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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say it's cheating. Oh, that music gets

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me hyped. Hello and welcome to Sounders Scuttlebutt,

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your favorite Sounders podcast. Number one in

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your hearts and number one in your brains. This

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is Cameron Collins, one of your hosts, and I

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am here with my co -host. Hey, what's up Nick?

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How's it going? Are things going good on your

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side of things? They are. I'm thirsty, though,

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so let's open this up. That was like three different

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things at once. That was pretty impressive. I'm

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going to try a different approach. Sometimes

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I try nice and smooth. This time I'm just going

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to go like a 15 -year -old who's never had sex

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before. Oh, so not far from the truth. Well,

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no, I'm just laughing because when I did that,

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it... it basically frothed up like a 15 year

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old boy who's never had sex before so yeah yeah

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yeah yeah oh good you were thinking that let's

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let's move on um yes uh welcome to sounders scuttlebutt

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we had an eventful week here uh but before we

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get started with anything you know what let's

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start on a sad note we have not done for a while

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the celebrity deaths and There's been a whole

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bunch. Let's just go through real quick. I was

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about to do something that I can't do because

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it would have gotten our podcast taken down.

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So unfortunately, instead, you're going to have

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to hear me singing it. Come on, keep going. Was

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it today? Well, anyways, David Kaff, the British

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musician and actor that played Viv Savage in

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The Spinal Tap, died last week at 79 years old.

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That's a bummer. We also had James Carter Cathcart

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pass away, who was the voice of Meowth and James.

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Some big Pokemon stuff there, yeah. Pokemon in

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the English version. Big one for me, Mark Snow,

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Pastor Dan, 4th of July. He did the X -Files

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music. Super iconic. He also did 200 episodes

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of including that, but Smallville, Ghost Whisperer,

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Blue Bloods, Heart to Heart, TJ Hooker, and Helter

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Skelter. He got 30 ASCAP awards, which is pretty

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incredible. Julian McMahon. Pretty fun actor.

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Passed away on the 4th of July after a long battle

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with cancer. Suddenly left a show that I watched

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regularly and we never knew why. And now we did

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because he had been diagnosed with cancer. So

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super bummer. I'm going to skip this one real

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quick because I think that's who we're going

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to talk about the most. But I want to mention

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that back in June, I think it was June 26th,

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the day before my birthday, Lalo Schifrin died,

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who was an amazing composer who did the scores

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for Dirty Harry, Cool Hand Luke, Amityville Horror.

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I think, was it Exorcist 2? One of the Exorcist

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films for sure. Might have been the new Exorcist

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actually as well. Incredible, incredible composer.

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So that's sad. But sadly, dying of a heart attack

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most recently of an actor who, I can't say he's

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one of my favorite actors, but he's in a lot

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of my favorite movies and I love him, Michael

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Madsen. Great character actor. That was a tough

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one. I did watch Reservoir Dogs in honor when

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it happened, the day it happened. I just felt

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like, oh, man, just iconic, some iconic stuff.

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It's pretty incredible. Yeah. Do you have anyone

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else that you wanted to add to that? I think

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that that's it for my list. I will say that there's

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been some incredible videos they've been showing

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on that I've seen on Instagram of just interviews

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with Michael Madsen talking about like Quentin

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Tarantino. He wanted to be him. He wanted to

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be Mr. On. and he was like no i want to be mr

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pink but he went and tried out and he goes nope

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you're mr blonde and he really let him do his

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own thing and where he he was supposed to wear

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a suit and he didn't have suits so he's he was

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wearing like suit shoes so he was wearing his

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cowboy boots because that was his own wardrobe

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uh and i think it was buscemi didn't have suit

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pants they wore jeans so uh it's it's pretty

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interesting that movie how how much of it was

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Harvey Keitel working with Quentin Tarantino

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to get it done. And then they made this incredible.

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Yeah. I mean, and, and I mean, one, if you haven't

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seen two heads of our dogs, I highly, highly,

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highly recommend going to watch that a really

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good soundtrack, a really good, just tutorial

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on how to make a low budget film look great.

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You know, storytelling, it's all about storytelling

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and really just kind of was the beginning of

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Tarantino's great run. With that in mind, though,

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we did not talk about the obvious celebrity death

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that actually ties together soccer and celebrityism,

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and that was Diogo Jota, which was just a horrible,

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horrible thing. And kind of interesting to think

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that if Liverpool was in the Club World Cup,

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none of that would have happened. Yeah. Totally.

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So it's, yeah, a total bummer. You know, I think

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it's a time where not a fan of his club in any

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way, but a bummer for a young man who had a lot

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of amazing years ahead of him. And his younger

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brother. I mean, his brother was not as good

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at soccer, but that doesn't make him any less

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of a person. So, it's kind of funny how, I mean,

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I don't know if this is going to be a regular

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segment on the show, but oftentimes, because

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we do talk about pop culture and we do interact

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things like that, and we keep talking about it

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offline, this idea of, oh, we forgot to talk

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about this or that. Yeah, so good to kind of

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get caught up. Yeah, I think the last time we

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talked about him might have been Brian Wilson.

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Did I ever tell you about the time I met him?

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Oh, yeah. No. As you know, I've seen the band

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Barenaked Ladies 40 times. And in the summer

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of 2001, I had the opportunity to meet Brian

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Wilson. So I brought my Barenaked Ladies Brian

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Wilson CD single. Yeah. Oh, yeah. As a matter

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of fact, it's right there. I can go show it and

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pull it up. So I had Brian Wilson sign it. And

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then about a week and a half later, I was in

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Cincinnati and I was hanging out backstage with

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Barenaked Ladies. And I'm like, hey, guys, can

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you know, I don't often do this, but can you

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sign this for me? Because we were at the point

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where I didn't. I had hung out with them enough

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where it was like, oh, I don't need to have something

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signed. You know what I mean? It wasn't that

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wasn't our relationship. But, you know, like,

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hey, I got some little special. Can you sign

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this for me? And I pull it out, and they look

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at it, and then they look a little closer. Like,

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wait, is this Brian Wilson's signature? And we

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all had a laugh at that. But, yes, I got this

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cool thing. And funny enough, Brian Wilson opened

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his show on that tour. He was touring with...

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paul simon which is just a great one -two punch

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but um uh brian wilson opened his set doing a

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cover of bare naked ladies brian wilson in the

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style of the beach boys it was it was just amazing

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um yeah so so rip brian wilson he uh He was just

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such an impact on pop culture, well, on pop music.

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Inspired everyone from the Beatles to basically

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every indie band since. Yeah, it's just, I feel

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like, I don't know if he would have been as good

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of a musician if he weren't afflicted by the

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demons he was, but it's just, it's unfortunate

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that his health physical and mental health really

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prevented him from ever reaching the heights

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that he could have. I mean, it took him out kind

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of in the heights of where he was going. Yeah,

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I think that's a more accurate description because,

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I mean, if that's not the heights, there's a

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handful of people who have had bigger heights

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in music history. So I'd love to hear a definition.

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But with that said, what's your favorite Beach

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Boys song? Ooh, maybe good vibrations. I mean,

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I, I, I like, I was listening to them the other

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day, like right after he passed. There's just

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some that I get when I was younger, it was all

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the service because they reminded me of and going

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to California and seeing my grandma. And, you

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know, my mom grew up in Southern California and

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we're listening to the beach boys and stuff like

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that. So it really reminded me of that. But no,

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I think it's, it's some of the later stuff actually,

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when it started, be showing his songwriting coming

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through instead of just pure pop songs when he

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was actually writing these incredible, incredible

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songs. But you know what, what I always found

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interesting is that what's the name of the documentary?

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Oh, I haven't, but that's the, the, the musicians,

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the studio musicians that are the songwriters,

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right? Yeah. So they, they were oftentimes it

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was him. oh god only knows for me it's like yeah

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wouldn't it be nice god only knows and and don't

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worry baby like those those those are my things

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but uh but you're saying i'm sorry the wrecking

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crew oh incredible i mean they they it was just

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brian wilson and them writing songs together

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and you know other you know mike love and and

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the others would pop in and out but in the end

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it was really brian wilson show right like and

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so just to have that amazing crew of musicians

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who wrote so many of the hit songs that we know

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that we don't even know who they are. You haven't

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seen it. Definitely recommend checking it out.

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It's incredible. That's right up my alley. And

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I mean, is that on max by any chance? Cause they've

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had some really great music documentaries over

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the years. I feel like it was on Netflix at one

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point in 2008. And it looks like it's free and

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to be right now. But it's 94 % from Rotten Tomatoes.

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I mean, that sounds up my alley for sure. I do

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love a good music documentary. I always had.

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I still have a huge DVD collection of some great

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D .A. Pennebaker stuff and Les Waltz. They wrote

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most of the Monkees songs. Daydream Believer.

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Beast Boys, Frank Sinatra, Nancy Sinatra, Sonny

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and Cher, Jan and Dean, Cary Lewis and the Playboys,

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Mamas and Papas, Tijuana Brass, Ricky Nelson,

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John Rivers, Phil... They were Phil Spector's

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band, Wall of Sound. So they played on so many

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hits. That's very cool. Yeah, I do love those

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kind of documentaries. Another one in that same

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era and part of the country about the Laurel

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Canyon sound was really good. The Laurel Canyon

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tapes. Somewhat recently because they were doing

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a benefit concert. I think Beck was involved

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and Joni Mitchell. Anyways, yeah. So definitely

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we'll have to check that out because music documentaries

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are often great things to put on while you're

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paying attention but also kind of screwing around

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on your phone or typing or doing something on

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the computer. It's a good one -two punch a lot

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of times. It's also great when you're traveling.

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It's great airplane banter. That's cool. That

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is cool. Any other pop culture you want to hit

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before we jump in? I don't think either of us

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have been to any. I mean, I went to Wu -Tang

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on my birthday, which was incredible seeing them,

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their final ever Seattle show as a total group.

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And they brought out Young D .B. to play with

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them, which I'd seen him perform before. But

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having Young Dirty Bastards sing the old Dirty

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Bastards songs. And they let them do their solo

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stuff, too. Like Jezza got some Young D .B. did

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some O .D .B. songs. They did Shimmy Shimmy Ya

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and Baby I Got Your Money. in Brooklyn Zoo, and

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then they did Method Man. Well, that is a Wu

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-Tang song, but Method Man did the song he does.

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Gosh, what's the name of that song? There's two

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different versions of it. You're All I Need to

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Get By? Yeah. Okay, yeah. You're All I Need to

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Get By, the Mary J. Blythe. I prefer that version

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to the other, but it's kind of like how the roots

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have two different... They have Erykah Badu version

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and Jill Scott version of You Got Me. And Jill

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Scott's incredible, but... Yeah, I saw Erykah

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Badu do that version of it with them at Woodstock

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99. It was amazing. Incredible. Amazing. That's

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incredible. That immediately followed up The

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Roots with Insane Clone Posse. Oh, of course.

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And that was before their great hit that went...

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Water, fire. What is it? That was, that was a

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amazing, amazing. No. Oh yeah. It was way, way

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after, way before miracles. Magical mysteries.

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Oh, miracles. Magical mysteries was the SNL one.

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But no, this was amazing. Jekyll brothers era.

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Great. Yeah. Anyways. They seem like good dudes,

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despite the fact that the fans. I'm going to

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push back on the fans are horrendous part. I

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mean, it's interesting. It is a culture of, I'm

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going to be careful on how I say this, but it's

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a culture of misfits finding each other and finding

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community within each other. And I think it's

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easy to mock and make fun of them, but that's

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just the easy, lazy way instead of seeing what's

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really going on there. Almost like how at a,

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you know, at, at a metal show, metal heads would

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get a bad reputation, but there's like, there's

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like honor in the pit and there's rules that

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you handle. And there's, so I think, I think

00:16:10.690 --> 00:16:14.289
there's, there's more to it than you think. I'm

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sure. And they're not all like that, but I have

00:16:16.090 --> 00:16:18.389
had some bad run -ins with juggalos, especially

00:16:18.389 --> 00:16:21.570
late nineties, early two thousands. And also

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the way, what you just described was my, also

00:16:23.429 --> 00:16:25.990
my experience when I went undercover at a far

00:16:25.990 --> 00:16:30.080
right anti -vax pro gun rally. And they all were

00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.240
so nice and kind to me. And I found that all

00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:35.080
of them were just people who had nowhere to go.

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And so they got sucked into this cult of crazy

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right wingers. And that was a crazy rally to

00:16:41.220 --> 00:16:42.960
be at. I had so many women hit on me because

00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:44.419
they thought I was a right winger. And I was

00:16:44.419 --> 00:16:49.259
like, I don't like you. Womp womp. We do have

00:16:49.259 --> 00:16:51.139
some scuttlebutt to talk about, though, as well.

00:16:51.539 --> 00:16:56.179
Moving some soccer related scuttlebutt. One,

00:16:56.179 --> 00:16:59.740
let's give a shout -out to addition to the MLS

00:16:59.740 --> 00:17:02.539
All -Star team. One sounder will be on the All

00:17:02.539 --> 00:17:06.660
-Star team. Do you know who it is? Okay. It is.

00:17:06.660 --> 00:17:08.880
I do. Obed Vargas. It is, and I think that's

00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:15.240
well -deserved. Yeah, interesting choice. I mean,

00:17:15.259 --> 00:17:17.940
I think on the balance of the season, yes, but

00:17:17.940 --> 00:17:20.660
it is surprising to me because I think there

00:17:20.660 --> 00:17:23.920
are other players on the team. I mean, Roldan's

00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:30.240
having a season, but yeah. But I'm definitely

00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.339
going to tune in and see how Obed does against

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League MX teams. So that'll be fun. Some bad

00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:43.880
news in the Sounders adjacent world. Aaron Long

00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:47.900
is out for the season. He ruptured his Achilles

00:17:47.900 --> 00:17:53.319
in the game against FC Dallas this weekend. So,

00:17:53.319 --> 00:18:00.019
and he's been LAFC's captain, but he's out for

00:18:00.019 --> 00:18:04.920
the season. So that's a shame because, you know

00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.519
what, I don't have any problem with Aaron Long.

00:18:08.740 --> 00:18:12.099
I really don't. And so you never want to see

00:18:12.099 --> 00:18:15.160
that. You never want to see that. No, I mean,

00:18:15.180 --> 00:18:17.720
I wish he had come back to Seattle when he came

00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:21.029
back, but he's always been. a pretty solid player

00:18:21.029 --> 00:18:24.690
and, and, um, you don't want to see anyone get

00:18:24.690 --> 00:18:26.990
hurt that, I mean, I don't, I don't even think

00:18:26.990 --> 00:18:29.990
I'd want to wish injury on, um, Steven Linhart

00:18:29.990 --> 00:18:35.049
or, uh, uh, who, who's the guy who will Johnson

00:18:35.049 --> 00:18:41.150
such a Dick. His name is Dick, Dick, um, Willie

00:18:41.150 --> 00:18:48.250
Johnson. Um, You're not wrong. Other news that

00:18:48.250 --> 00:18:54.109
came out today was that they added details to

00:18:54.109 --> 00:18:56.970
the bonus structure regarding the Club World

00:18:56.970 --> 00:18:59.769
Cup. Adrian Hanauer talked about that in our

00:18:59.769 --> 00:19:02.690
Alliance Council annual business meeting. But

00:19:02.690 --> 00:19:05.309
the details on that were released today. And

00:19:05.309 --> 00:19:10.069
it sounds like a 40 % increase from the $1 million

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cap. They obviously would have gotten more than

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that had they advanced. So Miami got more than

00:19:17.390 --> 00:19:27.609
that $1 .4 million. So good. I'm glad that cooler

00:19:27.609 --> 00:19:31.970
heads prevailed and they properly recognized

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that it was definitely not equal and it was not

00:19:38.009 --> 00:19:41.279
right. And they rectified that. So good on them.

00:19:41.980 --> 00:19:43.920
Speaking of the Club World Cup, the Club World

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Cup ended this weekend with an interesting match

00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.420
between two of your favorite European teams that

00:19:52.420 --> 00:19:54.880
you've been following for quite some time. So

00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:59.319
why don't you give a little quick recap of how

00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:03.579
that game went? Yep. The team I've been supporting

00:20:03.579 --> 00:20:09.440
for 30 years, Chelsea. absolutely demolished

00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:11.619
the team I've been supporting for 25, Paris Saint

00:20:11.619 --> 00:20:13.380
-Germain. Both of them before they were owned

00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:15.900
by, you know, Russian billionaires. Well, world

00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:18.619
soccer's changed over the last 30 years, so you

00:20:18.619 --> 00:20:21.019
just, yeah, you can't hold that against you.

00:20:22.940 --> 00:20:29.160
Yeah, so it's a fascinating game. I mean, Chelsea

00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:33.559
did to PSG what PSG did to Real Madrid. I mean,

00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:36.259
just was up 3 -0 in halftime, and then were able

00:20:36.259 --> 00:20:41.200
to hold on. You just see how the thing with PSG

00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:44.119
is they have really, really great players, but

00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:46.240
they're all young and none of them are superstars.

