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He's a tough kid.

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All I gotta say is, Pogba can't say she.

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It's sensational.

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It's Seattle's service FC soccer.

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Robert Boll!

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Sounders Skuttlebutt.

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I am your host for today, Cameron Collins, and I am here with my other host, Nicholas Biela.

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What's up, dude?

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Y'all ready for this?

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Now I'm gonna have the jock jams stuck in my head.

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All right, I love that.

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That was a go-to when I'm roller skating, you know.

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This next song will be for boogie skaters and bouncers only.

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If you don't know how to boogie skater bounce, now is definitely not the time to learn.

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Please take a seat.

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Once again, this next song is for boogie skaters and bouncers only.

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Back in the day when I was a DJ at Skateland.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That rolls off the tongue.

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Don't forget, Gary Glitter was on there.

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Ooh.

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The hockey song.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's not the...

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Yeah, we're not gonna talk about Gary Glitter or his criminal mischief.

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Yeah, we will not.

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How you doing?

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Good, good.

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I do want to say real quick, just so everyone knows, we do know that last episode there was a little bit of audio fuckery.

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And we're working on it.

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We're figuring it out.

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And today, hopefully, it will be fixed.

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But don't worry, I did spend hours trying to fix it.

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We'll get there.

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Well, that's the kind of stuff that's gonna happen.

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The episode before there was too.

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Because remember, it was recording through my...

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For the first half of the show, it was recording through my camera instead of my mic.

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And so the quality for me for the first half of the show before was terrible.

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Terrible. Just terrible.

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Terrible. Just terrible.

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I'm doing okay.

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I had my radio show tonight, so I did that.

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And I got 26 needles shoved into my head today.

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That doesn't sound very fun.

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I'm not gonna lie.

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No, it's not. But it's the only thing that fixes my Botox and TMJ.

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I mean, fixes my headaches and TMJs.

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They give me Botox.

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So it's not the same level that you get when you are trying to smooth out your face or whatever it is that people do.

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But I got a lot of shots all over my head and shoulders and neck and jaw.

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It's pretty wild.

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I had to take a nap.

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You're back?

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Yeah.

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Everywhere.

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No, no, no.

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All those places.

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And muted.

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So you know what helps after having a lot of procedures like that?

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I think a beverage might help you out.

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Are you still doing the good old fashioned PBR?

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I am. I still have a few to go.

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So I'm gonna keep on rocking on that.

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What have we tried?

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Keep on rocking in the free world!

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What have we tried simultaneous?

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Okay, are we doing 3, 2, 1, go?

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Are we going full lethal weapon here?

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Like 3, 2, 1, go? Yeah, let's do that.

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You wanna count it out?

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3, 2, 1.

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Is there a delay? What happened there?

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I don't know.

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We'll see how that sounds.

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We'll see. Cheers.

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Mmm, seltzer water.

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Too late for me to drink a beer.

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I do have Guinness in the fridge.

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Maybe next episode.

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You know, same thing is coming behind the corner.

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So you know, it's coming up before we know it.

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We had a busy week.

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Yeah, we gotta talk about that.

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Other crazy news.

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I got to meet.

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Alex Diaz from our Discord.

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Who was at the match, sitting a section over from me.

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He grabbed me and said hi, which was really cool.

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And it's funny because Alex looks just like his avatar on Discord.

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Even though that was taken many years ago.

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I was like, I know you.

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That is awesome.

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Good to see Alex or good to hear that Alex found you.

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Super fun.

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It was a wet one.

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My feet were so soaked that I bought new socks.

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I got actually they had stride line.

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Oh, very cool.

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Very cool.

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No, I treated it.

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I treated it like a winter game.

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So I wore three pairs of pants, two pairs of socks, boots, a couple jackets.

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Stayed nice and dry.

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That was definitely the way to go.

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So it worked out for me.

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Smart.

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I didn't wear my Gore-Tex shoes.

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I should have.

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I mean, come on.

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It's opening day.

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It's going to rain.

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What did you do for the rest of your weekend?

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I feel like I did very little.

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I mean, I did have to go to SuperHawks training camp.

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And the rosters are now effective for the first game.

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Which is this weekend.

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I think we're in Wenatchee to start the season.

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But only, I think, five or six players from the 12 from last season made the roster.

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So we got even better rosters coming in.

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But I did get my butt kicked by that rain.

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I had to sleep in the next day.

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And I actually went to bed at 11 and woke up at 11.

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Because of that rain.

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Well, I'll tell you what.

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When you're ready for me to come to SuperHawks mascot training camp, you let me know.

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I'll be there.

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I'll be there.

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I'll be there.

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I'll be there.

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Oh yeah!

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Trust me. That WILL be happening.

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Oh, it is literally

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a dream come true for me.

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You know how I feel about mascots.

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Did you ever tell me about the time that I had a friend in high school

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who we didn't know was the mascot

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and he was dancing the vanilla ice

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and he was breakdancing and we were the Panthers

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and so he was dressed like a panther

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and his head fell off.

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And that's when we all discovered that one of our good friends

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friends who we thought was just cutting class because he lived across the street actually was the panther.

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That is amazing. I love it. Yeah, no, you have told me that. That's amazing. Oh, it's fantastic. Yeah. This

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weekend, I watched a lot of MLS like 360.

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caught up in great matches. You know, a lot of scoring, there was a lot of chaos going on a lot of chaos. Some of

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those games were drunk. Really? Yeah, just yeah, yeah, the messy the messy match afterwards. He said

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that he was complaining about the referee called him a coward.

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Well, he did get a post game yellow.

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That's I mean, that's what he got it for. I think he was yelling that at the ref.

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He also very well may end up getting he'll definitely get a fine. If he was anyone not named Leonel messy, he

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would probably get a suspension for putting his hands on another team's coach.

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I know he grabbed his coach. Did he grab someone from the other team he grabbed an inter Miami assistant?

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No, I believe it was the other team. But you got one. Wow. That's the way I understood it. Maybe I misread that.

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But I don't think it'd be a story. I don't know. Hey, guys. Um, what did you like? What did you like from around

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the league? Let's let's do that. Want to start with scuttlebutt with like MLS General scuttlebutt or going to go

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nonstop? Okay, let's do some around the league.

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I don't know if we have a ton of stuff other than the courts, or not even the courts government agency ruled that

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the courts are correct. And that all of the firings that Doge has been doing are illegal.

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Actually, you know, that's some good stuff. But there's there's there's some fun news we could be talking about stuff

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that we did not bring up last week. Tell me. Yeah, so we will. Well, first off, let's talk about let's just talk

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about some around the around the horn. So if one Josh Atencio started for Colorado in their debut, that was that

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was good to see for him. Yeah, they got his final stats. But Dan Boniface reported to me that he looked great in

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the first half. 76 minutes, he went 76 minutes, something around there. And Colorado got the clean sheet 00

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against St. Louis. So that's a good start. That San Jose game was interesting. That arena. That could be for

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nothing as Salt Lake. That could be interesting because neither of the two primary DPs scored. Everyone else

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seemed to. So San Jose may not be such a pushover. That could be quick, although hey, first first game of the

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season, like, lot to sort out. So we'll see San Diego as well. Yeah. Sam Rogers was not did not play for Chicago.

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I was trying to keep an eye out on some former sounders. Yeah, yeah, they're hurting defensively for sure. What

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was the other one? I feel like oh, Leo Chu was on the bench but did not get in for Dallas. Again, season 18.

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No, yeah, it was better than he was doing here. Yeah. Yeah. So that was that those are the ones, you know, those

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are the ones that I was curious about this year. Those three are, I think the three primary players at this time,

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that I kind of have my eye on. Yeah, those are the three that I kind of have my eye on. Just because I am curious

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to see if those, you know, those those changes do good for them. The other one player, obviously Nico Lodero.

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But I do not believe I do not know if he made it into the actual game. I know he was in the 18. But I could not he did get in.

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Yeah, he got it in the 60 second minute. So okay. Okay. Good. Yeah. So how do you how do you feel about that, by the way?

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How do you feel about Nico? Reaching out to the Sounders to see if there was a spot for him in the Sounders

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and politely saying there's just not at this time? Yeah, I mean, I think when we talked about it, we all said he would have to be making league minimum

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to be a veteran minimum, not league minimum, to be able to do it just because of our situation.

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And clearly he wanted more than that. And also he's more than a year. It's a year plus a club option for another.

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So I think based on the contract he got, we have not seen the numbers. They didn't release them publicly. And I think it's another couple months before they all get released.

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So we don't know the actual numbers. But I would be surprised if those numbers are not higher than would have been worth it for the Sounders. So I'm not too worried about it.

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Well, I mean, honestly, in this case, I feel like it's definitely I'm going to trust the front office on this one.

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Because a few things. One, we don't know what that locker room was like at the end. And this staff knows Nico very, very well.

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So they know what they're getting out of that. And they know if I trust the staff to make that assessment of whether he is a good fit for this team.

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We certainly have how many captains do we have on this team? I mean, if you're counting Christian Holden,

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Paul Ariola has been a captain for many times. Jordan could easily be.

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Joe Palo has been a captain for his team. Kim Kehoe has been captain of his team for the last multiple years.

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We have a lot of leadership. That's not a problem. I'm not sure if Russ Knack was a captain in Salt Lake.

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I don't recall that. I don't think so. But I just want to throw that out there. I don't think that was the case.

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It's possible, though, because he was in that era post post-Romando when he became a DP.

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And Beckerman, post-Beckerman. But yeah. And post-Beckerman. So the two legends of RSL were gone. Possibly.

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OK. But one thing we did not talk about. Well, first of any other any other results surprise you or interest you?

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I mean, well, San Diego. Yes, San Diego is the big one because. Lanking LA at home.

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I mean, LA, they didn't lose a single home, a game at home all last season. So that's a big thing.

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But at the same time, it's the first game. They they'd only been shut out.

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I think there was like one zero zero game, if I recall. But but they it was a big deal that they weren't getting goals in this game.

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But yeah, yeah, yeah. But but you know, they have a lot of changes, so they're going to have to deal with it.

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And they're missing some key players from last season. So, yeah, we can take some time.

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Just I wouldn't worry about them too much. I think they're they're going to be fine making the playoffs.

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I do want to say real quick before we move, though, on non-MLS news, Roberta Flack passed away today.

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I know I was really disappointed to see that. I was really bummed to see that.

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Yeah, I never saw your face. Great song.

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I can't leave me softly. Yeah. Died at 88.

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I mean, she was she had ALS.

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And so she lived quite a three almost three years with it.

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Oh, wow. Some years. So pretty impressive.

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That's a hard to a hard disease to deal with, especially at that age.

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But also, I mean, we can look back at her, not just music career, but she was a huge advocate for people of color and for ending racism and a huge advocate just for tons of amazing causes.

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So her legacy goes beyond music.

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And it's you know, everyone has to die.

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And I think we're going to have to face it a lot coming forward as as as elder millennials, as we see all our heroes pass away because they're all getting old.

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But it and I think celebrity is so much bigger now that it'll be a really regular thing.

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But, you know, it still kind of sucks. Definitely.

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So poor one out for Roberta Flack.

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And if you're not super familiar with your discography, definitely listen to some some really great old school soul R&B, timeless stuff.

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I heard a thing on the radio today.

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Her first album came out in 1969 and originally the label didn't want to do anything with her.

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And so her the guy that was kind of like managing her in her band recorded an entire album by himself and gave it to the label.

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And they were like, oh, this is what you want to do. OK.

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And that's how they got the record put out.

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You know what? I mean, many people have followed that model since.

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So, you know, it works for sure.

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Moving on to some Scuttlebutt that we did not talk about last week, and I'm surprised it just didn't come up.

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I think we were just so focused on the preseason ending.

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We weren't really. Yeah.

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But did you see USL's news that they want to form a First Division and Institute Promotion Relegation?

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Yeah, I mean, I think it'll be interesting to see if they're going to do that from year one,

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because how do you tell someone they're going to have to pay all this money to join and then you can immediately get relegated?

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Well, I think that's part of the I think that's part of the draw.

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And part of the theory is that they're not asking for the expansion fees that MLS is asking for.

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And I think that's part of the that's part of the draw.

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Another question I have, and I hadn't thought about this until I saw other people mention the history of, you know, two tier one divisions,

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because the last real tier one division was maybe USFL and NFL in the 80s.

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You know, for two years, for two years, that was two Division one.

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What are you saying about the Seattle Sea Dragons?

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And XFL isn't the same as the NFL, man? No, no.

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But but honestly, the one that was a little bit more appropriate and maybe the long term goal.

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I don't actually I don't even know if it's a long term goal of USL, because I don't know if USL is actually looking to merge in with MLS in any way.

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I don't I don't know if that's their game plan.

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I think they may just legitimately want to have a full, true pyramid.

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But the last league it's happening. Yeah, I mean, we're looking at the 70s with both the NHL and the WHA with teams like the Winnipeg Jets came over the Hartford,

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Wailers, the Edmonton Wailers, like the ABA and the ABA MBA.

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Yeah, same same idea. You know, so so those are the ones that so be interesting.

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And then obviously before that, the AFL and the NFL.

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Yeah. But so I don't even know, though, I don't know.

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I don't get the sense that the USL is looking to do that.

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I mean, USL has been there.

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So when the investors and if MLS is going to pay for it, the investors are going to go for it.

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I mean, when it comes down to it, but it'll come with the requirement that pro rel happens.

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And so I think and I've been saying for years, this is the only way pro rel comes.

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I didn't think they would try to do a first division first tier league,

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but set it up in the USL.

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And when it's successful there, then you can convince the MLS to do it.

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But until there is a threat, they can't.

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I don't know if this will be a true threat, because look at the teams that are in the

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the women's league, the women's Super League. Yeah, there is they have Dallas and they have DC.

