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It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes

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from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest

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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,

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your moment. Welcome to another edition of Scuttlebutt

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Ultras. It's Ultras Only today. It's me, Cedar,

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with Dan the Bastard and Alex Diaz. What's up,

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guys? Where's Cameron at? Yeah, did he get kidnapped

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or something? Well, he got hacked again. We hacked

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him again because we really wanted to record

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and he's busy. He said something about a comedy

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show and I don't know whether he's performing

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or... He's just going to one. I don't know, but

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we need to, we have some stuff to talk about.

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So I think we can break pretty big news. He gave

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us the password to the podcast. And so I'm going

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to just share it with everybody. Let me pull

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it up. I believe it is. I love Liverpool forever.

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One, two, three, four. So anybody that wants

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to get on the pod, that's all you got to do.

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I didn't realize he was a Liverpool fan, but

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I guess secretly deep down, everybody is. Deeply

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closeted. But that's okay. Now that the secret's

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out, you know, just come on over. Either that

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or he's still on a bender after drinking that

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whiskey during the last game. So maybe he's just

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been sipping whiskey this entire time and that's

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why we can't get a hold of him. I wouldn't be

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surprised. I mean, wouldn't you be on a bender

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after that? Victory? Yeah, I'm still on a bender.

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I've been completely... If I was worthless at

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work before the game, you should have seen me

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afterwards. So I'm assuming everyone did enjoy

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the game, right? Oh, yes. Top five best moment

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of your life? Definitely top five Sounders viewing

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experience. I, the last, the last, I, I didn't

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get to travel up to go see the game, but it was

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okay. Cause I got to watch it with my dad. And

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the last time that we were in a, in a big cup

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final was a CONCACAF champions league. And at

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that point in my life, I was, I was down visiting

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my now ex fiance and we were watching it and,

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you know, it was fine, but like, she's not. sounders

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fan in fact i think she's a messy fan i think

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she's a pretty big messy fan and uh knowing that

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uh feels pretty good to have won on sunday so

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it was great that i got to watch it with my dad

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i mean you could feel the energy from even just

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watching it on tv like all the people there uh

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they broke the attendance record you know they've

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they've packed in every single person they could

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into that building and you could feel it and

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it was awesome Yeah, it was electric watching

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it on TV, but Alex was there. How did it feel

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in the stadium, Alex? Man, it was like a blur.

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The game felt that it went by so quick. And I

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know earlier we talked about how do you feel

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about getting beer thrown on you? I'm like, I

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didn't care that I was covered in beer at the

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end of the game because it was electric. That's

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my first cup final, and seeing the stadium as

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packed as it was, I was amazed. And it was mainly

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green. There was a few pink, but not as much

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as I thought it would. I was going to ask that,

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because from the TV, you could... the pink jerseys

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really stood out on the broadcast. And so I was

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just wondering, in fact, in the intros, I saw

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some pink jerseys in the ECS. So I was wondering

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if you see pink jerseys in ECS or do they get

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kicked out? Oh, they got kicked out. That is

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great to hear. Yeah, they were. The ECS security

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was doing a good job. That is that is outstanding.

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So. With that said, this was your first final,

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right, Alex? Yeah. First final as a Sounders

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fan of mine, too. I'm still riding high on a

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buzz, and I just can't believe that we beat Messi.

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Well, I can believe we beat Messi because I felt

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good about the game. I just can't believe that

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we bossed Miami the way that we did to the point

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that we caused them to crash out. and cry at

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the end of the game and, you know, just act full.

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So that was outstanding. And the thing that gets

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me, too, is that that wasn't even our full -strength

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team. Like, we're missing two DPs. No Ryan Kent,

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no Danny Mussofsky, right? These guys who have

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been in our starting lineup. No knew who. Fry

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doesn't play this tournament. And if you were

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going to say that we were going to shut down

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Messi and the Barca boys, you would think Nuhu

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would have been on the field from a defensive

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perspective, right, with just his ability to

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completely close down the left side of the field

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for us. And so Reed Baker Whiting did a wonderful

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job. All these young guys stepped up. And afterwards,

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as I was reflecting on it, I – this is – I'm

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sure this is hyperbole, but I felt like it, with

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the story of the game, it was kind of like the

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American story. I felt like I was watching FIFO

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Goes West, where we have all these young players,

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local to Seattle. And the way they beat Messi

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and the Barca boys was they worked harder. They

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worked harder in the practices leading up to

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this. They worked harder the entire year. And

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you finally got to see the fruits of the labor

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and the idea that... Work actually does hard

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work does does provide victories and you can

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win off of cohesion, hard work and beat some

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of the most talented soccer players. Regardless,

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they're all old now, too, and maybe they're they're

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finally on a decline. But that was one of my

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big takeaways was it was a it was a Brian Schmetzer

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win because they did what Brian said. They believed

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what Brian Schmesser's principles are, and it

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really worked on the field, and it was exciting.

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And, well, I mean, they deserved it. These boys

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deserve every accolade that they get. How do

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you all feel about the – so the narrative coming

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out of this is, if you watch the national news

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or even the world news, it's less about Seattle

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and more about what happened after the game.

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And so do y 'all feel like that is taken away

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from some of Seattle's accolades? In a way, no,

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because I feel like that's for anybody who is

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going to see that story who wouldn't otherwise

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have known about the week's cup. I feel like,

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you know, they weren't going to, aside from it

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being messy in the final. Unless they're tracking

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Messi's every move, which there are a lot of

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people who do that. For anybody else who's just

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a casual worldwide soccer fan, that might have

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kind of spurred them on to be like, oh, well,

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why did Miami crash out? And then see like, oh,

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because the Sounders skunked them 3 -0. So I

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don't mind it from that perspective, because

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I think anybody who's watched that game as a

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Sounders fan, you know. you know what that feels

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like, you know, to win that big game. I mean,

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it really felt like a, an MLS cup final with

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just a lot less run up. That's kind of what it

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felt like. It's like, Oh shit, we're playing,

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you know, MLS cup basically against inner Miami.

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Even though it's not obviously, but it, that's

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kind of what it felt like in a very compressed

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amount of time. So I don't think it takes away

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from anything. I think it just kind of, adds

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to the lore of it, of just how deep under their

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skin that we got. Reportedly, Messi was saying

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stuff to Pedro de la Vega and Obed on the field

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during the game. Apparently, it wasn't just standard

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trash talk, but another Sounders podcast reported

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that, he said to obid um during the game you

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are shit and you'll never leave mls and whether

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or not that uh i mean i don't know if i i i mean

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i want to hear what you got your guys's opinions

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on this are because i just like not that i'm

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a messy fan or anything i don't really i don't

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really care about messy before and now i i'm

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like you know afterwards i'm like okay uh but

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It just feels like a very surprising, if that

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were to be true, that just feels very surprising

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to me. I wouldn't imagine him to be capable of

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an extremely dick move towards a young footballer

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who's building their career and probably grew

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up idolizing Messi. I mean, what do you guys

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feel like? What are you thinking about it, Alex?

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How did you feel? They're in the stadium. Seeing

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the clash and then the aftermath of all the BS

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that's coming out with sounding like, if you

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believe the reports, it sure sounds like Messi

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and his friends maybe got their bitch game on

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really high. No, I think that basically the run

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-up to the game was that it was Miami's final.

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They were going to win. They expected Seattle

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just to bend over and let them do whatever they

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were going to do. and win League's Cup. And when

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they saw that Seattle was on their ass the whole

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game, and Messi was getting frustrated because

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Obed was on him the whole game, he would give

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a pass, and Obed would give him a nice little

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bump. I don't know if you guys caught that. And

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then the team was complaining the whole game

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about they were touching Messi too hard. And

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he's over there crying, asking for a foul. And

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I think... They got in his head, and we saw that

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in the second half when he missed that one -on

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-one chance. Nine times out of ten, I see him

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make that shot. Yeah, and how much was that shot,

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just him missing, because even the best players

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do miss, or how much of it was you have Thomas

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charging at him, making himself big, and then

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everything going on with the atmosphere of the

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crowd, which... Even though you saw pink jerseys,

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you could hear that it was a Sounders -friendly

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crowd. You could hear the boos every time Messi

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touched the ball. I want to thank you, Alex,

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for being there and helping with those boos every

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time Messi touched the ball. I think that some

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of the environment helped with getting in his

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head and putting that ball over, right? He sold

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it? Yeah, he sold it up to the Hawks' nest. Yeah,

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he put it in the Hawks' nest, gave somebody a

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gift, said, here, take that. Yeah, I don't know.

