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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say he's cheating. Welcome to Sounders

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Scuttlebutt. I'm Aaron Lingley. And, as usual,

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I'm joined by a few of our Alliance Council friends.

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We have Secretary Cameron Collins. How are you

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doing, my friend? I'm doing good. I was told

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earlier today by someone on Alliance Council,

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they're here for my I -don't -give -a -fuck era.

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And that's where I'm at. Oh. For the record,

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it wasn't me. No, it wasn't. It was not you.

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And for the record, that is Alliance Council

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extraordinaire, the title I've given him. Nicholas

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Biela. Hello. How are you, my friend? I'm doing

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okay. I also was in the Alliance Council meeting

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tonight. And so we are recording rather late

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to start off for this Thursday or Tuesday night.

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Scuttlebutt late night. It's your favorite. Brown

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liquor special. That's not my pants zipper. Yeah,

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are you sure? What's happening? We can't see

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it. It is below the screen for us. That just

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came up. That's my beer. It just popped up. I

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mean, I am wearing sweatpants. Oh my goodness.

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I'm going to open my Liquid Death first because

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they should sponsor us. I was going to say, at

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this point, I think you're 9 out of 10 times

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drinking on Liquid Death. Sorry, everyone. This

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is a zipper that goes all the way around. Why

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don't you talk to me a little bit in that nice

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sultry voice you've got there, Aaron. Open that

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beer. That had serious tell -em -large -marge

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-sensha vibes. Oh, there's a movie reference

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I get. All right, I have a new one. I went to

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my local BevMo. I love BevMo. I love it, too.

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It's like Toys R Us for adults, now that Toys

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R Us isn't there anymore. Total Beer and Wine

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is like the superstore, though. Toys R Us as

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in it being a kid where a kid can be a kid? Yeah.

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Yeah, but most of an adult can be an adult. Oh,

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okay. Yeah. Anyway, so I found this. I like IPAs,

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even though you think it's a fad, Cameron. Didn't

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you say that? I don't think it's... I mean, I

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think it's a fad in that it got very popular

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and people put out too many. Cameron's a non

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-believer. I am. Although I will say... I will

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say the other day I had a pale ale that was not

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an Indian pale ale that was a different kind

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of pale ale from... What's the name of that bar

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that Haley's husband works at, Nicholas, where

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we had our... Sea Pine? Sea pine. I had a sea

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pine pale ale. It was a different kind. And holy

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fuck, it was fantastic. Sea pine does good stuff.

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Sea pine. They are good. Go check it out. Not

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very far from the stadiums. No, it's right behind

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another great place, Westland Distillery. So

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I want to drink my beer. So I found this 15 -pack

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1 .5. Jesus. Never seen that before for $19 .99

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in this economy. Come on. I'm going to do it.

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It's from Founders out of Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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So the Midwesterners made this all -day IPA.

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It's a Session IPA. Citrusy, crisp, and refreshing.

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So, Nicholas, can you tell us what Session means?

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This is a word that comes up a lot. Well, I feel

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like it means that you're going to get a lisp.

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Because... What was that? It just exploded all

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over him and started foaming out of his mouth.

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You know, this is not good for founders. I've

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had this in the fridge for at least two hours.

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There's no reason this should be happening to

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me. But to answer your question, usually sessions

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are lower in alcohol so you can crush them. I

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was going to get there until I got soaked. And

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that's kind of the point and why I wanted this.

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That's kind of cool. So like on a hot day, that's

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what you'd want to drink. Yeah. I mean, for me,

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hot day, I'm looking for the Rattlers, which

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are even lower than that, you know, under 3%,

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usually mixed with fruit juice, like a grapefruit

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Rattler, Stiegel, Schoffenhofer, those are my

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faves. You know what I've been having lately

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with a friend of mine who is... Every other week

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staying in my guest bedroom because they're going

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through a divorce and needs a place to live every

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other week while custody issues happen is both.

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You heard it here first, folks. So we've been

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drinking a lot. And we had. I should come over.

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What are those? We had fresca with tequila, so

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we made our own Palomas, basically. Yeah, okay.

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So that was good, but light tequila. Or you grab

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one of those fancy ciders everyone loves. Oh,

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I was going to say squirt. Yeah, tequila squirt.

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Tequila squirt. The fresca for the grapefruit

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one. But no, the white claw. Get a white claw,

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and you throw some fresca with it. Get it a little

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bit less alcoholic, and then you can just drink

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it all day long. Fresca is so underrated. I lived

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off that at my grandpa's house. Such a fantastic

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beverage. I mean, if you're going Midwestern,

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then it's more like Burners. Burners has a lot

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of sugar in it. Burners? Burners. Oh, Burners.

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Is that delicious? Wow. We are just all over

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the map today. Well, I'm going Midwest for you.

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Okay. Gosh. All right, yeah. Anyway, it's good.

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I mean, it's 4 .7. I wanted to have, like, more

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than two beers, and lately when I've had alcohol

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on the show, it's been high ABVs, and I've just

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been like, I want to crush them with you as I

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watch you drink your Rainiers. I mean, that's

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why I drink the Rainier, because I can have a

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few. You're immune to them at this point. I like

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them. The big thing, though, is just when you're

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drinking, you know, now that I'm in my 40s, when

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you're drinking those, you got to make sure that

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before you go to bed to empty your bladder, because

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if you, if you don't, you're going to wake up

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with like a sore back and it takes like an hour

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of sore back. Yeah. Yeah. That hasn't happened

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to me yet. I get sore just from sleeping, whether

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I'm drinking or not. So I don't know what you're

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talking about. Cameron, you get sore from walking

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by a bush. I don't understand, but what happened

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to you today before the show you told me? Oh

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yeah. I mean, I have like poison Ivy on both

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of my calves right now. Oh. Yeah. And that's

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sore, is it not? That is sore, you're right.

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Yeah. I am inflamed. All right, soccer. Let's

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talk soccer. What's going on? You guys were just

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at Alliance Council, so I know. Tell us what

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you can tell us. Before we get to that real quick,

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Club World Cup, Chelsea won 2 -0 today over Fluminense.

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How do you say that? I'm a little bummed about

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that. No, it was absolutely amazing. Both goals

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scored by a guy who used to play for them. So

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that was kind of interesting. Like Clippy Ploppy?

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They each... Same guy scored both. Oh, never

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mind. I heard it differently. So it was a 2 -0

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win, meaning one half of teams that I've supported

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for 25 years, and them I've supported since 1995.

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So what's that, 30 years ago? is in the World

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Club World Cup final. And tomorrow at noon, PSG

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plays against Real Madrid to give me a chance

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to have a team I've supported for 25 years make

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it into the Club World Cup final. And then I

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don't know who I root for. I guess Chelsea, right?

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Probably. Because PSG did win Champions League,

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so they got their trophy. Oh yeah, you've got

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to balance out your portfolio, right? That's

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why you have a diverse one. Instead of just loving

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one club like me. Maybe I'll share it in the

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Discord. If you are not a member of our Discord,

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please go join it. It's fun. There's lots of

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cool people and conversations going on. But you

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can actually buy a replica of the Club World

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Cup trophy with a picture of the Sounders behind

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it that says qualified. Yeah, I like the trophy.

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I don't know if I need that considering we just

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qualified. I view it as more of an event because

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I was there. Yeah. No, and that's completely

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fair. And with that said, I've got a great picture

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of me with the actual trophy and Roma and Bernie,

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and I love it. But yeah, I think I'm more likely

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to buy the World Cup trophy thing that you showed

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me earlier this week. The World what? The World

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Cup trophy. Yeah, they're selling a little...

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I heard World Cuck. Yes, the World Cup trophy.

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Have a seat in that chair. I would say about

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two to three inches tall, maybe two and a half

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inches. That's probably why he's a World Cup.

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World Cup trophy, but it is heavy -duty metal.

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It was a really cool trophy. It's expensive,

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but they have them over at the... What's that

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shop directly across from our pro shop? On the

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Field? On the Field, correct. So that was cool.

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We did... We did have an Alliance Council meeting

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tonight, though. That is correct. A lot of private

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stuff coming up, but a few things, I mean, stuff

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we can't make public yet, I should say, but a

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few things we can talk about is that the Council

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is taking part, of course, in the scarf vote

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for the scarf that season ticket holders will

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be able to choose with their season ticket package,

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so keep an eye out for information on that moving

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forward. We had some great discussion around

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the fact that people only get one account. Per

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account, they only get one MLS season pass code

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rather than per ticket. And so we're going to

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look into whether that is a Sounders thing or

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if that's how all the teams are doing it or if

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that's Apple, is it the league, what's behind

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that. I mean, the reality is there's an argument

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to be made that if you have two tickets, you

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might even be better off just putting them on

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two separate accounts as two single tickets.

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I mean, especially if... I mean, that's what

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people will do. Some. Others will just be too

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much of a hassle. But I mean, you could just

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put ticket in Roma's name then. Yeah. You know,

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so... then you're getting to account things.

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But the question is, if you do that, if you split

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it off to someone else, do they lose their status

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in terms of how many tickets they have and how

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long you've had them? So that, of course, is

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a question. Well, that would affect for the inaugural

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season, but everyone else shouldn't matter too

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much. Although I know you can split accounts.

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You could be like, hey, this is going to be my...

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This is my burner account. My seatmate. I mean,

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I used to have three tickets, but two were original

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and one I picked up later when Rich was sitting

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next to me. And they did not give me original

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season ticket pricing for all three tickets,

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only my two original ones, and then I had to

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pay more. for the third ticket, which was kind

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of frustrating. You'd think if you added one,

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you'd be able to get it at your other price because

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you're adding to the same account. I disagree.

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I think that would be the legacy purchase. I

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think they would have sold a lot more tickets

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if they'd done it the other way. I think they

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made a huge mistake because people would add

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more tickets. That's not the hell I'm going to...

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I'm okay with that one. That's like when you

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buy your house in 1972, but you add an addition

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15 years later. You can't just be like, this

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is the house we grew up in. The difference in

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price isn't that much. It's like $10 a game.

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I mean, the ticket next to me that I let go...

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It's a sentimental thing. The ticket next to

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me that I let go, except for the two seasons

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I had it, has been empty every season but two.

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So there's literally a seat that's going unsold

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every single game. Because the Sounders don't

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want to give it to me at the inaugural season.

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That's not true. There was a sellout. They've

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never sold that ticket, so it's never been a

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true sellout then. So you'll be our sellout debunker.

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Nope, it was empty today. Although I am going

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to buy it for Wednesday against Colorado for

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my nephew, who got in trouble and is being shipped

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off to Seattle for being a bad boy. Or... So

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they send them to the punk rock parade. Or you

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could just buy the cheapest get -in -the -door

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ticket since no one's in that seat. Yeah, that

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is something I could do, but... You could. I'm

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not going to pay for the ticket. My parents are,

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as his grandparents, so I'll let them decide

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that. This sounds like a really good lesson learned

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here. You do bad and then... My grandpa will

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buy a ticket for you and you'll be able to go

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to a game together. Here's the thing is, he doesn't

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get to hang out with his friends now because

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he's here and that's what he's mostly upset about.

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So your time out, how does that make you feel?

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Yeah, I don't know. That's weird. I mean, this

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is like the plot of every 80s teen comedy. I

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know, yeah. You guys are going to go back in

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time. Are we going to get, like, young Demi Moore

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for, like, one crazy summer? Or are we going

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to get, like... Or, like, a Ferris Bueller type

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thing on your way to the stadium. Just in the

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car, march the match. Anyway. Okay. Was there

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anything else? I think that was predominantly

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what's going on. I mean, there's a few other

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small things. You know, of course, the Circle

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of Legends Hall of Fame. It's happening soon,

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and there will be votes on it. There's no information

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to be public about that, but keep an eye out

00:15:25.059 --> 00:15:27.139
on that if you're a Sounders season ticket holder.

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The new, what's it called, the throwback week

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is coming up. That just got announced, didn't

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it? They announced that they're having a throwback

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week, yeah. Today at 2 .40 p .m. on their website.

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Yeah, so they're going to do a lot of cool events

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for it. I don't know. I haven't seen any information

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about that that I can neither confirm nor deny.

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I'm literally on the website right now. SoundersFC

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.com, the archive collection. Okay. Okay. So

00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:53.539
whatever it says, you can publicly speak to it.

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Speak to it publicly. Sounders FC today announced

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its first ever throwback week later this month

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as the club turns back the clock and brings a

00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.159
wave of 90s nostalgia to Lumen Field during the

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home matches. A third kid that connects the club's

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past to its future. Yep. Yep, exactly. Cool.

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So it's not showing the kit. So that's probably

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where the demarcation is. It is saying news that

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they're saying, cue our shocked Pikachu face,

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Cameron. The new kit is debuting at Seattle Throwback

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Week home matches on July 16th versus Colorado

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and July 19th versus San Jose. I had no idea.

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What the heck? Did I just break this and I'm

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not in the landscape? Even though it's on their

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website. I broke it to you. Yes, I did not know

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this could be happening. Aaron, this is such

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a shock to me. Oh, my goodness. It should be

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the president. Yeah. Never mind. I'm not going

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to go there. So here's the deal. If it is publicly

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announced by the club, we can start talking about

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it. We still can't talk about any details about

00:17:05.210 --> 00:17:07.589
the jersey because that is not public information.

00:17:07.789 --> 00:17:10.589
The fact that they're... wearing the jersey on

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these days we can talk about that so it's kind

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of griffey's wearing the jersey in the picture

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griffey's wearing something that looks like it's

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from the 90s uh this isn't fun for me anymore

00:17:32.349 --> 00:17:35.029
And Cameron's in full lawyer mode, just turned

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to stone. He's just looking down at his penis.

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When you sign an NDA, you live up to the NDA

00:17:40.710 --> 00:17:46.289
you signed. That's exactly right. Teachers, pet.

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No, that's not how it works. That's not quite

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how that works. Really? But I will say this.

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So, as they state, items from the archive collection.

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will be available for purchase at the Pro Shop

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and MLSstore .com starting on July 16th. Now,

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this is your reminder for anything related to

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awesome items from the club. Go to the store.

