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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say he's cheating! Welcome to Sounders

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Scuttlebutt. I'm your co -host, Cameron Collins,

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and I am here with the one and only Nicholas

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Biala. What's up, Nick? Hey, doing good. How

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are you doing? Doing real good. Sounders with

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a great win. Battle of the Broldans. That was

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quite the pour there. I'm not going to have the

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can today. I've got a bottle, so we'll see if

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this... It may not open. Aaron's didn't sound

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good last time. I know. Oh, that sounded great.

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That came out okay. But it is that time of year.

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It is getting into August. And so I've got my

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Sam Adams Oktoberfest. It's not September yet.

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Come on. I know. It's getting closer. But Bernie

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did a Costco run today, and they had it on sale.

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I got my little bottle koozie, which I think

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you'll appreciate. My Seattle Thunderbirds jersey,

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Patrick Marlowe bottle koozie. We were at that

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game together. Yep, yep. Good old Patty Marlowe.

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My San Jose Sharks slash Thunderbirds crush.

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Don't make that yourself. That's an R. That is

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definitely an R. We were both in San Jose. That's

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true. In Marlowe's Prime. But I went. I followed

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him. I was a year after him. He got drafted in

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98. When is the draft? April 98? Sounds about

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right. And then I followed in the fall of 98.

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So I was one year behind him, basically. Yeah.

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One of my all -time favorite NHL players. Just

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so great. So great. We also shout out to Steve,

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a friend of the show who is a huge Sounders fan

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who is selling a sailboat. If anybody wants in

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on a sailboat, let me know. What's the joke?

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It's not a joke. No, no, no. What's the joke?

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It's like the two best days in a boat owner's

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life is the day you buy it and the day you sell

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it. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think he would have

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someone buy in on it, too, and help him maintain

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it and get, you know, equal use and stuff like

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that. But, yeah, it's there a lot of work. That's

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what I hear. Yeah. Especially when you are a

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busy, busy person. But maybe it's time to start

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a Sounders Yachting Club. Oh, we're going to

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bring that meme back. Okay. Yes. Everything coming

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around full circle. I love it. I'll put a link

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to buying into the boat. Is that really going

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to happen now? Is that really how we're going

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to do this? That's great. That is. Get in on

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it. Wow. I do also want to mention that if you

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scuttlebutt love it love it speaking of scuttlebutt

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Let's see. There's been a busy, busy week around

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MLS. A lot of things have gone on between League's

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Cup and some transfer windows and some signings

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and debuts and all sorts of stuff. Where do you

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want to begin? I mean, I think... I mean, the

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big one really is Sun Hung Min. Yeah, yeah. And

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we actually played, because I think last week

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we talked about the transfer, but having him

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come in a game and immediately draw a penalty

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was pretty incredible. Yeah, and I mean, so first

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off, the largest transfer window or transfer

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fee in MLS history, Sun Hung Min went to LAFC.

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It's exciting for the league. It'll be interesting

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to see. Which direction he goes, if he's going

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to be a Zlatan Ibrahimović -Messi type of signing,

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a David Villa signing? Is it going to be like

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Kaká? All those are very, very successful players.

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He's still in his prime, though. He's on the

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wrong end of his prime, but yes. He's not David

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Beckham. He's not some of these other players

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that came as a retirement. type player this is

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a player someone who could still play in the

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premier league who would still be signed in the

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premier league right yeah right and they wanted

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him to stay at tottenham yeah yeah and so um

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but apparently he wanted to play for a real team

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so um but did you see the interview he said uh

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lafc were not my uh i don't know we're not my

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first choice but uh then i talked to the uh gm

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and he changed my mind or maybe he's the president

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talk to somebody at the team i just i just wanted

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to give a little shade to tottenham when i had

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the opportunity um i mean he's gonna he has an

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actual chance to win a trophy now i mean he won

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one tottenham's only trophy what the the covet

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is back tournament he used to play for portland

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no no didn't they win the europa Yeah, they won.

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I mean, I celebrate when Chelsea wins the lesser

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trophies too, but that's not a real trophy. Come

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on. That's Champions League Junior. I mean, is

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that the equivalent of League's Cup, winning

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a League's Cup trophy at this point? League's

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Cup might be harder. But hey, so do you have

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any thoughts about Son joining the league? I

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mean, I think he's good for the league. I think

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it's good for the Korean community in LA. It's

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huge for them. I think not this season, perhaps

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next season, the Sounders are in real trouble

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if they don't get some quality players. I think

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it further gaps the, or further distances the

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gap between the haves and have nots. I, I, I

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think we're fine this year though. I don't think

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his impact with 10 games left is going to be

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enough that, unless he, he might have big moments,

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but. You know, he's a late signing. Obviously,

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the Sounders can score goals most of the time.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't give the

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most of the time qualifier. Again, in the last

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10 games, they're averaging over three goals

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a game. Yeah, but you should be scoring. If LA

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Galaxy can score four or five goals on a team,

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why are we only scoring two? That's what I'm

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saying. That's what I'm saying. Okay, who do

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you think is your emulation of, like, okay, this

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is an honest, fair question. We're going to do

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this live. Who's your emulation of who do you

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think is the team that you want to emulate offensively

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in the league? I mean, if last year's LA Galaxy,

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maybe. We'll choose this year. Probably Cincinnati.

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Okay. I don't know enough about how they're doing.

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I mean, no, we're doing great. My problem is

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the Sounders. are like Gonzaga. They're playing

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down to the level of their bad opponents. We

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play up against Cruz Azul, but why are we playing

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down to Tijuana? Come on. Let's put in those

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goals. No reason to make those shaky. Let's beat

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a San Jose. San Jose is on a little run, though.

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They're on a little tear, but let's beat those

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bottom -of -the -table teams. Let's make it tough

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against... Let's play good against... We play

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good against a good team. And this is the dynamic

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that I love about you and me, is the... Pessimist

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versus optimist and realist. I get it. How are

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you not a pessimist being from Buffalo? That's

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what I don't understand. Because I use data.

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And I pay attention to that stuff. And that stuff

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just drives me nuts. You know what data says?

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The Mariners have never won the World Series,

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let alone been. For example, two games ago, two

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games ago against Tijuana, at halftime, Discord,

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our Scuttlebutt Discord, there were people panicking

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and thinking that, oh, this is the worst, we

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can't do anything. And the numbers just, and

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the eye test just didn't stack up to that. But

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I think if you look at the Sounders over the

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last, we'll say five years, we have gotten used

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to the Sounders being a dominant team and not

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being able to score. We've gotten used to the

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Sounders putting 20 shots and getting zero to

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one goal. And it's going to happen in soccer.

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I get what you're about to say. This happens

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too much. But with the previous nine games, you

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were seeing a sustained run of this exact team

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doing this. 26 goals in the last eight games.

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And four or five offside goals. We expected this

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the whole season, so am I glad they're doing

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this? Hell yeah. And imagine what we'd be doing

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if we actually had a number nine. I'm just saying

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enjoy the moments and try not to be so negative

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all the time and go, oh, here we go again. I

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enjoyed LA Galaxy. I will say the first half

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of Cruz Azul was one of the most frustrating

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games I've seen all season. because we should

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have been scoring and we weren't. I want us to

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take those big chances against big teams too.

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Now we dominated the second half in a way that

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was incredible. But keep in mind, even in the

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first half of Cruz Azul, we got a goal that got

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called back on offside. So we're creating those

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opportunities. And that one was offsides. Yes,

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yes, that one was. That one in the second half

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wasn't. But that's another thing. That's the

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quickest way to drive me nuts is to make arguments

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that don't even pass the logic test. I don't

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want to call someone out necessarily, but someone

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was saying, oh, well, Jesus Ferreira, another

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offside goal for him. No, that was the first

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time he was offside. I also don't mind offsides

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because... It shows that we're pushing forward,

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right? This isn't like we're not pushing forward

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and they just happen to be offsides. There are

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times where players like, I think it was Rothrock,

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didn't get back onside one time and it was frustrating

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yesterday because if he had just gotten back,

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we would have had three players that could have

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gone through and any of them could have gotten

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the ball. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's when it's

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frustrating to me. If we're getting more offsides,

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the last... seven games is because we are pushing

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forward. And this is what I've wanted to see

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all season. And I think Brian actually made a

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comment along those lines. Very similar echoing

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what you said. Like, Hey, I don't mind offsides

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when it's, you know, just missing the run timing

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a little bit. I mind offsides when you're not

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getting back into position, creating an issue.

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Yeah. Yeah. Now with all that said, we're coming

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in hot here. Yeah. This is some champagne. This

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is some champagne soccer lately. We've been.

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And I think one of the greatest... This is the

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team we expected them to be all season. Well,

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we said right from the get -go, and many people

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said that this Sounders team is, on paper, the

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deepest team in MLS history. And... I can't believe...

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Not anymore. They were, though. They were. But

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no, they still are. They still are. I mean, your

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roster is your roster. Oh, yeah, but I mean,

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the players hurt. Like, you can't look at today's...

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I don't think if you look at who's healthy now,

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they are that. They just happen... The backups

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are just stepping up and doing what they need

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to do. Well, no, I would disagree. They still

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are deep. But we're an injury away from the season

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being in real trouble, I think. Oh, no, 100%.

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There's no other team. Against LA Galaxy, the

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Sounders were without two of their DPs, both

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injured. Two more players who were DPs in JP

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and Paul Areola, injured. Your center back, your

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starting center back, your best 11, or sorry,

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not best 11, he was finalist for Defender of

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the Year last year in Jackson -Reagan, out for

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the game. teams don't withstand that kind of

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stuff and, and dominate a game for nothing. That

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just does not happen. No, that's how, I mean,

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we, we, I don't think there's been a team in

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the history of soccer that has a left mid as

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deep as we do. It's insane. And, and so, and

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so I want to just, cause I, cause I'm, I'm going

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to expect. There to be some negative discourse

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and probably some, there, there going to be some

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very valid points. If we don't get a transfer

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signing in the next couple of weeks, there'll

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be some solid points. I'm worried. I'm worried

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just because we're not, we usually hear these

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rumors and we're not. So I'm a little worried

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because even if it's just a backup, we need somebody

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that can get more minutes at this point. Well,

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I don't think we need, we need a. I don't know.

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What do we need? It depends on how... Did they

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ever announce what... I mean, I know we'll get

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to Sounders, but might as well just... We're

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talking about Rosnack. What... We knew the minimum

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was two to three weeks, but I didn't hear the

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actual results on Friday. Did they announce them

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today? No, no. They just... At least I haven't

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seen that with Rosnack yet. But it sounded like

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Kent was the worst of the two. No, I mean, he's...

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It's... A 4C tear is not only... his hamstring

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completely tearing apart, but tearing off the

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ligament. I don't know how he walked off the

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scene. Kind of like what Kellen Rowe had a few

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seasons ago. It might be worse. He's out three

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to six months. That may be the last we see of

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him in a Sounders uniform, which I hope not.

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Are you sure? I didn't see it that dire. 4C is

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three to six months minimum. And if you do surgery,

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if you don't do surgery, you never know if it's

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going to come back again. And they're saying

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he's not going to do surgery, which surprised

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me, with something that is that bad of a tear.

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That's not what I saw, so I was kind of curious.

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Schmetzer said 4C tear. Also reported by Sounder

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at Heart and others. It's bad. I mean, it's not

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good. I really hope Albert is good. I will get

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into it. But something to talk about is Jesus's

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role as a center attacking mid. So let's make

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sure we get back to that. Yeah, because that

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I mean, that's going to be his position moving

00:16:06.570 --> 00:16:08.330
forward. But yeah, I mean, I think the Sounders

00:16:08.330 --> 00:16:11.789
need to bring someone in. And the position they

00:16:11.789 --> 00:16:14.809
probably need it. They just need another body

00:16:14.809 --> 00:16:19.169
at striker. Honestly, he can be the same quality

00:16:19.169 --> 00:16:22.350
as Osase. Just bring in another body you can

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bring in so that we have one more person in the

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rotation. Well, I mean, we'll see what happens

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with the transfer window. We'll see. It's a challenge

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because you don't necessarily want to sign someone

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for a short -term injury replacement. No. So

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you want to look ahead to what's coming up. But

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unless we're signing more players, we would only

00:16:47.009 --> 00:16:49.129
be getting Jordan back. We only have one player

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coming back at that position. Yeah. But we didn't

00:16:54.350 --> 00:16:58.009
sign Osase this season. So it'll be interesting

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to see. I think that this kind of comes down

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into the idea of roster construction and how

00:17:05.869 --> 00:17:09.069
you want to construct your roster. Now, in an

00:17:09.069 --> 00:17:14.359
MLS... cap situation I am I've always been in

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the mindset of build a deep deep team and that's

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what we've done successfully in our heyday when

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we were winning MLS Cup in 2019 we had more TAM

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players than anyone else in the league and that's

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something that we're doing really well is spending

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our money effectively getting those kind of that

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kind of depth and those kind of top to bottom

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players versus just top loading and then having

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a, you know, a league minimum player. And let's

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remember starting 11, 22 players, ideally who

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we would be bringing in. Yeah. In this window.

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The question is the question I have, and this,

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I don't think is a, I don't think it's a Craig

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problem. You know, you know, I'm positive on

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the things that Craig can do considering the

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restraints that he has in terms of money, both,

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salary and salary cap wise, but this is the third

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straight signing they've tried to bring in that

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has turned us down because they wanted to stay

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in Europe. Okay. So is that a picking problem?

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Are we, are we shooting for the moon and failing?

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So it's like, all right. And then our backup,

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I mean, we, we had, it was our first guy and

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our second guy last time. And really they were

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probably like our fifth and sixth guys because

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you don't hear about some of them, but. If players

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are deciding they don't want to come here from

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Europe, how do you get a player that does want

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to come here? How are you selling players to

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come? Well, I think... It's been a while since

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we brought in a player of that. I mean, De La

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Vega, is he the last one that we brought in from

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somewhere else? And not from Europe. We brought

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him in from South America and he was rebuilding

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his career after injury. I mean, Ryan Kent. Ryan

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Kent, but I think special circumstances there.

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But yeah, maybe that's what we need to do. And

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then I'm noticing we're getting a weird echo

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going on. Are you catching that? Nope. Okay.

00:19:05.390 --> 00:19:10.109
I do not have it. Okay. It might be me. Anyhow.

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Yeah. So there is that. And I hope people are

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remembering that. I just want to kind of get

00:19:17.529 --> 00:19:19.910
ahead of the narrative that we're not doing things

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in the transfer windows. Because we brought in,

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you know, Jesus Ferreira. We brought in Ryan

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Kent. We brought in Paul Areola. i'm not going

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we're not doing anything in the summer transfer

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window which is the big one generally yeah yeah

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but i mean in in the end i don't care when we

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bring people in i want to bring the right people

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in that that's what's important to me yeah our

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difference seems to not be i mean i thousand

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percent agree with you that it's that i want

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them to spend money and i did because it's not

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my money spend the money go get us a player but

00:19:52.829 --> 00:19:56.450
get us get us gabriel peck I mean, it's not always

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that simple. Just look at our team down south.

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Look at Portland and their DP situation that's

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going on there where a player just decides, hey,

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I'm no longer going to play with you. Do you

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want to live in Portland? I mean, not the city.

