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He's a tough kid. All I gotta say is the point

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I can't say is CHEAT! Hello, hello, hello. Welcome

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to Sounders Scuttlebutt. I am Aaron Lingley,

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and as usual, I am joined by your Alliance Council

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extraordinaire, Nicholas Biela. Hello. Good evening,

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my friend. How are you? Cameron is on assignment.

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Cameron is on assignment, yes. It's been a busy

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day today for me. I just picked up Bernadette

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from the airport. She was in L .A. for Beyonce's

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opening night. last night so oh my uh co -worker

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was at the concert drove up from san diego yeah

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yeah so so good times there how about yourself

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how are you doing um good socal life um contemplating

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going to the mariners actually not contemplating

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it's going to happen i just don't have tickets

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mariners versus padres the better game at 110

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The Vedder Cup. Yes, exactly. I'm thinking about

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a daddy -daughter date a la the Sounders SDFC

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match we went to. Nice. That is on the radar.

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Going to maybe join is my idea. I invited some

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of the work dads that I have. The kid's about

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the same age as Gracie. I think it was like three

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of us go with our four - to five -year -old and

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have some beers. Love it. Speaking of, I have

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my stubby holder in my hand. And I have a drink

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ready to inhale. Well, let's definitely do that.

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Let's crack these bad boys open. Ready? Let's

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crack these bad boys. One, two, three. Ooh, both

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pretty good. I think I like yours better. You

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got the Rainier. Yeah, I got some Rainier today.

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Adam and R. I do. You know, this is going to

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be a little bit... I'm getting rid of... I was

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going to say, it's going to be a little bit different.

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I'd like to start today's episode off with a

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little bit of a... You don't want to hear about

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my drink first? You know what? Yes. Let's go

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for your drink. We've got to have a cheers first.

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We do. We do. Sorry. It's not a beer. It's a

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high noon. I see. It's a grapefruit high noon,

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which these are actually pretty fantastic. It's

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got that nice citrus. With the warm weather that

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we have. Yeah. It actually is a good balance,

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but because it's always warm here. This is pretty

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much the constant we have in our fridge right

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now just for going to the pool or going to the

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park because it is such an outdoor drink. It's

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been a while since I've had an IPA. Maybe about

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a full four or five days. Are you a grapefruit

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rattler kind of person? I don't know what the

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last part of that was. What's a rattler? Radler,

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like the Schofferhoffers, which is like a 2 %

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beer where it's kind of a wheat beer with grapefruit

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juice. They're really, really good. You've probably

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had the Stiegels. If you've seen the cans, you'd

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be like, oh, I know what those are. Well, sorry

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for interrupting you while you were describing

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your high noon. There's not going to be a good

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segue from this. Very important. Yeah, so unfortunately,

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I just kind of want to lead off this show by

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sending some well wishes to a dear friend in

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our soccer community, ECS co -president Tom Biro.

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He was involved in an accident Monday around

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2 a .m. where he was struck by a wrong -way driver

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who fled the scene, hit and run. leaving Tom

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with some pretty bad injuries, currently in ICU.

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And so just wanted to kind of send out some well

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wishes there. He's highly regarded in the Seattle

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soccer community. He was my co -coach a few years

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ago in Pub League. Just an all -around wonderful

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guy. ECS is asking a reminder to donate blood

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to Bloodworks Northwest or your local blood bank

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if you're able to. Tom is a regular for donating

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blood and platelets. And then there is a GoFundMe

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for helping out with things regarding this accident.

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I think we'll put that in the show notes and

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we'll put that in the Discord as well. But really

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want to just send... you know, send, send some

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love wishes out to someone who doesn't deserve

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a hit and run. Um, just, just a great guy and,

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and hope he gets a speedy recovery. Yeah. It's

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messed up news. Um, and not the first time recently

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that I've heard of like a serious, actually one

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before was, uh, was fatal. Um, that I heard from

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my friend about wrong way driving, like, drunk

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on the complete opposite side of the road. And

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it's just fucking ridiculous. Don't drink and

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drive people. No, I mean, it's terrible. Yeah.

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So unfortunately that's kind of starting off

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in the show notes in the show notes. I've just

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put the link. So there we have it. Perfect. And

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there is no good segue into or out of that. However,

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I do have a question I wanted to ask you that

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is non -sounders or soccer related. I just thought

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it'd be kind of a quirky way to start the show.

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Do you watch Family Guy? Have you watched Family

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Guy? Yeah. Yeah. It's been a little while since

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I've seen an episode, but a big fan. Okay. So

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there was an episode. I haven't watched it in

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a while either, but it just popped in my head

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for some reason. I was starting to think of other

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irrational things that you could have, like add

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to your daily life. For example, in the episode

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I was thinking of, Peter Griffin has like his

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own theme music that follows him around all day.

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You know what I mean? Going the whole Randy Newman.

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Yeah. Take a bite out of an apple. It's Randy.

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Yeah, I love that. I reference that from time

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to time. So, yeah. I'll give you a moment to

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think because I already have mine. So what would

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be yours, right? Mine would be. you know when

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you're watching i don't know if you watch basketball

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either college or mba or at really any basketball

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but not a lot um from time to time okay i'm sure

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you know like when someone dunks or a huge block

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yeah you in the background you see the bench

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jump up and like hold each other back and you

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know do i want for every like cool thing i do

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i want in the background of bench to be like

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oh shit did you see that I have my own bench

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just to kind of like get me going or I'm about

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to do something. They all stand up and then I

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like don't complete it and they all just kind

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of sit down quietly. Yeah. Oh, the scorgasm?

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I call that a premature scorgasm where like in

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hockey where a shot looks like it's going into

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the net and goalie makes a save. Everyone jumps

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up to go – and then just kind of – exactly. That's

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exactly right. Yeah. So that would be mine. So

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that'd be yours. So, so for me, what would, what

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would I want as my, as my theme? Irrational.

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Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're, you're a rational

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addition. You know, honestly, it wouldn't suck

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to have a supporter section behind me doing whatever

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I'm doing. You know, whether it's when you wake

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up, we take a shit. Someone cuts me off. You've

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got 300 people screaming, you dirty, cheating

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bastard. That's it. Just give me a supporter

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section. My own personal supporter section. Yours

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is better because it's relevant to the podcast

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that we do. No, I actually do love the idea of

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a whole bunch of people. following you like down

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the street, like holding each other back and

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reacting. So I don't think there's a wrong answer

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here. But yeah, it's good times. What other kind

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of scuttlebutt do you have? Well, we've got a

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few actually in our mailbag in the discord. Please

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join it. Link is in the show description. So

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we have, oh, I guess we should probably mention

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that we're coming off a one, one draw against.

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Colorado, in Colorado. Yeah, I think we're going

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to hit a lot of that for the second half of the

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show, right? I just hadn't mentioned it at all.

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We started the whole show and we're a Sounders

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podcast and didn't even mention that we're coming

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off of that performance. So yeah, second half,

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we'll talk about that. But Kenny Sloth has a

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question here. We got Patrick GC, the regulars.

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So yeah, we'll start. Kenny says, how many fans

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does Seattle Sounders have? 250K? A million more?

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Now, as a data analyst, this is a great question.

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Yeah, I was just going to say, I don't know how

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I could probably come up with a reasonable number,

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but I'm sure you have some thoughts. Well, yeah,

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I mean, if I'm going to do this, the way I would

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do it is very, very methodical. You'd want to

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figure out, one, what represents a fan? How do

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you do that? Is it viewership? Is it likes on

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Instagram or Twitter, social media, that kind

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of stuff? And that's how you would have to come

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up with some sort of a system to comparatively

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analyze it in comparison to other similar teams.

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I don't think you can really just say... oh,

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it's this many. There's no way to definitively

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know. It's an unknowable question. But that's

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what makes it a fun question. What tier do you

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think we'd be at? Top five in MLS. Hands down,

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absolutely. We'd have top five most fans in MLS,

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I would say that. How to compare outside of U

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.S. soccer or against other professional sports

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teams? I don't know where it'd be interesting.

