WEBVTT 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:15.259 It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes 00:00:15.259 --> 00:00:17.899 from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest 00:00:17.899 --> 00:00:21.480 thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice, 00:00:21.500 --> 00:00:45.140 your moment. Hello and welcome to Sounders Scuttlebutt. 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:46.939 I'm one of your hosts, Cameron Collins. We are 00:00:46.939 --> 00:00:49.899 here with the Ultras today, tonight, this evening, 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:54.439 late at night, 10 .30 p .m. What are you popping? 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.140 Oh, you were so thirsty, you popped that drink 00:00:56.140 --> 00:01:00.520 right away, Cedar. Patagonia beer? Yeah, Patagonia 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.659 beer. It's an organic lager. And it's brewed 00:01:04.659 --> 00:01:08.859 with a sustainable grain. So, yeah, you know 00:01:08.859 --> 00:01:12.769 what? That sounds a lot better than Alex's Michelob 00:01:12.769 --> 00:01:16.569 Ultra right there. It's like water. And Dan, 00:01:16.629 --> 00:01:21.290 I presume you have some natty ice? No, all of 00:01:21.290 --> 00:01:26.189 mine was green. I got my liquid death shout out 00:01:26.189 --> 00:01:29.010 to those of you not drinking while you're listening. 00:01:29.290 --> 00:01:32.689 Hey, hey. Although you should be drinking because 00:01:32.689 --> 00:01:36.709 we are here tonight to celebrate Grimsby Town's... 00:01:37.180 --> 00:01:41.040 12 -11 penalty victory over Man United. Let's 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:45.480 go! The best part about that? The interview with 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:50.359 the Grimsby townkeeper. Yes, yes. Yeah, he's 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:54.099 a Man U fan. And he was disappointed in Man U's 00:01:54.099 --> 00:01:56.620 performance. And he just beat them. I love that. 00:01:57.420 --> 00:02:00.900 He cares more about Man U than probably the players 00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:05.099 on Man U. I mean, wow, you can't make this stuff 00:02:05.099 --> 00:02:10.099 up. They're currently fourth in the Football 00:02:10.099 --> 00:02:15.639 League 2 right now, a point behind second. I 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.159 can't see who's in first at the moment because 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.860 my standings are a little messed up. Crew Alexander's 00:02:19.860 --> 00:02:22.139 in first, also a point ahead of them. So five 00:02:22.139 --> 00:02:24.280 games in the season. They are doing pretty well. 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:27.199 They've been around since 1878. Another team 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.740 that's been around since the 70s but the 1970s 00:02:29.740 --> 00:02:33.939 is your Seattle Sounders. Victorious tonight 00:02:33.939 --> 00:02:38.840 versus LA Galaxy. not without some very interesting 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.860 things happening in a game that I was surprisingly 00:02:42.860 --> 00:02:45.419 nervous. Alex, you seem pretty confident going 00:02:45.419 --> 00:02:51.680 in. How did the rest of y 'all feel? Yeah, I 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:54.219 felt pretty good going in, too. It just seems 00:02:54.219 --> 00:02:56.300 like the Sounders are really starting to put 00:02:56.300 --> 00:02:59.840 some stuff together, and I figured LA wasn't 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:01.240 going to play in a low block, so we'd be okay. 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.039 Jesus Christ. Ticketmaster Watch. Cheapest tickets, 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:17.060 $2 .30. $2 .30? Is that resale? Cheapest tickets 00:03:17.060 --> 00:03:24.139 for one ticket, $420. In section 123. 123. Isn't 00:03:24.139 --> 00:03:28.719 that ECS section? That's right above. Jesus Christ. 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:33.120 Wow. Maybe I should... I'm not going to, but 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:35.289 maybe I should move my tickets up. Get those 00:03:35.289 --> 00:03:39.889 up on that market so I can... Man, seeing Messi 00:03:39.889 --> 00:03:42.229 in a final, though. We're jumping ahead here. 00:03:42.289 --> 00:03:44.710 Cedar, how did you feel coming into the game? 00:03:45.509 --> 00:03:52.189 I felt pretty good. Yeah, I felt reasonably optimistic 00:03:52.189 --> 00:03:55.650 just because we had literally just played Galaxy, 00:03:55.750 --> 00:04:01.110 beat them 4 -0, right? I mean, it was going to 00:04:01.110 --> 00:04:03.509 be a tough match no matter what because this 00:04:03.509 --> 00:04:06.069 is the... This is the competition that they were 00:04:06.069 --> 00:04:10.330 alive in, not MLS, you know, regular season. 00:04:10.629 --> 00:04:15.250 But, no, I felt good. I mean, and we showed it. 00:04:15.270 --> 00:04:18.629 We were the better team on the day. I mean, it 00:04:18.629 --> 00:04:20.629 wasn't like you alluded to. It wasn't without 00:04:20.629 --> 00:04:25.509 its dramatic moments. But, no, I felt pretty 00:04:25.509 --> 00:04:31.089 good going into it. How about you, Alex? You 00:04:31.089 --> 00:04:34.579 were pretty confident coming in. All but guaranteed 00:04:34.579 --> 00:04:37.120 a win. What were you actually feeling in those 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.079 moments leading up to the match? No, I know that 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.480 we missed a lot of easy chances. Like, I was 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.079 telling my buddies, I'm like, D -Ro missed the 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.000 easiest shots, but he scored the hardest one 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:51.379 out of the three that he had. And I was like, 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:53.779 when I told my buddies when Pedro scored near 00:04:53.779 --> 00:04:55.600 post, I'm like, see, that's why you shoot near 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.220 post. Don't put it in the middle where the keeper's 00:04:58.220 --> 00:05:02.899 diving. Put it on the post. Yeah, that was an 00:05:02.899 --> 00:05:05.639 interesting play, though. And let's get back 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.319 to it, though. Let's back up real quick before 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:12.240 we go to that. Sounders start out strong, immediately 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.980 pressuring. A couple good shots right out the 00:05:14.980 --> 00:05:19.759 bat. But it took a minute for us to score, or 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.699 seven to be exact. But seven minutes in, the 00:05:23.699 --> 00:05:29.160 Sounders could have already been up 1 -0. Suddenly, 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:30.939 what easily could have been called a penalty, 00:05:31.100 --> 00:05:34.500 they let them play on and Pedro scores. What 00:05:34.500 --> 00:05:37.220 are you seeing in that, Alex, since you brought 00:05:37.220 --> 00:05:40.759 up his goal? No, I just thought that it was either 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:42.459 going to be a PK or it was going to end up in 00:05:42.459 --> 00:05:46.360 a goal. And I'm glad that Pedro scored because 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.590 we're all in the feed Pedro movement. Yeah. And 00:05:51.590 --> 00:05:53.829 I told my buddy, I'm like, and everybody that 00:05:53.829 --> 00:05:56.029 called him a bust last year because he was hurt. 00:05:56.209 --> 00:05:58.730 I'm like, we buy a left winger. We play him on 00:05:58.730 --> 00:06:02.209 the right side. And then next, you know, we play 00:06:02.209 --> 00:06:03.949 him on the left. And next, you know, he unlocks 00:06:03.949 --> 00:06:06.769 the offense. And this was going to be the game 00:06:06.769 --> 00:06:10.569 with Mussovsky out that either Pedro, Jesus, 00:06:10.769 --> 00:06:14.810 or Rothrock had to be like, you know what? Like, 00:06:14.870 --> 00:06:16.709 I'm going to put this team on my back and I'm 00:06:16.709 --> 00:06:20.360 going to go and win this game for us. And Pedro 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:21.920 said, you know what? I got this. I'm going to 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.259 put this in. Put us up 1 -0. And after that, 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:26.740 we're going to keep fighting. And we're going 00:06:26.740 --> 00:06:29.360 to look to get the second. Maybe get a third. 