You know who they remind me of?
That elf in Skyrim, is it Whiterun?
Where he's just like, have you ever been to the Sky district?
That's not an elf, that's disease!
That's not an elf!
That's disease!
He's a red guy.
Just a dude, okay.
Well, he had the snooty voice, so I assumed he was an elf, cause you know, I don't like snooty voices.
Alright, hang on now.
I'll stomach the Eldar slander to an extent.
Don't compare anyone to Nazeem.
Do you get to the Cloud district very often, elf?
No, I'm not kidding.
The only thing is, Skyrim is not as good as Oblivion because you don't get the fan from the arena who follows you around the torch.
And occasionally falls off cliffs and dies, and you're like, oh, that's a shame.
How do you know that reference so well, but yet Nazeem tripped you off?
I just remember his voice more than what he wore or what he looked like.
I'm just like, oh, I just remember that snooty elf.
He's not an elf!
Yeah, but I thought he was, cause he's like, oh, I'm so cool, look at me.
Like, go away.
Sorry for the people who came for their warhammer quiz and talking about Nazeem and the Cloud district.
Thalmor is cool.
We can all agree that any Thalmor patrols we come across in the wild will not be getting back to the embassy.
True, true.
Hello, law criminals and welcome to another episode of the pub quiz.
And today we'll be talking about the Gorgon, the Primarch Ferus Manus.
And helping it today will be our Chad, our main man, our favorite probably in all of law crimes, let's be honest.
It's Andy. Andy, take it away.
What was I calling?
We have personal favorites and you are our absolute Chad of an editor.
And now Eli is our favorite.
I'm hyping it up. Enjoy the...
Enjoy the favoritism until the next quiz when the next person is now our favorite.
I see how it is. I see how it is.
Buttering you up for points.
Yes.
I will say I'm not giving you any special treatment.
This is a quiz. This is not, you know, like, oh, but, you know, that thing where like people give the apple to the teacher at the end of the class.
Like, can I get a better grade next week?
No. Why are you bribing me with fruit like an Indiana Jones?
Anyway.
You were working on me when I was teaching.
Really?
No one tried it.
Oh, fair enough.
Oh, today I will also apologize.
I've got a bit of a scratchy throat today.
So if anyone's going, oh, Andy sounds a bit rough.
That's why.
But today, yes, we will be covering the Primark of the iron 10th, the one who is known as Mr. Irony Handyman, Ferris Manus.
So how let's go through the the board.
We'll start off with let me just double check something quickly.
OK, so I'm going to go through the team and ask everyone how their iron hands and by extension Ferris Manus law is.
So starting from Eli, how is your information and knowledge about the man who is known as Metal Hand Daddy?
Could be.
It could be better, you know, but I mean, my favorite legion is the one that killed him.
So, you know, know your enemy or something, I guess.
I like Ferris. He's a bro.
He's dead.
Just because he could probably lift more than any other Primark, is that why?
Yeah, that is why I like him.
Do you reckon his metal hands would help or hinder him?
No, probably help. Yeah, would they would help.
He wouldn't get tired in his arms.
Yeah, if they're rigid enough.
Oy, oy, oy, oy, oy, oy.
It's out with a Christian channel, my dear.
OK, OK. Well, all right.
Then how is your turn?
How is your information or knowledge on rigid manners?
Oh, I smell like blood in the water.
I sense weakness, boys, because this is something I'm literally doing a video on.
So I hope I win, because if I don't know Ferris Mannes, I am going to absolutely be disappointed in myself.
But yeah, I feel your video will be like, oh, Eli beat you at the quiz.
And you're like, don't remind me.
I think I will actually have a nice cry after and no one will shame me because men are allowed to cry.
But this will be a very undeserving cry.
But I feel I feel strong about this one because, yeah, I'm very lucky that it coincides with my research.
So come on.
Do you have a particular soft spot for the Ironhands or just research, you were just doing them at the time?
I do. I do. They're kind of they're kind of my favorite.
I would say Ferris is not my favorite Primarch, but Ironhands is my favorite chapter because they're so broken.
They're so miserable and they're so grimdark.
And yeah, I like that. It's all good.
OK. And to finish off our collective knowledge, Colin, how is your knowledge on daddy Mannes?
I will say I will be very happy to coast off my victory last week and last time.
Just accept I'm just going to be here for the ride and giving many haircut jokes.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
I don't. I don't.
It's getting early.
I don't.
It's disgusting.
I don't much care for Ferris Mannes, positively or negatively.
I got to be honest. He never he never struck my interest.
Nor did the writers, apparently.
No. And I regularly confuse the Ironhands with the Iron Warriors.
So probably not going to be winning this one.
You're a heresy.
I'm not sure I used to say that as a Warhammer YouTuber, to be honest.
All of the Monkai look the same.
I will say it's been an interesting task compiling questions for this particular episode because Ferris gets the least law of any of the Primarchs by a large margin.
And yeah, it's been an interesting one compiling questions and I think I think he's actually one of my preferred or not favorites, but I definitely I definitely like Ferris because the glints of law you get from him can be so good.
They're just so scarce that people for the most part don't read them, you know.
It's hard to find it as well.
They're in little short stories a lot of the time.
We were talking about that before and yeah, I guess apparently half the Ferris Manus lore isn't in his book.
Yeah, it's in like short stories and stuff.
Okay, which I have now read.
Here it comes.
Bring it on.
Sense weakness.
Blow in the water.
I feel like we need to have like betting odds on the side of the face.
Like so the odds are Hal at one to three and Colin at ten to one.
Okay, place your bets.
I want to shout their catchphrase, but I feel like that might be an answer to a question. So I'm holding back.
But once it's out there, I'm going to say it.
Well it's not. You can if you want.
Okay, the flesh is weak boys. The flesh is weak.
The flesh is weak.
Yeah, see I was going to say iron within iron without and that's again, that's the wrong one.
Get him out of here.
You said I shouldn't be saying this as a Warhammer YouTuber. You forget to consider I never had any credibility to begin with.
Actually, I shouldn't be talking Mr. Death Guard Kifers game.
That was the biggest. I'm so proud of that moment because it's just so funny and stupid.
Sorry, I'm distracted.
Another this banter.
Anyway, so we're going to start off with the beginner section. I would be surprised if you didn't get these questions.
There might be one that trips you up there. They're actually quite good. So let's start with the definitely the easiest.
Eris Manus would be given a nickname by his most cherished Primarch brother, Fulgrim, based on an ancient Terran myth.
What was the nickname? If you don't get this, hand in your law crimes and your YouTube. There we go. Easy. Done.
Oh, thank God. Solid one. Solid.
Even if you're not even even like that into Warhammer, I feel like if you don't get this one, just just leave.
