1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,100 Have you ever done something that you didn't want to do and it actually ended up paying 2 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:09,600 dividends? 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Maybe it's as simple as when you were a kid and you didn't want to eat your vegetables. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:20,240 Your mom threw some broccoli, some carrots, threw some rutabaga, maybe some bok choy. 5 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:25,380 Maybe she was getting real exotic with the different vegetables thrown on your plate. 6 00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:30,560 Then you grew up big and strong and you're able to do so much more than you could do 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,640 if you hadn't eaten those vegetables and you were only eating pop tarts mixed with Captain 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,080 Crunch mixed with seven different types of cookies. 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,600 That does sound pretty delicious so I'm sorry if I just made your mouth water, but you can 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,160 combine it with the vegetables, throw a little kale on top, all kinds of goodness. 11 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:55,760 Or maybe you ended up in a career that you never thought you'd be in because you said 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,720 yes to something that previously you had said, I'm good, no thanks. 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Holly Kirby is a leadership coach, a speaker, a podcast host, an entrepreneur, and an author. 14 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,800 And those last two, she had no intentions of being, she never wanted to start her own 15 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,000 business, she never wanted to write a book. 16 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:22,240 But guess what, she's doing both of those things and her book comes out on April 28th, 17 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Facelift Embracing Hope Through Your Heartaches. 18 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,460 So we're talking all about how she's stumbled into this entrepreneurial journey of hers, 19 00:01:30,460 --> 00:01:35,800 how it's been going, what she's seen that surprised her along the way, as well as some 20 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,420 of her most helpful tools, why she believes in having a mission statement, and her most 21 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:47,360 challenging speaking gig, which turned into perhaps her most memorable one. 22 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,760 There's lots of good shenanigans going on, so you'll love to see it. 23 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,640 One quick housekeeping item before we get rolling, if you enjoyed this podcast episode 24 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,600 today, by the end of it, please tell someone else about the show. 25 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Be like, hey, Good People, Cool Things, that's a pretty cool show. 26 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:11,000 They can listen to any episode at goodpeoplecoolthings.com or anywhere they're listening to a podcast. 27 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,440 You are listening to this podcast right now, you can even send a link. 28 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,280 I'm also a big fan of Podlink, which is a great way to share a show, even if it's not 29 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,280 this show. 30 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,600 I would be very distressed if you shared another show with someone and didn't share this show 31 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,600 as well. 32 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:33,760 But either way, you go to Podlink, you search your favorite show, then it sends a link for 33 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,860 every platform that that show is on. 34 00:02:35,860 --> 00:02:37,760 It's so simple, it's so lovely. 35 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,920 I wish more people knew about Podlink, so go tell someone about Podlink too, while you're 36 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:43,680 telling them about this show. 37 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:54,080 I'm Joey Held, this is Good People, Cool Things, and here's my conversation with Holly Kirby. 38 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,960 To kick it off, can you give us your name and your elevator pitch, but also the type 39 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,520 of elevator that we're riding on? 40 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Absolutely. 41 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,200 So I'm Holly Kirby, and I am, I think my hands are kind of in a lot of different things, 42 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,840 which I'm absolutely loving. 43 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:12,400 One is I have the privilege of representing the brand of a well-known national restaurant 44 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,360 that is a family and faith-based as well. 45 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,360 So I love doing that, and they're so good to me, and I love being able to be a part 46 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,080 of the community and show care and all of that. 47 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,400 But then on the side, and that's what I think we're more going to be talking about, is things 48 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:31,420 that have developed with my leadership coaching and motivational speaking and being the host 49 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:35,000 and producer of Holly's Highlights podcast, and then also my new book. 50 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,120 So that is a new venture that is a new one coming on as it releases April 28th. 51 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,040 Of course, I have two kids, and those are my pride and joy. 52 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,960 So I love being a mom, and that would be, as I would say, my top priority. 53 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,640 So the type of elevator we're riding on is, I would just say one where we can talk, right? 54 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Just want to be able to get to know each other and encourage one another and inspire hopefully 55 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,520 those who are listening, as well as be inspired ourselves. 56 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,200 I love it. 57 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,200 I love it. 58 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,480 And without giving too much away about this restaurant, what's the best thing on the 59 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,480 menu? 60 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,120 Well, I like the waffle fries. 61 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,120 Lovely. 62 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Yes, yes. 63 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,080 But a lot of people like their chicken. 64 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Okay. 65 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Okay. 66 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,080 I like it. 67 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,080 I like it. 68 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Yes. 69 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,480 I was like, I don't know how much to give away, but I like the, we'll let people do 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,480 their own math. 71 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,480 That's fine. 72 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,480 Absolutely. 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,160 Now a question I always like to ask is a question you wish you asked more frequently. 74 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,080 And I usually kind of save this for later in the episode, but I think it's a nice kind 75 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,920 of kickoff type of thing because you mentioned a book, you mentioned how you're an entrepreneur. 76 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,240 Did you ever want to write a book or become an entrepreneur? 