He's a tough kid.
All I gotta say is Portmanteca says GENIUS!
Hello everyone and welcome to Sounders Cuttlebutt!
I'm from San Diego now!
I will say it's important to note that I asked Roma who's better Bluey or the dog from Paw Patrol and she said Bluey.
Of course.
But when it came down to Bluey and Dempsey, she went with Dempsey.
I mean, I think that's a good choice.
For those that don't know, my dog is an Australian Cattle Dog who we named Dempsey. We've had Dempsey for 10 years now.
Wow.
And yeah, he was a rescue dog that we got from Texas and my wife was correctly assuming that he's a little asshole.
So, you know, he's our little asshole that we love from Texas. So Dempsey was a perfect name for him.
Plus he's good at rapping.
It's true. It's true.
But this is all his, you know, all her doing on that.
And I'm a firm believer of name your pets after food or athletes.
I think those are good calls.
My dog that I had for a while was named Ziggy after Ziggy Schmidt.
See? See?
And my dad always walked up and goes Ziggy, Ziggy, Ziggy. Oi, oi, oi.
So I bet you even though he has a different name now, my cousin, I gave him to my cousin eventually because she had friends for him.
And it would have been a better life for him than me who's getting up at 6 a.m. to go to work and not getting back until 10 p.m. some nights.
It just it wasn't fair to him.
Yeah.
And so he lived with my parents for a little bit. And then I send him over to my cousin because she had a good home with kids and two cats.
And he became best friends with them. And they renamed him.
But I bet you if my dad walked in and went Ziggy, Ziggy, Ziggy, oi, oi, oi, he would respond.
Big hearty tail wag.
Yeah. Good. He was a beaver. Like a little it looks like a it's a little terrier, but they're hyperallergenic.
OK. So what do you got for some scuttlebutt here?
It's been things of a fast and furious cock a cap champions cup.
Did you get yourself there? It's been I'm not going there.
Because once I start, it's going to happen.
Something about a Chinese chicken.
Chickeny China, the Chinese chicken. You have a drumstick and your brain stops ticking.
Don't don't don't do you're sucking me in. You bastard. You bastard.
So so we have some scuttlebutt that came in that is non sounders related.
So I think that's a good place to start. We don't have a lot of other news, I think, beyond I guess we talked about the scores this week in the Champions Cup.
Yeah.
Because we did see her. I can never say that.
I don't know. How do you say that?
Herodiano Herodiano. Thank you.
I put the emphasis on the wrong syllable most of the time.
They played last night against LA Galaxy and in Costa Rica in Costa Rica.
And it was a one nothing win for Herodiano.
Yeah.
Apparently young Galaxy fans are freaking out.
All these young fans whose first experience was winning the Cup last year.
I've been hearing from some veterans that have been around for a long time that these kids are like, we're out of the tournament.
And someone is like, no, it's aggregate. And they're like, we keep losing.
Well, that may be true.
Yeah. Yeah. But still, they've been through it.
So one nothing there. Of course, 0-0 in Seattle.
She was Guadalajara beat Club America, one nothing on a known goal in a very interesting match.
Vancouver tied Monterey one at home, which is a good result for Monterey.
But I got to say playing Monterey, that's a good result for Vancouver as well.
Absolutely. But what's really interesting about that Vancouver Monterey game is that Vancouver kind of punted on the lineup, even at home.
They didn't really bring some of their top players to start that lineup.
But that was a really interesting decision.
Yeah. And yet they got a point out of it. That's kind of huge.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think it kind of backed their way into the result there, both with the lineup and then also kind of figuratively,
because they got that goal really late in the 86th minute.
So, yeah, that was the only one I think was surprising to me.
You know, Pumas beats the team they were playing.
I can't even begin to pronounce. 2-0. Miami plays today and LAFC beat Columbus 3-0.
So interesting. As far as the Pumas game, it's Alouense.
Alouense. So a lot of interesting results.
But I do want to go back to that Vancouver Monterey game, because I'm starting to come around on Vancouver.
I thought with their ownership struggles and the fact that they didn't really make a ton of offseason moves, I thought that they were going to get worse.
And I mentioned they didn't start their top lineup, but they still went toe to toe with Monterey.
21 shots, six on target versus Monterey's seven shots. They had 65% possession.
It was they, the youth actually kind of came out to play. So good on you, Vancouver.
And, you know, honestly, I would not be opposed to seeing them knock out Monterey.
I think it'd be a lot of fun to see that result happen.
Yeah, absolutely. Plus, like I think I was saying to you yesterday, although it may have been to Dwayne, you were the only two people who said, my dad I talked to yesterday.
But the longer MLS teams play, as long as they don't win it, the better because then it makes them have fixed your congestion as well.
Exactly. And frankly, though, on that side of the bracket, you've got LAFC, Columbus, Miami, the Jamaican team, Monterey, Pumas, Alahuense.
I totally skipped the other side since Daddy Tigris, who tied 1-1. I forgot to mention that on our side of the bracket.
Yeah. Yeah. But honestly, I'd like to see a rematch. If we got to play someone on that side of the bracket, I want it to be Pumas again.
Okay. I mean, I would like to see the team from Jamaica cavalry. Okay. I'm not expecting.
Yeah, Alahuense in the in the semifinal, where the Sounders get to beat Chivas or America. No, after that, Tigris, we would probably play Cincinnati or LA Galaxy.
You really think Tigris is going to get booted out? I don't. I'm not sure. I don't. Yeah, I do not.
But I'm just saying that I don't also think those other two teams are going to make it on the other side of the bracket. I'm just saying what's easiest for the Sounders?
Well, you know, the thing is, though, here's the reality for me is that I have a lot of respect for Pumas fans.
They were fantastic last time we played them in the final. And when I'm looking at those eight teams that are over on that side of the bracket, if I'm going to lose to a final to one of them.
Yeah, that's true. I'd be quite okay with Pumas being that team.
Did you imagine how disappointing it would be to make it all the way to the final and then to lose to Vancouver?
You're beating you're beating Cruz Azul and Club America.
You get to the final and Vancouver's like, no. Well, honestly, that's basically
that's kind of what happened in the 2020 MLS Cup, not necessarily by skill level, but we had such an emotional high coming back late against Minnesota with those Gustavs Venson led goals.
I think we had scored two goals and extra time or late in the game. And we had this this high and then and then Columbus comes down with COVID and you think this is this is all us and we just kind of we kind of shat the bed.
Those things can happen after being heard.
Those didn't help. Yeah. And I mean, you saw that going that happens with upsets that happens. The Miracle on Ice team when this US beat the Soviets that was not for the gold medal game.
That was to get into the medal round. And so they still had to play the gold medal game two days later and they went down to Sweden or
No, they did win. But I was going to say but in between the first and second period after the US were down, Herb Brooks, famous hockey coach goes into the locker room, goes to the team, you lose this game, you will fucking take it to the grave.
And just after that emotional high of beating the Soviets. These things happen. I mean, you see that happen all the time, you know, even to a degree happen with the Seahawks, you know, they had that great comeback against Green Bay and the championship game, the NFC championship game and then they threw the ball.
Yeah, I mean, but also if Jeremy Lane doesn't break his leg or arm or whatever if if Kim Chancellor's avail was a Chancellor Chris April is available.
That game. But yes, but that one actually I'm going to take that one back. That's kind of a bad example because the Seahawks didn't shit the bed. They had one bad play, but they didn't. They played a pretty poor game till the end though.
But but but the Sounders, I would say if LA Galaxy had lost the final last year that Galaxy Sounders match was the real championship. Yeah.
So anyway, so the whole point I'm getting at is, um, I really want to see the MLS teams beat each other up. I mean, one good thing is our opponent coming up with their next game is LAFC who just had that game against Columbus.
And they started, you know, they started, um, Bwanga. They started a Bo Bisi.
They started a lot of their their players, their starters. They're going for it. Interestingly enough, though, is that Gerude not getting a lot of time right now.
So it's not. I mean, he's an interesting because he's not producing. But what he has been doing is drawing defenders off of other players to allow them better shots.
So he's clearly has a value to the team. But a Bo Bisi scoring. I mean, that's I was so mad when he went there instead of the Sounders. I would. That's the kind of nine I wanted here.
Okay, we would be dominant if we had him just a side note there. I like those kind of players. I love them in hockey. I love soccer. I love those kind of players that do the dirty work to get those channels.
And I see that Danny Mussoff ski. He's making these runs. He's putting himself in dangerous positions. And it just breaks my heart that he can't get that because I do believe that once he gets on the score, once he gets once he gets his first one, and he finally kind of gets that monkey.
Off his back, then he's going to be he can produce in a five to 10 goals this season clip. I do genuinely believe that as long as he gets that first goal before the third wave part of the season.
I would have liked to see him sub on last night because you could tell Jordan was so gas that he was not crashing the box on shots like that. Oh bed shot if if someone had crashed the box that would have been a goal for the Sounders.
Well, there was that collision that he had around the Yeah, around the 65th minute and I was watching him and he was it took her Yeah, it took him a little bit of time I thought he was going to get subbed off and then he but then it was it was one of those things right I sat next to two to discord members.
And I said watch him and we were wondering is he hurt and it was like okay well wait for the next moment where he can, where he's needing to sprint and we're kind of see.
Is it a, I'm just kind of be ginger right now and conserve energy or is it going to be something that and he looked fine once he started sprinting. Yes, yes he did. He just, he very much became that Eddie Johnson style player where when you're not moving a lot when you're off the ball.
