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He's a tough kid.

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It's Romclapping right now

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The other champion!

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The other champion!

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The other champion!

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The champion!

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Hello and welcome to another episode

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of Sounders Scuttlebutt.

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I'm your host today, Cameron Collins,

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and I'm here with my co-host, Nicholas Piela,

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the at-large and at-large member

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of the Alliance Council for the Sounders,

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also one of the, what are you,

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the treasurer for ECSFC,

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and a board member for Pub League, ECS Pub League?

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That's right, that's right.

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All those things, all those things,

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and none of those things all at once.

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Yes, exactly.

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Well, we had to jump on here

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because the Sounders have a match tomorrow.

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I'm excited.

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Are you excited?

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I am, I am very excited.

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We'll get more into that first.

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I think you have a beer to open.

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I do, that would be a great idea.

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So let me just kinda crack this up, especially.

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There we go.

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Especially after this weekend,

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I just flew in last night.

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I did not sleep last night.

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So I am-

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And boy, are your arms tired.

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You're not wrong.

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Ooh.

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That sounds really good. That was a seltzer water.

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So tell us about your trip.

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Yeah, so thank you.

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We got to the high up in the Rockies every year

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for President's Day weekend for Pond Hockey Tournament.

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They had over 300 teams across multiple divisions.

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Fantastic time.

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It's something that I look forward to every year.

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We are going on four tournaments straight without a win.

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Too much beer, huh?

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All the beer.

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Well, we are the Seattle Super Chronics.

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That is the name of the team.

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It is a weed-based themed team with our,

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kinda like the Seattle SuperSonics logo

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with some cannabis flavor to them.

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But ultimately what it really comes down to

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is we just like bringing good vibes to the tournament.

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It's just a lot of fun when people go,

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oh, good to see you guys again.

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We're so excited to play against you.

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We love seeing you in there.

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Just really nice.

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After 10 years of it, there's only a handful of teams

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that have consistently been there under the same team name.

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So it's kinda fun.

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Interesting that you bring up the Sonics since today.

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We're recording Tuesday, February 18th.

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And today during his State of the City address,

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our mayor made a joke that he was going to make

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an announcement about the Sonics coming back

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and then was like, just kidding.

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Read the room.

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I mean, why, what made you think that was a good idea?

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And I think he's getting rightly roasted right now.

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I mean, you heard that crowd response in the video.

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They were like, oh my God, is he announcing something?

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And the room started roaring.

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And then he was like, just kidding.

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Yeah, just a strange choice.

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Decisions were made.

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I guess day one, some teams played already,

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but day one of the main games

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of the CONCACAF Champions Cup.

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We have, for our viewing pleasure,

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Colorado playing LAFC right now on.

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So you'll get our live reaction to any goals there

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at a match where, I guess it was seven degrees

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when it started, I just heard from Dan Boniface

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that is two degrees now at the match.

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So there's not a lot of people there.

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I get that.

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That's gonna be one of the coldest games in LA.

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I mean, it's not league play.

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No, but yeah, it's gotta be,

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because that is freezing.

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but still, look at those people dancing.

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They're like, we gotta stay warm somehow.

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So fun stuff, of course, as Sounders fans

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we're rooting for Colorado.

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I suppose you are too.

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I think so.

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I have no negative towards them right now.

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which I'm sure we'll talk about in just a little bit.

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Spoiler alert. Absolutely.

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We'll have some trade talk.

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And I don't know, anything else non-Sounders related?

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which is all Sounders related stuff

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and fly through this short episode

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since we have a match tomorrow.

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There'll be less time to listen to it than normal.

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I will say, before we get too far,

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join our Discord, join our Patreon.

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On Discord right now,

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if you go to the Sounder Scudabut channel,

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pinned at the top is the CONCACAF YouTube

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for tomorrow's Sounders match,

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because it is only available on Fox Soccer Plus,

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which is not on Xfinity.

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So if you have cable, you will not get it.

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You can get it through an add-on on Fubu TV.

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You can get it through VIX,

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which is a Spanish language streaming service,

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or you can find it through Fox Soccer Plus,

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which is only on a few places.

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So I can't get that, but CONCACAF has their own YouTubes.

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So you can watch it there.

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The current match that we're watching right now

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is in Spanish.

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So it'll likely be in Spanish,

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so brush up on your Spanish,

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but definitely that may be the only way

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that you get to watch the Sounders match tomorrow,

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it gets Antigua.

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So head on over, join our Discord for Sounder Scudabut

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and look in the Sounder Scudabut channel,

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because that's where we have the pen shout out

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to Alex Diaz for sharing that with us.

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Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.

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I think it'll be a fun season this year.

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I have a feeling it's gonna be a really good year for us

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on the Discord side of things,

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looking to see how that evolves.

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Yeah, it'll be super fun.

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We've got some cool people in there talking Sounders,

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and we hope that if you're listening

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and you're not active in there, you'll come join too,

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because A, you can put stuff in the mailbag

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for us to answer, but B, then your voice is heard

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and we're not just hearing one side of things,

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everyone has their own opinion.

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So it's fun to get involved and get in the discussion.

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We're not always involved in all the discussions,

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especially if it's something that we're sworn to secrecy on

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from the club, we've signed things,

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and so we cannot talk about certain things.

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once they're public,

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and I think that's the number one thing that we got.

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So we will definitely hit that.

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Just wanna make sure that you have nothing else

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you wanna hit before we get to Sounders.

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No, no, but with that in mind,

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let's definitely make sure that we do talk about reactions

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to the kit drop, even though, spoiler alert,

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we're also, after recording this,

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we are gonna record a special Patreon-only episode

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where we break down all of the kits across all 30 teams.

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So I believe that is 32 kits in total

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because both Inter Miami and San Diego FC

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have two kits this year.

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So that'll be a lot of fun,

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but that is going to be just kind of a benefit

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to Patreon subscribers to have access to that.

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do you wanna kind of give some news

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on what we're gonna test with that?

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of the show in video, which may or may not be the future.

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I mean, it will be the future of this podcast,

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but it's gonna take a little time to get it figured out.

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So we actually record most episodes in video,

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but maybe aren't the most presentable at times.

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So- What are you talking about?

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Are you talking about the state of my room?

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And my room and how I'm dressing sometimes.

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And I mean, didn't I do,

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I did a bunch of shows last year, topless.

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You did actually, that is true, that did happen.

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So we will do video and hopefully that'll be the first one.

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We know it'll have audio no matter what.

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so you can go watch them on YouTube.

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through certain podcasting apps like Pocket Cast,

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which is the one I use,

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where you'll be able to watch a video,

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at least what we're sharing live on there as well.

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And we're gonna join the 2000s with our technology.

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I mean, yeah, it's just a matter of giving more options

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for soccer content.

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And especially when you've got a year

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just trying to give more content for people.

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where we have options.

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to join the Discord because you're hearing

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the Discord notification as people are asking

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for questions as we speak.

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So looks like they are headed into injury time

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in the first half here, Colorado LAFC zero zero,

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no real dangerous shots.

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I mean, a couple nice runs for LAFC,

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a couple nice runs for Colorado,

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but nothing too dangerous there.

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Which is to be expected with the temperatures

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and the fact that it's in Colorado.

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So you got the altitude and literally I was in Colorado,

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I passed by Dick's Sporting Park yesterday and it was,

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it was a little chippy, a little cold.

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I bet.

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Colorado is 55% possession, but two shots on goal,

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or one shot on goal, two shots total,

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the four shots by LFC two on goal,

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one off sides for Colorado and one corner for LAFC.

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So not a lot going on in that match.

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I think LAFC might be happy getting out of there zero zero,

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not that they won't try and score,

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but I feel like when we get to Sounders Antigua,

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that's kind of the goal of the first leg, right?

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You're testing out, you got a new team,

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you just wanna get out of there without giving up a goal.

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Yeah, but we have a little bit more of a differential

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of talent disparity between us and Antigua.

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But the general thesis is draw on the road, win at home.

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But you definitely don't wanna play with fire.

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Absolutely, so why don't we go into the very first thing,

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which is the question that came in immediately,

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something that you and I think have been excited

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to talk about for a while now.

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There were leaks that we could not comment on.

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I was super proud actually that our jersey,

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the Sailor Sea Kit did not fully get leaked

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until what, two days before it got released.

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So yeah, I think first.

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Let's see.

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It doesn't happen very often.

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Usually it gets released a lot earlier.

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Well, last year was released the day before,

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the year before was released day of.

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We've been pretty good about minimizing leaks.

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But last year, FIFA blew it, remember?

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Or EAFC or whatever when they put it up.

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So people had seen what it would look like,

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even though they didn't see actual pictures.

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But the Sailor Sea Kit,

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I think we had seen it a few different times,

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but we hadn't seen the storytelling around it.

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We knew the basic themes,

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but we didn't hear it in the people's voices,

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the women who had actually designed the kit.

