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It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes

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from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest

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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,

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your moment. Hello and welcome to Scuttlebutt

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Ultras. A product of Sounders Scuttlebutt. Product

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sounds weird. Hey, what's everyone? What's up,

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everyone? Hey, everyone. English, I speak good.

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This is Cameron. I am here with two of the three

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ultras, Dan and Cedar. What is up, gentlemen?

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How are you doing on this fine Sunday evening?

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I am having a great evening. You know, after

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a Sanders win, I watched E -Row put the ball

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in, immediately turned it off, went and had dinner.

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I haven't checked the news yet, so it was a great

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game. Oh, Dan, I have some news for you. There

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was only a minute left. There's no way they could

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have equalized, right? Yeah, do you remember

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the Super Bowl between the Falcons and the Patriots?

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The last Super Bowl I watched was in 1995. That's

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how much of a diehard Cowboys fan you only watch

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when the Cowboys are in? You're never watching

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a Super Bowl again. If we can take a quick second

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to do like a roundabout, you know, way out of

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the way story. You know, remember that the Janet

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Jackson Super Bowl, the super famous one? Yeah,

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I ended up to go get pizza and wings at halftime.

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Came back to the dorms and everybody was having

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a good time except for me. And I was like, what

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did I miss? Well, the Falcons versus. Who did

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they play? Denver Super Bowl. It would have been

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Super Bowl 1999. My roommate got alcohol poisoning

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the night before and was puking everywhere. And

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they had to take him out in an ambulance. And

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I had to go to the hospital with him while they

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pumped his stomach in the emergency room. Because

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he said afterwards, the last thing he remembered

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was his 20th shot. And he was drinking beers

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at the same time. So the Hawaii club, he was

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from Hawaii and the Hawaii club real, real, really

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got him. So that's, that's my big Superbowl.

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One of the couple Superbowl stories has is I

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was, I spent it at the emergency room waiting

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for my, to see if my roommate had brain damage.

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Wow. Jesus. My dad once went to the Superbowl

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and his friends spent all this time under the

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stands gambling instead of watching the game.

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I mean, gambling addiction is a very serious

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thing. Yeah, that is true. Case in point. But

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if you're going to do it, might as well do it

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while the Raiders are playing the Vikings. So

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the Sounders did play. The final score was 2

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-2 as a wonder goal in the 99th minute from a

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guy whose name I cannot pronounce from Atlanta.

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uh curious what y 'all thought of that game just

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in general what are the vibes you're getting

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off of it very nice thank you thank you well

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i wasn't able to watch it live because i was

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at work and usually i'm pretty good about um

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keeping the not knowing what the score is so

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i can watch the replay and kind of you know watch

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it as it's happening similar to like with Aaron

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and the Mariners. But yeah, I, I, I somehow I

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saw the score and I saw it was a two, two draw.

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And I was like, ah, man, like, you know, that

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sucks. I, I was like, no, well now I don't really

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want to watch it. So I ended up watching the

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highlights after I got home from work today.

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And, um, yeah, honestly, I, I feel a lot better

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than I thought I was going to feel. Cause we're,

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you know, we're now what? um were undefeated

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in six or seven since the world cup club world

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cup and it was against an atlanta team that yeah

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they're not doing so great in the standings but

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it sounds like you know because of their recent

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poor performances their head coach ripped them

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a new one um and You could tell they were up

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for the game. They were playing like their backs

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were against the wall because they are. And they

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they took it to us, especially in that first

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half. And, you know, they got a little bit lucky

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with that first goal with the deflection. But

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I mean, the way they played that first half,

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they could have been up two or three nothing

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by the end of it. So the fact that we, you know,

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equalize. got the lead, but then gave it up right

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at the end from, you know, the Marin chick goal.

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Like, yeah, I mean, it was, it was a really nice

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goal. There's not a lot you could do about that.

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I mean, you could close them down a little bit

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quicker. Like a wave was out there, I think,

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but I don't know. I don't think anybody was expecting

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that. So disappointing result, but overall, you

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know, seeing Pedro have a, another good goal,

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another good performance. Yeah. Just overall.

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um not feeling too bad honestly so maybe different

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uh thoughts than dan might have coming out of

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watching the whole match uh cooking at halftime

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i'm gonna just disappoint everybody and i'm not

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really crashing out too much on this game uh

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this uh it's kind of a trend i mean our mls year

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started this way too right giving up late not

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as late but a late equalizer to what charlotte

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and Yeah. Well, you know, we've been shaky towards

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the end of the game a couple of times. I think

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there was some times last year, too. And, you

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know, but sometimes stuff happens. And that was

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that was a great shot. Not much you could do

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to stop it. I don't know for them. They get a

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say in the outcome to the opposing team, get

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to say the outcome, too. But really, you know,

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if you're going to point it to anything, I think

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you're going to have to point at the first half

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and just say, hey, white. why did we look like

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the worst offense that we've had all year in

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the first half? You know, it wasn't even a horseshoe

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at death at the, at the box. It was a horseshoe

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at death at the, at the midfield center backs,

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just, just kind of tossing around. And it's,

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I don't know why every team that plays us just

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doesn't sit in the box and encounter. If I was

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a coach, I would, I would do all day. It seems,

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it seems to work well against us. And you saw,

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especially on, our left, their right, that they

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were able to take Reed to task a few times there.

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We missed Nuhu. Definitely missed Nuhu in the

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game, and so I think maybe we can pump our brakes

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on having to move away from Nuhu. Maybe that's

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why Brian puts up with it, just because he knew

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who's the anchor there on the left when he's

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in. I mean, we know he's an elite -level defender,

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so it's... When he's playing defense, he's on,

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right? And we saw a little offense out of him

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when he had that baby D -row assist. Yeah, that

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was a great dog. Yeah. He was a garbage here

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too, right? I don't know. I am curious if the

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frustration you felt during the first half, because

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I certainly felt it, it was a... A game where

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it felt like, here we go again. Especially on

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the road. This is our MO. We can't seem to score.

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Did the second half wipe that away for you? Because

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Cedar didn't get that since he didn't have to

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sit through the first half. Were you still frustrated

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at the end once it's all said and done? Or do

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you think, we're on the road. Getting a point

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on the road is great. Getting up for a road game

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can be tough. Especially that field. looked horrendous.

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It was only 65 % humidity and only, but still

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it wasn't, you know, Houston 90 % humidity, but

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clearly the players looked winded and just done

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early. I think our midfield needs some rotation

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and the league's got coming up. You know, I think

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anybody's going to be amazed if we don't rotate

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the midfield. They're at least up because that

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would be crazy. No, I mean, what makes me feel

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better at the end of this game is that we still

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have a loss after the World Cup. I think that's

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huge is that we were on an unbeaten streak. Yeah,

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we've had some ties in there that we probably

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should have turned into wins, but we're still

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collecting points and we're still inching forward.

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But, yeah, I mean, as far as being upset about

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the first half, we've talked about it. I have

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sound or scant score PTSD from whenever I came

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in in the past couple years, and it just seems

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to be something that they keep falling back to.

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And whenever times get hard, we're just going

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to kind of hold possession and we're going to

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recycle, and that's it. Let me tell you, even

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before you were a fan, there was games where

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we had 20 shots. One on goal, no goals. It was

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painful. Or we'd win a game 1 -0, and a win's

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good, but it gets frustrating. Yeah, that calls

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to mind that RSL playoff match with that goalie.

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I forget his name now, but I can see his face,

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and I remember hating him so much back then.

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Nick Raimondo? No, no, no, no. It was the young

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guy. It was the young guy. You know who I'm talking

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about. Yeah, and he had a great game, but boy,

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he was, you know, he was totally like shithousing

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and stuff. Like he was, man, that was a rough,

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rough game. That's interesting. Do you think

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for me most, I mean, there's exceptions because

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of Portland players, but outside of Portland

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players, I feel like. The players I hate the

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most are goalies. Let me see. The Kansas City

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goalie who tackled Christian. You know, there's

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just certain, like Nick Raimondo, he had that

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Kobe Bryant effect where he was so good, you

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couldn't hate him. but most of the other ones,

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they're just chumps. Who's the Houston guy who

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used to be in Portland that had the little rat

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tail last year? They didn't keep him, but him,

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I mean, it's just goalies love to make themselves

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the villain because they're trying to get in

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the player's head, and it works. I think I just

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hate goalies because of it. It's huge, right,

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Cedar? If you what? If you make a big save. Like,

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as a goalie, you get under the skin of the players.

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Like, of course people are going to hate you.

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I mean, their job is literally to ruin, like,

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the day of the opposing team. And that's got

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to be... Yeah, I mean, you've got to be a little

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bit psychopathic, too, to be taking all those

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shots. It's intense. So, yeah, I mean, they do

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get amped up, and I think that's definitely...

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They're going to be more animated than most players

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on the field. Yeah. Steve Clark. Yeah. I knew

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it was like a Steve something. Took me a minute.

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Yeah. Yeah. Maxime Crippo. Like there's a lot

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of guys. Yeah. They just like, they rub you the

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wrong way. Yeah. And it feels very personal against

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them. My favorite was, I think it was the Olympia

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keeper who, after who caused a big, uh kerfuffle

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will say and then after brad evans scored the

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game -winning goal against olympia he ran and

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got in his face and uh it was a it was a champions

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league match and it was like and then like of

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course everyone starts shoving in a fight almost

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breaks out but watching brad evans just get fired

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up and go after an opposing keeper was was so

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glorious especially because i think it's not

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i mean it still happens but concaf champions

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league used to be such a clash in styles where

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you had a time -wasting diving team playing against

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an MLS team. And now I think some MLS teams have

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figured out how to time waste and dive a little

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bit. Sounders did it when we went on a run to

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win. We don't see it too often. But man, there's

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something about just going and getting in the

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goalie space and watching Brad Evans. It was

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a game we should have lost and then came back

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and won. And it was just so gratifying. So much

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fun. Well, speaking of goalies, we have one,

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Andrew Thomas. If he continues on the trajectory

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that he's currently on, there's going to be some

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opposing teams of fans that will hate him in

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the coming years. I don't think either of his

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goals, either of the goals he allowed last night

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could have been stopped. I don't think there's

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been really any. I mean, the team has given up

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a lot of goals since he's came in, and there's

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nothing that you can point out with him that

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he's doing wrong in goal. Now, you may be able

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to make the argument that some of the soft skills

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that Try has developed with his maturity and

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being in the league so long, we're missing that

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with some of the structure on the back end. But

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then again, you know, it wasn't Thomas that let,

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you know, Reed Baker Whiting just get a duke.

