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Tonight on Law Crimes…

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Colin gets interred in a dreadnought…

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Eli bench presses a land raider…

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And Hal crashes a drop pod into the Administorum…

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Hello Law Criminals and welcome to Law Crimes.

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I am Hal and joining me today is Eli, Colin and Andy.

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And today we'll be talking about the Speed Boys, the Ordu Jagatai, the White Scars.

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And I will pass it over to Colin to lead us in our beginner section.

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Take it away Colin.

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I would be happy to.

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Now the White Scars are the fifth legion of the original Space Marines.

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Of course, part of the first founding.

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They go all the way back to the beginning of the Imperium.

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They are one of the premier scouting and hit and run forces in the galaxy.

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Definitely the Imperium's best by quite the wide margin, if I say so myself.

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And rivaled only by the likes of Craftworld's Saim Han and the Speed Freak Orcs in terms of

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going fast.

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They are based heavily on Mongolian imagery, such as their chapter master being called

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The Great Khan, and Jagatai, their Primarch, having Khan in his name.

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And while many outsiders might view them as basically just Mongolian-favored space wolves,

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so stupid uncultured brutish dumb barbarians do not like space wolves, any amount of investigation

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shows them to be intellectuals that are skilled in the arts, poetry, calligraphy, just to

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name a few.

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They've got more going for them than just fast.

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They're quite cultured.

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I think that's their big appeal.

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If you read a lot of their books, their big appeal is like, oh, we knew all along that

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we weren't cultured, but they misinterpreted us.

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They're definitely the most underestimated of all the legions, and everyone pays for

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it when they underestimate them.

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On back in the early days of the Imperium, on Terra, when the Imperium was just part

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of Terra and not much else, they served the Emperor as a scouting force during the Unification

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Wars, and this caused them to become very good at hit and run tactics.

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Early on, granted, this was because they had little choice but to become adept at these

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tactics.

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As a lot of the time deployed as scouting forces, they were behind enemy lines, outnumbered

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and outgunned.

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While, yes, they're still space marines and probably get a crush whatever's in their

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path, when it's a thousand to one, you've still got to get creative, space marine or

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not, and the White Scars learned how to do so.

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Once Jagatai was found, this was much the same, though this time, granted, this was

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because they had a learned expertise in such actions, and it favored how their Primarch

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liked to fight as well.

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They also were rather reclusive, Jagatai was not super close with many of his brothers,

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similar to how the White Scars weren't understood by a lot of other allegiance.

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He became known as the Kagan, the Khan of Khans, and captains of the White Scars were

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just regular Khans.

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You've got Khan, and then just for you Hal, there's Daddy, Daddy Kani.

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Oh God, I appreciate that as much as I hate that too, to be honest.

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Kagan, obviously.

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There's a lot of Khans, I feel like it's almost confusing at some points, because I

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always think there's a lot of Khans.

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If everyone here has watched any football, the right football, I'm just going to say

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it now, the right kind of football, it's like watching the Icelandic football team,

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where they all have the same last name.

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I think I noticed it in the Euro, they're all Magnussen, and it broke me a little bit.

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They've all got like Sun at the end, like Magnussen, Heinersen.

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I know, it's really, there's a lot of Khans though, there's a lot of Khans, they're all

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pretty much, because I first heard about them, I thought Khan was reserved, obviously he

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has a very big thing.

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I think a lot of people assume that they're all called Khans, but they're not, it's only

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captains sort of rank white scars that get the honorific of Khan.

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But because they're pretty much the only named characters of all the time, I think

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everyone assumes that every white scar is called something Khan, but we'll go into that a bit

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All I know is that the Euro is less valuable than the dollar, so you call it soccer.

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Oh, I don't use the Euro in my speech, do I?

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No.

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I can't speak about the Canadian dollars.

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Oh god.

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Oh, anyway, to get back to the white scars.

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Sorry, not insult an entire continent.

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Rightful.

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Back to the white scars.

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USA.

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Anyway, Jagatai mixed the Terran and Chagoran soldiers together in battle to foster unity,

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as early on the Terrans and those recruited from Chagoras, Jagatai's homeworld, didn't

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get on super well, but he forced them to fight together and you learn under fire pretty quick

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to suck up your grievances and make friends.

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And always, pardon me, going forward to the Horus Heresy after the Great Crusade, they

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had always been that outside force, kind of like I was saying earlier.

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So initially, they didn't really know what was going on with the Horus Heresy.

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They were always deployed at the edge of the Imperium's advances as scouting forces

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for his contact and early strike forces during the Great Crusade.

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So when Horus threw his little temper tantrum, they had no idea what was going on, essentially.

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All they knew was that their former brother-in-arms were going at each other like madmen.

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As they investigated Prospero after it was burned, a sizable portion threw their laden

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with Horus as they believed it was a right for rebellion.

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Because as far as a lot of them were concerned, the Space Wolves just went to town on the

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Thousand Suns and that was the side Horus was on.

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So as far as they were concerned, Horus is in the right.

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When Jagatai got some more info and learned that actually there was some chaos treachery

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going on, the remaining traitors, marines, and the White Scars either just submitted

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to be executed or joined suicide squads to find honor in death.

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Anytime there's something like that, I find it really cool.

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Like the Dwarf Slayers, the Magyar Squads.

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It's very, very cool.

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Very Warhammer.

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S.S. Ironically as well, I don't know if this is a bit jumping the gun, but I think,

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as we said earlier, the Terrans and the Jogorians were kind of reunited.

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Ironically, it wasn't quite a big portion of the ones that sided with Horus.

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They were the Terran-born White Scars.

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So that definitely came to a bit of a heated moment, as to say.

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There's always that weird dynamic with legions with Terran-borns and like, are they going

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to be goodies?

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Are they going to be a bit cheeky?

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There's always a weird dynamic in certain legions, like the Raven Guard in particular.

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S.S. After they finally figure out which side to be on, they performed very admirably,

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raiding Horus's legions and the traitor legions in general for several years.

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But eventually they came to realization that if they keep doing that,

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they were going to be caught, cornered and destroyed.

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So while there was still an opening, they booked it to Terra, where they performed

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admirably during the siege, protecting Terra's civilian population and even helping their

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Primarch banish Mortarian himself back to the warp after he became a demon Primarch.

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They got rid of the smelly one.

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They totally did.

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It's in the, I think, one of the better Siege of Terra books.

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Oh my God, Warhawk.

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I almost forgot the name.

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That would have been a massive lore crime.

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It's right on the tin.

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That book is long.

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I say long, Brethren, but it's a beefy one.

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It's one of the best Jagatai moments with him just shouting down Mortarian with sick burns.

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That's our Khan.

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We love him.

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We'll tackle some of that later, I think, because I can't wait to go into that part.

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Now, this did cost Jagatai his life, although he was given to Malkator to be healed, resurrected,

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which, unless old lore is very shortly going to be retconned, this is, to my knowledge,

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Jagatai's state of things.

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After the siege, he is back and kicking.

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You can't keep the Warhawk down.

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As for that, after the Siege of Terra, Jagatai, at some point, was lost chasing Dark Elder

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Raiders back into the Webway.

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I gotta say, Jagatai's very cool.

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Andy, I know you love the White Scars.

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Would not have chosen this as a viable course of action, pursuing the Drukhari back into

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Kamara.

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I don't know.

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Khan will manage.

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He'll be fine.

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I'm sure he's alive in the tender, loving hands of the Drukhari.

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He's taking them out.

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We'll undoubtedly get to them later, but just so you know, if they don't want you in Kamara,

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you're not going to have a good time.

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Hey, if Eli's favorite, Mr. Fabius the Chad Bile, can survive in Kamara, I'm pretty sure.

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He was invited.

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I don't think Khan was invited.

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Was he invited, Eli?

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Well, the Harlequins gave him a map, and then he went there, and the

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Homunculi Covens actually took him in as a student, because he's like, oh, this guy's

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pretty cute, and he's really smart.

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This guy's pretty cute.

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He's the smartest guy in the galaxy.

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Fabius Bile-oo-woo.

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They treat him like a kid, because to them, they're way older than him, right?

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A lot of the Homunculus have been around since the fall, pretty much.

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It's wholesome in my mind, but in reality, it's really not wholesome.

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He screws them over really hard.

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I'm sure the experiments that were taken in are having a good time with them.

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We don't find it cute.

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Let us free, please.

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We should get back on track before I talk about Fabius Bile-oo-woo.

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Wait, last thing there.

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Didn't they make the Tower of Flesh or something?

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Oh, yeah, they did.

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I mean, they did.

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They did.

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Gosh, that was so cool.

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That's so, yeah.

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Cool?

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I think they can move it as well.

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I'm pretty sure.

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Does it have hands underneath?

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I don't remember.

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That's not good.

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I had hands, legs, whatever you got to get around with.

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There was something really cool about it, but I can't remember.

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I can't remember.

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Frick.

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Well, Eli's from memory.

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It was growing.

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I think it was growing.

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That was the thing they did with the end.

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Oh, good lord.

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It wasn't created from scratch.

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It was literally growing, I'm pretty sure.

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That might be correct.

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Moving on.

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Please.

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I think my celestial deviants out of here.

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Go, Dildar.

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Anyway, after this, though, the White Scars never failed in their duty.

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And even with their Primarch gone and their legions split into chapters with what they

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had after the siege, the White Scars continued their role as the Imperium's outriders, even

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at their reduced strength, and they always performed admirably.

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And this is how they have done for 10,000 years and how they will always do.

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While they are still seen as reclusive and mysterious by much of the Imperium,

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they've never once failed in their duty.

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They've battled the Red Corsairs, Traderous Astartes, the Tau alongside a rogue Trader

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dynasty.

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There's a 40k book I actually have read, the Rogue Trader Omnibus.

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In the points now.

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And many more enemies besides.

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And while they, as I said, remain outsiders, they're not known to many, even among their

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brother Astartes by this point.

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Not much is known about them, that is.

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They're still one of the Emperor's finest and will continue to serve admirably until

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the end of the Imperium.

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Big round of applause.

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A big bow.

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I love the White Scars, after reading their heresy books.

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Oh, they're so good.

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Chris Wray is probably the best author they have now at GW.

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Took them a while, they're like, we need to talk about the White Scars, they're not

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getting any.

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And it's like, oh, here we go.

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Oh, amazing.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Because for the first 20 books, they don't really get anything.

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And then it's like, ah, now we're getting something to talk about after a long time.

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Feels the same with the Blood Angels.

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I might be wrong with that, but I'm like 30 books in and they haven't talked about the

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Blood Angels still, so.

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Yeah, I'm currently on Ruinstorm, so they're getting a bit of love right now with that.

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But still.

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To be fair, Sanguinius' time in the sun comes at the end.

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Sorry, Fulgrim's prettier than him anyways.

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Oh, we're always fighting words here.

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A comment in the below the video, who's prettier Sanguinius or Fulgrim?

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We'll do a poll.

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Fulgrim's all natural, baby.

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He's all natural beauty.

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Sanguinius needs some wings.

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The answer is Leelith Hesperax.

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Boo, boo.

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Oh dear.

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Get him out of here.

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No, it's Merapi.

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Oh, that's even worse.

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Are there any questions for the beginner section before Andy takes it away?

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I don't have a question.

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I have more of a general statement of like, because obviously you were, obviously I won't

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say you're a filthy 40k only and not a heresy boy, but you're like kind of even to you,

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do the white scars feel pre-like, you're not like even, obviously they're intended to be

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quite mysterious and they were for the longest time, which is more neglected than mysterious.

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Mysterious is a great way to justify neglected.

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Yes, but like even to you, like, because obviously you learn about them now, I think

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every time someone learns about them, they quickly become like someone, at least like

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top five, if you know what I mean, like, would you say for yourself, like having learned

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more about them through this, you have like, oh, they've risen like quite a bit?

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Uh, they've definitely gone up there. I don't know if I'd say top five, but that's less

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because I don't think they're cool and more because I've just honestly never thought about

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like top five space Marine chapters.

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This guy can name about three of them.

