Epic stuff. Yes before we start I just want to say Horace's special power is Riz. I have to say
Does anyone else agree with that before we start?
Riz heresy
Hundred percent I'm editing this as well as I have to edit a picture with Horace's eyebrow raised and his like chin more chad
Oh man, Louise. I know what have I done so
When the Emperor hits you up with that dollar store sword
Man I'm hearing that. I was like themed to Sin City isn't it? I can't play it for copyright reasons
I'm just hearing that. I'm gonna be like this is it. And as Horace is like you know your warm-ass stern is just in Sin City. Okay.
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We're discussing more on the timeline of 40k and we're doing something a little bit different today where we will be discussing
The prior marks now, we're not going to be discussing all of them today
But I will hand it over to how where he will be able to run us through with what we're actually going to be talking
About in detail. So up to you how yes
So today will be a look at the the glorious the Chad's the the money makers
Shall we say in Warhammer and we'll be going over the first ten prime marks?
Obviously, we will do the rest later, but we want to give a bit of a flavor shall we say of these?
I don't know if the giga Chad's is the right word
But they are like the the biggest drawer I'd say for Warhammer
So if you have the giga Chad's the Chad's of the giga Chad's they are literally that mean but even more square jaw like
Minecraft Minecraft your has a jewel
the giga is to Chad's
The gig is no the off I can't I can't get the word out. I'm thinking of a quagmire
So yesterday will be doing the good old Primark's and I'll
Hand over to Eli to give us the beginner section and our introduction to the best part of Warhammer lore
Take it away
Thank you, sir
This will be a very quick beginner section because I don't want to take too much away from what how's already gonna be saying
So basically the Primarks as you said are the giga Chad
genetically engineered demigod sons of the Emperor himself, which he created
around the 30th Millennium he created them to aid in his great crusade, but before that the unification wars even
Unfortunately for him. They did not really stick around for the unification wars because the powers of chaos or
Erda whichever is technically Erda I guess
scattered
Yeah, she literally took the kids in the divorce papers and there was a big mess for the Emperor
I'm just gathered she scattered the Primarks because she saw
the Emperor becoming this
You know dictatorial war obsessed guy, which to me what else do you think you're creating these 20?
Super-soldier warriors for but whatever
To be fair. He's not a great dad either, but I don't think tossing them in the hell was the right
Out with the bath water, but that's taking it to a new level
Yeah, these were the Emperor's greatest creations though
And he put an incredible amount of meticulous perfect work into them
using him and Erda's DNA to create these like
Almost godlike beings demigods basically
They are faster and stronger and taller and bigger and better than a regular space marine in a million different ways
And they all have their own unique powers some have crazy psychic powers
Well, some are even stronger than the others will some have incredible charisma
Things like that, but they were all scattered throughout the galaxy and each landed on their different planets
Except for one no no he was still one. He just was really close
Yes, they all landed on their own planets and then were subsequently raised on these planets
So they all grew up in different cultures which made them all very unique and different
Some of them came to conquer these planets most of them did though
some of them were not so lucky and
Had a very bad time
We'll talk about him in the next episode. I think
him
We all know who it is
Trabbo which is always unfortunate
So mean to poor Trabbo
So today we're only going to talk about the first ten
Which means the first nine because one of them isn't around anymore
And he never really was so I'll say the names and then I'll let how
Describe them in a bit more detail. We have first legion to 10th legion going from lion
And then second is redacted and we have full grim perch rabo jagged icon Leman Russ
Rogal door and Conrad curves singuineous and ferris mannus
And I think that about sums up
The Primarchs as a very general statement. Let's get in some more needy gritty
Epic stuff. Yes before we start. I just want to say Horace's special power is Riz. I have to say that
Does anyone else agree with that before we start?
Horace heresy
100% I'm editing this as well as I have to edit a picture with Horace's eyebrow raised and his like chin more chad
Oh man Louise. I know what have I done? So
When the emperor hits you up with that dollar store sword
Oh man, I'm hearing that. I was like themed to like Sin City, isn't it? I don't obviously can't play it for
reasons
I am not and as Horace is like, you know your war master and it's just in Sin City. Okay
Okay, let's not let's get not get off track too much because today
It is as I said earlier the best part about warhammer law day. It's a special day
This is arguably the best topic for any podcast. So
Hopefully we're gonna get into some nitty gritty details and let's take it away. So
If you are new to warhammer, I thought we might be
Really imperative to know what is a Primarch probably the first question that should be asked. So
As Eli said earlier the Primarchs are these like superhuman demigod figures that were created by the emperor of mankind
Or also known as Neoth, Gary
Don't know mysterious figure. It's all Goku Goku Goku with a drip
I have to end that here dammit
There's an emperor drip picture
You can definitely I looked up hooded emperor from my Lehman Ross video
And it was just the emperor in his golden throne with his supreme jacket on
That is amazing
You sounded way too excited about that
As excited as he should be
That is true
So the Primarchs themselves were created in the Warhammer time period
They were created in the Warhammer timeline towards the end of the 30th millennium
So humanity's been around for like a decent amount not as long as Eldar obviously respect to Colin there for Eldar lore
and
Primarchs are
Enormous, they are typically I actually had to look this up. They are between 12 and 14 foot
um, I guess some of them are like some of them are the difference between like 5 foot 11 and 6 foot if you know
I mean, like some of them are very
Yeah, some are a little bit taller than others and now apart from the uh, the boys from the alpha legion who are short houses
But still yeah, they're the short boys actually alpharys might not be fair. He wouldn't you wouldn't know his height because it's all redacted
uh, but these are
These are the super soldiers of the Warhammer universe
They were designed to be the generals in the army of the emperor of mankind
and it was for the greatest war of their time called the great crusade this was the
The reunification of mankind following the age of strife. So in the warhammer timeline
humanity is kind of on the brink of failure, shall we say it's
degenerating it's getting worse and
They're created as a sort of re
Maybe not reunion, but I guess a a renewal. Let's say a renewal of this
Uh a new they're for a new golden era shall we say and the genetic components that made up these Primarchs
If you didn't if you are new to warhammer, they are essentially what turns a normal
Man into a space marine. So these are the poster boys of the setting
And I thought actually it might be interesting to go a little bit farther back because technically I may be wrong here
So this is a bit of speculation
But if their origins were actually during the mid 20th millennium
And this is when the emperor of mankind emerged from the gate of molloc
So this is where the emperor in the warhammer timeline enters the warp and then
Immediately a second later comes back into real space and he is the emperor figure. He's like super powerful
And it's sort of implied that he
Gained the knowledge to create the Primarchs during this process
I might be wrong on that to be fair, but a little bit of PTSD thrown in just for good measure as well
Just just a hint. Oh no
A bit of spice just a spice like a little salt bay
A little sprinkle if the emperor's mind was like, you know, like super high-end restaurants where they have loads like really tiny dishes
He's like the little scoop of like the teaspoon of sauce on PTSD
That's a weird acronym. Excuse me
So we return now to the 29th millennium
So the emperor of mankind
very much a mysterious figure and we don't necessarily know all his intentions, but we do know at this
Dawn of a new age that he's been abandoned by
The perpetuals which are other immortal humans like him and
This is why he decides to create the Primarchs because he wants as we said earlier new generals for this great crusade
And so he combines his genetic material with the other perpetual called the primarchs
Uh the other perpetual called urda. No, no funny business there or a gene lab. I swear
Nothing crazy and this is where they
Craft they handcraft the 20 Primarchs and this is deep inside the imperial palace upon terra
so this is on earth and
there's this i'll put a
Slight warning here. There's some slight speculation that I might ask if the rest of you guys if you maybe agree
You might disagree with me, but there is some idea that the primarchs nature that they're very
Souls themselves are actually unique warp entities
so
it's perhaps why
uh
I wrote here like they when humans meet primarchs in the setting even when it's described in the books like people just
Immediately want to kneel and they feel like a sense of awe
Or so just um, not even just like regular people. It's like one of the books with um,
Aroman talking to magnus and he's saying about how he had to really concentrate on not kneeling as soon as he met him
Because he was just like i'd told me not to kneel anymore. It's really difficult not to
Yeah, there's something there is something a little bit. There's there's an extra source added to them. That's a bit mysterious and
It's perhaps I speculate here. It's also why there weren't more than 20 primarchs made and slight spoilers
It's why they can't be remade or reborn
Uh, like you couldn't make a like a thousand primarchs essentially. There's something
There's something special about uh, each of their souls. I feel do you guys agree with that? I'm not really that that's a little bit
of my own bias there
I like that theory. Yeah, I think it's also like implied that there's like a kind of
One of the reasons that the primarchs are so individually
Um geared towards a specialty is because they kind of have like an almost primordial
Uh, like element to them like with the calm of speed like he's kind of like almost an embodiment of just
ast in the very
The way that the warp works
So it's almost like he's infused with the literal like backbone of that idea the element itself
Um, so again that is some force. Yeah, he is he is one with sonic. It's like yeah, he is
He is you couldn't get much more
It's kind of hard to explain but yeah, I think I think it is speculative
But I think it's also hinted to it in the books that yeah, they are literally
Elemental forces imbued with a human soul to an extent there's something mythological to their nature in a way
I don't know if that encompasses it correctly, but there is something like said like speed or like traits and there's something
Uh, like almost in human myth assigns to them and they
I guess we could say it dominates their personalities, but before we could learn all that fantastic news about them
It goes downhill. So
Uh, they're in gestation capsules these little 20
I don't say babies because they're like they're enormous like like it's not like a little babies like yeah
Like no one's thinking. Oh wow, I could throw that and get a spiral like
What do you do with children
Uh, a family gathering is a nightmare
Whipsaw oh look at that spiral. Wow, that's my baby
That's an image, um, I can't believe I have to edit that in
If the the bears could use your talent
I say who are the bears they could use any talent. Oh
This chicago football team that was one of the six first ones and is absolutely garbage
And they played football with their hands, you know
Yeah football. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great way to discuss that another time
Uh, because we had the lot whether talk a lot about primates, but the english football is the correct football
Uh final statement
so
Yeah, no, no, no, that's it. That's it. That's in front end the statement. So the
basically it all goes downhill from now on and
Deep in like sort of vaults of terror
Under layers and layers in like the most secure places under the emperor of mankind's kind of watchful eye
the primarchs and their gestation capsules are like ripped from
Inside the imperium's like innermost sanctums and they are tossed into the warp as elias stated earlier
There's a there's a lot of mystery. There's some
Interpretation to this event. They think it's obviously so not obviously it was implied that
Early on in the horrors heresy books. It was the chaos gods that were responsible for this
But there's also kind of more revelations about urda the other perpetual she might have
uh intervened or
There's a certain the truth of it is kind of a little bit after interpretation
But isn't there also a bit where like some word bearers go back in time and they're kind of in a weird
They're they they observe like the laboratory and they're not really there
But they're just observing and they kind of see the the opening stages of that. It's like it's all very all over the place
it's implied like uh
Through that book, uh for if you are new to warhammer
This is implied that some space marines during the great crusade are actually responsible for the scattering of the primarchs as they start to learn about
Chaos, but I actually think in my own personal opinion
That was a lie and it's actually a vision
Like shown to them to help them turn to chaos. I don't think that actually happened mirage kind of like uh,
I guess it'd be spoilers for horrors. So i'll keep my mouth shut actually
Not spoilers, but like what they showed him
Kind of yeah, so it was a future in which like may or may not have happened or it was a possible sort of event
And I think that might have been a lie
But so the primarchs themselves all twented them in the little cute. I don't say cute pods. It's not really cute
But they're like archaic, uh, like warded psychic
Warded pods they're ripped and they are thrown into the warp the realm of madness the kind of
reflective mirror dimension within warhammer where basically nothing kind of
If something good comes from the warp it has like a little like there's always something bad with it
It's kind of like marmite, you know, I mean you either they're like oh, yeah, he's it
And so today we'll be covering the first 10 primarchs and their kind of story about
Where they landed and a little bit more about how their homeworlds kind of forged them. Uh, we won't be going into
We're essentially going to end at the point that where they will meet the emperor because this is about uh,
sort of their early
Life, shall we say so good evening? Go back to your own country. What the fuck did you just say? Am I devious?