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Go to the store. Go to the Pro Shop. Call them

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if you can't go in person. Call them. They will

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ship it to you. They will hold onto it for you

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at the store. They can take your card information

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over the phone. One, the MLSstore .com, I believe,

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is partnered by Fanatics. Yep. And every single

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time I hear issues of, oh, I ordered this, and

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then two weeks later they told me that they dropped

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the order, canceled the order, and now it's not

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available anywhere. Just don't do that. Trust

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me, if you like what you see and you're interested,

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call the store. Not only that, but also there

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are... the the it's just the finances for that

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go directly to the sounders yeah they go to the

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club rather and the sounders don't get anything

00:19:01.619 --> 00:19:05.359
from the online sales yeah yeah now i will say

00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.599
last time we did buy our shoes directly from

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adidas because remember they accidentally launched

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them early and they took it down but they still

00:19:14.339 --> 00:19:17.759
honored our orders and sent them early yes so

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i showed up to the uh annual business meeting

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that i was hosting with the shoes on before they

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were supposed to be publicly available but adidas

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released them so it wasn't ruining anything the

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gazelles right yes yeah yes and so just just

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know occasionally people let things out early

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so keep an eye out uh we won't tell you that

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but maybe our discord might because we we obviously

00:19:41.250 --> 00:19:43.269
will never break an nda but other people could

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yeah they didn't sign one so fans fans have all

00:19:47.589 --> 00:19:49.490
this speculation but i will never comment on

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a jersey leak or anything like that because it's

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not something that we do because even if i say

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it's not then i'm confirming that it's not right

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yeah like we just don't comment on it like oh

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like even oh it that's not that's not accurate

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or oh the yeah it's just and then usually i can

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tell you in general they're just not accurate

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but we won't comment on them after the fact it'll

00:20:13.269 --> 00:20:16.549
be like yeah look how bad that was but that's

00:20:16.549 --> 00:20:18.970
often the case that they get it wrong. Yeah.

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For example, we can look to the Salish Sea Kit.

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The previews that footy headlines were not even

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close. They're completely wrong. Colors were

00:20:31.369 --> 00:20:35.230
close, but not even right. Yeah. So it's just

00:20:35.230 --> 00:20:39.039
interesting on that. So take things with grains

00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.740
of salt, but be excited and have fun with it.

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Part of the fun is the speculation. That's the

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trade -off for us is we get to have our hand

00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:49.960
involved in the process, but we don't get to

00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:52.660
be part of the speculation. So there's the trade

00:20:52.660 --> 00:20:55.779
-off there. Yeah, that is the bummer. But you

00:20:55.779 --> 00:20:59.000
know what? It just means that the Salish Sea

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Kit comes out, and we're excited that you get

00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:04.259
to see and enjoy something that... not only have

00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:06.339
we known about for several years, we had direct

00:21:06.339 --> 00:21:08.799
input on and did some really important things

00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.839
to ensure it wasn't enhancing certain parts of

00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.480
our body that we didn't want enhanced. I mean,

00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:19.019
you're not wrong. I mean, it doesn't need enhancing

00:21:19.019 --> 00:21:22.599
because it's so awesome. We're talking about

00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:30.509
my dick. Okay, then. Well, I was trying to time

00:21:30.509 --> 00:21:33.210
that specifically for Aaron in the middle of

00:21:33.210 --> 00:21:37.650
a drink. I didn't need a spit take. McCann is

00:21:37.650 --> 00:21:40.230
doing it for me for the third opening in a row.

00:21:40.730 --> 00:21:44.730
Yeah, so founders all day. So I think that's

00:21:44.730 --> 00:21:47.250
everything from a community perspective we have

00:21:47.250 --> 00:21:48.930
to talk about, yeah? I can't think of anything

00:21:48.930 --> 00:21:53.309
else that... Right now, yeah, I think that's...

00:21:53.309 --> 00:21:58.400
Oh, no, no, no, no. I have some big news. that

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at the last Sounders match, the Sounders had

00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:09.640
signs up and a tent set up for the Vamos Sounders

00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:15.880
Club, which is a club specifically tailored towards,

00:22:16.579 --> 00:22:20.420
all fans are eligible for this club, but it's

00:22:20.420 --> 00:22:26.839
specifically tailored for Spanish -speaking Sounders

00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:34.339
fans. And so really excited about that. And basically,

00:22:34.579 --> 00:22:40.200
it's a fan club launch to celebrate the Spanish

00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.299
-speaking community, invite new fans into the

00:22:42.299 --> 00:22:45.640
Sounders FC family, similar to the first match

00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:53.119
on us. And it's an expression of, you know, belonging

00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:57.210
in our... in our community here. Some of the

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benefits will include a Vamo Sounders Club member

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cap, some access to exclusive events, experiences

00:23:03.869 --> 00:23:07.569
with Spanish -speaking Sounders players, which

00:23:07.569 --> 00:23:11.950
is great. We definitely want to see more stuff

00:23:11.950 --> 00:23:17.769
like that. We want to see more outreach in the

00:23:17.769 --> 00:23:21.109
Latin community, Latin American community here

00:23:21.109 --> 00:23:23.769
in Seattle. So it's really, really cool to see

00:23:23.769 --> 00:23:27.849
that. And it is a free membership, so feel free

00:23:27.849 --> 00:23:36.690
to join in. And there will be QR codes at the

00:23:36.690 --> 00:23:41.250
Sounders matches for that. I don't think they've

00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:46.049
launched it on their website outside of if you

00:23:46.049 --> 00:23:50.880
had the QR code. Did you just hide a burp? I

00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:53.819
did. I did. That was really impressive. You,

00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.900
like, breathed in when you, I was, that was a

00:23:57.900 --> 00:24:01.319
dance. Yeah, I was in the middle of that for

00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:05.579
sure. But that's also going to be big if you're

00:24:05.579 --> 00:24:07.539
a fan of League's Cup. So if you want to see

00:24:07.539 --> 00:24:10.200
Sounders taking on Cruz Azul, don't do it, Cameron.

00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:16.779
There you go. There you go. There we go. And

00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:19.039
then all communications. You can sign up to the

00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:22.799
website, though. Correct. And all communications

00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:26.000
for this will be in Spanish. So that's fantastic.

00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.819
It's soundersfc .com slash vamos dash sounders.

00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:39.400
And so the League's Cup offer will be two free

00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.920
tickets for a League's Cup game and additional

00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.940
tickets will be $15 each limit to up to four

00:24:45.940 --> 00:24:50.119
tickets per member. And do you know what? I'm

00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:51.900
not going to get exactly right, but there's something

00:24:51.900 --> 00:24:55.140
to do with the Sounders match September 13th

00:24:55.140 --> 00:24:57.400
against the LA Galaxy as well. Correct, yeah.

00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:02.480
So there's going to be a Vamos Sounders Club

00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.359
-themed gathering on September 13th against the

00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:09.859
Galaxy. The club, to my knowledge, if I remember

00:25:09.859 --> 00:25:12.859
correctly, are specifically targeting specific

00:25:12.859 --> 00:25:18.559
games that will be... um of higher interest for

00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:24.380
for the community yep and and uh i all i have

00:25:24.380 --> 00:25:29.519
to say is because i don't speak spanish i'm sorry

00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.940
my i i took i took four years in high school

00:25:32.940 --> 00:25:35.480
i took three years three semesters in college

00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:40.359
thank dude the problem for me is that with my

00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:45.480
hearing problem hearing Spanish is always really

00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.960
tough for me, and it always was. So I can read

00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:54.259
and write it better than I can speak it. Interesting.

00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.420
But it's also I don't use it enough, so I never

00:25:58.420 --> 00:26:01.859
feel super confident in it. And I always feel

00:26:01.859 --> 00:26:06.859
like an awful person. That's a problem with the

00:26:06.859 --> 00:26:09.779
way we teach our children languages. We wait

00:26:09.779 --> 00:26:12.480
until they're in their most self -conscious period

00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.539
of their life. to practice another language versus

00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:16.700
elementary school. I started in third grade.

00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:21.619
Well, okay. Most public schools don't. It's usually

00:26:21.619 --> 00:26:25.579
high school. I do think, and that's usually too

00:26:25.579 --> 00:26:27.900
late to start learning a language. I mean, you

00:26:27.900 --> 00:26:29.500
can do it, but you usually want to start earlier.

00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.140
I will say, though, and part of it is because

00:26:33.140 --> 00:26:35.420
I have a degree in French, but living in California,

00:26:35.460 --> 00:26:39.319
I do understand the gist of Spanish at times

00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:42.720
and can occasionally read it. but I cannot speak

00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:47.019
it. Hey, guys. I live on Rancho's Peña Esquitos

00:26:47.019 --> 00:26:54.519
Drive. I am basically bilingual up here. By up

00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:56.380
here, I mean in San Diego. I do want to take

00:26:56.380 --> 00:26:58.960
a moment to shout out the awesome James Willard.

00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:04.259
I said this earlier tonight that in a very terse

00:27:04.259 --> 00:27:07.220
tone that I get frustrated that James Willard

00:27:07.220 --> 00:27:11.839
might as well pronounce his name correctly. Willard.

00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.539
It's okay. I spelled it wrong when he won a public

00:27:14.539 --> 00:27:18.720
award a few years ago. But he got criticized

00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.700
for the way he was pronouncing someone's name

00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:23.660
when he's pronouncing it exactly like it says

00:27:23.660 --> 00:27:26.160
to pronounce it on the pronunciation sheet given

00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.720
by our club and or other clubs. And so for me,

00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.660
you're going to do the official pronunciation

00:27:32.660 --> 00:27:38.099
you get. That's his job. His job is to literally

00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:41.799
read it as it's. So if you have a problem with

00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.819
it, I mean, go talk to the club. Don't get on

00:27:45.819 --> 00:27:47.640
James' case. Don't go on Facebook and Twitter

00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:51.539
and start harassing him. It's armoire. Yeah,

00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.819
I mean, at least he's not saying tacos like that

00:27:53.819 --> 00:27:56.420
first British guy they tried to give us. His

00:27:56.420 --> 00:27:59.039
fake British accent is much better than that

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.160
guy's. Who is that? I don't know. The first year,

00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:02.740
they had a different British guy who said tacos

00:28:02.740 --> 00:28:07.809
instead of tacos. Was that? Really? Yeah. We

00:28:07.809 --> 00:28:09.890
got James. You're just being relegated to that

00:28:09.890 --> 00:28:13.549
British guy. No, not James. No, I know, but you're

00:28:13.549 --> 00:28:17.210
just lumping him in. No, that other British guy.

00:28:17.210 --> 00:28:18.849
There's James, and then there's some other British

00:28:18.849 --> 00:28:21.809
guy. But no, but wasn't Arlo our first? No, he

00:28:21.809 --> 00:28:23.670
was our first. No, he was actually our second

00:28:23.670 --> 00:28:25.789
announcer because our first announcer was in

00:28:25.789 --> 00:28:28.869
stadium. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

00:28:28.869 --> 00:28:30.690
wait, wait. I got a fun trivia question for you.

00:28:31.510 --> 00:28:34.609
As Cameron said, Kevin Calabro was our first

00:28:34.609 --> 00:28:39.490
announcer. So legendary, legendary play -by -play

00:28:39.490 --> 00:28:43.190
announcer in American sports. Who? Well, he said

00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:46.369
British. That's why I brought up Harlow. Was

00:28:46.369 --> 00:28:52.390
his color man in the first year? Well, he was

00:28:52.390 --> 00:28:56.180
actually the color guy for... the guy that was

00:28:56.180 --> 00:28:57.920
before him with the Sonics. Eventually, Marcus

00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.000
Johnson took over and was his... Oh, you're not

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.799
talking about when he was first working for the

00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:07.720
Sonics? No, I am talking about when Greg Vanney

00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.799
was... Never would have gotten that. No way.

00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:15.960
Greg Vanney was on the broadcast for the Sounders

00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.660
in the first year. Greg Van... And was his nephew

00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:22.799
on the Sounders at that time? Was Eric Zavalletta

00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.109
on the first season Sounders? Or did he come

00:29:25.109 --> 00:29:27.430
later? No, he was later. He was later. Wait.

00:29:28.009 --> 00:29:30.970
What? Like coach of Toronto and then eventually

00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:35.549
L .A., Greg Vanney. Yeah. Yeah. Eric Zevalet

00:29:35.549 --> 00:29:37.269
is his nephew and has followed him to all his

00:29:37.269 --> 00:29:39.430
teams after he left school. That makes sense,

00:29:39.609 --> 00:29:44.130
actually. Toronto, but also what? Yeah. Greg

00:29:44.130 --> 00:29:46.869
Vanney. That's interesting. The Toronto connections.

00:29:47.049 --> 00:29:49.109
Well, it's crazy because he had just recently

00:29:49.109 --> 00:29:53.819
retired. His last season was 2008, so 2009. In

00:29:53.819 --> 00:29:58.500
2009, he was with the Sounders and then went

00:29:58.500 --> 00:30:01.359
on to his professional coaching career. That's

00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.019
great. I love Kevin Calabro, though. He's still

00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:08.480
doing it in Portland, as far as I know. They

00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:09.859
replaced him for a year, and then he came back.

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.119
Oh, Zavaleta? No. Wait, who? Wait, what? Kevin

00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:20.920
Calabro. Oh, Calabro. Yeah. Arlo, if he came

00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.640
back, would do the Chicago Fire. Unfortunately.

00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:25.940
Well, he did, actually. He did a few games with

00:30:25.940 --> 00:30:27.619
them. He did some games, yeah. But he didn't

00:30:27.619 --> 00:30:30.119
do full -time. Yeah. But doesn't he know that

00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:34.660
he's in our intro? Yeah. I'm sure he does. One

00:30:34.660 --> 00:30:36.819
of the best calls. Yeah. I don't even know what

00:30:36.819 --> 00:30:40.299
goal that was, but just the... It's incredible.

00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.660
So, yeah. So that's still homework for you, by

00:30:44.660 --> 00:30:47.180
the way. That's still homework for you, Aaron,

00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:51.519
that you need to take our intro and kind of give

00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.680
little bookends and where the Easter eggs are

00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:58.539
for each of those moments. I was actually thinking,

00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.539
how do we create... That should be our listeners.

00:31:00.900 --> 00:31:03.059
Yeah. How do we create a cool little intro for

00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:05.299
the Ultras episodes that are going to come out

00:31:05.299 --> 00:31:06.960
that's different? I was going to use the same

00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.720
one. I'm like, you know what? We should make

00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:13.660
a different one. Yeah. No, I have... That's actually...

00:31:13.660 --> 00:31:18.559
That's happening. Yes. That's what's up. It's

00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:23.500
happening. I just need to... Are we good on the

00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:27.059
Almost Sounders Club? Yeah, yeah. The big thing

00:31:27.059 --> 00:31:29.980
is I don't think we can link to it just yet.

00:31:30.539 --> 00:31:33.440
It's live on the website. I understand that,

00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.200
but the club did mention that they want to...

00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:39.660
Yeah, they're promoting... Being in control of

00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:43.359
their initial promotion. So for now, if you're

00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.200
at the games, go to the tent and scan the QR

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.059
code, but we're not going to post the link just

00:31:49.059 --> 00:31:52.200
yet. Yeah, most, I mean, if we posted it, most

00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.079
web traffic would probably flow through us, based

00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.700
on our... And how important we are. Aren't we

00:31:58.700 --> 00:32:01.579
the number one podcast? Three, I think, number

00:32:01.579 --> 00:32:07.500
three. In the world. So... Before we start, because

00:32:07.500 --> 00:32:09.359
we'll take a break here and then we'll come back,

00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.019
I do want to hit one thing. It was part of our

00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:15.059
mailbag and it should be something that we talk

00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:17.519
about at the top of the show is Stephen Fry.