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No, I've got a few. I like the reclaimers from granted. That's because they were in

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Caiaphas Kane and anything really in my love. But no, I've got a few, I know, but uh,

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they're definitely up there now. Again, like I said, I'd have to think about that if I

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want to put together a list, but yeah, I'm a, I do enjoy reading me about the white scars.

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Do or don't why scars is coming to your channel 100% of this.

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I wouldn't say right after this.

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Is it the first space Marine video?

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Uh, for space Marines, it's going to be overall space Marines and then we'll get into specifics.

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Oh, that makes sense.

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You haven't learned, you haven't done space Marines yet?

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No, I was, uh, I thought I was going to do a video on that.

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Space Marines? Yeah. No, I was, uh, I thought about, I think that's going to be,

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all right, we're getting too much into my channel.

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What?

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That'll be just real quick. That'll be the, uh, that'll be my final do or don't for the

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mainline armies. I felt like that'd be a fitting capstone to the series until I get into sub

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armies because I need to milk it. Damn right.

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Uh, and if there's nothing else, Andy, unless Eli, have you anything, questions, any comments?

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I don't think so. I'm sure Andy will cover play.

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All right, Andy, why don't you take away the expert section of the white scars?

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Thank you very much for handing it over. You've done a great job with the intro.

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I think again, like Hal just mentioned, anyone who hear it's about more,

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the more you hear about the white scars, I think the cooler they get.

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the legions were founded, a lot of them had specializations and different names.

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they were originally founded were called the star hunters. Um, they were comprised primarily from

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the Fulian basin of terror. And at, at their inception, there was only really a few hundred

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warriors. Uh, they were known as the eyes and ears of the unification board because they would,

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they were, they were used as pathfinders and scouts. Uh, you know, and it makes sense. Uh,

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when you think of white scars, you think they get in, they get out. They're not quite like

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the raven guard who are more, uh, espionage and covert operations, but they do have that element

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of hit, hit fast, get in, get out, guerrilla warfare sort of thing going on. Um, they often

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fought ahead of the prototype legions. So what would happen is if you had, say the dark angels,

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who's the first legion, the white scars would go into an engagement, cripple as much of the main

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enemies, uh, structures, uh, high value targets, et cetera, and then quickly escape before the dark

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angels would come in and just sledgehammer crush anything that was left. So they were very good at

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just picking off targets, hitting, retreating, and being so fast, you, you wouldn't have a chance to

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attack back. Um, they were also sent into the commutatively the single most deadly engagements

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and environments of old earth, like anything that was tough, you sent the scars in first,

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they do the damage they could, and then another legion would come in and wipe the floor of whatever

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was left standing. So I kind of like that as well, that like, even before they were known for the,

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the, the, the, the Chagourian, uh, customs and everything, they were still pretty bad ass even

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before that guitar got involved. I wonder if they imply, I don't know if everyone else feels like

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this. Do they imply that each legion, like it's always in warhammer, isn't it? Where like each

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legions kind of already like their Primarchs as like, is that meant to be like a genetic materials

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from the Primarchs don't they? They still have them. They just haven't matured yet, but they've

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got like, they don't have daddy yet. But I always wondered like what genetically is like genetically

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make you fast, but tactics fast. Like, like, oh yeah, I was born to use fast tactics, not I'm

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run faster because warhammer is a fantasy setting in space. That's, that's basically the answer for

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every question. When the emperor was getting the Primarchs from the war on that essence, he was

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like, Oh, this is cool. This is quite hard to like, Oh, he keeps running away. Oh, we're slipping

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out of my hands. Oh, yeah. Last Primarch and then make some gene seed out of that. And it's like,

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we've got speedies, speedy boys. Yeah. I don't like that sentence. Get some Primarchs, make some

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gene seed. I really hate that. I like to imagine he kept just dropping jacket eyes like pod when

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he was incubating. So he was like, well, I guess this is my hit and run guy. Cause I cannot hold

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with this slippery little bastard. Or he just looks away and he's moved and he's behind a table

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and like, Oh, come here. Where are you going? You are in a pod. How are you moving?

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And yeah, they also said that with the unification era, the, the white scars only followed orders

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from the emperor and commanders they respected. If you tried to command them and they didn't like

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you, they wouldn't listen to you. They wouldn't do what you said. So they already had a bit of

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a rebellious streak, but they weren't a big mistake people make with the white scars as they say,

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Oh, they're just like, you know, even in the universe to say they're undisciplined. They're

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just the savage was like, no, they were re they are really disciplined. They're really good at

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following orders, but they don't give, they don't, you know, it's that whole thing. Respect is earned.

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It's not given. And that's especially true with the white scars amongst the, the legions that were

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on terror, obviously as pathfinders, they were the white scars were amongst the first to leave the

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planet. They were cast into the absolute furthest flung areas of the galaxy. And because they were

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used as scouts, not much of their deeds during the great crusade or prior to Jagatai anyway,

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is recorded. Because again, they're all over the place. An interesting fact is the white scars were

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the, the legion that found Cephonia, Captain Cornelius Dewar of the pioneer company surveyed

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the planet. And he called it a nest of serpents coiling in the dark, that we would be we would

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be better to destroy, which apparently Horace was really happy with that quote. And he loved that

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like, ah, this white scar said we should have blown up my home planet lol. hindsight is 2020.

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Now, yeah, just a nice little tidbit and you know, I'll go into a bit later, but the the white scars

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and sons of Horace got on well, very famously. Could have saved a lot of trouble if they just

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hit that exterminatus button on the planet. Like the Among Us button, isn't it? He called everyone

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for a meeting. Just destroy that little disgusting serpent bowl of a planet. Because of this,

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their fleet was heavily fragmented prior to the legions reunification with Jagatai Khan.

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And even though they slowly eventually lost numbers, you know, they, they had casualties,

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they had diminishing amounts of units, they never once asked for any help. They're very proud,

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they never asked any of the legions for backup or reinforcements, they never pestered the emperor.

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They were like, we've been given a job, we're gonna go do it. That's all. And they would do

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this for 50 years before they would find Jagatai Khan on his homeworld of Chagoris. Now Chagoris

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was actually known, or is actually known amongst the Imperium as Mundus Planus. And it would be

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discovered by the emperor and Horace Lupecow. And we'll one day be doing a video on Jagatai Khan

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I'm sure, because he's too cool not to do a video on specifically. I won't go into too much, but

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when Jagatai conquered Chagoris, and he united all the tribes, he was already not an emperor like

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Dorne or Giliman, but he was a warlord, he was a conqueror. He had everything under control.

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And when he saw the emperor act up by the lunar walls, and he saw them in their, you know,

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white armor with the black trim, he said, right, okay, that's a foe I can't beat. Like, that thing

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there is terrifying. And also, I kind of want my warriors to be like that. So he kind of realized,

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oh, I'm no longer going to be the conqueror of anything I want, I'm no longer going to go out

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and conquer anything I desire. My father, the emperor, that's his role. But I'm going to be

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free from the constraints of bureaucracy and boring politics. And I can just serve in his name,

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go out there with my boys, kill lots of stuff, have some fun, and just be untethered. Because

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Jagatai is the most free spirited of all the Primarchs. He just wants to go out there

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and slay some Xenos, you know.

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Mason- Isn't it interesting that, of all, I think him and maybe Angron might be the only ones who

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didn't immediately pledge loyalty to the emperor. Like a lot of them are described to, I think the

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one with like Pertorabo, isn't it? I always remember that one. Like Pertorabo basically gets on his

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knees and starts wading like a baby. And I think a lot of them did that.

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Will- I think Fulgrim also was just like, oh, yeah, cool.

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Mason- I think Ferris had a scrap with him, didn't he?

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Will- Yeah, Ferris had a punch up, which is awesome.

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Mason- Yeah, Ferris had a Dragon Ball Z fight with the emperor.

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Will- His powers, over 9,000!

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Mason- And then Vulcan, we're going to go hunting and see who's better at hunting. Okay, dad.

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Will- It's interesting, isn't it, that Jagatai is one of the few ones who like don't, like a lot of

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them, even when they say that when humans meet Primarchs, they immediately want to like bend the

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knee, so almost. And it's interesting that Jagatai, I guess, didn't feel that, whereas a lot of the

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other Primarchs immediately felt that. So maybe that was something born into him.

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Mason- I think the old lore, or at least, I don't know if it's old lore necessarily, or if it's just

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the Imperium's records where he went to his knees and he groveled, it's like, no, that's just what

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they said. What he actually did is he looked at Horus, he looked at his soldiers and went,

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we're going to get slaughtered if we stand against them. Then again, that arm is pretty cool, I'm

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going to join you, and we're going to go out and do what we love doing anyway. So why not? And his

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whole premise was he wanted humanity to conquer the stars and rule the galaxy. And he was like,

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well, if the Emperor's going to do it, he's still doing what I want to do. So cool. Okay, I'm man

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enough to say I can't match the Emperor, he's my daddy, I'll do as he says, because you know,

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I believe in what he wants to do. And I think it'd be better to join him and get it done quicker.

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That's kind of his whole outlook with the legions.

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Adam- I think my favorite meeting the Emperor story is still Leemon Russ's old lore,

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where it was an eating contest and the Emperor lost and then a drinking contest.

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Mason- That's still canon. That's 100% still canon.

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Mason- Yeah, I think it still is.

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Adam- And then he just plucks his Leemon in the face.

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Mason- And then he just stuff your face and get drunk. You're a wretched person.

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Adam- He's like, what did you say?

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Mason- And then he plucks him in the jaw.

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Adam- The Emperor lost, this one like twice, he lost in the drinking and the eating contest.

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Mason- Yeah.

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Adam- Which is insane because he's the Emperor, he's not Emperor stomach, isn't he? He's Emperor

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stomach.

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Mason- So to go back to the Legion proper, rather than just talking about how cool Jagatai is. So

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all the Plains tribes of Chagoras were then given mandatory military service.

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And what's interesting, another, I say, we're going to talk about the wider thing without

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talking about Jagatai. Another cool thing about Jagatai, he was amongst the swiftest of all the

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Primarchs to be given his Legion and then to just go to war. Like, Gilliman and Dawn particularly

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protested, like they were like, he's literally, we've just found him. You can't give him a fleet.

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You can't give him all these warriors and just say, go ham. But the Emperor did. And they didn't

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like how Jagatai didn't assimilate all of the Imperial virtues that the other Primarchs were

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told to foster. It's not necessarily a religious thing, but the White Scars have their own cultural

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ideas. And so Jagatai kind of said, I like these things from the Imperium, this stuff's rubbish,

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so I'm going to keep the stuff from my Chagorean culture as like virtues to aspire to for my

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Legion. So that's another thing with Jagatai. He was just given the keys to conquer the Galaxy

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in the name of the Emperor very quickly. But when he-

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Actually using his brain too.

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Actually using his brain too. Like, hey, not everything's perfect with the Imperium.

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Yeah. Also probably the- is there any other Primarch who was more, who challenged the ideals

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of the Emperor more than Jagatai? I mean, Angon wasn't happy, but he didn't really have much to

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talk about. He was just like, my friends are dead.

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Yeah. There was a nice conversation with the Khan and Saint Gwynneas, I think, in Warhawk,

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where they were just like talking about how the whole Imperial truth is a sham and like completely

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fake, but oh well, it could be worse and let's follow Dad anyways, is basically what I got the

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gist of it, which is probably another reason why he's my favorite.

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The closest I can-

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Ted.

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Ted.

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I'll go ahead, Colin.

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The closest I can think of is when Martarian started fighting about the Webway and was like,

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there's some warp stuff going on here, Dad. Something's not right. That's not really

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questioning the Imperium. That's just like, Dad is screwing with the warp with the Golden Throne,

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something's not up. Malkador's lying to me.

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I was going to say technically Lorgoth, because he technically got it all wrong,

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you know what I mean? In the right way. He technically was way off. Yeah, he'd read the

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instructions of the previous essay and then he tried to apply it on this current one and it was

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not right.

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Or was it?

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Oh, that's a good question.

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Parity detected. We're moving on. We're moving on.

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Oh, I think I will say I did like how Jigatai didn't let the Imperium touch his planet pretty

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much. He's like, screw you. You're not putting a single factory on my planet.

