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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say it's cheating. Hello and welcome to

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Mariner's Scuttlebutt, where we talk about how

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the Mariners have lost 6 -7 in our... Oh, no,

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it's Sounders Scuttlebutt! That is right, we're

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here to talk about your... Seattle Sounders,

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one of the best teams in the MLS. I am here,

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me being Cameron Collins, with my co -host, Nicholas

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Biello. What's up, Nicholas? How are you faring

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over there in quarantine? Well, just a little

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bit under the weather, but I'm... Going to soldier

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through because we want to get you some beautiful

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content leading up to tomorrow's League's Cup

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match. We are recording the night before the

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match to get something out to you. Not COVID,

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though? You okay? You know what? I don't think

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so. I think it's just a little sniffles. No,

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no, I didn't. COVID, I know. eight people that

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just got over COVID independently of each other.

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Oh, yikes. Well, around the country. So I mean,

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to be fair, to be fair, I've already ruled out

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going to the game tomorrow. So yeah. So I don't

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want to get other people sick. Exactly. So looking

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out for all of you, but I will be there in spirit.

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Are you drinking beer today? All right. Ooh,

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that makes me really want to drink some beer,

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but yes, I will be. I have myself a little bottle.

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That sounded great on your side. Yes. Cause it

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was water. Oh, see, when Aaron does it, it doesn't

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sound good at all, but you get that little pop

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in the bottle. I think Aaron just needs to work

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on his technique. It's all in the wrist. Yeah.

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Aaron, get that wrist working more often. I guess

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with a one -bedroom apartment, it makes it difficult.

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You got to find your spots. You got to pick your

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battles. I mean, you do work at a hotel, buddy.

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Pretty cool that we'll have him tell the story

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next time he's on the little scuttle, but he

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had a good week. He had to go see heart play

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after we had talked about on the show when it

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was just me and him. I told him the heart was

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coming to town. He found out that they were staying

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at his hotel and he got to go see him, which

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is, I think, I think he needed it. It's been

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separate from Seattle for too long. All he gets

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to do is talk about Sounders and that's about

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it. Yeah, I agree. He, He was very happy about

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that, but that's his story to tell. So we'll

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have something to listen to when he gets back

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to talk with us. That's right. Anything else?

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I mean, you've been sick for a few days. Anything

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going on before that? I mean, you're working

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like 12 jobs now, right? Yeah, I'm just doing

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a lot of just trying to trying to make some money.

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You know, we've got obviously season ticket renewals

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coming up soon. So definitely not need to stay

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ahead of that. Yep. Yep. We had a meeting with

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Alliance Council on that today. Just keep that

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in mind. Not really anything exciting to make

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public. Just that renewals is as it always has

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been. You've opted in. And if you want to opt

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out, you're going to have to be proactive about

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it. Yeah. Other scuttlebutt. We're coming down

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to the end of the transfer deadline. We got about

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a few days ago. No news in Sounders Front as

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of right now. Is today the last day? Is it the

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19th? Hmm. It might be. Let's see. Transfer window

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MLS. What are you? It ends on the 21st. Okay.

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I didn't think it was today, but two more days,

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you know, report out of sounder at heart about

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a player that we tried to sign that is on loan

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to a Spanish secondary club from Strasbourg.

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The, the reporting was that it was nixed by a

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higher up from the Strasbourg slash Chelsea ownership

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group. I don't. We don't know actually what happened,

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but I do, I can say that that would have been

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a, I mean, this, I can't even pronounce his name,

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but this signing a forward valued at 6 million

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euros, 19 years old, Serbian youth Nash international.

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This would have been a far better signing than

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Noah Ohio. In my opinion, this guy was a higher

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quality forward. Like Milos, Milos Lukovic, Lukovic.

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There we go. If Serbian is anything like Polish,

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Lukovic. Yeah. So it would have been super fun

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signing. It makes me excited that the Sounders

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were in on conversations with them, though, to

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improve. And I think it speaks to the fact that

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they're not complacent. Things just haven't worked

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out. Well, you got to keep this in mind. One.

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you have a very, very narrow window of possible

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players that you can sign because the only spots

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we have available are youth under 22 roster signing.

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Now, the problem is any. under 22 roster signing

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doesn't mean it's not like a dp where you can

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spend as much as you want you can spend as much

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as you want to get him to the team you cannot

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spend as much as you want on their actual contract

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so it has to be someone that is that true i mean

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i know it only hits the cap at 150 correct but

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you but you can spend far more than that no it's

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the it's the transfer Oh, because it goes you're

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saying because it over the length of the contract,

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it goes through ameliorates over the length of

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the contract. Yeah. And so that's that's kind

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of the issue there. And so and so I'm just looking

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that up right now, just to kind of quote properly,

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because I did look this up and it was really.

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I think I think, though, because it only hits

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and obviously Leo chewing up over time, but it

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only hits at 150. And that's why he was such

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a deal. Well, if he wasn't U22, he was – the

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UDP was what he was originally brought in under

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and then they changed the – But at the U22 level,

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he was making far more money and only hitting

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us at 150, which is why it was like, okay. Well,

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I mean as much as he's not producing for us,

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if he had stuck around, I wasn't opposed to it

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considering – I mean especially last year coming

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into it, you had someone – sorry, Danny Muzofsky

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who this year obviously worth $600 ,000. Not

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worth $600 ,000 a year last year. Yeah, so to

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give you context, the compensation as the player's

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salary may not exceed the maximum salary budget

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charge in any given year, including option years.

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Now, a homegrown or super drop player on their

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second contract may earn max salary plus $200

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,000 above the max salary budget year. But what

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it is is that there's not the budget chart. It's

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$612 ,500. They have to make less than $612 ,500.

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Yeah. So they have to make non -DP money. So

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there is that going on. And plus, MLS is going

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to MLS. Even though these are the published 2025

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rules, sometimes we hear about rule changes after

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the fact. So take it with a grain of salt. What

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you were saying basically is that whatever we

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pay in a transfer fee goes on to his contract

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beyond the – so if it's $612 ,000 and you're

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paying – $8 million. Let's just draw a number

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out there. Let's just say $8 million over eight

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years. Let's do $6 million over six years, just

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to keep it easy. That's adding a million per

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year to it, which is above what you can pay on

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that. If you could get them for less or on a

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loan and then transfer it later, the way Miami

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loves to do it and change what status is later,

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you can have up to a $600 ,000 contract that

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only hits you at $150 ,000. thousand if they're

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20 or younger 200 000 this year now if they're

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21 to 23 so that that has changed as leo chu

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was in that position for us i am yeah so i i

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we may have a little bit of that slightly mixed

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up as far as how the actual transfer applies

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but i thought that the transfer itself is not

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part of the cap hit it's the salary that is the

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the challenge in either case so in either case

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in both of these you have to have the money yeah

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so so in both so basically that's the limited

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window that we have so you need a player who's

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young enough that will command a multi -million

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dollar transfer fee but is not established enough

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that their individual salary is above max tam

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essentially we uh yeah yeah i mean they have

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to make below dp money exactly yeah and and and

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so second that changes you know that that creates

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some of the issues and and and frankly leo chu

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once again just to kind of for the record was

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considered a successful u22 signing from league

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perspectives you know of course everyone wants

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the next denny buonga Of course. Or Dejan Jovovich.

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I can't say his name. But yeah. And so I love

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that these are the swings we're taking because

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that tells me that we're taking swings on players

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that will make a difference and not just signing

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someone for the sake of signing someone. That

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player immediately becomes a starter forward

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until Jordan gets back. Yes. If he works his

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way into the team and plays well. I mean, all

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the ifs, ands, or buts, right? Because same thing

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with Ryan Kent. Like, you never know what's going

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to happen. But talent -wise, I mean, I love Osaze.

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He's not there yet. Danny has been killing it

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and is earning his money, but his upside isn't

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as high. Correct. So I think you would see something.

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I mean, but looking at the money -wise for up

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to that, like... A lot of our players, there's

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players on our team, when you look at their contracts,

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I mean, if you had told me Danny Mazovsky was

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making $555 ,000, if I didn't already know that,

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that seems low this year, but it seems way too

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high last year, right? So it's because you signed

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a contract over a number of years. And so coming

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into the season, it was like, how are we going

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to pay him that much? Now, you know, the fact

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that he's the 10th, 11th highest played player

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on our team makes it feel, oh, well, he kind

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of earned that. Well, it's really interesting

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to see, one, just how the roster has evolved

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over the last 10 years. 10 years ago, I was managing

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an affordable housing. Well, a little over 10

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years ago, I was managing an affordable housing

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apartment in downtown Seattle. And as part of

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the application process, you kind of pre -qualify.

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People show me their pay stubs, and I can kind

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of, oh, yes, you qualify, or no, you don't qualify.

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and dylan remick was a sounder at that time he

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qualified for affordable housing because because

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35 000 a year yeah it was like it was somewhere

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in that 35 to 45 000 a year yeah so so we've

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certainly evolved and that's great from a league

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perspective king county for a family of four

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the ami is 88 000 so around 70 000 for family

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four so that's going to be So everyone on our

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team now is no longer low -income housing, but

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not by a lot. I don't have the numbers in front

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of me. Well, that's a family of four versus a

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family of one. A family of one, the math works

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out to 60 -ish. And the lowest paid player on

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our team is 80 now. But they're not much off,

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right? It brings an interesting question, though,

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which, I mean, I don't know about you. There's

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not a ton I want to talk about from the Minnesota

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game. I think you and I are going to have a debate

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over. the low block and then be able to move

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on. But I'm interested to see what you think

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of this. These, I'm going to tell you a player,

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I'm going to tell you multiple players that are,

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this is the last year of their contract and how

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much they're making. And my takeaway is there's

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going to be a lot of money that frees up next

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year to sign players in the, in the cap. So,

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so it could be interesting, but also to share

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your screen. Oh, good thinking. I'd love to see

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with you. Let me pull this out here and share

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screen so that those of us that are on video,

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which is only you and I, since this is not a

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Patreon episode, we can... And of course, these

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numbers aren't 100 % accurate, but they are the

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accurate numbers that we have. You see that?

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Yep. Okay. So, I mean, obviously, our two DPs

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are the highest paid, although... Our third DP

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is paid less than a couple of TAM players we

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have, which is interesting that we use a lot

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of TAM money to pay down Jesus and Christian,

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I guess. I think you and I might have a very

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robust, interesting debate on the fact that Jordan

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Morris makes $2 .2 million a year, making him

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the second highest paid player on the team. But

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let's move past that for now. Ryan Kent, $936

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,000. I mean, I can't see him being brought back

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for a number even close to that. Well, it depends

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on what his injury status was. Right, but still.

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Yeah, it's not looking great for Ryan Kent. Plus,

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it's very tough to have both Paul Areola and

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Ryan Kent on the roster. It may end up, because

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both of them are having what's effectively season

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-ending injuries, you may end up having to make

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a decision of which one is more likely to come

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back. to full fitness. Yeah. And let's circle

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back to that because there's another player who

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is coming out of contract that's going to be

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needing to pay a lot more money. So then we move

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down, look another here, Yamar, 800 ,000 a year.

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I was talking to Alex Diaz about this and I think

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perhaps, I mean, obviously we want him back,

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but I wonder if he might go the way of Leardom,

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that if he wants to make the same money, they

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might move on because he's not. I mean, he's

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still excellent when he's on the field, but he

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might not be able to stay on the field as much.

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So he might be a cap casualty if they're making

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other big moves. Yeah. Do we happen to know with

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this? Does this take into account whether we

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have an option year or not? This does not have

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it. I can pull up another thing where I can tell

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you if that exists independently. So I'm pulling

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that up right now. Okay. So Ryan Kent, we do

00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.360
have a club option. Yeah. Yamar. we have a club

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option. So these are all players that we have

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a club option on so far. So big decisions have

00:15:52.539 --> 00:15:54.879
to be made on Yamar there. It's going to be interesting.

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Obviously, I think he's worth bringing back,

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but that money, we'll see. Steph Fry, another

00:16:03.419 --> 00:16:06.279
one, $600 ,000 out of contract. You're paying

00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:10.419
a lot less for Andrew Thomas. What is the drop

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-off? You're paying $200 ,000. What is the drop

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-off in terms of quality versus the amount you

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could use to spend on another player? You don't

00:16:18.659 --> 00:16:25.639
lowball for that position. The way it's already

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being discussed from our coaching staff, I don't

00:16:27.659 --> 00:16:29.379
know that Stephen Fry is back next year anyways.

00:16:30.340 --> 00:16:36.360
Stephen Fry is back if he's still playing. Not

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if he wants more money. I don't think they bring

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him back at a higher number. Absolutely not.

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Well, his numbers are going lower and lower each

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year. And he had to fight to get this number.

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They didn't plan on bringing him back pretty

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much as how it seemed like it was going. But

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regardless, I move on personally, but that's

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just me. I have no problem with him being brought

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back. He's not the one that we have to have obvious

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conversations about. I think you've got to move

00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.299
on from his $600 ,000 contract. Yeah, I don't

00:17:05.299 --> 00:17:07.359
think you exercise the option, but maybe you

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re -sign him for something smaller. Right. And

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he, let me pull back up over here. Club option.

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So the only people that don't have club options

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that we're going to go through here are Rothrock,

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RBW, John Bell, and Steph. So everyone else has

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a club option. But Rothrock, RBW, given their

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ages, we may have some sort of, we may not have

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a, that may be, that may fall under the, we have

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the right of, for as long as we're saying they're

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a legitimate contract. They can't leave, but.

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But we're going to have to pay them. At least

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they can't leave within MLS. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Danny Masovsky, $555 ,000 is a steal right now

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based on how he's doing. Do you bring him – I

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mean, do you exercise that club option? And what

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is – we don't know what that number is either.

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But that brings up another question. Nuhu, I

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don't think he does – is he on this list? He's

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– Oh, you're looking for the option list. He

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does have a club option. So interesting to see

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what that would be at. The other names. So that's

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all the big names money -wise. But here's what

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I really wanted to talk to you about because

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I think it changes some of those decisions up

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above. The players that need to be re -signed

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are Ree Baker Whiting, or if you sign him, bring

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him back. He makes the most at 150. John Bell,

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135. Obed already taken care of. Jacob Castro.

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Well, Obed not taking care of Obed's in negotiation,

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but nothing's official at this point. Something

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I saw on other official MLS sources has his contract

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going through 2027 or eight now. So they must,

00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:53.220
they must still be working on it, but I guess

00:18:53.220 --> 00:18:56.059
they assumed it's done. I don't know. Kim Kihi,

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Osaze, Paul Rothrock, KKR, Leo, Bernie, and Travian

00:19:01.619 --> 00:19:06.309
Souza. Of all those names. be selling Paul Rothrock,

00:19:06.410 --> 00:19:09.549
who's going to need a huge pay raise, who stands

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out to you as like, this is people we need to

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sign, which means we might need to use Ryan Kent's

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money. You know, you don't need all 900 ,000,

00:19:16.849 --> 00:19:18.930
but you're going to have to throw, I don't know,

00:19:18.990 --> 00:19:21.990
500 ,000, 400 ,000 of that at Paul Rothrock,

00:19:22.109 --> 00:19:28.430
if you're being fair, more. But. I mean, to be

00:19:28.430 --> 00:19:33.650
perfectly honest, yeah. This may be a year where.

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We let some players go. That might be a little

00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:44.740
surprising. We'll find out. But yeah, I think

00:19:44.740 --> 00:19:47.180
I would expect to see Paul Rothrock get a raise

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somewhere in the Danny Mussofsky set of numbers.

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Between $500 ,000 and $600 ,000. Jackson's at

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$600 ,000. Yeah, I mean, Jackson's a good analog

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there. And all the names above that are like

00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.500
the stars of the team, which he's close to, but

00:20:06.500 --> 00:20:09.099
maybe because he's not getting the minutes, isn't.

00:20:10.339 --> 00:20:15.559
Yeah. So that's one that would jump out to me.

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KKR's got to have an option here. He's just so

00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:25.759
new to the team, so I'm not worried about that.

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But obviously you bring him back. I think you

00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:31.819
keep Reed Baker whiting just because he's got

00:20:31.819 --> 00:20:34.640
potential sell -on. He's still got a lot of potential.

00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:37.799
Yeah, I think his contract will go up, though,

00:20:37.819 --> 00:20:40.440
from 150. I'd see him more in line with the Danny

00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:42.440
Leyva type. He's getting more minutes than Danny

00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:45.059
Leyva. And a couple of these people may end up

00:20:45.059 --> 00:20:53.119
being used on the U -22s as a cap savings there.

