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Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Fantasy Fireside where myself and Colin will

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be discussing various elements of Warhammer Fantasy. We do have a reason why we particularly

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chose this subject in particular. In the last episode, our first episode, we did a quick

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recce of the entire world and we talked about the various factions and places in the world,

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but we forgot to mention the vampire counts and we had several comments saying, excuse

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me, where is the stuff about the vampire counts? So as an apology for that, we've decided that

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our second episode will be about the vampire counts as a sort of, you know, as a way to

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say sorry and hopefully this will be a fun discussion because I know you and Hal in particular,

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Colin, have spoken occasionally about the vampire counts and I've all been like, oh,

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you seem to be quite into it. So hopefully it'll be a worthwhile subject.

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Yeah, hopefully. And like you said, you summed it up well, I need to cross this out of our

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fans book of grudges, this immense sin. I'm assuming what just happened was I was just,

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I'm so used to just breezing through them in total war that I didn't even think about

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them. It's like, oh, it's just another Imperial province. Don't need to worry about it.

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District Bud is fine. They're basically humans. Like, no, no, no, we can't have that law crime.

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Yeah, pretty much. They're just pale people. Oh, but here we're gonna, we're gonna fix

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that. Now to preface, yes, to preface for everyone, apparently a hard word for me to

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say, it's mostly going to be about kind of the history of how the vampire counts in Sylvania

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came to be and Sylvania itself, because there's a lot of different vampires in Warhammer.

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Andy, do you know anything about the game Vampire the Masquerade or any of that?

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I know a little bit. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen snarky reviews by YouTubers who say it's

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really good and also a bit silly. So that's my, the extent of my knowledge.

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Yeah, it's, I've done a little bit of reading into the tabletop game itself, but honestly,

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my true knowledge is not far beyond that either. But the vampires in Warhammer, I'm not going

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to get into the matter of who ripped off who, because I don't know. But it's very similar

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kind of deal. There's different bloodlines, they all do different sorts of things. And

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if we were going to cover all of them, this video would probably triple in length and

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be even more droning on than it is already going to be.

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Well, without droning on too much. So do you know all the main factions that we could mention

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other than Sylvania, just so we can give like a very, like a teaser biscuit of like here,

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this is the various ones, but we're talking about Sylvania in particular, just so we don't

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leave people in the lurch with curiosity about what the other ones are, if they want to research

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on their own.

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Sure. So we have the bloodlines of them are, and the first one is going to be the one we're

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going to be talking about most, the Von Karsteins. They're very much the Warhammerified traditional,

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you know, Dracula, they want to suck your blood. They even all talk in the old ye olde

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English.

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They live in Castlevania.

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Oh yeah. Thou Darist is something if you play Total War, Manfred will very frequently say

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to you interacting with them. They talk like that. There's the blood dragons who are just

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knights who use their vampirism to become the ultimate warrior.

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And they have nothing to do with Far Cry 3 DLC.

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They do not. There are no robot T-rex's which is definitely unfortunate because God that

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DLC was great.

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It's so good. All the neon.

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Oh man, now I want to go play blood dragons so I know what I'm doing after we're done

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here.

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I wonder if I have to do that. The next is the Lamiens who are very stealthy. The Von

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Karsteins, most of the other vampires are quite overt about it. They're big fans of

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raising massive armies of the undead and trying to burn the empire down. Lamiens are much

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more stealthy. They're mostly women. They have spies across the world, at least where

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they can conceivably fit in. I don't believe there are any scaven vampires. Maybe one or

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two, but none that are notable if such a thing is out there. But the Lamiens are generally

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yeah they're a lot more stealthy. They're the seductive kind of nature of vampires.

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Although when you said Lommy it just reminds me of a game of Thrones with the hound going

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what the F's are Lommy? That's a Lommy. He made me a baked direwolf bread. It's great.

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They're not like that at all.

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They might bake bread. It's probably going to have poison in it, but you know it counts.

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There's the necrarchs who are vampire wizards and there's the stragoi who are vampire hulks

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basically.

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Incredible hulks, not Hulk Hogan's.

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No, not Hulk Hogan's. Incredible hulks. They are horrible, monstrous. Most of them are

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barely intelligent. They can gain intelligence eventually if they're either around long enough

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or eat the right thing. It absorbs its blood and it makes them smarter. But for the most

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part barely intelligent mad beasts are astrogoi. And I'm sure at some point we'll talk about

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the rest of them on this channel, but today is Sylvania and Von Karstein focused. And

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with that being said, it's time to go back in time several thousand years before Sylvania

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Because the vampires all go back to someone who by this point you might have a bit of

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familiarity with, Nagash.

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Yeah, he uh, essentially what happened was Neferada, first vampire, found his notes and

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she created vampirism based on what she was studying from what he had come up with. So

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you can blame him for all the wrong in the world that the vampires are going to cause

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because he really is just the worst ever.

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Before we get into it too much, like are vampires kind of a neutral faction or a bad faction

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or a good faction? Like what's their kind of alignment?

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They're definitely bad. The closest to good are probably the Lamians again and that's

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not because they're necessarily good. It's because...

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the Lamians are like. The rest of them are much more overt. I've just raised 10,000 zombies

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from this graveyard. I'm going to come take you over now.

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I'll talk, that being said, a little bit more about vampirism later on. What it does to

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a person because it'll be relevant later on. But mostly they're definitely evil. Like usually

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when chaos is the main threat, it's the vampires doing something.

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So Neferada, vampirism is a thing now. One of the vampires she then created was either

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her husband or was just some noble who created the lie that he was her husband because it

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makes himself look more legit. And this guy, either way, he wasn't service. He was helping

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the early vampires on for a while. And then he saw things were going to go real bad. So

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he dipped. He got out of Nehekara, the ancient land of the Tomb Kings where Negash is from

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and where all the fun times were going on as he was just about, Negash was about to

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kill everyone in there. He saw the writing on the wall and dipped. He went to Cathay

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apparently for a little while.

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Cathay, ooh, the elusive Cathay.

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Going back to Warhammer China for a bit. And he helped advise them on how to handle the

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chaos marauders that tried to invade that place every five minutes. And then they found

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it he was a vampire and it was time for him to get out of Dodge. So he did. And after

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an indeterminate amount of time, he flees to the Old World and changes his name to Vlad

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Von Karstein. The progenitor of, you probably guessed it, the Von Karstein bloodline. So

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change scene, let's go forward a few thousand years. 1797 and the Imperial Calendar. There's

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a nobleman of the Empire province of Sylvania named Otto and he is about to die.

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Oh, that's not good.

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Well, he's kind of a jerk.

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Oh, so yeah, okay, that's fine.

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Sylvania nobles are generally not great at doing anything but being corrupt and useless.

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And he's no exception. He's just the one in charge of the province. So he's a bit more

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notable for that. He has a daughter named Isabella and his brother, the nobleman's brother,

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wants to marry his daughter. So, you know, we've got some good old classic Habsburg politicking

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going on here in order to become the new ruler of Sylvania. His, you know, Isabella's father

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Otto, the guy in his deathbed, obviously did not want this because if nothing else, he

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wasn't a fan of the family tree that's a Christmas wreath. So he tried to marry her off, Isabella,

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to anyone. Problem was the only guy he thought was worthy of it killed himself to avoid the

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marriage and no one else wanted anything to do with it.

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What did he do that for? That's pretty drastic.

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He didn't want to be in a forced marriage. So clearly there was only one way out.

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Kind of sad.

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Kind of sad. A little sad. Fear not because one dark and stormy night Vlad appears and

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offers his hand at marriage. Otto is pretty desperate at this point and agrees and then

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he dies.

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Vlad celebrates this marriage by listening to Isabella's request and rips her uncle's

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heart out of his chest and then tosses him off Castle Drakenhof's battlements. The, like

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you were saying, Castle Hotel Transylvania. This is the main big old vampire castle.

