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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say it's genius. It's scintillating. It's

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sensational. It's Seattle Sounders FC soccer.

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Welcome to Sounders FC. Mother effing scuttlebutt.

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I'm not going to put the explicit button down

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quite yet, but we are the greatest club in the

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land, everyone. We have every trophy. We just

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beat Inter -Miami. All the trophies. All the

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trophies. I'm Aaron Lingley. You're Cameron Collins.

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You're Nicholas Biella. Let's go. Some of us

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are minutes away from coming from the stadium.

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Yep. some of us yeah several of us man i didn't

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i think you were pretty much home nicholas by

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the time i was able to take down the girl fc

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banner roma had a little bit of a meltdown after

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about the 25th minute of post -game celebration

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did she spit on anyone she did not she's not

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a miami player no no um so one first off let

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me just say So good to see so many Scuttlebutt

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members. So just shout out to that. Second up,

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Cameron is starting to swirl some stuff around.

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So let's do a little bit of that. Let's get some

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celebratory. Cameron is going to drink alcohol.

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Must be a good night, everyone. Oh, yeah. Oh,

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I spilled a little bit on the keyboard, but that's

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all right. I got some dark hedges, finished in

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rum cask, Irish whiskey that I got on St. Patrick's

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Day and saving for a special occasion. The Irish

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in me is very excited for this. So I am drinking

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whiskey tonight. That's right. This one goes

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out to Eric 13. All right, buddy. He was right

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next to me all day today. So great. Huge shout

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out to Eric 13. Eric was a legend today. Eric

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was an absolute legend today. um i am drinking

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ron zacapa centenario xo which is a solera rum

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it's a very very good rum one of my favorite

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rums but i'm only drinking a very very tiny bit

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because i can't be i can't i can't have more

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than just a little bit today so let me see if

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i can do that you can do it Good thing we're

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not doing video today. You were on video the

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other day, though. Shout out to the folks at

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Battered US, Battered Miami. Yeah, they are fantastic,

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and they actually sent me a post -game message

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congratulating us. They're really good people,

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and we had a really good conversation on them.

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They have some really fun things going on over

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there. And what about you, Aaron? What are you

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going to drink? Well, the sentimental drinks

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have already happened. My kickoff was Elysian

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Space Dust. The second was Full Contact, also

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by Elysian. The only other beers I had were Lagunitas,

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and so I'm having that. That sounded beautiful.

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Really? You know, not as good as yours. Well,

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I'll tell you what. Let's raise a glass. Let's

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raise a glass to... You know, to a club that

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five for five, we, we are just so lucky and it's

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not luck. It's skill, man. It's no, we are lucky

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as fans to be able to also have. Yeah. Tonight,

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tonight was my seventh final that I've attended

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in person. We've won six of those trophies. uh

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2017 is that the one seven 2017 is the one that

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i did not yeah uh no uh second toronto 2017 20

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20 was columbus yeah oh yeah so cheers columbus

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cheers cheers that's good stuff oh i think there's

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only like a handful of times i've had drinks

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with you in person yeah That's because I don't

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drink very much. And this isn't even in person.

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This is a special occasion, though. The Sounders

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have been victorious against Messi. And it was

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in front of 69 ,000 plus people, almost 70 ,000.

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69 ,314 is the official. Yeah, and it was, I

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mean. It was that. Yeah, there were not, it wasn't

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like that's tickets. uh that it would send out

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i didn't i didn't see a blue seat no the seats

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were i'm watching on tv i didn't see a blue seat

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i listened to the highlights and you can hear

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the crowd like i've never heard the crowd like

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that on a highlight i was a little worried how

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much people were cheering for messy but but i

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think 90 of the messy fans are were also sounders

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fans who were just there to see me for sure i

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mean i i clap for messy man there's a third time

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i've gotten to see him messy in my opinion is

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the greatest soccer player of all time uh I think

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I agree with that I I uh but you know me I put

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Cristiano Ronaldo at like number nine or eight

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so uh because he's not even the best person named

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Ronaldo I love their hot takes because that's

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the other Ronaldo from Brazil I mean just to

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like we won't we'll get to everything that's

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happened from the kickoff to post post whistle

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right but um messi was standing there basically

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leading his team to watch us get the trophy and

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i think that says a lot well you have to but

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he he looked back at at his team and there was

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a shot where he looked back and like you're watching

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right yeah like i just with everything that had

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just occurred i thought you know we'll use it

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as feed feed it to feed your anger yeah i mean

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there was some cool stuff in the game where he

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the way he interacted with some of our players,

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uh, especially of all ages, especially Pedro.

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Um, that I did see that was pretty cool. Um,

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I don't know how much they showed on TV, but

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yeah. And you know, uh, we'll get it. There seemed

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to be, there just seemed to be a lot of respect

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from messy to our club and our players, uh, both

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after the match and during the match and the

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conference, it seemed like, wow, he, we beat

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you. He, he got beat three, nothing. And I think

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he, respected that um oh god i'm just so happy

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so here's what we're going to talk about we we've

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won every trophy we can yeah first club to do

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that we had over 69 000 people was and and this

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no one's even close to that by the way no one's

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even no one's even close they had 12 000 in la

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for the third place game i think it was oh what

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was the final score of that one i didn't two

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to one la pulled it out at the end you know what

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i'm i'm Almost happy for them. They've had a

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really rough year, and Orlando is probably going

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to get in anyways. So Asase De Rosario scores

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the game winner, right? Alex Rodon gets two assists

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and a goal. Who saw him getting the penalty?

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Christian did. I think as much as we, and I have

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jumped. To support Cameron and his complaints

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with Brian Schmetzer, I think this might have

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been one of the better tactical games from Brian.

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Absolutely great job. And the subs at the time,

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Georgie was critical. Once Sergio became a center

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back, put Georgie in there. right look what happens

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well well even before that rothrock went 1v1

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got him behind them uh a good save by the goal

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wait we're getting ahead of ourselves yeah yeah

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yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm just saying overall a

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little bit a minute to get into his into the

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game but once he did like that yeah this especially

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the first half felt i would say 18 or 19 minutes

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in the sounders had a little lull they were a

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little tired But overall, the first half felt

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like that was a Sounders team that could beat

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any team in the MLS. Yeah. And the second wind

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of the Sounders, I think, just because of our

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depth, I want to get to that as we talk about

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this match. And I think we've seen it every single

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match since I think things started clicking about

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a month and a half ago. Obviously, we're going

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to talk about post -match shit. Suarez, spitting,

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headlocks, all the bullshit. And also, what's

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next? We're in Club World Cup again. We got work

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to do. We still got some work to do. One of the

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things that I don't want you to miss out on is

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not just that we qualify for Champions League.

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Which, by the way, we already had. We'll say

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that. No, no, no. I mean in this tournament.

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It's not just that we qualify for Champions League.

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But because we won this, we get the bye to the

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round of 16. oh so we don't have to play rubbing

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the nipples i mean i took the camera down so

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you can see that oh oh oh but you're wearing

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my favorite ecs shirt that's like the 2014 kit

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jersey shirt that is my favorite ecs membership

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shirt yep i don't think i have any rips in the

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armpits yet that that heather gray and i actually

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bought a second version of it in one of their

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honestly most of them are black right so it's

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they're not fun to wear when it's 90 degrees

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in the But that one just really well designed

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is a beautiful kit. Okay. Well, we talked about

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my shirt before you got here, Nicholas, which

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is from the program show we attended. Oh, yeah.

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And also, I did not realize this since I was

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in person like you, but Eddie Vedder was in the

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suite with Adrian Hanauer. Watching the left

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of Adrian for the whole match. Good, good. Even

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post -90. Hey, David Beckham waved at me before

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the game. Okay, wait. Okay. You made a comment

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in the stands because we were hanging out pregame.

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But what you missed out on was when David Beckham

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walked by, Bernie was next to me and I pointed

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out and go, look, and I've never seen my wife

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swoon like this. This year will be this year

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will be 10. This month will be 10 years. We're

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20 days away from our 10 year anniversary. I've

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never seen her switch like her. She got googly

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eyed. like like a anime character dude beckham

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don't crack he looks good yeah you know don garber

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don garber looked like he he spent a thousand

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dollars on his haircut and beard trimming and

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you know he spent like ten thousand dollars on

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hair plugs yeah it all failed yeah yeah there's

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like eight of them oh donnie so Leading up to

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this week, obviously, we're not going to have

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a huge scuttlebutt episode. We're going to focus

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mainly on this game tonight. That's kind of the

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postgame. We certainly have mailbag. I did get

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a call for it, but most of that was postmatch.

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I was a little concerned leading up to the game

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when I saw that the ref was going to be the same

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ref who frustrated Danny Mussofsky. Oh, interesting.

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But upon watching the game, what I think I took

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away from it is I think he still had the same

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kind of shit performance as he did in Puebla.

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I could not disagree more, but we'll discuss

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that. Yeah, I was going to say that might have

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been one of the best. I think there was a lot.

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He let a lot of things go like he did in Puebla.

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And I think the two teams. were playing this

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game differently. Like Miami and Seattle both

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came to play versus Pueblo, who was being cynical,

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but he was letting it. So, so that's what I mean.

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He was letting a lot. I think he knew his assignment.

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Yeah. Now I've got to say something. He was,

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he was consistent. He was consistent. Although

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he did the second half, he did start calling

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some stuff and giving some cards in different

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situations, which is what happens when you lose

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control of a match. But I will say. Miami didn't

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like him enough because they were – he was not

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calling their flops over and over again. They

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flopped so many times. And they went and Messi

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first and then like three or four other players

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at halftime all went over to talk to them and

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be like, you've got to start giving us the calls.

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And to his credit, he didn't because I've seen

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referees. Like usually in basketball, but I've

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seen referees fall pressure to that, like Paul

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pray to that pressure and be like, okay. Or just,

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it's just, it just opens something. Right. Right.

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Like, okay, now I see, you know, something that

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looks like that and I have to call it because

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it looks like that. But I think, I think what

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really benefited us is the fact that we had just

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had him and we know the type of game he plays.

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Yeah. And, and so we kind of had a better idea

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of what the line was. And vice versa. Yeah. Right?

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Yeah. There's a lot to say about we've gone through

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a match with a ref. They get to know our players,

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especially our veteran players that have more

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context to maybe what's happening during a match,

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especially post -match when they have their few

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moments together. He didn't have that with them.

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And we're historically not a club that had douchebaggery.

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We're not a douchebag. No, no. And neither is

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Miami. Exactly. As far as it often is, though.

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but what i'm getting at is is going into this

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game neither team was going to play cynical they

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were going to try to play their style of game

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to win this game and now our team will be your

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team yeah and i was looking forward to that because

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oftentimes when two teams come out trying to

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play and dictate their style of play that bodes

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well for us So how should we start this? We need

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to formally start the episode. Should we talk

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about the lead up to the match? We're going to

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start out by shouting my cousin Lillian out,

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who performed with the Mexican pop star that

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opened the match. Oh, really? Yeah. Your cousin

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was one of those four dancers? Yeah, she's Seahawks

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dancer. And they invited her, I think, yesterday.

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And then she had to learn the dance yesterday

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and then do it today. So she was out there pregame

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while I was setting up practicing, and it was

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just super cool to see Lillian out there. Wait,

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she had to learn to dance? Learn the dance. Oh,

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the dance. I was like, wow, how did she get –

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She is a professional dancer. The dad jokes are

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strong. She is a great dancer and a teacher.

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But, yeah, super cool to see Lillian out there.

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doing her thing and uh stadium cut off the singer

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when he tried to do like a last minute shout

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at the very end what i learned is what's called

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the whale call before the boom boom clap oh yeah

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yeah it has a yeah yeah is that officially called

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the whale call because the announcer on the tv

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said it's the whale sounders whale call yeah

00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.539
yep it is i'll take it it's literally a whale

00:16:07.539 --> 00:16:11.419
sound like that's the sound they make It's not.

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Yeah, it is. It is. Then it's been played with

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a little bit. I can't mimic it, but I know what

00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:20.740
you're talking about. It's kind of like a but

00:16:20.740 --> 00:16:25.919
it's like your musical note. Okay, well, I'll

00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:29.559
accept it. And if it is actually a recorded whale

00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:33.679
call that's been kind of edited to reverb, then

00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:40.740
fantastic. Very, very, very sounders. Yeah. All

00:16:40.740 --> 00:16:45.860
right. So. So that happened. We had Head in the

00:16:45.860 --> 00:16:49.019
Heart doing National Anthem again. Okay, wait.

00:16:49.539 --> 00:16:53.740
That was not on TV. We go from really high energy.

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Everyone's excited. And then just like the folkiest.

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Simon and Garfunkel. Really? I will say. It sounded

00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:07.140
nice. Head in the Heart is high energy. He once

00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:10.660
choked the sound guy. I thought it was at Sunset.

00:17:10.660 --> 00:17:13.059
I do know that story. Someone else told me that

00:17:13.059 --> 00:17:15.299
it was at the tractor, but they're on the same

00:17:15.299 --> 00:17:21.059
block. Yeah. So, but they're very talented. Yeah,

00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:24.799
in Ballard. They're an old school. Eddie Vedder's

00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.420
there. Mike can't just take over. He's done a

00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:31.259
lot. There's never enough. Yeah, that's true.

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There's never enough Mike McCready. I mean, it

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wasn't really a Sounders. They probably helped

00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:38.960
bring them in, but this was an MLS event. This

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was not a Sounders event. So the Sounders, they

00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.559
were there. But when you bring it head in the

00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.980
heart, it's just like, okay, well, Brandi Carlile

00:17:46.980 --> 00:17:47.880
would have been there. I mean, to be honest,

00:17:48.099 --> 00:17:50.519
they did a really great job. It just didn't fit

00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:52.039
with the atmosphere. It didn't fit the vibe,

00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.839
yeah. Yeah, you're hyping. You just had fireworks

00:17:55.839 --> 00:18:00.210
going and everyone going crazy. Bring in that

00:18:00.210 --> 00:18:02.670
12 -year -old who sang last week who's been out

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four or five times. She is awesome. It's a shame

00:18:07.890 --> 00:18:11.089
because the version was good. It just was not

00:18:11.089 --> 00:18:14.029
the right time. Let's talk about the starting

00:18:14.029 --> 00:18:16.089
lineup then. I didn't even hear who we were starting

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because I was so nervous going into that. It

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kind of felt like 2016 MLS Cup where everything

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just kept happening so fast. Suddenly we're in

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the match and I was just feeling nervous. Yeah,

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so you have Thomas and Goal, which we knew was

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going to be the case. You have Alex Roldan, Yamar,

00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.279
Jackson, Reagan. And then the big question was

00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:39.119
who was going to replace Nuhu, and we went with

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Reed Baker Whiting. Now, keep in mind, Reed Baker

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Whiting was who we replaced Nuhu with during

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the Club World Cup with Atletico Madrid. So that

00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:50.180
shouldn't have been a big surprise, although

00:18:50.180 --> 00:18:53.420
depending on the matchups, John Bell could have

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been a candidate there. So we went with Reed

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Baker Whiting. Then we kind of went with what

00:19:00.369 --> 00:19:02.690
you've been seeing. Obed Vargas, Christian Roldan,

00:19:02.809 --> 00:19:05.609
Paul Rothrock, Jesus Ferreira, Pedro de la Vega

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with Osase de Rosario up top. Now Miami has Ustari.

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They have Alba, Falcone, Lujan Frey in the back

00:19:15.829 --> 00:19:19.730
four. DePaul, Busquets. By the way, DePaul, I

00:19:19.730 --> 00:19:24.490
don't remember seeing him play today. Yeah, he

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did not make a market as far as I'm... Honestly,

00:19:27.869 --> 00:19:29.829
no one really did, but yeah, definitely not him.

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Busquets and Bright with Allende, Suarez, and

00:19:34.170 --> 00:19:36.450
Messi up top. Now, by the way, just as a heads

00:19:36.450 --> 00:19:38.269
up, I usually like going to Foot Mob. I think

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Foot Mob does a really good job with their stuff.

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Foot Mob's ratings for the 11 starters for Miami?

00:19:45.829 --> 00:19:50.410
4 .7, 5 .2. Well, no, so you got 11 starters.

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I just want to ask you, In those 11, where do

00:19:54.460 --> 00:19:57.380
you think Messi ranks in the, you know, like

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the highest Miami player to the lowest? In today's

00:20:00.779 --> 00:20:05.400
match? Yeah, today's match. Probably five or

00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:07.160
six. Okay. I look him higher than that. I would

00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:13.140
say like third. He was the 10th best player for

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Miami on the stats. He was rated a 6 .1. Was

00:20:17.140 --> 00:20:22.119
Suarez the best? There's nine other players over

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6 .1 in that match. Bullshit. Suarez had two

00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:29.579
amazing passes. I was going to say Suarez is

00:20:29.579 --> 00:20:34.460
probably the best player. Busquets probably had

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to do a lot of stuff. Only the right back Ian

00:20:43.420 --> 00:20:47.279
Frey was rated lower. according to Foot Mob,

00:20:47.380 --> 00:20:51.759
which I found very, very fun. He was messy. We'll

00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.779
get to it. He was shut down a lot by Christian.

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He was shut down by RBW a few times. Obed shut

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him down a few times. Obed was getting run. They

00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:04.559
each had a massive moment that they will remember

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for the rest of their career. Obed in the box.

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Reed Baker whiting on the sideline. Oh, when

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he ran like 40 yards and got behind him without

00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:15.779
following him and getting in front. Oh, so beautiful.

00:21:16.019 --> 00:21:18.700
So beautiful. Absolutely perfect. On TV, it's

00:21:18.700 --> 00:21:21.220
even better because there's a camera right to

00:21:21.220 --> 00:21:23.359
the left of the goal just looking straight. No,

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one thing we need to make sure to talk about

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is this week, because it was after. I recorded

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with the ultras cause we recorded with them right

00:21:31.980 --> 00:21:35.980
after the last match. Uh, this week, Brian said,

00:21:36.099 --> 00:21:37.779
yeah, they have messy and they have these other

00:21:37.779 --> 00:21:39.579
players, blah, blah, blah. They have messy, but

00:21:39.579 --> 00:21:42.339
we have Paul Rothrock. And then he, and then

00:21:42.339 --> 00:21:44.859
he named all the other young guys. And it's like,

00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:47.619
yeah. And then the sellers ran with that. the

00:21:47.619 --> 00:21:49.740
sounders had a promotion where if you traded

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in your yeah if you traded in your leonel messi

00:21:54.019 --> 00:21:56.220
jersey at the stadium the first hundred people

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you'd get a paul rothrock was about to say that

00:21:58.819 --> 00:22:01.299
when they blew the final whistle too he didn't

00:22:01.299 --> 00:22:03.720
get to talk about that no they talked about it

00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:05.539
earlier it was it was mentioned at the start

00:22:05.539 --> 00:22:07.839
of the match and then that's cool yeah i mean

00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:09.859
yeah and here's the thing is the interviews paul

00:22:09.859 --> 00:22:12.680
rothrock did this week were amazing talking about

00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:16.640
being from here talking about In 2009, being

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.299
with his dad up on the 300 level to watch Messi

00:22:19.299 --> 00:22:22.339
play for Barcelona against the Sounders. And

00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:25.819
just, it was so cool. I mean, you saw when he,

00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:28.519
you know, we already know what happened, scores

00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:31.039
the goal where he goes nuts and then suddenly

00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.660
he starts kissing his badge. He was about to

00:22:33.660 --> 00:22:35.259
take his shirt off. That's actually what he was

00:22:35.259 --> 00:22:37.240
going to do. He did one of those. And then he

00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.099
kisses his badge. And then I don't know if they

00:22:39.099 --> 00:22:42.539
showed it in the broadcast. at the game as he's

00:22:42.539 --> 00:22:44.740
running up the sideline back to get on the other

00:22:44.740 --> 00:22:47.839
side he's hyping the crowd up oh right in front

00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:50.079
of me and like right in front of me all the way

00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:53.440
up to the but forever and is like going and like

00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:58.559
you could tell and even um after georgie after

00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:00.559
georgie after he drew the penalty he was hyping

00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.579
i mean these players this wasn't just oh it's

00:23:03.579 --> 00:23:05.579
another this is a manufactured tournament this

00:23:05.579 --> 00:23:09.539
cup doesn't matter like 65 ,000 or 69 ,000 fans

00:23:09.539 --> 00:23:13.039
that were like, and each of the chants were loud.

