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stuff kid all i gotta say is the public can't

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say shit Welcome to Sounders Scuttlebutt. I'm

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Aaron Lingley, and joined, as always, I am. Wow.

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I am sick, by the way, so my head's not working.

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But, as always, I'm joined by your Alliance Council

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Secretary, Cameron Collins. Hey, everybody, I'm

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not sick for a change. It's surprising. I think

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I might have given it to Aaron the other day

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when we were making out. And, as always, joined

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by Nicholas Biela, your Alliance Council... At

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large. At large. At large, yes. It's not just

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a clever name. It's not just... And I'm your

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Alliance Council friend. Welcome. It's Sounder

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Scuttlebutt. It's your first time listening.

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We have a show, Discord, and it's been beautifully

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organized by your Cameron Collins to fit for

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our mailbag, for general Scuttlebutt talk, when

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our show gets posted, and there's just really

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good banter on there. And yeah, we tend to pull

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from the Discord for our Scuttlebutt portion

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of the show. And if you want to help support

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the show on Patreon, we have our supporter section.

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It's only $1 .74 to join. That does go towards

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hosting the show. And we really do appreciate

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it. And also Cameron Collins will drop some interviews

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in there. We've just started one last month.

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LA Galaxy fellow. Tolkien Scholar. It was incredible

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fun. Incredibly fun. We got some other good ones

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coming up. In the works. In the works. Speaking

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of in the works, it is the offseason, and all

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the clubs are doing stuff. Not much longer. Not

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much longer. I think some teams have already

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started training camps. Whoa. We've started training

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camp. That is true. That is true. It's the 14th.

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40 days. 40 days. That's all the offseason was.

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Yeah. So what I was getting at is that our rosters

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are constructed, right? So we now can kind of

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see what the work that's been done to both our

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team and others and kind of can start, I don't

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know, predicting, prognosticating what we think

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might happen. And there's a lot of paths to trophies

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this year, isn't there? Oh, yeah. A lot of chances

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to win. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so where should we start

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off? What should we be doing? We should be cracking

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one open. Go ahead. I'm going to figure out what's

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going on with my mic right now while you do that.

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Who's mic? That's the person in the mask locked

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up behind him. Is that not a Rainier? You are

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correct. This is a Pabst Blue Ribbon. I have

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my annual Colorado Pond Hockey Tournament, the

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Pabst Colorado Pond Hockey Tournament coming

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up in just a few weeks. You corporate whore.

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So I am training. I got to get ready for high

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altitude, 10 ,000 feet above sea level hockey.

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You were telling me about that a few months ago.

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That's pretty dope. It is. It is. So we get a

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lot of Pabst that weekend. And so, you know,

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I got to remind myself what it tastes like and,

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you know, I'm sorry. Hey, I like cheap beer.

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I mean, I do too, but it's not really. I mean,

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I much prefer a Pabst over like Keystone or anything

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with ice in the name. Natty Ice, man. I think

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for me, my order is Rainier, PBR, and then when

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I can get it, Yingling. I don't know what that

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is. Montucky Gold Snack? You know what? That's

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not bad. Yeah, Montucky's not bad. I'll take

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a Montucky. Is that what it's called? Gold Snack?

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Something like that. Yeah, Montucky. What are

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you drinking since you're not drinking in January

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there, Aaron? Eloqua. Although the other one

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is the Spindrift. The poppies are gone. Poppies

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are so good. Spindrift. Seriously, the prebiotic

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sodas. Spindrift is good too. What is it? Spindrift.

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Yeah, Spindruff is, but have you had a poppy?

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Oh, of course. Okay. I prefer Ollie. Check this

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out, guys. You know me and my stubby holders.

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I don't know if I mentioned this in the last

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show, Cameron, but I have a Yeti stubby holder.

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It's metal on the inside. You put it in the freezer,

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and then you put this cap on. Seals it. That's

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cool. So these are the ones that look like floaties

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in a pool, right? Coco Cabana. Ew. Upgrade. Yeti.

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Not a sponsor. And so no one's going to take

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the obvious joke about your stubby holder? No

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one? I'm drinking iced tea from Red Robin. That's

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what I'm drinking. From Red Robin? Yum. I had

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Red Robin delivered today. And when you get it

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delivered, you can get a giant bag of iced tea.

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So I got a giant bag of iced tea that's currently

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in my fridge. It's probably like two and a half

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liters or something like that. Okay, that's...

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It's only $8. It's probably the best deal on

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the menu. Okay. Let's hit it. Let's talk about

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shit. Game changer for the MLS, says World Soccer

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Talk. Game changer! They have a new trading system

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that is cash for player trades, which has never

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been allowed. It's similar to... essentially

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buying players like the transfer we can do everywhere

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else. I'm glad we can talk about this publicly

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now because Nicholas and I have known about this

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for a little bit, but it's not something that

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we were allowed to publicly speak on. But the

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new rules say that each team gets a maximum of

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two trades annually. And there's transparent

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transfer fees. So the fee amount will be publicly

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disclosed, which you don't see always in other

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places. And if a player is a DP or a U22, they

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retain those designations at their new club.

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So it brings out some pretty interesting stuff.

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Because of it, the contract buyouts have gone

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from one to two. So now you can have two contract

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buyouts. Before all the Raul Ruiz Diaz slash

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Craig Weibel haters get in on this, nothing has

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changed concerning guaranteed contracts. So if

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any portion of their contract is guaranteed,

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you're not getting cap relief if you cut a player

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that way, if they have a guaranteed contract

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in any portion. Just a sunk cost. Yep. There's

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adjustments to GAM. It no longer expires. It's

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good indefinitely. So you can, I guess, add it

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up over years to sign more players. And the transfer

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windows have changed. The secondary transfer

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window has shifted to better match the global

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transfer market. And so now it runs from July

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24th to August 21st. However, keep in mind this

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year for Miami and Seattle, we have a special

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window before Club World Cup. All teams in Club

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World Cup have a special window for like two

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weeks. before the tournament where did you learn

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that information that was in the fifa guidebook

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for all club world cup teams sweet what do you

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think about that that's special no i don't know

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how much that would come into play for us but

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it you know it is an option well that is a game

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changer um and not as confusing as i anticipated

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no it's pretty straightforward in fact it i mean

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it limits the number of moves you can make but

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it allows you know a player to be traded uh who

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maybe uh wouldn't be otherwise because you can

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now sell them for cash rather than gam well there

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are there are also a couple other little little

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things that that aren't so little um one of them

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being that if you loan an outgoing designated

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player um that mls team will open up that designated

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player slot during the loan period um so that

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that would so if we were to say loan raul ruidias

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as an example uh down to a peruvian team um then

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we could have opened up a dp slot during that

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time um and then the other thing is just a reminder

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this is not necessarily a new rule i think this

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was starting or maybe they announced it last

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year and it's it's now in place now teams have

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two options on how to do dp and under 22 uh spending

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so that that was announced at the beginning of

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the season but the new wrinkle is that you can

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switch halfway through the year go ahead yeah

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and so to thank you thank you and so the reminder

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is you can go with three designated players as

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traditional and then um it's three designated

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players and then that allows you to have three

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u22s or you can have two designated players wow

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i'm gonna get this messed up and i think it's

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like three view 22s and additional gam Does that

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sound right? Yeah, you can do three DPs and three

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U22s or two DPs and four U22s with the additional

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game. Okay. Yeah, and I think that's some of

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the, you know, it'll make it very interesting

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to see which teams do what. Like, as we'll get

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to teams like Dallas, I expect them to maybe

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go with two. and and keep all that gam i mean

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they have one right now so that's what i mean

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you know and then and then obviously the sounders

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are a three and three team um i mean let's look

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at that real quick so jesus ferrer is gone paul

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ariel is gone alan velasco is being uh sold so

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the only dp they currently have is petar musa

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and then they have uh dallas has giovanni jesus

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or jesus and this sally and leo chu as the 3u22

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slot so it'll be i i don't know if they've already

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did they already have to declare that's what

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i don't know is it so i was and i was going to

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say this is effective as the public announcement

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of it or like because because obviously jesus

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was a dp and no longer is that's contractual

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though he took a pay cut for that okay so could

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this trade happen now if we traded for him now

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he would remain a dp That's what I was trying

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to clarify. If we got cash instead of GAM, but

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you can still do the GAM trades. You can still

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do the old trades. It's just the new trades allow

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for cash instead of having to use Garber bucks.

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Real cash money. Exactly. Yeah. So it's going

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to be interesting what Atlanta does with all,

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you know, you think about the cash that their

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owner has and what they... Seriously. I mean,

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I think we've seen now with what has gone on.

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that considering the limitations that Garth had,

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he's probably the greatest executive in MLS history

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based on what he was allowed to do with the amount

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of money he was given. So it's pretty impressive.

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And so now that he's going to have infinite money,

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I'm excited to see what happens. And honestly,

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looking at the, I mean, we'll have more roster

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talk later, but we still have flexibility to

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sign like a nine, like you want Cameron or. another

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maybe roster flexibility i don't know if we we

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have the budget flexibility but i know so like

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going down the neck we could build on this season

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in the next year or two you know especially with

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the money that will come in from fifa competitions

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because we're going to win them all but yeah

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that that using real cash is could be i mean

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definitely for the big markets a game changer

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but i mean right now the sounders have three

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dps and one u22 Correct. They will get, which,

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you know, Pedro, Jordan, and Albert, U22's Josh.

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There will be another U22 from our internal,

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I bet, because that's what Craig's been saying

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for a year now. And then he mentioned that we,

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at his press conference, that we would potentially

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sign another U22 maybe. So I watched all the

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press conferences today. It was pretty fun just

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watching every new, you know. new and old sound

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player talk about what they think is coming this

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season what i think is interesting going slightly

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out talking about uh transfers and such as san

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jose because they're going to be uh they just

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picked up chicharango but for those keeping track

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and options he was hurt but still one of the

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the dangerous players yeah but um what's really

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interesting is that gives san jose at this point

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four dps So they have to get rid of one of Christian

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Espinosa, Hernan Lopez, or Carlos Guerzo. But

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they have five more weeks to do that. No, that's

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true. February 21st. But that's a roster compliance

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date. But it'll be interesting to see what they

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do there. And, you know, it's Bruce Arena taking

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control of everything. And we'll see what happens.

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Matt Doyle. our friend Matt Doyle, who works

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for MLS Soccer dot com now believes it's that

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it's going to be Gruzo. Is that how you say his

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name? I don't know for sure. That's that's that's

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what it is. So and they have no U -22s. So you

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could see them potentially coming up with some

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of those, which is so interesting because they

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were they had a few young superstars that have

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moved on to other teams. Well, they they Haven't

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had a consistent identity in a number of years

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now. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Which is too bad

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because I really liked the all or nothing approach

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that when what's his name was coaching. Hector

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or not Hector Mexico's. Oh gosh. What is his

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name? I don't remember. It's too long ago. Anyways,

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it was the COVID year when we were spanking them

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7 -0. I'd like more of that. Yeah. I mean, looking

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around the league, let's just do it. I'm not

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even going to necessarily go into the players,

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but Austin has three DPs and one U22. Of course,

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they brought in Brandes Vasquez, but Drissi is

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on his way out, so really they're going to be

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at 2 -1, so we don't know if they're going to

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the 2 -4 route or the 3. two route. So we will

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see what happens there. The Rapids have three

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and one. The Dallas, like we said, the Dallas

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has one and three. Houston has two and three.

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KC has two and two. LA has two and two. Other

00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:35.129
LA Galaxy has three and one. Minnesota is 3 -2.

00:16:35.330 --> 00:16:38.990
Portland has 2 -3. Salt Lake has 1 -4. So, so

00:16:38.990 --> 00:16:41.029
far, they're the only one to go the 4 -U -22

00:16:41.029 --> 00:16:45.009
route. Wait, I think you have Dallas backwards

00:16:45.009 --> 00:16:47.610
a little bit just because I think what you're

00:16:47.610 --> 00:16:49.409
looking at might have been before the trade.

