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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the public

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can't say he's cheating. monkey spank spank your

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monkey before i said that man i gotta tell you

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i made the mistake we do not want to know about

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it no you do made the mistake at public today

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to talk about how how nicely brandon's balls

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were dropping that's about time you went from

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brandon to brandon let's go brandon we're not

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gonna talk about trump inciting an insurrection.

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Oh, I forgot about that. I hated that because

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when Brandon and Tanev got hurt, we couldn't

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chant let's go Brandon because of that. So we've

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time shifted to just before the 20th minute.

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It's 20 flat and Aaron Lely is here with a beer

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that I cracked while we were on break because

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I showed up late. Wasn't paying attention to

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traffic laws in California. I mean, I thought

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there were not. That feels like Steph Park for

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the course. Just drive 80 like everyone else.

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And that's the slow lane. It's beautiful. So

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the question was, what should the players do?

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I mean, I think it depends on the player. Because

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if there's a player that wants to ever play in

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a FIFA tournament again, they likely can't do

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much. I'm curious if it would affect them in

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this FIFA tournament. Also, would they be fined

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or would they be banned? What would happen? FIFA

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is not going to look kindly in protests. I think

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you could put messages on your shirts and pull

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up your shirt after you score a goal, stuff like

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that. But once you're in it, you also don't want

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to hurt the relationship with the Players Association

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too. So I think they've got to all come up with

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a plan and do it in solidarity together. And

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if someone wants to take it into their own hands,

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it has to be someone who is not worried about

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a future in a FIFA, like going to the World Cup.

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Well, I mean, Steph Fry is obviously a leader

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in such, would fall into that camp. However,

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if we look at some of the private protests, such

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as during the Black Players for Change. a group

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that was formed, seeing teams take knees, seeing

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different types of protests. I would like to

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just see this get resolved. I mean, I think it's

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too late at this point. I don't know how, I don't

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know what, if the MLS's offer is that bad, I

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don't understand what could be made better because

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they didn't even play ball. It was the most insulting

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offer they could have given. Yeah. They would

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have been better off saying nothing. We're going

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to find out more in the next week. And I think

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sweeper, keeper, seeing what kind of pushback

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that the league gets, we'll find out. I mean,

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the unfortunate thing is there's no games. I

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mean, next week there is some other games going

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on, but there's no games by the teams that are

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affected. So there's no chance for fans to protest.

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That's true, but we can certainly find all three

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teams making a joint statement or the MLSPA making

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a joint statement. Obviously, media scrums leading

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into this, they have chances to make statements.

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So we'll see what happens over the coming days.

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i just don't trust fifa here like what you were

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talking about before were protests against the

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mls and fifa this is a fifa tournament so they

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could completely screw it up for everyone well

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again this is i want to focus less on fifa because

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fifa frankly i'm gonna shock myself when i say

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this fifa's done no wrong in this situation they

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created the prize money with the intent that

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it goes to players to get player involvement

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mls so let's sure but the problem is that it's

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a fifa tournament that's what i'm saying so any

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protest done against the mls in the tournament

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would be seen in a poor make fifa in a poor light

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so that's why i'm saying that anything that's

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done in it could hurt someone's fifa career but

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there are things you can uh there are things

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you can do that don't involve during the actual

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90 of the game being played but also that may

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not be i mean i i want to caution against again

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against using uh interviews if they're part of

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your involvement in the tournament now if they're

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going on kjr and just talking that's completely

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different but if it's during your media time

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when you're supposed to be available to the those

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reporters that are covering the tournament that

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again could be something that could be punished

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why couldn't they be on our show cameron why

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would they just why would KJR be their option?

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I mean, if you want to call up Alex Caulfield

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and make it happen, I'm all for it. We got credit

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to see how that conversation goes. Love to see

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how that conversation goes. We, this is, we have,

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I mean, it's true. We have an open invitation

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to any player that wants to come on and talk

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labor rights and stuff like that too, for with

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you, we'll do it. Or if you just want to talk

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about your paintings. or your house that you

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designed in one of those islands over in the

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water, come on. We'll talk to you. I wonder how

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many times he's gone to Isla Bonita. La Casa

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Bonita. Or San Carlos. San Carlos was the whitewashed

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kind of Mexican place that was on the island.

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Actually, Southwest is what they classify themselves

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as. Southwest food. But really good. I will say,

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we're here in the starting 26th minute. The Sounders'

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defense has been relatively solid in the back

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today. Anytime Vancouver has pushed forward,

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their chances have largely been... There's a

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guy in the Vancouver section wearing a Yankees

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hat. What the heck is this garbage? Anyway, the

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Sounders' defense has largely been organized

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and clearing the ball out. very well, which is

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something that we love to see. And maybe something

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that's harmed us this season is that we haven't

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been doing that as clearly. Yeah, and their offense

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has been possessive. They look better today than

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they did in some previous games, though. I am

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liking these kits. I'm liking that blue. Yeah,

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it's beautiful. And if it's, I mean... I think...

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I believe we're still unbeaten in these blues.

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Beautiful. I don't want to jinx that, but...

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The one thing that's key on these types of episodes,

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and I know you're both intently watching, is

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we can't watch and not talk. So you need to make

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sure to feel sound and only slow down if something

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very exciting is happening. You need to have

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one mind on the game and one mind in the talking,

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because otherwise it won't be as fun. Where are

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we at on the table? Which brings, where are we

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at on the table? Something like that. We are

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not winning the other day hurt a lot, I think,

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because we had a chance to jump to second. But

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here is a chance to get three points against

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a team. What did you all think about the fact

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that they tried to wriggle their way out of this

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game, though, by saying, we're sick and we have

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players away? What was the story behind that?

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I caught on to that, but I was just a little

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out of the loop. They tried to get it postponed.

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Multiple players. They had to cancel training

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sessions because something like 15 players got

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sick. By the way, we are in fifth place in the

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standings with 27 points. Going into the game.

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Is Portland ahead of us now with their last second

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win today? I don't know if the standings have

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been updated, but they are at 29 points. I believe

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that does include today. Yeah, that should, because

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we were ahead of them initially. Yeah, take a

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look at the live standings. We're fifth, Portland's

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fourth. Yeah, because they get their, at least

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after the 89th minute, with that seven minutes

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of injury time they scored in that match, unfortunately,

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against St. Louis. Another failed corner for

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the Sounders. I struggle with the fact that we

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have the most corners in the league, and yet

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we have, what, one goal based off of corners?

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It was a problem last season as well, where we

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had so many corners. I feel like, and this isn't

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just a Rusnak thing, but sometimes we have trouble

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getting the ball over the first defender. on

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corners and even if we do no one gets their head

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to it and so maybe we need to start doing short

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corners or you know brian looked into different

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ways to do it i've seen a number of short corners

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a few i mean we have the most in the league still

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right yeah when you stepped away that's you're

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saying we have the most in the league but we

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have the worst scoring percentage off of it because

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we don't score yeah i agree jesus ferreira is

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down it looks like he got stepped on maybe Yeah,

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but he seems to be okay. Knew who was trying

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to get the ball back in quickly, not caring about

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his teammate. No one's moving. Why is he trying

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to throw that in early? Maybe Brian told him.

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He's right behind there. It's funny seeing from

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this angle. I feel like I'm just so used to home

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games where Brian's on the other side of the

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field. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The camera wells

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on that. That's a good point. uh it does also

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show up really really much in in these these

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broadcasts but it's largely considered to be

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some of the worst pitch in the league is the

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bc place and it doesn't look too great on tv

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that's for sure yeah it looks pretty beat up

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it's the bc lions play here is there any other

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teams well i mean they're uh they're large concerts

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probably i know rogers arena is right there but

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i'm sure they get i mean no nick and i saw um

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Beyonce here. No, no. Wait, was it here? It was

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here. That's right. It wasn't at GM Place. Yeah,

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we saw Beyonce here. I had to think about that.

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That was Roma's first concert. Was that Christian

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with the shot in there? Yeah. So now we do have

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a corner kick coming up with Rosnack. So let's

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see. Is it over under the first player? I mean,

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he's been getting him over largely, but... When

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they do, they go really far. But that's interesting

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that Ryan Kent came out to get the short corner,

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and that usually pulls the defender out, but

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it hadn't there. So if that keeps happening,

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you're going to see that pass come to him later

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in this game. So that'll be a really interesting

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takeaway from that. Yeah, that was a pretty good

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one. Oh, that was a really good ball from Christian

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to Pedro for a shot that just went wide. I don't

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even think it was meant for Pedro, though. I

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think it was meant for Jesus. And Pedro, it was

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running the opposite direction and got it and

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then almost put it in the corner of the net.

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Yeah. So other scuttlebutt going on right now

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in MLS. What do you guys got? What time are you

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at? In your game, Cameron. 30 -59. Okay. I had

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a hiccup while the corner was being taken. Oh,

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that's interesting. That's why you were behind

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us. I was like, what shot? I mean, I feel like,

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did we talk about it last episode? I don't think

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we did. Messi, his agents have been given the

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go -ahead to talk with Saudi Arabia officials

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about going to play there. I did not see that,

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actually. That doesn't mean he's going to. In

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fact, it's probably just a leverage move in order

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to get more money. And with Cristiano Ronaldo

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leaving and potentially going to LAFC, That's

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an interesting scuttlebutt going on. I don't

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think Messi would leave, but they would definitely

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play against each other. You know the league

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would put that together if they were both in

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the MLS. I don't... This is a good question.

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By the way, I'm at 31 -40 right now. 41. Try

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and refresh. They're in a water bottle. I'm in

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a water bottle, but I can't skip one. Then back

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out and reload. Yeah. What... Would you think,

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I mean, what would you think about Ronaldo coming

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to the Sounders now? And I, I agree with you.

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I'm not asking from a, we have to pay all that

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money perspective. I'm asking from a soccer.

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Yes, please. No. Yes, please. No. You say yes.

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Okay. Let me, let me, let me have a little bit

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more nuance to this. Yes, please. If we're spending

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that kind of money for a player, whatever that

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dollar amount is, we can absolutely get someone

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that will be a better fit for the Sounders Club.

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I agree with you. And the type of player we're

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looking for. I mean, we could get four of those

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somethings. Well, maybe not because you only

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get three DP slots, but I get what you're saying.

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Bring in one as a TAM player. You know, there's

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ways to figure it out, right? But no, so that's

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the thing is, and this is someone who... My old

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housemate was from Portugal, so I have watched

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a lot of Ronaldo games. And I like Ronaldo. Ronaldo,

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as a player, Ronaldo shares the exact same birth

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date as my wife. So it's kind of funny to think,

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wow, so Bernie, you could be playing soccer at

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this professional level. I mean, there's still

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time. Get that MLS to you. Right? No, but on

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the other side... With that 32 -year -old who

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practiced really, really hard and he tried out

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for the LA Galaxy. I mean... I could play for

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the LA Galaxy right now with how bad they are.

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Finland just accidentally called up a 51 -year

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-old with the wrong name instead of a... Well,

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the right name, but just the same name. No, it

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was a different first name, though. It was the

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same last name. So I think the coach was probably

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like, oh, yeah, because the other one was the

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famous player, right? I miss that. I thought

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they shared the same name. Yeah, that's what

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I thought originally. But sadly, no, it was a

00:15:52.649 --> 00:15:55.789
bigger mess up than that. But yeah, I mean, I

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think I agree with you. We could bring in a lot

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more talent across a roster instead of relying

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on one player. Well, the other thing is, let's

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just say for the sake of this argument that we're

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only going to spend this money on one player.

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Would you want Ronaldo? We're going to spend

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whatever that dollar amount it is that he costs

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to get. That's how much we're going to spend.

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Do you want Ronaldo or do you want to spend that

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same amount of money on another player who would

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theoretically not have? the same pedigree or

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the same talent level as ronaldo but someone

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a couple years younger uh well definitely everyone's

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younger than ronaldo but yeah i mean yeah i mean

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there's players out there that i think we could

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get that would be a better fit than him based

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on his um ego yep that's my biggest concern outside

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of uh for this purpose i'm not talking about

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the rape allegations at all yeah which is why

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i don't think he'll ever come to mls anyways

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but that I mean, I think they've clearly been

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dealt with. If that's all the rumors are him

00:17:03.940 --> 00:17:06.480
now coming to MLS, there's five teams, but the

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odds are currently set at two to one. He comes

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to LAFC. I don't know. Okay. So clearly something's

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been straightened out with that. I don't know.

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Obviously I'm not a fan of him. So I, I, I mean,

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I, I think he is one of, he's the Dwight Trout

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of soccer. He is, he's great. but he's extremely

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overrated, and I don't understand why people

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love him so much. He's no Zinedine Zidane. Who

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knew who running into the box and trying to make

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something happen? To me, he's not a top 10 all

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-time player, so how is he even in the GOAT conversation?

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I like the old Ronaldo. I think the real Ronaldo

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is a better Ronaldo than him. Okay, I am going

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to push back on the top 10. Yeah, he's definitely

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top 10 in my book. He's a top 10. Even if you

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don't like him. 18 to 28 is pretty incredible.

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Yeah. I just think there's too many good players

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in the past that, I mean, I'd rather have Zidane.

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I'd rather have Franz Beckenbauer. I mean, if

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we're only talking forwards and wingers and stuff,

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yeah, maybe. Iniesta, you know, there's a bunch

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of those Spanish players that I think I would

00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:18.500
put above him for sure. Keep in mind, Ronaldo

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is the top goal scorer of all time in all of

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soccer. He's scored more goals than any other

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player in soccer history. Yeah, when you go to

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Saudi Arabia and they're scoring 80 goals a season

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because you're playing against crappy... I mean,

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this is like saying Tom Brady's the greatest

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of all time when Tom Brady got to play against

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the Dolphins and the Jets all the time. Like,

00:18:38.420 --> 00:18:40.299
if Tom Brady played in any other division, he

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would be considered, like, a good quarterback,

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but he would not be considered the greatest of

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all time. Two years ago was mean. Okay, wait.

