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It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes

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from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest

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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,

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your moment. Hello and welcome to another episode

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of Scuttlebutt Ultras. I am one of your hosts,

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Cameron Collins, and I am here. It's Peter and

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Alex. What is up, you two? Yo, yo. What's going

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on, guys? Big, big week in Sounders land. Good

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game. Bad injury news. Good injury news. Lots

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of stuff. How we feeling? Better than after the

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Rapids game last week. Yeah, I can. I agree with

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you on that, Cedar. We're very content at the

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moment. I'll be honest. I don't even remember

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the Rapids game at this point because so much

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has happened since then. Did we win the Rapids

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game? No, we didn't. We blew a 3 -0 lead. That's

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right. For the first time in our history at Lumen,

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yeah. Yeah, good times. It was great. So is there

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any news from around the league we want to hit

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on? MLS All -Star Game, I know you both were

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kind of talking about it. Messi didn't play,

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Jordi Alba didn't play. We don't know yet if

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there'll be any punishment for them not playing.

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I think some of the arguments people have been

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making anti -Messi about it are disingenuous.

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They compared the minutes Hany Mukhtar has played

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to Messi, but I think Messi's twice his age,

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so I don't know if that is really the same thing.

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But did you watch the match? What did you think

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of it? Is there anything to take away from the

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fact that the MLS All -Stars beat Liga MX? I

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watched a little bit of the end of it, but I

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watched the highlights. So I really don't know

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much about what happened. But I think as far

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as MLS beating Liga MX is that they're barely

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starting their season. And we're already halfway

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through our season. So most of the MLS players

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are already in game routine, game form, whereas

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the League of MX players are still trying to

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get fitness. So for them, it was more of a preseason

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tour where they just got to play a game, sign

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autographs, and take photos. Yeah, I ended up,

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I was working for the All -Star game, so I just

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watched the highlights. I was, I was sick on

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Tuesday, so I stayed home from work and I ended

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up watching a lot of the all -star skills challenge.

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And it was, you know, it was, it was mildly entertaining.

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It was, it was, uh, it was something to watch.

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Um, it was, it was cool, but, um, yeah, I, I

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guess the takeaway from maybe messy and Geordie

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album not joining is, I mean, I don't. I don't

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really care because, again, it's just all -stars.

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I mean, we see this in other sports, right? Guys

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who should make the Pro Bowl, who should make

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the all -star game, end up not making it. And

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I guess it sounds like they opted out of playing,

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and so maybe the league obviously is mad at that.

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But as somebody who doesn't really care about

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that, I just... I don't care, but I wouldn't

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be surprised if the league does punish them for

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that somehow. I mean, you're supposed to be suspended

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if you don't play. Anyone who isn't them would

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be suspended. So the question is, will they be?

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Garber says they're working on it, whatever that

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is. They're going to slap on the wrist. They're

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not going to get suspended. Yeah, I've seen a

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video and it's just like, they're going to get

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a pass this time. So don't be surprised when...

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They don't get suspended for a match or get a

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fine. Fine is fine, I think, but they got to

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do something. I think the messy hatred has gotten

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a little out of control. I mean, people criticize

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him for things that he has no control over and

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don't give him credit for things that he can

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control. So it seems like if you can't beat him...

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Just shit on them is where they're at right now.

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I think they're just mad that he didn't go to

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their team. Yeah. Whereas I'm just mad that our

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team doesn't have that kind of ambition. We don't

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got the money. I don't know if signing him is

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the best move, but that's a little bit of higher

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level signing than I think would be worth it

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monetarily because they're going to be screwed

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once their tickets are still that high and he's

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gone. Yeah. You know, I would take any forward

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at this point. They'll have Rodrigo the Paul.

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He'll sell tickets. No, he won't. No Americans

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heard of him. Hey, hey now. He's not getting

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people to come in and, you know, people aren't

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going to try and watch him, basically. He's not

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that kind of player. Well, you know what MLS

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needs to do? They need to bring in... the best

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soccer player in the world, according to the

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ESPYs, Christian Pulisic. I mean, he's the best

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American soccer player. He'll take a lot of rest

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days. Load management. Yeah, he's made of glass.

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He was at Chelsea. He missed everything. Did

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he still win the Champions League? I don't think

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so. It's been a while since we've won a Champions

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League. And with Chelsea, I mean, they have so

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many players on their roster, right? I mean,

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don't like 40 people win a trophy whenever they

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win a trophy? They need a double -decker bus.

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More than that. Two of them. Yeah, I mean, last

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year they were sending people away just because

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there was too many people and they couldn't have

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them all at training. It seems like maybe they

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figured it out a little bit. Yeah, I don't get

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the messy hate either. Honestly, I want to beat

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him. I'm glad he's in the league. I'm waiting

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for the Sanders to get to play inter -Miami so

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that we can actually get a chance at beating

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the guy. We play at Miami this year, don't we?

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I think we do. they gave away at the rave gala

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this past weekend they gave away a trip to miami

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on september 16th uh we played down there which

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is a weirdly enough it's a tuesday huh which

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is bizarre and we hosted the galaxy three days

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before that uh i wonder if there's a two -week

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break before that that probably has to do with

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League's Cup in some fashion. I don't know. Is

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the League's Cup final like the end of August?

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Let me check. I checked how much players are

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on the senior roster for Chelsea. It's 43 currently.

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Yeah, but they have less than they had last year

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for sure. But yeah, the League's Cup final falls

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on the 31st. Last year was August 25th. Is it

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31st this year? Yeah, August 31st is scheduled.

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Yeah. So right now the Sounders have a game scheduled

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August 30th at home versus rail Salt Lake. So

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that might need to be rescheduled if we decide

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to actually show up for the tournament. I hope

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so. I'm maybe, I don't know. I think we have

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played outside of the champions league where

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we did the run in one. So maybe this isn't fair

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in all of the playoff finals and all the big

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games we'll say. So MLS cup finals. We've showed

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up for a total of one half. Didn't show up for

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MLS Cup 2016. Didn't show up for MLS Cup 2017.

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We had one half in MLS Cup 2019 that was good.

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Didn't show up for MLS Cup 2020. Didn't show

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up for that first Leafs Cup final. We don't show

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up in big games. So maybe Club World Cup was

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a change for that. But the Sounders are not known,

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despite having two championships, I think we've

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won them in spite of ourselves because of penalties.

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Do you think that the reason we don't show up

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to the games is on the players or the coaches?

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What do you think is more so the reason for that?

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I think there is a strong movement by our coaches

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that prevent... They don't play the hot hand.

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They play their favorites. And I think when Gonzo

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was here, he was able to convince them to play

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the hot hand. And that's why we saw success and

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actually won in 2019. He was gone in 2020 already.

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He had already gone out to Alaska to be interviewed

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for the Atlanta job and then got COVID and wasn't

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there for the final. And so we didn't go with

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our hot players. We went with... Schmetzer's

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favorite players and then got absolutely smoked.

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Didn't help that Niko was hurt. Didn't help that

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Jovan Jones was hurt and didn't help that rookie.

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I think he was rookie, maybe second year. Alex

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rolled on, was left on an Island and got no help.

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I don't blame him for that, but yeah, I mean,

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I think there's lots of, and Caleb Porter just

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has always had our number for whatever reason.

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Well, Morris showed up that day, Aiden Morris.

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unfortunately but yeah i mean what i remember

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all i remember from that game is aiden morris

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and i hate it uh and aiden morris i feel like

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because we're not a fan of his team he's felt

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like a flash in the pan he was supposed to be

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the next big usa player and uh he hasn't developed

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in that but i don't know how much is him Not

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developing in that versus not just having the

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opportunities because he was in the MLS at the

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time. I think he's moved on now, right? Is he

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in Europe somewhere? I think he might be, or

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at least he was linked to somewhere. So yeah,

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he's in the championship for Middlesbrough. Oh

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no, it looks like he might be in, oh no, the

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preseason trip to Portugal. So yeah, he plays

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for Middlesbrough, which is good for him. Only

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23, plenty of time to make an impact. Definitely

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a cool player to watch. Not the highest valued

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player at the moment, but continues to grow.

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So he has nine appearances for USA. Sounds about

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right. Also four for the U23s, which he debuted

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at in October, which was after he was already

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playing for the USA. so october 2023 so that's

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pretty interesting that he he played for the

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usa and then went back down to play for the u23s

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they're like we could use you yeah he scored

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a goal for them so i'm sure he's uh i think i

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think spain's done that with some of their players

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yeah spain has so many good players that they

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definitely have the ability to to do that um

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interestingly His debut, I know this is way off

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topic, but we're going to bring it back. Aiden

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Morris' debut for the U23s took place in a match

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where Obed Vargas scored a goal for the USA.

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The one and only. That's painful. That is painful.

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What was the tournament? What was the competition?

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It doesn't say. It doesn't say. It was against

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Mexico. 2 -1 victory for the USA with Obed scoring

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the game -winning shot in the 90th minute and

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then Mexico got their sole goal in the 93rd minute.

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Taylor Booth missed a penalty for the US. It

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was saved. I don't know what the tournament was,

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but it definitely was against Mexico. Wait, you

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said that game took place October 12th? October

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11th, 2020. Oh, it was just a friendly. That's

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what AI is saying. Yep. At Phoenix Rising Soccer

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Stadium. 41st match day of the year for U23s,

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I guess. 41st week of the year. I don't know

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which, but that brings us back to Obed Vargas,

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who did get in roughly 30 minutes just under,

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I think, in the MLS All -Star game. Much deserving

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of being there. I don't think he was my highest

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sounder in the list for being there, but pretty

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cool to see him get some minutes. Absolutely.

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I feel like out of everybody on our team, whether

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or not you could make an argument that, Somebody

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else, maybe like an Albert Rusnak, should have

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been more deserving of being an All -Star. I

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think that for somebody like Obed, he's going

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to gain a lot out of getting to be an All -Star,

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getting to play against Liga Mechis. He's still

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so young. It's got to be a really, really cool

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experience for him. I'm glad he got to go. Yeah,

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and being able to train with all of the... all

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-stars from other teams around the league. I

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think, especially him being such a young player,

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the best thing he could do is be a sponge and

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just soak up everything that everyone else is

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doing so he could perform at the top level and

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make the jump to Europe. Yeah, I think they were

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expecting him to be phenomenal in the Club World

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Cup. And he was pretty poor leading up to the

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Club World Cup. And he was fine in the Club World

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Cup, but he hasn't been playing to the level

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they hoped that he would so that they could showcase

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him in that tournament. So this is another chance

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for them to be showcased. No, I think, yeah,

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I think it's, no, it's like bringing all this

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attention to him. It's like, okay, now the people

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are going to start to watch now. So like all

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eyes on me type of thing. What do you guys think

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that Obed's realistic ceiling is in terms of

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playing in Europe? What kind of league do you

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think would be kind of perfect for him? One where

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he would excel? You mean in -game or next steps?

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I guess both. You know, like what, like what,

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what's the, what's the true potential there?

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Like, what do you, like his highest potential?

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Yeah. Yeah. Like what's your read on like where

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it might, if everything goes well, right? No,

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no big injuries, you know, and he, he does realize

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his potential. What could that be? What could

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that look like? I think for me, it's, it comes

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down to either Portugal or Spain. I can see him.

