WEBVTT 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:24.339 He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public 00:00:24.339 --> 00:01:02.259 can't say it's cheating. Hello, hello, and welcome 00:01:02.259 --> 00:01:06.280 to another edition of Sounders Scuttlebutt. I'm 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.719 your host, Nicholas Biela, and I'm joined here 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:13.540 today by the wonderful one and only Cameron Collins 00:01:13.540 --> 00:01:17.900 Esquire. Is it Esquire? Yeah, it is Esquire. 00:01:17.900 --> 00:01:20.400 That's correct. It's technically Reverend Dr. 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:24.640 Cameron J. Collins Esquire. I mean, I got the 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:29.420 reverend, but I have officiated some weddings. 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.400 yeah that's another story together uh so welcome 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.719 welcome how you doing i'm doing all right i got 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:39.939 some food in me so i'm not as bummed about the 00:01:39.939 --> 00:01:42.420 sounders game we're about to talk about but uh 00:01:42.420 --> 00:01:46.379 you know it's uh a point on the road so we'll 00:01:46.379 --> 00:01:47.760 leave it at that until we get into the actual 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.340 discussion yeah and i mean we are for timeline 00:01:51.340 --> 00:01:55.500 we are talking about 30 minutes after the end 00:01:55.500 --> 00:02:00.939 of the game It is Saturday night, and it is, 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:07.260 yeah, just an interesting game. So we're trying 00:02:07.260 --> 00:02:09.259 this. We're trying the post -game special for 00:02:09.259 --> 00:02:12.419 some immediate effects. We're going to see how 00:02:12.419 --> 00:02:15.020 that goes. Don't know if that's going to be a 00:02:15.020 --> 00:02:17.479 regular thing for road games or not, but we'll 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:21.050 just kind of go. uh aaron unfortunately could 00:02:21.050 --> 00:02:24.949 not join us today but we um we miss him nevertheless 00:02:24.949 --> 00:02:29.949 oh oh wait but he missed last episode because 00:02:29.949 --> 00:02:31.629 of his mother -in -law and he's missing this 00:02:31.629 --> 00:02:34.550 episode because of his mother so uh too many 00:02:34.550 --> 00:02:38.889 moms in his life i know i know and i mean so 00:02:38.889 --> 00:02:45.490 i mean let's start with our our timely unfortunately 00:02:45.490 --> 00:02:52.560 death watch Why do people keep dying? It's been 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:56.580 an interesting week. I mean, if you are a fan 00:02:56.580 --> 00:03:01.460 of early 2000s reality TV celebrities, this was 00:03:01.460 --> 00:03:06.139 not a good week for you. Or if deaths come in 00:03:06.139 --> 00:03:11.759 threes, you had Ozzy Osbourne. Then you had Hulk 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:15.909 Hogan. Were there any other? prominent celebrities 00:03:15.909 --> 00:03:18.449 that were there was having there was reality 00:03:18.449 --> 00:03:22.330 shows in the early 2000s that reality shows i 00:03:22.330 --> 00:03:24.550 don't think i don't think uh malcolm jamal warner 00:03:24.550 --> 00:03:27.949 was ever on reality shows but uh i think i was 00:03:27.949 --> 00:03:31.250 i think i was in that time too you know maybe 00:03:31.250 --> 00:03:36.009 maybe hey that's that's two that's two we're 00:03:36.009 --> 00:03:40.009 waiting we're waiting for a third uh yeah but 00:03:40.009 --> 00:03:42.610 we did lose theo huxtable as well and we lost 00:03:42.610 --> 00:03:45.110 uh was it chuck is it mangione is that how you 00:03:45.110 --> 00:03:47.990 say his last name yes he's a syracuse syracuse 00:03:47.990 --> 00:03:52.349 new york native feels so good i i believe so 00:03:52.349 --> 00:03:56.030 that that feels right i could be wrong on that 00:03:56.030 --> 00:03:58.830 my cousin got quite mad at me for criticizing 00:03:58.830 --> 00:04:01.349 hulk hogan on the day he died but hulk hogan's 00:04:01.349 --> 00:04:04.810 done a lot of real crappy stuff in his life uh 00:04:04.810 --> 00:04:07.729 he was a hero to me as a kid i literally have 00:04:07.729 --> 00:04:10.530 his autograph i wrote him a letter uh actually 00:04:10.530 --> 00:04:13.879 to get an autograph for my cousin but uh Man, 00:04:13.900 --> 00:04:20.259 he kind of sucks. Well, I mean, first off, Rochester, 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:25.939 not Syracuse, so just about 45 minutes west. 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:33.939 I think a lot of us of this generation feel the 00:04:33.939 --> 00:04:38.560 same way, where we grew up on Hulkamania. I grew 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:43.819 up in those 80s WWF era. I touched the million 00:04:43.819 --> 00:04:46.180 -dollar bill. My dad was always really cool. 00:04:46.180 --> 00:04:49.500 Whoa, no way. Oh, yeah. My dad was always great. 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.160 He would try and get us good seats to things. 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.980 And as an eight -year -old, I had floor seats 00:04:56.980 --> 00:05:02.759 for a WWF show in Buffalo. And I put my hand 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:04.680 out and touched the million -dollar bill as Ted 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:08.329 DiBiase walked by. And Virgil. was following 00:05:08.329 --> 00:05:11.769 close behind him and smacked the out of my hand 00:05:11.769 --> 00:05:16.769 whack like how is this a house show or was this 00:05:16.769 --> 00:05:19.610 an actual uh i'm pretty sure it was a house show 00:05:19.610 --> 00:05:23.350 i didn't know it wasn't on raw or whatever the 00:05:23.350 --> 00:05:25.649 equivalent of rob yeah raw wasn't even yeah it 00:05:25.649 --> 00:05:29.449 wasn't even a thing yeah but you know but but 00:05:29.449 --> 00:05:31.629 i guess the the way you know i do remember that 00:05:31.629 --> 00:05:33.889 night uh ultimate warrior was there jake the 00:05:33.889 --> 00:05:38.879 snake roberts ravishing No Andre the Giant, but 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:45.920 yeah. George the Animal Steel. But yeah, so there 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.220 was a quote that I've seen passed around a couple 00:05:48.220 --> 00:05:52.759 times this week that kind of sums up that I can 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.459 understand and respect. It says, I've never wished 00:05:55.459 --> 00:05:59.040 a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:08.100 great pleasure. Definitely a... Complicated figure. 00:06:09.500 --> 00:06:14.000 He burned a lot of friendships in the WWF world. 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.660 I mean, Jesse Ventura tried to unionize the wrestlers 00:06:17.660 --> 00:06:21.959 when they weren't getting their due. Hogan ratted 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.160 him out. And that's why Hogan was getting paid 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.420 more than all the other wrestlers combined for 00:06:29.420 --> 00:06:32.860 WrestleMania. So he didn't want to upset the 00:06:32.860 --> 00:06:37.810 status quo. I mean, he did do it. I mean, I will, 00:06:37.910 --> 00:06:40.970 my cousin's credit. His point was my cousin is 00:06:40.970 --> 00:06:42.990 a huge wrestling fans, been a wrestling promoter 00:06:42.990 --> 00:06:47.689 before. He did so much to make wrestling mainstream, 00:06:47.730 --> 00:06:51.269 which is absolutely true. 100 % that, that, that 00:06:51.269 --> 00:06:59.149 Hulk and Andre. Absolutely. Absolutely. I was 00:06:59.149 --> 00:07:03.100 very lucky. I actually had a friend who. was 00:07:03.100 --> 00:07:05.019 a wrestling promoter, an independent wrestling 00:07:05.019 --> 00:07:08.639 promoter out of Syracuse, New York, 2CW, Squared 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:13.699 Circle Wrestling. And it lasted for a little 00:07:13.699 --> 00:07:16.779 over a decade. And so we would often have some 00:07:16.779 --> 00:07:19.199 really cool conversations about the behind -the 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:24.259 -scenes business of WWF. And at that time, I 00:07:24.259 --> 00:07:28.300 used to spend a lot of time on kind of an earlier 00:07:28.300 --> 00:07:32.360 version of The Athletic called Deadspin. which 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:34.860 was a really good sports site, had a lot of really 00:07:34.860 --> 00:07:37.279 good, interesting articles that weren't necessarily 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:41.079 news about who scored what, but more like independent 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:45.180 journalism about sports. And Hulk Hogan... Before 00:07:45.180 --> 00:07:51.040 it sold out. Well, that's what happened was Hulk 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:56.240 Hogan sued the shit out of them because of the 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:00.439 sex tape or the phone calls. There's a really 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.639 good documentary on it. Yeah, and so they got 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.139 the name back, and then once they went back live, 00:08:07.420 --> 00:08:10.779 they basically just tried to white glove it. 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:14.519 Yeah, and it just wasn't the same, and they had 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.199 to sell the brand and everything. And it wasn't 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:23.019 a scab. There's another guy that's involved in 00:08:23.019 --> 00:08:24.399 that, and I can't remember his name, but he's 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:30.480 a real piece of work. Yeah. uh totally i mean 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.940 they made mistakes don't get me wrong they did 00:08:32.940 --> 00:08:35.000 they had some questionable journalistic stuff 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:38.539 that did lead to their downfall but uh the entire 00:08:38.539 --> 00:08:42.820 uh hogan thing was funded by someone else who 00:08:42.820 --> 00:08:47.480 uh yeah uh peter peter thiel is that right yeah 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.860 that feel right yeah anyway so so the whole thing 00:08:50.860 --> 00:08:56.639 is and and to be fair What made Deadspin great 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.259 was they were writing articles that other people 00:08:59.259 --> 00:09:01.139 weren't, covering things that other people weren't. 00:09:01.139 --> 00:09:04.419 What it meant was it was by people who weren't 00:09:04.419 --> 00:09:06.980 necessarily journalists. It was Gawker Media 00:09:06.980 --> 00:09:11.799 by then, but that's around it. Yeah, but they 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:19.659 were presenting stuff without some of the journalistic 00:09:19.659 --> 00:09:25.419 practices that were needed. Anyways. Listen, 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:27.700 don't forget, Peter Thiel is one of the largest 00:09:27.700 --> 00:09:31.200 J .D. Vance and Trump supporters and is behind 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.299 some of the most nefarious stuff in their campaigns. 00:09:34.019 --> 00:09:36.600 Yeah, I mean, he's part of he's part. Anyways, 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:40.720 so so that's that's why once once I actually 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.539 haven't gone into dead spin until, frankly, earlier 00:09:43.539 --> 00:09:46.200 this week was the first time in maybe five years 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:47.919 I've gone on just because I wanted to see if 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.179 they're reporting on him. Yeah, interesting. 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:59.860 Yeah, yeah. So yeah, Hulk Hogan died. We feel 00:09:59.860 --> 00:10:04.200 many things about it, but I once recorded an 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:06.960 episode of my podcast, Punk Rock Pariah, talking 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:08.799 about how I wouldn't even celebrate Osama bin 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.059 Laden dying because I don't think it's appropriate 00:10:11.059 --> 00:10:13.299 to celebrate anyone's death. That doesn't mean 00:10:13.299 --> 00:10:16.000 I'm not happy that he can't hurt any more people, 00:10:16.139 --> 00:10:20.039 but it's far more complicated than that. Yeah, 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:23.019 I think that's actually very fair. And to that 00:10:23.019 --> 00:10:26.139 point, actually, because I used to work in media, 00:10:26.220 --> 00:10:29.039 I got my degree in communications, radio, TV. 00:10:30.379 --> 00:10:35.980 I pay very close attention on an academic way 00:10:35.980 --> 00:10:39.059 on how news is presented. I'm just fascinated 00:10:39.059 --> 00:10:41.240 by it. It's just something really popular to 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:46.379 me. The night Osama bin Laden died, I was watching. 00:10:47.019 --> 00:10:52.000 alternating between how fox news and cnn and 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.539 the independent which is one of my favorite go 00:10:54.539 --> 00:10:57.860 -to places the independent out of the uk uh independent 00:10:57.860 --> 00:11:04.480 .co .uk npr but what i thought was the most comprehensive 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:07.679 coverage and was really really good was al jazeera 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:12.159 um and they were said they were a complete i 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:15.139 mean for a long time a really good news source 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.840 They were for a very long time, and then I think 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:23.340 politics got involved and all that. I mean, much 00:11:23.340 --> 00:11:26.120 like any news source, funding is important, right? 