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I'm going to push back on that because one, how

00:18:51.059 --> 00:18:53.259
many goals has he scored in Saudi Arabia? But

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two, more importantly, he's at 938 goals. Second

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place is Messi with 865. Third place is Pele

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with 762. So unless he's scored 200 goals in

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the last few years that I'm not aware of. I'll

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call BS on that. Again, it's okay to not like

00:19:14.049 --> 00:19:17.329
him as a person. I hate Tom Brady. I can recognize

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that he's one of the best players of all time

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because he's done it for so long. I'm not saying

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neither of them isn't one of the best players

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of all time. You're saying he's not one of the

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top 10 in your list. He would be number probably

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11 on the list. If I'm being completely honest,

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I would probably put the percentile of people

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who do not have him in their top 10. under seven

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percent i think it's a recency bias though and

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that i think i think that he's alive he's alive

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we've identified the problem yeah we've identified

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the problem yeah okay let's make that happen

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oh my god this got dark you're wearing a brazil

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yeah he's not brazilian he's portuguese that's

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what i'm saying the real one i was just gonna

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say that you just don't want him to be above

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pele i would put I would put Roberto Carlos ahead

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of him. Cameron's like, he's not even the best

00:20:12.130 --> 00:20:14.329
Portuguese player of all time. That's his Subio.

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I mean, it might be Figo, if we're being honest

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here. Jesus Christ. Has nothing to do with this.

00:20:25.470 --> 00:20:28.549
He was already dead. I got to just say that so

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far, we're 38 minutes in. Uh, knew who is having

00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:36.480
a game. He is making plays literally on both

00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:42.019
end lines of the field. He's, he's, he's, he's

00:20:42.019 --> 00:20:45.000
having a game. Uh, so a lot of, a lot of, a lot

00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.480
of credit. He's putting in a lot of effort and

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he's playing good defense. And he almost had

00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:52.740
a tap on that, that they just showed the net

00:20:52.740 --> 00:20:57.700
cam of Pedro shot that went wide and knew who

00:20:57.700 --> 00:21:01.950
was the one making the back post run. It's crazy.

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That's because we have possession for so long

00:21:04.869 --> 00:21:06.910
in their end of the field that everyone gets

00:21:06.910 --> 00:21:10.589
an opportunity. We just don't do anything with

00:21:10.589 --> 00:21:16.690
it. Good to see public ethos coming to MLS. Yeah,

00:21:16.710 --> 00:21:20.630
it's about time. I actually had to sub on today

00:21:20.630 --> 00:21:25.250
and I was like, oh, typical Sounders after solidly

00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:28.190
defending the entire time. I heard, oh God, it

00:21:28.190 --> 00:21:30.980
skipped to just catch up because I think, I'm

00:21:30.980 --> 00:21:33.920
just, I think the buff. Now, in all fairness,

00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:37.460
that was really well. The dummy was really nice.

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Yeah, but I'm not sure if it was intentional.

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I'd like to see the replay because we had three

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players standing right there and none of them

00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:47.519
made a move for the ball. And they seem to be

00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.819
showing Jonathan Bell. So they think it's his

00:21:49.819 --> 00:21:53.680
fault perhaps, but Fry's even like, what happened?

00:21:53.740 --> 00:21:57.779
He's going to go look at that replay. We'll see.

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We'll see. As we see the replay come in, beautiful

00:22:03.549 --> 00:22:07.930
pass to the right side of the box, back to the

00:22:07.930 --> 00:22:10.930
top. It gets crossed over to the left. He's in

00:22:10.930 --> 00:22:18.670
the box with two men on him. Yeah, 26 dummies

00:22:18.670 --> 00:22:21.009
it goes through his legs, and no one is coming.

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Whoever was meant to be on him just let him go,

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and I can't tell from that. position but might

00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.160
have been new christian's in a weird spot he's

00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:34.640
not normally in that position but he's the next

00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.240
closest guy in the middle it also could have

00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.380
been obed obed was just kind of standing back

00:22:38.380 --> 00:22:41.440
there um i don't know if but i i can't tell it

00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:43.980
looks like we got passed and passed so they were

00:22:43.980 --> 00:22:45.960
the passing was so good our communication just

00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.960
stopped we can yeah our defenders keep up with

00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:50.619
where they were passing we just our defenders

00:22:50.619 --> 00:22:53.450
were covering the guys who overran the ball and

00:22:53.450 --> 00:22:56.109
they just had a guy standing there ready to be

00:22:56.109 --> 00:22:58.789
a trailer. And so the Sounders are down 1 -0

00:22:58.789 --> 00:23:01.230
on the road in a game where they largely have

00:23:01.230 --> 00:23:05.289
been the better team, but just can't seem to

00:23:05.289 --> 00:23:09.470
get it. This would be... Let's talk about this.

00:23:09.950 --> 00:23:13.170
If the Sounders lose this match, a game where

00:23:13.170 --> 00:23:17.690
they have all their starters, minus John Bell

00:23:17.690 --> 00:23:24.359
and Jordan Morris, Against a team that is missing.

00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.339
You said John Bell. Oh, yeah. Because John Bell.

00:23:29.339 --> 00:23:31.619
I mean, John Bell started. Even Kim Key, I think.

00:23:32.660 --> 00:23:34.960
He's hurting. I know. Even not having Kim Key.

00:23:35.259 --> 00:23:37.319
Yeah, he would be ahead of them, too. You're

00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:39.460
right. But basically, our center back and our

00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:43.759
forward are the two positions that don't have

00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:47.059
our starters in there. We lose a game to a team

00:23:47.059 --> 00:23:49.160
that is already missing players because they

00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:52.240
are. International duty. on international duty

00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.180
plus sick players i mean they said they didn't

00:23:55.180 --> 00:23:59.940
want to play yeah i mean to me this is this is

00:23:59.940 --> 00:24:02.759
this is a game and this is far from over you

00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:04.359
know what i mean like and they're still a good

00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:07.359
team but this is a game where we should be you

00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.160
can't make mistakes like that and we should be

00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.759
winning and we haven't been able to put up the

00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.680
goals to show that we we can here so hopefully

00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.099
this is the game where that changes but to me

00:24:16.099 --> 00:24:20.289
this would this is a no fry demoralizing loss

00:24:20.289 --> 00:24:22.230
heading into a tournament where if I'm a player,

00:24:22.289 --> 00:24:23.910
I don't want to play. I don't want to potentially

00:24:23.910 --> 00:24:26.650
get hurt at the Club World Cup against some of

00:24:26.650 --> 00:24:31.190
these teams and ruin the rest of my career. I

00:24:31.190 --> 00:24:34.849
just saw a clip of Michael Balak's career. He

00:24:34.849 --> 00:24:38.470
got injured and was the last game before the

00:24:38.470 --> 00:24:39.950
World Cup when he played for, I think it was

00:24:39.950 --> 00:24:46.140
Chelsea. And... Messed out on... and missed out

00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:48.220
on the whole world cup and and it was like the

00:24:48.220 --> 00:24:52.220
one in germany uh it might either that or the

00:24:52.220 --> 00:24:55.559
one before one after um i'm not sure south africa

00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:57.759
it had to be the one after because boateng was

00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:03.440
the one who hurt him um so it was a uh you know

00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.599
if you can get hurt in a game that's meaningless

00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:10.440
it it is rough although i hope we see obed shine

00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:13.880
i just i mean what do you do at this point when

00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.170
you can't i mean Vancouver's amazing. We're not

00:25:16.170 --> 00:25:17.990
disputing that, but they just don't have their

00:25:17.990 --> 00:25:21.269
players right now. I guess it shows how good

00:25:21.269 --> 00:25:24.410
their system is. I guess. Well, with that said,

00:25:24.509 --> 00:25:27.549
I did watch the replay of the goal a couple times

00:25:27.549 --> 00:25:30.170
while you were having that conversation. Unfortunately,

00:25:30.250 --> 00:25:33.130
that was New Who's Man. Christian was kind of

00:25:33.130 --> 00:25:37.450
covering the area between the shot and Steph

00:25:37.450 --> 00:25:41.980
Fry. It's just credit Vancouver for putting a

00:25:41.980 --> 00:25:45.240
very dangerous ball in. John Bell can't really

00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.259
make a play on that ball in that position because

00:25:47.259 --> 00:25:50.960
he's almost in a dangerous own goal position.

00:25:52.220 --> 00:25:56.880
And so it's just well done. I think the goal

00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.460
started three passes before the actual shot,

00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:01.599
and I think that's where it just broke down and

00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:07.319
they just made the right next two passes. But,

00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.240
yeah, credit to them. But I think, I mean, they

00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:13.480
didn't want to play. They wanted to postpone

00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:16.180
this match. And we're on the road, but we're

00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:19.740
two hours north of home. And still, this is a

00:26:19.740 --> 00:26:22.299
chance for players to step up who aren't given

00:26:22.299 --> 00:26:24.140
a chance to start regularly, though, and shine.

00:26:24.339 --> 00:26:27.000
And so this is a great opportunity for them.

00:26:27.549 --> 00:26:30.289
With that said, we have some housekeeping to

00:26:30.289 --> 00:26:34.430
note. We are at the 44 -44 moment of the match.

00:26:34.589 --> 00:26:36.549
At halftime, we're going to do a commercial break.

00:26:36.690 --> 00:26:38.730
We're not going to talk during the halftime break.

00:26:38.930 --> 00:26:40.710
And then we'll start up again at the start of

00:26:40.710 --> 00:26:42.390
the second half because we want this to be about

00:26:42.390 --> 00:26:45.730
a 90 -minute episode and not like a four -hour

00:26:45.730 --> 00:26:51.029
episode. But I'm bad at math. So just be aware

00:26:51.029 --> 00:26:53.150
of that. So those of you listening and want to

00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:54.869
play around, there are three minutes of added

00:26:54.869 --> 00:27:01.890
time. And, yeah, so how are you feeling about

00:27:01.890 --> 00:27:07.309
this first half? Not good. I mean, I was feeling

00:27:07.309 --> 00:27:10.930
positive until that goal scored. I mean, it again

00:27:10.930 --> 00:27:13.950
feels like missed opportunities, but we're the

00:27:13.950 --> 00:27:17.750
better team, and yet here we are again trailing.

00:27:19.670 --> 00:27:23.430
And I don't know. We don't have a super sub off

00:27:23.430 --> 00:27:25.049
the bench right now, do we? I think everyone

00:27:25.049 --> 00:27:29.190
who's... Georgie, Paul, and Danny. I mean, those

00:27:29.190 --> 00:27:30.789
aren't super subs to me. Those are just subs.

00:27:31.170 --> 00:27:35.710
No, I get it. You can't sub in a Jesus Ferreira

00:27:35.710 --> 00:27:38.609
or a Jordan Morris or a Ryan Kent off the bench.

00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:44.710
Yeah. I mean, it would be nice, but it's just

00:27:44.710 --> 00:27:48.640
there's... Perhaps our bench is deeper than their

00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.740
bench because of the sickness, because of the

00:27:50.740 --> 00:27:52.700
people that are gone. So that will keep us better.

00:27:52.700 --> 00:27:54.279
I was going to say, let's get down with the sickness.

00:27:55.539 --> 00:27:59.559
Okay. Yeah, you must be a little behind again

00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.240
because... What's your time shot? 46 .17. Oh,

00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:10.019
yeah, yeah. I'm 46 .27 now. What? Now you're

00:28:10.019 --> 00:28:12.740
ahead. We'll get it together at halftime. I just

00:28:12.740 --> 00:28:15.299
fast forward. We have new who with a chance here

00:28:15.299 --> 00:28:18.019
to kind of oof. And then he just went flying

00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:20.559
out. So he didn't get the ball where he wanted

00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.059
it. That's probably, well, we have another minute

00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:25.619
and a half, but I mean, before we go on our break

00:28:25.619 --> 00:28:28.799
here. And again, look at this new, who is getting

00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:33.569
himself in deep. Is that what he should be doing,

00:28:33.609 --> 00:28:35.789
though? I mean, I don't know if those are the

00:28:35.789 --> 00:28:37.549
coach's orders, but I do know. He's creating

00:28:37.549 --> 00:28:41.430
opportunity. I can't complain. But then we're

00:28:41.430 --> 00:28:44.650
vulnerable at defense. I do know that our GM

00:28:44.650 --> 00:28:47.829
said that his main job these days is to watch

00:28:47.829 --> 00:28:50.569
the above camera and just make sure that our

00:28:50.569 --> 00:28:53.190
left back stays back and doesn't get out of position.

00:28:53.410 --> 00:28:56.390
And so to me, unless he's been told to do that,

00:28:56.490 --> 00:28:59.630
as of a week ago. He's out of position this entire

00:28:59.630 --> 00:29:06.710
game. So that is worrisome to me. We'll see what

00:29:06.710 --> 00:29:10.910
happens though. I will say he's had two great

00:29:10.910 --> 00:29:14.170
runs that have led to mediocre crosses that if

00:29:14.170 --> 00:29:16.190
they were on target would have scored goals.

00:29:16.710 --> 00:29:19.269
That's not his fault. He's a back. He's not a

00:29:19.269 --> 00:29:22.180
winger. Well, I mean, he did just hit them, but

00:29:22.180 --> 00:29:24.240
he hit them with a lot of pace. Too much pace.

00:29:24.380 --> 00:29:26.859
Too much pace and then hit the wrong play. I

00:29:26.859 --> 00:29:29.779
mean, Russ Snack said, I want it here. Currently,

00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:34.220
Sounders' possession is 68 % possession, which

00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:36.319
about tracks with what I'm seeing on the field.

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.940
Does it got XG on there? This one does, and currently

00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:47.180
the XG is .53 to .5 in favor of Vancouver. I

00:29:47.180 --> 00:29:49.359
think that's fair since they did score the goal.

00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:50.680
If they hadn't, I would have thought that would

00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.019
be a little over the top. But, yeah, they scored

00:29:55.019 --> 00:29:57.579
at the time they needed to, and we're not seeing

00:29:57.579 --> 00:29:59.140
that yet from the Sounders. But we've got 45

00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:02.299
more minutes to do this. So, Aaron, you have

00:30:02.299 --> 00:30:04.180
any words on the first half before we take a

00:30:04.180 --> 00:30:08.319
break? Balls to the wall. Let's just go balls

00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.279
to the wall. I'm just tired of seeing the same

00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.599
stuff. I mean, that's an awkward thing, but I'm

00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:17.980
not going to kink shame you. Time to be succinct.