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So it's like the idea that he just like falls off the ramparts and then someone below is

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like, what was that about? And then it just takes a while for everything to click into

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like he didn't, I guess there was no repercussion for him chucking a guy over the ramparts.

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Not particularly. There were some nobles who did, you know, object to this random guy showing

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up. Why is he married? Why does he get to be in charge now?

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He's been here his day and he's already like murdered someone.

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Yeah. That being said, anyone who disagreed either was won over by Vlad's charisma because

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as I'll talk about, he's actually a pretty cool guy for a vampire or they were just unpersoned.

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They just disappeared and were probably eaten at that. So yeah, Vlad's now in charge.

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And married to Isabella. And funny enough, Warhammer does not have much in the way of

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love stories. Understandably, it's a tabletop war game. But Vlad and Isabella actually came

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to love each other, which I just find really cute. Initially, he just wanted, you know,

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to marry her for powers. Like, well, it's time to start climbing back up the social

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ladder. My homeland is currently nothing but mummies. I think I'll chill out here for a

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bit. Bit of a mummies boy. But yeah, they did actually come to generally love each other.

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And when she found out he was a vampire, she begged him to turn her into one as well because

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she wanted to be with him forever. And he refused at first because he did not want her

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to have to go through that to become an undead like him. And then she was dying of illness

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and he was like, oh shit, I can't live without her because they'd fallen so deeply in love.

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And he made her a vampire. Here's a question. Would you, if you ever found a vampire and

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they were like, I can turn you into a vampire, would you take up the offer or would you refuse?

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Is it like, are we, is it a Warhammer vampire? I'm thinking like what we do in the shadows,

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vampires, where it's a bit of a lark and you get to live forever. You can only drink blood

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or you'll throw up. But like you get to have a good time. You know, there's just some things

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that you can't go out in daylight and yeah, it's a, it's a bit of, you know, you don't

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like werewolves. I gotta be honest. I'd probably flip a coin because I, I don't know. I quite

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like going out with friends and doing stuff, but you know, as long as I make sure to do

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it at night. Yeah. But I don't know. Maybe if it was a Warhammer vampire, it'd be more

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inclined because the vampire weaknesses in Warhammer are one of the gotchigan Felix books.

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One of them was actually talking about it. Like this person was asking a vampire who

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had recently been turned and I'm not going to name any names to avoid spoilers. Okay.

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She was like, so what, what, what about all these weaknesses? How did this work? What's,

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what's going on? And he's like, well, you know, for some vampires you, you even look

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at the sun, you explode. Other of them, it's just mildly inconvenient. Uh, some of them

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can't go past rushing water. Others freely can. Water? They can't go past water. That

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seems really tame. That's a thing. Rushing vampires can't cross flowing water. Uh, but

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at least in Warhammer, some of them can cause the vampiric, the vampiric curses seem to

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just randomly work or not work on certain vampires. Uh, like some of them, if they even,

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like if they, if you flash a symbol of Sigmar at them, they just melt. Other of them will

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just laugh at you and kill you. So wait, so Sig, is this uniquely a Sigmar thing or any

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divine being? It's like they can smite the vampires cause like Sigmar, he's got that,

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that Norse mythology influence on my, so he, he melts vampires. I thought there'd be like,

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there'd be like a more pious. Any, any divine being can be pretty good against them. Uh,

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but Nagash fought Sigmar and lost and he was not impressed with the vampire's help. So

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one of his additional curses he gave to them, which, oh, that's another aside, a lot of

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their weaknesses and curses they have, yeah, Nagash gave it to them for, because he was

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annoyed with them. Uh, and weakness to Sigmar's power specifically was one of the ones he

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gave them. So that wasn't even Sigmar's doing, that was Nagash doing it on his behalf. It

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was, yeah, Nagash basically gifting them a weakness to Sigmar because he is just the

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biggest dickhead in Warhammer. Sigmar was on his cloud with Warhammer like, don't blame

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me, I didn't do anything and Nagash is just there like, on his throne of skulls or whatever

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it is. I know people say Avadon can be like a Saturday morning cartoon villain, but Nagash

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is just straight up his. Yeah. That's why I love him, because he's just an irritable

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piece of shit. Yeah. His big hat. Oh, I love him. Let's, uh, to get back to the counts,

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we now have, uh, Vlad and Isabella, the power couple. Now I said I'd talk a little bit about

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what vampirism does to someone. So it is important to note that in this setting, at least it

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doesn't add anything or change like your personality. What it does is it exemplifies what's already

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there. So if you're a, you know, you're an honorable knight, uh, riding the combat, you're

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going to turn into the biggest like war mongering, just crusader, uh, who will refuse to fight

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anyone if they do not fit the exact criteria for honorable combat. Like it exemplifies what's

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already there. So it's kind of like the Captain America effect where it's like he was picked

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because he was really good boy. Yeah. He became a really good boy, like best boy. Yeah. And

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theoretically if some, you know, some like, you know, decently charitable person became

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a vampire, they would turn into like the ultimate mother, Teresa. Okay. It's just that the people

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who become vampires are generally people seeking, you know, power hungry assholes or are turned

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into vampires by other vampires because they think they'd be good for their schemes. Yeah.

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It's a very gatekeeping community. Like we're only going to adopt really nasty people. Yeah.

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So there are a couple of stories about, uh, decent vampires. One of them, if you remember

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that Imperial vampire lady with the ridiculously long name from the Empire quiz, that was,

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there's her, uh, once again in the Godric and Felix books, there's a vampire character

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who's actually pretty chill, uh, and naturally, uh, slept with Felix because Felix is just

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puts out like no one's business. Oh dear. It doesn't just turn you into a jerk, but

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it's just usually the people who are vampires are jerks to begin with. Yeah. Comes to the

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territory. Yeah. And I bring all this up because Vlad as, you know, originally a fairly noble

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and the Hacker and ruler, uh, you know, even though he took up a Dracula accent at some

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point was, you know, a decent guy and Sylvania, meanwhile, has just always been one of the

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last places you want to live in the Empire. Uh, it's dark magic has always been abundant

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there. Uh, warpstone meteors crashing into the place. It doesn't help because hell rock

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is not what you want raining down, but in Sylvania it does. So before we go any further,

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so you say Sylvania is in the Empire. Yes, it is officially, it was an independent province

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and I'll get to it's modern times later. It is at least on paper and Imperial province.

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Right. So it's in that kind of Germanic from our map reference. It's in that kind of space

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in the kind of, yeah, if, uh, if you'd like to based off the real world, because the Warhammer

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fantasy map is like a screwed up version of earth. Yeah. Uh, go to Germany and then go

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to Romania and that's roughly where Sylvania is located. Well, that kind of checks out.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. It's, it's just Transylvania, but they took the

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Transylvania. Oh, not a, not the cleverest naming for this one. Uh, but I mean it fits

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because that's where the vampires are around. So, yeah, exactly. Oh, but, uh, yeah, it's

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beyond even like all of the evil stuff. It's always been there. It's towards the edge of

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the vampire or pardon me, towards the edge of the empire for you start getting mountains

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where the dwarfs are. Uh, it's always been somewhat underpopulated and everyone there

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is both incredibly superstitious and uneducated. So it's just not seen as a worthwhile province

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even when it was independent and somewhat under imperial control. Also granted, I don't

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know, it's kind of hard to blame them for the superstition when you bury grandma and

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there's a pretty good odds she's going to come back and try to eat you. Could not say,

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you know, I wouldn't be superstitious in those circumstances too. Kind of a feeding ground,

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so to speak, of superstition. Yeah. Uh, but you know, for the rest of the empire who don't

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have to put up with that, they're like, you know, they're just a bunch of stupid dumb

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people. Yeah, yeah. Obstitious idiots. Ha ha ha. Look at my gun go boom. Yeah. Yeah.