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And then it's a bunch of second rate American cities.

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We love you, Spokane, but no.

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So but but here's the thing.

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Here's the path for that to go forward is right now.

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If if the USL is doing that, I presume they would start with teams like,

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you know, markets like Sacramento, Indy, that are not MLS.

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Indy is already listed as one.

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But I don't Detroit, who I wish their fans suck.

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I wish they did not. Madison, Wisconsin.

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But but but anyways, but the point that I'm making here is what I could see certainly

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as a potential thing happening is, you know, if you're an owner and you're thinking of this

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as an investment, it's like, OK, well, I can spend three hundred million dollars to

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buy an expansion rights and MLS, or I could spend twenty five million to do expansion rights

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in USL and spend a hundred million on a roster.

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And now the cream rises to the top and people are going to come see our teams because the

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roster talent is going to be higher than in MLS.

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That is a path that could happen.

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How likely is it to happen?

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I don't know, but I wonder.

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I wonder how that's going to go down.

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And in the end, do I feel threatened by that?

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Not particularly, because let's just say worst case scenario, let's just say

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this is the direction that becomes the first tier of the US soccer pyramid.

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If that was going to happen, teams in.

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Current MLS markets, especially teams that are historical soccer communities, are not

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going to let that just sit back idly and they would either or some.

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So for example, I guess what I'm saying is Seattle will be in whatever league is deemed

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to be the top tier of US soccer.

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I feel pretty.

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And the money in MLS means it's never going to just die.

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I mean, it's like the NFL was never going to just die.

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They were able to kill the USFL mainly because Donald Trump was a giant dick when he was

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running that league.

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If you haven't seen that documentary, you can see what a terrible business Donald Trump

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is.

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I mean, it is great.

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But yeah, I mean, so I welcome more competition.

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It's good because it can only make this league better.

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I just challenge whether or not they'll be able to pay the players enough to move there

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to make it actually because if it's not as good as MLS quality wise, no one's going to

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flock to that outside of the cities it's in.

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I will.

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Because I'm a super fan.

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Depends on who's investing.

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You know, it all depends.

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I mean, it all depends.

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There's a lot of ways it could go.

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I'm just interested to see the swing being taken.

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I have the threat that say I know a lot of NWSL fans were really upset about the women's

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Super League.

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And I think it's because they feel like NWSL is stable for the first time ever.

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And now an upstart league comes in that could because of the ecosystem, they don't get the

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support they should.

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It could totally upset that ecosystem.

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And yeah, and for people that are not super familiar with that, there have been multiple

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iterations of professional top flight professional women's soccer leagues.

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And when NWSL made it to their 10th year, that was a big deal because there was multiple

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leagues that had happened before that.

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USL with the Pro-REL could be awesome because I could see Ballard being up in the championship

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within three years if they two or three years.

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They did it right.

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If they decided they wanted to go in that market.

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Anyway, they firmly USL too in their current standings because of the fact that anyways,

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but yes, you're not entirely wrong.

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Yeah.

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I could see them easily competing up.

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They would never be on the sounder stature because it's a neighborhood team.

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You know what I mean?

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Like maybe, I can't say never 50 to 100 years in the future.

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Yes.

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Any other scuttlebutt on your side?

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I don't think so.

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I mean, there's probably been news, but a lot of it I think is outside of the realm

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of soccer.

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Sports wise, Russell Wilson, they don't know if he's getting resigned to the Steelers.

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That's local news as you see my Russell Wilson behind me.

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I don't know.

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Will you please unchain him and get him some food?

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He's not chained.

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He's standing right there.

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He's fine.

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I will say that they aren't on sale yet and it's the same night as a Sounders match, but

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I think I might have to miss that Sounders match on June 28th.

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Wu Tang Clan and Run the Jewels are performing at Climate Pledge.

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So Wu Tang, are they doing enter?

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Anyway, yeah.

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I haven't seen anything specific about what they're playing, but it doesn't matter.

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It'll be good no matter what.

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I saw them last time they were here, last two times they were in town at least.

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So looking forward to that.

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I think it's the same night as the Pride match.

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But it's Wu Tang.

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Oh, it's at the end of June?

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I think that's June.

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Yeah, they have to remember it's the day of June 28th.

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Yeah.

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That's a tough decision to make.

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Yeah, we'll see if I can get pre-sale tickets or not.

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Yeah, I saw the Chateau Saint-Michel lineup get announced and there are a few shows that

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looked really interesting to me, but right now I need to better my financial situation

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a little bit.

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You've been going to a lot of shows though I've noticed.

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Well, a lot of those I purchased before in the before times.

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James Taylor, huh?

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If anyone knows someone who needs a dedicated customer success manager, come find me.

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Rilo Kiley?

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Yes, they are returned.

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That's the big one.

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That's a big one that I would love to see.

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I'm shocked that they can play a venue of that size, but okay.

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Oh, Rilo Kiley is, yeah, they're reuniting for the first time in almost 20 years.

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Yeah, those albums still slap.

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Well, but that's different for me, except for their last album, which was like a pop,

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weird something different record.

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I mean, this is the band that...

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Yeah, that's probably it.

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This is the band that I spent two hours sitting outside a venue that could fit 50 people standing

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all crunched in the middle together with Blake after Jenny broke his heart and they had broken

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up from when they were dating.

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I remember he cried on my shoulder.

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I mean, it's the same way of thinking about how Big Macklemore has gotten.

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This is a dude where I used to work the door when 10 people would show up to his shows.

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You know, why don't we talk about, want to do the predictions and the results of the

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predictions?

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Okay, so for those of you keeping track and those of you not keeping track, before every

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game, home and away, every league game, cock a calf game, club world cup, any Sounders

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game this year, we will be posting a prediction thread and we're going to keep a running tally

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of the scores throughout the season.

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We're not going to announce the running tallies each week, but we will announce the winner

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of each game.

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And so today we're going to announce for the Sounders versus Charlotte FC game, the winner

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with three correct answers out of five is Paul.

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I do need to start matching people up to their discord name.

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Actually, I think Paul's discord name is just Paul.

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Yeah, I think it is Paul.

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There might be a niche there, but yes.

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No, it is just Paul.

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So congratulations, Paul, you are the big winner.

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You are better than all of us.

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And I guess a special shout out for Los who got no correct answers.

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The only person who did not get any correct answers.

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I'm sorry.

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Womp Womp, that's just the courtesy sad trombone.

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But yeah, so we're going to do that.

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So we're going to keep doing that all season long.

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I will be posting the Antigua home match probably later today or tomorrow, depending on how

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long we take today and how late we go.

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But it's going to be the same questions each time for consistency's sake.

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Keep it simple.

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Should take you all of 30 seconds to fill out.

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So make that part of your pregame function.

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Sure, for sure.

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And on that note, before we take a break real quick, if you happen to have extra tickets

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to My Chemical Romance at the T-Mobile Park, I was going to say Safeco Field, hit me up,

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give them to me for free.

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Not because I want to see My Chemical Romance.

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There's only two songs of theirs I want to see.

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But because Violent Femmes, one of my favorite bands who I've seen probably eight or nine

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times in concert is opening and I have to go see Violent Femmes.

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My Chemical Romance is cool, but Violent Femmes, one of the best bands in US history in my

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opinion.

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Can I tell you real quick on that one?

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They're one of the few bands and my top 10 bands that I have not seen live.

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Holy cow.

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That I like.

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They were on a long break.

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Well, I'm specifically waiting.

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I am specifically waiting for them to tour on their debut album, which is one of the

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top five debut albums of all time.

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2028 will be the 45 year anniversary.

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They've been doing it a few times, because they've been doing it a few times, but each

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time Seattle has not been one of those cities.

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So I'm just waiting just because I want to see it all.

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They were the final band I saw before COVID shut down.

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So I think I saw them end of February of that year.

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It was the same night as the Oscars.

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Let's take that break.

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Let's do it.

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Hey everybody.

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This is one of your hosts, Cameron Collins.

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Now I know we said this time's time for a break, but really it's a time for me to talk

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to you about our corporate overlords.

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And our corporate overlords are us.

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That's right.

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That'll be a cool interview or something like that, that otherwise you would not hear.

462
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,840
Now we might put out promos or other things that include that, but the whole episode intact

463
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,760
will only be available for you Patreons, at least initially.

464
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Now there will be other stuff that we put in there, but this is where we're starting

465
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,840
at.

466
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,840
Why you ask?

467
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Well, we have bills to pay and we need to make sure that we can keep this show going.

468
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,440
You would not believe the going rate for PA announcers.

469
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,880
So head on over to Patreon, go to Sounders Scuttlebutt podcast and subscribe.

470
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,800
You even get a cool little downloadable membership that has our logo on it.

471
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,840
That's Sounders Scuttlebutt podcast over at patreon.com.

472
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:19,600
Go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

473
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Come on Cameron, give me the car tonight.

474
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,520
I got this cast.

475
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,520
I wanna.

476
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,440
I think I'll leave that in.

477
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,920
As we come back from break, people can hear you're singing in Violin Vamps.

478
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,920
That's amazing.

479
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,920
Yeah, do what I said.

480
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Join our Patreon.

481
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,720
Shout out to all of our Patreon members.

482
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920
We really appreciate you.

483
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Another thing we should say is go give us reviews on everywhere you get podcasts, but

484
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,720
particularly iTunes slash Apple podcasts.

485
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:03,400
We had someone give us a one star review because they didn't like our analysis.

486
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,000
And then still participate in our community for some reason.

487
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,560
So don't do that.

488
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,400
So come give us five star reviews so that you can outlast that person.

489
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Hey, but with that said, if you are that person, you gave us a one star review and feel free

490
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,280
to drop us a line.

491
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Talk to us.

492
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Like what is it in particular that you didn't like?

493
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,160
We're also welcome you to, you know, if you want to.

494
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,400
We know you didn't like it.

495
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,400
But talk to us.

496
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,720
We're happy you know, you're perfectly welcome to be here.

497
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,000
We're not we're not about gatekeeping in any way because you know what?

498
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,760
That's the beautiful thing about being a Sounders fan, whether it's your first match ever, like

499
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,200
that kid they had on the field before the match, you push the button.

500
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,880
Love it.

501
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Or you've been to I haven't been to every Sounders match, but I've been to on average

502
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,880
every one but two per season.

503
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Hey, and you know what?

504
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,360
That brings us to a great, great segue.

505
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,840
And that segue is some really big news that dropped today from the Sounders.

506
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,720
And this is something that Cameron and I have been sitting on a little bit because it's

507
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,640
some of the that we have been alerted to and cannot wait to advocate for this.

508
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,240
It is the first match on us.

509
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,640
It's a groundbreaking fan engagement program.

510
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:28,320
They're basically designed to provide two free tickets and some merch in the form of

511
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,000
a scarf to fans who have never been to a Sounders game before.

512
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,280
This is something that is near and dear to my heart with soccer for all.

513
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,360
I know we talked about soccer for all last week, in fact.

514
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,400
But these are things that are really important.

515
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:50,760
I strongly believe that getting out to games, seeing what it's all about in a live setting,

516
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,960
participating, being a part of that community, which also kind of ties into our whole podcast,

517
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,240
give us five stars thing.

518
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:57,520
All of this is tied together.

519
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,840
It's like, hey, agree with us, disagree with us.

520
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,200
Come out, come participate, be part of this.

521
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,120
This is this is one of the great things about this community, about the sport and about

522
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:15,480
this team is that we band together and it brings out the best in all of us and unites

523
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:23,080
us in this common ground, no matter whether it's a socioeconomic background that's different

524
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,920
or race, sex, gender, anything, all of it.

525
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,320
We are all soccer fans.

526
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,960
So please, please learn about that first match on this program.

527
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,880
It sounds like what's going to happen is there's going to be a website to register.

528
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,360
There will be 11 matches that will be part of this.

529
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:48,400
And you would be able to kind of choose different areas that might be more appropriate for you.

530
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,120
For example, you might want to sit with me in ECS.

531
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,000
You might want to sit in the general seating areas.

532
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,440
You might want to sit in a family friendly area.

533
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,840
You'll have different options based on that.

534
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,520
And it's such a great program.

535
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,920
I want to see this succeed really well, not only just for the Sounders sake, because I

536
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,840
want other teams around this league to copy this.

537
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,260
I want this to be this is how we grow the sport.

538
00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:19,320
This is how people become fans.

539
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,680
And I'm very, very excited that the Sounders are doing this.

540
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,200
So huge shouts out.

541
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:32,280
I believe Ashley Fossberg is is definitely one of the architects of this.

542
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,840
And I know Hugh Weber, this is right up his wheelhouse with fan engagement with some of

543
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:44,020
his other clubs that he was he was in charge of in other sports for sure.

544
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:45,160
So really excited.

545
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,880
What do you have to say about that?

546
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,720
Yeah, I think it's great.

547
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,640
I hope it's done in a super good way.

548
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,980
I'm a little frustrated with what they've done with the student one where it's now limited

549
00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:02,920
to college students, but this could be a good way to bring in more people as long as then

550
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,480
you have accessible tickets after they come to the first game, because not everyone's

551
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,560
going to be afford able to afford full season tickets, especially at the price.

552
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,580
So if they want to capitalize on it, this is amazing.

553
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:15,480
But what's that next step?

554
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,160
Yeah, well, we got to let in.

555
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,900
And obviously, they are.

556
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:22,440
You know, it's a process.

557
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,960
It's all a process is how do you how do you get people to come on out?

558
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,600
How do you get people to participate?

559
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,280
And first step is you got to get them in the door the first time.

560
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,400
You know, so start with that.

561
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,120
I feel like most people to do come back.

