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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say he's cheating! And welcome to another

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episode of Sounders Scuttlebutt. I'm one of your

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hosts, Aaron Lingley, and I am joined by one

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other host today, different from our last episode.

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We got the drunk one and the sleepy one for this

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one. Hello, Nicholas Biela. Hey, that's me. I

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will try to stay awake this time, and I will

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not be drinking alcohol. I do have a beverage,

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though, so why don't we get to that? Yeah, you

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start with your boring one. Oh, yeah. Still sounds

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good. Oh, that had a little hiss at the end.

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It did. It did. Sassy. We are going to be drinking

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a tropical cherry sparkling water. I got too

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much going on tonight, so I can't. I'm going

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to be getting like 90 minutes of sleep. What

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brand is that? Good and Gather. So I think that's

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a Target brand. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know. I'm

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having also a sparkling water, but I have a whiskey

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on the side, but that doesn't make any noise

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because it's in a neat glass right now. Ooh,

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you know, that's a nice echo. It has a nice little

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echo that reverberates through my ears. Very

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nice. All right. What are you drinking? Yeah.

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So that's just a lime ginger to go with my bourbon.

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So one bourbon, one scotch, and one beer. One

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beer. Okay, moving on. A lot of stuff to talk

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about. This has been a busy week in Sounderland.

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Of course, we are still buzzing after the League's

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Cup victory. We are still rocking and rolling

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on that. Thank you to everyone for listening

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to our last episode. you know just hit the wall

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i that that's a live look at me hitting a wall

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and hitting a wall hard you actually fell asleep

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recording it was awesome i think i think i think

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i fell asleep in the middle of a sentence i i

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it was very unprofessional it's funny well we're

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very well actually we're getting a little bit

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of money but um it's funny because you just your

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general cadence sometimes you have pauses sometimes

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you close your eyes and think just because you

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like to really process your words before they

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come out of your mouth so we're both like looking

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at you like this is normal and then nothing happened

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and we're like hmm did he freeze no we see him

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nodding off it was great and then and then i

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of course um i felt I got a little drunker than

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I thought. I was perfectly fine in the beginning,

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but I had been drinking whiskey during the match

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and beer, and then I had some Elysians. It's

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a final episode. Yeah, it was not the final episode,

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a final episode. We'll see how the stats do on

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this one. That might have been our final episode.

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But no, it was definitely a brown liquor special

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for sure. Brown liquor special. Okay, so. Things

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that have happened since then. Obviously, the

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post -game fracas, the brouhaha, the Donnybrook,

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as one might say, the ruckus. Could you describe

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the ruckus? It was some suspensions had been

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handed down. And so it started first with the

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League's Cup disciplinary committee. They had

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to send their suspensions down first. And they

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suspended Luis Suarez for six games of League's

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Cup. Sergio Busquets for two games. Tomas Saviles

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for three games. And then the Sounders, Stephen

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Lainhart, one of the Bash brothers from the Alan

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Gordon. No, not Alan Gordon. Who was it? It was

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Stephen Lainhart. And who was his partner? Was

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it Alan Gordon? I think it was Alan Gordon. It

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might have been Alan Gordon. Some of those San

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Jose earthquake teams. Steven Lenhardt's the

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one that stomped on Sprining's hand. Yes. Steven

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Lenhardt's on our team? He is our mental health

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coach. No. Yeah. I won't allow it. Funny enough.

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Interestingly enough. Okay, so a couple things

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about that. First off, he's getting a five -match

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suspension, trying to separate Cody Baker in

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that brouhaha. He threw some punches. So first

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off, we'll just address the Stephen Leonard thing.

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Players love him. The big thing about Stephen

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Leonard is that he has an interesting story.

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His father committed suicide during his playing

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days. And Steven's playing days or just Yeah,

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during his Yeah, during his playing days. And,

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and he got his master's degree or PhD in sports

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psychology, something like that. Oh, fuck. Well,

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hire him. He sounds like he's well qualified.

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And that's kind of an awesome story. With that

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said, though. thinking about it like if you're

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gonna have anyone on your team throwing punches

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you want someone who's not going to cost your

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team major um major on the field issues so so

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steven steven leonard and cody baker well no

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i feel like well i feel like um You know, I'm

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a hockey guy. So like the enforcers, the tough

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guys, they're always the ones that stand up for

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their team. You know, the ones that will will

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will sacrifice themselves for the good of the

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rest. And, you know, that is kind of what I saw

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to Stephen Leonard. Anyway, so that's the league's

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cup. Now, granted, so that would be sounds like

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you're about to clarify what I'm about to say

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is that obviously would be carried over to next

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year. Hmm. Maybe even later next year, because

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the world cup, there's a good chance the league's

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cup will not happen next year. Cool. So Suarez

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gets are really pissed off about that. I'm sure.

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Yeah. About not, not playing in games, you know,

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two years down the road. Yeah. Yeah. Big team.

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But MLS, once that happened, they came down with

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their suspensions and. I named four names in

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the last one, and this time only two names. So

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Luis Suarez suspended three league games for

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spitting. Although I love how they just keep

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talking about spitting only and not, you know,

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the choking and not the stepping on Gene's foot

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so he couldn't get away when he spit. That's

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just absolutely despicable. But nevertheless,

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three games for Luis Suarez, so he will miss

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the Sounders versus Inter -Miami rematch. But

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then Stephen Leonard had his credentials revoked

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for the remainder of 2025. So he is not allowed

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to be on the field, in the locker rooms, anywhere

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where the MLS credentials are needed on game

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day. Thought a lot of people are kind of pushing

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back and like, oh, what the hell, Stephen Leonard?

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That's such a shocking punishment. First off,

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do you have any initial thoughts on that? One,

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it's I don't I can't believe I didn't know Stephen

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Leonard was on our staff. But honestly, I think

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that seems a bit harsh, I guess. But I think

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you are held to a different standard. That's

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certainly a huge part of it, yep. And one, his

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role. But two, I don't think they're classifying

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as you are the mental health coach, but I think

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you're part of the leadership of this franchise,

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which is a reflection of our league. So being

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held to a different standard. Doesn't sound like

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he can't be in the stadium, but he's going to

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be watching from a box or joining ECS. Yeah,

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really? Well, as much as we like to welcome people

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into our section, I'm not sure I'm going to see

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that. I'd be surprised if I see that. That'd

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be interesting. players you know if you're an

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admin if you're a coach you're going to be held

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to a higher standard than a player for your actions

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on the field so so that's just gonna and i think

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there's some grace to the fact that all their

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adrenaline's pumping right they're they're playing

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a sport and they're being emotional and reactive

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because they're not Sitting on the sideline,

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taking it all in. That's what I think as well.

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And the Sounders got fined for misappropriation

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of credentials. What does that mean? Well, what

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I think... Did the staff member have one of those

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fake glasses with the rubber nose on the front?

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Well, Stephen Leonard, he had no business being

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on the field. So he didn't have a reason to be

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on the sideline. Even at the end of the match?

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When did he come down? I guess this doesn't really

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matter. So for example, when I go to the field,

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when I've been on the field, I have to have like

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these temporary game day credentials. I don't

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have like the, the permanent badges, you know,

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Lenhart did have, you know, full access. So I

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think that's kind of the issue is normally no

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one would bat an eye on it, but when, you know,

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he gets involved in a fight, they're going to

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have to come down hard on it. I just don't, I

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want to see the footage specific. Everything

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I was hyper -focused on was Lennart, or not Lennart,

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sorry, Suarez. Oh, yeah, the sounder, the sounder

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staffer with the white hat wearing the sounder's

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hat, that's Lennart. You know who he reminds

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me of? Side note, sorry. Yeah. Martin Gore. From

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Depeche Mode? Of course. Of course. Steven Lennart,

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at least playing days, Steven Lennart with the

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blonde curly locks. Just reminds me of Martin

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Gore. Anyway, carry on. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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I just can't get enough, so please keep going.

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You know, with that in mind, one of the things

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about the whole thing is the suspension is pretty

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consistent. Leagues Cup suspended Lionel Messi's

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bodyguard from being on the field for similar

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reasons. He put his hands on another player at

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the end of the game. Earlier in the League's

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Cup, I think at the first game of the League's

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Cup, and he was suspended for the rest of the

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tournament and banned from being on the field.

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Okay. So Leonard's out for the season. Cool.

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It was just them two? Yeah, from game day. It

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was just Suarez and Leonard. It was fallout from

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MLS side of things for the rest of the season.

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Okay. And that's three matches. Who are they

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playing? Well, us. Who gives a fuck? Miami's

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not in our conference. Whatever. Who gives a

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fuck? They mean nothing to me. With that in mind,

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I wanted to also talk. I was crunching some numbers

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because you know me. I'm a data guy. I like to

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screw around with numbers. Data. I was curious

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just how dominating were the sounders against

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little messy so i'm going to use foot mob as

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my source so foot mob always puts out player

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ratings after every game based on you know the

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the data that's shown so that's that's my source

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here i went back a full calendar year and that's

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going to be 50 games Exactly 50 games, including

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Argentina, League's Cup, Champions League, everything.

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What a nice sample size. I know, right? So crunching

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the numbers, his previous 50 games, including

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with Argentina, Messi, and I took out games that,

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there were actually like 56 games, but I took

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out games where he didn't appear. for more than

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35 minutes i wanted to make sure because when

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you're doing ratings you got to give them a chance

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to actually be on the field you know yeah so

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that was kind of my methodology how many of those

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50 games do you think leonel messi fared worse

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than how he did against the sounders in the league's

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cup final and i'll and i'll tell you this for

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the sounders his rating was a 6 .1 So going back

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as far back as September 2024, 50 matches, how

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many matches did Lionel Messi play more than

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35 minutes and get a rating lower than 6 .1?