00:20:08.589 --> 00:20:10.210
Yeah, sure. I'd love to live in Portland. Would

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you want to play for the Timbers? I mean, it

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just feels like these are the kind of issues

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that are going on. So Santi Marino is going to

00:20:20.549 --> 00:20:24.559
go join Fluminense. little bitch owner though

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that's what happens um but also take a look down

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in dallas um you know the hunts run that team

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that's such a poorly i know but but like look

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at lucia lucia costa he was there for you know

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six months and he's gone yeah it's it's just

00:20:45.259 --> 00:20:49.720
crazy I don't want to play for the Hunts. He's

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not the one that runs it. The owner is the other

00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:58.019
brother. 100%. But with the Sounders, you get

00:20:58.019 --> 00:21:00.759
these people that stay with the club and grow

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with the club. So that kind of plays to your

00:21:04.500 --> 00:21:08.180
question here of why aren't we getting these

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targets? It could be as simple as the types of

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players we're targeting. maybe don't buy into

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the ethos. There's just not a big enough sample

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size to really effectively answer that. So all

00:21:21.970 --> 00:21:24.970
of this is really speculation. But I will say

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that by large and large, the players we do bring

00:21:29.269 --> 00:21:34.369
in buy in to what we're doing and more effectively

00:21:34.369 --> 00:21:38.329
integrate with the team, I think. Yeah, and I

00:21:38.329 --> 00:21:42.589
think when they don't, it's a coaching issue.

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And I mean... GM versus coach are not on the

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same page. And that kind of goes across Craig

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and Garth before him. But that's kind of the

00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.359
way it is for most failed signings. That's kind

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of how things go wrong in signing land. So I

00:22:03.339 --> 00:22:04.779
don't think that's really necessarily specific

00:22:04.779 --> 00:22:09.450
to the Sounders. No, but I mean... Yeah, the

00:22:09.450 --> 00:22:12.309
way that we seem to earn spots for playing time,

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I'm still not really understanding. I mean, I

00:22:16.450 --> 00:22:18.470
don't see anything that different from Pedro

00:22:18.470 --> 00:22:20.150
now than we were saying before, other than he's

00:22:20.150 --> 00:22:21.670
playing on the left, which is a natural position.

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So he's playing a little better. Largely, he's

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playing a lot the same. He just wasn't getting

00:22:26.690 --> 00:22:31.559
the minutes. I mean, it... That's a challenge

00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:35.319
that we have as armchair beer drinking analysts

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here and analysts I'm using very loosely. We're

00:22:39.500 --> 00:22:42.680
not there at practice every day. But we get it

00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:44.799
right more often than some of those people who

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are there every day at practice. I don't want

00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.039
to toot our own horn, but I will say that, you

00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:55.420
know, I think we have the Messiah. I enjoy an

00:22:55.420 --> 00:22:57.460
example of that. Hey, let's talk about that.

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Last year we were nailing all this stuff left

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and right. And let's talk about that. How do

00:23:02.630 --> 00:23:06.289
we feel about the nickname Messiah? I mean, it's

00:23:06.289 --> 00:23:09.009
the name that Schmetzer gave it to him. So I

00:23:09.009 --> 00:23:10.569
think we got to stick with it. I mean, Apple

00:23:10.569 --> 00:23:13.930
TV jumped on that. The announcing team were jumping

00:23:13.930 --> 00:23:18.809
all over that. I made a fun little image that

00:23:18.809 --> 00:23:22.250
I posted to our Discord after he scored the first

00:23:22.250 --> 00:23:25.750
goal. But I mean, he's even exceeded. And I'm

00:23:25.750 --> 00:23:29.339
trying not to. toot my own horn too much, but,

00:23:29.339 --> 00:23:33.279
you know, I called this. I said that Danny Mussofsky,

00:23:33.339 --> 00:23:35.599
if he gets that first goal, he's good for five

00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:38.640
to ten all comps. I mean, I think it comes down

00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:41.839
to, though, you... How do I word this? How do

00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.900
I word this? And I know I'm an optimist. But

00:23:45.900 --> 00:23:49.160
you are also given information, because I'm given

00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:51.940
the same information, through conversations that

00:23:51.940 --> 00:23:56.180
make you come to opinions that are based, again,

00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.910
like you said, on facts and figures and based

00:24:00.910 --> 00:24:04.609
on other talent that was brought in it was clear

00:24:04.609 --> 00:24:07.369
the kind of ball we were going to play yeah and

00:24:07.369 --> 00:24:10.529
that he naturally would become a recipient of

00:24:10.529 --> 00:24:14.099
some of the more goal dangerous decisions by

00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:17.299
our left and right right wings yes yes i mean

00:24:17.299 --> 00:24:19.519
that that's like that's like saying that would

00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.480
be like us you and i disingenuously at the beginning

00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.140
of the season saying something along the lines

00:24:25.140 --> 00:24:28.119
of you know this snyder brunel guy i think we

00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.960
should i i think i think i think he's gonna get

00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.079
signed to the first team and and that he's gonna

00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:39.900
be so like when when we were when we were being

00:24:39.900 --> 00:24:42.400
explicitly told that this kid's something special.

00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:45.440
Right. But it wasn't really being. Yeah. Now

00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.980
the Messiah one took a little more extrapolation.

00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:50.640
I mean, you had to think about what they were

00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:53.180
pushing for. Yeah. How much minute, I mean, and

00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:54.900
you said it yourself in the discord, you didn't

00:24:54.900 --> 00:24:56.279
expect them to get this many goals because you

00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:57.539
didn't expect them to get this many minutes.

00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.400
Yeah. But I did expect him to finish on the chances

00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.140
because he was consistently putting himself in

00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:06.700
great spots. And he was just not putting them

00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:08.900
through. And I think maybe we're going to see

00:25:08.900 --> 00:25:10.640
the same thing with Jesus. Hey, did you realize,

00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.000
by the way, I do believe in the David Goss theorem,

00:25:14.140 --> 00:25:16.859
which is kind of the idea that new players coming

00:25:16.859 --> 00:25:19.559
into a team, it takes them six months to a year

00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:22.720
to really integrate fully and to reach their

00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.210
full potential. Obviously, that's really working

00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:28.410
out great for Danny Mussofsky. It's certainly

00:25:28.410 --> 00:25:31.230
starting to come to fruition with Pedro, although

00:25:31.230 --> 00:25:33.970
the caveat was the health on his side, so it

00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:35.569
was tough to tell if he would have integrated

00:25:35.569 --> 00:25:39.589
better earlier. But did you realize that Danny

00:25:39.589 --> 00:25:43.130
Mussofsky is, in fact, Nevada's all -time leading

00:25:43.130 --> 00:25:45.990
high school scorer? Yeah. And so, I mean, this

00:25:45.990 --> 00:25:49.410
is a guy that's got a history. He just hasn't

00:25:49.410 --> 00:25:51.730
done it at the pro level. He's had flashes at

00:25:51.730 --> 00:25:53.900
the pro level. but I don't think he's had the

00:25:53.900 --> 00:25:56.000
opportunity necessarily that he's had with us.

00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.759
I mean, he was more that second striker coming

00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.119
off the bench type player once he was in the

00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:04.059
MLS. I mean, he might've done it. Was he at Reno?

00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.259
Where was he at? Yeah, he did play with Reno.

00:26:06.619 --> 00:26:08.799
He had a little bit of success there. He was

00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:10.900
the RSL. He maybe had a little success and then

00:26:10.900 --> 00:26:13.740
LA, but nothing like he's been, which is funny

00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:15.640
because last year he was very frustrated. He

00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.240
wanted more minutes. Truly one of the nicest

00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.819
players I've ever met. But that's tough because

00:26:20.819 --> 00:26:23.440
you also got to remember, you know, you had Jordan

00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.460
and then Raul. So you got those two players competing

00:26:26.460 --> 00:26:29.880
for minutes. You know, like Danny at best is

00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:34.259
where Osase is right now without the injury.

00:26:34.420 --> 00:26:36.420
You know, so it's just tough for him to find

00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:39.940
those minutes. So it's great to see him. 47 goals

00:26:39.940 --> 00:26:46.710
in 88 appearances for UNLV. Jesus. So Danny,

00:26:46.869 --> 00:26:49.349
it's great to see him getting those. What's really

00:26:49.349 --> 00:26:54.109
interesting is you look at our midfield, and

00:26:54.109 --> 00:26:58.170
you've just got such great delivery from so many

00:26:58.170 --> 00:27:01.509
players. And not even midfield. Look at the backs.

00:27:01.849 --> 00:27:06.210
Look at Alex Roldan dropping crosses after crosses.

00:27:06.670 --> 00:27:10.029
Really, these last 10 games, I've been seeing

00:27:10.029 --> 00:27:13.769
beautiful service from Alex. Definitely want

00:27:13.769 --> 00:27:16.900
to highlight and point out. It's been really,

00:27:16.940 --> 00:27:19.160
really great to see. Matter of fact, in this

00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:24.500
last game against LA Galaxy, Alex Roldan, foot

00:27:24.500 --> 00:27:28.880
mob had him at an 8 .7. That is an insane score

00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.259
for a right back who did not get a goal. Yeah,

00:27:32.339 --> 00:27:36.119
and maybe his brother being there, not Christian,

00:27:36.339 --> 00:27:40.799
his other brother. Oh, not Hercules. It's the

00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:46.730
Battle of the Broldans. Yeah. Caesar. Yeah, Caesar.

00:27:47.890 --> 00:27:52.569
Yep. Who is their... I think he's the eldest.

00:27:53.630 --> 00:27:55.410
Yeah, he is the eldest, but I'm trying to think

00:27:55.410 --> 00:28:00.529
of what coach he is. I think he had a doctor

00:28:00.529 --> 00:28:03.470
of some sort, like an athletic trainer. Yeah.

00:28:05.529 --> 00:28:06.970
He's been there for a while. He's been there

00:28:06.970 --> 00:28:10.089
since 2018. Before that, he was at Colorado,

00:28:10.369 --> 00:28:13.490
Orange County, Chivas USA, and then... Started

00:28:13.490 --> 00:28:16.269
off with LA galaxy back in the 2015, 16 season.

00:28:16.549 --> 00:28:20.269
Yeah. He's the head athletic trainer. Yeah. So

00:28:20.269 --> 00:28:23.230
cool. It's cool. The battle of the Brawl Dans.

00:28:24.269 --> 00:28:27.210
Yeah. He's older than me. He is by far the oldest.

00:28:27.690 --> 00:28:31.170
Yeah. I mean, that's just, it's so good. I mean,

00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:35.589
I love having, I love having a team that you

00:28:35.589 --> 00:28:37.990
can just really, that are just good people that

00:28:37.990 --> 00:28:42.150
you're just so happy for their success. Uh, yeah.

00:28:42.250 --> 00:28:43.710
Do you want to get into the, do you want to get

00:28:43.710 --> 00:28:45.970
fully into the LA galaxy game? Do you want to

00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:49.230
talk a little bit more? Yeah, we'll take a break,

00:28:49.269 --> 00:28:52.230
but first let's, let's talk about, uh, league

00:28:52.230 --> 00:28:56.410
scores. Yeah. Tim Ford, um, who of course was

00:28:56.410 --> 00:28:59.029
the one who screwed the Vancouver in the playoffs

00:28:59.029 --> 00:29:01.450
when he ran into a player, uh, who was going

00:29:01.450 --> 00:29:03.210
to have a one -on -one chance on the keeper.

00:29:04.069 --> 00:29:10.150
Yeah. Uh, they, they were mad at him again. for

00:29:10.150 --> 00:29:12.549
their game against San Jose. At least I didn't

00:29:12.549 --> 00:29:14.410
watch the full game, obviously, but I watched

00:29:14.410 --> 00:29:16.450
the replay and I did not see anything that seemed

00:29:16.450 --> 00:29:18.990
suspect to me. Seemed like Vancouver fans crying,

00:29:19.190 --> 00:29:21.349
but he's now been reported to pro referees because

00:29:21.349 --> 00:29:23.970
his wife Instagram had pictures of him at an

00:29:23.970 --> 00:29:29.410
LAFC game in LAFC gear from like seven years,

00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:30.849
I don't know, seven years ago, whenever they

00:29:30.849 --> 00:29:33.890
started. So I don't know. I mean, it wasn't even

00:29:33.890 --> 00:29:36.369
an LAFC game, but I guess the argument can be

00:29:36.369 --> 00:29:39.950
they're above LAFC in the standings. but it seems

00:29:39.950 --> 00:29:41.609
like then you wouldn't be helping San Jose because

00:29:41.609 --> 00:29:43.369
they're right next to LAFC in the standings.

00:29:43.410 --> 00:29:47.009
So I don't know, but they reported those things

00:29:47.009 --> 00:29:49.309
to pro referees and apparently he's going to

00:29:49.309 --> 00:29:51.529
be under investigation, but I doubt anything

00:29:51.529 --> 00:29:53.730
comes from it from pictures from seven years

00:29:53.730 --> 00:29:58.289
ago or something. Yeah. I think there's plenty

00:29:58.289 --> 00:30:00.470
of reasons to be skeptical of referees. This

00:30:00.470 --> 00:30:03.829
just seems like sour grapes from Vancouver fans

00:30:03.829 --> 00:30:08.289
who just signed a 38 year old. past his prime

00:30:08.289 --> 00:30:10.809
player and seem to think it's a good thing yeah

00:30:10.809 --> 00:30:13.230
by the way just kind of going back full circle

00:30:13.230 --> 00:30:14.849
to what we were talking about earlier about how

00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:17.910
deep we are we we talked about jordan we talked

00:30:17.910 --> 00:30:22.829
about albert paul uh joe paulo ryan kent we jackson

00:30:22.829 --> 00:30:25.609
reagan the name we didn't even talk about throughout

00:30:25.609 --> 00:30:28.720
this whole thing stephen fry was it even in the,

00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:33.019
it's just, when we got to LA galaxy, but we can

00:30:33.019 --> 00:30:36.059
mention now he, he has cleared a concussion protocols.

00:30:36.259 --> 00:30:40.460
Yeah. So, I mean, it was just good to, you know,

00:30:40.500 --> 00:30:45.140
good to see that. Um, I don't think having spoken

00:30:45.140 --> 00:30:47.700
with stuff, haven't spoken with, with Andrew

00:30:47.700 --> 00:30:52.720
Thomas. Uh, I, I don't think there's whatever

00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.279
the decision of the club is. There's, there's

00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.470
no, um, controversy here. I think we're just

00:30:59.470 --> 00:31:05.670
blessed with options here. We know that League

00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:08.789
Cup is Andy's tournament. He will have it all

00:31:08.789 --> 00:31:11.430
the way through. I expect Steph to start against

00:31:11.430 --> 00:31:17.849
Minnesota. Assuming a week of training, I do

00:31:17.849 --> 00:31:21.089
expect that. I just think they won't rush him

00:31:21.089 --> 00:31:23.789
back, whatever it is. If he says he's ready,

00:31:23.930 --> 00:31:26.670
yes. uh if he's not then i think that he could

00:31:26.670 --> 00:31:28.589
sit another game just based on how well andy's

00:31:28.589 --> 00:31:32.529
been playing yeah is playing very well i mean

00:31:32.529 --> 00:31:35.670
keeping in mind that of the goals that have been

00:31:35.670 --> 00:31:38.410
scored against him how many have been penalties

00:31:38.410 --> 00:31:42.230
most penalties and others were just not stoppable

00:31:42.230 --> 00:31:47.130
yeah The thing about Steph is he's been training.

00:31:47.210 --> 00:31:49.529
Before the last two Leagues Cup matches, he was

00:31:49.529 --> 00:31:51.289
out there training before the match. Well, he

00:31:51.289 --> 00:31:53.990
was on the bench, although if for some reason

00:31:53.990 --> 00:31:56.190
Andy Thomas got hurt, I would have expected Jacob

00:31:56.190 --> 00:31:59.990
Castro to go in, only because in Leagues Cup,

00:32:00.150 --> 00:32:03.390
it is a mandate that you have to dress three

00:32:03.390 --> 00:32:05.750
goalkeepers. Which is why we had the young kid

00:32:05.750 --> 00:32:08.529
from the Academy up for those other matches.

00:32:08.710 --> 00:32:12.650
Correct, correct. Anyways, yeah, just some fun

00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:17.710
stuff to talk about. It's been, you know, it's

00:32:17.710 --> 00:32:22.029
great. It's great not only to have a, you know,

00:32:22.049 --> 00:32:26.109
a three -game stand in seven days with three

00:32:26.109 --> 00:32:29.029
wins all against Mexican teams in Leagues Cup,

00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:33.289
and then following that up with a 4 -0 road victory.

