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And then he helped Johnson all over the place.

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Yeah, he lioned all over my Johnson.

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Oh, that's even worse.

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That's actually, that's definitely worse.

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Goodnight everybody.

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Johnson, see.

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Oh, stop it boys.

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Just stop.

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Hello and welcome to Lore Crimes, ladies and gentlemen.

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We were originally planned to do the Farsight Enclave today, but as you are probably aware,

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I'm hoping, we are YouTubers, which means the algorithm dictates if we eat or not.

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Algorithm for the algorithm gods.

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So, given some recent trends lately in the Warhammer releases, we've decided it would

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be prudent to cover the lion.

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So if maybe you're not too familiar with the Primarchs, because you're like me and you

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refuse to read the Whore's Heresy on moral principle, for the same reason I don't watch

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One Piece.

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You might be like, who is this dude?

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His model looks cool, but who is this dude?

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Well, we have Eli in the beginner section to tell you, and a mystery for the expert

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section.

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I know who it is, we gotta keep the audience guessing.

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But before we get into that, we have the question of the week from last week.

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It's the answers to, which of the Primarchs would you least want to babysit?

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I've pulled three of the questions from the comments, and I think I'll read them for you

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now.

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I'm feeling silly.

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I'm feeling so silly already.

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No.

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By the way, you even said silly.

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You didn't say silly, you went silly.

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I know.

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I'm actually like under my desk, my feet are like tapping.

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This is my favorite part.

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First one from Sun D Lollipop, I would least want to babysit a baby Vulcan.

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Firstly in story, it said as an infant he was the size of a large 10 year old.

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Oh my god.

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You're not giving birth to him, it's fine.

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Yeah, but imagine toddlers, when they're at that stage in life where they just want to

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run around and touch everything.

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Except this one's the size of a 10 year old and built like a brick shithouse.

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And his voice is deep as hell at mom.

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I feel like that would be a nightmare.

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Secondly he says, I cannot imagine how painful it would be to die by either asphyxiation

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or being crushed by this giant demonic looking baby as he lovingly hugs me to death.

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What's your fair point?

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I don't know if I could lift a Vulcan bear hug.

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It's a good answer.

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My spine would snap like a Kit Kat.

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It's a good answer to be fair.

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You've imagined that.

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God no.

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But you'd have to do it, you'd be like, if there's one way to go in life, you know what

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I mean, that's one way to put it on the list in terms of like old age and then Vulcan hug

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at least.

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Vulcan's a very gentle soul.

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I mean, Nibel, his adoptive father, did okay.

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I mean he was like a blacksmith so obviously he must have been quite hench and maybe he

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was like, oh I can take it but.

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Hench, get out of here.

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That's a fair point.

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We have for the next one, Zach M with the hashtag pry babies.

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The worst two pry marks to babysit would Dorn and Purdy.

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Worst case scenario, you're either locked out of your house or inside.

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Oh my god.

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Oh man.

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And the house is always fortified no matter who's with them.

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They're like making like Molotov cocktails within pitlo forts and throwing them at each

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Could you two stop for two minutes?

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You're gonna break all the furniture.

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On the bright side, the house would probably be made of like reinforced concrete so it

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wouldn't catch red fire.

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Maybe Dorn would be like, father, the shed is insufficient to defend ourselves.

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I have done this.

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Dorn, what are you doing?

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Like Phineas and Ferb but they're constantly trying to kill each other.

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Murderous.

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The neighbors will complain they could just hear like throughout the night siege fortified

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siege fortified.

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I could just imagine like a prepubescent Perth or Abbo like being relegated to the like the

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garage playing drums moodily and all the neighbors going he's making a lot of noise.

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He's venting.

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He's very frustrated these days.

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It's a very young teenager.

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Giant railway cannon the Germans built in World War Two.

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I'm imagining like one of them building that in their backyard.

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Like, they're going over the garden fence going, all right there, Peter.

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It's not Pete.

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All right, Peter.

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What are you building?

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None of your business.

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Peter.

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Yeah, that's his name.

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Peter Turbo.

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Oh my God.

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Look what Peter.

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Look what Peter built today.

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Peter and Ronald.

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Ronald.

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That's a long time.

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And for the for the last one, the worst Primark to babysit by Crimson Glory.

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Rabooty Gilliman.

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You can't even raid the amp's liquor cabinet and have your girlfriend over at the little

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guy's.

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You know, I do love Gilliman, but that little shit would be a snitch.

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He'd be the least fun.

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Like father, it is past bedtime.

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Go to bed.

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I guess that'd be convenient.

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With Korraks, it will be at least a little fun being like, where's the baby?

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And he's actually missing.

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There's no Conrad on there.

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He'd be sneaking around in the beds trying to skin your like pets alive.

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We didn't have one about Conrad.

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We had two about Conrad, although they didn't mention skinning, skinning anyone.

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Yet.

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Oh my Lord.

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These people are funny, though.

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But these are actually good answers.

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They're not the ones I thought people would pick.

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Thank you, subs.

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Thank you so much.

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Very, very cool.

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Thank you for these.

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The question we have for you all, very Dark Angels fitting, is what is the best kept secret

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in Warhammer?

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Wrong answers only, please.

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Hashtag lore lies.

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So for example, as we all know, the Emperor built the Eldar Webway project for some Eldar

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thitties.

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That is foul.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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It's also a TTS joke.

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That's foul.

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And we shall now begin the tale of Lionel Johnson.

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So with that, the questions out of the way, I shall pass it on over to Eli to let us know

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about the basic section of Lionel Johnson, the Primark of the First.

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Yeah, buddy.

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All right.

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Well, I think Lion is probably, if I had to guess, I'd say he's probably everyone's favorite

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Primark on average, maybe.

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Really?

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I think so, too.

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Lion.

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He's a big Lion simp, yeah.

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Rightly so, to be fair.

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Rightly so.

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That and also, I feel like Lion is a perfect Ryan Gosling character.

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He's like, he's literally me character.

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Yeah, he's literally me for real.

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I will say that from what I've seen in the community, people either love or hate the

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Lion.

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There's definitely like, it's not like Volkan where everyone loves him.

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It's not like Gilliman where people are indifferent, or that they either love or hate him to an

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extent.

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True.

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No, this is a good thing.

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Gilliman's like, they're either like, I like him or he's fine.

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They're not like, I hate Gilliman.

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That's true.

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Fair enough, fair enough.

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Yeah, maybe Volkan's the fan's favorite.

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But it's hard to say.

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I think Lion is pretty high up there.

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He is Ryan Gosling from Drive in a Primark, though, which is cool.

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But anyways, I'll actually talk about the lore.

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I'm not just here to make memes all day, I guess.

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Okay, so he's back.

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He's exciting.

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He's got his new model.

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He's got his new rules.

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But let's talk about who is this guy.

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In his early life, obviously, he crash landed on Caliban, one of the probably scariest worlds

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of all the Primark worlds that were landed upon, because where like, Fulgrim landed on

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Pujol, where no one can really survive, I don't know, Volkan landed on scary volcano

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planet.

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So you live on Caliban in the environment, but it's full of like the most horrifying,

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chaos tainted warped monsters in the entire galaxy, all condensed on this one planet.

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So the lion lived in this jungle forest as a little baby boy, somehow miraculously surviving

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against monsters because he's a Primark.

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So toddlers, toddler power there, I guess.

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And he lived there for quite a while, I think he was he was like a young adult almost when

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they found him, I'm pretty sure.

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Or at least like, by Primark standards, young adult for Primark is probably like, what,

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eight years old or something.

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I think he spent just about a decade, right?

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Isn't it?

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Yeah, just about a decade, like with not knowing those other humans out there.

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So then he would be found eventually by civilization by a group of knights, with the leader of

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those knights at the time being Luther, who would then adopt him as his father, and quickly

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become his friend because the fatherhood didn't last that long because he was already kind

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of old.

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But the knights would be very scared of the lion at first and Luther, I'm paraphrasing

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here because I can't remember the exact lion and I couldn't find it, but Luther would remark

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that the lion was the biggest monster of all of Caliban and that he scared him more than

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any monster had ever scared him before.

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When they shot him, they were like, whoops, we shot a child.

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Oh, he's scary though.

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Thankfully he just ate that bullet.

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Yeah, literally.

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So like I said, it's actually kind of like, this might tell some people, it's kind of

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like William and Russ's early life.

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Except he wasn't raised by wolves, he was just raised by himself, but just a feral animal

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out in the wild found by some bros.

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Caliban was cool because they had like STCs or power armor and stuff.

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I guess I shouldn't get too much into detail.

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I'm in the beginner section.

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Anywho, they brought the lion back and he would quickly shoot up in the ranks of the

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knightly order that he was part of.

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And already this would make Luther salty because he would watch the lion basically achieve

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everything that Luther had worked so hard to do in the span of like a few years that

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Luther had done his entire life because he's a prime market and he's always going to be

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better than you.

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But Luther would be the voice of the lion because the lion was kind of awkward and he's

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bad at understanding people and talking to people.

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Hence the Ryan Gosling aspect.

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So he's a Warhammer fan.

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Oh Lord, we just attacked our own fans.

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Christ.

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That was as much aimed at me as everyone else.

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He's literally me.

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Good saying.

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Good saying.

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Oh, thank God.

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Cause we're, I mean, let's be honest boys, Warhammer fans, we're not the most talkative

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people out there.

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No.

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When we say that, Eli's getting married.

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True.

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Yeah.

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It's demographic.

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The problem with that is I like to talk to people about Warhammer, but then they just,

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their eyes glaze over and then they don't want to hear anything about it anymore.

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Cause they're like, I don't, the thing I get all the time is I don't get it.

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And I'm like, well, it's like this, this, this, this, this.

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I'm like, I don't understand.

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And it's, it's not worth the time.

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It's hard to, oh sorry, go ahead, Eli.

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To be fair, the girl I'm getting married to, I told her about Warhammer on like our first

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hangout and one of our first hangouts, she saw me try to eat a hundred chicken nuggets

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and throw up.

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So, you know, there's, there's a litmus test.

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There's a litmus test.

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Oh my God.

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And then it was like, it must be love.

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Love.

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Nom nom nom nom nom chicken.

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I had to make sure, I had to make sure that she could, I don't know if she could stick

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with it.

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I'm just imagining just like you inhaling chicken and then just being like, have I ever

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mentioned Erebus?

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I like, I like the quote.

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It's the quote, something along the lines of, if you can't have me at my such and such,

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you can't have me at my worst.

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You can't have me at my worst.

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You can't have me at my best.

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Yeah, and it's just you scoffing chicken nuggets.

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Erebus is a, and then at the best, it's just you in your like suit at the wedding.

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This is some good, this is some good bro advice for the fellas out there.