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I think we will never know exactly what Messi,

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some of the shit talk that was on the field.

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We probably shouldn't know. That should probably

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stay between the players. But you can tell by

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watching, especially after the fight, there's

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that one clip where they're getting in the line

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so that Messi can go get their participation

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trophy for getting their asses kicked by the

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Sounders. You can see Messi join with Pedro from

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from across the field and Pedro turn look and

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just be like, what's happening? What are you

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doing? What are you saying? And so you it just

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it was in their heads. One of the big takeaways

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for me, too, is, as I said before, this game

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that the MLS should have. So I feel like the

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advertising for Messi coming to the league is

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come look at Messi, come to your hometown and

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do fancy things with the ball. Right. Come come

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look at the circus. Come come look at the Harlem

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Grove Trotters of the MLS, if you will, as they,

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you know, do something fancy and put the ball

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in the back of the net. There's nothing your

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team can do to stop. And they should have said,

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hey, come support your team as they take on the

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best, because if they beat the best, they will

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be the best. And I think we finally got to that

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arc where that's the overlying statement that

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people are saying is the fans have turned on

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Messi a little bit. It started with Minnesota

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and their Pink Phony Club. And you saw it now

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after this game. A lot of people are, I think,

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MLS fans sided with Seattle or happy with Seattle's

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performance, but just finally getting to see

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Messi and company whenever they don't get handed

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whatever they expect to be handed to them. And

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it is a thing of beauty. And we beat the best.

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So I think that makes us the best right now.

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I think so. Yeah, I think we've been one of the

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best post -Club World Cup. I think we're 9 -1

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-4 since Club World Cup. It really makes those

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people like myself that was begging for a summer

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signing feel a little silly now coming out of

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that. And maybe we should give Craig his flowers

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in the way that they built this team and saying,

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hey, yeah, a deep team is able to compete and

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maybe miss underestimating what Brian could bring

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to the table and getting these boys energized

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and ready to go. So I should probably stop questioning

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what they're doing. a liver as a liverpool fan

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also you know it's it's nice because then you

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get that satisfaction of like all these big signings

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over the summer right and then on the flip side

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as a sounders fan you get that trophy with you

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know the the hometown heroes right i mean it's

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it's it's kind of the best of both worlds so

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well yeah i guess we we can't really complain

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you know what i'm saying that's probably why

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cameron chose that password then and so that

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he could have the best of both worlds oh absolutely

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he just wants it both ways yeah yeah he wants

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to be a fan of the best uh premier team and the

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best mls team Oh, well, you guys didn't hear

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that his ex, his Twitter account's password was

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WeHavePaulRothrock? Oh, is it? Yeah. That's why.

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That's why he got hacked, huh? Yeah. After Brian

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leaked it, it all went downhill. Can we just

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talk about Brian Schmetzer for a second? I mean,

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if... If you guys haven't watched his post -game

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conference, his press conference that he gave,

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I mean, it's incredible. I've always enjoyed

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Brian, but, I mean, he is just so impressive.

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He is, like, absolutely so impressive. He just

00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.789
keeps cementing. his legacy here I mean it's

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it's really really incredible it's it's really

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incredible to step back and kind of look at the

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totality of of what he's helped build and then

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you know think about like the future too I mean

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what are the I mean what are the kind of the

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realistic heights that do that you guys think

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this team could achieve come say next club world

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cup you know what I'm saying like Like, if we

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win Champions Cup again and punch our ticket

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to Club World Cup in 2029, I mean, with this

00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:50.139
kind of organizational momentum and just the

00:16:50.139 --> 00:16:54.299
sheer buy -in from the staff, the front office,

00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:58.529
the players, you know, the owner, right? the

00:16:58.529 --> 00:17:01.450
fans like everybody's bought in and we have our

00:17:01.450 --> 00:17:04.269
disagreements about you know certain things how

00:17:04.269 --> 00:17:08.009
things are done but like i mean that was a sunday

00:17:08.009 --> 00:17:11.670
was a moment of just sheer unity and like you

00:17:11.670 --> 00:17:16.569
know being the underdog but like making inner

00:17:16.569 --> 00:17:20.559
miami just look It wasn't even about making them

00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.000
look bad. I mean, we were just better. I mean,

00:17:23.019 --> 00:17:24.980
we were just better. They wanted it more. We

00:17:24.980 --> 00:17:30.099
wanted it more. They wanted it more. With second

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-string guys, third -string guys in a lot of

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instances, what kind of heights do you see this

00:17:36.579 --> 00:17:40.000
club going to in the next kind of Club World

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Cup cycle, right? Is Brian going to be here for

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the next Club World Cup? That's a good question.

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Honestly, I hope he is, but if he moves on to

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becoming the manager of Team USA, I would not

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be mad at that. Well, it would probably be one

00:18:02.329 --> 00:18:04.529
of the best things to happen to the U .S. men's

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team. What's the show on 93 .3 that he talks

00:18:10.890 --> 00:18:14.769
on every Tuesday? Soft Dicky or whatever? Softy

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and Dick, I think. Interesting choice of names.

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Yeah, I don't necessarily listen to them much

00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.960
because, well, I mean, who listens to the radio?

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I'm under the age of 50, so that's probably their

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target audience. But I did see the clip where

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he was saying, you know, he mentioned again,

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this is the second time that he mentioned that

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he would love to coach that team. I think that's

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a natural, that would be a natural. progression

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for him otherwise i don't ever see him moving

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on to an another mls team i don't see him coaching

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in europe or any other league right i mean that

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would be very shocking to me i feel like coaching

00:19:01.630 --> 00:19:04.789
the u .s would be a natural progression or he'd

00:19:04.789 --> 00:19:07.470
just coach the sounders till he you know kicks

00:19:07.470 --> 00:19:09.809
the bucket i could also see a world where he

00:19:09.809 --> 00:19:12.630
decides to retire at some point too maybe have

00:19:12.630 --> 00:19:16.630
an advisory role in the front office. But that's,

00:19:16.630 --> 00:19:20.049
you know, here, there. I think if, you know,

00:19:20.109 --> 00:19:24.670
it's, this is just what this club does. They,

00:19:24.789 --> 00:19:28.089
every three years, they win a trophy, right?

00:19:28.250 --> 00:19:32.849
I think someone asked him, asked Brian in the

00:19:32.849 --> 00:19:36.089
press conference how. how meaningful this one

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is and where does where does this league's cup

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rank as far as everything that brian's won and

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brian said uh ask me again in 2028 basically

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right i'll get you an answer in 2028 which is

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i guess when they're scheduled to win their next

00:19:47.369 --> 00:19:55.349
cup so so uh yeah it i i i would hope the next

00:19:55.349 --> 00:19:58.259
club world cup One, that we're able to get to

00:19:58.259 --> 00:20:00.339
it, but we're on the right path to get back.

00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:01.579
We're doing all the right things to get back

00:20:01.579 --> 00:20:04.000
to the Club World Cup. I would hope that maybe

00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.480
we would be in a little bit more of an even draw

00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.160
bucket with some of the teams, not the group

00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:14.339
of death. If we were in Miami's bucket, I think

00:20:14.339 --> 00:20:17.079
that we would have won game, right? Like if we

00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:18.819
would have been in a different bucket, you have

00:20:18.819 --> 00:20:20.500
to say that we would have at least won a game

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and possibly even moved out with the way that

00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:25.740
we played. I think we win. I think so, but I

00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:31.900
also think it was almost better that we were

00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:35.019
in the group of death because it really pushed

00:20:35.019 --> 00:20:37.819
our guys to the limit and also gave them confidence

00:20:37.819 --> 00:20:41.240
where they're able to play against some of the

00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.819
best teams in the world and see like, oh, I can

00:20:43.819 --> 00:20:47.660
hit that extra level I never knew I had because

00:20:47.660 --> 00:20:51.960
they hadn't been tested like that. And I think...

