It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes
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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,
your moment. Hello and welcome to Sounders Scuttlebutt.
I'm one of your hosts, Cameron Collins. We are
here with the Ultras today, tonight, this evening,
late at night, 10 .30 p .m. What are you popping?
Oh, you were so thirsty, you popped that drink
right away, Cedar. Patagonia beer? Yeah, Patagonia
beer. It's an organic lager. And it's brewed
with a sustainable grain. So, yeah, you know
what? That sounds a lot better than Alex's Michelob
Ultra right there. It's like water. And Dan,
I presume you have some natty ice? No, all of
mine was green. I got my liquid death shout out
to those of you not drinking while you're listening.
Hey, hey. Although you should be drinking because
we are here tonight to celebrate Grimsby Town's...
12 -11 penalty victory over Man United. Let's
go! The best part about that? The interview with
the Grimsby townkeeper. Yes, yes. Yeah, he's
a Man U fan. And he was disappointed in Man U's
performance. And he just beat them. I love that.
He cares more about Man U than probably the players
on Man U. I mean, wow, you can't make this stuff
up. They're currently fourth in the Football
League 2 right now, a point behind second. I
can't see who's in first at the moment because
my standings are a little messed up. Crew Alexander's
in first, also a point ahead of them. So five
games in the season. They are doing pretty well.
They've been around since 1878. Another team
that's been around since the 70s but the 1970s
is your Seattle Sounders. Victorious tonight
versus LA Galaxy. not without some very interesting
things happening in a game that I was surprisingly
nervous. Alex, you seem pretty confident going
in. How did the rest of y 'all feel? Yeah, I
felt pretty good going in, too. It just seems
like the Sounders are really starting to put
some stuff together, and I figured LA wasn't
going to play in a low block, so we'd be okay.
Jesus Christ. Ticketmaster Watch. Cheapest tickets,
$2 .30. $2 .30? Is that resale? Cheapest tickets
for one ticket, $420. In section 123. 123. Isn't
that ECS section? That's right above. Jesus Christ.
Wow. Maybe I should... I'm not going to, but
maybe I should move my tickets up. Get those
up on that market so I can... Man, seeing Messi
in a final, though. We're jumping ahead here.
Cedar, how did you feel coming into the game?
I felt pretty good. Yeah, I felt reasonably optimistic
just because we had literally just played Galaxy,
beat them 4 -0, right? I mean, it was going to
be a tough match no matter what because this
is the... This is the competition that they were
alive in, not MLS, you know, regular season.
But, no, I felt good. I mean, and we showed it.
We were the better team on the day. I mean, it
wasn't like you alluded to. It wasn't without
its dramatic moments. But, no, I felt pretty
good going into it. How about you, Alex? You
were pretty confident coming in. All but guaranteed
a win. What were you actually feeling in those
moments leading up to the match? No, I know that
we missed a lot of easy chances. Like, I was
telling my buddies, I'm like, D -Ro missed the
easiest shots, but he scored the hardest one
out of the three that he had. And I was like,
when I told my buddies when Pedro scored near
post, I'm like, see, that's why you shoot near
post. Don't put it in the middle where the keeper's
diving. Put it on the post. Yeah, that was an
interesting play, though. And let's get back
to it, though. Let's back up real quick before
we go to that. Sounders start out strong, immediately
pressuring. A couple good shots right out the
bat. But it took a minute for us to score, or
seven to be exact. But seven minutes in, the
Sounders could have already been up 1 -0. Suddenly,
what easily could have been called a penalty,
they let them play on and Pedro scores. What
are you seeing in that, Alex, since you brought
up his goal? No, I just thought that it was either
going to be a PK or it was going to end up in
a goal. And I'm glad that Pedro scored because
we're all in the feed Pedro movement. Yeah. And
I told my buddy, I'm like, and everybody that
called him a bust last year because he was hurt.