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And Chelsea has a few superstars, Oli Palmer

00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:54.140
especially. So they were able to exploit their

00:20:54.140 --> 00:20:57.259
defense with their speed and I think punch PSG

00:20:57.259 --> 00:20:59.160
in the mouth and just couldn't come back from

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it. I think the game. was marred a little bit

00:21:02.710 --> 00:21:05.769
by donald trump raising the trophy with chelsea

00:21:05.769 --> 00:21:09.369
uh you saw palmer standing behind him going why

00:21:09.369 --> 00:21:12.410
is trump here that's what he said and also they

00:21:12.410 --> 00:21:15.609
got a replica trophy because uh infantino gave

00:21:15.609 --> 00:21:18.609
the actual now that one okay so so two things

00:21:18.609 --> 00:21:21.910
about that story one i don't know if we're ever

00:21:21.910 --> 00:21:24.289
going to know the full truth on how that went

00:21:24.289 --> 00:21:30.859
it could be Well, that's the first thing that

00:21:30.859 --> 00:21:34.019
I thought of. That is exactly the first thing

00:21:34.019 --> 00:21:37.700
I thought of. Second thing is that at that time,

00:21:37.779 --> 00:21:43.920
the original trophy did not have LAFC on it.

00:21:44.420 --> 00:21:48.359
So perhaps they realized that they needed to

00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:51.059
take off Leon and put on LAFC. So they're like,

00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:53.240
okay, well, here you take that. So who the hell

00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:57.039
knows? Definitely could be. But I'm not going

00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:59.740
to give the benefit of the doubt to Trump because

00:21:59.740 --> 00:22:05.420
he's, well. Well, here's the thing is, from working

00:22:05.420 --> 00:22:09.440
with FIFA through the human rights process, I

00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:11.900
know that FIFA was really hoping. Trump would

00:22:11.900 --> 00:22:14.640
win the presidency because they could do a lot

00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.799
of stuff. I would not be surprised if they aren't

00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:19.660
close friends. I wonder if Adrian is feeling

00:22:19.660 --> 00:22:22.140
a little snubbed by Infantino that he gave it

00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:24.160
to Trump and not to Adrian, though. Because we

00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.279
saw them cozying up together inside the boxes.

00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:34.740
But all kidding aside, the... Infantino's got

00:22:34.740 --> 00:22:40.130
to basically play this... game where he's got

00:22:40.130 --> 00:22:44.690
to be a sycophant but also yeah he needs to you

00:22:44.690 --> 00:22:46.869
know take take take as much as he can and well

00:22:46.869 --> 00:22:50.170
the playbook on trump is pretty much kiss his

00:22:50.170 --> 00:22:53.410
ass and you can kind of play him like a fiddle

00:22:53.410 --> 00:22:56.970
so right which which they're going to need to

00:22:56.970 --> 00:23:00.549
do if they want the proper visas exactly so so

00:23:00.549 --> 00:23:04.230
i do play and visit and watch the whole thing

00:23:04.230 --> 00:23:07.279
just makes me sick But it's not a good look on

00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:12.059
Trump, so that makes me happy. And frankly, it's

00:23:12.059 --> 00:23:18.500
just funny to see Chelsea Photoshopping Trump

00:23:18.500 --> 00:23:21.940
out of their photos. Oh, yeah, their official

00:23:21.940 --> 00:23:25.259
photos, they Photoshopped him out. Like, fuck

00:23:25.259 --> 00:23:28.200
this guy. I mean, he shouldn't, he shouldn't

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.420
have been, I don't even care if it was, was Dennis

00:23:30.420 --> 00:23:32.339
Kucinich out there who I would have killed to

00:23:32.339 --> 00:23:34.460
be president. Like the president of the United

00:23:34.460 --> 00:23:36.720
States should not be lifting it unless he's a

00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.819
lifelong fan. Right. If, if it's like, if there's

00:23:39.819 --> 00:23:42.680
something, yeah. I mean, like if the Seahawks

00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:44.599
won, I would want to be there lifting it with

00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.740
them or something like that. But the Sounders,

00:23:47.740 --> 00:23:50.319
the mayor, you know, but he's not, he doesn't

00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:55.279
know who those teens are. Anyways. I'd rather

00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:59.579
not talk about Trump just because, well, I'd

00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:02.400
like to avoid being on watch lists and things

00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:06.880
like that. I think we're okay. Although I did

00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.779
see a friend tweet today that one of her friends

00:24:10.779 --> 00:24:13.700
got visited by Homeland Security because of a

00:24:13.700 --> 00:24:16.519
pretty innocuous tweet. So they're watching,

00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:21.359
they're listening, and you know that they have

00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:26.849
files on us. Yeah. But what else has gone on?

00:24:28.390 --> 00:24:33.950
I mean, I think we have some scuttlebutt questions,

00:24:34.029 --> 00:24:37.349
but let's do the breaking news before we get

00:24:37.349 --> 00:24:38.410
into the match. Wait, wait, wait. One last thing.

00:24:38.470 --> 00:24:43.950
One last non -sounders thing. Vita, details are

00:24:43.950 --> 00:24:47.750
starting to come out about how you can get World

00:24:47.750 --> 00:24:51.809
Cup tickets. So let's definitely make sure we're

00:24:51.809 --> 00:24:56.180
talking about that. Uh, and so, so that's kind

00:24:56.180 --> 00:24:58.380
of, uh, where did, where did you send me the

00:24:58.380 --> 00:25:03.200
link this morning? Yeah, it's, if you go to fifa

00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.339
.com slash tickets, make sure you're signed up

00:25:05.339 --> 00:25:06.819
for an account. And then there should be a link

00:25:06.819 --> 00:25:09.140
that says, tell them you're interested at the

00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:11.440
top. You just click it, you put your information

00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.019
in there. And then in September, they'll send

00:25:13.019 --> 00:25:15.079
out the info. So there'll be the first draw application

00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:18.480
windows will, um, will be conducted, uh, September

00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:23.460
10th, uh, or sorry, open September 10th. We'll

00:25:23.460 --> 00:25:27.059
be the beginning of that. And going off of previous

00:25:27.059 --> 00:25:29.680
World Cups, usually what happens is they do them

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.099
in different phases. And when the first phase

00:25:32.099 --> 00:25:33.980
gets announced, tickets will go on sale probably

00:25:33.980 --> 00:25:37.160
before the draw happens. Then when the draw happens,

00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.279
it's actually quite clever on their part. When

00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.799
the draw happens, people who bought tickets and

00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:44.599
are like, oh, well, now I can't use these tickets

00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:46.420
because the teams I'm trying to follow aren't

00:25:46.420 --> 00:25:48.380
going there. They return those tickets and get

00:25:48.380 --> 00:25:51.569
a. A markup, they get a, you know, oh, here you

00:25:51.569 --> 00:25:54.369
can return your ticket at a 10 % ticket cost.

00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:57.990
And then they go back on sale, and then there

00:25:57.990 --> 00:26:01.509
will usually be a local sale, etc., etc., etc.

00:26:02.710 --> 00:26:06.230
The short version is if you don't care what specific

00:26:06.230 --> 00:26:08.609
game you want to go to for the World Cup with

00:26:08.609 --> 00:26:12.990
the expanded 48 -team World Cup, I would probably

00:26:12.990 --> 00:26:18.089
say wait to buy tickets. If you are looking for

00:26:18.089 --> 00:26:21.170
specific games or marquee teams, you're going

00:26:21.170 --> 00:26:23.609
to want to buy tickets when they go on sale because

00:26:23.609 --> 00:26:25.730
it'll be harder to get. But there's going to

00:26:25.730 --> 00:26:28.710
be games here in Seattle. There's going to be

00:26:28.710 --> 00:26:39.009
a team like Vietnam versus Cameroon, something

00:26:39.009 --> 00:26:40.970
like that, where there's going to be some games

00:26:40.970 --> 00:26:46.180
that are not super high interest. Right. I mean,

00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.480
I want to go to the USA game, obviously. And

00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:50.799
that's my goal. If I only get one is to go to

00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.599
that, but I'll go to any of the games. And I,

00:26:53.660 --> 00:26:56.240
even to me, that is fascinating game. Like when,

00:26:56.339 --> 00:26:59.779
when Copa America was Haiti versus Cuba or something

00:26:59.779 --> 00:27:02.079
like that, or Peru, there was like, there was

00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:03.920
one of those types of games, but it was still

00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:09.319
fun. The women's world cup games that I had no.

00:27:10.019 --> 00:27:12.400
knowledge of the team turned out to be some of

00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.039
the great games you know switzerland versus cameroon

00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.180
and um just just a lot of fun so so ultimately

00:27:19.180 --> 00:27:21.619
it'll be it'll be exciting i think i did the

00:27:21.619 --> 00:27:25.119
math and i think there will be a guaranteed minimum

00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:29.099
of seven different nations playing in seattle

00:27:29.099 --> 00:27:32.660
um there is the possibility that one team will

00:27:32.660 --> 00:27:35.299
play two group stage games here in seattle they're

00:27:35.299 --> 00:27:37.539
the probability actually because there's two

00:27:37.539 --> 00:27:41.539
like group g games here and we know for sure

00:27:41.539 --> 00:27:44.240
the USA will play one game here. And then, of

00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.059
course, there will be knockout round games, so

00:27:46.059 --> 00:27:48.519
we may get other teams that we hadn't already

00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.059
seen. In the end, it's going to be a great time,

00:27:52.140 --> 00:27:55.660
and it'll give us some fun content as the year

00:27:55.660 --> 00:28:01.920
goes on. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm guessing we're

00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:03.640
going to be priced out of most of those tickets

00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:08.849
unless you and I get a nice big... fancy jobs

00:28:08.849 --> 00:28:10.829
in the next few weeks. Yeah. So if you know any,

00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:15.089
if anyone knows people hiring, let us know. Yeah.

00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:18.829
I mean, I, I'm, I love working for myself and

00:28:18.829 --> 00:28:21.849
I'm teaching now or I'm developing a class now

00:28:21.849 --> 00:28:23.450
that I'm getting paid to develop and I'm teaching

00:28:23.450 --> 00:28:25.710
in the fall, but the teachers don't make a lot

00:28:25.710 --> 00:28:29.799
of money. So not. Enough to get by, but not enough

00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.099
for World Cup. And I mean, you know, my background

00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:36.220
in customer success and account management type

00:28:36.220 --> 00:28:39.640
stuff, I love helping people. And, you know,

00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:44.539
I would love to help people. Hire me. Let's do

00:28:44.539 --> 00:28:47.079
that. Okay, moving on. Let's talk about New Who,

00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:52.660
shall we? We had an interesting game on this

00:28:52.660 --> 00:28:57.819
weekend. New Who. Got himself into a little bit

00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:03.740
of trouble? Yeah, he got a red card for chucking

00:29:03.740 --> 00:29:06.839
the ball at the fan. Unfortunate, stupid mistake,

00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:13.279
but I think a lot of fans piled on because we've

00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:17.619
come to expect stupid mistakes. It's a Rorschach

00:29:17.619 --> 00:29:23.059
test. Yeah, and I think my biggest problem with

00:29:23.059 --> 00:29:31.009
the whole thing isn't actually... that we isn't

00:29:31.009 --> 00:29:33.789
actually mad at the fact, like I'm annoyed at

00:29:33.789 --> 00:29:35.769
the fact he did it. And I think there needs to

00:29:35.769 --> 00:29:38.650
be consequences, but I actually don't like all

00:29:38.650 --> 00:29:40.029
the people that come out of the woodworks and

00:29:40.029 --> 00:29:41.769
just say, if you're critical of him, you just

00:29:41.769 --> 00:29:43.329
clearly always hate them. And you wouldn't do

00:29:43.329 --> 00:29:45.210
this to other people on the team, but you didn't

00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:47.089
do this to Dempsey. And to me, that's a very,

00:29:47.170 --> 00:29:50.150
they're not even close to the same thing. I mean,

00:29:50.170 --> 00:29:51.769
one was in the U S open cup and should not have

00:29:51.769 --> 00:29:53.730
transferred over to MLS soccer. That's ridiculous

00:29:53.730 --> 00:29:57.319
that it did. And that game involved a ref making

00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.259
really, really bad calls. How many times did

00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:02.480
they give our players the finger? Go watch that

00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.579
Jordan Morris goal. There was like 20 people

00:30:05.579 --> 00:30:10.420
behind. I've given the finger. Yeah. I mean,

00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:13.279
you just, you can't chuck the ball. Now I said

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.299
this online on the discord. If someone said something

00:30:16.299 --> 00:30:19.039
racist to him, I want, I want him, I would, I

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.400
would support him even if he went and did an

00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.900
Eric Cantona kick to the dude's head, I would

00:30:23.900 --> 00:30:27.059
be in favor of it. Like, I'm sorry if you're

00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:30.880
a bigot, get the F out. But that's not what happened

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.920
because Schmetzer would have said that. And we

00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.460
know based on what he said then and now. So it's

00:30:35.460 --> 00:30:38.119
unfortunate. I don't think we need to go too

00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.500
much into it. People know that it's frustrating.

00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:43.500
The most frustrating thing for me is you can't

00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:45.259
rely for him to be on the field if he's going

00:30:45.259 --> 00:30:48.920
to act this way. Yeah, it's a concerning pattern.

00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.960
It's been a concerning month for Nuhu. Well,

00:30:53.140 --> 00:30:58.630
I'm going to refresh that. I do not want to lump

00:30:58.630 --> 00:31:01.789
in the Vancouver red card with the Botafogo incident

00:31:01.789 --> 00:31:05.109
and this, because the Botafogo and this were

00:31:05.109 --> 00:31:08.890
just unforced errors. The Vancouver red card

00:31:08.890 --> 00:31:15.170
very easily is a soccer play. Yeah, it was stupid.

00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.000
from a soccer brain perspective, not a, that's,

00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.480
that's, that's more, that's more of a, Oh, he

00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.200
thought he was in a position where that's going

00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.819
to give him the yellow and not the dog. So, you

00:31:25.819 --> 00:31:29.259
know, like, I don't think, I don't think he thought

00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:34.119
he was in a last man back situation there. So

00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.140
I'm not going to give, so I just want to be careful

00:31:38.140 --> 00:31:40.920
on, on it. Cause like I said, it's easy to pile

00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.880
on. And there's plenty of ammunition where you

00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.000
want to find it. But this was New Who's fourth

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:51.380
red card. His history was... So the two red cards

00:31:51.380 --> 00:31:56.420
we just talked about. Last year, he got a second

00:31:56.420 --> 00:32:00.240
yellow, which turned into a red. And then his

00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.220
rookie season, he got a straight red. So on one

00:32:04.220 --> 00:32:07.359
side, let's kind of slow the horses here and

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.799
not pretend that New Who's got a history of...

00:32:11.259 --> 00:32:15.599
of red cards because that's not really true but

00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.299
but he does have a history of making interesting

00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:23.640
decisions yeah and and and wait when was the

00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.859
one that was in was it in the playoffs when it

00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:30.420
was like the first five minutes when he like

00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:33.140
swung and missed and got a red card and i mean

00:32:33.140 --> 00:32:35.720
there's just like there's times where you just

00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.759
like what are you doing from a soccer perspective

00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:40.920
it's boneheaded These are totally different,

00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:43.619
and I think that's why Schmetzer said today on

00:32:43.619 --> 00:32:48.500
KJR with Dick Fane and Greg Bell that Nuhu needs

00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:50.819
to grow up and be a leader on the team as he's

00:32:50.819 --> 00:32:53.000
the fourth longest tenured guy. That's fair to

00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:57.819
call him out on that. Yep. The league suspended

00:32:57.819 --> 00:33:02.019
him $2 ,500 and fined him $2 ,500 and suspended

00:33:02.019 --> 00:33:05.059
him for two games. So three games total or two

00:33:05.059 --> 00:33:08.299
additional games or two games total? I think

00:33:08.299 --> 00:33:10.359
it was two total. Two games total is the way

00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.700
it was said. Okay, so an additional game, which

00:33:12.700 --> 00:33:18.559
tracks to what I thought of in the moment. Yeah,

00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.619
it seems a little light considering what they

00:33:20.619 --> 00:33:24.819
usually give an extra one for. No, fan interaction.

00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.900
Doing anything untowards towards a fan is going

00:33:28.900 --> 00:33:32.579
to get you a minimum of a game. Oh, I thought

00:33:32.579 --> 00:33:34.819
he would have got more is what I'm saying. I

00:33:34.819 --> 00:33:36.720
mean, because he chucked the ball as hard as

00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.299
he could at the dude's head. It wasn't like a

00:33:38.299 --> 00:33:40.440
soft. With velocity. I wouldn't say as hard as

00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:42.200
he could, but you're not wrong. He definitely

00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:49.980
threw at a pace that was unnecessary. Yeah. And

00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:53.960
look, I'm one to talk. I've had moments, even

00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:57.940
in soccer, public, where I lose my head and say

00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:02.819
dumb shit. But in your defense, you were a rookie.