00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:54.169
No, Dallas has one DP. Two. No, they have Peter

00:16:54.169 --> 00:16:58.450
Musa. That's it. As Velasco officially left?

00:16:58.590 --> 00:17:02.429
No, but he's being sold. They accepted a $10

00:17:02.429 --> 00:17:05.930
million offer for him. Okay. So he's gone. They're

00:17:05.930 --> 00:17:08.109
in complete rebuild. Well, Dallas is the new

00:17:08.109 --> 00:17:10.269
worst team in the MLS. They're the new San Jose.

00:17:11.950 --> 00:17:15.029
San Diego only has one and one though. So, oh,

00:17:15.109 --> 00:17:16.509
I guess I should finish. There's only two more.

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Three and two for St. Louis and three and two

00:17:19.569 --> 00:17:25.630
for Vancouver. Kevin De Bruyne rumors are coming

00:17:25.630 --> 00:17:28.549
back for San Diego. Yeah, yeah. So they obviously

00:17:28.549 --> 00:17:30.650
have money to spend. They want to make a splash.

00:17:31.390 --> 00:17:34.609
I don't know how good they are. San Diego also

00:17:34.609 --> 00:17:38.049
has $5 million in GAM left, which is pretty impressive.

00:17:38.390 --> 00:17:42.309
The Sounders have $4 .2 million left. So they

00:17:42.309 --> 00:17:43.609
could still make something happen potentially,

00:17:43.730 --> 00:17:47.650
but we'll see. So yeah, it's around the league.

00:17:47.670 --> 00:17:49.130
It looks like most people are going the traditional

00:17:49.130 --> 00:17:52.369
3DP route. But the big news is that that can

00:17:52.369 --> 00:17:55.569
change halfway through the season, right? Because

00:17:55.569 --> 00:17:58.670
you can decide, hey, this player wants to play

00:17:58.670 --> 00:18:00.349
for us. We're going to switch it up and drop

00:18:00.349 --> 00:18:10.470
a DP and pick up an extra U22. Hmm. Exciting

00:18:10.470 --> 00:18:12.970
stuff. Any other news come out of the MLS? I

00:18:12.970 --> 00:18:16.650
don't think they're, I mean, Inter -Miami signed

00:18:16.650 --> 00:18:22.000
a new player today. They signed Tadeo Allende

00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:28.299
on a one -year loan from Celta de Vigo in Spain.

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So they've got another quality player coming

00:18:33.579 --> 00:18:35.880
in for them, and I'm sure we'll see more of that.

00:18:35.940 --> 00:18:37.759
Sometimes it's hard not to get FOMO, but we'll

00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.980
get into that because I think FOMO isn't always

00:18:40.980 --> 00:18:44.960
what it's cracked up to be. Yeah. And I just

00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:46.980
want, you know, I already had put it in our show

00:18:46.980 --> 00:18:48.299
description because I didn't want to mention

00:18:48.299 --> 00:18:51.119
it. But Matt Doyle, who you just mentioned, did

00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:56.420
an article going over kind of everyone's where

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to go. Every team's like offseason, like who

00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:05.099
should they add? Yeah, that's essentially what

00:19:05.099 --> 00:19:08.180
I was looking at. It says what they have. okay

00:19:08.180 --> 00:19:10.940
good everything's biggest transfer need is preseason

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begins for the western conference it was released

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on tuesday january 14th which is today that's

00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:21.720
when we're recording yeah yep so um it's in there

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and he pretty much says that uh we have the highest

00:19:24.339 --> 00:19:26.519
floor in the league and don't need to make any

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changes and if we did any would be in the middle

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of the park yeah we'll talk about it we'll talk

00:19:32.339 --> 00:19:34.200
about it i mean here's the thing is portland's

00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.000
making moves they're trying to get some defenders

00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:39.009
in there If they get their defense broken down

00:19:39.009 --> 00:19:44.150
solidly, they're going to be good. News broke

00:19:44.150 --> 00:19:46.630
earlier today that San Diego is trying to sign

00:19:46.630 --> 00:19:48.930
U .S. men's national team midfielder Luca De

00:19:48.930 --> 00:19:51.170
La Torre, which would be a pretty good signing

00:19:51.170 --> 00:19:54.549
for them. Chicago Fire is trying to get a Fiorentina

00:19:54.549 --> 00:19:59.250
winger. Chicago picked up former sounder Sam

00:19:59.250 --> 00:20:01.150
Rogers. Yeah, they did, which is interesting

00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:03.630
because they have a lot of defenders. And then

00:20:03.630 --> 00:20:07.869
they signed Jack. What's his name? Jack. I'm

00:20:07.869 --> 00:20:09.269
blanking on his name right now. The guy from

00:20:09.269 --> 00:20:13.210
Philly. Bryce is what was in my head too, but

00:20:13.210 --> 00:20:18.230
that's not right. Isn't it like M. McGurney or

00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:23.470
something? I don't know. Toronto just signed

00:20:23.470 --> 00:20:25.349
a player from Girona, and they have a new head

00:20:25.349 --> 00:20:31.339
coach, of course, with the old... robin frazier

00:20:31.339 --> 00:20:33.920
the old coach of colorado and before that i mean

00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:35.420
he might have been in teams in between that but

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i remember most notably is shivas usa that one

00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:42.480
year they were kind of fun so uh still moves

00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.140
coming there's still time right there's there

00:20:44.140 --> 00:20:47.119
until the roster doesn't freeze but uh you've

00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:49.299
got to you've got to make sure you're within

00:20:49.299 --> 00:20:54.140
the roster rules by that date so um i think the

00:20:54.140 --> 00:20:58.309
sounders have announced what four moves recently

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and and they might have one more coming yeah

00:21:02.650 --> 00:21:05.670
they announced jp's re -signing albert signing

00:21:05.670 --> 00:21:13.450
uh paul areola and jesus ferrara so on top of

00:21:13.450 --> 00:21:20.609
leo bernie and um yes so so why don't we start

00:21:20.609 --> 00:21:25.079
there how do you feel about the state of the

00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:27.480
Sounders as of right now? Do you think this has

00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.740
been, how do you feel about this transfer window

00:21:30.740 --> 00:21:33.480
in the offseason? Well, why don't we take that

00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:37.380
and turn it into Alex's question or request of

00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:39.440
us to rate our offseason signing and offloading?

00:21:39.779 --> 00:21:41.839
Perfect. Let's do that. Why don't you read the

00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:43.940
question and fold the way he wrote it? That's

00:21:43.940 --> 00:21:46.740
it. Rate our offseason signing and offloading

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from 1 to 10. 10 being great. I'm going to give

00:21:50.380 --> 00:21:58.480
it a 7 .5. Why? Because I think Craig Weibel

00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:01.740
absolutely fleeced Dallas on the two trades.

00:22:01.980 --> 00:22:05.720
I mean, you brought in two players at well, well,

00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.039
well below their value. You had them rework contracts

00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:12.460
so they don't hit the threshold the way they

00:22:12.460 --> 00:22:16.359
did. They could then both fit within the salary

00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.660
cap. And it's an upgrade. Both players are an

00:22:19.660 --> 00:22:22.809
upgrade at various positions. Uh, you know, I

00:22:22.809 --> 00:22:25.569
think based on, uh, what Christian said in his

00:22:25.569 --> 00:22:28.250
press conference today, he's no longer a winger.

00:22:28.329 --> 00:22:29.890
He'll be playing in the middle of the field,

00:22:30.009 --> 00:22:33.789
whether that's as an eight or a six. So, uh,

00:22:34.009 --> 00:22:38.809
I think you bring in a, uh, another Paul is an

00:22:38.809 --> 00:22:42.130
Areola and he can play on the left or right,

00:22:42.190 --> 00:22:44.309
but obviously he's great on the right. Usually

00:22:44.309 --> 00:22:46.089
for USA, that's where he played. He can play

00:22:46.089 --> 00:22:48.089
at a wing back as well. So if we're playing five

00:22:48.089 --> 00:22:51.049
at the back, he'll play back there. and uh we've

00:22:51.049 --> 00:22:53.150
just seen it's i think it's a it's a big upgrade

00:22:53.150 --> 00:22:58.849
uh in terms of of that so uh i think we we moved

00:22:58.849 --> 00:23:03.690
on from chu who we talked about a lot was a not

00:23:03.690 --> 00:23:07.170
an expensive piece but when you can exchange

00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:10.609
him for a jesus ferreira who can play both wings

00:23:10.609 --> 00:23:13.390
the ten and the nine and hopefully we're gonna

00:23:13.390 --> 00:23:15.329
be playing two at the top so he'll be playing

00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.599
Jordan up top with him right behind him, kind

00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:20.819
of like Dempsey used to do for Oba. And then

00:23:20.819 --> 00:23:23.200
I think it's going to be unstoppable up there

00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.819
because we'll have so much service. I think what

00:23:27.819 --> 00:23:30.160
they did with Pedro de la Vega, telling him to

00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.400
come in stronger, which Brian Schmetzer said

00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:33.940
today in his press conference, that's what they

00:23:33.940 --> 00:23:35.819
did. And he's come in stronger and he's in shape.

00:23:36.539 --> 00:23:42.660
So that's a huge thing. And so I think, you know,

00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:46.500
we had the best defense. We addressed a bunch

00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:49.279
of needs. And I think by moving Atencio back

00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.440
to center back, we also addressed the fact that

00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.799
Yamar is getting older, which, of course, Brian

00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.460
mentioned in his press conference day as well.

00:23:56.140 --> 00:23:59.859
So I think all in all, we improved a team that

00:23:59.859 --> 00:24:02.619
finished, what, fourth in the West last year

00:24:02.619 --> 00:24:07.720
and was the final two in the West. Do I think

00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.319
we're as good as the L .A.'s? No. I think we

00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:14.039
needed to bring in a U22 type player, high -end

00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:20.680
U22 or a DP, a younger DP who either at wing

00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:23.279
or forward who could score or create a ton of

00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.759
goals. We did not do that. So although we upgraded,

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.259
I think we could have upgraded more. I will say

00:24:30.259 --> 00:24:33.339
Jesus Ferreira, I mean, we brought in a player

00:24:33.339 --> 00:24:37.910
for very little whose value is... upwards of

00:24:37.910 --> 00:24:39.509
10 million but i would have liked to seen like

00:24:39.509 --> 00:24:42.369
a 15 20 million player brought in so see this

00:24:42.369 --> 00:24:44.490
push i'll push back a little bit on that but

00:24:44.490 --> 00:24:47.569
let me finish and then because uh i don't think

00:24:47.569 --> 00:24:50.430
george i mean everyone's doing jordan uh the

00:24:50.430 --> 00:24:53.410
fact that he earned himself into being a dp brian

00:24:53.410 --> 00:24:56.390
mentioned today that he it wasn't until he moved

00:24:56.390 --> 00:24:58.430
him strictly to forward halfway through the season

00:24:58.430 --> 00:25:02.390
well that means he really did everything in a

00:25:02.390 --> 00:25:03.970
quarter of a season because the last quarter

00:25:03.970 --> 00:25:06.799
of the season he didn't show up other than the

00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:08.420
one goal in the playoffs, which he scored from

00:25:08.420 --> 00:25:11.460
the wing, he had 11 straight games where he didn't

00:25:11.460 --> 00:25:13.940
score from forward. So he had four goals in that

00:25:13.940 --> 00:25:18.700
time, all from the wing. So he has not proven

00:25:18.700 --> 00:25:20.160
it to me. So he's got to go out and prove that

00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.839
he's a DP. I think he's a low -end DP compared

00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.339
to what other teams have. And so I see the fact

00:25:26.339 --> 00:25:28.700
that we did not bring in a higher level player

00:25:28.700 --> 00:25:31.539
as the one hit. So we're not going to hang with

00:25:31.539 --> 00:25:34.660
both LAs. That doesn't mean we can't finish second.