00:20:52.190 --> 00:20:56.589
maybe if we were in an easier group and we make

00:20:56.589 --> 00:21:00.789
it out right but obviously the chances of moving

00:21:00.789 --> 00:21:04.809
on winning the whole thing are slim to none i

00:21:04.809 --> 00:21:07.650
think in the long run it probably turned out

00:21:07.650 --> 00:21:10.589
in our favor even better to to get our asses

00:21:10.589 --> 00:21:14.690
kicked right but not not so badly you know what

00:21:14.690 --> 00:21:17.150
i'm saying but like to give them that confidence

00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:20.009
of like wow we can hit that extra level what

00:21:20.009 --> 00:21:24.619
do you think alex No, yeah, I think even though

00:21:24.619 --> 00:21:28.640
we didn't get a result in Global Cup, we saw

00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:32.339
that our players were able to compete and keep

00:21:32.339 --> 00:21:37.480
the game competitive. We saw, what was it, a

00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.500
2 -1 or a 1 -0 against, I think it was 2 -1 against

00:21:40.500 --> 00:21:43.259
Botafogo. It was competitive the whole way through.

00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.500
We played Atletico Madrid and it was 3 -1, but

00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:50.559
it was still competitive. And then we played

00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.140
PSG and we lost 2 -0. But that game was also

00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:58.059
very competitive. We didn't get blown out. The

00:21:58.059 --> 00:22:00.180
Pink Phony Club played PSG the next round and

00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:03.400
they got blown out. So I think that's just a

00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:08.240
testament of our coach, of our team, of our players,

00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.740
our organization. And this team has bought in

00:22:11.740 --> 00:22:15.779
to the whole culture of we're together. This

00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:19.099
is a team. like you see the guys in the interviews,

00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:22.220
they ask them, well, how do you like, they ask

00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:24.160
Pedro, Oh, how does it, how do you feel about

00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.720
being the player of the league's cup? And he's

00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:28.819
like, this is a testament to, to a team. Like,

00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:33.279
this is a, like they're, this is not a me, a

00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.980
me team. This is us. This is we like this. It

00:22:36.980 --> 00:22:38.779
wouldn't be possible for me to get this award

00:22:38.779 --> 00:22:42.880
if it wasn't for the team. One of the biggest

00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.279
testaments to that point is whenever you listen

00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.460
to the players talk, they're repeating the things

00:22:48.460 --> 00:22:52.920
that you know Brian has said. Because that's

00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.940
what they believe. So that's a big testament

00:22:56.940 --> 00:23:02.829
to that. For the game. On the field, it got testy

00:23:02.829 --> 00:23:05.589
in the crowd. Did it get testy in the crowd,

00:23:05.670 --> 00:23:08.049
too? Like, was there that same energy with having

00:23:08.049 --> 00:23:11.390
Miami Jersey's around? And as we just continue

00:23:11.390 --> 00:23:13.950
to, you know, there by the 80th minute, you kind

00:23:13.950 --> 00:23:15.529
of had an idea we were going to win. How did

00:23:15.529 --> 00:23:21.990
that feel in the stadium, Alex? It was, you would

00:23:21.990 --> 00:23:25.690
hear, like, the O's, like when Miami missed their

00:23:25.690 --> 00:23:28.509
chances. And, you know, during the stadium, it

00:23:28.509 --> 00:23:31.569
felt like the energy felt good. Like being an

00:23:31.569 --> 00:23:34.410
ECS, we just felt like we just kept the energy

00:23:34.410 --> 00:23:36.990
going. I think we helped push the team. And I

00:23:36.990 --> 00:23:39.029
went ahead and rewatched the game. I rewatched

00:23:39.029 --> 00:23:41.470
it twice now. I watched it in English and then

00:23:41.470 --> 00:23:44.369
I rewatched it last night in Spanish. And I was

00:23:44.369 --> 00:23:47.529
in the second half, Miami really like put us

00:23:47.529 --> 00:23:50.609
under the pressure. And, you know, Brian Smetcher

00:23:50.609 --> 00:23:54.589
made subs. He put in Georgie. And right away

00:23:54.589 --> 00:23:57.289
he went and he won us that penalty to help, you

00:23:57.289 --> 00:24:01.660
know, ice the game out a little bit. And then

00:24:01.660 --> 00:24:05.579
we get the third, Rothrock. Rothrock ending the

00:24:05.579 --> 00:24:10.119
third is just storybook ending. Playing from

00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:16.019
the nine too. Playing as a nine. And as I'm celebrating

00:24:16.019 --> 00:24:17.960
the goal, I can't finish celebrating the goal

00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:21.619
and the referee blows the whistle. Incredible.

00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.880
And then I get emotional because it's just like

00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:30.539
I'm proud to be a Saunders fan. And it almost

00:24:30.539 --> 00:24:34.759
felt like I was also a part of that game. So

00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:37.539
that win was not only for the players, but it

00:24:37.539 --> 00:24:39.920
was for us, the fan base, and the whole city.

00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:47.799
Yeah. So do you think it's we're going to, with

00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:49.700
that win, do you think that's going to spur more

00:24:49.700 --> 00:24:52.799
people coming in and we can reverse some of these

00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.559
declining numbers in the stadium trend? Yeah,

00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.440
I think so. I think with this one, there's probably

00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.099
people that it's their first Sounders game and

00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:03.680
they live in Seattle and they're like, oh, let's

00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.920
go because Messi's coming to town. They're like,

00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:07.299
oh, they're playing the Sounders. Let's see what

00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:09.180
the Sounders have. And then they see, you know,

00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:14.460
Sounders skunk them 3 -0. And they're like, you

00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:17.259
know what? We can watch this team every week.

00:25:18.500 --> 00:25:20.759
And starting next season, they're going to have

00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:23.359
a new supporter plan that you can come join us

00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:32.140
in ECS. For only $19 .74 a game. Nice. There

00:25:32.140 --> 00:25:35.579
we go. Get butts in seats. That's what it's all

00:25:35.579 --> 00:25:37.539
about. The front office has been doing a great

00:25:37.539 --> 00:25:40.500
job with bringing people in and making people

00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:42.119
feel like they're part of the club and giving

00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:44.980
you that experience that you felt like you are

00:25:44.980 --> 00:25:49.819
part of the club. I couldn't imagine. I don't

00:25:49.819 --> 00:25:51.839
feel like I missed out by watching the game at

00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:55.470
home. I feel like I missed out with the postgame

00:25:55.470 --> 00:25:58.609
celebration and the interaction that you had

00:25:58.609 --> 00:26:00.509
there in the ECS with the players. And I'm sitting

00:26:00.509 --> 00:26:02.769
here watching the highlights and stuff of the

00:26:02.769 --> 00:26:04.710
players coming up, holding the trophy up to the

00:26:04.710 --> 00:26:07.609
fans. And I bet that was just an amazing feeling.

00:26:08.329 --> 00:26:11.150
Yeah, it was great. It was great that the players

00:26:11.150 --> 00:26:15.210
came and were willing to share this moment with

00:26:15.210 --> 00:26:17.869
us. Because their families were all on the field,

00:26:17.970 --> 00:26:20.609
but they took time to come, you know, come give

00:26:20.609 --> 00:26:23.759
us a little speech. you know, hold up the trophy

00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.000
and give us, give us our little moment with them.

