And he also has the worst amulet in Skyrim.
Here's a cooldown on Fum.
Get that out of my face, bro.
All right.
It's the worst one.
First of all, I'm sorry you've never known the sheer thrill
of Fusro dying someone off a cliff and then being able to do it much sooner
because of the cooldown on that amulet.
First of all, second of all, you know what?
Again, lightning storm.
The whole thing becomes lightning.
Cooldown on shouts is amazing.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Warhammer Versus.
Today we are having a matchup of absolutely titanic figures in two different settings.
On the one hand, in the red corner, we have the Amber King.
And in the blue corner, we have Ancreus Newark or Colin, as we like to call him.
And this is a match between emperors, that emperor of mankind of Warhammer
and Talos from the Elder Scrolls series.
He loves you.
I will be his crown for this episode.
Discount emperor.
Oh, please.
Discount emperor is already kicking off.
So because Eli is currently in honeymoon mode from his wedding,
insert, I wonder what Eli is doing at the moment.
Oh, shit, fuck on my roommate's door, ha.
That'll be a bit of fun.
So with that in mind, I will be the sole judge for this episode.
I want a nice clean fight between the two of you.
For anyone who's not seen our last episode, we're going to have three rounds,
six minutes on the first round, three in the second and one vitriolic round to round it all off.
But before we begin, the pain that's going to ensue.
First of all, let's talk to Hal.
How do you think things are going to go with this debate?
Oh, I think I've got the better character on my side.
So let's just I mean, why are we even here?
It's just conceived straight away.
Actually, I'm not going to win, but I'll try.
Wow, fighting words.
And what is your response to that, Colin?
I smell I smell the fear that's last line he threw.
He knows he's not going to win.
He knows.
Some as someone who is who's crossed blades, shall we say, with Colin in the debating arena.
I do not envy you, Hal.
So I think it was a resounding success for Colin in the last episode.
But this one, we'll have to wait and see.
With all that said, I suppose we'll start with how with round one.
Are you ready, Hal?
I'm ready.
OK, take it away.
So before we get on to Mr.
Schrodinger's douchebag over in the corner over there, your honor,
I am talking about the emperor of mankind, the carrion lord,
basically the one who's supplying all of us with our current employment.
He is the most powerful psychic in the entire galaxy.
Some of his little special abilities is he can actually change his entire form.
So some people never even see his true face.
He can read minds.
So any of you having dirty thoughts such as Talos worship, I see you in the corner.
Yes, he knows all about it.
The emperor can see the future to the degree that he can even see futures upon futures,
multiple timelines.
He also has the power to imbue objects with his own special source, but his own power.
So he could imbue his own sword with just flame.
And I'll go into more specifics later.
And he could even send his mind across the galaxy.
So when the missing Primarchs were all scattered from him, he literally closed his eyes and peer out into the universe.
And particularly for Colin, may I remind you of the story when the Eldar were infiltrating the Imperial Palace
and they were in the presence of the emperor and they were just in awe of him?
Yes, this is some Eldar hate.
Even they acknowledged.
After a lot of custodies.
After their custodies, but even they acknowledged how powerful the emperor was.
The emperor is a perpetual.
He cannot die even from old age.
He can regenerate even the most grievous of wounds.
One I'll talk about later.
But like I say, he's literally immortal.
He cannot, you know, he can die and die, but death cannot hold him.
But if we start from the beginning of the emperor's story,
he is most likely some of the most greatest conquerors throughout human history.
Didn't just conquer one land, Tamriel.
He conquered the earth and worlds multiple times.
He may have even been Alexander the Great for all your history people out there.
He even battled a Katarn Shard of the void dragon one on one.
Proceeded to say that wasn't good enough.
Rocketed up to Mars and locked it within the core of the planet itself.
Just because he could.
Why not?
For the millennia, the emperor has lived.
Yes, millennia, not a century.
You know, some people die, you know, they have mortality.
That sucks.
The emperor has watched humanity grow.
He's been there the entire time contributing to science, art, technology.
Things you couldn't even dream of being possible.
The emperor has been part of it.
He's been the architect of it, too.