Yes, I think I am she speaks the bullshit
First one out the gate as elia mentioned earlier. We're starting with
Perhaps the most handsome chad in all of the setting we have the lion lion l. Johnson
keyword loyalty
He's he actually I think he's pretty cool to be honest. I only learned about him more recently and I think
competent primarch. It's a bit refreshing thinking after very much so so
Tim and gilliman
Oh, well at the which one is more competent. That's the bigger question. Oh, which one of them is awake?
You got you got me there, yeah
I can't repeat that. So the story of the lion is
So at the time he's the first primarch. So he's he's subject number one
so he lands on the forest world called caliban
and uniquely to a lot of the fate of the other primarchs he
Was alone so he landed like he rocked it in and he landed deep inside the remote jungles of caliban
And let's just say caliban
Not the friendliest. It's not the fresh prince of bella. It's labeled as a death world
Yeah, it's definitely the beginning of the first primarch
Death world. Yeah, it's definitely the beginning of the fresh prince fresh prince bella but in reverse he goes to the to the worst
This is it's all about my pot crash down
Yeah, this is a that that's a I can't believe I brought that reference. That's not even in my notes
So he lands on this
world and the forest itself is
full of
Really like monstrous and creepy kind of it uses the word specifically tainted creatures. It's a very
Forest is the nice word, but it for it is a nightmare of a forest
Let's just say it's not a pleasant place to like live
And he actually spends the first decade of his life completely alone
He's essentially a feral beast. He's in the wild like hunting and eating by himself. He he's a hardcore karzan pretty much
He's like bear gorillas, but the real like hardcore
the actual program the real bear gorillas and
This sort of again, I said I'd continue for a decade until he
meets a human
So one day the humans of the world they actually
Find this there's a story
Uh of how the first primarch is found by the humans and they find him like this injured little creature
It's like full of mud and he's
um
Just like they think he's like a disgusting like another one of the beasts, but they actually to their shock
It was a human being and obviously not just a human being an enormous kind of slightly quite
Enormous human being it's like a big proportion. They they did they did and
This was found by the man named luther. He's very important to the lion's uh story himself spoiler
He's called the lion
so luther is
a human who is part of the knightly orders of caliban so caliban itself is a
Semi-techno semi-technologically us a bit of a mouthful there semi-technologically advanced feudal type world so they have a kind of
I guess like best place a feudal system. There's like serfdom and things like that. Did you have some advanced technology?
They have like mentioned like power armor and things like that
But again, they kind of they follow like a very old
old doctrine shall we say and luther is actually the
man
Who takes the the first primarch in and he names him lion l johnson
This is where he gets his name the lion
and
He sort of is guided. He's nurtured by luther
he essentially grows up in a
Uh, like in our own world like a holy order of knights essentially that's like the lion's upbringing
It's very much just martial by raised by like the teutonic knights or something essentially. Yeah, very much a kind of
I wouldn't say a normal human existence, but
That's that's too far
but he has like a very different kind of upbringing and
I think like when we were actually talking about this elia mentioned a really funny tidbit
He mentioned how when luther first saw him the primarch filled him with more dread than any other monster
leader because that just shows you that when you do see a primarch they are actually properly intimidating and
They're not no, you know, it's not just a big human. It's actually like oh this thing could like break me in half
and the lion growing up he
I mean he was exceptional primarchs themselves can learn that I said earlier that they're stronger faster smarter. He picked up
language like super quickly and
He eventually became the leader of all the various
Knightly orders of caliban they all unites under his leadership
And they enact today I put quote unquote crusade to purge the there's a certain theme of crusade
Sorry saying more hammer like son
So he has a crusade to purge the monstrous beasts of caliban once and for all
And when they finally completed this purge of these
Alien beasts with the lion sort of leading the charge and him, you know trains all his life essentially as a soldier
He they finally do it and that's when the big e shall we say big emperor big chatty daddy
arrives
And just a sort of small
description kind of what the lion
Is I think I said to Eli as well like I'm listening to major kills videos and he said
He thought the lion was a was black and then I thought that the sake for longest time too because they don't actually like
Often tell you the description of certain characters in wal-hamas
I thought I'd give a little bit of like a kind of rendition just to visualize him if you are an uh audio listener
So first trait he's enormous. He's huge
He's actually quite fair skinned. He's I think you said it early earlier and like sort of a king Arthur looking figures
Arthurian legend in warhammer, basically very much. So they have a
Like and his war gear as well because I thought there's no way you can't mention a primal to war gear
So here's a very much a templar slash eastern european like tectonic
Order vibe. Thank you colin for that mention. I do like how the residents of caliban can make power armor, but they haven't figured out light bulbs
It's like amazing
priorities
And you can think europa universalis
Thank you. Europa universalis for for making me think of it
I've been playing that too much. I love that game and so for the lion himself
He his personality is a
Commanding quiet. He's very reserved like a regal type figure. Many people have often said like he's quite
Emperor like himself. He's very much a I wouldn't say politics is not the right word, but I guess a warrior king
Sort of a vibe to him
he was actually
Amongst even all of the other primarchs. He's a brilliant tactician and commander but
Uh, he has terrible people skills
He he often is often safe that he actually doesn't read other humans very well
It's probably maybe because of his upbringing being alone for so long
Yeah killing massive beasts with your bare hands when you're like one year old like probably does that to you a little bit
And like even then it's say to like luther his like his father figure
like he often had like step in and to help be his like orator his like, uh,
Kind of wingman shall we say because he was just wasn't you know, speeches aren't really for the lion
And I thought a little a little bit of uh, extra spice to this video. I thought we interesting to know where the real world
Uh historical inspiration comes for some of these primarch figures. So
Lionel johnson's name
Actually comes from the uh, english poet lionel johnson. Not very subtle there
There's not a lot of subtle reference in wallhammer and he is the author of the poem called the dark angel
Uh, if anyone wants a little bit of reference to that, it's the dark angel poem is about the man being a
closeted man, uh, shall we say and uh
He very much sort of speaks about this dark secret
He's hiding and if anyone knows anything about dark angels secrets are kind of their
Five I should have put a keyword secrets for the lion actually would have been better
And uh, so that's the lion shall we say and
Oh, go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. So it wasn't didn't him and him and oscar wild were
very close, uh
I would have to I have to look more into that myself. I only know in reference to uh, the poet lionel johnson there
But it might have been true might be true if anyone isn't interested in that, uh, definitely look it up because it's obviously history's really cool
We were all wallhammer fans. We probably all leave the games. We'll plagiarize anything without any shame
No shame whatsoever. Just look at the empire of man the holy roman empire with the serial members filed on
Wow, it's like it's like copying someone's homework, but you're just so blatant it's like poetry they rhyme
Oh, oh george lucas george lucas. I remember that now and so now we move on to primark number two
We made this one up. It's a made-up tale. It's a total fabrication. It never happened
It never happened. This one was invented by a writer not this time
Redacted this one is missing. So this is a interesting part of wallhammer law where
the
Second and spoilers the 11th primark are known as the forgotten and the purged
so
As we know within wallhammer history all
Imperial records have been expunged. They are if you want to know dark souls law, it's like the um
firstborn son of gwyn yeah. Yeah, that's a cool reference there and uh,
Literally, he's they are
Oh, yeah
That was pretty I enjoyed that they finally got that in the last game
So he the second primark is completely missing from imperial history. We have very few moments of like
They give us hints throughout the wallhammer law, but they're very much a an intentional mystery
Uh left within the universe. I have found like some notes. There is a reference which I think fulgrim
Uh, the third primark makes which is that these he remarks that his second brother
Uh was a had a personality of being quiet and contemplative. That's kind of
What we mostly know
Uh, I do have a theory myself that he might be the forgotten part of the forgotten in the purged, uh
Area, he's uh, he's like he says he's humorless as well. Like he's a very straight-faced kind of guy, right?
Definitely, I remember correctly something. I mean today this will definitely cover the missing primarks in there
I think they're they're enough to be I mean his own episode because there's such a interesting mystery
But do you guys have any thoughts or speculations about the missing primarks? I think you might
Do you have any idea about I think there was some reference to where we think they might have gone missing or what?
Conflicting that or did you have any like thoughts you might want to share?
Uh, I don't
It's not I guess that's strictly about the them, but I know
There's the rainbow from old like rogue trader when it was first coming out
When we knew all 20 of the legions
I know one of them was the rainbow warriors and wasn't another the vindicators or something like that
I thought god really old lord holy freak. I'm glad they didn't put rainbow warriors because that just seems like
Found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow
To be sure they actually look pretty cool they were I think they were supposed like aztec themed space marines
I
Have to say now that plumage I'd say now like the
One that does have like even though it's definitely like copy your own homework and there's a lot of like cool
Repetition is like myths of like our own history like coming up
Within the warhammer says like sort of history itself repeating
I often find like we could we could use a little bit more flavor in terms of like cultures we draw from in certain
Areas because a lot of it is just very much. It's either greco-roman or you might notice a theme is either greco-roman or
Greco-roman, so yeah
And sometimes a little bit of gothic like the architecture a little bit of gothic too
But uh, so that was the second prime mark and i'll now hand over to elide to talk about our our glorious
Perhaps top three prime marks ever
Yeah, take it away for the next primal
The prettiest boy the most beautiful fellow don't have me sinquineus
It's fulgrum himself us
I should have asked earlier. Are we talking about past the big no-no time or are we just keeping to before the big oopsie?
We can keep to before the big and boy, uh, you know good old kimos a bit
Also, i'll say here as well a key word for fulgrum perfection
before the lorg are let down
Yeah, that's a funny way to put it
So yes fulgrum
Uh descended upon this planet called kimos and the planet of kimos
Was also a death world not quite like caliban though. There weren't any monsters on it
It was just this barren
Awful place where the resources were dwindling they had old tech that barely worked
so the population had to work day and night with uh,
With literally no free time. It was rare to work. It was rare to live past the age of 30
Um, they had to just work constantly because if they stopped working they wouldn't be able to eat
They wouldn't have the resources that they need to survive because their machines were just so inefficient and they didn't make things
Well enough for the population to have any time off of work
Oof and he would have been gone by now
Chopping block
I was wondering was that a personal insult? Was that just because i'm the oldest?
