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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say he's cheating. Hello, hello, hello.

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Welcome to Sounders Scuttlebutt. I'm Aaron Lingley,

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and as always, joined by your Alliance Council

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Secretary, Cameron Collins. Hey. And Alliance

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Council extraordinaire and Seattle soccer community

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guru, Nicholas Biela. What's up, gentlemen? Why,

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hello there. Good to hear your voice. Good to

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see your face. Yeah, I missed the last one. Thank

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you guys for doing that. Yeah, but here I am,

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excited to talk. I basically haven't been able

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to talk about Club World Cup with either of you

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on or off mic. And yeah, I want to talk about

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that. You guys were there. Obviously, I've been

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watching down here from San Diego. And so, yeah,

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let's get to it. But first, let's drink some

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beverages. That sounds like a great idea. It's

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really hot here. Yeah. I have to unzip my...

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Cooler. Your pants? That was what the dramatic

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pause was for. So I only have one beverage today.

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Well, an alcoholic beverage. It's the last of

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the White Claws. Because it's hot down here,

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too. More than hot, it was humid today. Like,

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85 is hot for Seattle, but the humidity made

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it not fun. It's not the heat that gets you.

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It's the humidity. Okay. It was actually pretty

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humid for down here, which normally doesn't get

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humid at all. It was roasting cotton suit right

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on the coast. I guess it could be worse, but

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anyway, so What do you want to get into first?

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Should we talk Club World Cup? Yeah. Sounders

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just won against Austin 2 -0. We'll obviously

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get to that. It's been a minute since we've all

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talked. Any other news out there? Well, why don't

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we start with a little bit of, I mean, we got

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a lot to kind of cover today. It might be more.

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We do. We do. A lot of things have happened since

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our last call. We've had two more Club World

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Cup games. We've had a league game. we've watched

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all that stuff. I want to talk about what's going

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on in the club world cup outside of, uh, the

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Sounders games. The Sounders games were actually

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the worst part of the club world cup. And I wasn't

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even present. So, yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna

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lie. I had a great time. Oh no, it was great,

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but I enjoyed the non Sounders games so much

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more. Um, but man city went down today. So did

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inter. Yep. To Flamengo, Man City went down to

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Al -Hilal for three. Fluminense. What? Oh, Fluminense,

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that's right. Flamengo, unfortunately, lost yesterday.

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Yeah, they lost to Bayern. But there's this narrative

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around the Club World Cup that I keep seeing

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from people who have had a bad opinion from the

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beginning of it, who are just saying, like, this

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is a farce, this entire tournament. And I'm like...

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You haven't watched the game. No one's taking

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it seriously. I'm like, you don't think those

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Inter Milan players were taking that seriously?

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Did you watch how upset they were when they lost?

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Did you see how excited, not just Fluminense,

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but the woman they showed in the crowd who was

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just bawling when they scored the second goal

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to win? This has been an incredible tournament.

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And we saw a fight that broke out. at lemon field

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oh this was great yeah there's years in the making

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yeah it started at the world cup yeah at the

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world cup yeah so uh the real world cup so it's

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been like wait wait the real world cup was that

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with like puck and tech yes and uh yes and remember

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they had to kick off david because he slapped

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that lady Yeah, that's right. So it was like

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Seattle versus Hawaii versus New York versus

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San Francisco. God, you guys and you're just

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obscure. That is not obscure to anyone who is

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our age. The real world. What was it? The MTV

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World. The real world. Real world New York. I

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mean, those were some of the biggest shows on

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TV. The Puck was in the Seattle one. The real

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world. No, Puck was San Francisco. San Francisco.

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He was on the second season. Who was the guy

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that slapped the chick out? On the waterfront.

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Oh, here? Yeah. I remember I used to listen.

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I was home. The 90s. It was summer 99 when they

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were here because I was home and I would listen

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to their radio show without realizing that they

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were from the real world. And then later when

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they actually aired it, they would do that. That

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was the one summer I came home. But yeah, Club

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World Cup has been tremendous. I mean, people

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are like, oh, no one's attending. It's like,

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well, A. Every single game in Seattle but one

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had 50 ,000. Ironically, the one game that didn't

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was one of the top energized matches. Yeah. You

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know, the Red Diamonds versus River Plate. Yep.

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Yeah. Announced crowd of like 11 ,000, but it

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sounded like 30 ,000 to 40 ,000. Yeah. And the

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thing is, sure, it's a money. Like, we don't

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like that the players aren't getting paid. The

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whole problem with this tournament was they...

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Update on that. Yeah, yeah. The whole problem

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was that the prices were too much to begin with.

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FIFA overshot it and didn't properly advertise

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this tournament. And this is completely on FIFA.

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If they had made it reasonably priced and hyped

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it up like one would the World Cup, these games

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would have all been filled. I mean, look at the

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USA. Who did USA play in the last group stage

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game of Gold Cup? Gold Cup. I mean, that game

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was in Nashville or Austin. Either way. soccer

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city and it was completely empty because tickets

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were going for 150 to 200 bucks like of course

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no one's paying 200 to go see the c team of the

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usa when there's other stuff going on like uh

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it's ridiculous um and yeah thankfully usa squeaked

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by costa rica on penalties uh matt freeze is

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has made himself the permanent starter moving

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forward uh absolutely incredible on penalties

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so uh but man this club world cup has been fantastic

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yeah i mean i i went to all six games roma went

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to five of the six um during the atletico match

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there was a guy behind me from buenos aires and

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i gave him one of my scarves and we just kind

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of connected and Like you flew up from Buenos

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Aires? Yeah. Okay, cool. So shout out to Gonzalo.

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We became friends. We started going to all the

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games together. And then we did a nice jersey

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swap. So I've got some. I mean, you guys hooked

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up? Oh, yeah. That's what jersey swap means.

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I mean, I got some fun stuff here. That's pretty

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cool. Magenta and maroon jersey with the matching

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shorts. Oh, full kit. St. Louis shorts. Oh my

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god, is that another? Warm up top maybe? No,

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that's another one of their home jerseys and

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then their classic jersey as well. How many jerseys

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is... So he gave you three jerseys. Three jerseys

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and a pair of shorts, yeah. And then red diamonds

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I got. And a scarf. Yeah, a scarf. That's cool.

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A scarf and red diamonds. And you gave him a

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jersey. No, I gave him a scarf and then I basically

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gave him a selection of, I brought a whole bunch

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of stuff. And he chose, we started choosing one

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-to -one, one -to -one. So he took like a pair

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of training pants. Space Needle jersey from the

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2014 season. You know, some other stuff, some

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cool stuff. What's interesting is they do not

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seem to wear scarves in those Argentinian teams.

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So there was no, A, ability for us to exchange

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scarves, switch scarves with them. But then B,

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like when you asked him if he wanted scarves,

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he was like, yeah, but do you have t -shirts?

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Yeah. Like, yes, I do. Like, no, really, Gonzalo.

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But no, it was a great time. As a matter of fact,

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the River -Inter game was a little crazy because

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River ended up losing 2 -0. There was the fight

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between Hakuna and Dumfries at the end where

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they basically raced each other to the locker

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room to try and get... into a brawl into the

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tunnel and like the rest of the team were like

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chasing them to try and hold them back it was

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it was crazy um there's a guy in my section who

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got kicked out uh because well first when when

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the dog so red card came in uh on river plate

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for inter uh he threw his cup of beer all over

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everyone in front of him like straight straight

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up in the air and then later when they scored

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their first goal he spit up in the air and spit

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on everyone And then his girlfriend ended up

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leaving because she was so annoyed with him.

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And then eventually the people next to him complained.

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And then when he was getting kicked out, someone

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was so angry at him that they threw a beer at

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his head and then they got kicked out too. But

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it was interesting because my section was a bunch.

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I mean, I was sitting above the Inter fans. They

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were where the River Plate was sitting in the

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previous match, but there was a ton of River

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Plate fans, but they weren't down below where

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all the actual River fans were. These were South

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American fans rooting for River. So these were

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like, we're going to root for the South American

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team over the team from Europe. And so there

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was people from, I mean, all over South America,

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Central America. So I saw Honduras, I saw Guatemala,

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I saw Colombia. I saw, I mean, and they were

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all rooting for Inter. I mean, sorry, for River.

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So it was very interesting and very dramatic,

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and partially dramatic because there was a bunch

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of Italians walking around being like, bippity

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boppity, bippity boppity. Just because you have

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a mustache, Peter, doesn't mean you can speak

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Italian. Yeah, but that is how it sounds. By

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the way, I might have an answer on the scarf

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thing. Oh, yeah? Yeah, tell us. Bara brava culture.

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Argentine fan culture, especially among the ultras

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groups known as Baras Bravas, emphasizes raw

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passion, singing, jumping, and waving flags over

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aesthetic accessories like scarves. Instead of

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scarves, fans show loyalty with shirts, flags,

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tattoos, or massive banners, or trapos. In fact,

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scarves might be seen as too tame or European

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for certain sections of hardcore fans. I mean,

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they definitely handed out thousands of flags.

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Yeah. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, the games were

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all super fun. I mean, I think the PSG game was

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the most fun Sounders -wise because that game

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was money in the bank, right? The other two,

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we felt like we could have maybe tied or won.

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And the PSG match was like, I'm just going to

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enjoy it. Yeah, just watch them play. I mean,

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it seemed like they played more freely in that

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one. I mean, they played hard in the other ones,

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and I was going to get to that later, I guess.

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I wasn't disappointed overall with the performances.

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We were definitely in over our hands. I agree,

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although I think we knew who cost us the first

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game. We could have got out of there with a point.

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Yeah, but you guys talked about that one. Yeah,

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but also, you know, I think the, I mean, let's

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not kid ourselves. The PSG game was not. great.

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The possession was bad. The PSG dominated as

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they should have. That one graphic that we always

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look at, how many times they enter, and the one

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side was like 46. And ours was like 7. I just

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think the different style of lineup in that one.