He also lived during the golden age of mankind.
The height of our power, knowledge.
He was there.
He saw it, not a measly little small.
Was it the third empire?
Third, third under charm, I see.
And when humanity fell into darkness and we were going to be lost,
the emperor himself became the emperor so that he could save humanity with his grand
plan.
He is the only man to literally step into hell itself,
emerge more powerful than any other being in the universe.
And then he also walked away from the chaos gods with knowledge and power
that he had no right having.
Yeah, he literally, he, you know, he basically went in and said,
I don't care.
I will not be corrupted.
They couldn't even corrupt him.
Horror sucks.
I'm just saying it.
They even call him the anathema because the entire Horus heresy was architected
because they were afraid of the emperor from his own DNA.
He made the literal demigods of the setting, the Primarchs,
the most interesting characters.
I should know that's a bit of film.
Not fair.
But he also crafted the custodians, literally the perfect warriors,
perfect humans, even has the greatest army in the galaxy.
These space marines, which are definitely on all of our shelves for people who are
listening, and he also led the great crusade.
He literally conquered the galaxy in a few short centuries.
I'm pretty sure it took Talos most of his lifetime, so that sucks, mate.
And even when the heresy began, it literally took all of the chaos gods to send the hordes
of hell upon him, and he held back their power from terror by himself with just his mind.
And even when, even when all the chaos gods decided the emperor need to be taken down
a few pegs, they had to power up Horus, four chaos gods, one Horus, they had to power him up,
and Horus still got clapped.
That's right.
Even after the four chaos gods tried their best, the emperor was like,
ah, I wasn't really feeling it, but I'll just go for it.
And he flexed himself and he baited me down Horus in one go.
And dare I say, bringing in Colin's favorite character, Mr. Gillerman over here,
when Gillerman met the emperor in the 41st millennium, he even says his power has only grown.
And he is well on his way to becoming an actual god in the Warhammer setting,
one that will rival even the chaos gods themselves.
And if I have enough time, I'll talk about the awesome story of when he stormed into the webway
with the custodians, the most like air guitar ripping scene in the entire setting,
where he literally was described as a sunlight beaming through and literally eviscerating the
forces of hell.
I think that's my time.
That's time.
That is six minutes.
Wow, that was a very riveting start.
I mean, I don't know if you can hear it, but there are church bells outside my flat as we speak.
Celebration.
Celebration of the emperor of mankind.
That's a very strong start.
Colin, are you ready for your rebuttal of that?
I am indeed ready for my rebuttal.
Well, your six minutes start now.
Ah, well, let me just poison the well from the get go and say that Hal was caught supporting
the Thalmor in the Discord.
So anything that comes out of his mouth must be noticed.
That's the word of a dirty Thalmor supporter.
So you just keep that in mind going forward.
But let me tell you about Talos, who's also an emperor of mankind, but so much more than that.
You see, Talos was born just a mortal man.
And you might think that's a strike against him.
But consider this.
The emperor, you know, he's been a perpetual god for quite some time.
And yet it still took him, you know, what, 30,000 years to get humanity's act together
after it kept falling apart.
Talos was having none of that and as still a mere mortal man, he conquered all of Tamriel.
He brought it under his control into, yes, the third empire, but that's hardly his fault.
There were other empires in human history before the emperor of mankind.
There were emperors before Talos.
This is his start.
So Talos, quite an amazing general, quite an amazing general.
He's a, I said general twice, amazing warriors, what I meant to say one of those times.
He was also something known as Dragonborn, which I'll talk about it later.
You know, you might be familiar with that if you played Skyrim or if existed on the internet at all.
Talos in one year took Cyrodiil and just kept going.
But let me tell you something that Talos is also great at doing.
Diplomacy and talking to people, which the emperor probably could use a lot more of,
but Talos, Tiber Septim, he knows what's up.
And so through not just having the biggest dick around, he actually smartly brought everyone into the fold,
be it the Somerset Isles and the High Elves or Morrowind, the Dark Elves.
Unfortunately, he did not honor the Sixth House and the tribe unmoored,
but he still brought it into the fold.