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Correct, yeah, three different tribes,

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three different coastal weavers

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from three different tribes in the Seattle area

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worked together and collaborated together

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to honor the generations of women

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who do weaving practices.

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And so it was really nice to see that homage.

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And I think it was rolled out really well.

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I am very excited, not just that the high level concept

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was ambitious, but the actual design is beautiful.

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And really excited about,

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in Taylor Graham's words,

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he often will say when we're having meetings about jerseys,

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he will often say, especially for the Community Kit,

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especially for the Community Kit in particular,

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it's telling a story.

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It's very story-driven.

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And what is the story that we want to tell?

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And that is a high level look

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at what motivates the Sounders.

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It is about the story.

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And you're seeing that with the Jimmy Kit

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and the Bruce Lee Kit,

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and even previous iterations before them.

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But I think the Jimmy Kit was really the sea change

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where they really leaned all into

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the storytelling narratives for sure.

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And I think going forward, that'll be the norm.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Because there was storytelling around,

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was it Black and-

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Nightfall.

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Nightfall.

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There was storytelling around Nightfall.

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There was a little bit of storytelling around Pacific Blue.

352
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I don't think there was any,

353
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I'm forgetting the name of the kit,

354
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but my favorite, the Black and Green.

355
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Oh, no, Heritage had it, but the one before that,

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Black and Green.

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That was the Pitch Black.

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Pitch Black, that's correct.

359
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There wasn't really around that,

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but we were still with Xbox then.

361
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So there was some storytelling around the gaming

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that Xbox did.

363
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Master Chief came to a match.

364
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Yeah.

365
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We had the Halo Kit.

366
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But you did touch on it with,

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ever since with the Community Kits,

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ever since with starting with the Jimmy Kit,

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the club has been donating usually about $50,000.

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The first $50,000 of Jersey sales goes to

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some sort of nonprofit.

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I think with Jimmy,

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it was a charity involved with the Hendricks Foundation.

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With Bruce Lee, there were similar things

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with his legacy foundations.

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And then with this,

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I believe the...

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Wraith Foundation is working in the schools

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on the different reservations.

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The Burke Museum.

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The Luke.

382
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Yeah, and the Burke Museum.

383
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Yeah, Burke Museum, thank you.

384
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Yeah, and I know that's just something

385
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that it's really great to tie it in,

386
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but also tie it in so it doesn't feel like an afterthought,

387
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to feel very genuine.

388
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And that just makes me really happy.

389
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So what are your first reactions of the game?

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What are your first reactions of,

391
00:18:32,980 --> 00:18:36,340
let's start with how about the introduction video for it,

392
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the introducing of the Salish Sea Kit?

393
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I loved it.

394
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I mean, I think they nailed it.

395
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I'm a big fan of productions like that.

396
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And it's pretty amazing

397
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because considering the guys were in Spain,

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they had to put that together really fast

399
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and get them all in the kit and get it up.

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And obviously they had already figured out

401
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how they were gonna tell that story.

402
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And I can tell you from someone who has both been

403
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behind the camera, has been behind the sound,

404
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and then has been on the computer editing,

405
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that is not easy to do in that amount of time.

406
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So from a technical standpoint,

407
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I feel like they nailed it.

408
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It looks beautiful.

409
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It represents both our communities

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and the native communities,

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not saying that they aren't the same,

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but I mean our Sounders communities

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versus the different tribes.

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It represents all of them well.

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And I really liked hearing all three women

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tell the story in their own voices.

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00:19:32,260 --> 00:19:33,580
I thought that was really important

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because this is something that is integral

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to what Seattle is, what our Northwest community is.

420
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And it's part of Washington State history class.

421
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I know you didn't grow up here,

422
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but either your freshman year of high school

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or I took it in eighth grade,

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you have to take a Washington State history.

425
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And a lot of that does include Native American history.

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So it's awesome to continue to see that be the case.

427
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I was lucky because at schools I went to,

428
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I got extra education and all of that,

429
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and got to go on field trips.

430
00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:12,420
Yeah, and I similarly grew up in upstate New York.

431
00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:17,420
So that is very much the Algonquin and Iroquois,

432
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the Seneca Nation.

433
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So very similar.

434
00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:24,580
I mean, honestly, every state.

435
00:20:24,580 --> 00:20:28,180
Every state in the United States is, if we're being honest.

436
00:20:28,180 --> 00:20:31,220
Yes, but there are certain tribes

437
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that have held their traditions a little better than others

438
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because in both the Washington

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and the New York side of things,

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they for the most part stayed in their ancestral territories

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versus some of these tribes that,

442
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your Cherokees and your Seminoles

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who were migrated states away via Trail of Tears

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or things like that.

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So it's a little different for us.

446
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,400
And it does create some really interesting history,

447
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if history is something that you are a fan of.

448
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And that is definitely something I am.

449
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,840
But with that said, yeah, so I definitely wanted to give

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a lot of really, I wanted to actually specifically call out.

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So Connie McCloud from the Puyallup tribe,

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Gail White Eagle of the Muckleshoot tribe,

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and then Morse, I'm missing her first name.

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I don't have her first name offhand.

455
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,800
And that's really unfortunate.

456
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And that is of the Snoqualmie tribe, I think, I believe.

457
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,920
Yeah, we'll pull it up so we make sure

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that we have her name in there as well.

459
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But yeah, and there are Danielle Morse,

460
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the Snoqualmish tribe.

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And I think that's important note,

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like Chief Sealth, who Seattle is named after,

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was a leader of the Duwamish and Suquamish people.

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The Duwamish aren't federally recognized.

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So that is an important note that just because,

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maybe the tribe that people consider the most Seattle

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isn't even recognized, and that the Sounders sing about.

468
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The Sounders fans, ECS has the Duwamish.

469
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And that's really interesting.

470
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And we won't get into the politics of that.

471
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We won't get into the politics of why they are,

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or have not gained recognition.

473
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,480
There are certainly some interesting politics behind that.

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But for the most part, this is a great collaboration,

475
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which just makes me really happy to see.

476
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The colors, I love the color scheme.

477
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,560
Yeah, talk about that, because,

478
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,040
it's Sporting KC, oh, it's Vancouver.

479
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,200
Okay, so keep this in mind.

480
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,120
These are not away jerseys.

481
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,840
Right, none of these are not.

482
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,320
House of Sounders put a whole thing out about away jerseys,

483
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,320
and it really bothered me.

484
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,120
I was like, this is not an away kit.

485
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,700
Away kits don't exist.

486
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This is a community kit.

487
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,640
And they said, well, it doesn't matter.

488
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320
Well, it does matter for storytelling purposes,

489
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and because people keep messing this up.

490
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,720
So this is really important.

491
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,280
Yeah, so community kit,

492
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,960
and this is something where the Sounders reached out to us

493
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on the Alliance Council years ago.

494
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,600
This was shortly after the Heritage White.

495
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,240
So that was 2019.

496
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,360
Yeah, because that would have been designed 2017.

497
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,560
Yeah.

498
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,880
So it probably was before 2019 even.

499
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,920
Yeah, actually it would have been,

500
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,440
yeah, it would have been because-

501
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Because we're on that two-year cycle.

502
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,400
2019 was actually nightfall, I believe.

503
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,240
Hmm.

504
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,240
So we were asked years ago now, eight years ago,

505
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we were mainly asked,

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do we want to traditionally have our secondary kit

507
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be in our traditional color schemes?

508
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Or do we want to treat it like

509
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how we had previously been treating our third kit

510
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,080
when we were getting third kits for a long time?

511
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And keep in mind, Pitch Black was a third kit.

512
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The Heritage White, I believe,

513
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,600
might have been a third kit officially,

514
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,320
but I'm not 100% on that one.

515
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I think that was the first, quote unquote,

516
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community kit before they had a name for it.

517
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Okay, it's sometimes-

518
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,480
I believe it's the first year they eliminated third kits.

519
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Well, I know one of the years with the white

520
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,800
was also Pacific Blue, so I know there was overlap there.

521
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,800
Yeah, so I think we still had Pacific Blue

522
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if I'm recalling correctly at that time.

523
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,120
So that might've been, was Pacific Blue

524
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,480
the last third kit that we had?

525
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Yeah, that could be.

526
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,840
I'm pulling it up right now, so I can tell you for sure.

527
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,480
So ultimately, and while you're pulling that up,

528
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,880
so the point is,

529
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,640
our feedback to the club was definitely

530
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,840
of the nature of take swings.

531
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,840
We would rather see unique jerseys for our secondary kits

532
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,600
than basically, okay, here's your version of blue,

533
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,440
here's your version of that.

534
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840
Not saying you can't use the colors blue

535
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,840
or you can't use colors within the Sounders color scheme,

536
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,360
but to not be afraid if you only get two kits, be bold.

537
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:06,360
And I think we've seen that with Nightfall, Jimmy,

538
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:09,120
Bruce Lee, and now this.

