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He's a tough kid.

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All I gotta say is Portmanteca is a genius.

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It's sensational.

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It's sensational.

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It's Seattle South FC soccer.

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Welcome to Sounders, Scuttlebutt, the ultimate podcast.

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For everything rave green.

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I'm your host, Aaron Lingley, and I'm joined by two incredible voices in the Sounders community,

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Alliance Council Secretary Cameron Collins.

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Hello.

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That's me.

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And the one and only Alliance Council extraordinaire, Nicholas Biella.

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Why, hello there.

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All right.

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Well, we're here to break down all your Sounders mumbo jumbo game analysis, of course, and

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the Scuttlebutt.

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That's why we are we are Scuttlebutt.

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So if you want to be part of the show, join our supporters section on Patreon that supports

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us literally.

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That goes right to hosting all the jazz behind the scenes.

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And I really do appreciate it.

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So I want to say thank you to our supporters in there.

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What who do we have?

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We got a new one.

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Daniel P. Thank you, Daniel, for joining Alex D, James C, Pat C and Cedar.

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And of course, you Cameron.

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Yeah, me.

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And then you can always join our discord.

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That is where we pull the Scuttlebutt.

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We have some great channels in there.

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I think they're called channels, right?

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That you set up, Cameron.

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You guys are always active.

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I am not as active, at least recently.

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Should I drop the news?

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I think so.

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I think before you drop the news, we need some alcohol for this.

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So whoa, you did not even wait.

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That's like, oh, you are drinking alcohol.

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I've been reading a lot of Irish history lately about how my relatives were genocided during

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the potato famine and stuff like that.

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So drinking some Guinness.

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Good job.

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Back to the paps.

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Back to back paps.

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I'm getting ready for my tournament.

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I'm actually wearing one of my pond hockey sweaters.

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Oh, that's right.

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You got your attorney.

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And it's still January, so no alcohol for you, Aaron.

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Or is that off because of your big investment?

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Well, yeah.

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So I broke the streak of not drinking last week.

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Understandable.

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It is hard for alcoholics not to drink.

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No, I accepted a job in San Diego, La Jolla to be exact.

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I need a drink because I'm going to miss you.

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Well, I need a drink because I'm going to miss you guys.

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I mean, we'll still see you on the internet.

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Yeah, we'll still do this.

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This is not affecting everyone, everyone who is pulled over because they're freaking out

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because they're listening to this in the car.

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Because Scuttlebutt will survive.

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I will still be on it.

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Nothing is changing thanks to the technology of 2025.

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We already do this virtually.

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So, yeah, nothing's stopping.

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It's important because we may be number two Sounders podcast in terms of numbers and downloads,

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but I think we're number one in the people's hearts.

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Absolutely.

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So yeah, that's happening fucking a week from Saturday.

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So I will see you both at the public presale party.

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It's just insane, dude.

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That's so fast.

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Yeah, they needed me on the third.

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And I mean, like I said, it's a job opportunity.

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Is your family going down later?

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Are you going down early?

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Yeah, I'm going solo.

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I will be back on the 13th because the evening of the 13th, Margo, her first birthday is

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Valentine's Day.

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So I'm not missing that and they totally understood.

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So I'll be flying.

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Plus I'm like living at the, well, everyone knows that listens to the show regularly that

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I'll be staying at the hotel for pretty much until I find an apartment.

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I'll be doing the scouting.

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I got everything planned already.

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Hotels are cool too.

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I mean, yeah, I just, once I start working, like the weekend that I'm there, I'm not working,

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right?

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So I'll be just be with the rental car and I'll be, excuse me, going all over San Diego.

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But once I start working, I don't know if I want to keep sleeping there just because

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I'm now I'm your boss.

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But anyway, that's just gets awkward.

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So that's crazy.

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They're moving.

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So we'll be living pretty lean.

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I'll probably be going to Ikea and shit.

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You're leaving Winnie behind?

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So when I come back on the 14th, I'll be leaving on the 15th in the morning with Winnie behind

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me and hook our cat in the back, right passenger seat, still trying to figure out the best

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little system for him.

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Like a little portable cat box on the floor, some drugs, you go to the vet, get some drugs.

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That's the only way that cats making it that far.

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That's true.

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That's not a bad idea.

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I'll be stopping in Redding.

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There's actually a really nice like little hotel and it's really highly rated.

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That was like 120 bucks that accepts cats.

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So I'm guessing Redding is generally the stop for people relocating.

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Yeah, it's good halfway mark.

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Yeah, it'll be about nine hours.

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It's nice you get to stay on I-5 the whole way instead of like going to San Jose.

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We have to cut in.

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Nick, I'm sure.

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Do you ever do that drive?

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I did.

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I've done both five and I took the 101 all the way down.

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I did not do that, but I did do five to 505 to 80 to 680 to 880 to whatever.

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No, no, no, no.

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The five.

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No, no, we will be calling it I-5.

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We will not accept that slander.

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You're not becoming an LA FC fan or an LA Galaxy fan.

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Or a San Diego FC fan?

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You get a San Diego FC fan as long as you root for the Sounders first.

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I'm actually pretty stoked about that.

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They'll be moving there just before the season starts for them and Snapdragon.

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I mean, San Diego is pretty easy to get around.

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It's a pretty small, big city, right?

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And Snapdragon is pretty much downtown.

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So anywhere we pick to live will be pretty close to that.

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So I'll definitely, absolutely go into the, when Sounders go there.

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But anyway, yeah, I'll probably come up once every few months, especially over the summer

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because that's going to be hard for me to be apart from PNW summer.

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Born and raised here.

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It's surreal.

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I'm going to get it.

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year round.

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I mean, it's not like it's going to be a hundred degrees there.

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It's going to be 80 degrees with a nice windy breeze like it is here.

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That's, I mean, I had family in Mission Valley, so I'd go to San Diego like growing up about

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a week or two at a time.

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And I just loved La Jolla, loved San Diego.

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So much to do for the girls too.

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Every apartment community has a pool and like a fitness center and like all that jazz.

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So SeaWorld is still there.

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You can go see Shamu murder the attendance.

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I don't think that was Shamu.

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No it wasn't.

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It starts with a K. I get my blankie on the name.

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I'm on the fence about SeaWorld.

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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of SeaWorld.

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You ever saw the black fish?

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But it wasn't Shamu.

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I think it's Shamu's grandkid that was the one that did that.

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Zoos.

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be endangered.

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I mean, at the same time.

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And both San Diego and Seattle both kind of revolutionized the idea of creating natural

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habitats for the animals in there and really kind of redefining versus what you traditionally

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would think of as a zoo, which is just animal cage.

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There you go.

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Especially San Diego Zoo because it's huge.

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Yeah, it's huge.

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And the one time I went, I've probably been there more than once, but I got to see peacocks,

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which was pretty crazy.

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Peacocks walk around Woodland Park.

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It's fun when they scare the shit out of people that are unsuspected.

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I went to one in Paris.

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Maybe it was in Stuttgart.

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It was when I was living in Paris and I saw giant king penguins and that was cool.

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That's cool.

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They're like three feet tall.

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So anyway, yeah, that's the news.

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Aaron is moving.

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So if you are a pub leaguer and you're listening and you're going to be at our spot on Saturday,

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come give me a goodbye hug.

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Yeah, I got, I got a question for you.

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How was my intro?