00:20:56.949 --> 00:20:59.049
With that in mind, I think this is probably the

00:20:59.049 --> 00:21:01.690
last. Oh, no, he's still under contract. I was

00:21:01.690 --> 00:21:04.349
going to say Cody Baker. No, he's got two more

00:21:04.349 --> 00:21:07.950
years. I worry about him because he's not getting

00:21:07.950 --> 00:21:11.569
a lot of time and people are jumping ahead of

00:21:11.569 --> 00:21:14.670
him. I'm curious what we do with John Bell. He's

00:21:14.670 --> 00:21:18.490
kind of turning into the backline equivalent

00:21:18.490 --> 00:21:27.210
of Azira. Yeah. Michael Azera, who I love. John

00:21:27.210 --> 00:21:30.390
Bell is, I mean, to put it in baseball terms,

00:21:30.490 --> 00:21:34.329
he's Willie Bloomquist. You put, oh, he's before

00:21:34.329 --> 00:21:38.750
your time, isn't he? Damn. Utility infielder.

00:21:39.210 --> 00:21:41.390
You can put him at multiple different positions

00:21:41.390 --> 00:21:43.130
in the defense. He's going to step up. He's going

00:21:43.130 --> 00:21:46.890
to be purposeful. Yeah, he's going to be fine.

00:21:47.130 --> 00:21:49.349
He'll be serviceable across the board. He's not,

00:21:49.390 --> 00:21:51.809
I mean, he had that red card, but arguably, I

00:21:51.809 --> 00:21:53.430
don't even think that was a red card. No, that

00:21:53.430 --> 00:21:56.599
was not. But outside of that, his mistakes are

00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.140
minimal. You know, he had one here, one there.

00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:00.420
But when you're not getting minutes, those are

00:22:00.420 --> 00:22:04.039
bound to happen. Like, I think he's a steal at

00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:06.819
135. Yeah. Again, I think Michael Azera is the

00:22:06.819 --> 00:22:09.119
perfect analog to that because Azera is someone

00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:13.619
that was on a league minimum contract and was

00:22:13.619 --> 00:22:16.380
able to step up and get those minutes and take

00:22:16.380 --> 00:22:20.119
those minutes. Yeah. So who's the other, there

00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:22.559
was another player we had that was much like

00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.480
that. They went on to be one of the union reps

00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:30.839
for the league. Played for New Mexico, right?

00:22:31.019 --> 00:22:34.920
Yeah. It's in my head, but. And I just can't

00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:36.779
get there, but yeah. We'll think of it. But yeah,

00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.420
I mean, so there's some interesting decisions

00:22:38.420 --> 00:22:41.819
to make, but I could see some, if even though

00:22:41.819 --> 00:22:43.859
this U22 signing didn't come through for the

00:22:43.859 --> 00:22:46.380
Serbian now, if he's someone we're seriously

00:22:46.380 --> 00:22:50.279
interested in and he's top of. uh mind i could

00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:52.500
see them having plenty of money to go after him

00:22:52.500 --> 00:22:54.400
next year with the amount of money that will

00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.160
i mean you're gonna have to pay some out but

00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:58.059
the amount of money that's gonna free up from

00:22:58.059 --> 00:23:01.779
a ryan kent from a xiao paulo i mean that's right

00:23:01.779 --> 00:23:04.980
there alone is 1 .5 million and then potentially

00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:07.460
you could use some of that money to up other

00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:10.240
contracts rework contracts there's a lot you

00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:14.279
could do here to to uh change things so i'm excited

00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:19.109
to um See what happens. But I just, here's for

00:23:19.109 --> 00:23:21.869
me, I was mainly excited that they, they were

00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:24.849
make trying to make a big move. Like they didn't,

00:23:24.849 --> 00:23:26.210
they weren't just giving up cause they couldn't

00:23:26.210 --> 00:23:30.950
get no Ohio. Yeah. Yeah. And, and so I'm just,

00:23:30.990 --> 00:23:36.829
I'm just trying to not get too involved in reading

00:23:36.829 --> 00:23:41.339
some of the. some of the conjecture if it's like

00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:44.259
i i ignore most of that stuff i mean i i will

00:23:44.259 --> 00:23:46.839
be frustrated if we don't bring in anybody because

00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.539
it is true that five of the top six teams in

00:23:49.539 --> 00:23:52.500
the west have brought in starters true but we

00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:54.900
also are coming from a deeper we're coming from

00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:57.980
a better place of advantage where we are so deep

00:23:57.980 --> 00:24:01.819
i think we need a forward though and here's i

00:24:01.819 --> 00:24:04.059
don't I don't need one of these. I was saying

00:24:04.059 --> 00:24:06.299
this to people off mic. I think, I don't know

00:24:06.299 --> 00:24:07.700
if I talked about, I might've talked about it

00:24:07.700 --> 00:24:11.539
on the last ultras episode, but, uh, I just want

00:24:11.539 --> 00:24:16.420
an M MLS level backup forward to come in and

00:24:16.420 --> 00:24:18.720
just be another body in that position right now

00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.319
that can do what Messiah is doing. Yeah. Yeah.

00:24:22.380 --> 00:24:24.740
Praise the Messiah. Cause I don't think, I don't

00:24:24.740 --> 00:24:29.440
think, so I don't think that Osaze is MLS backup

00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:33.140
level at this. time he will be but yeah yeah

00:24:33.140 --> 00:24:36.660
yeah he he is firmly a third string you know

00:24:36.660 --> 00:24:38.599
he's taking up the minutes that were previously

00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:45.279
given to players like um darwin jones and vick

00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.359
mansouray and those weren't a lot of men he's

00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:51.920
only getting more because the huskies uh we 90

00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:57.220
uh darwin jones oh no andy craven no 99 yeah

00:24:57.220 --> 00:25:00.670
i i was thinking we just let go of this year

00:25:00.670 --> 00:25:06.109
um he was oh yeah i really liked him more time

00:25:06.109 --> 00:25:12.109
dylan thomas not thomas dylan remez yeah dylan

00:25:12.109 --> 00:25:15.390
yes something like that tevez there we go tevez

00:25:15.390 --> 00:25:17.170
thank you it was a tea it was a team yeah i'm

00:25:17.170 --> 00:25:19.289
like dylan thomas is a poet we're not going there

00:25:19.289 --> 00:25:22.750
oh that's where my head is at apparently um but

00:25:22.750 --> 00:25:26.619
no uh Tevez, and I like Tevez, but he wasn't

00:25:26.619 --> 00:25:29.960
producing goals. But that's the level, you know,

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.119
Osase is better, is producing better, is looking

00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:39.220
better as your third string forward than we've

00:25:39.220 --> 00:25:41.319
had in that spot. And I mean, that just speaks

00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.009
to the kind of depth we're getting. production

00:25:44.009 --> 00:25:46.710
out of our six choice center back that other

00:25:46.710 --> 00:25:49.130
teams would kill for you know when you've got

00:25:49.130 --> 00:25:51.549
alex rolled on as your sixth choice center back

00:25:51.549 --> 00:25:54.869
and just leading to a couple shutouts and just

00:25:54.869 --> 00:25:57.490
so so we're building really good stuff there

00:25:57.490 --> 00:25:59.890
but yes i think forward is somewhere where we

00:25:59.890 --> 00:26:06.769
are most um susceptible to problems if things

00:26:06.769 --> 00:26:11.000
if things don't go our way and There's a lot

00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.359
of people asking, how do we buy down Jordan?

00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.059
I mean, clearly he has not lived up to the DP

00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:21.599
contract because of injury. Not necessarily his

00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:25.640
fault. The amount of money he makes to buy him

00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.359
down from... You could spend that damn money

00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.079
on much better things than buying him down. You

00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:33.339
can't buy him down. You can only buy him out.

00:26:33.980 --> 00:26:37.460
Yeah. And they're not going to do that. Maybe

00:26:37.460 --> 00:26:41.079
they should. I think you got to give them a year.

00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.119
You got to give them a year to see how it goes.

00:26:44.339 --> 00:26:47.279
So I think we're committed to, my suspicion is

00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.339
we're committed to Jordan for at least next year.

00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:57.440
But if we have two years of non -DP production,

00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:00.279
whether through injury or no fault of their own,

00:27:00.380 --> 00:27:02.119
that's going to be the writing on the wall there.

00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.640
i was looking up the numbers because i was curious

00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.160
how many games aussie played when we decided

00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.420
he was too injured to continue to play for us

00:27:09.420 --> 00:27:13.299
versus jordan and last year jordan even though

00:27:13.299 --> 00:27:15.299
he was injured for a little bit of it he played

00:27:15.299 --> 00:27:17.019
enough games that he doesn't fall into aussie

00:27:17.019 --> 00:27:18.880
categories but this year and the year before

00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.920
last apparently looking at the total played there's

00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.039
also more more things now so i was like is he

00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:26.220
in aussie numbers he's not he's playing more

00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:28.380
than aussie did even with this year in there

00:27:28.380 --> 00:27:32.319
so uh In my head, I thought, well, this feels

00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.119
very similar to Ozzy when you move on, but he's

00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.079
not there yet. He's not there in terms of numbers.

00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.019
But just keep in mind, last year he was very

00:27:39.019 --> 00:27:42.240
healthy. He played in the most games of any sounder.

00:27:42.259 --> 00:27:45.359
He played in 37 games. Right, right. He played

00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.539
a lot. But that is the year he was good, and

00:27:48.539 --> 00:27:50.970
the year before was where he wasn't. He wasn't

00:27:50.970 --> 00:27:53.529
getting the same number of matches, but this

00:27:53.529 --> 00:27:56.230
year he's at 10 games. So that's, and this is

00:27:56.230 --> 00:27:58.289
league play, not all the other competitions,

00:27:58.309 --> 00:28:00.349
but you get the point. And he got one club world

00:28:00.349 --> 00:28:03.710
cup for three minutes, but and you know, the

00:28:03.710 --> 00:28:05.289
other time he's been in the other ones too. So

00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:08.730
it's, it's, it's an interesting idea. I think,

00:28:08.789 --> 00:28:15.289
I think people who are still frustrated and they

00:28:15.289 --> 00:28:18.549
take it out on Jordan. And this is, I'm talking

00:28:18.549 --> 00:28:20.609
not about us, although you probably put me in

00:28:20.609 --> 00:28:23.829
the same category as them, because I think people

00:28:23.829 --> 00:28:27.690
are frustrated that we haven't signed a DP in

00:28:27.690 --> 00:28:30.509
the summer window for, what was the last one

00:28:30.509 --> 00:28:32.269
I saw that was a meaningful one? It's been a

00:28:32.269 --> 00:28:37.869
while. Priority is. No, there was a few signings

00:28:37.869 --> 00:28:40.359
after that weren't that level. But still, Leo

00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:43.099
Chu. Well, you said DP. I thought you said DP.

00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:46.079
Oh, I did. I meant just like a big signing. A

00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:50.480
big signing. So I get the frustration. For me,

00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:52.740
I think if they don't bring in anything, they

00:28:52.740 --> 00:28:55.779
failed. I don't know. Is the trade deadline the

00:28:55.779 --> 00:28:57.559
same as the transfer deadline? That I don't know.

00:28:57.700 --> 00:28:59.359
I don't know when the roster freezes because

00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.440
they could still bring someone in after it if

00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.660
they don't have a club. I just don't know why

00:29:05.660 --> 00:29:07.380
you don't have a – if you have an open spot.

00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.640
And I was meant to bring up their roster. I'm

00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.599
pretty sure they have an open roster spot regardless.

00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:18.240
The roster freezes September 12th. The transfer

00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.420
deadline is August 21st. So they could still

00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:29.339
pick someone up in theory out of contract. Yes.

00:29:29.420 --> 00:29:34.240
So Stuart Hawkins is not currently on the roster

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:39.220
apparently. Oh, this is preseason. So this is

00:29:39.220 --> 00:29:42.000
an account for Leo Chu being gone. And Stuart

00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.000
Hawkins probably is. And we brought in other

00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.259
players. But Dylan Tevez is gone on the supplemental

00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:51.180
roster. So we could bring in another player.

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.700
It's just, I think, I just can't. We just need

00:29:55.700 --> 00:29:57.400
bodies at this point with the number of games

00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.859
that we have going into the playoffs and everything.

00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.700
And I think this may be a good point to break

00:30:03.700 --> 00:30:07.230
so we can talk about the Minnesota game. I don't

00:30:07.230 --> 00:30:08.789
understand why every team just doesn't play the

00:30:08.789 --> 00:30:11.750
low block against us, and then we would never

00:30:11.750 --> 00:30:15.990
score again. I'm going to disagree, as you alluded

00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:20.609
to. We had some good opportunities. Unfortunately,

00:30:20.829 --> 00:30:23.069
Osase just couldn't finish a couple of those

00:30:23.069 --> 00:30:24.630
opportunities. They weren't good crosses. They

00:30:24.630 --> 00:30:26.329
were over his head, and he was able to get up

00:30:26.329 --> 00:30:29.049
to him. I don't blame him at all. Maybe you could

00:30:29.049 --> 00:30:31.470
argue he could jump earlier, but they were not.

00:30:31.609 --> 00:30:34.950
Those were high for him, and he's freaking tall.

00:30:36.950 --> 00:30:40.309
But also, that's my point. We need someone better

00:30:40.309 --> 00:30:43.509
than him in those positions. I love him. I'm

00:30:43.509 --> 00:30:45.430
glad he's on the roster. He's a great addition.

00:30:46.309 --> 00:30:48.730
Moose isn't getting those either. We need someone

00:30:48.730 --> 00:30:51.329
who can play that. We need someone who can come

00:30:51.329 --> 00:30:53.910
in and start for us right now in positions where

00:30:53.910 --> 00:31:01.069
you're not starting Moose. The only way we can

00:31:01.069 --> 00:31:05.359
do that is through the under -22. That's what

00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:07.920
I'm saying. I don't think that's based on some

00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.359
of the other stuff we've done. And because we

00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.759
opened up a roster, we've opened, we opened up

00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:18.359
a roster spot there with injuries. They still,

00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.420
we, so they still count against us in terms of

00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:25.960
cap, but I'm pretty sure because of the way it

00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.019
worked out, looking at this roster that was preseason,

00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.240
right? So it doesn't account for we'd have to

00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.640
see, but. We could bring in a supplemental roster

00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.440
level player for sure, which doesn't have to

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.200
be a U22. You had Reed Baker whiting on that

00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.500
roster. Jackson Reagan was on it prior. Paul

00:31:42.500 --> 00:31:45.119
Rothrock was on it prior to this year. Paul Rothrock

00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.319
was awesome enough last year. So you could bring

00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:52.839
in someone who's making less money, right? I

00:31:52.839 --> 00:32:01.160
am not 100 % sure, but the supplemental roster.

00:32:02.380 --> 00:32:07.240
Yeah, the supplemental roster has to be filled

00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.099
with players earning the reserve minimum salary,

00:32:10.339 --> 00:32:13.859
so $80 ,622. Definitely players on there making

00:32:13.859 --> 00:32:20.079
more than that. Which may include homegrown players.

00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:22.460
Homegrown players earning more than the reserve

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:25.839
minimum salary, subject to the homegrown player

00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:31.519
subsidy. Which is why Obed's there. So we could

00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.779
not bring in someone. If we're bringing in someone,

00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:39.380
they have to be maxed at $80 ,622 in those spots.

00:32:39.660 --> 00:32:45.839
Johnny Russell, man. Johnny Russell. If you have

00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.880
an open spot, why not do a flyer on someone?

00:32:48.059 --> 00:32:52.799
No, because those reserve minimum salary players

00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.079
must be 24 years or younger during the year.

00:32:56.539 --> 00:33:00.579
Now, senior minimum salary players, that's slots

00:33:00.579 --> 00:33:10.079
21 through 24. That is $104 ,000. And yeah, so

00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.539
they must be paid a base salary that's at least

00:33:12.539 --> 00:33:15.059
a senior minimum salary. And that's 21 through

00:33:15.059 --> 00:33:17.140
24. I don't think we have any of those spots

00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:22.630
available. Yeah, I mean... We could, we would

00:33:22.630 --> 00:33:25.750
have to look specifically at the roster and figuring

00:33:25.750 --> 00:33:30.150
out because. We didn't have those spots available

00:33:30.150 --> 00:33:33.450
earlier in the year. How, I mean, yeah, we also

00:33:33.450 --> 00:33:36.390
have had major injuries since then. But how else,

00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:39.329
I mean, but I mean, you know, I don't trust.

00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.160
the reporting from sounder at heart it is some

00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.599
of the most mediocre reporting out there unless

00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.420
they're getting direct leaks from the sounders

00:33:46.420 --> 00:33:49.059
but some reason they get however they said we're

00:33:49.059 --> 00:33:50.660
gonna go get they believe we're gonna go get

00:33:50.660 --> 00:33:54.119
an mls level player how could i mean unless we're

00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.559
trading for them i mean that's certainly one

00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.559
one way we could do it uh could also be someone

00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.019
who is not in the cap the only other way i think

00:34:04.019 --> 00:34:09.030
we could possibly do it is if One of the players

00:34:09.030 --> 00:34:13.630
that are in slots 21 through 24 would also qualify

00:34:13.630 --> 00:34:18.010
for U22 spot because we had three of those spots

00:34:18.010 --> 00:34:21.050
available. Let's see, 21, 24. They would not.

