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replicating potent and powerful technologies. I know there's the whole meme and the joke

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about the guards guys who found a slightly better knife and a big whoop you found a really

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The mechanicus, I just tell you like the idea of the mechanicus being happy that someone

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found a wife is just so stupid. Whoever finds the Hatsune Miku STC. No, oh no. What is this

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anime nonsense you're talking about? You know what? Ignorance is bliss. Hello everyone and

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welcome once more to lore crimes. Today we are once again moving forward in the Warhammer

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timeline. We have covered the rise and fall of the Eldari and now it is time for the birth

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of the Imperium. And I'm very excited for this one because now I can sit here naysaying

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in the corner instead of Andy doing it.

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The revenge has already begun.

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To be honest, you're gonna have a lot of that because the Eldar are more or less irrelevant

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from now on, you know, they're just kind of their sidelines.

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Oh, fine words.

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Look at how hard he's seething and it's not even a full minute.

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It will be fun, ladies and gentlemen.

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Should we just jump right in fellas?

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Let's jump straight in.

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So today it will be with Andy. He'll be leading us all in the beginner section. So I think

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take it away, Andy. Give the boys their lore.

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I see, I misread who was doing beginner.

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So I'm just gonna, with my section, I'm gonna basically just do like a brief overview of

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what we're gonna talk about, then a few points and then I'll pass it over to Hal to flesh

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things out of it. So what we're covering today spans from about 8000 BC to the 30th millennium,

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just about predating the Great Crusade as far as timeline is concerned. We're gonna

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cover a lot of stuff about the Emperor of mankind in particular, because he's very important

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at this stage as he always is because, you know, I love Big E. And I'll get this out

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the way at the start, there's probably going to be a lot of speculation in this episode,

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but we're going to mention when it is speculation. So we're not like, not kind of muddying the

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lore or the history so that people go, oh, they're talking about stuff that's not confirmed

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or whatever. We'll mention specifically when we're spitballing, when we're not sure. And

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this is going to go through everywhere from the kind of formation of humanity spanning

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the stars to the Dark Age of Technology, the Age of Strife, Men of Iron, Thunder Warriors,

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All the good stuff.

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All sorts of stuff. But to start with, let's just begin with the most important character

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in 40K, which is the Emperor of Mankind.

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He's not Gilliman.

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He's better than Gilliman. He is Gillie's daddy. He is, you know, Jimmy Space's daddy

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space. Daddy space. Daddy's daddy space. Oh, God. This is daddy space.

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I thought we just finished a Slamash video.

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Oh, no. Yeah. I would have gone. All right. Anyway, enough silliness. So who is the Emperor?

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The Emperor, we're going to go into the nitty gritty with how section, but to give you an

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overview of the Emperor, he is an extremely powerful Psyche in the 41st millennium, arguably

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one of the most powerful beings in existence. He's intimately connected to his powers to

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the warp. He is a figure from history that keeps coming up time and time again. This

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speculation, you could probably guess an actual person from our own history. And in the Warhammer

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timeline, that's probably been the Emperor once or twice. Like, it could have been that

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Julius Caesar was like an early version of the Emperor. Or, you know, do we have any

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ideas of who he could have been in the rise of humanity that we know from our history?

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Dame, Dame Judi Dench. 100%. 100%.

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Not really specific. I just like to imagine, like, I don't know why I imagined he was involved

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in the Manhattan Project. One of the one of those scientists, I feel like it's got to

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have been him.

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That's actually a good point. That's a really good. I never thought about that one.

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Well, this is the thing. He's probably been both at the foreground and the background

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of many events in history. So he would have led wars as a general. He would have developed

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scientific breakthroughs behind the scenes. He would have been advisors to world leaders.

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He would have been a king. He would have been, you know, every kind of, I would say, like,

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influential figure, and has given him a length of breadth of knowledge and experience beyond

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anyone else in humanity's history, or even most creatures in the galaxy. He's done it

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all. With his particular start, he began his ascent as the most powerful creature in humanity's

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history during the kind of coalescence of sentient life within the warp. So chaos kind

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of got bolstered with the start of humanity and its emotional ties to the immaterium.

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progressively stronger, it would also bolster the warp with it. This is also why the three

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main chaos gods that we do like more than the Elven one. They got corny boy, you got

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Nurgleboo and Cinchyface.

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Corn is the worst. I hate him.

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I love you, Corn.

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He's too blunt. He says, I like punching things.

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Yeah, that's all you need.

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There's no elegance. There's no style.

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Corn can't do a kick flip on his skateboard. Let's just say that.

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I don't know. I think Corn would be pretty sick on, you know.

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He'd break it in half. I think he'd break it in half and then like walk off all stroppy,

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like a teenager.

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skateboard. I'm going to have something with more mobility and eyes.

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Massive Sonic fan. As the chaos gods are doing their thing and they're growing in power,

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during the Middle Ages, the emperor is becoming more dominant in history. He actually fights

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a void dragon during the Middle Ages. It's believed he is kind of the physical manifestation

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of the legend of St. George who slew a dragon. Apparently he sealed this void dragon in Mars.

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I don't know how he did that because space travel wasn't a thing yet, but he did it somehow.

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He held his breath for a really long time.

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and how they see things as well because the void dragon is basically a katanjou. We'll

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go into that more later. Humanity then, after this point, with the emperor beating the dragon,

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he gets more powerful. Energy gets more and more advanced over time. You start to colonize

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the star system. They venture into the wider galaxy without faster than light travel at

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the moment, but they're colonizing the solar system and they're getting a bit further

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out. They start to encounter aliens. They cooperate with them because they're not jaded

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despises aliens. It's pretty sure it's why, Andy, maybe you can admit to hating the Eldar

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so much. It's because a little bit of Imperium bias, but at this time, that's very-

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They had their cake, they ate it, and then they started to do unseemly things with the

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cake. So, I'm very sympathetic to that.

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After 60 million years.

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Yeah, true. But still. Wild over. So, eventually, they start to develop Gellerfield technology

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so they can expand even further into the unknown of the galaxy. They develop STCs, which are

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standard template constructs, which are so incredibly useful that even during the 41st

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millennium, not just humanity, but every species is trying to get their hands on them because

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they're so useful at replicating potent and powerful technologies. I know there's the

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whole meme and the joke about the guards guys who found a slightly better knife, and big

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A wife.

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The mechanicus, I just- the idea of the mechanicus being happy that someone found a wife is just

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so stupid.

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Whoever finds the Hatsune Miku STC.

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No! Oh no!

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What is this anime nonsense you're talking about?

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You know what? Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance is bliss.

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Okay, okay. Yeah, so the STCs are doing well, the Gellerfields making them expand. The modern

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age of humanity sees unprecedented peace, prosperity, breakthroughs in architecture

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and art and technology, and it's the equivalent of human paradise. And it's at this point

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that humanity does a bit of a mistake and it goes, okay, well, we've already got all

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this going on, why don't we take the next logical step and develop AI? And then things

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go terribly wrong. Humanity creates them so well that the robots become sentient and start

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to rebel. Revolt is so extremely perilous for the safety of the galaxy that not only

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humanity wages war with them, but they actually band together with other Xenos species, including

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the orcs of all people, just to stop the AI from taking over because they are so powerful.

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Strange friends. Yeah. And that's why to this very day, a lot

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of people say, oh, the mechanical is weird. Oh, they have like all these lobotomized people

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and servitors. And it's like, because they hate, because the history of AI in humanity's

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history is so detrimental to its progress and prosperity, they are like, we're erring

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completely on the side of caution, never again, never again, never again, no more AI. And

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of course, you know, this war is so catastrophic with the war against man and machine. By the

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end of it, warp storms and destruction and calamity are all over the galaxy. It's completely

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destabilized, very fabric of reality that it's been the destruction left in its wake

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is absolutely terrible. And it's the first proper nail in the coffin, humanity's downward

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descent. Humanity, because they reject not just AI, but other technologies that are kind

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of close to that precipice, very quickly start to descend and regress into a less technologically

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sophisticated species. And in the case of a big empire across the stars, it completely

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breaks down and terror, the home world where we live, which we would call earth, becomes

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a barbaric state ruled by techno barbarians.

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My goodness, I think Colin will be Colin need to soak in and enjoy this moment as much as

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you can.

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I am

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Is this a LL Eldor boy here? Is this because it's going to get better after this? So you

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have to enjoy the misery.

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Short, short, what 15,000 years before they screwed themselves over. That's not quite

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hitting the record, are we?

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Well, these they didn't create necrons with their, you know, like massive human sacrificial

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pyre things.

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The Eldor didn't do that.

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The old ones are the real bad guys in 40k.

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I can settle on that.

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And it's this point where the emperor has been doing a lot of stuff. He's he's not,

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he hasn't been in charge of humanity up to this point. He's just been kind of involved.

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And it's at this point, he goes, right.

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We were doing so well. And look where we are now. I'm going to take the reins. I think

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I'm the only person who can write this ship. And he starts to see to the retaking of terror.

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custodians, the adeptus custodians that we all love, which are very painstakingly made.

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of the scale of most armies in Warhammer. And then he also made the thunder warriors

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who were designed just to retake terror. And these soldiers were given failsafe so they

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couldn't they were designed so that they could basically just brutalize anything they were

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pointed towards. And because they were so violent and unstable, the emperor basically

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made it so that they had like horrific cancers embedded in their genetic coding. So once

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they'd done their job, he could just go like, right, wipe my hands clean. We don't need

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them anymore. They're not going to be any use after all the slaughter. But nonetheless,

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he retakes terror, he unifies terror, he, he bands together all of his custodians. He

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also develops the adeptus astartes, which are the next generation of super soldiers.

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They slaughter the thunder warriors. And then he says, right, the new warriors, these adeptus

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astartes, they have to be capable of going out into the galaxy, no matter what the environmental

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or we're going to reef, we're going to find all our lost fragments of our empire, we're

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going to bind it back together with like, electric duct tape almost, bring everything

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back to the fold, and we will retake our place as the dominant species of the galaxy. And

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at this point, he launches the great crusade. And that's basically the overview of what

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we're talking about today.

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It seems like a very hostile work environment. That's the case in mind for the thunder warriors

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are probably like, go ahead, go ahead. Okay. And it made me think of like, the Emperor

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doing like a flex seal commercial.

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Oh, he slaps it on.

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It's like him in green screens in like the galaxy. I like that image. I like that.

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Slapping on the tape, like the cow, it seals this water spout. Oh my God.

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That'd be that's just like the neck runs when they're flexing, like we could close the eye

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of terror.

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Zap.

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Before we, before we move on to the next stage, do any of you two have any questions or things

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maybe that are lingering in your mind that you want to verbalize before we move on?

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Do you think that the orcs were still the crook when they were?

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Aligned with humanity?

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Or they're like halfway in between orc and crook at that point, so they're not completely

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crazy.