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Good.

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You don't sound sick anymore.

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That's true.

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And I figured reading would be better.

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And I was like, you know what?

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Chat GBT.

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Here's the prompt.

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And it worked.

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And it was pretty good.

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Yeah, sure.

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That was the first try.

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I mean, they had to burn down an entire force in the Amazon in order to create the energy

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for it to write you that paragraph.

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But that's okay.

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I actually was just at an event at Seattle University put on by the department.

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I used to teach in which was arts leadership department and the department that I now teach

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in which is the sports and entertainment master's program that was entertainment evolved a conference

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on the business of entertainment.

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And there was a discussion on AI's impact and content creation, distribution and stuff

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like that.

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It was kind of fascinating and how here, you know, it's largely frowned upon.

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This was actually an audience member, but the professor who was leading the talk brought

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them into the conversation for a second, because we think about it like they're using AI usually

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in Hollywood in order to not have to pay actors.

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I mean, that's part of the reason why the strike went on recently, right?

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Like this stuff's happening.

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But there's an AI film festival coming up in March, which I'm not sure I feel about.

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But what I did find interesting was they someone emailed the guy putting it together because

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they didn't ask for a free entry because they couldn't afford it.

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And it's because they're from Iran and they can't have a bank account to give money to

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anyone in the United States because it's frozen.

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Like they can't transfer money that way.

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And actually, that's how they make films there with AI because every camera and microphone

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you buy would be tracked.

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And so the only way you can make content that would be of a dissident sort would be to use

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AI because that's not tracked, at least not right now.

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So that was a pretty fascinating discussion.

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That is interesting.

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Nicholas, you and I just prior to Christmas attended a Rick and Morty themed musical.

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We did.

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What was that?

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We did.

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Back to the future, the musical.

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So last night, and let's have you talk into your microphone.

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I know you got your new setup, but when you turn away, we don't get to hear your robust

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awesomeness.

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Good to know I'm kind of dialing in that sweet spot with the new setup.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So last night, frequent contributor to the show, Dan Boniface, and father of future

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Seattle sounder Beckham Boniface, attended and then wrote an article for the Denver Gazette

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entitled Back to the Future, the Musical Comes to Denver Unlocks Nostalgia for This Superfan.

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So we'll be sure to share that in the show notes here because it's pretty cool little

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read.

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He critiques some of the changes, which we won't talk about too much, but obviously there

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were some changes from the original story that he and I had a discussion about when

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he got off last night.

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Because I think there's some things that don't make sense to modern audiences.

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No.

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Like what's a Libyan.

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I gotta say, that's pretty impressive considering we're on the same path there.

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I had written articles for a local newspaper in Denver as well during my time when I was

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living there.

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So the DU clarion.

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So kids going somewhere.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the Denver Gazette is nice because unlike the Denver Post, they're owned by a

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billionaire.

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They're owned by the LA Galaxy owner.

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So they can put articles in that maybe others can't because they're allowed to be more creative

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instead of just trying to get only clicks.

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Good times.

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For sure.

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Yeah.

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I got something I've been doing that's sounder related.

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Okay.

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Well, sounder specific.

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Actually, I'm almost done reading.

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A book?

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Sound and Glory.

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Matt Pence's book.

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Matt Pence.

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Yeah.

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And it's good, man.

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Oh yeah.

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I've been flowing through it.

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You gave it to me like a year ago.

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It's been in my, I haven't read.

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I've been taking the bus.

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My dad, we ran into Matt.

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My dad was with me and we ran into Matt Pence in an elevator on the way to when they unveiled

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the Sounders nightfall jerseys at what was the Jersey sponsor place called?

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They sold mainly women's and babies clothes.

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But no, they were on the front of the sponsor.

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They were sponsored.

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Oh, Zulily.

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Zulily.

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Okay.

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So we were going, you were there, Nicholas, right?

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When we went to Zulily.

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Yeah.

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And we ran into Matt Pence and my dad was super stoked because he loved that book.

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Yeah.

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He did a really good job.

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And I was thinking, I don't know, maybe, well, first off, did you apologize when you ran

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into him?

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We did not fist bump him.

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But it'd be good to have him on the show.

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That'd be a good Patreon episode actually.

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Yeah, definitely.

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I'm not sure where Matt is now.

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I feel like he is elsewhere, but definitely worth tracking him down because obviously

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he could talk a lot about that and we're always happy to.

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Oh, he works.

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He works for the athletic now.

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Yeah.

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So it's good to have him on, just talk about his book because maybe he'll send more copies.

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And if you haven't read it yet, I mean, we'll be corporate shows.

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Go out and buy it because it's pretty awesome.

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Speaking of the Nightfall Jersey, have you seen the leak of the LA Galaxy Away Kit?

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Because honestly, that one looks to me very much like what the original concept behind

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our Nightfall Kit was going to be.

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And it makes me wonder if Adidas just basically files some of that stuff away for, okay, we're

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going to revisit this idea.

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Yeah, because it's not like the design.

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We had that design, but it definitely is in the vein of what it should have been, could

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have been.

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And actually, I have it up.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Screen the share.

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I shall do that.

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And editors note, Matt Pence is not with the athletic anymore.

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It looks like he's not even in writing anymore.

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I mean, he's probably sure on freelance.

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He's a consultant somewhere.

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I saw on his LinkedIn if it's up to date, but not somewhere that I've actually heard

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of.

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But shout out to Matt.

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You guys should ping him.

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Yeah, I will for sure.

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Anyway, so yeah, share your screen.

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I want to see what you're talking about.

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Did you guys put it in Discord?

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Has it been discussed?

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No.

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Not yet.

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So basically, it was a sunset on the beach.

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So yeah, I mean, I think it's like a modern...

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Just as what it would have been in modern time versus the more chunky straight up black

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and pink colors we got.

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Multiple pinks.

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For sure.

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There's my SoCal.

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For sure.

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For sure, bro.

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But yeah, as of right now, 18 kits have been leaked.

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The Sounders are not one of those 18.

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I'm impressed.

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I'm glad.

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Let's keep it that way.

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Yeah.

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I mean, Sounders have been pretty good about keeping things under wraps for the most part.

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And so we'll see how that goes.

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There's release date.

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But I'm looking forward to it.

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Look at this.

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This is a completely different, but it's an Inter Milan kit.

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This is someone saw it and then made their own version based on the recollection.

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But this is the leaked Inter Milan kit, which is interesting.

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It looks like a pharmacy, like a European pharmacy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's in the green pluses.

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That's a weed.

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So I don't know if you guys heard me or if you're just ignoring me, but you guys don't

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know when is the Sounders kit release date.

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Should be mid February.

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Yeah, mid to late February.

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It's whenever the league does their Jersey week.

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And we're usually one of the last to do it during Jersey week.

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This is a really ugly away shirt that New England Revolution had.

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It's a white t-shirt with red accents.

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The white t-shirt.

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And typically what happens is MLS tries to coordinate them all to happen at the same

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time.

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And they usually give about a three day window where they will stagger the releases within

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that three day window.

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And ours is about leaked before by not FIFA, what's EA24, whatever it's called.

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So here's all the leaks if you want to see them together.

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And some are all right, some are normal and some are what the hell.

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Well, the San Jose earthquakes one looks very much like a 12 year old boy, the front of

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his high school notebook, complete with the S that everyone would draw.