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I'm going to say that there has been no more

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than four other times. However, I want to say

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this is the worst. This is the first. he's ever

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scored that low but i'm going to say there's

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been at least three or four other shots it's

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a handful so the answer is two right in the middle

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of my two game right right damn it um one was

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actually uh last month uh against cincinnati

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where he got a 5 .8 against cincinnati and then

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last september against new york city fc he got

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a 5 .9 against the sounders he had a 6 .1 every

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single match since then outside of those three

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matches he scored higher than a 6 .1 most of

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them were in the sevens eights and nines i mean

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it was really kind of shocking to look at all

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that but To me, that really highlights just how

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dominant Obed Vargas and Christian Roldan were

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in the middle of the pitch. I was just going

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to say that because that would be a nice little

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bridge to the next storyline. But yeah, that's

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been a very consistent duo, and it's clear that

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that's their best spot on the field. Obviously,

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we knew that Obed, that's his position with JP.

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rolled on has been christian has been playing

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in two or two other positions for the last couple

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years so i've always wanted him back there he

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needs to be in the middle he's yeah you know

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a captain and it's just so steady eddie well

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it's been so interesting because for the long

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for i guess it would have been around 2021 2020

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2021 when we were playing with three men in the

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back and jp was up uh, was just getting started

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with us. Uh, Christian. Yeah, I did feel like

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was, was really good in this as a center defensive

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mid. And I thought that was his best position,

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but then going up to the 2024 world cup lead

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up, he was getting a lot of winger minutes because

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they were trying to get him into the national

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team and, you know, and trying to, and it worked,

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he, he made it to the world cup, but I kind of

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felt, you know, it was, it, wasn't the best use

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of his talents. But again, we had, you know,

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Danny Leyva and Josh Atencio and, and, uh, obviously

00:17:32.619 --> 00:17:35.420
Lodero was feeling that role back there, sitting

00:17:35.420 --> 00:17:39.359
back at times, you know, so, you know, we, and

00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:45.740
then even Albert Rusnak. Um, so yeah, so now

00:17:45.740 --> 00:17:48.079
that he's kind of settled into this role, I think

00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:51.220
it's really allowing him to shine and it's just

00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:53.279
really nice to see, but that also leads us to

00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:57.740
today. Christian Roldan got called up to the

00:17:57.740 --> 00:18:00.779
U .S. Men's National Team camp, international

00:18:00.779 --> 00:18:04.119
break, the squad this international break. He

00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:08.619
got about 30 minutes in action against Korea.

00:18:08.940 --> 00:18:11.579
Korea was already up to nothing. He didn't allow

00:18:11.579 --> 00:18:16.799
any goals in his time in mop -up duty. But today

00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:22.099
he got the start against Japan in Columbus. And

00:18:22.099 --> 00:18:26.299
the U .S. national team won 2 -0. I watched the

00:18:26.299 --> 00:18:29.720
game. I thought Christian did a good job. But

00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:36.480
more importantly, he went the full 90. One, don't

00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:40.880
read U .S. national team's Twitter. It's toxic

00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:44.680
as hell. It's funny to read the player grades

00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:49.779
from some of those sources. You know, one calling

00:18:49.779 --> 00:18:54.099
Christian the worst player on the field, which

00:18:54.099 --> 00:18:57.680
is really interesting when, you know, we won

00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:00.259
2 -0 and he had the most touches of anyone on

00:19:00.259 --> 00:19:03.000
the team. You know, but worst player on the field,

00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.819
you know, as that center point of the possession.

00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.960
So, you know, it's just tough to not, you know,

00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:14.740
are you watching the game or are you just looking

00:19:14.740 --> 00:19:20.269
at the stats? But with that in mind. Or are they

00:19:20.269 --> 00:19:27.109
seeing green? Well, you know. In this case, part

00:19:27.109 --> 00:19:29.789
of it can be seeing green. Part of it can be,

00:19:29.849 --> 00:19:36.089
oh, MLS player. You know, it just annoys me to

00:19:36.089 --> 00:19:40.950
no end. But I thought he did really well in the

00:19:40.950 --> 00:19:48.279
game today. Looked good. I thought. um the u

00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.059
.s team looked great uh at times they got two

00:19:52.059 --> 00:19:56.259
really well -taken goals and you know he did

00:19:56.259 --> 00:19:59.960
what he needed to do he basically it was a workmanlike

00:19:59.960 --> 00:20:05.220
performance um again using foot mob as our our

00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:08.339
source of truth here just for consistency um

00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:12.480
they had him at a 7 .3 uh on the field right

00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:16.720
well in in the field that's right around the

00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:19.720
back line of Blackman Richards and Reem had a

00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:26.000
7 .1, 7 .2 and a 7 .5. His band of four in the

00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:31.240
midfield, Freeman, Tyler Adams and Arfsten. Arfsten

00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:35.980
had an 8 .1. He also had an assist. Adams had

00:20:35.980 --> 00:20:41.059
a 6 .9 and Freeman had a 6 .3. So, you know,

00:20:41.059 --> 00:20:44.059
I think. The assist is going to definitely bump

00:20:44.059 --> 00:20:48.160
up Arfston's rating. But yeah, Roldan did what

00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.599
he needed to do. Very pleased about that. I hope

00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:55.759
it gives him more call -ups. Yeah, World Cup's

00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:58.079
obviously being in Seattle next year, so that

00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:00.240
would be phenomenal if he was able to make it

00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:06.440
on the team. But also, I'm not passionate about

00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:09.779
the U .S. Men's National Team. I watched every

00:21:09.779 --> 00:21:12.940
match of every world cup and of the Olympics.

00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.759
Well, I guess not the, not so much the Olympics,

00:21:15.819 --> 00:21:22.640
but is now, should I start trying to follow them

00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.059
through this winter fall winter leading up to

00:21:26.059 --> 00:21:29.519
the, I want to, I want to be excited about the

00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:31.539
men's national team again. Like I was in 2016.

00:21:32.099 --> 00:21:39.259
Well, here's the thing. One. When was Rio? 16,

00:21:39.460 --> 00:21:45.599
18. We're not talking about 2018. When was Rio?

00:21:47.859 --> 00:21:52.099
When Brazil was 2014. 14. Okay. That's the year

00:21:52.099 --> 00:21:55.119
that was like most. When Yedlin came up, we had

00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:59.180
Dempsey, Yedlin, Eddie Jones. I watched the Belgium

00:21:59.180 --> 00:22:02.460
match at Wamuu. Oh, God. Yeah, that was so much

00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:04.339
fun. Even though we lost, it was still a fun

00:22:04.339 --> 00:22:09.819
match. With that in mind, that leads us to our

00:22:09.819 --> 00:22:12.539
next talking point. No, you just have to say,

00:22:12.660 --> 00:22:14.740
should I start following the men's national team

00:22:14.740 --> 00:22:16.279
again? Should I start being excited about them?

00:22:16.700 --> 00:22:19.819
Yeah. A decade later. Yeah, why not? Because

00:22:19.819 --> 00:22:22.599
the Sounders are getting consistently good now.

00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:27.180
They're kind of boring. You need more chaos in

00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:30.000
your life? No. But anyway, what were you going

00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:37.269
to say? In T -minus 11 hours and 20 minutes,

00:22:37.509 --> 00:22:43.710
T -minus 11 hours and 20 minutes, you can sign

00:22:43.710 --> 00:22:48.170
up to get on the wait list, or not the wait list,

00:22:48.230 --> 00:22:52.170
you can get on the lottery to buy World Cup tickets.

00:22:53.190 --> 00:23:01.190
So, from tomorrow at 8 a .m. All the way until

00:23:01.190 --> 00:23:08.410
I believe the 29th or well, the 29th is when

00:23:08.410 --> 00:23:12.369
you will be when you will be selected or not

00:23:12.369 --> 00:23:19.230
selected. So you OK, you have until the 19th.

00:23:19.250 --> 00:23:22.589
OK, there we go. You have 10 days to sign up.

00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:25.480
You have to have a Visa card to sign up for this

00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.559
first wave. If you don't have a Visa card, there

00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.420
will be other opportunities for you to sign up.

00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.319
But this first wave, because Visa is the sponsored

00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:39.460
partner of FIFA, there you go. You have to go

00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:45.640
to FIFA's website. You need a FIFA ID. If you're

00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.390
selected, you'll be notified on the 29th. You'll

00:23:49.390 --> 00:23:51.970
have a date and time window where you can buy

00:23:51.970 --> 00:23:55.849
tickets. Just because you're selected does not

00:23:55.849 --> 00:23:58.309
mean you will actually get tickets. You'll just

00:23:58.309 --> 00:24:01.509
be one of the people that is eligible to try.

00:24:02.430 --> 00:24:09.690
So that is getting closer and closer. It's now

00:24:09.690 --> 00:24:14.529
18 minutes and 11 hours. Yeah, I know. Being

00:24:14.529 --> 00:24:17.650
that it is the 9th of September. And I still

00:24:17.650 --> 00:24:20.670
haven't heard anything about my, I already have

00:24:20.670 --> 00:24:24.049
the right to buy two tickets to any game of my

00:24:24.049 --> 00:24:27.509
choice with the exception of the final for the,

00:24:27.609 --> 00:24:30.230
because during the club world cup, they had a

00:24:30.230 --> 00:24:32.710
promotion where if you bought two tickets to

00:24:32.710 --> 00:24:37.589
any two club world cup games, you would get a

00:24:37.589 --> 00:24:40.769
guaranteed right to buy a ticket to the world

00:24:40.769 --> 00:24:45.470
cup. So theoretically I have my right to buy.

00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:51.980
the usa game here in seattle nice um but of course

00:24:51.980 --> 00:24:54.180
fifa is gonna fifa and they haven't been releasing

00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:56.940
any details on that so who the hell knows how

00:24:56.940 --> 00:25:00.819
that's gonna work well i'm hoping for the best

00:25:00.819 --> 00:25:03.339
for you that's pretty exciting though yeah because

00:25:03.339 --> 00:25:04.839
if i feel like i'm gonna see the us national

00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:06.720
team in the world cup in my hometown this is

00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.619
great yep i mean that that's the thing is if

00:25:09.619 --> 00:25:11.619
i've already seen enough sounders finals and

00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:15.450
stuff so let's let's finish your bingo card Well,

00:25:15.470 --> 00:25:18.430
I went to all nine games in Vancouver for the

00:25:18.430 --> 00:25:21.670
Women's World Cup in 2015, watched the U .S.

