Hello, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
and welcome back to Lore Crimes. Hello, everybody.
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and I know because you watch them too, that once
I, like, had a panic attack because I thought
it was recording, because Laserpig used that
in one of his videos, and I was like, what? Yeah,
he's used one of the ones that, you know, like,
I think... some of the the other ones that things
like ian have used you know that white bat audio
and stuff like that yeah he uses that free stuff
but hello everyone um eli might be with us uh
we kind of said we might do an episode we might
not and then he's probably asleep so he might
wake up and go oh we're doing a thing um but
yes today how what are we doing today this was
your idea this was all your idea yeah um Daddy
issues. We could still name that as the episode.
Today we're going to talk about, well, we're
doing a tier list, and it's about which one of
these schmucks, which one of these complete psychopaths
needs therapy the most. Probably all of us here
do. Definitely some of the guys in the chat.
You've said some foul things. With my family,
I'm fine. Don't worry about me, I'm fine. It's
just like Warhammer. It's pretty great. You make
poor financial choices. You're into Warhammer.
Let's talk about these cool characters in this
setting, and let's talk about how broken they
are. Bear in mind, this is only 40k characters.
I've added an even spread, and for some reason
I added Yarrick twice, because I think I was
thinking one would be... Whoops. And I've tried
to order them so they're all like legions first
and then we'll go into like side characters.
And if you have any that I've missed or you think,
oh, what about so -and -so, I can add them as
we go. But obviously we've got to start with
the Emperor. Nothing wrong with this guy, surely.
Also is S, he really needs therapy. D is he doesn't.
Does he need therapy? Does it work on him? Surely
he was there. I was there before therapy existed.
I think that's further proof he needs it. I don't
think it's will it work on him. I think does
he need therapy? And I think the answer is a
decisive yeah. But what for? Raising kids would
be one thing. I think even if we're going to
ignore any criticisms about his character, I
think like 10 ,000 years on the ouch couch, he
could probably talk through some issues he's
been facing. Are we just going to ignore the
biggest kill count of any human that's ever lived
as well? Also that. I can't imagine taking a...
Apologies, fellas. I might be a little bitch
-made. I've never killed another human being.
But I assume it doesn't weigh easily on the soul.
Once you have a kill count that just can't be
measured, I assume... probably talk to someone
at least once about it you know i think he's
got a taste for it to be honest at this point
i feel like i think he needs therapy i think
if i think no i think that's only more reasons
he should talk to a psych and shall we not also
glance over the fact that his his most documented
arguably form of therapy was going to the last
church on earth and burning it to the ground
after having a debate i don't know i would almost
put him like right in the middle in terms of
i think the reason i don't think i don't know
if he's necessarily traumatized by his own choices
i think he's more of a i would do it again like
i think yeah but like do it again yeah but like
the therapy doesn't necessarily mean like oh
i'm i'm functional you don't have to worry about
it's like no you you shouldn't do that thing
the emperor doesn't need to vent it doesn't need
someone to solve his emotional issues he's just
an like he just is that sure surely right he's
just such a person back me up i think we should
keep him at the top like surely this guy needs
to take away his powers for a day working isn't
the question it's does he need it i know it wouldn't
work on him because he's too much of a stubborn
mildly like he's a mildly dude again like ignore
all his aspects of his personality he's been
on the golden throne for 10 000 years i'm sure
he could yap to someone about the hell that is
he did walk into hell and came out relatively
all right though we don't know how he was when
he came out we just know he went in and came
out we don't know how he was doing after the
fact because he doesn't tell anyone What's your
story, Big Emperor? I had to clone 2021 of my
sons in order to make a great crusade across
the galaxy to stop the voices I hear in my head
from taking over. What is the name of that perpetual
he left on Malak? Evia. Yeah. For all we know,
she had to drag him out while he's gibbering
and screaming after the fact. We don't know.
We didn't fucking tell anyone. she has a direct
quote of her saying i think i because i'm working
on a video at the moment i literally have i think
her exact words or something which is about like
she she says he emerges basically looking the
same but his eyes look older yeah yeah i no longer
has a sense of humor they are yeah it's what's
what's alivia remembered the gaunt aged face
she'd seen beyond the glamours he'd been gone
for no more than a heartbeat to her but she saw
centuries carved into the face she'd watched
go into the gate so basically he like he looked
like he'd seen something but he was more powerful
and stronger that alone i'm sure he could talk
to someone about like again ignore all the facts
i'm not a fan of the guy he he deserves someone
to just talk to for a bit That just reminded
me of that Ren and Stimpy meme of the guy who's
in the bed and then he jumps up and his face
is completely shadowy and just staring off into
the middle distance. I'm only hesitant because
I think there are more people who I think are
much worse at cases, essentially. That's top
of S tier. They'll just put him up above in S
tier, surely. Fair enough. Valdor. King and Yeller.
Brother. That's what he says. Always does what
he's told. no free will kinder if it's post horus
heresy i believe uh in the scouring book and
and he doesn't he say like he literally almost
can't speak yeah he's he's like he is so broken
like he is on the uh the building of the golden
throne he's just like Can I get you anything?
No, no. I think when the Primarchs all meet again,
he just shows up. He just stands there, just
like a hollowed mess of a thing. And then he
leaves the Imperium in failure that the Emperor's
wounded. So, bad. I'm going to put him an A.
I'm going to put him an A. Malkagor. Malkador
we know had therapy with a cloned hybrid Eldar
human thing. Oh yeah, that creature. So does
he need more? Because he technically has a healthy
relationship with it. He just clones a being,
vents his problems to it, and then lets that
person end themselves with all his convictions.
I'd say put him in C because he has it. And again,
this isn't the therapy the best, but he's getting
therapy. In his own way. And, you know, I guess,
I mean, nowadays he doesn't need therapy because
his soul's been obliterated. Yeah. So, you know,
he's a C -tier. He had his therapy and nowadays
there's nothing to therapy. To be fair, his therapy
is so bad it makes the therapist, like, grab
the rope. Yeah. does he need it no which is also
again why the emperor needs one even if that's
a therapy that's just gonna be there's not enough
there's not a shrink on the planet handled capable
of that unless we forget his therapist ended
themself every time he spoke to him and then
was reborn and like mind wiped so it's like oh
no this is a lot of baggage i have to I feel
like he's a B tier. To be fair, he's kind of
worked through a lot of it. That's kind of what
I mean. Yeah, his Lion 40K book, he kind of does
the work himself a lot of the time. He's like,
yeah, I was a bit of a whoopsie, bashed my own
son's head off. Happens to the best of us. But
he's kind of worked through it. I'd say, you
know what, I might even say C tier. Because honestly,
I think if someone's around and just give them
a hug and say, you know, it'll be alright, I
think that'd be enough for the guy. Unless he
saw the Emperor on the Golden Throne, he'd be
like, oof. Yeah, well, only one bastard's been
unlucky enough to do that so far, at least out
of the Primarchs. I think he did see it at the
very beginning of him being put on, because...
oh yeah there's a bit where him him and the wolf
king are like screaming because they're like
ah and it's like we've kind of seen what's happened
to him oh yeah yeah he's not become like a slush
puppy quite yet but the emperor is like pretty
like beat up he isn't like pruned out yet um
asthma die ah repent would it work I don't think
he needs therapy. I think D tier. I think he
just needs to be locked away. Yeah. Like, no,
he's just a moronic murderer. Therapy is like
people who work with clay. The results are only
as good as the clay you have. This man is not
clay. This man is a hard rock. Who's the guy
who showed up after him and got like a dozen
beads immediately and Asmodai has like four?
After years and years of service? I am talking
about a character, right? I'm not imagining this
guy existing. Isn't there a guy who showed up
after Asma died and immediately was infinitely
better at his job? There is a high sanctifier
of the dark. He's not the guy in charge. He's
an interrogated chaplain, but he's not the main
one. No, yeah. The other guy is just more pleasant
to deal with. So he's younger, but he also is
just more like... diplomatic no yeah i know like
but for those reasons like he showed up after
asmodei and is just infinitely better at the
job i think asmodei is better at getting like
fallen he's not as good at running the the reclusium
so therefore the i can't remember his name off
to my head but it's like is it saffron i think
saffron's like i run the guys but this guy knows
how to get a fall and you give this guy like
is that a is that heresy and he off he goes oh
oh and physically getting them yeah he's he's
unmatched but then there's the after party and
i don't think he's very good at the after party
part he usually just beats them to death yeah
um again i say d tier for therapy though he's
just i like there's he's just psychotic like
there's he's he's just there like that meme just
like call a therapist but not for me Fulgrim.
Oh, Lordy. This is complicated. I think even
Demon Fulgrim could use a therapist. Again, so
I just want to make my stance real clear. I'm
not saying the therapist is going to make him
a better person. I just mean get over some issues.
I think it's A tier for both. I think Demon Fulgrim
could work over through that Rylenor business.
That kind of hurt his pride quite a bit for my
reading of the story. Oh, definitely. And then
Great Crusade Fulgrim is a mess of, you know,
insecurities, as they say. Great Crusade Fulgrim
needed to be taught the meaning of the phrase
good enough. Yeah. He's Ken -uff. He's Ken -enough.
No one ever told Fulgrim he was Ken -uff. Which
is really surprising considering at no point
has anyone been like, yeah, full Grimm guy is
really not it. No one says that. Ironic. He was
never full Grimm. No. Boo. Boo. You love it.
You love it. Shut up. You love it. I think Valdor's
worse, I would say. Valdor's just a poor guy,
you know. Fabius Bile. Oh, no, this is Detick,
because this man has a very, very healthy relationship
with the universe. This is a prime example of
a human being who is completely just, he understands
everything that's wrong. He understands hypocrisy
and everything. He's like, yeah, I'm a hypocrite.
