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Epic stuff. Yes before we start I just want to say Horace's special power is Riz. I have to say

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Does anyone else agree with that before we start?

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Hundred percent I'm editing this as well as I have to edit a picture with Horace's eyebrow raised and his like chin more chad

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Oh man, Louise. I know what have I done so

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When the Emperor hits you up with that dollar store sword

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Man I'm hearing that. I was like themed to Sin City isn't it? I can't play it for copyright reasons

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I'm just hearing that. I'm gonna be like this is it. And as Horace is like you know your warm-ass stern is just in Sin City. Okay.

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Hello law criminals, I am Hal the Amber King and I'm here to ask the question of the week

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Golden Throne?

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Wrong answers only you can put in the description

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Hashtag safe and along with your funny comment and we'll all read it out

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Have a little bit of a laugh and a giggle and we will talk about it on next week's episode as now on with a video

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Hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to law crimes today

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We're discussing more on the timeline of 40k and we're doing something a little bit different today where we will be discussing

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The prior marks now, we're not going to be discussing all of them today

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But I will hand it over to how where he will be able to run us through with what we're actually going to be talking

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About in detail. So up to you how yes

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So today will be a look at the the glorious the Chad's the the money makers

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Shall we say in Warhammer and we'll be going over the first ten prime marks?

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Obviously, we will do the rest later, but we want to give a bit of a flavor shall we say of these?

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I don't know if the giga Chad's is the right word

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But they are like the the biggest drawer I'd say for Warhammer

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So if you have the giga Chad's the Chad's of the giga Chad's they are literally that mean but even more square jaw like

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Minecraft Minecraft your has a jewel

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The gig is no the off I can't I can't get the word out. I'm thinking of a quagmire

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So yesterday will be doing the good old Primark's and I'll

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Take it away

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This will be a very quick beginner section because I don't want to take too much away from what how's already gonna be saying

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So basically the Primarks as you said are the giga Chad

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genetically engineered demigod sons of the Emperor himself, which he created

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around the 30th Millennium he created them to aid in his great crusade, but before that the unification wars even

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Unfortunately for him. They did not really stick around for the unification wars because the powers of chaos or

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Yeah, she literally took the kids in the divorce papers and there was a big mess for the Emperor

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I'm just gathered she scattered the Primarks because she saw

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the Emperor becoming this

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You know dictatorial war obsessed guy, which to me what else do you think you're creating these 20?

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Super-soldier warriors for but whatever

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To be fair. He's not a great dad either, but I don't think tossing them in the hell was the right

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Out with the bath water, but that's taking it to a new level

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using him and Erda's DNA to create these like

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Almost godlike beings demigods basically

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They are faster and stronger and taller and bigger and better than a regular space marine in a million different ways

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Things like that, but they were all scattered throughout the galaxy and each landed on their different planets

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Describe them in a bit more detail. We have first legion to 10th legion going from lion

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Epic stuff. Yes before we start. I just want to say Horace's special power is Riz. I have to say that

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100% I'm editing this as well as I have to edit a picture with Horace's eyebrow raised and his like chin more chad

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Oh man Louise. I know what have I done? So

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I am not and as Horace is like, you know your war master and it's just in Sin City. Okay

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It is as I said earlier the best part about warhammer law day. It's a special day

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This is arguably the best topic for any podcast. So

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Really imperative to know what is a Primarch probably the first question that should be asked. So

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As Eli said earlier the Primarchs are these like superhuman demigod figures that were created by the emperor of mankind

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Or also known as Neoth, Gary

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Don't know mysterious figure. It's all Goku Goku Goku with a drip

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I have to end that here dammit

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There's an emperor drip picture

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You can definitely I looked up hooded emperor from my Lehman Ross video

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Uh a new they're for a new golden era shall we say and the genetic components that made up these Primarchs

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Immediately a second later comes back into real space and he is the emperor figure. He's like super powerful

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I might be wrong on that to be fair, but a little bit of PTSD thrown in just for good measure as well

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Just just a hint. Oh no

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A bit of spice just a spice like a little salt bay

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A little sprinkle if the emperor's mind was like, you know, like super high-end restaurants where they have loads like really tiny dishes

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He's like the little scoop of like the teaspoon of sauce on PTSD

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That's a weird acronym. Excuse me

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very much a mysterious figure and we don't necessarily know all his intentions, but we do know at this

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Uh the other perpetual called urda. No, no funny business there or a gene lab. I swear

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Nothing crazy and this is where they

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Slight warning here. There's some slight speculation that I might ask if the rest of you guys if you maybe agree

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Aroman talking to magnus and he's saying about how he had to really concentrate on not kneeling as soon as he met him

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Yeah, there's something there is something a little bit. There's there's an extra source added to them. That's a bit mysterious and

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It's perhaps I speculate here. It's also why there weren't more than 20 primarchs made and slight spoilers

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There's something special about uh, each of their souls. I feel do you guys agree with that? I'm not really that that's a little bit

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He is you couldn't get much more

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Elemental forces imbued with a human soul to an extent there's something mythological to their nature in a way

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I don't know if that encompasses it correctly, but there is something like said like speed or like traits and there's something

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What do you do with children

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Uh, a family gathering is a nightmare

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Whipsaw oh look at that spiral. Wow, that's my baby

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That's an image, um, I can't believe I have to edit that in

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If the the bears could use your talent

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I say who are the bears they could use any talent. Oh

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This chicago football team that was one of the six first ones and is absolutely garbage

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And they played football with their hands, you know

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Yeah football. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great way to discuss that another time

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Uh, because we had the lot whether talk a lot about primates, but the english football is the correct football

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Deep in like sort of vaults of terror

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Under layers and layers in like the most secure places under the emperor of mankind's kind of watchful eye

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the primarchs and their gestation capsules are like ripped from

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There's a there's a lot of mystery. There's some

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Early on in the horrors heresy books. It was the chaos gods that were responsible for this

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There's a certain the truth of it is kind of a little bit after interpretation

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But isn't there also a bit where like some word bearers go back in time and they're kind of in a weird

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They're they they observe like the laboratory and they're not really there

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But they're just observing and they kind of see the the opening stages of that. It's like it's all very all over the place

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Through that book, uh for if you are new to warhammer

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This is implied that some space marines during the great crusade are actually responsible for the scattering of the primarchs as they start to learn about

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Chaos, but I actually think in my own personal opinion

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That was a lie and it's actually a vision

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Like shown to them to help them turn to chaos. I don't think that actually happened mirage kind of like uh,

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I guess it'd be spoilers for horrors. So i'll keep my mouth shut actually

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Not spoilers, but like what they showed him

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Kind of yeah, so it was a future in which like may or may not have happened or it was a possible sort of event

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But so the primarchs themselves all twented them in the little cute. I don't say cute pods. It's not really cute

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Warded pods they're ripped and they are thrown into the warp the realm of madness the kind of

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reflective mirror dimension within warhammer where basically nothing kind of

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If something good comes from the warp it has like a little like there's always something bad with it

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It's kind of like marmite, you know, I mean you either they're like oh, yeah, he's it

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And so today we'll be covering the first 10 primarchs and their kind of story about

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Where they landed and a little bit more about how their homeworlds kind of forged them. Uh, we won't be going into

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We're essentially going to end at the point that where they will meet the emperor because this is about uh,

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sort of their early

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Life, shall we say so good evening? Go back to your own country. What the fuck did you just say? Am I devious?

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Yes, I think I am she speaks the bullshit

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First one out the gate as elia mentioned earlier. We're starting with

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Perhaps the most handsome chad in all of the setting we have the lion lion l. Johnson

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keyword loyalty

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He's he actually I think he's pretty cool to be honest. I only learned about him more recently and I think

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competent primarch. It's a bit refreshing thinking after very much so so

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Tim and gilliman

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Oh, well at the which one is more competent. That's the bigger question. Oh, which one of them is awake?

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You got you got me there, yeah

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I can't repeat that. So the story of the lion is

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So at the time he's the first primarch. So he's he's subject number one

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so he lands on the forest world called caliban

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and uniquely to a lot of the fate of the other primarchs he

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Was alone so he landed like he rocked it in and he landed deep inside the remote jungles of caliban

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And let's just say caliban

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Not the friendliest. It's not the fresh prince of bella. It's labeled as a death world

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Yeah, it's definitely the beginning of the first primarch

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Death world. Yeah, it's definitely the beginning of the fresh prince fresh prince bella but in reverse he goes to the to the worst

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This is it's all about my pot crash down

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Yeah, this is a that that's a I can't believe I brought that reference. That's not even in my notes

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So he lands on this

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world and the forest itself is

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Really like monstrous and creepy kind of it uses the word specifically tainted creatures. It's a very

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Forest is the nice word, but it for it is a nightmare of a forest

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Let's just say it's not a pleasant place to like live

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And he actually spends the first decade of his life completely alone

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He's essentially a feral beast. He's in the wild like hunting and eating by himself. He he's a hardcore karzan pretty much

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He's like bear gorillas, but the real like hardcore

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the actual program the real bear gorillas and

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This sort of again, I said I'd continue for a decade until he

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meets a human

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So one day the humans of the world they actually

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Find this there's a story

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Uh of how the first primarch is found by the humans and they find him like this injured little creature

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It's like full of mud and he's

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Just like they think he's like a disgusting like another one of the beasts, but they actually to their shock

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It was a human being and obviously not just a human being an enormous kind of slightly quite

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Enormous human being it's like a big proportion. They they did they did and

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This was found by the man named luther. He's very important to the lion's uh story himself spoiler

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He's called the lion

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a human who is part of the knightly orders of caliban so caliban itself is a

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Semi-techno semi-technologically us a bit of a mouthful there semi-technologically advanced feudal type world so they have a kind of

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I guess like best place a feudal system. There's like serfdom and things like that. Did you have some advanced technology?

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They have like mentioned like power armor and things like that

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But again, they kind of they follow like a very old

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old doctrine shall we say and luther is actually the

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Who takes the the first primarch in and he names him lion l johnson

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This is where he gets his name the lion

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He sort of is guided. He's nurtured by luther

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he essentially grows up in a

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Uh, like in our own world like a holy order of knights essentially that's like the lion's upbringing

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It's very much just martial by raised by like the teutonic knights or something essentially. Yeah, very much a kind of

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I wouldn't say a normal human existence, but

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That's that's too far

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but he has like a very different kind of upbringing and

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I think like when we were actually talking about this elia mentioned a really funny tidbit

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He mentioned how when luther first saw him the primarch filled him with more dread than any other monster

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leader because that just shows you that when you do see a primarch they are actually properly intimidating and

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They're not no, you know, it's not just a big human. It's actually like oh this thing could like break me in half

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and the lion growing up he

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I mean he was exceptional primarchs themselves can learn that I said earlier that they're stronger faster smarter. He picked up

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language like super quickly and

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He eventually became the leader of all the various

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Knightly orders of caliban they all unites under his leadership

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And they enact today I put quote unquote crusade to purge the there's a certain theme of crusade

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Sorry saying more hammer like son

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So he has a crusade to purge the monstrous beasts of caliban once and for all

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And when they finally completed this purge of these

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Alien beasts with the lion sort of leading the charge and him, you know trains all his life essentially as a soldier

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He they finally do it and that's when the big e shall we say big emperor big chatty daddy

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arrives

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And just a sort of small

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description kind of what the lion

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Is I think I said to Eli as well like I'm listening to major kills videos and he said

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He thought the lion was a was black and then I thought that the sake for longest time too because they don't actually like

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Often tell you the description of certain characters in wal-hamas

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I thought I'd give a little bit of like a kind of rendition just to visualize him if you are an uh audio listener

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So first trait he's enormous. He's huge

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He's actually quite fair skinned. He's I think you said it early earlier and like sort of a king Arthur looking figures

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Arthurian legend in warhammer, basically very much. So they have a

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Like and his war gear as well because I thought there's no way you can't mention a primal to war gear

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So here's a very much a templar slash eastern european like tectonic

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Order vibe. Thank you colin for that mention. I do like how the residents of caliban can make power armor, but they haven't figured out light bulbs

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It's like amazing

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priorities

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And you can think europa universalis

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Thank you. Europa universalis for for making me think of it

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I've been playing that too much. I love that game and so for the lion himself

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He his personality is a

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Commanding quiet. He's very reserved like a regal type figure. Many people have often said like he's quite

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Emperor like himself. He's very much a I wouldn't say politics is not the right word, but I guess a warrior king

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Sort of a vibe to him

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he was actually

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Amongst even all of the other primarchs. He's a brilliant tactician and commander but

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Uh, he has terrible people skills

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He he often is often safe that he actually doesn't read other humans very well

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It's probably maybe because of his upbringing being alone for so long

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Yeah killing massive beasts with your bare hands when you're like one year old like probably does that to you a little bit

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And like even then it's say to like luther his like his father figure

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like he often had like step in and to help be his like orator his like, uh,

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Kind of wingman shall we say because he was just wasn't you know, speeches aren't really for the lion

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And I thought a little a little bit of uh, extra spice to this video. I thought we interesting to know where the real world

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Uh historical inspiration comes for some of these primarch figures. So

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Lionel johnson's name

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Actually comes from the uh, english poet lionel johnson. Not very subtle there

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There's not a lot of subtle reference in wallhammer and he is the author of the poem called the dark angel

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Uh, if anyone wants a little bit of reference to that, it's the dark angel poem is about the man being a

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closeted man, uh, shall we say and uh

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He very much sort of speaks about this dark secret

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He's hiding and if anyone knows anything about dark angels secrets are kind of their

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Five I should have put a keyword secrets for the lion actually would have been better

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And uh, so that's the lion shall we say and

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Oh, go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. So it wasn't didn't him and him and oscar wild were

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very close, uh

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I would have to I have to look more into that myself. I only know in reference to uh, the poet lionel johnson there

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But it might have been true might be true if anyone isn't interested in that, uh, definitely look it up because it's obviously history's really cool

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We were all wallhammer fans. We probably all leave the games. We'll plagiarize anything without any shame

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No shame whatsoever. Just look at the empire of man the holy roman empire with the serial members filed on

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Wow, it's like it's like copying someone's homework, but you're just so blatant it's like poetry they rhyme

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Oh, oh george lucas george lucas. I remember that now and so now we move on to primark number two

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We made this one up. It's a made-up tale. It's a total fabrication. It never happened

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It never happened. This one was invented by a writer not this time

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Redacted this one is missing. So this is a interesting part of wallhammer law where

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Second and spoilers the 11th primark are known as the forgotten and the purged

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As we know within wallhammer history all

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Imperial records have been expunged. They are if you want to know dark souls law, it's like the um

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firstborn son of gwyn yeah. Yeah, that's a cool reference there and uh,

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Literally, he's they are

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Oh, yeah

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That was pretty I enjoyed that they finally got that in the last game

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So he the second primark is completely missing from imperial history. We have very few moments of like

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They give us hints throughout the wallhammer law, but they're very much a an intentional mystery

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Uh left within the universe. I have found like some notes. There is a reference which I think fulgrim

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Uh, the third primark makes which is that these he remarks that his second brother

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Uh was a had a personality of being quiet and contemplative. That's kind of

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What we mostly know

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Uh, I do have a theory myself that he might be the forgotten part of the forgotten in the purged, uh

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Area, he's uh, he's like he says he's humorless as well. Like he's a very straight-faced kind of guy, right?