00:25:21.670 --> 00:25:24.390
women win the World Cup. It was amazing. But

00:25:24.390 --> 00:25:28.890
I've never seen the Men's World Cup. I've been

00:25:28.890 --> 00:25:32.109
to Copa America, obviously here in Seattle, saw

00:25:32.109 --> 00:25:35.710
Messi play, saw the U .S. play. Great times,

00:25:35.910 --> 00:25:40.009
but never the World Cup. So definitely a big

00:25:40.009 --> 00:25:50.039
bucket list. Bucket list item, yeah. So it's

00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:55.140
been a good week for soccer. I think I mentioned

00:25:55.140 --> 00:26:01.799
to you, just thinking about bucket lists, getting

00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:06.440
to play with the League's Cup trophy. So that

00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.119
was fun. Looks like you're drinking out of it,

00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:12.039
pretending to. well that's that's certainly what

00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.279
it looks like either i'm really good at photoshopping

00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:18.660
or yeah uh so that was a good week okay so that's

00:26:18.660 --> 00:26:20.400
what i got for sounder scuttlebutt you guys think

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:21.920
you guys think scuttlebutt you wanted to talk

00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.339
about anything else that we haven't buried in

00:26:24.339 --> 00:26:30.579
my 85 degree hole here in san diego is that hypothermia

00:26:30.579 --> 00:26:32.880
maybe you should get that looked at it's fun

00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.160
it is it's just funny to see the locals react

00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:41.829
to both heat and cold here it's insane But yeah,

00:26:41.990 --> 00:26:44.769
no, I don't have anything. This is my outlet

00:26:44.769 --> 00:26:48.230
and this is also my resource. And that's why

00:26:48.230 --> 00:26:51.210
I love doing it. Do we have anything? Have you

00:26:51.210 --> 00:26:53.829
reviewed Discord? We didn't tell anyone we were

00:26:53.829 --> 00:26:56.170
recording, did we? I made a mention of it, but

00:26:56.170 --> 00:26:59.890
I don't think we really, I didn't ask for, I

00:26:59.890 --> 00:27:01.769
didn't ask for anything in the mail. We got to

00:27:01.769 --> 00:27:03.230
get better. We got to get better at that. We

00:27:03.230 --> 00:27:06.130
got to get better at that. Although also good

00:27:06.130 --> 00:27:09.930
reminder to join our Discord. Yeah. So with that

00:27:09.930 --> 00:27:19.910
in mind, we do have the winners of the League's

00:27:19.910 --> 00:27:22.650
Cup Final Prediction Challenge. The Prediction

00:27:22.650 --> 00:27:28.329
Challenge. The Prediction Challenge. So we had

00:27:28.329 --> 00:27:33.410
one, two, three, four, five people get four points.

00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:39.450
And some familiar faces. We had Dan the Bastard.

00:27:40.349 --> 00:27:42.809
Dan, Dan going with some optimism and it paying

00:27:42.809 --> 00:27:45.829
off big for him today. Good job, Dan. We had

00:27:45.829 --> 00:27:54.329
Jesus M509, Cedar, Patrick GC, and my very own

00:27:54.329 --> 00:27:57.309
daughter, Roma. So once again, Roma has been

00:27:57.309 --> 00:28:01.589
killing it. Is she actually picking? Yeah. Yeah.

00:28:01.650 --> 00:28:03.589
So what will happen is I'll put in my predictions.

00:28:04.269 --> 00:28:11.210
And then I'll reload it, put in her name on it,

00:28:11.250 --> 00:28:13.470
and then I'll ask her, do you think the Sounders

00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:15.589
will win, lose, or draw? She'll give me the answer.

00:28:16.390 --> 00:28:19.490
Then I'll ask her, you know, how many goals will

00:28:19.490 --> 00:28:21.109
the Sounders score? How many goals will the other

00:28:21.109 --> 00:28:25.970
teams score? And I need to say, there have been

00:28:25.970 --> 00:28:28.970
times where she said seven. There have been times

00:28:28.970 --> 00:28:31.109
where she said knew who would score, and she

00:28:31.109 --> 00:28:34.220
was right. There have been, like, she has been,

00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.579
she's won what, like four times in the last month?

00:28:37.579 --> 00:28:39.660
When she said seven is when we scored seven.

00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.940
I have to double check on that. I think, no.

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.039
That would be, I would quit my job. No, no, no.

00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.500
For that game, she got seven goals right. She

00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:56.339
said five to two. But she did say knew who would

00:28:56.339 --> 00:29:00.440
score first in that game. That's insane. Um,

00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.539
but she also won that game because no one else

00:29:02.539 --> 00:29:07.180
had, uh, some of those numbers, uh, against Cruz

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:12.119
Azul. But, uh, but yeah, so like, uh, I've only

00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.700
been having her do the prediction challenge for

00:29:15.700 --> 00:29:18.720
like the last month and she's, yeah, she's been,

00:29:18.740 --> 00:29:21.920
she's been killing it. So I think she's won at

00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.819
least four times that I can remember. So good

00:29:24.819 --> 00:29:29.069
job Roma. who's also now in kindergarten. I know,

00:29:29.130 --> 00:29:31.450
dude. It's weird. If you think you're smarter

00:29:31.450 --> 00:29:34.789
than a kindergartner, join the prediction challenge.

00:29:34.990 --> 00:29:38.430
Win some prizes. We've got some great prizes,

00:29:38.450 --> 00:29:44.509
including a team -signed Bruce Lee jersey. I've

00:29:44.509 --> 00:29:46.670
never heard you say what the prizes are going

00:29:46.670 --> 00:29:49.450
to be. Oh, well, give me one second here. Let

00:29:49.450 --> 00:29:51.230
me just pull that up. Why don't you just kind

00:29:51.230 --> 00:29:54.170
of talk about some other potential prizes that

00:29:54.170 --> 00:29:58.059
you might have? I don't have anything. Oh, come

00:29:58.059 --> 00:30:02.460
on. Make something up, you know. Two round trip

00:30:02.460 --> 00:30:06.279
tickets to the MLS Cup final, wherever that may

00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:10.359
be. No lodging. Not going to provide any of that.

00:30:10.460 --> 00:30:12.460
We don't have that kind of funding, but we'll

00:30:12.460 --> 00:30:19.460
definitely provide the flights. Just please come

00:30:19.460 --> 00:30:24.690
back. I can't think of anything. Wow. Yeah. I

00:30:24.690 --> 00:30:29.990
said two round -trip tickets, but no logic. Oh,

00:30:29.990 --> 00:30:32.609
no. It's real. It's a real jersey. Yeah. There

00:30:32.609 --> 00:30:38.269
it is in all its glory. That's legit. Okay. Yeah.

00:30:40.009 --> 00:30:44.230
So I got that. That'll be one of the prizes.

00:30:45.190 --> 00:30:48.089
And I'm sure we'll come up with some other stuff.

00:30:49.130 --> 00:30:53.599
Honestly, the other stuff. What my thought is,

00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:56.400
some of the other stuff will be depending on

00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.299
who is chosen as the winner. Connect with the

00:31:00.299 --> 00:31:03.319
winner and pick something that they'll like.

00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.900
The team -signed jersey, that's an easy one.

00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:09.400
Everyone's going to be happy with that. But for

00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.240
some of the other prizes, it'll be, okay, here

00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.279
are some options. What would you like out of

00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.319
these options? I still want Brian's notebook.

00:31:19.520 --> 00:31:23.519
I want, I want really, I want pages of his notes

00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.779
all laid out and then sealed as a coffee table,

00:31:27.859 --> 00:31:30.519
you know? So you just sit there and just kind

00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:31.880
of be like, Oh, what game was that? Oh, that

00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:34.400
was the final. You know, then that'd be cool.

00:31:34.859 --> 00:31:38.819
That's fun. That's fun. Anyway, my birthday is

00:31:38.819 --> 00:31:42.799
coming up, Brian. In two months. Oh my God. Two

00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.180
months to the day. How about that? How about

00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:51.630
that? Actually, that's right because you and

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:56.069
I are like two days apart. Yep. We had a lot

00:31:56.069 --> 00:31:58.650
of people in November thanks to Valentine's Day

00:31:58.650 --> 00:32:04.170
fun. No, that week it's you and then me and then

00:32:04.170 --> 00:32:06.630
Roma all within like four days of each other.

00:32:06.789 --> 00:32:09.609
Gracie's the 25th. My mom's the 6th. My grandpa

00:32:09.609 --> 00:32:12.710
is the 9th. My grandmother was the 6th. My dog

00:32:12.710 --> 00:32:18.420
is the 5th. All of November. The gestation is

00:32:18.420 --> 00:32:22.559
still the same for dogs? I don't want to think

00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.119
about that. No, I don't know. Unless there's

00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:31.460
a Valentine's Day. Dog sex. No, we're not doing

00:32:31.460 --> 00:32:37.160
that. Anyway, we should get to the second portion

00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.140
of the show, which is a little bit more game

00:32:39.140 --> 00:32:45.079
match set point. Match focused. We are playing...

00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.599
Miami in a week from today. Actually one last

00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.660
little bit of scuttlebutt news that just came

00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:57.599
out yesterday is that the Sounders have sent

00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:02.900
Cody Baker speaking of Cody Baker has sent Cody

00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:12.680
Baker and Trevion Sousa on loan for the rest

00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.400
of the season. So Cody Baker, I believe, is going

00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.980
to Sacramento, if I remember correctly. And Trevion

00:33:19.980 --> 00:33:25.180
Sousa is going to maybe Tulsa. I will confirm

00:33:25.180 --> 00:33:29.880
that. Also, Georgie Minungu got sub minutes today

00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:35.000
for Burkina Faso against Egypt in a 0 -0 draw.

00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:39.980
Burkina is in position as of right now, eight

00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:43.039
games into a 10 -game World Cup qualifying cycle.

00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:47.559
They're in position for a play -in opportunity

00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.940
to qualify for the World Cup because Egypt's

00:33:49.940 --> 00:33:54.180
leading that group. Wow. And yes, Sacramento

00:33:54.180 --> 00:33:58.359
Republic for Cody Baker and FC Tulsa in the USL

00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:02.039
Championship for both teams for Trivian Sousa.