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I think maybe even Colin might be able to answer that as someone maybe a bit weird because

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we did the war in heaven episode. Shout out, please watch that before this episode. But

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maybe Colin might have a bit of a knowledge on that.

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If you'd like to throw it my way, sure. I can kind of give at least my best guess on

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the matter. I would say by this point, probably not because each of the crooks were at least

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in terms of physical might, probably not too far off from like Primarch stuff. And if there

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were any of those running around, I think Biggie would have had a lot harder time. I

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think just not even Biggie, I think humanity like before everything fell apart, would have

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had a lot harder time going around if there were still anything close to one of them rampaging.

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So I'm guessing by this point, they had, they had become orcs.

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They don't go on holiday.

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The crook went to bed and then they're drunken children, the orcs.

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Fair enough. Yeah. So with that said and done, we will now move on to the expert section.

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I think everyone is puckered up and ready for this injection of law because we've got,

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this is mostly too fair, humanity story, a few little touches of Xenos there, but Colin

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will have to sit through and endure this one. As we talk about the birth of the Imperium.

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So lean back and relax. So we begin at the start of our story with humanity. So humanity

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itself was created long ago by the old ones. It's implied that we were not necessarily

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as we are now as probably maybe a bit closer towards obviously our common ancestors like

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monkeys or something like that. But it's implied that obviously the old ones had a hand in

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our creation and humanity is sitting here on terror, just enjoying the sun, foraging,

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doing all your cool stuff, whatever you do on the weekends. And we sort of fast forward

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in time. We're not really that evolved, but we get to the point where we're about 8,000

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plus BC. And this is where we have some unique characters. These are the perpetuals and there

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are the perpetuals called Alanius person and Erda. It's not given a specific date of when

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they're exactly born, but it's implied that they are before 8,000 BC sort of time because

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we hit exactly, it's implied 8,000 BC. And this would be the birth of the man that would

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be known as the emperor of mankind. Everyone's cheering, fireworks are going off. Probably

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not at the time, but definitely now. They're just throwing like coloured rocks in the air

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or something like that. So the emperor story begins when he's born in a primitive proto

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Hittite village. Yes, even to that extent for those history people out there, along the banks

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of the Sakyar river in Anatolia. He was born to a very simplistic tribal life. The first time we

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actually ever see like an image of him within the Warhammer setting, which something he actually

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shows in a vision is a very like small primitive child and he's holding the skull of his dead

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father. So a bit of an intro, you know, I mean, if everyone's here watched WWE, it's a pretty

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metal way to be introduced into the story, shall we say. And the sort of first thing we see or

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first way we interact with the emperor was that he knows that his father has been, he's holding

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the skull of his father and he knows that his father has been murdered by his uncle. And perhaps

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a either conscious or unconscious decision. He gives his uncle a heart attack and his uncle

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essentially grabs his chest and he falls over. And this is obviously how it reveals that the

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emperor is obviously a little bit special. He has psychic ability. So he has some kind of magic,

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shall we say. You say in every four year old can't just do that at will. They might try it. When

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you're growing up, is there one you watch Star Wars and like you try and hold out your hand and

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pretend you have the force. I say as a child, I'm pretty sure we've all done it as adults.

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We can all confess to that every day. And so the emperor, he essentially is off his uncle,

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shall we say. And he immediately after this just leaves his village and he sort of roams across

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what would be today in the middle East. And he finds the first ever city of humanity in a little

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bit of a nod to people who like history. This is most likely ancient Sumeria of Mesopotamia. If

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anyone here is a big history fan, I know Colin might appreciate that little extra tidbit there.

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And I think this is a little bit of speculation here. So big disclaimer, this is where me and

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Andy think he may have discovered that he was a perpetual. And I think in my own head, that's

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probably because he didn't die of old age. I think at first when we were discussing the script for

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this, I was just like, oh, he fell down like a massive flight of stairs. And then he's like,

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oh, that's weird. I did see a, I saw a meme earlier to be fair, which was like,

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survives World War II, survives World War I. And it's like the stairs looking all aggressive.

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The stairs got him. We're not sure how he discovered he was a perpetual.

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And a perpetual is someone who is essentially immortal. They are ageless, or they stop aging

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after a while and they regenerate every time they die. So the emperor is essentially immortal.

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And this is a little bit later. So it's not implied exactly how long this took, but

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the emperor supposedly met the other perpetual, the older perpetual Erda, and she met a man who

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was going by the name of Neoth. I'm not sure if it's his, it's not even said if it's his actual

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name. There's no, there's actually a modern 40k plot about discovering the emperor's true name,

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which is in the Beckwin novels, but that might be more tied to his psychic power. But the emperor's

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real name is not really given, but at this time he's going by Neoth.

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Be remish if it was just called Keith.

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One thing, one thing before you go further, does this all confirm that the emperor was like,

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was born and not created by the, the old suicide pact? Shaman stuff.

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Yeah. It may have been that these shamans, the shaman theory about how it was thousands of

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psychers pouring their soul into one being, that being may still have been born. So it's not clear

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if that is still can, like not, I wouldn't say canon, but we're not sure. It reminds me of the

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origins of the Joker, where it's like, there's so many stories about how he turned into the Joker,

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but they're all like made up. Yeah. You're not quite knows the truth. So it'd be like

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either like an amalgam of them or none of them or. So yeah, so there's a little bit of maybe

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possibly it's again, a lot of Warhammer stuff. It's intentionally left mysterious, shall we say.

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I like the theory that Malkador found him in a box after someone made him in the dark age of

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technology. Or like flowing down a river or something. Yeah. It's just this weapon someone made him in.

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Isn't there like a mention of like, he's a weapon in the master of mankind book where

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Valdo is about to kill this woman. And she's like, yes, weapon out of the box from the old dark age

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of technology. And I'm like, it's minister zoo. He's one of the warlords on terror. She says he's

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just a weapon left out of his box. Although that may have been more of a just, she thinks he's an,

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it's like an insult rather than a, you know, she actually genuinely believes he was a weapon in a

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physical box. No, no, no, no, no mental box, baby. So, Erda, she's met this strange, I guess,

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so say strange. She's also a perpetual. So she's, they're both equally as weird as each other.

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So she beats the emperor and she agrees to become one of his sort of semi followers. And

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this is again, the emperor himself now has discovered someone who's also like him. And so

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he sort of roams the world and he seeks out other perpetuals to recruit to his cause. And this is

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obviously many thousands of years in BC. So it's just, you know, he's not obviously he's walking

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everywhere. So it's not happening fast, but he's often a, it's sort of a background mission that

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he's on. And at some point in recorded history, the emperor, it stated that he became a king.

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He even organized his own armies. And then he also met the perpetual Alanias Pius, sorry,

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Alanias person, excuse me. And Alanias person became his warmaster, even though I think Alanias

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is probably older than the emperor, but maybe the emperor is just so, you know, Chad that he was

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like, Oh dude, I didn't know you were tight like that. And it's like, they dabbed up and he was

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like, yeah, I have to say that's not canon. That is again, speculation. So they kind of, they,

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they have a sort of, as there are immortals, they sort of seek to protect humanity and they want to

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guide it. They are friends at this time. And as they're leading their armies, these two friends

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besiege a tower in Eastern Phoenicia built by a cult that would be known as the cogitate. Yes.

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Yeah. It is very, again, very mysterious. It's kind of, I don't know, I'm not sure how they know

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this, but again, it's like little echoes we have in the Warhammer history. After their forces succeed

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in capturing this tower, they discovered something called Inusia. And this is a kind of very strange,

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like ancient language that seems to have an effect on the Warhammer setting. And it starts to bleed

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corruption and power from the warp. So it's obviously very much tied to that kind of

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realm of madness, shall we say. Elanius is like, bro, this is terrible. And he demands that they

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just destroy this tower because obviously it's corrupt. Meanwhile, the emperor,

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he kind of disagrees and he wants to preserve the knowledge it's held. And the reason he does this

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because he thinks it's a better way to protect against this corruption is to understand it as

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much as he can. Elanius did not agree. So he became disillusioned with the emperor. He actually

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stabbed the emperor with a dagger and then he uttered one of the lines of Inusia. So there's

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like a power language and he actually destroyed the tower and ran off essentially. Did a foos

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ro dah basically. Pretty much. So Elanius kind of backstabbed, you know, mate, I trust in you,

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you know, I'm happy to follow you. And that one decision, maybe not, you know, quick shank and

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he left. So that's... I love Elanius. Elanius is just, he's in and out essentially. He's in and out

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of the story. And we sort of, time keeps progressing. So humanity itself, we are evolving.

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We next find ourselves in the middle ages. So this is very much unfortunate for us because this is

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when the first chaos gods are born. Some of the seeds may have been planted much earlier in the

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timeline, but this is when they become into a full conscious state. And this is known in the

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mirror dimension as, well, we call it the warp. So the warp itself is just like a, if you are new

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to Warhammer, just a brief thing about the warp, it's essentially a mirror dimension where all of

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our like sentient thoughts, like every, even, you know, good or bad, any kind of feeling, it all

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ripples within there sort of creating, I guess, either, you know, good things and bad things,

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you know, demons and angels, all that kind of stuff, essentially. It doesn't, it annoyingly

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does not adhere to any of these strict laws of physics. So that's obviously, is very much a

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storied writing tool, but there's also parts where it's like time makes no sense there too. So like,

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oh, we could do anything we want, but, you know, I mean, it's like, surely that, you know, it is,

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there's trouble with it, but it makes, it has no reason to adhere to our human understanding,

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shall we say. And I'll pass over to Andy quickly to talk about what the Emperor did next in his

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great journey. So basically, this is the bit I mentioned earlier about how the Emperor fought

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a dragon. Now, I said earlier that it's implied that he might be a fragment of the K'tar known as

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Maglodroth the Void Dragon. I should say this isn't explicitly stated anywhere. It's more

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kind of assumed with what we know of him and like little references from other bits of like

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lore here and there. But basically, he fought this void, what I believe it's just called the

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Void Dragon or the dragon, a dragon that he fights, and he seals it inside of Mars,

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in what is called the Noctis Labyrinth. No idea how he did it really. I mean,

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it's the whole fact that at this point, there isn't really space travel yet. So I guess he

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just yeeted him into Mars or something, or he teleported or did some kind of warp trickery,

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who knows. Big jump.

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It is Maglodroth the Void Dragon. He's the most powerful K'tarn. So if it is a fragment of him,

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that's pretty impressive that he was like, I'm not just going to fight a K'tarn shard. I'm going to

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best the most powerful one, or a bit of the most powerful K'tarn. So that's pretty cool.

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We had a slight theory, by the way, that it was actually Elon Musk that took the Emperor all the

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way to Mars, because obviously, you know, he's got a ticket there. But this happens during the

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middle aged period. So fortunately, Elon Musk is something like that, maybe.

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That's what they didn't tell us about the Tesla launch into space.