00:11:26.460 --> 00:11:30.799 Yeah, and just because they were the news source 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:35.919 that was often receiving tapes from Osama bin 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.720 Laden and Saddam Hussein and such doesn't mean 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.460 that they were the ones that were promoting it. 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:47.409 But no. Anyways, just... media will forever be 00:11:47.409 --> 00:11:49.649 something very fascinating to me and i will never 00:11:49.649 --> 00:11:52.570 fully extricate myself from from it i mean they're 00:11:52.570 --> 00:11:55.169 owned by the qatari government right but uh yeah 00:11:55.169 --> 00:11:58.330 bbc is owned by the british government and they 00:11:58.330 --> 00:12:02.230 still do some decent uh coverage of things right 00:12:02.230 --> 00:12:06.629 like yeah oh yeah get that beer yeah i i gotta 00:12:06.629 --> 00:12:11.009 do that Anyways, I think that's enough scuttle, 00:12:11.009 --> 00:12:13.490 but let's talk about the Sounders game. Or do 00:12:13.490 --> 00:12:15.070 you want to talk about the All -Star game a little 00:12:15.070 --> 00:12:19.330 bit? Yeah, I mean, I think I want to skip the 00:12:19.330 --> 00:12:21.809 All -Star game. Did you happen to listen to the 00:12:21.809 --> 00:12:26.029 last episode of the show with the Ultras? You 00:12:26.029 --> 00:12:29.990 know what? I was not able to. It's okay, because 00:12:29.990 --> 00:12:32.490 I want to get your reaction to this as well. 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:36.759 It was without Dan, who I did invite to join 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.980 us tonight. Sadly, he could not be with us. We're 00:12:39.980 --> 00:12:42.340 going to bring him up from the minor leagues 00:12:42.340 --> 00:12:46.980 to the big boy podcast for a night. But the Rave 00:12:46.980 --> 00:12:51.860 Gala was last weekend. And as you know, I went 00:12:51.860 --> 00:12:55.919 and it was super fun and happened to have the 00:12:55.919 --> 00:13:00.559 Heritage Cup in my trunk. And so Dwayne, the 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:01.639 president of the Alliance Council, was like, 00:13:01.700 --> 00:13:03.679 hey, bring it in. And so I did, and we got a 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.379 bunch of pictures with different players, which 00:13:05.379 --> 00:13:08.960 gave us a chance to interact with players. And 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.960 Paul Rothrock was amazing, spent some time talking 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:17.200 to us, told Pedro de la Vega all about the Free 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:20.740 Pedro movement from our Discord. And when he 00:13:20.740 --> 00:13:22.940 was leaving, he came back and said bye to us 00:13:22.940 --> 00:13:26.039 and was so friendly and so nice, so awesome. 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:29.059 I hope his hand gets better. He broke his hand 00:13:29.059 --> 00:13:34.450 earlier this week in training. uh but uh and 00:13:34.450 --> 00:13:36.190 you know we had we had lots of players come over 00:13:36.190 --> 00:13:38.990 and visit us schmetzer came over uh had something 00:13:38.990 --> 00:13:41.850 a little little say about new who to us and uh 00:13:41.850 --> 00:13:45.570 you know some other stuff but really uh the the 00:13:45.570 --> 00:13:49.250 the event of the night for me just because it 00:13:49.250 --> 00:13:56.269 it broke my heart was getting um russnack albert 00:13:56.269 --> 00:13:59.610 to take a picture with the trophy and us and 00:14:01.190 --> 00:14:03.389 we were just talking to him and he was like, 00:14:03.409 --> 00:14:04.690 oh, I didn't get a chance to see it because he 00:14:04.690 --> 00:14:06.850 had been subbed off. So he was actually excited 00:14:06.850 --> 00:14:09.429 to see it and hold it up in the picture. And 00:14:09.429 --> 00:14:12.850 Amanda from the Lions Council was like, oh, you're 00:14:12.850 --> 00:14:14.629 my mom's favorite player. And he was like, oh, 00:14:14.669 --> 00:14:16.909 that's awesome. I didn't realize Seattle fans 00:14:16.909 --> 00:14:20.049 liked me. I thought they didn't like me. And 00:14:20.049 --> 00:14:22.509 it just really hurt my heart that he said that 00:14:22.509 --> 00:14:24.809 because, I mean, there's not a lot of chance 00:14:24.809 --> 00:14:26.509 for him like there is for other players. And 00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:29.059 I think he gets a lot of unfair criticism. You 00:14:29.059 --> 00:14:31.419 and I both know that Aaron loves him and preaches 00:14:31.419 --> 00:14:36.220 the work of Russ Knack constantly and his involvement 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:41.519 in plays. And we both, you know, are big fans 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.379 of him. I'm a pro Albert, yeah. I know. So it 00:14:45.379 --> 00:14:47.059 made me feel really bad that he felt that way. 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:50.460 So I hope – I was like, no, man, you're my assistant 00:14:50.460 --> 00:14:53.840 goal king. What are you talking about? So I hope 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:57.460 he has a little bit of – feeling better about 00:14:57.460 --> 00:15:01.000 the fact that uh he has some support because 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.039 it just kind of broke my heart that he felt that 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.159 way because he is he is and continues to be such 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:07.899 a big part of this team and you can tell when 00:15:07.899 --> 00:15:09.620 he's not on the field like it hurts the team 00:15:09.620 --> 00:15:14.100 yeah i mean he's he's certainly putting up dp 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:16.200 numbers over the last two years that are just 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.740 absolutely fantastic um if you're looking at 00:15:20.740 --> 00:15:24.059 you know just blind double blind situation you're 00:15:24.059 --> 00:15:26.899 just looking at stats You'll take that kind of 00:15:26.899 --> 00:15:29.779 production out of your DP any day. Some people 00:15:29.779 --> 00:15:33.340 just have a hard time conflating salary or expectation. 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:38.259 And you know what? He's producing. End of story. 00:15:38.659 --> 00:15:41.320 Yeah. And he would be producing even more if 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.419 we had a number nine DP that was on the field 00:15:44.419 --> 00:15:47.159 consistently. That's not a knock on Jordan necessarily. 00:15:47.379 --> 00:15:51.159 That's just a fact, right? Yeah. He'd have another 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:56.419 three to five goal contributions a season. I 00:15:56.419 --> 00:15:59.000 think that's probably accurate. I don't want 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.000 to say too many more just because Danny's had 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:04.259 a good season, but they're different styles of 00:16:04.259 --> 00:16:11.179 play. Yeah. So it's a bummer, man. I don't ever 00:16:11.179 --> 00:16:14.480 want any player to feel like the fans don't support 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.279 them because even in times where we're critical 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.460 of players, they're still Sounders players, and 00:16:19.460 --> 00:16:20.940 I'm still going to support them no matter what 00:16:20.940 --> 00:16:27.200 they do. Yeah. I think that's fair. I think that's 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.659 very fair. I won't say no matter what they do. 00:16:29.740 --> 00:16:33.340 I'm not a big Mark Burch guy, but you know what 00:16:33.340 --> 00:16:38.360 I mean. I do. I do. But that's one of the strengths 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:43.519 of the Sounders is that largely we have historically 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:49.840 put together a roster of people that are easy 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:59.139 to root for. One more bit of scuttlebutt before 00:16:59.139 --> 00:17:02.120 we get to Sounders. Your 2025 Western Conference 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:07.400 USL 2 champions. That's right. They're playing 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:13.519 in the national semifinal tomorrow. Oh, it's 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:15.480 Final Four for the Western Conference? Okay, 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:22.490 that makes sense. No, it's the Final Four. Correct, 00:17:22.529 --> 00:17:24.029 but I thought they were on to the final. So that 00:17:24.029 --> 00:17:25.589 makes more sense to me. I didn't understand how 00:17:25.589 --> 00:17:29.910 they only had two. But Ballard is hosting them 00:17:29.910 --> 00:17:34.910 on Sunday at 5 .30 p .m. So at Interbay Stadium. 00:17:35.269 --> 00:17:37.630 Because I guess they played a Seattle U in the 00:17:37.630 --> 00:17:43.910 round before, which I did not realize. But Flint 00:17:43.910 --> 00:17:48.210 City knocked off – say that again? I was just 00:17:48.210 --> 00:17:50.029 going to say I wonder if there was a scheduling 00:17:50.029 --> 00:17:53.539 conflict. There must have been, yeah. Seattle 00:17:53.539 --> 00:17:56.579 U is a great place to play, a championship field. 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.759 Not as many seats, but there has been multiple 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:02.900 national championships won there on that field 00:18:02.900 --> 00:18:06.980 at different levels. And not only that, it is 00:18:06.980 --> 00:18:09.119 where one of the teams is going to be training 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:11.019 during the World Cup next summer. They're not 00:18:11.019 --> 00:18:14.640 just training down at the Sounders clubhouse. 00:18:14.779 --> 00:18:17.680 There will also be another team. that their training 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.420 is at Seattle university, which since I have 00:18:20.420 --> 00:18:24.299 access to that building, I might just go try 00:18:24.299 --> 00:18:27.200 to hang out with some world cup players. Maybe 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:29.000 that's how I get in. That's going to be really, 00:18:29.019 --> 00:18:31.220 really tough to do on a security ops situation, 00:18:31.339 --> 00:18:34.220 but I get what you're saying. I still have access 00:18:34.220 --> 00:18:37.599 to the gym. I can use my card to scan in. You'd 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:42.480 be surprised. Back in high school. And granted, 00:18:42.500 --> 00:18:44.000 it's been a long time back in high school. It's 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:45.859 where the road players used to always come play. 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.539 uh so every once in a while at seattle prep we 00:18:48.539 --> 00:18:51.279 went over to seattle u for jim and we would peek 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:53.220 in and i remember seeing shack there one time 00:18:53.220 --> 00:18:55.920 when orlando was in town and some other people 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:01.119 uh and and yeah so manchester united trained 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:02.660 there a few years back i think it was when they 00:19:02.660 --> 00:19:05.599 played celtic here maybe okay and also when they 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.380 played the sounders when that we lost five nothing 00:19:08.380 --> 00:19:11.299 that game was that uh and who was the goalie 00:19:11.299 --> 00:19:13.740 that got the that that ended his career in that 00:19:13.740 --> 00:19:16.200 game it was our backup goalie He had been our 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.200 USL keeper, and he hit his head and got a concussion 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:23.220 on the goal post. Not Josh Ford? Or was it Ben 00:19:23.220 --> 00:19:27.539 Dragovan? Yeah, I think it was Dragovan. Terry 00:19:27.539 --> 00:19:30.480 Boss? Or Terry Boss. That's probably who it was, 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:32.400 Terry Boss. Now that I think about it. Because 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.180 Dragovan, I don't know if he actually made it 00:19:34.180 --> 00:19:36.279 to the – did he ever make it to the Sounders 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:39.380 Pro Squad? I thought he did in the first year, 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.359 but I could be wrong. He might have. But, yeah, 00:19:42.460 --> 00:19:44.740 that was unfortunate. But, yeah, Ballard FC. 00:19:45.289 --> 00:19:48.269 playing uh but city bucks who beat minneapolis 00:19:48.269 --> 00:19:50.910 city unfortunately who's a team i support because 00:19:50.910 --> 00:19:53.210 uh my friend nate started their one supporter 00:19:53.210 --> 00:19:56.869 group lives in minneapolis um and they have they've 00:19:56.869 --> 00:19:58.809 always had awesome jerseys for a while they had 00:19:58.809 --> 00:20:01.430 the best jerseys in the country so uh it'll be 00:20:01.430 --> 00:20:03.390 cool to see if we can make it to another final 00:20:03.390 --> 00:20:09.029 yeah i mean we we this is our third um western 00:20:09.029 --> 00:20:14.920 conference title in in like four years The other 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.160 side, Vermont Green, Dothan United. Vermont Green 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:20.299 with some of the best jerseys in the country. 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:23.019 Wow, that would be really fun for Vermont versus 00:20:23.019 --> 00:20:27.240 Ballard. I haven't seen those, to be honest. 00:20:29.180 --> 00:20:31.240 Oh, yeah. You'll check them out. Vermont Green 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.279 historically has some of the coolest jerseys 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.420 around. Just super fun with what they've done. 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:39.700 And Bernie Sounders likes to shout them out. 