Also, chaos is evil. Just evil. It's the worst
thing ever. I hate it. that's okay uh also does
does not value life really in any sense not even
if he made it he's just a bad person like i'd
say you know mentally he's pretty well put together
he's just an asshole i just love the uh the exchange
where he's talking to a demon that he wants like
shot an experimental like acid into and melted
him to death and banished him into the war but
he's like i hate you and he's like i was doing
science what do you want from me it's like the
bit where he's also like us lanesh is like join
me and he's like I reject your reality and substitute
my own. And when about his business? Like, yeah,
Fabius is no, I, I, I'm not going to, well, I
think you're muted Colin. I was, I mean, pretty
impressive. He told just Slaanesh that just full
stop. It was Slaanesh. Surprisingly rational
individual as well. Yeah. Although he lives in
quite the irrational world. So, you know, he
should come to terms with that, but I don't think
that's a therapy thing. I think he just needs
to wake up a little bit. Fabulous. And he's just
like, jokes on you. I'm asexual. Oh, no. I can't
entice him with my lust powers. Not enough that
he didn't avoid looking at her the entire conversation.
He knows. He knew. The opposite. Lucius. Oh,
God. Mr. Lucius the Eternal. Are we talking just...
like specifically great crusader overall because
i think overall he's now in d tier because at
this point he's just it's just like he's unsalvageable
it's unsalvageable but also i think he's fully
committed to the bit now uh if it was great crusade
era specifically i'd say like a tier i think
someone i think there could have been like if
someone you know dedicated to it sat him down
and talked through some issues maybe they could
have made him not himself uh maybe maybe there
was something to work with should we say b for
like a middle ground of like it's pointless now
but at some point it was pretty like needed the
point when he was carving like into his like
face to like take notches of his skills to say
he could have really used a therapist Now he's
like, hey, my skin regenerates. I don't care.
I think if Saul Tarver sat him down for a good
six hours one day and had a couple of brews with
him, I think that could have done wonders. But
now he just doesn't. And now it's just, you know,
that's it. Jealousy issues, paranoia, insecurity.
Let's be honest. Lucia had small pee -pee. That's
why it was such a day. I got small pee -pee.
Why is Saul so much bigger than me? I mean, better
than me. That's not fair. Why is Saul so much
bigger than me? They're in the showers after
a battle and he's just sitting there with impetive
rage. Staring at Saul's meat. Wow. Perfect person.
Eidolon. Perfect individual. Does nothing ever
wrong. The thing is, Eidolon is kind of like...
I always imagine him with Donald Trump's voice
sometimes because he actually speaks like him.
I was like, I did nothing wrong. You know, murder
was an act of self -defense. He's kind of a,
I don't think he needs it. I was going to kill
all the mega arachnids on my own. Totally going
to do it. Didn't need you Luna Wells getting
involved. Salt of it. Had it coming. Blood angels
were not on the planet. Fake news. Wouldn't certify
his country. I honestly don't think he even needs
it. He's wholly... I've spoken to the Warmaster.
He's a very smart man. A good friend of mine.
Good guy. Ailon's not delusional. He's just like...
He's like, I just like her. Yeah, that's the
thing. Like, I mean, first of all, if we're going
to judge if they need therapy by if they're a
bad person, everyone on this list is an S tier.
Hmm. It's also... A good chunk. Yeah. In his
own, like... is like novella thing as well he
goes through quite like a introspective transformation
where here there's like two parts like one of
them is he could become a demon and one of them
is you know like basically he has his own like
i am enough kind of moment and he's like i'm
better not to be a slave like fulcrum i'm gonna
be a man so actually you know pretty healthy
so he doesn't May I disappear for a quick two
minutes? Yeah, go for it. Don't talk about Iron
Warriors. I don't think you'll mind. Oh, good.
This is the perfect time. Yeah. All right. Parity
Turbo. Quick, while Colin's gone, put him in
the lower left. No, this guy is like S tier.
I'd subscribe from back, Chris. Don't work. Don't
be funny. You can re -subscribe after the stream.
Don't just be funny. No, don't do that. This
is S tier. This is the S tier. yeah petulant
child man this guy my cast is bigger than yours
he rages at people like if they do nothing wrong
he does he'll just like grab a little toy doll
and like yeet it across the room oh my god what
a petulant child this poor man and he thinks
he's like i'm the tough guy i'm the tough guy
he's he's He'll bash his head against a wall
to prove that he's harder than the wall. And
then Perturabo said, how big is your Bugatti?
And everyone went, cringe, cringe. Yeah, he needs
it desperately. Yeah. Opposite end, Barabas Dantio.
Yes, he did sear a mask onto his own face, but
that was a cool moment. That was like, hey, look.
It's a symbolic gesture and it's all for a good
cause. He made it a little bit like in C, just
to cope. He's been through a lot. He got abandoned
by his own legion. They tried to kill him a few
times. I feel like he got his therapy, though.
In his exile, he got to build his own little
perfect fortress. He got to... It was alright,
yeah. He would value it. He'd be like, yeah,
let me talk to Alexis Pollux a bit more. Let
me chill with the boys. I think in the form of
his banishment, he got his therapy. He just got
to go play Lego off in the corner of the galaxy
for a while. Yeah, I think he's okay there. I
think he's fine. Honsu. Again, I don't know if
this guy... needs help he's just more of like
he's happy the way he is i mean i think he enjoys
being a monster like i don't think it's a therapy
thing i think he's just a bad egg Although he
does have like, he lets his intrusive thoughts
get the better of him because there's that point
where he meets Euron Blackheart and he's a bit
uppity with him and Euron just stabs him in the
guts and is like, you gotta do that again. He's
like, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He's
kind of like a rat. He's a bit of a rat. He's
competent, he's good strategy, he's a good fighter,
but also he isn't like a Primarch, he isn't a
Warmaster level. He's up there. But he doesn't
know when to shut up, and he doesn't know quite
when to let his vision... I think he needs a
knock on the head. I think at that point, he
needs a life coach, not a therapist, though.
He needs someone to be like, hey, asshole, now's
not the time. I think D tier, though, because
again, he's like, I don't see the problem. He's
like, I'm doing great. So he wouldn't value it.
Andy, I feel like this is the only time you're
going to let me get away with saying Jagged Eye
belongs in D tier. I feel like he's pretty, you
know... literally the levelest, headest Primarch
there is, really. Although, we should say, you
know, he's probably feeling some type of way
after being in Comorat for 10 ,000 years, surely.
And to be fair, I'm going to actually move it
up on D, because of when Targutai Yasugai died,
he was well sad about that. I don't know. like
best mates i don't think you well all right i
guess you know some therapy for that would help
but i mean i just feeling sad and angry that
your best bud died i don't think that's a sign
yeah therapy necessarily i think that's a sign
you have a functional moral compass yeah and
he would like he'd be like even if he went i
think this is stupid he'd attend the sessions
and be like all right i'll take it under advisement
yeah right whatever you'd hear you out and then
you go right i'm going to ignore that or no I
will actually incorporate that in secret. Do
it my way. Before we get any further, should
we address the... Have there been any donations?
Yes. Borborgimus Rumblesnort. For five, my first
pick, Malekith. Giga mummy issues, burned alive,
thousands of years of bitter exile, chronic pain,
armour fused to his flesh, plessy abish. We'll
do a fantasy episode about this, because there's
quite a lot of delving into, because Malekith
is an interesting... You are quite right, though.
Yeah. See, the problem is every time he tried
to get therapy, his mother would kill the therapist
so he wouldn't get fixed. The mummy issues is
probably the hardest -hitting thing on the bill.
He nearly got his wife back after becoming Malekith.
Well, you know, king of the drukie. And then
his mother killed his wife. Kill the wife. Ape
kill wife. Ape sad. Malekith sad. Mother of Malekith,
ape feel good. Malekith, not Phoenix, Lord. Malekith
sad. Phoenix King, please. Sorry, you know what
I mean. Donkey Man, I will say thank you again,
brother. Two bucks streamlates you to hell, gooning
to therapy buzzwords. Responsibility. i appreciate
the fact that every stream there's been one of
those from you that at this point has been incredibly
consistent at this point you just by sheer volume
alone you have to be one of lore crime's top
supporters thank you man thank you thank you
shark see that picture again it's amazing that
picture the gnome the cheat up gnome finally
a tier list i could be on Wow. Member for 18
months. Thank you, man. Thank you. Angry Homunculus
for 12 months, one year as a member. Thank you.
How late can I comment my obscure chapter? In
what way? What do you mean? From the poll we
did last week, I think, or the week before. We
did obscure chapters, didn't we? Oh, I see. Might
be a few weeks out. But also, YouTube comments
are free. You can do that whenever. Yeah. How
did I say this one, Colin? Beastman from Sweden.
Thank you for the 65. S -E -K. Baldor learnt
the true name of every demon he killed in the
siege. Yeah, the man needs therapy. That's probably
not great, having those rattling around in your
head. Oh yeah, he relived the life of each person
he kills, doesn't he? With that spear. When he
kills demons. Yeah, he experiences their essence.
He understands them. He just got S'd here because
he stabbed Abaddon. When he saw the Doom of the
Imperium. Yeah, he saw the despoiler. You know
that scene in Kung Fu Panda where he's fighting
him and he sees that flashback of Kai Lung as
a baby and then he punches him. Oh yeah, Tai
Lung. Yeah, Tai Lung. What's he going to do?
Sit on me? Yeah, great moment. Great film. I
actually love Kung Fu Panda. Kung Fu Panda, the
first three movies are all goaded. yeah i would
say the person there's like a new version of
that going around where like the guy's absolutely
hysterically giggling to himself because he saw
the meme of like you mixing up the chinese babies
or something before and then he watches the film
after and he's pissing himself because he's watching
that exact same singing that same scene in tai
long is just like yeah i'm just saying i think
poe could take out a primark Orc with a bow,
five bucks. Hey Jets, hope you all are well.