No, no, no, because they literally you wouldn't have made it past them
Yeah, i'm asthmatic as well. So like is like a mining world
Like 10 working in mines and resource resource producer thingies. Um
My lazy ass would have died well before andy
But basically this uh, this pod comes down from the heavens and
makes this big scene and the scouts see it and then some guy comes out and um,
Um, they find this beautiful baby with purple eyes who is akin to an angel from the heavens and they think it's a sign of some sort and
in
Something that never happens on quemos ever
he was volunteered to be taken in as an orphan because
Obviously on a planet with no resources. They just get rid of orphans and they're not allowed to really exist at all
Um, but this man took
Hmm, I always speculated that this is a bit dark because it's obviously a grim dark universe
That the orphans get put in the resource machines. Yeah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, that makes that would make sense. Honestly star chest to come from somewhere. That's right. That's right
Is it veal or it's like baby cows? It's like the equivalent of that for humans. Oh my gosh
It tastes like depression
Oh
So so they take they take fulgrum in and he grows quickly obviously like all the other prime marks, uh, but he's
He's just a guy so he goes and works in the mines with him. He starts
He starts at the very bottom, which is a really cool part about fulgrum stories
He starts at the very bottom and he goes to the very top
Um, but he starts working in the mines. He's way stronger and way better than everyone at it literally everything because he's the perfect
being to ever live
and so he's able to
Put a lot more work in than the others and he's also a technological genius and he's very good at forging
And creating things so he starts to improve upon
their resource production machines and ever so slowly the people in his area start to actually
Uh have a net gain of resources which has never been seen before and eventually fulgrum works his way up to the very top of society
And starts traveling around the world with teams of engineers to improve everything
And the world all of a sudden transforming into this beautiful lush
ripe place with actual nature and not just desecrated horrible land and
Eventually fulgrum becomes the planetary governor of the whole place without a single drop of blood shed much different than
A lot of other primarch. I think I think he's the only primarch that unites his world through diplomacy. Doesn't he? He's the only one
Gilman did didn't he? I don't know. There was there was a few wars lots of fighting. Oh there was yeah
I just like the idea that sorry
Obviously is Gilman the eighth right?
So we're 13th primarch. Oh
Oh, I'm thinking when he was found. He's the eighth found I think. Yeah. Yeah, pardon me. Uh, then I uh
Uh, then I uh
It was a little bit of diplomacy with him a little bit of work a little bit everything
Yeah, I just like the idea that when fulgrum actually got like his inaugural speech where it's like what would you like to say?
To your people now, you know, he's just went
Start from the bottom now. We're here and that was it
Mike
but
but yes, uh now that fulgrum had
Kind of like reclaimed this planet and fixed it his population had time to pursue the arts
And have leisurely time in general and he became very
prideful
Of these people and very proud not prideful in a bad way. He was still his
Intentions were really good. He was very obsessed with perfection, but not the point of like breaking your minds
He was he wanted perfection and to better himself so that he could better other people
And he was a very noble man and a great leader and a great person in general
Um, and that will change very much in the next 10 000 years, unfortunately, but he started off as one of the most pure
And perfect beings that the emperor had ever created. Um
Should I go a little a little farther? I was gonna say I was gonna say you can tell it's elias favorite
Uh
Well, I think we'll keep it we'll keep it just before he meets the uh
Meets the uh, just up to the point where he meets the emperor, I guess and then we'll well that's this point
Then he meets the emperor and he kneels he kneels to the emperor and sees that he is the perfect being and that
He goes with the emperor with no arguments
Uh, no challenges are required and no
Uh holes to jump through or hoops to jump through I mean
Which is nice his uh real world inspiration
Maybe comes from the latin word folger, which means lightning
Um, and his nickname is the phonetian which will come in. I think he gets later, uh, which is
reference
Probably you would think to the culture of the phonetians
That he's all folgerman his legions all about purple as well
Their armor is purple and I know purple is a very regal color obviously in the word
phonetian means purple country they traded purple dye
With people. Yeah, he's very
Yeah, colin you're a you're a history boy. Yeah, he knows way more about this. Yeah, you might know
You might know a bit more about the phonetians
Uh, they were the phonetians were
The so if you know carthage, you know roman history
Oh, yeah
Carthage was a initially a colony of the phonetians
Uh that grew so big that they kind of became their own little empire and they were aside from rome
They were one of the dominant powers in the mediterranean
union and then rome
uh proceeded to
Unexist carthage very hard
To be fair it did uh, it was over the course of three wars and if you guys know hannibal barka the guy who walked
out of the elps. Yeah, the punic wars they uh,
Uh pretty much one of the only opponents rome faced at least in its early history
that really
Like rivaled them like rivals. Yeah, like rivaled them like they they plenty of people gave them good fights
But as an empire carthage was one of the only people that well as maybe not they weren't the empire yet
But they were one of the toughest opponents rome had to face
So the so fulgrim's a nice little uh cheeky nod to them
A little a little bit of language lessons. Also, I believe in swedish
Ful means ugly and grim is ugly in day nets
Ugly ugly
Eli is not a fan
Just a last little bit on fulgrim as well. Uh, can you describe eli his
General like aesthetics as well just for someone who doesn't really know fulgrim
Um, yes. Well, he's very pretty first of all thanks inguinious, but he's uh, he's naturally beautiful
He doesn't need any of the wings and you know makeup and whatever
Do you think his wings are like
Thank you, this is lovely he's so pretty inguinious is an is an angelic being he's not
It's not it's not the same thing
Fulgrim is all natural, baby. There's a really cool moment. He's had some work done
A little a little bit a little touch up. There's a cool moment. Uh, just with just for the cows of nikea in warhammer where
magnus the red the primarch he's
entering into like the kind of
Counter chambers and he actually sees fog it's described as fulgrim and sangoni his arm in arm laughing together approaching and I just imagined like
If you're a mortal human seeing that scene, you'd actually die
Because that would be amazing
Yeah, fulgrim had a lot of good relationships with his brothers for quite a while, but he uh
Yeah
That doesn't end well
I disagree that he's perfect
Yeah, well, you also interpretation perfect being in warhammer call friends like car franz sigma. It's snorri nose biter. Yeah
And I can look at all his better voice
I need some snorri voice land soon
All right, because I thought of snorri sorry
Depresio the the uh, he wears the gilded panapoli
Uh, I think I said that right and it's just uh, panellope panellope
Basically, this is very intricate
Mastercrafted purple artificer armor with gold and jewels and it's like
Yeah, it's very he's very blingy. It's very very pretty he has long flowing white hair
It's all beautiful. He's like l'oreal mixed with gucci. That's
Perfectly describes him. Oh, he wears the red cape and everything. It's got the the eagle on his shoulder pad
And he wields or used to wield a sword called firebrand which is like was like an ever
blazing sword kind of like the emperor's sword, but
but
smaller, I guess
Well, we've had a we had pretty boys here though, but i'm so sorry that we have to now talk about something a bit more
Uglier, shall we say so we're gonna talk about I have to understand be honest. So
Dude, what's all that stuff? You're grabbing tools
tools
Duct tape zip ties and gloves. I have to have my tools. We now move on to the fourth prime mark. So this is
is perturabo
keyword iron
so the story of the fourth prime mark was
This will repeat a little bit. So
The gestation capsule is rocketing from orbit that happens a lot in walhamer
People might notice a theme
So the fourth prime mark lands on the world named olympia
And this is an extremely like mountainous
uh place full of rugged terrain
and the people of this world are
uh inhabitants who live in
warring city states, it's kind of a
Okay, not even a subtle nod to ancient greece
It's just it's greece. Yeah. Oh, yeah a little bit. Oh olympia is this mountain is mountainous olympia. Hmm
Little bit, uh, you know a bit of a silent, uh nod there, you know, not everyone might catch that you know, I mean
but so perturabo was his name and uniquely amongst all of his brother primarchs
The fourth prime mark just he knew his name instinctively like he didn't get named
Fulgrum was named I think was it from a chemosian?
Deity's lion his name meant something. I forgot what I forgot what his name meant
Yeah, I think uh, the lot the lion was obviously nicknamed by or given name by luther, but perturabo knew his name and
he crashed into the mountains of olympia and
For the beginning of his life. He was by himself. So he was kind of like a little feral creature
Kind of like the lion but not you'll see why it's not really like that
But he was roaming he started to find livestock. He ate it bare-handed I assumed
And he would even fight like little monsters and serpent creatures upon this like weird like craggy
terrain and
He eventually found he started to explore further down the mountain and that's where he found humans
and
The first time he kind of interacted with a human. He actually went up to a like a local village blacksmith
and he used words I remember in the
The primark book he sort of used words. He just heard be kind of under he knows what the words mean as soon as he hears them
But his language is really basic
and he just starts to forge himself a weapon and
Uniquely for perturabo. He just knows how to do it. It's almost like the information is kind of
On like on his like very dna. So perturabo the fourth primark unlike
I think for I would I think fulgryn probably learned as he grew up but but perturabo
Just knew what he was doing and the kind of story about this incredible special
Kind of slightly enormous child
I found I always found that image quite funny. This is this massive child in the mountains
and it's not terrifying and
This story found its way to damikos named the tyrant of locos and locos is a one of the warring city states of
olympia
and he took in
perturabo, so
Perturabo was obviously a primark. He was incredible
and damikos immediately as the tyrant of the city literally a tyrant obviously ruler of the city he
Made primark his adopted son. So perturabo got an education
He was given material. He's given kind of anything he wanted really
but
Perturabo's upbringing isn't it's kind of a bit. Um
Um, like it's not even when he has all that it's not even a happy one like because olympian society where he grows up and it's
Really hierarchical. It's filled with war intrigue and politics
It's obviously kind of like literally the game of thrones a great game
and um
Transactional almost yes
as I go
Like the way he treats him is like ah the boy has some talents. I will use them to my advantage
very much though, they're kind of they're not uh
They're not really like I guess the same way like we have
Because the politics interrupts the family life, shall we say and this annoys perturabo so much as
He is kind of we see from like the way he treats every situation
He's a being of logic
And he doesn't really fit in with the people around him because they're all like cunning and political and he's very much direct
and based on the greek god, so they're a whole bunch of
The worst people ever we were going to use a you could use a worse word that I can tell
I think it's like
They're they're wanks essentially. So let's go with that. They're they're wankers. Okay backers is fine
I was thinking of the anime like oh backer
The blushing thing he's the god of wine. I think
Oh god, I misinterpreted that
I made an anime reference. I'm so sorry
Sorry
For that historical fact now he's the weeb and not me
yikes
So perturabo didn't he didn't fit in even to the extent that he didn't even take an olympian name
like he wasn't uh, he literally said I will be perturabo and he kind of like snubbed a lot of the uh olympians that way
and
His kind of inbuilt genius his aptitude
Uh for architecture and like sculpture work, uh was eventually
directly directed towards war in a place like this and
Kind of unlike the rest of the olympians perturabo was as I said earlier. He was direct. He didn't
Uh, there was no diplomacy or politics. He just
He built the machines and he took down the walls and with brute force he conquered olympia
And kind of so for the like the aesthetics of perturabo because I actually think he looks quite cool and
And again point one. He's enormous. He's a chunk
Absolute unit of a man and he has a slightly tan skin kind of greco
Like obviously it's olympia. It's grease essentially. He has like his himself like greco
features a kind of dark hair and
Uh, that's like with like his war gear. It's just like hey perturabo when you go into battle
Do you want to carry a war hammer a gatling gun a massive turret?
A cannon or like a sword and his answer is just yes, and he's just got all these guns and everything
He's kind of like if battle tech
Uh was meant to fit in a human form if you know what I mean
It was like it's like mentally put the battle tech robots and put them on a person
he's a unit of like a mix of
I think even I could I can probably get away with saying that some of his uh armor has some
some roman greco design to it, but a lot of it is kind of
uh brutal, uh
Tech just a weird comment. It's hard to describe it in a it doesn't happen on it though
You know like in hercules where they got the vases and they've got that kind of
Angular kind of swivelly design that goes around them. He's got that kind of pattern
So there are like those greek symbols, but they're they're kind of subtle also also stripes
Stripes lots of stripes lots of stripes there and his
He's definitely got the uh steiner scout lance of four atlas mechs, which if you don't know what battle tech is
imagine a scouting force consisting of nothing but uh warlord titans
Yikes
and so his personality you probably get a hint of what it was but he is a blunt brutal
Deeply like logical being
Paterrabo I think is a kind of nice
uh counter to him that he he himself actually loves to be an architecture. There's even like a cool
Reference even in during the horrors heresy like I think fulgrum delves into his mind and he
Like he tries to find what Paterrabo's dream is and his dream is literally just him being
An architect in an age of peace
So he's actually got quite a or even the bit where magnus and him are in a in a book and he's
They're just walking through and magnus goes. Oh, is this your worksbench?