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:31.339 But we got to make sure we lock it down in the 00:06:31.339 --> 00:06:34.720 back. It was a great overall team performance. 00:06:36.420 --> 00:06:40.600 Absolutely. So, Dan, what's bigger news in your 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.459 household this week? Sounders advancing to the 00:06:43.459 --> 00:06:46.189 League's Cup Final to play against Messi. or 00:06:46.189 --> 00:06:48.389 Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey getting engaged? 00:06:49.550 --> 00:06:52.790 Oh, they're going to get engaged? I mean, they 00:06:52.790 --> 00:06:55.170 got engaged. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, that's 00:06:55.170 --> 00:06:57.750 exciting. I wasn't checking that. I try to stay 00:06:57.750 --> 00:07:00.850 off the social medias and current events because 00:07:00.850 --> 00:07:06.649 it elicits an anger issue from me. Yeah, I can 00:07:06.649 --> 00:07:09.350 understand why. Did you hear about the CDC director 00:07:09.350 --> 00:07:12.139 getting ousted today? No, no, I did not. How 00:07:12.139 --> 00:07:15.339 did that go? They wanted folks to get vaccinated, 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.579 huh? Terrible. Yeah, no, yep, yep. They're trying 00:07:18.579 --> 00:07:21.699 to pull the COVID vaccine. As someone who's been 00:07:21.699 --> 00:07:23.939 vaxxed eight times and got it three other times 00:07:23.939 --> 00:07:27.560 for a total of 11 vaccinations, I need to keep 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.399 that going since I'm immunocompromised. I know 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:31.800 too many people that have had it recently. I 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:33.740 actually wore a mask today on the train on the 00:07:33.740 --> 00:07:38.480 way to the Mariners game where the Mariners swept 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:41.540 San Diego. Or did we win two out of three? Well, 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.519 I think we won two out of three, but we won the 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:47.019 veteran cup yesterday. Let's go. We worked out. 00:07:47.220 --> 00:07:50.839 Mariners won. It's been a good day for Seattle 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:55.699 sports. What did you see on that first goal from 00:07:55.699 --> 00:07:58.660 Pedro, though, Dan? Well, I think somebody on 00:07:58.660 --> 00:08:01.160 L .A. needs a vaccine now because that goal was 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:06.740 sick. That's it. That's all I got. That was it. 00:08:06.819 --> 00:08:13.269 Shot my whole load. No, it was just – the thing 00:08:13.269 --> 00:08:14.730 that kept coming to mind, especially like the 00:08:14.730 --> 00:08:17.189 first 20 minutes out the gate, even the way that 00:08:17.189 --> 00:08:20.170 we started with D -Row going short to Jesus and 00:08:20.170 --> 00:08:22.269 then everybody rushing forward and going ahead 00:08:22.269 --> 00:08:25.310 and playing possession aggressively on their 00:08:25.310 --> 00:08:29.589 side of the pitch was just relentless. I don't 00:08:29.589 --> 00:08:31.350 feel like the Sounders celebrated much after 00:08:31.350 --> 00:08:34.830 their win. What was it, Saturday? Sunday. Yeah, 00:08:34.870 --> 00:08:37.110 their win Sunday. They were like – you see that 00:08:37.110 --> 00:08:40.879 press conference with – Or the after -game locker 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:42.559 room speech of Brian Smithster saying, let's 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.720 fucking go, Sounders. They brought the same energy, 00:08:45.820 --> 00:08:48.519 that they are bigger, stronger, faster, and better 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.240 than you. And that's what they believe right 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:55.720 now, and it shows on the field. Yeah, yeah. Cedar, 00:08:55.779 --> 00:08:59.259 what about you? What were you feeling after that 00:08:59.259 --> 00:09:01.179 first goal? Was that the end of the game for 00:09:01.179 --> 00:09:02.779 you, or did you think it was going to be so nervy? 00:09:03.580 --> 00:09:08.809 I mean... To be honest, I was at work. I wrapped 00:09:08.809 --> 00:09:11.250 up just a little bit before the first half ended. 00:09:11.889 --> 00:09:16.750 I knew the goal had happened. Once I got off 00:09:16.750 --> 00:09:22.049 work, I went over to my parents' place. I finished 00:09:22.049 --> 00:09:26.690 the first half. Once halftime rolled around, 00:09:26.789 --> 00:09:31.570 I went back and watched that first goal. You 00:09:31.570 --> 00:09:33.350 know, my dad had said, he was like, that goal 00:09:33.350 --> 00:09:35.509 doesn't happen without Rothrock. Like, not that 00:09:35.509 --> 00:09:39.809 he got an assist or anything, but he, just his 00:09:39.809 --> 00:09:44.350 hustle. Like, he does not quit on any play. And 00:09:44.350 --> 00:09:47.309 I go back, I watch it, I'm like, yep, that looks 00:09:47.309 --> 00:09:50.629 about right. I mean, it's just little details 00:09:50.629 --> 00:09:53.509 like that where, you know, especially a guy like 00:09:53.509 --> 00:09:56.429 Rothrock. But all those guys, everybody was just 00:09:56.429 --> 00:10:00.129 fighting for everything. And Pedro was there. 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:02.419 right place, right time. And he didn't even let 00:10:02.419 --> 00:10:05.220 the ball bounce. You know, he's like, I'm hitting 00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:08.940 this right now. And how are you going to react 00:10:08.940 --> 00:10:11.620 to that? Especially if he doesn't let you, you 00:10:11.620 --> 00:10:14.740 know, have any time to react to it. So yeah, 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.659 absolutely beautiful. Great way to kick things 00:10:17.659 --> 00:10:20.779 off. But obviously after that seven minutes in, 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.820 I mean, how, you know, I mean, in a way it almost 00:10:24.820 --> 00:10:27.720 gets harder because, you know, you know, galaxy 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.450 is coming for you. So. No, it was an uphill battle 00:10:31.450 --> 00:10:36.529 the whole way. But yeah, great way to start it 00:10:36.529 --> 00:10:43.590 out. Yeah, I mean, I think it felt like it was 00:10:43.590 --> 00:10:45.309 going to be one of those games early on where 00:10:45.309 --> 00:10:48.509 we continuously had chances and couldn't finish. 00:10:48.669 --> 00:10:50.710 And it continued to feel like that after we finally 00:10:50.710 --> 00:10:54.990 got the goal. And at halftime, we come out 1 00:10:54.990 --> 00:10:58.350 -0, but their fans are booing. Were they booing 00:10:58.350 --> 00:11:00.470 their team or were they booing the ref? I wasn't 00:11:00.470 --> 00:11:03.190 so sure. They seemed unhappy with the ref, but 00:11:03.190 --> 00:11:05.370 I don't think, at least at that point, many of 00:11:05.370 --> 00:11:07.730 his calls, other than maybe the yellow card, 00:11:07.950 --> 00:11:11.830 the double yellow he gave to Out and Rothrock, 00:11:11.909 --> 00:11:14.149 I didn't think those were bad cards. I think 00:11:14.149 --> 00:11:17.330 they were pretty good. I think they were booing 00:11:17.330 --> 00:11:20.850 anything that walked. I think they were booing 00:11:20.850 --> 00:11:22.269 the ref. I think they were booing their team. 00:11:22.330 --> 00:11:24.879 There was boos after missed shots. There was 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:27.679 boos after wasted possession. There was boos 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.519 after, you know, whenever Thomas got the ball 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:32.080 and would hold it a little bit. So they were 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:33.600 just booing anything and everything. They're 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.759 probably a pretty unhappy group right now if 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.799 you were to turn on their podcast, I would imagine, 00:11:38.940 --> 00:11:42.519 because we just dominated even when we went down 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.440 a man. There wasn't a lot of times. It was just 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.200 the right amount of anxiety for it to still be 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.399 fun, if that makes sense, right? Like, yeah, 00:11:50.419 --> 00:11:53.639 I'm a little anxious, but this is fun, and we're 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:57.820 physically dominating. I mean, I think we finished 00:11:57.820 --> 00:12:03.399 with 2 .53 goals, according to Apple. 