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Tell your, don't, don't hide your hobbies from the girl you like because she's going

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to like you whether you have weird hobbies.

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Which, these are Warhammer fans.

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What are you talking about?

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What do you mean girl that likes them?

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What are we doing?

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There's not light to ourselves boys.

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Hey, all right.

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Anyways, we have a topic to talk about I suppose.

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Where was I?

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So he became basically the leader of the orders and he would start a 10 year long crusade

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against the monsters of Caliban and cleanse the forest.

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And he eventually become grand master of the orders, which Luther is like Loki hates this

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guy but also loves him because he is his best friend and adopted son.

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But he's also achieving Luther's dreams and like dashing all of his hopes.

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It's a weird one with him, but we'll go into that a bit later.

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He's an interesting character though.

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The Emperor comes to Caliban, Luther, sorry, Lion immediately bends the knee without complaint

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because he's a big loyal guy.

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Loyalty is its own reward.

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That's his quote.

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And the boys become space marines minus Luther because he's too old.

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So he gets the core pharaoh treatment and becomes basically a space marine, but not

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quite.

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So in the great crusade, Johnson would probably, I think a lot of the Primarchs agree that

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he was the best general amongst them and one of the best leaders.

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Horace was like the only contender with him, truly at least.

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And he was kind of the only other thought to be the war master.

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But then the Emperor chose Horace.

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I think it was like if Horace was the sweet dead center, exactly what the Emperor wanted,

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on the other side you'd have the Lion and on the other you'd have Sanguinus and that's

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kind of the spectrum.

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It's like, oh, Sanguinus is a bit softy and then the Lion is just, he's terrible with

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people and then you have Horace in the middle, you know?

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The perfect triumph for it.

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Yeah, I think Sanguinus was kind of like Lion's only friend of the Primarchs.

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He didn't really talk to anyone, he just kind of brooded in the corner and ran away from

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girls when they came to talk to him.

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Typical Aldous Brubber syndrome.

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Yeah.

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I suppose, I didn't even know that.

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I guess he was, he is the first Primarch, it's true.

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Oh yeah, he made the Dark Angels, he named them the Dark Angels after a myth from Caliban.

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There's a little thing there.

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Where was I?

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Where was I?

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Yeah, he reunited the Legion because I'm pretty sure they were spread out through the galaxy.

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He united the Hexagramaton, that thing, and he made them all work together.

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It's not as big nowadays but it was big for them 10,000 years ago.

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But he took a ton of victories in the Emperor's name.

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He was like the tactical genius of the Primarchs and a very good duelist as well.

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People get salty if you don't say that he's the best duelist, so he's one of the best

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duelists but it's not...

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Anyways.

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But yeah, he wasn't very happy when the Emperor chose Horus and this kind of sparked some

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pride in him.

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Whereas a lot of the victories he was taking, I think a lot of it was because he wanted

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to be Warmaster, so he was more of doing it to try to prove himself than he was doing

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it to make the Imperium better, if that makes sense.

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That might not be completely based in logic.

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I think it's like, of all the Primarchs, he was the only one who actually was like, I

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will take the mantle.

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Like Horus was a bit, I guess I'm the guy for the job but I don't...

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Sanguinus didn't really want to be...

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Lion was like, dress for the job you want.

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I'm wearing all this armor, look at my big sword, I am the Warmaster.

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I want to be the Warmaster, more than anyone.

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So anywho, the probably most important part of the crusade for him was the negotiations

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with the Sorushi people.

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They were allegedly going to become part of the Imperium but they were just trying to

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trick the Lion to assassinate him with a nuclear bomb on their ship.

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Uther seized the bomb and with Zahariel, I think is his name, the Librarian, and Uther

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for a little bit is like, you know what, maybe I'll just let it happen.

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And then he's like, you know what, maybe I won't let it happen, that's not so great,

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what am I thinking?

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And so they get rid of the bomb at the last moment and save the Lion.

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But Jonath is not pleased, he sends Uther back to Caliban to watch it over and train

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new recruits.

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So he kind of censures him because, you know, he basically almost let him die, so you can't

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really trust him that much anymore.

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So Uther's unhappy about that but it's not the complete breaking of their relationship

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yet.

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He also fights Fuliman Russ and starts a 10,000 year long rivalry from that.

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So good job, they have a little brawl.

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Lion wins, albeit by not overly fair means, but he does still win.

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Anyway, after the crusade, I guess we can go into the horse heresy.

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It's basically just Lion fighting the Nightlords for like eight years or whatever.

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And in the Thramas crusade, which is when the Nightlords go and fight the Dark Angels

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forever, he does duel the Nightlords, he does duel Conrad Kurrs multiple times.

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The first time he actually, I'd say he loses, because he has to be here, he loses and is

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saved by, what's his name, Corswain, the paladin who rams his sword through Conrad's back and

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then both forces have to take their Primarchs back because they're both mortally wounded.

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The imagery of that, by the way, is hilarious in the book.

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It's like a little toddler holding onto an adult's back.

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You know what it reminds me of?

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It reminds me of when you have two groups of people out on a night out and two of them

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get in a fight and their mates are just dragging them from the fight.

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And then they're just pulling them away, these smalls, especially with how tall they would

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be, just these short, by their standards face, just going, come on, dad, he's not worth it,

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he's not worth it.

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You literally have two dads fighting with their children trying to assist, but in a

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cool lore way, not just...

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Love that with Warhammer though, we're space marines, when it's just space marines you

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think, wow, there are these big imposing giants.

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And then when a Primarch comes along, it's like, these little guys, what?

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That doesn't make any sense.

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Little silly fellas.

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And Corswain holding on for dear life, just like, oh my god.

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They fight for a while more and then the lion decides, you know what, I'm just going to

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kill them and then destroys the corridor of the nightlords and mortally wounds Curse in

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this like gigachad move.

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But Curse is, well, Curse is healed, I guess, by Sevatar, kind of.

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And then they go back and Curse stows away on the lion's ship and just starts trolling

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for a while and just like killing random people and running around as the lion plays cat and

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mouse with them.

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Then they go to McCragg, the lion becomes Lord Protector of Imperium Secundus.

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And he finds Curse after Curse trolls some more on McCragg or just throughout all of

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Ultimaar, I think, or just McCragg.

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I don't remember.

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I haven't read the book.

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I'm not going to lie.

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And then he finds him, but he spares him because Curse, he doesn't want to mess with the future.

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He becomes his jailer.

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Because of this, the Dark Angels don't really go to Terra at all.

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They don't really fight.

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They get to join in in the big fight in the end.

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And they return to Caliban where Luthor is been up to no good, truly.

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And all of a sudden, a million billion Dark Angels are on the other side.

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And they just fire upon the Dark Angels the moment they get back to Caliban.

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And now the Dark Angels are fighting the Dark Angels.

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And who is traitor?

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I don't know.

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Are the Dark Angels traitors?

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I don't know.

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Kind of sketchy.

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I'm not a legendary traitor.

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50% of you is a traitor?

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Does that make you a traitor?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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That's where all the memes come from, I guess.

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But then Luthor mortally wounds the lion and gets captured and the fallen gets scattered

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throughout the warp and the lion goes to sleep for 10,000 years.

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And now he's awake.

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The end.

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Hell yeah.

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The end.

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Thanks everyone.

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Goodbye.

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Now we get Tywin Lannister in his green armour.

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Trudging all aggressively at us.

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If anyone here has seen Pride and Prejudice, by the way, this will be relevant, I swear.

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There's a moment where Mr Darcy walks across an open field and it's meant to be a moment

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where he's walking like...

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No, no, no, no, no, no, trust me, trust me.

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Hold on.

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Hold the thread, hold the thread, hold the thread.

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He's walking across a field towards whoever the P-Mod character is in the end.

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There's a bit where he's just walking like aggressively.

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And there's like a shot where I thought that's exactly the movement of what the lion's modeled

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right now.

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It's just him just like strolling and his hairline is just blowing back aggressively

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too.

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It's easy.

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Yeah.

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I have congestion, so I feel like I'm mumbling.

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So I apologize to the viewers.

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That's okay, man.

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Oh, good.

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Didn't understand all the way.

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I will say though that Judge on None has a very funny video of the watchers in the dark.

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The knife emoji ear emoji thing got me to say.

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He did what with a what?

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He did what with a what?

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He did what with a what?

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We love his channel.

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Anyways, off to Andy to enlighten us.

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Could I?

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Go ahead.

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I have something that I want to confirm before I make my stupid comment.

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The lion kind of fights instinctually, right?

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It's almost like he's reacting to blows by pure instinct.

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Like I'm asking, I've read that.

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I guess it's similar to how Paterobbo just intuitively knows how to design things.

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The lion intuitively knows how to kill things, I guess.

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It's something more innate within him, I think, than more.

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That's kind of like his Primarch ability.

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Like he fights at an instinctual level almost.

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It makes sense as well.

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If it's the one that all they follow from and he's the first one that all the starties

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come from, it's like, I want a good fighter.

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That's important.

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I want to see artwork of the lion going ultra instinct now.

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I might have something commissioned for the future for that.

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He goes to fight Anguaron and he gets wrecked because it's demon Anguaron.

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And then a violin just starts hammering away in the background.

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His hair goes white.

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Anything Jojo reference in there, please.

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If Gilliman beats Magnus and Mortarion and then the lion loses his Primarch fight, I

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won't believe it.

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To be fair, Gilliman had a lot of help.

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It is true.

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The Emperor himself.

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Gilliman died when he fought Mortarion.

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It's true.

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It's true.

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I'm just an insulted chaos player, let's be honest.

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Wait, that's my favorite moment in that Gilliman fight where someone points out, I always thought,

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why do people dislike the Gilliman Magnus refight and someone said, in the book it says,

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and then Gilliman yells a roar and then someone said, wait, aren't they in the vacuum of space?

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And others.

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Primarch lungs are stronger.

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He's been shot into space and survived.

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He could do it, I suppose.

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I'm pretty sure Logan Grimnart has beat Magnus, so he doesn't really have the best track record.

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Yeah.

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Harry is also the most OP character in all of lore, probably though, I think.

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Whoever wrote Logan Grimnart's lore just freaking loves that guy.

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Do you know, do you know, Harak as well in the 31st, I think it's the 31st millennium,

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when Magnus assaults the Fang and it's just this guy who's the current Great Wolf and

487
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,840
he gets killed, but he like, massively kills Magnus.

488
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Oh, I know this one, yes.

489
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,640
The authors who wrote Space Wolf lore just made it to make anti-Space Wolf people seethe

490
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,800
and be so angry.

491
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,800
It works.

492
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,160
But Colin loves Space Wolf, what are you talking about?

493
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,960
He's the most knowledgeable shifter.

494
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,160
He's going to fight.