I'm like, we buy a left winger. We play him on
the right side. And then next, you know, we play
him on the left. And next, you know, he unlocks
the offense. And this was going to be the game
with Mussovsky out that either Pedro, Jesus,
or Rothrock had to be like, you know what? Like,
I'm going to put this team on my back and I'm
going to go and win this game for us. And Pedro
said, you know what? I got this. I'm going to
put this in. Put us up 1 -0. And after that,
we're going to keep fighting. And we're going
to look to get the second. Maybe get a third.
But we got to make sure we lock it down in the
back. It was a great overall team performance.
Absolutely. So, Dan, what's bigger news in your
household this week? Sounders advancing to the
League's Cup Final to play against Messi. or
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey getting engaged?
Oh, they're going to get engaged? I mean, they
got engaged. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, that's
exciting. I wasn't checking that. I try to stay
off the social medias and current events because
it elicits an anger issue from me. Yeah, I can
understand why. Did you hear about the CDC director
getting ousted today? No, no, I did not. How
did that go? They wanted folks to get vaccinated,
huh? Terrible. Yeah, no, yep, yep. They're trying
to pull the COVID vaccine. As someone who's been
vaxxed eight times and got it three other times
for a total of 11 vaccinations, I need to keep
that going since I'm immunocompromised. I know
too many people that have had it recently. I
actually wore a mask today on the train on the
way to the Mariners game where the Mariners swept
San Diego. Or did we win two out of three? Well,
I think we won two out of three, but we won the
veteran cup yesterday. Let's go. We worked out.
Mariners won. It's been a good day for Seattle
sports. What did you see on that first goal from
Pedro, though, Dan? Well, I think somebody on
L .A. needs a vaccine now because that goal was
sick. That's it. That's all I got. That was it.
Shot my whole load. No, it was just – the thing
that kept coming to mind, especially like the
first 20 minutes out the gate, even the way that
we started with D -Row going short to Jesus and
then everybody rushing forward and going ahead
and playing possession aggressively on their
side of the pitch was just relentless. I don't
feel like the Sounders celebrated much after
their win. What was it, Saturday? Sunday. Yeah,
their win Sunday. They were like – you see that
press conference with – Or the after -game locker
room speech of Brian Smithster saying, let's
fucking go, Sounders. They brought the same energy,
that they are bigger, stronger, faster, and better
than you. And that's what they believe right
now, and it shows on the field. Yeah, yeah. Cedar,
what about you? What were you feeling after that
first goal? Was that the end of the game for
you, or did you think it was going to be so nervy?
I mean... To be honest, I was at work. I wrapped
up just a little bit before the first half ended.
I knew the goal had happened. Once I got off
work, I went over to my parents' place. I finished
the first half. Once halftime rolled around,
I went back and watched that first goal. You
know, my dad had said, he was like, that goal
doesn't happen without Rothrock. Like, not that
he got an assist or anything, but he, just his
hustle. Like, he does not quit on any play. And
I go back, I watch it, I'm like, yep, that looks
about right. I mean, it's just little details
like that where, you know, especially a guy like
Rothrock. But all those guys, everybody was just
fighting for everything. And Pedro was there.
right place, right time. And he didn't even let
the ball bounce. You know, he's like, I'm hitting
this right now. And how are you going to react
to that? Especially if he doesn't let you, you
know, have any time to react to it. So yeah,
absolutely beautiful. Great way to kick things
off. But obviously after that seven minutes in,
I mean, how, you know, I mean, in a way it almost
gets harder because, you know, you know, galaxy
is coming for you. So. No, it was an uphill battle
the whole way. But yeah, great way to start it
out. Yeah, I mean, I think it felt like it was
going to be one of those games early on where
we continuously had chances and couldn't finish.
And it continued to feel like that after we finally
got the goal. And at halftime, we come out 1
-0, but their fans are booing. Were they booing
their team or were they booing the ref? I wasn't
so sure. They seemed unhappy with the ref, but
I don't think, at least at that point, many of
his calls, other than maybe the yellow card,
the double yellow he gave to Out and Rothrock,
I didn't think those were bad cards. I think
they were pretty good. I think they were booing
anything that walked. I think they were booing
the ref. I think they were booing their team.