2 .53 expected 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:07.799 goals to there, below one, well below one. So, 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.259 I mean, it went pretty much to plan, I suppose. 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:17.340 Cedar, you pointed out that their coach used 00:12:17.340 --> 00:12:20.379 to be the Sounders announcer in our inaugural 00:12:20.379 --> 00:12:23.179 re -air doing color commentary with Kevin Calabro. 00:12:23.539 --> 00:12:27.220 Do you think that played at all into his poor 00:12:27.220 --> 00:12:32.259 coaching in this match? Yeah, like he has a soft 00:12:32.259 --> 00:12:34.720 spot for us. No, he definitely doesn't have a 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.480 soft spot because he's tried to beat us in, what, 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:42.440 three MLS Cups? So, you know. No, I just think 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:46.240 that's such an interesting wrinkle into just 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.960 this history that we have. But then somebody 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:50.980 else pointed out, I think it was Nicholas, that 00:12:50.980 --> 00:12:55.320 our coaching staff in that inaugural MLS season 00:12:55.320 --> 00:13:01.820 had a lot of former LA Galaxy people in it. And 00:13:01.820 --> 00:13:05.080 Greg Vanney obviously used to play for LA Galaxy, 00:13:05.259 --> 00:13:08.279 if I'm not mistaken. And so it was just kind 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:11.269 of like... He came along with the whole kit and 00:13:11.269 --> 00:13:14.830 caboodle, as I understand it. But, yeah, it's 00:13:14.830 --> 00:13:21.330 just such an interesting history there. But, 00:13:21.370 --> 00:13:24.210 I mean, good for him to get into coaching after 00:13:24.210 --> 00:13:28.590 all that. He's not, clearly, he's not a terrible 00:13:28.590 --> 00:13:31.909 coach. He's done the thing. It's just they're 00:13:31.909 --> 00:13:35.509 having a crazy season right now, and they're 00:13:35.509 --> 00:13:39.330 just not. They're just not anywhere close to 00:13:39.330 --> 00:13:43.029 where, obviously, they would want to be. But 00:13:43.029 --> 00:13:46.070 I don't feel bad for them. I mean, we could have, 00:13:46.149 --> 00:13:49.769 if it wasn't for one mistake last year in the 00:13:49.769 --> 00:13:51.970 Western Conference final, we would have gone 00:13:51.970 --> 00:13:57.649 to MLS Cup. And for my money, we would have beat 00:13:57.649 --> 00:14:01.409 the New York Red Bulls. So not feeling too bad 00:14:01.409 --> 00:14:07.960 about their fortunes. I think, yeah, that's definitely 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.820 the case. We would have beaten them. We've got 00:14:10.820 --> 00:14:14.940 two more big moments in this match I think are 00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:18.600 worth discussing. And the first is, of course, 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.740 the Osaze goal. Dan, I'm going to throw this 00:14:21.740 --> 00:14:26.419 one over to you first. What? I mean, after Osaze, 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:28.299 it seems like he'd been so close in that match, 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.700 just couldn't get it done. But all night long, 00:14:31.820 --> 00:14:34.059 the announcers were talking about his positioning, 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:38.419 his... his power with his body. What did you 00:14:38.419 --> 00:14:41.980 think when you saw that goal? I thought that 00:14:41.980 --> 00:14:44.399 it had been coming, and not as a dig to the kid, 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.200 but he kept doing the right thing and just didn't 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.419 have that final touch. We've seen that happen. 00:14:49.539 --> 00:14:53.080 We've seen Jordan do stuff like that too. So 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:55.720 you just keep getting in the position. And then, 00:14:55.779 --> 00:14:58.279 again, he was relentless. He wheeled the ball 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:02.240 through two defenders. And it was one of those 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:06.600 moments that you realize soccer is a lot of fun 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:09.440 when somebody does something like that with the 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:14.279 ball. Yeah. Alex, take us through it. What did 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:16.399 you see? I mean, you're a goalie, right? So you 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.019 see people running at you all the time. But he 00:15:20.019 --> 00:15:22.480 started with his back to goal. Yeah, I just thought... 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.519 I was like, out of all the ones he... Out of 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.700 all the chances he created or had, I'm like, 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:31.019 you decide to actually score this one. I'm just 00:15:31.019 --> 00:15:34.820 like... Assisted to himself. Yeah. Well, I mean, 00:15:34.820 --> 00:15:36.940 if you technically... The Galaxy player, like, 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:39.639 hit it to... Try to hit it, and he whiffed it. 00:15:40.419 --> 00:15:42.700 But I'm like, how do you score that one, but 00:15:42.700 --> 00:15:45.740 you missed the other two? Yeah. Like, that one 00:15:45.740 --> 00:15:48.220 is just... I'm just like, you choose the hardest 00:15:48.220 --> 00:15:52.250 one to finish. And I watched the game at the 00:15:52.250 --> 00:15:55.269 bar. And my buddies are like, we're going to 00:15:55.269 --> 00:15:57.090 the final. And I'm just like, hold up, guys. 00:15:57.450 --> 00:16:01.509 We blew on 3 -0 leads before. Let's just hold 00:16:01.509 --> 00:16:04.929 our horses. There's still time left. Let's not 00:16:04.929 --> 00:16:07.769 jump the gun. Let's just take it five minutes 00:16:07.769 --> 00:16:11.389 at a time. A possession at a time. And then New 00:16:11.389 --> 00:16:13.830 Who gets the red. And I know we're going to talk 00:16:13.830 --> 00:16:18.639 about that. I don't think it's a red. But I think 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.539 it lands on the ref's description. If the ref 00:16:22.539 --> 00:16:24.580 decides it's red, it's red. Like, what are we 00:16:24.580 --> 00:16:28.440 going to do? I joked that Miami made the call. 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:31.120 They said, we got to get Nuhu out of the game 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:32.639 because if not, he's going to lock up Messi or 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.899 Suarez and Miami's not going to win. Shout out 00:16:35.899 --> 00:16:38.240 to Diego from Uruguay who immediately, when that 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.299 happened, messaged me. The Messi mafia had their 00:16:40.299 --> 00:16:42.860 way. Oh, yeah, for sure. They're afraid of Nuhu. 