495
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,160
I'm coming to Canada.

496
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,160
He's just going to fight.

497
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,160
He's going to fight.

498
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Oh, the lion, the lion, the lion.

499
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,400
Any other questions, comments, concerns before Andy takes it away?

500
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,400
I'm ready.

501
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,400
Let's do it.

502
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,400
I'm eager.

503
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,400
Lion.

504
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,400
Why are you lying?

505
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,400
Why are you always lying?

506
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,400
All right.

507
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,400
I'm sorry, Vine reference there.

508
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,400
2013.

509
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,400
Right.

510
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,400
We're cutting it short, guys.

511
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,400
We're not doing the expert section.

512
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,280
So let's start from the beginning then.

513
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:25,000
So Lionel Johnson, before we mention the 40K side of things, I'd just like to mention when

514
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,160
we did our first Primarchs video, Hal mentioned the origin of some of the characters from

515
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,400
the 40K universe.

516
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:38,320
And Lionel Johnson is based on the English poet known as Lionel Pijo Johnson.

517
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:46,680
And he was born in 1867 and in 1893, he published a poem called Dark Angel, wink, wink.

518
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,680
A little bit more about this guy.

519
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,480
He died of a cerebral hemorrhage when he was 35 at the Green Dragon Pub on Fleet Street

520
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,480
in London.

521
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,480
Oh.

522
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,920
And that's the origin of the Dark Angels and Lionel Johnson to an extent, at least the

523
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,960
the naming convention, which is like a little fun little fact.

524
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,960
I'm glad.

525
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,960
Okay, Colin.

526
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,960
Go ahead.

527
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Obviously, did not know that's how he passed away.

528
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,600
Geez.

529
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Yeah, he was he was not old.

530
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,940
And he knew Oscar Wilde.

531
00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:13,940
He was his friend.

532
00:27:13,940 --> 00:27:18,080
Then he wasn't because he was a Catholic and there was some kind of dispute.

533
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,680
But I thought at the end of the when I do all the lore, I might also read out the poem

534
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,360
Dark Angel just as a little like reference to the origins of the Lord of the First and

535
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,360
his naming.

536
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,140
I think that'd be quite cool because I've got it here anyway.

537
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:35,360
And I will have I will warn you now there are quotes for each of you as we go.

538
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:36,360
Let's do it.

539
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,360
All right.

540
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,440
So 40k lore wise, he grew up on the feudal death world of Caliban.

541
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,920
Now Caliban was teeming.

542
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,200
And I mean, absolutely rife with beasts.

543
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,600
And we're not talking about, you know, pandas.

544
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,600
We're not talking about kangaroos.

545
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:59,280
We're talking about 10 foot tall dog leopards, anything you could imagine, because they're

546
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,040
not just creatures that chaos spawned.

547
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:09,880
Baby creatures like imagine, imagine, let's say, what are they called from Ice Age, the

548
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,040
big cats, the saber tooth cat, like a saber tooth cat.

549
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,160
But it's also got like spikes jutting out of its spine and seven claws.

550
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,040
And that's kind of the average beast you might find on Caliban.

551
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,040
They're very bad.

552
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,680
Are you telling me Diego from Ice Age is on Caliban?

553
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,680
What a cameo.

554
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,400
Yo, there's the baby.

555
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:37,480
So when when the line was a baby, or at least very young, he was spirited to Caliban.

556
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,840
The humans of the world were like cyberpunk knights of the roundtable.

557
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,480
They had power armor, although it wasn't like space marine power wasn't sealed to

558
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,600
survive space.

559
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,800
They didn't have, as far as I'm aware, ships to leave the planet.

560
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880
They lived in, you know, castles and fought.

561
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,700
They lit places with candles rather than bulbs.

562
00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:01,560
They had pistols similar to bolters, but they couldn't figure out how to make a car.

563
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,560
So they used horses.

564
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,080
It's so cool.

565
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,680
It's a weird thing, but it kind of is very fun to play with the idea.

566
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Go ahead.

567
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:15,360
It's probably my favorite, like Primark population.

568
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,240
They're freaking cool.

569
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,240
Yeah, pretty cool.

570
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Because it's like that kind of it could only really work in 40k, maybe a handful of and

571
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,720
tries in that regard.

572
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,760
I thought there was a joke here, though, which is like how many nightly orders does it take

573
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,760
to put on a light?

574
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Change of light.

575
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,760
All of them.

576
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Lord.

577
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Well, these nights were known as the Order.

578
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,180
And there was also another band.

579
00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:43,000
The second largest band of Knights was called the Knights of Lupus.

580
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,600
And one day, band of Order Knights were, you know, trying to call the beast to defend their

581
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,600
little village.

582
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:56,040
And they come across this this this young man, I've seen art depictions where he's like a

583
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,040
teenager.

584
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
I've heard some people say he was like a toddler.

585
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:06,120
It's hard to say, but Lionel Johnson had already for a while in somehow killing the creatures

586
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,680
that stalk the forest because he was living in that like he literally crashed on the planet

587
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,400
and was like, right, gigantic monster, kill it with a rock or something.

588
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,040
I don't know when he's like two years old and he's about four feet tall.

589
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,480
And they find this this guy and they shoot him because they're scared.

590
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,440
Like like you mentioned earlier, Luther and the other Knights are petrified beyond belief

591
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,680
about this this guy more so than the creatures that, you know, eat the settlement people

592
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880
that they're used to.

593
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,040
And Luther looks into his eyes and goes, hang on, this is a guy.

594
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,340
This is this is a feral child.

595
00:30:39,340 --> 00:30:42,200
And Saul Luther was a well respected respected.

596
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,360
He was probably the most respected Knight in Caliban.

597
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,500
He was like the local legend.

598
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,160
Everyone knew Luther, everyone loved Luther.

599
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,040
And he said to himself, we're going to take this kid in because he's obviously got some

600
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,040
promise as a warrior.

601
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,240
If he's been able to survive out here, we'll take him under our wing and I will raise him

602
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,840
as his foster father.

603
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,920
Now as he took in the lion, he taught him speech.

604
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,920
He taught him to write.

605
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,520
He taught him how to use a sword.

606
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:16,680
And eventually the lion would grow very quickly into a extremely powerful warrior.

607
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:22,200
And Saul Luther was already a really capable fighter, but the lion was something else.

608
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Now what happened subsequently to this was he started to get a bit of recognition among

609
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,600
the settlements.

610
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,080
He drove out some of the beasts and eventually Luther would be would be he would he would

611
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,280
talk with the lion and the lion would say I'm I'm fed up of these these beasts.

612
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
How about we kill them all?

613
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,360
And if it went, oh, that's a that's a tall order.

614
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,600
We haven't thought about that hasn't come up before.

615
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Yeah, it's probably they haven't done it before because I think the idea of them fighting

616
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000
that they're just getting by.

617
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,320
But already with the lion in their ranks, they're like, oh, we're pushing them out.

618
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
We're starting to reclaim some of the forest just around our settlement.

619
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,680
Wasn't it also just a little bit because obviously there was more than one nightly order, but

620
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,360
obviously the order was like that's like the cool that the cool kids club and it was like

621
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,320
and they I think all the orders started to work together more than that was because the

622
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,160
lions are unifying figure.

623
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Yeah, yeah.

624
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,840
And eventually they start to they talk with some of the other orders of knights and the

625
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,440
lion goes, all right, Luther, I want to I want to enact a crusade.

626
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,040
I want to band all of us humans together.

627
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,880
We'll go out there on force and we will kill every beast in the forest there is.

628
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,740
Now the lion, as we've already mentioned, is not very good at oration.

629
00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:44,680
But Luther, great spokesman, great diplomat, very, very good wordsmith.

630
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,840
And so combined, Luther and the lion, they group all the nights together and say, here's

631
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,840
our plan.

632
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,840
We're going to kill the beast.

633
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,600
It takes him a few years.

634
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,460
But eventually the lion leading the knights of the order and with some aid from the Knights

635
00:32:58,460 --> 00:33:03,680
of Lupus, they kill every one of the beasts more or less.

636
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,000
However, and among them, they slay one of the only two Caliban lions on the planet are

637
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,600
killed by the lion.

638
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,200
And Eli mentioned him, Zahariel El-Zorayas.

639
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,200
He killed the other one.

640
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,800
So they had these two legendary creatures in the wild.

641
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,280
They killed both of them.

642
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:26,040
You know, RSPCA, World Wildlife WWE, they be shocked.

643
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,580
Also for people listening, if you're new to Warhammer, they're not actually lions.

644
00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:34,240
They are like the lions, the best term for it.

645
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,520
They are humongous, like beast of fang and claw.

646
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Like a lion would be a nice enemy to fight compared to this thing.

647
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Like manticores, right?

648
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,760
I think so.

649
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,760
Yes.

650
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,520
It's about the size of Sith from the Dark Souls game.

651
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,000
The wolf with the sword.

652
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Oh, good reference.

653
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000
There you go.

654
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000
God, I love me some Dark Souls.

655
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,760
Well, I mean, lion does give off some Artorias vibe, so it fits.

656
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,880
He's a valiant warrior fighting the Abyss.

657
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Just replace Abyss with Chaos.

658
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Plagiarism!

659
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Is he left handed though?

660
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,440
That's the big thing in Dark Souls.

661
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,760
The sword is on your left hand, which is weird because most of the stuff is right handed

662
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,760
in game.

663
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,800
But then again, his other arm is broken.

664
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,800
Well, yeah, he had a shield that's just also, yeah, his arm kind of got broke.

665
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,520
And I like that in Dark Souls, if you equip it in the left slot, it has a different weapon

666
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,520
set than the right.

667
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Oh yeah.

668
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,680
You can't do a special move and then if you put it in the left hand, you can do this like

669
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,000
jumping spinny attack.

670
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Little details.

671
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,760
Can you get the, you know, the broken one and the reforged one, wasn't it?

672
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,520
Like one of them had like part of the cross guard broken off and no one had like a fixed

673
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,520
version.

674
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,520
This is, this is a while back.

675
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,520
This is 2011.

676
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,000
This is a while back for us.

677
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,520
I think it made a re-recurrence in Dark Souls 2 as well as a different weapon name, but

678
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,520
yeah.

679
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,000
It did come back in 3 as well.

680
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000
Oh, nice.

681
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,440
I love me Dark Souls.

682
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Anyway, so yeah, Artorias, Artorias' tragic story behind us.

683
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:10,080
So then the lion with the Knights of the Order, they managed to slay every beast practically

684
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,080
on Caliban.

685
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:17,800
However, the Knights of Lupus, the next biggest order of Knights were trying to tame the beasts

686
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,320
and utilize them to kill the beast.

687
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,400
They were basically trying to harness the beast.