00:23:13.779 --> 00:23:17.759
ECS was on form today. Which is great because

00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:19.759
Miami brought it too. They brought a bunch of

00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:23.839
people. There was a great, so right, you guys

00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.539
were there. I could only see it from TV. I think

00:23:27.539 --> 00:23:29.920
we all can agree in the few years that Apple

00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.500
has taken over all broadcasting, right? They've

00:23:33.500 --> 00:23:36.180
done a great job. I like the quality of the cameras.

00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:39.359
After the first season and some digital bullshit,

00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:42.619
the actual experience from the stadium is translated

00:23:42.619 --> 00:23:46.859
very well to the viewer on TV. The audio is great.

00:23:46.980 --> 00:23:51.039
Because they have mic'd up certain supporter

00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:54.420
groups who their capos can't sing and are out

00:23:54.420 --> 00:23:56.779
of tune. So we can do without some of those opposing

00:23:56.779 --> 00:23:59.480
supporter groups at times. But you're right.

00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:01.859
It creates a wonderful atmosphere that I think

00:24:01.859 --> 00:24:04.349
mimics. what we feel in the stadium for those

00:24:04.349 --> 00:24:07.069
of you at home. Well, I think I get to confirm

00:24:07.069 --> 00:24:08.950
that because I don't get a lot of opportunity,

00:24:08.990 --> 00:24:12.289
obviously, in the last year with my move to San

00:24:12.289 --> 00:24:14.990
Diego and yada, yada, yada. But I haven't been

00:24:14.990 --> 00:24:17.470
to a match in forever, right? But I get to speak

00:24:17.470 --> 00:24:21.670
to you guys weekly. And you tell me what it's

00:24:21.670 --> 00:24:25.470
like in the stadium. We do an episode about Sounders

00:24:25.470 --> 00:24:29.329
matches together. And I can tell you that it's

00:24:29.329 --> 00:24:34.380
well represented on TV. and it was clear that

00:24:34.380 --> 00:24:37.299
there was pink there but it was it looked about

00:24:37.299 --> 00:24:41.440
20 80. they were quiet they were relatively outside

00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.940
of their but yeah outside of their supporters

00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:46.079
section yeah there's pink sparkles i think there

00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.000
was a lot of look though that were sounders fans

00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.099
that just have the pink jersey because it's miami

00:24:50.099 --> 00:24:52.799
because it was clearly i mean even when they

00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:57.259
came out Well, I'd be annoyed if you were a Sounders

00:24:57.259 --> 00:24:58.960
fan wearing a pink jersey at a Sounders home

00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:00.819
game in a final. I mean, but you're talking,

00:25:00.980 --> 00:25:04.200
I mean, lots of, on the big screen, parents in

00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.460
Sounders jersey with their kids in messy jerseys.

00:25:06.500 --> 00:25:08.400
I mean, you've got kids in Seattle wearing Oklahoma

00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.099
City Thunder jerseys, for Christ's sake. Then

00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:14.420
they're not my kids. Yeah, I understand. But

00:25:14.420 --> 00:25:16.740
I think some people that have to choose what

00:25:16.740 --> 00:25:19.319
they fight their kids on, right? They're doing

00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.160
bad parenting. It's better. Let your child get

00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.319
drunk before you let them wear an Oklahoma City

00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.220
Thunder jersey. I will give my child heroin.

00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:35.380
Why not? So, by the way, they did set a League's

00:25:35.380 --> 00:25:38.519
Cup attendance record with 69 ,314. You know

00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:42.299
the previous record? Giggity, giggity. I don't.

00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:51.440
I don't. But... The lack of respect, at least

00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:53.680
from the ECS section in the south end of the

00:25:53.680 --> 00:26:00.380
stadium, just very loudly, who are you, and boos

00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:04.299
when Miami kicks the field. The best was when

00:26:04.299 --> 00:26:07.559
Messi was down that time, where I think he just

00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.319
needed a nap because he's old. Younger than me,

00:26:10.339 --> 00:26:14.099
but he's old. And then they started chanting,

00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:16.829
let him die. The entire crowd started chanting,

00:26:16.930 --> 00:26:21.150
let him die on our half the stadium. So good.

00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:24.150
Our first echo chant was well -timed. I did make

00:26:24.150 --> 00:26:27.230
a note of that. I think it was after the first

00:26:27.230 --> 00:26:30.150
call. Well, shout out to head capo today, John

00:26:30.150 --> 00:26:35.529
Beasley. Beasley saw his opportunity and took

00:26:35.529 --> 00:26:40.609
it with the longest. Yeah. Free the bees. Yeah.

00:26:40.750 --> 00:26:42.829
Yeah. 128. He used to be there before he was

00:26:42.829 --> 00:26:45.970
started. leading shit and he was right in front

00:26:45.970 --> 00:26:49.589
of me and tour um then we in his family yeah

00:26:49.589 --> 00:26:55.029
that that's that's awesome so john john led the

00:26:55.029 --> 00:26:58.950
longest seattle call and response i've been a

00:26:58.950 --> 00:27:05.009
part of in years uh it just did not stop he it

00:27:05.009 --> 00:27:09.210
must have been like 20 plus i think that's probably

00:27:09.210 --> 00:27:11.750
when i took a note and i was like it's the, the

00:27:11.750 --> 00:27:15.930
match is still going. Like we, we are beyond

00:27:15.930 --> 00:27:18.730
five or six, the fist should be thrown, but then

00:27:18.730 --> 00:27:20.569
obviously the energy is still there. And I think

00:27:20.569 --> 00:27:26.809
that's important because we, we have shown that

00:27:26.809 --> 00:27:29.089
we have given up a few goals when we just kind

00:27:29.089 --> 00:27:31.630
of like check out when we're not, we're checked

00:27:31.630 --> 00:27:35.089
out for a second. Right. That's been, I think

00:27:35.089 --> 00:27:36.930
are only two goals. So the whole tournament,

00:27:36.970 --> 00:27:40.140
I can't remember. specifically them, but I just

00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:41.880
remember all our goals being just kind of like,

00:27:41.900 --> 00:27:45.460
come on, we're better than that. And to go up

00:27:45.460 --> 00:27:48.339
a goal against Miami at home in a final, okay,

00:27:48.420 --> 00:27:52.000
you could almost just get overwhelmed with excitement

00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.980
because of it. And I think the echo chant is

00:27:54.980 --> 00:27:58.220
something that just kind of resets your psyche.

00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:03.000
And it is such a buildup of everything and energy.

00:28:03.099 --> 00:28:05.960
You get connected with the entire stadium with

00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.059
the echo chant. yeah i think it was perfectly

00:28:08.059 --> 00:28:12.759
timed and i think it's a shutout because we not

00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.599
only did we scored but we reset and they could

00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.900
not get through us it was just it's perfect yeah

00:28:19.900 --> 00:28:21.279
let me ask you something about the broadcast

00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.559
because obviously i haven't watched i'm going

00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.099
to watch the whole thing again i've only watched

00:28:26.099 --> 00:28:29.200
the highlights but i was at the game so i didn't

00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.220
hear it live and i had multiple people including

00:28:33.220 --> 00:28:35.599
one of our ultras and then uh my old roommate

00:28:36.009 --> 00:28:38.869
mentioned how annoyed I would be because of how

00:28:38.869 --> 00:28:40.930
pro Miami they were. But when I was watching

00:28:40.930 --> 00:28:43.930
the highlights, they were very pro Seattle and

00:28:43.930 --> 00:28:46.450
they were saying such great things about Seattle.

00:28:46.549 --> 00:28:49.069
And Taylor does that all the time too. He always

00:28:49.069 --> 00:28:51.930
talks about how great Seattle is. Yeah. I've

00:28:51.930 --> 00:28:55.730
actually always been a more of a Twelman supporter

00:28:55.730 --> 00:29:00.130
because I've, I've mostly watched matches, right?

00:29:00.190 --> 00:29:05.829
I'm not usually there in stadium. I don't, Agree

00:29:05.829 --> 00:29:08.470
with that. I think maybe Seattle lights being

00:29:08.470 --> 00:29:12.450
one of them. We have, we're passive aggressive

00:29:12.450 --> 00:29:14.950
and we look for like confirmation box, like anything

00:29:14.950 --> 00:29:19.769
that can support our argument to, we are always

00:29:19.769 --> 00:29:22.269
overlooked or anything like that. If you watch

00:29:22.269 --> 00:29:27.390
the post match for this, it is effusive. How

00:29:27.390 --> 00:29:33.910
Andrew was it? Weeby. Yeah. Weeby. um i love

00:29:33.910 --> 00:29:36.529
that dude bradley ray phillips uh sasha question

00:29:36.529 --> 00:29:40.630
oh my god they're like this we are so enamored

00:29:40.630 --> 00:29:43.150
with this club how they built built everything

00:29:43.150 --> 00:29:46.869
um i mean bought not built right that's that's

00:29:46.869 --> 00:29:48.069
what we're gonna that's we're gonna title this

00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:52.089
episode thanks to ecs bot not built like everyone

00:29:52.089 --> 00:29:55.069
in post match was effusive of how how we've done

00:29:55.069 --> 00:29:56.869
things especially when you saw how the match

00:29:56.869 --> 00:30:00.809
ended right you have world -class players that

00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:03.480
have seen it all That can't get it to fucking

00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:08.680
gather. At the end of a match. You know. A bunch

00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:13.319
of kids just beat you. Is basically what. Miami.

00:30:14.019 --> 00:30:17.500
Acted like at the end of the match. When. The

00:30:17.500 --> 00:30:23.039
rest of MLS. Petulant. Yeah. What would you call

00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.380
them? The MLS couch. They were saying how strong

00:30:27.380 --> 00:30:30.460
and how built this team is, how consistent we

00:30:30.460 --> 00:30:32.539
are. When we talk about this, we just need it.

00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.019
And that's why our expectations every season

00:30:35.019 --> 00:30:39.339
are number two. What we're frustrated with is

00:30:39.339 --> 00:30:41.599
why can't you figure out the recipe so we can

00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.039
start clicking because we've got the right players.

00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:46.019
We've never argued that we have the wrong players.

00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:49.359
I like seeing something flashy every once in

00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.460
a while, but it's like, just get it together.

00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:53.259
We're almost there. We're almost clicking. And

00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:55.380
we started clicking a month and a half ago, and

00:30:55.380 --> 00:30:58.819
it is fearsome. And we're getting, I think, the

00:30:58.819 --> 00:31:02.039
respect from announcers and post -match. So I

00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.420
don't know what you were hearing, Cameron, but

00:31:04.420 --> 00:31:08.400
I watched the entire match from an hour before

00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:14.019
to an hour after, and it was fairly reported.

00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:16.779
From both sides. They have good players, obviously.

00:31:17.740 --> 00:31:28.740
So do we. We weren't thrown to the wolves. Yeah.

00:31:28.859 --> 00:31:31.839
Someone talk. I was waiting for Cameron to respond.

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.500
You were mentioning Cameron. I was on mute. As

00:31:35.500 --> 00:31:38.720
I'm trying to eat my dinner. I literally could

00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.539
not leave my seat during the whole game. Because

00:31:41.539 --> 00:31:44.849
I was... Once it started, I was – I mean, obviously,

00:31:44.869 --> 00:31:46.190
I didn't want to leave during the match for a

00:31:46.190 --> 00:31:47.690
big match like that, but also I was just too

00:31:47.690 --> 00:31:50.470
nervous. So at halftime, I sat in my seat. I

00:31:50.470 --> 00:31:53.369
didn't move. Once we went up 2 -0, I started

00:31:53.369 --> 00:31:55.589
feeling okay, and it was once the third goal

00:31:55.589 --> 00:31:57.650
happened, which was in the 90th minute, that

00:31:57.650 --> 00:32:00.069
I was feeling like, okay, we won. But we've seen

00:32:00.069 --> 00:32:03.890
too many times where – And Messi gets a goal,

00:32:04.009 --> 00:32:05.849
and then suddenly Miami can come back and tie

00:32:05.849 --> 00:32:07.630
it out of nowhere. They just did that. Teams

00:32:07.630 --> 00:32:10.650
panic. Teams panic. They just did that. Yeah.

00:32:10.670 --> 00:32:13.390
I mean, they had a red card help. Less than a

00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:18.910
week ago. Yeah. It was on Wednesday. It was 1

00:32:18.910 --> 00:32:22.150
-0 until basically the end of the match. Yeah.

00:32:22.890 --> 00:32:25.829
Last 10 minutes, right? I mean, but game state

00:32:25.829 --> 00:32:28.009
matters, and they had to push once they went

00:32:28.009 --> 00:32:33.890
down. Yeah. So let's talk about, let's get into

00:32:33.890 --> 00:32:35.769
the game. Let's get into the game. Game kicks

00:32:35.769 --> 00:32:39.869
off. A little nervy at first, a little bit of

00:32:39.869 --> 00:32:42.769
slipping around, a little bit of full contact.

00:32:42.869 --> 00:32:44.950
Like, wait, what sport are we watching? Is that

00:32:44.950 --> 00:32:48.329
a body check? What was that? got a little got

00:32:48.329 --> 00:32:51.069
a little i didn't i felt like it was miami diving

00:32:51.069 --> 00:32:53.910
every time they they barely a few times we had

00:32:53.910 --> 00:32:56.009
two players run into each other but it there

00:32:56.009 --> 00:32:58.329
wasn't a foul on either team miami is just so

00:32:58.329 --> 00:33:00.750
used to being just touched and then falling over

00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:03.210
and getting a call that it didn't happen this

00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:09.430
they were like no no that that that was clear

00:33:09.430 --> 00:33:12.950
to me i mean I haven't watched any Miami matches.

00:33:13.069 --> 00:33:15.650
I can assume what you just said is true because

00:33:15.650 --> 00:33:17.829
of the players they have on their roster, right?

00:33:18.089 --> 00:33:23.170
But it was pretty clear to me that the ref had

00:33:23.170 --> 00:33:29.289
a plan for the match and expected this, and everything

00:33:29.289 --> 00:33:33.430
played out to expectation from them. The Sounders

00:33:33.430 --> 00:33:37.970
don't placate anybody. Miami plays the exact

00:33:37.970 --> 00:33:44.319
same way every single match. They just hit players

00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.519
that don't fall down. And we fall down when we

00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.480
physically have to fall down. But Christian Roldan

00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:53.880
doesn't fall down to earn a foul if it means

00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.039
we can actually move forward and score a goal.

00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:57.440
And we have a number of players that do that.

00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:01.579
And I think the ref helped us in that regard

00:34:01.579 --> 00:34:10.460
because, yeah, they were diving. Agreed. But...

00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:14.800
Mid nugget thumbs upping, but the collective,

00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:22.559
the collective, the collective what am I looking

00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.679
for? The, the collective team defense, the pressure

00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:30.519
that we were putting them under was, was just

00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.619
fantastic. And I think, I don't think they've

00:34:34.619 --> 00:34:39.449
been bossed like that in the midfield. in in

00:34:39.449 --> 00:34:42.070
a hot meta it just felt like i mean they said

00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:45.449
kc had i think oh or sorry orlando city i was

00:34:45.449 --> 00:34:49.889
like city orlando city had bossed them and we're

00:34:49.889 --> 00:34:51.690
even better in the midfield than orlando is what

00:34:51.690 --> 00:34:54.090
the broadcast basically said so they were gonna

00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:55.610
have to watch out that's what they said pregame

00:34:55.610 --> 00:35:02.099
and i think that proved to be true I think the

00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:05.300
cohesion of our midfield is like Orlando is a

00:35:05.300 --> 00:35:08.719
rival, right? Yeah. And a rivalry match, anything

00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.960
can fucking happen. Yeah. Emotions, adrenaline,

00:35:11.219 --> 00:35:15.019
all that. But Orlando, not the last match, but

00:35:15.019 --> 00:35:17.059
the time before in the regular season. Yeah,

00:35:17.059 --> 00:35:19.039
when they were like 4 -0. Yeah, they just dominated

00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:23.360
them. Like I said, they're a good team too. Yeah.

00:35:23.659 --> 00:35:26.179
But I do think there's something inherently.

00:35:26.809 --> 00:35:30.530
The depth, the connection, the coaching, the

00:35:30.530 --> 00:35:36.090
consistency of our squad. No club faces this

00:35:36.090 --> 00:35:40.530
in the MLS. Even in Emeki's, right? This is what

00:35:40.530 --> 00:35:43.829
makes us so consistently good all the time. When

00:35:43.829 --> 00:35:48.530
we get blown out, it's an anomaly. I think we've

00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:50.610
only been scoring multiple goals in the last

00:35:50.610 --> 00:35:53.389
month and a half. Which is why my balls feel

00:35:53.389 --> 00:35:58.130
so big right now. I was bitching up until this

00:35:58.130 --> 00:35:59.909
point, right? Up until really this tournament.

00:36:00.269 --> 00:36:02.489
I've been bitching about how many goals we score.

00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:06.989
1 .75 a match. It felt like almost every, we

00:36:06.989 --> 00:36:10.110
had the one four goal like explosion. It's like,

00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:12.469
get it to fucking gather. Like, are you talking

00:36:12.469 --> 00:36:15.429
like before club world cup? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

00:36:15.630 --> 00:36:18.889
Club world cup. Like, and it's been brought up.

00:36:18.909 --> 00:36:20.730
Yeah. We were in the group of death and we, and

00:36:20.730 --> 00:36:23.800
we. pooped out but everyone when anyone mentions

00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.059
that including announcers in this game they mentioned

00:36:26.059 --> 00:36:28.239
that we were in the club and the group of death

00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.699
and that we showed up great and that we were

00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:35.880
we were quality you know and and and it is it

00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.380
you look back and you're like god damn we did

00:36:38.380 --> 00:36:40.219
need to kind of lose those matches against the

00:36:40.219 --> 00:36:41.920
best clubs in the world the best club in the

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.320
world right yeah and then look what's happened

00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.239
the the The arm and arm, the red rover, red rover,

00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.679
bring whoever the fuck right over is what our

00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:56.099
locker room looks like right now. And I'm fucking

00:36:56.099 --> 00:36:59.199
loving it. We're scoring two plus goals a match.

00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:04.699
About 2 .6. Easily. Easily. My prediction was

00:37:04.699 --> 00:37:08.159
4 -0 Pedro de la Vega. Them, nothing. It was

00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.420
3 -0, not Pedro. It was basically bench players.

00:37:13.659 --> 00:37:20.239
This is great. I'm in a hot tub of happiness

00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:24.719
right now. As you should be. And in this League's

00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.840
Cup, I believe in this League's Cup, we ended

00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:33.300
up outscoring teams, what was it, 16 -2? 13 -2.

00:37:33.340 --> 00:37:37.679
13 -2. Okay, thank you. Over the course of three,

00:37:37.820 --> 00:37:41.599
four, five, six games? Seven games? Yeah, no,

00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:47.630
just crazy. Three shutouts. Yeah. This is not

00:37:47.630 --> 00:37:49.429
a game where I would have expected for shutouts

00:37:49.429 --> 00:37:52.250
to get a shutout too. I mean, this is, this is

00:37:52.250 --> 00:37:54.489
a one, I mean, where you would expect a goal

00:37:54.489 --> 00:37:57.730
more than no goals. I mean, I predicted it only

00:37:57.730 --> 00:37:59.590
because I was just throwing all positivity in

00:37:59.590 --> 00:38:02.010
there, but I totally would expect it at a messy

00:38:02.010 --> 00:38:05.329
moment, right? Whether it be a free kick. Now,

00:38:05.349 --> 00:38:07.110
you know who else didn't you have predicted it?