00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.880
Is that like Blair Witch style? Should I be facing

00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.779
the wall? Yes. Let me go get another beer and

00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:30.079
check on my baby who's crying. And I'll see you

00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.220
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-N dot C -O -M. Now back to your regularly scheduled

00:32:15.500 --> 00:32:29.920
programming. So I feel a lot better at halftime.

00:32:30.579 --> 00:32:35.500
I feel a lot better now. Nicholas and I, while

00:32:35.500 --> 00:32:38.680
Aaron was away and is now covered in liquid?

00:32:38.900 --> 00:32:41.319
What's going on? That would be baby spit. Oh,

00:32:41.339 --> 00:32:43.759
cool. That would be baby spit. It's liquid. As

00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.640
we're about to kick off here in the second half.

00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:50.500
Speaking of liquid. We did a Portland sucks chant,

00:32:50.619 --> 00:32:53.779
and now we just feel way better. Oh, man. I miss

00:32:53.779 --> 00:32:57.440
that. Kickoff for me was right there. I'm a few

00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:58.920
seconds ahead of you. What's your timestamp?

00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.359
45 .07. Okay, I'm going to pause for five seconds.

00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:12.160
45 .14. Halftime, they talked about the Sounders

00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.420
were ball -watching on that goal, and that was

00:33:15.420 --> 00:33:20.059
only the second assist from the player who got

00:33:20.059 --> 00:33:23.720
that assist, and the goal scorer is a young 19

00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.269
-year -old who has come up. uh, through their

00:33:26.269 --> 00:33:28.970
system since he was 13. So, you know, from that

00:33:28.970 --> 00:33:31.970
perspective, if you're not a Sounders fan, it's

00:33:31.970 --> 00:33:35.250
a, it's a pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, as long

00:33:35.250 --> 00:33:37.349
as this doesn't turn into their version of the

00:33:37.349 --> 00:33:41.569
Austin game a few years ago. Yeah. Which right

00:33:41.569 --> 00:33:43.650
now that's the best analogy I can come up with.

00:33:44.390 --> 00:33:47.109
Yeah. This is their, their Austin game. Okay.

00:33:47.170 --> 00:33:49.049
Now with that in mind, I do want to acknowledge,

00:33:49.230 --> 00:33:53.369
um, round the town scoreboards. Chicago scored

00:33:53.369 --> 00:33:56.670
seven against D .C. United. Now that's impressive

00:33:56.670 --> 00:34:00.390
in its own. I mean, that's impressive enough.

00:34:00.589 --> 00:34:03.789
But earlier in the season, they got beat seven

00:34:03.789 --> 00:34:08.670
to two to Nashville. My question is. And both

00:34:08.670 --> 00:34:11.530
of those games were in Chicago. So if you're

00:34:11.530 --> 00:34:13.590
a Chicago Fire fan, you've got to be like, what

00:34:13.590 --> 00:34:15.190
am I going to see? Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Both

00:34:15.190 --> 00:34:19.670
those games were on the road. But my bigger point

00:34:19.670 --> 00:34:22.210
is, has that ever happened in a season where

00:34:22.210 --> 00:34:26.710
a team has given up and scored a seven spot in

00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:29.989
the same season? I mean, we scored seven on San

00:34:29.989 --> 00:34:33.170
Jose. Did we give up seven? I think our biggest

00:34:33.170 --> 00:34:37.170
loss is five goals. I don't know if anyone's

00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:40.510
ever scored six on us. Yeah, I can't recall that.

00:34:41.110 --> 00:34:44.570
I don't recall that either. But then again, if

00:34:44.570 --> 00:34:46.590
that happened, we probably wouldn't be able to

00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:49.730
recall it. Yeah, what's the difference between

00:34:49.730 --> 00:34:52.210
five or seven at that point, I feel like? Ask

00:34:52.210 --> 00:34:57.369
the Germans. That was a very, very painful match.

00:34:57.869 --> 00:35:00.230
You're wearing – oh, yeah, never mind. I'm like,

00:35:00.269 --> 00:35:01.570
wait, you're wearing – The Germans won. I know.

00:35:01.730 --> 00:35:05.550
I realize. Oh, man. Oh, that should be a red

00:35:05.550 --> 00:35:10.690
card. That definitely – So 47 -17 for me. Yep,

00:35:10.710 --> 00:35:12.690
you're right with us. It's ahead of us, yeah.

00:35:12.909 --> 00:35:16.230
Obed just got taken down. No card is shown. Absolutely

00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:18.949
crushed. No yellow card. It might have just looked

00:35:18.949 --> 00:35:21.489
worse, especially from our angle from behind.

00:35:21.590 --> 00:35:27.579
Oh, Pedro fighting through. Oh, man. You can

00:35:27.579 --> 00:35:29.900
see Ryan was ready to just volley that. Here's

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:34.219
the thing. Between De La Vega, Ryan Kent, knew

00:35:34.219 --> 00:35:37.059
who this match. This is still the same shit we

00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:45.960
always see. In what way? Possession, crosses,

00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:48.880
bounces around, gets kicked back out, but nothing

00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:53.260
actually. We'll have one or two. Obed just drilling.

00:35:54.889 --> 00:35:58.550
De La Vega with a deflected shot. So here's the

00:35:58.550 --> 00:36:01.269
thing. Here's the way I see it. I see it the

00:36:01.269 --> 00:36:04.929
same way we look at Danny Masovsky in the first

00:36:04.929 --> 00:36:07.190
part of the season, where I'm like, he keeps

00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:09.389
putting himself in good positions. Things will

00:36:09.389 --> 00:36:14.449
happen. So, I mean, we're a full season. We're

00:36:14.449 --> 00:36:17.090
a half season done, and things are not happening.

00:36:17.150 --> 00:36:20.389
I think, yeah, that's more my sentiment. It comes

00:36:20.389 --> 00:36:22.829
in spurts. We're doing the right thing. It's

00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:25.730
just there's no actual production from it. It

00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:28.550
seems to be always falling the wrong way when

00:36:28.550 --> 00:36:34.449
the cross comes in or the shot is taken. So...

00:36:34.449 --> 00:36:37.889
I mean... And we're getting some results. I mean,

00:36:37.909 --> 00:36:39.670
obviously, we just lost our last match, but we

00:36:39.670 --> 00:36:43.449
had a May the Points Be With Us episode, right?

00:36:44.309 --> 00:36:46.829
It's just not as exciting as I'd like it to see.

00:36:46.929 --> 00:36:49.409
We've talked about that. We were not dominating

00:36:49.409 --> 00:36:51.210
those games. We were winning some of them on

00:36:51.210 --> 00:36:54.150
flukes. We were... And you have to. There's those

00:36:54.150 --> 00:36:55.929
games throughout the season. I think the problem

00:36:55.929 --> 00:36:58.110
is that it's consistently... It's a lockup of

00:36:58.110 --> 00:37:02.969
identity. Well, in the Western Conference, we

00:37:02.969 --> 00:37:08.610
are right around the middle as far as goals scored

00:37:08.610 --> 00:37:12.630
with 25. San Jose's leading with 34. Austin's

00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:17.079
down with 13. We've got one, two, three, four,

00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:21.199
five, six, seven, seven teams below us. So we're

00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.619
kind of right middle of the pack with that. Same

00:37:24.619 --> 00:37:26.400
thing in the East. You know, we'd be right in

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.340
that middle of the pack. So we're a middle table

00:37:29.340 --> 00:37:32.780
goal scoring team. That's just where we are right

00:37:32.780 --> 00:37:35.539
now. But with our mediocre defense, we have to

00:37:35.539 --> 00:37:38.239
be top of table. Goal scoring team. Well, it's

00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.260
funny you bring that up because as far as goals

00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:42.860
allowed, we're actually towards the top. We've

00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:47.519
only allowed 22 goals. There are only four teams

00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.699
in the Western Conference. Sorry, I got hiccups

00:37:51.699 --> 00:37:53.199
suddenly. Four teams in the Western Conference

00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.739
who have allowed less goals than us. So it's

00:37:57.739 --> 00:38:02.059
just our confirmation bias here. It looks like

00:38:02.059 --> 00:38:04.960
Ryan Kent took a ball to the face or got sun.

00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:08.860
I think that's just his. Yeah, he just gave up

00:38:08.860 --> 00:38:12.059
the ball. That's just his ready English running.

00:38:12.619 --> 00:38:17.659
The ruby cheeks. Yeah. Or he's just embarrassed

00:38:17.659 --> 00:38:20.619
because he keeps giving the ball up. I think

00:38:20.619 --> 00:38:26.199
that's other than his little four match. I mean,

00:38:26.219 --> 00:38:29.579
only 22 % of our wins are at home. I mean, excuse

00:38:29.579 --> 00:38:32.159
me, on the road. A third of our draws on the

00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.360
road, 44 % of our losses. Our XG on the road

00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:39.539
is 1 .56. It's 1 .99 at home. Our XG against

00:38:39.539 --> 00:38:44.900
is 1 .37 away and it's 1 .2 at home. So the deal

00:38:44.900 --> 00:38:48.559
here is on the road, there's a huge discrepancy

00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.820
and still our XG is higher. Oh, geez. Yeah, you

00:38:52.820 --> 00:38:54.840
have to do that there. But as long as it's not

00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.280
dog, so. No, it's a yellow card, but there was

00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.099
mother men back. Oh, they just gave him the dog.

00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.449
It's a red card. I don't agree with that. I don't

00:39:02.449 --> 00:39:04.210
agree with that either. When you're way over

00:39:04.210 --> 00:39:08.670
on the right side, that seems surprising. But,

00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:13.570
you know, you've got to try and stop him without

00:39:13.570 --> 00:39:15.750
pulling him down if it is dog. So that's a huge,

00:39:15.849 --> 00:39:21.849
huge mistake. Let's see here. So Nuhu is beat

00:39:21.849 --> 00:39:26.539
wide. He's running after the ball. Oh, that's

00:39:26.539 --> 00:39:29.219
Dogso for sure. That is a terrible from Nuhu.

00:39:30.179 --> 00:39:32.300
He's got to know what's going on around him.

00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.880
Even though there are other players over on the

00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.400
left side. They're way back, though. They're

00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.780
10, 15 yards back. He's going to have a one -on

00:39:40.780 --> 00:39:42.360
-one with the keeper right there. That's a clear

00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.599
Dogso. That's some of the most poor play we've

00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.099
seen from Nuhu in his career. He's had a game

00:39:50.099 --> 00:39:58.920
today. Well, this is the second time, and I wasn't

00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.980
involved in the first time we did a record while

00:40:01.980 --> 00:40:05.699
we watch. That one didn't go terribly well either,

00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:10.420
did it? They haven't yet. But the odds are against

00:40:10.420 --> 00:40:13.179
us anyways because road games inherently are

00:40:13.179 --> 00:40:21.219
tougher to win. I don't know. I mean, when you

00:40:21.219 --> 00:40:24.460
have players that are as bad as New Who. I mean,

00:40:24.460 --> 00:40:27.659
he's provided us nothing offensively, dangerous

00:40:27.659 --> 00:40:30.239
chances, terrible. I mean, his one job is to

00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.199
play defense. What are we going to do? We're

00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.719
screwed. Now we're going to have to go all in.

00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.760
Actually, I kind of like that idea. You know,

00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.880
of all the games, this is the kind of game where

00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.719
we can get a result down a man because we've

00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:52.260
got to commit to attacking. I agree. putting

00:40:52.260 --> 00:40:54.260
your team in this position is just absolutely

00:40:54.260 --> 00:40:56.659
poor. Oh, it's poor, poor decision -making altogether.

00:40:57.340 --> 00:41:01.500
Like the way. Yeah. How we got here is how we

00:41:01.500 --> 00:41:04.760
got here is not. Yeah. That's a foul. And that's

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.460
a goal. Nope. It's a foul. He called the foul.

00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.719
We call it. He called the foul. Okay, good. I

00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:11.579
don't like that foul. I think the, um, I will

00:41:11.579 --> 00:41:13.139
have to see the replay. I think they give it

00:41:13.139 --> 00:41:15.579
to goalies too often, but I'm glad in this. I'm

00:41:15.579 --> 00:41:17.639
pretty sure he got hit in the chest with his

00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:19.659
arms raised, getting the, going for the ball,

00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:22.679
but he's going towards the. player and he's so

00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:24.519
he's going through the player in my yeah let's

00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:29.360
see arms up yeah no i mean that what the the

00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.860
player there for vancouver is every right to

00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:34.179
play that ball i they're going to call that every

00:41:34.179 --> 00:41:36.139
time but it's because they're over protective

00:41:36.139 --> 00:41:38.179
of goalies and they need to reset that because

00:41:38.179 --> 00:41:41.519
i think it's a very poor um oh my god that was

00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:45.480
bad uh giveaway by de la vega they're immediately

00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.239
giving vancouver a chance to shoot on goal um

00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:51.900
I just hate that they protect goalies in a way

00:41:51.900 --> 00:41:54.440
where that, that, that offensive player had every

00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.260
right to play for that ball. And that's clearly

00:41:56.260 --> 00:41:58.840
what they're looking back, looking at here. Like,

00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.199
no, that's a foul on that's a foul on fry. Yeah.

00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:04.780
Yeah. That should have play on. I'm agreeing

00:42:04.780 --> 00:42:08.760
with you after I see the replay, but if a keeper

00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.500
has his arms rates hand in contact with ball

00:42:11.500 --> 00:42:14.239
and then gets hit in the chest, if, which I thought

00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.250
I saw, I would think that's not. like being overly

00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:21.050
protective of the keeper. That's the only way

00:42:21.050 --> 00:42:24.349
he can do his job. They can do their job, right?

00:42:24.429 --> 00:42:26.429
It's just they're reaching up to get the ball

00:42:26.429 --> 00:42:29.329
and to get hit underneath. Oh my God. Are we

00:42:29.329 --> 00:42:33.329
going to get another dog? So you kidding me?

00:42:34.230 --> 00:42:37.130
Got another dog. So is it ready card honeymoon?

