What is going?
Oh, he's got a sentient backpack, a sentient pimp cane and a sentient
Thunderbird, the too many, too many things.
I've got a drum.
He's got a grumpy storm bird also.
He's so grumpy.
Not said he's he's got malevolent teacup.
And if you put the wrong kind of liquids in it, if you put like, you know,
like you put babies in it just spits it out in your eyes.
The non sentient poop knife.
Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Law Crime.
Today we'll take you on a journey from beginner to expert in Warhammer
law on this episode, we are going to be covering the Clone Lord, the
disgusting, but yet beautiful Fabius bile.
And now I will hand over to my illustrious coworker, my brother in
arms, Andy, to helm our beginner section.
Take it away, Andy.
Okay.
Well, today we are talking about a particularly peculiar, I think is a
good way to describe him character in the Warhammer 40k universe.
Very unique amongst Astartes for several reasons, but I suppose we'll
start with the basics, like who is Fabius or Fabius bile?
Some people say Fabius.
I'm never really sure the correct pronunciation myself, but I think the
correct one is Fabius, but I find Fabius sounds nicer, something about it.
I don't know, but either way.
So Fabius bile hails from the third Legion of the Adeptus
Custodes, Astartes, not Custodes.
And he was the Lieutenant Commander and Chief Apothecary of the third Legion.
Little bit of information about Fabius during the Horus heresy, prior to the
Emperor's children's fall to chaos, Fabius was experimenting on how to
make the soldiers in the Legion stronger and he was one of, probably the main
reason why they fell so swiftly.
I think it's a fair point to say he was one of the main reasons, if not the main
reason that they fell to chaos.
I mean, a big nudge to give you a night.
He made Eidolon capable of like screaming his enemies to death.
He did all sorts of wacky experiments on not just the Astartes, but also
his Primarch Fulgrim.
And of all the characters in the lore, he is the most, I say, prolific
Apothecary, the medic class of Astartes, of the soldiers.
And what's interesting about Fabius is he, although he is a pawn of chaos, to
an extent, he is not driven by power.
He's not driven by a want to wage war.
His entire modus operandi is he is in a never ending quest to find knowledge
and to create and to experiment.
So what's interesting about Fabius is, for example, everything is a means to an end.
He doesn't like the Ruinous powers as such.
He doesn't like demons.
He doesn't like chaos.
He believes that chaos and the warp is something you can explain scientifically.
He doesn't believe that there are such things as gods.
He doesn't believe that, you know, that that that worshiping these quote
gods in his own tongue is worthwhile because they're just he's I don't know
what the word would be to describe them.
They're not quite apparitions, but he just sees them as like the
machinations of humanity.
They're almost like forces of nature.
Yeah.
And he doesn't have that same zealous streak at his brothers in arms from the
third legion do, but he was, he was arguably the most liked of his legion by
Fulgrim.
Arguably.
He's a bit, I say, particularly with his appearance as well for the, the
beautiful man, the gorgeous man that is Fulgrim.
I don't think one could say Fabius was made in his image.
Maybe, maybe not.
But he always respected him as like, I feel like I'm sure I've read, like I've
been reading the, listening to the Fabius Bile books recently and there's all these
mentions of, you know, he always liked you the most because, you know, you were
keeping things, you know, you were doing the most for the legion.
You had your head on properly.
I'm like, I'm not going to be pushed.
You know, but he's, he's always been, there's lots of mentions in, for example,
the 41st millennium where people are saying, oh, the legion shattered.
You're the only one who can bring us back from the brink and make us a
fragment of our former glory.
Because more than anyone else, because he wasn't so decadent as the other
emperor's children, he, he was able to kind of, to collar them and reel them
in a little bit.
Fabius has done a lot of weird stuff over the 41st of the, what, 10 years?
The first of the 10,000 plus years.
That is the biggest understatement I think anybody has ever said in the
Warhammer lore.
Did you have anything in mind that you would say was particularly
weird that you can think of?
I think the, for, if you are new to Warhammer, particularly, Fabius as an
apothecary, you think, oh, healer, you know, you know, it's not like in other,
I guess, fancy settings, but like the healer is usually like the calm, good guy.
Fabius is definitely a neutral evil, shall we say?
Yeah.
And the parts where he would, I think, I was reading the Lucius book and he just
straight up is just experimenting and putting like alien DNA in things.
Just being like, why are you doing that?
Why not?
Is the biggest answer always, why not?
When you, when you brought up, when you brought up, he was like the medic.
And then when he said, you brought up Eidolon, I can't help but imagine him as
the medic from team Fortress 2.
He's just shoving like baboon hearts at the people.
Oh, that is cursed.
Yeah.
He actually was the person who saved Nathaniel Garrow from dying.
Uh, when he, he lost his leg, who was the person who treated his wounds.
Fabius Bar was the first person to get to him and treat his leg.
And if in a weird way, if it wasn't for Fabius, maybe the loyalist war effort
wouldn't have really on off as it comes to law crime.
I know the police outside.
You can't, uh, can't conflict any legs in the law.
How dare you utter this heresy that maybe Fabius was integral to the events
leading to the, you know, the loyalist war effort anyway.
Um, so yeah, he, he's actually a really good medic.
He's, he's, you know, he's, he's so good at being a medic.
He regularly performs surgeries on himself.
Uh, he, he has cloned his body.
And so to say that Fabius that is alive in the 41st millennium is alive, isn't
really true.
He's a clone of his former self with like an imprinted version of his mind.
The Fabius has been dead a long time, but there's so many copies of him.
Every time he dies, he jumps into a new body.
He has fail saves in place.
So if someone betrays it, cause you know, chaos guys aren't the most trustworthy of
guys in the 41st millennium.
That's shocking.
They're actually horrible accusation.
Cannot believe.
You know, inflated skin, not really the guys you'd leave your house keys with, but
like, yeah.
Um, so anytime he's, he's, he get it.
He even gets a sniff of betrayal and he gets stabbed in the back.
Doesn't matter.
He's got a bot, he's got a new body on the ship he's currently at wherever he is
that just activates.
And then he's like, plump.
Oh, I'm alive again.
No worries.
Kind of like budget necrons, um, which there is even an exchange with him and
Tres in the infinite where he's like, Oh, you're doing a primitive version of what
we do.
And he's like, go away.
I don't like Xenos.
And, you know, fun times with, with two of the, arguably the two smartest people in
the galaxy or some of the smartest people in the galaxy.
You know, can't, can't do too much.
I enjoyed that.
Like the galaxy is the emperor.
I really enjoyed that conversation between Tres in the infinite and Fabius
because it's such a, they obviously they're in both in different realms.
So if you are like new and you don't know who Tres in is Tres in is a necron
overlord, obviously an un kind of a semi undead Egyptian metal dude.
And Fabius is obviously the, I guess they kind of the epitome of what is a machine
genius.
And in a way, like obviously the genius of the flesh, if you know what I mean?
So they kind of represent two pillars of, uh, different viewpoints, but they
obviously, I think there's a brilliant point, isn't it?
Where they said why I think Fabius asks Tres in why we're even talking.
And then Tres in says, because I was curious.
And then Fabius goes, yes, I understand.
Yes.
Well that curiosity often gets them in trouble as well.
Indeed.
They're no Eldred, but I guess they're okay.
Yeah.
Oh, I had to bring it down to elves in me.
I knew it was coming.
Yeah.
I'm not going to support a traitor.
They're not going to let that slide either.
They're no techless.
Oh, I know.
It has to bring it back to elves.
You know, be sick everywhere.
The true, the true PXK.
Anyway, to be sure that, all right, we can move on from what you said.
But to do a 180 and get back to the light of the emperor.
So Fabius has also been trying to replicate a lot of stuff that the emperor first did.
He was very much inspired by, Oh, the emperor is a really good scientist.
I want to kind of, I want to make better things than he did, which has had mixed results.
He has his own little bunch of what he calls children.
And he's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
very faitesed man who was aAdvancenete, who was a nocturnal
and technologies. I don't want to give too much away. He has a consortium, which is a group of
Astartes who are apothecaries of various traitor legions, who are drawn to him because they know
he's a smart guy and they want to learn from him. So he's got like apprentices from like all the
traitor legions who are part of his like inner circle that he gathers occasionally and says,
okay, what kind of Geneva Convention breaking experiments can we do today class? And they go,
well, let's think about it. And yet very, very interesting motivations as far as a character goes.
I think that's a fairly broad way of going into Fabius Bial as a character.
Did we have any questions? What I've already mentioned already?
I think I have a slight one, which is about how I think in a lot of the books as well,
it doesn't necessarily, there's no like crystallizing, I think moment of when,
because a lot of times when you meet Fabius Bial in Warhammer, you kind of, you know, we're
like either, you know, we're the Imperium usually. And we kind of, you just like, oh, look, there's
that kind of slightly balding apothecary. I bet he's not too bad. And then you-
He's not Frankenstein, get him. Yeah. And then you just, it's one of those things
about his darkness and his kind of roguish, roguish, rogue, roguility, is that even a word?
His roguishness is like revealed to us later on in his-
Renegade-ness.
Renegade-ness. That's a great one. Yeah.
His roguish gilliman-ness.
Roguis gilliman-ness.
Renegade-ity.
There's no like, kind of, yeah, it's like one of those things where I never know if he
was always like that, particularly in the Horus Heresy Legion, or if that's something he became.
I wondered if that was a-
I think over time he got jaded. That's the way I read it, at least. Like there's stuff
in like his trilogy of books where people have said, you know, you could have led the
third legion back to glory. You could have done this, you could have done that. And he
has several times where he goes, we were idiots for doing the heresy. We never would have won.
And we were fools. And look what happened to the- and it's point- and he's very much like, ah,
oh well. I just need- his main motivation in those books is, I need to do my great works before I die.
And that's all that matters. He doesn't care about surviving. He doesn't care about
living forever or immortality. It's like, I need to do the things that I think are important.
And then when I've done those, I can die and be happy. And that's an interesting-
that's an interesting motivation considering the rest of his kind of camp of the rogues gallery.
And like, I want to be the ruler of the galaxy and I want to live forever and eat baby hearts.
And it's like, oh god, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Chaos.
It's kind of cool even, because even outside of chaos, a lot of factions, 40k are just,
like, I just want to survive the next five minutes and fabulously just be like,
as long as I get what I got to get done, I'm good. I can die.
And also, he dies on a regular basis. Like, no, no worries. It's okay. Don't worry.
We just hop bodies real quick. Don't mind me. Copy, paste, new Fabius, done.
I think that's the only big one I had really. Colin, you got anything you need to like really
get off your chest about Fabius? It's a question that I feel like might
be answered more in the expert section, but I'll ask it now anyways. And if it is, you can just
say we'll get to it. I'm guessing there seems to be a lot of parallels between him and the emperor.