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Definitely, I remember correctly something. I mean today this will definitely cover the missing primarks in there

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I think they're they're enough to be I mean his own episode because there's such a interesting mystery

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But do you guys have any thoughts or speculations about the missing primarks? I think you might

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Do you have any idea about I think there was some reference to where we think they might have gone missing or what?

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Conflicting that or did you have any like thoughts you might want to share?

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Uh, I don't

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It's not I guess that's strictly about the them, but I know

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There's the rainbow from old like rogue trader when it was first coming out

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When we knew all 20 of the legions

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I know one of them was the rainbow warriors and wasn't another the vindicators or something like that

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I thought god really old lord holy freak. I'm glad they didn't put rainbow warriors because that just seems like

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Found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow

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To be sure they actually look pretty cool they were I think they were supposed like aztec themed space marines

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Have to say now that plumage I'd say now like the

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One that does have like even though it's definitely like copy your own homework and there's a lot of like cool

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Repetition is like myths of like our own history like coming up

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Within the warhammer says like sort of history itself repeating

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I often find like we could we could use a little bit more flavor in terms of like cultures we draw from in certain

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Areas because a lot of it is just very much. It's either greco-roman or you might notice a theme is either greco-roman or

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Greco-roman, so yeah

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And sometimes a little bit of gothic like the architecture a little bit of gothic too

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But uh, so that was the second prime mark and i'll now hand over to elide to talk about our our glorious

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Perhaps top three prime marks ever

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Yeah, take it away for the next primal

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The prettiest boy the most beautiful fellow don't have me sinquineus

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It's fulgrum himself us

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I should have asked earlier. Are we talking about past the big no-no time or are we just keeping to before the big oopsie?

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We can keep to before the big and boy, uh, you know good old kimos a bit

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Also, i'll say here as well a key word for fulgrum perfection

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before the lorg are let down

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Yeah, that's a funny way to put it

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So yes fulgrum

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Uh descended upon this planet called kimos and the planet of kimos

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Was also a death world not quite like caliban though. There weren't any monsters on it

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It was just this barren

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Awful place where the resources were dwindling they had old tech that barely worked

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so the population had to work day and night with uh,

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With literally no free time. It was rare to work. It was rare to live past the age of 30

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Um, they had to just work constantly because if they stopped working they wouldn't be able to eat

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They wouldn't have the resources that they need to survive because their machines were just so inefficient and they didn't make things

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Well enough for the population to have any time off of work

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Oof and he would have been gone by now

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Chopping block

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I was wondering was that a personal insult? Was that just because i'm the oldest?

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No, no, no, because they literally you wouldn't have made it past them

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Yeah, i'm asthmatic as well. So like is like a mining world

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Like 10 working in mines and resource resource producer thingies. Um

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My lazy ass would have died well before andy

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But basically this uh, this pod comes down from the heavens and

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makes this big scene and the scouts see it and then some guy comes out and um,

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Um, they find this beautiful baby with purple eyes who is akin to an angel from the heavens and they think it's a sign of some sort and

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in

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Something that never happens on quemos ever

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he was volunteered to be taken in as an orphan because

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Obviously on a planet with no resources. They just get rid of orphans and they're not allowed to really exist at all

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Um, but this man took

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Hmm, I always speculated that this is a bit dark because it's obviously a grim dark universe

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That the orphans get put in the resource machines. Yeah, you know what I mean?

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Yeah, that makes that would make sense. Honestly star chest to come from somewhere. That's right. That's right

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Is it veal or it's like baby cows? It's like the equivalent of that for humans. Oh my gosh

437
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,840
It tastes like depression

438
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,840
Oh

439
00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:00,760
So so they take they take fulgrum in and he grows quickly obviously like all the other prime marks, uh, but he's

440
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,600
He's just a guy so he goes and works in the mines with him. He starts

441
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,920
He starts at the very bottom, which is a really cool part about fulgrum stories

442
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,320
He starts at the very bottom and he goes to the very top

443
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Um, but he starts working in the mines. He's way stronger and way better than everyone at it literally everything because he's the perfect

444
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600
being to ever live

445
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080
and so he's able to

446
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:29,080
Put a lot more work in than the others and he's also a technological genius and he's very good at forging

447
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880
And creating things so he starts to improve upon

448
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,760
their resource production machines and ever so slowly the people in his area start to actually

449
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:47,800
Uh have a net gain of resources which has never been seen before and eventually fulgrum works his way up to the very top of society

450
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,160
And starts traveling around the world with teams of engineers to improve everything

451
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,480
And the world all of a sudden transforming into this beautiful lush

452
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,680
ripe place with actual nature and not just desecrated horrible land and

453
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:10,440
Eventually fulgrum becomes the planetary governor of the whole place without a single drop of blood shed much different than

454
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:17,640
A lot of other primarch. I think I think he's the only primarch that unites his world through diplomacy. Doesn't he? He's the only one

455
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,000
Gilman did didn't he? I don't know. There was there was a few wars lots of fighting. Oh there was yeah

456
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,320
I just like the idea that sorry

457
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,800
Obviously is Gilman the eighth right?

458
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,440
So we're 13th primarch. Oh

459
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,720
Oh, I'm thinking when he was found. He's the eighth found I think. Yeah. Yeah, pardon me. Uh, then I uh

460
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,720
Uh, then I uh

461
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,800
It was a little bit of diplomacy with him a little bit of work a little bit everything

462
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,400
Yeah, I just like the idea that when fulgrum actually got like his inaugural speech where it's like what would you like to say?

463
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,480
To your people now, you know, he's just went

464
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Start from the bottom now. We're here and that was it

465
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,320
Mike

466
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,200
but

467
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,280
but yes, uh now that fulgrum had

468
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Kind of like reclaimed this planet and fixed it his population had time to pursue the arts

469
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,080
And have leisurely time in general and he became very

470
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:11,480
prideful

471
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,320
Of these people and very proud not prideful in a bad way. He was still his

472
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Intentions were really good. He was very obsessed with perfection, but not the point of like breaking your minds

473
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,800
He was he wanted perfection and to better himself so that he could better other people

474
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,040
And he was a very noble man and a great leader and a great person in general

475
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:39,000
Um, and that will change very much in the next 10 000 years, unfortunately, but he started off as one of the most pure

476
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,400
And perfect beings that the emperor had ever created. Um

477
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Should I go a little a little farther? I was gonna say I was gonna say you can tell it's elias favorite

478
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Uh

479
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,000
Well, I think we'll keep it we'll keep it just before he meets the uh

480
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,960
Meets the uh, just up to the point where he meets the emperor, I guess and then we'll well that's this point

481
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:08,680
Then he meets the emperor and he kneels he kneels to the emperor and sees that he is the perfect being and that

482
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,160
He goes with the emperor with no arguments

483
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,800
Uh, no challenges are required and no

484
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000
Uh holes to jump through or hoops to jump through I mean

485
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Which is nice his uh real world inspiration

486
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,280
Maybe comes from the latin word folger, which means lightning

487
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Um, and his nickname is the phonetian which will come in. I think he gets later, uh, which is

488
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:32,840
reference

489
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,980
Probably you would think to the culture of the phonetians

490
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,440
That he's all folgerman his legions all about purple as well

491
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,560
Their armor is purple and I know purple is a very regal color obviously in the word

492
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:49,560
phonetian means purple country they traded purple dye

493
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,360
With people. Yeah, he's very

494
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Yeah, colin you're a you're a history boy. Yeah, he knows way more about this. Yeah, you might know

495
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
You might know a bit more about the phonetians

496
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,160
Uh, they were the phonetians were

497
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,000
The so if you know carthage, you know roman history

498
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Oh, yeah

499
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,820
Carthage was a initially a colony of the phonetians

500
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,560
Uh that grew so big that they kind of became their own little empire and they were aside from rome

501
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
They were one of the dominant powers in the mediterranean

502
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,640
union and then rome

503
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:23,720
uh proceeded to

504
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,500
Unexist carthage very hard

505
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,720
To be fair it did uh, it was over the course of three wars and if you guys know hannibal barka the guy who walked

506
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,760
out of the elps. Yeah, the punic wars they uh,

507
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:42,680
Uh pretty much one of the only opponents rome faced at least in its early history

508
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,480
that really

509
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Like rivaled them like rivals. Yeah, like rivaled them like they they plenty of people gave them good fights

510
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,640
But as an empire carthage was one of the only people that well as maybe not they weren't the empire yet

511
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,360
But they were one of the toughest opponents rome had to face

512
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,520
So the so fulgrim's a nice little uh cheeky nod to them

513
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:10,600
A little a little bit of language lessons. Also, I believe in swedish

514
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,640
Ful means ugly and grim is ugly in day nets

515
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Ugly ugly

516
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,360
Eli is not a fan

517
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,120
Just a last little bit on fulgrim as well. Uh, can you describe eli his

518
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,680
General like aesthetics as well just for someone who doesn't really know fulgrim

519
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:41,560
Um, yes. Well, he's very pretty first of all thanks inguinious, but he's uh, he's naturally beautiful

520
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,840
He doesn't need any of the wings and you know makeup and whatever

521
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:47,720
Do you think his wings are like

522
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,200
Thank you, this is lovely he's so pretty inguinious is an is an angelic being he's not

523
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,320
It's not it's not the same thing

524
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,880
Fulgrim is all natural, baby. There's a really cool moment. He's had some work done

525
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:09,880
A little a little bit a little touch up. There's a cool moment. Uh, just with just for the cows of nikea in warhammer where

526
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,760
magnus the red the primarch he's

527
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,400
entering into like the kind of

528
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:23,160
Counter chambers and he actually sees fog it's described as fulgrim and sangoni his arm in arm laughing together approaching and I just imagined like

529
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,760
If you're a mortal human seeing that scene, you'd actually die

530
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,520
Because that would be amazing

531
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,880
Yeah, fulgrim had a lot of good relationships with his brothers for quite a while, but he uh

532
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,800
Yeah

533
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,800
That doesn't end well

534
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,280
I disagree that he's perfect

535
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:50,760
Yeah, well, you also interpretation perfect being in warhammer call friends like car franz sigma. It's snorri nose biter. Yeah

536
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,080
And I can look at all his better voice

537
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,720
I need some snorri voice land soon

538
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,440
All right, because I thought of snorri sorry

539
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,900
Depresio the the uh, he wears the gilded panapoli

540
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,940
Uh, I think I said that right and it's just uh, panellope panellope

541
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,720
Basically, this is very intricate

542
00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:20,680
Mastercrafted purple artificer armor with gold and jewels and it's like

543
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Yeah, it's very he's very blingy. It's very very pretty he has long flowing white hair

544
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,920
It's all beautiful. He's like l'oreal mixed with gucci. That's

545
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Perfectly describes him. Oh, he wears the red cape and everything. It's got the the eagle on his shoulder pad

546
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:46,360
And he wields or used to wield a sword called firebrand which is like was like an ever

547
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,640
blazing sword kind of like the emperor's sword, but

548
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,360
but

549
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,280
smaller, I guess

550
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,760
Well, we've had a we had pretty boys here though, but i'm so sorry that we have to now talk about something a bit more

551
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:04,520
Uglier, shall we say so we're gonna talk about I have to understand be honest. So

552
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,960
Dude, what's all that stuff? You're grabbing tools

553
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,880
tools

554
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Duct tape zip ties and gloves. I have to have my tools. We now move on to the fourth prime mark. So this is

555
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,160
is perturabo

556
00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:21,220
keyword iron

557
00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:24,380
so the story of the fourth prime mark was

558
00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:27,420
This will repeat a little bit. So

559
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:33,100
The gestation capsule is rocketing from orbit that happens a lot in walhamer

560
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:36,060
People might notice a theme

561
00:42:36,060 --> 00:42:39,500
So the fourth prime mark lands on the world named olympia

562
00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:42,860
And this is an extremely like mountainous

563
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:45,660
uh place full of rugged terrain

564
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:48,620
and the people of this world are

565
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,500
uh inhabitants who live in

566
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:53,980
warring city states, it's kind of a

567
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:57,980
Okay, not even a subtle nod to ancient greece

568
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:05,420
It's just it's greece. Yeah. Oh, yeah a little bit. Oh olympia is this mountain is mountainous olympia. Hmm

569
00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:13,340
Little bit, uh, you know a bit of a silent, uh nod there, you know, not everyone might catch that you know, I mean

570
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:21,040
but so perturabo was his name and uniquely amongst all of his brother primarchs

571
00:43:21,580 --> 00:43:26,780
The fourth prime mark just he knew his name instinctively like he didn't get named

572
00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:29,660
Fulgrum was named I think was it from a chemosian?

573
00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:35,180
Deity's lion his name meant something. I forgot what I forgot what his name meant

574
00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:42,700
Yeah, I think uh, the lot the lion was obviously nicknamed by or given name by luther, but perturabo knew his name and

575
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:46,460
he crashed into the mountains of olympia and

576
00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:53,420
For the beginning of his life. He was by himself. So he was kind of like a little feral creature

577
00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:58,300
Kind of like the lion but not you'll see why it's not really like that

578
00:43:58,780 --> 00:44:03,740
But he was roaming he started to find livestock. He ate it bare-handed I assumed

579
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:10,540
And he would even fight like little monsters and serpent creatures upon this like weird like craggy

580
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:13,420
terrain and

581
00:44:13,420 --> 00:44:19,020
He eventually found he started to explore further down the mountain and that's where he found humans

582
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:21,100
and

583
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:27,180
The first time he kind of interacted with a human. He actually went up to a like a local village blacksmith

584
00:44:27,820 --> 00:44:30,620
and he used words I remember in the

585
00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:36,140
The primark book he sort of used words. He just heard be kind of under he knows what the words mean as soon as he hears them

586
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:38,620
But his language is really basic

587
00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:42,620
and he just starts to forge himself a weapon and

588
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:48,540
Uniquely for perturabo. He just knows how to do it. It's almost like the information is kind of

589
00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:53,500
On like on his like very dna. So perturabo the fourth primark unlike

590
00:44:54,220 --> 00:44:58,800
I think for I would I think fulgryn probably learned as he grew up but but perturabo

591
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Just knew what he was doing and the kind of story about this incredible special

592
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Kind of slightly enormous child

593
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,640
I found I always found that image quite funny. This is this massive child in the mountains

594
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,440
and it's not terrifying and

595
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:23,920
This story found its way to damikos named the tyrant of locos and locos is a one of the warring city states of

596
00:45:24,220 --> 00:45:25,520
olympia

597
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,440
and he took in

598
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,960
perturabo, so

599
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,240
Perturabo was obviously a primark. He was incredible

600
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:39,040
and damikos immediately as the tyrant of the city literally a tyrant obviously ruler of the city he

601
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,940
Made primark his adopted son. So perturabo got an education

602
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,880
He was given material. He's given kind of anything he wanted really

603
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,560
but

604
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,520
Perturabo's upbringing isn't it's kind of a bit. Um

605
00:45:53,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Um, like it's not even when he has all that it's not even a happy one like because olympian society where he grows up and it's