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:46.349 Bernie Sounders. Wow. That's right. But they 00:20:46.349 --> 00:20:48.650 did beat Lionsbridge, and that's who we beat 00:20:48.650 --> 00:20:52.890 when we won our national title. Nice. So they 00:20:52.890 --> 00:20:56.569 beat them. So much like Ballard FC, Lionsbridge 00:20:56.569 --> 00:21:02.730 FC has been kind of a perennial powerhouse. I 00:21:02.730 --> 00:21:06.079 threw that up. vermont green fc shop there in 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:07.799 the chat for you there nicholas so you can oh 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:09.960 cool get a chance to check it out i know i know 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:12.279 you probably don't uh want to have to spend money 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:15.599 on more jerseys right now but uh their wildflower 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:20.700 kit is pretty fun oh yeah yeah even the pre -match 00:21:20.700 --> 00:21:26.380 top is nice and their home their home kit is 00:21:26.380 --> 00:21:29.920 just their main one is good too so uh they've 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.920 done a pretty great job over there at making 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:35.460 a little soccer community. And so it's cool to 00:21:35.460 --> 00:21:41.539 see. I like it. I like it. I mean, that was one 00:21:41.539 --> 00:21:43.660 of the things I liked about the Saturday soccer 00:21:43.660 --> 00:21:49.319 pop -up shop that came out last, last week was 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:51.559 just going into the store and seeing kits from 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:54.500 all over the world and just being expired. um 00:21:54.500 --> 00:21:57.420 literally as earlier this morning earlier this 00:21:57.420 --> 00:22:00.539 uh this afternoon i was creating our public jersey 00:22:00.539 --> 00:22:03.160 for our public theme which i can't announce just 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.720 yet because it's not public but um so i just 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.940 i just love i love jersey design your inspiration 00:22:08.940 --> 00:22:12.420 i'm excited i'm excited for that yeah it'll be 00:22:12.420 --> 00:22:14.539 fun it'll be fun i love i love what you're doing 00:22:14.539 --> 00:22:17.339 as well for yours so that'll be cool If you're 00:22:17.339 --> 00:22:19.460 still on that page, scroll down. Oh, geez, there's 00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:22.160 a giant spider in my wall. Go away. Scroll down 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.660 to the Electric Pine Goalkeeper Kit. That's pretty 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:27.359 cool, too, the way they've worked in a pine tree 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:32.099 into their goalkeeper kit. Pine trees. It's on 00:22:32.099 --> 00:22:35.720 the first page at the bottom. Everyone else, 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:39.099 just go to the vermontgreenfc .com and hit click 00:22:39.099 --> 00:22:44.589 shop, and it'll come up. yeah i see the training 00:22:44.589 --> 00:22:47.849 tops but i do not see i do not see the goal oh 00:22:47.849 --> 00:22:51.730 way down okay the maple goalkeeper kit two above 00:22:51.730 --> 00:22:54.970 that oh gotcha i'm like i'm like are we going 00:22:54.970 --> 00:22:56.950 full super troopers are we chugging that bad 00:22:56.950 --> 00:23:02.289 boy okay yeah yeah okay yeah i like that spider 00:23:02.289 --> 00:23:06.650 no now it's on the ground what am i doing he's 00:23:06.650 --> 00:23:13.980 gonna get his revenge I'm taking my shoes off 00:23:13.980 --> 00:23:16.019 the ground and putting them on this William Shakespeare 00:23:16.019 --> 00:23:19.740 book over here so that the spider can't get them. 00:23:21.259 --> 00:23:25.039 Yeah, so interesting week in MLS. We had the 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.980 all -star game. Messi no -showed, and so they 00:23:27.980 --> 00:23:30.160 promptly suspended him for today's game, and 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.539 I'm impressed that they took that step. Yeah, 00:23:33.539 --> 00:23:37.599 hey man, Jordi Alba. Yeah. And that game ended 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.359 in a 0 -0 draw against Cincinnati. Oh, that's 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.180 big because they would have made a difference. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:50.559 Yeah. Was not a fan of the Minnesota -St. Louis 00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.319 City game because Yeboah had a – by the way, 00:23:53.339 --> 00:23:57.359 that 2 -1. So Minnesota -St. Louis City 2 -1, 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:04.460 three penalties. Yeah. Yeah. Just – and that 00:24:04.460 --> 00:24:09.319 was Victor Rivas as a center ref. But no, I just 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:14.140 don't like... Yeboah did that really egregious 00:24:14.140 --> 00:24:19.740 stop in the middle of his run -up. It just bugs 00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:22.160 me. I wish they'd changed the laws of the game 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:25.660 on that. Yeah, I don't get it. If you're going 00:24:25.660 --> 00:24:27.660 to make the goalie stay on the back line, you 00:24:27.660 --> 00:24:34.599 can't let them do that too. I would propose that 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:40.690 the moment a player... begins their move, goalies 00:24:40.690 --> 00:24:44.170 can come off their line. Yeah. There you go. 00:24:44.269 --> 00:24:48.190 He moves, the whistle blows, the moment the player 00:24:48.190 --> 00:24:55.269 moves, then everything's fair game. I like it. 00:24:55.789 --> 00:25:00.390 Works for me. Did you see what happened in the 00:25:00.390 --> 00:25:02.630 LAFC -LA Galaxy match with the red card at the 00:25:02.630 --> 00:25:06.759 end? I saw the scoreline, but I did not see the 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.799 results. I did not see how we got to that point. 00:25:09.940 --> 00:25:15.259 In the 91st minute, Eddie Segura grabbed LA Galaxy 00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:18.440 player by the back of his neck and head. It wasn't 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:20.680 like he was choking him, but you can't touch 00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:24.380 that. He just had a stupid moment, and he cost 00:25:24.380 --> 00:25:28.359 his team three points. Yep, because LA Galaxy 00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:32.059 got... a goal in the 97th minute to go through 00:25:32.059 --> 00:25:34.160 after Gabriel Peck came back and had a penalty 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.319 and a 79th minute goal. So, man, if Gabriel Peck's 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:40.859 going to turn on the Galaxy, we know how they 00:25:40.859 --> 00:25:42.660 can be, right? How bad they can be and then come 00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:45.259 on at the late season. They're a team that you 00:25:45.259 --> 00:25:47.920 have to watch out for if they get good. Like, 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.579 I'm not writing them off. I mean, even today's 00:25:50.579 --> 00:25:53.539 game, this might be a good segue. Atlanta has 00:25:53.539 --> 00:25:59.680 a good offensive. minded team. They just haven't 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.079 been able to get everything going this year. 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:06.119 I thought, well, are we, are we ready to start 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.319 talking about the game? Yeah, we can. Well, we 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.720 do have some mailbag. Let's see how much is related 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.559 to the game. It looks like most of it is game 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:20.839 related. So we'll, we'll hold off until later. 00:26:20.900 --> 00:26:22.440 Why don't we, why don't we do this? We'll take 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.420 a break. We'll hear the Patreon promo and then 00:26:25.420 --> 00:26:45.400 we'll come right back. Sounds good. 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You even get a cool little 00:27:57.230 --> 00:28:01.250 downloadable membership that has our logo on 00:28:01.250 --> 00:28:03.670 it. That's Sounders Scuttlebutt Podcast over 00:28:03.670 --> 00:28:07.250 at patreon .com, P -A -T -R -E -O -N dot C -O 00:28:07.250 --> 00:28:09.950 -M. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. 00:28:19.819 --> 00:28:24.960 And we're back. Yeah, we played today, recording 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.940 on game day. I got some food in me, so I'm not 00:28:27.940 --> 00:28:29.859 as grumpy as I was, like I was saying beforehand. 00:28:30.700 --> 00:28:34.400 Let's start from the end and then go backwards, 00:28:34.460 --> 00:28:37.599 just because we know the final score was 2 -2. 00:28:40.299 --> 00:28:45.259 What an incredible goal, though, from the Atlanta 00:28:45.259 --> 00:28:51.460 player. Yeah, Ron Chuck. Yeah. I mean, obviously 00:28:51.460 --> 00:28:52.859 there was more the Sounders could have done to 00:28:52.859 --> 00:28:55.740 prevent that, but you gave him the space and 00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:58.700 he took it. And, oh my God, there was no way 00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:03.039 Andy was stopping that ball. No, it was a really 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.339 well -taken shot for literally the last kick 00:29:05.339 --> 00:29:11.200 of the game. When I look at the last, ever since 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.079 the Club World Cup, really, I look at the Sounders' 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.099 goals that they've allowed. And it's been penalties 00:29:18.099 --> 00:29:21.960 and weird things. There haven't been a lot of 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:26.720 just, oh, the Sounders got beat. Even that, like 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.779 that was a really good individual effort. So 00:29:29.779 --> 00:29:34.240 I kind of take that as an encouraging sign to 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:41.430 a degree. But at the same token. You have a lead 00:29:41.430 --> 00:29:45.230 going deep into stoppage time. You've got to 00:29:45.230 --> 00:29:49.529 hold on to that. I feel like between that six 00:29:49.529 --> 00:29:52.890 points minimum we've lost this season between 00:29:52.890 --> 00:29:56.990 Charlotte at the beginning of the year, Colorado 00:29:56.990 --> 00:30:02.470 just recently, and then this game. But at the 00:30:02.470 --> 00:30:05.849 same time, that's the 34 -game season. You're 00:30:05.849 --> 00:30:07.430 going to win games late. You're going to lose 00:30:07.430 --> 00:30:09.849 games late. You're going to drop. you know drop 00:30:09.849 --> 00:30:13.309 results late six points i mean that pops us up 00:30:13.309 --> 00:30:16.609 into second place tied with minnesota so i know 00:30:16.609 --> 00:30:19.690 but then there are games where maybe we shouldn't 00:30:19.690 --> 00:30:22.250 have won and we did you know so so it kind of 00:30:22.250 --> 00:30:24.950 so so it's it's you got to take the good with 00:30:24.950 --> 00:30:30.450 the bad sometimes with soccer um but so i don't 00:30:30.450 --> 00:30:34.529 want to hurt on that too much i do want to say 00:30:34.529 --> 00:30:39.570 as we're starting and going backwards one Congratulations 00:30:39.570 --> 00:30:43.730 to Baby D -Row. Osase Rosario getting his first 00:30:43.730 --> 00:30:47.809 MLS goal. He had a great look from a beautiful 00:30:47.809 --> 00:30:50.910 cross, which would have been, I think, his first 00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:53.369 touch of the game. Alex Roldan just gives him 00:30:53.369 --> 00:30:56.970 a wonderful cross from the wing right to his 00:30:56.970 --> 00:31:01.529 head, and he just puts it wide. But he redeemed 00:31:01.529 --> 00:31:06.390 himself with that five minutes into stoppage 00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:11.269 time goal. uh great play there between kent and 00:31:11.269 --> 00:31:13.630 new who people two players that have been in 00:31:13.630 --> 00:31:18.609 the doghouse um for various various ways i think 00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:20.569 kent has just not been getting the playing time 00:31:20.569 --> 00:31:24.289 he wants and i think he um is obviously going 00:31:24.289 --> 00:31:26.890 to be frustrated about that but hopefully it's 00:31:26.890 --> 00:31:29.009 both confidence boosts for both of them but i 00:31:29.009 --> 00:31:31.650 thought i thought kent did really well in that 00:31:31.650 --> 00:31:35.630 build up to the goal and i thought knew who uh 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.099 just put a really nice cross right over to, to 00:31:39.099 --> 00:31:42.220 D row's head. So really well done by the, by 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:45.500 the sounders there. So great job. Yeah. And honestly, 00:31:45.740 --> 00:31:48.480 I'm at that. It was before that point because 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.099 D row came on, but we were, we had moved Jesus 00:31:52.099 --> 00:31:54.559 up to four and it just kind of felt like, all 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.220 right, we're just mailing this in and going for 00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:58.640 the tie. And then, and then they're going to 00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:03.200 know. And I mean, it, I know that's never Schmetzer's 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.119 plan. He just didn't want to give up a late goal, 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:09.559 but. It feels like showing up the defense or 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.240 midfield really is what it is. Showing up the 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.440 midfield never seems to help us late in matches 00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.900 is my takeaway, just because at least last year 00:32:18.900 --> 00:32:20.619 we saw, and it was different midfielders, it 00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:23.339 was largely Atencio, but we saw several games 00:32:23.339 --> 00:32:28.119 where late subs really hurt us. Well, for context, 00:32:28.339 --> 00:32:32.539 in that 77th minute, we subbed off Danny Mussofsky. 