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It would be, would be a comparison of would there

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be more Sounders fans than say the lowest attended

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NHL team thinking like Arizona coyotes before

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they relocated, you know, like, like thinking

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about that, trying to think of like, Oh, you

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know, because I don't think we're not going to

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touch any football team. We're not going to touch

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any NFL teams. We're not going to touch any baseball

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teams, just longevity and years. Basketball and

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hockey are a little more niche, could possibly,

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but basketball has become so global in a lot

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of ways. It's a really interesting – well, yeah,

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but soccer is also – there are an infinite number

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of teams almost. The number of professional leagues

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around the world in soccer just blows away all

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the other sports. And so it is a great question.

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it'd be fun to do some comparisons between, oh,

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Canadian football teams, NHL teams, and just

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see how many followers each team has. And I think

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that's how I'd probably try to analyze that.

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Just rank them, essentially. But yeah, I mean,

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Sounders' breadth, if we could correlate it to

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our viewership, we're in Japan, Canada, the United

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States of America. We have... I think it's on

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Mozambique, Norway, Italy, Guatemala, Mexico,

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Portugal, Australia, Singapore. Yeah, there's

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Mozambique, Greece. I don't believe these to

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be bots, so we actually do have people that are

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at least listening in these cities because there

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is like a bot filter. Oh, and our cat listens

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to us. Oh, yeah, cats love... Argentina, Andorra,

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Germany, France, United Kingdom, Sri Lanka. Yeah,

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so... You know, there's at least one sounder

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fan in all these countries. So that gives you

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an idea of the breadth of the... So just to give

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you a little context, on Twitter, there are 563

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,000 followers. On Facebook, there's 786 ,000

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followers. Instagram, there's 383 ,000 followers.

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So, I mean, that kind of gives you a starting

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point. I would definitely suggest that your cat's

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hungry. I'm going to go ahead and let my cat

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out. Your cat's hungry. So yeah, while you're

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letting, who let the cats out? Who, who, who,

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who? I would probably say that one, I'd question

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like what's the, how relevant that number might

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be. I like the team, you like the team, we all

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like the team, great. But it is a fun question

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to ask, you know? And so in the end, how much

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does it matter how many fans there are? I'm not

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entirely sure, but I think it'd be more easier

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to compare against other teams versus just to

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come up with a number for us. That's my thought.

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Patrick GC says, did Rosario, the little one,

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First team contract win. They can keep him loaned

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down, but I feel he should get locked in. Do

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they have roster space for him and the under

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-22? I don't know what De Rosario is doing right

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now, to be honest. I don't know. Is he doing

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good? Do you know? Yeah, I mean, Tacoma's pretty

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offensive. Good enough to have this question?

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Yeah. I'm not entirely... I trust the process

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and I trust the team on this, but the jump between

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MLS next pro, to MLS is quite significant. Let's

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put it this way. I would 100 % take Danny Mussofsky

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even when he was struggling. I would take Jesus

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Ferreira 100 % over De Rosario as a forward.

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We do this as Sounders fans quite a bit where

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we... We see success in some of lower division

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levels, and we want that to happen for us on

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the larger part. And more often than not, it

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doesn't. Think Olex Anderson. Think Andy Craven

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back in the day. However, I'm not going to say

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that it's without success because, honestly,

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I kind of put Paul Rothrock in that. same boat

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when he was scoring in his first three appearances

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as a sounder you know it was like a i didn't

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believe that he had what it takes to be a first

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teamer that it was more of a you know more of

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a oh that's just a really good run that's good

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for him but he's not gonna make it into this

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level so i could be wrong but i in the end i

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trust the club to make that decision because

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my talent evaluation skills are nowhere near

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theirs Yeah, and I honestly couldn't give you

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just an answer other than I'm not ready to see

00:17:17.859 --> 00:17:23.180
any more tinkering as we get players back. I

00:17:23.180 --> 00:17:25.240
want to get them in the rotation. Jordan's on

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the bench. We have a brand new signing also on

00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.900
the on offensive player. I will I'll ask it right

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now because we're talking about forwards and

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I think it's getting a little. ironically log

00:17:39.329 --> 00:17:42.769
jammed because of production from Moose right

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I don't think adding a De Rosario to the depth

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I don't think it would be good for him I don't

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think he's going to get playing time but what

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do I know yeah I mean in the end the in the end

00:18:03.490 --> 00:18:06.720
the club's going to do the right thing They get

00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.599
it right more than they get it wrong. I also

00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:11.880
don't believe they're going to want to give De

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Rosario a contract because they're probably looking

00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:19.140
for an under -22 signing in that forward position.

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That's probably where they're going to look to

00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:28.940
sign a U -22. So if you do that, you're not really

00:18:28.940 --> 00:18:34.240
giving him an opportunity to play into the first

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team. I also don't know how long his contract

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is. Next Pro contracts don't get released publicly

00:18:41.220 --> 00:18:47.180
in the same way that MLS ones do. So outside

00:18:47.180 --> 00:18:53.740
of a random news dump, I'm just not going to

00:18:53.740 --> 00:18:58.160
know how long he's under contract. Do you know

00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:05.119
anyone that is... understands the MLS roster

00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:08.319
construction I guess more specifically the Sounders

00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:14.299
that could explain it to like a layman that like

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knows it better than like maybe you and Cameron

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like truly because I've always been like I think

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it's one it's because the league has evolved

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so much and in the last probably five six years

00:19:25.380 --> 00:19:28.650
I've stopped really digging too deep into the

00:19:28.650 --> 00:19:31.309
mechanics of our league not that i was digging

00:19:31.309 --> 00:19:33.309
deep before but i think that would be maybe a

00:19:33.309 --> 00:19:36.170
good kind of like can we have a teaching segment

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in a like a patreon episode or something like

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that it's like here's how our roster is constructed

00:19:41.450 --> 00:19:44.130
and why and here's what we cannot do and what

00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:46.430
we can do even if we had this kind of money we

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you know i'm just there are definitely some people

00:19:50.430 --> 00:19:54.829
that i would think about um whether or not they

00:19:54.829 --> 00:19:58.500
would be available for an interview a couple

00:19:58.500 --> 00:20:00.019
of the people that i'm thinking about are no

00:20:00.019 --> 00:20:05.259
longer with the sounders um but that's oh i just

00:20:05.259 --> 00:20:09.880
meant anybody yeah um well most of the information

00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:12.579
is actually out there the mls roster rules are

00:20:12.579 --> 00:20:15.319
there i don't want to do that no i i get that

00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.740
chat gpt it or get a human being no no i get

00:20:18.740 --> 00:20:21.269
it i get it i don't do any work Well, that's

00:20:21.269 --> 00:20:23.950
the thing. You've seen me with the FIFA Club

00:20:23.950 --> 00:20:26.470
World Cup stuff and the Champions League and

00:20:26.470 --> 00:20:29.210
the World Cup. I read those regulations because

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I'm very interested and I geek out over that

00:20:31.130 --> 00:20:33.170
stuff. I've done the same thing with the roster

00:20:33.170 --> 00:20:36.589
rules as well, but I'm not going to say I'm an

00:20:36.589 --> 00:20:40.430
expert at it. But I do have a pretty good understanding

00:20:40.430 --> 00:20:43.990
of it. But there are definitely some people whose

00:20:43.990 --> 00:20:47.690
opinions I trust quite a bit when it comes to

00:20:47.690 --> 00:20:52.680
some of that. Some of those mechanisms, especially

00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:54.559
when you're talking about those supplemental

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spots and the way those hit the cap differently

00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:06.140
and such. And that's something that you love

00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:10.619
and hate about the MLS for sure. Hey, you know,

00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.599
I do have a little bit of a scuttlebutt that

00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.380
I wanted to kind of quickly toss out there. Tomorrow

00:21:15.380 --> 00:21:20.410
morning. Ballard FC will be officially launching

00:21:20.410 --> 00:21:27.029
their annual artist jersey. Every year they do

00:21:27.029 --> 00:21:29.430
a community kit. They do a third jersey with

00:21:29.430 --> 00:21:34.109
a local artist. One year it was Henry, but they

00:21:34.109 --> 00:21:38.869
do a local jersey. Stevie Chow was last year's

00:21:38.869 --> 00:21:44.279
kit. And they've all been really good. But they've

00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.779
teased a little bit of it this morning. And what

00:21:47.779 --> 00:21:51.539
they teased was really interesting because what

00:21:51.539 --> 00:21:55.319
they teased is the badge being a lenticular badge.