00:25:35.099 --> 00:25:36.579
but right now we're the third best team in the

00:25:36.579 --> 00:25:43.799
west champagne problems aaron nicholas oh yeah

00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:45.619
nicholas you already had a thought ready to go

00:25:45.619 --> 00:25:49.700
yeah um i'm gonna start i'm gonna rate it as

00:25:49.700 --> 00:25:53.599
an eight i think there's a lot of good things

00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:56.339
about what you said there i i just keep coming

00:25:56.339 --> 00:26:02.039
back to people shitting on jesus ferreras uh

00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.799
proven stat sheet already oh i'm not that no

00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.019
no i think he is a they brought in a dp level

00:26:08.019 --> 00:26:10.240
player for sure i'm just saying we needed another

00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:13.579
piece on top of him i get it but you were you

00:26:13.579 --> 00:26:15.660
were saying oh we didn't bring in the way you

00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:17.839
were you were saying it is we didn't bring in

00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.259
an attacking player i wanted to get gabriel peck

00:26:21.259 --> 00:26:24.680
i wanted a best player in the league type player

00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.839
jesus well it depends on what jesus we're getting

00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.880
if we're getting jesus from two years ago we

00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.440
got that yep you know if we're getting the jesus

00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.180
from last year maybe not so that's why i'm going

00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:39.180
to give it an eight because and where i'm gonna

00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:42.059
give craig weibel a lot of credit and you touched

00:26:42.059 --> 00:26:45.339
on it again as dallas absolutely got fleeced

00:26:45.339 --> 00:26:47.900
now we were able to do that because they're on

00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:50.279
a fire sale right now but still well look they

00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.539
still sold velasco for 10 million and we got

00:26:52.539 --> 00:26:57.160
we got jesus ferreira for pennies yes and especially

00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.400
when you look at just the fact that you keep

00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.819
this in mind as well When you re -sign a player

00:27:03.819 --> 00:27:07.660
like that and you get him to take under DP dollars,

00:27:07.980 --> 00:27:12.839
you are having the Jordan Morris problem. What

00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.480
just happened this year with Jordan Morris? Jordan

00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.960
Morris was told in his contract if he hit certain

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.079
performance metrics, he would get DP automatically

00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.670
in his contract. I have a sneaking suspicion

00:27:26.670 --> 00:27:29.910
that that's written into Jesus Ferreira's contract

00:27:29.910 --> 00:27:31.990
as well. Like if you hit certain performance

00:27:31.990 --> 00:27:35.089
metrics, these things will happen. Now, what

00:27:35.089 --> 00:27:38.769
will likely happen is the club wisely recognize

00:27:38.769 --> 00:27:41.910
that, oh, if he hits these performance metrics,

00:27:42.049 --> 00:27:44.869
well, then that's going to mean that we're going

00:27:44.869 --> 00:27:47.849
to be able to sell him for a lot more than what

00:27:47.849 --> 00:27:50.609
we brought him. Or Rusnak has a second year option.

00:27:50.690 --> 00:27:53.740
He's gone after one year. Now that could, I mean,

00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:56.000
either way, it gives us way more roster flexibility.

00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.980
And that's been one of the issues we had from

00:27:58.980 --> 00:28:03.880
our time post -2020 when we were going for it

00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.240
for Champions League is we painted ourselves

00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:10.440
into a few corners. We re -signed Rui Diaz, we

00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.339
re -signed Lodero, and we knew at the end of

00:28:13.339 --> 00:28:15.710
those contracts that we were going to be... it

00:28:15.710 --> 00:28:17.309
was going to be a little tight for a bit when

00:28:17.309 --> 00:28:19.789
they were not necessarily performing up to those

00:28:19.789 --> 00:28:22.930
contracts. Now you have the inverse. You're bringing

00:28:22.930 --> 00:28:27.690
in Jesus Ferreira, and he's a TAM player. So

00:28:27.690 --> 00:28:31.150
you have this great flexibility of being able

00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:34.269
to complement that in a different way. So really,

00:28:34.369 --> 00:28:39.049
really excited about that. The trade for Areola.

00:28:39.630 --> 00:28:42.690
uh same thing areola took a pay cut to to come

00:28:42.690 --> 00:28:46.509
to seattle um i saw a quote uh i saw a quote

00:28:46.509 --> 00:28:49.730
somewhere where either jesus or paul were saying

00:28:49.730 --> 00:28:54.369
i want to play for a winner you know uh and and

00:28:54.369 --> 00:28:57.650
and that's something that we get as a sounders

00:28:57.650 --> 00:29:00.450
and we i posted in our discord but we talked

00:29:00.450 --> 00:29:05.769
about the fact that areola and and and uh Jesus

00:29:05.769 --> 00:29:10.009
became the second pair of American players in

00:29:10.009 --> 00:29:14.730
MLS history in 2022 to each have double -digit

00:29:14.730 --> 00:29:17.950
goals. The first pair ever to do it, of course,

00:29:17.970 --> 00:29:22.130
was Clint Dempsey and Will Bruin. Yeah, and that's

00:29:22.130 --> 00:29:25.809
just crazy. Right there, we didn't mention the

00:29:25.809 --> 00:29:27.490
numbers on the Areola trade. I mean, it was only

00:29:27.490 --> 00:29:31.039
300 ,000 in GAM and a first -round pick. And

00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.160
we've talked about the limited value of first

00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:34.720
round picks, especially if the Sounders perform

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.460
like they typically perform. When we're picking

00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:40.940
in the high 20s, it's like, who cares? I mean,

00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:42.859
you're getting a player who potentially could

00:29:42.859 --> 00:29:47.259
start if you nail it, but usually not. So, I

00:29:47.259 --> 00:29:50.819
mean, both those trades, just people get mad

00:29:50.819 --> 00:29:54.059
at Weibel, but I feel like he's doing a genius

00:29:54.059 --> 00:29:58.240
job with what he's been given. I'm very pleased

00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:03.089
with these things. i get the consternation about

00:30:03.089 --> 00:30:09.410
not getting a overseas dp transfer um there are

00:30:09.410 --> 00:30:14.569
risks and rewards to that for sure i will say

00:30:14.569 --> 00:30:18.710
that if we did not get jesus ferreira then i

00:30:18.710 --> 00:30:23.150
would have been really upset because but the

00:30:23.150 --> 00:30:31.230
jesus deal in itself was a master class in um

00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:37.170
in creating a trade in a creative manner that

00:30:37.170 --> 00:30:42.289
allows you to maximize the impact on your internal

00:30:42.289 --> 00:30:47.509
uh cap hit yeah and really really pleased with

00:30:47.509 --> 00:30:50.210
that but you could bring in a player of higher

00:30:50.210 --> 00:30:53.430
value that would have hit the cap at a number

00:30:53.430 --> 00:30:55.710
that would have prevented us from being able

00:30:55.710 --> 00:30:57.910
to sign a player like Paul Areola. So if you're

00:30:57.910 --> 00:31:01.849
bringing in that DP that I want, you probably

00:31:01.849 --> 00:31:05.730
don't also bring in Paul Areola. And so you've

00:31:05.730 --> 00:31:07.930
just upgraded at two positions instead of one.

00:31:08.410 --> 00:31:11.640
And actually, you also don't bring in... you

00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:13.940
also don't bring in uh albert rusnak true yeah

00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:17.660
because you because because jordan's dp salary

00:31:17.660 --> 00:31:19.460
was triggered automatically yeah that's right

00:31:19.460 --> 00:31:22.480
because of his contract that's locked in so you

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.420
had three players for for the major one there

00:31:25.420 --> 00:31:32.059
exactly uh do we have a superstar tbd we have

00:31:32.059 --> 00:31:35.380
players We have multiple players that can be

00:31:35.380 --> 00:31:38.200
superstars. And you know where I'll start? And

00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:40.599
some of those are young players. Jackson Reagan,

00:31:40.859 --> 00:31:44.119
you don't see superstars in the center back position

00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.339
because it's not a sexy pick, but that can be

00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:50.579
a long -term thing. Jesus Ferreira can absolutely

00:31:50.579 --> 00:31:53.920
be a superstar. Again, do not forget, just last

00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:58.829
season, a Russian team offered... signed a deal

00:31:58.829 --> 00:32:02.269
for 13 million and mls blocked that transfer

00:32:02.269 --> 00:32:03.809
i mean that's that's what you got to think about

00:32:03.809 --> 00:32:06.329
is you got a player who we know the value is

00:32:06.329 --> 00:32:09.349
set at around 13 million based on what he was

00:32:09.349 --> 00:32:12.789
doing and so you brought in a player for leo

00:32:12.789 --> 00:32:16.789
chu and two million dollars a gam not even real

00:32:16.789 --> 00:32:21.890
money garber bucks for for 13 million wait i

00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:23.789
i need to i need to build off of that a little

00:32:23.789 --> 00:32:27.029
bit not only the leo chu and that you actually

00:32:27.869 --> 00:32:30.569
gave yourself even more options than you think

00:32:30.569 --> 00:32:32.869
because you brought in a player who was a dp

00:32:32.869 --> 00:32:37.509
you got him to buy down to a tam and you sent

00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:42.450
off one of your u22 dps thus opening up in additional

00:32:42.450 --> 00:32:46.670
spots you basically got two dp level spots in

00:32:46.670 --> 00:32:50.470
this trade opened up one from buying down jesus

00:32:50.470 --> 00:32:54.269
one from from shipping off uh leo chu just a

00:32:54.269 --> 00:32:56.990
master class and i mean this is the stuff where

00:32:56.990 --> 00:33:00.890
it's easy to not appreciate if you aren't nerding

00:33:00.890 --> 00:33:07.170
out over the roster rules but i i think i nerd

00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:09.890
out a little bit and i love it i i absolutely

00:33:09.890 --> 00:33:13.009
love it and what do you think and what do you

00:33:13.009 --> 00:33:15.710
say to people who don't think that we're on par

00:33:15.710 --> 00:33:18.049
with la like i i don't think we're as good as

00:33:18.049 --> 00:33:20.680
the la is yet What do you think about that? I

00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.859
was beginning to wonder if I should just say

00:33:22.859 --> 00:33:27.480
my number and move on. This is the discussion

00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.119
that's been going on nonstop everywhere on the

00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.779
internet. I mean, come on. I know people are

00:33:33.779 --> 00:33:35.960
upset, but let's cut some of the negativity.

00:33:36.339 --> 00:33:42.160
You can say things on our board on Discord without

00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.460
being angry. You can give your opinion. People

00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:47.579
are so mad. It's like soul -sucking right now.

00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.200
It's not just us. It's Facebook. It's Twitter.

00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:54.319
It's Reddit. But we haven't even kicked the ball

00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.400
yet. I think this will be one of the more cohesive

00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:03.960
seasons this club may ever have. Not have. Have

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:11.280
had. Sorry. Sinacy. I mean, that's what our problem

00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.380
was. You already mentioned our defense was great.

00:34:14.300 --> 00:34:22.559
We got a proven. scorer not not as it's jesus

00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.599
is flashy when you start looking at his numbers

00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.400
and look at his recent history yes he had uh

00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.360
wasn't it an injury last year that kind of hampered

00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.079
very this season they were playing yeah playing

00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.340
that's my areola right right wing and that's

00:34:35.340 --> 00:34:37.320
my point let's look let's look you have joel

00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:41.380
paulo christian rolled on albert rustak um you'll

00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:45.159
have jordan morris who is a better maybe distractor

00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.940
of the defense than a facilitator himself but

00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.219
Pedro de la Vega was going to be my cap to feed

00:34:51.219 --> 00:34:55.500
Jesus. That's a lot of quality on the ball, a

00:34:55.500 --> 00:34:57.719
lot of great vision, and a lot of cohesiveness

00:34:57.719 --> 00:34:59.940
already. Jesus and Paul are going to be the new

00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:03.760
guys. They played together, and they're experienced.

