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It's time for Scuttlebutt Ultras. Quick takes

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from our Patreon Ultras, sharing their soundest

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thoughts straight from the heart. Your voice,

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your moment. Hello and welcome to Scuttlebutt

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Ultras, an offshoot of the Sounders Scuttlebutt

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podcast. I'm here with the three Ultras, Dan,

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Alex, and Cedar. What is up, guys? Hey, what's

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going on? Hey, guys. This is Cameron, of course,

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one of the hosts of Sounders Scuttlebutt. Currently,

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hopefully Aaron doesn't listen to this episode

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before because he watches it, but the Mariners

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are up 5 -0 in the seventh inning in New York.

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Not the important part. Brian Wu is pitching

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a no -hitter through six so far. So I have it

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on just in case. I don't like to talk about no

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-hitters ever. I won't usually talk about them,

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but I got a text about it. So I figured once

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you're in the seventh, you're supposed to be

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allowed to talk about it. So we'll let it happen.

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I've been the one no -hitter in real life. I

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was there when Iwakuma had a no -hitter on my

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mom's birthday. So that was pretty fun. Nice.

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The only thing that wouldn't make it better is

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if he's on LSD. Doc Ellis, was that his name?

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Yeah, personal hero of mine. That's pretty awesome.

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People know who you are, and we've recorded and

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scrapped several times different topics and episodes,

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but this is going to be a standalone series that

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takes place in between other episodes of the

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show because the people said, we want more Ultras.

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So that is what we're getting. I'm just going

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to start it off with something sad just because

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it broke today. Garth Loggerway has stepped away

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from Atlanta United because he has been diagnosed

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with cancer. And I got to know Garth pretty well.

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So it's pretty... He's just a really good dude.

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When we won the CONCACAF Champions League...

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He pulled me down and gave me a big hug. And

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I was like, you did it. And he's like, no, we

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did it. Like just such an amazing dude. And I

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was talking to him at the end of last season

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a little bit about a project I'm working on.

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And then some stuff got in the way from doing

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it. So hopefully I'll get a chance to do some

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work with him here in the future. Knock on wood,

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everything goes well with his recovery. But pretty

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sad day in the Sounders community. never even,

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I mean, you know, it's not over. He can fight

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it. He can win, but never fun when someone gets

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cancer. No, not at all. And plus, I think we

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kind of missed the times when Garth was our GM

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and we were winning championships. A lot of good

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memories with him. That's for sure. But yeah,

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we're all, we're all sending him our, our thoughts.

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Absolutely. Good thoughts his way. Please do.

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Please do. All right, boys, let's talk about

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some soccer here. We just well, first, let's

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not go Sounders. Let's talk about the Club World

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Cup final. We all got a chance to either attend

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or watch Club World Cup matches involving the

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Sounders. And now the final is Chelsea versus

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Paris Saint -Germain. What's the feeling on how

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that final is going to end up being and how the

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tournament's been for y 'all? I mean, first off,

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I want to say congratulations to PSG for winning

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the Club World Cup. The funny thing is, I've

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only been a PSG fan for 25 years. I've been a

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Chelsea supporter for 30. So this is a tough

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one for me. You're going to have to have like

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that one Simpson. Yeah, you've got a real choice.

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Yeah. I'm going to sit back and enjoy it like

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I did the PSG Sounders match. Wear a PSG and

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then a Chelsea kit on top, and then once Chelsea

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lose, take it off. Like the guy at the Mexico

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match? USA -Mexico match? You see that? They

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were like, you need to choose, so he chose Mexico.

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Kind of like Obed Vargas. Too soon. Well, it

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turned out to be the right choice on Sunday.

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Yes. Absolutely. How about you, Cedar? How did

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you enjoy? Are you enjoying the Club World Cup

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as we're coming down? One match left this weekend.

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Yeah, it's been good. It's nice seeing these

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other teams lose to PSG by more than we lost

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to them. So I'm enjoying that. I'm enjoying it.

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I'm like, hey, are we better than Real Madrid?

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Maybe. Only losing 2 -0. That's pretty good.

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Obviously. It's been fun. It should be an entertaining

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final, although I don't see anybody beating PSG

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right now. They're steamrolling everybody. We'll

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see. It's going to take something special. How

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about you, Dan? I know you did your best to watch

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the Sounders matches. I think you were... Had

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your phone maybe at a doctor's appointment and

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at a wedding, maybe on an airplane trip across

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the ocean. I mean, I feel like you just had your

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phone everywhere watching these matches. The

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things that my family expects of me when the

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Sounders are on is ridiculous. I actually watched

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the last match here against Columbus Crew at

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an eight -year -old's birthday party sitting

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in my car while they were spending an hour to

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bust a pinata. Give me that. I'll bust the pinata

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for you. It was ridiculous. But for the World

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Cup, whichever team knocks us out, I always want

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that team to win it all because I can say, hey,

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at least we lost to the best team. My biggest

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takeaway so far from the World Cup is Miami got

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thrashed so bad by PSG that they decided to spend

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another 30 mil on a transfer fee so they can

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keep up with the team that's last in the league

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in transfer fees. Yeah, it's true. They, of course,

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are going after Alex. You'll know his name, but

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the Atletico Madrid player. Rodrigo de Paul.

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I was going to say Paul Rodrigo, so that was

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clearly wrong. There was a meme during the World

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Cup in 2022. That was Messi's bodyguard on the

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field. Okay. So if someone fouled him, he was

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real quick to get a yellow. So it makes sense

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that he's wanting to bring over his enforcer.

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Yeah. Didn't they kick out his actual security

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guard off the field? I think they might have.

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There was some drama. But yeah, so the Sounders,

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of course, are not in it. You can buy a cool

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trophy, though, I saw. We were talking about

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it on the last episode of Scuttlebutt, where

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you... can get the actual replica of the Club

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World Cup trophy with the Sounders thing in the

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background that says qualified. How much does

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that sell for? Nice. I might get one just to,

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since I'm guaranteed a trophy at this point.

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Although I did, I ordered a couple bootleg. Club

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World Cup jerseys for Chelsea and PSG. And I

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was really excited about them. But then I saw

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a friend just got something in from China today

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and had a $69 .99 bill that came with a COD because

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of tariffs. I'm pretty sure that all you have

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to do is just whatever you file for your taxes

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next year, you send it to China and then China

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pays you back. Okay. I'll try that. man they're

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coming for you cedar i know i i live in a i live

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right next to like a fire department and a police

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station and yeah there's always something going

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on that was the irs going after dan for trying

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to not pay oh man wait till they find out that

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i'm a never mind dun dun dun so the sounders

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uh we You know, interesting run going on in,

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I guess, a series of games that we should win.

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How are we feeling? Just what's the overall feel

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for you all of the Sounders? Does one of you

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speak up and run with it? Eventually, we'll get

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the hang down of people just talking over each

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other in a good way. But for now, just one of

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you start talking. Let's talk about this. How

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are you feeling? We're in, what, fifth place

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right now? I've had a... I've been constantly

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arguing with myself since the last game, which

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I felt pretty good going into. And on one hand,

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I really like Seattle's performance. I think

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Seattle looked like the better team for at least

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half the game, and I think they deserve to win

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the game. So with these games coming up, I think

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overall we're in place to finish fourth or third

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in the league. I think that's probably going

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to be our landing spot at the end of the year.

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I mean, we are three points behind Portland right

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now. Same number of games on 30 points as Brian

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Wu gets a strikeout and now has a no -hitter

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through seven. How about that? Six more outs,

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people. God, we could be doing history right

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here just talking about it during a no -hitter.

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I once had tickets to a game, and I was at the

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dentist, and I heard the game on the radio, and

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I just assumed it was a replay of the game the

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night before. And then I was getting ready to

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head down to the game I had tickets for, found

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out it was a day game when I got a text from

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KGR saying, Felix pitched a perfect game. So

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I did not attend the perfect game, but I had

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ticket steps for it somewhere. So technically,

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you had tickets to the game. Yeah, I have the

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tickets from the game. But if you were there

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in person is another question. No, I was not.

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There was a series of games in a row for the

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next two years. Whenever I gave away my tickets,

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the Mariners had a no -hitter the next time,

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and then they had a combined no -hitter the time

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after that. So there was a while where it was

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good to give me Mariners' tickets, and then I

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give them away. I think you can call that on

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your... Oh, go ahead. I mean, it's kind of like

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the Club World Cup tickets. Did we have tickets

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to the game, but did we sit where we were supposed

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to? No. Probably not. I did one game. Cool game.

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What were you going to say, Dan? I was going

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to say you could probably file those ticks you

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gave away as charity on your taxes and China

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will pay for it. We're going to get shut down.

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No, see, here's the thing is the first big Trump

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tax bill, the first time they lowered tax rates

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for every single type of business except for

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lawyers and dentists. So we were the two that...

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didn't get our tax breaks because uh i guess

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we have bad lobbies of course they are the two

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uh professions who at the time had the highest

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suicide rates so what the hell man yeah um i

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think that can wow yeah this is this is trump

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tax scuttlebutt and death watch let's do it go

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let me go get another beer Let me go get one.

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What about you, Cedar? How are you feeling about

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the Sounders right now as we're coming off a

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1 -1 draw versus Columbus? Pretty good. I mean,

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as we know, as we've talked about, Columbus are

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a really good team. And I think, yeah, that seemed

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like a game that we could have won. And, you

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know, obviously we didn't. and you know some

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scary stuff with steph at the end like hopefully

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he's okay try yeah we can talk about that yeah

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i mean you know i'm i'm i'm uh i'm not like too

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i'm concerned about him obviously and obviously

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we want him to be okay and i know like you know

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christian's gone through some scary concussions

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before and and it's nothing to mess around with

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but i i am i'm you know i'm fine with andy thomas

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being in goal he's more than capable um and just

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moving forward i mean everybody everybody who's

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had to fill in for one injury or another has

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you know performed overall pretty admirably so

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i'm i'm not concerned about our performance on

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the field in that aspect and yeah i thought that

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was a really good game against a really you know

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a really really good crew team um we got them

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under their normal you know rate of possession

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and uh we we kind of played their game back at

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them we we had a 1 .7 expected goals to their

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0 .8 so you know you would have you would have

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liked to have seen a score maybe one or two more

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goals but i'll take a i'll take a point against

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a really really good team what do you think alex

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i think rothrock could have scored that second

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shot and um Jesus, that volley in the beginning

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of the game, I knew it was going to come back

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to bite us in the ass. Yeah, he leaned back just

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a bit too far on that one. Should have, could

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have, would have been a wide open goal. He was

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trying to do the matrix and leaning back, dodging

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bullets. No, I think overall, I was surprised

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that we only had held Columbus to one goal. And

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there was a... long stretch of the game where

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they were dominating us in possession and looking

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at their passes compared to ours they had what

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613 passes to our 457 and there was there was

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a lot of the same mo sounders like recycle the

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ball on the back go forward and we're going to

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recycle it again and what led to our goal was

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that Obed recovered the ball, and then the ball

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sort of got recycled. And then they gave a ball

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to Kalani. Kalani took his first touch forward,

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which caused this to break the lines, and then

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he gave it off to Rothrock, where he was able

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to finish it first time. Yeah. Yeah, him cutting

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through at the top of the box, oh my god, that

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was so nice to see. And that pass to Rothrock

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was perfect, because he undercooks it, it gets

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intercepted, overcooks it, Rothrock is... near

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the touchline it was it was kind of perfect and

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funnily enough it's again it's the two you know

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local kids rothrock and and kkr getting it done

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where you know pedro's on the bench kent was

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on the bench at that point i think and you know

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jesus missed his chance right so it's ironic

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and then his celebration he said it's my time

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He pointed, well, he pointed to his wrist. I

00:15:55.990 --> 00:15:57.309
don't know if he was pointing like to a watch,

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but the way that I saw it was like, it's my time.