562
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,360
I mean, except for I know a few people that were so annoyed because they didn't they got

563
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,600
stuck behind ACS and didn't know there was going to be flags.

564
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,160
And I hate that because that communication should happen long before you buy that ticket.

565
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,680
And they've done a much better job over the years of communicating that in.

566
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,360
They have visual ticketing channels, not necessarily if you're going to buy on StubHub or SeatGeek

567
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,280
that may not come across the same way.

568
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,080
But that's very true.

569
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,480
But again, you know, you you you aim for perfection.

570
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,200
And when you miss on that perfection, that sounded great.

571
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,560
When you miss on that perfection, you you reach as many people as possible.

572
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaking of not communicating, though, was a little disappointed to see my seats for

573
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,440
the rain gone in the stadium.

574
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,440
Yeah, no problem.

575
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,480
We'll be back by the time the rain are there.

576
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,620
And this is one where I get it from a customer service perspective.

577
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:44,840
But I actually side with the Sounders.

578
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,840
They communicated here.

579
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,360
Well, let's back up because we got asked about it.

580
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,360
Alex asks us, can we find out more about the situation involving season ticket members

581
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,360
that had their sections just disappear due to modifications for FIFA World Cup 2026?

582
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,800
Are more sections going to be jackhammered away and are those season ticket members going

583
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,920
to be compensated?

584
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,560
So I mean, I got a check for three hundred thousand dollars.

585
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,400
I hope you guys don't mind.

586
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,320
But you know, no, I did.

587
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:21,680
So every single Sounders ticket holder was communicated on this via the method that they

588
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,720
asked to be communicated on.

589
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:33,720
So whether that was email, whether that was a phone call, whether that was a text message,

590
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,640
you received contact about this.

591
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,700
That doesn't mean you got it.

592
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:39,600
So maybe there is a lesson there.

593
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,160
But if you're asking to be communicated with a specific way, then make sure you're following

594
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,720
up with those communications because they're happening.

595
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:53,080
They just are not happening or not.

596
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Everyone got the information.

597
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,360
Similarly, and I don't know if you got this email.

598
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,200
You did get this email, Nicholas, not you personally, but your seatmate did.

599
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Yes, yes.

600
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,720
Yes, because they're the primary account holder for the rain.

601
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:13,440
But there was a message that went out to all rain season ticket holders that also talked

602
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,320
about it.

603
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,000
And I'm trying to I have the exact email here somewhere.

604
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,100
If I can bring it up, I'm not sure where it went.

605
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:28,520
But it basically says it is possible that your seats will be impacted, in which case

606
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:34,060
for those games, you may be having to move.

607
00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:38,440
The rain start late enough that it's unlikely, but it could.

608
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,280
Players wise, they expect five games total to be impacted.

609
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,320
So I get it.

610
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,440
It's five out of what 20.

611
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,760
Well with 17 MLS games.

612
00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:02,680
But it's like 20 ish altogether with the first one you get for free for the CONCACAF.

613
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,360
And then potentially I could see them giving us a friendly or something, depending on what

614
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,860
happens with or free Nations League match or something.

615
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:11,920
So that sucks.

616
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,520
But there was communication that went out and I'm sure people who did communicate back with

617
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,280
the club.

618
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,440
I mean, if you're getting seats that aren't in the same section, I understand that or

619
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,680
with the same value, you would want some value back.

620
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,620
But it sounds like most people just got moved away a few rows from where they were.

621
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:33,360
One fan I saw on Reddit was complaining that his wife couldn't see because they got moved

622
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,280
back two rows and they're no longer in the front row.

623
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,760
So I get it for sure.

624
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,520
That would be frustrating to me.

625
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040
But also I'm sad.

626
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,120
That's why I'm in a sitting section.

627
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,360
I think sitting sitting standing should be readdressed.

628
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,720
And it also should be readdressed because of the people in the front row stand, everyone

629
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,720
stands.

630
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,220
So there is no actual majority.

631
00:41:58,220 --> 00:41:59,220
This is a sitting section.

632
00:41:59,220 --> 00:42:01,360
This is a standing section like they're supposed to be.

633
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,480
It's like a conference.

634
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,480
Yeah.

635
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,600
So I think that they need to find a way to pull fans in a section to figure out if they

636
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,760
wanted to be a sitting or standing section, if it's truly going to be sitting versus standing,

637
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,960
which that's the rule.

638
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,040
So then then I think they need to figure that out.

639
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,760
But I guess but I think I am in the minority there.

640
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,400
But I sit all game because I'm in the club.

641
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,880
By the way, some more news that came out recently involving the Sounders.

642
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:36,520
FIFA wants that the teams wear their home kits in the 2025 Club World Cup.

643
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:43,340
FIFA in the official regulations wanted to make sure that each team wear their home kits

644
00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:44,420
at least once.

645
00:42:44,420 --> 00:42:50,240
So they do not want them just wearing like their third jerseys during that.

646
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:55,640
Now obviously with the Sounders being the home team, I wonder, wonder how that's going

647
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,080
to work for us.

648
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,160
I don't know if it will affect.

649
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,560
I don't know what Athletico's home jerseys look like.

650
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,680
I mean, they're not going to affect us.

651
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,160
But both of those black, Perry is blue.

652
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:13,000
It just kind of sucks because Paris's main jersey kind of sucks.

653
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:20,760
It's a one of their old styles that they revamped to look modern, but it looks kind of crappy.

654
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,280
And so I would rather as them being one of my favorite teams, I'd rather have them wearing

655
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,280
third kits.

656
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:32,560
Well, it's the at least once is doing some heavy lifting.

657
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,920
So I mean, that could be the Sounders could just be like, no, we're going to wear our

658
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,440
we're going to wear our our new Salish C kits.

659
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
But then again, the Sounders could also be like, no, we want to wear our red greens.

660
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,680
We want to showcase who we are with the Seattle freaking Sounders.

661
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,880
And since blue, that might be the match where they do it.

662
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,960
Yeah, it'll be it'll be curious to see what happens there.

663
00:43:52,960 --> 00:44:00,360
But just some news, I wanted to pass along some fun, fun stuff.

664
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,720
Why don't we talk about that match, by the way, the Sounders versus Charlotte?

665
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,120
Real quick, let's let's get a couple more questions that are not related to the match.

666
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,800
I think there might be one more out of the mailbag.

667
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:19,880
I need to switch back to the show here and get to the mailbag.

668
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:27,320
We can talk about that in RSL.

669
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:34,880
I guess a lot of them we can look at as comments on what we saw.

670
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,680
So this is the only one that will do for now.

671
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,900
Asian man 1974 says draft picks or MLS and X Pro, which one is more successful path for

672
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,960
young players, MLS in general and an opinion on the Sounders?

673
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,840
I think we had this conversation when I had that debate with Dan Boniface about the trade

674
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:57,760
where Colorado got like five draft picks for a good player or something like that or does

675
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,640
money make Garber bucks?

676
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:05,840
And I think clearly having a homegrown system where you can bring up players is far a far

677
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:12,040
better way as we've seen Sounders youth continue to develop for us.

678
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
And for other teams potentially as well, I suppose now.

679
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Some teams aren't investing in their academies.

680
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,640
So I mean, like some teams are just trying to buy their way in with their draft picks

681
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,640
and such.

682
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,480
So, but right.

683
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,480
But I think you're right.

684
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:34,320
Because when I look at the last eight, nine years now, really, the successful draft picks

685
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,520
for the Sounders can start and end with the Roldan brothers.

686
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:43,960
Yeah, I mean, you got to go back 11 years for I guess Alex is a starter now, but you

687
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:50,160
got to go back 11 years to get to Christian and that's in the 20, 2015, wasn't it?

688
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,400
Yeah, because he was 15.

689
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,560
Those guards first full seat first full draft.

690
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,560
So and so before that, we did see times where it happened.

691
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,200
But after that, not so much.

692
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,840
I mean, people that you thought would like Jimmy Oxford.

693
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,600
I mean, you would have expected him to break through and he never did.

694
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,600
I mean, we've had a bunch.

695
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,240
Darwin Jones was amazing, you never broke through.

696
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:16,680
So I think it's a hard transition.

697
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:24,280
I wonder how much this changes with the potential and this could completely change the USL to

698
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:29,120
where if they're bringing in a League One, but the announcement earlier this year where

699
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,160
college might be moving in and playing in USL.

700
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:38,340
Yeah, in which case, I mean, it's funny because you're missing some of the best teams in college

701
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:44,920
since you're only taking the major conferences and outside of those, you've got Seattle,

702
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,560
you, Santa Clara and a bunch of other powerhouses that won't be included.

703
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Actually, I think I think we're misinterpreting this question because of the way he wrote

704
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:59,120
it and I think now that I'm rereading it, I'm better understanding what I think he meant

705
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,880
when he says draft picks or MLS next pro.

706
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,800
That's not exactly the question because draft picks would often go into MLS next pro because

707
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:15,820
for Tacoma defiance is what I think he's actually asking is college students or college players

708
00:47:15,820 --> 00:47:22,120
or MLS next pro, which is a more successful path like staying in MLS next pro.

709
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,120
Yeah, I agree.

710
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,120
That's how I was reading it.

711
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,240
You go to college, you become a draft pick or you go through the academy and go to MLS

712
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,240
next pro.

713
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:30,240
And that's how I was reading.

714
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:31,240
Okay.

715
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:32,240
And I think I think I guess I miss.

716
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:36,920
Don't go to college.

717
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,920
Yeah, no.

718
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,280
Well, I don't know if that's even the right answer.

719
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:49,840
I guess what's more successful path for young players going to I think they're showing that

720
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:57,840
you could if you've got the talent, you could do it either way.

721
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,480
I think college would play the wrong way.

722
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Yes, you don't get the proper development.

723
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,240
It can happen.

724
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:10,680
I think if you're not as talented, you go to college because then you get that education

725
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,080
gives you a few more years.

726
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:19,580
You get an education and gives you a few more years to develop and become bigger, stronger.

727
00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:20,580
Not everyone's Obed.

728
00:48:20,580 --> 00:48:23,120
Most 16 year olds can't play and he couldn't play.

729
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,480
Not that he not talent wise, but he broke his spine.

730
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Remember?

731
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,240
Like he could not man up against grown-ass men.

732
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,240
Yeah.

733
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,000
So not his fault.

734
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,560
He was just a kid.

735
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,240
So I think if I think college is still a great opportunity.

736
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:43,000
But if you true the team is going to be looking at you and the ceiling you have based on what

737
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,360
you're doing in the academy and then MLS next probe is unless next pro is where you get

738
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,640
your 10,000 minutes that make you be able to come up like Stu Huckins and like Sam Rogers

739
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,040
was supposed to do and then didn't keep developing.

740
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,040
Yeah.

741
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,640
But then you look at a Jackson Reagan.

742
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,160
You look at Leo Bernie, who you know.

743
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,880
Those were players that were coming out of high school though.

744
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,600
Those, you know, they didn't weren't, they were in academies, but they weren't blowing

745
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,600
up the academy.

746
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,120
We never heard of Jackson Reagan before he went to college.

747
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,280
I mean, we had him in our academy.

748
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,560
So sure.

749
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,720
But I mean, he wasn't like he wasn't blowing up the academy as a star player.

750
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:19,720
Oh yeah.

751
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:23,120
No, it wasn't like when he left for college, people were like, oh man, I really wanted

752
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,120
us to sign him.

753
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,120
No, no.

754
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,120
Whereas AOC is the opposite.

755
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,680
AOC is the total opposite where he was and now no one you don't hear from him at all.

756
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,800
Is he in is he in Europe?

757
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,680
I know he went away.

758
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:40,600
Yeah, but it's like one of the those one of your people's countries.

759
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,160
Oh, he went there.

760
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,400
You went there.

761
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,640
You know, like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, up there somewhere.

762
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,640
I'm Polish.

763
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,640
So so so.

764
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,640
Yeah.

765
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,080
Why do you always wear a Sweden jersey then?

766
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,080
This is not a Sweden jersey.

767
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,520
This is my college hockey jersey.

768
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,800
No, not that you have a Swedish jersey.

769
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,320
No, actually, I don't anymore.

770
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:11,920
I gave that I gave that to I gave that years ago to Molly Wagner.

771
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,240
Yeah, cool.

772
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:20,280
But and in return, she gave me as a thank you for that.

773
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:31,720
It wasn't a trade, but she gave me the original ECS tap handle from Big Al's Brewery.

774
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:35,160
So like the the original ECS beer.

775
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,760
So I actually have a collection over here of a whole bunch of the original tap handle

776
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,260
from Gorilla FC from Big Al's Brewery right behind me in this closet back here.

777
00:50:44,260 --> 00:50:45,260
See, there we go.

778
00:50:45,260 --> 00:50:53,520
Yeah, I've got I've got I've got three of the foosball ECS tap handles and ones on my

779
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,040
kegerator right now.

780
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:02,240
One is promised to our colleague in the Alliance Council Carmen Hall.

781
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:08,800
And one is well, that's kind of my backup in case I ever want to give it away as a prize

782
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,360
or, you know, just just have it just to have it.

783
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,840
Yep, for sure.

784
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,840
All right.

785
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,240
So let's let's talk this match on Saturday.

786
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:24,000
Your Seattle Sounders played against the Clit and tied two to two in a match that was the

787
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:30,200
fourth time in five times where the Sounders since the beginning of the twenty twenty four

788
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:36,120
season where the Sounders have led by one with 80 minutes left in the match and did

789
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,880
not win the game four times out of all five.

790
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,840
So five times in this time now all last season, the first game this year, did they lead after

791
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,080
the 80th minute?

792
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,740
Only four of them did they walk away with three points.

793
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:53,740
That's pretty well.