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It wasn't Thomas that had Amar knock the ball

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into the goal either. So Thomas was in a good

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position for the cross coming back in. Totally.

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Absolutely. And I don't think you can stop from

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that angle. You're not going to be able to stop

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it. You don't expect it, right? It's just bad

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luck because we had it on the other end. They

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had a clearance and it hit the post. So if it's

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to the right an inch or two, it's a goal for

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us, an own goal for us. I think it's those things

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that are keeping me from crashing out on this

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one. Finding the silver lining. Wow. That's,

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I mean, I will say as a Cowboys fan, you're probably

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equipped to find the small things to keep you

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going. I think a lot of my eggs, especially on

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discord is because I'm a Cowboys fan and it's,

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I've seen a team reach a pinnacle and then just

00:15:24.019 --> 00:15:27.639
fall apart. Right. And Seattle Sounders have

00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.500
reached a pinnacle and I'm. like okay are we

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going to continue building the roster in the

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same way that one is our last championships are

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we gonna we changing everything now yeah i mean

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i think that's real uh and as seattle fans we

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i'm sure cedar can speak to this uh it's something

00:15:46.179 --> 00:15:49.899
that uh we're all too familiar with being uh

00:15:49.899 --> 00:15:55.279
mariners fans and seahawks fans and just how

00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:59.269
it goes uh when you're from here it's it's we

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we have the a similar and i think that's where

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a lot of my uh sports anxiety comes from it's

00:16:05.289 --> 00:16:08.809
watching teams get so close but never make it

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now the sounders have made it right we we have

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two stars but uh we get that third one and maybe

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we're considered a great dynasty same with the

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seahawks we get that one win but if they if jeremy

00:16:21.190 --> 00:16:23.570
lane doesn't was his leg he broke in the super

00:16:23.570 --> 00:16:25.409
bowl if cliff averill doesn't get hit in the

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head and suddenly I almost said Wayne Brady.

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Tom Brady doesn't get that Super Bowl win, the

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first one in two decades. Suddenly, Wayne Brady,

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Tom Brady is no longer considered the greatest

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of all time because he hasn't won a Super Bowl

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in two decades. And the Seahawks are one of the

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greatest legacy teams of all time with that defense.

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And so how one game can change the entire perception

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of how you look at people, man, that would have

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been awesome if Tom Brady weren't considered

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the GOAT. Here's the thing, is when you can play

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against the AFC East every single game for your

00:17:01.730 --> 00:17:04.390
entire career, you're going to win a lot of games

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and throw for a lot of yards and always get the

00:17:06.150 --> 00:17:08.089
number one seed in home advantage, home field

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advantage, which is why you're going to win championships.

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So he's overrated. The Cowboys fit in his career.

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Oh, were they the ones that... His last game

00:17:19.250 --> 00:17:21.349
with Tampa Bay was a playoff loss to the Cowboys.

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Excellent. Excellent. I'll take it. Jerry Jones

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does something right for a change. I don't know

00:17:28.700 --> 00:17:32.160
if Jerry Jones did anything right, but it's going

00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:38.200
to go that far. I mean, they've got the old coach

00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.259
from Green Bay. The Cowboys are never going to

00:17:41.259 --> 00:17:45.599
win a championship with him. Oh, he finally fired

00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.339
him. Oh, that's right. They have Kellen. Who's

00:17:49.339 --> 00:17:53.440
the guy, the offensive coordinator? Yeah. Oh

00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:55.440
yeah. But the, the, they brought over the guy

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that used to be the quarterback at Boise state

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back in the day. No, he's with the Eagles. Oh,

00:18:01.259 --> 00:18:04.500
he left. Yeah. No, we, we, he left, went to San

00:18:04.500 --> 00:18:06.740
Diego. Then he went to the Eagles, won a Superbowl

00:18:06.740 --> 00:18:11.380
ring. So, so yeah. Yeah. The excuse was that

00:18:11.380 --> 00:18:14.720
it was Kellen Moore, you know, not Mike McCarthy.

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And so within four years later, we ended up firing

00:18:17.500 --> 00:18:19.420
Mike McCartney. Now we've got Brian Schottenheimer

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and he's. He doesn't call his own plays. He's

00:18:22.069 --> 00:18:24.029
never been a head coach before. Yeah, it's just,

00:18:24.109 --> 00:18:28.329
you know. He's got the name. He's got the name.

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Schottenheimer was his dad, was an incredible

00:18:32.769 --> 00:18:39.269
coach. So maybe Marty Ball? Yeah. I think he

00:18:39.269 --> 00:18:43.509
was part of that whole Mike Holmgren, which was

00:18:43.509 --> 00:18:47.890
all part of really the Bill Walsh family tree.

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I think there's a better chance the Sounders

00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.900
win a cup this year than the Cowboys win two

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playoff games. I mean, that's a good segue here.

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What are you seeing from this team that you can

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take moving forward? Because as much as it's

00:19:07.339 --> 00:19:08.900
frustrating to lose that game, a point on the

00:19:08.900 --> 00:19:11.880
road is always good. And if they're going to

00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.079
continue not to lose, they're going to keep moving

00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:17.339
up the stands. It feels like... This team is

00:19:17.339 --> 00:19:19.500
clearly flawed. They're missing a goal scorer.

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But that has never stopped us before from going

00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:28.140
on a playoff run. And missing goal scorers, we

00:19:28.140 --> 00:19:34.079
typically have a defense. Yeah, I guess that's

00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:38.599
true. Hopefully the defense will be able to settle

00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.720
down as we get Yamar, Reagan, some more minutes

00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:44.500
together. Maybe we can figure out a back line.

00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.000
Question for y 'all is, speaking of the back

00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.279
line and the defense and some of the younger

00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:54.059
players we have, in the past, we've seen Brian

00:19:54.059 --> 00:19:59.240
want to pair players. For example, JP with Intensio

00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:03.099
and then having Roldan with Vargas. And so a

00:20:03.099 --> 00:20:04.900
lot of times whenever he swaps out that double

00:20:04.900 --> 00:20:06.819
pivot, he's swapping out two players because

00:20:06.819 --> 00:20:09.400
he likes them in pairs. And so I was wondering

00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:10.920
if we're going to start seeing something like

00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:15.480
that with Reed Baker Whiting and KKR. where they

00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:16.980
don't want to have them on the field at the same

00:20:16.980 --> 00:20:19.700
time because neither one of them is lights out

00:20:19.700 --> 00:20:24.180
defense. And so we may see KKR paired more with

00:20:24.180 --> 00:20:27.400
Nuhu and then maybe Alex more with Reed Baker

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-Whitey. What's y 'all's thoughts on that? Seems

00:20:34.819 --> 00:20:38.160
like sound logic to me. I also think, too, having,

00:20:38.380 --> 00:20:41.930
I mean, we saw it with Nuhu coming back. in the

00:20:41.930 --> 00:20:46.829
game from his suspension. He was in there with

00:20:46.829 --> 00:20:49.609
Kent, and they put Kent on the left side, right?

00:20:50.029 --> 00:20:54.569
So ironically, it was Nuhu who assisted the goal.

00:20:54.769 --> 00:20:59.930
But having him as kind of that safety valve when

00:20:59.930 --> 00:21:01.710
you've got somebody more offensive -minded like

00:21:01.710 --> 00:21:07.670
Kent up top seems to be a good combination. Yeah,

00:21:07.710 --> 00:21:10.410
it would be nice, too, to see, especially with

00:21:10.410 --> 00:21:14.829
League's Cup coming up, um see some uh you know

00:21:14.829 --> 00:21:18.190
some danny leva action in the midfield and you

00:21:18.190 --> 00:21:21.130
know pairing him with you know who who would

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who do you guys think would be a good regular

00:21:23.009 --> 00:21:25.230
partner for him somebody like jp just because

00:21:25.230 --> 00:21:27.930
you've got that experience i mean i actually

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but he's going to come back at some point right

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yeah but i think it's probably a longer term

00:21:34.470 --> 00:21:36.069
thing i don't think i don't think his injury

00:21:36.069 --> 00:21:38.849
is such that uh i think we talked about a last

00:21:38.849 --> 00:21:41.619
episode where his knee is intact so he can come

00:21:41.619 --> 00:21:44.859
back for sure but uh in the short term I don't

00:21:44.859 --> 00:21:46.779
think we'll see him now traditionally what they

00:21:46.779 --> 00:21:48.940
did was they put Rusnak back there with Obed

00:21:48.940 --> 00:21:53.180
uh early on when we still had Nico which they

00:21:53.180 --> 00:21:55.920
actually worked really well together so I it's

00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:58.059
interesting to see what they might do I mean

00:21:58.059 --> 00:22:00.259
you figure Danny Leyva will get some minutes

00:22:00.259 --> 00:22:05.220
who is our other center defensive mid I'm trying

00:22:05.220 --> 00:22:06.720
to think of that right now as we're sitting here

00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:12.559
I don't do we have Another without JP? No, Snyder

00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:18.900
Brunel. Oh, I think that's it. Let's see. I know

00:22:18.900 --> 00:22:20.519
that there's been a lot of chatter about him

00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:23.960
being signed, but I don't think the club's actually

00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:28.579
released it yet. Yeah. And is he ready? Is he

00:22:28.579 --> 00:22:32.539
at that level? I mean, he obviously has done

00:22:32.539 --> 00:22:36.019
it for, I was going to say Sounders 2, Tacoma

00:22:36.019 --> 00:22:40.500
Defiance. he's got to do it at a bigger level

00:22:40.500 --> 00:22:43.460
and can you put him and danny together i i do

00:22:43.460 --> 00:22:49.140
worry that you need a little more uh experience

00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:54.559
i'll say i just pulled up snyder's um page on

00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:57.599
soundersfc .com and i don't think he's old enough

00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:02.660
to drive looking at his picture here so yeah

00:23:05.150 --> 00:23:07.369
Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see. I mean,

00:23:07.390 --> 00:23:11.829
I think that's – I expect that and maybe – I

00:23:11.829 --> 00:23:13.289
think Nick and I were talking about this a little

00:23:13.289 --> 00:23:15.650
bit. Maybe this is a chance for Christian to

00:23:15.650 --> 00:23:18.829
get some breaks and we'll see more Obed in there

00:23:18.829 --> 00:23:22.710
because it's a chance for him to show up big

00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:26.250
against teams from the national team he supports,

00:23:26.529 --> 00:23:32.400
especially against Cruz Azul, which – let's continue

00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.119
this just for this first game then uh for that

00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.700
cruz azul match are you rotating the roster are

00:23:38.700 --> 00:23:41.940
you treating this like uh you would any other

00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:45.059
important game and then rotating it after that

00:23:45.059 --> 00:23:48.640
i'm rotating the roster but i'm not going crazy

00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:53.500
with it um i would like to see kkr on the right

00:23:53.500 --> 00:23:57.079
again at the right back not not the right wing

00:23:58.009 --> 00:24:01.109
You know, maybe you're starting PDLV and Kent.