00:34:21.409 --> 00:34:27.570
I'm looking at the current one right now. Yeah.

00:34:28.289 --> 00:34:33.789
So we would have to send. I mean, yeah, I don't

00:34:33.789 --> 00:34:37.289
know how it works then. This is stupid. mls math

00:34:37.289 --> 00:34:39.710
but yeah i mean unfortunately that's one of the

00:34:39.710 --> 00:34:42.050
that's one of the areas that mls has to do better

00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:46.170
is we can talk about other sports and look at

00:34:46.170 --> 00:34:50.190
a cap and and and play capology with mls there's

00:34:50.190 --> 00:34:54.730
so many different constructions that and they

00:34:54.730 --> 00:34:58.030
don't publish the salaries or the contract lengths

00:34:58.030 --> 00:35:01.230
so so much of this is just speculation and then

00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:04.989
it unfortunately leads to two types of people,

00:35:05.070 --> 00:35:06.949
people who are trying to get the good understanding

00:35:06.949 --> 00:35:09.289
of it and get an accurate picture and people

00:35:09.289 --> 00:35:11.429
who are just talking out of their ass and going,

00:35:11.530 --> 00:35:13.389
well, I can do it in FIFA. Why can't I do it

00:35:13.389 --> 00:35:16.130
here? Actually. So I didn't count numbers. It

00:35:16.130 --> 00:35:18.949
looks like we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,

00:35:18.989 --> 00:35:22.909
10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. We have 18 senior

00:35:22.909 --> 00:35:30.170
roster, senior roster players for 20 spots. So

00:35:30.170 --> 00:35:35.789
as long as. Osaze counts as a supplemental roster

00:35:35.789 --> 00:35:38.429
player, which based on the money, I'm pretty

00:35:38.429 --> 00:35:45.429
sure he does. And as long as you 22 Brunel counts,

00:35:45.630 --> 00:35:48.389
I mean, he'd be a homegrown player. So I believe

00:35:48.389 --> 00:35:52.030
we might have to now, do we, we have, do we still

00:35:52.030 --> 00:35:54.429
have our international slot that maybe we'd have

00:35:54.429 --> 00:35:56.449
to get an American player? Do what do we like?

00:35:56.530 --> 00:35:58.070
There's, there's other considerations, right?

00:35:58.130 --> 00:36:00.269
How much cap space do we actually have? Well,

00:36:00.349 --> 00:36:02.289
that's the other side of the, it looks like we

00:36:02.289 --> 00:36:06.699
do have two. Open senior roster spots. So for

00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:11.059
those 18 spots, do we have a salary budget charge

00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:14.980
of under 5 .9 million? So that's the question.

00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:19.099
And so again, we just don't have those transparencies.

00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.599
So what I can say, so with that, I have to go

00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.699
off of emotion. And my emotion is that we have

00:36:27.699 --> 00:36:30.360
built a very, very deep roster. What I think

00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.800
is the deepest roster I've ever seen in MLS.

00:36:34.230 --> 00:36:37.369
In its current construction, like its current

00:36:37.369 --> 00:36:41.030
existence, I'd say yes. Even in previous years,

00:36:41.090 --> 00:36:44.909
you've never had bits. Oh, not for the Sounders.

00:36:44.929 --> 00:36:46.570
I think there's been other deep teams, though.

00:36:46.849 --> 00:36:50.309
There have been deep teams. Deep youth teams,

00:36:50.530 --> 00:36:53.670
youth player teams for RSL. I mean, we've had

00:36:53.670 --> 00:36:57.510
a lot of that. But this is, I mean, the amount

00:36:57.510 --> 00:36:58.949
of injuries we've had, there's no reason the

00:36:58.949 --> 00:37:00.409
Sounders shouldn't be near the bottom of the

00:37:00.409 --> 00:37:08.070
league. Correct. Correct. If you assign every

00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:11.090
player a numerical position, oh, this is your

00:37:11.090 --> 00:37:14.150
first center, your first center back, your first

00:37:14.150 --> 00:37:16.929
forward, and you give the total number of games

00:37:16.929 --> 00:37:20.090
played by all those positions to every team,

00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:23.050
there's no way in hell anyone else is even near

00:37:23.050 --> 00:37:27.829
our roster, our record. And so with that in mind.

00:37:28.750 --> 00:37:31.010
that's the trade -off you have you have different

00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:33.489
ways of doing things you've got the la galaxy

00:37:33.489 --> 00:37:36.250
way which is to go all into the last penny and

00:37:36.250 --> 00:37:39.420
then be screwed uh when when the season's over

00:37:39.420 --> 00:37:41.820
for the next year i mean that's that's what happens

00:37:41.820 --> 00:37:44.059
to a lot of teams right you go in and then you

00:37:44.059 --> 00:37:45.380
win your championship and then you gotta have

00:37:45.380 --> 00:37:47.119
a fire cell baseball does it too even though

00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.900
they don't the marlins have done it multiple

00:37:48.900 --> 00:37:54.360
times yeah i mean uh yeah right you can go the

00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.980
you know the sounders way which is we're gonna

00:37:56.980 --> 00:37:59.960
we're gonna spend smartly where consistently

00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:05.239
they've had they've gone with numbers over individuals

00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:09.090
like in their In their history, they've often

00:38:09.090 --> 00:38:12.909
been one of the league leaders in total number

00:38:12.909 --> 00:38:16.070
of TAM players. So they've gone for depth in

00:38:16.070 --> 00:38:18.369
that way. But this is on a new level that I've

00:38:18.369 --> 00:38:22.630
never seen before with this kind of depth. You

00:38:22.630 --> 00:38:27.710
can go with the few years ago FC Dallas way or

00:38:27.710 --> 00:38:29.789
the Philadelphia Union way, which is just fill

00:38:29.789 --> 00:38:32.130
it up with nothing but homegrown players and

00:38:32.130 --> 00:38:36.840
just try and make your money that way. You can

00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.400
go the Atlantic galaxy or the LAFC way, which

00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.719
is take huge swings at players. And then when

00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.219
it doesn't work out, you spent so much on them.

00:38:47.260 --> 00:38:49.960
You could still sell them for, for pennies on

00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.039
the dollars, but still bring in millions of dollars

00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.800
back, you know, and take those, take those swings.

00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:58.539
I don't think that this club has that appetite

00:38:58.539 --> 00:39:03.199
to, to, to do that, but, but I'm. okay with that

00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:05.320
like look at Atlanta this year they brought in

00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:09.179
the the 40 million dollars worth of on two players

00:39:09.179 --> 00:39:13.179
and they are not getting the results like yeah

00:39:13.179 --> 00:39:19.659
so spending money doesn't always lead to lead

00:39:19.659 --> 00:39:21.719
to results you gotta you gotta be smart about

00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:23.079
it now one of the things that the Sounders have

00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.440
the biggest advantage and go ahead oh I said

00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.000
the difference when you and I is I agree. You're

00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.539
saying you and I agree 1000 % on all of this

00:39:30.539 --> 00:39:33.480
stuff. You just think that spending a little

00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:35.900
more money than I, than they're already spending

00:39:35.900 --> 00:39:37.559
is too much. And I'm like, is it not my fucking

00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.579
money? Go spend it. Well, I just try to be realistic.

00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.099
Dollar player. Why, why not? Well, And I get

00:39:45.099 --> 00:39:48.519
that. But the thing is, I don't like when people

00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.960
are like, oh, well, look at how the Sounders

00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.000
aren't spending any money on transfers over the

00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.539
last four seasons. Well, the Sounders also have

00:39:55.539 --> 00:39:59.920
the highest rate of base players returning. And

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:03.400
look at our core players. We've got Christian

00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:08.119
Moldon just hit 300 games. Nuhu is at 200 games.

00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:11.590
We've got players that have just... been part

00:40:11.590 --> 00:40:16.090
of our core for so long that we're not needing

00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:19.150
to bring in and get rid of and transfer in and

00:40:19.150 --> 00:40:22.510
transfer out. And Alex has turned into a player

00:40:22.510 --> 00:40:24.170
that I think will be here long -term now too.

00:40:24.309 --> 00:40:26.610
I mean, that's, that's a guy that becomes a leader,

00:40:26.710 --> 00:40:28.590
has become a leader. He's been a, he's been a,

00:40:28.650 --> 00:40:30.650
he's worn our captain's armband. Yeah. That's

00:40:30.650 --> 00:40:33.070
what I'm trying to say. Now that's the words

00:40:33.070 --> 00:40:35.050
I'm trying to say. I will say, and this is according

00:40:35.050 --> 00:40:40.469
to Ben Wright of nashville sc this is as of the

00:40:40.469 --> 00:40:43.010
start of the season okay seven so after we'd

00:40:43.010 --> 00:40:45.269
already made all our trades so this number isn't

00:40:45.269 --> 00:40:49.150
completely accurate because there's uh some of

00:40:49.150 --> 00:40:52.710
it may have gone to some other players but we

00:40:52.710 --> 00:40:56.809
would have had 1 .15 million gam available uh

00:40:56.809 --> 00:41:03.579
that does not include the world cup money That

00:41:03.579 --> 00:41:05.619
if we did get that game and we didn't already

00:41:05.619 --> 00:41:07.380
trade it away, which we don't know the answer

00:41:07.380 --> 00:41:09.920
to. No, I thought we did. I thought we did know

00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.079
the answer to that. We never had proof that that

00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:13.639
actually happened. Oh, no, no, no. I thought

00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:18.039
someone had said to us that that was part of

00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.840
the Jesus Ferreira, Paul Areola trades. That

00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.619
was the speculation from you and I, but we have

00:41:23.619 --> 00:41:26.639
not found any proof to back up why that's in

00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:28.880
our heads. But that would still leave us with

00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.019
1 .15 million then, depending on what else happened.

00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.699
And the way we got there is we got $250 ,000

00:41:34.699 --> 00:41:38.380
from sending San Diego international slots, which

00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:40.860
one of those came from the Arriaga trade. We

00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:44.440
gave the Red Bulls an international slot for

00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:49.500
2025. And 2026. So we got 350 ,000 out of that.

00:41:49.659 --> 00:41:51.480
We got a hundred thousand from Atlanta for an

00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.440
international roster spot. She just keeps sending

00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.199
these away like crazy. And we got, we keep green

00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.260
carding people. Yeah. We traded two international

00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:01.820
roster slots in January, 2024 to LAFC. And so

00:42:01.820 --> 00:42:05.639
we got 350 gam from that. Plus you can, if you

00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:07.820
want the sounders, like you said, are reticent

00:42:07.820 --> 00:42:11.099
to borrow from the future to pay for the past.

00:42:11.139 --> 00:42:13.219
I mean, I guess it's the present, but still you're

00:42:13.219 --> 00:42:16.590
paying on past performance. They can borrow up

00:42:16.590 --> 00:42:20.409
to $1 .25 million of GAM from 2026 and 2027 budgets

00:42:20.409 --> 00:42:23.110
if they wanted to, which makes me think they

00:42:23.110 --> 00:42:24.769
probably have done that in the past, which is

00:42:24.769 --> 00:42:28.789
why we are in some roster trouble in the last

00:42:28.789 --> 00:42:30.949
few years in terms of salary cap. That's a good

00:42:30.949 --> 00:42:33.190
question, and that's good speculation there.

00:42:33.489 --> 00:42:37.130
Does that also include the Josh Atencio incoming

00:42:37.130 --> 00:42:41.130
money that we got? No, I don't believe so. But

00:42:41.130 --> 00:42:44.070
that $1 .15, I think, would, because that took

00:42:44.070 --> 00:42:47.420
place. prior to march right yes yeah yeah so

00:42:47.420 --> 00:42:51.699
that does but so uh yeah so potentially we have

00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:55.679
money gam that we can use but again let's not

00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.559
get gam money confused with tam money you're

00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.599
not going to be able to get a player that's of

00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.380
deep equality or equivalent or you know close

00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:05.619
to it you're not going to get a paul areola type

00:43:05.619 --> 00:43:08.139
of player yeah no jesus ferreira no yamar no

00:43:08.139 --> 00:43:12.019
christian we're talking to danny mazovsky uh

00:43:12.019 --> 00:43:15.969
well knew who but I don't know why he, I mean,

00:43:15.969 --> 00:43:18.510
I guess he's right on the cusp, right? But Jao

00:43:18.510 --> 00:43:21.210
Paulo and the older Jao Paulo, Jackson Ray, because

00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:22.869
he's coming. So it's either a young player that's

00:43:22.869 --> 00:43:25.230
just coming up or it's an older player who's

00:43:25.230 --> 00:43:27.610
coming off of being that TAM level player. Yeah.

00:43:28.130 --> 00:43:30.389
And so one of the things you got to keep in mind,

00:43:30.389 --> 00:43:35.130
though, with all of that is that the. uh yeah

00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:37.469
the roster rules are are not super transparent

00:43:37.469 --> 00:43:39.690
that's a little unfortunate there's people that

00:43:39.690 --> 00:43:41.050
probably turn this off because they're like what

00:43:41.050 --> 00:43:42.929
the hell are they talking about hey we don't

00:43:42.929 --> 00:43:47.090
make these rules no no and that's okay but but

00:43:47.090 --> 00:43:52.190
what we have done consistently is is field winning

00:43:52.190 --> 00:43:57.389
teams with what we're given and it's it's it's

00:43:57.389 --> 00:44:04.000
just a i i wish we all I wish we all had a good

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.840
understanding what the rules were so that we

00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.619
can make good informed arguments. Because a lot

00:44:08.619 --> 00:44:11.119
of times I read some, oh, why don't we do this?

00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.300
If only we did this. And what they're proposing

00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:18.500
isn't even a possibility. It's literally not

00:44:18.500 --> 00:44:25.199
allowed. And if people could. You know, if you

00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:27.480
want to make criticism because there are there

00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.739
is room for criticism. There's room for, you

00:44:29.739 --> 00:44:32.820
know, agreeing or disagreeing on the way we construct

00:44:32.820 --> 00:44:37.400
our rosters. I happen to really like it. I just

00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.380
think if that areola injury hadn't happened,

00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.119
imagine the heights this team could be reaching,

00:44:42.179 --> 00:44:46.500
even with all the other injuries. I was you and

00:44:46.500 --> 00:44:49.300
I watching areola, you know, we're looking at

00:44:49.300 --> 00:44:51.360
each other like, oh, my God, this is this is

00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:56.369
going to be great for that game. I mean, all

00:44:56.369 --> 00:45:00.269
I can say is, in the words of Dylan Thomas, and

00:45:00.269 --> 00:45:04.170
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00:45:04.170 --> 00:45:08.869
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00:45:09.329 --> 00:45:16.650
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00:47:46.900 --> 00:47:49.800
Oh, that sounds nice. By the way, I appreciate

00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.000
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Thank you. Welcome back. Welcome back, everybody.

00:47:59.780 --> 00:48:02.639
Yeah, let's talk about the Minnesota game. But

00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.599
before that, I just want to say you and I were

00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.119
in a meeting the other day with Peter Tomozawa,

00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:11.219
who is the CEO of World Cup Seattle. Yeah, nice

00:48:11.219 --> 00:48:13.039
to see him again. Yeah, it was fun to get in

00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:14.320
there and talk to him and kind of learn what's

00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.320
going to happen. I don't mean to bring it up.

00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.900
to actually talk about a lot what we were talking

00:48:18.900 --> 00:48:20.820
about but we did talk about at the club world

00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:24.260
cup they had some sounders fans get to use the

00:48:24.260 --> 00:48:27.599
boards i'm blanking on the name right now that

00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.659
let them feel with their hands what's going on

00:48:30.659 --> 00:48:34.199
on the field at the soccer game so they could

00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.300
actually keep track of it and then i was just

00:48:37.300 --> 00:48:39.920
at dinner a couple nights ago at bang bang kitchen

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:41.619
on the block from my house if you haven't been

00:48:41.619 --> 00:48:45.030
there amazing new mexican food from uh new mexico

00:48:45.030 --> 00:48:49.329
uh it's fantastic sisters uh miki and yuki that

00:48:49.329 --> 00:48:52.590
own it go check it out but uh i ran into a guy

00:48:52.590 --> 00:48:54.789
there who named david who works for the state

00:48:54.789 --> 00:48:58.409
who is uh partially sighted and he said he got

00:48:58.409 --> 00:49:00.210
to use it for he's used it for both baseball

00:49:00.210 --> 00:49:02.769
and basketball and it's fantastic yeah they're

00:49:02.769 --> 00:49:06.139
called uh one court thank you One Court is the

00:49:06.139 --> 00:49:09.400
company that does this, onecourt .io, and they

00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:12.980
create these tablets that are trackable vibrations

00:49:12.980 --> 00:49:15.800
so they can watch the game with their fingertips

00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:18.380
because all of these sports now basically have

00:49:18.380 --> 00:49:24.280
a GPS chip inside their balls. Yeah. My favorite

00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.019
thing to have happen to me, I'll tell you what.