00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:42.210
Another dog. So on us, Jonathan Bell, I was too

00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:45.530
busy being angry that. He looked like he cut

00:42:45.530 --> 00:42:47.690
behind the player that got in front of him and

00:42:47.690 --> 00:42:55.550
their feet got tangled up. Although... You gotta

00:42:55.550 --> 00:42:57.429
know where your feet are, I guess, right? I'm

00:42:57.429 --> 00:43:00.369
sorry. At some point, this just comes down on

00:43:00.369 --> 00:43:02.469
the coaching staff. This is a half season of

00:43:02.469 --> 00:43:07.489
this bullshit. Onside. And you got Christian

00:43:07.489 --> 00:43:10.409
right there. Yeah, Christian's there. That's

00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:13.400
not Dogso. That's not. He touched his arm. He

00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.739
didn't pull it. His, their feet got tangled.

00:43:16.980 --> 00:43:19.219
Their feet got tangled. Oh, their feet got tangled.

00:43:19.260 --> 00:43:22.559
And he, I mean, okay. I was looking at the other

00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.219
part. Yeah. I mean, that's a foul. It's a yellow.

00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.699
That's not a dog. So they need to go to VAR on

00:43:27.699 --> 00:43:30.139
that. I don't even know if it's a yellow. I mean,

00:43:30.139 --> 00:43:32.420
I mean, I mean, it is because of the position

00:43:32.420 --> 00:43:36.599
behind. Yeah. But like it's, that was clearly

00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.190
incidental. That was definitely a foul. It doesn't

00:43:40.190 --> 00:43:42.130
matter. You can't do that when a guy's running

00:43:42.130 --> 00:43:43.889
in front of you. I agree. You're going to reach

00:43:43.889 --> 00:43:50.489
for the back pocket. I mean, I'm going to say

00:43:50.489 --> 00:43:53.750
it. To me, this is, as much as I don't want the

00:43:53.750 --> 00:43:55.329
Sounders to perform in the Club World Cup because

00:43:55.329 --> 00:43:57.630
I don't want anyone to get hurt, if we perform

00:43:57.630 --> 00:44:00.030
as poorly in the Club World Cup, I do not want

00:44:00.030 --> 00:44:01.969
Brian Schmetzer back as the coach when we are

00:44:01.969 --> 00:44:03.469
on the other side of this because this is fucking

00:44:03.469 --> 00:44:06.760
ridiculous. This is a half season. of some of

00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.159
the worst Sounders performances we've seen versus

00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:14.619
the quality of player on the field. I'm sorry.

00:44:14.940 --> 00:44:20.079
I'm not going to go that hyperbolic. That's not

00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.159
hyperbolic. Hyperbole would be firing right the

00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.639
fuck now. That was on the field right now. That's

00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.719
me having a rational opinion being like, this

00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:31.679
is unacceptable. This is happening time and time

00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:33.619
again, not all red cards. We're finding ways

00:44:33.619 --> 00:44:36.079
to lose games. It's like we're watching the Seattle

00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.679
Mariners. It's just disgusting. The Sounders

00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:50.340
are better than this. Yeah. We're really only

00:44:50.340 --> 00:44:53.460
down when you think about it. We've had the same

00:44:53.460 --> 00:44:57.019
injuries everyone gets. Paul Areola has been

00:44:57.019 --> 00:45:00.860
the biggest gut punch. But then you bring in

00:45:00.860 --> 00:45:04.920
Ryan Kent and we've had him for a month and a

00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:06.820
half. I mean, that's the problem is he hasn't

00:45:06.820 --> 00:45:08.179
played for so long. They're saying that like,

00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:09.840
he's going to have his ups and downs because

00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.119
for sure. And I'm not, I'm not, I'm still happy

00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:14.199
with the signing, but I'm just, I'm just not

00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:18.340
giving the injury bug anymore. It's half a season.

00:45:19.260 --> 00:45:21.800
Like that's just not even an excuse anymore.

00:45:22.139 --> 00:45:24.300
Yeah. Do we get a different result? Well, Jordan

00:45:24.300 --> 00:45:26.980
Morris, I don't think is his goals. He hasn't.

00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:31.800
Well, he was frustrating to begin with, not producing.

00:45:32.099 --> 00:45:36.500
And sure, maybe not having the pairing we have

00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:38.219
in the back there helps a little bit, but it

00:45:38.219 --> 00:45:41.500
doesn't help that much. Nuhu gave up the goal

00:45:41.500 --> 00:45:44.639
here. A Bell -Reagan pairing is not terrible.

00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:49.579
Bell, though, yeah. Bell has been exposed the

00:45:49.579 --> 00:45:51.179
last two matches, unfortunately. He had a really

00:45:51.179 --> 00:45:53.780
great season overall, but I think you've seen

00:45:53.780 --> 00:45:56.619
him. And I don't know if he's trying to make

00:45:56.619 --> 00:45:59.179
up for what's happening elsewhere, but you've

00:45:59.179 --> 00:46:02.820
seen him do things a few times that were surprising.

00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:04.340
And I don't know how that didn't go to the AR.

00:46:05.260 --> 00:46:08.519
Yeah, that should have gotten, I agree. Because

00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:11.179
you had Christian right there. That shouldn't

00:46:11.179 --> 00:46:13.500
have been Doxo, unless it wasn't a red for Doxo.

00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.159
Maybe it was a red, straight red for tackling

00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.280
from behind. With the feet that, yeah. I mean,

00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.119
it was tangled though. It wasn't like he swung

00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:26.739
at it. So I'd be surprised, but. It just seems

00:46:26.739 --> 00:46:30.739
I don't understand that call. Bit harsh. Bit

00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:37.219
harsh. But I kind of would rather see some chaos

00:46:37.219 --> 00:46:40.579
right now. Here we go. He's going to pull the

00:46:40.579 --> 00:46:45.289
ball back. Wait for everybody. Oh, my God. He's

00:46:45.289 --> 00:46:47.630
not fast enough. He passes it all the way back

00:46:47.630 --> 00:46:49.190
to the other side of the field. I understand.

00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:52.050
It's just so frustrating to watch. But why don't

00:46:52.050 --> 00:46:54.809
we have any players forward? Because we have

00:46:54.809 --> 00:46:59.170
nine players. Who cares if we lose 20 -0? At

00:46:59.170 --> 00:47:01.949
least try to score a goal at this point. To be

00:47:01.949 --> 00:47:03.090
fair, it is actually one goal. When it's a one

00:47:03.090 --> 00:47:07.349
-goal game, you've got to pick your spots. I

00:47:07.349 --> 00:47:09.210
agree with that. You can get a free kick or a

00:47:09.210 --> 00:47:10.329
corner. I don't have a problem with them not

00:47:10.329 --> 00:47:13.400
following Jesus up there. Why didn't any players

00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.400
come once Jesus stopped the ball? Like two players

00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:16.980
came up and the rest of them were on the back

00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:22.340
half of the field. When Ryan Kent is playing

00:47:22.340 --> 00:47:28.019
poorly, I'm going to play a game with Ryan Kent's

00:47:28.019 --> 00:47:29.940
last name. We shouldn't give him a different

00:47:29.940 --> 00:47:33.159
last name based on a city of the King or Pierce

00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:36.400
County region for based on the performance he's

00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:42.139
having. So what would Ryan Federal Way be? Would

00:47:42.139 --> 00:47:45.400
that be he's playing... I guess it's technically

00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.719
King County. I said Pierce and King. Oh. We're

00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.079
not talking about that. Is Kenton King or Pierce?

00:47:53.940 --> 00:48:01.440
Kenton King. Yeah. I mean, yeah. He's definitely

00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:07.599
Bothell. Ryan Bothell. Why? Because Bothell sucks.

00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.559
No. I'm just wanting to make fun of cities. It

00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:18.780
seems over... I don't know. I don't think it

00:48:18.780 --> 00:48:22.199
sucks, but you're not worth anything. You're

00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.300
a suburban kid, though. For me, growing up in

00:48:24.300 --> 00:48:28.179
the city... I'm a suburban kid? Yeah, you grew

00:48:28.179 --> 00:48:30.380
up on some island. I spent three years on an

00:48:30.380 --> 00:48:32.019
island, and then I lived in downtown Seattle

00:48:32.019 --> 00:48:34.699
my entire life. Yeah, suburban kid. I grew up

00:48:34.699 --> 00:48:36.920
in the city. First in university is not suburban.

00:48:36.940 --> 00:48:40.769
Outside of Renton's okay. Outside of Renton,

00:48:40.909 --> 00:48:43.449
I think everything else is pretty much garbage.

00:48:45.630 --> 00:48:48.670
I like Bellevue Square now. Not now, when I was

00:48:48.670 --> 00:48:51.409
a kid. I was going to say, not now. Not now,

00:48:51.570 --> 00:48:54.590
but they had a good old Orange Julius there.

00:48:57.030 --> 00:49:00.190
Why don't we get some mailbag questions here?

00:49:01.289 --> 00:49:03.869
It's turning into one of those. Yeah, we can

00:49:03.869 --> 00:49:08.389
always do it early. I think the questions that

00:49:08.389 --> 00:49:12.650
we have were related to this match. Did someone

00:49:12.650 --> 00:49:14.170
ask how many red cards we'd get in this match?

00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:18.210
Is that on the prediction sheet? No, but recently

00:49:18.210 --> 00:49:22.730
Tim Hamilton did post most ridiculous red cards

00:49:22.730 --> 00:49:28.119
in MLS. Yeah. Well, I don't think either of these

00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.920
would be an argument for maybe a wrong call.

00:49:31.059 --> 00:49:33.860
I mean, it was close for number two. Yeah. Well,

00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:35.639
I think that I would say that second call was

00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.219
terrible. That was one of the worst calls I've

00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:40.659
seen on the season. How do you give a red card?

00:49:40.739 --> 00:49:42.940
I mean, Christian is literally standing right

00:49:42.940 --> 00:49:45.559
next to them. That's not Dogso. He could just

00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:47.480
step over and block the ball. It was a horrible

00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.800
mistake by Bell. But unless you're giving a red

00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.519
card for taking someone down from behind, which

00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.940
that was not what happened. i don't know how

00:49:54.940 --> 00:49:57.239
you don't go to var we didn't see a lot of replays

00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:02.099
of it did we i definitely they showed two yeah

00:50:02.099 --> 00:50:06.780
it's so dan the bastard says it's pretty clear

00:50:06.780 --> 00:50:08.940
vancouver watch some tape drop players low give

00:50:08.940 --> 00:50:11.250
sounders possession and then counter This happens

00:50:11.250 --> 00:50:13.349
a lot. Why do we struggle so much against this?

00:50:13.510 --> 00:50:15.590
Players or tactics? For one, I would like to

00:50:15.590 --> 00:50:17.530
see an attacking movement that isn't across from

00:50:17.530 --> 00:50:20.110
the prime assist zone to the box with five white

00:50:20.110 --> 00:50:22.210
cap shirts and one sounder shirt. Yes, Dan. At

00:50:22.210 --> 00:50:23.969
the same time, I don't know who on this roster

00:50:23.969 --> 00:50:27.070
can do anything else. And to me, therein lies

00:50:27.070 --> 00:50:28.750
the problem. Schmetzer likes a specific type

00:50:28.750 --> 00:50:35.449
of player. And our players don't always fit what

00:50:35.449 --> 00:50:37.920
they're being asked to do. The things that, like,

00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:41.400
what Dan asked there for, Rusnak can do, I think.

00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.360
But we don't see that because they play it through

00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.000
the wings. Yeah, if we had a Clint Dempsey and

00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.460
an Oba in front of Rusnak, can you imagine if

00:50:49.460 --> 00:50:53.360
Albert was playing with Clint and an Oba? Yeah.

00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:58.079
That would be fun. It would be incredible. I

00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:59.900
mean, what about you, Nick? What's your thoughts

00:50:59.900 --> 00:51:02.280
on that? Like, is this personnel? Is it coaching?

00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:05.250
Is it both? Is this another disconnect between

00:51:05.250 --> 00:51:09.409
GM and coach like we had in the past with Garth

00:51:09.409 --> 00:51:11.710
and the players we're bringing in are being forced

00:51:11.710 --> 00:51:14.510
into positions they don't fit? What's going on?

00:51:14.650 --> 00:51:19.409
Is it dementia? I don't know. I think that it's

00:51:19.409 --> 00:51:25.789
not as easy to just make the simple answer right

00:51:25.789 --> 00:51:28.530
there. It's just a simple, Jesus, Obed really

00:51:28.530 --> 00:51:33.420
staying on things. Basically, you should be getting

00:51:33.420 --> 00:51:35.599
a yellow. Yeah, you definitely need a card there.

00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:43.900
But again, it's easy in the heat of the moment

00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:46.199
to get frustrated about this particular situation.

00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.659
I mean, I don't think Dan's in the heat of the

00:51:50.659 --> 00:51:52.639
moment there. This is something he's been consistently

00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.380
saying and Aaron and I have been consistently

00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:57.619
saying that what we're doing isn't working. So

00:51:57.619 --> 00:52:00.219
he's saying, why can't we try something else?

00:52:00.730 --> 00:52:02.829
is it that it won't our players can't do that

00:52:02.829 --> 00:52:04.750
is that our coaches refuse to do that that's

00:52:04.750 --> 00:52:07.530
the question why are we sticking with something

00:52:07.530 --> 00:52:11.389
that clearly burns us every time and we have

00:52:11.389 --> 00:52:16.329
no answer for on offense and defense i feel like

00:52:16.329 --> 00:52:18.869
that's a little hyperbolic to say because because

00:52:18.869 --> 00:52:24.989
it's it's not a you know it's not happening all

00:52:24.989 --> 00:52:28.690
the time you know but when it does happen the

00:52:28.690 --> 00:52:32.070
results are quite ugly. This one is different

00:52:32.070 --> 00:52:36.789
because it's 1 -0, and the one goal came before

00:52:36.789 --> 00:52:40.750
the two red cards. I think there's an explanation,

00:52:41.030 --> 00:52:43.469
and I'm not attacking you specifically, but I

00:52:43.469 --> 00:52:45.230
think if you look at every single match, there's

00:52:45.230 --> 00:52:48.489
an explanation for why the result was that way.