00:24:01.289 --> 00:24:03.369
Jesus has had a lot of minutes here recently.

00:24:03.670 --> 00:24:05.990
Maybe that's a game where you do start Leyva

00:24:05.990 --> 00:24:08.410
at the 10 because Brian seems lately like he

00:24:08.410 --> 00:24:09.869
doesn't want to put Leyva down in the double

00:24:09.869 --> 00:24:12.190
pivot. He wants to play him at the 10. Have him

00:24:12.190 --> 00:24:15.509
come on for a roost snack. But probably the first

00:24:15.509 --> 00:24:19.109
game, a mixed lineup would be what I would do.

00:24:19.390 --> 00:24:22.609
Something that you can still think that you're

00:24:22.609 --> 00:24:26.009
going to be competitive against Cruz Azul. Probably

00:24:26.009 --> 00:24:29.170
give Moose the start. I want to see more Pedro

00:24:29.170 --> 00:24:31.869
because it's about time that he's on the field

00:24:31.869 --> 00:24:36.170
doing stuff. Free Pedro. I think it would be

00:24:36.170 --> 00:24:42.289
fun to see Pedro, Jesus, and Keanu George all

00:24:42.289 --> 00:24:44.470
up top. And then, like you said, with Rusnak

00:24:44.470 --> 00:24:48.710
dropped back down to the double pivot. But, you

00:24:48.710 --> 00:24:50.549
know, you've got to be careful taking away what

00:24:50.549 --> 00:24:53.930
Rusnak does because he does it so well. Yeah,

00:24:53.990 --> 00:24:57.710
that's all our assists pretty much since the

00:24:57.710 --> 00:25:03.089
areola injury. Not literally, but it feels like

00:25:03.089 --> 00:25:07.970
it. Yeah, there might be more of a softer landing

00:25:07.970 --> 00:25:12.829
coming up. Softer than Cruz Azul if they want

00:25:12.829 --> 00:25:16.509
to start playing Danny at the 10. Because even

00:25:16.509 --> 00:25:19.950
though Cruz Azul's season has just started, I

00:25:19.950 --> 00:25:23.569
mean, they're only three match days in. They're

00:25:23.569 --> 00:25:30.390
a great team, and they're undefeated in their

00:25:30.390 --> 00:25:35.950
league. Was it one win, two draws? Yeah. So they're

00:25:35.950 --> 00:25:40.130
a really good team. But I do agree with Dan on

00:25:40.130 --> 00:25:43.410
the rotation. Yeah, keep Pedro in there starting

00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:48.730
because you want to just let him build that momentum

00:25:48.730 --> 00:25:51.450
that he's got going, especially against really

00:25:51.450 --> 00:25:56.390
good competition. But some of these guys do need

00:25:56.390 --> 00:26:01.390
a break for sure. Yeah. Why don't we take a break

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00:27:51.069 --> 00:28:09.710
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00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:14.130
there, Cedar? I have got in my hand, I've got

00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:19.829
Monterey beer. It's an offering from Alvarado

00:28:19.829 --> 00:28:21.930
Street. Oh, yeah. So what you're drinking last

00:28:21.930 --> 00:28:25.490
week, right? Last episode. Yeah. And yeah, it's

00:28:25.490 --> 00:28:28.710
good. I love anything by Alvarado Street. They

00:28:28.710 --> 00:28:32.750
do an incredible job. And yeah, it's a really

00:28:32.750 --> 00:28:35.750
good lager. It's similar to like a Miller High

00:28:35.750 --> 00:28:39.380
Life, but. A little bit. It's got a little bit

00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:41.339
more of a bite to it. It's a little bit breadier.

00:28:41.460 --> 00:28:45.920
So I like it. Very nice. Very nice. So we were

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.319
talking about Sounders changes, but I think that

00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.119
leads us perfectly into a discussion of leagues

00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.140
cup coming up here. We've got three matches.

00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.480
First match against Cruz Azul. Second match against,

00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.519
I'm forgetting it. Third match against Tijuana.

00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.119
The professionals here at Sounders scuttlebutt.

00:29:06.509 --> 00:29:12.150
the the uh both uh the schedule for the sounders

00:29:12.150 --> 00:29:16.789
the games are against lesser lesser might not

00:29:16.789 --> 00:29:20.130
be the right word uh but they they're against

00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:24.869
teams that are should be beatable uh santos laguna

00:29:24.869 --> 00:29:27.509
that's right who who has had some great times

00:29:27.509 --> 00:29:31.930
in the past uh but what do you do you think this

00:29:31.930 --> 00:29:35.640
is we can do a little bit of uh shifting of the

00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.539
offense or the the lineup in this match and then

00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:42.599
this against Cruz Azul on Thursday and then for

00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.579
Sunday and Wednesday's matches we can really

00:29:45.579 --> 00:29:47.660
shift them because we should beat those teams

00:29:47.660 --> 00:29:51.859
with maybe not our backups but more of our non

00:29:51.859 --> 00:29:57.180
-starters I think you're just going to have to

00:29:57.180 --> 00:30:00.880
do it for the betterment of MLS, which has to

00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.839
be your top priority at this point, especially

00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.900
where we're sitting at the table. And, you know,

00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:08.019
the team knows their stats for the home and away

00:30:08.019 --> 00:30:10.299
losses, too. And they know that they're scoring

00:30:10.299 --> 00:30:12.900
more at home. They're defending better at home

00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:15.420
and just get as close as we can to having as

00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.380
many home playoff games. Yeah, do some rotation,

00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.920
do some rest, especially with the way that the

00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:26.710
League's Cup is going to be. To get to the next

00:30:26.710 --> 00:30:28.809
round, it's going to be your points compared

00:30:28.809 --> 00:30:32.250
to all the other MLS clubs. So it may not be

00:30:32.250 --> 00:30:34.130
super easy to get out. You're probably going

00:30:34.130 --> 00:30:37.829
to have to win all three. I have a feeling, depending

00:30:37.829 --> 00:30:41.769
on how MLS does, the Sounders, I think, could

00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:45.690
get out with a draw and two wins. Yeah, do some

00:30:45.690 --> 00:30:49.309
rotation. Let some of these younger players...

00:30:49.630 --> 00:30:53.009
get out there. And maybe we'll even see Dino

00:30:53.009 --> 00:30:54.809
for like an entire game. Wouldn't that be cool

00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:57.130
to see him play the entire game against Tijuana?

00:30:59.490 --> 00:31:01.970
It'd be interesting to see. I don't know if I'm

00:31:01.970 --> 00:31:04.150
there yet, but I also have not watched him play

00:31:04.150 --> 00:31:09.109
at Defiance. So for me, it's scary enough having

00:31:09.109 --> 00:31:13.289
to start Moose up there. As great as he's been.

00:31:14.509 --> 00:31:16.890
You know what I mean? Like, I want someone who

00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:19.950
can score, which he's proving he can, and he's

00:31:19.950 --> 00:31:22.029
proved it all season. But he did have that stretch

00:31:22.029 --> 00:31:23.970
of 11 games where he didn't have any goals. So

00:31:23.970 --> 00:31:27.210
we need something up top. He's going to need

00:31:27.210 --> 00:31:30.349
a break, though, right? You know, Moose is going

00:31:30.349 --> 00:31:33.470
to need a break. And he had some earlier this

00:31:33.470 --> 00:31:36.230
year, there was some injury concerns. I think

00:31:36.230 --> 00:31:38.309
he missed a game for an injury, too. We started

00:31:38.309 --> 00:31:40.950
Georgie up top that game that he missed. Yeah.

00:31:41.150 --> 00:31:44.450
And that ended up being a bad one. No, not good.

00:31:45.029 --> 00:31:47.410
It's not something we apparently will be repeating

00:31:47.410 --> 00:31:56.329
from what I can tell. Let's shift then, and then

00:31:56.329 --> 00:32:01.410
we'll come back to Leagues Cup. Noah, Ohio. A

00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:07.089
potential forward signing. Let's assume it happens.

00:32:07.230 --> 00:32:09.069
Let's just say it happens. What are you two thinking

00:32:09.069 --> 00:32:11.430
in terms of it will even have an impact? I mean,

00:32:11.450 --> 00:32:14.079
by the time... We have 10 games left in the regular

00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.779
season. Thankfully, this tournament pushes it

00:32:16.779 --> 00:32:21.240
back a little bit. But will he even be able to

00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.799
come in and have any impact this season? Or are

00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:30.740
we just rolling with Moose and baby D -Ro? I

00:32:30.740 --> 00:32:34.559
think if he comes in, there would be plenty of

00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.740
minutes for him. I mean, he's got kind of the

00:32:38.740 --> 00:32:42.730
physical profile of D -Ro. He's about... Half

00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:46.829
an inch shorter, but he's a sizable dude, 172

00:32:46.829 --> 00:32:51.529
pounds, 6 '1". And just looking quickly at FB

00:32:51.529 --> 00:32:57.049
Ref, not diving into it super deep, but the similar

00:32:57.049 --> 00:33:01.230
players to him that they have in their own internal

00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:03.809
models. I'm looking at a few of these names here.

00:33:04.349 --> 00:33:08.150
He's comparable to Tani Oluwase from Minnesota

00:33:08.150 --> 00:33:11.900
United, who we saw score. what, one or two goals

00:33:11.900 --> 00:33:15.579
against us this year. Sam Surridge on Nashville,

00:33:15.740 --> 00:33:18.920
I think he leads the Golden Boot race. And then

00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.779
Hugo Kuypers, who's playing for Chicago Fire,

00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.059
and he's also up there in the Golden Boot race.