00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:31.900
That was, that was great. That's so cool. That's

00:26:31.900 --> 00:26:36.940
awesome. So I think this is a good spot for us

00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:40.039
to take a break. So we're going to let y 'all

00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.440
listen to Cameron for just a couple of minutes

00:26:42.440 --> 00:27:04.730
and then we will be right back. Hey everybody,

00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:07.269
this is one of your hosts, Cameron Collins. Now,

00:27:07.390 --> 00:27:09.769
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-M. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:52.799
And we are back. So we were just chatting off

00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.420
the air while Cameron was telling you all about

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the benefits of all the cool things that you

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at Scuttlebutt. But we were talking about, so

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:12.210
I wanted to ask a question for you, Alex. With

00:29:12.210 --> 00:29:14.609
everything going on and League's Cup has now

00:29:14.609 --> 00:29:16.730
come out and give punishment, do you think there

00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.529
should be punishment from MLS or do you think

00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:21.890
League's Cup kind of just covered it? I think

00:29:21.890 --> 00:29:25.990
MLS has to do something. And I think that League's

00:29:25.990 --> 00:29:29.369
Cup set the bare minimum or they set the standard

00:29:29.369 --> 00:29:35.569
that MLS can follow. But if MLS doesn't do anything,

00:29:35.710 --> 00:29:39.609
then that's going to raise a few eyebrows. It's

00:29:39.609 --> 00:29:44.250
going to be... What I want to know is, isn't

00:29:44.250 --> 00:29:49.710
League's Cup property of both MLS and League

00:29:49.710 --> 00:29:52.730
of Mechies, right? Yeah, I think it's convenient

00:29:52.730 --> 00:30:00.329
for Dawn. That's like halfway MLS's decision

00:30:00.329 --> 00:30:02.930
already, right? They had to have been involved

00:30:02.930 --> 00:30:05.950
in that decision. I mean, I know nothing about

00:30:05.950 --> 00:30:08.769
the corporate structure of all of that, but I'm

00:30:08.769 --> 00:30:13.029
assuming. that they were involved in some capacity

00:30:13.029 --> 00:30:18.130
in that decision. So you would think that, I

00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:20.849
don't know. I'm of the opinion that Suarez should

00:30:20.849 --> 00:30:23.390
get just kicked out of the league. Yeah, lifetime

00:30:23.390 --> 00:30:26.490
bans. Get him out of here. This is ridiculous.

00:30:26.809 --> 00:30:29.950
This is absolutely ridiculous. Look, you have,

00:30:29.950 --> 00:30:33.890
especially because it's Messi, you have children

00:30:33.890 --> 00:30:38.319
all around the world watching this game. These

00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.519
are their role models, right? And if they're

00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.240
allowed to behave like this and get away with

00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.339
it... Look, nobody gives a shit about a League

00:30:47.339 --> 00:30:51.680
Cup suspension. Half the posts I've seen online

00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:57.259
from Reddit, it'll be the soccer subreddit, whatever.

00:30:57.660 --> 00:30:59.960
Half the people are calling it the League Cup.

00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.000
They don't even know what this competition is.

00:31:02.539 --> 00:31:04.839
They don't even know the proper name, right?

00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:09.430
So I'm like... The point being, a lot of people

00:31:09.430 --> 00:31:11.769
are tuning in. They're not seeing what is, you

00:31:11.769 --> 00:31:15.410
know, blah, blah, blah. If Luis Suarez is being

00:31:15.410 --> 00:31:18.490
broadcast all over the world, him spitting on,

00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:22.470
you know, Gene Ramirez, our head of security,

00:31:22.869 --> 00:31:27.390
then that's reprehensible. That's morally bankrupt

00:31:27.390 --> 00:31:29.930
behavior. He needs to be out of the league. That's

00:31:29.930 --> 00:31:33.490
not okay. We can't normalize this. And again,

00:31:33.650 --> 00:31:37.119
no six game leagues kept suspension. Whatever.

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:42.460
Like, who cares? They gave Dempsey an MLS suspension

00:31:42.460 --> 00:31:46.660
for US Open Cup, right? For a much less... For

00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:49.940
helping the referee with his notebook. Know what

00:31:49.940 --> 00:31:51.700
I mean? Like, the referee did not know how to

00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:54.079
use his notebook, and Dempsey fixed it for him.

00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:59.460
Yeah. Dempsey was in... He was morally right

00:31:59.460 --> 00:32:02.700
to do that. That was a righteous action, even

00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:04.990
if it's against the rules. Right, yeah. It was

00:32:04.990 --> 00:32:08.049
okay for him to do that. And no bodily fluids.

00:32:08.670 --> 00:32:10.849
No, it wasn't. Exactly. It wasn't against the

00:32:10.849 --> 00:32:14.410
rules. They made a rule for it now. He created

00:32:14.410 --> 00:32:19.150
a new rule. He's inspirational. He set the standard.

00:32:19.430 --> 00:32:22.930
There you go. No, but talking about Suarez and

00:32:22.930 --> 00:32:24.349
Busquets suspension, they're going to retire.

00:32:24.950 --> 00:32:27.069
Suarez can't even run. You seen when he was chasing

00:32:27.069 --> 00:32:30.650
Pedro? Yeah, but those passes, though. I mean,

00:32:30.670 --> 00:32:33.029
look, that's the thing. I mean, Miami had those.

00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:36.559
chances and boy were they really really good

00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.619
i mean we kind of all thought that they were

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:41.160
going to get a couple of chances and you know

00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.779
probably put them away and they got really close

00:32:43.779 --> 00:32:46.920
to doing that well you know putting away chances

00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.039
isn't isn't something for everybody we had our

00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.759
fair share we exactly yeah hey sue should have

00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.180
had a goal but i will say on the second shot

00:32:56.180 --> 00:33:00.400
that they missed that i think By looking at the

00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.339
body language, especially last night, it looked

00:33:02.339 --> 00:33:04.599
like he was going to go near post, but he saw

00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.319
Thomas go down, so he switched it up last minute

00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.660
and he hit it wide. So he just got in his head.

00:33:11.299 --> 00:33:15.859
That's big boy Thomas. They also looked like

00:33:15.859 --> 00:33:17.599
after they missed the second goal, they kind

00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:19.299
of looked like they knew that it's not their

00:33:19.299 --> 00:33:21.200
day and that's pretty much it too. There was

00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.940
a lot of negative body language they had the

00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:26.119
whole game, but you could see it there, at least

00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.950
from the TV. that that was their chance and they

00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:37.970
lost it. No, but I'm glad that they broadcasted

00:33:37.970 --> 00:33:43.490
the brawl on the national TV. Now, what about

00:33:43.490 --> 00:33:46.130
the second brawl, the brawl with the fans outside?

00:33:46.329 --> 00:33:49.430
Have you all seen those clips on Reddit? Yeah,

00:33:49.950 --> 00:33:53.589
I've seen the clip, but I was still in the stadium

00:33:53.589 --> 00:33:58.339
at the time that it allegedly happened. i i'm

00:33:58.339 --> 00:34:00.380
really surprised that we haven't heard heard

00:34:00.380 --> 00:34:03.519
more of that because you know it's it's i have

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.420
not seen it on i think the only news outlet i've

00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:09.539
seen it on is like the new york post which is

00:34:09.539 --> 00:34:14.280
i mean that's that is a um i don't believe anything

00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:18.059
they ever write so i i don't know it's uh right

00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:24.400
yeah it's like you know no so maybe it could

00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:26.920
be mls you know trying to put this under the

00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.300
rug because they just want to deal with one brawl

00:34:29.300 --> 00:34:32.480
and not two? It wouldn't surprise me. They want

00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.980
the spitting to be the worst thing that happened

00:34:34.980 --> 00:34:38.760
there. Not the trash cans being thrown afterwards.

00:34:39.139 --> 00:34:45.099
The traffic cones, the unconscious man in a Sounders

00:34:45.099 --> 00:34:48.480
jersey on the ground getting repeatedly beat

00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.369
by a man in a pink jersey. over and over based

00:34:52.369 --> 00:34:55.989
on this video. It's a violent video. It's really...

00:34:55.989 --> 00:35:03.469
Well, you know. You know. Yeah, I mean, it's...

00:35:03.469 --> 00:35:08.949
I almost want to... I almost wish it was just

00:35:08.949 --> 00:35:11.809
AI, right? Because it's horrible. I mean, it's

00:35:11.809 --> 00:35:14.130
horrible to think about that kind of violence

00:35:14.130 --> 00:35:18.849
being right here in our home stadium, right?

00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:21.159
I mean, that's terrible. We don't want to see

00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.239
that anywhere, right? But especially when it

00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:27.980
happens in your backyard, you're like, wow, that's

00:35:27.980 --> 00:35:30.699
really not okay. And I get everybody's like,

00:35:30.860 --> 00:35:37.639
oh, games back. People are finally taking soccer

00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.440
seriously in America. And I think one of the

00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.519
hallmarks of American soccer culture, it's...

