
tomorrow. Let's wrap it up before we die. Didn't

00:49:30.309 --> 00:49:32.769
you say yes to that in the first place? I did.

00:49:32.809 --> 00:49:34.710
Let's wrap it up because we're about to lose

00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:40.590
all our power here. Hashtag free Pedro. All right,

00:49:40.610 --> 00:49:44.050
you know what? Where can we find you all? They're

00:49:44.050 --> 00:49:46.320
all on the Discord. That's what they always say.

00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:48.099
They no longer give out their internets. I'm

00:49:48.099 --> 00:49:50.260
legal -minded punk on everywhere but X because

00:49:50.260 --> 00:49:52.940
I'm still banned because of Liverpool fans and

00:49:52.940 --> 00:49:59.920
Dick Tracy. And I am cascades to see on Instagram

00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:04.199
and you can find me on the discord under Nicholas.

00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.920
We want to sing build a bonfire, build a bonfire,

00:50:09.019 --> 00:50:13.380
put the timbers on the top with the white caps

00:50:13.380 --> 00:50:17.000
in the middle. And we'll burn the fucking lot.

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