00:38:07.210 --> 00:38:09.230
We're, we're, we're, we're going to get around

00:38:09.230 --> 00:38:11.710
to that, but yeah. So pregame. Go ahead, Cameron.

00:38:11.889 --> 00:38:14.550
Oh, I mean, this is someone who keeps winning

00:38:14.550 --> 00:38:17.309
over and over again. And there might be other

00:38:17.309 --> 00:38:19.110
winners, so I'm not giving it all away. Like

00:38:19.110 --> 00:38:23.329
you have the official stats, but Roma. Roma won

00:38:23.329 --> 00:38:25.449
again. Won again, the little five -year -old.

00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:31.699
Predicted 3 -0. Did she really? Yeah. She's done

00:38:31.699 --> 00:38:33.780
this like three or four times this season where

00:38:33.780 --> 00:38:36.599
she's predicted a score. She predicted knew who

00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.780
to score against Cruz Azul. Wasn't there an otter

00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:44.420
that predicted the Seahawks Super Bowl? They

00:38:44.420 --> 00:38:47.460
predicted like the last three Super Bowls. Yeah,

00:38:47.460 --> 00:38:49.920
maybe an otter. Up to that point a decade ago.

00:38:50.460 --> 00:38:54.139
That sounds right. So, yeah, Roma's killing it.

00:38:55.340 --> 00:38:57.519
I remember just killing it. Fix doesn't even

00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:02.619
end. She's just keyed in on this. Well, she's

00:39:02.619 --> 00:39:04.519
been to every Sounders match she possibly could

00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:08.679
from the day she was born. She has been to quite

00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.679
a few Sounders. Whether that's good or bad parenting,

00:39:10.860 --> 00:39:13.639
we don't know. It's yet to be determined. I don't

00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:21.119
know. I think it's quite okay. It's funny. All

00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.010
right, so 1 -0. Let's talk about the goal. yeah

00:39:24.010 --> 00:39:28.429
it's rolled on so so yeah so so how perfect is

00:39:28.429 --> 00:39:31.510
that cross from wait so real quick explicit leading

00:39:31.510 --> 00:39:36.489
up to that though leading up to that i thought

00:39:36.489 --> 00:39:41.550
we were really no but osase had a few other times

00:39:41.550 --> 00:39:44.210
where he almost had chances and it felt like

00:39:44.210 --> 00:39:46.909
in like the third minute like like a third minute

00:39:46.909 --> 00:39:50.639
yeah and then there was yeah But even just like

00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.460
the passes that were going through to him, they

00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:57.019
weren't because he's so new to the team. He would

00:39:57.019 --> 00:39:58.599
run one way and the pass would go the other way.

00:39:58.739 --> 00:40:01.699
So clearly, think about what he's going to be

00:40:01.699 --> 00:40:04.019
able to do when they're on the same page. So

00:40:04.019 --> 00:40:06.519
it was leading up to that. There was these few

00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.219
moments. And then I was thinking in my head like,

00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.340
oh, man. He's got like four or five goals. Does

00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:13.000
he have four goals? Four goals in League's Cup.

00:40:13.179 --> 00:40:15.880
Yeah. I was like, man, I kind of wish Moose was

00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:17.900
here. And then all of that changed. All of that

00:40:17.900 --> 00:40:22.639
changed. Well, a big part of this is with Osase.

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:25.539
When we talked about it with the team, when we

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:27.039
were talking about Danny Masovsky earlier in

00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.400
the year, is that this team can pass. And this

00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.840
team has that talent to pick out players in the

00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:38.039
box. So they're going to get opportunities. And

00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.500
Osase is certainly getting those opportunities.

00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.840
And watching him play, he's playing with a lot

00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:47.019
of confidence. And hearing him talk, it's really

00:40:47.019 --> 00:40:50.610
fun. It is really fun. But yeah, so beautiful

00:40:50.610 --> 00:40:54.550
cross from Alex Roldan. 100 % perfect. Yeah.

00:40:54.869 --> 00:40:58.130
Absolutely perfect. There's nothing wrong with

00:40:58.130 --> 00:41:02.449
it. No. And Osaze uses his body, gets up, and

00:41:02.449 --> 00:41:06.130
puts it away. And by the way, I mean, I'm a public

00:41:06.130 --> 00:41:10.309
veteran. I know it's been about 10 months since

00:41:10.309 --> 00:41:12.809
I've played in it, but headers are not easy.

00:41:13.250 --> 00:41:18.550
No. I mean, especially when it's to... take the

00:41:18.550 --> 00:41:22.650
lead in a league's cup final against messy. You've

00:41:22.650 --> 00:41:26.409
done that quite a bit. Well, he, he did it perfectly.

00:41:26.690 --> 00:41:29.969
And I mean, the cross is absolutely perfect,

00:41:30.110 --> 00:41:32.510
obviously, but it's like almost so perfect. I'm

00:41:32.510 --> 00:41:34.190
going to fuck this up. I'm going to fuck it up.

00:41:34.289 --> 00:41:36.409
Almost like messy fucked it up later in the match.

00:41:37.570 --> 00:41:44.829
We're going to talk about that. Yeah. So first

00:41:44.829 --> 00:41:48.349
half, I think, I think it's, Kind of a back -and

00:41:48.349 --> 00:41:51.789
-forth game. Both teams are kind of feeling out

00:41:51.789 --> 00:41:55.190
each other, feeling out the... You think it's

00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:58.929
back -and -forth? I think time -wise, there's

00:41:58.929 --> 00:42:00.630
a little bit, but overall, I think the Sounders

00:42:00.630 --> 00:42:02.550
were the more dominant team. But there was a

00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:04.550
lull in about the 18th minute for the next 5

00:42:04.550 --> 00:42:08.309
to 10 minutes where Miami took control for a

00:42:08.309 --> 00:42:11.369
while. Well, they were taking control, but they're

00:42:11.369 --> 00:42:14.619
kind of holding... playing around the horseshoe

00:42:14.619 --> 00:42:18.239
looking for you know cracks it seemed it seemed

00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.880
honestly it seemed like their opportunities were

00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.739
almost well one they had a few that were just

00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:29.500
like clearly that's a messy Sergio Jordi situation

00:42:29.500 --> 00:42:32.639
right Suarez they just boom boom boom boom boom

00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:34.019
that's gonna happen you're gonna have five or

00:42:34.019 --> 00:42:39.300
six of those match but from a full like their

00:42:39.300 --> 00:42:43.260
full midfield you can't Like you said earlier,

00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:48.019
did DePaul do anything? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Except

00:42:48.019 --> 00:42:51.619
for the few magical moments from the global icons

00:42:51.619 --> 00:42:54.599
of the sport because Messi sucked them in from

00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:56.800
Barcelona, like from his Barcelona experience,

00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:02.239
right? So cathartic. Except for them. They have

00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.219
no identity. There's no – it was just almost

00:43:06.219 --> 00:43:09.099
– oh shit, they just put something together and

00:43:09.099 --> 00:43:11.000
we had to react to it. They used to. They used

00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.539
to have young players that were really good and

00:43:13.539 --> 00:43:16.420
up and coming and they kind of let them go to

00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:18.460
bring in more of Messi's friends this season.

00:43:18.619 --> 00:43:23.119
And I think last year they seemed like a stronger

00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.860
team. One trophy, right? Isn't that League's

00:43:25.860 --> 00:43:29.659
Cup two years ago? Yeah. Without Suarez. Because

00:43:29.659 --> 00:43:31.619
they lost to Houston in the Open. Was it the

00:43:31.619 --> 00:43:34.679
Open Cup that they lost to Houston? Houston,

00:43:34.820 --> 00:43:37.909
yeah. I believe you're right. I believe you're

00:43:37.909 --> 00:43:41.210
right. Yeah. I'm 87 .3%. That's about where I

00:43:41.210 --> 00:43:44.230
am. I'm sure you're right. But Busquets wasn't

00:43:44.230 --> 00:43:47.630
with Messi in 2023, right? It was last year.

00:43:47.909 --> 00:43:52.670
Yeah. He was sober when Jordi Alba came and Busquets.

00:43:52.710 --> 00:43:56.090
I don't remember when they all came. Regardless.

00:43:58.409 --> 00:44:03.840
Yeah. So. They seemed like they were chasing

00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.420
our ass. They never seemed like they were in

00:44:06.420 --> 00:44:09.260
control of the match at any single point. Just

00:44:09.260 --> 00:44:13.639
regarding their 65 -35 possession. Yeah, so like

00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:19.820
in the 39th minute, 40th minute, we hit the post.

00:44:22.219 --> 00:44:26.019
Who was it? It was Ferreira. Ferreira makes a

00:44:26.019 --> 00:44:30.059
beautiful move. It just beats. It's a back. Yeah.

00:44:30.139 --> 00:44:32.380
Back right knee of the keeper too. Yeah. If it

00:44:32.380 --> 00:44:35.519
had been, if it had deflected a little bit more

00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.039
towards his butt, it might've gone right off

00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:38.880
him back into the goal, but it just missed it.

00:44:38.940 --> 00:44:40.559
Well, the same thing you say about the post.

00:44:40.699 --> 00:44:43.480
Yeah. An inch here, an inch there on his ass

00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.519
or on the post. It goes back in the net. For

00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.460
all the people saying, well, you know, Messi

00:44:49.460 --> 00:44:51.199
could have had a goal. Allende could have had

00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.480
a goal. I mean, Ferreira could have had a goal.

00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.480
Man, Nick, I know you're tired, but you got to

00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.420
stop the yawning. You're going to put us all

00:44:57.420 --> 00:45:00.519
to sleep. I've been up since 1 in the morning.

00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.719
Yeah. I'm sorry. So let's fast forward to the

00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:11.239
42nd minute. Let's do it. Messi draws a foul.

00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:16.480
Or I'm sorry, Messi doesn't draw the foul. Bright

00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:23.820
draws the foul. Yannick. Yeah. Yeah. And so.

00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:28.780
Actually, no, I guess it was Messi. Yeah, it

00:45:28.780 --> 00:45:30.780
was Messi that drives the foul. So it's about

00:45:30.780 --> 00:45:34.579
30 yards out. Messi's going to take a shot, a

00:45:34.579 --> 00:45:37.039
free kick from the top of the box. So if you

00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.099
watch this at 42 minutes and 30 seconds. That

00:45:40.099 --> 00:45:46.079
was like 40 to 45 yards out. I remember because

00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:47.960
you spoiled the opportunity, so I was really

00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.800
focused on it. I'm like, oh, this can't be the

00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.760
free kick that he's talking about. I was like,

00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.250
oh. i was expecting a direct free kick that hits

00:45:54.250 --> 00:45:57.449
your daughter in the face based on this based

00:45:57.449 --> 00:46:00.329
on the because because all our listeners know

00:46:00.329 --> 00:46:02.550
aaron doesn't watch anything live and but of

00:46:02.550 --> 00:46:04.869
course we have our little tree tried you tried

00:46:04.869 --> 00:46:07.369
to watch it live but i did try to watch it getting

00:46:07.369 --> 00:46:10.690
called into work literally my hotel said someone

00:46:10.690 --> 00:46:13.610
crazy is needs to be evicted and i had to help

00:46:13.610 --> 00:46:16.340
them the moment a sauce i scored Literally text

00:46:16.340 --> 00:46:18.880
said now, not a timestamp. It said, N O W. At

00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:22.460
least you saw the text. I did. I saw it jumped

00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:25.019
up, went to text you guys saw now there's a crazy

00:46:25.019 --> 00:46:27.860
person and pause the whole game for about 30

00:46:27.860 --> 00:46:31.699
minutes. So go ahead, Nick. So messy. It's going

00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:35.739
to take a kick. He sends it from 45 yards out.

00:46:36.380 --> 00:46:39.380
Yeah, it is. It is further back than I thought,

00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:44.829
you know? And then, well, Well, the free kick

00:46:44.829 --> 00:46:47.829
itself, because he gets like 10 yards of run

00:46:47.829 --> 00:46:50.230
up because it's a quick one -two back to him.

00:46:51.190 --> 00:46:55.590
And he puts it wide, and it comes right at me,

00:46:55.650 --> 00:46:58.690
and I knock it away. I parry it away from the

00:46:58.690 --> 00:47:03.449
woman standing next to me. So I just want it

00:47:03.449 --> 00:47:07.869
to be on the record that I made a save on a messy

00:47:07.869 --> 00:47:10.889
free kick. So I just want to make that very,

00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:13.900
very clear. um you know because it's all about

00:47:13.900 --> 00:47:18.460
me today and i tried to muddy the waters as much

00:47:18.460 --> 00:47:21.059
as possible before you got any credit of doing

00:47:21.059 --> 00:47:23.880
anything now apparently the guy but it's on camera

00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:27.360
you did it the guy behind me was wearing those

00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:33.679
um one of those ray -ban camera glasses yes oh

00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.860
yeah yeah the meadows yeah so so there's a chance

00:47:36.860 --> 00:47:40.059
i might i might have a video in the coming days

00:47:40.059 --> 00:48:16.400
or two Or support science. Yeah. Yeah. These

00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.800
are professional. Yeah, like I was the first

00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.460
thing to touch it from his foot. So, I mean,

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.099
it's not like the power was absorbed and it was

00:48:27.099 --> 00:48:30.219
deflected. It was so it's a straight on shot.

00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:40.170
I mean, yeah, keep going. I'm not going there.

00:48:41.730 --> 00:48:47.170
I'm drafting our show notes as you speak. What

00:48:47.170 --> 00:48:51.030
did Nicholas do to Messi? Welcome to Seattle.

00:48:51.269 --> 00:48:56.789
Nicholas was fondling Messi's balls. The hospitality.

00:49:03.369 --> 00:49:05.949
Oh, man. There's going to be a bullet point.

00:49:07.680 --> 00:49:14.480
The group discusses Messi's balls. Gargled him

00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:21.780
in his mouth and spit it out. Okay. Halftime.

00:49:22.179 --> 00:49:28.800
Okay. A break in the show. I have one question

00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:33.360
for you. God damn it. We know there were shenanigans.

00:49:34.019 --> 00:49:37.039
We know there were shenanigans. At the end of

00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.159
the game, we know there was a fight. And in pieces

00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.659
of flair. I... Office space joke. I know, I know.

00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:48.760
You know, I think we're going to have to come

00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.739
back to what I saw at halftime because it directly

00:49:51.739 --> 00:49:54.119
correlates to what happened at the end of the

00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.519
game. So, spoiler alert. Stick around, kiddos.

00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.639
We'll get to that in the second half of this

00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:05.139
show. So, Nicholas is going to start the second

00:50:05.139 --> 00:50:06.500
half of the show on whatever the hell you're

00:50:06.500 --> 00:50:11.480
talking about. Right? Maybe. Or if we want to

00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:12.820
talk about it at the end of the game when the

00:50:12.820 --> 00:50:15.300
fight actually happens. No, if you want to tie

00:50:15.300 --> 00:50:18.800
it together, this is a perfect opportunity. Let's

00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.500
listen to the second half of the show. Let's

00:50:21.500 --> 00:50:49.110
do it. Oh no, I'm in Delaware. Hey everybody,

00:50:49.269 --> 00:50:51.650
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00:50:51.750 --> 00:50:54.130
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00:50:54.269 --> 00:50:57.230
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00:50:57.230 --> 00:50:59.489
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00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:13.639
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00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:34.980
And we're back. Yeah, listen to me. Join the

00:52:34.980 --> 00:52:38.280
Patreon. We love you guys. Before the break,

00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:42.320
we had a little tease from Nicholas, who, based

00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.320
on his position in the crowd, was able to see

00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.119
something that maybe some of us could not see.

00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:48.780
And so can you tell us what it was you were going

00:52:48.780 --> 00:52:51.000
to tell us? Because this sounds like breaking

00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.860
news to me. Yeah. So at the end of the first

00:52:54.860 --> 00:52:57.380
half, I saw that the Sounders were winning 1

00:52:57.380 --> 00:53:07.890
-0 and beating Miami. Breaking news. Yep. so

00:53:07.890 --> 00:53:11.190
as as the as the teams were you know the whistle

00:53:11.190 --> 00:53:13.250
blows and everyone's clearing the sidelines heading

00:53:13.250 --> 00:53:18.190
towards the locker room i see um i see sounders

00:53:18.190 --> 00:53:20.849
director security gene ramirez the same one who

00:53:20.849 --> 00:53:26.510
later on gets spit on by by luis suarez there's

00:53:26.510 --> 00:53:29.010
there's this shoving match that's going on and

00:53:29.010 --> 00:53:32.659
and miami Miami officials are getting their fingers

00:53:32.659 --> 00:53:35.460
in Sounders' faces, and everyone's kind of getting

00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:39.619
a little heated. And then as people are going

00:53:39.619 --> 00:53:42.840
to the locker room, Gene is kind of isolated

00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:46.900
from everyone else, and the Miami people are

00:53:46.900 --> 00:53:51.179
right in his grill and just very much just like...

00:53:51.389 --> 00:53:55.369
berating him for for something in my head i kind

00:53:55.369 --> 00:53:57.630
of laughed i'm like what did he go up to did

00:53:57.630 --> 00:54:00.170
he try to go up to leonel messi and ask for a

00:54:00.170 --> 00:54:02.869
jersey like what like what the fuck like because

00:54:02.869 --> 00:54:06.190
whatever whatever happened there were immediate

00:54:06.190 --> 00:54:12.190
and swift response from inner miami so really

00:54:12.190 --> 00:54:15.710
interesting after the game to see these reports

00:54:15.710 --> 00:54:20.829
of what actually caused the the fighting um and

00:54:20.829 --> 00:54:25.489
to see that he was involved so yeah and and crazy

00:54:25.489 --> 00:54:28.949
watching the video and seeing suarez spit uh

00:54:28.949 --> 00:54:32.250
taylor twelman shared like an angle that was

00:54:32.250 --> 00:54:34.969
not on tv that is so obvious what he did and

00:54:34.969 --> 00:54:38.869
just in the whole time i think the video i showed

00:54:38.869 --> 00:54:41.690
you from the broadcast like i i mean you can

00:54:41.690 --> 00:54:44.309
see it i slowed it down and there was just it

00:54:44.309 --> 00:54:47.989
just splattered on him right it couldn't be more

00:54:47.989 --> 00:54:50.079
clear But, but he's blocked partially from the

00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.900
other angle. You see him pull back and then like,

00:54:52.900 --> 00:54:55.940
Oh, like the full hockey situation. Yeah. So

00:54:55.940 --> 00:54:58.139
it was bad. And then, and then watching, you

00:54:58.139 --> 00:55:00.440
know, on the post game show, they showed that

00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.000
they break down the fight and just talk about

00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:04.719
how it's all Miami doing it and throwing the

00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.320
punches. And yeah, Reagan grabbed a guy and threw

00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:12.780
him off one of her coaches. Yeah. Yeah, John

00:55:12.780 --> 00:55:16.199
Bell did his best defending at the end of the

00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.039
game when he didn't even get the feature in the

00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:22.960
game. Yeah. He played sporting Kansas City's

00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.059
goalie and body slammed somebody. No, no, I got

00:55:26.059 --> 00:55:28.659
to say, though, that was in full defense. Like,

00:55:28.659 --> 00:55:31.579
literally in defense. Like, the players were

00:55:31.579 --> 00:55:34.369
getting... they were getting sounders like we're

00:55:34.369 --> 00:55:37.090
not gonna start shit but we will finish it yeah

00:55:37.090 --> 00:55:39.590
and they were they were trying to go to obed

00:55:39.590 --> 00:55:41.230
they were getting in his face they were shoving

00:55:41.230 --> 00:55:43.530
him and he was just laughing he was like oh that's

00:55:43.530 --> 00:55:48.179
so humiliating getting literally like An elbow

00:55:48.179 --> 00:55:51.039
up in his throat. It looked like Luis Suarez

00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.539
tried to pull the whole, I'm going to grab you

00:55:53.539 --> 00:55:56.280
by the scruff of your neck, like that thing.

