He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public
can't say it's cheating. Oh, that music gets
me hyped. Hello and welcome to Sounders Scuttlebutt,
your favorite Sounders podcast. Number one in
your hearts and number one in your brains. This
is Cameron Collins, one of your hosts, and I
am here with my co -host. Hey, what's up Nick?
How's it going? Are things going good on your
side of things? They are. I'm thirsty, though,
so let's open this up. That was like three different
things at once. That was pretty impressive. I'm
going to try a different approach. Sometimes
I try nice and smooth. This time I'm just going
to go like a 15 -year -old who's never had sex
before. Oh, so not far from the truth. Well,
no, I'm just laughing because when I did that,
it... it basically frothed up like a 15 year
old boy who's never had sex before so yeah yeah
yeah yeah oh good you were thinking that let's
let's move on um yes uh welcome to sounders scuttlebutt
we had an eventful week here uh but before we
get started with anything you know what let's
start on a sad note we have not done for a while
the celebrity deaths and There's been a whole
bunch. Let's just go through real quick. I was
about to do something that I can't do because
it would have gotten our podcast taken down.
So unfortunately, instead, you're going to have
to hear me singing it. Come on, keep going. Was
it today? Well, anyways, David Kaff, the British
musician and actor that played Viv Savage in
The Spinal Tap, died last week at 79 years old.
That's a bummer. We also had James Carter Cathcart
pass away, who was the voice of Meowth and James.
Some big Pokemon stuff there, yeah. Pokemon in
the English version. Big one for me, Mark Snow,
Pastor Dan, 4th of July. He did the X -Files
music. Super iconic. He also did 200 episodes
of including that, but Smallville, Ghost Whisperer,
Blue Bloods, Heart to Heart, TJ Hooker, and Helter
Skelter. He got 30 ASCAP awards, which is pretty
incredible. Julian McMahon. Pretty fun actor.
Passed away on the 4th of July after a long battle
with cancer. Suddenly left a show that I watched
regularly and we never knew why. And now we did
because he had been diagnosed with cancer. So
super bummer. I'm going to skip this one real
quick because I think that's who we're going
to talk about the most. But I want to mention
that back in June, I think it was June 26th,
the day before my birthday, Lalo Schifrin died,
who was an amazing composer who did the scores
for Dirty Harry, Cool Hand Luke, Amityville Horror.
I think, was it Exorcist 2? One of the Exorcist
films for sure. Might have been the new Exorcist
actually as well. Incredible, incredible composer.
So that's sad. But sadly, dying of a heart attack
most recently of an actor who, I can't say he's
one of my favorite actors, but he's in a lot
of my favorite movies and I love him, Michael
Madsen. Great character actor. That was a tough
one. I did watch Reservoir Dogs in honor when
it happened, the day it happened. I just felt
like, oh, man, just iconic, some iconic stuff.
It's pretty incredible. Yeah. Do you have anyone
else that you wanted to add to that? I think
that that's it for my list. I will say that there's
been some incredible videos they've been showing
on that I've seen on Instagram of just interviews
with Michael Madsen talking about like Quentin
Tarantino. He wanted to be him. He wanted to
be Mr. On. and he was like no i want to be mr
pink but he went and tried out and he goes nope
you're mr blonde and he really let him do his
own thing and where he he was supposed to wear
a suit and he didn't have suits so he's he was
wearing like suit shoes so he was wearing his
cowboy boots because that was his own wardrobe
uh and i think it was buscemi didn't have suit
pants they wore jeans so uh it's it's pretty
interesting that movie how how much of it was
Harvey Keitel working with Quentin Tarantino
to get it done. And then they made this incredible.
Yeah. I mean, and, and I mean, one, if you haven't
seen two heads of our dogs, I highly, highly,
highly recommend going to watch that a really
good soundtrack, a really good, just tutorial
on how to make a low budget film look great.
You know, storytelling, it's all about storytelling
and really just kind of was the beginning of
Tarantino's great run. With that in mind, though,
we did not talk about the obvious celebrity death
that actually ties together soccer and celebrityism,
and that was Diogo Jota, which was just a horrible,
horrible thing. And kind of interesting to think
that if Liverpool was in the Club World Cup,
none of that would have happened. Yeah. Totally.
So it's, yeah, a total bummer. You know, I think
it's a time where not a fan of his club in any
way, but a bummer for a young man who had a lot
of amazing years ahead of him. And his younger
brother. I mean, his brother was not as good
at soccer, but that doesn't make him any less
of a person. So, it's kind of funny how, I mean,
I don't know if this is going to be a regular
segment on the show, but oftentimes, because
we do talk about pop culture and we do interact
things like that, and we keep talking about it
offline, this idea of, oh, we forgot to talk
about this or that. Yeah, so good to kind of
get caught up. Yeah, I think the last time we
talked about him might have been Brian Wilson.
Did I ever tell you about the time I met him?
Oh, yeah. No. As you know, I've seen the band
Barenaked Ladies 40 times. And in the summer
of 2001, I had the opportunity to meet Brian
Wilson. So I brought my Barenaked Ladies Brian
Wilson CD single. Yeah. Oh, yeah. As a matter
of fact, it's right there. I can go show it and
pull it up. So I had Brian Wilson sign it. And
then about a week and a half later, I was in
Cincinnati and I was hanging out backstage with
Barenaked Ladies. And I'm like, hey, guys, can
you know, I don't often do this, but can you
sign this for me? Because we were at the point
where I didn't. I had hung out with them enough
where it was like, oh, I don't need to have something
signed. You know what I mean? It wasn't that
wasn't our relationship. But, you know, like,
hey, I got some little special. Can you sign
this for me? And I pull it out, and they look
at it, and then they look a little closer. Like,
wait, is this Brian Wilson's signature? And we
all had a laugh at that. But, yes, I got this
cool thing. And funny enough, Brian Wilson opened
his show on that tour. He was touring with...
paul simon which is just a great one -two punch
but um uh brian wilson opened his set doing a
cover of bare naked ladies brian wilson in the
style of the beach boys it was it was just amazing
um yeah so so rip brian wilson he uh He was just
such an impact on pop culture, well, on pop music.
Inspired everyone from the Beatles to basically
every indie band since. Yeah, it's just, I feel
like, I don't know if he would have been as good
of a musician if he weren't afflicted by the
demons he was, but it's just, it's unfortunate
that his health physical and mental health really
prevented him from ever reaching the heights
that he could have. I mean, it took him out kind
of in the heights of where he was going. Yeah,
I think that's a more accurate description because,
I mean, if that's not the heights, there's a
handful of people who have had bigger heights
in music history. So I'd love to hear a definition.
But with that said, what's your favorite Beach
Boys song? Ooh, maybe good vibrations. I mean,
I, I, I like, I was listening to them the other
day, like right after he passed. There's just
some that I get when I was younger, it was all
the service because they reminded me of and going
to California and seeing my grandma. And, you
know, my mom grew up in Southern California and
we're listening to the beach boys and stuff like
that. So it really reminded me of that. But no,
I think it's, it's some of the later stuff actually,
when it started, be showing his songwriting coming
through instead of just pure pop songs when he
was actually writing these incredible, incredible
songs. But you know what, what I always found
interesting is that what's the name of the documentary?
Oh, I haven't, but that's the, the, the musicians,
the studio musicians that are the songwriters,
right? Yeah. So they, they were oftentimes it
was him. oh god only knows for me it's like yeah
wouldn't it be nice god only knows and and don't
worry baby like those those those are my things
but uh but you're saying i'm sorry the wrecking
crew oh incredible i mean they they it was just
brian wilson and them writing songs together
and you know other you know mike love and and
the others would pop in and out but in the end
it was really brian wilson show right like and
so just to have that amazing crew of musicians
who wrote so many of the hit songs that we know
that we don't even know who they are. You haven't
seen it. Definitely recommend checking it out.
It's incredible. That's right up my alley. And
I mean, is that on max by any chance? Cause they've
had some really great music documentaries over
the years. I feel like it was on Netflix at one
point in 2008. And it looks like it's free and
to be right now. But it's 94 % from Rotten Tomatoes.
I mean, that sounds up my alley for sure. I do
love a good music documentary. I always had.
I still have a huge DVD collection of some great
D .A. Pennebaker stuff and Les Waltz. They wrote
most of the Monkees songs. Daydream Believer.
Beast Boys, Frank Sinatra, Nancy Sinatra, Sonny
and Cher, Jan and Dean, Cary Lewis and the Playboys,
Mamas and Papas, Tijuana Brass, Ricky Nelson,
John Rivers, Phil... They were Phil Spector's
band, Wall of Sound. So they played on so many
hits. That's very cool. Yeah, I do love those
kind of documentaries. Another one in that same
era and part of the country about the Laurel
Canyon sound was really good. The Laurel Canyon
tapes. Somewhat recently because they were doing
a benefit concert. I think Beck was involved
and Joni Mitchell. Anyways, yeah. So definitely
we'll have to check that out because music documentaries
are often great things to put on while you're
paying attention but also kind of screwing around
on your phone or typing or doing something on
the computer. It's a good one -two punch a lot
of times. It's also great when you're traveling.
It's great airplane banter. That's cool. That
is cool. Any other pop culture you want to hit
before we jump in? I don't think either of us
have been to any. I mean, I went to Wu -Tang
on my birthday, which was incredible seeing them,
their final ever Seattle show as a total group.