00:33:25.180 --> 00:33:29.019
So getting a guy of that profile, he's bigger,

00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.309
he can score goals. I think there are plenty

00:33:32.309 --> 00:33:34.309
of minutes for him, especially cause you know,

00:33:34.329 --> 00:33:38.349
I, I don't look, we're not, if we're not, I really

00:33:38.349 --> 00:33:40.609
don't think we're going to make a deep run and

00:33:40.609 --> 00:33:47.089
win MLS cup. If we only have Musafsky and baby

00:33:47.089 --> 00:33:51.529
D row up top. I mean, Jordan, there's a chance

00:33:51.529 --> 00:33:53.769
for him to come back, but we'd have no idea right

00:33:53.769 --> 00:33:57.869
now. So yeah, I would, I could totally see Ohio

00:33:57.869 --> 00:34:03.359
coming in and. and make it an impact. I'm going

00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.000
to play a little bit of devil's advocate with

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:10.679
you. I'm going to say this transfer here with

00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.059
Noah is looking more towards next year than anything

00:34:14.059 --> 00:34:16.780
this year. And I think any minutes, if he does

00:34:16.780 --> 00:34:19.639
come in, it still looks like it's 50 -50. If

00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.099
he does come in, we know that... For whatever

00:34:23.099 --> 00:34:25.500
reason, players tend to have a hard time, at

00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:27.519
least recently, coming in and adjusting to what

00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.159
we're doing on the field. We've had several players

00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.559
come in and just take a long time to get started.

00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:34.900
We thought Kent was going to bust that trend,

00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.880
and as it turns out, he has not. It's not unique

00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.300
to the Sounders, by the way. We've seen that.

00:34:41.820 --> 00:34:44.780
Summer transfers don't have an impact, typically.

00:34:45.619 --> 00:34:48.099
If you make a playoff run, maybe later in the

00:34:48.099 --> 00:34:50.159
playoffs, but not during the regular season,

00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:53.880
for sure. But San Diego takes time to get adjusted,

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.260
and San Diego can put a team together overnight

00:34:56.260 --> 00:35:00.300
and just go and win all the games. So it's for

00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:04.559
them. But that and just also I think Brian has

00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.360
reluctance to play players that he just does

00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.559
not have full faith in. And so if Noah hasn't

00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.059
had the time to build that faith with Brian,

00:35:14.179 --> 00:35:16.880
I think that Brian's going to be more reluctant

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.940
to put him in. Now, with that said, I think that

00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:23.940
Noah Ohio has the exact profile that you would

00:35:23.940 --> 00:35:26.820
want for the scheme that Brian wants to run.

00:35:27.739 --> 00:35:32.420
And so I think that we could be seeing maybe

00:35:32.420 --> 00:35:37.539
next year Noah Ohio maybe doing some things and

00:35:37.539 --> 00:35:40.579
getting integrated into the Sounders offense.

00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.800
But I don't think that he would be a saving piece

00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:50.360
this year. Yeah. And I wonder how long it even

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.860
takes to bring him here, obviously. And this

00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:56.099
is, again, not that we don't ever get political,

00:35:56.139 --> 00:36:01.659
but being political exists. And who is president

00:36:01.659 --> 00:36:05.679
changes how long it takes to get visas. He does

00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.380
have UK citizenship as well. So maybe that makes

00:36:08.380 --> 00:36:11.000
it a little bit easier. I could see Trump not

00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.920
realizing that Netherlands is part of Europe.

00:36:14.889 --> 00:36:20.849
It's an interesting thought where how long will

00:36:20.849 --> 00:36:22.909
it even take them to be registered and get here?

00:36:23.090 --> 00:36:26.889
And so getting just the minutes and used to the

00:36:26.889 --> 00:36:29.969
players when you only have 10 games left, it

00:36:29.969 --> 00:36:33.510
will be tough. Yeah, our administration blocked

00:36:33.510 --> 00:36:35.929
the entire Little League team from coming and

00:36:35.929 --> 00:36:39.550
playing. That's just heartless. That just happened,

00:36:39.670 --> 00:36:42.860
yeah. That's not even the worst thing they've

00:36:42.860 --> 00:36:49.039
done today. That is accurate. But yeah, I mean,

00:36:49.059 --> 00:36:54.960
it certainly is a concern. I think people are

00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.340
also concerned about it around the World Cup.

00:36:57.699 --> 00:36:59.780
I kind of don't think it's going to be a concern

00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:01.500
for the World Cup. I think they're going to pull

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:03.320
back enforcement. And the reason I believe that

00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:09.539
is Infantino is friends with Trump. When we were

00:37:09.539 --> 00:37:11.800
working on the human rights framework that made

00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.400
it all the way up to their number two and approved

00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.639
it and then Infantino shut it down, I mean, we

00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.300
knew very well that they were rooting for Trump

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:21.139
to win the election because it was going to do

00:37:21.139 --> 00:37:27.500
good things for FIFA. So, yeah, it's interesting

00:37:27.500 --> 00:37:29.980
because you would think their job would be to

00:37:29.980 --> 00:37:32.039
get fans into the country to watch their premier

00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.820
event, but that's not really what they care about.

00:37:35.260 --> 00:37:37.119
You mean they would rather have a president they

00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:45.260
can bribe? A club winner trophy. My next question

00:37:45.260 --> 00:37:48.639
is, does Trump get to keep the World Cup trophy

00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:50.860
like he did with the Club World Cup? Maybe that's

00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:53.840
a bribe. I mean, it's not the original anyways.

00:37:54.019 --> 00:37:58.460
The original was stolen in Brazil, so it is already

00:37:58.460 --> 00:38:02.739
a replica. It's a really big trophy, right? Yeah.

00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:05.099
but yeah well then they can just put it on top

00:38:05.099 --> 00:38:07.280
of the box with the epstein files and then nobody

00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.820
can get into it because the trophy will be too

00:38:08.820 --> 00:38:15.739
big yeah so i i mean i i don't think it's i honestly

00:38:15.739 --> 00:38:18.079
don't think it's going to affect the the world

00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:20.079
cup because i think they will pull back on some

00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.440
of the enforcement the way they're already talking

00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.079
about creating a brassero like program for workers

00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.639
and stuff like that uh my guess is that they

00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.710
next summer I think they'll still have operations

00:38:32.710 --> 00:38:35.369
in order to go get people, but it won't be the

00:38:35.369 --> 00:38:37.030
fans that are coming into the country to watch

00:38:37.030 --> 00:38:41.110
the games. It's Beaseless, right? So they're

00:38:41.110 --> 00:38:42.949
not going to go kick people out there at a soccer

00:38:42.949 --> 00:38:45.369
game who are from a different country and are

00:38:45.369 --> 00:38:47.429
just coming to visit. They'll go after people

00:38:47.429 --> 00:38:51.190
who should be here and they don't want here,

00:38:51.329 --> 00:38:53.670
unfortunately. Going after people contributing

00:38:53.670 --> 00:38:56.590
to our society and some of the ways that the

00:38:56.590 --> 00:39:01.840
rest of us don't want to. Getting back on to

00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.800
the NOAA Ohio thing, you have a sense of where

00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.300
we're at right now in the negotiations. Going

00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:13.380
off of what I've read on Blue Sky and some of

00:39:13.380 --> 00:39:16.599
the other reporting about it is that we already

00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:20.099
have a transfer bill agreed to and we're waiting

00:39:20.099 --> 00:39:24.159
on NOAA Ohio to agree to terms and accept. Is

00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.969
that where you're thinking we're at too? Yeah,

00:39:26.989 --> 00:39:29.090
that's, I mean, just saying from reading the

00:39:29.090 --> 00:39:31.929
reports and it seems like, yes, that's the case.

00:39:32.110 --> 00:39:34.849
And I mean, obviously he'd then have to pass

00:39:34.849 --> 00:39:39.269
a physical and then get the visa before he could

00:39:39.269 --> 00:39:43.070
play. But my guess is it'll come down to whether

00:39:43.070 --> 00:39:45.929
or not he thinks it's good for his career to

00:39:45.929 --> 00:39:48.590
come here. Things are working in our favor with

00:39:48.590 --> 00:39:52.570
him only getting 10 minutes in EuroLeague last

00:39:52.570 --> 00:39:56.159
week. So if he's not getting minutes, he doesn't

00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:58.579
want to be at his regular club. So maybe that's

00:39:58.579 --> 00:40:01.820
where you send Ryan Kent out to do a little conversation

00:40:01.820 --> 00:40:04.159
with him. Because even though Ryan hasn't had

00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:08.219
the best run here for a bit, I mean, I think

00:40:08.219 --> 00:40:10.300
he knows perfectly well this is an opportunity

00:40:10.300 --> 00:40:12.099
for him. And it would be the same thing for Noah

00:40:12.099 --> 00:40:14.119
Ohio. You come in, you dominate, you're going

00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.039
to be able to go to whatever club you want in

00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:18.960
Europe. I mean, not the Barcelonas, but you know

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.900
what I mean. Realistically, you're going to be

00:40:20.900 --> 00:40:24.199
able to go to a Premier League team a Syria team

00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.239
or where you want to go in terms of the league

00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.760
in order to continue your, your trajectory up.

00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.500
Go for it. No, go ahead. Cause this kind of moves

00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:37.980
the conversation along. So if you want to add

00:40:37.980 --> 00:40:42.199
more to no Ohio coming here, I was just going

00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.320
to say, I mean, he's from the Netherlands, you

00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.760
know, weed is legal in the state of Washington.

00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.099
So, you know, you're not going to get that everywhere

00:40:49.099 --> 00:40:54.380
in the U S so come on down. I'll, I'll, I'll

00:40:54.380 --> 00:40:58.400
meet him with a gift. Let's go. Yeah. We'll,

00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.500
we'll bring out the welcome wagon for older.

00:41:02.739 --> 00:41:05.099
That's amazing. We just, players are showing

00:41:05.099 --> 00:41:09.400
up and we're here like here. Enjoy. I don't think

00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.059
Brian would be too happy. Oh no, he would be.