539
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,840
And it's paying off because this is now

540
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,840
the third straight time that our secondary kit

541
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,520
on Jersey Launch has been pretty universally top three

542
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,520
and has been named top Jersey by multiple sources.

543
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,480
I think second straight community kit,

544
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,040
it's been number one by the MLS.

545
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,520
So yeah, 2017 was the end of Pacific Blue,

546
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,880
that was the second year.

547
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,200
And that was the first year of the Heritage Kit,

548
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,200
which replaced the Olympic whites.

549
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,240
So we had white kit and that was also 2017,

550
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,040
no, I guess 2018, because we still had the Heritage kit.

551
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,520
For one more year where we had marijuana flage,

552
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,360
which is not its real name.

553
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,880
I don't recall its real name.

554
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,880
And Heritage, that was the last year of the older scheme

555
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,440
in terms of home and away,

556
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,440
because now it's home kit light,

557
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,240
or first kit light, secondary kit dark.

558
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040
And that didn't exist in 2018.

559
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,120
2019 is when that implemented,

560
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,360
which was the start of the quote unquote community kit

561
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:23,160
even though it didn't have that name, which was nightfall.

562
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,200
So which is why our secondary Jersey will always be dark,

563
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,040
which is why we had to wear it a lot last year,

564
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,960
because if we're on the road

565
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,240
and somebody chooses a light color, we have to wear a dark,

566
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,880
or if they choose a color that's too similar to our green,

567
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,400
even at home, we could switch to the other one.

568
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080
I mean, there was a bunch of instances where,

569
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,360
like we couldn't wear green and having the Timbers

570
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:45,400
wear green at the same time, it just looks too weird.

571
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,800
I think last year, neither team could wear green,

572
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,400
either any of the games.

573
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Yeah, so I think they're working on,

574
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,800
I heard there were some TV tests going on,

575
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,200
so we'll see what happens moving forward.

576
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,800
But yeah, so it started right there with,

577
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,400
we haven't had a third kit since 2017.

578
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800
And so we've said, be bold.

579
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,400
And the first was that-

580
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Nightfall.

581
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,800
Nightfall, 2019, 2020.

582
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,320
And then we got Jimmy, and then Bruce Lee,

583
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,000
and now we have some of the other guys

584
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200
who are in Bruce Lee, and now we have Sailor Slee.

585
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,400
Yeah, and so ultimately, it's just really fascinating.

586
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,680
And to give people context,

587
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
the kit just launched last week.

588
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,800
The club is already putting together stories

589
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,560
and pitching story ideas for the jersey

590
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,080
that will eventually replace this kit.

591
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,760
So that's how far these things are done.

592
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,720
Yeah, so next year's home kit

593
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,800
is already largely completed.

594
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520
And there's always storytelling around that too.

595
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,360
But it's a little different than the community kit.

596
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,560
The community kit is meant to tie directly back

597
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,440
into the Sounders community, the Northwest community,

598
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,560
just stuff that's happened around us.

599
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,680
And when we eventually talk about all the other kits

600
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,160
around the league, you'll notice that not every club

601
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,920
makes the deliberate decisions

602
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,760
to treat their secondary kits in this manner.

603
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Yeah, I think it's a missed opportunity.

604
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,200
You're seeing a lot of homogeny and a lot of,

605
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,880
oh, it's a white t-shirt, okay, great.

606
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,680
It's basically that template.

607
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,800
And you just don't get that with this kit.

608
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,800
And I'm very, very pleased about that.

609
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaking of LAFC walking back onto the field

610
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,440
with their community kit on,

611
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,560
which is just a white t-shirt with gold accents.

612
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Well, you know what?

613
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,720
That's the thing though,

614
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,720
is not every club uses community kit.

615
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,720
They will use secondary kit.

616
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,560
Right, but technically the league is moved away from that,

617
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760
but that's still what they're doing

618
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,600
because they don't wanna tell a story.

619
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,040
And I don't know why that is.

620
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,040
But we'll get more into that in the next episode.

621
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Well, wait, wait, wait.

622
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,840
Not only do they not wanna tell a story,

623
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,680
that is the one kit out of all 32 kits

624
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,360
that literally has no name.

625
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,600
It's literally just LAFC secondary kit.

626
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080
It doesn't have the Sailor She-Kit, the Heartbeat Kit,

627
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,440
the secondary, the Fortress Kit.

628
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880
No, it's just- I mean, it is just a template kit.

629
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,240
It's like a template t-shirt, so it makes sense, I suppose.

630
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,600
You deserve, I guess.

631
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,440
So where do you rate this on the Sounders kits of all time?

632
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Where is this on your list?

633
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,640
If I'm being completely honest,

634
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,960
this might be the best one-two combination we've got.

635
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:04,600
I'm not saying they're the best two jerseys we've had,

636
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,920
but this is a really good one-two punch.

637
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,080
The stripes on the Heritage Kit are beautiful.

638
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,760
I particularly love the Jock Tag.

639
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,080
The water is sacred.

640
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600
Which is another reason why it's blue.

641
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,440
Yeah.

642
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,800
That's in English.

643
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,080
And the Southern Lushatseed,

644
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,720
which is the custom language of Squamish,

645
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
it's a Squamish, Muckleshoot, Puyallup,

646
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,280
and Coast Salish tribes.

647
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,880
Yeah, a bunch of the Coast Salish tribes.

648
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,520
So it's just really, really fascinating.

649
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,960
And those of you that are often going to games at Lumen

650
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,080
will see some of that language as well

651
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,120
on some of the signage around Lumen Field as well.

652
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,120
And so I think it's just another step in the right direction,

653
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,560
especially when that's a history

654
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,520
that oftentimes people try to erase.

655
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,640
And so it's just beautiful.

656
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,280
I'm a big fan of it.

657
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,640
Me too.

658
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,480
I love it.

659
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,640
It's definitely just that this single kit is in my top five.

660
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,720
I want to see it on the field

661
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,520
before I actually put it anywhere.

662
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,680
My guess is I will have it as third most favorite

663
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,520
of all time.

664
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,000
But whoa, I think Colorado just drew a penalty.

665
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,800
We'll find out. I think so.

666
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,680
They're gonna have to go to VAR

667
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520
because I don't think they called that on the field.

668
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800
Oh, they did.

669
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,120
They did.

670
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,120
Okay, let's go Colorado.

671
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,440
But yeah, I think this is gonna be a top five kit.

672
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,680
I mean, I know it's a top five kit

673
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,120
and I think it's one of my favorites,

674
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,880
not just the storytelling side.

675
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,680
It's the storytelling, the colors, everything about it.

676
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,800
We get a lot of insight

677
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,160
and we'll talk more about it on the Patreon episode,

678
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,360
but we get to have a lot of insight

679
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,440
into how the jerseys get made and the process

680
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,040
and the players involved.

681
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,040
This is a home run for me.

682
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,520
Yeah, I'm very curious to see what kind of

683
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,880
international look that it may or may not get.

684
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,680
Because it's not a template,

685
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,840
because it is a unique thing,

686
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,520
I am curious to see if it gets some buzz there.

687
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,760
Obviously Jimmy was an easy one.

688
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,960
Bruce Lee, both those are worldwide global icons.

689
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,240
So maybe it won't get the same kind of vibe,

690
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560
but just kind of fun to see.

691
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,440
I am a kid in Jimmy. I can see it though.

692
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Because MLS is such a driver

693
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,560
in terms of conversations right now,

694
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,280
that I could easily see them trying to get a lot of US clicks.

695
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,960
Because if you think about the size of our country

696
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,560
and the way MLS is blowing up,

697
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520
that's definitely something that they would be

698
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,360
into getting into.

699
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,480
I mean, in all honesty though,

700
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200
these are two beautiful kits

701
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,840
to showcase ourselves to the world.

702
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,320
So no matter how we line up for Club World Cup,

703
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,280
I'm pretty happy with that.

704
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,520
And Colorado.

705
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,240
Yeah, put hell of an end.

706
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,920
That's what's up, Colorado.

707
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,600
48th minute.

708
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,280
49th minute, 49th minute.

709
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,240
Just before the 49th maybe, I think it was like 47, 59.

710
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,920
So one nothing right now.

711
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,360
So speaking of Colorado, this is a good segue.

712
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Yeah.

713
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,040
Good, good segue.

714
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,560
So word came out over the weekend

715
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,560
that the Colorado Rapids traded for Josh Chatencio.

716
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,480
What was your initial reaction to this?

717
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,480
And before we up to 1.6 million in general allocation money.

718
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,560
Yeah, 1.3 guaranteed.

719
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,800
1.3 guaranteed.

720
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,800
Now keep in mind that they are allowed to trade for cash,

721
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,680
but if they trade for cash,

722
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480
only certain amounts could theoretically be using.

723
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,320
It wouldn't really affect.

724
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,320
And you can only do two trades like that

725
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,760
for the whole season.

