He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the point
I can't say is CHEAT! Hello, hello, hello. Welcome
to Sounders Scuttlebutt. I am Aaron Lingley,
and as usual, I am joined by your Alliance Council
extraordinaire, Nicholas Biela. Hello. Good evening,
my friend. How are you? Cameron is on assignment.
Cameron is on assignment, yes. It's been a busy
day today for me. I just picked up Bernadette
from the airport. She was in L .A. for Beyonce's
opening night. last night so oh my uh co -worker
was at the concert drove up from san diego yeah
yeah so so good times there how about yourself
how are you doing um good socal life um contemplating
going to the mariners actually not contemplating
it's going to happen i just don't have tickets
mariners versus padres the better game at 110
The Vedder Cup. Yes, exactly. I'm thinking about
a daddy -daughter date a la the Sounders SDFC
match we went to. Nice. That is on the radar.
Going to maybe join is my idea. I invited some
of the work dads that I have. The kid's about
the same age as Gracie. I think it was like three
of us go with our four - to five -year -old and
have some beers. Love it. Speaking of, I have
my stubby holder in my hand. And I have a drink
ready to inhale. Well, let's definitely do that.
Let's crack these bad boys open. Ready? Let's
crack these bad boys. One, two, three. Ooh, both
pretty good. I think I like yours better. You
got the Rainier. Yeah, I got some Rainier today.
Adam and R. I do. You know, this is going to
be a little bit... I'm getting rid of... I was
going to say, it's going to be a little bit different.
I'd like to start today's episode off with a
little bit of a... You don't want to hear about
my drink first? You know what? Yes. Let's go
for your drink. We've got to have a cheers first.
We do. We do. Sorry. It's not a beer. It's a
high noon. I see. It's a grapefruit high noon,
which these are actually pretty fantastic. It's
got that nice citrus. With the warm weather that
we have. Yeah. It actually is a good balance,
but because it's always warm here. This is pretty
much the constant we have in our fridge right
now just for going to the pool or going to the
park because it is such an outdoor drink. It's
been a while since I've had an IPA. Maybe about
a full four or five days. Are you a grapefruit
rattler kind of person? I don't know what the
last part of that was. What's a rattler? Radler,
like the Schofferhoffers, which is like a 2 %
beer where it's kind of a wheat beer with grapefruit
juice. They're really, really good. You've probably
had the Stiegels. If you've seen the cans, you'd
be like, oh, I know what those are. Well, sorry
for interrupting you while you were describing
your high noon. There's not going to be a good
segue from this. Very important. Yeah, so unfortunately,
I just kind of want to lead off this show by
sending some well wishes to a dear friend in
our soccer community, ECS co -president Tom Biro.
He was involved in an accident Monday around
2 a .m. where he was struck by a wrong -way driver
who fled the scene, hit and run. leaving Tom
with some pretty bad injuries, currently in ICU.
And so just wanted to kind of send out some well
wishes there. He's highly regarded in the Seattle
soccer community. He was my co -coach a few years
ago in Pub League. Just an all -around wonderful
guy. ECS is asking a reminder to donate blood
to Bloodworks Northwest or your local blood bank
if you're able to. Tom is a regular for donating
blood and platelets. And then there is a GoFundMe
for helping out with things regarding this accident.
I think we'll put that in the show notes and
we'll put that in the Discord as well. But really
want to just send... you know, send, send some
love wishes out to someone who doesn't deserve
a hit and run. Um, just, just a great guy and,
and hope he gets a speedy recovery. Yeah. It's
messed up news. Um, and not the first time recently
that I've heard of like a serious, actually one
before was, uh, was fatal. Um, that I heard from
my friend about wrong way driving, like, drunk
on the complete opposite side of the road. And
it's just fucking ridiculous. Don't drink and
drive people. No, I mean, it's terrible. Yeah.
So unfortunately that's kind of starting off
in the show notes in the show notes. I've just
put the link. So there we have it. Perfect. And
there is no good segue into or out of that. However,
I do have a question I wanted to ask you that
is non -sounders or soccer related. I just thought
it'd be kind of a quirky way to start the show.
Do you watch Family Guy? Have you watched Family
Guy? Yeah. Yeah. It's been a little while since
I've seen an episode, but a big fan. Okay. So
there was an episode. I haven't watched it in
a while either, but it just popped in my head
for some reason. I was starting to think of other
irrational things that you could have, like add
to your daily life. For example, in the episode
I was thinking of, Peter Griffin has like his
own theme music that follows him around all day.
You know what I mean? Going the whole Randy Newman.
Yeah. Take a bite out of an apple. It's Randy.