00:41:12.099 --> 00:41:14.659
I'm sure he would be really angry. I'm assuming

00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:16.980
that there's, I don't know. Is there drug testing

00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:20.610
in the MLS? Oh, I don't know. But I just wonder

00:41:20.610 --> 00:41:24.130
about internal team expectations, right? Like,

00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:27.570
hey, save it for the offseason, something like

00:41:27.570 --> 00:41:30.809
that. I have no idea how that goes. The thing

00:41:30.809 --> 00:41:34.730
that I've never heard of a MLS player suspended

00:41:34.730 --> 00:41:37.530
over cannabis, I'm going to say probably not,

00:41:37.670 --> 00:41:40.489
because cannabis use is pretty widespread. You

00:41:40.489 --> 00:41:43.190
follow the WADA list of prohibited substances,

00:41:43.489 --> 00:41:47.889
so... Oh, okay, okay. Which means they... it's

00:41:47.889 --> 00:41:51.550
probably does not include let's see here uh the

00:41:51.550 --> 00:41:56.369
2025 prohibited list that is now enforced includes

00:41:56.369 --> 00:42:03.449
uh well it's a lot of it's a lot of stuff that

00:42:03.449 --> 00:42:05.610
are uh it has the potential potential to enhance

00:42:05.610 --> 00:42:07.869
or enhance sport performance well that's not

00:42:07.869 --> 00:42:10.869
weed it represents an actual or potential health

00:42:10.869 --> 00:42:13.559
risk to the athletes Probably not, but it depends

00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.880
on who you're talking to. It violates the spirit

00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.739
of the sport. Oh, no way. So just based on those

00:42:18.739 --> 00:42:21.719
three, I think it's probably safe. There you

00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:27.559
go. I think the only athlete that I know of that

00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.300
weed has ever helped enhance their performance

00:42:30.300 --> 00:42:34.579
was probably Big Smooth, Sam Perkins. Although

00:42:34.579 --> 00:42:37.440
I've heard from friends of his that he doesn't

00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.250
actually smoke weed. But I would be shocked because

00:42:40.250 --> 00:42:45.369
I've been at a Sonics game where Sam Perkins

00:42:45.369 --> 00:42:48.750
was missing every three and he was all like fidgety.

00:42:48.750 --> 00:42:50.610
And then he came out in the second half and his

00:42:50.610 --> 00:42:53.289
eyes were shut and he just had the slowest shot

00:42:53.289 --> 00:42:56.849
ever. And it would just go in. Oh, that's pretty

00:42:56.849 --> 00:43:02.530
smooth. Makes you wonder. Yeah, yeah. I mean,

00:43:02.550 --> 00:43:07.250
Ricky Williams. of the university of texas who

00:43:07.250 --> 00:43:11.190
went on to play for miami uh he gave up his football

00:43:11.190 --> 00:43:14.150
career for weed essentially i mean it was not

00:43:14.150 --> 00:43:17.429
exactly like that he used it for medical reasons

00:43:17.429 --> 00:43:20.809
or anxiety and things like that but uh in the

00:43:20.809 --> 00:43:22.829
end he couldn't stop smoking it long enough to

00:43:22.829 --> 00:43:25.190
stay in the league uh although marshall and this

00:43:25.190 --> 00:43:27.489
is the funny part that's probably healthier than

00:43:27.489 --> 00:43:29.750
marshall taking shots before he would go out

00:43:29.750 --> 00:43:34.750
and play every game So Marshawn knew he was going

00:43:34.750 --> 00:43:36.809
to go get his body smashed. He had to, he had

00:43:36.809 --> 00:43:40.170
to get a little, little lit to get out there.

00:43:40.269 --> 00:43:48.449
So. So my follow -up question for Noah, Ohio,

00:43:48.650 --> 00:43:51.949
then is this seems pretty similar to where we

00:43:51.949 --> 00:43:55.510
were last year with a, a, a deal to bring a player

00:43:55.510 --> 00:43:58.610
in and then to the player. And now if Noah decides

00:43:58.610 --> 00:44:01.099
like, Hey, I don't want to come. Do we talk about

00:44:01.099 --> 00:44:05.579
Bragg's deal and convincing these players to

00:44:05.579 --> 00:44:10.159
come here once the deal is done? I mean, I've

00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:14.579
got to assume he's not the only player on their

00:44:14.579 --> 00:44:20.440
list, right? They're never going after just one

00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:28.159
player. That's just the one we know about. Yeah.

00:44:28.570 --> 00:44:31.329
Yeah, and you got to hope that, like, because

00:44:31.329 --> 00:44:33.730
I think that's kind of what happened last year

00:44:33.730 --> 00:44:35.750
when nothing happened was it's like, oh, they

00:44:35.750 --> 00:44:38.550
had a few targets, but, you know, everything

00:44:38.550 --> 00:44:40.969
fell through, right? I mean, it's got to be tricky

00:44:40.969 --> 00:44:44.030
if you're pursuing your main target, you know,

00:44:44.050 --> 00:44:47.789
putting all your intention into one avenue and

00:44:47.789 --> 00:44:50.170
then maybe that fizzles out and then you missed

00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:53.510
your window on something that was also attainable,

00:44:53.550 --> 00:44:55.969
but now, you know, the ship has sailed. It's

00:44:55.969 --> 00:44:59.289
got to be. a really stressful time in the front

00:44:59.289 --> 00:45:03.230
office. Speaking of stressful, cannabinoids are

00:45:03.230 --> 00:45:07.630
banned under the World Doping Agency's list.

00:45:07.869 --> 00:45:11.110
So I wonder if they really do enforce it as much

00:45:11.110 --> 00:45:16.150
as they say. There goes my soccer career. Yeah.

00:45:17.389 --> 00:45:21.610
No, I mean, you have to convince them that they

00:45:21.610 --> 00:45:25.039
want to come here, right? I think the Seattle

00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.739
is the easy sell. It's the ego that is the hard

00:45:28.739 --> 00:45:30.980
sell. Last summer, we were trying to get two

00:45:30.980 --> 00:45:33.960
different players on loan, not trying to get

00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.260
both, but one or the other, from what I recall

00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:40.420
Craig saying publicly. And we just couldn't convince

00:45:40.420 --> 00:45:42.440
them that they wanted to come to the United States

00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.199
and end their career in Europe. Because in some

00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.139
places, there's still the perception that this

00:45:47.139 --> 00:45:48.760
is the retirement league. If you're coming here,

00:45:48.900 --> 00:45:51.820
you're giving up. But there's other players that

00:45:51.820 --> 00:45:54.460
know, especially... if you're from south america

00:45:54.460 --> 00:45:56.780
this is that step to the next level especially

00:45:56.780 --> 00:45:58.699
with a team like seattle where if you can come

00:45:58.699 --> 00:46:04.559
in and shine and turn into raul uh man the door

00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:12.619
is the door is open for you yeah the shock the

00:46:12.619 --> 00:46:14.840
shotgun cedar's faces he's contemplating that

00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:20.739
absolutely and i mean look he's he's in he's

00:46:20.739 --> 00:46:25.590
uh Utrecht in the Eredivisie right now. And how

00:46:25.590 --> 00:46:26.989
are they doing? Let's see how they're doing.

00:46:27.929 --> 00:46:30.429
I don't, I mean, they're, they're probably, it's

00:46:30.429 --> 00:46:32.289
probably, they're probably second or third. I

00:46:32.289 --> 00:46:35.849
mean, they're probably right behind, uh, uh,

00:46:35.929 --> 00:46:39.289
Ajax is normally. Okay. So they were, they ended

00:46:39.289 --> 00:46:43.250
up being fourth. Oh, you know, which is, which

00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:47.769
is, you know, PSV Eindhoven was one, Ajax two,

00:46:47.869 --> 00:46:51.920
Firenorn, and then they were fourth. Okay. Okay.

00:46:53.219 --> 00:46:57.420
In seventh was a team called Go Ahead Eagles.

00:46:58.260 --> 00:47:02.980
I like that. I like the whole phrase as your

00:47:02.980 --> 00:47:07.599
team name. That's interesting. Their Europa League

00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.599
match was against Sheriff, which is... Are they...

00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:17.219
Ukraine? No, Moldova. Moldovan team. I guess

00:47:17.219 --> 00:47:18.739
Ukraine probably doesn't have a league right

00:47:18.739 --> 00:47:21.679
now, if I would have had to guess, since they

00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:27.420
are still at war. But they played Sheriff and

00:47:27.420 --> 00:47:31.280
they won three to one. And that was the match

00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:35.699
where no Ohio subbed in and only got, was it

00:47:35.699 --> 00:47:39.860
11 minutes, 10 minutes? So it'll be interesting

00:47:39.860 --> 00:47:42.719
to see. That's his only, I think this is only

00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:44.099
match of the year because they're in preseason.

00:47:46.769 --> 00:47:49.929
Maybe he doesn't want to come to the United States

00:47:49.929 --> 00:47:54.730
because the leading goal scorer on his team,

00:47:54.849 --> 00:47:56.929
and he's a forward, but the leading goal scorer

00:47:56.929 --> 00:48:02.489
is American Paxton Aronson, who's 21. He's 5

00:48:02.489 --> 00:48:09.349
'6", and 139 pounds. That is a little man. He's

00:48:09.349 --> 00:48:12.630
a tiny man, and that team's leading goal scorer.

00:48:14.829 --> 00:48:17.230
maybe knows like no no no i can't i can't go

00:48:17.230 --> 00:48:20.110
to america i gotta stay in europe because that's

00:48:20.110 --> 00:48:23.730
eventually where i want to end up but who knows

00:48:23.730 --> 00:48:26.969
i i if he wants to come here then i want him

00:48:26.969 --> 00:48:28.329
to come here if he doesn't want to come here

00:48:28.329 --> 00:48:32.309
then you know i don't want him he just doesn't

00:48:32.309 --> 00:48:35.210
know right plus think about it he will be he

00:48:35.210 --> 00:48:37.610
has a state named after him he can he can go

00:48:37.610 --> 00:48:41.469
to cincinnati or or uh Is there another Columbus

00:48:41.469 --> 00:48:45.010
and will be a legend after he's done winning

00:48:45.010 --> 00:48:49.510
us several championships? Well, clearly we need

00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.730
to have an MLS Cup against either Cincinnati

00:48:52.730 --> 00:48:56.570
or Columbus and have him score the game -winning

00:48:56.570 --> 00:49:00.670
goal so that he truly owns Ohio. I can't live

00:49:00.670 --> 00:49:03.309
through another final versus Columbus, that 2021.