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But look what they did against Miami. Oh, no.

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I mean, the reality, and let's not kid ourselves,

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PSG had to put out their first choice lineup

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against us because they weren't guaranteed advancement

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at that point. Yeah, they had to win. And so

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overall, I think that the tournament was a big

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success once the game started from the fan perspective.

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And from the Sounders player perspective, fuck

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FIFA. But yeah, it was definitely a good warm

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-up for next year and much better than the Confederations

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Cup ever could have been. Yeah. Although I do

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like the Confederations Cup in general because

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that was the one time the USA was ranked fourth

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in the world. Yeah, right after the beating in

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Brazil. So what do you think this all did for

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the club? For Sounders? Experience -wise, yeah.

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Well, one, I think that it gave the club validation

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that they're on the right path with the talent

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they have on the team. I think it gave them a

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level of reward. for their success over the last

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few years. But I think it also gave the club

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evidence that this is not enough. And so the

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real question is going to be what lessons will

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be learned from this. and how will we go forward?

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What do you think, Cameron? I mean, I think they

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definitely, when the Scuttlebutt Ultras episode

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comes out, this is something we talked about

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at length on there, so I won't go too far into

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it, but I think we saw them play much more intensely

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because they had to. there's times where in MLS

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play you can just turn off and it won't matter.

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And you can't do that against these teams. And

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I think we saw that translate into the Austin

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match where they were much more intense than

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they would be usually in MLS play. And so I think

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they learned some lessons there. I think there

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was players that had a chance to shine. I mean,

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if you told me Christian Roldan was going to

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shine, I wouldn't have been surprised. But, you

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know, you would have wanted someone like Obed

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to shine. And Obed played really well, but he

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also... hadn't been playing well up to it, so

00:16:29.029 --> 00:16:30.690
I don't think the hype was there going into it.

00:16:30.750 --> 00:16:33.409
You saw Alex have a couple tremendous matches.

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So I think you had a chance to get some of these

00:16:38.190 --> 00:16:42.830
players more known throughout the world, and

00:16:42.830 --> 00:16:45.669
that may not benefit them in terms of, like,

00:16:45.669 --> 00:16:47.049
Christian's not going to go to Europe anymore,

00:16:47.190 --> 00:16:48.750
right? He's of the age where that won't happen.

00:16:48.750 --> 00:16:51.750
No, but he might play himself back into the national

00:16:51.750 --> 00:16:53.610
team. Which would be nice, although I don't think

00:16:53.610 --> 00:16:57.029
so because of his position. uh at center defensive

00:16:57.029 --> 00:17:01.389
mid he is eighth or ninth in the uh depth chart

00:17:01.389 --> 00:17:04.130
so the likelihood of that happening unless he

00:17:04.130 --> 00:17:06.269
moves back to right mid is slim to none in my

00:17:06.269 --> 00:17:09.849
opinion but uh he is he should be there based

00:17:09.849 --> 00:17:12.509
on what we're seeing from the usa where they

00:17:12.509 --> 00:17:14.849
need a leader like him he could never play a

00:17:14.849 --> 00:17:17.740
minute and he would benefit the u .s national

00:17:17.740 --> 00:17:20.200
team i mean that's exactly what his role in the

00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.119
last world cup he didn't play a minute and he

00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:25.019
benefited the national team in the world cup

00:17:25.019 --> 00:17:28.200
he was one of the few players that didn't get

00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:31.019
any time yeah but he doesn't need it because

00:17:31.019 --> 00:17:33.359
of who he is and what he can do for the other

00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:38.420
players he belongs there uh i do think uh it

00:17:38.420 --> 00:17:41.059
upped the sounders brand even though we did not

00:17:41.059 --> 00:17:44.619
advance the fact that we showed up and played

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against these teams in a way that a lot that

00:17:46.940 --> 00:17:49.180
you know the other mls teams did not i mean miami

00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:51.279
had a couple but their group ended up not being

00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:54.359
as difficult as expected based on porto just

00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:57.640
kind of shitting the bed even though they i think

00:17:57.640 --> 00:17:59.880
did they advance they might they might have no

00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:04.440
but no they did yeah yeah so i mean the reality

00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:11.460
the reality is uh um anyone who watches soccer

00:18:11.460 --> 00:18:14.579
regularly who who truly is being honest with

00:18:14.579 --> 00:18:18.500
themselves recognizes that the sounders losing

00:18:18.500 --> 00:18:22.619
three games doesn't have much to do with how

00:18:22.619 --> 00:18:24.960
they played given the group that they were in

00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:29.240
yeah right totally and and i think our one chance

00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:30.900
with points was in the first game i think if

00:18:30.900 --> 00:18:32.799
we had played botafogo in the third game maybe

00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:35.660
we get points out of that yeah especially the

00:18:35.660 --> 00:18:37.900
way botafogo played down the stretch i mean they

00:18:38.700 --> 00:18:40.900
They no longer looked like a champion. They looked

00:18:40.900 --> 00:18:45.440
like the fourth place team in Brazil. And, I

00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.640
mean, they didn't show up in their match versus

00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:53.599
Palmeiras until 85th, 86th minute. Their defense

00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:55.440
was fine, but they didn't even have a decent

00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:57.380
shot on goal until the end of that match. And

00:18:57.380 --> 00:19:00.339
this is a team that was so dangerous earlier

00:19:00.339 --> 00:19:03.579
in the tournament. And maybe that's... They have

00:19:03.579 --> 00:19:05.819
three players that are leaving. They're probably

00:19:05.819 --> 00:19:07.900
going to drop further down the table in Brazil

00:19:07.900 --> 00:19:09.619
because they just lost their three best players.

00:19:09.819 --> 00:19:13.299
But yeah, it'll be interesting to see. I think

00:19:13.299 --> 00:19:16.720
this tournament was a rousing success overall,

00:19:16.859 --> 00:19:19.140
and it's not even done. I mean, Man City getting

00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:20.519
knocked out, they were the odds -on favorite

00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:23.859
to win. Vegas had them as the first. So the fact

00:19:23.859 --> 00:19:26.799
that they're out now is huge. And I think it

00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.799
makes PSG the favorites moving forward. I mean,

00:19:29.819 --> 00:19:32.160
maybe Bayern, but they haven't been particularly,

00:19:32.420 --> 00:19:37.319
you know. Didn't they lose to someone that third

00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:44.180
game day? I'm not entirely sure at this point,

00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.460
but I think the reality is that we may not find

00:19:47.460 --> 00:19:50.460
an all -European final. We may get that. Who

00:19:50.460 --> 00:19:53.460
knows? We rarely had an all -European final in

00:19:53.460 --> 00:19:55.319
this. I mean, we never had an all -European final

00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:58.619
because it was usually a Brazilian team. uh that

00:19:58.619 --> 00:20:02.319
was in there but uh i mean brazil versus england

00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:07.180
often but uh yeah i think it's been an exciting

00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:09.420
tournament and while i'm not watching every match

00:20:09.420 --> 00:20:11.359
i'm definitely following every match and watching

00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.420
the highlights and keeping up on it yeah and

00:20:14.420 --> 00:20:17.099
right now we're down to we've got six of the

00:20:17.099 --> 00:20:21.599
final eight and so palmaris will be playing chelsea

00:20:23.370 --> 00:20:26.589
Fluminense will be playing El Halal, so one non

00:20:26.589 --> 00:20:28.829
-European team is guaranteed to go into the Final

00:20:28.829 --> 00:20:34.589
Four. Then you have PSG and Bayern Munich. And

00:20:34.589 --> 00:20:37.329
then what's to be determined will be tomorrow

00:20:37.329 --> 00:20:42.250
where Real Madrid will play Juventus and Dortmund

00:20:42.250 --> 00:20:47.250
will play Monterey. I usually root against Monterey,

00:20:47.309 --> 00:20:50.490
but this might be an instance. But I like Dortmund.

00:20:50.690 --> 00:20:54.680
I like Dortmund. They also have completely derailed

00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.240
Gio Reyna's career. Or maybe he has. Maybe he's

00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:58.619
a dick, and that's why he's not getting minutes.

00:20:59.339 --> 00:21:06.460
The evidence can go either way. Yeah. But the

00:21:06.460 --> 00:21:11.539
bottom line is that we're seeing some good diversity

00:21:11.539 --> 00:21:14.400
within there. So I'm very, very pleased with

00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:19.410
that. I'm very pleased with that. LAFC? They

00:21:19.410 --> 00:21:21.849
didn't have a great tournament. First team out.

00:21:22.470 --> 00:21:26.490
Yeah. But they did get a result in that final

00:21:26.490 --> 00:21:29.009
game, which was a dead rubber game where the

00:21:29.009 --> 00:21:32.069
result didn't matter. So they got some extra

00:21:32.069 --> 00:21:35.549
money there. Obviously, Miami got some big money

00:21:35.549 --> 00:21:40.990
for making the round of 16. It's hard not to

00:21:40.990 --> 00:21:46.789
feel a little jealous. We ain't got shit. Nothing.