It just seems like Fabius, the emperor has like three morals, lines he doesn't cross,
and Fabius has zero. Have they ever worked together? Because that would seem like that'd be
natural. I don't think they have. I don't think so.
But he has some opinions on the emperor's work. Oh, well, yeah, there's a kind of semi-famous
thing where he was like, he's an egalitarian Fabius. He's like, why didn't the emperor make
women into Astartes? That's a waste of resources. You're like, oh, he would have made like female
space marines. Because like some of his children who are the Astartes killers are female warriors.
And so he just goes, oh, are they strong? Okay, I'll pick any of them. I'll just breed. You guys
can keep breeding through genetic mutations and stuff and get stronger. And he's got like his
favored child who I can't remember her name off the top of my head, but she's like the best at
killing. And he's like, ah, I think it's not really affectionate towards me.
The idea of him being like gender neutral is in like, you think it's a nice bit,
like, because obviously it's Fabius Bialycer is like, I respect all people. All people are materials.
Everyone is equally material. Yes. It's not the way we hope it to be. It's like a bit dark,
bit dark. He was this close to being an ally. Deep down, our hearts are all the same. And I
would like to look at all of them. I think that's all the questions covered. I think we'll head on
to the expert section then hit us, hit us with the good law. Fabius Bialy is the greatest apothecary
and perhaps the most ingenious human being to ever live. He is the primogenitor, spider,
clone lord and man flair. It was largely because of Fabius that the third Legion fell so far beyond
recognition during the horse heresy. Yet he created monstrous warriors who were enhanced far beyond
a regular space Marine. In fact, in his opinion, perhaps improved upon as a space Marine.
Many mad scientists and crazed geniuses have come from humble and at times even uncorrupted
beginnings. Fabius though, had a glint of madness and psychopathy at the beginning of his very youth.
This would slowly shape him into one of the most influential men of the Imperium and perhaps the
entire galaxy. So Fabius was born and raised upon Terra in Northern Europa. He learned the ways of
flesh crafting from a very young age. Teachers showed him the ways of creating life and Fabius
reveled in discovery. One of his very first and greatest being the ability to replace pain with
pleasure, which we will see be a very big deal. To answer your question earlier, how
yes, Fabius was messed up from the very beginning, essentially. I was going to say how young is he?
Was that standard procedure? Like, you know, the snappers chose him to get shot instead of
screaming in pain, he busts a nut. I mean, at the end of the heresy, literally though.
I mean, I suppose Fabius was when that started to change. It was like, we are perfect and we
are good boys. And then I know there was the whole thing with the Third Legion where their
jean stores got decimated by a virus. And so... Oh yeah. Let's do it, let's do it.
So before departing as part of the tithe to the Space Marine Legion, Fabius was taught one last
lesson by his mentor. That no matter how much flesh is changed, the soul itself will never change,
and the soul is what matters. You would think it'd be a little wholesome, but compared to a
situation it probably was not as nice as you think it is.
Yes. Not from the teacher that was like teaching him to feel pleasure from pain. The
changes looked mysteriously into his eyes. That's a bit too far.
And the starties of your age will notice that your body is changing.
Okay. When an Astartes and a Lady love each other very much,
very much. There was nothing happening there. Move on. Unless they're the Space Wolf.
So, Fabius would later find himself in the Third Legion, the Emperor's children. The best Legion.
Here, he would truly begin his destiny. The Third was a struggling yet noble group at the time,
barely holding onto life due to a disastrous event involving their jean seed. The Emperor
recently theorized a solution to the quickly deteriorating jean stock of the Space Brains,
but for further research, each Legion was required to send their jean seed reserves to Luna.
And the Emperor's children's jean stock would disappear under very mysterious circumstances.
We will find out where these jean stock went later in the video.
Far worse than this though, the jean stores on Terra would be corrupted by a terrible virus,
leading to the eradication of the entire reserve of the Emperor's children's jeans.
This is when Fabius came in. He would come to the grim realization that the jean blight had not
ended on Terra, but survived to taint the Legion itself. And, as time went on, more of his brothers
would perish. Bile would become highly desensitized in the face of loss. Already making him more of a
psychopath. Or sociopath in this sense. There was nothing Fabius could do but catalog the
infected jean seed as he watched the Legion crumble around him. His first breakthrough
was barely that. He discovered a means to test for the contagion in his living brothers,
which would appear to be the time of his fall. Or pushing over the edge.
Before the Legion had even found Fulgrim, Fabius was on the path to damnation.
Yet, like many of his brothers who would later fall, his descent was largely determined by
unfortunate position and situation. He did what he had to do. Orders came in to the Emperor's
children demanding that all tainted jean seed be destroyed. This included the jean seed of the
living. So began the isolation and madness of Fabius. It was his job to test the brothers for
this flaw. And his job to decide who died. He became the judge, jury, and executioner. A butcher.
All of his comrades became nothing but biomass to him. Flesh to be cut open and studied. He was truly
hated. Fabius was already an estranged and eccentric individual. And all this simply pushed him into
the realm of the mad genius. One of his greatest, most iconic mechanical creations would arise from
this time. And I might say this wrong, but it was the Chirurgen.
Or Ky-Rur-Gen.
Ky-Rur-Gen.
There is no correct pronunciation. It's Ky-Rur-Gen.
I always thought it was Chirurgen.
Uh-uh.
It's Charlie for short. It's Charlie. We'll call it Charlie for now.
The Chirurgen is a very, very cool and evolving invention. At the time-
Very weird.
Yes. This spider-like machine was simply used as an assistant in his work. But over the millennia,
it would grow a sentience of its own and become far more malign. Andy, do you have anything else
special to say about this?
I have a lot of notes about the Chirurgen. So, um-
Charlie.
Charlie. So, yeah. Fabius kind of invented it and tweaked it over the years. But as soon as
he started to reside in the Eye of Terror, it kind of gained sentience. Just a little bit. Not too
much, but it can think. And it became an amalgamation of technology and warp sorcery.
So, this thing is charged with the warp. So, in the 41st millennium, by dint of wearing it,
Fabius is pumped with Eikor, which strengthens him and makes him stronger than a regular Astartes.
He can also use the Chirurgen to inject his allies, but the results are a bit hit and miss.
Sometimes, temporarily, they get really strong. Other times, their metabolism skyrockets and they
basically eat themselves from within. There's all sorts of weird things that happen with this
backpack he wears. It's a backpack.
It's like a Tech Marine backpack almost.
Yeah, like the backpack from Dora with the face on it. I think that's it.
Dora is an explorer, but she makes things in the warehouse from the inside of the Chirurgen model.
And this is what he uses to do- when he's awake, he uses this to do surgeries on himself. So,
of course, that's how he does it. He has this thing that can think and it's kind of warped.
It's crazy. It's got 10,000 years of his own tweaks and messing around.
So that's how he performs surgeries on himself.
Weird thing about this thing, at one point it went missing. And Fabius was like, yo, consortium,
my children, can't find my backpack. Can you go look for it?
We got a problem.
He finds it, and it's given birth to a bunch of eggs.
Given birth- I don't like that.
Whoa, where's this going?
And the eggs have hatched mini-Chirurgens. And Bayer was really kind of like, that's weird.
And he really, really wanted to dissect it and go, what the hell is going on in here?
But he didn't in the end because his train of thought was, I have few enough allies as it is.
This thing literally helps me do surgery on myself. I'm not going to betray that trust.
That's a weird thing, right?
That's weird.
Yo, you- go ahead, Colin.
I guess, I mean, I get it. Like you said, he's a chaos marine.
You gotta take what frenzy can get.
Even if it's a weird backpack thing.
I'm not saying it's ideal. In fact, it's probably about as far as you can get from ideal, but-
Trust your backpack. Is this the wrong center?
Yeah.
Then again, this is coming from a guy who literally has a lab coat made of human skin.
Yeah.
So like, yeah. Swings around about, it's like, yeah, my backpack's given birth to a bunch of baby
backpacks, but at the same time I'm wearing Darren and-
Wearing Darren.
You know, there's a little bit of Frank over here. You know, like not the most stable place to-
He is not good at interior. He's not good at interior decoration,
but he's very good at making coats. God, that's weird. That is weird.
It's quite neat. It's girly.
Of course you like it.
That's weird. Me. That's weird. He like, it's pretty cool.
It's grown flesh in the most recent time and some of his lackeys found it eating things,
even though it doesn't really eat. But yes. Anyways, let's go back to the
30th millennium for a little bit. So you're talking about Fabius calling the taint from
the Emperor's Children Legion. And he does, successfully. So once the taint is finally
purged from the Legion, Fabius would add his own genes to the records as he tied up the loose ends.
This would bring the realization that all along he had been infected. It is unconfirmed how he did it,
but Fabius's record would come out as clean, and his only friend would be found tainted.
It is thought then that in an act of incredible betrayal,
Bile would swap his record with this space marine named Lykeon, one of the tiny few who he could
call friend. This man would then become a reanimated thrall within Bile's lab.
So he got to keep his friend in the end.
In one way or another.
He's carrying him as dad. He's like, I keep you in a tank.
Yes.
Oh, kind of sad.
Yeah, it is too bad. No one really liked him after that.
Well, no one ever really liked him, except for that one guy.
That one guy, the cleaner, who doesn't come around anymore.
I'm pretty sure Julius Ace-1 liked him for a while until he was just obsessed with heavy metal.
Yeah. So when the Legion finally found Fulgrim, Fabius was the only apothecary left,
and the Legion numbered a meager 200. He had single-handedly saved the Legion from the blight,
but this feat would be shadowed by the innumerable men he had slaughtered in the process.
Fabius would later become one of the extremely few of the 200 that still live to this day.
Fulgrim would see a cynicism in Fabius that he thought negatively of, but aside from this,
he treated the apothecary with great respect and even stood up for him.
He told everyone to stop calling him Spider,
which was the nickname he got because he wore the crown.
He didn't like it.
So Fulgrim was actually nice to him, and saw a potential in him, I suppose. And as a result,
he would offer Fabius many promotions of rank, but Fabius would always decline
because rank meant nothing to him.
And that relationship would be important later on as well.
He often ignored the chain of command completely and operated almost as a separate entity, locked
away in his laboratories. Despite this, he was an incredibly skilled teacher, and the apothecaries
of the Third would become amongst the best in the Imperium. This skill at teaching would never leave
Fabius and is a large component of his success today.
In his time studying mutants of an enemy force, Fulgrim would discover the chilling reality of
Fabius' beliefs. That the space marines are imperfect, the Emperor's work is fallible,
and it is his job to succeed where the Emperor had failed. Despite his complaints and opinions,
the Spider would later become chief apothecary and lieutenant commander of the Third,
bringing him an even larger degree of autonomy. Guy can basically do whatever he wants.