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:47.110 They call Messi the FIFA boy. Yeah. And I'm a 00:16:47.110 --> 00:16:50.389 big Messi supporter, but not on Sunday. I'll 00:16:50.389 --> 00:16:57.169 tell you that. Cedar, the Osase goal, it's not 00:16:57.169 --> 00:16:59.429 something we've seen for a long time in Seattle. 00:16:59.570 --> 00:17:01.909 I feel like we have finesse strikers. We don't 00:17:01.909 --> 00:17:04.349 tend to have that big body who can kind of – 00:17:04.349 --> 00:17:06.710 we've had players, I guess Kenny Cooper could 00:17:06.710 --> 00:17:10.150 do it a little bit, Nate Jaco early on, but no 00:17:10.150 --> 00:17:15.109 one with almost Jose Altidore -sized body that 00:17:15.109 --> 00:17:17.829 can just kind of – shove people out of the way 00:17:17.829 --> 00:17:20.289 with his body and not with his arms and just 00:17:20.289 --> 00:17:22.910 force his way through. What did you think when 00:17:22.910 --> 00:17:27.829 you saw that goal? Oh, totally. A thing with 00:17:27.829 --> 00:17:34.190 me is I remember very few goals and stuff, even 00:17:34.190 --> 00:17:37.250 though I've watched Sounders games for years 00:17:37.250 --> 00:17:43.569 now. I don't have this catalog of moments that 00:17:43.569 --> 00:17:46.779 other people seem to have. But that's definitely 00:17:46.779 --> 00:17:49.099 a goal that'll stick with me just because it 00:17:49.099 --> 00:17:54.339 was so, like, I mean, the circumstances of it, 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:57.119 you know, needing it in a moment like that. We're 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.720 only up 1 -0. And just, yeah, I can't remember 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:04.460 a cooler goal than that. I mean, you know, obviously 00:18:04.460 --> 00:18:08.519 Pedro's, you know, goal off the half volley against 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.279 Cruz Azul was incredible, like, technically. 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:16.490 But just Osaze's goal tonight was... it was just 00:18:16.490 --> 00:18:19.849 pure, like he just wanted it more, you know? 00:18:19.869 --> 00:18:22.269 And he, he was like, I'm going to do this myself. 00:18:22.789 --> 00:18:26.349 I'm, I'm almost glad that he, you know, he didn't 00:18:26.349 --> 00:18:30.130 score the easier goals earlier on because obviously 00:18:30.130 --> 00:18:32.809 butterfly effect, you know, he wouldn't have 00:18:32.809 --> 00:18:35.630 had that opportunity that he actually had. Right. 00:18:35.710 --> 00:18:39.950 I'm like, I'm glad he, he scored this one. Yeah. 00:18:40.069 --> 00:18:43.490 What a, what a, what a great moment. I mean, 00:18:43.509 --> 00:18:50.339 that was, that was. Absolutely incredible. 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Maybe the greatest of all 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:27.980 time, but not when he's on his current team. 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:32.940 Messy will be coming to town. But the Sounders 00:21:32.940 --> 00:21:34.759 might be a little defensive shorthanded because, 00:21:34.900 --> 00:21:40.140 oh boy, Nuhu got a red card. He slides, gets 00:21:40.140 --> 00:21:44.380 the ball, slides through, hits that Neanderthal 00:21:44.380 --> 00:21:46.980 Gabriel Peck, who I love as a player, but God, 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:51.440 he's hard to look at. And Peck just goes flying 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:56.099 and grabs his leg like he had just been shot 00:21:56.099 --> 00:22:03.640 in a way that... You know, Manu Ginobili is appearing 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:05.859 right now because he knows that that is one of 00:22:05.859 --> 00:22:08.480 the best dives you can ever do. And no one dove 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:10.940 better than Manu Ginobili, including any soccer 00:22:10.940 --> 00:22:14.960 players. That dude was scum. Well, he's Italian, 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.519 so... How we feeling about that red card? I mean, 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:23.160 he's not a real Italian. He's one of the fascists 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.420 that moved to Argentina. Oh, that's right. His 00:22:26.420 --> 00:22:28.799 family, at least. Sorry, I get tripped up when... 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:32.019 You know, all these Argentinians have Italian 00:22:32.019 --> 00:22:37.359 names. Hey, I'm a Messi. Look at me. Hey. Pochettino. 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:43.779 Yeah, exactly. Dan, how are you feeling about 00:22:43.779 --> 00:22:46.119 that red card? Is that a red card? Yeah, probably. 00:22:46.660 --> 00:22:51.779 I don't love it, but yeah. He clipped him in 00:22:51.779 --> 00:22:54.500 the knee, it looks like, with his cleat. So, 00:22:54.500 --> 00:23:00.410 you know, the ref may have decided. It wasn't 00:23:00.410 --> 00:23:02.410 like the craziest red card you've ever seen. 00:23:02.509 --> 00:23:04.549 It's borderline red, but I would have gave it 00:23:04.549 --> 00:23:10.029 a red. 83rd minute. Now, Cedar, we're going to 00:23:10.029 --> 00:23:12.490 wait on you because you'll be the deciding vote 00:23:12.490 --> 00:23:14.490 here. You'll decide it. You'll be the factor. 00:23:15.329 --> 00:23:18.970 Alex, you say no red card. Give Gabriel Peck 00:23:18.970 --> 00:23:23.910 an Oscar. Jesus Christ. I kind of think in those 00:23:23.910 --> 00:23:27.109 instances where they fake the injury like that, 00:23:27.210 --> 00:23:30.650 they should. they should not give them the foul 00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:34.269 because it just encourages them to do that more 00:23:34.269 --> 00:23:36.950 and more often when it clearly is. I mean, that 00:23:36.950 --> 00:23:41.190 questionable penalty in the – I never saw a good 00:23:41.190 --> 00:23:43.609 enough angle, I think, but in the earlier game 00:23:43.609 --> 00:23:48.829 when Miami tied it, it was on like a total dive 00:23:48.829 --> 00:23:53.150 by their forward in the box off the defender, 00:23:53.369 --> 00:23:56.869 and it basically changed the entire game. Thankfully, 00:23:56.970 --> 00:24:00.009 this didn't. But, Cedar, what about you? Was 00:24:00.009 --> 00:24:07.710 that a red card or not? I think if you watch 00:24:07.710 --> 00:24:11.569 the replay, Nuhu, he slides in to the ball. He 00:24:11.569 --> 00:24:15.309 wins the ball. He's hitting the ball first. And 00:24:15.309 --> 00:24:19.430 with the leg and the foot that he hits the ball, 00:24:19.710 --> 00:24:27.559 that's what ends up hitting Gabriel Peck. In 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:31.440 a lot of those instances where you do get, where 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:35.059 you see in other games, other moments, people 00:24:35.059 --> 00:24:41.420 get red cards for a reckless challenge, you'll 00:24:41.420 --> 00:24:46.460 often see them clearly use their secondary leg, 00:24:46.619 --> 00:24:48.880 the one that's not making contact with the ball, 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:53.539 being flung up, their spikes hitting the other 00:24:53.539 --> 00:24:58.549 player, and it... it seeming like it's on purpose. 00:24:58.769 --> 00:25:02.450 With Nuhu, he was going for the ball, and by 00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:05.069 hell or by high water, right, he's going to get 00:25:05.069 --> 00:25:08.650 the ball, and who's ever in the way, right? Peck 00:25:08.650 --> 00:25:14.009 was, Peck didn't have to be right there, right? 