00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:53.059
No, but, I mean, I'm okay. I'm okay with how

00:21:53.059 --> 00:21:57.980
that's played out. I'm okay with how that's played

00:21:57.980 --> 00:22:03.119
out. It's definitely clear that... The only teams

00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:06.460
that advance got any, like, a little bit of a

00:22:06.460 --> 00:22:09.200
buyout, a payout. No, so how it worked was everyone

00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.400
got $9 .8 million or whatever it was to start,

00:22:12.500 --> 00:22:14.839
or at least to... conca calf teams got nine i

00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.880
think we got more than the other two mls teams

00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:19.940
based on the money the money we were told we

00:22:19.940 --> 00:22:22.599
got and then the totals because there was 25

00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:26.400
million paid out to the mls or 20 was it 25 whatever

00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:28.920
it was we and we had nine we had more they only

00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:32.259
had eight each i think i don't think so based

00:22:32.259 --> 00:22:34.019
on the numbers that we saw that was the case

00:22:34.019 --> 00:22:37.980
maybe they reported wrong but the other side

00:22:37.980 --> 00:22:41.259
of that is that you got X amount of million for

00:22:41.259 --> 00:22:44.779
a draw, X amount of million for a win, X amount

00:22:44.779 --> 00:22:48.660
of million for advancing to each stage of the

00:22:48.660 --> 00:22:52.279
tournament. So the payouts get bigger and bigger

00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.380
as you advance further. So Miami is going to

00:22:56.380 --> 00:23:00.109
be clearing north of $20 million. I did see a

00:23:00.109 --> 00:23:03.829
report today, I didn't see in depth, but I did

00:23:03.829 --> 00:23:08.609
see a tweet or a yeet or whatever Blue Sky's

00:23:08.609 --> 00:23:13.309
version is called, where it sounds like there's

00:23:13.309 --> 00:23:19.009
been an agreement reached with players, with

00:23:19.009 --> 00:23:23.049
the Sounders players, I presume the MLSPA and

00:23:23.049 --> 00:23:32.380
MLS, where they have bumped. their payout. Okay.

00:23:33.660 --> 00:23:38.079
So we got $10 million. No, no, that's incorrect.

00:23:39.259 --> 00:23:42.400
Sounders got $9 million, meaning the payout to

00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:45.559
the players would grow. Yeah, because the Sounders

00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:49.539
players were capped. All MLS teams, their players

00:23:49.539 --> 00:23:52.359
were capped at $1 million, no matter how much

00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.339
money was earned. And I believe that has been...

00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:03.339
that has been agreed to in principle, the adjustment

00:24:03.339 --> 00:24:10.920
of that. Okay. Yeah. What else have we got? We

00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.180
got any non -World Cup? Well, do you have any

00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:15.240
final thoughts on the Club World Cup? I feel

00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:17.279
like we're going to start moving away from that.

00:24:17.539 --> 00:24:20.240
Yeah, no, it was fun. Glad to see PSG in person.

00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:23.720
I haven't been in myself in person maybe six

00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.400
years ago in Eugene. against Inter Milan of all

00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:28.359
teams. So I've now seen them in person twice.

00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:34.779
And I think the last match I attended for PSG

00:24:34.779 --> 00:24:41.740
was probably December 2000. So good to be able

00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:43.799
to see them. And that was probably an actual

00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:49.559
competitive match. Oh, most definitely. And that's

00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:50.920
the thing is these matches were competitive.

00:24:51.059 --> 00:24:52.500
These were not treated like friendlies, even

00:24:52.500 --> 00:24:55.180
by the Europeans. Yeah, I'm referring to your

00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:56.460
Eugene match. But yeah, that was a friendly.

00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.359
That was that preseason nice to see turn. I would

00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:03.380
think so. Yeah. But yeah, if you missed out,

00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.640
we said last episode, go. So if you missed out,

00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.339
I'm sorry, because it was such an incredible

00:25:08.339 --> 00:25:12.559
experience. Apology accepted. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:17.119
we did what we could. We did what we could. And

00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:23.890
yeah, had a great time. It'll be interesting

00:25:23.890 --> 00:25:29.150
to see how, how the pricing will work for the

00:25:29.150 --> 00:25:31.950
world cup next year, but hopefully they learn

00:25:31.950 --> 00:25:35.329
some lessons. I'm doubtful, but let's hope so.

00:25:37.990 --> 00:25:41.009
All right. We've got some Scott, a buddy there

00:25:41.009 --> 00:25:44.549
from discord or just off the, off the press.

00:25:44.710 --> 00:25:48.970
I mean, here's the thing is MLS is playing San

00:25:48.970 --> 00:25:52.000
Diego. has won a couple games, including over

00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.019
Vancouver, and have moved themselves solidly

00:25:54.019 --> 00:25:56.980
into first place. They're playing during the

00:25:56.980 --> 00:25:58.140
club. I mean, a lot of these teams are playing,

00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:01.599
right? So a lot of the teams around us have stayed

00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:05.599
relatively static, but the Sounders now have

00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:08.539
some opportunities sitting in fifth place, point

00:26:08.539 --> 00:26:12.180
behind, what, Portland maybe? I was actually

00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:14.279
just talking about that with Nick before you

00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.319
came on. They have 30 points. We have 29. Yep.

00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:22.539
But if they lose their next match and we draw

00:26:22.539 --> 00:26:24.759
our next match, depending on how they lose it,

00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:26.960
we will be equal on points, points per game,

00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:29.839
games played, win, loss, tie, goals for, goals

00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.539
against, and goal differential. Yep, yep. I think

00:26:33.539 --> 00:26:37.279
if they lose 2 -0 and we draw to like 0 -0 or

00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.640
something similar. But we have two big matches

00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:43.440
versus opponents from the East, Columbus and

00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:49.390
Atlanta, and then we play Colorado. We play two

00:26:49.390 --> 00:26:52.410
other teams. Atlanta's not doing well. No, but

00:26:52.410 --> 00:26:55.069
they're always a threat. And they always squeak

00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:57.470
into the playoffs. But it'll be interesting to

00:26:57.470 --> 00:27:01.190
see because we play Colorado. We play, I don't

00:27:01.190 --> 00:27:02.529
have it in front of me right now, but Austin

00:27:02.529 --> 00:27:05.029
was one of them. We play teams around us in the

00:27:05.029 --> 00:27:08.450
standings, teams we have to beat. So at the end

00:27:08.450 --> 00:27:09.849
of this month when we're entering the League's

00:27:09.849 --> 00:27:12.269
Cup and we have to see damn Cruz Azul chant blue

00:27:12.269 --> 00:27:16.009
again. Don't make me mute you. Don't make me

00:27:16.009 --> 00:27:18.710
mute you. It's going to be so frustrating. I

00:27:18.710 --> 00:27:20.730
almost don't want to go watch that stupid team

00:27:20.730 --> 00:27:25.869
again. But we either could be in a prime position

00:27:25.869 --> 00:27:28.109
up in the top three, or we could have dropped

00:27:28.109 --> 00:27:30.890
out of the playoffs. So we'll see. Depending

00:27:30.890 --> 00:27:33.430
on how we perform against Columbus, I don't think

00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:35.309
we need to win. But if we show up against Columbus,

00:27:35.430 --> 00:27:38.829
I'm thinking that we probably will be successful

00:27:38.829 --> 00:27:40.529
moving forward based on our experience in the

00:27:40.529 --> 00:27:46.009
Club World Cup. We need a forward. It's tough

00:27:46.009 --> 00:27:50.990
to not live and die over each individual game

00:27:50.990 --> 00:27:54.150
and treat every game as a referendum on everything

00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:58.130
going forward. And we do that all too often.

00:27:58.329 --> 00:28:00.650
Actually, we do the opposite. We had this discussion

00:28:00.650 --> 00:28:02.690
last time the three of us were here. We show

00:28:02.690 --> 00:28:04.829
time and time and time again the Sounders shitting

00:28:04.829 --> 00:28:07.869
the bed and you're living one by one but claiming

00:28:07.869 --> 00:28:21.009
you're not. I don't think I follow. The Sounders

00:28:21.009 --> 00:28:24.329
have shown that they cannot score in large groups

00:28:24.329 --> 00:28:28.529
except for here and there. Like they're being

00:28:28.529 --> 00:28:32.930
very consistent. And so we're talking about our

00:28:32.930 --> 00:28:35.710
worries are about inconsistency. So you're saying

00:28:35.710 --> 00:28:38.589
what Aaron and I have been complaining about

00:28:38.589 --> 00:28:44.089
for months now. Hey, they scored two goals in

00:28:44.089 --> 00:28:47.250
this last match. They did. They did. I was curious

00:28:47.250 --> 00:28:53.869
if Jesus' goal was offsides. Because not when

00:28:53.869 --> 00:28:57.549
it was passed, but when Jesus kicked it, Danny

00:28:57.549 --> 00:28:59.670
was standing in the goal blocking the goalie.

00:29:00.190 --> 00:29:02.430
And so there's no way the goalie could have reacted.

00:29:03.210 --> 00:29:05.829
And so I don't know the rule on that, though.

00:29:05.910 --> 00:29:07.950
That's an interesting thing. I don't know the

00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:09.869
rule. Maybe we have to ask Paul Cox since he's

00:29:09.869 --> 00:29:13.039
a ref. He knows that kind of stuff. but I was

00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:14.940
a little surprised it was not called offsides.

00:29:16.460 --> 00:29:19.619
He certainly interfered with the keeper by being

00:29:19.619 --> 00:29:23.599
right in his sight line. I guess I'd have to

00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.279
see it again from what I recall. What I recall

00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.660
is he pretty much roofed that sucker. Sure. Like

00:29:29.660 --> 00:29:33.819
before three yards out, five yards out. I don't

00:29:33.819 --> 00:29:36.119
think anyone could react in that time unless

00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.599
the goalkeeper. I mean, he may not, but does

00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:41.119
that matter? I don't know the rules. I think

00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:43.980
that would be taken into account. But yeah, maybe

00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:47.160
you're right. Because they definitely have made

00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.640
a call. I've seen calls like that before. But

00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:55.039
let me tell you that Danny Mazovsky goal, incredible.

00:29:55.460 --> 00:29:58.019
And definitely a product of him playing in the

00:29:58.019 --> 00:29:59.640
Club World Cup against players of their higher

00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:11.329
caliber. Yes. What was that breath, Nick? I was

00:30:11.329 --> 00:30:15.690
re -watching the goal, and I was seeing what

00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:21.410
Cameron was talking about. But, yeah, it brings

00:30:21.410 --> 00:30:26.750
a really interesting point. Because Danny's run

00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:32.509
is fine up until Jesus kicks it. Because, like

00:30:32.509 --> 00:30:38.640
Cameron says, he's onside. Upon Paul's cross.