This orc found the Warhammer 40k battle manual
from 1992 in near perfect condition for 13 bucks
and it's beautiful. Nice find. If you ever want
to find an old book or codex, go to a second
-hand bookstore first because... If it's there,
it'll be quite cheap compared to eBay of $5 million,
please. I got First Strike, the Halo book, and
it was like £4. Oh yeah, dude, go to second -hand
bookstores if you ever want this specific book.
Anytime you go past an Oxfam, just check out
the Sci -Fi Fantasy section just in case. Anytime
you pass by, just quickly just go... I didn't
get them because I already had the omnibuses,
but I think I saw the first six Gotrick and Felix
books at a... local bookstores to go to. I saw
some MechWarrior, MechAssault. Ooh, that's...
Yeah. Four pounds. Nice. Wait, I don't know.
Did we read this one? Yeah. So, Rodolf, 6093
for $4 .99. I'm a public defender and our bail
hearing clients are brought in shackles to court.
Worst part is the shackles remind me of the exploders
from DS2. Bad. Oh, no. It's almost like debuffing
your entire case before you begin. Your Honor,
I was watching Law Crimes. In the courtroom?
No. Donkey Man USA for $5. Thank you, man. I'm
Law Crimes' top guy. Law Crimes needs me to insult
Hal every week. Yeah, pretty weird existence.
Thank you, man. Just so you know, Hal thinks
of you every night before he goes to sleep. In
a good way. With my cock. He's all cosy. He just
goes, just think, the end of the week, he's gonna...
I yell out every single donator's name. The top
of my lungs. Hey, Spooky Kabuki, Marathi, be
like, I'm a boy mom. Evil. I'm a boy, man. So,
yes. So, are we going to put up Valdor a little
bit higher because of the whole stabbing Abaddon?
I forgot all the extra things. That poor guy's
been through a lot. Yeah. Rust is detailed, by
the way. Nothing wrong with it. Actually, no.
End of the Siege of Terror, he's in mourning.
The poor guy is a bit sad. He would actually...
Is it the appearance he has in... prospero burns
where he's like talking to a space marine and
it's like oh his his primal book his problem
oh his primal book sorry yeah yeah and he's all
like oh my regrets my life uh i'm going off to
find the tree of life like i i really hope they
bring him back to the setting as like a wise
white beard like proper like grizzled but also
like tempered soul rather than just it's crazy
viking man again so i know i wanted to be like
measured and patient and completely like changed
because i think that would be a nice character
arc um kind of like with the lion i suppose he's
also and yeah but we'll see uh so he needs a
little bit of therapy uh logan speaking of a
old viking with a white beard logan grim near
uh not looking for me um i think b's good Because
he's old enough to be like, I'm ready for my
good send -off. Do you know what I mean? So he's
seen some shit. And also, I think I remember
it from the Ragnar books where it mentions when
the Space Wolves are training, they have their
little fledgling group, their little claws. And
usually they're friends for life. And I think...
in one of ragnar's books the last of logan's
like initial friends uh does die like in the
beginning of one of the novels i think is it
the fourth or fifth book i think it might be
but he's very much like damn i'm like one of
the last ones you know i'm on the older the older
crew so i think he'd appreciate like a little
bit but also I don't know if he'd want it. He's
like, what are you going to change? There's nothing
to change. He would unironically say you can't
teach an old dog new tricks. That's what he'd
say. Then proceeds to howl at the moon. Yes.
Any opinion, Colin, on Logan Grim now? No. I
got nothing. Okay. Doesn't think of him. I tend
not to. Brick wall. Well, that's an S too, immediately.
That is a very broken man. I just missed someone
important. Keep going. I'll add him. He's the
emperor. He gets trapped in the corn dimension,
the little corn desert for who knows how long.
I think it's the amount of time where even his
weapons rust away, don't they, or something.
Yeah. He has to keep saying his name. He's there
so long he forgets his own name. It's pretty
bad. And then he arrives back on the weird terror
scape and then it's, you know, the Emperor's
basically dead. And there's the haunting moment
where in the scouring he's like, I put him on
the throne and he said, now? Or did he say no?
uh like that kind of did i just do humanity forever
by my actions but what else was i supposed to
do oh no uh yeah and then what will be the iron
cage coming up so you know he's he's a not very
happy man he needs help he's the epitome of just
like don't discuss your feelings bottle it up
until it like reaches a fever loads yeah And
we all know about that scene with Garrow where
he almost beats him to death for just saying
that maybe Horace was a traitor. So like, yeah,
trigger finger temper right there. Is that Bjorn?
This is Bjorn. I forgot to add Bjorn. He's been
for a lot. He lives in a box. I think A though.
I think A, like he's still somewhat like, again,
he'd be like, there's nothing to do about it.
It just is what it is. He would appreciate it,
though. He just wants to talk to someone who's
as old as him, really. But also, just remember,
he's not seen his limbs or face or hands for
thousands of years. He hasn't felt much beyond
pain. He lives in a dark room. and he barely
sees the light of day, and he's woken up. He's
got a weird sleep schedule, and everyone treats
him like a ghost -slash -legend, and all of his
friends are dead, and his dad's missing. I think
he should be quite high up there. Like, Bjorn's
a badass. He also hates Gilliman. He's like,
Gilliman! Legionbreaker Gilliman! Kill him! Kill
all Ultraman! Well, alright. That's a little
excessive, please. I feel like as I think the
only dreadnought on this list, we got to put
them up there because that's not a fun time for
anyone. No, the process of going into one, like
even if after the fact you're completely well
put together, it's like use a bit of something.
Oh, pardon me. I do like the exchange in, I think
it is Prospero Banzai, where it's just like Casper's
with the dreadnoughts. They're like, could you
stop talking? You'll make so much noise. We're
trying to rest. You'll get used to it. We just
rest and we sit here and we sit here and we rest.
And then eventually we wake up and say, what's
going on with these guys? Like, you talk too
much. Let us sleep. And it's like, they're so
miserable and patient. Oh, Sigismund. I don't
think he feels he needs it, though. He probably
does need it, but it's a thing of, if I have
therapy, I'll be a worse version of what I could
do for the Imperium. So he'd be like, nah. Nah.
Goes out like a badass as well. he's just like
my my therapy is impaling abaddon through the
god be like you're a bitch like wow nice one
sigismund it's pretty good he's gone beyond hate
he hates so strong that he's just like i don't
hate you i'm just going to destroy every single
atom of your existence because that is what i
have to do And he has got his whole, like, faith
shtick, where he's like, ah, I'm a believer.
I couldn't leave her if I tried. So he finds
a bit of, like... Yeah, you know Sigismund from
Shrek 3? Yeah, yeah. That ending scene? Yeah,
yeah. Oh, man. Okay, well, this is the S of S
tears, isn't it? Surely. Yeah. What's to say?
Conrad Kurz is, um... He needed a shoulder to
cry on. immediately, you know, Nostromo is traumatizing.
Seeing visions of the future basically every
day is traumatizing. The poor guy needs it. He
needs a fucking break. Oh, jeez. Conrad Kurz
is a top of S, by the way. Oh, I mean, yeah,
there's... He's on the thumbnail. Yes. Yeah.
That guy is... He hates it. Oh, would you like
to join me for the tea party? What's in the teapot?
Tea? That's not tea. That's effluent. About 30
minutes, by the way, gents. I will once again
need to disappear because my garage door opener
is now not working. Hooray! Because there was
no power yesterday, I had to disconnect it so
I could open it manually. And it's not going
back in until I just open. Oh, shit. The next
one is Talos. He's all right, to be honest. I
don't think he... His own story is more of a...
Like, he needed therapy in the beginning, but
towards the end, he's just more like... His whole
thing is like, I'm dying anyway. Let's go out
with a boom. But again, that's something where
if you said that in real life, you need to see
a therapist. There's more to life than... He
was dying, as in, like, his gene scene was not
with his body. he's also like he owns slaves
i mean he he's like he he's not exactly like
well put together like none of the legion the
eighth legion are but he's like He makes a lot
of excuses. He has a bad way of problem solving.
He tries to be like, I'll have a heroic last
act. But even then, it's like wasn't really heroic,
was it? It was like it was a bit selfish and
a bit like, oh, I'm just going to get like a
bunch of my men killed in the process. He could
use a I'd say he could use a fair bit of therapy.
I, I just think they're better examples, like
because in his own trilogy, he kind of. like
you see more towards the end especially in the
third book like he likes being bad like his whole
his character art comes about where it's like
he's he's quite miserable and he's like what
are we even fighting for and to the end of it
he's like i'm ready to kill imperials i'm so
ready to win this war so he's kind of he almost
talked his way out of needing therapy towards
the end he would need a little bit i'll put him
in beta but he's very uh I mean, like he, he
needed it. He's almost too far gone. Do you know
what I mean? Like he, he's like, I'm fundamentally
an astronomer. Like I like hurting people. So,
you know, he's, he's a, he's a bad, he's a bad
egg. Savarta. Hmm. That's a difficult one because
I think he probably like he's at a point, at
least the last time you see him. he's like kind
of had mini therapy sessions where he's speaking
to that uh navigator girl in the dark angel ship
while being held prisoner by the dark angels
like yeah good place yeah he's open enough to
it as in like he could have it and it would be
successful in some sense because the whole point
like the navigator girl and his in that ship
is like being beaten up and he breaks out of
his own prison to go kill the um the guy who
did that to her and he just says like i found
my new method i'm no longer you know a knight
a son of curse i am justice i am that basically
becomes batman the thing is it's just you made
me think of like a like a weird like parody of
like in a world where war is everywhere can one
super soldier find love in the depths of a dark
angel's Prince of crows. Oh, she's dead. Oh,
nevermind. Um, and that probably didn't help
him. I feel like, yeah, not as bad as Talos,
but he could be top of the day though. Cause
he would be like, it would be very like he's
he's Talos is like closed off to it. Whereas
like Savitar is like, okay, human. Okay. Okay.