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Yeah, no Mechanicum messing around. No, this is my home. You are not touching it.

434
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That was probably half the reason why the Dark Angels turned stranger.

435
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,360
No, no, don't touch me there. This is my Chagor is there.

436
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:19,080
Yeah, if you if you if you harm a single blade of grass on my fields, I will go ballistic.

437
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,520
I swear I'm gonna lose it.

438
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,720
There might be a Forge world in this segment.

439
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Yeah, so so when Jagatai took control of the Legion, it was it was divided. They didn't expect to

440
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,920
find any of the Primarchs when they did they just sort of bumped into them when they did.

441
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:48,520
And so all of his their varying fleets have gone all over the galaxy. And so

442
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,280
when Jagatai is found, he basically sends a signal to all of them saying everyone.

443
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:59,400
I'm your dad. Come home this instant. So they all do. And it takes some quite a few years.

444
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,760
I did have it written down somewhere, but I can't find exactly where it is. But it is a while.

445
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Oh, here it is. It took 100 years.

446
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,160
I think 100 for all the pioneer companies to come back to Jagor.

447
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,120
It's from what I can hear 100. I thought it was like 10 years.

448
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,840
I thought it was like it was something like 10 years to gather all these star.

449
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
That was in space marine time, though.

450
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,040
I think because 100 years they would have been near the end of the Great Crusade.

451
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:33,400
I can't I think I thought it was 10 years if I read in the book. I think it might be 100.

452
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,320
I might be wrong. I'm sure the Great Crusade is several hundred.

453
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Isn't it a few hundred years where like 200 years?

454
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,040
Yeah. But either way, if it's I feel like it's 100,

455
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,240
just because again, they were literally the furthest out in the galaxy.

456
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,680
And some of them were like, sorry, dad, we're quite far away.

457
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520
I'm not going to be home before like 10.

458
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,560
I'll get it wrong. It's a it's a happy little crime anyway.

459
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,800
They were far away. They were far.

460
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:05,880
They were very far. But what he did was when all the Astartes mustered at Chagoras,

461
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,400
he had about 50000 and there was because a lot of them were from terror and they'd just been

462
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,880
like recruiting and training up the Chagorean Astartes as well.

463
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,880
Also, because they've been all over the galaxy, none of them had any shared culture.

464
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Some were, you know, on the eastern front, the western front. Some were from Chagoras,

465
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,200
from some were from Chetara and different tribes amongst the Terrans.

466
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
And so what Jagatai did is he said, OK, we're going to do this thing called the

467
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,360
blooding or it's also known as the ascension of the white scars.

468
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,040
And he told all of his Astartes, grab a knife.

469
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,400
You're going to cut a scar on your face, basically from some some from temple to jaw,

470
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,440
some from cheek to jaw.

471
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Like you need to scar your face as a way for us all to have a common heraldry under my banner.

472
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:56,200
And over time, these scars would show different differentiates how,

473
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,080
you know, if you have like a say, a cut from your right cheek to your lip,

474
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,280
that's one brotherhood.

475
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Or if it's one over your left eye, that's another.

476
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,160
And so they would match them so you could tell what brotherhood they were from over time.

477
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,160
But originally, it was just OK.

478
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,960
That's my my little transformation.

479
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,000
And every Astartes also relinquished their old name and they they picked a new one.

480
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,200
There weren't any rules as to what you had to call yourself.

481
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:33,240
Like it wasn't, although a lot of Chagorean Astartes used Chagoras and its lineage as a way

482
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,840
to to derive new names, this wasn't mandatory.

483
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,880
And for the first generation of the white scars, a lot of them named themselves after their deeds

484
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,920
in battle.

485
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:49,960
And over time, as the Terran Astartes dwindled and more Chagorean Astartes were assimilated

486
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,880
into the chapter, they named themselves to honor the Khagan and also to honor Chagoras.

487
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:02,520
So over time, patterns would emerge on how they would be like, for example, Jubal Khan

488
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,160
was in the Horus heresy.

489
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,840
But there's also the current chapter master in the 41st Millennium is also called Jubal

490
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Khan, which is quite confusing.

491
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,720
But I think it's a way for him to honor the the Lord of Summer Lightning who died in the

492
00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:18,600
Horus heresy.

493
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,240
And so there's like repeated names and all that kind of stuff.

494
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:24,520
ALICE You know who said they're named after deeds?

495
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:32,600
I just had the unholy rogue idea that some white scar is called 360 Noscope in Chagorean.

496
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,920
KM Or like, you know, or just like, or throwing

497
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,440
knife across the mat, if you know what I mean.

498
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,480
ALICE His sacred name translates to 1v1 Mion Rust.

499
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,600
KM This is my honored battle brother 1v1 Mion Rust.

500
00:34:50,920 --> 00:35:00,280
That sounds like, what's the DLC for Fallout with Joshua Graham in it, and they have all

501
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,240
those tribal names.

502
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,240
And you know what I'm talking about?

503
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:04,520
Something hearts, something hearts.

504
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,640
ALICE Honest hearts.

505
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,080
KM Honest hearts.

506
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,720
Something like that.

507
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:08,840
I think it's that DLC.

508
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,480
The tribesmen have something similar, don't they?

509
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,560
They have like, like wounded kneels.

510
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,440
ALICE Honest hearts, yeah.

511
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,160
KM I think that's it.

512
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,880
ALICE When you said about the whole 360, I was just thinking Kiltacular Khan or something

513
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,360
like that.

514
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,760
KM Running riot.

515
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,600
KM Running riot Khan.

516
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,240
KM That's amazing.

517
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:31,880
ALICE That DLC was also 250 megabytes.

518
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Remember when games were under a gig?

519
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,400
KM Jesus Christ.

520
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,640
Do you remember playing Skyrim on your PS3 back in the day, boys?

521
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,640
KM Yeah, we were on my Xbox.

522
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,280
ALICE Now what did we play it on?

523
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,560
We played it on the toaster.

524
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,200
KM Skyrim for the Samsung Smart Fridge.

525
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,960
KM I think Skyrim's gonna be released tomorrow if we actually check our calendar because

526
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,160
they're releasing it again.

527
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,960
KM They're gonna release it until 40k becomes real life.

528
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,760
ALICE Literally.

529
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,960
KM It's never dying.

530
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,000
KM We're gonna have server tours by the time Skyrim's done.

531
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,120
KM That's why JaggedIcon was really an outsider.

532
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,160
He preferred Oblivion.

533
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,960
ALICE I love Oblivion.

534
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,880
I gotta say, I think I prefer Oblivion too.

535
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,760
KM I do have a quick question with the scarring, because obviously they're space marines.

536
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,320
I can't remember how they managed to do the scar.

537
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,480
ALICE I think they use a poison.

538
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,720
They use a poison on their blades so that it stops the healing process.

539
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:24,120
KM Ah.

540
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,880
ALICE So it kind of burns.

541
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,920
I think even the Khan did this, but because of his healing factor, it's so subtle you

542
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,200
can't really see it.

543
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,120
I know he's got the big red pattern on his forehead, but I thought that was more war

544
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,200
paint than an actual tattoo.

545
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,320
KM I'm not sure about that actually.

546
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,080
ALICE It's just a Bachelor Weekend mistake.

547
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,320
KM Yeah.

548
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,760
ALICE And basically, the Khan, similar to what I said earlier about how he didn't quite

549
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:00,120
assimilate everything from the Imperium into the White Scars, he told his sons to study

550
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,880
the noble pursuits.

551
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,600
And this is similar to the Blood Angels, where they were taught to indulge in the arts.

552
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:14,600
The White Scars were told, you know, do hunting, tell stories of your heritage and tales from

553
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:21,560
Chagoras, and do calligraphy, and honor your heritage as a way to, as something to aspire

554
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,480
to be better at than just fighting, even though the White Scars love a good fight.

555
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,200
Lorgar Aurelian, everyone's least favorite Primarch.

556
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,360
KM I like him, I like him.

557
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,200
I like how evil he is.

558
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,040
I like how pathetic and evil he is.

559
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520
ALICE I like that first word.

560
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,200
I like him because he's pathetic.

561
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,800
KM Well, it's like how everyone, you love to hate Erebus, isn't it?

562
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,440
If everyone was like Erebus, that's pretty meh.

563
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,400
If someone said, oh man, you look like you're the kind of Erebus character today,

564
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,480
you'd actually want to like, just destroy all of their favorite-

565
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,400
KM Yeah, you had to fight, just a straight up fight.

566
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,400
ALICE Same thing with Lorgar.

567
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040
KM I mean, being pre-Heresy Lorgar wouldn't be too bad.

568
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,760
He was a good guy.

569
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,880
KM Yeah, Lorgar is cool.

570
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,920
KM He just wasn't-

571
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,120
KM He's got a bad rep from guys like Major Kill, and so now everyone hates him.

572
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,280
ALICE Oh, too fair.

573
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,400
KM He was raised by Corvair.

574
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,080
ALICE He's meant to be hated, though.

575
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,520
He does have his sigma, he has his quote unquote sigma grindset moment.

576
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,840
KM I think a lot of his hate is unjustified.

577
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640
KM He was a prick, but-

578
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,640
ALICE We can agree on that.

579
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,440
KM What's Primarchal wasn't at some point?

580
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,160
ALICE Really?

581
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,960
KM Hmm.

582
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,640
KM Fulcon and the Eldar Shire.

583
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,000
ALICE Fulcon and the Eldar Shire.

584
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,280
KM Sorry, anyways.

585
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,680
ALICE So we just derailed this completely.

586
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,840
Either way, Lorgar hated the noble pursuits.

587
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,440
He saw them as a rejection of the Imperial truth, and so he whinged to the emperor about it a lot.

588
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,600
He'd say, Jackie Tye is doing that thing again.

589
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,800
KM Shut up, Lorgar.

590
00:38:53,800 --> 00:39:00,120
KM No one cares. Whereas Robute Guilliman said he found it suspicious and unworthy,

591
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,960
so he also didn't like them, but not in the same way, which is a bit mean.

592
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,160
So that's kind of the history of them up to Jackie Tye.

593
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,840
Before I go into some of the ways that they- some of the more information about what they were like,

594
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,720
I've got some quotes in the right hand side of the chat,

595
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,840
and I'm wondering if you guys would like to read a quote each.

596
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,040
So, what can we start with?

597
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,920
ALICE Which flavor do you want first?

598
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,200
KM Okay.

599
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,800
ALICE Does anyone want to do the first one with Torgon Khan at the top?

600
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,360
KM I'll go. I actually like the character of Torgon as well.

601
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,520
I hope we talk about him in a bit because he's pretty interesting.

602
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,760
Torgon, he's the Terran born one, isn't he?

603
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,720
ALICE Yes, yeah.

604
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,000
KM Yeah, I'll give him a little- excuse me, there's a jet.

605
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,480
ALICE The Togorian instructors were fulsome in their praise,

606
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,760
unlike the grudging hard men of the lunar walls.

607
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:02,520
Take pleasure in your prowess, they would chide him, mocking his earnestness.

608
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:08,520
A warrior is a blessed thing, the most fortunate of creatures, gifted by the heavens,

609
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:14,840
with unmatched power. It would be polite to acknowledge that from time to time.

610
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:21,720
KM They were pretty much just like, yeah, why are you being a little bit of a bitch,

611
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,880
just enjoy it, enjoy fighting.

612
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,720
ALICE Have a bit of fun when you're killing people, come on.

613
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:30,360
KM Yeah, don't be such a downer, man, what are you doing, man? Lighten the mood.

614
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:38,840
ALICE So, with that said, during the later parts of their time in the Great Crusade,

615
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,400
etc., they began to eventually recruit exclusively from Jogoris,

616
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,160
and they were the third smallest legion during the Great Crusade.

617
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,120
The only legions smaller were the Raven Guard and the Salamanders.

618
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:58,680
They loved jet bikes, due to their nomadic time on Jogoris, on the plains, and also the history of

619
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,600
trying to get from the most far-flung places quickly as possible. They liked speed,

620
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,120
they liked raiding, they liked things that go super quick.