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The Stussy S. Yeah, the Stussy S is on the Jersey.

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Is it really?

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It's bad.

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It really is.

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I mean, it's not worse than the LAFC one though, the white t-shirt with the gold, but I haven't

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seen it.

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I don't know.

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I am jealous of black and gold Portland Jersey.

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I've always wanted to do black and gold.

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I thought LAO, is it green?

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Oh, okay.

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Nevermind.

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It just looks black on my screen.

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I like how they don't have ours.

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So they said, this is their logo, so it probably looks like this.

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I'm trying to find the San Jose one up close, but they have not seen it.

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It's bad.

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Oh man.

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I think we posted it.

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Oh, there it is.

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See, right there under the crest.

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Under the crest is the Stussy S.

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I might get sued for that.

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I love the idea behind it.

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I don't know if the execution is great.

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I like the old Quakes logo on it that looks like an earthquake.

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Of course, shout out to the 408, which is still my area code from when I lived down

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there.

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But yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about that.

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I'm not a big fan.

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I like that it's not a t-shirt like the-

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Yeah, and maybe it looks better in person.

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Some of those look better in person.

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I mean, it looks like that we got templates.

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This is, look at the Nashville one.

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It's Michigan blue and gold, or yellow, but it's the same as the LA, well, it's the same

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as the St. Louis one, but with different colors.

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It's the same as LA, FC.

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So yeah, a lot of people are just getting template kits.

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That sucks for them.

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Yep, sure does.

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And I know you guys know ours.

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Do you like ours this year?

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I do.

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Yep.

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I do.

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I put it on par with Austin is the best too.

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I'm a fan of Austin.

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And I think the LA Galaxy one is up there.

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Honestly, I like the LA Galaxy.

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I can't give it to the Atlanta one, the red and black stripe.

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It's their normal kit with just subtle differences.

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So the San Diego one's boring.

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Oh, these are all the carried over.

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Kansas City one's boring.

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The Kansas City one's boring.

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The Minnesota one's intriguing with the clouds.

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But as a whole-

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Because you know they have clouds in Minnesota.

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Oh, they do?

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Yeah.

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That's good to know.

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That's pretty.

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I mean, it looks more like a public attempt, the Minnesota one.

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But anyways, none of these are anything close to public.

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These are things that we really shouldn't really be talking about on a podcast when

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it's a visual medium right now.

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That's true, but people-

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But here's the thing-

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Well, the link is in the show description.

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Open the link in the show description and they can pull it up while they're listening

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to us talk.

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While they're driving.

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And we'll post the photos into the Discord as well to keep the conversation going.

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We could also one day do a slideshow that we attach to the show so it goes on YouTube

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and is available on certain podcasting apps.

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I do that with another podcast I listen to.

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I can pull it up and watch what they're talking about.

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But hey-

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We'll do a video one day.

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It's also silly season right now.

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We've got a lot of transfers coming in these last few weeks.

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Charlotte, man.

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Charlotte doing it up.

489
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You don't have to comment on that.

490
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You know what I'm talking about?

491
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I don't know what's going on.

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Tell me.

493
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I've been busy.

494
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I'm not sure.

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I know they sent one of their-

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Let me get the actual-

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Swiderski.

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The actual, yeah, Swiderski with the Pantheonocos?

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But they are bringing in a big time player from Europe, Wilfred Zaha, former Man United

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star.

501
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Oh, wow.

502
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Yeah.

503
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So I haven't seen the latest news on it.

504
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,640
Yep, they confirmed the signing of the game.

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They're going to be doing a live stream of the game.

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So we're going to have a live stream of the game.

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They're going to be doing a live stream of the game.

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So I haven't seen the latest news on it.

509
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,640
Yep, they confirmed the signing of former Manchester United and Crystal Palace winger,

510
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Wilfred Zaha on a one-year-long-

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What's his age now?

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I think he's 32-ish.

513
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,640
Yeah, 32.

514
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,640
No, he's not in his 20s anymore.

515
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,640
No, yeah, yeah.

516
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But still, I mean, there's certain players.

517
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,640
I don't love signing players of that age, but there's certain players that have a skillset

518
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,640
level of a player.

519
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,640
Yeah, that's a good sign.

520
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,640
Other things, the Dallas Allen Velasco Taboka Juniors has been finalized.

521
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,640
So Dallas is in full rebuild mode for sure.

522
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,640
San Diego, your future home, did sign Luca de la Torre.

523
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,640
That's a big move.

524
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,640
Yeah, yeah.

525
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,640
I think Luca's a San Diego native, I believe.

526
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,640
I could be wrong about that, but-

527
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,640
Oh, interesting.

528
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,640
He was.

529
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,640
I was sent Kossi Tafari over to LAFC as well, the defender.

530
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,640
I did not realize that.

531
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,640
So they're going, and the LA Galaxy sent their-

532
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,640
Mark Delgado to LAFC.

533
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,640
Which is weird.

534
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,640
I don't get that.

535
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,640
He must have wanted to stay in LA, but they were going to move on.

536
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:37,640
Well, they had to because the Galaxy were running into an issue where because Ricky Pooj is going to be on their books all season long, because they expect him to come back around playoff time, you couldn't use your mechanism to basically put them on a season ending reserve and take them off the books.

537
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:48,640
So because of that, they're basically rolling with two DPs throughout the year. And when a team win the championship, a lot of time to get that championship bump in salaries.

538
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:54,640
Keep in mind roster bonuses also can count against the salary cap.

539
00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:04,640
So LA Galaxy, unfortunately, probably had to get rid of a few players that they didn't really want to just as cap casualties.

540
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,640
You're right about San Diego, by the way. He is born there.

541
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,640
I thought so. I thought Luca Delatorre is from there.

542
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,640
What about this big move right here though?

543
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,640
Eric Zavoletta?

544
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:30,640
Yeah. Former Seattle Sounder. Former not defender that the Sounders turned into a defender like they are currently doing with our boy Josh.

545
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,640
Resigned with LA Galaxy.

546
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:41,640
Well, I mean, that makes sense because apparently he can only play against teams that go against the Sounders in the playoffs.

547
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:53,640
Or only play for teams that his uncle is the coach of after leaving the Sounders, because he played for Toronto and then he played for LA Galaxy where his uncle's the coach.

548
00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:01,640
But with that said, Portland, they acquired Kevin Kelsey from Shakhtar Donetsk.

549
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:07,640
So 20 year old U22 spot, $6 million transfer fee.

550
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,640
So it's interesting because Portland had a really potent offense last year.

551
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,640
Yeah, defense was where they needed to shore up.

552
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,640
Well, you got to keep in mind that Evander wants out and has been very vocal about that.

553
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,640
So this has got to be a move in that direction.

554
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,640
No!

555
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,640
Is this us?

556
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,640
Oh, no.

557
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,640
Speak words.

558
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,640
No. Okay. This is a different Igor Jesus.

559
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,640
Igor Jesus?

560
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:44,640
Yeah, there was a different one that I wanted the Sounders to sign who's a young Brazilian.

561
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,640
But okay.

562
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,640
I'm glad it wasn't the one I wanted.

563
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,640
I was going to be so sad.

564
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,640
But yeah, I mean, we were seeing moves all over the league that-

565
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,640
Jonathan Bomba going to Chicago.

566
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,640
That's a big one for sure from Kelta de Vigo.