00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.000
I mean, it's usually court mandated when you've

00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:34.239
been... Nope. Nope. But yeah, so you know, there's

00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.139
so much data out there now that they can translate

00:49:36.139 --> 00:49:40.900
it to the physical field that the - Instantaneously,

00:49:40.900 --> 00:49:45.360
practically, with minimal lag. And I actually

00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.059
had the sincere pleasure to chat with one of

00:49:49.059 --> 00:49:53.840
our fellow ECS members that I've known for years,

00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:57.980
and I love picking his brain. just to kind of,

00:49:57.980 --> 00:50:00.599
you know, he gives me great feedback of things

00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.980
to bring up to the Alliance Council. And he's

00:50:02.980 --> 00:50:04.639
the one that brought this to my attention that

00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.780
he got to use one of these tablets during the

00:50:06.780 --> 00:50:10.840
Club World Cup and was just blown away by it.

00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.179
And then I saw some Instagram videos of another

00:50:13.179 --> 00:50:16.599
visually impaired person being able to use it,

00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.199
but they had their, what looked to be like their

00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.739
nine -year -old daughter on their lap. And he

00:50:22.739 --> 00:50:27.090
was talking. through the game with his daughter

00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:29.530
because he could feel immediate, you know, he

00:50:29.530 --> 00:50:31.469
had his headphones from listening to play by

00:50:31.469 --> 00:50:35.190
play. And it's just so, so great to see this

00:50:35.190 --> 00:50:39.190
kind of technology. And I believe we are allowed

00:50:39.190 --> 00:50:43.929
to share that the, that FIFA is trying to, they're,

00:50:43.929 --> 00:50:46.510
they're trying to negotiate with FIFA. Peter

00:50:46.510 --> 00:50:48.869
is trying to negotiate with FIFA to get tablets

00:50:48.869 --> 00:50:52.440
at all the games for the world cup. um because

00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.820
it's such a cool thing and and talking to someone

00:50:54.820 --> 00:50:57.199
who had first -hand experience and and this is

00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.699
not a question for you and i uh i think but i

00:50:59.699 --> 00:51:02.159
would be curious if there's anyone out there

00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:05.679
who who is not sighted uh even though my vision

00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:07.460
is getting worse and worse and i think i need

00:51:07.460 --> 00:51:13.280
new glasses already uh if you don't have a concept

00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.579
of what the field is like because you you were

00:51:15.579 --> 00:51:18.659
never previously had full vision can your brain

00:51:18.659 --> 00:51:23.380
process Like how would you – like I could close

00:51:23.380 --> 00:51:25.320
my eyes and put my fingers on it and feel it.

00:51:25.380 --> 00:51:26.920
And because I know what a soccer field looks

00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.400
like, a baseball field, a basketball court, I

00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.219
could easily translate in my head. And the person

00:51:32.219 --> 00:51:34.099
I was talking to who used it had been previously

00:51:34.099 --> 00:51:36.159
sighted and lost his sight over time. So I'm

00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.760
curious. Someone who was born without sight,

00:51:39.860 --> 00:51:42.500
how they learn about soccer? Yeah, and can they

00:51:42.500 --> 00:51:45.960
– what kind of visual images can it create for

00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.510
them? Or are there even visual images? Like,

00:51:49.510 --> 00:51:52.989
it's interesting. I don't know. So if that's

00:51:52.989 --> 00:51:56.289
you, you know, shoot us a message. I'd love to

00:51:56.289 --> 00:51:58.550
hear about it. This is something that's really

00:51:58.550 --> 00:52:01.730
fascinating to me in particular. My grandmother

00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:06.610
was legally blind. And she spent time in the

00:52:06.610 --> 00:52:10.150
70s as the president of the American Association

00:52:10.150 --> 00:52:12.570
of the Blind. Now, that part's a little unclear

00:52:12.570 --> 00:52:14.969
to me, whether it was the Buffalo chapter or

00:52:14.969 --> 00:52:18.829
just the entire thing. That part's a little unclear

00:52:18.829 --> 00:52:24.610
to me. But she was one of those people that was

00:52:24.610 --> 00:52:27.429
just beloved by so many. It was just the biggest

00:52:27.429 --> 00:52:32.639
heart. I'd never really thought about it until

00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.019
my adult years, just how it was just part of

00:52:37.019 --> 00:52:38.960
my life living with someone who was visually

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.340
impaired. And then as an adult, kind of looking

00:52:43.340 --> 00:52:46.119
back at that and realizing, oh, yeah, I guess

00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:49.760
those are things that maybe other people don't

00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:52.239
really consider or think of that were just kind

00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.920
of a normal part of seeing grandma. Yeah. Are

00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.239
there... You don't need to talk about this if

00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.659
you don't want to, but has your intake of the

00:53:01.659 --> 00:53:04.579
game changed over time based on the technologies

00:53:04.579 --> 00:53:06.380
available to you with some of the stuff you have

00:53:06.380 --> 00:53:10.380
going on with your hearing? Well, you know, last

00:53:10.380 --> 00:53:16.579
year I returned to hearing aids and I used to

00:53:16.579 --> 00:53:18.980
wear them in the early 90s and the technology

00:53:18.980 --> 00:53:22.400
was just not there. took them out i hated them

00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:24.980
and didn't want to go back to them because it

00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:30.659
was just it was really really bad um since i've

00:53:30.659 --> 00:53:35.039
gone back to wearing hearing aids uh i can hear

00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.599
our beloved stadium announcer much better usually

00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:42.619
being in the front row of ecs i am literally

00:53:42.619 --> 00:53:45.800
the furthest away from the speakers As you can

00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:49.119
be, you know, kind of dead center right in front

00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:51.980
of the goal. That's about as far away from all

00:53:51.980 --> 00:53:55.099
the speakers as you can get while remaining in

00:53:55.099 --> 00:53:59.500
the seated area. And so oftentimes I wouldn't

00:53:59.500 --> 00:54:01.579
be able to hear anything that James would say.

00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.239
So being able to hear him, that certainly happened.

00:54:06.380 --> 00:54:08.559
And also a few years ago when they started going

00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:11.920
to captions and putting in closed captioning,

00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:16.179
that also helped a lot for me. So, yeah, for

00:54:16.179 --> 00:54:17.920
that. And that's something that we talked about

00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:23.239
on the Alliance Council and really kind of sharing

00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:26.679
a need for that. And I know the Sounders have

00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:31.440
also been good about autistic children and kids

00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.260
with sensory needs. I think we're lucky in that

00:54:35.260 --> 00:54:39.699
regards that the GM of the Seahawks has a kid

00:54:39.699 --> 00:54:42.460
who... has those sensory needs and so when he

00:54:42.460 --> 00:54:44.219
was there he said we got to put this in the stadium

00:54:44.219 --> 00:54:46.380
no matter what so not that the sounders haven't

00:54:46.380 --> 00:54:47.760
done anything it's like but the infrastructure

00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:49.460
when the infrastructure is there it makes it

00:54:49.460 --> 00:54:52.860
real easy right yeah yeah and so and so these

00:54:52.860 --> 00:54:55.800
are things that the the club do take into account

00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.380
um i think one of the things we talked about

00:54:58.380 --> 00:55:03.659
with the world cup is the idea that people coming

00:55:03.659 --> 00:55:09.489
from other countries that have ada needs will

00:55:09.489 --> 00:55:13.030
find themselves quite surprised because the level

00:55:13.030 --> 00:55:17.469
of accommodations that U .S. have for ADA needs

00:55:17.469 --> 00:55:21.329
versus other countries and other stadiums, we

00:55:21.329 --> 00:55:24.630
are kind of world leaders in that regard. Whereas

00:55:24.630 --> 00:55:30.010
in other countries, they don't. I think the number,

00:55:30.210 --> 00:55:32.309
who was it that told us that? It might have been

00:55:32.309 --> 00:55:35.530
Paul. Paul Cox, yeah, who worked with an international,

00:55:35.789 --> 00:55:39.840
went to school and then became. uh uh and or

00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.039
i guess he's living in spain and was working

00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.820
in an international agency yeah and he said you

00:55:45.820 --> 00:55:47.099
know they have eight or nine seats in the whole

00:55:47.099 --> 00:55:50.820
stadium sometimes for ada people you know that

00:55:50.820 --> 00:55:53.019
is i mean i guess it's not ada in that country

00:55:53.019 --> 00:55:54.340
because that's the americans with disability

00:55:54.340 --> 00:56:00.900
act the spa the spain spaniard spaniards with

00:56:00.900 --> 00:56:05.019
disabilities spaniard but no so yeah so it's

00:56:05.019 --> 00:56:08.929
just really interesting there um so so I mean,

00:56:08.949 --> 00:56:12.670
it's such an interesting thing that people who

00:56:12.670 --> 00:56:15.730
don't have any sort of concerns like that, and

00:56:15.730 --> 00:56:17.429
I think we ran into the same thing with the LED

00:56:17.429 --> 00:56:19.090
lights when they were brought in and they affect

00:56:19.090 --> 00:56:23.230
people, some people in different ways, particularly

00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:26.190
they can cause seizures. Those are things that

00:56:26.190 --> 00:56:28.829
you don't think of as an able -bodied person

00:56:28.829 --> 00:56:30.409
always, and it gives you a different perspective.

00:56:31.849 --> 00:56:35.369
Yeah, and it's really great to see that talking

00:56:35.369 --> 00:56:39.179
with Peter at the... world cup headquarters here

00:56:39.179 --> 00:56:42.019
in seattle the fifa seattle headquarters that

00:56:42.019 --> 00:56:44.500
they are taking these things into consideration

00:56:44.500 --> 00:56:50.760
that they're really trying to um focus on what

00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.679
happens outside of the stadium so you know that's

00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:55.880
kind of what fifa seattle is really working on

00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.219
fifa i can't wait to announce some of the stuff

00:56:58.219 --> 00:57:00.760
because it's going to be so cool yeah and and

00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.079
so one of the one of their goals that they that

00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.659
they said in this meeting that i really took

00:57:06.659 --> 00:57:12.739
to heart was their goal is to go for a 1962 world

00:57:12.739 --> 00:57:15.739
fair impact on the community. Yeah. And I think

00:57:15.739 --> 00:57:19.219
that's such a brilliant way to look at it. Cause

00:57:19.219 --> 00:57:21.059
the world cup, you're getting a new monorail.

00:57:22.420 --> 00:57:25.659
Ooh, cue the song. Let's do, let's sing the song.

00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:31.579
We don't want to pay. Yeah, we don't know. No,

00:57:31.659 --> 00:57:35.300
but, but no. So that I think is a really great

00:57:35.300 --> 00:57:40.059
goal to shoot for. Yeah. Because there are parts

00:57:40.059 --> 00:57:43.440
of Seattle that have a lasting impact on the

00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.360
World's Fair. I mean, the Space Needle, for example,

00:57:46.460 --> 00:57:48.619
the monorail, as an example, Seattle Center.

00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:55.619
And part of what we're already seeing, the waterfront

00:57:55.619 --> 00:57:58.500
has been revitalized. Part of that was knowing

00:57:58.500 --> 00:58:03.039
that the World Cup was coming. So seeing how

00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.179
wonderful it is. If you haven't taken a walk

00:58:05.179 --> 00:58:07.400
from Pike Place Market in the Seattle Aquarium

00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.199
down to the stadium, do that. The one thing that

00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:11.960
struck me about it, and they're going to make

00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:15.699
it even better, obviously, but this is something

00:58:15.699 --> 00:58:20.420
that I've heard from day one of Seattle putting

00:58:20.420 --> 00:58:23.789
in the bid for it. is how walkable a city Seattle

00:58:23.789 --> 00:58:26.730
actually is, particularly in those areas. Because

00:58:26.730 --> 00:58:28.349
you don't always think of it that way because

00:58:28.349 --> 00:58:30.329
of the weather and whatever. But compared to

00:58:30.329 --> 00:58:33.710
other cities, I mean, I remember the guy from

00:58:33.710 --> 00:58:35.789
FIFA being like, this is amazing that you can

00:58:35.789 --> 00:58:38.449
walk from the Kraken game to the Sounders game.

00:58:38.750 --> 00:58:40.969
Yeah. I actually did it the same time he did.

00:58:41.809 --> 00:58:44.150
Because that was during the... It was the inaugural

00:58:44.150 --> 00:58:46.030
Kraken. Champions League. Yeah. So it was like

00:58:46.030 --> 00:58:48.090
Champions League straight to the inaugural Kraken

00:58:48.090 --> 00:58:52.460
game. But... Uh, it was, it was fantastic. Uh,

00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:56.780
I guess it wasn't, uh, that, yeah. Uh, it was

00:58:56.780 --> 00:58:58.300
one of the first Kraken games. It wasn't the

00:58:58.300 --> 00:59:02.539
inaugural obviously. Uh, but it was something

00:59:02.539 --> 00:59:05.920
that not everyone can do, but you can do it.

00:59:05.980 --> 00:59:08.699
And to find out we're actually a much more walkable

00:59:08.699 --> 00:59:11.960
city than any of the other cities that are, are

00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:14.019
part of, uh, the world cup is pretty, pretty

00:59:14.019 --> 00:59:16.300
interesting. Uh, it's because America is so car

00:59:16.300 --> 00:59:18.610
centric, but. I think I even forget that sometimes

00:59:18.610 --> 00:59:22.269
living in Seattle because I do love to be on

00:59:22.269 --> 00:59:25.530
the light rail. Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong

00:59:25.530 --> 00:59:27.769
because keep in mind, the cities are Atlanta,

00:59:28.170 --> 00:59:31.989
which is a sprawl. Boston, the stadium is in

00:59:31.989 --> 00:59:34.949
Boxborough, which is the equivalent of not even

00:59:34.949 --> 00:59:37.409
SeaTac. It's even further out than that. It's

00:59:37.409 --> 00:59:42.210
like the equivalent of Federal Way. Dallas, and

00:59:42.210 --> 00:59:47.019
oh my God, no. uh houston i don't know enough

00:59:47.019 --> 00:59:50.440
about houston it is just freeways i i mean i've

00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:52.460
never i've driven around houston at rush hour

00:59:52.460 --> 00:59:54.519
never threw it and it took me three hours just

00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:57.840
to get past it like uh kansas city los angeles

00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:01.480
yikes miami uh which the stadium's nowhere near

01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:05.880
downtown new york new jersey no philadelphia

01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.719
san francisco bay area and seattle so yeah seattle

01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.000
is That's absolutely the walkable option. Oh,

01:00:14.179 --> 01:00:17.820
and I'm assuming Bay Area, they're doing it at

01:00:17.820 --> 01:00:21.460
Fort Dyer Stadium. Yeah, which isn't, it's over.

01:00:21.579 --> 01:00:23.219
I mean, if you're trying to walk to an In -N

01:00:23.219 --> 01:00:26.219
-Out. Yeah, there's one close to there. I mean,

01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:28.280
if you want to go watch movies, the Mercado 16,

01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.199
not a far walk, but it's at the site of the old.