And it doesn't take much to get him to do whatever he wants.
He's doing Fulgrim's plastic surgery. You do not mess with Fabius' bio. It's too important.
But where does he put the plastic?
These are the big questions we need to know.
Some truths and some questions are best left unsaid.
Wherever and however it fits.
So now we arrive at Laren, the beginning of the end for the Emperor's children.
In the conflict against the Lair race, Fabius would discover the prospect and intrigue of genetic
alteration, finding that many of the aliens were altered in ways to fit in their theatre of war or
place in society. To Fabius, this means of improvement was a step towards perfection,
and while Fulgrim would be appalled at first, he would eventually allow the apothecary to improve
upon his battle brothers. This obsession with evolution and progress would only proliferate
within the mad scientists throughout the millennia. Working night and day, Fabius would tirelessly
begin experimentations to enhance the Legion, and when the day came, Lord Commander Eidolon would be
the first to feel the scalpel of the spider. Unfortunately for him, it was not revealed that
Xeno's flesh and genetics were to be implanted in this horrid work until he was already strapped to
the table. Eidolon would later awake stronger and further tainted than before. His newfound powers
were later displayed against the Eldar as he emitted an ear-splitting nerve-shredding shriek,
that could literally destroy swaths of enemies and even armored transports.
Like, that was pretty weird. And so again, like Fabius being involved in the very opening stages
of the Horus heresy. Well, I particularly, I remember reading some of the Fulgrim books,
the part I like as well is Fulgrim, although if you do end up reading a lot of Horus heresy books,
it feels very fast that Fulgrim falls, but if you remember, it's after like 200 years of the great
crusades, it's a long time. But the part I think I enjoy about it with like the Fabius, the part
where Fulgrim comes to Fabius and they're starting to experiment on their own legion. Fabius essentially
hasn't changed the entire time. He was always that person. She's like, Fulgrim at this point,
you know, basically after 200 years, he goes, you know, I will not let Xeno's DNA be part of me.
And Fabius just goes, but you might fail the Emperor if you're not perfect. And he goes,
damn, you got a point there. In that kind of vein, is it right if I slip in a quick quote for Colin
to read? Oh, of course. I'm excited for this one. Okay. So this, this, I think this, this ties in
with what Hal was saying about like the ends justify the means with Fabius. So here you go,
Colin. All right. Let me, let me, let me get my, my dramatic voice reading.
If a man dedicates his life to good deeds and the welfare of others, he will die unthanked and
unremembered. If he exercises his genius, bringing misery and death to billions, his name will echo
down through the millennia for a hundred lifetimes. Infamy is always more preferable to ignomy.
Oof. That sounds like Fabius. That's Fabius.
Just a little bit haunting there, doesn't it? This sounds like a game show.
That sounds like Fabius.
And Fabius does change eventually, not necessarily for the better, but his,
his direction and motives change a bit after the Horus Heresy, I'd say.
They evolve in all the wrong ways. Yeah. For the most part. I think actually I'd say
41st millennium Fabius might actually maybe be a slightly better person than 30k Fabius.
Yeah. He's more repentant. He's more like, he's more sorry for some of the things he's done. He's
full of regrets to an extent. Well, we'll get there eventually.
So Fabius's greatest discovery and undoing of the chapter would once again be the linking of pain
and pleasure receptors within Astartes. He knew how to do it with humans, but not with Astartes
until now. He would create a superior Osmodula, making space marine bones more virtually
indestructible than they already were. The sonic shriek spoken of earlier was the result of an
altered Betcher's gland using laryn hormones. These were only a few of his many improvements
to the space Marines under his scalpel. And I mean, if the Legion didn't turn into a bunch of
crazed maniacs, he probably could have done a pretty good job at making a formidable force.
It's always cool whenever someone brings up the Betcher's gland. I feel like it doesn't happen
often enough. Yeah, I know. We want more Betcher's Glam videos and films on Netflix.
Shout out to my Betcher's gland people.
Shout out to Betcher's gland people.
I know it's silly, but you spit acid. That's metal as hell.
Yeah. Yeah. He did come to his probably most important breakthrough at the time for,
well, ruining the Legion. It would involve splicing Xenos DNA to create a drug which would
greatly increase Legionary's already incredible metabolism and strength. And under the influence
of the Lair Blade, Fulgrim would give the Apothecary permission to distribute the drug
en masse to the entire Legion. Bad times. So Mr. Marius Ferozian would be another of Fabius's great
works as he became the very first blessed noise Marine. Not blessed at the time, I guess, but
still. They were called cacophony back then. And Fabius is somewhat of a father to all
cacophony, at least the original ones. And all of the ones in the 41st millennium are either
originals that he made or they're just improvements upon what he made or versions of what he made. So
that's a little cool connection he has with all of the noise Marines he sees in 40k. He even
recognizes one as his own work when he meets a little coven of them, but that's later. So
Marius is given a similar streak as Eidolon, as well as other auditory enhancements. After many
surgeries, Marius would descend into barely contained madness, an unfortunate fate of much
of the third. His flesh was a prison and every sensation was ramped up to 1000%. Slight ire felt
as burning hot rage and the smallest pleasure became an orgasmic sensation of bliss.
Yo, let's go. Let's go. Almost as sensitive as the elder are.
With the blessings of Slaanesh and the apothecary's knife, you're always left wanting more,
never getting enough. Many of these enhancements would become widespread throughout the Legion,
and Fabius worked tirelessly to continue his craft. By the time of the Dropsite Massacre,
the Space Marines of the third were unrecognizable monsters. Mouths were permanently
distended, eyes stitched open, speakers and amplifiers were stuffed into flesh,
ears were split open, and those are only the small things.
While the Lair temple was a great tragedy and unwilling corruption to the Dark Prince,
Fabius gave the Legion right into Slaanesh's hands. Upon Istvan V,
Bile would create his infamous coat of flesh from the fallen of this horrid conflict.
It was around this time that he developed the Cyclos Needler, which Andy, would you
tell us about that? So, let's talk about the Cyclos Needler briefly. So, the Cyclos Needler
is basically like a very big dart gun, and it contains Cyclos serums on… usually it contains
three Cyclos serums. One containing hypervenom, one hallucinogens, and one pyroclasmites.
Basically, Fabius used this as a way to be like, it's inevitable I'm going to be fighting Astartes,
but while I'm doing that, I can glean some information and do some experiments. So,
he uses this to like… when he shoots his enemies, not only does he kill them, but he gets to observe
how they die, and he gets to experiment with the toxins he creates. So, he's a bit of an overachiever.
He's like, I'm not going to just kill you, I'm going to kind of take advantage of this opportunity
to like further my own scientific intrigue and curiosity. So, it's a bit messed up. It was
actually developed when he analyzed genetic material from the blanks or nulls of the Imperium.
And it's because of this, because of the null's ability to stifle psychic powers or warp powers,
it's particularly effective when warding off and fighting demons. And pretty much, as far as I can
tell, Fabius is pretty much the only one who still uses one, because he developed it.
Only the third legion had it. They're kind of decimated as it is, more or less.
I'm not seeing any Primaris with Xikos Needles, that's all I'm saying.
Yet. Yet.
It's pretty funny, he has like every piece of equipment he's got is just like cursed. Like,
it's just, you know, like, you know, Dora the backpack with children.
I don't want to talk about the gun, Eli, but there is another important piece we could talk about.
No, there is. Does he own, one of you owns anything ordinary, like a Rubik's Cube or something?
Even his hairbrush is cursed, I'm saying. He's got a cursed hairbrush with a thousand souls in it,
which when he combs his hair, it makes sure it doesn't get in his eyes. Like, he's got all sorts
of weird stuff. He's not gotten his third piece of equipment quite yet, though. So we'll wait,
we'll have to wait a little bit for that. But yes, the Needler is quite awesome. Is that all
you wanted to say? I presume? Pretty much. Unless you have anything else to add.
Well, there was one moment where we see that he's actually created serums that affect demons.
You didn't think would be a thing. He shoots the Needler at a keeper of secrets, I believe it was,
and it like basically boils and bubbles and eats itself alive.
Doesn't he get reborn? It has a go at him. He's like, I hate you because you shot me with that
thing last time. Yeah. There's like Fabius in his retinue, and I think it's the second book,
and they're like being confronted by a demon, a grey demon. And they're like, why have you got
such animosity to each other? It's like, I merely shot him with the Needler and he like melted and
he's not really gotten over it. And you're like, oh, okay. He's a slonest demon. I thought it would
turn him on. Like, damn, Chex notes, Brian, let it go. Forgive and forget. Was it keeper of secrets,
Brian? It's just sad. Okay. So, the Legion now on the way to further conquests, Fabius would find
himself in a dire situation. The flesh blight had finally caught up with him, and he reckoned only
a single year remained within his case of flesh. Using elixirs of his making, he would hide his
condition, but it still seeped through. After years of surgery upon himself, his skin had become a
map of stitches. His eyes darkened and he grew gaunt. This must have been a possible point
in which he began his legacy of the Clone Lord as he researched ways to survive. In fact,
he likely performed just as many surgeries on himself as he did his brothers. Fabius would
eventually develop a way of transferring his consciousness to a new body. But the blights
always remained unchangeable and forever clinging to his DNA. This was parallel to the necrons in
a weird way. Like, no matter what you do, it's in your genes now. It's not going away.
And there's, yeah. And I think he's later. I'll talk about the later. That's later in this.
Nevermind. So, spoilers. He didn't do this out of fear of death,
or a need of self-preservation. He simply worked to stay alive so that his work could continue
and one day be complete. He had not yet gained the mindset that he has today,
but Fabius would eventually become almost a father to the future, a benefactor for his new
lineage of creation. More on that later. While this happened, Fulgrim had become fully possessed
by the demon within the Lair Blade. He would execute Eidolon for questioning him, but Fabius
would later reattach the Lord Commander's head to a new body. More importantly, Lucius would see
through the lies of Fulgrim's demon and call a meeting of brothers to exercise it. With the
help of Julius, Marius, and Lucius, the spider is able to devise a way to rid Fulgrim of the entity,
or theoretically at least. So genius and twisted was the apothecary that he gleaned the ability to
inflict unimaginable pain upon the godlike physiology of an actual Primark, which might
not sound crazy, but it's very impressive. Even for Fulgrim as well, for people who
know just of the Primark, a lot of them had unique abilities. And it's said that I think
Fulgrim, out of all of them, his specialty was that he had very, very quick healing,
didn't he, compared to a lot of his brothers. There's a part where it's mentioned they were
like carving, I think a ritual scar or something into him and he had to try and concentrate to
not let his healing outheal him. With his transformation into a big snake creature.