00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:59.519
So that depending on how you view the badge,

00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:04.910
it will change and that it's going to be. one

00:22:04.910 --> 00:22:08.109
part of the badge will say Ballard FC. The other

00:22:08.109 --> 00:22:13.069
part of the badge will be the, will be the Salmon

00:22:13.069 --> 00:22:16.690
Bay FC, which is the ladies team. And it's the

00:22:16.690 --> 00:22:19.529
Sarah Robbins kit. Looks like there's going to

00:22:19.529 --> 00:22:25.089
be some sort of palm trees or some sort of, yeah,

00:22:25.250 --> 00:22:27.009
I'm not entirely sure, but I'm, I'm, I'm very

00:22:27.009 --> 00:22:31.690
curious to see how that's weird. Well, I'm only

00:22:31.690 --> 00:22:35.630
seeing, you're only seeing like, Three square

00:22:35.630 --> 00:22:39.950
inches of the jersey. Reserve judgment. Yeah,

00:22:40.029 --> 00:22:44.049
so it looks kind of tropical, I guess I would

00:22:44.049 --> 00:22:47.430
say. But I'm very excited to see because, honestly,

00:22:47.589 --> 00:22:53.150
the Ballard FC jerseys have been fire. They really

00:22:53.150 --> 00:22:54.950
have. Give me the link. I'll put it in the show

00:22:54.950 --> 00:22:58.930
notes. Well, by the time we post this, we'll

00:22:58.930 --> 00:23:01.789
actually have the actual jersey launch. Oh, really?

00:23:01.789 --> 00:23:03.329
When does it come out? It should be tomorrow.

00:23:03.509 --> 00:23:10.069
It's tomorrow? Never mind. But still. Go check

00:23:10.069 --> 00:23:11.190
it out, everyone. Just so you can take a look

00:23:11.190 --> 00:23:13.410
at it. But yeah, it's good stuff. Ballard, actually,

00:23:13.490 --> 00:23:16.670
they're using a Canadian manufacturer called

00:23:16.670 --> 00:23:22.990
Anaria. And they've just been coming up with

00:23:22.990 --> 00:23:25.369
some really good designs in their jerseys. Really

00:23:25.369 --> 00:23:29.309
like the work they've done. So hats off to Ballard

00:23:29.309 --> 00:23:36.460
for that. uh we got some more scuttlebutt stuff

00:23:36.460 --> 00:23:39.279
going on the henry one that was pretty good yeah

00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:43.039
alex diaz uh looks like he actually forwarded

00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.079
something from these the match day channel um

00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:50.140
what's worse the peach ant we're throwing beer

00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:56.579
on everyone um i mean i'm gonna go with one's

00:23:56.579 --> 00:23:59.279
just blatantly offensive the other one is disrespectful

00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.160
but it's not it's But sometimes, like, when are

00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:04.880
you throwing the beer? Is it after a major goal?

00:24:05.019 --> 00:24:08.619
Is it like in LAFC is the one that throws a beer

00:24:08.619 --> 00:24:11.859
after every goal, which I know you also need

00:24:11.859 --> 00:24:13.700
to know where you're sitting. But I don't know.

00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:19.680
Yeah, I would be less pissed off if I guess if

00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.900
I brought Gracie, I would not want to explain

00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:26.460
the first one. I would I would just say someone

00:24:26.460 --> 00:24:29.440
had an accident and move seats and be angry about

00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:35.900
it. But. I've definitely been soaked by beer

00:24:35.900 --> 00:24:42.079
and liked it. Both of them are not great. If

00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:44.740
I'm going to be soaked in beer, we better have

00:24:44.740 --> 00:24:47.420
just won a championship, not scored a goal on

00:24:47.420 --> 00:24:54.400
a Saturday afternoon to make it 2 -1. The only

00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:58.079
time I've gotten soaked with beer was Game 7,

00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.779
Detroit Red Rings versus Colorado Avalanche.

00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:04.960
I'm wearing my Dominik Hasek Czech Republic jersey.

00:25:05.339 --> 00:25:10.740
We're in a Detroit sports bar in Denver. And

00:25:10.740 --> 00:25:16.480
Denver, right across the street from the Detroit

00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:20.980
sports bar, is the main Avalanche bar. And it's

00:25:20.980 --> 00:25:25.660
just this really fun, you know, rivalry for sure.

00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.039
And that game was a winner goes on to the Stanley

00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.140
Cup finals. Game seven, Hasek versus Patrick

00:25:33.140 --> 00:25:36.680
Waugh. And after the first period, Detroit was

00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.000
up five or six nothing. It just one of those

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.240
things. It was almost like the Women's World

00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:44.759
Cup game where 15 minutes into the game, the

00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.440
game was over and there was no. There was no

00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:56.019
drama. But in the midst of all these goals, just.

00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:58.559
beer just kept getting just tossed everywhere

00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:00.960
and I still have some beer stains on my jersey

00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:05.660
it really pissed me off for a long time right

00:26:05.660 --> 00:26:08.039
away but now when I look at those stains I kind

00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.660
of think of that night and I'm like okay that

00:26:09.660 --> 00:26:13.160
was kind of special but if that happened on just

00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:17.059
basically any other game other than that fuck

00:26:17.059 --> 00:26:23.579
those people so with that in mind I would prefer

00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:29.150
To see the beer throwing because, and this is

00:26:29.150 --> 00:26:33.769
my logical brain, it's a lot easier to kick out

00:26:33.769 --> 00:26:36.690
the person throwing the beer than to try and

00:26:36.690 --> 00:26:39.950
identify who was the one that said the P chant

00:26:39.950 --> 00:26:43.210
and get them out of there. Both behaviors absolutely

00:26:43.210 --> 00:26:45.950
should lead to ejection from the stadium. I want

00:26:45.950 --> 00:26:48.150
neither of them anywhere in my soccer stadium,

00:26:48.349 --> 00:26:52.289
but the beer throwing is a lot easier to identify.

00:26:52.789 --> 00:26:56.910
So that's where. I'd rather have that just because

00:26:56.910 --> 00:27:03.549
I can get them removed. Fair enough. I think

00:27:03.549 --> 00:27:05.210
the only time I've been soaked by beer was at

00:27:05.210 --> 00:27:10.769
a concert and that was in the pit. Totally reasonable.

00:27:11.950 --> 00:27:14.930
I'm thinking it was Fall of Troy, which is not

00:27:14.930 --> 00:27:18.329
my particular type of music, but I usually...

00:27:18.970 --> 00:27:22.289
chameleon myself at a live show and i was in

00:27:22.289 --> 00:27:25.190
the pit and it's like a screamo band and people

00:27:25.190 --> 00:27:27.390
were going nuts and it was kind of fun i just

00:27:27.390 --> 00:27:28.910
kind of went with it it was already i was pretty

00:27:28.910 --> 00:27:31.549
drunk too but but i think you saw i think it'd

00:27:31.549 --> 00:27:34.349
be 21 you touched on the part of that that is

00:27:34.349 --> 00:27:37.549
really important is is when you know in advance

00:27:37.549 --> 00:27:39.569
that that's the kind of atmosphere you're going

00:27:39.569 --> 00:27:42.890
into prepare accordingly yeah you know if i know

00:27:42.890 --> 00:27:46.250
i'm going to an insane clown posse show or a

00:27:46.250 --> 00:27:54.200
um Or who are the ones that dress up in the big

00:27:54.200 --> 00:28:00.599
penis costumes? Gwar. Gwar, thank you. If I know

00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.019
I'm going to one of those shows, I know I'm wearing

00:28:03.019 --> 00:28:07.000
stuff that's going to get destroyed. I'm dressing

00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:13.859
appropriately. You don't go to a Sarah McLachlan

00:28:13.859 --> 00:28:16.500
show and expect to get a beer dumped on you.