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,400 No, no, no, no, I didn't. 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,240 And in fact, the whole entrepreneur thing just kind of fell in my lap. 79 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:56,280 And how it really did was as I was being asked to go and speak at these motivational opportunities 80 00:04:56,280 --> 00:05:01,960 of whether it be to speak for cities, speaking for schools and colleges, speaking for nonprofit 81 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,440 organizations, opportunities would come where people would want to talk with me and they 82 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:12,320 just found both the approachability as well as some wisdom within it, which I was grateful 83 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,320 for, but that added a course to my time. 84 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Right? 85 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,840 And although I'm so, so happy and feel truly honored to be able to help others out, I found 86 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:26,020 that I had to set a boundary and that boundary became coaching. 87 00:05:26,020 --> 00:05:31,480 And so from there with the speaking going on and the coaching and then my mom's, I would 88 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,560 say nagging of writing this book, I went to my tax advisor and just said, Hey, what do 89 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,560 I do with all this? 90 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,040 You know, I want to make sure that everything is on the up and up and I'm doing things as 91 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,040 I should. 92 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,000 And he said, it's time to start a business. 93 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,440 And there started my entrepreneurship adventure. 94 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,480 So no, never even thought I would do it. 95 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,640 But of course it just one path led to another and voila, here we are. 96 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,760 So as far as wanting to write a book, no, no, I didn't want to do that either. 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,120 And as I've shared before, my mom was the catalyst for that. 98 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,880 And so the day that she died, she actually was diagnosed with glioblastoma brain cancer 99 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,320 almost four years ago. 100 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,300 And it took her pretty quickly after seven and a half months. 101 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:10,880 And so the day she died, I promised her I would write that book. 102 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,080 And of course, as we all know, then the pandemic hit and suddenly I found myself with time 103 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,960 to write the book. 104 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,980 And then last year it was picked up by a publisher and now it's getting ready to release April 105 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:21,980 28th. 106 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:23,980 So here we are. 107 00:06:23,980 --> 00:06:24,980 Fantastic. 108 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:32,120 So clearly there's like a motivation behind it since that's a promise you made to your 109 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,120 mom. 110 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,960 But in talking with other authors either on this podcast or elsewhere, sometimes it can 111 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,720 still be a challenge. 112 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,320 It's definitely a slog to write a book. 113 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:48,080 And I think that really doesn't go away even if you've written 8, 10 or more books like 114 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,080 that. 115 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,480 I know having written one book, I was like, this took a very long time. 116 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,640 And there'd be days where I'm like, I'm going to get so much done and then something happens 117 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,040 and all of that. 118 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,440 So what you said, there's more time during the pandemic, but I'm sure it wasn't all just 119 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:06,440 one lovely linear, I'm trying to remember what the official name of it is. 120 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,680 It's the straight line graph that we all remember from math class. 121 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,760 It's probably some bumps and twists along the way. 122 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,800 So how did you find the entire process of writing a book that you kind of didn't want 123 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:18,800 to write? 124 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Yeah, that's a great question. 125 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,880 I think the process for me was fairly easy. 126 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Once I sat down and thought, okay, now I have the time to write the book, I'm going to push 127 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,960 this thing out. 128 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,720 And I had it out pretty quickly. 129 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,920 I want to say I had it out, I think it started around March and it was done by July. 130 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,440 So the writing process itself was to me came very easy. 131 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,680 It was the steps that followed that were my bumps. 132 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,840 And I think I was my biggest bump of all and not just one time, but repetitively, right? 133 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,600 Because I would get so discouraged and in my own head of, well, maybe I was to promise 134 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,400 her that I would write the book, but I never said anything about publishing it, right? 135 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,920 So I would try to do like almost these head games with myself of, you know, it's the imposter 136 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,920 syndrome. 137 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,920 You know, you're not good enough. 138 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,240 Who are you to write this book? 139 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,320 And then the discouragements of just challenges that would come along of fears, right? 140 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,280 The fears that can set in as well of what are people going to think or how is this going 141 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,560 to be accepted or will it be rejected or all of this stuff that comes along in the 142 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,560 past. 143 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:24,080 So for me, it was more of the bumps, the repeated bumps of wanting to put on those breaks and 144 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,080 just be like, you know what? 145 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,840 I fulfilled my promise of writing it. 146 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,880 I never said I was going to do anything else, but it was then that something would come 147 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,760 along to to encourage me along the way, whether it would be an author I would reach out to. 148 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,400 And he offered to pay my way to go to Georgetown University to attend a writing class. 149 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,680 And it was like, wait, who does that? 150 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:43,680 You know, right. 