Yeah, I love that. I reference that from time
to time. So, yeah. I'll give you a moment to
think because I already have mine. So what would
be yours, right? Mine would be. you know when
you're watching i don't know if you watch basketball
either college or mba or at really any basketball
but not a lot um from time to time okay i'm sure
you know like when someone dunks or a huge block
yeah you in the background you see the bench
jump up and like hold each other back and you
know do i want for every like cool thing i do
i want in the background of bench to be like
oh shit did you see that I have my own bench
just to kind of like get me going or I'm about
to do something. They all stand up and then I
like don't complete it and they all just kind
of sit down quietly. Yeah. Oh, the scorgasm?
I call that a premature scorgasm where like in
hockey where a shot looks like it's going into
the net and goalie makes a save. Everyone jumps
up to go – and then just kind of – exactly. That's
exactly right. Yeah. So that would be mine. So
that'd be yours. So, so for me, what would, what
would I want as my, as my theme? Irrational.
Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're, you're a rational
addition. You know, honestly, it wouldn't suck
to have a supporter section behind me doing whatever
I'm doing. You know, whether it's when you wake
up, we take a shit. Someone cuts me off. You've
got 300 people screaming, you dirty, cheating
bastard. That's it. Just give me a supporter
section. My own personal supporter section. Yours
is better because it's relevant to the podcast
that we do. No, I actually do love the idea of
a whole bunch of people. following you like down
the street, like holding each other back and
reacting. So I don't think there's a wrong answer
here. But yeah, it's good times. What other kind
of scuttlebutt do you have? Well, we've got a
few actually in our mailbag in the discord. Please
join it. Link is in the show description. So
we have, oh, I guess we should probably mention
that we're coming off a one, one draw against.
Colorado, in Colorado. Yeah, I think we're going
to hit a lot of that for the second half of the
show, right? I just hadn't mentioned it at all.
We started the whole show and we're a Sounders
podcast and didn't even mention that we're coming
off of that performance. So yeah, second half,
we'll talk about that. But Kenny Sloth has a
question here. We got Patrick GC, the regulars.
So yeah, we'll start. Kenny says, how many fans
does Seattle Sounders have? 250K? A million more?
Now, as a data analyst, this is a great question.
Yeah, I was just going to say, I don't know how
I could probably come up with a reasonable number,
but I'm sure you have some thoughts. Well, yeah,
I mean, if I'm going to do this, the way I would
do it is very, very methodical. You'd want to
figure out, one, what represents a fan? How do
you do that? Is it viewership? Is it likes on
Instagram or Twitter, social media, that kind
of stuff? And that's how you would have to come
up with some sort of a system to comparatively
analyze it in comparison to other similar teams.
I don't think you can really just say... oh,
it's this many. There's no way to definitively
know. It's an unknowable question. But that's
what makes it a fun question. What tier do you
think we'd be at? Top five in MLS. Hands down,
absolutely. We'd have top five most fans in MLS,
I would say that. How to compare outside of U
.S. soccer or against other professional sports
teams? I don't know where it'd be interesting.
It would be, would be a comparison of would there
be more Sounders fans than say the lowest attended
NHL team thinking like Arizona coyotes before
they relocated, you know, like, like thinking
about that, trying to think of like, Oh, you
know, because I don't think we're not going to
touch any football team. We're not going to touch
any NFL teams. We're not going to touch any baseball
teams, just longevity and years. Basketball and
hockey are a little more niche, could possibly,
but basketball has become so global in a lot
of ways. It's a really interesting – well, yeah,
but soccer is also – there are an infinite number
of teams almost. The number of professional leagues
around the world in soccer just blows away all
the other sports. And so it is a great question.
it'd be fun to do some comparisons between, oh,
Canadian football teams, NHL teams, and just
see how many followers each team has. And I think
that's how I'd probably try to analyze that.
Just rank them, essentially. But yeah, I mean,
Sounders' breadth, if we could correlate it to
our viewership, we're in Japan, Canada, the United
States of America. We have... I think it's on
Mozambique, Norway, Italy, Guatemala, Mexico,
Portugal, Australia, Singapore. Yeah, there's
Mozambique, Greece. I don't believe these to
be bots, so we actually do have people that are
at least listening in these cities because there
is like a bot filter. Oh, and our cat listens
to us. Oh, yeah, cats love... Argentina, Andorra,
Germany, France, United Kingdom, Sri Lanka. Yeah,
so... You know, there's at least one sounder
fan in all these countries. So that gives you
an idea of the breadth of the... So just to give
you a little context, on Twitter, there are 563
,000 followers. On Facebook, there's 786 ,000
followers. Instagram, there's 383 ,000 followers.
So, I mean, that kind of gives you a starting
point. I would definitely suggest that your cat's
hungry. I'm going to go ahead and let my cat
out. Your cat's hungry. So yeah, while you're
letting, who let the cats out? Who, who, who,
who? I would probably say that one, I'd question
like what's the, how relevant that number might
be. I like the team, you like the team, we all
like the team, great. But it is a fun question
to ask, you know? And so in the end, how much
does it matter how many fans there are? I'm not
entirely sure, but I think it'd be more easier
to compare against other teams versus just to
come up with a number for us. That's my thought.