He also had a magical Warhammer Titan, Warlord Titan, Numidium, except unlike the emperors,
whenever you turn that thing on, reality breaks.
So I'd love to see the emperor try and take over Tamriel when he flips the continuity error robot on.
And of course, we wouldn't be just debating him if he was just, you know,
the mere mortal man of Tiber Septim, although there was nothing near about this mortal,
for he became the god Talos.
And that is when Tiber Septim really comes into himself.
Because let's, you talked about the emperor's godhood of strength.
Let's talk about Talos's strength.
So first of all, he completely remade the landscape of Cyrodiil.
He remade it from a lush jungle to a wonderfully pleasant, you know, a nice, great grasslands,
good lord, I'm really bringing out my Heimskirith, how passionate I am about Talos.
And not only, you know, he just remade the land with magic, he did it retroactively.
So, you know, the emperor, he gained a bunch of power, but before he gained that power,
he was still the old emperor.
Talos made it so that Cyrodiil was always a grassland.
It was never a jungle, even though it was a jungle, it was always a grassland.
That's how goddamn powerful he is.
Speaking of power, that dragonborn thing I mentioned is very important,
because in the song of the dragonborn, you know, the thing that gets released every five minutes
when Bethesda is releasing Skyrim again,
it says that the dragonborn has the power to rival the sun.
And in the Elder Scrolls, that's not just, that sounds cool, sounds powerful.
The sun is a hole into an infinite void of magic and pure, unlimited energy.
Which means if you take that at face value, and I'm not going to lie,
which means if you take that at face value, and I very much think we should,
Tiber Septim's Talos's power is unlimited, not as powerful as the Chaos Gods or the other ones.
Endless, boundless.
And of course, that's before we even talk about things like Chim.
Chim, also known as, how much LSD did you take when you wrote this lore?
Essentially, Tiber Septim is beyond God.
He's aware of the nature of the universe and can remake it to his content as such.
It is as if the entire universe is not but Talos's lucid dream.
So Talos, you know, he doesn't need to fight the Emperor,
he just goes into the NPC list and deletes the file.
No more Emperor.
But of course, that's not all.
For Talos is more than just a god, more than just a hero of men,
general, Emperor, leader, warrior, whatever have you.
Talos, upon his ascension to Godhood, became a pillar of the world itself, of all of reality.
Now the Emperor, if he dies, that's bad, I will admit.
But it won't be one minute to go, instant game over.
Because, you know, Chaos will still need time to take over all of the galaxy,
the other Xenos, the Orcs, the Necrons would need time to really mobilize to this affair.
If you take Talos out, game over.
Reality zero sums, resets to nothing.
Which should go to show you just how damn powerful and important he is.
Take the Emperor out, it sucks.
You take Talos out, there is no more reality.
He is such an integral part of existence, showing just how powerful he is.
How unbelievably amazing is a god this being is.
He's completed the nine divines, Umaril could not be slain without the full nine divines,
Talos ascended, backing them.
And it was with him that the Pantheon of the Elder Scrolls was completed.
And I feel like I need say no more.
Also, I have like 30 seconds left, so.
You have like two seconds.
Not even.
Not bad.
Very nice.
Well, that was a riveting start.
I'm just going to go out.
I mean, the bells have also been chiming at the end of that one.
It's a very interesting parallel.
What do you think?
Well, both emperors were mortal once.
They were both given kind of a MacGuffin.
You know, the Emperor had the ability of the first Psyker.
Talos was the Dragonborn.
Both have extreme power in, I guess you would call it magic powers.
I like what Colin said about, you know, Talos file deleting and his contributions to Tamriel itself.
But then again, Hal also mentioned things like the Emperor of Mankind is a bit of a scholar and a scientist, but also a conqueror.
And both have enriched the lives of and histories of where they're from.
It's going to be a tricky one.
I mean, I have not cast my votive spell yet.
There's still a lot to play for.
The bells have resumed for the next volley.
So with that said, we've got a three minute round to go.
How are you guys feeling at the moment?
I'm feeling confident because I just know that in a 1v1, it will just clap him.
So it's fine.
I feel well, well supported in my skills at internet arguments that.