Okay. Oh, Sangi. He needs some. Good man, but
he needs some therapy. I see myself die every
day in my dreams. That's a good point. He's often
quite sad as well and angry. That's pretty fair.
And he's always struggling with his inner...
he wants to rip people to shreds all the time
but on the outside he's like oh you're so lovely
hi oh you're great oh you should you should yeah
you should go for that you know promotion oh
good for you and inside he says kill i want to
rip a head off oh you're so lovely oh is that
your children oh that's nice heart like that
that's his demeanor outside i guess i guess yeah
in my in my original opinion i wasn't really
considering the foresees his own death at all
times thing was i huh he's also quite sad a lot
of time he's just like he thinks like oh no i
made all my sons like the fault lies with me
for like the red thirst and stuff and he's like
i had to kill a few of my sons who turned to
the black raid so he feels guilty he feels guilty
and sad a lot of time and even in there is it
unremembered empire i think or one of the other
ones he gilliman even says to him like are you
okay buddy he's just like no i don't want to
talk about it yet So he definitely is in F tier.
He needs it. Poor guy. Speaking of suppression,
Dante! Let's put him up here! Yeah, I feel like
that's a pretty easy pick. He's been around longer
than Sanguinius and he's just like, I want to
die! I'm going to put him above Emperor. That's
a tough one though because what else is there
to say to him that will make it better? like
in some way what is it like hey actually yeah
he's got his new responsibility i don't know
the same therapy you'd give anyone who's suicidal
but he's old like he's you know okay he's like
he's like oh it's all gonna get you know you
can find a way to make it better he's like what
do you mean like for the next two weeks converted
here first hell doesn't think old people should
live Dante's like, I was promised social security.
He's like, no, my son, you've got to keep working.
But I'm a thousand years old. You've got to keep
going. Please, Dad, no. Poor Dante. I mean, yeah,
it would do wonders for him. But it's also, man's
in a very high -stress job. and that's not going
away anytime soon so that's the thing of like
he probably maybe needs it even more to be fair
more than anyone else because it could actually
be more valuable ferrous menace oh god um yeah
i guess at that brief point before the end what
he was like can i just say unrelated i was looking
at that picture and took me way too long to see
it was ferris manis because i kept thinking that
was star killer holding a yellow lightsaber nice
he does have that look about him like that haircut
because it's a small like because it's a smaller
image like i just looking at it from like is
that Did Annie put Starkiller on here? Did we
get lost? Paris Manus being told by the Emperor,
your iron hands don't matter. They matter to
me! She was real to me! You said you'd keep us
around after the Great Crusade. I lied. I lied.
There was obviously a problem with the cloning.
Anyway, he actually reflects a bit on his iron
-handedness. A bit ham -fisted, if you will,
the way he does it. He's just like, oh, I'll
take him off one day. And I'll tell my boys,
you know, maybe unplug, you know, Starlink from
your brain. You don't need it. And then he dies
before he gets to tell them to do that. So in
that Isfahan massacre book that Colin definitely
was believing did not need to exist, but actually
was kind of good. I'm not going to lie. It's
actually quite good. He has a point where he
like, yeah, like. he seems a bit weird to uh
vulcan and korax and then korax actually korax
surprisingly the one who yells him like hey you
know what's wrong he's like he finally says like
did they even bother trying to turn you to traitor
and the other two are like no it's like exactly
why did they think i would you know like what's
wrong with me but they were like they saw within
me the possibility of being a traitor so he uh
he maybe has some things to work out you know
from how he thinks other people see him so yeah
probably top of b actually no maybe not more
than lucius i'm gonna put anger on here while
i quickly check where russell's waddled off to
i'll be back i mean i think the thing with anger
on would be like the therapy he needs is take
the nails out of his head but you can't really
do that you know yeah his it feels really I mean,
it'd be good for him, but it's also... No one
even bothered trying that with him. The Emperor
didn't be like, let me just hang around you for
a bit, you know? But it was almost kind of doomed,
isn't it? That's like properly doomed. He doesn't
have any respite or like, yeah, hey, I'm going
to get better. Damn. What are we thinking? I
mean, A. I mean, I'd say C. he's his whole thing
is he's always struggling with his mental health
like all the time and it doesn't help that it's
like oh you feel sad also you have a migraine
all the time that's his thing it's a sad poor
guy maybe maybe a little a little c just in c
just like just a little bit yeah it's like a
coat rather than he needs is take the the nails
out of his brain but you can't do that like talking
to him isn't going to do anything as long as
those are there uh corn the bloody i mean you
know What's the point with this guy? Does he
need therapy? At this point, he's fully committed
to Khorne. He doesn't need or want therapy. Before
that, he needed to stop making bad decisions
about believing his dad could be saved. Well,
as happened with Erebus, he was the therapy.
Quote, get up. Or that. He did get some therapy
in that instance. Yeah, he beat it into Erebus.
gilly mum i mean that guy is that is that is
depressing you know poor guy woke up you know
woke up and then saw the grim dark future and
was like okay where's the rope like immediately
i think he says like he says he even says just
for a split second you know better that horus
would win than um this happened but he doesn't
really believe that but like i think he says
like you know he speaks the lie about it but
he literally is properly depressed uh yeah ultra
mars looking like a fucking shit stain compared
to what it used to be the emperor isn't really
his dad you know imagine if you hadn't seen your
dad in like a good while you woke up from a coma
got out of hospital and when you went back to
him he's just like soldier slave child weapon
uh gilliman savior it's like what dad huh what
do you mean oh and then he's gonna be and then
everyone is looking at him to fix it all and
then he has to be a worker he has to be a constant
workaholic and he can't sleep Yeah, that's pretty
high up there. A nest here. And the firm is the
survival of the entire human race. Good luck.
Oh, no. Where's the other partners? They're all
gone. Oh, no. They're all gone. Oh, no. Yeah,
poor guy. Before we get any further, was there
any more donations? Yeah. Would you like to start
us off? There was a few. Yo, it's Mr. Townsend.
You can see him, man. Guess who's back? Your
Aussie lawman is back after getting 16 stitches
for a gash in my... How did you do it? Does this
happen to be snake -related? I'm sorry if that's...
Oh, what's up? I think he mentioned in an earlier
comment that there was a taut wire fence and
it snagged and cut him or something. Sorry to
hear that. I'm glad you've gotten the stitches.
I hope everything heals nicely. It wasn't a snake,
so there's no venom at least. So that's good.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, shellac sees wet as gripper for
two every day. Colin gets closer to a Chicago
marathon. No, I don't think I do. I go to Chicago
to see some friends. You know, it's fun to visit
Chicago. I don't, I don't know. People running
a marathon with a beer, but I'm not going to.
Yeah, I'll do that. It's a Chicago marathon.
People running away from it. I don't know. Trash
Fox Nurgles Worm Mind Virus? Whatever the hell
that's a name. It's quite the sentence. For 10
bucks. Been loving yours collabs lately. Never
know where I'll find you next. Also, damn you
Colin, I listened to your Battletech content
and now I have yet another sci -fi lore to fit
in my neuro -spicy brain hell. Glory to the Lyran
Commonwealth. Which one are they? The blue ones
with the big mechs. With the fist? Yes. Or Comstar.
Comstar first, but most people don't want to.
Which one's House Davian? Those are the Federated
Sons, the fed rats. Oh, they're rats. Because
when you start the game, it's like you're in
their territory, so I guess they're my friends.
I mean, they're usually the generic protagonist
faction of the setting, but they're fucking snobby
fed rats. Fair enough. Beastman from Sweden.
Would you like to read this one, Colin? Sure.
Thank you for the 65 SEK. Bjorn going God Emperor.
That was how all of this started. Not incorrect.
Also, Sigismund went headfirst into religious
psychosis and did not look back. None of the
Black Templars really look back. That's kind
of not what they do. Oh, here we go. Mr. Townsend,
20 Australian. Thank you, man. Aussie law time.
with a brand new co -worker. He's a cocky little
prick who no one likes, and he had a little bit
of an ego until he worked with me. I watched
him get chased by a cow. Did I help him? No.
But did I laugh a lot? Hell yeah, man. It's like
the tourists that go to Yellowstone and always
try and get close to the bison and take a picture,
not realizing that a bison can go from zero to
60 quite quickly, and that is a very big animal.
uh to be fair usually they just like jump at
you first you know like back off uh it's always
funny to see that usually because it's funny
because it usually doesn't result in a goring
because everyone gets the away from the giant
animal well hippopotamus that's a terror like
why don't we have death space hippos would be
cool like as a chapter the hip the deaf hippos
i want to see that uh like moding kleptomaniac
marines so that's my idea Watcher and the Derp
for two. We all know the Lamenters need it the
most. They just need to grow up. They just stop
being Blood Angel successors. And they'll be
okay. Just call yourselves Iron Hand successors
and you've both got a dead prime. And they're
not even sad. That's just part of the course.
Then every limb you lose is a bonus because it's
something to look forward to if you're an Iron
Hand successor. So there you go. Don't keep my
newest save of five bucks. Hellpit Abomination
will be perfect for my Gravemind kit bash. Check
out our Discord, guys, because this guy's got
some crazy shit for what he's working on. Gravemind.
Among them are all your sins. Would you like
to read this one, Colin? Morning Star V2U. Thank
you for the fiver. Emperor can't use his near
godlike biomancy to fix Angron's brain after
removing the nails. Skill issue. It was, I mean,
technically, yeah, it was a skill issue. He couldn't
do it. Also, he fucked up on Nusaria too. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. There was, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We would
not be good at an intervention for Angron's like,
oh, what do your friends think? I could have
done better. okay we're thinking more positive
things affirmations in the light how did that
make you feel like you had to burn a civilization
to its need uh bay beige luminati that's a hell
of a name for bagel illuminati sorry uh gilliman
would give his own therapist depression yeah
i think it'd be a malchador situation again yeah
um j townsend again To be fair, it's winter in
Australia, so no snakes for a while. Hey, that's
a positive. He's been from Sweden. 27 SEK. Did
Felix ever get therapy? No. No, he could have
used that. He just got laid. He did get laid
quite a bit. Would you want to read this one,
Hal? And one by Monty Scar for 20 Australian.