00:16:01.110 --> 00:16:03.909
Like it's his time to shine. He keeps proving

00:16:03.909 --> 00:16:06.230
it, right? At this point, you can't really bench

00:16:06.230 --> 00:16:08.789
him. Yeah. I mean, what do you do? What do you

00:16:08.789 --> 00:16:10.850
do when you have a Ryan Kent and Pedro de la

00:16:10.850 --> 00:16:12.429
Vega on the bench, Dan? What do you, what do

00:16:12.429 --> 00:16:16.629
you, how do you handle this? One of them on the

00:16:16.629 --> 00:16:19.809
right. No, I keep cycling through on the right

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until you got it figured out. Cause Jesus, he,

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He doesn't have it figured out to the level that

00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:31.840
we're scoring with him. But neither does Pedro

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and Kent. Kent looked, I still, whenever I go

00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:37.779
to sleep at night, I have dreams of Kent and

00:16:37.779 --> 00:16:39.940
Morris both streaking down the field together

00:16:39.940 --> 00:16:42.980
to both get in the box on breakaways, just like

00:16:42.980 --> 00:16:44.759
they did in the St. Louis game. Yeah, they didn't

00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:46.240
produce a goal, but they only did it for five

00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:49.850
minutes. I think that is a... That's a vision,

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and maybe we'll see that whenever Morris comes

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back. But right now, the pessimistic side of

00:16:54.370 --> 00:16:58.690
me is we had Jesus with his foot on the ball,

00:16:58.850 --> 00:17:01.830
one -on -one with the goalie. We had Rothrock

00:17:01.830 --> 00:17:03.389
with his foot on the ball, one -on -one with

00:17:03.389 --> 00:17:07.329
the goalie. We had Morris right in front of the

00:17:07.329 --> 00:17:09.210
goal, and the ball gets tangled at his feet.

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And then our center back misses a header or two

00:17:13.950 --> 00:17:16.650
in the box. So, I mean, there was four chances

00:17:16.650 --> 00:17:17.869
right there that we could have put away four

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points. So I'm still concerned that whenever

00:17:22.990 --> 00:17:26.730
we don't score, a lot of times it's us not scoring

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and not the defense just making a hell of a play.

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And that concerns me going forward. I mean, to

00:17:34.150 --> 00:17:36.829
add to your point, we only had two shots on target.

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With those folks with their foot on the ball

00:17:41.650 --> 00:17:43.549
right in front of it. But at the same time, you

00:17:43.549 --> 00:17:47.200
know, they were. What they did up and to the

00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.059
box, I think, was outstanding. And I think the

00:17:49.059 --> 00:17:51.259
way that they want to play is they want to be

00:17:51.259 --> 00:17:53.180
able to recycle the ball back. That way it's

00:17:53.180 --> 00:17:55.759
just not everybody sitting there at the box against

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a packed defense. They want to cycle the ball

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back, suck the defense back out, and then put

00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:03.259
those balls through like they did to Kalani.

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And we've seen some success the last couple weeks

00:18:07.019 --> 00:18:09.220
with that. We just need a little bit more finishing

00:18:09.220 --> 00:18:13.809
right there in front of the goal. Where are you

00:18:13.809 --> 00:18:16.329
at on it, Cedar? I know Nick and I have an ongoing

00:18:16.329 --> 00:18:19.130
debate on the podcast because what I'm seeing

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is we're not scoring more than a goal most of

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the time, and yet we should be scoring four or

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five a game, it feels like, based on the places

00:18:28.450 --> 00:18:31.569
we're getting the ball. How are you feeling about

00:18:31.569 --> 00:18:33.910
this team and their ability to score and or not

00:18:33.910 --> 00:18:40.869
score? Well, I mean, against a team like Columbus,

00:18:41.900 --> 00:18:48.660
I'm going to be a little... Can you hear me?

00:18:48.940 --> 00:18:51.759
Yeah, they just lost the no -hitter. Mariners

00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:56.180
did in the bottom of the eighth. Sorry, go ahead.

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Get distracted by that. Magic's over. No, no,

00:19:01.740 --> 00:19:06.279
no. Yeah, the thrill's gone, guys. Let's call

00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:12.119
it a day. No, I mean... I mean, I don't know.

00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:15.160
Against Columbus, they're a really good team.

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So I'm not too concerned. Like Alex alluded to

00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:23.539
earlier, if Rothrock had scored the second, that

00:19:23.539 --> 00:19:29.039
would have been nice. But I think moving forward

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once, again, I got to see how Jordan looks when

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he comes back and is starting again and everything.

00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.579
After that, yeah, they may still face the same

00:19:43.579 --> 00:19:47.859
criticism of like, okay, we're so good in the

00:19:47.859 --> 00:19:50.539
midfield. We're great at defending. We're great

00:19:50.539 --> 00:19:54.359
getting the ball to the final third. But then

00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:59.440
when it comes to actually linking together the

00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.859
passes needed to break through the defense and

00:20:01.859 --> 00:20:05.759
actually score, it's so hit or miss. I mean,

00:20:05.779 --> 00:20:09.680
it took a really, really just... you know, inch

00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:15.039
perfect play by Kalani to weave through the defenders

00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.819
and a perfect pass for us to score. And it was

00:20:18.819 --> 00:20:21.740
great. But again, can we, can we rely on that

00:20:21.740 --> 00:20:25.339
every week? I don't know if we can. Next week.

00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:29.440
Yeah. Oh God. Yeah, that's right. Well, and that

00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:34.539
too, it's like, what I, that's what, that's three

00:20:34.539 --> 00:20:38.319
times in the last. three league games that that's

00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.839
happened to us. And then we had two earlier this

00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:44.640
year where they're writing and, you know, knew

00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.180
who it's just, I don't know what that is. I mean,

00:20:48.180 --> 00:20:51.900
that's just gotta be, it's just a mental lapse,

00:20:52.140 --> 00:20:55.200
isn't it? You know, not, not being aware of,

00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:59.099
of your, of the game state, your surroundings,

00:20:59.099 --> 00:21:01.819
like, Oh, you're already on a yellow, then don't,

00:21:01.819 --> 00:21:06.720
don't pick up another. So, but yeah, I, I don't

00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.759
know. I'm still going to wait and see. I mean,

00:21:08.779 --> 00:21:13.200
we still have half of the season left, but yeah,

00:21:13.339 --> 00:21:17.839
I'm, I still think they're, they need, they need

00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:20.880
something. They need, you know, some extra level

00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.000
to hit because right now we're, we're just not

00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.099
seeing that because you could see this team functioning

00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:29.299
on firing on all cylinders, scoring three or

00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:31.599
four game. Like that's, that's where they should

00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:37.690
be realistically. And they're not. I mean, let's

00:21:37.690 --> 00:21:39.869
talk about that red card real quick. Dan, I think

00:21:39.869 --> 00:21:41.369
you can say this happened to us earlier in the

00:21:41.369 --> 00:21:45.549
season, too, where we had multiple games. But

00:21:45.549 --> 00:21:48.910
that felt like a really soft yellow. That dude

00:21:48.910 --> 00:21:51.210
was looking for that contact and went down. Christian

00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:55.910
deserved a red. Yeah. And so maybe that's it

00:21:55.910 --> 00:21:59.650
balancing out, right? Yeah. I was actually going

00:21:59.650 --> 00:22:01.450
to say we had it a couple times earlier in the

00:22:01.450 --> 00:22:04.170
year where we had players twice. A player deserved

00:22:04.170 --> 00:22:07.190
a red, a second a yellow. And the ref pulled

00:22:07.190 --> 00:22:09.410
it out and put it back after he realized. And

00:22:09.410 --> 00:22:13.269
so some of it is a ref decision, the way that

00:22:13.269 --> 00:22:15.190
the ref is calling the particular game. And so

00:22:15.190 --> 00:22:17.789
maybe that has a little more to do in the calculus

00:22:17.789 --> 00:22:22.509
for these two younger players. But yeah, we had

00:22:22.509 --> 00:22:24.869
two games earlier this year where the ref was

00:22:24.869 --> 00:22:29.029
reaching into the pocket until he realizes. And

00:22:29.029 --> 00:22:32.730
that's frustrating to see. You know, it all balances

00:22:32.730 --> 00:22:35.269
it out at the end. But it's frustrating to see

00:22:35.269 --> 00:22:37.710
because you think Kalani's got to be close to

00:22:37.710 --> 00:22:41.089
winning that job, especially since Brian decided

00:22:41.089 --> 00:22:45.109
to keep Alex Rodon back at CB. You know, part

00:22:45.109 --> 00:22:47.150
of that had to do with how good Kalani was playing.

00:22:48.710 --> 00:22:51.289
Yeah, it seems like maybe that's the answer,

00:22:51.410 --> 00:22:53.670
right? Especially with our – I mean, we have

00:22:53.670 --> 00:22:56.269
so many center backs out. I think four were out

00:22:56.269 --> 00:22:59.920
last match. Mm -hmm. So – The fact that we have

00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:03.059
Alex back there is pretty huge. Oh, it's just

00:23:03.059 --> 00:23:07.119
the Roldan brothers, they're supermen. They really

00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:08.720
are. They can play anywhere on the pitch, and

00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:11.539
they can do a good shift just about regardless

00:23:11.539 --> 00:23:13.579
of the position. And they both give it their

00:23:13.579 --> 00:23:15.440
all, too. They're both Brian Smetzer -type players.

00:23:15.539 --> 00:23:17.099
They're going to go out there and work harder

00:23:17.099 --> 00:23:23.039
than the other team. Who are you starting at

00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.299
right back, Alex? Kalani. I've been saying it

00:23:26.299 --> 00:23:28.960
all year. What he brings to the offense is what

00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:32.539
Alex is lacking. But what Alex brings to the

00:23:32.539 --> 00:23:36.859
defense is what keeps him on the field. But overall,

00:23:36.980 --> 00:23:38.839
if I'm the coach picking a lineup, I'm picking

00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:41.220
Kalani just for the offensive upside, especially

00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:49.460
when we're struggling to score goals. Yeah. So

00:23:49.460 --> 00:23:54.900
let's talk about it then. Stephen Fry. Pretty

00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:59.660
brutal. Of course, it always looks worse than

00:23:59.660 --> 00:24:05.240
it is, but he, I mean, frankly, he probably fouled

00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.799
the player on the other team with his head because

00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.900
he didn't hit the ball or anything. It came flying

00:24:10.900 --> 00:24:16.700
out of nowhere, but scary moment for sure. How

00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:19.200
were y 'all? Alex, you were not in person, right?

00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.920
No, I was watching live, but they showed it on

00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:25.900
the broadcast. Yeah, so what was it like? I mean,

00:24:25.940 --> 00:24:30.160
at the game, everyone was worried, but it was

00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.579
kind of like, this is what they always do in

00:24:32.579 --> 00:24:34.279
these situations. They're going to put you on

00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.740
the board just to be safe, stuff like that. I

00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:38.559
mean, it was obviously scary because he had the

00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.720
reaction you get when you're just knocked out

00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:43.980
completely. Yeah, the fencing posture, I think

00:24:43.980 --> 00:24:49.359
is what it's called. Yeah, so what were you feeling

00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:53.109
in those moments when that happened? Man, I was

00:24:53.109 --> 00:24:56.289
just, you know, I was just hoping that it was

00:24:56.289 --> 00:24:58.410
more so just that it looked worse than it was.

00:24:58.430 --> 00:25:02.230
Like there was no injury to like his neck, his

00:25:02.230 --> 00:25:07.650
spine, or like a head fracture. But as we saw,

00:25:07.650 --> 00:25:10.890
there was not really any blood. So it was more

00:25:10.890 --> 00:25:13.069
so he was just like concussed, like he was out.