So look at all these gadgets you're working on. He's like, yeah, i'm working on some stuff
He's always like he he he never wanted to be a general. He just wanted to make stuff
Yeah, actually i'm going to shameless plug because I actually have that exact excerpt
Uh read out on my magnus video shameless plug there, but it might as well. Um, and
Uh, the unique kind of I found this quite interesting about Paterrabo himself where
Paterrabo knows instinctively about technology designs that he never had to
He's never designed anything. He just had the blueprint in his head. So
There's actually a weird kind of insecurity about him where he actually doesn't he never invents things
He actually just kind of regurgitates. Um,
Uh designs so he actually has a he doesn't really have an artist soul. If you know what I mean
He's a living stc
That's actually perfect living stc, uh for someone who doesn't know what he's doing
Uh for someone who doesn't know walhammer
stc is a standard template constructs kind of like a
A build anything device. He literally you basically put in the greed. It's kind of like a what's the minecraft equivalent?
Like he's a lego master builder pretty much
What are those uh things in star trek where you just go like coffee and he just builds one you're like, oh how to do that
I don't know the food thing
Well, they just need go like I need this and they just it just makes it from like atoms or whatever it is
I can't remember what it's called
Kind kind of I know what you mean by coming with the name of it
but uh, there's like a last sort of facet of uh,
Pertorabo's personality, which is paranoia some of this is from being raised in olympia
You know assassins and cutthroats, but also
ever since pertorabo kind of
Came to consciousness he could always
Look to the sky and he would see the warp tear called the eye of terror and it kind of always made him
Unnerved at times. He wasn't always trusting because he kind of he always felt like he was being watched which obviously I think
Everyone behaves differently differently when they're being watched. So he was very much a
Little bit almost not insecure but a little bit off, you know had he had his shoulders were stiff at all times
and the inspiration for pertorabo is actually
There's there is some speculation here because it may be slightly obvious that his name kind of sounds like the word perturbed
Which you know no one would have guessed I can't believe you know, you know, wow completely out of the blue there
Which I mean just perturbed a lot
He is slightly perturbed
a rabo and
it also
Uh, it might be a reference to the motto of the author
Author slash ocular. I don't know how to say the word but ocularist called alistair crowley
Uh perderabo meaning I shall endure which is alistair crowley is quite a weird
Alistair crowley is quite a weird figure in uh, if anyone's like read some of his stuff. He's I guess ocularist is like a kind of a
Weird like he delves into like the mysteries of the
Universe and things like that. It's a bit of a strange great. Um, ozzy osbourne song as well. Mr. Crowley
Oh, I didn't actually know that was quite cool. But so now we kind of we leave the slightly
iron-faced, uh craggy looking man and we we now go to
Perhaps the fastest
Chad in all of warhammer. So now it is the fifth prime
Dying the life of a true brexit geezer
Jagatai khan keyword freedom
Um, so whoo, so andy will probably dip a dip in a lot on this one
So the fifth prime mark he roared out of the warp in his gestation capsule and he landed on a planet called chagoras
Best name of all the planets I have to say by far
Chagoras just hits different. You're like barbarous of being so
barbaric
You were you were hitting that and then it's you know, the horse picture of like
Yeah, it's obviously like our game of thrones seasons when and the end of the horse is drawing really badly
That's what I think I need to find that picture for this
And um, so chagoras itself is a feudal world. It's dominated by kingdoms
Uh, it's also called mundus planet. I think but that might be the yeah mundus planet is what the uh, the imperial
Yeah imperials call the people who live there call it chagoras
Or the ones who won you'll see what I mean in the end. So there's lots of kingdoms, but there's also
Uh steppe tribes in this, uh, great planet and it's actually they only have one continent. I think don't they like one big
F off continent giant
big boy and
Chagoras itself at the time of the 30th millennium is essentially they have black powder weapons
They're not they've they've kind of not got much going for them
and uh, it was in the sort of western
End of the big continent on chagoras called the empty quarter. It's where the fifth primarch
roared in and he crashed down into this sort of massive steppe land and
He was found by a tribe and they actually adopted him. They took him in
And this is all under the leadership of his now adoptive father called
Ong khan. I actually can't remember the name of jagatai's like original
I have a name, do you know his original name? His original name was ketugu suogu ketugu suogu
That was his uh given name. He didn't unlike first robin. He didn't recall a previous name and
Oh, well, oh, oh, okay. This is among us
So he was taken in by this
His step tribe. He was you know, he was raised upon the steppe land and it was a tribalistic life. He was hunting riding
I feel sorry for that poor horse. It's like
Does anyone know um, what's the boss in elden rings at radigan when he's like
Radon's like rod on to be honest the horse that's had the worst time in video games is probably a pona from
Open year of time like she's been through a lot. How many times can you kick a horse?
He's been through a lot to be fair to radon's horse. He learned gravity magic. So the horse wasn't
I don't think i don't think jagatai khan learned how to use gravity magic. I think that horse just suffered
I know but but let's be honest when you see that horse. It is
struggling
You do not look good and so jagatai and his struggling horse jerry say and other pastime of the step tries was war
as we all know nothing makes
uh step life better than war and
This all so he was growing up in this kind of tribe. He was he had a life of uh
The the key word was freedom because on the step tries with the wind in his hair
Uh good old jagatai. He was he loved the kind of
Uh open plane jerry say it was literally it's sung in his blood and
All of this was glorious until the day when his father ong khan was poisoned by their rival tribe
and
This was not good. I just I hope everyone agrees that they're not good. So it was a nice guy, too
I know that's the shocking part
Remember bridges like oh no, just there's not many primarchs who have nice dads when they do they're actually really nice
I know that's actually kind of heartwarming. I think gilliamans got the nice one, too. And um
Connor was a cool guy
So jagatai he rallies his tribe and they utterly crush their rivals, but they actually absorb
The people into his own so he starts growing and these are now coined the tal skars
they are i can't remember exactly what tal skar means, but I think it's something to do with
Uh a belonging sense of the obviously scars will come up a lot funny enough when we talk about jagatai khan
That'll be a thing to look forward in the future of a scar
and uh
But this was not just a life in the stats which was ignored so to the east
The palantines which are the city empires
Uh, they were they heard rumors of this like kind of growing horde and they attempted to kill jagatai because
You know don't let a threat build up. Good luck
It did not go well, but so they actually they attempted to kill him quite a few times
But there was one attempt where?
I think even like they actually had an avalanche that tries to kill him as well. They tried to literally bury him alive and
many of jagatai's friends and fellow jagoreans of his
His honor guard they were killed but he lived literally like kill bill. He like punched his way out
of the ground and
he joined back up with his tal skars and
he was then proclaimed the great khan and he united all the tribes of the steppe and with a
massive army of thousands of jagorean steppe horsemen you can imagine how terrifying that is
Uh, obviously if anyone hasn't noticed yet, this is slightly a reference to a certain
Uh genghis khan or the chingis khan
And perhaps the only time in warhammer history the warhammer guy's a lot nicer than the real one
that's actually true and they
launched themselves at the palantine and
They completely even though this was an age of black powder technology. They outmaneuvered
Uh their forces completely they they had um heavy plate kind of traditional obviously it's a
reference to medieval medieval
Warfare you can imagine
I think of poor hungary kingdom of hungary
They have walls as well like jagatai and his guys were living in tents and in the plains and these guys had like a big
Fortress sort of thing funny enough. We're going to mention walls right now. So
As they approach these walled cities
jagatai
Made one offer which is surrender or death and so
The ones that did surrender they were treated generally quite well, but then obviously the ones that rejected were annihilated
and
He conquered all of chugoris and but the interesting thing about jagatai. Sorry the interesting thing about jagatai was that
the lifestyle of the kind of
horde mongolian
uh style like steppe existence was actually
Something he didn't give up. It was he decided to kind of I think he's even said they might be you might
Notice and he's singing I think says in the book like what would happen if you'd conquered
All of the kingdoms or the palantine. I think jagatai said that we just released them and let them go and then maybe conquer them
Again one day I think it's also the timing of the emperor meeting him was really good because he he'd taken over the whole world
And he was like I don't want to be the guy in charge running it. I want to be out
hunting and doing my own thing. So the emperor comes around as I
Oh, I mean son
So i'm doing this thing called the great crusade
I need some generals. Do you mind?
Getting your guys out into the galaxy and you know bringing some worlds into complies. He's like
Galaxy, yes, please and he he willingly went. No, i'm not going to be in charge anymore
Emperor can do that and I can do what I want to do and I can achieve his goal
Which is what I want which is to bring humanity back to the world
Humanity back together as a cohesive whole that all follows the same rules and can be free
Very much. So so he was like free-spirited isn't he in his own way?
And he the kind of lifestyle he really wanted to have was actually not it was so far from what an emperor
figure was like he actually kind of funny enough disliked emperor figures and
The aesthetics of jagatai because this is kind of he definitely has one of the cooler
All the primarchs kind of look cool if you know what I mean, but this is jagatai's got a really unique
Like even his war gear i'll mention a bit his war gear is like some of the best out there but himself he was
Uh first point enormous as we say that's gonna come up a lot. He had slightly tan skin
In mongolian asian features and his war gear, which is my favorite part, which is
essentially
It's obviously has it has no place in a futuristic setting of like sci-fi fantasy
But he just wears he's like the proper like is it tal?
Talwar
He says talwar blade. He has like he like he wears like furs and stuff like that
He has a top knot and things he has a these he does have like, um a big armor plate
But it is like very stylized after asian asian culture where it's like the folding plates over each other
And it does have like a kind of um, like fanged helmet with like, um
Like a plume at the top, but it's it's not very often seen in the artwork, but he does that have that for like
When they went into space they needed to wear helmets and stuff
But otherwise he loves his levers. He loves his fur etc. He looks really cool
He's not he's not heavily armored like perturabo because jagatai can't hit him jagatai
as we say here he is
Very fast. He is perhaps the fast he can move the fastest out. He is the fastest
And i'm speed
He is speed. He's also got the best one liners
Oh, yeah, he's got a he's quick on his feet and he's got a quick tongue as well. Lorgar had a pretty good one at calve
at calve
Oh, I haven't I haven't got to that part in my own
Lore stuff yet. Shame on me. When we get to lorgar and gilman i'll
Maybe we'll bring it up in light in lorgar versus the chad kahn. That's for the next episode if you are
Watching we also actually have done a podcast episode on the white scars. So we go even
Into more like greater detail. So definitely we should mention that after this episode and the following one
We will do each primark individually. So don't worry. We will go into them into more detail. Oh, yeah, this is the primer
This this is just for if you you know, this this is the uh starter shall we say the entree?
so um for jagatai's
Personality he is cunning. He's very he's quite I wouldn't say quiet is the right word, but he's very reserved
reserved reserved is much better than what I put and he's also very wise as well. He
was
People underestimating his intelligence was actually one of his strong suits. He wasn't people obviously thought of him like the
barbarian like horse lord whatever but then it's kind of like in our own history where people
Don't actually realize that the mongolians at the time. They were like conquering actually with the same level of technology. So it was like oh man
He was very much the kind of
Uh, what's the word i'm thinking of he's not underestimated is underestimated often
And he's also
He had a very big dislike of the idea of empires itself
I think what if they're even deeper than that the idea of stagnation and weakness that comes from
That comes from uh, we'll say here building walls. He hated walls
and uh
Literally his personality trait I put here is he hates walls
And he also hated people
Showing off and being like look at me. Look at me fulgrum. Um, so yeah
He also didn't like to to project how cool he was and how good he was because he was like
You'll see when you need to see it if if we're gonna be giving giving away your strength when it didn't exactly
Uh-huh and uh for his inspiration funny enough. He slightly resembles, uh, uh, genghis khan, sorry chingis khan
Uh, if anyone didn't catch that harry potter
Jesus christ, um, but his name jagatai is a play on
Chagatai, which is the name of one of genghis khan's sons. This one I think is a reference to him being of a more
Uh, I want to say peaceful, but he was much more diplomatic compared to his father
So there's kind of a reference to
that and for primark number six
I will pass over to eli to talk about
The furry the furry boy. I'm just gonna say it furry boy. Hey, so primark number six take it away
Hey, let me get a man. Hey, let me go on two
What the dog doing yeah leaving rus the wolf king
Whose keyword we had was fury?