True. I've activated your trap card now.
Heimsker's passion is flowing through me.
He means the character that you called, training practice, your greatest speaker, Heimsker.
Listen, I said his passion is flowing through me, not his everything else.
He's like a migraine.
Heimsker is destined for the black soldier I have in my pocket, but his passion is commendable.
Well, on that rather zealous note, I believe it's time we begin the next round.
These rounds are three minutes each.
So Hal, are you ready?
I'm ready.
OK, it's all yours.
Your three minutes start now.
I'll start off by just saying, I'm going to be the first one to go.
Now, I'll start off by just saying, where is the Septim Dynasty?
Oh, where is Martin?
Yeah, they're all gone.
Oh, so sad.
But sort of being on the negative side, your honor, I'm just going to talk about the Emperor's
drip, your honor.
The mastercrafted aura of my armor of the Emperor of mankind is untouchable.
Talos looks boring as hell.
He is nothing compared to how majestic the master of mankind is.
His custom armor, the scrollwork, the gold.
He has his custom black and bronze decorated bolter that he handcrafted himself.
He also has his own Emperor's sword, which I mentioned earlier.
Talos's sword is pretty boring.
He doesn't even touch it after a while.
The Emperor's sword is alive with flame.
It can even destroy a demon and grant it true death.
I'm pretty sure Talos hasn't done anything of that kind.
And the Emperor, to be in his presence, literally brings you to your knees.
You literally weep tears of pure joy as you look upon humanity distilled.
The Emperor is hope.
He is strength and wisdom.
He is the best of what humanity can achieve.
He is thousands upon thousands of years of information and life distilled into one being.
And maybe Talos is known as the great conqueror, but the Emperor is not just a conqueror.
The great crusade itself is no simple conquest of the galaxy.
It is a mission of enlightenment.
It was part of the Emperor's salvation.
He did not conquer the galaxy because he wanted to.
He did it to save humanity.
His desire is to unite all of us in the distant worlds in the Warhammer world.
Warhammer galaxy, excuse me.
And to bring them all into the safety of the webway.
So I'm sure Talos just thought of making a nice empire.
That was it.
The Emperor is literally saving the entire human race as he brings us all into the safety of the webway
and out of the influence of chaos.
In there he will build a united humanity empire itself where the only things we have to worry about
are exploring knowledge and just peace itself.
Peace and a new golden age.
And the last thing I'll say about Talos is how useful was he towards the end?
I mean, his throat got scarred.
You know, couldn't you?
I mean, Dragonborn couldn't even be the Dragonborn after a certain amount of time.
How useful is that?
Essentially, he's just a big bureaucrat, essentially sitting on a throne.
And all he did was make a third attempt at an empire that eventually fell when the Oblivion Gate opened.
That's your time.
Well, I think that was certainly...
I know we said there would be a vitriolic final round, but we're getting started now.
Colin, how are you feeling?
I feel like he's given me plenty of ammunition for the third round,
but I will save the vitriol for them because I have plenty of actual points to make still for the next round.
Oh, I see how it is.
Okay.
Well, are you ready to put one in the chamber for the next round, shall we say?
I am.
Well, your time starts now.
Well, I'm glad you brought up the subject of the bloodline because, well, yes, they are gone.
It's important to note that the last member of Tiber Sceptome's bloodline, after centuries of it being distilled,
as you get further away from Talos himself, was still more than powerful enough to house the essence of a god
and clown on a Daedric Lord, a prince, pardon me, just completely erase one of his
gods, not erase, but banish one of the gods of the universe.
That's not even Tiber Sceptome.
That's his great-great-lot-of-greats grandson.
You mentioned, you know, he can't even shout anymore.
For quite some time, he could.
And you might go, oh, you know, Talos can unmake you with a word.
And you might go, the emperor could probably do that too.
And he could.
But the emperor's psychic powers are psychic powers.
Talos did not merely use magic.
He brought his will into world and remade it for such as the Thuum.
It's not mere magic.
It is speaking power itself into a form and ruining your enemies with it, which is what he could.
And, you know, you mentioned you became a bit of a bureaucrat.