00:52:48.809 --> 00:52:53.369
And it's not quite as it seems. When really you

00:52:53.369 --> 00:52:55.190
step back 30 ,000 feet, we're halfway through

00:52:55.190 --> 00:52:58.769
the season, and... It does seem exactly that

00:52:58.769 --> 00:53:01.409
way. There are defensive gaffes that give up

00:53:01.409 --> 00:53:03.389
the goals, but generally the defense plays pretty

00:53:03.389 --> 00:53:06.789
well. We lead the league in crosses, but we have

00:53:06.789 --> 00:53:11.210
the worst conversion. And we cannot seem to pass

00:53:11.210 --> 00:53:13.349
through the middle of the field into the goal.

00:53:13.630 --> 00:53:16.590
We just pass around the middle of the field.

00:53:17.849 --> 00:53:21.409
And then you sub in Minugu, and then that just

00:53:21.409 --> 00:53:26.210
blows up any game plan. the field tilts to, to

00:53:26.210 --> 00:53:29.650
Manugu. And Jordan doesn't play like Jordan is

00:53:29.650 --> 00:53:32.110
fast enough that he should be running at, at

00:53:32.110 --> 00:53:35.909
defenders. I don't think he's fast enough anymore.

00:53:36.949 --> 00:53:39.309
I mean, he's even injured. He's still faster.

00:53:39.409 --> 00:53:41.369
No, I just mean in general, I think he's, I think

00:53:41.369 --> 00:53:43.769
he's faster. I think he's got bursts, but I don't

00:53:43.769 --> 00:53:46.150
think he can consistently, I think he, he, his,

00:53:46.309 --> 00:53:49.670
he went from a hard tire to a soft tire. He can,

00:53:49.789 --> 00:53:52.929
you know what I mean? Like he could be fast for

00:53:52.929 --> 00:53:58.980
longer. younger how's that not too newton i mean

00:53:58.980 --> 00:54:01.820
he grabbed ross i mean the ball maybe being on

00:54:01.820 --> 00:54:04.460
the other side prevented it but he grabbed rothrock

00:54:04.460 --> 00:54:06.380
as rothrock was running towards the goal took

00:54:06.380 --> 00:54:09.559
him down from behind that was way more egregious

00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:12.960
than the john bell than the john bell one the

00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:14.880
difference being the ball was on the other side

00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.519
so john bells wasn't you could question whether

00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.550
or not that he could have recovered it yeah Well,

00:54:20.570 --> 00:54:23.730
anyway, I don't think Jordan's got the stamina

00:54:23.730 --> 00:54:28.889
or the gas to be a sprinter. He's also never

00:54:28.889 --> 00:54:33.570
done that, though. When he was 19, 20, 21, he

00:54:33.570 --> 00:54:35.909
was. He wasn't a forward then. He was doing it

00:54:35.909 --> 00:54:37.670
on the wing. He's never done it as a forward

00:54:37.670 --> 00:54:40.710
where he has run at the defense from the center

00:54:40.710 --> 00:54:43.570
in a way that can create through balls through

00:54:43.570 --> 00:54:45.880
the center. That's just never been his game.

00:54:46.019 --> 00:54:48.000
And I don't, with his skillset, I don't understand

00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.460
why it has. Yeah. And I'm just, I'm concerned.

00:54:50.579 --> 00:54:52.420
It's the same coach the whole time. So maybe

00:54:52.420 --> 00:54:54.420
that's why I don't know. That's what I think.

00:54:54.460 --> 00:54:57.480
That's the question. Is this by design or is

00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:01.559
this something that. Cause we, we play from the

00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:03.820
wings. This is what we do, but what we're seeing

00:55:03.820 --> 00:55:06.760
this year is it's not working the same. We play

00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.679
from the wings, but our best wingers have been.

00:55:11.469 --> 00:55:14.949
This is really crazy watching the buildup from

00:55:14.949 --> 00:55:18.650
the Sounders right now with nine players is they

00:55:18.650 --> 00:55:22.730
are, the gaps between players is much more pronounced

00:55:22.730 --> 00:55:25.150
than usual. And it's really interesting that

00:55:25.150 --> 00:55:26.670
they're still holding possession. It might be

00:55:26.670 --> 00:55:28.429
a good thing. I mean, it actually looks, they

00:55:28.429 --> 00:55:31.469
look better. Yeah. We're moving the ball in a

00:55:31.469 --> 00:55:34.070
way they were unable to do before they were down

00:55:34.070 --> 00:55:37.159
two men. And usually you do see that with one

00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.079
man. How's that not a foul? That actually did

00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:40.880
look like a foul. I know we're going to ask for

00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:46.360
it right there, but that would be 67 -50 on the

00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.400
time. Is that Rothrock? I mean, he's still down.

00:55:49.820 --> 00:55:52.059
And then, of course, he calls it the other way

00:55:52.059 --> 00:55:56.360
on a ball that I don't think was a foul. We'll

00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:59.019
see the replay right here as he goes to check

00:55:59.019 --> 00:56:00.679
on him. But there's no reason to check on him,

00:56:00.699 --> 00:56:04.039
really. Oh, Jesus. That's not good from Rothrock.

00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.360
I mean, I think he just got stepped on. Yeah,

00:56:08.460 --> 00:56:12.360
he's fine. Look at the XG. MLS now has Vancouver

00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.119
at 0 .98 and us at 0 .75, despite them leading

00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.920
1 -0. I think that's fair. We're going to win

00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:23.340
this game. We definitely can tie it. It's a fucking

00:56:23.340 --> 00:56:28.239
bonkers game. What I think is too often in the

00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:32.239
Sounders, results cover up our poor performances.

00:56:33.780 --> 00:56:37.280
I think... If you actually looked, I mean, look

00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:42.039
how far we made it last year. I think what we

00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:47.099
saw was clear problems, and we didn't fix the

00:56:47.099 --> 00:56:49.199
problems like we hoped they would. I think we

00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.500
tried to, but then injuries prevented it. And

00:56:51.500 --> 00:56:54.440
so maybe it's not fair for this season, but we

00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:57.440
still have some other problems. I mean, Areola,

00:56:57.500 --> 00:56:59.480
I don't think Areola fixes what's going on here,

00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:01.440
despite having the best cross in the league from

00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.659
what we've seen. I don't know. I think that...

00:57:04.010 --> 00:57:06.769
One, it's easy for us to look at it just from

00:57:06.769 --> 00:57:10.789
a myopic Sounders -only point of view where every

00:57:10.789 --> 00:57:13.150
team's going to have rough patches, they're going

00:57:13.150 --> 00:57:17.389
to have rough games. I feel like there's a contingency

00:57:17.389 --> 00:57:22.369
of us that want to immediately jump to the idea

00:57:22.369 --> 00:57:27.489
that things are doom and gloom when I don't think

00:57:27.489 --> 00:57:31.849
that's exactly the case. We're in fifth place

00:57:31.849 --> 00:57:37.429
and about to drop further. And we're not better

00:57:37.429 --> 00:57:39.309
than that. The stats bear out. That's where we

00:57:39.309 --> 00:57:42.590
belong. That's the thing. The stats bear out

00:57:42.590 --> 00:57:44.130
that we're fifth in the Western Conference and

00:57:44.130 --> 00:57:46.150
that's where we should be. Fourth or fifth on

00:57:46.150 --> 00:57:50.170
every single category. So that's the problem

00:57:50.170 --> 00:57:52.670
here is that we are who we are and we just gave

00:57:52.670 --> 00:57:56.909
up another goal. Not surprising based on... By

00:57:56.909 --> 00:58:00.610
the way, we gave up a goal on a shot that I wish

00:58:00.610 --> 00:58:02.840
we would take. Why don't we shoot from outside?

00:58:02.860 --> 00:58:05.219
Why don't we like 22 yards out? I never see a

00:58:05.219 --> 00:58:07.440
shot. Funny you say that because that is a Sanders

00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.000
mailbag question from Alex Diaz. Why are we scared

00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:15.699
to take shots from outside the box? I don't know.

00:58:15.699 --> 00:58:19.119
That's a good question for Brian Schmetzer. But

00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:22.900
I think we forget that it wasn't that long ago

00:58:22.900 --> 00:58:24.920
that we were taking and scoring goals from outside

00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:28.679
the box. So again, no earlier in the season.

00:58:29.539 --> 00:58:32.519
I don't know. Maybe you've got a couple of lucky

00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:35.420
ones, but nah, we don't, we don't purposely take

00:58:35.420 --> 00:58:39.480
shots when like, right. Boom. Let's your hips

00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:41.579
are square. Just take a shot. We don't, we don't

00:58:41.579 --> 00:58:43.920
have that mentality. We don't have your hips.

00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:49.119
Rush snack would have a couple more goals. It

00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.579
seems to be pass around that. That is, it just

00:58:51.579 --> 00:58:54.780
got through the trees. Didn't it? Watching the

00:58:54.780 --> 00:59:02.260
replay. God damn. Well, now it's going to get

00:59:02.260 --> 00:59:10.579
weird. Two red cards. Nine against 11. I mean,

00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:15.699
what do you do here? Do you just put on the other

00:59:15.699 --> 00:59:20.179
kids, right? And just say, go after it? Well,

00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.860
we kind of did that. We put in Kalani Kosaranzi.

00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.440
We obviously got Danny Masovsky out there. Well,

00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.119
he's not a kid, but we've also got Rothrock out

00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.579
there. So is that four subs in? Do we have one

00:59:34.579 --> 00:59:41.440
left? I think we have one window left. We have

00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.860
one window left. One window left. Do we have

00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:48.719
any players left? Oh, no, I'm sorry. I missed

00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:52.219
on that sub window. We subbed four people off

00:59:52.219 --> 00:59:56.179
on that one window. So we have one sub. Yep.

00:59:56.280 --> 01:00:00.119
One sub, one window. Yeah. Well, two windows,

01:00:00.179 --> 01:00:03.440
but it's irrelevant. We have one sub available.

01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.920
And we have four windows? No, we subbed four

01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.239
people off on that last one. Yeah, so we have

01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:12.539
two more windows, but we only have one sub. We

01:00:12.539 --> 01:00:20.429
make a sub of nobody in the final window. Rough.

01:00:20.429 --> 01:00:24.809
Rough stuff. Well, big gulp, huh? All right.

01:00:24.869 --> 01:00:29.730
See you later. Slurping. No, you don't get the

01:00:29.730 --> 01:00:34.650
reference? Nope. Dumb and Dumber. Big gulp, huh?

01:00:35.389 --> 01:00:38.530
All right. See you later. Oh, nice save. What

01:00:38.530 --> 01:00:41.050
is that from? Dumb and Dumber. When he's leaving

01:00:41.050 --> 01:00:44.869
the gas station. Long time ago. He just says

01:00:44.869 --> 01:00:48.099
it to... I think it's a funny movie, but I think

01:00:48.099 --> 01:00:56.900
it's overrated. Not in your top 10? Is it an

01:00:56.900 --> 01:01:02.539
11 in your comments? It's more of the... It's

01:01:02.539 --> 01:01:05.320
got the most laughs of all time. Even if you

01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.900
take the last two years of streaming out, it's

01:01:07.900 --> 01:01:09.739
got the most laughs of all time. No way. Something

01:01:09.739 --> 01:01:13.559
about Mary is way funnier than that movie. I

01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:18.250
quote... Dumb and Dumber far more often than

01:01:18.250 --> 01:01:20.389
I've ever quoted something about Mary. I think

01:01:20.389 --> 01:01:23.449
that's true, but that's a different equation,

01:01:23.989 --> 01:01:27.690
I think. I think that's the best relation to

01:01:27.690 --> 01:01:29.929
it. Yeah, there are probably four or five different

01:01:29.929 --> 01:01:33.329
quotes from Dumb and Dumber that I still use

01:01:33.329 --> 01:01:37.099
within a month. it's okay i'm a limo driver is

01:01:37.099 --> 01:01:39.260
like i'm just gonna do it just leave me alone

01:01:39.260 --> 01:01:44.380
samsonite i was way off you know how many times

01:01:44.380 --> 01:01:46.920
i do that in a hotel i get a bag it's a sam's

01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.320
night it's a cardigan but thanks for noticing

01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:57.599
killer boots man see i don't know i saw it i

01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:59.679
saw them both in the theater but to me dumb and

01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.539
dumber it doesn't hold up as well it is funny

01:02:02.539 --> 01:02:05.730
but There's a lot of movies like that that I

01:02:05.730 --> 01:02:08.769
think are in their place in time. Luckily, and

01:02:08.769 --> 01:02:10.150
I don't know this because I haven't watched it

01:02:10.150 --> 01:02:12.389
in the last decade, but I wonder if it seems

01:02:12.389 --> 01:02:14.190
like it would be less problematic than some of

01:02:14.190 --> 01:02:15.650
the other movies we loved when we were younger.

01:02:16.969 --> 01:02:20.650
Upon review. Dumb and Dumber over Ace Ventura

01:02:20.650 --> 01:02:23.550
is pretty much probably right up there as I can't.

01:02:24.329 --> 01:02:26.570
Really? I mean, I don't think Ace Ventura is

01:02:26.570 --> 01:02:29.690
that funny. That's Jim Carrey too over the top.

01:02:29.710 --> 01:02:33.250
I loved it then, but. No, I would say that's

01:02:33.250 --> 01:02:36.969
probably more of a movie you cannot introduce

01:02:36.969 --> 01:02:41.690
to the public now. Which one? Yeah. But I'm wondering

01:02:41.690 --> 01:02:46.210
why. What is it that made it? The reaction to

01:02:46.210 --> 01:02:51.510
Kissing. Well, I mean, I'm thinking like Revenge

01:02:51.510 --> 01:02:54.230
of the Nerds. I mean, that's got a straight up

01:02:54.230 --> 01:02:57.690
rape scene. I know. And there's so much racism.

01:02:57.829 --> 01:03:00.130
I mean, you look at all the John Hughes films.

01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:03.739
Those are classic films. I forget that you guys

01:03:03.739 --> 01:03:07.880
are grandpas compared to me. Oh, okay. That explains

01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:11.500
a lot. Jesus. Oh, that was a beautiful save from

01:03:11.500 --> 01:03:13.480
Fry. It should be 3 -0 Vancouver right now. Was

01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:18.059
that a save? Yeah. Yep. Beautiful save from Fry.