Uh rus of course in his pod came down landed on the death world of fenris
Uh, this place was not nearly as nice as jagors
Uh fenris is probably one of the harshest worlds in
Warhammer maybe that might I mean debatable I guess but it's it's certainly up there it has uh, very extreme seasons of
freezing cold or uh
Magma shooting up from the ice and it's there's kraken's and big giant monsters and everything is really crazy
But the people love it so good for them
Uh, but rus lands and he's then raised by wolves
Like uh romulus and all the other guys
From history and mythology, uh, see he's raised by wolves by a mother thunder wolf
with her cubs and eventually
One day a tribe
A tribe of guys come by and they basically kill all of the wolves they get in a fight
And they noticed rus is a human being after rus has like killed
Almost all of them bare-handed as like a 10 year old kid
Not even I mean, he was probably like, I don't know two or three by now
But he's I mean for primark that's probably around 10 to 12
Maybe um
So yeah, he kills most of them, but then they see oh this is a dude
Let's not kill him and he goes with them along with two of the wolves that did survive
Gary and frecky which would accompany rus into the great crusade and onwards. I'm not sure how
That works. I guess just imperium technology keeping his dogs alive or what like massive colors
Bowls of water and kibble
Yeah, I guess so
immortal kibble
But yeah, gary and frecky go with rus and
He joins the rus tribe and as he ages he quickly becomes part of the wolf guard for the king there
The king also gives him the name of leman leman of the rus which is how leman gets his name
and leman
Wins hundreds of battles and eventually becomes the king after the king dies of old age
Something very uncommon in a place like fenris
But when you have leman rus killing all your enemies for you, it's pretty doable to die of old age
That's like that's just it's honestly basically it
He becomes wolf king of fenris spreads his influence across the world
And eventually emperor comes to pick him up pick up his kid from the soccer game finally
and uh
the harshest um
Uh, what's it not reception the heart the harshest like play nursery nursery the harshest nursery in the galaxy
He was found really early on if I remember correctly
Um, he was the same time as ferris. Yeah, technically the third
But uh, oh, yeah, technically
Yeah
He wouldn't be emperor found him though. He was he came as like a cloaked mysterious figure
And challenged rus so they had three challenges to go through
Uh one was eating and one was drinking one was fighting
rus actually beats the emperor
in a drinking contest
And he beats the emperor in a eating contest as well
And now all the food and drink on this nice piece is eating up, but everyone's still loving it and the final pig
Yeah, yeah
The the final challenge though was that of combat and of course the emperor beats rus knocking him out cold
And when he comes to he has nothing but respect for the emperor and is willing to go with him. That's a lucky boy
Yeah, it's a lot more stuff in the yeah a lot rus's stuff
Um, everyone hasn't probably guessed as well. There's a slight norse
Uh viking twist. Yeah
Yeah, I think there's like um, oh as his aesthetics, can you describe his uh aesthetics to uh, yeah
He's similar to the con he kind of puts off this ambience of barbarism and
Uh stupidity, I guess con the con doesn't look stupid, but a lot of people think leman is stupid
he hides it very well though because uh
He's always described as being very cunning and very smart
He has fangs of course fangs and claws and the long luscious blonde locks of the viking
He wears his frost armor. That is kind of a gray light bluish with runes etched into it to protect him against
Magics and whatnot. He wears the pelt of a wolf upon his back and he wields the sword named mjolnar
How original?
Wow wonder where they got that from
He also has the axe of hell winter and then he gets a very fancy weapon later on
But we won't talk about that till later. I guess he has like four weapons
Doesn't he also have kraken maw which is made from the teeth of a kraken. I think so
I think he has the most amount of artifacts of all primarchs. He likes a good weapon
He's a massive fan of swords and axes. There's there's there is a reason for that though, which we'll get into
Yeah, he has very just wolfish features very he looks like a viking mixed with a wolf and that that's that's basically it
Got the cunning eyes. Yeah, lots of ruins
It's a shame
Sorry, no, I was I was done
So he's one of the coolest primarchs is in charge of the worst legion
Everyone so mean to the space. What was that? I like them too
He used to be a
The interesting thousand sons. Hi, i'm a thousand sons, uh the player
The uh, I don't care I got magic
But uh, I was like leman ross
Used to be
It's a weird part of the law like some bits of law. He's blonde and some parts he's ginger
It like it it's actually like one of the biggest I guess law crimes. It's actually a law crime
Like geez like in um early on he was blonde and then like in the primark book. Sometimes he's ginger
So don't there's a little bit of discrepancy to his the most ways like haircare routine is at the time
Just soaking in miod or whatever. He is quite blonde in all the horse hair see
Pictures. Yeah, he's quite well in a lot of official stuff. He's blonde but then I guess in the book
He's like ginger. So it's confusing. He also looks nordic as well. He's nordic as hell his look
Advanced enough that hair dye probably isn't beyond them knowing the imperium. They were probably like we need to purge all the gingers
Is
We have here um, he's inspired by kevin russ
kevin russ
Yeah, the vikings the vikings are settled northern russia in the late middle ages
uh possibly reference to russ's people
From the tribe of prince rurik
Colin you need to go anything to say? Yeah, you might we're hoping you might
Illuminate a little bit on the kevin russ if anyone's interested in that. I mean, it's kind of kind of hit the nail on the head with it with the
norse settlers of that general area of the world
If you'd like a little bit
Of further things I wish they would do which is part of why I don't like the wolves
There could be something about the verandian guard who were the uh
Norsemen who essentially served the byzantine the roman eastern empire
Uh, oh, who's the there's a name inside the is it hagiya sephir in?
Uh istan. Oh, yeah, there's like there's someone who's written in nordic
uh runes, I think was it like something like uh, was it friny was here or something like half that was here
Yeah, whatever it was. Yeah, it was it was like nordic
Whatever it was. Yeah, it was like no one translated it like for like over a thousand years
And by the time we did we're like viking seekers could be some cultural thing and then it's just like yeah like
profgar was here or something like
It's just stupidest thing
Language over time we didn't know what it meant
Oh, he meant I like I like that particular point though because especially of liman russ you mentioned earlier a little bit how I think that
uh, it would underestimate him because I think either said you said people think he's stupid but like
The thing about the space was to get a bad rap
But liman in particular he plays up the the aesthetic more than he actually is he kind of for the sake of his legion
He plays up the kind of fenrizian element and there's this there's even this thing with like um
When horus one of the primarchs makes him because he's oh, yeah properly found primarch and you know
We will talk about horus in the next one. But basically imagine michael caulion
If he was a primarch, you know, he's a gang boss originally
And then he's quite prim and proper and all of a sudden he meets his first brother and he's just
eating like meat with his hands and the ship he's in with the emperor and he's like drinking and then
He's he has a chat with him and he's got a weird way of speaking. He's like you speak funny
He's like I only learned your language two days ago and you're like
Oh, okay. So he's actually quite smart, but he kind of plays up the barbarism of his
It's implied that he fakes his accent to be more rougher than it really is
So he blend so he kind of blends in more with his fenrizian slash, you know, basically viking
soldiers essentially uh, he's
It liman rust if you are news of warhammer liman rus is
If you'd like space wars like they you love space for people who play and they learn about space wars because
Even reading some of their books. They're kind of like they're basically fantasy books rather than sci-fi
Hmm, especially the ones on fenris shout to weirdly tolkien esque in some respects
Very much. So they kind of shout out to you frankenau black main
The first book of his one because I read that and it's literally a fantasy book
There's barely any sci-fi until the very end
And uh, I enjoyed that one quite a lot, but uh space wars, unfortunately, there's there's too much wolf and not enough viking
I don't know wolves on fenris
That's a there's a joke. We'll have to explain one day
but
Sadly, we move on from the barbarian the wolf king liman rus and we turn now to
Hey there, is there a project you're working on? I know more than you
All right
Our seventh primarch. This is roguel dawn key word
Fortify there's literally no better word for him. I'm not gonna have any arguments. Oskar is a better word for roguel dawn
He fortified his haircut
his
Trash
Oh, he would look let me from motorhead
He would look cool with a beard to be honest
So the story of primarch number seven was that he landed on the planet of the
Landed on the planet of in wit
Uh, this is not going to be subtle again in the reference
Welcome to warhammer and
The planet of in wit is kind of this
None of the primarchs seem to land on
nice words a lot of time but in the wits kind of kind of similar to fenris where it's literally an ice planet
and it is
Yeah, it's just bitterly cold and
It's actually full of like sort of similar to ferens where there's like weird
Kind of creatures that are a little bit
Uh dangerous is not like it's not enough to kind of explain how bad it is there. There's a story about
There's like uh, two
Recruits trying to join the imperial fist chapter and they literally get attacked by this thing
emerges from the ice and it's like multi-limbed and it's like it like skates and it runs like full pelt across the uh,
Ice and that's always in my dreams
Um enough about that. So
Rogal his name was rogel dawn and this was a name given to him
by a
uh tribe slash clan system that inhabit the the uh space on in wit and
In wit itself is actually a lot of it's quite mysterious. Unfortunately, it's not one of the better fleshed out worlds of primarchs, but
There are some things that we can glean. So
they have like a kind of clan system where
People often on the planet they roam
Around like these huge like ice tunnels and it's actually kind of I think that kind of imagery is quite cool to be honest and
There's obviously war between tribes and things like that
But and there are some cities like that are deep beneath the ice, but the people of this world are sort of technologically advanced
to a certain degree they actually
Have expanded beyond in wit but funny enough for some reason they actually still live the same way they would live on it
Where like the sun is kind of dying and it's like, uh, it's just on its last legs and they're like, yeah
This is a bit cold and then sun's not helping. It's not very bright. It is bitterly cold. But funny enough that bitterly
coldness shall we say
uh
Seeped into the very people of this world themselves. So roguel dawn. He was actually adopted by
A man who he would actually he didn't know
He wasn't necessarily related to him. He's actually his adoptive grandfather. Who was the leader of house dawn
That's where he obviously gets his name dawn
as his last name and
funny enough, I think even though roguel dawn himself obviously it's like a it's a bitter world and
The people obviously that they live in harsh environment. They survive their survivors. They are they are people who endure
but
uh, it's implied that his grandfather was actually quite a
Nice figure to roguel. So he looked after this, you know, super soldier
amongst his ranks
uh, he was he eventually became the leader of uh house dawn and the clan and
Uh house dawn themselves actually it's kind of like game of thrones in a way where one house like rules these all the kingdoms and
So house targaryen essentially but without the without the uh, the inter sibling love
but um, so dawn was very much a kind of almost
statesman
slash warrior king figure and he
Even was he actually became the leader of this planet over decades and he would rule over like a
Kind of almost a mini pocket empire. He was an emperor. He literally was an emperor
and uh his kind of story was
Uh, it even states like if the emperor had never found roguel. He would have been fine essentially and roguel is quite a well balanced
Human bit. He's actually he's almost the most human in a way primarch. I think because a lot of them are quite
Flawed there's a trend of like flaws in the primarchs
But roguel seems to be more like he's actually kind of like an enormous human in a way
Can I mention something tied to that with his grandfather?