00:55:56.340 --> 00:55:59.199
And Obed kind of reaches around, grabs his hand,

00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:01.460
pulls it away. He's like, old dog, I just beat

00:56:01.460 --> 00:56:07.000
you. You can't carry me anywhere. It's like when

00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.840
you see your dad get beat up by someone, then

00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.340
it's just all done. There's no respect anymore.

00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.760
I think that was some comedian did a bit about

00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.239
that. I don't know. It's just, I think there

00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.340
is going to be something though. Like think,

00:56:19.340 --> 00:56:21.420
think about this. If you're, if this was our

00:56:21.420 --> 00:56:23.880
club and they just performed like this after

00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.239
a match, right. Wouldn't you want a respectful

00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:30.179
departure? Right. We got to the final. Great.

00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.579
Like, like there's only one other team that got

00:56:32.579 --> 00:56:37.860
here and they won. I mean, like, like I have

00:56:37.860 --> 00:56:40.320
yet, I have not seen a mad, like even Portland

00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:42.619
matches. Like we don't see this kind of like.

00:56:43.190 --> 00:56:47.969
There was clear punches thrown. Obviously, Suarez

00:56:47.969 --> 00:56:49.750
is going to get the headlines with his spit.

00:56:49.889 --> 00:56:52.650
There was multiple punches thrown by other players

00:56:52.650 --> 00:56:54.989
that I have yet to name. The frustrations were

00:56:54.989 --> 00:56:58.869
high. Which is weird, honestly. I think it's

00:56:58.869 --> 00:57:02.010
really weird that it was that... I don't know.

00:57:02.469 --> 00:57:05.929
They erupted that much. The halftime thing that

00:57:05.929 --> 00:57:08.710
you mentioned, I think, is key. But it still

00:57:08.710 --> 00:57:14.590
seems weird. There's no... We don't have a history

00:57:14.590 --> 00:57:16.750
with this club. We literally have yet to see

00:57:16.750 --> 00:57:20.929
Messi in Seattle, except for 2009. And 2016,

00:57:21.230 --> 00:57:25.110
the Copa America Centenario. Okay. This was the

00:57:25.110 --> 00:57:27.170
third time I've seen Messi, you know, in person.

00:57:30.309 --> 00:57:35.570
So rich, Cameron. Yeah, I am. Me, the teacher.

00:57:36.289 --> 00:57:40.659
Sorry, sorry. Had to do it, had to do it. God,

00:57:40.699 --> 00:57:43.219
I wish. God, I wish I didn't have $100 ,000 of

00:57:43.219 --> 00:57:46.780
student loans. That would be just amazing. Vote

00:57:46.780 --> 00:57:52.159
for Biden. Nick wants to go to bed. All right.

00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:56.059
Yeah, so we'll keep going. So it settled 1 -0

00:57:56.059 --> 00:57:58.239
a lot longer than I was expecting, to be honest.

00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:00.900
I thought someone, one of these teams was finally

00:58:00.900 --> 00:58:03.960
going to put in a goal. And Miami had great chances.

00:58:04.219 --> 00:58:08.760
Yeah, Messi shoots one over the top on a tremendous.

00:58:10.569 --> 00:58:13.610
He ran around. Wait, Messi went full over the

00:58:13.610 --> 00:58:15.889
top? Did he put the trucker's hat backwards and

00:58:15.889 --> 00:58:19.730
go Lincoln Hawk? Did he have the armband thing?

00:58:19.929 --> 00:58:23.190
Just kind of pumping iron. There was kind of

00:58:23.190 --> 00:58:26.570
that essence from them, actually. It seemed like

00:58:26.570 --> 00:58:28.730
there was three of them that could possibly score

00:58:28.730 --> 00:58:30.730
a goal, and that was it. And they were trying

00:58:30.730 --> 00:58:34.409
really, really, really hard to do it. And they

00:58:34.409 --> 00:58:37.489
almost did. The ball almost knocked out Roma.

00:58:37.710 --> 00:58:41.889
Breaking news. Aaron describes how to play soccer

00:58:41.889 --> 00:58:46.269
for dummies. No, they were trying too hard. But,

00:58:46.309 --> 00:58:49.670
I mean, Suarez, beautiful pass through to Messi.

00:58:49.750 --> 00:58:53.269
Messi didn't take the first lesson of Pub League,

00:58:53.389 --> 00:58:55.989
which is boobs over ball, and just kicks it over

00:58:55.989 --> 00:58:59.349
the top, immediately sends it flying. There's

00:58:59.349 --> 00:59:02.989
actually commentary from live, you watching it,

00:59:03.070 --> 00:59:06.230
and they were... Actually, it was post -match.

00:59:06.269 --> 00:59:07.369
I think it was post -match. I think it was a

00:59:07.369 --> 00:59:10.769
Sasha question. Could be wrong. There's obviously

00:59:10.769 --> 00:59:12.650
three other people. It was either Sasha or Bradley

00:59:12.650 --> 00:59:16.309
Wright Phillips. But they were saying you could

00:59:16.309 --> 00:59:18.829
see in that shot. Two people who look very similar.

00:59:19.110 --> 00:59:22.510
Easy to mistake. I was listening. I was listening.

00:59:22.869 --> 00:59:26.070
The video. So, wait, wait, wait. Anyway, anyway,

00:59:26.210 --> 00:59:27.469
they were saying that. Two people who were listening.

00:59:27.570 --> 00:59:32.820
What is British? What is happening? alcohol and

00:59:32.820 --> 00:59:35.639
four hours later okay okay i'm sorry a fucking

00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:41.019
break i i i'm in i'm in a loopy mood i'm on a

00:59:41.019 --> 00:59:44.000
very great i don't hear or see color or culture

00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:48.500
everyone is just the i've just shut shut the

00:59:48.500 --> 00:59:53.239
fuck up basically they just said it was clear

00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:55.800
that messy was it was almost a frustrated like

00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:58.079
i and that's why i think it was bradley wright

00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.650
phillips because it was like as a striker That's

01:00:01.650 --> 01:00:05.610
an easy – you know you're redirecting the shot

01:00:05.610 --> 01:00:08.550
in. You're not swinging through it. He swung

01:00:08.550 --> 01:00:11.110
through it and it launched over the crossbar.

01:00:11.550 --> 01:00:15.170
And that – as much connection he has with Jordy

01:00:15.170 --> 01:00:18.909
and Sergio and Suarez. I believe that was Jordy

01:00:18.909 --> 01:00:22.510
on the one -two. No, that was Suarez. It was

01:00:22.510 --> 01:00:24.969
Suarez. It was Suarez. Jordy is usually who it

01:00:24.969 --> 01:00:28.889
is. Yeah. It was like – you could see he's swinging

01:00:28.889 --> 01:00:31.409
through the ball. instead of just redirecting

01:00:31.409 --> 01:00:33.929
it, which there's one play in the world, you

01:00:33.929 --> 01:00:36.510
know, 99 out of a hundred times in that moment,

01:00:36.590 --> 01:00:39.550
he's, he's guiding it in. He decided to just

01:00:39.550 --> 01:00:41.510
fucking launch it. Got it. Got to give credit

01:00:41.510 --> 01:00:43.369
to Andy Thomas though, because he was in the

01:00:43.369 --> 01:00:45.150
right position to make him have to think about

01:00:45.150 --> 01:00:47.389
it in that moment there. He couldn't just tap

01:00:47.389 --> 01:00:49.849
it in. He had, he had to direct it off center,

01:00:49.949 --> 01:00:52.909
probably to the right. Can I say right now, because

01:00:52.909 --> 01:00:55.150
we have not had a consistent episodes of three

01:00:55.150 --> 01:00:57.730
of us, and this is pretty much the last two months.

01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:01.679
I am so comfortable with Andy Thomas moving forward.

01:01:01.780 --> 01:01:06.139
And I, and I think, I think it's Schmetzer's.

01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:09.940
This is his tournament is just made it such an

01:01:09.940 --> 01:01:14.219
easy decision moving forward. Yeah. Fry should

01:01:14.219 --> 01:01:17.340
be our MLS keeper moving forward. And in case

01:01:17.340 --> 01:01:22.230
there's any wobbles in any direction. Injury

01:01:22.230 --> 01:01:25.389
-wise, performance -wise, we know we have a quality

01:01:25.389 --> 01:01:29.070
backup, but this was his, and he was stuck to

01:01:29.070 --> 01:01:35.949
his word for Andrew. This is a very comfortable

01:01:35.949 --> 01:01:40.309
transition. We've had four goalkeepers. We've

01:01:40.309 --> 01:01:42.289
had four goalkeepers. I think there is something

01:01:42.289 --> 01:01:44.590
to be said for the fact, though, that Fry this

01:01:44.590 --> 01:01:46.429
past week, and we talked about it in the Ultras

01:01:46.429 --> 01:01:49.969
episode most recently, but he was talking about...

01:01:51.210 --> 01:01:53.409
It's time to think about whether or not it's

01:01:53.409 --> 01:01:55.630
time to retire and how much work it is. He's

01:01:55.630 --> 01:01:58.610
not saying he's going to retire, but this is

01:01:58.610 --> 01:02:02.929
a guy who, when Andy's out there, is still a

01:02:02.929 --> 01:02:04.949
leader, still a captain, and still trying to

01:02:04.949 --> 01:02:06.969
help us win. So I don't think it matters who's

01:02:06.969 --> 01:02:09.210
in goal. You know who needs to retire? Tommy

01:02:09.210 --> 01:02:14.030
Dutra. No. No, I don't mean in a bad way. I meant

01:02:14.030 --> 01:02:17.389
Stephen Fry can just take his reins. Stephen

01:02:17.389 --> 01:02:19.460
Fry is not going to move anywhere. The longer

01:02:19.460 --> 01:02:22.000
Tommy Dutra is here, the longer we'll have a

01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.460
great goalkeeper coaching history. No, stop.

01:02:26.019 --> 01:02:30.440
A whole wine cellar and water for property. He's

01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.940
never allowed to retire. He's never allowed to

01:02:32.940 --> 01:02:36.039
retire. Earlier this year, he spent some time

01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.900
in Germany upgrading his coaching license and

01:02:38.900 --> 01:02:42.219
learning new stuff. So he's still adding his

01:02:42.219 --> 01:02:48.119
repertoire. As any good drummer of... Rock and

01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:53.199
roll does. They stick around forever. So let's

01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:56.619
fast forward then to the Allende miss, which

01:02:56.619 --> 01:03:04.079
Thomas was there and made him go wide, but that

01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:07.239
is one of the easiest goals you will have as

01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:09.380
a forward, especially a forward of his quality.

01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:15.679
Yes and no. I mean, he's curling. He's trying

01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:17.380
to wrap his... He's wrapping his foot around

01:03:17.380 --> 01:03:22.800
it. Yeah, but all he has to do is tap it towards

01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:26.000
the goal. It didn't have to curl that much. And

01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:30.679
it didn't curl at all. It curled around the outside

01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.940
of the post. It definitely curled. That's one

01:03:34.940 --> 01:03:38.280
that goes in every time. No, I'm trying to give

01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:43.500
him some... I'll fuck that shit up. Oh, sure.

01:03:43.619 --> 01:03:46.780
I would too. Which, by the way, I scored my first

01:03:46.780 --> 01:03:53.639
ever full... Like a real solid soccer goal? Yeah,

01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.599
yeah. I scored my first ever goal today in public.

01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:01.539
So I know what it feels like to be Paul Rothrock

01:04:01.539 --> 01:04:07.300
today. Another local boy done good scoring goals

01:04:07.300 --> 01:04:10.489
for his team. Yeah, no, that was a tough miss.

01:04:10.690 --> 01:04:12.130
I mean, it was just a tough miss. That's what

01:04:12.130 --> 01:04:16.030
it was. And then those two moments felt like

01:04:16.030 --> 01:04:17.389
those were the breaking points for them. It was

01:04:17.389 --> 01:04:19.969
like, it felt like the messy miss, he kind of

01:04:19.969 --> 01:04:22.849
like cracked, his brain cracked. And then, and

01:04:22.849 --> 01:04:24.889
then the Indian miss, it was just like, oh God,

01:04:25.030 --> 01:04:27.690
this is not gonna, this isn't happening. And

01:04:27.690 --> 01:04:30.829
that's where I feel like it's just be the better

01:04:30.829 --> 01:04:35.949
person slash club. Just be the, everything will

01:04:35.949 --> 01:04:39.630
work out for you in the long run. And that's

01:04:39.630 --> 01:04:44.989
what we're doing. The assholes miss the point

01:04:44.989 --> 01:04:46.869
blank shot because they're not supposed to win.

01:04:47.269 --> 01:04:53.710
The good guys are. Nick's falling asleep. A little

01:04:53.710 --> 01:05:04.820
bit. Then he must talk. I am trying to. He fell

01:05:04.820 --> 01:05:08.900
asleep again. This is riveting. The riveting

01:05:08.900 --> 01:05:13.059
stuff here. Riveting stuff. I have literally

01:05:13.059 --> 01:05:16.739
been up since it's 11 o 'clock at night. I've

01:05:16.739 --> 01:05:18.480
been up since one o 'clock in the morning. You've

01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:21.440
been up 21 hours. And I, and you and I went to

01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:23.619
the storm game last night. So I got like two

01:05:23.619 --> 01:05:26.239
hours of sleep last night. Yeah. You should have

01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:27.719
skipped that and gone. It sounds like a bunch

01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:30.239
of my faults. Here's the biggest thing. Sure

01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:33.099
is. I was given free tickets to Bumbershoot.

01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:35.380
But then I almost called you, but I didn't want

01:05:35.380 --> 01:05:36.659
to tempt you because I knew you would do it.

01:05:36.699 --> 01:05:39.639
The way we walked out of the arena walked us

01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:41.659
directly into Bumbershoot without having to scan

01:05:41.659 --> 01:05:44.099
any tickets. So you could have walked into Bumbershoot

01:05:44.099 --> 01:05:46.500
and just gone and watched concerts. But I was

01:05:46.500 --> 01:05:48.340
like, I can't call Nick. He's going to do it

01:05:48.340 --> 01:05:50.800
if I tell him. And then he's going to be absolutely

01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.000
crushed tomorrow during the game. So you had

01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.340
to get your sleep. I had to get something. Yeah.

01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:01.380
So the Sounders then decide, okay, we're going

01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:03.329
to put this game away. Fuck y 'all. By putting

01:06:03.329 --> 01:06:06.769
Georgie in, who immediately is running all over

01:06:06.769 --> 01:06:10.869
the place and draws a penalty that was at the

01:06:10.869 --> 01:06:13.030
80th -ish minute. Do you remember the exact time

01:06:13.030 --> 01:06:17.610
on that? 89 or shit. No, that was the Rothrock

01:06:17.610 --> 01:06:23.010
goal. Yeah. I think it was 84. I'm totally pulling

01:06:23.010 --> 01:06:25.530
from my brain. That is when the goal went in,

01:06:25.590 --> 01:06:27.449
so it was probably slightly before that. Oh,

01:06:27.469 --> 01:06:31.250
when Georgie comes into the game? Yeah. 78th

01:06:31.250 --> 01:06:34.960
minute. 78 reasons for so immediate impact on

01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:37.659
the game uh you could see them using him to run

01:06:37.659 --> 01:06:41.559
up the wing um and connecting with paul rothrock

01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:43.739
both of them just using full energy and it was

01:06:43.739 --> 01:06:46.139
just crazy so that's what actually what before

01:06:46.139 --> 01:06:50.440
the match i was like i i only think of either

01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.860
one of them on the on the pitch not both yeah

01:06:53.860 --> 01:06:57.340
i hadn't really thought of that before because

01:06:57.340 --> 01:07:01.340
what i love about rothrock is the the the zach

01:07:01.340 --> 01:07:03.900
scott which is just so fitting because he was

01:07:03.900 --> 01:07:06.719
the funny you mentioned fraser right yeah yeah

01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.960
yeah it's so fitting for the for it's just like

01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:12.539
we need a workman's like performance we need

01:07:12.539 --> 01:07:14.820
the heart of the sounders to be pumping through

01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:17.380
this field and what a perfect player to kick

01:07:17.380 --> 01:07:20.440
it off right and and rothrock is the epitome

01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:24.619
of of zach scott and just not the same position

01:07:24.619 --> 01:07:29.550
right This guy works his ass off, and I am fully

01:07:29.550 --> 01:07:33.710
convinced he's a starter. He just is a starter

01:07:33.710 --> 01:07:35.630
because you know what to expect from him. You

01:07:35.630 --> 01:07:38.610
give him the ball. I don't expect him to dance

01:07:38.610 --> 01:07:41.710
around anyone, but he makes the right passes,

01:07:41.730 --> 01:07:46.190
the right runs. I think it's key, and that was

01:07:46.190 --> 01:07:55.150
what led to this goal, right? Yeah. I mean, he...

01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.219
Bright goes to ground, which you never want to

01:07:58.219 --> 01:08:00.480
do as a defender. And at that point, Georgie

01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:04.179
knows he's won. Yeah. And he stops. He slows

01:08:04.179 --> 01:08:05.880
a little bit and allows himself to get taken

01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:08.440
out. Draws the penalty. And at that point, you

01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:11.619
know that it's – He got cooked. He got played.

01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.079
Yeah. And what I found was interesting is Miami

01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:17.899
was sitting there arguing with the ref. Christian

01:08:17.899 --> 01:08:20.739
had the ball. He held it the entire time. You

01:08:20.739 --> 01:08:24.600
caught that too. Yep. Christian had it. Uh, he

01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:26.079
was the one who looked like he was going to take

01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:29.020
the penalty. And then once Miami finally backs

01:08:29.020 --> 01:08:31.939
off, hands the ball to his brother. I called

01:08:31.939 --> 01:08:34.399
that. I called that, that Christian wasn't going

01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:36.560
to take the penalty that he was running interference.

01:08:37.020 --> 01:08:41.279
I did not have Alex on my bingo card. No. And

01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:45.619
for him, five or five and the way, but the way

01:08:45.619 --> 01:08:49.090
he took it. And then he just kind of. it was

01:08:49.090 --> 01:08:50.470
like one of those presidential looks where you

01:08:50.470 --> 01:08:52.069
look off into the distance here and you're like,

01:08:52.149 --> 01:08:54.229
yes, of course. You know what I mean? Like, and

01:08:54.229 --> 01:08:56.930
he ran down Paul Rothrock going nuts behind him.

01:08:57.270 --> 01:09:00.369
Like that moment, the way he was running with

01:09:00.369 --> 01:09:02.529
the other players going nuts behind him is going

01:09:02.529 --> 01:09:04.489
to be one of the most iconic moments in Sounders

01:09:04.489 --> 01:09:07.750
history. The way he looked in that moment was

01:09:07.750 --> 01:09:10.229
so incredible. By the way, if you rewatch the

01:09:10.229 --> 01:09:14.329
game. No, well, all of them, but, but Alex, Alex,

01:09:14.430 --> 01:09:16.590
his celebration was just like, of course it went

01:09:16.590 --> 01:09:19.210
in. And it's just like, looking up into the sky

01:09:19.210 --> 01:09:22.529
like ah it's funny because if you watch the the

01:09:22.529 --> 01:09:26.470
replay uh not the highlights but the replay you

01:09:26.470 --> 01:09:29.869
see christian hand the ball to alex and astari

01:09:29.869 --> 01:09:32.350
the goalie is walking towards christian to talk

01:09:32.350 --> 01:09:34.350
some more shit and get in his head then he kind

01:09:34.350 --> 01:09:35.829
of looks back because he doesn't have the ball

01:09:35.829 --> 01:09:38.590
and he has like this quick moment of confusion

01:09:38.590 --> 01:09:44.630
it's like got him i mean who else i was trying

01:09:44.630 --> 01:09:46.750
to think though who else would have taken it

01:09:46.750 --> 01:09:51.170
in that moment. Because I feel like you have

01:09:51.170 --> 01:09:53.130
the captain. Who's on the field? Danny Leyva.

01:09:53.590 --> 01:09:56.029
Danny Leyva. Probably not going to take it over

01:09:56.029 --> 01:10:00.930
Christian or Alex. You know, Osazi had come off.