Like it's not going to work. Sorry. It's the easiest.
How would you get it wrong?
We can explain why he gets it to you later.
It helps us plan it is the same thing.
Yeah, there is that I suppose. OK, so.
That's the easy one. Right. Question number two. Not too bad. Eris and Fulgrim would compete to craft a weapon of absolute perfect quality to show off their abilities as artisans, and they would gift the weapons to each other as a sign of their sibling brotherhood.
What was the name crafted by Ferus?
The name of the weapon specifically. The weapon he crafted and gave to Fulgrim.
The name of it, not the type of it?
Yep. Oh man.
Do you know what's funny is we just, we have previously recorded a Primarchs podcast, definitely go check that out, and we actually made a law crime within that and we used the wrong name for that weapon.
Really?
I just, I meditated.
We used the wrong name for that weapon when we talked about Ferus in that podcast.
I don't know what the name is, and oh my gosh.
So Eli, that's a bit of a save there for you if you were.
Interesting. I've had all the answers in.
They're interesting. I'll give them, you know, a varied.
It's like I can see how each of you have gotten to your answer, and they're all different in the way you've managed it.
The flaming Dorito is the true answer.
The true spicy one. And last of the beginner section, we're slightly cranking up the difficulty.
Before Vulcan would be chosen to steer humanity away from damnation during the Horus heresy, Ferus would be chosen as the linchpin to a brighter future.
Who would contact Ferus with a vision of the impending civil war of humanity?
Who contacted Ferus was like, it's all about to go tits up. I need you to sort it out. And Ferus said, no, I'm not listening to what you say.
No way.
Do you have to specify the name of the person or the type or the group?
The person.
Oh, the person. I don't remember the exact name, but I kind of know.
It's a well-known character.
I have a very vague idea of the group, at least I think, so I just picked a name from it.
And if it helps, the same character, I believe I'm correct in saying that this is the same character also, he contacts Vulcan when you know, like Ferus, like, right, that didn't work.
Okay, I'll talk to Vulcan. He seems like he has a hammer as well. This is the war hammer 40.
He has.
He is in fact the war hammer 40k. The true war hammer 40k was the 40k we made along the way.
You all just lore-crime. This was still 30k.
Oh, that's true.
Now who needs to revoke the YouTube license?
Yes, take my license back. Put it in the bin.
Just scroll up. Settings, delete channel.
I'm off YouTube now.
I don't do videos on my channel there. I was panicking.
Oh, Lord.
Okay, I've had all of the answers in. Would we like to hear some results?
If they're good.
I'm excited to hear the first question because I got that one right and then the rest happened.
Right, I would have been offended. I would have been physically sick if you didn't get the first one.
So, Fulgrim gave a nickname to Ferus Manus. It was made in jest. It was not very flattering, but Ferus really enjoyed it.
It was a nickname about how ugly his exterior was and how brash and harsh he was as a not just his look, but how he dealt with people.
And it was based on the ancient Terran myth of the Gorgon. And you know, that's the answer. You all got it correct.
It was the Gorgon. Kind of on the nose. He's from the planet Medusa. So you're like, oh yeah, kind of makes sense.
Easy. Easy money that one. I'm glad.
I would have been very annoyed if you got that wrong.
Yeah, that would have, that would actually have to like put in our credibility and leave if we got that one wrong. Oh man.
Right. So, question number two. So, Ferus and Fulgrim were best buds. They were, they were, of all the relationships between Primarchs,
they arguably had the closest bond because it was weird that they had, they were polar opposites.
You know, here's Fulgrim, this very vain, very pretty boy. Here's Ferus, this very on the nose, tough, ugly guy who's very brash and harsh.
And they kind of joked and jabbed at each other about how they were so different.
And yet they also were both great artisans and great craftsmen.
And so they had a competition to create basically the perfect weapon they could craft.
And Fulgrim created the war hammer known as Forgebreaker.
But the question was, what was the weapon that Ferus created?
Now, start with Eli. Eli was close. Eli put Firebrand.
Oh, that was, that's what we put in our original video. Yeah.
Flamebrand. Yeah.
It's not Fireblade, is it? It's more on the nose.
Is it really Fireblade?
Well, how? He put Fireblade, which is correct.
I was gonna put that and then I thought, man, that sounds really stupid.
It is stupid. This is Warhammer.
I think it kind of works with Ferus though, just like, oh, it's a blade, it's on fire.
Fireblade. I did good.
I am good at making things.
I do like Colin's meme answer though, he just called it Ballbreaker.
Oh Lord.
It's a sword. Like, how would you break a ball with a sword? Like a hammer, I get like, yeah, you could be like, crush him like a grape.
Have you ever played, do you know the game For Honor?
Fortnite? Not Fortnite. Yeah.
You know what Fortnite is? Wow.
Ferus starts doing the dance.
Stop. You found that.
But you see, there's the execution. I think it was one of the first ones in the game where the knight takes their sword.
And she bashes them over in the head with the hilt and kills them that way.
So you can do it. You just got to grab it by the blade, which normally you can't do, but Ferus Manus has iron hands so he can.
I like that answer better. Also, I was thinking of Jairo Zappelli.
So JoJo, it's a stand ballbreaker.
Man, you sound like the kind of guy to watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventures.
Goddamn right, I'm the kind of guy to watch that show.
But what's really bizarre to him is you get those bitches.
I'm a Warhammer YouTuber. I assume that was going to happen from the start.
Are you going to one day retire from doing Warhammer? You're like, I'm a JoJo channel now.
I'm just going to do it.
Yeah, when I feel like not getting any more views, I'll do that.
The memes keep popping.
The memes keep popping and so with the copyright infringement, it's right.
All the comments of Jonathan just going, oh my God.
That's Joseph the uncultured swine.
Didn't you post Mephiston videos?
Oh, he's the second one, isn't he? Jonathan's the first one. My mistake.
I've probably used it. I know in our first podcast I put Dio in it because we were talking about time travel.
Shh, don't tell anyone.
Didn't you also make a Mephiston video that's like five seconds long?
I did. It was in five seconds that I just poorly pasted Mephiston's head over Dio's stopping time.
Classic. Classic.
It's like I said, I have no qualifications and I'm here to shitpost.
Okay, right.
Right.
He sensed a disappointment already in all of us, Andy.
So this one was actually quite interesting because we have two answers that were given.
So I'll start with Eli and both Eli and Colin put the same answer, which was John Grammaticus.
Eli put and his buddies, which is like the cabal, which is like, okay, you're not far off, but it's not John Grammaticus that contacts him.
In fact, I'll say actually what Hal put. Hal put Eldrad because Eldrad was the one that I just steered him to.
Oh my gosh.
Because he also contacts Vulcan and there's that whole thing, there's this whole anthology of books.