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Like, the way that if Diego Simeone is still

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the coach in the next five years, I can see him,

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if he continues to improve, I can see him being

00:16:29.090 --> 00:16:32.509
a midfielder that would play in an Atletico Madrid

00:16:32.509 --> 00:16:36.330
midfield. Just like a box -to -box, does the

00:16:36.330 --> 00:16:39.889
work at the defensive end, does help on the offensive

00:16:39.889 --> 00:16:43.190
end. Kind of similar to the role that Rodrigo

00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:46.830
Depaul did when he was there. That's kind of

00:16:46.830 --> 00:16:48.830
like... the role that i can see your bit taking

00:16:48.830 --> 00:16:55.710
yeah i think i think it you know his move to

00:16:55.710 --> 00:16:58.289
mexico completely changes that path right like

00:16:58.289 --> 00:17:04.329
you we have a a lot of mexican players in the

00:17:04.329 --> 00:17:08.930
premier league uh in uh just across different

00:17:08.930 --> 00:17:13.660
uh league spain you know What's the Portuguese

00:17:13.660 --> 00:17:17.160
league name now? Whatever, N03 or whatever. Yeah,

00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:24.460
but it's got the tag in front of it. But if he'd

00:17:24.460 --> 00:17:26.220
still been with the USA, I think Germany would

00:17:26.220 --> 00:17:27.460
have been where they would have sent him because

00:17:27.460 --> 00:17:29.200
that seems to be where our players tend to go.

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And I don't know why, if that's cultural, but

00:17:33.460 --> 00:17:36.119
we've always had that link with Germany and it's

00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:37.640
been a place a lot of our players have gone.

00:17:38.299 --> 00:17:42.690
I think his playing style probably fits. ultimately

00:17:42.690 --> 00:17:46.869
best in, I would say England, but I don't think

00:17:46.869 --> 00:17:50.210
he's going straight there. I think unless you're

00:17:50.210 --> 00:17:54.849
sending him over to one of the bigger mid -high

00:17:54.849 --> 00:17:57.329
level leagues, so not Spain, not England, not

00:17:57.329 --> 00:18:00.309
Germany, but one of the other leagues, I don't

00:18:00.309 --> 00:18:03.250
think he goes, right? They're not just going

00:18:03.250 --> 00:18:08.779
to sell him to Belgium. If he's going to go,

00:18:08.819 --> 00:18:10.660
he's going to go play for a big team. What about

00:18:10.660 --> 00:18:16.500
a Netherlands? If I'm him, I'm not. You're going

00:18:16.500 --> 00:18:19.640
to get more looks here than you are there, just

00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.799
based on media. You get Champions League, though,

00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:27.819
if you go to an Ajax or a Feyenoord. If you're

00:18:27.819 --> 00:18:29.880
going to Ajax, sure. I just don't think that

00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.339
he's going to a top team in a league. He's more

00:18:33.339 --> 00:18:36.269
likely to go to a... low -level Premier League

00:18:36.269 --> 00:18:38.430
team or a high -level championship team before

00:18:38.430 --> 00:18:42.549
he's going to be able to go to an Ajax or a Fenerbahce

00:18:42.549 --> 00:18:47.750
or a team like that. What's the other team in

00:18:47.750 --> 00:18:52.609
Turkey that's huge? Galatasaray? Galatasaray,

00:18:52.769 --> 00:18:58.289
yeah. I feel like a move to Portugal isn't unrealistic.

00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:02.880
No, I think that's realistic. I don't know if

00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:10.599
it's too Porto or one of the top two, but I think

00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:16.319
he could gain a lot of benefit from being there.

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The question is, how's his Portuguese, right?

00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:21.400
Just because you speak Spanish doesn't mean you

00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:25.180
speak Portuguese. They seem pretty different.

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I mean, you can understand a bit, but it's like

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if you took... spanish and put german in there

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he needs to get on duolingo and start practicing

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yeah same with like still if you go to spain

00:19:38.950 --> 00:19:40.390
they don't know how to speak spanish in spain

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they have they have a list like how would you

00:19:43.170 --> 00:19:45.849
take this beautiful romance language and ruin

00:19:45.849 --> 00:19:49.910
it by adding a lisp well and then like let's

00:19:49.910 --> 00:19:53.849
say you're in um uh you know if he ended up like

00:19:53.849 --> 00:19:56.109
at barcelona or something he'd have to learn

00:19:56.109 --> 00:20:03.410
catalonia But would they even be able to register

00:20:03.410 --> 00:20:07.170
him? They can't register him. I don't think they

00:20:07.170 --> 00:20:12.369
can register Rashford. I think I would see him

00:20:12.369 --> 00:20:15.289
more likely to go... He's not at that level,

00:20:15.349 --> 00:20:17.730
right? He has to gain. He has to double or triple

00:20:17.730 --> 00:20:21.809
his value. Even for a Nottingham Forest or a

00:20:21.809 --> 00:20:24.269
team like that. They're not getting players of

00:20:24.269 --> 00:20:26.210
his caliber. They're getting players double his

00:20:26.210 --> 00:20:28.670
caliber. So he's far more likely to go to a championship

00:20:28.670 --> 00:20:30.869
team right now than any other team, unless he

00:20:30.869 --> 00:20:33.029
has a spurt and productivity that shows that

00:20:33.029 --> 00:20:37.549
he's, if he's Aussie level good, suddenly other

00:20:37.549 --> 00:20:40.130
teams start looking at him at his age. But right

00:20:40.130 --> 00:20:42.690
now he's not showing anything to me that shows

00:20:42.690 --> 00:20:46.609
me that he's going to be anywhere near a top

00:20:46.609 --> 00:20:49.650
team, unless he's in their youth Academy. And

00:20:49.650 --> 00:20:51.230
I don't think that's a good move for him. He

00:20:51.230 --> 00:20:53.839
needs to go to a team where he can, show up,

00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.720
boss out, and then move up. Where did Patrick

00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:04.339
Ajiman go to Derby County? Or was it... Patrick

00:21:04.339 --> 00:21:11.559
Ajiman? I think he left Charlotte. Did he go

00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:16.680
to the championship or League 1? He plays...

00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.460
Yeah, he went to the championship for Derby County.

00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:24.359
See, so then... And I don't necessarily... And

00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:26.019
they're a team that's at the top of the championship.

00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:31.119
So, I mean, you could see him... That's what

00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:33.339
I think. I could see him signing for a top championship

00:21:33.339 --> 00:21:37.519
team. Like a Norwich. Because if Norwich is doing

00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:40.480
all right, I mean, they're up and down, but I

00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:43.619
think they've been struggling a little bit lately.

00:21:43.660 --> 00:21:45.380
They have some good players right now in that

00:21:45.380 --> 00:21:49.849
position, I think. You know, Lester is always

00:21:49.849 --> 00:21:54.089
a good team. Brian. Somebody, someone that you

00:21:54.089 --> 00:21:57.210
could see them do well. QPR hasn't really been

00:21:57.210 --> 00:22:01.109
lately, I don't think. You know, maybe he just

00:22:01.109 --> 00:22:02.789
needs to get in with that Wrexham crowd and be

00:22:02.789 --> 00:22:08.150
on TV. I mean, why not? American owners. I know.

00:22:08.269 --> 00:22:10.809
Need to get on their radar. Somebody call up.

00:22:10.869 --> 00:22:13.700
Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds is Canadian, but

00:22:13.700 --> 00:22:17.140
yeah. Rob Mack now. He changed his name. We'll

00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:19.019
just get on Mint Mobile if they're still doing

00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:25.079
that. Yeah. No, I think if Obed really wants

00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.880
to make the jump, we have to see almost like

00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:31.660
an MVP -like season from him, which I don't think

00:22:31.660 --> 00:22:34.579
he's at that level yet. I think so. I think he

00:22:34.579 --> 00:22:36.359
can make it to the championship fine where he's

00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.740
at right now. I just think it won't be one of

00:22:38.740 --> 00:22:40.940
those top, the teams that are going into the

00:22:40.940 --> 00:22:45.279
Premier League. next year right like uh because

00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:47.900
i don't like rexham is not people who think they

00:22:47.900 --> 00:22:51.539
are they're not that unless they get a huge chunk

00:22:51.539 --> 00:22:53.359
of investment that lets them make a bunch of

00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:57.599
uh winter signings i can't imagine that they

00:22:57.599 --> 00:22:59.779
are going i mean it takes years and years right

00:22:59.779 --> 00:23:03.640
they've just been uh very lucky and got the right

00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:05.660
amount of investment but each level there's more

00:23:05.660 --> 00:23:08.759
and more investment that has to go through so

00:23:10.410 --> 00:23:15.230
I, yeah, I just, but a team could sign him based

00:23:15.230 --> 00:23:20.349
on his, you know, maybe a Swansea who we already

00:23:20.349 --> 00:23:23.369
have a relationship with where he could go over

00:23:23.369 --> 00:23:27.410
and play and help them, you know, QPR middle

00:23:27.410 --> 00:23:31.890
of the table team. So someone like that Darby

00:23:31.890 --> 00:23:35.259
County is, you know, bottom. Six, seven teams,

00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:38.480
either 19th in the table. So, yeah, you can see

00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:40.819
them going to a team like that where he could

00:23:40.819 --> 00:23:43.420
help, but isn't going to be in the Premier League

00:23:43.420 --> 00:23:45.980
next year because I can't see them bringing him

00:23:45.980 --> 00:23:48.480
along unless he's sitting on the bench yet. But

00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.759
yes, MVP caliber team or play play is what we

00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:59.960
need. That would be nice. Why don't we take a

00:23:59.960 --> 00:24:04.490
quick break here? And then come back and talk

00:24:04.490 --> 00:24:27.069
about this match from Saturday. Hey, everybody.

00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:29.589
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00:24:29.710 --> 00:24:32.089
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-M. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.160
And we're back. What were you just saying about

00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:10.859
Kezar? Yeah, so Kezar Stadium in Golden Gate

00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:15.359
Park where I live in old San Francisco. Apparently

00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:24.160
they are getting they are getting like they got

00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:29.900
the okay to I'm looking at the article right

00:26:29.900 --> 00:26:35.119
now. The deal grants golden city football club,

00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:38.019
an initial 15 year permit to use the stadium

00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:41.259
and secures a $10 million commitment for upgrades.

00:26:41.859 --> 00:26:46.440
Um, and they will be an MLS next pro team. Um,

00:26:46.660 --> 00:26:49.460
so that'll be cool. I would love to get to see,

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:52.039
you know, the Tacoma defiance come down and play,

00:26:52.180 --> 00:26:58.039
you know, um, I, I, and it would be a way easier

00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:01.599
for me to get to keys are then. And driving all

00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:05.099
the way down to San Jose for Earthquake Sounders

00:27:05.099 --> 00:27:09.799
games. Or over to Sacramento. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.019
I guess we don't play Sacramento that often,

00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.240
but I feel like it's every other year we're playing

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.319
them in the U .S. Open Cup. Although, of course,

00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:17.880
that doesn't really happen with the Sounders

00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.980
anymore. If I can just hop on, you know, a bus

00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:25.960
and then a Muni train over to Kezar, I'm a happy

00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:30.619
camper. So, yeah, that would be cool. 10 ,000

00:27:30.619 --> 00:27:34.940
capacity, man. Kezar, home of one of the historic

00:27:34.940 --> 00:27:39.400
U .S. Open Cup Sounders matches between Seattle

00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:43.180
and San Jose were post -game. This was like,

00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.279
there was a fan who live streamed the game on

00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.359
Twitter and there was no TV, so that's how we

00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.140
all watched it, was a live stream through Twitter.

00:27:52.299 --> 00:27:55.160
And post -game, Eddie Johnson punched a San Jose

00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.559
player in the face. So one of the most iconic...

00:27:58.650 --> 00:28:01.789
Sounders matches ever took place in Kizar. We

00:28:01.789 --> 00:28:05.309
have to find that footage. Yeah, I want to watch

00:28:05.309 --> 00:28:12.069
it. That's sick. Hopefully he's still on Twitter.