00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:07.480
And so now you're becoming a veteran, and there's

00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.300
no time for that shit. I became a veteran and

00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:13.659
was nominated for most fun player on my team.

00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:15.079
Yeah, because people like watching to see what

00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.739
stupid shit you're going to do next. No, it's

00:34:19.739 --> 00:34:23.400
actually because I'm a rah -rah guy behind the

00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:30.510
scenes and try to have fun. I don't think we

00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:32.570
need to say too much more. It's just, it's disappointing

00:34:32.570 --> 00:34:38.849
for a player who's not young anymore. It's an

00:34:38.849 --> 00:34:42.329
unneeded distraction. It goes. Yeah. And what

00:34:42.329 --> 00:34:44.570
we talked about last season and the season before,

00:34:44.630 --> 00:34:46.630
you know, when, when he missed his flights home

00:34:46.630 --> 00:34:49.670
and the other times when he got COVID because

00:34:49.670 --> 00:34:51.050
he was hanging out with people, he shouldn't

00:34:51.050 --> 00:34:55.050
have been. And just, he got the blood disease

00:34:55.050 --> 00:35:01.340
that one time. Not malaria. Yeah, for me, it's

00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:04.139
just a series of questionable decisions that

00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:07.860
you need to hold yourself to a more rigid standard

00:35:07.860 --> 00:35:10.579
as a professional athlete when your team's relying

00:35:10.579 --> 00:35:13.960
on you. I think people think because I'm critical

00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.739
of him going forward that I don't think he is

00:35:17.739 --> 00:35:22.000
valuable for the team. But when we did on the

00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.219
most recent Ultras episode, when we broke down

00:35:24.219 --> 00:35:27.159
our best 11 all -time for the Sounders, he's

00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:31.320
my starting left back. Like, he's the best defensive

00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.760
left back we've ever had, in my opinion. He's

00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.719
kind of the opposite of Brad Smith. Fair enough.

00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:47.340
So I just wish it wouldn't. I mean, if you get

00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:52.699
a red card in the game for trying to stop a guy

00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:54.940
breaking away, whatever, that's one thing. It's

00:35:54.940 --> 00:35:58.539
boneheaded. It's stupid. I think unforced errors,

00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.119
is that what you called it? I think that's what

00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.039
it is to me. We've had so many injuries this

00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:08.920
year. The Sounders don't need more unforced errors,

00:36:09.139 --> 00:36:12.940
right? It's going to hurt us not having him on

00:36:12.940 --> 00:36:15.780
the field because there is a drop -off defensively

00:36:15.780 --> 00:36:19.340
from him to Cody Baker or Reed Baker -Whitey.

00:36:21.780 --> 00:36:25.670
So we'll see what happens. What games is he missing?

00:36:25.710 --> 00:36:28.949
Well, we play Colorado tomorrow. And then I believe

00:36:28.949 --> 00:36:31.389
our next game after that is against San Jose.

00:36:31.429 --> 00:36:34.590
Does that sound right to you? That's correct.

00:36:34.690 --> 00:36:37.849
San Jose for the Heritage Cup. Winner takes all.

00:36:37.989 --> 00:36:43.050
Or if we tie 0 -0, it goes to Seattle. If we

00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:45.750
tie 2 -2 or greater, it goes to San Jose. And

00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:48.090
then I don't know what the tiebreaker is. If

00:36:48.090 --> 00:36:50.369
it's 1 -1, I'll have to look more into that.

00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.800
But, yeah, so we've got Colorado tomorrow, San

00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.719
Jose on Saturday, and then we have a week off.

00:36:58.340 --> 00:37:00.460
We'll play the following Saturday against Atlanta.

00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.260
That game will be on the road. I know. Yeah,

00:37:05.300 --> 00:37:06.699
let's actually – I don't think we talked about

00:37:06.699 --> 00:37:09.599
that. We haven't talked about it. We talked about

00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.880
it on – Yeah, let's take a quick moment on that.

00:37:12.019 --> 00:37:15.280
So news is that Gerd Laguerre is stepping down

00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.829
temporarily from – From Atlanta Operations as

00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:31.929
he is battling cancer. Garth is my hope for Commissioner

00:37:31.929 --> 00:37:37.030
when Don Garber steps down. I think he's exactly

00:37:37.030 --> 00:37:42.949
the right dynamic for that. He's a truly genuine

00:37:42.949 --> 00:37:47.119
guy. Someone who... Clearly knows the game inside

00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.360
and out, both as a player, as a lawyer, as a

00:37:50.360 --> 00:38:00.760
front office person. And he's got a very big

00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.179
picture look at things. Things aren't going great

00:38:05.179 --> 00:38:11.539
for them in Atlanta right now. But, yeah, I mean...

00:38:14.090 --> 00:38:19.429
Yeah, so just shout out to Garth. Garth, make

00:38:19.429 --> 00:38:22.070
a big, speedy recovery, and you can go smack

00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:24.369
another raw egg over my head whenever you're

00:38:24.369 --> 00:38:30.389
feeling better. I've got a great GIF that I posted

00:38:30.389 --> 00:38:36.150
to the Discord of playing egg Russian roulette

00:38:36.150 --> 00:38:41.010
with him and Alex rolled on and Christian rolled

00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:51.019
on. So each of them were standing behind a contestant,

00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.179
me being one of the three contestants. And we'd

00:38:54.179 --> 00:38:57.460
pick an egg, and they would smash the egg over

00:38:57.460 --> 00:39:00.599
our head. If it's hard -boiled, we advance. If

00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:06.579
it's raw egg, we are eliminated. And, yeah, so

00:39:06.579 --> 00:39:11.260
I've got a great video of him smashing my raw

00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:16.320
egg over my head. Good stuff. Yeah. And I can't

00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.920
remember if I talked about this on, on the last

00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.179
episode of, of Scuttlebutt with the ultras, because

00:39:22.179 --> 00:39:25.820
I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm super bummed about

00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:28.320
this. I got to drop him a note. I haven't yet.

00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.119
Cause I'm sure he's getting so many, but you

00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.940
know, I, I was in communication with him six

00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:35.360
months ago talking about working on a project

00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.460
with him and he was just super excited to hear

00:39:39.460 --> 00:39:42.860
from me. And, you know, we, He'd heard about

00:39:42.860 --> 00:39:44.840
a job that I'd really wanted that I hadn't gotten.

00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:47.159
And he was just like, it's going to be super

00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.300
cool, man. You're like, you'll, you'll get to

00:39:49.300 --> 00:39:54.559
where you need to be like very encouraging. And

00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.739
he's just, yeah, it's such a genuine dude. I

00:39:56.739 --> 00:40:00.699
mean, this is the guy who right after we had

00:40:00.699 --> 00:40:04.780
won champions league, he grabbed me and just

00:40:04.780 --> 00:40:07.119
hugged me. And I was like, you did it, Garth.

00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.570
You did it. And he's like, no, we did it. and

00:40:10.570 --> 00:40:14.769
not in the cheesy way he's just yeah no he meant

00:40:14.769 --> 00:40:21.050
he meant it like uh and so you know he's just

00:40:21.050 --> 00:40:27.090
such a genuinely good guy and and uh not someone

00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:31.530
that i would ever I mean, not that I want something

00:40:31.530 --> 00:40:33.829
bad ever to happen to anyone, but of all the

00:40:33.829 --> 00:40:37.730
people, he's the kind of person we need in soccer

00:40:37.730 --> 00:40:40.110
front offices, or like you said, in MLS front

00:40:40.110 --> 00:40:45.230
offices. And so it's a sad day for U .S. soccer,

00:40:45.409 --> 00:40:50.929
and hopefully he beats it. The information I've

00:40:50.929 --> 00:40:55.429
heard is... that it's a positive prognosis, but

00:40:55.429 --> 00:40:58.030
ultimately it's cancer. You don't fuck around

00:40:58.030 --> 00:41:00.730
with that. You just attack it, attack it hard,

00:41:00.869 --> 00:41:03.309
and it sounds like he's taking all the right

00:41:03.309 --> 00:41:09.730
steps. So Garth, we're thinking of you, and you're

00:41:09.730 --> 00:41:11.309
welcome to come onto the show anytime you want.

00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.039
Of course. I mean, I'm going to reach out to

00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:23.619
him, so I'll mention do it eventually. But, yeah,

00:41:23.780 --> 00:41:30.639
it's a really – it's just – Hey, let's switch

00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.199
over to one more non -soccer -related topic.

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.880
There's some scuttlebutt. How about the big dumper?

00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:46.960
Oh, yeah. Incredible to see a kid who, when he

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:48.880
was a kid, talked about winning the Home Run

00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.739
Derby, and then Kyle Rowley goes ahead and wins

00:41:51.739 --> 00:41:53.760
the Home Run Derby. And literally the first ever

00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:57.420
catcher to win the Home Run Derby. And not only

00:41:57.420 --> 00:42:01.000
that, I don't recall ever seeing a Home Run Derby

00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.239
contestant switch hitting during a round. Yeah.

00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:12.199
You know who did in Seattle? Oh, the Oregon guy?

00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.619
uh was he with uh not the nationals was he baltimore

00:42:16.619 --> 00:42:21.940
yeah baltimore yeah okay he did he hit us he

00:42:21.940 --> 00:42:24.760
went around but he didn't do it throughout okay

00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:29.139
but uh when last year when it was in seattle

00:42:29.139 --> 00:42:34.300
uh he did that so uh it was pretty incredible

00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:37.340
but yeah i mean cal raleigh of course one for

00:42:37.340 --> 00:42:40.860
two today better than mike mike judd better than

00:42:40.860 --> 00:42:44.349
uh aaron judge And, you know, unfortunately,

00:42:44.530 --> 00:42:47.070
the National League won in a home runoff because

00:42:47.070 --> 00:42:50.570
it was tied 6 -6 after nine innings. Kind of

00:42:50.570 --> 00:42:54.590
a joke. I mean, how did that even work? I didn't

00:42:54.590 --> 00:42:59.329
see, but... I don't even know. I didn't watch

00:42:59.329 --> 00:43:01.929
it. It was on in the background when I took my

00:43:01.929 --> 00:43:04.510
nephew earlier today to our favorite place in

00:43:04.510 --> 00:43:07.530
Robin at Northgate. But I did love that Humpy

00:43:07.530 --> 00:43:17.170
was there at the... Yeah, they did a mascot race,

00:43:17.570 --> 00:43:21.170
and Humpy was definitely bringing out the rear.

00:43:22.630 --> 00:43:27.389
It's great stuff. Speaking of which, did you

00:43:27.389 --> 00:43:30.590
see that later this season they are doing a bobblehead

00:43:30.590 --> 00:43:34.030
night, one of the community theme nights. So

00:43:34.030 --> 00:43:36.050
you have to buy the special community theme ticket.

00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.840
when you buy the ticket, you choose which of

00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:46.400
the four fish you want as the bobblehead. Yeah.

00:43:46.539 --> 00:43:51.099
I mean, it makes me really bummed that I don't

00:43:51.099 --> 00:43:57.179
have back -to -my -career type of jobs because

00:43:57.179 --> 00:43:59.239
I would have gotten four tickets and gotten one

00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:00.920
of each of the four bobbleheads for that one.

00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:07.460
Okay. So now... Why don't we why don't we do

00:44:07.460 --> 00:44:12.780
on a recap the Seattle Game this weekend. Do

00:44:12.780 --> 00:44:14.420
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00:44:43.900 --> 00:44:46.719
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00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:46.460
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00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:49.670
there was an extra game. Uh, this week, uh, and

00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:51.309
while we had to record late, we ended up recording

00:46:51.309 --> 00:46:54.190
two episodes in a row, which we don't, we don't

00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:56.889
see very often. Uh, so we're kind of jumping

00:46:56.889 --> 00:46:59.409
in after that, but I tried to save my opinions

00:46:59.409 --> 00:47:01.849
mainly for this and just kind of guide them on

00:47:01.849 --> 00:47:04.329
their journey. But I was super, I'm super impressed

00:47:04.329 --> 00:47:09.949
with their, um, their episodes. I mean, uh, the,

00:47:10.070 --> 00:47:12.050
the second one where we talked about new who

00:47:12.050 --> 00:47:15.670
and stuff, uh, got as many downloads as any normal

00:47:15.670 --> 00:47:18.980
episode of our show. Good on them for coming

00:47:18.980 --> 00:47:21.840
in and picking it up where we left off and just

00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.760
being a part of the team. Yeah, yeah. It's great

00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.340
to have them in the fold and just adding more

00:47:28.340 --> 00:47:30.780
additional content. Because ultimately, that's

00:47:30.780 --> 00:47:32.539
what we're here for. We're here to sit around,

00:47:32.659 --> 00:47:35.239
have a beverage, talk some soccer, talk some

00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.679
pop culture, enjoy the community of what we all

00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.239
love together, which is Sounders soccer. So speaking

00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:48.500
of Sounders soccer, this weekend. We had definitely

00:47:48.500 --> 00:47:51.639
a game. And you know what? This really would

00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.940
have been a game. We've done some live episodes,

00:47:55.139 --> 00:47:58.320
especially on Road Games, where Cameron and I

00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:02.320
will do live recording. I feel like this game

00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:10.440
would have been interesting. To watch brains

00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:16.230
melting in real time. Yeah, so starting off in

00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:19.329
the first half, first off, I guess we'll say,

00:48:19.449 --> 00:48:21.710
why don't we talk about the score prediction

00:48:21.710 --> 00:48:26.690
challenge? Yeah, yeah, because we have a tie.

00:48:27.170 --> 00:48:30.969
One is a second -time winner. I know. One is

00:48:30.969 --> 00:48:33.690
a two -time winner. And have you won before this

00:48:33.690 --> 00:48:38.050
season? I think I did have one early in the season.

00:48:38.230 --> 00:48:40.329
Okay, so a couple of double -time winners, but

00:48:40.329 --> 00:48:42.170
the other one is more impressive than yours.

00:48:42.250 --> 00:48:44.989
No offense. I mean, you're not wrong. You have

00:48:44.989 --> 00:48:47.630
soccer knowledge. I don't know what, what she's

00:48:47.630 --> 00:48:50.949
drawing from. Well, here's the crazy thing is

00:48:50.949 --> 00:48:53.550
I don't tell. So, so let's, let's say, so with

00:48:53.550 --> 00:48:58.050
four points, both myself and my daughter, Roma,

00:48:58.150 --> 00:49:03.340
five -year -old who has gotten two wins in. Three

00:49:03.340 --> 00:49:06.159
weeks? I mean, I only started asking her for

00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:09.420
scores like three games ago, and she's got two

00:49:09.420 --> 00:49:13.460
wins. That's really incredible. I don't know

00:49:13.460 --> 00:49:18.340
what that means. But, yeah, it's funny because

00:49:18.340 --> 00:49:22.739
we both predicted three goals for the Sounders.

00:49:23.579 --> 00:49:28.559
She predicted a 3 -0 win. I predicted 3 -1. and

00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.860
we both predicted Jordan Morris. Now, what's

00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:33.139
funny is I don't lead her on it. I just ask her,

00:49:33.179 --> 00:49:35.360
hey, who's going to win? What do you think the

00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.760
score is going to be? And she just makes it up.

00:49:38.780 --> 00:49:41.480
I'm waiting for her one day to say, like, 10

00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:47.119
to 7. But until then, you know. So the rest of

00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.420
us, I'm going to even throw myself in there because

00:49:50.420 --> 00:49:54.599
her points per game is off the charts right now.

00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:57.739
So we've got some work to do. Yeah, yeah, totally.

00:49:59.460 --> 00:50:04.159
I mean, it's fun, though. It's fun. I can't complain

00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.760
about it. I, of course, picked one -to -one and

00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:13.239
did not get it. Didn't work out. I'd been convinced

00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.260
to pick better, and then I went back on it by

00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:19.980
the time it had started. So, yeah, going into

00:50:19.980 --> 00:50:24.760
the game, Sporting Kansas City was... Having

00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.599
some decent results, unbeaten in three, two wins,

00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:33.699
but they were susceptible. They've been leaking

00:50:33.699 --> 00:50:37.360
goals all season long, and I think that really

00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:42.579
showed right from the opening whistle. I think

00:50:42.579 --> 00:50:45.840
it was really interesting to see the Sounders

00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.380
just kind of having their way with them. That

00:50:48.380 --> 00:50:53.789
first half, we were making... Just amazing passes.

00:50:53.949 --> 00:50:56.789
We were doing switches. We were attacking in

00:50:56.789 --> 00:51:00.329
all sorts of creative, awesome ways. I think

00:51:00.329 --> 00:51:04.909
that starting lineup with Jordan up top, with

00:51:04.909 --> 00:51:07.929
Paul Rothrock, Albert Rosnack, Jesus Ferreira,

00:51:07.929 --> 00:51:10.050
and the Band of Three, and Christian and Obed

00:51:10.050 --> 00:51:13.389
behind them was really, really dynamic. There

00:51:13.389 --> 00:51:16.150
were moments where I was seeing Obed deep into

00:51:16.150 --> 00:51:21.360
the box. making runs and making plays. Just really,

00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.500
really pleased with what I saw there. What were

00:51:24.500 --> 00:51:27.559
your thoughts on that beginning to the game?