00:25:13.190 --> 00:25:15.009
Like my first reaction when I seen him, I was

00:25:15.009 --> 00:25:18.349
like, oh shit, he's knocked out. And then he

00:25:18.349 --> 00:25:22.579
started fencing up. And it just, like, it sucks

00:25:22.579 --> 00:25:25.420
because the Columbus Crew player didn't have

00:25:25.420 --> 00:25:28.440
any malicious intent. Like, they both went for

00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:32.220
the ball. Fry came on the way down. Like, he

00:25:32.220 --> 00:25:36.720
just happened to, like, it was an unstoppable

00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.859
force meets an immovable object. And they just,

00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:43.160
like, hit each other head on. And it just sucks

00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:45.359
because Fry went in with his head and the other

00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:49.099
player went in with his leg. Like, it just happens

00:25:49.099 --> 00:25:52.980
in the sport. It's a contact sport, and all we

00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:58.079
hope is that Fry's going to be okay, which he

00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:02.180
had a cheeky tweet on Sunday saying that he was

00:26:02.180 --> 00:26:05.700
back home resting, so that was good news. I mean,

00:26:05.700 --> 00:26:09.460
he was at practice the next day, or Monday. He

00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:11.079
showed up, even though they told him he didn't

00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.200
need to, so he clearly is making the best of

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:17.240
a bad situation. But I got to imagine, I get

00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:20.920
a sore neck from sleeping wrong. hitting your

00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.960
head like that can't be good no yeah i was just

00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:30.000
at 39 too yeah yeah i was just like damn like

00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:36.059
it just looked it looked bad on tv absolutely

00:26:36.059 --> 00:26:39.079
cedar where uh what were you thinking when it

00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:55.859
went on You might be on mute. Can you hear us,

00:26:55.900 --> 00:26:59.980
Cedar? I can hear you guys. I think my connection's

00:26:59.980 --> 00:27:02.480
a little spotty. I seem to be going in and out.

00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.000
Okay. I just asked you how you were feeling when

00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.539
you saw the Fry play. Oh, yeah. It reminded me

00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:17.079
kind of of I guess it was a couple years ago

00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:22.430
when Tua Tungvaloa got knocked out and he was,

00:27:22.430 --> 00:27:24.470
you know, on the ground and you could see his

00:27:24.470 --> 00:27:27.250
fingers twitching. It was, it was really scary.

00:27:27.670 --> 00:27:31.589
It wasn't quite at that level of like, you know,

00:27:31.589 --> 00:27:37.549
contact football play, but I mean, of, of his,

00:27:37.750 --> 00:27:40.450
you know, how Fry was on the ground twitching

00:27:40.450 --> 00:27:42.569
around, like, but it was kind of like that, you

00:27:42.569 --> 00:27:46.250
know, it was really, it was eerie and uncanny

00:27:46.250 --> 00:27:48.990
to see. So. I'm just glad that he's doing okay.

00:27:49.109 --> 00:27:53.190
And I'm good on both the coaches for, you know,

00:27:53.190 --> 00:27:55.809
agreeing to stop the game. Cause you know, what

00:27:55.809 --> 00:27:59.029
are you like? Yeah. Even though Columbus is owed

00:27:59.029 --> 00:28:01.849
a corner there, you know, what are you going

00:28:01.849 --> 00:28:06.089
to do? Keep playing. That's crazy. So yeah, lots

00:28:06.089 --> 00:28:09.410
of respect to Wilfred Nancy for agreeing to that.

00:28:09.490 --> 00:28:13.710
And yeah, really, really good to see them deal

00:28:13.710 --> 00:28:18.690
with it the way it should be dealt with. I don't

00:28:18.690 --> 00:28:22.950
know you necessarily get that exchange from every

00:28:22.950 --> 00:28:25.910
single combination of coaches in the league.

00:28:26.009 --> 00:28:31.609
So it was good to see. What about you, Dan? Yeah,

00:28:31.650 --> 00:28:34.809
for me it was. And so this is probably one of

00:28:34.809 --> 00:28:36.890
the times that Washington at home maybe was more

00:28:36.890 --> 00:28:38.529
impactful than being in the stands emotionally

00:28:38.529 --> 00:28:42.710
because you could just see the violence of it.

00:28:44.059 --> 00:28:46.400
There was violence involved with that knee hitting

00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.920
the head. It was rough to watch. And then somebody,

00:28:50.099 --> 00:28:51.680
I was really surprised. You know, I've never

00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.019
even met Fry, right? It's just somebody I've

00:28:55.019 --> 00:28:58.920
seen on TV or at the game playing. But the emotion,

00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.880
I think a lot of it had to do, it was a culmination

00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.759
of a really tough week for soccer and then maybe

00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.549
even Seattle fandom with. As a Liverpool fan,

00:29:08.769 --> 00:29:11.009
waking up and getting the news of Jada and somebody

00:29:11.009 --> 00:29:12.930
that really introduced me to the sport, watching

00:29:12.930 --> 00:29:15.809
Liverpool was the first club team I followed.

00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:19.789
And then JP, I don't think you can't be a Sounders

00:29:19.789 --> 00:29:23.809
fan and just feel the pain of somebody at that

00:29:23.809 --> 00:29:25.470
stage in their career and somebody that's been

00:29:25.470 --> 00:29:27.609
so important to the Sounders, possibly having

00:29:27.609 --> 00:29:32.670
a career ending injury or likely an end of the

00:29:32.670 --> 00:29:35.180
Sounders career injury. And then to see somebody

00:29:35.180 --> 00:29:37.019
else that you know is at the tail end of their

00:29:37.019 --> 00:29:40.019
career get hit like that, that you really just

00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:43.400
look up to as a fan, it's emotional. I think

00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.220
I'm getting a little emotional now just even

00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:49.160
talking about it. So I was so glad to hear that

00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.599
he is back at home and that he was able to get

00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.720
to practice and see the guys. I bet that was

00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.039
a big deal. Hopefully he took an Uber or a chauffeur

00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:01.859
and didn't drive himself. He likes to walk sometimes.

00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.440
Maybe not all the time there, but he takes the

00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.220
ferry to the games lots of times, and he just

00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:09.180
walks over from the ferry. I've seen him multiple

00:30:09.180 --> 00:30:11.420
times do that. That is so cool. I love that.

00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:18.240
Awesome. Yeah, now as far as on the field, I

00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.819
have a lot of faith in Andy Thomas' ability to

00:30:21.819 --> 00:30:24.380
be in goal, but we're going to admit the leadership

00:30:24.380 --> 00:30:28.400
that Fry provides. You know, it's something to

00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:29.940
be a captain, but think about, you know, being

00:30:29.940 --> 00:30:31.759
a captain and being a goalie at the same time.

00:30:32.059 --> 00:30:34.519
That means that you really are instrumental in

00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.819
that locker room. And Fry does so much with ball

00:30:37.819 --> 00:30:39.980
distribution and then organizing of the defense.

00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.400
And I don't think that Andy's quite there yet

00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.940
on Fry's level for the mental aspect of the game.

00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.519
And so I could see a couple more goals being

00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:55.220
shipped with Fry sidelined and recovering. Yeah,

00:30:55.259 --> 00:30:57.559
I mean, definitely will be a change at the back.

00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.980
I think you saw Nuhu particularly distraught

00:31:00.980 --> 00:31:03.819
and it shows you kind of the relationship that

00:31:03.819 --> 00:31:07.740
the two of them must have, which makes sense,

00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:09.079
right? Because they're working together every

00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:13.519
game and every practice. But respect to all the

00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.559
Columbus players who also were worried and were

00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.259
trying to get the doctor out there immediately.

00:31:19.339 --> 00:31:24.200
And I mean. Yeah, I've got to meet Fry several

00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.460
times and he's just such a fantastic dude and

00:31:27.460 --> 00:31:31.279
just will hang out and talk. And so it hits even

00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.079
harder. And I think Nick mentions this on the

00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.099
last episode, but it did take me back to Steve

00:31:37.099 --> 00:31:39.019
Zaccowani breaking his leg because I had been

00:31:39.019 --> 00:31:41.619
working with Steve at the time on his nonprofit

00:31:41.619 --> 00:31:44.220
and I just walked in seconds after it happened.

00:31:44.299 --> 00:31:46.259
So there was just like this feeling of, oh God,

00:31:46.420 --> 00:31:50.140
that wasn't career ending for Steve, but it was.

00:31:50.809 --> 00:31:52.869
career ending for steve like he came back but

00:31:52.869 --> 00:31:58.029
it was never the same so definitely glad to see

00:31:58.029 --> 00:32:03.650
why kind of back uh in good spirits and hopefully

00:32:03.650 --> 00:32:06.890
you know negative for the ct that's the best

00:32:06.890 --> 00:32:10.589
news right there so uh it's just a question of

00:32:10.589 --> 00:32:12.450
will he make it through concussion protocol and

00:32:12.450 --> 00:32:14.930
hopefully he takes his time and uh we have had

00:32:14.930 --> 00:32:16.950
a sounders goalie before i think it was against

00:32:16.950 --> 00:32:19.069
manchester united and a friendly who hit his

00:32:19.069 --> 00:32:24.759
head and ended up having to retire because of

00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:26.599
it. Was it Terry Boss? It might have been Terry

00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:28.619
Boss. It was one of our third -string goalies.

00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:31.720
Ended up hitting his head on the post during

00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.859
a friendly match with Man U, and that was the

00:32:34.859 --> 00:32:37.599
last game of his career. So you never like to

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regularly scheduled programming. And we're back.

00:34:45.510 --> 00:34:47.809
Yeah, everyone on this podcast is part of the

00:34:47.809 --> 00:34:49.869
Patreon. All four of us, actually, because I

00:34:49.869 --> 00:34:52.530
am too. I pay to be on there, even though it's

00:34:52.530 --> 00:34:59.170
my Patreon. Join. Come have fun with us. And

00:34:59.170 --> 00:35:06.230
join the Discord. Dan, tell me, the Discord,

00:35:06.469 --> 00:35:09.269
what do you get out of it? Why? Why should they

00:35:09.269 --> 00:35:12.579
join? Give me just a second, because I have,

00:35:12.619 --> 00:35:14.599
hopefully you didn't hear all those Amber Alerts

00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.199
I had going off on my phone. Oh, no. Something's

00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:19.699
going on in Tacoma. It didn't happen to me. That's

00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:23.980
interesting. Yeah. It's almost like you silenced

00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:26.000
your phone or something. It's the tax alert.

00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:27.840
Maybe. They've been listening this whole time.

00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:33.800
Yeah, no, it's the tax alert. That's just a notification

00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.679
that China's paying my tariffs. Nothing to worry

00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:40.110
about. i'm sorry what what was it oh patreon

00:35:40.110 --> 00:35:43.750
oh man i i love patreon i meant the discord discord

00:35:43.750 --> 00:35:46.849
discord yeah discord i'm sorry well yeah i love

00:35:46.849 --> 00:35:48.710
the the patreon and the ability to give back

00:35:48.710 --> 00:35:52.110
to this uh this product in this group of people

00:35:52.110 --> 00:35:55.010
so i enjoy that but the the discord absolutely

00:35:55.010 --> 00:35:58.230
it is my personal connection to sounders fans

00:35:58.230 --> 00:36:02.389
uh and i just uh enjoy the conversations we're

00:36:02.389 --> 00:36:04.230
gonna have there i i don't get to work with a

00:36:04.230 --> 00:36:07.050
lot of sounders fans I only got one or two in

00:36:07.050 --> 00:36:09.309
my office. And so most of the people I work with,

00:36:09.449 --> 00:36:10.989
you know, I go in and try to like, Hey, did you

00:36:10.989 --> 00:36:13.210
see this? And they're like, no. And so then I

00:36:13.210 --> 00:36:16.809
can hop on the discord. Uh, and then, uh, you

00:36:16.809 --> 00:36:18.130
know, there's, there's some comparative, it's

00:36:18.130 --> 00:36:20.929
always respectful, uh, conversations, but there's,

00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:23.030
there's debate too. And that's, I enjoy that

00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:24.869
as somebody that enjoys to argue about sports.