688
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Then the lion took one look at this and went, nah mate, if you're going to get rid of this

689
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200
corruption, you have to kill it at the source.

690
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,960
You can't manipulate it, which is very in keeping with what he would do in the future

691
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,680
by rejecting chaos and going, no, you can't, you can't have a little sip of it.

692
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,360
No, no, you have to, you have to abstain.

693
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,760
You have to be sober from the, from the call of chaos.

694
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,480
And eventually the Knights of Lupus would be wiped out by the lion and the order.

695
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,720
They would kill them to a man.

696
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:59,120
And shortly after some Astarte sent by the emperor would discover Caliban specifically

697
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,200
during 846.M30 the emperor would meet with a lion.

698
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,040
The lion would be installed as the leader of the first Legion, which he would dub the

699
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:12,680
dark angels named after a myth of Caliban legend, also referencing the poem.

700
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,960
And with that, I would like to go through our first quote of the episode.

701
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,400
Does anyone, does anyone want to flex their Malkador muscles?

702
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,080
I don't think I'm very good at Malkador, but I can give it a try.

703
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,080
Is that right boys?

704
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Should I give it a go?

705
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,080
Yeah, by all means.

706
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:37,040
I'll probably read it a little bit straight.

707
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:43,760
Of all the Primarchs, save perhaps Mortarion, Lionel Johnson stands apart.

708
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,880
Partially this is due, partially this is due to his taciturn nature.

709
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,320
A brooding silence hangs over him at all times.

710
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Yet there is something more, something buried beneath his noble exterior.

711
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,240
Perhaps this is a result of his upbringing, growing to maturity alone in the monster ridden

712
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:05,720
forests of Caliban.

713
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:10,520
Even at a council of war, the lion moves like an apex predator.

714
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:16,860
He is always watching, always planning, always hunting.

715
00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,520
He unnerves even his brothers.

716
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,880
Very nice.

717
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Damn Malkador.

718
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,160
He's a big fan.

719
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,720
He's very Orphorian as well.

720
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:34,120
He's very much the Merlin to the lions, well to the emperors I suppose, King Arthur to

721
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,120
an extent.

722
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,360
The wizened old man with the strange hood.

723
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Anyway, so continuing on from there, the lion would then take his knights of the order and

724
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,360
they would undergo the surgeries to become Astartes of the Legiones Astartes.

725
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,880
Dark angels had already accrued a reputation during the Great Crusade because like their

726
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,560
namesake would suggest as the first, they were the first legion to be put to culling

727
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120
the enemies of the Imperium across the stars.

728
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,420
They had incredibly powerful weapons from the Dark Age of Technology.

729
00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:13,040
They had developed the Hexagramaton which was six different, what would you call them,

730
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,640
organizations within the legion which specialized in different acts of war.

731
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,000
And at the time because there were no other legions for a time, it wouldn't be called

732
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,480
the first, they would be called the Angels of Death or the Six Hosts.

733
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,800
That's kind of cool because that's obviously, again for new people, the Angels of Death

734
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,520
is kind of the nickname for all Space Marines now isn't it?

735
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,520
It's like a kind of recurring theme.

736
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,720
Did it come from the Dark Angels then?

737
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:43,720
Yep.

738
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:50,400
They even had like, I'll see if I can find an image to send for this part of the episode,

739
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,880
but there was actually an image of what their banner used to look like and it's like a skeleton

740
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,800
with a cowl and everything.

741
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,360
Again because the Emperor was this monolithic figure, they were known as his Angels of Death

742
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,760
because they would descend from the heavens and they would kill you.

743
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,480
So yeah, that's where the, it also I suppose was easy for them, like oh we've already got

744
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,520
half the name in our new name, that's easy.

745
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,840
It won't take long to remember that.

746
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Did it come from the part where the Thunder Warriors, I don't know if I'm getting too

747
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,920
far ahead here, the Thunder Warriors got culled didn't they?

748
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,960
I think it might have been then when they were called Angels of Death.

749
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440
I might be totally wrong, this is probably a law crime.

750
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,960
They were involved, because again they were the only Legion to start with, they were the

751
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,160
ones who first started culling the Thunder Warriors alongside possibly Alpharius in their

752
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:46,440
midst according to his knowledge and the custodies and they were the ones that Ushatan, the Primarch

753
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,040
of the Thunder Warriors referred to as, they fight like they're constipated, which is one

754
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,760
of my favourite lines in 40k.

755
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,320
Because they fought like wolves didn't they?

756
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,600
Because they said the Thunder Warriors fought like bears, beers?

757
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,600
Bears.

758
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,000
The French bear.

759
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,040
So the Astartes, they were a little smaller but they would attack them in groups and they

760
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,040
would literally like wolves tearing down a bear.

761
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,240
That's really cool.

762
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:20,240
Eli's already mentioned that one of the first compliances of the Dark Angels with the Lion

763
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:24,000
at their helm would be the Soroshi people.

764
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,640
They came to the Imperium with open arms saying, yes let us join your flock, have you met our

765
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:36,080
gods and then the White Scars had already been trying to sort things out and they basically

766
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,160
threw their hands up and went to the Dark Angels like, look these guys are weird, we're

767
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,480
bouncing can you sort it out?

768
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,360
And the Lion went to see what was going on.

769
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Turns out they were worshipping the ruinous powers, they didn't know that at the time.

770
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,240
They snuck a nuke on board the Dark Angels flagship known as the Invincible Reason and

771
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,360
tried to blow everyone up.

772
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:02,680
And the thing was like Eli said before, Luthor at this time is now, he's gone from being

773
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,200
the big cheese of Caliban to like the soft brie.

774
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,200
He's still respected.

775
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,200
There you go.

776
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,200
It's tough.

777
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,640
He's still respected.

778
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:18,960
Everyone still likes him but he's now, he's been usurped in his renown by his adoptive

779
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,480
son which is weird because he started out as his father, now he's more like a brother

780
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,200
and he's also a subordinate.

781
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,640
So he's had this massive dynamic shift in his personality with how he treats himself

782
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,560
with the Lion and the Legion.

783
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Luthor's also got a bit of a inferiority complex with regards to how he became an Astartes

784
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,920
in quotes because like Eli mentioned, similar to Cor Phaeron, he was too old to become a

785
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,520
proper Astartes so they just did these surgeries on him to make him kind of like Iate Astartes,

786
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,280
like Astartes liked, you know it's you know.

787
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,280
Dire Astartes.

788
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,400
Yeah he's a bit shorter, he's not quite as strong, he's still a really powerful and capable

789
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:04,040
warrior but you know those two characters in particular, Luthor and Cor Phaeron, you

790
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,680
see the two dynamics where Cor Phaeron is treated like he doesn't deserve the position

791
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:14,400
of being first captain and he's just an old fool and Luthor it's more like oh he's like

792
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,200
oh we respect him, he's like our father figure but he's kind of, he's not as strong as the

793
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,920
rest of us but we respect him and that's quite an interesting dynamic in 40k that no other

794
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,040
characters really have for the most part.

795
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:32,080
There aren't many I can think of who've had that not quite an Astartes transition.

796
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,080
I imagine.

797
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,560
No R Jack Rockfist but that's the 41st millennium and he's built like a brick shithouse so it

798
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,600
doesn't count.

799
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:44,640
I imagine really like you know King Leonidas and the Spartans except you know at the hot

800
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,280
gates Hercules is there.

801
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,280
Yeah.

802
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,280
No one's going to pay attention to Leonidas because Hercules is right there, I imagine

803
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,280
he's like there with him on the lion.

804
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520
Like someone got a bit upstaged.

805
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,760
A little bit yeah.

806
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,240
Poor Luthor though, he would have been like a man of legend if the, of his time, if the

807
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,960
lion hadn't been there.

808
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,600
There is a passage in one of the books that says he would have been the single most important

809
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:16,200
person in Caliban's history if it wasn't for the lion so he permanently lived in the lion's

810
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:21,680
shadow at the peak of his prime which is a bit sad but then again bruh you got to like

811
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,520
travel the stars, you got some cool armour, chill out.

812
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,120
You got a nice goatee, why ruin things?

813
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Okay.

814
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,000
So they find this bomb aboard their ship and Luthor divers.

815
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,240
He goes and because he takes a while to figure out what he's going to do Zaharil eventually

816
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,840
he's with him he says bruh we need to kick this off the ship.

817
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,040
They kick it off the ship and it's close enough to damage the ship and cost some lives, do

818
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,080
some damage.

819
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,440
If they'd have just chucked it out straight away it would have been free and clear, no

820
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,200
damage, no problems and that's kind of why the lion is annoyed at Luthor because he's

821
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:02,520
like old man, you knew about the bomb, how come it took you so long to kick it out of

822
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,240
the, out of the, out of the, why did you hesitate?

823
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:08,880
Yeah why did you hesitate, like kicking it out the front door?

824
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,120
And so for his lapse of judgement Zaharil, Luthor and 200 Astartes of the Dark Angels

825
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,960
as punishment would be sent to be garrisoned on Caliban and oversee the recruitment of

826
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:25,160
new Astartes which is why there's so many fallen in the future because they were recruiting

827
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,200
them and Luthor is very good at running things.

828
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:34,600
He's like a mini-Gilman in that regard, he's got a good oration, good organisation, he's

829
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:42,320
a good leader, he's respected so he got loyalty down and that's why there's so many fallen.

830
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:49,240
Imagine if, like replace one of the, I don't know, some magical pretend 40k, replace like

831
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:53,720
one of the traitor Primarchs, like Fulgrim, no offence Eli, I know Fulgrim's cool, I like

832
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:58,920
him too, not, not very helpful towards the end of the heresy.

833
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,160
Imagine replace like Fulgrim with like Luthor as a Primarch, you'd be like wow they have

834
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,800
actually a lot more stuff going for him now, Luthor's actually awesome, it's just a shame

835
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,480
he wasn't born the son of god.

836
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,080
Imagine if the lion and Gilman swap places and the lion was raised by Connor and Luthor

837
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,080
raised Gilman.

838
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,400
I have an interesting, I want to ask Colin about this comparison because I don't know

839
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:29,040
if it's right but maybe Emperor Justinian and the commander Belisarius from history,

840
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,320
do you know what I'm talking about?

841
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Yeah like Justinian of the Byzantines?

842
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:42,880
Yeah because general Belisarius is kind of that, like he was the more like impressive

843
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:48,600
character even though Justinian was emperor and there's kind of a relation, I saw like

844
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,480
the sort of similarities there where even though like Justinian's technically like they

845
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,280
wouldn't, they have like a similar.

846
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,400
Oh yeah because Belisarius took Rome back for a bit didn't he?

847
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,240
Yeah he like defended, I mean he was all over the place to be honest, he had like a decorated

848
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:08,800
history and then Justinian's just sitting there in constant and over being like come

849
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,440
on poke the bear, like come on do stuff.