God, the Australians are up. Good to finally
catch you guys live. Cheers from Australia on
the way to work now. Clearly the ones who need
therapy the most are techless after what Colin
did. Probably the rest of you after hearing about
it. Yeah, thanks for reminding us. He was into
it. That's right. He'll be happy in nine months'
time. Exactly. Oh, dear. It's the space marine.
I lost all his limbs. He did lose all of his
limbs. To, like, Satan. The equivalent of Satan.
Oh, it's Abaddon. Oh, the arch traitor. He's
been around 10 ,000 years. He needs therapy for
when he gets his Phobos armor. Who knows? And
his Phobos variant, his scout variant. Another
Kalgar model, please. Also in his, like, origin
comic, it's like he watched... the guy who he
took his name from die to a cornet cultist and
then like he honors him by using his name so
maybe he thinks of him occasionally he's like
oh good old manias and then occasionally he also
wakes up screaming because he now knows that
titus is the main character of his faction and
he's further sidelined he's like no not again
he doesn't need it because he had that cool intro
so he says um i think he's doing okay He'd be
cool, but I think he's doing okay. Okay. Kato
Sicarius. Oh, he's not having a good time at
the moment. No, after he got lost in the warp
for, well, I mean, lost in the warp, so anywhere
from two minutes to millennia. And all his friends
died, yeah. Yeah. And he keeps seeing their faces.
He's on a guard. He's Victrix man. He's kind
of getting the therapy just by working with Gilliman.
Hmm. And it's like bonding time with dad. That's
not too bad. That's what I mean. If Malkador's
in C, then surely this guy's below that. Yeah,
you know, that's a fair point. Kate's like, oh,
a few of my friends died. Malkador is, I have
burned civilizations. And also, no ring. Yeah,
the lion, put him here. Put him there, I think.
Oh, here we go. Uriel Ventress. Are they making
his model? He got put in a demoncula bar. Not
fun. He has seen some. He had to kill a clone
of his own face. With his own face. Can you no
longer get Uriel Ventress? They don't sell him.
Not the Primaris one. I know that you can...
That's crazy. Oh, wow. Titus really did just
erase him. Titus took Uriel behind the shed with
a... It's your time, sir. I think they were a
little bit too similar, weren't they? They were
like, hmm, a bit too similar. We have Titus at
home. No, please. I have green pauldrons. I have
green. Uriel's... I mean, he's seen some stuff,
but again, I think he's just maybe above Kato.
He's seen a few things that are just slightly
worse than Kato, but he's not like, I have seen
things that shape me to my core. He's like, I
just got through it. Really? Honsu made a clone
of him, which he then was hounded by and had
to kill. He also was put into a demunculava,
which wasn't fun and was basically in a sweaty
chaos orifice for days, being cloned from it.
and then there was the whole like oh you almost
let an entire planet die to being eaten by tyranids
and then you got banished from the ultra marines
i feel like he's he's been through a fair bit
um yeah but like he's still got his mates and
like he's always chapped so he still has other
things other than being a space marine he's doing
all right man for like a night bringer and was
just like ah no problem i can deal with it um
Yeah, okay. We'll put it a little bit. I'll put
Makato. Okay. Because he's seen as much as another
Space Marine has seen. Hmm. Okay. Morty Raribron.
Oh, my God. This guy has issues, man. He has
so many issues. That's the thing. I would honestly
put him in S tier because with therapy, he would
have not been a traitor. Hmm. that's his whole
shtick is like he's got a complex he always has
some kind of complex and he's also like a massive
hypocrite is this so cruel when he was growing
up and the necromancer's like i'm gonna put you
in the tower where it's high enough for you to
breathe but but it's low enough to be like the
very limit of the toxicity of the atmosphere
so you're gonna have like really bad asthma and
you're always gonna be like you will never have
like a good night's sleep no like yeah fun thanks
dad thank you very cool um and obviously like
now he's a big smelly moth that's not fun yeah
he's got a childhood to work through uh with
someone and not you know the emperor should have
given him a therapist not a uh you know a weapon
and a legion he needed help here's a question
how Do you reckon it would have been better to
give him a therapist or let him kill his necromancer
father, which would have been more effective?
Better to fucking kill Typhus, to be honest,
than me. No, he should have... He needed to kill
his father. But then, like, that's the only way
he would have served the Imperium, as if he owed
something to the Emperor, you know? The Emperor
tricked him. Well, speaking of Typhus, is Typhus
the Traveller? Nah. you stink nah this guy doesn't
need therapy yeah he's just he's just in the
bad egg category like therapy is like the thing
of he like you could bring someone out of like
a funk or something this is that guy is the bad
smelling funk like yeah he is the funk yeah Literally,
any time Typhus enters the bat, it's like, we
got the funk! And all the Death Guard are just
strutting around with them in synchronicity.
Yeah, fun fact about all members of the Death
Guard, they're the best dancers of all of these
space marines. No, no, that's the Ultramarines.
There's a rogue trader supplement to prove it.
I'm joking. They're probably the worst of all
of them. They just come as like, time to do the
Nurgle shuffle. It's taken ages. Then you shit
your pants. dancing so good you will shit your
pants how many characters are we halfway we're
getting there don't worry we might make a move
on some of them he's alright he's okay he did
his character arc bad things kept happening to
him but he handled them as well as he could he
needs a vacation not therapy i feel like also
he had his faith he he had like a last hurrah
with like i'm gonna protect keela and i'm gonna
be like true to true to my faith and you know
the crisis of faith but then carol sinderman
and other people were there for him so like yeah
he reconciled with sigismund and dawn and everyone
and yeah um or the next oh no that's me merrick
voyne died by well i don't think magnus needed
therapy he needed an ego check I think he needed,
you know that thing in No Country for Old Men
that they use on cows? I think he needed that.
Oh, the little, like, what's that? Don't worry.
Get out of here. Get out of here. You're telling
me Magnus needs to flip a coin? So, yeah, he
needs to call it. He needed to be shoved in a
locker. Like, that fucking nerd needed to be
bullied more is what he needed. He needed therapy.
The issue with Magnus is he kind of thinks he's
too good for it. And I think there's no third
person that would get through to him. Like a
nerd with powers. He needs it, though. He desperately
needed it because he has a superiority complex
that he pretends he doesn't have. That's the
whole point when him and Demon Magnus is fighting
Vulcan at the Sea of Terror. He literally screams
at Vulcan, Don't you see? The whole Horus heresy
is about me, bro. Horace and the Emperor were
like maneuvering to get me. I think his exact
words were, I'm the most valuable piece on the
board. So he clearly was like, meanwhile, it's
the Magnus heresy. Thank you very much. Bro gets
bodied by two Space Wolf chapter masters in his
career. That's a big, that's a bad ratio of fight
losses, you know? And people don't even remember
the second one. It's also... mad i didn't like
that the last time we kind of see him is in there's
like a scene of him like one of the the third
mephisto books and he's just like ranting and
raving mad he's like speaking to like kind of
like demon crowds and they're just like yeah
yeah yeah like it's so weird he's got like the
equivalent of like halo rampancy for ai it's
just like information overload goes a bit too
far and you can't contain it all and just going
a bit mad and having like, I know it's a good
idea. I'm going to destroy all of humanity with
robots. Yeah, nice idea. Rampancy is no joke.
Yeah. Oh, this, I mean, he, I mean, he kind of
really needed it because if he could just let,
like his whole shtick is like, he thinks if I
just work hard enough. I can beat the god of
trickery in his grand scheme and save all my
friends. He needs therapy to let people go. He
can't do it. So maybe he does need it. He's maybe
in A somewhere. What stage of grief is he in,
Hal? It's definitely not acceptance. I don't
know. Even in his own novels, he keeps having...
He revisits a false memory of his twin brother
who died long ago. He's still... he's like he's
fucked up you know poor Ironman and he is quite
you know he he comes across as quite like a um
like he's not like an evil character all the
time but he's just like man it's like it's like
the Eldrad thing of like I will burn a billion
humans to save 10 ,000 Eldar like Ironman's like
I will destroy a thousand children die before
I let this company die Ironman would squish a
thousand orphans if one rubric marine came back
to life. Needs help. Well, this one here, Colin,
as our resident Horus heresy expert, because
you've read Horus Rising. I did. What about Horus?
I think he could have used some therapy, but
he needs like a cross. I'm going to say B tier.
He needed both therapy and someone to tell him
that you are not the end -all, be -all. You are
not king shit. You're not him. He's kind to him,
but he needed to be told, like, you're not, like,
you know, capital H him. Because he did, like,
a bit of a what's it called? Whiplash, where
it was, like, before he corrupted, he's like,
I'm not good enough. And then it was, actually,
I am good enough. I'm the best one on the board.
And it's like, yeah. He did a 180 on his motivations.
He needed the Wreck -It -Ralph villain therapy
circle. Just because you're a war master doesn't
mean you're a master of war. Master your emotions.