There was boos after missed shots. There was
boos after wasted possession. There was boos
after, you know, whenever Thomas got the ball
and would hold it a little bit. So they were
just booing anything and everything. They're
probably a pretty unhappy group right now if
you were to turn on their podcast, I would imagine,
because we just dominated even when we went down
a man. There wasn't a lot of times. It was just
the right amount of anxiety for it to still be
fun, if that makes sense, right? Like, yeah,
I'm a little anxious, but this is fun, and we're
physically dominating. I mean, I think we finished
with 2 .53 goals, according to Apple. 2 .53 expected
goals to there, below one, well below one. So,
I mean, it went pretty much to plan, I suppose.
Cedar, you pointed out that their coach used
to be the Sounders announcer in our inaugural
re -air doing color commentary with Kevin Calabro.
Do you think that played at all into his poor
coaching in this match? Yeah, like he has a soft
spot for us. No, he definitely doesn't have a
soft spot because he's tried to beat us in, what,
three MLS Cups? So, you know. No, I just think
that's such an interesting wrinkle into just
this history that we have. But then somebody
else pointed out, I think it was Nicholas, that
our coaching staff in that inaugural MLS season
had a lot of former LA Galaxy people in it. And
Greg Vanney obviously used to play for LA Galaxy,
if I'm not mistaken. And so it was just kind
of like... He came along with the whole kit and
caboodle, as I understand it. But, yeah, it's
just such an interesting history there. But,
I mean, good for him to get into coaching after
all that. He's not, clearly, he's not a terrible
coach. He's done the thing. It's just they're
having a crazy season right now, and they're
just not. They're just not anywhere close to
where, obviously, they would want to be. But
I don't feel bad for them. I mean, we could have,
if it wasn't for one mistake last year in the
Western Conference final, we would have gone
to MLS Cup. And for my money, we would have beat
the New York Red Bulls. So not feeling too bad
about their fortunes. I think, yeah, that's definitely
the case. We would have beaten them. We've got
two more big moments in this match I think are
worth discussing. And the first is, of course,
the Osaze goal. Dan, I'm going to throw this
one over to you first. What? I mean, after Osaze,
it seems like he'd been so close in that match,
just couldn't get it done. But all night long,
the announcers were talking about his positioning,
his... his power with his body. What did you
think when you saw that goal? I thought that
it had been coming, and not as a dig to the kid,
but he kept doing the right thing and just didn't
have that final touch. We've seen that happen.
We've seen Jordan do stuff like that too. So
you just keep getting in the position. And then,
again, he was relentless. He wheeled the ball
through two defenders. And it was one of those
moments that you realize soccer is a lot of fun
when somebody does something like that with the
ball. Yeah. Alex, take us through it. What did
you see? I mean, you're a goalie, right? So you
see people running at you all the time. But he
started with his back to goal. Yeah, I just thought...
I was like, out of all the ones he... Out of
all the chances he created or had, I'm like,
you decide to actually score this one. I'm just
like... Assisted to himself. Yeah. Well, I mean,
if you technically... The Galaxy player, like,
hit it to... Try to hit it, and he whiffed it.
But I'm like, how do you score that one, but
you missed the other two? Yeah. Like, that one
is just... I'm just like, you choose the hardest
one to finish. And I watched the game at the
bar. And my buddies are like, we're going to
the final. And I'm just like, hold up, guys.
We blew on 3 -0 leads before. Let's just hold
our horses. There's still time left. Let's not
jump the gun. Let's just take it five minutes
at a time. A possession at a time. And then New
Who gets the red. And I know we're going to talk
about that. I don't think it's a red. But I think
it lands on the ref's description. If the ref
decides it's red, it's red. Like, what are we
going to do? I joked that Miami made the call.
They said, we got to get Nuhu out of the game
because if not, he's going to lock up Messi or
Suarez and Miami's not going to win. Shout out
to Diego from Uruguay who immediately, when that
happened, messaged me. The Messi mafia had their
way. Oh, yeah, for sure. They're afraid of Nuhu.