621
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,680
And similar to that quote before, they were known as the laughing killers,

622
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,320
because they would strike fast, without mercy, and they would always enjoy battle,

623
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,000
they always had a bit of fun when they were doing it.

624
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Sanguinus, Primarch of the Blood Angels, remarked,

625
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:26,600
they smile often, and they laugh when they kill. Which is like, oh, Sangui. He had a soft spot for

626
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,160
the white scouts.

627
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,800
ALICE They loved fighting orcs, didn't they though?

628
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,280
KM Oh yeah.

629
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,000
ALICE The irony was like, them versus the orcs, everyone was having a good time.

630
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,960
KM Yeah, they were sent to end the orcs after the

631
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,320
Ullinor campaign, just before the Horus Heresy broke out. I think it was Horus, he was like,

632
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:52,200
finish off the orcs, go to, what was the planet called? Oh, I can't remember what it was called.

633
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,960
But they went to their last known stronghold, and he was like, Khan, could you just massacre them?

634
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,920
Could you just genocide the rest of the orcs? And he was like, yep, cool, no worries.

635
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:09,480
The first story in, I think it's War Without End, the couple of short stories is about Shiban,

636
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,600
Khan and Torgon Khan and stuff. And yeah, that's quite a good story about like the last fight

637
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,240
before they ended the orcs for the Great Crusade.

638
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:23,800
I think it was how and Colin mentioned earlier that they're often maligned as savage killers

639
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,240
akin to the space wolves or world eaters. But in actual fact, they are amongst the most capable

640
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:35,560
strategists of all the legions. And they are very disciplined. They are very courteous to the people

641
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:41,000
they meet, if not adherent to the rules that are imposed on them. So that, you know, there's like a

642
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,720
Terran born general who also is in the book I mentioned earlier, who I think is assimilated

643
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:52,360
into the Legion when she's working with them to kill the orcs. And Turgotai Yusuke is like,

644
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,280
I'm going to like give you warning like the Khan's a bit intimidating, but I'm going to help you

645
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:03,640
get used to him. And they're always quite polite and nice to people. There's even a story where

646
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,360
the the traitor, the loyalists from traitor legions are trying to get back to holy terror

647
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:14,920
under Mace of Varin, and a custodies is there. And there's like the Emperor's children loyalists,

648
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,760
there's the world eaters under Mace of Varin, and there's a few white scars. And the only one that

649
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,680
the custodian respects is the white scars because he's fought with them in the past. He's like,

650
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,920
I like these guys, these guys are cool, which is a bit unfortunate because they betray him.

651
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:36,840
But oh well, we'll get round to that later. So they also had immensely big great bonds of friendship

652
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:43,640
with the Lunar Wolves. Because Horus and Jagatai, they weren't like sanguineous and Horus levels of

653
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,680
like trust and friendship or Ferus, Manus and Fulgrim, but they were really, really close.

654
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:54,280
Not only because Horus was the first Primarch that Jagatai would meet, and he was like the kind of

655
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,960
his embodiment of what he would like, the example to follow for his legion, because he was the first

656
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:05,720
one he saw, and they were the first among equals when he was the whore master.

657
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,200
When he was the whore master.

658
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,200
When he was the whore master.

659
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,200
This is for the next episode.

660
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,200
Crusades left and right.

661
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:20,040
Yeah. And also they did a lot of joint campaigns together. They also had a really good friendship

662
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,800
with the Thousand Suns, because Magnus and Jagatai were really close because they were both seen as

663
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:35,320
outcasts. And in that regard, they both confided in each other. And Sanguineous also respected the

664
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:42,840
scars. And I think that was because he saw a shade of like the potential of violence the Blood

665
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:48,200
Angels were capable of as like a kind of similar thing to the White Scars with, you know, the

666
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,720
when they go hard, they go hard.

667
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:59,560
And just saying all those three, Magnus, Sanguineous and Jagatai, they were also bonded by,

668
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,720
I don't know if you're going to talk about this next, I might be jumping the gun, but they're all

669
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,520
bonded by, they're all pro-psycho, weren't they?

670
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:13,160
They were. I'll get to that in a bit. But before I do, I'm just going to say that there are grudges

671
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,520
though. I know Colin loves his great book of grudges and dwarves.

672
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,000
RETAKE THE REALMS.

673
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,760
You filthy grungy.

674
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,920
Rungi! That's an ancestor god!

675
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Yes, I know, I'm throwing it out there. We'll get in the fun. Kill kill stunties!

676
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:39,240
Well, I don't know if I'm correct in saying this, but I feel like

677
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:44,120
White Scars have amongst the most grudges of all the legions. And that's saying something,

678
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,240
considering the space wolves exist. But yeah, they don't get on well with the space wolves

679
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,640
because they see them as barbaric.

680
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,680
Like the space wolves are actually the image that a lot of people incorrectly attribute to the

681
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,400
White Scars.

682
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
And so there is resentment because of that. Yeah, they're like, hmm.

683
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,400
It's like they're tainted.

684
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:09,480
Yeah, they also don't like the Death Guard. And that got worse with the whole

685
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,560
Martarian falling to chaos thing and Siege of Terror. And they also really don't get,

686
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,960
probably of all the legions, they really don't like the Raven Guard. They are really,

687
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:26,760
really, really opposed to the Raven Guard, which supposedly originates from, there was a Raven

688
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Guard chaplain that fell to the frill of an enslaver during an operation known as Kronos.

689
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:37,080
And the White Scars could have given their aid but didn't. And apparently that's where like...

690
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:42,600
This is the 40k timeline, right? I think this event is closer towards the 40k timeline.

691
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Yeah, but they didn't really have much dealings during the Horus heresy period, I think. But

692
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,320
finding an enslaver is pretty crazy. But I think the idea that the resolve of the chaplain,

693
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,120
which is also a big deal for a legion to have a chaplain is supposed to be the most mentally

694
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:06,280
stable of an Astartes chapter. And the fact that he didn't have the constitution to stop being

695
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:12,120
enslaved by a quote, enslaver, they were a bit like, bit weak. And then they just didn't like

696
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:19,400
the Raven Guard after that. Is it also because their tactics are so, like, I guess opposite,

697
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:26,360
because the White Scars don't hide, they're in your face. Yeah, there is that as well. They think

698
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:32,200
their combat doctrine is a bit sus. Do they both fight the Tao? Are they both in that conflict?

699
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:38,600
Yeah, there is an interesting book about Kaavan, Shrike and Khorasaros Khan fight together, because

700
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Khorasaros Khan is doing a hunt, because of course he is. He's doing one of his Master of the Hunt

701
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,400
things. And he's looking for a target from the Alpha Legion. He's like a chaos empowered warlord.

702
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,800
And he's like, he's here. And then they go to the planet and Kaavan Shrikes there with his Raven

703
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,040
Guard. And he's like, what are you doing here? They're like, we're just doing something else.

704
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,440
And he's like, all right, I get to kill him. And I get to cut off his head and bring it back to

705
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,080
Chagoras. And Kaavan's like, fine. And then they just ganged up on the Alpha Legion guy and killed

706
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,360
him. It's quite fun. Like Mully's in the schoolyard just kicking him in the shins.

707
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Yeah, yeah. There's a cool piece of artwork from that, at least the Tao bit. I just said,

708
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,280
oh yeah, it's really cool imagining them working together like that.

709
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Yeah, I like the image of Korsaro as well, just like slashing, just

710
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,480
smacking Shadowson in the back and she's like, ah! There's a picture of him just like,

711
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,600
they should have finished the job. They should have finished the job.

712
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,000
But then where would all the Tao Rule 34 come from?

713
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,760
I must end this now.

714
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,200
Shadowson's not that bad actually. But I'm not going to talk about Tao. We're not talking about

715
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Tao. Nevermind. Yeah, Tao absolutely made security beyond Rule 34. Anyway, so during the Horus

716
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:07,720
heresy, like we mentioned before, they did stay loyal, but there was a warrior lodge in the Legion,

717
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:12,680
because of course, some of them were the warrior lodges for anyone who hasn't read the books,

718
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:19,720
were basically ways for the war master and elements of chaos before the war master became

719
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:25,320
corrupted to sow the seeds of doubt and to go, we're all brothers, we're all fighting together,

720
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:32,040
and our loyalty is above the Emperor, wink wink, slowly slowly getting ahead of themselves.

721
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:40,920
And some of them like Haseek Khan, I believe it is, sided with Horus. And like I said earlier,

722
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,360
when he was on the ship with Mace of Varan and the Emperor's children, the custodian and Garrow and

723
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:52,440
some other guys, I think it's Tylos Rubio, they were like, hey, you're from Traitor Legions,

724
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,080
apart from the White Scars. We're not letting you in to terror until we like check you're okay.

725
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:05,480
That you're not going to like do anything shifty. And Haseek was so sneaky, he pinned, like,

726
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,840
he got his men to wear Emperor's children armor, slaughter a bunch of civilians on one of the ships,

727
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,640
then blow up the camera that was filming them, then pin it on the Emperor's children.

728
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:23,480
And then before they got caught out, they like ganged up on the custodian and killed him. And

729
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:29,000
it's like, oh, White Scars. When they know what they're doing, they know what they're doing.

730
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,640
They were traitors. They weren't proper White Scars. They were Traitor ones. So no wonder they

731
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:40,120
were sneaky. Yeah. And they almost kill Garrow and that. But then like they murder all the

732
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,680
Emperor's children. They basically go Emperor's children, you've been found to be excommunicate

733
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Traitorous. We're going to kill you all in the name of the Emperor. Wink. Then they kill all

734
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,960
the Emperor's children. Then they kill all the world eaters. And then Mace of Arran goes mental

735
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:58,120
and just because he's a crazy, super good fighter, and he's angry, he just like gets the upper hand.

736
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:06,920
And then Garrow eventually sorts them out. I think Haseek escapes though. And when Jagatai

737
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,480
heard about this, he was very annoyed. But he kind of understood why they did it. He was like, well,

738
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,920
we've got good ties to the War Master. And you know, I don't 100% agree with the Emperor about

739
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:24,520
everything. So he punished, he basically gave them the option. I'm going to either have you executed

740
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:33,560
or you redeem yourself in the eyes of the Legion. And I think I can't remember if Haseek was he made

741
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,320
it back to the car. Definitely in a start he's dead. He made it back to the car and he said,

742
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:43,880
no, I'll take responsibility. I did what I did. I still believe what I do. You'll just have to kill

743
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,160
me. And he didn't like to do it. But then Jagatai killed a few of them because they were like, no,

744
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:57,000
I think I agree with the War Master. Sorry. And this is all before actually, ironically, wasn't it

745
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:02,840
during when they're all part of the warrior logic. They actually, this is the part where the

746
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:08,040
white scars, they actually don't know. We said earlier, the warrior logic is like, that's how

747
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,280
chaos like seeped in. But originally the warrior logics are essentially, the funny is they're all

748
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,640
just men in cloaks. Like, does anyone know the film Hot Fuzz? Where they all sing around, they're

749
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:25,320
like, the greater good, the greater good. Hack. That's what they essentially are. And then the

750
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:31,320
whole point is that they're like places where warriors are, everyone's equal in this area,

751
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:38,040
sort of thing. No, no. Basically. Yeah. And they all kind of just believe that Horus,

752
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,160
like, obviously there's a lot to comment about the Emperor being a tyrant. So, and they're like,

753
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,880
he's earned it. Yeah, he should have a go. Why not? So they actually don't know that chaos

754
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,960
is involved at this point. They kind of just think it's like, it's just a general coup, like,

755
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:58,200
you know, standard coup, not chaos, souped up tentacle, you know, infested coup. Demons were

756
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:04,120
involved as far as they knew. No, so they're very much, their betrayal, like even above Prospero,

757
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,320
when like another group tried to like, they try to force Jagatai, don't they, to like join Horus.

758
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,320
And then he just, they're all like, this is for the best. You know, Horus is a, you know,

759
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,200
the Emperor's ditched us. Horus is a better leader because he's actually, you know, he's a

760
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:26,120
fighting man. And then Jagatai just goes, you made decisions for me? It's like, what?