726
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,600
Yeah.

727
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,960
So you're really hamstringing yourself

728
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,080
of potential future moves if you made that move now.

729
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,320
Exactly, exactly.

730
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,760
So I like the trade for GAM,

731
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,080
because essentially my thought is that

732
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,000
you're essentially getting 1.3 million

733
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,800
for a deep bench player.

734
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,000
And I really like Josh Chatencio,

735
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,800
but I just don't see how he was going to get

736
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,800
more than seven starts with this lineup that we have.

737
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,320
He had his chance last year,

738
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,520
and obviously the Sounders thought he was gonna take it.

739
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,520
They made him number eight.

740
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,360
Yeah.

741
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040
Okay, here's the chance to play,

742
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,680
play maybe overtake Obed because he was older,

743
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,160
because he developed so much the previous year.

744
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,440
And instead he seemed to take a step back.

745
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,560
I mean, there was a few matches,

746
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,680
and I don't wanna be too critical of him

747
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,440
because he wasn't getting the playing time,

748
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,160
but there was a few matches where he subbed on late

749
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,640
and some of his mistakes led,

750
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,000
like the San Jose match that cost us the Heritage Cup,

751
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,520
directly led to a goal.

752
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Well, now maybe other people are out of position,

753
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,680
maybe there's lots of,

754
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,640
it wasn't just his fault that we didn't win that game.

755
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,360
But that was just an example of he came on

756
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,600
and then couldn't hold off the opposing team.

757
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,480
And if you're not getting that rhythm.

758
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,240
Right, and so it's amazing how much he just,

759
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,080
something happened where he was no longer developing

760
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,000
to the point where we're so deep at center defensive mid

761
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520
with Christian moving back to that position

762
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,400
where he was so good in the past

763
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,960
prior to the last World Cup

764
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,280
that you weren't gonna see him get minutes there,

765
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,080
which is why they were moving him to center back.

766
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,760
But listening to Schmetzer today or yesterday,

767
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,320
whenever it was talk about it,

768
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,560
I think that they had such a,

769
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Stuart Hawkins definitely making the club

770
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,360
and Kim Ki-hee coming in,

771
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,560
they felt like they had an offer they couldn't refuse

772
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,680
because they had turned down other offers.

773
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Yeah, well, keep in mind,

774
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Atensio is still getting US men's national team looks.

775
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040
He was on the summer Olympics roster.

776
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,240
He has club World Cup experience.

777
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:47,240
He is very, very talented still.

778
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,920
He's only 23 years old.

779
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,520
I think a key example of that is the fact that part

780
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,800
of the transaction is that Seattle retained the percentage

781
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,280
of future transfer fee.

782
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,800
Yeah, there's a sell on class.

783
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,800
Exactly, and that tells you in a nutshell

784
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,600
kind of what we're saying right there

785
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,000
is that he still has tremendous potential value.

786
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,960
And right now,

787
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,600
this 1.3 to 1.6 million,

788
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,200
there's definitely a few worlds in which

789
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,200
we can get even more because I can see Atensio moving on

790
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,840
outside of the league.

791
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,480
I can see that really happening.

792
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,960
If we were making, if we're getting good money

793
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,920
for Henry Wingo to go over to Europe,

794
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,680
Sam Rogers, who's now back with Chicago,

795
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,400
I think Atensio is a better player than both of them.

796
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Yeah, much higher ceiling in retrospect.

797
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,840
I think Sam Rogers maybe had the highest ceiling

798
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,760
of all those players, but then stopped developing

799
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,800
altogether.

800
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,200
I think there's still plenty of time.

801
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,600
He was playing in Champions League,

802
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,360
and so he was, actually so was Henry Wingo actually.

803
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,240
But Wingo I think was early enough in time

804
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:16,080
that the MLS was not the quality that it is now.

805
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,080
I don't think Henry Wingo would be making a roster today

806
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,640
in MLS Cup, or in MLS the same way.

807
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,280
If he did, he'd be near the bottom of the roster,

808
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,120
but absolutely.

809
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,120
I think the other really important thing to think about

810
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,880
is the Sounders now have no U22 players.

811
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,000
That's right.

812
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,960
They moved on from him.

813
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,880
They moved on from Leo Chu,

814
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,120
which means not only do we have potentially,

815
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,560
we have cap space, quite a bit of cap space that opened up.

816
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,840
We have GAM.

817
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,680
Now keep in mind, we don't have 1.3 million.

818
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,040
We have 650,000 this year.

819
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,360
The other 650 will come next year.

820
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,240
But just-

821
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:02,480
Plus freeing up his 250 against the cap,

822
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,040
which brings us up to 850.

823
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,960
But it still gives us the opportunity to bring in a U22.

824
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,520
Oh, Colorado, no.

825
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,360
They're attacking.

826
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,880
Oh, did it go in?

827
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,560
No, oh my God.

828
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,000
That was the craziest thing I've ever seen.

829
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,840
I would not have interrupted our thoughts just for that,

830
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,960
but that was wild bouncing around in the box.

831
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,400
So you're absolutely right.

832
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,400
Now I do expect to see us utilizing

833
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,280
one of those three spots for a Leiva.

834
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,840
I don't know, Leiva has to earn everything still.

835
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,160
Obed, Obed for sure.

836
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,240
No, no, the point is right now,

837
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:48,640
if you designate that as a U22,

838
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,360
that takes that whole salary off of the books.

839
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,840
There's no reason not to.

840
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520
It's kind of the way we would use Ozzy

841
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,000
as just a transactional DP for a bit.

842
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,920
And there's no parallel-

843
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,720
Sure, but I think, I don't know what Leiva's contract is,

844
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,320
but I don't think it's that high.

845
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,800
But I think there has been talk in the press conferences

846
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,120
a couple of things about bringing in Snyder Brunel still,

847
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160
who is wowing the team.

848
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,240
I don't know if he would need to be a U22 yet.

849
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,760
He could just be a homegrown.

850
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,280
I think he would be under the homegrown cap, I would think.

851
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,200
Yeah, potentially depending on how good he has been,

852
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,000
which I don't know the answer to that.

853
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000
And there's also been talk in the press conferences

854
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,960
that we've seen from Craig

855
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,840
that bringing in an outside U22

856
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,160
is a very real possibility leading into the summer.

857
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,800
And I think that's a realistic thing,

858
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,800
because even though we have three U22 slots,

859
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,040
we do not have the cap space for three U22 players.

860
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,160
There are two separate things-

861
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,960
If we brought them all internally, we could,

862
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,760
because we wouldn't have to pay a signing fee.

863
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Correct, transfer fees.

864
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,720
Yeah, transfer fees.

865
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:10,720
But that does mean theoretically, and this might happen,

866
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,800
and this is something the Sounders have not done a lot of,

867
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,960
is loans are not transfer fees.

868
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,960
So we could theoretically, if you're a European team,

869
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,160
you've got a player that's maybe a loan candidate

870
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,080
and they have a chance to compete

871
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,240
on the Club World Cup stage maybe,

872
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,720
that is a potential that could-

873
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:39,440
And I know nothing about any rumors or anything.

874
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,920
I am just kinda, I'm just talking about possibilities here,

875
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,920
and I'm not even entirely sure how that works.

876
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,920
So I'm not even entirely sure if I understand that correctly.

877
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,040
So please don't hold that to me.

878
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,600
Now we also are currently the three designated player model

879
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,760
with three U22s.

880
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,840
Now that we have zero, that potentially could change.

881
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,720
We can change that this summer.

882
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,160
I think the date, I believe the date's already passed,

883
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,640
but it could be this coming week that we have to declare that.

884
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,640
But either way, because it may be when the roster freezes.

885
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,920
But anyway, either way, we could change that at some point

886
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,040
and bring in another DP should it be a possible

887
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,520
through a loan scenario like you're talking about.

888
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,800
It wouldn't, it couldn't be a senior DP.

889
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,320
It would have to be a U22.

890
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Yeah, I mean, I thought, can't you do four and two?

891
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,840
I believe it's the other way around.

892
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Oh, you're right, it's the other way around.

893
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Four U22s.

894
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,360
You can do four U22s, correct.

895
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Yes.

896
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,320
So we're locked into the three and three model.

897
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,960
Yeah, which is interesting because Pedro

898
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,320
was a youth designated player when that existed.

899
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,480
Those don't exist anymore,

900
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,640
so he just counts as a regular DP.

901
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,480
Correct.

902
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,840
I wonder if he believes in himself enough

903
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,760
that they could rework that contract some way.

904
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,600
That'd be cool, but.

905
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,320
But either way, yeah, so we could bring in

906
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,480
three U22s in theory.

907
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,120
I would expect, I would guess one internal

908
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,880
and one external at this point, this season.

909
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,240
But who knows what'll happen.

910
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,680
I'd love to see an impact player come in

911
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,920
and try to make a difference.