00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:44.940
Yes. But that complete, it completely resets

00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:47.980
once he, yeah, no. Cause actually the taking

00:30:47.980 --> 00:30:53.079
another look at that. No, because Danny is literally

00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.980
off the field of play and inside the net. He's

00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:58.160
already in the net by then. I wasn't sure how

00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.819
far off he was, but he, but in the seconds, he

00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:02.680
definitely flashes through there. Right. So that

00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.180
makes it hard to respond to. But I think to your

00:31:05.180 --> 00:31:07.759
greater point, even if he's still in the field

00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.299
of play, it's a bang -bang, and there's no...

00:31:11.299 --> 00:31:15.759
He's not in the... I don't think anyone's going

00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.920
to ever call that one offside. Yeah. Which I

00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.740
think should be the case. I also think... It's

00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:25.819
definitely the goal should be counted in the

00:31:25.819 --> 00:31:28.819
spirit of what the rule is, and it definitely

00:31:28.819 --> 00:31:31.299
was. Can you imagine poor dude gets that goal

00:31:31.299 --> 00:31:33.559
and they call it back? Well, I'll tell you what.

00:31:33.619 --> 00:31:37.900
Danny in the first half was making some really

00:31:37.900 --> 00:31:43.119
good runs, was just putting himself in dangerous

00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:45.519
spots, and you could see the frustration on his

00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.680
face. I was talking about Jesus. Oh, I know,

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.720
but it would have been Danny's responsibility

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.660
for getting called back. I guess they both have

00:31:57.660 --> 00:32:02.000
had a pretty big dry spell. Nice. Yeah, I mean,

00:32:02.019 --> 00:32:04.619
Danny got his goal later, though. And Jesus,

00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:07.140
I don't know, his dry spell, I feel like, to

00:32:07.140 --> 00:32:08.740
me, people started complaining again, but it's

00:32:08.740 --> 00:32:10.079
a little different because he's playing multiple

00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.500
different positions, right? His dry spell came

00:32:12.500 --> 00:32:14.589
when he was at a nine. And then they put him

00:32:14.589 --> 00:32:16.670
either at center attacking mid and wing and he

00:32:16.670 --> 00:32:18.369
starts scoring goals. And then they put him back

00:32:18.369 --> 00:32:19.910
at nine and he doesn't score again. And then

00:32:19.910 --> 00:32:22.410
people are upset. It's like, well, clearly, why

00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:24.890
aren't we putting people in positions to succeed?

00:32:26.029 --> 00:32:28.170
And I know the answer to that, but I'm just saying

00:32:28.170 --> 00:32:31.690
the fans need to understand then if you're putting

00:32:31.690 --> 00:32:34.289
someone in a position that, and I'm not saying

00:32:34.289 --> 00:32:36.289
he can't play a number nine. He obviously can't.

00:32:36.289 --> 00:32:39.009
He can't play it either A, in our system or B,

00:32:39.069 --> 00:32:42.940
with our. either talent level or the way we pass

00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:45.759
the ball to him. And I don't know which it is.

00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.140
But at the same time, let's just focus a little

00:32:49.140 --> 00:32:51.859
bit on the bigger picture, which is that he currently

00:32:51.859 --> 00:32:54.319
has two goals and four assists in league play.

00:32:55.299 --> 00:32:58.660
So, I mean, that's pretty good. And, I mean,

00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:01.420
I'm going to toot my own horn one more time on

00:33:01.420 --> 00:33:05.980
Danny Mussofsky. I said if he would get that

00:33:05.980 --> 00:33:09.680
first goal before the third of the season mark,

00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.279
he'd be good for five to ten. He's currently

00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:18.880
at six. I was skeptical that he was going to

00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.380
come back and play well because he hadn't been

00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:22.819
playing well leading into the Club World Cup.

00:33:23.099 --> 00:33:25.779
He played well in the Club World Cup, and it

00:33:25.779 --> 00:33:28.220
lit a fire in him that it looks like he's going

00:33:28.220 --> 00:33:31.890
to continue to just roll and succeed. And both

00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:35.029
things can be true, is that he's lit a fire,

00:33:35.089 --> 00:33:38.609
he's been looking good, but he should not be

00:33:38.609 --> 00:33:41.130
counted on as our primary striker. Both things

00:33:41.130 --> 00:33:43.170
can be true. I think I agree with that, yeah.

00:33:43.390 --> 00:33:46.069
I agree with that, too. Although, I mean, the

00:33:46.069 --> 00:33:50.089
composure on his goal, though, I fully expected

00:33:50.089 --> 00:33:54.950
based on his recent form. Oh, but no, that goal

00:33:54.950 --> 00:33:57.630
was incredible. I mean, the fact he, he created

00:33:57.630 --> 00:34:00.490
space, but he did not create a lot of space and

00:34:00.490 --> 00:34:03.569
then, and then just booted it in a way that like,

00:34:03.630 --> 00:34:05.869
yeah, this is going in. I thought the ball was

00:34:05.869 --> 00:34:07.150
going to get caught up under him when he was

00:34:07.150 --> 00:34:09.590
kind of moving off. Yeah. No, it was a fantastic

00:34:09.590 --> 00:34:13.230
goal. I mean, this is, this is what you want

00:34:13.230 --> 00:34:16.210
out of your backup striker. You know, it's, it's,

00:34:16.210 --> 00:34:19.420
um, Will Bruin, when he, the early, the first

00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:22.659
few years, it's what we were hoping for when

00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:25.760
we signed Hebert. You know, we were kind of hoping

00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:31.039
for this. Obviously, it just didn't happen. But

00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.079
it's good to see this coming through. It's good

00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:39.039
to see this from Danny. And now that we got Jordan

00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.099
looking healthier and healthier, hopefully we

00:34:42.099 --> 00:34:45.190
can... parlay that to Danny being a super sub

00:34:45.190 --> 00:34:48.610
and coming off the bench. And once again, like

00:34:48.610 --> 00:34:52.110
this Austin game, looking at what we had coming

00:34:52.110 --> 00:34:57.130
off the bench is just such a luxury when you're

00:34:57.130 --> 00:35:00.909
able to bring on Ryan Kent, Jordan Morris, Pedro

00:35:00.909 --> 00:35:04.809
de la Vega, Danny Leyva, Jao Paulo, all off the

00:35:04.809 --> 00:35:10.329
bench. That's, again, it's easy to forget how

00:35:10.329 --> 00:35:13.860
much depth we have as a team. And we have our

00:35:13.860 --> 00:35:17.500
new star starting center back, Alex Roldan. Right.

00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.900
That's actually, I wanted to get into that when

00:35:19.900 --> 00:35:21.179
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Yeah, we're nice. Yeah. So, speaking of... Analytics,

00:37:48.929 --> 00:37:51.650
stats, numbers. How many positions has Alex Roldan

00:37:51.650 --> 00:37:54.489
played in his career? Most recently, he was center

00:37:54.489 --> 00:37:57.690
back. For the Sounders? Yeah. In his pro career?

00:37:58.789 --> 00:38:00.849
Sure, let's just say Sounders. How many do you

00:38:00.849 --> 00:38:03.269
think would be the number on that? One, two,

00:38:03.409 --> 00:38:07.730
three, four, at least four. I would say probably

00:38:07.730 --> 00:38:10.929
five. Okay, I think the fact that one of them

00:38:10.929 --> 00:38:13.579
is keeper. yeah that kind of makes that more

00:38:13.579 --> 00:38:15.820
impressive keeper right back center back right

00:38:15.820 --> 00:38:18.340
mid and i mean if we're gonna count right wing

00:38:18.340 --> 00:38:20.500
back that's i wasn't but technically you could

00:38:20.500 --> 00:38:24.239
argue that's a different position uh and i wonder

00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.880
if he played cdm at some point uh late in a match

00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:29.739
or something when we were trying to load the

00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:33.659
back of the box well yeah considering the that

00:38:33.659 --> 00:38:36.500
he's played in the in the attacking band for

00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.940
for El Salvador and also that we signed him to

00:38:40.940 --> 00:38:46.019
be an attacking midfielder. Yeah, he's probably

00:38:46.019 --> 00:38:48.679
played most of the position. Is that what he

00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:52.480
was signed as? Uh -huh. I remember him being

00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.519
more forward. Well, keep in mind, after the first

00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.000
season, we didn't exercise his contract and he

00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:03.500
was without a team. He busted his ass off in

00:39:03.500 --> 00:39:06.920
the offseason. He showed up to training camp

00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.900
without guaranteed of a spot, earned his way

00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:11.820
back onto the team, and that was, what, 2019?

00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:16.739
Feels about right. Just such a great story. I

00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:20.400
mean, the Roldan family is just fantastic. It's

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.099
so good. I mean, he played well enough that we

00:39:23.099 --> 00:39:25.599
let, I mean, money was another reason, but we

00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:32.099
let Leardom go. Yeah. Yeah. We wanted Leardom

00:39:32.099 --> 00:39:33.789
back. They just couldn't afford him. How do you

00:39:33.789 --> 00:39:36.210
think he did at center back in that match, Austin?

00:39:36.389 --> 00:39:38.429
I thought he did great. Yeah, he seemed solid.

00:39:39.070 --> 00:39:46.070
He didn't take a ton of chances. I did see one

00:39:46.070 --> 00:39:49.070
thing that was a really nice benefit to him being

00:39:49.070 --> 00:39:54.150
a center back is the man can pass. So can Reagan.

00:39:54.309 --> 00:39:57.449
That's what stood out to me is that we have two

00:39:57.449 --> 00:39:59.969
center backs that can distribute the ball pretty

00:39:59.969 --> 00:40:04.510
much anywhere. Yeah, exactly. And dribble the

00:40:04.510 --> 00:40:12.050
ball. And so he was 91 % passing, 89 attempts.