00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:29.940
Yeah, I mean, I think I was really surprised

00:51:29.940 --> 00:51:35.119
that it was that instant, but just incredible

00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:39.019
to see us come out firing in all cylinders like

00:51:39.019 --> 00:51:41.300
we hoped they would and just kind of stick it

00:51:41.300 --> 00:51:44.820
to them. To me, it almost created a tale of two

00:51:44.820 --> 00:51:48.659
halves. This is what I think Aaron and I have

00:51:48.659 --> 00:51:51.039
been calling for. Now we just need a little bit

00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.400
of consistency. Yep, it literally is the tale

00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.000
of two halves. I mean, if I flip it upside down,

00:51:57.099 --> 00:52:01.059
it's the same thing. The momentum meter that

00:52:01.059 --> 00:52:05.159
we love to play around with. But you're not wrong

00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:08.780
because in the first half, we had 61 % possession.

00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.400
We had expected goals of 2 .12 in the first half

00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:18.119
to 0 .35. Six shots on target, three big chances,

00:52:18.219 --> 00:52:23.840
and we missed none of the big chances, and we

00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:26.260
were just dominating. And then the second half

00:52:26.260 --> 00:52:28.800
was the other way around, where Kansas City,

00:52:28.940 --> 00:52:32.219
instead of us having 61 % possession, they had

00:52:32.219 --> 00:52:37.519
58 % possession. They had an expected goals of

00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:43.460
3 .08 to our .20. They had 17 shots, five on

00:52:43.460 --> 00:52:47.320
target in the second half. to our four shots,

00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:50.579
one on target. And it just, yeah, just completely,

00:52:50.820 --> 00:52:55.619
completely different. Now, game state matters,

00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:59.599
and to Kansas City's credit, they did not give

00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:05.500
up. But I think it also speaks loudly to the

00:53:05.500 --> 00:53:13.239
narrative that this starting 11 was really good.

00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:19.659
And it was nice to have a DP forward in our lineup.

00:53:20.820 --> 00:53:23.760
Yeah, it made a big difference for sure. And

00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:29.980
I wonder, Schmetzer after the game said that

00:53:29.980 --> 00:53:33.000
he felt like both of the goals were penalties

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:38.639
so that we shouldn't be too concerned about it,

00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:46.309
I guess. I think the second one especially was

00:53:46.309 --> 00:53:48.949
a... I'm pissed about the second one because

00:53:48.949 --> 00:53:51.869
there were two fouls immediately before that

00:53:51.869 --> 00:53:54.849
where it should not have even had... If you're

00:53:54.849 --> 00:53:59.789
going to VAR a foul in the box but then ignore

00:53:59.789 --> 00:54:03.510
the two blatant fouls before that within 10 seconds,

00:54:03.670 --> 00:54:08.510
I mean, hell, the... The second foul was at the

00:54:08.510 --> 00:54:12.030
beginning of the replay going into the box. You

00:54:12.030 --> 00:54:16.190
have to watch that foul. So it's just really

00:54:16.190 --> 00:54:18.550
annoying. Really annoying. There was a handball.

00:54:18.929 --> 00:54:21.750
And then to start that whole sequence for Kansas

00:54:21.750 --> 00:54:25.250
City. So it's almost it would have been better

00:54:25.250 --> 00:54:28.949
if they had scored instead of drew the penalty.

00:54:29.030 --> 00:54:31.630
Because if they had scored, those fouls could

00:54:31.630 --> 00:54:37.000
have been come back. I don't know if the rule

00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.039
needs to be rewritten or if this is just a bad,

00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:43.980
like a rarity that just doesn't really happen

00:54:43.980 --> 00:54:47.099
and just have to suck it up and go, that's soccer.

00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:51.719
But I can be annoyed by that. Yeah, yeah. I mean,

00:54:51.739 --> 00:54:55.099
I feel like they should have the ability to go

00:54:55.099 --> 00:54:58.659
back and look at that. But, I mean, it clearly

00:54:58.659 --> 00:55:01.039
was a penalty, though, that one. I think the

00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:03.099
first one was really soft. I did not like the

00:55:03.099 --> 00:55:05.670
call. especially the more times I watched the

00:55:05.670 --> 00:55:07.530
replay, the more I was just like, how do you

00:55:07.530 --> 00:55:13.849
go to VAR and call this a penalty? Yeah. At the

00:55:13.849 --> 00:55:16.150
same time, if it had been called a penalty in

00:55:16.150 --> 00:55:18.570
real time, I don't know if VAR is going to overturn

00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:22.710
it. But VAR should not. I hate that, though.

00:55:22.730 --> 00:55:25.070
VAR, I think, should call the correct call, not

00:55:25.070 --> 00:55:29.489
like in the NFL where they're like, well, there

00:55:29.489 --> 00:55:31.469
has to be convincing evidence. I'm like, no,

00:55:31.510 --> 00:55:33.809
just call what you see. Just get on the right

00:55:33.809 --> 00:55:38.570
call. Like, this is silly. But, hey, in the end,

00:55:38.690 --> 00:55:46.010
it's, you know, what it was. They get a couple

00:55:46.010 --> 00:55:49.710
penalties. And let's be perfectly honest here.

00:55:50.469 --> 00:55:53.070
Okay, let's take either of those penalties. There

00:55:53.070 --> 00:55:56.670
were arguments that could be made that maybe

00:55:56.670 --> 00:56:00.309
either one maybe could have been called differently.

00:56:00.989 --> 00:56:03.650
If that exact same thing happened a few times,

00:56:03.710 --> 00:56:05.989
maybe it gets called differently. Maybe the fouls

00:56:05.989 --> 00:56:08.929
get called. Maybe they don't call that a penalty,

00:56:09.090 --> 00:56:12.530
this first one. Who knows? But can we please

00:56:12.530 --> 00:56:14.650
talk about the save of the year from Alex Roldan?

00:56:15.989 --> 00:56:19.949
Every time I watch that replay, I pull a muscle.

00:56:20.349 --> 00:56:25.030
Yeah. I mean, it's painful to watch. How do you

00:56:25.030 --> 00:56:31.559
even get your leg to do that? just wow um just

00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:35.320
wow so so with that said they're you know let's

00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.900
also be honest that should have been a goal um

00:56:37.900 --> 00:56:43.139
so so you know uh just just just interesting

00:56:43.139 --> 00:56:48.179
interesting game um negatives i mean obviously

00:56:48.179 --> 00:56:53.860
we talked about new who i'm not thrilled about

00:56:53.860 --> 00:56:58.130
that um More importantly, I think my biggest

00:56:58.130 --> 00:57:04.730
issue about that is at the time of the replay

00:57:04.730 --> 00:57:08.170
when he is about to throw that ball to the fan,

00:57:08.329 --> 00:57:14.030
all the other sounders, except I think Jonathan

00:57:14.030 --> 00:57:16.449
Bell's in the area, all the other sounders are

00:57:16.449 --> 00:57:18.210
at the sideline. Yeah, I don't understand why

00:57:18.210 --> 00:57:20.090
he was over there. Why is he there? What's he

00:57:20.090 --> 00:57:23.980
doing over there? So I almost... There's a side

00:57:23.980 --> 00:57:26.300
of me that wants to know. The other side is like,

00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.559
fuck it, let's move on. With the exception of

00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:33.440
we got one of the most hilarious forever going

00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:37.719
to be used images in soccer history. Of him flipping

00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:41.699
off the ref? Because he's trying to explain why

00:57:41.699 --> 00:57:44.860
I was doing it, which still doesn't... How do

00:57:44.860 --> 00:57:47.460
you think that's going to make it better? Yeah.

00:57:48.900 --> 00:57:56.789
Yeah. It's just... I don't even know. I don't

00:57:56.789 --> 00:58:00.909
even know. But hey, I want to give some big credits

00:58:00.909 --> 00:58:05.190
as Kansas City. It'd be so easy to just give

00:58:05.190 --> 00:58:08.679
up at that point. And that's not what happened.

00:58:08.739 --> 00:58:11.340
They fought real hard. They had a great second

00:58:11.340 --> 00:58:14.099
half. They definitely got the moral victory on

00:58:14.099 --> 00:58:16.820
the day, but they don't get three points. They

00:58:16.820 --> 00:58:20.000
don't get three points. And that's ultimately,

00:58:20.179 --> 00:58:23.320
we came away with three points. So we did our

00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:29.219
job. Well, we did a job. Can we talk about the

00:58:29.219 --> 00:58:34.000
performances of some of our attacking options

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:38.579
off the bench? Yes, please do. And I have a theory.

00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.960
It could be bunnies for you Buffy the Vampire

00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:47.940
Slayer fans. But no, I do have a theory. So Ryan

00:58:47.940 --> 00:58:54.000
Kent, Pedro de la Vega, both looked ineffective

00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:59.559
for large swaths of their appearance time. Although

00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:03.389
they did have a really good... opportunity together

00:59:03.389 --> 00:59:06.010
in like the 90th minute in stoppage time that

00:59:06.010 --> 00:59:08.130
that looked really good ryan kent just basically

00:59:08.130 --> 00:59:12.050
made you know uh fuck this shit i'm running 60

00:59:12.050 --> 00:59:16.289
yards myself and and pass it all to pedro who

00:59:16.289 --> 00:59:21.610
who misses quite quite spectacularly but my theory

00:59:21.610 --> 00:59:28.110
is this neither of them had experienced what

00:59:28.110 --> 00:59:32.260
ichiro loves to say in his favorite quote which

00:59:32.260 --> 00:59:37.679
is summer in kansas city is hotter than two rats

00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.920
in a wool sock that is a real quote um from each

00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.400
row was that pop costas was that the interview

00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.460
i think it was but so if you don't know that

00:59:49.460 --> 00:59:53.219
clip go find it it's great but but thinking back

00:59:53.219 --> 00:59:57.500
to um One of the all -time worst Sounders games

00:59:57.500 --> 00:59:59.440
ever. The game that got Ziggy Schmidt fired.

00:59:59.820 --> 01:00:03.599
Similar thing. We're just lackluster performance

01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:08.920
by some players. Who was it? Was it Joven Jones

01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:14.320
that stopped running on their third goal? There

01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:19.739
were a lot of problems that game. But it makes

01:00:19.739 --> 01:00:25.320
me wonder if... Kent and De La Vega had never

01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:30.380
had to play in that kind of a condition. I don't

01:00:30.380 --> 01:00:31.800
know. I'm trying to give a benefit of the doubt

01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:34.079
because they both did not look great. They look

01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:39.960
better than Danny did. I mean, I know that's

01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:45.449
not saying a lot. Well, wait, let me take that

01:00:45.449 --> 01:00:47.230
back, though. The thing, though, is before that

01:00:47.230 --> 01:00:50.530
first penalty, Pedro does make a great defensive

01:00:50.530 --> 01:00:53.409
play running all the way back and makes a great

01:00:53.409 --> 01:00:57.630
tackle block at the top of the box. And then

01:00:57.630 --> 01:01:01.570
seconds later, we draw the penalty. But he also

01:01:01.570 --> 01:01:05.710
basically gifted some balls to Kansas City to

01:01:05.710 --> 01:01:08.170
lead directly to penalties. And so, I don't know.

01:01:08.230 --> 01:01:12.550
It's just... I want Pedro to do so well. And

01:01:12.550 --> 01:01:14.630
it just, it just, it just frustrates the hell

01:01:14.630 --> 01:01:18.929
out of me when he isn't showing his skill. What

01:01:18.929 --> 01:01:23.090
do you think it is? Why? I mean, to me, and,

01:01:23.170 --> 01:01:25.710
and I can't, obviously we don't know, we don't

01:01:25.710 --> 01:01:27.869
have behind the scenes on this. You know, maybe

01:01:27.869 --> 01:01:35.289
it's something, maybe I'll email our GM. My brain

01:01:35.289 --> 01:01:38.269
is not working tonight, obviously, but maybe

01:01:38.269 --> 01:01:42.340
I'll. you know me email uh our friend over in

01:01:42.340 --> 01:01:44.500
the front office and just talk to him about it

01:01:44.500 --> 01:01:49.559
because i feel like with more minutes we would

01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:51.420
see more out of de la vega but he's not even

01:01:51.420 --> 01:01:58.199
getting the minutes to show himself yeah i mean

01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:05.260
and it doesn't help that um i mean here's the

01:02:05.260 --> 01:02:08.900
reality is is the talent that you have only gets

01:02:08.900 --> 01:02:12.860
you so far. You've got to perform. Yeah. And

01:02:12.860 --> 01:02:18.139
who are you going to give those minutes to? Are

01:02:18.139 --> 01:02:19.380
you going to give them to Pedro? Are you going

01:02:19.380 --> 01:02:22.239
to give them to Jesus Ferreira? Are you going

01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.400
to give them to Paul Rothrock? And Rothrock and

01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.159
Ferreira have been getting them, but I have not

01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:31.000
seen, I mean, maybe Ferreira is amazing in practice.

01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:32.900
I've not seen enough out of Ferreira to make

01:02:32.900 --> 01:02:36.000
me think he should be starting over Kent or De

01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:38.699
La Vega. And De La Vega usually is on the left,

01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.980
not the right, but he can do both. I mean, for

01:02:41.980 --> 01:02:45.500
us, but he can do both. I mean, Jesus has three

01:02:45.500 --> 01:02:48.059
goals, four assists in the, in the season. Yeah.

01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:53.880
In regular season play. I, I, and I think he's

01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:56.099
been, he's been showing really well these last

01:02:56.099 --> 01:02:58.579
few weeks for sure. I would agree with that,

01:02:58.619 --> 01:03:01.300
but I don't, it's few and far between at times

01:03:01.300 --> 01:03:04.320
because I don't think he was great during the

01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:09.179
club world cup. So, I mean, I think if we take

01:03:09.179 --> 01:03:10.780
that blip out, he was good before and after.

01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:15.440
But he wasn't bad. He just wasn't, you know,

01:03:15.460 --> 01:03:17.599
Christian good. Christian was obviously the star

01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:20.340
of the Club World Cup for us. Well, I mean, it's

01:03:20.340 --> 01:03:25.599
also easier given our competition for a defensive

01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:30.760
player to shine in this because you're asking

01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.599
a defensive player to do what he does best. I

01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.320
think there's a frustration for me. that Jesus,

01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:41.360
he's kind of like Danny in that he's getting

01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:43.780
in the right position, but he's stopped scoring.

01:03:44.780 --> 01:03:48.699
Danny has scored, was it one goal in 11 matches,

01:03:48.860 --> 01:03:51.739
two goals in those last 11? He's fallen off,

01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.679
right? And so I think we've seen Jesus have multiple

01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:57.260
chances, including during the Club World Cup,

01:03:57.420 --> 01:04:00.780
where if he just didn't lean back, it's in the

01:04:00.780 --> 01:04:03.739
goal. True, but he's also got two goals in, what,

01:04:03.739 --> 01:04:08.449
three games? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and this is

01:04:08.449 --> 01:04:10.150
why I think he's probably killing it at practice.

01:04:12.050 --> 01:04:14.369
Because Schmetzer's going to go with the hot

01:04:14.369 --> 01:04:16.789
hand, I would think. But also, at times, Schmetzer's

01:04:16.789 --> 01:04:18.570
gone with his guys. And this is something we've

01:04:18.570 --> 01:04:20.309
talked about in the past, and it makes me wonder.

01:04:21.949 --> 01:04:24.409
We always had, and this is supposed to be Freddy

01:04:24.409 --> 01:04:26.829
Juarez's role, when we had Gonzo, he was the

01:04:26.829 --> 01:04:29.130
one in Schmetzer's ear making sure he made the

01:04:29.130 --> 01:04:31.269
necessary changes to the hot player and not just

01:04:31.269 --> 01:04:36.030
going with his players. And I wonder if Freddie

01:04:36.030 --> 01:04:39.289
does that, make good changes, but it's at halftime.

01:04:39.309 --> 01:04:43.869
It's the Pete Carroll philosophy when oftentimes

01:04:43.869 --> 01:04:45.550
for Pete Carroll, it ended up being too little

01:04:45.550 --> 01:04:50.750
too late. And I don't know what it is. Why do

01:04:50.750 --> 01:04:53.530
some of our players play this really good, some

01:04:53.530 --> 01:04:56.809
games and then awful other games? There's plenty

01:04:56.809 --> 01:04:58.909
of reasons why, but the lack of consistency for

01:04:58.909 --> 01:05:01.070
our club is frustrating. I'm just hoping we've

01:05:01.070 --> 01:05:03.289
turned a new corner. I'm frustrated, though,

01:05:03.309 --> 01:05:04.869
that the League's Cup is interrupting League

01:05:04.869 --> 01:05:08.690
play again, though. I'm excited for the League's

01:05:08.690 --> 01:05:10.050
Cup. I know you aren't going to be there, but

01:05:10.050 --> 01:05:12.550
I'm going to go. Well, I'll be at the Cruz Azul

01:05:12.550 --> 01:05:14.449
game. Okay. You're going to chant death with

01:05:14.449 --> 01:05:17.710
me? You know it. I did sign up for the Vamos

01:05:17.710 --> 01:05:21.769
Saunders Club. Oh, sweet. Good for you. Habla

01:05:21.769 --> 01:05:23.690
espanol? Have you been practicing? Un poquito.