00:49:03.590 --> 00:49:06.550
Cincinnati, give us Cincinnati. Yeah, that would

00:49:06.550 --> 00:49:08.489
be a tough game, though. I would worry about

00:49:08.489 --> 00:49:12.699
that. It would be tough. They're both really

00:49:12.699 --> 00:49:18.139
good. Yeah, but I hope something happens. I hope

00:49:18.139 --> 00:49:22.260
all our eggs are not in this one basket, that

00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:24.760
we have other U -22s in mind if this doesn't

00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:29.460
work out. But I also think if we do, perhaps

00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:33.679
it's not. another player. It'll be similar where

00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:35.519
they're not going to impact us this season. It's

00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.699
more for down the road. Same as Leo Chu, right?

00:49:37.739 --> 00:49:39.440
Leo Chu was not a player that was meant to come

00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.340
in and impact us immediately. And sadly, he didn't

00:49:44.340 --> 00:49:47.019
really impact us at all. He had some great games,

00:49:47.059 --> 00:49:50.039
but was never consistently, never came in and

00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.340
consistently got that starting job. Even though

00:49:52.340 --> 00:49:59.760
he's off to Portugal now. Yeah. That's a good

00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.900
question. Did we, did we retain any because we

00:50:02.900 --> 00:50:09.659
traded him? Yes, we retained a lot. So he plays

00:50:09.659 --> 00:50:14.639
for Alverca. I don't speak Portuguese, so I don't

00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:19.340
know if there's a thing there, but he got sent

00:50:19.340 --> 00:50:23.539
over to FC Alverca. Complexo Deportivo FC Alverca

00:50:23.539 --> 00:50:29.860
is their stadium in Alverca do Ribatejo in Portugal.

00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.980
He is, last year they were in League 2, and they

00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:37.320
got second, and they were promoted to League

00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:42.039
1. So they brought him over from Dallas. Interesting.

00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:46.940
Nice. Add some cash to Splash, huh? Yeah, and

00:50:46.940 --> 00:50:48.659
that's good. I mean, he wasn't really playing

00:50:48.659 --> 00:50:54.380
much. Oh, Vinicius Jr. is owner of that team.

00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:00.670
Oh, interesting. He and his partners own 70 %

00:51:00.670 --> 00:51:04.989
to 80 % of shares for only $10 million. Guys,

00:51:05.130 --> 00:51:08.789
let's put together a business plan and buy Scuttlebutt

00:51:08.789 --> 00:51:14.889
Ultra's team in Europe somewhere. I feel like

00:51:14.889 --> 00:51:16.710
we could put a plan together and get $10 million

00:51:16.710 --> 00:51:19.869
in investment money. Yeah, barely an inconvenience.

00:51:20.710 --> 00:51:25.909
I mean, we can sell it as the next Wrexham. where

00:51:25.909 --> 00:51:29.289
okay where if if you could like anywhere in europe

00:51:29.289 --> 00:51:32.050
where would you want to own a club or be a part

00:51:32.050 --> 00:51:34.889
owner so that you could have a really good excuse

00:51:34.889 --> 00:51:36.849
to just be there all the time like what's like

00:51:36.849 --> 00:51:39.889
the best area for each of you guys i mean having

00:51:39.889 --> 00:51:41.829
lived in paris i'd want to do paris but they

00:51:41.829 --> 00:51:44.489
already have two first flight teams now with

00:51:44.489 --> 00:51:47.710
paris fc the red bulls team uh they're in the

00:51:47.710 --> 00:51:51.590
red bulls family Red Bull, excuse me. Now they're

00:51:51.590 --> 00:51:53.250
playing right next to Parc de France. So they

00:51:53.250 --> 00:51:55.050
have like two stadiums right next to each other.

00:51:56.909 --> 00:52:01.050
That's awesome. But gosh, that would be fun to

00:52:01.050 --> 00:52:03.590
have a third team come through in Paris. In fact,

00:52:03.610 --> 00:52:07.170
maybe they're wanting it because they're like,

00:52:07.230 --> 00:52:08.909
yeah, we don't care about first division soccer.

00:52:09.030 --> 00:52:10.989
We want those underdog, you know, because let

00:52:10.989 --> 00:52:12.829
me tell you, as someone who works for a minor

00:52:12.829 --> 00:52:15.869
league basketball team. You get way more access

00:52:15.869 --> 00:52:17.889
to the players as a fan. You're there. It's more

00:52:17.889 --> 00:52:20.469
fun. You feel like you know the players. Anyone

00:52:20.469 --> 00:52:23.489
who's a Home of Defiance fan knows what it's

00:52:23.489 --> 00:52:27.610
like. I think somewhere in France, maybe Western

00:52:27.610 --> 00:52:30.989
France. Let's do like Britannia area because

00:52:30.989 --> 00:52:33.329
then you can easily get across into England and

00:52:33.329 --> 00:52:38.449
Ireland and stuff like that. Or straight to Ireland

00:52:38.449 --> 00:52:41.440
where they only get... two or three thousand

00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.980
fans a game unless you're shamrock rovers but

00:52:43.980 --> 00:52:46.340
i feel like you could build a fan base in a city

00:52:46.340 --> 00:52:49.659
that maybe has never had a huge fan base and

00:52:49.659 --> 00:52:54.659
and run yeah that would be fun i've never been

00:52:54.659 --> 00:52:58.860
to ireland but i have not either i which is insane

00:52:58.860 --> 00:53:03.159
considering i'm 83 irish but You got to go. You're

00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:05.699
going to find your way. My relative is one of

00:53:05.699 --> 00:53:07.659
the most famous Irishmen of all time, Michael

00:53:07.659 --> 00:53:11.860
Collins. So I should be there. But my family

00:53:11.860 --> 00:53:15.760
fled during the potato genocide, potato famine.

00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:20.760
What about you, Dan? What country are you moving

00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.519
to? Where are we taking your family and uprooting

00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:26.900
them across the world? I would love to go to

00:53:26.900 --> 00:53:31.269
the UK. I had an assignment to the UK. When I

00:53:31.269 --> 00:53:33.849
was in the military and it got turned off and

00:53:33.849 --> 00:53:39.289
I am still six years after that bitter. I'll

00:53:39.289 --> 00:53:42.269
tell you about it after, after the cameras are

00:53:42.269 --> 00:53:45.250
off, but it pissed me off and it'll probably

00:53:45.250 --> 00:53:49.250
piss you off too. Well, you might not be a Sounders

00:53:49.250 --> 00:53:53.610
fan if you had gone there. You know, this is

00:53:53.610 --> 00:53:55.130
where we were always going to come back and retire.

00:53:55.349 --> 00:54:00.219
So yeah, maybe we'll, you know, see. If they

00:54:00.219 --> 00:54:03.119
could buy or get into a club, I think 4th Green

00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:04.699
Rovers would be the one that I would want to

00:54:04.699 --> 00:54:07.639
get into. Yeah, that's my club. I love their

00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:12.139
values and it just seems like a cool club. They're

00:54:12.139 --> 00:54:15.719
not great at soccer, but that's okay. They had

00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.219
that run. They got up to League 1 and then got

00:54:20.219 --> 00:54:22.480
relegated to League 2 and then got relegated

00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.260
down to the National League and almost made it

00:54:25.260 --> 00:54:28.340
out of the National League. I do have a closet

00:54:28.340 --> 00:54:30.900
full of Forest Green Rovers jerseys. Their new

00:54:30.900 --> 00:54:33.300
kits are pretty wild. If you haven't seen them,

00:54:33.340 --> 00:54:35.739
cheetah print. I'm not a huge fan of them, but

00:54:35.739 --> 00:54:38.860
I think it's a cool club. It's a cool business

00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:42.059
model. And hopefully they make it back and start

00:54:42.059 --> 00:54:44.579
playing good soccer one day. Yeah, they unfortunately

00:54:44.579 --> 00:54:47.760
went the opposite direction of Wrexham. That

00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.500
was tough. I was very excited. And I think that's

00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:54.460
a fan base. It would be really... fun and easy

00:54:54.460 --> 00:54:57.659
to get involved with. I've been just rooting

00:54:57.659 --> 00:55:00.820
for them from here, which originally it was because

00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:05.219
I liked their jerseys on FIFA. And then I found

00:55:05.219 --> 00:55:06.880
out about the club and what they stood for and

00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.920
all that kind of stuff. And the only actually

00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.880
carbon neutral team, they don't buy, they don't

00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.760
do the cap and trade stuff. They actually plant

00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.800
trees around their stadium. of course a vegan

00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:24.440
team uh i i am in big support of them so uh their

00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.380
their fans have you know reached out to me on

00:55:27.380 --> 00:55:30.360
uh twitter and welcomed me to to rooting for

00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:33.019
the team too so i think they're a very much a

00:55:33.019 --> 00:55:35.980
uh at least the younger fans are very much everyone

00:55:35.980 --> 00:55:38.559
welcome the older fans are like let's stop this

00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:42.360
vegan and get back to playing games because uh

00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:44.420
that's what happens when we get old uh that's

00:55:44.420 --> 00:55:46.139
that's how i feel about young people music these

00:55:46.139 --> 00:55:53.739
days Just the words, young people music. I mean,

00:55:53.760 --> 00:56:00.039
let me tell you. Gosh, we're probably going to

00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.079
get canceled for this. Chapel Roan is not very

00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:08.079
good. I'm neutral, honestly. She has the same

00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.219
songwriter as Olivia Rodrigo, who wrote one of

00:56:11.219 --> 00:56:14.599
the best rock albums of the last decade on her

00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:20.429
Guts album. And, God, they seem cool to sing

00:56:20.429 --> 00:56:24.110
along to in a crowd, but as songs, boring as

00:56:24.110 --> 00:56:30.289
fuck. Don't like them. Don't like them. My little

00:56:30.289 --> 00:56:33.889
girl has really gotten into Olivia Rodrigo, and

00:56:33.889 --> 00:56:37.230
every single song is about breaking up with a

00:56:37.230 --> 00:56:39.769
guy and wanting the guy back. Every single song.

00:56:39.869 --> 00:56:42.289
I mean, they're catchy, they're fun, but, yeah,

00:56:42.449 --> 00:56:44.820
a little bit of... It's a little much. It's a

00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:46.980
little much. I was going to go see Olivia Rodrigo

00:56:46.980 --> 00:56:49.659
and I'm glad I didn't because I saw a video of

00:56:49.659 --> 00:56:53.480
it later. And it basically is a bunch of 10 and

00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.840
12 year olds screaming along the lyrics about

00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:57.639
having broken hearts, things they don't understand,

00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.099
but having no concert etiquette. So they're not

00:57:00.099 --> 00:57:04.340
singing along. They're screaming atonelessly

00:57:04.340 --> 00:57:06.400
these lyrics and just ruining it for the people

00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.360
around them that had to pay $150 for those tickets.