Uh, there was a thing that basically when his grandfather died
um roguel dawn had this blanket he would put over his bed because it was you know, he was his grandfather's
Uh because it was quite cold and throughout his life
He always kept the blanket from his grandfather as a reminder of how he raised him
So I thought that was like a nice little touch with roguel dawn where every time when he went to bed
Which wasn't often because he's a primarch. He doesn't really need to sleep much
He'd have his grandfather's like blanket on his bed and like oh, it's like a nice little human touch to his character
I like that part because it's quite uh
Human, you know, because they're all these super soldiers, but it's a nice humanizing moment
But to say that as well roguel was not any pussy bitch. I mean
This guy was um
An absolute unit of a man. So he his combat style would often even just
The whole ethos was endurance if he could take pain and
You know, he would take you know, he could take a thousand cuts and he would still win patience was his greatest weapon
And so for the look of roguel dawn, so if you were to like, you know, oh which primarch is roguel dawn roguel dawn
Point one again enormous. He is a absolute
Unit of a man. He has very like sort of pale skin. It describes like celtic features
His um kind of like fulgrum. He actually has white hair, but whereas fulgrum is this they have long flowing
gorgeous hair, you know praise to elif or
His his favorite primarch roguel dawn has the very like short cut
Kind of you know, no nonsense. I looked at I read once somewhere that someone said that he reminded them of like
us army like
Trainers, you know, like drill sergeants like that's his assistant
Like buzz cut very short cropped hair. No nonsense. Very tall and stoic and barking orders
Like that's kind of the aesthetic in a way definitely. He's not like the he's not like a pretty boy, but he's very much a
Like he's kind of looks like an average person where he's not ugly
He's not handsome either. He's just kind of very stern looking kind of like literally I say grandfather looking man
He's not obviously older than any of the primarchs
But he kind of he would be projecting the way he's like, you know, he's like a little bit more of a
He's not obviously older than any of the primarchs, but he kind of he would be projecting the way like being the oldest
As seniority very much so and his uh, his personality is stern. He is tactical
He's not the best with his emotions. He doesn't not understand emotions. He's not as bad as perturabar
No, he's better than the lot. He's better than pershraba and the lion like he understands people's emotions. He's just not very expressive
There's probably not a lot to express within himself to be honest. He's very cut and dry. He's also
Yeah, he's very stoic. He's a very enduring man as well
Very much. So he's kind of he's a perfect soldier really I think perfect soldier
Shout out to chastor master valrac if he ever hears this because he isn't
He I definitely didn't think much of pershraba before but the more you like kind of read about him you learn about him
you realize like oh man, he's
He's actually probably
He's like he's like he's on paper. He's probably the best primark on paper, but i'm also like he's
You say I know. Oh, well, maybe gilman to be fair on paper might be the best but uh, he's he's pretty
He's extremely um
Not like whatever useful but I mean he's very competent i'll say
And uh the inspiration actually for roguel dawn is the word roguel, which is a possible play on the word regal
regal
possibly because whenever you see um
roguel dawn's armor it is you know is
It's it is ornate golden, you know eagle. Is the only one who just goes like i'm copying dad gold
He does like his mini emperor look he's got the imperial drip
He's got his uh, he's not trying to riz but he's rizzing as you say
Hey in the plural i've just put that in there and um, but also the word dawn means castle or stronghold in old english
as well as uh
His legion. Sorry chapter. Should we say now uh, the imperial fist legion that are created from him
uh
Of the imperial fists and the word fist in irish. It's also
Uh dawn also means fist in irish, you know gaelic and things like that as well
so there's again not the most subtlest of nods but
He's very much a pretty he's he's the on the nose, but he gets the job done kind of prime arc
but
Having said all that nice stuff about a nice prime mark. We now go to perhaps the most horrifying
uh human like creature that's ever existed in the warhammer setting this is probably
This is this is the one most interesting
I know i'm doing i'm doing it because this is true, but this is one of the most I guess
uh flawed human beings
Ever I swear you would be of more use to me if I skinned you and turned your skin into a lampshade
Or fashioned you into a piece of high-end luggage. I can even add you to my collection
So this is prime mark number eight and this is conrad curse keyword
terror
so
the eighth prime mark
Which would eventually become conrad curse. He actually I think he conrad curse is someone who
Uh funny enough, he will he remembers his name not like perturabo. He actually remembers it from a vision
so it's kind of a bit different but he
Exits the warp and he rockets towards the planet called nostromo
Is nostromo I think is also a link to
To a book but it's also the name of is it alien the ship in alien is the nostromo
Nostromo so there's not mass nostroma. There's an a and o so it's nostromo but in alien is nostromo
Well, it's a it's a nice link there because but you definitely get the same vibes here because this is horrifying so
Nostromo itself is an extremely like it is almost
uh
Midnight black the world is extremely dark its sun is
Is not even visible through the clouds. It's full of smog pollution
It's actually awful and it's has a very few has like five main kind of hive cities that exist on this world
where humanity lives and in the middle of uh, one of these cities on nostromo
the
Eighth prime mark crash lands and he emerges from his capsule and is immediately set upon by someone trying to kill him
and
So he he rockets are into the atmosphere. Sorry. He lands in the crust of the planet
Doesn't he exit in magma? No, he he like crawl out
He literally crawls and also in a storm itself. The world is filled with
lots of rare gems and minerals and so
The eighth primer actually claws himself out like, you know, bloody his fingers and he struggles and he when he emerges
Sorry, he literally emerges out of the hole and he's immediately set upon by someone trying to kill him and the reason for that is because
Nostromo
Is essentially a lawless hellscape. It is um
Think of like a mafia kind of run like crime city
but on 11
It's midnight black in the streets and it's just all dripping with you know smog and pollution. It's awful
and even like his first
Instinct like first human he ever sees in the world the eighth primark
Tries to kill him and he immediately again because he's a primark snaps him in half
You know, he folds him like laundry shall we say?
um, and he
There's no food. So he actually consumes him
And that's when he starts to see yeah
He's obviously like the images and like the memories of people when he consumes their brain material
Which actually most all space means can do actually yeah, they can all do it
It's quite a bit of a weird. I'm not you know, yikes and the eighth primark
So he kind of his unique thing about him. He's growing up alone in this
place of nostromo and
He's a lawless crime ridden place and he had no one to look after him and he kind of learns by observing humanity
He sees like the cruelty
and just
The awful way that the nostromians like treat each other even though their skin he kind of resembles them in a way
but we'll talk about that in a bit, but
They're like kind of all very pale people that their eyes are their pupils are so large
I think that they you can barely see out the whites of their eyes. Yeah
They're kind of a little bit
off looking and uh
They he very much is alone growing up in this terrifying place and he is plagued by visions throughout his childhood
And into like adolescence and that's how he learns his name. He's kind of he literally raises himself. So conrad
occurs and
he
Kind of doesn't really understand like why he's here again
He doesn't he he has certain like little bits in his mind visions like filling in the gaps
but he feels within him like many of the primarks feel like an innate sense of
Like they have like a duty to like all them eventually like sort of conquer their worlds a lot of time
They feel like a sense of domination or like there's a will to exert
And for poor old conrad his thing was justice
And this is where he turns into something called the night haunter figure because he learns an interpretation of justice
from a people who do not have justice
and
Yeah in the night he uh, he very much learns that the only thing to ensure what his twisted like form of justice is
is fear and so he becomes the night haunter figure where he
dominates he eventually dominates all of the world in a strammo in a rule of
Tyranny and fear of the night haunter creature that will punish people and by any crime
I think there's an awful part where someone wishes to let's say, um
Take their own
As as I imply here, you know end their journey shall we say and that is a crime to him
And so he then punishes and tortures that person in such a way that no crime would ever be committed on the strammo
And he eventually after decades creates this very sort of strange
I say straight because strangers didn't even cut it because the people of nostrum
Are so definitely afraid of stepping out of line because any crime is punished by
Extreme torture like becomes a tyrant. Yeah, he becomes a sort of weird tyrant king
But then also in a strange place when he when he's then names himself like king of nostrum and all the high of cities
He still personally hunts people who?
Do role which is awful, but you know, he makes time for it and but funny enough the society sort of transforms into
Actually the best version of itself funny enough. Obviously it was done through
Horrific means and be fair to conrad as well if you are alone on a planet where i've like to give there's a story about two of
The night lords who eventually become part of the legion as kids and they're like brothers and they're just barely hanging on
And they find another boy and I think for a while they live with him to be like, it's okay
You can live with us and then they one day they get fed up with him crying all the time
They kill him and eat him because they're like, oh it's better than eating rats and it's like
I don't know how else you would like manage to get rid of him
I don't know how else you would like manage to get that planet under control. I mean, it's it's a terrible situation to be in
Nostromo had armies, you know, he's on his own nostromo sucks. Basically
It's awful
and so if you were to
It's the aesthetics of if you say conrad kurze slash the night haunter. So
Conrad kurze himself is
Again enormous. He is a towering
Demi-god figure his skin is extremely pale
Waxy he is a sort of eastern european very very gothic kind of eastern european features
Uh, mainly many people describe like gaunt looking so it's even more terrifying when you
See him. He doesn't he doesn't kind of command the same
Or that a lot of the other primarchs do when you see them
Almost malnourished if that were possible for a primarch she commands you to void your bowels
That's very to be honest that is a little accurate 100 percent
and
The personality of conrad is
I think the best way is like skitterish. He's kind of his mind very much. He was haunted by visions
And tormented tormented by visions his whole life and when he like ate people because he had no food or didn't know what he was doing
He he would have the minds of basically criminals of like a awful planet
Then sort of absorbed into himself. So he's very much a
sadistic he's a terrifying
a slightly
Weirdly self-righteous character. He's he's obsessed with there's an innate sense of justice within him, but obviously it's been perverted by
What nostromo believes about that one of the most tragic characters?