00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:17.309
I don't think people understand the history of

00:28:17.309 --> 00:28:21.549
Kizar. It's amazing. It's been there. The 49ers

00:28:21.549 --> 00:28:24.730
played there from 1946 to 1970. The Raiders played

00:28:24.730 --> 00:28:27.109
there in 1960. Before that, Santa Clara football

00:28:27.109 --> 00:28:30.930
was there in 1935 and 1952. St. Mary's played

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:34.130
there in 1927 and 1950, which those are two,

00:28:34.170 --> 00:28:35.890
they were the biggest rivals of each other at

00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:39.349
the time. San Francisco football, USF played

00:28:39.349 --> 00:28:44.329
there in 1930 to 51 and 59 to 71. There was another

00:28:44.329 --> 00:28:46.829
pro team, football team that played there in

00:28:46.829 --> 00:28:49.900
67. San Francisco Bay Seals played there in 98

00:28:49.900 --> 00:28:54.519
-99. Wow. The Major League Lacrosse team, San

00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.599
Francisco Dragons played there in 06 -07. USL1

00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.079
team, California Victory played there. San Francisco

00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.680
Stompers of NPSL played there. Dogfish, Breeze,

00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.180
Deltas, and the San Francisco City FC play there.

00:29:09.299 --> 00:29:13.460
So there is a large soccer and football, American

00:29:13.460 --> 00:29:17.750
football history in that stadium. What I always

00:29:17.750 --> 00:29:20.650
find so fascinating is back in the day before

00:29:20.650 --> 00:29:24.230
they basically downsized it, because it used

00:29:24.230 --> 00:29:29.430
to be like 60 ,000, 70 ,000 capacity when the

00:29:29.430 --> 00:29:31.130
Niners were playing there and stuff. You have

00:29:31.130 --> 00:29:36.710
this giant stadium for an NFL team in just a

00:29:36.710 --> 00:29:39.569
sleepy little neighborhood in San Francisco.

00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:47.460
Just right down below. this i mean before the

00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:50.579
60s so it was before it became like hippie central

00:29:50.579 --> 00:29:54.440
no totally and and yeah just right in golden

00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.839
gate park there and you know people complain

00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.339
about parking in the city nowadays but i was

00:30:00.339 --> 00:30:03.039
just reading about the history of gizarre and

00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:04.740
everything people were complaining about parking

00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:07.579
back then you know because it was just like it

00:30:07.579 --> 00:30:12.259
was impossible um but yeah really cool that you

00:30:12.259 --> 00:30:16.740
know that's where The Niners were because I don't

00:30:16.740 --> 00:30:19.339
know. I think it's kind of cool. That's crazy.

00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.660
I mean, that's not that long ago. No, it isn't.

00:30:21.660 --> 00:30:24.079
And I think it's pretty important for a team

00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:28.359
to play within the city limits of the name that

00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:32.039
they bear, which the current Niners do not do.

00:30:32.259 --> 00:30:37.279
The Santa Clara 49ers. Yeah, exactly. And so,

00:30:37.299 --> 00:30:40.460
yeah, I just love that history. And then also

00:30:40.460 --> 00:30:45.450
it's it's. It's featured in Dirty Harry, which

00:30:45.450 --> 00:30:48.529
is a great, great film. Right after the 49ers'

00:30:48.569 --> 00:30:50.910
last game there, they started filming there,

00:30:50.950 --> 00:30:53.630
not long after. So it's pretty funny. I was just

00:30:53.630 --> 00:30:56.089
looking. The final game there was the 49ers lost

00:30:56.089 --> 00:31:00.910
17 -10 to the Cowboys. Let's go. Let's go. Shout

00:31:00.910 --> 00:31:07.690
out to Dan the Bastard. Yeah. So yeah, it's a

00:31:07.690 --> 00:31:11.309
pretty historic stadium linked to our Sounders.

00:31:11.450 --> 00:31:14.069
Oh, the San Francisco Gaelic football team played

00:31:14.069 --> 00:31:16.309
there too. That was their home stadium. That's

00:31:16.309 --> 00:31:20.289
pretty cool. Oh, do we have a domestic Gaelic

00:31:20.289 --> 00:31:22.490
football league here? We don't. I think it's

00:31:22.490 --> 00:31:26.410
more like clubs are set up and they will play.

00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:29.700
each other at high like their seattle team will

00:31:29.700 --> 00:31:32.519
play san francisco but it's not like they're

00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.339
playing in real tournaments it's that they play

00:31:34.339 --> 00:31:36.960
internally and then have a couple games a year

00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.720
against other teams around the country and there's

00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.220
like one tournament gotcha okay oh there was

00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:44.339
an ultimate team there i didn't realize that

00:31:44.339 --> 00:31:49.700
the san francisco dogfish all those golden gate

00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:52.680
parks so you know yeah and the cricket the cricket

00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.220
team that was there for a little bit uh I don't

00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:58.099
even know. It doesn't even say what it was named.

00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.400
San Francisco Freedom were there. Because San

00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.119
Francisco does not have a Major League Cricket

00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:04.900
team, I do not believe. Have you heard about

00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:07.440
that? I don't think I've seen one. I know we

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:11.180
have the Seattle Orcas here. Speaking of which,

00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.079
where do the Orcas play? And have you guys been

00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:18.880
to a game? They play in Dallas. So right now,

00:32:18.980 --> 00:32:22.559
Major League Cricket plays one tournament in

00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.279
Dallas over a three -week period. where all the

00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:29.160
teams come together. That makes sense. This year,

00:32:29.339 --> 00:32:31.880
they finally started doing stuff in the community

00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.960
here. I think it's anticipation of the league

00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.480
eventually going out and actually playing, and

00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.000
they'll play at Marymoor Park across the water.

00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:43.940
That's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited.

00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.220
When they announced the team, I started paying

00:32:46.220 --> 00:32:48.140
attention to cricket a little more and learned

00:32:48.140 --> 00:32:51.559
some of the rules. I don't know. I don't think

00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.980
Alex is much of a cricket man. That's why you

00:32:53.980 --> 00:33:01.240
hear crickets from me. Eddie Johnson, Kezar Puncher,

00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:06.599
yes. It was a big stadium right there near the

00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.200
water. I got to imagine that land is worth a

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:14.779
lot, but it's on a public park, thankfully. Yeah,

00:33:14.779 --> 00:33:19.559
well, like I said, if the Tacoma Defiance are

00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.079
going to come play at Golden Gate Park, I'm going

00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.250
to be there. Let's make it happen. Live streaming

00:33:25.250 --> 00:33:28.970
on Twitter. I will do that. I will do that for

00:33:28.970 --> 00:33:35.230
you guys. I'll bring the GoPro. Amazing. So one

00:33:35.230 --> 00:33:38.170
thing we should mention, since usually I talk

00:33:38.170 --> 00:33:39.789
about this on the main show because it's not

00:33:39.789 --> 00:33:42.029
a feature of this show, but I don't think we're

00:33:42.029 --> 00:33:43.869
going to get an episode in, was that Hulk Hogan

00:33:43.869 --> 00:33:46.289
passed away today. A lot of people got mad at

00:33:46.289 --> 00:33:51.109
me for shit -talking him. Dude is kind of a bad

00:33:51.109 --> 00:33:56.809
guy. He's a legend. I have his autograph. I loved

00:33:56.809 --> 00:34:00.130
him as a wrestler, but he spent a lot of years

00:34:00.130 --> 00:34:04.829
doing a lot of really shitty stuff. I'm that

00:34:04.829 --> 00:34:07.069
negative Nancy. Do you all have any positive

00:34:07.069 --> 00:34:09.010
things to say about Hulk Hogan and the impact

00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:15.590
he had on your lives? No. I just know he's a

00:34:15.590 --> 00:34:19.010
wrestler. That's it. I'm not into wrestling.

00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:22.369
I never got into it. I know it's a big deal.

00:34:22.969 --> 00:34:28.610
I had a run when I was in high school as well

00:34:28.610 --> 00:34:33.429
when he moved over to the other guys. WCW? See,

00:34:33.489 --> 00:34:36.750
that's how little I know. Oh, right, right, right.

00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:41.909
In New World Order. I had a wrestling game on

00:34:41.909 --> 00:34:45.610
a PS3 and I played that for maybe a year or two.

00:34:46.650 --> 00:34:48.590
The only wrestler I really knew was Roman Reigns.

00:34:49.750 --> 00:34:52.690
Yeah. Well, you know The Rock, his cousin. Oh,

00:34:52.710 --> 00:34:55.469
yeah. The Rock. The Uso brothers. I know a little

00:34:55.469 --> 00:35:00.449
bit. Like the Samoans. You're like, I know this

00:35:00.449 --> 00:35:04.010
guy. I know all of them. I know Rey Mysterio,

00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:07.349
but that's just because I'm Mexican. The only

00:35:07.349 --> 00:35:11.110
wrestling I know is Nacho Libre. That's all I

00:35:11.110 --> 00:35:13.929
know. Hey, that's a good movie. It's a great

00:35:13.929 --> 00:35:17.659
movie. Awesome movie. I watched a documentary

00:35:17.659 --> 00:35:19.639
at some point that kind of broke down the real

00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.860
-life wrestling leagues behind what Nacho Libre

00:35:23.860 --> 00:35:26.179
is depicting. It was pretty cool. I think it

00:35:26.179 --> 00:35:28.519
was a Vice documentary. You know what, though?

00:35:28.579 --> 00:35:30.300
We might see Nacho Libre at the League's Cup

00:35:30.300 --> 00:35:34.179
game against Actress Azul. Like people dressed

00:35:34.179 --> 00:35:35.860
in Nacho Libre clothes? There might be someone

00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:41.519
dressed as a Nacho Libre. I don't know what you

00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.760
call it, but yes, I've seen people dressed in

00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.420
that wrestling gear. Yeah, Luchadores. Thank

00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:51.940
you. I have seen that before at games in Seattle

00:35:51.940 --> 00:35:54.800
versus teams from Mexico. Are they shouting blue?

00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:04.900
Blue. Blue. Oh, my God. And then Ozzy Osbourne

00:36:04.900 --> 00:36:08.179
just died. Yeah. And Theo Huxtable. Those were

00:36:08.179 --> 00:36:14.750
our three from the Cosby show. Oh, right. Malcolm

00:36:14.750 --> 00:36:20.690
Jamal Warner. Yeah, that's right. Malcolm Jamal

00:36:20.690 --> 00:36:22.769
Warner was not that old. Very sad passing. He

00:36:22.769 --> 00:36:24.889
and his daughter were drowning and they tried

00:36:24.889 --> 00:36:26.769
to save them. They saved the daughter, but they

00:36:26.769 --> 00:36:30.150
couldn't save him. Some local surfers jumped

00:36:30.150 --> 00:36:37.010
in the water in Costa Rica. I don't mean to sound

00:36:37.010 --> 00:36:39.030
flippant, but with Ozzy dying, it's like, well,

00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:41.630
that dude had a pretty... He did a lot of stuff.

00:36:43.969 --> 00:36:47.110
Well, I'm surprised that was so soon after his

00:36:47.110 --> 00:36:49.130
last show. I didn't watch his last show, but

00:36:49.130 --> 00:36:52.969
I want to. I just haven't gotten around to it.

00:36:53.070 --> 00:36:55.809
And I was very surprised. I got into Black Sabbath

00:36:55.809 --> 00:36:58.929
when I was 12. And I guess their second record,

00:36:59.050 --> 00:37:02.409
Paranoid, has been a huge part of my music life

00:37:02.409 --> 00:37:06.869
since then. So it was a very sad passing. For

00:37:06.869 --> 00:37:08.530
a lot of people, I think he's a joke because

00:37:08.530 --> 00:37:11.550
they just know him from the Osbournes and stuff

00:37:11.550 --> 00:37:16.559
like that. Musically, he basically helped create

00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.000
the genre of metal and hard rock. 100%. Took

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.860
blues music and stepped it into the hard rock

00:37:24.860 --> 00:37:33.739
realm. Yes. Yeah, absolute legend. Yeah. So Sounders

00:37:33.739 --> 00:37:36.179
played Saturday at a match that Alex and I attended

00:37:36.179 --> 00:37:37.739
in person. Cedar, were you able to watch it?