01:05:24.610 --> 01:05:27.349
No, funny enough, though, actually, you would

01:05:27.349 --> 01:05:29.909
not believe. So I have the QR code on my phone.

01:05:30.449 --> 01:05:33.329
And because of what I'm doing with some of the

01:05:33.329 --> 01:05:38.010
stuff that I do, I interact with a lot of behind

01:05:38.010 --> 01:05:45.510
-the -scenes restaurant workers and a lot of

01:05:45.510 --> 01:05:48.849
heavy Latino and Spanish -speaking members of

01:05:48.849 --> 01:05:51.860
our community. And so I'll ask them if they like

01:05:51.860 --> 01:05:53.920
soccer, if they like football. And they're like,

01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:57.679
yeah. And so I explain what I'm about. I show

01:05:57.679 --> 01:05:59.480
them their QR code. And I explain, do you want

01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.719
to go see the Sounders play Cruz Azul or Tijuana

01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:05.079
or Santos Laguna? And watching their eyes light

01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:07.900
up and like free. And so I'll be like, yeah,

01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:11.699
dos paletos. And explain that the tickets are

01:06:11.699 --> 01:06:16.619
free and such. And it's been great. And so I

01:06:16.619 --> 01:06:22.090
hope. I hope I'm getting a whole bunch of people

01:06:22.090 --> 01:06:24.829
involved in that. I challenge each of you. Hey,

01:06:24.889 --> 01:06:28.190
we are a community. And obviously, this is an

01:06:28.190 --> 01:06:33.269
English -speaking podcast. But I challenge you

01:06:33.269 --> 01:06:40.170
to download or not even download, just pull up

01:06:40.170 --> 01:06:44.570
the link to the Sounders Vamos Club. Save it

01:06:44.570 --> 01:06:48.079
to yourself. Text it to yourself as a link so

01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:50.239
you have it saved so you can share it with people.

01:06:51.019 --> 01:06:54.280
And have a conversation about what you love about

01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:59.099
soccer with someone and offer that to someone.

01:06:59.420 --> 01:07:02.300
So can you tell me more about how you get those

01:07:02.300 --> 01:07:03.980
tickets to that match? Is it you just have to

01:07:03.980 --> 01:07:06.219
be a member? Yeah, so what's going to happen

01:07:06.219 --> 01:07:09.480
is you sign up for the Vamos Sounders Club. Now,

01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.000
it is all in Spanish. So if your Spanish is not

01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.820
great, use Google Translate on the web page and

01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:17.619
you'll put in your information. The moment you

01:07:17.619 --> 01:07:19.500
sign up for it, you're going to get a welcome

01:07:19.500 --> 01:07:23.699
email from the Sounders. And in that email, there

01:07:23.699 --> 01:07:29.800
will be a link to the email will say Bienvenido

01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:34.840
a Vamos Sounders Club. And you're part of this.

01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:40.019
Welcome to the Sounders Club. And, hey, there

01:07:40.019 --> 01:07:43.300
are three games that you can join. The Cruz Azul,

01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:47.280
Santos Laguna, Club Tijuana. Click here for your

01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.039
tickets. When you click on that, it'll take you

01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:52.500
to a link where you can choose which of the three

01:07:52.500 --> 01:07:56.059
games you want to go to. It looks just like this.

01:07:56.780 --> 01:08:00.039
oh yeah just like a regular old uh master page

01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.079
yep but then when you click on it you choose

01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:07.659
which zone you want the ticket in and then when

01:08:07.659 --> 01:08:10.559
you choose because you can sit in the um the

01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.480
the let's go sounders club you know which is

01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:15.900
kind of the hawks nest area you can choose the

01:08:15.900 --> 01:08:18.760
100 level on the corners of the 200 level corners

01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:21.300
so you can choose different spots and your first

01:08:21.300 --> 01:08:25.159
two tickets are free And if you want to add an

01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:28.220
additional couple tickets, it'll be $15 a piece.

01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:30.420
So if you have like four people that want to

01:08:30.420 --> 01:08:33.159
go, you can do that. So it's really straightforward,

01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:39.800
really simple, really easy to do. And so I highly,

01:08:39.859 --> 01:08:42.100
highly recommend share that with people. Let's

01:08:42.100 --> 01:08:47.520
get some new members of our community into the

01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.340
Sounders games and show them why you're listening

01:08:50.340 --> 01:08:54.060
to this podcast. you know why you love the sounders

01:08:54.060 --> 01:08:57.260
so much yeah yeah totally and we're all in this

01:08:57.260 --> 01:08:59.800
together maybe once they have the french version

01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:03.220
i'll join uh you know you know what's interesting

01:09:03.220 --> 01:09:08.020
is sounders beat kansas city on a day that i'm

01:09:08.020 --> 01:09:12.000
watching psg on tv granted but play in a a cup

01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:16.319
final And last time I went to see PSG play in

01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:20.119
person, I was driving to Eugene listening to

01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:23.340
the Sounders as I was headed to see PSG play

01:09:23.340 --> 01:09:26.439
Inter Milan. And PSG Inter Milan was a great

01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:28.460
match other than having to be inside that stadium

01:09:28.460 --> 01:09:33.479
in Eugene with those Ducks fans. But that was

01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.359
the Kansas City match versus Ziggy. They got

01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:40.420
him for Ziggy. So it all comes in circles, I

01:09:40.420 --> 01:09:47.000
guess. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah.

01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:50.140
Join, join the club. Um, you know, my Spanish

01:09:50.140 --> 01:09:52.800
used to be better just, I think living in California,

01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:54.939
you're around it. So I could understand it. And,

01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:56.520
and I mean, my background in French, I think

01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:59.439
help because they're both similar languages,

01:09:59.579 --> 01:10:02.359
a lot of roots. Yeah. So I can, I can get the

01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:04.319
gist of certain things if people talk slower,

01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:08.289
but yeah, I've been out of that. Life for 20

01:10:08.289 --> 01:10:12.149
plus years. So I only know the basics like swearing

01:10:12.149 --> 01:10:18.829
and cuss words. By the way, tomorrow, 7 a .m.

01:10:18.829 --> 01:10:22.850
So before the time that this episode drops, Sounders

01:10:22.850 --> 01:10:27.680
will be. releasing a new kit it appears um they're

01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.979
even showing videos teasing a kit yeah you see

01:10:30.979 --> 01:10:34.380
it you see it in the latest video you see those

01:10:34.380 --> 01:10:36.319
nice shoes where they're skateboarding with the

01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:39.539
shoes i i have there's a song in that though

01:10:39.539 --> 01:10:41.600
that i know the song but i couldn't tell what

01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.819
it was i i got a shazam it or something wait

01:10:43.819 --> 01:10:46.899
in the in that video yeah yeah it's like i know

01:10:46.899 --> 01:10:50.180
this song uh okay give me a second i'm not listening

01:10:50.180 --> 01:10:53.000
it with the sound up so give me one second yeah

01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:05.199
I was hoping it would come through the mic, but

01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:11.260
that's all right. That, that, that anthemic thumping

01:11:11.260 --> 01:11:16.479
with the piano chords. Honestly, I'm not sure

01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:19.020
if it's an actual song or just some free use.

01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:23.479
Nope. I know that song for sure. So we'll have

01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:28.279
to figure that out, but it's a, it's a wonder

01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.819
if it's something local from the nineties. That's

01:11:30.819 --> 01:11:34.510
I wondered. Which I think leads us very well

01:11:34.510 --> 01:11:41.310
into a question we had come from our Discord.

01:11:41.869 --> 01:11:45.789
We pop over here to the mailbag. Do you have

01:11:45.789 --> 01:11:53.649
any 90s Sounders memories, Nick? No, but I do

01:11:53.649 --> 01:11:56.430
have some 90s soccer memories. Oh, being in Buffalo,

01:11:56.569 --> 01:11:58.590
you didn't have any Sounders memories from the

01:11:58.590 --> 01:12:01.670
90s? I did not. I did not. What was the Buffalo

01:12:01.670 --> 01:12:05.029
MISL team called? That would be the Buffalo Blizzard.

01:12:05.329 --> 01:12:07.949
Blizzard. I'm sure they played some cars at some

01:12:07.949 --> 01:12:12.869
point. Rudy and Randy Pikazinski. They were MISL?

01:12:13.489 --> 01:12:18.500
Yeah, they were the indoor soccer. All throughout

01:12:18.500 --> 01:12:21.659
the 90s, they were leading the league in attendance

01:12:21.659 --> 01:12:27.439
a lot of years, drawing quite well. So I was

01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:30.039
going to those games in the late 80s, early 90s,

01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:35.739
even before the 94 World Cup. Then the 94 World

01:12:35.739 --> 01:12:41.020
Cup, my initial, you know, what I loved about

01:12:41.020 --> 01:12:45.390
that was Tony Miola. Yeah. I mean, he was my

01:12:45.390 --> 01:12:48.829
guy. That's incredible. He was the goalie? Yeah,

01:12:48.869 --> 01:12:51.649
Tony Miola. Oh, no, he was not the Buffalo goalie,

01:12:51.649 --> 01:12:56.989
but he was the U .S. I got to meet him outside

01:12:56.989 --> 01:13:02.609
the stadium at the 2009 MLS Cup. Oh, cool. Well,

01:13:02.729 --> 01:13:06.050
what was funny about Miola is at the time, like

01:13:06.050 --> 01:13:08.329
I grew up in Buffalo, and my family were all

01:13:08.329 --> 01:13:11.409
Bills fans. My first ever football game that

01:13:11.409 --> 01:13:13.770
I watched on TV, my favorite color was green,

01:13:13.890 --> 01:13:17.029
so I became a Jets fan. So the Jets were actually

01:13:17.029 --> 01:13:19.609
my favorite team growing up, while the rest of

01:13:19.609 --> 01:13:24.130
my family were Bills fans. So right after the

01:13:24.130 --> 01:13:27.409
World Cup, Miola got a tryout to be a kicker

01:13:27.409 --> 01:13:32.750
for the Jets, but he couldn't beat out Pat Leahy,

01:13:32.750 --> 01:13:35.529
who was the kicker for the Jets back in the day.

01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:39.119
uh old old old man right there yeah you know

01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:41.380
what's interesting is the blizzard and the stars

01:13:41.380 --> 01:13:46.520
had no overlap really yeah the the the stars

01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.979
folded at the end of the 91 -92 season and the

01:13:49.979 --> 01:13:52.399
blizzard started at the beginning of the 92 -93

01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:56.800
season wow for some reason i thought the 80s

01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.239
were involved but maybe maybe my brain's a little

01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.600
fuzzy on that there could have been another uh

01:14:03.350 --> 01:14:06.989
Possibly. Oh, the Buffalo Stallions. That was

01:14:06.989 --> 01:14:09.670
the old NES. They played from 79 to 84 in the

01:14:09.670 --> 01:14:15.689
MISL. Yeah, but I never saw the Stallions. We're

01:14:15.689 --> 01:14:17.229
going to chalk that up to fuzzy memory. I'll

01:14:17.229 --> 01:14:19.270
own it that I don't remember it exactly the way

01:14:19.270 --> 01:14:21.630
I remember it. Yeah, but the owner also owned

01:14:21.630 --> 01:14:28.270
the Buffalo Bisons. Uh -huh. Yep. Yeah, so Buffalo

01:14:28.270 --> 01:14:33.170
has a good history with soccer. And they just

01:14:33.170 --> 01:14:35.550
built, they're building an all -purpose, soccer

01:14:35.550 --> 01:14:40.869
-purpose stadium for a USL team. The only problem

01:14:40.869 --> 01:14:42.850
is the location of where they put it is like

01:14:42.850 --> 01:14:46.149
right next to like a chemical plant. And so the

01:14:46.149 --> 01:14:50.130
soccer fields, the adult rec league and children's

01:14:50.130 --> 01:14:53.430
rec league soccer fields that are on that site,

01:14:53.529 --> 01:14:56.489
there's been reports of some breathing problems

01:14:56.489 --> 01:14:58.890
sometimes. Yeah, I've heard that there's, it's

01:14:58.890 --> 01:15:04.210
basically on a, it's on a, super fun like poisonous

01:15:04.210 --> 01:15:09.590
plant yeah yeah so yeah a lot of people that

01:15:09.590 --> 01:15:12.210
i know they're from the area were pretty bummed

01:15:12.210 --> 01:15:19.529
out by that yeah so which is a bummer because

01:15:19.529 --> 01:15:23.149
because there are other places around buffalo

01:15:23.149 --> 01:15:27.090
that well here's hoping it seems to be a somewhat

01:15:27.090 --> 01:15:31.739
smaller because i think at their usl Not the

01:15:31.739 --> 01:15:36.279
main one, not USL 2, so USL Championship, whatever

01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:38.539
the hell they're calling their middle division.

01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.239
So I think they're shooting for like a 5 ,000

01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:45.739
to 7 ,000 seat place. So, you know, hopefully

01:15:45.739 --> 01:15:48.579
they could show proof of concept and grow from

01:15:48.579 --> 01:15:52.840
there. Yeah, I did find an interesting fact here,

01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:55.020
though. Ralph Black, who's a Scottish -American

01:15:55.020 --> 01:15:58.899
retired soccer defender, these are the teams

01:15:58.899 --> 01:16:02.069
that he played for. Started at the Denver Avalanche,

01:16:02.189 --> 01:16:05.310
which was indoor. Then Baltimore Blast and Tacoma

01:16:05.310 --> 01:16:07.789
Stars. Then went and played outdoor for the San

01:16:07.789 --> 01:16:09.970
Jose Earthquakes and the Seattle Storm. Then

01:16:09.970 --> 01:16:12.729
indoor for the San Diego Sockers and the Tacoma

01:16:12.729 --> 01:16:15.109
Stars. Then outdoor for the Tampa Bay Rowdies.

01:16:15.210 --> 01:16:17.590
Then indoor for the Buffalo Blizzard, Anaheim

01:16:17.590 --> 01:16:19.829
Splash, Seattle Seadogs, Portland Pride, and

01:16:19.829 --> 01:16:22.329
Portland Pythons. And then he managed the Pythons

01:16:22.329 --> 01:16:26.649
for those years. That sounds like a precky level

01:16:26.649 --> 01:16:30.949
of... Yeah, you know, I mean, that's that's what

01:16:30.949 --> 01:16:34.409
it was. You got to remember the 80s, the 80s

01:16:34.409 --> 01:16:37.109
and 90s. It was, you know, journeymen who loved

01:16:37.109 --> 01:16:41.130
the game. And like, I can go travel this country

01:16:41.130 --> 01:16:46.350
and play soccer kind of, you know, almost like

01:16:46.350 --> 01:16:49.130
almost like being in a band. You know, you're

01:16:49.130 --> 01:16:52.449
maybe working a second part time job, kind of

01:16:52.449 --> 01:16:55.069
making it work, but living with a couple of guys

01:16:55.069 --> 01:16:58.710
on the team. And just getting a place real cheap

01:16:58.710 --> 01:17:01.109
together and just making it work. You're in your

01:17:01.109 --> 01:17:05.149
20s. You're going. And a lot of times the thing

01:17:05.149 --> 01:17:07.729
that gets them to retire is, oh, I got married

01:17:07.729 --> 01:17:10.409
and have a kid. Yeah. I mean, the coach for the

01:17:10.409 --> 01:17:11.770
Seadogs, I was just looking them up because I

01:17:11.770 --> 01:17:14.310
know my sister's friend, his dad coached for

01:17:14.310 --> 01:17:15.970
a little bit. But the first two years when they

01:17:15.970 --> 01:17:21.359
were really poor was. Fernando Clavijo, who played

01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:23.979
for the New York Apollos, the New York Arrows,

01:17:23.979 --> 01:17:26.119
the Golden Bay Earthquakes, the San Diego Soccers,

01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:28.039
the Los Angeles Lasers, and the St. Louis Storm,

01:17:28.220 --> 01:17:30.939
but went on to coach the St. Louis Storm, Seattle

01:17:30.939 --> 01:17:33.479
Seadogs, Florida Thundercats, Nigeria assistant.

01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.819
He was the U .S. futsal coach, MetroStars assistant,

01:17:37.060 --> 01:17:38.859
New England Revolution head coach, Haiti head

01:17:38.859 --> 01:17:41.180
coach, Rapids head coach, and Miami FC head coach.