567
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:13,640
I mean, LA Galaxy bringing back Yoshida is pretty big because he started for them in the MLS Cup final.

568
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,640
Well, it was also clear that Delgado wasn't part of their plans anymore.

569
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:26,640
And so shoring up the defensive side is probably a priority for them for sure.

570
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:33,640
But it sounds like the other Chicago rumored transfer, Neymar coming into the league,

571
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:45,640
that looks like that is going to be on hold as Neymar appears to be locking in and settling in with Santos, his home country, one of his youth teams.

572
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:54,640
And that's probably for the best because I mean, I don't know if you've been paying attention to Neymar's production over the last few years, but it has not been great.

573
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Yeah, he's been hurt and when he has played, yeah, not good.

574
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:13,640
Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably an addition by subtraction for Chicago there because I feel like that would have absolutely turned into a who is in New York City, a Pirlo situation or a Girard situation for sure.

575
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:23,640
I thought this move was interesting. So I want to make sure to talk about that. Ariat Pio from MacArthur FC in the Australian A-League to Real Salt Lake because he's only 20.

576
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:31,640
So he signed a three year deal with an option for a fourth year. He had four goals and 14 appearances since making his professional debut.

577
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:38,640
So he was brought in by Chief Soccer Officer Kurt Schmid.

578
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Former Sounders. Yeah, I didn't know when he went to RSO. I was wondering about it as well.

579
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:50,640
I remember earlier this year we talked about it on an episode. So clearly like last year or the year before.

580
00:29:50,640 --> 00:30:02,640
I will say though, I think this is a good sign for the league that we're talking about a lot of U-22 signings with some decent transfer fees of north of two plus million.

581
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:12,640
This is exactly what we want to see out of this league and see that growth, see those exciting moves.

582
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:25,640
I'm very pleased with both what we have but also just seeing what other people are doing and everyone's got a different approach to it.

583
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:35,640
And I think that that's good for the league. And the biggest signing news of the day, of course, came out on Instagram.

584
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:42,640
On his very own Instagram, Kim Kihee announced that he has signed with the Sounders. Spoiler alert.

585
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:53,640
We're going to have a call back to Kim Kihee later on. What's that? I heard what you said. Sorry, what did you say, Aaron?

586
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,640
I was wondering where you were, what platform that came from?

587
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Instagram. He posted on his own personal Instagram page in Korean.

588
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:08,640
So the reason I found out was somebody who speaks Korean posted about it on Twitter.

589
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:16,640
X, whatever you call it. I did post my first ever thing on Blue Sky. It's just a sexy photo of myself.

590
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:28,640
But I made my first Blue Sky post after having that page for like a year. Page, account, screen name, what do you call it?

591
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:40,640
What are we going to do with Kim Kihee? I'm on his Instagram. I don't see anything. It's in Korean. It's a big long post with text.

592
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:47,640
It says he only has four posts. That can't be right. That's probably not him then. But yeah, so Kim Kihee is a Sounder.

593
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Thank goodness he'll provide hugely for the locker room. Yeah, I loved him.

594
00:31:53,640 --> 00:32:07,640
And hey, also fun, fun news that came out today was that Sounders photographer Mike Bichner finished second place in the World Sports Photography Awards.

595
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:22,640
With his photo from the US Open Cup of a player we're going to talk about in a little bit, Kalani doing a flip after scoring a goal.

596
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,640
That was such a cool shot. And that was a fun game to be at too.

597
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:37,640
And that's one of those shots that every time I look at that photo I notice a different part of that photo. It's a composition of it. It's got great emotion in it.

598
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:48,640
It's just a really, really excellent photo. So congratulations to Mike for finishing second place in the World Sports Photography Award. That's really, really exciting.

599
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Yeah, I don't know Mike very well, but he's always so friendly when I talk to him.

600
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Yeah, we use that for our Instagram posts too. Oh really? Yeah, I had him upside down against Phoenix with the...

601
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Sorry, my cat. Yeah, I thought it was a child at first, but your cat is so cute. I had to do a look behind me to make sure. I need those drugs now for that cat.

602
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:24,640
I'm not in my garage. No, you can see there's a bed behind you this time. Well, yeah, we just wanted to match the other podcast that has a cat that shows up sometimes I guess.

603
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Anyway, yeah, no, we used an Instagram post for a new episode and we had that silhouette of him.

604
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:50,640
But also we made it with flames. Flames? Phoenix. Yeah. Moving on. Do we have any more Scuttlebot? I can't think of any more super exciting news other than Nine Inch Nails announced that they're coming to town and you're not going to be here for it, Aaron.

605
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,640
I think that probably show we could have gone together. I think it's August.

606
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:04,640
Yeah, dude. Okay, so Payne Field by my house up here in Everett. $114 direct to San Diego. Okay.

607
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:15,640
So maybe you will. I can easily come up here for a night and go back down. Another thing I'm stoked about, I can drive to LA, go to a Laker game and come home on the same day.

608
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:25,640
You can. I'm gonna go to San Diego. I don't know why you would, but you can. You know exactly why. I know why you would. Excuse me. I don't know why one would.

609
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:35,640
Yeah. Look for me on the... Yeah, but with traffic, you know that's gonna be like three hours. Like I could probably drive to Portland in the same time you could drive from San Diego to LA.

610
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:42,640
That's true. It says it's a 90 minute drive as the crow flies. Yeah. It's anyway.

611
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:54,640
Oh, this is the roster for today's Sounders game. Okay, let's talk about the second half. Patrick GC has an interesting thought for us to ponder. I don't know. Did you guys read it?

612
00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:11,640
Yeah, he posted it originally in the Sounders Scuttlebutt channel. I asked him to put it over in the mailbag for the show because I thought it was an important question that I certainly have strong opinions on, but I'm curious what y'all will think.

613
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Yeah, Nick. You want to read it off, Nick, while I try to kill my cat? Okay, that'll be fun.

614
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:35,640
So the question is... It's on your screen, by the way, if you just want to look up at it. I am. I am. So do you think it would have been the same result for the first 15 games with Rothrock and Georgie on the roster from day one?

615
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:41,640
How are we supposed to take it seriously? When Aaron is here literally yelling at his cat.

616
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,640
Trying to throw a sock at him.

617
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:53,640
Throwing a sock at him as if the cat's gonna be like, okay, dad, sure. It's not Dempsey. Dempsey the dog would give it. It's a cat. That cat would give a fuck.

618
00:35:53,640 --> 00:36:07,640
He doesn't. He's under that now, though. So I think the gist of what he's saying is ideally if Rothrock was in the starting 11 from day one, obviously they're both on the roster from day one.

619
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:22,640
But yeah, so basically if you're taking the standard roster from the last 15 games of the year and extrapolating that to the first 15 games of the year, do you think it'd be the same result?

620
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:44,640
That's the gist of the question. And Aaron, why don't you start us off with that? What do you think as far as would we have improved? Would we have about the same? Would we have been a little worse? What do you think?

621
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,640
That's an interesting question. I mean.

622
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,640
That's a child now.

623
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,640
That's a child, right? That's not a cat like talking words.

624
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,640
That would be from next time.

625
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,640
Oh, okay.

626
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,640
I thought your cat was like, oh my goodness. My cat is. Yeah.

627
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,640
But yeah, I mean, motherfucker, you want to throw socks at me?