But then you're going on your runs, you know, as long as we don't bring back the the tired meme of lazy Freddie, you know just let's not bring that back.
Do you want to start talking about the game or do you want to let's get to our non scuttlebutt questions. Okay, let's get a but non non soccer questions. Sounds good because we had some good ones that we've been sitting on for a little bit because they came in right after we recorded
this time. Yeah, so what what what are your top three domestic beers and imported beers.
Well, for domestic.
As far as my top, I guess the question is the top three that I enjoy drinking or the top three that I usually buy because I think that's a little different. Enjoy drink. Yeah.
I think there's a brewery Ellicottville brewing that does this great blueberry we ale. That is really good. So anytime I'm in upstate New York always pick that up.
That's probably one of them.
Anytime I am at Flat Stick pub.
They have a.
They have a sour there.
It's a blueberry sour that hasn't been released, but it's often on there. Yes, like I think you at least the Pioneer Square is usually around number seven on the tap.
And usually get one on there. And it's like a liquid sweet tart. It's super tart, but it's I love it.
And then, you know, probably something like a I do love my fruit beers. I really do. I love a good raspberry wheat beer.
But my third one is probably going to be the Sam Adams Oktoberfest.
Hmm. Interesting. What about you for domestic.
I don't know the names necessarily, but Holy Mountain had a sour that I really liked. So that's that I would go with that. They never have it.
I've only gotten it at Holy Mountain itself. They never have it at Great Brewery. Great Brewery.
Right now, whatever is in that number seven at Flat Stick I usually like right now, it's a mango sour.
Oh, yeah, that one's good. I. Yeah.
So I often will get that. I'm a big sour fan and I don't and ciders.
I mean, other than that, it's cider. I don't really drink beer except for Guinness and and sours.
So are you very, very opposite? I guess I like a good porter, but they don't tend to have those flats.
I mean, most places around here are very way to IPA. I don't I thought IPA would have died by now.
I'm frankly shocked that that because it got oversaturated, I figured it'd be like everything else.
That's such a a trend that eventually it dies down, but it hasn't.
But I think part of it is that the hops that are required for IPA's are so predominantly grown in this part of the country that you kind of use those local.
I just think people would stop buying them.
Well, they said someone once told me a master brewer for Pyramid Ale House once told me that two thirds of the world's hops are grown in the Pacific Northwest.
That's wild. By the way, Paradise Creek is the Berliner Weiss, the Huckleberry Pucker from Flat Stick that we're talking about Paradise Creek.
They also number eight. There is they have the Wander Brewing Black Current Millie Sour, which is out of Bellingham, which is pretty good.
Are you on South Lake Union? Which location are you on? Those at the Pioneer Square one?
Oh, I must be on South Lake Union. And I thought it was at Pioneer Square. Yep, I am.
I'm like that didn't sound right. Yeah, I do. I enjoy it.
And what about you'll know more about this cultures I feel like have been really popular lately.
But the only one I've had is the Kingdom Coltion. That was terrible.
Yeah, that I think that's future primitive, I believe, was doing that.
And they usually have some good stuff. They got the Nazi punks fuck off beer, which is good.
But I usually I usually have the hell bent coltion, my kegerator at home.
So that's a really good one. What about what about imported beers like for me?
Well, you go first. You get this. I mean, that's that's I'm very I like I like a Guinness.
I prefer it though. I mean, I obviously just drink an entire Guinness in our first 20 minutes of our show.
But I like a good Guinness. What is it called? A snake bite where you do half Guinness and apple cider.
Yeah, strongbow. Yeah. Yeah. That's to me because you get the perfect amount of sweetness and tart with that like sourness of the Guinness.
I can see that. Yeah. What about you?
Honestly, one of my all time favorite beers again, I like I like a good fruit beer, the Schafferhoffer Grapefruit Radler,
because you could just drink those all day long and, you know, 2%. It's not even about I like good flavor.
You know, I like a good flavor. That would be that would be a primary one that I like when I'm going imported.
I do like a Corona. I like a Corona. I used to live in when I lived in San Jose, I had a lemon tree and would take fresh lemons from my lemon tree with my Corona.
I know you're supposed to do a lime. But when you got a fresh lemon tree, you just go with that.
Yeah, no, that's good. And then maybe my third one.
Hmm.
Yeah. It I think I think I'm required by I think I'm required by marriage to save San Miguel, San Miguel, Filipino beer.
It's not great. But, you know, or I could go Ecuador's Biela beer.
Maybe maybe I can go with that. By the way, if any of you can ever actually acquire a bottle of Biela beer for me, I would I would definitely we make a good trade.
So if you're ever going to Ecuador and can get a hold of it, please, please do.
You just reminded me, though, there is one that I used to drink all the time and it's way too sweet for me now.
But when I lived in Paris, all of the places would have Lindemans, lambigail on tap. Yeah. And it's fine in the bottle.
But on tap, we would drink the giant steins, you know, with the the the Leder steins. Yes.
And it it I can remember drinking like three liters of it one time and then getting on the subway home and then having to pee on my way and like dying because I would so much.
And I'm as an American, I'm not used to being French and just peeing on the street like they do.
At least back then. I don't know if they still do it. But 25 years ago, you could just go in the alley and pee if you were dude. None of your woman. It was weird.
But, you know, it's two things. One, McMinneman's Ruby. That's another good one.
There were it's not as sweet, but it is that raspberry beer because I really like the creek, the black, the cherry one and the past two.
They were all good, but you can still get bottled. I mean, I should probably get a little bottle of it and joy because they got the little 12 ounce bottles.
But now I'm also thinking about Black Ravens, Kitty Cat Blues, another good one. But you mentioned girls can't pee on the street.
One time walking walking down Ballard Ave right by that little park right next to what is now Salt and Straw ice cream.
And there's a girl sitting with her back against the wall squatting and peeing.
She's looking towards Ballard Ave, like looking for people. And it's, you know, it's dusk. It's it's it's a little dark.
But she doesn't realize that the other side is just wide open from kind of a triangle.
So she's looking as we're walking up and she's looking over there looking to make sure no one's watching her.
And then she just kind of casually glances over our way and just screams because she didn't realize it was.
I I kind of felt bad for her, but I also did have to, you know, laugh rather loud and let her know that.
Yeah, you said her. Did you know that Bielo beer is owned by Heineken now? I did not know that actually.
I just found that out. Yeah, interesting. Ecuador, right? Nice beer.
It's in Spanish. That's all I know. OK. Mas momentos, mas amigos.
I like it. More moments, more friends. I mean, I can get behind that. Yeah. Yeah.
I can definitely get behind that. And it's only 31 calories and it must be 310 because it's kilocalories in a in a light beer.
That was a good question. That was that was that was a really good one. What else you got for us?
Let's see. Anything else? None. Oh, this is another beer question. We'll finish it off on the beer talk.
What's your favorite beer to have at Lumen and why?
For me, it's just tradition with Rainier. Yeah. Yeah. I just a few years ago, I had a public team where I designed.
We are the running Rainiers and I designed the jersey to look like a can of Rainier.
It's actually one of my favorite jerseys that I've ever designed.
And it just became our thing where basically everyone on the team would just take pictures of us holding up a can with the field in front of us.
And to this day, you know, years later, we're still there's a few of us that will still text each other at halftime.
We'll see pictures and it's just kind of our thing. I'm a sucker for tradition. What about you?
You know, I think I don't typically drink at games because of the cost.
Number one, I've never felt. I mean, it goes back to going to see our games. I've just never felt it's worth it.
I will say that the Sounders now have several beer offerings that are cheaper, including five dollars.
Yeah. Five dollar beer offerings for domestic probably.
Grab and go sections. Yeah. And the grab and go. So it'll be six dollars, six dollars, seltzer, six dollars cider.
Yeah. Yeah. So that's the place to go if you if you want cheap beer.
And it's not just pre-match anymore. It is all game. Correct.
And that's actually something that came up in this week's Alliance Council meeting.
So yeah, I actually walked around and looked at the menus for all of the places that were not chain or not not on unchained restaurants, anything that was owned by Lumen.
And and they also I confirmed have at least one item, one entree item available for under ten dollars at every single one.
Now, one of them was nine dollars and ninety nine cents, but still under ten dollars. Hey, it's under ten dollars.
You know, I did go to Bar Dojo because that is one of the few places that has vegan options on my side of the stadium.
And I got decent jackfruit soup dumplings, but you get six dumplings for 18 bucks. So not necessarily the best deal financially.
But but some people want cheap food. Some people want good food. You know, it caters to both sides, you know, just not a lot.
You're going to be hungry if you just that's all you're going to eat.
I mean, I think but but for me, beer wise, I mean, out there outside 120 is where Rubens is now.
It's about the stadium, but that's where it originally was.
And so I always would push people to Ruben since that's the official beer of Grill FC.
And while we're on that subject of the Alliance Council meeting, a couple of things that came out because this is good schedule, but as well, I think.
A couple of things that came out in our meeting on Tuesday talking about different fan experiences based on, you know,
whether you're an alliance member or whether you're a new fan with the whole First Ones On Us program and and youth and families, you know,
they're kind of trying to cater different experiences based on different types of people.
But we did get a glance at the scarf that will be given to those those new fans as part of the First Ones On Us.
And I like the design. What did you think of it? Yeah, I think it's pretty cool.
