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It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes

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from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest

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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,

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your moment. Hello and welcome to another episode

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of Scuttlebutt Ultras here. Part of the Sounders

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Scuttlebutt Network, I'm Cameron Collins. I am

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here with Your Ultras, the group of gentlemen

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who are here every week for you to break down

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what's going on with the Sounders in their own

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unique way. We're going to start just randomly

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in the bottom right corner. What's up, Dan? How

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are you doing? Hey, what's going on? I'm hoping

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somebody can explain to me why I woke up this

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morning feeling like we lost yesterday. So maybe

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we can get to that by the end. Middle fingers

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up to everybody. Cedar, how are you doing today?

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Everything's good. Happy to be back talking this

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game. Yeah, I will echo Dan's sentiments. I actually

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haven't seen the video, but I heard it was the

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saddest, most somber Jingle Bells of all time.

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It came up and I moved along because I wasn't

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feeling it. We do have the man of two names always,

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Alex Diaz. Hey, how's it going? How you doing,

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Alex? I mean, I'm probably on the same boat as

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everybody here. I think we... Yeah, we'll find

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out. I'm interested to see how hot the takes

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are. 12 plus almost 24, about 22 hours removed

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from the end of the match as we are actually

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recording before the regular Scuttlebutt show

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this week because... We often record on Monday

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nights, but I think that might be a regular thing

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because we might have a little bit of a cadence

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down here now that we have a bunch of games coming

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up recording here on Sunday nights, a night of

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the Club World Cup final where Chelsea shockingly

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came out and destroyed PSG. Who's got thoughts

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on that surprising outcome? I'm pretty sure we

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all said that Chelsea was going to win, so we

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could probably just move on and not bring it

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up anymore. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, I mean, as a

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Chelsea supporter for 30 years and a PSG supporter

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for 25, I was as shocked as everyone. Of course,

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Cole Palmer did Cole Palmer things, but you wouldn't

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think that a young Chelsea team could just take

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out a young PSG team like that, one who had been

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gelling really well together. All right, let's

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talk Sounders. Let's just go. Let's just go into

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it. It helps to have superstars, I think. Cole

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Palmer scoring twice. Messi scoring twice. The

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Sounders, do we have a superstar back in our

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midst as Jordan Morris gets a start and, of course,

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scores a goal on a beautiful assist from Paul

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Rothrock. Where are we at, Dan? What do you think

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about Jordan Morris' return to the starting lineup?

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Yeah, 15 minutes in and he had already put it

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in the back of the net. And I was watching the

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game with my kiddo, Joe, and I just could not

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remember, and I just didn't have the bandwidth

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to go look it up. But when is the last time we

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scored a goal off of a Seattle Sounders head?

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I feel like it's been a while. And besides his

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speed, that's something else he brings, is the

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ability to take in a high cross and put it in

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the back of the net with some force. That came

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off of his head fast. He might have had one in

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the Club World Cup, but... It's been a while.

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But that was off a deflection. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But it's, you know, definitely something to see,

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Alex. What did you think about Jordan's return

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to the starting lineup? Only 45 minutes, but

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a pretty good shift considering what we saw.

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Oh, yeah. I think it was great for him to get

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on the score sheet. Like, that was basically,

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like, his on -back moment. Like, this is why

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I'm the DP. And it was a beautiful cross from

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Rothrock, and it was just... That header, all

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you have to do is put it on frame, put it anywhere

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on the side. As long as you don't hit it straight

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at the goalie, it's going in. Nine times out

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of ten. Yeah, we saw Rusnak have a shot that

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nine times out of ten is going in, and the defender

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beat the goalie, and the defender stopped it

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a little bit after that. But, yeah, I was pretty

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happy about that. Cedar Morris is back. Did you

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see what you wanted to see out of him, especially

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at the number nine? Yeah, he was stretching the

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field. He's a little bit, you know, obviously

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he's a little bit bigger than Masovsky. He provides

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that physical presence that maybe Masovsky doesn't

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quite have. And he was dropping into the midfield,

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collecting balls, distributing as well. He's

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good at that. We all know this. And man, yeah,

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I wish he could have kept on the field there,

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but he looked so, when they went to halftime.

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they cut to him and his face was so red. Like

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he was, he was totally winded. So he's still

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ramping back up, but yeah, it's great to see

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him. Let's see everything click right away with

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him back on the field. I got to say, I don't

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know how he does it as I have type two diabetes,

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which is in remission because I got diagnosed

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and immediately did everything I needed to do

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within a year to make my A1C and everything get

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down to levels where it doesn't really affect

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me. because I take my medicine every day. But

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Jordan having type one diabetes, just the fatigue

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I feel alone. I can't imagine being an athlete

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and running that much and then having to deal

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with, you've seen tons of baseball players, especially

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that in the way it can affect them. So being

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a soccer player, it's gotta be pretty draining.

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It's impressive. Yeah, absolutely. So could Jordan

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be the answer to what we need? I mean, We haven't

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been scoring goals. I don't remember which one

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of you mentioned it, but we were expecting goals

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in this match. We got three all in the first

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half. It almost felt like a tale of two halves,

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though, where the second half was just holding

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on. Took our foot off the gas. Partially, Danny

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Mazovsky had a rough second half, including what

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Sounders fans were complaining about. But upon

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replay, it seemed like a pretty clear penalty

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on Danny, taking out the guy's lower leg. The

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other one is a little more questionable in my

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opinion, but I don't know. How are we feeling

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about the team with Jordan up top just in general?

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Is this something you think is sustainable, three

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goal games and something the Sounders will now

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be able to do regularly and help out the defense

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a bit? Take it away anyway. No, I don't think

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that we're going to see three goal games all

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the time. I think the two -game goals are going

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to be more common instead of the one -game goals.

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I think that could help. But I still have a concern

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that with Morris on the field, you're taking

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Danny off. Previously, Danny's been the one scoring

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the goals. He's got six on the year, and we don't

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have two goal scorers on the field, even with

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just Morris. Maybe Rothrock can get it here and

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there. In this game, Jesus, he got his goal.

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It was a tap -in, but I was texting back and

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forth with some folks, and there were some chances

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earlier that Jesus just again kind of flubbed

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a little bit before he did get his goal. So I

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do not expect going forward that we're going

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to get three games more times than not. I would

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expect a little bit more of two games, but three

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is – I think that's asking a lot. So after last

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night, I should say, Rave Green TV noted that

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Danny has one goal in his last 11 games. And

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he's continued to be in the right position, it

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seems like, over and over again, but has not

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really been able to score. Do you think that

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that is a Danny problem, or is that an inability

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to get Danny? I mean, it seems like he is getting

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some dangerous position balls to him. Is he going

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to get those goals if he hasn't been able to

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do it without Jordan? Does it open up another

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path to him if we're playing two at the top?

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I don't know how often we're going to see two

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at the top, but I think it's a Danny problem.

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I think there's a reason that he is a career

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MLS backup, even with the position that he gets

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in. And we got our six goals out of him. He helped

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us through this patch, and so I definitely am

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grateful. for the services that he has provided,

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but I'm also extremely glad Jordan's back. I

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still want one more dead -eye dick, if you will,

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that's going to score some goals. Yeah, I know

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our colleagues over at Lobbing Scorchers talking

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about, I think it was earlier today or yesterday

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on their YouTube page, how NOAA Ohio doesn't

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want to leave because they only have one forward

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there. And so the Sounders are going to have

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to offer upwards of $10 -11 million to bring

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him in to the club, which doesn't seem like something

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the club is willing to do for a player that won't

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be starting unless they see him with a long future

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here. So what we have is what we're going to

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get, at least for the short term. I don't know,

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Cedar, what about you? How are you feeling with...

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How we're going to do moving forward with Jordan

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Morris coming back and hopefully playing more

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and more minutes every game. Yeah, I feel pretty

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good. I mean, it probably is a little reductive

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to say, but we scored three in the half that

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he was playing and we scored none in the half

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that he wasn't playing. So I think he just not

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only with the actual opportunities in the box,

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do I think he's, you know, probably a little

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bit. better than Masovsky, but also you see him

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again, drop into the midfield. You see him receive

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the ball, distribute it back out and then go

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find space. He's, he's really good at that. He's

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been doing it for years. So I think he, he just

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stretches, not only stretches the field vertically,

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but also is able to kind of almost be a, you

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know, a drop back into, to the, to the top of

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the box when we're in possession and help facilitate.

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more of an attack. So I'm, I'm, I'm excited to

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see him be back at full, full stamina because

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I think, I think he, he may be the missing piece

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for us scoring, you know, hopefully more than

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one goal game or any. Yeah. No, I think it's,

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it's good to see him back on the field because

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he offers. a different sort of attack than danny

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musovsky does like we're able to play him in

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through and behind he's able to run out defenders

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like you guys said earlier he's a big much bigger

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body than than danny and like you say i guess

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he's able to score headers now too you haven't

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seen that in a while and it's just I think he

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might be the missing piece to the formula that

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we need to be able to unlock defenses and score

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more goals. Was there anything else that happened

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during this game that might be worth discussing?

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Anything controversial or surprising? I mean,

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at this point, I'm not surprised by what happened.

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Surprising? Yeah. I don't think anything surprising

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happened. I think it was more so it was a matter

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of time until we saw it happen. Yeah. I mean,

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knew who receives a red card for throwing a ball

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at a fan. In our Discord, if you join the Discord,

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you see Nicholas posted the video. of him picking

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the ball up off the ball stand and just chucking

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it directly at the fan as hard as he could, according

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to Brian Schmetzer, for giving him the finger,

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which I think is also what he was trying to tell

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the ref in what has become one of the funniest

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pictures I have ever seen, which is the ref running

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at Nuhu and him just giving him the finger because

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he's trying to say, look what he did to me. What

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gives? Like, what is Nuhu doing here? They lazed.

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Well, I mean. Someone to go. Yeah. So on one

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hand, I get that what he did is he's probably

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going to suffer some consequences. The team may

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even suffer some consequences with him being

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absent because I still think he is the best to

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man that. left back position, especially if we're

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going to play with a three back. But I do, part

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of me, the, so my, I'm a real big fan of Loki

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and I really enjoy the, you know, I really, it's

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my background already. Him flipping the ref off

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is the background of my computer and part of

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me does enjoy it. The lizard part of my brain

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enjoys seeing New Who. act a fool and cause problems.

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I just hate that it is going to hurt the team

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in the long run. Alex, what do you think? I just

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don't even know what to say. I think as a professional

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athlete, or just a person in general, you shouldn't

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be reacting that way. Who knows? Maybe the fan

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crossed the line. You know you're going to go

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into places, hostile environments, where fans

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are going to try to heckle. And that's where

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you have to have a strong mentality and be able

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to not react. Because that's what they want.

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They want to get a reaction out of you. They

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want to throw you off your game. And as we've

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seen before, it's very easy to throw Nuhu off

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his game. There's a lot of examples of mental

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lapse where he did something that led to a goal,

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led to a card. And at this point, I'm not surprised

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that he did something. It was just like, Oh,

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what did he do this time? I feel like if it had

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been something more than just the finger Schmetzer,

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like if it had said something racist or something

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like that, because you know what? I'll be honest.

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I'm fully for going full Eric Cantona and kicking

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a fan in the head. If they say something racist,

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I don't have a problem with that. I would support

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new who in that instance, but you, you just can't

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let someone because go look at the replay of,

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Jordan Morris' goal. The entire crowd behind

00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:42.080
him is giving him the finger after he scores,

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if you watch that. It's insane. And he's not

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going over there and chucking balls at him. It's

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just, I mean, obviously a point of frustration.

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Cedar, where are you at on this? Yeah, I think,

00:15:54.700 --> 00:15:58.100
you know, you can't control other people's behavior,

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right? And especially if you're... I wouldn't

00:16:01.429 --> 00:16:03.289
know what it feels like to be a professional

00:16:03.289 --> 00:16:06.370
athlete and have people boo heckle you or, or,

00:16:06.389 --> 00:16:09.330
you know, throw the finger at you. But again,

00:16:09.470 --> 00:16:12.110
you, you can't control their behavior. All you

00:16:12.110 --> 00:16:14.389
can do is control your own behavior. And I think

00:16:14.389 --> 00:16:17.649
that, you know, it seems like the Sounders under

00:16:17.649 --> 00:16:21.049
Brian Schmetzer, he really, he really tries to

00:16:21.049 --> 00:16:24.669
set that standard that he, he got set upon him

00:16:24.669 --> 00:16:27.409
when he was a teenager, you know, at the club

00:16:27.409 --> 00:16:33.240
way back in the day. Of, you know, being a certain

00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.179
level of person in your conduct and being responsible.