I read it recently, like book 45, and it's all Salamander stuff and it's him talking to Vulcan like,
I originally chose your brother to try and stop this and he was just like, ugh, Xenos, and he would have listened.
I've actually read the short story this is in, like a week ago, so this is the luckiest I'll ever get in the quiz.
I've second-guessed myself to the bottom of the leaderboard on both of these questions now.
Not listening to the elder causes problems. What a surprise.
To be fair, they were the most cryptic instructions. It's like there's a bunch of, like a council I think it is of like, farseers,
and they try to contact Farus during a battle and Gabriel Santar, and he's like separated from the Iron Hands,
and they're like, oh, something's gonna happen. He's like, speak plainly, you filth, and they're like, oh, something's gonna happen.
Could you just say what is gonna happen rather than being like piffy?
And yeah, that's the problem with the Eldar. They can't get to the point. They have to be cryptic.
If two primarchs can't understand the message, then what worth does humanity have compared to the Eldar?
If you didn't know where it was going, like, and you were reading the book, you'd be like, what is he talking about?
He couldn't be more obtuse if he tried.
Well, maybe Farus shouldn't be like me and he should have read the Horus heresy books.
That's a common name.
So are you saying you are Farus Manus?
I am partially artificial. I do have an insulin pump.
Farus Pancras.
Upgrades. Flesh is weak. Oh my lord.
This reminds me of the voice you did there, Andy, about, you know, the Simpsons episode where like the glowing, is it burns?
He's like glowing and he's in the forest and everyone thinks he's an alien, but he's actually irradiated.
That's what you remind me of.
It's an alien. Kill it. No, it's Mr. Birds. It's Mr. Birds. Kill it.
That's how the Eldar talk. 100%. This is canon.
I also want to, I want to actually defend myself because I actually know this bit of lore for once.
I thought it was John Grammaticus because I know he talked like, oh, this is this is a Vulcan quiz.
I can't really spoil a quiz. I know he stabs Vulcan with like a. Yeah, with the Fulgarite.
Yeah. So I knew I knew he talked to Vulcan.
Maybe he talked to Farus too.
But I also knew Eldrad because I wanted to get Eldrad too.
I was like, I know he talked to Eldrad Vulcan.
Well, during the same time, it's like Eldrad is fostering Barthuza Narek from the word bearers.
He's like a he's not really a loyalist word bearer, but he's like, I hate my legion.
I'm still loyal to the emperor, but I'm going to kill any salamanders that get in my way.
And he's kind of looking after him and using him as his little kind of not bodyguard.
But like he's like, you're useful. You're on nocturne. You're going to burn to a crisp.
Join me and I'll help you kill your Primarch. He's a traitor. Traitor.
What he's like a proper renegade is probably the best way to describe it.
And he's a really cool character. And Eldrad's doing that.
And then Grammaticus is like, well, I guess I'm going to go stab me a Primarch.
And you're like, John, what are you doing? You're drunk. Go home.
No, don't worry. It's a magical step.
Why did John Grammaticus line there to sound like the Morgan Freeman from that old scene in his video?
Like, I can smell you.
I'm creeping in.
Yeah. Old YouTube reference there.
There's 100% I'm mentioning that and someone's going to get that recommended to them and they're going to freak the hell out of us.
Someone's got to figure out how to work with Ray William Johnson into this.
I'm just thinking of the one where he says the sort of naughty words inside of his agenda.
Let's not go there. Moving on.
Moving swiftly on before we demonetize. Question. Question number four.
Are we ready? Yes, please.
OK. So these ones are a bit trickier, but I'm going to go through it slowly.
So Ferus, upon arriving on his homeworld of Medusa, would be attacked by a gigantic Necron construct.
She would battle to earn his iconic metal hands.
What was the name of the creature?
It's tickling my brain.
And we mentioned this not long ago too.
And you actually mentioned this in your memory.
Very recently.
You sneaky man.
Colin's given me an answer.
It is on the tip of my brain, but I don't remember what it's called.
It's the inflection of how I said it. That's how I remember it.
It's actually Ray William Johnson.
That would be way funnier.
I don't know if I spelt it right, but I think I know.
You're fine. You're fine.
The Necron construct he found was the last Primarch.
Necron Construct face.
That one was really putting it.
That was like scraped in my brain the way it was processing it.
It tore the tissue of my brain banks there.
I was like, oh, I don't want to cram this in there.
Couldn't even go with immortal make immortal fate.
They have plenty of units.
Okay.
We got an answer from Eli.
I wish I'd chosen a funny answer now because it would have been way better.
This is the opportunity.
Eli is just mulling.
I can't remember it.
The flesh is weak.
Everyone, the flesh is weak.
The flesh is weak and this quiz is proving it.
Okay.
Question number five.
Each of the Primarchs were found at different stages of the Great Crusade.
Of all the 20 Primarchs, which number was Ferus found?
I'm going to point out, Alpharius does not count in this answer.
Ignore that the first Primarch quote found by the Emperor was Alpharius.
Ignore him.
What number was he found?
I've got two numbers in my head because I don't know if there's a certain...
There is a definitive escalation of numbers.
I will say that there is no shared number.
It goes up each time.
I have.
I also know the...
It's interesting.
I was looking up the list.
I think it's the 11th Primarch was found second to last.
He was found 19th.
I was like, oh, that's interesting.
The other one was found fairly early.
I'm like, huh.
I wonder what he did.
That's the one I'm thinking of.
He was found so late and still messed it up.
I think that might have been why because the second one was the one Fulcrum was like,
yeah, he's kind of a humorless dick, isn't he?
That was the second one he was talking about.
He was very straight faced and apparently a bit hypocritical.
I think they didn't name the lost and the forgotten, aren't they?
The missing Primarch.
I'm guessing one of them...
I think the second Primarch is obviously the forgotten and maybe 19th was in some way,
quote unquote, lost or he was perhaps lost to another faction.
If you know what I mean.
I had to get to this way.
The only Primarch to be found after him on record is Zalfarius, which we know is not true.
OmegaGon.
OmegaGon was the last one found.
So he was technically the last Primarch found.
But...
I hate the Alpha Legion.
Tricky.
They have a weird Spaceballs vibe to them.
If you're into the Alpha Legion, it's like, oh, this is the coolest Legion out there.
And then if you're not a diehard fan, you just despise how like, oh yes, we're the people
in the know.
Wink, wink.
It just shuts up.
I can just imagine them swallowing the arms of Sherry.
Mylores, whatever I want it to be, because secrets.
You know who they remind me of?
That elf in Skyrim.
Is it Whiterun?
Where he's just like, have you ever been to the Sky District?
That's not an elf, that's N'Zim.
That's not an elf.
He's not an elf.
That's N'Zim.