They call Messi the FIFA boy. Yeah. And I'm a
big Messi supporter, but not on Sunday. I'll
tell you that. Cedar, the Osase goal, it's not
something we've seen for a long time in Seattle.
I feel like we have finesse strikers. We don't
tend to have that big body who can kind of –
we've had players, I guess Kenny Cooper could
do it a little bit, Nate Jaco early on, but no
one with almost Jose Altidore -sized body that
can just kind of – shove people out of the way
with his body and not with his arms and just
force his way through. What did you think when
you saw that goal? Oh, totally. A thing with
me is I remember very few goals and stuff, even
though I've watched Sounders games for years
now. I don't have this catalog of moments that
other people seem to have. But that's definitely
a goal that'll stick with me just because it
was so, like, I mean, the circumstances of it,
you know, needing it in a moment like that. We're
only up 1 -0. And just, yeah, I can't remember
a cooler goal than that. I mean, you know, obviously
Pedro's, you know, goal off the half volley against
Cruz Azul was incredible, like, technically.
But just Osaze's goal tonight was... it was just
pure, like he just wanted it more, you know?
And he, he was like, I'm going to do this myself.
I'm, I'm almost glad that he, you know, he didn't
score the easier goals earlier on because obviously
butterfly effect, you know, he wouldn't have
had that opportunity that he actually had. Right.
I'm like, I'm glad he, he scored this one. Yeah.
What a, what a, what a great moment. I mean,
that was, that was. Absolutely incredible. Now
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Yeah, we started talking basketball. That is
not Sounders, but it was enjoyable. And how we
were kind of discussing, I think the easiest
thing you could say was how messy is the LeBron
James of the Lakers? Maybe the greatest of all
time, but not when he's on his current team.
Messy will be coming to town. But the Sounders
might be a little defensive shorthanded because,
oh boy, Nuhu got a red card. He slides, gets
the ball, slides through, hits that Neanderthal
Gabriel Peck, who I love as a player, but God,
he's hard to look at. And Peck just goes flying
and grabs his leg like he had just been shot
in a way that... You know, Manu Ginobili is appearing
right now because he knows that that is one of
the best dives you can ever do. And no one dove
better than Manu Ginobili, including any soccer
players. That dude was scum. Well, he's Italian,
so... How we feeling about that red card? I mean,
he's not a real Italian. He's one of the fascists
that moved to Argentina. Oh, that's right. His
family, at least. Sorry, I get tripped up when...
You know, all these Argentinians have Italian
names. Hey, I'm a Messi. Look at me. Hey. Pochettino.
Yeah, exactly. Dan, how are you feeling about
that red card? Is that a red card? Yeah, probably.
I don't love it, but yeah. He clipped him in
the knee, it looks like, with his cleat. So,
you know, the ref may have decided. It wasn't
like the craziest red card you've ever seen.
It's borderline red, but I would have gave it
a red. 83rd minute. Now, Cedar, we're going to
wait on you because you'll be the deciding vote
here. You'll decide it. You'll be the factor.
Alex, you say no red card. Give Gabriel Peck
an Oscar. Jesus Christ. I kind of think in those
instances where they fake the injury like that,
they should. they should not give them the foul
because it just encourages them to do that more
and more often when it clearly is. I mean, that
questionable penalty in the – I never saw a good
enough angle, I think, but in the earlier game
when Miami tied it, it was on like a total dive
by their forward in the box off the defender,
and it basically changed the entire game. Thankfully,
this didn't. But, Cedar, what about you? Was
that a red card or not? I think if you watch
the replay, Nuhu, he slides in to the ball. He
wins the ball. He's hitting the ball first. And
with the leg and the foot that he hits the ball,
that's what ends up hitting Gabriel Peck. In
a lot of those instances where you do get, where
you see in other games, other moments, people
get red cards for a reckless challenge, you'll
often see them clearly use their secondary leg,
the one that's not making contact with the ball,
being flung up, their spikes hitting the other
player, and it... it seeming like it's on purpose.
With Nuhu, he was going for the ball, and by
hell or by high water, right, he's going to get
the ball, and who's ever in the way, right? Peck
was, Peck didn't have to be right there, right?