00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.420 And we subbed off Reed Baker -Whiting. But then 00:32:35.420 --> 00:32:40.259 we put in Kalani Kosovianzi and Nuhu. But we 00:32:40.259 --> 00:32:44.240 already had Alex and now Nuhu on the field. So 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:49.960 Kosovianzi was playing up a level. And with the 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.420 way he gets into the attack, so that was more 00:32:52.420 --> 00:32:57.079 of an attacking sub for that. So that basically 00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:01.339 pushed Jesus up to the forward position. And 00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:04.259 that was only for 12 minutes. Uh, cause in the 00:33:04.259 --> 00:33:06.220 80, in the 88th minute, that's when we brought 00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:12.299 on, uh, D row. Yeah. On offense. And I felt like 00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:15.880 we kind of, it felt like step back during that 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.579 time. Well, well, to your point there, uh, the, 00:33:20.660 --> 00:33:22.880 the, you know, my favorite thing, the possession 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:24.940 graph or not the possession graph, but the momentum 00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:29.640 graph, uh, when we subbed off, when we subbed 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:34.059 off, uh, Danny and read, uh, the next like 10 00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:37.700 minutes we're all we're all atlanta so so you're 00:33:37.700 --> 00:33:44.500 not entirely wrong there um but i thought uh 00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:46.819 that's also at the same time we took off pedro 00:33:46.819 --> 00:33:48.700 because we took off pedro three minutes later 00:33:48.700 --> 00:33:55.240 um for ryan kent um Pedro, let's talk about that 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.539 first goal for the Sounders. So we're defending, 00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.380 defending, defending, defending. At first, I 00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:03.079 didn't know quite what happened because the cameraman 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.519 was focused on the clearance that they didn't 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.559 focus on the counterattack. But this is once 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.280 again, we talked about this like two episodes 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.659 ago, maybe three episodes ago, where we're lamenting 00:34:15.659 --> 00:34:17.739 that we wish the Sounders would try and just 00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:21.800 make quick possession. a little more often. And 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.260 this is like the third straight game where we've 00:34:24.260 --> 00:34:27.699 had that happen. And so it's just really nice 00:34:27.699 --> 00:34:33.960 to see that change up of attacking styles within 00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.000 the game where it's not super predictable all 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:43.179 the time. And big credit to Yamar for booting 00:34:43.179 --> 00:34:48.940 that ball up to, I believe it might have been, 00:34:50.070 --> 00:34:54.670 albert who flicked it on to pedro i don't know 00:34:54.670 --> 00:34:57.230 for sure i'd have to check the replay but but 00:34:57.230 --> 00:35:00.329 pedro was off and running uh a three -on -one 00:35:00.329 --> 00:35:03.349 and it was just really well done i thought he 00:35:03.349 --> 00:35:08.849 blasted that ball uh short side on a on hey say 00:35:08.849 --> 00:35:11.750 what you want about grazand he's a veteran goalkeeper 00:35:11.750 --> 00:35:14.869 who knows better than to allow a goal short side 00:35:14.869 --> 00:35:19.030 yeah um so pedro just Just outwitted him. And 00:35:19.030 --> 00:35:20.829 again, it's a three -on -one, so he's got to 00:35:20.829 --> 00:35:24.170 cheat a little bit to a degree. And so they just 00:35:24.170 --> 00:35:27.250 took advantage of the numbers and just really 00:35:27.250 --> 00:35:30.650 well executed. Guzan is a great MLS -level keeper. 00:35:30.769 --> 00:35:32.230 I don't want him starting for the U .S. national 00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:36.409 team, but he's consistently near the top. He's 00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:39.230 had a long career. He's had a very, very good 00:35:39.230 --> 00:35:43.809 career. I think it speaks volumes that a team 00:35:43.809 --> 00:35:46.710 like Atlanta who have had ambitions ever since 00:35:46.710 --> 00:35:49.750 they came into the league, he's been with them 00:35:49.750 --> 00:35:53.110 ever since he came to the league. So, so for, 00:35:53.309 --> 00:35:56.869 you know, I would say at the beginning of that 00:35:56.869 --> 00:36:01.409 reign, he was probably on the higher end of the 00:36:01.409 --> 00:36:03.130 goalkeepers in the league, and now he's kind 00:36:03.130 --> 00:36:05.369 of more middle, but he's not a below average 00:36:05.369 --> 00:36:07.750 keeper. I mean, you saw it last year against 00:36:07.750 --> 00:36:11.389 Miami in the playoffs. He was befuddling them. 00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:17.409 He's, yeah, I'll respect. I think what you said 00:36:17.409 --> 00:36:23.170 is perfect. Very good MLS keeper who had some 00:36:23.170 --> 00:36:26.260 time overseas, Don't want to really need to see 00:36:26.260 --> 00:36:29.000 him in the U .S., and fortunately, we won't need 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.860 to. Speaking of keepers, though, I do want to 00:36:31.860 --> 00:36:34.480 give a shout -out to Andy Thomas, who played 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.960 a fantastic game. Both goals, there really wasn't 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.440 anything he could have done on either of them. 00:36:40.739 --> 00:36:45.139 No, and he made some good decisions coming off 00:36:45.139 --> 00:36:47.880 the line. Didn't have to make a lot of saves, 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:52.659 but... he did have to really take control of 00:36:52.659 --> 00:36:55.179 his box, and I thought he did that pretty effectively. 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.179 Yeah, so let's jump to that first half real quick 00:36:58.179 --> 00:37:00.500 in general because, of course, they scored on 00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:02.940 their own goal. Do we have to? Was it the seventh 00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:05.880 minute, seventh or ninth minute early on? I blocked 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.739 it out. Yeah, it was seventh minute. But the 00:37:08.739 --> 00:37:13.679 RBW mistake, recovery from Yamar, just kind of 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.539 bounces off his knee, doesn't totally get in 00:37:15.539 --> 00:37:17.360 front of the ball, and goes into the goal at 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.420 an insane angle. And, you know, nothing Andy 00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:24.340 could have done, kind of the opposite of when 00:37:24.340 --> 00:37:25.980 we almost scored on our own goal in the second 00:37:25.980 --> 00:37:28.940 half, but it didn't go in when it just hit the 00:37:28.940 --> 00:37:34.440 far crossbar. But I felt like the first half 00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.320 is kind of the typical Sounders road game we've 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.360 come to expect where we're just not showing up 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:47.650 and it's just boring and we seem tired. That 00:37:47.650 --> 00:37:49.690 wasn't the second half, though, obviously. I 00:37:49.690 --> 00:37:54.449 don't know how to analyze it because defenders 00:37:54.449 --> 00:37:57.829 were slipping left and right. We were just getting 00:37:57.829 --> 00:38:03.690 overwhelmed. But we just kept making those key 00:38:03.690 --> 00:38:07.889 defensive plays, like a great run from Obed to 00:38:07.889 --> 00:38:13.869 chase down Latela, who... was off to the races 00:38:13.869 --> 00:38:17.769 with a lot of acres of space. And not only does 00:38:17.769 --> 00:38:21.929 Obed chase him down, but he wins the ball at 00:38:21.929 --> 00:38:24.550 the top of the box instead of fouling him or 00:38:24.550 --> 00:38:28.429 giving up a free kick or a dog. So at that point, 00:38:28.550 --> 00:38:32.110 you know, it just really, really well done. But 00:38:32.110 --> 00:38:37.989 I unfortunately think that Miguel Almarone had 00:38:37.989 --> 00:38:44.039 had his way with Reed Baker Whiting today. Rough 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:51.400 day for Reed. Yeah. You know, he didn't shine 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:56.059 great on that first goal. Kind of got himself 00:38:56.059 --> 00:38:59.019 got burned at the top of the box and that created 00:38:59.019 --> 00:39:02.059 scramble mode. But a lot of that first half just 00:39:02.059 --> 00:39:03.880 felt like scramble mode. I think that's the best 00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.260 way to describe it. It just felt like the Sounders 00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:09.800 could not get comfortable. in that first half. 00:39:09.980 --> 00:39:11.679 That's just, that's the way it looked to me. 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.480 Yeah. Even though they had possession. Yeah. 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.659 I think that's fair. It just, it felt like, it 00:39:18.659 --> 00:39:20.239 felt like one of those games where a team has 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:24.960 figured out how to, how to create dangerous plays 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.739 against us, but also how to stop our crosses 00:39:27.739 --> 00:39:31.210 from doing anything. And generally the answer 00:39:31.210 --> 00:39:33.849 then is to figure out a different way to bring 00:39:33.849 --> 00:39:36.210 the ball. That's when we see the over -the -top 00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:37.989 balls that used to go to Jordan when he would 00:39:37.989 --> 00:39:39.670 go on those runs when he was trying to get through 00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:41.309 the wings, but we don't have that kind of speed 00:39:41.309 --> 00:39:45.909 at the top anymore. So I don't know what the 00:39:45.909 --> 00:39:48.769 answer is, but clearly whatever Freddy Juarez 00:39:48.769 --> 00:39:52.630 saw, they were able to bring into the second 00:39:52.630 --> 00:39:55.550 half and make some differences. I'm curious. 00:39:56.609 --> 00:39:58.949 what you think about the fact that we have to 00:39:58.949 --> 00:40:00.869 make those changes at halftime. I mean, I felt 00:40:00.869 --> 00:40:02.409 the same way about the Seahawks with Pete Carroll 00:40:02.409 --> 00:40:04.329 is the way I've talked about it, where sometimes 00:40:04.329 --> 00:40:07.210 the Seahawks would be just down by too much by 00:40:07.210 --> 00:40:09.789 then. This case, we were only down by one and 00:40:09.789 --> 00:40:11.309 we came out in the second half and we looked 00:40:11.309 --> 00:40:13.289 like a much better team and it paid almost immediate 00:40:13.289 --> 00:40:17.889 dividends. How do we get that analysis from the 00:40:17.889 --> 00:40:21.170 coaches coming in quicker? I mean, I guess you're 00:40:21.170 --> 00:40:23.010 afraid to make changes in the first half, so 00:40:23.010 --> 00:40:25.530 maybe it has to do with changes. Something changed 00:40:25.530 --> 00:40:28.690 clearly. They didn't make subs at halftime. Well, 00:40:28.750 --> 00:40:30.289 it's a good point. And I think that's a question 00:40:30.289 --> 00:40:33.510 I'd love to really pick Brian's brain on the 00:40:33.510 --> 00:40:37.929 next time we get a chance to meet with him. Because 00:40:37.929 --> 00:40:42.210 it really is a great, great question. But, you 00:40:42.210 --> 00:40:44.789 know, I think it's a little disingenuous to say 00:40:44.789 --> 00:40:47.210 that it's just all a halftime adjustment because 00:40:47.210 --> 00:40:51.130 you can hear and see. Coach giving instructions 00:40:51.130 --> 00:40:53.969 to players during the run of play, during the 00:40:53.969 --> 00:40:57.309 game. So this does happen. But you can really 00:40:57.309 --> 00:41:03.670 adjust better. Historically, that's been kind 00:41:03.670 --> 00:41:06.610 of a hallmark of Brian Schmetzer. That's what 00:41:06.610 --> 00:41:09.489 Freddy Juarez's job. That's why often he's been, 00:41:09.630 --> 00:41:12.269 earlier this season, he was up in the booth the 00:41:12.269 --> 00:41:14.829 first half and came down after making the changes. 00:41:15.849 --> 00:41:19.530 yeah so so we've seen that amazing ability to 00:41:19.530 --> 00:41:22.929 do it so it's and it makes sense i think from 00:41:22.929 --> 00:41:28.329 a psychological perspective when there is a break 00:41:28.329 --> 00:41:31.289 and you can convince players to make different 00:41:31.289 --> 00:41:33.070 changes in their game because you can show them 00:41:33.070 --> 00:41:36.469 film you can show them different things uh i 00:41:36.469 --> 00:41:39.030 didn't notice this i'm curious you saw this um 00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:41.000 During the Club World Cup, they had all those 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.019 little TVs in front of the coaches, and I was 00:41:43.019 --> 00:41:44.719 wondering if that was going to continue in the 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.880 MLS season, and they did. When they came back, 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:50.300 you would see Schmetzer having a little TV in 00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:52.539 front of him for replays. Is that something they 00:41:52.539 --> 00:41:54.239 showed? Did you happen to see that on TV? I'm 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:55.619 curious if that's something that's continued 00:41:55.619 --> 00:41:57.920 as the league has gone on. So they're watching 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:01.019 a play from across the field but close up, and 00:42:01.019 --> 00:42:03.039 they're seeing film immediately to see what changes 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:06.889 they can make on the fly. Well, I mean, other 00:42:06.889 --> 00:42:09.510 sports have their version of that, the tablets 00:42:09.510 --> 00:42:13.510 and the prompters. So I think it's just giving 00:42:13.510 --> 00:42:17.610 the coaches technology to compete effectively. 