628
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:31,640
I'm gonna shit in your mouth tonight while you sleep. I do. I do have a friend who when her husband woke up, put the cat or she put the cat out and when her husband woke up, left to go to work and she was in the shower and she came out and the cat had gotten back in the room and was standing over her pillow waiting for her to come out of the shower, locked eyes with her and then peed on her pillow as a punishment.

629
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,640
And my cat was like, I know what you did and I'm going to get you.

630
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Patrick GC's like just answer the damn question.

631
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Okay, just state it again.

632
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Yeah, if Georgie and Roth Rock had been on the roster from day one as we saw them break through in the season, would the results. Would the sounders have struggled as much or the results have been better.

633
00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:03,640
My question is if they were then where is Pedro, then which I guess he was injured right but

634
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,640
I think they would be better right because

635
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,640
only because of the Ferrera and Raul swap.

636
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,640
I'm sure now if you had Ferrera but I mean just last year.

637
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Like, well that's what he's saying and sub Ferrera for Raul.

638
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,640
That's the second half of the season he's talking about the first half.

639
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:29,640
So comparing. No, I'm I think he's saying if you took the second half team subbed in Ferrera for Raul.

640
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,640
That's the second question. We're only talking about the first one which is if you had Roth Rock and Georgie.

641
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Yeah, the second one is really basically him saying that that would be what this year's team is looking like.

642
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:47,640
Yeah. So if you had Roth Rock and Georgie from day one, would we have won some more of those games.

643
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,640
I think probably.

644
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:55,640
It's tough to tell because the other thing you got to remember is the human element there.

645
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:06,640
We needed to the team needed to see and realize as well and trust in Brian that Raul was no longer the answer.

646
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,640
And unfortunately part of that is exactly.

647
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,640
That's a great thought.

648
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:22,640
And so we did need to see we needed to give Raul the proper runway. We need to give him a chance to to prove it on the pitch.

649
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:34,640
Unfortunately, much like Nico the year before, just at the end of the DP contract and where he wasn't putting up DP production anymore.

650
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:42,640
And and with that in mind, whether or not we would have been better.

651
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,640
I'm very happy with the way the season went as a whole.

652
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,640
And we largely stayed out of the the drama.

653
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,640
You heard multiple players talk about how tight the locker room was.

654
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,640
So I'm going to say that I'm OK with it the way it actually played out.

655
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,640
And I don't think Georgie was ready.

656
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:10,640
I mean, he had to show some stuff just to get signed to the team, let alone start playing regularly for the team.

657
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,640
And he needed to play those minutes at Defiance in order to get to that place.

658
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,640
And those were minutes of success.

659
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,640
So I don't if he had come in from day one, he wouldn't have had the same confidence coming in.

660
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,640
He wouldn't have been starting the same way.

661
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,640
So I don't know if we would have seen it.

662
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:33,640
Maybe we would have had more options to sit players because.

663
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Everyone was playing poorly, not everyone.

664
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,640
The deal wasn't on the offensive side, everyone was running poorly.

665
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,640
Like people were missing easy goals that they never miss.

666
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,640
So I don't think we advanced as far as we did.

667
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Like Nick, you just said, if we didn't go through those trials and tribulations.

668
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:58,640
So, yeah, but moving this year, I think I think Ferreira sub-Ferraoui plus the other additions we've talked about that.

669
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
I mean, we'll be better this year.

670
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,640
We'll be better. Yeah, that's why I was reading it that way.

671
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:11,640
But after today's game and we saw what Pedro looks like when he is more fit than he was last year.

672
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,640
Boy, I'm I'm I'm pleasantly surprised, not surprised, but I'm happy.

673
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,640
And again, keep in mind one more thing I cannot I cannot underestimate this.

674
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Paul Rothrock in the vein of this question, and I would agree with it 100 percent that Paul Rothrock was our starting winger.

675
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Yeah, absolutely. Locked in second half of the season.

676
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Who did we have playing because Chu started early, but then was sitting.

677
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Who did we have playing at left wing?

678
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,640
Well, it was basically it was basically Jordan Pedro.

679
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,640
And then it was a little bit of a read.

680
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,640
It knows like Jordan on the left with Raul of Topp.

681
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,640
Little bit, but then a pretty soon.

682
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Yeah, I guess it was it was 11 games into the season when and then and then she got a few runs out as well.

683
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,640
She got some runs out. So we saw Reed.

684
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,640
We saw. Yeah. So, OK.

685
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,640
But and then Rothrock took that job.

686
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:21,640
And then Rothrock basically took that when that all came about when Alex rolled on, got that concussion like, you know, 30 seconds into that one game.

687
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640
Yeah. And and they subbed him on.

688
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,640
And so really interesting, you know, just seizing your moment for sure.

689
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Yeah, I think more like that Patrick's questions hindsight, right, because Georgie obviously was better at the end of the season than he was.

690
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Like you were saying, Cameron, he was he needed to come in to finance, but he's also saying not in the starting 11.

691
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:55,640
He's saying in his question on the roster, so he would have presumably just, you know, a few minutes here or there, which we were saying if Georgie has 15 to 10 minutes at the end of a game, it's going to terrify.

692
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Yeah, basically, Georgie was taking all of Leo Chu's minutes from last year, basically, is the way I interpreted that question for sure.

693
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:16,640
I think that was the intent. But but but that goes back to the point that I was starting to make a few moments ago is that you have Paul Rothrock, who is your locked in left winger to the second half of the season.

694
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:26,640
He's third on your left wing depth chart right now, behind Ariella and Morris.

695
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:38,640
It's crazy. It's crazy the depth that we're going to have the options we're going to have coming off of off of the bench this year and the attacking flexibility that we're going to have I'm really excited for that.

696
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:47,640
I can change the share so that you can see what see this better that we have today's roster.

697
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Well, well, should we break, we should go to break, but I just wanted to look at it in terms of where people fall on the list because yeah looking at that.

698
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:16,640
You definitely have, you know, Jordan up top but then potentially he can play on the left, you have Ariella on the left potentially, you know, more natural on the right maybe but still, you have PDLV who can play on the left you have

699
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:27,640
Ferrera, who could play on the left so we definitely have a embarrassment of riches on the wings and up top. Now, we just need to see execution.

700
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:36,640
And I'm glad that Frye of course in today's game played the CK I don't know what position that is but

701
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:42,640
he got him to play the CK on the list, the goalkeeper.

702
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Okay, let's go to break and we'll kind of talk a little bit about that the preseason match. Yeah, everyone listen to me talk about Patreon.

703
00:44:51,640 --> 00:45:08,640
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704
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705
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709
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711
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

712
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,640
And we're back.

713
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:52,640
All right. Where are they playing? They're in Spain, right? They are. They're in Spain right now. Marbella Football Center. Marbella. World Class Center.

714
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:58,640
They have multiple pitches, which is why the streaming was so nice today. I think that's better.

715
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:13,640
The angle of it though made me not recognize Newhoo because it was the lens is kind of a, it's not a very strong wide angle lens, but it's strong enough that it made me go, well, who is that? Oh, that's Newhoo.

716
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:19,640
But everything looks cooler with a fish eye lens.

717
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:32,640
So yeah, it was a Sounders versus Puskas Academia FC out of Hungary. Top of the table in Hungary. They are halfway through their season.

718
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:40,640
I looked up their value of their players and kind of, you know, how much the team's total value is.