00:32:34.710 --> 00:32:39.099
These are, this is just a good time. So this

00:32:39.099 --> 00:32:42.240
is just a good time to be playing some really

00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.339
good attacking soccer. Yeah, for sure. All right,

00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.079
let's take that break, and we'll come back after.

00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:05.259
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00:33:05.259 --> 00:33:08.019
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00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:46.119
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00:34:59.579 --> 00:35:03.539
to the match. LA Galaxy. Frank McDonald mentioned

00:35:03.539 --> 00:35:08.250
that Snyder Brunel became the second Academy

00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:10.469
player from the Sounders to score in his MLS

00:35:10.469 --> 00:35:13.210
debut, joining Rothrock. He is the youngest debut

00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:17.170
scorer in MLS or any previous Sounders era. Pretty

00:35:17.170 --> 00:35:20.909
incredible. Wait, repeat that last part. Youngest

00:35:20.909 --> 00:35:26.550
debut scorer. Gotcha, yes. Or youngest. Yes.

00:35:27.090 --> 00:35:30.530
Obed scored at a younger age, but it was not

00:35:30.530 --> 00:35:34.610
on his debut. Right. And there has been non -MLS

00:35:34.610 --> 00:35:36.949
debut scorers, but none were as young as him.

00:35:37.409 --> 00:35:41.989
Yes. And then a big shout out to Christian Roldan.

00:35:42.570 --> 00:35:47.809
300 appearances with the Sounders. Wow. That's

00:35:47.809 --> 00:35:51.369
incredible. Which is incredible for a field player

00:35:51.369 --> 00:35:56.469
to hit 300. That's just amazing. Yeah. Definitely

00:35:56.469 --> 00:36:01.340
shows. his longevity and why he will be a Sounders

00:36:01.340 --> 00:36:11.340
legend forever. I just, I, I love that. He was

00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:14.360
acquired with like the 15th pick in the MLS draft

00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.920
that he was scheduled to be a top three pick

00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.380
for whatever reason. He kept falling and falling

00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:22.679
and falling. And that was one of Garth's first

00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:28.179
moves as a GM trading with his former team. Because

00:36:28.179 --> 00:36:31.679
it was RSL's pick that we traded in order to

00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.800
get Christian rolled on. And that was the infamous

00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:45.039
fist bump. Legendary Sounders moment. It's one

00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:48.679
of those that I think when you look back at the

00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.119
construction of this team over the years, it's

00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.619
something that changed the future of the team.

00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.380
I mean, it's like the Sonics trading Scottie

00:36:58.380 --> 00:37:02.019
Pippen. It went the opposite way for the Sonics,

00:37:02.019 --> 00:37:05.480
but yeah, they traded. I mean, I like Olden Paul

00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:09.900
in these. I know him. He's cool, but I still,

00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:12.500
Scottie, I don't think you can argue that Scottie

00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:18.760
Pippen wasn't a better NBA player. I mean, you're

00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.920
not wrong. Then it would have been Olden maybe

00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.199
playing with Michael Jordan in that TV show.

00:37:25.230 --> 00:37:29.289
The last dance. Wow. But that's not how it works.

00:37:29.329 --> 00:37:33.829
You know that. You know that. So here we are.

00:37:33.909 --> 00:37:39.489
We are, you know, we are back from League's Cup.

00:37:39.710 --> 00:37:43.730
We're on the road against LA Galaxy. LA Galaxy.

00:37:44.469 --> 00:37:47.769
Here's the thing about LA Galaxy. The first two

00:37:47.769 --> 00:37:51.409
letters of LA are the first two letters of lady.

00:37:52.969 --> 00:37:57.070
And the first letter of Galaxy is Gaga. And you

00:37:57.070 --> 00:37:59.869
were at Lady Gaga instead of on the last episode.

00:38:00.630 --> 00:38:03.510
What's going on here? I mean, I made the right

00:38:03.510 --> 00:38:07.030
decision. Of course you did. Only because Lady

00:38:07.030 --> 00:38:12.949
Gaga is just amazing live. If you have not gone

00:38:12.949 --> 00:38:16.429
on to see her live, just make that happen. It's

00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:20.349
so good. But unfortunately, just the way that

00:38:20.349 --> 00:38:23.800
our... recording timing was was working it was

00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.159
it was hey we got two out of three and that's

00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.239
kind of the mo we've been doing all season which

00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.000
is yeah trying to go okay if we can get two out

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:32.780
of the three of us to record great if we can

00:38:32.780 --> 00:38:34.960
get all three of us even better but we want to

00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.699
we'd prefer to not um go long periods of time

00:38:39.699 --> 00:38:42.199
without recording which has happened in the in

00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.719
in in the past and then that's kind of what we're

00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.550
trying to do so Was really jealous because I

00:38:48.550 --> 00:38:51.849
did listen a few hours after you recorded. I

00:38:51.849 --> 00:38:55.090
did listen while I was on the road the next morning

00:38:55.090 --> 00:39:01.269
at like two in the morning and was just kind

00:39:01.269 --> 00:39:05.050
of talking to myself while listening to the podcast

00:39:05.050 --> 00:39:07.889
and chiming in like, no, or like at this point

00:39:07.889 --> 00:39:11.309
or wanting to, wanting to jump in and, and, and,

00:39:11.309 --> 00:39:16.269
and, and make a point. And so, so good job on

00:39:16.269 --> 00:39:18.750
the episode. It's always good to hear you. It

00:39:18.750 --> 00:39:21.690
just made me really sad that I feel like we have

00:39:21.690 --> 00:39:25.050
not had enough episodes with all three of us

00:39:25.050 --> 00:39:27.110
this season. It's been just kind of a funky year

00:39:27.110 --> 00:39:30.929
with, with life getting in the way. Yeah, totally.

00:39:31.110 --> 00:39:34.769
Totally. And, you know, I think perhaps it'll

00:39:34.769 --> 00:39:40.610
change, but yeah, it's hard when, when some of

00:39:40.610 --> 00:39:44.059
us work it. at night and others are only available

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:47.400
at night. Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully that will,

00:39:47.460 --> 00:39:51.460
hopefully that will change soon. Yeah. Yeah.

00:39:51.940 --> 00:39:55.219
So, so lineups come out. LA has been dog shit,

00:39:55.300 --> 00:40:00.679
but they have had a strong leagues cup. Yeah.

00:40:00.860 --> 00:40:04.260
Looking good in those games. Pantsil and Gabriel

00:40:04.260 --> 00:40:10.139
Peck and Royce all look great. I mean, and they

00:40:10.139 --> 00:40:11.900
played the same three teams we did. They got

00:40:11.900 --> 00:40:15.920
a 4 -0 win against Santos. Though, keep in mind,

00:40:15.940 --> 00:40:20.340
Santos had two red cards to start or end the

00:40:20.340 --> 00:40:23.860
first half and then start the second half. So

00:40:23.860 --> 00:40:27.219
there is that. And at the time the red cards

00:40:27.219 --> 00:40:34.219
came, the score was 2 -0. So, you know, read

00:40:34.219 --> 00:40:37.360
into that what you want. You still got to play

00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.800
the games. That's how that works. They got a

00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.039
1 -1 draw against Cruz Azul, and then they beat

00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:48.820
Tijuana 5 -2. And so it's really interesting

00:40:48.820 --> 00:40:55.179
to see them get some good results for them and

00:40:55.179 --> 00:40:58.639
rightfully advance to the knockout rounds of

00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.699
League's Cup. So I was coming into this game

00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:06.059
fairly nervous. LA Galaxy have been a boogeyman

00:41:06.059 --> 00:41:11.000
of us. I expected them to win. Yeah. We played

00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:14.699
LA Galaxy more than any other team in our MLS

00:41:14.699 --> 00:41:20.500
history. By the way, so let's talk about that

00:41:20.500 --> 00:41:23.099
in the pregame. We had our prediction challenge.

00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.880
Oh, yeah. Real quick, we'll do the Tijuana game

00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.760
because we did not have that. In the Tijuana

00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.420
game, we had five people with the highest scores

00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:39.380
there. Eric, Daniel Rowe, we had Alex, we had

00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:42.059
Paul, and we had Bernie, Bernadette, my wife.

00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:47.019
So apparently the ladies in my family have been

00:41:47.019 --> 00:41:51.239
killing it lately between Roma and Bernie. But

00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:55.789
then against LA Galaxy, our winners. This was

00:41:55.789 --> 00:42:01.110
a trio of women in this one. So hats off to the

00:42:01.110 --> 00:42:05.190
ladies kicking all of our asses. Bernie, Roma,

00:42:05.469 --> 00:42:10.429
and Julie Z. So good job against LA Galaxy. All

00:42:10.429 --> 00:42:15.090
three of you tied for the win there. So good

00:42:15.090 --> 00:42:18.269
job there. Having a lot of fun with the prediction

00:42:18.269 --> 00:42:20.929
challenge. So I'm really glad that everyone's

00:42:20.929 --> 00:42:25.469
participating in that. um definitely and get

00:42:25.469 --> 00:42:29.309
your uh selection in before the match you had

00:42:29.309 --> 00:42:33.789
to remind aaron yeah yeah you know but but everyone's

00:42:33.789 --> 00:42:35.650
everyone's been pretty good about that it's been

00:42:35.650 --> 00:42:41.110
it's been really good um looking forward to doing

00:42:41.110 --> 00:42:44.440
you know the end of the season and giving some

00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.260
prizes out. I was thinking about that, by the

00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:48.739
way. Maybe at the end of the season, we have

00:42:48.739 --> 00:42:50.900
kind of an end of the season party, maybe a live

00:42:50.900 --> 00:42:54.860
show or something like that. That'd be fun. Might

00:42:54.860 --> 00:42:57.719
be a technically difficult thing to pull off,

00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.039
but maybe not. I got the equipment. It's just

00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.360
a matter of getting a room somewhere. Maybe a

00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:09.039
little something down at one of the partner bars

00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.039
that we attend at. Yeah. Sometimes public has

00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:14.599
them. I mean, there's one that's both the public

00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.739
and grill FC partner bar. So it works out. Yeah.

00:43:17.980 --> 00:43:20.079
Yeah. So maybe we can make that work. It's just

00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.559
something to think about for the future. With

00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:27.519
that in mind, the lineups come out and, and the

00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:32.460
Sounders Sounders starting 11 is, is kind of

00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:36.420
a little bit of a surprise, not seeing Jackson

00:43:36.420 --> 00:43:41.079
Reagan in the starting 11. I wasn't sure if we'd

00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.579
see Stephen Fry or not, but a little bit of a

00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:46.820
surprise to not see him. I mean, I hadn't heard

00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:49.820
that he cleared. I had heard no discussion throughout

00:43:49.820 --> 00:43:51.400
the week that he had cleared concussion protocol,

00:43:51.619 --> 00:43:53.659
so I did not expect to even see him on the bench.

00:43:53.699 --> 00:43:58.960
I was surprised he was there. Okay. I had heard

00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.019
some interviews with Brian where he had cleared,

00:44:02.219 --> 00:44:06.119
so maybe I didn't know if how much of that was

00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:15.239
widespread knowledge. Yeah, so liking our lineup.

00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:19.239
And then the game kicks off. And I think right

00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.699
from the get -go with having Alan Chapman as

00:44:22.699 --> 00:44:25.039
a center ref got me a little nervous because

00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.960
Alan has kind of a history of letting physical

00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:33.300
play go. However, the Sounders do perform better

00:44:33.300 --> 00:44:35.619
under him than LA Galaxy does. He's particularly

00:44:35.619 --> 00:44:39.159
bad for LA Galaxy. Well, that's kind of where

00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.519
the script flipped because normally a rep like

00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:53.000
him or who's the Canadian? I know. I know who

00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.199
you're talking about. We had him just a few games

00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:01.119
ago. Yep. Oh, my goodness. My brain. I'm not.

00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:05.630
Yeah. But yes. But anyways. Between the two of

00:45:05.630 --> 00:45:08.610
them, I feel like when we get drawn with them,

00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:10.389
the games end up becoming a little physical.

00:45:15.110 --> 00:45:19.789
Drew Fisher. Thank you. Drew Fisher was who I

00:45:19.789 --> 00:45:22.269
was thinking of. I just feel like when we get

00:45:22.269 --> 00:45:26.170
drawn with them, it's not always a good thing

00:45:26.170 --> 00:45:28.349
that teams get to be a little more physical with

00:45:28.349 --> 00:45:32.400
our players. he actually had been good for a

00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.260
galaxy at home they have nine wins all time and

00:45:35.260 --> 00:45:38.360
eight of them are at home under chapman versus

00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.840
the sounders 13 wins all time four away but we

00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:43.500
only have one drawn four losses but overall we've

00:45:43.500 --> 00:45:47.559
we've been under him quite a bit more uh and

00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:49.860
we 13 wins five draws and seven losses all time

00:45:49.860 --> 00:45:52.800
to their nine five and eleven but what was really

00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.739
interesting about this especially the first 15

00:45:54.739 --> 00:45:58.539
20 minutes of the game is i thought that there

00:45:58.539 --> 00:46:02.449
were a number of non -calls That were kind of

00:46:02.449 --> 00:46:06.170
going against the Galaxy. I thought there were

00:46:06.170 --> 00:46:09.929
some calls that I've seen get called as fouls.

00:46:09.929 --> 00:46:14.909
And the Sounders bodying up against a LA Galaxy

00:46:14.909 --> 00:46:19.670
player. And Alan Chapman just saying, play on.

00:46:19.969 --> 00:46:22.949
So I was kind of pleasantly surprised. But I

00:46:22.949 --> 00:46:28.610
wasn't going to be upset if they called those

00:46:28.610 --> 00:46:31.710
fouls. Because they looked... Like they could

00:46:31.710 --> 00:46:36.070
have been to me. Um, yeah. Victory was a fourth

00:46:36.070 --> 00:46:38.769
ref too. I mean, Corey Rockwell and Felicia Mars

00:46:38.769 --> 00:46:40.469
call. I don't know them, but apparently they

00:46:40.469 --> 00:46:41.849
have a lot. I mean, they were talking about on

00:46:41.849 --> 00:46:45.210
the Apple broadcast, how many games of, uh, with

00:46:45.210 --> 00:46:48.989
Eunice Mark. Catchy at the, the VAR and just

00:46:48.989 --> 00:46:52.349
how much talent referee talent there was actually

00:46:52.349 --> 00:46:57.690
on our game, which was interesting. I wonder

00:46:57.690 --> 00:47:00.880
how much of that is Sunday night soccer. I'm

00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.619
curious how much goes into the referee assignments.

00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:05.099
That's how it works in the NFL, right? Like,

00:47:05.099 --> 00:47:08.599
they put the big refs on the big games. Yeah.

00:47:09.179 --> 00:47:11.679
So with that in mind, I mean, right from the

00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.480
get -go, it certainly looked like the Sounders

00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.280
came to play. You know my favorite thing is our

00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.539
little momentum meter, and the Sounders were

00:47:22.539 --> 00:47:25.460
definitely just dominating in that first half

00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:31.079
for sure. There's a lot of green. But more interesting

00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.940
to me is that both teams were going up and down.

00:47:35.059 --> 00:47:37.559
I felt like there was a very open game, and I

00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.719
liked seeing that just from a soccer standpoint.

00:47:44.829 --> 00:47:47.369
You have to get the talent on the field. Right.

00:47:47.630 --> 00:47:50.510
And I definitely trust that. There was no hack

00:47:50.510 --> 00:47:55.110
-a -shack. And I wonder if this is the result

00:47:55.110 --> 00:47:57.090
of Peter Vermees no longer being in the league

00:47:57.090 --> 00:48:01.849
and on the committee. Competition committee.