151 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:48,880 So I was so grateful for not just the offer, it was the encouragement that that provided 152 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,240 to me of someone believing in me and going, you can do this. 153 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,480 This is the next step. 154 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,000 Or another author I had reached out to. 155 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,040 And she graciously got back to me and just provided some insights and even a connection 156 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,160 of basically like a golden ticket per se in reaching out to a publisher. 157 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,600 And once again, it was like, this doesn't happen. 158 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,840 You usually have to go through a literary agent to be able to get to that acquisition 159 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,960 editor in the publishing business. 160 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,400 So again, just time after time, there was encouragement of open doors just pushing me 161 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,720 through and going, yeah, this is the next step. 162 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,840 This is the next step. 163 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:29,960 I think that's something that I found during writing my book, too, of just like how many 164 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,860 people are willing to help in some way, which you really don't realize until I mean, I'm 165 00:09:34,860 --> 00:09:37,560 not saying everyone listening has to go write a book to learn this. 166 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:43,600 It's like when you're doing kind of a massive undertaking of some kind, it is cool to see 167 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,720 people in some cases kind of coming out of the woodwork. 168 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,280 There were some people I hadn't talked to in probably months that heard about it or 169 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,860 I reached out to them because I was like, hey, you seem like you might be interested 170 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:55,860 in this. 171 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:56,860 Here's the information. 172 00:09:56,860 --> 00:10:01,360 And then they're like, oh, yeah, I'm happy to help and whatever I can, which I thought 173 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,880 was a very cool twist on things. 174 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,440 And I know we've talked about the book. 175 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,240 I don't know if we've actually said the title, but it's called Facelift Embracing Hope Through 176 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,480 Heart Eggs, a two part question for you. 177 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,720 Obviously, what can readers expect? 178 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,200 But I always like, I think this is a very probably a dumb question for an audio only 179 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,580 podcast, but I always like to talk about the cover of books because that is despite the 180 00:10:25,580 --> 00:10:28,780 saying of not judging a book by its cover, that is what a lot of people do. 181 00:10:28,780 --> 00:10:32,780 And they'll see the cover and that's like the first thing that catches their eye. 182 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:36,880 Maybe they get to read a blur, but it might just be like cover alone draws them in. 183 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:43,420 And you have yourself on the cover because it is a very personal journey and story. 184 00:10:43,420 --> 00:10:45,920 I would never want my face to be on a cover of the book. 185 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,960 So was that something that you always had in mind? 186 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,600 And how terrifying was it to have yourself on the cover of your book? 187 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,080 Let's go back to I never wanted to write this book. 188 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:02,560 No, it was extremely, extremely vulnerable for me. 189 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:06,640 And yes, I am a person who lives with intentionality. 190 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:13,900 And so the entire book is filled with which is that it is so intentional on every level. 191 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:18,700 And so when it came to the cover and different things that we were looking at, it took me 192 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:27,360 back to goodness about a year after my not even my divorce, a year into my separation. 193 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,280 And I was actually on a trip with my mother and my two kids. 194 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:37,360 And I saw this painting where this lady was in this just very haggard room, paint kind 195 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,480 of falling off of the walls. 196 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,060 And there was shattered glass everywhere on the ground. 197 00:11:43,060 --> 00:11:49,680 And she was just stretched out in this bright red dress and dancing so carefree. 198 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:55,200 And I remember seeing that picture and just feeling a connection with it. 199 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,200 That's how I'm feeling. 200 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Like I feel that my life has shattered as I knew it. 201 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,480 And yet I just wanted to remind myself and I felt like God was reminding me, you're going 202 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,080 to make it and you're going to get to a point where you can be carefree. 203 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,920 You can dance again and you can live again. 204 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:20,760 And so the cover going back to that is that I wanted to encompass all of that, of bringing 205 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:26,160 that hope to the readers that whatever is going on in life, no matter how shattered 206 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:32,800 and destroyed things can seem or feel, there is such hope and you will overcome this. 207 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,840 You will thrive from this and it can be used also. 208 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,680 So that's where the book cover came about. 209 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:43,960 So on the bottom, you'll see the shattered glass and that is specifically from that painting 210 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,960 that I saw. 211 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,200 And of course, that kind of haggard background reflects that as well. 212 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,360 And then the computer on my lab definitely correlates with the social media impact. 213 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,520 And you'll find that spread throughout the entire book and just this perception of social 214 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,280 media always having a negative influence. 215 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,080 Well, no, it's how do we choose to use it? 216 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,080 Right. 217 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,280 We've got to take ownership of things like that. 218 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,480 And so how will we use it? 219 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,260 And throughout the entire book, you can see that I pressed into using social media to 220 00:13:13,260 --> 00:13:19,520 try to be real and raw and authentic at the same time, encourage others. 221 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,000 I was being so encouraged by them. 222 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,320 So I loved how the creative editor of the publishing company that I'm with even put 223 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,720 a little flower on the front cover, just showing that from this dirt that beauty can come. 224 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,920 So it never was a pre-thought out of, oh, I have my face on the cover. 225 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,920 No, I am. 226 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,200 If you know me, you know that is not me. 227 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,800 It's very vulnerable, vulnerable moment. 