850
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,840
That might be a connection but I feel like that also might just be a coincidence in this

851
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:24,000
case, you're right 20 Primarchs, some of them are gonna come across as having this connection

852
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,760
but that is, if it is a coincidence that is a very interesting one.

853
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,120
I thought it was a cool comparison.

854
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,760
That is, no.

855
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,240
Bit of history there for you brothers.

856
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,000
Very neat, thank you.

857
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:43,160
Continuing on, so the lion then continued the great crusade leading the first legion

858
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:50,080
and over time Luthor got more and more resentful because all he ever heard was oh the lion's

859
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,280
done this cool campaign, he won, oh the emperor patted the lion on the head, oh look the lion,

860
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,060
the lion's so cool, that's all he ever heard while he was stuck on Caliban like twiddling

861
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:04,000
his thumbs going I want to be out there doing my own glories, I want to bring honour to

862
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,000
the legion.

863
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,920
I do have a question, the lion's obviously, this is the great crusade era, 200 years of

864
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:17,760
fighting, did the lion, because his personality is quite mysterious, obviously this is like

865
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,360
most of the stories are always told from Luthor's side, is the lion like quite prideful of his

866
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:29,000
victories because Horus was very much like oh my victories, it's hard to read the lion.

867
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:34,040
I think he saw himself as above everyone, he was on a whole other level.

868
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,280
So he was the big brother of the Primarchs, he was the one like I set the tone, I set

869
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,240
the pace, that's why he was so annoyed when the legion, he got given the legion, they

870
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:48,440
were scattered everywhere because he was supposed to be like the biggest, ballsiest legion and

871
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,360
now you're all over the place and he had to like group them together and go right boys,

872
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,700
let's start from the beginning again, let's do it properly and again his bid to become

873
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:02,740
war master shows his personality of he wants to be the one who, he doesn't want to be

874
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:08,200
emperor but he wants to be the one who gets things done and is like stoic, stalwart, defender

875
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:14,240
of humanity, the guy who goes out there and kills all the things that mean harm to humanity.

876
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:20,400
It's funny because just very briefly, the only parts I have read of the lion is there

877
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,660
was the book where, it's his Primarch book where he speaks to the emperor and even though

878
00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:31,760
he's not necessarily ambitious, his conversations with the emperor are really interesting, like

879
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:38,960
if you're new to Warhammer again, all the Primarchs are generally considered like facets

880
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:44,720
of the emperor, the lion when they talk, they actually don't speak much because generally

881
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:50,360
they're thinking the same thing and it's really eerie, they're considered in temperament,

882
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,440
the lion is closest, he doesn't really look like the emperor, apparently the Lord God

883
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,440
does but he has no hair because he's evil and bald.

884
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,680
He got that cultious alopecia.

885
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:08,720
The lion's definitely got that Niccolo Machiavelli style leadership of, you know, cruel when

886
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:12,520
I have to be and then he's very gentle.

887
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:20,480
He's most emperor-like but I don't really know what that really means to be honest.

888
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,240
I mean he's very good at war, of all the Primarchs he's one of the best at war, so good that

889
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:30,120
whenever he did joint campaigns he would usually flare up the egos of his brothers because

890
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,440
he's known, like the lion doesn't have a sense of humour, he is very serious, he doesn't

891
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:42,680
crack jokes, he hates any attacks on his pride, like for example we, Eli mentioned a little

892
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:50,440
while ago, on the planet of Dullan, Leman Ross and the lion joined their legions, the

893
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,040
space walls and the dark angels to bring the world into compliance.

894
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,000
Now the planetary governor of Dullan called Leman Ross a name of some sort, we don't know

895
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,280
exactly what it was, he just said oh look a smelly wolf or something and this really

896
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,680
annoyed Leman Ross and so he vowed to kill him himself.

897
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,480
So they stage this big siege, they get to the headquarters of this planetary governor,

898
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Leman Ross kicks in the doors only to find the lion has just cut his head off already

899
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:21,520
and Russ is really annoyed because he was like bruh I told that, bruh I told you I was

900
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,280
gonna, you stole, kill steal, kill steal, he did that call of duty thing.

901
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:33,920
He got the assist and so the two of them had a brawl in the planetary governor's like,

902
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:39,720
autress and it lasted an entire day of them just like hitting each other with their swords

903
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:43,800
then punching each other, blah blah blah and then eventually Leman Ross kind of goes

904
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,720
haha I'm gonna have a laughing fit because look how silly this is, here we are the sons

905
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:54,400
of the emperor and we've been reduced to having a punch up and then the lion goes oh is that,

906
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,520
are you taking the piss?

907
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:01,040
And he just decks him, while the lion's distracted he's just mocking him, he knocks him out and

908
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,120
then he just goes right, we're leaving straight away.

909
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:08,000
So when the lion, when the wolf king wakes up the dark angels have already gone, he's

910
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:14,080
like what, what is this and that's why whenever the dark angels and the space wolves meet

911
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:20,000
up they appoint a champion and they have an honor duel as a mark of respect to the one

912
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,840
done by their Primarchs all those years ago.

913
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,720
He's an honor bound warrior who punches his friends over his pride, he really is just

914
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:31,080
a saiyan isn't he?

915
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:37,880
Yeah, so like we mentioned he was a candidate for war master, he was one of the three obvious

916
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:43,880
picks but he didn't get the job because he has no charisma, he is not good with people

917
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,840
and when it comes to ruling the Imperium Horus was renowned not just for his ability as a

918
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,560
general with the most, like the most venerated legion but he was also good with people, whether

919
00:51:54,560 --> 00:52:02,280
it was Astartes, Primarchs or the lowliest serf, he was always good to people and so

920
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,120
that's why he didn't get the job.

921
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,840
And for the remainder of the great crusade leading up to the Horus obviously there's

922
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:14,720
not much about what he did but when the Horus heresy did kick off Horus knew he had to keep

923
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,840
the dark angels away as long as possible.

924
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,880
The dark angels and the ultramarines were by far the biggest threat to the Horus heresy

925
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:27,560
failing, so of all the priorities the war master had he had to stop the lion and the

926
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,920
dark angels getting anywhere near his rebellion.

927
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:37,720
What was the, wasn't it like the dark angels were, is he more afraid of Giliman Horus technically

928
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:39,280
because he has the largest legion?

929
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,880
He has the biggest empire yeah.

930
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,320
The dark angels got reduced didn't they because of the rangdan?

931
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,880
The rangdan xenocides yeah.

932
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:55,720
But also before the lion reunited with his legion they got a bit big headed and they

933
00:52:55,720 --> 00:53:00,440
took casualties and then they would like throw themselves into the fray out of pride and

934
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,160
that was kind of the big problem with the dark angels they were by and large the most

935
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,080
powerful legion right from the gate and then their pride just whittled them down until

936
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:14,680
the lion got in charge and went oi stop that it was as I say and kind of rallied them to

937
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,240
properly be a legion again.

938
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:23,400
Kind of like a knight's pride is like a slight has to be answered.

939
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,520
Kind of ironically like leaving us a bit there but that's probably where they wouldn't back

940
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:33,880
down like in war obviously there's you don't stay in a situation where you're losing or

941
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,880
you know sometimes you need to retreat whereas the dark angels are a bit more like yeah we

942
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,600
were just jumping to the meat grinder and be like we do not fail we will win no matter

943
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,600
the cost.

944
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,760
They do win but they cost a lot yeah.

945
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:52,240
And they had the best gear as well they had all the best toys and it got to their head.

946
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:58,800
So yeah during the Horus heresy the timeline states that the lion figured out what was

947
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,360
going on with the heresy just after Istvan III.

948
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,120
So Istvan III happens Horus culls all the loyalists within the ranks of the sons of

949
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Horus empress children world eaters and death guard and then the you know the news gets

950
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,520
out that Horus has betrayed the Imperium.

951
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:21,040
So the lion first goes to Diomatt and he goes to secure these Ordonartus weapons platforms

952
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,080
as three of them and these are really really really really big machines of war that could

953
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:30,320
turn the tide of a war and he goes we need these to stop the traitors right out of the

954
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560
gate let's get these off the board.

955
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:38,400
Unfortunately he's he's met with the Primarch of the Iron Warriors Perderabo and Perderabo

956
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,480
goes oh hey those betrayal figures crazy right.

957
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,720
I always knew you should have been war master.

958
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:48,760
Yeah he goes you know what you should have been look at this disgrace that Horus has

959
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,000
turned out to be I always said you should have been war master.

960
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,440
I've got an idea how about you give me the Ordonartus weapons I'll use them you know

961
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,820
you've got to go and face Horus I can put them to better use in the in the back lines

962
00:55:01,820 --> 00:55:03,800
you know don't worry I'll take care of it.

963
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,920
So the lion gives him the Ordonartus weapons because the the Lord of Iron promises to endorse

964
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,520
him as the war master when the Emperor inevitably wins and promotes a new Primarch to the rank

965
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:20,440
of war master because the lion believes if he naively believes oh the Emperor is going

966
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,760
to kill Horus and I'll be the new war master and that's all that's going through his mind

967
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,900
at the time.

968
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:30,080
So the Iron Warriors go to Istvan V with the Ordonartus weapons they don't use them there

969
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,400
but they keep hold of them while the Dark Angels you know muster at diamat and they

970
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:41,560
attempt to go to holy terror to reinforce the throne world until they are trapped I

971
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,440
believe by the ruin storm.

972
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:49,600
Now I've got another quote here and this is from the lion's own mouth Eli Colin which

973
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,760
of which of you would like to say this one.

974
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,080
I can take it unless Eli you're you're raring to go.

975
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,360
You can you can do it.

976
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,160
All right I'm hit me up.

977
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,680
I will teach them the fear the darkness in which they dwell and to tread the shadows

978
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,800
they believe their allies for there is no greater terror haunting the Stygian void than

979
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,480
the lion of Caliban.

980
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Not just the power of Magash come on this is so arrogant.

981
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,000
And then he helped Johnson all over the place.

982
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,880
He lioned all over my Johnson.

983
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,880
Oh that's even worse.

984
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,280
That's actually that's definitely worse.

985
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,280
Good night everybody.

986
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,280
John do see.

987
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,280
Oh stop it.

988
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,280
Nice to stop.

989
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:42,360
Okay before things devolve further so now we're getting on to the Framas Crusade era

990
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,920
which is basically the entire Dark Angels involvement of the Horus heresy for the most

991
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,800
part.

992
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,920
So Horus is now going okay.

993
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,280
Everyone knows I've turned traitor.

994
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,480
The lion is going to must he's mustered a diamond.