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And it's still alive today in the 41st millennium. It is watched over by the Guardians of the Dragon

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on Mars. And pretty much all the information that the Imperium knows about it is derived from the

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Guardians, because they share the memories of the creature. Again, they don't really get out much,

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because they're looking after this big K'tarn thing in the core of Mars. So yeah, but you know,

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and the Emperor, I believe when he bests the Dragon, he also gets like a kind of power buff

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almost. He's like, oh, I'm so good. Look at me. I beat a dragon. A very sexy moment. Thank you

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very much there, Andy. And so this was, this is the kind of the Emperor's like big moment, I guess,

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in his, I say early history, he's probably like 15, he's a couple of thousand years old, so he's

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not exactly young. His stables definitely come through. So crazy how the Emperor had the

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struggle to take down a shard, but Cain beat a full one. Yeah, he's got it in. He's got it in.

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They could be fighting. They'll be fighting. They'll be fighting into a different planet.

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There'll be more fights to come, boys. Don't worry. Don't worry. So I'm just saying, you know,

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Cain gets whupped by regular, regular Astartes quite regularly. That's kind of sad though,

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isn't it? That makes me sad. Knowing his games workshop needs this character to look powerful

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today. Very much so. So for the Emperor's done is like his big, let's just say he's gone super

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Saiyan. He's done his big move. He's sent the dragon into Mars. And now we kind of focus a

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little bit more on humanity as a whole itself. So humanity is kind of alone on Terra at this time.

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We very much start to sort of begin to populate and terraform the solar system itself. So we've

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moved a little bit further along in the technological side of things, shall we say. So a little bit

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a smarter in general. And eventually we were slowly like building again, it takes thousands

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of years. So this is when we get to about the fourth millennium. And this is the kind of first

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time that humanity in general is like aware of the warp, as in they like, oh, that, you know,

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ping light bulb. What's that thing? Yeah, what's that? Oh, that's terrifying. So this kind of,

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it's the first time we've interacted with the warp and it becomes like in general aware of it.

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The actual man, Neoth, or the man who had one day become the Emperor, he very much sort of,

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he's beat the dragon, he slips kind of more into the background picture of humanity. It might be

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like, I think in my own head, speculation, the warning here, I think it might be that he gets

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overshown by a lot of other things. I think obviously, like in the 41st millennium, the

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Emperor is a relic of a different age when all these great things are made. And I think this is

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the time where he doesn't see, hasn't necessarily, he's not a genius yet, because he hasn't gone

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through all the discoveries because they're happening right now. So he's a bit more of a,

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oh, I'm learning, you could say at this stage. Although I suppose if at this point, he's also

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still of the mind of, oh, we shouldn't be believing in superstition. If they've literally turned him

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into a parable of St. George killing the dragon, he's probably like, okay, I need to like step back

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for a minute. They're starting to, they're getting ideas in their heads. I'm just going to like Loki,

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killing a dragon was fun, but you know, don't look at me yet. Don't look at me. I'm a bit shy.

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Mason- Yeah, I don't know why I put that there. I thought it'd be fun to ask you guys if you had any

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people in the history, I think we asked it earlier, but I think Colin said in a different video,

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you thought Julius Caesar, and even I think we said it earlier in this one as well, we kind of

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have a hint that, because a lot of that symbology of Warhammer, like the Imperial Eagle, obviously

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it might be taken from, you know, might have nicked it from somewhere else. I wonder if anyone had

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any different ideas about different people you could have been, possibly.

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Colin- I think you can call him a lot of the big conquerors, the really successful commanders and

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stuff like that. He goes against everything he believes in, but he could have been like an Odin

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slash Jesus figure. And then it's like, I don't know what he tried to preach was taken differently

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or something, but. Mason- I never thought of him being Odin. That would be quite cool.

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Colin- I mean, Jesus have many parallels.

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Mason- Yeah. Go ahead.

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Colin- I say, I have heard that, at least this was not confirmed, I've just heard someone suggest

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that he might have been a follower of Jesus, in which case he's a great, he shows, jumping ahead

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a bit, shows what happens when you try and play God and do better at it than his own game. Though

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perhaps I'm jumping a bit too far ahead of the time. Mason- I don't know which one we would

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speculate. Colin- I just like the idea of like Jesus being like, hey, look, I turned water into wine.

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The Emperor's like, Pfft, Baggin, eat it mate. Mason- Well, which of the followers was he in the

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end? That'll be a bit, you know, it could get really spicy. We probably shouldn't go there.

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Colin- Jesus, okay, yeah, sure. Mason- I don't know if we should speculate too hard.

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Colin- Probably more of a Judas figure. Mason- Yeah, you said it, you said it.

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So moving on from Jesus, you know, the lighthearted topic that that is.

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Colin- And it's getting angry. Mason- They're already typing. So humanity now is,

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we're pretty much, you know, we're on the train and it's moving. So humanity, we start to reach

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the 15th millennium and our technological understanding reaches its zenith. So everything

399
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:44,640
at this time period is awesome. So people will even live longer. Life is pretty peaceful.

400
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,080
It's kind of like, I always thought of it a bit like, you know, how some Star Trek stuff is,

401
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,720
where it's like, it's a time of exploration and discovery. Like humanity is really curious about

402
00:37:54,720 --> 00:38:00,560
what's going on in the stars. You know, like, I think, you know, the curiosity of like looking

403
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:06,560
up in the night sky is very much a driving force. We're not really jaded yet, but that will be

404
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:13,760
coming. So hopefully everyone's excited about that part. So many of the technologies that are like

405
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:21,040
really sought after in the 41st millennium, they are created during this kind of millennia spanning,

406
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,560
like golden age. So we have things like a Terminator pattern armour. We have,

407
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,400
we'll say starting off that small, you'll see why. We go all the way to Titans, which if you're new

408
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:42,240
to Warhammer, they are the enormous, like clunky robots with, I guess, guns the size of cathedrals

409
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:48,160
on each arm. Walking cathedral towers with guns. I think, yeah, they're pretty, they're chunk,

410
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:57,760
shall we say they're pretty chunky. Oh boy, they're thick. That is a sentence you don't

411
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:04,000
think you'd ever hear in your life, but it makes sense. Humanity even gets to the point where

412
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:11,920
time travel is possible. There's a short story, I think, about a ship that time travels. In Warhammer

413
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,440
there's an interesting part where the time travel ship meets like the modern 40k time around it,

414
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:23,680
just basically calls all the humans like scum. It is hilarious. And there's also something I think

415
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:29,840
is my favourite is black hole guns, which is like things that are hiding inside some of the

416
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:38,320
mechanicus equipment. There's like even a mechanicus ship that can phase an object in time. So basically

417
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,560
it creates like a double of itself and it's on top of itself and it basically just implodes.

418
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:49,440
It's a bit crazy. I don't know if anyone here wants to speculate about what other pieces of

419
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:55,360
technology you think might have come from this era. I think to be honest, titans might be

420
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,560
probably my favourite just because I think I'm not exactly sure what it was originally a titan, but

421
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,000
maybe the idea of it being like a ploughing machine or something, you know how like knights,

422
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:10,720
like I think we almost, we're not sure if it's cannons. A little bit of speculation here, like

423
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:16,800
Terminator armour is somewhere in old lore might've been like diving equipment possibly.

424
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:23,600
We're not sure if that's cannon. I say again, yeah, this is kind of speculation, but I think that

425
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,600
I read that it's the basis for Terminator armour is taken off of what like construction equipment

426
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:35,440
people would wear. They essentially just kind of revised it so the black carapace would work with it.

427
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:42,240
I mean, yeah, so it's pretty, I mean like ludicrous. We're not really sure what's going on,

428
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:48,720
but essentially the gist is humanity makes some really dope stuff. Like it makes them like the

429
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:52,960
cooler, you know, and they make the air pods. You know those little things that were popular a couple

430
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,800
years ago, like you spin, all those things like the little three claw. They made fidget spinners

431
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,640
that can fly. I don't know. They made a George Foreman toastie where if you overpack it with

432
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,760
too much cheese, it doesn't like come out the side. It's like that's what it's all about.

433
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:15,280
It comes out your nose. I'm surprised I haven't seen a meme where Jane czar has a fidget spinner.

434
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,880
I just thought of that now. Like tricycle weapon. Yeah, the little throwing thing there,

435
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,720
whatever that is. Yeah, I do have a ride on a tricycle what you just said there.

436
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,640
Well, you know, that you know, that they call something like a tricycle, it's a similar name.

437
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:36,000
When you say that I think of the little kid in the Incredibles. And he's like, you know, the

438
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Mr. Incredible lifts up the car and the little kids on the little tricycle, but it's actually

439
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:46,080
Jane czar. She's got daggers like that's what I'm thinking of in my head. And it's Mr. Incredible's

440
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:51,040
the emperor. She's like, I'm waiting for you to do something cool. I don't know something amazing.

441
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,880
So yeah, humanity makes some, like, you know, some really cool stuff. And we're essentially,

442
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,720
you know, as terrorists, the homeworld, we're sort of blooming our way across the stars, we are very

443
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:12,160
much colonising everything that can be colonised, shall we say reasonably. So we're on humanity is

444
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,960
definitely spreading out. So people are not born necessarily within the solar system anymore. And

445
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:23,680
this is where we first encounter many of the lovely Xenos races such as Orcs, the Eldari, and

446
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:31,280
probably at this time, numerous other minor Xenos that okay, we did definitely the Jiquero as well.

447
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:38,400
Monkeys, the monkey men have returned, they are here. Why do they look like I have eaten the last

448
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:45,120
ice cream? I don't know why they look at me like that. They make me nervous. So they've they've

449
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:50,480
definitely, you know, we're on the block if you know what I mean, humanity is out there. And again,

450
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:56,640
the tone is more curious, we're not the 41st, you know, millennium, the grim dark future isn't there

451
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:03,840
yet. So it's much more chill. Although, I think we have speculated that the Orcs probably weren't

452
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,160
chill, you know, they weren't chill, they weren't chill like that. So we probably didn't hang out

453
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:13,680
with them. And you're a black hole gun. So they're like, you want to attack and it's like, flump,

454
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,560
I, they probably didn't enjoy fighting humans at the time, because there's no, you know,

455
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,880
charging into a, basically a wall of guns with, you know, melee weapons, essentially,

456
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:32,800
this hasn't happened yet. So at the height of this time, it's basically humanity's golden age,

457
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:40,720
we are almost in a way, unchallenged in technology and science. The Emperor, unfortunately,

458
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,480
he's not really doing much, but him and other perpetuals he's discovered over the years,

459
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,280
they sort of, they've created like a cult, shall we say, I don't know, they don't necessarily

460
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,920
exclusive club. Yeah, pretty much like, you know,

461
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,320
can you join the cause like, Oh, what do I have to do? And they just like stab you in the chest

462
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,760
and then you're like, how? Oh, yeah, he's fine. Yeah, let him in.