He's a red guy.
He's a guy, he's a red guy.
He's a dude, okay.
Well, he had the snooty voice, so I assumed he was an elf, because you know, he had all
those voices.
Alright, hang on now.
I'll stomach the Eldar slander to an extent.
Don't compare anyone to N'Zim.
Wow.
Do you get to the Cloud District very often, elf?
Oh man.
That's triggering.
Sorry Skyrim fans, sorry.
N'Zim is the second person I kill in every playthrough.
Right behind that guy in front of the Talo statue screaming about him.
It's because he's annoying.
This is the big question.
Since you see the companions outside Whiterun, do you let them kill the giant, or do you
watch, or do you help?
That's the big question.
If I have a bow, I'll shoot at it, because otherwise I can't make it in time, because
the giant has like, two health.
And then they yell at me like, oh, you didn't participate.
I was across the country by the time you started fighting.
Or even at any point during the game, like, you could be level 60, you know, Grandmaster
of Winterhold College, and they're like, oh, you look pretty weak.
I mean, like, I could annihilate your entire bloodline.
Stop talking to me.
You saw me kill Alduin.
You know what I can do.
I killed Alduin.
Don't talk to me and my son ever again.
The only thing is Skyrim is not as good as Oblivion because you don't get the fan from
the arena who follows you around the torch, and occasionally falls off cliffs and dies,
and you're like, oh, that's a shame.
I remember that reference so well, but yet Nazeem tripped you over.
Lord.
I don't, I just remember his voice more than what he wore or what he looked like.
I'm just like, oh, I just remember that snooty elf.
He's not an elf.
He should be able to hire 40 ones, because he's like, oh, I'm so cool.
Look at me.
Like, go away.
Sorry for the people who came for their warhammer quiz and talking about Nazeem and the clouds.
That was cool.
We can all agree that any Thalmor patrols we come across in the wild will not be getting
back to the embassy.
True.
Right.
Let's steer this Warhammer based podcast quiz back to Warhammer.
So the last question of the intermediate section is this.
With Ferris's death at the hands of Fulgrim, a demon presence would be formed from the
Gorgon's anger, pride and shame.
What was the demon's name?
Oh, thank you.
It's more like a title than a name, I will say.
This, if anyone wants to cite the clue for this as well, this comes up in the actual
modern 40k Ironhand books too.
This title.
I'm so glad that I have read it recently because I wouldn't have known this.
That should tell you what kind of answer it is.
You know, intentionally, not intentionally, but initially that wasn't even the intention,
that's just a name from something else.
And then I realized before I had said, oh, that's perfect.
It's very to the point.
It's very short, like, done.
Much like the act was very to the point.
I've been watching anime and being lonely.
I've been training for this quiz for years.
It's not even an anime joke.
Yeah, I know, but I'm just guessing.
Oh man, please tell me, Eli, you are suffering too, because I don't need to catch up.
Yes.
Freshers week.
Thing is, I'm getting a bit like, I'm looking at Hal's podium with all the dots and I'm
like, he's getting close to his first gold stud, so I need to catch up.
That's until we do a corn quiz, or I think corn related, and then I am white.
We should do a total war quiz at some point and then Colin Rogers annihilate everybody.
Yes.
I haven't even played, but I'm just going to sit out and drink tea.
What is the starting position of Teclis in the Immortal Empires campaign?
Get out of here.
Oh, Lord.
Come on.
He's in the Southlands.
Yeah, he's in the new Thunderdome.
He moved from Lustria where everyone kicks the crap out of him to the Southlands where
everyone kicks the crap out of him again.
Why is Scarbrand in the middle of all of that?
That's the funniest part to me.
Is this some kind of game play?
Because if he wasn't there, it would be almost manageable, but you have a greater demon of
corn in the middle of all these legendary Lords.
You have Orcs, Skaven, Tomb Kings.
Queeks right there, the entire Tomb Kings are about 10 feet to the south.
Shame there's no...
Tomb Kings don't bleed, do they?
They don't. Not much to offer corn, although they do have skulls.
You just see the kind of paste onto the floor.
Both the skull comes pre-skinned for the Skull Throne.
You don't have to do any of that work.
I did wonder how the corn boys actually like...
I can just imagine they're like, we did the battle!
Yeah! And they're like, oh, we've got to pick all the skin off.
Lacking up pennies.
Like peeling potatoes, but worse.
They're taking ages.
They're probably really mundane about corn worship.
Probably really annoyed with the Tomb Kings in that case, because while it does come pre-cleaned,
they get back up if you take too long.
So the guy you're trying to put on the throne stands back up and shakes you in the ribs.
I'm just imagining you put a skull in the throne, and then halfway when it's being assembled,
it rises and it just falls apart like a block of Jenga, and they're like, I just built that!
Like a sand castle, and you're being hit by the tide, and just a stroppy corn berserker going,
you ruined my Skull Throne!
Does it sound like a xylophone when it collapses too?
Probably.
So would we like to hear some results for the Intermediate section?
Flesh is weak.
See how weak our flesh is.
Flesh is weak. Put it in the chat. Flesh is weak.
So the first question was, I wanted the name of the big scary Necron worm creature
that first attacks Ferris Manus on his homeworld of Medusa when he lands.
He basically escapes the pod.
The first thing I think he sees is this thing burrowing around it.
He's like, oh, that thing's annoying. I want to kill that.
And then over time he keeps having skirmishes with it, and then eventually he plunges it into the lakes of lava of Medusa.
It melts and it coats his arms with his iconic army metal hands.
So Eli put, tomb centipede plus headless joke. Very good.
I'm not thinking of the awful human centipede film there, are you?
You're going there. We're going there.
I could go for a snack.
You didn't think you'd talk about that in your Ferris Manus quiz, did you?
It was the Fogum quiz.
You think it'd be worse to be the guy in the middle or at the end?
Oh my gosh.
End, 100%. Might as well give up at that point.
So, that's really cruel.
Colin just put the silver dragon. I've got to be honest, I was hoping for more. I've got to be honest. Just a little bit.
See, the moment you say the name, I'm going to go, that was it. The problem is, like I said, it was on the tip of my tongue, but it couldn't get out.
Well, Hal got it correct. It was Asirinov.
Yes, but you said it much fancier than I had thought I had to pronounce it.
I had to put the inflection. Whenever I talk about iron hands, I'm always like, when I say the R's, like Sorgol and Mervoni.
He always boasts about it in every book. He's like, did you know I climbed the mountains? I killed the Asirinov.
Someone says at one point in the book, they're asking about this story about how he got his eye.
Every time someone goes like, so how'd you get those iron hands?
I think it's a Remembrancer who says, no, Remembrancer. Andy, your name is messed with me. Is that the one in canon?
Yeah. A historian.