00:28:18.990 --> 00:28:24.130
We're a voodoo chant. And then just like throwing

00:28:24.130 --> 00:28:28.730
beer, you know, yeah. Just things you don't expect.

00:28:31.430 --> 00:28:35.230
It's funny. I crack myself up sometimes, I guess.

00:28:35.730 --> 00:28:40.890
But that is a great question. Both of them absolutely

00:28:40.890 --> 00:28:47.089
suck. Both suck. All right. What do you say?

00:28:48.420 --> 00:28:51.000
We get to the second half of the show. Yeah,

00:28:51.059 --> 00:28:52.980
let's do that. We got a lot to talk about. Cameron

00:28:52.980 --> 00:28:55.839
hasn't been. Yeah, and Cameron hasn't been on

00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:58.140
the show, so he needs his part, which is his

00:28:58.140 --> 00:29:15.309
little promo. Here you go, Cameron. Hey, everybody.

00:29:15.410 --> 00:29:17.829
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00:29:17.950 --> 00:29:20.329
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00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:23.430
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00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.700
All right, let's see if we can get to the through

00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:56.900
review of this match without my cat joining in.

00:30:58.099 --> 00:31:00.819
His name is Captain James Hook, by the way. Love

00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:05.680
it. All right, so we play Colorado. In Colorado.

00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.700
So, 5 ,000 feet up, what have you. 1 -0. Sorry,

00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:18.339
not 1 -0. 1 -1. Road draw. Goal scored. Didn't

00:31:18.339 --> 00:31:22.309
have our best players starting. and there's been

00:31:22.309 --> 00:31:25.230
some negativity, including Cameron said he's

00:31:25.230 --> 00:31:27.789
not able to make it tonight to us, but he did

00:31:27.789 --> 00:31:30.569
say he has nothing good to say anyway. Yeah,

00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:32.529
I don't get it. Nothing positive to take away.

00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:37.710
Let's start with the lineup. First off, it looks

00:31:37.710 --> 00:31:41.170
like Brian Schmetzer wanted to continue to reward

00:31:41.170 --> 00:31:43.690
the players who had been performing in the last

00:31:43.690 --> 00:31:49.440
two games, the Nashville 3 -0 win. the 1 -0 Dallas

00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.259
game on the road because we saw Danny Mussofsky

00:31:52.259 --> 00:32:00.079
start. You know, we saw Kim Keehy again. We saw

00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:06.759
Paul Rothrock. No Albert Rusnak. No Jordan Morris.

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.019
We didn't see any of that. I kind of felt I could

00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:16.680
take it or leave it. You know, I get it. I get

00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:22.789
it. Long season. What were your thoughts on the

00:32:22.789 --> 00:32:31.789
lineup? Like, the lineup? I didn't really think

00:32:31.789 --> 00:32:34.630
too much of it. I was pretty much the same as

00:32:34.630 --> 00:32:36.829
you. It's like, okay, this has been productive.

00:32:37.009 --> 00:32:40.490
We just came off 3 -0. Pretty good match. And

00:32:40.490 --> 00:32:43.089
I actually predicted we'd have multi -score,

00:32:43.109 --> 00:32:44.789
probably another shutout, just because we just

00:32:44.789 --> 00:32:48.539
witnessed that against Nashville, who... destroyed

00:32:48.539 --> 00:32:51.319
who did they just who did they just play nashville

00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.380
oh this week they they put a seventh spot up

00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:59.299
on uh was it st not st louis chicago thank you

00:32:59.299 --> 00:33:01.180
seven two is what i ended up but it was seven

00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:04.400
nothing with no red cards so i mean chicago is

00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.279
terrible but um still they are humans and they're

00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.460
in your way and keep in mind five first half

00:33:12.460 --> 00:33:16.079
goals yeah that's ridiculous so we just scored

00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.079
three first half goals against them and then

00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:22.920
yeah we're on the road it's we've i think we

00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.920
have a winning record against colorado but that's

00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:26.559
including at home i feel like i think if you

00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.400
mentioned this before in colorado we and like

00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:33.980
the high altitude you know locations we struggle

00:33:33.980 --> 00:33:37.819
obviously Yeah, it hasn't been as bad as Real

00:33:37.819 --> 00:33:39.960
Salt Lake, but you're not wrong. Yeah, that's

00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.900
the worst. We've done okay in Colorado, but I

00:33:45.900 --> 00:33:48.339
also feel like we're constantly not getting our

00:33:48.339 --> 00:33:51.799
first choice lineups in Colorado. I feel like

00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:56.539
that happens a lot. So, yeah, I was happy with

00:33:56.539 --> 00:33:58.640
the lineup. I wasn't considering what we just

00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.400
witnessed the week before. And I was expecting

00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.640
to see Ryan Kent a little earlier. He didn't.

00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:08.179
He didn't even come on at all. Wait, against?

00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.480
Did I miss that? Yeah, you did. He came on in

00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.619
the 75th inning. Oh, that's right. So he still

00:34:14.619 --> 00:34:19.780
got 15. 71st. I was expecting more like 20 or

00:34:19.780 --> 00:34:22.480
30, but I'm happy with it. Now I do recall. He

00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:26.320
got his 20, yeah. I think I was upset because

00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:29.300
he wasn't in yet, but it's also I'm getting nitpicky.

00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:33.309
Kosa Rienzi had a great game. literally had an

00:34:33.309 --> 00:34:36.309
assist, and he's been really showing up. I'm

00:34:36.309 --> 00:34:42.090
taking his opportunity. Yeah, I can see that.

00:34:42.590 --> 00:34:46.670
Road draw? I'm happy with the road draw. Yeah,

00:34:46.989 --> 00:34:52.590
I'm happy with the road draw. I think where I'm

00:34:52.590 --> 00:34:57.349
going to suspect that where people are frustrated

00:34:57.349 --> 00:35:02.800
is that This game was largely dominated by Colorado.

00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:10.659
It just felt like they were the ones dictating

00:35:10.659 --> 00:35:14.139
how the game was being played. They weren't dominating

00:35:14.139 --> 00:35:20.000
in shots or even expected goals. They did get

00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:29.139
more shots, but only four on target. Those game

00:35:29.139 --> 00:35:32.280
state graphs, I'm not sure exactly how they measure

00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.699
that. The five -minute intervals? Yeah, the momentum

00:35:34.699 --> 00:35:38.400
meters. I think it's just possession. I feel

00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.280
like it's got to be a little more than that,

00:35:40.340 --> 00:35:42.280
but I really don't know. I don't think it is.

00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.199
I think it's possession. Literally, actually,

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.300
the stat on here right now, I'm on the website

00:35:47.300 --> 00:35:49.860
for the stats. It says possession. It has the

00:35:49.860 --> 00:35:52.800
five -minute intervals. Okay, interesting, because

00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:59.760
what I'm showing you is very... Very red. Very

00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:05.219
red. But I thought defensively, I thought we

00:36:05.219 --> 00:36:08.659
played a really good game. I had spoken earlier

00:36:08.659 --> 00:36:11.179
that Georgie Mihaljevic, you don't want to give

00:36:11.179 --> 00:36:14.699
him a free kick. And I think that's where some

00:36:14.699 --> 00:36:18.579
people, there was some consternation on our Discord

00:36:18.579 --> 00:36:24.780
during our match day thread with Georgie Mihaljevic.

00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.840
taking that free kick and the wall jumping, but

00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:31.739
that's what the wall is supposed to do. I know.