And they brought out Young D .B. to play with
them, which I'd seen him perform before. But
having Young Dirty Bastards sing the old Dirty
Bastards songs. And they let them do their solo
stuff, too. Like Jezza got some Young D .B. did
some O .D .B. songs. They did Shimmy Shimmy Ya
and Baby I Got Your Money. in Brooklyn Zoo, and
then they did Method Man. Well, that is a Wu
-Tang song, but Method Man did the song he does.
Gosh, what's the name of that song? There's two
different versions of it. You're All I Need to
Get By? Yeah. Okay, yeah. You're All I Need to
Get By, the Mary J. Blythe. I prefer that version
to the other, but it's kind of like how the roots
have two different... They have Erykah Badu version
and Jill Scott version of You Got Me. And Jill
Scott's incredible, but... Yeah, I saw Erykah
Badu do that version of it with them at Woodstock
99. It was amazing. Incredible. Amazing. That's
incredible. That immediately followed up The
Roots with Insane Clone Posse. Oh, of course.
And that was before their great hit that went...
Water, fire. What is it? That was, that was a
amazing, amazing. No. Oh yeah. It was way, way
after, way before miracles. Magical mysteries.
Oh, miracles. Magical mysteries was the SNL one.
But no, this was amazing. Jekyll brothers era.
Great. Yeah. Anyways. They seem like good dudes,
despite the fact that the fans. I'm going to
push back on the fans are horrendous part. I
mean, it's interesting. It is a culture of, I'm
going to be careful on how I say this, but it's
a culture of misfits finding each other and finding
community within each other. And I think it's
easy to mock and make fun of them, but that's
just the easy, lazy way instead of seeing what's
really going on there. Almost like how at a,
you know, at, at a metal show, metal heads would
get a bad reputation, but there's like, there's
like honor in the pit and there's rules that
you handle. And there's, so I think, I think
there's, there's more to it than you think. I'm
sure. And they're not all like that, but I have
had some bad run -ins with juggalos, especially
late nineties, early two thousands. And also
the way, what you just described was my, also
my experience when I went undercover at a far
right anti -vax pro gun rally. And they all were
so nice and kind to me. And I found that all
of them were just people who had nowhere to go.
And so they got sucked into this cult of crazy
right wingers. And that was a crazy rally to
be at. I had so many women hit on me because
they thought I was a right winger. And I was
like, I don't like you. Womp womp. We do have
some scuttlebutt to talk about, though, as well.
Moving some soccer related scuttlebutt. One,
let's give a shout -out to addition to the MLS
All -Star team. One sounder will be on the All
-Star team. Do you know who it is? Okay. It is.
I do. Obed Vargas. It is, and I think that's
well -deserved. Yeah, interesting choice. I mean,
I think on the balance of the season, yes, but
it is surprising to me because I think there
are other players on the team. I mean, Roldan's
having a season, but yeah. But I'm definitely
going to tune in and see how Obed does against
League MX teams. So that'll be fun. Some bad
news in the Sounders adjacent world. Aaron Long
is out for the season. He ruptured his Achilles
in the game against FC Dallas this weekend. So,
and he's been LAFC's captain, but he's out for
the season. So that's a shame because, you know
what, I don't have any problem with Aaron Long.
I really don't. And so you never want to see
that. You never want to see that. No, I mean,
I wish he had come back to Seattle when he came
back, but he's always been. a pretty solid player
and, and, um, you don't want to see anyone get
hurt that, I mean, I don't, I don't even think
I'd want to wish injury on, um, Steven Linhart
or, uh, uh, who, who's the guy who will Johnson
such a Dick. His name is Dick, Dick, um, Willie
Johnson. Um, You're not wrong. Other news that
came out today was that they added details to
the bonus structure regarding the Club World
Cup. Adrian Hanauer talked about that in our
Alliance Council annual business meeting. But
the details on that were released today. And
it sounds like a 40 % increase from the $1 million
cap. They obviously would have gotten more than
that had they advanced. So Miami got more than
that $1 .4 million. So good. I'm glad that cooler
heads prevailed and they properly recognized
that it was definitely not equal and it was not
right. And they rectified that. So good on them.
Speaking of the Club World Cup, the Club World
Cup ended this weekend with an interesting match
between two of your favorite European teams that
you've been following for quite some time. So
why don't you give a little quick recap of how
that game went? Yep. The team I've been supporting
for 30 years, Chelsea. absolutely demolished
the team I've been supporting for 25, Paris Saint
-Germain. Both of them before they were owned
by, you know, Russian billionaires. Well, world
soccer's changed over the last 30 years, so you
just, yeah, you can't hold that against you.
Yeah, so it's a fascinating game. I mean, Chelsea
did to PSG what PSG did to Real Madrid. I mean,
just was up 3 -0 in halftime, and then were able
to hold on. You just see how the thing with PSG
is they have really, really great players, but
they're all young and none of them are superstars.
And Chelsea has a few superstars, Oli Palmer
especially. So they were able to exploit their
defense with their speed and I think punch PSG
in the mouth and just couldn't come back from
it. I think the game. was marred a little bit
by donald trump raising the trophy with chelsea
uh you saw palmer standing behind him going why
is trump here that's what he said and also they
got a replica trophy because uh infantino gave
the actual now that one okay so so two things
about that story one i don't know if we're ever
going to know the full truth on how that went
it could be Well, that's the first thing that
I thought of. That is exactly the first thing
I thought of. Second thing is that at that time,
the original trophy did not have LAFC on it.
So perhaps they realized that they needed to
take off Leon and put on LAFC. So they're like,
okay, well, here you take that. So who the hell
knows? Definitely could be. But I'm not going
to give the benefit of the doubt to Trump because
he's, well. Well, here's the thing is, from working
with FIFA through the human rights process, I
know that FIFA was really hoping. Trump would
win the presidency because they could do a lot
of stuff. I would not be surprised if they aren't
close friends. I wonder if Adrian is feeling
a little snubbed by Infantino that he gave it
to Trump and not to Adrian, though. Because we
saw them cozying up together inside the boxes.
But all kidding aside, the... Infantino's got
to basically play this... game where he's got
to be a sycophant but also yeah he needs to you
know take take take as much as he can and well
the playbook on trump is pretty much kiss his
ass and you can kind of play him like a fiddle
so right which which they're going to need to
do if they want the proper visas exactly so so
i do play and visit and watch the whole thing
just makes me sick But it's not a good look on
Trump, so that makes me happy. And frankly, it's
just funny to see Chelsea Photoshopping Trump
out of their photos. Oh, yeah, their official
photos, they Photoshopped him out. Like, fuck
this guy. I mean, he shouldn't, he shouldn't
have been, I don't even care if it was, was Dennis
Kucinich out there who I would have killed to
be president. Like the president of the United
States should not be lifting it unless he's a
lifelong fan. Right. If, if it's like, if there's
something, yeah. I mean, like if the Seahawks
won, I would want to be there lifting it with
them or something like that. But the Sounders,
the mayor, you know, but he's not, he doesn't
know who those teens are. Anyways. I'd rather
not talk about Trump just because, well, I'd
like to avoid being on watch lists and things
like that. I think we're okay. Although I did
see a friend tweet today that one of her friends
got visited by Homeland Security because of a
pretty innocuous tweet. So they're watching,
they're listening, and you know that they have
files on us. Yeah. But what else has gone on?
I mean, I think we have some scuttlebutt questions,
but let's do the breaking news before we get
into the match. Wait, wait, wait. One last thing.
One last non -sounders thing. Vita, details are
starting to come out about how you can get World
Cup tickets. So let's definitely make sure we're
talking about that. Uh, and so, so that's kind
of, uh, where did, where did you send me the
link this morning? Yeah, it's, if you go to fifa
.com slash tickets, make sure you're signed up
for an account. And then there should be a link
that says, tell them you're interested at the
top. You just click it, you put your information
in there. And then in September, they'll send
out the info. So there'll be the first draw application
windows will, um, will be conducted, uh, September
10th, uh, or sorry, open September 10th. We'll
be the beginning of that. And going off of previous
World Cups, usually what happens is they do them
in different phases. And when the first phase
gets announced, tickets will go on sale probably
before the draw happens. Then when the draw happens,
it's actually quite clever on their part. When
the draw happens, people who bought tickets and
are like, oh, well, now I can't use these tickets
because the teams I'm trying to follow aren't
going there. They return those tickets and get
a. A markup, they get a, you know, oh, here you
can return your ticket at a 10 % ticket cost.
And then they go back on sale, and then there
will usually be a local sale, etc., etc., etc.
The short version is if you don't care what specific
game you want to go to for the World Cup with
the expanded 48 -team World Cup, I would probably
say wait to buy tickets. If you are looking for
specific games or marquee teams, you're going
to want to buy tickets when they go on sale because
it'll be harder to get. But there's going to
be games here in Seattle. There's going to be
a team like Vietnam versus Cameroon, something
like that, where there's going to be some games
that are not super high interest. Right. I mean,
I want to go to the USA game, obviously. And
that's my goal. If I only get one is to go to
that, but I'll go to any of the games. And I,
even to me, that is fascinating game. Like when,
when Copa America was Haiti versus Cuba or something
like that, or Peru, there was like, there was
one of those types of games, but it was still
fun. The women's world cup games that I had no.
knowledge of the team turned out to be some of
the great games you know switzerland versus cameroon
and um just just a lot of fun so so ultimately
it'll be it'll be exciting i think i did the
math and i think there will be a guaranteed minimum
of seven different nations playing in seattle
um there is the possibility that one team will
play two group stage games here in seattle they're
the probability actually because there's two
like group g games here and we know for sure
the USA will play one game here. And then, of
course, there will be knockout round games, so
we may get other teams that we hadn't already
seen. In the end, it's going to be a great time,
and it'll give us some fun content as the year
goes on. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm guessing we're
going to be priced out of most of those tickets
unless you and I get a nice big... fancy jobs
in the next few weeks. Yeah. So if you know any,
if anyone knows people hiring, let us know. Yeah.