00:36:25.289 --> 00:36:28.849
Uh, I, I really enjoy that. So I, I recommend

00:36:28.849 --> 00:36:32.070
if you're listening to this podcast, there's

00:36:32.070 --> 00:36:33.829
no reason you shouldn't be on the disc. Come

00:36:33.829 --> 00:36:37.869
hang out. I just got, uh, Also, my tariff warning

00:36:37.869 --> 00:36:43.309
just came in as well. There you go. But yeah,

00:36:43.409 --> 00:36:46.489
awesome. I agree. Get on there. It's fun. Match

00:36:46.489 --> 00:36:48.210
days are always fun. It's a chance to talk. I

00:36:48.210 --> 00:36:50.030
used to live tweet during matches and I don't

00:36:50.030 --> 00:36:51.989
anymore. Instead, I go in there and talk to everybody

00:36:51.989 --> 00:36:55.929
talking about the game. It's super fun that way.

00:36:57.429 --> 00:36:59.809
So, you know what? We could talk about the next

00:36:59.809 --> 00:37:02.030
game. We could talk about SKC, but I want to

00:37:02.030 --> 00:37:04.230
hear what you all think about League's Cup. coming

00:37:04.230 --> 00:37:07.289
up because that is uh we have what three more

00:37:07.289 --> 00:37:09.730
matches before league's cup and then that starts

00:37:09.730 --> 00:37:12.409
at the end of july where we're playing cruz azul

00:37:12.409 --> 00:37:20.369
and then uh tijuana and uh another team i'm a

00:37:20.369 --> 00:37:23.849
little frustrated because we've just come out

00:37:23.849 --> 00:37:25.869
of a interruption with club world cup back in

00:37:25.869 --> 00:37:27.610
mls play and now it's getting interrupted again

00:37:28.809 --> 00:37:31.210
But it is a chance to make Champions League.

00:37:31.250 --> 00:37:33.630
So how are we feeling headed towards Leeds Cup

00:37:33.630 --> 00:37:39.489
right now? I'm a little excited for it. I want

00:37:39.489 --> 00:37:43.210
another shot at Cruz Azul. They almost derailed

00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:46.269
our season early in the year, put us in a bad

00:37:46.269 --> 00:37:48.289
spot. And it wasn't what they did. It was just

00:37:48.289 --> 00:37:50.769
what happened at the game, in particular with

00:37:50.769 --> 00:37:53.610
the injuries. So I'm excited for another shot

00:37:53.610 --> 00:37:56.309
at them, especially back here in Seattle. Again,

00:37:56.449 --> 00:37:59.110
we played a much better in Seattle. Hopefully

00:37:59.110 --> 00:38:01.349
we can go out there, score some goals. Another

00:38:01.349 --> 00:38:04.110
thing I'm excited is since I've been a Sounders

00:38:04.110 --> 00:38:06.130
fan, we seem to come out on the other end of

00:38:06.130 --> 00:38:08.269
League's Cup a little bit of a better team. And

00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:11.070
it's almost like these tournaments give the guys

00:38:11.070 --> 00:38:14.829
a chance to regroup, reset, maybe even tweak

00:38:14.829 --> 00:38:16.949
some things, because I know Brian says that their

00:38:16.949 --> 00:38:19.800
goal is to win every. tournament that they're

00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.059
in uh win every trophy that they could possibly

00:38:22.059 --> 00:38:25.739
find but uh maybe that gives them a chance to

00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:27.619
experiment a little bit with the formation uh

00:38:27.619 --> 00:38:29.320
like we saw with the three backs to kick the

00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.139
season off uh and tweaks and stuff around maybe

00:38:32.139 --> 00:38:35.099
de la vega will get a play i i kind of i would

00:38:35.099 --> 00:38:38.440
like to see him on the field again yeah for sure

00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.159
cedar what about you what what are you thinking

00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.360
about as we head into a month away or yeah 20

00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:50.369
days away but into the leagues cup Yeah, three

00:38:50.369 --> 00:38:54.989
weeks away. It's coming up. Just to echo what

00:38:54.989 --> 00:38:58.070
Dan said, it'll be nice to get a rematch against

00:38:58.070 --> 00:39:03.570
Cruz Azul. Maybe we can get some revenge on those

00:39:03.570 --> 00:39:08.570
guys. And yeah, I don't know too much about Santos

00:39:08.570 --> 00:39:11.630
Laguna or Club Tijuana, but I do know that Liga

00:39:11.630 --> 00:39:14.409
Mequis is a really, really strong league. And

00:39:14.409 --> 00:39:18.380
anytime that you can beat... mexican competition

00:39:18.380 --> 00:39:21.440
that means you're you're doing pretty well um

00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.860
and we'll obviously have home field advantage

00:39:23.860 --> 00:39:27.599
for uh our three group stage matches so that'll

00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.079
help that's important yeah we are the away team

00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:36.300
against cruz azul but it is at home yeah yes

00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:38.739
uh do we still get the general emission ecs uh

00:39:38.739 --> 00:39:43.900
yeah we should okay does that mean they're gonna

00:39:43.900 --> 00:39:47.420
play if if cruz azul scores Are they going to

00:39:47.420 --> 00:39:50.000
play Cruz Azul's goal song in our stadium? I

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.679
don't know about that. I imagine it will be the

00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.780
same otherwise. They get to decide. I don't know.

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.519
They get home jerseys. Well, one way to keep

00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.860
them from doing that would be to not let them

00:40:00.860 --> 00:40:04.519
score. And maybe not have our goals robbed by

00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.900
the referees on a fake call off sides that was

00:40:07.900 --> 00:40:11.860
really on sides. Oh, I had forgotten about that.

00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:17.320
De La Vega scored. Yeah. What are you guys talking

00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:23.800
about? I love it. Alex, what about you? You know,

00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:27.219
I think Santos Laguna, Tijuana, not good, but

00:40:27.219 --> 00:40:30.760
Cruz Azul, very, very, very, very good. They

00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.679
were the CONCACAF champions, correct? Yeah, you

00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.280
just read my mind. I'm looking at the table from

00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.480
last season, and you got Santos in last place

00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:44.760
with seven points, and then you have Tijuana.

00:40:45.659 --> 00:40:47.920
with 19 points in 13th. They didn't even make

00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.719
the playoffs. But then you have Cruz Azul that

00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.280
beat the Brakes off the Whitecaps. And then we

00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.500
lost to the Whitecaps C -Squad. So, I mean, as

00:40:57.500 --> 00:41:00.699
long as we don't lose 5 -0. That was pre -Club

00:41:00.699 --> 00:41:04.340
World Cup. We erase all those memories. That's

00:41:04.340 --> 00:41:07.480
a different Sounders team. We clearly, they went

00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.000
out. The Sounders got a star number nine to score

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.619
goals. Uh -oh. Oh, wait. Are you talking about

00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:16.679
the ghost of Noah, Ohio? Yeah. Where's that guy?

00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:21.780
Why isn't he here yet? His visa didn't go through.

00:41:22.059 --> 00:41:27.980
It got denied. Man. Why? I know why. Never mind.

00:41:29.820 --> 00:41:34.780
I think we didn't pay the tariff. Yeah. Weird.

00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:39.400
Kent's just fine. He was here super fast. He's

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.519
British. That's why. You're thinking about the

00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:47.860
Boston Tea Party. Yeah. Ohio, the British too,

00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:49.659
right? Wasn't he born in Britain? Plays for the

00:41:49.659 --> 00:41:53.300
Dutch team? But also, we could have just said

00:41:53.300 --> 00:41:56.119
he was from Ohio. He's Noah from Ohio. What are

00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:02.719
we doing? Yeah. We're going to chant, Ohio. No,

00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.420
I think we're going to bring it back to Leek's

00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:10.599
Cup. Yeah. We went on a little bit of a banter.

00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.880
But I want to win League's Cup. I mean, I don't

00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:19.760
know if when you guys have been in ECS, you guys

00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.539
hear us chant, like, there's nothing we haven't

00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:24.400
won. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, we haven't

00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.940
won League's Cup. I mean. It's the final in one

00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:32.179
of the early editions, but did not win. We haven't

00:42:32.179 --> 00:42:34.000
won. We can't say that we haven't won everything

00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.340
when we, you know, we haven't. Like, it's a bit

00:42:37.340 --> 00:42:41.059
of a. contradicting song. I'm like, so let's

00:42:41.059 --> 00:42:42.940
win League Cup so then when we actually sing

00:42:42.940 --> 00:42:47.980
it, we can back it up with the stats. But I think

00:42:47.980 --> 00:42:50.800
the way that they're doing it this year is that

00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.500
the top four teams, I think it's top four, of

00:42:54.500 --> 00:42:59.059
MLS and League MX go through. So essentially,

00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.300
we can tie all our games and still make it through.

00:43:03.299 --> 00:43:06.179
That's true. Although I would expect us to get

00:43:06.179 --> 00:43:08.840
at least two wins. I think anything less than

00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.619
two wins in the group stage, to me, is a failure.

00:43:12.460 --> 00:43:15.920
I think we should aim for seven points. Agreed.

00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:20.139
We could get a tie against Cruz Azul and then

00:43:20.139 --> 00:43:25.380
get the wins against Tijuana and Santos. But

00:43:25.380 --> 00:43:27.179
who knows? Maybe we get nine points and I'll

00:43:27.179 --> 00:43:31.780
eat my words. I'd love to see it. Is there value?

00:43:32.650 --> 00:43:34.889
What do you see, because I know there is value,

00:43:34.989 --> 00:43:37.469
what do you all see as the value of playing Liga

00:43:37.469 --> 00:43:47.349
MX teams? You kind of see how the leagues are

00:43:47.349 --> 00:43:50.849
in comparison. Because you have the MLS with

00:43:50.849 --> 00:43:54.130
the salary cap, and then you have Liga MX that

00:43:54.130 --> 00:43:57.630
doesn't have a salary cap. So the top teams,

00:43:57.809 --> 00:44:01.369
their whole squad is valued more than our players.

00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.199
And like we've seen when we went against Cruz

00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.199
Azul, they have multiple players that could be

00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.340
DPs that would walk into most MLS teams and be

00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:18.900
a starting player. But we've seen... The only

00:44:18.900 --> 00:44:22.400
thing that is kind of an issue with a lot of

00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.239
people is that the games are always played in

00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.280
the U .S. There's no games played in Mexico.

00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.519
So it's obviously going to be easier for MLS

00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.059
sites, even if it's at a neutral site. It's also

00:44:33.059 --> 00:44:37.139
a mid -season for us versus pre -season for them.

00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.280
But how is that different than, I mean, how is

00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.539
that not the same as what we deal with in the

00:44:44.539 --> 00:44:47.179
Champions League, which is arguably a better

00:44:47.179 --> 00:44:51.739
tournament? I was about to touch on that and,

00:44:51.739 --> 00:44:57.840
you know, like great minds think alike. Yeah.

00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.360
Dan, what about you? Do you think there's value

00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.780
in having this tournament interrupt the season?

00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.280
Yeah, I enjoyed the tournament. So, again, I

00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.179
think this is because I'm a little bit of a newer

00:45:10.179 --> 00:45:13.019
fan to the Sounders only the past couple of years.