00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:33.420
Sometimes you get caught with your pants down

00:36:33.420 --> 00:36:37.019
on that. It's a risky shot to take, but I wasn't

00:36:37.019 --> 00:36:40.039
upset with it. And Georgie has scored multiple

00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.539
free kicks from within five yards of that spot.

00:36:46.860 --> 00:36:50.820
And so I'm not shocked that that happened. As

00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:53.210
a matter of fact... leading up to it when the

00:36:53.210 --> 00:36:57.409
foul was called i'm like oh fuck here we go did

00:36:57.409 --> 00:37:03.849
not feel good about that um i mean i i was more

00:37:03.849 --> 00:37:07.570
upset really with how the match started and then

00:37:07.570 --> 00:37:11.389
then it evened out for me and i was like okay

00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:13.849
we took we could when we had our backs against

00:37:13.849 --> 00:37:16.230
the ropes for the first 20 minutes 25 minutes

00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:18.969
could have been three or four nothing legitimately

00:37:18.969 --> 00:37:22.239
i think you know without roland saving that off

00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.099
the line, doing what he was supposed to do on

00:37:24.099 --> 00:37:28.260
a corner kick without the one minute later, another

00:37:28.260 --> 00:37:30.599
corner kick from the same corner. They had it

00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.219
just over the bar. That was like, get your shit

00:37:34.219 --> 00:37:38.519
together, guys. And literally, thanks to Roldan,

00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:43.420
it wasn't 2 -0. Real 1 -0, thanks to Roldan.

00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:48.130
And then that Bassett... yeah off the post i

00:37:48.130 --> 00:37:50.389
mean kim keehee showed that he still got enough

00:37:50.389 --> 00:37:53.210
gas to affect that shot but he still should have

00:37:53.210 --> 00:37:56.090
scored oh reagan probably catches up and shoulders

00:37:56.090 --> 00:38:00.909
him off but still i loved come on i i loved the

00:38:00.909 --> 00:38:04.829
effort from kim keehee to to basically not give

00:38:04.829 --> 00:38:07.489
him the ability to cut towards the center of

00:38:07.489 --> 00:38:10.210
the net minimizing that opportunity. He literally

00:38:10.210 --> 00:38:14.070
didn't touch the ball or touch him in any way,

00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:16.429
but the way he got back prevented him from being

00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:20.289
able to do that, so great play. A little disappointed

00:38:20.289 --> 00:38:23.750
in Yamar this game. Yamar did not have his best

00:38:23.750 --> 00:38:28.190
game. I will say that was a bit of a criticism

00:38:28.190 --> 00:38:31.969
for me. I will also say that I think the other

00:38:31.969 --> 00:38:35.030
part that gets people a little upset is that

00:38:35.030 --> 00:38:39.349
90th minute. where we have that breakout and

00:38:39.349 --> 00:38:42.690
Jordan starts sprinting down the line and pulls

00:38:42.690 --> 00:38:47.829
up with an injury. And that was really worrying.

00:38:47.969 --> 00:38:51.030
And the latest news on that is that he has undergone

00:38:51.030 --> 00:38:55.469
a second MRI. That was this morning. The first

00:38:55.469 --> 00:39:02.409
MRI was unclear. So they should know tomorrow

00:39:02.409 --> 00:39:04.989
what's going to happen. So he's almost certainly

00:39:04.989 --> 00:39:07.969
going to be out for, the next game. I would expect

00:39:07.969 --> 00:39:10.349
him to be out for the next game. Hopefully it's

00:39:10.349 --> 00:39:16.829
just not bad. We'll see what happens there. He

00:39:16.829 --> 00:39:19.630
finished the match though, right? No, no. He

00:39:19.630 --> 00:39:24.570
did get subbed off at the very, very end. I must

00:39:24.570 --> 00:39:27.429
have missed that. I know I actually watched the

00:39:27.429 --> 00:39:29.730
match that night, which is rare for me, but I

00:39:29.730 --> 00:39:32.530
know the last 15 minutes was kind of funky. Literally

00:39:32.530 --> 00:39:41.579
90th minute. Okay. Wonderful. But that kind of

00:39:41.579 --> 00:39:43.679
leads to a point that I jotted down on my notes

00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:47.320
here is that Moose, and I mentioned earlier,

00:39:47.500 --> 00:39:51.719
Moose's production. I mean, if this is a time

00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.639
we really need to kind of sit Morris down for

00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.059
longer, clearly he's going to be out. But to

00:39:57.059 --> 00:39:58.820
really take our time, make sure it's right for

00:39:58.820 --> 00:40:01.599
maybe the playoff push because he's... Seems

00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.460
a little tender. Moose, is this production real?

00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.500
Yes and no. Yes and no. I mean, you know what?

00:40:09.539 --> 00:40:12.659
I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes. The

00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:14.900
goals haven't been sexy. They've been opportunistic.

00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.659
The Nashville goal was sexy where he makes that

00:40:19.659 --> 00:40:23.079
deflection, that kind of jump kick with his heel.

00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:28.659
That was sexy. Yeah, that was nice. This is going

00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:31.380
back to last season. How many times I feel like

00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:33.800
a broken record where I'd say what I love about

00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:35.900
Moose is he keeps putting himself in dangerous

00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:38.400
positions. He's putting himself in opportunities

00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:43.599
to make those tap -in goals, to make those dirty

00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:47.679
Dave Anderchuk, if we're going old school 80s

00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:51.199
hockey, Dino Cicerelli type of, you know, get

00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.460
in the crease and just bang it home from two

00:40:54.460 --> 00:40:57.599
feet out. And he's doing that, and I was really

00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.380
loving his efforts on that. And so now this is

00:41:00.380 --> 00:41:02.880
just kind of everything coming good. You keep

00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:04.699
putting yourself in those positions, your opportunities

00:41:04.699 --> 00:41:08.519
will come. And he was snake bit a little bit

00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.320
in the past, and right now he's got a good run

00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.420
where he keeps doing the same thing he's been

00:41:13.420 --> 00:41:17.599
doing. I'm not sure he's changing much, but now

00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.539
those balls are falling to him. So great. I'm

00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:25.159
thrilled, and this is kind of what I... could

00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:30.739
be what we expect to see from him. He is our

00:41:30.739 --> 00:41:37.599
leading goal scorer with three. He's got no assists.

00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.599
Expected goals is four and a half. And I do remember

00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:47.599
he started the season missing some sitters. But

00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.039
yeah, he and Jordan Morris each have three with

00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:54.980
50 more minutes and five more games. There was

00:41:54.980 --> 00:42:00.059
a really interesting stat. Misofsky. No, don't

00:42:00.059 --> 00:42:05.400
do that. Don't do what? Did you call him Misofsky?

00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:11.539
Misofsky. I've had a whole nine noon. Give me

00:42:11.539 --> 00:42:14.800
a break. No, no, no. I thought you were criticizing

00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.619
when he would miss those sitters calling him

00:42:17.619 --> 00:42:21.199
Misofsky. Oh, I should have. That would have

00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.960
been great. Damn it. Yes, I did say that. But

00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.380
someone came up with the stat. I'm not sure where

00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:32.920
I heard this. It might have been one of our fellow

00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:39.719
podcasts. But it was somewhere when Jordan or

00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:44.139
Danny Mussofsky are on the field, we are outscoring

00:42:44.139 --> 00:42:48.179
teams by a ridiculous margin. Our XGs are much

00:42:48.179 --> 00:42:52.170
better. When neither of those two forwards are

00:42:52.170 --> 00:42:55.409
on the field, we're getting outscored 5 -0. And

00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:58.610
it's not looking pretty. So I think that kind

00:42:58.610 --> 00:43:01.570
of talks about the idea is that that could be

00:43:01.570 --> 00:43:06.110
a sign that having a true forward in this system,

00:43:06.170 --> 00:43:08.750
because we've largely played mostly the same

00:43:08.750 --> 00:43:11.349
formations for the most part throughout the season,

00:43:11.530 --> 00:43:16.699
could be a good thing. And we're pretty stable

00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:20.119
and consistent around midfield and back. Yeah.