00:34:04.589 --> 00:34:07.609
all right so it'll be good you know because they're

00:34:07.609 --> 00:34:10.610
they're both making playoff pushes uh and the

00:34:10.610 --> 00:34:14.230
coma defiance are not really doing so hot so

00:34:14.230 --> 00:34:16.730
it'll give them both a chance to to step up their

00:34:16.730 --> 00:34:19.269
competition and really build off of especially

00:34:19.269 --> 00:34:22.070
cody baker he had a really good game a few weeks

00:34:22.070 --> 00:34:26.349
ago for the sounders i think against skc and

00:34:26.349 --> 00:34:29.530
uh and i remember that and i was like man i haven't

00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:31.510
seen a lot of them lately which is because we

00:34:31.510 --> 00:34:34.070
think we're starting a year yeah yeah What, a

00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:36.590
year? Yeah. I could have sworn there was like

00:34:36.590 --> 00:34:39.070
early season matches. He made an appearance,

00:34:39.090 --> 00:34:42.690
but not a start. Wow. Well, I wouldn't, I guess.

00:34:42.909 --> 00:34:45.030
Yeah. I wasn't really thinking start. I was thinking

00:34:45.030 --> 00:34:48.329
just seeing him play at all, but yeah. Okay.

00:34:48.429 --> 00:34:53.469
Well, good for him. And yeah. All right. So let's

00:34:53.469 --> 00:34:54.750
get to the second half of the show. We'll talk

00:34:54.750 --> 00:34:56.789
a little bit about the upcoming match. No, you

00:34:56.789 --> 00:34:59.269
want to, we're kind of at a hard limit here for

00:34:59.269 --> 00:35:04.190
the time anyway. So let's get to that. You mentioned

00:35:04.190 --> 00:35:06.210
playoff push. Let's talk about the playoff push.

00:35:07.989 --> 00:35:09.909
Sounds like a plan. Why don't we go to break

00:35:09.909 --> 00:35:14.710
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-M. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

00:37:11.659 --> 00:37:17.880
And we're back. Anyway. Oh, yeah. I'm actually

00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.320
watching the show, The Studio. Oh, how do you

00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.980
like that? It's pretty good, actually. It kind

00:37:23.980 --> 00:37:28.940
of reminds me of, did you like... God, what was

00:37:28.940 --> 00:37:32.760
the one with the Pied Piper? Silicon Valley.

00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.940
Oh, yeah. Obviously, that's kind of like they

00:37:35.940 --> 00:37:38.840
brick and mortar, they started something. This

00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.219
is... movie studio but it just it's the story

00:37:43.219 --> 00:37:45.519
the way it's written is just very similar to

00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:47.900
that it's really funny i like it anyway they

00:37:47.900 --> 00:37:49.800
do a kool -aid movie in it that's kind of the

00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.760
central theme of their project throughout the

00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.320
first season is they're trying to come up with

00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.500
a kool -aid movie oh yeah anyway i digress so

00:37:58.500 --> 00:38:01.679
soccer soccer soccer we're playing la galaxy

00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.139
um when is that saturday saturday at 5 30 here

00:38:06.139 --> 00:38:15.889
at lumen field Saturday the 13th. Currently the

00:38:15.889 --> 00:38:20.170
Wooden Spoon leading LA Galaxy, but they have

00:38:20.170 --> 00:38:22.590
punched their ticket to Champions League next

00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:25.469
season. Such a weird season. Due to a victory

00:38:25.469 --> 00:38:29.309
against Orlando City in the third place game.

00:38:30.170 --> 00:38:31.789
Interesting. Yeah, it reminds me of the year

00:38:31.789 --> 00:38:35.349
a few years ago when DC United won the Open Cup

00:38:35.349 --> 00:38:39.820
but won the Wooden Spoon as well. sometimes when

00:38:39.820 --> 00:38:41.539
that's all you have to play for you just put

00:38:41.539 --> 00:38:43.159
all your eggs in one basket that's what made

00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.239
them so dangerous i didn't i was nervous about

00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.380
playing them um the second time yeah and they're

00:38:50.380 --> 00:38:54.820
i mean they are they're bad they're bad but they

00:38:54.820 --> 00:38:58.679
have good moments Yeah, but they do have quality

00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.139
that can show up. Now, I do have some news, though.

00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.960
Gabriel Peck will not be playing in this game

00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.420
because he picked up a yellow card in their last

00:39:07.420 --> 00:39:11.519
game, giving him yellow card suspension. Okay.

00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.599
Yeah, and he picked it up in the 90th minute,

00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.820
too. So, oops. Oh, that is frustrating. It sure

00:39:21.820 --> 00:39:24.900
is. Oh, darn. So we're playing them on Saturday,

00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:30.739
then Miami the following Tuesday. Yeah, we're

00:39:30.739 --> 00:39:33.579
just going in reverse. Everything's happening

00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:35.139
over and over again. I just realized that. We

00:39:35.139 --> 00:39:38.539
played Galaxy, Miami. We're playing Galaxy, then

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:43.639
Miami, Austin, Vancouver. It's just basically

00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:48.070
Groundhog Day all over again. uh hopefully we'll

00:39:48.070 --> 00:39:51.550
get the similar results but yeah so so basically

00:39:51.550 --> 00:39:56.530
our last five matches after tuesday because we

00:39:56.530 --> 00:40:00.989
played um we played miami on tuesday we will

00:40:00.989 --> 00:40:06.150
have played we'll have played the galaxy miami

00:40:06.150 --> 00:40:10.630
galaxy miami in in our last four matches yeah

00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:14.650
and then and then Three matches before that,

00:40:14.730 --> 00:40:17.010
I think we played the Galaxy again. We did. We

00:40:17.010 --> 00:40:22.050
played them. Galaxy, Minnesota, Puebla, Kansas

00:40:22.050 --> 00:40:26.090
City, Galaxy, Miami, Galaxy, Miami. Hey, see,

00:40:26.190 --> 00:40:32.010
we're familiar. We'll have a... Squad, it sounds

00:40:32.010 --> 00:40:35.429
like Albert Roseneck is close to full fitness.

00:40:35.789 --> 00:40:38.730
Danny Mussofsky will be out of his suspension.

00:40:41.050 --> 00:40:47.230
Georgie and Christian Rinaldo will be back from

00:40:47.230 --> 00:40:51.929
national duty. And then we've got Nuhu back from

00:40:51.929 --> 00:40:54.650
his suspension, and he's been playing with Cameroon.

00:40:55.449 --> 00:40:59.800
Yeah, actually, Cameroon. uh lost today i think

00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:06.800
i think um i think knew who started uh double

00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.480
check that they lost one nothing to cape verde

00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.320
um and cameron's in danger of not qualifying

00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.800
for the world cup actually so um but yeah knew

00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.519
who did start in that game and the table right

00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.659
now they're in second place so They are four

00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:27.179
points behind Cape Verde with two games to go,

00:41:27.260 --> 00:41:32.059
and they will need to get some help. They also

00:41:32.059 --> 00:41:36.699
would be qualified for potentially play -in games

00:41:36.699 --> 00:41:42.900
based on that. They're in the same boat as Burkina

00:41:42.900 --> 00:41:48.300
Faso, so right now it sounds like the best second

00:41:48.300 --> 00:41:52.079
-place teams. also qualify like the four best

00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.539
second place teams right now Burkina Faso is

00:41:54.539 --> 00:41:58.019
the fourth best Cameroon is the fifth best but

00:41:58.019 --> 00:42:01.360
they're on the same amount of points so it could

00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.219
come down to one or the other could be out it'll

00:42:04.219 --> 00:42:09.579
be really interesting so we'll see yeah you'll

00:42:09.579 --> 00:42:13.659
have to tell me all about it like if I'm not

00:42:13.659 --> 00:42:16.260
in the men's US men's national team I'm certainly

00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:19.329
not following Burkina Faso No, but this is actually

00:42:19.329 --> 00:42:23.849
a really good point that I was trying to make

00:42:23.849 --> 00:42:26.349
when I was talking to people about World Cup

00:42:26.349 --> 00:42:30.889
tickets. Listen, FIFA is going to try and gouge

00:42:30.889 --> 00:42:33.989
people with prices. It's just going to happen.

00:42:34.030 --> 00:42:35.789
The U .S. game, if you're trying to target the

00:42:35.789 --> 00:42:39.750
U .S. game, just be prepared. My guess is get

00:42:39.750 --> 00:42:42.070
in the door price, even at the cheapest seat,

00:42:42.110 --> 00:42:44.369
is probably going to be about $150. Get in the

00:42:44.369 --> 00:42:47.989
door at best. And that's if you get them. if

00:42:47.989 --> 00:42:49.889
you win the lottery if you're going secondary

00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:52.650
pricing it's just going to be ugly i'm sorry

00:42:52.650 --> 00:42:57.570
it's just going to suck with that said go to

00:42:57.570 --> 00:42:59.929
these kind of matches yeah well that's the thing

00:42:59.929 --> 00:43:02.130
you just want to get to understand yeah where

00:43:02.130 --> 00:43:03.550
they came from yeah if you want to go to a world

00:43:03.550 --> 00:43:06.889
cup game the here are the four teams that are

00:43:06.889 --> 00:43:12.130
currently um but yeah yeah but these are the

00:43:12.130 --> 00:43:17.260
four teams in africa um The teams that are qualifying

00:43:17.260 --> 00:43:20.360
right now, Egypt, Senegal, South Africa, Cape

00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:24.280
Verde, Morocco, Ivory Coast, Algeria, Tunisia,

00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:28.719
and Ghana. Now, the four best second place teams

00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.139
that are qualifying as of right now are Gabon,

00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.639
Madagascar, Congo, and Burkina Faso. Because

00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.480
the World Cup is now 48 teams, some of those

00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.960
teams have never made a World Cup. We are inevitably

00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.860
going to get World Cup games with teams of that

00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:52.860
kind of nature, where you're going to get a team

00:43:52.860 --> 00:43:57.179
like Burkina Faso versus Vietnam or something

00:43:57.179 --> 00:44:03.480
like that. So what I'm getting at is don't overpay

00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:07.800
for World Cup tickets. There will be opportunities

00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.280
for some of these games to drop. I saw it happen

00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.679
here in Seattle for the Copa America Centenario

00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.039
where everyone was excited about seeing Messi

00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.280
or potentially the U .S. They made you buy tickets

00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.679
in a package before they announced which teams

00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:28.619
were coming. Sound familiar? And then when you

00:44:28.619 --> 00:44:33.019
had to buy the whole pack for all the games here

00:44:33.019 --> 00:44:36.099
in Seattle. And obviously we did get Argentina.