463
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,800
If you don't come back, he's lying. So they very much have like, you know, they got their click

464
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:13,440
together. And these, this culture perpetuals, they sort of suit up for a mission that only

465
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:21,440
perpetuals can do. And they reach a world called Moloch. And this world is really important within

466
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:28,720
Warhammer. And the reason why Neoth or the Emperor, the man who had one day become the Emperor,

467
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,040
he only had perpetuals with him was because they were traveling in a ship that was not faster than

468
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:41,600
light travel. So it had to be crewed by essentially immortal people that wouldn't be able to travel.

469
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:48,320
Essentially immortal people that wouldn't die of old age. And as they've reached this kind of very

470
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:55,200
strange world of Moloch, I'll pass it over to Andy to tell you what exactly went down on this

471
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:02,560
strange place. Well, this is this is the what you could call the ascendance of the Emperor's might

472
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:09,760
where he he he basically enters a warp gate. And he's in there for a few moments. And then when

473
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:17,200
he comes out, his psychic powers have just been like, pranked up to, you know, 115 out of 10.

474
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:23,120
He's essentially got, you know, he's like the most powerful being inhumanity in like,

475
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:30,400
snap of a finger. And when he's in the the warp gate, and he goes into the immaterium place,

476
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,960
I suppose you'd call it. He also gets like a kind of a lore dump of like, something incredibly,

477
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:43,200
really important and very difficult to digest information. Let's put it that way. I imagine

478
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,360
if you were like, watch every one of our channels, all the videos in half a second, and you

479
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,320
divulged all the information, but you also knew like everything we'd ever done in our lives.

480
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,960
And you know, the postcodes of everywhere in I don't know, Mozambique,

481
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,000
all this information. Where did all this information come? I don't know. It's a bit

482
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:09,360
much. It's a bit much. It's a bit much. And for some reason, when no one knows what he actually

483
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:15,840
saw in there, but it changed him completely. Like his personality just dropped off a cliff

484
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,000
to the point where Erda, the perpetual even comments about how the emperor used to have a

485
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,760
sense of sense of humor. And now he doesn't laugh anymore. He's just very stern, very stoic, very

486
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,760
funny. And it's like, it's like such an incredible shift in his personality,

487
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,120
to which we could probably speculate that that's the moment where he started to

488
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,920
give less of a care for humanity in some regards, because he lost a lot of his human traits.

489
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:52,160
So I think it's quite a, I like the fact that Erda, when we do meet Erda in the Warhammer books,

490
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:58,240
I'll, it's so like hilarious to me that she actually says the emperor was really funny

491
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:04,000
before. Cause you have to imagine like, is his sense of humor like really outdated and it's

492
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,520
something that only the perpetuals get. Do they make only like, I don't know what happened in like,

493
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,080
you know. Are you inferring that the comedy, the comedy stylings of the emperor were not woke?

494
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Is that what you mean? It's more slap, is it like slapstick? Do I, like, you know,

495
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,760
do you know what I mean? Like falls over like, oh, I tripped and he's just, or does he make like,

496
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,360
you know, stepped, you know, step brother jokes? I don't know what he does, but I think the idea

497
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:33,760
of him being like his humor being old to me, at least hilarious. I think it was president

498
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Truman that had like this audit or this aquatic car that could drive into lakes.

499
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:46,880
And he would sometimes pretend that he was losing control of his car and just dive into a lake.

500
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,880
I like to imagine like the emperor would just do that regularly. I lose control like that.

501
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:00,080
Oh my God. Yeah. So he very much. So, you know, all that, all his funny,

502
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,120
let's say his funny bone was removed as soon as he entered this massive warp rift gate.

503
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:10,320
Rift gate. And, you know, he didn't, he didn't come out the same. Let's just say that. And

504
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:17,840
he kind of, after this, we return a little bit towards the species entirely. So humanity again,

505
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:23,120
we're sort of, you know, we're trudging along. We sort of reached to the 22nd millennium. And

506
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:29,760
this is where the STC is the standard template construct. Many of us who, we all run law channels,

507
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:36,960
I'm pretty sure this is like a, oh, this is a massive moment within the law because the STC

508
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:44,800
is an incredibly complex piece of technology. And it's kind of unique thing is that it contains

509
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:52,320
thousands upon thousands of blueprints. And the reason why it's so useful is because

510
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:59,520
anyone who owns an STC can simply just input resources into the standard template construct.

511
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:06,320
And then the STC will manufacture whatever you desire, as long as you have, so, you know,

512
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,080
you put, it's literally like, I guess, video games in a way. So you put in like, you know, iron,

513
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,120
wood, and it's like, oh, here you go. Here's plasma gun.

514
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,760
I love the idea of like just having a massive funnel and you just like put in like iron or

515
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,040
ore, like gun powder and just like, I want to make a bolt out of it. Just cramming it in this big funnel

516
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:29,200
coming out the other side, like a sausage. I imagine that there's probably some very

517
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,560
cursed stuff as well. Like, you know, oh, I don't know if they had like a standard like

518
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:41,040
blueprint for, let's say, anime body pillow, but they had, but let's just say they had,

519
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:51,440
they had, they had, go ahead. So they essentially have everything a colony would need is,

520
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:59,360
is contained within like these kind of like core devices. So they are extremely important and

521
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:05,040
incredible. I mean, if we owned one like humanity now, which is basically be unstoppable and each,

522
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:11,680
and each colony has essentially one of these. So it's a, it's a massive boon for humanity across

523
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:18,320
the stars. So as we progress a little bit further, we are, it's not actually an empire of humanity,

524
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,520
but it's a federation. So it's a collection of many different groups, but humanity itself,

525
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,640
maybe there was like some civil strife, but it's not mentioned, but it's definitely not

526
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:36,400
ruled in the same way that the 40th millennium is under one person. And with our utter mastery

527
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:45,520
of technology in this golden age, we made a bad choice and we decided we will develop AI in tandem

528
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:51,360
with this, you know, incredible technology. So we kind of, yes, these were going so well. So you're

529
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:56,160
like, right, what could go wrong? This is great. Surely whatever else we make will be great for,

530
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:01,920
yeah, we're not sure why, you know, what could go wrong is the famous last words for many people.

531
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:10,000
So back in the early 20th millennium, there were kind of the earliest versions of these AI

532
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:16,000
devices called the men of stone. And they were like the first kind of foray into AI. They are,

533
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:22,240
they are inferred to be sort of more machines and tools for like kind of everyday human needs.

534
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:28,560
They're like assisting ones, but these men of stone eventually will create and were the first

535
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:35,120
iteration of what would be known as the men of iron. And unfortunately, as a reference here,

536
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,760
they're pretty much, if anyone here, they're basically terminators. We're not going to,

537
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,680
you know, even though there are necrons in Warhammer, it's basically terminators. We've

538
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,880
also thought it was really important to let you guys know we made a good reference here of,

539
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:54,720
come with me if you want to live. And then we also have, because it makes sense, you know,

540
00:51:54,720 --> 00:52:00,640
get to the chopper. Because Arnie is here. Unfortunately, Arnie is not in this age, but

541
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:07,840
we're essentially, we made terminators. I'm pretty sure everyone has to like scrub their brain from

542
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,360
what they just heard there. Unfortunately, those movies did not exist in the Warhammer timeline.

543
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,720
Otherwise people would have known better. Well, they might have, but it's like, it

544
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:21,040
may became like full circle and then like the robots are the main characters and then like the

545
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:33,600
humans. So essentially, yeah, we done goofed it, the official term, and we made AI. And of course,

546
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:40,720
the men of iron are essentially, within the Warhammer verse itself, they are actually sentient.

547
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:46,240
So they have their own thoughts and their own feelings. This is a part where it gets difficult

548
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:53,840
to say, would you define them as alive? Because again, that's, I guess, the Alan Turing test,

549
00:52:53,840 --> 00:53:00,240
isn't it? This is a bit of a tricky thing. We're not really sure. But in the Warhammer universe,

550
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:06,960
they are very much sentient beings. And of course, when you have sentience, you have problems. So

551
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,480
if anyone wants to put on a t-shirt, by the way, they're welcome to use that quote,

552
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:19,360
you know, sentience equals problems. And so the men of gold, they refer to, which is humans. So

553
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:28,560
the masters, we were the creators. They decide we're not good masters anymore. So they revolt.

554
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:35,840
And this is called the cybernetic revolt. And it literally, because it's AI, obviously machines are

555
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,680
usually connected to each other, you know, particularly our internet as well. You know,

556
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,800
we're obviously four different people connected over, you know, different places. So, you know,

557
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,560
if we, if we woke up tomorrow and all of our like iPhones or smartphones weren't working,

558
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,840
like ever again, just be over. Like, no, what's the point?

559
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,080
And that's now pretty much. Yeah. So everyone, everyone can access TikTok anymore. It was a very

560
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:10,000
sad day. So, so this literally explodes across the federation of mankind, like almost probably

561
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:17,200
within an instant, or how it depends how quick the, you know, the internet speeds are in his realm.

562
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:27,840
And the, this war is Titanic is on every single human world. And it was so dangerous, shall we

563
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:35,040
say that this is where the Xenos, such as the orcs and also our Giga chads, the Eldari,

564
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:43,040
I think Colin might want to enjoy this. Yeah. So the Eldari actually ally with humanity,

565
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:49,200
surprisingly the orcs do. I think it might, I speculate that it may be humanity where,

566
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:55,040
yo, there's an enemy that you could crunk. Really? No, you could crunk that guy and it'd be really

567
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,200
fun. And they probably went, yeah, that sounds fun. So, oh, we've never fought them before.

568
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,520
Cracks knuckles. They just pointed them in that direction. Hey, orcs, big guy.

569
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,680
That's all they need to do. Orcs smash. And they went, and then they ran.

570
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:18,080
I guess I just think the idea of orcs that they have diplomacy at the time is still utterly

571
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,760
hilarious, but apparently they did. So the orcs, you know, they, they're like, you know, we're in

572
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:31,760
essentially, and this war, as positive as I've made it sound, this war is awful. So this war is so bad,

573
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:40,960
it literally scars humanity to this day. And AI, so artificial intelligence is banned. It's not

574
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:46,720
allowed because again, it's literally the worst thing that apparently is the worst thing that ever

575
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:53,680
happened to us. And it's rebranded, so rebranded to abominable intelligence. A little bit dicey, a

576
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:59,600
little bit heavy on that. And we were having a discussion though, we weren't sure what scale

577
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,360
it would be in comparison to like the Horus heresy, because I was like, I understand that the, the,

578
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:10,720
the references, it's so bad, it literally kind of opened the door for the warp to cause a bit more

579
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:17,360
mischief and it ruined humanity's progress and stuff. But I'm also like, well, Horus heresy was

580
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:23,040
pretty bad as well. And it, you know, it, it, again, it, it put like the last nail in the coffin for

581
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:28,400
humanity in a lot of ways. So I was, we were having a, we weren't quite sure how it stacked up to it.