606
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,700
Really hierarchical. It's filled with war intrigue and politics

607
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,440
It's obviously kind of like literally the game of thrones a great game

608
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,080
and um

609
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Transactional almost yes

610
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,560
as I go

611
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,280
Like the way he treats him is like ah the boy has some talents. I will use them to my advantage

612
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,160
very much though, they're kind of they're not uh

613
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,280
They're not really like I guess the same way like we have

614
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:35,040
Because the politics interrupts the family life, shall we say and this annoys perturabo so much as

615
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,520
He is kind of we see from like the way he treats every situation

616
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,360
He's a being of logic

617
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:48,560
And he doesn't really fit in with the people around him because they're all like cunning and political and he's very much direct

618
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,600
and based on the greek god, so they're a whole bunch of

619
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,040
The worst people ever we were going to use a you could use a worse word that I can tell

620
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,120
I think it's like

621
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:05,120
They're they're wanks essentially. So let's go with that. They're they're wankers. Okay backers is fine

622
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,840
I was thinking of the anime like oh backer

623
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,200
The blushing thing he's the god of wine. I think

624
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920
Oh god, I misinterpreted that

625
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,440
I made an anime reference. I'm so sorry

626
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,640
Sorry

627
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,160
For that historical fact now he's the weeb and not me

628
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
yikes

629
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:31,040
So perturabo didn't he didn't fit in even to the extent that he didn't even take an olympian name

630
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:37,680
like he wasn't uh, he literally said I will be perturabo and he kind of like snubbed a lot of the uh olympians that way

631
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:38,960
and

632
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,280
His kind of inbuilt genius his aptitude

633
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,840
Uh for architecture and like sculpture work, uh was eventually

634
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,520
directly directed towards war in a place like this and

635
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:56,720
Kind of unlike the rest of the olympians perturabo was as I said earlier. He was direct. He didn't

636
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,400
Uh, there was no diplomacy or politics. He just

637
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,960
He built the machines and he took down the walls and with brute force he conquered olympia

638
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,840
And kind of so for the like the aesthetics of perturabo because I actually think he looks quite cool and

639
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,600
And again point one. He's enormous. He's a chunk

640
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:24,000
Absolute unit of a man and he has a slightly tan skin kind of greco

641
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:30,160
Like obviously it's olympia. It's grease essentially. He has like his himself like greco

642
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,640
features a kind of dark hair and

643
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:37,360
Uh, that's like with like his war gear. It's just like hey perturabo when you go into battle

644
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,000
Do you want to carry a war hammer a gatling gun a massive turret?

645
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:48,400
A cannon or like a sword and his answer is just yes, and he's just got all these guns and everything

646
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,880
He's kind of like if battle tech

647
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,960
Uh was meant to fit in a human form if you know what I mean

648
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,800
It was like it's like mentally put the battle tech robots and put them on a person

649
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,280
he's a unit of like a mix of

650
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:08,560
I think even I could I can probably get away with saying that some of his uh armor has some

651
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,680
some roman greco design to it, but a lot of it is kind of

652
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,640
uh brutal, uh

653
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,160
Tech just a weird comment. It's hard to describe it in a it doesn't happen on it though

654
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,360
You know like in hercules where they got the vases and they've got that kind of

655
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,640
Angular kind of swivelly design that goes around them. He's got that kind of pattern

656
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,640
So there are like those greek symbols, but they're they're kind of subtle also also stripes

657
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,480
Stripes lots of stripes lots of stripes there and his

658
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,560
He's definitely got the uh steiner scout lance of four atlas mechs, which if you don't know what battle tech is

659
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,240
imagine a scouting force consisting of nothing but uh warlord titans

660
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,480
Yikes

661
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:01,920
and so his personality you probably get a hint of what it was but he is a blunt brutal

662
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Deeply like logical being

663
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,560
Paterrabo I think is a kind of nice

664
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,640
uh counter to him that he he himself actually loves to be an architecture. There's even like a cool

665
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,920
Reference even in during the horrors heresy like I think fulgrum delves into his mind and he

666
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,280
Like he tries to find what Paterrabo's dream is and his dream is literally just him being

667
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,200
An architect in an age of peace

668
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:30,320
So he's actually got quite a or even the bit where magnus and him are in a in a book and he's

669
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,680
They're just walking through and magnus goes. Oh, is this your worksbench?

670
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,120
So look at all these gadgets you're working on. He's like, yeah, i'm working on some stuff

671
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,040
He's always like he he he never wanted to be a general. He just wanted to make stuff

672
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,000
Yeah, actually i'm going to shameless plug because I actually have that exact excerpt

673
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:51,600
Uh read out on my magnus video shameless plug there, but it might as well. Um, and

674
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,720
Uh, the unique kind of I found this quite interesting about Paterrabo himself where

675
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:01,840
Paterrabo knows instinctively about technology designs that he never had to

676
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:05,680
He's never designed anything. He just had the blueprint in his head. So

677
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,960
There's actually a weird kind of insecurity about him where he actually doesn't he never invents things

678
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,000
He actually just kind of regurgitates. Um,

679
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,160
Uh designs so he actually has a he doesn't really have an artist soul. If you know what I mean

680
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,160
He's a living stc

681
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,760
That's actually perfect living stc, uh for someone who doesn't know what he's doing

682
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,760
Uh for someone who doesn't know walhammer

683
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,440
stc is a standard template constructs kind of like a

684
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:38,080
A build anything device. He literally you basically put in the greed. It's kind of like a what's the minecraft equivalent?

685
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Like he's a lego master builder pretty much

686
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,480
What are those uh things in star trek where you just go like coffee and he just builds one you're like, oh how to do that

687
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,560
I don't know the food thing

688
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,080
Well, they just need go like I need this and they just it just makes it from like atoms or whatever it is

689
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,840
I can't remember what it's called

690
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,040
Kind kind of I know what you mean by coming with the name of it

691
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,040
but uh, there's like a last sort of facet of uh,

692
00:52:03,580 --> 00:52:09,520
Pertorabo's personality, which is paranoia some of this is from being raised in olympia

693
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,400
You know assassins and cutthroats, but also

694
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,120
ever since pertorabo kind of

695
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,760
Came to consciousness he could always

696
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:24,320
Look to the sky and he would see the warp tear called the eye of terror and it kind of always made him

697
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:31,360
Unnerved at times. He wasn't always trusting because he kind of he always felt like he was being watched which obviously I think

698
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,760
Everyone behaves differently differently when they're being watched. So he was very much a

699
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,920
Little bit almost not insecure but a little bit off, you know had he had his shoulders were stiff at all times

700
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,160
and the inspiration for pertorabo is actually

701
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:53,120
There's there is some speculation here because it may be slightly obvious that his name kind of sounds like the word perturbed

702
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:59,760
Which you know no one would have guessed I can't believe you know, you know, wow completely out of the blue there

703
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Which I mean just perturbed a lot

704
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,440
He is slightly perturbed

705
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,760
a rabo and

706
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,280
it also

707
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,200
Uh, it might be a reference to the motto of the author

708
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,920
Author slash ocular. I don't know how to say the word but ocularist called alistair crowley

709
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:24,320
Uh perderabo meaning I shall endure which is alistair crowley is quite a weird

710
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:32,400
Alistair crowley is quite a weird figure in uh, if anyone's like read some of his stuff. He's I guess ocularist is like a kind of a

711
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Weird like he delves into like the mysteries of the

712
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:41,040
Universe and things like that. It's a bit of a strange great. Um, ozzy osbourne song as well. Mr. Crowley

713
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,080
Oh, I didn't actually know that was quite cool. But so now we kind of we leave the slightly

714
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:51,760
iron-faced, uh craggy looking man and we we now go to

715
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,400
Perhaps the fastest

716
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,960
Chad in all of warhammer. So now it is the fifth prime

717
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,160
Dying the life of a true brexit geezer

718
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,160
Jagatai khan keyword freedom

719
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,960
Um, so whoo, so andy will probably dip a dip in a lot on this one

720
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:20,820
So the fifth prime mark he roared out of the warp in his gestation capsule and he landed on a planet called chagoras

721
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Best name of all the planets I have to say by far

722
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,560
Chagoras just hits different. You're like barbarous of being so

723
00:54:29,740 --> 00:54:31,740
barbaric

724
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,160
You were you were hitting that and then it's you know, the horse picture of like

725
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,880
Yeah, it's obviously like our game of thrones seasons when and the end of the horse is drawing really badly

726
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,480
That's what I think I need to find that picture for this

727
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,480
And um, so chagoras itself is a feudal world. It's dominated by kingdoms

728
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:56,800
Uh, it's also called mundus planet. I think but that might be the yeah mundus planet is what the uh, the imperial

729
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Yeah imperials call the people who live there call it chagoras

730
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,080
Or the ones who won you'll see what I mean in the end. So there's lots of kingdoms, but there's also

731
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:11,360
Uh steppe tribes in this, uh, great planet and it's actually they only have one continent. I think don't they like one big

732
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,920
F off continent giant

733
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,520
big boy and

734
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,960
Chagoras itself at the time of the 30th millennium is essentially they have black powder weapons

735
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,640
They're not they've they've kind of not got much going for them

736
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,840
and uh, it was in the sort of western

737
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:33,600
End of the big continent on chagoras called the empty quarter. It's where the fifth primarch

738
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:38,880
roared in and he crashed down into this sort of massive steppe land and

739
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,240
He was found by a tribe and they actually adopted him. They took him in

740
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,960
And this is all under the leadership of his now adoptive father called

741
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,440
Ong khan. I actually can't remember the name of jagatai's like original

742
00:55:53,440 --> 00:56:00,320
I have a name, do you know his original name? His original name was ketugu suogu ketugu suogu

743
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:06,880
That was his uh given name. He didn't unlike first robin. He didn't recall a previous name and

744
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,440
Oh, well, oh, oh, okay. This is among us

745
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,480
So he was taken in by this

746
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:24,080
His step tribe. He was you know, he was raised upon the steppe land and it was a tribalistic life. He was hunting riding

747
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,800
I feel sorry for that poor horse. It's like

748
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:32,080
Does anyone know um, what's the boss in elden rings at radigan when he's like

749
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:38,560
Radon's like rod on to be honest the horse that's had the worst time in video games is probably a pona from

750
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,720
Open year of time like she's been through a lot. How many times can you kick a horse?

751
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:50,160
He's been through a lot to be fair to radon's horse. He learned gravity magic. So the horse wasn't

752
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:57,440
I don't think i don't think jagatai khan learned how to use gravity magic. I think that horse just suffered

753
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,080
I know but but let's be honest when you see that horse. It is

754
00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:02,860
struggling

755
00:57:02,860 --> 00:57:12,460
You do not look good and so jagatai and his struggling horse jerry say and other pastime of the step tries was war

756
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:15,500
as we all know nothing makes

757
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:18,460
uh step life better than war and

758
00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:24,380
This all so he was growing up in this kind of tribe. He was he had a life of uh

759
00:57:25,180 --> 00:57:30,060
The the key word was freedom because on the step tries with the wind in his hair

760
00:57:30,060 --> 00:57:33,100
Uh good old jagatai. He was he loved the kind of

761
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:38,300
Uh open plane jerry say it was literally it's sung in his blood and

762
00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:46,780
All of this was glorious until the day when his father ong khan was poisoned by their rival tribe

763
00:57:47,260 --> 00:57:48,300
and

764
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:54,140
This was not good. I just I hope everyone agrees that they're not good. So it was a nice guy, too

765
00:57:54,860 --> 00:57:56,860
I know that's the shocking part

766
00:57:56,860 --> 00:58:02,940
Remember bridges like oh no, just there's not many primarchs who have nice dads when they do they're actually really nice

767
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:07,820
I know that's actually kind of heartwarming. I think gilliamans got the nice one, too. And um

768
00:58:08,780 --> 00:58:10,300
Connor was a cool guy

769
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:17,660
So jagatai he rallies his tribe and they utterly crush their rivals, but they actually absorb

770
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:23,900
The people into his own so he starts growing and these are now coined the tal skars

771
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:27,980
they are i can't remember exactly what tal skar means, but I think it's something to do with

772
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:34,780
Uh a belonging sense of the obviously scars will come up a lot funny enough when we talk about jagatai khan

773
00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:37,420
That'll be a thing to look forward in the future of a scar

774
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:39,660
and uh

775
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:45,900
But this was not just a life in the stats which was ignored so to the east

776
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:50,000
The palantines which are the city empires

777
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:56,160
Uh, they were they heard rumors of this like kind of growing horde and they attempted to kill jagatai because

778
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,040
You know don't let a threat build up. Good luck

779
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,000
It did not go well, but so they actually they attempted to kill him quite a few times

780
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000
But there was one attempt where?

781
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:12,640
I think even like they actually had an avalanche that tries to kill him as well. They tried to literally bury him alive and

782
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,960
many of jagatai's friends and fellow jagoreans of his

783
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:23,280
His honor guard they were killed but he lived literally like kill bill. He like punched his way out

784
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,840
of the ground and

785
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,720
he joined back up with his tal skars and

786
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,800
he was then proclaimed the great khan and he united all the tribes of the steppe and with a

787
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,880
massive army of thousands of jagorean steppe horsemen you can imagine how terrifying that is

788
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,400
Uh, obviously if anyone hasn't noticed yet, this is slightly a reference to a certain

789
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,680
Uh genghis khan or the chingis khan

790
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:56,320
And perhaps the only time in warhammer history the warhammer guy's a lot nicer than the real one

791
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,600
that's actually true and they

792
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,640
launched themselves at the palantine and

793
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:09,520
They completely even though this was an age of black powder technology. They outmaneuvered

794
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:15,120
Uh their forces completely they they had um heavy plate kind of traditional obviously it's a

795
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,600
reference to medieval medieval

796
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,000
Warfare you can imagine

797
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,640
I think of poor hungary kingdom of hungary

798
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,640
They have walls as well like jagatai and his guys were living in tents and in the plains and these guys had like a big

799
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,600
Fortress sort of thing funny enough. We're going to mention walls right now. So

800
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,960
As they approach these walled cities

801
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,360
jagatai

802
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,800
Made one offer which is surrender or death and so

803
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:49,780
The ones that did surrender they were treated generally quite well, but then obviously the ones that rejected were annihilated

804
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,360
and

805
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:58,480
He conquered all of chugoris and but the interesting thing about jagatai. Sorry the interesting thing about jagatai was that

806
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,440
the lifestyle of the kind of

807
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,680
horde mongolian

808
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,400
uh style like steppe existence was actually

809
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:12,640
Something he didn't give up. It was he decided to kind of I think he's even said they might be you might

810
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,120
Notice and he's singing I think says in the book like what would happen if you'd conquered

811
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:23,280
All of the kingdoms or the palantine. I think jagatai said that we just released them and let them go and then maybe conquer them

812
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:29,440
Again one day I think it's also the timing of the emperor meeting him was really good because he he'd taken over the whole world

813
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:34,320
And he was like I don't want to be the guy in charge running it. I want to be out

814
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,840
hunting and doing my own thing. So the emperor comes around as I

815
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,000
Oh, I mean son

816
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,000
So i'm doing this thing called the great crusade

817
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,040
I need some generals. Do you mind?