I basic I like that it's it's obviously sponsored and you expect that and it's better than most sponsored content or items.
Yeah, sure. I thought it's pretty good. So keep an eye out on that.
If you're listening to this, you've probably been to games before.
But I challenge each one of you to send that form to register for that to people that you know that have never gone to a Sounders game.
Yeah, I mean, that's really the thing is, you know, once a week, try and find someone that you know, a neighbor, a friend, someone that you, you know,
you know, has a kid that's interested in soccer and really, really push for that.
I believe very strongly in that program. Yeah, I mean, it'll be super cool because you get a whole you know, you get you get swag, you get to go to a game, you get to meet other new people as well.
Potentially other cool stuff will happen for you while you're there to get you into the experience.
I think it's a it's a chance to really grow the Sounders brand in a meaningful way at a time when there's a lot of stuff to do in Seattle and people in Seattle can be finicky this time of year.
So I think when you get out to a game and you experience it, as we all know, if you're listening to a podcast about the Sounders, you're obviously you're you know, yeah.
And and it's, you know, bring more people into the community. There's no gatekeeping here, right? We want as many people in as possible to come enjoy what we get to enjoy.
Spread that spread that love. Yeah.
Have you had a chance for any of the games this season? I kind of know the answer, but I want to hear you say it.
To go into the fan zone and the Alliance member. What were your what was your thoughts of what you're seeing in there?
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool. Obviously, you have to be a season ticket holder. But if you are, you get to go into a special area which is currently in between the Pro Shop and the Super Bowl.
Yeah, yeah, it's over by customer service there on the Olympic Hall and so northeast corner of the bill or northwest corner of the building.
Yes. Yeah, north north ish west west north corner.
It's not all the way in the corner. It's north northwest. Yeah.
And, you know, it's cool that there's a little area and I actually didn't go in because you can just stand from outside.
I think they're out of the pens the day that I stopped by.
But they did you get an exclusive pen every single match. Yeah.
Yesterday's was, of course, a sound wave pen.
That's cool. You can hear the little rattling of the pens there.
I'm sure sound effects and and my favorite, of course, was the Sammy logo one, the Orca logo. Yeah, which I'm a big fan of.
So and they are buttons, I should say, if you want to be proper, but they're not enamel pins.
They are what half inch buttons. They look. Yeah. No, they're about one inch. They're one inchers. One inch buttons.
OK. Yeah. So the ECS pins were the half inch size, but they're a little bigger than that. Last game, the Antigua game.
Yeah, the Antigua game. Roman Torres was there greeting people yesterday.
Got to chat with Leo Bernie. Nice. You know, they're trying to make one of our discord people ask if he was on loan, but he's not.
I think he's just not active on the roster. He hasn't been.
Yeah, I thought they indicated they were going to send him for a season long loan.
I thought that was the indication to Tacoma. Yeah, he hasn't gone anywhere yet, though.
No. But yeah. So so ultimately, it's a great program.
And I think that that that's kind of one of the things that, you know, my opinion is you want to get fans to understand, you know, access to players, access to the history of our club.
I think these are all good things for for building into what we're about, you know, and becoming a new game day tradition.
So really excited to see that. Yeah, I will say you won't always know who what player is going to be there because it is someone who didn't make the 18.
So there will be not probably not every game, but a lot of games, there will be a first team person there who didn't make the 18.
So once they know that, they'll know what player they can send over.
And so you might just show up and though, you know, it could be a random day where, you know, maybe, maybe Castro, maybe Travian Sousa.
Doesn't want to play that day and isn't in the 18 and he'll just, you know, or maybe Alex had a rough day being held up all night by his crying baby.
And congratulations. Congratulations.
Luca, I believe is all right.
Luca, Lucas, Luca. I didn't play close enough attention to the baby's name.
But yeah, another role done in the world. Yeah. So so there.
So let's keep it rolling here because we're about a half an hour in and we have to we have to keep it under one hour.
We have to keep it at a maximum one hour, 50 minutes.
We can't go up to the two hour. It won't work for the YouTube.
Yeah, that's probably not going to happen today. I think we'll be OK.
I think we'll be OK. So Tim Hamilton asked us, how many players do we have fasting for Ramadan?
Does the club need to manage those players differently during this period?
What are the rules and what do you suppose the effect on the players?
If any, I can say professional athletes do not need to.
Not fast. Fast. Thank you. My brain glitched out for a moment.
Professional athletes do not need to fast for Ramadan.
They can choose to, but they are they under most I know sect is the right word,
but most edicts of the religion, they they are able to forego that for safety reasons.
However, should they choose to, they can.
We saw the Niasse did it back in the day.
And then I know, you know, some more recent players that were doing it.
Yeah. So knew who has done it in the past.
Sometimes I'm going off of 20, 23 was the last time this was kind of brought up in in in some news things.
But in the past, Georgie Manuggu, who's a practicing Christian,
will sometimes fast with knew who and Susoko was a AB Susoko was a Muslim practicing Ramadan as well.
And so and so MLS also has a policy to allow for a break in play following sundown
for players and on field match officials to receive hydration and nutrition if need be.
So so that's also good. I don't know if that would apply in CONCACAF.
But but that does apply in league play.
So it hasn't affected us yet because we've had all seven thirty starts, I believe.
Is that right? And so sundown is six before then. Exactly.
That's the earliest. So anyone who had been fasting during the day can immediately.
And frankly, that's maybe why that's that's actually probably why the last time this was really a news story was 20, 23,
because with Apple TV in twenty twenty four, most of the games were a seven thirty start time.
So so there's probably that's probably why I couldn't find more recent news on that. But great question.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Sunday, it could potentially affect affect us. Yeah.
The one thirty start time. I mean, it could affect.
And there are multiple players across the league. So that may be practicing.
And again, I think it's also not lost the officials as well that it could also affect.
So so we'll see on that. But great, great question. Absolutely.
Anything else known soccer related? I mean, soccer related non sounder specific.
I guess we could say which sounders players are going to make the new next U.S.
men's national team camp and will the club let them go?
The Fisher Conjection. We already saw they didn't let Reagan go.
OK, so here's the thing is the January camp was not a required camp, was not a required FIFA break.
And that's the key difference. If it is a FIFA international break, then they are required to let their teams go.
The January camp was not a FIFA mandated break.
So most of the rest of the breaks throughout the season are FIFA international breaks.
So they would be required to let those players go. That is a FIFA edict.
So although the USA and MLS sometimes do break that one hundred percent, they but they collaborate together.
But in the end, if a confederation says we want this player, they they have to do that.
And it's tough to put the players in the middle of that.
But but in this case, in this case, I do think Reagan's going to get some call ups.
Obviously, Ovid Vargas is on the 60 man roster for the for the next.
I don't see any other sounders, though, unless Jordan goes on a tear.
He's he wouldn't be called up. I knew who's still getting called up to camera.
But I meant for USA. Yeah.
And of course, we do have, you know, players that that are representing other countries.
I know Alex rolled on probably won't get called up to El Salvador for a while because of I think we alluded to this in previous episodes
where they were having some corruption issues where they weren't paying the players and the players were on strike.
And and yeah, so I would not be surprised to get called up to the youth team.
Now, you teams are not is different because the FIFA release dates are always for senior team call ups.
They do not have to allow them to go for youth call ups, which is why sometimes players get denied to go to, say, the Olympics,
because that is not a senior national team call up.
So so just keep that in mind, those distinctions there.
I feel like I feel like I need to push up my glasses here and go full nerd.
But yeah, great, great, great question there.
But yeah, so I think I think Jordan and Christian could get some call up potentially.
Hey, Zeus, obviously.
But if I'm trying to know that Christian's back in his proper position, I don't see him getting called up anymore.
They're very, very position. Yeah.
So I would be surprised. I mean, I think he was only getting called up before as a great locker room guy to begin with.
And then a utility guy should they need him.
But we saw a calendar cost to always get in the play over him.
Yeah. To kill and retire.
Where is that guy? Yeah.
Well, was he in Cincinnati?
I feel like because he was always in Chicago now.
He's moved around a lot because last I heard he was in Colorado and he got traded to L.A.F.C.
And so now as of last year, he moved to Chicago.
Okay. Interesting.
I guess when you go to Chicago, no one pays attention because they haven't been good for so long.
Do you want to go with the Kenny Sloth question about what are your pregame rituals or good luck practices during the season?
Yeah, let's hit on that and then we'll take a little break.
All right. Well, we'll also do that.
We'll also do the follow up with Alex Diaz because I think those are there.
Those are neck and neck. Go well together.
My pregame ritual is I have to set up the grill of C banner.
So then I will usually meet up with you, although because of timings of the games, it hasn't worked out the last couple of games when my dad's been showing up.
But yeah, I mean, I think traditionally it was a flat stick.
Largely, I will be inside the stadium as we move into the season, though, because I'll have to sit the grill of C table until we have some volunteers to do that
because we need trustworthy people who have to handle money and a tablet.
So you got to be careful not have strangers come do that.
And yeah, so I think that's that's my main ritual.
What about good luck practice?
I mean, I don't I consider I usually it's what clothes I'm wearing.
OK, although I've fallen off that in the last two years.
I know, like after the Seahawks lost to Kansas City in 2013, I think it was.
I put on a belt buckle and I wore it every day until they won the Super Bowl.
And so I did my part to make sure because they never lost another game that season.
I did my part to make sure that the Seahawks went on to win the Super Bowl.