794
00:51:53,740 --> 00:51:56,200
That's wait, Reifers.

795
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,120
So you're saying we've only led in the 80th minute five times.

796
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,460
No, no, no.

797
00:52:01,460 --> 00:52:02,460
By one goal.

798
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:04,040
But one goal.

799
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,040
OK, at Lumen Field since the beginning of the twenty twenty four season, the Sounders

800
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,240
have led by one goal in the 80th minute five times and four of them, they've only they

801
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,320
have not they've given up at least a goal.

802
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,320
I don't know.

803
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,240
I don't know if we lost in those matches, but I guarantee you we only got three points

804
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:22,240
in one.

805
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:27,360
OK, so it seems like there might be a little problem going on with Sounders defense late

806
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,360
in matches.

807
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:33,480
I mean, first off, that's some that that's some mental.

808
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,400
I get the point that it's trying.

809
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,840
I get the point it's trying to make.

810
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,840
I get it.

811
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:43,640
I mean, it's 80 percent of the time when you're only up by a goal, you're not winning.

812
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:50,000
Yeah, I mean, I get it.

813
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:56,040
But just keep in mind that in those scenarios, that's like that's like it's like the onside

814
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,840
kick scenario where the teams are desperation and they're you know, there's going to be

815
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,280
a higher chance of scoring because of that desperation as a one goal game.

816
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,740
So it seems are not losing or giving that up an 80 percent clip.

817
00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:13,280
And also, I we are now I want to go.

818
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,280
I would be surprised.

819
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,760
Most teams can close out.

820
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Not not not this weekend, apparently.

821
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,620
But but generally teams can close out.

822
00:53:21,620 --> 00:53:22,740
The Sounders cannot.

823
00:53:22,740 --> 00:53:24,680
And that's the problem.

824
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,280
I I will say this.

825
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:35,180
I am not overly concerned about.

826
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:42,840
The end of that game because I do look at the whole second half of that game and we

827
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,220
had a lot of chances.

828
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:50,240
We're also going up against the goalkeeper of the year who, you know, makes it seems.

829
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:55,600
Yeah, but but easily should have had had another three or four goals despite this.

830
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,600
This is this is true.

831
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,440
Which is another reason why it feels like last year to me.

832
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,040
Brian Schmitzer said in his post game press conference that the way you deal with giving

833
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,080
up those late goes is through coaching.

834
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Well, you didn't do it last year.

835
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,800
So when are you going to start coaching them not to do it?

836
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,800
That's what I want to know.

837
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,880
We're one point above the z-line right now.

838
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,880
One point.

839
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,120
OK, like that just one game into the season.

840
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,120
We are going to stop.

841
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,120
I know.

842
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,120
Honestly, honestly.

843
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,120
Wait, I don't even want to.

844
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,120
I don't even want to.

845
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,280
I'm going to shut down that conversation right now.

846
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,880
I mean, that part is fine.

847
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,320
But to me, because the reality is.

848
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,920
I have a short.

849
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,920
Well, I get that.

850
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,920
The problem is, the problem is when you set that up over this result and I don't see a

851
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,760
I thought we played exciting attacking soccer.

852
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,760
I was very winning.

853
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,760
I was.

854
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,480
I I get that.

855
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,560
But what I'm saying is now you set up with all the Ziggy line.

856
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,560
Well, let's be honest.

857
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,600
But I do.

858
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,520
If he can't figure it out, I want him gone.

859
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,680
We've already done this twice before.

860
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,840
If by the World Cup, we're still doing this, he's got to be gone.

861
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,000
We need a new coach, a world class coach.

862
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,120
All tomatoes one game into the season.

863
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,440
I know this is me being the voice of.

864
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,440
Yeah.

865
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,520
If this hadn't been the exact same thing we'd seen all last year, this would be a different

866
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,520
thing for me.

867
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,960
This is the same problem.

868
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,960
I don't.

869
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,320
That's why I'm coming.

870
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,320
I just.

871
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,440
I mean, problem.

872
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,440
I disagree.

873
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,760
It's the exact same problem.

874
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,040
I do.

875
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,400
I completely disagree.

876
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,400
That's the exact same problem.

877
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,520
We're going up against a very good.

878
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,040
I do believe Charlotte's going to end up finishing in the top four in the East.

879
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,680
I'm going up against a very good Charlotte team.

880
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,480
Very hard goalie to score against.

881
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,720
And I thought offensively, we looked really good, really dangerous.

882
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:48,560
Now it's one thing is if we eke out two goals, look uninspiring and this happens.

883
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,720
I think that's a little different.

884
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:56,680
I'm not dismissing.

885
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,400
Bad subs, late subs were the problem here.

886
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,360
You put on people so late that they didn't have time to get into the run of play.

887
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,320
Granted, the two people that made the mistakes at the end had been in there, but the people

888
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,840
around them couldn't recover.

889
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,880
Why even put some of those players on if they're only going to play six minutes?

890
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:19,480
I mean, 11 with the injury time, but I just, I didn't understand that some of the subs,

891
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,380
I didn't understand the way they went.

892
00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:28,160
And I think continuously we've seen Schmetzer do late subs and bad subs and it's just continued.

893
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,760
And if that's going to be our weakness, we need to score more than two goals.

894
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,020
Scoring two goals should be enough for the Sounders.

895
00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:37,040
That's where I'm at with it.

896
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,740
To me, this is the same old shit as last year.

897
00:56:39,740 --> 00:56:41,160
Am I impressed with Jordan Morris?

898
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:46,160
Yes, it's one game, but from what we just saw, he's proving he's that DP.

899
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,840
He's proving that he is who we said he had to be.

900
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,640
You were right.

901
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,680
Rusnack continues to be incredible.

902
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:01,840
Can I go on my You Were Right tour with the Georgie, the variety of Georgie beating people?

903
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,120
He's a real one team.

904
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,880
Even after the game, people were saying he was a one note player, which I was blown away

905
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,400
by because no, yes, do it.

906
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,400
Do it.

907
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,760
Go on your go on your victory tour right now.

908
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,960
All right, here we go.

909
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:20,120
I have been saying people over here and I know why they're doing it.

910
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,920
They're doing it because they see him come up off that wing, get to the end line and

911
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:30,440
make a move because he keeps getting by people and he's doing it in different ways.

912
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,960
Sometimes he's watching him cut back inside and because they're trying to cut off that

913
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,960
touch line.

914
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,400
Then he's throwing that pass in just before he's doing it in so many different ways.

915
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,480
It's really, really entertaining to watch.

916
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,480
Having a blast.

917
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,360
I was having a blast watching him.

918
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:54,520
I mean, he had one assist in the game, but it felt like his impact was much greater.

919
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:59,360
You know who else I really, really liked watching it because I was right in the front of ECS

920
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,400
right in that the right side.

921
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:11,840
So the front of 121 was really enjoying watching Paul Arreola with the pace of his crosses,

922
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,520
watching the way those crosses were coming on.

923
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:20,120
They're coming on with pace and at a beautiful level where those are the kind of ones that

924
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,120
are really tough to defend against.

925
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,920
It starts the way he receives the ball.

926
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,680
Oh yeah, there were some.

927
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,760
The way he receives it is incredible.

928
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,320
He can grab it with his foot and move it before he even starts running and he knows what direction

929
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,200
the other player is going.

930
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,400
This dude is going to kill for the Sounders.

931
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,080
It's awesome.

932
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,560
And what's crazy is he's not a locked in starter.

933
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,560
And that's just because I'm so excited.

934
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:52,560
I really am.

935
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,440
I saw a lot to feel excited about this team.

936
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,680
I do want to caution people.

937
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:07,360
I do expect us to kick the shit out of Antigua tomorrow or Wednesday.

938
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,200
I was surprised at some of the substitutions we made to start the match.

939
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:16,080
There's players that we changed considering I thought maybe we would play more backups

940
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:21,520
against Antigua because we don't need the same kind of result against them that maybe

941
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,520
we needed in MLS.

942
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,400
I thought we would have seen a little flip there, but maybe they're thinking more lines

943
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,160
of RSL is going to be harder.

944
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:33,800
That's exactly it because we have not won in RSL since 2012.

945
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:41,080
And this happens, it feels anecdotally like this happens all the fucking time where we

946
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:46,560
end up playing RSL in a midweek game on short rest.

947
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,720
We never get to have our full strength RSL, which is part of the reason why we haven't

948
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,440
won in RSL since 2012.

949
00:59:53,440 --> 01:00:00,360
But we always have some weird situation where we make the business decision where we go,

950
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,480
well, we're not going to put our full starters in at 6,000 plus feet altitude on short rest

951
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,560
and it's just not going to happen.

952
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,560
I'm sick of that.

953
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,520
Thankfully they're on short rest as well because they're playing Haradiano at home.

954
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:19,680
Unfortunately at that home, it would have been really nice if they had to travel.

955
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:26,840
I will ask you that was that match the one where Manny Martinez hit the game winner in

956
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,080
the playoffs or was that earlier?

957
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,080
The win there because remember we beat them one nothing in the playoffs and it was like

958
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,360
the one thing that Manny did for us.

959
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,720
No you're thinking of Mario.

960
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:40,720
Oh sorry, yes.

961
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,720
I'm like, why did that not work?

962
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,720
Yeah.

963
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,520
I know what you're talking about.

964
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,520
Not entirely sure.

965
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,680
Not entirely sure.

966
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,840
I would be lying.

967
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,680
I remember a lot and I soak up a lot of stuff.

968
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,680
That's not what I remember.

969
01:00:54,680 --> 01:01:04,000
By the way, that Haradiano game is going to be really tough for RSL because it's currently

970
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,160
aggregate of 0-0.

971
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,800
So a tie, Haradiano wins because of the way goals.

972
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,760
Only if they score as low as they can.

973
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,080
I'm assuming it's not going to be another 0-0 tie.

974
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,080
But any tie that's 0-0.

975
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,880
I mean if you're RSL you're happy going home though.

976
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:30,840
If it is a 0-0 tie that's 90 or 30 more minutes of soccer and that bodes well for us as well.

977
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,240
Yeah absolutely.

978
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:38,960
I would be excited to see that go long for sure.

979
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:45,840
Maybe I'll put that game on before the Sounders game because that starts at 530.

980
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,960
Mario Martinez was on that roster so that might have been the match.

981
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,280
He had that one banger.

982
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,880
He only scored three goals for us.

983
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,440
That was the one that we remember.

984
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,520
It's kind of like who's that handsome guy in the team?

985
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Valdes.

986
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,520
Yes.

987
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,520
Nelson Valdes.

988
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:12,520
Who helped us get to our MLS Cup in 2016.

989
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:22,720
So I was very impressed by a lot of things.

990
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,760
Little less impressed by some others.

991
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:34,040
For example, that first goal from Charlotte.

992
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:39,240
It looked like Fry wanted to come out and started to come out and then took a step back.

993
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:45,200
It just looked like some preseason decision.

994
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,000
Even that, we played a high line.

995
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:56,320
It got exploited in such a poor defensive way that it left Nuhu on an island.

996
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,200
It wasn't fair to Nuhu but then Nuhu made the complete wrong choice out of any choice

997
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,200
he could have made.

998
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,080
He read the worst one and just flailed at the opponent nowhere near him when it was

999
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,080
too late.

1000
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,120
I think there were mistakes all around on that from our left back, from our right back,

1001
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,440
from our center backs probably, from our goalie.

1002
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,440
It was rough.

1003
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,600
I was bummed.

1004
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,400
I was bummed because that felt like it was against the run of play.

1005
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,720
What did you think of Alex Roldon though?

1006
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,600
I thought he had a pretty good name.

1007
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,600
Excuse me.

1008
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,320
I just went back to Antigua in my head.

1009
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,320
Was that the head of the game?

1010
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,320
No, that was Yemar.

1011
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,320
Yeah, that was Yemar.

1012
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,080
Yemar didn't cover his hand on that run.

1013
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,920
Later Nuhu didn't but it didn't affect anything.

1014
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,040
Nuhu had a super solid game overall.

1015
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:51,760
The first minute red card.

1016
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,200
I was worried that maybe they should take him out.

1017
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,480
But yes, Yemar, excuse me, did not.

1018
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,400
I even saw it on the wrong side of my head.

1019
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,440
On that header, yeah, Yemar didn't cover his man.

1020
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:06,040
It was a very un-Yemar-like day because he also then got the own goal later.

1021
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,800
I mean, hopefully.

1022
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,560
Well, with that own goal, very unfortunate.

1023
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:16,760
But that is the exact kind of ball you want to throw into the box if you're a Charlotte

1024
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:22,480
where Yemar has to try and stop that.

1025
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:23,480
Yeah.

1026
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:30,360
And by the way, it was the playoff game where Mario Martinez scored was the last time we

1027
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,360
won down there in 2012.

1028
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,360
We won nothing.

1029
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:37,320
Jesus, that was so long ago.

1030
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,600
And you want to hear the worst stat about the 2-2 loss?

1031
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,200
Well, you know what?

1032
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,200
Freud.

1033
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,200
It felt like a loss.

1034
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,720
The 2-2 loss.

1035
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:53,040
Sounders had 18 shots, 7 shots on target.

1036
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:57,000
Charlotte had 7 shots, 1 shot on target.

1037
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,680
And yet they got 2 goals.

1038
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:07,000
I mean, even their goal, and I don't actually blame the Sounders for this initially.

1039
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,240
It was against the run of play, their first goal.

1040
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,360
The Sounders were dominating.

1041
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,960
I do think there was a few bad referee calls early on.

1042
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,480
They didn't lead directly to the goal.

1043
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:22,600
So they were not involved in the goal itself, but they kept killing the Sounders' momentum

1044
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:27,960
in a way that prevented the Sounders from continuing to dominate the run of play completely

1045
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,160
and allowed, I mean, it was just a bad foul call.