719
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:52,640
And while they have some players that are more valuable overall, they're kind of on par with a USL Championship team. So their overall value is right up there.

720
00:47:52,640 --> 00:48:04,640
So the second division right below the MLS. So higher than Defiance for sure, because Defiance is what, third-ish now? Third, between third and fourth kind of.

721
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:17,640
So yeah, so it's not like we were playing world beaters, but you know what? It was a game and you got to show up and perform. And for 45 minutes the Sounders did it, right Nick?

722
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:25,640
Yeah, I mean, this is a team that's going to be in Champions League next year at the current rate.

723
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:35,640
And so I thought the game was fast paced, especially the first half. I thought there was a lot of quick touches by both teams.

724
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:43,640
They gave us a lot more space than I think an MLS team would have. But you know, I think we still have a lot of room to get better.

725
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,640
This is the first game we've played of competitive bowl.

726
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:55,640
And yeah, so our starting lineup was for the first set, they split it up into two squads. Each squad played 45 minutes.

727
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:04,640
The starting lineup for us was Steph Ryan Goal with Nuhu, Stuart Hawkins, Yeymar, and Kalani Kasi Rienzi.

728
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:10,640
He of the flip that we were talking about earlier on right back.

729
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Then you had Danny Leyva and Joe Paolo in the center with Paul Arreola, Sebastian Gomez, another Academy guy, Defiance guy, and Pedro with Jordan Morris up top.

730
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,640
We played very direct offensively. That was really nice to see.

731
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Now, is that sustainable? Is that just more, oh, we haven't really practiced building out our passing sequences. So we're playing a little more direct for that reason.

732
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Or is this going to be a true change to our style? I don't know. It looked like at times we had three centerbacks.

733
00:49:53,640 --> 00:50:02,640
Yeah, because you can really see, especially on the left, you saw Nuhu getting up the field. And even in the second half, you saw Souza getting up the field.

734
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:12,640
And so there were times where it wasn't even like they were crossing over. It was that the left mid and the left back were moved all the way up.

735
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,640
Yeah.

736
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:27,640
But we saw a great ball movement. I mean, I think Pedro's goal was fantastic. He was the fittest we've ever seen him. His ball movement was great. His off the ball play was good. He had a goal and assist.

737
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:35,640
Yeah, goal and assist in 45 minutes. It was really all over the place being very aggressive and challenging.

738
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:43,640
Playing in the middle of the field too. I mean, he obviously was in a regular position, but he's not strictly stuck in that position.

739
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:56,640
Yeah. So unfortunately with the way that the stream was and the way that the camera was, Paul Ariola was mostly on the far side of the field from kind of the single fixed camera.

740
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:05,640
So it was a little hard for me to analyze what I saw from him. And plus I was watching from my mobile phone.

741
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:12,640
Yeah, I had it on YouTube on my big bedroom TV. But even then, yeah, he was still on the other side.

742
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:31,640
But I mean, you got to see a lot of ball movement and I don't know, it felt good. It felt like this is how we should be playing and this is how we should have played last year as opposed to the second half, which kind of felt like last year to me.

743
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:46,640
Well, I mean, again, this is a team, Puskas, who have the third most goals scored in the Hungarian League and we shut them out. And that's through 17 games. So I think that's a very, very good thing.

744
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:57,640
They have the second highest goal differential right behind Farin Kavos, who you'll probably recognize from some FIFA games.

745
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,640
But yeah, so this is not a walkover team.

746
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:15,640
And this is the first competitive air quotes like match this team and was playing and I'm assuming I didn't watch it live. But I'm assuming there was no sub maximums right?

747
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:22,640
Correct. They swapped the entire line switch for the second half.

748
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Quick question. Why wasn't Jesus there? Why should I know that?

749
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,640
Oh, he was with the USA, so he hasn't made it there. I mean, he may have made it there right now.

750
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,640
It released him, so he was on his way. So he's just he hasn't been practicing with the team yet.

751
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,640
They fully expect him to be playing in the next game, which will be on the 31st.

752
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,640
It was interesting how far spread out they are.

753
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,640
That might also just be timing as far as who they're getting.

754
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:57,640
Yeah, I mean, we play to we play hammer B and nor nor coping the same day back to back. So that'll be on February 5th.

755
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,640
So that'll be interesting. I don't love a 4 a.m. Seattle start time.

756
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:10,640
But hey, that's fine. We get a 7 a.m. for the second game, which was today's start time, although I felt like it started a little late.

757
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,640
I wish we could. There could be replays to watch it.

758
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:22,640
We watch it on YouTube. Really? I believe so. Yeah. Same same channel that you can pull it up and watch the whole thing.

759
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:30,640
There you go. And then, of course, we play Alborg BK and then come home to play Louisville on February 12th.

760
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:38,640
Louisville city. Yeah, when I was in elementary school, my best friend moved to Louisville.

761
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,640
Ten thirty a.m. I wonder if we can sneak into that one. February 12th.

762
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,640
Good times. That's actually the day before I leave for Denver. So that's not an option for me.

763
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,640
You know, I'll be too far down south on the five.

764
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:58,640
Oof. Oof. Yikes. No. I five. Get it right.

765
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:05,640
Get it right. Get it tight. Yeah. So I'm excited. Hey, it's nice to be talking right.

766
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Nice to be talking. We got Sounders football. Sounders football is here.

767
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,640
It's interesting the teams we do play because their midseason ends up being a lot of these.

768
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:25,640
I think we talked about it before that I was pleasantly surprised that we played a Hungarian team that ends up being these like Sweden, Norway, Denmark type teams.

769
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,640
Who I wonder that makes sense. So they're on a they're on break right now, right?

770
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,640
Because don't they have a winter break because of the snow? Not Puskos.

771
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:39,640
Puskos is our third match in a week. Yeah, but he's talking about the Scandinavians.

772
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:45,640
That's the word I'm looking for because Norwegian is a specific country. Scandinavian teams.

773
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Yeah. The Vikings. Well, Albert BK, that's Denmark, right? Yeah.

774
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,640
They're Scandinavian. Yeah.

775
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:00,640
And IFK, I think IFK, Norrkoping is probably the same.

776
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,640
Yeah, they're from.

777
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,640
They are from.

778
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,640
I don't even know. It doesn't say. We come from France.

779
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Oh, wait. No, they're Swedish. Yeah, they're Swedish. And I think Hammer B is Swedish as well, if I remember correctly.

780
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,640
I believe you're right. Nick, you had a game for us.

781
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:26,640
I do. I do. One thing I'd like to start doing here is I'd like to have little segments here.

782
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:33,640
And so I've prepared a game that I am calling Who Made More.

783
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:48,640
And so what I'm going to do is I am going to list two players and your job is to decide which player made more, had a higher salary for that year.

784
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Very simple. And I'm going to be comparing a player from our past with a player from last season's roster.

785
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,640
Can I say one thing before you get there real quick? Yeah.

786
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:07,640
Okay. I'm going to say this. Aaron, did you see Lewis come out in his Mercedes gear? I mean, his Ferrari gear?

787
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,640
No. Oh, it was so wonderful. He posted it on Twitter.

788
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:19,640
I was daydreaming today about a kind of like gradient transition of a Mercedes and Ferrari hat that would look kind of cool.

789
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:29,640
I still want to root for Mercedes. I still want to root for Merck, but I'm of course rooting for Lewis and that sexy red.