Patrick GC says, did Rosario, the little one,
First team contract win. They can keep him loaned
down, but I feel he should get locked in. Do
they have roster space for him and the under
-22? I don't know what De Rosario is doing right
now, to be honest. I don't know. Is he doing
good? Do you know? Yeah, I mean, Tacoma's pretty
offensive. Good enough to have this question?
Yeah. I'm not entirely... I trust the process
and I trust the team on this, but the jump between
MLS next pro, to MLS is quite significant. Let's
put it this way. I would 100 % take Danny Mussofsky
even when he was struggling. I would take Jesus
Ferreira 100 % over De Rosario as a forward.
We do this as Sounders fans quite a bit where
we... We see success in some of lower division
levels, and we want that to happen for us on
the larger part. And more often than not, it
doesn't. Think Olex Anderson. Think Andy Craven
back in the day. However, I'm not going to say
that it's without success because, honestly,
I kind of put Paul Rothrock in that. same boat
when he was scoring in his first three appearances
as a sounder you know it was like a i didn't
believe that he had what it takes to be a first
teamer that it was more of a you know more of
a oh that's just a really good run that's good
for him but he's not gonna make it into this
level so i could be wrong but i in the end i
trust the club to make that decision because
my talent evaluation skills are nowhere near
theirs Yeah, and I honestly couldn't give you
just an answer other than I'm not ready to see
any more tinkering as we get players back. I
want to get them in the rotation. Jordan's on
the bench. We have a brand new signing also on
the on offensive player. I will I'll ask it right
now because we're talking about forwards and
I think it's getting a little. ironically log
jammed because of production from Moose right
I don't think adding a De Rosario to the depth
I don't think it would be good for him I don't
think he's going to get playing time but what
do I know yeah I mean in the end the in the end
the club's going to do the right thing They get
it right more than they get it wrong. I also
don't believe they're going to want to give De
Rosario a contract because they're probably looking
for an under -22 signing in that forward position.
That's probably where they're going to look to
sign a U -22. So if you do that, you're not really
giving him an opportunity to play into the first
team. I also don't know how long his contract
is. Next Pro contracts don't get released publicly
in the same way that MLS ones do. So outside
of a random news dump, I'm just not going to
know how long he's under contract. Do you know
anyone that is... understands the MLS roster
construction I guess more specifically the Sounders
that could explain it to like a layman that like
knows it better than like maybe you and Cameron
like truly because I've always been like I think
it's one it's because the league has evolved
so much and in the last probably five six years
I've stopped really digging too deep into the
mechanics of our league not that i was digging
deep before but i think that would be maybe a
good kind of like can we have a teaching segment
in a like a patreon episode or something like
that it's like here's how our roster is constructed
and why and here's what we cannot do and what
we can do even if we had this kind of money we
you know i'm just there are definitely some people
that i would think about um whether or not they
would be available for an interview a couple
of the people that i'm thinking about are no
longer with the sounders um but that's oh i just
meant anybody yeah um well most of the information
is actually out there the mls roster rules are
there i don't want to do that no i i get that
chat gpt it or get a human being no no i get
it i get it i don't do any work Well, that's
the thing. You've seen me with the FIFA Club
World Cup stuff and the Champions League and
the World Cup. I read those regulations because
I'm very interested and I geek out over that
stuff. I've done the same thing with the roster
rules as well, but I'm not going to say I'm an
expert at it. But I do have a pretty good understanding
of it. But there are definitely some people whose
opinions I trust quite a bit when it comes to
some of that. Some of those mechanisms, especially
when you're talking about those supplemental
spots and the way those hit the cap differently
and such. And that's something that you love
and hate about the MLS for sure. Hey, you know,
I do have a little bit of a scuttlebutt that
I wanted to kind of quickly toss out there. Tomorrow
morning. Ballard FC will be officially launching
their annual artist jersey. Every year they do
a community kit. They do a third jersey with
a local artist. One year it was Henry, but they
do a local jersey. Stevie Chow was last year's
kit. And they've all been really good. But they've
teased a little bit of it this morning. And what
they teased was really interesting because what
they teased is the badge being a lenticular badge.
So that depending on how you view the badge,
it will change and that it's going to be. one
part of the badge will say Ballard FC. The other
part of the badge will be the, will be the Salmon
Bay FC, which is the ladies team. And it's the
Sarah Robbins kit. Looks like there's going to
be some sort of palm trees or some sort of, yeah,
I'm not entirely sure, but I'm, I'm, I'm very
curious to see how that's weird. Well, I'm only
seeing, you're only seeing like, Three square
inches of the jersey. Reserve judgment. Yeah,
so it looks kind of tropical, I guess I would
say. But I'm very excited to see because, honestly,
the Ballard FC jerseys have been fire. They really
have. Give me the link. I'll put it in the show
notes. Well, by the time we post this, we'll
actually have the actual jersey launch. Oh, really?