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Uh, but under Vlad and Isabella's rule, it actually got a little bit better. Uh, it helps

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that the, no, uh, again, Vlad was actually a somewhat decent ruler. Uh, he had a little

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bit of an anger problem and that if you made him angry, he was going to paint the wall

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with your blood. Oh. Uh, but Isabella would calm him down. Uh, she was the only person

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who could in fact. And when he wasn't having these fits of rage, it was, things got better.

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Not by much, because again, it's ruled by a vampire and filled with dark magic, but

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better enough that the rest of the Imperial nobles and officials didn't really look into

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how the different leaders of Sylvania looked pretty much identical over 200 years, a couple

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hundred years because of the same people. Um, uh, you know, they would change their

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name so he wasn't always. He just occasionally wear a wig. I, yeah. I was slightly like,

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I can just imagine one cast I'm putting on a big bushy mustache, like attack on one.

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Yeah. Yes. I'm completely different person now. My name is Bobby. I come from the Empire.

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Do not ever go with me. Bobby. Yeah. He'd wear a wig and change his name to Vlad. I

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cut down trees. It's fine. Don't worry. It's fine. I'm not a vampire. I'm just a silly

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guy. Yeah. And you know, the taxes and everything also arrived on time, so no one bothered to

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do anything about it or looking at the matter at all. Meanwhile, Vlad and Isabella got to

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turning many of the nobles into vampires, which also funnily enough helped things become

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better because as vampires, they had to serve Vlad and Isabella who were at least as far

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as vampires go, somewhat decent people. So they kind of beholden with the vampirism,

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are they like chains to them? Yeah. Uh, they're in the, you're kind of bound to the person

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who creates you a vampire or makes you one in Warhammer. Okay. Uh, it's kinda, sometimes

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it's a little flip floppy and how strong this compulsion is. Sometimes it's kind of like

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a little mental link where your master's like, Hey, you should do this. And then usually

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cause your master's a hundred times stronger than you, you do it. Sometimes it's more of

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an outright compulsion. Like you physically feel the need to do what they want. Yeah.

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He's like, I've invented a new form of cryptocurrency. You're like, ah, sounds amazing. I can't wait

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to hear what it's called. Okay. Yes. Vlad von Karstein. I will invest in your shit coin.

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Exactly. Yeah. Vlad coin for the win. So yeah. And they even started their own little weird

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quote unquote family of vampires, uh, with Conrad von Karstein, who is absolutely insane

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and Manfred von comes or all right. Manfred von Karstein. Uh, also noun as you can also,

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uh, I'd like to give them some nicknames. As you probably know, I was about to get to,

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uh, we have Manlet von Karstein, Manlet von Komsdain. I was going to say that was the

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one that you slipped into briefly. I was like, Oh, he doesn't sound like a nice person at

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this rate. Okay. Uh, bald, Fred von bald Stein, the balding and the guy who single single

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handedly caused the world to end. I'm not a fan of Manfred. So the bold people are bad

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trope carries over very strongly into Warhammer fantasy then. Yeah. It, uh, it is a trope

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quite prevalent in games workshop writings apparently. Uh, but you know, they're not,

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I mean, you know, they're all evil, at least Conrad and Manfred are, but you know, for

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now they're in charge of Sylvania. Things are going decently. And then some lady found

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out who they were because she remembers stories of her grandma saying, uh, when I was little,

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I remember when the, the nice nobleman lady came, you know, came to power and the, the

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nobleman lady, when her grandma was a kid, it looked an awful lot like Isabella. And

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then she did some research. She found out Vlad's real name was Vlad, same guy from a

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couple hundred years ago. And the secret was out. Oh no. Even the dumbest Sylvania and

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peasant knows what's going on now. Oh no. Uh, the empire was, would have done something

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about it, except it was also around this time. Vlad quite dislike decided, or he decided

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he quite liked the idea of being the emperor himself. Oh, okay. Uh, so it's time for the

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vampire wars to start. Now in warhammer, most vampires, one, even the weakest quote unquote

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vampire can rip a man in half with minimal effort. Yeah. Two, they're all wizards. Uh,

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they're all good at vampire blood magic and dark magic and all that stuff. Okay. So Vlad's

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army was walking into a graveyard. A lot of those in Sylvania, raising all of the corpses

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and he just marched out. And the funny thing about, uh, wars is they make a lot of corpses.

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So whenever the empire fought Vlad, he just resurrect all the corpses from both sides.

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And then his army got bigger and this kind of just snowballed across the empire. So George

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R. R. Martin ripped off the vampire accounts for the game of throne series. Uh, I'll say,

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I'll say yes. Cause I have not seen anything past like season six of episode one of game

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of thrones. Yeah. Uh, but I'll say yes. Uh, cause I like warhammer more than game of thrones.

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Uh, so that's going on and sometimes they'd kill Vlad. Uh, it didn't work well. Cause

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one, you can resurrect vampires in this setting. Uh, most for most of the time, you know, you

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gotta do some specific steps and stuff to do it. I was going to say it must be a ball.

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Like if you're trying to like, it's not just like, oh, we just press a button. Like there

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must be some skill involved. Yeah. I've liked to be too overpowered. Yeah. For most people,

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it's not just press a button. Uh, but for Vlad, he had a magic ring that whenever he

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died, it just brought him back to life. Okay. That's pretty cool. Nagash gave it to him

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and was also going to use it to control him. Except Vlad being a pretty decent wizard broke

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the compulsion curse or whatever it was that Nagash would have used. Okay. So he just has

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life hacks now. He just has infinite Mario one up mushrooms. He's like, cheers Skelly

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dude. I'll have that. You idiot. Thanks for that. See you later Bozo. Bye. So every time

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they tried, uh, Vlad just would go no and come back. And he got to the Imperial capital

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of Altdorf when a thief managed to steal his ring, uh, with some help from Manfred because

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Manfred is a treacherous little weasel. Uh huh. I've never met anyone called Manfred.

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We're just saying, I'm glad that name is not around anymore because it was a bit of a weird

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name. It doesn't just, it just sounds evil. Doesn't it? It makes me think of Manlet, which

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makes me think of like inferiority complex, which makes me think, Oh, bad person. Manlet

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von Kumpstein. Exactly. He's, he's got the name for a reason. He's the worst. Uh, so

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as Vlad gets to Altdorf, no longer has his magic ring. He dies in the battle as someone

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tackles him onto a wooden stake. Both of them die, but good God is, was that man a absolute

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mad unit, just mad lad. Uh, and the thing about vampires or undead in warhammer is they're

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all animated by magic. Now this is okay when the leaders around, you know, like the vampire,

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the powerful wizard, because on top of them being, you know, animating a massive army

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of the undead, they're also super powerful. So you have an untiring undead army to just

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keep getting thrown and rebuilt and resurrected at you. Okay. The problem with that is when

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you kill the guy in charge, the army starts falling apart because they're all held up

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by magic. And if you kill the guy, giving them the magic, controlling them with it.

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Yeah. Yeah. They kind of, they kind of run out of magic. Right. So Vlad dies, uh, and

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the siege begins to end as the army begins to crumble of the undead. Uh, Isabella was

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also there. Isabella Juliet's herself, uh, cause she doesn't want to live without Vlad.

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Uh, kind of pretty sad, uh, love story mostly ends there. Right. But on the bright side,

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uh, vampires are gone. Uh, and then, and then Madford decides he'd quite like to try doing

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it. So, you know, a little while goes by, Manford starts ransacking the empire. Uh,

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doesn't work again. Manford gets pushed back to this place called the hell fun and is murdered

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though they never find his corpse. They, uh, they killed them, but they can't find where

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the corpse went. So three, uh, three guesses as to how well they really murdered him in

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the end. And that pretty much brings up to what Sylvania is nowadays. Uh, it's just filled

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with, it's just filled with vampires and the undead and necromancers, not a great place

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to live. Uh, it's filled with all those vampires, the von Karstein's maid. So they're of that

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bloodline and every now and then they just like to stir the pot and try and take over

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the empire and just whatever.