00:44:36.420 --> 00:44:38.300
So we did get to see, we did get to see messy

00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:42.119
place. So yay. But we also had to pay for like

00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.659
Peru versus Cuba or Peru versus Haiti. That's

00:44:46.659 --> 00:44:48.480
what it was. Peru versus Haiti. And it's like,

00:44:48.539 --> 00:44:51.900
that was not a marquee game at all. So, I mean,

00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:53.239
that's going to have, you're going to have those

00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:55.139
games and you could have gotten in the door for

00:44:55.139 --> 00:44:59.280
like $10 on resale for that game. So, so just

00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:04.860
be aware that don't. fret now if you get a chance

00:45:04.860 --> 00:45:10.840
uh they have published the matches for the world

00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:16.360
cup they've um uh trying to see if i can look

00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.039
it up real quick they publish the matches and

00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.840
in the matches they just have it as like match

00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:30.780
uh 16 match 32 match 52 match 63 somewhere i

00:45:30.780 --> 00:45:33.579
have to go find it there is a match schedule

00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:38.059
that will say like match 16 is group a three

00:45:38.059 --> 00:45:41.960
versus a four or or something of that nature

00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:48.880
um and so if you can find that you probably want

00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:52.280
to dial in and try and get anyone that's a group

00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.219
one team because that'll be the the argentinas

00:45:56.219 --> 00:46:00.400
and the germanies of the world And I could be

00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:07.320
wrong about that. They may have only posted the

00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:12.980
group, but not the slots within the group. Actually,

00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.320
now that I'm looking at it, that is only that's

00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.139
been posted. Anyways, moving on. We'll have more

00:46:19.139 --> 00:46:22.440
about that as we get closer to the top. I know.

00:46:22.539 --> 00:46:25.280
But we're getting close to that. The presale

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:27.179
starts tomorrow, so we're going to have a lot

00:46:27.179 --> 00:46:29.880
of World Cup coverage over the next six months,

00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:33.059
eight months as we get closer to that. Scuttlebutt,

00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.119
your number one source for World Cup coverage.

00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:41.219
Not really. But moving on, we are talking about

00:46:41.219 --> 00:46:45.960
Saturday's game. No Gabrielle Peck. And are the

00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:51.039
Galaxy going to have any real motivation? Yes.

00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.159
what would their motivation possibly be if you're

00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:59.219
proving to them because if we were any other

00:46:59.219 --> 00:47:03.179
team almost any other team no okay but because

00:47:03.179 --> 00:47:05.820
we just beat them twice and we are the first

00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:09.739
club to win every trophy and we have this you

00:47:09.739 --> 00:47:12.599
know this rivalry and and we've made them look

00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:17.119
silly they they're gonna want to prove something

00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:19.300
yeah you know because this has been a very very

00:47:19.300 --> 00:47:25.889
good year um we are we have one loss in our last

00:47:25.889 --> 00:47:31.250
what 16 games we're averaging 2 .7 goals a game

00:47:31.250 --> 00:47:36.030
we are doing exactly what i have wanted since

00:47:36.030 --> 00:47:39.170
we basically started recording this podcast not

00:47:39.170 --> 00:47:43.289
today like the episode one first iteration it's

00:47:43.289 --> 00:47:46.889
like i've wanted a consistent dominating team

00:47:46.889 --> 00:47:51.190
to just like like being a Seahawks fan in 2013

00:47:51.190 --> 00:47:53.889
and 14. I just want to go in and be like, we're

00:47:53.889 --> 00:47:55.210
going to whoop your ass. This is going to be

00:47:55.210 --> 00:47:58.949
fun. Of course, you'll lose one game out of every

00:47:58.949 --> 00:48:04.010
16, but we're averaging two goals. We know the

00:48:04.010 --> 00:48:10.409
product. We know what our style is now. The fact

00:48:10.409 --> 00:48:14.530
that Rosario is arguably our best striker right

00:48:14.530 --> 00:48:19.110
now, and I love his game with the rest of the

00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.119
team the way he fits is exactly what we need

00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.099
it's been really exciting football to watch not

00:48:25.099 --> 00:48:27.880
just the fact that the results are you know getting

00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.679
us trophies which it's it's actually fun to watch

00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.940
for 90 plus minutes well you know the thing about

00:48:33.940 --> 00:48:38.320
it is that Deversario offers something that none

00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.960
of the other strikers do which is that physicality

00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:45.500
that size that I mean but Jordan has that but

00:48:45.500 --> 00:48:49.269
in a different way His physicality is more speed

00:48:49.269 --> 00:48:54.510
versus like... He has the physical ability to

00:48:54.510 --> 00:48:59.030
be more target. And I think more aggressive physically.

00:48:59.130 --> 00:49:01.570
He's just not an aggressive physical player.

00:49:01.710 --> 00:49:04.269
And he does have the speed and he uses that.

00:49:04.389 --> 00:49:09.630
That's my opinion. But he's ripped. He's 6 '1",

00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:15.489
6 '2". He's ripped. Yeah. It's really interesting.

00:49:16.539 --> 00:49:17.940
I mean, we talked about this at the beginning

00:49:17.940 --> 00:49:20.639
of the season. And spoiler alert, what I wanted

00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.760
to do for today's episode is I wanted to review

00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.679
our preseason predictions. But I would like to

00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.039
have all three of us on when we do that. Yeah,

00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.860
for sure. And with it being an international

00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:33.360
break, I thought it'd be a good time. Just trying

00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:35.659
to get schedules to line up is always a challenge.

00:49:40.269 --> 00:49:42.650
One of the things I know we talked about at the

00:49:42.650 --> 00:49:45.429
beginning of the year, we saw in preseason, we

00:49:45.429 --> 00:49:47.750
are so excited, especially with the Paul Areolas

00:49:47.750 --> 00:49:50.670
and the Jesus Ferreros of the world, on top of

00:49:50.670 --> 00:49:52.690
what Albert Roseneck's been doing previously,

00:49:52.829 --> 00:49:59.730
is that this team can find people in the box.

00:49:59.909 --> 00:50:02.750
This team can pass. We had concerns about who

00:50:02.750 --> 00:50:05.989
was going to score, but we knew this team could

00:50:05.989 --> 00:50:08.550
set people up and put dangerous balls into the

00:50:08.550 --> 00:50:15.809
box. So it doesn't shock me that Danny Mussofsky,

00:50:15.889 --> 00:50:19.889
believe it or not, very well might break the

00:50:19.889 --> 00:50:22.250
all -time Sounders single -season scoring record,

00:50:22.349 --> 00:50:25.570
all competitions. He's only a few goals away.

00:50:25.809 --> 00:50:30.090
Oh, my God, really? It's crazy. What number is

00:50:30.090 --> 00:50:35.130
that? I want to say 19. And he's at 15? He has

00:50:35.130 --> 00:50:38.489
15 all -competition goals. Holy fuck. Okay. Yeah.

00:50:39.210 --> 00:50:41.190
But we talked about it. He kept putting himself

00:50:41.190 --> 00:50:43.329
in dangerous spots, and we have a team that can

00:50:43.329 --> 00:50:47.329
find those spots. And you're seeing Osase's got,

00:50:47.409 --> 00:50:51.030
what, four or five goals all comps already? Danny's

00:50:51.030 --> 00:50:57.590
got 13. I'm pretty sure he's at 15. Oh, wait.

00:50:57.710 --> 00:51:03.550
He has 13 regular season goals? Yeah. Shit. And

00:51:03.550 --> 00:51:05.849
he's got four leagues cut. Oh, wait. Sorry. No.

00:51:05.989 --> 00:51:11.840
I should stop talking. But he also was the only

00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:14.380
one who scored against Cruz Azul in that infamous

00:51:14.380 --> 00:51:21.619
Mexico City game. But yeah, so with this team,

00:51:21.900 --> 00:51:29.340
it's, you know, both of these strikers, Osase

00:51:29.340 --> 00:51:33.610
and Danny, are... putting themselves in dangerous

00:51:33.610 --> 00:51:35.610
positions, and yeah, they've left some on the

00:51:35.610 --> 00:51:39.710
table. They've left some shots off, but they

00:51:39.710 --> 00:51:41.789
keep getting chance after chance, and I just

00:51:41.789 --> 00:51:44.329
totally respect what they're being able to pull

00:51:44.329 --> 00:51:47.650
off, and I'm really happy for them. So what do

00:51:47.650 --> 00:51:54.929
you expect to see against LA Galaxy? I hate to

00:51:54.929 --> 00:51:56.670
say it, but I think they're going to try to disrupt

00:51:56.670 --> 00:52:02.070
the match. They're typically, I feel like they

00:52:02.070 --> 00:52:06.730
want to play their style, but I feel like there's

00:52:06.730 --> 00:52:09.409
going to be a little bit more like a reaction,

00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:11.469
like you were saying, something to prove, but

00:52:11.469 --> 00:52:13.530
I think they're not going to be playing within

00:52:13.530 --> 00:52:15.530
themselves, and I don't think it's going to be

00:52:15.530 --> 00:52:19.789
a very clean match. I have that sense. I think

00:52:19.789 --> 00:52:22.809
we're going to try to play our game. I think

00:52:22.809 --> 00:52:24.909
they're going to try to disrupt that, almost

00:52:24.909 --> 00:52:32.380
in a Burmese -sported KC. kind of way. They've

00:52:32.380 --> 00:52:34.599
tried to beat us at their game and they couldn't

00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.119
multiple times. So I feel like there's going

00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:38.519
to be something drastically different. And I

00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:42.559
hope it's not that way. Well, they did announce

00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.400
that Rosendo Mendoza will be the center ref.