Yeah, he's very he's a very broken man, but his legion to fair their aesthetics themselves
They kind of don their armor with like icons of fear
They have their whole uh, he he like he learned
Quote quote learned that the only way to control humans was fear
And the inspiration for good old conrad curse is actually from
Possibly the novella called heart of darkness by joseph conrad another conrad
Makes sense. This is actually a story about a former ivory trader in the congo
If I if I was a man named like kurtz and he rules over the native population as a charismatic demi-god kind of
Inspiring, you know, uh, you know an outsider coming in ruling over the people but it's also
inspired by good old vlad the impaler which
Which I think if anyone sees him or when you read the story you're like, that's an obvious hit
I don't know if colin wants to give a i'm pretty sure most people have heard of vlad the impaler but colin if you
Might want to give a little bit of a cheeky history about vlad because I know you love your history
There's of course, you know, he's the guy who inspired dracula when he
In response to the turkic invasions of europe after they got past the what was left of the byzantine empire
Uh, I believe he impaled 50 like I don't know how many it was a lot of people he put on spikes one is enough
It's significant it was significantly more than one
It's significant. It was significantly more than one
Yikes, yeah, so vlad is um
Was it voivode voivo of romaine or what was it called valakia? Sorry voivo of valakia
Yeah, and uh vlad vlad sorry not vlad wrong setting vlad von karstein is not in this one
Sorry conrad curse takes a lot of inspiration from that historical figure. In fact a lot of the prime marks are kind of
They're obviously historically inspired inspired. Sorry by uh, like the great generals or
Certain motifs or writers or art don't forget his biggest inspiration
Oh, no, where's this going?
batman
That's true. There's a joke within the community. I'll see him being you know, the dark knight essentially, you know justice
I just uh, no, I don't want to see that batman
It's just a shame that he didn't meet one of his brothers and go what's your mommy's name? Oh, my mommy's name is urda
Oh mine's called urda too. We can be friends
No love for conrad and conrad's kind of
Actually, we'll just finish very briefly on him where when he actually meets the emperor
He is overtaken by a vision and tries to claw his own eyes out. So
Corrosion corrodes that corns a very tortured soul. Yeah, when does he is that when does he get the vision of?
of
What will become of him at what point in his life? Does he know what he always saw?
Is it from the very beginning right? Yeah, so
If you're new to warhammer, uh conrad curse was always tortured by the vision of his own death
What an assassin ordered by the emperor so he can see into the future
He can sort of see into the future some of the other primarchs can who are like, uh psychically gifted
so they had like sort of pseudo magic powers and um
he
But this one was involuntary. He didn't choose to like peer into it
It was like kind of torched but he he saw his entire life at multiple points
And so corrodes always believed that fate was set because he was destined to die at that time
But um speaking of another primarch who saw visions of the future
Boys, you saved christmas also on jesus. Thanks jesus
It's time to go to heaven my child
What are you doing? Stop it. Stop it. Cut it out. Yeah, but the vision of this man is glorious indeed
We have sanguineous
keyword
nobility
So this is probably this is the pretty this is giz fulgrimmer run for his money in terms of pretty boys
He's the opposite of conrad basically
pretty much yeah, so sanguineous is
I think he's a lot of people's favorite, uh primarch. He's
as primarch of the blood angels if you're in war if you kind of are new to warhammer and
uh, you'll you'll see why he's kind of eventually so beloved when we do a episode on him but just a brief little bit about
sanguineous himself. So
his story was
Again the gestation capsule it roars out of the warp and he lands on the planet called
Barsecundus which actually is the second moon or funny enough the planet called bar prime
um
and Baal itself is kind of if you imagine mars
But bigger and it's a kind of a red weight. It literally described like the red wastes of Baal
It's a very much a kind of rusty hellscape. It's kind of backstory is that
uh humanity previously did live in like orbital stations above Baal
And then there was a civil war during the age of strife and sort of all this like massive
of metallic shit
They all crashed down and that's the reason why Baal and Barsecundus like full of essentially red dust and
The people who live on Baal
They're not going to have a good time so and i'll explain why so
the
Ninth primarch he lands on Barsecundus itself and
He awakens to this heavily irradiated kind of
Mist and it's like a red like um tornado of dust around him
It's very much a hellscape literally as a death world
and he eventually comes upon uh other humans and these are people who
Are they're like decked out in like radiation gear and it's very
Shocking for him when he first sees people because when they see him
They see this glorious golden child with angel's wings on his back. So uniquely
Amongst all his brothers Sanguinius has wings, which I think is cheating to be honest
It doesn't sound very fair
I mean like all of all the abilities like Perthrabot can see eye of terror at all times and Sanguinius gets wings
Isn't it implied that it might actually be a mutation from Baal?
Like it's it's not clear if it was a gift or it's something that just happened when he was on Baal
It's implied that the it is a mutation that is not natural but it was again
I think the emperor says the emperor's like it's it's acceptable. I think he says if I remember correctly
But um, this is we all know radiation gives you wings
That's like the red bull slogan not like a draggled soul reaver wings. It's like nice beautiful angel. Oh, yeah
Nice actually. Oh cool. I'm gonna go to Baal and get irradiated and I get myself some wings
Doesn't work. Oh
So the people of the fun of the Baalite tribesmen
They actually find him and he actually kills what's called like a rad like a kind of a red
Red rad, sorry rad scorpion sort of creature and he kills it with his bare hands and they see this child and he's like surviving amongst this
Like irradiated like he shouldn't ex
You know a human shouldn't be able to tolerate that but they can obviously see he is special and he's taken in
by the Baalite tribesmen and they very much are
because of
The way they have to survive on this world. They are actually quite a tight knit community area
So in obviously the worlds where you land on shape you quite a lot
I always think about Rogal Dawn's one with sanguineous like Rogal Dawn's one is quite
Icy and so obviously he's quite an icy man
But funny enough even though sanguineous lands in this like hellscape the people of Baal are actually quite loving and they have like
aspects of nobility. There's a kind of
there's an implied
This is very deep lore here, but it's implied like within the warp there are like
Like psychic angels that fight for the soul of Baal
And they actually influence the people who live there who have lived there in the past and who will live there in the future
and so there's a kind of culture of
nobility and art and
expression in this place
but also sanguineous is not just an angel looking innocent boy. He is
an absolute chad of a warrior too. So he leads his people to fight off these mutant hordes. So these are the people who
succumb to radiation and they just basically turn into zombies essentially and
Pretty much and he
he just uh unites the people of Baal as tribes all together and
And he leads them to purge. Yeah funny enough. He's a nice guy
He actually purges the mutant hordes of this place and he managed to sort of bring a sense of
unity and a place where
actually like
People again like kind of similar to Fulgrim on Kemos people didn't live very long on Baal. So actually this is the first time where people
sort of have a time to express themselves and so
um, he is seen as like their glorious leader and he uh,
He's actually famous for his kind of his oratory skills as well. So a lot of the other primarchs are
They're generals. They're warrior kings, but sanguineous is more than that
He's kind of a little he has a little bit of statesman within him. Not as much as some other primarchs
Gilliman
But sanguineous is definitely more than just the symbol of when you look upon him
so as for the aesthetics of
of sanguineous
He is be a beautiful. This is a gorgeous man
he is, uh, literally the pretty nickname the pretty boy in, uh,
Warhammer, he is quite like porcelain like pale skin
I wouldn't even know what culture to describe him as because his look is angelic. He doesn't actually look like a
Singular race like you've got sort of low long flowing kind of blonde hair like noble features
To be honest, i've always associated the blood angels with france
Be honest because they got like the cherubs and the kind of
the the appreciation for art and I feel like he reminds me of some of those like, uh depictions of like old french monarchy
Symbols where they have the long flowing hair and they're like look at me. I'm so pretty
Maybe that's just kind of like louis like the sun king in a way. Yeah
Yeah, little bits a little bit. I think that's probably better than what I was thinking
Because I hadn't I was going to go a bit more of a latin, uh vibe to it. Yeah, but um,
so even like in his like, uh
I said a panellope of war and steal that from eli
Um, so his uh war gear is like extremely like it's like shaped golden armor
He has like a kind of leopard like star pelt around him some of the barlite tries when they lived, uh
In barl now they actually hunt again like there's a theme of like weird creatures hunting
primarchs and um
They can't help themselves. They're like, that's a big meal. I thought unfortunately barl itself is quite at the time mysterious
Although even in the 40th millennium the modern
Timeline is implied that it's kept quite stale as in like the way
So they have like weird, um
Some of the tribes that roam the wastes themselves or some of them live in like weird like carved like sandstone cities
as well, um
But sorry back onto his like war gear. It's very
I would say kind of lat it's a little bit of a latin, um
late like
Venetian kind of influence to it has like a kind of sash going over him. It might be a bit holy roman emperor
Uh vibe to it as well. I'm not sure I don't know colin you might agree
uh, what kind of the I struggle to think of like what the
Best way to sign up his look is honestly, I'd say the best way to sum it up is look up the painting
Having saint michael's killing their dragon or nuts. No, that's not that st. George. Yeah, just look up
Michael the archangel and you'll get a pretty good idea of what sanguineous looks like
even the warhammer model is
Yeah, the warhammer model I think it's actually based on uh, you know this exact painting
Uh, awesome. Yeah, it's like yeah
Yeah, as a fighter as well. It's pretty a lot of the primarchs would admit that they reckon they couldn't beat sanguineous
He's he's arguably the the best at fighting
Even the even the more cocky primarchs are like I can beat anyone. I think it's leban russ is like
Oh, I could kill I could kill I could beat and then he goes sanguineous
He'd give me not sure
Yeah, that he's always the one that regularly is like oh sanguineous. He could turn the tide of battle. Oh, he's strong
He's uh, he's kind of
As much as like fulgum strides perfection. I think sanguineous almost effortlessly
Is there but he's also not doesn't need to strike. He's already got it
as for the as for the personality of sanguineous sanguineous is
There's a reason why he's like a favorite primarch for a lot of people because he's a very noble
Kind of kind-hearted person like when he actually meets the emperor
He actually begs the emperor to like because he knows
What he sanguineous can also actually see sort of visions of the future and he was also funny enough kind of like conrad
plagued by the vision of his death, which he saw at the hands of
Horus which actually would turn out to be one of his closest friends during the great crusade. So
He also dealt with the kind of like inner struggle of the future, but he didn't necessarily
Uh, it didn't damage him internally as much as I think he implies that it's not necessarily
That it's going to happen because there has been a few instances. We saw something and he managed to change the course of history slightly
Yeah, it's also the element of oh I could avert this problem because I can see it coming
He thought there were more like I think dreams to him and he also had a much healthier
Like again, he was he wasn't really raised by a singular father figure. We had like a family unit
So he was raised with love and he had a better way of dealing with it
Shall we say and after you eat rats or people like conrad? Yeah
Conrad, yeah, it doesn't doesn't skin people alive
Um, the first person he see wasn't some guy who saw a toddler walk out of a space bar and go i'm gonna kill that thing
It's yummy
Geez. Yeah, it's a great it's still a grim dark universe
and
well, I think that's why a lot of people like sanguin is because quite like a he's a contrast to what is a very
Grim and you know unforgiving setting the potential of what the universe could be like if it wasn't always at war
Well, funny enough though all of his I guess noble
uh traits there are something
very deeply flawed about sanguinus, which is
inside of him there is a kind of
deep like
Almost to the end of even the horrors area the unspoken rage within him
It's actually one of it's a flaw that even shows within his sons of blood angel. That's why a lot of people find them
particularly interesting because they have a kind of inner
uh darkness to them whereas a lot of the other people have it
it's like worn on their sleeve, but sanguinus it is a
almost it's an insecurity of his, uh
He isn't he knows he's kind of like a he's not a perfect being but he knows he inhabits like virtue
and so he kind of doesn't really enjoy the fact that he is
Uh, he has this kind of deep
Hate within him a little bit, you know a tainting of the darkness in the blood literally is described as and as for his uh inspiration
Unfortunately, this one is not again as deep as a lot of the other stuff. It just means
Sanguis is latin for blood
It literally stolen from the latin obviously there's some biblical inspiration there, but
This one's a little bit more I guess right on the nose unfortunately
But speaking of on the nose, uh, we will finish up here with our last Primarch. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Javanort bitch
Ferus Manus
Keyword iron hands
Yes
Iron hands keyword stubborn
So
The story of Primarch number 10 is he exits the warp
You know the you know the scattering from terror and he lands upon the world called medusa
Funny enough a greco-roman influence has once again shown up
So pattern the world of medusa is kind of like everything but in grayscale
It sucks. Um, it is just feel like you know black rocks and it's just the skies are dark and grim
Nothing none of the life that grows on this world is particularly
Interesting. I think they even said I i've been reading one of the books where it says what do they do for food on medusa?