I mean, I, I'm, I love working for myself and
I'm teaching now or I'm developing a class now
that I'm getting paid to develop and I'm teaching
in the fall, but the teachers don't make a lot
of money. So not. Enough to get by, but not enough
for World Cup. And I mean, you know, my background
in customer success and account management type
stuff, I love helping people. And, you know,
I would love to help people. Hire me. Let's do
that. Okay, moving on. Let's talk about New Who,
shall we? We had an interesting game on this
weekend. New Who. Got himself into a little bit
of trouble? Yeah, he got a red card for chucking
the ball at the fan. Unfortunate, stupid mistake,
but I think a lot of fans piled on because we've
come to expect stupid mistakes. It's a Rorschach
test. Yeah, and I think my biggest problem with
the whole thing isn't actually... that we isn't
actually mad at the fact, like I'm annoyed at
the fact he did it. And I think there needs to
be consequences, but I actually don't like all
the people that come out of the woodworks and
just say, if you're critical of him, you just
clearly always hate them. And you wouldn't do
this to other people on the team, but you didn't
do this to Dempsey. And to me, that's a very,
they're not even close to the same thing. I mean,
one was in the U S open cup and should not have
transferred over to MLS soccer. That's ridiculous
that it did. And that game involved a ref making
really, really bad calls. How many times did
they give our players the finger? Go watch that
Jordan Morris goal. There was like 20 people
behind. I've given the finger. Yeah. I mean,
you just, you can't chuck the ball. Now I said
this online on the discord. If someone said something
racist to him, I want, I want him, I would, I
would support him even if he went and did an
Eric Cantona kick to the dude's head, I would
be in favor of it. Like, I'm sorry if you're
a bigot, get the F out. But that's not what happened
because Schmetzer would have said that. And we
know based on what he said then and now. So it's
unfortunate. I don't think we need to go too
much into it. People know that it's frustrating.
The most frustrating thing for me is you can't
rely for him to be on the field if he's going
to act this way. Yeah, it's a concerning pattern.
It's been a concerning month for Nuhu. Well,
I'm going to refresh that. I do not want to lump
in the Vancouver red card with the Botafogo incident
and this, because the Botafogo and this were
just unforced errors. The Vancouver red card
very easily is a soccer play. Yeah, it was stupid.
from a soccer brain perspective, not a, that's,
that's, that's more, that's more of a, Oh, he
thought he was in a position where that's going
to give him the yellow and not the dog. So, you
know, like, I don't think, I don't think he thought
he was in a last man back situation there. So
I'm not going to give, so I just want to be careful
on, on it. Cause like I said, it's easy to pile
on. And there's plenty of ammunition where you
want to find it. But this was New Who's fourth
red card. His history was... So the two red cards
we just talked about. Last year, he got a second
yellow, which turned into a red. And then his
rookie season, he got a straight red. So on one
side, let's kind of slow the horses here and
not pretend that New Who's got a history of...
of red cards because that's not really true but
but he does have a history of making interesting
decisions yeah and and and wait when was the
one that was in was it in the playoffs when it
was like the first five minutes when he like
swung and missed and got a red card and i mean
there's just like there's times where you just
like what are you doing from a soccer perspective
it's boneheaded These are totally different,
and I think that's why Schmetzer said today on
KJR with Dick Fane and Greg Bell that Nuhu needs
to grow up and be a leader on the team as he's
the fourth longest tenured guy. That's fair to
call him out on that. Yep. The league suspended
him $2 ,500 and fined him $2 ,500 and suspended
him for two games. So three games total or two
additional games or two games total? I think
it was two total. Two games total is the way
it was said. Okay, so an additional game, which
tracks to what I thought of in the moment. Yeah,
it seems a little light considering what they
usually give an extra one for. No, fan interaction.
Doing anything untowards towards a fan is going
to get you a minimum of a game. Oh, I thought
he would have got more is what I'm saying. I
mean, because he chucked the ball as hard as
he could at the dude's head. It wasn't like a
soft. With velocity. I wouldn't say as hard as
he could, but you're not wrong. He definitely
threw at a pace that was unnecessary. Yeah. And
look, I'm one to talk. I've had moments, even
in soccer, public, where I lose my head and say
dumb shit. But in your defense, you were a rookie.
And so now you're becoming a veteran, and there's
no time for that shit. I became a veteran and
was nominated for most fun player on my team.
Yeah, because people like watching to see what
stupid shit you're going to do next. No, it's
actually because I'm a rah -rah guy behind the
scenes and try to have fun. I don't think we
need to say too much more. It's just, it's disappointing
for a player who's not young anymore. It's an
unneeded distraction. It goes. Yeah. And what
we talked about last season and the season before,
you know, when, when he missed his flights home
and the other times when he got COVID because
he was hanging out with people, he shouldn't
have been. And just, he got the blood disease
that one time. Not malaria. Yeah, for me, it's
just a series of questionable decisions that
you need to hold yourself to a more rigid standard
as a professional athlete when your team's relying
on you. I think people think because I'm critical
of him going forward that I don't think he is
valuable for the team. But when we did on the
most recent Ultras episode, when we broke down
our best 11 all -time for the Sounders, he's
my starting left back. Like, he's the best defensive
left back we've ever had, in my opinion. He's
kind of the opposite of Brad Smith. Fair enough.
So I just wish it wouldn't. I mean, if you get
a red card in the game for trying to stop a guy
breaking away, whatever, that's one thing. It's
boneheaded. It's stupid. I think unforced errors,
is that what you called it? I think that's what
it is to me. We've had so many injuries this
year. The Sounders don't need more unforced errors,
right? It's going to hurt us not having him on
the field because there is a drop -off defensively
from him to Cody Baker or Reed Baker -Whitey.
So we'll see what happens. What games is he missing?
Well, we play Colorado tomorrow. And then I believe
our next game after that is against San Jose.
Does that sound right to you? That's correct.
San Jose for the Heritage Cup. Winner takes all.
Or if we tie 0 -0, it goes to Seattle. If we
tie 2 -2 or greater, it goes to San Jose. And
then I don't know what the tiebreaker is. If
it's 1 -1, I'll have to look more into that.
But, yeah, so we've got Colorado tomorrow, San
Jose on Saturday, and then we have a week off.
We'll play the following Saturday against Atlanta.
That game will be on the road. I know. Yeah,
let's actually – I don't think we talked about
that. We haven't talked about it. We talked about
it on – Yeah, let's take a quick moment on that.
So news is that Gerd Laguerre is stepping down
temporarily from – From Atlanta Operations as
he is battling cancer. Garth is my hope for Commissioner
when Don Garber steps down. I think he's exactly
the right dynamic for that. He's a truly genuine
guy. Someone who... Clearly knows the game inside
and out, both as a player, as a lawyer, as a
front office person. And he's got a very big
picture look at things. Things aren't going great
for them in Atlanta right now. But, yeah, I mean...
Yeah, so just shout out to Garth. Garth, make
a big, speedy recovery, and you can go smack
another raw egg over my head whenever you're
feeling better. I've got a great GIF that I posted
to the Discord of playing egg Russian roulette
with him and Alex rolled on and Christian rolled
on. So each of them were standing behind a contestant,
me being one of the three contestants. And we'd
pick an egg, and they would smash the egg over
our head. If it's hard -boiled, we advance. If
it's raw egg, we are eliminated. And, yeah, so
I've got a great video of him smashing my raw
egg over my head. Good stuff. Yeah. And I can't
remember if I talked about this on, on the last
episode of, of Scuttlebutt with the ultras, because
I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm super bummed about
this. I got to drop him a note. I haven't yet.
Cause I'm sure he's getting so many, but you
know, I, I was in communication with him six
months ago talking about working on a project
with him and he was just super excited to hear
from me. And, you know, we, He'd heard about
a job that I'd really wanted that I hadn't gotten.
And he was just like, it's going to be super
cool, man. You're like, you'll, you'll get to
where you need to be like very encouraging. And
he's just, yeah, it's such a genuine dude. I
mean, this is the guy who right after we had
won champions league, he grabbed me and just
hugged me. And I was like, you did it, Garth.
You did it. And he's like, no, we did it. and
not in the cheesy way he's just yeah no he meant
he meant it like uh and so you know he's just
such a genuinely good guy and and uh not someone
that i would ever I mean, not that I want something
bad ever to happen to anyone, but of all the
people, he's the kind of person we need in soccer
front offices, or like you said, in MLS front
offices. And so it's a sad day for U .S. soccer,
and hopefully he beats it. The information I've
heard is... that it's a positive prognosis, but
ultimately it's cancer. You don't fuck around
with that. You just attack it, attack it hard,
and it sounds like he's taking all the right
steps. So Garth, we're thinking of you, and you're
welcome to come onto the show anytime you want.
Of course. I mean, I'm going to reach out to
him, so I'll mention do it eventually. But, yeah,
it's a really – it's just – Hey, let's switch
over to one more non -soccer -related topic.
There's some scuttlebutt. How about the big dumper?