00:37:38.759 --> 00:37:41.699
yes i was able to watch it um i was able to watch

00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:45.079
it live too this is rare for me so that was that

00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.639
was good uh how you how'd you feel about the

00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.139
match as it was going on from a tv perspective

00:37:50.139 --> 00:37:51.480
we might have a different one because we were

00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.179
in the stadium i think the you know the vibe

00:37:54.179 --> 00:37:57.679
can be different totally totally um i i thought

00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.659
um i mean overall as i was watching it i was

00:38:01.659 --> 00:38:06.050
thoroughly entertained i mean san jose We always

00:38:06.050 --> 00:38:09.110
have these shootouts with them, which we usually

00:38:09.110 --> 00:38:12.809
end up on the losing side of. It was nice to

00:38:12.809 --> 00:38:16.650
come out on top. I was watching it by myself.

00:38:18.170 --> 00:38:23.429
Nobody around. When Pedro scored that goal, I

00:38:23.429 --> 00:38:27.750
leapt up and I shouted so loud. I was so happy.

00:38:27.969 --> 00:38:31.250
I love that he showed up. Not only did he play

00:38:31.250 --> 00:38:34.130
well, because we've seen him play well before.

00:38:34.590 --> 00:38:38.550
But he was a hero. And I think, especially with,

00:38:38.750 --> 00:38:41.789
now we know that Morris is going to be out for

00:38:41.789 --> 00:38:44.610
pretty much the rest of the season. We need,

00:38:44.849 --> 00:38:50.530
this team needs a hero. We don't just need people

00:38:50.530 --> 00:38:52.489
to play well. We've got a ton of players who

00:38:52.489 --> 00:38:55.769
play well week in, week out. We need a guy who

00:38:55.769 --> 00:38:59.550
takes a game by the scruff of the neck and wins

00:38:59.550 --> 00:39:03.929
it for us. And that's what Pedro did. I think

00:39:03.929 --> 00:39:06.590
we've all been wanting to see that, and he delivered.

00:39:06.849 --> 00:39:12.170
So it was just really great to see. Yeah, agreed.

00:39:12.389 --> 00:39:14.909
Alex, you were in the stadium. How were you feeling

00:39:14.909 --> 00:39:18.369
throughout this match? I was entertained for

00:39:18.369 --> 00:39:24.110
the most part. We went down first, and then I

00:39:24.110 --> 00:39:25.909
was like, all right, here we go. It's going to

00:39:25.909 --> 00:39:30.150
be one of those games. And then we see Jordan

00:39:30.150 --> 00:39:33.159
go down. And then I'm like, okay, our chances

00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.559
just went down even worse. We're now winning

00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.179
the Heritage Cup. And then I see Rusnak putting

00:39:38.179 --> 00:39:39.719
a cross. Danny gets on the end of it. I'm like,

00:39:39.739 --> 00:39:46.719
okay, we're back in this. And then in the second

00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:52.460
half, the game completely changed. We were utilizing

00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:56.340
Pedro on the left side of the field because Christian

00:39:56.340 --> 00:40:00.119
Espinosa was pushing up so high. And I like that.

00:40:01.619 --> 00:40:03.880
On Danny's second goal, Pedro wasn't selfish.

00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.460
Like, he hit a beautiful ball with the outside

00:40:07.460 --> 00:40:10.980
of his foot, served it on a platter where Danny,

00:40:11.019 --> 00:40:15.619
all he had to do was just touch it in. Yeah.

00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.699
And then his game winner, it was just, like,

00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.500
I was tearing up tears of joy because I'm a big,

00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:25.920
like, Pedro fan. Like, you know, free Pedro.

00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.300
You got to let Pedro go for Pedro. Yeah. I mean,

00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:33.840
I don't know if you remember this because you

00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:35.619
were busy cheering, but I was standing in front

00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:38.639
of you. And as soon as he scored, I went nuts.

00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.059
And then I put two fingers directly at the Sounders

00:40:41.059 --> 00:40:44.940
bench and went, fuck you, Schmetzer, free Pedro,

00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:50.079
which is your phrase you've come up with. And

00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:54.260
I, on Sunday at the Rave Gala, the Sounders charity

00:40:54.260 --> 00:40:58.480
arm. I hung out with Pedro for a little bit and

00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.820
told him all about free Pedro. And he was so

00:41:00.820 --> 00:41:02.820
thankful and even came up and said bye to us

00:41:02.820 --> 00:41:05.739
when, when he was leaving. So that's awesome.

00:41:06.059 --> 00:41:08.460
Yeah. So he knows about the free Pedro movement

00:41:08.460 --> 00:41:13.579
that we've started. Hashtag free Pedro. Sign

00:41:13.579 --> 00:41:16.920
it, deliver it. That we should be playing every,

00:41:16.940 --> 00:41:19.860
I also, Oh gosh, guys, a little, little side

00:41:19.860 --> 00:41:23.280
note here, but got a picture with the rest snack

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.559
and. one of my friends who was there was saying,

00:41:28.659 --> 00:41:30.840
oh, you're my mom's favorite player. And he said,

00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:33.539
oh, I thought people in Seattle didn't like me.

00:41:34.699 --> 00:41:38.840
Like completely sincere. Yeah. And I think it's

00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.159
because people get on him because they don't

00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:45.239
realize he's not there to be Clint Dempsey, right?

00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:46.840
He's not there to score goals. He does score

00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.699
goals. He's there to get assists and do other

00:41:49.699 --> 00:41:52.460
things and run the offense. Like he's a quarterback

00:41:52.460 --> 00:41:55.599
and they don't understand what he does. I think

00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.860
Aaron, you know, our, our founder of Sounders

00:41:58.860 --> 00:42:02.119
Scuttlebutt made a video of, of what he did in

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.699
the, uh, champions league final and how important

00:42:05.699 --> 00:42:08.920
he was on those goals. And, uh, I said, no, man,

00:42:09.059 --> 00:42:11.820
you're our assistant goal King. Like we love

00:42:11.820 --> 00:42:15.380
you. So, uh, I felt so bad. It broke my heart

00:42:15.380 --> 00:42:16.739
a little bit. Cause he was just kind of like,

00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:18.840
yeah, you know, I didn't think people in Seattle

00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:22.579
liked me. It's like, Russ snack. That was the

00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:24.340
first Jersey. As soon as he signed, I got his

00:42:24.340 --> 00:42:28.940
Jersey. Like. I think because you know how there's

00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:30.980
some games where we just have trouble scoring.

00:42:31.579 --> 00:42:34.340
Yeah. I think Rusnek is our scapegoat because,

00:42:34.380 --> 00:42:36.900
you know, we don't want to get on Jordan because

00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:40.960
he's our homegrown. We don't want to get on Rothrock.

00:42:40.980 --> 00:42:45.000
He's our homegrown. But I think what people don't

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.139
realize until – they don't always realize what

00:42:48.139 --> 00:42:51.880
he does until he's off the field. If you take

00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.059
him off the field, it's noticeable how different

00:42:54.059 --> 00:42:56.780
it is. When he came off in the Western Conference

00:42:56.780 --> 00:43:00.599
Final, we absolutely lost the game once he came

00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:05.780
off. It's not because he got hurt, but the game

00:43:05.780 --> 00:43:08.179
completely changed. We lost control of the game

00:43:08.179 --> 00:43:12.639
once he came off. Nobody can really do what he

00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.900
does in that area at the top of the box and just

00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:19.800
being that offensive fulcrum. he's he's pretty

00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.980
uh he's he's that focal point pulling the strings

00:43:22.980 --> 00:43:26.739
and i think too maybe the reason why he was like

00:43:26.739 --> 00:43:30.880
oh i don't like nobody likes me in seattle it's

00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:32.940
you know and for those people who don't realize

00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:34.980
what he does if they're trying to compare him

00:43:34.980 --> 00:43:39.599
to like you know oladero or a dempsey or you

00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:41.599
know it's just he's not that kind of player what

00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.480
what he brings is something uh different than

00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.820
either of those guys and anybody else on the

00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:50.550
roster really And it's very subtle. And so I

00:43:50.550 --> 00:43:53.909
think it can get lost, especially if the team

00:43:53.909 --> 00:43:57.429
is having down performances. That's really sad

00:43:57.429 --> 00:44:00.869
to hear. We need to throw him an appreciation

00:44:00.869 --> 00:44:04.710
party or something. I know. I felt so bad because

00:44:04.710 --> 00:44:06.710
I love him. He's one of my favorite players on

00:44:06.710 --> 00:44:11.570
the team. Absolutely. Snack time, baby. Hashtag

00:44:11.570 --> 00:44:15.750
snack time. There you go. A free Pedro movement

00:44:15.750 --> 00:44:19.309
for him. Hashtag snack time. No, I think a lot

00:44:19.309 --> 00:44:21.329
of... I mean, he's not a flashy guy, I think,

00:44:21.349 --> 00:44:24.750
so it also plays against him where when you're

00:44:24.750 --> 00:44:27.110
not a flashy guy, you don't get a flashy reaction

00:44:27.110 --> 00:44:29.630
from the crowd. No, and I think... True, but

00:44:29.630 --> 00:44:32.550
he's so technically skilled. I mean, some of

00:44:32.550 --> 00:44:35.630
the goals he scores are... I mean, only he is

00:44:35.630 --> 00:44:41.710
scoring those goals. He is so precise. No, I

00:44:41.710 --> 00:44:45.260
think... A lot of the hate that he gets is from

00:44:45.260 --> 00:44:46.820
people that aren't watching the game. They're

00:44:46.820 --> 00:44:49.039
just looking at the box score. They're watching

00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.199
highlights. So they don't get to see the full

00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.760
90. I mean, the guy that sits behind me who was

00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.639
a soccer player criticizes him a lot. But I think

00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:04.300
they criticize him for something that's not his

00:45:04.300 --> 00:45:09.559
fault. Because if you want to play with him with

00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:12.579
the style of play that we play, he's maybe not

00:45:12.579 --> 00:45:15.420
the best player in that position to, I mean,

00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:16.659
you're not going through him, right? You're going

00:45:16.659 --> 00:45:18.599
through the wings. If we're playing to the center,

00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:20.480
like we all have talked about us wanting to do

00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.900
more, especially with our inability to hit the

00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:25.599
second runner, like we used to do when we could

00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.159
hit that second runner coming through, we scored

00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.739
so many goals. But if we're playing through the

00:45:30.739 --> 00:45:33.340
middle, that's, that's where he shines. And that's

00:45:33.340 --> 00:45:35.380
not something that we, we seem to do anymore.

00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:37.460
Like we'll, we'll pass it to him and he'll pass

00:45:37.460 --> 00:45:39.880
it to the wing. But if you got him running at

00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:42.039
goal and hitting people, on the run, I think

00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.059
that's when we really would see greatness out

00:45:45.059 --> 00:45:49.500
of him. That's not Schmetzer's style, though.

00:45:51.659 --> 00:45:53.579
I would like to see him take more shots outside

00:45:53.579 --> 00:45:56.639
the box. Yeah, we've seen that he can score those,

00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:01.119
right? Like, Pedro's goal was outside the box.

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.980
Rusnak, I think, he had to go outside the box.

00:46:07.849 --> 00:46:09.690
The one that he hit on the bottom corner was

00:46:09.690 --> 00:46:12.150
outside the box too, right? I think so, yeah.

00:46:12.489 --> 00:46:16.869
So when we shoot from outside the box at a consistent

00:46:16.869 --> 00:46:19.289
level, we score more goals than we do in the

00:46:19.289 --> 00:46:23.469
prime assist zone. Yeah. They really broke down

00:46:23.469 --> 00:46:25.489
his shot too. I think it was in the Club World

00:46:25.489 --> 00:46:28.110
Cup, but maybe it was an MLS match right before

00:46:28.110 --> 00:46:30.590
it, and talked about that he doesn't kick it

00:46:30.590 --> 00:46:33.369
the way a traditional player does, but his style

00:46:33.369 --> 00:46:36.940
is exactly the same as... Cristiano Ronaldo's,

00:46:36.940 --> 00:46:38.900
which is why he scores so many balls, because

00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:42.579
the ball goes so hard at the goalie that it has

00:46:42.579 --> 00:46:47.340
a pace that they don't expect out of the kick.