01:00:31.710 --> 01:00:34.250
paramount great america so it's it's not it's

01:00:34.250 --> 01:00:36.710
just it's just in the shitty part of santa clara

01:00:36.710 --> 01:00:39.690
it's not even your stuff no no but that's the

01:00:39.690 --> 01:00:42.010
whole point is so yeah so seattle seattle is

01:00:42.010 --> 01:00:44.909
not it's not even close it's not even close so

01:00:44.909 --> 01:00:46.769
i think it's gonna be super fun with everything

01:00:46.769 --> 01:00:49.750
they set up out there and just kind of do around

01:00:49.750 --> 01:00:52.989
town um i'm excited you know i'm having to wrap

01:00:52.989 --> 01:00:55.369
my brain around the fact that i may only get

01:00:55.369 --> 01:00:57.150
to go to that one game that we have the right

01:00:57.150 --> 01:01:01.789
to buy for yeah but um you know if i get into

01:01:01.789 --> 01:01:04.329
that game then i i guess i'm more privileged

01:01:04.329 --> 01:01:07.449
than most of the other multi -billion number

01:01:07.449 --> 01:01:08.809
of people in the world that are going to be able

01:01:08.809 --> 01:01:11.289
to watch it so yeah and and that's why we kind

01:01:11.289 --> 01:01:13.510
of went with that is the idea that hey if we

01:01:13.510 --> 01:01:15.949
can go to one game watching the u .s play a group

01:01:15.949 --> 01:01:21.670
stage game in person great um you want to talk

01:01:21.670 --> 01:01:23.809
some sounders let's talk some sounders let's

01:01:23.809 --> 01:01:26.090
talk about that let's talk about that game a

01:01:26.090 --> 01:01:34.309
little bit um Hey, there we go. This happens

01:01:34.309 --> 01:01:36.730
in soccer. We were the better team. We deserved

01:01:36.730 --> 01:01:40.530
better. We were the better team. We got good

01:01:40.530 --> 01:01:43.170
opportunities. Minnesota did what they've done

01:01:43.170 --> 01:01:46.170
all year long, which is give up possession and

01:01:46.170 --> 01:01:50.230
score on a set piece. They did it. They executed

01:01:50.230 --> 01:01:56.590
their game plan. Hats off to them. Fry was out

01:01:56.590 --> 01:01:59.699
of position. Late goal for them. We had a bunch

01:01:59.699 --> 01:02:01.960
of chances at the end. We only, to me, looked

01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:03.619
dangerous at the end of the game, if I'm being

01:02:03.619 --> 01:02:05.639
honest. Like beforehand, we might have had a

01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:08.199
few okay chances. Like some half chances. Once

01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:12.139
the subs came on, and maybe it's because Minnesota

01:02:12.139 --> 01:02:14.199
was tired. Maybe it's just because we subbed

01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.539
on some damn good players. And I think it's also

01:02:16.539 --> 01:02:18.559
because once they got the goal, they were just

01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:21.400
content to sit back and defend because worst

01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.320
case scenario, they get a draw. But that's where

01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:26.639
we looked the most dangerous. But Fry was out

01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.460
of position on their goal. uh and and i don't

01:02:29.460 --> 01:02:31.039
know if it makes a difference but new who also

01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:33.280
didn't cover his man who was stepping back and

01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:35.119
kicked it into the goal i don't know why i knew

01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:37.239
who was covering him i did not go back to look

01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.260
and see if he switched over and shouldn't have

01:02:39.260 --> 01:02:41.239
been on him and someone else left him open so

01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:42.739
that doesn't mean it's new who's fault i'm just

01:02:42.739 --> 01:02:44.500
saying what happened in that moment that in that

01:02:44.500 --> 01:02:46.380
moment knew who was the closest player right

01:02:46.380 --> 01:02:49.360
and and he stepped still on size but in front

01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.420
of new who to kick it in didn't get followed

01:02:51.420 --> 01:02:54.260
but there's you know there could have been a

01:02:54.260 --> 01:02:56.219
communication mistake where someone else was

01:02:56.219 --> 01:02:57.440
supposed to be kind of there's all sorts of things

01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.420
that could happen so don't think this is me hating

01:02:59.420 --> 01:03:01.079
on new who i know people like to think i hate

01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:02.699
new who despite the fact that i have a new jersey

01:03:02.699 --> 01:03:08.000
uh and uh i just i get frustrated when he doesn't

01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:11.980
um when he makes mistakes the one's bound to

01:03:11.980 --> 01:03:15.960
do behind the net angle of that shot i think

01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.219
was the most telling for me as someone who plays

01:03:18.219 --> 01:03:20.599
goalie in both hockey and interesting soccer

01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:25.349
tell me more well Fry comes out and he makes

01:03:25.349 --> 01:03:30.650
this kind of really awkward marionette type of

01:03:30.650 --> 01:03:33.030
movement, like just kind of his hands and legs

01:03:33.030 --> 01:03:35.429
are just kind of doing this weird thing. What

01:03:35.429 --> 01:03:39.570
that tells me, it looked to me like when he's

01:03:39.570 --> 01:03:43.730
coming out, he's defending off of what he expects

01:03:43.730 --> 01:03:47.289
to be a flick on header. And when that didn't

01:03:47.289 --> 01:03:49.949
come and the ball continues, it's almost like

01:03:49.949 --> 01:03:51.949
a dummy, even though it was kind of. Yeah, yeah,

01:03:52.070 --> 01:03:54.800
yeah. But it looked like it should have been

01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:57.760
a header. So he wasn't actually out of position.

01:03:57.840 --> 01:03:59.539
He was in the position you would have expected

01:03:59.539 --> 01:04:02.860
the ball to go if you're a soccer player. And

01:04:02.860 --> 01:04:05.320
sometimes as a goalie, I've had that happen where...

01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:08.639
i'm watching and reading the body mechanics and

01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:12.219
the body language and i'm making my move to make

01:04:12.219 --> 01:04:14.800
a save based off their mechanics but they just

01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.719
fucking flub the shot and it like trickles just

01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:21.099
to your side i mean even as a defender i i i'm

01:04:21.099 --> 01:04:22.539
doing the same i'm watching where their knees

01:04:22.539 --> 01:04:24.900
are i do that uh you couldn't do with eusebio

01:04:24.900 --> 01:04:27.000
but i actually learned it from that short documentary

01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:28.980
where eusebio's knees pointed all the different

01:04:28.980 --> 01:04:30.980
directions so you couldn't follow his knees yeah

01:04:30.980 --> 01:04:32.820
most of the time you follow someone's knees instead

01:04:32.820 --> 01:04:34.139
of their eyes so you know where they're going

01:04:34.139 --> 01:04:37.739
and and and i think that's what happened i think

01:04:37.739 --> 01:04:42.139
that the ball should have been flicked on yeah

01:04:42.139 --> 01:04:47.179
and when that didn't happen he just misread it

01:04:47.179 --> 01:04:50.059
he came out to challenge was trying to to make

01:04:50.059 --> 01:04:53.679
himself big for that and when they missed the

01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:57.380
flick on header and the ball bounced through

01:04:57.380 --> 01:05:00.380
it just kind of nope it were kind of kind of

01:05:00.380 --> 01:05:04.849
screwed at that point no This was like the earlier

01:05:04.849 --> 01:05:06.809
Minnesota game in some ways, even though there

01:05:06.809 --> 01:05:08.769
was way more goals and that we struggled with

01:05:08.769 --> 01:05:14.349
some of the low block. I view it more the model

01:05:14.349 --> 01:05:17.130
that LAFC has set up now where we couldn't get

01:05:17.130 --> 01:05:19.650
past them, but they had some cutting passes and

01:05:19.650 --> 01:05:21.789
scored on us and basically blew us out in that

01:05:21.789 --> 01:05:23.769
game. But it was like three good passes is what

01:05:23.769 --> 01:05:25.829
made the difference in that game. This was not

01:05:25.829 --> 01:05:28.849
that either. So this was a game, I think the

01:05:28.849 --> 01:05:33.670
sound, I mean, what did someone say, 0 .02? goals,

01:05:33.670 --> 01:05:37.429
expected goals off that shot. That I wouldn't

01:05:37.429 --> 01:05:39.889
be surprised. I mean, but I mean, it's ridiculously

01:05:39.889 --> 01:05:44.070
low. Like the Sounders had 29 % possession. Yeah.

01:05:44.469 --> 01:05:46.650
And we, but we know, we know they're going to

01:05:46.650 --> 01:05:48.769
play like that. So my question becomes all the

01:05:48.769 --> 01:05:52.010
stats aside, did we get out coached in the game?

01:05:52.070 --> 01:05:54.190
Because we changed our style. Wait, wait, let

01:05:54.190 --> 01:05:56.110
me finish. Okay. I'm listening. We changed our

01:05:56.110 --> 01:05:58.820
style. We changed. the players on the field,

01:05:58.900 --> 01:06:02.000
did we do that in response to Minnesota? And

01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.699
so we didn't play our game or was it rotating

01:06:04.699 --> 01:06:06.639
the roster because of what we know is coming

01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:11.219
tomorrow? So I guess could be the other answer.

01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:13.739
So, so I, I, I'm not sure which one it is, but

01:06:13.739 --> 01:06:16.739
it felt like because we, to me, we changed our

01:06:16.739 --> 01:06:18.500
style instead of playing the kind of game that

01:06:18.500 --> 01:06:20.159
we usually play where we can score a lot of goals.

01:06:20.820 --> 01:06:24.420
We just, we seem boring and uncreative for two

01:06:24.420 --> 01:06:27.940
thirds of that game. It wasn't like those earlier

01:06:27.940 --> 01:06:29.760
games this year that you praised the Sounders

01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.639
so much where they could have scored seven, eight,

01:06:31.659 --> 01:06:35.639
nine goals and just couldn't score. No, I feel

01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:39.280
like even at our best, we had one to two goals

01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:50.320
in us with what we saw in the field. But I felt

01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:52.239
like we did better than a one -nothing loss.

01:06:54.570 --> 01:06:56.550
And that's just going to happen sometimes, you

01:06:56.550 --> 01:07:00.130
know, St. Clair made, made a couple of saves

01:07:00.130 --> 01:07:04.030
that he needed to make. So this is good on him.

01:07:04.469 --> 01:07:08.409
That one set. I know. I know. And I still don't

01:07:08.409 --> 01:07:10.690
like St. Clair because he stole Tyler Miller's

01:07:10.690 --> 01:07:14.289
not Tyler Miller. Yeah. Cause Tyler Miller had

01:07:14.289 --> 01:07:16.590
the chance to be the starter and then, and then

01:07:16.590 --> 01:07:18.110
they brought in St. Clair and he never let go

01:07:18.110 --> 01:07:21.070
of the role. No, and I respect him for it. I

01:07:21.070 --> 01:07:22.949
respect him for it, but yeah. It makes me not

01:07:22.949 --> 01:07:25.949
like him because Tyler Miller, I mean, maybe

01:07:25.949 --> 01:07:29.210
it's the Dutra effect where Tommy just makes

01:07:29.210 --> 01:07:32.769
everyone look good, but I'm surprised he hasn't

01:07:32.769 --> 01:07:36.130
caught on as a regular first team player. I mean,

01:07:36.150 --> 01:07:37.690
he is getting, he's still in the league, he's

01:07:37.690 --> 01:07:42.940
still playing, but he's not a star. No, no. And

01:07:42.940 --> 01:07:47.480
he might be the kind of journeyman who has a

01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:51.260
hot year here and there and gets that opportunity.

01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.760
But I do like Tyler Miller. He's played one.

01:07:55.099 --> 01:07:58.199
Oh, that's not the same Tyler Miller, is it?

01:08:00.659 --> 01:08:05.739
It is. No, that's a different. Yeah. He's now

01:08:05.739 --> 01:08:08.920
32, and he actually plays in League One for the

01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:13.019
Bolton Wanderers. Oh, wow. Good for him earlier

01:08:13.019 --> 01:08:15.159
this year. I mean, he just moved there obviously

01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.739
because the season just started last year because

01:08:18.739 --> 01:08:21.779
he was at DC 23, 24 season. And so he went over

01:08:21.779 --> 01:08:23.979
to knots County. He didn't get any minutes and

01:08:23.979 --> 01:08:26.539
now he's on Bolton water. Wow. Good for Tyler.

01:08:28.420 --> 01:08:32.100
Cool. All right. And I mean, and he did not get

01:08:32.100 --> 01:08:34.119
any appearances with them. He was on the bench

01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.649
for all of them for knots County. um yeah he

01:08:37.649 --> 01:08:40.949
he was he got brought in for basically a month

01:08:40.949 --> 01:08:44.609
and a half as a backup keeper until the end of

01:08:44.609 --> 01:08:47.170
the season he joined the league two side uh in

01:08:47.170 --> 01:08:48.909
case they needed him and then they released him

01:08:48.909 --> 01:08:51.350
at the end of the season so he i don't even think

01:08:51.350 --> 01:08:52.810
he was brought in with the intention of getting

01:08:52.810 --> 01:08:58.489
any minutes but uh bolton is that where uh wayne

01:08:58.489 --> 01:09:00.390
rooney is who's their coach or was he the coach

01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:03.180
How did he, because it's interesting because

01:09:03.180 --> 01:09:05.079
he was coached by Wayne Rooney at DC United and

01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:10.699
suddenly he was playing over in England. Steve

01:09:10.699 --> 01:09:13.220
Schumacher is Bolton's head coach right now.

01:09:13.340 --> 01:09:15.800
Okay. I can't remember where Wayne Rooney has

01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:17.439
been saying some stuff that I agree with lately,

01:09:17.579 --> 01:09:19.159
which is really weird because he was always kind

01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:22.520
of a block head. And so I kind of like him right

01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:28.199
now. Okay. That's pretty funny. um but yeah so

01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:30.939
you you felt like this isn't don't freak out

01:09:30.939 --> 01:09:33.579
whereas i'm like this bugs me because this is

01:09:33.579 --> 01:09:36.560
the same old story sounders can't any team that

01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:38.619
goes into low block knows how to shut us down

01:09:38.619 --> 01:09:41.859
and why don't more teams do this okay but why

01:09:41.859 --> 01:09:45.199
shouldn't we worry about that because this is

01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:48.859
our first loss in like 11 games this is it also

01:09:48.859 --> 01:09:51.039
makes us it knocks us out of the top three probably

01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:54.579
for the playoffs hey hey you know what here's

01:09:54.579 --> 01:09:59.170
the thing when What kind of drives me nuts is

01:09:59.170 --> 01:10:02.710
just the first time something goes wrong, it's

01:10:02.710 --> 01:10:05.350
like, okay, here's where it is. This is the same

01:10:05.350 --> 01:10:08.430
old Sounders. Completely disregarding the fact

01:10:08.430 --> 01:10:12.149
that for two -thirds of the season, we would

01:10:12.149 --> 01:10:15.829
be the league leaders, the way we've been playing.

01:10:16.329 --> 01:10:22.750
So one game does not make a season. I didn't

01:10:22.750 --> 01:10:26.279
see anything in this game. That made me worry

01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:29.939
for the state of the Sounders, especially considering

01:10:29.939 --> 01:10:33.279
we didn't have a single DP on the field until

01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:45.100
the 75th minute. Let me kind of run this down

01:10:45.100 --> 01:10:48.899
really quick. So we're going with our third string

01:10:48.899 --> 01:10:55.840
center back. Weed Baker Whiting in the midfield,

01:10:55.899 --> 01:10:57.939
who a position he has not played, he has not

01:10:57.939 --> 01:11:04.899
started at all season long. I just, I'm just

01:11:04.899 --> 01:11:07.420
not, I'm not worried. And Minnesota is a good

01:11:07.420 --> 01:11:12.180
team. And honestly, Eric Ramsey might be, might

01:11:12.180 --> 01:11:15.060
not be long for MLS. I have a feeling he's going

01:11:15.060 --> 01:11:20.039
to go to Europe probably, probably within the

01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:26.239
next year. Wow. Okay. He is. So, so if I understand

01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:29.739
correctly, Minnesota United is not just good

01:11:29.739 --> 01:11:35.060
at set pieces. They are worldwide. Good. How

01:11:35.060 --> 01:11:37.199
many players they have left? Cause they've sold

01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:39.500
off like three of their main players leading

01:11:39.500 --> 01:11:40.979
into this game. Now they've gotten a player census

01:11:40.979 --> 01:11:43.579
game, but they've sold off three of their main

01:11:43.579 --> 01:11:45.439
players and were pissed because they were expecting

01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:47.199
more players. And they felt like they were giving

01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:49.619
up on the season. This game seemed to change

01:11:49.619 --> 01:11:51.640
there. They have some elite talent there though.

01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.880
You're right. And, and, and again, I think, I

01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:59.380
think globally they are, they are like, I don't

01:11:59.380 --> 01:12:02.260
know where they stand globally, but I do know

01:12:02.260 --> 01:12:04.899
that they're in the elite company with their

01:12:04.899 --> 01:12:09.420
set piece conversion ratio. Um, like, like elite

01:12:09.420 --> 01:12:13.600
company. And so, so Eric Ramsey is trying something

01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:17.539
different that isn't seen in global soccer. Um,

01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:21.939
he might be onto something. We're two -thirds

01:12:21.939 --> 01:12:23.760
of the way through the season. It's more than

01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:27.760
just a gimmick. Minnesota is winning games with

01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:30.220
under 30 % possession. This is not the first

01:12:30.220 --> 01:12:31.800
time they've done this. This is part of their

01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:35.479
strategy. That is unprecedented. Yeah, absolutely.