761
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,680
You didn't wait for me to tell you what to do? Who are you again? Yeah.

762
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,440
And that's the kind of, that's the kind of, that's the fate of the traitorous

763
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,160
wise guards. They basically get, as soon as they realize that what they, they're like,

764
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,000
oh, we just wanted to make the right choice. You don't make a choice. You're the soldier.

765
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:50,360
So they got him slapped. But yeah, they, and then they, when Jagatai

766
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:55,960
was making his mind up, he was confronted by Mortarion. He was confronted by Magnus. We'll

767
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,200
talk more about that on his video, I'm sure. But long story short, he goes, no, we're going to be

768
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,360
loyalists. We're going to go to terror and we're going to help out. They, for a while, they harassed

769
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,080
the traitors and chipped away at them. And at first they were really good at it. They were just

770
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,960
cleaning house. But over time, the Emperor's children and death guard, they started to see

771
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,680
the patterns. They got really good at countering the white scars. And then eventually they just

772
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:27,240
started harrassing them back. So at this point, they go, okay, we're at diminishing returns.

773
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:31,400
The war's coming to a close. We've got to get back to terror. They get stalled by the Alpha Legion.

774
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,960
They get stalled by the Death Guard. They, you know, it takes them a while. And there's a lot

775
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:42,040
of stuff going on with that, which we'll get into another time. But they get back to terror.

776
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,760
And they're amongst some of the only Astartes on terror, because there's not many legions that

777
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,080
actually are there at the last crucial battle. Everyone knows the Imperial Fists are there.

778
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,360
The Blood Angels are there. The Space Wolves originally are there, but before the battle,

779
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,800
they bugger off for the most part. You know, they try to head Horus off before he gets to terror.

780
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,560
And the Knights err into there. And that's pretty much it. And then it's just the Imperial army and

781
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:12,600
Titans and stuff like that. So they help defend the homeworld, the throne world, should I say.

782
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:17,800
And they fight with distinction. Dorn isn't really happy with their tactics, because he's like,

783
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,920
stay in the walls! And they're like, no! And they're just going out and chopping people up

784
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:27,720
on their bikes. Wars are cringe. Official statement of war. Wars are cringe. They should be behind us.

785
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:37,880
And yeah, they are there when the war is won in the name of the Imperium. And for 70 years after

786
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:43,880
the traitors are pushed back from terror, Jaggedy Karn leads the White Scars to slowly retake

787
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:50,040
traitor worlds and purge the fleeing forces from the Warmasters' broken fleets. But when he gets

788
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,800
to Chagoras, he finds the sector has been raided by the Dark Elder, the Drukhari. And his homeworld

789
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:02,280
has barely been holding... Chagoras has been okay, but everywhere else in the system has just been

790
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,800
decimated by the Dark Elder. Because they've seen a chance and they've gone, oh, we're going to do a

791
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:11,960
bit of enslaving. Oh no, not again. A little bit of trolling. Yeah. Exactly like that.

792
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:19,240
And I know what you said earlier, Conan. Not the best idea, but look, his people from his homeworld

793
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:26,840
were taken. So Jaggedy goes, no, you don't come to my homeworld and you take my people, I'm going

794
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,880
to get you. So he starts going through the Yasan sector. He purges as many Xenos in his way as he

795
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:38,120
can. He's told about eventually the Codex Astartes and the ruling of like, Jaggedy, you've got to

796
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:45,480
break up your legion. No more legions. And he goes, okay. So he finishes off the Yasan campaign to

797
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:54,120
reclaim his sector of space. Then he divides up his legion into chapters. And then he takes the

798
00:56:54,120 --> 00:57:00,600
remaining White Scars chapter to slay the traitor Astartes. He fights the Dark Mechanicum,

799
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:07,560
heretical mutants, whatever's in his way. And then eventually he gets to Corosil Five and he's

800
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:13,720
pursuing the Dark Eldar who took his people from Jagoris. And the Archon, the guy in charge is

801
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:18,600
kind of there standing in front of a webway portal. He flips the V at Jaggedy or something,

802
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,160
gets his hackles up and he goes, right, I'm not standing. And then Jaggedy goes, Keshek, follow

803
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,520
me. And he charges into the webway portal with his first company. And that's the last time we see him.

804
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:36,040
And, um, very sad. Yeah. Very sad. Much sad. Don't get me wrong. Not blaming the guy for what he did

805
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:42,280
in terms of like justification. Oh, believe me, definitely a brave, righteous thing. Just, uh,

806
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,000
cooler heads might have not done that. But that would probably not.

807
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,120
That's a weird Minos kind of thing to do. Then Jaggedy wouldn't be Jaggedy.

808
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:58,200
I love the, uh, just to come back, just a very tiny part to the Siege of Terror just before

809
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,800
Jaggedy has disappeared. I love like when they, when you read a warhawk and a lot of the books

810
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:09,320
where the white scars are featured on the Siege of Terror, they're so good because they're like,

811
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,840
there's that really, I was just going to touch like just very cool part about the white scars,

812
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:18,440
which is it's the part where they have like a layered defense, which obviously as we're all,

813
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:23,320
we all play Total War here, so we're all Siege experts, but they have like a layer defense

814
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,480
and like Dawn, like you said, Dawn doesn't want them going across, but Jaggedy says,

815
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,120
would we save lives if we broke out? And they're like, yes, we lose men.

816
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,080
That's what we're meant to, like, that's what was meant to happen. And I always imagined like

817
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,160
the part like drums are like beating really hard because they literally hear like the thrum

818
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,000
of the white scars jet bikes. And they just, people were like, what is that? And they're like,

819
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,960
the fenders just here like flying overhead. And it's a literally like dive straight into the

820
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:55,720
Death God. It's like the, it's for, here's one for Colin. It's like that bit in Halo Reach,

821
00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:01,160
when all the warthogs are charging at the covenant in that big line. It's like tip of the spear,

822
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:10,920
but with white scars. I think we should definitely give the, the nice mentions of

823
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:20,600
Jocadi for shock putting the Leviathan Dreadnought. Spoilers for Warhawk Sai, but he, he one hands it.

824
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,240
He one hands it across the battlefield. It's not even like a toss. It's across the battlefield.

825
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,960
It's like 10 tons or so. Oh, it's a ton.

826
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,720
S Some Colin lore for you.

827
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,560
On athletic as I am, that's how I used to shoot basketballs.

828
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:40,760
S My favorite part is when he fought just a little bit with the white scars or finished the, with

829
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,800
the siege part, but just the last little bit is it has to be said about him versus Mortarion.

830
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:51,640
Cause they had like kind of reoccurring fights during the heresy. Like they fought on the ashes

831
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,560
of Prospero rest in peace. S

832
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:58,280
He spanks Mortarion pretty good on Prospero and he runs away like a little live baby.

833
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,200
S We'll get some more to say something else.

834
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:06,680
S And then my favorite part is when they fight a guy, this is demon Mortarion on terror.

835
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:13,080
S This is like, the book does a really good job of showing like the white scar. There's a part

836
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:20,040
which says they willingly let some of them like get, be taken prisoner and get executed so they

837
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,560
could spread misinformation about this attack on Mortarion. And it's like, holy, like they,

838
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,840
S you know, they are exhausted and they had this one last little attack on Mortarion,

839
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,120
the big smelly moth man and Jagatai, I won't spoil that for anyone, but you know,

840
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,120
I'm pretty sure at one point he just goes like, you know, Mortarion just like, you know,

841
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,360
trying to justify himself. And then Jagatai is like, you know, it's all okay now.

842
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,880
S It just absolutely decks him.

843
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:55,080
S I'm sure that everyone wants to wipe immediately from their minds,

844
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,280
not bring Shrek into this.

845
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:02,680
S It reminds me a lot of when Fulgrim like tries to challenge Jagatai to like a duel and Jagatai is

846
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,080
like, no, I will win. Don't, don't. And he's like, oh, why do you think you'll win? It's like,

847
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,880
because you'll treat it like a game and I will try to kill you. It's like, oh, oh, oh.

848
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,160
S He's the master of one-liners, dude. He's so good.

849
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,920
S Oh, there's the line after that, isn't there?

850
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,600
S Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, I hear you do strange things to your, your, your vessels.

851
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:26,120
It's like, I hear you do strange things to your start. He's like, oh, oh, I love that.

852
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:26,840
S Jagatai.

853
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,240
S That's the biggest mic drop, I think in the entire Horus Harris. Oh no, that and

854
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:31,880
Rogo Dorn.

855
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,800
S His last words to Martean are so good though.

856
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:38,760
S I think that's the, that's definitely the biggest mic drop though. Or that's,

857
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,440
it's hard to compete with that. And then the one with Rogo Dorn saying to Fulgrim,

858
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:49,640
you're just an idiot on a wall. Like, yeah, but the White Scars, they have, they, they perform

859
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,720
in the seed of terror. They really do. And even when like no one expected them to,

860
01:01:54,440 --> 01:02:00,040
unless then they're very much the, you know, the, I was, there's a bit of a rant here,

861
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:05,560
but I had to, I really wanted to say it because the, like the Mongol betrayal of them is so good

862
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,400
because like, I think when we're all growing up in history, you think that the Mongols were like,

863
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,120
like even in old TV, they're like, oh, they are like savages. And it's like leaned into that

864
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:19,560
by the writers. But actually when you learn about history, the Mongols are, if not, they were more

865
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:24,360
more technology advanced than a lot of the people they were fighting. They were obviously just as

866
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:29,240
cultured as well. And so they tackle that really well. And the series on Netflix, Marco Polo is

867
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,560
quite good for that because you see like the element of like, ah, they're like, they're

868
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:38,040
introducing changes to like the people they like, oh, we've taken your city. Now we're going to like

869
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:44,840
help you with like standard of living. You're like, huh? What? Yeah. They are, they're incredibly

870
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:50,920
well done by, I say Chris Wright, the author, because the, the Y-scar is very much like,

871
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,080
cause a lot of Warhammer obviously is a link to like, you know, always like mythological and

872
01:02:55,080 --> 01:03:00,760
it's like historical reference, but they are very much like when they are fleshed out and it's like

873
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:07,480
quite difficult to get across how incredibly intelligent they are. And they're very much a,

874
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:12,280
you know, they, they almost even say they rely on the guys that them looking like savages because

875
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,360
they know that people underestimate them. And I know a lot of people say, oh, the salamanders are

876
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,760
the good guy legion, but I'm like, to be honest, I think the white scars have a pretty good run

877
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:26,760
for their money. Yeah. They're like, we actually like treat people well. We have manners. We're

878
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,720
like, we don't, we don't go to all like be a bit too crazy with like our own achievements. They're

879
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,320
just like, and they like, they look out for like saving civilians and you know,

880
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:45,560
I'm just a nice guy. But when your whole gimmick is crimes, it's like the whole thing is burning

881
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,680
people alive. Yeah. They've had tough ones to reconcile. I mean, I mean, it's like Xenos

882
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:56,600
and Heretics and Mutants. So yeah, they don't matter, but doesn't Vulcan have a, I don't

883
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:02,680
have a conversation with the Primark about how they're way too war crimey. And then the other

884
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,040
Primark goes to Vulcan. All right, what about your flamethrowers and he just doesn't understand?

885
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,680
Is that- I think that's Conrad Kurz. I think it's ironic. I think it might be ironically Conrad

886
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:18,440
Kurz who says that, which is like, it coming from anybody else, it would mean more.

887
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:26,760
Do we, do people want to hear what Mortarian and Jagatai's last words are to each other? Is

888
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,920
that too big of spoilers? I think we should save that for Jagatai's episode. Yeah, I feel like

889
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:39,080
that's a history specific video. But if you would like, I have another quote. I still got two quotes

890
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:45,160
left to go. So we've got one from Shiban and one from Jagatai. So anyone want to read Shiban's?

891
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,720
Eli, would you like to take this or would you rather I take it? I can take it.

892
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:58,360
I wish, sometimes I wish the white scars turned to Slynech. But anyway, I'm not gonna.