00:43:20.260 --> 00:43:23.579
And so now what happens next week? Let's assume

00:43:23.579 --> 00:43:25.579
Jordan's out. It's almost certain that he's out.

00:43:26.340 --> 00:43:28.920
Yeah. You know, what's going to happen? Do you

00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:33.400
put Mussofsky up there? Three goals in three

00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.599
games? I think you kind of do. I don't think

00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.960
you screw around with testing out new formations.

00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.340
But the question is, what do you do about Albert

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:47.139
Rusnak, got 40 minutes in this game. What do

00:43:47.139 --> 00:43:50.059
you do about Ryan Kent who got 21 minutes or

00:43:50.059 --> 00:43:53.860
19 minutes in this game plus stoppage time? So

00:43:53.860 --> 00:43:56.420
some attacking options who might be able to eat

00:43:56.420 --> 00:44:03.380
some minutes. Could Ryan Kent come in as a forward?

00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:09.150
I have no idea. I don't think so. We do have

00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:11.289
some attacking options, and just figuring out

00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:14.309
how to put them in a formation against a stubborn

00:44:14.309 --> 00:44:18.570
St. Louis team who we've already seen this year.

00:44:18.610 --> 00:44:20.389
We've already talked about how stubborn they

00:44:20.389 --> 00:44:28.230
are. It'll be interesting to see. Do you want

00:44:28.230 --> 00:44:29.809
to do the preview now, or do you have anything

00:44:29.809 --> 00:44:31.929
else to add about that Colorado match? I thought

00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:34.710
it was well -officiated. I think we'll give a

00:44:34.710 --> 00:44:36.489
little shout -out. Yeah, I think we'll give a

00:44:36.489 --> 00:44:38.710
shout -out to Josh Atencio starting against us.

00:44:39.469 --> 00:44:45.989
Yeah. Yeah, and at one moment there was a little

00:44:45.989 --> 00:44:49.010
bit of physicality between him and Rothrock,

00:44:49.070 --> 00:44:50.750
and they were both kind of laughing at each other

00:44:50.750 --> 00:44:55.800
about it. But I kind of like seeing that. And

00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:58.719
I like seeing that he's getting minutes because

00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.079
I always liked him, but our young midfield was

00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.679
just too stacked for his time with us. And I'm

00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:11.599
happy with Obed. I think the announcer said it.

00:45:11.619 --> 00:45:14.539
I think we said it when the original trade got

00:45:14.539 --> 00:45:17.500
mentioned. It's kind of one of those win -win

00:45:17.500 --> 00:45:23.019
-win situations. Atencio gets to play. We got...

00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.260
good value out of it in over a million in gam

00:45:26.260 --> 00:45:30.539
uh and then colorado gets a player they need

00:45:30.539 --> 00:45:34.519
in a position of need i mean he's been he's been

00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.820
playing in almost all of their games he's been

00:45:36.820 --> 00:45:40.119
in nine matches this year and he's been really

00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.880
solid for that team so um good for him just really

00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:52.800
really happy for him yeah um and Let's see. I

00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:56.119
think that's... Yeah, we don't have to talk about

00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.119
that. I'm looking at my notes here. Yeah, let's

00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.219
get to a little preview. Who do we got coming

00:46:01.219 --> 00:46:06.500
up next? St. Louis City. We get to play St. Louis

00:46:06.500 --> 00:46:11.940
at home. St. Louis, who we lost to 1 -0 earlier

00:46:11.940 --> 00:46:14.579
this year, as you may remember. There was that

00:46:14.579 --> 00:46:20.239
early goal from them. And then just basically...

00:46:20.969 --> 00:46:24.429
We kept putting the pressure on, but they just

00:46:24.429 --> 00:46:28.130
bunkered down, and we just couldn't get anything

00:46:28.130 --> 00:46:37.829
out of that. It was also a game where we didn't

00:46:37.829 --> 00:46:42.469
have Jordan. We didn't have Pedro de la Vega.

00:46:43.329 --> 00:46:46.570
We tried to start Jesus Ferreira up top, and

00:46:46.570 --> 00:46:48.610
that didn't quite work. That was one of those

00:46:48.610 --> 00:46:53.309
aforementioned games where, Mussofsky was not

00:46:53.309 --> 00:46:57.869
on the field until the 64th minute. So in the

00:46:57.869 --> 00:47:02.409
end, I'm excited to see the tables turn. I'm

00:47:02.409 --> 00:47:06.130
very excited that one of St. Louis City's big

00:47:06.130 --> 00:47:09.769
players in their defensive midfield, Alfredo

00:47:09.769 --> 00:47:13.110
Morales, got a red card, so he will not be available.

00:47:13.210 --> 00:47:19.769
That's a damn shame. So they'll be down a key.

00:47:20.510 --> 00:47:29.349
a key player in that match. Tough doggies. That's

00:47:29.349 --> 00:47:34.150
a damn show. I want to win. I like winning. I

00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:40.010
don't want to win. Here's to that. Where are

00:47:40.010 --> 00:47:42.230
they in the standings? They're 12th in the Western

00:47:42.230 --> 00:47:46.110
Conference with 10 points, two wins, four losses.

00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.079
four draws, seven goals, four and eight against

00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.480
negative one goal differential, if you can do

00:47:52.480 --> 00:48:01.000
math. Yeah, this should be... We're at home.

00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.880
Yeah, this should be a win. We've got enough

00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:11.500
attacking options that we should be able to find

00:48:11.500 --> 00:48:15.159
goals at home. I think you're absolutely right.

00:48:16.910 --> 00:48:19.650
And only eight goals against, though. That's

00:48:19.650 --> 00:48:25.150
pretty. No, but Berkey still got a broken hand.

00:48:26.730 --> 00:48:30.929
They have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

00:48:30.929 --> 00:48:34.909
players on their injury report, along with the

00:48:34.909 --> 00:48:39.110
suspended player. So they are a little battered.

00:48:39.329 --> 00:48:45.429
Hopefully we can take advantage of that. been

00:48:45.429 --> 00:48:49.510
struggling as of late since we played them. They've

00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:53.389
lost three, tied two. Three straight losses followed

00:48:53.389 --> 00:48:57.150
by their most two recent games as ties. But the

00:48:57.150 --> 00:49:00.150
two ties were against Vancouver 0 -0 and LAFC

00:49:00.150 --> 00:49:03.929
2 -2. Yeah, because they're not scoring either.

00:49:05.510 --> 00:49:10.369
Yeah. So we'll see what happens there. I do expect

00:49:10.369 --> 00:49:15.710
us to come out guns blazing. I'd like to see

00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:19.090
us... I'd be curious to see if Ryan Kent gets

00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:23.469
a start over Paul Rothrock. I don't know if he

00:49:23.469 --> 00:49:26.090
starts. I think it all depends, honestly. It

00:49:26.090 --> 00:49:30.909
depends on what... This is where our depth comes

00:49:30.909 --> 00:49:33.469
into play. This is the situation where Brian

00:49:33.469 --> 00:49:35.349
gets to take a look at our players and go, okay,

00:49:35.369 --> 00:49:39.650
what players can I utilize specifically to attack

00:49:39.650 --> 00:49:44.440
St. Louis' style? And that's a great position

00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.159
we have where in previous years it's like, well,

00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.039
here are our 11 starters. This is pretty much

00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.179
we can predict who our starters are going to

00:49:52.179 --> 00:49:55.480
be. Now I think this season there are a number

00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:57.880
of positions where I have no idea who's going

00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.239
to start. And I kind of like that. And it's not

00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.900
because of being ineffectual. It's because we

00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:09.119
actually have talent options. So really excited

00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:16.659
about that. What was, oh, one other thing about

00:50:16.659 --> 00:50:22.559
this week we haven't talked about. Do you plan

00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:28.139
on watching tomorrow the Inter -Miami Vancouver

00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:35.019
CONCACAF Champions Cup semifinal? I hadn't thought

00:50:35.019 --> 00:50:37.239
about it. I think I will probably turn it on,

00:50:37.260 --> 00:50:41.730
though. Because at this point... Not live, but

00:50:41.730 --> 00:50:45.769
like my usual 10 p .m. throw something non -falsive

00:50:45.769 --> 00:50:48.909
on the couch thing, yeah. Because Vancouver got

00:50:48.909 --> 00:50:52.789
the home result. They won 2 -0, and they looked

00:50:52.789 --> 00:50:57.150
pretty damn good doing it. So they held Miami

00:50:57.150 --> 00:51:01.710
to a shutout. So Vancouver gets a road goal tomorrow,

00:51:01.889 --> 00:51:05.969
and Miami's going to need four goals to win.