00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.759
We should also, Nicholas... I was expecting to

00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.180
just save that for the second half. Let's get

00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:27.660
to it, but I will say, Nicholas, do note that

00:32:27.660 --> 00:32:29.380
we need to get to Death Watch, unfortunately,

00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.920
as well, because so many people have died since

00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:38.200
our last episode. Stephan Fry, we did have a

00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:39.700
question. Let's space those two things out, by

00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:42.119
the way. Stephan Fry is alive. Stephan is alive

00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:48.940
and well. Let's clarify. Listener Yaya asked,

00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:55.359
how's Stephan? And so the press conference today

00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.400
with Brian said that he tested negative on his

00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.960
CT scan, which is wonderful news. He is in concussion

00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:05.349
protocol. He could be in it for a while. We saw

00:33:05.349 --> 00:33:08.869
how long it took for Christian to come out of

00:33:08.869 --> 00:33:10.730
it, but that doesn't mean it will take that long.

00:33:10.849 --> 00:33:14.829
It could be as soon as five to seven days in

00:33:14.829 --> 00:33:16.809
theory. I mean, three to five really, but come

00:33:16.809 --> 00:33:20.690
on. So for the foreseeable future, he will not

00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:24.309
be playing for us, but he came and he was told,

00:33:24.450 --> 00:33:26.509
hey, you don't need, Schmetzer was texting him.

00:33:26.609 --> 00:33:28.450
Hey man, take your time. You don't need to show

00:33:28.450 --> 00:33:31.049
up. He showed up at practice today. He came out

00:33:31.049 --> 00:33:35.680
and was a leader. was there to support the team.

00:33:35.779 --> 00:33:41.119
And so such a huge looming presence for our team.

00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:45.019
And just, I'd be interested to see what you think,

00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.880
Nicholas, but I know for me, that was a difficult

00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:53.720
moment when he went down and wasn't moving. And

00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.359
then you saw him get turned over and he did,

00:33:56.460 --> 00:33:59.240
I forget, you might know the name, but when your

00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.900
hands involuntarily come up, like towards your

00:34:01.900 --> 00:34:06.599
neck. Yeah, the fencing response. Yeah. And so

00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.599
when I saw that, I was like, oh, God. And, you

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:13.820
know, it's not just that he's our goalie. It's

00:34:13.820 --> 00:34:17.460
not just that he's a good person. It's also that

00:34:17.460 --> 00:34:19.380
I've got to spend time with him. You know, I

00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:26.239
was on the COVID relief committee with him. There's

00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:28.880
a reason he's our captain. He has done so much

00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.440
in the community. He has done so much for ECS

00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.659
publicly and privately. Come and talk to you.

00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:42.940
I've come out to events, and he's been there,

00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.179
and he's open about it. Even when he was doing

00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:47.079
his contract docs, talking to us about what he

00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.239
was going through and where he was at. I mean,

00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:53.380
this dude is such a giving, amazing person. So

00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:56.130
it was more than just watching. an athlete go

00:34:56.130 --> 00:34:58.789
down and and you saw the way not only the sounders

00:34:58.789 --> 00:35:02.510
reacted columbus yeah they were they were distraught

00:35:02.510 --> 00:35:06.630
too yeah i mean yeah the other the other things

00:35:06.630 --> 00:35:11.710
that were i was not in the building when zakawani

00:35:11.710 --> 00:35:14.429
got injured yeah that was in colorado but that

00:35:14.429 --> 00:35:16.929
did i mean as i was there for his first game

00:35:16.929 --> 00:35:20.510
back but yeah yeah with steve every single day

00:35:20.510 --> 00:35:22.530
that was the first thing or not that day sorry

00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:25.519
every week uh because i was helping run his uh

00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.579
non -profit at that time that's the first thing

00:35:28.579 --> 00:35:30.360
i thought of was it took me right back to steve's

00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.260
injury and it was very upsetting yeah um one

00:35:35.260 --> 00:35:41.820
of the things uh that i thought was really something

00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:44.340
and you can see see it on some of the videos

00:35:44.340 --> 00:35:46.219
that are posted when they're they're looking

00:35:46.219 --> 00:35:48.820
at his you know him being loaded on the ambulance

00:35:48.820 --> 00:35:53.679
is hearing the stadium Stefan and that just gave

00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.460
me chills. Yeah. But I think the video didn't

00:35:56.460 --> 00:35:59.860
do justice to exactly how loud it was. Well,

00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:02.360
given that the video was being taken from the,

00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.760
the, that North end of the stadium, I think that's

00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:08.860
pretty impressive. I mean, I sit on like the

00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:11.099
45 year old man in that sign and it was as loud

00:36:11.099 --> 00:36:12.800
as any other chant I've ever heard in that stadium.

00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:15.659
The whole stadium was going like, I mean, I was,

00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:18.320
I was obviously I'm in San Diego. I was watching

00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:23.139
it on Apple TV. It was. It was pretty, it's pretty

00:36:23.139 --> 00:36:25.440
apparent how loud it was. I think also in contrast

00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:29.440
to how silent it was. Yes. Because every single

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.280
human being in that stadium, like you were saying,

00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.699
has a connection with Stephen Fry unlike most

00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:39.199
other sounders. There's only probably one hand

00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.320
we can count for the ones that are. Well, yeah,

00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.400
I mean, he's literally the longest tenured sounder.

00:36:46.059 --> 00:36:50.099
Even one Christian? Yeah, he came in 2014. Christian

00:36:50.099 --> 00:36:55.559
came in 2015. Wow. Yeah, because keep in mind,

00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.260
we acquired Stephen Fry the same day as Chad

00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:01.900
Marshall. Interesting. That was a good day in

00:37:01.900 --> 00:37:03.539
Sounders history. And it was interesting because

00:37:03.539 --> 00:37:08.420
he had been hurt and had been hurt several times

00:37:08.420 --> 00:37:12.940
and lost his starting job in Toronto. So it was

00:37:12.940 --> 00:37:15.500
his second chance for a first chance, really.

00:37:16.989 --> 00:37:19.389
And he took it on. Although early on, remember

00:37:19.389 --> 00:37:22.909
his, his distribution was not the best, but everything

00:37:22.909 --> 00:37:26.510
else he did perfectly. Which is keeping balls

00:37:26.510 --> 00:37:30.210
out of the goal. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, that

00:37:30.210 --> 00:37:32.789
was, it was, I think I'm hoping based off of

00:37:32.789 --> 00:37:35.630
the last couple of days that, you know, it looked

00:37:35.630 --> 00:37:38.230
worse than it did. It looked worse than it was,

00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:44.510
than it was. Because it looked as it was weird

00:37:44.510 --> 00:37:46.969
though, too. It's like that. didn't seem like

00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:49.730
a typical, I mean, he didn't need to get anywhere

00:37:49.730 --> 00:37:52.389
near the ball. You know, it was almost like he

00:37:52.389 --> 00:37:56.210
ran into a crowd of, of, of players versus. Yeah.

00:37:56.289 --> 00:37:59.769
He ran and looked odd. Like I'd never seen him

00:37:59.769 --> 00:38:04.489
do it that way. I was surprised. And maybe that's

00:38:04.489 --> 00:38:10.190
why that they called it a. Corner kick rather

00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:13.289
than a foul. I thought, well, of course, like.

00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:15.210
I was like, why wouldn't they stop the game?

00:38:15.269 --> 00:38:17.550
Because all they're going to do is bring in Andy,

00:38:17.630 --> 00:38:18.789
and he's just going to kick it, and the game's

00:38:18.789 --> 00:38:20.670
going to be over. This is stupid. But then the

00:38:20.670 --> 00:38:22.289
discussion was around, well, it's because it's

00:38:22.289 --> 00:38:24.630
a corner kick, and Columbus should have had one

00:38:24.630 --> 00:38:27.210
more. I think technically that is the right call,

00:38:27.389 --> 00:38:35.050
because Stefan made contact. That's what was

00:38:35.050 --> 00:38:37.150
weird about it. It wasn't like he went up and

00:38:37.150 --> 00:38:39.070
got undercut or anything like that. No, yeah,

00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:42.860
like Columbus did nothing wrong. Like, did nothing

00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:46.679
wrong. The player. No, no, no. I didn't know

00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:49.440
that at the time, though, right? This was my

00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.000
live thoughts. Yeah, yeah. And I'm using Columbus

00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.159
as a whole because I definitely want to talk

00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.039
a little bit about Wilford Nancy being just yet.

00:38:57.219 --> 00:39:00.300
That's pretty cool. We were already talking about

00:39:00.300 --> 00:39:03.719
how much we respected him last week in last week's

00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:11.539
episode. Take the respect I had going into the

00:39:11.539 --> 00:39:14.039
game for how great of a coach and how he's probably

00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:18.179
the best coach in MLS. I think that match as

00:39:18.179 --> 00:39:21.260
a whole showed that was the pudding to that proof.

00:39:23.500 --> 00:39:28.179
He's a very talented coach, and he's also a class

00:39:28.179 --> 00:39:32.059
act. So they've got something good over there.

00:39:32.659 --> 00:39:39.230
I think we have something good over here. It

00:39:39.230 --> 00:39:44.570
was exactly the kind of responses I would want

00:39:44.570 --> 00:39:47.630
to see from my club and from the people involved,

00:39:47.849 --> 00:39:55.329
with the exception of the ref. I mean, I will

00:39:55.329 --> 00:39:58.090
say this. Someone in my section started chanting,

00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:01.659
you suck, ref. when everyone was silent and that

00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:04.380
that one frustrated me because this is chris

00:40:04.380 --> 00:40:06.659
i mean uh stefan's moment that we need to worry

00:40:06.659 --> 00:40:12.920
about yeah but also i thought the ref overall

00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.079
besides that flub at the end was fine and we'll

00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.119
get more into it compared to the average mls

00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:21.440
ref i mean i think he messed up i think christian

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.059
deserved a second yellow and should have had

00:40:23.059 --> 00:40:26.019
a red and i think kalani did not deserve a second

00:40:26.019 --> 00:40:28.119
yellow and shouldn't have got a red but beyond

00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:32.190
that I mean, he was better than 90 % of the MLS

00:40:32.190 --> 00:40:36.309
refs we get. I mean, my theory is very much that

00:40:36.309 --> 00:40:39.690
he realized in the moment that Kalani's second

00:40:39.690 --> 00:40:42.869
yellow was soft. Because it looked to me like

00:40:42.869 --> 00:40:47.130
he was reaching for the second yellow with Christian's

00:40:47.130 --> 00:40:50.329
foul and pulled it back when he realized, I don't

00:40:50.329 --> 00:40:53.070
really want to send off a second player. So I

00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:57.000
think that was kind of a... His version of a

00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.280
make -up call. And was that not the foul that

00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.800
led directly to the free kick where Stephan got

00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:05.639
injured? I didn't think about that. I think that

00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.840
was. I think you're right. I'm pretty sure because

00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:08.699
that was one of the last moments of the game.

00:41:08.699 --> 00:41:10.260
Although it might have gone the other direction

00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:12.679
and then came back the other way. I'd have to

00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:14.860
look at it again. It's been too long now. It

00:41:14.860 --> 00:41:18.260
was very late in the game. But anyways, want

00:41:18.260 --> 00:41:25.019
to go to break? Yeah. Yeah, let's go to break.

00:41:25.219 --> 00:41:40.300
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00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:46.780
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00:41:46.780 --> 00:41:49.539
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00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:52.420
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00:41:52.420 --> 00:41:54.820
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-n dot c -o -m. Now back to your regularly scheduled

00:43:09.070 --> 00:43:22.659
programming. Before we get to the Sounders match,

00:43:22.980 --> 00:43:26.400
we're going to try to see if Aaron can drink

00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.440
more beer without getting soaked. So I'm going

00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.280
to do the whole house party trick of tapping

00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.199
it. You guys really wanted me to hit record before

00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.400
this happened. Have you seen the shows about

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.159
how the tapping doesn't actually work? No, I

00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:40.980
haven't seen the shows about tapping beer. I

00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:43.059
still tap it, despite the fact I know scientifically

00:43:43.059 --> 00:43:48.440
it does not do anything to help it. So when are

00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.900
you going to tap the beer? Because right now

00:43:49.900 --> 00:43:51.699
you're just jerking off in front of us and it's

00:43:51.699 --> 00:43:56.579
really awkward. That's inappropriate. Yeah, I

00:43:56.579 --> 00:44:01.380
agree. Always making it inappropriate, Nick.

00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:05.760
I would have said this is inappropriate. Oh,

00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:10.880
what a weak sauce. Opened it slowly. Uh -oh,

00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:14.400
uh -oh. It's foaming. I put it slowly because

00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.780
I saw the phone coming. All day. It doesn't work.

00:44:18.739 --> 00:44:21.719
I should have watched the shows. No wonder it

00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:26.360
was $15 .19. You know what? You might as well

00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:30.519
have just gotten the Walgreens brand beer they

00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.619
used to have. I would love to have a Walgreens

00:44:33.619 --> 00:44:35.840
brand beer. That would be so interesting. They

00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:40.440
did. I think it was like $4 .99 a 12 -pack or

00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:44.539
$5 .99 a 12 -pack. Well, that's probably worse

00:44:44.539 --> 00:44:47.559
for you than any other beer. It was incredibly

00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.679
not good, but... Guaranteed to get kidney stones.

00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:58.219
Oh, Big Flats. Here you go. Big Flats. Big Flats.

00:44:58.219 --> 00:45:07.300
$2 .99 for a six -pack. That's like 1980s prices.

00:45:10.250 --> 00:45:15.909
He got 1980s prices right now. Wow. Okay, no.

00:45:16.610 --> 00:45:21.650
No. It's the water that makes it. So let's get

00:45:21.650 --> 00:45:25.969
to the match. Let's get to the match. Wait, wait,

00:45:25.989 --> 00:45:31.530
wait. Do we want to real quick answer the question

00:45:31.530 --> 00:45:35.489
here in the Discord mailbag or do we want to

00:45:35.489 --> 00:45:40.929
leave that for after? Do it. Okay. With Morris

00:45:40.929 --> 00:45:42.789
healthy, what's the optimal starting front four

00:45:42.789 --> 00:45:45.369
and sub pattern? I really felt they fell off

00:45:45.369 --> 00:45:48.030
a cliff when Ferreira moved to the 10 after Albert

00:45:48.030 --> 00:45:51.010
subbed off last match. Should they try PDLV or

00:45:51.010 --> 00:45:56.670
Leyva at the backup 10? You're not going to put

00:45:56.670 --> 00:46:00.070
Leyva as the backup 10. There's too many talented

00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:01.449
attackers ahead of him. I also thought Pedro

00:46:01.449 --> 00:46:04.989
was playing the 10. When I was watching him out

00:46:04.989 --> 00:46:08.170
there, he was at the 10. Patrick, by the way,

00:46:08.190 --> 00:46:12.460
GC, shout out for the... the comment, but maybe

00:46:12.460 --> 00:46:14.360
that's, maybe I wasn't watching closely enough.