He needed help at certain points, but it's that
thing of he was almost too far gone. He was kind
of like, that's the whole point is like, the
reason Horace is like chosen kind of by chaos,
like he's kind of deep down an asshole. That's
what I said. He needed like a 50 -50, like a
shoulder to, you know, a cry on, but also someone
to just beat the shit out of him and ego check
him a bit. He needed to be brought back down
to reality. he needs that alfarius ability where
like he can walk through a crowd and just be
perceived as like a regular human because everywhere
he goes everyone is like trying to you know proverbially
proverbially suck his dick you know like yeah
oh my god it's horrors you know oh my knees for
us you know it's like it's just yeah like chill
man don't do that don't do that gross gross get
that coin out your pocket um so they'll worry
a lot garvey he's so garvey oh he does have an
actual mental breakdown when he becomes cerberus
so i think he needs a bit of therapy this is
zest here as well as paul i put him right next
to gilliman because like gilliman's like i'm
on the verge of a mental breakdown and garvey
or logan is like i had a mental breakdown first
time it hasn't ended my legion betrayed me uh
i watched all of my friends die on his farm three
uh my best friend got decapitated in front of
me i've been talking to his body for a few months
my mind broke i went back to terror and then
i got recruited into this weird clandestine order
then they sent me to caliban and then i ended
up killing a space marine we don't know if he's
loyal or traitor and i also went to work in a
garden for years to rebuild my mind terror happened
and i died so i had a little garden on the somnus
citadel and malka wouldn't leave me alone to
tend to my garden so i had to go seizure terror
womp womp uh poor garvey um i would say towards
the end logan had a bit of like a i've accepted
everything that's happened so far and also fuck
you samus samus just like chases him in the seat
of terry he's like so much of the man beside
you he's like this is the man and the urinal
beside you i think when i go to warhammer world
i'm just gonna whisper that to people in the
bathrooms He's going to be right behind us. Go
to the bugman's queue for a beer and just be
like, Samus is in the queue behind you. Samus
is going to have your beer. Get away from me,
Colin. I've got my fit check planned for Warhammer
World. Oh, nice. Trying to play a game at Warhammer
World. I'm not bringing an army with. I'm going
to level with you, dude. People have armies.
Go to a table and go, don't you know who I am?
And just smash them aside. Yeah, playing a game
of Warhammer might be someone else's army. Get
the fuck out of my way, loser. I've got three
armies. We know you're very happy to show them
off. I know. Abaddon. Abaddon how? Abaddon. I
mean, it's kind of an issue you would get with
traitor guys. They kind of just Always deep down,
Apadon is just like... Bro did take a gap year,
to be fair. He doesn't need... I don't know if
he needs therapy because he's like... I would
say he's pretty happy as an individual. He's
not miserable or anything. He doesn't need to
cope with anything. He's like, yeah, I'm just
the guy who's going to destroy the Imperium.
He's happy to turn up to work every day. Should
we just put him next to his blue victim just
to make him feel better? Oh, that time you've...
I feel better already, said Avedon. His blue
victim. Little Horus Axemand. Oh, that guy is...
That poor guy. I don't know how familiar you
are with Axemand's lore later, Colin, but this
guy is like... After he kills... I don't want
to say, I don't want to spoil it for you. Maybe
you know or not, but... Yeah, because I'm going
to read it. No, but as in like... horus axiom
man gets like haunted and he keeps hearing like
a voice whispering behind him for the rest of
the horus heresy and he literally is driven mad
that's kind of funny uh he thinks logan is like
haunting him but like he's like logan's dead
why is he haunting me and then logan shows up
in this new terror like i'm not dead and actually
kills him Also, Colin, a white scar called Hibukan
cuts his face off with a Zweihander, and then
he has to staple it back on, and it's all like,
and he's always looked like Horus, and then after
that, it's like, you look like a fricked up Horus,
bro. He's like, hey, fine. No worry about it.
Yeah. Some sharp iron hand steel being wielded
by a white scar. Not a good combo for his face.
Should we put him... I think he should be quite
high. Just want to quickly pop the loo back in
a second. Okay. All right, then, Colin. Logar
or alien? I mean... See, pre -Monarchia, he was
doing pretty fine. I don't think he needed therapy
at all. Hmm. Are you sure? I am positive. My
father is here to help me fix that issue I was
talking about. This is the worst timing. Okay,
I guess I'll do it then. I would say post really
quick before I also sprint off. My apologies.
Post heresy? Nah, a lot. But pre -monarchia,
he was fine. He was religious. The only sin he
did, he was religious in a society that hated
religion. That's not a sin. That is a need therapy.
my apologies the book burnings didn't help though
i will say well no that's not great but that's
not a therapy thing that's just he's a Well,
we'll get back to Lorgar, but for now, folks,
just because the other two have abandoned me,
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love australia oh and then uh then that one by
sobek good reference there uh five australian
hey boys uh you get me through work uh have some
dollary dues uh he just though we'll save it
for colin maybe he gets that but colin i blame
you for vtubers on my recommended they are reacting
to thankful how did it's true like how did warhammer
get we have such like a who's bricky strong vtuber
ricky single -handedly opened the floodgates
for vtubers now they're everywhere i was literally
on a collab yesterday and there was a vtuber
in like the kind of thing and she was like the
only reason i'm into warhammer is because i saw
that video by bricky i'm like yeah that'll do
it has it's uh it's it's nailed in so deep into
that i have you know i'm surprised it's such
a good overlap And Montescar for 10. Every day
I pray for any continuation of the Twice Dead
King. No spoilers, but the second book ended
on a really cool note, but it falls prey to Brings
the Anos Thor and therefore goes in the bin.
I've got to be honest, I don't think we'll ever
see it again. Sorry to say. Yeah, it's tough.
I mean, I think it was when it was originally
written. I think we know it was actually written
as one book. that was the thing and then it was
split into two that's why it almost feels like
it doesn't neatly like it feels like it joins
across quite well but um I wish they again if
the character you know the novels proved popular
enough they're always seem to be willing willing
to bring it back which we'd like it's been ages
though like even um trezin and infinite divine
that book is so well loved and yet that only
seems to be like one there's only one of it so
yeah pause it pausing us enjoys we don't you
know you don't get anything yeah unfortunately
uh so we were talking about lorgar um s tier
yeah he needs a he even then he like in his heresy
he wobbles so the guy is a you know But even,
you know, he's a horrible human being. Oh, Erebus
is the bottom of D by the way. Yeah. He does
not have therapy. He is. He's had therapy. This
is the result of his therapy. Yeah. Like he's
a bad egg. I will wear the therapist skin and
take on their social. What's their name? I'll
take their social credit. Yeah. Social credit
slash social insurance number as my own. And
I will, I will pretend to be them. he's just
like social security yeah he's just like he's
that kind of guy's like i will talk to the therapist
and i will reverse engineer their own mental
health spiral and then i will be the the chad
like oh here it is are you like this yeah vulcan
oh good could you use a little bit he's he's
not in a good place currently uh in the scouring
stuff he's like killing emperor's children he's
like want to join me in therapy and he's just
smashing emperor's children uh he could probably
go a because he's a vulcan's like he knows what
to do like he's like i'm doing the right thing
i'm venting i have my sons with me i'm talking
to my brothers i'm doing the right thing but
he's just having a bit of a tough time you know
there's a bit of a tough time yeah and at least
he's also like he he actually had like a good
relationship with his adoptive father and the
town he lived in and he he's good with his sons
like he's he's one of the most compassionate
the primarks that's his thing his foundation
is strong Yes. Corvus Birdman. Next to Perturabo,
please. Judge, jury, executioner, please next
to Perturabo. He is incredibly depressed even
before events happen. The man is just depression
in the dictionary. It's not a phase, Dad. Yeah.
Nevermore shall he smile. poor fella alpharius
omegon yeah both of them yeah i guess technically
it's only omegon because you know ferris is dead
sanguine is dead but they needed therapy but
you know kind of both they just need to be a
bit more like i don't think they need it they
were just like they made a tactical error they
didn't they didn't deal with any i guess to fair
the one that's still alive and the one who's
like lost his twin brother probably needs to
talk to someone maybe because they're like they're
kind of almost too rational and emotionless to
actually be like it affects me you know forever
yeah who's the next one is that grimaldus hello
you are now in charge of the hell's read crew
said oh i hate my life this guy is uh you know
you think at the end of hell's reach where he's
like you know all of you of the imperial the
crowd cheer while you're like still yeah that
guy in his s me yeah He's been for a lot, but
at least he had like the whole thing of like
I will never have a squad again I was gonna have
like these goobers carry the relics of our of
hell's reach with me I'm gonna be a lone wolf
now like okay Forgive me for living isn't it?
Well, give me I still live the earth I'll call
the cowboy Drago does not need any he is Perfect.
He just lives in hell and he's like is that all
you got? I'm still standing. You know, you're
lodging here with me. That's his whole shtick,
really. I did recently play for all of Chaos
Gate as well, and I liked him at the end just
being like, ah, we're going to kill Mortarion.
Jolly good. Let's go get him. Like, ooh, okay,
cool. Fair enough. And he does not care. He's
just like, we're going to write you. Cazalyn
Crow, maybe C. because the sword he wields is
kind of a massive like pain in the ass like it's
constantly whispering to him like yeah hey everybody's
like hey hey hey mum mum mummy mummy mama but
it's more like mum mum um yeah he's because of
his gimmick with the sword the sword is already
had issues though that's the whole thing of like
they're too perfect you know they don't really
need therapy Yeah. Geron Blackheart. This guy.
Therapy. Maybe to cope with like pain management.
Obviously his existence is incredibly painful
for his injuries. He's kind of happy though.
It's weird to say that he's kind of happy as
an individual for like the rest of what he does.
He's just in incredible amounts of pain. So he's
just maybe 80 to be honest. He does have a chip
on his shoulder as well of just like. I was trying
to help the Imperium. They didn't know. They're
stupid. And actually, I kind of am bitter about
how the Badab War went. And, oh, you know, Avedon's
an idiot and blah, blah, blah. He's always like,
he's not good at making friends, which is kind
of important if you're a leader. You've got to
have allies. And he's like, I have allies of
convenience. It's like, hmm, maybe you've got
to work on some of your anger issues and maybe,
like, forming bridges and not burning down everyone
you see. I would put him next to Axiomand because...
there's a similar thing going on there in terms
of like pain and see yeah he's not as bad as
axiom and hmm uh celestine she'd has no issues
she's she's happy that's a happy person the emperor
loves her you know she's doing great no she's
like i'm killing heretics have you ever like
read her book where it talks about like how her
process yeah uh but it's always that thing of
i had to say like it's almost there's pleasure
in the pain in terms of like it's pain given
of the duty of by the emperor so it's like to
give you an idea Her thing is that she basically
has to climb atop a pile of her own corpses,
find her gear, and then she has every time she
resurrects, there's fragments of her persona.