228 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,600 And then of course to put it out there, it's like, okay, here you go. 229 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,400 So yeah, yeah, that was hard, but it is what it is. 230 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,160 And throughout the whole book, you get the genuine raw me. 231 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,840 So that's where I am on the front cover too. 232 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,840 Excellent. 233 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,400 So we'll expect a sequel next year. 234 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,840 I don't know about that. 235 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,520 This gave it my all. 236 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:15,320 So talking a little more on the broad entrepreneurial spectrum, I think something just from a quick 237 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,820 little basic research for this, that a mission statement is very important to you. 238 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:28,920 And I think that can be a step that a lot of entrepreneurs sometimes overlook or maybe 239 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,280 kind of have a vague sense of it. 240 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,340 Maybe it's a tactic instead of a mission statement. 241 00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:41,080 So if you don't mind, could you share your mission statement and what makes from like 242 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,880 a mission statement to a really good one? 243 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Yeah. 244 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Mine would be to encourage, inspire, and equip others to intentionally live their life. 245 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Pretty basic. 246 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:51,920 And that's just who I am. 247 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,400 I like to encourage other people. 248 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,240 I don't realize the inspiration that comes. 249 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,880 I still, I have a hard time sometimes believing that things that I share are inspirational, 250 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,080 but that is something that has been reflected back to me in the comments I've received. 251 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,160 So things that we can use that we don't even realize about our life that truly can inspire 252 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,160 others. 253 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,160 And then equip. 254 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,440 And how do we equip them is it's not just have them one of those sessions, raise it 255 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,280 there and hash everything out. 256 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,160 No, it's, okay, then what do we do with this? 257 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,300 How can we use this? 258 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:24,300 Where can we take this? 259 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:28,080 How can we grow from this, learn from it, and just have that self-development mindset, 260 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,240 that growth mindset? 261 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:35,400 So taking those three and personally impacting them into each of our lives of living our 262 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,620 life intentionally. 263 00:15:36,620 --> 00:15:40,640 And so I look at everything that I do with the podcast, with the book, with the writing 264 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,680 that I'm involved in, with my website, with my speaking, everything, social media. 265 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,640 I go back to how is this encouraging? 266 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,640 How is it inspiring? 267 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:49,640 How is it equipping? 268 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,600 And if it's not one of those, it's not going to make the cut. 269 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,560 So it helps me stay grounded too. 270 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,320 And we can, you know as well that everything, there's so many different squirrels to go 271 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,420 off on, right? 272 00:16:00,420 --> 00:16:04,200 And so just when we think, oh, I should be doing that, or we'll see someone that's in 273 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,240 our genre of what they do as a creative artist or an entrepreneur. 274 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,800 And you think, oh, I need to add that. 275 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,940 Well, that's not necessarily for us. 276 00:16:11,940 --> 00:16:14,560 Let them succeed in that. 277 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,360 And blowing out someone else's candle doesn't make your shine any brighter, right? 278 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,760 So encourage them in that area. 279 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,680 But stick with what your niche is. 280 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,080 Stick with who you are and what comes natural and authentically to you. 281 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,240 And so I just find a mission statement helps ground you so you don't chase those squirrels 282 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,640 that go back to, okay, what is my intention? 283 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,080 What is my purpose in this? 284 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,160 I like that. 285 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:45,360 And I had a candle blowing, or blowing light, a lit candle right before jumping on this 286 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,360 recording. 287 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,520 So I had to blow it out. 288 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,360 So I like that metaphor of blowing someone else's candle out. 289 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,100 Doesn't make your shine brighter. 290 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:57,760 But it does mean my dogs will not be starting a fire in the house. 291 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,760 So I'm all for that. 292 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Smart move. 293 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Smart move. 294 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Yeah. 295 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,760 All for it. 296 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,760 All for it. 297 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,760 There are safety issues too. 298 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Exactly. 299 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,760 Exactly. 300 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Now, entrepreneurship wasn't always the plan. 301 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Wasn't the plan at all, really. 302 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,680 And then I think even talking with people who, like when they were five, they're like, 303 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,680 I want to start a business. 304 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,040 Like, that's been their hope and dream their whole life. 305 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,600 There's still all kinds of surprises and unforeseen things. 306 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,640 So what's something about being an entrepreneur that surprised you? 307 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,400 I think one is the challenges. 308 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,360 There's going to be a challenge with anything, but the challenges that you're going to have 309 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:31,360 to overcome. 310 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:36,880 And in my case, myself, you know what, I talk on some of my podcast episodes of one of my 311 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,440 biggest issues was that, as I referred to earlier, the imposter syndrome, where you're 312 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,840 just thinking, who am I to do this? 313 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,840 And are people going to learn from this and grow from this? 314 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,180 And is this the direction I should be going? 