912
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,640
But you're not bringing in a U22

913
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,680
that's not pushing for minutes when it comes down to it.

914
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,960
Yeah.

915
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,240
So I don't think that's a good idea.

916
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,440
I don't think Snyder Brunel would need to.

917
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,360
I think he would join our other homegrown players

918
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,760
who of course are Obed, Cody Baker, Reed Baker-Whiting,

919
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,720
Jacob Castro and Stuart Hawkins.

920
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,080
And so I think he would join that task.

921
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,680
And it looks like we actually have one, two,

922
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,400
three TAM players in, well, I guess four if you count.

923
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,880
Ferrera, he's gotta be under a TAM contract,

924
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,600
I would imagine.

925
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,080
But Arreola, Yamar, Christian, and then Jordan,

926
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,840
of course moved up to a DP from TAM.

927
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,840
Yeah, I think you have that correct.

928
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,720
And the thing is though for the U22s,

929
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:20,800
if they're not making, I think it's about 250,000,

930
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,000
somewhere around there is that level.

931
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,840
If they're not making over that, then it doesn't,

932
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,560
you don't gain an advantage

933
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160
to putting them on that contract.

934
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,320
Like for example, Leo Chu was making 550,000.

935
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,880
And that's why using him as a U22 made a lot of sense.

936
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,360
Josh was making 350.

937
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,440
So yeah, so that's why he was a U22 because he was there.

938
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,400
Danny's making 235,

939
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,920
so that doesn't really make sense for him either.

940
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,800
And then Reed is making only 100,

941
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,200
Cody's making 89, seven, Castro,

942
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,040
they're all making the same.

943
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,160
Except for Stewart's only making 70,000, poor guy.

944
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,560
Yeah, right now as far as our U22 players,

945
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,120
this is as of last fall's roster release.

946
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,440
Georgie's making 89,000,

947
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,400
Josh Atensio obviously is gone,

948
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,440
Cody Baker's making 89,000,

949
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Danny Leiva's making 235,000.

950
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,160
So he's probably someone who would be a target for that.

951
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,560
Yeah, but it's 250, isn't it?

952
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,400
So it'd be-

953
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400
I think so, but it depends on how it might be,

954
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,720
there might be some budget relief,

955
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,360
especially if bonuses are involved.

956
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,200
I don't know what that was last season.

957
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,760
That's true, but his next year,

958
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,560
it looks like his contract is even though.

959
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,520
So he's not back loaded or anything,

960
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,640
which I don't even know if he can do in MLS,

961
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,600
but his contract next year is also 235.

962
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,600
But the reality is you may see Sounders give a early-

963
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,360
I mean, Reid Baker Whiting is in the last year

964
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,560
of his contract.

965
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,320
Paul Rothrock is in the last year of his contract.

966
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,160
You could see those players-

967
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,000
He's over 22, he's 25.

968
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Oh yeah, that's a good point.

969
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,960
He just came in young.

970
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,760
But Reid, they could sign into a U22

971
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
in order to lengthen that contract

972
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,200
because they would have to pay him more

973
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,160
than his current 100,000.

974
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,120
And we can extend Obed who's on 89,000.

975
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,120
So I wouldn't be surprised to see us doing Obed a solid

976
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,760
by raising his wage before-

977
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,120
Because he's also in the last year of his contract.

978
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Yeah, so I would expect Obed for sure U22

979
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:30,640
and then maybe Reid, depending on how he develops this year

980
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,280
and how much time he's getting,

981
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,440
because he is kind of a utility knife right now,

982
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,160
but we have so many players on our roster now

983
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,560
in those positions that it's gonna be a lot harder

984
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,400
for him to see minutes.

985
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,400
The one good thing is that he's not in the last year

986
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,120
to see minutes, the one good thing for players like that

987
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,800
and for Danny as well is I think we have so many tournaments

988
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,880
that it gives them a chance to get more minutes as well.

989
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,680
Well, keep in mind that Reid Baker-Whiting

990
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,680
was also on some lists for some of the top.

991
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,800
He was in the top players under 22 in MLS.

992
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,040
Yeah, but unfortunately he's got a little bit

993
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,200
of a run where he just can't get healthy

994
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,240
and so hopefully he can get that going.

995
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,920
I don't see that though as a real concern.

996
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,880
I mean, he did get hurt at the end of the season

997
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,840
and he came out with a little nick in pre-season,

998
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,640
but unless he consistently, that still happens.

999
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,320
I'm not worried about that just because it wasn't like

1000
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,360
he didn't recover from his injury or it's the same injury.

1001
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,960
I feel the same way about Pedro de la Vega, right?

1002
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,600
His injury that we had him for was unrelated.

1003
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,240
I do think they brought him back too quick,

1004
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,280
but was unrelated to his previous knee injury.

1005
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Oh no, but you still need playing time.

1006
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,080
You need consistency.

1007
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,640
Playing time wise, yes.

1008
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,680
Yeah, that's where I'm more concerned is just

1009
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,040
on that level, not that he's injury prone per se,

1010
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,920
because I don't get the sense that these are those kind

1011
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,840
of injuries, I just get a sense that it's a rough run

1012
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,760
and it could stunt his progress.

1013
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,440
Sure, sure, of course.

1014
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,480
So we got about 10 minutes left in the show,

1015
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,120
a little longer maybe, but let's switch over

1016
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,240
to Conker Calf Champions Cup, a name that, of course,

1017
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,640
I had said I hate.

1018
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,680
It doesn't make sense to me to change it away

1019
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,040
from the branding that you have in Europe

1020
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,480
when everyone knows Champions League.

1021
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,000
CCL, my friend.

1022
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,080
CCC just sounds weird.

1023
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,040
The only, I like CJC because that's me,

1024
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,400
but no CCC here.

1025
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,680
What do you think our chances are?

1026
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,120
Can we make a run?

1027
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Is it realistic?

1028
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,640
Yeah.

1029
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,440
I do.

1030
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,240
It's a tough, it could be a tough run, but what do you think?

1031
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,160
Again, we've got depth.

1032
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,800
Depth is going to be a huge, that's

1033
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,800
a huge part of this story.

1034
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,560
If we look back when we won Champions League in 2022,

1035
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,720
we would have midweek games going on.

1036
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,320
The Champions League games were often the midweek games.

1037
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,880
Then the weekend games, we'd be putting in our teenagers,

1038
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,400
that Austin game with all five teenagers,

1039
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,720
the teenagers and Raoul.

1040
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,920
That was due to Champions League.

1041
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Having this kind of roster flexibility,

1042
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,560
and the beautiful part about it is not just the fact

1043
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,760
that we have the roster flexibility,

1044
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,160
but the tactical flexibility.

1045
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,440
I think that's even more important

1046
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,760
because there will be times when we're going to want to bunker.

1047
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,000
There are going to be times where Paul Arreola will

1048
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,280
be a great option to start a game,

1049
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,560
whether it's the Champions League or the leagues play.

1050
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,960
It gives us a better opportunity to get points more consistently.

1051
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,960
I'm very, very excited about that.

1052
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,880
Our draw is not going to be easy.

1053
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,760
I see you got a lot of people.

1054
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,000
We're going to play Cruz Azul if we advance.

1055
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,080
They've already beaten Real Hope.

1056
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,880
Yeah.

1057
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,840
Then if we advance past that, we play the winner of

1058
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,160
Chivas Guadalajara in America.

1059
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:30,960
Yeah.

1060
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,320
Then we would have to play the winner of Galaxy

1061
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,280
versus the winner of T. Grace in the

1062
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,000
neither Montreal or Cincinnati.

1063
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:53,400
Well, the thing we remember is the fact that this is largely

1064
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:59,280
a group who have extensive Champions League experience.

1065
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,800
These are the kind of games that for love it or hate it,

1066
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,160
the dark arts always come into play.

1067
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,960
I think back to that New York City FC series and NYCFC just

1068
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,560
was not prepared for.

1069
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,200
Sorry, it's Montagua, not Montreal.

1070
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,360
Motagua.

1071
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Oh, Motagua.

1072
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:21,920
I apologize for that.

1073
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,440
Yeah.

1074
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:35,240
Yeah, I think we have just as good of an opportunity as any

1075
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:37,040
of the other MLS teams.

1076
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,040
I think so.

1077
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,400
I mean, the winner of LAFC Colorado will go on to play

1078
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:47,240
Columbus, and they're going to have to deal with Cavalry

1079
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:50,000
versus either Miami or SKC winner.

1080
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,480
And then, of course, Monterey has already gone through

1081
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,880
the perennial winner from Mexico, and they'll play the

1082
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,080
winner of Vancouver, Saprissa.

1083
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,080
And I actually don't even know who LDA is.

1084
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,080
And they're playing Pumas.

1085
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,680
And then, of course, let's not forget the Galaxy is in our

1086
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,680
bracket versus RSL.