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.860
so far is that it's blended so many different

00:35:46.860 --> 00:35:49.460
kind of supporter cultures from all over the

00:35:49.460 --> 00:35:54.000
world with drums and stadiums, chance, um, scarf

00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.559
culture, TFOs, all this kind of stuff that that's

00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.239
been, you know, it's, it's really this great,

00:36:00.340 --> 00:36:03.860
like amalgamation, this really great hodgepodge

00:36:03.860 --> 00:36:08.019
of everything from out, out, out in, you know,

00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:11.420
worldwide soccer culture. But this is the, this

00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:14.739
is definitely one of the parts that, hasn't really

00:36:14.739 --> 00:36:17.840
seemed to be present compared to other american

00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.519
sports in this country and it's definitely one

00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.659
that you know we don't want to be propagated

00:36:24.659 --> 00:36:28.340
whatsoever you know it's it's one of the nice

00:36:28.340 --> 00:36:30.500
things about going to a soccer game in america

00:36:30.500 --> 00:36:33.639
you you know it's a family friendly atmosphere

00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:37.179
you know yeah you don't get excited you know

00:36:37.179 --> 00:36:39.599
things get heated you know especially you know

00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.519
you're going to a rivalry match I watched a video

00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:49.699
of, I think it was either Toronto fans going

00:36:49.699 --> 00:36:53.360
into CF Montreal Stadium, right? And everybody's

00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:56.000
shouting at each other and flipping each other

00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.679
off and all that. That's great, as long as there's

00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.320
no physical harm done to anybody. I love the

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.960
vitriol. That's awesome. That's what makes rivalries

00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.639
so great. You expect that at a Timbers game,

00:37:07.739 --> 00:37:11.320
something like that. You know, when it when it

00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.019
devolves into violence, I mean, it's horrible.

00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:19.039
And if you let if you let players, you know,

00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.579
the people that we're all here to see get violent

00:37:22.579 --> 00:37:27.119
outside of the confines of the game and not get

00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.300
punished properly for it, then that's a problem.

00:37:31.460 --> 00:37:34.980
Because, again, you have a lot of not just kids,

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.860
but just everybody. I mean, everybody's watching

00:37:37.860 --> 00:37:41.340
a lot of people who are. impressionable are going

00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:44.699
to be influenced by that. And if, especially

00:37:44.699 --> 00:37:46.900
if there's a lack of consequences, bringing it

00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:50.340
back to like, Oh, you know, how, how, how does

00:37:50.340 --> 00:37:53.320
MLS deal with Suarez and Busquets throwing his,

00:37:53.420 --> 00:37:56.860
you know, really weak jab, right? Like it's not

00:37:56.860 --> 00:38:01.179
even a punch, but still he tried. I mean, he

00:38:01.179 --> 00:38:05.099
tried, he really tried his hardest. And by that

00:38:05.099 --> 00:38:07.860
token, like, like, even though it's in defense,

00:38:07.980 --> 00:38:11.090
like, I mean, Reagan should face consequences

00:38:11.090 --> 00:38:13.610
for what he did. And I think he had every right

00:38:13.610 --> 00:38:16.070
to do what he did by throwing the guy to the

00:38:16.070 --> 00:38:18.289
ground, right? Because they didn't start it.

00:38:18.349 --> 00:38:21.670
They finished it. Yeah, John Bell. Was that Bell

00:38:21.670 --> 00:38:24.909
that suplexed somebody? Bell was doing his Seahawk

00:38:24.909 --> 00:38:31.730
trial. He's ready for Sunday. There should be

00:38:31.730 --> 00:38:34.469
consequences. Here's what's going to happen.

00:38:35.130 --> 00:38:37.190
MLS is going to suspend Gene Ramirez for the

00:38:37.190 --> 00:38:41.090
rest of the season. They're going to ban Steven

00:38:41.090 --> 00:38:44.510
for life. And then what they're going to do is

00:38:44.510 --> 00:38:47.170
they're going to take Reagan's ACL and they're

00:38:47.170 --> 00:38:49.469
going to tell John Bill that he can't play for

00:38:49.469 --> 00:38:53.710
two years. And then they're going to deduct 10

00:38:53.710 --> 00:38:57.969
points from Everton. I've seen enough. Deduct

00:38:57.969 --> 00:39:00.769
10 points from Everton. And then they're going

00:39:00.769 --> 00:39:04.989
to take away the trophy. Knew who will get suspended,

00:39:05.210 --> 00:39:08.389
deduct 10 points from Everton. And, yeah, they

00:39:08.389 --> 00:39:10.170
may just take away the trophy from us and give

00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:12.989
it to Miami, right? I mean, that's who it was

00:39:12.989 --> 00:39:14.989
supposed to go to in the first place. That was

00:39:14.989 --> 00:39:17.590
the plan. They already had Miami's name in grade.

00:39:17.670 --> 00:39:19.449
Did they really? I heard that. I don't know.

00:39:20.369 --> 00:39:22.809
That's been going around, and I don't know if

00:39:22.809 --> 00:39:26.050
I believe that. They were ready for it. No, it's

00:39:26.050 --> 00:39:33.000
AI. They got the 23 when they won in 23. That's

00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.760
awesome. So the game's over. It was one of the

00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:38.760
greatest games that I've watched as a Sounder

00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.159
fan. As an admittedly young Sounder fan, it was

00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:42.679
still one of the greatest games. And listening

00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.659
to other people talk about it, too, I get the

00:39:44.659 --> 00:39:46.460
feeling that a lot of people feel like it was

00:39:46.460 --> 00:39:48.960
one of the best Senators games of all time. You

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.599
know, we made Miami crash out. They're still

00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.579
probably in their mansions back there crying.

00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.719
And good for them. Oh, maybe they got some golden

00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.519
tissues or something. The game's over, but the

00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.500
year is not. So we do have more games coming

00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:07.519
up this year in MLS play. When's our next game

00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.760
coming up? Wait, before we move on, there was

00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.679
another crash out. Oh, was there? By the Barca

00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.780
boys. Messi crashed out, I want to say, two days

00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:20.699
on Wednesday against Venezuela. Oh, did he really?

00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.739
Yeah, once they got back out of the dressing

00:40:23.739 --> 00:40:25.239
room, he went straight at one of the players.

00:40:26.860 --> 00:40:29.159
And I put a comment. I said, oh, the guy must

00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:34.880
have told them what happened in Seattle. Oh,

00:40:35.139 --> 00:40:38.300
that's good. Yeah, so I mean, I think we're still

00:40:38.300 --> 00:40:40.760
in their heads. We got to charge them for rent.

00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:47.119
Oh, man. Well, in this economy, absolutely. Jesus.

00:40:49.869 --> 00:40:52.610
Yeah, I'm looking at it now. One of the headlines,

00:40:52.929 --> 00:40:55.369
Lionel Messi in tears before scoring goal in

00:40:55.369 --> 00:40:58.349
emotional Argentina versus Venezuela. Yeah, look

00:40:58.349 --> 00:41:00.610
at that. There's Messi still crying a couple

00:41:00.610 --> 00:41:07.269
days later as he plays Venezuela. Man, boy, they

00:41:07.269 --> 00:41:10.590
really had a tough job beating a baseball nation.

00:41:12.170 --> 00:41:18.300
What a monumental task. Good for him. Good for

00:41:18.300 --> 00:41:20.699
Messi. Yeah, good for him. I'm just glad we're

00:41:20.699 --> 00:41:26.360
finally at the Miami's a bad guy arc. It took

00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.059
a little bit, but we got there. Sounded like

00:41:28.059 --> 00:41:31.000
the start of the downfall. Look at us. We're

00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.840
always setting the trend. Hey, just like my Cowboys

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.139
ending Tom Brady's career there in the playoffs

00:41:36.139 --> 00:41:38.940
at Tampa Bay. Maybe this will be the beginning

00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:41.960
of the end of Messi and the MLS, and we can move

00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:45.099
on. Dak took one for the team against the Eagles,

00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.889
too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, look, hey, a league

00:41:48.889 --> 00:41:52.469
knows how to handle somebody spitting. Yeah.