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No, even, even in their like weakened state, are they still the most prominent vampire

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faction or are they kind of fallen from grace so much that they're not as powerful as the

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other ones?

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As far as at least the empire is concerned, yes, because the Lamian are again, they're

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the vampire Illuminati. So they all do things from the shadows. Yeah. And a lot, and a lot

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of the other ones aren't really predisposed towards the things the von Karstein's try

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to do. Right. Like the Strigoi are for the most part, mindless beasts. Uh, so, you know,

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a Strigoi showing up in your town is a big problem, but it's not the same kind of problem

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as some. It's manageable. Yeah. It's, it's a, if you throw enough nights at that, it's

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going to go away. It's not an undead genius wizard marching across your, your empire.

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And the blood knights really just care about combat. Uh, if they drink the blood of a dragon,

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it cures their thirst for blood. So blood of a dragon. That's pretty hard. Yeah. Uh,

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not many of them do it. Dark souls flashbacks right now. Just like a vampire going up with

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like a sword. Like, I'm just going to hack into shins for half an hour. It'll be fine.

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Yeah. And so not many of them do it. And even then, because again, what I said about vampire

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vampirism, amplifying your traits, they, uh, they're warriors. They concern themselves

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with combat as like just for combat sake, more so than to conquer a lot of the time.

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Yeah. So they seek out tough opponents and stuff. So they're in a way almost not worth

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trying to deal with for the empire because a lot of the time, well, strong combats, the

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vampires are going to fight chaos for a while. And that's just two birds with one stone as

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far as they care. Hmm. Fair enough. And the necrarchs, necrarchs are their wizards. So

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they sit in their tower for a while, do evil experiments. It's the, the von karstens are

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still the most prominent, even after all this, uh, never again, quite as successful, but

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they're still the, at least as far as the empire is concerned and they're the top vampire

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dogs. Hey, uh, but yeah, they do, uh, they do lose prominence for a while in the lore

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because they keep getting put down. So modern Sylvania, now that we're up to here, uh, again,

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it sucks to live in. Uh, it's technically not its own province anymore. It's a part

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of the empire province of sterland, but no one wants to touch the damn place because

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ever since, you know, Vlad and all the vampires did their shenanigans, uh, it's just filled

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with so many vampires and necromancers and undead, even when they're that, even when

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they're not actively stirring the pot, it's just not worth it. I mean, to be honest, if

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you were a worker bee in the empire, you probably smells, you don't want to be like, I'm going

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to build a, like a house and it smells of rotten meat. Every day that sounds horrible.

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I, well, yeah, I'm dead. Yuck. No, thanks. Plus every horror trope you can imagine is

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in full effect there. Like there's ghosts, uh, werewolves are actually not too frequent

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because they're not too much werewolf and warhammer lore. And believe it or not, I think

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some of the werewolves, once again, I turned to Godric and Felix are actually followers

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of one of the Imperial gods. So they kind of keep it on the down low that they're werewolves.

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Uh, so I take it back. Almost every horror trope is in effect there, but you know, there's

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banshees, there's ghosts, there's the undead, there's spooky swamps with monsters in them.

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And do the undead all kind of like clump together as friends? Like, oh, you're a zombie, you're

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a banshee, I'm a vampire. We get along or we just, we just tolerate each other.

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Usually the vampires are the top dogs because they control, they have the magic. So they

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bind everything to their will. Uh, zombies don't have any zombies aren't actually really

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like personalities. They're just meat puppets controlled by magic. So whoever is controlling

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them is the one the zombies are friends with. So there's no zombies without someone commanding

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them. They didn't just exist on their own for the most part. They can, but if they do,

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that's like, it's a random lone zombie. Uh, okay. Just shoot in the head with an arrow

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and the problem will go away. Okay. Uh, but then you have Sylvania being such a focal

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point of dark magic that necromancers and everything love it and vampires and everything

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love it and ghosts and banshees and everything awful. That's not an orc or chaos related,

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just loves it. So very few Hamlets like towns there, even the most populous ones do not

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number more than a few thousand at most. It's just not worth it as far as the empire is

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concerned. Uh, it's only officially under an imperial control because it's a little

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bit easier that way for them to send witch hunters and the like to deal with the latest

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vampire trying to pull something. So yeah, it's, it's just, it's a massive eyesore for

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the empire really. It's like how Croydon is to London. Like, Oh, it's crap. Oh, that's

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dangerous. It's rubbish. I'll take your word for it. That city's fitting. It's, it's like

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Detroit. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like Croydon's like our version of Detroit, at least in London.

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It's just like, yeah, don't go there as rough. It sucks. That's what Sylvania is. Uh, and

387
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that, uh, and because of all the vampire wars, it's also spread vampire cultists across the

388
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empire. So in Sylvania is the hotbed of them all because they know that's where the biggest

389
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concentration of them is. So it's, it's like a lot of the time, I don't want to say it's

390
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,840
a war zone. It's like there's a shadow war going on where let's say you're a Sylvania

391
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,240
and peasant in the course of a week, you'll see like five different groups of witch hunters

392
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:01,320
and their soldiers Mark batch, March back and forth across the town. And then a vampire

393
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,840
will march across and then another witch hunter will come and kill them. And then so a necromancer

394
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:14,680
kills the witch hunter. It's just really unpleasant to live in Glasgow. Okay. And that's ignoring

395
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the fact it looks like it's straight out of an RL Stein book. Yeah. What are those books

396
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,840
called? Oh no. The goose bumps. Thank you. Yeah. I remember the theme song perfectly,

397
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,480
but not the name. The thing is whenever I think of that theme song, I think of that

398
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,440
weird Shrek animation version and it's stuck in my brain whenever I see it. Oh well. Man,

399
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,200
I got in a while without remembering that. At least I'm not remembering the right thing.

400
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:50,440
So thanks for that coming back. Mm hmm. You're welcome. Yeah. And every now and then a vampire

401
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,360
will go, I think, I think it's time to recreate what Manfred and Vlad did a while ago and

402
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:01,120
try and start crap. And it's actually happened so many times that that Hellfen place where

403
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:07,640
they quote unquote killed Manfred, they stopped numbering the battles that take place there

404
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,520
because they think it just encourages the vampire to try again. So I'm not very creative

405
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,920
like, cause I can imagine they could do a lot if they actually applied like, okay, maybe

406
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,680
we should try something different. Like go somewhere else where they might be able to

407
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,280
apply themselves a bit better. Surely there's better targets than the empire.

408
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:31,440
There has been, there was one, I bet you can guess again, oh, what example is Colin about

409
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,800
to bring up? What book series is he reading on? Uh, Godric and Felix. I was going to say,

410
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,240
is it Godric and Felix? It is Godric and Felix. They get around guys. Uh, where there was

411
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:46,280
a Lami and vampire, I believe, who was starting crap at the edge of where the tomb kings,

412
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:54,120
the mummies live. Okay. In one of the jungles. So they do get around. It's just, uh, even

413
00:39:54,120 --> 00:40:00,240
Warhammer fantasy, it is still very, you know, the main human nation centric, uh, not quite

414
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:05,240
as focused on the empire of man as it is on the Imperium and 40 K, but they do still have

415
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:09,840
the focus. So it's just a matter of this is where all the authors are writing. Uh, I feel

416
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,520
like they, they, they're missing a trick with Norsca cause it's probably like, there's probably

417
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,520
so many bodies under the snow that it's too cold to get to. You could be like, raise all

418
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,680
them up. I'm cold blooded. I don't mind the cold and you could probably do something there,

419
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:29,480
but like, Oh, it's not as appealing as the empire. I guess they can do that. It's just

420
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,600
the farther North you go, the stronger the presence, the chaos gods have, and they don't

421
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:41,200
like the competition. Undead, undead magic and Warhammer fantasy and age of sigma is

422
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:49,440
actually pretty good at countering chaos because the way it works is it basically, it flips

423
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,440
the laws or flips the middle finger at the laws of both the reality and chaos as much

424
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:02,400
as chaos has laws. Uh, because you know, chaos is ever changing and wacky and all that zine

425
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:10,720
stuff and mortal beings generally are not sustained by magic. I just, I just like the

426
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:17,280
idea of like maybe undead bear cavalry and the other side, that would be cool. A vampire

427
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,720
riding an undead bear to fight chaos. That'd be cool. Yeah, that would be pretty awesome.