00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.019
Paul Areola's played in Liga and Mechies for

00:35:08.019 --> 00:35:10.639
years. Yeah, he was a wingback there. He talked

00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:12.900
about that in his interview where that's his

00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:17.179
natural position. Yeah, and that's likely what

00:35:17.179 --> 00:35:19.099
we're going to see if you look in our Discord,

00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:23.800
I think, who brought that formation up. Eric13.

00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.739
Thank you, Eric. I do love that formation, which

00:35:27.739 --> 00:35:31.340
is JMoJesus at the top, Rothrock, Rustneck, Areola,

00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:35.039
Obed, CR7. I mean, I don't think you play Rothrock.

00:35:35.539 --> 00:35:38.280
I mean, he has them there as well. I also include

00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.300
Pedro. If you drop them back, right, you could

00:35:41.300 --> 00:35:44.280
put Areola. on the right i wouldn't have rothrock

00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.699
i would have pedro de la vega on the field i

00:35:46.699 --> 00:35:49.400
think he forgot him yeah for sure but i mean

00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.960
that i think i think people are discounting pedro

00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.639
i think people think because of last season uh

00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.880
they didn't see the moments of brilliance that

00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:01.619
some of us saw they didn't realize the um i mean

00:36:01.619 --> 00:36:03.519
they've talked about it the pressure's on him

00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.500
now he's he's no longer has to get acclimated

00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:08.659
to a new country he's no longer a kid he's coming

00:36:08.659 --> 00:36:11.699
in with adult expectations and has to perform

00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:15.510
They're expecting him to get assists. And I expect

00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:20.449
him to actually play up to that. If he stays

00:36:20.449 --> 00:36:23.949
healthy, I think he will. Well, yeah. You just

00:36:23.949 --> 00:36:26.710
assume healthy, right? Shit happens. And he obviously

00:36:26.710 --> 00:36:28.750
was pockmarked with injuries. Before he blew

00:36:28.750 --> 00:36:32.389
out his knee, he was on pace to be – he was already,

00:36:32.469 --> 00:36:35.150
I think, in the B squad of Argentina. He was

00:36:35.150 --> 00:36:37.409
on pace to eventually make the A squad. within

00:36:37.409 --> 00:36:40.510
a few years like this dude has all the talent

00:36:40.510 --> 00:36:43.630
in the world his injuries that he got for the

00:36:43.630 --> 00:36:45.530
sounders were not related to the other injury

00:36:45.530 --> 00:36:51.289
can i ask you a question what do atencio reagan

00:36:51.289 --> 00:36:55.110
fry ferreira areola morris and roldan all have

00:36:55.110 --> 00:37:02.849
in common they play for the sounders and um they've

00:37:02.849 --> 00:37:05.130
gotten called up to the u .s national youth at

00:37:05.130 --> 00:37:08.530
least at a youth level No, senior. All of them

00:37:08.530 --> 00:37:10.369
have gotten called up to the senior level. Even

00:37:10.369 --> 00:37:16.650
Fry. He did get called up before he got his U

00:37:16.650 --> 00:37:19.670
.S. citizenship, actually. So he was in camp,

00:37:19.730 --> 00:37:22.309
but he wasn't. He got called up into a camp.

00:37:22.550 --> 00:37:25.349
How many caps is that? I think it's still all

00:37:25.349 --> 00:37:29.610
areola and haze in Jordan. But the point is that

00:37:29.610 --> 00:37:34.300
there's still a quality level. Yeah, because

00:37:34.300 --> 00:37:37.440
Fry talked about it today in his press conference

00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.659
that he doesn't know Areola, but he knows that

00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:46.219
Christian's really good friends with him. I think

00:37:46.219 --> 00:37:48.719
Christian had a nice quote today that both Jesus

00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:52.980
and Areola are two more bilingual players who...

00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:56.639
Yeah, they can help translate. So it's not just

00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:58.639
Christian doing it is what he said. Well, no,

00:37:58.699 --> 00:38:01.280
no. So there are multiple players in the team

00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.719
that are bilingual. And that just, I think, adds

00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:08.360
to clubhouse chemistry. And I think both Areola

00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:11.539
and – In general. Well, both Areola and Jesus

00:38:11.539 --> 00:38:16.139
Ferreira, this is the third team that Jordan

00:38:16.139 --> 00:38:22.300
Morris has played with Areola on between – over

00:38:22.300 --> 00:38:25.760
in in Wales when Swansea they were there at the

00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.219
same time same time same time yeah another so

00:38:30.219 --> 00:38:34.400
serial US national team and now Sounders but

00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.219
but what I'm getting at is you're bringing in

00:38:36.219 --> 00:38:40.739
two new players but those players have some familiarity

00:38:40.739 --> 00:38:43.460
with other members of our team and that's only

00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:45.719
going to be good for chemistry yeah and that's

00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:48.119
something that we spoke about multiple times

00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.460
last year is this team had tremendous chemistry

00:38:51.460 --> 00:38:54.219
so i'm really excited then you keep glue players

00:38:54.219 --> 00:38:58.579
such as a xiaopalo re -signing him and hopefully

00:38:58.579 --> 00:39:01.420
if they can get the deal over over the over the

00:39:01.420 --> 00:39:04.539
hump the kim ki he signing as a as a backup center

00:39:04.539 --> 00:39:08.179
back that would be you know i i'm very happy

00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:10.659
i didn't know about that news yeah oh yeah kim

00:39:10.659 --> 00:39:14.019
ki he's uh you know the deal's not done yet but

00:39:14.019 --> 00:39:18.150
uh is likely to come back There was a report

00:39:18.150 --> 00:39:21.210
today that there was a snag with his former team,

00:39:21.369 --> 00:39:22.929
and if they don't get it resolved in the next

00:39:22.929 --> 00:39:25.769
few days, they'll move on. Well, there's a chance.

00:39:25.849 --> 00:39:29.449
That'd be cool. I mean, he's played a lot of

00:39:29.449 --> 00:39:31.130
minutes for that team the last two years, and

00:39:31.130 --> 00:39:33.869
even though he's 36, I think he played most of

00:39:33.869 --> 00:39:36.130
their games. Well, they're in the Club World

00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:39.130
Cup as well. Oh, yeah. That makes sense why they

00:39:39.130 --> 00:39:41.670
don't want to move on from him. Yeah, Olsan,

00:39:41.829 --> 00:39:44.489
Hyundai. Wait, where are they playing? They're

00:39:44.489 --> 00:39:47.829
not playing us. No. We're going to have like

00:39:47.829 --> 00:39:50.809
a love triangle of clubs with JP's Botafogo.

00:39:50.909 --> 00:39:53.650
And if Kim Key joins us, then his team's in there.

00:39:54.010 --> 00:39:56.949
Yeah. That'd be awkward. We should go to break

00:39:56.949 --> 00:40:01.389
just because we're about halfway and I am sick

00:40:01.389 --> 00:40:02.710
and would like to get some sleep, but I want

00:40:02.710 --> 00:40:05.110
to keep talking sounders. So I guess we'll go

00:40:05.110 --> 00:40:23.320
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00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:29.360
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-T -R -E -O -N dot C -O -M. Now back to your

00:41:45.769 --> 00:41:59.530
regularly scheduled programming. Okay, we are

00:41:59.530 --> 00:42:02.050
back. Yeah, I missed it by two seconds, Nick.

00:42:02.090 --> 00:42:07.989
What? All right, so let's just continue the conversation.

00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:10.110
We still have some Discord stuff we should bring

00:42:10.110 --> 00:42:14.210
out. I think maybe we could look at where we

00:42:14.210 --> 00:42:21.210
think this team is. I saw it right here. Give

00:42:21.210 --> 00:42:22.969
us your predictions to the season and where do

00:42:22.969 --> 00:42:25.050
you see the Sounders standings and MLS realistically?

00:42:25.429 --> 00:42:28.829
That's from Alex as well. Why don't you start

00:42:28.829 --> 00:42:30.570
us off on this one, Aaron? Yeah, I already said

00:42:30.570 --> 00:42:39.179
third. God, that's tough. Because he follows

00:42:39.179 --> 00:42:41.219
up mentioning the other competition. So I'm just

00:42:41.219 --> 00:42:43.099
going to think MLS because that's what he says.

00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:49.099
I don't think first. I think second, though.

00:42:49.179 --> 00:42:52.340
I think this team is going to be what I wished

00:42:52.340 --> 00:42:54.440
for, I think, in the last episode was to be,

00:42:54.579 --> 00:42:58.519
I want a consistent winner. I think we're really

00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.519
going to compete every single game. We're not

00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.380
going to have as many valleys as we've been used

00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:07.289
to. I think the depth is there for it. us to

00:43:07.289 --> 00:43:10.650
be that good in the defense what do you think

00:43:10.650 --> 00:43:12.409
about the fact that we will be playing other

00:43:12.409 --> 00:43:15.070
tournaments though that will interrupt so like

00:43:15.070 --> 00:43:17.889
we're going to be putting starters in for non

00:43:17.889 --> 00:43:21.210
-mls games for example at least the second well

00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:23.429
that's where i'm comfortable with uh the youth

00:43:23.429 --> 00:43:26.849
we've been playing for three four years um that

00:43:26.849 --> 00:43:31.610
can fill in those spots amicably and we are deeper

00:43:31.610 --> 00:43:35.780
across the board i still want to see We mentioned

00:43:35.780 --> 00:43:38.800
the five -back, wing -back system, right? But

00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:39.940
there's going to be matches where we don't do

00:43:39.940 --> 00:43:42.480
that. I don't really like our left and right

00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:47.519
-back depth. No, I actually think that if we

00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:49.500
were doing it right, we would be putting Christian

00:43:49.500 --> 00:43:54.219
at right -back at this point. We may. Yeah, the

00:43:54.219 --> 00:43:56.760
ball has been kicked. Christian said he's going

00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.880
to be in the middle of the field. But I think

00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:00.940
we should be putting him out there. Yeah, but

00:44:00.940 --> 00:44:02.400
he's not going to be in the middle of the field

00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:03.639
every single match for the rest of the season.

00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:05.360
But there may be times, yeah, there may be times

00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.800
where, you know, because you've got Reed Baker

00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.699
Whiting who can play in the back. Depending on

00:44:11.699 --> 00:44:16.980
what happens, Paul Areola has been a wingback

00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:20.460
for Dallas and setting up a lot of productivity

00:44:20.460 --> 00:44:24.239
in the wingback position. Yeah, but that would

00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:26.340
be playing with five backs, which I still...

00:44:26.670 --> 00:44:28.510
i want two forwards and you're not doing i don't

00:44:28.510 --> 00:44:29.849
think you're doing two forwards with five backs

00:44:29.849 --> 00:44:33.289
i do think that paul ariola will paul areola

00:44:33.289 --> 00:44:41.690
will be a upgraded version of what kellen rowe

00:44:41.690 --> 00:44:45.090
was to us just playing in so many different spots

00:44:45.090 --> 00:44:49.070
just playing just kind of where we need him plug

00:44:49.070 --> 00:44:53.329
and play i think i have a feeling areola will

00:44:54.110 --> 00:44:58.250
end up making over 30 starts on this team. Yeah.

00:44:58.269 --> 00:45:01.190
So I realistically say second is where we'll

00:45:01.190 --> 00:45:03.210
finish. Nick, just finish it. Where do you think

00:45:03.210 --> 00:45:09.510
we'll finish? Yeah. I think that depends on what

00:45:09.510 --> 00:45:14.269
kind of roster formation flexibility we end up

00:45:14.269 --> 00:45:18.110
using. If we stick with just our traditional

00:45:18.110 --> 00:45:23.280
setup. I think we might struggle a little bit,

00:45:23.300 --> 00:45:26.920
but if we can unlock, you know, a three center

00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:31.360
back setup, like we did when we were really successful

00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.619
during that COVID year in 2020, if we can get

00:45:34.619 --> 00:45:38.800
back to that and have a Reagan, Yamar, new who's

00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:43.289
three center back system, I do think that. That

00:45:43.289 --> 00:45:47.130
can unlock some really good stuff. And I'm going

00:45:47.130 --> 00:45:50.789
to say second, though, in the end. I do. I do

00:45:50.789 --> 00:45:52.389
think we're going to finish second. I would say

00:45:52.389 --> 00:45:54.530
first if we weren't in so many damn competitions.