and they
Like have like this weird mollusk that they grind up into like a black paste and that's considered the best food they have
it takes and so this is a world of just
Described in one word brutal. It's so unforgiving
It's not even a death world in the same sense
The some of the other planets are where like it's actually trying to kill you
It's just there's nothing that helps you on medusa. It's nothing personal. It just sucks
It just sucks. It just sucks that you die of boredom and uh ferris manus
Well, he would not call ferris manus. Yeah, excuse me. So the primarch number 10
uh, he lands upon this world and
He's kind of he's alone. He grows up, uh initially like
Very much by himself doesn't see other humans, but even as a youngster
It gets worse because he was set upon in his story. It's almost like kind of myth here
He's set upon by something called the the great silver worm
Azirnoth, I don't know if i'm saying that properly. Azirnoth I think yeah. Azirnoth and
Sounds kind of necron tier. So
Oh, yeah, we will and uh, so as a young primarch he's actually immediately attacked by this
Immediately attacked by this even in the myths of the people who live on this world
They describe like the silver kind of beast the silver worm
or the silver dragon and there's actually a there's actually a duel which kind of is a
Defining moment shall we say so primarch number 10 is immediately almost killed and he eventually battles this
Worm he doesn't know any you know, he doesn't even speak at this point
But he's already he knows how to fight because in his dna and he drowns the silver worm in
uh a flow of lava that comes from one of the volcanoes on medusa and
actually fun enough melts this great silver worm and it starts to like um
Sort of flow over his arms. It's always the point where it's like near his shoulders like sort of mid-bicep
and
these kind of uh
This actual trait is what then sort of earns him the name ferris manus
Which funny enough means kind of iron hand in latin or the inspiration part's done now
but so he is the iron handed primarch and ferris himself is
The word stubborn doesn't even cut it. He is just um
Blunt he is blunt is perfect. Yeah blunt is his kind of way. He's very much
A lead from the front kind of person. He's he is super headstrong
And this is partly because even though he did eventually find humanity like the people who lived upon this world
They were semi-technically there. I'll struggle with that word semi-technologically advanced
the people of medusa are like a they had their own like clan system and the
Great clans, they were like great clans and minor clans and they were all
and they were all warring for dominance. It's kind of similar to uh, purjurabo's world, but
It's actually a little bit more vicious. This was there wasn't politics involved in this
There were no there wasn't espionage or secrets or anything like that. This was robbers had wine and grapes and yeah
Medusa had iron and war they had dirt and blood essentially and so
The entire world was a constant state of war
and this is when ferris manor showed up and
As you would probably guess from this person. He was no fulgrum. There was no diplomacy
Someone who was this headstrong and had to battle like straight away
Only knew one method and that was essentially combat
And so he
Crushed literally under his iron fist. He actually crushed them into submission the people of medusa
But kind of uniquely amongst his uh brothers
A lot of them might unite the world and it's like an age of peace, but ferris himself always saw
He can even see it from his earliest
Existence he just sees peace as a weakness because he always thinks he almost died like immediately
It seems he was essentially conscious. So he always sees himself as um need to improve himself be stronger
You know survive live, you know adapt. Yeah, like struggle brings growth. Look at me. I got some iron hands
I got some iron hands. Yes. Yeah, and he um
Yeah, so he the clans of medusa themselves. He actually doesn't unite the clans
He keeps the system intact and he kind of acts as this kind of overseer of the world where
He is a uniting force at times but then in times of peace
He will let the inter-clan struggles reunite again because it keeps him strong. It keeps the people on survival mode
and this is kind of uh his
His tactic and his philosophy in the world, but also
kind of the other thing about places where war happens obviously war also will breed innovation and
Medusa itself was I wouldn't say it's not a forge world
I described in much of warhammer, but forging crafting
The metallurgy of the yeah, it's very much industrious and even ferris within himself
He actually had like of an innate ability to craft and produce things. He could actually
I think it's even funny said like vulcan another primarch. He says it's unnerving that ferris with his iron hands
I like kind of mold. They're like molten silver arms
Well, even where he grew up in his little cave area
It's it's basically like a buried necron tomb and he grew up observing. What is this drop pod thing? That's weird
What's this metal that's weird and he grew up trying to understand it all
And he the unnerving part about him is he can forge with his hands like a lot with a hammer
and um
So he he learns to build and craft but a lot of the times
Like whereas some might say, you know blacksmithing and crafting is an art form, which obviously it is
His crafting was always functional. It was in the pursuit of strength and improvement
And though not all the thing he not everything he made was ugly. It was always designed to be
be functional and you know function of a form essentially
and
The way so if you were to sort of see uh ferris manus himself his aesthetics again number one enormous
huge tanky
uh, he's kind of
I wouldn't say he's the chunkiest of all the primarchs, but he kind of rivals poterabo obviously both of them having a
Sort of thing for the word iron definitely not the prettiest. I'll get to that where so he's got slightly slightly tan skin
uh again like greco kind of
uh european features
silver arms, uh, that's from his battle with the worm is one of his most defining
sort of characteristics and
Ferris was not described as a beautiful man. He was nicknamed by fulgrum the gorgon
as like but it's actually a quite funny inside joke between them, but he is uh,
Even like even his face is it's a brutal
design
Uh there again, I know it's form over function, you know, you do this face. He's been like punched a hundred times
Yeah, he's almost I think they like even they describe he's a beautiful in his own strange way of being like just the most
uh exact
Form if you know, his face was the form of what it looked like he'd been chilled
So just like around and becomes beautiful. Yeah, essentially like it's a hard way to describe it, but essentially comes back around
like a pug
And that even his war gear is like bulky and he is it's again it projects strength and
Uh, his personality is as I said earlier, it's stubborn
He's extremely stubborn compared to a lot of his brothers and he's quite hot-headed at times, but
he also
I know hot-headed um spoilers, um, but he's also
So weirdly enough he has a pursuit of kind of like fulgrum of perfection itself, but in a different view of that
So he wishes to be perfect to be
the strongest being
He wishes to be perfect because not because he wishes to be perfect itself
But because he despises the opposite which is weakness because weakness could get you killed
It's like perfect in function not aesthetic very much
So and like even when he meets his story of when he meets the emperor because he actually meet he's the
With third or fourth, I think primarch found when he meets before I think he because it will be
time as lehman about the same time as lehman and when he actually meets the emperor he
challenges the emperor to a fight and
Uh, this is that this is the time where he's been the strongest thing on that planet
For a while and the idea of when he meets the emperor and there's a being much stronger than him
It's actually something where he sorry. It's actually something which drives him
Uh to be even stronger the reason he actually in his own heart improves to be so strong and to be perfect
It's one day he actually wants to challenge the emperor but not in a way like he wants to be emperor
He just wants to be as strong as the emperor
I like the uh, the the meme from kung fu panda. It's like finally a worthy opponent our battle shall be legendary
Me pretty much he's did the hit what it wasn't like a dragon ball z battle like they were just
Punching mountain ranges in half pretty much
Oh good old dragon boy. Unfortunately, he has no drip. Um
It's all function no drip no risk he can't turn blonde and become 50 times as powerful either that
He is like if you saw sanguineous and then uh ferris you'd be like wait those two are brothers like that's
Just it's like what's the film with like arnold schwarzenegger and uh,
Danny davito and they're meant to be brothers
so our film
um very much so apart from
Danny davito is the same height as arnold which is amazing in my mind. I was imagining him coming out the couch and um always sunny
Everyone knows that scene
and obviously lastly the inspiration for ferris is
Latin for iron hand. It's again very on the nose on this one
But it kind of is an encompassing thing for them the iron hand to themselves is you know iron is
Immute to them is like it's immutable. It's an iron fist of will its strength and
That's pretty much I think the first 10
Primarchs they won't have any questions or want to comment perhaps on their favorite out of the list
I like the pretty one
We're going to order so Eli Eli, who's your who's your favorite so still full room
Of course, of course, just you know, would you explain why?
Why is full groom your favorite and any of ever asked probably because uh, I read the book full groom first
Fair enough likely the reason I also just like his story a lot and he has the saddest story of all the primarchs
first loves
Yeah, I think it's cool. It's cool that he's one of the only ones that has some regrets about it all
but just like specifically with all right, well like
I don't want to also also pretty fall full groom was like
There's a lot of good reasons to like him. I think
Just uh without spoilers regrets over what he did to a certain person that he kept trying to clone that certain person
And it never works, but he doesn't give up. It's like it's very sad very
Compelling. What about uh, what about you andy? Who's your favorite so far?
Without a doubt jagatai. He's my favorite. He always has been speedway. Why is your favorite?
for sure, um, there's there's several reasons one because he's amazing at one liners, but um,
I like how he is the most um
He's very critical of things that are objectively wrong in the universe like some of the decisions the emperor makes
He's he he shows restraint when other primarchs don't he doesn't boast but he's competent. He's a very
He's a very he's very much. Um a difficult primarch to like people go
I just some dude but when you actually like look into his stories and his books I find him the most compelling
I do like other ones like I like I like gilliman. I like the lion to an extent
But you know, i'm a loyalist fan more than any and khan is the one for me
Awesome, and you colin who's your favorite so far of the first 10?
Probably honestly liam, uh, I don't like the wolves, but I do like liam a lot. He's uh, he's pretty down to earth
he seems in many ways one of the most human primarchs because
Yeah, I don't know. He like he seems like the kind of guy I could have a drink with
I would not remember any of that
But like it just seems like like just like a guy he'd be fun to hang out with
He's nice contrast as well compared to a lot of them are essentially just
Like greco-roman warlords. So he's a nice little extra flavor
I wish his legion was actually vikings and not just viking cosplayers
Less of wolves more vikings
Well, uh, thank you so much for listening. We covered a lot, uh today
What's funny enough is actually just a taster of what is to come from all the primarchs and we will obviously delve into
each of them
uh and their histories and
It's again there, you know primarchs are definitely sort of the best part of warhammer. They are deeply
flawed human despite their elevation and
We'll be learning a lot more about them in the uh episodes to come
Uh, thank you so much for listening for enduring
That's what we say
Enduring this uh absolute
Fest and colin who who will be tackling next?
Happily, I will let them know. So of course we're going to bring, you know, their primarch up kind of hard not to
Robutei gilliman, but the focus will not be on him. It will be on his legion later chapter
The greatest of them all the ultramarines
Oh
Not
I love my
Uh matt ward aside, I love my i'm leaving a picture of matt ward at the end of this podcast
That's the final picture. Did you know he wrote the dialogue for vermintide?
What?
Yeah, honestly
Didn't he write the demon kid arbor as well? I don't know that's neil graham
I think battle fleet gothic too
So it turns out he's a pretty goddamn good writer when he's just writing dialogue
Just don't put him in charge of the setting just don't put any armor that's blue near him
Or gray or gray or the gray knights as well. Yeah
Well, thank you so much for listening. Uh, please like and subscribe if you want to hear more
Uh also comment below out of your list so far, which one's your favorite?
we'd love to know your reasons why particularly because
I've all got like our own reasons like sometimes it's you know, it's our own like relation to that person
And like I said, you know having a beer with a good old leman russe, but uh, thank you so much for listening
And we'll see you all next time
I'll be back here if you want
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