01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:20.179
Shout out. I don't think I've seen Revenge of

01:03:20.179 --> 01:03:23.159
the Nerds. I think you're probably okay. It's

01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:27.400
part of the boobs comedies of the late 70s, early

01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:31.019
80s. Porky's, the beginning of the National Lampoon.

01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:35.099
Yeah, it's right in that vein. Not Vacation,

01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:38.340
but the other animal house. I mean, it's after

01:03:38.340 --> 01:03:43.489
all those, but... I know of it because I watched

01:03:43.489 --> 01:03:48.690
a lot of Comedy Central in the late 90s. If you're

01:03:48.690 --> 01:03:51.409
not watching on HBO, you don't get the edited

01:03:51.409 --> 01:03:55.610
version. 90 % of that movie is nudity and racism.

01:03:57.710 --> 01:04:02.690
That's where I know of it. It is really interesting

01:04:02.690 --> 01:04:06.429
though because as a kid, we all rooted for Lewis

01:04:06.429 --> 01:04:11.170
when those things happened. Not so much anymore.

01:04:13.489 --> 01:04:15.710
There's a lot of things that don't hold up, like

01:04:15.710 --> 01:04:17.889
Rothrock getting fouled there and then they don't

01:04:17.889 --> 01:04:22.329
call it. He's kind of a player that doesn't get

01:04:22.329 --> 01:04:25.550
a lot of calls, his style of play. What do you

01:04:25.550 --> 01:04:28.250
think about that? I don't know if that's true.

01:04:28.429 --> 01:04:31.690
I mean, you're a Kobe fan. I think it's way more

01:04:31.690 --> 01:04:35.530
true in NBA than it is in MLS, but there's some

01:04:35.530 --> 01:04:37.369
players that don't get the calls while others

01:04:37.369 --> 01:04:40.980
do. What do you think of that when players haven't

01:04:40.980 --> 01:04:43.179
put in their time to earn a call when other players

01:04:43.179 --> 01:04:44.579
are on the same call? You nailed it right there

01:04:44.579 --> 01:04:46.900
with you got to put in the time. It feels like

01:04:46.900 --> 01:04:51.039
there's this reluctance for the young players

01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:55.460
to make that move. Who was it? Who did we end

01:04:55.460 --> 01:05:00.099
up trading to Nashville? The dinner on? No, we

01:05:00.099 --> 01:05:03.639
got Madronda back on the other side of it. But

01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:10.909
nothing, not Wingo. But yes, we traded him. One

01:05:10.909 --> 01:05:12.869
of the few players that would take players on

01:05:12.869 --> 01:05:17.750
1v1 at that time of the 2017 -18 -19 Sounders.

01:05:18.449 --> 01:05:23.150
And that's exactly what would happen is he would

01:05:23.150 --> 01:05:26.250
earn the foul. It wouldn't get called because,

01:05:26.349 --> 01:05:30.210
yeah, just that was the vibe that I got. It's

01:05:30.210 --> 01:05:33.590
like, oh, you haven't earned it. Yeah. Whereas

01:05:33.590 --> 01:05:35.489
we see Georgie do get that, but I think it's

01:05:35.489 --> 01:05:37.789
because of his moves. The fouls are so egregious.

01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.340
I think I've had Walla Buona. Yeah. That's the

01:05:44.340 --> 01:05:47.019
only signature I have on my scarves, actually.

01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:50.800
From the 90. You did a little signing there.

01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:57.320
Yeah, no, that's the earning. I think it's more

01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.539
just like they're all human, right? So the referees

01:05:59.539 --> 01:06:03.559
are around. They understand how you play. You're

01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:05.699
not trying to pull one on me. I have more trust

01:06:05.699 --> 01:06:08.199
in your style of play and know that if you're

01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:09.559
going to fall down like that, that's probably

01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:11.880
a foul. They're not able to see everything. We

01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:17.219
do know this sport cannot be appropriately and

01:06:17.219 --> 01:06:21.599
most proficiently reffed with one person running

01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:25.440
around the middle of 22. Yeah. Right. And then

01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:29.099
two little flaggers, right? The flaggers clearly

01:06:29.099 --> 01:06:31.670
don't do their job. the time no i mean they're

01:06:31.670 --> 01:06:35.190
they're these are they're better athletes running

01:06:35.190 --> 01:06:36.869
that you're trying to catch up with that's your

01:06:36.869 --> 01:06:39.389
job catch up with the athletes running and we'll

01:06:39.389 --> 01:06:41.090
give you half the field still but they're not

01:06:41.090 --> 01:06:43.210
gonna get it right all the time then you have

01:06:43.210 --> 01:06:44.849
to stop and that's why the cameras are involved

01:06:44.849 --> 01:06:50.769
but uh anyway dietrub but it always bugs me that

01:06:50.769 --> 01:06:52.849
people say lebron flops because it's it's like

01:06:52.849 --> 01:06:55.449
they've never heard of manu ginobili who flops

01:06:55.449 --> 01:06:59.920
like neymar He flopped the Sonics out of a playoff

01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:02.239
series one time on the most BS foul call I've

01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:08.960
ever seen. Yeah, and also every player has flopped.

01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.219
It's just the consistency. It's like, what pattern

01:07:11.219 --> 01:07:14.840
do they flop? Are they a flopper or do they flop

01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:19.719
right there? Well, let me tell you, it's floppy.

01:07:21.089 --> 01:07:23.929
You know what? You can have your floppy disk.

01:07:23.949 --> 01:07:26.329
My disk is hard. Thank you very much. I got a

01:07:26.329 --> 01:07:37.460
hard disk. No, unfortunately, it's a 3 .5. There's

01:07:37.460 --> 01:07:39.559
a bunch of younger listeners right now, including

01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.019
maybe one of our outros that are like, what's

01:07:42.019 --> 01:07:44.820
that mean? Hey guys, you ever wonder why the

01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:52.559
save icon looks like the save icon? That is Nick's

01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:57.000
dick. Your save icon. Right there. We used to

01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:59.300
have to slide that thing open too to check on

01:07:59.300 --> 01:08:04.820
it. What? Oh man. What a ball through all...

01:08:05.339 --> 01:08:07.579
Oh, he couldn't get to it. Vancouver, I mean,

01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:09.059
understandably, they have two extra players,

01:08:09.139 --> 01:08:11.199
but they're looking good right now. I mean, here's

01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:13.599
the thing is I don't hate Vancouver. I'm frustrated

01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:16.600
that we shat the bed against a shorthanded Vancouver

01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:19.060
team. With that said, I had to take my headphones

01:08:19.060 --> 01:08:22.939
out on the two of you because I had a mouthful

01:08:22.939 --> 01:08:25.560
of beer, and I was this close to just spewing

01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:28.560
it across my keyboard. You're going to spew into

01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:33.819
this. Oh. Stu Hawkins? Oh, no, Cody Baker. Cody

01:08:33.819 --> 01:08:36.739
Baker! Oh, my God! This is his first appearance

01:08:36.739 --> 01:08:39.579
of the year? I think it is. I love it. Man, remember

01:08:39.579 --> 01:08:41.399
how good he was last year? I like Cody Baker.

01:08:41.899 --> 01:08:44.020
Wasn't it the year before? Wasn't it 2023 that

01:08:44.020 --> 01:08:46.539
we saw Cody Baker? No, no, no. He was last year.

01:08:46.579 --> 01:08:50.979
Yeah, but he had picked up an injury and then

01:08:50.979 --> 01:08:54.619
just couldn't get back on. I thought 2023 was

01:08:54.619 --> 01:08:57.600
a Cody Baker rewriting. No, it was last year.

01:08:58.699 --> 01:09:01.880
Cody Baker rewriting. The same year that we went

01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:09.319
to Vancouver and watched. I will say, he always

01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:10.880
impressed me because I thought he was just a

01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:12.760
dude, and then it turned out, no, he's not just

01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:20.300
a dude. He actually is solid. There's a Rothrock

01:09:20.300 --> 01:09:22.840
similarity to both of them. Looking around the

01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:26.020
league right now, LAFC is up 2 -1 on SKC in the

01:09:26.020 --> 01:09:28.380
second half. Of course, Portland, no, they won

01:09:28.380 --> 01:09:33.380
that in injury time. Colorado lost last night

01:09:33.380 --> 01:09:37.399
at home against Atlanta, or not Atlanta, Austin,

01:09:37.619 --> 01:09:41.119
2 -0. And we already talked about Chicago, D

01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:45.199
.C., 7 -1. Not a lot of games this weekend. I

01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:47.800
think only certain teams are getting punished

01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:51.119
for having players in the leave. I guess that

01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.920
adds a little bit more to their argument to not

01:09:53.920 --> 01:10:00.500
play tonight. Now, do you think... We didn't

01:10:00.500 --> 01:10:02.859
want this game to be canceled because... I wish

01:10:02.859 --> 01:10:05.420
it was now. Do you think it should have been?

01:10:05.460 --> 01:10:10.319
It doesn't really seem fair to us or to Vancouver,

01:10:10.619 --> 01:10:12.460
but especially Vancouver, that this game happened.

01:10:12.699 --> 01:10:14.899
Not because of their sicknesses, but just coming

01:10:14.899 --> 01:10:19.539
off of that game on Saturday and with everything

01:10:19.539 --> 01:10:22.180
considered, it seems like poor planning from

01:10:22.180 --> 01:10:25.800
MLS's part. Well, MLS fucked up by not giving

01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:30.050
Vancouver... a break before their Champions League

01:10:30.050 --> 01:10:33.390
final, so they fucked up. That's step one. Whereas

01:10:33.390 --> 01:10:36.890
we got that, right? We got our main move. Yeah,

01:10:36.890 --> 01:10:40.210
I remember that was like a bubble surrounding

01:10:40.210 --> 01:10:43.109
the final. We were just able to completely focus

01:10:43.109 --> 01:10:51.890
on that match. Now, with that said, this game...

01:10:51.890 --> 01:10:55.529
Oh, he just kicked the corner. What a loser.

01:10:56.159 --> 01:11:00.760
They should lose the game. This game does remind

01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:03.939
me a lot of the Sounders -Austin game. What's

01:11:03.939 --> 01:11:07.020
happening? Where we started five teenagers. Where

01:11:07.020 --> 01:11:10.680
we started five teenagers. And where I'm going

01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:18.399
with this is that we won 1 -0. And that's why

01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:20.340
it's like, oh, we won a game with five teenagers.

01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:26.739
If you recall, how we scored that one goal was

01:11:26.739 --> 01:11:32.880
Ruiz scoring like a 45 -yarder. Right, but the

01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:34.300
difference is those are the games we used to

01:11:34.300 --> 01:11:36.539
win. They're showing the replay of that. He just

01:11:36.539 --> 01:11:40.600
forgot the flag was there. What an idiot. How

01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:43.479
do you do that? I've never seen that happen before.

01:11:43.739 --> 01:11:47.039
I haven't either. Even in public, which we don't

01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:49.479
have flags. We do. That's why. We have flags.

01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:56.279
Yeah. Yeah, I bought the flags last year. Yeah,

01:11:56.380 --> 01:11:57.979
you played with them for a full season. Yeah,

01:11:57.979 --> 01:12:03.039
we got the pride flags on top of them. I did

01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:08.819
a corner today with one. Anyways, ultimately...

01:12:08.819 --> 01:12:13.220
I was too focused on the ball. This game, you

01:12:13.220 --> 01:12:17.380
know, I don't know. Look, is this emblematic

01:12:17.380 --> 01:12:20.069
of our whole season? No, but... These results

01:12:20.069 --> 01:12:22.270
are happening too often. These mistakes are happening

01:12:22.270 --> 01:12:24.289
too often. And there needs to be some sort of

01:12:24.289 --> 01:12:27.149
reckoning within the locker room. I don't think

01:12:27.149 --> 01:12:29.510
they are, though. I guess that's the difference.

01:12:29.710 --> 01:12:33.170
I don't think. But what games are you watching

01:12:33.170 --> 01:12:36.250
where we're not giving up stupid goals? The second

01:12:36.250 --> 01:12:37.649
goal. We're not talking about the second goal

01:12:37.649 --> 01:12:39.470
here. It's been a third one right there. We're

01:12:39.470 --> 01:12:41.390
talking about the first goal. Yeah, they did

01:12:41.390 --> 01:12:46.859
almost. Pick any team. And look at all the goals

01:12:46.859 --> 01:12:48.899
scored against them this season. Take the best

01:12:48.899 --> 01:12:50.859
team in the league. Take the best team in the

01:12:50.859 --> 01:12:52.479
league and look at all the goals that they allowed

01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:54.199
in the year. But you know what else they're doing?

01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:57.579
They're scoring goals. And they're scoring goals

01:12:57.579 --> 01:12:59.220
they're meant to score. I think my problem is

01:12:59.220 --> 01:13:02.939
if you look at our XG, we should be scoring more

01:13:02.939 --> 01:13:05.180
goals. That's a beautiful play from Moose. Come

01:13:05.180 --> 01:13:09.600
on. Great defense. Beautiful defense. They gave

01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.850
us that penalty? Nope. Nope. I hate that the

01:13:12.850 --> 01:13:15.409
ref call for goal kick and penalty are so similar.

01:13:15.529 --> 01:13:18.449
It depends on where you're pointing. Yeah, I

01:13:18.449 --> 01:13:20.489
know. But the way he ran in pointing, it was

01:13:20.489 --> 01:13:23.449
like, what? This is a brilliant defense. Oh,

01:13:23.529 --> 01:13:27.170
actually, actually. If you're giving a red for

01:13:27.170 --> 01:13:30.829
the incidental leg, that's a penalty. He didn't

01:13:30.829 --> 01:13:33.869
touch the ball. If you're giving a red to John

01:13:33.869 --> 01:13:36.149
Bell, and they played it, so they're not even

01:13:36.149 --> 01:13:38.729
VAR. You should give us the opportunity of a

01:13:38.729 --> 01:13:43.439
review right there. That is some serious fuckery.