790
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:35,640
Anyway, he had a beautiful suit on standing in front of a Ferrari and posted it on there.

791
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:41,640
Oh, and one other thing, because I was asked to talk about it. I've gotten really into Irish curling.

792
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,640
Excuse me, hurling. Not curling, hurling, which is like...

793
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:53,640
Those are two very, very different things. Hurling is like rugby meets soccer meets lacrosse and it's super violent.

794
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:59,640
It's field hockey. Yeah, it's super crazy and it's a uniquely Irish sport.

795
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:07,640
It's the same as Gaelic football, but instead of using a soccer-ish type ball, they use a little baseball sized ball with a stick.

796
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,640
And you can score from all the way across the field if you make it right.

797
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:18,640
So last year's championship, Cork lost to Kerry on the...

798
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,640
Well, they had a chance to tie it on the final play of overtime.

799
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,640
And if you tied it after overtime, you go to a retest. You don't get a second overtime.

800
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,640
So they would have had to play an entirely new game the next week in the championship.

801
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,640
So that's starting this weekend. I'm super excited.

802
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:42,640
Just wait until next week when we talk about Bandy, which is basically ice hockey on a soccer field.

803
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:48,640
Or the new German game, which is Arena League football type football, but on a hockey rink.

804
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,640
Yeah. Like on ice.

805
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,640
It's good stuff, good stuff. Wild world of sports.

806
00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:01,640
OK, so who made more? So I have seven rounds here. It's an odd number.

807
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,640
We'll see which one of you will come out there, Victoria.

808
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,640
I think this is not going to be fair.

809
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:11,640
No, no, no. And I do. I will say that I have adjusted these for inflation as well.

810
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,640
So that apples to apples.

811
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,640
Of course you have.

812
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:24,640
So who made more? 2009, Casey Keller or this year's Stephen Fry?

813
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,640
Who made more? Aaron, I'm going to let you start first.

814
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:35,640
The inflation makes it crazy. I'm going to go ahead and say Stephen Fry.

815
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,640
That's what I would say, too. All right. So you both want to go on discount.

816
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:48,640
Well, also, the also the the salary cap was so much lower than even with the.

817
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,640
What do you call it? The inflation.

818
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:58,640
So with that in mind, Casey Keller in 2009 before inflation made 300000.

819
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,640
So adjusted for inflation, four hundred twenty six thousand eighty three dollars.

820
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,640
Stephen Fry last year made six hundred thousand. So you're both correct.

821
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,640
Stephen Fry. Congratulations.

822
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,640
That's kind of a deal for Casey. Yeah, yeah, not bad.

823
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:18,640
So round. I think I remember hearing something about like he wasn't he wasn't there for them.

824
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,640
Oh, we know he wasn't there for the money. He was he was fine.

825
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,640
Round two, we're going with center backs. Twenty nineteen.

826
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:32,640
Kim Ki-hee or Yamar.

827
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:41,640
Oh, this is a tough one. In the same year. No, the modern ones will always be this this current year.

828
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640
This last year released to twenty twenty four.

829
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:49,640
I mean, he was a big signing when we brought him in, he immediately was supposed to be starting

830
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:56,640
and he did start, but then kind of had to work his way back into it.

831
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:04,640
That's interesting. And it's not that long ago that the inflation would be that much.

832
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,640
We know Yamar makes quite a bit. I guess I go first.

833
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,640
I'm going to say I'm going to say Kim Ki-hee.

834
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,640
OK, Cameron's Ki-hee. That was going to be my same answer.

835
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,640
And that's OK. If you both have the same answer, that's that's OK.

836
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:23,640
And, you know, delaying a little bit to make sure the person at home can play along with us.

837
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:33,640
So Kim Ki-hee, twenty nineteen, made six hundred forty thousand adjusted for inflation, seven hundred sixty two thousand seven seventy five.

838
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Yamar, seven hundred fifty thousand. So by twelve thousand, Kim Ki-hee is the winner.

839
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,640
Yeah, I knew it was going to be close, but.

840
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,640
OK, so now we're going to go old to new.

841
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,640
We're going to go two thousand nine. Freddie Lundberg.

842
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:59,640
Our first our first EP or Christian rolled on.

843
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,640
Two thousand nine. Freddie Lundberg or this year's Christian rolled on.

844
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:09,640
I mean, Christian's still on a pretty high number because of his recent contract signing.

845
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:19,640
But I wonder if you had to take the transfer fee along with it and amortize it across like you do now.

846
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,640
I don't know the answer to that back then, though.

847
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,640
I am going to tell you on that. The answer is no.

848
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,640
This is going to be salary. This is not going to be.

849
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,640
We are not considering the cap hit because of.

850
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,640
OK, because because oftentimes we only know the cap hit and not the actual salary.

851
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,640
But yeah, OK, this is my turn.

852
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:45,640
I'm going to go with Freddie because all I can picture is Calvin Klein underwear.

853
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,640
I wanted to say that. So and Cameron.

854
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,640
This is a tough one. I think I'll go with Freddie as well since he was a DP.

855
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,640
And that inflation number is pretty good. Going to be pretty high.

856
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:04,640
So 2009, Freddie Lundberg made one point three million dollars before inflation.

857
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,640
So that's one point eight million.

858
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,640
And then Christian rolled on one point four million.

859
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,640
So obviously no inflation at this time.

860
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,640
So, yes, Freddie Lundberg. So you're both three for three. Not bad, not bad.

861
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,640
Now we're going to get into, you know, in the back half here, we're going to get a little a little interesting.

862
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:31,640
Twenty fourteen supporters shield winning Oba Femi Martins.

863
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:37,640
Or twenty twenty four Albert Rusnak.

864
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,640
Oba Femi Martins or Albert Rusnak. Rusnak was a DP.

865
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,640
And this one is both of them were DPs.

866
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,640
Yeah, yeah, but Rusnak was a DP, but a cheaper DP than he is now because he had yet to be paid.

867
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,640
He was being paid RSL numbers because we traded for him.

868
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,640
We picked him up in free agency. We signed him as a free agent.

869
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,640
Oh, did we? Yeah.

870
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,640
That was like the biggest free agent signing.

871
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,640
And this is Cameron's turn to go first.

872
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:15,640
Yeah, but I still think I mean, you got to go over just based on what a dick he was in the locker room because he was so rich.

873
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,640
I'm going to go to it's twenty twenty four. Right. So twenty I'm going to go to twenty four.

874
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:24,640
Twenty Albert, because I have that video. Yeah.

875
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:38,640
So in 2014, Oba Femi Martins made one point six two million, which which comes out to two point two point oh eight five million.

876
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:46,640
Yeah. Oh, wait, five. Albert Rusnak is two point oh eight six two point one five.

877
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,640
Oh, yeah.

878
01:03:49,640 --> 01:04:02,640
And Lewis goes around the outside. Yeah, that's that's so funny because you think about I mean, Oba was should have won the the MVP that year.

879
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:10,640
He got robbed of it and he's making so much less than modern MPP's one of the yeah, just just interesting times.

880
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:15,640
That's why when I was putting this game together, I was having a lot of fun kind of looking and having kind of member berries.

881
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,640
All right. Give us one more. Give us one more. All right.

882
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,640
Is it the last one? I got three more so we can do this really quick.