00:48:02.190 --> 00:48:04.869
Competition committee where the league is realizing

00:48:04.869 --> 00:48:06.909
if you want to have the kind of talent they want,

00:48:07.050 --> 00:48:10.369
you can't have players out there just thugging

00:48:10.369 --> 00:48:14.889
up and fouling players Peter Vermees style. Who

00:48:14.889 --> 00:48:16.750
was the San Jose? Not Frankie Allup. Who was

00:48:16.750 --> 00:48:20.710
the other one? No, because then he went to Houston.

00:48:21.349 --> 00:48:24.610
Dom Kinnear. Dom Kinnear, which I actually don't

00:48:24.610 --> 00:48:28.369
mind Dom Kinnear as much. But if you have people

00:48:28.369 --> 00:48:30.590
doing that, you're not going to see the technical

00:48:30.590 --> 00:48:32.630
greatness that is starting to come to this league

00:48:32.630 --> 00:48:35.230
with the rise of South American players coming

00:48:35.230 --> 00:48:39.070
in. No, and it's great to see coaches like Wilford

00:48:39.070 --> 00:48:46.500
Nancy. and honestly you know i got respect for

00:48:46.500 --> 00:48:51.679
greg vandy you know i think he he um i mean i'm

00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.320
glad we didn't sign our coach to a multi -year

00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.039
extension in the middle of a record -breaking

00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:05.739
losing streak but hey you la galaxy yeah you

00:49:05.739 --> 00:49:10.679
know uh will forever be funny to me uh speaking

00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:13.659
of coaches and losing streaks um kind of some

00:49:13.659 --> 00:49:15.039
scuttlebutt that we didn't really talk about

00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.840
uh did you happen to catch that gonzalo pineda

00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:24.619
stepped down as coach no yeah he he stepped down

00:49:24.619 --> 00:49:29.360
he stepped down as the uh coach of atlas uh after

00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:33.219
24 matches and i think they had just gone through

00:49:33.219 --> 00:49:38.619
like five straight defeats and so yeah five straight

00:49:38.619 --> 00:49:43.039
defeats all competitions yeah That's too bad.

00:49:43.139 --> 00:49:46.239
I always want to see him, but maybe he comes

00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.940
back to us as an assistant coach. This is a question

00:49:49.940 --> 00:49:54.360
that I have for you. There are some people who

00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.300
maybe aren't cut out to be head coaches, but

00:49:58.300 --> 00:50:00.940
they're really talented people. Look at Precky,

00:50:01.099 --> 00:50:04.579
for example. Precky, the only two -time MLS MVP,

00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:11.039
one coach of the year. has steadily been an assistant

00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:14.719
coach. I think he kind of found his niche. Dom

00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.800
Kinnear, he settled into an assistant coaching

00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:21.440
role for a while. He had some success as a head

00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.159
coach. And Precky had success as a USL level,

00:50:25.179 --> 00:50:28.840
right? One coach of the year as well. But that's

00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.699
what I'm saying. But then he also had some really

00:50:30.699 --> 00:50:33.659
not so successful stuff. So I guess that makes

00:50:33.659 --> 00:50:39.400
me wonder. I think the... The discourse around

00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.559
Gonzo was always, oh, man, can't wait for him

00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.840
to be the next in line when when Brian Schmetzer

00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.059
retires, you know, and like we loved Gonzo Pineda

00:50:49.059 --> 00:50:51.699
here in Seattle. And I still do love Gonzo Pineda.

00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:56.280
But the question was. And this kind of comes

00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.719
into that that perception thing where it felt

00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.099
like the discourse was around giving Gonzo a

00:51:04.099 --> 00:51:06.840
lot of credit for certain aspects of the Sounders

00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.460
attack. especially in that 2019 2020 years when

00:51:11.460 --> 00:51:16.900
our attack was so good um but then when he left

00:51:16.900 --> 00:51:19.820
there was a question of oh well our attack isn't

00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:22.619
as good anymore you know as nico and raul were

00:51:22.619 --> 00:51:25.179
starting to hit the downturns of their their

00:51:25.179 --> 00:51:30.960
their careers and and so i guess it's just interesting

00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:33.219
looking at it from a revisionist point of point

00:51:33.219 --> 00:51:38.409
of view is It makes me question how much do we

00:51:38.409 --> 00:51:44.010
really know as us on commentary? How much do

00:51:44.010 --> 00:51:47.489
we really, really know? And I just want to acknowledge

00:51:47.489 --> 00:51:50.309
that. See, I'm not going to say that because

00:51:50.309 --> 00:51:55.510
I spent an entire season of Sounders 2 sitting

00:51:55.510 --> 00:51:59.210
next to Brian and Pineda listening to them. They're

00:51:59.210 --> 00:52:01.969
running commentary on every single game. And

00:52:01.969 --> 00:52:07.349
he's got a brilliant soccer mind. Brian trusted

00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:10.730
him and would listen to him. And that's something

00:52:10.730 --> 00:52:15.530
that, not that he doesn't trust Freddy Juarez,

00:52:15.769 --> 00:52:18.110
because obviously they make big changes at halftime,

00:52:18.110 --> 00:52:23.670
but I think Gonzalo had a greater impact in deciding

00:52:23.670 --> 00:52:26.750
who was going to start games and maybe on subbing,

00:52:26.829 --> 00:52:30.889
which I think is the two weak points for Schmetzer.

00:52:32.219 --> 00:52:34.980
So that's why I think I like him is I think he

00:52:34.980 --> 00:52:39.519
keeps Schmetzer, which I mean, I think it's true

00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:41.000
with anyone. It doesn't matter how good you are

00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:42.579
at something. You need other people's voices.

00:52:42.699 --> 00:52:45.639
And he was trained by Schmetzer. He was, his

00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.480
entire coaching career is learning under Schmetzer.

00:52:49.019 --> 00:52:52.179
Yeah. So I think he understands Schmetzer as

00:52:52.179 --> 00:52:53.860
well. Schmetzer understands Schmetzer. So he

00:52:53.860 --> 00:52:56.460
can sit there and give input in a way that other

00:52:56.460 --> 00:52:59.079
players can't, other coaches, excuse me, can't.

00:52:59.869 --> 00:53:03.369
And by the way, just for context, three of those

00:53:03.369 --> 00:53:07.429
five, the League's Cup matches for Atlas, well,

00:53:07.510 --> 00:53:09.530
going into League's Cup, they lost to Monterey.

00:53:09.570 --> 00:53:11.849
That's a lot of people lose to Monterey, so that's

00:53:11.849 --> 00:53:14.989
no big deal. They lost to Inter -Miami, they

00:53:14.989 --> 00:53:17.289
lost to Orlando, and they lost to Atlanta United.

00:53:18.409 --> 00:53:27.730
And so I know, but at the same time, I don't

00:53:27.730 --> 00:53:33.010
know. Yeah, I wonder if it's kind of a sum of

00:53:33.010 --> 00:53:38.250
all the parts there where maybe they just weren't

00:53:38.250 --> 00:53:41.469
as good because they're sitting in 12th in the

00:53:41.469 --> 00:53:44.510
Apertura, but they're only four games into the

00:53:44.510 --> 00:53:48.710
season. I mean, all time, five wins, seven draws,

00:53:48.789 --> 00:53:51.230
12 losses for Atlas over his whole career. Yeah,

00:53:51.230 --> 00:53:55.829
but they also were 14th out of 18 teams in the

00:53:55.829 --> 00:53:59.260
Klausura. uh so i just think that i just think

00:53:59.260 --> 00:54:02.840
that maybe they they were not getting the uh

00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.739
results that they they were hoping for i think

00:54:06.739 --> 00:54:08.880
so um but that's gotta hurt he still lives in

00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:11.219
the atlanta area apparently with his family so

00:54:11.219 --> 00:54:14.719
to go into atlanta and lose that's rough yeah

00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:19.400
that's too bad yeah and there's plenty of other

00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.539
chances out there um but he he was not successful

00:54:22.539 --> 00:54:26.199
atlanta or atlas which makes me go Maybe he's

00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.940
not meant to be a head coach in terms of managing

00:54:28.940 --> 00:54:33.460
personalities, personalities, the way that a

00:54:33.460 --> 00:54:36.480
head coach has to. Yeah. I mean, that's one thing

00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:42.619
that, you know, watching Brian, Brian was famously

00:54:42.619 --> 00:54:47.079
fiery as an assistant coach under Ziggy Schmidt.

00:54:47.300 --> 00:54:52.449
His role under Ziggy is different. in the way

00:54:52.449 --> 00:54:55.630
he interacts with players as as what it appears

00:54:55.630 --> 00:55:00.090
it is as a head coach um but it's just interesting

00:55:00.090 --> 00:55:02.889
i mean i think you were there when i sat down

00:55:02.889 --> 00:55:05.369
and talked to brian i mean i specifically asked

00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:07.630
him what his style is to talk to players because

00:55:07.630 --> 00:55:13.179
siggy yelled and schmidt said You do it based

00:55:13.179 --> 00:55:14.800
on the player. There's players you don't need

00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.099
to say anything. Ozzy, he literally said, Ozzy,

00:55:17.099 --> 00:55:18.719
I literally just slipped the stats across the

00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:22.119
table. Just slide the stats across the table.

00:55:22.420 --> 00:55:25.760
And Ozzy's like, oh, yep, yep, okay. Yeah. I

00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:28.579
mean, and that's, I mean, whereas obviously at

00:55:28.579 --> 00:55:31.500
the end, I love Ziggy to death, but he lost the

00:55:31.500 --> 00:55:37.239
locker room, especially Dempsey. And I think

00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:40.579
there, I think, and it wasn't, it was just that

00:55:40.579 --> 00:55:43.639
as he, How do I word this? Young people don't

00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.719
like to get yelled at. That wasn't a thing that

00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.039
worked anymore, I think. In the game, just passing

00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.059
them by like that, that's just an age thing.

00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:52.280
Just like I listen to some of the music. It's

00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:53.860
interesting to see what Bruce Arena does. Yeah,

00:55:53.860 --> 00:55:58.619
it's interesting to see Bruce Arena adjusting

00:55:58.619 --> 00:56:02.280
and working. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, San

00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:03.840
Jose's starting to pick it up now, though, so

00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:08.179
something's working. Yes and no, because there's

00:56:08.179 --> 00:56:11.889
a reason why. every time bruce changes teams

00:56:11.889 --> 00:56:14.829
you know that within the next transfer window

00:56:14.829 --> 00:56:17.010
certain players are going to get signed to that

00:56:17.010 --> 00:56:22.130
team he's got his guys um there's a reason where

00:56:22.130 --> 00:56:24.590
and and that's just natural i mean i and and

00:56:24.590 --> 00:56:28.070
again i am not comparing myself to these coaches

00:56:28.070 --> 00:56:32.789
but public we redraft every season i was a coach

00:56:32.789 --> 00:56:37.230
for 14 seasons um before before stepping down

00:56:37.230 --> 00:56:40.289
with my admin role as a as a director of the

00:56:40.289 --> 00:56:43.889
league i realized that maybe coaching maybe just

00:56:43.889 --> 00:56:47.769
give give other people a chance to do that uh

00:56:47.769 --> 00:56:52.110
there were constantly players that were my my

00:56:52.110 --> 00:56:54.409
players players that i would constantly draft

00:56:54.409 --> 00:56:57.949
over and over and over again that's just just

00:56:57.949 --> 00:57:01.489
kind of natural that's just kind of natural no

00:57:01.489 --> 00:57:04.769
matter whether it's um you know high level uh

00:57:04.769 --> 00:57:08.150
high level professional soccer or low level rec

00:57:08.150 --> 00:57:11.469
league stuff and by low level i mean very very

00:57:11.469 --> 00:57:13.489
low level i mean ziggy did it he brought in brad

00:57:13.489 --> 00:57:17.230
evans he brought later brought in uh chad marshall

00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:22.030
um it happens you have players that you know

00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:25.980
you can trust on and off the field. And that

00:57:25.980 --> 00:57:28.139
I think work - I mean, he brought in a whole

00:57:28.139 --> 00:57:31.280
bunch of LA Galaxy people when our expansion

00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.659
year. I mean, I do the same thing teaching. I

00:57:34.659 --> 00:57:37.480
know there's students I can call on that will

00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:39.980
lead the conversation in a way that's going to

00:57:39.980 --> 00:57:42.699
make other people respond and have a good discussion.

00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:47.119
I know how to massage my classroom and it's the

00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:48.539
same thing, right? You're just doing it in the

00:57:48.539 --> 00:57:51.429
locker room. Cameron, don't massage your students.

00:57:51.469 --> 00:57:53.849
That's inappropriate. No, not literal, figurative.

00:57:55.329 --> 00:57:58.809
Come on. Okay, okay, okay. Just checking, just

00:57:58.809 --> 00:58:01.949
checking. Looking out for you. Too many people

00:58:01.949 --> 00:58:05.349
getting laid off right now. Yeah, I got a lot

00:58:05.349 --> 00:58:07.369
of teaching coming up, so I got to get on it.

00:58:08.110 --> 00:58:13.809
All right. But, yeah, I mean, I think this is

00:58:13.809 --> 00:58:17.889
a team we've seen that has, I mean, come on,

00:58:17.889 --> 00:58:22.840
Tommy Dutra. Precky, we are blessed with an amazing

00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:26.239
coaching staff. Yeah. I mean, even Freddy Juarez,

00:58:26.340 --> 00:58:30.340
he left a head coaching gig to take on an assistant

00:58:30.340 --> 00:58:34.960
coaching role. That doesn't happen. That just

00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:39.059
doesn't happen. So back to the game. So we're

00:58:39.059 --> 00:58:43.059
kind of a little side note there. Actually, before

00:58:43.059 --> 00:58:44.579
we go back to the game, I'll just fast forward

00:58:44.579 --> 00:58:48.099
to the end of the game. Christian Ramirez. la

00:58:48.099 --> 00:58:52.340
galaxy player long time you know that uh was

00:58:52.340 --> 00:58:55.420
shown on tv having a nice extended conversation

00:58:55.420 --> 00:58:57.840
with precky after the game and i would love to

00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.340
be a prop fly on the wall to hear what that conversation

00:59:00.340 --> 00:59:02.280
was like i didn't see that that's interesting

00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.079
yeah yeah i thought that i i wondered how much

00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:07.239
of that was uh what kind of relationship they've

00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:09.539
had in the past or or how much of that is respect

00:59:09.539 --> 00:59:14.559
from uh you know from uh American soccer player

00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.739
like Christian Ramirez wanting to maybe pick

00:59:17.739 --> 00:59:19.659
the brain or just because they were definitely

00:59:19.659 --> 00:59:22.239
having an engaging conversation that was it was

00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.159
it was really fun to see I love I love those

00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:28.099
little moments you know um yeah I just couldn't

00:59:28.099 --> 00:59:29.920
figure out what the connection was between the

00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:33.719
two of them and so so it made me made me wonder

00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:38.619
yeah it's one of those things where um I mean

00:59:38.619 --> 00:59:40.519
this is different but I think about like I was

00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:43.860
reading Giroud had has as many goals in three

00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:45.940
games with Lille as he had the entire time at

00:59:45.940 --> 00:59:49.619
LAFC. And I feel like when you have a good coaching

00:59:49.619 --> 00:59:52.179
staff who knows how to work with players and

00:59:52.179 --> 00:59:54.340
knows how to make them better, other players

00:59:54.340 --> 00:59:55.719
are going to want to work with you. And that's

00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:57.860
something that LAFC didn't have. And you're looking

00:59:57.860 --> 00:59:59.900
at Giroud who was used wrong, suddenly succeed.