428
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,480
Uh, the blood dragons do every now and then go and fight them. It's just the problem of,

429
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,120
uh, bloodthirsty warriors who only care about combat. Khorne is a big fan of what the blood

430
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:38,680
dragons come knocking. A lot of the times if they don't outright join Khorne, uh, it's

431
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,680
a big old battle where no one wins. I like the idea that Khorne has a tattoo that just

432
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,160
says blood on his abs and he's like, I love blood. Look, raises his shirt like, see? It's

433
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,360
my favorite word. Guys, come on, come on. Join me. It'll be a great time. We love blood here.

434
00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:01,200
He's like, three guesses where I've tattooed the word skull. You get a bonus. Where I put

435
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:10,240
that one. First two don't count if you get them wrong. Now, uh, before we move on to

436
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:17,000
the inevitable part of any Warhammer fantasy lore discussion, uh, any, any questions, anything

437
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,640
you feel might be a bit missing? I could clarify a bit. Um, so I'm just saying, uh, cause,

438
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:28,840
cause this is, this is particularly about the Von Karstein and Sylvania faction. Um,

439
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,000
I'm just thinking like it's, it must've been very devastating that bit where you were saying

440
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,240
about when Vlad died. Um, the only thing I'm thinking is like, how did someone get close

441
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:44,760
enough to impale him on a massive spike? Like that, that seems like a really like it goes.

442
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,080
I was like some rando cowarizian just went, oh, just tackled him. And he was like, I'm

443
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:55,200
in very close proximity to a stake. It just seems a bit, you know, were they already losing

444
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,440
the battle quite catastrophically or was it lucky or is there any, is there any information

445
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:07,680
about that? It was basically after the, uh, after he got his ring stolen, uh, by a man

446
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,840
named Felix man. Funny enough, I guess if your name is Felix and you're hammer fantasy,

447
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:19,160
you just predisposed towards BS. Yeah. Uh, after he stole Vlad's ring, he was furious.

448
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:24,080
And as the siege of the Imperial capital of Altdorf was going on, he was just like, all

449
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:31,280
right, that's it. We're throwing down. I'm getting my ring back. Let's go. Yeah. So the

450
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:41,720
guy who did it, he was, it was basically like an all or nothing thing. Um, plus like he

451
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:45,600
wasn't winning the fight. Like it was a, is it Wilhelm? He wasn't winning the flight against

452
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,720
Vlad. He was getting his ass handed to him. He just saw that if I don't, if we don't save

453
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:57,480
the day now, like right now we're screwed. So in a hail Mary, he tackled, he tackled,

454
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:04,120
he tackled Vlad off the battlements onto the spikes. I'm guessing in the empire, in the

455
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,320
empire's history, he's revered as a hero then. If he's done that big of a deal. Yeah. They're,

456
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:17,080
they're, they're fans of Wilhelm. Uh, they even, uh, buried Vlad under his body just

457
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,880
to really make sure he's not getting in. Oh, and then there's like, oh, and his, his, his

458
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,840
missus was just like, ah, we just buried her somewhere. We don't care. Like we just want

459
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,160
him to sit on top of his grave. So he'd just be like, Nina, Nina, Nina, Nina, look at my

460
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:38,120
bottom in all of death. You need to sit and look at the man who killed you. Yeah. Yeah.

461
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,000
That's pretty wretched. I love it. I love it though. Just even let the plaque outside.

462
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,840
Just like here is buried Wilhelm, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And some other dude,

463
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:55,600
they just don't even mention his name. Excuse me. Some jerk, some jerk that he killed. Yeah.

464
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Uh, they, I think they also, uh, stuffed garlic in Vlad's mouth, buried it on sacred ground

465
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:09,160
and tied it up with silver wire. They were not taking any chances. You would have thought

466
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,360
like just inter him in a silver coffin. That would do the job, wouldn't it? Uh, I couldn't

467
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:20,760
find anything specifically on his coffin. Well, it's a warhammer setting. There's golden

468
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,480
statues every five feet. I'm sure they would, they're sure they would have gone the extra

469
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,600
mile. I was just saying maybe, maybe the empire of penny pinches. I'm not sure. Well, I know

470
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:36,040
Marcus Trubber and vermitide complaints about taxes a lot, but complaining about taxes is

471
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:42,000
hardly something unique to warhammer. Yeah. Especially when you mentioned the, the Gottrick

472
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,960
and Felix one where it's like the window tax. I'm like, I know about that from real history.

473
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,760
Yeah. Uh, so, you know, they have, they have their taxes and penny pinching ways, but I

474
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,040
didn't find anything on what the coffin was made out of, but I can't imagine they skimped

475
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:01,920
on it. Yeah. You just, you could just literally fill it with clothes of garlic and then make

476
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,220
it out of silver and that would do the job. Surely. Uh, pretty much what they did, except

477
00:46:06,220 --> 00:46:14,520
a vampire, uh, strong armed, a grave digger into digging up Vlad's grave and it was empty.

478
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:20,720
Oh, so he might be around somewhere or he's been taken. His body has been taken somewhere.

479
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:25,520
I will get to him in the end times. Although that being said, now that I'm actually just

480
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:31,840
remembering it, uh, uh, got trick and Felix short story. What a surprise. Someone tries

481
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:40,080
to like a cabal of necromancers who have been trying to resurrect Vlad for a while does

482
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,680
it right. Got trick and Felix interrupted. And funnily enough, Manfred von Karstein also

483
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,980
interrupts it because he does not want Vladdy daddy back because then he wouldn't be in

484
00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:57,200
charge anymore. Yeah. And the minds him. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so it half succeeds and Vlad comes

485
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,400
back, but he's like this bestial mindless beast. Oh, so it's actually cool. Got trick

486
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:08,320
and Manfred both team up and beat the shit out of the monster. And then Manfred runs

487
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,080
away cause he doesn't want to fight got trick because it's got trick. Yeah. You're going

488
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,400
to get in trouble. Anything. Kratos of the, of the universe. Anything in melee range with

489
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:26,840
got trick is swiftly going to be on existed. Yeah. Uh, but anything else, uh, to let me

490
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:34,440
put off the end times or, uh, I mean, the, the only, I mean, before the end times, I'm

491
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,960
assuming that since they've been, since the silver aliens have been diminished, they haven't

492
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:46,000
done much since then. I'm again, I'm guessing they're like, they're like one of those factions

493
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,040
where they're just kind of, they're being a nuisance here and there, but they're not

494
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:54,960
actually, they're not like a main player or am I wrong in that? They, they kind of go

495
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,360
through periods. It's like those vampire wars and then things die down as the vampires gather

496
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,200
their strength and get their wits back after the empire and the dwarves put them down.

497
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,720
Uh, cause the doors, a lot of the time they hate the most of the undead. They think it's

498
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:16,640
unnatural, which to be fair, very right vampires are the worst. Uh, so they, the, after they

499
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:23,240
get put down, they kind of gather their strength. Um, and then in warhammer fantasy battles

500
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:28,440
for a while, it was a gearing up to where, you know, every, all the evil factions were

501
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:35,000
on the march. So, you know, our Kayon was getting ready for the great invasion of chaos.

502
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:41,720
Grimgore was gathering the orcs, uh, you know, Malekith was getting ready to take back Ulthuan

503
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:47,880
and the vampires, uh, Manfred was getting ready to do something real spicy. Okay. And sure

504
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:54,160
enough, now we get to the end times. Uh, Manfred does something real spicy and resurrects Nagash.