01:17:42.020 --> 01:17:46.359
So early on in his career. uh coaching seattle

01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.340
sea dogs and went on to be pretty high level

01:17:49.340 --> 01:17:53.300
coach in the united states that's fun that's

01:17:53.300 --> 01:17:56.060
awesome i love the misl days i used to go down

01:17:56.060 --> 01:17:57.739
and watch tacoma stars down all the time at the

01:17:57.739 --> 01:18:01.840
tacoma dome yeah i'm a little disappointed tacoma

01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:09.319
stars um last season uh roma won a uh star wars

01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.470
night costume contest, and they were going to

01:18:12.470 --> 01:18:15.010
give us a suite for the next game, and they never

01:18:15.010 --> 01:18:17.989
followed up with me. Oh, gosh. And then I was

01:18:17.989 --> 01:18:20.529
just like, I should have just reached out and

01:18:20.529 --> 01:18:23.590
been like, hey, what's going on? And they just

01:18:23.590 --> 01:18:27.590
ghosted me. Maybe do it now, because it would

01:18:27.590 --> 01:18:31.489
be fun for her, I think. Yeah, I might just follow

01:18:31.489 --> 01:18:34.710
up at some point. At some point, I'm going to

01:18:34.710 --> 01:18:37.130
interact with someone in the front office there,

01:18:37.189 --> 01:18:39.720
and I'll bring it to their attention. i don't

01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:45.659
know it's just yeah anyways um so my memories

01:18:45.659 --> 01:18:51.020
uh are late 90s i mean in high school i used

01:18:51.020 --> 01:18:53.479
to go to matches uh i actually fully jersey from

01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:58.079
the 1998 us isla league team um i don't remember

01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:01.600
the 94 -95 championships i was in high school

01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:06.439
and they just weren't they weren't as relevant

01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:08.479
in seattle at that time because you got to remember

01:19:09.139 --> 01:19:11.800
The Mariners and the Huskies were so good that

01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:13.720
I think it was hard. And the Huskies just went

01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:17.500
on probation, but still were great in those years,

01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:20.640
Husky football. And the Mariners, 94, they were

01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:22.159
in first place for a long time. And then there

01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:24.279
was the lockout and the 95, of course, the first

01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:28.590
time ever making the playoffs. I think the Seahawks

01:19:28.590 --> 01:19:31.149
might've made the playoffs one of those years.

01:19:31.329 --> 01:19:34.369
I'd have to think about that again, but, um,

01:19:34.609 --> 01:19:36.869
they were, those were fun teams at least the,

01:19:36.890 --> 01:19:41.310
with amazing defenses. Yeah. So, um, yeah, Seahawks

01:19:41.310 --> 01:19:43.109
were eight and eight and 95 with Dennis Erickson

01:19:43.109 --> 01:19:49.189
as coach. Uh, Ooh, but, uh, yeah, no, I mean,

01:19:49.189 --> 01:19:54.189
it, it was a, a fun team. They drafted Joey Galloway,

01:19:54.229 --> 01:19:57.500
Christian for you that year. And, uh, They had

01:19:57.500 --> 01:20:02.600
just Rick Meyer, John Freeze, and Stan Gelbach

01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.539
at quarterback. Did you say Stan Gelbach? Yeah,

01:20:06.539 --> 01:20:10.020
Stan Gelbach, yeah. Oh, my God. I haven't thought

01:20:10.020 --> 01:20:13.060
about him in a long time. But they had Sam Adams,

01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:15.880
Cortez Kennedy, Michael McCrary, Joe Nash, Michael

01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:18.500
Sinclair as their defensive line, which is pretty

01:20:18.500 --> 01:20:23.020
incredible. And then some amazing Seahawks linebackers

01:20:23.020 --> 01:20:26.699
like Terry Wooden, defensive backs. like Carlton

01:20:26.699 --> 01:20:28.739
Gray and Eugene Robinson. I mean, it was just

01:20:28.739 --> 01:20:30.859
a fun team. Todd Peterson was our kicker. Rick

01:20:30.859 --> 01:20:33.399
Tootin was our punter. I think they had Carl

01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:36.119
Esther Crumpler. Rootin Tootin. He was a former

01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:39.680
Bills punter. Oh, yeah. Rootin Tootin. I think

01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:42.859
he started with the Bills. That seems right.

01:20:42.979 --> 01:20:45.479
I know he was there. Yeah, I just found him.

01:20:45.659 --> 01:20:48.579
He played for the Bills, I guess, his second

01:20:48.579 --> 01:20:52.210
year in the league. He was on the preseason roster

01:20:52.210 --> 01:20:54.090
of the Chargers and Redskins and then Eagles,

01:20:54.189 --> 01:20:56.989
Bills, Packers, and then finally locked in with

01:20:56.989 --> 01:21:00.569
the Seahawks in 91. Finished with the Rams. Good

01:21:00.569 --> 01:21:04.810
old Rootin' Tootin'. Rick Tootin'. But yeah,

01:21:04.989 --> 01:21:08.729
I mean, we all were aware of the Sounders, but

01:21:08.729 --> 01:21:12.130
it, oh, Rick Tootin' unexpectedly died at the

01:21:12.130 --> 01:21:14.470
age of 52 while on vacation in Costa Rica in

01:21:14.470 --> 01:21:21.199
2017. Damn. Oh, man. That's a bummer. uh belated

01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:25.460
death watch rootin tootin oh he was no he was

01:21:25.460 --> 01:21:27.939
part of the 83 miami hurricanes national champion

01:21:27.939 --> 01:21:31.199
team the st louis rams super bowl 34 champions

01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:34.319
and he was on the seahawks 35 year anniversary

01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:38.060
team uh that's as all -time punter i think he's

01:21:38.060 --> 01:21:41.479
since been surpassed some member berries for

01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:45.880
sure yeah um but yeah so i don't late 90s just

01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:49.350
going to matches uh fun times at Memorial Stadium.

01:21:49.550 --> 01:21:53.489
That's mainly, I have more fond memories of MISL

01:21:53.489 --> 01:21:55.409
days because I was younger, right? When I was

01:21:55.409 --> 01:21:59.510
a kid. Yeah. In 98, I was like a junior in high

01:21:59.510 --> 01:22:03.510
school, senior in high school. So that ball right

01:22:03.510 --> 01:22:08.090
there that I'm pointing to, I found that at a

01:22:08.090 --> 01:22:11.649
Goodwill for a dollar. Nice. And that is a team

01:22:11.649 --> 01:22:19.079
signed USL era Sounders ball. wow that yeah i

01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:22.060
just kind of was was looking around for something

01:22:22.060 --> 01:22:25.720
for roma and it was underneath one of those wire

01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:28.239
speed racks it was on the ground it like rolled

01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:30.800
underneath i'm like what's that i grab it i'm

01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:34.220
like are you kidding me just like perfect kismet

01:22:34.220 --> 01:22:38.239
for me to even see it down there to grab it and

01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:41.819
then to see what it was i was like oh this is

01:22:41.819 --> 01:22:47.220
cool yeah totally um It's fun to look at the

01:22:47.220 --> 01:22:50.300
names of the people on that team. You know, 95,

01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:53.520
Peter Hattrop and Chance Fry were the big stars.

01:22:53.699 --> 01:22:56.899
They're both still around. That was one of Marcus's

01:22:56.899 --> 01:22:59.939
first seasons, wasn't it? Yeah. Chance Fry was

01:22:59.939 --> 01:23:04.659
my, I have his jersey from one of those years.

01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:07.539
So actually it probably fits again. I should

01:23:07.539 --> 01:23:10.859
try that. I've lost so much weight. 96, Jason

01:23:10.859 --> 01:23:14.439
Farrell. Was the top scorer. Former Ballard FC

01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:18.199
head coach. Now Seattle U head coach. Mark Baina.

01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.380
I don't remember Greg Howe was in 2000, but Leighton

01:23:21.380 --> 01:23:24.880
O 'Brien, Brian Chang. Whatever happened to Welton

01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:28.979
Mello? Cam Weaver, Sebastian Latu. Jesus. I mean,

01:23:29.020 --> 01:23:31.960
there's some fun names that came through those

01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:36.659
Sounders. Those ended the 2000s, but those Sounders

01:23:36.659 --> 01:23:38.340
teams. Whatever happened to this Welton guy?

01:23:38.500 --> 01:23:41.520
He finished his career in Seattle. He played

01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:48.140
as a youth at Fluminense and Flamingo, and then

01:23:48.140 --> 01:23:50.060
the New England Revolution, the LA Galaxy, Miami

01:23:50.060 --> 01:23:53.359
Fusion, and then eventually started slowing down

01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:58.920
a bit. But that's fun. That's awesome. Good memories.

01:23:59.659 --> 01:24:01.420
Let's see. Do we have any other stuff? What do

01:24:01.420 --> 01:24:03.020
the Sounders have to do differently to start

01:24:03.020 --> 01:24:05.239
being more effective on set pieces? What do you

01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:06.899
think the reason is for our struggles this season

01:24:06.899 --> 01:24:13.750
compared to last season? Ask Sal Diaz. That's

01:24:13.750 --> 01:24:28.529
a good question. I think that set pieces have

01:24:28.529 --> 01:24:32.189
been a little tricky for us. I think Andy Rose

01:24:32.189 --> 01:24:34.649
is the one who's managing a lot of the set piece

01:24:34.649 --> 01:24:40.289
stuff. My question would be, I'm assuming...

01:24:41.270 --> 01:24:44.449
He's talking about defensively? Because I don't

01:24:44.449 --> 01:24:46.609
feel like last season we were particularly effective

01:24:46.609 --> 01:24:52.270
on set pieces offensively either. But defensively,

01:24:52.270 --> 01:24:58.069
it feels like we just... I don't know. I often

01:24:58.069 --> 01:25:00.909
wonder with set pieces how much of it is just

01:25:00.909 --> 01:25:05.869
truly chance and how much of it is you can coach

01:25:05.869 --> 01:25:10.989
it up and change that up. So when you're looking

01:25:10.989 --> 01:25:14.569
at that, I think that the Sounders historically

01:25:14.569 --> 01:25:17.149
have never been super dominant in set pieces.

01:25:17.649 --> 01:25:22.810
I know back in the day, there were seasons where

01:25:22.810 --> 01:25:25.050
Chad Marshall would be the golden boot leader

01:25:25.050 --> 01:25:28.189
for the team for the first quarter of the season

01:25:28.189 --> 01:25:30.569
because you get like four or five goals in the

01:25:30.569 --> 01:25:38.699
beginning of the season on set pieces. It does

01:25:38.699 --> 01:25:42.239
give me some serious wandering eye when I look

01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:47.439
at some other teams and see them doing great

01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:50.000
stuff, but I just can't tell what they're doing

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.579
differently than what we're doing. It's just

01:25:53.579 --> 01:25:56.779
the eye test. I don't have that institutional

01:25:56.779 --> 01:26:01.140
knowledge of, oh, he's doing this, or like a

01:26:01.140 --> 01:26:04.699
basketball pick play or something like that.

01:26:04.819 --> 01:26:07.920
I know the... one of the fun things that I love

01:26:07.920 --> 01:26:11.800
doing in my seats with ECS is on corner kicks.

01:26:11.939 --> 01:26:15.739
I love not just watching the ball as it's being

01:26:15.739 --> 01:26:22.300
kicked in on corner kicks. I love watching the

01:26:22.300 --> 01:26:25.300
actual battles in front of the net on those corner

01:26:25.300 --> 01:26:29.600
kicks. But, yeah, so I know it's a little bit

01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:33.100
of a long -winded answer. No, it's good. But

01:26:33.100 --> 01:26:36.079
what about you, Cameron? What do you think on

01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:43.600
that? It feels like a couple things. In the past,

01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:45.739
we used to be able to get it over the heads of

01:26:45.739 --> 01:26:47.239
the defenders, and we haven't been doing that

01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:51.319
as well. And in the past, we had big defenders

01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:54.079
who could head the ball, and not having Jordan

01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:56.220
has prevented that because he did it at times.

01:26:57.860 --> 01:27:00.140
surprisingly Reagan hasn't stepped up and we

01:27:00.140 --> 01:27:01.659
need Chad Marshall to come in and help train

01:27:01.659 --> 01:27:03.739
that. That's where I think he sits. Well, it's

01:27:03.739 --> 01:27:05.560
like we were just talking about a second ago

01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:07.600
with Chad Marshall being, you know, golden boot

01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.600
leader at the beginning of seasons, you know,

01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:13.119
from his set piece prowess. I mean, I think that's

01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:19.220
it. So yeah, I, it's frustrating, but you know,

01:27:19.260 --> 01:27:22.380
it's something we usually get a lot of in the

01:27:22.380 --> 01:27:28.300
past, a lot of corners and stuff, but I don't

01:27:28.300 --> 01:27:29.579
know how you fix it. That's something that I

01:27:29.579 --> 01:27:31.739
know Brian thinks a lot about. And I think he

01:27:31.739 --> 01:27:33.340
thinks especially a lot about the other side

01:27:33.340 --> 01:27:36.159
of that, giving up goals on set pieces rather

01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:40.300
than scoring goals. Yeah. Because it's these

01:27:40.300 --> 01:27:42.359
little errors that we tend to make as a team,

01:27:42.420 --> 01:27:46.159
individual errors that cause those goals where

01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:48.579
everyone else does what they need to do. And

01:27:48.579 --> 01:27:50.260
so you just need everyone to do it right. So

01:27:50.260 --> 01:27:52.539
I think they probably focus more on that, but

01:27:52.539 --> 01:27:56.739
I'm sure they do both at practice. I think the

01:27:56.739 --> 01:27:58.819
only other question, oh, we had one from Dan

01:27:58.819 --> 01:28:01.859
come in. When Yamar is back, considering Nuhu

01:28:01.859 --> 01:28:04.359
struggles, do you see Reagan, Yamar, and Alex

01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:10.619
as the back three? Well, one of that's going

01:28:10.619 --> 01:28:13.100
to presume that we're going to that formation.

01:28:13.699 --> 01:28:16.119
Yeah, I don't, I think, I mean, I want to see

01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:20.420
KKR on the field, you know, every time we can.

01:28:20.699 --> 01:28:24.779
I think he's proven why he's dangerous. uh he

01:28:24.779 --> 01:28:27.260
missed was it his most recent game he missed

01:28:27.260 --> 01:28:28.979
because of the red card now i get them all confused

01:28:28.979 --> 01:28:31.659
he got the red card the game before last yeah

01:28:31.659 --> 01:28:33.680
because we're now four games straight with the

01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:38.159
red card let's stop that yeah well i was even

01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:40.840
saying in the in the in the chat like okay well

01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:43.840
can we can we please go again like before the

01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:45.699
red card happened like can we please go games

01:28:45.699 --> 01:28:48.640
without a red card and i jinxed it because i'm

01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:55.640
a jackass nah i i'm just yeah i i think I mean,

01:28:55.659 --> 01:28:57.600
they're going to deal with it internally. That's

01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:07.220
what he said. By the way, so with Kalani, he's

01:29:07.220 --> 01:29:13.140
having himself two goals, two assists in 13 matches.

01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:18.359
815 minutes. You're not getting that normally

01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:21.439
out of... out of the back position, the right

01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:25.079
back, left back positions. At least the Sounders

01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:26.500
haven't been getting that kind of production.

01:29:26.739 --> 01:29:29.920
Not for a long time. Yeah, and so big shout -out

01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:33.340
to him just kind of giving the club things to

01:29:33.340 --> 01:29:38.739
look at. I mean, what I love from him is multiple

01:29:38.739 --> 01:29:44.739
times we're seeing him put the ball on his shoulders

01:29:44.739 --> 01:29:48.180
and just... Say, fuck it. I'm going for it. That's

01:29:48.180 --> 01:29:51.140
how he scored his first goal against LAFC. That's

01:29:51.140 --> 01:29:56.880
how he scored an Open Cup. That's last year.

01:29:58.699 --> 01:30:02.699
That's how he's making that cut to the inside

01:30:02.699 --> 01:30:07.680
two weeks ago. Yeah, that's tantalizing. That's

01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:10.079
going to make the coaching staff go, hell yeah.

01:30:12.619 --> 01:30:18.869
It's making it... It's harder to keep him off

01:30:18.869 --> 01:30:21.869
the field, but Alex Roldan's a really good player.