00:46:18.500 --> 00:46:23.260
Yeah. I mean, I, I, this is a question that,

00:46:23.260 --> 00:46:26.460
that was answered at the annual business meeting

00:46:26.460 --> 00:46:29.219
by our GM, which asked, why aren't our DPs playing?

00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.840
Uh, for me, that's what I was. Yeah. I mean,

00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.820
I, I would like to see Ryan Kent and Pedro de

00:46:36.820 --> 00:46:40.050
la Vega out there. I don't know how you bench

00:46:40.050 --> 00:46:43.030
Rothrock at this moment though, but I think both

00:46:43.030 --> 00:46:44.630
of those players need more minutes and they should

00:46:44.630 --> 00:46:47.250
be starting because until you get them consistent

00:46:47.250 --> 00:46:48.730
minutes, they're not going to be able to do anything

00:46:48.730 --> 00:46:50.389
because they need the damn minutes to do stuff.

00:46:52.750 --> 00:47:01.369
So to me, I guess it's Jordan up top, Kent on

00:47:01.369 --> 00:47:04.530
the right, Rothrock on the left with Pedro coming

00:47:04.530 --> 00:47:10.460
in at the 10 to back up Russ Mack. Yep. Yep.

00:47:10.460 --> 00:47:12.820
That's what it is. I mean, Leiva's great at passing,

00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.260
but I don't know. He's more of a center mid,

00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:16.980
center defensive mid than a center attacking

00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:21.840
mid. So he'd be more of a six or traditional

00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.960
10, and we don't play the traditional 10. Considering

00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:28.980
our inability to consistently score multiple

00:47:28.980 --> 00:47:34.050
goals, I want consistency at the top. four, five,

00:47:34.389 --> 00:47:37.690
three, whatever is going to be the right sequence

00:47:37.690 --> 00:47:39.949
of players. And we haven't figured that out yet.

00:47:39.989 --> 00:47:42.230
But that's the lineup I want to see because we've

00:47:42.230 --> 00:47:44.469
invested in Pedro de la Vega. We've invested

00:47:44.469 --> 00:47:49.110
in Ryan Kent, who is replacing Paul Areola, who

00:47:49.110 --> 00:47:51.969
was doing exactly what we need that area to do.

00:47:52.989 --> 00:47:58.369
And then you'll have to... I will die on the

00:47:58.369 --> 00:48:02.440
hill if that Rusnak is our... is our heartbeat

00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:06.000
of any sort of offense that we can do right now.

00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.500
I think he would be better in a different system,

00:48:09.539 --> 00:48:12.780
but he's still, he's still the best we got going.

00:48:13.139 --> 00:48:16.760
Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, he's got seven goals,

00:48:16.860 --> 00:48:19.960
three assists. Yeah. He's, but if we played through

00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.559
the middle more, instead of going through the

00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.980
wings, he would have more goals and way more

00:48:23.980 --> 00:48:28.840
assists. So I want to see consistency with those

00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:34.440
four. And Jordan should be healthy enough to

00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:38.280
start. And with Obed announcing the U22, we're

00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:41.800
not bringing in a U22 number nine. So that dream

00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:46.820
is dashed. I guess not announced. Sorry, we're

00:48:46.820 --> 00:48:50.820
being reported by Nico Moreno. I don't think

00:48:50.820 --> 00:48:54.349
that's accurate. We might bring in a number 9,

00:48:54.449 --> 00:48:56.190
but he's not going to be a starting number 9.

00:48:57.130 --> 00:49:01.510
Well, that was never really... Well, I don't

00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:05.389
follow how that would... If Obed's a U22, that's

00:49:05.389 --> 00:49:09.170
a starter as a U22. Obviously, we can't bring

00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:14.550
in... We have the space for multiple U22s. Okay.

00:49:15.210 --> 00:49:20.110
Because if we are using... If we are making Obed

00:49:20.110 --> 00:49:27.119
a U22... it's giving him a salary bump but presumably

00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.079
that would not take place until after his option

00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.320
is exercised which i think they said they were

00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.199
going to exercise they're exercising an option

00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:38.360
that's what i mean yeah but but we still had

00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:43.239
two other u22 spaces and That wouldn't give him

00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.579
an immediate pay bump. It would just give him

00:49:45.579 --> 00:49:48.039
a pay bump at the end. Well, I guess I'd have

00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.019
to see how things are structured. It's all about

00:49:50.019 --> 00:49:52.260
the structuring of it. There is a way that they

00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:53.900
could do it where it doesn't kick in until next

00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:56.539
year. Exactly. And I think that's how you would

00:49:56.539 --> 00:49:58.420
do it. When people are announced to contract

00:49:58.420 --> 00:50:00.599
extensions, they don't get a raise immediately.

00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.380
They get it at the end of their current contract.

00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:06.860
It depends on if you're dealing with contracts

00:50:06.860 --> 00:50:10.090
that are guaranteed or not. Oftentimes, you will

00:50:10.090 --> 00:50:13.630
front load a signing with money because then

00:50:13.630 --> 00:50:17.849
the guaranteed money up front allows you to hit

00:50:17.849 --> 00:50:20.429
the cap in a different way, especially in certain

00:50:20.429 --> 00:50:26.130
other sports. That's how Tom Brady was never

00:50:26.130 --> 00:50:28.289
the highest paid quarterback and yet still making

00:50:28.289 --> 00:50:33.909
bank. It's not quite the same, but there is ways

00:50:33.909 --> 00:50:37.820
to do it. NFL might be the simplest. Miami's

00:50:37.820 --> 00:50:41.599
bringing in a $30 million player, potentially

00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.800
in this window, not as a DP, who then will be

00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:49.880
a DP next year once Sergio Buckets is gone. Sergio

00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.719
Buckets. I mean, for me, it's... I mean, honestly,

00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:57.159
I'd like to see MLS do what the NHL did with

00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:01.320
Ilya Kovalchuk, where... Basically, Atlanta tried

00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:04.820
to sign Kovalchuk to, this is how long ago it

00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:06.480
is, we're talking about a team that no longer

00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:10.500
exists. Atlanta tried to sign Kovalchuk to like

00:51:10.500 --> 00:51:14.719
a 10 -year contract and back end all of that

00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.820
to the end of the contract, clearly circumventing

00:51:17.820 --> 00:51:21.280
the intent of the rule. And NHL just stood and

00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.739
said, nope, nope, we're not allowing that. And

00:51:23.739 --> 00:51:28.760
they got to stop that with this. with what LAFC,

00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:33.579
Miami has done, where, yeah, it's in the technicalities,

00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:35.880
but it's not the spirit of what these rules are

00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:41.320
for. I don't agree with Miami. Miami had to trade

00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:43.539
players in order to get those spots. I blame

00:51:43.539 --> 00:51:47.480
Minnesota for trading them all that extra money

00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.099
space. You know what I mean? They had to develop

00:51:50.099 --> 00:51:53.849
that money. from getting rid of players. Yeah,

00:51:53.989 --> 00:51:59.969
but I'm talking about the Gareth Bale bullshit.

00:51:59.969 --> 00:52:03.710
Yeah, Gareth Bale. When they send Batman down

00:52:03.710 --> 00:52:07.199
there. When Christian Bale was signed to the

00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.340
LAFC. Dude, the dude is a hell of a method actor.

00:52:10.539 --> 00:52:14.280
He was going to take in his latest role. I know,

00:52:15.420 --> 00:52:20.800
that's what I'm saying. I believe it. I mean,

00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.860
I agree with you. I think what that does, though,

00:52:24.900 --> 00:52:27.739
is usually has... long -ranging ramifications.

00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.920
That's the question, though. The Dodgers are

00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.360
never going to have to get punished for the Otani

00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:36.599
contract. Correct. Despite the fact they're going

00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.199
to owe him money forever. The Mets are still

00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:44.400
paying Bobby Bonilla. No, no, no. I think Bonilla

00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.179
Day is finally over. Was this the last one? Yeah,

00:52:48.179 --> 00:52:50.460
it was last weekend. I'm pretty sure Bonilla's

00:52:50.460 --> 00:52:53.760
contract is finally done. Brian Bosworth is finally

00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:57.800
done. He was paid for decades afterwards. But,

00:52:57.900 --> 00:53:03.500
I mean, yeah. To me, I mean, okay. Oh, no, I'm

00:53:03.500 --> 00:53:08.360
wrong. 2035, my bad. Oh, my God. I think this

00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:11.079
comes down to a question that we got before,

00:53:11.300 --> 00:53:16.340
which is, is it time to move on from both Adrian

00:53:16.340 --> 00:53:22.340
and Coach? This is from Tim Hamilton. Long thing

00:53:22.340 --> 00:53:24.980
to it, but that's basically what he said. How

00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:28.139
do you tell the landlord to move out? I mean,

00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.260
I have heard from many people, including people

00:53:30.260 --> 00:53:32.440
in the press who would never say this publicly,

00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.880
that if Adrian isn't going to invest in this

00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.559
team so we can win, he needs to sell the team.

00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:43.179
I think Nicholas and I get to see a side of Adrian

00:53:43.179 --> 00:53:45.260
that other people don't. We know how passionate

00:53:45.260 --> 00:53:48.869
he is. We know how much he loves the team. I

00:53:48.869 --> 00:53:51.630
don't agree with him necessarily that spending

00:53:51.630 --> 00:53:58.230
money wisely... He doesn't think spending money

00:53:58.230 --> 00:53:59.769
has any correlation to winning. I was going to

00:53:59.769 --> 00:54:01.449
say wisely is your key component to that. And

00:54:01.449 --> 00:54:03.630
I think you should spend money wisely. I agree

00:54:03.630 --> 00:54:05.949
with the overall concept that both Garth and

00:54:05.949 --> 00:54:09.730
Craig has. That's why I don't blame Craig. But

00:54:09.730 --> 00:54:13.289
I do think we are underspending and we're going

00:54:13.289 --> 00:54:16.269
to have a Pete Carroll situation where the Seahawks...

00:54:16.650 --> 00:54:18.829
just eking into the playoffs every year and never

00:54:18.829 --> 00:54:21.690
winning championships and we haven't won a championship

00:54:21.690 --> 00:54:26.570
i mean we've won two in the last decade okay

00:54:26.570 --> 00:54:30.690
and this is where my counterpoint is people are

00:54:30.690 --> 00:54:32.809
reading what they want to read they see what

00:54:32.809 --> 00:54:37.130
they want to see and Since our last championship,

00:54:37.530 --> 00:54:39.849
our last MLS Cup, we're going to just completely

00:54:39.849 --> 00:54:41.849
ignore Champions League winning, apparently.

00:54:42.050 --> 00:54:46.489
But since our last MLS Cup championship in 2019,

00:54:46.829 --> 00:54:50.690
we finished second, second, 11th, the year we

00:54:50.690 --> 00:54:54.250
won Champions League, second and fourth. How

00:54:54.250 --> 00:54:58.170
many MLS Cups did we win? We've been in an MLS

00:54:58.170 --> 00:55:01.030
Cup final. We've been in the final four. Go ahead.

00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.420
No, back up an inch. Physically from your microphone.

00:55:04.420 --> 00:55:09.260
Yeah, I gotcha, I gotcha. I'm just, I, there

00:55:09.260 --> 00:55:13.199
are 30 teams in Major League Soccer, one gets

00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.579
to win every year. How many times have we been

00:55:16.579 --> 00:55:19.360
in, say this number, because this is the impressive

00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:20.719
one, how many times have we been in the Western

00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:25.179
Conference Final? A lot. It's most of those years.

00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:37.159
Yeah, including last year. So I would rather

00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:42.619
be in a strong position to make a run every year,

00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:47.599
finishing top. Our average since 2019, our average

00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:54.039
finish is 3 .8, and that includes the year we

00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.179
finished 11th. And I think our all -time finish

00:55:56.179 --> 00:56:00.110
is... probably high twos because it was two before

00:56:00.110 --> 00:56:03.809
we missed the playoffs. Yeah. And so, so, so

00:56:03.809 --> 00:56:11.670
the consistency is, is definitely to me, it trumps,

00:56:11.730 --> 00:56:15.190
I would rather be us than LA galaxy who had just

00:56:15.190 --> 00:56:17.710
won a championship. I would rather this than

00:56:17.710 --> 00:56:21.929
the bipolar winning MLS cup and being an absolute

00:56:21.929 --> 00:56:26.210
fucking embarrassment. I. Aaron, where are you

00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:28.070
on that? Would you take being terrible? I lean

00:56:28.070 --> 00:56:33.349
more towards Nicholas mainly because I like to

00:56:33.349 --> 00:56:39.309
watch more often winning than losing. And there's

00:56:39.309 --> 00:56:42.250
hope every season when you have a team that can

00:56:42.250 --> 00:56:44.510
reach a quality team that can reach the Western

00:56:44.510 --> 00:56:48.710
Conference Finals. If your team can reach the

00:56:48.710 --> 00:56:50.449
Western Conference Finals every year, there's

00:56:50.449 --> 00:56:51.610
always hope that you're going to win the cup,

00:56:51.769 --> 00:56:56.809
right? You're one of the favorites. In hindsight,

00:56:58.630 --> 00:57:02.869
it's frustrating to look back and be like, God,

00:57:02.889 --> 00:57:05.409
we just finished and don't. We get there and

00:57:05.409 --> 00:57:08.489
don't actually finish. We just finish high. I

00:57:08.489 --> 00:57:12.670
think in terms of just the health of everything,

00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:20.690
we kind of need a little bit of that Joe Roth,

00:57:21.030 --> 00:57:24.860
Dempsey. We need a little bit of splash that

00:57:24.860 --> 00:57:28.019
it still sounders. That's, I think, where the

00:57:28.019 --> 00:57:30.539
wisely needs to come in, because I think there's

00:57:30.539 --> 00:57:33.820
a lull right now, and I think it's mostly visible.

00:57:34.139 --> 00:57:37.159
The easiest thing to see is the stands. We are

00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.300
still a lot of... We're still a lot. I think

00:57:40.300 --> 00:57:41.940
things are different if Areola is playing, though,

00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.900
based on what we were seeing out of him. I mean,

00:57:44.940 --> 00:57:48.940
so... I hope so, but that... But then we'll never

00:57:48.940 --> 00:57:51.360
know that. But here's the thing, though. And

00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.320
Kent's not the same thing. You know what I mean,

00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:55.280
though. There needs to be something splashy but

00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.579
still sound. My argument about the consistency

00:57:57.579 --> 00:58:00.599
and the fact that we're doing really well, I

00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:06.980
will acknowledge this, that we have to be making

00:58:06.980 --> 00:58:11.000
moves. We have to keep making moves and smart

00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:14.840
moves because in these years, we've always had...