505
00:48:54,160 --> 00:49:01,840
Oh, he resurrects Nagash. Uh, yeah. Him and Nagash's right-hand man, Arkan, uh, they kidnap

506
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:09,360
the basically the Pope of the empire. Uh, so Nagash can use his body to possess and

507
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:18,840
resurrect himself with as well as the daughter of the ever queen of the high elves who, what

508
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:25,040
they planned was because ever queens basically have a bit of the, they're like a composite

509
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:30,000
soul. So the soul of the previous ever queen goes to the next and then that goes into the

510
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,120
next and when they die and on and on. And there's also a bit of the Elven God Isha's

511
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,280
power in them. So they figure, Oh, let's just take the daughter and then we get all that

512
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:48,520
sweet elf soul power. Uh, and Nagash is even stronger. Right. Uh, doesn't work because

513
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:55,000
the previous ever queen is still alive. Uh, and so this daughter, Aliahthra is really

514
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:04,080
just a, it just, it's like when you want to move, like you want to move a decoration from

515
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,200
one part of your house to the other, like you want to put something on a different shelf,

516
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,840
but you haven't moved it yet. Uh, she's basically, Aliahthra is basically an empty shelf going

517
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,000
to get a bunch of soul juice. She doesn't have the soul juice yet because the current

518
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,560
ever queen, Elariel is still alive. Uh, I'm just surprised anyone would want to revive

519
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,560
Nagash considering how much of a dick he is. I'm like, why are they like, Oh, he's gone.

520
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,560
You see, Arkin generally thinks Nagash is the only, like one of the only ways to survive

521
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:41,400
chaos, which is why he does it. Manfred thinks I'm going to backstab him and take all of

522
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Nagash's power. And then Nagash comes back and eats the God of the dead in the Warhammer

523
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:56,120
world. And then Manfred realizes, Oh man, I done, I got what I asked for. Didn't I?

524
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:04,720
Whoops. Yeah. Uh, so Nagash is back. Uh, Volkmar the Grim, the Pope's name, he's dead. He's

525
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:13,720
gone. Uh, as for Aliahthra though, uh, funny thing about her, like I said, no Elven super,

526
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:19,880
you know, God souls in her yet. Uh, but she's the son of this elf called Tyrion. And that

527
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:26,600
is important because, uh, he has this funny thing called the curse of Cain in his bloodline.

528
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:33,880
Oh, that Elven dude that gets, that gets ganked by the ultramarines. Cool. We were in the

529
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:39,480
other setting. Cain is actually a war God in this setting. He's actually good. He is.

530
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:45,400
He gave Slaanesh a permanent scar that never healed. He's actually competent in Warhammer

531
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:53,000
fantasy. Does he look the same? He does. Uh, not quite the same actually. I'll, uh, I'll

532
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,400
send a picture of him. Uh, well, uh, he, it's mostly the same. Cause in the 40k he's got

533
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,240
like the sword and he's got the, the, the volcanic flesh thing going on. I'm like, that could

534
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:07,680
be quite interchangeable I would have thought. He, yeah, it's, you can tell it's like, yeah,

535
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:17,640
it's still Cain. Uh, but he's a lot like he's spikier and his sword is a lot slimmer and

536
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,240
more curved. Yeah. Yeah. You can still, you know, look and go, yeah, that's clearly Cain,

537
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:26,600
but his helmet, like there's not the, his helmet's a bit different looking swords, different

538
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,620
lot more spikes. Still angry looking. Still very angry looking. He hasn't had any coffee

539
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:37,800
for a week and he hasn't slept. He's like, I'm angry. Yeah. And, uh, because, you know,

540
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,640
Aliafra, the elf they were sacrificing to bring back Nagash and power boost him, uh,

541
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:49,120
has, is a descendant of the bloodline that Cain has cursed. Uh, Nagash just gets the

542
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:55,440
curse, just inherits that instead of all of the elven god of life's power. Okay. Uh, but

543
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:03,560
he's still stronger than anyone on the planet at this point. So Sylvania goes from being

544
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:10,200
just kind of a shithole, uh, to Nagash's new home because Nagash goes back to Nahakara,

545
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:18,360
blows it up, uh, takes his big old magical black pyramid made out of warpstone, uh, hovers

546
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:25,160
it over to Sylvania, uh, across several continents. He just floats it over. It can fly apparently.

547
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:31,320
Is, is that a, um, is that a parallel to a blackstone fortress or is that just like,

548
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,160
it's also a pyramid-y looking thing? Uh, I don't think it's, it's not really a parallel

549
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,840
to a blackstone fortress cause those are, you know, they're like the mysterious Eldar

550
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:46,360
artifact thingy. Yeah. I was just thinking it's pyramidic. It's, it's like jet black.

551
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:52,840
Maybe it's similar. Maybe this, like Nagash's pyramid was kind of an inspiration, but like

552
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,480
those are weapon kind of things. This is just his big pyramid that he made, one to help

553
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:02,760
him with magic and two to piss off the tomb kings by building a bigger pyramid than the

554
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:08,080
best tomb king. Mine's bigger than yours. Pretty much. Sounds like something Nagash

555
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:14,960
would do to be honest. Yeah. So he floats. His hat's so big. He's just like, my hat's

556
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,080
bigger than yours. It's massive. And every time they're like, I've made mine slightly

557
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,920
bigger. And he's like, right, fine. My two feet. I've added two feet. I'm going to make

558
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:30,720
it much bigger. Yeah, exactly. So that happens. Uh, everyone, like the chaos gods are not

559
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:37,180
a fan of that because the gas has just shown, well, he just ate a God were gods and his

560
00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:43,020
goals are pretty anathema to theirs. Like he wants to replace chaos with just in a gash.

561
00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:50,040
He wants to be the unending God of everything. Uh, so after he floats his pyramid over, uh,

562
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:56,640
Nergal demons try to invade Sylvania, uh, and the Skaven do the funny, the funny explosion

563
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:05,220
and nuke his pyramid. Uh, Nagash throws a hissy fit and kills the entire Nergal demon

564
00:55:05,220 --> 00:55:14,000
army with one blow, uh, because his version of a hissy fit is a WMD. Uh, but you know,

565
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,400
he's lost his black pyramid that he was going to use to make himself stronger with. So he's

566
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:25,040
getting, he's kind of out of ideas. So we leave Sylvania for a bit. Uh, Nagash is by

567
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:30,680
this point he's back. So he's in charge of all of the undead remaining. So in the end

568
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:36,000
times for a while the undead are really just Nagash's foot soldiers or whatever he needs

569
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:44,880
them to be. Uh, he actually does bring back Vlad. Uh, and then says, yeah, I'll totally

570
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,240
resurrect Isabella one day if you, uh, you know, if you serve me and just hold that over

571
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,680
Vlad's head. Couldn't do one nice thing in his life. No, he couldn't. No, he couldn't.

572
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:04,840
Unfortunately Nergal demons resurrect Isabella. Oh no. So that's not great. No, she's a stinky.

573
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Oh no. Uh, so as all this is happening, Nagash and all the undead go to the Wood Elf Forest

574
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:20,280
with the big old fancy tree of life. Right. Uh, ally with everyone living by this point.

575
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:26,280
Uh, Nagash or not Nagash, uh, Vlad actually talks to Karl Franz and it's a pretty funny

576
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:31,320
interaction because by this point, most of the other elector, elector counts that could

577
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:37,800
become the emperor are dead. Uh, so Vlad goes to, you know, Karl Franz is like, you know,

578
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,200
if you die, I'm a, I'm, I'm up to be the emperor. And then Karl Franz just goes, well, you need

579
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,240
to be alive to be the emperor dickhead. And since he's undead, he's not technically alive.

580
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:57,560
So not eligible, go back to where he came from. I smack you with my hammer.