01:12:36.739 --> 01:12:41.680
Real quick, I just want to say that Tyler Miller

01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:46.050
started... The Bolton Wanderers Sheffield Wednesday

01:12:46.050 --> 01:12:49.109
EFL Cup match the other day, which finished tied

01:12:49.109 --> 01:12:51.609
3 -3. So he gave up three goals in it, but both

01:12:51.609 --> 01:12:54.350
teams scored three goals. And then Bolton lost

01:12:54.350 --> 01:12:58.829
on penalties 7 -5. So he ended up losing the

01:12:58.829 --> 01:13:03.609
game. But wow, he was very involved for the Bolton

01:13:03.609 --> 01:13:07.909
Wanderers in that game. That's good for him,

01:13:07.970 --> 01:13:10.369
man. I hope all this looks... He was such a nice

01:13:10.369 --> 01:13:13.399
young man, even though he's the same age. i have

01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:17.760
a game warren tyler miller usl s2 jersey right

01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.659
there nice he was the goalie when i got my picture

01:13:20.659 --> 01:13:22.600
taken with s2 when i was the man of the match

01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:25.520
or whatever it was called back then nice very

01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:29.100
nice yeah i mean here's the thing is i'm worried

01:13:29.100 --> 01:13:30.880
other teams are going to emulate what minnesota

01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:33.060
did but maybe other teams can't because they're

01:13:33.060 --> 01:13:37.020
not good enough so I mean, the real thing for

01:13:37.020 --> 01:13:39.079
me is I was worried we were going to finish fourth

01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:41.319
and then have to host Portland in fifth. But

01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:43.100
LAFC has two games in hand, and they're going

01:13:43.100 --> 01:13:47.100
to be a mess to play against. So we could be

01:13:47.100 --> 01:13:49.520
playing at LAFC first round with the fifth seed

01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:52.439
right now. So we'll see what happens. Keep our

01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:56.420
head down. I want a top two seed just so we could

01:13:56.420 --> 01:13:59.500
have had the home field advantage through the

01:13:59.500 --> 01:14:04.220
Western Conference final. You know, or maybe

01:14:04.220 --> 01:14:05.640
all the way through, depending on what happens

01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.039
at the top of the table. Is San Diego for real?

01:14:08.140 --> 01:14:11.779
We'll see. It was just after the run we'd been

01:14:11.779 --> 01:14:13.939
on, that was not how I expected things to go

01:14:13.939 --> 01:14:15.399
in that game. I thought we would have learned

01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.140
something from the previous games. And this feels

01:14:18.140 --> 01:14:20.460
like something that happens to us on the road

01:14:20.460 --> 01:14:23.220
sometimes. And that's, I think, true across the

01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:28.159
board in soccer, probably. But also... It reminds

01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:30.319
me how many home games we've had lately with

01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.520
the league's cup and all these other games. It's

01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:34.000
go. Oh yeah. We've been playing so much at home.

01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:36.960
No wonder we've been just like, because you're

01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:38.739
coming out of your own bed. You're not having

01:14:38.739 --> 01:14:40.619
to fly anywhere. You're, you know what I mean?

01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:43.800
Like you can just go through matters. Yeah. That

01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:47.960
stuff matters. So one, nothing loss. Bummer.

01:14:48.100 --> 01:14:49.960
I mean, I think we got to move on and see what

01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:52.319
happens next. I am worried that it's a portent

01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:54.220
of things to come. We will see. You obviously

01:14:54.220 --> 01:14:56.989
are not. Which brings us to tomorrow's match

01:14:56.989 --> 01:15:00.210
versus Puebla. The announcer on Apple seemed

01:15:00.210 --> 01:15:02.409
to think that it was going to be a tough game

01:15:02.409 --> 01:15:06.750
for us against the bottom of Liga Emekis. Now,

01:15:06.789 --> 01:15:08.270
every team is obviously going to beat anyone

01:15:08.270 --> 01:15:11.829
any given Sunday. I would assume that there's

01:15:11.829 --> 01:15:14.390
a very good chance we win this match just based

01:15:14.390 --> 01:15:18.189
on our talent versus their talent. Well, one,

01:15:18.390 --> 01:15:24.050
yes. But two, the big question mark is... Puebla

01:15:24.050 --> 01:15:26.010
just fired their coach. So this will be their

01:15:26.010 --> 01:15:29.369
new coach's first game, Martin Bravo or Martine

01:15:29.369 --> 01:15:33.550
Bravo. I mean, they won, win four losses, including

01:15:33.550 --> 01:15:36.250
a seven Oh loss and they lose to nothing the

01:15:36.250 --> 01:15:38.590
last match. So yeah, it's, it's been a rough

01:15:38.590 --> 01:15:43.229
go of it for them. Yeah. So, so this is an opportunity.

01:15:43.409 --> 01:15:48.489
I mean, here's the thing is, is if you're Puebla,

01:15:48.569 --> 01:15:53.960
do you, I think you, you go all in on this. You

01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:56.399
go all in because this is an opportunity. New

01:15:56.399 --> 01:16:00.779
coach. You're four games or three games away

01:16:00.779 --> 01:16:03.659
from a potential title. You're three games away

01:16:03.659 --> 01:16:05.800
from a potential title. You're, you're, you're

01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:09.739
two wins away from making champions league. Yeah.

01:16:11.180 --> 01:16:14.300
So, I mean, it's, it's an incredible opportunity

01:16:14.300 --> 01:16:15.899
and it's not like they're going to come into

01:16:15.899 --> 01:16:17.899
our stadium and be, Oh, it's such a, they play

01:16:17.899 --> 01:16:19.939
in front of 48 ,000 people at their stadium all

01:16:19.939 --> 01:16:26.430
the time. Now, I will say their quality of player

01:16:26.430 --> 01:16:30.350
is not quite up to ours in terms of across the

01:16:30.350 --> 01:16:32.189
board, our players are worth more than theirs.

01:16:34.710 --> 01:16:38.829
I think that we have more talent on the field,

01:16:38.869 --> 01:16:42.289
but they're going to want to come in and win

01:16:42.289 --> 01:16:44.850
and show us that we can't be cocky. So it's going

01:16:44.850 --> 01:16:49.789
to be a very interesting match, I think. Yeah.

01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:55.760
I think with our home record, only one team has

01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.520
beaten us at home. Ironically enough, Minnesota.

01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:04.619
I mean, I guess you can say PSG and Atletico

01:17:04.619 --> 01:17:10.239
and Portofogo, but we'll just somewhat discount

01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:15.180
that. Yeah, come on. Our form has been good.

01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:20.460
Even this game, looking at who we had playing.

01:17:21.469 --> 01:17:27.689
I'm not feeling like it's going to be a blowout,

01:17:27.729 --> 01:17:31.050
but I feel like we should be controlling and

01:17:31.050 --> 01:17:35.670
dictating how this game goes. I'd hope so. What

01:17:35.670 --> 01:17:38.930
I don't know is who's going to officiate the

01:17:38.930 --> 01:17:46.189
match. I sincerely hope that it's a ref with

01:17:46.189 --> 01:17:50.399
experience and not someone. I don't know how

01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:52.340
it works. There have been matches in which there's

01:17:52.340 --> 01:17:54.279
been a Mexican ref, even though we've been playing

01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:57.500
a Mexican team. Yeah, the last Tijuana match

01:17:57.500 --> 01:18:02.619
was that, for sure. I hope that it is a Canadian,

01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:09.199
U .S., or Mexican ref, just because we're getting

01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:17.100
down to the final games, and so we really should

01:18:17.100 --> 01:18:21.159
have... better refs than what we've seen yeah

01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:22.680
i think they would put the hopefully put the

01:18:22.680 --> 01:18:26.539
best ones through right yeah and and what i found

01:18:26.539 --> 01:18:32.239
is i found that what ends up happening is i feel

01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:37.420
like the more experienced refs are coming from

01:18:37.420 --> 01:18:42.239
u .s canada and mexico and i think that my theory

01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:45.800
is the other teams in conca calf just don't the

01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.949
refs don't play And they don't get a chance to

01:18:48.949 --> 01:18:51.970
ref enough high -quality games because the leagues

01:18:51.970 --> 01:18:56.630
just aren't as high -quality as Liga MX or MLS.

01:18:57.170 --> 01:19:00.850
And unfortunately, that's just kind of what happens.

01:19:00.909 --> 01:19:04.350
It's like putting in a single -A baseball umpire

01:19:04.350 --> 01:19:06.909
into a Major League Baseball game. You're going

01:19:06.909 --> 01:19:11.010
to see things are going to be different. Or high

01:19:11.010 --> 01:19:16.029
school football in an NFL game. Yeah. And let's

01:19:16.029 --> 01:19:20.300
talk about their run. They lost 4 -0 to Minnesota

01:19:20.300 --> 01:19:24.460
in their first game. They beat Chicago 11 -10

01:19:24.460 --> 01:19:28.319
on penalties in the second game. I'm not sure

01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:31.100
what the actual score of that game is. I'm pulling

01:19:31.100 --> 01:19:34.699
that up right now. What the regular time score

01:19:34.699 --> 01:19:41.220
was 1 -1. They lost to Miami 2 -0. Then they

01:19:41.220 --> 01:19:47.569
beat Tigris 2 -1. Beat New York City. Oh, that's

01:19:47.569 --> 01:19:49.449
last year's. Okay, let's back up. I was like,

01:19:49.510 --> 01:19:50.869
they didn't play as many games. What's going

01:19:50.869 --> 01:19:54.170
on here? You're making this up as you go along.

01:19:54.229 --> 01:19:56.609
I went the other direction. So I thought the

01:19:56.609 --> 01:19:58.149
latest games would be on top. They're on the

01:19:58.149 --> 01:20:00.630
bottom. Excuse me for that. So most recently

01:20:00.630 --> 01:20:03.750
they beat Montreal 2 -1 playing a 3 -4 -3. They

01:20:03.750 --> 01:20:10.130
lost to Columbus 3 -1 in a 3 -4 -2 -1. And then

01:20:10.130 --> 01:20:14.149
they beat New York City 3 -0 in a 3 -5 -2 flat

01:20:14.149 --> 01:20:20.350
five. That's interesting. But so they probably

01:20:20.350 --> 01:20:25.229
play five at the back sometimes because they'll

01:20:25.229 --> 01:20:26.689
do what the Sounders kind of did this last match.

01:20:26.869 --> 01:20:30.310
Three center backs and two wing backs that go

01:20:30.310 --> 01:20:32.649
up more. Although interesting in that Sounders

01:20:32.649 --> 01:20:35.369
match, you had Nuhu going outside of Reed Baker

01:20:35.369 --> 01:20:37.750
whiting at times, which kept giving me a heart

01:20:37.750 --> 01:20:40.529
attack because I was afraid Reed was going to

01:20:40.529 --> 01:20:41.829
run up and they weren't going to communicate.

01:20:42.069 --> 01:20:46.380
But here's a team that... will be interesting

01:20:46.380 --> 01:20:48.840
to see what happens but they they did beat new

01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:50.539
york city three nothing and montreal two to one

01:20:50.539 --> 01:20:54.300
um new york city seemed to just not show up in

01:20:54.300 --> 01:20:57.779
that tournament at all though um what do you

01:20:57.779 --> 01:20:59.720
well it's weird because once you lose the first

01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.739
game you're you're you're pretty much out yeah

01:21:02.739 --> 01:21:08.220
like what's in yeah yeah so what is your um they

01:21:08.220 --> 01:21:09.840
won they ended up winning one and losing two

01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:13.720
in that tournament uh but uh what is your thinking

01:21:14.329 --> 01:21:16.090
than going into this match i mean if they're

01:21:16.090 --> 01:21:18.869
going to play five at the back uh are we going

01:21:18.869 --> 01:21:20.930
to try and exploit it with our quick wings or

01:21:20.930 --> 01:21:23.449
what do you think we do well i think we come

01:21:23.449 --> 01:21:28.229
out attacking um i think that i think that we

01:21:28.229 --> 01:21:33.289
uh i feel like we come out we come out swinging

01:21:33.289 --> 01:21:38.350
what that means i don't know uh i i feel like

01:21:38.350 --> 01:21:41.750
i feel like pedro's gonna start Good news is

01:21:41.750 --> 01:21:45.930
their left wing row. Castile will be out. Interesting.

01:21:46.470 --> 01:21:51.829
He got a red against Montreal. So, so he will

01:21:51.829 --> 01:21:56.770
not be playing. That's a damn shame. I mean,

01:21:56.789 --> 01:21:58.869
we'll take, we'll take, we'll take all of that

01:21:58.869 --> 01:22:02.350
in the, in the 91st minute. Yeah. You got, you

01:22:02.350 --> 01:22:04.970
got a yellow in the 89th for descent. And then

01:22:04.970 --> 01:22:08.250
you got two minutes later, got a foul for his

01:22:08.250 --> 01:22:11.729
second yellow. Wow. That sucks for them. Yeah.

01:22:12.550 --> 01:22:15.729
And he was someone who, in that game, created

01:22:15.729 --> 01:22:18.729
the most chances in the match. He had an assist.

01:22:19.029 --> 01:22:25.810
He had three shots, had an assist, was creating

01:22:25.810 --> 01:22:30.149
some offense for them. So that's a damn shame.

01:22:31.470 --> 01:22:34.449
I do not know who the ref is. I was trying to

01:22:34.449 --> 01:22:36.130
see if I could look up and figure out who the

01:22:36.130 --> 01:22:38.449
ref was going to be. I don't have that information.

01:22:39.350 --> 01:22:41.470
Um, which is kind of a bummer. I was, I was hoping

01:22:41.470 --> 01:22:44.989
to figure that out. Yeah. But, uh, we'll see

01:22:44.989 --> 01:22:47.010
if they've announced it yet. I'll try to look

01:22:47.010 --> 01:22:49.170
at my source. It's not, it's not under pro ref,

01:22:49.350 --> 01:22:52.710
uh, because it's, it's run by leagues cup. So

01:22:52.710 --> 01:22:54.909
no, but they, they definitely had, they, they,

01:22:54.949 --> 01:22:58.229
before they were listing it, um, in terms of

01:22:58.229 --> 01:23:01.069
who, who was going to be on the website for leagues

01:23:01.069 --> 01:23:03.989
cup, but we'll see if, uh, if not, I can put,

01:23:04.010 --> 01:23:07.850
put our friend over at, uh, nag down in uh the

01:23:07.850 --> 01:23:11.130
la galaxy podcast uh he'll he'll get he'll get

01:23:11.130 --> 01:23:12.850
on it for us because he he knows where to find

01:23:12.850 --> 01:23:14.229
all that information because he does a little

01:23:14.229 --> 01:23:15.949
breakdown of who the referee is going to be for

01:23:15.949 --> 01:23:18.550
every game which i love the only reason i don't

01:23:18.550 --> 01:23:20.609
do it is i don't want us to focus on the referee

01:23:20.609 --> 01:23:22.489
unless there's a reason to you know what i mean

01:23:22.489 --> 01:23:24.710
no i get it i get it i'm just curious if it's

01:23:24.710 --> 01:23:27.390
going to be you know if it's if it's just going

01:23:27.390 --> 01:23:32.819
to be uh you know like i mentioned I was curious

01:23:32.819 --> 01:23:34.939
if it was going to be a U .S., Canadian, Mexican

01:23:34.939 --> 01:23:38.039
ref. Well, I do know the ref with the most appearances

01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:41.680
in this year's – the refs with the most appearances

01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.500
in this year's League's Cup, the most is a Jamaican,

01:23:45.579 --> 01:23:51.000
followed by a Guatemalan, a Honduran, another

01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.939
Guatemalan, and then a couple of Costa Ricans.

01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:57.600
So you've got to go all the way down. There's

01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:00.720
one American and a bunch of Mexicans and a Canadian.

01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:05.060
below that. Although, now I should care for what

01:24:05.060 --> 01:24:06.500
I wish for, because we're going to get Canadians.

01:24:06.539 --> 01:24:09.760
It's going to be Drew Fisher. Oh, gosh. Yeah.

01:24:10.539 --> 01:24:13.560
Thankfully, he's not the Canadian that's been

01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:17.260
doing the games. His name, oh, no. Pierre -Luc

01:24:17.260 --> 01:24:20.619
Lozier. He's a Frenchman. You're making that

01:24:20.619 --> 01:24:23.960
up. That's not even a real name. That's not a

01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:29.479
real person. No, no, no. Oh, no. No, no, no.

01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:32.399
But he's a ref from the... We are turning into

01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:34.680
Looney Tunes. He's from the... He does the Canadian

01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:38.300
Premier League. Okay. Most recently, he did the

01:24:38.300 --> 01:24:41.060
Canadian Championship in 2022, where Vancouver...

01:24:41.060 --> 01:24:43.260
I mean, in terms of large Canadian Championship

01:24:43.260 --> 01:24:46.760
matches, Vancouver beat Toronto 6 -4 in penalties.

01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.800
And he did a Central American Cup match between

01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:55.600
Alou Houlince versus Rael Esteli. But, yeah,

01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:58.319
we've seen some interesting... So speaking of

01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:00.100
which, I don't know what happened. Vancouver

01:25:00.100 --> 01:25:02.960
FC was potentially going to play Vancouver in

01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:06.000
the Canadian Cup final. Can you imagine if that's,

01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:08.159
I don't know what happened in the second leg,

01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:11.640
but that would have been really cool to see.

01:25:12.180 --> 01:25:17.340
Oh, the second match happens in September. Okay.