When does it come out? It should be tomorrow.
It's tomorrow? Never mind. But still. Go check
it out, everyone. Just so you can take a look
at it. But yeah, it's good stuff. Ballard, actually,
they're using a Canadian manufacturer called
Anaria. And they've just been coming up with
some really good designs in their jerseys. Really
like the work they've done. So hats off to Ballard
for that. uh we got some more scuttlebutt stuff
going on the henry one that was pretty good yeah
alex diaz uh looks like he actually forwarded
something from these the match day channel um
what's worse the peach ant we're throwing beer
on everyone um i mean i'm gonna go with one's
just blatantly offensive the other one is disrespectful
but it's not it's But sometimes, like, when are
you throwing the beer? Is it after a major goal?
Is it like in LAFC is the one that throws a beer
after every goal, which I know you also need
to know where you're sitting. But I don't know.
Yeah, I would be less pissed off if I guess if
I brought Gracie, I would not want to explain
the first one. I would I would just say someone
had an accident and move seats and be angry about
it. But. I've definitely been soaked by beer
and liked it. Both of them are not great. If
I'm going to be soaked in beer, we better have
just won a championship, not scored a goal on
a Saturday afternoon to make it 2 -1. The only
time I've gotten soaked with beer was Game 7,
Detroit Red Rings versus Colorado Avalanche.
I'm wearing my Dominik Hasek Czech Republic jersey.
We're in a Detroit sports bar in Denver. And
Denver, right across the street from the Detroit
sports bar, is the main Avalanche bar. And it's
just this really fun, you know, rivalry for sure.
And that game was a winner goes on to the Stanley
Cup finals. Game seven, Hasek versus Patrick
Waugh. And after the first period, Detroit was
up five or six nothing. It just one of those
things. It was almost like the Women's World
Cup game where 15 minutes into the game, the
game was over and there was no. There was no
drama. But in the midst of all these goals, just.
beer just kept getting just tossed everywhere
and I still have some beer stains on my jersey
it really pissed me off for a long time right
away but now when I look at those stains I kind
of think of that night and I'm like okay that
was kind of special but if that happened on just
basically any other game other than that fuck
those people so with that in mind I would prefer
To see the beer throwing because, and this is
my logical brain, it's a lot easier to kick out
the person throwing the beer than to try and
identify who was the one that said the P chant
and get them out of there. Both behaviors absolutely
should lead to ejection from the stadium. I want
neither of them anywhere in my soccer stadium,
but the beer throwing is a lot easier to identify.
So that's where. I'd rather have that just because
I can get them removed. Fair enough. I think
the only time I've been soaked by beer was at
a concert and that was in the pit. Totally reasonable.
I'm thinking it was Fall of Troy, which is not
my particular type of music, but I usually...
chameleon myself at a live show and i was in
the pit and it's like a screamo band and people
were going nuts and it was kind of fun i just
kind of went with it it was already i was pretty
drunk too but but i think you saw i think it'd
be 21 you touched on the part of that that is
really important is is when you know in advance
that that's the kind of atmosphere you're going
into prepare accordingly yeah you know if i know
i'm going to an insane clown posse show or a
um Or who are the ones that dress up in the big
penis costumes? Gwar. Gwar, thank you. If I know
I'm going to one of those shows, I know I'm wearing
stuff that's going to get destroyed. I'm dressing
appropriately. You don't go to a Sarah McLachlan
show and expect to get a beer dumped on you.
We're a voodoo chant. And then just like throwing
beer, you know, yeah. Just things you don't expect.
It's funny. I crack myself up sometimes, I guess.
But that is a great question. Both of them absolutely
suck. Both suck. All right. What do you say?
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All right, let's see if we can get to the through
review of this match without my cat joining in.
His name is Captain James Hook, by the way. Love
it. All right, so we play Colorado. In Colorado.
So, 5 ,000 feet up, what have you. 1 -0. Sorry,
not 1 -0. 1 -1. Road draw. Goal scored. Didn't
have our best players starting. and there's been
some negativity, including Cameron said he's
not able to make it tonight to us, but he did
say he has nothing good to say anyway. Yeah,
I don't get it. Nothing positive to take away.
Let's start with the lineup. First off, it looks
like Brian Schmetzer wanted to continue to reward
the players who had been performing in the last
two games, the Nashville 3 -0 win. the 1 -0 Dallas
game on the road because we saw Danny Mussofsky
start. You know, we saw Kim Keehy again. We saw
Paul Rothrock. No Albert Rusnak. No Jordan Morris.
We didn't see any of that. I kind of felt I could
take it or leave it. You know, I get it. I get
it. Long season. What were your thoughts on the
lineup? Like, the lineup? I didn't really think
too much of it. I was pretty much the same as
you. It's like, okay, this has been productive.