01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:02.400
So maybe Ramirez, not that he wants to come here,

01:00:02.500 --> 01:00:06.320
but if you know each other or you, you have,

01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.219
I mean, I think that's the kind of coaching staff

01:00:08.219 --> 01:00:12.409
we have where they will sit down. I heard. I

01:00:12.409 --> 01:00:14.969
interviewed the other day about Ziggy coming

01:00:14.969 --> 01:00:17.630
into a coaching clinic. I wish I remembered where

01:00:17.630 --> 01:00:20.610
I heard this. And they expected, oh yeah, I heard

01:00:20.610 --> 01:00:23.150
it in a meeting I was in. This is from a former

01:00:23.150 --> 01:00:27.610
player who coached locally. I think he was an

01:00:27.610 --> 01:00:30.010
NASL or a USL player. And they expected Ziggy

01:00:30.010 --> 01:00:32.010
to come just say a few things and leave. And

01:00:32.010 --> 01:00:33.730
he ended up hanging out with them for hours and

01:00:33.730 --> 01:00:37.309
gave them all advice. And like Seattle, we've

01:00:37.309 --> 01:00:39.989
been very lucky with a coaching staff that is

01:00:39.989 --> 01:00:44.059
there to teach. and make everyone around them

01:00:44.059 --> 01:00:53.860
better. Yeah. So back to the game now for real.

01:00:55.960 --> 01:01:02.300
25 minutes in, we get a great pass from De La

01:01:02.300 --> 01:01:08.199
Vega into Rothrock, and what ends up going down

01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:11.809
as an own goal, which... I'd have to take a closer

01:01:11.809 --> 01:01:14.510
look at the replay. I don't know how much I agree

01:01:14.510 --> 01:01:16.750
with that. It felt like a Paul Rothrock goal

01:01:16.750 --> 01:01:23.030
to me, but it comes down to their own goal, and

01:01:23.030 --> 01:01:25.309
Sounders are off to the ground running. They're

01:01:25.309 --> 01:01:28.650
up 1 -0. Second straight game, Rothrock doesn't

01:01:28.650 --> 01:01:32.530
get his kudos. I mean, I'm giving him a kudos.

01:01:32.550 --> 01:01:34.730
He's giving his kudos. He doesn't get the stat.

01:01:34.909 --> 01:01:38.599
I know. And for players like him where that could

01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:40.739
be bonuses on the line, you know, that matters,

01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:44.599
you know, like that matters. And Pedro assists

01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:48.820
for what was an amazing ball that no one, I mean,

01:01:48.820 --> 01:01:50.699
it was in a position where the goalie can't get

01:01:50.699 --> 01:01:53.800
to it. That's the perfect ball every time. Yeah.

01:01:54.059 --> 01:01:57.440
Yeah. And so I thought it was really good, really

01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.420
good work there. 12 minutes later, Danny Mussofsky

01:02:01.420 --> 01:02:05.440
gets his first goal of the game. Ends up with

01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.440
two goals. And same thing. I just thought that

01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:11.340
the Sounders were just looking really, really

01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:16.559
good. Good first half. What were your takeaways

01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.059
on the first half? Yeah, I mean, I was a little

01:02:21.059 --> 01:02:22.960
frustrated with our play before that first goal,

01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.300
but that goal was so early. It just felt like

01:02:25.300 --> 01:02:27.960
we were a little sloppy, and Obed kept pushing

01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.239
up even after that goal and felt like it was

01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:32.840
a little bit of a rough game for him for a minute.

01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:35.940
And I'm not sure if it because he was doing things

01:02:35.940 --> 01:02:38.659
he doesn't typically do, which I'm actually in

01:02:38.659 --> 01:02:40.440
favor of. He usually pushed up traditionally,

01:02:40.659 --> 01:02:43.739
but he hadn't been. But everything seemed to

01:02:43.739 --> 01:02:47.480
change once that goal went in. And we saw some

01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:53.980
it felt like. After a slower start, that goal

01:02:53.980 --> 01:02:57.420
opened it up in a way that allowed for what could

01:02:57.420 --> 01:02:59.280
have been. I mean, I don't I think if they don't

01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:03.400
blow the halftime whistle, we score again. Yeah,

01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:08.679
I mean, he blew it on a corner, which is interesting.

01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:13.539
But yeah, so I think, I mean, Obed was dispossessed

01:03:13.539 --> 01:03:15.380
a couple times. That was a little unfortunate.

01:03:15.739 --> 01:03:21.159
I feel like there's been some criticism, sustained

01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:25.280
criticism of Obed and giveaways. I'm not entirely

01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:30.719
sure I feel that. I'm not. I don't. He's been

01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:33.590
solid since the Club World Cup. Like since that

01:03:33.590 --> 01:03:37.010
started to me, this was him pushing forward in

01:03:37.010 --> 01:03:38.849
a way that he hasn't been in any of the other

01:03:38.849 --> 01:03:40.670
matches. And yeah, there were giveaways, but

01:03:40.670 --> 01:03:43.269
that's what happens when you push forward. The

01:03:43.269 --> 01:03:47.289
only one that really got me was his first, the

01:03:47.289 --> 01:03:50.389
first one where if he passes it to Jesus, he's,

01:03:50.389 --> 01:03:52.590
he's free on goal wide open and he didn't for

01:03:52.590 --> 01:03:55.809
some reason. Yeah. There were a couple of moments

01:03:55.809 --> 01:03:59.519
where. Yeah, I do think that there was a little

01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:01.940
bit of that where you saw some opportunities

01:04:01.940 --> 01:04:05.940
that were not taken advantage of, held onto a

01:04:05.940 --> 01:04:11.639
ball a step too long, missed one pass that maybe

01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:15.780
you chose the wrong pass decision. But as a whole,

01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:17.679
he was getting himself in the position to have

01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:20.880
that opportunity, which is not something we always

01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.550
see from a center defensive mid. Yeah, because

01:04:23.550 --> 01:04:26.230
no player is going to get that right every time.

01:04:26.349 --> 01:04:29.630
So I think getting the opportunity more often

01:04:29.630 --> 01:04:32.389
than not is going to be the way to go for sure.

01:04:33.030 --> 01:04:36.250
Yeah, totally. Because the reality is just a

01:04:36.250 --> 01:04:40.630
few minutes later, Obed, in the 33rd minute,

01:04:40.730 --> 01:04:44.849
Obed makes a really nice pass over to De La Vega,

01:04:45.010 --> 01:04:48.750
who's got the ball at the top of the box all

01:04:48.750 --> 01:04:54.840
alone. Just tries to one -time it. It just kind

01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:58.780
of comes off as a flub. De La Vega just didn't

01:04:58.780 --> 01:05:01.920
have a great shot there, but Obed springs him

01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:06.519
into this beautiful opportunity. So I think Obed

01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:09.699
is... I think the team and Obed are making some

01:05:09.699 --> 01:05:13.090
really smart plays. So, I mean, we're... you

01:05:13.090 --> 01:05:15.369
know we're 37 minutes into the game sounders

01:05:15.369 --> 01:05:18.429
are having an eight to two shot advantage against

01:05:18.429 --> 01:05:21.449
la galaxy they're just they're just rolling and

01:05:21.449 --> 01:05:25.989
they're up one nothing when that's when um that's

01:05:25.989 --> 01:05:30.389
when danny gets played a pass into the box he

01:05:30.389 --> 01:05:33.150
takes the shot it gets saved and he immediately

01:05:33.150 --> 01:05:36.949
follows up his goal his shot with a with a tapping

01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:40.219
Um, but that's Rothrock with the really nice

01:05:40.219 --> 01:05:44.699
pass to, to play him on side. And, uh, and there

01:05:44.699 --> 01:05:46.960
we go. We just were up to nothing at that point.

01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.440
And it was great. Cause we've seen that a lot

01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:53.940
from Danny where he doesn't make the best decisions

01:05:53.940 --> 01:05:58.239
in terms of shot, but that shot itself, although

01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:01.519
saved. was shot in a way that the goalie had

01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:03.679
no choice but to reach out and he was never going

01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.360
to get a clean save on it it had to ricochet

01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:09.219
yeah unless yeah he he had no chance to catch

01:06:09.219 --> 01:06:12.820
it so he either had to parry it he had to parry

01:06:12.820 --> 01:06:15.320
it in a direction and he just made the wrong

01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:17.940
decision there yeah but but what i liked about

01:06:17.940 --> 01:06:22.679
that is you saw the ball come on to danny's foot

01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:26.210
and he swung and one -timed it on that shot like

01:06:26.210 --> 01:06:28.630
it it was it was in stride like that's how good

01:06:28.630 --> 01:06:32.530
that pass was oh yeah beautiful pass i mean he

01:06:32.530 --> 01:06:37.210
breaks uh he breaks three defenders uh and danny

01:06:37.210 --> 01:06:41.050
danny times the run beautifully and and yeah

01:06:41.050 --> 01:06:44.389
no it's just really really well -weighted pass

01:06:44.389 --> 01:06:48.190
that that curls around the defenders and falls

01:06:48.190 --> 01:06:52.860
right into a good spot for danny loved it Just

01:06:52.860 --> 01:06:57.000
really, really good stuff there. And at that

01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:01.159
point, both the goalie and the center defender

01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:04.460
for LA Galaxy are surrender co -brewing. And

01:07:04.460 --> 01:07:06.260
you're just watching the body language of LA

01:07:06.260 --> 01:07:09.219
Galaxy. You're hearing the boo birds from LA

01:07:09.219 --> 01:07:13.539
Galaxy supporters. It's just everyone is like,

01:07:13.780 --> 01:07:21.500
ah, shit, here we go again. We suck. As an away

01:07:21.500 --> 01:07:26.260
team, you love to see it. Yeah, yeah. It was,

01:07:26.420 --> 01:07:31.800
I mean, I was at that point 2 -0. I was still

01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:35.920
like, it's not over, considering how many goals

01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:37.860
we've given up this season and how dangerous

01:07:37.860 --> 01:07:41.699
their front three are. Although Nacia Mento,

01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:44.019
I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right. I

01:07:44.019 --> 01:07:46.019
mean, he had, they talked about it at halftime.

01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:49.159
He was not getting touches. We successfully shut

01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:52.659
him down in a way that it didn't allow the wings

01:07:52.659 --> 01:07:55.280
to be able to get him the ball and, or vice versa

01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:57.619
that made them far more dangerous. You saw a

01:07:57.619 --> 01:08:00.780
paint still go up the left a few times and that

01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:02.800
we, you saw him do the same things in the lease

01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.219
cup where he scored on these plays, but our defenders

01:08:05.219 --> 01:08:08.099
were able to successfully just force them outside

01:08:08.099 --> 01:08:10.400
a little bit. to an angle where he just couldn't

01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.280
get that shot on goal. He was doing the exact

01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.939
same stuff. Yeah, to your point, Nascimento had

01:08:16.939 --> 01:08:19.380
the least amount of touches of any outfielder

01:08:19.380 --> 01:08:22.359
player to play 90 minutes. He had 18 touches

01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:30.979
in 90 minutes. Wow. Just talk about just a quiet

01:08:30.979 --> 01:08:33.600
game. I mean, he's a 21 -year -old. He's going

01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:37.760
to learn. you gotta learn how in games like this

01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:40.939
how to how to make an impact on the game and

01:08:40.939 --> 01:08:42.840
i just i just think the sounders did everything

01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:46.260
right there um i mean i mean shit we're going

01:08:46.260 --> 01:08:47.680
to talk about this once we start getting into

01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:49.439
the second half and now it's kind of a good transition

01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:52.640
point to get to the second half but in the end

01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:57.060
we do use all five subs we use four of the five

01:08:57.060 --> 01:09:00.880
by the 73rd minute, which is awesome. But all

01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:03.600
five subs, I would say none of them were defensive

01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:07.720
subs. We sub on Danny Leyva, Kalana Kosi -Rienzi

01:09:07.720 --> 01:09:11.140
for Pedro, Snyder Brunel for Jesus, Osase de

01:09:11.140 --> 01:09:13.579
Rosario for Danny, and Georgie Menungo for Paul

01:09:13.579 --> 01:09:19.119
Rothrock. So we gave, you know, LA Galaxy did

01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:25.489
not give our defense any... you know, challenge

01:09:25.489 --> 01:09:33.829
really. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, although I like,

01:09:33.850 --> 01:09:39.109
I like a player like KKR coming in because he

01:09:39.109 --> 01:09:42.729
is defensive. He's a. Offensive minded defender.

01:09:43.010 --> 01:09:45.010
I'll put it that way. So even though you're putting

01:09:45.010 --> 01:09:47.050
him in at the wing, he has the ability to drop

01:09:47.050 --> 01:09:49.310
back and add a little more pressure defensively,

01:09:49.310 --> 01:09:51.270
especially. Would you call it like a Joven Jones

01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:54.430
type of role? Like the modern Jover Jones role

01:09:54.430 --> 01:09:57.289
where, or even, even Brad Smith, where sometimes

01:09:57.289 --> 01:10:00.510
he'd come up on the wing. Yeah. And, and, and

01:10:00.510 --> 01:10:03.909
not. Yeah. And we see, we see RBW do that as

01:10:03.909 --> 01:10:05.829
well. I mean, we've seen other players do that,

01:10:05.890 --> 01:10:08.789
but that's, that's something that, that. schmetzer

01:10:08.789 --> 01:10:10.930
loves the club does that's yeah that that that

01:10:10.930 --> 01:10:14.989
is a club trait for sure a schmetzer trait i

01:10:14.989 --> 01:10:20.270
think you're right um so second half we're up

01:10:20.270 --> 01:10:25.510
to nothing to start and we are um facing a little

01:10:25.510 --> 01:10:27.829
bit of pressure to start i think la galaxy came

01:10:27.829 --> 01:10:30.569
out the second half got a got nasia mente got

01:10:30.569 --> 01:10:33.170
his one really good shot at the top of the box

01:10:33.170 --> 01:10:37.829
um thomas makes a good save But for the most

01:10:37.829 --> 01:10:41.050
part, I think they just really shut them down.

01:10:41.489 --> 01:10:45.390
Not the defensive back four. And Andy Thomas

01:10:45.390 --> 01:10:47.890
just did a great job of minimizing opportunities.

01:10:48.750 --> 01:10:50.930
But then, yeah, so we're in the 54th minute.

01:10:51.970 --> 01:10:58.010
And Danny Musavsky gets his second of the night.

01:10:58.350 --> 01:11:03.310
And it's just the way it's going for LA Galaxy.

01:11:05.409 --> 01:11:15.229
They just can't buy any good luck. Pedro one

01:11:15.229 --> 01:11:17.890
-touches the ball to Jesus at the top of the

01:11:17.890 --> 01:11:24.609
box. Gets it over to Danny who takes... I'm sorry.

01:11:24.930 --> 01:11:27.189
Jesus took the shot, right? Is that what happened

01:11:27.189 --> 01:11:31.489
there? Jesus takes the shot and the rebound just

01:11:31.489 --> 01:11:34.739
spills out. Yeah, Jesus takes the one time shot

01:11:34.739 --> 01:11:38.420
and Danny's just all alone at the top of the

01:11:38.420 --> 01:11:41.760
box to to clean up the rebound into an empty

01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:46.439
net. Just like Danny's like half jogging even

01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:48.520
before he puts it in the net, just knowing that

01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:53.880
this is this is a goal. Yeah. Yeah. It just just

01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:57.420
poachers goal. And we talked about Danny in this

01:11:57.420 --> 01:12:01.840
regards earlier in the season and the. This run

01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:05.060
of form really kind of puts it together. You're

01:12:05.060 --> 01:12:11.220
really seeing Danny doing the hard work in a

01:12:11.220 --> 01:12:14.859
Chris Wondolowski kind of way. Chris Wondolowski

01:12:14.859 --> 01:12:18.779
scored a lot of goals in this league and didn't

01:12:18.779 --> 01:12:21.319
always look like the most dangerous player, but

01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.899
put himself in great positions. And I think Danny,

01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.500
when he's at his best, is doing a lot of those

01:12:27.500 --> 01:12:30.119
same things. What would you think about that?