So I do have things like that.
I don't I'm still waiting for my championship ring.
I don't know why I haven't gotten it.
So I definitely have stuff like that that I do.
But I've I think as I get older and more tired, I often just try to make it to the game at the proper time.
I mean, honestly, I feel you on that.
Like the last couple of games normally I'll wear like a some sort of Sounders shirt, you know, all that last couple of days.
I just games I've been so exhausted that I just kind of just had a sweater like nothing branded.
But I haven't even worn a game in two years.
My jacket or unless I bought it there, I've not worn a sound scarf to a game.
I don't know why I have millions of them.
I just I just haven't.
For me, it's as simple as I've screwed up my shoulder from years of playing goalie as a soccer or hockey rather ice hockey goalie.
So like I can't hold my hand above my shoulder for my arms above my shoulder for like more than 10 seconds without discomfort.
So I'm happy for you.
Well, I'll keep my elbows down.
I can't do like full extension.
It's just it just it hurts.
I got it on my shoulders.
I probably need surgery, but I'm no longer a I'm no longer an athlete.
I did play college sports, but like I I don't want to go through the surgery.
Like I can still play public right now.
But if I have a surgery, I can't do that.
And I'm like, I like to see what plop sometime.
I'm not working Sunday mornings yet.
I mean, for me, plop is actually more fun than the season, if I'm being honest, because you're playing constantly with new teams.
You're getting to meet new people.
You're making new friends.
Then the season, it's time to get serious.
Yeah, this series as you as you as one gets.
Now, the follow up.
Oh, I guess my pregame ritual.
If I've got Roma, usually we'll get it right around doors.
We'll get her a hot dog.
She loves playing in the the members area.
She loves and you go to yesterday.
You went. Did you go to the dogs?
I didn't go to Al's.
I went to gourmet dogs.
Did that I did.
They had those soccer balls in the Alliance member center where you were basically heading the ball.
Did you see that?
No.
OK, so it's basically.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I really said that I didn't I just saw balls hanging.
I didn't realize what it was.
OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's not doing a very good job.
No, no.
Yeah, I've got a video of Roma basically chasing it like a tetherball and just as a big cheesy.
Yeah, I did see her ball, man.
We should get I want to play tetherball.
Thank you for reminding me.
I love tetherball.
Actually, you know what I did I did suggest to the club is they're asking for advice on on different things to installation to put into that that that pregame match area because they want to change it up from from match to match a little bit like last week they had a gigantic foosball table.
That's like the length of like five of them put together.
It's crazy.
It really was.
But one of the things I suggested was like super super checks bubble hockey. They have a soccer version of that.
And so so I didn't know what that was called.
And then and then someone described it was like I know exactly what Nick's talking about.
But yeah, super checks bubble hockey is what it's officially called the hockey one.
But the same manufacturers make a soccer version of it based out of Buffalo, New York. Ice ice ice manufacturers ice something.
Yeah.
Anyways, us Buffalonians love our hockey.
But yeah, so it's not my kind of pregame Mitchell.
Buffalonians.
Buffalonians not Buffalites.
That doesn't sound right.
That sounds that sounds too Old Testament.
The first letter from the from Paul on the Buffalites.
But um, but yeah, once all white if.
Oh, no, no, we're not going to go there.
But yeah, so so one of the things I like to do is I like to go into the section early and say hi to hi to people there.
There are some people that I've traveled internationally with that I always say hi to.
Hi, Romeo and Esther.
Fantastic people they.
They are also from the Philippines and so they are always doing really nice things for Roma.
And you know they're they're just so sweet.
So I love saying hi to them and hanging with them for a little bit.
Matter of fact, their son.
Is the one who designed those really sweet MLS Cup scarves and the CONCACAF champion scarves that had the the starting 11 from those matches.
I guess others.
Oh yeah, he made a really limited run of them.
I'll have to I'll have to show you sometime after the after the podcast.
But that leads to the as far as good luck practices.
I try to wear the same thing.
They try to sit in the same spot of ECS.
But it like you said, it's been harder these last couple years to be consistent on that.
But what the follow up question from Alex Diaz was what are your postgame celebrations for a victory and your postgame coping mechanisms after a loss?
Why don't you start that one off?
Let's start with the victory.
Usually I stand in the ECS section and wait for everyone to clear out so I can take down the Gorilla FC banner.
That's true. That's true.
And it takes forever, which means if I get down there early enough, I celebrate with Roma.
Yeah.
Well, we always stay we always stay for the for the for the flames.
That's true.
But sometimes it takes a while to get over there because if I don't get there early, I'm fighting the crowd all the way there.
Exactly.
And so it depends largely on if I'm celebrating in my own section, you know, and then I have to take everything down and put it in the car and drive away.
So I don't I don't get to do a lot of postgame stuff.
In fact, when we won the MLS Cup, my partner at the time, she was having a
panic attack.
Manic attack. Thank you.
And but she didn't communicate that it was happening and she just went and took the Gorilla FC banner down and made us go home.
And I wish she had communicated what was going on so I could have helped her and we could have like hung out somewhere with less people and enjoyed celebrating.
So I never got to celebrate us winning.
So I feel like I'm I'm missing the void of of winning a championship.
Still, we'll work on that together.
Yeah, well, we need to I mean, I got to celebrate in 2016, at least in Toronto.
But yeah, I mean, so I don't get to do a lot afterwards.
You know, occasionally you and I have gone and gotten drinks afterwards, but usually it's when the weather gets nicer.
Yeah, especially with those hot summer nights where you just want to be out.
You just want to roll and revel into the fun.
Yeah. What about well, for me, I think postgame half the time we'll get a victory dog.
You know, you know, especially if I've got Bernie with me, the odds of us getting victory dogs are that much higher.
Um, well, I was going to Oasis before, too.
Yes. By the way, Oasis right across from Wajimaya, their bag of chicken for you, not vegan.
Sorry. Not for me. It's ridiculous.
It is a fantastic deal.
But Roma loves the bubble tea.
She is that that we try and really do, especially after a rain game, because I feel like it's much more subdued, much more chill.
Yeah. Easier to get around.
I used to go to Ho Ho a lot after Sounders games to celebrate.
Which one was that?
So Chinese restaurant, probably three blocks.
What was it's gone now.
Three blocks.
It was three blocks east of Oasis.
OK, it had been there since 1981 and on Friday and Saturday nights was open till 3am.
It had the best vegan dish in town, which was their tofu.
What's that fake General Tso's tofu?
I was like, what's that fake General Tso's tofu?
It was an absolutely amazing dish, especially if you added some fried dried fried green beans or snap peas.
But sadly, after being there most of my life, they closed down five months ago and restaurants in Seattle have gotten so expensive.
I didn't even know, even though I used to go.
I used to be a weekly eater there, but can't get out as much now that things are so expensive in this town.
You know, it's.
It's there's some really good hidden gems over there.
Maneki is another one over there.
I'm hoping they bring Busch Garden back.
They put that sign back up.
The food was never good at Busch Garden, but the for the karaoke was good.
Was it Nam Thanh?
Yeah, there's a few places over there.
I'm trying to think of the names of them.
But yeah.
And then what about your coping mechanisms after a loss?
I mean, I have to take the pain.
Look, it's easier because everyone's left because they're sad.
And then, I mean, really, if I get to the car in time, it's listening to Jackson Phelps in the postgame show.
How often do you get to the car in time?
I haven't gotten to the car in time in ages.
I haven't this season.
Or I usually I can make it for the last segment.
It really depends on if we lose, I can generally make it pretty quickly.
Because people get out of the way and I can take down the banner.
But yeah, well, the other thing is it goes up on the iHeart app or wherever you listen to podcasts so fast that often if you give it, if you're there 15 minutes after the show ends, which on a 730 match, we usually be 10 or 1030.
I'm not sure which you can put on and listen like I can just listen to the podcast version of it.
That's that's a good idea.
That's a good idea.
I should try and look at it because often I want to talk sounders like especially if we win.
I want to hear more sounders talk and it drives me crazy that we don't get it on sports radio 100 percent.
And I mean, that's part of the podcast.
You know, that's part of the the idea of this podcast in a lot of ways is kind of, you know, having having a beer and talking talking soccer.
But yeah, I think I think for me after a loss, depending on like, for example, Salt Lake, we lost a game and I just shut it off and I think, OK, time for me to just not think about soccer.
And a lot of times that's usually my responses.
I'm just going to take the rest of the evening off and not think about it.
It was kind of a brutal one, too.
Yeah, just sometimes some what's the line from Malcolm in the middle?
I don't know what I thought I expected, but it was.
But I was yet disappointed.
Are my expectations were super low or basically the middle child basically indicating or the youngest child.
Anyways, I can't remember the Lego if you're not the boss of me now.
All all see what from Berenik and ladies, they might be giants.
So who's next in the geek cred?
We talked about violent fems last year, although I don't think they're still I don't think they're in the same vein as those two bands.
I guess we're really looking at we're ready for some weird references that does before we take a break, though, makes me makes me realize we did have
another deaf, another singer pass away.
Of course, my brain is not working.
And he is not always recognized as a great soul singer.
But Roy Ayers, who's the godfather of neo soul, like people who are in the soul know that.
But I don't think the average music fan knows it.
He passed away at 84 on Tuesday night.
But see, they keep happening.
These we said there's going to be more.
They announced it on Wednesday.