818
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,600
Getting your guys out into the galaxy and you know bringing some worlds into complies. He's like

819
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,520
Galaxy, yes, please and he he willingly went. No, i'm not going to be in charge anymore

820
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,600
Emperor can do that and I can do what I want to do and I can achieve his goal

821
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,360
Which is what I want which is to bring humanity back to the world

822
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:08,240
Humanity back together as a cohesive whole that all follows the same rules and can be free

823
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,440
Very much. So so he was like free-spirited isn't he in his own way?

824
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:20,560
And he the kind of lifestyle he really wanted to have was actually not it was so far from what an emperor

825
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,560
figure was like he actually kind of funny enough disliked emperor figures and

826
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:32,800
The aesthetics of jagatai because this is kind of he definitely has one of the cooler

827
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,360
All the primarchs kind of look cool if you know what I mean, but this is jagatai's got a really unique

828
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,560
Like even his war gear i'll mention a bit his war gear is like some of the best out there but himself he was

829
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:50,320
Uh first point enormous as we say that's gonna come up a lot. He had slightly tan skin

830
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:56,340
In mongolian asian features and his war gear, which is my favorite part, which is

831
01:02:57,220 --> 01:02:58,500
essentially

832
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:03,540
It's obviously has it has no place in a futuristic setting of like sci-fi fantasy

833
01:03:03,620 --> 01:03:06,580
But he just wears he's like the proper like is it tal?

834
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:08,500
Talwar

835
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:12,420
He says talwar blade. He has like he like he wears like furs and stuff like that

836
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:16,900
He has a top knot and things he has a these he does have like, um a big armor plate

837
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:22,260
But it is like very stylized after asian asian culture where it's like the folding plates over each other

838
01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:25,780
And it does have like a kind of um, like fanged helmet with like, um

839
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:31,300
Like a plume at the top, but it's it's not very often seen in the artwork, but he does that have that for like

840
01:03:32,180 --> 01:03:34,500
When they went into space they needed to wear helmets and stuff

841
01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:38,020
But otherwise he loves his levers. He loves his fur etc. He looks really cool

842
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:43,220
He's not he's not heavily armored like perturabo because jagatai can't hit him jagatai

843
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:45,860
as we say here he is

844
01:03:45,860 --> 01:03:50,920
Very fast. He is perhaps the fast he can move the fastest out. He is the fastest

845
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:53,140
And i'm speed

846
01:03:53,140 --> 01:03:55,780
He is speed. He's also got the best one liners

847
01:03:56,340 --> 01:04:01,860
Oh, yeah, he's got a he's quick on his feet and he's got a quick tongue as well. Lorgar had a pretty good one at calve

848
01:04:03,060 --> 01:04:04,660
at calve

849
01:04:04,660 --> 01:04:07,220
Oh, I haven't I haven't got to that part in my own

850
01:04:07,860 --> 01:04:11,940
Lore stuff yet. Shame on me. When we get to lorgar and gilman i'll

851
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:18,500
Maybe we'll bring it up in light in lorgar versus the chad kahn. That's for the next episode if you are

852
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:24,260
Watching we also actually have done a podcast episode on the white scars. So we go even

853
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:29,620
Into more like greater detail. So definitely we should mention that after this episode and the following one

854
01:04:29,620 --> 01:04:35,380
We will do each primark individually. So don't worry. We will go into them into more detail. Oh, yeah, this is the primer

855
01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:40,900
This this is just for if you you know, this this is the uh starter shall we say the entree?

856
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:42,900
so um for jagatai's

857
01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:51,380
Personality he is cunning. He's very he's quite I wouldn't say quiet is the right word, but he's very reserved

858
01:04:51,780 --> 01:04:56,820
reserved reserved is much better than what I put and he's also very wise as well. He

859
01:04:57,780 --> 01:04:58,740
was

860
01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:04,740
People underestimating his intelligence was actually one of his strong suits. He wasn't people obviously thought of him like the

861
01:05:05,460 --> 01:05:09,700
barbarian like horse lord whatever but then it's kind of like in our own history where people

862
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:16,340
Don't actually realize that the mongolians at the time. They were like conquering actually with the same level of technology. So it was like oh man

863
01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:18,980
He was very much the kind of

864
01:05:20,180 --> 01:05:24,420
Uh, what's the word i'm thinking of he's not underestimated is underestimated often

865
01:05:24,980 --> 01:05:26,980
And he's also

866
01:05:26,980 --> 01:05:30,980
He had a very big dislike of the idea of empires itself

867
01:05:30,980 --> 01:05:35,940
I think what if they're even deeper than that the idea of stagnation and weakness that comes from

868
01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:40,660
That comes from uh, we'll say here building walls. He hated walls

869
01:05:41,460 --> 01:05:42,900
and uh

870
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:45,540
Literally his personality trait I put here is he hates walls

871
01:05:46,340 --> 01:05:48,340
And he also hated people

872
01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:52,500
Showing off and being like look at me. Look at me fulgrum. Um, so yeah

873
01:05:52,580 --> 01:05:57,940
He also didn't like to to project how cool he was and how good he was because he was like

874
01:05:58,180 --> 01:06:04,340
You'll see when you need to see it if if we're gonna be giving giving away your strength when it didn't exactly

875
01:06:04,340 --> 01:06:13,060
Uh-huh and uh for his inspiration funny enough. He slightly resembles, uh, uh, genghis khan, sorry chingis khan

876
01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:15,780
Uh, if anyone didn't catch that harry potter

877
01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:21,140
Jesus christ, um, but his name jagatai is a play on

878
01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:27,780
Chagatai, which is the name of one of genghis khan's sons. This one I think is a reference to him being of a more

879
01:06:28,580 --> 01:06:33,220
Uh, I want to say peaceful, but he was much more diplomatic compared to his father

880
01:06:33,220 --> 01:06:35,220
So there's kind of a reference to

881
01:06:35,540 --> 01:06:38,260
that and for primark number six

882
01:06:38,660 --> 01:06:40,980
I will pass over to eli to talk about

883
01:06:41,540 --> 01:06:47,540
The furry the furry boy. I'm just gonna say it furry boy. Hey, so primark number six take it away

884
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:50,180
Hey, let me get a man. Hey, let me go on two

885
01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:56,340
What the dog doing yeah leaving rus the wolf king

886
01:06:57,060 --> 01:06:59,860
Whose keyword we had was fury?

887
01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:06,500
Uh rus of course in his pod came down landed on the death world of fenris

888
01:07:07,220 --> 01:07:12,020
Uh, this place was not nearly as nice as jagors

889
01:07:12,740 --> 01:07:16,980
Uh fenris is probably one of the harshest worlds in

890
01:07:17,780 --> 01:07:26,260
Warhammer maybe that might I mean debatable I guess but it's it's certainly up there it has uh, very extreme seasons of

891
01:07:26,260 --> 01:07:29,540
freezing cold or uh

892
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:36,260
Magma shooting up from the ice and it's there's kraken's and big giant monsters and everything is really crazy

893
01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:38,900
But the people love it so good for them

894
01:07:39,380 --> 01:07:43,220
Uh, but rus lands and he's then raised by wolves

895
01:07:43,700 --> 01:07:46,500
Like uh romulus and all the other guys

896
01:07:47,220 --> 01:07:52,740
From history and mythology, uh, see he's raised by wolves by a mother thunder wolf

897
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:56,020
with her cubs and eventually

898
01:07:57,140 --> 01:07:58,900
One day a tribe

899
01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:04,100
A tribe of guys come by and they basically kill all of the wolves they get in a fight

900
01:08:04,580 --> 01:08:08,660
And they noticed rus is a human being after rus has like killed

901
01:08:09,220 --> 01:08:12,500
Almost all of them bare-handed as like a 10 year old kid

902
01:08:13,060 --> 01:08:16,180
Not even I mean, he was probably like, I don't know two or three by now

903
01:08:16,180 --> 01:08:19,940
But he's I mean for primark that's probably around 10 to 12

904
01:08:19,940 --> 01:08:21,940
Maybe um

905
01:08:22,420 --> 01:08:25,780
So yeah, he kills most of them, but then they see oh this is a dude

906
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:30,580
Let's not kill him and he goes with them along with two of the wolves that did survive

907
01:08:30,900 --> 01:08:37,300
Gary and frecky which would accompany rus into the great crusade and onwards. I'm not sure how

908
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:44,500
That works. I guess just imperium technology keeping his dogs alive or what like massive colors

909
01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:46,500
Bowls of water and kibble

910
01:08:46,820 --> 01:08:48,340
Yeah, I guess so

911
01:08:48,340 --> 01:08:50,340
immortal kibble

912
01:08:51,380 --> 01:08:53,380
But yeah, gary and frecky go with rus and

913
01:08:54,340 --> 01:09:00,980
He joins the rus tribe and as he ages he quickly becomes part of the wolf guard for the king there

914
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:06,100
The king also gives him the name of leman leman of the rus which is how leman gets his name

915
01:09:06,820 --> 01:09:08,660
and leman

916
01:09:08,660 --> 01:09:12,900
Wins hundreds of battles and eventually becomes the king after the king dies of old age

917
01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:15,540
Something very uncommon in a place like fenris

918
01:09:15,540 --> 01:09:20,820
But when you have leman rus killing all your enemies for you, it's pretty doable to die of old age

919
01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:24,580
That's like that's just it's honestly basically it

920
01:09:25,940 --> 01:09:29,220
He becomes wolf king of fenris spreads his influence across the world

921
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:36,740
And eventually emperor comes to pick him up pick up his kid from the soccer game finally

922
01:09:37,380 --> 01:09:38,420
and uh

923
01:09:38,420 --> 01:09:40,020
the harshest um

924
01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:46,740
Uh, what's it not reception the heart the harshest like play nursery nursery the harshest nursery in the galaxy

925
01:09:47,540 --> 01:09:50,340
He was found really early on if I remember correctly

926
01:09:50,820 --> 01:09:55,220
Um, he was the same time as ferris. Yeah, technically the third

927
01:09:55,940 --> 01:09:57,940
But uh, oh, yeah, technically

928
01:09:58,020 --> 01:09:59,060
Yeah

929
01:09:59,060 --> 01:10:02,980
He wouldn't be emperor found him though. He was he came as like a cloaked mysterious figure

930
01:10:03,540 --> 01:10:07,140
And challenged rus so they had three challenges to go through

931
01:10:07,140 --> 01:10:10,580
Uh one was eating and one was drinking one was fighting

932
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:13,700
rus actually beats the emperor

933
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:15,860
in a drinking contest

934
01:10:15,940 --> 01:10:19,300
And he beats the emperor in a eating contest as well

935
01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:27,220
And now all the food and drink on this nice piece is eating up, but everyone's still loving it and the final pig

936
01:10:27,780 --> 01:10:29,780
Yeah, yeah

937
01:10:29,780 --> 01:10:36,660
The the final challenge though was that of combat and of course the emperor beats rus knocking him out cold

938
01:10:37,220 --> 01:10:43,860
And when he comes to he has nothing but respect for the emperor and is willing to go with him. That's a lucky boy

939
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:48,180
Yeah, it's a lot more stuff in the yeah a lot rus's stuff

940
01:10:48,740 --> 01:10:53,300
Um, everyone hasn't probably guessed as well. There's a slight norse

941
01:10:54,020 --> 01:10:56,020
Uh viking twist. Yeah

942
01:10:56,020 --> 01:11:03,780
Yeah, I think there's like um, oh as his aesthetics, can you describe his uh aesthetics to uh, yeah

943
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:10,420
He's similar to the con he kind of puts off this ambience of barbarism and

944
01:11:11,380 --> 01:11:16,420
Uh stupidity, I guess con the con doesn't look stupid, but a lot of people think leman is stupid

945
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:19,460
he hides it very well though because uh

946
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:23,780
He's always described as being very cunning and very smart

947
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:29,620
He has fangs of course fangs and claws and the long luscious blonde locks of the viking

948
01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:37,620
He wears his frost armor. That is kind of a gray light bluish with runes etched into it to protect him against

949
01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:44,100
Magics and whatnot. He wears the pelt of a wolf upon his back and he wields the sword named mjolnar

950
01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:46,340
How original?

951
01:11:46,340 --> 01:11:48,340
Wow wonder where they got that from

952
01:11:48,340 --> 01:11:54,420
He also has the axe of hell winter and then he gets a very fancy weapon later on

953
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:57,620
But we won't talk about that till later. I guess he has like four weapons

954
01:11:57,700 --> 01:12:02,100
Doesn't he also have kraken maw which is made from the teeth of a kraken. I think so

955
01:12:02,820 --> 01:12:06,980
I think he has the most amount of artifacts of all primarchs. He likes a good weapon

956
01:12:07,060 --> 01:12:11,620
He's a massive fan of swords and axes. There's there's there is a reason for that though, which we'll get into

957
01:12:11,620 --> 01:12:18,420
Yeah, he has very just wolfish features very he looks like a viking mixed with a wolf and that that's that's basically it

958
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:21,940
Got the cunning eyes. Yeah, lots of ruins

959
01:12:22,580 --> 01:12:24,100
It's a shame

960
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:26,100
Sorry, no, I was I was done

961
01:12:27,220 --> 01:12:30,980
So he's one of the coolest primarchs is in charge of the worst legion

962
01:12:32,980 --> 01:12:36,180
Everyone so mean to the space. What was that? I like them too

963
01:12:36,980 --> 01:12:38,340
He used to be a

964
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:42,500
The interesting thousand sons. Hi, i'm a thousand sons, uh the player

965
01:12:44,580 --> 01:12:47,060
The uh, I don't care I got magic

966
01:12:49,060 --> 01:12:51,140
But uh, I was like leman ross

967
01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:53,220
Used to be

968
01:12:53,220 --> 01:12:57,780
It's a weird part of the law like some bits of law. He's blonde and some parts he's ginger

969
01:12:58,340 --> 01:13:03,220
It like it it's actually like one of the biggest I guess law crimes. It's actually a law crime

970
01:13:03,220 --> 01:13:10,340
Like geez like in um early on he was blonde and then like in the primark book. Sometimes he's ginger

971
01:13:10,420 --> 01:13:16,340
So don't there's a little bit of discrepancy to his the most ways like haircare routine is at the time

972
01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:22,180
Just soaking in miod or whatever. He is quite blonde in all the horse hair see

973
01:13:23,140 --> 01:13:28,020
Pictures. Yeah, he's quite well in a lot of official stuff. He's blonde but then I guess in the book

974
01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:34,260
He's like ginger. So it's confusing. He also looks nordic as well. He's nordic as hell his look

975
01:13:35,060 --> 01:13:41,640
Advanced enough that hair dye probably isn't beyond them knowing the imperium. They were probably like we need to purge all the gingers

976
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:50,440
Is

977
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:58,440
We have here um, he's inspired by kevin russ

978
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,760
kevin russ

979
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:06,280
Yeah, the vikings the vikings are settled northern russia in the late middle ages

980
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,120
uh possibly reference to russ's people

981
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,120
From the tribe of prince rurik

982
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,280
Colin you need to go anything to say? Yeah, you might we're hoping you might

983
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:24,600
Illuminate a little bit on the kevin russ if anyone's interested in that. I mean, it's kind of kind of hit the nail on the head with it with the

984
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,880
norse settlers of that general area of the world

985
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,920
If you'd like a little bit

986
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:35,720
Of further things I wish they would do which is part of why I don't like the wolves

987
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,720
There could be something about the verandian guard who were the uh

988
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,280
Norsemen who essentially served the byzantine the roman eastern empire

989
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:49,720
Uh, oh, who's the there's a name inside the is it hagiya sephir in?