00:42:18.090 --> 00:42:20.349 I don't have any problem with that at all, as 00:42:20.349 --> 00:42:23.789 long as both teams have an opportunity to utilize 00:42:23.789 --> 00:42:27.510 it. I mean, it's no different than someone being 00:42:27.510 --> 00:42:30.190 upstairs and coming down and telling you what 00:42:30.190 --> 00:42:32.869 to do. It's just you can make changes right there. 00:42:34.670 --> 00:42:36.070 you got to be careful though. Some of those players 00:42:36.070 --> 00:42:42.610 like throwing those tablets in football. Well, 00:42:42.789 --> 00:42:48.409 yeah. Yeah. I think today, one of the things 00:42:48.409 --> 00:42:51.750 that was really interesting was recognize that 00:42:51.750 --> 00:42:55.070 Atlanta have had a rough season. It's certainly 00:42:55.070 --> 00:42:59.570 not going, you know, it's not going at all how 00:42:59.570 --> 00:43:03.170 they expected this season to go. They, you know, 00:43:03.190 --> 00:43:06.329 they spent, you know, what, 30, 30 plus million 00:43:06.329 --> 00:43:11.130 on, on transfers in the off season. You know, 00:43:11.130 --> 00:43:14.530 so they, they kind of expected, you know, a level 00:43:14.530 --> 00:43:17.690 of, of competence with that. And, and to a degree, 00:43:17.750 --> 00:43:21.269 we saw that with their offense today. I think, 00:43:21.269 --> 00:43:26.610 I think that we really did see why they are, 00:43:26.730 --> 00:43:30.110 you know, why they are dangerous. Yeah. But, 00:43:30.150 --> 00:43:36.289 but, Did you happen to catch Guzan's interview 00:43:36.289 --> 00:43:39.849 after the game? No, no. I turned it off when 00:43:39.849 --> 00:43:42.750 they were, I think, right before they did that. 00:43:43.590 --> 00:43:50.309 It was very clear that he's exasperated, that 00:43:50.309 --> 00:43:54.170 he's thrown his own team under the bus a little 00:43:54.170 --> 00:43:57.190 bit. Ronnie Dyla threw his team under the bus 00:43:57.190 --> 00:44:05.340 this last week. uh they're getting in their own 00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:09.940 heads they're they're frustrated so i mean they're 00:44:09.940 --> 00:44:13.139 fighting they made that trade was it last week 00:44:13.139 --> 00:44:17.639 where they sent uh ephraim morales over to montreal 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:19.699 which is a 21 year old bolivian international 00:44:19.699 --> 00:44:25.340 uh for 450 000 gam and it could go up to another 00:44:25.340 --> 00:44:29.300 350 000 gam added on top of that and and they 00:44:29.300 --> 00:44:32.559 kept his buy uh sell on rights but um or you 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:43.059 know But their fans were attacking Anderson on 00:44:43.059 --> 00:44:46.360 it. And it's funny because I went into one of 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.440 their comments and was like, look, I would give 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.679 anything to have Anderson back in Seattle because 00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.099 he made so much out of nothing here. Obviously, 00:44:54.099 --> 00:44:56.159 he wouldn't come back because the position he 00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:58.920 would be in doesn't exist. There's not a level 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:03.119 that high here. Yeah, well, I think in this case, 00:45:03.179 --> 00:45:07.519 and this makes a lot of sense to Montreal, because 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:11.940 if you're Montreal, you struggle to attract talent. 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:18.039 So when you can get someone with some strings 00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.840 attached and take advantage of a situation like 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:26.400 that, Yeah, that's a big win for them, I think, 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.960 on that case. Kind of mutually beneficial. One 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.340 thing we've learned from having multiple talks 00:45:32.340 --> 00:45:35.079 with Craig Weibel, from creating a relationship 00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.500 with Garth Lagerwey, mainly those two, I would 00:45:38.500 --> 00:45:42.920 say, is that sometimes you trade a player who 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.960 has talent because they're not going to be able 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.619 to start on your team and you do it for them. 00:45:49.659 --> 00:45:53.480 Josh Atencio. Yeah. uh loaning out danny leva 00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.820 i mean there's a sam at dinner on henry henry 00:45:56.820 --> 00:46:00.920 wingo yeah uh i mean yeah i mean they're talented 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.900 and they just maybe don't have a path to starting 00:46:03.900 --> 00:46:07.860 anytime soon and the reason you do that isn't 00:46:07.860 --> 00:46:10.139 just for that player that's going to keep other 00:46:10.139 --> 00:46:12.500 players wanting to come play for you because 00:46:12.500 --> 00:46:15.340 then they go oh so if it doesn't work out for 00:46:15.340 --> 00:46:17.159 me here they're going to do me a solid and help 00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.940 me down the road somewhere else And so I'll give 00:46:19.940 --> 00:46:21.960 a shot on it trying to play here, which is something 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.760 that may not occur otherwise. So I don't really 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.679 have a, sometimes you have to give up talent 00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:31.800 in order to, you know, appease that talent or 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:34.260 the same reason we let Oba go, right? Like Oba 00:46:34.260 --> 00:46:36.139 was going to be terrible in the locker room, 00:46:36.179 --> 00:46:38.019 not because he's a bad guy, but because he didn't 00:46:38.019 --> 00:46:40.719 want to be here. If, if that's just, that's his, 00:46:40.820 --> 00:46:43.079 his career path was always, I'm a mercenary. 00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:45.139 I'm going to go and I'm going to, you know, his. 00:46:45.730 --> 00:46:47.889 tables and chairs of different teams that he 00:46:47.889 --> 00:46:49.829 played for that that's just who he was right 00:46:49.829 --> 00:46:54.650 at the same time i mean that's the same thing 00:46:54.650 --> 00:46:58.269 as um you know reputation matters so you think 00:46:58.269 --> 00:47:00.469 anyone's going to want to go to boa vista in 00:47:00.469 --> 00:47:06.190 portugal uh there's no way in hell um the well 00:47:06.190 --> 00:47:10.449 this is the team that keeps failing to pay the 00:47:10.449 --> 00:47:14.170 transfer fees players that they they get so no 00:47:14.170 --> 00:47:15.610 one's going to do business with them anymore 00:47:15.610 --> 00:47:19.050 you know reggie cannon just won his lawsuit after 00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:23.949 he wasn't paid um they were trying to use a transfer 00:47:23.949 --> 00:47:27.309 fee from another player to pay another transfer 00:47:27.309 --> 00:47:31.190 fee just just some really shady shady shit like 00:47:31.190 --> 00:47:33.250 who's who's gonna wanna who's gonna want to do 00:47:33.250 --> 00:47:36.610 that so who's gonna go to a team like that uh 00:47:36.610 --> 00:47:39.469 just really interesting but so yeah reputation 00:47:39.469 --> 00:47:42.440 matters and i think i think Honestly, that's 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:47.239 why we got Ryan Kent. He took a chance on us 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.860 with what we've proven. Now, I really am not 00:47:50.860 --> 00:47:52.960 closing the book on Ryan Kent at this point. 00:47:53.019 --> 00:47:55.500 I think today was a good step for him. I thought 00:47:55.500 --> 00:48:01.460 today would hopefully give him some good momentum 00:48:01.460 --> 00:48:04.519 going into League's Cup because I got a feeling 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.900 we're going to see him quite a bit during League's 00:48:06.900 --> 00:48:10.190 Cup. I think we're probably going to see a little 00:48:10.190 --> 00:48:15.429 bit of Danny Leyva, who hasn't been getting a 00:48:15.429 --> 00:48:20.070 big shout, a big run out. So we'll see. I thought 00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:22.429 it was interesting, though, that when Kent came 00:48:22.429 --> 00:48:25.869 on the field, suddenly we were pushing far more 00:48:25.869 --> 00:48:28.030 towards the right than the left. And he came 00:48:28.030 --> 00:48:33.389 in for Pedro on the left, correct? He did come 00:48:33.389 --> 00:48:38.900 on for... for Pedro, but I don't know. I'm curious. 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.599 I don't know how it was lined up at that point. 00:48:41.780 --> 00:48:43.739 Yeah, if there were players, because ultimately 00:48:43.739 --> 00:48:45.579 the goal came from the left, obviously. It was 00:48:45.579 --> 00:48:48.199 Kentonuhu over the top. He was in his normal 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:53.119 spot, yeah. So I'm curious as to, and I notice 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.039 that during the games at home sometimes, because 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:58.460 they'll come my direction a lot more, which is 00:48:58.460 --> 00:49:02.420 to the right if they're playing towards your 00:49:02.420 --> 00:49:06.239 end, in the Brougham end. uh then other times 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:07.960 they're playing towards the left and it seems 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:09.820 like there's certain personnel in the field that 00:49:09.820 --> 00:49:12.119 prefer to go one direction over the other uh 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:16.199 and i wonder how much that is on purpose or if 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:17.760 it's just like oh i feel more comfortable passing 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.699 it this way to this person and i'm never really 00:49:19.699 --> 00:49:21.880 sure if it's like we're going to try this and 00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.900 try that based on the defensive matchups based 00:49:23.900 --> 00:49:26.599 on uh who we're seeing their patterns of play 00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:30.179 yeah or or if it really is just in that moment 00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:32.409 You're pushing to the right, especially after 00:49:32.409 --> 00:49:34.369 Rusnak comes off, because he's really the quarterback 00:49:34.369 --> 00:49:36.469 out there pointing which direction to go throughout 00:49:36.469 --> 00:49:38.010 the game, even when he doesn't have the ball. 00:49:39.469 --> 00:49:41.530 Well, you know, the other side of that, though, 00:49:41.550 --> 00:49:43.869 is I do want to point out there was that moment 00:49:43.869 --> 00:49:48.150 where I think it was maybe Obed who tried to 00:49:48.150 --> 00:49:53.989 launch a cross slash through ball to Kent. streaking 00:49:53.989 --> 00:49:56.550 up the middle and, and, uh, it just took a center 00:49:56.550 --> 00:49:59.309 back making a good play to prevent that, uh, 00:49:59.389 --> 00:50:02.750 shortly after he came on. Um, so he was kind 00:50:02.750 --> 00:50:07.090 of not just staying to the wide side. Um, he 00:50:07.090 --> 00:50:08.849 was getting involved into the play a little, 00:50:08.889 --> 00:50:12.630 a little more than maybe, maybe usual. So, um, 00:50:13.869 --> 00:50:17.110 hopefully that's a good thing. Yeah, I agree. 