893
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:05,000
Okay. All right. Killing is nothing without beauty and it may only be beautiful if it is

894
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:11,320
necessary. He smiled as he rode. The memory lifted some of his torpor. When the Khan kills,

895
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:16,840
it is beautiful. We do like the white scars and they love their Primarch.

896
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:26,840
Is that Shiban Tatshir? Or Tatchsir? Am I saying that right? He's the one with the robot.

897
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:33,480
He's got like some augmatics and stuff and he has like.

898
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:38,840
He lost a load of his body. Like there's a thing about just a little dabble in white scars here

899
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:44,040
as well. They don't like dreadnoughts, do they? I can't remember why. I must say I can't remember.

900
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,120
And it's like a. I'll go into it in a bit. The prison. Yeah. Yeah.

901
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:55,080
Also, so with that in mind, I will get to the dreadnoughts in a bit, but I'm just gonna now

902
01:05:55,080 --> 01:06:01,240
talk about how they're organized and then after this, I suppose we'll just talk about some cool

903
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:07,080
characters from the white scars and that'll be us for today. Hell yeah. Talking about the white

904
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:16,280
scars during their peak, they had about 95,000 to start. He's doing the Great Crusade and most

905
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:21,640
of the time even into the 30 into the 41st millennium, they often comprise into 10 to 15

906
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:28,840
man squads. They're because they are never based anywhere very long. They don't. It's like a good

907
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:36,120
bit where I mentioned earlier, the general lady from the army is chatting to Jagatai and he's like

908
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,560
she's talking about like supply lines and people are complaining like it's really difficult to get

909
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,640
supplies to you because you don't have like a centralized base and Jagatai is like that's our

910
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:49,240
strength. We don't have like a big target you can attack because if you chip away at us, we're all

911
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:57,080
over the place. You can't really like interrupt our command structure into the the 41st millennium.

912
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:04,200
Although Jagatai was in charge of the Legion as the Khagan or Khan of Khans, now the honorific of

913
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:12,760
Great Khan is given to the equivalent of chapter master and they rule the fortress monastery of

914
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:18,680
Kwan Zhao, which is on the homeworld of Chagoris. Like I said earlier, the captains of the chapter

915
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:24,840
and previously the Legion are known as Khans. Prior to the Codex Astartes, they used to have

916
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:33,000
20 different companies known as hordes. So imagine, I think it's probably a thousand Astartes

917
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:41,320
per company times 20 and these were known as Ordus and the Ordus were commanded by

918
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:46,840
quote Noyan Khans which each led these hordes during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy

919
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:52,520
and they're like the equivalent of a Lord Commander. Hasek Khan who I mentioned earlier,

920
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:59,080
he was one of these Noyan Khans and they had names such as the Ordu of Stone and the Ordu of Earth.

921
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:05,080
Companies in the chapter are known as Brotherhoods and each company is led by a Khan. So a captain

922
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:12,120
leads a hundred Astartes or so and that's a company. In the current 41st millennium there are

923
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:17,720
ten companies. They are the Spearpoint Brothers, the Firefist Brothers, the Eagle Brothers, the

924
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:23,560
Talwar Brothers, the Stormwrath Brotherhood, the Hawke's Eye Brotherhood, the Painstalker Brotherhood,

925
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:29,480
the Bloodriver Brotherhood, the Stormbolt Brotherhood and the Windspeaker Brotherhood. So

926
01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:35,320
they love to put brotherhood at the end of every one of them. There's a lot of brother in Warhammer

927
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:41,800
in general though, just everything is... Super Jagatai Brothers. Do you guys have this as well?

928
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,280
Like it's almost like brothers like our gender neutral like acknowledgement term for someone who

929
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:51,160
works within Warhammer. It's like yes brother. Instead of being like colleague, friend, it's just

930
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:56,680
everyone is brother. Oh hi lady. I do like in Deathwing, I think it's Space Hulk Deathwing,

931
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,240
it's just like when you're in the lobby it says brothers waiting.

932
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,840
I like to imagine that space brains are fighting alongside sisters of battle which is going brother

933
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:13,080
and it's very clearly a story time. Yeah. Sister I am pinned here.

934
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,840
At least it's not on Ne-chan. That'd be worth it.

935
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:29,800
More than probably any other chapter, we know that chapters have sometimes variations on the

936
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:36,520
different specialist roles. Like for example you get Iron Fathers in the Iron Hands, you get

937
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:42,120
Rune Priests in the Space Wolves. Pretty much every one of those specialist ranks in the White

938
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:50,120
Scars has a unique name. So psykers are known as Zadion Aga and librarians or Astartes who are also

939
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:55,960
psykers are known as Stormseers and their use of the warp they call the test of heaven.

940
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:05,960
You mentioned earlier how that's the White Scars were pro-librarian and the interesting thing about

941
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,960
the Stormseers is they always knew about the terrors of the warp from their inception. They

942
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:15,080
always knew kind of like there's something a bit malevolent going on here and so they were always

943
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:21,240
a bit more restrained in their power. One of the reasons they were you know they always saw it as

944
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,200
useful but unlike the Thousand Sons who were like give me all this put it in my mouth yum

945
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:32,600
warp yum yum they were like no no no calm down that's a bit too much warp you've got a problem.

946
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:42,520
So Jagatai refused to hide the machinations of the warp to his Legion unlike a lot of the other you

947
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:47,880
know pro-psyker guys like Magnus he was like no I'm not gonna lie to them I'm gonna say be a bit

948
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:53,640
careful with this and in that regard he would argue with the Emperor quite a lot because the

949
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,880
Emperor's like no you shouldn't you shouldn't tell them about this he's like no I'm telling them

950
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:03,000
I'm telling them they're adults they can play with the warp as much as they want but they gotta be

951
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:11,800
careful use protection and alongside Sanguindius and Magnus the Red he would found the doctrines

952
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:18,920
of the Librarius yet even though everyone says it was Magnus and Sanguindius Jagatai also did a lot

953
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,880
of the work and he's never been credited for it just because that was mostly it wasn't it mostly

954
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:30,600
his idea I think because they the one who came up with it more or less they feared so okay sorry

955
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:37,000
I'll say they feared like Jagatai hates interference from terror that's why they

956
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:42,520
always run so fast but they always knew like they always knew something would come along that would

957
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:48,680
restrain them so the Librarius was like a answer like oh here's an actual rules where here's our

958
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:54,120
rule set and our philosophy that will help us keep ourselves in check so it was a counter

959
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:59,160
proposal to stop the it's like let's make our own rules before someone imposes their rules on us

960
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,920
yeah but yeah yeah yeah and and Magnus wanted psychers on Tevar the Khan said no let's restrain

961
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,200
them a bit and Sanguindius mediated between the two he was like I kind of see both of your points

962
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:16,200
so let's find a compromise so therapist essentially Sanguindius is the best therapist

963
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:21,720
he's just the best boy isn't he there's nothing wrong with him and we it's not like he's not

964
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,920
too perfect Sanguindius but it's always like damn it man he's like Brad Pitt you know what I mean

965
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:33,720
you're like I can't hate you but like god damn he does have anger problems uh yeah oh true true

966
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,360
but only when like hundreds of his like sons are massacred by a demon in one fell swoop like that

967
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:43,480
fair enough that's a very relatable moment in the modern era it's like swing of an axe

968
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:52,600
hundred dead oh I'm cross um child killed by a demon yeah yeah um so how I mentioned this earlier

969
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:59,080
that um the white scars do not like dreadnoughts um some would say they don't have them they do

970
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,320
they just don't like using them they have to have them just in case and they are known as

971
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:09,560
uhan solban and there's a few reasons why they don't like them one their combat doctrine doesn't

972
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:18,440
really often need some slow moving tank so there's that but also they see them as somewhat like a

973
01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:23,880
prison like if you're interred in a dreadnought you can't roam the planes anymore you can't feel

974
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,760
the wind in your hair as you're going along on your jet bike you're entombed in a piece of metal

975
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:34,840
and it's not really an honored thing like the iron fathers they want to be a dreadnought they're like

976
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,320
the iron hands are like I want to be in that thing because that's really cool opposite for

977
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,960
the white scars they're like get that thing away from me I don't like it and it is uh it is a

978
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:50,920
depressing thing to be a white scar in a dreadnought never feeling the wind in your hair ever smelling

979
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:59,320
the grass you know release your inhibitions fill the rain on your skin wheels on it but put down

980
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:07,000
wheels on the god damn treadmill that'll be amazing I uh that reminds me of a tabletop game

981
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:13,560
uh not I played it's one that happened like over 10 years ago uh it's just what you're saying the

982
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:21,080
dreadnoughts don't fit in with their uh doctrine it was it was before I think uh tabletop warhammer

983
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,000
before you had to deploy a certain amount of forces like you couldn't just put everything in reserve

984
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:32,600
uh this guy he was playing white scars and he would put everything in reserve so then he just

985
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:39,400
deep strike it all at once uh but the problem was the other guy had just a bunch of crew

986
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:48,600
and they could deploy very close to the deployment zone of the other player so when the next turn

987
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,240
came like turn one comes white scar goes they're all in reserve I'm not putting anything on the

988
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,760
board yet and then the crew guy just goes all right I put all of my units in your deployment zone

989
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:05,800
and you lose because like you couldn't deep strike anywhere until I think it's like at least the

990
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,520
third turn I think I think he was he was coming in from reserve so you came on from your board edge

991
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:16,040
basically yeah because his board edge was completely taken up by crute and he'd be at least

992
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:24,600
nine inches away from an enemy unit to deploy it's like a tournament legend yeah I like to

993
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:31,240
yeah I like to imagine like some white scar battlefield is a complete loss because the

994
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:38,680
conga line and the crute are just in the way. The rules used to be crazy man the necrons when you

995
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:44,120
played necrons if you lost like 60 percent of your army you auto lost I think they just like

996
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:49,640
phased out and left yeah but they were really OP they're in addition necrons were crazy there

997
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:56,120
was a bit of white scar's tabletop lore for everything yeah still need wheels wheels on

998
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:01,000
am dreadnoughts please well you're saying about the dreadnoughts for this reason a lot of the

999
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,640
times they actually send these dreadnoughts to holy terror because they're like go to terror go

1000
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,800
to chagoras and guard the gene stores and that's more or less all they use them for because they're

1001
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:15,320
like you're not going to be seeing much battle mate I'm sorry but you can still serve the the

1002
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:21,160
the chapter if you can just watch our like our spawn point in a way like watch our gene stores

1003
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:26,280
make sure no one messes with it you'll still have some honor in that regard did they use them did

1004
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,520
they use them want I think there's one battle where Jagatai was like all right we have to use

1005
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,800
the dreadnoughts yeah and he wasn't happy about he's like we have to I'm sorry we have to chuck in

1006
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:46,200
the big lunch boxes at the enemy get our sandwiches back um and yeah like um just rattling off the

1007
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,720
last of the uh the specialists so the apothecaries of the legion are called mcchi the tech marines

1008
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:59,080
are called iron khans which is quite cool that's a really good name iron khans it sounds like a 90s

1009
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:07,240
um like action movie doesn't like a wrestler wrestler is in iron khan I did like that too fair

1010
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:15,480
um and yeah uh and the chaplains are just known as chaplains but the elite chaplain is known as the

1011
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:22,200
voice of the storms so that's pretty cool um the elite first company uh terminators are called the

1012
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,400
kesheg they're not as speedy because they're obviously in terminator armor but again they're

1013
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:33,160
usually an honor guard they're usually body guards to the great khan or in the 41st millennium uh

1014
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:38,280
korsaro khan because we'll go into it later the great khan's not very healthy these days um

1015
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:46,360
and during the um porous heresy those who were marked for punishment were known as the sagya

1016
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,640
mazan so uh hibu khan uh you've probably seen a picture of him he's got like this kind of like

1017
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,960
really cool face paint thing going on he's got like all these like scribblings on his armor he's

1018
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:01,960
got a big like uh I guess like the equivalent of like a 40k katana uh those are the guys who

1019
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:07,240
originally were traitor and then they went sorry won't do it again and then they they then redeemed

1020
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:13,720
themselves through battle as and also I believe um togan was similar he oh yeah stint he was a