990
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:54,700
Uh istan. Oh, yeah, there's like there's someone who's written in nordic

991
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:01,160
uh runes, I think was it like something like uh, was it friny was here or something like half that was here

992
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,640
Yeah, whatever it was. Yeah, it was it was like nordic

993
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:09,080
Whatever it was. Yeah, it was like no one translated it like for like over a thousand years

994
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,720
And by the time we did we're like viking seekers could be some cultural thing and then it's just like yeah like

995
01:15:14,420 --> 01:15:16,420
profgar was here or something like

996
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,640
It's just stupidest thing

997
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,000
Language over time we didn't know what it meant

998
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:32,040
Oh, he meant I like I like that particular point though because especially of liman russ you mentioned earlier a little bit how I think that

999
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:37,880
uh, it would underestimate him because I think either said you said people think he's stupid but like

1000
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,440
The thing about the space was to get a bad rap

1001
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:46,680
But liman in particular he plays up the the aesthetic more than he actually is he kind of for the sake of his legion

1002
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,960
He plays up the kind of fenrizian element and there's this there's even this thing with like um

1003
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:57,800
When horus one of the primarchs makes him because he's oh, yeah properly found primarch and you know

1004
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,320
We will talk about horus in the next one. But basically imagine michael caulion

1005
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,680
If he was a primarch, you know, he's a gang boss originally

1006
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:09,800
And then he's quite prim and proper and all of a sudden he meets his first brother and he's just

1007
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:15,560
eating like meat with his hands and the ship he's in with the emperor and he's like drinking and then

1008
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,800
He's he has a chat with him and he's got a weird way of speaking. He's like you speak funny

1009
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,440
He's like I only learned your language two days ago and you're like

1010
01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:27,800
Oh, okay. So he's actually quite smart, but he kind of plays up the barbarism of his

1011
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:33,400
It's implied that he fakes his accent to be more rougher than it really is

1012
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:39,800
So he blend so he kind of blends in more with his fenrizian slash, you know, basically viking

1013
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,120
soldiers essentially uh, he's

1014
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,680
It liman rust if you are news of warhammer liman rus is

1015
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:55,240
If you'd like space wars like they you love space for people who play and they learn about space wars because

1016
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,360
Even reading some of their books. They're kind of like they're basically fantasy books rather than sci-fi

1017
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,240
Hmm, especially the ones on fenris shout to weirdly tolkien esque in some respects

1018
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,480
Very much. So they kind of shout out to you frankenau black main

1019
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:14,120
The first book of his one because I read that and it's literally a fantasy book

1020
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,120
There's barely any sci-fi until the very end

1021
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:22,280
And uh, I enjoyed that one quite a lot, but uh space wars, unfortunately, there's there's too much wolf and not enough viking

1022
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,080
I don't know wolves on fenris

1023
01:17:25,480 --> 01:17:28,040
That's a there's a joke. We'll have to explain one day

1024
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:29,640
but

1025
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:35,400
Sadly, we move on from the barbarian the wolf king liman rus and we turn now to

1026
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,480
Hey there, is there a project you're working on? I know more than you

1027
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:41,400
All right

1028
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:46,040
Our seventh primarch. This is roguel dawn key word

1029
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:53,160
Fortify there's literally no better word for him. I'm not gonna have any arguments. Oskar is a better word for roguel dawn

1030
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,120
He fortified his haircut

1031
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,120
his

1032
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:58,920
Trash

1033
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,920
Oh, he would look let me from motorhead

1034
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,400
He would look cool with a beard to be honest

1035
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:09,720
So the story of primarch number seven was that he landed on the planet of the

1036
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,800
Landed on the planet of in wit

1037
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,280
Uh, this is not going to be subtle again in the reference

1038
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,240
Welcome to warhammer and

1039
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,360
The planet of in wit is kind of this

1040
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,640
None of the primarchs seem to land on

1041
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:31,800
nice words a lot of time but in the wits kind of kind of similar to fenris where it's literally an ice planet

1042
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,600
and it is

1043
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,560
Yeah, it's just bitterly cold and

1044
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,920
It's actually full of like sort of similar to ferens where there's like weird

1045
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,960
Kind of creatures that are a little bit

1046
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:51,480
Uh dangerous is not like it's not enough to kind of explain how bad it is there. There's a story about

1047
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,280
There's like uh, two

1048
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:59,240
Recruits trying to join the imperial fist chapter and they literally get attacked by this thing

1049
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:05,560
emerges from the ice and it's like multi-limbed and it's like it like skates and it runs like full pelt across the uh,

1050
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,560
Ice and that's always in my dreams

1051
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,040
Um enough about that. So

1052
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:15,960
Rogal his name was rogel dawn and this was a name given to him

1053
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:17,960
by a

1054
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:23,880
uh tribe slash clan system that inhabit the the uh space on in wit and

1055
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:31,400
In wit itself is actually a lot of it's quite mysterious. Unfortunately, it's not one of the better fleshed out worlds of primarchs, but

1056
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,520
There are some things that we can glean. So

1057
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,080
they have like a kind of clan system where

1058
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,040
People often on the planet they roam

1059
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:47,480
Around like these huge like ice tunnels and it's actually kind of I think that kind of imagery is quite cool to be honest and

1060
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,000
There's obviously war between tribes and things like that

1061
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:58,920
But and there are some cities like that are deep beneath the ice, but the people of this world are sort of technologically advanced

1062
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:01,880
to a certain degree they actually

1063
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:08,920
Have expanded beyond in wit but funny enough for some reason they actually still live the same way they would live on it

1064
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:14,680
Where like the sun is kind of dying and it's like, uh, it's just on its last legs and they're like, yeah

1065
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:21,400
This is a bit cold and then sun's not helping. It's not very bright. It is bitterly cold. But funny enough that bitterly

1066
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,120
coldness shall we say

1067
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,400
uh

1068
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:32,680
Seeped into the very people of this world themselves. So roguel dawn. He was actually adopted by

1069
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,720
A man who he would actually he didn't know

1070
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:42,840
He wasn't necessarily related to him. He's actually his adoptive grandfather. Who was the leader of house dawn

1071
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,000
That's where he obviously gets his name dawn

1072
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,720
as his last name and

1073
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:53,320
funny enough, I think even though roguel dawn himself obviously it's like a it's a bitter world and

1074
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:59,080
The people obviously that they live in harsh environment. They survive their survivors. They are they are people who endure

1075
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:00,520
but

1076
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,520
uh, it's implied that his grandfather was actually quite a

1077
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:09,960
Nice figure to roguel. So he looked after this, you know, super soldier

1078
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,520
amongst his ranks

1079
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:19,080
uh, he was he eventually became the leader of uh house dawn and the clan and

1080
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:26,360
Uh house dawn themselves actually it's kind of like game of thrones in a way where one house like rules these all the kingdoms and

1081
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:31,640
So house targaryen essentially but without the without the uh, the inter sibling love

1082
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,360
but um, so dawn was very much a kind of almost

1083
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,360
statesman

1084
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,640
slash warrior king figure and he

1085
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:48,040
Even was he actually became the leader of this planet over decades and he would rule over like a

1086
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:53,160
Kind of almost a mini pocket empire. He was an emperor. He literally was an emperor

1087
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,800
and uh his kind of story was

1088
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Uh, it even states like if the emperor had never found roguel. He would have been fine essentially and roguel is quite a well balanced

1089
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:08,520
Human bit. He's actually he's almost the most human in a way primarch. I think because a lot of them are quite

1090
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,880
Flawed there's a trend of like flaws in the primarchs

1091
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,680
But roguel seems to be more like he's actually kind of like an enormous human in a way

1092
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,720
Can I mention something tied to that with his grandfather?

1093
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,720
Uh, there was a thing that basically when his grandfather died

1094
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:29,400
um roguel dawn had this blanket he would put over his bed because it was you know, he was his grandfather's

1095
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,200
Uh because it was quite cold and throughout his life

1096
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:36,200
He always kept the blanket from his grandfather as a reminder of how he raised him

1097
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,640
So I thought that was like a nice little touch with roguel dawn where every time when he went to bed

1098
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,520
Which wasn't often because he's a primarch. He doesn't really need to sleep much

1099
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:47,880
He'd have his grandfather's like blanket on his bed and like oh, it's like a nice little human touch to his character

1100
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,080
I like that part because it's quite uh

1101
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:56,120
Human, you know, because they're all these super soldiers, but it's a nice humanizing moment

1102
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:00,440
But to say that as well roguel was not any pussy bitch. I mean

1103
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,960
This guy was um

1104
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:10,440
An absolute unit of a man. So he his combat style would often even just

1105
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:14,120
The whole ethos was endurance if he could take pain and

1106
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:21,160
You know, he would take you know, he could take a thousand cuts and he would still win patience was his greatest weapon

1107
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:27,560
And so for the look of roguel dawn, so if you were to like, you know, oh which primarch is roguel dawn roguel dawn

1108
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,080
Point one again enormous. He is a absolute

1109
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:37,160
Unit of a man. He has very like sort of pale skin. It describes like celtic features

1110
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:43,560
His um kind of like fulgrum. He actually has white hair, but whereas fulgrum is this they have long flowing

1111
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,920
gorgeous hair, you know praise to elif or

1112
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,880
His his favorite primarch roguel dawn has the very like short cut

1113
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:58,600
Kind of you know, no nonsense. I looked at I read once somewhere that someone said that he reminded them of like

1114
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,160
us army like

1115
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:04,360
Trainers, you know, like drill sergeants like that's his assistant

1116
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:10,280
Like buzz cut very short cropped hair. No nonsense. Very tall and stoic and barking orders

1117
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,560
Like that's kind of the aesthetic in a way definitely. He's not like the he's not like a pretty boy, but he's very much a

1118
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,920
Like he's kind of looks like an average person where he's not ugly

1119
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:23,000
He's not handsome either. He's just kind of very stern looking kind of like literally I say grandfather looking man

1120
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,320
He's not obviously older than any of the primarchs

1121
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,880
But he kind of he would be projecting the way he's like, you know, he's like a little bit more of a

1122
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:35,400
He's not obviously older than any of the primarchs, but he kind of he would be projecting the way like being the oldest

1123
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:42,120
As seniority very much so and his uh, his personality is stern. He is tactical

1124
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:49,560
He's not the best with his emotions. He doesn't not understand emotions. He's not as bad as perturabar

1125
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:57,160
No, he's better than the lot. He's better than pershraba and the lion like he understands people's emotions. He's just not very expressive

1126
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:03,000
There's probably not a lot to express within himself to be honest. He's very cut and dry. He's also

1127
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,680
Yeah, he's very stoic. He's a very enduring man as well

1128
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,960
Very much. So he's kind of he's a perfect soldier really I think perfect soldier

1129
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,840
Shout out to chastor master valrac if he ever hears this because he isn't

1130
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:23,480
He I definitely didn't think much of pershraba before but the more you like kind of read about him you learn about him

1131
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,640
you realize like oh man, he's

1132
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,640
He's actually probably

1133
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:33,800
He's like he's like he's on paper. He's probably the best primark on paper, but i'm also like he's

1134
01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:39,560
You say I know. Oh, well, maybe gilman to be fair on paper might be the best but uh, he's he's pretty

1135
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,960
He's extremely um

1136
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,040
Not like whatever useful but I mean he's very competent i'll say

1137
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:54,040
And uh the inspiration actually for roguel dawn is the word roguel, which is a possible play on the word regal

1138
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:55,080
regal

1139
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,080
possibly because whenever you see um

1140
01:25:57,480 --> 01:25:59,960
roguel dawn's armor it is you know is

1141
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:06,280
It's it is ornate golden, you know eagle. Is the only one who just goes like i'm copying dad gold

1142
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,360
He does like his mini emperor look he's got the imperial drip

1143
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,880
He's got his uh, he's not trying to riz but he's rizzing as you say

1144
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:24,680
Hey in the plural i've just put that in there and um, but also the word dawn means castle or stronghold in old english

1145
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,360
as well as uh

1146
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:31,960
His legion. Sorry chapter. Should we say now uh, the imperial fist legion that are created from him

1147
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:33,480
uh

1148
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:37,400
Of the imperial fists and the word fist in irish. It's also

1149
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:42,520
Uh dawn also means fist in irish, you know gaelic and things like that as well

1150
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,120
so there's again not the most subtlest of nods but

1151
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:52,760
He's very much a pretty he's he's the on the nose, but he gets the job done kind of prime arc

1152
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:54,680
but

1153
01:26:54,680 --> 01:27:00,620
Having said all that nice stuff about a nice prime mark. We now go to perhaps the most horrifying

1154
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:06,760
uh human like creature that's ever existed in the warhammer setting this is probably

1155
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,800
This is this is the one most interesting

1156
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:14,040
I know i'm doing i'm doing it because this is true, but this is one of the most I guess

1157
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,160
uh flawed human beings

1158
01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:22,360
Ever I swear you would be of more use to me if I skinned you and turned your skin into a lampshade

1159
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,520
Or fashioned you into a piece of high-end luggage. I can even add you to my collection

1160
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:32,840
So this is prime mark number eight and this is conrad curse keyword

1161
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,480
terror

1162
01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:36,520
so

1163
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,440
the eighth prime mark

1164
01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:45,000
Which would eventually become conrad curse. He actually I think he conrad curse is someone who

1165
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:52,680
Uh funny enough, he will he remembers his name not like perturabo. He actually remembers it from a vision

1166
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,760
so it's kind of a bit different but he

1167
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,820
Exits the warp and he rockets towards the planet called nostromo

1168
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,160
Is nostromo I think is also a link to

1169
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:08,520
To a book but it's also the name of is it alien the ship in alien is the nostromo

1170
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:16,280
Nostromo so there's not mass nostroma. There's an a and o so it's nostromo but in alien is nostromo

1171
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:22,120
Well, it's a it's a nice link there because but you definitely get the same vibes here because this is horrifying so

1172
01:28:22,740 --> 01:28:26,680
Nostromo itself is an extremely like it is almost

1173
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:28,120
uh

1174
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,960
Midnight black the world is extremely dark its sun is

1175
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:36,780
Is not even visible through the clouds. It's full of smog pollution

1176
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:45,000
It's actually awful and it's has a very few has like five main kind of hive cities that exist on this world

1177
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:51,020
where humanity lives and in the middle of uh, one of these cities on nostromo

1178
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:52,920
the

1179
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:59,880
Eighth prime mark crash lands and he emerges from his capsule and is immediately set upon by someone trying to kill him

1180
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,880
and

1181
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:06,360
So he he rockets are into the atmosphere. Sorry. He lands in the crust of the planet

1182
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:11,000
Doesn't he exit in magma? No, he he like crawl out

1183
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,240
He literally crawls and also in a storm itself. The world is filled with

1184
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,760
lots of rare gems and minerals and so

1185
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:26,120
The eighth primer actually claws himself out like, you know, bloody his fingers and he struggles and he when he emerges

1186
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:33,240
Sorry, he literally emerges out of the hole and he's immediately set upon by someone trying to kill him and the reason for that is because

1187
01:29:33,460 --> 01:29:34,760
Nostromo

1188
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:38,520
Is essentially a lawless hellscape. It is um

1189
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,760
Think of like a mafia kind of run like crime city

1190
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,320
but on 11

1191
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:50,920
It's midnight black in the streets and it's just all dripping with you know smog and pollution. It's awful

1192
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,560
and even like his first

1193
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,240
Instinct like first human he ever sees in the world the eighth primark

1194
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:02,040
Tries to kill him and he immediately again because he's a primark snaps him in half

1195
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,200
You know, he folds him like laundry shall we say?