1046
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,560
It wasn't a foul.

1047
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,840
And they put it the other way.

1048
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,440
And your Canadian brethren there in the goal pulled some bullshit.

1049
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:43,880
I mean, in the ref, he was a ref in the center circle, pulled some bullshit and kept calling

1050
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:44,880
fouls on us.

1051
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,360
The second half was a much better, I wonder if he got talked to at halftime or something.

1052
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,240
Second half, much better ref game.

1053
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,600
First half was insane.

1054
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,120
I did not know what was going on.

1055
01:05:54,120 --> 01:06:00,920
Maybe even just preseason jitters for everyone, just kind of chalk it up to.

1056
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,720
You know, the other thing that was really weird is, you saw, well, no, I was going to

1057
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,920
say you saw around the league a number of red cards.

1058
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,640
But no, I'm not going to open that can of worms of maybe there was something going on

1059
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:20,380
with MLS, MLS, or I'm sorry, pro referees wanting to emphasize certain things.

1060
01:06:20,380 --> 01:06:23,520
But no, because those reds were very much reds.

1061
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,000
You know, it wasn't like there was the one the one that people are arguing.

1062
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,560
They're arguing a foul rather than the wrong foul.

1063
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,840
They're arguing the one in the box rather than dog.

1064
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,040
So so yeah, yeah.

1065
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:40,340
So it's just me talking out realizing, no, it's not that.

1066
01:06:40,340 --> 01:06:43,240
So I mean, it just it seemed it wasn't as egregious.

1067
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,600
Well, I think it was more egregious than some we saw last year where people were up in arms

1068
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,600
and booed.

1069
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:54,120
I think the second half calmed some people down because like I didn't think it was the

1070
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:59,040
it was specifically the right winger, the right mid for Charlotte kept pretending like

1071
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,920
he was getting knocked down and they kept they gave us two cards for it and they didn't

1072
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,920
give us a card on three or four other fouls where he was knocked down that way.

1073
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,880
And in the second half, the ref was like, uh, let him go.

1074
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,700
Even on somewhere, I think the Sounders maybe did commit a foul.

1075
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:16,480
So I'm wondering if someone got in his ear in half time said, you're screwing this up.

1076
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,880
And then he got too cautious the other way.

1077
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,000
Yeah, I I don't know.

1078
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,000
I don't know.

1079
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:32,760
But I do know that we were just we were just attacking at a really beautiful clip as far

1080
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:40,400
as like the stats reflect that, you know, 13 shots inside the box.

1081
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:48,200
41 touches in the opponent's box versus Charlotte's 12, you know, 41 touches.

1082
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,080
We're touching the ball 41 times in the box.

1083
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,600
I wonder how many of those were Georgie.

1084
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,000
Just a lot of them were going to be Arreola, some are Russnack too.

1085
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,720
I mean, we've seen time and time again, cycling through the box over.

1086
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,160
I mean, all the players, it was impressive.

1087
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,480
And I mean, Obed should have scored.

1088
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:06,480
Yeah.

1089
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,480
Five saves.

1090
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,560
Or Jordan almost scored another time.

1091
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:11,560
Yeah.

1092
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,560
And I would say probably at least three of those saves were great saves that should have

1093
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:16,560
gone in.

1094
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,200
And then the other two were ones that the Sounders made four shots on when they should

1095
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,880
have put in a better place.

1096
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:31,040
But hey, if we keep if we keep attacking like this, you know, or in this vein throughout

1097
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,960
the season, good things are going to happen.

1098
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:33,960
I hope so.

1099
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,280
We've seen it in the past, though.

1100
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,880
I can't remember how many one goal games where we had 18 shots.

1101
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,520
It's been a lot.

1102
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,240
I think we have more talent this year, though, so that shouldn't be the case.

1103
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:48,360
We have a lot more talent on the attacking end.

1104
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,360
Yeah.

1105
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,360
Yeah.

1106
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:58,880
So what was your favorite thing that you saw on matchday?

1107
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:05,560
I mean, the ECS Tifa was pretty sweet.

1108
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,800
I know you couldn't see it because you were under it.

1109
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,800
I did.

1110
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:10,960
I did enjoy it.

1111
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,400
You know, it's never going to live up to what was it, LA Galaxy, they made the one for the

1112
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,720
firefighters.

1113
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,720
That was super cool.

1114
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,280
Obviously, we're not going to make one for LA firefighters.

1115
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,280
But I just want to give a shout out to that.

1116
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,280
Like that's awesome.

1117
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,280
Like I feel like it was LAFC, actually.

1118
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:32,720
I'm pretty sure because I think Galaxy were doing championship rings on opening night

1119
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,960
and they weren't doing the fire.

1120
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,080
They should have done the fire because that's incredible.

1121
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,080
Good for them.

1122
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,840
But yeah, I was a big fan of it.

1123
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,760
You know, a lot of work went into that.

1124
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,760
I did not.

1125
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,920
I can tell you what I didn't like.

1126
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:58,240
When Arreola came on and then we were told, I mean, it was a little bit of a different

1127
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,360
announcement, which I didn't like, but that's me personally.

1128
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,080
But then we have to say his name when he comes on.

1129
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,240
And that's going to be a regular thing this year at matches.

1130
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,880
I don't like it because sure, we do it pre-match, but during the match, that's usually reserved

1131
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,960
for when people score goals.

1132
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,720
I get why because we do it before the match for players that are on.

1133
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:23,000
So for me, maybe this is what I told when he asked about it, when Mr.

1134
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,000
James.

1135
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:29,440
Yeah, I ran into him at the pro shop at the end of the game and we had a moment.

1136
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:35,400
When he asked about it, I said, you know, I don't like it for the reasons I just explained,

1137
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,400
but you know what?

1138
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,400
Not everything's for me.

1139
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,280
So maybe it's not a big deal.

1140
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,520
I'm not going to be annoyed or whatever, do whatever we want.

1141
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:43,640
I just won't partake in it.

1142
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,520
One person not chanting doesn't matter to me.

1143
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:52,400
So I just, to me, it takes away the sacredness of what happens when we score a goal.

1144
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,000
You know what I don't know if I liked yet?

1145
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,080
Those green spirit fingers on corners.

1146
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,600
It was kind of kind of a little weird.

1147
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,720
I didn't see there were spirit fingers.

1148
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,960
They're like slimy, like these little like, like, watch my watch my camera.

1149
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:13,880
It was these fingers came up like this and were like, like, but they're like these green

1150
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,040
real people's fingers or were they like, no, it was like a green.

1151
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,440
It was a weird graphic.

1152
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:20,440
It was weird.

1153
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:26,040
Are you sure you want the Columbus match seeing goosebumps?

1154
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,480
I don't believe I was taking LSD or acid.

1155
01:11:29,480 --> 01:11:33,160
I don't believe but no, it was a little weird, a little weird.

1156
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,160
Yeah, that is odd.

1157
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,520
I did not see that.

1158
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,640
But usually I'm not looking at the screen.

1159
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:38,720
I'm looking at the corner.

1160
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:43,360
So and you're directly across the screen so you can see it easily.

1161
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,680
You know what I did like seeing?

1162
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:52,560
I did like seeing Jordan Morris tie Raul Rodriguez for most goals scored and sounder history.

1163
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:59,280
I mean, yeah, just just nuts from from Academy to.

1164
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:05,520
Yeah, I mean, you're going to Germany just crazy.

1165
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,200
Just it's really impressive.

1166
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:12,560
Yeah, I mean, he's he's going in the pride he took in tying it, putting his hands up

1167
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,560
in the air.

1168
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:14,560
It was incredible.

1169
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:19,000
And you can tell you can tell he listens to the show and is like, fuck you guys, I'm going

1170
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,000
to score.

1171
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,240
I mean, not Nick, but everyone else.

1172
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,240
Fuck you guys.

1173
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,240
I'm going to score.

1174
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,520
Nick knows what's going on.

1175
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,720
And he did it.

1176
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:27,720
And you know what?

1177
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:36,240
We had a question come in about that, which was to do to do.

1178
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:40,480
Does JMo become the Sounders all time leading scorer at RSL next Saturday?

1179
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,880
This is not MLS, it's all competitions, I'm going to say he becomes the all time leading

1180
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,440
scorer on Wednesday against Antigua.

1181
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:50,160
If he plays, he might come off the bench, he might not.

1182
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,160
He may not.

1183
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,320
This may be a break for him having played in the first two games.

1184
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:59,620
Do you think Danny Mussovsky is enough to get us some goals?

1185
01:12:59,620 --> 01:13:00,620
You know what?

1186
01:13:00,620 --> 01:13:05,200
That would be great to see him just get off the Schneid and just get some confidence.

1187
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:06,200
This could be a great.

1188
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:12,480
Yeah, and he scored at San Jose last year, but I think he was on the wing for that match,

1189
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:16,200
not as a forward, but still, we know he can score.

1190
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,400
He's done it for other MLS teams.

1191
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:24,120
So it's just frustrating that he hasn't been able to do it for us.

1192
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,120
Yeah.

1193
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:31,760
We'll talk about that at the end of the show here.

1194
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,240
But let's finish up on this Charlotte match.

1195
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,080
Was there anything else that you were a big fan of that you saw?

1196
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,920
I mean, I liked for me, Paul Ariola's play.

1197
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,240
It continues to be a revelation.

1198
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:48,920
I knew he was good, but like I said, Rusnak, his pass to Jordan was truly incredible.

1199
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,000
It's what we expect from him, but it was world class.

1200
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,760
You see why they sign him as a DP despite his age, because if you can make passes like

1201
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,080
that, we're going to score so many goals this year.

1202
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,080
Yeah.

1203
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:11,920
I mean, I think it's a little filthy and a little bit unfair, but that's the advantage

1204
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:12,920
we get.

1205
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,120
I mean, you don't see it.

1206
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,760
There's not a lot of teams that have that ability in the MLS.

1207
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:24,000
I mean, it's the top three or four teams from each conference that have a player that can

1208
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,560
do that.

1209
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,560
Yeah.

1210
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,560
Yeah.

1211
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,960
At least for now.

1212
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,400
Let's see, other thing that I liked Obed.

1213
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:44,200
Obed, by the way, was named for the upcoming Nations League for Mexico, was named to their

1214
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,560
60-man roster.

1215
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,640
So he's eligible to play in Nations League.

1216
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:55,840
Will he be selected to the final 28, whatever it is?

1217
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:02,040
I think if he's healthy, there's a very, very good chance he is.

1218
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:08,040
He's just playing at such a different level as many other players right now in that position.

1219
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,040
Yeah.

1220
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,920
It's just such a bummer that...

1221
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,440
Who's the Chicago coach?

1222
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:16,440
What's his name?

1223
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:17,720
Burr Halter.

1224
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,160
Burr Halter mismanaged that whole thing so badly that he switched to Mexico because he

1225
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,000
could have been back there with Tyler Adams on...

1226
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,760
I mean, Tyler Adams plays three different positions for the US, but he could have been

1227
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:36,240
incredible for the USA and they weren't willing to give him serious consideration.

1228
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,240
You know what?

1229
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,040
Let me be honest.

1230
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,680
I'm okay with this.

1231
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:50,840
I'm okay with this because one, I am exhausted sometimes when it comes to a certain side

1232
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:59,400
of the US national team fans who basically will criticize anyone who's in MLS.

1233
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,960
And you know what?

1234
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,440
Just let him have his joy with his family.

1235
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:08,680
His dad is a huge Mexico supporter.

1236
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,680
Let him have this.

1237
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:18,640
And honestly, it might be the best path for him to make the World Cup roster.

1238
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:25,000
Yeah, I think that with two years, that's probably true.

1239
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:30,160
But I do think that it would be like...

1240
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:37,760
To me, it's like Jordan Morris being like, I'm going to go finish my career in Portland.

1241
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,880
That's what it feels like to me.

1242
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,120
You're going to our biggest possible rival.

1243
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,120
Now, Jordan doesn't have the allegiance to Portland that same way.

1244
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:49,880
I know, but that's what it feels like as a Sounders fan, as a US national team fan.

1245
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,520
Yeah, I'm not going to...

1246
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,920
There's no team that plays dirtier than I've seen than them.

1247
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,240
There's no fan base that sucks more than their fan base.

1248
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,660
A bunch of homophobic pricks.

1249
01:17:04,660 --> 01:17:10,440
Not their entire fan base, the ones in the stadium, we should say.

1250
01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:14,760
It's really frustrating to me that now I have to watch games of theirs if I want to see

1251
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:15,760
them play.

1252
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,080
It's like I never want to see another Yankees or Red Sox game ever again.

1253
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,080
It's the same shit.

1254
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,560
I never want to see Mexico play ever again.

1255
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,760
I don't care.

1256
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:25,760
That's fair.

1257
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:26,760
That's fair.

1258
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:32,720
I do have a big problem with the chant, but hey, that's neither here nor there right now.

1259
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,320
What do we got in the mailbag that relates to...

1260
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:40,880
We have some mailbag stuff that is a little bit related to the Sounders game.

1261
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:50,160
The cedar, Jordan's first goal, the cross from Georgie, possibly the most Jordan Morris-esque

1262
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,720
goal he's ever scored.

1263
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:59,000
He kind of gets it in his legs and kind of deflects it in.

1264
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,880
I'm going to say no personally.

1265
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:06,920
When I think of a Jordan Morris-esque goal, I kind of think about Jordan run right by

1266
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:12,640
him and just using his speed to burn someone.

1267
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,240
Yeah, I think it depends on which Jordan Morris we're talking about, 1.0 or 2.0.