01:25:18.579 --> 01:25:21.680
So right now Vancouver is tied with the Forge

01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:24.590
2 -2 on aggregate, meaning. Whitecaps. And then

01:25:24.590 --> 01:25:29.630
Vancouver FC is up 3 -1 on Atletico Ottawa. So

01:25:29.630 --> 01:25:32.109
September 16th and 18th, we know. We might have

01:25:32.109 --> 01:25:34.050
an all. I mean, we should go up, honestly, to

01:25:34.050 --> 01:25:35.729
the Canadian Cup final if it's Vancouver versus

01:25:35.729 --> 01:25:40.409
Vancouver. That'd be fun. That would be. I love

01:25:40.409 --> 01:25:43.689
going up for a game. I was texting with a friend

01:25:43.689 --> 01:25:47.229
of mine who is from British Columbia who went

01:25:47.229 --> 01:25:52.289
to Mueller's first game Sunday to see Vancouver

01:25:52.289 --> 01:25:58.689
play. And late, late tie game there. Not Atlanta,

01:25:58.710 --> 01:26:01.229
Houston. Houston scored a late stoppage time

01:26:01.229 --> 01:26:06.489
winner. Not winner, but to make it 1 -1. So Houston

01:26:06.489 --> 01:26:09.909
helped us out a little bit there. Damn shame.

01:26:09.989 --> 01:26:12.729
But Mueller actually scored a beautiful banger

01:26:12.729 --> 01:26:15.789
that was offside. I have to go watch those highlights.

01:26:17.170 --> 01:26:18.810
We're getting near the end here, so I'd be remiss

01:26:18.810 --> 01:26:21.020
if I didn't mention, holy cow, did the... The

01:26:21.020 --> 01:26:23.340
rain blow a huge lead yesterday. And then were

01:26:23.340 --> 01:26:27.100
you there? No, but Dan and I were talking about

01:26:27.100 --> 01:26:31.000
that. And I did not have both Seattle teams blowing

01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.739
a 3 -0 lead at home on my bingo card. Yeah, not

01:26:34.739 --> 01:26:37.739
only that, the third goal for Chicago was scored

01:26:37.739 --> 01:26:40.359
by their goalie on a corner kick at the end of

01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:43.300
the game. Like, oh, talk about - I thought they

01:26:43.300 --> 01:26:44.800
ruled it an own goal. Did they change that? Oh,

01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:47.180
did they? I don't know. When it happened, all

01:26:47.180 --> 01:26:48.699
the thing that popped on my phone, because I

01:26:48.699 --> 01:26:50.500
stopped paying attention when we were up 3 -0,

01:26:50.579 --> 01:26:53.319
like, oh, this game's over. I got other stuff

01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:55.800
to do. And then suddenly I got a notification

01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:59.060
from ESPN sending me the video of the goal. No,

01:26:59.100 --> 01:27:05.479
they nair, Alyssa nair. Yep. So, yeah. Oh, God.

01:27:05.819 --> 01:27:09.060
So let's wrap it up then with a little finish

01:27:09.060 --> 01:27:11.729
up this Lease Cup. Well - Before anything, before

01:27:11.729 --> 01:27:16.069
anything, let's just say our winner for the Minnesota

01:27:16.069 --> 01:27:20.529
game. Yes. Who's been off the winner's board

01:27:20.529 --> 01:27:24.210
for quite some time and is now back in Dan the

01:27:24.210 --> 01:27:26.770
Bastard. Dan, you're back. It's because he's

01:27:26.770 --> 01:27:30.210
been so optimistic lately. He keeps picking optimism

01:27:30.210 --> 01:27:32.729
as his choice, and that is not working out well

01:27:32.729 --> 01:27:35.100
for him. Wait, wait, shouldn't it be the other

01:27:35.100 --> 01:27:36.739
way? No, it shouldn't be the other way around

01:27:36.739 --> 01:27:38.720
where he's picking negative, but we've been doing

01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:42.079
so well that he has. Yeah, it's it's it's he's

01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:43.760
he's been so optimistic that he's picking us

01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:46.119
to win all these games. And so this must have

01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:49.500
changed his mind. No, I did look to see it. He

01:27:49.500 --> 01:27:53.020
did. He did pick a draw. um but but we've been

01:27:53.020 --> 01:27:55.300
in a good run of form and unfortunately we just

01:27:55.300 --> 01:27:57.319
didn't weren't able to get it done i mean i had

01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:00.479
to enter into i'm sure you saw because i i i

01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:03.079
accidentally put fry as my goal scorer when i

01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:05.439
did the right thing and i was like no no no and

01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:07.000
then it was the edit button i went to hit the

01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:08.520
edit button and then it refreshed out of the

01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:10.399
way i was like no and so i just put in the new

01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:12.699
one no i wasn't picking fry to score the goal

01:28:12.699 --> 01:28:14.520
although if i had and that was the right answer

01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:16.479
i think i would have should have deserved a million

01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:22.720
extra points for you up yeah um To be fair, if

01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:30.680
you make an error and you need to put in a second

01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:33.340
entry, go right ahead because I will count the

01:28:33.340 --> 01:28:39.720
most recent entry as your entry. So if you put

01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:41.859
in more than one entry, I just take the most

01:28:41.859 --> 01:28:44.460
recent one and I only count that one just as

01:28:44.460 --> 01:28:50.659
an FYI there. Very nice. So look in the Discord

01:28:50.659 --> 01:28:54.539
channel for the match day, Sounders match day.

01:28:55.140 --> 01:28:57.220
Let's talk about predictions. We'll be able to

01:28:57.220 --> 01:28:58.699
do it. Yeah. I mean, I want to get predictions

01:28:58.699 --> 01:29:01.079
from all four games for you. So we have all four

01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:03.520
quarterfinal matches tomorrow. And obviously

01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:05.159
we haven't gone in depth on these other teams,

01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:09.239
but gut feeling. 5 p .m. Seattle time. Miami,

01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.500
Tigris at Miami. Two seed versus the five seed.

01:29:13.859 --> 01:29:16.789
That's the original starting seeds. not the new

01:29:16.789 --> 01:29:19.829
seeds based on performance. Who do you have winning

01:29:19.829 --> 01:29:24.810
Miami? Tigris. Real quick, I was trying to pull

01:29:24.810 --> 01:29:28.090
up the – pulling up the league's cup in here,

01:29:28.229 --> 01:29:32.029
and that's kind of throwing me off because they

01:29:32.029 --> 01:29:38.250
aren't in foot mob under – oh, there we go. Wait,

01:29:38.390 --> 01:29:40.270
because I was looking at today, not tomorrow.

01:29:40.409 --> 01:29:42.770
Tigris is averaging 55 % possession, and Miami

01:29:42.770 --> 01:29:46.239
is 50. They're both averaging 18 .7 shots a game.

01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:49.479
No, Tigris Miami, I've got Tigris winning this

01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.300
one. Okay, nice. That'll be an interesting game

01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:56.039
for sure, especially if Messi's healthy and playing.

01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:02.199
Next, coming up at, I don't know. 5 .50. 5 .50,

01:30:02.220 --> 01:30:04.399
the times just went away when I clicked through

01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:09.279
on something here. You have Toluca. hosting orlando

01:30:09.279 --> 01:30:10.920
so i don't know where i guess i could click through

01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:13.140
to find out i'm not sure it's in la it's in la

01:30:13.140 --> 01:30:16.800
okay yeah it's perfect at la galaxy stadium is

01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:19.539
it a double header then it is that's why la galaxy

01:30:19.539 --> 01:30:23.100
that's why la galaxy are playing at 8 45 which

01:30:23.100 --> 01:30:26.000
spoiler alert is going to impact my choice for

01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:29.100
that game that is so fun wow i wish i wish we

01:30:29.100 --> 01:30:30.880
could go to a double header so here's the deal

01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:34.659
toluca as one of the four teams that were in

01:30:34.659 --> 01:30:39.029
the next four that were not america or Cruz Azul.

01:30:39.189 --> 01:30:43.029
Yeah. They were guaranteed a, a home quote unquote

01:30:43.029 --> 01:30:47.869
home game in this round only. So after this round,

01:30:47.989 --> 01:30:56.529
the, if an MLS team is, is in, it will be hosted

01:30:56.529 --> 01:30:58.569
by the MLS. So you're saying they, if they win

01:30:58.569 --> 01:31:01.310
and it's that the MLS team would be Miami means

01:31:01.310 --> 01:31:03.010
Miami one. So they would be playing at Miami.

01:31:03.550 --> 01:31:08.779
Yes. Yeah. But if it's too. If it's two Liga

01:31:08.779 --> 01:31:13.260
MX teams, it'll be hosted at a venue of choice

01:31:13.260 --> 01:31:19.439
by the higher ranking in phase one. So I actually

01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:22.939
don't recall who phase one standings, boom. But

01:31:22.939 --> 01:31:25.760
that's irrelevant for our purposes right now.

01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:27.560
Yeah, it would be Toluca. So Toluca would be

01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:30.119
hosting Tigres in that match if they were to

01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:35.340
advance. So with that in mind. I love the gamesmanship

01:31:35.340 --> 01:31:37.960
right from the start from to Luca. They made

01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:41.020
him Orlando go cross country. Yeah. They picked,

01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:43.520
they picked the venue furthest away from Orlando.

01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:45.079
Only thing that would have been there would be

01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.859
Seattle, but then they wouldn't get the two Luca

01:31:47.859 --> 01:31:52.060
fans. Right. So I think that's going to come

01:31:52.060 --> 01:31:55.640
to, I think that's going to be a double whammy.

01:31:56.020 --> 01:31:59.720
It's going to, it's going to help to Luca and

01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:03.520
it's going to get to Luca the win. Nice. What

01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:07.800
do you think? Orlando is an interesting team

01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:12.079
where they can destroy Miami. Orlando's been

01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:18.039
scary good this year. Oh, and they beat KC. They

01:32:18.039 --> 01:32:20.960
lost to somebody in the middle of all that, though.

01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:27.159
They're on a big run. Yeah, they're on a good

01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:30.199
run. So their last loss was New York City back

01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:35.460
on July 16th. They've had a really fun run here.

01:32:35.579 --> 01:32:38.600
They've won six of their last seven. They were

01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:43.000
down 1 -0 to Casey early, which I think that's

01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:44.340
what I saw. And I was like, oh, interesting.

01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:47.600
But yeah, so Orlando on fire. I got to go with

01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:50.399
Orlando, even going across the country, just

01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:53.800
the way they've been playing. Fair enough. I

01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:56.539
mean, they may be the hottest team in the MLS

01:32:56.539 --> 01:32:59.260
now that the Sounders lost. Well, yeah, they

01:32:59.260 --> 01:33:01.460
are. I mean, they've won like seven straight.

01:33:01.819 --> 01:33:03.960
So I think Orlando can come across and win that.

01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:04.920
I don't know what the score will be, but I'm

01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:06.640
picking Orlando to win. So let's skip us then.

01:33:06.699 --> 01:33:09.579
Let's go to LA versus Pachuca. Well, this is

01:33:09.579 --> 01:33:13.720
where I was alluding to a little earlier. Toluca

01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:16.359
not only screws Orlando, but they screw LA Galaxy.

01:33:16.619 --> 01:33:21.119
Yeah. And here's my thinking. So you're Toluca.

01:33:21.699 --> 01:33:24.359
You've got the early game for some reason, probably

01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:27.280
because Orlando's on the East Coast. Yeah. LA

01:33:27.280 --> 01:33:29.899
Galaxy, their game's going to kick off at 845.

01:33:31.619 --> 01:33:34.380
You're doing a doubleheader with two Liga MX

01:33:34.380 --> 01:33:36.779
teams. So you're going to bring in fans of Toluca.

01:33:36.859 --> 01:33:40.039
You're going to bring fans of Pachuca. LA Galaxy,

01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:43.439
fans have not been happy with LA Galaxy as of

01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:46.039
late for good reason. I mean, you heard the Boo

01:33:46.039 --> 01:33:48.079
Birds coming out when they played us and they

01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:53.539
got beat by us. They lost to Miami in their last

01:33:53.539 --> 01:33:57.100
game 3 -1. So I don't expect this to be very

01:33:57.100 --> 01:34:00.079
heavily attended. It's a midweek game, 845 start.

01:34:00.239 --> 01:34:02.819
Why the fuck do you want to show up? So what's

01:34:02.819 --> 01:34:04.479
going to end up happening is this is going to

01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:07.680
be a very pro Liga MX crowd between Toluca and

01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:11.659
Pachuca and any other Liga MX fans that are going

01:34:11.659 --> 01:34:14.779
to be in attendance. So LA Galaxy are going to

01:34:14.779 --> 01:34:16.199
have a home game that's going to feel like a

01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.239
road game and they're going to get their asses

01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:24.020
handed to them. So Toluca screwed over. Orlando

01:34:24.020 --> 01:34:27.279
and LA Galaxy. And I think the Sounders are going

01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:31.239
to be the only MLS team to get out of this stage.

01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:35.100
LA Galaxy has been so good in this tournament.

01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:38.659
I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't

01:34:38.659 --> 01:34:42.079
continue that. But at the same time, they certainly

01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:44.279
didn't against the Sounders. The same players,

01:34:44.340 --> 01:34:45.880
they tried the same thing, and the Sounders shut

01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:49.039
it down. You saw Pantsil doing the stuff that

01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:51.720
he was doing against the other Mexican teams,

01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:54.210
and it didn't work. I think that's probably a

01:34:54.210 --> 01:34:55.869
good call. It's interesting that they let them

01:34:55.869 --> 01:34:58.010
do that and didn't make them play at LAFC Stadium.

01:34:58.449 --> 01:35:00.869
But here's the thing. Have they been that good?

01:35:01.489 --> 01:35:07.329
Because they beat a Santos team 4 -0, a Santos

01:35:07.329 --> 01:35:11.510
team that was down two men to red cards. They

01:35:11.510 --> 01:35:14.369
played better against the teams than we did,

01:35:14.470 --> 01:35:18.050
is what I believe. How they played against the

01:35:18.050 --> 01:35:19.970
teams was better than how we played against those

01:35:19.970 --> 01:35:23.050
same teams. Obviously not Santos. But the other

01:35:23.050 --> 01:35:28.970
two. Well, Tawana got beat 5 -2. So they did

01:35:28.970 --> 01:35:31.189
come out and they did punch them in the mouth

01:35:31.189 --> 01:35:37.090
and they did do that. Although, to be fair, it

01:35:37.090 --> 01:35:42.590
was 2 -1 LA Galaxy at halftime. Tawana scores

01:35:42.590 --> 01:35:45.350
right away to make it 2 -2. Payne still makes

01:35:45.350 --> 01:35:50.510
it 3 -2. And then... A lot of subs happen. LA

01:35:50.510 --> 01:35:53.510
gets two more late in the 82nd and 90th minute

01:35:53.510 --> 01:35:56.010
when I'm assuming Tijuana had to push for that

01:35:56.010 --> 01:35:59.170
goal because you know a loss, you're out. So

01:35:59.170 --> 01:36:02.930
there's that. They play Santos. Because they

01:36:02.930 --> 01:36:05.189
had a chance to advance in the end anyways when

01:36:05.189 --> 01:36:06.989
they were playing us. I mean, that's kind of

01:36:06.989 --> 01:36:10.369
true. But they play Santos after Santos has already

01:36:10.369 --> 01:36:15.170
gotten beat. twice so so santos was already very

01:36:15.170 --> 01:36:19.090
much out of it so they had no hope so what okay

01:36:19.090 --> 01:36:22.149
so so that's that's a nothing burger for them

01:36:22.149 --> 01:36:25.770
so the now i will give some credit to them for

01:36:25.770 --> 01:36:28.949
tying cruz azul 1 -1 but that was right after

01:36:28.949 --> 01:36:33.609
cruz azul got beat 7 -0 so so i'm not entirely

01:36:33.609 --> 01:36:37.390
sure that the galaxies run a form in leagues

01:36:37.390 --> 01:36:40.510
cup can be chalked up to anything more than good

01:36:40.510 --> 01:36:43.850
fortune. Could be. We'll see. We will see tomorrow.

01:36:43.989 --> 01:36:46.050
Yeah, we'll see tomorrow. And that's why I do

01:36:46.050 --> 01:36:48.189
think they're going to be essentially playing

01:36:48.189 --> 01:36:50.869
a road game. And I think they're going to struggle

01:36:50.869 --> 01:36:53.529
mightily. I mean, we played a road game against

01:36:53.529 --> 01:36:57.430
Cruz Azul for being real, and we beat them 7

01:36:57.430 --> 01:37:01.050
-0. But we're not talented. But we also have

01:37:01.050 --> 01:37:03.189
a lot of experience playing a league of MX teams.