00:41:52.570 --> 00:41:55.369
Did he get did he get fined or not? No, he got

00:41:55.369 --> 00:41:57.730
he got I don't know. I have not seen the long

00:41:57.730 --> 00:41:59.389
term punishment, but he was removed from the

00:41:59.389 --> 00:42:00.750
field immediately. And that was kind of one of

00:42:00.750 --> 00:42:03.750
my questions about this whole thing is these

00:42:03.750 --> 00:42:06.570
these guys, you know, they threw punches and

00:42:06.570 --> 00:42:10.110
then then spit on our head of security and then

00:42:10.110 --> 00:42:12.559
just got to go and get there. second place medal

00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.380
like nothing had happened like and i was just

00:42:14.380 --> 00:42:16.480
like beside myself like yeah why are they still

00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.380
on the field why why weren't they removed from

00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:22.820
the film i think and uh it's hard because it

00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:25.300
didn't technically happen during the game that's

00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:29.460
kind of where it's in the gray area so i feel

00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:32.739
like i feel like that that it almost like makes

00:42:32.739 --> 00:42:36.659
it even worse right because because in the in

00:42:36.659 --> 00:42:41.190
the confines of uh of you know professional athletic

00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:44.349
competition right when when violence happens

00:42:44.349 --> 00:42:48.710
like that you can kind of chalk it up to oh blah

00:42:48.710 --> 00:42:51.949
blah heat of the moment the referee is directly

00:42:51.949 --> 00:42:55.690
responsible for discipline you would imagine

00:42:55.690 --> 00:42:58.949
some kind of uh repercussions either in the form

00:42:58.949 --> 00:43:01.309
of talking to yellow card red card blah blah

00:43:01.309 --> 00:43:06.150
in the nfl i you know when you see when you see

00:43:06.150 --> 00:43:09.460
like when you see like the spitting incident

00:43:09.460 --> 00:43:14.000
when Jalen Carter spat on Dak Prescott, you know,

00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.559
before the game even started. Right. Because

00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.139
it wasn't in the, you know, the confines of play.

00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:25.840
They, they're say what you want about the NFL

00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.860
because they're not above criticism at all, but

00:43:30.860 --> 00:43:34.570
it feels like. If people were throwing punches

00:43:34.570 --> 00:43:38.809
after a game, you know, there would be in the

00:43:38.809 --> 00:43:42.230
NFL, there would be immediate and swift consequences

00:43:42.230 --> 00:43:45.690
towards the involved parties, right? Yeah, you

00:43:45.690 --> 00:43:47.710
wouldn't just go get your second place medal,

00:43:47.869 --> 00:43:51.210
right? Yeah, exactly. Like that wouldn't happen.

00:43:51.269 --> 00:43:53.170
Well, they don't have second place medals in

00:43:53.170 --> 00:43:55.769
the NFL. But, you know, I get your point. Your

00:43:55.769 --> 00:44:00.230
first or last in the NFL. Yeah, exactly. It's

00:44:00.230 --> 00:44:03.349
really interesting to see how two different professional

00:44:03.349 --> 00:44:08.250
sports leagues in this country handle similar

00:44:08.250 --> 00:44:11.809
situations. I just wonder what would have happened

00:44:11.809 --> 00:44:17.110
if it had been one of our players spitting on

00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:22.590
them. Oh, exactly. And nobody's even asked that

00:44:22.590 --> 00:44:25.110
question. You're the first person I've heard

00:44:25.110 --> 00:44:27.719
ask that question. Exactly. A hundred percent.

00:44:27.780 --> 00:44:30.599
Like what if somebody spat on messy, right? Oh,

00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.440
they would've got shot. Right. Like you still,

00:44:34.460 --> 00:44:36.900
I I'm still on online, you know, and I'm watching

00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:39.559
Miami inter Miami posted some highlights of,

00:44:39.579 --> 00:44:41.599
of messy taking some corner kicks in that game.

00:44:41.619 --> 00:44:43.659
And then, you know, you go read the comments

00:44:43.659 --> 00:44:45.820
and nothing was about, everything was about messy

00:44:45.820 --> 00:44:47.820
the goat. And I'm trying to figure out why, why

00:44:47.820 --> 00:44:51.000
to me, he's messy the ghost in this game. So

00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.679
that's a, you know, not messy the goat. I mean,

00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:56.260
that was his only highlight, was taking those

00:44:56.260 --> 00:44:59.239
corners. Did they put the shot that he missed?

00:44:59.659 --> 00:45:04.800
No, no. Well, we all know who the real GOAT is.

00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:10.079
Paul Rothrock. Yeah, Brian said so. So, speaking

00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:13.579
of Brian and Paul Rothrock and the GOAT, we have

00:45:13.579 --> 00:45:18.840
LA Galaxy next, right? Yes, next Saturday. Next

00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:20.980
Saturday, okay. We got to play them again? A

00:45:20.980 --> 00:45:23.900
week from now. How many times do we have to beat

00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:26.360
them? Oh, and then after that, we play Miami

00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.960
on Tuesday. We have Miami coming up. Short rest.

00:45:30.019 --> 00:45:32.179
So you think that we're going to go throw starters

00:45:32.179 --> 00:45:34.900
at LA Galaxy, especially since it's a Western

00:45:34.900 --> 00:45:37.579
Conference team and the points mean a little

00:45:37.579 --> 00:45:39.420
bit more in the West. Well, I guess not since

00:45:39.420 --> 00:45:43.239
LA Galaxy is, what, last in the West? They're

00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.659
one of the worst teams in the league this year.

00:45:45.739 --> 00:45:49.230
Got a CONCACAF berth. I think... What should

00:45:49.230 --> 00:45:54.030
happen in a perfect world is MLS suspends all

00:45:54.030 --> 00:45:56.909
of the culpable parties from inner Miami. Right.

00:45:56.969 --> 00:46:02.250
And, you know, in fairness, you know, deals out

00:46:02.250 --> 00:46:05.769
consequences for Jackson Reagan, John Bell. Right.

00:46:05.849 --> 00:46:08.429
Because that's, you know, even though they were

00:46:08.429 --> 00:46:10.969
right to do what they did, in my opinion, there

00:46:10.969 --> 00:46:14.260
still should be consequences for violence. And

00:46:14.260 --> 00:46:18.139
what happens then is you have a very neutered

00:46:18.139 --> 00:46:22.340
inner Miami team that we go and play down in

00:46:22.340 --> 00:46:25.099
Fort Lauderdale. They don't even play in Miami.

00:46:25.699 --> 00:46:30.780
And we should literally just roll out our starting

00:46:30.780 --> 00:46:34.900
Tacoma Defiance lineup. Like, seriously. I know

00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:36.840
that they probably won't and can't because of

00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.760
roster rules, but in a perfect world, that's

00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:44.720
what you should do. And that's my opinion. So

00:46:44.720 --> 00:46:50.219
as much fun as I would like to see Tacoma Defiance

00:46:50.219 --> 00:46:54.519
beat a neutered Miami team, looking forward,

00:46:54.699 --> 00:46:57.599
we're sitting fourth in the West right now with

00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:03.539
LAFC points and hands right behind us. The season's

00:47:03.539 --> 00:47:06.519
not over with, and I think we still need to rack

00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.780
up some points here. And I think we can. I mean,

00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.719
there's no indication that we're going to, now

00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.719
that we won a cup, that we're just going to stop,

00:47:13.900 --> 00:47:17.940
right? There's no indication of that. No, yeah.

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.099
Even the boys came out and said, we're worried

00:47:20.099 --> 00:47:23.199
about the next one. We're worried about the next

00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:27.900
game. And I think it's, one, I think it's kind

00:47:27.900 --> 00:47:29.539
of fun that we get to go back and we get to play.

00:47:29.659 --> 00:47:31.719
You know, it's just going to create a lot of

00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:33.280
narratives whenever we get to go back and we

00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.380
play Inter -Miami, hopefully without some of

00:47:36.380 --> 00:47:39.340
their worst offenders on the field, if MLS is

00:47:39.340 --> 00:47:43.500
just. But I'm excited for that game. Especially

00:47:43.500 --> 00:47:46.159
since the stakes are low. We lose that game,

00:47:46.300 --> 00:47:48.119
we're going to be like, yeah, we got the trophy,

00:47:48.260 --> 00:47:50.599
right? You want to see the trophy that we got

00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.260
from y 'all? And then if we win that game, it's

00:47:53.260 --> 00:47:57.679
just proof that we own the vault culture, right?