995
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,160
He's coming over will close will close off the galaxy when he's gotten through like this

996
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,280
point will trap you know the word bearers will trap ultra mar the ultramarines blood

997
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,640
angels dark angels everyone with the rune storm.

998
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,640
Cool.

999
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,040
They're going to get through eventually.

1000
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,640
I need to distract them.

1001
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,920
So in the wake of Istvan five dropsite massacre the war master goes curse do you mind do me

1002
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,080
a favor.

1003
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:26,880
Could you just go in mess with the dark angels and curse being a dick he just goes fine that

1004
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,880
sounds good.

1005
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,880
I like doing that.

1006
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,760
I'll go and troll the dark angels and that's all he does for three years.

1007
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,420
He just goes to the Framas Crusade the crime I six fisted the system and harasses the

1008
00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:41,240
dark angels.

1009
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,680
This happens for three years.

1010
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,340
It takes three years almost three years for the dark angels to finally you know get back

1011
00:57:47,340 --> 00:57:49,960
into the main part of the war effort.

1012
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,500
There's a point at the culmination of the night angels and night angels night laws and

1013
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:59,620
dark angels fighting where they they parlay and the two Primarchs meet each other to see

1014
00:57:59,620 --> 00:58:04,280
if they can just you know I love this moment include good.

1015
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,320
So both Primarchs meet each other with two of their like seconds.

1016
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:13,760
I believe curse has Sevatar and is it Shang.

1017
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,600
Shang is a yeah.

1018
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,240
Shang Shang his equity I think that query.

1019
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Yeah and course and course Wayne accompanies the lion which is his paladin is Seneschal

1020
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:30,320
and Allahos who I believe is the original first chapter master of the dark angels who's

1021
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,420
been there since the beginning.

1022
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:37,240
Long story short course Wayne says that Jago Sevatarians mum slept with pigs or something

1023
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,360
along those lines to try and rile him up.

1024
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Curse says yeah you're lying you're rubbish I can't even warm master and they have a big

1025
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:54,440
fight cause is one of the best fighters of all the Primarchs he's really good at scraps

1026
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,160
and like mentioned earlier he nearly kills the lion.

1027
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:06,560
Course Wayne after Allahos is slain by the other two nightlords course Wayne like impales

1028
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,420
through the spine he backstabs him with the entirety of his sword then gets swatted aside

1029
00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:17,000
like a fly and then eventually the nightlords dark angels en masse rush to their defense

1030
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,760
and they pull them from the battle.

1031
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,200
There's a really cool moment in it isn't there where they're both speaking because the only

1032
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,040
reason they're meeting is because Curse says the only reason I'm allowing this to happen

1033
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:37,400
is because I chose this meeting and the lion even says I don't know if I'm quoting it correctly

1034
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,280
but I think he says I once thought of you as my closest brother no one else grew up

1035
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:48,240
alone but there's something because they both grew up like literally not seeing humans or

1036
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,400
Curse saw humans but he kind of devoured them rather than spoke to them.

1037
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,080
They're the most primal Primarchs shall we say.

1038
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,800
And they're just primal Primarchs.

1039
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:03,120
They just grew up in the wilderness alone and then the lion says you have to forgive

1040
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,960
me and Curse goes what and he just literally stabs him for this dishonorable blow.

1041
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,200
Yeah yeah he starts off with like again he's honorable but he's not beyond like I need

1042
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,120
to get this done and that's kind of one of his things.

1043
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:20,360
He also doesn't understand he still doesn't actually know why the heresy has happened

1044
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:26,280
he doesn't yeah but the actual chaos part is not really revealed he just thinks it's

1045
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,960
yeah like civil war he doesn't realize there's another element to it yet the lion.

1046
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,560
He thinks it's just like humans versus humans we're gonna defraud the Emperor.

1047
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,560
He doesn't realize that Horus has been corrupted or anything he says oh he's just turned he's

1048
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,640
a traitor yuck.

1049
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:45,040
Just despite being a man who likes to keep secrets and doesn't share much even if he

1050
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,760
wanted to.

1051
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:53,520
Yeah so the the Nightlords retreat and they do this a lot the Nightlords retreat dark

1052
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,960
angels then busy themselves on the planet of Parditas which is during 0 0 8 point M

1053
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,000
31 there's a conflict going on between the Iron Hands and the Death Guard led by Calus

1054
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,000
Typhon.

1055
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,240
Now again lion doesn't know about chaos he doesn't know why they're fighting he doesn't

1056
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:15,900
know what's going on but he he he claims he takes away an ancient device from the Death

1057
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:22,920
Guard Death Guard called the Tuchulcha engine which is we mentioned briefly before but it's

1058
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,760
like a it's like a weird child astropath trifecta of beings.

1059
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,840
Dark Angel of technology sort of yeah ancient really weird device tech.

1060
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,040
It's a MacGuffin essentially.

1061
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:41,120
Yeah yeah but it allows the Dark Angels to create temporal rifts for their ships to transport

1062
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,000
themselves through space and time.

1063
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:51,080
So they they enhance their walk jumping capabilities and they manage to travel through the warp

1064
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,280
but as soon as they get through the warp they get their first instance of dealing with the

1065
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,640
immaterium and demons swarm the Dark Angels fleet.

1066
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,240
Now they're already a little bit battered from the Framas crusade opening stages and

1067
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,960
now they've got demons everywhere and at this point the Council of Nikea has decreed

1068
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,760
no librarians there are naughty and you know they're trying to shoot the demons it's

1069
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,120
not doing much they're stabbing them with swords which is working it better.

1070
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,040
The lion goes we could we could use some librarians this seems like their kind of thing.

1071
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,760
No weird wibbly wobbly space dust thingies.

1072
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,720
We need we need our boys in the hoods and so he goes let's just let's just this once

1073
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:33,520
let's just make the librarians a thing again and Chaplain Nemiel who is an OG from the

1074
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:41,720
old night order days alongside his cousin Zahariel says I'm sorry there dad.

1075
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:47,780
Jimmy Space said no no to psychers in the in the legion of Astartes as heresy.

1076
01:02:47,780 --> 01:02:53,400
So the lion back hands him and like upon striking him in the helmet like decapitates him just

1077
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:59,000
goes like oh and then he just like severs his head he goes no my decision never talk

1078
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,320
back to daddy and he just decapitates him with like his fist.

1079
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,760
The first disloyal Dark Angel.

1080
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,160
Oh yeah but it but again like I know it's one of the main contentious issues people

1081
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,160
have with the lion who don't like him they say he he he was just saying like no we shouldn't

1082
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,480
he doesn't he doesn't try to shoot the lion he just goes no the Emperor said this was

1083
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,280
a bad buff oh Nemiel's dead.

1084
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,920
Okay and he also is in like the first Dark Angels book it's from the perspective of Zahariel

1085
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,320
and Nemiel as they're like growing up on Taliban and then they become Astartes so it's quite

1086
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,080
an interesting thing that he's a really interesting character and then he gets bumped off in the

1087
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:44,220
next Dark Angels but oh well there goes Nemiel and within the war the lion is confronted

1088
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:50,340
by a greater demon known as Kairos Fateweaver who attempts to to turn the lion to the traitor

1089
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:58,720
cause of chaos to which the lion he responds by impaling the the Fateweaver with his sword

1090
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:04,840
and Kairos Fateweaver is a singed demon he's all about he knows the future etc and I believe

1091
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:10,040
the the lion quips while he's impaled the demon he says did you foresee that coming

1092
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,480
and then pulls the sword and it's like so sassy.

1093
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:21,280
He also can't corrupt him can he can he because there's nothing there was something about

1094
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,920
they couldn't offer him anything like chaos couldn't offer him anything because the only

1095
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,000
thing the lion wanted was to serve the Emperor.

1096
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,400
Yeah because I know Dawn is in his nature he's physically incorruptible like there's

1097
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,560
just nothing you can do to to switch Dawn it's like one of his character traits but

1098
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,680
the lion there's just nothing in it for him like he could possibly potentially he could

1099
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:44,000
be changed but like there's no reason for him to like what am I gonna do like betray

1100
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,120
the Emperor the guy who I've done all this work for who I want to appoint me as the new

1101
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:56,360
War Master doesn't make sense so he's like no sword in the gut impale you in the heart

1102
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,200
if you're having a conversation you disagree with you can always impale your foe with your

1103
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,880
sword don't take that advice that's not.

1104
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,000
You heard it here first on War Cards.

1105
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:12,280
If you go to the office and someone's giving you lip bring your sword bring your tip.

1106
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:22,560
Moving on quickly from Howe's horrendous comments they they managed to travel to Sagualza which

1107
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:27,920
is also I believe inside the Framass sector and once again the Night Lords like a Saturday

1108
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:34,040
Night you know cartoon villain pop up to to combat the Dark Angels and like I mentioned

1109
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:40,560
earlier they lose a quarter of their fleet in the engagement so big big L for the for

1110
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:47,240
the Night Lords as a last desperate means of like resolving the war in their favor a

1111
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:54,960
attempt to board the invincible reason so Kers grabs his Atra Mentar the first company

1112
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,160
Diego Sepertarians by his side and they just go let's go kill the lion on his bridge that's

1113
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:05,120
that's the best thing we can do I was horribly wrong they apart from Kers everyone who boarded

1114
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:10,360
the vengeful spirit gets either killed or captured including Jago Sepertarian and the

1115
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:17,240
Night Lords fleet retreats before they get even more battered and Kers just just starts

1116
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,040
roaming the vengeful spirit and harassing the Dark Angels while they're in the mess

1117
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:25,200
hall etc it's quite funny when you think you know that like cartoon with the the puppets

1118
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,880
with something he's on the walls he's got them walls that's that's Kers at this point

1119
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:38,040
in the story an actual nightmare and after that because the Ruin Storm is still preventing

1120
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:43,240
the Dark Angels from getting anywhere fast they they hear that Rabutei Gilman Primarch

1121
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:48,760
of the ultramarines is making a contingent empire because the the loyalists on this side

1122
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,840
of space they don't realize what's going on outside the Ruin Storm they're not getting

1123
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:56,760
any communications and they're starting to worry maybe the Emperor's dead like lion's

1124
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,640
been fighting for three years against the Night Lords they've been stuck in this place

1125
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,120
where they can't do anything they're like three years is a long time we already know

1126
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:09,720
there were four traitor legions they might have gotten to terror and killed dad so Gilman

1127
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,920
says I know we'll make a second empire just as a contingency called Imperium Secundus

1128
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:19,440
and the blood angels are there the Dark Angels there the ultramarines are there with their

1129
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:28,680
Primarchs Sanguinus becomes the Emperor-elect, Gilman becomes the Lord Commander and the

1130
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:35,360
lion becomes Lord Protector so you've kind of got the a triumvirate the King the administrator