00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.960
Not to give me context on him. He's done League's

00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:58.130
Cup, Open Cup. Yeah, so... I'm not super familiar

00:52:58.130 --> 00:53:02.909
with him, to be honest. One of our LA Galaxy

00:53:02.909 --> 00:53:05.949
colleagues has sent me some information, including

00:53:05.949 --> 00:53:12.090
that he's refereed 11 MLS regular season matches

00:53:12.090 --> 00:53:15.190
with the Sounders. Sounders have had five wins,

00:53:15.309 --> 00:53:18.670
two draws, and four losses. Four wins, one draw,

00:53:18.730 --> 00:53:21.960
one loss at home. It doesn't really mean much

00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.159
to me. His last match with the Sounders was the

00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.679
2 -0 win over Minnesota United last year at home.

00:53:29.139 --> 00:53:34.099
I remember that game. I think there was a penalty

00:53:34.099 --> 00:53:39.659
in that game. But I don't really know too much

00:53:39.659 --> 00:53:42.699
about him. It sounds like he hands out a lot

00:53:42.699 --> 00:53:47.769
of yellow cards. handed out 96 yellow cards this

00:53:47.769 --> 00:53:52.389
season average of five a game wow okay that seems

00:53:52.389 --> 00:53:58.690
really high so uh he's awarded six penalty kicks

00:53:58.690 --> 00:54:03.849
this season so i don't know um we'll see we'll

00:54:03.849 --> 00:54:06.289
see i just want us to keep that momentum going

00:54:06.289 --> 00:54:10.050
i hope i hope we don't have that lees cup hangover

00:54:10.050 --> 00:54:14.190
i hope we don't look ahead to miami And that

00:54:14.190 --> 00:54:17.789
rematch. But I hope we bring our A squad for

00:54:17.789 --> 00:54:20.389
this game. And you know what? Fuck Miami. Give

00:54:20.389 --> 00:54:25.329
them our rotation. And beat them with it. Yeah,

00:54:25.449 --> 00:54:26.869
well, we've already done it at League's Cup.

00:54:27.170 --> 00:54:31.989
We beat them with our B to C squad. Third string

00:54:31.989 --> 00:54:37.469
striker. Second choice left back. Second choice

00:54:37.469 --> 00:54:43.829
10. Yeah. We don't need to, you know. rehash

00:54:43.829 --> 00:54:46.670
that but we're going to because it was fun yeah

00:54:46.670 --> 00:54:50.429
and i and i and if there's going to be a match

00:54:50.429 --> 00:54:54.570
that's going to be in miami too right yeah yeah

00:54:54.570 --> 00:54:56.190
if there's going to be a match that we kind of

00:54:56.190 --> 00:54:59.510
maybe take the midweek the furthest flight you

00:54:59.510 --> 00:55:02.110
can possibly take in the continental united states

00:55:02.110 --> 00:55:07.219
like maybe we've proven our point to them let's

00:55:07.219 --> 00:55:09.579
get in the rhythm of the weekend matches that

00:55:09.579 --> 00:55:11.619
are coming up, right? So it's Galaxy, Austin,

00:55:11.780 --> 00:55:13.920
Vancouver, boom, boom, boom. That Vancouver match

00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.619
is going to be a big one for playoffs. I'd rather

00:55:17.619 --> 00:55:21.360
just, yeah, our main starters should play LA,

00:55:21.500 --> 00:55:25.440
play on the weekend, rotate as necessary, and

00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.559
be juiced up for the following weekend because

00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.019
I don't care about the Miami match. We've proven

00:55:30.019 --> 00:55:33.300
our point. Yeah, we're playing with house money

00:55:33.300 --> 00:55:36.719
at that point. Yeah, and to your point now, right

00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.019
now we're sitting in fourth place, 44 points.

00:55:40.260 --> 00:55:42.940
Third place is Vancouver, same amount of games

00:55:42.940 --> 00:55:48.159
played. They're at 49 points. Minnesota's at

00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:51.980
51, but they have two extra games, and San Diego,

00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:53.800
we're not catching San Diego. They've played

00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.579
two more games is what you mean. Yeah, correct.

00:55:59.449 --> 00:56:02.690
if we were to win our next two games, we would

00:56:02.690 --> 00:56:05.130
be one point behind Minnesota. You say we were

00:56:05.130 --> 00:56:07.869
not going to catch San Diego. They have to play

00:56:07.869 --> 00:56:10.210
two more games than us. They're up by 12 points.

00:56:10.309 --> 00:56:12.530
That's a six point difference. If we win our

00:56:12.530 --> 00:56:15.710
two games in hand, there's only a handful of

00:56:15.710 --> 00:56:17.550
games. There's only a handful of games left,

00:56:17.650 --> 00:56:19.829
but that is, but they, they haven't shown any

00:56:19.829 --> 00:56:22.670
signs of slowing down. I feel like that's a,

00:56:22.750 --> 00:56:25.130
what do I need to do? I'm down here. Tell me

00:56:25.130 --> 00:56:28.809
what to do. Okay. I can find their houses. I

00:56:28.809 --> 00:56:33.670
can't publicly say that. But with that in mind,

00:56:33.690 --> 00:56:37.550
and behind us, we have LAFC directly behind us.

00:56:38.949 --> 00:56:41.289
Three points down, but they have one game in

00:56:41.289 --> 00:56:46.150
hand on us. Austin, three points down, but we

00:56:46.150 --> 00:56:49.130
have a game in hand on them. Portland. I feel

00:56:49.130 --> 00:56:51.369
bad for completely skipping over Austin, and

00:56:51.369 --> 00:56:53.550
they are in the playoff race. I'm just so used

00:56:53.550 --> 00:56:58.079
to them not being in the conversation. Yeah,

00:56:58.099 --> 00:56:59.800
so we're going to have a busy September. We've

00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.380
got one, two, three, four more matches in September.

00:57:07.619 --> 00:57:10.440
Two of them at home this weekend and then at

00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.920
the end of the month against Vancouver. Then,

00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.460
yeah, so we've got Galaxy, Inter -Miami, Austin,

00:57:17.699 --> 00:57:21.300
Vancouver, Portland, Salt Lake, and New York

00:57:21.300 --> 00:57:25.139
City FC. The Cascadia Cup is still on the table,

00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.880
so we've got a chance to win another trophy there.

00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:33.500
Man, I want to be home right now. A Vancouver

00:57:33.500 --> 00:57:37.440
followed by Portland in one week. All at home.

00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:47.280
I know. I know. So right now we are, um, we do

00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.519
need to win both of our games. Uh, the one against

00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:52.880
Vancouver, the one against Portland, because

00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:55.940
we are currently, uh, we're currently in second

00:57:55.940 --> 00:58:04.320
for Cascadia cup, uh, with, um, uh, Vancouver's

00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:09.159
Vancouver's one against both of us. So, and we

00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.389
have to be Vancouver. Yeah, and we drew Portland.

00:58:12.530 --> 00:58:16.289
So we need to win out any result in anything

00:58:16.289 --> 00:58:19.789
less than a win or if Vancouver beats Portland

00:58:19.789 --> 00:58:22.809
or draws against Portland and they win the Cascadia

00:58:22.809 --> 00:58:25.130
Cup. Well, if there's any time to have the momentum

00:58:25.130 --> 00:58:29.070
to... Oh, I'm sorry. Let me scratch that. Vancouver

00:58:29.070 --> 00:58:36.349
wins. If we drop any points or Vancouver wins,

00:58:36.590 --> 00:58:42.150
then they win the Cascadia Cup. Which we would

00:58:42.150 --> 00:58:44.690
be dropping points if we lost to them. Yeah,

00:58:44.730 --> 00:58:46.329
but they also played Portland one more time.

00:58:46.869 --> 00:58:50.989
Oh, so they have any wins. So we would need to

00:58:50.989 --> 00:58:54.190
be Vancouver and Portland beat Vancouver or draw.

00:58:54.369 --> 00:58:57.789
Yeah, both Seattle and Portland lost to Vancouver

00:58:57.789 --> 00:59:04.150
and we drew each other. Would that count as a

00:59:04.150 --> 00:59:10.420
treble if we won the MLS Cup? No. Okay. No, because

00:59:10.420 --> 00:59:14.800
we've done that before. 2014, we won the Cascadia

00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:19.340
Cup, the Supporters Shield, and the U .S. Open

00:59:19.340 --> 00:59:27.139
Cup. Anyway. And I believe the Heritage Cup as

00:59:27.139 --> 00:59:30.119
well. But, you know, we've won that as well.

00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:34.940
Hey, you know, it's been good. I've gotten to

00:59:34.940 --> 00:59:37.079
hold the Heritage Cup. I've gotten to hold the

00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:41.960
League's Cup this year. So bring me more trophies.

00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:44.340
I want all the trophies. Let's go. I've held

00:59:44.340 --> 00:59:50.699
MLS Cup and Champions League or Champions Cup.

00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.400
But I have not. US Open Cup I haven't touched.

00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:56.659
Touched the glass that separated me in those

00:59:56.659 --> 01:00:00.500
four when they were at the 90. Is that still

01:00:00.500 --> 01:00:03.059
around? Yeah. They didn't move everything to

01:00:03.059 --> 01:00:07.320
Long Eggers? The trophies aren't in there all

01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.179
the time. But the 90 is still a thing? The 90

01:00:10.179 --> 01:00:13.699
is still a thing. What is it now that no one

01:00:13.699 --> 01:00:17.179
has offices in Pioneer Square? Yeah, so usually

01:00:17.179 --> 01:00:20.340
the downstairs is being used for meeting and

01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:23.579
gathering spaces before games, especially with

01:00:23.579 --> 01:00:26.920
VIPs and a lot of things. Like a hosted event

01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.880
space pre -match. It's a better commute than...

01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:36.320
and then rent yeah okay well let's save our predictions

01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.400
prediction i think we should well if you want

01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.659
to go through them it's fine but we do a prediction

01:00:40.659 --> 01:00:45.219
thing so like no no but so we you know because

01:00:45.219 --> 01:00:46.980
we always kind of kind of feel it out right now

01:00:46.980 --> 01:00:48.780
and then obviously we change based on what we

01:00:48.780 --> 01:00:51.739
see in the lineup and and and go from there so

01:00:51.739 --> 01:00:55.659
i guess my question to you is oh By the way,

01:00:55.699 --> 01:00:58.420
just forthcoming down the stretch, we may lose

01:00:58.420 --> 01:01:03.659
Obed Vargas to World Cup duty. The under 20 World

01:01:03.659 --> 01:01:08.480
Cup is coming up. And that may be the best chance

01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:13.280
he gets for showing well to be able to play for

01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:16.940
Mexico next year. When is that? It's coming up.