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And I just don't see how Nuhu throwing a ball

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at a fan, which, you know, I mean, technically

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that's assault. It doesn't seem like that's not

00:16:50.700 --> 00:16:53.580
Sounders behavior. And, you know, he was away

00:16:53.580 --> 00:16:56.320
from the team too in that moment. The whole thing

00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.970
is just. It's unfortunate. That was weird. There

00:16:59.970 --> 00:17:02.429
was a couple sounders by him, but why were they

00:17:02.429 --> 00:17:05.470
way over there and not with the team? That was

00:17:05.470 --> 00:17:08.509
kind of weird. Right. It's like, dude, just focus

00:17:08.509 --> 00:17:11.750
on your team. Focus on the game. And it put us

00:17:11.750 --> 00:17:14.529
short staff for some really critical moments

00:17:14.529 --> 00:17:18.549
because Sporting KC had been putting us under

00:17:18.549 --> 00:17:21.390
pressure, and they were only down a goal. And

00:17:21.390 --> 00:17:23.789
then you take a man off the field, it makes it

00:17:23.789 --> 00:17:26.549
that much harder to close out. potentially a

00:17:26.549 --> 00:17:29.549
road win fortunately we did get it but it's just

00:17:29.549 --> 00:17:32.829
like oh man like what you know what are we doing

00:17:32.829 --> 00:17:35.710
what are we doing let's we gotta we gotta all

00:17:35.710 --> 00:17:38.029
behave as a team we gotta we gotta be together

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and and he was he was literally physically separate

00:17:41.529 --> 00:17:45.269
from everybody else and yeah it was it was disappointing

00:17:45.269 --> 00:17:48.769
to see um but hopefully hopefully it gets uh

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rectified and you know maybe he'll maybe he'll

00:17:53.340 --> 00:17:56.299
learn and not do it again i don't know but yeah

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it's it's uh it's frustrating for sure i was

00:17:59.619 --> 00:18:01.900
just watching footage of the brawl on the field

00:18:01.900 --> 00:18:04.839
at uh after at the club world cup final after

00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.559
the game ended where uh luis enrique the coach

00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.740
shoved gel pedro of chelsea because he was getting

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the face of uh dunorama dunorama and uh uh some

00:18:17.259 --> 00:18:20.660
other people but The way it went down, it looks

00:18:20.660 --> 00:18:24.259
like Luis Enrique. Yeah, he slapped him. He's

00:18:24.259 --> 00:18:28.740
been watching some slap boxing. Yeah, yeah. I

00:18:28.740 --> 00:18:31.400
can't imagine Schmetzer ever doing that, although

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there's probably some times I wish someone would

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have done that to a few opposing players. Yeah,

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I mean, what do you do with Nuhu at this point

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if you're Schmetzer? I mean, he said, we'll deal

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with it internally. See, the thing is, this isn't

00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:48.799
the first time. This isn't the second time. This

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isn't the third time. This isn't the fourth time.

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This is the seventh or eighth time that there's

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been NUHU issues of late over the last few years.

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And if you look at his whole career, even more.

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I know he doesn't have the support system that

00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:04.940
a lot of the other players have. He moved all

00:19:04.940 --> 00:19:09.319
the way across the world on his own. But it seems

00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:12.829
like... Because of that, and he feels like he's

00:19:12.829 --> 00:19:15.509
on his own, he's acting out in ways that aren't

00:19:15.509 --> 00:19:16.950
just going to not help the Sounders, aren't going

00:19:16.950 --> 00:19:20.069
to help his career. What's the next step for

00:19:20.069 --> 00:19:21.829
the Sounders here? What do you do if you're the

00:19:21.829 --> 00:19:26.119
coach? So since Jerry Epstein and Trump being

00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.359
on the client list is back in the news, I have

00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:32.839
a hot take or a conspiracy theory for everyone

00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:38.039
for the Sounders. And it goes like this. What

00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.799
we're seeing with New Who this year and last

00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:44.900
year in particular. So I think the team. I don't

00:19:44.900 --> 00:19:46.839
think anybody's going to disagree that with the

00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:49.940
fans, there has been some issues where maybe

00:19:49.940 --> 00:19:52.779
the vibes are down. That's whatever that means.

00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:54.960
I'm probably too old to be using that phrase,

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but I think the team itself is filling some of

00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:00.460
those vibe issues with the vibes being down.

00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.819
And I think new who here is the canary in the

00:20:03.819 --> 00:20:07.519
coal mine type of deal where. Every time we see

00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.460
this happen, it is where we're in a game state

00:20:10.460 --> 00:20:14.119
where things are pretty bad. In the Vancouver

00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:18.480
game, whenever he got that red card there, the

00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:23.759
diarrhea boys were taking it to us. So I think

00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:27.000
that what we're seeing with Nuhu is maybe a little

00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:28.799
bit of what's going on behind the scenes with

00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:31.640
some of the team. there because I know there

00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:34.299
was some discontent reported last year with Raul

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or Nuhu too and that just didn't clear up over

00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:39.240
the offseason so that's my conspiracy theory

00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:42.519
was zero evidence whatsoever except for my gut

00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:44.359
but hey that's good enough for Kash Patel so

00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:51.200
it's good enough for me Cedar where you at on

00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.039
this like what are you doing if you're Schmetzer

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or the GM or how do you handle this and this

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is a different type of issue than some of the

00:21:01.089 --> 00:21:03.930
other petulantness we've seen from him because

00:21:03.930 --> 00:21:07.829
this is violent conduct, not just an on -the

00:21:07.829 --> 00:21:11.190
-field play where you kick someone in a stupid

00:21:11.190 --> 00:21:14.970
position or something. Yeah, that's to me where

00:21:14.970 --> 00:21:18.470
I'm really disappointed because it's one thing

00:21:18.470 --> 00:21:22.250
to have a reckless challenge against a fellow

00:21:22.250 --> 00:21:27.390
sporting competitor, but I think to cross that

00:21:27.390 --> 00:21:32.859
line and deliberately throw a soccer ball at

00:21:32.859 --> 00:21:37.579
a fan. I don't know. I mean, I haven't, I don't

00:21:37.579 --> 00:21:41.920
recall seeing really any incident like that in

00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:44.920
MLS in the past few years, or if ever, I know

00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:47.619
there have been many incidents in world football

00:21:47.619 --> 00:21:50.799
for sure, but I can't remember seeing that in

00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:56.099
this league. Yeah. It's, it's to me, that's,

00:21:56.099 --> 00:21:59.299
that's just not. that's not okay that's not the

00:21:59.299 --> 00:22:01.839
kind of behavior that we want to see out of anybody

00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.900
and especially not one of our own players um

00:22:04.900 --> 00:22:09.400
as for how it gets dealt with i i would be the

00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:12.059
worst person to ask i have no idea what kind

00:22:12.059 --> 00:22:16.099
of um uh you know i don't know what kind of the

00:22:16.099 --> 00:22:19.500
the disciplinary kind of culture um a head coach

00:22:19.500 --> 00:22:24.680
would have to does actually cultivate in moments

00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:27.519
like that. But, you know, for the most part,

00:22:27.619 --> 00:22:31.500
I trust Brian in terms of how he runs the team.

00:22:31.579 --> 00:22:36.019
So I'm sure he's got his own ideas that he's

00:22:36.019 --> 00:22:38.900
probably already enacting. So, you know, other

00:22:38.900 --> 00:22:41.579
than that, it's, you know, if Nuhu gets suspended

00:22:41.579 --> 00:22:43.619
by the league, the team gets fine, Nuhu gets

00:22:43.619 --> 00:22:46.940
fine. I mean, it'll be next man up, obviously.

00:22:48.399 --> 00:22:50.980
I like Reed Baker Whiting. I like what he brings

00:22:50.980 --> 00:22:53.160
to the team. So I'm excited to see him get more

00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.960
playing time. And yeah, it's just unfortunate.

00:22:55.980 --> 00:23:00.599
I hope that New Who is able to get back into

00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.000
the good graces of the team and the fan base

00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:09.680
and be the best version of himself that we know

00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:11.720
he can be. I mean, we all know what his potential

00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:16.220
is. insane amounts of potential. And I think

00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:18.220
that's really the frustrating part too, is like,

00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:20.500
we know how great of a guy he is. We all like

00:23:20.500 --> 00:23:23.819
new who, and we all know how good of a soccer

00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:26.839
player he can be. And right now, you know, both

00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.960
are like, you know, and both are down, like clearly

00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.839
he's not in a good spot and it's tough to see

00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:37.200
somebody, you know, struggling with their mental

00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.039
health, emotional health, all of that. So it's,

00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.950
it's just like, all right, hopefully. He's able

00:23:42.950 --> 00:23:46.549
to get things right. And, you know, things will

00:23:46.549 --> 00:23:48.109
be better moving forward. That's what I would

00:23:48.109 --> 00:23:54.390
hope for. I mean, he's such a good player that

00:23:54.390 --> 00:23:57.849
you can't have a player of his caliber that is

00:23:57.849 --> 00:24:00.069
going to get kicked out of the game every other

00:24:00.069 --> 00:24:04.390
game. Right? Like, you need, it's better to have

00:24:04.390 --> 00:24:05.990
someone who's not as good if you know they're

00:24:05.990 --> 00:24:08.049
going to be able to play the entire time at this

00:24:08.049 --> 00:24:12.130
point. Alex. Contract ends at the end of this

00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:13.829
year. They have a club option for next year.

00:24:14.029 --> 00:24:15.769
Do you think this affects that at all? Do you

00:24:15.769 --> 00:24:18.130
think this is just a bump in the road? Or are

00:24:18.130 --> 00:24:19.650
the Sounders rethinking about what they're going

00:24:19.650 --> 00:24:21.410
to do moving forward here and whether they're

00:24:21.410 --> 00:24:23.549
going to exercise the club option on them for

00:24:23.549 --> 00:24:27.910
2026? I think it doesn't help his case for the

00:24:27.910 --> 00:24:31.130
club to exercise their option. I mean, if he's

00:24:31.130 --> 00:24:36.029
bringing bad publicity to the club, it tarnishes

00:24:36.029 --> 00:24:39.220
their reputation. It just, it isn't a good look.

00:24:39.339 --> 00:24:41.079
It isn't a good look for the club. It isn't a

00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:44.200
good look for the league. And apparently, I guess

00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:49.299
the fan is going to press charges on Nuhu. So

00:24:49.299 --> 00:24:53.460
it's just, I think the fan is going to press

00:24:53.460 --> 00:25:00.319
charges on Nuhu. That's what I heard. I mean,

00:25:00.339 --> 00:25:03.140
I'm sure he can because it is outside the bounds

00:25:03.140 --> 00:25:05.720
of playing the game, but goodness gracious, that

00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:09.240
just seems like a short -sighted thing to do.

00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:16.759
His response was over the top, but come on. You

00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.279
did something to provoke it, right? You're not

00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:23.279
innocent in this. I mean, sure, you did what

00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.339
the fan got under his skin enough. And like I

00:25:26.339 --> 00:25:28.380
said, if it comes out that something else was

00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:30.200
said and there was something else that happened,

00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.019
but I feel like Schmetzer would have said that

00:25:32.019 --> 00:25:33.779
first thing if that was the case, and we would

00:25:33.779 --> 00:25:35.539
have already got a notice from the league saying

00:25:35.539 --> 00:25:39.359
they're looking at an incident involving racism,

00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:40.599
because that's what we see when these things

00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:45.559
happen. And I think if Nuhu... Well, then can

00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:50.460
Roldan go back and retroactively charge their

00:25:50.460 --> 00:25:52.839
goalie for body slamming him? That was not a

00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:54.299
soccer move. It was during the games, though.

00:25:57.230 --> 00:25:59.369
So was this. Actually, the play was stopped.

00:25:59.569 --> 00:26:02.589
Wasn't it the VAR check? Or was it a cooling

00:26:02.589 --> 00:26:05.769
break? It was a penalty. No, it was a penalty.

00:26:05.910 --> 00:26:07.809
It was after the penalty. But yeah, I mean, it

00:26:07.809 --> 00:26:14.690
was still part of the game. Yeah, I guess we

00:26:14.690 --> 00:26:16.769
need those now. I don't know why the Kansas City

00:26:16.769 --> 00:26:19.150
fans are so mad. I mean, they love professional

00:26:19.150 --> 00:26:21.730
wrestling so much. This is straight out of...