00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.000
He's just spamming the low -driven shot from

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:57.760
FIFA. Double -tap circle now. New changes being

00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:04.079
made to the game. yeah i mean i love him it's

00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:05.780
such a bummer that he felt that way and i want

00:47:05.780 --> 00:47:09.059
to make sure that he feels loved he needs no

00:47:09.059 --> 00:47:11.579
he needs to feel he needs to feel our love because

00:47:11.579 --> 00:47:15.079
he he is didn't he set the record for uh what

00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.239
was it first sounders player to 50 goals 50 assists

00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:22.300
or whatever i think first mls player yeah on

00:47:22.300 --> 00:47:25.340
two different teams right right right that's

00:47:25.340 --> 00:47:28.639
that's incredible that's incredible he's he's

00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.150
an amazing player he needs to know that Yeah.

00:47:32.230 --> 00:47:34.530
I mean, maybe there's no song about him. You

00:47:34.530 --> 00:47:36.469
know, ECS doesn't cheer at him. I don't know.

00:47:37.489 --> 00:47:39.969
But he's in a position that I think isn't very

00:47:39.969 --> 00:47:42.710
heralded because he may be at center tacking

00:47:42.710 --> 00:47:44.369
mid, but he often plays more like a center mid.

00:47:45.369 --> 00:47:49.909
A deeper playmaker. Yeah. Because he's running

00:47:49.909 --> 00:47:53.329
the offense. You watch him. Even when he's not

00:47:53.329 --> 00:47:55.329
touching the ball, he's telling people where

00:47:55.329 --> 00:47:58.530
to go and what to do. So he has a huge impact

00:47:58.530 --> 00:48:04.940
there. Yeah, we need that. Yeah. I think I went

00:48:04.940 --> 00:48:06.300
to the bathroom. I know I went to the bathroom.

00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.320
I didn't think, but I think an interesting thing

00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.300
is I went to the bathroom. I left. I said, Nick,

00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:12.239
I'm going to run to the restroom because whenever

00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:14.980
I do that, we tend to score a goal and then they

00:48:14.980 --> 00:48:19.559
scored. And then I went and got some lunch and

00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.199
we scored. So I missed the first two goals. So

00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.820
I think, I think if we're going to see, I didn't

00:48:25.820 --> 00:48:28.019
expect them to score, but, but if I step away,

00:48:28.099 --> 00:48:31.260
the Sounders do score. So maybe I need to, be

00:48:31.260 --> 00:48:33.900
absent during the game more often well it's like

00:48:33.900 --> 00:48:36.659
um those times where you had a that you weren't

00:48:36.659 --> 00:48:38.559
able to make it to the matches and we go and

00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.820
win three zero five two yep yep yeah and the

00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:48.219
matches that we tailgate too yeah we did we had

00:48:48.219 --> 00:48:49.860
a nice tailgate before the last match i got a

00:48:49.860 --> 00:48:53.360
little sunburn i was surprised but that was fun

00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.519
i did i did sit in ecs my dad didn't tell me

00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:58.320
he wasn't coming to the game. So I just had one,

00:48:58.340 --> 00:49:00.579
an extra ticket and no one could take it. So

00:49:00.579 --> 00:49:04.760
I sat, it was, it was me and Nicholas and Alex

00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.840
and Nicholas's daughter and Dan and his family.

00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.800
So we had a nice little ultras party. And Eric

00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:16.639
13 too. Yep. Eric 13 shout out. Of course, none

00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:18.079
of us would have been there without Eric. So

00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:21.960
that's just a given. No, I just remember when

00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:23.800
Pedro scored, I was just looking at you the whole

00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:28.340
time you turned around, looked at me. And now

00:49:28.340 --> 00:49:35.000
he knows free Pedro, man. That was, I mean, do

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.460
you think there's anything we can take away from

00:49:36.460 --> 00:49:40.199
this game moving forward? I think, uh, both Jordan

00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:43.320
Morris's injury, but also heading into Atlanta

00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:46.900
with the knowledge also that, uh, yesterday Rothrock

00:49:46.900 --> 00:49:48.820
broke a bone in his hand. It is not traveling.

00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.780
He has surgery today. Did he? Yeah. I've seen

00:49:52.780 --> 00:49:55.900
something that's for like, he has surgery. Yeah,

00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:57.699
I know he wasn't in practice, and they said he

00:49:57.699 --> 00:50:00.199
broke his hand, or bone in his hand, not his

00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.699
old hand, thankfully. What do you think is happening

00:50:03.699 --> 00:50:05.679
heading into Atlanta, where unfortunately we

00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.559
talked about it last episode of the show, where

00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.619
Garth had stepped away due to cancer, and they've

00:50:11.619 --> 00:50:13.940
been struggling a bit. And their fans are angry

00:50:13.940 --> 00:50:15.519
because they just traded away one of their young

00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.599
stars for basically nothing, a defender. Who'd

00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.280
they get rid of? I think I missed that one. A

00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.360
young defender who's only played 12 games, but

00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:28.219
they basically have nothing in the tournament.

00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:33.739
So they're pretty mad about it. I don't know.

00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.300
They got on Chris Henderson, and I was like,

00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:38.739
yo, we'll take Chris Henderson back. Like, that

00:50:38.739 --> 00:50:41.639
dude brought us all our championships. No, yeah,

00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:43.360
I think I've seen that, but then I didn't really

00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.199
pay too much attention because it was Atlanta.

00:50:46.099 --> 00:50:48.820
I'm like, they're mediocre either way. They paid,

00:50:48.820 --> 00:50:51.340
what, $20 million for Latela, and he hasn't been

00:50:51.340 --> 00:50:56.449
producing, really? Yeah. But any concern about

00:50:56.449 --> 00:50:58.650
the Sounders heading down there? Missing Rothrock,

00:50:58.789 --> 00:51:01.750
who, you know, if Pedro can show up and be the

00:51:01.750 --> 00:51:03.590
man, we don't need to worry about that. But Rothrock

00:51:03.590 --> 00:51:07.570
has been our offense, it feels like. No, I think

00:51:07.570 --> 00:51:11.789
if Pedro could, this is, so now, like Pedro showed

00:51:11.789 --> 00:51:14.909
up last game. Like that was his, like I've arrived

00:51:14.909 --> 00:51:17.329
game. So now what he has to do is build off these

00:51:17.329 --> 00:51:20.590
performances and continue with that momentum.

00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.840
Because there's no... We could be free Pedro

00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.239
this and that, but if he's not being consistent

00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.880
with his game, then we have to try something

00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:36.579
different. Yeah. But I think him and Danny have

00:51:36.579 --> 00:51:41.579
a good connection. If we see Reid play as a left

00:51:41.579 --> 00:51:43.280
back again, I think they have a good connection

00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:49.179
as well. And then we'll have Yamar probably playing

00:51:49.179 --> 00:51:54.869
more minutes. Is this game two of the new who

00:51:54.869 --> 00:51:57.269
suspension or is that over? That's how, how much

00:51:57.269 --> 00:51:59.190
my brain has forgotten everything in the past.

00:51:59.309 --> 00:52:02.329
It's over. It's over. It's over. But if Brian

00:52:02.329 --> 00:52:06.570
doesn't play them, then that's between the coaching

00:52:06.570 --> 00:52:14.929
staff and new who. Yeah. Oh, breaking news. This

00:52:14.929 --> 00:52:18.599
is a huge one for. Me, as I just taught a class

00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:20.760
on this, Donald Trump signs an executive order

00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.019
seeking to clarify NCAA athletes' employment

00:52:23.019 --> 00:52:26.820
status, which is an NIL thing. I just taught

00:52:26.820 --> 00:52:29.400
an entire quarter on NIL at Seattle University.

00:52:29.500 --> 00:52:32.199
And then six hours after our final class, there

00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:35.639
was a summit that changed everything. And now

00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:40.019
they have 30 days to preserve college sports

00:52:40.019 --> 00:52:42.820
opportunities to prevent them from becoming professionals.

00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.570
Interesting. Led by Linda McMahon, who's had

00:52:47.570 --> 00:52:55.409
a busy day today. And breaking news. Seattle

00:52:55.409 --> 00:52:57.789
Mariners are acquiring first baseman Josh Naylor

00:52:57.789 --> 00:53:03.230
from the Arizona Diamondbacks. What? That's what

00:53:03.230 --> 00:53:05.429
I'm talking about. I wish they'd get Eugenio,

00:53:05.449 --> 00:53:08.909
but holy, that's. I mean, we're actually making

00:53:08.909 --> 00:53:10.969
some moves. That's what I'm talking about. Come

00:53:10.969 --> 00:53:13.070
on, Sounders. Be like the Mariners. Let's go.

00:53:13.670 --> 00:53:19.530
Yeah, we're not making a move now. The summer

00:53:19.530 --> 00:53:24.250
window just opened today. The Sounders got to

00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:26.369
make a move. We don't have a forward now. We

00:53:26.369 --> 00:53:30.510
don't got the money. I mean, Miami had the money.

00:53:30.510 --> 00:53:32.349
They figure it out. We just need to be creative

00:53:32.349 --> 00:53:36.130
with how we do it. Adrian bought new curtains.

00:53:36.389 --> 00:53:44.800
Shout out, Dan. Oh, my God. Wow, the Mariners.

00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.139
Okay, hopefully that's just the first of several

00:53:47.139 --> 00:53:52.039
moves by the Mariners. I would love to see Eugenio

00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:56.739
back as well, even though we traded him away

00:53:56.739 --> 00:53:59.960
in the first place. Yeah, we just let him go

00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:02.880
because they said he was a salary dump. Yeah,

00:54:02.980 --> 00:54:05.510
he didn't have enough. They said he wasn't. he

00:54:05.510 --> 00:54:07.349
didn't try hard enough for some stupid thing

00:54:07.349 --> 00:54:11.349
okay that's close and he's second in the major

00:54:11.349 --> 00:54:14.030
league baseball with in home runs behind cal

00:54:14.030 --> 00:54:16.090
imagine if he was on the team but josh naylor

00:54:16.090 --> 00:54:19.849
on our on our new mariner podcast which which

00:54:19.849 --> 00:54:22.710
i actually want to start a mariner scuttlebutt

00:54:22.710 --> 00:54:26.150
podcast probably for next season but josh naylor

00:54:26.150 --> 00:54:30.150
is batting 292 with 11 home runs 59 rbis so great

00:54:30.150 --> 00:54:34.840
adjust addition to the that's good The Mariners.

00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.219
Do you think, speaking of additions, that adding

00:54:39.219 --> 00:54:42.420
a forward to the Sounders, even one that is just

00:54:42.420 --> 00:54:46.500
a backup at this point, is a good idea? Yeah,

00:54:46.500 --> 00:54:49.639
we have to. I don't think D -Road is ready for

00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:54.659
consistent minutes backing up Danny. And now

00:54:54.659 --> 00:54:58.059
the front office doesn't have any excuse of like,

00:54:58.219 --> 00:55:00.940
oh, we're waiting for Jordan Morris to come back.

00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.760
It's like, well, that... that ship has sailed

00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:09.099
so they yeah who we need something different

00:55:09.099 --> 00:55:14.139
from danny and jesus up top and and i mean after

00:55:14.139 --> 00:55:19.000
that and let's assuming we you know we can't

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.360
really feel d -row if he's not performing up

00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.940
to our standards who else would we have up top

00:55:25.940 --> 00:55:29.739
jesus i mean that's that's what i'm saying after

00:55:29.739 --> 00:55:34.139
danny and jesus like We've basically got two

00:55:34.139 --> 00:55:37.119
and a half forwards. They'll put Georgie up there

00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:43.239
or Rothrock. They did do that one time with Georgie.