I just think that it's, it was, maybe a yellow
would have been okay, but I just think that a
red is super harsh, because I don't think that
there was any, There wasn't any real cynical
intent from New Who. And I think, like, you know,
he's defending. He's trying to clear the ball.
He got there first. That should be, you know,
case closed. He wasn't trying to hurt Peck. I
mean, it was clear that he wasn't trying to hurt
Peck. So I thought it was harsh. But then again,
I think maybe if... you know you do make a hard
challenge like that and it's already a yellow
maybe that's just how it's officiated that they
want to cancel that kind of challenge out from
the game even though he wasn't trying to do anything
and so it's like yeah of course it's going to
get upgraded to a red so i don't know i guess
i'm kind of on the fence but i don't think that
there was any ill intent from new who and he
got there first like yeah it's a hard challenge
but also you know peck knew what he was doing
when he went down so yeah i yeah i i but at the
end of the day i don't think it should have been
a red yeah i mean i i think for me it seems a
little harsh i also Don't like that they went
back and called it if they'd called a red on
the field I would have been a lot more okay with
it But also you can't put yourself in that position
and knew who was brilliant all game long for
the most part so I'm not that worried about it,
but You just can't you can't First off you don't
need to go to the ground in that position Could
have stayed up. He had position on him. He's
not gonna be able to get by him stay standing
Kick it out of bounds. Didn't need to go to ground.
That would have prevented him from coming studs
up because when he went to ground, his leg shot
up. And you're right. He didn't scissor kick
him. The second leg didn't come through. But
his studs did hit him directly. So I see why
they called it. I don't like the call. All the
texts I got immediately after from people actually
around the world, people texting me from Denver,
Colorado, from Uruguay, from other places, they
were like, that's not a red card. No, and these
are people who play soccer. So, I get it. Like,
I get it. It's frustrating that we're in that
position, and now we're going to lose to having
him against Messi. You know, maybe Messi plays
more in the center, and so he wouldn't really
be on that side much, but definitely a player
we could have used in that final match. But,
you know, I think the crowd's going to be up,
and it'll be a pretty crazy game. So, Dan, let's
go to you, because... Clearly you've had a long
day. You're ready to go to sleep. It is past
my bedtime. I'm old and I've got to go to the
office tomorrow, so I'll be fine. But, yeah,
what's up? So, I mean, red card, but make it
out. What are you thinking now moving forward?
Sounders, make it to the final. You're going
to try and find a way up here. Are they going
to be able to win? Are they going to be able
to take on this messy team? Yeah, they can win.
Are they going to win? Probably. Maybe. I don't
think they're going to be the odds -on favorite
to win. But absolutely, I think they can win.
I think losing Nuhu is the – it is just another
– what's the right way to say it? It's kind of
the story of the season is the next man up. But,
you know, it's not a surprise that we're going
to be going down with one of our better lockdown
defenders. And our primary nine is not going
to be on the field against Messi. And I still
think we have a chance to win. Do you think that
maybe we discovered that we have a forward that
we could put in at the nine when we take out
Osase and Jackson Reagan? and the way he took
that ball into the box. Yeah, he had three defenders
on him too, drilling through it. And we know
Thomas can shoot too, so maybe we'll just flip
the field on him, play backwards. I'm looking
up the odds right now to see if the betting lines
are already out, and it looks like, no, that's
for the next match, because this is a match that
is... non -conference, meaning not in the league.
The betting wasn't already on top of it. So we'll
have to wait until the next episode to discuss
point spreads and all that kind of stuff. But
I was curious to see what it would be. Oh wait,
maybe this site has done it already? Are they
on Vegas time? Or are they on... They are not.
They just postponed our matches. Sadly, we will
not know that right now, what the odds are without
Nuhu. But Cedar, you think we're going to come
through in this? Or will it be messy magic, whether
it's with the ref or not, at the end of the day?
I think we can come through. I mean, obviously,
we're shorthanded. It's not like we have our
first -choice lineup rolling out there. But I
kind of like that. I mean, after the game, they
interviewed D -Ro, and he was like, yeah, I'm
excited for Sunday. I love that. I mean, he's
just a kid, and he's ready. He's ready to go.