00:45:56.269 --> 00:46:01.170
Wow. I just want two forwards. That's all I want.

00:46:01.269 --> 00:46:03.050
That's all I've ever wanted is two forwards.

00:46:03.269 --> 00:46:06.329
One forward isn't getting it done for us. We

00:46:06.329 --> 00:46:09.949
need an Oba Dempsey type pairing. And we at least

00:46:09.949 --> 00:46:12.809
have the Dempsey. I'm not convinced we have the

00:46:12.809 --> 00:46:14.969
Oba, but Jordan can go out and prove me wrong.

00:46:17.150 --> 00:46:19.369
So in this case, are you saying, hey, Zeus is

00:46:19.369 --> 00:46:23.170
the Dempsey? Yeah. Okay. Yep. And I think his

00:46:23.170 --> 00:46:26.929
skills are probably on par in terms of his ability

00:46:26.929 --> 00:46:31.170
to score and create. And try shit? I don't know

00:46:31.170 --> 00:46:33.039
if he can try shit like Dempsey. well they're

00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.539
not the same player obviously very very few people

00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:39.119
in mls history have but but like you said you

00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:41.519
think areola will play 30 matches i mean he paid

00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:45.679
31 last year 25 and 23 and 34 and 22. so yeah

00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.360
i mean i would expect most of our players are

00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.159
going to play at least 30 matches because we're

00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.940
going to pay over 50 this year well i mean i

00:46:52.940 --> 00:46:56.300
mean starting 30 matches i'm saying starting

00:46:56.300 --> 00:46:59.760
30 matches and i do not think so who's getting

00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.369
the short end of the stick then I just think

00:47:02.369 --> 00:47:03.929
that's going to come natural. I think he's going

00:47:03.929 --> 00:47:05.989
to do – look at the year when Kellen Rowe played

00:47:05.989 --> 00:47:08.630
every single match for us when he had no business.

00:47:08.630 --> 00:47:12.570
He was starting a lot of them because we just

00:47:12.570 --> 00:47:15.070
needed different spots. But that's what I'm saying.

00:47:15.150 --> 00:47:17.570
Life happens in an MLS season. But who's missing

00:47:17.570 --> 00:47:20.510
out then? Because if he's – He's saying anyone

00:47:20.510 --> 00:47:24.329
can be an ankle for a week, a hip for a week.

00:47:25.090 --> 00:47:28.769
He's the player that I think can get on the field.

00:47:28.829 --> 00:47:31.349
He's the whack -a -mole. Yeah, I think he's the

00:47:31.349 --> 00:47:35.530
Brad Evans. He's the Kellen Rowe. He's the player

00:47:35.530 --> 00:47:38.710
that you can put in too many positions. He's

00:47:38.710 --> 00:47:42.269
better than both those players. But what he does,

00:47:42.369 --> 00:47:45.789
that flexibility, is the same as how we previously

00:47:45.789 --> 00:47:48.690
utilized those two players. And so that's what

00:47:48.690 --> 00:47:52.190
I'm saying. I think he might end up starting

00:47:52.190 --> 00:47:55.110
30 -plus games for this team. I think there's

00:47:55.110 --> 00:47:58.570
enough depth and talent on this team and experience

00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:02.349
Even if we're facing a flashy team like either

00:48:02.349 --> 00:48:06.969
L .A. or a Miami at full strength, we're going

00:48:06.969 --> 00:48:09.530
to hold our own if not win more than half of

00:48:09.530 --> 00:48:11.849
them. If we can score, we have to prove we can

00:48:11.849 --> 00:48:18.230
score. But I have to say, if Schmetzer doesn't

00:48:18.230 --> 00:48:23.730
produce wins with this roster, I mean, that's

00:48:23.730 --> 00:48:29.809
a problem. I mean, we have... we have the defense

00:48:29.809 --> 00:48:33.909
defense even the la game in the playoffs we did

00:48:33.909 --> 00:48:38.170
things to la that no team had done for over half

00:48:38.170 --> 00:48:40.769
a season you know shutting them out at home for

00:48:40.769 --> 00:48:44.349
70 plus minutes you know things like this we

00:48:44.349 --> 00:48:47.469
have the defense our problem was the final third

00:48:47.469 --> 00:48:54.250
and i think the addition through um just through

00:48:54.250 --> 00:48:58.070
time with the club of pedro de la vega um and

00:48:58.070 --> 00:49:03.010
then adding uh jesus and areola i think we're

00:49:03.010 --> 00:49:06.510
going to see um i think we're going to see something

00:49:06.510 --> 00:49:08.789
really good and i'm hoping that we get some good

00:49:08.789 --> 00:49:18.750
um continued growth from uh from georgie uh but

00:49:18.750 --> 00:49:20.349
but we're gonna we're gonna see how this all

00:49:20.349 --> 00:49:22.389
fits together but i'm very very optimistic i

00:49:22.389 --> 00:49:26.260
think we can easily update our total goals scored

00:49:26.260 --> 00:49:28.960
this season by at least a dozen. Oh, I'd hope

00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.820
so. Yeah, I would hope at least. But I also think

00:49:32.820 --> 00:49:36.760
if that were to happen and we aren't playing

00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:41.079
five at the back, then something has gone catastrophically

00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.219
wrong if Ariel is starting that many games. That

00:49:43.219 --> 00:49:47.420
means Pedro is a bust. Or, I mean, because even

00:49:47.420 --> 00:49:49.199
if you have 50 games, that means he's starting

00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:54.719
more often than he's not. That means... You know,

00:49:54.739 --> 00:49:57.300
one of the players that we brought in isn't doing

00:49:57.300 --> 00:50:01.139
their job. I mean, I honestly think they'll probably

00:50:01.139 --> 00:50:05.800
start Reed Baker Whiting it right back. Put him

00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.880
back where he started. I'm very curious to see

00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:11.940
how this preseason, this training camp, I'm curious

00:50:11.940 --> 00:50:18.179
to see how these things shake up. Yeah. They're

00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:21.380
going to be there in Arizona, right? Spain, I

00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:23.380
thought. Aren't they going to Spain? Spain. They

00:50:23.380 --> 00:50:27.480
leave on Friday. All right, let's keep this going.

00:50:28.260 --> 00:50:31.320
Dan the Bastard says, will I really have to wait

00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.599
another three years before an outside DP comes

00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.940
in? But since we should probably move on, there

00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:39.199
have to be some moves recently that hint at a

00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.179
three -back system. So we talked about the three

00:50:41.179 --> 00:50:43.519
-back system anyways, but let's adjust to that.

00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:51.429
Outside DP? Yeah. I mean, until the end of Jordan's

00:50:51.429 --> 00:50:53.730
contract, I don't see us bringing in another

00:50:53.730 --> 00:50:58.309
DP unless Jesus Ferreira is a bust, and then

00:50:58.309 --> 00:51:00.210
we're not going to be that good anymore. Or Pedro.

00:51:01.389 --> 00:51:04.050
I mean, we just brought in Pedro last season.

00:51:04.110 --> 00:51:12.690
Yeah. And I think that the – One of our TPs –

00:51:12.690 --> 00:51:16.190
If that happens. I mean, the big thing is this.

00:51:16.670 --> 00:51:19.570
What we paid for and what we're getting out of

00:51:19.570 --> 00:51:22.530
Jesus Ferreira is better than almost any DP we

00:51:22.530 --> 00:51:25.250
could have gotten for the value. And it's not

00:51:25.250 --> 00:51:27.889
a budget thing. It's just simple math. But like

00:51:27.889 --> 00:51:29.670
you said, he's probably going to become a DP.

00:51:30.170 --> 00:51:32.969
Assuming he plays, if he isn't a bust, he's going

00:51:32.969 --> 00:51:36.289
to become a DP. And if he does that, then there's

00:51:36.289 --> 00:51:41.150
not a DP opening unless Pedro's a bust. So assuming

00:51:41.150 --> 00:51:42.849
those players play well, yeah, we're not bringing

00:51:42.849 --> 00:51:50.099
in outside DP for... uh three years uh because

00:51:50.099 --> 00:51:54.139
i don't know but but we only reached until there's

00:51:54.139 --> 00:51:59.860
a fourth dp we only resigned um because jesus

00:51:59.860 --> 00:52:03.179
will then step up and take that position i think

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.480
I think that we probably have at least two years

00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:11.239
guaranteed of Jesus as Tam. I think it would

00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.920
be when it comes to the option years is my guess.

00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.199
But I'm pulling that out of my ass. I mean, if

00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.340
it's like Jordan, it's based on performance.

00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:24.000
Yeah, but I think Jordan, this would have been

00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.980
an option year. And that option was moving him

00:52:27.980 --> 00:52:30.320
up to the DP. Oh, so you're saying... No, he

00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.980
was an option. He's under full contract. His

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:35.940
contract goes for another... two years after

00:52:35.940 --> 00:52:38.380
this year. I'd be very curious to see how that

00:52:38.380 --> 00:52:42.500
was structured. There was no options. I wish

00:52:42.500 --> 00:52:46.500
there was a little more transparency in our roster

00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:51.480
makeup. MLS just doesn't... No, I know, but that's

00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.699
one of the things that actually it kind of...

00:52:54.110 --> 00:52:56.250
It makes it harder for fans to get into it. That's

00:52:56.250 --> 00:53:00.230
one of the things about NFL, MLB, is fans can

00:53:00.230 --> 00:53:03.869
see the numbers, can see the deal, and they trust

00:53:03.869 --> 00:53:07.869
your fans to be intelligent and to make intelligent

00:53:07.869 --> 00:53:11.530
conversations about these things. I think it's

00:53:11.530 --> 00:53:14.449
only a good thing. So I think that's a miss from

00:53:14.449 --> 00:53:18.630
MLS. Yeah, I agree. But then they'd have to explain

00:53:18.630 --> 00:53:20.730
more about these Garber bucks and what they mean.

00:53:21.650 --> 00:53:26.909
Well, I mean, you know. We are on Friday. The

00:53:26.909 --> 00:53:29.570
team leaves for Spain and they already have matches

00:53:29.570 --> 00:53:32.630
lined up against a bunch of European teams. So

00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:35.489
I'll be interested to see who they are. Brian

00:53:35.489 --> 00:53:37.230
was talking them up in his press conference,

00:53:37.289 --> 00:53:41.389
but typically they are like Bromby and teams

00:53:41.389 --> 00:53:44.949
that are not top tier teams because they're not

00:53:44.949 --> 00:53:46.530
going to want to take a break in the middle of

00:53:46.530 --> 00:53:51.369
their season. But I mean, honestly, if you also

00:53:51.369 --> 00:53:53.210
don't want to get your ass whooped in your first

00:53:53.210 --> 00:53:56.090
two training matches, I don't think they care

00:53:56.090 --> 00:53:58.449
about that as much as people playing against

00:53:58.449 --> 00:54:01.030
good quality players. Not, you know, they don't

00:54:01.030 --> 00:54:03.750
need to play against Manchester United. But yeah,

00:54:03.829 --> 00:54:07.949
yeah. You know, and sometimes they play like

00:54:07.949 --> 00:54:10.710
two 60 minute halves. It's not even like real

00:54:10.710 --> 00:54:12.949
games, right? Or that way, two 60 minute games

00:54:12.949 --> 00:54:17.769
with unlimited substitute. yeah yeah so uh last

00:54:17.769 --> 00:54:23.730
year they played in spain and let's see uh they

00:54:23.730 --> 00:54:31.250
played uh tsc baka nor coping and odense bk so

00:54:31.250 --> 00:54:34.449
those are all uh what norwegian teams i don't

00:54:34.449 --> 00:54:36.909
know which country they're from one one is from

00:54:36.909 --> 00:54:42.730
sweden one is from denmark and one is from uh

00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:48.960
i don't know uh where baka topola is from but

00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:54.380
uh i'm gonna get you know those those countries

00:54:54.380 --> 00:55:01.440
serbia wow even though they use fk so uh sometimes

00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:05.400
those games are viewable and other times they're

00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.860
not. The final friendly was in, I think it was

00:55:09.860 --> 00:55:12.780
back in the States, in Seattle against Sacramento

00:55:12.780 --> 00:55:16.460
Republic last year. So I don't think we will

00:55:16.460 --> 00:55:18.860
have that this time unless it's like a closed

00:55:18.860 --> 00:55:22.420
-door practice type thing because on the 19th,

00:55:22.420 --> 00:55:25.980
a month and five days from now, we play in Guatemala.