Oh, yeah. Incredible to see a kid who, when he
was a kid, talked about winning the Home Run
Derby, and then Kyle Rowley goes ahead and wins
the Home Run Derby. And literally the first ever
catcher to win the Home Run Derby. And not only
that, I don't recall ever seeing a Home Run Derby
contestant switch hitting during a round. Yeah.
You know who did in Seattle? Oh, the Oregon guy?
uh was he with uh not the nationals was he baltimore
yeah baltimore yeah okay he did he hit us he
went around but he didn't do it throughout okay
but uh when last year when it was in seattle
uh he did that so uh it was pretty incredible
but yeah i mean cal raleigh of course one for
two today better than mike mike judd better than
uh aaron judge And, you know, unfortunately,
the National League won in a home runoff because
it was tied 6 -6 after nine innings. Kind of
a joke. I mean, how did that even work? I didn't
see, but... I don't even know. I didn't watch
it. It was on in the background when I took my
nephew earlier today to our favorite place in
Robin at Northgate. But I did love that Humpy
was there at the... Yeah, they did a mascot race,
and Humpy was definitely bringing out the rear.
It's great stuff. Speaking of which, did you
see that later this season they are doing a bobblehead
night, one of the community theme nights. So
you have to buy the special community theme ticket.
when you buy the ticket, you choose which of
the four fish you want as the bobblehead. Yeah.
I mean, it makes me really bummed that I don't
have back -to -my -career type of jobs because
I would have gotten four tickets and gotten one
of each of the four bobbleheads for that one.
Okay. So now... Why don't we why don't we do
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being a part of the team. Yeah, yeah. It's great
to have them in the fold and just adding more
additional content. Because ultimately, that's
what we're here for. We're here to sit around,
have a beverage, talk some soccer, talk some
pop culture, enjoy the community of what we all
love together, which is Sounders soccer. So speaking
of Sounders soccer, this weekend. We had definitely
a game. And you know what? This really would
have been a game. We've done some live episodes,
especially on Road Games, where Cameron and I
will do live recording. I feel like this game
would have been interesting. To watch brains
melting in real time. Yeah, so starting off in
the first half, first off, I guess we'll say,
why don't we talk about the score prediction
challenge? Yeah, yeah, because we have a tie.
One is a second -time winner. I know. One is
a two -time winner. And have you won before this
season? I think I did have one early in the season.
Okay, so a couple of double -time winners, but
the other one is more impressive than yours.
No offense. I mean, you're not wrong. You have
soccer knowledge. I don't know what, what she's
drawing from. Well, here's the crazy thing is
I don't tell. So, so let's, let's say, so with
four points, both myself and my daughter, Roma,
five -year -old who has gotten two wins in. Three
weeks? I mean, I only started asking her for
scores like three games ago, and she's got two
wins. That's really incredible. I don't know
what that means. But, yeah, it's funny because
we both predicted three goals for the Sounders.
She predicted a 3 -0 win. I predicted 3 -1. and
we both predicted Jordan Morris. Now, what's
funny is I don't lead her on it. I just ask her,
hey, who's going to win? What do you think the
score is going to be? And she just makes it up.
I'm waiting for her one day to say, like, 10
to 7. But until then, you know. So the rest of
us, I'm going to even throw myself in there because
her points per game is off the charts right now.
So we've got some work to do. Yeah, yeah, totally.
I mean, it's fun, though. It's fun. I can't complain
about it. I, of course, picked one -to -one and
did not get it. Didn't work out. I'd been convinced
to pick better, and then I went back on it by
the time it had started. So, yeah, going into
the game, Sporting Kansas City was... Having
some decent results, unbeaten in three, two wins,
but they were susceptible. They've been leaking
goals all season long, and I think that really
showed right from the opening whistle. I think
it was really interesting to see the Sounders
just kind of having their way with them. That
first half, we were making... Just amazing passes.
We were doing switches. We were attacking in
all sorts of creative, awesome ways. I think
that starting lineup with Jordan up top, with
Paul Rothrock, Albert Rosnack, Jesus Ferreira,
and the Band of Three, and Christian and Obed
behind them was really, really dynamic. There
were moments where I was seeing Obed deep into
the box. making runs and making plays. Just really,
really pleased with what I saw there. What were
your thoughts on that beginning to the game?
Yeah, I mean, I think I was really surprised
that it was that instant, but just incredible
to see us come out firing in all cylinders like
we hoped they would and just kind of stick it
to them. To me, it almost created a tale of two
halves. This is what I think Aaron and I have
been calling for. Now we just need a little bit
of consistency. Yep, it literally is the tale
of two halves. I mean, if I flip it upside down,
it's the same thing. The momentum meter that
we love to play around with. But you're not wrong
because in the first half, we had 61 % possession.
We had expected goals of 2 .12 in the first half
to 0 .35. Six shots on target, three big chances,
and we missed none of the big chances, and we
were just dominating. And then the second half
was the other way around, where Kansas City,
instead of us having 61 % possession, they had
58 % possession. They had an expected goals of
3 .08 to our .20. They had 17 shots, five on
target in the second half. to our four shots,
one on target. And it just, yeah, just completely,
completely different. Now, game state matters,
and to Kansas City's credit, they did not give
up. But I think it also speaks loudly to the
narrative that this starting 11 was really good.
And it was nice to have a DP forward in our lineup.
Yeah, it made a big difference for sure. And
I wonder, Schmetzer after the game said that
he felt like both of the goals were penalties
so that we shouldn't be too concerned about it,
I guess. I think the second one especially was
a... I'm pissed about the second one because
there were two fouls immediately before that
where it should not have even had... If you're
going to VAR a foul in the box but then ignore
the two blatant fouls before that within 10 seconds,
I mean, hell, the... The second foul was at the
beginning of the replay going into the box. You
have to watch that foul. So it's just really
annoying. Really annoying. There was a handball.
And then to start that whole sequence for Kansas
City. So it's almost it would have been better
if they had scored instead of drew the penalty.
Because if they had scored, those fouls could
have been come back. I don't know if the rule
needs to be rewritten or if this is just a bad,
like a rarity that just doesn't really happen
and just have to suck it up and go, that's soccer.
But I can be annoyed by that. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
I feel like they should have the ability to go
back and look at that. But, I mean, it clearly
was a penalty, though, that one. I think the
first one was really soft. I did not like the
call. especially the more times I watched the
replay, the more I was just like, how do you
go to VAR and call this a penalty? Yeah. At the
same time, if it had been called a penalty in
real time, I don't know if VAR is going to overturn
it. But VAR should not. I hate that, though.
VAR, I think, should call the correct call, not
like in the NFL where they're like, well, there
has to be convincing evidence. I'm like, no,
just call what you see. Just get on the right
call. Like, this is silly. But, hey, in the end,
it's, you know, what it was. They get a couple
penalties. And let's be perfectly honest here.
Okay, let's take either of those penalties. There
were arguments that could be made that maybe
either one maybe could have been called differently.
If that exact same thing happened a few times,
maybe it gets called differently. Maybe the fouls
get called. Maybe they don't call that a penalty,
this first one. Who knows? But can we please
talk about the save of the year from Alex Roldan?
Every time I watch that replay, I pull a muscle.
Yeah. I mean, it's painful to watch. How do you
even get your leg to do that? just wow um just
wow so so with that said they're you know let's
also be honest that should have been a goal um
so so you know uh just just just interesting
interesting game um negatives i mean obviously
we talked about new who i'm not thrilled about
that um More importantly, I think my biggest
issue about that is at the time of the replay
when he is about to throw that ball to the fan,
all the other sounders, except I think Jonathan
Bell's in the area, all the other sounders are
at the sideline. Yeah, I don't understand why
he was over there. Why is he there? What's he
doing over there? So I almost... There's a side
of me that wants to know. The other side is like,
fuck it, let's move on. With the exception of
we got one of the most hilarious forever going
to be used images in soccer history. Of him flipping
off the ref? Because he's trying to explain why
I was doing it, which still doesn't... How do
you think that's going to make it better? Yeah.
Yeah. It's just... I don't even know. I don't
even know. But hey, I want to give some big credits
as Kansas City. It'd be so easy to just give
up at that point. And that's not what happened.
They fought real hard. They had a great second
half. They definitely got the moral victory on
the day, but they don't get three points. They
don't get three points. And that's ultimately,
we came away with three points. So we did our
job. Well, we did a job. Can we talk about the
performances of some of our attacking options
off the bench? Yes, please do. And I have a theory.
It could be bunnies for you Buffy the Vampire
Slayer fans. But no, I do have a theory. So Ryan
Kent, Pedro de la Vega, both looked ineffective
for large swaths of their appearance time. Although
they did have a really good... opportunity together
in like the 90th minute in stoppage time that
that looked really good ryan kent just basically
made you know uh fuck this shit i'm running 60
yards myself and and pass it all to pedro who
who misses quite quite spectacularly but my theory
is this neither of them had experienced what
ichiro loves to say in his favorite quote which
is summer in kansas city is hotter than two rats
in a wool sock that is a real quote um from each
row was that pop costas was that the interview
i think it was but so if you don't know that
clip go find it it's great but but thinking back
to um One of the all -time worst Sounders games
ever. The game that got Ziggy Schmidt fired.