1131
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:41,840
and the executioner almost and at this point Kers looks at ultramarines goes oh this is

1132
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,640
ripe for a little bit of murder and he escapes the ventral spirit so as soon as the Dark

1133
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,560
Angels meet Gilman it's like oh by the way we've accidentally unleashed Kers upon your

1134
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,200
home world sorry about that which he kept secret because the lion doesn't tell anybody

1135
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,040
anything yeah he doesn't doesn't tell him until the bodies start piling up like this

1136
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:05,440
looks a lot like something Kers would do and lion's like oh Gilman was pissed he was very

1137
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,480
cross he was so he was not happy with the lion they don't get on to be honest which

1138
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:14,440
will be interesting yeah in the future oh that's why the new the new reveal of him

1139
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,920
retiring is gonna be so interesting because they already they already had a fracturous

1140
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,640
relationship um they don't just like each other they're just very they have different

1141
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:27,000
methods and uh very that's where they can be different they can conflict there isn't

1142
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,200
the quote when they meet up it's like Gilman's like uh have you come to censor me for what

1143
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:37,640
i've done like leave him yeah he's instantly on the defensive yeah or for for doing something

1144
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,840
there he's like did you think i've turned traitor in the lines like oh Gilman you've

1145
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:46,480
done something much worse yeah he he's instantly like oh the lion's come to tell me off i'm

1146
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:49,920
trying to do something good and the lion's like big brother is coming over to give me

1147
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:57,080
a spank you know um sometimes the oldest you need to beat the shit out of your younger

1148
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:03,440
siblings all right all right my family so i disagree wholeheartedly with that oh god

1149
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:09,880
this is our youngest child i'm the oldest this is the youngest child we call him Vic

1150
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:21,560
short for victim oh no um anyway so with with with curse absolutely causing catastrophic

1151
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:26,000
death and destruction across mccragge lion is tasked with right it's your your problem

1152
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:32,480
your lord protector sort it out so he goes and tries to apprehend him several times as

1153
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:38,120
messes up uh alexis pollux and the uh the the the pharaoh's project to an extent on

1154
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:44,480
mccragge he tries to kill gilman's mom he does all sorts of stuff um long story short

1155
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:52,400
eventually uh the lion manages to capture curse he finally gets to like in chains and

1156
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:58,880
go right set you to trial uh he takes him before sanguineous and uh gilman and an assemblage

1157
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:05,060
of people in a court uh curse starts telling gilman oh did you know that the lion bombarded

1158
01:10:05,060 --> 01:10:09,200
your own citizens to try and flush me out and stuff and gilman's like what and they

1159
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:15,120
come to blows almost uh gilman takes the lion sword from uh lion althonsen and breaks it

1160
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:22,720
across his knee um and with that action says right imperium secundus is over get out and

1161
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:29,240
before the lion can actually depart from ultramar he he has uh curse in uh he he leaves curse

1162
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,920
with sanguineous to be executed and he's like i don't know there's something bugging me

1163
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,880
and he realizes that curse before he's being executed kept going no this isn't how i'm

1164
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:42,880
supposed to die i'm supposed to be killed by the emperor's assassin and the lion goes

1165
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:48,280
well if it's the emperor's assassin the the emperor must be alive oh and then he goes

1166
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,360
to like stop sanguineous and gilman from killing curses like wait wait wait wait he can see

1167
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,800
into the future you can see into the future you've told me that you're going to die but

1168
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,040
that at the hands of horus you've told me that the emperor's assassin tries to kill

1169
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,040
you we've got to try and get to terror dad's still alive and then the three of them like

1170
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,160
a like a weird road trip movie assemble their legions and prepare to try and breach the

1171
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:17,920
ruin storm now before we go any further uh eli i have a quote for you this uh this encapsulates

1172
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:26,280
the lion's uh the lion's interactions with uh rebute gilman are you ready i am indeed

1173
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:36,400
sir here you go oh yeah insult me again brother and theoretically i will punch you in your

1174
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,480
practical face

1175
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:51,600
that's amazing that's funny i like that as much as i like gilman that's better you know

1176
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:56,680
i think that's the second time gilman's been like just completely clowned on like verbally

1177
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:03,440
by i think lorgar was like have you lost your temper during calp and gilman says or like

1178
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:08,040
got him like a fish and lorga just goes you have lost your temper yeah it's interesting

1179
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,320
as well because when they uh when they meet on mccrag the gilman actually says to the

1180
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:21,560
lion like when they're forming imperium secundus he says i need to stop thinking about the

1181
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:26,560
uh the symbol the lion because he says he admits like all of them are a little bit intimidated

1182
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,000
by him and his legend because the lion is definitely the oh i thought that's like the

1183
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,280
older brother who goes to college and then he's like come back a different person it's

1184
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,600
like you know me like you kind of go he comes back when the house is on fire and goes what's

1185
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:44,160
been going on since i've been gone so uh it's funny that we're all intimidated by him and

1186
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,440
then he just says i'm gonna punch you in your practical face it's like oh that's that's

1187
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:55,560
definitely not intimidating now i know you're human and uh that's one of my favorite quotes

1188
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,760
um and with that yeah and also the dark angels um and the ultramarines and the blood angels

1189
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,480
with that book it's it's interesting seeing how they interact because they don't let the

1190
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:08,320
blood angels get on all right with the the ultramarines there's a few space wars they're

1191
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,880
like oh they're annoying but they're here and there's a couple of white scars and then

1192
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:17,120
the dark angels turn up and they're like shifty guys i don't like them um anyway so the free

1193
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:22,080
prime arcs and their legions they go to darvin which is where horus was first corrupted and

1194
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:27,200
they manage to find answers with they they have like curse chained uh and they kind of

1195
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,720
like all four of them journey to like the temple where horus was first corrupted by

1196
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:36,000
chaos and they go oh what's going on they trigger the the the the planet or the it's

1197
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,760
the moon of darvin the moon to do to destroy itself after they visit and there's loads

1198
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:44,400
of demons and everything's going wrong and sanguineous knows i've got to get to terror

1199
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:50,440
that's where i'm fated to die but i've got to try and kill horus um with uh the aid of

1200
01:13:50,440 --> 01:13:56,880
gilliam and the lion they managed to to make a very brief gap in the ruin storm for the

1201
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,440
blood angels fleet to pass through they managed to get sanguineous through the like great

1202
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:06,160
tanguinius is going to make it to holy terror much faster than we are acubags everyone we're

1203
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:12,480
going to terror now the ultramarines fighting horus is terrifying enough the ultramarines

1204
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:18,080
with the dark angels is the two least damaged legions come into to clap their traitor war

1205
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:25,680
effort and um if they'd have not been prevented from getting to uh to terror by the ruin storm

1206
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:31,600
or slowed down by it it would have easily just dominated the traitors um but by the

1207
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,120
time the dark angels and line there are a few dark angels fighting on the seat of terribly

1208
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:39,520
like coarse wane i think they were like an advanced party but when the lion brings his

1209
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:45,760
full might to holy terror it's too late the um the emperor has already been interred upon

1210
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:52,560
the golden throne everything is dreadful the war master is dead i guess is dead zanguineous

1211
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:57,600
is dead yeah um is dread late oh and the lion's thinking oh there goes my job application i'm

1212
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:04,160
never going to be war master now um this is the most pressing concern i have pretty much

1213
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:10,640
my job security is unclear i think so he doesn't he roam the halls of terror like just screaming

1214
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:17,200
in rage he's very upset about it um because he fails again because again think about like imagine

1215
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:24,080
again like a job imagine if you gave everything to a job like let's say 50 i gave 50 years to my job

1216
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,680
and then all of a sudden it just went bankrupt and it's like no job security it's over and you're

1217
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:39,440
like no what the hell my retirement he's been 20 years going for a job and then the headquarters

1218
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:47,920
gets glassed by the covenant that's probably how um the inhabitants of reach felt like i've just

1219
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:53,120
done a startup wait what's that in the sky oh i'm just joining the marines i'm so excited slip

1220
01:15:53,120 --> 01:16:00,160
space rupture detector just that non-stop for like 10 minutes just like slips case you slip slip slip

1221
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:07,680
and just ship ship ship ship ship oh no yeah um so anyway the sulky lion uh he goes oh i've had

1222
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,680
enough of this i need to clear my head i'm gonna go back to caliban i'm gonna think about what's

1223
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:18,000
happened i need i need i need i need a moccaccino and i need to just sit in my study on caliban

1224
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:26,080
and figure out what to do i need a gap here and the lion goes back to caliban the the entirety

1225
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,160
of the horus heresy for the most part luther's been like doing some things here and there like

1226
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:36,960
he he hides the death guard from coarse wane's fleet when the when the the seneschal of the lion

1227
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:42,080
is trying to hunt down callus typhon's fleet which he he sneakily goes oh we'll make an alliance with

1228
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:48,480
the smelly fly man that's okay before he's too smelly and he's been doing little things here

1229
01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:52,560
and there but the main thing he's been doing is fortifying caliban so as soon as the lion gets

1230
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:58,240
back they just gun them out of the sky so the lion's already not having a good time and he comes back

1231
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:06,160
to his home world only to as soon as he appears be fired upon and he goes what is this and so the lion

1232
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:11,920
takes his death god death wing he takes the raven wing he takes every wing of every feather of every

1233
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:19,040
wing down to caliban to see what's going on and stop them from shooting him and the lion finds luther

1234
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,240
within the fortress monastery of aldoruk which is the fortress monastery of caliban and he is changed

1235
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:33,440
he's bitter he's he's taller in stature and he's emanating power because deep within i believe the

1236
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:38,560
vaults of caliban's fortress monastery he's found a book of chaos he's been having a quick bit of

1237
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:43,840
bedtime reading every now and then and he has been chosen by chaos to be one of their champions

1238
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:52,640
and surprisingly in the ensuing duel the lion gets defeated by luther he gets bested by his

1239
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:59,280
his former foster father but before luther can bring himself to kill the lion he he has a moment

1240
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:04,960
of realization he goes what was the point what am i doing he's my son i'm an idiot and he he stays

1241
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:11,040
his hand and the the the everyone's favorite little um 40k jowers the watch is in the dark

1242
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:17,520
a they they they they reveal themselves to luther and they're like well this is a bit of a pickle

1243
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:25,120
and he goes yeah you're telling me and they take the lion and they they hide him deep deep within

1244
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:30,560
the fortress monastery and they put him in a deep slumber now one thing that's been confirmed with

1245
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:35,120
the reveal of the lion coming back he wasn't put in stasis like gilliam and he was put in a stasis

1246
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:40,960
coffin he was basically like frozen kind of like austin powers but better looking or hans solo or

1247
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:47,040
hans solo and carbonite a lion was put in a slumber which is not the same thing so he's been gradually