00:25:15.210 --> 00:25:19.930 I just think that it's, it was, maybe a yellow 00:25:19.930 --> 00:25:22.809 would have been okay, but I just think that a 00:25:22.809 --> 00:25:25.109 red is super harsh, because I don't think that 00:25:25.109 --> 00:25:29.150 there was any, There wasn't any real cynical 00:25:29.150 --> 00:25:34.130 intent from New Who. And I think, like, you know, 00:25:34.150 --> 00:25:36.410 he's defending. He's trying to clear the ball. 00:25:36.670 --> 00:25:41.029 He got there first. That should be, you know, 00:25:41.029 --> 00:25:44.230 case closed. He wasn't trying to hurt Peck. I 00:25:44.230 --> 00:25:46.049 mean, it was clear that he wasn't trying to hurt 00:25:46.049 --> 00:25:51.069 Peck. So I thought it was harsh. But then again, 00:25:51.190 --> 00:25:54.579 I think maybe if... you know you do make a hard 00:25:54.579 --> 00:25:56.859 challenge like that and it's already a yellow 00:25:56.859 --> 00:26:01.099 maybe that's just how it's officiated that they 00:26:01.099 --> 00:26:05.920 want to cancel that kind of challenge out from 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.180 the game even though he wasn't trying to do anything 00:26:08.180 --> 00:26:10.680 and so it's like yeah of course it's going to 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:15.480 get upgraded to a red so i don't know i guess 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.559 i'm kind of on the fence but i don't think that 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:22.640 there was any ill intent from new who and he 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.980 got there first like yeah it's a hard challenge 00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:28.759 but also you know peck knew what he was doing 00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:36.380 when he went down so yeah i yeah i i but at the 00:26:36.380 --> 00:26:38.740 end of the day i don't think it should have been 00:26:38.740 --> 00:26:46.059 a red yeah i mean i i think for me it seems a 00:26:46.059 --> 00:26:49.990 little harsh i also Don't like that they went 00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:51.990 back and called it if they'd called a red on 00:26:51.990 --> 00:26:54.170 the field I would have been a lot more okay with 00:26:54.170 --> 00:26:57.809 it But also you can't put yourself in that position 00:26:57.809 --> 00:27:00.029 and knew who was brilliant all game long for 00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:02.849 the most part so I'm not that worried about it, 00:27:02.930 --> 00:27:08.609 but You just can't you can't First off you don't 00:27:08.609 --> 00:27:11.289 need to go to the ground in that position Could 00:27:11.289 --> 00:27:13.690 have stayed up. He had position on him. He's 00:27:13.690 --> 00:27:15.950 not gonna be able to get by him stay standing 00:27:16.619 --> 00:27:18.880 Kick it out of bounds. Didn't need to go to ground. 00:27:19.059 --> 00:27:21.099 That would have prevented him from coming studs 00:27:21.099 --> 00:27:23.819 up because when he went to ground, his leg shot 00:27:23.819 --> 00:27:26.799 up. And you're right. He didn't scissor kick 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.680 him. The second leg didn't come through. But 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.839 his studs did hit him directly. So I see why 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.220 they called it. I don't like the call. All the 00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:37.960 texts I got immediately after from people actually 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.839 around the world, people texting me from Denver, 00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:42.640 Colorado, from Uruguay, from other places, they 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.299 were like, that's not a red card. No, and these 00:27:45.299 --> 00:27:49.819 are people who play soccer. So, I get it. Like, 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.299 I get it. It's frustrating that we're in that 00:27:53.299 --> 00:27:55.160 position, and now we're going to lose to having 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:59.140 him against Messi. You know, maybe Messi plays 00:27:59.140 --> 00:28:00.539 more in the center, and so he wouldn't really 00:28:00.539 --> 00:28:04.140 be on that side much, but definitely a player 00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:06.900 we could have used in that final match. But, 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.920 you know, I think the crowd's going to be up, 00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:13.259 and it'll be a pretty crazy game. So, Dan, let's 00:28:13.259 --> 00:28:15.720 go to you, because... Clearly you've had a long 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:20.200 day. You're ready to go to sleep. It is past 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.000 my bedtime. I'm old and I've got to go to the 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:27.000 office tomorrow, so I'll be fine. But, yeah, 00:28:27.099 --> 00:28:31.319 what's up? So, I mean, red card, but make it 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.339 out. What are you thinking now moving forward? 00:28:35.579 --> 00:28:38.380 Sounders, make it to the final. You're going 00:28:38.380 --> 00:28:40.740 to try and find a way up here. Are they going 00:28:40.740 --> 00:28:41.920 to be able to win? Are they going to be able 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.190 to take on this messy team? Yeah, they can win. 00:28:44.769 --> 00:28:51.430 Are they going to win? Probably. Maybe. I don't 00:28:51.430 --> 00:28:52.769 think they're going to be the odds -on favorite 00:28:52.769 --> 00:28:56.309 to win. But absolutely, I think they can win. 00:28:56.529 --> 00:29:01.329 I think losing Nuhu is the – it is just another 00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:05.549 – what's the right way to say it? It's kind of 00:29:05.549 --> 00:29:08.680 the story of the season is the next man up. But, 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.299 you know, it's not a surprise that we're going 00:29:10.299 --> 00:29:12.740 to be going down with one of our better lockdown 00:29:12.740 --> 00:29:17.559 defenders. And our primary nine is not going 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.900 to be on the field against Messi. And I still 00:29:19.900 --> 00:29:24.200 think we have a chance to win. Do you think that 00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:28.519 maybe we discovered that we have a forward that 00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.339 we could put in at the nine when we take out 00:29:30.339 --> 00:29:33.099 Osase and Jackson Reagan? and the way he took 00:29:33.099 --> 00:29:36.500 that ball into the box. Yeah, he had three defenders 00:29:36.500 --> 00:29:40.259 on him too, drilling through it. And we know 00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:44.019 Thomas can shoot too, so maybe we'll just flip 00:29:44.019 --> 00:29:48.940 the field on him, play backwards. I'm looking 00:29:48.940 --> 00:29:51.619 up the odds right now to see if the betting lines 00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:57.380 are already out, and it looks like, no, that's 00:29:57.380 --> 00:30:00.779 for the next match, because this is a match that 00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:05.890 is... non -conference, meaning not in the league. 00:30:06.069 --> 00:30:09.789 The betting wasn't already on top of it. So we'll 00:30:09.789 --> 00:30:11.710 have to wait until the next episode to discuss 00:30:11.710 --> 00:30:14.890 point spreads and all that kind of stuff. But 00:30:14.890 --> 00:30:19.289 I was curious to see what it would be. Oh wait, 00:30:19.390 --> 00:30:21.809 maybe this site has done it already? Are they 00:30:21.809 --> 00:30:24.589 on Vegas time? Or are they on... They are not. 00:30:24.670 --> 00:30:29.440 They just postponed our matches. Sadly, we will 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.960 not know that right now, what the odds are without 00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:34.220 Nuhu. But Cedar, you think we're going to come 00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:40.680 through in this? Or will it be messy magic, whether 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.119 it's with the ref or not, at the end of the day? 00:30:44.099 --> 00:30:47.599 I think we can come through. I mean, obviously, 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:50.779 we're shorthanded. It's not like we have our 00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:56.900 first -choice lineup rolling out there. But I 00:30:56.900 --> 00:31:00.799 kind of like that. I mean, after the game, they 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.980 interviewed D -Ro, and he was like, yeah, I'm 00:31:04.980 --> 00:31:08.019 excited for Sunday. I love that. I mean, he's 00:31:08.019 --> 00:31:12.259 just a kid, and he's ready. He's ready to go. 00:31:12.619 --> 00:31:16.140 I love that attitude. I mean, you know, again, 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.960 it's soccer. You know, it's a game. Who cares? 