00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:24.740
Something that you would see in WWE or wrestling

00:26:24.740 --> 00:26:30.940
now is some fan engagement and interaction. I

00:26:30.940 --> 00:26:33.059
just watched the video. The ball got thrown in

00:26:33.059 --> 00:26:35.200
the stands, bounced up in the air, and somebody

00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:40.440
behind him caught it. I mean, it's not fun to

00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.140
get hit in the head with the ball, right? I got

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:44.000
a concussion earlier this year, so I don't recommend

00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.519
it. But yeah, Cedar, what were you saying? Oh,

00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:52.380
I wasn't saying anything. Sorry. I'm not here

00:26:52.380 --> 00:26:56.960
to speak. What are you talking about? Yeah. I

00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.559
mean, so what do you think happens? Is this a

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:04.759
three -game ban and then, you know, he does whatever

00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:06.500
penance he needs to do behind the scenes and

00:27:06.500 --> 00:27:09.319
he's back out there? Is this Reed steals his

00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.200
job like we thought might happen if the PSG match

00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:13.920
hadn't fallen on his birthday? I don't know.

00:27:14.539 --> 00:27:17.660
Is this, you know? What happens here now? Isn't

00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:20.259
this new who's job or might he lose this? How

00:27:20.259 --> 00:27:21.819
does he go? How do you put him back on the pitch?

00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:24.259
Yeah, I agree with Dan. I don't, if I'm a coach,

00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:25.819
I'm not putting a player out there without a

00:27:25.819 --> 00:27:28.559
serious consequences. He's got to sit a few matches.

00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:34.299
I mean, Reed is, is out next match too, right?

00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:36.519
Since he got, didn't he get a second yellow in

00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.819
the match? No, did he just, no, he just got that.

00:27:38.859 --> 00:27:40.859
He didn't get it on the, that was last week.

00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:42.819
See, it's so hard to keep track with all the

00:27:42.819 --> 00:27:49.619
rest. That was AKR. Yeah. So who's going to get

00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:51.160
the next red card? Who are we putting money on?

00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.980
I mean, it's guaranteed at this point we're going

00:27:56.980 --> 00:27:58.819
to get one at least. Maybe not next match. I

00:27:58.819 --> 00:28:00.539
think Jackson will get the next one. I say Thomas.

00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:06.599
I think Jackson. Oh, I bet you Christian. I would

00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.180
say Christian. He's probably due. He got bailed

00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:12.180
out the last time. Well, how much are we putting

00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:15.529
on this? Because I'm excited now. I'll go with

00:28:15.529 --> 00:28:20.309
Thomas. So, hey, we all, you, Cedar's got Christian.

00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:25.509
And then who did you have? I got Jackson. Alex,

00:28:25.609 --> 00:28:28.410
you got Jackson? Okay, yeah. We put 10 on it.

00:28:28.430 --> 00:28:31.910
The winner walks out with the money. I like it.

00:28:32.049 --> 00:28:34.970
I like it. Honestly, I mean, Nicholas should

00:28:34.970 --> 00:28:38.619
put this. as you know one of the one of the categories

00:28:38.619 --> 00:28:41.079
in the will there be a red prediction yes like

00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:43.599
an over under on like yellow cards will there

00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:49.240
be a red yeah will there be a red you get a point

00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.140
you know if you're right i certainly was wrong

00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:54.259
with my one one prediction this week although

00:28:54.259 --> 00:29:02.019
i guess i took one one yeah I came on the show

00:29:02.019 --> 00:29:04.240
last week and was talking about it's going to

00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.519
be 3 -1, and then I put 1 -1 when I filled out

00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:10.359
my form. I was wrong both ways. It was 3 -2.

00:29:13.140 --> 00:29:18.000
I think, Dan, you were the closest, right? No,

00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:20.259
I don't know ball. I have no ball knowledge.

00:29:23.420 --> 00:29:26.519
I feel like with the Sounders, it's hard to tell.

00:29:26.619 --> 00:29:28.400
All right, let's finish up this match and then

00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.990
take a break here. 3 -2 seemed like a tale of

00:29:31.990 --> 00:29:33.650
two halves. Dominate the first half and just

00:29:33.650 --> 00:29:35.710
hold on in that second half. Of course, both

00:29:35.710 --> 00:29:38.710
goals were penalties. Did you see other goals

00:29:38.710 --> 00:29:41.789
coming for them? Or do you think that it was

00:29:41.789 --> 00:29:44.410
just tactical errors and the Sounders that led

00:29:44.410 --> 00:29:45.789
to those penalties and really we should have

00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:48.130
finished that game 3 -0? No, I mean, I want to

00:29:48.130 --> 00:29:50.950
give credit to Alex for his save that he had

00:29:50.950 --> 00:29:54.849
that he cramped right after. That save saved

00:29:54.849 --> 00:30:02.480
us two points. For sure. And it was awkward enough

00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.519
that you saw, was it Jovalich? One of those players

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.980
on the other team run up to him immediately and

00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:09.500
check on him because of how awkward it was. I

00:30:09.500 --> 00:30:10.839
was like, oh, don't tell me he did his knee.

00:30:11.019 --> 00:30:12.700
I was like, don't tell me he did something to

00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:16.180
his knee. It looked gnarly, but it was just like

00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:22.579
he saved it with the tip of his cleat. Well,

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:25.299
I've never seen somebody move their body like

00:30:25.299 --> 00:30:28.559
that. The way he did. I've never seen anybody

00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.440
do that. I think we can make the assumption that

00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.460
he's been going to yoga with his wife. Well,

00:30:36.579 --> 00:30:38.440
probably a lot of these guys do it. It's good

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.460
for you. Otherwise, you're going to break something.

00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.380
Not only did he save two points, he also saved

00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:48.200
the fan base from probably one of the largest

00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.339
crash outs. Could you imagine? how upset people

00:30:51.339 --> 00:30:54.599
would be if we drew that game at 3 -3. Being

00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.160
up 3 -0, I would have crashed down. It would

00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.779
have felt like that Mariners game where they

00:31:00.779 --> 00:31:04.119
blew it the other day when we were recording.

00:31:04.259 --> 00:31:07.480
It turns out that Munoz was tipping pitches and

00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.619
the Yankees figured that out, which is why they

00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:13.299
blew him up. That's typical Mariners. They start

00:31:13.299 --> 00:31:15.039
off good and then at the end of the game you

00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.369
look and they lost. They just destroyed Detroit

00:31:19.369 --> 00:31:24.809
three games since then. Yeah, we'll always lose

00:31:24.809 --> 00:31:28.869
to the Yankees, right? Except for 1995. And we'll

00:31:28.869 --> 00:31:32.269
play down to the really bad teams, but then somehow

00:31:32.269 --> 00:31:35.329
we'll beat the best team in baseball and look

00:31:35.329 --> 00:31:36.589
incredible. And then we'll get a rough patch.

00:31:37.309 --> 00:31:40.829
And then we're all crawling into the playoffs.

00:31:40.829 --> 00:31:45.180
Big shout out. To Cole Palmer, who Trump showed

00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:47.759
up to celebrate the championship with Chelsea,

00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.440
and then you see a video of Cole Palmer being

00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:52.599
like, why is Trump here? He's like, get this

00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:57.859
guy out of here. Yeah, basically. Why is Infantino

00:31:57.859 --> 00:32:03.339
trying to take him off when he didn't move? He's

00:32:03.339 --> 00:32:07.440
Trump. Hey, somebody let Trump take a free kick.

00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:09.799
Just let him kick the ball. I just want to see

00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.299
him kick the ball. He can't walk up airplane

00:32:11.299 --> 00:32:14.819
steps. He might get a hard attack. Hit a PK.

00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.059
Let's get him on the crossbar challenge at halftime.

00:32:21.579 --> 00:32:25.279
That is a tough one, hitting it off the crossbar.

00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:27.500
I will say that. I've always wanted to see him

00:32:27.500 --> 00:32:32.140
try to run five feet. He's going to say, I won't

00:32:32.140 --> 00:32:38.750
run five feet, but I'll run for office. So one

00:32:38.750 --> 00:32:41.150
last thing. I kind of had questions for everybody

00:32:41.150 --> 00:32:43.170
else about this game. Something that I picked

00:32:43.170 --> 00:32:45.230
up on and I was thinking, and so I was wondering,

00:32:45.269 --> 00:32:47.410
at the end of the game, we looked absolutely

00:32:47.410 --> 00:32:50.470
gassed. And I know the weather was in the 80s,

00:32:50.470 --> 00:32:53.109
70 % humidity. And we got a bunch of Seattle

00:32:53.109 --> 00:32:55.710
boys as in like, hey, we live in Seattle, but

00:32:55.710 --> 00:32:59.529
half these guys grew up in Seattle anyway. And

00:32:59.529 --> 00:33:02.670
we looked gassed. I thought there at the end,

00:33:02.710 --> 00:33:06.170
before the last PK, there was a sequence where

00:33:06.170 --> 00:33:09.329
Christian started stretching his calf in the

00:33:09.329 --> 00:33:12.769
middle, waving at the sidelines. The ball goes

00:33:12.769 --> 00:33:15.450
out and he doesn't get taken off. And, you know,

00:33:15.509 --> 00:33:17.470
the camera's not following around Brian or Christian,

00:33:17.529 --> 00:33:19.369
so I can't really see. But, you know, it went

00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:20.769
back to Christian and he's still on the pitch.

00:33:20.910 --> 00:33:23.400
And I was like. Why didn't we take him off at

00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:26.059
that time? And then right after that is when

00:33:26.059 --> 00:33:28.099
that weird sequence happened where he just tried

00:33:28.099 --> 00:33:30.799
to follow the ball like he was fouled. And then

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.099
off of the, you know, he didn't get the call

00:33:34.099 --> 00:33:36.299
and then the ball bounced into the penalty box.

00:33:36.619 --> 00:33:39.039
And so was y 'all seeing some fatigue that like,

00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:40.839
hey, our midfield probably should have got rotated

00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.180
out there in the 80, 85th minute? Or was y 'all

00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:46.700
happy with letting them write it out and taking

00:33:46.700 --> 00:33:50.759
a chance? I'm not sure if you noticed that. Christian

00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.900
cut his socks. He had two big holes on the back

00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:56.779
of his socks. Normally, players do that to relieve

00:33:56.779 --> 00:33:59.759
compression and pressure from the socks. I think

00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.640
that he's either battling shin splints or fatigue.

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.720
As I was saying in the Discord, join the Discord,

00:34:07.900 --> 00:34:10.579
is that we should have subbed him off around

00:34:10.579 --> 00:34:13.280
the 60th minute just to give us rest. We were

00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:18.300
up 3 -0. That's when we have to be rotating.

00:34:20.739 --> 00:34:23.000
I mean, who are you rotating in at that point,

00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:25.559
though? I mean, we were deep at that position,

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.820
but now with JP out, who would have been next

00:34:27.820 --> 00:34:32.199
in line, I mean, it's Danny, right? You move

00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.780
Riosnack into a deeper midfield role, then you

00:34:34.780 --> 00:34:39.019
put in someone that can play the 10. Yeah. I

00:34:39.019 --> 00:34:40.780
mean, we did see last year when Schmetzer would

00:34:40.780 --> 00:34:42.739
do this late in matches, it came back to bite

00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:45.800
us, but that was, of course, Atencio and Danny

00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.420
that were coming in, including in the Heritage

00:34:48.420 --> 00:34:51.920
Cup. where we were moments away from winning

00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.719
the Heritage Cup, and instead I had to go give

00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.559
it to San Jose in the locker room. Oh, boy. And

00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.760
Wednesday is the next match in that Heritage

00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.800
Cup. If the Sounders win, we'll present it to

00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.340
the captain on the field. Otherwise, back to

00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:09.500
the locker room. I don't even remember, what

00:35:09.500 --> 00:35:11.460
did we do down there in the opening match? I'll

00:35:11.460 --> 00:35:15.460
look that up while Cedar says what's happening.

00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.199
What am I saying? What's happening? What's going

00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:28.519
on? The subs. Yeah. Look, I mean, Christian runs

00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:33.039
his ass off every single game. So I feel like

00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:39.500
it's not like you're going to fully. I don't

00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:40.960
feel like we're at the point where you're like,

00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.000
oh, let's give him a whole game off or anything

00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.719
like that. But I mean, give the man some rest.

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.380
So I wouldn't mind seeing Danny out there more.

00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:52.360
I forgot before he got subbed on. I like forgot

00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.800
he was on the team, you know, this past game.