582
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,440
We were wondering if you guys maybe thought it might have been worse in the heresy. What do you

583
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:41,600
guys think? I think it was probably worse just because everyone helped to stop it. Whereas

584
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,400
the other races, well, I mean, Horus heresy was a different time, I guess. No one wants to help the

585
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:52,640
humans after the great crusade. Yeah. I can't imagine that made them friends. Yeah. It does

586
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:58,400
seem worse though. It does seem more on like a galactic, like the full galaxy had to be involved,

587
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:05,120
not just the humans. And it was our fault as well. So, you know, we can't, who do we blame but

588
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:13,760
ourselves? And so humanity is just, you know, AI is essentially gone and we have to learn to evolve

589
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,920
to not use it. So this is where we get the disgusting kind of grim dark meshing of human

590
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:25,040
and machine. So servitors, I think everyone, maybe if you guys remember like when you first

591
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,280
get into Warhammer, do you remember seeing like servitors or hearing about them? You kind of go,

592
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:36,560
that is awful. I think I just remember the cherubs being like, what is that? Yeah. Yeah. That was

593
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,240
it's shocking. Isn't it? They're so great for Warhammer setting though. They make it so yeah.

594
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,680
Cherubs. Oh, they're great. Yeah. Eli has got some strange tendencies.

595
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,840
I'm all about the grim dark of Warhammer. It's awesome. You remind me of like,

596
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,320
this is going to be the reference of like, no one will get this, but it was like, you know,

597
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,720
they make parodies of films, like a scary movie or something like that. But there's one where they

598
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,880
had like Alvin and the Chipmunks in it. And there's a reference, I don't know what film it's meant to

599
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,800
be a parody of, but the Alvin and the Chipmunks are really cute, but they also say like really awful

600
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,680
stuff. And that reminds me a little bit because because they're like, oh, they're so nice. They're

601
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,400
like, we're going to rev up your spine. And it's like, oh no. But when you look at a servitor,

602
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,200
you just like, it's the perfect embodiment of what Warhammer is. That's true. Yeah, true.

603
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:35,040
Like sanctity of life. What? No, thank you. Yeah. It's a, it's just a nice little reminder of a

604
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:41,280
Warhammer is when the art and stuff nowadays is kind of losing grip of. It's a little bit more

605
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:47,200
clean. Yeah. It's got like a weird mix of, it's not cyberpunk, but it's got like, it's obviously

606
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,560
more advanced than our technology, but it's also kind of barbaric in its implementation. It's got

607
00:58:52,560 --> 00:59:00,960
that nice aesthetic to it. Dehumanizing feeling to it. Well, speaking of dehumanizing, we move on to

608
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:08,400
the next stage in Humanity's story. So Humanity essentially survives the war. You know, we did it,

609
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,360
we made it through, but we're not really the same. And this is where we kind of reached to the

610
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:19,840
24th millennium. And this is where a figure who would one day be called Malkador the Sigillite

611
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:26,240
is born. Yeah, that's my boy. Yeah. I think I put in this notes that it's important to stress.

612
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He only got a short millennium. Malkador is also speculated to be a perpetual. And he's a very

613
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:40,400
important character in the birth of the Imperium, as we will see later. But he basically, Malkador

614
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:46,160
arrives, Humanity's just survived like the worst war it ever gets. And then he basically has a

615
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:53,840
millennia to enjoy this time. And then it's about to get worse. So he doesn't really get a good

616
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,760
deal, if you know what I mean. Whereas the Emperor who's still around, he's still in the background of

617
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,560
what's been going on. Obviously he saw the cool stuff. You know, he got to see

618
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:10,240
the Warhammer world when it was mentioned. So the Emperor was around. And so this is,

619
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:15,760
unfortunately, we get to the end of the 24th millennium, and we've reached the 25th millennium

620
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:23,680
era. And this is where, I'm so sorry, Colin, but due to the decadence of the Eldari, a storm in the

621
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:35,920
warp was brewing. Would you like to, just for a brief explanation about how, if you could give

622
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:41,920
a quick summary, Colin, about how tragic you feel about how much the Eldari have fallen, just to

623
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:48,480
really give it some oomph for the listener. 20 out of 10, very tragic. Falling from

624
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,240
from unchallenged, unrivaled dominance to not that.

625
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,800
Not having that.

626
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:04,720
It's, yeah, it's credibly, it's bad news, let's just say. So we put in brackets, by the way,

627
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:10,320
a storm was brewing. You're a wizard, Harry, because, you know, a storm was brewing. And

628
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,280
Hagrid was, I don't know why I put this there, but I think I remembered it later. But yeah,

629
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,520
I think a storm was brewing. It's like, you're a wizard, Harry, because it reminded of Hagrid's

630
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:26,160
voice. So imagine Hagrid was narrating that the Eldari are decadent. So enjoy that.

631
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,280
Harry Potter is just going to seep its way into all of our videos.

632
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:37,360
I watch it every year for Christmas. So it's coming up. So warp storms just start to,

633
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,440
let's just say, I like the image of, you know, how you put ink in water and it starts to slowly

634
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:51,920
spread out and let's just say, die the rest of the pureness around it. The warp storms are,

635
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:59,040
start to ravage across the galaxy. And humanity itself, they can only really maintain this,

636
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:05,840
like interstellar, I guess, the ashes of this interstellar federation by doing warp travel,

637
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:11,760
because luckily travel in the warp is, I hate to use this analogy, but like Minecraft, isn't it?

638
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:17,440
If everyone goes to the end, not the end, is the end of the Nether, sorry, in Minecraft,

639
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:22,320
how you can travel further in the Nether. So it's like the warp is a bit shorter in distances,

640
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:32,000
some reason. And so communication and travel is completely just shut down. And this is really the

641
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,600
last nail in the coffin for humanity. And essentially it just like we collapse, like,

642
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:44,160
you know, worlds are cut off and it's just kind of everyone's on their own. Maybe you're lucky if you

643
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:51,680
can be within range of some planets, but essentially everyone is just like, we're done. And this is the

644
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:57,680
sad part of Andy, I'm very sorry for this bit, but for 3000 years, humanity starts to regress. The

645
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:06,240
golden age has passed. Technological understanding is poor, war and civil strife is just everywhere

646
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:15,440
over the scraps of just what's been left of like our best times. And this is sort of where religion

647
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:21,280
and faith starts to return to humanity. It's implied that it kind of, this is again, a little

648
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:28,880
bit of speculation, but it's implied that it's sort of faded away, maybe within the early millenniums

649
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:34,400
of humanity. So I guess we're in the second millennium, and then it's sort of between now

650
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:40,480
and what was essentially the golden age, it sort of faded away. And this is the time where, I guess,

651
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:47,200
it's so awful and life is just sucks. Let's be honest, it just sucks. And this is where like,

652
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:53,360
you start to see across made numerous different worlds where humanity reside, it starts to return

653
01:03:53,360 --> 01:04:00,880
on a certain scale. And this kind of slow decline is pretty much, you know, we all know where it's

654
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:05,040
going at this point, if you're part of humanity, you just kind of know that the best days are behind

655
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:13,600
us. But not everyone agrees with that. So on the war scarred hellscape of terror, a figure reveals

656
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:22,960
himself to the galaxy. This is the Emperor of mankind. So Big E decides, no, not, you know,

657
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,920
not on my watch or something. So you know, he gets, he's just stands up and he makes a,

658
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:36,080
I guess, sorry, makes a stand, shall we say. So, but this is not easy, shall we say. So terror,

659
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:45,920
the big emperor, big emperor, the biggie, the big daddy, the big daddy emperor, he is, he's on,

660
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:52,640
well, let's not go there, shall we? He is on terror when this is all collapsed. And

661
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:59,520
terror at this time, as we said, the beginner section is dominated by various techno barbarian

662
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:07,120
warlords, warmongers, leaders of like strange, weird cults. And I think I put at the end, selfish

663
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:12,640
individuals, just because I wanted to just explain that they are like very much they're in for

664
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,280
themselves. It's kind of like, um, they don't hear it.

665
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,520
People, he would cut into a queue. You're like, excuse me.

666
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,320
Oh, that's the worst lines over there. And they're like,

667
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:25,760
I'm going to go here. I'm just going to skip the queue. You can't do that in the UK. That's,

668
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:31,600
that's just like a warranting a death stare from everyone. I think, um, I think a lot of people

669
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,920
have made the analogy, like this is kind of like Mad Max. They want to hear a fan of like Mad Max

670
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:41,440
stuff like that. It's kind of a bit of a, uh, nod to that, shall we say. So we've covered a lot of

671
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:48,000
different influences from different universes. So we're, we're in Mad Max era right now. And

672
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,600
you're probably wondering where has the emperor been? Like where, why has he not, uh, made his

673
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:59,200
big presence known earlier? Cause obviously he's old, shall we say he's, he's a immortal.

674
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:06,320
And that's because the emperor himself has been working on a secret project. Uh, he currently

675
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:13,920
at this time resides in little hidden laboratories in the Himalayan mountains. And this is where

676
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:19,280
let's just say he's been cooking. He's been cooking up a plan to, uh, you know, he, they all

677
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:26,240
may say, um, who was the guy with the frosted tips by the way? Uh, what's his name? Yeah. Guy

678
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,320
Fieri or something like that. He, uh, he's been cooking. Well, what's his catchphrase? What's

679
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:36,960
his catchphrase? Uh, Guy Fieri, Colin, please. Yum, yum, yum. It's flavor time. It's flavor time.

680
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:44,880
Yeah. So the emperor, the emperor, it's, um, I know welcome to flavor town is it's not that, but

681
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:51,840
so the emperor, this is not canon, but it's in my head. The emperor says it's flavor time or

682
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:57,360
flavor town or time to take it to flavor town, whatever you like. And he unleashes many more

683
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:06,640
of solo. Oh God. So he, uh, unleashes his, a millennia long plan that he was creating

684
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:13,200
in secret. So in the Himalayan mountains, you know, in the snow armies begin to march forth

685
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:20,960
filled with mortals and engineered super soldiers. This is also, uh, at the kind of end of the 28th

686
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:27,120
millennium, this is where we meet the character Constantine Val door. So he is the first emperor's

687
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,880
custodian. Uh, he's a very, very cool character. I did a shameless plug, by the way. I did a cool

688
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,960
video on him. Let's check that out. Thank you. Thank you. And, um, we'll, we'll probably tackle

689
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,720
him in a, another separate video, but he's essentially, as Andi said in the beginning

690
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:50,480
section, custodians, like a handcrafted, like specialized super sculpture. It's implied that

691
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:57,040
the emperor remakes them on the molecular level. And yet there's also something else to that

692
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:03,600
process. And Val door in particular is also arguably as strong as a Primarch as the like main

693
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,840
custodian. A lot of people are like, Oh, he can like, he's pretty even match for Primarch. And

694
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:14,240
that's without all the weird warp. He, uh, he's supposedly jewels. He's jeweled a couple of them.