1196
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,120
um, and he

1197
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,680
There's no food. So he actually consumes him

1198
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,240
And that's when he starts to see yeah

1199
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:16,280
He's obviously like the images and like the memories of people when he consumes their brain material

1200
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:19,880
Which actually most all space means can do actually yeah, they can all do it

1201
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:26,600
It's quite a bit of a weird. I'm not you know, yikes and the eighth primark

1202
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:31,080
So he kind of his unique thing about him. He's growing up alone in this

1203
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,800
place of nostromo and

1204
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:40,920
He's a lawless crime ridden place and he had no one to look after him and he kind of learns by observing humanity

1205
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,480
He sees like the cruelty

1206
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:44,600
and just

1207
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:50,120
The awful way that the nostromians like treat each other even though their skin he kind of resembles them in a way

1208
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,120
but we'll talk about that in a bit, but

1209
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:57,960
They're like kind of all very pale people that their eyes are their pupils are so large

1210
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,840
I think that they you can barely see out the whites of their eyes. Yeah

1211
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,560
They're kind of a little bit

1212
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,720
off looking and uh

1213
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:13,000
They he very much is alone growing up in this terrifying place and he is plagued by visions throughout his childhood

1214
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:19,560
And into like adolescence and that's how he learns his name. He's kind of he literally raises himself. So conrad

1215
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,880
occurs and

1216
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:23,400
he

1217
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:27,640
Kind of doesn't really understand like why he's here again

1218
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:32,360
He doesn't he he has certain like little bits in his mind visions like filling in the gaps

1219
01:31:32,440 --> 01:31:36,360
but he feels within him like many of the primarks feel like an innate sense of

1220
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,320
Like they have like a duty to like all them eventually like sort of conquer their worlds a lot of time

1221
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:45,160
They feel like a sense of domination or like there's a will to exert

1222
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,920
And for poor old conrad his thing was justice

1223
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:56,840
And this is where he turns into something called the night haunter figure because he learns an interpretation of justice

1224
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,560
from a people who do not have justice

1225
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:01,800
and

1226
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:09,800
Yeah in the night he uh, he very much learns that the only thing to ensure what his twisted like form of justice is

1227
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:15,240
is fear and so he becomes the night haunter figure where he

1228
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:20,680
dominates he eventually dominates all of the world in a strammo in a rule of

1229
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:27,800
Tyranny and fear of the night haunter creature that will punish people and by any crime

1230
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:32,040
I think there's an awful part where someone wishes to let's say, um

1231
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,520
Take their own

1232
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:40,520
As as I imply here, you know end their journey shall we say and that is a crime to him

1233
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:49,240
And so he then punishes and tortures that person in such a way that no crime would ever be committed on the strammo

1234
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,480
And he eventually after decades creates this very sort of strange

1235
01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:58,280
I say straight because strangers didn't even cut it because the people of nostrum

1236
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:03,160
Are so definitely afraid of stepping out of line because any crime is punished by

1237
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:07,560
Extreme torture like becomes a tyrant. Yeah, he becomes a sort of weird tyrant king

1238
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:14,120
But then also in a strange place when he when he's then names himself like king of nostrum and all the high of cities

1239
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,600
He still personally hunts people who?

1240
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:24,120
Do role which is awful, but you know, he makes time for it and but funny enough the society sort of transforms into

1241
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,040
Actually the best version of itself funny enough. Obviously it was done through

1242
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:34,200
Horrific means and be fair to conrad as well if you are alone on a planet where i've like to give there's a story about two of

1243
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:40,200
The night lords who eventually become part of the legion as kids and they're like brothers and they're just barely hanging on

1244
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:44,040
And they find another boy and I think for a while they live with him to be like, it's okay

1245
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,880
You can live with us and then they one day they get fed up with him crying all the time

1246
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:52,200
They kill him and eat him because they're like, oh it's better than eating rats and it's like

1247
01:33:53,480 --> 01:33:56,280
I don't know how else you would like manage to get rid of him

1248
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:02,360
I don't know how else you would like manage to get that planet under control. I mean, it's it's a terrible situation to be in

1249
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:08,680
Nostromo had armies, you know, he's on his own nostromo sucks. Basically

1250
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:10,920
It's awful

1251
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,920
and so if you were to

1252
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:17,480
It's the aesthetics of if you say conrad kurze slash the night haunter. So

1253
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,120
Conrad kurze himself is

1254
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,400
Again enormous. He is a towering

1255
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,920
Demi-god figure his skin is extremely pale

1256
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:33,960
Waxy he is a sort of eastern european very very gothic kind of eastern european features

1257
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,320
Uh, mainly many people describe like gaunt looking so it's even more terrifying when you

1258
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,840
See him. He doesn't he doesn't kind of command the same

1259
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,360
Or that a lot of the other primarchs do when you see them

1260
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:50,600
Almost malnourished if that were possible for a primarch she commands you to void your bowels

1261
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,120
That's very to be honest that is a little accurate 100 percent

1262
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:55,880
and

1263
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,120
The personality of conrad is

1264
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:04,360
I think the best way is like skitterish. He's kind of his mind very much. He was haunted by visions

1265
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:11,880
And tormented tormented by visions his whole life and when he like ate people because he had no food or didn't know what he was doing

1266
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:17,800
He he would have the minds of basically criminals of like a awful planet

1267
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:21,000
Then sort of absorbed into himself. So he's very much a

1268
01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:23,480
sadistic he's a terrifying

1269
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:25,080
a slightly

1270
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:32,200
Weirdly self-righteous character. He's he's obsessed with there's an innate sense of justice within him, but obviously it's been perverted by

1271
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,760
What nostromo believes about that one of the most tragic characters?

1272
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:41,960
Yeah, he's very he's a very broken man, but his legion to fair their aesthetics themselves

1273
01:35:42,440 --> 01:35:45,720
They kind of don their armor with like icons of fear

1274
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,240
They have their whole uh, he he like he learned

1275
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,960
Quote quote learned that the only way to control humans was fear

1276
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:59,640
And the inspiration for good old conrad curse is actually from

1277
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:04,840
Possibly the novella called heart of darkness by joseph conrad another conrad

1278
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,520
Makes sense. This is actually a story about a former ivory trader in the congo

1279
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:17,480
If I if I was a man named like kurtz and he rules over the native population as a charismatic demi-god kind of

1280
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:22,920
Inspiring, you know, uh, you know an outsider coming in ruling over the people but it's also

1281
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,200
inspired by good old vlad the impaler which

1282
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:31,480
Which I think if anyone sees him or when you read the story you're like, that's an obvious hit

1283
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:36,600
I don't know if colin wants to give a i'm pretty sure most people have heard of vlad the impaler but colin if you

1284
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:41,320
Might want to give a little bit of a cheeky history about vlad because I know you love your history

1285
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,960
There's of course, you know, he's the guy who inspired dracula when he

1286
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:53,480
In response to the turkic invasions of europe after they got past the what was left of the byzantine empire

1287
01:36:54,120 --> 01:37:00,120
Uh, I believe he impaled 50 like I don't know how many it was a lot of people he put on spikes one is enough

1288
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,800
It's significant it was significantly more than one

1289
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,280
It's significant. It was significantly more than one

1290
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,960
Yikes, yeah, so vlad is um

1291
01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:16,440
Was it voivode voivo of romaine or what was it called valakia? Sorry voivo of valakia

1292
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:22,440
Yeah, and uh vlad vlad sorry not vlad wrong setting vlad von karstein is not in this one

1293
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:28,280
Sorry conrad curse takes a lot of inspiration from that historical figure. In fact a lot of the prime marks are kind of

1294
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:34,120
They're obviously historically inspired inspired. Sorry by uh, like the great generals or

1295
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:39,580
Certain motifs or writers or art don't forget his biggest inspiration

1296
01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:42,120
Oh, no, where's this going?

1297
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:43,560
batman

1298
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:49,560
That's true. There's a joke within the community. I'll see him being you know, the dark knight essentially, you know justice

1299
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,640
I just uh, no, I don't want to see that batman

1300
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:59,720
It's just a shame that he didn't meet one of his brothers and go what's your mommy's name? Oh, my mommy's name is urda

1301
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,520
Oh mine's called urda too. We can be friends

1302
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,000
No love for conrad and conrad's kind of

1303
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,720
Actually, we'll just finish very briefly on him where when he actually meets the emperor

1304
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,240
He is overtaken by a vision and tries to claw his own eyes out. So

1305
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:22,040
Corrosion corrodes that corns a very tortured soul. Yeah, when does he is that when does he get the vision of?

1306
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:22,920
of

1307
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:27,080
What will become of him at what point in his life? Does he know what he always saw?

1308
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,440
Is it from the very beginning right? Yeah, so

1309
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:37,080
If you're new to warhammer, uh conrad curse was always tortured by the vision of his own death

1310
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,480
What an assassin ordered by the emperor so he can see into the future

1311
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:46,200
He can sort of see into the future some of the other primarchs can who are like, uh psychically gifted

1312
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,720
so they had like sort of pseudo magic powers and um

1313
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:51,560
he

1314
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,840
But this one was involuntary. He didn't choose to like peer into it

1315
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,360
It was like kind of torched but he he saw his entire life at multiple points

1316
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:03,240
And so corrodes always believed that fate was set because he was destined to die at that time

1317
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:08,200
But um speaking of another primarch who saw visions of the future

1318
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:13,820
Boys, you saved christmas also on jesus. Thanks jesus

1319
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,680
It's time to go to heaven my child

1320
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:22,360
What are you doing? Stop it. Stop it. Cut it out. Yeah, but the vision of this man is glorious indeed

1321
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,840
We have sanguineous

1322
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:26,660
keyword

1323
01:39:26,660 --> 01:39:27,880
nobility

1324
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:33,320
So this is probably this is the pretty this is giz fulgrimmer run for his money in terms of pretty boys

1325
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,520
He's the opposite of conrad basically

1326
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,960
pretty much yeah, so sanguineous is

1327
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,400
I think he's a lot of people's favorite, uh primarch. He's

1328
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,720
as primarch of the blood angels if you're in war if you kind of are new to warhammer and

1329
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:55,160
uh, you'll you'll see why he's kind of eventually so beloved when we do a episode on him but just a brief little bit about

1330
01:39:55,700 --> 01:39:57,080
sanguineous himself. So

1331
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:58,920
his story was

1332
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:04,840
Again the gestation capsule it roars out of the warp and he lands on the planet called

1333
01:40:05,540 --> 01:40:11,800
Barsecundus which actually is the second moon or funny enough the planet called bar prime

1334
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,720
um

1335
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:18,280
and Baal itself is kind of if you imagine mars

1336
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:24,120
But bigger and it's a kind of a red weight. It literally described like the red wastes of Baal

1337
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:29,640
It's a very much a kind of rusty hellscape. It's kind of backstory is that

1338
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:35,240
uh humanity previously did live in like orbital stations above Baal

1339
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:40,200
And then there was a civil war during the age of strife and sort of all this like massive

1340
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,720
of metallic shit

1341
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:48,120
They all crashed down and that's the reason why Baal and Barsecundus like full of essentially red dust and

1342
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,000
The people who live on Baal

1343
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,280
They're not going to have a good time so and i'll explain why so

1344
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:58,200
the

1345
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:02,680
Ninth primarch he lands on Barsecundus itself and

1346
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,840
He awakens to this heavily irradiated kind of

1347
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:11,480
Mist and it's like a red like um tornado of dust around him

1348
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,360
It's very much a hellscape literally as a death world

1349
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:20,200
and he eventually comes upon uh other humans and these are people who

1350
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,840
Are they're like decked out in like radiation gear and it's very

1351
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,840
Shocking for him when he first sees people because when they see him

1352
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:35,800
They see this glorious golden child with angel's wings on his back. So uniquely

1353
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:40,840
Amongst all his brothers Sanguinius has wings, which I think is cheating to be honest

1354
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:43,320
It doesn't sound very fair

1355
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:49,720
I mean like all of all the abilities like Perthrabot can see eye of terror at all times and Sanguinius gets wings

1356
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,560
Isn't it implied that it might actually be a mutation from Baal?