I can't help but notice that the emperor's end goal, if everything didn't go wrong,
probably would have been much the same of just bureaucrat.
So as far as I'm concerned, that just means that Talos was successful in his empire forging
and didn't need to replace himself from emperor to chief chairsitter, as it were.
I guess I lied a little bit about the vitriol, didn't I?
But anyways, you know, and I can't help but notice again that whole godhood thing.
He ascended to godhood successfully and he did not need to steal from the chaos of the world.
God's to do so.
Such was the amazing power of Talos.
And as for his trip, I feel I should defend it.
First of all, Empire of Man, Talos, you can't beat the Roman trip.
The ultramarine is the best chapter.
Clearly agree with Talos in this one.
The Roman style trip is unparalleled.
And you claim, you know, he used the regular whatever sort.
Well, just ignore again the the Imperator Titan made out of magic and the heart of a dead god.
It's powered by, you know, well, ignore that weapon he has sitting in the corner.
I notice you've done.
I noticed he did not bring a new medium.
I won't.
I will.
I won't ignore it.
But his, you know, his regular weapons, you go, they're not trippy.
You know, they're not gaudy is what they are.
The emperor of Tamriel, Talos, Tiber Septim, he knows class when he sees it.
He appreciates the classics.
He doesn't need to drip himself out with pure gold and gaudy nonsense.
He's a down to earth man.
He even had a winning smile.
And most of all for this round, he doesn't treat his followers like dirt.
He loves his followers.
You know, give Heimskr some credit.
Talos does love you.
The Emperor doesn't give a damn about humanity.
He might love you, but that's your time, Colin.
So another thrilling round.
He might love you.
He loves you.
He does.
So I do have a question for the both of you regarding this round, though.
And it's something that I think you guys have both kind of mentioned, but I want you to elaborate.
So the Emperor of Mankind is interred on the Golden Throne and Talos has ascended to a god.
Who is actively doing more for their people in their ascended form?
I'll start with Hal.
Well, the Emperor, just by existing, is the light of the Astronomicon.
He's also holding back the tide of hell itself with his mind.
The Emperor is also, as of the most recent lore, he has reawakened.
The Emperor is out there fighting chaos as it is appearing.
He's also imbuing his power into many parts.
And he's also, in fact, took on Nurgle in Godblight, may I mention.
And he, let's just say, resurrected your favorite man, your Roman drip.
Excuse me, Mr. Gillerman.
And he looked Nurgle in the face and told him to f off.
So I think he's pretty.
All right.
He's out there.
Okay.
That was great.
Colin, what's Talos been up to now that he is a god?
Well, I feel it's quite simple and not even a contest on who's more important.
He does appear among his worshippers.
He actually does so in Morrowind.
He does take on his own avatars and gets out and about every now and then.
And most importantly, he's holding reality itself together.
And if you kill Tiber Septim, you kill Talos, you unmake him as the Thalmor intend to do.
You don't have reality anymore.
It just resets to zero.
So in terms of who's more important, the damn Altmer who you should kill on site,
all Thalmor on site, Palin O'Wyche, nothing wrong.
They succeed.
No more, no more anything.
Not even, you know, no more warp travel.
You could still sit on your planet.
You just can't leave.
No more anything.
I mean, there was a bit really early on where you guys mentioned about,
was it the emperor looking into your mind to see who you're worshipping?
It just reminds me of that.
Is it that quest in Markarth where one of the Thalmor asks you to check someone's belongings
to see if they have a pendant of Talos and tell them about it?
Because Thalmor are terrible people.
Kills.
Kill him.
Put a poison apple in his pocket.
He won't notice.
OK, we have come to the final round.
The round of vitriol, the most, shall we say, the round that might break friendships.
So before we actually do this, I want to say to our viewers that we are all friends here.
Whatever is said.
We are all united by the hate of the Thalmor.
Exactly.
We're all friends here.
I saw what you said.
We're going to end this call after this and we're all going to, you know,
you're going to pat each other on the shoulder and kiss each other on the cheek and it'll be fine.
But with that said, it is time, Hal, for your final statement of one minute.
Are you ready?
See if I can fit this all in.