00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:17.989
He was 9 for 12 on accurate long balls. I think

00:40:17.989 --> 00:40:21.190
that's... He had 11 passes into the final third.

00:40:21.349 --> 00:40:29.250
Wasn't dispossessed at all. Yeah. 11 passes into

00:40:29.250 --> 00:40:31.599
the final third as a center back. Does that seem

00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.179
high? Not for the Sounders, because remember

00:40:36.179 --> 00:40:38.519
those games where we were the most successful

00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.239
early on in the season is when we had Reagan

00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:43.840
and other center backs pushing up past the midline.

00:40:44.099 --> 00:40:46.739
Maybe, but Reagan only had six passes into the

00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:49.460
final third. Right, but I think Reagan probably

00:40:49.460 --> 00:40:52.059
was. I didn't look at it through this lens while

00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:53.280
they were playing, so I don't have the answer

00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.400
to that. But he was probably the state at home.

00:40:55.539 --> 00:40:59.239
Yeah, because he was more used to defending.

00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:01.940
Yeah, that's probably true because I know there

00:41:01.940 --> 00:41:04.760
were times I did see Alex up almost at the top

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.699
of the 18. And some of that might have been by

00:41:07.699 --> 00:41:09.980
accident. He might have been like, oh shit, I

00:41:09.980 --> 00:41:13.340
shouldn't be here. Sorry, Brian. That could be

00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:18.519
true. But yeah, and you know what I got to say?

00:41:18.659 --> 00:41:20.800
I'm just going to say this right now. It's funny

00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.800
we're talking about Alex Roldan given what I'm

00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:26.699
about to say. Cosa Rienzi is looking better and

00:41:26.699 --> 00:41:29.179
better every time I see him play. I mean, I think

00:41:29.179 --> 00:41:31.719
that was my biggest revelation about this, is

00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.800
if Alice can slot in at center back, that gives

00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.260
Kosa more time on the field. And that's what

00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:40.139
I'd like to see. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:43.019
he had a couple rookie moments, but I think...

00:41:43.019 --> 00:41:44.380
I don't think it should be a one -off is what

00:41:44.380 --> 00:41:46.659
I'm saying. Yamar, for the amount of money he's

00:41:46.659 --> 00:41:49.659
making, I think... I think this may be his last

00:41:49.659 --> 00:41:51.920
season, even though I think he has another year

00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.480
on the contract. I was just going to say, I don't

00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.280
know if he's too excited about Alex's performance

00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.099
out there. Okay, you're talking about not later

00:41:58.099 --> 00:42:00.019
this season. You're talking about at the end

00:42:00.019 --> 00:42:02.840
of the season. But even now, if Yamar's not ready

00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.159
to go and he's going to need more breaks just

00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.420
based on his age. But keep in mind, John Bell

00:42:07.420 --> 00:42:09.519
will be back because he was on red card suspension,

00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:11.940
so it wasn't an injury. It was just red card

00:42:11.940 --> 00:42:14.500
suspension. And John Bell's been great, so I'm

00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:16.659
not mad at him. i don't want to take anything

00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:20.139
away from him but i also do think that if chris

00:42:20.139 --> 00:42:22.260
i mean alex can step in and play at a higher

00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:24.300
level than bell then you you put the best player

00:42:24.300 --> 00:42:25.840
there which gives you the best chance to win

00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.800
true now with all that said i will say all of

00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.920
this is to say that when we're saying oh they

00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.139
looked great at least the way that i interpret

00:42:35.139 --> 00:42:37.380
it when i say oh this person looks great john

00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:40.800
bell alex rolled on i'm talking about for where

00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:46.380
they are in the depth chart you know if if if

00:42:46.380 --> 00:42:50.579
Yamar or Jackson Reagan had the exact same game.

00:42:50.659 --> 00:42:52.820
I'm grading on a different scale. Interesting.

00:42:52.900 --> 00:42:55.119
I grade them all the same. I mean, to me, watching

00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:59.059
John Bell throughout this season, with the exception

00:42:59.059 --> 00:43:01.500
of the red card, which he shouldn't have gotten,

00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.420
it was not a red card. He's had maybe two rough

00:43:06.420 --> 00:43:08.739
games, and the rest he's shown that he's MLS

00:43:08.739 --> 00:43:15.849
quality starter. For some teams. I think he's

00:43:15.849 --> 00:43:19.530
better than Yamar right now. Yamar's not healthy.

00:43:21.989 --> 00:43:25.369
I'd rather have a full John Bell out there than

00:43:25.369 --> 00:43:30.389
a three -quarters Yamar. But with all that said,

00:43:30.570 --> 00:43:36.610
we're talking about someone who's fourth, maybe

00:43:36.610 --> 00:43:40.070
even fifth on our center -back depth chart, and

00:43:40.070 --> 00:43:42.829
we're happy with their performance. That's great.

00:43:43.369 --> 00:43:48.130
I mean, that's great stuff. You know, because

00:43:48.130 --> 00:43:51.670
you've got Reagan, you've got Yamar, you've got

00:43:51.670 --> 00:43:54.909
Nuhu, depending on the formation, you've got

00:43:54.909 --> 00:43:59.150
Kim Kihee. That would be the best. Just leave

00:43:59.150 --> 00:44:03.250
them there. But ultimately, but this is great,

00:44:03.309 --> 00:44:07.349
the fact that we have, we're talking about our...

00:44:07.690 --> 00:44:10.489
fourth choice fifth choice center backs and we're

00:44:10.489 --> 00:44:12.690
very pleased with their performance and talking

00:44:12.690 --> 00:44:15.349
about how they could be starting well alex is

00:44:15.349 --> 00:44:18.329
a starting defender so i mean it's not like he's

00:44:18.329 --> 00:44:20.090
been sitting on the bench watching and here's

00:44:20.090 --> 00:44:22.150
his shot and he played well he's been all in

00:44:22.150 --> 00:44:25.070
the field all season at the same time i don't

00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:28.570
i don't i don't particularly want to test the

00:44:28.570 --> 00:44:30.849
limits and see how long he could be a center

00:44:30.849 --> 00:44:33.849
back there I mean, I'd say practice should be

00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:36.449
the one deciding that, though. Yeah, we don't

00:44:36.449 --> 00:44:38.289
know what's going on back there. But it does

00:44:38.289 --> 00:44:45.190
remind me of 2016 when Brad Evans started showing

00:44:45.190 --> 00:44:47.829
up as a center back. and started getting some

00:44:47.829 --> 00:44:50.630
time as center back. And then after that, Gustav

00:44:50.630 --> 00:44:52.690
Svensson was dropping back into the center back

00:44:52.690 --> 00:44:55.809
position. And so not the first foray we've had

00:44:55.809 --> 00:44:59.269
into converting people into the center back position.

00:44:59.309 --> 00:45:01.590
Hell, even earlier this year, we had Josh Atencio

00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:04.849
starting in preseason as center back. I think

00:45:04.849 --> 00:45:07.690
what stands out to me more about Alex, though,

00:45:07.730 --> 00:45:11.630
is Brad Evans, as he aged, was built as a center

00:45:11.630 --> 00:45:16.340
back, too. He's 6 '1", 6 '2". He's not that tall,

00:45:16.340 --> 00:45:21.880
is he? Yeah, he's taller than me. Really? I was

00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.119
eye -to -eye with him when I saw him. I thought

00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:28.500
he was like my height. You're 6 '1", 6 '2". I'm

00:45:28.500 --> 00:45:33.199
6 '0", but yeah. Okay, well, either way. 6 '1",

00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:37.420
yeah, okay. But you don't think of Alex having

00:45:37.420 --> 00:45:39.659
the stature of a typical center back, right?

00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:44.159
No, that's true. It just looked. Yeah. But what's

00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.960
really interesting, I'm very curious to see what

00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:52.139
happens if El Salvador can get their shit together

00:45:52.139 --> 00:45:57.039
because he left the national team because they

00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.320
weren't getting paid and because of their fuckery.

00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.079
They're still in it for World Cup qualifying.

00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:11.300
So, you know, he may end up. He may end up being

00:46:11.300 --> 00:46:14.380
the second Roldan to play in a world or to go

00:46:14.380 --> 00:46:19.719
to the World Cup with his team. And will certainly

00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:24.239
play. Well, yeah. Yeah, they may. Now, actually,

00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:26.599
this brings me to a question since I did mention

00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.440
Nuhu earlier. This goes back to the Club World

00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.960
Cup. Do you think Nuhu starts against PSG if

00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:39.139
it's not his birthday? I didn't know it was his

00:46:39.139 --> 00:46:41.019
birthday. Yeah, I think that's the only reason

00:46:41.019 --> 00:46:43.760
he started. Because he didn't start the second

00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.099
game, and I don't know how you, in good confidence,

00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.000
put him on the field. I would hope that that's

00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.280
not the decision, unless it's like we aren't

00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:56.019
going to be pushing three for nothing. Technically,

00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:01.139
it wasn't. But yes, realistically, it was an

00:47:01.139 --> 00:47:03.760
unreachable. I don't think so, and I'll tell

00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.960
you why. He started because Brian thought he

00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:11.090
was the best player. for that moment the reason

00:47:11.090 --> 00:47:14.449
i know that for sure is the fact that we did

00:47:14.449 --> 00:47:17.849
not see jp against botafogo yeah that's true

00:47:17.849 --> 00:47:23.750
and and brian would have played if if that was

00:47:23.750 --> 00:47:27.690
the case brian would have been to me way more

00:47:27.690 --> 00:47:31.110
likely to play jp against botafogo even for a

00:47:31.110 --> 00:47:35.260
token appearance You didn't even get a sub on

00:47:35.260 --> 00:47:38.519
at the end. Well, that's exactly what I mean.

00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:43.159
That's my evidence for no, that's not a thing.