It's like, yeah, the shedding skin parable, like, yeah, he literally transformed because
he's so quick at healing. He shed his prior self to be reborn as whatever he is now.
I like that. He's not listening. Heresy! Heresy! Where is the inquisition? Get the inquisition.
I love when I hear a voice in the corner just going like, let me do bro.
The Fabius books are very nice because you actually get to hear about Fulgrim for the
first time in a billion years of Warhammer novels of 40k. Because they just kind of forgot that he
existed and don't talk about him. So the incredible feat of causing all this pain to the Primark would
actually bring Fulgrim back to his flesh. Fulgrim claims that he could have done it all along,
but it's kind of, it's hard to tell if he's just saying that.
A bit arrogant, isn't he? He could have just said, you know, I'm a bit of a teenager sometimes,
you know, I totally could have done that, I swear.
It might have just been like that. The possession of Fulgrim is a very sad,
sad moment though. So read Fulgrim, it's the best WarSyrrhyse book.
Fulgrim. Indeed.
It's pretty good.
It's very good.
It's tragic.
Eldred's in that one.
He gets his butt kicked.
No.
The tactical.
Eldred himself doesn't, but his buddies, his friends do.
He uses the Joestar secret technique.
Okay.
Connoisseur.
So, with that out of the way, Fabius returned to his work and would retrieve the genetic data
crystal given to Horus from Alphaerius Omegon. This data was corrupted by the Twin Primarchs
because they didn't want to give good stuff to Horus obviously, but they likely underestimated
Fabius's genius. This crystal was the one stolen from Deliverance, which was given to Korax by
the Emperor himself, which pretty much allowed them to create something akin to Primairith
Marines. Yeah. They made raptors. They were able to quickly create Astartes and they were like,
this is going really well. Then the Alpha Legion snuck in and they were like, yeah, let's mess it up.
Big Alpha Legion W. Good stuff.
And then they made the Raven Guard into monsters and they were like, into actual ravens.
It was awesome.
So yeah, the Alpha Legion completely ruined that for them. But anyways, using the crystal
and the information he could get from it, even if it was small, and progenoid glands of fallen
Marines, Baal would devise the secrets of the Emperor himself. As stated before, he resurrected
Eidolon and he would also create his first warrior beasts, naming them the Turata. They were the
result of limbs and genetics from multiple different species combined and attached onto a body.
So they were very, not pretty.
It conjures an image, doesn't it? Just a mess. Just an absolute mess.
Yeah. They're howly monstrosities, each highly unique in some malformed way.
This would be the beginning of yet another of his great paths, eventually evolving into his project
of new men millennia later. His lab would be destroyed with the destruction of the Androneus,
or sorry, Andronechus, which was just the ship that he was on. I think it was Eidolon ship.
Yeah. It's the flagship. Is it the flagship? No, it's not the flagship, but it was like his main ship.
I think it was Eidolon. Yeah. But some of his work was not lost. Two of his Turata remained,
which happened to be some of his original works. They were both once legionaries of the Imperial
Fists, whose lives were now a constant waking nightmare. Sadly for Bio, these two monsters
would retain a glimmer of themselves and destroy much of his genetic samples in a fire. But after
this setback, he would begin research on the genetic knowledge given to Korax with the goal
of creating clones of the Primarchs. Incubation caskets lied in secret, each containing a
Primarch project, the most important at the time containing Horus himself. During the Siege of
Terra, the Emperor's children would completely lose themselves, as we know, to debauchery and
madness, at least for a time. Due to what Fabius claims to be an epiphany, he left Terra shortly
before the traitor's defeat, which would cast him as a traitor to the Legion, abandoning them
at their time of retreat when he was needed most. Pilgrim never forgave him for this. Fabius saw
the futility in their efforts, and while he never disagreed or regretted the choice of betrayal to
the Emperor, he might have not agreed with the whole way that they did it, but he did believe in,
like, he didn't believe in the Emperor, I guess. You know what I mean.
Jason. Maybe you saw him like a rival, in a way.
Ferocious. Yeah.
Jason. Well, I mean, with the whole, his whole bitterness with the end of the Horus heresy,
I've got a pretty good quote here, if that helps. How would you like to read this one?
Ferocious. Absolutely. Hit me with it. I'll try not to ruin it, shall we say.
Jason. This is about like the end of the Horus heresy, his bitterness, and like,
just not liking the ruinous powers in general. Ferocious. This won't be a Fabius Bile voice,
but this will be me. Let's just say.
Victory slipped through our fingers, the moment Horus chose to reach into the dark,
and something reached back. We sacrificed our ambitions on the altar of his hubris,
and when he fell, he dragged us all down, inextricably with him. And not just Horus,
Fulgrim as well, and Angron, Magnus, Lorgar. The gods you worship are nothing, say, lies,
hidden behind marks of folklore and superstition. Interdimensional cancers, their mindless hunger,
confused for sentience among the lost and the damned.
They're happy about it.
Yeah, no, he's definitely not. Definitely a bit smug, I have to say. A little bit like, you know,
primitives, you know what I mean?
I mean, part of him is right. They probably could have won the heresy if they didn't.
Become so corrupted by chaos.
You just work together.
Yes, Lorgar was probably like literally the only guy who benefited at all from the ruinous powers.
But everyone else got kind of screwed.
What a guy, that's for sure.
As much as I love chaos, as much as I'm a big chaos guy, gotta admit, they definitely kind of
screwed us on beating the emperor. We should have won the heresy.
What a swell gentleman, Lorgar, though. I can agree, can't we?
I like it.
The gentleman and the scholar.
I actually like Lorgar.
I like how flawed he is. Fulgrim, same to me as with Fulgrim as well. Fulgrim is a very
enjoyable Primarch because he's so deeply flawed as a character. He's so just riddled with insecurity,
which obviously, let's be honest, we can all relate.
So he, I find him...
Just like a real for real.
You're a bit too deep there, man. A bit too deep.
I suppose we'll talk about the Primarchs in more videos.
Definitely, yes.
Yeah, he left the traitors and they were not happy with him.
Fabius was not completely separated from the Legion quite yet, though.
It is rumored that many of the Terran population were taken as prisoners and given to bile.
In an act of pure evil, the Spider would process these civilians into chemicals to be ingested.
So Horde would bile acts that Vulcan, Primarch of the Salamanders, vowed to bring him to justice.
Now, the Salamanders would hunt Fabius during the scouring as the Spider's warband grew ever larger.
By giving his services to many desperate planetary overlords, genetic corruption and degradation
followed wherever the Clone Lord went as he provided defenders with fast acting enhancements,
legions of clones and far worse.
Through the Spider's web, the Salamanders tracked Fabius,
their fury driving them past any other tasks.
They ignored a large amount of distress calls actually,
and they kind of just sped through everything just to kill Fabius.
I'm not saying something for the Salamanders who are like,
oh, the cat's up the tree, we'll help you, don't worry about it.
And they're like, nope, we cannot help you.
More important to do that is a DEF CON.
Gotta swat a spider.
Yep. So upon the planet of Arden Nine, which by all my planet fall upon to aid a rebellious
governor, the Apothecary gave this man grand and horrible enhancements to his troops in
exchange for the harvest of genetic material.
This is where the Salamanders would finally catch up to him,
and every one of his labs upon the planet were put to the torch.
Fabius would escape though, sorry Vulcan,
releasing all of his muting creations upon the 18th Legion and fleeing on his hidden ship.
In a flash of light, the vessel's warp drives lit and he was gone.
Damaged, the ship would slowly drift towards the Eye of Terror until eventually landing upon
a demon world.
Once inhabited by the Eldar, this world would be known as Urum,
and would eventually become his main headquarters.
There's a nice space marine W for all the Eldar haters.
Oh no.
Oh, it was no W, he's scrounging for the betters.
He's in someone else's better house.
Well, we can thank the Eldar for our nice, cozy Eye of Terror, I suppose.
Oof. Big oof on that one.
Yeah, I got nothing for that one.
Cruffles did no wrong, that's what I have to say to that one.
Ah, Exoddites did no wrong.
Do you know, I'm imagining just very, this is a completely rogue thought, but it's,
you ever see in the UK, there are some programs with usually a bald guy who's like,
I'm here on crime invasion.
And I'm just imagining a little documentary where it was like, here we find Fabius and
he had to recreate the story of how he just breaks in, him looking through the Eldar windows and
just like, he breaks in.
Geez, that's funny.
Fabius Biles confirmed in your walls.
Yeah, literally.
Why are the walls vibrating, and flanking?
Eww.
Okay. So, despite his earlier abandonment, many would still flock to Bile, and he slowly
amassed one of the largest warbands of Emperor's children to date. Sadly, though, this would be
one of the last few times the Third had any glint of unification. The remnants of the Legion War
would plunder the other Trader Worlds to maintain their upkeep of slaves, because their slave
attrition rate was unsurprisingly very large. They ran out of them very quickly.
Oh, their extracurricular activities, they weren't exactly nice to them, were they?
Yeah, they have like volleyball and other fun sports, except like the volleyball is the slave,
and he's like crumpled up into the walls.
I'll go, they were demonetized, I'll just say. They were demonetized.
Actually, one of my favorite creations…
Favorite?
Demontized Rip. But in one of the Fabius books, he goes to talk to the Radiant King,
which I guess we'll talk about later, but he sits upon a throne which is made out of two
human beings stitched together, and they are forced to always… they're twins,
and they always look at each other, but I think their eyes were also plucked out.
He also has an organ that when he presses a button, it's also made out of people,
and when he presses the button, one of the people emits a certain pitch of scream,
and so he plays music on his organ of human beings.
Yo, that's pretty much…
Fabius didn't even make those either, that was part of his consortium, one of the bros.
One of the bros.
Question, what, like, Colin and Hal and Eli, what do you reckon they play? What music?
If you were to pick a song that would be fitting.
David Bowie.
Through the Fire and the Flame.
The Dragon Force.
I'd like to see that.
Starman, it has to be Starman, because I think it fits really well.
Starman waiting in the sky, can't sing it, obviously.
Jeez, okay, we better get back on track here.
They plundered worlds for slaves, and Fabius would actually rise to become a very great commander
in this time, as the Legion unified around him.
He wasn't doing space dust.
He was like the only, well, sane is not the right word at all.
He's the only sane guy left in the means that he wasn't like drug addicted.
And he's wearing a jacket made of human skin, and he's the sane one.
This gave them strength in their most disastrous hour.
His greatest scheme of that time, though, would begin with the plan to steal Horus's body
from the sons of Horus's fortress known as Lupercalios.
So Fabius led an assault, unleashing the third upon the 16th, and would successfully come into
possession of the body and begin his work.