315 00:17:49,180 --> 00:17:53,800 And so the challenges you're going to have to overcome, not necessarily to succeed, because 316 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,840 if you're doing, if you're on the right path, you're supposed to be on, success is going 317 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,840 to come. 318 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,960 But there's another thing is what does success look like to you? 319 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,040 So success to me is not going to be the fame or the fortune. 320 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,600 It's going to be the purpose of going back to, is it encouraging? 321 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Is it inspiring? 322 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,600 Is it equipping people? 323 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,720 And if it is, that has been successful to me. 324 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,760 So you've got to look at the challenges that you're going to present to yourself, but then 325 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,600 also that are going to come along the way to just be able to press through some things 326 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,680 to go, no, I am on that right track and keep going. 327 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,280 I feel like I see these discussions on Twitter all the time lately of someone being like, 328 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,200 hey, I need to better take control of my calendar. 329 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,480 I've missed six months of emails because I'm so bad at checking email or whatever. 330 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,280 And then they're asking for a resource or a tool or something like that. 331 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:49,280 So in your journey, have you found whether it's an organization tool or some kind of 332 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,080 technology or maybe it's just the act of journaling or whatever, but some sort of resource that 333 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,280 has been very helpful to you that you think might help some other people? 334 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,880 Well, those who I work with would laugh because they would tell you, yes, it's a pen and a 335 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,200 piece of paper. 336 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,960 I am so old school. 337 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,200 There's so many apps out there that work for people and that's great. 338 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,920 And there's so many different resources and gadgets available. 339 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,480 I truly am old school. 340 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,200 I always have a pen and a piece of paper or a pad paper with me. 341 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,200 I'm always taking notes. 342 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,080 I'm always jotting down my to-do list. 343 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,080 And so I'm staying productive. 344 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:31,080 I think that is one thing is we can definitely learn our personality traits and you can take 345 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,920 personality assessments for those. 346 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,560 One of my favorite is discover your strengths. 347 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,840 And that really takes you through looking at kind of your top five and helps you understand 348 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,160 a little bit more about yourself. 349 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,880 So for myself, I know that I'm an achiever. 350 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,000 And so I always have to have a goal. 351 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,160 And I also have to like, well, I tend to like to just check things off. 352 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,360 And so therefore I know having that piece of paper and that pen with me, I'm able to 353 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:57,120 jot down to keep me productive, keep me achieving. 354 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:01,040 But then also there's such self-gratification, I guess, and being able to check something 355 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,040 off. 356 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,440 So I think ultimately it's going to depend on what works for you. 357 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,040 And everyone's going to be so different. 358 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,640 For some it's that app. 359 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,880 For others, it's having a mentor that helps push them through it or a leadership or a 360 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,360 life coach that holds them accountable. 361 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,160 So there's so many different avenues and resources, but it's what works for you. 362 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:24,760 And at the end of the day, my pad of paper and my pen are pretty much all that I need. 363 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Crossing something off a list is so gratifying. 364 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Isn't it? 365 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Just the act of crossing. 366 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,280 So I empathize. 367 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:36,160 Do you have, since you're so, you always have a pen and paper, do you have like a preferred 368 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,160 pen? 369 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,320 Or do you have like a pen and paper that you're like, I need the BIC 5500 or whatever? 370 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,720 I feel like you're like reading into my soul right now. 371 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,800 I do. 372 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,080 And I can't say that it is a brand, but it is a color. 373 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,520 I have to have a purple, a pink, or a blue. 374 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,800 And when I say blue, I'm not talking just like your regular writing pen blue. 375 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,560 I'm talking almost like a felt blue or even like a turquoise blue if you're going to go 376 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,560 with the ink. 377 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,560 But yeah, I do. 378 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,560 I have to have color. 379 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,560 I love color. 380 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,440 I have to have something about colorful, well color that just brings life to color and just 381 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,920 brings me joy and kind of just makes me smile. 382 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:15,920 So yeah. 383 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,120 And I do color code things too. 384 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:19,120 Maybe a little OCD. 385 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,120 Maybe a little bit. 386 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:21,120 Well, I like that. 387 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:22,120 Yeah. 388 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:27,400 I was going to ask if there's certain codes for each color. 389 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,400 So lovely. 390 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,400 Lovely to hear. 391 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,400 Yeah. 392 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,400 Yeah. 393 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,400 Yeah. 394 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,560 So one of the elements that you've mentioned is your speaking career as well. 395 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,640 And I always like to ask anyone that does anything that's like on a stage, what's one 396 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,080 of the worst gigs that you've had? 397 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,600 Ooh, one of the worst gigs. 398 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,480 That's a really good question. 