00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.739
Makes sense to me. With that said, the Botafogo

00:47:46.739 --> 00:47:52.360
jerseys are so clean. Yeah, those are really

00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.219
nice. I'm not going to lie. What is our new jersey

00:47:54.219 --> 00:47:59.320
called? The Salish Sea Kit. Salish Sea Kit. I

00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.980
hadn't seen it in a while, I feel, and it looked

00:48:01.980 --> 00:48:05.619
good. too i'm liking that one i mean i think

00:48:05.619 --> 00:48:08.260
we've only lost one game while wearing those

00:48:08.260 --> 00:48:13.059
um we're yeah they're they're beautiful kids

00:48:13.059 --> 00:48:20.079
they truly are they truly truly are so two nothing

00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.599
win against austin um you know it's interesting

00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.019
i heard someone say this is a team that we were

00:48:25.019 --> 00:48:27.260
expected to beat i don't know why we should be

00:48:27.260 --> 00:48:28.940
expected to beat them other than it being at

00:48:28.940 --> 00:48:32.829
home because their record was only uh slightly

00:48:32.829 --> 00:48:35.630
like one game off from us, right? Like they had

00:48:35.630 --> 00:48:37.190
lost a game we had tied. And they had been on

00:48:37.190 --> 00:48:40.369
good form, but I mean, they only scored 15 goals.

00:48:40.829 --> 00:48:47.789
Sure. But still, it was a must, not a must win

00:48:47.789 --> 00:48:50.269
because there's still early in the season, but

00:48:50.269 --> 00:48:53.550
it was a, I think it was a morally must win for

00:48:53.550 --> 00:48:55.769
the Sounders based on everything. I mean, they'd

00:48:55.769 --> 00:48:57.789
lost five games in a row. Granted, three of them

00:48:57.789 --> 00:48:59.960
were Club World Cup. But they had lost five games,

00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:01.880
or they'd been winless in five games, I guess

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.340
I should say. I don't know if they lost that

00:49:03.340 --> 00:49:05.420
first one or they tied it. Pride or Vancouver,

00:49:05.579 --> 00:49:10.679
I can't remember. But it puts the Sounders back

00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:14.440
on a winning note, now heading into hosting Columbus

00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:17.380
on Sunday. What are you thinking about Columbus

00:49:17.380 --> 00:49:23.039
coming to town? It's hat week. Only Columbus

00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:29.099
cares about that. It's hat week. Look at that.

00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:35.000
Tell the story. Wow. This goes way back. Over

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.219
a decade ago. Way back in the day. Now, keep

00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:43.599
in mind, first off, Columbus wins MLS Cup. We

00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.920
come into the league. We stole Brad Evans. We

00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.760
stole Ziggy Schmidt. We had to pay Columbus.

00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.539
There was some potential tampering going on in

00:49:52.539 --> 00:49:55.780
order for us to get Ziggy Schmidt. I think it

00:49:55.780 --> 00:49:57.820
was league tampering, though, and not us, ultimately.

00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:02.679
So the same as Dempsey. Yeah. Yeah. Talking to

00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:04.559
you, Mike, there, Nick. Yeah, in the end, we

00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:09.079
took, well, Brad Evans at that time was just

00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:14.239
an up -and -coming player, was a Kosarian -Z

00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:16.400
type of player, you know, just up -and -coming,

00:50:16.500 --> 00:50:21.880
some promise, we got him. In those early seasons,

00:50:27.170 --> 00:50:33.369
Aces, any club except for Seattle, kind of came

00:50:33.369 --> 00:50:36.369
out through Columbus. Oh, really? I always heard

00:50:36.369 --> 00:50:38.190
it from L .A. people. People were mad that the

00:50:38.190 --> 00:50:40.230
Sounders came in and were immediately successful.

00:50:40.969 --> 00:50:43.829
In Chicago, people did that a lot too. Were immediately

00:50:43.829 --> 00:50:45.750
successful, and people were angry that we figured

00:50:45.750 --> 00:50:47.789
out how to win right away. Well, not only that,

00:50:47.869 --> 00:50:52.510
but there was also kind of the messy effect where

00:50:52.510 --> 00:50:56.690
in 2009, Nationwide, no one could stop talking

00:50:56.690 --> 00:50:59.949
about Seattle's crowds, Seattle's crowds, because

00:50:59.949 --> 00:51:04.150
we were pulling in passion that wasn't seen on

00:51:04.150 --> 00:51:06.989
that level. I mean, double any other team in

00:51:06.989 --> 00:51:10.429
the league. And so people were kind of getting

00:51:10.429 --> 00:51:13.090
pissed off about it, understandably. I can understand

00:51:13.090 --> 00:51:19.750
that. It really took a hold in 2013 after the

00:51:19.750 --> 00:51:24.579
USA -Panama game here in Seattle. the game that

00:51:24.579 --> 00:51:27.159
ultimately led to Clint Dempsey coming to Seattle.

00:51:27.940 --> 00:51:30.659
What role did that play with him coming to Seattle?

00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.480
Dempsey and Eddie Johnson were walking down the

00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.699
streets and seeing every restaurant had soccer

00:51:40.699 --> 00:51:43.260
games on. Yeah, I'd heard that before, but that

00:51:43.260 --> 00:51:45.960
played a role? Yeah, I think it was the Seattle

00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:50.329
-Mancouver game, I believe. So what ends up happening,

00:51:50.369 --> 00:51:52.210
and then of course the crowd in that game, that

00:51:52.210 --> 00:51:55.210
crowd for that Panama game was just such a great

00:51:55.210 --> 00:52:01.349
crowd. And other U .S. soccer was trying to recreate

00:52:01.349 --> 00:52:05.730
that in other cities for the World Cup qualifying

00:52:05.730 --> 00:52:10.329
cycle. So when it was Seattle, Mexico, or sorry,

00:52:10.489 --> 00:52:15.789
USA, Mexico in Columbus, the American outlaws

00:52:15.789 --> 00:52:21.670
sent The Seattle outlaws president at that time.

00:52:22.449 --> 00:52:25.409
Oh, this is interesting because to my knowledge,

00:52:25.469 --> 00:52:27.449
the Columbus Seattle hate has nothing to do with

00:52:27.449 --> 00:52:29.130
American outlaws. While this is a real thing

00:52:29.130 --> 00:52:31.550
that you're talking about. I'm interested to

00:52:31.550 --> 00:52:33.130
see why you're going this way, because I've never

00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:34.889
heard this from Columbus fans. I know. Well,

00:52:34.949 --> 00:52:37.590
I think all of this is the Seattle Columbus Columbus

00:52:37.590 --> 00:52:39.909
hates us for, for multiple reasons. And I think

00:52:39.909 --> 00:52:42.570
this is, this is part of that in my opinion.

00:52:43.650 --> 00:52:50.630
So. 2013, the AO Seattle president, not me at

00:52:50.630 --> 00:52:53.469
that time, it was a couple predecessors before

00:52:53.469 --> 00:52:58.190
my term there. Were you going to say Reign? I

00:52:58.190 --> 00:53:00.050
was going to say Reign, but that was not me.

00:53:00.150 --> 00:53:05.250
Before my Reign. Came out to Columbus. Columbus

00:53:05.250 --> 00:53:08.150
famously and their supporters group in the Nordec

00:53:08.150 --> 00:53:11.599
for Columbus Crew Games doesn't... don't use

00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:15.880
capos in the same way that we do. So it's very

00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.159
controversial. And so Columbus fans were really

00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:25.179
righteously pissed that Seattle was trying to

00:53:25.179 --> 00:53:30.840
help organize support and basically AO through

00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.480
Seattle under the bus. And instead of saying,

00:53:35.500 --> 00:53:38.719
yeah, we invited him, we asked him to come, basically

00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.380
just let... this turned into like a, you know,

00:53:41.380 --> 00:53:46.420
a soccer sickos shit show, um, leading to the

00:53:46.420 --> 00:53:50.900
AO president in Seattle, leaving AO completely

00:53:50.900 --> 00:53:57.079
and basically nuking the AO Seattle. And made

00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.559
a statement that could have been true for a lot

00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:01.119
of other groups as well, which I thought was

00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:07.860
kind of funny, but so somewhere in this frame

00:54:07.860 --> 00:54:13.210
of mind, during a rivalry week where Seattle

00:54:13.210 --> 00:54:17.849
was playing Columbus. Columbus supporters were

00:54:17.849 --> 00:54:20.710
talking about how much they hate Seattle, but

00:54:20.710 --> 00:54:23.949
they misspelled the tweet and left out the E.

00:54:24.170 --> 00:54:30.190
So they hat Seattle. And so we ran with that

00:54:30.190 --> 00:54:34.309
and basically... made a whole bunch of hats with

00:54:34.309 --> 00:54:36.750
the Columbus Crew logo, but instead of saying

00:54:36.750 --> 00:54:40.530
Cluru, it said Genocide Sucks, you know, because

00:54:40.530 --> 00:54:43.130
Christopher Columbus is a homicidal, genocidal,

00:54:43.130 --> 00:54:50.030
fascist asshole, et cetera. And basically just

00:54:50.030 --> 00:54:54.849
yet another reason, you know, just to have, you

00:54:54.849 --> 00:54:57.929
know, two supporter groups kind of at odds with

00:54:57.929 --> 00:55:02.019
each other. Those of us who have been through

00:55:02.019 --> 00:55:04.380
it a couple times will forever kind of call it

00:55:04.380 --> 00:55:08.159
Hat Week. We're going to call this episode Hat

00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.639
Week now. Well, and it was real ridiculous. The

00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:13.360
things they would come up with are dumb, too.