581
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:03,280
And all that's happening, uh, Nagash and the living ally. And then it's time for the finale

582
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:10,280
of the end times. And so they all go to the, uh, they all go to, you know, big final battle.

583
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:16,360
A chaos rift is opening much like the ones on the North and Southern poles. Uh, the vampires

584
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,840
are, you know, fighting chaos. The side of order is fighting chaos. You know, the elves,

585
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:27,520
the dwarves, the humans, uh, one of the elves teleports all of the orcs in the world, uh,

586
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:33,120
to that point. And now they're fighting chaos, uh, because tech versus techless is a bit

587
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,920
of a broken mage. He is mid max to the extreme. Just like the, who's just like, oh, the orcs,

588
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:49,560
um, smash. They're cool. They're here now. Uh, to briefly get away from, from the vampires

589
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:55,480
is I'd like this, uh, Grimgor iron hide, the prophet of Gork nearly kills Archaon doesn't

590
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:03,200
succeed. Oh, does why not? That sounds cool. Uh, you know how Abaddon has dracnian? Oh

591
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:09,000
yeah. Sort of the demon in it. Archaon has his own version of it and Grimgor head butts

592
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:15,400
him so hard that his helmet with the eye in it, they can see the future breaks. Oh, uh,

593
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,800
and then Archaon has to shatter his sword and release the demon in it to kill Grimgor.

594
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:26,160
Right. Uh, but you know what? He still put up a good show of it. As for the vampires,

595
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:32,000
uh, they're fighting, you know, they're doing what they can. The eight and the incarnates,

596
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:38,480
uh, which the people that, uh, I briefly talked about the winds of magic and warhammer before

597
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:46,400
each, there's eight of them proper ones and each wind inhabited a person. Okay. So the

598
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:51,720
ones that are left are trying to close this chaos rift. And then Manfred walks on the

599
00:58:51,720 --> 00:59:00,760
scene and he goes, yes, this is the perfect time to stab someone in the back. I, nothing

600
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:08,920
can go wrong here. So he walks up to the incarnate of metal, Balthasar Gelt, while he is closing

601
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,240
the ever expanding chaos rift that is threatening to destroy the world. And he goes, yeah, I

602
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,080
think I'm going to stab him through the back now. And he does. He stabs Balthasar Gelt

603
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:25,920
in the back. Thank you, Manfred. Very cool. Uh, you know, Gelt dies cause swords don't

604
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,560
belong in people's spine, uh, believe it or not. That's pretty bad for you. Not, not great.

605
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:38,100
Not great. Uh, and then Tyrion, uh, stabs Manfred in the back with a sword with that

606
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:44,600
has the power of the sun in it. So he ultra explodes, which is a bit of revenge for killing

607
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,800
his daughter way back when. Problem is the world is now ending. Cause one of the guys

608
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:56,520
who was keeping chaos from overtaking it just got stabbed. Uh, the Elven wizard who brought

609
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:03,200
all the orcs here tries to take Balthasar Gelt's wind of magic into himself, but he

610
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,460
already had to do this with someone else. Uh, so now that there's a third wind inside

611
01:00:07,460 --> 01:00:13,840
of him, he explodes, rift is overtaking everything. The world is doomed. Nagash is crumbling into

612
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:22,760
nothingness. Uh, the last living vamp or at least one of the last vampires, Neferada,

613
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:30,840
who was the first one she's still around, uh, retreats to Sylvania with her, I believe

614
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:37,480
it's her cousin, uh, who was a tomb queen and you know, that's they make up cause boy

615
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,880
did they hate each other for a while. Uh, but no, it's the end of the world. The vampire

616
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:49,000
and the mummy make friends. And the second to last bit of the Warhammer worlds destruction

617
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,640
actually takes place in Sylvania as all of the remaining undead and living people still

618
01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:00,880
left make a final stand against chaos as it consumes Sylvania into nothingness. That is

619
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:08,200
the end of the vampire counts in Warhammer fantasy, I'm afraid. So, so they got, they

620
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,960
got messed up by their own top dog and Fred and he's like, yeah, this is a good idea.

621
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,120
Manfred's not like thinking ahead, like maybe chaos is a problem. I shouldn't be interfering

622
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:23,920
with like, nah, it's fine. Whoops. Not even enough brain power to go. Maybe wait till

623
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,400
the rift just after the rift is closed and then stand. No, no, it had to be now. It had

624
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:37,160
to be now. Setting needs to add. What a dumb dumb. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, that is the vampire

625
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:45,320
counts and Sylvania, uh, Von Karstein's specifically while I'm at it. Are there any final questions?

626
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:51,120
Uh, oh, I should mention also that Manfred survives in the age of Sigmar because of course

627
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:58,520
he does. What? Why? He got blown up by a sun sword. That's not fair. I believe last I checked

628
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:04,240
the reasoning was, uh, because he is still a pretty powerful vampire wizard and the gash

629
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:10,240
can yank them around by their chain pretty easily. So hold on, but didn't you say that

630
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:16,240
the gash crumbled into bits at the end of, uh, it turns out chaos locked him in a, like

631
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:21,000
this fancy magic crypt thing and then Sigmar broke him out and then they went on a buddy

632
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:27,100
cop adventure for a while before the gash became interesting betrayed Sigmar because

633
01:02:27,100 --> 01:02:35,360
these people do not learn their idol is scream. Uh, but yeah, he's Manfred as for why he survived.

634
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:41,520
It's because in part because he is pretty capable, uh, in part because, uh, Nagashi

635
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,440
uses his constant treacherous scheming to, you know, keep his edge sharp and in part

636
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:51,280
because he makes a funny like fall guy. So whenever anything goes wrong, the gash just

637
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,860
beats up Manfred like a chew toy. Would it be fair to say that Manfred is the cockroach

638
01:02:55,860 --> 01:03:01,600
at the warhammer fantasy universe? At this point, I think it would be pretty fair. Uh,

639
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:06,200
I'd say that could also apply to the skaven, but I think cockroaches are easier to get

640
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:12,240
rid of than the skaven. Yeah, they're likely that the tardigrades, you know, those little

641
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:18,680
like bear micro things that just like we can ex we can survive explosions of nuclear proportions

642
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:25,040
and they're like, yeah, cool. But just more violent versions of them with teeth and claws.

643
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:30,280
Yeah, I know. Like the cat, the counts sound interesting. The vampire sound interesting.

644
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,560
It's just the case of like, they don't seem to have the best ideas of what to do with

645
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,120
their time. That's all I'm going to say. No, a lot of them. I think it'd be so useful.

646
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:45,400
Uh, you know, I'll give Vlad credit. He wanted to be in charge and he almost did it, uh,

647
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:51,680
you know, evil, but I can't fault him for what he did. He seemed to have a pretty, pretty

648
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:58,880
good idea on how to do it until he lost his magical ring and fought war hammer fantasy,

649
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:05,080
Leroy Jenkins, who tackled him on to his spike. I can't blame, I can't blame Vlad. Uh, I

650
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,200
was going to say, um, the other thing was when you mentioned like the dwarves, I know

651
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:16,120
you got chaos dwarves. Has there ever been a vampire dwarf? Or is that just heresy? Off

652
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:22,640
the top of my head, I can't name any specifics. I believe I've read some Lord where they are

653
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:34,780
at least implied to exist in very small numbers. Uh, but dwarves do not like vampires. Uh,

654
01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:40,640
they hate orcs and chaos more, but that's, that's like a matter of saying, Oh, this terminal

655
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:46,340
disease is worse than the other terminal disease. Like, yeah, you know, yeah. I, I, I, I'm glad

656
01:04:46,340 --> 01:04:52,120
I don't have cancer. I just have diabetes. I don't like diabetes. Yeah. I know. I just

657
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,640
like the idea of like a dwarf going, I'll have this if it can help me defeat the other

658
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,920
factions. I hate even more. Like, I'll take this on, but like really mess people up. Uh,

659
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:07,320
usually at least the passage I read and it's been a while I'd have to go back and find

660
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:14,240
it implied that it was more result of the invasions than getting forcefully vampirized.