01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.500
He'd miss about five games towards the end of

01:01:19.500 --> 01:01:23.659
the regular season. Give Danny Leyva a chance

01:01:23.659 --> 01:01:28.579
to shine, you know? And not only Danny Leyva,

01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:33.760
but let's be honest, not Stu Hawkins, that's

01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:38.019
our center mid, but... Taylor Hawkins. No, he's

01:01:38.019 --> 01:01:42.460
not going to be much use as a... Stephen Hawkins?

01:01:44.739 --> 01:01:50.539
Even less useful than Taylor Hawkins. How's it

01:01:50.539 --> 01:01:54.119
feel? I'm done. I can't believe you set me up

01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:57.599
for that, but I walked into it. You almost walked

01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:59.079
into it, turned around, said, you know what?

01:01:59.099 --> 01:02:00.579
Fuck it. Turned back around and walked right

01:02:00.579 --> 01:02:04.639
through it. I came back. I came back for another

01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:08.460
bite. I was trying to say Snyder Brunel. Snyder

01:02:08.460 --> 01:02:10.860
Brunel has shown really well. Dee Snyder Brunel.

01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.179
No, Dee Snyder, we're not going to take it. And

01:02:15.179 --> 01:02:21.909
that twisted sister. Oh, you said the Snyder.

01:02:21.909 --> 01:02:24.010
No, I said the Snyder. I was sticking with the

01:02:24.010 --> 01:02:26.989
rock theme. Okay. And I'm almost done with my

01:02:26.989 --> 01:02:28.570
whiskey. So this is part of the show where I'm

01:02:28.570 --> 01:02:31.949
starting to get like. It devolves. Yeah. Go to

01:02:31.949 --> 01:02:35.989
bed. It's probably time. Go to bed. So your prediction

01:02:35.989 --> 01:02:39.789
for the game on Saturday against the LA Galaxy.

01:02:39.909 --> 01:02:44.929
I think it will be 2 -1, but it'll be like 1

01:02:44.929 --> 01:02:49.780
-1. We won't be winning until. the end of the

01:02:49.780 --> 01:02:53.440
match. Okay. Interesting. I think it'll be like,

01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:55.360
we're clawing out of like, God, this is just

01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.360
like, we're fighting them off. Almost like we're

01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.239
crawling out of a hole that has arms, just pulling

01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:03.280
us down. And it's LA galaxy. You don't come to

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:05.360
hell with us. We're at the bottom. And we're

01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.260
like, no, God damn it. I don't want to go to,

01:03:08.260 --> 01:03:11.360
you know, I like, I like your, I like your narrative.

01:03:11.460 --> 01:03:14.920
I think it's very fun. Uh, I think it's wrong,

01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:18.449
but I, I, I like it. It's better to be fun than

01:03:18.449 --> 01:03:23.550
right. You're not wrong. It's better to be fun

01:03:23.550 --> 01:03:27.929
than right. You're not wrong. No, I mean, earlier

01:03:27.929 --> 01:03:32.010
in the season, our winning 4 -0 against the Galaxy

01:03:32.010 --> 01:03:35.590
in the first home match and the second time winning

01:03:35.590 --> 01:03:40.909
2 -0 in both cases, I thought we showed rather

01:03:40.909 --> 01:03:48.610
well. I just don't see... I just don't see them

01:03:48.610 --> 01:03:51.329
being able to get it down. I think we have a

01:03:51.329 --> 01:03:53.210
lot of momentum. We have a lot of belief in each

01:03:53.210 --> 01:03:57.690
other. And I think we're going to roll. I'm going

01:03:57.690 --> 01:04:03.030
to call it 3 -0. Stefan Frye is going to come

01:04:03.030 --> 01:04:07.110
back in net. He's going to want to... Ooh, actually,

01:04:07.250 --> 01:04:09.889
huh. No, yeah, Stephen Fry is going to start

01:04:09.889 --> 01:04:12.769
in that. By the way, there's no goalkeeping controversy.

01:04:13.210 --> 01:04:16.610
No? Like, I'm just going to put a kibosh on that.

01:04:16.829 --> 01:04:20.130
Well, I mean, there's only a controversy if people

01:04:20.130 --> 01:04:22.030
want to try to start one. Brian Schmetzer has

01:04:22.030 --> 01:04:23.769
already put the kibosh on it, and he was clear

01:04:23.769 --> 01:04:25.809
before the get -go. I love how transparent he

01:04:25.809 --> 01:04:28.809
was at the start of the season about who gets

01:04:28.809 --> 01:04:31.010
what. There's no conversation. It's not going

01:04:31.010 --> 01:04:33.250
to be a distraction. We're playing fucking football,

01:04:33.329 --> 01:04:35.969
and we're going to focus on winning. And that's

01:04:35.969 --> 01:04:39.469
his tournament. This is seven prize. They know

01:04:39.469 --> 01:04:42.110
where they are in their careers on this club.

01:04:42.750 --> 01:04:45.809
It's I, now when it comes to the off season,

01:04:45.909 --> 01:04:47.630
we're going to have a lot of conversations, but

01:04:47.630 --> 01:04:50.969
this is not, this is not that time. Even if you

01:04:50.969 --> 01:04:55.449
believe that, even if you believe that Andy Thomas

01:04:55.449 --> 01:04:59.789
is the goal, the better goalkeeper right now,

01:04:59.909 --> 01:05:05.630
I do not think. that the difference between Andy

01:05:05.630 --> 01:05:11.590
Thomas and Stephen Fry warrants not giving Stephen

01:05:11.590 --> 01:05:14.369
Fry the opportunity to see out the season as

01:05:14.369 --> 01:05:18.369
a starter. Yeah, I don't think that there's a

01:05:18.369 --> 01:05:24.030
negative war that's that big. that would affect

01:05:24.030 --> 01:05:27.230
our outcomes wins, wins above replacement replacement

01:05:27.230 --> 01:05:29.710
being Andy Thomas. Right. So I don't think, I

01:05:29.710 --> 01:05:32.110
don't think whatever difference I know I, I could,

01:05:32.130 --> 01:05:35.429
I would probably, if I had to pick Nerf gun to

01:05:35.429 --> 01:05:39.329
my head, that it would be if, for who I'd want

01:05:39.329 --> 01:05:41.630
to start, just no strings attached, just based

01:05:41.630 --> 01:05:44.090
on performance that I've seen. No, no heart strings.

01:05:44.550 --> 01:05:48.400
I would, I would probably pick Andy Thomas. And

01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:50.780
he's going to be our goalie of the future, 100%.

01:05:50.780 --> 01:05:57.659
I'm so happy he's ours. The amount of just memorable

01:05:57.659 --> 01:06:01.019
moments he's already had for us. It's just, you're

01:06:01.019 --> 01:06:05.059
already, how lucky are we? We had Keller, Sperning,

01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:08.619
Stephen Fry, and we're going to have probably

01:06:08.619 --> 01:06:11.139
Andy Thomas, who's already become a cult hero.

01:06:11.420 --> 01:06:14.260
Oh, Marcus Hanneman. Well, I was going to say,

01:06:14.300 --> 01:06:15.900
yeah, I was going to say, you know who else had

01:06:15.900 --> 01:06:20.199
a good? Cup tournament moment? Hanneman. Does

01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.780
that mean he was... But that's a false equivalency

01:06:22.780 --> 01:06:24.940
because Hanneman was never... And he came out

01:06:24.940 --> 01:06:29.460
of conversation to be a starter. At that part

01:06:29.460 --> 01:06:32.659
of his career, he had a better career than all

01:06:32.659 --> 01:06:37.300
of our goalies except for Casey Keller. Arguably

01:06:37.300 --> 01:06:40.659
even better than Stefan Frey. Hanneman had a

01:06:40.659 --> 01:06:42.900
wonderful career in Europe long before he came

01:06:42.900 --> 01:06:48.119
back to the Sounders. He was a back up on multiple

01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:51.880
World Cup teams. Yeah. Or the U .S. So anyway,

01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:54.239
I'm excited about that. But yeah, no, I appreciate

01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.559
that it's not going to be a distraction and it

01:06:57.559 --> 01:07:02.639
shouldn't be a debate. Let's just enjoy who we're

01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.679
watching. They're both going to be good. They're

01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:06.179
not going to affect the outcome of the season.

01:07:06.860 --> 01:07:13.099
The only argument in which I will say that I

01:07:13.099 --> 01:07:17.269
can understand a debate is if a game's going

01:07:17.269 --> 01:07:20.010
to penalties sure i don't think stephen fry would

01:07:20.010 --> 01:07:22.829
have to agree with that but at the same time

01:07:22.829 --> 01:07:25.789
that's just not that's not a tactic that the

01:07:25.789 --> 01:07:29.429
sounders have ever done switching a goalkeeper

01:07:29.429 --> 01:07:32.750
right before i'm and i think we i would want

01:07:32.750 --> 01:07:38.150
that considering funny enough we actually cameron

01:07:38.150 --> 01:07:41.250
and i actually asked that exact question to andy

01:07:41.250 --> 01:07:47.239
thomas last year right after the playoff series.

01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.079
That was right when we got to spend some time

01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:55.960
with him. I forget what. And he was like, the

01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.940
thing is, the thing that people don't really

01:07:57.940 --> 01:08:00.159
always think about about that, it's easy to armchair

01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:03.340
quarterback that. But if you make that move as

01:08:03.340 --> 01:08:06.420
a coach, your goalie better fucking perform.

01:08:07.619 --> 01:08:11.980
Because you make that move and you don't win

01:08:11.980 --> 01:08:17.300
that shootout. Ooh, that is a hot seat. Now,

01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.300
granted, you know, Brian's seat's just fine.