That messed me. Sorry. A Remembrancer said he wasn't sure if he believed the story about him drowning Asirinov because the lines of where the metal ended on his arm looked too clean,
as in someone had dipped them rather than, I guess, someone had got them in a battle, essentially.
I think it's a theory about, Ferris might have done the augmentation to himself to make himself stronger.
He also feels slightly guilty about it because he's like, he's not my own strength.
It reminds me of in a strange way, you know that myth about the mother who gives birth to a child and she dips him into a lake and it makes him impervious to damage apart from his ankles.
Achilles.
It reminds me a little bit of a small version of Achilles. I just got elbow deep and then that was as far as I got.
Did put his head in, did he? Should have done that first.
Just the neck.
I like thinking that myth, if instead of just holding by the ankle, she just kind of moved him around a bit, held him by the ankle and then held him by the ankle.
I'm sure there's a comedian who's just like, well, just grab his head and then dip him in again.
Not even that, just like hold him by one ankle, then grab the other ankle and let the other one go and he'd be totally immortal.
But you couldn't be bothered to do that.
It's not a massive like fact that someone went, oh yeah, they really messed up by your ankle holding technique.
Well, I want it to be. I would have done better.
I think it would have been better if you put your fist in his mouth and grabbed him by the teeth and just dunked him.
Listen, if I was dunking my baby in the river sticks, I would have done a much better job of it.
Oh man, it's like, you know, in England, you know, we practice it all the time.
We're dunking our biscuits in tea, so you should just learn from us.
Yeah, you've got to put it on a spoon.
Just chuck him in the river. Just do the Spartan method and chuck him in the river and if he comes out, you've got a warrior.
Yeah, that works.
And on that note, so question number five, it's a bit of a tricky one because it's kind of, it's very technical as a question.
But it was in, you know, with the Order of the Primarchs, when was Ferus found?
I'm starting with Eli again.
Eli put two in brackets, same-ish time as Rus, and while Rus was the second to be found and he was close to second, he was not second, I'm afraid, Eli.
Colin put five, which is also very close, closer than Eli, but Hal was correct as he was the first Primarch to be found.
I almost put third.
It was Horus, Lemmon Rus, the unknown Primarch, and then Ferus.
That's the part I almost missed up with. I thought he...
I'll go ahead, sorry.
I was going to say, Ferus, as one of the first Primarchs, he was very much, he mentored a lot of the Primarchs because he was one of the first three that we know of.
He was very instrumental with, like, the Emperor trusted him a lot to be like, I found one of your brothers, and he's like, right, daycare, and he'd look after them and teach them stuff.
So he was a big mentor figure for a lot of them.
They all actually liked him quite a lot, which is bizarre, considering how stubborn and hot-headed he is.
But I think...
I think Lerute Giliman was like, he's my best friend. He's like, he's my favourite of my brothers. I love him. Oh, he's dead. I'm really sad.
I love that he said he was... I know he's part of the Dauntless Few.
He's the one that he loved the most of the Dauntless Few. He said, of all... when he heard the news of Ferus's death, he was really sad because he was like, he was my closest brother.
And Horus was also pissed off because he wanted Fulgrim to turn him to his side. He was like, if we have Ferus, we are winning this war.
I thought he wasn't his... I don't think he was Giliman's best friend. I thought... because in Unremembered Empire, is it that one?
Where Giliman says of all the three that died at Isfahan, he said, I think it's quote, I will miss Ferus the most.
I'm not sure if he was his best... because I think... no offence, Fulgrim was his best mate.
Or it's like an awkward triangle. Lerute's best mate was... like, he was his favourite.
It's funny because it was very one sided on the term Fulgrim, Lerute and Ferus.
Is that the meme of the guy holding his girlfriend's hand and he's like turning around and then he's like looking at the other person and she's looking at him more angry. It's like Ferus, Giliman and then Fulgrim, sorry.
To quote Lerute Giliman, he said on his death, and of the Dauntless view, Manus was the key, implacable, unshakable. If he was at your side, he would never break.
So he got on very well with Ferus despite him having a rocky relationship with other Primarchs, which is a bit sad.
And the last question of the intermediate section was, a demon presence was born when Ferus Manus died which would go on to torment the Iron Hands.
He was kind of the embodiment of his shame, his pride and the resentment he had at one being killed, which is really bad, but also at the hands of his most cherished brother.
Eli put the Balrog.
Yes! That's actually a great answer.
Fly you fools!
Who's Gandalf in this situation? Malkadors?
Just because their kneecaps don't work very well.
Just too old.
Malkadors kneecaps!
Oh, it's just because he's old, not because he's got like, the phrase that someone gets kneecapped or something.
Malkador has really bad gout.
Oh, probably.
This is a great line. That's scurvy, isn't it?
I'm just putting a little kid with a crowbar running after Malkador.
Kneecapping kids.
You know Gmod, the animation for swinging the crowbar where they pull it? That's what I'm figuring.
Some kid's got it raised over his head, he's going to town on Malkador's kneecaps.
Oh dear. Colin put Chop.
Nice!
That goes in with the fucking kneecap!
The inspiration for that name wasn't even initially the head thing.
It was Franklin's dog from GTA.
Chop!
Hey yo Chop!
You think Ferris ever accidentally ate a whole bunch of edibles?
Like Chop did.
Folkrum's like, we need to get this man a burrito stat.
Big burritos, big lad.
Ferris, you're scaring me.
Do you imagine a Primark with the munchies? That'd be like, right, we've got a lorry full of food.
Devour his entire eyes with the food.
Just inhales it.
Oh lord, Herbie.
With Howe's answer, I was going to be surprised if he didn't get this one, because it's very similar to his own name.
It was the Sapphire King.
Yeah! That was the big bad in the modern iron hands books.
Does this come up again? I can go into the spoilers if not.
The iron hands and the 40k timeline, they have this weird problem where, I say weird problem, they have a slight civil war.
I think it's called the Christonian heresy.
Might be a slight variation of that name. Maybe not accurate.
So they have a discussion about whether they become more machine or stick to being more half machine, half human.
And the Sapphire King has actually manipulated them and is the main cause about the corruption of them into weird, all their humanity is like poes and they literally become like automata.
And it's the Sapphire King who's part of a zinch? Is a zinch demon, I think he is?
He's a zinch faction.
And so they think that they become more machine so they don't get corrupted and they don't turn to chaos.
Because obviously the human part of them, the flesh is weak, that's the human part.
But then it turns out that their corruption came when they become these weird automata of logic and change.
And you can see where Zinch has sort of slipped himself in a bit there.
So he manipulates them and they end up having to fight a sort of civil war in the Iron Hands and the Sapphire King is behind that sort of heresy.