00:58:15.150 --> 00:58:20.030
Since, let's say, since Clint Dempsey, we've

00:58:20.030 --> 00:58:25.329
had Dempsey, Obafemi Martins, Nico Ladero, Raul

00:58:25.329 --> 00:58:29.130
Ruiz Diaz. We've had these splashy attacking

00:58:29.130 --> 00:58:32.690
players who have been top five in the league.

00:58:32.889 --> 00:58:36.030
Who do we have now? That's where I'm a little

00:58:36.030 --> 00:58:38.530
concerned. Who's our Cal Raleigh? It's supposed

00:58:38.530 --> 00:58:41.710
to be Jesus. It's supposed to be Jordan. They

00:58:41.710 --> 00:58:45.889
think it's Jordan. but it's not happening so

00:58:45.889 --> 00:58:49.409
that's that's a problem but even even okay let's

00:58:49.409 --> 00:58:51.349
just say for the sake of argument that it is

00:58:51.349 --> 00:58:55.670
even if it is jordan let's say jordan's been

00:58:55.670 --> 00:58:57.670
healthy all year long let's just let's just say

00:58:57.670 --> 00:59:01.090
just for the sake of argument um so let's say

00:59:01.090 --> 00:59:05.730
that it is jordan well the thing is though jordan

00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:11.289
30 So you're now coming out of the prime. But

00:59:11.289 --> 00:59:14.030
Deuce is also coming from the Premier League.

00:59:14.150 --> 00:59:17.010
Deuce is also Deuce. Whereas Jordan is also the

00:59:17.010 --> 00:59:19.289
greatest American player of all time at the time.

00:59:19.809 --> 00:59:26.210
So my thing is right now, we need to find our

00:59:26.210 --> 00:59:32.170
next big talent. Agreed. Could be Pedro. It could

00:59:32.170 --> 00:59:35.780
be. I think it amplifies how frustrating that

00:59:35.780 --> 00:59:40.219
journey has been. But I want to give amazing

00:59:40.219 --> 00:59:45.840
props to the depth that we built. We have so

00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:49.619
much depth. We are seeing that play out this

00:59:49.619 --> 00:59:55.739
season. We really are seeing the depth where

00:59:55.739 --> 01:00:01.019
we're against PSG. We had... We're using our,

01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:04.019
what, six -choice center back against PSG for

01:00:04.019 --> 01:00:06.960
the last 15 minutes, and Alex rolled on? It wasn't

01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:10.659
a choice before the match. But Alex has now played

01:00:10.659 --> 01:00:12.920
multiple games as center back and has been fantastic.

01:00:13.380 --> 01:00:17.420
But the point is, even if you're going to take

01:00:17.420 --> 01:00:19.519
away that dig, you're talking about John Bell,

01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:25.019
you're talking about players... Here's the difference.

01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.420
Every one of those players... is a starting level

01:00:28.420 --> 01:00:31.239
center back in this league. Which is great. We've

01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:34.940
raised our floor. We don't have a single starter

01:00:34.940 --> 01:00:39.500
level forward. With me saying Jordan is a winger.

01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:41.980
You know that's what I say. He scored all his

01:00:41.980 --> 01:00:44.099
goals from the wing. Even when he started forward,

01:00:44.300 --> 01:00:45.840
he moved to the wing. That's when he scored.

01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.840
We don't have a starting... Mazovsky is a starting

01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:53.420
forward. For one of the bottom five teams. There's

01:00:53.420 --> 01:00:56.440
30 teams. There's 30 teams. He's a starting forward.

01:00:56.940 --> 01:01:00.340
If we're in the court of law, my friend. And

01:01:00.340 --> 01:01:03.219
Danny, like Nicholas has said, is always in the

01:01:03.219 --> 01:01:06.940
right place. But if he was a starting level on

01:01:06.940 --> 01:01:09.510
a good team forward. he would have double the

01:01:09.510 --> 01:01:11.389
goals he has right now, considering how often

01:01:11.389 --> 01:01:13.710
he's in the right place, how often he gets to

01:01:13.710 --> 01:01:16.289
where he needs to be. If he were Raul, he would

01:01:16.289 --> 01:01:18.489
be leading the league in goals. So he shouldn't

01:01:18.489 --> 01:01:21.070
be starting for the Sounders right now? No, I

01:01:21.070 --> 01:01:22.650
don't think that's exactly what he's saying.

01:01:22.949 --> 01:01:25.070
No, I think he's... In the perfect world. In

01:01:25.070 --> 01:01:26.630
the perfect world, correct. Jordan should be

01:01:26.630 --> 01:01:27.949
starting right now. He should not be starting.

01:01:27.949 --> 01:01:30.130
In the perfect world. But I would rather see

01:01:30.130 --> 01:01:32.829
Jordan playing left mid and us have an actual

01:01:32.829 --> 01:01:34.389
number. And there's the problem. So Jordan goes

01:01:34.389 --> 01:01:36.469
up top, and he's kind of a one -trick forward.

01:01:37.710 --> 01:01:42.690
I disagree with that premise, but because you

01:01:42.690 --> 01:01:45.409
need... I mean, they've said they couldn't find

01:01:45.409 --> 01:01:47.130
a number nine, and that's why Jordan stayed at

01:01:47.130 --> 01:01:50.510
it. Which means they're not happy with him at

01:01:50.510 --> 01:01:52.269
number nine. That doesn't mean he's a one -trick

01:01:52.269 --> 01:01:55.849
forward. It just does mean that the style of

01:01:55.849 --> 01:01:58.429
play that the Sounders play require a forward

01:01:58.429 --> 01:02:01.809
like Jordan Morris. I'd like to see a little

01:02:01.809 --> 01:02:05.130
more agility out of our forward. He doesn't...

01:02:06.739 --> 01:02:09.440
I'd rather not gum up our wings even more at

01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:13.659
this point. I don't know. He can play left and

01:02:13.659 --> 01:02:18.119
right. We know that. But maybe having more than

01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:20.380
one forward on the field at the same time. Or

01:02:20.380 --> 01:02:25.960
just a 4 -4 -2. Bring in another starting level

01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:28.659
forward, even if he's coming off the bench, then

01:02:28.659 --> 01:02:33.050
you have a super sub that is coming in. If it's

01:02:33.050 --> 01:02:35.070
a young player who needs a chance to start over,

01:02:35.170 --> 01:02:36.610
like Ryan Kent, someone like that, obviously

01:02:36.610 --> 01:02:38.030
we're not going to get someone of Ryan Kent's

01:02:38.030 --> 01:02:41.110
quality. Ryan Kent, despite his struggles here,

01:02:41.329 --> 01:02:44.909
is the best player on the Sounders, talent -wise,

01:02:45.130 --> 01:02:48.829
ceiling -wise. He needs to be on the field as

01:02:48.829 --> 01:02:51.630
often as possible. But again, let's just say

01:02:51.630 --> 01:02:56.809
this game, this game are subs. jordan morris

01:02:56.809 --> 01:03:00.210
pedro de la vega ryan kent john bell and the

01:03:00.210 --> 01:03:02.690
john bell was after the red cards so that's better

01:03:02.690 --> 01:03:05.210
than those subs that people have no no this is

01:03:05.210 --> 01:03:06.889
this is what i'm saying yeah but my problem is

01:03:06.889 --> 01:03:09.329
but we're still not having a forward who can

01:03:09.329 --> 01:03:11.809
score goals in the game to start and that's the

01:03:11.809 --> 01:03:15.710
problem we we know danny's scoring but like we

01:03:15.710 --> 01:03:17.809
said he's not scoring at the level that you want

01:03:18.250 --> 01:03:20.289
He's not scoring at Raul levels. He's not scoring

01:03:20.289 --> 01:03:22.070
at Dempsey level. He's not scoring at Oba levels.

01:03:22.150 --> 01:03:24.449
That's what we need. Yeah, I mean, but what I'm

01:03:24.449 --> 01:03:27.909
getting at is the fact that, okay, so in MLS,

01:03:27.949 --> 01:03:30.809
you cannot be deep at every position. Correct.

01:03:30.909 --> 01:03:33.409
You just can't. I agree. We are very deep in

01:03:33.409 --> 01:03:37.369
the midfield. We're deep in every position except

01:03:37.369 --> 01:03:42.289
for... Well, right now, we did not talk about

01:03:42.289 --> 01:03:44.110
this in the first half of the show. Oh, yeah.

01:03:44.829 --> 01:03:47.719
I mean, we're still deep, but... We are, but

01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:52.679
Jaupalo tore his ACL. Yeah. God damn it. Totally

01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.199
forgot about that. Same ACL. Well, a lot's happened

01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:57.219
this week. The Steph injury was a big thing.

01:03:57.219 --> 01:04:00.039
Yeah. But we're still deep at that position.

01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:04.199
That's crazy. Yeah. No, it's crazy, but it just

01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.820
bums me out. It's heartstrings. I'm not concerned

01:04:07.820 --> 01:04:09.900
about the performance of the team long term.

01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:15.059
No, but I don't know if it may mean that. That's

01:04:15.059 --> 01:04:20.079
the last time we see JP as a sounder. The comparable

01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:24.320
is Ozzy tore his ACL two years later at 36 instead

01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:28.139
of 34, and Ozzy came back for Atlanta, obviously

01:04:28.139 --> 01:04:30.719
lost a step and was doing spot minutes at that

01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:33.039
time. Was this the same knee, though, for JP?

01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.500
It was the same that he did the ACL the first

01:04:35.500 --> 01:04:37.869
time. Sometimes there's just a mental component

01:04:37.869 --> 01:04:39.969
to, like, that's what I'm concerned about with

01:04:39.969 --> 01:04:42.550
Stefan, with all the, like, how dramatic it was,

01:04:42.690 --> 01:04:44.530
and I don't mean that. But I think he doesn't

01:04:44.530 --> 01:04:46.929
know that. That's the thing. He said he doesn't

01:04:46.929 --> 01:04:48.929
remember any of it, so he doesn't know how dramatic

01:04:48.929 --> 01:04:52.630
it was. Yeah, but his wife does. Yeah, but he

01:04:52.630 --> 01:04:57.650
doesn't. I don't know. She's not going to be,

01:04:57.670 --> 01:04:59.389
like, retired. He is close to the retirement

01:04:59.389 --> 01:05:02.969
age, but I just don't think he's ready. Now,

01:05:02.969 --> 01:05:07.570
with that said, I will say with uh jp what that

01:05:07.570 --> 01:05:10.849
probably does mean is i would not be surprised

01:05:10.849 --> 01:05:15.070
if um and by the way steph rides 39 um yeah but

01:05:15.070 --> 01:05:17.750
goalies can stay around forever i would not be

01:05:17.750 --> 01:05:22.010
surprised if um with steph or with uh jp if he

01:05:22.010 --> 01:05:26.840
is one of the sounders doing autographs in one

01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.579
of the next few games or so or maybe after surgery

01:05:29.579 --> 01:05:33.659
like paul probably after surgery now what is

01:05:33.659 --> 01:05:35.300
talk to me about roster ones real quick what

01:05:35.300 --> 01:05:39.340
yeah i'm just curious just a real snippet what

01:05:39.340 --> 01:05:42.360
has there been any paul sightings around here

01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:45.199
uh last time i saw him is when i got a chance

01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.420
to meet him before game um i think he's still

01:05:48.420 --> 01:05:50.440
around i'm almost positive he's still around

01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:53.429
and doing... Yeah, because he's running with

01:05:53.429 --> 01:05:57.250
the team now. He can't... Yes, I think he's doing

01:05:57.250 --> 01:06:03.730
off -field training. Roster rules. Roster rules.

01:06:03.889 --> 01:06:08.170
With JP, because we are still in the open transfer

01:06:08.170 --> 01:06:13.150
window. He just opened up. Yeah, so JP's injury,

01:06:13.349 --> 01:06:15.829
does it allow for us to put him on the IR and

01:06:15.829 --> 01:06:21.250
open up space? A spot, but no cap. No cap relief

01:06:21.250 --> 01:06:22.829
despite the fact that he's not. But the space,

01:06:23.070 --> 01:06:26.309
correct. That is quite frustrating. And I know

01:06:26.309 --> 01:06:28.010
because the reason why I brought it up is because

01:06:28.010 --> 01:06:31.010
we had that discussion where JP's last injury

01:06:31.010 --> 01:06:34.190
was a day too late. The day after, yeah. So that

01:06:34.190 --> 01:06:37.750
seems like a rule that MLS, I mean, that fucks

01:06:37.750 --> 01:06:39.550
a team who has an injury when you can put a player

01:06:39.550 --> 01:06:42.420
on the IR. No, not necessarily, because we already

01:06:42.420 --> 01:06:43.599
use it. I don't feel like that's any different.

01:06:43.619 --> 01:06:46.840
You get one use of the salary come back, and

01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:48.480
we did that for Paul. Right, but any player that

01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:50.480
gets put on the IR, if they're out for the season,

01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:51.880
I think you should get the money back. If they're

01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:55.260
out for the season. Not if it's like, oh, they're

01:06:55.260 --> 01:06:56.760
out for a few weeks, and you're just trying to

01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:00.860
make room. I don't want NFL style PUP lists.

01:07:01.099 --> 01:07:02.940
But if a player's out for the season, why is

01:07:02.940 --> 01:07:05.079
he counting against your cap? He's not. I don't

01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:07.400
know. Their contract is intertwined with the

01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:11.840
cap. You're only able to bring in a rental. But

01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:14.699
if it's not a guaranteed contract, you don't

01:07:14.699 --> 01:07:16.880
pay him. Insurance does because of the injury.

01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.079
So why is it counting against the cap? I think

01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:24.119
that's something MLS needs to look into. I'm

01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:31.340
not against it, but I get it. Who do we have

01:07:31.340 --> 01:07:36.139
next? Oh, okay, wait. We have a very beneficial

01:07:36.139 --> 01:07:41.250
lineup over the next month. We're actually, we

01:07:41.250 --> 01:07:44.510
got sport in Kansas City at home. In Kansas City.

01:07:45.349 --> 01:07:48.650
I'm sorry, yes, in Kansas City. Then we've got

01:07:48.650 --> 01:07:51.369
a home match against Colorado, a home match against

01:07:51.369 --> 01:07:54.650
San Jose, and then we travel to Atlanta before

01:07:54.650 --> 01:07:57.110
leagues come. San Jose, I don't, San Jose's tough.

01:07:57.289 --> 01:07:58.690
They've always been tough for us, and they're

01:07:58.690 --> 01:08:01.929
actually good this year. But, yeah. We have.

01:08:02.090 --> 01:08:07.630
Let's not forget Heritage Cup. We have four games.

01:08:08.369 --> 01:08:12.030
Against teams that are all below us in the standings.

01:08:13.730 --> 01:08:21.689
Yeah. So, and of those four, three of them, sorry,

01:08:21.949 --> 01:08:24.329
two of them are outside the playoff picture.