00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:56.860
I was like, oh, yeah, there's Danny Leyva. I

00:35:56.860 --> 00:35:58.840
haven't seen him in like, you know, a fucking

00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:03.179
year. So last year he was good, right? Like he

00:36:03.179 --> 00:36:06.880
had some really good player. We cannot. replicate

00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.519
with any other player yeah he's a good player

00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:11.639
and you know he's hungry to play well i mean

00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.079
put him out there he's gonna run his ass off

00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.920
and yeah if christian needs some i mean the last

00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.440
thing we would need is for christian to you know

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.719
pull a calf or a hammy or something knock on

00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.079
wood you know and that's that's what happens

00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:29.500
when people are really really gassed so yeah

00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:32.940
i i don't know i mean this has been this has

00:36:32.940 --> 00:36:37.280
been a topic of conversation Ever since Brian

00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.019
took over being head coach, it's his substitution

00:36:40.019 --> 00:36:43.840
patterns. I don't know. He's going to do what

00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.380
he wants to do and what he feels is the right

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.980
thing to do. There's nothing that we say that

00:36:49.980 --> 00:36:54.380
will change that. It's definitely a little puzzling

00:36:54.380 --> 00:37:00.260
at times. Game down in San Jose was 1 -1. Rusnak

00:37:00.260 --> 00:37:02.920
hitting an 80th minute goal from the right wing.

00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:08.179
to tie that match. Noting now that the Quakes

00:37:08.179 --> 00:37:11.340
all -time against Sounders, this is MLS era,

00:37:11.539 --> 00:37:20.820
15 -15 -11. But since 2021 in all competitions,

00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:23.340
they are 5 -0 -3, so they have not lost to us

00:37:23.340 --> 00:37:29.139
in eight matches. So it's quite surprising. I've

00:37:29.139 --> 00:37:30.579
been at a few of those matches where we were

00:37:30.579 --> 00:37:33.559
winning late and then blew it. either making

00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:37.280
it be a tie or a loss down in San Jose last year.

00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:43.019
So it'll be interesting to see. Heritage Cup,

00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.360
both Seattle's won it eight times. San Jose's

00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.219
won it nine times. Oh, no, also eight. So San

00:37:50.219 --> 00:37:52.579
Jose's aiming to keep it for a fourth consecutive

00:37:52.579 --> 00:37:56.460
year. We'll find out on Wednesday. If it's a

00:37:56.460 --> 00:37:59.119
tie game and it's higher than 1 -1. San Jose

00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.039
gets it if the Sounders win or it's a 0 -0 tie.

00:38:03.019 --> 00:38:08.800
It's coming home. It's coming home. It's the

00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:10.639
one we've all been waiting for. This is the one

00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.659
poker we're going to win this year. Wait, is

00:38:13.659 --> 00:38:18.599
it just us and San Jose? It is right now. That's

00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:22.519
not the plan long term. So the deal is the Heritage

00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.539
Cup is a trophy that celebrates teams that played

00:38:25.539 --> 00:38:29.400
in the NASL. and Vancouver and Portland both

00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.360
turned down the opportunity to be a part of it

00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.340
because we already had the Cascadia Cup. So they

00:38:33.340 --> 00:38:36.940
were like, it's just Cascadia Cup plus San Jose.

00:38:37.219 --> 00:38:40.519
But I think that was short -sighted because there's

00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.619
other teams out there that exist. And so we're

00:38:42.619 --> 00:38:45.480
probably in the years coming forward as we've

00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.500
formed a nonprofit, and it's going to be a 501c3

00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:53.130
around this. there will be the opportunity to

00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:56.690
add cities that had, so we may not see this same

00:38:56.690 --> 00:38:59.309
team name, but cities that were in ASL teams

00:38:59.309 --> 00:39:02.690
we can add into the process. I don't think that's

00:39:02.690 --> 00:39:04.789
finalized because we have to vote on it, but

00:39:04.789 --> 00:39:07.269
that's my feeling is we may see San Diego join.

00:39:07.409 --> 00:39:11.369
We may see potentially one of the LA teams, Minnesota

00:39:11.369 --> 00:39:17.110
teams like that may come into the fold and try

00:39:17.110 --> 00:39:20.690
for this cup of. celebrating the NASL heritage

00:39:20.690 --> 00:39:27.230
of our soccer teams and the league. Yes, exactly.

00:39:27.630 --> 00:39:30.690
I'm not old enough to have attended. I guess

00:39:30.690 --> 00:39:32.210
I am technically old enough to have attended

00:39:32.210 --> 00:39:35.869
a match, but I don't think I ever did. That's

00:39:35.869 --> 00:39:39.969
cool because if that becomes more of a thing,

00:39:40.070 --> 00:39:43.059
just like I asked, like, oh, who's in it? begs

00:39:43.059 --> 00:39:45.219
the conversation like, oh, yeah, these are the

00:39:45.219 --> 00:39:48.139
teams, these are the cities that have that heritage,

00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:52.139
literally, of NASL. Yeah, absolutely. And then

00:39:52.139 --> 00:39:54.659
you get to talking about it. That's cool. Yeah,

00:39:54.699 --> 00:39:58.260
and Portland and Vancouver can join later, but

00:39:58.260 --> 00:40:01.400
I think maybe they need to be punished a little

00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.460
bit and not be allowed in until last. So we will

00:40:05.460 --> 00:40:08.579
see. Did you get your question answered there,

00:40:08.659 --> 00:40:13.739
Dan? Yeah. that was it my i at in my thoughts

00:40:13.739 --> 00:40:17.099
at the moment was oh god christian is is hurting

00:40:17.099 --> 00:40:19.539
he we just did to christian what we did to morris

00:40:19.539 --> 00:40:21.800
earlier in the year so that's that's always one

00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:26.820
of my fears i mean if a cramp if it's cramping

00:40:26.820 --> 00:40:29.699
though you know like he's going to be okay number

00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:31.860
one and number two he can waste time by going

00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:34.480
down right i just didn't know at the time if

00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:36.900
it was cramping if he had popped his calf or

00:40:36.900 --> 00:40:39.900
his hamstring as he's stretching you know i I

00:40:39.900 --> 00:40:43.179
just didn't know. Oh, Alex, I thought maybe Tor.

00:40:43.460 --> 00:40:50.380
He did that. An accounting note, though, we actually

00:40:50.380 --> 00:40:55.880
play Colorado this Wednesday. Oh, sorry. I switched

00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.500
the two games. Colorado is Wednesday and San

00:41:00.500 --> 00:41:04.440
Jose is Saturday. It is throwback week, of course.

00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.340
On Saturday, I have a chance to see the Heritage

00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:10.579
Cup. So you're saying there's a chance? Maybe

00:41:10.579 --> 00:41:16.860
you're saying there's a chance. Absolutely. No,

00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:18.880
I think we've seen enough to duck 10 points from

00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:28.239
Everton. That's good. Wait, so are we all in

00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.539
agreement on the... I thought that first penalty

00:41:31.539 --> 00:41:34.119
for Sporting Kansas City, I thought it was kind

00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:38.599
of weak. I did too. That was the moose kill.

00:41:39.099 --> 00:41:44.360
Oh, the moose one? Yeah. I watched, what was

00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:50.019
the second one? Who fell, the peddler? No. Who

00:41:50.019 --> 00:41:53.139
was it? Was it RBW? Yeah, Rebecca Whitey. One

00:41:53.139 --> 00:41:55.340
of them, now I've got them backwards. One of

00:41:55.340 --> 00:41:57.019
them was weak, and the other one looked weak,

00:41:57.059 --> 00:41:58.579
and then when you rewatched it, he just straight

00:41:58.579 --> 00:42:05.789
up took out his legs. I think, so as... As somebody

00:42:05.789 --> 00:42:08.170
that's new to soccer and, of course, from Texas

00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:11.409
and grew up with football, if I have one complaint,

00:42:11.610 --> 00:42:14.170
now that I understand the offside rule, if I

00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:16.949
have one complaint, it is players going down

00:42:16.949 --> 00:42:20.329
with just the most minute touch. And, like, yeah,

00:42:20.389 --> 00:42:24.489
I think Danny hit his leg, but he didn't have

00:42:24.489 --> 00:42:27.409
to go down. It wasn't he was knocked down. He

00:42:27.409 --> 00:42:30.670
fell down after filling contact. And, no, just

00:42:30.670 --> 00:42:33.190
the sports that I grew up playing, that's some

00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:35.760
bitch -ass shit, man. Stand up and play. But

00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.340
that's the game. They got a PK and a point out

00:42:38.340 --> 00:42:43.739
of it. Welcome to soccer. Yeah. Yeah, you can

00:42:43.739 --> 00:42:47.019
thank the Brazilians. Neymar. Neymar specifically.

00:42:48.900 --> 00:42:51.360
Yeah. Well, here's the thing. The refs are supposed

00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:53.699
to be calling that, and they often will just

00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:56.780
not call it a foul when really they need to start

00:42:56.780 --> 00:43:01.210
giving cards for simulation. It's on the rule

00:43:01.210 --> 00:43:03.030
book. It's on the rule book, but then again,

00:43:03.050 --> 00:43:05.449
it's at the discretion of the ref, and that's

00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:08.250
where the issue is. Right, but you start doing

00:43:08.250 --> 00:43:09.929
that, you're going to see a lot less diving.

00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:14.250
I mean, Josie Altidore dove more than anybody

00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:17.090
in the history of sports, except for Manu Ginobili,

00:43:17.170 --> 00:43:21.809
maybe. Josie's a big dude. He is a big dude,

00:43:21.849 --> 00:43:25.369
but if the wind hit him, he would blow over like

00:43:25.369 --> 00:43:29.000
he was this tiny little thing. uh it drove me

00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:34.500
crazy so i don't know it's it's it is an interesting

00:43:34.500 --> 00:43:38.380
thing i i don't know i just it just looked like

00:43:38.380 --> 00:43:41.519
danny like sidled up to him like yeah there was

00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.159
contact but it wasn't like he tackled him from

00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.519
behind or anything yeah i thought it was i'd

00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:49.159
have to re -watch it because when i did watch

00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.460
a clip again it seemed pretty good uh i mean

00:43:52.460 --> 00:43:55.429
it seemed like it was a penalty but I don't know

00:43:55.429 --> 00:43:57.710
that it was the first time I watched it. And

00:43:57.710 --> 00:44:01.050
the second one was, Reeds was, once they showed

00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:03.710
it again. It was like, oh, yeah, Reeds is fair.

00:44:05.989 --> 00:44:11.090
Here's what I'm asking for. If Danny and Reeds

00:44:11.090 --> 00:44:13.610
was both penalties, then how come it wasn't a

00:44:13.610 --> 00:44:17.710
penalty with Obed in the box? It was pretty much

00:44:17.710 --> 00:44:19.969
the same thing. Obed kind of slows down his run

00:44:19.969 --> 00:44:22.679
a little bit. forces the contact from behind,

00:44:22.820 --> 00:44:24.960
and then goes down after receiving the contact.

00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.239
So if that's not a penalty, then the other two

00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.679
should have been penalties. Yellow for simulation

00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.619
on Obed. That's what we would get. Seriously.

00:44:39.219 --> 00:44:40.559
It's a red for simulation. We don't get those

00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:48.800
calls. Oh my God. Oh, also every time they cut

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.699
to Danny Masovsky, like in a closeup of his face

00:44:52.699 --> 00:44:54.739
during a game, I swear to God, he reminds me

00:44:54.739 --> 00:44:58.619
so much of Napoleon dynamite. Yeah. Oh yeah.

00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.320
Oh my God. Anyone was not, you're right. The

00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:03.500
Danny one was, was the one that was not the penalty.

00:45:03.619 --> 00:45:05.260
Like that was a ridiculous call. You can see

00:45:05.260 --> 00:45:07.400
his face reaction after he knew what he did.

00:45:07.940 --> 00:45:14.110
He's like, fuck. He looks just like Napoleon

00:45:14.110 --> 00:45:16.889
Dynamite, his mouth kind of open there. I don't

00:45:16.889 --> 00:45:21.530
know. He does. Reid was the one that was clearly

00:45:21.530 --> 00:45:25.230
a penalty. Yeah, Reid tripped the attacker. He

00:45:25.230 --> 00:45:29.210
hit his knee and knocked him over, basically.