01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:49.220
No, it's as if they've turned the game off. It's

01:13:49.220 --> 01:13:50.819
the only thing that's happening right now is

01:13:50.819 --> 01:13:54.220
the clock. The refs aren't watching that. I mean,

01:13:54.220 --> 01:13:55.800
what you can say is Danny went down a little

01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:58.619
easy. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. His legs

01:13:58.619 --> 01:14:01.439
got. Yeah. No, he didn't. Actually, I don't think

01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:03.180
his legs got tangled. I think he. No, I don't

01:14:03.180 --> 01:14:06.319
think they actually. The guy. Yeah, he lunged

01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:09.079
for the ball and missed it. And then bodied him

01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.100
shoulder to shoulder. He had his right hand on

01:14:11.100 --> 01:14:13.760
his left shoulder. Oh, my goodness. Look at that.

01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.119
And then, of course, the next defender fixed

01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:23.020
it. But I like Rienzi. Yeah. He's ripped, by

01:14:23.020 --> 01:14:24.920
the way. Have you seen him with his shirt off?

01:14:25.500 --> 01:14:28.800
No. Why would I see him with his shirt off? I

01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:32.529
mean. There are many opportunities. Where? What

01:14:32.529 --> 01:14:37.350
are you talking about? He's calling a penalty.

01:14:37.710 --> 01:14:41.550
Are you fucking kidding me? It looked like he

01:14:41.550 --> 01:14:47.029
slipped. Joe Palo down. I'm in contact. Okay.

01:14:47.270 --> 01:14:52.550
This ref can fuck himself. Let's see the replay.

01:14:52.810 --> 01:14:56.369
This could still be the right call. Oh, right

01:14:56.369 --> 01:14:59.399
call has nothing to do with it. I'm still on

01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:09.420
about the Mussofsky. Did he touch him? He didn't

01:15:09.420 --> 01:15:11.039
touch him. He did the trailing leg. Oh, at the

01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:14.079
end he did when he slid out. But, yeah, you've

01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:15.579
got to call that because it's in the box. But,

01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:19.359
gosh, that's so unlucky because it wasn't when

01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:21.460
he was running. It was when he stopped and then

01:15:21.460 --> 01:15:25.340
was down like in a plank formation. You know

01:15:25.340 --> 01:15:31.199
what? If this was. the second goal, I wouldn't

01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:35.039
be as upset as I was as that decision. What are

01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:36.560
you talking about? Fry's going to make the save

01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.520
and then it's going to go to VAR. Then it's going

01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.880
to go to VAR. Does he even have, he has one PK

01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:45.800
save in his career, right? Just one. No, he did

01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:47.319
against Houston in the playoffs. He's got one

01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.939
right here. Yeah. Or not. No. I mean, he has

01:15:50.939 --> 01:15:53.659
more than one, but he's just not. No, an actual

01:15:53.659 --> 01:15:56.939
save. Not like... Oh, where people haven't missed?

01:15:57.180 --> 01:15:59.960
Yeah. Yeah, I guess he is lower on that. It's

01:15:59.960 --> 01:16:02.479
usually missing. Of course that's what I'm referencing.

01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:07.800
Not including people skyrocketing it. I think

01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:12.000
he is more in US Open Cup, though. I've said

01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.100
it before and I'll say it again. Until they change

01:16:14.100 --> 01:16:18.979
the stutter step rule, they cannot have the rule

01:16:18.979 --> 01:16:22.289
where... Goalies, yeah, he got them. Goalies

01:16:22.289 --> 01:16:24.890
come off the line. Bottom line is my rule is

01:16:24.890 --> 01:16:28.109
the moment the player makes a motion, goalies

01:16:28.109 --> 01:16:32.010
can come off their line. Agreed. Stutter all

01:16:32.010 --> 01:16:35.130
you want, but the moment you move, then it's

01:16:35.130 --> 01:16:38.590
all on. Or if you want to use the line, no stuttering.

01:16:38.630 --> 01:16:40.689
You must run straight forward and kick the ball

01:16:40.689 --> 01:16:42.109
straight forward. Yeah, that's right. I think

01:16:42.109 --> 01:16:43.590
it's harder to actually. One or the other. You

01:16:43.590 --> 01:16:46.329
can't have both. I think it's once the player,

01:16:46.470 --> 01:16:51.380
the kicker. It's just, or the whistle blows.

01:16:52.140 --> 01:16:55.100
Okay. So whistle blows go. Now you can, now it's

01:16:55.100 --> 01:16:57.260
penalty kick with a goalkeeper can rush out.

01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:01.239
Let's just do that. Pushing forward again for

01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:03.600
another goal. But luckily the Sounders defense.

01:17:03.899 --> 01:17:06.640
That's rude of them to do that. Yeah. Just give

01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:09.920
it up guys. I mean, that's not very Canadian

01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:13.720
of them. Also, did you really want to write like.

01:17:14.109 --> 01:17:15.590
We could end up playing them in the playoffs.

01:17:15.729 --> 01:17:17.590
Do you really want to rub it in here and give

01:17:17.590 --> 01:17:19.810
us a chance to come back later and do it back

01:17:19.810 --> 01:17:23.289
to you in a playoff match? Don't think you want

01:17:23.289 --> 01:17:25.289
to, even if it is your rivals. Are you talking

01:17:25.289 --> 01:17:29.229
dirty to me? Yeah. Yeah, because we're going

01:17:29.229 --> 01:17:31.329
to get that seventh spot, yet we're going to

01:17:31.329 --> 01:17:33.170
do what we always do. We're going to make it

01:17:33.170 --> 01:17:34.510
to the Western Conference Final. Why would you

01:17:34.510 --> 01:17:36.149
expect anything else? We're going to finish number

01:17:36.149 --> 01:17:40.729
two. Yeah, we just... I think the difference

01:17:40.729 --> 01:17:42.909
is expectations. I expect us to be playing for

01:17:42.909 --> 01:17:46.550
championships every year. Do I expect the Seahawks

01:17:46.550 --> 01:17:48.310
to do that? No, because they're terrible now.

01:17:48.470 --> 01:17:50.189
Do I expect the Mariners to do that? No, but

01:17:50.189 --> 01:17:52.189
I expect the Storm, even though they're kind

01:17:52.189 --> 01:17:54.010
of stuck right now, I expect the Reign and I

01:17:54.010 --> 01:17:56.489
expect the Sounders to be playing for championships

01:17:56.489 --> 01:17:59.010
every year. Well, I mean, I get that, but I think

01:17:59.010 --> 01:18:02.010
that's actually kind of part of my concern is

01:18:02.010 --> 01:18:05.750
sometimes the standard... I feel like sometimes

01:18:05.750 --> 01:18:10.430
people have expectations that... what they expect

01:18:10.430 --> 01:18:13.310
from the Sounders is what isn't really possible

01:18:13.310 --> 01:18:16.550
in MLS play. I don't think I've ever seen this

01:18:16.550 --> 01:18:18.430
before. They said it's plus five, but he just

01:18:18.430 --> 01:18:20.649
blew it anyway. Yeah, because he didn't want

01:18:20.649 --> 01:18:26.250
to. It's the right call in this situation. I

01:18:26.250 --> 01:18:28.090
mean, I'm fine with it. They're all fine with

01:18:28.090 --> 01:18:32.460
it. So what you're saying then. Is you're okay

01:18:32.460 --> 01:18:34.840
with the Sounders not trying to win the championship

01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:38.000
every year? No, I'm saying that fans have an

01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:40.079
unrealistic expectation. They expect to win every

01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.979
game for nothing. And I think, I think that's

01:18:42.979 --> 01:18:46.020
not. I would, I would be fine with a one nothing

01:18:46.020 --> 01:18:49.880
win where it's not a fluke handball that gets

01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:52.460
us the win. See that. That's, that's exactly

01:18:52.460 --> 01:18:56.979
my point is that there are, you win in multitude

01:18:56.979 --> 01:19:01.520
of ways. I agree across the season, but the problem

01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:03.359
that we're seeing is that we're seeing certain

01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:06.000
things over and over again. And we need the ball

01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.899
to bounce our way at times. Today could have

01:19:08.899 --> 01:19:11.260
been that before all the red cards, right? We

01:19:11.260 --> 01:19:14.560
had one bad defensive mistake that they exploited,

01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:16.979
but we were never able to recover from that.

01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:19.039
And granted, they didn't have a whole ton of

01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:22.680
time. I think if we had only had one red card,

01:19:22.779 --> 01:19:30.569
perhaps this is a different result. Yep. I mean,

01:19:30.590 --> 01:19:38.489
we haven't won a championship since 2019. An

01:19:38.489 --> 01:19:43.729
MLS Cup. MLS Cup. Yeah. Sorry. So that's six

01:19:43.729 --> 01:19:47.090
years. Yeah. And there seems to be this feeling,

01:19:47.229 --> 01:19:50.770
like we grew this sense of, plus obviously winning

01:19:50.770 --> 01:19:55.529
CONCACAF for that. It feels like we're slipping

01:19:55.529 --> 01:20:02.829
and we're losing grips on that expectation of

01:20:02.829 --> 01:20:06.149
silverware every year. We were 2020 away from

01:20:06.149 --> 01:20:08.750
a dynasty. If we had won in 2020, we would have

01:20:08.750 --> 01:20:12.510
been considered a great MLS dynasty. And I think

01:20:12.510 --> 01:20:17.320
the difference is the league has changed. Which

01:20:17.320 --> 01:20:19.819
shouldn't be a surprise because the league has

01:20:19.819 --> 01:20:24.119
had eight generations since 1996. Right. But

01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:27.699
the money has outpaced the Sounders, and so they

01:20:27.699 --> 01:20:30.840
have to spend smarter, and they're not – I mean,

01:20:30.859 --> 01:20:35.680
I titled that episode Weibel's a Genius, Craig

01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:38.060
is a Genius. I think he did the best with what

01:20:38.060 --> 01:20:42.199
he can do, but I do think we are hamstrung by

01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:44.439
the fact that we can't spend money the way some

01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:48.350
of these other teams do. And so we shouldn't

01:20:48.350 --> 01:20:50.069
be expecting championships every year. We should

01:20:50.069 --> 01:20:52.090
be expecting – I think we should expect to be

01:20:52.090 --> 01:20:54.949
second or third in the West because I think we

01:20:54.949 --> 01:20:57.390
should always play above where I think we are.

01:20:57.529 --> 01:21:00.430
But I have a problem with us finishing fourth

01:21:00.430 --> 01:21:03.670
or fifth. It's keeping us from getting some ownership

01:21:03.670 --> 01:21:07.670
that has deeper pockets. Can we have what you

01:21:07.670 --> 01:21:14.510
wish for? A, they're not for sale. B, who local

01:21:14.510 --> 01:21:16.270
– I mean – unless you're going to convince like

01:21:16.270 --> 01:21:18.409
Steve Ballmer to come back up and do it or someone

01:21:18.409 --> 01:21:22.069
who, what local, what local ownership who, you

01:21:22.069 --> 01:21:25.649
know, look at what happened with the, the rain.

01:21:26.149 --> 01:21:28.170
Not that they weren't good, but when they became

01:21:28.170 --> 01:21:30.050
the oil rain, they no longer, they were just

01:21:30.050 --> 01:21:32.409
part of a cog in the system, right? Like they

01:21:32.409 --> 01:21:34.449
didn't win a championship. They got close. So

01:21:34.449 --> 01:21:37.609
you're saying we need local money. We need to

01:21:37.609 --> 01:21:41.850
keep the, or Adrian needs to convince some of

01:21:41.850 --> 01:21:45.079
these rich people that are owners to. I was going

01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:47.340
to say, I think our ownership is pretty fucking

01:21:47.340 --> 01:21:53.899
wealthy. Our minority owners are, but why would

01:21:53.899 --> 01:21:55.880
they put money into a team where they don't make

01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:58.180
the profit? Where if it gets sold, they only

01:21:58.180 --> 01:22:00.220
make a small percentage. Adrian would have to

01:22:00.220 --> 01:22:02.260
sell off some of his ownership stake, I think,

01:22:02.260 --> 01:22:05.359
to make this happen. Because he doesn't have

01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:08.100
the money. He's not a self -made millionaire.

01:22:08.140 --> 01:22:10.819
He has family money, which is why. His mom and

01:22:10.819 --> 01:22:13.199
him have a, he talked about it, a company that

01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:16.300
they started that is the owner of the team. Well,

01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:19.020
owners, we are talking about it. Obviously, the

01:22:19.020 --> 01:22:24.960
league owns the team. But this path was started

01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:30.159
when Joe Roth had to get divorced. And then luckily,

01:22:30.300 --> 01:22:32.819
he let us sell the team locally instead of to

01:22:32.819 --> 01:22:37.979
a trust fund, but to a hedge fund. So, I mean,

01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:43.020
I think. The problem here is our ownership as

01:22:43.020 --> 01:22:47.380
it is, does not see signing higher quality players

01:22:47.380 --> 01:22:50.880
as a way to win. And that's why I root for Miami

01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:55.000
generally is because until Miami and those teams

01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.319
win championships regularly, he'll never think

01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:03.479
otherwise. Because why we got, we got, we're

01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:05.239
the second best team in the West last year, arguably

01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:09.779
the second best team in the MLS. just barely

01:23:09.779 --> 01:23:12.340
getting by and we did it without spending tons

01:23:12.340 --> 01:23:14.880
of money i i mean i'm gonna say that i still

01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:18.500
think that this is this is when healthy one of

01:23:18.500 --> 01:23:21.399
the top three rosters in the league so i think

01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:24.619
this is all colored from oh we just have to be

01:23:24.619 --> 01:23:26.619
one or the other though why can't you just be

01:23:26.619 --> 01:23:30.039
a well -constructed team that has a one or two

01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:34.159
players that are incredibly talented that it

01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.079
costs a lot of money why can't you why can't

01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:38.949
why can't you have christian rolled on and Messi

01:23:38.949 --> 01:23:41.729
on the same team. I do think we're one of the

01:23:41.729 --> 01:23:43.850
most talented teams. I think they're underperforming,

01:23:43.850 --> 01:23:45.510
though, even with the injuries. And the question

01:23:45.510 --> 01:23:47.949
is, and it goes back to that question, is it

01:23:47.949 --> 01:23:50.409
coaching? Is it players? I don't know which it

01:23:50.409 --> 01:23:53.710
is. I don't have the answer to that. But I know

01:23:53.710 --> 01:23:56.510
the one consistency over the years has been that

01:23:56.510 --> 01:24:00.850
we have the same coach. I do think, and this

01:24:00.850 --> 01:24:04.149
is a conversation I had on one of the Ultra Talks,

01:24:04.149 --> 01:24:06.670
I think, the other day, is... This is a very

01:24:06.670 --> 01:24:08.949
un -Seattle conversation. Maybe it is time to

01:24:08.949 --> 01:24:10.869
move on from some of our older players that have

01:24:10.869 --> 01:24:14.069
been with us. I love Christian to death, but

01:24:14.069 --> 01:24:16.430
if his contract is hamstringing us in any way,

01:24:16.569 --> 01:24:20.109
pun intended, I don't think it is, maybe it's

01:24:20.109 --> 01:24:22.430
time to move on. You obviously know what my opinion

01:24:22.430 --> 01:24:25.569
is on... Unless he comes back and lights up.