00:31:19.140 --> 00:31:20.980 Like, let's go out there. Let's have some fun. 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.779 Let's see what we can do against the greatest 00:31:23.779 --> 00:31:29.269 of all time. I love that we're probably going 00:31:29.269 --> 00:31:33.609 to be the underdogs. I think Seattle sports teams 00:31:33.609 --> 00:31:37.470 fare better when we're the underdogs. It just 00:31:37.470 --> 00:31:42.609 fits us. Like week one against the Niners, the 00:31:42.609 --> 00:31:46.730 Seattle Seahawks. A lot of people are picking 00:31:46.730 --> 00:31:49.380 the Niners. I'm like, all right, let's go. Let's 00:31:49.380 --> 00:31:52.880 go. I love that. It's crazy talk. I know it's 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.740 crazy talk, but it's also week one. Who knows 00:31:54.740 --> 00:31:56.980 what's going to happen? But I think against Miami, 00:31:57.259 --> 00:32:00.180 of course, everybody's going to pick Messi, right? 00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:02.279 I mean, that's going to be the betting favorite. 00:32:02.619 --> 00:32:05.279 I mean, they have more star power. They have 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:10.339 more talent on the whole than we do, but we're 00:32:10.339 --> 00:32:13.640 going to be at home. We're going to be up for 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.640 it. I mean, we've come this far in League's Cup. 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:22.359 It doesn't matter, you know, from D -Ro to, you 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.660 know, Cody Baker. I mean, everybody's going to 00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:27.740 be up for it, you know. And the funny thing is, 00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:30.859 yeah, we've got a lot of just kids from the academy 00:32:30.859 --> 00:32:34.660 going to be rolling out there and led by Christian, 00:32:34.980 --> 00:32:40.220 right? So I'm down for it. Let's do it. I mean, 00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:44.900 that would be great if we could beat the Messy 00:32:44.900 --> 00:32:51.160 Machine. Unfortunately for Dan, the Cowboys are 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.859 underdogs by seven points in their Thursday night 00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:57.400 opener against the Philadelphia Eagles. No, that's 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:02.339 great because I drafted the Eagles defense. Oh, 00:33:02.339 --> 00:33:09.880 nice. Good for me. So, Alex, is the Dan base 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.619 going to show up for this match in Seattle on 00:33:12.619 --> 00:33:15.140 Sunday? Oh, you better believe it. ECS sold out. 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:20.089 Yep. How much is a resale ticket in ECS right 00:33:20.089 --> 00:33:22.769 now? I just sent this. I think it was like $528. 00:33:23.029 --> 00:33:29.329 I sent you guys a message. $500 .28? $5. Wow. 00:33:31.269 --> 00:33:34.029 I'm on cloud nine right now. It's a good thing 00:33:34.029 --> 00:33:37.279 I put in PTO for tomorrow. They'll be, they'll 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.779 be, you don't need to sit. I mean, it'd be great 00:33:39.779 --> 00:33:41.579 to sit in UCS, right? But there's other places 00:33:41.579 --> 00:33:42.960 in this. They're going to open the full stadium. 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.200 There's no way they can't. Does Lumen sell out? 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.839 Does Lumen sell out? That's the question. 68k 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.599 in the stadium would be crazy. Oh, man. That 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.920 would, I mean, that's the last time we had that, 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.079 that I remember of that level is the CONCACAF 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.809 Champions League final, right? It's big. The 00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:08.389 real question is, can we get 68 ,000 people to 00:34:08.389 --> 00:34:11.170 see Pink Phony Club? Because that would make 00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:13.710 my night. You've got to go in there with the 00:34:13.710 --> 00:34:17.610 megaphone. You've got to sell a kidney or have 00:34:17.610 --> 00:34:22.989 China pay the ticket or something. We did get 00:34:22.989 --> 00:34:28.190 some comments from the peanut gallery. I mean, 00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:31.469 the Scuttlebutt mailbag. As Tim Hamilton asked, 00:34:31.610 --> 00:34:34.130 is anyone coming back for injury? from injury. 00:34:34.289 --> 00:34:37.690 Um, I don't think Russ snack, I don't think they're 00:34:37.690 --> 00:34:40.050 going to rush him back for that game. In theory, 00:34:40.170 --> 00:34:42.369 I think this would be the first game where they 00:34:42.369 --> 00:34:45.289 said he might be available when he first, when 00:34:45.289 --> 00:34:47.949 they first disclosed the injury in full. Uh, 00:34:48.130 --> 00:34:50.809 but I don't, I don't think you rush him back 00:34:50.809 --> 00:34:54.550 for this when Jesus was incredible. These last 00:34:54.550 --> 00:34:57.889 couple of matches and, uh, we're in the, in the 00:34:57.889 --> 00:35:00.690 least cup. And then you have Danny, I mean, doing 00:35:00.690 --> 00:35:04.889 everything he's been doing. Dan, you don't bring 00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:07.289 him back, right? No. You keep going. No, you 00:35:07.289 --> 00:35:11.750 let him heal, and then you absolutely bring him 00:35:11.750 --> 00:35:14.030 back when he's ready, but no reason to rush him 00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:16.429 back for this. Leyva had a great game, didn't 00:35:16.429 --> 00:35:18.829 he? I mean, he came on there, what, 60th minute, 00:35:18.969 --> 00:35:21.170 and just he was all over the field. The announcers 00:35:21.170 --> 00:35:23.530 even clocked and just said that he's making plays 00:35:23.530 --> 00:35:28.440 everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Tim also pointed 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.480 out that during the CCL final, the Sounders lost 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.300 both JP and Nuhu in that match and still won 00:35:34.300 --> 00:35:37.380 3 -0. But can we stop shooting ourselves in the 00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:42.239 foot? Is this a game, Alex, where we can't have 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.739 the Osaze, Jesus, other style misses that we 00:35:45.739 --> 00:35:48.940 have to finish these chances? Because I feel 00:35:48.940 --> 00:35:51.219 like if you leave the door open for Messi, he 00:35:51.219 --> 00:35:54.280 and Jordi Alba and company, although Jordi Alba 00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.579 did come up a little injured there at the end. 00:35:57.670 --> 00:36:00.690 But they seem to take those opportunities and 00:36:00.690 --> 00:36:02.869 crush the opponents when they're given a chance. 00:36:03.650 --> 00:36:06.789 No, I think that Miami's going to play us very 00:36:06.789 --> 00:36:10.050 open. They're going to leave us a lot of space 00:36:10.050 --> 00:36:12.510 to attack, and we have to take our chances because 00:36:12.510 --> 00:36:15.469 we've seen Suarez, even though he has two bannies, 00:36:15.550 --> 00:36:18.489 he's still able to finish inside the box. He's 00:36:18.489 --> 00:36:21.409 still a lethal killer. And they're going to make 00:36:21.409 --> 00:36:23.690 us pay with those chances. As much as I love 00:36:23.690 --> 00:36:26.070 Thomas, I know that he's not able to save them 00:36:26.070 --> 00:36:29.099 all. So like those two misses... No goalies saved 00:36:29.099 --> 00:36:32.239 some of those messy shots. The penalty today, 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.780 no one was saving. The only way that you're saving 00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:36.820 that shot is if it hits the post or the crossbar. 