1021
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:18,840
traitor and then he's like I love you shiban and then they were separated and then he came back and

1022
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,000
shiban's like I don't like you anymore because you were a traitor for a bit he's like sorry

1023
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:31,160
uh yeah rub you know sort of like pivots his leg like nervously in the corner like just hold

1024
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:36,520
I'd love that part where they uh they reek the uh was it the sagya mazan I think it's the name

1025
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,480
yeah yeah sagya mazan I love the bit where they like were they a lot of them when they're still

1026
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:46,600
with the before they return back to terror in the scene they redeemed themselves isn't is it

1027
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,360
are you going to talk about that or should I uh she can go through that obviously yeah they have

1028
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:55,480
like a really cool part where they kind of they use it like a trap and jagatai hates a dirt because

1029
01:18:55,480 --> 01:19:01,880
he's kind of knows that redeeming themselves but he they they like say that we let us do this and

1030
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:09,160
so they kind of leave his flagship um as a trap for matarian so matarian like kind of teleports

1031
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:15,640
in with his uh honor guard and they look around they're like huh where did everyone go there's no

1032
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:21,160
way the jagatai left his like flagship and they went on the other side they did and then the uh

1033
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:25,800
the sagya mazan they jump over the right like they all of them they're all traitors yeah you know

1034
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,880
they've all been shunned they've all but they all just like all of them they just redeem themselves

1035
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,880
most of them are terror the terranborn as well so this is where they kind of like bring back

1036
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:38,520
their honor that then they defy horus the you know the corrupted traitor and they just attack

1037
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:43,640
matarian and they have no chance of winning but they just do it I think matarian asked why would

1038
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,960
you do it and I think one of them just like the tour gun thing is the last one alive he just smiles

1039
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,680
and just laughs they're like you know like a redemption why not redemption brothers why

1040
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:57,400
not I've got nothing to do on this weekend yeah and then they just sadly they all they all die

1041
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:03,080
but it's uh I love that moment because it's like uh you know they they really like just they they

1042
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:08,600
couldn't catch them in the end you know too fast yeah um but that's more or less all I wanted to

1043
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,520
talk about in that section so before we go on to the last bit where we talk about specific

1044
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:18,120
characters for rounding off the episode I've got one more quote to go and I believe Colin you're

1045
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,760
the only one left not not not to have read one so would you like to read this one from our boy

1046
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:30,120
Jagatai I would be happy to you are nobody's slaves he said his voice low but firm you are

1047
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:36,360
the ordo of jagatai we take orders from no one we take no one's word we are on our own just as we

1048
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:43,240
always have been and if there is truth to be found in this then we will find it ourselves

1049
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:48,520
we gotta love jagatai and the white skulls I like how there's like so many elements and layers to

1050
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,840
them like we were just talking about the sagal mazan like there's just so many like cool little oh

1051
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,440
they did this well they were traded for a bit oh they had like a kind of redeeming company oh

1052
01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,960
that's quite cool oh they don't like dreadnoughts oh that's quite cool they've got little lows

1053
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:09,320
oh that's cool moments you know right so we've now come to the last segment where we're going to just

1054
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,320
briefly touch on some of the characters and again Hal you wanted to talk about some here and there

1055
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:21,320
so if I've missed any that you want to talk about go for it so starting off there the great khan in

1056
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:29,240
the 41st millennium is jubal khan not to be confused with the other jubal khan he is currently too

1057
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:36,520
injured to effectively lead the chapter he was taken by I believe it was the red corsairs for

1058
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:43,000
a bit and tortured and he was so badly injured he can't fight like he used to and he's quite old

1059
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:52,520
so he is in charge but only in an advisory position at the moment other 41st millennium guys

1060
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:58,680
we've got korsaro khan the master of the hunt and captain of the third company he leads the

1061
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:05,640
eagle brotherhood and he is effectively their appointed war leader because jubal is too injured

1062
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:12,120
he is the one in practicality leading the white scars into battle because he's got you know this

1063
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:17,800
guy goes out into the galaxy they have this scroll of vengeance right every time the white

1064
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:24,040
scars fight an enemy that gets away they get out a pen or a quill probably and they go what was his

1065
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:31,880
name uh trevor the despoiler right okay trevor and trevor the despoiler yeah trevor the smasher

1066
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:37,720
it's like trevor he's going on the scroll and they'll write his name down and then the master

1067
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:43,000
of the hunt is then tasked where he goes hey uh he goes through all the companies and he goes

1068
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:48,760
you you you you you you're coming with me we're going for a hunt and they will track this guy

1069
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:53,880
down for hundreds of years if they have to cut off his head bring it back to chikoris put it

1070
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:59,160
on a spike outside their fortress monastery go job done strike it off the list have a big meal have

1071
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,960
a feast uh and then we'll go find another one i think that's really cool they cover the skull as

1072
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:10,120
well in silver yeah they like arm it with like this oily stuff i think it is so it's immortal

1073
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:15,160
i remember i always liked that part because it's i just imagine there's this pretty there's like

1074
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:20,440
skulls who have been there forever the path to their fortress monastery is lined with the skulls

1075
01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:23,880
of those they've killed from their scroll of vengeance i think that's pretty cool because

1076
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,520
they're pretty welcoming like that you know i mean yeah i don't know they're quite cool um and the

1077
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:34,680
thing is yeah uh korsaro is really good at it he's killed like seven of the scroll of vengeance uh

1078
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:40,680
like i mentioned earlier he killed that elf legion guy uh he's killed a few he uh he had a fight with

1079
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:48,360
um a necron uh what was he called the storm lord i think it is uh oh emotec yeah emotec i think it

1080
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:56,760
was um he didn't get him uh but he i believe he did blow up his uh flagship that was that hellbrecht

1081
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,160
who oh that's hellbreak sorry there is definitely a necron he got though i can't remember who it was

1082
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:08,680
ah i was thinking as well their scroll is kind of very similar to colin like you know the great book

1083
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:14,600
of grudges essentially where they very much are the same honor system of oh you like just you just

1084
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,200
gave me like you know i said hi and you just shrugged your shoulders that one time to live i

1085
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:25,240
remember that for a 10 millennia you will pay in gold or blood and the white scars don't seem to

1086
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:33,480
care about gold no they're very much uh just blood pretty much i know they um the necron i'm thinking

1087
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:38,760
of i can't remember his name but he has like a bodyguard and korsaro got captured alongside

1088
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:45,960
obron and then his buddy what's the the actual guy is it zandrik yeah simisword zander that's the one

1089
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,560
yeah he he like goes to get him and then he's captured and then he's like he's alongside an

1090
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:58,280
eldar and he helps the eldar escape and then they get like attacked they get ambushed by the necron

1091
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:04,600
and his bodyguard and korsaro like carves him up several times but he you know he just keeps you

1092
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:10,120
know resetting because necron are ridiculous and then the the necron guy is like you were really

1093
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:16,680
good at fighting you can go and he's like i'll get you one day um and also he's currently uh

1094
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:23,640
postponed his hunt for shadow son who was the most recent uh target to slay he went to the damocles

1095
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:29,880
campaign he tried to kill her several times he did pretty good but then jabal was like um we need you

1096
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:36,520
back home uh red core says yeah it's not going well um but he's like a really cool character and

1097
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,640
he's like the kind of figurehead uh poster boy for the white scars in the 41st millennium i hope we

1098
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:48,680
get to see him in the dawn of so the dawn of fire like 40k like ongoing like in domator's crusade

1099
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:54,840
series i hope we get to see a lot of these uh i guess neglected legion like because white scars

1100
01:25:54,840 --> 01:26:01,240
in the 40k setting they don't have as much of the vibrance and fleshing out as they do in 30k because

1101
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:08,840
the 30k characters are much more fleshed out than the 40k ones well speaking of which i'm just gonna

1102
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,000
i've got three more i want to mention then if you want to mention any how then go right ahead

1103
01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:19,160
i'm also going to mention jubal khan from the horus heresy not to be confused with

1104
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:26,360
jubal khan from the 41st um i love this guy he was known as the lord of summer lightning and he was

1105
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:32,360
one of the best dualists in the horus heresy so you think of sigismund you think of course

1106
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:38,360
swain from the dark angels you think of uh all these on you know khan you've you know

1107
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:44,520
brawler on from uh you know the blood angels jubal khan was like the best fighter in the white scars

1108
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:51,160
he was so good um he would have during the horus heresy he would attempt to kill abaddon

1109
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:59,640
and unfortunately even though he's a really cool character um abaddon got him he you know he

1110
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:04,840
yeah it's so annoying man it's really anti-climactic because they filled him up so much and then it's

1111
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:11,320
just like dead oh it's so upsetting because again like no people dying to abaddon is like

1112
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:16,600
is abaddon really that good or they just like need him to like just add him to the tally because he

1113
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:22,120
needs to look better he's also i think he's probably my favorite of the horus heresy white

1114
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:29,800
scars because he's also a terran he's not actually uh there's a cool part in jagatai's primoc book i

1115
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:35,320
think where they've like they briefly returned back to jagorish it's been like a couple of decades

1116
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,720
and they're having like a ceremony they're all like you know drinking fermented milk because

1117
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:46,360
you know how it be i think i think one of the one of the terrans even rubbish milk real shit

1118
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,120
one of the terrans even said like it actually tastes pretty bad

1119
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:58,440
but they like it and uh him jubal's like fighting another uh chogorin astarte and they're just in

1120
01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:03,160
the they're in a loin cloth and they have a dagger and it's like and they are literally they fight

1121
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:08,120
and they duel and they are they're astartes but they are sweating like they have been

1122
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,760
in this is going in a different direction

1123
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:17,800
they uh they fight until they are literally at the edge of exhaustion and jubal wins and it even

1124
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:22,680
says like he goes over to his friends he speaks perfect chogorin because he he's he's the example

1125
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:29,240
of what jagatai tried to do was like blend in the legion like the terrans and the um like he

1126
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,880
he doesn't join the uh there's no terran astartes there's no chogorin astartes there's just white

1127
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:39,960
white scars he's he's really cool and he's he's a if he's an art of him as well he's a very smiley

1128
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:45,560
guy he's he looks really happy he's also known as uh he who laughs in slaughter i think it is

1129
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:51,160
oh that's a little bit happy that's a little bit the different vibe than i think he was known as

1130
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:56,280
the one who like i think he was the one who like was most known for laughing his ass off when he

1131
01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,680
was fighting because he was just having so much fun and he was also the first master of the hunt

1132
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:06,840
so jagatai created the title for him and then every generation of white scars has a new master

1133
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:12,120
of the hunt um speaking of terran born uh startis another one i want to mention briefly is solman

1134
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:17,720
khan uh he's a bit of a small character but i think he's pretty cool he was a terran born white scar

1135
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:25,160
and he he was um i did a brief video on my channel for him he he did a a bit of battling

1136
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:32,200
and he fought alongside the sisters of silence and basically they all died and he collected some of

1137
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:36,440
their artifacts and gave them back to the sisters of silence when he got back to i think it's the

1138
01:29:36,440 --> 01:29:42,920
somnus citadel and they were so grateful to him for him to do this he had an honor guard of sisters

1139
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:48,600
of silence and his men so it's like oh here's this captain of the white scars also got an honor guard

1140
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:54,200
of sisters of silence that's pretty cool um just a little thing uh and the other one i want to mention

1141
01:29:54,200 --> 01:30:03,000
before uh of the last one i'll mention anyway is takutai yusugai um yes chief storm seer of the

1142
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:09,800
white scars this man was basically the advisor to jagatai in a lot of ways he was um you know he was

1143
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:15,960
the guy i mentioned earlier he was like helping the uh the the general lady to to assimilate into

1144
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:23,480
the the the culture of the white scars um he was there during the council of nikea and he wanted

1145
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:29,480
to uh you know preserve the librarians he uh aided revuel arvida the last son of prosper from the

1146
01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:35,800
thousand sons to getting him to holy terra where he would eventually become janus he did a lot he also

1147
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:43,960
when when the white scars were trying to get back to holy terra they couldn't get there because of

1148
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:49,240
warp storms and they discovered that there was this artifact known as the dark glass