00:55:27.099 --> 00:55:31.079
Meaningful game. Indeed. And we start out hot.

00:55:32.179 --> 00:55:34.659
Hey, I like Paul's question because, one, you

00:55:34.659 --> 00:55:38.059
answered it last episode, Cameron and Nick. You

00:55:38.059 --> 00:55:42.440
were on assignment. So I want to hear what you

00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.619
have. And then I like his follow -up questions.

00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:48.840
So Paul says, rank the comps, MLS, League's Cup,

00:55:49.059 --> 00:55:51.659
Club World Cup, U .S. Open Cup, others, question

00:55:51.659 --> 00:55:55.159
mark? Like Cascadia Cup, actually. Shield. Which

00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:57.420
would you prioritize winning? Which would you

00:55:57.420 --> 00:56:00.380
prioritize attending? What are your hopes and

00:56:00.380 --> 00:56:02.599
predictions for each? I mean, I can answer one

00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:09.360
for Nick. We're attending them all. But use your

00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.099
experience and knowledge of the tournaments to

00:56:12.099 --> 00:56:15.239
say, hey, I can only go to like five games this

00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:19.460
year. Oh, Club World Cup. Yeah, I mean, I'm going

00:56:19.460 --> 00:56:22.300
to say Club World Cup because here's the thing

00:56:22.300 --> 00:56:26.599
about the Club World Cup. This is the first time

00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.079
they've done this tournament in this kind of

00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:33.780
style. It's not going to go away. It's only going

00:56:33.780 --> 00:56:36.860
to grow from here. So being able to do the first

00:56:36.860 --> 00:56:39.820
one ever and to be able to go to all three games

00:56:39.820 --> 00:56:43.039
at a relatively affordable price is going to

00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.119
be something you're going to very much. You're

00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:48.539
going to thank yourself down the road because

00:56:48.539 --> 00:56:51.340
one, the only time it's going to happen in the

00:56:51.340 --> 00:56:56.150
US again. is if the U .S. is going to host a

00:56:56.150 --> 00:56:58.289
World Cup in the future. So you're looking at

00:56:58.289 --> 00:57:04.849
a minimum of 24 years. Unless someone falls out,

00:57:04.949 --> 00:57:07.090
which right now they're picking rich, rich countries.

00:57:07.130 --> 00:57:11.909
So that's probably not going to happen. So one,

00:57:12.150 --> 00:57:16.949
this is a once in a generation, I don't want

00:57:16.949 --> 00:57:19.250
to say once in a lifetime, but definitely a once

00:57:19.250 --> 00:57:24.260
a generation opportunity. to see your home club,

00:57:24.380 --> 00:57:27.059
the club you support, in their home stadium in

00:57:27.059 --> 00:57:29.239
the Club World Cup, that's not fucking happening.

00:57:29.579 --> 00:57:33.500
Just appreciate that. Meaningful games against

00:57:33.500 --> 00:57:35.480
Paris Saint -Germain. Meaningful game against

00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.840
Atletico. Meaningful game against Botafogo. We

00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:40.800
could get a meaningful game against Botafogo,

00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.219
possibly, because there's been talk about American

00:57:43.219 --> 00:57:47.099
teams joining Copa Libertadores. But those other

00:57:47.099 --> 00:57:51.800
teams? that's not happening yeah yeah so so so

00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:56.480
one prioritize that um i make no bones about

00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:01.199
you know any yes okay all hats off yes i i'd

00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:05.159
win that i'd i'd go oh four on the season if

00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.849
the exchange was that we won club world cup you

00:58:08.849 --> 00:58:12.210
know what i would there we go yeah because yeah

00:58:12.210 --> 00:58:16.449
no i i mean one just because that in itself would

00:58:16.449 --> 00:58:19.329
be hilarious yeah you lost every single game

00:58:19.329 --> 00:58:22.150
in the regular season yeah and you won club world

00:58:22.150 --> 00:58:24.349
cup just just we're just drunk at all the other

00:58:24.349 --> 00:58:27.230
matches yeah yeah okay now with all that said

00:58:27.230 --> 00:58:31.789
um so yeah it's not realistic but yeah that would

00:58:31.789 --> 00:58:37.800
be that would be that would be the you would

00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:41.539
have beyond, like it's so beyond bragging rights

00:58:41.539 --> 00:58:43.780
on any other team in the league that I can't

00:58:43.780 --> 00:58:47.320
even fathom what that would be. It's very expensive

00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:50.820
though. So if you can't make it to that, I mean,

00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:52.900
we don't know where we'll be in US Open Cup,

00:58:53.019 --> 00:58:56.659
but I love the US Open Cup matches at Starfire.

00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.139
If you can make it down to a US Open Cup at Starfire,

00:58:59.300 --> 00:59:02.340
I mean, the atmosphere is different. The feel

00:59:02.340 --> 00:59:05.760
that you're on the players, it's just... It's

00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:09.460
a different kind of game that you can't experience

00:59:09.460 --> 00:59:12.539
anywhere else. Now, if we advance further, obviously

00:59:12.539 --> 00:59:14.260
it's better to go to later matches because then

00:59:14.260 --> 00:59:15.780
we have more starters out there and it's more

00:59:15.780 --> 00:59:18.320
fun. But it's also more expensive. Yeah. Like

00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:21.679
that LA game was so stupid. Because US soccer

00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:25.320
now sets the price. I know. And it's 75 bucks

00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:28.239
or some crazy number for the ticket. That was

00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.280
the first US Open Cup game at Starfire that I

00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.679
passed on since the red card wedding, which I

00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:37.400
was. watching the U S women play in the world

00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.639
cup for that game. Although that's the second

00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:44.880
one I've missed since then, but yes. Yeah. But

00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:48.579
so I do love the open cup and I, I want to win

00:59:48.579 --> 00:59:50.639
another U S open cup, but those are, those are

00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:52.659
fun trophies. But, but where would you, so, so

00:59:52.659 --> 00:59:54.239
I was doing it from the perspective of which

00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:56.659
would you prioritize attending for our, for our

00:59:56.659 --> 01:00:00.219
audience, but trophy. So trophy wise, where are

01:00:00.219 --> 01:00:06.099
you going? A trophy club world cup. MLS Cup.

01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:09.800
I love stars on my jersey. Give me all the stars.

01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:11.099
That's the hard one, right? Because I would have

01:00:11.099 --> 01:00:14.920
put Champions League above that. But I like stars.

01:00:16.539 --> 01:00:21.460
Actually, shit. I did not think about Champions

01:00:21.460 --> 01:00:26.239
League. No, yeah. We got to win a Champions League

01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:28.789
at least once every four years. Because I want

01:00:28.789 --> 01:00:30.449
to be in the next Club World Cup. I want to be

01:00:30.449 --> 01:00:33.190
in every Club World Cup. So yes, give me Champions

01:00:33.190 --> 01:00:38.289
League, then MLS Cup. And then US Open Cup. Where's

01:00:38.289 --> 01:00:39.929
the US Open Cup fall between that and Leagues

01:00:39.929 --> 01:00:43.469
Cup then? Oh, US Open Cup over Leagues Cup by

01:00:43.469 --> 01:00:45.389
far. And then where's the Shield in all of it?

01:00:46.389 --> 01:00:49.510
Leagues Cup is my least priority. I do love the

01:00:49.510 --> 01:00:54.110
Shield. Leagues Cup guarantees us into Champions

01:00:54.110 --> 01:00:57.659
Cup. Yeah, but if we win any of those other things,

01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:03.239
we get it too. So yeah, so I guess Club World

01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:09.400
Cup, then CCL. CCC. Yeah, that's right. It'll

01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:14.360
always be CCC. www .ccc .com. From a branding

01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.500
perspective, it makes no sense why you would

01:01:16.500 --> 01:01:19.300
move away from what Europe uses. because you

01:01:19.300 --> 01:01:22.019
want people to be talking about the only thing

01:01:22.019 --> 01:01:25.440
that can be you and not the uefa maybe maybe

01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.300
uefa trademark champions league or something

01:01:28.300 --> 01:01:31.519
i don't know they there might have been a hey

01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.860
don't make us do a cease and desist because it'll

01:01:33.860 --> 01:01:36.619
look ugly yeah um i don't know that'd be stupid

01:01:36.619 --> 01:01:39.400
i mean i just it's dumb to me but you know it's

01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.039
kaka so just wait a year and they're going to

01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:42.760
change the format and the name all over again

01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:46.840
so don't don't worry about it it'll change um

01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:50.139
But yeah, so the reality is we just got to win

01:01:50.139 --> 01:01:52.480
Champions League once every four years, just

01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.360
somewhere in that four -year cycle to make sure

01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:58.280
that we're in each Club World Cup. Rusnak said

01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:01.019
he just wants a trophy. He's like, it's time.

01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:04.780
We were in four semifinals last year, didn't

01:02:04.780 --> 01:02:07.519
win a trophy. Last time he said that, we won

01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:11.179
Champions League. His first season, he said,

01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:14.780
remember, it's in my video. Hey, with that said,

01:02:14.860 --> 01:02:18.880
I'm putting Cascadia Cup above League's Cup,

01:02:18.940 --> 01:02:21.960
if I'm being completely honest. Wow. I don't

01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.519
give a fuck about the League's Cup. You get more

01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:27.219
out of League's Cup is the thing. Because we

01:02:27.219 --> 01:02:29.000
don't know what will happen to those other comps.

01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:30.559
We could lose out on all those other comps. I

01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.400
know. You just got to get, what, top three in

01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:35.679
League's Cup to make it to the top four. I can't

01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.619
remember. I know Colorado got in and they were

01:02:37.619 --> 01:02:40.539
hurt. And we haven't ever won it before. So you

01:02:40.539 --> 01:02:42.519
got to have at least a copy of one. Here's the

01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:44.699
thing is as much hardware and stuff, it's not

01:02:44.699 --> 01:02:48.239
going anywhere. I know. I know. But until they

01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.500
play games in Mexico as well, which I know they're

01:02:51.500 --> 01:02:54.019
not going to do, it's a bullshit tournament to

01:02:54.019 --> 01:02:58.739
me. We're not playing in it anyways. So I just

01:02:58.739 --> 01:03:00.800
remembered. Oh, we are? Because it's at the same

01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:06.519
time as the Global World Cup. Yeah. So but in

01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:08.940
the end, we don't even in the end. I mean, in

01:03:08.940 --> 01:03:11.639
the end, just look at how spoiled we are. We

01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:17.039
are going to get a lot of soccer. I love this

01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.260
club. I really love this club. Rusnak said he

01:03:20.260 --> 01:03:22.500
said, I love that we have so many games because

01:03:22.500 --> 01:03:24.099
that means we don't have that much practice and

01:03:24.099 --> 01:03:27.019
I hate practice. I don't want to train. I just

01:03:27.019 --> 01:03:31.039
want to play. Okay. Okay. That's a great quote.