There's a crone, a young girl, and another one.
And she has to reconcile her guilt every time
she dies and resurrects, and she goes through
a trial of reestablishing her sanity each and
every time. I think she could use a bit of therapy.
Maybe. I'm not as well -versed. That sounds horrific.
She's pretty bad. Ephrael Stern, Psyche sister.
I know all of her, but I'm not well -versed in
her lore to really state. Her thing is... she's
kind of like a heretic almost because she's a
psyker in the sororitas which is bad but also
just like she she's seen as like oh how did you
get your powers well kind of through like these
demons infused me with power and i resisted their
allure and goes through like comic books i haven't
gone through a book book but the comic series
um where it's like oh she's she's got like this
inquisitor who's also there with her silas i
think it is and it's like you've got to stay
pure and the emperor and she and she's like ah
i'm kind of like a bit of a the black sheep of
the the sororitas and now she's got a friend
who's a harlequin or a former harlequin perhaps
because he doesn't wear a mask anymore and he's
like okay that's kind of Difficult like oh, what's
my kindred my sisterhood? Oh none of them like
me because I'm possibly a heretic. Oh great Who's
my best ally? Oh a harlequin. What does my order
hate Xenos? Oh great Oh, am I like fighting for
the Emperor? Yes, but am I also corrupted by
demons maybe? She's okay I'd say like put her
in I put her like near the lion I'd say because
she's going through a lot especially like her
transformation into a psyker is not pleasant
with like a big mound of like a combination of
like bodies all fused together and they're like
full of demon powers like we died so you could
have power and say uh um it's kind of weird um
jesus i'm gonna leave caiaphas until uh colin's
back um yarik ignore the second year he would
refuse yarik needs it but he would refuse yeah
he's like old man old men i'm too busy He would
not take it. Eisenhorn? Oh my God, this poor
guy. He's been through a lot. It's sad because
basically every one of his friends is like, he
lived too long. That's the problem with Eisenhorn.
Nearly every person he's ever cared for is long
gone. he probably needs to speak to someone but
weirdly enough he's like he's lived so long now
that he's almost like i've become okay with it
i'm like a weapon rather than a person i'd probably
put him in maybe just below horus because he
would he's been he's seen some horrific shit
he's also an inquisitor so he kind of horses
and be him top of near but like yeah he's seen
some stuff and he you know it's it's there's
too much going on the eisenhorn story to like
go into it but he's you know he's kind of okay
and he's not okay you know he's like a regular
person who's you know lived too long kind of
thing inquisitor gray fax so kind of a reluctant
friend of celestine trapped in time in trazen's
vault for many years and then is released in
the imperium as much changed from when she used
to be Like in her prime, she's literally witnessed
the rebirth of a Primarch, but she's also kind
of gone through hell to get there. She saw the
fall of Cadia. She was there during the Terran
Crusade. And then she also helped Celestine foil
a plot where she tried to overtake the Imperial
Faith. She's seen a lot. She's been through a
lot. Yes, I have heard of all the fanfics between
her and Celestina's, like, more than friends
because, of course, the internet did that. I
know, but I think she's okay because she's kind
of, like, she's not had anything that's, like,
stumbled her. She's more been, like, inconveniences
in the workplace. She doesn't suffer fools as
well. She's okay. I'm going to skip the Eldar
for as well because Colin. Silent King. it would
just be a pointless session wouldn't it he's
not he's not speaking he wouldn't say anything
uh i think he's already like he's probably needs
to at least mildly get something off his chest
but oh yeah just like hey you know that time
you like sacrificed an entire your entire species
to become mindless automatons more or less how
did that make you feel not great good we're making
progress after millions of years he's like over
it surely here's a fun for experiment how with
the silent king and the emperor comparing each
other silent king took all of his species at
the height of their power and just like made
them into a new thing but the emperor has been
like mulching them for millennia who's done more
damage to their species Because yes, humanity
is still running, but it's like... Let me make
a calculation. Hold on. Let me make a little
calculation. So the Sonic King technically killed
every single one of his own race, right? Because
of the... They got transformed into Necrons.
So there's probably quite a few... I don't know
how many Necrons there are. There must be a few
trillion, surely. They didn't have a million
worlds, did they? Because Eldar was still...
raining on their parade so they wouldn't have
had as much like yield as humanity and humanity
kind of infamously like has added like rabbits
they're like the cannon fodder faction in a way
so like has the emperor done more damage to the
species than the necrons did to their own if
this calculation is true because if the emperor
needed a thousand souls every day to a thousand
cycles every day I believe the calculation comes
out to about... How big is this number? So 365
,000 times 10 ,000. It's about 3 .65 billion.
Yeah. That's how many people have been sucked
into the government. That's just the battery
supply, yeah. Yeah. And then there's all the
millions of people fighting in the garden. Maybe
the Emperor's Kill Count might be possibly larger,
but then the Silent King for the War in Heaven,
which we don't know how long that went on for.
Who's the worst genocidal maniac? Maybe both.
I think the Silent King is... Not us. Yeah, not
you. Calm down. He went away millions of years
and he's shown back up, so I assume he's done
the work. He's put the work in and he's like,
I'm just on the path of fixing things, you know?
So maybe not bottom of D, but somewhere in D.
Hmm. Okay. Put them with the old men, all the
old men together. The old boys. Trazin. He actually
has a bit more compassion than a lot of Necrons.
This is tricky though, because Trazin's like
thing. is he's quite a happy individual, you
know, as they're saying, you know, he is like
a, I don't know what animal it is, but like it's
a thing in shit, isn't it? A pig in shit, that's
it. Abomination. I prefer honored guests. Like
he's having a great time. I don't know if he
needs to vent about anything. It's more of like
he would just do it to like, you know, just be
like show off, you know, as again, a grown man,
show off your plastic toy collection to not impress
your girlfriend. you know your non -existent
girlfriends uh so it would i think treason is
probably doing quite well uh slight trauma of
um being burned alive and being turned into a
metal thing um but he's over it i think somewhat
you know so he's he's doing okay he's doing more
than okay okay he's in better than silent king
he's probably next to fabius you know he's yeah
he's like i wouldn't change much uh i almost
forgot a mad scientist belisarius call similarly
a pig in shit although he has that whole crisis
of like he's kind of a father figure to alpha
primus and he kind of cares for him and there's
his gene father book he's sad when he's when
what happens to him happens and he's like oh
no i didn't mean you get hurt it's like and he
retains more humanity than people let would let
on There's nothing for Belisario's call to improve
on, to vent, or to get anything out of therapy.
He's just like, I'm just a man on a mission.
A thing on a mission. But he is using bits of
his personality and mind because of the sheer
amount of people he's plugged into his conscious
mind. So he's wrestling with that. Imagine having
schizophrenia on steroids. It's like, all these
people in my brain. It's a party in here. But
he, like, he can take them out. As in, like,
they're more of, like, he chooses to put in,
like, personalities and memories. Like, he can
literally choose to be happy. So I'd put him
next to Trez in because he's, again, he's doing
great, to be honest. He's so, he's joyous. Okay.
We got Oberon and Zandrek. Mainly Zandrek. Again,
they're kind of happy. A lot of the Necron characters
probably are just like, I'm doing okay, guys.
Just there's not really much more to them, really.
I don't know what they need to vent. You know
what I mean? There's no, like, help me through
a thing. They're just like, we're just conquering
our dead worlds. Where Zandrek has bits where
he confides in Oberon and talks about, like,
I'm not as, you know. He's already got a therapist.
He's all good. And he's massive. I mean, I mean,
come on. The guy is like, Gazgul is the happiest
person on this list, surely. Although he does
have his whole thing about trying to maintain
the war without killing his best enemies. And
what was it I was reading? Is it Grotsnik? book
there's stuff about like how he basically tries
to like make a better gas girl and gas girls
like now you can't replace me but then grotsnick
is like you're not even like a thing anymore
you're just like a vessel for gawk and mork you're
not like the gas girl i made you're just like
a you're just like a you're a bucket i think
he calls him like you're just a bucket for their
energies to go into you you're just losing yourself
and so i'm like maybe he's a bit like he doesn't
know But he has no issues, surely. This guy is
just... He's happy, killing. He's living the
best orc life there is. What a great one. What
a great time he's having. Makkari. Oh, that guy.
That guy, yeah. That guy needs to be on the fucking
watch list. For those who don't know, who's Makkari,
Hal? he's his little his little psyche his little
rodent his poor guy he's like you know the does
makari is there more than one makari basically
every time makari dies a new grot becomes makari
and then because gaskell is the prophet of gork
and walk he kind of infuses the memories and
personality of the previous makari into the new
one And so the law, I know they were like, oh,
they just don't have the heart to tell Gaz that
Makari's dead. But again, in the Grotsnik book,
I think, no, it's not the Grotsnik. One of the
books might be Grotsnik. I don't know. Because
Grotsnik hates Makari. He's like, you're stupid.
And he's all like, science is best. Gork and
Mork and religion is stupid. But then he's like,
I can't quite explain Makari because... ghazgal
doesn't work without makari and vice versa you
need both of them to complete the package and
if you don't have a makari then ghazgal gets
ill and starts falling apart and so he has to
like resurrect him in his story and so it's like
but the poor guy he's like i just want to be
good for the boss but also oh i keep dying oh
no leave me alone i want to hide under a desk
um I thought we'd bring some Tau in, because
why not? Aunchy? Eli's not here, you know. We
don't have to care about Tau. It's okay. The
only, I think, ethereal left on the board, because
Aonvar is dead. Aondo is dead. It's just this
guy. This guy's a very happy dude, though. He
is at one, you know. I would say he's also maybe
next to Gazgul. He's a very happy individual.