01:10:00.989 --> 01:10:06.409
Jesus had come off at that point. Reagan. Reagan,

01:10:06.550 --> 01:10:08.050
possibly, but I don't think you're going to give

01:10:08.050 --> 01:10:10.750
it to a defender in that position. He scored

01:10:10.750 --> 01:10:14.229
like four or five anyway. Yeah, but Alex is the

01:10:14.229 --> 01:10:17.000
defender. Yeah, but he scores. I get what you

01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.260
mean. But here's the other thing is this entire

01:10:19.260 --> 01:10:22.560
tournament, when Christian's not on the field,

01:10:22.699 --> 01:10:26.039
Alex has been the captain. Yeah. Alex is our

01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:29.720
next captain. And Brian was fired up about that

01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:33.939
penalty. Yeah. And even more fired up when a

01:10:33.939 --> 01:10:38.859
few minutes later, Rothrock cuts across from

01:10:38.859 --> 01:10:41.100
the top of the box to the right, gets the ball.

01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:44.199
Gets it in between the defenders. Such a wonderful

01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:48.319
read, by the way. It wasn't for him. I've never

01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:50.939
seen Brian react like that. He just puts his

01:10:50.939 --> 01:10:53.020
hand on his head and turns away from the field

01:10:53.020 --> 01:10:57.619
in disbelief. I can't. The closest thing is,

01:10:57.739 --> 01:11:00.300
I think, like a Minnesota when he does the. He

01:11:00.300 --> 01:11:05.020
did the little kick. And then. Yeah, yeah. Was

01:11:05.020 --> 01:11:08.180
it Will Bruin? The bear, yeah, Will Bruin. That

01:11:08.180 --> 01:11:10.199
was, I loved that. The kick and the turn. It

01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:14.659
was just like this moment where Schmetzer is

01:11:14.659 --> 01:11:17.560
a local boy done good. I mean, they all, Rothroth

01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:22.260
has to be the youth. They all talk about, here's

01:11:22.260 --> 01:11:25.159
a guy who also was a local boy who played for

01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:27.579
the Sounders, now coaches the Sounders, who worked

01:11:27.579 --> 01:11:30.560
in construction and it shows. They said that

01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.100
in an interview this week. They know that they're

01:11:33.100 --> 01:11:36.600
following in his footsteps. And then we talked

01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:39.460
about earlier, Rothrock's celebration. He knew

01:11:39.460 --> 01:11:44.939
this moment, how incredible for a young man.

01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:50.260
from Seattle, grew up watching the Sounders,

01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:55.039
played on Seattle United, went to Lakeside to

01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:58.260
come out there and score the game, the goal that

01:11:58.260 --> 01:12:01.880
puts it away, in just an amazing fashion, and

01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.840
then to celebrate and hype up just everything

01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:11.409
in that moment. It's incredible. Well, I've been

01:12:11.409 --> 01:12:15.489
almost critical. I didn't want a Paul Rothrock

01:12:15.489 --> 01:12:18.109
on our starting 11. I didn't want one. Sorry.

01:12:18.369 --> 01:12:21.229
I want a flashy guy. I want a guy that's scoring

01:12:21.229 --> 01:12:23.890
a bunch of goals. And sure enough, he's fucking

01:12:23.890 --> 01:12:26.569
doing it, and he's supporting that. And that's

01:12:26.569 --> 01:12:29.350
what I'm trying to talk about Georgie five minutes

01:12:29.350 --> 01:12:31.409
ago, and I immediately went to Paul Rothrock

01:12:31.409 --> 01:12:34.130
because I'm like, you don't see them both on

01:12:34.130 --> 01:12:35.529
the field at the same time because they do the

01:12:35.529 --> 01:12:38.640
different thing. Georgie was in for like the

01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:42.039
moment that he caused. After that, he didn't

01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:44.840
do shit. It was not a Georgia game. He didn't

01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:46.460
need to, but it wasn't a Georgia game. Every

01:12:46.460 --> 01:12:49.520
time you see Georgie, it's a one after the other,

01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:51.779
down the side, down the side, down the side,

01:12:51.819 --> 01:12:55.180
down the side. You're pinning back. You may be

01:12:55.180 --> 01:12:57.920
pinning back some of Miami a little bit, even

01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.100
if he's not taking advantage of the fact that

01:13:01.100 --> 01:13:07.619
he is one pass away from getting back. One, pillow.

01:13:07.819 --> 01:13:12.079
Two, I don't think he was needed anymore. I think

01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:14.600
once Georgie pulled the penalty and we scored

01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:18.739
it, he's no longer necessary. I'm just so proud

01:13:18.739 --> 01:13:23.380
of Rothrock. And so slap myself in the fucking

01:13:23.380 --> 01:13:26.479
face for not seeing it earlier because it's been

01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:29.880
the same. He's been the exact same all season.

01:13:30.420 --> 01:13:34.000
It's just been so consistent. And then the level

01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.680
increased. And this is the highest level we've

01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:40.260
seen Rothrock perform. Yeah. I'm sorry. You're

01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:43.399
playing in a final against Messi. Yeah, I was

01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:47.500
in a packed home crowd. Seriously. Hearing the

01:13:47.500 --> 01:13:49.399
crowds and the calls. This is where you break.

01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:51.840
If you don't break, then I'm sold. Let's go.

01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:54.960
And you know what this feels like to me in some

01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.520
ways? Because of... because he went to UW, because

01:13:57.520 --> 01:13:59.960
we saw him become a captain and become - Because

01:13:59.960 --> 01:14:03.159
he's probably had a margarita at Linda's. No,

01:14:03.180 --> 01:14:06.939
it reminds - Seriously, that's cool. But it kind

01:14:06.939 --> 01:14:09.539
of reminds me of Christian's rise, except for

01:14:09.539 --> 01:14:13.619
Paul's younger. And Paul's more neighborhood

01:14:13.619 --> 01:14:16.119
versus not from here, went to school. I mean,

01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:17.859
Christian didn't come here from college, right?

01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:21.460
But yeah. Paul literally was like, God, it smells

01:14:21.460 --> 01:14:23.779
like cigarettes on 12th and Pine. Yeah, you're

01:14:23.779 --> 01:14:27.180
a 12 -year -old. Grow up, get used to it. This

01:14:27.180 --> 01:14:30.439
is where Seattleites have fun until we're priced

01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:34.960
out. Now we're in Greenwood. San Diego. Yeah.

01:14:35.779 --> 01:14:39.000
You got priced all the way to San Diego. That's

01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:46.460
horrible. Boeing, you better. But yeah, I mean,

01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:51.319
this was a moment. Let's talk about a moment.

01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:57.310
The ECS TIFO was so prescient. because if we

01:14:57.310 --> 01:14:59.909
had lost that match, you could have maybe quibbled

01:14:59.909 --> 01:15:03.489
with the idea, like, no, the team isn't built,

01:15:03.569 --> 01:15:05.550
it's bought. That was a balls -in -one -basket,

01:15:05.689 --> 01:15:09.409
Tifo. And hit it out of the fucking park. Right.

01:15:09.949 --> 01:15:14.789
Simple, clean, built, not bought. Yeah, which

01:15:14.789 --> 01:15:18.050
is what this team did. And all of us, I mean,

01:15:18.069 --> 01:15:21.420
I will say shout -out to Craig. I saw him before

01:15:21.420 --> 01:15:23.479
the match because, you know, I'm inside setting

01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:25.000
up. He came over and shook my hand and talked

01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.899
to me for a sec. Like, shout out to Craig again

01:15:27.899 --> 01:15:32.380
for being so privileged, Cameron. I am. Because

01:15:32.380 --> 01:15:35.819
for the last fucking 15 years, I have to be in

01:15:35.819 --> 01:15:38.720
the game three hours early. I wish someone else

01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:43.840
would do it. Please help me. I'm tired. But yeah,

01:15:44.539 --> 01:15:48.329
it was really cool to see him. And shout out,

01:15:48.350 --> 01:15:50.550
got to talk to or say hi to Stevie Zaccowani.

01:15:51.590 --> 01:15:55.489
You know, the Sounders organization is such a

01:15:55.489 --> 01:15:58.689
well -run organization from top to bottom inside

01:15:58.689 --> 01:16:03.109
the front office in terms of the employees. And

01:16:03.109 --> 01:16:06.930
I'm just I'm impressed what they can do and what

01:16:06.930 --> 01:16:09.010
they can put together. And part of that is that

01:16:09.010 --> 01:16:12.989
there are local people in there who it's not

01:16:12.989 --> 01:16:16.710
just they're not just. coming in from other places

01:16:16.710 --> 01:16:19.170
they are they have that seattle at this used

01:16:19.170 --> 01:16:21.050
to be a blue collar city before the tech people

01:16:21.050 --> 01:16:23.770
came and many of us still have that blue collar

01:16:23.770 --> 01:16:28.710
ethic and that's how it's done this is a team

01:16:28.710 --> 01:16:33.630
that has blue collar players who get it done

01:16:33.630 --> 01:16:37.630
too and i love this team i i'm very curious how

01:16:37.630 --> 01:16:39.810
long before nicholas just falls into his mind

01:16:39.810 --> 01:16:45.350
it's getting very close You know, we're not going

01:16:45.350 --> 01:16:48.090
to keep rolling on this, but listen. No, here's

01:16:48.090 --> 01:16:51.729
what we should do. You, Nick, say your piece.

01:16:51.989 --> 01:16:54.409
I am. I am. I was just about to say the same

01:16:54.409 --> 01:16:56.029
thing. Because Cameron and I can talk for another

01:16:56.029 --> 01:16:59.109
20 minutes. I think we should. But we want, everyone

01:16:59.109 --> 01:17:01.890
wants to hear your piece. Yes. Because you are

01:17:01.890 --> 01:17:06.090
the Nicholas Biela. Aw. Aw. And we all know you

01:17:06.090 --> 01:17:08.550
work your ass off. And we're all listening. the

01:17:08.550 --> 01:17:10.409
mailbag you're gonna you're gonna get to the

01:17:10.409 --> 01:17:14.869
mailbag today yeah um you've had enough mailbags

01:17:14.869 --> 01:17:18.029
in your your your history i mean first off i

01:17:18.029 --> 01:17:20.569
i i took a really good victory lap this year

01:17:20.569 --> 01:17:26.010
with with um with danny masovsky you know yeah

01:17:26.010 --> 01:17:28.050
you know i took a really good victory lap with

01:17:28.050 --> 01:17:31.529
that uh i want to take a little bit uh i want

01:17:31.529 --> 01:17:34.069
to extend that a little bit i've been constantly

01:17:35.369 --> 01:17:39.289
trying to be the voice of reason with just talking

01:17:39.289 --> 01:17:44.510
about how deep this team is and when you take

01:17:44.510 --> 01:17:51.930
on when you take on this miami team at full strength

01:17:51.930 --> 01:17:59.010
their full strength when you have one dp and

01:17:59.010 --> 01:18:01.770
not our full strength by the way that that no

01:18:01.770 --> 01:18:04.680
that's what i mean we have one dp Our other two

01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:11.079
DPs are injured. We have a left wing who's injured,

01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:15.300
who's a former DP in Paul Areola. You have a...

01:18:15.300 --> 01:18:18.640
Shout out to Paul for lifting the trophy with

01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.300
the fans after the game. Yeah, so I'm on the

01:18:21.300 --> 01:18:28.079
stage looking pretty good. Yeah, just seeing

01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:39.229
this... roster do this just so effortlessly hearing

01:18:39.229 --> 01:18:43.810
people on the train just talking about how how

01:18:43.810 --> 01:18:52.850
good the team looked um it's it's very um comforting

01:18:52.850 --> 01:18:56.949
not every game's gonna go our way but it's just

01:18:56.949 --> 01:18:59.270
it's just nice to get a win it's just nice to

01:18:59.270 --> 01:19:04.659
get a a final victory It's nice to remember we're

01:19:04.659 --> 01:19:11.300
the Seattle freaking Sounders. We average a final

01:19:11.300 --> 01:19:16.020
appearance every, you know, no, no, even less

01:19:16.020 --> 01:19:18.720
than that. A win every three years. Yeah, yeah.

01:19:19.539 --> 01:19:26.380
So just remember when I say there are pretty

01:19:26.380 --> 01:19:30.699
much 27 of the 30 teams would trade places with

01:19:30.699 --> 01:19:33.720
us in a heartbeat. You know, it's moments like

01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:37.420
this, moments like this where we are just completely,

01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:44.760
we deliver, we deliver. We don't always do it.

01:19:44.779 --> 01:19:48.840
We don't always do it the way we fans may want.

01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:53.039
We may want that flashy, flashy DP, but it doesn't

01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:55.739
always work. Sure, it can give you better percentages

01:19:55.739 --> 01:19:59.750
for some teams. But our proof of concept is there.

01:19:59.949 --> 01:20:03.649
And it's just enjoy the fucking ride. Because

01:20:03.649 --> 01:20:08.210
this has been a really good ride. Agree. Although,

01:20:08.250 --> 01:20:11.609
again, I always say, why not both? But it's not

01:20:11.609 --> 01:20:13.789
always that way. Because look at all the other

01:20:13.789 --> 01:20:16.289
teams that do spend thinking that it's going

01:20:16.289 --> 01:20:18.789
to get them there. But it doesn't. But they don't

01:20:18.789 --> 01:20:22.789
have our mindset on building from the academy

01:20:22.789 --> 01:20:26.090
up like we do. and we have had for a long time

01:20:26.090 --> 01:20:27.850
i mean when you say why not both what do you

01:20:27.850 --> 01:20:32.869
mean oh i mean rather than having a dp that makes

01:20:32.869 --> 01:20:35.369
2 .2 million who's injured all the time have

01:20:35.369 --> 01:20:37.829
one that makes six million that's even better

01:20:37.829 --> 01:20:41.149
yeah but that's the thing about injuries where

01:20:41.149 --> 01:20:43.649
are we where are we right now where are we right

01:20:43.649 --> 01:20:46.270
now oh i'm saying we would be in first place

01:20:46.270 --> 01:20:48.449
instead of fourth no this is not the conversation

01:20:48.449 --> 01:20:52.250
do we have a dp that makes 2 .2 million that's

01:20:52.250 --> 01:20:57.560
injured all the time Yeah, Jordan Morris. But

01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.340
he's not injured all the time. He's injured this

01:20:59.340 --> 01:21:04.060
year, last year. He played the most games in

01:21:04.060 --> 01:21:07.819
his career last year. So it's tough. And then

01:21:07.819 --> 01:21:10.600
he's not present when we win a final. It's like,

01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:12.539
is it a problem or is it a problem? I mean, shout

01:21:12.539 --> 01:21:14.300
out to Jordan for coming. He can only do it with

01:21:14.300 --> 01:21:16.039
one arm. I felt so bad for raising the trophy,

01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:18.920
though. He had to get help because he can't lift

01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:20.920
stuff. It's almost like I went and saw Hart.

01:21:23.850 --> 01:21:26.850
And nevermind. No, you did. You saw her. I saw

01:21:26.850 --> 01:21:28.689
her two weeks ago. It was fantastic. What I loved,

01:21:28.689 --> 01:21:30.289
what I loved about that. They're not the same.

01:21:30.529 --> 01:21:32.470
I talked about this in the alters episode was

01:21:32.470 --> 01:21:34.569
that you had mentioned them or you and I had

01:21:34.569 --> 01:21:36.010
mentioned them on the previous episode that they're

01:21:36.010 --> 01:21:37.850
coming in town. And then like a day later, it

01:21:37.850 --> 01:21:40.449
manifested into you getting to go see them. I

01:21:40.449 --> 01:21:44.689
mean, it was really cool. Audibly amazing. Yeah.

01:21:44.789 --> 01:21:49.989
Speaking of audibly amazing Sounders. I mean,

01:21:49.989 --> 01:21:53.149
it almost felt like. The game ended too soon.

01:21:53.250 --> 01:21:55.390
They blew that whistle like right at 90 minutes.

01:21:55.409 --> 01:22:00.270
It was 91. Yeah. It was so fast. That was super

01:22:00.270 --> 01:22:03.510
weird. However, I can tell based on the rules

01:22:03.510 --> 01:22:06.170
of the tournament, right? There's no, it would

01:22:06.170 --> 01:22:07.949
go right to penalties. There's no chance of it

01:22:07.949 --> 01:22:10.029
going to penalties. I was curious. Four or five

01:22:10.029 --> 01:22:13.609
minutes. If that is true for the final, because

01:22:13.609 --> 01:22:15.470
when they were doing the test clock beforehand,

01:22:15.710 --> 01:22:18.470
they were running it up to 108, 109. Okay. I'm

01:22:18.470 --> 01:22:23.570
just, I'm assuming it was because it was. At

01:22:23.570 --> 01:22:28.130
2 -0, do you let it happen? I'm always of the

01:22:28.130 --> 01:22:30.329
mind that you have to let the plate out because

01:22:30.329 --> 01:22:32.149
you never know what's going to happen. No one

01:22:32.149 --> 01:22:35.250
seemed to argue except for... No. No one argued

01:22:35.250 --> 01:22:38.510
except for Suarez. Suarez. And then the fight

01:22:38.510 --> 01:22:41.369
broke out. Yeah, there was some other shit. We

01:22:41.369 --> 01:22:42.890
don't need to get into that. It seemed nothing

01:22:42.890 --> 01:22:46.770
to do with the scoreline more of the... Once

01:22:46.770 --> 01:22:48.270
it ends, though, they bring out the stage, and

01:22:48.270 --> 01:22:51.010
Miami had to line up and walk through the Sounders

01:22:51.010 --> 01:22:53.630
players to accept their medals. It's so weird.

01:22:53.789 --> 01:22:55.989
They have this fight, and then they're kind of

01:22:55.989 --> 01:22:59.189
right next to each other, and very weird layout.

01:22:59.470 --> 01:23:01.449
It's perfect. I love it. But with that in mind,

01:23:01.550 --> 01:23:04.970
I am going to have to bounce. I love you guys,

01:23:05.149 --> 01:23:09.090
but I need to be able to be somewhat respectable

01:23:09.090 --> 01:23:11.949
for the morning. For the next episode. Oh, yeah.

01:23:12.090 --> 01:23:18.229
That's right. So in the end, how do you feel

01:23:18.229 --> 01:23:20.529
about all of this, this entire tournament, the

01:23:20.529 --> 01:23:24.949
Sounders as they are your piece? I hate the format

01:23:24.949 --> 01:23:27.630
of the League's Cup in that it's a cash grab.

01:23:27.710 --> 01:23:30.289
It's just straight up a cash grab. I don't like

01:23:30.289 --> 01:23:33.149
that. I like that. It means that instead of having

01:23:33.149 --> 01:23:38.560
four CONCACAF Champions Cup. uh positions we

01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.520
now have an extra three potentially on the table

01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:43.859
that's great because both of these last two seasons

01:23:43.859 --> 01:23:46.079
we've taken advantage of leagues cup to get ourselves

01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:51.439
in once direct directly today and last year because

01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:56.539
la or colorado and other teams qualified enough

01:23:56.539 --> 01:24:00.359
we got to back our way into the Champions League.

01:24:00.939 --> 01:24:02.579
So I love that because I want to be in Champions

01:24:02.579 --> 01:24:04.060
League. I want to go back to more Club World

01:24:04.060 --> 01:24:05.899
Cups. I want to be the best teams. I want to

01:24:05.899 --> 01:24:08.039
play the best teams in the world. To do that,

01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:15.479
you got to get through CONCACAF. The format of

01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:18.180
this has been my favorite of the three Leagues

01:24:18.180 --> 01:24:21.819
Cups. I love the group stage playing against

01:24:21.819 --> 01:24:24.619
nothing but Liga MX teams. Is this the fourth

01:24:24.619 --> 01:24:25.880
Leagues Cup, though, real quick? Because didn't

01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:30.210
we... This is the third one that's a full tournament.

01:24:30.310 --> 01:24:32.270
Then we had the small tournament where we made

01:24:32.270 --> 01:24:36.390
it to the final. I thought this was the second

01:24:36.390 --> 01:24:39.710
full one. I thought this was the second full

01:24:39.710 --> 01:24:42.270
one. Leon won. I'm pretty sure it's 23, 24, 25.