00:55:43.739 --> 00:55:48.940
I think we lost that game. Yeah. It's all experimental

00:55:48.940 --> 00:55:51.659
at that point, right? Yeah. Looking at the goals

00:55:51.659 --> 00:55:54.760
out there, so these are MLS free agents, meaning

00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.800
people we could just sign right away. Midfielder,

00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.570
but I've always liked him, Lateef Blessing. Has

00:56:01.570 --> 00:56:05.429
five goals in 27 matches, but worth about 800K

00:56:05.429 --> 00:56:11.190
euros. Bobby Wood, four goals in 18 matches.

00:56:11.630 --> 00:56:15.230
He's available. I don't think Insigne is coming

00:56:15.230 --> 00:56:20.070
back. Jonathan Lewis, who most recently played

00:56:20.070 --> 00:56:22.889
for Barnsley. He's an American, dual American

00:56:22.889 --> 00:56:28.469
Jamaican. Three goals in 24 appearances. That

00:56:28.469 --> 00:56:31.789
might be it when it comes to Michael Chang, who

00:56:31.789 --> 00:56:34.429
has no goals in 22 appearances for Salt Lake,

00:56:34.630 --> 00:56:39.389
and Tommy McNamara, an Irish -English dual citizen

00:56:39.389 --> 00:56:43.269
who has no goals in five appearances. So not

00:56:43.269 --> 00:56:48.250
a lot of depth out there in terms of attacking

00:56:48.250 --> 00:56:53.210
just available MLS -free agents. Surprised that

00:56:53.210 --> 00:56:55.190
no one signed Shane O 'Neal, actually. He's still

00:56:55.190 --> 00:56:58.280
available, former Sounder. Was a pretty great

00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:02.739
center back for us. But, oh, maybe he most recently

00:57:02.739 --> 00:57:07.199
played in... Oh, it looks like he might have

00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:12.659
just signed for FK Radinke in... I don't even

00:57:12.659 --> 00:57:14.900
know what country that is. That's an Eastern

00:57:14.900 --> 00:57:17.739
European country of some sort. He's now out of

00:57:17.739 --> 00:57:19.420
contract since then, though. It must have been

00:57:19.420 --> 00:57:24.539
a short contract. Yeah, not a lot of free agents

00:57:24.539 --> 00:57:27.139
ready to go that have scored a lot of goals.

00:57:27.300 --> 00:57:34.219
So you're having to bring in someone to do something,

00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:39.199
I guess, that we don't expect. We've already

00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.300
raided Tacoma Defiance. They have now fired their

00:57:42.300 --> 00:57:45.840
coach because they've fallen apart. Oh, damn,

00:57:45.980 --> 00:57:49.059
really? I think there's more to your story. Probably.

00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.360
I mean, the whole point of defiance is to get

00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.840
your 10 ,000 minutes for that player so that

00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.000
they can develop and move up, right? They're

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.000
not about winning, so it can't just be losing.

00:58:02.699 --> 00:58:08.519
That's not the point is necessarily to win. Right,

00:58:08.659 --> 00:58:11.320
right, right, right. Maybe he's not playing certain

00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:14.900
players that the front office wants, and he's

00:58:14.900 --> 00:58:19.380
like, you're out. You're fired. Yeah. Could be.

00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:24.579
Could be. So, I don't know. It'll be an interesting

00:58:24.579 --> 00:58:30.320
stretch here where I think the Sounders could

00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.639
use someone to score goals. I mean, this player

00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.119
doesn't exist, right? I want a Will Bruin -style

00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.440
backup. Not Will Bruin as a starter, like late

00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:42.960
-career Will Bruin, but maybe those players just

00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.880
aren't available anymore, especially this late

00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:48.119
in the season, in the offseason. I mean, we could

00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:52.059
have gone and got Jeremy a... in the offseason,

00:58:52.219 --> 00:58:55.820
which I would have loved. Oh, man. Can you imagine

00:58:55.820 --> 00:58:58.920
if we had brought him in because he was available

00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:06.880
in the offseason? Yeah, he's great. Yeah, I love

00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:10.000
him. Is he LAFC? Is that where he went? I think

00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:16.019
so. Yeah. I think Giroud was his backup. Yeah.

00:59:17.940 --> 00:59:20.039
Who's now gone, but they're bringing in more

00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:23.039
people. They're bringing in Son. Human Son. Looks

00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.820
like it. We'll see if it gets finalized. Boy,

00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:33.840
the last reason to be a Spurs supporter is gone.

00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:39.940
He won a trophy and dipped. He said, I finally

00:59:39.940 --> 00:59:44.519
did it for you guys. I'm out. I'm just looking

00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.230
at the free agents that were available. starting

00:59:48.230 --> 00:59:49.869
the season and most of them have been signed,

00:59:49.969 --> 00:59:52.489
but they do have Rusnak on there because of it.

00:59:52.570 --> 00:59:56.969
And I just want to point out 84 key passes in

00:59:56.969 --> 00:59:59.869
2024, 2 ,500 plus minutes played for four years

00:59:59.869 --> 01:00:05.150
running. He'd get plenty of interest from other

01:00:05.150 --> 01:00:09.489
teams that had said last year was the best season

01:00:09.489 --> 01:00:11.409
of his eight year career, 10 goals, 16 assists,

01:00:11.469 --> 01:00:15.309
88 % pass completion rate on his 1 ,165 passes

01:00:15.309 --> 01:00:19.480
and the top chance created for Seattle. It makes

01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:22.019
sense that we signed him. And I wonder if, now

01:00:22.019 --> 01:00:24.739
going back to Rusnak there, do you think that

01:00:24.739 --> 01:00:31.420
maybe some of the love he doesn't feel is because

01:00:31.420 --> 01:00:35.179
the Sounders fans wanted a higher profile level

01:00:35.179 --> 01:00:38.139
DP signing and he feels like it falls on him

01:00:38.139 --> 01:00:40.500
because they signed him instead? I wonder if

01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:42.260
that's part of it because I want a high level

01:00:42.260 --> 01:00:45.030
DP signing, but I want him too. You know what

01:00:45.030 --> 01:00:47.789
I mean? He's not the one I'm replacing of the

01:00:47.789 --> 01:00:51.130
three DPs we have on our team. Who are you replacing?

01:00:52.010 --> 01:00:54.030
Jordan. Okay. At least we're on the same page.

01:00:54.889 --> 01:00:58.289
This was his chance to shine. I love Jordan Morris.

01:00:58.349 --> 01:01:00.909
Don't get me wrong. From a personal perspective,

01:01:01.090 --> 01:01:10.230
in high school, my cousin is, we'll say, on the

01:01:10.230 --> 01:01:14.659
spectrum. And Jordan was so kind with him. and

01:01:14.659 --> 01:01:16.559
always went out of his way to make him feel welcome.

01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.059
And so my admiration for Jordan goes well beyond

01:01:21.059 --> 01:01:23.239
what he does on the field. It's who he is as

01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.860
a human being, and he's had a direct impact on

01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:33.280
my family. But yeah, I'm not sure how you give

01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.639
DP money to a player, even though he's hurt.

01:01:36.219 --> 01:01:38.079
So it's not always his fault, but can't stay

01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:41.400
on the field. Yeah, and it's been a couple of

01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:45.260
seasons now of him being a DP. Yeah. Right. And

01:01:45.260 --> 01:01:49.280
do we, do we feel like he's reached that kind

01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:52.659
of status at any point? Right. So I, I think

01:01:52.659 --> 01:01:56.000
from a, from just a pure like business perspective,

01:01:56.179 --> 01:01:58.260
I think that's totally fair to want. I guess

01:01:58.260 --> 01:02:00.719
this is technically his first year as a DP because

01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:03.440
he triggered it by how, how many goals. Okay.

01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:08.639
But there's the, the ESPN breaking news of Josh

01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.909
Naylor coming in to the Mariners. As reported

01:02:12.909 --> 01:02:16.190
by Jeff Passan, Passan, Passan, however you say

01:02:16.190 --> 01:02:20.210
it. I'd love to see who we're giving up for him.

01:02:20.369 --> 01:02:22.190
And I also wonder if that means the Mariners

01:02:22.190 --> 01:02:25.090
are out of the Eugenio Suarez race, which the

01:02:25.090 --> 01:02:26.730
Yankees and the Mariners are the two teams going

01:02:26.730 --> 01:02:30.070
the hardest on. Oh, man, I hope we get Eugenio.

01:02:30.170 --> 01:02:35.469
I mean, I know Ben Williamson has been awesome

01:02:35.469 --> 01:02:38.510
over, you know, playing third, but. Obviously

01:02:38.510 --> 01:02:41.510
his bat is not as good as Eugenio. And I feel

01:02:41.510 --> 01:02:45.550
like Eugenio could totally mentor him too. So

01:02:45.550 --> 01:02:47.809
I don't see any issues with like, Oh, well then

01:02:47.809 --> 01:02:49.789
Williamson won't get to play as much or anything.

01:02:49.869 --> 01:02:52.030
It's like, he's still a rookie, you know, he'll

01:02:52.030 --> 01:02:56.090
get to learn. Man, that would be, that would

01:02:56.090 --> 01:02:58.449
be really nice. That'd be really, really nice.

01:02:58.510 --> 01:03:00.429
I think, I think the way we feel, and this is

01:03:00.429 --> 01:03:02.889
why I keep bringing it up. The way we feel about

01:03:02.889 --> 01:03:06.829
this Mariners move. is the way we would feel

01:03:06.829 --> 01:03:10.809
if the sounders brought in somebody anybody come

01:03:10.809 --> 01:03:14.829
on do something well now that now that we have

01:03:14.829 --> 01:03:19.389
uh you can do a cash for in the mls yeah oh wait

01:03:19.389 --> 01:03:21.889
but that involves money so we i mean we have

01:03:21.889 --> 01:03:24.230
but it doesn't what's money the problem is the

01:03:24.230 --> 01:03:26.869
cap hit right how did how much cap space we have

01:03:26.869 --> 01:03:29.349
versus the player we bring in right so we can

01:03:29.349 --> 01:03:33.170
bring in a player on alone And then it will not

01:03:33.170 --> 01:03:34.849
hit us the same, especially if it's a loan to

01:03:34.849 --> 01:03:36.949
buy. I mean, you see lots of teams do this. This

01:03:36.949 --> 01:03:39.489
is something that we tried to do last year in

01:03:39.489 --> 01:03:41.849
the summer window, and it didn't work out. So

01:03:41.849 --> 01:03:45.210
there is room for that. It's just getting a player

01:03:45.210 --> 01:03:47.829
that wants to do it. Last time we sought players,

01:03:48.010 --> 01:03:50.389
there was two that were on our radar that got

01:03:50.389 --> 01:03:52.409
that far, and both of them decided they wanted

01:03:52.409 --> 01:03:55.909
to stay in Europe. And those were wingers, though.

01:03:55.929 --> 01:03:59.190
Those were forwards. So it's not like we can

01:03:59.190 --> 01:04:01.789
go back to the well on that, but it'll be interesting.

01:04:03.289 --> 01:04:05.309
What are you expecting out of the team in Atlanta?

01:04:07.309 --> 01:04:09.929
I kind of wanted to touch back on Jordan being

01:04:09.929 --> 01:04:14.349
a DP nine. Yeah. I think so. What I think of

01:04:14.349 --> 01:04:17.030
a DP nine is someone that's in the golden boot

01:04:17.030 --> 01:04:21.110
race. For the sounders, especially. Yeah. Like

01:04:21.110 --> 01:04:25.070
that as a DP nine, you have to be, you know,

01:04:25.070 --> 01:04:29.489
producing. And we can say that he's been hurt

01:04:29.489 --> 01:04:31.570
this year, but part of the game is being able

01:04:31.570 --> 01:04:34.309
to stay healthy. He's been very injury prone

01:04:34.309 --> 01:04:36.110
this year. Like he's had a bad luck with injuries.