00:57:11.420 --> 00:57:19.250
Oh man. I don't have opinions. Go for it. Speaking

00:57:19.250 --> 00:57:22.510
of young kids, I went and saw Bad Religion this

00:57:22.510 --> 00:57:28.070
last week. And not young. It is the funniest

00:57:28.070 --> 00:57:30.349
thing. Those guys out there rocking out. They

00:57:30.349 --> 00:57:32.070
were awesome. Outstanding. I saw them in Job

00:57:32.070 --> 00:57:35.309
King Murphy's. And it was a fabulous time. But

00:57:35.309 --> 00:57:38.309
it was just kind of shocking just how old they

00:57:38.309 --> 00:57:40.250
look up on stage while they're just still giving

00:57:40.250 --> 00:57:42.210
it their all. A lot of fun. i mean it's funny

00:57:42.210 --> 00:57:44.590
last time i saw it's been a while it's a bad

00:57:44.590 --> 00:57:46.650
religion the first time i saw them was probably

00:57:46.650 --> 00:57:51.690
26 years ago or something like that it's very

00:57:51.690 --> 00:57:53.889
funny to think about i actually had tickets to

00:57:53.889 --> 00:57:56.110
see of all bands i didn't i didn't go since i've

00:57:56.110 --> 00:57:58.090
been a little under the weather up in bellingham

00:57:58.090 --> 00:57:59.750
yesterday i was supposed to see face to face

00:57:59.750 --> 00:58:06.510
gutter mouth uh teenage bottle rocket and strung

00:58:06.510 --> 00:58:09.489
out So other, I mean, I guess teenage bottle

00:58:09.489 --> 00:58:11.769
rocket are older too, because they're, they're

00:58:11.769 --> 00:58:13.510
like my age, but they're not, they're not that

00:58:13.510 --> 00:58:15.889
10, 15, 20 years older, like those other bands.

00:58:15.929 --> 00:58:18.309
And so these punk bands are trying to cash in

00:58:18.309 --> 00:58:21.170
the way no effects did before, before they disappeared.

00:58:22.130 --> 00:58:24.090
But man, what I wouldn't have given the see face

00:58:24.090 --> 00:58:28.130
to face play disconnected live. This year I got

00:58:28.130 --> 00:58:31.469
to see, I saw a black flag earlier in the year

00:58:31.469 --> 00:58:34.630
and it's just great again. And you know, whoever

00:58:34.630 --> 00:58:37.300
he's touring with, but. that's the good one though

00:58:37.300 --> 00:58:40.480
right there's the two there's flag and then there's

00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:43.000
black flag and the great oh yeah yeah well i

00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:47.099
mean who you will have totally totally i mean

00:58:47.099 --> 00:58:50.400
he founded the band but like i mean what i wouldn't

00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.679
give to like get to see have a time machine and

00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.159
go back and see them with henry rollins right

00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.659
yeah that would be phenomenal and then i also

00:59:00.659 --> 00:59:04.639
saw um a couple of months ago i saw a gang of

00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:08.360
four Oh, yeah. That's their last tour ever. They

00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.800
came through Seattle and I wanted to go and I

00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:12.500
just couldn't justify the money for the ticket.

00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:17.619
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's so expensive now

00:59:17.619 --> 00:59:20.880
these days. All concerts. Every show. I mean,

00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:22.880
that's the thing is where you live, where we

00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.619
live, Bay Area, Pacific Northwest, endless good

00:59:26.619 --> 00:59:29.800
concerts. And then I just bought tickets to see

00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:33.130
Savannah Bananas. So it was like... Oh, nice.

00:59:33.469 --> 00:59:35.409
Oh, that'll be cool. Yeah, they're coming through.

00:59:35.909 --> 00:59:37.909
Are they playing in Seattle? Yeah, T -Mobile

00:59:37.909 --> 00:59:42.650
Park. Awesome. So I won the lottery to buy tickets.

00:59:43.050 --> 00:59:46.170
But by the time my window opened, I'm like way

00:59:46.170 --> 00:59:49.349
at the top 300 level. But hey, I'll get to go.

00:59:49.469 --> 00:59:52.349
Yeah, that's pretty sweet. I'm not as excited

00:59:52.349 --> 00:59:54.630
as I was when I put in for the lottery just because

00:59:54.630 --> 00:59:56.150
I'm kind of over them. But I bet you it'll be

00:59:56.150 --> 00:59:57.949
really fun in person. It's just eventually it's

00:59:57.949 --> 01:00:02.400
like, yeah, I get it. Yeah, it should be with

01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.840
your own two eyes. I mean, that'll be that'll

01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.480
be something that's like, that's cool. You know,

01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:10.619
you know what else is like seeing people on stilts

01:00:10.619 --> 01:00:12.840
throw balls that are in fire during a baseball

01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.500
game was seeing Oba and Dempsey together. When

01:00:15.500 --> 01:00:16.900
are we going to get a forward that can score

01:00:16.900 --> 01:00:20.460
like that? No, Ohio, come on over. Come be our

01:00:20.460 --> 01:00:26.219
man. Yes, sir. De La Vega has had two games in

01:00:26.219 --> 01:00:29.380
a row with some pretty sick goals. Yeah. How

01:00:29.380 --> 01:00:30.679
are you feeling about him right now? I mean,

01:00:30.699 --> 01:00:35.559
I know we're all De La Vega fans. Cedar, was

01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.340
it you or Dan, was it you? One of you, maybe

01:00:38.340 --> 01:00:40.960
both, specifically called for him to play on

01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:45.280
the left. If it was me, I would just care for

01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.480
the other people. I'm not smart enough to be

01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.280
like, oh, yeah, the left is going to fix them.

01:00:53.289 --> 01:00:56.489
I am a fan of the inverted winger. And on the

01:00:56.489 --> 01:00:59.630
left, he stays out wide. But then once he gets

01:00:59.630 --> 01:01:02.909
the ball, he's cutting in. And we haven't seen

01:01:02.909 --> 01:01:05.130
any other player, not even Kent, do that. And

01:01:05.130 --> 01:01:06.949
he's able to come back around. And just the way

01:01:06.949 --> 01:01:08.809
he can get around and back to the top of the

01:01:08.809 --> 01:01:12.710
box really opens up the ability for other players

01:01:12.710 --> 01:01:14.610
to crash into the box or for him to take that

01:01:14.610 --> 01:01:17.150
long shot. And it's something different than

01:01:17.150 --> 01:01:20.150
the prime assist, get to the end line, shoot

01:01:20.150 --> 01:01:23.829
it back to a crowded box. Right now it seems

01:01:23.829 --> 01:01:25.690
to be working, so hopefully he keeps doing it.

01:01:25.789 --> 01:01:30.349
I wish that Morris was there and we had maybe

01:01:30.349 --> 01:01:33.190
a little bit more athletic nine than we currently

01:01:33.190 --> 01:01:36.250
have with Moose that can get down the field with

01:01:36.250 --> 01:01:38.869
De La Vega. De La Vega's sneaky fast. I didn't

01:01:38.869 --> 01:01:41.909
realize how fast he was, but he's got some sneaky

01:01:41.909 --> 01:01:46.269
speed. But yeah, let's keep playing him. Let's

01:01:46.269 --> 01:01:50.469
keep rocking. Paul Rothrock's amazing, but I

01:01:50.469 --> 01:01:53.199
don't know how you don't. have peter out there

01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:58.179
every game yeah you you're you paid the transfer

01:01:58.179 --> 01:02:00.820
fee to play him you got to play him to find out

01:02:00.820 --> 01:02:05.099
what you really have with them lamb i'm into

01:02:05.099 --> 01:02:09.119
it i'm into it well and we i mean we need to

01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:11.679
you know morris is out right we have no idea

01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:15.059
if no ohio is gonna come or not or if we're gonna

01:02:15.059 --> 01:02:18.219
get a new striker right we need we need our our

01:02:18.219 --> 01:02:21.239
big money man Who's still, who's still standing

01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.980
to earn it and, you know, keep putting the team

01:02:24.980 --> 01:02:29.119
on his back. So at this point, you know, it's

01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:35.400
all in, right. And he's just so nice and likable.

01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:38.659
I just, the fact that he came up at the rave

01:02:38.659 --> 01:02:42.460
gala and talked to us and then came back to say

01:02:42.460 --> 01:02:45.849
hi. And I don't know, it just. he didn't need

01:02:45.849 --> 01:02:47.550
to do that he went out of his way and so did

01:02:47.550 --> 01:02:49.530
rothrock went out of his way not only come over

01:02:49.530 --> 01:02:52.090
and talk to us to like ask how we were doing

01:02:52.090 --> 01:02:55.449
and ask questions and uh you know learn about

01:02:55.449 --> 01:02:59.570
us so it was uh like that it seems like we we'd

01:02:59.570 --> 01:03:02.489
go more for a certain quality of human being

01:03:02.489 --> 01:03:05.489
not just a quality yeah there's there's not a

01:03:05.489 --> 01:03:06.829
play on this team you don't want to root for

01:03:06.829 --> 01:03:12.530
yeah yeah absolutely so how are we feeling then

01:03:12.530 --> 01:03:16.300
going into the the Leagues Cup, we getting through?

01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.460
We making it to that next round of matches? I

01:03:19.460 --> 01:03:21.860
guess at that point there's eight teams left,

01:03:21.940 --> 01:03:25.099
so it would be the quarterfinals. Just giving

01:03:25.099 --> 01:03:26.739
it a go, no go. I say we don't get out of the

01:03:26.739 --> 01:03:31.320
group, but we get some younger players some time.

01:03:31.940 --> 01:03:34.699
Our double pit of it gets the rest up, and then

01:03:34.699 --> 01:03:37.739
we come out and we continue with no losing streak

01:03:37.739 --> 01:03:45.300
after Leagues Cup. Cedar. I bet you we get out

01:03:45.300 --> 01:03:48.340
of the group. I don't know. I just have that

01:03:48.340 --> 01:03:53.300
feeling like, yeah, let's get out of the group.