I don't know if he's got any... And also, he's
an ethereal, so they would not vent to anyone.
because you know that's dangerous it could cause
disunity in the empire but he's going to be doing
quite well that guy he's aware the only ethereal
to have quote come gutters so like there is that
look at that guy he's really have to go that
far look at this he's been working out he's been
eating healthy he meditates he's probably got
a very good mental health or the other tower
like he never married never married he became
he had to study the blade um speaking of studying
the blade an even bigger weeaboo it's farsight
he's had a tough time yeah he probably deserves
to go in a because he's been through a lot you
know he's lost his whole um civilization nearly
and he almost got corrupted by you know in some
way like chaos i think like fully but as in his
whole he had to like leave and go be a hermit
for a while and then he's fighting tyrannies
like there's a lot of pressure on this guy you
know he needs a break he i think he would probably
go in eight here somewhere okay he deserves he
deserves a break probably that poor guy uh let's
go next to lehman why not that's our Oh, sorry,
what have I done? Where did I put him? He goes
back in D. He's in end of B. Oh, there we go.
Yeah, far side. There, there we go. Hi, Colin.
We saved the Eldar for you and some others. We
just finished up the Tau, so don't worry, you
didn't miss much. I can hear the squeak. The
doggy has a squeaky toy. Dog! And Shasso case,
because... I wouldn't be forgiven by Eli if I
didn't put him in. He's happy. Happier clan,
that guy. He seems pretty happy being a murderer.
Is he though? Yes, no issues whatsoever. Did
you put him in a tub? That is not a person. That
is a weapon. Yeah, he's the protagonist of an
FPS game. He exists to kill. He's quite content.
The only thing they fear is you. Okay, Shadow
Sun. She's experienced the birth of a Tao god.
She could possibly use some therapy. Yeah. Maybe
B, though, because I don't feel like she's got
a lot. She's also got a bit of an inferiority
complex thing with, like, why girls are chosen
by her. She's in a rock and a hard place between,
like, Farsight is my, like, compadre. We, like,
are warriors, but also I kind of don't like where
the ethereals are going, and he's a rebel, but
also... he's a warrior and i'm oh now there's
a tao god oh no shadow sun it's weird books then
she's got some things to say but she's not dealing
with like a constant you know like life -altering
issues she's more just like uh i have some grievances
i say that's the best way but she has some grievances
a fine addition to her collection uh we saved
this one for you colin uh caiaphas cane I'd say
top of B tier. Because honestly, I think he just
needs a long conversation about why it's okay
to be afraid. And probably, you know, at this
point, I mean, the lie is too deep. But, you
know, someone should have told him at the start
of his career that, hey, man, it's all right.
No one's going to be that upset if they find
out, you know, it's fine. Well, I mean. i don't
know i well his therapy is he's got massive imposter
syndrome yeah he probably needs to find a way
of being like in a way like if he didn't like
the whole shtick is if like he realized he was
a hero or something he probably would get himself
killed yeah so i mean it's worth it you know
he's pretty old now and i mean canonically dead
Towards the end, someone could have probably
told him, hey man, you're not as full of shit
as you think you are. You can bring him down
to C tier then. Maybe he doesn't need that much.
Yeah, he's doing okay though. Yeah. Ivraine.
She needs to be shot in the street. You know
what's really... I have a prediction that people
in about four... maybe three to four years people
will go who like gen generally people are going
to say who is that like it will be it will be
an obscure quiz answer who is your brain like
because this person doesn't get anything i mean
i don't know about her in the same faction we
kind of have that with prince uriel don't we
do people know about prince uriel He at least
has like a novel and some stuff. Yeah, you could
use some therapy. I don't know enough about your
reign to like, stay where she is. Probably B
tier. I think just like general, you know, someone
to rant to. Kinda a lot of stress being the leader
of the Inari, not least because the Inari suck.
Yeah. she doesn't wear shoes she doesn't wear
shoes and all these like people on the internet
were like yes and like that was her one thing
um but that's a different type i don't think
i don't think eldred or asserman either need
therapy to be honest with you i mean eldred's
got a lot on his plate he does you know he does
have quite a bit on his plate But I think he'd
still be, like, bottom of C tier. Like, he'd
just need someone to rant to maybe once a week.
I don't think he's got any deep -seated issues.
Ever since Artemis reported his plans to kill
some nations, he's like, I kind of helped build
a god of death. Things are looking up for me.
He just needs someone to, like, yell at about
the bullshit hands he keeps getting. Asserman
is deep -seated about all. Zero self -esteem
issues, zero anything like that. He named himself
the Hand of God. I think Bro is perfectly fine.
I kind of just thought like Azamon, because Phoenix
Lords might as well put the one that people recognize
with James R. He kind of just gets back to it,
though. Combination of lots of people. Lots of
previous men. I assume just men with him in the
armor. All living together in harmony. See? Doing
alright. Lelef Hesperax. She would eat the therapist.
I don't think she's ever been upset at what she
does. I think she's pretty content. In fact,
I think she wants to do more. She doesn't like
the fact that she can't be in charge of her Coliseum
anymore. She doesn't like the fact that she's
been kind of exiled from Kormorah by Azdrabail.
And she's not really the biggest fan of being
the bodyguard of Ibrahim. But she's kind of like,
if ever I have to, I'll kill you. Yeah, but I
think all of those are just like, you made that
decision. You need to live with it. Those aren't
like deep -seated issues. That's just like, you
should have... done better with your career choice,
lady. Come on, throw a lampshade. You'll feel
better. She's not upset by anything, to be honest.
Is there one last one there as well? Yeah, where
were we thinking we'd let it before we do that?
DD. Yeah, that's again, you made your decisions
on that. That's not you need therapy, that's
you needed a better career coach. I feel like
that's another D tier. That's the bottom of D.
Yeah, dude. He's the opposite of... He revels
in being a shitter. He needs to be put down,
but I don't think he needs therapy. I think he's
perfectly content in his life. That man is just
pure evil. The most he might need is someone
to catch that rascal Jagged Eye. Depending on
how that plotline is going. I don't know what
they're going to do with that. Are they going
to explain like Jagtite entered the webway and
then just immediately exits? Wait a minute. Things
look different. I still think they need to combine
the White Scars and Harlequin and have the laughing
force. Laughter force. Pickle Meisters. Yeah,
the giggle clowns. And yeah, you could have light
white scars with the bikes and you could have
the harlequins and be fast moving attack. And
that'd be fun. Strike force funny. But yeah,
and that's pretty much the whole list. There
could have been some other people we added, but
I think to be fair, we've done a pretty good
bash of it. We did a decent few. to finish us
off. Also, by the way, Colin Sobeck said, Colin,
I blame you for the VTubers on my recommended
feed. My bad. That was one of the donations we
got. My bad, Pim. But shall we read a few more
donations before we close today's episode? NicholasRPMax,
thank you for the 500 yen. Hey guys, I'm curious
on your thought whether Magnus is a better written
villain or not in terms of how self -absorbed
or even pathetic he is. It's difficult because
he's not really like, he doesn't see himself
as a villain and the time when he properly is
as demon Magnus, he's kind of... Yeah, a bit
one note at that point. It's more of like a force,
you know, a weapon rather than a... character
so i wouldn't say he's a you know decent i say
decently written uh enough to make me despise
him you know i i'd prefer if like when logan
hit him with the big axe he got split into like
two or three and it'd be like the pink horror
thing where it's like you could have multiple
magnuses who are not as powerful as one big magnus
always getting in each other's ways and saying
i'm the one in charge and you could have like
some shenanigans rather than just he big Big
magic. Because then otherwise, nothing can really
beat Magnus. And then it's just, I'm so clever,
me get out of my way. And he just bulldozes a
lot of the problems out of the way. Whereas if
you had him fighting against himself, that could
be a fun way to do it. For what it's worth. Oh,
B -Town for Sweden. Yeah, Hal Volkan got ultra
tortured to insanity. Yeah, but he got over it.
It was alright. He got over it. He does seem
to kind of just have handled it. Yeah. He was
reborn and he was okay. He's hugging Dawn. He's
okay. Brain Flayer for 10 Australian. I'm not
sure whether sending Conrad Curse of Therapy
would either not work or make him well adjusted
in the way that Hannibal Lecter is well adjusted.
Good for Curse, worse for everyone else. Yeah,
maybe I'll make him blend in more. Darth Sasquatch
for two. Doesn't Gilliman have a female elf therapist?
He's got an advisor. I don't think that guy's
a therapist. Yeah. Oh, there's like the Ecclesiarch
dude as well. He's like, I like religion. Oh,
he's no longer with us. Oh, yeah. True. Isn't
the elder advisor that guy is like? I fucking
hate it here. Yeah, he is. I hate it with these
humans. I hate it. Someone want to taste one?
Monty Scarf with the five Australian. Gaz gets
frustrated with other orcs not wanting to fight
him and he's basically hurting very violent cats.
I guess, you know, maybe the orc version of a
therapist he needs, which is an orc to just nut
up and punch him in the face finally. And the
last one from NicholasRPM4X for 500 yen, I assume.
Also, call is C tier at least. He keeps making
robot clones of his dead friend Quovo. Quovo?
Quovo? QVO. Quovo or something. Yeah, something
Quovo. It is Quovo, yeah. But the friend is called
Freedish. Yeah, Freedish Quovo. That's the one.
Yeah. How about we put this fun name in there?
getting ambitious uh but yeah that's all from
us today oh hello colin's running after the dog
guests he's got guests that's all good guests
that's all right uh but that's okay thank you
all very much for joining us today uh we have
now completely fixed all of the uh the mental
health issues of all the characters we've mentioned
because it was definitely easy getting them a
therapist and they would have been fine because
that would have worked um you know magnus it's
like i don't need you huzzah flicks them away
with a blast of psychic energy lick my balls
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