01:04:36.610 --> 01:04:39.929
And yeah, that's not entirely his fault, but

01:04:39.929 --> 01:04:43.949
it's still part of the game. Like reliability

01:04:43.949 --> 01:04:50.449
is, or availability is the best thing as a player.

01:04:50.849 --> 01:04:54.210
Like there's no point in having a Messi or Ronaldo

01:04:54.210 --> 01:04:56.980
if they're only going to play. Five, ten games

01:04:56.980 --> 01:05:00.360
a year. That's why we let Ozzie go. I mean, Ozzie,

01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:02.820
still one of the best players on the team, but

01:05:02.820 --> 01:05:06.840
was not getting on the field. It's why we talk

01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:09.659
about Nuhu, and sure, he's the best defensive

01:05:09.659 --> 01:05:11.659
left back this team has ever had, but if he's

01:05:11.659 --> 01:05:15.420
hurting the team and harming the trust of the

01:05:15.420 --> 01:05:18.659
team, and let me tell you, obviously I've never

01:05:18.659 --> 01:05:20.900
said which players have said this. Multiple players

01:05:20.900 --> 01:05:24.980
that I talk to throughout the years have questioned.

01:05:25.659 --> 01:05:29.760
uh, his ability to, uh, not make mistakes, um,

01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.619
mentally. And that doesn't, I mean, on and off

01:05:32.619 --> 01:05:36.500
the field more than anything, but, um, and that's

01:05:36.500 --> 01:05:38.719
why I think Schmetzer said, and, and repeated

01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:42.679
it when I talked to Brian on Sunday, uh, he's

01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:44.619
got new, who has to earn the trust of the team

01:05:44.619 --> 01:05:51.400
back, not just the coaches. Yeah. Yeah. So I

01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:55.739
think Jordan though, come on. I mean, you saw

01:05:55.739 --> 01:05:58.320
it live on TV, Cedar. That was a foul, right?

01:05:58.980 --> 01:06:01.800
That keeper undercut him. Should have been called

01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:04.639
for a foul on that play when Jordan got hurt.

01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:09.619
Let me jog my memory on that. It was that crazy,

01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:11.840
like he was thrown up in the air and landed on

01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:13.780
his AC joint, basically. Landed on his shoulder.

01:06:13.780 --> 01:06:17.639
Yeah, it looked bad, but the goalie got the ball

01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:19.219
first. He got there first. He beat him to the

01:06:19.219 --> 01:06:23.199
spot. It was a bad collision. It's part of the

01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:27.840
game. Any other position on the field, you're

01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:29.500
calling the foul on the person that takes the

01:06:29.500 --> 01:06:33.179
guy out. I mean, we didn't get the foul on Pedro

01:06:33.179 --> 01:06:36.260
in the box. I mean, that one was fun. Yeah, that

01:06:36.260 --> 01:06:39.539
goalie was getting away with a lot that game.

01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:42.280
That was ridiculous. Even though it was an accident,

01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.900
clearly he didn't mean to hit Pedro there. And

01:06:45.900 --> 01:06:50.690
it wasn't, you know. He wasn't going to get hurt

01:06:50.690 --> 01:06:52.510
off of it. You can't do what he did on that.

01:06:52.630 --> 01:06:59.110
No, no. As being a goalie for a few years, the

01:06:59.110 --> 01:07:01.690
way that I'll do the same thing if I want to

01:07:01.690 --> 01:07:06.530
hit the striker. I do that play so I can leave

01:07:06.530 --> 01:07:11.530
a mark so he knows not to make the same run again.

01:07:12.289 --> 01:07:16.389
He didn't do that on accident. He did it with

01:07:16.389 --> 01:07:20.039
a purpose. Sure, but even if he did, it's still

01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:23.000
a foul. Anywhere else on the box, like outside

01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.239
the box, it's a foul. Right. But Mr. Drew Fisher

01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:33.699
didn't want to give a PK. Yeah, it was a rough

01:07:33.699 --> 01:07:38.400
game. Do you think it's because he's Canadian?

01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:46.099
It must be. That's the reason. No, and this is

01:07:46.099 --> 01:07:48.809
like... Why there's going to be a lot of games

01:07:48.809 --> 01:07:52.489
like this because ultimately it's like the refs

01:07:52.489 --> 01:07:55.289
describe... If the ref uses it like this and

01:07:55.289 --> 01:07:57.190
VAR uses it some other way, it's going to fall

01:07:57.190 --> 01:08:01.210
on the ref. Ultimately, he had the final call

01:08:01.210 --> 01:08:04.989
on the final say. I did think it was crazy that

01:08:04.989 --> 01:08:09.269
it didn't go to VAR. Yeah, I'm surprised the

01:08:09.269 --> 01:08:11.369
VAR referees wouldn't have blown that and just

01:08:11.369 --> 01:08:16.409
had him come over and look at it because... It

01:08:16.409 --> 01:08:18.609
was. Yeah. Why wouldn't you just look at it?

01:08:18.630 --> 01:08:20.409
I've never understood that. Why wouldn't you

01:08:20.409 --> 01:08:24.630
just look at it? But, you know, I don't know.

01:08:24.729 --> 01:08:28.489
Let's see. Yeah. Yeah. Soren Stoica VAR for that

01:08:28.489 --> 01:08:33.090
game. Interesting. So that was only his. Was

01:08:33.090 --> 01:08:35.510
that only a second time refereeing? This can't

01:08:35.510 --> 01:08:38.710
be right. Is this in one season? Maybe this is.

01:08:38.729 --> 01:08:42.149
It might be this year. Second time reffing the

01:08:42.149 --> 01:08:48.500
Sounders. Gives out 9 .5 fouls per game, 0 .5

01:08:48.500 --> 01:08:52.340
fouls per tackle, 0 .5. He gave out one yellow,

01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:57.560
it says. That seems, yeah, for this season, that

01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.779
seems interesting. One yellow given. They got

01:08:59.779 --> 01:09:03.619
three. So clearly it didn't, they haven't put

01:09:03.619 --> 01:09:05.579
in his new stats. At least we didn't. Oh, it

01:09:05.579 --> 01:09:07.920
was one against us. That's not game total. That's

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:12.399
how many he's given to us. Oh, okay. Whereas

01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.300
he's given five to the Galaxy, five to the Whitecaps.

01:09:15.420 --> 01:09:18.079
And he's given out no red cards this year. So

01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:23.640
I guess we weren't going to see a lot of that

01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:26.819
happen. No, we didn't concede a PK and we didn't

01:09:26.819 --> 01:09:32.039
get a red. That's a win in my book. And he reffed

01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:37.939
Botafogo and PSG and Al Ain. And so, yeah, it

01:09:37.939 --> 01:09:41.460
looks like he was reffing. He refed the PSG -Bodafogo

01:09:41.460 --> 01:09:47.979
match. So he did get some Club World Cup time

01:09:47.979 --> 01:09:50.479
in there. And he gave two penalties to Charlotte,

01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:52.880
or called two on them in the Red Bulls game.

01:09:52.979 --> 01:09:55.560
So he's willing to call penalties, just not for

01:09:55.560 --> 01:10:01.819
us. So like every other, every ref ever, basically.

01:10:02.619 --> 01:10:07.970
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Where do you go from

01:10:07.970 --> 01:10:09.310
Jordan then? What are you doing? Are you moving

01:10:09.310 --> 01:10:17.010
on? Me? Yeah. Put him back on Tam. I mean, I

01:10:17.010 --> 01:10:18.449
think that's the right move. I don't know how

01:10:18.449 --> 01:10:20.689
you do that. He'd have to sign a new contract.

01:10:21.149 --> 01:10:25.090
What does it benefit him to do that? You got

01:10:25.090 --> 01:10:27.630
to tell him you either take a pay cut and you

01:10:27.630 --> 01:10:29.750
help the team or we got to ship you off somewhere

01:10:29.750 --> 01:10:36.939
else. Yeah. Yeah, you got to make a... A decision

01:10:36.939 --> 01:10:38.520
that's best for the team. There's no point in

01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:42.159
paying him a DP salary if he's not even playing.

01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:48.880
At this point, his DP means doesn't play. And,

01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.000
like, I love the guy. I have his jersey. Me too.

01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:55.560
But you just got to be on the field, man. Like,

01:10:55.579 --> 01:10:57.899
you got to help. Well, you got to be scoring

01:10:57.899 --> 01:11:02.460
goals too. I mean, the most goals he's ever scored

01:11:02.460 --> 01:11:09.090
was 13 last season. And my problem is most of

01:11:09.090 --> 01:11:11.670
those, I think 11 of those, it was either nine

01:11:11.670 --> 01:11:15.350
or 11, were from the wing. They were not from

01:11:15.350 --> 01:11:18.090
the forward position. It was once he had been

01:11:18.090 --> 01:11:20.930
moved over to the wing from the number nine at

01:11:20.930 --> 01:11:23.590
the end of the game. And so that's why I think

01:11:23.590 --> 01:11:25.350
he's a valuable player on this team, just not

01:11:25.350 --> 01:11:28.869
as a number nine. Yes. Yeah, it feels like, oh,

01:11:28.909 --> 01:11:31.890
okay. It feels like ideally he's playing on the

01:11:31.890 --> 01:11:35.850
wing or he's backing up at the number nine. When

01:11:35.850 --> 01:11:40.250
needed, but he's not, I don't, I don't, yeah,

01:11:40.430 --> 01:11:43.229
I don't know. And yeah, he's been injured. So

01:11:43.229 --> 01:11:48.010
it sucks, but clearly it's just, it hasn't worked

01:11:48.010 --> 01:11:52.550
so far. So I don't, I don't know. It's just hard

01:11:52.550 --> 01:11:57.050
to keep backing him when he's not making it on

01:11:57.050 --> 01:12:03.270
the field. Yeah. What was it? He was out for

01:12:03.270 --> 01:12:06.810
what? Two months. He comes back with two, three

01:12:06.810 --> 01:12:12.569
games and then he's out again. Yeah. I mean,

01:12:12.569 --> 01:12:16.569
this injury, I can't, I don't like, I am not

01:12:16.569 --> 01:12:18.810
when people say, Oh, they're always hurt. Well,

01:12:18.829 --> 01:12:20.930
sometimes the injuries aren't their fault. You

01:12:20.930 --> 01:12:24.069
know what I mean? Like Pedro was rushed back

01:12:24.069 --> 01:12:25.630
when he shouldn't have been from his original

01:12:25.630 --> 01:12:29.069
knee injury. This was a complete fluke player,

01:12:29.149 --> 01:12:31.670
right? It's not like he's, he's injury prone

01:12:31.670 --> 01:12:36.970
necessarily. I mean, you could argue because

01:12:36.970 --> 01:12:38.670
it was the same hamstring he re -injured, but

01:12:38.670 --> 01:12:44.909
it's, it's an unfortunate incident. So I could

01:12:44.909 --> 01:12:46.569
say, I could see him being out there and not

01:12:46.569 --> 01:12:50.270
getting hurt at all. I just, right now, what

01:12:50.270 --> 01:12:51.850
do we do for this season? And it's, you got to

01:12:51.850 --> 01:12:54.369
come up with some sort of player that can, just

01:12:54.369 --> 01:12:56.470
a body out there that can score some goals. Doesn't

01:12:56.470 --> 01:12:59.109
need to score 10, five goals down the stretch

01:12:59.109 --> 01:13:03.310
here would be great. I mean, Danny Wazowski's

01:13:03.310 --> 01:13:06.300
are, Back of nine, he's our second leading goal

01:13:06.300 --> 01:13:11.020
scorer behind Rusnak? Yeah. I feel like he shouldn't

01:13:11.020 --> 01:13:13.399
have had to be put in that position. Yeah, but

01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:15.600
I think we're lucky that he's been playing phenomenal.

01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:20.279
He did have that stretch of 11 games without

01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:24.100
a goal, though. I think he was probably arguing

01:13:24.100 --> 01:13:27.479
with his fiancée or something. Because once he

01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:31.079
got engaged, he started tearing it up. I will

01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:33.020
say he's one of the nicest people I've ever met.