But you would know his songs because if you're into hip hop, many, many, many, many of his songs have been sampled for his songs.
I would say was he part of?
No, no, he's Atlantic.
When you when he said neo soul, I was wondering if he was part of the stacks label.
But no, it doesn't look like it.
Yeah, so he.
Like you would recognize some of the songs.
It's one of those things where it's he's he's famous enough.
His music is big enough.
But but you're going to recognize everybody loves the sunshine was his big single, which was named number 72 on Pitchfork's 200 best songs of the 1970s.
Sampled by Mary J.
Blybes, tried called Quest, Junior Mafia, a bunch of other hip hop rap artists.
He's worked with Alicia Keys, The Roots, Tyler, the creator.
Yeah, so yeah.
And I think in the meantime there, too, the didn't did we talk about last time the singer of the New York Dolls dying?
I can't remember if we know we didn't.
But David Johansson, yep, who also was an actor and Buster Poindexter.
So hot, hot, hot.
Yeah, and an arrow song originally, which I became.
I didn't realize because I knew the song because I got it on a cassette tape of Arrow that I got when I was in Jamaica when I was a kid.
But it was the I think it was the official song of World Cup 86.
Hot, hot, hot by Arrow.
And that's how it became a famous song.
And so it's pretty, pretty crazy.
But of course, David did not love what the Buster Poindexter made him super famous.
He kind of I mean, he's a punk rocker.
Of course, he got kind of annoyed by it.
But but he liked the money, I'm sure.
Oh, yeah.
But yeah, someone one of my friends was his mom was there was Buster Poindexter's cousin, which is crazy to me.
But the other one that you might know him from was he was the ghost of Christmas past in Bill Murray's great comedy Scrooge.
Yeah. Yeah.
So if you needed someone who had a Tom Waits vibe, but you couldn't afford Tom Waits, you know, there you go.
Yeah. And sadly, the Oscars did not include Tony Todd or Shannon Doherty in their in memoriam, which I don't understand.
I get why they didn't do Michelle Trachtenberg, because it was so soon.
Yeah. Tony Todd and Shannon Doherty even died died a while ago, especially Tony Todd.
So important to the horror genre and especially black representation in film and in horror films that it is frustrating that he did.
It is frustrating that he did not make it in there.
The I didn't realize the Shannon Doherty did not.
Yeah, it was not included in that admission.
But but that seemed that seemed like a pretty screwed up snub in particular.
That it was on purpose. Someone just forgot.
But yeah, I mean, that's just how it is.
There's there's a lot of people.
Yeah.
Well, I'm yeah, there's no segue from that.
But thank you for those great mailbag questions.
Definitely appreciate those.
And oh, before we go to break, why don't we you know, we'll do it now.
Why don't we talk about the winners of the last two match predictions?
Okay, cool.
We'll do that. And then we'll go to then we'll go to break.
So for those of you following along before each home match in the or I'm sorry before each match home and away,
I'm putting a prediction game up in our discord where you basically pick the winner, pick the score, pick who's going to score.
First, you get a point for each correct answer up to five correct five correct questions.
So for the RSL game, we had a winner with three out of five.
And that was Daniel.
So congratulations to Daniel. And when you're filling these out,
definitely make sure you put your your discord username because that's how I'll read these off.
I don't want to give your email address or anything like that, you know.
So Daniel, congratulations with three out of five.
And then for the Cruises all match yesterday, we had six people with two points to was the high number there is because 00 is kind of a kind of a tough one.
But funny enough, I guess the rule was you had to sit with me because both Eric,
Eric 13, Bryce DeJef and myself all had two points.
And then I assumed it was Bryce DeJef. I know. I know.
It doesn't say that, though. I know. I know. I'm just reading.
I was also assuming that as well. But then Asian Man 1974 also got got to.
And then a couple fellow Alliance Council members, Dwayne Nakamura and Toonces TDC.
So Scott on the Alliance Council both got to. So congratulations to all of you.
And right now, the leaderboard, not including last night's, because I didn't get a chance to add last night's scores to it.
But the leaderboard, the top three are Alex Diaz with 11, Eric 13 with nine and Daniel with eight.
So, you know, keep those picks going. We're going to keep doing this all year long.
And I was just telling I was just telling Cameron a little earlier today that I'm going to come up with some prizes for the top three finishers.
Well, no idea what it is yet, but we'll figure out something. We'll, you know, give a reason for participation.
We always like to do fun stuff here. Yeah, absolutely. And on that note, let's take a break. All right.
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Hey, we played RSL. We lost to nothing. Knew who had a known goal. I don't really want to talk about it. What about you?
Yeah, I think we did just talk about it. That happened.
Terrible. The only thing I would say is they're a mile high, much like Denver, but they don't have to tell everyone about it every five seconds.
No, they're actually a little higher too. I think they got another thousand feet, if I remember correctly.
But another thousand feet above that is Mexico City. Yeah. And we are going there next Tuesday. But we did play a team from Mexico City last night.
Hey, but wait, before we go into that, the one thing I will say about that RSL game is we scored three goals. They scored one goal.
Yeah. And let's not forget they deserve two red cards. Not that it would have changed the outcome of the game, but they studs up tackles twice. Very, very hard.
I don't care if it's if it's 30 seconds left in the match. It did not game state. Yeah, there was one earlier. There was one in like the 60th minute or something too. I don't think it changes anything.
But no, but anyways, OK, so let's talk about last night's match against Cruises. First off, it's cocky, cap Champions Cup Champions League. I still don't want to call it Champions Cup.
Yeah, so it's Champions League. We are playing a league MX opponent. So you know that you're going to get the away support is going to show up and show up. They did.
So hats off hats off to Cruises all big time and to the point where you know what last episode I was talking about how sometimes it's hard to hear ECS because of the way the stadium is made up. Yeah, that was yesterday.
There were so many Cruises little fans not like all around the stadium, but up in that corner. Yeah, their sound is comes down. And so until the goal that was disallowed, which we'll get to which shouldn't have been disallowed even even Spencer commented on it.
I need to see a good replay of that. I still haven't seen a good replay yet. Yeah, I saw I watched the replay only showed it once on the broadcast. I had it up and saw it. He was even it was a bad call. But anyway, the
until that goal was called off. Seattle fans are little little quiet that change that changed everything though that that made it the crowd get fired up and I don't know if it was nervousness. I don't know if it was surprised. I mean, because it was probably 6040 Seattle fans, but the 40% were very, very loud.
Yeah, I mean, and that happens every time. Usually what typically happens is the away team, you know, Chivas or America will will start with their chance and then the rest of the stadium will try and keep up with ECS and try and contribute as well.
Because they don't want to be shown up in their own house. Now, I will say starting with the interesting decision by conca cap to take away the capos megaphones was were not allowed in the stadium. That's the first time I think I've seen that happen.
But they did allow the speakers. Yeah, so it's just very, very bizarre. Yeah, I was there arbitrary all the club and be like, conca cap is searching us. And they were like, what way? Where's security as like security already searched us.
It's also my understanding that conca cap tried to take down one of our flags. And we basically were like, fuck you. This is the second time that conca cap has tried to do this to us in the past. It was our was trans man.
It was our trans lives matter. Yeah. This time it was our Black Lives Matter flag, which we fly, you know, every every match.
So yeah, I was like, come and take it. Yeah, it was interesting. It was interesting. I was I was actually a little nervous. I do not recall hearing the chant. Yeah, you didn't hear it easier. No. Okay, that makes me really happy to hear.
I wasn't sure you don't need to do it in order to be true to your soccer culture. No. And well, the thing is, it's tough for me because we're literally in the front of ECS and we're singing right with ease.
So we are ECS. I don't want to I am I am a card carrying I'm involved in ECS FC leadership. I run public along with some of my colleagues. So I you know I care deeply about supporter culture I care deeply about ECS.
But but there's kind of two different there's the ECS and then there's the ECS FC. So I'm more involved in the ECS FC leadership, not the ECS leadership. So I want to make that very clear that I don't ever want to feel like I'm claiming to speak for ECS out of respect for those who are in leadership there.
So so anytime I bring my opinions about those supporter culture that's exactly what they are just my opinions. So I always like to make that that claim.
And with that in mind, I find that in these situations, ECS is usually at its loudest and best I feel like we all kind of take that banner seriously and and my voice was already shot at halftime and that does not always happen for Sounders games.
But it was I mean, I had Bernie with me. Bernie was singing along with you know, like and she's not always singing. She's you know, clapping all the time, but not always singing, you know.
But but every time I'd look over she's singing it's just that's that's what I love about the energy of this kind of a matchup.
And and those are my favorite kind of soccer experiences those kind of those kind of genuine matchups all the Cruises all fans that I encountered were were pretty good.
Yeah, I had largely positive experiences I didn't have I should say had zero negative experiences.
Exactly. And I think I think game state always helps the game state helps in that regard, you know, if things aren't going in either teams way.
There's a few drunk idiots afterwards in a but they weren't they were obnoxious. They weren't rude. They weren't they were just going I do you know they're I just come on guys really I realize it's your name.
But can you imagine if Sounders fans were just like green, green, green.
Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You know what you're describing right now.
Oh, yes, it's the same dumb.
No, no, come on. Come on. See Hawks. See, like it's the same. It's I know I I I I'm just saying it's the same thing.
And and and and 40 you know 40 listeners just shut off their pod right right then and there.