Similar thing. We're just lackluster performance
by some players. Who was it? Was it Joven Jones
that stopped running on their third goal? There
were a lot of problems that game. But it makes
me wonder if... Kent and De La Vega had never
had to play in that kind of a condition. I don't
know. I'm trying to give a benefit of the doubt
because they both did not look great. They look
better than Danny did. I mean, I know that's
not saying a lot. Well, wait, let me take that
back, though. The thing, though, is before that
first penalty, Pedro does make a great defensive
play running all the way back and makes a great
tackle block at the top of the box. And then
seconds later, we draw the penalty. But he also
basically gifted some balls to Kansas City to
lead directly to penalties. And so, I don't know.
It's just... I want Pedro to do so well. And
it just, it just, it just frustrates the hell
out of me when he isn't showing his skill. What
do you think it is? Why? I mean, to me, and,
and I can't, obviously we don't know, we don't
have behind the scenes on this. You know, maybe
it's something, maybe I'll email our GM. My brain
is not working tonight, obviously, but maybe
I'll. you know me email uh our friend over in
the front office and just talk to him about it
because i feel like with more minutes we would
see more out of de la vega but he's not even
getting the minutes to show himself yeah i mean
and it doesn't help that um i mean here's the
reality is is the talent that you have only gets
you so far. You've got to perform. Yeah. And
who are you going to give those minutes to? Are
you going to give them to Pedro? Are you going
to give them to Jesus Ferreira? Are you going
to give them to Paul Rothrock? And Rothrock and
Ferreira have been getting them, but I have not
seen, I mean, maybe Ferreira is amazing in practice.
I've not seen enough out of Ferreira to make
me think he should be starting over Kent or De
La Vega. And De La Vega usually is on the left,
not the right, but he can do both. I mean, for
us, but he can do both. I mean, Jesus has three
goals, four assists in the, in the season. Yeah.
In regular season play. I, I, and I think he's
been, he's been showing really well these last
few weeks for sure. I would agree with that,
but I don't, it's few and far between at times
because I don't think he was great during the
club world cup. So, I mean, I think if we take
that blip out, he was good before and after.
But he wasn't bad. He just wasn't, you know,
Christian good. Christian was obviously the star
of the Club World Cup for us. Well, I mean, it's
also easier given our competition for a defensive
player to shine in this because you're asking
a defensive player to do what he does best. I
think there's a frustration for me. that Jesus,
he's kind of like Danny in that he's getting
in the right position, but he's stopped scoring.
Danny has scored, was it one goal in 11 matches,
two goals in those last 11? He's fallen off,
right? And so I think we've seen Jesus have multiple
chances, including during the Club World Cup,
where if he just didn't lean back, it's in the
goal. True, but he's also got two goals in, what,
three games? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and this is
why I think he's probably killing it at practice.
Because Schmetzer's going to go with the hot
hand, I would think. But also, at times, Schmetzer's
gone with his guys. And this is something we've
talked about in the past, and it makes me wonder.
We always had, and this is supposed to be Freddy
Juarez's role, when we had Gonzo, he was the
one in Schmetzer's ear making sure he made the
necessary changes to the hot player and not just
going with his players. And I wonder if Freddie
does that, make good changes, but it's at halftime.
It's the Pete Carroll philosophy when oftentimes
for Pete Carroll, it ended up being too little
too late. And I don't know what it is. Why do
some of our players play this really good, some
games and then awful other games? There's plenty
of reasons why, but the lack of consistency for
our club is frustrating. I'm just hoping we've
turned a new corner. I'm frustrated, though,
that the League's Cup is interrupting League
play again, though. I'm excited for the League's
Cup. I know you aren't going to be there, but
I'm going to go. Well, I'll be at the Cruz Azul
game. Okay. You're going to chant death with
me? You know it. I did sign up for the Vamos
Saunders Club. Oh, sweet. Good for you. Habla
espanol? Have you been practicing? Un poquito.
No, funny enough, though, actually, you would
not believe. So I have the QR code on my phone.
And because of what I'm doing with some of the
stuff that I do, I interact with a lot of behind
-the -scenes restaurant workers and a lot of
heavy Latino and Spanish -speaking members of
our community. And so I'll ask them if they like
soccer, if they like football. And they're like,
yeah. And so I explain what I'm about. I show
them their QR code. And I explain, do you want
to go see the Sounders play Cruz Azul or Tijuana
or Santos Laguna? And watching their eyes light
up and like free. And so I'll be like, yeah,
dos paletos. And explain that the tickets are
free and such. And it's been great. And so I
hope. I hope I'm getting a whole bunch of people
involved in that. I challenge each of you. Hey,
we are a community. And obviously, this is an
English -speaking podcast. But I challenge you
to download or not even download, just pull up
the link to the Sounders Vamos Club. Save it
to yourself. Text it to yourself as a link so
you have it saved so you can share it with people.
And have a conversation about what you love about
soccer with someone and offer that to someone.
So can you tell me more about how you get those
tickets to that match? Is it you just have to
be a member? Yeah, so what's going to happen
is you sign up for the Vamos Sounders Club. Now,
it is all in Spanish. So if your Spanish is not
great, use Google Translate on the web page and
you'll put in your information. The moment you
sign up for it, you're going to get a welcome
email from the Sounders. And in that email, there
will be a link to the email will say Bienvenido
a Vamos Sounders Club. And you're part of this.
Welcome to the Sounders Club. And, hey, there
are three games that you can join. The Cruz Azul,
Santos Laguna, Club Tijuana. Click here for your
tickets. When you click on that, it'll take you
to a link where you can choose which of the three
games you want to go to. It looks just like this.
oh yeah just like a regular old uh master page
yep but then when you click on it you choose
which zone you want the ticket in and then when
you choose because you can sit in the um the
the let's go sounders club you know which is
kind of the hawks nest area you can choose the
100 level on the corners of the 200 level corners
so you can choose different spots and your first
two tickets are free And if you want to add an
additional couple tickets, it'll be $15 a piece.
So if you have like four people that want to
go, you can do that. So it's really straightforward,
really simple, really easy to do. And so I highly,
highly recommend share that with people. Let's
get some new members of our community into the
Sounders games and show them why you're listening
to this podcast. you know why you love the sounders
so much yeah yeah totally and we're all in this
together maybe once they have the french version
i'll join uh you know you know what's interesting
is sounders beat kansas city on a day that i'm
watching psg on tv granted but play in a a cup
final And last time I went to see PSG play in
person, I was driving to Eugene listening to
the Sounders as I was headed to see PSG play
Inter Milan. And PSG Inter Milan was a great
match other than having to be inside that stadium
in Eugene with those Ducks fans. But that was
the Kansas City match versus Ziggy. They got
him for Ziggy. So it all comes in circles, I
guess. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah.
Join, join the club. Um, you know, my Spanish
used to be better just, I think living in California,
you're around it. So I could understand it. And,
and I mean, my background in French, I think
help because they're both similar languages,
a lot of roots. Yeah. So I can, I can get the
gist of certain things if people talk slower,
but yeah, I've been out of that. Life for 20
plus years. So I only know the basics like swearing
and cuss words. By the way, tomorrow, 7 a .m.
So before the time that this episode drops, Sounders
will be. releasing a new kit it appears um they're
even showing videos teasing a kit yeah you see
it you see it in the latest video you see those
nice shoes where they're skateboarding with the
shoes i i have there's a song in that though
that i know the song but i couldn't tell what
it was i i got a shazam it or something wait
in the in that video yeah yeah it's like i know
this song uh okay give me a second i'm not listening
it with the sound up so give me one second yeah
I was hoping it would come through the mic, but
that's all right. That, that, that anthemic thumping
with the piano chords. Honestly, I'm not sure
if it's an actual song or just some free use.
Nope. I know that song for sure. So we'll have
to figure that out, but it's a, it's a wonder
if it's something local from the nineties. That's
I wondered. Which I think leads us very well
into a question we had come from our Discord.
We pop over here to the mailbag. Do you have
any 90s Sounders memories, Nick? No, but I do
have some 90s soccer memories. Oh, being in Buffalo,
you didn't have any Sounders memories from the
90s? I did not. I did not. What was the Buffalo
MISL team called? That would be the Buffalo Blizzard.
Blizzard. I'm sure they played some cars at some
point. Rudy and Randy Pikazinski. They were MISL?
Yeah, they were the indoor soccer. All throughout
the 90s, they were leading the league in attendance
a lot of years, drawing quite well. So I was
going to those games in the late 80s, early 90s,
even before the 94 World Cup. Then the 94 World
Cup, my initial, you know, what I loved about
that was Tony Miola. Yeah. I mean, he was my
guy. That's incredible. He was the goalie? Yeah,
Tony Miola. Oh, no, he was not the Buffalo goalie,
but he was the U .S. I got to meet him outside
the stadium at the 2009 MLS Cup. Oh, cool. Well,
what was funny about Miola is at the time, like
I grew up in Buffalo, and my family were all
Bills fans. My first ever football game that
I watched on TV, my favorite color was green,
so I became a Jets fan. So the Jets were actually
my favorite team growing up, while the rest of
my family were Bills fans. So right after the
World Cup, Miola got a tryout to be a kicker
for the Jets, but he couldn't beat out Pat Leahy,
who was the kicker for the Jets back in the day.
uh old old old man right there yeah you know
what's interesting is the blizzard and the stars
had no overlap really yeah the the the stars
folded at the end of the 91 -92 season and the
blizzard started at the beginning of the 92 -93
season wow for some reason i thought the 80s
were involved but maybe maybe my brain's a little
fuzzy on that there could have been another uh
Possibly. Oh, the Buffalo Stallions. That was
the old NES. They played from 79 to 84 in the
MISL. Yeah, but I never saw the Stallions. We're
going to chalk that up to fuzzy memory. I'll
own it that I don't remember it exactly the way
I remember it. Yeah, but the owner also owned
the Buffalo Bisons. Uh -huh. Yep. Yeah, so Buffalo
has a good history with soccer. And they just
built, they're building an all -purpose, soccer
-purpose stadium for a USL team. The only problem
is the location of where they put it is like
right next to like a chemical plant. And so the
soccer fields, the adult rec league and children's
rec league soccer fields that are on that site,
there's been reports of some breathing problems
sometimes. Yeah, I've heard that there's, it's
basically on a, it's on a, super fun like poisonous
plant yeah yeah so yeah a lot of people that
i know they're from the area were pretty bummed
out by that yeah so which is a bummer because
because there are other places around buffalo
that well here's hoping it seems to be a somewhat
smaller because i think at their usl Not the
main one, not USL 2, so USL Championship, whatever
the hell they're calling their middle division.