1087
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,480
They play the winner of RSL versus I don't even know who

1088
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,480
CSH is too.

1089
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,480
Some of these teams.

1090
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,480
LDS, Alhawa.

1091
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Yeah.

1092
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,480
Oh, here at Rediano, Salt Lakes playing.

1093
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,480
Who's LDA?

1094
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,480
Alhawa and Costa Rica.

1095
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,480
Yeah, yeah.

1096
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,480
So they've made a few appearances.

1097
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Yeah.

1098
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,480
So yeah, it's going to be a fun run here.

1099
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,480
I do think we can make a run, but there's not a lot of room

1100
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,480
for error, right?

1101
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,480
So we're going to have to play our starters like we did last

1102
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,480
time, and then maybe it's going to hurt us in the MLS play.

1103
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,480
I'm OK with that.

1104
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,480
To trade off, I will take.

1105
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:58,480
But yeah, so as of right now, as of right now, yeah, Cruz Azul

1106
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,480
has moved on.

1107
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,480
As you said, Monterey has moved on.

1108
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:09,480
Pumas, they did officially move on.

1109
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Yeah, they did.

1110
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,480
Because they lost their first game.

1111
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,480
So it was still in doubt.

1112
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,480
So it was pretty interesting there.

1113
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,480
So can't wait.

1114
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,480
I love it.

1115
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,480
I love it.

1116
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,480
It's going to be fun.

1117
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,480
I mean, a week from today, right?

1118
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,480
Yeah.

1119
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,480
It will be the home match.

1120
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,480
The home match you're talking about.

1121
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,480
Tomorrow is the official match.

1122
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,480
So we, of course, are playing Antigua.

1123
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,480
What do you know about them?

1124
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,480
You know, when I think of Antigua, I think coffee.

1125
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,480
So yeah, I mean, it's Guatemala.

1126
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,480
The Antigua region is very known for their coffee for sure.

1127
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,480
I'm a little bit of a coffee geek.

1128
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,480
But this is, I believe, 9,000 people.

1129
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,480
That's the stadium we're going into.

1130
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,480
It's a stadium that holds 9,000 people.

1131
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:06,480
This is their second run at Champions League.

1132
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,480
So good for them.

1133
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,480
But I don't know much about them at all.

1134
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:24,480
So I feel like we should be able to go to Guatemala

1135
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:37,480
and control possession depending on what the field conditions are like.

1136
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:43,480
I think we'll dictate a lot of whether we go, how aggressive we go,

1137
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,480
especially with it being the first game of the year.

1138
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,480
You know, I think trusting your squad to,

1139
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,480
because the inverse will be true as well.

1140
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,480
Guatemala is going to have to travel to Seattle.

1141
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,480
Yeah.

1142
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:05,480
And our roster is designed in such a way

1143
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,480
where we have a lot of players who have played all over,

1144
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,480
even just the MLS players.

1145
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:19,480
The U.S. is such a vast landscape that just by natural there,

1146
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,480
you have a lot of things, a lot of things to be familiar with.

1147
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,480
I am not entirely sure.

1148
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,480
I suspect a lot of the Guatemala roster is local Guatemalan talent.

1149
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,480
Primarily.

1150
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,480
I think they only have five or six foreigners on their team.

1151
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:41,480
Yeah, a Costa Rican defender, a Venezuelan defender, Argentinian defender,

1152
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,480
Argentinian midfield, everyone else is Guatemala, Argentinian midfield,

1153
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,480
Romario from Brazil.

1154
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,480
I don't know if it's that Romario.

1155
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,480
34 years old.

1156
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,480
So yeah, it might be actually.

1157
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:58,480
Yeah, I mean, it is a Romario, but it's not the Romario de Souza, too,

1158
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,480
but not the Romario.

1159
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,480
No, no, no.

1160
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:06,480
He's from the Red Bull Salzburg Juniors who went on to play all over Brazil,

1161
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,480
including Fluminense, but not the big guy.

1162
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,480
OK, not that one.

1163
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,480
But yeah, so really.

1164
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,480
They do not have any national team appearances.

1165
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:21,480
So everyone on their roster is either from Guatemala, Argentina, or Brazil.

1166
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,480
So coming up to travel.

1167
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,480
They're second right now in their league.

1168
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,480
So they're playing well, but yeah, they're going to have to travel up here.

1169
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,480
Sounders let us know that Christian Hernandez is their attacking midfielder.

1170
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,480
He's the focal point of the team.

1171
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,480
So he's who to watch out for.

1172
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:49,480
Juan Appaulaza was their big winner signing coming out of Venezuela,

1173
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:55,480
and Jose Ardon is their big defender who has played 15,000 minutes in his career.

1174
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,480
So that's who to watch out for, for sure.

1175
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,480
I think it should be an interesting match, but I agree.

1176
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:10,480
Their highest valued player would be near the middle of our roster in terms of value.

1177
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,480
Yeah.

1178
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,480
So we'll see what's going to happen.

1179
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,480
I just want to get out of Guatemala healthy.

1180
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:31,480
And I would take a one goal loss, but healthy over a win and any kind of significant injury,

1181
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,480
anything that would miss more than one or two games.

1182
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:43,480
Right. And usually we wouldn't even talk about that, but we did have Jordan Morris himself back.

1183
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,480
Who was that again?

1184
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:49,480
Saprisa? No, no, Santa Tecla, I believe. Santa Tecla, that's right.

1185
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,480
Our old nemesis, Saprisa, who is in the tournament this year.

1186
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,480
For me, it's Olympia. It's always Olympia. Oh, Olympia also. Absolutely.

1187
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:08,480
But man, that roster had Alberto Liss on it. It had Rommel Quiro on it.

1188
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,480
I mean, that was a really good Olympia roster.

1189
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,480
That's always a player that I think is Japanese because I didn't realize how it was spelled.

1190
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,480
So I thought it was Kyoto, like the city in Japan.

1191
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,480
Even when he played for what, Houston?

1192
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,480
Yeah, he was the DP for Houston.

1193
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,480
Actually, I think both of them were DPs for Houston. I think both Calise and Kyoto were. Yeah.

1194
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:37,480
Yeah. And then that was the match where Brad Evans hit the penalty at the end and taunted the goalkeeper, right?

1195
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,480
Yeah. But keep in mind, you make it sound like he taunted the goalkeeper.

1196
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,480
The goalkeeper was trying to get in his head. Yeah, goalkeeper deserved it.

1197
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:53,480
Six minutes. Yeah. That is my rule number one for Sounders games of why you never leave a game early.

1198
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,480
That game right there. Yeah.

1199
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,480
That was frustrating because at least scored in the eighth minute, if I recall correctly.

1200
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:07,480
And then Olympia just went full Dark Arts and just faked injuries.

1201
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:15,480
And oh, that was such a frustrating game with such a beautiful, beautiful karmic ending.

1202
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,480
Yeah, I took the woman I was seeing at the time who had been to Sounders matches before.

1203
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:26,480
But that was like a really great one to take because I think it got her hooked. Yeah.

1204
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:32,480
Now we have a few minutes left here. I want to ask one more from the mailbag.

1205
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:39,480
Also noting we have other questions in the mailbag that we will get to because we do plan on recording another episode before the home opener this weekend.

1206
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:46,480
So this might be a two episode week for you if you're not a Patreon member, three if you are.

1207
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:53,480
This is a question that I think we're in a good position to answer, which is T-Mobile users getting free analyst pass for the season.

1208
01:00:53,480 --> 01:01:04,480
Does that mean that not enough people are subscribing to season pass or is this a great move from Apple to get more eyes on the league leading up to Club World Cup and World Cup 2026?

1209
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:09,480
This is not the first year they've done that. Last year you did not get it through T-Mobile, but the previous year you did.

1210
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:20,480
Correct. Correct. And before that, whatever the product was before Apple took over, I think MLS season pass.

1211
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:28,480
Yeah. That was also this is this is not unusual. Yeah. It's something that they offer as a member benefit.

1212
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:42,480
Exactly. T-Mobile will have free Hulu, free ESPN. So this is this is this doesn't necessarily speak towards any warning signs of the Apple TV deal and the numbers.

1213
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:52,480
I get both Hulu and Apple TV free through T-Mobile and and not I guess not MLS Cup since we got it through our season tickets.

1214
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:58,480
Also, I believe Xfinity is someone else is giving it out for free as well. I think I will I will eventually end up with three codes.

1215
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:07,480
I think the. What are they doing? Xfinity is doing something different. I don't think it's one of the other ones that I am a part of.

1216
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:13,480
I will have codes, though, because I read there was three different places that I had I got. Hey, hey, you're all Sounders fans.

1217
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,480
You're all geeks. If you have access to multiple codes, get the codes and give them to your friends.

1218
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:24,480
Give them to, you know, give them to come on into Discord and go, hey, who needs a code?

1219
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:32,480
You know, look out for each other. You know, my second code is going to my parents and the third will probably go to Mr.