1357
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:57,960
Like it's it's not clear if it was a gift or it's something that just happened when he was on Baal

1358
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:03,720
It's implied that the it is a mutation that is not natural but it was again

1359
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:09,560
I think the emperor says the emperor's like it's it's acceptable. I think he says if I remember correctly

1360
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,000
But um, this is we all know radiation gives you wings

1361
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:21,000
That's like the red bull slogan not like a draggled soul reaver wings. It's like nice beautiful angel. Oh, yeah

1362
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,640
Nice actually. Oh cool. I'm gonna go to Baal and get irradiated and I get myself some wings

1363
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:27,800
Doesn't work. Oh

1364
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:31,640
So the people of the fun of the Baalite tribesmen

1365
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:38,360
They actually find him and he actually kills what's called like a rad like a kind of a red

1366
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:48,200
Red rad, sorry rad scorpion sort of creature and he kills it with his bare hands and they see this child and he's like surviving amongst this

1367
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,480
Like irradiated like he shouldn't ex

1368
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:57,160
You know a human shouldn't be able to tolerate that but they can obviously see he is special and he's taken in

1369
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:01,240
by the Baalite tribesmen and they very much are

1370
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:03,160
because of

1371
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:07,720
The way they have to survive on this world. They are actually quite a tight knit community area

1372
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:11,560
So in obviously the worlds where you land on shape you quite a lot

1373
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,880
I always think about Rogal Dawn's one with sanguineous like Rogal Dawn's one is quite

1374
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,680
Icy and so obviously he's quite an icy man

1375
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:25,720
But funny enough even though sanguineous lands in this like hellscape the people of Baal are actually quite loving and they have like

1376
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,720
aspects of nobility. There's a kind of

1377
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:29,960
there's an implied

1378
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:33,480
This is very deep lore here, but it's implied like within the warp there are like

1379
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,160
Like psychic angels that fight for the soul of Baal

1380
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:43,240
And they actually influence the people who live there who have lived there in the past and who will live there in the future

1381
01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:46,440
and so there's a kind of culture of

1382
01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:48,500
nobility and art and

1383
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,000
expression in this place

1384
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:55,720
but also sanguineous is not just an angel looking innocent boy. He is

1385
01:43:56,440 --> 01:44:04,280
an absolute chad of a warrior too. So he leads his people to fight off these mutant hordes. So these are the people who

1386
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:09,480
succumb to radiation and they just basically turn into zombies essentially and

1387
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:12,920
Pretty much and he

1388
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:17,800
he just uh unites the people of Baal as tribes all together and

1389
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:21,800
And he leads them to purge. Yeah funny enough. He's a nice guy

1390
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:28,040
He actually purges the mutant hordes of this place and he managed to sort of bring a sense of

1391
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,080
unity and a place where

1392
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:32,280
actually like

1393
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:39,400
People again like kind of similar to Fulgrim on Kemos people didn't live very long on Baal. So actually this is the first time where people

1394
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,080
sort of have a time to express themselves and so

1395
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:47,800
um, he is seen as like their glorious leader and he uh,

1396
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:52,840
He's actually famous for his kind of his oratory skills as well. So a lot of the other primarchs are

1397
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,160
They're generals. They're warrior kings, but sanguineous is more than that

1398
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:01,880
He's kind of a little he has a little bit of statesman within him. Not as much as some other primarchs

1399
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,520
Gilliman

1400
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:09,160
But sanguineous is definitely more than just the symbol of when you look upon him

1401
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,800
so as for the aesthetics of

1402
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:13,420
of sanguineous

1403
01:45:13,420 --> 01:45:17,580
He is be a beautiful. This is a gorgeous man

1404
01:45:18,220 --> 01:45:21,900
he is, uh, literally the pretty nickname the pretty boy in, uh,

1405
01:45:22,300 --> 01:45:25,740
Warhammer, he is quite like porcelain like pale skin

1406
01:45:26,460 --> 01:45:32,060
I wouldn't even know what culture to describe him as because his look is angelic. He doesn't actually look like a

1407
01:45:32,860 --> 01:45:38,940
Singular race like you've got sort of low long flowing kind of blonde hair like noble features

1408
01:45:38,940 --> 01:45:42,220
To be honest, i've always associated the blood angels with france

1409
01:45:42,780 --> 01:45:45,020
Be honest because they got like the cherubs and the kind of

1410
01:45:45,500 --> 01:45:53,660
the the appreciation for art and I feel like he reminds me of some of those like, uh depictions of like old french monarchy

1411
01:45:54,300 --> 01:45:58,060
Symbols where they have the long flowing hair and they're like look at me. I'm so pretty

1412
01:45:58,540 --> 01:46:01,340
Maybe that's just kind of like louis like the sun king in a way. Yeah

1413
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:05,180
Yeah, little bits a little bit. I think that's probably better than what I was thinking

1414
01:46:05,180 --> 01:46:09,820
Because I hadn't I was going to go a bit more of a latin, uh vibe to it. Yeah, but um,

1415
01:46:10,380 --> 01:46:12,380
so even like in his like, uh

1416
01:46:12,620 --> 01:46:15,340
I said a panellope of war and steal that from eli

1417
01:46:15,900 --> 01:46:21,500
Um, so his uh war gear is like extremely like it's like shaped golden armor

1418
01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:27,420
He has like a kind of leopard like star pelt around him some of the barlite tries when they lived, uh

1419
01:46:27,980 --> 01:46:32,300
In barl now they actually hunt again like there's a theme of like weird creatures hunting

1420
01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:34,700
primarchs and um

1421
01:46:35,420 --> 01:46:41,820
They can't help themselves. They're like, that's a big meal. I thought unfortunately barl itself is quite at the time mysterious

1422
01:46:41,980 --> 01:46:45,100
Although even in the 40th millennium the modern

1423
01:46:45,740 --> 01:46:49,180
Timeline is implied that it's kept quite stale as in like the way

1424
01:46:49,820 --> 01:46:51,820
So they have like weird, um

1425
01:46:51,820 --> 01:46:57,980
Some of the tribes that roam the wastes themselves or some of them live in like weird like carved like sandstone cities

1426
01:46:58,620 --> 01:47:00,380
as well, um

1427
01:47:00,380 --> 01:47:02,620
But sorry back onto his like war gear. It's very

1428
01:47:03,340 --> 01:47:07,580
I would say kind of lat it's a little bit of a latin, um

1429
01:47:08,140 --> 01:47:09,420
late like

1430
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:15,900
Venetian kind of influence to it has like a kind of sash going over him. It might be a bit holy roman emperor

1431
01:47:16,460 --> 01:47:20,540
Uh vibe to it as well. I'm not sure I don't know colin you might agree

1432
01:47:20,700 --> 01:47:23,420
uh, what kind of the I struggle to think of like what the

1433
01:47:24,060 --> 01:47:29,340
Best way to sign up his look is honestly, I'd say the best way to sum it up is look up the painting

1434
01:47:29,340 --> 01:47:36,140
Having saint michael's killing their dragon or nuts. No, that's not that st. George. Yeah, just look up

1435
01:47:37,580 --> 01:47:42,700
Michael the archangel and you'll get a pretty good idea of what sanguineous looks like

1436
01:47:43,740 --> 01:47:45,740
even the warhammer model is

1437
01:47:46,060 --> 01:47:50,620
Yeah, the warhammer model I think it's actually based on uh, you know this exact painting

1438
01:47:51,580 --> 01:47:54,300
Uh, awesome. Yeah, it's like yeah

1439
01:47:54,300 --> 01:48:00,140
Yeah, as a fighter as well. It's pretty a lot of the primarchs would admit that they reckon they couldn't beat sanguineous

1440
01:48:00,140 --> 01:48:02,460
He's he's arguably the the best at fighting

1441
01:48:03,020 --> 01:48:07,260
Even the even the more cocky primarchs are like I can beat anyone. I think it's leban russ is like

1442
01:48:07,660 --> 01:48:10,940
Oh, I could kill I could kill I could beat and then he goes sanguineous

1443
01:48:11,660 --> 01:48:13,580
He'd give me not sure

1444
01:48:13,580 --> 01:48:19,100
Yeah, that he's always the one that regularly is like oh sanguineous. He could turn the tide of battle. Oh, he's strong

1445
01:48:20,060 --> 01:48:22,060
He's uh, he's kind of

1446
01:48:22,060 --> 01:48:26,400
As much as like fulgum strides perfection. I think sanguineous almost effortlessly

1447
01:48:28,380 --> 01:48:31,340
Is there but he's also not doesn't need to strike. He's already got it

1448
01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:36,060
as for the as for the personality of sanguineous sanguineous is

1449
01:48:36,860 --> 01:48:41,180
There's a reason why he's like a favorite primarch for a lot of people because he's a very noble

1450
01:48:41,980 --> 01:48:46,140
Kind of kind-hearted person like when he actually meets the emperor

1451
01:48:46,780 --> 01:48:49,260
He actually begs the emperor to like because he knows

1452
01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:55,580
What he sanguineous can also actually see sort of visions of the future and he was also funny enough kind of like conrad

1453
01:48:56,140 --> 01:48:59,100
plagued by the vision of his death, which he saw at the hands of

1454
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:04,620
Horus which actually would turn out to be one of his closest friends during the great crusade. So

1455
01:49:05,420 --> 01:49:09,920
He also dealt with the kind of like inner struggle of the future, but he didn't necessarily

1456
01:49:10,860 --> 01:49:16,220
Uh, it didn't damage him internally as much as I think he implies that it's not necessarily

1457
01:49:16,220 --> 01:49:21,660
That it's going to happen because there has been a few instances. We saw something and he managed to change the course of history slightly

1458
01:49:22,060 --> 01:49:26,780
Yeah, it's also the element of oh I could avert this problem because I can see it coming

1459
01:49:27,500 --> 01:49:31,740
He thought there were more like I think dreams to him and he also had a much healthier

1460
01:49:32,060 --> 01:49:36,220
Like again, he was he wasn't really raised by a singular father figure. We had like a family unit

1461
01:49:36,220 --> 01:49:39,660
So he was raised with love and he had a better way of dealing with it

1462
01:49:39,740 --> 01:49:43,260
Shall we say and after you eat rats or people like conrad? Yeah

1463
01:49:43,260 --> 01:49:46,460
Conrad, yeah, it doesn't doesn't skin people alive

1464
01:49:46,700 --> 01:49:52,700
Um, the first person he see wasn't some guy who saw a toddler walk out of a space bar and go i'm gonna kill that thing

1465
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:54,300
It's yummy

1466
01:49:54,300 --> 01:49:57,340
Geez. Yeah, it's a great it's still a grim dark universe

1467
01:49:57,900 --> 01:49:58,700
and

1468
01:49:58,700 --> 01:50:04,540
well, I think that's why a lot of people like sanguin is because quite like a he's a contrast to what is a very

1469
01:50:05,020 --> 01:50:11,260
Grim and you know unforgiving setting the potential of what the universe could be like if it wasn't always at war

1470
01:50:11,260 --> 01:50:14,460
Well, funny enough though all of his I guess noble

1471
01:50:14,940 --> 01:50:16,940
uh traits there are something

1472
01:50:17,180 --> 01:50:20,300
very deeply flawed about sanguinus, which is

1473
01:50:21,180 --> 01:50:23,180
inside of him there is a kind of

1474
01:50:23,900 --> 01:50:25,580
deep like

1475
01:50:25,580 --> 01:50:29,660
Almost to the end of even the horrors area the unspoken rage within him

1476
01:50:29,740 --> 01:50:35,660
It's actually one of it's a flaw that even shows within his sons of blood angel. That's why a lot of people find them

1477
01:50:36,220 --> 01:50:38,460
particularly interesting because they have a kind of inner

1478
01:50:38,460 --> 01:50:41,260
uh darkness to them whereas a lot of the other people have it

1479
01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:44,780
it's like worn on their sleeve, but sanguinus it is a

1480
01:50:45,740 --> 01:50:47,900
almost it's an insecurity of his, uh

1481
01:50:48,860 --> 01:50:54,460
He isn't he knows he's kind of like a he's not a perfect being but he knows he inhabits like virtue

1482
01:50:54,620 --> 01:50:57,420
and so he kind of doesn't really enjoy the fact that he is

1483
01:50:58,140 --> 01:51:00,140
Uh, he has this kind of deep

1484
01:51:00,300 --> 01:51:07,180
Hate within him a little bit, you know a tainting of the darkness in the blood literally is described as and as for his uh inspiration

1485
01:51:07,180 --> 01:51:11,980
Unfortunately, this one is not again as deep as a lot of the other stuff. It just means

1486
01:51:12,780 --> 01:51:14,780
Sanguis is latin for blood

1487
01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:21,100
It literally stolen from the latin obviously there's some biblical inspiration there, but

1488
01:51:21,820 --> 01:51:25,600
This one's a little bit more I guess right on the nose unfortunately

1489
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:36,720
But speaking of on the nose, uh, we will finish up here with our last Primarch. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Javanort bitch

1490
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:39,840
Ferus Manus

1491
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,320
Keyword iron hands

1492
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,480
Yes

1493
01:51:44,480 --> 01:51:47,300
Iron hands keyword stubborn

1494
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:49,280
So

1495
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:53,680
The story of Primarch number 10 is he exits the warp

1496
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:59,520
You know the you know the scattering from terror and he lands upon the world called medusa

1497
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:04,160
Funny enough a greco-roman influence has once again shown up

1498
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:10,740
So pattern the world of medusa is kind of like everything but in grayscale

1499
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:18,480
It sucks. Um, it is just feel like you know black rocks and it's just the skies are dark and grim

1500
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:24,000
Nothing none of the life that grows on this world is particularly

1501
01:52:24,620 --> 01:52:30,720
Interesting. I think they even said I i've been reading one of the books where it says what do they do for food on medusa?

1502
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:32,560
and they

1503
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:37,680
Like have like this weird mollusk that they grind up into like a black paste and that's considered the best food they have

1504
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,120
it takes and so this is a world of just

1505
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,980
Described in one word brutal. It's so unforgiving

1506
01:52:44,980 --> 01:52:48,020
It's not even a death world in the same sense

1507
01:52:48,020 --> 01:52:51,220
The some of the other planets are where like it's actually trying to kill you

1508
01:52:51,220 --> 01:52:56,020
It's just there's nothing that helps you on medusa. It's nothing personal. It just sucks

1509
01:52:56,500 --> 01:53:01,460
It just sucks. It just sucks that you die of boredom and uh ferris manus

1510
01:53:02,020 --> 01:53:05,460
Well, he would not call ferris manus. Yeah, excuse me. So the primarch number 10

1511
01:53:06,260 --> 01:53:08,900
uh, he lands upon this world and

1512
01:53:09,700 --> 01:53:14,020
He's kind of he's alone. He grows up, uh initially like

1513
01:53:14,020 --> 01:53:17,780
Very much by himself doesn't see other humans, but even as a youngster

1514
01:53:18,260 --> 01:53:23,380
It gets worse because he was set upon in his story. It's almost like kind of myth here

1515
01:53:23,380 --> 01:53:28,260
He's set upon by something called the the great silver worm

1516
01:53:28,900 --> 01:53:33,060
Azirnoth, I don't know if i'm saying that properly. Azirnoth I think yeah. Azirnoth and

1517
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:35,780
Sounds kind of necron tier. So

1518
01:53:36,340 --> 01:53:41,380
Oh, yeah, we will and uh, so as a young primarch he's actually immediately attacked by this

1519
01:53:41,380 --> 01:53:45,540
Immediately attacked by this even in the myths of the people who live on this world

1520
01:53:46,020 --> 01:53:49,860
They describe like the silver kind of beast the silver worm

1521
01:53:50,500 --> 01:53:55,460
or the silver dragon and there's actually a there's actually a duel which kind of is a

1522
01:53:55,940 --> 01:54:02,820
Defining moment shall we say so primarch number 10 is immediately almost killed and he eventually battles this

1523
01:54:03,540 --> 01:54:06,420
Worm he doesn't know any you know, he doesn't even speak at this point

1524
01:54:06,420 --> 01:54:12,980
But he's already he knows how to fight because in his dna and he drowns the silver worm in

1525
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:19,380
uh a flow of lava that comes from one of the volcanoes on medusa and

1526
01:54:19,940 --> 01:54:24,980
actually fun enough melts this great silver worm and it starts to like um

1527
01:54:25,780 --> 01:54:31,540
Sort of flow over his arms. It's always the point where it's like near his shoulders like sort of mid-bicep

1528
01:54:32,340 --> 01:54:33,380
and

1529
01:54:33,380 --> 01:54:35,380
these kind of uh

1530
01:54:35,380 --> 01:54:40,340
This actual trait is what then sort of earns him the name ferris manus

1531
01:54:40,500 --> 01:54:45,220
Which funny enough means kind of iron hand in latin or the inspiration part's done now

1532
01:54:45,540 --> 01:54:51,700
but so he is the iron handed primarch and ferris himself is

1533
01:54:52,900 --> 01:54:56,020
The word stubborn doesn't even cut it. He is just um

1534
01:54:56,900 --> 01:55:01,940
Blunt he is blunt is perfect. Yeah blunt is his kind of way. He's very much

1535
01:55:01,940 --> 01:55:06,180
A lead from the front kind of person. He's he is super headstrong