00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.940
I don't have the same nostalgia for the Open

00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:18.260
Cup. Now, I enjoy the Open Cup, don't get me

00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:20.059
wrong, and then watching some of these lower

00:45:20.059 --> 00:45:24.360
leagues come in. go toe to toe with MLS competition

00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:26.579
is extremely fun and everybody loves a good cup

00:45:26.579 --> 00:45:30.860
set as long as it's not in Seattle. But, uh,

00:45:31.460 --> 00:45:35.860
so I, but I enjoy La Liga, uh, the, uh, I'm sorry.

00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:39.980
I enjoy least cup a lot and, I want to win it

00:45:39.980 --> 00:45:41.940
too. I think it would be a fun thing to do. And

00:45:41.940 --> 00:45:44.159
I think that this year there's, there's a chance,

00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.659
especially with Jordan coming back and give him

00:45:46.659 --> 00:45:48.840
a run out there and let him go cook and not pull

00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.340
anything else. And we should be good. Yeah, I

00:45:51.340 --> 00:45:54.780
mean, I think I don't like that around the league.

00:45:54.860 --> 00:45:56.840
And this is something that I wrote the statement

00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.039
that Independent Supporters Council put out about

00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.280
it, the US Open Cup, and very much most of the

00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:05.320
groups were focused on it versus League's Cup.

00:46:05.579 --> 00:46:09.139
And for me, it shouldn't be an either or. You

00:46:09.139 --> 00:46:10.920
can have both tournaments. Look what they do

00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:12.539
in Europe, especially now when they've added,

00:46:12.739 --> 00:46:15.840
you know, Chelsea and PSG end up with what, 60

00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.340
games or something like that by the end of the

00:46:18.340 --> 00:46:25.150
season. You can do both, but I will say being

00:46:25.150 --> 00:46:29.750
at Starfire in some of those amazing matches,

00:46:30.130 --> 00:46:33.429
just the atmosphere there is incredible. U .S.

00:46:33.449 --> 00:46:35.170
Open Cup is some of my favorite matches that

00:46:35.170 --> 00:46:37.610
I've ever been to. So I don't like to pit them

00:46:37.610 --> 00:46:40.750
against each other, but I think I agree with

00:46:40.750 --> 00:46:42.909
you that it's an important tournament, especially

00:46:42.909 --> 00:46:46.469
for a league that wants to be equal to our rivals

00:46:46.469 --> 00:46:51.539
to the south. What about you, Cedar? Yeah, I

00:46:51.539 --> 00:46:55.199
think it has tremendous value. I think getting

00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.019
a, you know, there being a spot in Champions

00:46:59.019 --> 00:47:01.739
Cup on the line, that's definitely something

00:47:01.739 --> 00:47:04.980
we want to get. Because I think after seeing

00:47:04.980 --> 00:47:08.579
this first iteration of the expanded Club World

00:47:08.579 --> 00:47:13.519
Cup, I think we want to go back, you know. So,

00:47:13.619 --> 00:47:17.900
yeah, I think it has tremendous value. I think

00:47:17.900 --> 00:47:23.449
that... It's nice to play teams that, yeah, Liga

00:47:23.449 --> 00:47:26.130
Mekis doesn't have a salary cap, but it still

00:47:26.130 --> 00:47:29.909
is a similar ecosystem in terms of world football

00:47:29.909 --> 00:47:33.550
to where the MLS is at. And so it's nice to have

00:47:33.550 --> 00:47:37.570
that kind of measuring stick where, you know,

00:47:37.570 --> 00:47:41.329
we've alluded to it with Open Cup, you know,

00:47:41.329 --> 00:47:43.510
playing lower level teams. Yes, there are cup

00:47:43.510 --> 00:47:46.070
sets, but it's still different. It's very different

00:47:46.070 --> 00:47:48.389
with the squads you roll out. I feel like with

00:47:48.389 --> 00:47:50.889
leagues cup, a lot of teams are, they're going

00:47:50.889 --> 00:47:53.130
to be rolling out their eight teams. Um, and

00:47:53.130 --> 00:47:56.769
so will the Mexican team. So, um, yeah, it's

00:47:56.769 --> 00:47:59.630
fun. It's, it's a good tournament and it's good.

00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:02.110
It's good competition. So I'm, I'm looking forward

00:48:02.110 --> 00:48:05.849
to it. Um, but that's not to take anything away

00:48:05.849 --> 00:48:09.269
from, you know, the magic of us open cup and

00:48:09.269 --> 00:48:12.449
wanting to see that be, you know, something that's

00:48:12.449 --> 00:48:16.219
a mainstay in American soccer too. Like you were

00:48:16.219 --> 00:48:17.860
saying, Cameron, I don't see why there's any

00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:22.619
reason where we can't have both. The way you

00:48:22.619 --> 00:48:25.980
do it, expand the rosters. We need five more

00:48:25.980 --> 00:48:30.000
TAM players. Give us five more TAM players. Expand

00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.940
those rosters so we have more mid to top level

00:48:34.940 --> 00:48:37.320
players. And then suddenly you have space to

00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.079
play youth players. And also let the youth players

00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.150
come up for the... for the that's they could

00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:44.789
have fixed all of this if they had just said

00:48:44.789 --> 00:48:47.909
hey your minor league players can come play for

00:48:47.909 --> 00:48:50.349
your professional team then it never would have

00:48:50.349 --> 00:48:52.050
been an issue there would have been zero protests

00:48:52.050 --> 00:48:56.110
and they just in in typical mls us soccer fashion

00:48:56.110 --> 00:49:03.150
they all bungled this yeah yeah so well well

00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:05.849
and we just saw too in the club world cup like

00:49:05.849 --> 00:49:09.940
you know The gap between us and the big European

00:49:09.940 --> 00:49:13.920
teams, while it is there for sure, it's not immense.

00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:18.039
It's not something that can't be worked towards

00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:24.440
in the immediate future. The league could make

00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:28.099
strides if it wants to in terms of loosening

00:49:28.099 --> 00:49:30.219
up the salary cap and all of the restrictions

00:49:30.219 --> 00:49:35.860
and having MLS teams be able to put really good...

00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:41.010
squads out on the field. So I, yeah. I do feel

00:49:41.010 --> 00:49:44.469
like, and, and I know not everyone loves messy,

00:49:44.570 --> 00:49:47.769
but I feel like messy has raised the profile

00:49:47.769 --> 00:49:50.150
of the game in the United States in a way that

00:49:50.150 --> 00:49:54.170
from a sociological perspective has made it more

00:49:54.170 --> 00:49:57.010
relevant outside of the United States. And perhaps

00:49:57.010 --> 00:50:00.150
because of that, they're going to, I don't know

00:50:00.150 --> 00:50:02.489
if this. helps the sounders frankly might hurt

00:50:02.489 --> 00:50:06.489
us but they may add another dp they may make

00:50:06.489 --> 00:50:09.050
it so that you can bring in higher paid players

00:50:09.050 --> 00:50:11.650
and and the salary crap isn't so restrictive

00:50:11.650 --> 00:50:18.730
i mean i think five years ago did you think that

00:50:18.730 --> 00:50:23.110
messi suarez busquez and georgia would be playing

00:50:23.110 --> 00:50:26.110
in the mls not together on the same not let alone

00:50:26.110 --> 00:50:28.239
on the same team I could see all of them playing

00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.880
separately on one team for each of them. No,

00:50:31.900 --> 00:50:35.960
wait. I think he was already gone by then. That

00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:37.599
might have been the year that he left Barcelona.

00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.679
But I didn't see Messi leaving Barcelona. The

00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.719
only reason why he left was the financial situation.

00:50:45.500 --> 00:50:50.280
And then he went to PSG. How do you feel about

00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.400
that? I loved it. I had my PSG Messi jersey on

00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.300
when they played against Seattle. There you go.

00:50:58.059 --> 00:51:00.119
What's funny was that Mbappe was the problem.

00:51:00.900 --> 00:51:03.880
Yeah, it seems like it. It seems like it. Now,

00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:07.099
were you standing there with me, Alex, when some

00:51:07.099 --> 00:51:09.739
kid came up and gave me a yellow card for wearing

00:51:09.739 --> 00:51:13.960
a Messi jersey? Oh, yeah. I think so. Was that

00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.059
when we were standing outside? Yeah. He's like,

00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:22.599
Messi yellow card. I like this kid. I was like,

00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.300
you little shit. Here we go. I'm excited. I'm

00:51:27.300 --> 00:51:29.179
excited for more Sounders fans like that growing

00:51:29.179 --> 00:51:31.639
up. The only violence at the Global World Cup

00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:37.300
was me beating up a 10 -year -old. No crowd violence,

00:51:37.380 --> 00:51:41.780
just me being like, ah! And then you just see

00:51:41.780 --> 00:51:45.840
me get in, I got the last kick! Boom! The finisher,

00:51:46.059 --> 00:51:51.800
the people's elbow. Oh, man. I have a question

00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:55.780
for you guys. Let's say, let's say, let's say

00:51:55.780 --> 00:51:58.320
money is relatively no object let's say we can

00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:02.219
sign you know a really big name player who would

00:52:02.219 --> 00:52:06.119
each of your guys like dream current footballer

00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:09.440
be to play for this is it realistic or like uh

00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.320
we're saying we could semi -realistic like let's

00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.739
say i mean you're not getting messy went to miami

00:52:15.739 --> 00:52:18.739
right you know no no you're not getting anybody

00:52:18.739 --> 00:52:20.960
like in their prime you're not traveling back

00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.920
in time but like right now like if if we had

00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.920
you know, some significant money to spend and

00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.360
everything worked out, who would your dream player

00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:34.940
be to come to the Sounders? Anybody? Mo Salah.

00:52:35.019 --> 00:52:38.199
Yeah. Then we don't have to argue about a right

00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:39.940
winger and we'd have three wingers that can score.

00:52:40.460 --> 00:52:43.420
Same here. That's a great choice. That's funny

00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:45.139
because you're calling for a nine and you get

00:52:45.139 --> 00:52:49.280
a winger. To see him in rave green. So, I'm not,

00:52:49.380 --> 00:52:52.960
I am happy with a nine or a winger that can score.

00:52:53.739 --> 00:52:56.460
In fact, I think a winger that could score may

00:52:56.460 --> 00:52:59.340
be the fix to keep Jordan happy. I mean, we're

00:52:59.340 --> 00:53:01.480
getting off your question, Cedar. I apologize.

00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:04.679
But, yeah, I think we need an attacking player

00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:09.139
that's an inverted winger. That's really what

00:53:09.139 --> 00:53:11.659
I think that we need to unlock and be able to

00:53:11.659 --> 00:53:14.400
get a couple more goals. I mean, he's 33. He's

00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:18.699
worth 50 million euros. He's going to Saudi before

00:53:18.699 --> 00:53:22.719
he comes to Seattle. Oh, sure. I don't know if

00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.440
he's going to Saudi. I don't know. Yeah. I, you

00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.340
know, maybe Apple will pay as an Egyptian. Does

00:53:28.340 --> 00:53:30.440
he want to go play in Saudi Arabia? Yeah. He,

00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.739
he, he, he knows, he knows the way that area

00:53:35.739 --> 00:53:37.860
of the world works way better than the rest of

00:53:37.860 --> 00:53:40.719
us. And I just, I don't know, man, I feel like

00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:42.480
I look at it as like, wouldn't you want to like

00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.940
raise your family in a, in a beautiful city like

00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:47.599
Seattle, you know, with our world -class state

00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:49.619
-of -the -art training facilities, you know?

00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:54.199
Yeah. Come on down. With the new curtains and

00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:58.940
the gold -plated toilets? Yeah. Don't show him

00:53:58.940 --> 00:54:01.440
De La Vegas haircut. Oh, Jesus. I was unhappy.