01:24:26.029 --> 01:24:28.130
Christian's a horrible example to use your starting

01:24:28.130 --> 01:24:30.369
argument on that. Now, Jordan might be a better

01:24:30.369 --> 01:24:32.750
argument. I think Jordan is, but, but Christian,

01:24:32.909 --> 01:24:35.250
I don't know. I don't know. I would have to see

01:24:35.250 --> 01:24:36.470
Christian's performance. That's what I'm saying.

01:24:36.529 --> 01:24:38.409
I don't know what his contract is. He's not a

01:24:38.409 --> 01:24:42.170
TAM player. I don't think, but, but some players,

01:24:42.289 --> 01:24:44.970
if, and I think he would work with us, Jordan

01:24:44.970 --> 01:24:47.390
being a DP right now is rough on us because.

01:24:48.029 --> 01:24:50.229
he's been hurt if he's been healthy is it is

01:24:50.229 --> 01:24:52.390
it something different possibly but we're not

01:24:52.390 --> 01:24:55.550
we haven't seen that and uh i said before the

01:24:55.550 --> 01:24:57.689
season you know i want to see him come out and

01:24:57.689 --> 01:24:59.949
prove that he's a dp and so far he hasn't he

01:24:59.949 --> 01:25:02.050
totally can in the second half there's plenty

01:25:02.050 --> 01:25:04.470
of time left oh they just showed that new who

01:25:04.470 --> 01:25:09.010
replay again that is so frustrating but but to

01:25:09.010 --> 01:25:11.369
me you have one of the most talented rosters

01:25:11.369 --> 01:25:14.649
in the league maybe the most talented in the

01:25:14.649 --> 01:25:18.199
west and they're underperforming So I think the

01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:22.619
question is why? And I don't know the answer

01:25:22.619 --> 01:25:27.880
to that. I agree, Kitty. I agree. Wow. This is

01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:32.500
just terrible. Just wow. I mean, I don't fault

01:25:32.500 --> 01:25:34.680
John Bell for his red card there. I don't think

01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:36.920
it was a red card. And, you know, he wouldn't

01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.520
be starting if we didn't have injuries. I think

01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:42.960
Jao Paulo's penalty there is kind of a freak

01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:48.069
play. You know. I'm not worried about those in

01:25:48.069 --> 01:25:51.430
general. It's the head -scratching mistakes that

01:25:51.430 --> 01:25:53.609
bother me, that new -who play there, the new

01:25:53.609 --> 01:25:55.890
-who not covering on the goal. Why is everyone

01:25:55.890 --> 01:25:57.789
standing around ball -watching? We're halfway

01:25:57.789 --> 01:25:59.510
through the season. Why are we making these same

01:25:59.510 --> 01:26:01.949
mistakes? Last year, they figured it out, though,

01:26:01.970 --> 01:26:04.109
right? Last year, we were making horrible mistakes

01:26:04.109 --> 01:26:05.789
in the beginning, and everything changed. Second

01:26:05.789 --> 01:26:07.050
half of the season, we were one of the best teams

01:26:07.050 --> 01:26:10.930
in the league. I think the Club World Cup is

01:26:10.930 --> 01:26:14.130
going to be a good shake -up. It's completely

01:26:14.130 --> 01:26:18.329
different. situation. You're literally taken

01:26:18.329 --> 01:26:20.869
out of that. We're also going to be playing five

01:26:20.869 --> 01:26:23.850
at the back because we're going to get run by

01:26:23.850 --> 01:26:25.569
these teams otherwise. It's also really frustrating

01:26:25.569 --> 01:26:28.109
that right now we should be getting excited.

01:26:28.989 --> 01:26:30.909
Everything's happening all at once to make us

01:26:30.909 --> 01:26:34.189
be like, what the fuck? It's just really fucking

01:26:34.189 --> 01:26:38.949
frustrating that we should be really excited

01:26:38.949 --> 01:26:43.119
right now and right now we're just angry. After

01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:50.199
that LAFC game versus, was it America? I was

01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:53.239
excited. And now I honestly, I'm only, I mean,

01:26:53.260 --> 01:26:54.779
I'm going to go to the Sounders games because

01:26:54.779 --> 01:26:55.920
I want to go to the Sounders games. I'm only

01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:57.500
going to the other games because I want my World

01:26:57.500 --> 01:26:59.119
Cup tickets for next year. And that was the deal,

01:26:59.140 --> 01:27:00.640
right? You got to show up and go to the games.

01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:03.020
I'm not excited about this tournament anymore.

01:27:03.100 --> 01:27:04.500
I don't even want the Sounders to put in their

01:27:04.500 --> 01:27:07.420
starters. Unless it's someone like Obed who might

01:27:07.420 --> 01:27:09.279
wow somebody, but he hasn't been playing his

01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:12.840
best, unfortunately, right now. Shout out to

01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:16.039
this kid, this 19 -year -old for Vancouver, though.

01:27:16.699 --> 01:27:19.000
He's got a 19 -year -old's mustache and hair

01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.640
combination. He does. Jeevan Badwal. What a cool

01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:26.920
moment for him in this game. I've got to give

01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:28.920
him props. But, yeah, I'm not excited about this

01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:33.159
anymore, and it's a bummer because of caring

01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:36.600
about workers' rights and caring about our team.

01:27:36.659 --> 01:27:38.460
This is not where we want the Sounders to be

01:27:38.460 --> 01:27:41.470
right now. But when today or when the last two

01:27:41.470 --> 01:27:44.189
matches you go into this in second place, finishing

01:27:44.189 --> 01:27:46.029
the first half on a high and all of a sudden

01:27:46.029 --> 01:27:50.189
everything just seals. F'd up, you know? We don't

01:27:50.189 --> 01:27:51.789
have, we don't know. I don't know who this team

01:27:51.789 --> 01:27:54.029
is. Like, it's like, we're just, we've been having

01:27:54.029 --> 01:27:57.329
to, it's like, we aren't at the bottom of the

01:27:57.329 --> 01:28:00.310
table. We're not at the top. We're just, we can't

01:28:00.310 --> 01:28:02.090
figure out who we are and how to score goals.

01:28:02.369 --> 01:28:04.329
And that's, I think the most frustrating thing.

01:28:04.430 --> 01:28:06.739
I think this is who we are. And that's what the

01:28:06.739 --> 01:28:08.819
numbers bear out. You don't want to say this

01:28:08.819 --> 01:28:11.760
to someone. You're trying to get better than

01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:13.560
this. You're trying to get better than this.

01:28:13.699 --> 01:28:16.539
No one wants to be this. You want your identity

01:28:16.539 --> 01:28:20.119
as we, like in NFL, we run the ball, we're brute

01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:23.020
force, we're physical, or we're flashy, we like

01:28:23.020 --> 01:28:25.560
to pass. We put four wide receivers out there

01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:30.640
every play. We just do the same thing and nothing

01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.680
seems to change, but we're deep and we still

01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:37.000
have quality. The stats say we're good, but the

01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:41.159
goals say we're not quite there. I mean, the

01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:43.680
possession stats, but the stats, I mean, on one

01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:45.720
of our fellow Sounders podcasts, they broke it

01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:48.399
down. And no matter how much the Sounders fan

01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:50.939
host tried to argue that it wasn't the case,

01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:53.619
the stats bear out that we are the fourth or

01:28:53.619 --> 01:28:57.159
fifth team in the West. The analytics, they all

01:28:57.159 --> 01:28:58.819
bear out that we're the fourth or fifth team

01:28:58.819 --> 01:29:00.420
in the West. That's how we've been playing. Now,

01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:05.130
do we think we can play better? Maybe. I think

01:29:05.130 --> 01:29:08.130
I think that we've been playing poorly, but this

01:29:08.130 --> 01:29:10.329
guy didn't. And so when you think about it, it's

01:29:10.329 --> 01:29:14.689
I think this is our identity right now. And this

01:29:14.689 --> 01:29:16.689
is frustrating, but that's the case. That doesn't

01:29:16.689 --> 01:29:18.210
mean you can't make a run. You get hot at the

01:29:18.210 --> 01:29:21.789
right time. But this to me feels more like a

01:29:21.789 --> 01:29:24.090
we just need to win 54 percent of the games to

01:29:24.090 --> 01:29:26.050
make the. playoffs and then maybe we can make

01:29:26.050 --> 01:29:28.069
a world series run because we have we're built

01:29:28.069 --> 01:29:30.529
for it i mean then we're gonna win the shield

01:29:30.529 --> 01:29:33.210
and and be a dominant team hey if the sounders

01:29:33.210 --> 01:29:37.170
make a world series run i am going to be like

01:29:37.170 --> 01:29:41.609
the first to say best team ever like here's the

01:29:41.609 --> 01:29:43.210
thing is you know the sounders are going to win

01:29:43.210 --> 01:29:45.949
the world series before the mariners that's that's

01:29:45.949 --> 01:29:52.960
100 true 100 true And on that note, I think that's

01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:57.100
a good time to call it a day. It is. It is. Where

01:29:57.100 --> 01:29:59.560
can they find you guys on the interwebs? Hey,

01:29:59.739 --> 01:30:04.060
come find me while you still can at Instagram.

01:30:05.480 --> 01:30:07.619
Where are you going? He's leaving them all. I

01:30:07.619 --> 01:30:09.640
don't think he'll leave Instagram. No, no, no.

01:30:09.739 --> 01:30:12.060
What I mean by that, I was getting a little dark

01:30:12.060 --> 01:30:17.119
because we're about to have martial law declared

01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:20.680
on this country and it's some real serious fuckery

01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:23.739
happening. But hey, let's just not love that

01:30:23.739 --> 01:30:25.239
grenade. This is the beginning of West Coast

01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:28.840
Cascadia. Let's do it. Speaking of which, that's

01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:34.130
my Instagram, Cascades2C. Cascades2C on Instagram.

01:30:34.130 --> 01:30:36.729
Number two. No. I was like, maybe I should. Oh,

01:30:36.729 --> 01:30:40.310
T -O. Maybe I should get an Instagram and change

01:30:40.310 --> 01:30:45.770
it from R2, San Diego to Seattle. From R2 to

01:30:45.770 --> 01:30:50.750
D2? It could be SD2SEA. All right. What about

01:30:50.750 --> 01:30:54.050
you, Aaron? Where can they find you? Generally,

01:30:54.050 --> 01:30:59.050
just our Discord is TheScuttlebutt. Yeah, that's

01:30:59.050 --> 01:31:01.810
it. I'm just not going to promote me on social

01:31:01.810 --> 01:31:03.770
media when I don't go on there. That's true.

01:31:03.869 --> 01:31:05.369
That's good. Legal -minded punk. That's what

01:31:05.369 --> 01:31:08.489
I am everywhere. I hope you saw the beautiful

01:31:08.489 --> 01:31:11.510
ad at halftime where I appeared in it for Rave

01:31:11.510 --> 01:31:14.310
Foundation. Oh, you did? Apparently. I didn't

01:31:14.310 --> 01:31:15.930
see it. I was looking down at my phone, but Nick

01:31:15.930 --> 01:31:20.149
saw it. I heard like a on his end, and then he

01:31:20.149 --> 01:31:22.850
said, there's you. I'm assuming that's what he

01:31:22.850 --> 01:31:26.229
was talking about. I was masturbating to images

01:31:26.229 --> 01:31:29.359
of you. Oh, good. I was right here. You didn't

01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:33.680
need to do anything. Editor, can you... Well,

01:31:35.380 --> 01:31:37.899
Aaron stepped away at halftime, so I couldn't

01:31:37.899 --> 01:31:41.880
masturbate to him. So I needed something. Oh,

01:31:41.939 --> 01:31:44.359
and my birthday's coming up, and I don't know

01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:45.500
if you still have it on. Do you have that on,

01:31:45.579 --> 01:31:46.819
Aaron? Is that what you're looking at, the beautiful

01:31:46.819 --> 01:31:48.720
image on your screen right now? I'm staring at

01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:52.840
Brad Pitt's ass. F1 the movie. I cannot wait.

01:31:53.420 --> 01:31:56.079
Oh, it's filmed for IMAX. I know what I want

01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:59.939
to do. This episode turned real quick. Yeah.

01:32:00.699 --> 01:32:04.720
Why is some dude that looks like if you ask me

01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:07.079
to draw Caleb Porter from memory on the screen

01:32:07.079 --> 01:32:11.239
right now? He's like the Canadian Caleb Porter.

01:32:11.939 --> 01:32:14.100
Yeah, I'm LegalMightyPunk everywhere. Join the

01:32:14.100 --> 01:32:16.880
Discord. We have a great group of people in there.

01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:19.520
It's less like a bunch of Sounders fans and more

01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:22.539
like a family. You know, we hang out in the stadium

01:32:22.539 --> 01:32:25.840
sometimes now. There's been tailgates. It's good

01:32:25.840 --> 01:32:28.439
times. So get over on the Discord. You can see

01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:33.220
that in the show notes here. And, you know, he

01:32:33.220 --> 01:32:34.979
may not be calling the Club World Cup, but he's

01:32:34.979 --> 01:32:37.439
going to be there as a fan. James Willard, take

01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:41.960
it away. Take it away. You can follow the Sounders

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01:33:21.109 --> 01:33:25.539
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01:33:25.539 --> 01:33:27.500
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01:33:27.500 --> 01:33:29.279
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