00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.480
They tried to buy their way championships, and

00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.739
it hasn't worked except for that one Leagues

00:48:03.739 --> 00:48:07.159
Cup that they won. They did win the Shield, too.

00:48:07.739 --> 00:48:10.980
But, you know, the shield wasn't super important

00:48:10.980 --> 00:48:13.679
until they won it. And then the MLS is like,

00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.659
oh, well, that's how you get into CONCACAF. Look

00:48:15.659 --> 00:48:22.559
at that. Yeah, right. I think this kind of leads

00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.599
me into a question for you guys. Because the

00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:31.659
only season that the Sounders have won two trophies

00:48:31.659 --> 00:48:37.719
in the same year while being in MLS. was back

00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:42.679
in 2014 when we won both the Supporter Shield

00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:46.960
and the U .S. Open Cup. And it's the only time

00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.860
it's happened for the Sounders. And I'm asking

00:48:49.860 --> 00:48:54.559
you guys, if we were to win MLS Cup this season,

00:48:54.800 --> 00:49:02.820
would the League's Cup plus MLS Cup be a more

00:49:02.820 --> 00:49:06.469
impressive double? than the Supporters' Shield

00:49:06.469 --> 00:49:09.449
and the U .S. Open Cup, in your guys' opinion?

00:49:10.489 --> 00:49:13.909
I think it would, just based on where the league

00:49:13.909 --> 00:49:16.150
is now compared to where it was 10 years ago.

00:49:16.849 --> 00:49:20.010
10 years ago, we didn't have... I don't know.

00:49:20.409 --> 00:49:24.989
You could tell me yes or no, but did we have

00:49:24.989 --> 00:49:27.289
as many big names in the league now as we did

00:49:27.289 --> 00:49:32.010
10 years ago? And with the new teams, we have,

00:49:32.070 --> 00:49:34.030
what, 30 teams in the league now? I don't know

00:49:34.030 --> 00:49:36.829
how many teams were there back then. So it's

00:49:36.829 --> 00:49:43.280
just harder to win an MLS Cup now. Yeah, I'm

00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.099
going to give it a resounding yes, absolutely.

00:49:45.300 --> 00:49:49.199
One, because I'm paying attention and so it matters

00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.820
to me. Two, the law of recency, recency bias.

00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.219
Yeah, it's happening now. So I'm feeling the

00:49:55.219 --> 00:50:00.239
emotions now. But also, I think, you know, we're

00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:01.920
playing soccer, right? We call it soccer. We're

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.840
playing soccer, but we're in America and we as

00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:09.059
Americans look at the... end of the season trophy

00:50:09.059 --> 00:50:13.800
as the apex of what, what it is to win. Right.

00:50:13.860 --> 00:50:16.860
And so the, the winner of MLS, the MLS champion

00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:21.019
is the winner of the MLS cup because, and that's,

00:50:21.019 --> 00:50:22.639
that's the way we do it. That's one of the things

00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.699
that we held onto. We keep the supporter shield

00:50:24.699 --> 00:50:28.019
because you know, it, it does measure really,

00:50:28.099 --> 00:50:29.539
if you think about it measures how well you did

00:50:29.539 --> 00:50:32.239
throughout the whole season. But we're not playing

00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:36.909
every team. We're not playing every team. So

00:50:36.909 --> 00:50:39.309
it's not an apples to oranges comparison to the

00:50:39.309 --> 00:50:42.250
Premier League's championship because they play

00:50:42.250 --> 00:50:45.570
every team twice. So it's a little bit different

00:50:45.570 --> 00:50:47.730
than us. And so I think, yeah, getting two trophies

00:50:47.730 --> 00:50:51.769
out with it being the League's Cup and the MLS

00:50:51.769 --> 00:50:57.650
Cup would be... probably one of the best Sounders

00:50:57.650 --> 00:50:59.469
years, if not the best Sounders years we've ever

00:50:59.469 --> 00:51:01.650
had. And then with who we do it with too, right?

00:51:01.710 --> 00:51:04.090
This, this is a team made up of Seattleites.

00:51:04.130 --> 00:51:06.989
This is a team made up of our neighbors and that

00:51:06.989 --> 00:51:09.110
should really get Sounders fans excited that

00:51:09.110 --> 00:51:12.590
this, this team represents the heart of Seattle,

00:51:12.750 --> 00:51:17.570
right? Seattle is a really cool city once. I

00:51:17.570 --> 00:51:21.289
think Seattle is a really cool city. I was going

00:51:21.289 --> 00:51:23.309
to say something mean about tech bros, but then

00:51:23.309 --> 00:51:25.409
I stopped myself. So that's what that little

00:51:25.409 --> 00:51:28.349
vocal pause was. Don't you work in tech? Yeah,

00:51:28.369 --> 00:51:30.250
I work in tech still. That doesn't mean that

00:51:30.250 --> 00:51:34.210
– Well, that means he knows what he's talking

00:51:34.210 --> 00:51:38.170
about. That's friendly fire. Yeah. That's tech

00:51:38.170 --> 00:51:43.210
on tech violence. Yeah. That's another podcast

00:51:43.210 --> 00:51:45.050
about how many rich people are in Seattle and

00:51:45.050 --> 00:51:46.750
how many homeless people are in Seattle. But

00:51:46.750 --> 00:51:49.869
that's – Um, that's a different podcast. I'll

00:51:49.869 --> 00:51:53.130
save that one for my, my other podcast. That's

00:51:53.130 --> 00:51:55.750
after hours. Yeah, that's, that's the after hours

00:51:55.750 --> 00:51:59.510
podcast. Okay. So we, um, so we're, we're approaching

00:51:59.510 --> 00:52:02.230
an hour of us talking. So I got, I got one more

00:52:02.230 --> 00:52:04.369
question before we get out of here then. Uh,

00:52:04.510 --> 00:52:07.369
and it's kind of in your same vein. And so this

00:52:07.369 --> 00:52:12.250
is a, uh, say something happens. Say we go to

00:52:12.250 --> 00:52:17.260
LA and we, we throw up a stinker, right? Say

00:52:17.260 --> 00:52:19.000
we go to Miami, we throw up a sticker, we start

00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.900
piling up some losses. Maybe we don't lose every

00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:25.019
game, but we end up squeaking into the playoffs

00:52:25.019 --> 00:52:27.340
and getting kicked out of the first round. Would

00:52:27.340 --> 00:52:29.579
you consider this season a success with winning

00:52:29.579 --> 00:52:36.920
League's Cup? I would have to say yes to a degree,

00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:42.340
just because we're a club that wants to compete

00:52:42.340 --> 00:52:45.519
for trophies. And this team, the way that it's

00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.340
been playing, for them to just fall off a cliff

00:52:47.340 --> 00:52:50.019
and go through another hangover like they did

00:52:50.019 --> 00:52:56.320
in 2022, I just, it would be a disappointment

00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:58.179
not only to the fans but to the players themselves

00:52:58.179 --> 00:53:01.800
because they know what they're capable of. Like,

00:53:01.820 --> 00:53:03.139
how are you going to go from beating the best

00:53:03.139 --> 00:53:05.659
player in the world to getting kicked out of

00:53:05.659 --> 00:53:10.440
the first round of the playoffs? It's just, personally

00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.570
me, I would be disappointed. and the season like

00:53:13.570 --> 00:53:15.869
yeah leaks cup i'm gonna remember it as one of

00:53:15.869 --> 00:53:18.670
the highs but to just crash out of the playoffs

00:53:18.670 --> 00:53:22.329
in the first round it would just you know that

00:53:22.329 --> 00:53:24.210
would be a very very low point of the season

00:53:24.210 --> 00:53:27.110
so let me rephrase the question for you then

00:53:27.110 --> 00:53:31.730
we uh finish out the rest of the year good but

00:53:31.730 --> 00:53:34.329
we still fall out of fifth. I think there's scenarios

00:53:34.329 --> 00:53:37.170
where we can still have a good remainder of the

00:53:37.170 --> 00:53:39.789
year, but we still finish at fifth with LAFC

00:53:39.789 --> 00:53:43.730
behind us, right? And so then we, for that best

00:53:43.730 --> 00:53:46.230
of three, we have two games in Minnesota, one

00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:49.789
game in Seattle. Are we beating Minnesota? We

00:53:49.789 --> 00:53:51.010
would know because if we're at the fifth seed,

00:53:51.070 --> 00:53:53.610
we play LA, I think. Oh, you think we'd play

00:53:53.610 --> 00:53:56.130
LA? Yeah, we play LAFC because I seen a graphic

00:53:56.130 --> 00:53:58.769
earlier because we're basically switched. It's

00:53:58.769 --> 00:54:00.610
flip -flop and we play them in the first round.