1248
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:52,960
aging and that's why he looks so old that's why he's an tywin lannister that's why he is charles

1249
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:58,080
dance um i like it though i think it looks cool though yeah it's good i like it i really like the

1250
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:04,160
design he looks i hate i hate his design and like on the cover of ruinstorm where he's got like

1251
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,560
like a weird like shaven head thing going on he looks a bit pudgy like what is this

1252
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:17,280
where's his long flowing locks that's that's rubbish um and anyway um so yeah for luther is um is he

1253
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:22,880
now goes i'm gonna reject chaos i don't want any of that chaos stuff anymore he races 95 thesis

1254
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,960
yes the nails are to kill them in store

1255
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:35,280
and yeah like chaos are not happy about luther going um returned to send all my chaos powers

1256
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:41,120
and so they they have a hissy fit and they go right warp storm it is and they send a warp storm

1257
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:49,200
to destroy caliban uh caliban is destroyed and yet alder rook manages to survive and deep within

1258
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:55,440
alder rook uh luther is imprisoned the lion is kept in secret by the watches in the dark slumbering

1259
01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:01,440
and the dark angels manage to build a vessel out of the corpse the husk of caliban known as the rock

1260
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:06,640
which is one of the biggest vessels in 40k it rivals the phalanx which is the imperial fist's

1261
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:12,160
big ship from the dark age of technology it's huge it's kind of ugly but you know it's big it's a big

1262
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:19,440
ship um craft world for humans it's like a weird like like imperium space hulk almost it's weird

1263
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:26,640
i guess space hulk is a better word yeah well either way um so luther is now um very much a

1264
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:33,120
traitor in the eyes of the dark angels so for a 10 millennia they they torture him um it's not for

1265
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:40,240
like a full 10 000 they kind of put him in like a a weird time prison where for him it feels like a

1266
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:48,000
week and like if you if you read or listen to his uh book luther um there's like several supreme

1267
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,160
grand masters of the dark angels like check in with him and he keeps going like oh there's another

1268
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,960
one must have died there's a new one now and they keep asking him questions and interrogating him

1269
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,760
and for what feels like a week for him has been a thousand years and one of them comes down and

1270
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:07,920
says right so why did you betray the lion that's not a very that's not a very sane thing to do is

1271
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:13,200
it mate what are you thinking and um until eventually azrael was like all right i'm the new guy um

1272
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:21,680
not really sure what to think about you our records are not very well kept and eventually um

1273
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:29,760
a fallen angel uh army invade the rock and they managed to break luther free so he's now out of

1274
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:39,280
jail he's somewhere at large in the galaxy and very recently very recently a lion has awoken

1275
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:46,000
from his very long 10 000 years number and he is not happy um he is not armed with the lion sword

1276
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:51,040
but he has a new one and he's got the emperor's shield and he now stalks the galaxy hunting the

1277
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:58,880
forces of chaos he is already being revered among little backwater worlds as the cowled giant or

1278
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:04,880
the unforgiving knight and from there we'll have to wait and see what happens with the lion

1279
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:12,720
any predictions fellas i have a theory that he's not gonna properly return but more be like a

1280
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:18,160
wandering uh kind of in it there's a there's a thing about they've already mentioned where

1281
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:25,920
his presence is like like creepy like wooded thorn and vines like sprout from where he is

1282
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:32,160
so i reckon he's become somewhat more it like you know the botches in the dark they're not

1283
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:38,400
really warp creatures there's something about that and he's a little bit more athurian legend

1284
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:44,320
so he's so he's a what so he's a wood elf now basically reminds me a lot of fenris

1285
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:51,360
he's a homeworld has its own weird like magical stuff so they're making him worse

1286
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:58,080
well one thing i was wondering um we know about the um the great rift the sycatrix maledictum

1287
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:04,320
is it going to be lion on one side and rebute on the other i'm not exactly sure where

1288
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:11,040
a split is between caliban i kind of hope they don't do that because i like that they put dante

1289
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:15,760
who is i mean he took the primaris upgrade but he is by all accounts just a regular space marine

1290
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,000
i kind of hope they don't just give it to the lion because otherwise it's like oh cool so

1291
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:26,800
so the space so he just like he just smacks dante goes i'm in charge now just because just

1292
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:31,680
because primaris by their nature just kind of overshadow everyone else which like you know

1293
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:37,840
luther we talked about that so i kind of hope that the lion if he's not exactly like you said how

1294
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:42,800
he's he's much more like a mobile response unit where he just goes around dealing with problems

1295
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,680
dispatching the lion task force yeah rather than like yeah i'm in charge now everyone

1296
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:53,680
i just thought before he's like the dog the bounty hunter of 40k it even looks like in a little bit

1297
01:23:54,480 --> 01:24:02,480
he's just roaming the galaxy like i'm taking you to justice i have one last thing to wrap up on

1298
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:09,040
colin who wins the lion or the green knight from what i'm a fantasy the lion the lion

1299
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,480
uh i mean i don't know i do like giles lebron is the only one that i like

1300
01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:21,440
like gui dipitone i'm not the least uh he's the least protoning of all the protonians

1301
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:25,440
yeah and and as i've said helps he's dead and the only good protoning is a dead one

1302
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:34,240
wow uh there were i did have a few things i'd like to end off on if everyone is okay with

1303
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:40,640
that go for it go for it fair enough one i would just like to say i love his many uh the last like

1304
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:47,360
few years i feel like gw's had a bit of a problem with 40k and that the minis are a tad over designed

1305
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:53,280
like space brains have a habit of being more purity seal and highlights than actual armor

1306
01:24:54,000 --> 01:25:00,320
uh but the lion is not your purity seals yeah yeah but the lion's armor is you know it has stuff on

1307
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:07,920
it he's a primarch but it's very like not barren but it's not like a nightmare or yeah it's very

1308
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:13,360
clean it's very pristine it's very like spartan and there's very nice things like there's

1309
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,440
incorporation of a bit of the fallen color pattern there's a bit of the caliban one

1310
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:21,600
there's the there's the swords there's the cowl there's the helmet there's all these things to

1311
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:29,280
make there's a little bit of flair but it's very subtle um which i like as well yeah uh the other

1312
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:35,040
one the second thing is uh i kind of i don't know if it will happen but i hope like gilman the lion

1313
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:40,880
don't have a fight like what i think my ideal hope would be like they meet and the lion's ready for

1314
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:46,560
gilman's gonna be gilman but gilman just doesn't have it in him anymore because i think that'd be

1315
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:52,160
a really good humanizing moment for gilman because he's so worn down by that how he's been running

1316
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,720
by himself for a couple hundred years now i do that 10th edition trailer where he's just like

1317
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:03,840
yeah yeah victory and it'd be a good way to you know kind of bring the lion up to speed in a way

1318
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:10,720
of like oh my god gilman is has always done everything like why i don't always like it

1319
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:15,200
but he's always put 110 percent in like his own thing keeping things going one way or another

1320
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:22,960
gilman's back and he's just like there there yeah and gilman in front of him gilman's just like i'm

1321
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:29,840
for dying and uh and then the last thing to end off on is something i've been holding in for about

1322
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:36,160
an hour now uh could could it be said that in caliban as a child in the jungle the mighty

1323
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:45,040
jungle the lion sleeps no oh yeah oh man that's a good place to end it to be fair because we'll have

1324
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:50,960
to smack our head against the wall um i was going to ask uh would you guys mind if i read out the

1325
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:58,560
poem the dark angel yeah go for it go for it the nice little way to round it off i'll also say as

1326
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:05,600
well uh next week boys we're this is properly next week will be farse enclave so please check

1327
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:10,080
that out also like and subscribe because we need that uh because we need to eat

1328
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:17,440
other than that uh thank you all for listening and we'll end it with a nice bit of poetry from our

1329
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:26,400
our boy andy andy take it away so this is the dark angel by a lionel johnson dark angel with

1330
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:35,120
thine aching lust to rid the world of penitence a licious angel who still dost my soul such subtile

1331
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:43,360
violence because of thee no thought no thing abides for me undesecrate dark angel ever on

1332
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:52,000
the wing who never reaches me too late when music sounds then changes thou it's silvery to a sultry

1333
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:59,920
fire or will thine envious heart allow delight tortured by desire through thee the gracious

1334
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:06,640
muses turn to furies oh mine enemy and all the things of beauty burn with flames of evil ecstasy

1335
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:13,440
because of thee the land of dreams becoming a gathering place of fears until tormented

1336
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:20,800
slumber seems on vehemence of useless tears when sunlight glows upon the flowers or ripples down

1337
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:28,560
the dancing sea thou with thy troop of passionate powers allegorist bewilderest me within the breath

1338
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:35,680
of autumn woods within the winter silences thy venomous spirit stirs and broods oh master of

1339
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:43,840
impieties the arger of red flame is thine and thine the steely soul of ice a poisonous the fair

1340
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:53,200
design of nature with unfair device apples of ashes golden bright waters of bitterness how sweet

1341
01:28:53,200 --> 01:29:00,800
oh banquet of a foul delight prepared by thee dark paraclete thou art the whisper in the gloom

1342
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:08,080
the hinting tone the haunting laugh thou art the adorner of my tomb the minstrel of mine epitaph

1343
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:16,080
i fight thee in the holy name yet what thou dost is what god seath temper should i escape thy flame

1344
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:22,720
i wilt have helped my soul from death the second death that never dies that cannot die when time is

1345
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:29,840
dead live death wherein the lost soul cries eternally uncomforted dark angel with thine

1346
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:37,200
aching lust of two defeats of two despairs less dread a change of drifting dust and thine eternity

1347
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:48,480
of cares do what thou wilt thou shall not so dark angel triumph over me lonely until the lone i go

1348
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:58,720
divine to the divinity there we go that was the dark angel the lion returns boys very cool the

1349
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:05,280
lion returns that's very dark angel-y i can see where they got it from and argue it's the

1350
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:12,800
epitome of dark angel-y secrets and lies lions actually probably he's very different than

1351
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:19,040
the 40k dark angels come to think of it the 40k dark angels are very edgy and cool i don't think

1352
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:27,040
the lion's that edgy compared to them but is he cool he is cool rule of cool always wins exactly

1353
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:34,480
though uh thank you so much boys uh i think we definitely uh we now know you're not lying why

1354
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:40,480
the i don't do the vine reference sorry yeah okay uh thank you so much for listening uh people hope

1355
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:46,160
you enjoyed obviously the lion returns it's a big moment for warhammer and next week we're going to

1356
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:53,280
hit you up with some uh farcite enclaves a bit of xenos love you know xeno xeno yeah yeah uh make

1357
01:30:53,280 --> 01:31:05,040
sure to like and subscribe and we'll catch you all next time peace everyone