01:12:31.089 --> 01:12:35.470
Yeah, I would have been surprised before the

01:12:35.470 --> 01:12:37.670
season if we had said that was going to be the

01:12:37.670 --> 01:12:40.050
case. But yeah, I think that's a good analysis

01:12:40.050 --> 01:12:42.449
now. Just because last year he struggled so much

01:12:42.449 --> 01:12:46.590
to really get minutes, let alone have an impact

01:12:46.590 --> 01:12:48.850
when he did get minutes. But we're seeing this

01:12:48.850 --> 01:12:53.770
year just being that ultimate poacher. Yeah.

01:12:54.390 --> 01:12:59.630
Yeah, and making some really good... drawing

01:12:59.630 --> 01:13:05.550
those defenders in a way that allow our really

01:13:05.550 --> 01:13:12.149
good passing band of three to pick people apart.

01:13:12.729 --> 01:13:18.449
And what's even better is the more Danny is getting

01:13:18.449 --> 01:13:20.590
on the score sheet, the more the defense has

01:13:20.590 --> 01:13:24.890
to pay more attention to him, which just... lather,

01:13:24.970 --> 01:13:27.689
rinse, repeat. These goals are repeatable goals.

01:13:27.989 --> 01:13:30.829
I mean, but that's the beauty of it. When Osaze

01:13:30.829 --> 01:13:32.829
came in, they had to stay on him for the same

01:13:32.829 --> 01:13:34.989
reason because he's been scoring, right? Like

01:13:34.989 --> 01:13:36.430
they couldn't just go, oh, he's not going to

01:13:36.430 --> 01:13:38.770
score because he's just a big lumbering guy.

01:13:38.829 --> 01:13:42.069
No, like they have to worry about him as an entity

01:13:42.069 --> 01:13:44.590
now, even though he didn't score. I mean, if,

01:13:44.689 --> 01:13:46.590
and same with Georgie, if Georgie doesn't go

01:13:46.590 --> 01:13:48.590
on that run, Snyder Brunel isn't that wide open

01:13:48.590 --> 01:13:50.529
on his goal. Oh yeah. And let's, let's talk about

01:13:50.529 --> 01:13:52.430
that fourth goal. Well, Snyder Brunel comes in,

01:13:52.510 --> 01:13:55.930
he, he takes a shot. um just maybe a minute before

01:13:55.930 --> 01:13:59.869
his goal he takes his first mls shot and it is

01:13:59.869 --> 01:14:06.609
it is a miss it is it is nowhere near um yeah

01:14:06.609 --> 01:14:08.829
but what's beautiful about that that shot is

01:14:08.829 --> 01:14:11.449
you know the team's just like okay let's let's

01:14:11.449 --> 01:14:14.670
get the next one you know no body language wise

01:14:14.670 --> 01:14:17.069
no one's down everyone's just kind of like okay

01:14:17.069 --> 01:14:21.640
let's let's roll and um And then what ends up

01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:26.859
happening is we end up just seconds later, just

01:14:26.859 --> 01:14:34.340
seconds later, here comes Georgie, like you said,

01:14:34.500 --> 01:14:37.600
having that opportunity coming off under the

01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:42.859
wing and making that cross assist in that prime

01:14:42.859 --> 01:14:48.170
assist zone. I'm sorry, not Georgie, Alex. Alex

01:14:48.170 --> 01:14:50.489
is the one that makes that assist. Yeah, so Georgie

01:14:50.489 --> 01:14:53.529
was on the one that allowed, that opened up the

01:14:53.529 --> 01:14:57.430
middle of the field for Snyder to be the first

01:14:57.430 --> 01:15:00.210
one to get to the top of the box. Yeah, because

01:15:00.210 --> 01:15:04.390
it's a 1 -2 where for that fourth goal, it's

01:15:04.390 --> 01:15:10.750
just really well done. So we end up with Christian

01:15:10.750 --> 01:15:17.600
playing it over to KKR. uh kkr putting it into

01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:22.020
alex over over into the the the end line and

01:15:22.020 --> 01:15:25.380
alex just every everyone in the sounders just

01:15:25.380 --> 01:15:28.300
continuing to play where the galaxy are just

01:15:28.300 --> 01:15:30.739
kind of caught ball watching just thinking that

01:15:30.739 --> 01:15:32.279
the ball is going to go out of play they don't

01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:37.199
have to chase it down uh thinking that uh whether

01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:39.600
they're focused on georgie whether they're focused

01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:44.449
like just like if you pause the shot right at

01:15:44.449 --> 01:15:47.550
the point that alex if you pause the ball right

01:15:47.550 --> 01:15:49.710
at the point that alex makes that cross you got

01:15:49.710 --> 01:15:53.949
georgie at the top of the six you've got kkr

01:15:53.949 --> 01:15:58.489
near the top of the box with an opportunity you've

01:15:58.489 --> 01:16:01.810
got one two three four five six la galaxy defenders

01:16:01.810 --> 01:16:08.690
in the box against five sounders and yet there's

01:16:08.690 --> 01:16:13.810
three sounders in position to be the first person

01:16:13.810 --> 01:16:16.930
to the ball. And that's just a defense that gave

01:16:16.930 --> 01:16:21.189
up. That just gave up on the play. And I mean,

01:16:21.229 --> 01:16:25.029
Osaze, what's really fun is that the players

01:16:25.029 --> 01:16:29.430
in the box, it's Georgie, Osaze, KKR, and Snyder

01:16:29.430 --> 01:16:33.689
Brunel. Just all in the box, hungry. And, and

01:16:33.689 --> 01:16:36.430
looking for that goal. And I mean, you love to

01:16:36.430 --> 01:16:40.210
see that it's it's just, it just makes me so

01:16:40.210 --> 01:16:42.369
happy. Those little things that the team's doing

01:16:42.369 --> 01:16:45.170
really well, because so often in a game like

01:16:45.170 --> 01:16:48.189
this, where, where, where you have the three

01:16:48.189 --> 01:16:51.210
nothing lead and you're making these subs so

01:16:51.210 --> 01:16:55.010
many times you, you lose cohesion and that's

01:16:55.010 --> 01:16:58.210
where you give up that goal that ends the shutout

01:16:58.210 --> 01:17:00.369
and makes the, you know, makes the game a little

01:17:00.369 --> 01:17:04.359
less fun. But here, they just kept picking up

01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:06.260
where they left off, where the starters left

01:17:06.260 --> 01:17:08.399
off. And I thought the Sounders did a really

01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:10.560
great job of that today. And I'm just so happy

01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:14.720
that those young guys get that reward. Yeah,

01:17:14.779 --> 01:17:18.020
I mean, we've seen that from KKR all season,

01:17:18.100 --> 01:17:21.119
that he has that ability. We've seen Osaze come

01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:23.220
out of his shell and really start to shine with

01:17:23.220 --> 01:17:27.300
Liska. But we see Georgie also have that impact.

01:17:28.569 --> 01:17:31.010
he lost some minutes because of some of his play

01:17:31.010 --> 01:17:34.590
and then uh and then the red card although stupid

01:17:34.590 --> 01:17:36.470
obviously didn't have an impact other than him

01:17:36.470 --> 01:17:40.470
in a game like he's going to miss what the semifinal

01:17:40.470 --> 01:17:42.810
no no he already no no he already missed it he

01:17:42.810 --> 01:17:45.630
missed that yeah yeah that's right because because

01:17:45.630 --> 01:17:49.369
he would have um him coming on off the bench

01:17:49.369 --> 01:17:54.069
against uh santos he was he was in line to get

01:17:54.069 --> 01:17:58.670
the start against against uh tawana and and And

01:17:58.670 --> 01:18:02.310
that's the messaging, if I'm Brian, is you shot

01:18:02.310 --> 01:18:04.270
yourself in the foot, kid. You don't know how

01:18:04.270 --> 01:18:07.409
many opportunities you're going to get. You can't

01:18:07.409 --> 01:18:12.250
take away those opportunities. And when you score

01:18:12.250 --> 01:18:16.829
the goal, yeah. Yeah, and it doesn't need to

01:18:16.829 --> 01:18:18.869
be more than that, right? Like, clearly knew

01:18:18.869 --> 01:18:24.430
who got the message. Yeah, he's been fantastic

01:18:24.430 --> 01:18:27.420
since he's come back. Brian made clear. He doesn't

01:18:27.420 --> 01:18:29.119
need to earn our trust necessarily. I mean, he

01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:31.199
does, but he needs to more earn the player's

01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:34.699
trust on the field. And he's done that. And I

01:18:34.699 --> 01:18:37.380
think Georgie, same thing. So giving them those

01:18:37.380 --> 01:18:40.659
chances to go out there and succeed. And that's

01:18:40.659 --> 01:18:42.880
another reason why the Ryan Kent injury is so

01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:45.279
frustrating. He was doing the same thing where

01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:48.020
you're seeing him out there drawing fouls and

01:18:48.020 --> 01:18:51.239
just having this ability that, I mean, Georgie

01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:53.100
has it, but some of our other players aren't

01:18:53.100 --> 01:18:55.260
good at drawing fouls that way because they don't

01:18:55.260 --> 01:18:57.060
know. You don't play that game, right? In the

01:18:57.060 --> 01:18:59.520
MLS, you're not taught to like, because when

01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:01.819
you get fouled, you don't always go down. I mean,

01:19:01.819 --> 01:19:03.739
I think of so many times where Nate Jaqua, if

01:19:03.739 --> 01:19:05.180
he had just gone down when he was fouled in the

01:19:05.180 --> 01:19:07.260
box, he would have had so many penalties, but

01:19:07.260 --> 01:19:09.000
he was just a big lumbering dude who wouldn't

01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.260
go down. But it was also a different era of MLS

01:19:12.260 --> 01:19:14.520
where those calls weren't always being made anyways.

01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:17.720
But then you look at the Converse, you look at

01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:21.319
Dempsey and their Nico, where they knew how to

01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:23.579
get those fouls in dangerous free kick spots.

01:19:24.470 --> 01:19:29.090
They were really good at that. But yeah, knew

01:19:29.090 --> 01:19:38.409
who's been really good. I think the club is just

01:19:38.409 --> 01:19:41.310
in a really good spot right now. It's going to

01:19:41.310 --> 01:19:43.890
be a really interesting match next week against

01:19:43.890 --> 01:19:48.270
Minnesota. This is a big, big match. This is

01:19:48.270 --> 01:19:51.569
a match where we have the opportunity to jump

01:19:51.569 --> 01:19:55.210
into third place. We have a game in hand on Minnesota,

01:19:55.409 --> 01:19:57.310
so no matter what happens in this game, we're

01:19:57.310 --> 01:20:01.550
going to still have that game in hand. But wouldn't

01:20:01.550 --> 01:20:04.529
it be nice to be level on points with the game

01:20:04.529 --> 01:20:07.670
in hand against them? I feel like this week a

01:20:07.670 --> 01:20:10.649
lot of results went our way. A lot of teams above

01:20:10.649 --> 01:20:16.250
us in the standings lost or drew. And so it was

01:20:16.250 --> 01:20:19.329
wonderful to see us taking advantage of that.

01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:23.319
And really getting the result that we needed.

01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:29.060
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a big road win leading

01:20:29.060 --> 01:20:32.340
to another big road game. And it's not a must

01:20:32.340 --> 01:20:35.460
win, obviously. But it sure puts the Sounders

01:20:35.460 --> 01:20:37.500
in a really good position moving forward. Because

01:20:37.500 --> 01:20:40.039
you're not getting a bunch of games against the

01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:41.859
teams ahead of you moving forward. Except for

01:20:41.859 --> 01:20:45.819
Vancouver. You know what I mean? The standings

01:20:45.819 --> 01:20:48.560
are such that we've played... the teams ahead

01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:52.239
of us. So this is a big win, a chance for a win.

01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:55.100
You know, a point would be fine, but the fact

01:20:55.100 --> 01:20:58.760
that we have a chance to get a win and move even

01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:01.399
with them in the, in the MLS standings in third

01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:03.960
place is huge. Especially cause we'd like to,

01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:07.119
number one, we'd like to be top two. I think

01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:09.079
it's going to be hard to catch San Diego, but

01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:11.039
we would like to be top two when the end of the

01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:15.310
season ends with 10 games left. it's doable to

01:21:15.310 --> 01:21:17.369
catch san diego but we're gonna need some help

01:21:17.369 --> 01:21:20.470
uh the other thing is right now we're lined up

01:21:20.470 --> 01:21:22.050
to play portland in the playoffs and if we could

01:21:22.050 --> 01:21:25.430
just avoid that that would be wonderful i'm assuming

01:21:25.430 --> 01:21:29.670
with their dp leaving uh and some stuff like

01:21:29.670 --> 01:21:32.930
that but i just don't i just can't let's not

01:21:32.930 --> 01:21:34.770
play them in the playoffs again if we can help

01:21:34.770 --> 01:21:41.569
it well we are we are in good shape i think that

01:21:41.569 --> 01:21:46.510
the way We've been playing since Club World Cup.

01:21:46.609 --> 01:21:48.609
I think the biggest takeaway from the Club World

01:21:48.609 --> 01:21:51.949
Cup is you gave our team competitive matches

01:21:51.949 --> 01:21:56.250
against three of the world's top teams. You know,

01:21:56.250 --> 01:22:00.710
just fantastic stuff. And the club really learned

01:22:00.710 --> 01:22:04.329
a lot of great lessons from that, including self

01:22:04.329 --> 01:22:08.050
-confidence and their own abilities. And now

01:22:08.050 --> 01:22:12.069
they're imposing their will on other teams. And

01:22:12.069 --> 01:22:19.270
I love seeing that. And I hope that continues.

01:22:21.489 --> 01:22:27.729
Eventually, we're going to drop a result. We're

01:22:27.729 --> 01:22:31.949
going to lose a game. It's going to happen. Are

01:22:31.949 --> 01:22:37.810
we? We might not. I mean, you know, there's a

01:22:37.810 --> 01:22:41.029
funny part. I mean, the funny part is, though,

01:22:41.029 --> 01:22:44.329
I was going to say, hey, just remember that when,

01:22:44.449 --> 01:22:49.789
you know, to not be all doom and gloom. Because

01:22:49.789 --> 01:22:59.949
our last, you know, our basically since, man,

01:23:00.310 --> 01:23:05.890
since May, you know, since May, the last three

01:23:05.890 --> 01:23:11.170
months. we've been on like a 70 72 point average

01:23:11.170 --> 01:23:13.909
if you're not counting the three club world cup

01:23:13.909 --> 01:23:16.750
games yeah which i'm not gonna count you know

01:23:16.750 --> 01:23:19.489
so i mean look at who we're playing minnesota

01:23:19.489 --> 01:23:21.550
this is the big this is one of two i think big

01:23:21.550 --> 01:23:24.850
matches puebla well yeah because we've got we

01:23:24.850 --> 01:23:27.409
got pueblo but then then we got sporting kansas

01:23:27.409 --> 01:23:30.850
city we should win but yeah skc we should win

01:23:30.850 --> 01:23:32.890
salt lake we should win galaxy obviously we should

01:23:32.890 --> 01:23:36.340
win at inner miami is going to be tough Austin,

01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:39.279
we should win. Home versus Vancouver, we should

01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:41.760
win. Home versus Portland, we should win. No,

01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:43.380
no, no, no, no, no. No, those are both road.

01:23:44.819 --> 01:23:47.239
Not. Nope. No, you're right. You're right. Those

01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:48.720
are homes. Those are both homes. And then we're

01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:51.960
at New York City. That's such a weird one. How

01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:56.539
did you schedule an inter -conference game for

01:23:56.539 --> 01:23:59.439
decision day? I know. You didn't need to do that.

01:23:59.819 --> 01:24:06.279
It's weird. But, I mean. From this, I mean, the

01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:08.039
Inter -Miami game is going to be tough because

01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:11.560
it's in Miami. They obviously aren't going to

01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:13.539
lose every game 4 -1 like they just did to Orlando.