00:54:00.989 --> 00:54:03.329
But I think they have enough games in hand that

00:54:03.329 --> 00:54:05.090
they could end up third, right? And so there's

00:54:05.090 --> 00:54:07.269
a scenario where Minnesota's fourth and we're

00:54:07.269 --> 00:54:11.650
fifth, I believe. I mean, if we play Minnesota,

00:54:11.889 --> 00:54:16.309
I like our chances in a best -of -three. I'm

00:54:16.309 --> 00:54:20.449
sure we're going to be able to beat the bunker.

00:54:21.030 --> 00:54:24.949
We'll have Morris back, and the way that these

00:54:24.949 --> 00:54:27.769
guys are playing, I don't know if Minnesota's

00:54:27.769 --> 00:54:31.599
style of play can actually... win an MLS Cup.

00:54:35.059 --> 00:54:40.960
Who went and beat them at home? Colorado went

00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:42.820
and beat them at home the week before we went.

00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.840
They're beatable. It's not like they're unbeatable.

00:54:47.340 --> 00:54:50.480
They looked much better against Colorado than

00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.539
they did against us. It just so happens they

00:54:52.539 --> 00:54:56.940
got an amazing shot. we just couldn't get the

00:54:56.940 --> 00:54:58.559
ball to go in, even though we had a lot of shots

00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.059
to target. Cedar, what about you? We're out the

00:55:01.059 --> 00:55:03.079
first round of the playoffs. Is this season still

00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:11.000
a success? Man, first round, I mean, I think

00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:13.840
I'd, I mean, obviously I'd be disappointed, but

00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:17.480
I think, I think we've now shown that we are,

00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:24.449
I think we've shown that we're probably, capable

00:55:24.449 --> 00:55:27.530
of being the best team in MLS just based on our

00:55:27.530 --> 00:55:32.670
play even though the results lead up to you know

00:55:32.670 --> 00:55:36.230
in the totality of the season we aren't on paper

00:55:36.230 --> 00:55:39.789
the best team right it's not like we're gonna

00:55:39.789 --> 00:55:44.590
win supporter shield right or you know get the

00:55:44.590 --> 00:55:47.550
one seed realistically at all but I think we

00:55:47.550 --> 00:55:50.840
are gonna make the playoffs And I think if we

00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:54.639
crash out of the playoffs in the first round,

00:55:54.739 --> 00:55:59.059
I think it's going to leave everybody feeling

00:55:59.059 --> 00:56:03.639
like there was so much left on the table, even

00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:07.800
with all of the injuries we've had, suspensions,

00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.579
all this kind of stuff. We've really tested the

00:56:11.579 --> 00:56:15.099
depths of this team, and we won a trophy with

00:56:15.099 --> 00:56:20.579
that, which is incredible. But I think, you know,

00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:24.360
the League's Cup is a competition that kind of

00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:29.079
appears out of thin air every year, right? And

00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:31.559
then it kind of vanishes, right? And we won it

00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:35.599
and we made it. I think we gave to that competition

00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:40.159
kind of the best energy that it may receive for

00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:43.219
a long time based on the circumstantial factors

00:56:43.219 --> 00:56:46.900
of us hosting, us making it. it being against

00:56:46.900 --> 00:56:49.980
messy packing the house. I mean, is there a better

00:56:49.980 --> 00:56:52.559
atmosphere in major league soccer than a packed

00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:58.300
Lumen field? I don't think so. So we kind of

00:56:58.300 --> 00:57:00.820
gave it all the juice that we could, and that's

00:57:00.820 --> 00:57:02.940
amazing. And that's going to be like you guys

00:57:02.940 --> 00:57:04.800
are saying, I mean, that's going to be a great

00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.519
memory. One that we're going to be, you know,

00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:11.079
we're hardly going to forget for the rest of

00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:15.239
our lives. Right. But I do think that given that,

00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.880
the main prize every MLS season is MLS Cup. If

00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:24.440
we don't make a genuine, concerted, real push

00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:27.079
to it, I mean, I think it's honestly, we need

00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:33.780
to make it to MLS Cup and then see how that game

00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:38.199
plays out. I mean, and if we don't get over that

00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.420
hump, I'm going to be disappointed. And maybe

00:57:40.420 --> 00:57:44.679
you can point fingers at... Maybe not signing

00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.559
somebody who could have helped us in the stretch

00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:53.699
towards the playoffs from the summer. Maybe it's

00:57:53.699 --> 00:57:58.780
Brian Schmetzer. Maybe his tactics are off. Maybe

00:57:58.780 --> 00:58:01.019
it's the players not caring. Whatever it might

00:58:01.019 --> 00:58:05.320
be that eventually takes us out if that happens.

00:58:05.699 --> 00:58:09.380
Or maybe we just get beat by a better team. I

00:58:09.380 --> 00:58:12.159
don't think that there's a team capable of being

00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.460
truly better than we are at this point. I'm going

00:58:15.460 --> 00:58:18.579
to be super disappointed. And I think that as

00:58:18.579 --> 00:58:22.820
a whole, the season will be, it'll be again,

00:58:22.900 --> 00:58:25.239
another kind of failure, not a fake. I mean,

00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:27.679
this is so hard to say like success failure.

00:58:28.059 --> 00:58:30.860
It'll just be gravely disappointing, but I, I

00:58:30.860 --> 00:58:33.139
don't think it'll be like, Oh, okay. Now we got

00:58:33.139 --> 00:58:35.519
to fire everybody or anything like that. It'll

00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:39.340
just be. extremely disappointing which you know

00:58:39.340 --> 00:58:43.079
as a seattle fan that's you get used to it but

00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.619
you know that season of what f's what could have

00:58:46.619 --> 00:58:49.460
been i mean but the sounders are you know that's

00:58:49.460 --> 00:58:52.960
our that's seattle's golden child right now you

00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.360
know for men's professional sports in this country

00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:59.559
so i think that you know yeah i'll i'll be disappointed

00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.659
and i will feel like there was something left

00:59:01.659 --> 00:59:04.119
on the table there that's a good answer i think

00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:07.369
i'd be disappointed too but uh Getting the trophy

00:59:07.369 --> 00:59:09.070
in the way that we did it is going to keep me

00:59:09.070 --> 00:59:15.269
high for a long time. Yes. So with that, any

00:59:15.269 --> 00:59:17.849
last words, any parting words that y 'all got?

00:59:18.949 --> 00:59:22.849
I got to go feed Cameron, so I need to go let

00:59:22.849 --> 00:59:25.909
him out of his basement. You need to get him

00:59:25.909 --> 00:59:31.710
some chicken noodle soup. All right. Well, everybody

00:59:31.710 --> 00:59:34.409
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00:59:35.130 --> 00:59:37.730
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00:59:37.769 --> 00:59:39.889
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00:59:39.909 --> 00:59:42.269
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00:59:42.369 --> 00:59:45.369
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00:59:45.369 --> 00:59:47.690
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00:59:47.690 --> 00:59:49.650
Seattle sports going on in there. So come check

00:59:49.650 --> 00:59:51.750
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00:59:51.750 --> 00:59:55.010
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01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:44.059
MLS team of all time? The Seattle Sounders are

01:00:44.059 --> 01:00:46.119
both unequipped and they're arguably the best

01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:47.659
MLS team of all time.