01:08:24.930 --> 01:08:26.970
Here's the thing is, if you had told me we were

01:08:26.970 --> 01:08:29.470
going to tie with Columbus 1 -1 at home, I would

01:08:29.470 --> 01:08:32.569
have taken it every day of the week until I lived

01:08:32.569 --> 01:08:36.649
through that game. Where we again could not score

01:08:36.649 --> 01:08:40.970
goals. So I have no confidence we're going to

01:08:40.970 --> 01:08:42.770
score more than one goal against any of those

01:08:42.770 --> 01:08:45.409
teams, which I think San Jose can easily score

01:08:45.409 --> 01:08:48.210
multiple goals. Especially this is Andy Thomas'

01:08:48.409 --> 01:08:50.289
time to sit out there and prove it, and he hasn't

01:08:50.289 --> 01:08:52.029
been able to do that yet, unfortunately, outside

01:08:52.029 --> 01:08:56.529
of, I mean, in MLS play. So I don't think there's

01:08:56.529 --> 01:08:59.310
any given here. I think this could be a tough

01:08:59.310 --> 01:09:02.409
stretch, and holy cow, League's Cup is going

01:09:02.409 --> 01:09:08.470
to be a nightmare. It could be a nightmare or

01:09:08.470 --> 01:09:11.569
it could be, you'd hope, an opportunity if we

01:09:11.569 --> 01:09:14.409
just say, I don't really give a shit about the

01:09:14.409 --> 01:09:17.470
outcome of League's Cup, but it's free minutes

01:09:17.470 --> 01:09:22.750
for MLS Cup. And my concern is, and it has been

01:09:22.750 --> 01:09:26.729
for a while, is there's no identity for our offense.

01:09:26.949 --> 01:09:29.770
We are a possession team. We've heard it a thousand

01:09:29.770 --> 01:09:32.789
times. I hear it all the time watching because

01:09:32.789 --> 01:09:36.649
I can only watch Apple TV. That's all they talk

01:09:36.649 --> 01:09:41.149
about, and this matchup was very, a 1 -1 draw

01:09:41.149 --> 01:09:44.229
is two possession teams hitting each other square

01:09:44.229 --> 01:09:49.050
in the forehead, and that's what we saw. At least

01:09:49.050 --> 01:09:53.270
there was actually, I don't know, there's been

01:09:53.270 --> 01:09:55.909
some, May was a great month, and I have hope.

01:09:56.090 --> 01:09:58.489
Like, obviously, we're doing well. We're not

01:09:58.489 --> 01:10:04.739
in dire straits, but I'd like to see. I'd like

01:10:04.739 --> 01:10:06.939
to see an average of two goals a match. And I

01:10:06.939 --> 01:10:09.340
don't know why we can't come up with that identity.

01:10:09.460 --> 01:10:11.079
And I think those minutes in the League's Cup

01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:15.020
could help. But this stretch, maybe with Andy

01:10:15.020 --> 01:10:18.380
Thomas in, we'll galvanize ourselves. I hope

01:10:18.380 --> 01:10:22.439
so. This is his chance right now. Let's go. Take

01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:26.960
this job. I mean, the thing about League's Cup,

01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.659
though, to your point on that, is our first game

01:10:29.659 --> 01:10:34.020
is against Cruz Azul, which is great. I, we take

01:10:34.020 --> 01:10:37.779
them on first because Santos and Tijuana, Santos

01:10:37.779 --> 01:10:40.020
was the worst team in league Amex last year.

01:10:40.100 --> 01:10:41.899
Oh, so they're not as good as they traditionally

01:10:41.899 --> 01:10:44.319
were. That's good to know. No Santos is, are

01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:46.619
you confusing Santos league Amex with Santos

01:10:46.619 --> 01:10:49.779
in Brazil? Okay. But, but Santos and league Amex

01:10:49.779 --> 01:10:52.840
has been good in the past. They were bottom of

01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.800
the table. And Tijuana was also not great. They

01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:00.340
were kind of below what we would call the playoff

01:11:00.340 --> 01:11:03.140
pace. They used to, again, another team that

01:11:03.140 --> 01:11:05.380
has a history of being good, but it's been a

01:11:05.380 --> 01:11:09.260
while. And they've come here before for a friendly.

01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:15.180
I live like 30 minutes from their airport. If

01:11:15.180 --> 01:11:17.659
you need me to do something. Santos currently

01:11:17.659 --> 01:11:21.979
is first in Liga MX at Berger. No, no, no. They

01:11:21.979 --> 01:11:24.880
haven't even started the season yet. They're

01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:27.840
all tied for first according to Google. I Googled

01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:29.180
them and they came up and said they're in first

01:11:29.180 --> 01:11:31.000
place. I was like, what? Season has started.

01:11:31.859 --> 01:11:39.859
So they were last in Klasura? Yeah. I think you

01:11:39.859 --> 01:11:45.340
start your best choice lineup in game one of

01:11:45.340 --> 01:11:50.600
League's Cup. Because you do want to advance.

01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:54.899
You do want to keep that going. You want to qualify

01:11:54.899 --> 01:11:58.119
for Champions League. Always, always, always

01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:00.819
qualify for Champions League. I mean, that's

01:12:00.819 --> 01:12:04.760
just how it is. We had to need LA Galaxy to win

01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:06.920
MLS Cup for us to get into Champions League this

01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.659
year. Yeah. I always want to be in Champions

01:12:09.659 --> 01:12:15.960
League. Absolutely. So, take League's Cup seriously.

01:12:17.930 --> 01:12:20.970
I want a little bit of revenge as well on, on

01:12:20.970 --> 01:12:26.390
Cruz Azul. That was not great. We could have

01:12:26.390 --> 01:12:29.829
won the home game and, and obviously the, the

01:12:29.829 --> 01:12:38.850
away game changed our season. Yeah. So, so just

01:12:38.850 --> 01:12:43.569
going back to real quick Santos Laguna from 2018

01:12:43.569 --> 01:12:49.609
to 20. 22 -3, they had some pretty great seasons.

01:12:50.229 --> 01:12:51.970
They had one where they finished 14th and one

01:12:51.970 --> 01:12:54.489
where they finished 8th, but otherwise, first

01:12:54.489 --> 01:12:56.609
place quarterfinal, fourth place quarterfinal,

01:12:56.729 --> 01:12:59.050
fifth place got the runner -up, fifth place got

01:12:59.050 --> 01:13:01.270
the quarterfinal, third quarterfinal, 13th place

01:13:01.270 --> 01:13:05.590
got to the quarterfinals, but the last four...

01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:08.960
Could they call them seasons? Is each Apertura

01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:12.720
and Klasura a season? Or how do we... Yeah, they're

01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:14.539
two separate seasons. They're 23, 24, and 24,

01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.279
25 seasons. So then they have two in each. They

01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:19.420
got 9th, 15th, 18th, and 18th. So they've fallen

01:13:19.420 --> 01:13:23.920
way off. Yeah. Lots of change. Lots of change.

01:13:24.220 --> 01:13:28.359
Yeah. And then we know how good Cruz Azul is,

01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:33.319
of course. And Tijuana, if we look at them, their

01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:37.140
mascot's a dog, right? Yeah, the Zolos. And Chihuahua.

01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:43.880
They... Whoa, they've played all over. That's

01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.920
interesting. Which makes sense that they would

01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:50.859
play games in San Diego sometimes. They do not

01:13:50.859 --> 01:13:52.760
have... Wikipedia's not as good on saying their

01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:57.939
history, but they... They still have Joe Corona,

01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.079
by the way. Oh my goodness. They won the title

01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:04.710
in 2012. They're runners -up in 2019, 2020 in

01:14:04.710 --> 01:14:10.029
Copa MX. So they have not been great for a while.

01:14:10.430 --> 01:14:18.229
Didn't Landon play for them? I think he went

01:14:18.229 --> 01:14:23.770
to them when he left for his last year. He played

01:14:23.770 --> 01:14:28.949
for them for a short time. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah.

01:14:29.899 --> 01:14:34.279
So, yeah, they do Celeb Joe Corona, and I don't

01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:37.979
see any other names that... Oh, they have Raul

01:14:37.979 --> 01:14:43.319
Zuniga, a Colombian forward who... Club Leon,

01:14:43.500 --> 01:14:47.119
by the way, Landon Donovan. 2018, signed a one

01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:50.180
-year contract with Mexican Liga MX side Club

01:14:50.180 --> 01:14:54.760
Leon. There we go, that makes more sense. But,

01:14:54.859 --> 01:14:58.260
yeah, Raul Zuniga is a good player for them.

01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.699
But outside of that, yeah. So Cruz Azul is the

01:15:03.699 --> 01:15:09.640
big matchup, right? Yeah, I think so. So keep

01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:11.140
in mind, we'll talk about this more as we get

01:15:11.140 --> 01:15:13.239
closer. They're going with the Swiss method.

01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:17.920
The idea being that we did not want to have any

01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:22.500
MLS versus MLS games in League's Cup. That kind

01:15:22.500 --> 01:15:25.319
of defeats the purpose. In the first round overall?

01:15:25.699 --> 01:15:29.100
Yeah. Well, kind of a little bit of both. So

01:15:29.100 --> 01:15:31.760
what's going to happen is you're going to play

01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:37.100
your three games against Liga MX teams. And theoretically,

01:15:37.260 --> 01:15:41.840
all four teams that are in our group could advance.

01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:46.579
Theoretically. Because how it's going to be is

01:15:46.579 --> 01:15:49.720
a Swiss method where we will take the total number

01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:53.859
of points that we get and compare them to all

01:15:53.859 --> 01:15:58.949
of the other MLS teams. the Liga MX teams. And

01:15:58.949 --> 01:16:02.510
it's so... It's league versus league points.

01:16:02.909 --> 01:16:06.810
Yeah. So you're not... So if you're an easy group

01:16:06.810 --> 01:16:10.449
overall, like in the MLS, or either one... If

01:16:10.449 --> 01:16:14.029
you can't beat Liga MX, you won't advance. Basically.

01:16:14.029 --> 01:16:22.189
If your club isn't good. Yeah. So it's going

01:16:22.189 --> 01:16:25.359
to be a little different this year. um interesting

01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:29.359
i like i like that yeah i mean ultimately i i

01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:31.899
want to see more league mx mls games that's kind

01:16:31.899 --> 01:16:36.159
of the whole point um and so so there will be

01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:39.159
in the eastern and western regions Well, it's

01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:43.279
all 18 Liga MX teams and 18 MLS teams. Because

01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:47.560
before it used to be all MLS teams and all Liga

01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:49.840
MX teams. So that's where you would have, oh,

01:16:49.899 --> 01:16:53.180
we're playing Salt Lake. Like, yay, great. So

01:16:53.180 --> 01:16:57.439
that changes that. So what's going to happen

01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:07.439
is once everyone's played their games. then you'll

01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:12.899
be competing against teams from your own league,

01:17:13.020 --> 01:17:19.300
and then the top four teams from each league

01:17:19.300 --> 01:17:22.260
will advance to the quarterfinals. It doesn't

01:17:22.260 --> 01:17:24.020
have, because the regions are broken down by

01:17:24.020 --> 01:17:29.760
tiers, and then within them, we're tier... two

01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:33.500
of western three so our our western three is

01:17:33.500 --> 01:17:37.399
la galaxy cruz azul us uh tijuana rapids and

01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:41.319
santos laguna well well basically it's it's like

01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:44.260
pots like teams ranked one through three from

01:17:44.260 --> 01:17:46.720
each league teams four through six and seven

01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:50.460
through nine and you play each you you you're

01:17:50.460 --> 01:17:55.119
drawn against each of those groups Yeah, so at

01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:58.479
the end of Phase 1, the top four clubs from each

01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:00.960
league will qualify for the quarterfinals, which

01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:03.659
will take place midweek August 19 through 20.

01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:07.359
Semifinals will be the next midweek, 26th, 27th

01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.899
of August, with the final on Sunday, August 31st.

01:18:11.100 --> 01:18:14.020
Three qualifiers for the CONCACAF Champions Cup,

01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:17.939
so I assume that is the winner of the third -place

01:18:17.939 --> 01:18:19.579
game and then the two teams that make it to the

01:18:19.579 --> 01:18:28.140
final. Yeah. Interesting. So, fantastic. And

01:18:28.140 --> 01:18:31.199
no draws. Goes straight to penalties, or do we

01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:37.319
have overtime? I believe it goes straight to

01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:40.140
penalties, but each club receives one point if

01:18:40.140 --> 01:18:43.069
the game is tied after 90. and then the winner

01:18:43.069 --> 01:18:45.109
of the shootout will get an additional point.

01:18:45.430 --> 01:18:48.189
So I hate that, by the way. Every game should

01:18:48.189 --> 01:18:50.029
be worth the same amount of points, but that's

01:18:50.029 --> 01:18:54.909
just me. Wait, so you actually benefit by going

01:18:54.909 --> 01:18:58.630
to penalties? No. If you win in penalties, you

01:18:58.630 --> 01:19:00.270
get four points? Say that again? No, no, no.

01:19:00.789 --> 01:19:03.789
You win in penalties, you get two points instead

01:19:03.789 --> 01:19:05.789
of three. Oh, you get an I plus one. Yeah. Oh,

01:19:05.989 --> 01:19:10.210
okay. Yeah, but the losing team gets one point.

01:19:10.270 --> 01:19:14.510
I love that in hockey, though. I don't because

01:19:14.510 --> 01:19:16.649
the team could theoretically lose every single

01:19:16.649 --> 01:19:20.810
game of the season in overtime and go 0 for 82

01:19:20.810 --> 01:19:23.430
and make the playoffs. Good. Let's go Kraken.

01:19:23.949 --> 01:19:28.649
I almost want to do that in video game hockey

01:19:28.649 --> 01:19:32.310
just to show the absurdity. Let's go Kraken.

01:19:35.449 --> 01:19:36.989
That's the only way we're making the playoffs

01:19:36.989 --> 01:19:38.850
since we're not signing big name free agents.

01:19:39.189 --> 01:19:41.909
There will be virtual offside lines, by the way.

01:19:43.530 --> 01:19:47.550
Oh, interesting. Oh. And are we doing the traditional

01:19:47.550 --> 01:19:50.430
offside rule or the new one that they're trying

01:19:50.430 --> 01:19:52.850
out? I don't think the new one's been. I think

01:19:52.850 --> 01:19:55.489
it's still in hypothetical state at this point.

01:19:55.609 --> 01:19:58.189
Okay. Goal line technology, anything on that?

01:19:58.890 --> 01:20:04.270
Yeah, VAR technology. So, no, it's not like Club

01:20:04.270 --> 01:20:06.409
World Cup where the watch went off when it went

01:20:06.409 --> 01:20:10.060
over the goal line. It will feature VAR technology,

01:20:10.359 --> 01:20:12.739
including virtual offside lines, so I assume

01:20:12.739 --> 01:20:14.699
that if it's got that, it'll also do the goal

01:20:14.699 --> 01:20:18.399
line. But I don't know for sure. Because for

01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:21.359
Club World Cup, I think there must have been

01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:22.819
something in the ball, because if it went fully

01:20:22.819 --> 01:20:26.340
over the line, it buzzed on their watch. Yeah.