00:51:09.630 --> 00:51:13.030
Is that math right? Yeah, because 3 -3. Yeah,

00:51:13.210 --> 00:51:16.449
so Vancouver scores one goal. Miami needs four.

00:51:18.610 --> 00:51:23.449
I don't trust Miami's defense to get a shutout,

00:51:23.510 --> 00:51:26.809
but I also don't know if Vancouver is going to

00:51:26.809 --> 00:51:31.909
be trying to play for a 0 -0. I don't think that's

00:51:31.909 --> 00:51:33.690
the right approach to take if I'm Vancouver.

00:51:33.969 --> 00:51:35.849
Like, if you're going to bunker, you're opening

00:51:35.849 --> 00:51:38.960
yourself up to getting destroyed. But it will

00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:42.699
be very interesting. Both teams kind of left

00:51:42.699 --> 00:51:45.679
a lot up. They played a rotated squad on Sunday.

00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.119
Vancouver getting the 3 -1 win. Miami losing

00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:56.800
to Dallas 4 -3. So we'll see. But I am excited.

00:51:56.940 --> 00:51:59.599
I think in the end what I really don't want is

00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.800
I don't really want an MLS team to win CONCACAF

00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.940
if it's not us. If it's not us, yeah. I agree.

00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.780
But if a team's going to win it, I'd be okay

00:52:09.780 --> 00:52:15.159
if it's Vancouver. I want no joy from Miami.

00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.260
I definitely want no joy from Miami on that,

00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.219
especially this year in particular. What if it

00:52:21.219 --> 00:52:28.880
was Portland? If it was Portland, Miami. If it

00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:32.500
was Portland or Miami? No, they were playing

00:52:32.500 --> 00:52:40.420
each other. I'd probably go Borland. As much

00:52:40.420 --> 00:52:52.619
as I hate it, a successful Cascadia makes all

00:52:52.619 --> 00:52:59.239
of us better. Keep in mind, from 2011 to something

00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:06.599
stupid like 2023, one of us, Seattle or Portland,

00:53:06.699 --> 00:53:09.900
was in the Western Conference final. Yeah, I

00:53:09.900 --> 00:53:14.460
know. I know. It's another logical answer. That

00:53:14.460 --> 00:53:15.820
doesn't mean it feels good, and I don't want

00:53:15.820 --> 00:53:17.619
to talk about it anymore. But crazy enough, it

00:53:17.619 --> 00:53:20.800
was never both of us. We were never in the Western

00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.119
Conference finals against each other. That is

00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:28.099
weird. It's almost like the late 80s, early 90s,

00:53:28.099 --> 00:53:31.739
where it was always either San Francisco or...

00:53:33.789 --> 00:53:36.630
Buffalo with success, but they never played each

00:53:36.630 --> 00:53:38.929
other in the super bowl, you know, but like one

00:53:38.929 --> 00:53:43.550
of those two teams from basically 88 to anyways,

00:53:43.590 --> 00:53:47.409
moving on. So how about this? How about this?

00:53:47.510 --> 00:53:50.510
Let's rapid fire. Okay. Because we don't know

00:53:50.510 --> 00:53:52.869
what the, the lineup is going to be. Let's just

00:53:52.869 --> 00:53:56.449
come up with one. Okay. You do yours. I'll do

00:53:56.449 --> 00:53:58.769
mine. And then we will just say our predictions

00:53:58.769 --> 00:54:01.989
and have James take us away. That sounds like

00:54:01.989 --> 00:54:04.650
fun. I already wrote mine out, so I'm going to

00:54:04.650 --> 00:54:09.650
do it. That sounds like a good idea. All right.

00:54:09.690 --> 00:54:15.170
Up top, Moose. Della Vega, Rosnack, Jesus, CR7,

00:54:15.530 --> 00:54:23.329
Obed. So this is a three -band behind Moose.

00:54:23.670 --> 00:54:26.369
And then you got your two defensive midfielders

00:54:26.369 --> 00:54:30.349
right there, Obed, Christian, and then... knew

00:54:30.349 --> 00:54:38.909
who bell yamar alex fry no one's injured right

00:54:38.909 --> 00:54:41.989
no one got injured in the last minute of the

00:54:41.989 --> 00:54:44.429
match that i'm unaware of that that's not named

00:54:44.429 --> 00:54:54.090
jordan morris yeah okay i mean i'm gonna go say

00:54:54.090 --> 00:54:55.389
go ahead and say my prediction while you keep

00:54:55.389 --> 00:54:59.530
thinking yeah um I'm going to say it is going

00:54:59.530 --> 00:55:03.250
to be 1 -0 us and Jesus gets his first goal.

00:55:04.590 --> 00:55:11.150
Okay. Remind me to put that on my prediction

00:55:11.150 --> 00:55:13.869
sheet you drop in the Discord. Speaking of which,

00:55:13.949 --> 00:55:18.210
big success to Dan the Bastard, who's had a nice

00:55:18.210 --> 00:55:20.969
run this year. He's won a few of these. He's

00:55:20.969 --> 00:55:25.309
owning everyone. He got all five points. He got

00:55:25.309 --> 00:55:28.590
Danny Mussofsky. One of three of us. I also chose

00:55:28.590 --> 00:55:32.650
Danny Masovsky. And I think Alex Diaz also chose

00:55:32.650 --> 00:55:35.969
Danny Masovsky. And then got the score right

00:55:35.969 --> 00:55:40.829
and everything. So good job on you. Once again,

00:55:40.909 --> 00:55:44.349
if you want to join us on that, I post it every

00:55:44.349 --> 00:55:48.170
match day. At the end of the season, we'll give

00:55:48.170 --> 00:55:51.550
a prize to whoever has the highest overall score.

00:55:51.730 --> 00:55:54.730
But then we'll also have another prize for everyone

00:55:54.730 --> 00:55:57.489
that has participated in any game. So if you

00:55:57.489 --> 00:56:00.090
participate in five games, we'll get five entries.

00:56:00.250 --> 00:56:02.530
You participate in 20 games, you'll get 20 entries.

00:56:02.750 --> 00:56:05.650
And this way, even if you're not playing every

00:56:05.650 --> 00:56:08.309
single week, you still have opportunities to

00:56:08.309 --> 00:56:11.460
win something cool. And right now, I'll be honest,

00:56:11.619 --> 00:56:15.380
I have a few different ideas. I've got some stuff

00:56:15.380 --> 00:56:18.699
that I think you might appreciate, but we'll

00:56:18.699 --> 00:56:20.480
come up with some good stuff. You kind of have

00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.679
to do this because you need to get rid of some

00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:26.480
of this shit. Both you and Cameron are hoarders

00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:30.159
of Sounders memorabilia. You say it like a bad

00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.150
thing. Or just used clothing. No, it's not. It's

00:56:33.150 --> 00:56:37.150
just the opposite of me, and I respect it. It's

00:56:37.150 --> 00:56:42.949
between money, time, and I don't know. I don't

00:56:42.949 --> 00:56:45.329
know. I do want more stuff, but it doesn't matter.

00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:51.190
Come on. What's your lineup? Okay, so we're going

00:56:51.190 --> 00:56:53.429
to start with Fry and Goal. We are going to do

00:56:53.429 --> 00:56:58.190
New Who, Kim Kihee, and Yamar in the back three.