1268
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:23,200
The new Jordan Morris, I view it as the goal from last year where he kind of bodied a defender

1269
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,240
off of him who was pulling on him and the ball fell behind him and he pulled it forward

1270
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,120
with his foot.

1271
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,920
That was incredible.

1272
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:38,760
I think it's a goal that we've seen him miss a lot in the past and he wasn't going to miss

1273
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,640
this time.

1274
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,860
This was an announcement from Jordan, I am here.

1275
01:18:44,860 --> 01:18:49,080
I'm going to score goals, get used to it.

1276
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:54,520
So I got two Georgie-related questions.

1277
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,080
Cran my man or Cran me man, not sure which one.

1278
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,920
I'm going to go with Cran my man.

1279
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:06,920
Cran my man, if Georgie continues progressing at the rate he is and stays healthy, what

1280
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,840
kind of future do you think he holds?

1281
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:14,800
Save the Sounders, become a club legend, go to Europe, another MLS team like Miami or

1282
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,040
Atlanta, offer a bag and swoop in from us.

1283
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:24,400
Well, first I'll say Miami or Atlanta, probably not just because I think if an MLS team is

1284
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,960
going to swoop in from us, it is going to be someone that does a bad job of developing

1285
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:41,280
their own talent and also is going to play it cheap and not go export or import talent.

1286
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:50,920
So like a Colorado, like a Houston, a Dallas, someone like that.

1287
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:56,620
But he is from the Ivory Coast, so I think that means he's got ties to France.

1288
01:19:56,620 --> 01:19:57,620
Is that correct?

1289
01:19:57,620 --> 01:19:58,620
Ivory Coast, France.

1290
01:19:58,620 --> 01:19:59,620
Not people like that.

1291
01:19:59,620 --> 01:20:00,620
Not people like that.

1292
01:20:00,620 --> 01:20:01,620
Okay.

1293
01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:07,640
Well, no, no, no, but like he can go play in France is what I'm getting at.

1294
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:13,320
I think there's something about being Ivory Coast that makes...

1295
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:17,280
Anyways, so who knows?

1296
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:24,680
I would love to find out that answer by seeing Georgie succeed.

1297
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,920
We saw his number, I mean, for playing in Europe that is a little older.

1298
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,080
Like by the time you're 23, you're usually over in Europe.

1299
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,320
That was one of the knocks on Jordan going there so late.

1300
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,000
But he had the chance with...

1301
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,240
Oh, with Swansea you're talking about.

1302
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,520
With Swansea, yeah.

1303
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:49,640
But here's the thing is honestly, because he is usually going to be second in that position,

1304
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:56,080
I don't think he's going to get enough chances this season to become a regular starter unless

1305
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,840
he pulls a Rothrock, which is absolutely possible.

1306
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,820
But even then, I don't think Rothrock's starting regularly this season because of upgrades

1307
01:21:01,820 --> 01:21:03,180
we've done.

1308
01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:07,940
And so he will get a bunch of starts, no doubt, because of how many competitions we play in.

1309
01:21:07,940 --> 01:21:14,740
But I just think that he's not going to become a club legend if he wants to become a superstar.

1310
01:21:14,740 --> 01:21:20,640
If he wants to stay with us and keep growing and do it slowly and realizes this is where

1311
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,680
he wants to be, yeah, he will.

1312
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:28,400
But if he wants to succeed, eventually he'll go to another team like you mentioned and

1313
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,480
we'll show how good he can be.

1314
01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:36,040
Like we did for Atencio, we'll keep a sell-on clause and then make money from when he goes

1315
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:40,880
to Europe somewhere after that, which I don't think he'll go to a big league there.

1316
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,080
But you know, France is interesting.

1317
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,840
I mean, France, a Netherlands, a Norway.

1318
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,680
But there's more teams.

1319
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:58,520
I mean, Paris now has two teams in France that are going to be the... because Paris,

1320
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:05,280
SC, I think, just made it up into League... it looks like they're going to make it into

1321
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,280
League One next year.

1322
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,400
So there's going to be two Parisian teams.

1323
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,880
And so that's going to start changing the landscape because there's going to be a fact

1324
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,920
that more lower division French teams, if they can get investment, are going to start

1325
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:20,120
buying young upstart players in order to try and get into League One.

1326
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:21,120
Yeah.

1327
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:25,680
I mean, so in the end, let's find out.

1328
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,480
Keep succeeding because he's showing some great talent.

1329
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:32,940
He's showing some great promise.

1330
01:22:32,940 --> 01:22:38,120
And I think he could be one of those players that could open some eyes at the Club World

1331
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,120
Cup.

1332
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,120
For sure.

1333
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:50,920
I'd be very curious to see him pulling a Deandre Jadlin.

1334
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,080
I wonder how much teams worry about his eyesight.

1335
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,680
That's something that he's always going to be a knock on him.

1336
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,760
We obviously see that's not an issue.

1337
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,560
But yeah, it'll be interesting.

1338
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:09,440
I think he could easily be successful in a championship team in some of the lower tier

1339
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:10,440
European leagues.

1340
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:15,040
He could definitely be a top player if he continues to develop at this current rate.

1341
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:20,720
I don't think he is the ceiling that Deandre Jadlin has.

1342
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:25,480
But I don't think he's going to be on the US national team or the Ivory Coast national

1343
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:26,480
team.

1344
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:29,000
That being said.

1345
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,320
But let's find out.

1346
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,800
He could be successful.

1347
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:32,800
Yeah.

1348
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,880
I mean, Ivory Coast is a little down right now compared to where they used to be.

1349
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,280
They're no longer in the greatest generation.

1350
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,040
No.

1351
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:45,160
Dan the Bastard, will I ever get to see Pedro and Georgie on the pitch at the same time?

1352
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:51,280
Or did Brian see them like a like for like swap?

1353
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:52,840
I think we will just not right now.

1354
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,440
I mean, I think we have too many other players vying for minutes.

1355
01:23:56,440 --> 01:23:59,520
I think you're going to see Ferrera come on.

1356
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,320
You're going to see with Pedro.

1357
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,760
Right now they're the perfect sub.

1358
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,620
But yeah, we know that Pedro can play on the left.

1359
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:10,960
We know he can play center attacking mid.

1360
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,920
But they like him to play on the right traditionally, although during the prezes and he was all

1361
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,920
over the field.

1362
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:22,600
What was interesting is the weather was not conducive to Pedro starting too.

1363
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,920
So I was not surprised he didn't play.

1364
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:30,800
I was a little surprised the Albert play, but I guess that means that his knock was

1365
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,040
much cleared up.

1366
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,040
Yeah.

1367
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,040
Yeah, for sure.

1368
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:46,200
Alex Diaz, I also referencing the first match on us feels like the club is heading in the

1369
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,720
right direction to bring in more fans at an affordable price to home matches.

1370
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,560
What can the front office do to continue heading in the right direction?

1371
01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:12,520
Well, I think I think better keep up the outreach, especially to our diverse populations, get

1372
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:22,440
down to South Seattle, get down to Rainier.

1373
01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:28,920
Get outreach to 26 fields by 26 is one way to do that for sure.

1374
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:34,200
Well, now it's 52 remember, it's I do know that but it's the 26 by 26.

1375
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:39,200
It's just easier to say that because that's the official name of the program.

1376
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:47,300
But with the hiring or the promotion rather, I should say of Ashley Fosberg to I believe

1377
01:25:47,300 --> 01:25:52,400
her new title is director of fan engagement.

1378
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:58,040
That's going to be a big deal for the club, I think, where she I think she's probably

1379
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,720
still lead of the rave foundation.

1380
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:02,720
I don't know for sure.

1381
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,000
No, they don't have an executive director.

1382
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,000
Yeah.

1383
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,000
Okay.

1384
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,000
Okay.

1385
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,000
I wasn't sure about that.

1386
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:14,600
But get seeing what she was doing with rave foundation, I think having a director of fan

1387
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:19,720
engagement is a role that she is very suited for.

1388
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:25,440
So that'll certainly be something that you and I might have to just ask her next time

1389
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:26,440
we run into her.

1390
01:26:26,440 --> 01:26:27,440
I saw yesterday.

1391
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:28,440
Yeah.

1392
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:29,440
Yeah.

1393
01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:31,080
But I mean, here's the thing.

1394
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,000
I think there's it's several things.

1395
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,960
Thing you talked about it last up.

1396
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,480
So things have changed a lot since you took over.

1397
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:42,020
These things have been in the works for several years now.

1398
01:26:42,020 --> 01:26:44,960
They know what's going on.

1399
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:49,680
They are trying to change the fan experience.

1400
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:59,720
I don't think I think the loudest voices that are screaming about the fan experience are

1401
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,640
people that are already fans and the average fan doesn't give a shit about that kind of

1402
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,640
stuff.

1403
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,820
The things that people complain about the average fan doesn't care about.

1404
01:27:08,820 --> 01:27:13,320
They just want to have a good time, have their kids have a good time and see a win.

1405
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:18,320
And I think the Sounders continue to deliver on that and their complaints are small.

1406
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:24,520
The reason there, I mean, there's obviously missteps, but they know that and they're continuing

1407
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:25,520
to try and change that.

1408
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:30,280
And they've completely restructured the Sounders organization internally in order to deal with

1409
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:31,980
some of that stuff.

1410
01:27:31,980 --> 01:27:35,360
So I think that's just going to continue to get better and better.

1411
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:36,800
Yeah.

1412
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:43,960
And for full disclosure on the Sounders Alliance account, on the Sounders Alliance Council,

1413
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:50,720
we have a committee that's devoted specifically to fan engagement.

1414
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:57,920
And as we meet with the Sounders specifically on that topic, we'll probably have some more

1415
01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,180
insights on that.

1416
01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:04,960
We haven't done so yet for this season, but these are things that, you know, keep asking

1417
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:05,960
these questions.

1418
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:11,880
Keep coming up with solutions because that's stuff that myself, Cameron, I know we have

1419
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:17,720
a number of fellow Alliance Council members who listen to this podcast.

1420
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:24,960
Tim Hamilton, you know, we, these are the kind of the Tom Eggerding, you know, I know

1421
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,760
they're they're listeners.

1422
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:31,960
So these are the kind of things that you have ideas, pop them up in here, you know, generally

1423
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:36,780
speaking, if you're listening to this podcast, if you're engaged in discourse, and discourse

1424
01:28:36,780 --> 01:28:45,760
on Discord, you are not always going to be the target audience for a lot of these things.

1425
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:46,760
Yeah.

1426
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:53,280
And but you have a voice that is being listened to.

1427
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,280
And you can help.

1428
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,000
We have a direct line to the office.

1429
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,100
Yeah, you can you can help successfully make an impact.

1430
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:00,620
So we want to hear these things.

1431
01:29:00,620 --> 01:29:03,600
We want to hear these voices.

1432
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:09,480
We are, you know, on the Alliance Council, we're a representational democracy, you know,

1433
01:29:09,480 --> 01:29:15,560
so we take what we're hearing, what we're seeing, we pass that on, we share that we

1434
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:19,280
also add our own personal insights.

1435
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,000
And largely, there's a lot of good that comes from it.

1436
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,640
So please keep asking these questions.

1437
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:30,880
Yeah, I mean, I know you are similar with me on this, Nicholas, but we will bring stuff

1438
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,560
up with the right people at any given time.

1439
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,920
I mean, I'm now on a first name.

1440
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,160
I mean, I guess I have been for a while with Craig, but it was never felt the same as it

1441
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:40,640
was with Garth.

1442
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:46,960
First name basis with Craig, with Hugh Webber, with, you know, pretty much everyone in the

1443
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:51,240
leadership team now, except for the two new people they've hired.

1444
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,840
And I'm not afraid to say, hey, this is an idea that we've been hearing from fans.

1445
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,840
What do you think of this?

1446
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,440
And we saw, you and I saw Peter Tomazawa do that.

1447
01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:04,620
You talked about it last episode where we came to them saying this is what the Washington

1448
01:30:04,620 --> 01:30:06,400
Huskies do with the Husky plan.

1449
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,560
What was that called?

1450
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,560
Husky Pass.

1451
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,200
Husky Pass.

1452
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,640
And they ran with it.

1453
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,560
And that is the reason why today we have the student tickets.

1454
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:25,600
And I think this in a way, there is a level of, you know, everything evolves.

1455
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:34,320
And so I think our voices collectively matter.

1456
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:40,200
But I try to, my own personal thing is I try to not use hyperbole.

1457
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:45,080
I try to try to be reasoned and measured in my responses.

1458
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:49,880
And I know sometimes Mr. Schmitzer out here, Cameron, I know.

1459
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,040
That's what people are talking about on the field, Blake.

1460
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,040
I know.

1461
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:59,360
When it comes to commenting on the Sounders and stuff like this, people are so hyperbolic

1462
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:06,800
and people are so angry that it's like, it's, it's people are, what's, what's the phrase

1463
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:12,240
when you're crying wolf because they treat small things the same as giant things.

1464
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,240
Everything's in emergency.

1465
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,240
Nothing's in emergency.

1466
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:15,240
Correct.

1467
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,120
And so I think that sounded good.

1468
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,640
There is a disconnect in that kind of stuff.

1469
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:27,960
And your voice is not going to be heard the same traditionally when your message is delivered

1470
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:28,960
that way.

1471
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,040
And that's something that's one of the reasons that when I took over as president of the

1472
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,580
Alliance Council, we had to have a lot of conversations with the front office.

1473
01:31:36,580 --> 01:31:41,360
You and I have sat down with the front office and said, this is what you're proposing.

1474
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,620
This is what the fan response is going to be.

1475
01:31:43,620 --> 01:31:47,320
You must have a plan prepared for when people are going to respond this way, whether it's

1476
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:52,840
to other Alliance Council members when we're in leadership, whether it's the general fan.