00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.679
It's uncreative nonsense. Yeah, and that's not

00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:22.579
even to talk about the supporters lighting pyro

00:55:22.579 --> 00:55:26.079
in the bathroom and taking selfies with it looking

00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:31.230
completely ridiculous. Just a few cell phones

00:55:31.230 --> 00:55:37.909
from Columbus supporters. It's just fun to pick

00:55:37.909 --> 00:55:41.949
on them, but also made it that much more infuriating

00:55:41.949 --> 00:55:45.750
when we lost to them in the 2020 MLS Cup. Oh,

00:55:45.769 --> 00:55:47.409
see, I didn't care about that at all. What I

00:55:47.409 --> 00:55:49.210
cared about was the coach. I did, because Caleb

00:55:49.210 --> 00:55:52.050
Porter was... Yeah, the coach was the only thing

00:55:52.050 --> 00:55:56.590
I cared about. Fuck that dude. Speaking of the

00:55:56.590 --> 00:55:58.949
Sounders... We'd be remiss if we didn't mention

00:55:58.949 --> 00:56:02.030
that the Rave Gala is being held on Sunday, July

00:56:02.030 --> 00:56:05.710
20th. Cocktail hour begins at 5 p .m. with seated

00:56:05.710 --> 00:56:08.230
dinner and live auction beginning at 6 .30. And

00:56:08.230 --> 00:56:11.530
the one and only Elvis Costello is performing.

00:56:11.949 --> 00:56:15.730
Oh, shit. I'm very excited to go. I can only

00:56:15.730 --> 00:56:18.750
go because Alliance Council gets discounted tickets

00:56:18.750 --> 00:56:24.579
because tickets are $1 ,000 each. This is, we

00:56:24.579 --> 00:56:26.679
knew it last year. We talked about it last year.

00:56:26.780 --> 00:56:28.920
This is a rich people auction for rich people.

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.440
And I get why, because it allows Rape Foundation

00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:35.489
to do more good work in the community. Last year,

00:56:35.510 --> 00:56:37.690
they raised over a million dollars. This year,

00:56:37.730 --> 00:56:39.849
I expect it to be much higher. It's going to

00:56:39.849 --> 00:56:42.150
be incredible. If you're a nonprofit, you want

00:56:42.150 --> 00:56:45.630
rich people at your auctions. Right. If you have

00:56:45.630 --> 00:56:46.909
money, I'm sure there's people out there that

00:56:46.909 --> 00:56:50.110
listen that have money and can go. I highly recommend

00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:53.710
checking out the Rave Auction. You've been quite

00:56:53.710 --> 00:56:57.070
a few times there, Nicholas. Aaron, did you come

00:56:57.070 --> 00:56:59.190
with us that one year? I went to the Champions.

00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:05.079
right beforehand behind yeah with the houston

00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.960
guys but that was that was that was 2020 right

00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:11.000
like the week after the we won the cup yeah so

00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.699
yeah so so that was uh in fremont that year yeah

00:57:14.699 --> 00:57:18.039
and so this is it's it's a great experience um

00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.739
you know we got to get our pictures taken with

00:57:20.739 --> 00:57:24.079
uh schmatz and garth and all sorts of former

00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:26.440
players and photo with me in the trophies in

00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:29.690
the trophy Absolutely terrible. Well, that one's

00:57:29.690 --> 00:57:32.789
great only because we were actually able to lift

00:57:32.789 --> 00:57:35.090
the trophy, which you're usually not allowed

00:57:35.090 --> 00:57:39.170
to do. Yes. So I've got a great photo of me just

00:57:39.170 --> 00:57:45.670
trophy up in the air, just full, full ecstasy.

00:57:46.949 --> 00:57:50.070
Speaking of which, this week at the game, Kellen

00:57:50.070 --> 00:57:53.909
Rowe was doing meet and greets. Well, no, but

00:57:53.909 --> 00:57:55.650
he was doing the meet and greets, and he brought

00:57:55.650 --> 00:58:01.920
the jacket. So I put his jacket on. The Bogey

00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:06.199
Boys? The Bogey Boys jacket. And so I'm like,

00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.360
I'm only going to put this on for like 20 seconds

00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:12.199
because it is hot. I can't imagine. Kellen's

00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.880
a cool dude. He actually just befriended me on

00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.639
LinkedIn. We're now business connected. Well,

00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.380
Kellen's been a sponsor for Pub League in the

00:58:24.380 --> 00:58:27.599
past. Yep. Sponsored a few teams. He's got his

00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:32.800
wine thing going. So shout out to Vino FC. I

00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.199
know Matt Look is a huge fan of his wine and

00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.960
goes to all those events. Speaking of, I heard

00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:44.179
a rumor, Nicholas. Okay, wait, wait, wait. First

00:58:44.179 --> 00:58:48.820
off, I didn't know she was your sister. My sister

00:58:48.820 --> 00:58:53.619
lives in Idaho. I heard a rumor. that nico and

00:58:53.619 --> 00:58:57.780
roma were holding hands they were outside the

00:58:57.780 --> 00:59:01.320
sounder stadium do we have to have a conversation

00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:06.280
with her about boys now i don't think so i don't

00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:08.760
think so but they were really cute together they're

00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:11.059
really cute together they were they were he was

00:59:11.059 --> 00:59:14.760
talking about it at public oh which this is our

00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:17.719
first show since i for the second year in a row

00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:21.659
my team has won the championship I do not know

00:59:21.659 --> 00:59:24.219
what it's like to be a loser. I am a champion

00:59:24.219 --> 00:59:27.440
through and through. And if I don't win this

00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:32.760
next season, it's clearly rigged. Okay. So this

00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:36.400
is why Cameron is up for most fun to play with.

00:59:36.579 --> 00:59:38.679
Okay. Good to know. Good to know. No, it was

00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.340
because I made weekly playlists since our theme

00:59:41.340 --> 00:59:44.380
was not a phase, an emo theme. Every week I made

00:59:44.380 --> 00:59:47.300
a different playlist to get our team through

00:59:47.300 --> 00:59:50.010
the week and tell the games. Emos. I don't know

00:59:50.010 --> 00:59:54.309
because if my team was not a phase and I was

00:59:54.309 --> 00:59:57.090
going to do something weekly, it probably wasn't

00:59:57.090 --> 01:00:00.110
going to be. Not a phase. It's not a phase. I

01:00:00.110 --> 01:00:02.210
stopped as soon as the season was over. They

01:00:02.210 --> 01:00:04.530
don't get any more. That's funny. That's a good

01:00:04.530 --> 01:00:08.789
name. Not a phase. Not a phase FC. Yeah, it was.

01:00:09.250 --> 01:00:14.800
AFC we went with. Athletic Football Association.

01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:18.980
AFC is the email of the AFCs. So back to the

01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:21.760
Austin game. Why don't we talk about that a little

01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.159
bit? We moved on to Columbus. We moved on to

01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.780
Columbus, yeah. We finished Austin. You lost

01:00:26.780 --> 01:00:29.599
your damn mind? Yeah, I have. I have. We've been

01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.519
jumping all over the place. It's like this is

01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:33.719
the ADD podcast. It's hat week. You literally

01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:36.320
just said it's hat week. It's hat week, Nicholas.

01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.599
You're the only one wearing a hat. Yeah, you're

01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:41.500
wearing a Weezer hat, which... It's incredible.

01:00:41.739 --> 01:00:44.380
In fact, now move your thumb. Do that symbol

01:00:44.380 --> 01:00:46.059
again. Now move your thumbs in a little bit.

01:00:47.260 --> 01:00:49.980
Yep, okay. So I was at the Wu -Tang show instead

01:00:49.980 --> 01:00:53.519
of at the Sounders match. Yeah, I did see that.

01:00:53.659 --> 01:00:57.559
I did see the goals, though, as I had it up on

01:00:57.559 --> 01:00:59.840
my phone at various times throughout the night.

01:00:59.980 --> 01:01:02.940
So I did get to see the goals. And then, of course,

01:01:02.980 --> 01:01:05.840
rewatched it later. Seattle Sounders ain't nothing

01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:08.219
to fuck with. That's right. Columbus is coming

01:01:08.219 --> 01:01:11.409
to town. Do you have standings in front of you?

01:01:11.550 --> 01:01:14.449
I do. I do. So right now Columbus is sitting

01:01:14.449 --> 01:01:17.769
in fourth in the Eastern Conference with 37 points.

01:01:17.889 --> 01:01:20.570
They feel better than that, though. Well, it's

01:01:20.570 --> 01:01:23.110
just that they're a very talented team. They're

01:01:23.110 --> 01:01:27.130
a very talented team, but they are in a little

01:01:27.130 --> 01:01:34.710
bit of transition. Gazdag is up top usually,

01:01:34.809 --> 01:01:39.380
and, of course, they've got Diego Rossi. Still

01:01:39.380 --> 01:01:41.599
in the prime of his career. Darlington Nagby

01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:47.920
somehow still is kicking it. Still kicking it

01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:52.840
there. They've got Evan Bush and Goal. They're

01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:56.739
well coached. I think best coach in the MLS,

01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.099
man. Yeah, I still can't believe Montreal is

01:02:00.099 --> 01:02:03.219
so incompetent to let a gift horse like that

01:02:03.219 --> 01:02:10.989
leave. So Columbus is three points out of the

01:02:10.989 --> 01:02:14.690
Supporter Shield lead. They're sitting on 37

01:02:14.690 --> 01:02:18.550
points. Philadelphia's got 40 right now. They're

01:02:18.550 --> 01:02:21.750
both even on 20 games played. We're sitting on

01:02:21.750 --> 01:02:25.690
19 points with 29 points, or 29 points and 19

01:02:25.690 --> 01:02:31.730
games. So we're currently in fifth in the West.

01:02:34.050 --> 01:02:36.889
You know, we've just got to start. making sure

01:02:36.889 --> 01:02:41.190
that we keep getting results, keep getting results.

01:02:44.489 --> 01:02:47.650
I'm not entirely sure that's going to help a

01:02:47.650 --> 01:02:49.670
lot, but I'm not sure in this particular game,

01:02:49.730 --> 01:02:52.210
two goals is going to win it. Might tie it though.