01:24:42.750 --> 01:24:47.649
Okay. We can put that one on Dan Boniface. Or

01:24:47.649 --> 01:24:54.189
anyone to correct us. I'm pretty sure Messi and...

01:24:54.850 --> 01:25:01.789
Miami won 23. Or is it 2022? It's three or four

01:25:01.789 --> 01:25:06.609
years. So it started in 2019, technically. I'm

01:25:06.609 --> 01:25:10.329
looking at it right now. The second edition was

01:25:10.329 --> 01:25:15.710
2021, 2022. So yeah, it's been around for long.

01:25:15.810 --> 01:25:19.729
So I'm pretty sure, let's see. We were not in

01:25:19.729 --> 01:25:22.649
that one. We were in the previous one. So yeah,

01:25:22.750 --> 01:25:25.789
2021 was the one I think we must have made it

01:25:25.789 --> 01:25:30.210
to the final. It was. Yeah, because we played

01:25:30.210 --> 01:25:33.250
Leon and then that was kind of like we made the

01:25:33.250 --> 01:25:36.989
final. We weren't in it in 2022. 2023, we lost.

01:25:37.149 --> 01:25:38.850
We got knocked out in the group stage. 2024,

01:25:39.149 --> 01:25:40.770
we advanced. Remember, we destroyed Los Angeles

01:25:40.770 --> 01:25:43.510
and we advanced because I was at a Mariners game

01:25:43.510 --> 01:25:44.850
that they won. Then I came and watched the end

01:25:44.850 --> 01:25:46.630
of that game. And then this year we won it, of

01:25:46.630 --> 01:25:50.279
course. Yeah. So, so with that in mind, Nick,

01:25:50.380 --> 01:25:51.779
before you leave though, I want to, I want to

01:25:51.779 --> 01:25:53.520
give you the stat because we talked about attendance.

01:25:54.100 --> 01:25:59.039
Not only was this the, the highest in least cup

01:25:59.039 --> 01:26:01.140
history, this was the highest attended soccer

01:26:01.140 --> 01:26:05.000
match in state history, beating out the 2019

01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:10.060
MLS cup by 40 people. And, and then a thousand,

01:26:10.300 --> 01:26:15.739
let's see, one 800. I think that math's out,

01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:20.539
7, 8, 9, 600, 580 or something different than

01:26:20.539 --> 01:26:26.539
2022 Champions Cup final. Nice. And we are undefeated.

01:26:26.539 --> 01:26:32.000
Earlier in the week, I had checked some things

01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:36.060
out and checked my records, and we had an unbeaten

01:26:36.060 --> 01:26:38.460
record of seven wins, no losses, and one draw,

01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:40.880
one playing at Lumen in front of 60 ,000 fans

01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:42.960
or more. Was the draw a regular season match?

01:26:43.630 --> 01:26:46.510
uh i think it was a portland match when we we

01:26:46.510 --> 01:26:52.229
expanded um uh it could have been casey keller's

01:26:52.229 --> 01:26:54.090
final match against san jose but i thought we

01:26:54.090 --> 01:26:56.350
won that i thought we won that we won that one

01:26:56.350 --> 01:27:03.409
yeah we did yeah but um but yeah so so just everyone

01:27:03.409 --> 01:27:05.869
showed up and it was great so yeah it's great

01:27:05.869 --> 01:27:09.470
history having it you know it's also great sleep

01:27:09.470 --> 01:27:14.609
so i do i do get about so um Thank you guys for

01:27:14.609 --> 01:27:19.189
a good evening, and I'm looking forward to hearing

01:27:19.189 --> 01:27:22.250
the mailbag answers from you guys. Oh, shit.

01:27:22.430 --> 01:27:25.750
Let's massage that mailbag. Yeah. Bye, Nick.

01:27:25.829 --> 01:27:31.029
Love you. Love you. Bye, Nick. Oof. I'm watching

01:27:31.029 --> 01:27:34.850
the Taylor Twelman is basically showing all the

01:27:34.850 --> 01:27:39.390
Miami. Oh, yeah. Sergio Buckets punched Obed

01:27:39.390 --> 01:27:42.229
right in the face. Oh, yeah, he did. It's wild.

01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:45.359
It's wild. So why don't we get to the mailbag

01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:48.399
here? Now that Nick's gone, let's get into the

01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:52.180
real stuff. Yeah, let's get to late night scuttlebutt.

01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:55.399
Real quick, before we get to that, we did have

01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:59.899
some scuttlebutt come from Chris Daniels, reporter.

01:28:00.380 --> 01:28:03.300
No shit. Said, well, I wasn't directed totally

01:28:03.300 --> 01:28:05.979
at it. We probably would. You got me all excited.

01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:09.319
Are we professional now? Of course we are. Let

01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:13.630
me get my badge. He asks, where does Brian Schmetzer

01:28:13.630 --> 01:28:16.649
rank in Seattle coaching history? Seattle coaching

01:28:16.649 --> 01:28:20.149
history. That's pretty general. 2016 MLS Cup

01:28:20.149 --> 01:28:23.470
champs, 2017 MLS Cup finalists, 2019 MLS Cup

01:28:23.470 --> 01:28:26.569
champs, 2020 MLS Cup finalists, 2022 CONCACAF

01:28:26.569 --> 01:28:28.890
Champions League winner, 2025 Leagues Cup winner,

01:28:29.050 --> 01:28:33.109
and playoffs in eight of his nine seasons in

01:28:33.109 --> 01:28:36.010
charge. So he's number two for me. Number two.

01:28:36.189 --> 01:28:38.430
Who are you putting him behind? Pete. Sorry.

01:28:38.630 --> 01:28:42.720
Pete Carroll? He has won Super Bowl. Economically,

01:28:42.939 --> 01:28:47.979
just historically, that's just. Interesting.

01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:51.420
That's what you compete with, right? Yeah. I

01:28:51.420 --> 01:28:54.159
mean, I think I put him past Pete. I think I

01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.439
still might have Don James ahead of him. See,

01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:02.760
all I'm going with is also what I've lived through.

01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:05.159
That's true. You were real little when that happened.

01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:09.119
Well, yeah, for Don James. But for Pete. But

01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:12.420
I have been fully involved in both Pete Carroll

01:29:12.420 --> 01:29:18.020
and both Ziggy's tenure and Schmetzer's. And

01:29:18.020 --> 01:29:20.420
I'm sorry, being on the front of the ferry coming

01:29:20.420 --> 01:29:23.100
across from Bainbridge on that night when we

01:29:23.100 --> 01:29:29.199
won the Super Bowl and seeing the city move in

01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:35.859
one direction down all the avenues and just...

01:29:36.300 --> 01:29:39.039
accepting it and walking into it and everyone's

01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:43.579
just happy i cannot beat that champion that was

01:29:43.579 --> 01:29:47.319
there every single individual in the city was

01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:52.560
all hugs no fight literally and i'm walking off

01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:55.960
the boat it was the most it was the most ethereal

01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:59.020
moment to be in the middle of puget sound and

01:29:59.020 --> 01:30:02.000
watching the city celebrate as that's all he

01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:09.029
has is that Yes. However, that did affect economically

01:30:09.029 --> 01:30:16.550
how we view one team, the Seahawks. Let's not

01:30:16.550 --> 01:30:20.829
be ignorant here. The Seahawks have more pull

01:30:20.829 --> 01:30:23.630
than the Sounders, right? Yeah, but they don't

01:30:23.630 --> 01:30:25.670
mean as much to me. I've been a season ticket

01:30:25.670 --> 01:30:27.489
holder of the Seahawks in 1989. That's not the

01:30:27.489 --> 01:30:29.229
question. And I still would rather. That's not

01:30:29.229 --> 01:30:31.270
the question. I mean, that is for me. That's

01:30:31.270 --> 01:30:35.069
for you. Okay. Okay. So I'm just saying. Based

01:30:35.069 --> 01:30:37.329
on doing everything though, Pete hasn't done

01:30:37.329 --> 01:30:39.989
it. He didn't, he, he won one Superbowl. Schmetzer's

01:30:39.989 --> 01:30:42.489
won two MLS cups. He's also won coffee cup champion.

01:30:42.590 --> 01:30:44.529
He's won more. So we're going to go under the

01:30:44.529 --> 01:30:46.609
covers. Then it's Schmetzer, right? Cause he

01:30:46.609 --> 01:30:48.989
was there from the beginning. And he also was

01:30:48.989 --> 01:30:53.130
there in the inception, essentially. What about

01:30:53.130 --> 01:30:56.090
George Carl? I guess he didn't ever win it. What

01:30:56.090 --> 01:30:59.680
about Lenny Wilkins? The first championship?

01:31:00.460 --> 01:31:06.760
Yeah. Give us some sort of foundation of a sports

01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:09.340
city. Lupinella belongs up there, but I don't

01:31:09.340 --> 01:31:13.220
think he can be. I think Lenny gives us the championship

01:31:13.220 --> 01:31:16.939
credibility. I think Lupinella gives us the come

01:31:16.939 --> 01:31:20.579
at me, I'll swing at you. We know how to beat

01:31:20.579 --> 01:31:24.560
people. The Storm, well, but they're midstream.

01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:28.420
They changed their coach, but yeah. So, yeah,

01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:31.100
I mean, either way, we're putting him at one

01:31:31.100 --> 01:31:34.960
or two. No, we're both putting him at two. No,

01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:37.140
he's definitely – I'm sorry, I've got to put

01:31:37.140 --> 01:31:40.220
one from a global standpoint. It's clear that

01:31:40.220 --> 01:31:43.800
it's Pete Carroll. No one knows who Brian Schmitzer

01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:46.680
is, and I hate to say that. That's a problem

01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:49.520
with Americans not liking soccer. And that's

01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:53.119
not my problem, but I do hate that. Everyone

01:31:53.119 --> 01:31:55.819
knows who Pete Carroll is. He knows what he's

01:31:55.819 --> 01:31:58.939
done for football. let alone Seattle football.

01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.979
And what he's done for this community, this city,

01:32:03.100 --> 01:32:06.119
this region, this state, it's pretty incredible.

01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.939
And I was there. And it was nuts. Which is interesting

01:32:10.939 --> 01:32:14.460
because to me, even though I love the Seahawks

01:32:14.460 --> 01:32:16.579
winning the Super Bowl, that moment is the difference

01:32:16.579 --> 01:32:18.979
between the 12th man and the 12s. And I can't

01:32:18.979 --> 01:32:21.000
stand the fucking 12s. They are everything that's

01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:22.640
wrong with football fans. Whereas the 12th man

01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:24.819
was everything that was right. That was when

01:32:24.819 --> 01:32:26.779
the bandwagon came around after that. Cause we

01:32:26.779 --> 01:32:30.600
were finally winners, but maybe the same can

01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:33.180
be said about the Sounders. I don't know, but

01:32:33.180 --> 01:32:35.279
I haven't noticed that. I don't think so because

01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:38.300
it's such, it is, we are, we are, we are a niche

01:32:38.300 --> 01:32:44.279
sport podcast. Like Stephen A. Smith is not listening

01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:46.520
to us. He should be. He should be. He should

01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:48.680
be. He should be. Well, now that Nick's asleep,

01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:53.649
I don't know. But let's get into this mailbag.

01:32:54.369 --> 01:33:00.069
Yeah, let's get in it. Let's see here. Boom.

01:33:00.189 --> 01:33:10.369
So all from tonight, it looks like. Favorite

01:33:10.369 --> 01:33:12.890
goal. Which of the three goals was your favorite?

01:33:14.189 --> 01:33:17.479
I'm going to have to go with Alex, too. I mean,

01:33:18.100 --> 01:33:20.939
one, it's the game winner, right? Yeah. But it

01:33:20.939 --> 01:33:26.420
is such a perfect pass. And I think Alex finally

01:33:26.420 --> 01:33:31.159
has a highlight. Actually, I don't even know.

01:33:31.260 --> 01:33:34.859
I can't say that definitively, but clearly I

01:33:34.859 --> 01:33:37.859
can say that for tonight. A lot of people were

01:33:37.859 --> 01:33:40.819
watching that goal. A lot of people were watching

01:33:40.819 --> 01:33:43.520
that goal. And it was kind of a car to make the

01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:46.560
path across. Yeah. Exactly. It was much harder

01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:49.000
to make the pass than it was to score the goal.

01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:55.260
And he is, with his backstory, with his national

01:33:55.260 --> 01:34:02.420
team decision, and detracting from being on the

01:34:02.420 --> 01:34:10.939
national team, you just assisted and scored in

01:34:10.939 --> 01:34:14.720
a match that's a final against Messi. I mean...

01:34:14.970 --> 01:34:17.050
That's just kind of what you write on your bingo

01:34:17.050 --> 01:34:19.250
card. And later scored a goal, too. Yeah, and

01:34:19.250 --> 01:34:21.510
later scored a goal. The reason why he was man

01:34:21.510 --> 01:34:22.989
of the match, which we'll get to. Well, that's

01:34:22.989 --> 01:34:24.369
what I mean. He scored a penalty. He had two

01:34:24.369 --> 01:34:27.710
assists. Like, what a fucking match for you.

01:34:29.310 --> 01:34:32.750
Did he have the assist on the Rothrock goal?

01:34:32.970 --> 01:34:36.789
Yeah. Wow. Yeah, because it bypassed. That's

01:34:36.789 --> 01:34:38.569
right. It didn't look like he was passing it

01:34:38.569 --> 01:34:42.090
to Rothrock, but Rothrock cut through. Rothrock

01:34:42.090 --> 01:34:45.659
put effort. Like that's the blue collar. Yeah.

01:34:46.579 --> 01:34:48.939
That's why for me it's the Roth Rock Bowl. For

01:34:48.939 --> 01:34:51.279
me, it's because that was the game that - Shoulder

01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:55.539
down, dig in, get it. It was like, it was Percy

01:34:55.539 --> 01:34:59.520
Harvin returning the - The cap on the match.

01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:02.560
Yeah. It was, we're going to win. And the way

01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.199
he celebrated and the way the team, I mean, to

01:35:06.199 --> 01:35:09.359
me, that was Roth Rock. That was his moment where

01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:11.890
he became the superstar. Somebody asked you this,

01:35:11.930 --> 01:35:15.369
just to sidetrack, to go back to Seahawks for

01:35:15.369 --> 01:35:19.350
a second. Yeah. You know that Percy's catch was

01:35:19.350 --> 01:35:21.909
on the 12 -yard line and it took 12 seconds to

01:35:21.909 --> 01:35:23.890
score, right? It did not. That's pretty crazy.

01:35:24.130 --> 01:35:26.529
It bounced. He caught it on the 12 -yard line.

01:35:26.569 --> 01:35:28.989
It took 12 seconds for him to score. 12th man.

01:35:29.409 --> 01:35:36.729
And the day before, didn't he punch Golden Tate

01:35:36.729 --> 01:35:39.069
and throw him in a garbage can? Definitely not

01:35:39.069 --> 01:35:40.489
the day before. I don't think it was the day

01:35:40.489 --> 01:35:42.449
before. I think it was. It was like the couple

01:35:42.449 --> 01:35:44.350
days before the game. No, I think it was the

01:35:44.350 --> 01:35:46.310
media week, but it doesn't matter. Oh, yeah.

01:35:46.890 --> 01:35:49.289
He had a black eye. I think Golden Tate had a

01:35:49.289 --> 01:35:51.189
black eye and didn't want to be present on media

01:35:51.189 --> 01:35:53.750
week. Yeah, but Golden Tate, they've been talking

01:35:53.750 --> 01:35:55.750
about it. Percy doesn't remember it the same

01:35:55.750 --> 01:35:58.489
way Golden Tate does. Because Percy's drunk and

01:35:58.489 --> 01:36:03.710
fun. It's fine. It doesn't matter. We won. Anyway.

01:36:04.250 --> 01:36:08.930
Okay, man of the match. Man of the match. Dan

01:36:08.930 --> 01:36:16.069
said, who do you have? Apple had Alex. Alex Diaz

01:36:16.069 --> 01:36:21.390
had Seattle Sounders as a whole. Lame. Alex Diaz.

01:36:21.390 --> 01:36:23.550
Come on. You can't be on Ultros and just say

01:36:23.550 --> 01:36:26.949
the team. You got to call him out in the next

01:36:26.949 --> 01:36:33.310
episode. I say Alex, too. Participation point.

01:36:33.729 --> 01:36:37.949
Yeah. It was a team game today. Everyone did

01:36:37.949 --> 01:36:41.050
their part. Locking down Messi, locking down

01:36:41.050 --> 01:36:43.390
those other players. Rodrigo didn't even seem

01:36:43.390 --> 01:36:45.630
like he was in the game because of it. But for

01:36:45.630 --> 01:36:49.329
you, we'll put it this way. Who had the biggest

01:36:49.329 --> 01:36:50.829
impact on the match for you? I think it's going

01:36:50.829 --> 01:36:53.970
to be Christian for me because I think he specifically

01:36:53.970 --> 01:37:01.090
made sure that Messi wasn't going to be a factor.

01:37:01.329 --> 01:37:02.529
There was a few times where he made Messi look

01:37:02.529 --> 01:37:05.319
old. Yeah. And that's not something you see from

01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:08.239
messy very often. What I, what I noticed there

01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:10.899
was specific times that he honed in when he was

01:37:10.899 --> 01:37:14.220
not one -on -one on messy. You could tell that

01:37:14.220 --> 01:37:17.260
that was not, he was just covering and he closed

01:37:17.260 --> 01:37:21.140
it down. Like if I don't do this, I lose my job.

01:37:21.619 --> 01:37:24.960
Hmm. Not that he would obviously. No, but like

01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:28.430
hit like the mentality. It was like full. And

01:37:28.430 --> 01:37:32.170
it was done with such pinpoint accuracy from

01:37:32.170 --> 01:37:35.949
a support standpoint that it was clear that that

01:37:35.949 --> 01:37:39.289
was a focus of his. And if your focus is shutting

01:37:39.289 --> 01:37:43.229
down Messi and you do it, you're my man of the

01:37:43.229 --> 01:37:47.649
match. Yeah. How could you not be? Yeah. Shut

01:37:47.649 --> 01:37:49.970
down Messi. Okay, you do it. You're man of the

01:37:49.970 --> 01:37:52.609
match. Best player in the fucking world. Second

01:37:52.609 --> 01:38:00.020
lowest rating on Foot Mob. Yeah. So 11 is goalkeeper.

01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:05.000
And Reed, Reed, Reed did a great job at times

01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:06.399
too. I mean, there's a few times where Messi

01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:09.479
got passed and he recovered, but he was on him

01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:11.920
a lot. Obed was on him a lot. There's more players

01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:14.720
on our team that actually stole the ball from

01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:17.399
Messi than there are players on their team that

01:38:17.399 --> 01:38:21.920
shot a goal, like a shot on goal. I do want to

01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:26.300
give credit. There was a play where Pedro was

01:38:26.300 --> 01:38:29.380
kind of lined up. and wasn't letting them take

01:38:29.380 --> 01:38:31.659
their kick. And then Messi came over and kind

01:38:31.659 --> 01:38:34.239
of got him to move away. And at first, Pedro

01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:36.579
was like, who is this? And looked over and saw

01:38:36.579 --> 01:38:39.060
it was Messi. And was like, oh. I noted that

01:38:39.060 --> 01:38:43.140
on my phone. It was that oh my God moment. Yeah,

01:38:43.180 --> 01:38:45.479
and then Messi gave him a thumbs up as they were

01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:47.539
walking away. Like, no, you're good. Because

01:38:47.539 --> 01:38:51.039
I'm sure Messi had heard people saying this week

01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:54.579
that here's this guy that it's Pedro's. You know,

01:38:54.619 --> 01:38:58.760
you grew up. It reminds me of when Steve Zaccowani

01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:01.680
had a chance to meet David Beckham, who was like

01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:03.340
his hero growing up, and then they played on

01:39:03.340 --> 01:39:06.260
the same field. Yeah, kind of. And his daughter

01:39:06.260 --> 01:39:09.180
gave him a Stevia jersey. Kind of, except that

01:39:09.180 --> 01:39:14.640
Pedro was supposed to be 10X Messi. Yeah, if

01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:16.979
he hadn't blown out his knee, he might be. So

01:39:16.979 --> 01:39:21.520
can you imagine that? Yeah. Not even Steve Zaccowani.