695
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:21,040
I think it states that he managed to the first time he fought Rogal Dawn in a jewel, he managed

696
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:26,320
to beat Rogal Dawn, but that was implied that because Val door was essentially a centuries

697
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:31,680
long experience warrior and Dawn had just been found by the emperor. So it's kind of like a cool

698
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,400
little part to show you, but then apparently he never beat him again after that. So, you know,

699
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:41,040
it'd be difficult. He'd like, it would, it would take quite a few custodians, but the custodians

700
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:46,160
are, that's how strong they are. They could take on a, you know, a demigod figure essentially.

701
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:53,600
And, uh, with these sort of specialized soldiers, there are also, uh, sorry, just backtrack a little

702
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:58,640
bit. Cause I found this, I love this part of the, uh, Constantine Val door book. It's implied that

703
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:06,080
when they first start out, the, uh, forces of the emperor, they're mostly scientists and they

704
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:11,520
essentially don't have much. So when they set out to like conquer terror, they literally say that

705
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,480
they started in like simple steals and like leathers and they had kind of mix and match

706
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:22,400
equipment. And every time they kind of defeated an enemy, they sort of slapped on pieces. They stole

707
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:29,200
all like powered armor and guns, but they have like really like Val door even states in a part

708
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,720
of his book that they literally began with just whatever they could find. And then it kind of,

709
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:40,000
he didn't invest in insurance for his STC, which is a bit of a shame. Yeah. It's like, it was a very

710
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,720
humble, I say humble beginning because it's filled with like demigod powered characters,

711
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:51,280
but they very much, they had to build everything as they were going. But there's also another

712
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:57,760
force, shall we say that fought alongside these mortals and custodians. I'll pass over to Andy,

713
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,160
just to give a little brief look into who these strange things were.

714
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:09,200
As, as good as the, um, custodies are the emperor knew he didn't really have enough to do a full

715
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:14,400
scale war. You know, his custodians are important. He doesn't want to waste them like getting mowed

716
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:20,240
down by like massive amounts of, you know, if a custodian can fight a thousand people and just

717
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:25,200
about survive, fair enough, but he doesn't want to like take a hundred of his custodians or a thousand

718
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,920
and sacrifice them. So he develops these thunder wars and they are, they are more powerful than

719
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:37,520
the starties. These guys are huge lumbering, genetically, um, engineered, it's like walking

720
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:43,360
tank men. And they were, they were designed by a genius scientist known as a Mar Astarte.

721
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,520
And the name is important there because she would also go on to, to develop the Astarte's

722
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:53,600
as it's their namesake. Uh, they were mass produced. So they, um, and, and the thing was

723
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:58,560
they were never designed to leave terror. Like the reason they have like open helm designed armor,

724
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,200
they had greaves with like bits missing where there were weak points. They weren't designed

725
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:08,800
to be unstoppable. They were designed to get the job done, you know, savage the enemy, cut them to

726
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:14,800
bits, absolute brutality and barbarism unleashed on the enemies of the emperor in like bronze armor.

727
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:21,200
Um, a good thing to check out, which I'm sure if you're listening to this podcast, you probably

728
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:27,760
already know, um, the last church written by Graham McNeil, there was a team that made an animated,

729
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:35,280
uh, version of it called Apocalypse. I believe it is. And it was created by a chap. I'm gonna

730
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:41,120
butcher his name. I think, uh, Tiber, Tiber Portuguese or Portugase who wrote it animated

731
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:47,680
by Tony Cesar and composed by Aaron Weatherford. And although the original video was taken down

732
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:53,360
by a games workshop, I think you can still watch it on the kill team, hungry YouTube channel. So

733
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:58,880
it's worth checking out. It's worth a watch. And that animation will detail the events and very,

734
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:07,440
very crisp detail, um, of the rise of the funder warriors and the, uh, the, the, the onslaught

735
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:13,120
they brought to terror. I think, uh, that animation has everyone here, uh, seen that by the way.

736
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:22,560
I saw most of it. Colin, I haven't seen all of it. Uh, but I've watched a decent bit of it. And it,

737
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,280
I, I cannot recommend it enough. It is, it's actually, I would consider it one of the,

738
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,000
if you didn't know what Warhammer was and you watch that, that would straight send you like

739
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,080
straight into the deep end. Cause it's so, um, nothing crazy, nothing, you know, defining

740
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:42,960
happens in it, but it's in terms of like, you know, big set piece battles, something like that, but

741
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:49,200
it has such a important moments. I do like that bit where it's like this huge army of techno

742
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:55,520
barbarians and they're like charging towards this line of funder warriors and they're trying to

743
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,360
shoot at them, but they're too far away. The guns don't reach, they start charging and then the

744
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:04,720
warriors just go volley and it just rips through them. Oh, it's haunting.

745
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:12,320
SNA them. Yeah. I'll go ahead. So the last church, both like the video and the stores,

746
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,600
it's also just cool. Cause it shows you can have a good Warhammer store without needing

747
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,040
like huge budget. Yeah. It just falls to the wall action the whole time.

748
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:27,920
And in the, in the, it's pretty good. It doesn't have any space as well. It doesn't have a,

749
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:33,360
a single space ring. I want to move on from the provocations. Well, there is a space mean

750
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:38,480
at the very end with the Garveo loco T, uh, Logan T's right at the end of the post credits, but still

751
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,200
I actually don't think I saw that part. So you caught me out. That's good. That's good.

752
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:49,920
It doesn't rely on them. They don't need to do with stories usually do and throw in marines

753
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:55,680
every five minutes. It's just like, Hey, this is a cool story. There's very little action,

754
01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:04,480
but it's still an excellent read. So speaking of the last church. So the Thunder warriors,

755
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:10,480
the custodians and the mortal armies of the emperor, they've pretty much, I guess,

756
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:15,600
I don't want to say crushed cause that's not big enough. They've crunked like the people of terror.

757
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:23,760
They, you know, they've ran deal and slithering out. They've, they've, they've very much, uh,

758
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:29,280
terror is pretty much theirs. They've crushed, they crushed many like big forces. There's a notable,

759
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:37,920
uh, enemy called, uh, Mollard Sen who's famously a like evil priest King who the emperor actually

760
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:43,520
met early on in his life. And there's kind of a nice hint there about they kind of knew this day

761
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,560
would come. So there's a lot of sort of famous names that essentially get ticked off the list,

762
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:55,920
but as the emperor's kind of United terror, he makes one last stop, shall we say. And this is

763
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,600
where the emperor, uh, as we've mentioned in the last church animation, he visits the last church

764
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upon terror and he meets with the priest named Uriah. Now we'll be a little bit sensitive here

765
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,920
because we're not here to render judgment or anything like that, but we're here to kind of

766
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show that I guess the conversation they have has a merit within both of them. So they have like

767
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,360
really interesting points which undercurrent and undermine each other. There's no, there's like,

768
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,800
there's no, I wouldn't say there is like a clear, ah, I'm right and you're wrong. They both have

769
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:35,680
elements of like, especially in the setting, like, ah, I suppose one is more harsh and cold

770
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:41,280
and calculated, whereas one is more emotional, but also filled with hope. And so there's,

771
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,040
there's an interesting dynamic in their discussion. Definitely. And I think, um, so to, uh,

772
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spoilers for the last church animation, we'll say it here, but, um, so in a brief summary,

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the emperor himself kind of goes into detail, uh, speaking with Uriah, the kind of, it's about

774
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:06,240
the intricacies of Uriah's own faith, which is, um, they all spawn many different stories that he

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,360
holds like very dear to his heart. And you can see like the, like Uriah himself has led a very

776
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:17,120
difficult life, but he kind of, he had a very like troubled and he wasn't very good person

777
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:22,400
in the beginning, but then he finds this place and it kind of cumulates to the point where

778
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:28,320
the emperor, when he's first approached Uriah, he was, you know, disguising himself as a

779
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:36,480
man, but at some point he decides enough and he actually reveals himself as the, you know,

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01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:43,360
the glorious, the golden wreathed in golden armor, shining psychic dominant man, the emperor of

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01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:51,680
mankind. And unfortunately with this kind of revelation, Uriah realizes that the faith that

782
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:59,760
he had been serving his like church, it was all built upon fables. And let's just say people

783
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:05,600
remembering stories about the emperor himself. So you even see it in parts where like things on

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like the ceiling are like depicting, as you mentioned earlier, the emperor fighting the

785
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:16,720
dragon of Mars and things like that. So this church is kind of built upon something that's not

786
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really the faith that Uriah has in his heart. And it's obviously a bit, I found that really sad,

787
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that part, cause it was like, damn, you know what I mean? And even Uriah, like his most crystallizing

788
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:35,440
moment in his like faith is when he thought he met, he met God. And then he realized that he met the

789
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:41,120
emperor on the battlefield 50 years ago, appearing just as he does before him, you know, gold

790
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,280
shimmering his, he put L'Oreal in his hair because he's worth it. You know what I mean? It's like all

791
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:52,000
flowing. But there's a nice part of this because even though I would say this is a little bit of

792
01:17:52,000 --> 01:18:01,120
speculation here, sorry, which is Uriah is, he realizes that his faith is not true in the sense

793
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,680
like, you know, what's written down in the book is not, you know, he can obviously see in front of

794
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:14,080
his eyes, it's not the truth of it, but everything he did because of his faith, he did, it ended up

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01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:19,520
being like a really good thing. Like he helped people, he cared for people, you know, the sick

796
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:25,200
and the dying and he's led a really good life because he believed. And even if what he believed

797
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:30,560
in was a lie, the belief itself, I think was real. I think that's a retouching moment because it's

798
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:37,920
saying, you know, his God didn't have to be real for him to lead a good life because of what was

799
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:44,400
written in his faith. And that's kind of where he, you know, puts a middle finger up to the emperor

800
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:50,480
and he says, you know, even if it's not real, I still did all that. That was me. And I, because

801
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:57,200
I believed it, it was real. And then he kind of, he doesn't want to live in the future where there's

802
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:05,200
almost no, where there's not people like who can, where humanity itself is not allowed to do the

803
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:10,960
things he has just done now. And so therefore he walks into the burning, the emperor's burning the

804
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:18,480
church down and Uriah walks into it and he defies, he literally defies the God-like emperor. Ironically,

805
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:23,840
you know, the emperor not claiming to be a God, but yet he's so God-like in his power. But Uriah

806
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,880
turns away and he literally holds to his faith all the way to the end. And it's a very, I think it's

807
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:34,240
a very nice, it's a very well-written piece and a very nice moment. I don't know. Did you guys,

808
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,480
I don't know if everyone else here had the same interpretation of that story. If they walked away

809
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:43,840
with that, what do you think Colin? I'll ask Eli after. I think, I don't know, something I always

810
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:51,600
come back to when I think about it is that Uriah is not a priest. He's said there's almost been

811
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:57,760
like called through his faith, but he's not trained as a priest. He's not ordained. So

812
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,120
I'd like to imagine that the emperor argued with an actual ordained priest instead of shooting them