I love that attitude. I mean, you know, again,
it's soccer. You know, it's a game. Who cares?
Like, let's go out there. Let's have some fun.
Let's see what we can do against the greatest
of all time. I love that we're probably going
to be the underdogs. I think Seattle sports teams
fare better when we're the underdogs. It just
fits us. Like week one against the Niners, the
Seattle Seahawks. A lot of people are picking
the Niners. I'm like, all right, let's go. Let's
go. I love that. It's crazy talk. I know it's
crazy talk, but it's also week one. Who knows
what's going to happen? But I think against Miami,
of course, everybody's going to pick Messi, right?
I mean, that's going to be the betting favorite.
I mean, they have more star power. They have
more talent on the whole than we do, but we're
going to be at home. We're going to be up for
it. I mean, we've come this far in League's Cup.
It doesn't matter, you know, from D -Ro to, you
know, Cody Baker. I mean, everybody's going to
be up for it, you know. And the funny thing is,
yeah, we've got a lot of just kids from the academy
going to be rolling out there and led by Christian,
right? So I'm down for it. Let's do it. I mean,
that would be great if we could beat the Messy
Machine. Unfortunately for Dan, the Cowboys are
underdogs by seven points in their Thursday night
opener against the Philadelphia Eagles. No, that's
great because I drafted the Eagles defense. Oh,
nice. Good for me. So, Alex, is the Dan base
going to show up for this match in Seattle on
Sunday? Oh, you better believe it. ECS sold out.
Yep. How much is a resale ticket in ECS right
now? I just sent this. I think it was like $528.
I sent you guys a message. $500 .28? $5. Wow.
I'm on cloud nine right now. It's a good thing
I put in PTO for tomorrow. They'll be, they'll
be, you don't need to sit. I mean, it'd be great
to sit in UCS, right? But there's other places
in this. They're going to open the full stadium.
There's no way they can't. Does Lumen sell out?
Does Lumen sell out? That's the question. 68k
in the stadium would be crazy. Oh, man. That
would, I mean, that's the last time we had that,
that I remember of that level is the CONCACAF
Champions League final, right? It's big. The
real question is, can we get 68 ,000 people to
see Pink Phony Club? Because that would make
my night. You've got to go in there with the
megaphone. You've got to sell a kidney or have
China pay the ticket or something. We did get
some comments from the peanut gallery. I mean,
the Scuttlebutt mailbag. As Tim Hamilton asked,
is anyone coming back for injury? from injury.
Um, I don't think Russ snack, I don't think they're
going to rush him back for that game. In theory,
I think this would be the first game where they
said he might be available when he first, when
they first disclosed the injury in full. Uh,
but I don't, I don't think you rush him back
for this when Jesus was incredible. These last
couple of matches and, uh, we're in the, in the
least cup. And then you have Danny, I mean, doing
everything he's been doing. Dan, you don't bring
him back, right? No. You keep going. No, you
let him heal, and then you absolutely bring him
back when he's ready, but no reason to rush him
back for this. Leyva had a great game, didn't
he? I mean, he came on there, what, 60th minute,
and just he was all over the field. The announcers
even clocked and just said that he's making plays
everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Tim also pointed
out that during the CCL final, the Sounders lost
both JP and Nuhu in that match and still won
3 -0. But can we stop shooting ourselves in the
foot? Is this a game, Alex, where we can't have
the Osaze, Jesus, other style misses that we
have to finish these chances? Because I feel
like if you leave the door open for Messi, he
and Jordi Alba and company, although Jordi Alba
did come up a little injured there at the end.
But they seem to take those opportunities and
crush the opponents when they're given a chance.
No, I think that Miami's going to play us very
open. They're going to leave us a lot of space
to attack, and we have to take our chances because
we've seen Suarez, even though he has two bannies,
he's still able to finish inside the box. He's
still a lethal killer. And they're going to make
us pay with those chances. As much as I love
Thomas, I know that he's not able to save them
all. So like those two misses... No goalies saved
some of those messy shots. The penalty today,
no one was saving. The only way that you're saving
that shot is if it hits the post or the crossbar.