But no, it's it's you know sometimes that that is one of the criticisms that some people will say about ECS is your songs are too verbose it's not a simple you know keep the song simple because for the masses and I and I and I get that side of it, but I also never want to be
like Portland where they just go through the alphabet, a, b, clap, clap, c, d. Death. Death. Death. Like to me that'd be oh shit.
I mean that could be. I mean we do the let him you know what we replace the let him die chant with just us like boom boom clapping with death. Death. Death. I mean that is that is that is completely inappropriate.
But kind of awesome. Like, like go full Norwegian black metal. Yeah, like just go.
I need more beverages. Um, but no, but no so I thought I thought the crowd was good. It was a fun soccer atmosphere. And, and I appreciated that here it felt there's a buzz.
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it felt like it, it felt like Champions League. It felt like it felt more intense than an MLS playoff game that's not the final.
It felt it just felt great. I love Champions League. I love the intensity. I love the energy and it's been great to see the evolution over the years.
Let's put it this way. Five years ago, six years ago, you draw zero zero at home. No one's giving you a chance in the return leg. It's well you know if you don't have a three nothing lead at home, you've got no chance.
And, and history would share that out you know for the longest time there were only a handful of teams the Sounders were the first team to win in Mexico. Yeah.
It just yeah it's just it's just not easy to do. But let's talk about the game a little bit. First, so once we talk about the atmosphere setting the picture the atmosphere I thought was great.
Had a lot of fun with that. Unfortunately, a lot of Cruises of Zulu fans bought tickets in ECS.
I know they had to get moved. What happened with that? Did they get? Yeah. Well, a couple things. One, you know, ECS has their own ECS security but we also work in conjunction with stadium security.
You know, we will point out people who are in opposing team colors and kind of connect with them and go hey we're going to move you to a different section. This is just not appropriate.
You know, yeah, we're not going to let you drink in. You never know. We're not going to let stupid stuff happen. And everyone was really good about it. You know, everyone was really cool.
You know, it was it was good. You know, I didn't see didn't see stupid stuff going on and you know and I always like to be a second set of eyes and kind of help point out hey these people here are wearing are wearing Chivas shirts.
Let's let's move them out of the section like they can't be here. Like, yes, we understand that Chivas are not playing. But you can't be wearing Chivas shirt from Vince Leger that there were a lot of Chivas fans they're trolling.
I think America fans I think oh yeah America. And it was one of the two teams in that match. Well, keep in mind because Cruises of America, Pumas are all based out of Mexico City.
And then Chivas America and Cruises are the three biggest clubs historically in Mexico. Yeah. And so so it's so it's just fun atmospheres.
It's fun. I saw a lot of people walking into the stadium. I saw a lot of people father son, you know, generational one wearing Sounders gear one wearing Cruises rule gear saw quite a few people wearing both wearing you know Sounders hat and Cruises rule shirts and so I love that I mean,
if I were depending on how the sections work out.
Because I'm assuming, because I am in what could be the ECS section for PSG versus Seattle, which means I could only wear Seattle gear, but since we're up top. Maybe not.
Maybe they will that's designated. Yeah, right. So it depends on how they break it down. My plan currently is to wear both PSG and Sounders since I was a PSG fan. Before I was a Sounders before the Sounders MLS, the MLS Sounders, I was already a USL Sounders fan but the atmosphere
was never the same for them as as a you can't that's like saying oh the ever aqua socks you never expect to be playing against the New York Yankees. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say I will say in 1997 the Sounders, the US is la league Sounders did play against Shiva's, I mean sorry, Cruz Azul and lost 11 nothing, including two hat tricks scored against us.
In the Champions Cup. So this is actually the second time the Sounders to play in the Champions Cup against them.
Little better result. Yeah. And so let's talk about the actual game. So we bring a pretty ideal starting 11, you know, depending on, you know, center attacking mid left mid, you can say, who knows where that's going to go but I would say right at this moment that's our strongest starting 11.
Yeah, yeah, I mean even even even if hey Zeus was 100% fit. I think when you're talking about the difference between hey Zeus or Pedro it's kind of tactical preference. Yeah, but so we bring we bring a pretty ideal starting 11. Yeah, I mean, even if hey Zeus was 100% fit.
I think when you're talking about the difference between hey Zeus or Pedro it's kind of tactical preference. Yeah, but so we bring we bring a pretty ideal starting 11 starting 11 that we're pretty pleased with.
I think, for me, the first 15 minutes of the game was getting a little nervous or there was one moment around, you know, in the first 10 minutes where Chivas or sorry, Cruz Azul.
We're making a move to get into the 18, and you could hear the fans swell. And I turned to my seat partners and I'm like, we cannot let them score first.
If, if, if this crowd has a chance to explode on the on the wayside.
It's not going to be good. And so, fortunately, I thought we did a really good job of shutting the down their their opportunities in the final third.
But I also felt like we just were getting absolutely swarmed in the middle third that's kind of what I saw from from my seats and not having the advantage of rewatching the game on replay what did what did you see
on the on the Dela Vega goal? Well, well, let's start with the first half here. Oh,
Sounders are flat. I think they were a little scared. Well, I'd say the first 15 minutes completely outplayed second 15 minutes I think the Sounders played were the better team.
And then, and then the third 15 kind of fell back a little bit again.
Couldn't do much in the midfield.
And then just kind of.
I was a little frustrated, especially getting to the 60th minute without a goal.
Overall, I mean I know it's in the second half because I do think with Cruz Azul not starting seven players.
Missing seven starters that you needed to put up goals in that match that doesn't mean we're out of it, of course, but it makes next week much tougher.
Yeah, I think the Sounders were not. They seemed a little unsteady.
And then whatever they said at halftime.
Brian would not repeat it. So I feel like it was a doozy.
But yeah, his press conferences fun his his fun. I love reading between the lines on his press conferences, but yeah, it sounds like it made a difference right second half we were the more dominant team we had several I mean Jordan had a chance in the first half.
In fact, he had two chances almost back to back that header just went over and then the other header.
He was a little too close to it, but it was bad timing of the jump to I mean he could have had two goals right there.
I will say my I was unsurprisingly highly impressed with bogus. You could see how talented was and what he could do with the ball and without the ball, but still controlling the ball like he did things that you saw overdo where you don't actually play it
you let you you let it go and then watch how the defenders react and it let them just cut through our defense at times and it was it was pretty impressive.
But our defense held on. I think you saw new who make an early mistake and then recover and have a great game.
I think that's that's pretty par for the course this season so far, which is great news because of new who any defender I should say can recover from a mistake. Luckily this one didn't give up a goal. But if you as a defender can be what's that goldfish from is a Dory.
Yes, yep, yep.
Just get behind you put it behind you forget about it.
Just move on gotta be a goldfish and that clearly happened.
I think we also saw in that first half. The beginning of what was the performance of the day and that was surprisingly Alex rolled on.
To me, he was the player of the match.
Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I thought I thought Obed had a had a good game I thought Alex was great I thought new who had a really good game and my God if he puts that header.
Just two inches lower. Yeah.
You know, I loved watching the joy the absolute joy on De La Vega's face when he scored and that goofy ass running high kick dancing he did.
When he thought he took the one nothing lead I love that passion I'm. Yeah, I'm probably going to be pissed based on what you're telling me because I have not seen the.
It was so it was dead on. I mean, from from the angle, you couldn't tell totally because of it was a bad angle it's from the corner is from the bottom right corner looking up.
But you can see the lines in the field and that's what I was looking at, and I don't think they did that. Even Schmetzer said postgame that I don't think they had all the angles.
I mean, to me, you knew how egregious it was because Schmetzer made two comments about the referee post match knowing he's probably going to get fine.
Yeah, well I don't know how that works in cocker cow. That's true. They were innocuous the way that he did it. But he did it. And for him to make a comment he's usually one to say, we're not talking about the referees you can't control what they do you can only control what you do.
So for him to say he got it wrong is a big fucking deal. Yeah, I mean, I don't understand. It was. Yeah, I truly don't understand what they saw.
I don't even know. I thought they went to VAR. Well, he was talking to VAR. He obviously didn't go look. I don't know why they wouldn't go look at it.
At the very least, there were a few.
I think the result is what the result is. But I was not overly enamored with this official. No, he wasn't as bad as the one against Antigua.
The second game. Yeah, the second game. The bad calls, even the first game I felt like there were some interesting calls, but they were they were consistent.
They were consistent in what they were allowing to happen. And I thought it was a fair. This match.
It felt more like the A.R.'s and the ref were not on the same page. The ref wasn't calling clear fouls, but was giving up touchy fouls to Cruz Azul.
And then the A.R.'s were just making bad calls all game. I mean, I think that's that kind of hits it like like we are getting.
It's almost like we forgot the dark arts part of Concord calf. Yeah.
Because it felt like we're giving up fouls and we weren't getting the calls back.
I mean, there were times where we're getting absolutely two handed shoved from behind.
Because we didn't act like we got shot and roll in around the field like you.
You just been stabbed in the face with a knife and then scream at the ref. We're not going to get the call. There was one flop.
So egregious at the near the end of that match, because it was when I was standing or I was sitting next to you. Yeah.
Hanging out with Roma and and Bernie. And it was like the guy threw himself up in the air and was like and fell down to the point where like
I have never seen a stronger example of simulation in my entire life and how that guy isn't just permanently banned from the sport forever for flopping.
I mean, that was man who Janobly style. Tell me how you really feel. I mean, this is this is ridiculous.