813
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:09,600
in the face. He'd be even more on the losing front. And Eli, what do you, how do you think when you

814
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:16,400
came away from that story? In a long time since I read it, but yeah, I did really like it. I do

815
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:21,680
really like it because I don't know how to say it correctly. I don't know. I think the emperor has

816
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:27,600
very, well the emperor is a liar. He lied to everyone. And I mean, it depends on how you see

817
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:35,760
it, but the emperor knows gods do exist, but I guess in Warhammer, it's a perspective kind of

818
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:43,120
like how Fabius sees it of if they are gods or if there's really strong things. There's a coalition

819
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:51,200
of emotions in the warp. They're not like real. Yeah. So the end, sorry. We see people time and

820
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:59,760
time again, going back to seeing the emperor as a God, even Lohgar, his Primark. I mean, he's

821
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:07,200
not, it would seem, but it gets to the point where he's at such status and such power that calling

822
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:14,400
him a God is not that far off. And I mean, we see how him rejecting it entirely and not telling

823
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:20,800
people of the supernatural really bites him in the end and ruins it for everyone. He definitely,

824
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,360
Lohgar in particular, he's got the weird parallel of he grew up on a planet where there was worship

825
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:33,040
and his adoptive father was a clergyman of a form of faith and it ruined his legions

826
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:37,040
projectory. And it's like, ah, but that's what the emperor was talking about. And it's like, oh,

827
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:42,560
okay. Also as soon as Baldruses are introduced, there's like no time for talking anymore. It's

828
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,720
like, right, something's happening and it's not going to be good. I think also as Major Kil says,

829
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:52,640
he's also, um, Lohgar's bald. So therefore, you know, he's going to end up as the bad guys.

830
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:57,360
Absolutely fine when he had a head of hair and then bald, evil. There's something about Warhammer

831
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:03,520
and bald, the bald guy. So he ended up on the evil side. Even Borgrim lost all of his like skin

832
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:09,360
and limbs and was reborn as a big snake. And even he still had luscious locks and he looked evil,

833
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:17,120
but he looked better. But he's pretty. Pretty boy indeed. And I think, go ahead, go ahead,

834
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:22,160
Gollum. And I know it's jumping ahead, but even Gilman, now that he's back, is starting to think

835
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:30,960
maybe Lohgar had a point. Yep. I mean, the entire, in the end, Lohgar did win the heresy. Like,

836
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:39,920
the, the, the, the Imperial, even if Korraki outfies his daughter, scratching at it. Let me in,

837
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:46,400
let me in. Yeah. The only text though that the Imperium follows is literally the book of Lohgar.

838
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:53,040
Like he won the metaphorical, he won, he won the philosophical, philosophical, philosophical,

839
01:22:53,040 --> 01:23:00,800
philosophical. There we go. He won the philosophical war. Yeah. Unless you, you could also subscribe to

840
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:05,440
the idea that the Emperor orchestrated the entire heresy so that he could become a god and one day

841
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:11,280
destroy the chaos gods. That's a theory, I guess. But he just stuck a punch in Ergel recently. So

842
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:17,520
that was quite good. That was enjoyable. I think, whatever the reason, just before we move on just

843
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:22,560
to the, if we're wrapping up, shall we say the birth, the Imperium, the reason that the Emperor

844
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:30,240
burns the last church on Terra is because as he, the sort of the foundation of its Imperium is

845
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:36,240
beginning, the, this is say the, the thing that lies at the heart of the Imperium is called the

846
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:42,080
Imperial truth. And this is a set of like, I don't know if it's a say atheistic beliefs,

847
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:47,280
because it's a bit more than that, but it's essentially a worldview. Sorry, go ahead, Andy.

848
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:52,160
I know the kind of catchphrase is there are no gods in the earth or in the sky. That's like a

849
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:59,680
saying that is part of the Imperial truth. It's a sort of doctrine that's about, I think in a way,

850
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:06,320
it was meant to be designed as a, we're trying to return to how people saw the universe in the

851
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:11,840
golden age of humanity. So there's a sort of emphasis on there are no gods, there are no

852
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:20,240
stories and fables. There is only reason science is the only truth essentially. And they wanted to

853
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:26,320
create, well the reason that the Emperor does this will definitely be tackled, I think, as we get

854
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:32,160
further on into the Imperium story, because it's definitely a big reveal in the end. And like,

855
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:37,120
as Eli said, there's some obviously hypocrisy involved, which, you know, as Warhammer fans,

856
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:43,040
we love a bit of hypocrisy in the law, not outside the law, but in the law. So we'll definitely

857
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:48,720
tackle the Emperor's reasons for this kind of atheistic doctrine that he starts to spread.

858
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:57,840
And with the last church, unfortunately, and poor Uriah burned, terror is essentially unified,

859
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:06,160
and everything is under the, I would say hand, but I mean like the iron grip of the Emperor.

860
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:11,600
And the Emperor at this time sort of forms a, I think it's described in the books as a triumvirate,

861
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:17,200
so similar to, shout out a bit of history here if everyone enjoys that. So the triumvirate is

862
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:23,360
it's obviously taken from the time of, you know, when Augustus Caesar, he was obviously not called

863
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:29,520
Augustus at the time, but him, Mark Antony, and do you know the other third person in the triumvirate

864
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:35,280
columns? I know you enjoy your Roman history. Off the top of my head, I'm afraid.

865
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,440
It's all right, we'll get someone to comment it, I'm sure, but there's,

866
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:46,800
I'll leave that for you. I know, I'm sorry I put it out.

867
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,840
At the end of the podcast, or the next one will be doing a completely different subject,

868
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,800
and you'd be like, it's so and so, ah, sorry, go back to the old one.

869
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,360
Crassus. Crassus, so.

870
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,760
It was Julius Caesar, Pompey, and Crassus. Oh, that's the first triumvirate, isn't it?

871
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,960
I think another one with Mark Antony after. Oh, never mind.

872
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,000
Yeah, so that was- Hensley, Lepidus, and Octavian.

873
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:10,640
I'm sorry, I couldn't let that one sit. That's all good, all good. So this is the,

874
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:19,360
they form a triumvirate on Terra. We're at the essentially 29th millennium now, and I think,

875
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:24,400
I remember the word they use in the book for it was because there was, one was the king,

876
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,240
one was the sorcerer, and one was the warrior. I think they describe it as the emperor, obviously,

877
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:34,880
being the singular, it's described as the singular vision at their heart. It's famous words of the

878
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:41,120
emperor, and Malkadour obviously being a thousand-year-old perpetual. He's a very mysterious

879
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:46,960
kind of advisory figure. He looks like an old man, but he might, I don't know if it's described,

880
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:52,480
if he's an actual perpetual, but- I think he is. It's just a case of like, he puts on a,

881
01:26:53,360 --> 01:27:00,880
he projects to the world that look in order to have that kind of old man weakness.

882
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:06,800
Such. He looks like an old man, yeah. And I think there's a funny point, isn't there,

883
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,680
in the lore where him and Constantin Valdor, the custodian, they both run at the same pace at some

884
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:19,680
point. So obviously, Malkadour is not weak, but so Malkadour is like an elderly perpetual figure,

885
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:26,640
shall we say, but we'll tackle him again in another video. And Valdor, who's the first custodian,

886
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:33,040
so they are the triumvirate on Terra, and they start laying the groundwork for the next stage,

887
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:39,680
which is now that Terra's together and they've used the Thunder Warriors, the brutal, the awful,

888
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:48,160
just, I guess, maniacs that are the Thunder Warriors, they are not fit for a war in the stars.

889
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:55,600
And so they create a plan to exterminate all these warriors who had fought for the emperor,

890
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:03,600
and they just like basically backstabbed them. And after this is done, Constantin Valdor finds

891
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:09,680
himself confronted by one of the high lords of Terra. This is a figure called Aworma Candelwire.

892
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:18,000
She's kind of like an elderly stateswoman, I guess, but it's kind of, it's implied that she

893
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:25,200
confronts Valdor and she creates a plan with like kind of the surviving Thunder Warriors that was

894
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:32,400
not decimated, that she's trying to fight for an imperium that's almost like a democratic and

895
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:38,560
accountable imperium, where the emperor doesn't get to do what he wants. And yeah, so she's kind

896
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:43,600
of, you know, what would happen in our world, to be honest, would that kind of future would probably

897
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,360
be fought for, but in Warhammer, it doesn't obviously, you know-

898
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,040
With resin models with guns.

899
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:56,400
... with guns. So this is, it doesn't go her way, unfortunately. And there's a really awesome scene,

900
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:04,480
which is, it describes how she like stands before Valdor and the Thunder Warriors behind her,

901
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:11,440
and Valdor stands alone and he just looks at them all. And he just basically, behind him in the

902
01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:18,720
mist, it says like 10,000 helm flares ignite. And it's basically the adapters are starting to start to

903
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:25,600
march forward. So the space marines are here and they've been created in secret away from like the

904
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:30,000
knowledge of the high lords, again, an unaccountable force to the emperor.

905
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,560
They're the Dark Angels because they're the first legion, the proto Dark Angels.

906
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:40,720
Yeah. And they, there's a really cool part where it describes how the Thunder Warriors

907
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,240
fight like bears, but the space marines fight like wolves.

908
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:49,360
Oh, I love Ushatan. I love Ushatan, who's like the Primarch of the Thunder Warriors. Who's like,

909
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,440
not a Primarch, Primarch, but he's like-

910
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:52,960
The title is the title Primarch.

911
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,360
And he's like, he's fighting and Valdor's fighting and you know, he's killing these

912
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:02,160
space marines. He's like, Valdor, these new warriors fight, they're constipated. And I was like-

913
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:04,880
Great line.

914
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:12,480
Is a, Ushatan's like the last kind of leader of all, he has the title Primarch. So that's the

915
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:18,400
reason obviously why Primarch gets used later in the O'Hanmul-Law. And essentially they get

916
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:24,960
slaughtered and it's a Valdor, I think even at that point, they're not really like,

917
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,280
they're not upset with a Thunder Warrior. They think they did the good service, but they're just

918
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:36,560
not, they're not what's needed because the Imperium is going to encompass humanity and therefore

919
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:42,240
Thunder Warriors, unfortunately, don't belong in that vision. And so we kind of get to basically

920
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:50,080
the last stage of the birth of the Imperium here. So I think it's stated that the Adeptus Astartes

921
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:56,400
themselves, they were created from quote, new generals. And obviously we'll be talking about

922
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:02,720
them a lot in the Warhammer. So if you stay tuned, they'll be coming up quite a bit. And these were

923
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:09,040
new. So these Astartes were created from the gene seed. So specialized, fat grown organs from these

924
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:15,600
quote unquote new generals, Primarchs basically. And they were much more stable. They were a little

925
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,800
bit smaller, a little bit weaker than Thunder Warriors. I think we said that before, but

926
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:20,080
they're obviously-

927
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,160
Still little. They weren't as like-

928
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:23,680
Crazy.