399 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:51,600 I have been so fortunate to be able to speak with so many that are very respectful and 400 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,600 accommodating. 401 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:59,440 I want to be accommodating, just like, I guess, giving you attention and encouragement and 402 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,240 even validation if we're being honest. 403 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,200 So I can't say that I've had a negative experience. 404 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,880 However, I can say I had the most challenging experience, and that was with my health. 405 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,800 It was a few years ago, and I was speaking at a women's Christmas tea, and they had, 406 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,040 oh goodness, three to 500 people that I was speaking in front of. 407 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,800 And to make matters worse, it was about an hour and a half or so away from where I lived. 408 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,080 And so I told them, you know, I don't need a hotel or anything. 409 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,080 I'll just drive up. 410 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Well, ended up a blizzard that night. 411 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Total total blizzard. 412 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,140 So driving there and not being able to see more than, I swear, you know, maybe five inches 413 00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:40,040 in front of you, it was horrible. 414 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,680 And it was in a canyon. 415 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,680 So right. 416 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,920 So let's just make matters worse. 417 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,920 I feel like back when our parents would tell us, you know, I walked to school in our bare 418 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,920 feet, both ways. 419 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,280 Well, that's how I felt going to this place that I was going to go speak. 420 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,880 It was very hard to get there, and accommodations for that couldn't have been worse. 421 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,480 However, it was the health that I was experiencing. 422 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,120 I was experiencing some laryngitis, and so I was having a hard time even being able to 423 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:11,400 speak and all the way up there like I'm drinking water and tea and doing the throat lozenges. 424 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760 And I thought, how in the world am I going to speak? 425 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,160 How is this even going to happen? 426 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,160 And I had no clue. 427 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,160 I really didn't. 428 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,620 I thought I was going to have to get there, show that like go to communicate with them 429 00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:24,000 so they could hear that, wow, she really has nothing. 430 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,880 And then we'd have to go to Plan B, you know, type thing. 431 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Like I really wasn't sure how this was going to come out. 432 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:34,360 But I got up there when we got into the administration group that was overseeing the event. 433 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,920 You know, they take me into the kind of the green room and we go to talk and they can 434 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 hear I have nothing but a whisper. 435 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,600 And they're like, are you okay? 436 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,600 Are you going to be able to do this? 437 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,600 I'm like, I don't know. 438 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,840 We know we're just going to have to see. 439 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,240 So the good thing is, is we had about a 30 or 45 minute kind of dinner beforehand where 440 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,960 everyone was kind of just getting to know each other and so forth and connecting before 441 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,500 I was to go up. 442 00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:04,120 And so they took me to this nice honored spot to sit and they told everyone around me, don't 443 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,600 do anything to have her talk to you. 444 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,720 She has to save her voice for up there because she's losing her voice. 445 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,200 And I remember the looks on their faces, but so fortunately they had allowed me to bring 446 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240 my mom with me and she was always my biggest supporter. 447 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,320 And so she just carried that conversation for me the entire time. 448 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,640 And I sat there again drinking and drinking. 449 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:28,760 So by the time I went up, total praise to God, I was able to have a voice for that 30 450 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,760 minutes that I spoke. 451 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560 And I was so, so grateful. 452 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,640 So once I was done with that, then I was able to go back and sit and drink and all of that 453 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,640 type of stuff. 454 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,680 So anyhow, I was, I was amazed. 455 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,840 I was able to complete that, but so thankful to God that he gave me the voice just long 456 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,800 enough and going home, I had no voice. 457 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800 It was gone again and I didn't have it for a few days. 458 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:55,000 So truly, truly amazing, amazing opportunity, but truly something I credit to God. 459 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000 That is fantastic. 460 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,400 I would have loved to see the reactions of like, no, no, no, she can't talk. 461 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,400 Right? 462 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,400 Talk amongst yourself. 463 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,400 She, she does not speak. 464 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,520 Well, and for me, I'm such a talker that I was like, oh my gosh, I feel so bad. 465 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,960 Like there's so much guilt right now. 466 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Have I hurt your feelings? 467 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Or I was like, no, just get over it. 468 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,960 That is fantastic. 469 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,440 Now something else we've kind of touched on a little bit of, of all the different people 470 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:27,700 who have helped out in various stages along the way, which I think ties in nicely with 471 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:29,360 mentorship in general. 472 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:34,800 And I think people, I know sometimes like, especially when I was growing up, I'd hear 473 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:40,400 mentor and I was like, oh, this is like an older person who's been through a lot that 474 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:46,040 I can just go meet up with for like four hours and be like, Hey, tell me everything. 