00:36:37.460 --> 00:36:39.840 So we have to be able to finish our chances. 00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:42.800 Because if not, it's going to haunt us. And it's 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.019 going to kill us. And it's the hope that kills 00:36:45.019 --> 00:36:47.119 us. Because right now, we're very hopeful. We're 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.599 going to be the underdogs for sure. And we're 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.130 going to play with a chip on our shoulder. but 00:36:52.130 --> 00:36:55.010 I know that this team is able to compete with 00:36:55.010 --> 00:36:56.489 any team in the league. We've seen that with 00:36:56.489 --> 00:36:59.650 Club World Cup. All the people can say that it 00:36:59.650 --> 00:37:01.590 was a disaster. We didn't get no points, but 00:37:01.590 --> 00:37:03.710 guess what? We were in the group of death, and 00:37:03.710 --> 00:37:07.849 we held our own. Yeah. No, I mean, I think the 00:37:07.849 --> 00:37:09.489 announcers mentioned it today, and it's something 00:37:09.489 --> 00:37:11.389 we've been saying for a while. The confidence 00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:13.989 that came out of that tournament shows. I don't 00:37:13.989 --> 00:37:15.269 think the Sounders turned their season around 00:37:15.269 --> 00:37:17.070 if they hadn't played that tournament, which 00:37:17.070 --> 00:37:19.309 is funny to think what it was like going into 00:37:19.309 --> 00:37:21.340 that tournament. And then losing all those matches. 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.340 And yet, those losses have made it so they've 00:37:24.340 --> 00:37:28.239 lost, what, one game since then? Yeah. Out of, 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.139 what, 13, 15? Which was, what, Minnesota? Away 00:37:31.139 --> 00:37:34.519 from home? Yeah. Which they're above us, so we 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:38.460 were the underdog going into that match, too. 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:45.780 I just think that I expected PSG to mop the floor 00:37:45.780 --> 00:37:49.480 with us, and they didn't. And I expected us to 00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.019 get mopped in the global cup and we didn't and 00:37:52.019 --> 00:37:55.699 it just goes goes to show you that Crave Bible 00:37:55.699 --> 00:37:58.059 was cooking with his roster. We just have bad 00:37:58.059 --> 00:38:03.760 taste But I do believe that this team healthy 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:08.059 Can actually like do something and if we're able 00:38:08.059 --> 00:38:10.719 to win these cup Which I want them to leaks win 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.460 league scope because that's the trophy we haven't 00:38:12.460 --> 00:38:16.179 won Then, you know what? At least we went out. 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.400 We got a trophy. We got a Champions League spot. 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.659 And then an MLS Cup. We're playing with house 00:38:24.659 --> 00:38:29.639 money. Yeah, totally. And I think that's the 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.920 point. Now we're into Sounders. Scuttlebutt after 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:37.699 dark. Cedar. Doesn't matter what happens on Sunday. 00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:41.900 We're going to Champions Cup. Sounders are back 00:38:41.900 --> 00:38:45.699 in CONCACAF. What does that mean to our team, 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.539 do you think? I think that's huge. I think not 00:38:49.539 --> 00:38:53.760 only competing in the Champions League, but then 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.460 winning it, and then getting to be a part of 00:38:58.460 --> 00:39:03.000 the Club World Cup, the new Club World Cup. I 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.039 mean, I think all of us want to go back to that, 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:11.739 right? I mean, what a cool... It ended up being 00:39:11.739 --> 00:39:14.099 a really cool competition, and I think we want 00:39:14.099 --> 00:39:21.039 to be a part of the next one. And I think we're 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.280 perfectly capable of getting back there. So now 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.099 we've punched our ticket, which is good. And 00:39:28.099 --> 00:39:31.159 now we have an opportunity to win, like you guys 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.460 were saying, a trophy we've never won before. 00:39:34.820 --> 00:39:38.210 And, I mean, that would be great. That would 00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:41.989 be really, really, really nice against, you know, 00:39:41.989 --> 00:39:46.110 against Messi and Suarez and Jordi Alba and Busquets 00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:51.230 and, you know, Javier Mascherano and all of his, 00:39:51.349 --> 00:39:54.869 you know. Oh, wait. Is he banned from the final 00:39:54.869 --> 00:39:58.070 because of his red card? I don't think they banned 00:39:58.070 --> 00:40:00.710 him. No, he was banned from his past game, right? 00:40:02.369 --> 00:40:08.039 Yeah. But... I mean, that whole, in the quarterfinal, 00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.300 when he was just, they banned, they gave him 00:40:10.300 --> 00:40:11.920 a red card at halftime, and then he was just 00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:16.300 sitting right above the bench in this stance. 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.980 I mean, that was hilarious. I mean, that's so 00:40:19.980 --> 00:40:22.599 great. You can see him on the phone. I mean, 00:40:22.659 --> 00:40:28.300 that's really, really funny. No, I mean, it would 00:40:28.300 --> 00:40:31.699 be hilarious if we beat Inter -Miami. I mean, 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.239 it would be really funny to me. I would love 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:38.050 that. I would love nothing more. And if we lose, 00:40:38.190 --> 00:40:40.789 you know, it's like, okay, well, whatever. I 00:40:40.789 --> 00:40:43.489 mean, we've got our, you know, we've got a bunch 00:40:43.489 --> 00:40:48.150 of our academy kids out against them, you know. 00:40:49.429 --> 00:40:51.829 Which is no excuse, but it's just like, it is 00:40:51.829 --> 00:40:54.909 what it is. I mean, we've suffered more injuries 00:40:54.909 --> 00:40:58.449 than any of the other top teams in MLS so far. 00:40:58.590 --> 00:41:03.670 So, you know, like... Like you guys were saying, 00:41:03.829 --> 00:41:07.650 how's money? I'm just excited. I'm excited for 00:41:07.650 --> 00:41:11.869 Sunday. I think it could be a night to remember, 00:41:12.130 --> 00:41:18.130 truly. Yeah, and you're hearing that right, folks. 00:41:18.730 --> 00:41:20.650 We'll see if it still comes through after the 00:41:20.650 --> 00:41:23.530 editing, but that is the wind because Cedar's 00:41:23.530 --> 00:41:29.630 outside braving the weather in order to... come 00:41:29.630 --> 00:41:32.570 and talk to you all because that's how important 00:41:32.570 --> 00:41:34.150 this is. And that's why we're going to leave 00:41:34.150 --> 00:41:37.710 the final comment here to Dan before he is completely 00:41:37.710 --> 00:41:42.570 asleep and let him get a little spicy here and 00:41:42.570 --> 00:41:48.030 say, what, what do you think the rest of the 00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:50.130 MLS fans are going to do right now? Because they 00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:52.170 always want messy to lose, but the other team 00:41:52.170 --> 00:41:54.969 they tend to hate in the MLS is Seattle. Who 00:41:54.969 --> 00:41:56.650 do you think, do you think this is the time where 00:41:56.650 --> 00:42:00.619 they're all suddenly Seattle fans? I think this 00:42:00.619 --> 00:42:04.119 could be framed as the American story of the 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.760 little guy versus the big guy. You have a bunch 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.239 of hometown heroes playing in Seattle, going 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:13.420 up against this world superstar that is what, 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.659 a billionaire? I mean, he's got to be worth billions, 00:42:15.739 --> 00:42:17.840 right? Living in a mansion in Florida, right 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.079 next to Mar -a -Lago, just hanging out, doing 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.860 his thing. And he's going to come up here to 00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:25.599 a blue collar town. Well, okay, it's a tech town 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.780 now, but a town with blue collar roots. Yep. 