So we have to be able to finish our chances.
Because if not, it's going to haunt us. And it's
going to kill us. And it's the hope that kills
us. Because right now, we're very hopeful. We're
going to be the underdogs for sure. And we're
going to play with a chip on our shoulder. but
I know that this team is able to compete with
any team in the league. We've seen that with
Club World Cup. All the people can say that it
was a disaster. We didn't get no points, but
guess what? We were in the group of death, and
we held our own. Yeah. No, I mean, I think the
announcers mentioned it today, and it's something
we've been saying for a while. The confidence
that came out of that tournament shows. I don't
think the Sounders turned their season around
if they hadn't played that tournament, which
is funny to think what it was like going into
that tournament. And then losing all those matches.
And yet, those losses have made it so they've
lost, what, one game since then? Yeah. Out of,
what, 13, 15? Which was, what, Minnesota? Away
from home? Yeah. Which they're above us, so we
were the underdog going into that match, too.
I just think that I expected PSG to mop the floor
with us, and they didn't. And I expected us to
get mopped in the global cup and we didn't and
it just goes goes to show you that Crave Bible
was cooking with his roster. We just have bad
taste But I do believe that this team healthy
Can actually like do something and if we're able
to win these cup Which I want them to leaks win
league scope because that's the trophy we haven't
won Then, you know what? At least we went out.
We got a trophy. We got a Champions League spot.
And then an MLS Cup. We're playing with house
money. Yeah, totally. And I think that's the
point. Now we're into Sounders. Scuttlebutt after
dark. Cedar. Doesn't matter what happens on Sunday.
We're going to Champions Cup. Sounders are back
in CONCACAF. What does that mean to our team,
do you think? I think that's huge. I think not
only competing in the Champions League, but then
winning it, and then getting to be a part of
the Club World Cup, the new Club World Cup. I
mean, I think all of us want to go back to that,
right? I mean, what a cool... It ended up being
a really cool competition, and I think we want
to be a part of the next one. And I think we're
perfectly capable of getting back there. So now
we've punched our ticket, which is good. And
now we have an opportunity to win, like you guys
were saying, a trophy we've never won before.
And, I mean, that would be great. That would
be really, really, really nice against, you know,
against Messi and Suarez and Jordi Alba and Busquets
and, you know, Javier Mascherano and all of his,
you know. Oh, wait. Is he banned from the final
because of his red card? I don't think they banned
him. No, he was banned from his past game, right?
Yeah. But... I mean, that whole, in the quarterfinal,
when he was just, they banned, they gave him
a red card at halftime, and then he was just
sitting right above the bench in this stance.
I mean, that was hilarious. I mean, that's so
great. You can see him on the phone. I mean,
that's really, really funny. No, I mean, it would
be hilarious if we beat Inter -Miami. I mean,
it would be really funny to me. I would love
that. I would love nothing more. And if we lose,
you know, it's like, okay, well, whatever. I
mean, we've got our, you know, we've got a bunch
of our academy kids out against them, you know.
Which is no excuse, but it's just like, it is
what it is. I mean, we've suffered more injuries
than any of the other top teams in MLS so far.
So, you know, like... Like you guys were saying,
how's money? I'm just excited. I'm excited for
Sunday. I think it could be a night to remember,
truly. Yeah, and you're hearing that right, folks.
We'll see if it still comes through after the
editing, but that is the wind because Cedar's
outside braving the weather in order to... come
and talk to you all because that's how important
this is. And that's why we're going to leave
the final comment here to Dan before he is completely
asleep and let him get a little spicy here and
say, what, what do you think the rest of the
MLS fans are going to do right now? Because they
always want messy to lose, but the other team
they tend to hate in the MLS is Seattle. Who
do you think, do you think this is the time where
they're all suddenly Seattle fans? I think this
could be framed as the American story of the
little guy versus the big guy. You have a bunch
of hometown heroes playing in Seattle, going
up against this world superstar that is what,
a billionaire? I mean, he's got to be worth billions,
right? Living in a mansion in Florida, right
next to Mar -a -Lago, just hanging out, doing
his thing. And he's going to come up here to
a blue collar town. Well, okay, it's a tech town
now, but a town with blue collar roots. Yep.