00:45:29.909 --> 00:45:38.339
Yeah, I mean, it's a rough one for Danny. You

00:45:38.339 --> 00:45:40.219
can't put yourself in that position, especially

00:45:40.219 --> 00:45:41.920
as a forward. What are you doing defending in

00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:46.199
your own box? That's Brian Smith's ball. No,

00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:47.699
you don't see forwards back that far. Jordan

00:45:47.699 --> 00:45:52.519
was back there. They do defend, but not usually

00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.639
back that far. Well, that's because, what, our

00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:56.780
defense isn't good enough? Get some good defense.

00:45:56.780 --> 00:45:58.119
We've got to worry about getting a nine first.

00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.000
Yeah, true, true. Let's take a break. Let's listen

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up here, but I think we can have some fun stuff

00:48:19.829 --> 00:48:21.750
going on. The next two matches are at home, though,

00:48:21.789 --> 00:48:24.150
so I don't think we can record live from them.

00:48:24.349 --> 00:48:27.110
You know what would be fun is to... do a day

00:48:27.110 --> 00:48:29.030
in the life where you just carry like a little

00:48:29.030 --> 00:48:31.789
GoPro with you around and film what it's like

00:48:31.789 --> 00:48:35.090
to go sit with ECS. Alex, can you do that? If

00:48:35.090 --> 00:48:37.110
you guys give me a GoPro, yeah, I'll do it. Yeah.

00:48:37.190 --> 00:48:39.210
The problem is they won't let you, we can, but

00:48:39.210 --> 00:48:42.030
they don't, we probably have to clear it in advance,

00:48:42.210 --> 00:48:45.869
but that's something to think about. My buddy

00:48:45.869 --> 00:48:50.349
has the meta glasses. So if I were to get those,

00:48:50.530 --> 00:48:52.949
that could work. It wouldn't be like consistent

00:48:52.949 --> 00:48:57.030
video, but it would just be. Some clips. Especially

00:48:57.030 --> 00:49:00.610
in a game where we should win. Before we get

00:49:00.610 --> 00:49:04.989
into our top lineup of all time, let's talk about

00:49:04.989 --> 00:49:08.389
this upcoming match. We have a Colorado team

00:49:08.389 --> 00:49:14.769
coming in that just dropped a match to... Oh

00:49:14.769 --> 00:49:17.530
no, that's their last match? They beat Vancouver

00:49:17.530 --> 00:49:23.690
yesterday 3 -0 at home, but lost 3 -0 at LAFC.

00:49:24.380 --> 00:49:27.099
the match before where they got a six minute

00:49:27.099 --> 00:49:28.880
red card and then played the whole game down

00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:34.239
a man, basically. So Colorado seems to be a team

00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:41.119
of ups and downs, I guess we'll say with some

00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.239
great performances and just getting demolished

00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:47.219
by Portland a few times. How are you feeling

00:49:47.219 --> 00:49:51.639
about this Colorado Seattle matchup? A typically

00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.369
tough matchup for us. In Colorado, but maybe

00:49:55.369 --> 00:50:00.530
not so much at home. We've played good at home

00:50:00.530 --> 00:50:03.550
this year. That's when we've really been able

00:50:03.550 --> 00:50:06.250
to score the most. But if Jordan's back, you've

00:50:06.250 --> 00:50:07.829
got to think that he's probably going to get

00:50:07.829 --> 00:50:12.000
another 45 start again. I don't know, with it

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.300
being a midweek game, maybe they bring him off

00:50:14.300 --> 00:50:16.760
on the 60 -minute just to make sure that he has

00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.099
enough time to rest. But, man, I'm looking at

00:50:20.099 --> 00:50:22.079
the stats right now, and the goal difference

00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:26.980
for Colorado is negative six. Yeah. That is not

00:50:26.980 --> 00:50:30.179
good. They've been blown out. I think Portland

00:50:30.179 --> 00:50:33.920
has beat them 3 -0 twice maybe. They gave up

00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:38.929
three goals to LAFC. Yeah, it's been a rough

00:50:38.929 --> 00:50:41.510
go of it for them. Two goals to San Jose, two

00:50:41.510 --> 00:50:45.090
goals to San Diego. Oh, two to one was the first

00:50:45.090 --> 00:50:48.610
Portland game. That's right. So, yeah, they've

00:50:48.610 --> 00:50:52.030
been giving up a lot of goals. Is this a chance

00:50:52.030 --> 00:50:56.989
to put another three up? Yeah, well, I'm interested

00:50:56.989 --> 00:50:59.409
to see what we're, you know, because there's

00:50:59.409 --> 00:51:00.909
some talk that we are going to get some rotation

00:51:00.909 --> 00:51:03.650
with our attacking band. And I would like to

00:51:03.650 --> 00:51:07.110
see Pedro. But with Jordan, I would like to see

00:51:07.110 --> 00:51:09.170
Pedro with the starters at the beginning of the

00:51:09.170 --> 00:51:12.030
game and kind of get an evaluation. The last

00:51:12.030 --> 00:51:14.489
two or three times I've actually, you know, we've

00:51:14.489 --> 00:51:17.269
seen Pedro play. It's been late in the game.

00:51:17.309 --> 00:51:19.750
The game state is already in the endgame, and

00:51:19.750 --> 00:51:24.650
we just haven't seen what we wanted. So for the

00:51:24.650 --> 00:51:26.269
entertainment, for the fans, I want to see it.

00:51:26.289 --> 00:51:30.730
And I think Pedro needs to start immensely. I

00:51:30.730 --> 00:51:32.889
think throwing him a start would be important

00:51:32.889 --> 00:51:36.019
for his psyche. And again, this is just me going

00:51:36.019 --> 00:51:39.260
off the Kash Patel gut, so no evidence whatsoever

00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:43.539
to suggest this. But his body language and demeanor

00:51:43.539 --> 00:51:47.260
just from the TV against Kansas City, I think

00:51:47.260 --> 00:51:48.900
a start would be beneficial to him, and I would

00:51:48.900 --> 00:51:52.360
be excited to see him start again. Yeah, he looked

00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.639
really tentative. He looked really tentative

00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.760
on the ball. He looked like he was a little hesitant

00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:02.019
to make decisions. And yeah, sometimes his spacing

00:52:02.019 --> 00:52:05.400
seemed a little weird. He seemed like he was

00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.300
ball watching a few times. Like I saw, I saw

00:52:08.300 --> 00:52:10.820
certain points in the game. Schmetzer was like

00:52:10.820 --> 00:52:13.460
yelling at him to like, you know, track this

00:52:13.460 --> 00:52:15.960
guy, pay attention to this guy. You know, this

00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:18.579
is just super anecdotal because I'm sitting at

00:52:18.579 --> 00:52:21.679
home watching, but you know, I, I was like, Oh,

00:52:21.739 --> 00:52:24.539
that's interesting. Like, is he not, you know,

00:52:24.539 --> 00:52:26.539
is he not playing the way that they want him

00:52:26.539 --> 00:52:29.559
to? And also just like Dan is saying his body

00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.440
language. Yeah. Maybe, maybe he wouldn't feel

00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:37.650
a bit more. juiced up if he got a start. Could

00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:42.269
we see Ryan Kent out there as well? Oh, I hope

00:52:42.269 --> 00:52:45.409
so. Oh, you want to know what my lineup would

00:52:45.409 --> 00:52:49.590
be? Yeah, I mean, yeah. First, Pedro, do you

00:52:49.590 --> 00:52:50.690
think he should get some time? And what about

00:52:50.690 --> 00:52:53.730
Ryan Kent? Oh, yeah. In the Napoleon Dynamite

00:52:53.730 --> 00:53:00.400
voice, vote for Pedro. So, let Pedro start. Have

00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.880
they used that? If no one's used that, they need

00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:05.159
to be using that. I'm using it. I put a patent

00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.760
on it. Okay. I'm going to start using it now.

00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:13.019
No, I think you start Pedro. You start Morris,

00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:18.260
but you take him off at half again. I guess you

00:53:18.260 --> 00:53:25.559
do play Rusnak, and then you play... Give Ken

00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:29.880
a run out there. If not, it'll be Rothrock. Same

00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:35.840
midfield. And then we'll see Kalani come back.

00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.159
Hopefully. Who's starting at left back, though?

00:53:39.579 --> 00:53:45.940
Reid. Or John Bell. No, not John Bell. I start

00:53:45.940 --> 00:53:48.599
Reid. Because I think we're going to be at home.

00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:53.400
We'll have a lot more possession. We'll do the,

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:56.940
like semester says, play when we're in possession,

00:53:57.059 --> 00:54:01.150
have the three center backs. And then the midfield

00:54:01.150 --> 00:54:06.610
be high. I don't know. He's just going to roll

00:54:06.610 --> 00:54:09.789
out the same lineup as before. And then someone's

00:54:09.789 --> 00:54:11.389
going to get hurt, and we're going to have this

00:54:11.389 --> 00:54:17.010
cycle all over again. Yeah, go ahead, Dan. I

00:54:17.010 --> 00:54:19.150
think a big question is, are you starting Alex

00:54:19.150 --> 00:54:21.750
at center back again? Are you going to run with

00:54:21.750 --> 00:54:24.929
Reagan and Alex at center back and let KKR fly

00:54:24.929 --> 00:54:29.699
up that right wing? Put Alex back and maybe play

00:54:29.699 --> 00:54:33.099
Bell there in center back instead so that you

00:54:33.099 --> 00:54:37.860
would have Reed, KKR out on the wings. How are

00:54:37.860 --> 00:54:43.199
you going to do that? Let me give you some stats

00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.619
real quick before you all decide on that. In

00:54:45.619 --> 00:54:49.340
the game against Vancouver, Colorado had 16 shots,

00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:53.219
including seven on target, both better than Vancouver,

00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:58.130
but only 41 % of possession. and only 82 % pass

00:54:58.130 --> 00:55:01.130
accuracy. They did commit only eight fouls to

00:55:01.130 --> 00:55:05.409
16 for Vancouver, but they did have two yellows

00:55:05.409 --> 00:55:07.769
and three offsides more than Vancouver. Vancouver

00:55:07.769 --> 00:55:10.630
also had more corners. So here's a low possession,

00:55:11.010 --> 00:55:16.329
high shot team. What does that mean for our lineup?

00:55:16.510 --> 00:55:19.630
Does it change anything for you? Are you sure

00:55:19.630 --> 00:55:23.110
we're not playing Minnesota? These are not that

00:55:23.110 --> 00:55:27.670
bad, possession -wise. No, it's kind of – I would

00:55:27.670 --> 00:55:29.630
say it almost sounds like Sunder's kryptonite

00:55:29.630 --> 00:55:33.329
with the team sitting back and then going when

00:55:33.329 --> 00:55:36.570
they get the chance. No, it doesn't change. I

00:55:36.570 --> 00:55:38.429
mean, I would start – I think I would run with

00:55:38.429 --> 00:55:41.389
Alex back at center back again if I was the one

00:55:41.389 --> 00:55:45.969
making the choice and then have KKR. I had to

00:55:45.969 --> 00:55:48.949
let KKR push up the field and hopefully we see

00:55:48.949 --> 00:55:53.150
Morris and getting the ball fed to him. I think

00:55:53.150 --> 00:55:59.010
there's a lot – that gets me excited. Cedar,

00:55:59.070 --> 00:56:04.889
what about you? Yeah, to your point, Colorado,

00:56:05.849 --> 00:56:11.130
their possession, it's kind of varied over the

00:56:11.130 --> 00:56:17.050
season. Some games they've had over 50%, cracking

00:56:17.050 --> 00:56:21.630
60, 66 during one game against Sporting Kansas

00:56:21.630 --> 00:56:24.329
City just a couple of weeks ago. And then they've

00:56:24.329 --> 00:56:27.960
also, Then the next week they have 28 % against

00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:32.059
LAFC, a team that doesn't want to have the ball.

00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:38.400
So I have no idea what to expect. I mean, I haven't

00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.139
watched really any Colorado games this year except

00:56:42.139 --> 00:56:46.380
for our 1 -1 draw against them on the road. So,

00:56:46.380 --> 00:56:49.159
yeah, I don't know. I don't think they're going

00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.460
to be – I don't know. I feel like Sporting Kansas

00:56:53.460 --> 00:56:56.980
City – we'll probably end up being more dangerous

00:56:56.980 --> 00:57:00.000
than we'll have been more dangerous against us

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.239
than Colorado will be. But I mean, I just trust

00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.400
in our, in our talent. If we're able to play

00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:09.559
the way we want to play, I'm not, I'm not concerned

00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:11.820
about Colorado. I feel like they're a team that's

00:57:11.820 --> 00:57:15.219
kind of, you know, all over the place and a little

00:57:15.219 --> 00:57:18.079
streaky. It seems like they go on losing streaks,

00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:20.000
you know, then they'll win a couple of games.