And then a good old cardanstronos is the name of the current chapter master of the Iron Hands and he famously fought against it.
And he rebels against the idea of becoming more machine and he thinks they need to be slightly human to master their human emotions.
And he does this speech in front of the Iron Favs and he's like, bruh, dude, if we sacrifice ourselves to be more human, we won't ever be ourselves again.
And they're like, that's beautiful.
So Captain, you're now chapter master.
I like to think he's like, if you keep locking this away, you are going to turn into a world eater.
It's going to come back one day and it's going to overload.
It's just pent up.
Moving on.
So I will say the scores because it's an interesting development.
So I didn't say it in the first round, but the first round it was Hal had three points.
Eli and Colin had one point.
I'm afraid Eli and Colin have remained at one point.
No, Hal has six points.
Oh, the flesh is truly weak, my brothers.
Man, this is shit.
Oh, man.
I enjoy this because it's not going to happen again.
You never know.
Such confidence in himself.
Only because this is the most perfect timing for me in terms of quiz and research time.
It's never going to happen again.
So I'm going to bathe in the sunlight whilst we're shining, shall we say.
Okay, calm down.
Right. It's time for the expert section.
Are we ready?
I suppose.
Well, buckle up, fellas.
We're going on to question number seven.
So the Iron Hands under the command of Ferris Manus would encounter a fleet based society of both humans and Xenos during the Great Crusade.
They offered them the Imperial truth.
The society rejected the offer of compliance and was purged by the Gorgon.
What was the name of the nomadic civilization they encountered?
Oh, this is from one of their first greats.
This is from the Fulgrim. Horace Heresy Fulgrim.
That's a hint.
That's giving me an answer.
Oh, I think I've got it.
Could this be when the tables turn?
It sounds like a deodorant.
Well, I've had all your answers and they're all quite similar.
So that's quite interesting.
Now, let's get on to question number seven then.
So Gorgon would modify a Cataphracti pattern terminator armor system for his own use.
What was the name of Ferris Manus's panoply of war?
So what was the name of his armor?
I think he actually stuck on this one.
I'll give you a hint. It has some of his homeworlds influence in the naming structure.
What it's called.
Mummy snake hair or something.
Oh, that would be funny.
Oh, I've got Colin's answer in the shade.
A shade.
Fellas, while you're thinking, I gotta...
You've called me out on that, haven't you?
I gotta ask, do you believe the flesh is weak?
Would you, if given the chance, just go all in on the robot?
Nah, the flesh is weak, so you gotta make the flesh strong.
I absolutely would.
I feel like that could be taken a very different interpretation of would you go with the path of the robot?
Because I'm thinking Japanese toy.
I mean, I'd also go with that, of course.
Oh, come on.
Do you mean like a prosthetic?
If I had the chance, there's two ideals I want.
I want either Rebecca from the cyberpunk cartoon, where I'm still clearly human,
but I've got crazy colored eyes and prosthetic, different, just crazy with everything,
but it's still very human, just kind of wacky.
I think I'd take it.
I would say, alternatively, I want full tech priest, where you cannot tell what you are looking at.
Does the toaster have a nice wife kind of tech priest?
Shout out to that classic line.
I was thinking more actually, I think I'd go for internals, so I'd replace things like, you know, the ticker,
the lungs in the heart and stuff like that, because the outside stuff doesn't mean anything,
but then you could be functionally immortal on the inside, I guess.
You heard it here first. Cut off Hell's arms. It doesn't mean anything.
That's the opposite. I go for organs. I would replace the organs.
Replace everything.
I think it's in the Eisenhorn book, isn't it?
The characters who serve with Eisenhorn, they've been serving with other inquisitors for hundreds of years,
and some of their organs are replaced with plastic components, so they can live quite a lot longer.
I think that's the way to go, to be honest.
I don't know. I don't think anything beats Warhammer lore with organs more than Lucas the Trickster putting a grenade
where one of his hearts should be, so whoever kills him is like, last prank of the world.
That is something I do. One space wolf thing I can't appreciate.
Oh, you got me? You're stuck with me forever.
What about me? I wouldn't put any machines in me. I'd prefer the Warhammer 40k BED route.
I'm sure they got some crazy cautions.
I'm going all in. I'm either chroming the fuck up, as it were, or I want to be confused when you look at me.
Nice. I will say, back in the day, I think you could run Lucas the Trickster up to a Warlord Titan,
and if you rolled off when he dies and he wins the roll-off, then you both die.
That would be the best way to make your points back with him.
Just run him into something more expensive and get him killed.
This whole question, though, just before we very quickly move on,
it just reminds me of the joke about someone saying, oh, women can get pleasure equipment,
but I as a man can't get this. I mean, T8 3000.
Exactly what you're talking about.
My two cents, I'd go for Adam Jensen. I'd be like, I asked for this and be like,
look at all this cool stuff I can do. I've got a whisk in my arm. Wee.
Have a bit of fun. Have bouncy kangaroo legs so I can jump really high and stuff.
It'd be great. Anyway, so question number eight, I believe we're on.
No, question number nine, in fact. Sorry.
So question number nine, the final question of the expert section, and there is going to be a bonus.
So question number nine.
Ferus would mentor one of his Primarch brothers shortly after his reunion with the Emperor,
giving him temporary command of his Astartes during the persecution of the Ranknarr.
Who was the Primarch? So who did Ferus look after?
Is this from the book, Mercy of, if you know what I mean?
I almost gave it away there.
Fine. I actually listened to this. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
I was going to say, it's probably like, just think of like similar-ish Primarchs, you'll probably get it.
And you know, it's not going to be like one of the really early found ones. It's going to be one of the later ones.
May have mentioned him earlier.
I was, oh, I'm sorry, train of thought there. Oh no, that's like really cool to talk about and I've forgotten about it.
About the book you're reading.
Oh no, I was going to say, yeah, because this short story is, I heard this on War for Lord Rose channel, I think quite a while ago.
And this is actually one of the videos that made me like fall in love again, kind of with Warhammer stuff.
And I didn't like to level where like, oh, I dived into the lore again properly.
So this is actually quite a cool story because it made me almost helped inspire me to start my YouTube channel in a way.
Because I thought, oh, this is, I didn't know Warhammer lore could slap this violently.
I was like, oh.
I'll do the results now and then if you want to explain it further when I've said the answers, you can give us a little rundown if you like.
Oh, that was pretty much. Oh, okay. I'll save it. I'll save it.
Okay. Well, I've just had everyone's answer, so we'll go through them now.
So to start with question number seven was, what was the name of the nomadic civilization that
Ferris and his iron hands persecuted during the Great Crusade that was one of their first great achievements?
Eli put the Dimecheron and he said, that's a tyrannid, but still sounds right and not far off, but I'm afraid it's incorrect.