01:37:03.250 --> 01:37:05.729
That's true. That's very true. And a lot of experience

01:37:05.729 --> 01:37:08.569
beating Liga MX. So let's do this last one then

01:37:08.569 --> 01:37:10.550
and then get out of here. Seattle Puebla. What's

01:37:10.550 --> 01:37:12.890
your prediction? Oh, yeah, there is that game.

01:37:15.550 --> 01:37:17.229
Here's the problem. I'm not going to be there.

01:37:17.350 --> 01:37:19.750
And that really breaks my heart. I thought you

01:37:19.750 --> 01:37:27.149
were going to change the score. Well. Look, if

01:37:27.149 --> 01:37:28.710
we're struggling, I promise I'll go into the

01:37:28.710 --> 01:37:30.710
bathroom so we score goals. Thank you. Thank

01:37:30.710 --> 01:37:34.069
you. Please do that. I will text you, get in

01:37:34.069 --> 01:37:37.609
the shitter. Because I've talked about it. They

01:37:37.609 --> 01:37:40.170
tend to almost always score. It happened when

01:37:40.170 --> 01:37:42.729
Georgie got his goals because I turned to my

01:37:42.729 --> 01:37:43.970
friend James. I was like, hey, I'm going to go

01:37:43.970 --> 01:37:45.369
to the bathroom because whenever we do, we score.

01:37:45.449 --> 01:37:47.189
And as soon as I walked in the bathroom, goal

01:37:47.189 --> 01:37:53.710
Georgie. With that said, I expect a good lineup.

01:37:54.229 --> 01:37:56.380
It's going to be a little. Bit of a bummer that

01:37:56.380 --> 01:38:01.840
we don't have Albert. Yeah. But I think we've

01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:04.899
got a good enough lineup for our starters to

01:38:04.899 --> 01:38:09.779
get the goals necessary. The thing is. I don't

01:38:09.779 --> 01:38:12.899
know if we've got a good enough lineup for starters

01:38:12.899 --> 01:38:16.960
and a bench to get like four plus goals or three

01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:19.500
goals, but I do think we're going to be up to

01:38:19.500 --> 01:38:22.460
nothing by the time we're in like the 65th minute

01:38:22.460 --> 01:38:24.880
and start thinking about subs. So we'll be up

01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:28.439
to nothing. Now Puebla is going to have to push

01:38:28.439 --> 01:38:30.479
because we're in a knockout competition. We might

01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:33.180
end up getting another goal. We might end up

01:38:33.180 --> 01:38:34.859
giving up a goal. So that's kind of the question

01:38:34.859 --> 01:38:39.600
is, do I think that, do I think that, them pushing

01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.359
hard is going to lead to a third goal for us

01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:44.039
or is it going to be them pushing hard is going

01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:47.680
to get rewarded into a goal and to answer that

01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:49.140
i'm just going to take a quick look at their

01:38:49.140 --> 01:38:54.260
runoff form uh zero goals three goals two goals

01:38:54.260 --> 01:38:57.520
one goal you know but they're missing their their

01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:01.539
their one player i think we are going to win

01:39:01.539 --> 01:39:04.359
two one nice Oh, gosh, my heart can't beat that.

01:39:04.539 --> 01:39:07.399
No, I know. We're going to be up 2 -0. We're

01:39:07.399 --> 01:39:09.300
going to start making subs, and they're going

01:39:09.300 --> 01:39:12.739
to get a late goal to make it 2 -1 and to make

01:39:12.739 --> 01:39:16.619
us kind of close our sphincters a little bit.

01:39:18.100 --> 01:39:21.859
So I'm going to go 3 -1 now until I obviously

01:39:21.859 --> 01:39:25.279
will, Sounders, revise that as I see our roster.

01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:32.199
I think sometimes... When we make subs, how we

01:39:32.199 --> 01:39:35.859
make subs, and who we start lots of times changes

01:39:35.859 --> 01:39:40.279
our success. But I will say that if we were to

01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:43.760
advance, we will be playing on the 26th or 27th.

01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:47.319
So next Tuesday or Wednesday? No, Wednesday or

01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:50.319
Thursday. And then if we make it to the final,

01:39:50.500 --> 01:39:55.020
it would be the 31st, I think. One of those days.

01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:57.539
I assume the third place game would be that same

01:39:57.539 --> 01:40:01.220
day? It is, yeah. Okay. The way the bracket on

01:40:01.220 --> 01:40:03.500
League's Cup has this set up is that we would

01:40:03.500 --> 01:40:07.260
play the 27th in that next match. But I bet you

01:40:07.260 --> 01:40:10.760
there's availability questions and time like

01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:13.859
that. So that could just be a placeholder they

01:40:13.859 --> 01:40:15.340
place in there. But if you were to click through

01:40:15.340 --> 01:40:18.039
on the bracket, it does say the 27th. So the

01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:20.340
semifinal matches are the 26th and 27th, according

01:40:20.340 --> 01:40:23.460
to League's Cup. So expect us to be playing next

01:40:23.460 --> 01:40:26.850
Tuesday or Wednesday. And then if we were to

01:40:26.850 --> 01:40:29.710
win, or I mean, if we play next Tuesday or Wednesday,

01:40:30.010 --> 01:40:36.060
hard stop, we will be playing another game. If

01:40:36.060 --> 01:40:38.699
we win tomorrow. If we win this game, we're guaranteed

01:40:38.699 --> 01:40:41.340
a minimum of two more games. Yes. Or not a minimum.

01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.539
We're guaranteed two more games. Two more games.

01:40:44.140 --> 01:40:46.100
It's just a question. If we lose, we'll play

01:40:46.100 --> 01:40:48.000
in the third place game. Still a chance to get

01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:49.680
in Champions League. If we win, we'll play in

01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:51.260
the championship game. Guaranteed a Champions

01:40:51.260 --> 01:40:54.560
Cup spot before we've even played that match.

01:40:55.140 --> 01:40:58.220
Here's the bottom line. We need two wins to get

01:40:58.220 --> 01:41:00.979
to Champions League. Now, win number one has

01:41:00.979 --> 01:41:05.149
to be tomorrow. Win number two could be... Any

01:41:05.149 --> 01:41:07.250
of the next two games. Yep, any of the next two

01:41:07.250 --> 01:41:10.029
games. So all we got to do is win tomorrow, and

01:41:10.029 --> 01:41:12.470
then we're one win away. So we can finish third.

01:41:13.050 --> 01:41:15.390
We can finish second. We can finish first. We've

01:41:15.390 --> 01:41:18.789
got Champions Cup. Ultimately, I'd love a Leagues

01:41:18.789 --> 01:41:21.529
Cup trophy. Yeah, we don't have one. I care more

01:41:21.529 --> 01:41:25.189
about getting that cup spot, though. So that's

01:41:25.189 --> 01:41:29.550
far. I will say this year has been my favorite

01:41:29.550 --> 01:41:31.949
year of Leagues Cup. Yeah. Last year was kind

01:41:31.949 --> 01:41:36.180
of fun, though. Well, I got to meet the Monterey

01:41:36.180 --> 01:41:40.079
mascot, so I was happy about that. But what it

01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:42.819
is, is this new format with the Swiss ranking,

01:41:42.939 --> 01:41:46.460
where you're not playing any MLS teams, you're

01:41:46.460 --> 01:41:50.739
playing up through the semifinals. This format,

01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:55.720
they've got it right. the only question is is

01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:58.239
four teams from each side enough i don't care

01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:00.159
about that right now that's another question

01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:01.920
for another time because if you're adding more

01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:07.460
teams that's more games i'm i'm not as enamored

01:42:07.460 --> 01:42:12.479
about that but i like the format as it stands

01:42:12.479 --> 01:42:19.119
i i it was interesting to see some of the critiques

01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:23.020
of it where if you you ended up rooting against

01:42:23.020 --> 01:42:25.460
your own league When usually you would be rooting

01:42:25.460 --> 01:42:27.159
for your league because you want your league

01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:29.220
to be the more premier one. But when you're the

01:42:29.220 --> 01:42:31.619
Sounders and you win that first game 7 -0, suddenly

01:42:31.619 --> 01:42:33.420
you're like, I mean, 7 -0 is a little excessive.

01:42:33.819 --> 01:42:36.680
I think we were safe at that point. But if it

01:42:36.680 --> 01:42:39.050
was like 3 -0. But we weren't. Yeah, we weren't.

01:42:39.050 --> 01:42:41.890
The thing is, we weren't. We weren't. But we

01:42:41.890 --> 01:42:45.109
had to do some rooting for some Liga MX teams

01:42:45.109 --> 01:42:48.569
to help us out. So I saw some critiques there,

01:42:48.630 --> 01:42:50.250
but I thought this has been so fun. You're right.

01:42:50.369 --> 01:42:52.989
And let's hope it continues after tomorrow. So

01:42:52.989 --> 01:42:55.890
where can they find you on the internet? Because

01:42:55.890 --> 01:42:57.630
we should get out of here. We should get out

01:42:57.630 --> 01:43:00.569
of here. Just edit it and get it up there. Let's

01:43:00.569 --> 01:43:05.729
find me on Instagram at Cascades2C. Nice. Uh,

01:43:05.810 --> 01:43:08.710
how about you? Good, sir. Anywhere you do social

01:43:08.710 --> 01:43:11.770
media, I'm probably there at legal minded punk.

01:43:11.890 --> 01:43:15.229
Uh, and you can find everyone else, all our ultras

01:43:15.229 --> 01:43:19.750
and Aaron on the, uh, discord. Yeah. Join, join

01:43:19.750 --> 01:43:21.630
the discord. It's a fun place to talk about stuff.

01:43:21.750 --> 01:43:24.630
Join the Patreon. Uh, and one reminder, join

01:43:24.630 --> 01:43:26.810
us on those match day predictions. Join us. You

01:43:26.810 --> 01:43:30.409
can find those and in. discord uh every match

01:43:30.409 --> 01:43:32.409
day because at the end of the season we will

01:43:32.409 --> 01:43:34.949
be giving away some prizes based on uh we'll

01:43:34.949 --> 01:43:38.789
give one prize away to whoever has the most points

01:43:38.789 --> 01:43:41.750
in total throughout the whole season yeah so

01:43:41.750 --> 01:43:44.050
kind of rewarding people who have been playing

01:43:44.050 --> 01:43:47.550
from the very start but hey you you listener

01:43:47.550 --> 01:43:49.829
who's thinking i've never done that fear not

01:43:49.829 --> 01:43:51.750
because we're also going to give out the big

01:43:51.750 --> 01:43:55.899
big prize to all people um The big prize will

01:43:55.899 --> 01:43:58.539
go out to basically every time you play, you'll

01:43:58.539 --> 01:44:01.479
get an entry. Mainly because I want to make sure

01:44:01.479 --> 01:44:03.039
everyone stays engaged on that. I want to give

01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:04.840
everyone a fair chance at that. That's just really

01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:07.380
important to me. And I can announce that the

01:44:07.380 --> 01:44:09.760
big, big prize is going to be a team signed jersey.

01:44:09.859 --> 01:44:12.539
Nice. That is going to be the big, big prize.

01:44:13.260 --> 01:44:15.819
The Bruce Lee kit. So that means you're getting

01:44:15.819 --> 01:44:19.140
Sounders, Raul Ruiz Diaz autograph, right? Yeah.

01:44:19.260 --> 01:44:21.720
Raul's on that one. Oh, that's amazing. Yep.

01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:30.460
Yep. uh so so definitely uh actually if i i can

01:44:30.460 --> 01:44:33.460
take a quick look that might be raul and nico

01:44:33.460 --> 01:44:38.399
might be might be raul and nico because it but

01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:41.840
it might mean warul and nico but not pedro yeah

01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:45.659
matter of fact i'm sure of it because it's the

01:44:45.659 --> 01:44:50.220
original logo not the new logo yeah so it's raul

01:44:50.220 --> 01:44:57.960
and nico wow But yeah, it's a great kit. Looking

01:44:57.960 --> 01:45:02.960
forward to giving that away to someone. Ask why

01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.680
are you giving stuff away? Because we love you,

01:45:05.699 --> 01:45:07.760
the listeners. We want to say thank you for participating

01:45:07.760 --> 01:45:10.460
and helping make this community what it is. It's

01:45:10.460 --> 01:45:13.220
very important to us that we all sit around,

01:45:13.279 --> 01:45:16.779
have a beer, have a good chat. I love running

01:45:16.779 --> 01:45:20.060
into all of you on game days. Yeah, come say

01:45:20.060 --> 01:45:22.890
hi. Yeah, it'll definitely be a bummer not to

01:45:22.890 --> 01:45:27.329
see you tomorrow. Yeah. Dan might be out there.

01:45:27.369 --> 01:45:28.930
I will be. I'll be in the club section with my

01:45:28.930 --> 01:45:32.149
dad, though. But if you see me, say hi. I believe

01:45:32.149 --> 01:45:34.989
Dan is coming out. So you will see Dan the Bastard

01:45:34.989 --> 01:45:37.470
around, most likely in ECS. Say hello to him.

01:45:38.229 --> 01:45:42.369
And Eric. Eric will also. Eric 13 is down there.

01:45:43.170 --> 01:45:47.529
So it should be a fun time. It's a fun community.

01:45:47.649 --> 01:45:51.500
Come join us. It's been so much fun. You know,

01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:53.239
especially with the ultras talking about ways

01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.399
to expand. I think we're going to have flyers

01:45:57.399 --> 01:46:00.340
at the Gorilla FC table when we get back to league

01:46:00.340 --> 01:46:04.840
play for the Sounders at home. And, you know,

01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:08.979
I just, this season's been fun. I'm sad that

01:46:08.979 --> 01:46:12.000
we have, what, nine home regular season games

01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.420
left? Not home, total. It's coming to an end.

01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:18.859
Not fun. But that's okay. We have cups to win.

01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:21.460
We have the ability to win, what, two more cups?

01:46:22.060 --> 01:46:23.920
Is that what we have? League's Cup and MLS Cup?

01:46:24.220 --> 01:46:26.340
What's the third one? What else? Cascadia Cup.

01:46:26.500 --> 01:46:28.880
Oh, yeah. I forgot about Cascadia Cup. So this

01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:30.819
could be a quadruple since we already run the

01:46:30.819 --> 01:46:35.659
Heritage Cup. Yeah. All right. Oh, we didn't

01:46:35.659 --> 01:46:37.819
talk about it earlier. San Diego and San Jose

01:46:37.819 --> 01:46:41.140
named their cup between them the El Camino Cup

01:46:41.140 --> 01:46:43.500
because El Camino Real goes. El Camino Real,

01:46:43.659 --> 01:46:46.340
which is basically Highway 99, which is Aurora.

01:46:46.739 --> 01:46:50.560
Yeah. So it goes between the two. So pretty fun.

01:46:50.619 --> 01:46:55.720
You couldn't score on Camino. Score on Camino.

01:46:57.119 --> 01:46:59.779
Score on Camino. But you know what you can do

01:46:59.779 --> 01:47:02.289
on a Camino Real? Get a damn good burrito. That's

01:47:02.289 --> 01:47:04.109
true. And I used to get my car washed a lot there.

01:47:04.270 --> 01:47:06.369
When I had my 66 Mustang, I'd drive it out to

01:47:06.369 --> 01:47:07.970
one of those touchless car washes and they would

01:47:07.970 --> 01:47:10.329
do it upright for me. El Camino Real had all

01:47:10.329 --> 01:47:13.670
the good restaurants and shops. There you go.

01:47:13.890 --> 01:47:17.930
El Camino Real. Yeah. So funny enough, Cameron

01:47:17.930 --> 01:47:19.710
and I both lived in San Jose around the same

01:47:19.710 --> 01:47:22.550
time. Yeah. We didn't know that. We didn't know

01:47:22.550 --> 01:47:25.720
each other at the time, obviously. But it's kind

01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:27.520
of funny how this all works out all these years

01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:29.920
later. Yep. And you know what? We didn't talk

01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:32.979
about our deaths today. There were some more

01:47:32.979 --> 01:47:34.380
actor deaths that I'm sure we could have talked

01:47:34.380 --> 01:47:36.220
about. But I am going to say R .I .P. Iguanas.

01:47:37.739 --> 01:47:40.729
Better than Lobvick's Burritos. The orange sauce

01:47:40.729 --> 01:47:42.909
at Lawbakes is obviously better. Alaguanas finally

01:47:42.909 --> 01:47:46.569
died after decades. You know what? They had it

01:47:46.569 --> 01:47:49.029
coming. They had the superior burrito, but the

01:47:49.029 --> 01:47:51.909
orange sauce is mythical. Yep, absolutely. So

01:47:51.909 --> 01:47:54.109
let's let James take it away, and I'm going to

01:47:54.109 --> 01:47:56.050
go edit this piece so that we can get it up in

01:47:56.050 --> 01:47:57.409
time for people to listen on their way to the

01:47:57.409 --> 01:48:01.109
game. They make blue pills for that. Good point.

01:48:02.149 --> 01:48:09.640
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