OK, I'm ready.
OK, well, your time starts now.
Enough of this N'zim sympathizer.
So Talos himself, as I said earlier, he was scarred across his throat.
Maybe the dragonborn, but couldn't use his Shao after like very early in his career.
That is awful.
He achieved godhood and the only thing he seemed to do as a god was transform
Cyrodiil into a discount meadow.
That's all he's done with the godhood.
He couldn't even conquer Hammerfell until he threw a dragon at it.
He was scared of the tribunal.
He had to negotiate with them because he knew he wasn't strong enough to take them.
He couldn't even conquer the elves until he threw the dwarven Numidian.
Yes, I did bring it up.
He had to throw it at them because his armies that he made were not strong enough to take them on.
The emperor conquered the galaxy to save humanity, to bring them into the webway.
Tyber Settlement just did it because why not?
And he also has the worst amulet in Skyrim.
His cooldown on Thuum?
Get that out of my face, bro.
All right, that's your lot.
That was the amulet one that I felt my guts churn at the mention.
It's the worst one.
It's pretty terrible.
I gotta be honest.
Right, very compelling stuff.
Colin, are you ready for your final word?
Okay, Colin, your time starts now.
First of all, I'm sorry you've never known the sheer thrill of Fusro dying someone off a cliff
and then being able to do it much sooner because of the cooldown on that amulet.
First of all, second of all, you know what?
Again, lightning storm.
The whole thing becomes lightning.
Cooldown on shouts is amazing.
But anyway, speaking of the emperor mankind, he is nothing but failure.
He failed with the webway.
He failed with the suns.
Half of them turned traitor against him.
Half of the mortal army also turned traitor against him.
Don't forget that.
And you might think, oh, the webway thing wasn't him.
That was Magnus.
Magnus is his son who he created with his own power and science.
And even the charisma of a god that he has couldn't stop nine of his kids from trying
to put a dagger in his throat.
Couldn't help but notice that Talos's followers love him utterly.
And the closest thing to not liking Talos they have is temporarily halting public worship
so they can kill the elves and then get back to it.
Meanwhile, half the emperor's son.
You know, I hate my dad.
Let's kill him.
Let's shake him.
That's your minute, I'm afraid.
No more.
I felt like he needed more.
You could tell Colin wasn't even started.
He was like, I've still got so much to say.
One minute is not near enough.
I'm going to shed a tear for the potentially losing Tamriel.
The land's so big, I can walk across Scarim in 15 minutes.
You play arena and say that again.
Oh, that's true.
All right.
This is a really interesting one because I guess it's helped me to cast my vote.
Although again, this is really up to the viewers.
You've heard both sides of the debate, everyone who's been watching.
So let us know in the comments who you thought did better.
But I'm going to tell you what I think.
So round one was very interesting.
It was the most information dense.
On how side he mentioned about, you know, the fact that he was a god.
The fact that he is an incredibly powerful Psyker.
He was able to conquer massive foes such as the void dragon.
He was a scholar, an artist, a scientist and a warrior.
He ascended from a mortal man or a mortal man that was also, you know, unkillable.
So fair enough.
And also he actually went out into the stars and he conquered more than just one planet.
Then we went to Colin who talked about, you know, he was again, he wasn't really.
He did inherit gifts like the power of the dragonborn, but he wasn't as,
I suppose, overpowered from the start as the emperor, but still also became a god.
A god whose death would basically sunder existent itself.
Had the power of infinite magic drawn from the sun and these incredible
create creatures, I suppose you'd call it like the Numidian.
Round two, how mentioned the drip, which I have to admit,
emperors got really good drip and those luscious locks.
I don't know what conditioner he uses,
but my word Fabio looking good in the 41st millennium.
Well, not anymore, I suppose.
So the drip is cool, but nowadays the drip is gone.
So he does have a very flashy sword that can literally unend
beings that would otherwise be immortal, which is pretty cool.
And he did have a bright future in vision for humanity.
But then again, Kalos also had a bright vision and he seemed to have a better
shot at actually achieving it.
I don't know.
I mean, where's the empire now?
Where's the empire now?
Where is where is I've run by to an extent?