And Colin put the Diaspora and Hal put the Diaspora and Diaspora is correct.
So I'm going to give you both a point because I think you're close enough, Colin.
You get a point for that. So well done you.
But yeah, the Diaspora were the civilization. Question number eight.
This is a bit of a cheeky one, but I think you should know by now when I do quizzes, I'm like, I like Panopolis of War.
So I tend to mention them because I think they're quite cool.
So what was the name of his armor? Eli put big metal box.
Metal boxes.
Big metal box.
I don't know why Hal put this, but he just put Jerkin the Ween in brackets. Oh, with rain. Oh.
Oh my God.
Stanley's inner Rebuti Gilman.
I feel like you're dumping five points for that to be honest.
Jerkin the Ween.
It's like dreading one video with it's part with Gilman at the end.
We're gonna yell it, but I did want, it has another word in the middle. I'm gonna demonetize us.
I'm yunarying.
I'm seeing that yellow dot.
Blooming over the horizon. So I'm gonna move on swiftly.
But you dare put that in the chat either. Be clean. Don't.
The comment sections can't demonetize the video. Go nuts.
Oh yeah, please put the real comment in, put the real quote there. Please brothers.
Anyway, anyway. And Colin put, I don't know, should have modified the head armor bozo, which is mean.
Yunarie mean.
Decapitation.
Despacito.
Though the correct answer was the Medusen Carapace. So that's his.
That makes sense.
So yeah, Medusa, Meduson, it's kind of, you know, kind of similar to a lot of their naming conventions.
And lastly, question number nine. Who was the Primarch that Ferus Manus on the orders of the emperor and with the emperor by his side kind of trained up and looked after him?
A little, little side thing. This Primarch in particular, when he was fighting, Ferus remarked, Oh, Leman Ross is a good fighter.
This guy is a destroyer. And the answers that I was given was, Eli put the four armed emperor is real.
No, he is not.
One armed emperor is real.
One piece is real.
Colin put Alfarius or Megan or whichever asshole was the one last found because these pricks can't have anything certain.
It's all got to be about the fucking mystery with these alpha assholes.
Are you OK, Colin? Do you need a breather?
I think I need to hit Alfarius in the face with a brick.
Thankfully Rogal Dorn got to him and that made me very happy in the lore.
Gilman is Alfarius, it's fine.
Don't you dare!
Could you say as well, while someone has just mentioned the one piece is real, thank you if you like that, has anyone recently seen the one piece where Snake Man comes back in to the...
I don't watch it.
No, OK, that's a really cool one.
I watched one piece as a kid and then when I got actually into anime, because again, the worst person right here, hello.
I was in one piece of the show.
Oh, OK.
I checked up, oh, I wonder how many episodes are out for that show.
I remember watching it when I was a kid.
Oh, a thousand. I'm not watching that.
I remember I watched Mr. I don't watch anime. I remember watching a good maybe 150 episodes on YouTube like 10 years ago when people were putting them on YouTube before they all got destroyed and taken off.
And then eventually they all got removed and I couldn't continue watching. I was like, oh, that was kind of fun. No more. No more one piece for me.
I watched it as a when it was on four kids, which by the way, the four kids opening for one piece banger of an opening.
Yeah. And then it was not on that. And then I looked into how it's it up to and then, oh, it's a thousand.
I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. I have better things to do.
I'm a casual, casual viewer. But I just want some of the clips of it if you ever see them on YouTube.
Oh, it's the meme is not even a meme. It's like, yeah, you just know, just it gets in three. Good. Three hundred episodes in.
No, I'm not doing that. Just remove the filler. That's still six hundred episodes.
Mm hmm. Literally. Wow.
Was the draw. So I think we got to that.
I was going to say, how I got it right. It was Vulcan. Vulcan was the guy that Ferris was looking after.
Would you like to elucidate us further with the.
Yeah, the mercy of the dragon.
The mercy of the dragon. You're saying the mercy of like, don't say the last word. You'll give it away.
Yeah. Dragon like, oh, see Vulcan, you know, Salamander's dragon.
Yeah.
And this is like from the perspective of the emperor and Ferris and they're overlooking the battlefield.
And Ferris is very funny because the emperor is like, what's your assessment? He's just like talking about Vulcan's armor.
He's like, he's too too flashy. And he's like, I'm not talking about his armor.
It's like, oh, yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Ferris is obviously not one to like, you know, fine. He's good.
You know what I mean? And the armor that he forged as well, Vulcan, the emperor asked him, did you help him?
You know, what did you show him? The ropes and stuff like that. And then Ferris goes, no, he just made it by himself.
He didn't need any help. And then he just kind of just ran into the middle of the battlefield.
And then Ferris is realizing that, oh, he's kind of being tested here. He needs to prove himself.
Because obviously he's brought a monster of a Primarch to the battlefield that's kind of using a hammer and it's similar to him.
And he's like, oh, I've got to really improve myself here, you know, up up, you know, my game, got to make it better because I've got this huge thing to compete with.
So it's actually Vulcan get like hit by like an orbital bomb, like a bombardment as well.
And he's like, no, he's dead. And then he's just shielding a small child.
And you're like, Vulcan, you can't help it. You're just a really nice guy. He's like, I'm fine. The child is fine.
I think that path was Ferris to no end because like, why would you do that? But I'll see, you know, Vulcan, the kindest man. Vulcan is the top G.
You know, Vulcan lives. Stomp, stomp.
Stomp, stomp.
So we only have the bonus to go, but I'll quickly read out the scores in third place.
Currently with one point, we have Eli.
In second place, with two points, we have Colin.
Go! And with eight points, we have in first place, the Amber King himself, Hal.
The flesh is weak. The flesh is weak.
This ends the debate. It is proven.
I'm not sure what to do with the scoring of this last question because I don't think it's going to make a difference, if I'm honest.
The plays are fun. That's the whole reason we do it.
Okay. We'll just say it's worth a regular point, but I think it's a fun one.
Okay. So here is the bonus question.
So Ferris Manus would construct a weapon for one of his Primarch brothers as a sign of support.
Who was the Primarch and what was the weapon's name?
Now this was given to a Primarch as a sense of solid, as a gift of solidarity with his brother.
So it's not Fireblade. It's not the whole thing with him in Fulgrim. It's another Primarch.
And it's a very iconic weapon of all the Primarchs.
The Primarch who wields this, you see him wielding it all the time.
I think I know which one this is, but I don't remember the name.
Yeah, same here.
It's not...
Obviously it's not Forgebreaker. It's not Fulgrim's... It's not the Fulgrim Hammer.
No.
Oh, I guess this really is...
This is a slight spoiler, but I don't think it's a melee weapon, is it?
I don't think it's a melee weapon.