1220
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,480
Mollett, himself, Aaron Lingley, who I believe made it to San Diego.

1221
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,480
We haven't heard an update since they were snowed into Portland.

1222
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:51,480
Yeah, yeah. So I'm sure he's in warm, sunny San Diego just in time for the San Diego FCC season to start.

1223
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:57,480
A little jealous, little jealous. I could use some some some warm weather. I'll tell you.

1224
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:05,480
I subbed on a Boba Sea for L.A.F.C. What a to be able to sub him on for Zharoud is such a flex.

1225
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:12,480
Crazy. Yeah, like it's like when they had Lateef Blessing as a sub.

1226
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:18,480
It's just wild. But at the same time, I mean, it's we're in that position.

1227
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,480
Yeah, we're going to we're going to be able to bring on.

1228
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,480
I think we're going to bring on a super viola as a super sub.

1229
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:36,480
They're going to be days where probably one of Jordan.

1230
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:47,480
Yeah, what she said, they're going to be days in which we are probably going to sub on in the sixty fifth minute one of Jordan Morris,

1231
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:54,480
at only three times, and I think I read a paper that read the paper about like

1232
01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:13,380
a

1233
01:04:13,380 --> 01:04:18,180
five at the back, because you have three center backs, the two wing backs.

1234
01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:22,380
But it had two center defensive mids and two center attacking mids.

1235
01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:26,020
And then of course Jordan up top for that first match, which means you could

1236
01:04:26,020 --> 01:04:27,420
potentially have Pedro and

1237
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:34,260
Jesus Ferreira playing right behind Jordan, which would be a fascinating thing to have.

1238
01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:38,460
Which means those wingers are going to have to really track forward and

1239
01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:40,340
track back if that's gonna be the case.

1240
01:04:40,340 --> 01:04:42,500
Otherwise, we're playing a whole new ballgame.

1241
01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:44,540
We're not going into the wings like we used to.

1242
01:04:44,540 --> 01:04:45,340
Well, you're absolutely right.

1243
01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:48,940
But the other thing to keep in mind though is, well,

1244
01:04:48,940 --> 01:04:51,900
one Albert Rusnak will travel to Guatemala.

1245
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:52,900
Yeah, he has, he's on the plane.

1246
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:55,140
I don't anticipate he'll play.

1247
01:04:55,140 --> 01:05:06,140
But what's really interesting to me is with this lineup flexibility is that

1248
01:05:06,140 --> 01:05:13,060
I know we have had one of the best defenses in the league over the last,

1249
01:05:13,060 --> 01:05:17,220
basically since Schmetzer has been a coach really.

1250
01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:21,220
But in particular, we've been top three the last few years.

1251
01:05:21,220 --> 01:05:26,180
I expect to let in a few more goals, not because our defense is going to get worse.

1252
01:05:26,180 --> 01:05:29,660
But I think we're going to prioritize attacking play.

1253
01:05:29,660 --> 01:05:32,380
And when you look at how we are looking in the preseason,

1254
01:05:32,380 --> 01:05:35,980
looking at our attacking options, that's exactly it.

1255
01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:43,700
We may be, and I know you're, I'm already cringing at,

1256
01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:46,100
I bet you can guess where I'm going with this.

1257
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:49,300
I'm already cringing at you attacking New Hoo,

1258
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:50,620
because I know they're going to be tied.

1259
01:05:50,620 --> 01:05:52,340
Oh my God, did Colorado just pop a second?

1260
01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:53,340
They did.

1261
01:05:53,340 --> 01:05:54,340
It's Mihailovic again.

1262
01:05:54,340 --> 01:05:55,700
Mihailovic on the free kick.

1263
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:58,860
No, see, New Hoo playing center back is what I'm into.

1264
01:05:58,860 --> 01:06:02,340
Like if you put him at center back, he can't travel up that far.

1265
01:06:02,340 --> 01:06:04,900
And that's going to make our defense even stronger, in my opinion.

1266
01:06:04,900 --> 01:06:11,420
Like I said, New Hoo is one of the best defenders in the league when he's playing defense.

1267
01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:13,420
So put him back there.

1268
01:06:13,420 --> 01:06:16,180
It makes our defense stronger and potentially even better.

1269
01:06:16,180 --> 01:06:17,980
What a beautiful free kick.

1270
01:06:17,980 --> 01:06:23,820
And I mean, you're beating Hugo Luis on a free kick.

1271
01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:29,460
That's just, that could have happened to a better team now.

1272
01:06:29,460 --> 01:06:32,020
Colorado just needs to hold this lead.

1273
01:06:32,020 --> 01:06:35,980
You cannot let LAFC pull one back.

1274
01:06:35,980 --> 01:06:37,780
You got to take that lead.

1275
01:06:37,780 --> 01:06:38,780
Got to take that lead.

1276
01:06:38,780 --> 01:06:42,380
You got to hold on to it.

1277
01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:43,380
Question?

1278
01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:45,180
I think our defense will be strong.

1279
01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:47,300
I think it'll just depend if they get enough help.

1280
01:06:47,300 --> 01:06:48,300
Yeah.

1281
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:49,300
Yeah.

1282
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:54,140
Because you'll need it versus a Buanga or some of these other Gabriel Peck type players

1283
01:06:54,140 --> 01:06:56,980
that can just run all over us.

1284
01:06:56,980 --> 01:06:59,500
And so we'll see how that goes.

1285
01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:03,260
It can be really, really interesting.

1286
01:07:03,260 --> 01:07:05,980
I love that flexibility that we've got.

1287
01:07:05,980 --> 01:07:14,900
And I'm very curious to see if we can continue that really nice run of offense in the preseason.

1288
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:17,940
Yeah, it looked good.

1289
01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:20,100
I love Pedro just looking.

1290
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:24,980
I mean, oh, you weren't able to attend last Wednesday, were you?

1291
01:07:24,980 --> 01:07:29,060
No, I was leaving the day before and Roma was not feeling great.

1292
01:07:29,060 --> 01:07:31,180
So I was not able to make it.

1293
01:07:31,180 --> 01:07:36,620
So we did go down and I posted some pictures and Jerry livestreamed from Alliance Council.

1294
01:07:36,620 --> 01:07:40,780
And so I put that up for all of our Discord members to see.

1295
01:07:40,780 --> 01:07:44,980
But Pedro was unbelievable.

1296
01:07:44,980 --> 01:07:48,420
He looked even better than he had in the past.

1297
01:07:48,420 --> 01:07:51,500
Fully fit, wanted the ball.

1298
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:54,760
He's not feeling pressure in the sense that it's too much for him.

1299
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,380
He's feeling pressure in the sense that he's going to go out there and perform because

1300
01:07:57,380 --> 01:07:58,780
he has no other choice.

1301
01:07:58,780 --> 01:07:59,940
And it's incredible.

1302
01:07:59,940 --> 01:08:02,620
I fully expect him to be the star player this year.

1303
01:08:02,620 --> 01:08:13,300
But when you've got De La Vega, Jesus, Morris all on the field at the same time, that's

1304
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:15,140
pretty damn good.

1305
01:08:15,140 --> 01:08:17,420
But that's definitely some dangers.

1306
01:08:17,420 --> 01:08:20,580
And it's dangerous in different ways.

1307
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:23,220
So and that's not even talking about Rusnak.

1308
01:08:23,220 --> 01:08:27,420
You know, it's not even talking about Paul Rothrock, Mnungu.

1309
01:08:27,420 --> 01:08:36,020
You know, it just it gives us so many different ways we can attack.

1310
01:08:36,020 --> 01:08:42,700
And that's what I'm most excited to see is just how that shapes out.

1311
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:43,700
Yeah.

1312
01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:44,700
Yeah.

1313
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:47,180
So I think that's a good place to leave it for this episode, don't you?

1314
01:08:47,180 --> 01:08:48,180
I do.

1315
01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:49,180
I do.

1316
01:08:49,180 --> 01:08:50,180
So any predictions?

1317
01:08:50,180 --> 01:08:51,180
What are we going to see tomorrow?

1318
01:08:51,180 --> 01:08:54,260
You know, I think two things.

1319
01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:55,300
Sorry.

1320
01:08:55,300 --> 01:08:57,180
Let me frame that a little differently.

1321
01:08:57,180 --> 01:09:03,180
One, do you think we're going to see a three, five, two or four, two, three, one?

1322
01:09:03,180 --> 01:09:04,180
Three, five, two.

1323
01:09:04,180 --> 01:09:07,540
No, three, six, one.

1324
01:09:07,540 --> 01:09:08,540
Everyone to put it.

1325
01:09:08,540 --> 01:09:09,540
We're going to have five at the back.

1326
01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:12,060
We're going to have three center backs, two wing backs.

1327
01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:14,740
And then I don't know how they'll do the midfield.

1328
01:09:14,740 --> 01:09:16,940
I think I don't know if it'll be.