We just came off 3 -0. Pretty good match. And
I actually predicted we'd have multi -score,
probably another shutout, just because we just
witnessed that against Nashville, who... destroyed
who did they just who did they just play nashville
oh this week they they put a seventh spot up
on uh was it st not st louis chicago thank you
seven two is what i ended up but it was seven
nothing with no red cards so i mean chicago is
terrible but um still they are humans and they're
in your way and keep in mind five first half
goals yeah that's ridiculous so we just scored
three first half goals against them and then
yeah we're on the road it's we've i think we
have a winning record against colorado but that's
including at home i feel like i think if you
mentioned this before in colorado we and like
the high altitude you know locations we struggle
obviously Yeah, it hasn't been as bad as Real
Salt Lake, but you're not wrong. Yeah, that's
the worst. We've done okay in Colorado, but I
also feel like we're constantly not getting our
first choice lineups in Colorado. I feel like
that happens a lot. So, yeah, I was happy with
the lineup. I wasn't considering what we just
witnessed the week before. And I was expecting
to see Ryan Kent a little earlier. He didn't.
He didn't even come on at all. Wait, against?
Did I miss that? Yeah, you did. He came on in
the 75th inning. Oh, that's right. So he still
got 15. 71st. I was expecting more like 20 or
30, but I'm happy with it. Now I do recall. He
got his 20, yeah. I think I was upset because
he wasn't in yet, but it's also I'm getting nitpicky.
Kosa Rienzi had a great game. literally had an
assist, and he's been really showing up. I'm
taking his opportunity. Yeah, I can see that.
Road draw? I'm happy with the road draw. Yeah,
I'm happy with the road draw. I think where I'm
going to suspect that where people are frustrated
is that This game was largely dominated by Colorado.
It just felt like they were the ones dictating
how the game was being played. They weren't dominating
in shots or even expected goals. They did get
more shots, but only four on target. Those game
state graphs, I'm not sure exactly how they measure
that. The five -minute intervals? Yeah, the momentum
meters. I think it's just possession. I feel
like it's got to be a little more than that,
but I really don't know. I don't think it is.
I think it's possession. Literally, actually,
the stat on here right now, I'm on the website
for the stats. It says possession. It has the
five -minute intervals. Okay, interesting, because
what I'm showing you is very... Very red. Very
red. But I thought defensively, I thought we
played a really good game. I had spoken earlier
that Georgie Mihaljevic, you don't want to give
him a free kick. And I think that's where some
people, there was some consternation on our Discord
during our match day thread with Georgie Mihaljevic.
taking that free kick and the wall jumping, but
that's what the wall is supposed to do. I know.
Sometimes you get caught with your pants down
on that. It's a risky shot to take, but I wasn't
upset with it. And Georgie has scored multiple
free kicks from within five yards of that spot.
And so I'm not shocked that that happened. As
a matter of fact... leading up to it when the
foul was called i'm like oh fuck here we go did
not feel good about that um i mean i i was more
upset really with how the match started and then
then it evened out for me and i was like okay
we took we could when we had our backs against
the ropes for the first 20 minutes 25 minutes
could have been three or four nothing legitimately
i think you know without roland saving that off
the line, doing what he was supposed to do on
a corner kick without the one minute later, another
corner kick from the same corner. They had it
just over the bar. That was like, get your shit
together, guys. And literally, thanks to Roldan,
it wasn't 2 -0. Real 1 -0, thanks to Roldan.
And then that Bassett... yeah off the post i
mean kim keehee showed that he still got enough
gas to affect that shot but he still should have
scored oh reagan probably catches up and shoulders
him off but still i loved come on i i loved the
effort from kim keehee to to basically not give
him the ability to cut towards the center of
the net minimizing that opportunity. He literally
didn't touch the ball or touch him in any way,
but the way he got back prevented him from being
able to do that, so great play. A little disappointed
in Yamar this game. Yamar did not have his best
game. I will say that was a bit of a criticism
for me. I will also say that I think the other
part that gets people a little upset is that
90th minute. where we have that breakout and
Jordan starts sprinting down the line and pulls
up with an injury. And that was really worrying.
And the latest news on that is that he has undergone
a second MRI. That was this morning. The first
MRI was unclear. So they should know tomorrow
what's going to happen. So he's almost certainly
going to be out for, the next game. I would expect
him to be out for the next game. Hopefully it's
just not bad. We'll see what happens there. He
finished the match though, right? No, no. He
did get subbed off at the very, very end. I must
have missed that. I know I actually watched the
match that night, which is rare for me, but I
know the last 15 minutes was kind of funky. Literally
90th minute. Okay. Wonderful. But that kind of
leads to a point that I jotted down on my notes
here is that Moose, and I mentioned earlier,
Moose's production. I mean, if this is a time
we really need to kind of sit Morris down for
longer, clearly he's going to be out. But to
really take our time, make sure it's right for
maybe the playoff push because he's... Seems
a little tender. Moose, is this production real?
Yes and no. Yes and no. I mean, you know what?