00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.599
I liked his floppy surfer hair. Everybody did.

00:54:05.619 --> 00:54:07.739
At least he looked good on the film. Brian and

00:54:07.739 --> 00:54:09.500
Craig are mad because he has more hair than the

00:54:09.500 --> 00:54:15.280
both of them combined. So I gave you my real

00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.199
answer. Can I give you my heart, my passion answer?

00:54:19.429 --> 00:54:20.949
Because everybody's going to hate this. Don't

00:54:20.949 --> 00:54:23.190
say Darwin Nunez. It would be terrible. Darwin

00:54:23.190 --> 00:54:27.150
Nunez. I am in love with the man. I think he

00:54:27.150 --> 00:54:32.110
would tear the MLS up. Destroy it. He would need

00:54:32.110 --> 00:54:35.809
like five chances to score one. Not in MLS. So

00:54:35.809 --> 00:54:38.090
he would fit right in with the Sounders. I mean

00:54:38.090 --> 00:54:40.510
that. That's what we did. That's true. They're

00:54:40.510 --> 00:54:43.929
probably scouting him right now. Wasn't he on

00:54:43.929 --> 00:54:47.590
the outs of Liverpool? Yeah, he's moving. I think

00:54:47.590 --> 00:54:52.869
he's moving to Milan. I mean, he's still under

00:54:52.869 --> 00:54:55.590
contract at present. His value has dropped to

00:54:55.590 --> 00:54:58.150
$45 million, so he's $5 million cheaper than

00:54:58.150 --> 00:55:02.349
Mo Salah. So he's a discount. Yeah. What a deal.

00:55:02.750 --> 00:55:07.829
Why don't we hijack LAFC's target and get a human

00:55:07.829 --> 00:55:11.710
song? Yeah. That would be a good choice. I think

00:55:11.710 --> 00:55:14.429
his contract's expiring. He can play on the wing

00:55:14.429 --> 00:55:19.849
and up top. Yeah. Might be a realistic option.

00:55:20.250 --> 00:55:22.989
Yeah, mine is, again, the player that just left

00:55:22.989 --> 00:55:30.309
Botafogo, Igor Jesus, who scored against us in

00:55:30.309 --> 00:55:32.909
that first match. And then immediately, I mean,

00:55:32.929 --> 00:55:33.989
it was already in the works, but immediately

00:55:33.989 --> 00:55:37.210
he was sold to Nottingham Forest. I don't know.

00:55:37.250 --> 00:55:40.630
Did we lose Cameron? I'm really nervous without

00:55:40.630 --> 00:55:47.269
our leader right now. So before my internet rudely

00:55:47.269 --> 00:55:49.929
interrupted us, we were talking about who we

00:55:49.929 --> 00:55:54.510
wanted. So we got Mo Salah. We got Darwin Nunez.

00:55:54.510 --> 00:56:00.289
Of course, I want Igor Jesus. Alex, who was your

00:56:00.289 --> 00:56:04.829
player? I gave my realistic option a son. That's

00:56:04.829 --> 00:56:08.210
right. That's right. My dream signing. If we

00:56:08.210 --> 00:56:14.099
could sign anyone right now, realistically. Go

00:56:14.099 --> 00:56:17.699
get Raul Jimenez. Why not? He killed it in Gold

00:56:17.699 --> 00:56:23.519
Cup. Yeah, I guess he did. He's in the Premier

00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:25.980
League, but he's not at a top club. No offense

00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:31.579
to my Fulham supporters. Yeah, he is 34, though,

00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.480
so it's not very common for the Sounders to bring

00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:38.199
in a player of that age that isn't a superstar.

00:56:38.340 --> 00:56:40.239
I mean, I would go get Juliano Alvarez, but I

00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:42.639
think he's just in his prime. or going to hit

00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.599
his prime, which is unrealistic. But that's who

00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:50.980
I'll sign. Yeah, the value for Jimenez, according

00:56:50.980 --> 00:56:56.099
to TransferMarket, is 5 million euros. That's

00:56:56.099 --> 00:57:01.159
too expensive for us. We got to go shop at the

00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:05.780
dollar store. The dollar stretcher. You're starting

00:57:05.780 --> 00:57:07.760
to sound like Tim Hamilton, muffin top model

00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.920
in here. Until I see them spend on someone else

00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.539
other than Pedro, then I'll be like, you know

00:57:16.539 --> 00:57:18.980
what? Trust the process. Right now, I feel like

00:57:18.980 --> 00:57:22.300
a Philly fan. Trust the process. Philly's got

00:57:22.300 --> 00:57:27.420
a championship. Not the 76ers. Yeah, that's true.

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:34.219
I do feel like if Areola doesn't get hurt, this

00:57:34.219 --> 00:57:36.630
season plays out very different. Seeing what

00:57:36.630 --> 00:57:38.829
we saw from him early on, I think we are scoring

00:57:38.829 --> 00:57:41.869
a lot of goals if he's out there with the service

00:57:41.869 --> 00:57:43.550
he was giving. Oh, for sure. He was killing it.

00:57:44.849 --> 00:57:47.630
Yeah. Him and Jesus were playing lights out.

00:57:48.050 --> 00:57:49.369
That's because they've been playing together

00:57:49.369 --> 00:57:55.050
for years. Here's the one thing I will say. I

00:57:55.050 --> 00:58:00.070
think that we are misusing Pedro. He's known

00:58:00.070 --> 00:58:03.070
for playing on the left wing and cutting in onto

00:58:03.070 --> 00:58:07.699
his right foot and taking shots. he's not as

00:58:07.699 --> 00:58:11.619
comfortable taking shots with his left foot.

00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.300
And I think that if we put him on the left, he

00:58:15.300 --> 00:58:18.239
would be much more productive than on the right.

00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.500
Which goal was called? I think there was a goal

00:58:21.500 --> 00:58:23.139
again in the League's Cup last year that was

00:58:23.139 --> 00:58:25.579
called back where he cut inside and he hit it

00:58:25.579 --> 00:58:27.900
from like outside the box and just curled right

00:58:27.900 --> 00:58:32.300
in to the far post. Oh, and that was a BS offsides

00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:35.280
too. Yeah. When have we seen any other player

00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:39.280
hit a shot like that in our current roster? I

00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:42.619
want to see him on the left and Kent on the right.

00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:47.320
I do. I think that would be fantastic. Mariners

00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:49.659
are now tied 5 -5 in the 10th inning. Classic.

00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.119
Wait, is this the same game that was a no -hitter

00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:55.699
until the 8th? Yes. Who's pitching now? Is it

00:58:55.699 --> 00:58:58.820
still Brian Wool? No, they took him out after

00:58:58.820 --> 00:59:04.599
he gave up two hits and then a sacrifice. So,

00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:08.480
yeah, go Mariners. They're setting a big dumper

00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:12.000
to hit the Grand Slam game winner. They brought

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.940
in Andre Munoz to get the – they pitched him

00:59:14.940 --> 00:59:16.699
more than – oh, yeah, he pitched him the full

00:59:16.699 --> 00:59:19.440
ninth and gave up two earned runs. So he blew

00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:23.440
the save. I'm fine with that. He, like, never

00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:26.480
does that. So it's going to happen at some point,

00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:28.860
right? But maybe not after the Mariners have

00:59:28.860 --> 00:59:32.019
lost two in a row. Here's the thing. I want the

00:59:32.019 --> 00:59:35.800
Sounders to be a winning team. I don't want them

00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:38.179
to be the Mariners. I don't want them to go,

00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.980
okay, we just have to win 55 % of our games to

00:59:40.980 --> 00:59:42.739
make the playoffs, and at that point we can make

00:59:42.739 --> 00:59:45.159
a World Series run. I want the Sounders to be

00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:47.360
striving to get the top two positions in the

00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.420
MLS every season so we have a realistic chance

00:59:49.420 --> 00:59:54.199
of winning the MLS Cup. And I'm worried that

00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:57.159
because of things we've heard from the front

00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:01.809
office that they don't believe. spending is necessary

01:00:01.809 --> 01:00:04.269
to win that's why when people root against miami

01:00:04.269 --> 01:00:07.750
which i usually uh recently have been doing rooting

01:00:07.750 --> 01:00:09.829
against them but in general i've been rooting

01:00:09.829 --> 01:00:12.349
for them because if we start having halves and

01:00:12.349 --> 01:00:14.650
have knots and we're on the have knots that's

01:00:14.650 --> 01:00:16.650
the only way our front office is going to spend

01:00:16.650 --> 01:00:21.369
money we keep making it to the western conference

01:00:21.369 --> 01:00:26.570
final with a bunch of retreads that's what they're

01:00:26.570 --> 01:00:29.010
going to get but i think what plays a part of

01:00:29.010 --> 01:00:32.320
that too is that I think a lot of the fan base

01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.800
was calling last season a success for making

01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:40.800
it to the Western Conference Finals. Yeah, but

01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:43.760
why? Why was it a success for making it to the

01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:45.380
Western Conference Finals? Because we were so

01:00:45.380 --> 01:00:47.679
mediocre most of the season, and so we just got

01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:49.539
hot in the playoffs. It's like they learned nothing

01:00:49.539 --> 01:00:52.260
from that, is what I think. I think it masked

01:00:52.260 --> 01:00:55.179
our real problems. What do you all think? I think

01:00:55.179 --> 01:00:59.530
that we need to... Go ahead. I was going to say

01:00:59.530 --> 01:01:04.550
that I was watching the – what did they just

01:01:04.550 --> 01:01:06.809
post? What did the Sounders leadership team post

01:01:06.809 --> 01:01:09.829
on the website? The Alliance Club meeting. And

01:01:09.829 --> 01:01:13.369
one of – I think it may have been Adrian said

01:01:13.369 --> 01:01:15.329
that we were 10 minutes – we look at it that

01:01:15.329 --> 01:01:17.869
we were 10 minutes away to go into the cup, to

01:01:17.869 --> 01:01:21.210
the final. And that's great. You're right. We

01:01:21.210 --> 01:01:24.030
were 10 minutes away kind of. We were 10 minutes

01:01:24.030 --> 01:01:29.210
away to go into extra time. But we lost that

01:01:29.210 --> 01:01:33.329
game because we couldn't score against LA Galaxy,

01:01:33.469 --> 01:01:36.750
a team that gave up 50 goals last year before

01:01:36.750 --> 01:01:39.909
the playoffs. Right. And so we had one of the

01:01:39.909 --> 01:01:43.789
let's see, they were like third in the West for

01:01:43.789 --> 01:01:46.289
giving up goals. So not not a great defense.

01:01:46.349 --> 01:01:49.090
And we still just could not score against them.

01:01:49.730 --> 01:01:52.610
And so instead of looking at that and saying,

01:01:52.670 --> 01:01:55.800
hey. Why were we 10 minutes away from going?