01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:24.220
But the better way to deal with it is to not

01:08:24.220 --> 01:08:25.659
get the penalties in the first place. That's

01:08:25.659 --> 01:08:30.439
fair. I think in this particular situation, recently

01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.699
seeing what Andy's done in penalties and knowing

01:08:33.699 --> 01:08:36.779
that Fry just is incapable of stopping a penalty

01:08:36.779 --> 01:08:40.079
kick. Even when he has, it's been called back

01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.680
for coming off the line. He had to go against

01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:49.579
someone who was even worse than him in Brian

01:08:49.579 --> 01:08:54.859
Clark, former Timber, what is his name, for Houston

01:08:54.859 --> 01:09:03.859
last year. Yeah, no. I'm not going to come up

01:09:03.859 --> 01:09:05.600
with it, but you're going to say it and look

01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:12.220
it up. Steve Clark. Yes. There we go. Steve Clark.

01:09:12.460 --> 01:09:18.359
Steve Clark Gable. Well, no. No. Not rock and

01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:22.399
roll? No. No. No, that's a song by the Postal

01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.819
Service. That's not the same. Steve Kelly Clarkson.

01:09:26.100 --> 01:09:29.319
That's much better. There we go. Steve and Kelly

01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:33.979
Clarkson. Oh, my God. You're breaking me. Stop.

01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.500
All right. So it's 930. I think we should stop.

01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:42.380
That is. Cameron, we miss you. Discord, we miss

01:09:42.380 --> 01:09:46.239
you. Keep an eye out. We're going to have the

01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.439
Ultras episode drop this week as well. So you'll

01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:52.279
get double the content, double the fun. Doublemint,

01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.560
Doublemint, Doublemint, Scuttlebutt. That was

01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:57.699
a lot of doubles. Was that four doubles? I don't

01:09:57.699 --> 01:10:01.409
know. There is a double -double here. In -N -Out.

01:10:02.409 --> 01:10:04.569
Which, surprisingly, we've only gone to twice.

01:10:05.869 --> 01:10:08.430
It's five minutes away. Yeah, but you're wearing

01:10:08.430 --> 01:10:12.569
your Dick's soccer jersey. Oh my god, I am. We

01:10:12.569 --> 01:10:17.069
know your loyalties lie. Your ECS Pub League.

01:10:17.949 --> 01:10:21.750
In -N -Out's pretty fucking good, though. Yeah.

01:10:22.369 --> 01:10:26.750
So, refocus. We're ending the show. Discord,

01:10:26.949 --> 01:10:30.050
get on it. Patreon. get on it the show will be

01:10:30.050 --> 01:10:33.909
on patreon before it's published live now that

01:10:33.909 --> 01:10:36.850
we are famous enough to have advertisements so

01:10:36.850 --> 01:10:38.010
if you don't want to hear those advertisements

01:10:38.010 --> 01:10:41.949
pre and post show then jump on the discord to

01:10:41.949 --> 01:10:47.189
help support the show um and and it's it's been

01:10:47.189 --> 01:10:49.890
really helpful and i'm just really excited to

01:10:49.890 --> 01:10:52.520
see where where we're going with this. It's been

01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:55.859
obviously a hard moving away from Seattle, both

01:10:55.859 --> 01:10:59.300
by heart and by mind. But I think with our trifecta

01:10:59.300 --> 01:11:02.420
that we've perfected since last year, I think

01:11:02.420 --> 01:11:04.520
we've been able to publish some good shows and

01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:07.319
it's really showing and we're growing. So, and,

01:11:07.420 --> 01:11:10.100
and, and special shout out to all the scuttlebutt

01:11:10.100 --> 01:11:13.079
listeners who we get to hang out with on game

01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:16.119
days. Saw a lot of you at leagues cup final,

01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:20.300
big, big shout out to Eric 13. eric took good

01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:23.819
care of me saving a saving a spot for for the

01:11:23.819 --> 01:11:28.800
fam um really appreciate that big shout out uh

01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.779
to alex diaz for for hanging with us sitting

01:11:31.779 --> 01:11:34.560
with us and and we just had a great time for

01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:38.279
the leaf cup final um got to see dan the bastard

01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:42.939
quite a bit in the brom end uh didn't get to

01:11:42.939 --> 01:11:46.359
connect with, um, with Paul. I, I know we're

01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:50.560
trying to, he came up from, um, trying to, trying

01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:52.359
to connect with him. So just good, good times.

01:11:52.420 --> 01:11:54.880
We see you all out there. We appreciate you all.

01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:59.539
Um, unfortunately I don't see you. And then also,

01:11:59.619 --> 01:12:02.539
uh, also Pat came out from, from the Bay area.

01:12:03.180 --> 01:12:06.840
Um, Pat's trying to show me up. I know, I know

01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:11.140
he came out from California. yeah so so where

01:12:11.140 --> 01:12:15.260
you at where you actually um this is i've been

01:12:15.260 --> 01:12:18.100
thinking this is the time of year the time of

01:12:18.100 --> 01:12:19.500
year i haven't even been here a year yet but

01:12:19.500 --> 01:12:21.159
i can tell this is going to be the time of year

01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.159
that i miss home because it's nice here all the

01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.819
time but there's something about a seattle summer

01:12:26.819 --> 01:12:30.060
right with there's green is it the green that

01:12:30.060 --> 01:12:32.619
they think is green it's not green here it's

01:12:32.619 --> 01:12:35.100
like the green of your poop when you have a salad

01:12:35.100 --> 01:12:38.229
for like a week You know? It's like, that's really

01:12:38.229 --> 01:12:40.510
brown. But there's some green in there. That's

01:12:40.510 --> 01:12:47.250
San Diego. Yeah. Wow. We all know what I'm talking

01:12:47.250 --> 01:12:51.270
about. Everyone, picture it. Picture it. I put

01:12:51.270 --> 01:12:56.909
the butt in the scuttlebutt. Anyway, but I also

01:12:56.909 --> 01:13:03.510
do love and miss wet, crisp air so bad. Like,

01:13:03.510 --> 01:13:07.520
I want dark. I want it to be 10 p .m., I want

01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.819
to be on First Avenue. I want it to be drizzling,

01:13:09.939 --> 01:13:11.859
and I want to be buzzed, and I want it to be

01:13:11.859 --> 01:13:15.220
after Sounders' victory. So I think possibly...

01:13:15.220 --> 01:13:20.159
Possibly? Possibly. When is the... How deep does

01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:23.579
the playoff go? December? It goes balls deep.

01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:30.020
Inappropriate. It's true? If it's... Well, one,

01:13:30.100 --> 01:13:33.420
if the final works out at home, I'm there. That's

01:13:33.420 --> 01:13:35.699
happening, whether I make it in the stadium or

01:13:35.699 --> 01:13:40.939
not. but I think I can manage an off, not busy

01:13:40.939 --> 01:13:43.239
weekend to fly down and fly back. This year's

01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:48.119
MLS Cup is December 6th. Ooh, that is doable.

01:13:48.300 --> 01:13:51.180
Let's make it to the final at home. It's probably

01:13:51.180 --> 01:13:55.260
going to be hard, but we've had less of a chance

01:13:55.260 --> 01:13:59.000
before, and it happened. You do realize that

01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:04.079
we could see a conference final Seattle -San

01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:07.210
Diego. Yeah, I have realized that. And whether

01:14:07.210 --> 01:14:10.289
it's in Seattle or down here, I think one, it's

01:14:10.289 --> 01:14:11.630
a great opportunity that I get to see. Right

01:14:11.630 --> 01:14:14.090
now it's San Diego. Yeah, obviously it would

01:14:14.090 --> 01:14:14.949
be down here. I don't know what I'm thinking.

01:14:15.050 --> 01:14:17.170
So I actually thought about that and you guys,

01:14:17.250 --> 01:14:20.130
people would be coming down. So you get to see

01:14:20.130 --> 01:14:23.670
me and be like, welcome guys to America's finest

01:14:23.670 --> 01:14:27.189
city. That's what, that's what they're called.

01:14:27.250 --> 01:14:30.380
You just spent. 30 seconds talking about how

01:14:30.380 --> 01:14:37.779
your shitty salad poop of a city. That is their

01:14:37.779 --> 01:14:41.359
nickname. Where the evergreen will stay, but

01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:44.960
the Emerald City, they're America's finest city.

01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:50.979
Just like Scusa down south of Seattle. With the

01:14:50.979 --> 01:14:55.500
consistency of a fro -yo machine just shitting

01:14:55.500 --> 01:14:59.760
out salad green poop. Okay, just making sure.

01:14:59.779 --> 01:15:01.199
Actually, you could do that. Probably a mint

01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:09.500
chocolate. We have gone so far. Throw your scuttlebutt

01:15:09.500 --> 01:15:14.619
life for me. All right, let's wrap it up. Another

01:15:14.619 --> 01:15:17.439
good program. We're about just over an hour.

01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:22.600
Not too bad. Not too bad. All right. Well, you'll

01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.600
find me really right here. And where can they

01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:30.310
find you on socials? Yeah, come join me on Instagram

01:15:30.310 --> 01:15:36.850
at cascades2c. Or you can come join me on Discord

01:15:36.850 --> 01:15:41.210
at nicholas .bluesky .bsky or whatever they do.

01:15:42.050 --> 01:15:46.250
They do the thing that you know. So nicholas

01:15:46.250 --> 01:15:50.390
.bluesky .social. All that good fun stuff. And

01:15:50.390 --> 01:15:55.770
Cameron is in legal limbo. legal -minded punk

01:15:55.770 --> 01:15:58.890
in legal limbo because they have revoked his

01:15:58.890 --> 01:16:03.550
Twitter access. Of course they have. Gotta make

01:16:03.550 --> 01:16:05.149
fun of him for that. I don't even know what that's

01:16:05.149 --> 01:16:08.609
about, but I'm sure it's fucking bullshit. His

01:16:08.609 --> 01:16:13.590
account is suspended. I love it. I love it. I

01:16:13.590 --> 01:16:16.010
can't wait to hear about this from him. Alright,

01:16:16.149 --> 01:16:19.029
the next person we'll hear from is James. James,

01:16:19.170 --> 01:16:23.060
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01:17:01.899 --> 01:17:06.319
MLS team of all time? Seattle Sounders are both

01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:08.640
unequipped and they're arguably the best MLS

01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:09.699
team of all time.