475 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,040 Tell me all your secrets. 476 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Soak it in, soak it in. 477 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:55,680 Which yes, which very well could be a mentorship, but it can look all kinds of different ways. 478 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,800 So how can people go about finding a mentor that is a good fit for them? 479 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,800 And do you have a single person who's been your most impactful mentor? 480 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Yeah. 481 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,800 Let me answer. 482 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,840 I'm going to answer those backwards. 483 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,880 So first of all, do I have a mentor? 484 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,880 Absolutely. 485 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,400 And I have been so blessed that my mentors have come so close in proximity to me as well 486 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,720 as relationally to me. 487 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,860 So first and foremost, the most spiritual person I know is my dad. 488 00:26:21,860 --> 00:26:26,880 He is a retired senior pastor, was for over 30 years. 489 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,480 And so I know I can go to him with anything and everything. 490 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,160 And he's one truly, I just, it's like sitting at the feet of Jesus, right? 491 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,120 I just want to soak it up, soak it up. 492 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:36,120 And I just can't get it enough. 493 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,260 My brain just doesn't work like that. 494 00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:40,240 So he is definitely my spiritual mentor. 495 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,240 And then my mom, I'm not sure if I've ever known someone to have a heart like my mother. 496 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,560 And so she was one I could go to with anything in life, whether it be raising my kids or 497 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,180 how to overcome this, this hurt I felt in a relationship, a friendship or, or what to 498 00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:56,720 do in this situation. 499 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,000 Or even as I shared, she would come to all my speaking gigs and, and just give me critiques 500 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,800 afterward of, oh, you could have improved here. 501 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Oh, I like really this, you know, whatever. 502 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,160 So she was a great mentor in that. 503 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,600 My sister and her husband are just exceptional parents. 504 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,640 And so they are a mentor to me in the parental role. 505 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,320 And then of course, my brother, I know of no other strong business man, business woman, 506 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,840 business man, for that matter than my brother. 507 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,240 And so he's been some wise counsel on leadership and in business. 508 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,280 So those are my circle. 509 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,640 And that's where I would go to advise listeners that it doesn't have to be one person. 510 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,360 And so often we can sit there and go, okay, we're going to look for one person to mentor 511 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,360 me. 512 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,440 And my mom, she used to always say growing up, have someone that you look up to that 513 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,560 is a mentor to you, but then pass that on to someone. 514 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,400 But I think we've kind of developed into an age where it's not just that one person, but 515 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,400 it's more of a team. 516 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,080 And I think that's where it's so important to not be the smartest person in the room, 517 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,080 right? 518 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,880 Or the smartest person at the table, because what are you learning from? 519 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,880 What are you growing? 520 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,880 How are you growing? 521 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,080 And so it's so important to surround yourself with other people who are exceptional in areas 522 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:09,240 where perhaps you're a little bit weaker or just not as educated or things just don't 523 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,440 come as natural or gifted to you. 524 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 And you can look for those in all different arenas. 525 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,900 That might be in if you're involved in church, in your church, or if you're involved in community 526 00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:24,480 groups or networking groups, or again, at work or in your own family, friendships, even 527 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,480 neighbors. 528 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,840 I had a neighbor that moved a few years ago. 529 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,600 And when I was getting my master's degree, my math is just not my forte, right? 530 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,600 We were talking math earlier and I'm like, sure, whatever you want to say. 531 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600 I'm not going to try and guess what that line is. 532 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,040 But he was a great mentor to me in that. 533 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,560 And I totally credit him as to how I even passed that class. 534 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,040 So not to be so narrow minded that we think this is the only way a mentor looks and this 535 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,360 is the only place we can find a mentor. 536 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,360 Be more open. 537 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,700 And our mentors can come from all ages too. 538 00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:02,520 When my mother was a younger pastor's wife, she had older people in the church congregation 539 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,560 teach her how to do canning. 540 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,680 And that is something she was able to then throughout the years teach other people and 541 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,000 then even do for others, right? 542 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:18,320 At the same time, she also was able to learn how to sew and so forth from some of the younger 543 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,480 ones. 544 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,200 And then she was able to later on in life be able to impact at Huntsman Cancer Institute 545 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,080 making over 200 ropes for cancer patients. 546 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,000 So again, look for those who are older than us, look for those who are younger than us 547 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000 that can teach us things. 548 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:39,080 But then also look at our circles that we're in, just everyday life and learn from them 549 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,240 and reach out to them. 550 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400 Hey, would you mind kind of being my mentor? 551 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,360 I mean, sometimes it just happens. 