1477
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,120
This is how people are going to respond.

1478
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:59,680
So if this is the plan you want to go with, whether we agree with it or not, expect this

1479
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,800
kind of response and be ready for it.

1480
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:08,360
And Kimberly, is that who came in last year on the revenue side?

1481
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:13,000
Or she, I know something like that.

1482
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,240
Gosh, I should remember her name.

1483
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,080
I've met her at least three times.

1484
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:24,080
But she, I swiped right on her on Bumble, but she did not swipe right on me.

1485
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:25,800
And muted.

1486
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:33,360
But she straight up said one thing that the stories, one thing that the Sounders have

1487
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:38,400
been poor at at times is storytelling and explaining why things are the way they are

1488
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:39,640
through storytelling.

1489
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:40,640
And then that gets lost.

1490
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:48,800
I mean, we saw the outrage at the Jimi Hendrix jersey from a segment of the fan base until

1491
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,320
they finally learned the story.

1492
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:51,320
And that was different.

1493
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:52,560
That's a completely different situation.

1494
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:58,680
That is people seeing a leak and making assumptions, but there's always things that Sounders can

1495
01:32:58,680 --> 01:32:59,680
do better.

1496
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,840
And it's important that we continue to push them to do better.

1497
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:05,440
Like we talked about the student tickets, obviously we're frustrated that they're only

1498
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:06,440
for college students.

1499
01:33:06,440 --> 01:33:07,440
Obviously there's a limitation.

1500
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:14,480
If you're going to sell them online, how do you prove your student not having an EDU website?

1501
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:19,120
There's ways to do it through, you probably have to pay for it though, where people can

1502
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,640
verify by sharing their schedule or something like that.

1503
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,400
I've had to do it as a professor many times.

1504
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:32,240
And honestly, there may be, the Sounders certainly have the details of how many people are requesting

1505
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,200
the student tickets per game.

1506
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,400
And they may be making the business decision.

1507
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:45,200
So ultimately my advice would be, hey, reserve, take a look at the historical data of people

1508
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,280
that are requesting these student tickets.

1509
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,560
Let's just say it's a hundred people a game.

1510
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,000
Let's just, let's just draw on that number out there.

1511
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:53,000
Okay.

1512
01:33:53,000 --> 01:34:00,600
Then sell 90 of those tickets online and reserve 10 for game day, just for specifically to

1513
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:01,600
hold back.

1514
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,920
So there's at least some assort, allotment of that.

1515
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:08,160
It would be a suggestion that I would maybe have.

1516
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,160
Yeah.

1517
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:13,240
And maybe the problem is, well, how do you let a middle schooler in with tickets if the

1518
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,720
parents can't get tickets at that price and then wouldn't be in the same section?

1519
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,000
It becomes problems there.

1520
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,440
But that's the change in the past.

1521
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:24,800
You know, the student tickets, you had to prove you were a student and you get that

1522
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:25,880
ticket.

1523
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:31,480
But here it's clear they're changing that up because your EDU address can get you six

1524
01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:32,480
tickets.

1525
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:35,600
And the problem is those student tickets, that solves that problem for that.

1526
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:40,600
So my guess is that the box office, oh, there's the kid, but I don't really know.

1527
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:48,240
And so, yeah, we definitely, we have questions about the same thing and we'll be addressing

1528
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:52,400
them with the front office, along with lots of other stuff that I already have inquiries

1529
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:58,520
into for, with Dwayne Nakamura, the Alliance Council President to ask, because he will

1530
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:02,040
have a conversation more rapidly than we will.

1531
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:09,400
So, are we going to see more giveaways this year, like last year, Sammy the Sounder, Bobblehead?

1532
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,640
Well, usually when it comes to Bobbleheads, we get Bobbleheads.

1533
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:17,200
Before the Sammy the Sounder Bobblehead, our last one was the Zach Scott retirement one,

1534
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:23,800
and that would have been 2016 because he retired after MLS Cup.

1535
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,800
And the other one was Kasey Keller?

1536
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,360
Well, before that, Kelsey Keller.

1537
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,600
We also had the Drew Carey.

1538
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,800
Oh, yeah, Drew Carey.

1539
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,120
And I think that's about it.

1540
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,120
We haven't had a lot.

1541
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,760
I do have a Jordan Morris one, but that was from the...

1542
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,480
No, that wasn't a giveaway though.

1543
01:35:41,480 --> 01:35:42,480
Yeah, that was different.

1544
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:43,480
Yeah, correct.

1545
01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:47,960
That was from the National Bobblehead Hall of Fame, and it's him holding the...

1546
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,040
So, should we be told our next one...

1547
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:56,040
I mean, they could.

1548
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:57,040
That was a success.

1549
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,400
They could, but the question is, what would they give?

1550
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,040
Well, it would have to be...

1551
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,440
I mean, an Aussie one would be amazing.

1552
01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:07,200
Bring Aussie back for a day and do an Aussie one.

1553
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:08,640
I mean, bring in a legend.

1554
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,240
That would be fantastic.

1555
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:11,240
Maybe...

1556
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,280
Oh, you know what?

1557
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,320
Oh, I think we're about to say the same thing.

1558
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:17,320
Hall of Fame?

1559
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:18,320
Yeah.

1560
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,320
Yeah.

1561
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:20,320
Let's have a conversation with the Sounders.

1562
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,320
Who makes it in Hall of Fame?

1563
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:22,320
We get Bobbleheads.

1564
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,600
Well, the problem is there may not be enough time to...

1565
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:30,760
Let's find out what the lead time is on producing and let's talk about that.

1566
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:35,600
But yeah, because I have to also remind myself, because this will be the first year that we're

1567
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,760
doing the whole process from start to finish.

1568
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:47,760
So from the time we finalize the voting to the time it's announced and then what kind

1569
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,760
of timeline is that?

1570
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:53,720
We don't even know what the process is going to be because they have not totally developed...

1571
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,880
They didn't use everything we told them to do, which is fine.

1572
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,960
But we got 90% of what we wanted from them in terms of when you and I and Daniel Rhodes

1573
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:02,960
were...

1574
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:03,960
Correct.

1575
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:04,960
And I'm very pleased with that.

1576
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,120
But yeah, that would be a great idea.

1577
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,400
But the other thing is you've set that precedent.

1578
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:13,480
One year you have one Hall of Fame, a circle of legend.

1579
01:37:13,480 --> 01:37:14,480
One year you have five.

1580
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:16,320
You're not going to give away five Bobbleheads.

1581
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,320
The entire 1995 team.

1582
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,800
Well, you know, so I mean, this is just us.

1583
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,160
This is how ideas get formed.

1584
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:28,960
You just kind of you kind of go back and forth like that.

1585
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:36,000
So Alex Diaz, does Jordan Morris hit 100 goals in all competitions this year?

1586
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,560
So he's currently at what 86?

1587
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,680
Yeah, I'm going to say yes, he does.

1588
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,080
Oh, I was thinking 100 on the season.

1589
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,080
I was like, no way, dude.

1590
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:49,080
No way.

1591
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,080
Easy.

1592
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,080
Yeah.

1593
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,840
I mean, that's how I get 100 goals.

1594
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:58,160
I mean, I was like, he's at 86, right?

1595
01:37:58,160 --> 01:37:59,160
Yeah.

1596
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:00,160
Yeah.

1597
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,160
I mean, I think yes.

1598
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,520
If your career 100 in all competition career, I would agree.

1599
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:04,520
Yes.

1600
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:10,880
But if you mean, is he going to get 100 between MLS Club World Cup and Leagues Cup and Concacaf

1601
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:11,880
Champions League?

1602
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:12,880
No, I don't think so.

1603
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:17,000
No, he's talking about he's talking about 100.

1604
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:21,000
Did we have the same ref on Saturday that went viral for the However clip in the St.

1605
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,120
Louis versus Atlanta game?

1606
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,320
No idea.

1607
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:30,280
I can tell you actually, because he was one of the two refs that when I mentioned earlier,

1608
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:35,680
those two pro refs that went on the soccer wise, he was one of the two refs.

1609
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:39,560
I just got to look up the two-check.

1610
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,640
It might have been, might have been.

1611
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:43,640
Maybe I don't know.

1612
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:44,920
I'm full of it.

1613
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:45,920
Was he Canadian?

1614
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:46,920
Did he say a boot?

1615
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:47,920
What are you talking about?

1616
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,440
It was a penalty.

1617
01:38:50,440 --> 01:38:55,040
Did San Diego's win something for us to watch out for and will they be a good squad or was

1618
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,800
it a one-off game because it was an inaugural match?

1619
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,840
Inaugural matches, you get a lot of energy.

1620
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,480
Yeah, but it wasn't at home.

1621
01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:04,480
Wasn't at home.

1622
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:11,920
No, but LAFC in their first season, they were not great and they were playing against us

1623
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,360
and they fought us really hard.

1624
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:15,360
They ended up winning.

1625
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:20,360
Of course, there was some shenanigans in that game, refereeing wise, but hey, who's counting?

1626
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:24,000
But you know what?

1627
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:32,840
I saw enough out of that San Diego team to say, I regret taking the under.

1628
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,320
I think they might be a playoff team.

1629
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,680
They might be a playoff team.

1630
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:40,640
I can say this.

1631
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:43,160
I don't know enough about that team.

1632
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:47,160
The players on the team to me are nobodies from a bunch of MLS squads and I don't know

1633
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:50,360
anything about the players they brought in.

1634
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:54,200
I think if they make the signings they're talking about still, absolutely, they'll be

1635
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:57,080
a playoff squad, but I don't think they're there yet.

1636
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:01,680
And also if RSL is as bad as they looked the other day, if Portland is as bad as they looked

1637
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:08,680
the other day, that kind of allows a San Diego to jump in a little more.

1638
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,120
Would I like them to see them make the playoffs?

1639
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:11,360
Actually, yeah, that'd be fun.

1640
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,760
Imagine getting to fly to San Diego in October to enjoy a playoff.

1641
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:16,960
Oh, they play here.

1642
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,880
But regardless, if we did home and away, are we home and away in any of those games yet?

1643
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,000
Yeah, we are.

1644
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,000
After the first round.

1645
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,000
So yeah, I would love that.

1646
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:30,400
Well, the thing is though, I mean, they got Chuckie Lozano from Mexico.

1647
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:34,440
They got Luca de la Torre is their center mid.

1648
01:40:34,440 --> 01:40:43,480
So yeah, but this Anders Dreier from Denmark.

1649
01:40:43,480 --> 01:40:47,960
That could be quite the surprise.

1650
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,960
That could be quite the surprise.

1651
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:56,560
Oh, did you watch that Portland Vancouver game, the absolute drubbing?

1652
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,120
No, I was you.

1653
01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,240
You were keeping me updated.

1654
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:02,760
I was at SuperHawks training camp.

1655
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:09,040
I was having to live stream because the assistant GM plays for a team in Mexico right now.

1656
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:13,560
So I was having to turn the camera left and right every second for three hours.

1657
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,720
So I did not see it.

1658
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:19,280
But I was surprised Portland scored at the end.

1659
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:23,620
Yeah, was it was do you think here's my question for you about that match?

1660
01:41:23,620 --> 01:41:27,800
Was Portland as bad as the score or was it that they were down a man and so they were

1661
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,000
chasing the game the whole time?

1662
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,000
Yes.

1663
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:37,880
I mean, you know, I was Vancouver as good as they the score says or did they was it

1664
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:43,400
just because they were up a man that let them exploit the poor defense of the Timbers.

1665
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:44,720
There is a little bit of that.

1666
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:50,240
The second goal was crazy, though, because Portland was asking for a handball on the

1667
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,040
box.

1668
01:41:52,040 --> 01:42:05,480
And before anything could happen on the counter, dude did like just a 80 yard run by and just

1669
01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:14,080
makes a beautiful pass lays off to to to give it an easy tap in.

1670
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:18,500
And one of my favorite soccer celebrations I've seen in a long time.

1671
01:42:18,500 --> 01:42:21,340
The two of them basically were on the end line.

1672
01:42:21,340 --> 01:42:26,940
And he just kind of does like a roundhouse kick to his face and he goes down.

1673
01:42:26,940 --> 01:42:30,480
But like, you know, but they're, you know, they're a good foot away.

1674
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:33,200
But it was just like, wait, did he just do that?

1675
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,480
It was it watched the highlights on that one.

1676
01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:37,480
It was entertaining.

1677
01:42:37,480 --> 01:42:41,960
But but here's the crazy thing.

1678
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:45,840
Vancouver put up a four spot.

1679
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:51,960
And they put up a four spot and Brian White had no goals, no assists.

1680
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,360
Ryan Gold just had one goal.

1681
01:42:55,360 --> 01:43:01,700
You know, their their high scores weren't really as involved as you might have thought.

1682
01:43:01,700 --> 01:43:06,600
So so Vancouver, I don't know.

1683
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,160
I don't know what to expect.

1684
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:12,000
I mean, they were playing Portland, so they were going to be up for that game, especially

1685
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,760
after you're going to expect Portland is going to come in and want to destroy them.

1686
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,000
And so Portland was probably too up for it.

1687
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:24,920
I mean, Portland's been outscored by Vancouver nine to one in the last two games in their

1688
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:26,280
last two games.

1689
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,720
They've been in their last one.

1690
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:29,720
Yeah.

1691
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,480
No, just crazy stuff there.

1692
01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:33,480
Just crazy stuff.

1693
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:40,360
And then and then I guess I'll say Patrick, Patrick G.C. What's our ideal attacking midfield,

1694
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:48,040
assuming the other eight positions are Fry, Newhoo, Reagan, Yamar, Christian, Obed with

1695
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:49,880
Morris at the nine.