01:01:55.940 --> 01:01:58.639
Was it luck, or did the ball bounce a certain

01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.639
way, or could we just not put our ball into the

01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:02.980
net? And they didn't do that. They came away

01:02:02.980 --> 01:02:05.219
with that we're so close, let's give it another

01:02:05.219 --> 01:02:12.639
shot. Yeah. That seems accurate. That only took

01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:15.280
them, what, that one chance that they got? I

01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.300
think that might have been Rajon's first shot,

01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:21.690
too, at the game when he scored. I don't even

01:02:21.690 --> 01:02:25.909
remember that game. I tried to forget it. Well,

01:02:25.949 --> 01:02:29.929
at what point do we consider Pedro de la Vega

01:02:29.929 --> 01:02:34.889
to be, you know, a failure, basically? I mean,

01:02:34.909 --> 01:02:39.289
is it coming up to kind of like the cusp where

01:02:39.289 --> 01:02:43.349
it's like, well, you know, it's been one and

01:02:43.349 --> 01:02:46.710
a half seasons and we haven't really seen him,

01:02:46.849 --> 01:02:51.570
you know, come good on. how much we spent on

01:02:51.570 --> 01:02:54.250
him and everything and it's just been spotty

01:02:54.250 --> 01:02:57.349
and yes there have been uh you know he's had

01:02:57.349 --> 01:03:00.650
his injury issues and all that but you know at

01:03:00.650 --> 01:03:03.329
what point like is it after the end of the season

01:03:03.329 --> 01:03:06.170
if he still hasn't you know come on like are

01:03:06.170 --> 01:03:09.750
we like okay well that was just a massive failure

01:03:09.750 --> 01:03:14.510
too right that did not go as planned i don't

01:03:14.510 --> 01:03:16.829
think it matters without the fans see pedro's

01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:19.340
failure. I think it matters whenever the coaches

01:03:19.340 --> 01:03:22.139
see Pedro as a failure and that they're choosing

01:03:22.139 --> 01:03:25.699
to sit him on the bench and bring him in after

01:03:25.699 --> 01:03:28.960
the 80th minute. To me, that shows me where their

01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.699
heads are with where he fits into the club. At

01:03:31.699 --> 01:03:35.300
least where Brian's head is. Right. Now, if Craig

01:03:35.300 --> 01:03:38.400
just wants to keep him and not play him. I don't

01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:43.019
know the relationship between the two and how

01:03:43.019 --> 01:03:45.010
much they work together. I know what they say.

01:03:45.130 --> 01:03:48.010
I did know the relationship between Garth and

01:03:48.010 --> 01:03:51.110
Brian. And Brian played favorites and would not

01:03:51.110 --> 01:03:57.230
play players under the plan that Garth had laid

01:03:57.230 --> 01:03:59.730
out for us to win, including playing older players

01:03:59.730 --> 01:04:02.230
midweek who had knee issues because he was concerned

01:04:02.230 --> 01:04:05.989
more about winning a midweek MLS game than having

01:04:05.989 --> 01:04:08.210
a player for full season. Which, if you're afraid

01:04:08.210 --> 01:04:10.070
of losing your job, sure, I get it. But still,

01:04:10.210 --> 01:04:14.409
I don't know that. But at the very least, we

01:04:14.409 --> 01:04:18.489
know we can say that the coaching staff is not

01:04:18.489 --> 01:04:24.070
happy with Pedro. I just feel like, sure, Rothrock

01:04:24.070 --> 01:04:26.130
has earned it on the left, but we've seen nothing

01:04:26.130 --> 01:04:29.670
on the right that prevents Ryan Kent from being

01:04:29.670 --> 01:04:34.289
out there. And yet he's not. We had other players

01:04:34.289 --> 01:04:37.190
that have come into the team and have never been

01:04:37.190 --> 01:04:38.849
able to succeed because they're not getting minutes

01:04:38.849 --> 01:04:40.989
on the field. We don't know what's going on behind

01:04:40.989 --> 01:04:44.090
the scenes, but... We did see Pedro succeed at

01:04:44.090 --> 01:04:47.070
the beginning of the season. I mean, at the beginning,

01:04:47.170 --> 01:04:52.789
he was dominant. In an early Champions Cup, he

01:04:52.789 --> 01:04:57.110
was great. So it's not like he's a worse player.

01:04:57.389 --> 01:05:01.929
Is he hurt? Is he not training? Has he pissed

01:05:01.929 --> 01:05:04.550
off the wrong people? The other thing is we know

01:05:04.550 --> 01:05:07.269
that players can get back. Look at Nuhu. Nuhu's

01:05:07.269 --> 01:05:09.010
been in the doghouse several times in his career

01:05:09.010 --> 01:05:12.769
and yet always finds a way. back into being a

01:05:12.769 --> 01:05:17.449
starter. So I, that's, I don't know. I don't

01:05:17.449 --> 01:05:21.349
know where, if you're the, if you're the GM,

01:05:21.510 --> 01:05:24.030
how do you, how do you determine it? If your

01:05:24.030 --> 01:05:26.670
coach isn't giving minutes, what's the reason?

01:05:26.789 --> 01:05:29.710
And I think that's what determines it. I think,

01:05:29.769 --> 01:05:34.630
well, I think, I think Craig seems the type that

01:05:34.630 --> 01:05:38.309
he's out at practice a lot of the times. So I'm

01:05:38.309 --> 01:05:41.300
sure he sees what's going on. Again, I think

01:05:41.300 --> 01:05:45.159
that we're not using Pedro the way that will

01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.480
benefit him the most. To be the most productive.

01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:53.920
Because I heard that Brian likes to use a right

01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.179
footed winger on the right side and a left footed

01:05:56.179 --> 01:05:58.960
winger on the left side. And that's going to

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.280
help them put in better crosses. But that's going

01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.500
to eliminate the effect of them cutting inside.

01:06:04.780 --> 01:06:09.079
And Pedro is very dynamic. He can cut in. Do

01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:10.500
a quick combination play and then, you know,

01:06:10.579 --> 01:06:14.519
like he'll slip through. But again, I think the

01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:16.420
way that the team set up is that we're slow,

01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:19.980
methodical. We're going to kill you, pass the

01:06:19.980 --> 01:06:23.780
ball, like put you to sleep. And then eventually

01:06:23.780 --> 01:06:25.239
someone's going to be like, you know what, like

01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:30.420
we're going to go quickly. And it's just about

01:06:30.420 --> 01:06:32.360
the players knowing when it's the right time

01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:36.579
to go quickly. And if the coach is giving them

01:06:36.579 --> 01:06:40.829
the freedom to play. Quickly. Because we see

01:06:40.829 --> 01:06:43.769
the effort that Pedro plays on defense. He'll

01:06:43.769 --> 01:06:51.389
run back and defend. Pedro looks like he's putting

01:06:51.389 --> 01:06:53.989
in the work. But there's something missing that

01:06:53.989 --> 01:07:01.949
he's not able to start games. What is the reason

01:07:01.949 --> 01:07:03.750
that he's not starting? Is it because Brian's

01:07:03.750 --> 01:07:07.480
playing favorites? Who knows? Maybe. But that's

01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:08.960
something that we don't know, but we can just

01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:13.739
speculate on. I mean, I imagine Ferreira is amazing

01:07:13.739 --> 01:07:15.599
in practice at the very least because otherwise

01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:17.320
he wouldn't be getting as many chances as he

01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:19.739
is. Yeah, but then we look at him in game and

01:07:19.739 --> 01:07:25.840
he's hitting field goals for the Seahawks. The

01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:29.239
Cowboys, if you're Dan. Yeah, yeah. We always

01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.500
have good field goal kickers. They got good cheerleaders.

01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:34.079
That's probably the best thing that they got

01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:41.179
right now. Shout out. You know, one of the things

01:07:41.179 --> 01:07:47.860
in this conversation. Go ahead, Matt. Go, Cedar.

01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:52.539
I was just going to ask you, doesn't your Cowboys,

01:07:52.699 --> 01:07:55.760
doesn't the kicker for the Cowboys, didn't he

01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:59.179
used to play soccer? Yes, yes. In the USL or

01:07:59.179 --> 01:08:02.920
something like that? Yeah. He did. I don't even

01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:05.409
remember his name anymore. This is going to be

01:08:05.409 --> 01:08:07.449
the first year ever in my life that I don't have

01:08:07.449 --> 01:08:10.250
the NFL package. So we'll see how it goes. I

01:08:10.250 --> 01:08:12.750
mean, it's probably worth it. I mean, if you're

01:08:12.750 --> 01:08:18.189
going to play this man. So, but to the Sounders,

01:08:18.210 --> 01:08:20.829
one of the things that we're kind of, that nobody's

01:08:20.829 --> 01:08:25.850
really hitting on is Brian lets Rothrock play

01:08:25.850 --> 01:08:28.529
as an inverted winger. But then all the other

01:08:28.529 --> 01:08:31.050
wingers he puts on, he's not letting them play

01:08:31.050 --> 01:08:33.729
as inverted wingers. He's letting whoever's on

01:08:33.729 --> 01:08:35.689
the right play as a wide playmaker, and then

01:08:35.689 --> 01:08:37.649
whoever he puts on the left is playing as a winger.

01:08:38.029 --> 01:08:43.010
And I think Kent – that concerns me when we are

01:08:43.010 --> 01:08:45.430
playing wide and we only let one person get in

01:08:45.430 --> 01:08:48.609
the box because we leave our 10 back a little

01:08:48.609 --> 01:08:50.229
bit and he's playing at the top of the box, and

01:08:50.229 --> 01:08:52.670
then you've got a 9 in the box by himself, wondering

01:08:52.670 --> 01:08:58.710
why we can't break down a stacked box. Yeah,

01:08:58.710 --> 01:09:05.329
that's fair. So that's a lot of negativity. And

01:09:05.329 --> 01:09:09.010
Alex, I don't know if you're talking to us, but

01:09:09.010 --> 01:09:13.050
you've cut out there. So what I want to say is,

01:09:13.149 --> 01:09:15.229
let's leave this on a positive note. What are

01:09:15.229 --> 01:09:17.529
you looking for the Sounders this weekend at

01:09:17.529 --> 01:09:23.310
SKC? Hopefully a win. Hopefully more than...

01:09:23.609 --> 01:09:26.050
Two goals because I know that Thomas can be very

01:09:26.050 --> 01:09:30.130
shaky at times with the nerves. And it's not

01:09:30.130 --> 01:09:32.829
going to be the same type of leadership that

01:09:32.829 --> 01:09:37.130
Fry will give directly to the defense. But he'll

01:09:37.130 --> 01:09:40.850
have a full week of practice to get back into

01:09:40.850 --> 01:09:45.050
it. But I think that we could concede a goal

01:09:45.050 --> 01:09:48.069
or two. Hopefully I'm wrong. And I hope I'm wrong.

01:09:48.409 --> 01:09:50.630
But I can totally see us conceding a goal in

01:09:50.630 --> 01:10:00.470
SKC. My prediction was originally 1 -0 at KC,

01:10:00.590 --> 01:10:02.369
but I was convinced to go to 1 -1 when I did

01:10:02.369 --> 01:10:04.069
my prediction. Cedar, what about you? Where are

01:10:04.069 --> 01:10:06.329
you feeling about the Sounders moving into this

01:10:06.329 --> 01:10:11.250
weekend? I'm feeling pretty good. I want to see

01:10:11.250 --> 01:10:16.229
us just really take it to KC. I think they're

01:10:16.229 --> 01:10:19.289
sitting 11th in the table, in the Western Conference

01:10:19.289 --> 01:10:24.149
table right now. And they have their expected

01:10:24.149 --> 01:10:28.029
goal difference between what they've put up and

01:10:28.029 --> 01:10:30.130
what's been put up against them. They're at negative

01:10:30.130 --> 01:10:33.449
20, which is far away the worst in the league.