01:20:27.659 --> 01:20:29.699
Cool. Well, we haven't talked about the match

01:20:29.699 --> 01:20:32.140
yet. Yeah, I was going to say, are we going to

01:20:32.140 --> 01:20:36.659
win? What, League's Cup? No, I think he's talking

01:20:36.659 --> 01:20:38.180
about the next match. Cameron's talking about

01:20:38.180 --> 01:20:39.920
the last match. I'm talking about Columbus. We

01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.460
haven't even talked about a 1 -1 draw versus

01:20:41.460 --> 01:20:45.680
Columbus. Really? I mean, yeah, I guess I'm blending.

01:20:45.779 --> 01:20:50.220
Let's just do quick takeaways. First off, let's

01:20:50.220 --> 01:20:56.399
do this. Let's talk about the winner of the score

01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:59.060
prediction challenge. The predictions. The prediction

01:20:59.060 --> 01:21:01.619
challenge. Where can you find those, by the way?

01:21:02.029 --> 01:21:04.250
You can find those on Discord. You can predict

01:21:04.250 --> 01:21:06.829
on Discord. Come to our Discord. I think I'm

01:21:06.829 --> 01:21:11.850
stopping. I used to put them on a few different

01:21:11.850 --> 01:21:15.729
places. Honestly, it's just staying in the Discord

01:21:15.729 --> 01:21:18.329
from now on. It's just staying there. It's just

01:21:18.329 --> 01:21:21.810
too much to kind of put it out in other spots.

01:21:22.130 --> 01:21:25.109
So come to the Discord. It will be there if you

01:21:25.109 --> 01:21:29.260
have participated in the previous week. I will

01:21:29.260 --> 01:21:32.159
send out an email with your score, and that score

01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:34.840
will have a link to the next prediction challenge.

01:21:35.260 --> 01:21:39.039
So check your emails. And I usually send out

01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:44.000
that email the day of the following match. And

01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.319
it's a possibility of scoring five points. It

01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:50.619
is a possibility of scoring five points per match.

01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:55.539
Oh, interesting. If you get the correct score

01:21:55.539 --> 01:21:59.680
for each team. the result whether the sounders

01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:04.100
win lose or draw and predict the over under and

01:22:04.100 --> 01:22:07.359
get the correct score um so did you could try

01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:09.220
and game the system you could try and say oh

01:22:09.220 --> 01:22:11.079
i'm going to predict a sounder's win but then

01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:13.560
in the score i'm going to predict a sounder's

01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:16.500
loss and and so you could try and game it but

01:22:16.500 --> 01:22:17.939
you're not going to get a perfect score did someone

01:22:17.939 --> 01:22:21.220
with a perfect score win at this time no oh interesting

01:22:21.220 --> 01:22:24.539
because i know that i got four four points i

01:22:24.539 --> 01:22:28.359
believe You did. Spoiler alert. I won? Yeah.

01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:34.260
I picked 1 -1. I just missed who scored. I did

01:22:34.260 --> 01:22:39.180
2 -2. I did 2 -2 as well, to be honest. That

01:22:39.180 --> 01:22:42.279
was my prediction. I'm on the errand train that

01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:43.939
I have seen nothing that lets me believe that

01:22:43.939 --> 01:22:47.119
we're going to score two goals a game. I'm all

01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:51.180
hope, man. I'm very hopeful, especially against

01:22:51.180 --> 01:22:56.770
our upcoming matches. A non -Peter Bernese KC

01:22:56.770 --> 01:23:00.310
team? I want like 20 goals against them. That

01:23:00.310 --> 01:23:03.470
could happen. Aren't they terrible? They are

01:23:03.470 --> 01:23:08.810
terrible, but I just... I don't know. The fact

01:23:08.810 --> 01:23:10.689
that Peter Bernese is no longer in the league

01:23:10.689 --> 01:23:12.590
as a coach is one of the best things ever to

01:23:12.590 --> 01:23:17.550
happen to the MLS. I'm surprised we didn't really

01:23:17.550 --> 01:23:21.590
make a... What's the opposite of a stink? But

01:23:21.590 --> 01:23:29.899
I... I could smell about it. I totally forgot

01:23:29.899 --> 01:23:32.340
he's not in the league. We must have talked about

01:23:32.340 --> 01:23:36.640
it when he got fired. I don't think so. He was

01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:40.539
one of the main reasons why the game is not a

01:23:40.539 --> 01:23:43.500
beautiful game in the MLS. The way he played,

01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:46.039
the way he would have his thugs go foul people,

01:23:46.539 --> 01:23:50.699
the way they would injure people was emblematic

01:23:50.699 --> 01:23:52.750
of... everything that was wrong with the MLS

01:23:52.750 --> 01:23:54.829
and why players didn't want to come here. And

01:23:54.829 --> 01:23:57.850
with him gone, there's not that voice constantly

01:23:57.850 --> 01:24:01.869
telling refs to let people play that way, which

01:24:01.869 --> 01:24:03.689
is a good thing. Now, that doesn't mean he doesn't

01:24:03.689 --> 01:24:05.289
still have influence, but he has a different

01:24:05.289 --> 01:24:08.850
influence. And so hopefully the game starts being

01:24:08.850 --> 01:24:12.970
reffed in a manner that benefits teams that actually

01:24:12.970 --> 01:24:15.789
play with finesse and possession instead of teams

01:24:15.789 --> 01:24:18.069
that just come up to you and foul you as hard

01:24:18.069 --> 01:24:22.199
as they can. Yeah, I mean, the Peter Vermees

01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:25.180
coaching tree, and I've said this before, is

01:24:25.180 --> 01:24:29.760
one of the worst things that it's kind of set

01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:32.319
back American soccer and MLS soccer for quite

01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:35.140
some time. So you're talking about the Dom Kinnears

01:24:35.140 --> 01:24:39.000
of the world, the Peter Vermees. I actually kind

01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:40.479
of like Dom Kinnear, but that's just because

01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:42.819
he was such a great coach for San Jose when I

01:24:42.819 --> 01:24:47.020
lived there. But it's the same style of that

01:24:47.020 --> 01:24:52.699
kind of physicality. True. And it was really

01:24:52.699 --> 01:24:56.659
frustrating when you'd have a team that wanted

01:24:56.659 --> 01:25:00.779
to play some free -flowing soccer, and they would

01:25:00.779 --> 01:25:02.659
just dare the ref, like, oh, you're not going

01:25:02.659 --> 01:25:05.079
to call every one of these fouls? You know, and

01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:07.760
just I hate that. I hate that. You remind me

01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:10.239
of Lute Olsen, who used to be the head coach

01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:13.140
of Arizona men's basketball. It was the same

01:25:13.140 --> 01:25:15.439
kind of, he would work the refs and just drive

01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:17.279
me crazy. Did you know that Peter Vermees scored

01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.319
two goals in the 1991 Gold Club, including one

01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:27.859
against Mexico in a 2 -0 win? Wish I hadn't.

01:25:31.579 --> 01:25:35.439
Wow, in the final, the U .S. beat Honduras 4

01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.159
-3 in penalties after a 0 -0 game at the Memorial

01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:42.689
Coliseum. And Dominic Kinnear scored a penalty

01:25:42.689 --> 01:25:48.149
in that. Peter Vermees missed his penalty. Yikes.

01:25:48.890 --> 01:25:53.649
Yeah. I did not realize that Dom Kinnear played

01:25:53.649 --> 01:25:59.930
for the Sounders. What? 1995. Oh, shit. His experience

01:25:59.930 --> 01:26:06.050
is too old. 95, so that was... A -League. A -League

01:26:06.050 --> 01:26:09.880
championship. And then he went. He's a Seattle

01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:12.279
champion, Don Kinnear. Because he played for

01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:14.920
NACAXA. I don't know how to pronounce that. I

01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:18.079
apologize. And then once he left there, he came

01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:21.039
straight to the Sounders. And we won the championship.

01:26:21.140 --> 01:26:22.979
And then the next year, he went over to play

01:26:22.979 --> 01:26:28.060
for the Rapids. And he was on the mutiny, probably

01:26:28.060 --> 01:26:36.779
with Garth. Funny. The web is thick. Yeah. Yeah.

01:26:37.699 --> 01:26:40.039
So are we going to win this week? What's going

01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:43.840
to happen? Against SKC? Mm -hmm. On the road?

01:26:45.500 --> 01:26:50.100
Yeah, I think we're going to win. I do. I think

01:26:50.100 --> 01:26:51.939
we're going to win this game. I do think we're

01:26:51.939 --> 01:26:53.000
going to score two goals. Oh, my bad. Real quick.

01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:55.779
Garth scored, played for Miami Fusion, not...

01:26:55.779 --> 01:27:01.500
I get those teams confused sometimes. I apologize.

01:27:01.779 --> 01:27:04.960
Yeah. You think we're going to win, though? I

01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:08.180
do. I think it's going to be... I was about to

01:27:08.180 --> 01:27:10.500
say 2 -0, but then I remembered it's going to

01:27:10.500 --> 01:27:14.859
be Andy Thomas' goal. And then I realized it's

01:27:14.859 --> 01:27:17.319
probably going to be 1 -0 because we're probably

01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:20.680
going to play a little bit more defensive than

01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:27.140
I would like to see. They have scored five more

01:27:27.140 --> 01:27:29.819
goals than we have, but they have given up 12

01:27:29.819 --> 01:27:34.319
more goals than we have. They're 11th in the

01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:39.000
conference standings, too. They have played the

01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.920
same amount of games as us? No, one more than

01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:47.979
us. So they have 10 losses on the season. There's

01:27:47.979 --> 01:27:50.199
only two teams with more losses in the Western

01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:52.859
Conference, Salt Lake and St. Louis. There's

01:27:52.859 --> 01:27:55.680
no Vermees. There's no Vermees. There's no real

01:27:55.680 --> 01:27:59.399
history with this current... SKC team, this is

01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:03.119
all about us and our identity and figuring the

01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:06.680
shit out and not floating. Do we even know who's,

01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:09.199
is there anyone on the roster even that we think

01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:11.699
about for Kansas City that we think of as a Kansas

01:28:11.699 --> 01:28:14.380
City player? Now that Johnny Russell's gone?

01:28:14.619 --> 01:28:18.680
Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I'm not sure that I even

01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:24.060
know anything. I mean, let's looking at it now.

01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:27.250
Sure words have never been spoken. Oh, you know

01:28:27.250 --> 01:28:29.569
who they have is one of my favorite players,

01:28:29.789 --> 01:28:34.310
Jovalich. How do you say it? Nico? No, Dijon.

01:28:34.430 --> 01:28:37.069
The guy who came over from the LA Galaxy. Wait,

01:28:37.329 --> 01:28:41.069
the basketball or the tennis player? No. I'm

01:28:41.069 --> 01:28:44.109
all confused right now. Yeah. No, no. And then

01:28:44.109 --> 01:28:46.229
they have, I know what I want to say his name,

01:28:46.270 --> 01:28:48.010
Daniel Saloy. That's not how you pronounce his

01:28:48.010 --> 01:28:49.890
last name. They only have one designated player,

01:28:50.090 --> 01:28:54.970
and that is Tommy. Eric Tommy. No, it's Eric

01:28:54.970 --> 01:29:01.170
Tommy. From Germany. Ulm, Germany. Well, in 18

01:29:01.170 --> 01:29:03.510
games this year, Djokovic has 11 goals for them.

01:29:04.970 --> 01:29:06.850
And I don't know how he's not a DP. That's crazy.

01:29:10.050 --> 01:29:11.689
Yeah, what does he consider? They played a $4

01:29:11.689 --> 01:29:14.989
million transfer fee for him. He's an international

01:29:14.989 --> 01:29:18.550
under -22? No, that's why they had to get rid

01:29:18.550 --> 01:29:20.989
of him. That's why LA had to get rid of him is

01:29:20.989 --> 01:29:25.319
because he... came out of that program. Yeah,

01:29:25.340 --> 01:29:28.199
because he's 25 now. Yeah, so they had to...

01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:34.060
I'm on MLSsoccer .com, so... It does classify

01:29:34.060 --> 01:29:39.199
him as a senior. That would make sense, yeah.

01:29:39.260 --> 01:29:42.119
He's a senior roster. Yeah, for sure. Serbian

01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:47.239
national player. He's dangerous. That's a guy

01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:49.399
I'm watching out for. I don't think we get a

01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:51.819
clean sheet here. They yawn more like, damn,

01:29:52.340 --> 01:29:56.039
he dangerous. Yeah, yeah. That was good. Thank

01:29:56.039 --> 01:30:01.319
you. We'll see. I mean, if we're going to pull

01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:05.340
out this win, I would think it was 2 -1. I'm

01:30:05.340 --> 01:30:07.659
going 1 -1. I don't see us scoring two goals

01:30:07.659 --> 01:30:10.899
until it's proven to me. So I'm going 1 -1 draw,

01:30:10.979 --> 01:30:17.319
unfortunately. I want another form. Well, they

01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:20.500
beat Colorado, then they drew against Salt Lake,

01:30:20.619 --> 01:30:24.220
beat Charlotte, lost to Dallas. What order is

01:30:24.220 --> 01:30:26.279
that, though? I'm going in recent to oldest.

01:30:27.539 --> 01:30:30.760
So they've won two of their last three, unbeaten

01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:33.279
in three. How many goals scored? And they beat

01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:36.979
Charlotte, who's good. Yeah. But it was at home.

01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:43.600
It was at home. Yeah, so they've had a pretty...

01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:47.699
great run here where they only have what, two

01:30:47.699 --> 01:30:54.279
losses in their last since May. A lot of draws.

01:30:54.619 --> 01:30:59.020
So they might be on the up. Yeah, they've got

01:30:59.020 --> 01:31:05.199
two losses in their last nine. But we'll see.

01:31:05.340 --> 01:31:10.479
I think we're going to play an inspired match.

01:31:10.779 --> 01:31:14.720
That'd be great. Yeah, I would hope so. There's

01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:22.319
enough Kindle for that, right? You want to be

01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:26.680
on the field, make something happen. So let's

01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:30.000
see it happen. Connect, get, figure out what

01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.279
synapses need to be fired in the right order,

01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:36.600
who you need to connect with. But I want to start

01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:39.770
seeing some just cohesion. just so I can start

01:31:39.770 --> 01:31:41.810
identifying what this team is other than just

01:31:41.810 --> 01:31:46.689
a possession team that has good depth, that gets

01:31:46.689 --> 01:31:49.210
decent results. Like, okay, we're productive.

01:31:49.510 --> 01:31:52.409
That's great. I want to be excited. I want to

01:31:52.409 --> 01:31:55.310
be excited again. You were watching on TV who

01:31:55.310 --> 01:31:59.529
was primarily at fault for the Columbus goal.