661
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:19,680
Not so much a dwarf was like, well, if I do this, I can really mess up the orcs. As

662
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:24,720
well as dwarfs just like, I need a sharper ax and a bigger one and I'll be fine. That's

663
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:34,600
all will be good. Uh, but yeah. Um, yeah. Uh, but uh, they're definitely the rest of the,

664
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:39,240
the rest of them. Yeah. They're, uh, they're not as big a threat. Like they're not as legendary

665
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:45,320
as a Vlad or Manfred. So they don't cause as big of a ruckus, but they do. Like I said,

666
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,120
uh, at the beginning, if chaos isn't the main threat, it's probably the vampires. So they

667
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:55,360
do get up to shenanigans. It's just a lot of the time they've, they need a, they need

668
01:05:55,360 --> 01:06:01,240
a break to gather their wits. They catch their wind. They don't have either the North pole

669
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:06,240
or the realm of chaos to just retreat back to at any given moment. So they gotta, they

670
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:12,600
gotta lay low for a while if they're defeated. Use the zombies as fodder. Like just take

671
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,920
care of them for a minute while we catch our breath. It's fine. That's yeah. That's, and

672
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,040
that's a valid use of how to, how to do it. Tire them out, fight the super zombies and

673
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:29,160
then the superhuman knights charge you down. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, I, uh, definitely one

674
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:34,060
of the factions I wish there was a more direct equivalent of in 40 K. I love the undead factions

675
01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:40,960
and fantasy. It's a bit of a shame we don't have like an equivalent with, uh, I mean,

676
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:47,200
I mean the Necrons are kind of being there undead thing in 40 K, but yeah, they're like,

677
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,400
they're kind of like the tomb Kings after their, you know, that rewrite way back when,

678
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,560
uh, you know, now they have all got wacky personalities and fight each other just like

679
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,880
the tomb Kings, but they're still like, you know, the robot, the robots, like they're

680
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:09,980
not true on dad. They're like trans human, you know, crazy robots, not like the proper

681
01:07:09,980 --> 01:07:16,040
undead like yes, some magic dude is puppeting this guy's corpse and then doing that a million

682
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:21,960
times over. There's not, there's no quite negash equivalent to just be the worst person

683
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:28,320
ever in 40 K. Even, even the stuff in 40 K with like Nergal is more like, oh, he's,

684
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:33,520
he's like kind of, he's strangely naive and a bit silly, you know, oh, Nergal is just

685
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:39,640
like, I'm giving gifts and being a nice, but it's like, I don't know if, I don't know

686
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,200
if like all that pus and everything counts as a blessing. Oh, well, that's a bit of a

687
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:50,640
nasty gift. And he's like, Oh, well get my ladle, make a nice potion. Like naughty boy,

688
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:56,760
stop it. And then there isn't that, like there isn't the malevolence I find of like negash

689
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,400
or the vampire counts to an extent where there's just no other than Abaddon who's more of a

690
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:07,240
stilted like my dad was going to be in charge. And then he got told off and obliterated.

691
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:12,280
I'm angry now. Like there's, there's not like the equivalent of negash. Yeah, I'll do it

692
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:18,160
then fine. My dad was cringe or he shows up. He's like, I'm the big threat now. I'm going

693
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:22,920
to be the worst person in the galaxy. You all could go to hell and I'll send you there

694
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:30,800
myself. Yeah. Oh yeah. I, like I said, I do wish there was something that, oh, maybe one

695
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:39,040
future release, but for now we just have the vampire counts. Is there a, yeah. How was

696
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:46,960
a, have you, do you feel more informed on the faction that I accidentally left out completely?

697
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,880
I do. And they're interesting in that. I like the idea of like what you were saying about

698
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:56,480
the whole thing with like Vlad and his missus, like having like more to them than just being

699
01:08:56,480 --> 01:09:00,160
the evil undead people. It's like, oh no, they have like motivations beyond that. And

700
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,160
that's quite interesting. And I can imagine how the dynamic is where it's like, they're

701
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:12,640
not accepted by pretty much most the people in the unit, in the setting. And yeah, I don't

702
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,920
really want to know anything else about Manfred. He just sounds like a pain in the ass. But

703
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:22,800
you know, the rest of them, you know. Yeah. Yeah. He's the worst. I think it's Nagash

704
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:28,160
because at least Nagash is a dickhead on design. He's just not a dutch. He's not, it's fun

705
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:34,600
when he does it. Yeah. He's like a Scooby Doo villain. And yeah, I hope this was a good

706
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:39,920
little introduction. There's, as with the same with the last fireside, there's of course

707
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:45,880
a lot more, but you know, these are the, these are the nice little introductory little bites

708
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:53,600
to Warhammer fantasy for y'all. So there's a, of course there are armies, you know, zombies,

709
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,120
ghosts more, all that fun stuff. But I hope this has been a good little primer to what

710
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:05,600
the vampire accounts are like. Do please let me know if I've managed to do the same thing

711
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,120
last time, just on smaller scale and miss some vital character. Oh, there is one more

712
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:17,280
character I want to talk about. He's not that relevant. I just find it really funny. Okay.

713
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:22,360
I don't remember his name because his name is not even the important part. He just was

714
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:28,040
like, I'm going to be the next Nagash. And at least by, you know, a while ago he did

715
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:33,840
have rules and he was a powerful wizard. He was real damn good at, you know, being a vampire

716
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:39,900
mage. And then the end times happened and came around and the gas comes back and he

717
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:43,900
offers all the vampires like, Hey, you should come serve me now. And granted it's an offer

718
01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:50,460
you can refuse. So most of them don't, but this guy goes, no, I am your equal. You will

719
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:59,160
serve me. And then the gas lights his head on fire. He's no longer around. He does the

720
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:05,700
halo cosmetic thing. It's just like burning skull face. Yeah. He turned on grunt birthday

721
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:12,280
party. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Pop. Done. Yeah. There, there was a, there was that guy.

722
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,680
Like I said, not really that important in the grand scheme of things. I just laugh every

723
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:24,680
time. Just a fun aside. Yeah. It's like, I'm in charge. Oh, I'm on fire. Yeah. We always

724
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:30,520
like an upstart who has no credentials to do so. Why not? Oh, I didn't think this through

725
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:38,680
it. I overestimated my powers. He's like, Oh, I'm way out of my league. Hmm. But yeah,

726
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:46,520
like I said, this is Ben, the vampire counts. Uh, yeah. Make sure, make sure you, uh, I

727
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,040
don't know, check, uh, check out the last one for the rest of the factions that I didn't

728
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:58,080
skip over. Uh, yeah. And tune in next time. Any, uh, any teasers you want to give Andy?

729
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,480
Uh, I don't know about teasers, but I would say, let us know in the comments. If you want

730
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:07,760
us to, like, one of the reasons we did this video in particular is because we missed the

731
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,400
vampire counts in the last episode and people were saying, we want to see stuff on them.

732
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,720
So if you have a particular faction you want us to cover and let us know in the comments

733
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,280
and we'll, we'll have a look through cause we read all the comments and I guess we don't

734
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,440
know what we're going to do next time, but we'll have a think and, uh, you have the power

735
01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:30,560
to influence our decision. So that in mind, the, uh, we like to keep the quizzes and the

736
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:35,840
mainline podcast nice and scheduled, but this is a, just like we've said, a little primer

737
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,560
to warhammer fantasy. So if there's any, anyone in particular, you guys got an interest in,

738
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:45,200
let us know and we'll, we'll take a look and see if I'll go through that one next time.

739
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:55,880
That like make it the, make it the else, make it the else. Thank you. Thank you for watching

740
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:16,280
everyone and have a good one. Bye guys.