00:57:01.610 --> 00:57:03.489
I think we're going to do... Kim is our difference.

00:57:05.269 --> 00:57:09.429
I think we're going to do... I think we're going

00:57:09.429 --> 00:57:11.389
to do Kent at home. I think we're going to do

00:57:11.389 --> 00:57:14.829
Kent instead of Rothrock. We're going to do Obed

00:57:14.829 --> 00:57:24.590
and Christian. And Alex instead of KKR. Instead

00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:28.230
of Kosarienzi. So the roll -downs will play side

00:57:28.230 --> 00:57:38.030
-by -side. With, oh my God, if I do that, then

00:57:38.030 --> 00:57:42.250
this doesn't make sense, but okay. Then we're

00:57:42.250 --> 00:57:54.789
going to do Musafsky. No. Yeah. How do you not

00:57:54.789 --> 00:57:59.510
put Albert in? It's like, dude. I did. Well,

00:57:59.570 --> 00:58:03.030
that's the thing. It's like, how do I take out

00:58:03.030 --> 00:58:06.409
one of De La Vega, Mussovsky, Ferreira to put

00:58:06.409 --> 00:58:10.070
in Albert? You know, I don't know, man. I don't

00:58:10.070 --> 00:58:15.150
know. Okay, so I think Moose gets subbed out

00:58:15.150 --> 00:58:17.489
for Kent shortly after. So probably around the

00:58:17.489 --> 00:58:21.389
60 -minute mark, maybe even longer. And Jesus

00:58:21.389 --> 00:58:23.969
moves up top. I think that's going to happen.

00:58:23.989 --> 00:58:26.989
So it would be Kent. Rosnack, De La Vega across

00:58:26.989 --> 00:58:29.210
the attacking band in front of Christian and

00:58:29.210 --> 00:58:32.869
Obed who are in front of Tolo, Bell, Yamar, and

00:58:32.869 --> 00:58:35.230
Alex. I think just mileage on Kim playing the

00:58:35.230 --> 00:58:38.150
last few matches. I think Bell, who's shown well,

00:58:38.289 --> 00:58:42.309
deserves some minutes. And Alex as well deserves

00:58:42.309 --> 00:58:48.730
some minutes. It'll be a 4 -2 -3 -1. Okay. Interesting.

00:58:49.030 --> 00:58:52.489
Which they're familiar with. Right? It's not

00:58:52.489 --> 00:58:54.989
like it's a big change. We pretty much play that

00:58:54.989 --> 00:58:59.590
way until we get the ball. Yeah. Between a five

00:58:59.590 --> 00:59:04.190
-man back line and... Yeah, the line of prediction,

00:59:04.489 --> 00:59:08.889
I just... Again, we just have champagne problems

00:59:08.889 --> 00:59:12.250
in that we have high -quality people who can

00:59:12.250 --> 00:59:16.329
start every game where you can't get it for all

00:59:16.329 --> 00:59:21.800
of them to be starting every game. So... So that's

00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:23.280
why I think it's just a fun exercise to do it

00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.739
specifically for this one. Knowing it's like,

00:59:25.780 --> 00:59:27.280
hey, we're not coming up with best 11. How do

00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:28.559
we use them all at once? It's just not going

00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:30.280
to happen. Yeah, doing it on the fly is really

00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.800
tough, by the way. I wish you would have given

00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:38.500
me a heads up. I did it on the fly. I just used

00:59:38.500 --> 00:59:46.000
Excel. I am. I don't mean that. Thank you. Thank

00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:53.519
you. You're good. Score, what do you think? We're

00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:57.880
at home. We're playing St. Louis, who's very

00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.440
injury depleted. St. Louis is going to try and

01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.039
make it a 0 -0 game. If we can get that early

01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.579
goal, we can get many goals. If we can get that

01:00:07.579 --> 01:00:10.800
early goal, we can win 3 -0. If we can't get

01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.019
that early goal, it's going to be a 1 -0 game.

01:00:14.659 --> 01:00:16.480
I'm going to have optimism that we're going to

01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:26.360
get three goals, so I'm going to say 3 -0. Yeah.

01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:28.800
All right. I reserve the right to change my mind

01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:33.940
when I see the lineup. Yeah, well, we're not

01:00:33.940 --> 01:00:36.059
recording again, so you can put that in your

01:00:36.059 --> 01:00:38.239
match day prediction. That's right. I've done

01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:39.800
that a few times where my match day prediction

01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:42.400
has not matched up with my pregame prediction.

01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:44.519
Oh, I certainly have because I usually forget

01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:49.429
what I've said. God, I'm a forgetful SOB. Well,

01:00:49.449 --> 01:00:52.710
where can they find you, good sir? Well, they

01:00:52.710 --> 01:00:56.269
can find me in our Discord. I am thescuttlebutt

01:00:56.269 --> 01:01:00.809
on there, but also Instagram, Aaron Lingley,

01:01:00.909 --> 01:01:06.590
and Twitter, Aaron Lingley. All right. What about

01:01:06.590 --> 01:01:12.690
you? Well, on Discord, I am Nicholas, and on

01:01:12.690 --> 01:01:17.980
Instagram, I am Cascades2C. and i just don't

01:01:17.980 --> 01:01:21.059
really post much on twitter so i don't really

01:01:21.059 --> 01:01:23.699
use it it's just mostly to catch up on news and

01:01:23.699 --> 01:01:26.340
that i really just want to answer you guys just

01:01:26.340 --> 01:01:28.059
answer you guys when you guys say that because

01:01:28.059 --> 01:01:29.980
i i honestly don't remember the last time i logged

01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:34.880
into to twitter so um you can add me if you want

01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.320
but discord is where i will be probably talking

01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:44.139
or you know um Maybe I'll get on Instagram a

01:01:44.139 --> 01:01:46.139
little bit more. I have no problem going on Instagram,

01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.539
and I want to, but anyway, it doesn't matter.

01:01:50.900 --> 01:01:55.320
Indeed. Well, and of course, Cameron is Legal

01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:59.440
Minded Punk. All our little links are in the

01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.159
show description, too. Yeah, pretty much, right?

01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:04.940
Pretty much. Pretty much. Well, yeah, pretty

01:02:04.940 --> 01:02:10.420
much. I can't think of another one. No. No. He's

01:02:10.420 --> 01:02:14.099
Legal Minded Punk. He's Lego -minded punk. And

01:02:14.099 --> 01:02:16.380
we miss him. And I'm sure he'll be on the next

01:02:16.380 --> 01:02:18.699
one. And then you two guys are setting up our

01:02:18.699 --> 01:02:22.019
Ultras segments, right? Yeah, I think he's working

01:02:22.019 --> 01:02:25.139
on that right now, kind of communicating to figure

01:02:25.139 --> 01:02:29.239
out how we're going to set that format up. But

01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.340
it'll be fun adding a little different spice

01:02:32.340 --> 01:02:38.340
to our episodes. But in the end, looking forward

01:02:38.340 --> 01:02:42.449
to seeing how that goes. Yeah, I think it's cool.

01:02:42.610 --> 01:02:45.929
I love that he just didn't tell us. We're like,

01:02:46.090 --> 01:02:49.070
okay. That sounds good. Well, I mean, it's like

01:02:49.070 --> 01:02:55.570
when I used our funds to go to Tahiti. I just

01:02:55.570 --> 01:02:58.309
kind of did that without telling you. I know

01:02:58.309 --> 01:03:02.150
you guys were upset at me, but... We're a forgiving

01:03:02.150 --> 01:03:05.690
bunch. I know. I took advantage of that. And

01:03:05.690 --> 01:03:09.300
I'm sorry. All right, well, we should also take

01:03:09.300 --> 01:03:11.440
advantage of the relationship that you guys have

01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:15.699
with James, who was polite enough to give us

01:03:15.699 --> 01:03:18.599
an outro on this wonderful show that we do. So,

01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:23.340
James, take us away. You can follow the Sounders

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01:04:02.139 --> 01:04:06.280
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