01:30:22.729 --> 01:30:25.590
I really like what Alex brings. I think he's

01:30:25.590 --> 01:30:27.930
doing great at center back, and I also think

01:30:27.930 --> 01:30:30.569
we're not going to see Yamar coming back as a

01:30:30.569 --> 01:30:33.689
full -time starter. I mean, I think he was already

01:30:33.689 --> 01:30:37.930
aging before these two injuries, and I'm hopeful

01:30:37.930 --> 01:30:40.710
he can. I think he's going to be a start two

01:30:40.710 --> 01:30:42.569
out of every three games, so I think there leaves

01:30:42.569 --> 01:30:45.340
a lot of room. It's like in three -game weeks,

01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:49.239
you're saying? Yeah. No, I mean in general. But

01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:50.699
in a three -game week, I think we might only

01:30:50.699 --> 01:30:53.479
see him one time. So I could see Alex getting

01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.739
some center back starts there alongside Reagan,

01:30:56.979 --> 01:30:59.699
especially with Stu Hawkins, as far as I know,

01:30:59.739 --> 01:31:03.819
still hurt. Thankfully, we have a lot of depth

01:31:03.819 --> 01:31:06.939
at center back because we have a lot of injuries

01:31:06.939 --> 01:31:10.439
there right now. Yeah. But, I mean, I think Alex

01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:14.380
has moved himself ahead of Stu. the depth chart

01:31:14.380 --> 01:31:16.979
for center back at this point. And it's fun to

01:31:16.979 --> 01:31:19.760
see both of KKR and Alex on the field together.

01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:23.579
Especially, I mean, I love Alex and he does not

01:31:23.579 --> 01:31:27.140
play on the right like he used to in terms of

01:31:27.140 --> 01:31:31.380
getting assists and stuff like that. So I think

01:31:31.380 --> 01:31:33.899
if we're going to have a player on the left who

01:31:33.899 --> 01:31:37.079
is not able to move forward offensively in a

01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:41.479
meaningful way to score goals and... the the

01:31:41.479 --> 01:31:43.420
team has made clear they prefer him to stay back

01:31:43.420 --> 01:31:45.819
uh we need someone on the right who can push

01:31:45.819 --> 01:31:48.479
forward in that way and and kkr can do it better

01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:55.199
than anyone on the team right now yeah um i do

01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:57.739
want to just caution and we do this all the time

01:31:57.739 --> 01:32:00.739
it's what we do is is we always get super excited

01:32:00.739 --> 01:32:03.600
about the new shiny shiny and and kind of look

01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:09.090
at them in a um overly optimistic lens instead

01:32:09.090 --> 01:32:11.810
of looking at the reality because he's definitely

01:32:11.810 --> 01:32:17.449
a liability defensively at times um and so his

01:32:17.449 --> 01:32:22.449
offensive ceiling is really high compared to

01:32:22.449 --> 01:32:27.750
say alex but his floor is much lower defensively

01:32:27.750 --> 01:32:31.550
than alex like i don't see and it's just it's

01:32:31.550 --> 01:32:34.000
just a trade -off yeah but i also think He's

01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.560
no more of a liability at right back than knew

01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:39.020
who is at left back when knew who goes forward.

01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:42.899
That's the caveat. And he's going forward, right?

01:32:42.979 --> 01:32:45.699
I think they're both liabilities when they go

01:32:45.699 --> 01:32:49.680
forward because they're not DeAndre Yedlin. KKR

01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:52.500
is fast. But DeAndre Yedlin, you could see, could

01:32:52.500 --> 01:32:55.100
go all the way forward. I mean, he played on

01:32:55.100 --> 01:32:59.760
the national team. He's a level of a different

01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:03.640
player. I hope one day he comes home for the

01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:07.000
end of his career, but we'll see. I think he's

01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:13.439
in Cincinnati now. From Miami to Cincinnati,

01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:16.560
yes, I think he's still in Cincinnati. I mean,

01:33:16.579 --> 01:33:20.579
he's 22 matches, four assists, four yellow cards

01:33:20.579 --> 01:33:22.479
for Cincinnati this year. That's pretty good.

01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:29.899
Love those numbers. Yeah. Did you end up going

01:33:29.899 --> 01:33:32.880
to the Saturday's football pop -up shop this

01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:38.020
week? I did not. I was supposed to – I marked

01:33:38.020 --> 01:33:40.399
– I followed them on Instagram so I'd learn more

01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:42.680
about it. It was fun. It was cool. And then I

01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:46.579
totally forgot about it because it didn't pop

01:33:46.579 --> 01:33:50.260
up again. I was really weirded out though because

01:33:50.260 --> 01:33:53.359
when they showed the ad, they showed San Jose,

01:33:53.579 --> 01:33:56.489
Japantown. uh in the ad like people lining up

01:33:56.489 --> 01:33:59.550
and it had like kogura gifts which is my friend's

01:33:59.550 --> 01:34:01.630
uncle well i i know i know japan down in san

01:34:01.630 --> 01:34:03.989
jose i used to go karaoke bar hopping there oh

01:34:03.989 --> 01:34:07.930
sure bamboo seven bamboo seven bamboo i i have

01:34:07.930 --> 01:34:10.649
video of me at seven bamboo that's the best place

01:34:10.649 --> 01:34:14.590
yeah yeah i used to host it a lot but that's

01:34:14.590 --> 01:34:17.010
awesome but yeah uh you know that that was his

01:34:17.010 --> 01:34:20.250
uncle's store and then his dad who sadly uh passed

01:34:20.250 --> 01:34:24.279
away uh last month but they had uh uh nikaku

01:34:24.279 --> 01:34:27.279
japanese arts and imports um and he used to run

01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:30.000
the little video store and art bookstore down

01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:33.600
below so uh yeah shout out to tyler uh it was

01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.079
cool to see his family's buildings there in in

01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:38.060
the ad for them coming to seattle because they

01:34:38.060 --> 01:34:40.939
must have been in san jose recently yeah so so

01:34:40.939 --> 01:34:43.220
the pop -up was really fun it was at um the friend

01:34:43.220 --> 01:34:46.159
museum which is a cool little shop down in pioneer

01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:48.319
square i'm so bummed i missed it i was really

01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:51.180
excited and then i just never saw it again it

01:34:51.180 --> 01:34:55.479
just it just was perfect timing uh didn't i didn't

01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:57.399
i text you a heads up that i was heading over

01:34:57.399 --> 01:35:00.079
i don't think so i thought i thought i shot you

01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:01.680
did and you're like oh i can't make it maybe

01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:04.199
i i don't know and maybe anyways you can read

01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:08.539
it that i was just um but but what was really

01:35:08.539 --> 01:35:13.180
cool about it is it was definitely a um it was

01:35:13.180 --> 01:35:16.699
fun to just randomly browse through and see jerseys

01:35:16.699 --> 01:35:19.359
from all over the world you know seeing some

01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:22.420
you know, some, just some fun, fun kit design,

01:35:22.539 --> 01:35:26.020
some old kits. Um, matter of fact, it inspired

01:35:26.020 --> 01:35:28.039
me to start busting out some of my old kits.

01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:31.319
Like earlier today I was wearing my, my AS Roma

01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:37.119
Francesco Totti Jersey. Um, but, but yeah, just,

01:35:37.300 --> 01:35:41.840
uh, just, uh, really cool, cool stuff. Uh, one

01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:49.520
of our listeners, uh, Bryson ran into, um, paul

01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:53.880
areola there and when he when he went down there

01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:57.239
and areola convinced him to buy a hat that he

01:35:57.239 --> 01:36:02.159
was on the fence about buying so so so yeah so

01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:06.079
some good stuff there so tell me um yeah you

01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:08.640
have an as roma jersey that was founded during

01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:11.600
the rise of fascism in italy in 1927 with its

01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:14.340
founder italo foshi being a member of the national

01:36:14.340 --> 01:36:19.449
fascist party Why on earth would you root for

01:36:19.449 --> 01:36:27.270
that team? Well, my wife lived in Rome, and we

01:36:27.270 --> 01:36:29.850
went there on our one -year anniversary, and

01:36:29.850 --> 01:36:32.350
so we wanted to take in an AS Roma game, which

01:36:32.350 --> 01:36:35.930
she had done when she was living out there. Actually,

01:36:35.930 --> 01:36:38.189
she lived in Rome on two separate occasions,

01:36:38.250 --> 01:36:40.270
lived in Italy on two separate occasions. Yeah,

01:36:40.310 --> 01:36:43.029
they aren't associated with it anymore. I know.

01:36:43.149 --> 01:36:46.729
Some of their ultras. But some of the other teams

01:36:46.729 --> 01:36:51.029
in Italy, you know. They actually have one of

01:36:51.029 --> 01:36:52.750
the more diverse fan bases, which makes sense

01:36:52.750 --> 01:36:55.869
being in Rome, right? But what was really fun

01:36:55.869 --> 01:37:04.050
was at that time, this is 2017, so it was Totti's

01:37:04.050 --> 01:37:07.010
last year, and he's known as the king of Rome.

01:37:07.069 --> 01:37:10.149
He was a youth player, spent his whole career

01:37:10.149 --> 01:37:15.199
there. It was the last full 90 that he ever went

01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.260
to. We didn't know it at the time, but the game

01:37:17.260 --> 01:37:21.640
we went to was his final full 90. Also playing

01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:26.640
in that game for Roma was a young Mo Salah. So

01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:31.760
got to see him. It was like a 5 -0 beatdown of

01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:35.739
Atalanta. How long ago was this? 2017. Okay,

01:37:35.779 --> 01:37:41.500
so before Rainieri was their manager. Who was

01:37:41.500 --> 01:37:51.319
their manager? Wow, I should know this. Let's

01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:54.079
see. Manager, manager, manager for that season

01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:59.060
was Spalletti. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, but

01:37:59.060 --> 01:38:05.020
Eden Dzeko was their leading goal scorer. But

01:38:05.020 --> 01:38:13.579
they... Yeah, they had Tadi and Mo Salah, Al

01:38:13.579 --> 01:38:18.739
Sharway. Yeah, just good stuff. It was just really

01:38:18.739 --> 01:38:20.579
cool. You know what's interesting is apparently

01:38:20.579 --> 01:38:22.319
when they formed, because they formed with three

01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:24.479
clubs coming together, they wanted Lazio to join,

01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:27.920
and they were like, no. Like another historic

01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:30.319
club now, so how different it would have been

01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:35.479
if they had. They currently sit at 10th in the

01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:40.890
– fifa their uefa club coefficient rankings yeah

01:38:40.890 --> 01:38:44.810
they're one of those teams uh almost like the

01:38:44.810 --> 01:38:49.250
sounders where they're constantly in the running

01:38:49.250 --> 01:38:54.689
but not always at the very very top yeah um they

01:38:54.689 --> 01:39:00.170
did and they i i do i was joking about the fascism

01:39:00.170 --> 01:39:03.789
but they did they did have um one of their uh

01:39:03.789 --> 01:39:08.199
ultras groups did put up lyrics from a fascist

01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:13.560
group uh linked to the far right of a 2007 song

01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:16.800
this past season and a 401 and the team got fined

01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:20.020
for it so uh which sucks that you know you're

01:39:20.020 --> 01:39:22.039
finding the team in that situation rather than

01:39:22.039 --> 01:39:25.880
punishing those fans but uh what is interesting

01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:28.359
about it is the lyrics themselves i'll stay on

01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:30.479
this road as long as my legs can hold me it's

01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:32.079
with this heart and this face that i've grown

01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:36.670
up don't seem seem of themselves like fine and

01:39:36.670 --> 01:39:39.310
that's probably why they chose them because they

01:39:39.310 --> 01:39:42.750
uh happen to come from this band is the real

01:39:42.750 --> 01:39:46.289
reason they chose them so uh but that's a that's

01:39:46.289 --> 01:39:48.609
a that's not an uncommon problem in italian football

01:39:48.609 --> 01:39:51.170
that's that is a major problem there uh in a

01:39:51.170 --> 01:39:55.029
country that literally started fascism well i

01:39:55.029 --> 01:39:57.130
mean unfortunately i mean well it always makes

01:39:57.130 --> 01:40:00.369
me laugh When people say keep politics out of

01:40:00.369 --> 01:40:02.310
sports, like, especially when talking about soccer,

01:40:02.430 --> 01:40:05.369
like, okay, wait, it's going to stop right there.

01:40:06.590 --> 01:40:10.050
Soccer is politics. It's, it's, it's the currency

01:40:10.050 --> 01:40:15.630
for the masses in a lot of ways. Just like who's

01:40:15.630 --> 01:40:18.489
president in the United States changes how fast

01:40:18.489 --> 01:40:20.449
we're going to be able to. And if we're going

01:40:20.449 --> 01:40:22.210
to be able to get visas for players, we're trying

01:40:22.210 --> 01:40:25.449
to sign. Yeah. But I mean, we're also talking

01:40:25.449 --> 01:40:30.359
about just, just straight up. uh you know soccer

01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:36.140
firms and and supporter groups and ultras um

01:40:36.140 --> 01:40:41.079
literally shape policy in those cities and districts

01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:47.119
yeah oh there's a uh fantastic book uh that came

01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:51.979
out i want to is it 12 13 i should know the name

01:40:51.979 --> 01:40:54.279
of this book um i haven't read it yet but i've

01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:57.600
seen a bunch of interviews with the author uh

01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:00.319
and i uh i'll have to figure out what it was

01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:02.819
but there's one about how like in some of these

01:41:02.819 --> 01:41:06.359
eastern european countries when they uh like

01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:09.340
in ukraine for example or uh when they overthrew

01:41:09.340 --> 01:41:11.340
the government way back when and made it into

01:41:11.340 --> 01:41:15.720
the current government uh they were there were

01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:19.000
like nationalist ultras who were out there and

01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:20.680
they'd run it like military campaigns because

01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:22.579
they'd been trained that way and that that happens

01:41:22.579 --> 01:41:25.510
throughout your eastern europe Yeah, and in Russia

01:41:25.510 --> 01:41:28.510
too, we've seen it. Well, you'd see some problematic

01:41:28.510 --> 01:41:33.850
issues with some Ultras and really good... I

01:41:33.850 --> 01:41:36.050
went down a really good rabbit hole about the...

01:41:36.050 --> 01:41:45.550
Oh, what was it? The 2021... The 2021 Copa Libertadores

01:41:45.550 --> 01:41:49.930
between Boca and River Plate that got postponed

01:41:49.930 --> 01:41:54.119
and then... Eventually they ended up having it

01:41:54.119 --> 01:42:01.319
in Spain or Portugal because just, yeah. It's

01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:06.340
just really cool stuff. 1312 Among the Ultras,

01:42:06.380 --> 01:42:08.279
A Journey with the World's Most Extreme Fans

01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.840
by James Montague. Okay. Maybe we should link

01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:15.739
that or post that into the Discord. I'd be very

01:42:15.739 --> 01:42:19.500
curious for the episode notes. Would be very

01:42:19.500 --> 01:42:22.710
interested to learn more about that. yeah i will

01:42:22.710 --> 01:42:24.710
do that for sure i i actually i can give you

01:42:24.710 --> 01:42:26.810
a copy i'll bring one to the game tomorrow i

01:42:26.810 --> 01:42:29.350
assume you'll be there i will i will yeah i have

01:42:29.350 --> 01:42:31.710
two copies i accidentally ordered two when i

01:42:31.710 --> 01:42:34.710
got them so i might be i might be looking for

01:42:34.710 --> 01:42:36.810
a third ticket because i think bernie may end

01:42:36.810 --> 01:42:40.189
up going so i might have to try and find out

01:42:40.189 --> 01:42:42.029
i had to buy two extra because i had to get one

01:42:42.029 --> 01:42:45.989
for uh your cousin or your nephew right but i

01:42:45.989 --> 01:42:49.390
will say uh It helped that I totally forgot that

01:42:49.390 --> 01:42:51.170
I had returned tickets, and so I got to use my

01:42:51.170 --> 01:42:54.109
return credit to buy new tickets without having

01:42:54.109 --> 01:42:56.789
to spend any money. So that was a benefit that

01:42:56.789 --> 01:42:59.090
we get from the Sounders. It's super fun. Very

01:42:59.090 --> 01:43:00.909
much so. Speaking of the Sounders and speaking

01:43:00.909 --> 01:43:02.670
of benefits, let's talk about tomorrow's game.

01:43:02.850 --> 01:43:06.649
Yeah. Almost later today's game in the very near

01:43:06.649 --> 01:43:09.609
future, where we're closing it on midnight, which

01:43:09.609 --> 01:43:13.250
sounds about par for the course for us. Play

01:43:13.250 --> 01:43:18.659
in Colorado. Colorado is a... in Major League

01:43:18.659 --> 01:43:24.060
Soccer. They come from Colorado. Yeah. Not just

01:43:24.060 --> 01:43:29.920
a clever name. No, but Colorado has been interesting

01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:32.939
this year. They are coming off a big victory,

01:43:33.159 --> 01:43:36.359
3 -0 against Vancouver, who are free -falling.

01:43:36.579 --> 01:43:42.560
Thank you. But it's interesting. You get a 3

01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:44.779
-0 victory against Vancouver. You're feeling

01:43:44.779 --> 01:43:47.489
good. Your previous game before that, you lost

01:43:47.489 --> 01:43:50.470
3 -0 to LAFC. Then you lost the sport in Kansas

01:43:50.470 --> 01:43:56.109
City, 2 -1. So they're kind of hit and miss.