So I think they're shooting for like a 5 ,000
to 7 ,000 seat place. So, you know, hopefully
they could show proof of concept and grow from
there. Yeah, I did find an interesting fact here,
though. Ralph Black, who's a Scottish -American
retired soccer defender, these are the teams
that he played for. Started at the Denver Avalanche,
which was indoor. Then Baltimore Blast and Tacoma
Stars. Then went and played outdoor for the San
Jose Earthquakes and the Seattle Storm. Then
indoor for the San Diego Sockers and the Tacoma
Stars. Then outdoor for the Tampa Bay Rowdies.
Then indoor for the Buffalo Blizzard, Anaheim
Splash, Seattle Seadogs, Portland Pride, and
Portland Pythons. And then he managed the Pythons
for those years. That sounds like a precky level
of... Yeah, you know, I mean, that's that's what
it was. You got to remember the 80s, the 80s
and 90s. It was, you know, journeymen who loved
the game. And like, I can go travel this country
and play soccer kind of, you know, almost like
almost like being in a band. You know, you're
maybe working a second part time job, kind of
making it work, but living with a couple of guys
on the team. And just getting a place real cheap
together and just making it work. You're in your
20s. You're going. And a lot of times the thing
that gets them to retire is, oh, I got married
and have a kid. Yeah. I mean, the coach for the
Seadogs, I was just looking them up because I
know my sister's friend, his dad coached for
a little bit. But the first two years when they
were really poor was. Fernando Clavijo, who played
for the New York Apollos, the New York Arrows,
the Golden Bay Earthquakes, the San Diego Soccers,
the Los Angeles Lasers, and the St. Louis Storm,
but went on to coach the St. Louis Storm, Seattle
Seadogs, Florida Thundercats, Nigeria assistant.
He was the U .S. futsal coach, MetroStars assistant,
New England Revolution head coach, Haiti head
coach, Rapids head coach, and Miami FC head coach.
So early on in his career. uh coaching seattle
sea dogs and went on to be pretty high level
coach in the united states that's fun that's
awesome i love the misl days i used to go down
and watch tacoma stars down all the time at the
tacoma dome yeah i'm a little disappointed tacoma
stars um last season uh roma won a uh star wars
night costume contest, and they were going to
give us a suite for the next game, and they never
followed up with me. Oh, gosh. And then I was
just like, I should have just reached out and
been like, hey, what's going on? And they just
ghosted me. Maybe do it now, because it would
be fun for her, I think. Yeah, I might just follow
up at some point. At some point, I'm going to
interact with someone in the front office there,
and I'll bring it to their attention. i don't
know it's just yeah anyways um so my memories
uh are late 90s i mean in high school i used
to go to matches uh i actually fully jersey from
the 1998 us isla league team um i don't remember
the 94 -95 championships i was in high school
and they just weren't they weren't as relevant
in seattle at that time because you got to remember
The Mariners and the Huskies were so good that
I think it was hard. And the Huskies just went
on probation, but still were great in those years,
Husky football. And the Mariners, 94, they were
in first place for a long time. And then there
was the lockout and the 95, of course, the first
time ever making the playoffs. I think the Seahawks
might've made the playoffs one of those years.
I'd have to think about that again, but, um,
they were, those were fun teams at least the,
with amazing defenses. Yeah. So, um, yeah, Seahawks
were eight and eight and 95 with Dennis Erickson
as coach. Uh, Ooh, but, uh, yeah, no, I mean,
it, it was a, a fun team. They drafted Joey Galloway,
Christian for you that year. And, uh, They had
just Rick Meyer, John Freeze, and Stan Gelbach
at quarterback. Did you say Stan Gelbach? Yeah,
Stan Gelbach, yeah. Oh, my God. I haven't thought
about him in a long time. But they had Sam Adams,
Cortez Kennedy, Michael McCrary, Joe Nash, Michael
Sinclair as their defensive line, which is pretty
incredible. And then some amazing Seahawks linebackers
like Terry Wooden, defensive backs. like Carlton
Gray and Eugene Robinson. I mean, it was just
a fun team. Todd Peterson was our kicker. Rick
Tootin was our punter. I think they had Carl
Esther Crumpler. Rootin Tootin. He was a former
Bills punter. Oh, yeah. Rootin Tootin. I think
he started with the Bills. That seems right.
I know he was there. Yeah, I just found him.
He played for the Bills, I guess, his second
year in the league. He was on the preseason roster
of the Chargers and Redskins and then Eagles,
Bills, Packers, and then finally locked in with
the Seahawks in 91. Finished with the Rams. Good
old Rootin' Tootin'. Rick Tootin'. But yeah,
I mean, we all were aware of the Sounders, but
it, oh, Rick Tootin' unexpectedly died at the
age of 52 while on vacation in Costa Rica in
2017. Damn. Oh, man. That's a bummer. uh belated
death watch rootin tootin oh he was no he was
part of the 83 miami hurricanes national champion
team the st louis rams super bowl 34 champions
and he was on the seahawks 35 year anniversary
team uh that's as all -time punter i think he's
since been surpassed some member berries for
sure yeah um but yeah so i don't late 90s just
going to matches uh fun times at Memorial Stadium.
That's mainly, I have more fond memories of MISL
days because I was younger, right? When I was
a kid. Yeah. In 98, I was like a junior in high
school, senior in high school. So that ball right
there that I'm pointing to, I found that at a
Goodwill for a dollar. Nice. And that is a team
signed USL era Sounders ball. wow that yeah i
just kind of was was looking around for something
for roma and it was underneath one of those wire
speed racks it was on the ground it like rolled
underneath i'm like what's that i grab it i'm
like are you kidding me just like perfect kismet
for me to even see it down there to grab it and
then to see what it was i was like oh this is
cool yeah totally um It's fun to look at the
names of the people on that team. You know, 95,
Peter Hattrop and Chance Fry were the big stars.
They're both still around. That was one of Marcus's
first seasons, wasn't it? Yeah. Chance Fry was
my, I have his jersey from one of those years.
So actually it probably fits again. I should
try that. I've lost so much weight. 96, Jason
Farrell. Was the top scorer. Former Ballard FC
head coach. Now Seattle U head coach. Mark Baina.
I don't remember Greg Howe was in 2000, but Leighton
O 'Brien, Brian Chang. Whatever happened to Welton
Mello? Cam Weaver, Sebastian Latu. Jesus. I mean,
there's some fun names that came through those
Sounders. Those ended the 2000s, but those Sounders
teams. Whatever happened to this Welton guy?
He finished his career in Seattle. He played
as a youth at Fluminense and Flamingo, and then
the New England Revolution, the LA Galaxy, Miami
Fusion, and then eventually started slowing down
a bit. But that's fun. That's awesome. Good memories.
Let's see. Do we have any other stuff? What do
the Sounders have to do differently to start
being more effective on set pieces? What do you
think the reason is for our struggles this season
compared to last season? Ask Sal Diaz. That's
a good question. I think that set pieces have
been a little tricky for us. I think Andy Rose
is the one who's managing a lot of the set piece
stuff. My question would be, I'm assuming...
He's talking about defensively? Because I don't
feel like last season we were particularly effective
on set pieces offensively either. But defensively,
it feels like we just... I don't know. I often
wonder with set pieces how much of it is just
truly chance and how much of it is you can coach
it up and change that up. So when you're looking
at that, I think that the Sounders historically
have never been super dominant in set pieces.
I know back in the day, there were seasons where
Chad Marshall would be the golden boot leader
for the team for the first quarter of the season
because you get like four or five goals in the
beginning of the season on set pieces. It does
give me some serious wandering eye when I look
at some other teams and see them doing great
stuff, but I just can't tell what they're doing
differently than what we're doing. It's just
the eye test. I don't have that institutional
knowledge of, oh, he's doing this, or like a
basketball pick play or something like that.
I know the... one of the fun things that I love
doing in my seats with ECS is on corner kicks.