01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:26.600
No offense to Steve. Love Steve. Steve was going

01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:28.560
to be the next Landon Donovan if he didn't blow

01:39:28.560 --> 01:39:34.300
it. That's adorable compared to an Argentinian

01:39:34.300 --> 01:39:38.779
growing up in that structure with Messi as your

01:39:38.779 --> 01:39:41.659
talisman. Yeah. I'm supposed to be that guy?

01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.920
Yeah. Or supersede that guy? I'm supposed to

01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:48.359
get better than him? And then you blow out your

01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:50.260
knee and then you get an opportunity with your

01:39:50.260 --> 01:39:54.840
restructure. Your new moment in career. is still

01:39:54.840 --> 01:40:00.359
at an age, and then win 3 -0. Yeah. Gosh, they

01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:01.979
must feel incredible right now. Let's keep it

01:40:01.979 --> 01:40:07.119
going, though. Let's keep it going. Does winning,

01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:10.420
shout out Muffin Top Model, does winning minus

01:40:10.420 --> 01:40:13.699
all the suspended and injured players double

01:40:13.699 --> 01:40:16.859
down on not splashing on signings? Has Adrian

01:40:16.859 --> 01:40:18.739
Hanauer been right this whole time? Unfortunately,

01:40:19.180 --> 01:40:22.680
Nick is not here to defend this argument. I think

01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:27.020
we're both going to defend it, though. I'm still

01:40:27.020 --> 01:40:32.180
not. I still think that we could have the same

01:40:32.180 --> 01:40:35.199
mindset and splash a little more money out on

01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:38.319
a few bigger signings. I just think this goes

01:40:38.319 --> 01:40:44.619
to show the depth that our academy and... Craig

01:40:44.619 --> 01:40:46.239
Weibel have been able to create is incredible.

01:40:46.420 --> 01:40:48.060
And then there's a reason why I titled an episode.

01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:51.199
Craig Weibel is a genius because he has to do

01:40:51.199 --> 01:41:00.920
more with less. Okay. So yes, everything you

01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:07.039
said is right. And isn't it incredible that we

01:41:07.039 --> 01:41:12.359
have, it, it seems, it seems like we have the

01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:17.100
right coach. with the right ownership, with the

01:41:17.100 --> 01:41:20.840
right management of general management, which

01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:26.979
has been a change. We've had multiple, but that's

01:41:26.979 --> 01:41:33.399
about it. And we're approaching shit. 20 years,

01:41:33.460 --> 01:41:43.229
20 years of this club in the MLS. Yeah. Look

01:41:43.229 --> 01:41:47.510
at everything that's grown since then. New clubs,

01:41:47.729 --> 01:41:52.550
new management, how often they've changed. You're

01:41:52.550 --> 01:41:59.130
coming at us with complaints about the lineup.

01:42:00.109 --> 01:42:04.229
But we don't actually change as a club. We're

01:42:04.229 --> 01:42:07.090
consistent in every aspect for almost 20 years.

01:42:08.740 --> 01:42:12.039
We've had a couple of GMs. We've had four goalkeepers.

01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:19.659
We have two managers, two coaches, and basically

01:42:19.659 --> 01:42:25.100
it's one and a half. How fortunate are we? I

01:42:25.100 --> 01:42:28.520
have to say we are the most fortunate. Yeah.

01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:33.579
We've hit every trophy you can hit. Yeah. We

01:42:33.579 --> 01:42:35.960
were the first club to do that. So I have to

01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:37.859
just kind of fucking sit back and say, you know

01:42:37.859 --> 01:42:40.920
what? I can't complain. So then why? Tell me

01:42:40.920 --> 01:42:43.979
why. This is the other question from Tim. What

01:42:43.979 --> 01:42:46.140
does Brian Schmetzer need to do to win coach

01:42:46.140 --> 01:42:53.199
of the year? That is probably the hardest question.

01:42:55.100 --> 01:42:57.340
2016, the Dallas coach gets it, who we beat in

01:42:57.340 --> 01:42:59.939
the playoffs. 2017, Greg Manning gets it when

01:42:59.939 --> 01:43:03.920
he wins. 2019, Bob Bradley gets it, despite the

01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:06.680
fact that... All right, here's my answer. Okay.

01:43:06.739 --> 01:43:10.840
He's won it right now. He's won it right now.

01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:15.659
And there would have to be a full -on episode

01:43:15.659 --> 01:43:20.640
of how he didn't get it. Because if he's been

01:43:20.640 --> 01:43:26.920
ignored, not even ignored, but microcosmed into

01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:30.699
each season, right? This season or this. That's

01:43:30.699 --> 01:43:32.960
the only explanation he hasn't won it, right?

01:43:34.600 --> 01:43:37.079
We're the most successful club in the last decade.

01:43:38.779 --> 01:43:41.159
I don't know how he doesn't get in 2016, taking

01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:44.319
us from right. Exactly. I mean, that's, that's,

01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:48.539
that's how Pat Noonan got it in 2023. Pat Noonan,

01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:53.720
a former sounder. Yeah. Yeah. And Nancy deserved

01:43:53.720 --> 01:43:55.619
it last year. I'm not, I'm not critical of that

01:43:55.619 --> 01:43:58.239
at all, but, but interestingly, it's the Ziggy

01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:00.159
Schmidt award. That's what the coach of the year

01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:03.359
award, but he never got it. He got it twice.

01:44:03.479 --> 01:44:06.180
But Bob Bradley got it three times. Bruce Arena.

01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:08.680
No, he got it in L .A. and he got it in Columbus.

01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:10.659
He never got it. Not for the Sounders, but it's

01:44:10.659 --> 01:44:12.500
named after it. And then no one from the Sounders.

01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:19.520
Ugh, Caleb Porter got it in 2013. Ugh. He did

01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:21.800
not get it the year that Portland won their solo

01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:25.729
trophy, though. That was interesting. No, say

01:44:25.729 --> 01:44:28.390
it loud. Say it loud and proud. One. No, come

01:44:28.390 --> 01:44:32.069
on. They got the COVID tournament trophy. They

01:44:32.069 --> 01:44:36.750
got COVID and a trophy. Yeah, yeah. No, I honestly

01:44:36.750 --> 01:44:42.170
think it's literally, I think, watching the postgame

01:44:42.170 --> 01:44:48.529
of this match, MLS, at least their bench, is

01:44:48.529 --> 01:44:53.029
like, fuck. It's true. It's true. All of it's

01:44:53.029 --> 01:44:56.409
true in that corner. They've figured it out.

01:44:57.289 --> 01:44:59.409
They've figured out depth. They've figured out

01:44:59.409 --> 01:45:02.329
coaching, camaraderie. They've figured it out.

01:45:02.430 --> 01:45:05.010
It's not a one season after another. They've

01:45:05.010 --> 01:45:08.750
figured out a consistency, a trend, everything.

01:45:08.930 --> 01:45:12.729
They've figured it out. And I think that's going

01:45:12.729 --> 01:45:16.329
to snap the voters in mind. If Brian Schmetzer

01:45:16.329 --> 01:45:21.350
doesn't win manager of the year for less than

01:45:21.350 --> 01:45:25.180
what he's done before. then he's never going

01:45:25.180 --> 01:45:29.479
to get it. And that's, I guess, fine. Because

01:45:29.479 --> 01:45:32.119
as Seattleites, where do we live? The upper left.

01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:34.420
If you can't cross the pass, then fuck off. Fry's

01:45:34.420 --> 01:45:36.159
never won goalie of the year, even though he's

01:45:36.159 --> 01:45:38.979
been the best goalie multiple times. Right? You

01:45:38.979 --> 01:45:40.539
know what we're going to do? Build a statue for

01:45:40.539 --> 01:45:42.619
fucking Fry. He doesn't have to win a trophy.

01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:44.560
We're going to build a statue for fucking Fry.

01:45:44.619 --> 01:45:47.899
He'll get a trophy. And interestingly, Dax McCarty,

01:45:47.960 --> 01:45:51.159
you know, former MLS player for FC Dallas, Chicago

01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:53.319
Fire, New York Red Bulls, DC United, and Nashville.

01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:59.199
uh now on apple tv tweeted uh after the game

01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:03.479
congrats to sounders fc on the 2025 leagues cup

01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:06.819
title another one in the bag it's not really

01:46:06.819 --> 01:46:09.159
up for debate anymore that brian schmetzer is

01:46:09.159 --> 01:46:12.420
a top three coach in mls history right and he

01:46:12.420 --> 01:46:20.239
ain't three wow and he ain't three I mean, you

01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:26.220
just can't. Bruce Arena, Bob Bradley, Greg Vanney.

01:46:26.220 --> 01:46:27.819
I put him above Greg Vanney because we beat them

01:46:27.819 --> 01:46:35.180
twice. But Greg Vanney, Ziggy. Is it because

01:46:35.180 --> 01:46:38.680
Ziggy was his guy? Yeah, no. You know what we

01:46:38.680 --> 01:46:43.199
should do? Invite Dax on the show. Yeah. Let's

01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:46.079
do it. Let's do it. You've got the cred, Capitan.

01:46:46.649 --> 01:46:48.789
Let's do it. We can work on that. I mean, it's

01:46:48.789 --> 01:46:50.869
an incredible thought. I mean, that means I think

01:46:50.869 --> 01:46:53.289
he's number two behind Bruce Arena, if you're

01:46:53.289 --> 01:46:55.529
putting it that way, because I don't know. And

01:46:55.529 --> 01:46:59.109
he's number one because he has won every trophy.

01:46:59.930 --> 01:47:04.050
Yeah. Bruce has won every one but this, if I'm

01:47:04.050 --> 01:47:06.409
not mistaken. Wait, no. So, and the supporters.

01:47:06.569 --> 01:47:09.510
No, I meant. Schmetzer has won every single trophy

01:47:09.510 --> 01:47:11.890
except Supporter Shield. He was assistant coach.

01:47:12.010 --> 01:47:13.649
Oh, he was assistant. You're right. He did not

01:47:13.649 --> 01:47:16.010
win that one. But as a coach, he's won four of

01:47:16.010 --> 01:47:20.310
the five he can win. Yeah. Open Cup, Leagues

01:47:20.310 --> 01:47:26.909
Cup, Champions Cup, MLS Cup. And we don't – in

01:47:26.909 --> 01:47:29.689
those years that we're going for like Champions

01:47:29.689 --> 01:47:33.189
Cup, you're not – you can't win the Supporter

01:47:33.189 --> 01:47:35.029
Shield because the roster rules are just set

01:47:35.029 --> 01:47:37.869
that you can't do both. You're just kind of picking

01:47:37.869 --> 01:47:41.829
your path. Yeah. Except for maybe Craig Weibel

01:47:41.829 --> 01:47:45.390
has broken the model. Maybe he's figured out

01:47:45.390 --> 01:47:47.949
how to create depth. Maybe, but even if you think

01:47:47.949 --> 01:47:52.229
about it, we averaged second in the West. We

01:47:52.229 --> 01:47:56.029
were competing for points. But the East Coast,

01:47:56.250 --> 01:47:59.829
obviously, is the one that had probably 10 plus

01:47:59.829 --> 01:48:02.869
points on us because of their schedule. Yeah.

01:48:03.010 --> 01:48:06.109
And there's been many years. in the past where

01:48:06.109 --> 01:48:10.409
the east coast sucks and then uh the west eats

01:48:10.409 --> 01:48:14.090
each other alive but there's a lot of years more

01:48:14.090 --> 01:48:16.729
recently where the east is really good and i

01:48:16.729 --> 01:48:18.609
think this is another year where i think that's

01:48:18.609 --> 01:48:22.210
the case uh so the fact that the sounders showed

01:48:22.210 --> 01:48:25.050
up and played the way they like imagine how different

01:48:25.050 --> 01:48:26.949
the season's going if early on the sounders were

01:48:26.949 --> 01:48:30.310
playing like they are now they're running away

01:48:30.310 --> 01:48:34.819
with the supporter shield one one loss since

01:48:34.819 --> 01:48:39.319
club world cup that's nuts that's two months

01:48:39.319 --> 01:48:43.800
ago yeah it is september yeah like yeah no it's

01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:45.420
september by the time you're listening to this

01:48:45.420 --> 01:48:48.699
yeah in seven minutes recording the the night

01:48:48.699 --> 01:48:52.119
of the match yeah we're we're seven minutes away

01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:55.680
from september seven that's another that's a

01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:59.119
good like pop punk band seven minutes away from

01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:04.399
september All right, so any mailbag? That's our

01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:07.939
mailbag. That's our mailbag from the peanut gallery.

01:49:09.100 --> 01:49:12.600
And so I'm going to say this. I'm proud of this

01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:17.720
team. I'm proud of what they did. To a man, the

01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:19.420
players that played, like if they were hurt,

01:49:19.479 --> 01:49:21.840
like Fry, who didn't play in this tournament,

01:49:22.020 --> 01:49:23.699
gave credit to the players on the field. But

01:49:23.699 --> 01:49:25.739
those that did play, and even some that didn't,

01:49:25.739 --> 01:49:30.220
said we're not done. MLS Cup is still coming.

01:49:32.930 --> 01:49:35.149
So I have two questions for you to finish the

01:49:35.149 --> 01:49:38.590
show. Where does this – because while I would

01:49:38.590 --> 01:49:40.069
have said this is a money grab tournament in

01:49:40.069 --> 01:49:41.810
the past, I think this year is proving that it's

01:49:41.810 --> 01:49:45.850
not. I agree with that. Look at every – all the

01:49:45.850 --> 01:49:48.270
teams who advanced took this seriously and it

01:49:48.270 --> 01:49:50.069
obviously meant something if they're going to

01:49:50.069 --> 01:49:54.750
fight us. There were shots of – I'm a little

01:49:54.750 --> 01:49:58.550
surprised. Shots of Miami players crying. I'm

01:49:58.550 --> 01:50:01.029
assuming they weren't on any chance of playing.

01:50:01.950 --> 01:50:05.970
But there were people crying, wearing. Yeah.

01:50:06.350 --> 01:50:09.229
So where does this win rank in Sounders history?

01:50:09.449 --> 01:50:11.470
And what do you think the rest of the season

01:50:11.470 --> 01:50:18.430
is going to bring us? In Sounders history? Yeah.

01:50:19.609 --> 01:50:21.989
Because you know what? Going into this, I don't

01:50:21.989 --> 01:50:23.869
know how I felt about it. But when you were in

01:50:23.869 --> 01:50:26.529
there, I wish you had been there because it felt

01:50:26.529 --> 01:50:29.590
like a cup final. This felt like being at the

01:50:29.590 --> 01:50:32.399
MLS Cup. This felt like. Being at a U S open

01:50:32.399 --> 01:50:34.420
cup final in a big city. No, I jumped out of

01:50:34.420 --> 01:50:39.079
my shit when we scored. It was, it was, I literally

01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:43.720
told my wife, I am, I need isolation for this.

01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:48.079
Like I have the ability to pause and I will support,

01:50:48.260 --> 01:50:53.159
but I am going to be amped. And I was, and I

01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:56.859
was, this for me was up there. This was up there

01:50:56.859 --> 01:51:02.359
with 2019, 2022, that vibe. Because why wouldn't

01:51:02.359 --> 01:51:07.239
it be? It was the final. Yeah. It's clear as

01:51:07.239 --> 01:51:11.199
day why this is important. For me, this is probably

01:51:11.199 --> 01:51:18.100
top three. And I would say number three. Yeah,

01:51:18.140 --> 01:51:20.180
I think I would put that too. I've been at all

01:51:20.180 --> 01:51:25.319
of them, meaning I wasn't there. Yeah. Well,

01:51:25.460 --> 01:51:29.800
I'm throwing the first MLS Cup out of that top

01:51:29.800 --> 01:51:33.760
three. You're not putting that in the top. No,

01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:39.260
it's not. MLS Cup, the second one. Interesting.

01:51:39.659 --> 01:51:42.520
CONCACAF, Champions League Final against Pumas.

01:51:42.619 --> 01:51:46.800
And this one. See, I put the first MLS Cup. I

01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:52.000
think once we were officially the champions,

01:51:52.380 --> 01:51:56.539
but I would not put that team ahead of this.

01:51:56.699 --> 01:51:59.560
Oh, no, no, no, no. Definitely not. And that

01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:02.590
was a... I would agree with that. We were victims

01:52:02.590 --> 01:52:09.130
positively of circumstance in 2016. Let's not

01:52:09.130 --> 01:52:15.770
beat around the bush. Didn't shoot a ball on

01:52:15.770 --> 01:52:19.729
goal. But we won it, right? So I'll take it.

01:52:19.949 --> 01:52:22.670
I'll take it. But my number one, two, and three

01:52:22.670 --> 01:52:29.149
are 19, 22, and this team right now. Okay. I

01:52:29.149 --> 01:52:30.989
mean, 19 was great. I was there. It was kind

01:52:30.989 --> 01:52:34.149
of modern for me. Any of these three teams in

01:52:34.149 --> 01:52:36.489
2016. I didn't get to celebrate that one. So

01:52:36.489 --> 01:52:40.289
to me, that one is kind of, I just think about

01:52:40.289 --> 01:52:41.890
the bummerness of it because I didn't get to

01:52:41.890 --> 01:52:46.210
celebrate in 2019. So I get it. I was physically

01:52:46.210 --> 01:52:48.409
there in the stadium enjoying every fucking moment

01:52:48.409 --> 01:52:51.670
of it. And then we scored three goals. I'm just

01:52:51.670 --> 01:52:54.949
flipping the MLS Cup wins because I was lucky

01:52:54.949 --> 01:52:57.310
enough to get to go fly on the Sounders jet.

01:52:57.720 --> 01:52:59.619
With them, with the families of the players.

01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:02.460
So it was it was more than just the match. It

01:53:02.460 --> 01:53:03.779
was like a whole special thing because they took

01:53:03.779 --> 01:53:05.680
the executive committee of the Alliance Council.

01:53:06.819 --> 01:53:09.220
Well, that that is super special for you because

01:53:09.220 --> 01:53:11.779
I wouldn't get that. Yeah. And I also think that

01:53:11.779 --> 01:53:17.460
this is just special because. Oh, I see. I see

01:53:17.460 --> 01:53:19.600
the close up of the spit now where you were talking

01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:21.520
about where it splashes off of him. Jesus. Oh,

01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:25.140
yeah. Yeah. It's it's kish kish. Again, subsidiary.

01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:30.520
Gosh, gosh, gosh. Yeah. But it also seems like

01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:33.579
this particular match, obviously, compared to

01:53:33.579 --> 01:53:37.359
nine years ago, but this is against Messi. Everyone

01:53:37.359 --> 01:53:40.500
in the world is watching this. And the conversation,

01:53:40.880 --> 01:53:45.460
hindsight, talking about we beat them. We didn't

01:53:45.460 --> 01:53:50.479
just beat them by a goal. We beat them. Everyone

01:53:50.479 --> 01:53:52.979
watches the highlights. No, they beat you. They

01:53:52.979 --> 01:53:55.000
got you. They understood you. They understood

01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.260
you. That's the worst. That's the worst. When

01:53:58.260 --> 01:54:01.699
the other team has figured you out. They didn't

01:54:01.699 --> 01:54:05.140
just get ghost goals, right? Something that just

01:54:05.140 --> 01:54:11.079
popped in. We scored because we scored. Alex

01:54:11.079 --> 01:54:14.600
do a sunset. That was fucking perfect, right?