00:57:20.059 --> 00:57:21.920
They'll draw one and then go on another losing

00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.099
streak. So I, I'm not, I'm not super concerned

00:57:25.099 --> 00:57:28.320
about them in particular. I think what I'm concerned

00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.500
about is like, hey, can we play with the energy

00:57:30.500 --> 00:57:35.079
and the capacity that we know we have? Because

00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:39.860
if we don't, then any team can beat us. Yeah,

00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:44.590
makes sense. So give me a score prediction. For

00:57:44.590 --> 00:57:47.949
the Colorado match on Wednesday, it's very funny

00:57:47.949 --> 00:57:50.289
that I was talking about San Jose being Wednesday

00:57:50.289 --> 00:57:51.929
when I had already pulled up all the Colorado

00:57:51.929 --> 00:57:57.210
stats ready to go to discuss with you. But what's

00:57:57.210 --> 00:58:00.409
your score prediction then if we are assuming

00:58:00.409 --> 00:58:08.809
starting Jordan and coming out firing? I think

00:58:08.809 --> 00:58:11.710
we're going to get 3 -1, and Jordan's going to

00:58:11.710 --> 00:58:13.789
have a brace, and Pedro's going to get that goal.

00:58:16.109 --> 00:58:18.489
and it's going to be a very exciting night. So

00:58:18.489 --> 00:58:20.690
that's what I'm going to go with, 3 -1 Sounders.

00:58:23.250 --> 00:58:27.929
Cedar? I also think 3 -1 Sounders, I think they're

00:58:27.929 --> 00:58:31.309
going to get, I think Colorado's going to get

00:58:31.309 --> 00:58:34.889
a really stupid penalty late, and Georgie Mihailovich

00:58:34.889 --> 00:58:39.090
will sink it home, and we'll end up with a win.

00:58:43.349 --> 00:58:47.530
Alex, where are you at? Also 3 -1 Sounders. I

00:58:47.530 --> 00:58:53.429
think Jordan scores. Kent gets his first. And

00:58:53.429 --> 00:58:56.829
then Pedro scores. I'm going to be the Discord

00:58:56.829 --> 00:59:01.909
vote for Pedro. Yeah. I'll go 3 -2 then. I think

00:59:01.909 --> 00:59:04.829
Sounders probably take a 3 -0 lead and then give

00:59:04.829 --> 00:59:07.530
up two goals. And then, of course, we have a

00:59:07.530 --> 00:59:10.469
nervy finish because, according to Schmetzer,

00:59:11.019 --> 00:59:13.659
A win is a win. So three points, you take it

00:59:13.659 --> 00:59:17.780
anywhere. I would rather discuss how to not allow

00:59:17.780 --> 00:59:20.920
three goals in a single half, but yeah, I'm going

00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.239
three, two sounders for my prediction may change

00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.980
by the time I record with the, the, the scuttlebutt

00:59:26.980 --> 00:59:29.719
dudes, but you've all convinced me we're going

00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:33.659
to win the game. So I'm going. Wait, wait, wait.

00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:37.900
I actually want to change mine. I now want to

00:59:37.900 --> 00:59:41.199
go three, one Colorado. I can't be the same as

00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:45.340
everybody else. I'm going to add that Ree's going

00:59:45.340 --> 00:59:50.880
to get a red. Oh, no. Again? Again. This time

00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.980
it will be a straight red. Oh, gosh. As long

00:59:53.980 --> 00:59:55.380
as he doesn't throw the ball in the stands, we

00:59:55.380 --> 00:59:57.079
should be okay. No, he's going to throw the ball

00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:01.960
at the Colorado bench. Yeah. That's better. That's

01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.940
probably less of a penalty. I mean, that you

01:00:04.940 --> 01:00:06.940
just get a yellow. It's not a straight red. No,

01:00:06.940 --> 01:00:09.679
because he's not Argentinian. So he's going to

01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:13.179
get a red. Yeah, but weren't you the guy who

01:00:13.179 --> 01:00:15.019
said that Suarez was done and then he looked

01:00:15.019 --> 01:00:17.260
brilliant again this week for Miami? That's all

01:00:17.260 --> 01:00:18.860
I'm saying. I didn't watch the game. Can we still

01:00:18.860 --> 01:00:22.619
call him the city van? I don't watch Miami ball.

01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:28.440
Let's do a little game here before we finish

01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.400
up. We talked about it last show. It was my homework

01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.619
for all of you. And if you haven't done it, I'm

01:00:33.619 --> 01:00:35.780
an easy grader, so you can do it as we're going.

01:00:36.449 --> 01:00:38.670
but we know Dan has done it. So we're going to

01:00:38.670 --> 01:00:41.170
start with you, Dan. All -time Sounders 4 -4

01:00:41.170 --> 01:00:45.690
-2 lineup. So this was a lot of fun because it

01:00:45.690 --> 01:00:48.250
gave me an opportunity to kind of dig into some

01:00:48.250 --> 01:00:50.289
of the players that I missed coming into the

01:00:50.289 --> 01:00:53.329
Sounders just a couple years ago. So I really

01:00:53.329 --> 01:00:55.789
enjoyed this and watching some of the highlights

01:00:55.789 --> 01:01:00.849
of these players. Let's go from forward backwards

01:01:00.849 --> 01:01:03.389
because I think... Oh, forward backwards? Yeah,

01:01:03.389 --> 01:01:05.030
because there's some that will be obvious, and

01:01:05.030 --> 01:01:07.210
I think there's some that might be a little –

01:01:07.210 --> 01:01:10.730
But my forwards, I think that's where people

01:01:10.730 --> 01:01:13.449
are going to get upset. Oh, no. This is going

01:01:13.449 --> 01:01:15.869
to be fun then because you see your forwards,

01:01:15.989 --> 01:01:17.929
and then we can talk to everyone else. Yeah.

01:01:18.250 --> 01:01:21.730
Okay, so if I'm playing the top two, I'm playing

01:01:21.730 --> 01:01:27.829
with Ryle and Oba. Oh, okay. Okay. Nice. Nice.

01:01:29.170 --> 01:01:31.409
Then moving into the midfield, I got Morris on

01:01:31.409 --> 01:01:34.480
the left. Ladero, Alonzo, and then Christian

01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:38.840
on the right. And then with the back four, I

01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:42.579
got Brad Smith, Zach Scott, Chad Marshall, Yedlin.

01:01:43.420 --> 01:01:46.960
Wow. Interesting. Interesting. There's definitely

01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:50.480
some differences that I have. Some debates that

01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:53.480
I had there. Who you got a goalkeeper? Yeah,

01:01:53.500 --> 01:01:56.699
that's true. Have we had a goalkeeper before,

01:01:56.780 --> 01:02:00.389
Fry? I thought we played with 10 men before Fry

01:02:00.389 --> 01:02:05.110
played with us. Spurning, your obvious choices

01:02:05.110 --> 01:02:07.289
are Spurn, and it's not a difficult – I mean,

01:02:07.309 --> 01:02:10.090
it is a difficult choice. Spurning and, of course,

01:02:10.090 --> 01:02:13.070
Casey Keller versus Fry. We've had other goalies,

01:02:13.110 --> 01:02:15.710
but those are the main ones, and they all – an

01:02:15.710 --> 01:02:17.869
argument can be made for all of them. Absolutely.

01:02:18.849 --> 01:02:21.929
So we're assuming you go with Fry there? 100%,

01:02:21.929 --> 01:02:26.269
yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a pretty good lineup.

01:02:27.019 --> 01:02:30.019
I've got to say, Cedar, what are you thinking

01:02:30.019 --> 01:02:35.760
here for your lineup? Up top, I've got Raul and

01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:39.780
Clint Dempsey. And I'd have Dempsey kind of be

01:02:39.780 --> 01:02:44.280
more of a shadow striker there. And then basically

01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:51.539
same midfield as Dan, Morris, left mid, Lodero,

01:02:51.780 --> 01:02:54.960
Alonzo, and then Christian on the right. And

01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:58.119
then back line, I've got Nuhu left back. I've

01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:02.079
got Chad Marshall, Yamar at center back. And

01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:05.340
then Kelvin Leardom at right back. And then Fry

01:03:05.340 --> 01:03:10.280
and Goal. That was my debate at right back. Leardom

01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:15.039
versus Yedlin. Tough. I know. Tough one. I know.

01:03:15.179 --> 01:03:18.079
Alex, what's your lineup? So I'm going to do

01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:22.920
Raul and Clint up top. Yeah. Same midfield as

01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:28.570
Cedar. Dan with Morris, Nico, Alonzo, and Roldan.

01:03:29.449 --> 01:03:32.630
All right. So right back, I'm taking Brad Evans.

01:03:33.170 --> 01:03:37.010
Oh. And then I'm taking Yamar, Chad Marshall,

01:03:37.389 --> 01:03:42.449
and then Leo Gonzalez. Interesting. Interesting.

01:03:45.730 --> 01:03:49.010
So I got. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I forgot you got goal.

01:03:49.170 --> 01:03:52.030
And then goal, I'm taking Casey Keller. Okay.

01:03:52.380 --> 01:03:57.059
Not a bad choice. Not a bad choice. I have Raul

01:03:57.059 --> 01:04:00.199
and Deuce up top. I originally was going to do

01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.079
Oba and Deuce, but then I remembered that Oba

01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.320
never scored a playoff goal in his entire career

01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:08.019
and would always fizzle out by then, so couldn't

01:04:08.019 --> 01:04:11.420
do it. Midfield is the exact same. Jordan, Nico,

01:04:11.579 --> 01:04:15.099
Ozzie, and Christian. I did go with Nuhu at left

01:04:15.099 --> 01:04:18.800
back. Chad Marshall. I had a big debate between

01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.699
Roman and Yamar at center back, and I went with

01:04:21.699 --> 01:04:24.860
Yamar. And then I had a big debate between Yedlin

01:04:24.860 --> 01:04:27.719
and Leardom, and I went with Yedlin. And then,

01:04:27.739 --> 01:04:29.639
of course, I went with Fry just because of his

01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:34.199
longevity and just what he's done for our team.

01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.920
But I will say Sperning was pretty amazing. He

01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:41.739
just wasn't here enough years. I think it's telling,

01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.059
though, that for the MLS, we have quite a few

01:04:45.059 --> 01:04:49.639
players there. That could potentially and should

01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:52.699
definitely one day be in the circle of legends.

01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:57.739
But we'll have to see because you have to have

01:04:57.739 --> 01:05:02.219
to qualify. You have to meet certain criteria.

01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:13.599
And Jordan, Christian, Yamar, Nuhu are all years

01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:20.610
off. And Raul are all, it's like four to five

01:05:20.610 --> 01:05:23.869
years after they retire. So they won't make it

01:05:23.869 --> 01:05:26.969
for a long time. But I think Ozzy's eligible

01:05:26.969 --> 01:05:30.130
first ballot, if I'm not mistaken. So we could

01:05:30.130 --> 01:05:33.909
see Ozzy. Deuce might be, I'd have to look at

01:05:33.909 --> 01:05:36.590
the number of games he played. Also, there may

01:05:36.590 --> 01:05:39.670
be a question of, was he involved with the championship?

01:05:39.690 --> 01:05:41.869
Because he was on the roster, but he was, remember,

01:05:41.889 --> 01:05:45.150
injured when that happened. But I think he was

01:05:45.150 --> 01:05:48.289
there for, oh, I was going to say US Open Cup.

01:05:50.309 --> 01:05:57.690
But another year, maybe. Chad Marshall, we'd

01:05:57.690 --> 01:05:59.730
have to look at the timing. And Yamar, of course,

01:05:59.789 --> 01:06:03.610
is still active. So Roman is the type of player

01:06:03.610 --> 01:06:06.250
who does not get in on straight numbers, but

01:06:06.250 --> 01:06:08.110
there are special categories that could get him

01:06:08.110 --> 01:06:10.670
in. But he also may be the type of player who,

01:06:10.730 --> 01:06:14.659
just based on the criteria, which... nicholas

01:06:14.659 --> 01:06:17.000
and i wrote and then was adapted by the sounders

01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:20.519
uh he wouldn't get in because he didn't meet

01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:22.719
some of those numbers but he could get in in

01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:25.639
like as a moment like his penalty obviously is

01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:28.599
the biggest moment in sounders history maybe

01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:34.920
the save but yeah so that's fun i mean i think

01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:39.340
trying to decide that was tough and i also think

01:06:39.340 --> 01:06:43.690
we all went with MLS, which is interesting because

01:06:43.690 --> 01:06:45.090
we had this discussion at the end of the last

01:06:45.090 --> 01:06:48.929
show. Who might have we included instead? I don't

01:06:48.929 --> 01:06:50.869
know enough about the NASL Sounders, which is

01:06:50.869 --> 01:06:53.750
why there is representation for those people

01:06:53.750 --> 01:06:56.750
on the circle of legends. I know some of the

01:06:56.750 --> 01:06:59.809
players are, but I don't know of their true impact.