Technically it is, but it's more a badge of office than a weapon.
Oh, then it's not the one I was thinking about.
But it is. I think it is the one you're thinking about.
At least the Primarch who wields it doesn't see it so much as a weapon, but it is actually a weapon.
And it has an interesting heritage for the Legiones and Adeptus Astartes as well.
Oh, I think I'm thinking of a different weapon, because I know of one that he did for...
He's done more than one weapon for a certain Primarch.
I've got an answer from the other two, and they're on the money.
We need the name of the Primarch and the weapon.
Yeah.
They force this for another Primarch.
Is this like a two-point question?
Like, one for the Primarch, one for the...
To be honest, I'll say, yeah, one each.
Okay.
I'm going to three points, baby!
Woo!
So, to play for how?
I've read this book.
I don't know if I've read this book. It's confusing, because I think there's more than one answer for this.
It's like tripping me up.
Yeah, that's what's tripping me up here, because I know of another one that's mentioned in the Fulgrim book.
Let's just say it's the weapon that he gives to a Primarch that he pretty much exclusively uses all the time,
and was instrumental for another weapon that would be widespread within the Astartes forces.
He modeled off this weapon.
I'm committing to it.
Okay, so.
Well, here's the thing.
Eli put the Primarch was Lorgar, and the weapon was called...
Oh my lord!
Now, Worldbreaker is actually Horus's big hammer.
Or mace, isn't it?
So, you get a point for Lorgar.
What was the name of the weapon?
Illuminate.
Sorry.
So, he put Lorgar as well, so you get a point, and he called it Starbreaker.
Interesting.
Howe put Vulcan Salamander Vulcite Gun, which is incorrect, so no points for Howe.
The weapon was called Illuminaram, and it was their basis for the Crozius of the Chaplaincy.
Basically, he just made it, and then Lorgar came up to him, and he was like,
wait, I made you this, and he's like, oh, what's this for?
And he's like, you're like a Primarch, you need a weapon fitting of a Primarch, and you have an example to set.
And as a result, because he was the most devout, all the Chaplains would create Croziuses in imitation of Illuminaram.
So I thought it was a nice little nod to Ferris and his subtle influence over the setting.
That's way better than what I was thinking.
In the book, Fulcrum, he made Vulcan a Vulcite flame gun with a Salamander's head on it.
And Vulcan said to him, oh, it's very nice, but there's a slight...
Ferris implies there's a superstition amongst Nocturnians that they don't use a weapon not forged by their own hands.
And so he doesn't really use it, but he does give it back to Vulcan before the Isvard massacre.
And then it's kind of at a point where Ferris is also extremely pissed off.
So Vulcan's probably like, it's probably not the time to say I don't really want to use it.
But that's why I thought the weapon was that one.
You're going to assault my craftsmanship as well. Dick move, Vulcan.
Do you know how good I am at making weapons?
Lorgar didn't complain, and everyone hates him.
How do I face Illuminarum? Oh, man.
Yeah, I thought I was going to get ahead of Colin, but nope.
I think I over thought this.
Spiky Maces.
Hell yeah, well that was a good spiky mace.
And that was the Ferris Manus quiz, are we all happy?
Very.
I am. I'm glad I got to reference CHOP, I didn't think I'd get to do that in the quiz.
Well, just a reminder, the scores were 2 points for Eli, 3 points for Colin, and with a staggering 8 points, Hal won.
He gets a start.
Flesh is truly weak.
Hal, I have to say, I think I feel about the Iron Warriors, the way you do about the Iron Hands,
that I do not care for the Primark, but I quite like the Legion.
Oh yeah, the Iron Hands have become my favorite, as you probably can tell recently.
Yeah, and yeah, Ferris is, I will say, I said it before to you guys,
but the most interesting part about the Iron Hands is just that their Primark is dead, so they are completely alone.
They have a complex within them where they just hate themselves, and they're constantly fighting an inner struggle.
You know people who like Blood Angels a lot, it's because obviously they're fighting the Red Averse and the Black Rage.
It's a sort of similar ideal and struggle I see there, so I find them, they have much more depth than I would say Alpha Legion.
If that helps, Colin.
Who's taking the death of their Primark better, the Blood Angels, the Iron Hands? Who's dealing with it better?
Ooh, that's a good question.
What do you think, Eli?
I don't know, neither of them.
I mean, the Blood Angels are dealing well when they don't have the Black Rage.
When they're not massacring civilians with the Black Rage.
It's a very dichotic thing. When they're not angry, they're handling it rather well.
When they are angry, they're handling it horribly.
You can't get worse than thinking you are your dad.
They also relive their Primark's death.
That's what I mean.
When they're not doing that, they're handling it well.
But when they're thinking that the entire enemy army is all named Horus, then it's not great.
The Iron Hands think that they are the weakest, most disgusting, vile humans ever because their Primark is not too emotional.
And that is part of them.
The Nightinologists know they hated the S-Com.
They're like, we get it, but we're not going to let it consume us too much.
Whereas the Iron Hands are very much...
They literally cut off parts of their body because of their own complex.
Whereas the Nightinologists cut other people's body parts off.
I'm going to peel him like a banana. This makes me feel better.
Where's his face?
I don't know where it's from, but it's like the guy has the peeled off face and he puts his tongue in the middle.
I can't remember, but it's some movie, isn't it?
That would be a great reference.
So the Iron Hands...
Blood Angels?
Iron Hands?
They're just not taking it well.
Not great.
They hate the Ultramarines.
You guys suck.
It is a shame that all of the other Loyalist chapters are displaying extreme fatherless behavior.
Even if the White's Girls are just having a good time. We're going to just go ride, get a beer, go for a ride.
They're doing pretty alright. They're living up to what Jagged I wanted.
Got a new hairstyle. It's pretty cool.
I'm just thinking, Warhammer 40k tagline, Daddy Issues.
It really is.
Daddy Issues. Hashtag Daddy Issues.
They're just Issarties.
Oh man. Poor Iron Hands.
Thank you so much, Andy, for hosting that.
No problem.
I hope everyone kept their head on.
Too soon.
It's 10,000 years.
You want to have a good head on your shoulders.
It's too soon.
It's also been 20 years since the lore has been written.
True.
For our next foray, our next quiz, that will be hosted by your boy, me.
We're turning our look a little bit further away from all the superhumans and necromancers we've talked about so far.
We're going to do something a bit more of the human level.
We're going to talk about our beloved commissar, Sebastian Jaric.
That will be a fun one.
I hope you guys are prepared for that.
Old Baalai is going to hopefully have his death illuminated to us soon.
It's a very sad moment, but we're going to talk about our beloved commissar.
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Ferris got his head cut off.
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That joke is going to die and then come back to life.
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I would, well, 500 miles.
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