I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes. The
goals haven't been sexy. They've been opportunistic.
The Nashville goal was sexy where he makes that
deflection, that kind of jump kick with his heel.
That was sexy. Yeah, that was nice. This is going
back to last season. How many times I feel like
a broken record where I'd say what I love about
Moose is he keeps putting himself in dangerous
positions. He's putting himself in opportunities
to make those tap -in goals, to make those dirty
Dave Anderchuk, if we're going old school 80s
hockey, Dino Cicerelli type of, you know, get
in the crease and just bang it home from two
feet out. And he's doing that, and I was really
loving his efforts on that. And so now this is
just kind of everything coming good. You keep
putting yourself in those positions, your opportunities
will come. And he was snake bit a little bit
in the past, and right now he's got a good run
where he keeps doing the same thing he's been
doing. I'm not sure he's changing much, but now
those balls are falling to him. So great. I'm
thrilled, and this is kind of what I... could
be what we expect to see from him. He is our
leading goal scorer with three. He's got no assists.
Expected goals is four and a half. And I do remember
he started the season missing some sitters. But
yeah, he and Jordan Morris each have three with
50 more minutes and five more games. There was
a really interesting stat. Misofsky. No, don't
do that. Don't do what? Did you call him Misofsky?
Misofsky. I've had a whole nine noon. Give me
a break. No, no, no. I thought you were criticizing
when he would miss those sitters calling him
Misofsky. Oh, I should have. That would have
been great. Damn it. Yes, I did say that. But
someone came up with the stat. I'm not sure where
I heard this. It might have been one of our fellow
podcasts. But it was somewhere when Jordan or
Danny Mussofsky are on the field, we are outscoring
teams by a ridiculous margin. Our XGs are much
better. When neither of those two forwards are
on the field, we're getting outscored 5 -0. And
it's not looking pretty. So I think that kind
of talks about the idea is that that could be
a sign that having a true forward in this system,
because we've largely played mostly the same
formations for the most part throughout the season,
could be a good thing. And we're pretty stable
and consistent around midfield and back. Yeah.
And so now what happens next week? Let's assume
Jordan's out. It's almost certain that he's out.
Yeah. You know, what's going to happen? Do you
put Mussofsky up there? Three goals in three
games? I think you kind of do. I don't think
you screw around with testing out new formations.
But the question is, what do you do about Albert
Rusnak, got 40 minutes in this game. What do
you do about Ryan Kent who got 21 minutes or
19 minutes in this game plus stoppage time? So
some attacking options who might be able to eat
some minutes. Could Ryan Kent come in as a forward?
I have no idea. I don't think so. We do have
some attacking options, and just figuring out
how to put them in a formation against a stubborn
St. Louis team who we've already seen this year.
We've already talked about how stubborn they
are. It'll be interesting to see. Do you want
to do the preview now, or do you have anything
else to add about that Colorado match? I thought
it was well -officiated. I think we'll give a
little shout -out. Yeah, I think we'll give a
shout -out to Josh Atencio starting against us.
Yeah. Yeah, and at one moment there was a little
bit of physicality between him and Rothrock,
and they were both kind of laughing at each other
about it. But I kind of like seeing that. And
I like seeing that he's getting minutes because
I always liked him, but our young midfield was
just too stacked for his time with us. And I'm
happy with Obed. I think the announcer said it.
I think we said it when the original trade got
mentioned. It's kind of one of those win -win
-win situations. Atencio gets to play. We got...
good value out of it in over a million in gam
uh and then colorado gets a player they need
in a position of need i mean he's been he's been
playing in almost all of their games he's been
in nine matches this year and he's been really
solid for that team so um good for him just really
really happy for him yeah um and Let's see. I
think that's... Yeah, we don't have to talk about
that. I'm looking at my notes here. Yeah, let's
get to a little preview. Who do we got coming
up next? St. Louis City. We get to play St. Louis
at home. St. Louis, who we lost to 1 -0 earlier
this year, as you may remember. There was that
early goal from them. And then just basically...
We kept putting the pressure on, but they just
bunkered down, and we just couldn't get anything
out of that. It was also a game where we didn't
have Jordan. We didn't have Pedro de la Vega.
We tried to start Jesus Ferreira up top, and
that didn't quite work. That was one of those
aforementioned games where, Mussofsky was not
on the field until the 64th minute. So in the
end, I'm excited to see the tables turn. I'm
very excited that one of St. Louis City's big
players in their defensive midfield, Alfredo
Morales, got a red card, so he will not be available.
That's a damn shame. So they'll be down a key.
a key player in that match. Tough doggies. That's
a damn show. I want to win. I like winning. I
don't want to win. Here's to that. Where are
they in the standings? They're 12th in the Western
Conference with 10 points, two wins, four losses.
four draws, seven goals, four and eight against
negative one goal differential, if you can do
math. Yeah, this should be... We're at home.