00:50:17.190 --> 00:50:18.849 Let's hit some of these mailbag questions real 00:50:18.849 --> 00:50:21.110 quick, uh, that we have. Yeah, let's kind of, 00:50:21.190 --> 00:50:24.949 uh, first one. Why did we look scared to take 00:50:24.949 --> 00:50:29.070 shots from outside the box? I feel like we haven't 00:50:29.070 --> 00:50:31.369 been taking a lot of shots from outside the box 00:50:31.369 --> 00:50:34.190 in general. We have scored some in the last few 00:50:34.190 --> 00:50:36.570 games, but throughout the season, we're much 00:50:36.570 --> 00:50:38.610 more likely to cross it because that's our game, 00:50:38.710 --> 00:50:41.889 for better or worse. Well, you're right, but 00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:43.750 you've got to remember, you've got to freeze 00:50:43.750 --> 00:50:47.090 frame where are we at these times that people 00:50:47.090 --> 00:50:49.429 are like, oh, take a shot, take a shot. One. 00:50:50.670 --> 00:50:53.530 if you're going to if you're in a spot where 00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:55.809 the passing lane or the shooting lane's not there 00:50:55.809 --> 00:50:59.289 and that gets clogged up that is an immediate 00:50:59.289 --> 00:51:03.650 turnaround transition the other way yeah and 00:51:03.650 --> 00:51:08.630 so you have to be smart tired defenders on on 00:51:08.630 --> 00:51:11.030 how you do it now there are times where yeah 00:51:11.030 --> 00:51:16.269 you see the situation like shoot and unfortunately 00:51:16.269 --> 00:51:22.329 just the the mindset it takes to recognize the 00:51:22.329 --> 00:51:26.329 situation to set your feet up to take that you 00:51:26.329 --> 00:51:28.170 know when you're stepping out you need like a 00:51:28.170 --> 00:51:30.869 two -step run up you need that that chance to 00:51:30.869 --> 00:51:34.030 get you know some power behind the shot sometimes 00:51:34.030 --> 00:51:38.449 it's just not there the the mls level defenders 00:51:38.449 --> 00:51:41.989 they close down faster than you think yeah i 00:51:41.989 --> 00:51:45.690 will say at times seems to hesitate more than 00:51:45.690 --> 00:51:48.559 i i thought he would have based on the way he 00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.699 played a lot when he was younger. And I don't 00:51:50.699 --> 00:51:53.900 know if that has to do with not being as familiar 00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:57.159 with his teammates as being, you know, when Areola 00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:58.760 was out there, they knew each other forwards 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.380 and backwards. They could play without looking 00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:03.719 at each other. And so it very well could take 00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:05.679 a while to learn your team, especially when we're 00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.579 having players come in and out constantly. But 00:52:08.579 --> 00:52:11.380 in general, I agree with you, especially late 00:52:11.380 --> 00:52:13.260 in that match. That bounces off the defender 00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:14.820 and deflects back the other way, and suddenly 00:52:14.820 --> 00:52:17.170 they have a breakaway. well that that's when 00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:20.909 dangerous things happen yeah and i mean i think 00:52:20.909 --> 00:52:23.690 i think the other side is that i thought we saw 00:52:23.690 --> 00:52:27.170 um over the last few weeks i think we've seen 00:52:27.170 --> 00:52:31.170 jesus just looking a hell of a lot better i mean 00:52:31.170 --> 00:52:33.489 he's always shown signs of good stuff but then 00:52:33.489 --> 00:52:37.050 you're seeing measurable impacts as well on the 00:52:37.050 --> 00:52:39.590 score sheet which which obviously a lot of people 00:52:39.590 --> 00:52:41.130 are going to look to that first and foremost 00:52:41.130 --> 00:52:46.510 um so i'm i'm pretty pleased with how Jesus has 00:52:46.510 --> 00:52:48.630 been playing I'm still surprised and maybe this 00:52:48.630 --> 00:52:51.150 is the the league's cup that will change us uh 00:52:51.150 --> 00:52:53.670 that we haven't seen Ryan Kent get a run out 00:52:53.670 --> 00:52:58.349 at that position because I think Ryan Kent has 00:52:58.349 --> 00:53:00.409 the opportunity to really level up that position 00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:02.449 compared to where Jesus has been now Jesus has 00:53:02.449 --> 00:53:04.889 been playing better he's been scoring goals uh 00:53:04.889 --> 00:53:08.710 but not in the last few games uh and I thought 00:53:08.710 --> 00:53:14.030 there was some room there but um you know for 00:53:14.030 --> 00:53:17.510 whatever reason we've seen players need to prove 00:53:17.510 --> 00:53:19.510 it before they get that chance to be on the field 00:53:19.510 --> 00:53:22.349 regularly and we saw Pedro prove it and now I 00:53:22.349 --> 00:53:25.050 think I mean I think that's his position on the 00:53:25.050 --> 00:53:26.889 left to lose which is tough for Paul because 00:53:26.889 --> 00:53:30.630 Paul is an amazing player but you can't sit Pedro 00:53:30.630 --> 00:53:32.909 in a in a meaningful game at this point like 00:53:32.909 --> 00:53:37.869 a an actual league match yeah but at the same 00:53:37.869 --> 00:53:43.429 time um This team hasn't been able to keep people 00:53:43.429 --> 00:53:46.409 healthy all season long, so just give it a week. 00:53:47.590 --> 00:53:51.309 And Paul's hand obviously being broken is a bummer, 00:53:51.349 --> 00:53:55.170 but thankfully that's something that with surgery 00:53:55.170 --> 00:53:58.150 and a club on his hand, he can make it through 00:53:58.150 --> 00:54:04.730 pretty easily, I think. Yeah. Although he's going 00:54:04.730 --> 00:54:06.889 to play with some fire and grit. I'm curious 00:54:06.889 --> 00:54:09.860 to see how that changes when he's got a... you 00:54:09.860 --> 00:54:11.920 know, a clubbed hand. He just might get a red 00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:14.199 card. Like the old days with Carl Mecklenburg 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.760 for the Denver Broncos, their scary linebacker 00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:18.860 dude who had a big club and he's swinging it 00:54:18.860 --> 00:54:24.820 around at people. So another question. Does Andrew 00:54:24.820 --> 00:54:27.519 look ready to take the mantle once Fry retires? 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:34.119 Yeah, I would have said yes last year. This year 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.420 I feel like he, you saw. It's going to be different. 00:54:36.699 --> 00:54:39.199 a little bit of a struggle early on when he was 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.219 playing. But I think these have been some solid 00:54:42.219 --> 00:54:44.719 games for him lately, especially these last two. 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:50.039 Even before that, I mean, he's not stopping the 00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:52.920 penalties. That's okay. He's not the one caught. 00:54:53.059 --> 00:54:56.360 Oh, yeah, he did cause a penalty. But Fry doesn't 00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.960 really stop the penalties either until that playoff 00:54:59.960 --> 00:55:03.099 win last year. It's house money. Yeah, he had 00:55:03.099 --> 00:55:05.179 stopped. It's house money. He had stopped, like, 00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.579 two or three in his whole career that were kicked 00:55:08.579 --> 00:55:16.139 off the bar. I feel much more optimistic when 00:55:16.139 --> 00:55:22.099 Andy's about to take a penalty versus Fry. With 00:55:22.099 --> 00:55:25.139 Fry, it's just a matter of, I hold my breath 00:55:25.139 --> 00:55:27.099 going, oh, even if he makes the save, he's going 00:55:27.099 --> 00:55:29.219 to come off the line. And it's going to come 00:55:29.219 --> 00:55:32.920 back. And that's not fair, but it's also not 00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:39.179 unfair. But again, if this is a situation, penalties 00:55:39.179 --> 00:55:42.000 we get maybe once every, what, three to five 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:46.780 games, we face a penalty against us over the 00:55:46.780 --> 00:55:50.719 course of a season. So if we have one moment 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.699 every three to five games that is his weakest 00:55:55.699 --> 00:56:02.329 point, I'll take it. I'll take it. And then even 00:56:02.329 --> 00:56:04.250 taking that a step further on the statistics 00:56:04.250 --> 00:56:10.590 side, take the best penalty shot stopper in MLS. 00:56:10.949 --> 00:56:17.650 He's going to save that every 15 % to 20 % of 00:56:17.650 --> 00:56:22.269 the time. Yeah, not that often. So if you're 00:56:22.269 --> 00:56:24.949 taking 15 % to 20%, so that means theoretically 00:56:24.949 --> 00:56:27.849 if you're getting a penalty every five games. 00:56:29.820 --> 00:56:35.820 and 20%, then that really means that once a season, 00:56:36.059 --> 00:56:39.920 Fry's missing out on a penalty save that another 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:44.340 goalkeeper is saving. So I don't want to harp 00:56:44.340 --> 00:56:48.340 on him as this is his big weakness, because all 00:56:48.340 --> 00:56:50.599 the other things he does day in, day out, game 00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.579 in, game out, save a lot more goals than that 00:56:53.579 --> 00:56:55.760 one goal that could have been saved this season. 00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.130 It is his big weakness, but it's not... he makes 00:56:58.130 --> 00:57:01.409 up for it in other ways right like no no player 00:57:01.409 --> 00:57:05.570 is an all -around perfect goalie yeah i mean 00:57:05.570 --> 00:57:10.409 if that's his big weakness that's these are the 00:57:10.409 --> 00:57:12.869 there are much worse problems i have i would 00:57:12.869 --> 00:57:17.250 rather have i would rather have a goalie that 00:57:17.250 --> 00:57:21.050 is guaranteed never ever ever to save a penalty 00:57:21.050 --> 00:57:27.380 but excels at but is going to lead the league 00:57:27.380 --> 00:57:31.400 in shutouts every year or be top three in shutouts 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.280 every year. I would take that in a heartbeat. 00:57:34.380 --> 00:57:36.900 17 % to 20 % by goalkeepers on penalty kicks, 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.559 which Fry is significantly lower than that. But 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:48.639 17 .5 % according to CEFR, ARQ. Okay. I would 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:53.269 take that trade off. 100%. Sure. No, here's the 00:57:53.269 --> 00:57:55.150 thing. We were just lucky to see Nick Raimondo 00:57:55.150 --> 00:57:57.590 play in our stadium quite a few times. It was 00:57:57.590 --> 00:58:01.469 one of the greatest penalty savers ever. If not 00:58:01.469 --> 00:58:06.590 one of the greatest. Yeah. Man, I like that guy. 00:58:07.570 --> 00:58:09.670 Let's keep it moving. Let's keep it moving. I 00:58:09.670 --> 00:58:12.449 think there's a double question here. New who 00:58:12.449 --> 00:58:18.090 in or out or new who subbing on late as our new 00:58:18.090 --> 00:58:23.619 closer? I guess. Do you want to start with this 00:58:23.619 --> 00:58:24.719 one or do you want me to start? I'll start with 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:27.900 this one. We saw Reid have a tough day, and I 00:58:27.900 --> 00:58:29.940 think New Who doesn't get run down like Reid 00:58:29.940 --> 00:58:31.900 did during that game. But they bring different 00:58:31.900 --> 00:58:35.320 things, right? So Reid is going to make us more 00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.159 offensive generally. Yes, New Who had an assist 00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:42.460 today. I think largely put in that position by 00:58:42.460 --> 00:58:44.760 Ryan Kent. You saw another play when he came 00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.989 up and... tried to run forward and everyone was 00:58:47.989 --> 00:58:50.329 back and he's like, Oh, and he kind of went up 00:58:50.329 --> 00:58:55.969 and ran backwards. But you know, it's a, I mean, 00:58:55.989 --> 00:58:58.829 I think, I don't think you bench read because 00:58:58.829 --> 00:59:01.489 of one game. I think if new, who has earned the 00:59:01.489 --> 00:59:03.489 trust of the team back, which coach master said, 00:59:03.570 --> 00:59:04.949 it isn't just about the coaches, it's about the 00:59:04.949 --> 00:59:07.929 team. You give them that opportunity again. He 00:59:07.929 --> 00:59:12.909 is one of the best defenders at defense in the 00:59:12.909 --> 00:59:15.429 league. And so if he can keep his head on straight, 00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.059 and the team can trust him on the field, then 00:59:19.059 --> 00:59:22.639 I think everything's good. How do you start him? 00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:30.440 Well, I think in this particular case, one, keep 00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:34.380 in mind, yes, Reid had a bad game defensively. 00:59:35.139 --> 00:59:39.719 But with his offensive... with his offensive 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:43.760 skills and the way that changes a team like atlanta 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.260 it's got to keep them somewhat honest so they 00:59:46.260 --> 00:59:48.559 can't just pin their tails by their ears back 00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:51.460 and just attack attack attack they have to be 00:59:51.460 --> 00:59:55.079 aware of that so so that dynamic changes a little 00:59:55.079 --> 01:00:01.639 bit when new who's on the field but i would rather 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:05.250 see A game like today where we just struggled 01:00:05.250 --> 01:00:09.710 defensively, yes, Nuhu is a better option out 01:00:09.710 --> 01:00:15.369 there. I would not be surprised to see him not 01:00:15.369 --> 01:00:19.070 start the first League's Cup game against Cruz 01:00:19.070 --> 01:00:26.250 Azul. Reed or Nuhu? Nuhu. But at the same time... 01:00:26.250 --> 01:00:30.409 I don't know. With Cruz Azul's talent out there, 01:00:30.469 --> 01:00:33.199 you might need... a quality player like new like 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:34.960 defensive quality player of new who's caliber 01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:40.840 out there you know this is a really good question 01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:49.719 and i'm actually thinking that so when we when 01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.860 we played them in mexico city we had the back 01:00:53.860 --> 01:00:56.300 three but that was obviously when paul ariola 01:00:56.300 --> 01:01:01.679 was still on the team healthy um So we did have 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:06.719 Nuhu in the back three. When we tied them and 01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.699 0 -0, we definitely were the better team and 01:01:10.699 --> 01:01:17.820 we were unlucky to get out of there. Pedro de 01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:19.519 la Vega was not offside as we won that game. 01:01:20.980 --> 01:01:25.480 Yeah. But at the same time on that one, we had 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:29.099 the three in the back. So I'm very curious to 01:01:29.099 --> 01:01:33.760 see how we line up i'm very curious to see how 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:36.400 we line up do you think you think we go with 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.800 with that um i would have said yes except for 01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:42.739 we didn't in the club world cup which is when 01:01:42.739 --> 01:01:45.320 i thought for sure including based on things 