1536
01:55:06,740 --> 01:55:13,700
And this is partly because even though he did eventually find humanity like the people who lived upon this world

1537
01:55:13,700 --> 01:55:19,140
They were semi-technically there. I'll struggle with that word semi-technologically advanced

1538
01:55:19,700 --> 01:55:24,740
the people of medusa are like a they had their own like clan system and the

1539
01:55:25,300 --> 01:55:29,540
Great clans, they were like great clans and minor clans and they were all

1540
01:55:29,540 --> 01:55:34,900
and they were all warring for dominance. It's kind of similar to uh, purjurabo's world, but

1541
01:55:35,860 --> 01:55:40,340
It's actually a little bit more vicious. This was there wasn't politics involved in this

1542
01:55:40,340 --> 01:55:47,220
There were no there wasn't espionage or secrets or anything like that. This was robbers had wine and grapes and yeah

1543
01:55:47,860 --> 01:55:52,820
Medusa had iron and war they had dirt and blood essentially and so

1544
01:55:53,940 --> 01:55:56,500
The entire world was a constant state of war

1545
01:55:56,500 --> 01:55:59,140
and this is when ferris manor showed up and

1546
01:56:00,020 --> 01:56:04,020
As you would probably guess from this person. He was no fulgrum. There was no diplomacy

1547
01:56:04,580 --> 01:56:07,460
Someone who was this headstrong and had to battle like straight away

1548
01:56:08,260 --> 01:56:11,700
Only knew one method and that was essentially combat

1549
01:56:12,420 --> 01:56:13,860
And so he

1550
01:56:13,860 --> 01:56:19,460
Crushed literally under his iron fist. He actually crushed them into submission the people of medusa

1551
01:56:19,940 --> 01:56:23,060
But kind of uniquely amongst his uh brothers

1552
01:56:23,060 --> 01:56:29,140
A lot of them might unite the world and it's like an age of peace, but ferris himself always saw

1553
01:56:29,780 --> 01:56:31,780
He can even see it from his earliest

1554
01:56:32,180 --> 01:56:38,100
Existence he just sees peace as a weakness because he always thinks he almost died like immediately

1555
01:56:38,420 --> 01:56:45,940
It seems he was essentially conscious. So he always sees himself as um need to improve himself be stronger

1556
01:56:45,940 --> 01:56:51,860
You know survive live, you know adapt. Yeah, like struggle brings growth. Look at me. I got some iron hands

1557
01:56:51,860 --> 01:56:55,460
I got some iron hands. Yes. Yeah, and he um

1558
01:56:56,100 --> 01:57:00,420
Yeah, so he the clans of medusa themselves. He actually doesn't unite the clans

1559
01:57:00,500 --> 01:57:06,020
He keeps the system intact and he kind of acts as this kind of overseer of the world where

1560
01:57:06,580 --> 01:57:10,500
He is a uniting force at times but then in times of peace

1561
01:57:11,380 --> 01:57:18,020
He will let the inter-clan struggles reunite again because it keeps him strong. It keeps the people on survival mode

1562
01:57:18,580 --> 01:57:20,580
and this is kind of uh his

1563
01:57:20,580 --> 01:57:24,120
His tactic and his philosophy in the world, but also

1564
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:31,960
kind of the other thing about places where war happens obviously war also will breed innovation and

1565
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:36,600
Medusa itself was I wouldn't say it's not a forge world

1566
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,920
I described in much of warhammer, but forging crafting

1567
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:46,680
The metallurgy of the yeah, it's very much industrious and even ferris within himself

1568
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:52,280
He actually had like of an innate ability to craft and produce things. He could actually

1569
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:58,840
I think it's even funny said like vulcan another primarch. He says it's unnerving that ferris with his iron hands

1570
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,400
I like kind of mold. They're like molten silver arms

1571
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:04,440
Well, even where he grew up in his little cave area

1572
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:11,800
It's it's basically like a buried necron tomb and he grew up observing. What is this drop pod thing? That's weird

1573
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:15,800
What's this metal that's weird and he grew up trying to understand it all

1574
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:21,560
And he the unnerving part about him is he can forge with his hands like a lot with a hammer

1575
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:23,720
and um

1576
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,840
So he he learns to build and craft but a lot of the times

1577
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:33,320
Like whereas some might say, you know blacksmithing and crafting is an art form, which obviously it is

1578
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:39,420
His crafting was always functional. It was in the pursuit of strength and improvement

1579
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:44,120
And though not all the thing he not everything he made was ugly. It was always designed to be

1580
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:47,900
be functional and you know function of a form essentially

1581
01:58:48,700 --> 01:58:49,580
and

1582
01:58:49,580 --> 01:58:55,740
The way so if you were to sort of see uh ferris manus himself his aesthetics again number one enormous

1583
01:58:56,220 --> 01:58:57,900
huge tanky

1584
01:58:57,900 --> 01:58:59,900
uh, he's kind of

1585
01:58:59,900 --> 01:59:04,940
I wouldn't say he's the chunkiest of all the primarchs, but he kind of rivals poterabo obviously both of them having a

1586
01:59:05,420 --> 01:59:12,780
Sort of thing for the word iron definitely not the prettiest. I'll get to that where so he's got slightly slightly tan skin

1587
01:59:12,780 --> 01:59:15,340
uh again like greco kind of

1588
01:59:16,060 --> 01:59:18,060
uh european features

1589
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:23,660
silver arms, uh, that's from his battle with the worm is one of his most defining

1590
01:59:24,460 --> 01:59:26,460
sort of characteristics and

1591
01:59:26,620 --> 01:59:32,380
Ferris was not described as a beautiful man. He was nicknamed by fulgrum the gorgon

1592
01:59:32,860 --> 01:59:38,300
as like but it's actually a quite funny inside joke between them, but he is uh,

1593
01:59:38,940 --> 01:59:41,740
Even like even his face is it's a brutal

1594
01:59:41,740 --> 01:59:43,340
design

1595
01:59:43,340 --> 01:59:49,660
Uh there again, I know it's form over function, you know, you do this face. He's been like punched a hundred times

1596
01:59:49,980 --> 01:59:55,740
Yeah, he's almost I think they like even they describe he's a beautiful in his own strange way of being like just the most

1597
01:59:56,940 --> 01:59:58,780
uh exact

1598
01:59:58,780 --> 02:00:02,780
Form if you know, his face was the form of what it looked like he'd been chilled

1599
02:00:03,340 --> 02:00:10,300
So just like around and becomes beautiful. Yeah, essentially like it's a hard way to describe it, but essentially comes back around

1600
02:00:10,300 --> 02:00:12,300
like a pug

1601
02:00:17,020 --> 02:00:23,260
And that even his war gear is like bulky and he is it's again it projects strength and

1602
02:00:23,980 --> 02:00:27,340
Uh, his personality is as I said earlier, it's stubborn

1603
02:00:27,340 --> 02:00:32,460
He's extremely stubborn compared to a lot of his brothers and he's quite hot-headed at times, but

1604
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:35,100
he also

1605
02:00:35,100 --> 02:00:39,180
I know hot-headed um spoilers, um, but he's also

1606
02:00:39,180 --> 02:00:46,060
So weirdly enough he has a pursuit of kind of like fulgrum of perfection itself, but in a different view of that

1607
02:00:46,060 --> 02:00:48,140
So he wishes to be perfect to be

1608
02:00:49,180 --> 02:00:50,700
the strongest being

1609
02:00:50,700 --> 02:00:55,260
He wishes to be perfect because not because he wishes to be perfect itself

1610
02:00:55,340 --> 02:01:00,140
But because he despises the opposite which is weakness because weakness could get you killed

1611
02:01:00,540 --> 02:01:03,500
It's like perfect in function not aesthetic very much

1612
02:01:03,580 --> 02:01:08,460
So and like even when he meets his story of when he meets the emperor because he actually meet he's the

1613
02:01:08,460 --> 02:01:13,660
With third or fourth, I think primarch found when he meets before I think he because it will be

1614
02:01:14,220 --> 02:01:18,940
time as lehman about the same time as lehman and when he actually meets the emperor he

1615
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,300
challenges the emperor to a fight and

1616
02:01:23,500 --> 02:01:27,500
Uh, this is that this is the time where he's been the strongest thing on that planet

1617
02:01:28,220 --> 02:01:32,860
For a while and the idea of when he meets the emperor and there's a being much stronger than him

1618
02:01:32,860 --> 02:01:36,140
It's actually something where he sorry. It's actually something which drives him

1619
02:01:36,140 --> 02:01:43,900
Uh to be even stronger the reason he actually in his own heart improves to be so strong and to be perfect

1620
02:01:44,460 --> 02:01:49,580
It's one day he actually wants to challenge the emperor but not in a way like he wants to be emperor

1621
02:01:49,580 --> 02:01:51,580
He just wants to be as strong as the emperor

1622
02:01:53,020 --> 02:01:59,520
I like the uh, the the meme from kung fu panda. It's like finally a worthy opponent our battle shall be legendary

1623
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:04,640
Me pretty much he's did the hit what it wasn't like a dragon ball z battle like they were just

1624
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,440
Punching mountain ranges in half pretty much

1625
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:11,440
Oh good old dragon boy. Unfortunately, he has no drip. Um

1626
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:19,440
It's all function no drip no risk he can't turn blonde and become 50 times as powerful either that

1627
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:26,800
He is like if you saw sanguineous and then uh ferris you'd be like wait those two are brothers like that's

1628
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,760
Just it's like what's the film with like arnold schwarzenegger and uh,

1629
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:32,560
Danny davito and they're meant to be brothers

1630
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,400
so our film

1631
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,400
um very much so apart from

1632
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:44,320
Danny davito is the same height as arnold which is amazing in my mind. I was imagining him coming out the couch and um always sunny

1633
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:47,200
Everyone knows that scene

1634
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:50,480
and obviously lastly the inspiration for ferris is

1635
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:55,120
Latin for iron hand. It's again very on the nose on this one

1636
02:02:55,120 --> 02:03:01,120
But it kind of is an encompassing thing for them the iron hand to themselves is you know iron is

1637
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:05,680
Immute to them is like it's immutable. It's an iron fist of will its strength and

1638
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:09,360
That's pretty much I think the first 10

1639
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:14,800
Primarchs they won't have any questions or want to comment perhaps on their favorite out of the list

1640
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:17,680
I like the pretty one

1641
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:22,960
We're going to order so Eli Eli, who's your who's your favorite so still full room

1642
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:27,120
Of course, of course, just you know, would you explain why?

1643
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:35,040
Why is full groom your favorite and any of ever asked probably because uh, I read the book full groom first

1644
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:43,280
Fair enough likely the reason I also just like his story a lot and he has the saddest story of all the primarchs

1645
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:45,840
first loves

1646
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:51,360
Yeah, I think it's cool. It's cool that he's one of the only ones that has some regrets about it all

1647
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,920
but just like specifically with all right, well like

1648
02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:59,600
I don't want to also also pretty fall full groom was like

1649
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:02,320
There's a lot of good reasons to like him. I think

1650
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:10,560
Just uh without spoilers regrets over what he did to a certain person that he kept trying to clone that certain person

1651
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:14,960
And it never works, but he doesn't give up. It's like it's very sad very

1652
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:19,600
Compelling. What about uh, what about you andy? Who's your favorite so far?

1653
02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:25,040
Without a doubt jagatai. He's my favorite. He always has been speedway. Why is your favorite?

1654
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:30,320
for sure, um, there's there's several reasons one because he's amazing at one liners, but um,

1655
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:33,440
I like how he is the most um

1656
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:39,920
He's very critical of things that are objectively wrong in the universe like some of the decisions the emperor makes

1657
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:47,760
He's he he shows restraint when other primarchs don't he doesn't boast but he's competent. He's a very

1658
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:52,480
He's a very he's very much. Um a difficult primarch to like people go

1659
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:58,080
I just some dude but when you actually like look into his stories and his books I find him the most compelling

1660
02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:02,160
I do like other ones like I like I like gilliman. I like the lion to an extent

1661
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:07,840
But you know, i'm a loyalist fan more than any and khan is the one for me

1662
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:12,560
Awesome, and you colin who's your favorite so far of the first 10?

1663
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:19,840
Probably honestly liam, uh, I don't like the wolves, but I do like liam a lot. He's uh, he's pretty down to earth

1664
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:23,120
he seems in many ways one of the most human primarchs because

1665
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:28,320
Yeah, I don't know. He like he seems like the kind of guy I could have a drink with

1666
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:30,800
I would not remember any of that

1667
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:36,480
But like it just seems like like just like a guy he'd be fun to hang out with

1668
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:40,960
He's nice contrast as well compared to a lot of them are essentially just

1669
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:44,880
Like greco-roman warlords. So he's a nice little extra flavor

1670
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:49,520
I wish his legion was actually vikings and not just viking cosplayers

1671
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:52,560
Less of wolves more vikings

1672
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:57,680
Well, uh, thank you so much for listening. We covered a lot, uh today

1673
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:04,400
What's funny enough is actually just a taster of what is to come from all the primarchs and we will obviously delve into

1674
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:06,320
each of them

1675
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:08,320
uh and their histories and

1676
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:14,240
It's again there, you know primarchs are definitely sort of the best part of warhammer. They are deeply

1677
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,600
flawed human despite their elevation and

1678
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:22,080
We'll be learning a lot more about them in the uh episodes to come

1679
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:26,560
Uh, thank you so much for listening for enduring

1680
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:28,320
That's what we say

1681
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,720
Enduring this uh absolute

1682
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:35,040
Fest and colin who who will be tackling next?

1683
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:40,880
Happily, I will let them know. So of course we're going to bring, you know, their primarch up kind of hard not to

1684
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:47,600
Robutei gilliman, but the focus will not be on him. It will be on his legion later chapter

1685
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:50,880
The greatest of them all the ultramarines

1686
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:54,000
Oh

1687
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,880
Not

1688
02:06:57,600 --> 02:06:59,600
I love my

1689
02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:05,200
Uh matt ward aside, I love my i'm leaving a picture of matt ward at the end of this podcast

1690
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:09,120
That's the final picture. Did you know he wrote the dialogue for vermintide?

1691
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:11,680
What?

1692
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:12,880
Yeah, honestly

1693
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:18,480
Didn't he write the demon kid arbor as well? I don't know that's neil graham

1694
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:21,280
I think battle fleet gothic too

1695
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:24,960
So it turns out he's a pretty goddamn good writer when he's just writing dialogue

1696
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:29,600
Just don't put him in charge of the setting just don't put any armor that's blue near him

1697
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:34,240
Or gray or gray or the gray knights as well. Yeah

1698
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:39,280
Well, thank you so much for listening. Uh, please like and subscribe if you want to hear more

1699
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:43,840
Uh also comment below out of your list so far, which one's your favorite?

1700
02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:46,400
we'd love to know your reasons why particularly because

1701
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:51,760
I've all got like our own reasons like sometimes it's you know, it's our own like relation to that person

1702
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:57,840
And like I said, you know having a beer with a good old leman russe, but uh, thank you so much for listening

1703
02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:00,080
And we'll see you all next time

1704
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:22,080
I'll be back here if you want

1705
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:32,080
You