He would reunite the Legions.
They would be led by a new leader, one not blinded by the gods, one with a real sense of purpose.
Fabius would recreate Horus as he was meant to be.
Yet, even for the lawless and debauched Chaos Space Marines,
cloning a space marine was too far.
It was pure heresy.
Even from these guys.
Cloning a Primarch.
Cloning a Primarch was on a whole other level of whims.
Horus Reborn would be the end to the Legion Wars, and would give them a mortal leader
who could leave the immaterium without the pull of the gods, because now all the Primarchs
who are demons are under the influence of the Chaos Gods, and they're not going to be
as powerful outside of the warp as they are in real space, I suppose.
Basically.
Basically. Cloned Horus has a really good credit score, and there's no, you know, debt.
Yeah. Yeah. But this didn't matter to the renegades.
And Alliance was formed by multiple space marines of different Legions.
They actually, a bunch of people put aside their differences because of how bad they
thought this was going to be. And they even got Abaddon in line to be buddies.
And he was like, check out my cool museum, bruh.
And you're like, uh, can you stop messing around, Abaddon? Come on.
And so it was a Thousand Sons guy and an Abaddon, and then a bunch of other dudes.
But Thousand Son was pretty important.
Oh yeah.
Because it led an assault of incredible destruction upon the Third Legion's world,
known as Harmony, which Fabius was on at the time. A two kilometer, eight megaton ship
filled with warheads was psychically flung at the surface, obliterating the capital city,
and nearly everything else.
And it was towed by the fact, the Thousand Son basically was like, I'm just going to
sit on the bridge and like psychically tow this massive thing through like, uh, travel
to the planet and then just like lob it at them.
Yeah.
What's his name though?
Yo, look at that swirl. Was it when you throw an American football?
What was it called? Look at that spiral.
Yo, check out my spiral.
So Fabius had to partake in the evacuation, obviously, but his ship was pretty much his
lab at the time. So it wasn't like a big deal, but his ship was boarded by the alliance of
traders, including Abaddon. They actually had thought Biles' experiments would take
years, if not decades, to even find a glimmer of success. What they saw though, proved them
utterly wrong. The chief apothecary had done it. Vats upon Vats slid into the ship, each containing
some form of horrifying malformed clone primark. Some though, were not as bad as others.
Regardless, as Fabius approached the invaders and parlayed with them,
Abaddon would order his forces to open fire and destroy the abominations that lay before them.
There was one though, that they did not see in the room. The greatest feat of bioengineering
the galaxy had seen since the time of the emperor and perhaps the empires of old.
A perfectly cloned Horus Lupercal, untouched by the warp, uncorrupted by the gods. He would
slaughter the space marines, yet when he confronted Abaddon, the new war master would
prove his rightful place. In one of the few moments of good writing for what is supposed
to be the arch enemy of man, Abaddon caught Worldbreaker as Horus swung it down. He held
it in place with his talon and crumpled it in his grip, then sinking his gauntlet into the false
Horus' chest. This would allow Fabius time to escape, but he would never forgive Abaddon for
his reckless foolish act of pride. And he kills him with his own talon,
the talon of Horus, and that's why when he's like, hey look, I've killed this thing, it killed
Horus again, the second Horus, and it wounded the emperor, and it killed Sangui. This is a pretty
like, and every death makes it kind of more tainted and more evil. And I found the name of the thousand
sun, it was Iskandar Kion, the king breaker from the thousand suns. Is that the guy who is in the
black legion? Yeah, he's like the one who like kind of corralled everyone and was like Horus,
stop showing us all your showing off from I went to this place and I killed a big thing. It's like,
yeah, yeah, I don't care. Black Legion, what's up with that? Let's form a band, a band of warriors,
if you will. Yeah, they're awesome books. Talon of Horus was one of my first few books into 40k,
and I loved it. Yeah. Those are really cool characters too. It has nothing to do with
Fabius Vile, but still he's cool. And he's like a thousand suns assassin kind of guy,
if I remember correctly. We'll have a video on him one day. Definitely. Yeah. I think that
of just very quickly, I was going to mention, because Fabius, when he clones this Horus,
so this is implied to be like the seizure terror failed like centuries ago. Yeah. And Horus has
not been seen, you know, Horus is a corpse. Horus got crumped. He's not even a corpse,
he's like not even dust. He doesn't have, he's not here anymore. He's gone. But he's, it's implied,
well, it's implied that Fabius, even though he clones Horus, there's something not quite right
with this Horus, is it? Because I think it's generally implied that the emperor literally
destroyed Horus' soul. So this Horus is just like, he's like the physical clone of Horus,
but he's not like as powerful as like the true Horus. It's like that song, it's like, isn't it
ironic when you need a fork, but you've only got a spoon. Oh, that's Horus. Yeah. When you really
need a warm-ass and you just got this. Yeah. I mean, I mean, like Abaddon killed him. So obviously,
if your son can kill the Primarch, then it's probably not the best Primarch, right? But not,
not perfect clone. It was as close as he could get at the time. He does make a perfect clone,
eventually though, which we'll talk about later. And it makes me very sad to talk about. But
this act of destroying harmony would lead to the breaking of the Third Legion as they all scattered,
fleeing their now destroyed world. It was also the beginning of the Black Legion and the reign
of Abaddon as Warmaster of Chaos. But we're not talking about Abaddon today. Many, we will eventually,
I hope, even though everyone hates him, but whatever. Many would blame Fabius for this
scattering of the Legion. And in a sense, it was his fault. But Fulgrim would even place a bounty
on the chief apothecary's head, yet none have ever claimed it. Fabius was widely hated or desired.
Whoever did not wish him dead, wished him in chains for their own benefits. His services,
though, were still widely needed as they were still the greatest anyone could offer. So Baal
was not completely lost or defeated. And the apothecaries themselves were a very dying breed
in the Chaos. So any apothecary they get was a win, but Fabius was the apothecary. But he was
largely needed in the creation of Space Marines, obviously, and the recovering of Gene Seed from
Fallen Brothers. He created a shaky and influential deal with the forces of Chaos, Space Marines,
not the gods, which he agreed to share his secrets with the many legions, yet he would never be
shackled or dedicated to one. It is largely due to Fabius that the Long War still exists.
Queen Spore of the Dark Mechanicum would allow Baal the resources to rebuild his medicae equipment.
Over the millennia, he would create what is now known as the Consortium, a large group of
apothecaries who would seek out or follow the spider due to his genius. Upon Ulum, they would
reside within Fabius's great palace. Andy, do you have anything to say about the fellows?
What about the bros? The bros of the apothecary. I've got a kind of a list of all the different
folks from the Consortium. Are you guys interested in hearing about the main figures of such?
I feel like we're going to get more cursed as the list goes down.
It's not too bad. It's more like a weird rose gallery. So like starting off with...
We're layer on us. So first we've got like, I think probably like the equivalent of Fabius's
like lieutenant is Ariane Zorzi, who is a world eaters apothecary. Very skilled fighter.
He reckons he's overcome the insanity of the butchers nails, but
he still hears the voices of the people he killed. So not too sure about that.
But he's kind of like his... Fabius's enforcer. Like it's pretty reliable to have a 10,000 year
old world eater as your like bodyguard, you know, and especially one who has a strange
resistance to the butchers nails, shall we say. Korag Sin is a death guard apothecary,
who is one of Calis Typhon's grave wardens. Fun fact about him. He has a pet, Pazuz.
How fun is this?
Pazuz is like this... Sorry, Colin.
I just said what kind of pet are we talking about?
Yeah, like...
Where's his go?
The nice cuddly kind.
He's described as a hulking beast that could like rip anything's throat out. But...
And it spits acid. But he's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
very acid. But he enjoys playing and serves both Singe's guardian and pet. So he's like
the consortium like throwing him bones and he comes and like, play fetch, my weird hulking
creature of doom. And that's quite fun. And yeah, Korag Sin, he's like he's... He wears like a
diseased suit of Terminator armor. Fabius doesn't like him much. But he was very helpful when
Fabius was trying to transfer basically his brain into a new clone body. So, you know, he has his
uses. Where's my favorite? My favorite is Simisci's. Yeah, Simisci's Flay is an iron warrior
apothecary. And he was in exile and he took avow silence. And in the... I think it's the first
book, which I think is... Is the first book Clone Lord Eli? Or is that the second book?
First book is Primogenitor.
First book is Primogenitor. I think it's the first book. Yeah. He... The whole book, he doesn't say
anything. And he just kind of like... But there's another character called Oleander, Oleander Coe,
who's an Emperor's children apothecary, who looks up to Fabius as part of his own. He's like the only
one in the consortium from the Emperor's children. And he's always looked up to Fabius as like
his mentor. And he... Like Oleander served under Bael for a while. Then he left and then he came
back. And he came back because he basically wants Fabius to lead the third legion as like their new
like war... Like their equivalent of war master. And he kind of orchestrates the whole first book
is like him trying to bring him back as like... As like... He's like, take charge of that. And we
won't say what happens in that regard if... Well, Eli... Oh, I'm good. Oh, okay. Well, Eli will say it.
And like Oleander, when things are... The cogs are in gear and in motion,
Samiskis is the first one to like stand with Oleander and say like, he puts his hand on his
shoulder and kind of nods and is like... He does like that Lord of the Rings thing where he's like,
we will take the ring to Mordor. The equivalent. And Samiskis is the first who's like, yeah, I'll
stand with you. And he gets killed. And before he dies, he says his last words to Oleander. And it's
like, oh, he had like... Samiskis was my favorite because he had like a kind of honorableness. And
even though he had a vile silence, he also had like a good heart as weird as that is to sound
from a traitor. He's a nice guy. What did he say? Like clear my search history.
Brother, clear my search history. And there's a few others. There's like Scarlet Grimm,
Fa, who's the sons of Horus, Apothecary. He was a Reaver for Aberdon. But I like to finish it on
the Samiskis because he was my favorite character from the books, at least from the consortium.
Yes. Thank you, Andy. Small notes to mention that I haven't said yet. Fabius loves music,
especially orchestral classical music. And he can often be heard listening to symphonies of old as
he works. He has Eldari music and some of the oldest music and sometimes even listens to
Bekakinska's Blessed. Bekakinska, yeah. The one who ruins the third legion.
Now, I do have a question about that. Because, you know, Warhammer is quite a ways into the future.
Do you think it'd be a big stretch to say that classical music would include death metal?
I feel like there's like symphonies. It does say symphonies. So I think you would count it
as like actual classical music. I just like to him. I pitch him to things like Filthy Frank
or something. I can imagine the world eaters being big fans of Cannibal Corpse and then like
a thousand sons of big Opeth fans and everyone's got their own thing.