01:06:59.969 --> 01:07:02.250
So we'll be able to look at those numbers. And

01:07:02.250 --> 01:07:04.369
USL, although it was minor league, I mean, there's

01:07:04.369 --> 01:07:07.349
still some legends there that potentially could

01:07:07.349 --> 01:07:11.710
be involved. I looked it up. There's 40 players

01:07:11.710 --> 01:07:14.570
who've played defender for the Sounders all time.

01:07:15.449 --> 01:07:18.449
There's probably more now, but that was as of

01:07:18.449 --> 01:07:22.190
like three years ago. So I guess it's more at

01:07:22.190 --> 01:07:27.550
this point. Does that lineup that y 'all picked,

01:07:27.610 --> 01:07:29.409
since they're largely the same with the exception

01:07:29.409 --> 01:07:31.269
of a different center back, different right back,

01:07:31.449 --> 01:07:35.650
different goalie, does that lineup and left back,

01:07:35.750 --> 01:07:40.559
does that lineup win a championship? And the

01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:48.199
MLS. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah, of course it does.

01:07:49.099 --> 01:07:51.380
Wait, who's the one that has Nuhu at left back?

01:07:51.780 --> 01:07:55.139
I do. Yeah, you're getting red card in the final.

01:07:55.219 --> 01:07:59.119
You're losing on a PK. Oh, no. I mean, I just

01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:02.239
don't. Most red cards go to you. I don't see.

01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:07.340
To me, Nuhu, player -wise, is the best left back

01:08:07.340 --> 01:08:11.289
we've ever had. I think he just. It's hard with

01:08:11.289 --> 01:08:14.250
what's going on right now, right? How do you

01:08:14.250 --> 01:08:20.350
decide? Also, we wouldn't play them in a 4 -4

01:08:20.350 --> 01:08:23.329
-2, right? I mean, we'd probably have – you'd

01:08:23.329 --> 01:08:26.609
drop Alonzo and Roldan, you know, as defensive

01:08:26.609 --> 01:08:28.750
midfielders, right? I mean, you'd play Christian

01:08:28.750 --> 01:08:30.909
on the right and have Ozzie back. If you're playing

01:08:30.909 --> 01:08:33.750
two forwards. If you're only playing one forward,

01:08:33.789 --> 01:08:35.390
then you drop Christian back and bring in a different

01:08:35.390 --> 01:08:39.779
right mid. My guess is if we're playing with

01:08:39.779 --> 01:08:42.579
two at the top, I mean, you do the diamond in

01:08:42.579 --> 01:08:44.020
the middle, and then you got the four at the

01:08:44.020 --> 01:08:47.979
back. You could go four triple two. Say that

01:08:47.979 --> 01:08:51.180
again? Four triple two with the two CDMs, two

01:08:51.180 --> 01:08:55.779
cams, and then two strikers. Jordan can play.

01:08:55.899 --> 01:08:57.880
That was Schmetzer as coach. That's not happening.

01:08:58.100 --> 01:09:00.119
This is where I'm the coach, and we're playing

01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.460
FIFA. We can't score from the wing in that instance.

01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.220
Well, if we're playing FIFA, I'm doing three

01:09:04.220 --> 01:09:06.899
at the back, which is my always lineup. Three

01:09:06.899 --> 01:09:09.500
center backs, and then I don't put anyone at

01:09:09.500 --> 01:09:13.140
wing back. I want extra attacking players up

01:09:13.140 --> 01:09:15.739
top. So that's why I put Brad Evans as my right

01:09:15.739 --> 01:09:17.859
back, because in possession, we're going to be

01:09:17.859 --> 01:09:19.899
three in the back, and you just have Leo Gonzalez

01:09:19.899 --> 01:09:25.890
running up the line. Yeah. Yeah. Leo played 137

01:09:25.890 --> 01:09:28.310
matches at the time. It was the fifth most in

01:09:28.310 --> 01:09:30.430
club history. I think it's now probably the eighth

01:09:30.430 --> 01:09:34.350
or ninth most in seven seasons from 2009 to 2015.

01:09:36.109 --> 01:09:38.909
And he won the U .S. Open Cup in 09, 10, 11,

01:09:39.010 --> 01:09:42.489
and 14 in the Sport Shield. More than 10 ,000

01:09:42.489 --> 01:09:44.609
minutes. I happen to have that open on another

01:09:44.609 --> 01:09:47.770
window here, so I did not memorize that. No,

01:09:47.810 --> 01:09:50.310
I just Googled left backs in Sounders history,

01:09:50.430 --> 01:09:54.960
and that's the one that came up. Yeah. I was

01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.159
like, I don't want to pick new who. Chad Marshall

01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.399
got four best 11 honors. Of course, only two

01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.840
with the Sounders. But isn't the award named

01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:05.100
after him for best defender in the league? Isn't

01:10:05.100 --> 01:10:07.859
it the Chad Marshall Award? I think so, right?

01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.640
See, so when you guys think of Chad Marshall,

01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:13.340
do you guys think of him in his time in Seattle

01:10:13.340 --> 01:10:17.979
or his time in Columbus? Was it Columbus? Columbus,

01:10:18.180 --> 01:10:22.260
yeah. Because I heard that on another podcast.

01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:25.199
He did 10 years in Columbus, but the Sounders

01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:29.260
didn't exist before then. So MLS didn't exist

01:10:29.260 --> 01:10:37.119
until 2019. 29. He did five years with Columbus

01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:43.319
while the Sounders were a team. And then he came

01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:46.859
here. So I definitely think of him as a Sounders

01:10:46.859 --> 01:10:48.680
player before a Columbus player. I mean, and

01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:52.460
plus he's still around in some capacity. We saved

01:10:52.460 --> 01:10:55.479
them from Columbus. Brad Evans came that same

01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:59.520
year. Or no, a couple years. Yeah, same year.

01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:04.399
Nice. That's pretty good. So the MLS didn't start

01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:12.039
until 2009. We invented soccer, right? Seattle

01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.039
invented soccer. Well, that's why the ball this

01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:19.859
year is Seattle colors. Green and blue. Absolutely.

01:11:20.590 --> 01:11:26.590
You guys see we have a fourth kit? Yeah, we have

01:11:26.590 --> 01:11:29.550
a fourth kit. It's already dropped. The All -Star

01:11:29.550 --> 01:11:32.430
jersey? Yeah, the All -Star jersey. I don't think

01:11:32.430 --> 01:11:35.850
we have any All -Stars, do we? No, because there's

01:11:35.850 --> 01:11:38.590
an East Coast Spice. I mean, that is true, but

01:11:38.590 --> 01:11:40.750
I'm not sure if there's... Okay, that's a good

01:11:40.750 --> 01:11:43.689
question. For the three of you, who on the Sounders

01:11:43.689 --> 01:11:47.369
roster deserves to be on the All -Star team?

01:11:47.430 --> 01:11:49.609
I would say Fry, but he's hurt, so we can't count

01:11:49.609 --> 01:11:53.760
him. Well, I mean, he could come. Christian,

01:11:53.779 --> 01:12:00.840
for sure. And Rusnak. Yeah. It's a tough position,

01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.319
though, for him based on what other people are

01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:04.859
doing around the league. Yeah, I don't think

01:12:04.859 --> 01:12:08.760
he's producing enough. Yeah, but it's subjective,

01:12:08.939 --> 01:12:13.119
and that's who I think. Your eyes deceive you.

01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:19.510
The Austin coach, what's his face? Is it Nico

01:12:19.510 --> 01:12:24.010
Estevez? Well, he picked Brandon. Yeah, Vasquez

01:12:24.010 --> 01:12:28.210
is done. Yeah, exactly, right? No, but what I'm

01:12:28.210 --> 01:12:30.449
saying is the Austin head coach, I forgot his

01:12:30.449 --> 01:12:34.470
name, but he had initially picked Brandon Vasquez,

01:12:34.529 --> 01:12:39.370
his own player, to be an all -star over. Sam

01:12:39.370 --> 01:12:42.390
Surridge, who leads the league in goals. It's

01:12:42.390 --> 01:12:45.270
just like, okay, well, that's stupid. That's

01:12:45.270 --> 01:12:48.470
really dumb. And that's why karma came in. I

01:12:48.470 --> 01:12:51.289
will choose who I want. No, because we don't

01:12:51.289 --> 01:12:54.289
want Ruznik to tear his ACL. No, we don't. It's

01:12:54.289 --> 01:12:57.869
fine. I honestly don't care about... I mean,

01:12:57.869 --> 01:12:59.750
they care. The players probably care a little

01:12:59.750 --> 01:13:02.130
bit, but I don't care about who's an all -star

01:13:02.130 --> 01:13:06.390
or not. less games for us to have our guys get

01:13:06.390 --> 01:13:09.149
injured in. Are they playing League of Mechies

01:13:09.149 --> 01:13:13.789
All -Stars? Yeah. That's a better game. We did

01:13:13.789 --> 01:13:16.069
get a player in the MLS Next All -Star game,

01:13:16.229 --> 01:13:19.229
Ronan Learning, who I don't even know who that

01:13:19.229 --> 01:13:22.229
is, but he's a Sounders youth player, apparently.

01:13:22.649 --> 01:13:25.470
The only Sounders player we know in the Academy

01:13:25.470 --> 01:13:30.020
is Omar Hassan. I don't know. I've never heard

01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:33.479
that player in my life. So Sounders FC Academy,

01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:37.239
Ronan Learning. MLS Next announced that he is

01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:39.680
on that. He joined the Sounders Academy in 2002,

01:13:39.939 --> 01:13:44.159
scored in 18 matches, 15 starts during the 2024

01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:47.060
-25 MLS Next season, scoring three goals, including

01:13:47.060 --> 01:13:50.579
a brace against San Jose. He recently played

01:13:50.579 --> 01:13:52.840
with Sounders FC Academy in the 2025 Generation

01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:56.460
Adidas Cup at the U18 level, finishing third

01:13:56.460 --> 01:13:59.000
in Group F. I remember when he used to win those

01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.699
against like Real Madrid and teams like that.

01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:08.399
Oh yeah. It's rough. It is rough, but yeah. So

01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.640
we have one youth player that made the all -star

01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.640
game and wasn't Alex, the highest rated Sounders

01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:19.520
player in the all -stars for right back for all

01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:22.340
positions. He was the highest on the list. Yes.

01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:27.149
Yes, he was. He was the only one that was top

01:14:27.149 --> 01:14:30.729
three at any position. Dan, how many votes did

01:14:30.729 --> 01:14:43.109
you submit? For MLS or for 2024 elections? For

01:14:43.109 --> 01:14:49.090
MLS. Oh, none. I guess you can blame me for the

01:14:49.090 --> 01:14:51.520
Sounders not having anybody in there. I mean,

01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:54.500
the midfielders are Sebastian Berhalter, David

01:14:54.500 --> 01:14:59.159
DaCosta, Evander, Diego Luna, Jeppe Tverskasov,

01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:04.220
and Philippe Zinkernagel. The three of them,

01:15:04.380 --> 01:15:10.939
including DaCosta, being coach selections. It's

01:15:10.939 --> 01:15:14.460
hard to argue. Not surprising. It's a pretty

01:15:14.460 --> 01:15:16.699
good midfield, and they went heavy on the forwards.

01:15:18.040 --> 01:15:21.960
And no defenders. The coach selected a Cincinnati

01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:25.199
player, a Nashville player, a Union player, and

01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:29.399
a Columbus Crew player to come in. Man, Andy

01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:31.279
Nahar. I didn't even know he was still in the

01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:35.180
league. Wow. I think it would be way more fun

01:15:35.180 --> 01:15:39.340
if they just did East versus West. No money.

01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.340
Is there money in this? I don't think there's

01:15:43.340 --> 01:15:46.359
money. No one's paying to go to see. The league

01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.979
that makes fans. perhaps, but they're already

01:15:49.979 --> 01:15:52.739
going to have to go to Leagues Cup a week later.