01:24:13.699 --> 01:24:16.500
They're good at home. I think a lot will depend

01:24:16.500 --> 01:24:19.479
on where they are. I mean, there's still, what,

01:24:19.539 --> 01:24:22.460
four games left after that, so they will need

01:24:22.460 --> 01:24:25.180
some points there. Most likely, they're not just

01:24:25.180 --> 01:24:26.739
going to run away with the supporter shield,

01:24:26.899 --> 01:24:31.340
right, like they did last year. mean galaxy is

01:24:31.340 --> 01:24:32.979
always going to be tough but based on what we're

01:24:32.979 --> 01:24:34.739
seeing this year we should win all these games

01:24:34.739 --> 01:24:41.460
i don't want to play galaxy in leagues cup right

01:24:41.460 --> 01:24:43.739
because that means we play them three times in

01:24:43.739 --> 01:24:49.680
uh a month yeah and and and a month and especially

01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:52.859
when you just when you just dismantled them like

01:24:52.859 --> 01:25:00.630
that yeah um yeah It's like I was playing Cruz

01:25:00.630 --> 01:25:02.649
Azul the third time. We might need to play Inter

01:25:02.649 --> 01:25:04.670
-Miami twice in a row as well if they make it

01:25:04.670 --> 01:25:07.130
to the final and we make it to the final. Yeah,

01:25:07.350 --> 01:25:11.329
but it'd be here at home. Oh, against Miami it'd

01:25:11.329 --> 01:25:15.670
be at home? Yeah. That's good. We have home field

01:25:15.670 --> 01:25:17.869
advantage to the rest of League's Cup with the

01:25:17.869 --> 01:25:21.729
exception of if we play the Galaxy. Oh, interesting.

01:25:22.029 --> 01:25:26.569
I wonder why that is. Okay. So here's, here's,

01:25:26.569 --> 01:25:28.770
I actually looked up a shocker. I looked up the,

01:25:28.850 --> 01:25:33.050
the FIFA rules committee handbook. Yeah. So here's,

01:25:33.050 --> 01:25:38.289
here's how this works. So with leagues cup, how

01:25:38.289 --> 01:25:42.090
it went down was they wanted to give, there's

01:25:42.090 --> 01:25:44.229
a reason that like the America versus Portland

01:25:44.229 --> 01:25:46.789
game was in Austin, you know, like, well, that

01:25:46.789 --> 01:25:49.510
doesn't make sense. They wanted to give some

01:25:49.510 --> 01:25:53.470
of the big four teams in Mexico, some. quote

01:25:53.470 --> 01:25:55.670
-unquote home games right like the cruz azul

01:25:55.670 --> 01:25:57.590
game was a home game for cruz azul even though

01:25:57.590 --> 01:26:02.869
it was in seattle yeah so once we got to the

01:26:02.869 --> 01:26:07.590
knockout round the host privileges were as follows

01:26:07.590 --> 01:26:12.369
because la galaxy won mls cup every game they

01:26:12.369 --> 01:26:15.029
get is at home no matter what so that that's

01:26:15.029 --> 01:26:17.750
the order of operations so la galaxy are at home

01:26:17.750 --> 01:26:22.029
period as the as the host i yeah that's just

01:26:22.029 --> 01:26:27.579
how it is now club america one seed except for

01:26:27.579 --> 01:26:31.800
if we play la galaxy what a dumb tournament well

01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:35.500
club america as the league mx champions will

01:26:35.500 --> 01:26:39.199
have host privileges through the semi -finals

01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:42.300
other than for matches against the galaxy just

01:26:42.300 --> 01:26:47.539
only through the semi -finals so so yeah cruz

01:26:47.539 --> 01:26:51.670
azul Same thing. Hosting privileges through the

01:26:51.670 --> 01:26:54.489
semifinals against matches other than LA Galaxy,

01:26:54.489 --> 01:26:57.569
obviously, doesn't matter. No, they're out. Yeah.

01:26:58.130 --> 01:27:00.810
They did it because they were the highest -ranking

01:27:00.810 --> 01:27:03.649
Liga MX club in the League's Cup ranking table.

01:27:04.029 --> 01:27:07.689
Okay. Then that goes through the semifinals.

01:27:08.109 --> 01:27:12.069
But then through the quarterfinals only, then

01:27:12.069 --> 01:27:17.560
Toluca, Tigres, Monterey, and Pumas have... hosting

01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:23.020
privileges um which would be in certain markets

01:27:23.020 --> 01:27:26.779
i think in uh like oh that'd be in austin or

01:27:26.779 --> 01:27:30.300
la or wherever that that that how that works

01:27:30.300 --> 01:27:31.800
i don't think it would have been literally at

01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:33.840
their home stadium but i could be wrong about

01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:38.079
that um but in the end there i think the idea

01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:41.720
is With Leagues Cup, because all the games are

01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:43.859
being played in the U .S., they wanted to try

01:27:43.859 --> 01:27:47.800
and give some sort of benefit to top Liga MX

01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:51.399
teams, I think. So I get the mindset to a degree.

01:27:51.779 --> 01:27:54.779
But because Club America is out, because Cruz

01:27:54.779 --> 01:27:58.619
Azul is out, we can ignore that whole side. And

01:27:58.619 --> 01:28:02.000
because we're not playing Tigres, Monterey, Pumas,

01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:05.479
or Toluca, we don't have to worry about that.

01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:10.359
So what we did in this tournament is meaningless,

01:28:10.460 --> 01:28:12.899
essentially. No, no, no, no. It's very meaningful.

01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:17.520
Well, it's meaningless against LA Galaxy. Even

01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:19.680
though we were better than them, we were the

01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:21.720
number one seed. We still have to play at LA

01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:24.060
Galaxy, which, you know, isn't as scary as normal,

01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:28.720
but it's annoying. I just think it's why it doesn't

01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:32.069
make sense to me because... You used that kind

01:28:32.069 --> 01:28:34.270
of stuff to set up the tournament, and I understand

01:28:34.270 --> 01:28:36.989
on the Liga MX side, but why are you still throwing

01:28:36.989 --> 01:28:39.109
bones to LA now when they didn't deserve it?

01:28:39.270 --> 01:28:41.890
They didn't do as well. I mean, granted, they

01:28:41.890 --> 01:28:44.609
were in the hardest group probably, just like

01:28:44.609 --> 01:28:47.850
we were, because we had to play Cruz Azul. Yeah.

01:28:49.130 --> 01:28:51.170
But then again, we also had to play Santos, which

01:28:51.170 --> 01:28:56.149
was absolute garbage. They're such ass. And yet

01:28:56.149 --> 01:28:58.500
they... Played a lot better against us than Tijuana

01:28:58.500 --> 01:29:01.680
did, but we struggled against them. Yeah, yeah.

01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:09.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in the end, it's really...

01:29:09.500 --> 01:29:15.680
Our results mattered in the first round, in Phase

01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:21.260
1. If we play LA Galaxy, it's not that different

01:29:21.260 --> 01:29:24.659
than US Open Cup, where it's a blind draw on

01:29:24.659 --> 01:29:29.949
these things. um but at least here there's only

01:29:29.949 --> 01:29:33.449
one team one game in which we wouldn't host we

01:29:33.449 --> 01:29:37.189
host the rest of the way and so so so are we

01:29:37.189 --> 01:29:42.149
rooting against la galaxy then i am yeah i am

01:29:42.149 --> 01:29:47.909
for especially because in the unlikely scenario

01:29:47.909 --> 01:29:52.949
in which we lose our next game um i do not want

01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:57.180
a team that has the potential to win open cup

01:29:57.180 --> 01:30:02.479
or mls cup uh that's who i want to advance in

01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:06.159
leagues cup only because i want to qualify for

01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:09.060
champions league so eliminating teams that would

01:30:09.060 --> 01:30:12.039
be below us is always a thing yeah i mean i think

01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:15.399
this is our best shot for not not that we don't

01:30:15.399 --> 01:30:17.220
have other shots but this is our best shot for

01:30:17.220 --> 01:30:20.119
champions league right here we're two wins away

01:30:20.699 --> 01:30:23.039
We're two wins away from Champions League because

01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:26.479
if we win this next game where we are the biggest

01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:31.119
favorite in the next round of League's Cup, knock

01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:36.180
on wood, but that's just a reality because we

01:30:36.180 --> 01:30:44.859
are expected to beat Pueblo. They're not in great

01:30:44.859 --> 01:30:48.100
form. They just had a good run of games in League's

01:30:48.100 --> 01:30:51.829
Cup. They're the only team that's not the top.

01:30:51.989 --> 01:30:54.890
I mean, the other three teams from Mexico are

01:30:54.890 --> 01:30:56.630
the top three teams in Mexico. I don't know about

01:30:56.630 --> 01:30:58.869
after this weekend's games, but prior to this

01:30:58.869 --> 01:31:00.750
weekend, they were the top three teams on the

01:31:00.750 --> 01:31:07.689
table. And Puebla is not. But then if we beat

01:31:07.689 --> 01:31:14.109
Puebla, then we will be guaranteed at the very

01:31:14.109 --> 01:31:19.989
least to play in the third place game. Because

01:31:19.989 --> 01:31:21.909
there's a third place game because the winner

01:31:21.909 --> 01:31:24.289
of the third place game gets a Champions League

01:31:24.289 --> 01:31:29.710
spot. Yeah. So if we win against Puebla, we play

01:31:29.710 --> 01:31:34.229
the winner of LA and Pachuca. And if we win at

01:31:34.229 --> 01:31:36.310
LA or hosting Pachuca, we play in the final.

01:31:36.329 --> 01:31:39.149
If we lose, we go to the third place game. Correct.

01:31:39.770 --> 01:31:43.850
So if we win against Puebla, we are guaranteed

01:31:43.850 --> 01:31:49.729
an opportunity. for a one game and you're in

01:31:49.729 --> 01:31:52.550
to champions league it's so funny because on

01:31:52.550 --> 01:31:55.109
the brackets it would we should be hosting like

01:31:55.109 --> 01:31:57.909
we're the we're the higher up team just yeah

01:31:57.909 --> 01:31:59.989
but then the rules cut it out like because we

01:31:59.989 --> 01:32:02.729
would be the top meaning up of the you know soccer

01:32:02.729 --> 01:32:04.869
that the team on the top is the home team unlike

01:32:04.869 --> 01:32:08.890
every other american sport uh but yeah so it's

01:32:08.890 --> 01:32:11.789
so yeah so if you get top three in league you're

01:32:11.789 --> 01:32:13.949
what you're saying is we get top three in league's

01:32:13.949 --> 01:32:15.510
cup you're guaranteed a spot in champions league

01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:18.579
Correct. The top three teams are in Champions

01:32:18.579 --> 01:32:23.500
League. Okay. Which means you likely, I mean,

01:32:23.500 --> 01:32:28.420
if you make it through, it's Toluca, Orlando,

01:32:28.779 --> 01:32:30.840
Miami, Tigris. So if we make it to a third base

01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:34.619
game, we're probably playing Toluca, Orlando,

01:32:34.939 --> 01:32:42.809
and then hopefully not Tigris. Who knows? This

01:32:42.809 --> 01:32:46.130
Tigris team is not the same Tigris team of years

01:32:46.130 --> 01:32:50.569
past. Right, but they're playing decent. But

01:32:50.569 --> 01:32:55.270
all of these teams are going to be games. With

01:32:55.270 --> 01:33:00.449
that said, there's no one in this bracket that,

01:33:00.569 --> 01:33:03.409
and I think the Sounders have the same attitude,

01:33:03.689 --> 01:33:07.130
there's no one in this bracket who is scarier

01:33:07.130 --> 01:33:08.810
than the teams that the Sounders have already

01:33:08.810 --> 01:33:11.850
played this season. right but tigris did just

01:33:11.850 --> 01:33:16.909
beat puebla seven nothing on friday which is

01:33:16.909 --> 01:33:21.069
why um true but at the same time how much of

01:33:21.069 --> 01:33:24.489
that was just reserves against reserves that

01:33:24.489 --> 01:33:26.569
in that i don't know and they and the red card

01:33:26.569 --> 01:33:28.609
was there was only one goal after the red card

01:33:28.609 --> 01:33:30.710
so it was they had six goals before a red card

01:33:30.710 --> 01:33:33.149
came out so i don't know because both of them

01:33:33.149 --> 01:33:38.069
just played three games in america and they had

01:33:38.069 --> 01:33:41.920
to play to win because they they all needed to

01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:44.239
they knew they needed a result to it to to go

01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:47.460
into the knockout round so so this very well

01:33:47.460 --> 01:33:51.180
losses though so i mean they're not they're at

01:33:51.180 --> 01:33:52.420
they're near the bottom of the table they're

01:33:52.420 --> 01:33:55.479
16 out of 18 right now oh yeah no but what i'm

01:33:55.479 --> 01:34:00.060
saying is i i as i just don't believe i just

01:34:00.060 --> 01:34:04.260
can't believe that um that that that these teams

01:34:04.260 --> 01:34:09.100
put on their starting 11. What I'm saying is

01:34:09.100 --> 01:34:12.619
that game could have been like the Sounders -LAFC

01:34:12.619 --> 01:34:15.020
game earlier this season where we scored the

01:34:15.020 --> 01:34:18.640
five goals, but it was really a test of which

01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:20.680
team had better depth because both of us were

01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.180
in the middle of a Champions League run. Yeah.

01:34:24.140 --> 01:34:26.340
Well, I mean, there's an easy way to do that

01:34:26.340 --> 01:34:29.579
is to look at their starting lineups from previous

01:34:29.579 --> 01:34:33.859
matches, but, you know, I guess I can pull that

01:34:33.859 --> 01:34:37.399
up right now. So, I mean, we don't know. I already

01:34:37.399 --> 01:34:39.520
have that match pulled up, so I can tell you

01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:43.939
as soon as the last Pachuca score pulls up here.

01:34:44.699 --> 01:34:47.460
I mean, Puebla, excuse me, score pulls up here.

01:34:48.220 --> 01:34:51.079
If we're scrolling up, who was the last time

01:34:51.079 --> 01:34:56.520
they played? It looks like they played Montreal

01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:02.359
in a 2 -1 win. And looking at their starters

01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:06.350
side by side. Well, I'll tell you what. I've

01:35:06.350 --> 01:35:10.590
got their season average starting 11 up. Well,

01:35:10.590 --> 01:35:14.430
I know who they started against Montreal, which

01:35:14.430 --> 01:35:17.210
was what put them through, right? No, no, no.

01:35:17.270 --> 01:35:23.109
Give me their starting 11 against Tigres. All

01:35:23.109 --> 01:35:26.069
right, so Rodriguez and Goal. Wait, yes. Rodriguez

01:35:26.069 --> 01:35:30.159
and Goal, who is their regular starter. They

01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:32.479
played three at the back instead of four, which

01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:34.300
is what they had previously been playing. So

01:35:34.300 --> 01:35:38.640
they played Diaz, Fedorko, and Ray, who are none

01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.359
of their regular starters, it looks like. Okay.

01:35:42.460 --> 01:35:47.520
They played Perez, Moyano, and Gamara in the

01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:50.520
middle, which, again, not their regular players.

01:35:52.539 --> 01:35:58.760
Ochoa, Organista, and O 'Gonzalez up front. which

01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:00.300
is like not their regular play. Yeah, and then

01:36:00.300 --> 01:36:04.020
Marin up top, who's not who they've been starting.

01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:08.439
So interesting. They did bring players off the

01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:10.539
bench, their starters off the bench, though,

01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:13.239
it looks like, and got them some minutes. So

01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:16.739
it was a mostly rotated squad. I would have been

01:36:16.739 --> 01:36:20.359
very curious to see that 50th minute, 50th to

01:36:20.359 --> 01:36:23.720
60th minute, 51st minute, 55th minute, 58th minute,

01:36:23.779 --> 01:36:26.199
three goals for Teague. Yep, third one being

01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:31.039
an own goal. Just, just, yeah. Yeah. So yeah.