1696
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:56,920
So so that means we got to decide is Alex rolled on in there?

1697
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:04,160
Those are right now, despite the fact that they say we're playing three at the back,

1698
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:05,600
we're playing four at the back.

1699
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:06,600
It's just they're shifting.

1700
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:11,920
I think they're shifting more in a way similar to what Columbus has done and what Nalsi did

1701
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,760
there where you're shifting up and then anyone can move up the field.

1702
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,680
So it's similar to what we've done in the past.

1703
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:21,800
So we're playing four at the back, but with only three back at any given time.

1704
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:29,600
Yeah, I mean, basically it looks like one, two, three, three, four, five, six, seven.

1705
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:41,080
So he's asking us to pick four players out of out of Georgie Pedro Jesus.

1706
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,480
No, no, no.

1707
01:44:43,480 --> 01:44:44,480
Because he give us eight.

1708
01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:47,920
Yeah, but he's also including Fry.

1709
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,160
Yeah.

1710
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:56,760
So it's three left because there's 11 on the field with Fry.

1711
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:03,920
Well, then his math is hard because he said the other eight positions, but he only named

1712
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:04,920
seven.

1713
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:05,920
He only listed seven.

1714
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:06,920
You're right.

1715
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:07,920
So maybe he forgot Alex.

1716
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:14,080
So let's just assume he's including Alex because he's not attacking midfielder and he's asking

1717
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,080
about midfield.

1718
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,080
Yeah.

1719
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:20,000
I just thought maybe he was thinking knew who Reagan, I don't know, because I don't

1720
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,920
know if he's asking if new who Reagan, Neymar are playing a back three.

1721
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:24,920
So yeah, that was the way.

1722
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,840
And even if they are Alex is back with them anyways on the outside.

1723
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,560
I mean, either way, either Alex is probably one of the yeah.

1724
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,100
So so I mean, you're talking about between.

1725
01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:40,520
So for the for the three positions, you're talking about Pedro Jesus, Paul, Ariella,

1726
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,520
Paul Rothrock, Georgie.

1727
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,560
RBW and comes back.

1728
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,840
Well I think RBW is competing for Alex's spot, isn't he?

1729
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:51,840
I would hope.

1730
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:56,760
But last year we played him on the wing a lot.

1731
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,680
Well he's not going to be any of those five that we just named in my opinion.

1732
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:06,200
So so so so basically three out of those five.

1733
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:16,200
So once again, Rothrock, Ariella, the two Paul's Pedro, the three P's.

1734
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:22,720
Oh my god, did we not even I didn't say oh, I mean, it's like, enjoy.

1735
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:26,960
It's like, for me, it's like Pedro and Ferrera.

1736
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,480
Those are your starting three.

1737
01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:31,920
Yeah, I think I'm agreeing with you there.

1738
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:36,200
It's just crazy that that's a lot of attacking talent.

1739
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:37,200
Mm hmm.

1740
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:38,200
I know.

1741
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:39,200
All right.

1742
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,640
That's that's that's oh my god.

1743
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:42,640
I love this.

1744
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,600
I mean, we didn't miss a beat with the backups in.

1745
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:49,480
I mean, Rothrock and I would I actually would prefer it usually if we had Rothrock or Georgie

1746
01:46:49,480 --> 01:46:53,880
playing rather than both, because I would like us to be able to cycle our starters out

1747
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:59,440
a little more because Rothrock wasn't.

1748
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:04,560
At all, by any means, but he also wasn't having an impact on the left side of the field the

1749
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:06,360
way Georgie was on the right.

1750
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:11,960
There was no reason for the players to come to the left and cover the same way.

1751
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:17,280
And part of that was he got a yellow card early on, so he couldn't be pushing forward

1752
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:18,280
the same way.

1753
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,400
Well, well, just keep this in mind, though.

1754
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:28,000
I mean, just just keep in mind that Charlay only allowed 37 goals last year.

1755
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,040
For context, we're the best defense we allowed 35.

1756
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:32,040
Sure.

1757
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:37,960
So so their goalie one goalie of the year, despite driving in every category, but say

1758
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,880
percentage and he was only one percent better than Fry.

1759
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:41,880
Yeah, yeah.

1760
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:46,120
But but but what I'm getting at there is.

1761
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,240
Is.

1762
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,240
That's a very good defensive team.

1763
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:55,160
And sure, but what we saw in the field was we exploited them time and time again, and

1764
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:56,720
we should have more goals.

1765
01:47:56,720 --> 01:48:01,720
Exactly, so if we're doing that against one of the top defensive teams.

1766
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:08,200
Antigua is going to be the first time I think because I'm going to look at Antigua as this

1767
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,840
is how we would play against a Chicago.

1768
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:16,000
This is how we're going to play against a not San Jose maybe anymore, but traditional

1769
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,400
San Jose type team.

1770
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:23,040
We've only got a few minutes left here, probably five or so.

1771
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,440
So let's do a quick preview of the Antigua match.

1772
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:30,620
Yeah, so we are up three one.

1773
01:48:30,620 --> 01:48:34,000
So first and foremost, what that means away goals count.

1774
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:39,400
So we need to not lose by two.

1775
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,200
Unless it's two nothing.

1776
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,000
That was a no, that doesn't work.

1777
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,480
Yeah, no, it does to nothing.

1778
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:47,480
We would lose.

1779
01:48:47,480 --> 01:48:48,480
Oh no, because we scored three.

1780
01:48:48,480 --> 01:48:49,480
You're correct.

1781
01:48:49,480 --> 01:48:50,480
Yep.

1782
01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:51,480
Three away goals.

1783
01:48:51,480 --> 01:48:52,480
Yep.

1784
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:53,480
Correct.

1785
01:48:53,480 --> 01:48:54,480
Here's what happens.

1786
01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:56,320
They have to score three goals or at least three goals.

1787
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,200
If they do not score at least three goals, we advance.

1788
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:00,200
We can start right now.

1789
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:01,200
Correct.

1790
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:02,200
Now that's correct.

1791
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,280
So the first step is they have to score three goals.

1792
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:11,820
If they score three goals and we score none, they advance for three.

1793
01:49:11,820 --> 01:49:18,480
If we score a goal for every goal we score.

1794
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:24,040
That basically makes their work that much harder.

1795
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:25,040
So if we score a goal.

1796
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,480
So they have to score one and a half basically after the first.

1797
01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:28,480
Correct.

1798
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:29,480
Yeah.

1799
01:49:29,480 --> 01:49:33,080
If we score one, they can score three and we can go into penalty or overtime and penalty

1800
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:34,080
kicks.

1801
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:40,240
Yeah, it's going to be very difficult for them.

1802
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,160
I mean, three one.

1803
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:46,840
Yeah, scoring three goals in Seattle against our defense would seem incredible because

1804
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:53,600
even if we decided to push everyone forward and play like we did in that first match,

1805
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:58,880
I can't see Schmetzer not locking it down if they score a goal and going, okay, we need

1806
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,520
to take a step back.

1807
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:01,520
Yeah.

1808
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,400
Do you think we are going to go out there and park the bus or do you think we're going

1809
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:10,920
to go out there and use our offensive players to try and get that fourth goal, which essentially

1810
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:16,600
would make it almost impossible for Antigua to advance?

1811
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:21,160
I feel like we're going to put.

1812
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:26,080
I don't think it's going to be Jordan just because he's done a lot of minutes already.

1813
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:33,680
But I think we're going to put one of our players that can beat you with pace.

1814
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:37,200
I mean, is that going to be Rothrock?

1815
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,280
Is that going to be Georgie?

1816
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:40,760
Is that going to be Georgie?

1817
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:41,760
I don't.

1818
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,840
Georgie or Jesus are probably the two that can be.

1819
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:51,080
I don't think Rothrock can beat you with pace the same way those two can.

1820
01:50:51,080 --> 01:51:00,920
I think Brian's messaging is going to be along the lines of they are going to push.

1821
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:11,240
We can kind of play our style, our possession style and do what we want to do and wait for

1822
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:15,000
our opportunities because we're going to get them.

1823
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:23,460
And the longer that game goes without a goal, the better we are going to be.

1824
01:51:23,460 --> 01:51:29,600
So we don't have to do much other than just be smart to start that game.

1825
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:37,080
We very we easily could have multiple goals in that first half.

1826
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,840
I don't know if we're going to push for multiple goals in that first half.

1827
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,880
I think we're going to kind of take what they're giving us.

1828
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,760
Yeah, I think that's probably true.

1829
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:48,080
I think it's going to be harder for them.

1830
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:53,440
The weather is going to be shittier.

1831
01:51:53,440 --> 01:51:56,720
They've had to travel all the way up here.

1832
01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:00,960
And I don't know, it just seems like it's going to be difficult for them to play.

1833
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,640
And so I think the Sounders should win this.

1834
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:08,400
I do think if the Sounders don't advance, this could be a catastrophe.

1835
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:11,800
That means we lost three nothing for one plus.

1836
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,040
If we're giving up that many goals at home, something's gone seriously wrong.

1837
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:16,260
I don't think it will.

1838
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:20,160
To me, that's not possible.

1839
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,160
It technically possible.

1840
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:23,160
It would be.

1841
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:29,280
It would be one of the biggest elements in the PongaCaf history.

1842
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:40,960
It would require an early red card and a dog so red card in the box, so a one nothing penalty

1843
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,960
lead.

1844
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,960
And then just.

1845
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:47,960
Yeah.

1846
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,960
It would have to be.

1847
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:55,480
It going full conca-calf.

1848
01:52:55,480 --> 01:53:00,680
Because even if Fry got a red card, I am confident that Thomas would come in and hold us in that

1849
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:01,680
game.

1850
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:04,640
It's not like you're coming in with a rookie or a bad backup.

1851
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:08,040
You're coming in with a guy who could start.

1852
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,160
And we have subs available all over.

1853
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:15,000
There's no world where I see even in that situation, we don't advance, even though we

1854
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,000
should.

1855
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:23,600
And I don't want to just squirgle and make it easy.

1856
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:24,600
Yeah.

1857
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:25,600
Score prediction.

1858
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:32,680
This one's tough because I think I agree with you that we're going to sit back a little

1859
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,680
more, but that will give us the ability to counter.

1860
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,440
And we've got the speed.

1861
01:53:38,440 --> 01:53:43,520
For me to largely depend on the lineup.

1862
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:47,480
If we're starting Misovsky up top, I just I don't think we're going to score.

1863
01:53:47,480 --> 01:53:51,720
And so I could see us either going 0-0 or one nothing.

1864
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:52,720
That doesn't actually.

1865
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:53,720
Losing one nothing?

1866
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:54,720
Yeah.

1867
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:55,720
Okay.

1868
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:56,720
Yeah.

1869
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:58,400
Because if you give up a goal, it doesn't matter.

1870
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,000
Like you still in.

1871
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,000
But that's a win.

1872
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:02,920
And I think Sounders fans need to remember that.

1873
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:03,920
Yeah.

1874
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:05,040
Because we're part of the team.

1875
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,840
I would prefer to score and we have enough talent to score regardless of who's playing

1876
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:10,800
forward, I think.

1877
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:15,600
But I think my I think ultimately I think it might be two one Sounders.

1878
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:19,200
I don't with with us scoring first or them scoring first.

1879
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:23,680
I think with us scoring first, if they score first, I think it changes a little bit.

1880
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,560
Because we will we will lock down.

1881
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:28,320
I could see it being one nothing.

1882
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,400
If they score first, I could see the game ending with nothing really easily.

1883
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:32,400
Okay.

1884
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:40,280
I just think the I just can't see a situation where we play content to lose one nothing.

1885
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:45,000
I just it's just not at home against this.

1886
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:48,080
I mean, here's the problem though, is you start pushing forward then and then you give

1887
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,560
up another countering attack goal and now suddenly it's two nothing.

1888
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:55,200
And and we know how we are holding one leads at home since 2020.

1889
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,880
I get that.

1890
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:01,760
But I think against this team, I think we don't have to push.

1891
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,400
I don't think we have to push particularly hard.

1892
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:06,400
That's true.

1893
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:09,680
To break away with two players ourselves.

1894
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:18,220
We can we can hold our back line and tell our back line to play smart and still have

1895
01:55:18,220 --> 01:55:21,160
enough talent to get a goal.

1896
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:22,160
Agreed.

1897
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:23,160
Agreed.

1898
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:24,160
So what's your score prediction?

1899
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:36,160
I'm going to say two nothing because I think once we get to two us or them us us to nothing

1900
01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:41,960
else because I think once we get to two, we're just going to be like, all right, we we got

1901
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:42,960
two goals.

1902
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:44,520
This game is put away.

1903
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:45,880
Stay healthy.

1904
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:49,800
Let's just be you know, we're not going to we're not going to quote unquote go for the

1905
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:53,360
kill or going to we already got the kill.

1906
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:54,360
The kill.

1907
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,360
They're dead already.

1908
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:56,360
Stop it.

1909
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:57,360
They're dead already.

1910
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:58,360
You know, just there.

1911
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,080
Yeah, I'm going to say two nothing else.

1912
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:02,080
Awesome.

1913
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,680
Um, looks like we're about to go over time.

1914
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,480
So I'm going to do a little fancy editing.

1915
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,520
So where can they find you on the Internet?

1916
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:15,160
Come find me on Instagram at Cascades to see what about you, Cameron?

1917
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:19,960
Legal minded punk everywhere that you find social media.

1918
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:21,000
What should we do next?

1919
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,800
What should we say?

1920
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:28,320
James, you beautiful man, take it away.

1921
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:35,680
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1922
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:41,520
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1923
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,360
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1924
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:50,280
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1925
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,080
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1926
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:59,320
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1927
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,840
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1928
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:16,800
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