01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.579
I think, look, we want to get back to CONCACAF

01:03:57.579 --> 01:04:02.079
Champions Cup, right? And this is one of the

01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:07.599
chances that we have at that this year. So let's

01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:11.320
do it. I think, I mean, it's silly to talk about

01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:13.469
like, oh, are they taking this? seriously or

01:04:13.469 --> 01:04:15.989
not or like based on the lineup and the rotation

01:04:15.989 --> 01:04:18.909
but I think it I think it might you know end

01:04:18.909 --> 01:04:20.789
up killing two birds with one stone we get some

01:04:20.789 --> 01:04:23.469
rotation some guys get some well -deserved rest

01:04:23.469 --> 01:04:27.030
some other guys get some good minutes and we

01:04:27.030 --> 01:04:31.110
also you know play well I bet you there are multiple

01:04:31.110 --> 01:04:34.630
combinations of this team that we haven't seen

01:04:34.630 --> 01:04:37.550
yet that work well together and so I'm excited

01:04:37.550 --> 01:04:43.219
to see how those might proliferate throughout

01:04:43.219 --> 01:04:47.440
this competition. Yeah. I'm excited for Cruz

01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:49.639
Azul again, just cause I feel like they kind

01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:52.760
of derailed our season earlier and I really want

01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:56.619
another go with them. So I, I really excited

01:04:56.619 --> 01:04:58.380
about that. How can I get to the stadium to see

01:04:58.380 --> 01:05:02.679
Cruz Azul? Well, that game, I mean, you can still

01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:06.460
find tickets, but unfortunately the, the tickets

01:05:06.460 --> 01:05:09.480
you could have gotten through Mamos Sounders

01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:13.710
are gone. But if you join the Vamos Sounders

01:05:13.710 --> 01:05:17.590
Club, they are giving two tickets away free to

01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:21.769
any of the League's Cup matches. That one, according

01:05:21.769 --> 01:05:24.130
to Nicholas, is no longer available, but you

01:05:24.130 --> 01:05:26.070
can still get them to Tijuana or Santos Laguna.

01:05:26.730 --> 01:05:31.789
And we're talking good seats, like right behind

01:05:31.789 --> 01:05:35.949
ECS, 121 row. I think D, double D is the one

01:05:35.949 --> 01:05:40.820
I got. It's right behind ECS, and ECS is general

01:05:40.820 --> 01:05:43.099
sitting, general admission. Can't you just walk

01:05:43.099 --> 01:05:47.659
down to ECS and have a party? That's between

01:05:47.659 --> 01:05:57.260
you and the ushers. Obviously, last match, we

01:05:57.260 --> 01:06:00.260
were both down there, and I think you had tickets

01:06:00.260 --> 01:06:02.079
down there. I did not. I had a single ticket

01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:05.079
in a different section because usually I go with

01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:06.579
my dad and we sit in the club section, but he

01:06:06.579 --> 01:06:10.659
didn't come to the game. I will be in my regular

01:06:10.659 --> 01:06:13.119
seats for those matches most likely. But yeah,

01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.860
I mean, if you join the Spanish -speaking club,

01:06:15.940 --> 01:06:19.699
Vamos Sounders, you can get tickets, two tickets,

01:06:19.780 --> 01:06:21.800
and then I think it's $15 for additional tickets.

01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:23.920
So you can bring your whole family. Let's say

01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:25.400
you have two kids. You can bring your whole family

01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:29.800
for $30, which is pretty great. And you also,

01:06:29.940 --> 01:06:33.400
I believe, they're giving away trucker hats to

01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.900
people who sign up for those so you can go pick

01:06:36.900 --> 01:06:42.579
up. I'm not a trucker hat person, but some people

01:06:42.579 --> 01:06:46.780
are, and good for them. As you can see, obviously

01:06:46.780 --> 01:06:49.119
the listener can't, but behind me I have enough

01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:53.000
crap, not counting my guitar, but all the sports

01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:54.920
stuff I have on the other side over there. There's

01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:58.760
even a Russell Wilson, a Zach Scott bobblehead,

01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:02.019
a Macklemore Mariners bobblehead, a Bernie Sanders

01:07:02.019 --> 01:07:07.510
bobblehead, Baby Yoda, Mariners moose. uh so

01:07:07.510 --> 01:07:10.630
i have enough stuff i don't need a uh trucker

01:07:10.630 --> 01:07:12.590
hat but perhaps i will get it and give it to

01:07:12.590 --> 01:07:17.110
someone who would appreciate it more excellent

01:07:17.110 --> 01:07:20.590
i just uh i just got back on duolingo the other

01:07:20.590 --> 01:07:24.369
day mostly for spanish yeah it's been a blast

01:07:24.369 --> 01:07:28.449
not even for the vama sounders club but um yeah

01:07:28.449 --> 01:07:31.949
what a what a perk you know i got back on it

01:07:31.949 --> 01:07:35.639
because somebody sent me a friend request Yeah,

01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:37.960
it made the bird mad, so it got into my phone,

01:07:37.980 --> 01:07:41.360
and now I'm back on it. It offered me. It said,

01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.179
hey, Dan's available to do this. I did look that

01:07:45.179 --> 01:07:48.440
said you had a zero -day streak, though. I hadn't

01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:50.820
had it in like five, six years, so I'm now on

01:07:50.820 --> 01:07:53.579
three -day streak, so thanks. Nice, nice. Yeah,

01:07:53.739 --> 01:07:57.019
I was doing Spanish for a while when I was dating

01:07:57.019 --> 01:08:02.599
someone that was born in Mexico. I've moved back

01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:04.699
to, I was gonna say my native language, but that

01:08:04.699 --> 01:08:08.400
is English. My language that I have a degree

01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:10.739
in, which is French. So I've been learning French

01:08:10.739 --> 01:08:14.119
again to make sure I can get updated because

01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.779
I realized at some point that because I started

01:08:16.779 --> 01:08:20.619
taking French in the 80s, some of my colloquialisms

01:08:20.619 --> 01:08:23.140
are probably based off of books that were written

01:08:23.140 --> 01:08:26.039
in the 50s. And so I'm out there being like,

01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:33.760
oh, rats. holy gosh gee what should we do that's

01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:41.180
funny yeah that's one of my favorites it's so

01:08:41.180 --> 01:08:46.960
good that's so fun to say yeah absolutely well

01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:49.439
i think that's a good point to leave it i realize

01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:52.880
that i haven't uh eaten today so i'm gonna go

01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:57.659
eat some food Going to go hit up Duke's Chowder

01:08:57.659 --> 01:09:03.100
House. Chowder, say it right, Frenchie. And one

01:09:03.100 --> 01:09:07.359
of Seattle's finest chowder locations. They do

01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:11.420
have a vegan soup there that is delicious. But

01:09:11.420 --> 01:09:14.600
where can they find you two on the interwebs

01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:19.380
if they would like to find you? Join us on the

01:09:19.380 --> 01:09:22.199
Discord because that is the only place I am anymore.

01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:26.880
That's correct. That's where I am too. Yep. I'll

01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:29.920
be on the Discord. Yeah. So come on over to the

01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:31.920
Discord. It's in the show notes. So if you're

01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:33.819
listening now, whatever device you're listening

01:09:33.819 --> 01:09:36.100
on, just go down to the info for this episode.

01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:39.560
You can click through and join us. Great conversations

01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:43.460
always. Sometimes heated, sometimes super fun.

01:09:43.619 --> 01:09:47.180
It all just kind of depends on how we're feeling

01:09:47.180 --> 01:09:50.640
about the Sounders that day and what dumb shit

01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:56.159
new who's been up to. I've only ever had to ban

01:09:56.159 --> 01:10:02.760
one person. So it always works out. Say that

01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:06.619
again? And it wasn't me. I didn't get the ban

01:10:06.619 --> 01:10:10.340
hammer. No, no. You've got to do something a

01:10:10.340 --> 01:10:16.260
lot worse than just be upset that the Sounders

01:10:16.260 --> 01:10:20.819
aren't playing well. That's almost like a requirement.

01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:26.000
I mean, come on. You are welcome into the Seattle

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.479
sports community, Dan. You know what it's like

01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:32.340
to have defeat snatched from the jaws of victory

01:10:32.340 --> 01:10:37.340
on a regular basis to not win that championship.

01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:40.619
You know what that ultimate discipline, you let

01:10:40.619 --> 01:10:44.220
your heart sing for a few moments because you

01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:47.529
say this could be the year. And then they just

01:10:47.529 --> 01:10:51.310
let you down. You know that feeling. You are

01:10:51.310 --> 01:10:56.350
one of us. One of us. One of us. Good enough

01:10:56.350 --> 01:11:00.930
to keep coming back. Hey, next year, they're

01:11:00.930 --> 01:11:02.609
going to run it at the two -yard line. I have

01:11:02.609 --> 01:11:07.590
faith. Yeah, I mean, the NFL starts this week.

01:11:07.710 --> 01:11:10.550
I'm excited for the Seahawks. Maybe we'll have

01:11:10.550 --> 01:11:14.350
to convert you into a Seahawks fan. tried i've

01:11:14.350 --> 01:11:17.170
tried to just not watch and every year i i go

01:11:17.170 --> 01:11:20.350
back and do it yeah it's like a drug but you

01:11:20.350 --> 01:11:22.529
could have a second team and uh i do have season

01:11:22.529 --> 01:11:25.130
tickets to the seahawks so you know maybe we'll

01:11:25.130 --> 01:11:28.270
have to get you just to watch the seahawks so

01:11:28.270 --> 01:11:31.010
we'll you know bill wants to be a seattle fan

01:11:31.010 --> 01:11:33.670
all the way so yeah give me him we'll go see

01:11:33.670 --> 01:11:37.340
him awesome Well, everybody, be sure to subscribe

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01:11:46.500 --> 01:11:49.439
need to get their shit together. And let's keep

01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:52.199
this going. This is good times. We'll see everybody.

01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:55.800
Well, we usually record on Sundays, but next

01:11:55.800 --> 01:12:00.439
Sunday. No, yeah, there's a match. So it won't

01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.560
be happening. We'll figure it out. Bye, everybody.

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01:12:53.079 --> 01:12:57.670
Alexa, who's the best MLS team of all time? The

01:12:57.670 --> 01:12:59.810
Seattle Sounders are both unequipped and they're

01:12:59.810 --> 01:13:02.250
arguably the best MLS team of all time.