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.360 And play guys that went to high school here. 00:42:32.739 --> 00:42:38.900 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Paul Rothrock went to Lakeside. 00:42:40.179 --> 00:42:42.619 Reagan went to university prep. Jordan, I mean, 00:42:42.619 --> 00:42:46.539 he's not playing, but went across the water at 00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:50.119 Mercer Island. You've got Alex went to Seattle 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:55.039 U. Christian went to UW. It's just this total. 00:42:56.579 --> 00:42:59.360 local connection, which is not Miami at all. 00:43:00.099 --> 00:43:02.940 Yeah. I, I mean, we could, a guy still in high 00:43:02.940 --> 00:43:04.780 school could see the field, right? Not everyone 00:43:04.780 --> 00:43:06.659 else still in high school. Did he graduate early? 00:43:06.780 --> 00:43:09.820 Yeah. And he scored twice. Yeah. I think he's 00:43:09.820 --> 00:43:12.340 just, he's 18 right now. So he could be a senior 00:43:12.340 --> 00:43:15.699 year. I don't know. So, yeah. And, and he's has 00:43:15.699 --> 00:43:19.119 a chance to see the field against messy. And 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.920 I, I, it's a, you know, a chance to win the game. 00:43:24.300 --> 00:43:28.500 Yeah. I guess we've got to get predictions from 00:43:28.500 --> 00:43:30.440 everyone in the final since we probably will 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.320 not record before then since it is Sunday night. 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.519 Dan, you're already talking. What's happening? 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.179 What's the final score? Who wins? Seattle goes 00:43:38.179 --> 00:43:43.019 in the locker room up 2 -0. They end up winning 00:43:43.019 --> 00:43:50.300 3 -2 on a last -minute shot by Georgie. I'm glad 00:43:50.300 --> 00:43:55.480 they meant Seattle. I wasn't sure there. Alex. 00:43:56.269 --> 00:43:58.269 What's your prediction for the Sunday final? 00:43:58.389 --> 00:44:02.929 Saunders by a million. That's some confidence. 00:44:03.170 --> 00:44:08.170 No. What's your real prediction? I think Saunders 00:44:08.170 --> 00:44:12.369 3 -2 or 4 -2. It's going to be close. We're going 00:44:12.369 --> 00:44:14.489 to have the lead. They're going to come back. 00:44:15.110 --> 00:44:17.110 They might go ahead. We'll come back. And then 00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:21.369 the last 10 minutes, it's up in the air. As long 00:44:21.369 --> 00:44:25.449 as we don't sub off Pedro early. Today was okay 00:44:25.449 --> 00:44:28.849 because we were up by enough goals. I was not 00:44:28.849 --> 00:44:32.489 feeling okay until the end of the game. Oh, we 00:44:32.489 --> 00:44:35.050 lost Cedar, so we're not going to get his score 00:44:35.050 --> 00:44:38.429 result. He says Saunders win by a million, so 00:44:38.429 --> 00:44:42.710 it's all fine. Yeah, it works. I'll say mine, 00:44:42.829 --> 00:44:44.650 and then if he pops back on, it'll be easy to 00:44:44.650 --> 00:44:47.969 get it back in at the end. I'm going to go Saunders 00:44:47.969 --> 00:44:52.929 up 2 -0 in the 75th minute. Miami ties it, sends 00:44:52.929 --> 00:44:57.880 it to penalties. and Sounders win when Andy Thomas 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.519 hits a penalty, and it's going to be like the 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.239 ninth or tenth penalty, and Sounders are going 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.159 to go through and win on penalties with Andy 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:11.239 Thomas being carried off the field and starting 00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:13.199 every game from now on because you can't not 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.860 start him after that. Thank you. Please, thank 00:45:15.860 --> 00:45:19.679 you. Someone finally agrees. Finally. His hair 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:23.380 is so fine. Not only that, his PK saves are so 00:45:23.380 --> 00:45:27.690 fine. Yeah, absolutely. So what we'll do is join 00:45:27.690 --> 00:45:29.969 our Discord. That's a place where everything 00:45:29.969 --> 00:45:33.710 happens. And you can see it here in the show 00:45:33.710 --> 00:45:37.630 notes. And you'll be able to see Cedar's prediction 00:45:37.630 --> 00:45:40.989 there and get some good in -game banter. We, 00:45:41.010 --> 00:45:42.489 of course, have a Sounders Match Day channel 00:45:42.489 --> 00:45:45.869 where everyone comes in and talks and can have 00:45:45.869 --> 00:45:48.449 fun in there and then talking throughout the 00:45:48.449 --> 00:45:51.289 week. And also, you know, there's some good non 00:45:51.289 --> 00:45:53.630 -Sounders talk that goes on there, too. Oh, yes. 00:45:54.489 --> 00:45:58.929 He's back. He's back. Yes, he's back. I'm back. 00:45:59.010 --> 00:46:01.289 Just in time to give your final prediction. What 00:46:01.289 --> 00:46:05.269 is the score going to be in the final match there? 00:46:07.070 --> 00:46:12.250 Oh, man. I feel like Miami is going to score 00:46:12.250 --> 00:46:16.480 at least two goals. I'm going to say 3 -2. We 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.659 come out on top. We hold on. We all have rose 00:46:21.659 --> 00:46:23.699 -colored, rose -tinted glasses as we're all picking 00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:27.360 wins. You missed 3 -2, 4 -2, and I said Andy 00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.139 Thomas kicks the game -winning penalty in the 00:46:30.139 --> 00:46:33.179 9th or 10th penalty, I think I said, 8th or 9th. 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.800 Beautiful. He probably wouldn't shoot that late 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.880 because he's good. We'll say 8th. Yeah, so it's 00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:43.599 going to be fun. If you can make it out to the 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:48.000 match, make it. Some of us, maybe all of us will 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:49.940 be there if we can convince Cedar to sell a kidney 00:46:49.940 --> 00:46:54.000 and come up from the bay. And it'll be good times. 00:46:54.260 --> 00:46:56.239 Damn, I need to sell one too. Do I need all my 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.900 kidneys? Probably not. No, you only need one. 00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.840 Yeah, you can sell your gallbladder. There we 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.820 go. If you're drinking organic beer, you'll be 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:08.699 fine. Yeah. Can you sell your kids' kidneys? 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.880 You only need one ball. Are you asking your wife? 00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:20.579 Is that why you picked up your phone? Let's get 00:47:20.579 --> 00:47:22.639 out of here. Let's let everyone go to bed. It's 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:27.480 getting late here. And we'll just say, yeah, 00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:31.480 join the Discord, join the Patreon. We'll see 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:44.989 everybody on Sunday. Bye. 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The Seattle 00:48:28.460 --> 00:48:30.460 Sounders are both unequivocally and incredibly 00:48:30.460 --> 00:48:32.760 the best MLS team of all time.