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.320 that our general manager said to me personally 01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:50.079 that that's what we were going to do against 01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:55.199 uh atletico madrid and psg right like that that's 01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:57.869 yeah i would have said yeah we're going five 01:01:57.869 --> 01:02:00.909 in the back and then we didn't and we saw i don't 01:02:00.909 --> 01:02:05.630 know success is the right word we saw uh we played 01:02:05.630 --> 01:02:10.510 well for our quality of player i'll say that 01:02:10.510 --> 01:02:14.650 i mean we still saw 48 times to the middle 36 01:02:14.650 --> 01:02:16.309 to the left you know what i mean like they were 01:02:16.309 --> 01:02:19.489 still eating us yeah yeah but but we were still 01:02:19.489 --> 01:02:23.289 we were not just defending, defending, defending, 01:02:23.409 --> 01:02:26.369 and hoping for just a long ball. We were trying 01:02:26.369 --> 01:02:30.110 to play our style of game. And I really respect 01:02:30.110 --> 01:02:33.550 that during this Club World Cup, that we didn't 01:02:33.550 --> 01:02:42.170 change what we do to go for the Hail Mary. And 01:02:42.170 --> 01:02:45.449 I thought that was something that I could really 01:02:45.449 --> 01:02:52.539 get behind. Absolutely. Absolutely. Mariners 01:02:52.539 --> 01:02:57.340 scored two runs, now up 5 -2. That's your episodic 01:02:57.340 --> 01:03:00.599 Mariners update. During the episode the other 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:03.000 night with the Ultras, it was when the Mariners 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.880 made their big trade, hopefully the first of 01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:11.139 several to get Naylor. So that's our Mariners 01:03:11.139 --> 01:03:17.920 update. So are you starting New Who then? If 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:21.980 we're playing Santos or Tijuana first, I would 01:03:21.980 --> 01:03:25.039 say no, because we're playing Cruz Azul, and 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:29.599 that's going to dictate whether we get out of 01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:35.239 League's Cup. I think we need to get a result 01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:38.739 out of that game. We need a result. Obviously, 01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:42.000 we won't know if we need one or not, but it sure 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.119 would help us a lot. Well, only four teams are 01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.480 going to get out of it. you know so it's just 01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:53.000 really interesting destroys mls across the board 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:56.099 and we get three draws we could potentially still 01:03:56.099 --> 01:03:57.940 make it out but we would prefer not to have to 01:03:57.940 --> 01:04:00.940 deal with that yeah and i mean it's gonna be 01:04:00.940 --> 01:04:05.139 really interesting though because uh because 01:04:05.139 --> 01:04:10.079 the the way that it the way that it's set up 01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.360 it's gonna be it's gonna be really interesting 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:20.079 to see um i think league mx is Kind of come with 01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:23.699 some fire. I think they've got something to prove. 01:04:24.619 --> 01:04:29.619 And I think we're going to see... They're going 01:04:29.619 --> 01:04:32.699 to win more games than they lose, I think. Yeah. 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.519 Yeah. So let's skip ahead. Two questions coming 01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:40.019 from Tim Hamilton. Excited to get your takes 01:04:40.019 --> 01:04:43.480 on these. He has taken over Dan the Bastard's 01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:48.039 mantle as the curmudgeon. of the discord join 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:50.820 our discord uh hey wait first off first off uh 01:04:50.820 --> 01:04:55.159 big shout out to tim for for uh tailgating with 01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.440 the last game i had a great time yeah really 01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:02.179 good time um he he he delivered he delivered 01:05:02.179 --> 01:05:05.360 yeah that was super fun uh definitely will be 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:07.579 going again the next time he does a tailgate 01:05:07.579 --> 01:05:10.539 uh usually that my daughter was wondering why 01:05:10.539 --> 01:05:15.349 she couldn't have jello Yeah, well, that's what 01:05:15.349 --> 01:05:20.429 happens when it has daddy juice in it. That doesn't 01:05:20.429 --> 01:05:23.949 make it sound any better. Let's get these last 01:05:23.949 --> 01:05:27.989 two questions, though. I'm going to put them 01:05:27.989 --> 01:05:31.489 as they are because I think your response is 01:05:31.489 --> 01:05:35.090 going to be interesting, especially based on 01:05:35.090 --> 01:05:37.769 what we've already talked about. We'll go with 01:05:37.769 --> 01:05:40.190 this one first. Does D -Row keep us from spending 01:05:40.190 --> 01:05:44.800 that sweet couch cushion moolah on Ohio? I wish 01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:47.019 this was a video podcast right now. The way you're 01:05:47.019 --> 01:05:52.980 shaking your head. It's like I said it. Okay. 01:05:55.260 --> 01:05:58.460 Nothing that D -Row could have done in this game 01:05:58.460 --> 01:06:02.059 is going to have any impact on us signing Ohio. 01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:07.519 Period. Exclamation point. Nothing was going 01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:10.280 to make that change. We are not going to make 01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:16.750 a change based off of our third string and fourth 01:06:16.750 --> 01:06:21.369 choice forward and results they get. Let's give 01:06:21.369 --> 01:06:27.849 D -Row credit. He got his first goal, but you 01:06:27.849 --> 01:06:33.349 also saw him miss a very good chance earlier. 01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:37.539 And he's been struggling a bit in Tacoma recently. 01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:41.579 Tacoma just got rid of their head coach. So everyone's 01:06:41.579 --> 01:06:46.260 been struggling in Tacoma recently. So let's 01:06:46.260 --> 01:06:50.340 be careful on the hype train. And let's recognize 01:06:50.340 --> 01:06:53.960 him for what he is. He is a project. He's, you 01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:58.019 know, we are not making first team decisions 01:06:58.019 --> 01:07:04.570 based on D -Row. No, no, definitely not. You 01:07:04.570 --> 01:07:06.050 know, this is something that's in the works for 01:07:06.050 --> 01:07:08.469 a while, so we'll see if it actually comes through. 01:07:08.530 --> 01:07:12.489 There's obviously, it's got to be finalized. 01:07:12.489 --> 01:07:15.250 It sounds like a fee has been agreed to, but 01:07:15.250 --> 01:07:20.469 you still need to get that, get him into town, 01:07:20.590 --> 01:07:22.730 get him a physical. And I'm sure they have a 01:07:22.730 --> 01:07:25.530 physical guy somewhere in, or person, I should 01:07:25.530 --> 01:07:27.289 say, excuse me, somewhere in Europe that can 01:07:27.289 --> 01:07:31.130 do the physical without having Noah having to 01:07:31.130 --> 01:07:33.809 come all the way here. I am a little annoyed 01:07:33.809 --> 01:07:35.710 that if he comes, we're probably going to have 01:07:35.710 --> 01:07:37.750 to hear that stupid Ohio State chant you love 01:07:37.750 --> 01:07:41.550 that just shows how inbred they are in Ohio when 01:07:41.550 --> 01:07:48.289 they're like, O -H -I -O, blue, blue. It's the 01:07:48.289 --> 01:07:53.170 same bullshit mindset. I think you've just managed 01:07:53.170 --> 01:07:56.500 to somehow piss off Ohio State. and michigan 01:07:56.500 --> 01:08:01.139 fans and somehow cruz azul fans and anyone who 01:08:01.139 --> 01:08:03.860 enjoys anyone who enjoys listening to our podcast 01:08:03.860 --> 01:08:06.519 on headphones so i think you just somehow venn 01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:11.619 diagram pissed up all four groups of people congratulations 01:08:11.619 --> 01:08:14.619 again but you know what i've hated michigan uh 01:08:14.619 --> 01:08:17.699 from for my entire life so i will uh the the 01:08:17.699 --> 01:08:20.460 football team i don't uh have i been to the state 01:08:20.460 --> 01:08:22.819 i don't believe i have so i have no comment on 01:08:22.819 --> 01:08:27.460 the state itself but Let's get this last one 01:08:27.460 --> 01:08:29.659 in before we get out of here and get our predictions 01:08:29.659 --> 01:08:33.979 for the next match. Do we just give Georgie all 01:08:33.979 --> 01:08:37.939 the minutes we're giving to Kent? I think Kent 01:08:37.939 --> 01:08:41.300 had a good game today. Also, if you're going 01:08:41.300 --> 01:08:42.920 to play Kent on the left, Georgie plays on the 01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:48.800 right. I don't see that happening. Depends on 01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:53.000 where you're playing. I think you're going to, 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.539 I wouldn't even be surprised if you see Danny 01:08:56.539 --> 01:09:00.539 Leyva at the 10 with Georgie and Kent up there. 01:09:00.619 --> 01:09:04.199 I don't hope to see that because the league's 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:06.460 cup shouldn't just be like us open company where 01:09:06.460 --> 01:09:08.939 we just put people that haven't been playing. 01:09:08.979 --> 01:09:12.079 There should be a thought behind it. And it's, 01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:16.279 it's not right. And it's disingenuous to give 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:23.850 Ryan Kent minutes. But without first -choice 01:09:23.850 --> 01:09:26.729 talent around him to help set him up to kind 01:09:26.729 --> 01:09:28.409 of see, you've got to set him up for success 01:09:28.409 --> 01:09:30.890 to a degree. Same thing with Georgie. Same thing 01:09:30.890 --> 01:09:32.449 with any of those players. You've got to set 01:09:32.449 --> 01:09:36.430 them up to succeed. So there is a balance. I 01:09:36.430 --> 01:09:39.170 expect to see, like out of our first -choice 01:09:39.170 --> 01:09:42.130 11 for these League Cups game, I expect to see 01:09:42.130 --> 01:09:47.899 five, around five. first choice players each 01:09:47.899 --> 01:09:51.560 game. The first choice. The first game I could 01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:54.460 see us going main, main, main starters, maybe, 01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:58.539 maybe, uh, uh, uh, I mean, not Fry because we 01:09:58.539 --> 01:10:01.479 know, uh, already that the entire tournament's 01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:03.439 going to Andy, no matter what. So we will not 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:07.239 see Fry in the, but, uh, I could, I could see 01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:09.640 us putting, putting starters. Oh, bad. Oh, bad 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:11.520 Christian. What do you do there? What do you 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.600 do there? I mean, I'm giving them a break, I 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.750 think, but, uh, you know this maybe game's thursday 01:10:16.750 --> 01:10:21.810 obed oh man already obed may want to play chance 01:10:21.810 --> 01:10:24.310 to to you know it's playing teams for the national 01:10:24.310 --> 01:10:26.350 from the country where he's on the national team 01:10:26.350 --> 01:10:29.630 uh may you know get some minutes in there so 01:10:29.630 --> 01:10:32.729 we'll see i mean i think i i think i probably 01:10:32.729 --> 01:10:35.489 shift one of the players out maybe give christian 01:10:35.489 --> 01:10:37.590 a break but i don't know if you want to shift 01:10:37.590 --> 01:10:41.489 both i i especially with jp hurt i don't i don't 01:10:41.489 --> 01:10:43.210 know i feel like we need unless you're gonna 01:10:43.210 --> 01:10:46.010 move rust neck back I feel like we need, which 01:10:46.010 --> 01:10:47.710 we've seen in the past, we need someone back 01:10:47.710 --> 01:10:50.909 there with the younger players. It's too bad 01:10:50.909 --> 01:10:54.310 we're playing Mexico teams because otherwise 01:10:54.310 --> 01:10:59.630 we'd be shipping up to Boston. Dude. God, it's 01:10:59.630 --> 01:11:02.130 already on Thursday, huh? All right. All right. 01:11:02.229 --> 01:11:06.909 So Sounders 2, Atlanta 2, bummer of a point because 01:11:06.909 --> 01:11:08.729 of the last second goal. But hey, point on the 01:11:08.729 --> 01:11:11.750 road is all you need. We are hosting. Actually, 01:11:11.810 --> 01:11:14.649 we are not. We are the road team. against Cruz 01:11:14.649 --> 01:11:22.229 Azul. Wait, wait. I do want to also shout out 01:11:22.229 --> 01:11:24.989 Tim Hamilton because Tim has made this argument 01:11:24.989 --> 01:11:27.390 on many occasions. He's been like, I want exciting 01:11:27.390 --> 01:11:30.130 games. I want offense. Well, you know what? You're 01:11:30.130 --> 01:11:33.369 fucking getting it. The Sounders, since Club 01:11:33.369 --> 01:11:36.210 World Cup, have scored two goals, three goals, 01:11:36.329 --> 01:11:38.909 three goals, three goals. They're scoring goals. 01:11:39.229 --> 01:11:44.630 They're getting their opportunities. So yay for 01:11:44.630 --> 01:11:53.170 that. Would you rather stay the course and keep 01:11:53.170 --> 01:11:55.609 getting results, another straight result? So 01:11:55.609 --> 01:11:58.430 we're getting results. Would you rather get results 01:11:58.430 --> 01:12:02.590 even if they are maddening at times where it's 01:12:02.590 --> 01:12:07.470 draw, win, draw, win, draw, and two of the draws 01:12:07.470 --> 01:12:11.470 should have been wins? Yeah, I guess so. Would 01:12:11.470 --> 01:12:14.460 you rather have that? Or would you rather have 01:12:14.460 --> 01:12:23.579 three draws and two wins, or three wins, a draw, 01:12:23.659 --> 01:12:26.319 and a loss, but all of the wins are like 1 -0? 