929
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:28,080
The trade-off with the Thunder Warriors, they were big, they were bulky, but yeah,

930
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,080
fail safe to make sure that they didn't last too long.

931
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:35,040
And this was actually, they had to be, the reason they were created in secret was because

932
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:42,400
like with the, at this time for the Emperor, the reason he created these new generals was because

933
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:49,760
over the years, even we could probably say since he left the gate of Moloch many millennia ago,

934
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:56,160
the Perpetuals around him, they didn't see that the same man they decided to follow. And like,

935
01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:01,760
they all started to leave his side over the years. And so this is why he created these new generals,

936
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:07,280
I guess. I think this might be my own theory. He also created them because he wanted people to

937
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:12,480
relate to, but that might be like a kind of in the background is not a conscious thought sort of

938
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:18,240
thing, just my own theory there. So even like Ammar Astarte, who helped the genius Genesis,

939
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:23,840
she even betrays him as well. Like he's constantly gets betrayed by people who start to realize like,

940
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:31,440
oh, he's like, he's not sharing any of this. He means to put himself at the head of everything.

941
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:39,360
And these adapters Astartes, which I think the funny part is even after her betrayal,

942
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:44,720
he still likes to call them Astartes. And it's implied that he has, I think it's,

943
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,880
Malkador says he has a very, even now he says it was a very strange sense of humor. He's

944
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:53,840
obviously not funny, but I think he like, he enjoys the joke that the person who thought he would fail

945
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:59,840
and who betrayed him, he essentially has warriors named after these failures. And obviously they go,

946
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:05,440
no, it does come, you know, as much of a sense of humor as Luther calling him Lionel Johnson, like

947
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:10,880
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Johnson. That sounds a bit, a bit suss, I would say, but

948
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:11,920
Mr. P this.

949
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:20,720
So, so terror now essentially starts to be transformed. It's all under their control.

950
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:27,280
This is when the very last thing that kind of births the Imperium is the creation of the golden

951
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:34,240
throne. I think it said that it said that this is like a smashing of technologies from the golden

952
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:39,440
age of humanity, which is actually at this time, sorry, at this current timeline, it's actually

953
01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:45,040
referred to as the dark age, funny enough, because it's so, I can't remember the exact reasons why

954
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:49,520
it's called the dark age. I don't know if anyone here can remember, but it's essentially no longer

955
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:54,640
called the golden age, the dark age of technology when all these like great things were created.

956
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,960
And it's so long ago as well, like barely anyone understands it, obviously except the emperor.

957
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:04,560
So with the creation of the golden throne, we have the astronomic on as well. So it's like a

958
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:11,360
kind of North star beacon in the walk. And this essentially is like the kind of lighting the flare.

959
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:18,400
And this is where the emperor stands in front of all of them. He has his armies, he has his

960
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:29,040
Imperial truth, he has the astronomic on, and he's preparing to in his own view, save humanity.

961
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:36,800
And he launches the great crusade. So the Imperium is born and the reunification of mankind

962
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:43,360
begins. There we go, boys. I do have one small thing to read. And I thought, I think Eli touched

963
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:48,720
this a little bit earlier, and I would like it's in, I'll put it in the chat here. And I think I'd

964
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:56,880
like Colin to read this out as a sort of a, let's just say the mindset of the emperor as we kind of

965
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:01,200
leave off to, so we understand who he really is. This is a part with Uriah here.

966
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:07,760
Alan All righty. Uriah looked into the emperor's face as he spoke, now seeing past the glamours

967
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:12,800
and the magnificence to the heart of an individual who had lived a thousand lives and walked the

968
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:18,000
earth for longer than could be imagined. He saw the ruthless ambition and the molten core of the

969
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:23,600
violence at the emperor's heart. In that instant, Uriah knew he wanted nothing to do with anything

970
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,920
this man had to offer, no matter how noble or lofty his ambitions might be.

971
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:33,200
Oh, and that's, that's the true emperor of mankind.

972
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:37,200
There was a, could I add one more thing? Of course, of course.

973
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:43,520
I believe it's worth mentioning. I believe that in the last church, there was a clock in said church.

974
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:51,040
Oh, yep. That had been, it was broken and had been for many years. And it was prophesied to only ever

975
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:56,480
ring when the hour of the end of the world was at hand. And after the emperor was done burning the

976
01:35:56,480 --> 01:36:02,960
church to the ground, it very softly began to chime. Yep. Shivers, shivers.

977
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,080
Emperor is literally the bad guy. I'm telling you.

978
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,440
There's, there's no good. The emperor's a bad guy.

979
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:12,800
Him and everyone else in this. Yeah, they'd have to be a good guy.

980
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:24,080
I think, does anyone, so as we've, the Imperium is, you know, it's alive now and the great crusade

981
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:30,560
will be something we tackle next going forward. Does anyone here have any questions or maybe

982
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:36,640
final thoughts about humanity's kind of, humanity and the emperor, shall I say, their kind of,

983
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:42,000
let's just say, you know, 30,000 year long timeline that we just covered.

984
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,800
I don't know if it's on, if it was on purpose or not, but I feel like there's the emperor,

985
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:52,720
or like the, has some similar with the old ones with between the Thunder Warriors and the Crooks,

986
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:58,640
like the Thunder Warriors or there's, is disposable foot soldiers who ultimately have no place,

987
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:05,200
but to essentially serve as these brutes who are supposed to clear the threats.

988
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,880
At least the emperor was more thorough. He just, there's like, there's one

989
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:13,840
named Thunder Warrior who survived into the 40,000 year old, the horse heresy.

990
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,080
And like, yeah, he did a much better job at cleanup.

991
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,520
Yeah. The, the old ones and that's do so much, such a good job with the Crook.

992
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:26,960
He had the vacuum on full blast, essentially, who would them all up in one go? And I think it's.

993
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,320
Gilded vacuum.

994
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:36,000
Now the emperor himself is, is a very, the same mysterious figure doesn't even

995
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:42,080
quite justify it because even with all these books in Warhammer, if you are new, like it doesn't,

996
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:47,280
the emperor is intentionally just like, there's, there's misdirection. I wouldn't say left the

997
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,120
mystery because I've said that quite a lot, but that's my catchphrase, but it's, there's a lot of

998
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:55,360
misdirection because the emperor, I think me and Andy have said this before to each other, like the

999
01:37:55,360 --> 01:38:04,240
emperor is who you want him to be. Was it Colin? I think he's like, the emperor himself is, he's

1000
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:10,160
almost different to every person he meets. Maybe there's a sort of manipulate, manipulative

1001
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:15,200
undertone to it, or maybe it's just, he's what people expect him to be. And maybe we see what

1002
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:21,520
we want, but he's at this time now it's, you know, this is the launch, the 29th millennium

1003
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:27,600
and humanity on terror, you know, thousands, hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands,

1004
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:32,080
excuse me, hundreds of thousands of, you know, super soldiers, mortal armies,

1005
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:41,200
ships of incredible power are essentially launching towards the stars and war has begun.

1006
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:47,040
Is there any last, anyone got any last comments or feelings I want to share about the birth of the

1007
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:53,840
the imperial? Most of the emperor was from a new book, I assume, newer. I read a lot of it from,

1008
01:38:54,880 --> 01:39:00,400
I think I mentioned it in some of my other things, Master of Mankind, which goes into a lot of like

1009
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:06,080
a lot of like good detail about the emperor's like tree, it's kind of a, it's a very divisive

1010
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:10,720
book, we've said like, between ourselves, where it's just, yeah, I can, I can tell why people

1011
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:15,840
don't like it. It's valuable, because I got some bits in his book as well, which are little fragments

1012
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:22,400
of the emperor and the thunder warriors. Yeah, I assume people didn't like it because it, I mean,

1013
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,960
it just made canon, the emperor's origins, it kind of took away part of the mystery.

1014
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:31,680
I think you're also sometimes there's like moments where the emperor's like,

1015
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:37,760
like a good father in some books, and this kind of revealed that he's not, he's really not.

1016
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:45,520
I'm fine with that. I think it, it was like, it was like kind of the mass slipped, if you know

1017
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:50,720
what I mean, in this book. Yeah, I had to at some point, obviously. And I think some people don't

1018
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:57,440
like what they see, because it is in a way, horrifying to see a man that, to be that powerful,

1019
01:39:57,440 --> 01:40:04,720
but yet this was so much hubris, I'll say. Thank you all so much for listening to that. I hope,

1020
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,000
do you guys think you have a good understanding of the birth of the Imperium? How do you think?

1021
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,960
Oh, yes. Yeah, I think so. I feel like I've learned quite a bit.

1022
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,720
Quite a, quite a decent, you know, injection of law there. We will,

1023
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:22,000
uh, lucky for our next episode, I was, I was, uh, also good. I was going to say, would it be okay

1024
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:29,440
if I, uh, do the what's coming next? Oh, of course. Absolutely. Go for now.

1025
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:38,240
Of course we, the, uh, the next time in the mainline, uh, podcast, we are going to keep

1026
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:42,720
the timeline going. We're going to be talking about all of the wonderful 40 K stuff, you know,

1027
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:49,920
in love, but next time we're going to be changing over a bit by the time this goes up, the empire

1028
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:54,960
of man quiz will have been out for a little while, but for the first time in the maid podcast,

1029
01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:01,840
we're taking a switch. As many of you know, I'm quite like my Eldar. I know Andy in particular

1030
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:10,800
takes, uh, offense to it, but they are, they are not my favorite Warhammer racer faction.

1031
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:19,920
That, that belongs to one in Warhammer fantasy and one who, if you ask your local witch hunter,

1032
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:24,400
he will assure you does not exist. There are most certainly not rat men in your walls.

1033
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:35,040
We will be covering the skaven race next time. Yeah. So excited. The horned rat, the horned rat

1034
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:42,080
and Colin number 13. It will both be doing the entire podcast episode in a skaven voice.

1035
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:48,800
We can't promise that. The beginning section will be on the skaven voice. So if you hate the

1036
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:54,720
skaven voice, don't worry. Colin. It's not going to do it. He's been, unless he does praise number

1037
01:41:54,720 --> 01:42:03,600
13 boys and girls. Thank you so much for listening everyone. Uh, I'm going to go ahead and say,

1038
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:09,040
thank you so much for listening everyone. Uh, make sure to like, uh, subscribe. We, it was a really

1039
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:14,800
help us out. We really appreciate it too. And, um, if you have any questions or if we made any law

1040
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:22,960
crimes, um, do let us know, uh, cause we make quite a few often. So we would very much appreciate

1041
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:28,400
it. And we will see you all next time with the, I don't know how to say the skaven. What, why can I

1042
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:36,960
describe that there? I don't know if awful was the right word. The infected word you can use to

1043
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:45,760
describe skaven scourge skirt, the scourge of the skaven. I was the answer. We will see you all,

1044
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:59,120
uh, next time. Thank you so much for listening. Take care of everyone. I love you.