883
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,640
Let's do rapid. All right. Here we go.

884
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:32,640
In the bedroom. We got 2017 Ozzie Alonzo or 2024 Joe Paulo.

885
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,640
And it's Aaron's turn.

886
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:43,640
I'm going to go Ozzie 2017. Yep. After the MLS Cup win after MLS Cup.

887
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,640
He was making a lot of these two. I'm going to go to Joe Paulo.

888
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:55,640
So Ozzie was making one point one million adjusted for inflation. One point three six Joe Paulo one point four.

889
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,640
So Joe Paulo with the win.

890
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,640
Okay. Round six.

891
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:09,640
Twenty sixteen. Zach Scott or 2024 Obed Vargas.

892
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,640
I'm going Obed. It has to be. It has to be.

893
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,640
I really hope we were not. I love Zach Scott as a person. I really hope we were not.

894
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,640
Zach got that much money.

895
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,640
We're going to go with Obed as well.

896
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,640
Okay. You both say Obed.

897
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:32,640
So Zach Scott was making sixty two point five sixty two thousand five hundred adjusted for inflation.

898
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,640
Seventy nine thousand basically league minimum at the time.

899
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:40,640
Yeah. Obed Vargas eighty nine thousand seven hundred sixteen.

900
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:45,640
Okay. All comes out of this. You're both tied right now.

901
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:50,640
So twenty sixteen Nelson Valdez.

902
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,640
Twenty twenty four Pedro de la Vega.

903
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,640
It's Pedro.

904
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:01,640
You know what to make it interesting because if I say the same as you we're going to tie.

905
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,640
Nelson got paid a lot of money anyway.

906
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:09,640
He was our own personal Fernando Torres who only did something once it mattered.

907
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,640
Like when Fernando Torres.

908
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,640
But I know how much he made because I read Matt Pence's book and there's a whole chapter on it.

909
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:22,640
Okay. Well thank you. Then I'm going to go with Pedro de la Vega.

910
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,640
Final answer.

911
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:31,640
Nelson Valdez made one point two million dollars which adjusted for inflation is one point five.

912
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,640
Pedro de la Vega made seven hundred eighty five thousand.

913
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,640
So it was Nelson Valdez. That's the first one that no one got right.

914
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,640
You tricked me with with your chapter reading there.

915
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:50,640
And now you guys get stuck in a kissing siblings tie. That's what you deserve.

916
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,640
All right. So that was who made more.

917
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,640
I'm actually you know I didn't know Pedro was making that little.

918
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,640
Yeah that's why he's such a deal.

919
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,640
Yeah the DP is because of the transfer.

920
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,640
Oh.

921
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,640
Yeah. So that was who made more.

922
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:10,640
One of the things I'd like to do this year is I'm going to try and come up with more bits more more segments little games things like that.

923
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,640
I have a few in mind for future episodes.

924
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:21,640
So if any of you have ideas for things you'd like to see don't be afraid to shoot that out in the discord and I'll put together some fun stuff.

925
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,640
We did have a request from the discord.

926
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:31,640
I have to look up the actual schedule for the Sounders but I believe.

927
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,640
Excuse me. It was Charlotte February 22nd.

928
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:45,640
We had a request for a meetup at that first game for listeners and maybe people from the podcast.

929
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:55,640
I will have to be in the stadium so potentially we could do it at the grill of C table which is right above where you sit Nicholas if you're going to be there.

930
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:00,640
So maybe Aaron can pipe in via telephone.

931
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:08,640
Yeah FaceTime me and it would be like a flavor flave and like have your phone right in your sternum.

932
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:16,640
My big issue is always my my pregame hype is always based on whether I have my five year old.

933
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:24,640
But I figure you probably will have her and be in the stadium so most likely in there there is bars all around us when you're in the stadium.

934
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,640
So it's like jail. Yeah, you can grab a beer.

935
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:34,640
I also want to do. I also want to do like kind of.

936
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:48,640
We talked about this where we watch a game and we're recording while we're watching live stream, but like you can time it so everyone watches on DVR you can get our audio instead of, you know, be like okay Matt starting whistle now.

937
01:08:48,640 --> 01:09:00,640
So you can like hit play and then you can just watch live and that just be fun because people like to either rewatch or don't get to watch a live like someone like me and if I was like I love this podcast and I hate MLS season pass.

938
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:14,640
You know, like the one thing I'm really going full mystery science theater. Yeah, exactly. The one thing I've really missed about not having that being present at games is so I always go up and go to the bathroom at halftime and then I hear Jackson felt his voice.

939
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,640
Yeah. And so whenever I hear his voice, it makes me have to pee.

940
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:32,640
Because I'm always being when I hear his voice. So the other day I got dinner with Jackson, and I just had to pee the entire time. Every time I heard his voice as we were watching the Ohio State versus whoever they played in the game.

941
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:48,640
I'm not sure if they were fighting Irish, Notre Dame, no game. Oh, the game before Texas, Texas. Yeah, he was written for our state because it's like 91 year old ailing grandma wanted to see how the state went, when one more time before she died.

942
01:09:48,640 --> 01:10:02,640
Unfortunately, much like Nicholas, she was happy. Because Nicholas is a sellout and roots for the Huskies rivals might as well just root for Oregon while you're at it.

943
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,640
Hey, let's wrap this up.

944
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:05,640
It's bedtime.

945
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:13,640
Here on the 23rd of January, for some of us. Yeah, no you got hours in.

946
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,640
Before you get out of there.

947
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:24,640
Actually, that's not bad. Yeah, two hours is better than zero there Nick you, your brain work, especially if you're driving to tomorrow. Yeah, your brain will work better.

948
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:25,640
Okay.

949
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:30,640
So, where can they find you Nicholas.

950
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:45,640
You can find me on Twitter at Nikita banana and IQ you it a BA NA NA. What about you. Oh, actually on Instagram at Cascades, you see and then what about you, Aaron.

951
01:10:45,640 --> 01:11:01,640
Honestly, I think, I think I might cut the cord on on Twitter, on x, I think it might just be confinement the discord. I am the when I thumb on there and it's got about, I really don't know about icon on blue sky.

952
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:06,640
I gotta, I gotta, I think, I think we might go that direction.

953
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:18,640
Well, maybe we'll spend more time curating your list and only following good people on on Twitter, because I just don't support it at this point. It's so that's all.

954
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:32,640
But anyway, that button can find me on the discord, you can find you on the scuttlebutt Instagram sometimes once in every like once every month you might look at that.

955
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,640
Yeah. I mean, did you ever did you ever respond to my friend request from two years ago.

956
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,640
Three years ago, on my personal Instagram.

957
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,640
No, he doesn't even have a password for it.

958
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:51,640
Yeah, no you just go follow Randy that's that's the way you're gonna. Yeah, yeah, she's on it.

959
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:59,640
That's that is 100% true. And Cameron, you legal minded punk everywhere you find social medias.

960
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:04,640
Right on right on. All right, join our discord join our Patreon.

961
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,640
Sounds see you next time. Take it away James.

962
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:14,640
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963
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:24,640
And for all inquiries including questions for the gents or sponsorship opportunities, please email contact at scuttlebutt productions.com.

964
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:29,640
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965
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,640
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966
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:38,640
And you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook at Britvox us.

967
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:47,640
That's Britvox US. We'll see you at Lumen and go sounders.

968
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:55,640
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