01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:30.300 Yeah. I mean, you know me. I want the most points 01:12:30.300 --> 01:12:33.100 possible. I don't really care how we win. We 01:12:33.100 --> 01:12:34.760 give down every game on an own goal as long as 01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:39.659 we win. And the difference between that is nine 01:12:39.659 --> 01:12:43.199 points in my scenario with three wins a draw 01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:48.060 and a loss, but those wins being 1 -0, versus 01:12:48.060 --> 01:12:56.159 nine points this way with two wins and three 01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:59.840 draws. So, you know, we're getting those points. 01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:03.850 So, yay. Or one less point, but the games are 01:13:03.850 --> 01:13:06.569 more exciting, even if it drives us nuts. I would 01:13:06.569 --> 01:13:08.729 love to see. I love the excitement. I'd love 01:13:08.729 --> 01:13:11.069 to see that we can score. I guess the ultimate 01:13:11.069 --> 01:13:15.210 question is, has having a stronger offense stretched 01:13:15.210 --> 01:13:17.789 our defense in a way that makes it so they will 01:13:17.789 --> 01:13:20.909 score more goals? Because our defense isn't what 01:13:20.909 --> 01:13:24.170 it used to be for whatever reason. Part of that's 01:13:24.170 --> 01:13:27.579 injuries. Part of that, players just not playing 01:13:27.579 --> 01:13:29.039 like they have in the past. I mean, Reagan was 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:31.739 so solid at the end of this match that I almost 01:13:31.739 --> 01:13:33.539 feel bad that we didn't get the win, considering 01:13:33.539 --> 01:13:35.560 how good he was at stepping up and clearing that 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:38.979 ball out of the box. Yeah, yeah. But we also 01:13:38.979 --> 01:13:40.859 predicted this at the beginning of the year. 01:13:40.939 --> 01:13:44.579 In our season preview, we were talking about 01:13:44.579 --> 01:13:47.340 that the onus this year was to be scoring more 01:13:47.340 --> 01:13:49.640 goals offensively, but it's going to come at 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:53.350 a cost of defensive... You know, it's going to 01:13:53.350 --> 01:13:57.390 come at the cost of defensive shape. Yeah. Yeah. 01:13:57.930 --> 01:14:03.170 So, yeah. I'm all about winning championships. 01:14:03.270 --> 01:14:06.170 I don't care how we do it. You can't take away 01:14:06.170 --> 01:14:08.229 the star. That's all I'm going to say. I don't 01:14:08.229 --> 01:14:13.069 care if we win 8 -0 versus 1 -0. Just give me 01:14:13.069 --> 01:14:16.439 that star. Well, it's funny the way you said 01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:18.779 that. I was like, wait, who's the star in this 01:14:18.779 --> 01:14:20.340 scenario? Are you saying don't take away Jordan? 01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:23.159 Don't take away Paige? Don't take away that Jersey 01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:28.079 star. It took me a second, okay? I'm tired. I've 01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:29.819 been up since 1 in the morning, and I've got 01:14:29.819 --> 01:14:31.640 to get up in a few hours. It's your bedtime. 01:14:31.859 --> 01:14:35.060 So what we've got to ask you is Sounders are 01:14:35.060 --> 01:14:37.880 on the road at Lumen Field this coming Thursday. 01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:42.039 Yes, it's a road game. Yes, it is at our home 01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:47.609 stadium. Wait, real quick before you do that. 01:14:47.670 --> 01:14:51.949 Hey, if you are, you know, if you're a Sounders 01:14:51.949 --> 01:14:54.090 fan, especially if you're bilingual or even if 01:14:54.090 --> 01:14:57.149 you're not bilingual, but if you speak Spanish. 01:14:58.029 --> 01:15:00.770 get involved with the Vamos Sounders Club. It's 01:15:00.770 --> 01:15:03.289 a free club to sign up. You'll get newsletters 01:15:03.289 --> 01:15:06.189 about the club in Spanish, but they'll give you 01:15:06.189 --> 01:15:08.130 two free tickets to one of the League's Cup games. 01:15:08.390 --> 01:15:11.149 Now, the Cruz Azul game, that ticket offer is 01:15:11.149 --> 01:15:14.170 sold out for those games. They're all gone. But 01:15:14.170 --> 01:15:17.670 you can get two free tickets to the Santos Laguna 01:15:17.670 --> 01:15:23.050 or Club Tijuana game. Go to the, yeah, so Vamos 01:15:23.050 --> 01:15:26.739 Sounders. I've got the QR code that I've been 01:15:26.739 --> 01:15:29.199 sharing with people left and right. I've been 01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:32.319 actually having wonderful conversations with 01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:35.800 people about this. I've probably gotten at least 01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:39.600 two dozen people signed up for these games. So 01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:49.670 I'm pretty happy about that. Yes, that big green 01:15:49.670 --> 01:15:54.630 box with the Bienvenidos to Sounders. You think 01:15:54.630 --> 01:15:57.109 I should get tickets to Cholos on Wednesday? 01:15:57.229 --> 01:16:01.670 Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I think you 01:16:01.670 --> 01:16:03.649 should go check that out. Okay. You should go 01:16:03.649 --> 01:16:06.090 check that out. It looks like you can get tickets 01:16:06.090 --> 01:16:08.449 in the green zone, the 100 -level north corners, 01:16:08.590 --> 01:16:11.890 or the 200 -level corner and upper south end 01:16:11.890 --> 01:16:16.680 zone. So that is non -club seat. corners but 01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.619 if you if you when you when you choosing where 01:16:18.619 --> 01:16:23.760 are you choosing to sit when i go to games you 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:28.159 know i'm always in ecs you know but if i'm recommending 01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:31.079 if i'm recommending to other people i'm recommending 01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:33.600 them to sit as close to the brom end as possible 01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:37.460 personally um you know take in that atmosphere 01:16:37.460 --> 01:16:40.180 for sure you know i don't know if you get a choice 01:16:40.180 --> 01:16:42.039 that specific or do you just have to say where 01:16:43.050 --> 01:16:45.449 Because when you click on the zone, it'll tell 01:16:45.449 --> 01:16:48.250 you which section and which row and yeah, it 01:16:48.250 --> 01:16:51.229 dials you in even more. Yeah. So, okay, cool. 01:16:51.310 --> 01:16:53.149 Yeah. I definitely will have to do that since 01:16:53.149 --> 01:16:58.989 I have not gotten my use my Vamo Sounders tickets 01:16:58.989 --> 01:17:03.069 yet. But, but yeah, so again, I challenge each 01:17:03.069 --> 01:17:06.090 of you listening, even if you're not going to 01:17:06.090 --> 01:17:08.310 leagues cup or you're not available, you know, 01:17:08.310 --> 01:17:11.579 share that link. Share that with someone you 01:17:11.579 --> 01:17:13.739 know that might be a Sounders fan. Share that 01:17:13.739 --> 01:17:16.739 with someone who, frankly, doesn't get a chance 01:17:16.739 --> 01:17:20.100 to go to many games. Maybe it's a financial consideration. 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.020 Just try and encourage them, hey, go to this 01:17:23.020 --> 01:17:25.180 game. I believe you also, if you're willing to 01:17:25.180 --> 01:17:27.020 stand in line, you get a free trucker's hat. 01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:30.819 I think a Vamos trucker's hat. I haven't seen 01:17:30.819 --> 01:17:34.020 the design on that yet. A little secondary, but 01:17:34.020 --> 01:17:36.119 still, the important part, these things matter 01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:38.300 to some people. I literally have been talking 01:17:38.300 --> 01:17:41.920 with... Uh, right now my job puts me into, um, 01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:45.720 many restaurants and back rooms. Uh, so I'm, 01:17:45.739 --> 01:17:48.079 I'm, I'm getting to interact with a lot of people 01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:51.239 who English is not their first language. And, 01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:55.159 you know, we, we start talking about soccer and 01:17:55.159 --> 01:17:58.060 I explain what this program is watching people's 01:17:58.060 --> 01:18:01.039 faces light up, go, wait, wait, free, free, free. 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.579 And like, yeah, yeah. And, and walking them through 01:18:04.579 --> 01:18:08.779 the process and. And seeing them just excited 01:18:08.779 --> 01:18:12.920 to be able to go to a game. And especially, you 01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:15.699 know, some of them, you know, grew up watching, 01:18:15.739 --> 01:18:18.699 you know, League Amex, you know. And that was 01:18:18.699 --> 01:18:22.279 their game. Become a fan of a second team, you 01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:27.079 know. Yeah, exactly. And so it's a great, great 01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:31.000 program. And obviously it's successful with the 01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:36.409 Cruz Azul game being sold out. from that perspective. 01:18:54.210 --> 01:18:55.890 Cameron, do you have anything else you'd like 01:18:55.890 --> 01:19:00.350 to add? Yeah, I just got kicked out for a second. 01:19:00.390 --> 01:19:04.340 You sure did. We'll say what you just said again 01:19:04.340 --> 01:19:10.199 in case something was lost. I was expecting you 01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:12.020 to come back in, so I was just kind of winding 01:19:12.020 --> 01:19:17.380 down and wrapping up. No, what was the... I need 01:19:17.380 --> 01:19:19.640 your score prediction for... Oh, that's right. 01:19:19.859 --> 01:19:21.260 That's right, because I will be doing the score 01:19:21.260 --> 01:19:27.220 predictions for these. Oh, you know what? If 01:19:27.220 --> 01:19:31.720 we put our ideal starting 11... We get the 1 01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:34.939 -0 win. We get the goal we should have gotten 01:19:34.939 --> 01:19:40.460 and we take it because we're going to want some... 01:19:40.460 --> 01:19:45.539 It's a revenge game. It's kind of the equivalent 01:19:45.539 --> 01:19:48.720 of the LAFC. It's hard to beat the same team 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:52.659 three times in a year. Even though they did not 01:19:52.659 --> 01:19:54.960 beat us in the first game. I know that. I recognize 01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:57.119 that. But we also got our ass kicked in Mexico 01:19:57.119 --> 01:20:00.409 City and I don't think that... I don't think 01:20:00.409 --> 01:20:04.350 the players forgot that, and I think it left 01:20:04.350 --> 01:20:10.970 a bad taste. So I expect us to treat this with 01:20:10.970 --> 01:20:15.789 an intensity no matter who's in the starting 01:20:15.789 --> 01:20:21.609 11. So I'm going to say 1 -0 in a tough match, 01:20:21.850 --> 01:20:25.069 and I think Andy's going to make some key plays. 01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:28.460 We're going to get some good moments there, but 01:20:28.460 --> 01:20:34.060 it'll be a deserved 1 -0. Nice, nice. I'll go 01:20:34.060 --> 01:20:37.699 1 -1. I think we get the draw we need out of 01:20:37.699 --> 01:20:41.979 it and move forward. And that's fair. That's 01:20:41.979 --> 01:20:45.000 fair. I mean, I try to be an optimist, and I 01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.939 don't want to root for, yeah. And their season 01:20:48.939 --> 01:20:52.500 is not starting yet, so they are. So they're 01:20:52.500 --> 01:20:54.539 in a different – Oh, they haven't played yet? 01:20:54.579 --> 01:20:56.539 Because I think the league itself is like two 01:20:56.539 --> 01:21:00.300 games in. Yeah, Cruz Azul has not played yet. 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:05.260 Interesting. Cool. Oh, I'm sorry. I got that 01:21:05.260 --> 01:21:07.619 backwards. Nope, nope. You're right. You're right. 01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:10.560 They have played three. They've won one drawn 01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:15.420 two. So I was looking at the wrong thing. And 01:21:15.420 --> 01:21:17.699 we don't know their lineup anymore because I'm 01:21:17.699 --> 01:21:21.210 sure they had some moves. So, you know. Stay 01:21:21.210 --> 01:21:22.529 tuned to that. I'm sure there'll be a lot of 01:21:22.529 --> 01:21:26.329 discussion around that. You're not wrong. All 01:21:26.329 --> 01:21:27.989 right, well, Cameron, where can they find you? 01:21:28.770 --> 01:21:32.229 You can find me at LegalMindedPunk on all these 01:21:32.229 --> 01:21:35.529 social medias. How about you? You can find me 01:21:35.529 --> 01:21:40.569 at Cascades2C on Instagram, and come find me 01:21:40.569 --> 01:21:44.130 at Nicholas on Discord. Come join me into our 01:21:44.130 --> 01:21:47.869 conversations, and let's have some fun. Yeah. 01:21:48.490 --> 01:21:50.050 Absolutely. All right, everybody, we'll catch 01:21:50.050 --> 01:22:17.720 you next time. Be sure to subscribe to the show 01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:20.039 for new episodes following every Sounders FC 01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:22.659 match. And don't forget to share your feedback 01:22:22.659 --> 01:22:25.819 by rating and reviewing. And you can follow me 01:22:25.819 --> 01:22:29.539 on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook at BritVoxus. 01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:33.960 That's BritVoxUS. We'll see you at Lumen and 01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:40.880 go Sounders! Alexa, who's the best MLS team of 01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:44.939 all time? The Seattle Sounders are both unequipped 01:22:44.939 --> 01:22:47.359 and they are arguably the best MLS team of all 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:47.800 time.