You haven't seen something like this ever before. It was it was wild. That was almost.
I just as I was saying that I could almost hear Trump saying it. That was the voice was the I can't do it.
I don't please don't. And it turned into like Obama meets Bill Clinton voice.
That's a good thing. It's a good thing.
But yes, so I thought I thought I thought the second half, the energy came to us for sure.
Right. We figured out we could counterattack and that changed everything.
Yes. And I and I and I thought we were doing a better job of getting behind them.
They were doing a better job of staying on top of us.
They were just swarming and it really made the team work on their quick one to passing in their quick movements.
It just felt like we just weren't able to get those balls behind.
I would have liked to have seen us get a little bit more behind when Georgie came on.
And it just felt like they just couldn't quite get there. Their center back had a good game.
I think you had mentioned halfway through the game that Bogus is still a storm in our side.
But fortunately, it didn't cost us yesterday.
No, I'm surprised we didn't have him take a couple of those free kicks they had.
They were a little bit further out than the one he made the previous weekend.
But yeah, yeah. But but I mean, in the end, the reality is we are we are at that stage of this tournament where there are no easy outs.
And if you if you think any of these are easy outs, well, then I maybe you haven't been watching CONCACAF as long as some of us.
So I don't mean to sound like like a dick there, but it's just that these are we are down to the final 16.
And these are some very difficult teams. There's there's no easy wins.
With that in mind, I think we can get a result in Mexico City.
I think that it's very doable.
We got to get through LAFC, obviously.
Now, we got LAFC.
Cruises who on Saturday has Monterey doesn't get easy for you.
And they have Monterey with their one one game at Vancouver, even though that still gives them that way goal there, they still have to put in some good players there.
Now, now the good news is for both teams is Chris Azul's playing in Mexico City and Seattle's playing in Seattle against LAFC.
So neither of them have to do extra travel.
That's good for both teams, you know. But yeah, so so these are not.
But but I'm kind of happy to see that, because that means both teams got to play on Saturday and then on Tuesday.
So it doesn't really give anyone an advantage there. So I I'm I'm very pleased with that.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
But but yeah, so it both coming in for us, both the Sounders will be rotating the squad.
So will LAFC, LAFC, even though winning three, nothing have to go to Columbus.
So I think they may still sit many of their starters.
And it's going to be a tale of who's whose bench is more deep.
Yeah, so it comes down to and I think it's us.
So we're talking about the LAFC matchup. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, yeah, I'm talking about the fixture congestion.
So, oh, yeah, that when it comes to that fixture, I think it favors us in this instance.
Yeah, I think that that I think that's probably correct.
But but in the end, all of the teams, they got to play the games, you know, and so I like
I still I still stand by the fact that I like what I see.
We could have had we could have had some goals and boy, that's going to
you know, if we don't get out of this round, we are going to be looking at some of that and going,
I wish we could have would have should have.
But I also think that this plays into this plays into we you know, we've got the ability to do this.
And and there's a side of me that really wants to see us take on Cruz's all wants to see us take on America,
take on and just and just, you know, advance through very difficult games and win, you know, and keep winning.
I want you know, I want to I want to see us, you know, I want to see us win these tough games.
I don't even know if I'd put a percentage on it at this point, but it'll I'm just kind of in a I'm going to sit back
and watch and hope for the best at this point.
Yeah, I mean, if the Sounders score first in Mexico City, everything changes.
Yeah.
I mean, if you can if you can get that crowd against you.
So if you get those Cruz's all fans to turn on their team, that's that's the plan of attack.
You know, you get that get that early, early goal.
You know that zero zero, they're going to come in expecting to push us around.
And you know, and if we can just avoid that, I think I can have play rather than first half.
Yeah. Yeah.
Very pleased to see us get our first clean sheet of the year.
So so great job by the back line.
Really, really pleased to say something about that, though.
I think I can't remember who said it on our discord during.
Of course, you can you can come in on the Sounders match day channel and we during the match and all day long,
we're having Sounders discussions.
So talking about the match live, it's pretty fun community to join there.
But it does feel like Frye has his reactions are not as quick as they used to be.
And I'm wondering if maybe before the end of the season, we do see the switch over to Andy Thomas.
We're a long ways away from that.
I was just I was a little bit surprised at some of his reflexes being slower.
There could be a million reasons for that.
We're not you know, and it could be where his defenders were standing.
So he couldn't see the ball quite the same way.
You know, but I was I mean, obviously, no goals went in great, great job by the entire defense, including Frye.
Can you imagine if we had their keeper, though? Oh, my God, it would give us heart attacks.
Oh, my God. He it I do think that the way we are pressing is the path because because all it takes is him to get a little too penisy.
Just wants it jumped at a different time on that one.
Oh, I know exactly the one you're thinking of.
Yeah. Although they tend to call the fouls on the offense there and not the goalie, which I hate because I mean,
we don't need to go back to the old days. I have a video called Soccer's Hard Men that has what's the actor who played for Chelsea and Wimbledon.
But he's in like lock stock into smoking barrel. Yeah. Not keen.
It's yeah. Well, anyway, yeah, he's he's on the cover of this like, but he back in the 50s and 60s, you could just punch the goalie in the face.
You could run up elbow them in the face and no fouls ever called. And so I'm glad he Jones.
Yeah, Vinnie Jones. That's so funny. That's that's how my memory is going, because I love the show.
He's even though he plays a man United fan in Euro trip. That is still one of the funniest scenes in that movie. That is that is a great scene.
And speaking of, you know, RIP, Michelle. Yeah. Yeah, she's amazing.
That one and that movie has the best cameo in the history of film.
Scotty doesn't know. Yeah, it's got to know.
If you haven't seen Euro trip, don't don't tell Scotty. Yeah, it's 2000 early 2000s trash 2004.
You should definitely watch it if you haven't seen it, because it it's emblematic of what film was at that time for bad teen comedies.
But very fun. But but, you know, it also has I mean, Fiona, I had a crush on her.
I was after what she did to Scotty. No, she was in smallville.
She was Lois Lane or Lana Lane in smallville. And she's Canadian. So, you know, you know, I'm going to yeah, I'm going to.
Yeah. Yeah, no, my my era. That movie is all Michelle Trachtenberg for me or Swedish.
Is it the Swedish lady? Oh, Jessica Bors.
Makey. The beautiful thing is before Euro trip, there is a movie called Road Trip that starred Tom Green and Breckenmeyer that I feel like was the spiritual prequel to this film.
I guess it was first. So predecessor. Anyway, so yeah, sounders sounders have to travel to Mexico.
It's going to be tough. Do you have a just in case we don't get another episode in since Tuesday.
So it'll be tough with you working every day next week.
What what do you what are you predicting happens down in Mexico?
If we get that first goal, then we are going to be we are going to be pushed on the pressure.
We're going to be pushed. And so it'll really come down to how do we play?
Do we bunker and absorb it? Because if we try and bunker, I don't think that's the answer.
I think the best offense is our best defense is a good offense to a degree. We got to keep attacking to a degree.
We got to be able to do that.
But I think we get that first goal.
And I think around around the 60 to 75 minute range, they get the tie and then the last 15 are a buck clenching.
You know, press, we tie one one and advance on away goals. Oh, that'd be amazing.
Because you know, if we've got that lead late, it's just going to be kitchen sink time and and it's going to be a lot of clenching.
It's going to give me some serious FOMO because that's where that's where we saw the two to draw against Pumas in the first leg of the CCL final in the pouring rain and wonderful, wonderful matchday experience.
We weren't allowed to have drums in the in the stadium, so we bought a pickle barrel off of one of the vendors.
We took a couple bottles of water.
John Danforth, one of the original ECS drummers, you know, grabbed a couple water bottles and was drumming till his knuckles were bleeding because they were using water bottles to drum on a pickle barrel.
We were surrounded by surrounded by riot police right in front of us.
And you know, as we're singing para ganar los sounders, you know, you can see them nodding and, you know, giving some respect.
It was just it was just a great atmosphere.
And so I'm very happy for those who are going to make that trip.
And hopefully, you know what you give us a one one draw, you give us a two to draw those results will send us through.
So so give it to them. I love that.
Make that happen. I just can't see Conca calf.
I'm going to rain in your parade. I can't see concaf allowing us to score goals.
We also have struggled to score goals outside of Conca calf this season.
I'm going to nothing cruises. Okay. Okay.
I think they have seven starters back and it's just going to be too much for the sounders.
I'll push back on the seven starters back.
Some of them didn't make the trip.
Some it was ambiguous as to why some it sounded like was fitness issues.
So so issues I question whether that's the case.
I I think I think it's maybe a little bit of column a little bit of column B personally.
But I mean, ultimately in this match, they had 56 percent possession.
We have 44. They had seven shots. We had eight. They had two on target.
We had one obviously our one shot on target that went and didn't count.
So really we had nine passing and woodwork does not count.
So we had to hit woodwork. They don't count as an on target.
Oh really? That should count. No, no, no, no.
Because because on target is if there's no goalie, it goes in. That's true.
So woodwork, there's no goalie. It didn't go in.
So that's not on target. Same thing with hockey.
Interestingly, they got two yellow cards to our one, but I feel like they deserve far more.
And maybe one was a bench yellow card to the coach.
So that doesn't. Yeah.
And and which was interesting because really I think Bogus probably deserved one.
He he he dove on that play and then winded. Oh, yeah, I agree.