I mean, both are in a bad way.
Where the traitor legions now?
And again, the way in my basement,
Talos does actively work to help his followers, as does Biggie.
This is a really tough one.
I got to admit, it can be a draw if you want to give it to the comments.
But I will say I do like how Talos achieved his ascendancy in power through,
essentially, as far as I understand, force of sheer will rather than stealing power,
which is pretty cool.
And then the third round, there was just a lot of Duncan on the Talos amulet and fumes.
But then again, I do enjoy chucking people off mountains with Fus Rodar.
He's got the discount meadow.
That's all he's done.
Discount meadow. And again, there is a lot of copy paste of dungeons in Talos's, you know,
awesome little planet.
Because it cleared him out well.
He didn't let evil fester.
Right. And then and I will also mention that this is this is kind of a tricky one as well,
because, you know, obviously, one factor that works against Colin in this is that
the emperor in 40k is galaxy wide.
This girl is quite big.
Elder Scrolls is on a world.
So I'm not going to.
My body's still alive too.
My guy's still around.
So was mine.
All right.
Off in the corner.
It's just like I'll do something eventually.
That's it.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's a question for you, Hal.
Is the emperor actually dead and he is reborn as a god in the immaterium,
or is he still a mortal man that's just very powerful?
The answer is both.
That's that sounds like a cop out to me.
I don't know.
It's true.
He dies every day.
And he's also has godlike power.
And I'm just saying, I mean, Colin, am I wrong in remembering that good old Sean Bean Martin
was inhabited by the spirit of Talos and that he was if did his powers briefly for fighting?
Is it what's his name?
Dago?
The rules of the name Maroon's Dagon.
I mean, wasn't that how those that was the exactly?
Yeah, that was a cutoff.
Oh, so if that's the case, then I'm just trying to think of what Talos has been up to as a.
Yeah, well, he's in.
He doesn't do anything.
He said he shows up in Marwan.
He's holding reality itself together.
What?
Just by existing?
Yes.
Sit there.
He sits.
And giving out his blessings to worshipers and helping those.
The 20% called to people who can't use.
That's the game mechanic.
It is more than that.
OK, OK, OK.
Settle down.
I have made my decision.
It was a very close one.
I have to admit, the viewers might not agree with me, but I will.
I will.
I will have to say that my decision is.
Talos, the mighty, the honoring Talos, the unassailable.
I can you we give praise, but we are but maggots thriving in the filth of our own corruption
while you have ascended from the dung of mortality.
Did you pull that out?
Walk among the stars.
So that's my answer.
Did you have that?
It was a close thing.
I might have.
I had two quotes and then my decision I would do a fun one.
So the person who won my vote for that one was Colin, the undefeated versus man so far.
I can't win a damn quiz, but I can win the person.
I was going to say.
Okay, I feel like how is going to dominate the quizzes and Colin might dominate the debate.
So that was a lot of fun, though.
So you two kiss and make up.
Come on.
I'm not sure we actually should kiss on camera.
That's for the eventual page on.
I would need to stretch quite far.
So well, either way, I think that was a bit of fun and we're all friends.
We're all we're all friends.
I asked what you get for Nazeem sympathizers.
That was that was the most painfully you threw at me.
Now uncalled for.
I think I'd rather be called a Falmour supporter.
Oh, dear.
Have you ever been to the SkyJet?
No, of course not.
And on that note, this has been Warhammer Versus.
Do we have any closing thoughts from either of you about the debate and how it went?
Kill Falmour on site.
That's all we'll say.
Kill Falmour on site.
Fair enough.
Total death.
Well, I guess with that said, thank you all so much for watching the video.
If you if you if you feel inclined, please leave us a like or a comment.
Tell us what you thought and who you thought should have won the debate.
And other than that, go out to your local games.
Well, not games, games, shortstop or games, games place.
Get Skyrim.
Dig it out of the closet or the or the the game library of your your Xbox or PlayStation
or PC, wherever, and boot it up just so you can kill a few Falmour.
And I guess we'll see you in the next episode.
Catch you next time, boys.
Take care, everyone.
Throw Murr into trash compactors.