01:36:31.100 --> 01:36:33.939
I mean, it interesting, interesting that maybe

01:36:33.939 --> 01:36:36.819
they both rotated. I can't, I can't, I don't

01:36:36.819 --> 01:36:40.300
know enough about Tigris either, but seven, nothing

01:36:40.300 --> 01:36:44.520
is a lot. Luckily they don't play us next. I

01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:46.380
wouldn't, I don't want to face a team right after

01:36:46.380 --> 01:36:51.699
they've lost seven, nothing. Yeah, that's fair.

01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:54.920
I think, I think that, I think that's very fair.

01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:58.850
But. Unfortunately, we're the ones that are doing

01:36:58.850 --> 01:37:00.449
that kind of damage. We're not the ones that

01:37:00.449 --> 01:37:02.729
have to deal with the aftermath. Right. So we

01:37:02.729 --> 01:37:05.010
beat LA Galaxy 4 -0. We play Minnesota coming

01:37:05.010 --> 01:37:09.409
up this Saturday evening in Minnesota. Huge game.

01:37:11.510 --> 01:37:14.829
Chance to tie them because it's our game in hand.

01:37:14.930 --> 01:37:16.409
Got to win those games in hands if you want to

01:37:16.409 --> 01:37:17.829
be successful. What are you expecting to see

01:37:17.829 --> 01:37:22.409
from the Sounders in that match? Well, we know

01:37:22.409 --> 01:37:24.750
that Minnesota is an interesting team where they

01:37:24.750 --> 01:37:28.159
don't like possession. And so I expect the Sounders

01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:31.600
to have a lot of possession. So this is a game

01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:35.840
where it would be really fucking nice if the

01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:39.920
Sounders had Albert Rosnack. I'm guessing we're

01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:43.779
not going to have Albert Rosnack. No, he definitely

01:37:43.779 --> 01:37:47.180
won't. I don't think it's enough time, even if

01:37:47.180 --> 01:37:49.779
his injury is the minimum time. Because I think

01:37:49.779 --> 01:37:51.680
three weeks was what they thought would be minimum

01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:56.670
based on it. We don't know the extent of the

01:37:56.670 --> 01:38:01.189
injury, sadly. Yeah, and this is that game earlier

01:38:01.189 --> 01:38:04.890
in the season. This is the game where the Sounders

01:38:04.890 --> 01:38:08.090
kind of had momentum throughout the game, except

01:38:08.090 --> 01:38:12.229
for that 10 -minute stretch where just chaos

01:38:12.229 --> 01:38:16.470
happened. Just absolute chaos where, same thing,

01:38:16.510 --> 01:38:19.069
in the 50th to the 60th minute, there were four

01:38:19.069 --> 01:38:24.409
goals. Minnesota scores to make it one, nothing.

01:38:24.489 --> 01:38:28.229
Rienzi scores three minutes later than Minnesota

01:38:28.229 --> 01:38:32.069
scores. Or I'm sorry, Minnesota scores to make

01:38:32.069 --> 01:38:34.609
it one, nothing. Minnesota scores a penalty to

01:38:34.609 --> 01:38:36.909
make it two, nothing. We score immediately on

01:38:36.909 --> 01:38:39.449
the first kick after that. And then they score

01:38:39.449 --> 01:38:41.369
on like the first possession after that. So like

01:38:41.369 --> 01:38:45.489
four goals and like in like six minutes, just

01:38:45.489 --> 01:38:52.290
a weird, weird game. So I don't, necessarily

01:38:52.290 --> 01:38:56.510
expect that to happen again. But that was also

01:38:56.510 --> 01:39:00.609
a game where we started Jonathan Bell and Cosa

01:39:00.609 --> 01:39:05.869
Rienzi in the back four. Great. I mean, Bell's

01:39:05.869 --> 01:39:08.510
a great player. Depth on our team. I don't see

01:39:08.510 --> 01:39:11.630
him starting, though, considering... No. So,

01:39:12.170 --> 01:39:16.050
you know, Bell's now fourth on the depth chart

01:39:16.050 --> 01:39:23.050
again. Yeah. So I do expect our back four. Oh,

01:39:23.109 --> 01:39:25.989
because you're also thinking about, I mean, because

01:39:25.989 --> 01:39:29.029
what you've got to remember is, so we've got

01:39:29.029 --> 01:39:32.890
the game against Minnesota, and then four days

01:39:32.890 --> 01:39:40.229
later will be the Puebla game. So the worst part

01:39:40.229 --> 01:39:47.470
is both games are important. And so. And Pueblo

01:39:47.470 --> 01:39:50.770
will have five days off. They'll get an extra

01:39:50.770 --> 01:39:57.310
day's rest before our game. So, wow. I don't

01:39:57.310 --> 01:40:00.050
know what the play is. I think... I think you've

01:40:00.050 --> 01:40:02.470
got to go in. I mean, if you want the right positioning.

01:40:02.729 --> 01:40:07.489
Because I don't see... With the week off, because

01:40:07.489 --> 01:40:09.289
we have the week off now, that's why I think

01:40:09.289 --> 01:40:12.689
it's okay. If we didn't, then I think it's okay.

01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:14.979
Because then with the week off, then you're like,

01:40:15.020 --> 01:40:16.479
okay, well, we're going to play two games in

01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:20.619
five days. Right. And then the next game is where

01:40:20.619 --> 01:40:27.520
you – was it KC after that? Yeah. I mean – Pueblo

01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:33.420
is playing San Luis, who lost 2 -1 to Cruz Azul

01:40:33.420 --> 01:40:37.329
tonight. I mean, you're not wrong. And yeah,

01:40:37.489 --> 01:40:40.510
they may just go full best starting 11, both

01:40:40.510 --> 01:40:44.689
games. I think it'll depend on, I mean, goalie,

01:40:44.689 --> 01:40:46.250
I think is up for question. Alex Diaz threw a

01:40:46.250 --> 01:40:47.909
question in about that in the mailbag. Do we

01:40:47.909 --> 01:40:50.789
think he's coming back? We've already kind of

01:40:50.789 --> 01:40:53.170
discussed that. I want to know, do you think

01:40:53.170 --> 01:40:55.449
that we're going to, I mean, I saw someone on

01:40:55.449 --> 01:40:57.149
our discord talk about how terrible Ferreira

01:40:57.149 --> 01:41:00.210
was at the 10 and Schmetzer talked about how

01:41:00.210 --> 01:41:04.329
great he was at the 10. Now one did it. One did

01:41:04.329 --> 01:41:06.529
it at halftime versus the end of the game, so

01:41:06.529 --> 01:41:10.050
that perhaps changes some minds. But yeah, I

01:41:10.050 --> 01:41:14.569
mean, was he Russ Nat good? No. But he seemed

01:41:14.569 --> 01:41:20.270
pretty solid to me. Creating five chances, got

01:41:20.270 --> 01:41:26.510
four shots. Seven touches in the opposition box.

01:41:28.649 --> 01:41:30.930
Successful dribble, four for four on crosses.

01:41:33.499 --> 01:41:37.359
I don't see it. I don't see where the challenge

01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:47.039
is, three for four on ground duels. I don't see

01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:51.399
the criticism. Yeah, I mean, I think I understand

01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:54.619
the criticism of him in general over time, especially

01:41:54.619 --> 01:41:58.659
he's missed some easy goals. But we have seen

01:41:58.659 --> 01:42:02.920
him have great success on the right. I think

01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:04.899
he's been most successful since he settled in

01:42:04.899 --> 01:42:08.420
on the right mid. If he can take that and play

01:42:08.420 --> 01:42:11.359
at that level at center attacking mid, because

01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:13.819
of the depth we have on the right, I don't think

01:42:13.819 --> 01:42:16.460
we really miss this. I mean, I love Rusnak. I

01:42:16.460 --> 01:42:19.359
don't think we miss a step, though. I think Jesus

01:42:19.359 --> 01:42:25.380
can step in and create danger from that position.

01:42:25.479 --> 01:42:28.979
I think he's much more effective on the squad

01:42:28.979 --> 01:42:32.159
as a 10 than as a 9. Yeah, oh, I agree with that

01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:34.840
100%. Although when he did play nine, he was

01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:37.619
playing as a second striker more than as a traditional

01:42:37.619 --> 01:42:40.899
number nine. But I guess I'm just saying that

01:42:40.899 --> 01:42:45.300
I don't see a problem with... I don't see a problem

01:42:45.300 --> 01:42:51.220
with how... We have no better option at this

01:42:51.220 --> 01:42:53.560
point, I think. I mean, they played Danny up

01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:57.859
there in a match. I mean, I think we saw Danny...

01:42:58.829 --> 01:43:01.390
uh i think we've seen more success and it's because

01:43:01.390 --> 01:43:03.149
of danny's passing ability but we traditionally

01:43:03.149 --> 01:43:05.170
have seen more success of him as a center defensive

01:43:05.170 --> 01:43:07.109
mid who comes forward than we've ever seen of

01:43:07.109 --> 01:43:11.250
him as a center attacking mid yeah but but at

01:43:11.250 --> 01:43:14.289
the same time we got the um you know jesus i

01:43:14.289 --> 01:43:16.329
think has been coming on strong over the last

01:43:16.329 --> 01:43:20.090
month and a half yep uh he's he's at three goals

01:43:20.090 --> 01:43:23.010
four assists in league play uh that doesn't take

01:43:23.010 --> 01:43:28.100
into account this cup yeah that's true Yeah.

01:43:28.180 --> 01:43:33.579
I mean, I think, I think, I think if he, I mean,

01:43:33.579 --> 01:43:35.159
and Schmetzer talked about that, he struggled

01:43:35.159 --> 01:43:36.840
in the beginning, but he's here and he's doing

01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:40.340
well. And I think it shows. And we have a bunch

01:43:40.340 --> 01:43:43.840
of Sounders players who struggle to score and

01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:47.899
stretches, and then they start scoring. And that's,

01:43:47.899 --> 01:43:52.539
I think the nature of being a scoring player,

01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:56.340
especially in the MLS. You're not Wando. Not

01:43:56.340 --> 01:43:58.359
everyone's Wando. You're not going to be the

01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:01.260
all -time leading scorer in MLS history, right?

01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:07.140
We get it from all over. And that's how it's

01:44:07.140 --> 01:44:09.119
going to be with this team because we don't have

01:44:09.119 --> 01:44:12.960
a true number nine target. That's just how it

01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:14.920
is going to be. And so I think you're going to

01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:16.680
see success for different players at different

01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:19.479
times. As long as we're scoring two to three

01:44:19.479 --> 01:44:22.279
goals a game, we'll be fine. And I mean, and,

01:44:22.340 --> 01:44:26.020
and to take that for all comps while he's got

01:44:26.020 --> 01:44:28.859
three goals, four assists in league play, he's

01:44:28.859 --> 01:44:32.420
got four goals and seven assists in all comps

01:44:32.420 --> 01:44:35.359
this season. Yeah. I think it's some of the misses

01:44:35.359 --> 01:44:39.020
have been so frustrating that like wide open

01:44:39.020 --> 01:44:43.239
goals that they stand out rather than the ones

01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:45.579
he has scored or the assists he has made. You

01:44:45.579 --> 01:44:50.260
know what I mean? It's the moment. It just seems

01:44:50.260 --> 01:44:54.340
like a Rorschach test of how you're just a self

01:44:54.340 --> 01:44:56.939
-fulfilling prophecy of what your preconceived

01:44:56.939 --> 01:45:01.060
notion is. That's just my thought. Not for me,

01:45:01.100 --> 01:45:03.539
because I am very pro -Jesus, but I get frustrated

01:45:03.539 --> 01:45:08.640
with his misses. I think he is one of the best

01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:11.399
players on our team, and I would rather have

01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:14.489
him out there than not. Maybe not at right mid.

01:45:14.550 --> 01:45:16.029
That's why I'm really hoping center attacking

01:45:16.029 --> 01:45:18.329
mid works out because I want Rothrock on the

01:45:18.329 --> 01:45:25.550
right. Yeah. All right, so Minnesota, give me

01:45:25.550 --> 01:45:30.069
a score. I always like to wait until I see the

01:45:30.069 --> 01:45:35.029
final lineup, but assuming a strong lineup against

01:45:35.029 --> 01:45:39.180
Minnesota. I felt like we controlled play really

01:45:39.180 --> 01:45:41.159
well last time we played them. I thought we matched

01:45:41.159 --> 01:45:44.119
up well. We had a few moments of just that, like

01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:45.760
I said, that 10 -minute stretch was just really

01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:48.680
fucking weird. I don't see that happening again.

01:45:49.600 --> 01:45:54.560
I think we eke out a 2 -1 victory. Ooh, I like

01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:56.140
that. I'm actually going to say the same thing.

01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:00.279
I think we should be continuing to score at least

01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:03.699
two goals a game. Of course, I would like three,

01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:09.159
but... Let's keep it going. Agreed. Agreed. I

01:46:09.159 --> 01:46:12.119
like it. I like it. So I think that's a good

01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:14.739
list. We've kind of flown through the second

01:46:14.739 --> 01:46:18.579
half here and gotten real long. Our listeners

01:46:18.579 --> 01:46:20.140
are going to be happy. They love the long episodes.

01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:22.140
Aaron's going to be annoyed when he edits. But

01:46:22.140 --> 01:46:23.460
you know what, Aaron? You don't have to listen

01:46:23.460 --> 01:46:24.979
to the episode when you edit. Just put it up

01:46:24.979 --> 01:46:26.659
there. Assume that everything we are saying is

01:46:26.659 --> 01:46:31.119
perfect. I mean, it is. Yeah. We're saying it.

01:46:31.539 --> 01:46:34.670
Yeah. Come on. So where can they find you on

01:46:34.670 --> 01:46:39.930
the internet? Come join us at the Sounders Scuttlebutt

01:46:39.930 --> 01:46:42.770
Discord, where I am actually named Nicholas.

01:46:44.930 --> 01:46:50.350
You can find me on Instagram at Cascades2C. And

01:46:50.350 --> 01:46:53.189
how about yourself? Yeah, LegalMindedPunk on

01:46:53.189 --> 01:46:57.470
all platforms, except for maybe Mastodon. I probably

01:46:57.470 --> 01:47:01.229
have an account on there. I don't know. LO? I

01:47:01.229 --> 01:47:05.449
don't think I use LO. Uh, yeah. Sounder scuttlebutt.

01:47:05.510 --> 01:47:07.649
Uh, give us a listen, give us a rating, tell

01:47:07.649 --> 01:47:10.770
your friends, let's get these, uh, we did bounce

01:47:10.770 --> 01:47:12.670
back. We had a couple, I think people were a

01:47:12.670 --> 01:47:14.569
little frustrated for a bit there. And so our

01:47:14.569 --> 01:47:17.189
listens went down a little bit. Um, but keep

01:47:17.189 --> 01:47:19.210
those listeners coming, man. Keep, keep telling

01:47:19.210 --> 01:47:20.829
your friends. Cause the more listeners we get,

01:47:20.949 --> 01:47:24.850
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01:47:24.850 --> 01:47:26.430
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be a part of the community. It's a fun community.

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01:47:36.899 --> 01:47:42.500
That's my new slogan. Oh, keep an eye out for

01:47:42.500 --> 01:47:47.800
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01:47:47.800 --> 01:47:51.100
stuff. We may start being, you can come see us

01:47:51.100 --> 01:47:56.439
inside the stadium at MLS matches. So look for

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us outside of Section 120 where we'll have flyers

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01:48:02.350 --> 01:48:05.970
Sounds like fun. Take it away, James. All right.

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the best MLS team of all time? Seattle Sounders

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are both unequivocally and irreparably the best

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MLS team of all time.