01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:35.360
That's a good. Okay. What about two of you? I'm

01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.280
copy -paste. Yeah, I mean, we're pretty much

01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.800
the same minus. I would put Lee's Cup higher

01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.739
than Cascadia Cup. Cascadia Cup's the best. I

01:03:42.739 --> 01:03:45.360
would as well, just because, like I said, I want

01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.300
one of each. And I'm putting Heritage Cup above

01:03:47.300 --> 01:03:50.539
Cascadia Cup as well, simply because I'm the

01:03:50.539 --> 01:03:53.519
holder of the Heritage Cup. I was going to say,

01:03:53.579 --> 01:03:55.780
that's got to just be holding, man. Yeah, I'm

01:03:55.780 --> 01:03:58.260
the holder. But I'd also be the holder of the

01:03:58.260 --> 01:04:01.110
shield, so I'll put the shield above that. My

01:04:01.110 --> 01:04:02.670
question for you, I got a question for the three

01:04:02.670 --> 01:04:07.530
of us. I know, I know. How many beers have you

01:04:07.530 --> 01:04:10.989
had? Well, that's a good question. As a matter

01:04:10.989 --> 01:04:14.570
of fact, let's just try and... There we go. Okay,

01:04:14.610 --> 01:04:23.809
so what player who was not a regular starter

01:04:23.809 --> 01:04:30.000
last season... Are you excited and most hopeful

01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.880
for to see have a breakout season? Who is not

01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:39.079
a regular starter. Yeah, so that means Rothrock

01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:41.559
is not going to be an eligible answer. What about

01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:47.159
Pedro? No, he was a regular starter. So I'm going

01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:50.960
to say no on Pedro. So we're looking at potentially

01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.650
like a Georgie or a Reed Baker Whiting. uh you

01:04:55.650 --> 01:05:00.429
know even a danny leva or even uh um uh jonathan

01:05:00.429 --> 01:05:05.869
bell uh you know uh cody baker who oh so that's

01:05:05.869 --> 01:05:09.929
a shame he was injured i really liked i loved

01:05:09.929 --> 01:05:12.250
his energy because i didn't have one and then

01:05:12.250 --> 01:05:16.130
i just realized i do danny masovsky okay there

01:05:16.130 --> 01:05:19.650
you go danny it's just i mean he is technically

01:05:19.650 --> 01:05:21.670
a forward even though he often came in on the

01:05:21.670 --> 01:05:25.250
wing until georgie became a revelation And so

01:05:25.250 --> 01:05:27.329
if he can go out there and perform like he has

01:05:27.329 --> 01:05:30.510
every other year besides last year, he will and

01:05:30.510 --> 01:05:34.389
he'll have service now. He he could throw in

01:05:34.389 --> 01:05:37.510
a few goals and be a solid backup. You know,

01:05:37.530 --> 01:05:39.110
he's not he's not going to push for starting.

01:05:39.710 --> 01:05:42.269
He's also changed numbers. I think he's number

01:05:42.269 --> 01:05:48.369
19 now as Areola is 17. So, yeah, I'm going to

01:05:48.369 --> 01:05:49.949
go with Mazovsky because I'm not excited about

01:05:49.949 --> 01:05:53.829
I mean, obviously, I love Cody Baker. I thought

01:05:53.829 --> 01:05:57.070
he, his ceiling's much higher. I thought he was

01:05:57.070 --> 01:05:59.429
a nobody and he proved me wrong and I will always

01:05:59.429 --> 01:06:03.130
respect him and love him after that. But it's

01:06:03.130 --> 01:06:04.730
Danny because I think he can have the biggest

01:06:04.730 --> 01:06:06.949
impact out of any of those players except for

01:06:06.949 --> 01:06:10.469
maybe Reed Baker Whiting, maybe Georgie. I was

01:06:10.469 --> 01:06:12.409
going to say. I don't see Georgie getting on

01:06:12.409 --> 01:06:15.570
the field if Pedro's playing well and, and, and

01:06:15.570 --> 01:06:18.230
Ariel is playing well. I mean, he could be a

01:06:18.230 --> 01:06:20.989
cheat code for some of these extra competitions,

01:06:21.090 --> 01:06:24.900
you know, but true. I think, well, I was going

01:06:24.900 --> 01:06:28.179
to say Georgie might be, are you put, although

01:06:28.179 --> 01:06:30.059
you almost can be, I think you might've convinced

01:06:30.059 --> 01:06:32.780
me of Danny. Almost. Danny's also one of the

01:06:32.780 --> 01:06:35.960
nicest guys on the team. Yeah. But he's actually

01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:39.119
done it before. Right. And we're also Georgie

01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:41.980
right now looks like a one trick pony. Like it,

01:06:42.179 --> 01:06:45.340
he does, which has been hard on that. I'm sorry.

01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.139
I keep pushing back on that. He's got that movie

01:06:48.139 --> 01:06:51.320
does going along to the corner and the touchline.

01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:57.039
But he's also making those passes earlier. He's

01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:01.480
leading the team in key passes per 90. I'm not

01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.260
saying he's doing a bad job at it, but I have

01:07:04.260 --> 01:07:06.219
not. Of course, every soccer player is going

01:07:06.219 --> 01:07:07.800
to kick the ball in just about every direction

01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:12.920
at least once. I get it. But most of his stuff

01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:16.400
is right down to the end, a step over, and he

01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.300
doesn't curl anything in with his left foot,

01:07:19.340 --> 01:07:22.710
at least to that I've seen. He did start cutting

01:07:22.710 --> 01:07:24.949
it in and hit a few with his left foot in the

01:07:24.949 --> 01:07:27.969
semifinal there. The Western Carp was final.

01:07:28.429 --> 01:07:30.170
But that's because they were forcing him to.

01:07:30.289 --> 01:07:34.429
But speaking of Danny Mazovsky, I mean, he scored

01:07:34.429 --> 01:07:38.710
11 goals in 53 matches for LAFC. He scored and

01:07:38.710 --> 01:07:41.329
then he got loaned down for a few games, five

01:07:41.329 --> 01:07:44.190
goals in 15 matches for Las Vegas Lights. And

01:07:44.190 --> 01:07:46.889
then he had five goals in 23 matches. So if we

01:07:46.889 --> 01:07:50.389
can get five goals out of him. And in the season,

01:07:50.510 --> 01:07:54.650
I think we are doing great. Yeah. Danny's a clear

01:07:54.650 --> 01:07:57.630
like he's done it before. That's it. It won't

01:07:57.630 --> 01:08:00.789
be a surprise. Georgie looks like he has a very

01:08:00.789 --> 01:08:02.969
high ceiling and he's very flashy. Right. So

01:08:02.969 --> 01:08:05.650
can I continue to develop the way he has been?

01:08:05.889 --> 01:08:11.690
Yeah. In honor of retiring the Bruce Lee Ketz

01:08:11.690 --> 01:08:15.750
and talking about Georgie, I am going somewhere

01:08:15.750 --> 01:08:18.989
with this. I would like to stay a Bruce Lee quote

01:08:18.989 --> 01:08:21.390
that I think is very appropriate to what you

01:08:21.390 --> 01:08:23.869
were just saying about Georgie. I fear not the

01:08:23.869 --> 01:08:26.869
man who has practiced 10 ,000 kicks once, but

01:08:26.869 --> 01:08:29.170
I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10

01:08:29.170 --> 01:08:33.189
,000 times. So if, if you know what Georgie's

01:08:33.189 --> 01:08:36.329
about to do, and yet he still does it time after

01:08:36.329 --> 01:08:40.090
time, he's damn good at that move. So that's

01:08:40.090 --> 01:08:42.130
kind of like, I just, I just, I just laughed.

01:08:42.569 --> 01:08:48.159
I just, I just do think that. he's even if you

01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:50.979
know it's coming the fact that he's one taking

01:08:50.979 --> 01:08:55.600
people on yay um but but two i just i just hate

01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:00.319
to see people discredit his results when it's

01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.279
just oh oh but but but we know it's coming or

01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.000
it's just i never said anything bad about it

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.180
no i know i know but i'm i am i am i just said

01:09:08.180 --> 01:09:10.640
he's consistently does the same thing yeah i

01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:12.979
think we need he's good i mean here's the thing

01:09:12.979 --> 01:09:17.779
is he needed to develop into creating goal -dangerous

01:09:17.779 --> 01:09:21.619
chances last year to get signed to the first

01:09:21.619 --> 01:09:24.960
team, and he did that. And then he, at the first

01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:26.699
team, started doing that. So we need to see his

01:09:26.699 --> 01:09:30.100
development continue. I mean, I think the only

01:09:30.100 --> 01:09:32.319
reason I think that he may not have the opportunity

01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.420
to shine to the level that Mazovsky could is

01:09:35.420 --> 01:09:38.319
because, yeah, it's opportunity. There's too

01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.079
many people potentially in front of him now.

01:09:41.380 --> 01:09:45.739
But he could also say, fuck you. run roughshod

01:09:45.739 --> 01:09:47.739
over all of them and and make himself a starter

01:09:47.739 --> 01:09:50.579
like rothrock did last year yeah yeah i think

01:09:50.579 --> 01:09:52.760
this would be another place to put paul rothrock

01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:56.220
if he were eligible because he now has people

01:09:56.220 --> 01:09:59.060
potentially above him yeah he's not an automatic

01:09:59.060 --> 01:10:01.899
starter i mean yeah i don't i i mean depending

01:10:01.899 --> 01:10:04.539
on how many forwards you play suddenly you he

01:10:04.539 --> 01:10:07.520
could be fourth in line and if reed which is

01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:11.859
crazy in line uh in the left yeah it's so crazy

01:10:11.859 --> 01:10:15.220
that you're you're starting your your locked

01:10:15.220 --> 01:10:22.539
in starter is now maybe at best your third yeah

01:10:22.539 --> 01:10:25.579
choice that's how good that's how much we added

01:10:25.579 --> 01:10:28.260
uh yeah that just means it's a good offseason

01:10:28.260 --> 01:10:31.439
that's that's what i'm getting at i so this is

01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:34.079
where i'm like you know what i think weibel i'm

01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.039
happy but now we got to see them do it on the

01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:39.319
field uh if i have one request for this for this

01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:45.140
this next season i would love to see us collectively

01:10:45.140 --> 01:10:48.619
as, as a, as a fan base, be a little bit more

01:10:48.619 --> 01:10:52.399
optimistic. That's, that's just killing me is

01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:54.600
the lack of optimism when we haven't even kicked

01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:56.920
a ball. I mean, y 'all are Seattle sports fans.

01:10:57.020 --> 01:10:58.760
You should know that we go into every season

01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:00.479
optimistic and then we get our hearts broken.

01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:02.600
But you've got to start out with the optimism.

01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:04.619
It's just a question of when do our hearts get

01:11:04.619 --> 01:11:06.819
broken. Right now, I mean, obviously, the Hawks

01:11:06.819 --> 01:11:08.760
didn't make it, and then the Mariners have just

01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:11.420
been doing absolutely nothing all offseason.

01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:13.520
What do you mean? They just signed two mediocre

01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:15.479
infielders. I don't know what you're talking

01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:20.119
about. Again. One of the worst. Older, too. But

01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:24.020
here's the thing. I mean, the Seahawks, I'm glad

01:11:24.020 --> 01:11:25.119
the Seahawks didn't make it to the playoffs.

01:11:25.260 --> 01:11:27.520
It gives them a better draft pick. They proved

01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:31.619
that they... are a better team than they used

01:11:31.619 --> 01:11:33.539
to be. They got to figure out what's going on

01:11:33.539 --> 01:11:35.520
because you're about to pay $44 million for Geno

01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:38.119
when there's multiple quarterbacks out there

01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:40.640
that are better and cheaper. But this is not

01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:43.640
Seahawks scuttlebutt. So what we should talk

01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.800
about is the fact that I have a Bruce Lee quote

01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:49.479
for Danny Masovsky and how he has to get his

01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:57.439
five goals. If it kills you, it kills you. If

01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:01.859
he dies, he dies? Someone put up a picture of

01:12:01.859 --> 01:12:03.300
Detlef Schrempf the other day and said, who's

01:12:03.300 --> 01:12:05.520
this? And I put up that, if he dies, he dies.