01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:35.859
I had dinner with him last year at the Rave Gala,

01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:45.939
and truly, truly a nice dude. So what are we

01:13:45.939 --> 01:13:48.000
thinking? We've got to talk about Atlanta, and

01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.800
then we've got to get out of here. We should

01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:58.800
beat Atlanta, because they are... Very, very

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:02.699
far down in the Eastern Conference. Although,

01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:08.720
ironically, they average the most attendance

01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.920
for their home games out of anybody in Major

01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:15.260
League Soccer. They've got that down pat. Nearly

01:14:15.260 --> 01:14:25.210
45 ,000 people a game. And we actually lead the

01:14:25.210 --> 01:14:27.489
Western Conference in our average attendance

01:14:27.489 --> 01:14:32.430
with just a little bit over 30 ,000 people each

01:14:32.430 --> 01:14:36.149
home game. But yeah, we should beat Atlanta.

01:14:36.369 --> 01:14:42.630
They're winless in their last five. And yeah,

01:14:42.689 --> 01:14:48.869
they're not doing too hot. So we really, really

01:14:48.869 --> 01:14:53.609
should beat them. We'll be on the road. It'll

01:14:53.609 --> 01:14:59.630
be tough. Regardless. Alex? We're going to win

01:14:59.630 --> 01:15:01.989
3 -1. Pedro's going to get a goal and assist.

01:15:02.869 --> 01:15:04.430
And Rustak's going to get a goal and assist.

01:15:07.670 --> 01:15:10.210
Who gets the third goal? The third goal? On goal.

01:15:11.989 --> 01:15:18.109
Oh, nice. Or Danny. One or the other. And then

01:15:18.109 --> 01:15:20.970
we concede a PK. That's how they get there first.

01:15:22.740 --> 01:15:25.239
So it's 2 -1 and then a stoppage time to get

01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:31.659
the third. Nice. Love it. I'm going to say 2

01:15:31.659 --> 01:15:35.779
-1 Sounders. That's going to be my call on this

01:15:35.779 --> 01:15:37.359
one. I don't know who's going to score yet. I

01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:41.220
have to think about that more. But, man, go Sounders.

01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:44.619
That's awesome. And then Dan said 3 -0. Atlanta

01:15:44.619 --> 01:15:48.199
wins. Oh, really? No, I'm pretty sure that's

01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:52.000
what he said. He put 3 -1 San Jose to win last

01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:55.859
weekend. I mean, he's been on a more positive

01:15:55.859 --> 01:15:59.479
attitude lately. By the way, the Mariners traded

01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:03.479
their number 13 and number 16 prospects, a left

01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:04.880
-handed pitcher and a right -handed pitcher.

01:16:05.060 --> 01:16:10.640
So not a bad trade there for the Mariners. How

01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:15.020
many years left does Naylor have under his current

01:16:15.020 --> 01:16:19.039
contract? Oh, okay. He's a rental. I mean, maybe

01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:21.739
they re -sign him like they did Randy. That's

01:16:21.739 --> 01:16:23.300
good, though, right? Don't we always criticize

01:16:23.300 --> 01:16:27.060
them for not making an effort before the playoff?

01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.319
All right. That's good. Let's go. Last year,

01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.500
they made a bit of an effort. The year before,

01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:37.420
they brought in our all -time leading ERA man.

01:16:39.539 --> 01:16:42.380
What's his name? Castillo, right? Castillo, yes.

01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:47.140
We need... Our Josh Naylor. You listening, Craig?

01:16:47.460 --> 01:16:49.699
I mean, Craig, of course, wants it. Are you listening,

01:16:49.779 --> 01:16:54.220
Adrian? Bring in a forward. He's going to say,

01:16:54.260 --> 01:16:59.220
we have Jordan. He'll be back. Any last thoughts

01:16:59.220 --> 01:17:00.520
before we get out of here? He's going to say,

01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:02.279
the doctors got it wrong with JP's knee. Maybe

01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:04.399
they got it wrong with Jordan's shoulder. That's

01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:06.659
another thing we didn't mention. JP will be back

01:17:06.659 --> 01:17:08.159
this season because they went in there and his

01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:09.979
ligament was still attached. Shout out Providence.

01:17:10.819 --> 01:17:13.060
Great doctors they have. Can't even diagnose

01:17:13.060 --> 01:17:18.340
our players right. I will say, so I love the

01:17:18.340 --> 01:17:21.859
jersey matchup, the last game against San Jose.

01:17:22.140 --> 01:17:24.119
Because you've got to do a throwback versus a

01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:28.739
throwback, right? Us versus Colorado. They didn't

01:17:28.739 --> 01:17:30.359
do their throwback, which they had. They had

01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:31.960
a throwback jersey, but maybe they didn't want

01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:34.979
to debut it on the road, I guess. Oh, whatever.

01:17:35.659 --> 01:17:40.699
Was it the green? Dark green? Yeah, which is...

01:17:40.989 --> 01:17:42.609
which is their jersey. They used to have green

01:17:42.609 --> 01:17:44.109
and green and white stripes back in the day.

01:17:44.270 --> 01:17:46.489
Their logos might look more like a hockey logo

01:17:46.489 --> 01:17:50.289
than a soccer logo. Yeah. I mean, the avalanche,

01:17:50.350 --> 01:17:55.109
I think basically stole their logo. Well, what

01:17:55.109 --> 01:17:58.130
I, the other point I want to make is I love,

01:17:58.189 --> 01:18:00.350
I love the throwbacks that we have. They look

01:18:00.350 --> 01:18:03.909
great. And one of the reasons why is you've got

01:18:03.909 --> 01:18:08.869
Providence on the ass in the back, like in a,

01:18:08.869 --> 01:18:11.420
you know, subdued. tone. You can barely see it.

01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:15.199
You barely notice it. I like that part. I think

01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:16.960
this would be the perfect opportunity for our

01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.619
players to tuck their jersey. Absolutely. Let's

01:18:20.619 --> 01:18:26.000
tuck it in, boys. Pedro, listen. Tuck your jersey.

01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:29.699
They would all look... They should all shave

01:18:29.699 --> 01:18:35.439
their heads and tuck their jerseys in. I don't

01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:37.079
know if anybody would want to face them then.

01:18:38.270 --> 01:18:40.250
They were going to say, why is Craig on the field?

01:18:42.890 --> 01:18:48.710
Is that Schmetzer? No, if it was Schmetzer, they'd

01:18:48.710 --> 01:18:54.430
be wearing a bunch of suits. Yeah. And real snappy.

01:18:56.050 --> 01:19:00.729
Although, he did wear his suit in 90 degree weather,

01:19:00.829 --> 01:19:03.350
but then didn't wear it last match where it was

01:19:03.350 --> 01:19:08.189
really pleasant. Oh, was he in the training kit?

01:19:08.369 --> 01:19:12.829
He was in his training kit. I want to know. We

01:19:12.829 --> 01:19:15.270
need to have him on the podcast, and we need

01:19:15.270 --> 01:19:18.329
to pick his brain about how he makes that decision.

01:19:18.710 --> 01:19:22.869
His game day wardrobe routine. We should just...

01:19:22.869 --> 01:19:26.170
We're not even going to ask about subs. We don't

01:19:26.170 --> 01:19:27.430
want to know about subs. We don't want to know

01:19:27.430 --> 01:19:30.350
about soccer. We just want to know about the

01:19:30.350 --> 01:19:32.689
clothes he's choosing to wear. Why this suit

01:19:32.689 --> 01:19:37.380
and this tie? Why this pen for your press conferences?

01:19:37.539 --> 01:19:39.359
You're going to break the pens. I wonder how

01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.260
many pens he goes through. It must be a lot.

01:19:42.340 --> 01:19:44.359
Sometimes though, like Ziggy would come out with

01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.279
a different scarf every game. It was just handed

01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:47.920
to him. He had no idea what the scarves were.

01:19:48.220 --> 01:19:52.079
So I imagine Brian's a little more hands -on

01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:54.460
than that, but you never know. You never know.

01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:58.819
Can I just give a shout out before we leave to

01:19:58.819 --> 01:20:02.420
Paul Rothrock who came over and... uh, on Sunday

01:20:02.420 --> 01:20:05.319
and talk to us for a bit and just such a cool

01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:08.039
dude. Like I, he didn't need to come spend time

01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:10.439
with us, but he, but he genuinely came over and

01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:15.020
just hung out and talk for a bit. Um, and, uh,

01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:17.600
just asked, asked us questions, was interested

01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:19.739
in who we were and what we were doing with our

01:20:19.739 --> 01:20:22.359
lives and brought over his girlfriend. And, uh,

01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:26.159
yeah, it was just super fun. Oh, also we should

01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:29.520
give a shout out to Christian for. for letting

01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:32.119
ECS get their hands on the Heritage Cup after

01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:35.140
the match. Yeah, they brought it over and gave

01:20:35.140 --> 01:20:37.159
it in the crowd. One of the biggest days for

01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:39.279
the Heritage Cup in a long time. I heard it even

01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:43.699
made it on TV. San Jose fans were even like,

01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:45.979
all right, I guess it's okay for one because

01:20:45.979 --> 01:20:50.300
the Heritage Cup gets some due. I meant to bring

01:20:50.300 --> 01:20:53.340
it in here. It's sitting in my front steps right

01:20:53.340 --> 01:20:57.659
now. Just on the other side of the garage here.

01:20:58.060 --> 01:21:01.680
Put it in the closet like they did. No, I won't

01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:05.859
lose it this time. But yeah, I'm excited. Heritage

01:21:05.859 --> 01:21:09.539
Cup, big things coming. We formed a nonprofit

01:21:09.539 --> 01:21:12.560
and I think there's going to be a bunch of educational

01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:15.260
stuff coming around in ASL as well. So it'll

01:21:15.260 --> 01:21:18.640
be super cool. Next up, Cascadia Cup. That's

01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:22.460
great. Cascadia Cup is Timber's Army and ECS.

01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:26.470
And I'm not sure which. Vancouver group, to be

01:21:26.470 --> 01:21:31.630
honest. The main one. The big one. But yeah,

01:21:31.710 --> 01:21:36.390
we have... Do we have one game against each of

01:21:36.390 --> 01:21:44.130
them left? Yeah. Portland's on October. And I

01:21:44.130 --> 01:21:46.270
think Vancouver's in September. I'm not sure.

01:21:47.590 --> 01:21:50.310
Yeah, Portland's October 4th. My dad's 85th birthday.

01:21:51.489 --> 01:21:57.989
Although he won't be there. Wow. All right, let's

01:21:57.989 --> 01:22:00.890
get out of here. We'll be back, what, Sunday?

01:22:01.890 --> 01:22:04.529
So we may have another Ultras episode before

01:22:04.529 --> 01:22:07.170
we have a regular episode. So we'll be talking

01:22:07.170 --> 01:22:12.029
Seattle versus Atlanta. It'll be a good game.

01:22:12.510 --> 01:22:14.909
I will be with you guys in spirit for that game

01:22:14.909 --> 01:22:19.789
or for that recording. I will be at a concert.

01:22:21.789 --> 01:22:24.109
In Seattle, no less. In Seattle at the Wama.

01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:30.840
Who are you seeing? The Marias. Oh, nice. Yeah,

01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:34.359
my girlfriend got tickets, so we're going. I'll

01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:36.720
be coming back from a punk show in Bellingham,

01:22:36.819 --> 01:22:39.020
but I'll be back in time. Yeah, if she goes to

01:22:39.020 --> 01:22:40.859
Soundgames for me, I can go to a concert for

01:22:40.859 --> 01:22:47.960
her. There you go. Yeah, for sure. Alright, everybody.

01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:59.909
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Alexa, who's the best MLS team of all time? The

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Seattle Sounders are both unequivocally and irreparably

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the best MLS team of all time.