01:02:52.329 --> 01:02:54.030
I think, I think if we score two goals, we're

01:02:54.030 --> 01:02:55.369
probably going to get a point out of it. Maybe

01:02:55.369 --> 01:02:59.539
not, but. Yeah, I don't see a 4 -2. That's kind

01:02:59.539 --> 01:03:02.980
of an unusual result for Sunderland. Yeah. But

01:03:02.980 --> 01:03:07.460
I do think that we're going to have to score

01:03:07.460 --> 01:03:11.820
some goals here. You think Jordan sees some time?

01:03:12.500 --> 01:03:15.219
Yeah, I don't know how much of a minutes restriction

01:03:15.219 --> 01:03:21.579
he's going to be on, if at all. He'll have a

01:03:21.579 --> 01:03:25.659
week off between... His last appearance? They

01:03:25.659 --> 01:03:28.639
played on Saturday. This is on Sunday at 2. Yeah.

01:03:28.739 --> 01:03:34.119
Yep. So they have 33 goals on the season, which

01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:38.900
is six more than us. They've allowed in 23 goals,

01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:44.179
which is two less than us. So their goal differential

01:03:44.179 --> 01:03:47.739
is seven. And they sit three points behind first

01:03:47.739 --> 01:03:54.960
place Philly. Yeah, they're good. They're good.

01:03:55.099 --> 01:03:59.039
This is a great test. This is a great chance

01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:01.260
for the Sounders to come out and show that the

01:04:01.260 --> 01:04:06.840
Club World Cup was really helpful and got them

01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:08.639
into a form where they can move forward. I'm

01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:10.280
just annoyed that League's Cup is going to come

01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:14.639
interrupt. It's really tricky because Columbus

01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.019
has won their last three straight, but against

01:04:17.019 --> 01:04:19.920
Philly, who, as we've said, is the top of the

01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:24.019
league right now, Atlanta. And Vancouver. Now,

01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.079
don't get too excited about that Vancouver one

01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:27.280
because that was in the middle of the international

01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:31.760
break when, you know, they were... That should

01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.820
have been a really great litmus test. Although

01:04:34.820 --> 01:04:36.900
San Diego destroyed... I guess they didn't destroy

01:04:36.900 --> 01:04:38.920
them, but they made them look foolish at times.

01:04:39.179 --> 01:04:41.579
Yeah, but I mean, the point is that we're playing

01:04:41.579 --> 01:04:43.880
through international breaks and we're not seeing

01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.059
Columbus versus Vancouver with both teams at

01:04:47.059 --> 01:04:49.119
full strength. And that's just a shame. It's

01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:51.980
just a shame. did give up five goals to Miami

01:04:51.980 --> 01:04:55.920
back on May 31st. They did. They did. Which was

01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.400
the Miami reawakening. Prior to that, Miami had

01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.320
been really struggling, and that is kind of what

01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.199
jump -started them into some success there. Well,

01:05:04.219 --> 01:05:07.599
it's frustrating because this six -game run for

01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:09.920
them should be one of their toughest stretches

01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:13.699
of the year, and yet it just seems like they're...

01:05:14.030 --> 01:05:16.269
They're passing the test. They had Nashville,

01:05:16.630 --> 01:05:20.110
Miami, Vancouver, Atlanta, Philly, and then us.

01:05:21.929 --> 01:05:27.170
But fuck Columbus. So let's just focus on our

01:05:27.170 --> 01:05:30.309
stuff. But fuck Columbus. But fuck Columbus.

01:05:32.849 --> 01:05:38.530
Get the butter. All right, explicit. Bring out

01:05:38.530 --> 01:05:44.780
the gimp. God. Gimp's sleeping. Come on. guy

01:05:44.780 --> 01:05:50.960
in mask permanently okay so we want to go over

01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:53.639
predictions or anything like that yeah and do

01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.519
you actually have our results there we go it's

01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:02.440
okay i do not because i i have been i have been

01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:07.530
running ragged yeah no i mean honestly Too busy

01:06:07.530 --> 01:06:10.050
with those five matches, huh? Here's the thing

01:06:10.050 --> 01:06:12.610
is six. Aaron, you were like, you were like,

01:06:12.650 --> 01:06:14.170
I've been working so hard. I don't think you

01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:16.909
understand what it is like to have to go to a

01:06:16.909 --> 01:06:19.269
soccer game every other day at noon. It is a

01:06:19.269 --> 01:06:22.269
lot of work, man. Let me tell you, I was tired.

01:06:22.889 --> 01:06:25.840
I kept having to get up early. I was walking

01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:29.440
10 ,000 to 20 ,000 steps every single time. Roma

01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.260
has been beating the shit out of me at these

01:06:31.260 --> 01:06:33.239
matches. She's turned really violent. I don't

01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:37.059
know why. And seriously, she has. This has been

01:06:37.059 --> 01:06:38.619
a hard life. You're like, oh, I got to go to

01:06:38.619 --> 01:06:41.039
work. You get to go to work in San Diego, man.

01:06:41.300 --> 01:06:43.159
It's beautiful there. Oh, yeah, technically.

01:06:43.500 --> 01:06:45.900
Yeah, well. You can hang out at Thomas Jefferson

01:06:45.900 --> 01:06:50.440
Law School. Well, I do. But we had a very difficult

01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:54.139
time having to watch soccer every other day.

01:06:54.260 --> 01:06:57.139
World -class soccer. World -class soccer. With

01:06:57.139 --> 01:07:02.139
grass. I had to get a VPN and pay DAZN. Yeah,

01:07:02.139 --> 01:07:03.199
that's so ridiculous. Because I couldn't watch

01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:07.630
live. I will say. My allergies did bother me

01:07:07.630 --> 01:07:09.530
when I sat behind the goal because of the grass

01:07:09.530 --> 01:07:11.389
pollen floating around in the air from the grass.

01:07:11.530 --> 01:07:15.110
Yet another reason turf is better than grass.

01:07:17.130 --> 01:07:19.949
For all the bubble people out there. Yes, that's

01:07:19.949 --> 01:07:22.030
right. So you're saying you don't have a rubber

01:07:22.030 --> 01:07:26.889
allergy? I do not, thankfully, because I am single,

01:07:27.050 --> 01:07:32.690
so I need them. Jesus. All right. No. I did set

01:07:32.690 --> 01:07:37.000
him up. He took it. He ran with it. I can't be

01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.360
held responsible. How do we get cameras? Can't

01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:47.539
be held responsible. Her face. What song is it?

01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:52.139
No. It won't be held responsible. Are you trying

01:07:52.139 --> 01:07:57.920
to go freshman, Verpipe? Yes. Cameron's like,

01:07:58.059 --> 01:08:00.139
it's got something about doing something on her

01:08:00.139 --> 01:08:02.519
face. I won't be held responsible. I don't really

01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:06.639
remember the lyrics. The look on her face. We

01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:09.980
need to end this. Yeah, man. With the Freshman

01:08:09.980 --> 01:08:13.320
by Verve Pipe or Verve? Which one's them? No,

01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:16.800
Verve Pipe. Verve was Bittersweet Symphony and

01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:21.979
the very underrated Simple Man. Other single

01:08:21.979 --> 01:08:23.640
that no one's ever heard except for Nicholas.

01:08:25.939 --> 01:08:30.500
Happiness, more or less. That's good stuff. Speaking

01:08:30.500 --> 01:08:35.039
of which, Nicholas, or perhaps all of our listeners,

01:08:35.300 --> 01:08:38.359
I just noticed that there are currently Groupons

01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:41.479
available making the Billy Idol and Joan Jett

01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:43.600
and the Blackheart show at Climate Pledge on

01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.800
September 20th only $24. I don't know how you

01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:49.340
pass up a chance to go see Billy Idol and Joan

01:08:49.340 --> 01:08:53.720
Jett for $24. That's fucking amazing. One, I've

01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:57.640
met Joan Jett. She is an absolute gem of a human

01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:01.199
being. She's great. I have two, actually. Two,

01:09:01.220 --> 01:09:05.640
I just would be remiss if I didn't say Simple

01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:09.680
Man with Lynyrd Skynyrd. I meant Lucky Man. It

01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.140
was going to drive me nuts. So, Lucky Man. Fantastic

01:09:13.140 --> 01:09:17.520
song by The Verb that I think is actually better

01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:23.140
than Bittersweet Symphony. Yeah, I met... Joan

01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:26.140
Jett, she was staying at the hotel I was managing

01:09:26.140 --> 01:09:32.659
back in the day, and her alias was Anita Joint.

01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:35.880
First name Anita, last name Joint. What if she

01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:38.260
still uses that and you just outed her? This

01:09:38.260 --> 01:09:40.880
was 15 years ago, so you're the lawyer. I think

01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:43.300
I'm good. I mean, you're good either way, and

01:09:43.300 --> 01:09:45.140
you don't work at that job. I mean, security

01:09:45.140 --> 01:09:47.779
ops, she should be changing that shit up. Yep,

01:09:47.859 --> 01:09:51.550
that's true. With that said, she needs a joint.

01:09:51.670 --> 01:09:55.050
So if you see Joan Jett, give that lady a joint.

01:09:55.229 --> 01:10:00.510
Speaking of joints, what is your joint? What?

01:10:01.789 --> 01:10:05.369
I didn't finish. What is your joint score total

01:10:05.369 --> 01:10:08.250
for the upcoming Seattle versus Columbus match?

01:10:10.869 --> 01:10:14.609
Joint score total? Five. I think it's going to

01:10:14.609 --> 01:10:16.329
be five. Okay, how many goals do you think are

01:10:16.329 --> 01:10:22.439
going to be scored? Four. Interesting. I've been

01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:24.359
doing the over a lot lately, and I've been wrong,

01:10:24.460 --> 01:10:26.239
so I'm going to go with three. I liked when you

01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:28.479
said two, too. I think that's going to happen.

01:10:29.659 --> 01:10:32.640
What are we? What are we? A ballet class? Mm

01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:37.960
-hmm. Look at me plie. Don't be a unitard, man.

01:10:42.979 --> 01:10:47.020
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