1329
01:09:16,940 --> 01:09:18,740
I think we'll have two center defensive mids.

1330
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:24,340
I could see us having right mid and left mid despite having those wing backs and letting

1331
01:09:24,340 --> 01:09:25,340
them overlap.

1332
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:26,340
Yeah.

1333
01:09:26,340 --> 01:09:30,420
I don't think we would if we had four at the back, but I could also see that not happening.

1334
01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:34,300
But I do expect us to have five defenders in the match.

1335
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:35,300
Okay.

1336
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:38,660
And then what's your final score?

1337
01:09:38,660 --> 01:09:41,020
I'm going to say one, nothing sounders.

1338
01:09:41,020 --> 01:09:43,060
I think we can pull out a goal.

1339
01:09:43,060 --> 01:09:47,700
And then I think if we do, we won't necessarily need to push anymore after that.

1340
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:52,340
So we can slow it down a bit and focus on not giving up a goal.

1341
01:09:52,340 --> 01:09:57,220
So do you think Antigua will be happy with just one being down one, nothing, or do you

1342
01:09:57,220 --> 01:10:00,820
think they're going to try and push it home and that'll open up a counter and make it

1343
01:10:00,820 --> 01:10:02,380
two?

1344
01:10:02,380 --> 01:10:03,380
I think it could.

1345
01:10:03,380 --> 01:10:08,220
I don't know if we'll take advantage of it because I think Schmitzer will be risk adverse

1346
01:10:08,220 --> 01:10:11,180
so early in the season, but we'll see.

1347
01:10:11,180 --> 01:10:13,020
We definitely could get that second goal and go for two.

1348
01:10:13,020 --> 01:10:18,100
I would just hope that we come out of there for our fans sake, especially our discourse

1349
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:19,100
sake.

1350
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:21,780
I hope we come out of there with at least one goal because even though I think you and

1351
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:27,620
I would both be happy with a zero zero draw, I think there's people that would be upset

1352
01:10:27,620 --> 01:10:33,100
with that despite it being actually a good result.

1353
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,940
Data analytics, it's one of my favorite things.

1354
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:47,660
And going outside of the region to play a game is such a challenge in and of itself

1355
01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:55,100
that if you're not allowing any goals and getting out of there with the point that puts

1356
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:57,260
the ball in your court literally.

1357
01:10:57,260 --> 01:10:58,260
Yep.

1358
01:10:58,260 --> 01:10:59,260
Absolutely.

1359
01:10:59,260 --> 01:11:02,260
So what are you thinking?

1360
01:11:02,260 --> 01:11:05,260
I'm not going to lie.

1361
01:11:05,260 --> 01:11:09,460
I think this team's got some swagger right now.

1362
01:11:09,460 --> 01:11:18,420
And I think they're excited to showcase that and I got a feeling that they're going to

1363
01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:20,020
cook a little bit.

1364
01:11:20,020 --> 01:11:33,260
I think this might be a three nothing or if Antigua gets one, it'll be kind of a weird

1365
01:11:33,260 --> 01:11:34,260
circumstance.

1366
01:11:34,260 --> 01:11:40,700
But I have a feeling that the score line is not going to reflect the disparity on the

1367
01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:41,700
actual field.

1368
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:46,380
I think we're going to comfortably win, but I think it's also going to be one where we're

1369
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:49,260
going, oh, we could have had another two, three goals.

1370
01:11:49,260 --> 01:11:50,260
Yeah.

1371
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:54,940
I do think if we win three nothing, we potentially could see the same starters on the weekend

1372
01:11:54,940 --> 01:11:58,020
since it's the start of the season.

1373
01:11:58,020 --> 01:12:02,060
And so we actually play well in the MLS match and then put in more of our quote unquote

1374
01:12:02,060 --> 01:12:07,180
backup, some of them also starters in the match next Wednesday because we won't need

1375
01:12:07,180 --> 01:12:08,180
as many goals.

1376
01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:10,180
I said it last week, man.

1377
01:12:10,180 --> 01:12:18,580
This year, as long as we could stay a little bit healthy, is going to be really interesting

1378
01:12:18,580 --> 01:12:21,220
to see.

1379
01:12:21,220 --> 01:12:29,440
This is going to be the year in which we could see a very demonstrable, oh, that's a decision

1380
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:32,480
Brian Schmitzer is making because some of the l.a.

1381
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:33,480
FSA just pulled one back.

1382
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:36,340
And of course they did.

1383
01:12:36,340 --> 01:12:37,340
Of course they did.

1384
01:12:37,340 --> 01:12:38,340
Aaron Long.

1385
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:39,340
Homer Sounder.

1386
01:12:39,340 --> 01:12:46,700
Late goal off of a Bawanga cross.

1387
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:47,700
That may be offside.

1388
01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:50,340
That may be coming back.

1389
01:12:50,340 --> 01:12:51,340
We'll see.

1390
01:12:51,340 --> 01:12:53,740
It's close either way.

1391
01:12:53,740 --> 01:13:05,500
Finally shout out to Alex Diaz, to Tim Hamilton slash muffin top model, to Cedar and everyone

1392
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:10,460
else that got questions in our scuttle.

1393
01:13:10,460 --> 01:13:13,780
You can hear people commenting on that goal right there.

1394
01:13:13,780 --> 01:13:18,700
Yeah, it looks like there's no VAR.

1395
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:19,700
Is that right?

1396
01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:20,700
Do we remember correctly?

1397
01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:29,420
I know League's Cup did not.

1398
01:13:29,420 --> 01:13:31,900
They're holding it right now, though, so they haven't kicked it off.

1399
01:13:31,900 --> 01:13:34,740
So potentially they are looking at it right now.

1400
01:13:34,740 --> 01:13:39,020
I think the question is going to be, was he interfering with the vision of the goalkeeper,

1401
01:13:39,020 --> 01:13:40,580
which I think he is.

1402
01:13:40,580 --> 01:13:41,580
He's right.

1403
01:13:41,580 --> 01:13:42,580
He is.

1404
01:13:42,580 --> 01:13:44,580
And the defender, too.

1405
01:13:44,580 --> 01:13:45,580
Yeah.

1406
01:13:45,580 --> 01:13:47,860
Yeah, that's offsides, I think, in my opinion.

1407
01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:54,420
I don't know if they'll call it.

1408
01:13:54,420 --> 01:13:56,420
He gave him the goal.

1409
01:13:56,420 --> 01:13:57,420
Okay.

1410
01:13:57,420 --> 01:13:58,420
Okay.

1411
01:13:58,420 --> 01:13:59,980
Well, I got no skin in the game.

1412
01:13:59,980 --> 01:14:02,980
It doesn't matter.

1413
01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:04,620
Okay.

1414
01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:06,060
So why don't we call it a...

1415
01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:08,940
Do we have anything else in the mailbag we want to touch base on on this episode?

1416
01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:14,980
I think we'll call it there and get on to recording our Patreon only episode.

1417
01:14:14,980 --> 01:14:16,460
Where can they find you on the internet?

1418
01:14:16,460 --> 01:14:23,460
Hey, come on out to Instagram at Cascades2C.

1419
01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:26,620
Cascades2C on Instagram.

1420
01:14:26,620 --> 01:14:32,540
I don't really use Twitter much anymore, but it is Nikita Banana.

1421
01:14:32,540 --> 01:14:33,540
And what about you?

1422
01:14:33,540 --> 01:14:39,300
Yeah, you can get me at legal minded punk on all of them.

1423
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:40,900
There you go.

1424
01:14:40,900 --> 01:14:43,500
And Aaron at Aaron Lingley.

1425
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:47,660
So we'll get Aaron a little shout out there.

1426
01:14:47,660 --> 01:14:53,580
Yeah, he's doing well down there in San Diego.

1427
01:14:53,580 --> 01:14:55,220
All right.

1428
01:14:55,220 --> 01:14:58,300
Well, everyone, welcome to the regular season.

1429
01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:04,020
Not the regular season, but welcome to the season, I guess I should say.

1430
01:15:04,020 --> 01:15:05,020
We're here.

1431
01:15:05,020 --> 01:15:06,020
It's tomorrow.

1432
01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:07,020
Let's do this.

1433
01:15:07,020 --> 01:15:09,260
24 hours from now, we're going to have a result.

1434
01:15:09,260 --> 01:15:10,900
Yep, that's true.

1435
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:13,220
Okay, James, take it away.

1436
01:15:13,220 --> 01:15:14,220
Okay.

1437
01:15:14,220 --> 01:15:22,180
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1438
01:15:22,180 --> 01:15:27,340
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1439
01:15:27,340 --> 01:15:32,220
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1440
01:15:32,220 --> 01:15:37,140
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1441
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:40,940
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1442
01:15:40,940 --> 01:15:46,180
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1443
01:15:46,180 --> 01:15:48,700
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1444
01:15:48,700 --> 01:16:14,180
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