01:32:00.270 --> 01:32:02.109
People around me thought it was Nuhu, but I did

01:32:02.109 --> 01:32:04.229
not see enough on who was supposed to be covering

01:32:04.229 --> 01:32:07.090
the man to know that for sure. I kind of want

01:32:07.090 --> 01:32:13.199
to rewatch it. To be honest with you. It felt...

01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:18.600
It honestly just felt like one of the... I'm

01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:21.899
trying to find it real quick again. Which is

01:32:21.899 --> 01:32:25.779
a waste of time. They sliced us off at that passing

01:32:25.779 --> 01:32:28.100
there. It was just really well done. I mean,

01:32:28.100 --> 01:32:29.720
that's something we've seen teams eat us alive

01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:35.199
with this year, unfortunately. Yeah. But, like,

01:32:35.220 --> 01:32:40.300
we were... We were pressing. Unfortunately, Nagby

01:32:40.300 --> 01:32:44.979
makes a great move to get around Christian. And

01:32:44.979 --> 01:32:49.880
when he did that, he unleashes a pass to break

01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:55.319
the lanes. And I think if anything, Jackson Reagan

01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:59.359
was in this weird spot where the pass came across

01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:04.500
where if he tried to clear it, he's running dangerously

01:33:04.500 --> 01:33:07.359
into own goal territory. So he had to let it

01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:12.350
go. and knew who couldn't get back from his spot

01:33:12.350 --> 01:33:15.170
in time. But that doesn't mean it's necessarily

01:33:15.170 --> 01:33:19.250
new. No, that's exactly right. Anytime we're

01:33:19.250 --> 01:33:22.590
sprinting backwards, it's hard to really point

01:33:22.590 --> 01:33:26.510
fault at anyone other than they found the lines.

01:33:26.970 --> 01:33:31.489
I feel like it's like who started it. This started

01:33:31.489 --> 01:33:35.859
in their third and went all the way back. Sure.

01:33:35.899 --> 01:33:37.720
And kind of dissected through everybody. But

01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:39.520
at times, we've seen giveaways. Two great passes.

01:33:39.899 --> 01:33:42.079
Yeah, and times we've seen giveaways on our own

01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:44.119
side that have led to goals just because of incredible

01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:48.039
passes down the field. And that can be a great

01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:50.180
play by them, or it can be one of our players

01:33:50.180 --> 01:33:54.340
misplaying it, not getting back. You know, there's

01:33:54.340 --> 01:33:56.500
lots of reasons. And without knowing the communication

01:33:56.500 --> 01:33:58.779
that was going on between Fry and his defenders,

01:33:59.020 --> 01:34:01.479
that's really hard for us to tell. Well, with

01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:04.239
the running backwards, Kalani... got himself

01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:07.399
a little bit out of position. One, though, this

01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:11.939
goal was set up by a beautiful secondary assist

01:34:11.939 --> 01:34:16.579
from Nagby. It was just, he did what he's done

01:34:16.579 --> 01:34:21.239
all his career. Against us. I mean, he does it

01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:23.680
against everyone. This is why he's in the league

01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:30.079
so long. And Jackson, it basically became a...

01:34:32.590 --> 01:34:37.130
You know, the winger had two passes to pick from.

01:34:37.189 --> 01:34:40.729
Jackson had to decide which one to go for. And,

01:34:40.970 --> 01:34:43.010
yeah, it's just really well done by Columbus.

01:34:43.989 --> 01:34:49.109
It's more about their quality on the offensive

01:34:49.109 --> 01:34:52.970
break there than, oh, well, this is the defensive

01:34:52.970 --> 01:34:55.710
miscue that we did. Right, because they put Reagan

01:34:55.710 --> 01:34:57.909
in a place where he was damned if he did, damned

01:34:57.909 --> 01:35:01.720
if he didn't. Sometimes it goes the other. Sometimes

01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:05.239
everyone can seize their lane, their passing

01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:07.920
lanes, and once that happens, you just see a

01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:11.899
boom. That goal started, it was maybe four seconds,

01:35:12.020 --> 01:35:17.039
five seconds? I mean, it was three passes, but

01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:20.640
it was when Nagby made a move against Christian

01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:27.140
in the middle of Columbus's half and then takes

01:35:27.140 --> 01:35:32.170
two steps forward. makes a really nice... Yeah,

01:35:32.210 --> 01:35:34.850
it was just a 1 -2, bang -bang play. Like, it

01:35:34.850 --> 01:35:37.170
was all transition. It's just really frustrating,

01:35:37.369 --> 01:35:43.229
but... I think the frustrating part is that I

01:35:43.229 --> 01:35:45.970
don't know if we necessarily go for those kind

01:35:45.970 --> 01:35:49.069
of transition goals as much. It seems like if

01:35:49.069 --> 01:35:51.789
we don't see the perfect pass, we pull it back.

01:35:51.829 --> 01:35:55.029
And we have players that can do that. Danny Leyva

01:35:55.029 --> 01:35:57.789
can do that. We've seen him do that multiple

01:35:57.789 --> 01:36:01.800
times. Obed... has done it. But Leyva, I think,

01:36:01.819 --> 01:36:03.359
is one of the best players on our team at those.

01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:07.779
He's just not getting minutes right now. And

01:36:07.779 --> 01:36:09.659
that's also not the style we play. We play through

01:36:09.659 --> 01:36:12.989
the wings. Yeah. And our possession and kind

01:36:12.989 --> 01:36:15.909
of the building up, and so not complaining about

01:36:15.909 --> 01:36:18.250
that. I do think that it would be nice if we

01:36:18.250 --> 01:36:20.050
mixed it up a little bit and tried those things,

01:36:20.130 --> 01:36:22.449
though, at times if things aren't working. I

01:36:22.449 --> 01:36:26.229
think we do with Jordan Morris. It's that over

01:36:26.229 --> 01:36:28.630
-the -top ball and let him use his speed. Sure,

01:36:28.670 --> 01:36:30.470
we did it once last game, though. We've got to

01:36:30.470 --> 01:36:33.369
try it more than that. I mean, let's talk about

01:36:33.369 --> 01:36:37.409
the goal we did score. Dude, fantastic. I mean,

01:36:37.449 --> 01:36:42.520
incredible. I mean, was it the secondary assist?

01:36:42.619 --> 01:36:44.859
Was that Rusnak who got that over to Kalani?

01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:47.340
Yeah, I think he pulled it down on the right

01:36:47.340 --> 01:36:49.979
side. Incredible for him to get it to Kalani,

01:36:50.020 --> 01:36:51.739
who then get it through to Rothrock. I mean,

01:36:51.779 --> 01:36:55.000
across the board, when I saw the replay, because

01:36:55.000 --> 01:36:57.000
I was in the bathroom when it happened, it was

01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.680
fantastic. Nicholas, where were you when it happened?

01:37:00.060 --> 01:37:02.220
I was in the bathroom. By the way, it was Alex

01:37:02.220 --> 01:37:07.189
that passed it to Kalani. Okay. It was? Yeah,

01:37:07.270 --> 01:37:10.810
Alex did like that over the top from the back.

01:37:10.869 --> 01:37:14.130
It was kind of similar where it really was similar

01:37:14.130 --> 01:37:16.810
to the Columbus goal where it was kind of three

01:37:16.810 --> 01:37:21.069
passes and in. So that was an example of us doing

01:37:21.069 --> 01:37:23.189
to them what they did to us. And that's not a

01:37:23.189 --> 01:37:26.369
goal you see us score very often. You see us

01:37:26.369 --> 01:37:29.149
get balls through on the second pass there that

01:37:29.149 --> 01:37:30.850
went through, but that first pass is something

01:37:30.850 --> 01:37:36.699
that I think we don't see a lot of. I know he

01:37:36.699 --> 01:37:39.479
got the red card. I do think it was a bullshit

01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:42.359
second yellow, like I said. Guy was already going

01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:46.180
down. He ran directly into Kalani. Kalani, I

01:37:46.180 --> 01:37:47.779
think, has earned the starting job at right back

01:37:47.779 --> 01:37:51.319
at this point. I mean, it's really interesting.

01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:53.800
You don't assist someone who assists like you

01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:57.920
don't. Well, it's really interesting to see Kalani

01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:02.050
on that assist watching him. cut to the inside

01:38:02.050 --> 01:38:05.149
to the top of the box from his position just

01:38:05.149 --> 01:38:09.649
really yeah his low center of gravity his his

01:38:09.649 --> 01:38:12.869
agility and he's jacked by the way yeah he is

01:38:12.869 --> 01:38:16.130
but just the way he was a well of course by the

01:38:16.130 --> 01:38:18.649
fact he could do that flip he did uh was it last

01:38:18.649 --> 01:38:24.930
year yeah but i mean the the way he ran he opened

01:38:24.930 --> 01:38:27.850
up that lane for rothrock but through his run

01:38:28.409 --> 01:38:32.029
by the way burning nagby so nagby nagby had had

01:38:32.029 --> 01:38:35.829
kind of responsibility on both goals i know you're

01:38:35.829 --> 01:38:37.750
excited nicholas but back off that mic because

01:38:37.750 --> 01:38:40.489
you're in the red oh i get really in the red

01:38:40.489 --> 01:38:47.189
when i talk about nagby fucking up man yeah i

01:38:47.189 --> 01:38:50.229
mean fantastic goal we need to see more of that

01:38:50.229 --> 01:38:53.170
creativity throughout the game uh i don't know

01:38:53.170 --> 01:38:56.529
what's stopping us from seeing it uh I don't

01:38:56.529 --> 01:38:59.590
know if we need moments of brilliance, but Rusnak

01:38:59.590 --> 01:39:01.869
would have those in the past, right? We've seen

01:39:01.869 --> 01:39:08.069
him have those passes. Is it something on the

01:39:08.069 --> 01:39:12.550
way? I wonder if sometimes our players' talents

01:39:12.550 --> 01:39:14.869
don't match the style we play. I don't know if

01:39:14.869 --> 01:39:17.930
that's true or not, but sometimes it feels that

01:39:17.930 --> 01:39:19.810
way because when we switch it up a little bit,

01:39:19.829 --> 01:39:22.680
we... have success but maybe that's because we're

01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:24.399
just switching it up so teams aren't expecting

01:39:24.399 --> 01:39:26.899
us to play that way so that's why this sex is

01:39:26.899 --> 01:39:28.920
happening it's like when a running back does

01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:30.920
a lot of like two yard runs in the first half

01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:33.039
but because of the way he's cutting this is what

01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:35.159
sean alexander always did it would open up big

01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:37.060
holes later and that's why he was dominating

01:39:37.060 --> 01:39:41.420
as the defensive line got tired uh that i don't

01:39:41.420 --> 01:39:47.000
know it seems like when we're trying to follow

01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:51.699
the set list It's just not quite there. But if

01:39:51.699 --> 01:39:55.960
we're just jamming, it's there. I feel like that

01:39:55.960 --> 01:40:01.140
goal, it was similar to Columbus. It was also

01:40:01.140 --> 01:40:03.560
in reaction to Columbus. That only had happened

01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:08.159
10 or 15 minutes apart, right? Both in the first

01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:11.000
half. Let's equalize before halftime. Yeah, it

01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:12.399
was like, how cool was the second half? It was

01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:14.399
the first half because that's why I was in the

01:40:14.399 --> 01:40:20.770
restroom. I was on my way to see Nicholas. You're

01:40:20.770 --> 01:40:22.270
on the way to see me in the bathroom? In the

01:40:22.270 --> 01:40:27.170
restroom, huh? No. Roma needed to go to the bathroom.

01:40:27.409 --> 01:40:32.930
I was visiting a friend near Nicholas, and then

01:40:32.930 --> 01:40:38.409
I brought Roma some Dippin' Dots. That's Gracie's

01:40:38.409 --> 01:40:40.550
go -to every time I bring her to a game. I'm

01:40:40.550 --> 01:40:42.949
just very excited to learn that Rainbow Ice Dippin'

01:40:42.970 --> 01:40:45.310
Dots are vegan. I actually had some for the first

01:40:45.310 --> 01:40:48.029
time in like... I don't know. When did I turn

01:40:48.029 --> 01:40:53.130
vegan? 14 years ago. You know, Dippin' Dots,

01:40:53.130 --> 01:40:55.510
still the ice cream of the future. Space ice

01:40:55.510 --> 01:41:02.210
cream. Anyway, yeah. Cool. Well, I feel better

01:41:02.210 --> 01:41:05.430
now that we talked about that goal. Should I

01:41:05.430 --> 01:41:08.210
say we're going to win 2 -1? I think we're going

01:41:08.210 --> 01:41:12.390
to win 2 -1. Do you know? Yeah. Well, there you

01:41:12.390 --> 01:41:17.340
go. It's got to be fair. I can't believe I'm

01:41:17.340 --> 01:41:20.479
doing a loss prediction. I don't normally do

01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:23.899
that. But I do think we're going to lose. You

01:41:23.899 --> 01:41:26.260
think we're going to lose? 1 -2. 1 -2? Is that

01:41:26.260 --> 01:41:32.060
what you said? Yep. Okay. Kansas City has not

01:41:32.060 --> 01:41:33.500
always been the nicest place for us to play.

01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:37.979
They like to cheat. They got Ziggy fired. Referees

01:41:37.979 --> 01:41:41.340
like to cheat on their behalf. One time Arlo

01:41:41.340 --> 01:41:44.579
screamed, get the Mexican off the field during

01:41:44.579 --> 01:41:47.640
a game. One of the players got a red card and

01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:50.560
he was a Mexican national player that he was

01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:52.659
telling him to leave. But because the British

01:41:52.659 --> 01:41:54.640
speak differently than we do, he didn't maybe

01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:58.699
understand culturally why it matters to say the

01:41:58.699 --> 01:42:03.640
Mexican national off the field. That is a moment

01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:07.039
I will never forget in Sounders history. Arlo

01:42:07.039 --> 01:42:09.520
White. Yeah. When he was an announcer. Get the

01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:13.100
Mexican off the field. Well, I mean, I guess

01:42:13.100 --> 01:42:21.210
that's better than. Duh. No. I don't think you

01:42:21.210 --> 01:42:24.069
should say... I'm trying to remember what Mark

01:42:24.069 --> 01:42:28.710
Birch... I was thinking Mark Birch. Yeah, when

01:42:28.710 --> 01:42:35.050
he slurred. Yeah. Yeah, so, okay. So we have

01:42:35.050 --> 01:42:38.170
a couple two -to -ones and then a one -to -two.

01:42:39.170 --> 01:42:41.510
We will find out. And who knows? Maybe we will

01:42:41.510 --> 01:42:47.859
differently day of. The shadow knows. Hey, you

01:42:47.859 --> 01:42:50.279
know what? If we lose this match, if my prediction

01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:53.539
is correct, maybe... Wait, are we trying to send

01:42:53.539 --> 01:42:55.939
off right now? I think we're getting there. I

01:42:55.939 --> 01:42:59.979
think we're getting there. I think we need a

01:42:59.979 --> 01:43:05.239
new forward. And his name is Nate Jaqua. Nate

01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:11.210
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