01:15:52.899 --> 01:15:56.439
This is July 23rd. Leagues Cup starts literally

01:15:56.439 --> 01:15:59.640
a week later. The cartel sponsors them. Could

01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:04.859
be. They send their taxes to the U .S. and it

01:16:04.859 --> 01:16:07.680
pays for them. I did not realize that Andy Nahar

01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:11.720
went and played at Olympia, meaning the team

01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.800
in Honduras where he plays for the national team.

01:16:14.329 --> 01:16:16.189
or several years before coming back. In my head,

01:16:16.210 --> 01:16:18.770
he's always a DC United player where he's done

01:16:18.770 --> 01:16:26.989
two stints with a total of 152 matches. Long

01:16:26.989 --> 01:16:30.090
time player. That's a lot. Yeah, he did go to

01:16:30.090 --> 01:16:35.529
Anderlicht as well. So quality player that maybe

01:16:35.529 --> 01:16:39.289
the United States should have done more to get

01:16:39.289 --> 01:16:41.949
on the national team since he moved to the US

01:16:41.949 --> 01:16:46.260
at the age of 13. Isn't that always the case?

01:16:47.180 --> 01:16:51.399
Who did I learn? Who's the second best player

01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:55.699
for Canada? I found out today he was born in

01:16:55.699 --> 01:16:58.380
the United States. Jonathan David? Yeah, Jonathan

01:16:58.380 --> 01:17:01.000
David was born in the United States and does

01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:04.300
not play for the USA. Come on. I think he had

01:17:04.300 --> 01:17:08.159
the one -time switch too. Oh, did they put him

01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.060
on our team for a little bit? Maybe at the youth

01:17:11.060 --> 01:17:15.979
level. Yeah, well. It would sure be nice if we

01:17:15.979 --> 01:17:19.779
had a player of his quality on our team. It looks

01:17:19.779 --> 01:17:23.739
like, no, he's been at Canada since U17. Born

01:17:23.739 --> 01:17:30.279
in Brooklyn, New York. They moved to Haiti when

01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.460
he was a baby and then immigrated to Ottawa.

01:17:33.180 --> 01:17:39.060
Should have brought him in. Big mistake. Damn

01:17:39.060 --> 01:17:40.720
it. Especially because we need a nine at the

01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:46.069
national level. Right. That's for our U .S. men's

01:17:46.069 --> 01:17:48.510
national team edition of the show. How do you

01:17:48.510 --> 01:17:54.130
guys feel about Pochettino? Fine. I mean, I think

01:17:54.130 --> 01:17:56.510
he did pretty well considering we had a bunch

01:17:56.510 --> 01:17:58.409
of trash players on the field and all our starters

01:17:58.409 --> 01:18:01.510
were gone. They didn't want to go. Remember,

01:18:01.670 --> 01:18:05.510
Pulisic needed some rest. He wanted to go to

01:18:05.510 --> 01:18:09.189
Cancun. Yep. I think he should have not let them

01:18:09.189 --> 01:18:10.850
go. I think they should have said, well, then

01:18:10.850 --> 01:18:13.479
you're not going to be in the World Cup. Landon

01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.220
Donovan was talking about it with the goalkeeper,

01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:21.140
Tim Howard, saying that in our day, the Gold

01:18:21.140 --> 01:18:24.500
Cup before the World Cup was when, okay, these

01:18:24.500 --> 01:18:28.079
are our rotations coming up for the World Cup,

01:18:28.100 --> 01:18:29.479
and we're going to run them now and see how they

01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.239
work. And he should have just said, you got to

01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:36.119
come. So my guess is that U .S. soccer is let

01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:39.760
them be babies and not do that. Yeah, I think

01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:42.090
it. the entitlement that they feel just because

01:18:42.090 --> 01:18:47.630
they're in Europe. Yeah, my excitement for the

01:18:47.630 --> 01:18:52.109
U .S. Mints team is probably at a record low

01:18:52.109 --> 01:18:57.750
right now. Terrible time for it to happen with

01:18:57.750 --> 01:19:00.329
the World Cup coming up. In the United States,

01:19:00.369 --> 01:19:04.949
no less. Oh, yeah. Don't worry, Dan. It's not

01:19:04.949 --> 01:19:06.689
too late to do the one -time switch to root for

01:19:06.689 --> 01:19:11.909
Mexico. Yeah, it's that easy. Or Canada. That's

01:19:11.909 --> 01:19:15.449
actually hilarious. Are you going to one -time

01:19:15.449 --> 01:19:17.770
switch like you did from Portland to Seattle?

01:19:17.970 --> 01:19:21.390
Is this what we're talking about? Moving from

01:19:21.390 --> 01:19:25.130
Seattle to Portland is not even the closest going

01:19:25.130 --> 01:19:27.710
from U .S. to Mexico. I haven't even gone to

01:19:27.710 --> 01:19:30.369
a Portland game. You're going to keep bringing

01:19:30.369 --> 01:19:32.329
that up until you burn the jersey. I know. You

01:19:32.329 --> 01:19:33.670
said you're going to burn that jersey. I haven't

01:19:33.670 --> 01:19:35.510
seen any pictures of that jersey burning yet.

01:19:35.869 --> 01:19:39.710
I said I was going to burn it on the 4th of October

01:19:39.710 --> 01:19:42.029
when we play against the Timbers. That's a long

01:19:42.029 --> 01:19:43.649
ways away, but it's a good birthday present.

01:19:43.649 --> 01:19:46.569
Better be on YouTube as soon as it happens. Yeah,

01:19:46.590 --> 01:19:48.289
I'm going to get arrested. Are you guys going

01:19:48.289 --> 01:19:51.409
to pay my bill? Oh, this should be for the Patreon.

01:19:51.850 --> 01:19:55.750
Yeah. There you go. Or a little jersey roast.

01:19:56.270 --> 01:19:58.409
Yeah, but we all got to do it together, so whenever

01:19:58.409 --> 01:20:07.180
that happens. So here we go. Here's the Patreon

01:20:07.180 --> 01:20:09.560
episode. We're going to go to downtown Portland

01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:12.859
and we're going to watch Alex. Oh, he just, I

01:20:12.859 --> 01:20:15.300
think he just got off. Yeah. He didn't like the

01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:20.199
idea. Hold up. I'm looking for something. He

01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:22.319
was excited that we weren't going to hold him

01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:24.260
to it. So we didn't know he was a Portland fan

01:20:24.260 --> 01:20:26.500
to begin with. While he's looking for that, I

01:20:26.500 --> 01:20:28.720
will say I did see a post right now from yesterday

01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:30.859
of someone posting the Sounders logo, but the

01:20:30.859 --> 01:20:35.779
two stars on the top are red. Red cards, we keep

01:20:35.779 --> 01:20:38.079
getting. That's because I was actually going

01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:40.579
to give it to you as a gift, Cameron. I was going

01:20:40.579 --> 01:20:43.500
to give you the Portland jersey. I would not

01:20:43.500 --> 01:20:46.479
have any use of a Portland jersey. Well, you

01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:48.739
said you were short on toilet paper. Yeah, that

01:20:48.739 --> 01:20:55.029
is true. Oh, there it is. Oh, that's so ugly.

01:20:55.789 --> 01:21:01.350
Yeah. What do we do with that? We're going to

01:21:01.350 --> 01:21:05.710
burn it. All I'm going to say is I'm glad that

01:21:05.710 --> 01:21:07.569
people are listening to this podcast instead

01:21:07.569 --> 01:21:10.609
of seeing the podcast. Right. They didn't see

01:21:10.609 --> 01:21:12.649
that. They didn't have to see one of the olders

01:21:12.649 --> 01:21:16.229
holding up a Portland jersey. I will say that.

01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:19.640
If you were a Portland fan and want to become

01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:22.859
a Sounders fan, you're more than welcome. You

01:21:22.859 --> 01:21:25.399
know, there's people that have done wrong in

01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:27.979
their lives and they've repented and become better

01:21:27.979 --> 01:21:31.840
people. It's understandable. Maybe you were confused.

01:21:31.939 --> 01:21:34.479
You grew up there and it took you to realize

01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.140
that Portland is just like that petulant little

01:21:37.140 --> 01:21:39.539
sibling that is not as cool as the older sibling

01:21:39.539 --> 01:21:43.060
up North. So come root for the Sounders, real

01:21:43.060 --> 01:21:48.260
soccer city, USA. There's a small fee, though,

01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:51.739
for the Switch. You have to join the Patreon.

01:21:52.460 --> 01:21:55.560
Yeah, join the Patreon. Perfect. And join the

01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:58.640
Discord. That's when we'll know you're legit.

01:21:59.020 --> 01:22:00.880
Yeah, that's when we know you're a real Sounders

01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:06.279
fan. It was on clearance, and I'm a... I was

01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:11.479
young. Those are the other teams. I have other

01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.119
teams' jerseys. I have a Nashville jersey. I

01:22:14.119 --> 01:22:16.939
have a Washington, D .C., D .C. United jersey.

01:22:17.619 --> 01:22:20.199
I just bought a St. Louis jersey the other day.

01:22:20.939 --> 01:22:24.979
I didn't buy a St. Louis. Who did I buy? An Ajax

01:22:24.979 --> 01:22:30.539
jersey. Trailblazers, I would buy a Trailblazers

01:22:30.539 --> 01:22:34.210
jersey, but that's it. No, I wouldn't. I saw

01:22:34.210 --> 01:22:37.489
the weirdest Jersey. Cause I looked it up after

01:22:37.489 --> 01:22:38.989
I was like, wait, did he ever play for them?

01:22:39.029 --> 01:22:42.949
I saw, I was in, I was in a, I think it was Fremont

01:22:42.949 --> 01:22:46.590
at like the, like one of those, you know, basement

01:22:46.590 --> 01:22:49.909
kind of thrift shop, like, you know, vintage

01:22:49.909 --> 01:22:54.050
stores. And I saw an IX Jersey that was black

01:22:54.050 --> 01:22:56.710
and it had red and green. Like it was, they're

01:22:56.710 --> 01:22:59.350
doing some kind of Rasta thing. Oh yeah. And

01:22:59.350 --> 01:23:03.720
on the. on the back it the the name on the jersey

01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:07.680
was areola like paul areola and i was like wait

01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:10.520
what like he never played for them did he so

01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:12.720
i looked up you know his career and i couldn't

01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:16.100
find anything and i couldn't find any any areola

01:23:16.100 --> 01:23:18.960
ever playing for iax you know i didn't look too

01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:22.479
hard but i was like what is this jersey like

01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:25.880
it looked legit too it was adidas it was you

01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:28.729
know it looked nice It said Ariel. I think it

01:23:28.729 --> 01:23:30.550
was the number six or something. I was like,

01:23:30.649 --> 01:23:33.590
did somebody just mock this up? It might have

01:23:33.590 --> 01:23:37.250
been like a fan press where they do custom names.

01:23:37.689 --> 01:23:40.390
You probably came across a Sunday League jersey.

01:23:41.630 --> 01:23:45.989
Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know. They did a Bob

01:23:45.989 --> 01:23:48.770
Marley -themed jersey. Yeah, I remember that.

01:23:49.069 --> 01:23:51.829
It's rare, so if someone got rid of that, they're

01:23:51.829 --> 01:23:57.189
crazy. They are crazy. Hold on to that. Well,

01:23:57.210 --> 01:23:59.550
I didn't buy it, so it might still be there.

01:23:59.670 --> 01:24:03.810
Yeah. For all you bargain hunters. I think it's

01:24:03.810 --> 01:24:06.250
time to get out of here. Any final words before

01:24:06.250 --> 01:24:12.970
we move along? No. Sounds like there isn't. All

01:24:12.970 --> 01:24:17.210
out of words. Okay. We'll leave it there. They

01:24:17.210 --> 01:24:21.670
can find you all on the Discord. Oh, look at

01:24:21.670 --> 01:24:29.840
that. A Pulisic jersey. AC Milan. AC Milan. Yeah,

01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:33.600
I have a Chelsea one of his. I have a whole bunch

01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:39.880
of jerseys. Mr. Glass. Always broken. But I think

01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:42.239
it's a perfect time to say farewell. We'll be

01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:46.659
back in a week or so. And everybody have fun

01:24:46.659 --> 01:24:48.939
this week. Two Sounders matches. Good times.

01:24:49.060 --> 01:24:52.140
I look forward to talking to you all next week

01:24:52.140 --> 01:24:56.310
with six more points. Perfect. Let's do it all.

01:24:56.489 --> 01:25:08.310
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