01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:19.439
The penalty was right. We got you. We called

01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:22.149
your center back. which is your midfielder coming

01:54:22.149 --> 01:54:25.550
back to center back. We got you. This is why

01:54:25.550 --> 01:54:31.829
it's top three for me. It was manufactured. We

01:54:31.829 --> 01:54:37.390
should win this game. Yeah. Yep. I mean, I'm

01:54:37.390 --> 01:54:39.970
with you. I'm putting it third all time. What

01:54:39.970 --> 01:54:42.510
is the say about this team moving forward? I

01:54:42.510 --> 01:54:45.170
mean, it seems like it buoyed them. What are

01:54:45.170 --> 01:54:46.550
the Sounders going to do the rest of the year?

01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:50.560
It would be a disappointment if we don't win

01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:54.159
the MLS Cup, to be honest. I'm with you. This

01:54:54.159 --> 01:54:58.859
team is that good. Yep. Just got to prove it.

01:54:59.260 --> 01:55:02.159
Clear as day. Osaze keeps playing like he's playing.

01:55:02.500 --> 01:55:05.640
I mean, I think you can't not play him at forward.

01:55:05.779 --> 01:55:07.020
You might need to play him and Jordan at the

01:55:07.020 --> 01:55:10.180
top together. He just had a post -match interview

01:55:10.180 --> 01:55:14.720
with his dad and mom against the world. You didn't

01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:16.779
see that because you weren't there. that's dad

01:55:16.779 --> 01:55:20.100
and mom his mom said this is the first post match

01:55:20.100 --> 01:55:24.460
i get with my son without a baby in my arms like

01:55:24.460 --> 01:55:29.939
she was stoked for him for her like yeah and

01:55:29.939 --> 01:55:33.300
and and dwayne was there and they're both they're

01:55:33.300 --> 01:55:38.100
both in garb of sounders talk about dwayne winning

01:55:38.100 --> 01:55:43.159
dwayne won the 2011 mls uh mvp uh jesus's dad

01:55:43.159 --> 01:55:47.510
won the 2010 mls mvp like He's his daddy. Come

01:55:47.510 --> 01:55:50.449
show it up, by the way. Come hang out. Maybe

01:55:50.449 --> 01:55:52.590
he was there. I don't know. Maybe. They may have

01:55:52.590 --> 01:55:55.430
just not shown him. There was so much family

01:55:55.430 --> 01:55:57.130
in the field. The entire field was filled with

01:55:57.130 --> 01:56:00.350
players' family. And Papa and Mama Roldan even

01:56:00.350 --> 01:56:02.270
came over and lifted the trophy with the fans.

01:56:02.789 --> 01:56:06.229
Well, of course, they have to. They are part

01:56:06.229 --> 01:56:10.090
of the... They are. And in 2016, since I got

01:56:10.090 --> 01:56:11.529
to fly with them and be on the bus with them,

01:56:11.569 --> 01:56:13.390
I got to get to know them a little bit. And they

01:56:13.390 --> 01:56:16.000
are incredible people. it is so nice as everyone

01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:20.100
says yeah they are so cool which is another thing

01:56:20.100 --> 01:56:24.640
that again watching post match i think this is

01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:27.739
the first time i've heard weeby and all them

01:56:27.739 --> 01:56:33.140
like talk about how close it was like they're

01:56:33.140 --> 01:56:35.840
you're finally like giving us some credit credibility

01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:40.279
of being a foundational like beyond just the

01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:46.119
stadium yeah and you know we provide now we have

01:56:46.119 --> 01:56:49.039
a good place to train it's like we've only have

01:56:49.039 --> 01:56:52.579
a good place to train like last year isn't that

01:56:52.579 --> 01:56:58.479
nuts yeah we've had a pretty shitty place for

01:56:58.479 --> 01:57:00.920
all our players to train it was nice for what

01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:02.979
it was but it was not for what it was it was

01:57:02.979 --> 01:57:08.739
not it was oh it was not even close for 15 years

01:57:08.739 --> 01:57:14.920
what has kept the ethos the Sounders together

01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:20.539
is is this essentially right the fan base the

01:57:20.539 --> 01:57:24.140
real like honest to truth we're speaking and

01:57:24.140 --> 01:57:28.260
the critically the Alliance Council if we didn't

01:57:28.260 --> 01:57:30.840
have Alliance Council which no professional clubs

01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:37.239
do except for us and XYZ there's a few Barcelona

01:57:37.239 --> 01:57:40.819
right but the fact that we have this much control

01:57:40.819 --> 01:57:46.449
and this much say it's like I'm so proud. This

01:57:46.449 --> 01:57:49.949
is why you're proud. This is what happens. You

01:57:49.949 --> 01:57:54.189
have a strong club that can defeat Messi and

01:57:54.189 --> 01:57:58.029
co. In your house. You mentioned it, but just

01:57:58.029 --> 01:58:00.770
to be clear, shout out to ECS. Shout out, of

01:58:00.770 --> 01:58:03.310
course, to my girl FC family. Shout out to the

01:58:03.310 --> 01:58:08.430
other supporter groups, past and present. This

01:58:08.430 --> 01:58:11.869
fan base is incredible. It's insane. Sometimes

01:58:11.869 --> 01:58:18.500
we're spoiled. But it's the players to a man

01:58:18.500 --> 01:58:20.779
talk about how incredible it is to play in front

01:58:20.779 --> 01:58:22.760
of these, these crowds because they, they played

01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:24.399
some of these players played other places where

01:58:24.399 --> 01:58:28.439
they don't get to experience that. It's not even

01:58:28.439 --> 01:58:30.619
just these crowds. It's these crowds in this

01:58:30.619 --> 01:58:34.659
league. Yeah. This league does not have what

01:58:34.659 --> 01:58:39.520
we have. It really doesn't. It's part of Portland.

01:58:40.010 --> 01:58:42.210
Because you don't have soccer -specific stadiums.

01:58:42.210 --> 01:58:43.470
They have these little tiny things. And that's

01:58:43.470 --> 01:58:45.109
why people, when they talk about we want a different

01:58:45.109 --> 01:58:48.850
stadium, no. I want the 69 ,000 full every game.

01:58:48.989 --> 01:58:51.050
It's going to take a while to get there. But

01:58:51.050 --> 01:58:53.229
there's no one there connecting the community

01:58:53.229 --> 01:58:55.449
to understanding to what they have available

01:58:55.449 --> 01:58:59.130
to them. It's what they're doing now. They're

01:58:59.130 --> 01:59:02.369
doing it. There's so much going on. And I love

01:59:02.369 --> 01:59:09.800
it. And I love it. MLS has realized that. I mean,

01:59:09.819 --> 01:59:13.600
it was Seattle, Portland, and Vancouver's metropolis.

01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:16.640
Let's not be wrong. I mean, Vancouver's – I mean,

01:59:16.659 --> 01:59:18.699
they're as big as San Francisco in terms of like

01:59:18.699 --> 01:59:22.439
as an international city. Yeah, but it wasn't

01:59:22.439 --> 01:59:25.399
until really like Portland and Seattle when they

01:59:25.399 --> 01:59:28.119
– and Toronto even with the stadium in the city.

01:59:28.180 --> 01:59:33.260
They were like, oh, we can create a non -suburban

01:59:33.260 --> 01:59:37.569
push for a league. I love city. And it's like,

01:59:37.670 --> 01:59:39.470
are you, are you, are you fucking kidding me?

01:59:40.489 --> 01:59:45.750
No. Oh, that sucks. No, but like here, by the

01:59:45.750 --> 01:59:49.890
way, living in San Diego, it's weird. It seems

01:59:49.890 --> 01:59:55.829
like an effort to Soto drive. It'll take you

01:59:55.829 --> 01:59:59.069
15 minutes. It's because everyone drives 80 miles

01:59:59.069 --> 02:00:02.789
an hour. Shit about anyone else. I mean, everyone

02:00:02.789 --> 02:00:06.149
in Washington drives 65 miles an hour. And then,

02:00:06.460 --> 02:00:09.220
is pissed off about you not changing your lane

02:00:09.220 --> 02:00:11.500
when you didn't give me a signal. Trust me. The

02:00:11.500 --> 02:00:14.399
one thing I learned from driving, you know, I

02:00:14.399 --> 02:00:16.020
drove in California for a long time was that

02:00:16.020 --> 02:00:17.880
they're just as poor drivers here. They just

02:00:17.880 --> 02:00:20.380
do it at half the speed. Well, no, they're shitty

02:00:20.380 --> 02:00:23.279
drivers that show a signal. Yeah. They're shitty

02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:25.340
drivers here. They don't show a signal. They

02:00:25.340 --> 02:00:27.460
just do whatever they want. If you don't, if

02:00:27.460 --> 02:00:28.500
you show the signal, you're going to get cut

02:00:28.500 --> 02:00:31.340
off, man. I would rather have, at least they're

02:00:31.340 --> 02:00:33.319
consistent. The inconsistency. I'm sorry. My

02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:35.380
children in my car. I need to know where you're

02:00:35.380 --> 02:00:38.720
going. That's it. I don't know where people are

02:00:38.720 --> 02:00:40.699
going here. They can't even do a fucking four

02:00:40.699 --> 02:00:42.699
-way stop. I'm literally going to start a nonprofit

02:00:42.699 --> 02:00:45.079
that all we do is teach four -way stops and zipper

02:00:45.079 --> 02:00:47.779
merges. I'm not kidding. That's how bad it is

02:00:47.779 --> 02:00:50.819
here. It sucks. I hate it. I think it's just

02:00:50.819 --> 02:00:54.380
human beings. Yeah, human beings. We all suck.

02:00:54.460 --> 02:00:57.800
We're all just human beings, man. Yeah, this

02:00:57.800 --> 02:01:03.220
team feels faded at this point, and we've got

02:01:03.220 --> 02:01:09.859
players coming back. If they can continue to

02:01:09.859 --> 02:01:12.180
figure it out, obviously they're not going to

02:01:12.180 --> 02:01:15.479
finish. They'll probably finish fourth in the

02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:17.899
West just based on there's not a lot of games

02:01:17.899 --> 02:01:21.180
left. And it would take a meltdown from a team

02:01:21.180 --> 02:01:23.079
or two ahead of us. I'm not even worried about

02:01:23.079 --> 02:01:26.460
that, though. But you take care of business,

02:01:26.640 --> 02:01:29.020
then you just got to go on the road and beat

02:01:29.020 --> 02:01:33.909
those teams ahead of you. We could drop down

02:01:33.909 --> 02:01:38.109
from LAFC as games in hand. But yeah, I think

02:01:38.109 --> 02:01:41.029
this is a team that if they figure out how to

02:01:41.029 --> 02:01:44.310
play up top with Osaze or continue to bring Jordan

02:01:44.310 --> 02:01:46.409
in, play multiple people. And let's not forget,

02:01:46.470 --> 02:01:48.250
we have Moose coming back now that this tournament

02:01:48.250 --> 02:01:49.510
is done because he had a two -game suspension.

02:01:50.550 --> 02:01:52.869
Which, by the way, I know they might have showed

02:01:52.869 --> 02:01:55.909
a few clips, and Nick left after 25 minutes.

02:01:56.029 --> 02:01:58.590
Every single player on the team pretty much came

02:01:58.590 --> 02:02:01.210
up and lifted the trophy, including Jordan. including

02:02:01.210 --> 02:02:05.250
Paul Areola made speeches like, uh, well, that

02:02:05.250 --> 02:02:08.010
trophy looks like it's super light. Like they

02:02:08.010 --> 02:02:12.789
were like real silver on that. Uh, I mean, throw

02:02:12.789 --> 02:02:15.890
it over the stadium because they didn't do the

02:02:15.890 --> 02:02:18.970
arm race thing at the end. They did it much later

02:02:18.970 --> 02:02:22.069
with families and stuff, but knew who came over

02:02:22.069 --> 02:02:24.149
and did it himself to the crowd with the trophy.

02:02:24.189 --> 02:02:27.829
He brought players over. He started. chants,

02:02:27.829 --> 02:02:30.630
crowd chants for other players. He was bringing

02:02:30.630 --> 02:02:34.329
players up like knew who pretty much helped manufacture

02:02:34.329 --> 02:02:37.149
the celebrations at the end with the fans. And

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it was so fucking cool. Well, what an odd player

02:02:46.449 --> 02:02:51.750
that guy is. I'm glad you were on the field when

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you weren't allowed to be on the field to do

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that. Yeah. But, I mean, I think he probably

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felt like he had to because he didn't get to

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play. And he didn't feel like he showed other,

02:03:02.949 --> 02:03:04.949
like Brian said, he showed up like, look, this

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exact same foul on me. They didn't get called,

02:03:06.750 --> 02:03:09.109
yet they called that one. It's like, but we can't

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change it. It is what it is, right? So, in the

02:03:13.189 --> 02:03:18.829
end, yeah, it was just, it was a great night

02:03:18.829 --> 02:03:23.329
that will go down. in Sounders history. And,

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and, and that surprises me because if you had

02:03:25.970 --> 02:03:27.630
told me at the beginning of the season that I

02:03:27.630 --> 02:03:29.090
was going to care about a league's cup final,

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I would have laughed at you. Honestly, if you

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told me, actually, if you told me earlier in

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the season, if you win the league's cup final,

02:03:36.109 --> 02:03:38.689
you'll have all the trophies. Yeah. I never,

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I didn't figure, I didn't, I would have been

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like, Oh, okay, let's go. Yeah. And we fucking

02:03:43.970 --> 02:03:47.470
did it without us telling him to do it. Yeah.

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That was awesome. That was just, yeah. So. All

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I can say is I'm happy tonight. I mean, obviously

02:03:52.350 --> 02:03:55.050
I'm drinking whiskey. And Twelman, I want to

02:03:55.050 --> 02:03:59.510
give him some credit a little bit. He did appropriately

02:03:59.510 --> 02:04:03.689
and accurately call out who is the better man.

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He said in 1994, if you had told the... Actually,

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I'm not going to quote it exactly. He just dated

02:04:13.130 --> 02:04:18.729
correctly 1994 better man, Seattle, them. With

02:04:18.729 --> 02:04:20.789
Eddie Vedder there. And that was in Vitology

02:04:20.789 --> 02:04:23.930
came out, which had Better Man in it. And he

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called it. So he had his Seattle music history

02:04:28.189 --> 02:04:31.970
on point before he made a comment. And I have

02:04:31.970 --> 02:04:34.250
to give him credit because I know we're very

02:04:34.250 --> 02:04:39.210
critical of all our people commenting on Seattle

02:04:39.210 --> 02:04:42.090
music. And Taylor Twelman did it. He said we

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were the Better Man. Yeah, I love it. I love

02:04:45.930 --> 02:04:49.869
it. You're from here now, Eddie. You're not from

02:04:49.869 --> 02:04:54.529
San Diego. We win the trophy this year. Oh, that's

02:04:54.529 --> 02:04:57.210
been a lot of fun, by the way. Yeah, the trophy.

02:04:57.329 --> 02:05:00.609
That's been a lot of fun. Now that the Better

02:05:00.609 --> 02:05:02.609
Cup has become a thing. I tried to get you a

02:05:02.609 --> 02:05:05.890
Better Cup hat, but I couldn't find an extra

02:05:05.890 --> 02:05:09.850
one. Yeah. Couldn't find an extra one. But maybe

02:05:09.850 --> 02:05:12.130
I'll look around and see, because now that it's

02:05:12.130 --> 02:05:14.310
over. Because I was at the game where we won

02:05:14.310 --> 02:05:22.560
and actually won the... It was super fun. By

02:05:22.560 --> 02:05:26.159
the way, all listeners, I am practicing guitar,

02:05:26.300 --> 02:05:28.520
learning it for the first time. I've been doing

02:05:28.520 --> 02:05:31.359
it for about a month and a half now. By the end

02:05:31.359 --> 02:05:35.020
of the season, our last episode, I'm going to

02:05:35.020 --> 02:05:38.020
play something on guitar. Can you play the intro?

02:05:38.340 --> 02:05:42.300
Can you play the intro song? I've never thought

02:05:42.300 --> 02:05:46.609
about it, but I could try. I know about like

02:05:46.609 --> 02:05:47.970
eight quarters right now. Everyone in MLS stole

02:05:47.970 --> 02:05:50.430
it from us because they know how hyped everyone

02:05:50.430 --> 02:05:52.149
gets at the beginning of the show. Gosh. No,

02:05:52.149 --> 02:05:55.250
that was NBA. That was NBA that stole it? It

02:05:55.250 --> 02:05:57.310
was the NBA. Oh, but then it also showed up.

02:05:57.329 --> 02:05:59.770
The Colorado Rapids did it on theirs. That's

02:05:59.770 --> 02:06:01.229
what it was because Dan was on and then they

02:06:01.229 --> 02:06:05.909
heard it. Yeah. God, we were just so famous.

02:06:06.189 --> 02:06:08.609
I know. I know. All right. What's your final

02:06:08.609 --> 02:06:12.449
words? Let's get out of here. My final words.

02:06:14.500 --> 02:06:17.960
Join our Discord. Yeah. Just do it. That's where

02:06:17.960 --> 02:06:20.439
the life is. That's where the lifeblood is. Fun

02:06:20.439 --> 02:06:24.220
times. Join our Patreon, like we said before.

02:06:25.439 --> 02:06:28.039
Always good to have you. Only $1 .74. Rate us.

02:06:28.079 --> 02:06:30.039
If you're going to give us five stars, rate us

02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:34.640
on all of the places you can rate podcasts. I

02:06:34.640 --> 02:06:42.600
think we're getting closer to just... this thing

02:06:42.600 --> 02:06:45.399
blowing up is we've had this awesome little community

02:06:45.399 --> 02:06:50.119
we've created. Every, every episode is better

02:06:50.119 --> 02:06:52.520
than the last and there's only fun stuff coming.

02:06:54.819 --> 02:06:58.039
That's the truth. I mean, we have been consistent

02:06:58.039 --> 02:07:03.380
for half a decade about just really just, we

02:07:03.380 --> 02:07:06.140
are just, we're just the voice of the community

02:07:06.140 --> 02:07:10.159
and that's the point. Right. So. tell us wrong

02:07:10.159 --> 02:07:15.079
tell us right join the show and uh let's keep

02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:18.659
going this has been probably other than my daughters

02:07:18.659 --> 02:07:22.720
and my and my and the marriage to my wife the

02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:25.439
most fun thing i do in my life is just hanging

02:07:25.439 --> 02:07:28.920
out with you and nick every single week as much

02:07:28.920 --> 02:07:31.899
as we can and just talking about our seattle

02:07:31.899 --> 02:07:34.060
sounders because yeah what we're doing every

02:07:34.060 --> 02:07:36.619
week this is i wish you had been here man i wish

02:07:36.619 --> 02:07:38.340
you had been here i you know what you know i

02:07:38.340 --> 02:07:41.840
know I fucking know. The one thing that makes

02:07:41.840 --> 02:07:43.920
it okay was that we got to watch the Mariner

02:07:43.920 --> 02:07:47.260
playoff game together a couple years ago. You

02:07:47.260 --> 02:07:49.619
mean we watched two Mariner playoff games in

02:07:49.619 --> 02:07:53.479
one? Yeah, 19 innings. All 18 innings. Whatever

02:07:53.479 --> 02:07:59.000
it was. No, it was 18 innings. I have been in

02:07:59.000 --> 02:08:01.640
every fucking major final except for this one.

02:08:02.380 --> 02:08:05.960
This was the first time it hit me. Start planning.

02:08:06.060 --> 02:08:08.039
You're coming up for the MLS Cup final. when

02:08:08.039 --> 02:08:11.420
we host that my birthday is in November and that

02:08:11.420 --> 02:08:14.060
seems like a perfect time for this kind of shit

02:08:14.060 --> 02:08:17.720
so anyway we love all of you listening to this

02:08:17.720 --> 02:08:23.140
show um shit yeah yeah you know what now we're

02:08:23.140 --> 02:08:25.800
gonna go to bed yeah take it away James take

02:08:25.800 --> 02:08:40.850
it away James You can follow the Sounders Scuttlebutt

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MLS team of all time? Seattle Sounders are both

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unequivocally and irreparably the best MLS team

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of all time.