1149
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:54,120
and this thing was basically the prototype golden throne and as we all know there's only a few

1150
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:59,800
people that can use the golden throne the emperor magnus the red and malcador used it for like a few

1151
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:04,120
minutes and he disintegrated because it just requires that much psychic power turn to cheeto

1152
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:10,760
dust i don't even know what cheetos are but i know that's a thing yeah snack poof but but basically

1153
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:17,080
what this device would allow would be for the white scars to transport their vessels their fleet

1154
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:24,760
their remaining battered fleet to holy terra so this guy sits on the dark glass throne and while

1155
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:30,200
you know he he basically powers it with his psychic abilities and whilst he's disintegrating he you

1156
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:36,600
know he says goodbye to the khan his you know the kargan jagat jagatai who is very upset about it

1157
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:41,400
but he's like it's the only way i can you know preserve my legion he also sends a message to

1158
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:46,760
uh revuel arvida like don't submit to the flesh change you know you got this go and you know

1159
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:51,560
preserve the honor of your legion and he disintegrates preserving you know his his

1160
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:56,600
chapter he's a really cool character that's only in a few books but he he leaves a big impact

1161
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:01,720
for the the white scars and just one of the the coolest characters i think in the series to be

1162
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:07,160
honest he was also jagatai's best friend as well yeah it's really it's really it's really a sad

1163
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:12,840
moment when he like i guess emulates but he's really he's really upsetting because jagatai like

1164
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:18,120
the first time he's like super cool and he's always in control but it's the first time where he like

1165
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:23,720
jagatai almost i guess almost like almost break down is a little whimper you better not do this

1166
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:29,000
and he's like no i have to do it because otherwise we're we're done so i'm gonna give him a life for

1167
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:33,240
this he's like you better not and he does and then he gets really upset um but yeah is there

1168
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:40,760
anyone else you wanted to mention hal oh oh yes uh i have two uh i have there's we said earlier

1169
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:47,160
we had a quote from shiban khan and he's also nicknamed is called i think i said a little bit

1170
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:53,400
about him earlier he's called tachsir because shiban was originally friends with torgan who

1171
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:59,960
was one of the terran borns who betrayed part of the orielogers he betrayed his friendship there

1172
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:07,960
and shiban actually led like a company to assault their brothers to stop like the uh when they were

1173
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:15,480
above prosper they tried to stop them forcing jagatai's hand uh into joining horus and shiban

1174
01:33:15,480 --> 01:33:19,720
is like he's not like super high up but he just like he gathered his men is like oh we're willing

1175
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:24,200
to do this and they're all like yeah you know victory of death and they literally like jet

1176
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:30,440
bike in space over to the flagship yeah yeah and it's really cool and like loads of them it's like

1177
01:33:30,440 --> 01:33:35,560
it's literally white scars killing each other it's really sad and then um that battle actually

1178
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,680
costs him like he almost gets put in a dreadnought that's and obviously dreadnoughts we said earlier

1179
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:48,520
for white scars it's fate worse than death and he's called tachsir because like he has an unreasonable

1180
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:54,920
amount of augmetics on his body and he can't even fight scar yeah and he can't fight with the same

1181
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:59,160
skill level until i think until he gets to terror when they can give him they give him like an

1182
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:05,000
upgrade but he's very much like he was like a very happy white scar like he dabbled in the arts

1183
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:10,680
before like like jagatai uh encouraged him to do but when they like as soon as he gets injured he's

1184
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:16,840
like one of the uh effects of the the heresy on the white scar he doesn't draw anymore and he's

1185
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:22,680
just very like a very bitter person but he uh and he fights with the seizure terror he's basically

1186
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:27,800
the last kind of so many of the white cars die that he's like one of the last leaders and obviously

1187
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:32,200
he's ironically tachsi he's like kind of a legend now because he's the one who helped save the khan

1188
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:38,840
from the traitors and yeah i think in the warhawk book there's like it's from his perspective a lot

1189
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:44,920
of the uh moments in that i will go to spoilers there and the last one i think of is i can't

1190
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:49,720
remember his name exactly but i think it might be jocchi or it might be something closer to that

1191
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:57,320
it's the other it's the other white scar character we have in the horus heresy uh warhawk book but

1192
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:04,120
he's um he's one of the newest recruits yeah is it jose jang so it might be jang so yeah but he's

1193
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:10,280
he's like a younger guy he's oh he's really young he's actually yeah he's this is he's recruited at

1194
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:16,280
the beginning of the heresy and like he he is fast like him and loads others were fast-tracked and

1195
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:22,280
he's not even from jagoris they're actually from they were in such need of soldiers that he's

1196
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:27,800
actually not he's from the asan sector i think they even comment at how not sure why jagatai

1197
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:33,720
has such a preference for having specifically asian people in his or only asian sector people in his

1198
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,600
legion so it sounds like i'm not sure why they did obviously because of the look of them

1199
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:43,400
thing is as well with his arts his art depictions he's he's a bit more like japanese inspired he

1200
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:48,600
looks japanese yeah yeah and like the way his hair's done and the the armor rather than mongolian but

1201
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:53,560
i think that's pretty cool though it's like yeah he's still a cool looking character he's a he's

1202
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:58,040
a cool one because like you follow some of his perspective in the sea and he's the one who like

1203
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:05,640
um tells uh shiban like basically they try and take the lion's gate spaceport like they just

1204
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,880
as like a and also get rid of the death guard as like a kind of last stand because once they basically

1205
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:15,720
take it and they hold up in there they can't return back to the actual uh main like palace

1206
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,320
area they're basically locked there and they're obviously trying to hold the spaceport so when the

1207
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:24,680
lawyers arrive they can land and they hold that and he's the one who like helps stop the white

1208
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,760
scars from going on a rampage and like leaving it and they basically say we'll hold this as like

1209
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:33,880
sacred ground and it's like he's like a really cool meeting like you know the newer generation

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of white scars and then the older with like uh shiban and he i don't know if he survives this

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scene i hope he does because i'm not there yet but he's a he's an easy in respect of like of an

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outsider but yet still like alien to what would be a terran like culture if you know i mean he's very

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he's definitely not like what imperium is imperials he's an outsider in that he's not from either of

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the two main factions of the white scars like terror or chagoras and it's like it's an outsider

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outsider for an outsider legion huh yeah okay but he's uh he's i think they're cool white scars

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yeah he's like the last one i think is pretty cool overall the legion itself is pretty uh

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again like now now you like once you know more about you're like oh these are actually like the

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i guess i won't say the dark horse but that's honestly because they're like they have a lot of

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imagery of like speed and horses they're actually they don't have as many characters as a lot of

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the other factions as well that are like named so i think the good thing is when they are when they

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do have some depth they are they hit pretty hard which is quite cool and the characters are pretty

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i think they're fleshed out to the degree like they show all aspects of jagatai too i think like

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toggen shiban uh tagatai yusuge like they're all very much very different people and uh they they

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so it's really i find it really sad because obviously they lose a lot of people during the

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siege uh a lot of the named characters which is actually different from a lot of legions like a

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lot of the named characters like even on isfahan like oh lot of them survive but a lot of the

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named characters of the white scar is just and they they go when it's really upsetting but i

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like the white scars though they're pretty they're well they're definitely like top three uh for me

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i never thought they would be but they're definitely up there now this artwork i found

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a jagatai i sent him in the chat it makes him look like kratos like is that is that just me

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looking at that like now i'm gonna think of jagatai is oh that's him versus the keeper of secrets

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yeah i i just with the pattern of the scar and how pale his skin is this photo i don't know

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if that's when he's um he's looking after his adopted son uh revue alavida yeah i don't i don't

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know if i'm gonna be able to unsee jagatai is anything but kratos now oh he has a he has a

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definitely he has a mean like he's not a mean street he has like an anchor like his he is

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there's a reason i have i've never talked a lot but i have to talk this one moment which is so good

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in one of the books it's the part where i don't remember the name of the character but one of the

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white scars dies during the great crusade and they're fighting orcs and jagatai they're fighting

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with the sons of horus and basically the character like falls into a lava pit and he like starts

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sinking like he starts to sink slowly jagatai stops fighting goes over to the edge and watches

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his friend like melt away and he just yells for everyone to get out the orcs stop fighting the

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white scars and the sons of horus also i think they're called um lunar wall sorry so they like

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leave and jagatai just starts like just very slowly picking up the paint and he starts to like

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just munt like munch the orcs down and it said like they're watching and one of the lunar walls

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like just goes yeah tries to join in and then like the white side grab him going no no no

1246
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and literally he says yeah they they say at the end of it also they said during it they actually

1247
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can't see him because he's moving that fast they even the start he's can't see him and he's just

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at the end of it he's like a basically a red painting because he is just covered in orc gore

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and uh i that has to be said that's as like a last kind of how epic the white scars are because that

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moment is awesome he's probably the best dad out of all the prime works he and adoptive dad he

1251
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gets every arvida and he stands over his like flesh-changing body and he fights the uh the the

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the picture that you just sent colin of the demon he's just like you're not you're not touching him

1253
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get away i don't think there's any other moments i can remember when a primarch is sad that their

1254
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space marines died but calling it sad and mad all the time about it or even when um arvida is being

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turned into janus and he's being imbued with a shard of magnus by malcador he's like getting

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consumed in like psychic fire and jagged eyes i i am ending this and he like breaks the machine

1257
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it's like you are not killing this you know he's come this far and uh yeah he's a very good he's

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a good dad he's a very good dad good dad's a good legion but otherwise i guess that's the white scars

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have you all enjoyed today's episode indeed thank you for allowing me to take the beginner section

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do you think you know like do you think that are they moved up in your list now colin uh i don't

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get i'd have to think about the more jagged eyes definitely moved up in my primarch list i'd

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probably put him at third now oh oh yeah uh number one i'll go up two is uh actually fulgrum

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i think his story is a choice at least in terms of narrative he's a very tragic person

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tragic person i better not hear magnus in the next five seconds magnus magnus has done many

1265
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things wrong i'm not falling for that my favorite is still gilliam and i uh i really i really like

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gilliam nice blue boys the smurfs i like yes but otherwise he's the best one i think jay

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getai is my favorite um all right thank you very much andy that's uh fair that's a lot to cover

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because obviously they're quite there's a lot more lore in them recently so we definitely appreciate

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that and uh for our next episode i think elai what was your choice for our next episode of the

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podcast oh the we're getting learned about the the true emperor it's not horace or abaddon

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or the emperor well it is the emperor but he has four arms or six depending on which cult you're

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into uh we're gonna talk about the gene stealer cults next yes that's gonna get dark and squirmy

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they're the most depressing faction i might say there's no happy ending for a jeans raise the star

1274
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:52,360
children raise the star children they have ascension is upon us ascension looks like bug

1275
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:59,320
monsters or unification with biomass i get my lovecraftian influence in i'm enjoying that

1276
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i can't wait i got the cortex and now that they're like my favorite faction ever

1277
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well prepared to be uh i must say something really like what's a way to describe like an alien

1278
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:17,480
getting in someone's body without being a bit sus uh uh uncomfortable just yeah let's just leave it

1279
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there just just go watch the uh the chess burster scene from alien and then a flood infection form

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inform yeah or prepare to get your chest bursted on the next episode ladies and gentlemen

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with a gc i almost forgot as well i think actually also if any of you are still

1282
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:43,720
hankering for more white scars content i think this by the time this episode is released the

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same day i'm doing a white scars video so just putting that out there as well

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i also did jagatai khan as well so shame is very good i had the part in it where they do the

1285
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i do strange things to your warriors so if you want to see jagatai drop the line

1286
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other than that uh thank you very much guys uh make sure to like please subscribe uh we need

1287
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our it's for our mental health i swear no i'm just just i'm joking uh i judge my i judge my

1288
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self-worth by how high the number goes please please sub you you just but let's be honest

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uh thank you thank you so much for watching uh gc the cults will be on next time and uh i hope

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you all enjoyed it i hope you enjoyed uh white scars jagatai and uh you know hopefully they're

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moved up in your lists like for many of us lot here and we'll see you all next time have a good

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one

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