01:10:33.609 --> 01:10:36.229
Now they have, but their actual goal difference

01:10:36.229 --> 01:10:40.069
is only negative five. They put up 33 goals and

01:10:40.069 --> 01:10:44.989
they've allowed 38 in. So they've gotten pretty

01:10:44.989 --> 01:10:49.270
lucky, all things considered. And they have Dejan

01:10:49.270 --> 01:10:52.479
Jovalic. who, you know, obviously was the one

01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:54.960
who put us to bed in the Western Conference final

01:10:54.960 --> 01:11:00.159
last season. So I could see them, you know, being

01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:03.739
dangerous in moments, but I think we have to,

01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:05.800
a team like this, even though it's on the road,

01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:07.739
we've got to shut them down. They don't have

01:11:07.739 --> 01:11:09.720
Peter Vermees anymore. They've got an interim

01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:13.880
manager. Like, we just need to, you know, just

01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:19.840
shut them down and get three points. What about

01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:23.199
you, Dan? I think that we come out with the same

01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.840
energy that we had in the Club World Cup and

01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.640
against Austin and for a lot of parts against

01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:32.600
Columbus Crew, and we take it to SKC, and we

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:37.899
win 3 -1. Wow, that's being positive. And I think

01:11:37.899 --> 01:11:39.779
that we stop talking about their scoring issues

01:11:39.779 --> 01:11:44.239
until we play who's after that, Colorado? Yeah,

01:11:44.260 --> 01:11:47.319
I mean, it's at home on a Wednesday night. Throwback

01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:52.000
week. I think we are looking good. Everybody's

01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.819
happy. And then we, you know, we, we go back

01:11:54.819 --> 01:11:56.600
to a little bit of a difficulty scoring against

01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:58.220
Colorado, but I think this game, we're going

01:11:58.220 --> 01:12:00.159
to have some, I think we're gonna have some energy

01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.359
and I think it's going to be a lot of fun. So

01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:07.199
that's the thing. We've seen how the Sounders

01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:09.800
can play. If they can replicate how they were

01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:11.819
during the club world cup, they can run this

01:12:11.819 --> 01:12:18.239
league. Yeah. I mean, they went toe -to -toe

01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:23.060
with the best team in the world. They didn't

01:12:23.060 --> 01:12:27.239
concede four. Only two goals. Nope. True, true.

01:12:29.500 --> 01:12:32.319
So maybe the last question before we get out

01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:35.340
of here then. What shell's over -under for Jordan

01:12:35.340 --> 01:12:42.579
Morris on minutes at 45? I feel like that's a

01:12:42.579 --> 01:12:45.409
good number. I think he hits the over. Because

01:12:45.409 --> 01:12:47.029
Brian will bring one and a half, and he's going

01:12:47.029 --> 01:12:52.710
to get 45 plus stoppage time. And the Mariners

01:12:52.710 --> 01:12:57.949
just lost six to five. Classic Mariners. Classic.

01:12:58.850 --> 01:13:00.369
But that means that's the time to win. Yeah,

01:13:00.369 --> 01:13:03.189
but they won those first eight minutes. Yeah.

01:13:03.489 --> 01:13:05.689
So you're saying he'll get more than 45 because

01:13:05.689 --> 01:13:11.649
of injury time. Yeah. Cedar, what about you?

01:13:12.900 --> 01:13:14.840
I'll hit the over on that. I want to see him

01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:18.279
come back and really make an impact on the game.

01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:21.260
We need a guy like that to make an impact in

01:13:21.260 --> 01:13:23.380
order to play at our full potential, I think.

01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.300
Is he starting for you, Dan? No, I don't think

01:13:27.300 --> 01:13:31.659
Morris starts. I think he comes on at half. That's

01:13:31.659 --> 01:13:34.180
what I'm thinking, too. Because he came on at

01:13:34.180 --> 01:13:41.380
the 60 -minute mark last week. Yeah. That's a

01:13:41.380 --> 01:13:43.800
pattern that Brian likes to ease folks back in,

01:13:43.859 --> 01:13:46.420
and we've seen him in the past have players coming

01:13:46.420 --> 01:13:50.079
at 45 before they're ready to return fully. So

01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:53.199
we're all hitting the over? We're all hitting

01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.520
the over, I guess, unless there's no injury time.

01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:59.880
I guess I should have worded my question better.

01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:02.359
It depends on the scoreline. If it's Real Madrid,

01:14:02.539 --> 01:14:07.800
then there's no stoppage time. Well, this was

01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.819
a great episode. I'm glad you all were here.

01:14:10.979 --> 01:14:13.699
And I guess we'll record again on Sunday, right?

01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:19.779
Yeah. Yeah, I'm good for that. Yeah. Afternoon.

01:14:19.779 --> 01:14:22.899
After we have another match and before we play

01:14:22.899 --> 01:14:25.060
Colorado on Wednesday. So we'll hopefully have

01:14:25.060 --> 01:14:29.380
a lot to talk about. We can talk about Jordan

01:14:29.380 --> 01:14:31.619
Morris getting a brace. A hat trick. Imagine

01:14:31.619 --> 01:14:35.159
that. There's some times in these games where

01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:37.279
you see moments of brilliance at him that if

01:14:37.279 --> 01:14:40.850
he could. Do it full -time when he's healthy.

01:14:41.310 --> 01:14:44.529
And we've seen him do it, but not as much this

01:14:44.529 --> 01:14:48.609
year because of injury. This team could be fantastic.

01:14:51.710 --> 01:14:56.390
Two years ago at KC, he scored four. Was that

01:14:56.390 --> 01:15:00.170
the opening of the season when Leo had three

01:15:00.170 --> 01:15:04.750
assists? And then he fell off the face of the

01:15:04.750 --> 01:15:08.239
earth. Oh, Leo. Well, he had another good game

01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:10.100
in Portland until he took his shirt off. I was

01:15:10.100 --> 01:15:13.859
at that game. That was actually my first Sounders

01:15:13.859 --> 01:15:16.479
game. Really? Yeah, and then I was like... Were

01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:19.100
you wearing the Timbers jersey you sent us a

01:15:19.100 --> 01:15:20.640
picture of the other day? I'm going to burn it.

01:15:22.020 --> 01:15:26.699
But were you wearing it? No, I was wearing a

01:15:26.699 --> 01:15:28.760
Sounders shirt. I was wearing the Bruce Lee kit.

01:15:29.770 --> 01:15:33.229
I mean, the guy that roots for OKC, to me, used

01:15:33.229 --> 01:15:35.069
to have been a Timbers fan. That's all I'm saying.

01:15:35.090 --> 01:15:36.210
All I'm going to say is that we got the ring.

01:15:36.550 --> 01:15:40.010
Oh, yeah. OK, here's the thing, though. I have

01:15:40.010 --> 01:15:43.010
a buddy that said that it's more than likely

01:15:43.010 --> 01:15:47.310
Sonic's come back in two years or less. I mean,

01:15:47.350 --> 01:15:50.420
hopefully the announcement's this summer. so

01:15:50.420 --> 01:15:53.319
i i heard a homeless guy in an alley he told

01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:55.239
me he was like oh yeah the sonics are coming

01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:57.760
back like who knows man like i'm not believing

01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:00.420
anything that anybody says until i see it you

01:16:00.420 --> 01:16:02.739
know i'm not holding my breath i cannot trust

01:16:02.739 --> 01:16:05.279
the nba that might have that might have been

01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:08.680
um what what's the commissioner's name silver

01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:12.340
adam and i'm adam silver that was in the alley

01:16:12.340 --> 01:16:14.640
that you met no who was the one before him no

01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:17.779
the one before him david you don't say his name

01:16:17.779 --> 01:16:23.369
on this podcast Fuck David Stern. I was born

01:16:23.369 --> 01:16:26.250
in 2003. Fuck Clay Bennett and fuck Howard Schultz.

01:16:27.010 --> 01:16:30.350
Yes, yes, yes. I was born in 2003. I have no

01:16:30.350 --> 01:16:35.510
ties to the Sonics yet. Well, you will. Once

01:16:35.510 --> 01:16:37.170
they come back, yes. Because I'm not trying to

01:16:37.170 --> 01:16:40.170
go to Portland and watch them play. I mean, I've

01:16:40.170 --> 01:16:45.310
been... Wait, how did you get into OKC? I like

01:16:45.310 --> 01:16:48.060
Shea. I like Shea and I like Chet because Chet

01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:51.960
would play on Saga. Oh, even worse. That's fair.

01:16:52.079 --> 01:16:56.560
That's not worse. Well, they don't win nothing.

01:16:56.739 --> 01:16:59.500
I like Drew. Was it Drew Timmy? We call him Timmy's

01:16:59.500 --> 01:17:03.100
Turner. He was probably the greatest center that

01:17:03.100 --> 01:17:06.479
didn't go to the league. He had the stash going.

01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:11.260
The Adam Morrison stash? That might be before

01:17:11.260 --> 01:17:16.600
your time. Yeah, for sure it was. Yeah, I went

01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:18.680
to Santa Clara and I'm a Husky fan, so of course

01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:21.800
I hate Gonzaga. No, I mean, I started following

01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:26.319
the NBA in 2015 when Curry, that year that the

01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:29.720
Warriors won, Curry. I thought the NBA folded

01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:35.859
in 2008. It still exists. The NBA? Yeah, I thought

01:17:35.859 --> 01:17:38.039
all the teams just stopped playing. It was a

01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:44.750
lockout. No, I'm saying the Sonics left the entire

01:17:44.750 --> 01:17:47.850
league folded. Nothing happened after that. Only

01:17:47.850 --> 01:17:50.670
in Seattle. Seattle, they isolated themselves.

01:17:51.789 --> 01:17:55.649
Dan, are you a Rockets fan? No. No basketball?

01:17:55.670 --> 01:17:58.210
I haven't watched basketball since like 1995.

01:17:58.689 --> 01:18:00.789
At least you're not a Mavs fan. But those Rockets

01:18:00.789 --> 01:18:02.930
teams were good back then. They were, weren't

01:18:02.930 --> 01:18:06.829
they? There's a theme of Texas sports in 1995,

01:18:07.069 --> 01:18:13.289
huh? Yeah. I was just about to say. Yeah. The

01:18:13.289 --> 01:18:18.270
Sonics were good then, too. No, yeah. So I started

01:18:18.270 --> 01:18:21.949
watching long after the Sonics were gone. Makes

01:18:21.949 --> 01:18:27.489
sense, young 'un. Makes sense. Well, we'll get

01:18:27.489 --> 01:18:29.329
the Sonics back. They'll win championships. The

01:18:29.329 --> 01:18:32.729
Sounders will win championships. The Reign, Storm,

01:18:33.329 --> 01:18:40.470
the Orcas. The Seawolves? The Orcas are the...

01:18:40.470 --> 01:18:43.109
Sea Wolves. I love the Orcas. Oh, the Cricket.

01:18:43.170 --> 01:18:46.390
Our Cricket team. No, no. That's awesome that

01:18:46.390 --> 01:18:48.609
we have a Major League Cricket team. We do, we

01:18:48.609 --> 01:18:50.569
do. The Thunderhawks. Seattle Sports is alive,

01:18:50.710 --> 01:18:53.029
man. No, your basketball team, the Thunderhawks?

01:18:53.170 --> 01:18:54.949
Yeah, the Superhawks. The Superhawks. They need

01:18:54.949 --> 01:18:57.149
to win a championship. Yeah, we made it to the

01:18:57.149 --> 01:18:59.130
Final Four. That's the best we've done. But yeah,

01:18:59.189 --> 01:19:00.750
Superhawks, Minor League Champions. Here's the

01:19:00.750 --> 01:19:02.550
thing. Hopefully, it turns into the G League

01:19:02.550 --> 01:19:04.789
team. So, we'll see. We'll see what happens.

01:19:05.759 --> 01:19:08.939
Imagine that, Cameron, the GM of a G League team.

01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:12.000
No, Gary Payton's going to be the GM, but I do

01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.880
hope to be an employee of the team. You can give

01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:20.260
us all media passes. That's right. That's right.

01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:24.600
When you guys do the Super Hawks Ultras podcast.

01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:27.479
Shoot, I'll move over there if they need an employee.

01:19:30.739 --> 01:19:33.859
Well, it's been fun, boys. Let's get out of here

01:19:33.859 --> 01:19:53.699
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01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:37.359
Alexa, who's the best MLS team of all time? The

01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:39.739
Seattle Sounders are both unequivocally and incredibly

01:20:39.739 --> 01:20:42.020
the best MLS team of all time.