I love not just watching the ball as it's being
kicked in on corner kicks. I love watching the
actual battles in front of the net on those corner
kicks. But, yeah, so I know it's a little bit
of a long -winded answer. No, it's good. But
what about you, Cameron? What do you think on
that? It feels like a couple things. In the past,
we used to be able to get it over the heads of
the defenders, and we haven't been doing that
as well. And in the past, we had big defenders
who could head the ball, and not having Jordan
has prevented that because he did it at times.
surprisingly Reagan hasn't stepped up and we
need Chad Marshall to come in and help train
that. That's where I think he sits. Well, it's
like we were just talking about a second ago
with Chad Marshall being, you know, golden boot
leader at the beginning of seasons, you know,
from his set piece prowess. I mean, I think that's
it. So yeah, I, it's frustrating, but you know,
it's something we usually get a lot of in the
past, a lot of corners and stuff, but I don't
know how you fix it. That's something that I
know Brian thinks a lot about. And I think he
thinks especially a lot about the other side
of that, giving up goals on set pieces rather
than scoring goals. Yeah. Because it's these
little errors that we tend to make as a team,
individual errors that cause those goals where
everyone else does what they need to do. And
so you just need everyone to do it right. So
I think they probably focus more on that, but
I'm sure they do both at practice. I think the
only other question, oh, we had one from Dan
come in. When Yamar is back, considering Nuhu
struggles, do you see Reagan, Yamar, and Alex
as the back three? Well, one of that's going
to presume that we're going to that formation.
Yeah, I don't, I think, I mean, I want to see
KKR on the field, you know, every time we can.
I think he's proven why he's dangerous. uh he
missed was it his most recent game he missed
because of the red card now i get them all confused
he got the red card the game before last yeah
because we're now four games straight with the
red card let's stop that yeah well i was even
saying in the in the in the chat like okay well
can we can we please go again like before the
red card happened like can we please go games
without a red card and i jinxed it because i'm
a jackass nah i i'm just yeah i i think I mean,
they're going to deal with it internally. That's
what he said. By the way, so with Kalani, he's
having himself two goals, two assists in 13 matches.
815 minutes. You're not getting that normally
out of... out of the back position, the right
back, left back positions. At least the Sounders
haven't been getting that kind of production.
Not for a long time. Yeah, and so big shout -out
to him just kind of giving the club things to
look at. I mean, what I love from him is multiple
times we're seeing him put the ball on his shoulders
and just... Say, fuck it. I'm going for it. That's
how he scored his first goal against LAFC. That's
how he scored an Open Cup. That's last year.
That's how he's making that cut to the inside
two weeks ago. Yeah, that's tantalizing. That's
going to make the coaching staff go, hell yeah.
It's making it... It's harder to keep him off
the field, but Alex Roldan's a really good player.
I really like what Alex brings. I think he's
doing great at center back, and I also think
we're not going to see Yamar coming back as a
full -time starter. I mean, I think he was already
aging before these two injuries, and I'm hopeful
he can. I think he's going to be a start two
out of every three games, so I think there leaves
a lot of room. It's like in three -game weeks,
you're saying? Yeah. No, I mean in general. But
in a three -game week, I think we might only
see him one time. So I could see Alex getting
some center back starts there alongside Reagan,
especially with Stu Hawkins, as far as I know,
still hurt. Thankfully, we have a lot of depth
at center back because we have a lot of injuries
there right now. Yeah. But, I mean, I think Alex
has moved himself ahead of Stu. the depth chart
for center back at this point. And it's fun to
see both of KKR and Alex on the field together.
Especially, I mean, I love Alex and he does not
play on the right like he used to in terms of
getting assists and stuff like that. So I think
if we're going to have a player on the left who
is not able to move forward offensively in a
meaningful way to score goals and... the the
team has made clear they prefer him to stay back
uh we need someone on the right who can push
forward in that way and and kkr can do it better
than anyone on the team right now yeah um i do
want to just caution and we do this all the time
it's what we do is is we always get super excited
about the new shiny shiny and and kind of look
at them in a um overly optimistic lens instead
of looking at the reality because he's definitely
a liability defensively at times um and so his
offensive ceiling is really high compared to
say alex but his floor is much lower defensively
than alex like i don't see and it's just it's
just a trade -off yeah but i also think He's
no more of a liability at right back than knew
who is at left back when knew who goes forward.
That's the caveat. And he's going forward, right?
I think they're both liabilities when they go
forward because they're not DeAndre Yedlin. KKR
is fast. But DeAndre Yedlin, you could see, could
go all the way forward. I mean, he played on
the national team. He's a level of a different
player. I hope one day he comes home for the
end of his career, but we'll see. I think he's
in Cincinnati now. From Miami to Cincinnati,
yes, I think he's still in Cincinnati. I mean,
he's 22 matches, four assists, four yellow cards
for Cincinnati this year. That's pretty good.
Love those numbers. Yeah. Did you end up going
to the Saturday's football pop -up shop this
week? I did not. I was supposed to – I marked
– I followed them on Instagram so I'd learn more
about it. It was fun. It was cool. And then I
totally forgot about it because it didn't pop
up again. I was really weirded out though because
when they showed the ad, they showed San Jose,
Japantown. uh in the ad like people lining up
and it had like kogura gifts which is my friend's
uncle well i i know i know japan down in san
jose i used to go karaoke bar hopping there oh
sure bamboo seven bamboo seven bamboo i i have
video of me at seven bamboo that's the best place
yeah yeah i used to host it a lot but that's
awesome but yeah uh you know that that was his
uncle's store and then his dad who sadly uh passed
away uh last month but they had uh uh nikaku
japanese arts and imports um and he used to run
the little video store and art bookstore down
below so uh yeah shout out to tyler uh it was
cool to see his family's buildings there in in
the ad for them coming to seattle because they
must have been in san jose recently yeah so so
the pop -up was really fun it was at um the friend
museum which is a cool little shop down in pioneer
square i'm so bummed i missed it i was really
excited and then i just never saw it again it
just it just was perfect timing uh didn't i didn't
i text you a heads up that i was heading over
i don't think so i thought i thought i shot you
did and you're like oh i can't make it maybe
i i don't know and maybe anyways you can read
it that i was just um but but what was really
cool about it is it was definitely a um it was
fun to just randomly browse through and see jerseys
from all over the world you know seeing some
you know, some, just some fun, fun kit design,
some old kits. Um, matter of fact, it inspired
me to start busting out some of my old kits.
Like earlier today I was wearing my, my AS Roma
Francesco Totti Jersey. Um, but, but yeah, just,
uh, just, uh, really cool, cool stuff. Uh, one
of our listeners, uh, Bryson ran into, um, paul
areola there and when he when he went down there
and areola convinced him to buy a hat that he
was on the fence about buying so so so yeah so
some good stuff there so tell me um yeah you
have an as roma jersey that was founded during
the rise of fascism in italy in 1927 with its
founder italo foshi being a member of the national
fascist party Why on earth would you root for
that team? Well, my wife lived in Rome, and we
went there on our one -year anniversary, and
so we wanted to take in an AS Roma game, which
she had done when she was living out there. Actually,
she lived in Rome on two separate occasions,
lived in Italy on two separate occasions. Yeah,
they aren't associated with it anymore. I know.
Some of their ultras. But some of the other teams
in Italy, you know. They actually have one of
the more diverse fan bases, which makes sense
being in Rome, right? But what was really fun
was at that time, this is 2017, so it was Totti's
last year, and he's known as the king of Rome.
He was a youth player, spent his whole career
there. It was the last full 90 that he ever went
to. We didn't know it at the time, but the game
we went to was his final full 90. Also playing
in that game for Roma was a young Mo Salah. So
got to see him. It was like a 5 -0 beatdown of
Atalanta. How long ago was this? 2017. Okay,
so before Rainieri was their manager. Who was
their manager? Wow, I should know this. Let's
see. Manager, manager, manager for that season
was Spalletti. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, but
Eden Dzeko was their leading goal scorer. But
they... Yeah, they had Tadi and Mo Salah, Al
Sharway. Yeah, just good stuff. It was just really
cool. You know what's interesting is apparently
when they formed, because they formed with three
clubs coming together, they wanted Lazio to join,
and they were like, no. Like another historic
club now, so how different it would have been
if they had. They currently sit at 10th in the
– fifa their uefa club coefficient rankings yeah
they're one of those teams uh almost like the
sounders where they're constantly in the running
but not always at the very very top yeah um they
did and they i i do i was joking about the fascism
but they did they did have um one of their uh
ultras groups did put up lyrics from a fascist
group uh linked to the far right of a 2007 song
this past season and a 401 and the team got fined
for it so uh which sucks that you know you're
finding the team in that situation rather than
punishing those fans but uh what is interesting
about it is the lyrics themselves i'll stay on
this road as long as my legs can hold me it's
with this heart and this face that i've grown
up don't seem seem of themselves like fine and
that's probably why they chose them because they
uh happen to come from this band is the real
reason they chose them so uh but that's a that's
a that's not an uncommon problem in italian football
that's that is a major problem there uh in a
country that literally started fascism well i
mean unfortunately i mean well it always makes
me laugh When people say keep politics out of
sports, like, especially when talking about soccer,
like, okay, wait, it's going to stop right there.
Soccer is politics. It's, it's, it's the currency
for the masses in a lot of ways. Just like who's
president in the United States changes how fast
we're going to be able to. And if we're going
to be able to get visas for players, we're trying
to sign. Yeah. But I mean, we're also talking
about just, just straight up. uh you know soccer
firms and and supporter groups and ultras um
literally shape policy in those cities and districts
yeah oh there's a uh fantastic book uh that came
out i want to is it 12 13 i should know the name
of this book um i haven't read it yet but i've
seen a bunch of interviews with the author uh
and i uh i'll have to figure out what it was
but there's one about how like in some of these
eastern european countries when they uh like
in ukraine for example or uh when they overthrew
the government way back when and made it into
the current government uh they were there were
like nationalist ultras who were out there and
they'd run it like military campaigns because
they'd been trained that way and that that happens
throughout your eastern europe Yeah, and in Russia
too, we've seen it. Well, you'd see some problematic
issues with some Ultras and really good... I
went down a really good rabbit hole about the...