Yeah, this should be a win. We've got enough
attacking options that we should be able to find
goals at home. I think you're absolutely right.
And only eight goals against, though. That's
pretty. No, but Berkey still got a broken hand.
They have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
players on their injury report, along with the
suspended player. So they are a little battered.
Hopefully we can take advantage of that. been
struggling as of late since we played them. They've
lost three, tied two. Three straight losses followed
by their most two recent games as ties. But the
two ties were against Vancouver 0 -0 and LAFC
2 -2. Yeah, because they're not scoring either.
Yeah. So we'll see what happens there. I do expect
us to come out guns blazing. I'd like to see
us... I'd be curious to see if Ryan Kent gets
a start over Paul Rothrock. I don't know if he
starts. I think it all depends, honestly. It
depends on what... This is where our depth comes
into play. This is the situation where Brian
gets to take a look at our players and go, okay,
what players can I utilize specifically to attack
St. Louis' style? And that's a great position
we have where in previous years it's like, well,
here are our 11 starters. This is pretty much
we can predict who our starters are going to
be. Now I think this season there are a number
of positions where I have no idea who's going
to start. And I kind of like that. And it's not
because of being ineffectual. It's because we
actually have talent options. So really excited
about that. What was, oh, one other thing about
this week we haven't talked about. Do you plan
on watching tomorrow the Inter -Miami Vancouver
CONCACAF Champions Cup semifinal? I hadn't thought
about it. I think I will probably turn it on,
though. Because at this point... Not live, but
like my usual 10 p .m. throw something non -falsive
on the couch thing, yeah. Because Vancouver got
the home result. They won 2 -0, and they looked
pretty damn good doing it. So they held Miami
to a shutout. So Vancouver gets a road goal tomorrow,
and Miami's going to need four goals to win.
Is that math right? Yeah, because 3 -3. Yeah,
so Vancouver scores one goal. Miami needs four.
I don't trust Miami's defense to get a shutout,
but I also don't know if Vancouver is going to
be trying to play for a 0 -0. I don't think that's
the right approach to take if I'm Vancouver.
Like, if you're going to bunker, you're opening
yourself up to getting destroyed. But it will
be very interesting. Both teams kind of left
a lot up. They played a rotated squad on Sunday.
Vancouver getting the 3 -1 win. Miami losing
to Dallas 4 -3. So we'll see. But I am excited.
I think in the end what I really don't want is
I don't really want an MLS team to win CONCACAF
if it's not us. If it's not us, yeah. I agree.
But if a team's going to win it, I'd be okay
if it's Vancouver. I want no joy from Miami.
I definitely want no joy from Miami on that,
especially this year in particular. What if it
was Portland? If it was Portland, Miami. If it
was Portland or Miami? No, they were playing
each other. I'd probably go Borland. As much
as I hate it, a successful Cascadia makes all
of us better. Keep in mind, from 2011 to something
stupid like 2023, one of us, Seattle or Portland,
was in the Western Conference final. Yeah, I
know. I know. It's another logical answer. That
doesn't mean it feels good, and I don't want
to talk about it anymore. But crazy enough, it
was never both of us. We were never in the Western
Conference finals against each other. That is
weird. It's almost like the late 80s, early 90s,
where it was always either San Francisco or...
Buffalo with success, but they never played each
other in the super bowl, you know, but like one
of those two teams from basically 88 to anyways,
moving on. So how about this? How about this?
Let's rapid fire. Okay. Because we don't know
what the, the lineup is going to be. Let's just
come up with one. Okay. You do yours. I'll do
mine. And then we will just say our predictions
and have James take us away. That sounds like
fun. I already wrote mine out, so I'm going to
do it. That sounds like a good idea. All right.
Up top, Moose. Della Vega, Rosnack, Jesus, CR7,
Obed. So this is a three -band behind Moose.
And then you got your two defensive midfielders
right there, Obed, Christian, and then... knew
who bell yamar alex fry no one's injured right
no one got injured in the last minute of the
match that i'm unaware of that that's not named
jordan morris yeah okay i mean i'm gonna go say
go ahead and say my prediction while you keep
thinking yeah um I'm going to say it is going
to be 1 -0 us and Jesus gets his first goal.
Okay. Remind me to put that on my prediction
sheet you drop in the Discord. Speaking of which,
big success to Dan the Bastard, who's had a nice
run this year. He's won a few of these. He's
owning everyone. He got all five points. He got
Danny Mussofsky. One of three of us. I also chose
Danny Masovsky. And I think Alex Diaz also chose
Danny Masovsky. And then got the score right
and everything. So good job on you. Once again,
if you want to join us on that, I post it every
match day. At the end of the season, we'll give
a prize to whoever has the highest overall score.
But then we'll also have another prize for everyone
that has participated in any game. So if you
participate in five games, we'll get five entries.
You participate in 20 games, you'll get 20 entries.