You know, overall, you know, am I disappointed?
Yes. Is it a bad result? No, I don't think it's a good result,
but it's not a bad result because we live to play another day and you win and you're in.
Yeah. I mean, I was driving with the Alliance Council member Scott
to the Alliance Council meeting on Tuesday and I said, you know what?
There's a you know, a zero zero. I think I'd be OK with a zero zero.
So you can blame me. Sorry about that.
Because right now, basically, we win the game.
We advance any draw gets us to at the minimum penalties.
But with any goal scoring draw, we advance that.
Just on a strict technical level of all the different results that puts us in a good spot.
Yeah. But I know the games are not played in a vacuum
and obviously Mexico City with pollution and altitude combination.
Not going to be great. We scored two goals last time we were down there, though.
Yeah. Well, yes, they're both penalties.
And and one was very, very late because Christian rolled on
just was a bulldog in the box and they made a stupid play.
But I also also very, very wet rainy day.
And a different team. Yeah. You know, we Raul, we had Nico.
So we've had success in that stadium. Yeah. Yeah.
So I think there's reasons for I think there's reasons for optimism.
Obviously, Paul Arreola has experience with the MX
on play in a way that showed that he did yesterday.
I love the pace on his crosses. Yeah.
I'm going to set the over under of I'm going to say if I go one point five
for own goals that he creates this year, are you going to take the over or the under on one point five?
I think process because he can get he can although his crosses are so good that they might not go to the defender.
They might always just go to our players. But but he's putting such pace on him.
It forces the defenders to make a quick play. So that's why I don't know if it's going to be more than one because I also don't know.
I'm making this up as I go. I don't really know how many own goals there really are in a season.
But I feel like I feel like he's going to he's you know, we're going to we're going to harken back to this conversation at some point this season.
It's going to happen at least once. And I think I'm taking the over on that as well, by the way.
That's good. Yeah. So we got a few minutes left here. So let's let's talk.
L.A. of C. real quick. Okay. Like I said before, they're going to rotate their squad. We obviously are going to rotate our squad.
They have a game on, I think, Tuesday, I want to say, in Columbus.
What do you think? And coming up on this match, I do feel this is a chance for maybe Roth Rock and Georgie to shine a little.
I think they both struggled, especially Roth Rock against R.S.L.
And Georgie last night tried to go in there and play like he was playing a bottom table MLS team and just immediately got schooled.
He tried to go through players and they were like, no. Well, yeah, like one of his first touches, he tried to do a three on one.
And we're just no, he didn't look terrible, but he clearly was overmatched.
He I bet he's never played a team that talented before, just based on, you know, his pedigree.
And that's not his fault. Well, I mean, one of the one thing that I keep talking about with Georgie is that he's always creating chances and he got no chances created in 45 minutes.
So, yeah. So I think I'm sorry. That was sorry. That was the R.S.L. game.
He had no chances. He had no chances created in 20 minutes yesterday. Yeah.
So so, yeah, I think I think I still give us the edge.
I think our bench is deeper. And from the way that Brian talked about it, it seems like Pedro is going to play.
Honestly, I think the lineup.
I think the lineup is going to look similar to the R.S.L. starting 11 with a couple changes instead of Morris up top.
I think you're going to see Danny Mussofsky. Yeah, I agree.
I kind of feel like he will not be starting. I don't know.
I kind of feel like he will actually because I got him off in the 86 minute yesterday.
Actually, let's think about this.
If you've got Mussofsky up top, you've got Rothrock and Georgie on the wings.
Maybe Pedro in the center with JP and Danny Lava in the center mid. I like that.
John Bell's going to start. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Ransy gets another call up.
Can only do that three times in the season. Is that right? Twice for a player.
Five. They change it after the call up for a single ship. Yeah. Yeah. Five.
Yeah, they changed after Columbus got kind of screwed. They deserved it.
I don't know. They did. They did. They should have done something about it.
That's not anyone. That's their problem. Yeah. But do you see Cody Baker?
I'd like to. I don't know what's happened. I don't know why he's not getting time.
But yeah, I think it's he should be out there.
I think I think when we see the lineup, it's going to look like a final 16 US Open Cup match lineup.
I don't remember. Oh, no, I wasn't referring to the last time when we played against them in the US Open Cup.
I meant like final where you're going to see a mixture of starters and backups,
but you're not going to see all starters is what I'm getting at.
Oh, you meant last year. I thought you meant 2016. I was like, I don't remember that year.
No, I didn't mean that exactly. But now you have me. Yeah. But now you got me curious.
And like, I'm curious what our starting lineup. Oh, no, I'm just kind of so give me a score prediction for L.A.F.C. at home.
I do think we get some goals. And honestly, I think Danny's getting off the score sheet.
I am I am I am picking Danny to score a score goal.
And you know what? Fuck it. He's going to get a brace. He's going to get a brace. We're going to win three one.
Nice. I love it. That's a great prediction. I'm going to one with the Pedro de la Vega goal.
And we will be up only one goal in the 80th minute and we're not going to allow a goal.
OK, well, that might. Yeah, that's interesting. We're in that streak.
Let's let's end it there. I do want to say we had some bad news happen during our podcast where that affects a lot of people locally in Seattle.
A 12 year old over at Washington Middle School in the central district was struck by a car and killed in the parking lot at lunchtime just within the last hour.
So, oh, man. So, you know, I grew up right by there and lots of friends that went to Washington.
Sad. Sorry to end on a sad note. It's just been bugging me during this that that happened.
And, you know, it's in a parking lot, but that is a place where people drive fast.
So a real bummer. I'm sure. I don't know. We don't know any details, but, yeah, kids are short. Cars are big.
We have not built our society around having SUVs. It's a bummer.
Shout out to anyone affected by it. I'm sorry for your loss. It sucks.
You never want to see that. Yeah. Bad news all around.
On that note, where can they find you on Cascades to see? Yeah.
Well, on Instagram, Cascades to see on blue sky, Nicholas dot B sky dot social.
And I'm just going to stop talking about Twitter, because I've nickel it.
You just got you just chose your first name. That's awesome. Yeah.
I did punk on everywhere. Continue on Twitter, especially I'll talk about Twitter because I've had a fun time the last few weeks trolling MAGA people and right wingers.
And I'm getting thousands of likes on some of my tweets.
So there is a strong force of all the liberals left.
And now it's just the leftists that are still there fighting. So it's it's pretty fun.
Don't put a target on your back. And though I do want to say I do want to I do want to read a contribution really quick from our co host Aaron Langley.
And he and I quote, You should mention I exist this episode. We did.
We did. We did. You talked about how fun it would be to travel to San Diego in a playoff matchup, but not to watch the match in person with me.
No, we wouldn't do that. You can stay home. We're going without you.
You're not going to watch live anyways. You're going to be like often the bathroom because you can't watch because it's going to ruin the score.
You can't know the score. It's not allowed. It's not allowed.
You must time shift all matches. I don't have I ever watched a match with Aaron. I don't think I have. I think he's always sat somewhere else.
Oh, Aaron, I can't wait to see you. I can't wait to see I miss you.
I let let's get that computer sorted out. Yes.
You know, get to get that sorted out. Let's get you in on our next on our next episode.
You're you're long overdue and you should be getting getting under under control in San Diego. Now that's me putting that out into the world.
I will say we can end the show in the way that he has done, but we have not done once, which is saying it's time to bring the show into port.
Oh, I only have beer. Was I supposed to get a port?
Boo. I do. You got you probably do have port back there, don't you?
I probably do. I definitely have port flavored with a port aged whiskeys.
Yeah, that's that. I mean, that there that's my jam right there, as I've said before, that I'm light on the beer content because I'm heavy on the whiskey content.
But drinking whiskey at 1pm on a Thursday maybe isn't the best idea.
That's going to be going all night as we bring it into port. Do you have any final words?
Um, stay the course. Let's let's enjoy the ride.
I like what I'm seeing from this team.
It's not going to be easy right now. Some people are like, Oh, I wish we just get out of CCC so we can get back to league play.
No, we go hard on every damn tournament and league that we're in.
And league play is about to get a lot easier anyways.
Yeah, in this weekend.
Just keep this in mind about our league play. Our league play starts hard and ends hard.
You know, the the last, you know, five weeks of the season are going to be tough for us as well.
Outside of that, let's let's let's roll with it.
You know, it's this is what happens when you're a good team.
And yeah, and speaking of hard being a good team is awesome.
It does not suck, but enjoy the ride. Don't be so doom and gloom people.
The hard part, like I I should have enjoyed yesterday more than I did, but the whole time all I could think about is what's going to happen when we go back to Mexico City.
Hey, live in the moment.
You know what you should have done? You should have lived in the moment and walked outside because that felt like I was in Mexico City.
All the vendors like all the vendors with the food, the weather was nice.
We got some we got some street food from from one of the vendors.
I think they overcharged us like they they well, they they charge us ten dollars a piece for a hot dog.
There's some hot dog vendors out there that are charging that much low to post game, not post game.
Yeah, but not post game.
But, you know, I, you know, it's OK. I know I did.
I 100 percent know I did. And you know what?
I like supporting because they came out to they came out to make some money and it was just it was just a great atmosphere.
And and I love that about Champions League.
I love that about soccer. And so why don't we why don't we let James take it away?
Sounds good. Bye, everybody.
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Alexa, who's the best MLS team of all time?
Scuttle Sounders are both other people. Best MLS team of all time.
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