Oh, what was it? The 2021... The 2021 Copa Libertadores
between Boca and River Plate that got postponed
and then... Eventually they ended up having it
in Spain or Portugal because just, yeah. It's
just really cool stuff. 1312 Among the Ultras,
A Journey with the World's Most Extreme Fans
by James Montague. Okay. Maybe we should link
that or post that into the Discord. I'd be very
curious for the episode notes. Would be very
interested to learn more about that. yeah i will
do that for sure i i actually i can give you
a copy i'll bring one to the game tomorrow i
assume you'll be there i will i will yeah i have
two copies i accidentally ordered two when i
got them so i might be i might be looking for
a third ticket because i think bernie may end
up going so i might have to try and find out
i had to buy two extra because i had to get one
for uh your cousin or your nephew right but i
will say uh It helped that I totally forgot that
I had returned tickets, and so I got to use my
return credit to buy new tickets without having
to spend any money. So that was a benefit that
we get from the Sounders. It's super fun. Very
much so. Speaking of the Sounders and speaking
of benefits, let's talk about tomorrow's game.
Yeah. Almost later today's game in the very near
future, where we're closing it on midnight, which
sounds about par for the course for us. Play
in Colorado. Colorado is a... in Major League
Soccer. They come from Colorado. Yeah. Not just
a clever name. No, but Colorado has been interesting
this year. They are coming off a big victory,
3 -0 against Vancouver, who are free -falling.
Thank you. But it's interesting. You get a 3
-0 victory against Vancouver. You're feeling
good. Your previous game before that, you lost
3 -0 to LAFC. Then you lost the sport in Kansas
City, 2 -1. So they're kind of hit and miss.
Of course, Colorado is where we sent... Oh, my
God. Danny? No. Well, we sent Danny to loan,
but... Oh, Atencio. Atencio, thank you. Yeah,
we sent Danny to loan a couple years ago, but
Atencio's been there. He's been playing a good
amount, has not been starting every game, but
he's been getting a good minutes. Unfortunately
for Colorado, some of the guys they brought back
from Europe have not looked as good since they've
come back, like Reggie Cannon, who I kind of
have a... hate relationship with which is too
bad that new who got the red card because reggie
cannon hates new who yeah yeah absolutely hates
new who so it's always fun watching them battle
um because he's on the right there on the left
so so oftentimes it'd be some really interesting
stuff i always look forward to that so unfortunately
we will not see that tomorrow um Jordy Mihaljevic
is kind of their leading scorer. Consistently
their best player. Yeah. They've got Rafael Navarro
from Brazil, striker, who's got himself eight
goals this season in 20 matches. So he's getting
some stuff there. And they still have Zach Steffen
in goal. They brought him back. Overall, don't
know what to expect from this team. This is a
team that is kind of hovering right around the
7 -8 -9 slot. They're currently in seventh, but
they've also got 23 games played, so they're
leading the Western Conference in games played.
Everyone else has less games than Colorado Rapids.
So we have two games in hand and four points
on them. Yeah. So just for context, I mean, they've
been playing better, but they, they were having
some rough, rough games in the past. So it'll
be interesting to see how it goes. I wonder how
much the weather is going to play into this.
Now, if you're going to the game, you're hearing
this the day of please, please, please drink
a lot of water, bring sunscreen at kickoff. Oh,
God. It's going to be 87 degrees. I am just seeing
that now. So if you like, I have to be down there
quite early and it's going to be 92 degrees when
I get down there. So it is going to be a miserable
day. Get lots of water, you know, get shade,
bring hats, wear sunscreen. it could very well
affect the play on the field too. Because if
it's that hot, if it's 87 degrees outside, it's
going to be 97 on the field at least. It gets
hot down there. I don't know. I remember I shot
a game as a photographer versus Royal Salt Lake
one time, and you could see the heat coming off
the turf. Like all of the pictures were a little
bit grainy because of the heat waves. Yeah. So
yeah, stay. Stay warm. I mean, cool. Because
it's going to be, it's going to suck. Not looking
forward to that. At least the air quality will
be good tomorrow because the next day they're
saying the fires start moving in and we're going
to get some smoke. So yeah, it's going to be
a rough week. So what do you expect to see tomorrow?
I mean, I think this is a game the Sounders should
win. I think we're going to see at least 45,
maybe 60 out of Jordan and hopefully some goals.
How much rotation do you expect to see from our
offensive parts of our starting 11? I would hope
that we would see Kent on the right and De La
Vega on the left just to give them some minutes
in a midweek game and then maybe go back. depending
on how players play, on the weekend against San
Jose in the big Heritage Cup match that'll determine
who gets the trophy. So obviously a much bigger
game than this one, but both are big games because
they're right there in the standings with us,
Colorado. I mean, I know you said we're four
points clear with two games in hand, but you
lose a match and they were one point clear. Well,
it's a six -point game regardless, whether or
not, yeah. Yeah, so it gives us a huge chance
to jump up, especially when Vancouver has been
failing, because ultimately, do I think we're
going to catch San Diego? No, but I think if
we can get that two spot, we're set throughout
the playoffs and can beat San Diego in the playoffs.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, with that, he ended up being
a midweek game. It's kind of catch 22. I mean,
we're going to be at home. I feel like this is
the kind of game where we may come across and
come out firing. I hope so. Because I don't think
anyone on the team feels really good about that
second half where it's almost like we're coming
back from a loss. So I think a lot of members
of the team want to prove themselves from that.
Interestingly enough, though, for Colorado, it's
a midweek game for them. But they don't play
again for 10 days because they've had all those
games. They've got a big break. So there's a
very real chance that they have nothing to lose
about putting in the kitchen sink at this game.
So I'm very curious to see how they show up and
how they line up. Yeah. I would assume they're
going to play all their starters, the same ones
who just stuck it to Vancouver. And we just,
I mean, we know. I hope so. Because, I mean,
a lot of times they do. People do like putting
in their, you know, players against their former
team. You know, they sometimes get that. Any
word on, I assume they're going to get Fry another
week off? Yeah, I haven't heard anything. I'm
sure Schmetzer talked about it with Jackson and
Dick on KGR today when he was on, but I didn't
hear the whole show. I just saw the highlights
from Jackson. When was that match he got hurt
in? Was that a week ago? That was six days ago.
It was Sunday, not Saturday, right? So I don't
think it's enough time to clear that. the concussion
protocol. Oh no, it was the previous week. So
yeah, it is enough time. I would be surprised
though. I mean, I think that would be something
we would hear. I think the club feels confident
in Andrew Thomas and nothing I saw from his performance
against Kansas city would dispel that. Yeah.
I mean, he, he had a pretty great game and ultimately
I think what his big thing is how he manages
the back line and, and. Can he come up to par
with how it's done from Fry? I mean, Fry, Sounders
legend, right? Yeah. So do you want to give a
prediction? Yeah, I'm going to go 2 -1 Seattle.
Okay. I am going to say that the Sounders, I
think Andy Thomas is going to get a shutout.
I think the team is going to. play strong defensively.
I'm very curious. Do you think that our starting
four up top is going to be Jordan, Paul, Jesus,
and Albert? Or do you think we're going to see
some time from Kent? Yeah, that's my hope. Kent
De La Vega on the wings. I mean, if you want
Jesus, throw him over there at the 10, which
hasn't been his best position this year. Or throw
De La Vega there. But I think De La Vega on the
left is where we've seen him have a lot of success
this season, especially his goal against Cruz
Azul, which should have counted. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm curious to see how this goes. I wonder if
because it's a three -game week, if we look back
to what we were doing at the beginning of the
season where we were giving multiple changes
at halftime. Yeah. I mean, I think we'll see
that anyways, no matter, depending on how teams
are playing, I suppose. Yeah. But I guess I'm
going to go with, I'm going to say 2 -0 Sounders.
Nice. And, yeah. I think that's that I'm going
to go with. I think Andy Thomas is going to get
it done. I do think we're going to come out firing
and we're going to have a good first half. But
I think we're going to get our second goal. I
think we're going to get our second goal before
we start making major subs. So before the 65th
minute and then just kind of see the game out.
All right. I like it. I like it. It'd be fun.
I mean, we need another multi -goal game, in
my opinion, just to keep everything going. So
I'm in favor of it. I don't think we're coming
out of there with a 1 -0 victory. You obviously
think we could, but I still think with Andy Thomas
at the back, he's got to earn it, right? Well,
we've been averaging two goals a game since Club
World Cup. And it shows that I think we're a
better team since Club World Cup. it shows yeah
i mean that first half last week against kansas
city i just felt like the way we were passing
looked like what some of those teams were doing
to us looked like what leddy was doing to us
looked like what psg was doing as we're just
taking it to kansas city they didn't know what
the to do it was really fun to watch i like that
yeah i'd like to see more of it um and i think
the The expected goals against Columbus back
up that, too, that we were very dangerous despite
coming away with a draw in that last home match.
Well, yeah, I mean, the Columbus game, our expected
goals was 168 on eight total shots. You know,
two on target, we're still getting that expected
goal, so we're creating some really dangerous
chances from the chances that we had. So I'd
like to see that continue for sure. But we'll
see. I mean, it's going to be interesting. Well,
you're clearly falling asleep here. So I think
maybe it's time to go. You've been up all day,
though, so it makes sense. You know, why not?
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