01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:13.039
I love it. God, I love Detlef. He's like best

01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:16.319
friends with the GM of the Superhawks. So we

01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:17.779
were talking and he's like, oh, I got to get

01:12:17.779 --> 01:12:19.460
you to hang out with Detlef more so that you

01:12:19.460 --> 01:12:22.979
can start getting in with the Sonics front office

01:12:22.979 --> 01:12:25.460
people. I'm like, yes, please. Yes, please. Can

01:12:25.460 --> 01:12:28.079
I be your lackey as usual when you're hanging

01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:30.140
around people like that? Yes, yes. I mean, I

01:12:30.140 --> 01:12:31.579
got to hang out. Cameron, what are you doing

01:12:31.579 --> 01:12:34.000
here? I got to hang out last year with Gary Payton

01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.899
and Xavier McDaniel. So good times. And would

01:12:38.899 --> 01:12:40.359
have been Sean Kemp if he didn't get arrested.

01:12:43.420 --> 01:12:47.520
If someone steals your stuff, don't go to try

01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:49.359
to get it on your own with a gun. It doesn't

01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:52.239
work. Oh, it was that story? Yeah. Oh, he went

01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:55.680
the OJ route? Yeah. which that's why oj actually

01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.659
did go to prison was for trying to get back stuff

01:12:58.659 --> 01:13:00.460
that was stolen from him on his own with a gun

01:13:00.460 --> 01:13:03.880
so uh yeah don't do that don't do that let let

01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:07.239
other people do it for you for presumably law

01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:11.760
enforcement folks but uh you know i always seek

01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.539
help from other people all right so you both

01:13:14.539 --> 01:13:16.020
think that we're getting second i think we're

01:13:16.020 --> 01:13:18.800
getting third uh this since this is the pre -season

01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:20.479
preview although we'll probably do another just

01:13:20.479 --> 01:13:24.079
tell me Where are we going to finish in the MLS

01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:26.039
once the season's done and the playoffs are over?

01:13:27.579 --> 01:13:30.300
This will be what we let James take it away with.

01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:39.760
Repeat the question? Once the playoffs are over,

01:13:39.859 --> 01:13:42.600
where are we finishing? Oh, I thought we just

01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:46.409
did that. No, you did regular season. Oh, I see.

01:13:46.470 --> 01:13:48.470
I see where you're going. Okay, well, I honestly

01:13:48.470 --> 01:13:50.909
think that this is an MLS Cup winning contender,

01:13:50.970 --> 01:13:55.050
I think. I didn't feel like we were last season,

01:13:55.109 --> 01:13:56.789
although I felt like we finished where we should

01:13:56.789 --> 01:13:59.750
have finished in the playoffs. I did feel like,

01:13:59.810 --> 01:14:02.909
yeah, it would have been an uphill battle to

01:14:02.909 --> 01:14:04.970
win the MLS Cup. I think actually it would have

01:14:04.970 --> 01:14:08.189
been harder to beat LAFC than it would to win

01:14:08.189 --> 01:14:10.810
the MLS Cup last year. But I do think we'll win

01:14:10.810 --> 01:14:14.800
it this year. Or I put... Yes, I do. I'm going

01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:16.840
to put money on it. All right, Nick. Well, not

01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:25.659
really. I have no money. Wow. Nick? It's been

01:14:25.659 --> 01:14:29.539
six years. If you think about it that way, when

01:14:29.539 --> 01:14:32.920
was the last time we won an MLS Cup? 2019. 2019.

01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:36.720
It's been a long time. It's been a long time.

01:14:36.859 --> 01:14:40.619
This is no longer a team that in the MLS is a

01:14:40.619 --> 01:14:44.920
dynasty. We've become the Buffalo Bills, which

01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:49.279
Nick knows a lot about. You shut your face. So

01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:53.680
where are we finishing, Nick? On my... Oh, wait.

01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:03.300
Explat that. And muted. Honestly, I feel good

01:15:03.300 --> 01:15:08.539
about this season. I really do. I do think that

01:15:08.539 --> 01:15:13.340
we are going to be an MLS Cup. Nice. I do. I

01:15:13.340 --> 01:15:15.399
do. I think we're going to be an MLS Cup. I think

01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.199
if we finish second, I would agree because that

01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:21.039
means if someone could knock off whichever LA

01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:23.220
finishes first, then we could host that game.

01:15:23.300 --> 01:15:25.420
And I think we go through. If we finish third,

01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:26.939
I think we're going to need some help. So I'm

01:15:26.939 --> 01:15:28.300
going to say we're going to lose in the Western

01:15:28.300 --> 01:15:32.939
Conference Finals again. But yeah, I mean, but

01:15:32.939 --> 01:15:35.060
I feel that even though I want trophies, I feel

01:15:35.060 --> 01:15:37.560
that is a successful year because only one Western

01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:41.199
Conference team makes it that far. I will say,

01:15:41.220 --> 01:15:45.640
though, I do think that Miami's going to have

01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:51.180
a struggle this year. I think it's going to be

01:15:51.180 --> 01:15:57.100
interesting to watch that happen. And let go

01:15:57.100 --> 01:16:01.239
of some good players. Yeah, and everyone's gotten

01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:06.619
a little older. So, you know what Nick always

01:16:06.619 --> 01:16:09.359
says about Leo Messi, if it kills you, it kills

01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:15.539
you. If he dies, he dies. Wow. What's funny is

01:16:15.539 --> 01:16:18.279
I love Leo Messi. Oh, I don't think we ever talked

01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:20.560
about this. I just want to say real quick, he

01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:23.020
won the U .S. Presidential Medal of Freedom.

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For people that think he don't deserve it, you

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clearly haven't looked at past winners. They

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give it to people in all sorts of arts and sports.

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I mean, Margaret Thatcher got it, for God's sake.

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Someone who helped aid the... thousands and thousands

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of deaths in Northern Ireland who started infinite

01:16:41.180 --> 01:16:44.619
wars who uh we won't get too political but you

01:16:44.619 --> 01:16:46.899
know just if she's getting that kind of stuff

01:16:46.899 --> 01:16:50.220
you know uh other people like uh one of the experts

01:16:50.220 --> 01:16:52.659
on Beethoven got it at one point it's like here's

01:16:52.659 --> 01:16:54.420
the guy I just think he's a soccer player of

01:16:54.420 --> 01:16:56.659
all time I think he's just literally getting

01:16:56.659 --> 01:16:59.640
every award you can possibly get but but that's

01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:02.420
kind of I think he's done more to raise the profile

01:17:02.420 --> 01:17:05.020
of soccer in the United States outside of soccer

01:17:05.020 --> 01:17:07.850
fans than anyone else has done in the last 20

01:17:07.850 --> 01:17:11.590
years, since the last World Cup. I'd agree with

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that. So I'm for it because it means the sport's

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getting bigger. And I think if it were two years

01:17:19.090 --> 01:17:21.210
from now, or a year from now, a year and a half

01:17:21.210 --> 01:17:23.130
from now, damn, and it was a World Cup, then

01:17:23.130 --> 01:17:27.770
that's going to be the big news. And I'm just

01:17:27.770 --> 01:17:29.569
prepping myself to not be able to go to those

01:17:29.569 --> 01:17:31.609
games, even though I wanted nothing more than

01:17:31.609 --> 01:17:35.489
to go to a game with my dad for the last 20 years.

01:17:35.899 --> 01:17:38.979
Because you thought Club World Cup was expensive.

01:17:39.260 --> 01:17:41.680
Hoo boy. Okay, so a couple things about that.

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So here's what I really do expect to see happen

01:17:44.619 --> 01:17:48.680
with the World Cup. One, just keep in mind that

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FIFA does tickets in demands. They do the demand

01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:01.350
in waves. And so there's an initial ticket wait

01:18:01.350 --> 01:18:04.609
period. Then usually there will be a local sale.

01:18:05.590 --> 01:18:08.590
And then usually as you get closer to the World

01:18:08.590 --> 01:18:12.510
Cup, there will be another wave, like a second

01:18:12.510 --> 01:18:15.569
chance tickets for things that, you know, maybe

01:18:15.569 --> 01:18:18.250
sponsors and people who are offered the rights

01:18:18.250 --> 01:18:21.220
to buy tickets don't. don't buy up. So there

01:18:21.220 --> 01:18:23.779
will be opportunities to get tickets at face

01:18:23.779 --> 01:18:26.739
value. You just have to be diligent on that.

01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:29.239
But I do think that face value is going to preclude

01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:32.899
me from going to all the games in Seattle. Unless

01:18:32.899 --> 01:18:39.109
I get a new job. My goal is one game in Canada,

01:18:39.270 --> 01:18:41.829
one game in Mexico, one game in the U .S. I want

01:18:41.829 --> 01:18:44.050
to go Vancouver, Seattle, and Mexico City. If

01:18:44.050 --> 01:18:45.970
I can do that, I'll be really happy. Damn, you

01:18:45.970 --> 01:18:47.729
greedy. I just want to go to a single game in

01:18:47.729 --> 01:18:51.329
Seattle with my dad, preferably USA on June 19th,

01:18:51.329 --> 01:18:53.890
just before my birthday. Think about that, people.

01:18:54.109 --> 01:18:57.310
Join our Patreon so that we can buy us tickets

01:18:57.310 --> 01:18:59.329
because it would be a perfect birthday present.

01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:03.720
You can give more than the $1 .74. You can give,

01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:07.000
you know, $1 ,000 .74. And if you do that for

01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:09.640
a few months, you do it for four months, we'll

01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:11.439
be able to get all three of us plus my dad a

01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:14.659
ticket to that match maybe. And you'll get a

01:19:14.659 --> 01:19:20.859
photograph from us. We'll live stream for you

01:19:20.859 --> 01:19:31.789
on our phones. And if you subscribe at the highest

01:19:31.789 --> 01:19:36.170
tier, one of us will streak on the field, get

01:19:36.170 --> 01:19:41.130
arrested, and make national news. Wow. And then

01:19:41.130 --> 01:19:43.109
it'd have to be Aaron because you and I would

01:19:43.109 --> 01:19:44.630
get kicked off the Alliance Council for that.

01:19:46.729 --> 01:19:51.470
Shit. I did not sign up for this. And we would

01:19:51.470 --> 01:19:53.029
probably lose our season tickets as well. We

01:19:53.029 --> 01:19:54.630
need to bring this into port. James needs to

01:19:54.630 --> 01:19:56.550
save this. Where can they find you? We're thinking.

01:19:56.909 --> 01:19:58.609
Where can they find you, Nicholas, on the internets?

01:19:59.510 --> 01:20:01.710
On the internets. You can find me on Twitter

01:20:01.710 --> 01:20:05.149
at NikitaBanana. You can find me on Instagram

01:20:05.149 --> 01:20:10.649
at Cascades2C. What about you, Aaron? Twitter

01:20:10.649 --> 01:20:14.189
at Aaron Lingley. A -R -O -N -L -I -N -G -L -E

01:20:14.189 --> 01:20:18.069
-Y. And, of course, you can find me at LegalMindedPunk

01:20:18.069 --> 01:20:20.750
on all the stuff, including Blue Sky, although

01:20:20.750 --> 01:20:24.670
I'm never on there. And just remember, in the

01:20:24.670 --> 01:20:27.409
words of Bruce Lee, if it kills you, it kills

01:20:27.409 --> 01:20:52.920
you. Take it away, James. You can follow the

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Sounders are both unequivocally and irreparably

01:21:38.739 --> 01:21:40.680
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