01:43:57.729 --> 01:44:10.789
Of course, Colorado is where we sent... Oh, my

01:44:10.789 --> 01:44:16.300
God. Danny? No. Well, we sent Danny to loan,

01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.739
but... Oh, Atencio. Atencio, thank you. Yeah,

01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:22.600
we sent Danny to loan a couple years ago, but

01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:25.420
Atencio's been there. He's been playing a good

01:44:25.420 --> 01:44:28.020
amount, has not been starting every game, but

01:44:28.020 --> 01:44:32.000
he's been getting a good minutes. Unfortunately

01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:35.119
for Colorado, some of the guys they brought back

01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:38.539
from Europe have not looked as good since they've

01:44:38.539 --> 01:44:40.939
come back, like Reggie Cannon, who I kind of

01:44:40.939 --> 01:44:44.739
have a... hate relationship with which is too

01:44:44.739 --> 01:44:47.340
bad that new who got the red card because reggie

01:44:47.340 --> 01:44:52.840
cannon hates new who yeah yeah absolutely hates

01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:55.720
new who so it's always fun watching them battle

01:44:55.720 --> 01:44:59.699
um because he's on the right there on the left

01:44:59.699 --> 01:45:02.960
so so oftentimes it'd be some really interesting

01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:06.819
stuff i always look forward to that so unfortunately

01:45:06.819 --> 01:45:10.510
we will not see that tomorrow um Jordy Mihaljevic

01:45:10.510 --> 01:45:14.170
is kind of their leading scorer. Consistently

01:45:14.170 --> 01:45:18.470
their best player. Yeah. They've got Rafael Navarro

01:45:18.470 --> 01:45:25.250
from Brazil, striker, who's got himself eight

01:45:25.250 --> 01:45:29.710
goals this season in 20 matches. So he's getting

01:45:29.710 --> 01:45:34.449
some stuff there. And they still have Zach Steffen

01:45:34.449 --> 01:45:40.840
in goal. They brought him back. Overall, don't

01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:43.300
know what to expect from this team. This is a

01:45:43.300 --> 01:45:47.260
team that is kind of hovering right around the

01:45:47.260 --> 01:45:52.979
7 -8 -9 slot. They're currently in seventh, but

01:45:52.979 --> 01:45:56.060
they've also got 23 games played, so they're

01:45:56.060 --> 01:45:58.060
leading the Western Conference in games played.

01:45:58.220 --> 01:46:03.359
Everyone else has less games than Colorado Rapids.

01:46:04.420 --> 01:46:07.840
So we have two games in hand and four points

01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:11.359
on them. Yeah. So just for context, I mean, they've

01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:13.359
been playing better, but they, they were having

01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:17.619
some rough, rough games in the past. So it'll

01:46:17.619 --> 01:46:20.159
be interesting to see how it goes. I wonder how

01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:22.739
much the weather is going to play into this.

01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:24.420
Now, if you're going to the game, you're hearing

01:46:24.420 --> 01:46:28.380
this the day of please, please, please drink

01:46:28.380 --> 01:46:32.970
a lot of water, bring sunscreen at kickoff. Oh,

01:46:32.970 --> 01:46:37.210
God. It's going to be 87 degrees. I am just seeing

01:46:37.210 --> 01:46:41.390
that now. So if you like, I have to be down there

01:46:41.390 --> 01:46:47.989
quite early and it's going to be 92 degrees when

01:46:47.989 --> 01:46:51.350
I get down there. So it is going to be a miserable

01:46:51.350 --> 01:46:56.170
day. Get lots of water, you know, get shade,

01:46:56.470 --> 01:47:01.460
bring hats, wear sunscreen. it could very well

01:47:01.460 --> 01:47:03.340
affect the play on the field too. Because if

01:47:03.340 --> 01:47:07.380
it's that hot, if it's 87 degrees outside, it's

01:47:07.380 --> 01:47:11.640
going to be 97 on the field at least. It gets

01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:13.720
hot down there. I don't know. I remember I shot

01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:19.960
a game as a photographer versus Royal Salt Lake

01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:21.720
one time, and you could see the heat coming off

01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:24.500
the turf. Like all of the pictures were a little

01:47:24.500 --> 01:47:28.739
bit grainy because of the heat waves. Yeah. So

01:47:28.739 --> 01:47:33.640
yeah, stay. Stay warm. I mean, cool. Because

01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:36.640
it's going to be, it's going to suck. Not looking

01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:39.880
forward to that. At least the air quality will

01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:42.399
be good tomorrow because the next day they're

01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:45.600
saying the fires start moving in and we're going

01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:49.380
to get some smoke. So yeah, it's going to be

01:47:49.380 --> 01:47:55.079
a rough week. So what do you expect to see tomorrow?

01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:57.920
I mean, I think this is a game the Sounders should

01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:00.699
win. I think we're going to see at least 45,

01:48:00.899 --> 01:48:05.739
maybe 60 out of Jordan and hopefully some goals.

01:48:07.220 --> 01:48:10.899
How much rotation do you expect to see from our

01:48:10.899 --> 01:48:14.479
offensive parts of our starting 11? I would hope

01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:19.840
that we would see Kent on the right and De La

01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:23.520
Vega on the left just to give them some minutes

01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:26.729
in a midweek game and then maybe go back. depending

01:48:26.729 --> 01:48:29.789
on how players play, on the weekend against San

01:48:29.789 --> 01:48:32.029
Jose in the big Heritage Cup match that'll determine

01:48:32.029 --> 01:48:36.270
who gets the trophy. So obviously a much bigger

01:48:36.270 --> 01:48:39.590
game than this one, but both are big games because

01:48:39.590 --> 01:48:41.310
they're right there in the standings with us,

01:48:41.390 --> 01:48:42.869
Colorado. I mean, I know you said we're four

01:48:42.869 --> 01:48:45.090
points clear with two games in hand, but you

01:48:45.090 --> 01:48:47.609
lose a match and they were one point clear. Well,

01:48:47.630 --> 01:48:49.510
it's a six -point game regardless, whether or

01:48:49.510 --> 01:48:53.600
not, yeah. Yeah, so it gives us a huge chance

01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:56.079
to jump up, especially when Vancouver has been

01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:57.819
failing, because ultimately, do I think we're

01:48:57.819 --> 01:49:00.180
going to catch San Diego? No, but I think if

01:49:00.180 --> 01:49:01.819
we can get that two spot, we're set throughout

01:49:01.819 --> 01:49:04.579
the playoffs and can beat San Diego in the playoffs.

01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:10.399
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, with that, he ended up being

01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:13.340
a midweek game. It's kind of catch 22. I mean,

01:49:13.359 --> 01:49:22.760
we're going to be at home. I feel like this is

01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:25.579
the kind of game where we may come across and

01:49:25.579 --> 01:49:31.399
come out firing. I hope so. Because I don't think

01:49:31.399 --> 01:49:33.960
anyone on the team feels really good about that

01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:35.800
second half where it's almost like we're coming

01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:39.579
back from a loss. So I think a lot of members

01:49:39.579 --> 01:49:43.239
of the team want to prove themselves from that.

01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:47.399
Interestingly enough, though, for Colorado, it's

01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:50.220
a midweek game for them. But they don't play

01:49:50.220 --> 01:49:53.960
again for 10 days because they've had all those

01:49:53.960 --> 01:49:57.359
games. They've got a big break. So there's a

01:49:57.359 --> 01:50:00.300
very real chance that they have nothing to lose

01:50:00.300 --> 01:50:04.460
about putting in the kitchen sink at this game.

01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:11.600
So I'm very curious to see how they show up and

01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:17.220
how they line up. Yeah. I would assume they're

01:50:17.220 --> 01:50:19.420
going to play all their starters, the same ones

01:50:19.420 --> 01:50:23.300
who just stuck it to Vancouver. And we just,

01:50:23.420 --> 01:50:30.399
I mean, we know. I hope so. Because, I mean,

01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:33.640
a lot of times they do. People do like putting

01:50:33.640 --> 01:50:38.239
in their, you know, players against their former

01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:42.289
team. You know, they sometimes get that. Any

01:50:42.289 --> 01:50:45.130
word on, I assume they're going to get Fry another

01:50:45.130 --> 01:50:48.130
week off? Yeah, I haven't heard anything. I'm

01:50:48.130 --> 01:50:51.350
sure Schmetzer talked about it with Jackson and

01:50:51.350 --> 01:50:55.350
Dick on KGR today when he was on, but I didn't

01:50:55.350 --> 01:50:56.829
hear the whole show. I just saw the highlights

01:50:56.829 --> 01:51:03.270
from Jackson. When was that match he got hurt

01:51:03.270 --> 01:51:05.750
in? Was that a week ago? That was six days ago.

01:51:06.029 --> 01:51:09.350
It was Sunday, not Saturday, right? So I don't

01:51:09.350 --> 01:51:12.340
think it's enough time to clear that. the concussion

01:51:12.340 --> 01:51:15.300
protocol. Oh no, it was the previous week. So

01:51:15.300 --> 01:51:17.779
yeah, it is enough time. I would be surprised

01:51:17.779 --> 01:51:19.579
though. I mean, I think that would be something

01:51:19.579 --> 01:51:23.020
we would hear. I think the club feels confident

01:51:23.020 --> 01:51:27.300
in Andrew Thomas and nothing I saw from his performance

01:51:27.300 --> 01:51:31.100
against Kansas city would dispel that. Yeah.

01:51:31.279 --> 01:51:34.560
I mean, he, he had a pretty great game and ultimately

01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:37.880
I think what his big thing is how he manages

01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:41.390
the back line and, and. Can he come up to par

01:51:41.390 --> 01:51:49.789
with how it's done from Fry? I mean, Fry, Sounders

01:51:49.789 --> 01:51:54.029
legend, right? Yeah. So do you want to give a

01:51:54.029 --> 01:51:57.729
prediction? Yeah, I'm going to go 2 -1 Seattle.

01:51:59.550 --> 01:52:03.970
Okay. I am going to say that the Sounders, I

01:52:03.970 --> 01:52:05.750
think Andy Thomas is going to get a shutout.

01:52:05.789 --> 01:52:10.300
I think the team is going to. play strong defensively.

01:52:13.739 --> 01:52:18.520
I'm very curious. Do you think that our starting

01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:25.699
four up top is going to be Jordan, Paul, Jesus,

01:52:25.819 --> 01:52:27.899
and Albert? Or do you think we're going to see

01:52:27.899 --> 01:52:34.880
some time from Kent? Yeah, that's my hope. Kent

01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:39.420
De La Vega on the wings. I mean, if you want

01:52:39.420 --> 01:52:41.560
Jesus, throw him over there at the 10, which

01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:44.739
hasn't been his best position this year. Or throw

01:52:44.739 --> 01:52:50.199
De La Vega there. But I think De La Vega on the

01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:52.859
left is where we've seen him have a lot of success

01:52:52.859 --> 01:52:54.539
this season, especially his goal against Cruz

01:52:54.539 --> 01:52:57.819
Azul, which should have counted. Yeah. Yeah,

01:52:57.859 --> 01:53:04.390
I'm curious to see how this goes. I wonder if

01:53:04.390 --> 01:53:07.189
because it's a three -game week, if we look back

01:53:07.189 --> 01:53:08.710
to what we were doing at the beginning of the

01:53:08.710 --> 01:53:11.470
season where we were giving multiple changes

01:53:11.470 --> 01:53:14.090
at halftime. Yeah. I mean, I think we'll see

01:53:14.090 --> 01:53:16.569
that anyways, no matter, depending on how teams

01:53:16.569 --> 01:53:22.949
are playing, I suppose. Yeah. But I guess I'm

01:53:22.949 --> 01:53:25.470
going to go with, I'm going to say 2 -0 Sounders.

01:53:25.890 --> 01:53:32.399
Nice. And, yeah. I think that's that I'm going

01:53:32.399 --> 01:53:34.340
to go with. I think Andy Thomas is going to get

01:53:34.340 --> 01:53:38.479
it done. I do think we're going to come out firing

01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:44.479
and we're going to have a good first half. But

01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:49.760
I think we're going to get our second goal. I

01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:51.359
think we're going to get our second goal before

01:53:51.359 --> 01:53:54.319
we start making major subs. So before the 65th

01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:56.180
minute and then just kind of see the game out.

01:53:56.560 --> 01:54:01.819
All right. I like it. I like it. It'd be fun.

01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:04.840
I mean, we need another multi -goal game, in

01:54:04.840 --> 01:54:07.520
my opinion, just to keep everything going. So

01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:10.180
I'm in favor of it. I don't think we're coming

01:54:10.180 --> 01:54:14.720
out of there with a 1 -0 victory. You obviously

01:54:14.720 --> 01:54:17.579
think we could, but I still think with Andy Thomas

01:54:17.579 --> 01:54:21.920
at the back, he's got to earn it, right? Well,

01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:23.760
we've been averaging two goals a game since Club

01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:27.220
World Cup. And it shows that I think we're a

01:54:27.220 --> 01:54:29.850
better team since Club World Cup. it shows yeah

01:54:29.850 --> 01:54:33.229
i mean that first half last week against kansas

01:54:33.229 --> 01:54:35.710
city i just felt like the way we were passing

01:54:35.710 --> 01:54:39.569
looked like what some of those teams were doing

01:54:39.569 --> 01:54:42.270
to us looked like what leddy was doing to us

01:54:42.270 --> 01:54:44.670
looked like what psg was doing as we're just

01:54:44.670 --> 01:54:46.829
taking it to kansas city they didn't know what

01:54:46.829 --> 01:54:51.350
the to do it was really fun to watch i like that

01:54:51.350 --> 01:54:54.489
yeah i'd like to see more of it um and i think

01:54:54.489 --> 01:55:00.770
the The expected goals against Columbus back

01:55:00.770 --> 01:55:04.409
up that, too, that we were very dangerous despite

01:55:04.409 --> 01:55:07.569
coming away with a draw in that last home match.

01:55:08.010 --> 01:55:11.329
Well, yeah, I mean, the Columbus game, our expected

01:55:11.329 --> 01:55:16.810
goals was 168 on eight total shots. You know,

01:55:16.869 --> 01:55:18.930
two on target, we're still getting that expected

01:55:18.930 --> 01:55:21.369
goal, so we're creating some really dangerous

01:55:21.369 --> 01:55:25.460
chances from the chances that we had. So I'd

01:55:25.460 --> 01:55:32.520
like to see that continue for sure. But we'll

01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:40.960
see. I mean, it's going to be interesting. Well,

01:55:40.979 --> 01:55:42.920
you're clearly falling asleep here. So I think

01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:45.659
maybe it's time to go. You've been up all day,

01:55:45.659 --> 01:55:48.199
though, so it makes sense. You know, why not?

01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:52.220
All right. So thank you so much, everyone, for

01:55:52.220 --> 01:55:57.130
listening. I know we've got another game coming

01:55:57.130 --> 01:55:59.949
up over the weekend. We're going to try to get

01:55:59.949 --> 01:56:05.409
a recording session in before games, but it can

01:56:05.409 --> 01:56:07.630
sometimes be a little trickier for us later in

01:56:07.630 --> 01:56:11.229
the week. But in the meantime, we will be active

01:56:11.229 --> 01:56:14.510
on Discord. Obviously, a lot of you get to see

01:56:14.510 --> 01:56:18.189
us on game day. We'd love to see you. And sign

01:56:18.189 --> 01:56:20.750
up for the Vamo Sounders Club. Pass that on.

01:56:20.789 --> 01:56:24.199
That's your mission. I want to see some success

01:56:24.199 --> 01:56:27.579
stories in the Discord when you pass that on

01:56:27.579 --> 01:56:31.420
and you get someone to sign up for that. Share

01:56:31.420 --> 01:56:37.220
the church at Sounders. Share with our community

01:56:37.220 --> 01:56:40.939
why you love our team and help other people get

01:56:40.939 --> 01:56:46.340
tickets to the game. Take it as an imperative

01:56:46.340 --> 01:56:50.409
for you to make that happen. Oh, yes, I totally

01:56:50.409 --> 01:56:55.750
forgot about this. This is something that we

01:56:55.750 --> 01:56:58.529
had heard about, but apparently it came out on

01:56:58.529 --> 01:57:02.489
Reddit. Don't forget to pick up your exclusive

01:57:02.489 --> 01:57:05.029
throwback item at the Membership Central tomorrow.

01:57:05.130 --> 01:57:06.810
So if you're a season ticket holder, go over

01:57:06.810 --> 01:57:09.289
and do that. I'm not going to tell you what it

01:57:09.289 --> 01:57:10.649
is because I don't know if it's been publicly

01:57:10.649 --> 01:57:13.079
released, although... They did get a picture

01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:14.979
of it from their rep, but since we were not told

01:57:14.979 --> 01:57:16.260
that, I'm just going to leave it at that. Go

01:57:16.260 --> 01:57:18.300
to Membership Central. If you're a season ticket

01:57:18.300 --> 01:57:21.819
holder, there's some cool stuff. Yeah, listen

01:57:21.819 --> 01:57:24.819
to him. Yep. All right, y 'all. See you later.

01:57:26.060 --> 01:57:35.680
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