I think Empress Children are like Britney because it's Britney.
I always listen to Avril Lavigne. They're like baby metal.
I guess we can't say that.
Girlfriend is the best Empress Children song by Avril Lavigne. It's great. Anyways.
I love you Avril Lavigne. I love you.
That's the official stance of law crimes. We are big friends. I'd be glad to come out and confess.
You're welcome to the podcast.
The second legion loves me. That's why we don't hear about them.
Okay. So, so, Urm would become home to legions of mutants created by the clone lord and his
consortium. They would see Fabius as the great benefactor, a god actually, even though Bile at
the time saw them as nothing. They would come to call him Potter Mutatus, which I don't actually
know what it means, but it's something- Is that Harry Potter reference again?
I mean, the second one is not a mutation. Is it like-
It's like father mutation. Mutation or something like that.
You're an apothecary Potter.
Yeah.
I'm a what?
We've done that twice now on law crimes.
We have. We are always bringing back the Harry Potter references.
So, over the years, Fabius would eventually come to show some form of compassion and care for his
mutants in some sense. He does say at one point that he doesn't care if they live at the time,
but he cares about them being in the future. So, he says something along the lines of he'll kill one
to save 10 in the future. He'll kill a million to save a billion. He'll kill a billion to save a
trillion type of things. So, I think he more cares about what they see in progress.
He doesn't care about individuals.
Yes. But I mean, there are some moments where he's very nice.
There are tender moments with him in his favor. I can't remember a name, but his favored child.
Is it the one he calls his daughter?
Yeah. Oh, sorry. Milicin.
Yeah.
No, I think he's a, I find that he's obviously a, it's like very similar to when he begun
with his own Legion, isn't it? He was willing to cull so many just to save the greater,
if you know what I mean, he doesn't care about the individual.
It's like George Lucas. It's like poetry. They rhyme, you know.
Wow.
For today's Fabius, they're known as Vatborn and they aid him in his work,
usually acting as assistants in his labs. He enjoys speaking to them quite a lot,
although it is unsure how much they understand, but they certainly always listen.
The books, like when they describe what they look like, they're like monsters. But when
Fabius talks to them, they like sound really cute, like little assistant guys.
Yeah. They're like childlike in the way they approach the world.
They literally have like the cognizance of like a seven to 10 year old, I'd say.
Like, daddy told us to do this and we have daddy.
Yeah.
I don't know how that hits me. I'm not gonna lie. It feels a bit,
depends on how the parlance, what parlance you use the term daddy with,
but you know, we won't delve too much into that. Anyway, Fabius doesn't believe in sound.
Save it.
Okay. So not all of his creations are horrid mutants though. These early days would be the
beginning of perhaps his greatest and most important creation known as the gland hounds
or new men, which was the result of partial gene seed implantation. So not full space marine,
but they're still hulking men and women who are part of Fabius' plan for a new age of man.
They can mess up, Astartes.
They can, if there's lots of them at least, but they're stronger, faster,
and more keen than a regular human, but not so much as a space marine. But this is purposeful,
for unlike the Adeptus Astartes, they keep their humanity and theirs is a far more stable version
of the gene seed. More than this though, they are designed with the intent of hunting space marines,
operating in packs and hounding Astartes, tearing them apart. They are also practiced in the act
of harvesting gene seed, which is a skill highly desired by all legions and warbands.
Fabius has a fatherly love for these creations in particular. In one moment, we even see him arrive
on their level of his ship, only to kneel down and outstretch his arms as the children come
running towards him. He then listens to each one of them and sends them on their way.
Very cute Fabius. The greatest of the Glandhounds is Igorie, the mother of her generation,
and once leader of their tribe. So they do have kids, we should say. They're not all,
I don't think they're all that born. Just in case you forgot, the Frankenstein parallels.
Yeah. Yeah.
The wholesomeness is not coming back.
It was short-lived. Igorie wears a necklace of Astartes teeth,
and was Fabius' favorite. The most notable of the consortium is Oviander of the Emperor's children,
which we talked about a little bit before. He was once a student of Biel, but had left his clutches
in exiles years ago, only to return, bringing the apothecary news. And now we get into spoilers
for the three novels. This thing he does where, like, in the whole books, he calls him master,
and Biel is like, don't call me master. I'm not your master anymore. And he's like, no, master.
How about daddy?
Oviander is a pretty cool character, but we got to talk about Fabius. So the news that he
brings the apothecary is that of an isolated and ripe Aldarii craft world. He claims a space marine
going by the name of the Radiant was leading the attack and pleaded Biel to join. This Radiant was
Casparis Telmar, an Astartes who had lived in the times of the Old Legion. Oviander was chief
apothecary to his war band and held position in his elite circle known as the Joy Band.
So too did he desire apotheosis, the Radiant desired apotheosis, through consuming those very
tasty Eldar souls for Slaanesh. Indeed. This is all part of a ploy for Oliander, though,
because he was actually working with Harlequins in a mutual agreement of fate. More on that later.
More on that later. We are also introduced to Fabius's evil and infamous weapon,
Torment. Andy, Andy can describe Torment to us.
The Rod of Torment. The Rod of Torment is a demon forged weapon, which we've all seen the images of
him with like a cane, and it's got a skull and it's a shaft. The skull is from a demon prince called
Shalak Klan. Right. And this thing. Shalak Klan. That's a bit of a whiplash with that name.
Yeah. This weapon isn't like great at killing people, but it's really good at inflicting pain.
Like if you just kind of like, like caress the cane on your skin, the whole body would writhe
in pain. And it's so effective at causing pain that yeah, like there's like a passage where
Fabius is torturing Slaanesh, it's like, and then he's like, I barely touched you, like calm down.
And he's like, it'll get much worse. And since again, it's time in the Eye of Terror, it has
been some, it has become somewhat sentient, just like his backpack. So it also has a mind of its
own. And it kind of, it's almost like a feral dog. Fabius has to collar it and allow it to release
some of its tendencies to inflict pain in order to control it, because it has a mind of its own.
Does it also have little, little cane children as well?
No, no, no. As far as I could tell, the Rod of Torment has never been a mother, but you know,
it is a sick bib cane though.
It's a bachelor weapon of chaos.
Glad it finally got brought up, I knew the one thing I knew about it was sick cane.
When he uses it in the books, it describes it, when it touches people, it like shrieks in pleasure
as it causes them. Like the worst pain you could ever imagine times a billion.
Yeah, this whole episode is uncomfortable, dudes.
The backpack is a great way to see it.
The more I listen to it, the more it's just like, oh, he seems like, oh, he's worse.
But you're a fan of the Emperor's children as well. You got no excuse.
He's not really, he's like, we're a rogue. He's his own thing.
He's the reason they still exist. Come on. He's not really, he's his own entity.
You can't pick and choose your Legion members.
Yes. Okay. Was that all you had to say about Torment Andy?
Pretty much. Yeah. It's just like, it's cool.
I haven't mentioned it yet, so now is a good time to talk about it.
Despite all that Fabius has seen and done, he still holds true to the ideals of the great crusade.
There are no gods. There are no demons. He sees them as nothing but hallucinations,
multi-dimensional personalities, and simple beings who only exist because of the belief of others.
They are nothing to him, and he staunchly ignores them and denies their existence as gods.
He goes as far to talk to a keeper of secrets to their face and says that they're not real,
and tells that it's just a hallucination and that it's fake. He's what every guy on R slash
atheism wished they could be. I know we all do, but...
Whatever good atheists wish they could be. He's like the Paterapo meme. He's like,
gods are cringe. He's just like, oh, you. Yeah, you. Keeper of secrets. Come here. Come here.
Come here. Cringe. Yeah. Oh, Fabius.
Mm-hmm. Indeed. But anywho, about Oleander and that stuff, his words would be heeded by Bile.
For we must remember, even after all this time, the Blight still haunts his body. No matter how
many clones he inhabits, no matter how many times he puts on new flesh, it is always there.
And in Oleander's proposition... It is getting worse.
Yeah. In his proposition, he sees one possible solution to free himself of the agonizing process,
and this is through wraith bone and spirit stones, which was the technology the Eldar used
to keep their spirits in a little stone, called a spirit stone, and they can use wraith bone
to make guys a wraith guard and wraith lords, which is basically a dreadnought, but really fancy.
And the spirit stone with the guy's soul in it is just put it with the wraith bone,
and then that's the person, basically. Very interesting how humanity...
Hashtag wraith bile. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to hear it.
I don't want to hear it. The elder.
Well, thankfully, the rich kids of the galaxy. The rich kids of the galaxy are going to be
being consumed soon here. So...
Fabius allows Oleander to plead his case to the consortium, and someone... Who wants to read
their next quote? I did the...
Colin, maybe? I think I did the long...
Colin, why don't you read this one? If it's about...
What is this about, though? This is what Colin... What is this what he says to the...
I'm sorry, to Oleander. All right. You will present your proposition
to the consortium as a whole. If some among them find merit in your proposal, then I shall
take such action as I deem best. If none among the consortium are interested in your proposal,
I shall break you down into raw components and forget your name.
That is a raw line. Damn.
Yeah. He's awesome. He's brutal. So, in the end, as we said earlier,
three other Marines agree to the proposal. One unwillingly, Brother Sumiskes of the Iron Warriors,
Saqqara of the Word Bears, and Aryan of the World Eaters, travel with Oleander to parlay
with a Marine known as the Radiant King. Saqqara was the unwilling, as he had been captured by
Bial many years ago. He was part of the Word Bears' kill team, and Saqqara was the only one left
alive. Fabius captured him and implanted a bomb in his chest, as well as something around 100
other failstafes. He has Saqqara in his grip at all times. Saqqara hates him, but he doesn't hate
everything about him. In the third book, he describes their relationship as a whetstone
and a sword. Saqqara is a very pious word bear, and he will always have little debates with
Fabius about the gods. It's this fun little parallel they have. He's in eternal servitude,
and they actually caught him multiple times cutting open his chest to take the bomb out.
He's almost done it a couple times, but not yet.
Mason- I love that idea about it just catches him in the corner. It's like,
oh, he's got a guilty look on his face. When your four year old has opened the jar of Nutella and
is just wolfing it down with their hands, and instead of Nutella, it's a bomb. And instead of
the other hand, it's blood. And they're just like, like a guilty look on his face.
Saqqara- Oh, I'm so shocked. You're a sheepish about it.
Mason- I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed. Leave the bomb in the chest.
Saqqara- I will say Saqqara is not actually an apothecary either. He's a demonologist.
He has lots of little demons and vials and stuff. It's very cool. He helps them a lot in their
journeys, but demons aren't real. Remember, Fabio said so.
Mason- The Emperor's children has the demons in a jar. That can only end well.