552 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Other times if you just reach out and ask, they'll have more of an intentional connection 553 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000 with you. 554 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000 I like that. 555 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,440 We're going to give your brother a shout out as well. 556 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,840 What's something that he has consulted you on that you're like, oh, that was good. 557 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,840 Oh, goodness. 558 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,680 Well, I have to shout out he actually is getting ready to retire. 559 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,680 So I'm so proud of him. 560 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,640 He's been in the same business for over 28 years. 561 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,680 So amazing, amazing man. 562 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,160 But I think one thing that he really helped me with is the leadership of other people. 563 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,400 He was really in fact on Holly's highlights, my podcast on season one, episode two, I believe 564 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,220 it was I had him on for how to be a leader others follow. 565 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:26,600 And he is that I mean, to the point that when they moved him to another location, they had 566 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,360 to say, but you can't take anyone with you because they all wanted to follow him. 567 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:36,280 So I think that's one of the main things that he would help me on is how to positively influence 568 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:43,000 other people when when sometimes I was too tentative on hurting their feelings or how 569 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,080 this would impact them or their family on decisions I had to make. 570 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,200 And he was very influential in just helping me get through that and in doing so in a caring 571 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,260 touch, but then also with a business mindset. 572 00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:55,260 Love it. 573 00:30:55,260 --> 00:30:57,040 Of course, we've talked a lot of business. 574 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,520 Yeah, we got to have some play too. 575 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,240 So you're almost off the hook here, but we always wrap up with a top three. 576 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,760 And what are your top three vacation destinations? 577 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,280 Oh, my top three vacation destinations that I want to travel to would number one be Prague. 578 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,960 And that is simply going back to my brother. 579 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,400 He's traveled everywhere. 580 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,700 And he said Prague was was his favorite. 581 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,640 So I want to go there. 582 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,880 Second one would be the Mediterranean, specifically Venice. 583 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480 I want to go and just do a gondola ride. 584 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,040 And I know Paris isn't necessarily right there, but I attach Paris into the Mediterranean 585 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960 because I'm willing to do that little plane hopper. 586 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,720 And then the third one would be Greece. 587 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,360 And again, going back to my parents, they traveled a lot and that was their favorite. 588 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,920 So I'd like to experience. 589 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,960 Yeah, Prague, Mediterranean, including Paris, and then Greece. 590 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,960 Lovely. 591 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,200 Well, I if you'd like to tap your brother, I will be in Prague days after your book comes 592 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200 out. 593 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,320 So please send any recommend. 594 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320 All right, I will. 595 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,320 I will. 596 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,320 I'll check with them. 597 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,320 Excellent. 598 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,320 Thank you. 599 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,320 Thank you. 600 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760 And thank you for a lovely, wonderful conversation. 601 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,800 I know we were talking beforehand. 602 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,640 I always feel inspired at the end of these podcasts. 603 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Mission accomplished again, because this was fantastic. 604 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,800 It was such an honor to be on. 605 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Thank you so much. 606 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,800 Absolutely. 607 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,800 Absolutely. 608 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,560 And if people want to learn more about you, check out all of the things that you're doing. 609 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,640 I feel like I need a pen and paper for all the all the things to go through and make 610 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,920 sure I'm finding everything. 611 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Where can I find you? 612 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,920 I'll make it so simple. 613 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,920 Just go to hollycurby.com. 614 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,920 So that's H-O-L-L-Y-C-U-R-B-Y.com. 615 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,920 It has everything there. 616 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:35,560 As far as the book, it's available wherever you purchase your books. 617 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,400 So all bookstores as well as online retailers. 618 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,720 So whether it be Barnes and Noble, Walmart, or even going on and doing Amazon or Thrift 619 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,720 Books, it's available. 620 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,160 So go ahead and check it out. 621 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,160 Thank you. 622 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,160 Wonderful. 623 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,160 Thank you again, Holly. 624 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,040 And of course, we've got to end with a corny joke, as we always do. 625 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,840 Why are spiders so smart? 626 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:01,120 I feel like this should have something to do with their eight legs that I give up. 627 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,120 Why? 628 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,920 They can find everything on the web. 629 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,360 Get after them, people. 630 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,600 Good People, Cool Things is produced in Austin, Texas. 631 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,100 If you were a fan of this episode, go ahead and hit that follow button. 632 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,400 That helps more people hear the show. 633 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,640 You can send me a message, joey at goodpeoplecoolthings.com. 634 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,520 Thank you to all of the guests who have been on Good People, Cool Things. 635 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,240 You can check out all the old episodes via goodpeoplecoolthings.com. 636 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:47,280 As always, thank you for listening and have a wonderful day.