And this way, even if you're not playing every
single week, you still have opportunities to
win something cool. And right now, I'll be honest,
I have a few different ideas. I've got some stuff
that I think you might appreciate, but we'll
come up with some good stuff. You kind of have
to do this because you need to get rid of some
of this shit. Both you and Cameron are hoarders
of Sounders memorabilia. You say it like a bad
thing. Or just used clothing. No, it's not. It's
just the opposite of me, and I respect it. It's
between money, time, and I don't know. I don't
know. I do want more stuff, but it doesn't matter.
Come on. What's your lineup? Okay, so we're going
to start with Fry and Goal. We are going to do
New Who, Kim Kihee, and Yamar in the back three.
I think we're going to do... Kim is our difference.
I think we're going to do... I think we're going
to do Kent at home. I think we're going to do
Kent instead of Rothrock. We're going to do Obed
and Christian. And Alex instead of KKR. Instead
of Kosarienzi. So the roll -downs will play side
-by -side. With, oh my God, if I do that, then
this doesn't make sense, but okay. Then we're
going to do Musafsky. No. Yeah. How do you not
put Albert in? It's like, dude. I did. Well,
that's the thing. It's like, how do I take out
one of De La Vega, Mussovsky, Ferreira to put
in Albert? You know, I don't know, man. I don't
know. Okay, so I think Moose gets subbed out
for Kent shortly after. So probably around the
60 -minute mark, maybe even longer. And Jesus
moves up top. I think that's going to happen.
So it would be Kent. Rosnack, De La Vega across
the attacking band in front of Christian and
Obed who are in front of Tolo, Bell, Yamar, and
Alex. I think just mileage on Kim playing the
last few matches. I think Bell, who's shown well,
deserves some minutes. And Alex as well deserves
some minutes. It'll be a 4 -2 -3 -1. Okay. Interesting.
Which they're familiar with. Right? It's not
like it's a big change. We pretty much play that
way until we get the ball. Yeah. Between a five
-man back line and... Yeah, the line of prediction,
I just... Again, we just have champagne problems
in that we have high -quality people who can
start every game where you can't get it for all
of them to be starting every game. So... So that's
why I think it's just a fun exercise to do it
specifically for this one. Knowing it's like,
hey, we're not coming up with best 11. How do
we use them all at once? It's just not going
to happen. Yeah, doing it on the fly is really
tough, by the way. I wish you would have given
me a heads up. I did it on the fly. I just used
Excel. I am. I don't mean that. Thank you. Thank
you. You're good. Score, what do you think? We're
at home. We're playing St. Louis, who's very
injury depleted. St. Louis is going to try and
make it a 0 -0 game. If we can get that early
goal, we can get many goals. If we can get that
early goal, we can win 3 -0. If we can't get
that early goal, it's going to be a 1 -0 game.
I'm going to have optimism that we're going to
get three goals, so I'm going to say 3 -0. Yeah.
All right. I reserve the right to change my mind
when I see the lineup. Yeah, well, we're not
recording again, so you can put that in your
match day prediction. That's right. I've done
that a few times where my match day prediction
has not matched up with my pregame prediction.
Oh, I certainly have because I usually forget
what I've said. God, I'm a forgetful SOB. Well,
where can they find you, good sir? Well, they
can find me in our Discord. I am thescuttlebutt
on there, but also Instagram, Aaron Lingley,
and Twitter, Aaron Lingley. All right. What about
you? Well, on Discord, I am Nicholas, and on
Instagram, I am Cascades2C. and i just don't
really post much on twitter so i don't really
use it it's just mostly to catch up on news and
that i really just want to answer you guys just
answer you guys when you guys say that because
i i honestly don't remember the last time i logged
into to twitter so um you can add me if you want
but discord is where i will be probably talking
or you know um Maybe I'll get on Instagram a
little bit more. I have no problem going on Instagram,
and I want to, but anyway, it doesn't matter.
Indeed. Well, and of course, Cameron is Legal
Minded Punk. All our little links are in the
show description, too. Yeah, pretty much, right?
Pretty much. Pretty much. Well, yeah, pretty
much. I can't think of another one. No. No. He's
Legal Minded Punk. He's Lego -minded punk. And
we miss him. And I'm sure he'll be on the next
one. And then you two guys are setting up our
Ultras segments, right? Yeah, I think he's working
on that right now, kind of communicating to figure
out how we're going to set that format up. But
it'll be fun adding a little different spice
to our episodes. But in the end, looking forward
to seeing how that goes. Yeah, I think it's cool.
I love that he just didn't tell us. We're like,
okay. That sounds good. Well, I mean, it's like
when I used our funds to go to Tahiti. I just
kind of did that without telling you. I know
you guys were upset at me, but... We're a forgiving
bunch. I know. I took advantage of that. And
I'm sorry. All right, well, we should also take
advantage of the relationship that you guys have
with James, who was polite enough to give us
an outro on this wonderful show that we do. So,
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