Saqqara- Okay. So first, this little group of guys stop at the world of Sublime,
a planet which lies in between reality and unreality at all times as it's part of the eye.
They travel a path known as the Carrion Road, a warped hair, which would bring them to the
planet while bypassing its outer defenses. On this incredibly dangerous path, they are bordered by
demons, including the Keeper of Secrets. Fabius defends himself against the demon and literally
denies its existence, as I said before, writing her off as this hallucination. It does, however,
deliver a message from Fulgrim, then dies as Fabius shoots it in the eye with his needler,
and a gnaw talks and courses through it, tearing the being from the inside out.
Mason- And we do see a lot that the gods seemingly have an interest in Fabius,
at least at some way or another. Demons talk to him quite a lot, even though Fabius will always
deny it. It's a very big part of Fabius' character that he kind of goes against fate. He doesn't
believe in fate and he denies any part that he's supposed to play in the game of reality. He makes
the harlequins a little grumpy. Mason- I think he's mentioned several times as being favored
by the gods of the ruinous powers. They're like, we like you, but that's… He's like, no, cringey.
Indeed. There are some things revealed to him later on. But eventually they make
planetfall upon the gunship known as Butcher Bird, Fabius' personal semi-sentient transport.
It's a very, very awesome machine. It's just this bloodthirsty, like Thunderhawk type of gunship.
I don't know what the exact gunship is, but it's said that when people go out of it, they have to
give it a wide berth, because if it gets grumpy, it'll just kill them if it's within its guns range.
Mason- What is going on? Bro, he's got a sentient backpack, a sentient pimp cane, and a sentient Thunderbird. Too many things have got opinions.
Mason- He's got a grumpy stormbird or something.
Mason- He's so grumpy.
Mason- He's got a malevolent teacup, and if you put the wrong kind of liquids in it, if you put like,
you know, like Baileys in it, it just spits it at you in your eyes.
Bro- The non-sentient poop knife.
Mason- Oh my god. I forgot that that exists.
Okay, okay. So at the end of Planet of Sublime, they go to Mark, and they do a bunch of stuff,
but they capture, most importantly, they capture a Corsair, which was their main goal, because they
need something to help them get to Lulunos in the Craftworld. But they do battle a troop of
Harlequins. Well, they're trying to get them. Oleander speaks with the Shadow Seer, frustrated
at their intervention, but the seer reveals they know of the Radiant's intentions, and that this
is all part of the plan, or the performance, as they say. They deem Fabius as the King of Feathers,
and seem to say that he will unite the Legion once again. Oleander gives them Caspross,
and they give him a new Baile. Caspross is the Radiant King.
Oh, yeah. They would also meet an individual known as Mordrek, just a fun little guy in the lore,
I guess. He was the reason Fabius wanted to take the Carrion Road, to bypass the defenses,
so he didn't know that they were there, but he finds them anyways. This space marine was Lord
of the Planet, and had been blessed, or in his case, cursed with immortality. Butcher Bird would
blow him to bits before they would leave, yet he would eventually reform. Baile reveals the reason
for the hatred given to him by Mordrek was not simply due to the tormentous experiments he
performed upon the man, but because he failed to kill him. Next, we see another creation of Baile
upon his ship, while he has the captured Eldari. This creation is known as the Mind Worm.
He uses this centipede-like device to extract information from their captured Eldar's mind.
It copies the host's mind completely, compiling their thoughts, dreams, and more.
I can only think of the little robot in Star Wars.
I remember when I heard this, it reminded me of the path of heaven, there's a white scar being
tortured by Mortarion, and he uses a similar thing where it burrows into his skull.
I remember thinking, I've heard something similar before, but it's a bit less cruel.
And it is a good invention, because space marines can eat brains to gain their knowledge,
but this is very wasteful in Fabius' eyes. This way he can retain the information for when he
needs it, and compile it as data. This is how they find the route to the craft world of Luganneth.
With this complete, they arrive at the Radiant King's flagship, and Fabius would ask for an
alliance with Caspiros. Oleander had told a small lie previously that the Radiant King had ordered
him to speak with Fabius, but nonetheless Bile wins the legionary over with the promise of souls.
He takes bright green matter from multiple captured psykers, and combines it with graphs
from the captured Eldar. Together, he creates the psychic organs required to mask the fleet
from the craft world until it is too late for the Xenos. He needs a host, though, and a tough one
at that. So he takes a noise marine from the Radiant ship, and uses their modified physiology
in plants one named Alien, who had originally been one of Bile's original cacophony. In an arduous
and slimy process, the consortium successfully completes the surgery and has him linked to the
ship. This would work extremely well in the combined forces. The psychic implant they give
to him basically makes him able to mask the ship. But it's such an incredibly arduous task that they
need someone very, very tough. And noise marines are very, very tough. They handle a lot of vibration
They play a lot of guitar here, right? Yes, they do. I love noise marines.
But they approach the craft world, and they attack them before they can suitably react.
Within Butcherburg, Fabius descends with his consortium and his gland hounds and a group of
Astartes from the Radiant's forces. He quickly reaches his objective, that of a wraithbone
garden. But before he can gain his prize, the Shadow Seer and her Harlequins manifest and attack.
During a duel with the seer, Fabius is shown thousands of possible futures, with only one option for survival.
He must take on the mantle of command if he wished to persevere. If he did not, he would die.
Whether from an enemy or the Blight, he would perish. But by sheer force of will, and to keep
her a secret, Bile's retinue would survive the attack and his prize of wraithbone would be claimed.
The Radiant would begin the ascension to Demon Hood, but would be slain by the Harlequins.
He still got to eat lots of tasty souls, though, don't worry.
Before escaping onto Butcherburg, Samiskis would sacrifice himself to save Oleander.
Speaking the first and only word you ever hear him say as he lay dying, he speaks the word,
brother. A word not spoken truly by any of the Chaos Space Marines in these dark days.
It was a glimmer of hope for their future. The Harlequins would speak to Fabius and Oleander
again right before they leave, though, and their ploy is revealed. In a very tragic moment for the
Third Legion, Bile rejects the words of both Oleander and the Xenos, claiming they simply
want to clamp him down to the Legion, bringing him the great burden of responsibility and taking
him off the path of his important work. Staying true to himself, the primogenitor changes fate
and goes off script, something that deeply disturbs the Harlequins of the Laughing God.
They withdraw, but Fabius leaves Oleander behind for his betrayal, not executing him only because
of his past service. He takes possession of the Radiance Cruiser and leaves. This is not the end
of the Harlequins, though, and it is not the end of Oleander, for the Harlequins will continue to
haunt the edges of Fabius' reality. For a few centuries, Fabius continues his research and
wards off predators within the eye until much of his lackeys decide on a revolt. They continue to
assault the Vesalius, Fabius' flagship, and at the time of the revolt, Bile is undergoing a transference,
which as we said, Korag was helping with. So Arion is left in command to subdue the traitors.
Together, the World Eater leading the Consortium and Glanhound successfully ward off the rebellion
for a time, but this is a very stark reminder to Fabius of his ever-creepy mortality. The
Cacophony also remain loyal to the Spider, and Fabius resumes command once the cerebral transference
is complete. He promises an ancient hero of the chapter, Dreadnaught Daomat, with blessed death,
gaining his aid and the uprising is crushed. Bile then leads his warband to a dead craft world,
using his new project. His biggest project at the time was a Wraithbone Garden,
which was grown after Luganeth, of course. And in its midst, since the Eldar Corsair they had
once captured all those centuries ago, but he is no longer an Eldar Corsair, he is now named Key,
and has acted as a psychic conductor for Fabius. The Wraithbone has grown around and inside of the
poor Eldar, but he seems to, it's hard to describe, he's not the same thing he once was, and he's
seemingly, him and the Noisemareans actually hang out in the Wraith Garden, and they all sing their
song. So upon this dead craft world, they plunder what they can, but are ambushed again by Harlequins,
because they just won't leave him alone. And also, Corsairs of the Sumblis Brotherhood,
which was the group Key had hailed from. After a desperate battle, they are rescued,
if you can call it that, by Lord Commander Eidolon's forces. So these books are awesome,
because you get to see the Emperor's Children character, finally. But other than Lucius,
I guess, because he has a book. But this attachment is led by a marine named Flavius, Flavius, a very
Emperor's Children-y name, I think. And he's-
They have frosted tips. He serves with the Phoenix Guard. They have to
surrender to him and are escorted to the Broken World of Harmony, because the world still exists,
even after the 8 Megaton explosion. He confronts Eidolon, who informs Flavius of a message he also
received from Fulgrim. This was delivered through Melisandri, Flavius's flesh and blood creation,
who was actually made from his literal flesh and blood. She's literally his daughter, which is neat.
But unfortunately for Favius, she was taken by Fulgrim a long time ago and is now basically a
demonic entity. Well, she is a demonic entity, but she haunts a lot of the Glandhounds,
as she talks to Eidolon, obviously. In the third book, she talks a lot to Oleander and becomes
very active, talking to Favius as well, trying to get him to meet up with Fulgrim. These guys really
want them to get back together, but Favius just never has any of it, unfortunately.
Mason- He's getting hounded, man.
Angus Yeah, everyone wants a piece of Favius in the book,
seriously. They're all after him.
Mason- He's just in the corner like,
leave me alone. Everyone's like, but the experiments.
Angus So the message from Fulgrim was a gathering of might, a reunion of the great and powerful
lords and rulers of the third legion. But he must undergo a test and a powerful demonic mutant
emerges who frees his time and shows Favius the face and depth of the gods. So he, like,
in a sense, he literally sees Slanesh. At least how it's described is how I think it happened.
But Biles and Kare, he denies what he sees and the demon resumes time.
Mason- I've been given this opportunity, he's like, I don't care. It's cringe.
Angus It's kind of like someone going, like,
being shown a piece of art and just being like, nah, it doesn't look nice. I just don't
know. Mason- Imagine if someone was just like, hey, look,
here is literally God's face. What do you think? He's like, take it or leave it.
Mason- Really?
Angus Six out of ten.
Mason- The demon does, though, kind of, I think it was this demon. It was a demon at some point.
So he reveals, or at least implies, that the reason the flesh blade exists is like almost
because of the chaos gods, sort of. He seems to try to tell Favius that he's very intertwined
with Slaanesh and the gods and that the reason for a lot of his things is because of them.
Favius doesn't care, still. But as acting, sorry, and the demon deems him not guilty,
which is the main purpose of the test, was to find a punishment for him.
And Eidolon and all of his buddies are around and they get very unhappy about this.
But Eidolon lets him go anyways. Mason- Trying to stitch him up.
Angus Commander Eidolon tells him he needs to
undergo a task to completely prove himself, kind of, and also just to do his duty.