And play guys that went to high school here.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Paul Rothrock went to Lakeside.
Reagan went to university prep. Jordan, I mean,
he's not playing, but went across the water at
Mercer Island. You've got Alex went to Seattle
U. Christian went to UW. It's just this total.
local connection, which is not Miami at all.
Yeah. I, I mean, we could, a guy still in high
school could see the field, right? Not everyone
else still in high school. Did he graduate early?
Yeah. And he scored twice. Yeah. I think he's
just, he's 18 right now. So he could be a senior
year. I don't know. So, yeah. And, and he's has
a chance to see the field against messy. And
I, I, it's a, you know, a chance to win the game.
Yeah. I guess we've got to get predictions from
everyone in the final since we probably will
not record before then since it is Sunday night.
Dan, you're already talking. What's happening?
What's the final score? Who wins? Seattle goes
in the locker room up 2 -0. They end up winning
3 -2 on a last -minute shot by Georgie. I'm glad
they meant Seattle. I wasn't sure there. Alex.
What's your prediction for the Sunday final?
Saunders by a million. That's some confidence.
No. What's your real prediction? I think Saunders
3 -2 or 4 -2. It's going to be close. We're going
to have the lead. They're going to come back.
They might go ahead. We'll come back. And then
the last 10 minutes, it's up in the air. As long
as we don't sub off Pedro early. Today was okay
because we were up by enough goals. I was not
feeling okay until the end of the game. Oh, we
lost Cedar, so we're not going to get his score
result. He says Saunders win by a million, so
it's all fine. Yeah, it works. I'll say mine,
and then if he pops back on, it'll be easy to
get it back in at the end. I'm going to go Saunders
up 2 -0 in the 75th minute. Miami ties it, sends
it to penalties. and Sounders win when Andy Thomas
hits a penalty, and it's going to be like the
ninth or tenth penalty, and Sounders are going
to go through and win on penalties with Andy
Thomas being carried off the field and starting
every game from now on because you can't not
start him after that. Thank you. Please, thank
you. Someone finally agrees. Finally. His hair
is so fine. Not only that, his PK saves are so
fine. Yeah, absolutely. So what we'll do is join
our Discord. That's a place where everything
happens. And you can see it here in the show
notes. And you'll be able to see Cedar's prediction
there and get some good in -game banter. We,
of course, have a Sounders Match Day channel
where everyone comes in and talks and can have
fun in there and then talking throughout the
week. And also, you know, there's some good non
-Sounders talk that goes on there, too. Oh, yes.
He's back. He's back. Yes, he's back. I'm back.
Just in time to give your final prediction. What
is the score going to be in the final match there?
Oh, man. I feel like Miami is going to score
at least two goals. I'm going to say 3 -2. We
come out on top. We hold on. We all have rose
-colored, rose -tinted glasses as we're all picking
wins. You missed 3 -2, 4 -2, and I said Andy
Thomas kicks the game -winning penalty in the
9th or 10th penalty, I think I said, 8th or 9th.
Beautiful. He probably wouldn't shoot that late
because he's good. We'll say 8th. Yeah, so it's
going to be fun. If you can make it out to the
match, make it. Some of us, maybe all of us will
be there if we can convince Cedar to sell a kidney
and come up from the bay. And it'll be good times.
Damn, I need to sell one too. Do I need all my
kidneys? Probably not. No, you only need one.
Yeah, you can sell your gallbladder. There we
go. If you're drinking organic beer, you'll be
fine. Yeah. Can you sell your kids' kidneys?
You only need one ball. Are you asking your wife?
Is that why you picked up your phone? Let's get
out of here. Let's let everyone go to bed. It's
getting late here. And we'll just say, yeah,
join the Discord, join the Patreon. We'll see
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