And this was to find the lost gene tithe that we talked about a long time ago.
So as chief apothecary, it was his duty to retrieve this. In return,
Eidolon would give him the protection of the third legion from all enemies, including Abaddon.
He agrees, and is then permitted to enter his old laboratory. While it was almost completely
destroyed and scavenged, a small sect of mutants descending from his path,
would praise his return. So they've survived all these millennia, which is really neat.
They would lead him to underground machinery that had kept intact all of his server that has been
kept intact for all this time. Twenty vats, with one very important unit remaining in pristine
condition. This vat contains none other than Fulgrim, the perfect clone. He smuggles-
Indeed, he smuggles the remnants of his work back onto the Forsaleus, and they depart from
the gene tithe. As they travel, the clone ages quickly, and is taught by Fabius. The most
important part about this Fulgrim is that he goes uncorrupted, truly perfect, what the Fulnician was
meant to be. He keeps him as isolated as possible, allowing him large amounts of study material,
and giving him some semblance of a father. He's actually pretty good at the fathering
thing compared to Biggie. I'm a loyalist, Simp, and I'm like, yeah, he was a good father.
I'm like, yeah, he was a good dad in some regards. Despite the flesh coat.
The Emperor's more of a soldier, more of a leader, politician, than a father.
But he can't keep a literal Primarch contained forever, of course, and Fulgrim would sneak
around the ship and observe much as it happened around him. He would also feel a real connection
with the past life of the actual Fulgrim. Seeing his memories and experiences, he was disgusted
by them. Not only this, but the narrative almost suggests that despite being a clone,
he has a soul, and a true soul of Fulgrim at that. But this is a poor interpretation.
IAN It's this big struggle in the book where he's like, he remembers everything Fulgrim did,
and he even regrets the death of Ferris Manus, and he's like, I'll never be like him.
And it's like, that's you. He's like, no, that was the other Fulgrim. I'm like the proper one.
And he goes through this whole thing of like, Fabius trying to teach him, and him trying to
go against his nature. And it's really interesting, like hearing the adolescent Fulgrim struggling
with it. He doesn't want to hang out in his room. I don't want to go to my room.
I want to go out there. He's like Ariel from the Little Mermaid, but with better hair.
FULGRIM Yeah. So, as he watches Fulgrim learn and grow, he sees in him an actual hope,
something that Fabius had not believed in for a very long time. He saw the possibility of a
new legion, a force led by a pure and untainted being. This is kind of going back to the time
when he was making Horus, but this is even more promising. The true phoenix for splendid and true
clean beauty, untouched by the debauchery and insanity of the Dark Prince. For the time being,
though, Bile would arrive at the planet which contained the precious gene seed and would descend
upon it with his retinue. He left many of the Glanhounds and Space Marines behind,
anticipating the betrayal that awaited him on the Vrasalius. This betrayal was expected from a marine
known as Alconex, who was not of Bile's warband. He was just, I think he was one of Iadolon's guys,
if I remember correctly. So, Igor was tasked with watching over Fulgrim, and the Primarch was,
of course, ordered to remain in his quarters. Fabius would indeed return to a betrayal,
but not the one he expected. They would quickly discover the planet was a tomb world. Not just
any tomb worlds, though, this was Silumnus, home to a very important figure within the Necrons.
A trap was sprung, and the forces of chaos would be ambushed by the metallic defenders of Silumnus.
So too would the marines loyal to Alconex attempt at assassinating Fabius until the apothecary and
ancient daomat fell into a large crevice. So, sorry, Alconex was on the ship, and his lackeys
were on the ground, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, so Bile then fulfills his promise to the
old warrior and ends his life. It's a little sad. I don't know if it's sad, but it's compassionate
of Fabius. So, the truth of the matter is then revealed as a being walks out from the depths of
the planet. As he approaches the chief apothecary, Trazin the Infinite reveals himself. Yeah.
He originally wishes to add Bile to his collection, but is eventually swayed by Fabius as they make a
deal. Negotiations go awry for Bile, though, but he is rescued by none other than the Harlequins.
Here, the Shadow Seer Veilwalker would tell Fabius she was there to save him from captivity,
but Bile offers the Harlequins to Trazin as they show up. Damn.
Now, he has trapped the Eldarii, and many swiftly fell as the scarabs and warriors emerged from all
around them. Veilwalker would escape, but the remaining troop did not. In exchange for the
Xenos, the Infinite allowed Bile safe passage, but in another deal, Fabius would provide Trazin with
one of his own clones and basically a copy of his brain in exchange for the Lost Gene Tithe and the
Necrons' assistance in keeping the Phrasalius. Meanwhile, on the Phrasalius, Alconex and his
soldiers would raid Bile's laboratory and begin razing it. Igori would take Fulgrim to safe hiding,
where he would rally the packs of Glanhounds. They would place upon him crude armor and he would heft
a large piece of metal as his sword. All traitors fell before Fulgrim, either by his hand or simply
to their knees as an undeniable authority washed over them. Marex, one of the old Joybound, would
literally stop in his tracks as he was about to kill Igori, the voice of his Primarch commanding him.
For all intents and purposes, it was literally Fulgrim. At the climax of the battle, Alconex
would fire a shot at his clone father before realizing what it was. Igori would leap in front
of the Phoenician, saving him and proving her loyalty to the new creation. Even after this,
Alconex would kneel before Fulgrim as his new lord. Fabius and Trazin would then appear back
upon the ship and despite Fulgrim's victory and perfection, Fabius was not pleased.
He saw his new men and an army of Emperor's children kneeling before the risen phoenix,
a new hope for the Legion, a redeeming chance. This was their one shot at redemption, their one
shot at escaping the clutches of the Dark Prince, the only way for them to become what they had once
been. But none of this mattered to the Primordial Tour. All he saw was servitude amongst his new men
that were created to one day rule themselves. He saw the glimpse of arrogance upon Fulgrim's
face that had been part of his father's downfall. This was not part of his plan and it truly drove
the point home that Fabius lost all care for his Legion a long, long time ago. He turned to Trazin
and altered the deal. In exchange for the gene tithe, he would give the Necron to Fulgrim.
Legionaries rose to defend their clone father, but Trazin would simply freeze time,
take the Primarch and the Marines and leave. And that was it. It was like the saddest
as the Emperor's children fan, it was the saddest moment in the last 10,000 years.
Soterios So gross. So damn close.
Fulgrim Yeah, it was so, so, so, so, so, so,
so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,
literally on the cusp of something so awesome and great, but Fabius had none of it.
Soterios I like the, I love the part where they,
like these are men who were like, these are Marines who were actually corrupted by chaos.
And yet still when they see the Primarch Fulgrim, they literally start weeping and they prove,
they are full Grim. They go, Oh, we'll do what he wants. And it's like, Oh, it was that easy.
Soterios I can defy chaos.
Soterios Yeah. Igor is healed by Fabius, but she leaves with her pack as she feels like she's
failed him. I think Fabius actually doesn't understand why she leaves, but he lets her.
Soterios Jesus.
Soterios We see Vail Walker one last time in this portion. And she reveals to Fabius
that one story is coming to an end, but a new one is beginning. She gives the spider a gift,
a map of the webway showing the path to the dark city of Kamura.
Soterios That's too nice for these people.
Soterios To be fair, directing someone to Kamura is a great way to get them killed.
Soterios Yeah.
Soterios Pardon me. Wish they were killed.
Soterios Indeed. Indeed. So in recent times, Fabius actually travels to Kamura and studies
under the tutelage of the Homunculus Covens. But we will explore this in the future. His lore is
ever expanding and growing, so there may even be a part two at some point in time. I hope you have
all enjoyed this episode of lore crimes. I hope you all like Fabius as a character. He's very
interesting and very peculiar.
Soterios He's on a lot. I think my big question is, damn,
I think I can see how jaded he's become over time. Because obviously he probably hasn't
with the warp stuff, he hasn't necessarily lived 10,000 years, but it feels like he's just,
like it's a never ending journey. You know what I mean?
Soterios He's very accomplished individual.
Soterios Yeah. Can you think of anyone else who's not only in there at the beginning of their
legion, survived the Horus heresy, cloned Primarchs, and he's done a lot. He seems like
a side character, but he's one of the top 10 most important with-
Soterios He's literally a main character.
Soterios Yeah. When you see all the stuff he's done that's changed everything in the universe.
Soterios I don't know if there's many other characters that have as much lore as him,
maybe like Ragnar Blackmaid, because he has like five books or something, but-
Soterios Six. I wouldn't do that pain.
Soterios And then I assume Ragnar's stuff is just him like exploring, going on-
Soterios He's having adventure.
Soterios Adventure. Yeah.
Soterios Fabius is actually accomplishing things, right?
Soterios I mean, one of his own Mjord festival. He's like, this one's quite bitter.
Soterios Fabius is very peculiar though, because he has the adventures and kills lots of stuff,
like any other space marine, but he's like a scientist and he has breakthroughs all the
time and he's constantly researching and getting new discoveries and creating new things, which is
something that we don't really see. Soterios And his discoveries changed the course of the galaxy,
like just Horus. He cloned Horus. He basically birthed the Black Legion because of what he did.
Soterios I think his story is also very grim darky because there's a little, there's an undertone
of like, it's a little bit sad if you know what I mean. It's like, it's a lot of like epic, but
it's a lot of, oh, you know what I mean? Like he's like, oh, he's been cloned Fulgrim. Oh,
cloned Fulgrim is now in prison and he doesn't want to do it, but he has to.
Soterios Especially because if you look at his,
like if you look at his goals in a vacuum, it's like they're almost noble. And then you look at
what he's actually doing. It's like, oh. Soterios And then you remember, he's wearing
a skin jacket. I guess the backpack, I like the backpack part by the way.
That'll be a short, I'm sure.
Soterios You've heard of a thing like get ready for
food. Oh, yuck. Thank you. Thank you very much Eli for helming that. Let's just say that absolute
huge task of doing Fabius Vile justice. There's a lot, that's a lot to cover and even more.
Soterios It's far more than I thought.
Soterios When we explore Comorah and the dark city,
we'll hopefully have a little dabble of Fabius in the future. And for our next episode, it will be,
again, we're returning to the timeline. So we'll be doing the birth of the Imperium. So essentially
we're following humans this time. Sorry, Colin, no more Eldari for a little while. And I hope you-
Colin I get to do what Andy did next time and sit there naysaying everything they do.
Soterios Perfect.
Andy Payne. Thank you all so much for listening and watching. Hope you all enjoyed it. Hope you all
think you have an expert level. I'm pretty sure we can all leave it an expert level
of knowledge on Fabius Vile. And we'll see you all next time. Thank you very much.
Soterios Bye.