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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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and welcome back to Lore Crimes. Hello, everybody.

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Yo, what up, fellas? God, that intro song always

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hits, like, so hard. I was telling you, Andy,

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and I know because you watch them too, that once

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I, like, had a panic attack because I thought

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it was recording, because Laserpig used that

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in one of his videos, and I was like, what? Yeah,

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he's used one of the ones that, you know, like,

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I think... some of the the other ones that things

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like ian have used you know that white bat audio

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and stuff like that yeah he uses that free stuff

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but hello everyone um eli might be with us uh

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we kind of said we might do an episode we might

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not and then he's probably asleep so he might

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wake up and go oh we're doing a thing um but

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yes today how what are we doing today this was

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your idea this was all your idea yeah um Daddy

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issues. We could still name that as the episode.

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Today we're going to talk about, well, we're

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doing a tier list, and it's about which one of

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these schmucks, which one of these complete psychopaths

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needs therapy the most. Probably all of us here

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do. Definitely some of the guys in the chat.

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You've said some foul things. With my family,

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I'm fine. Don't worry about me, I'm fine. It's

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just like Warhammer. It's pretty great. You make

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poor financial choices. You're into Warhammer.

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Let's talk about these cool characters in this

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setting, and let's talk about how broken they

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are. Bear in mind, this is only 40k characters.

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I've added an even spread, and for some reason

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I added Yarrick twice, because I think I was

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thinking one would be... Whoops. And I've tried

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to order them so they're all like legions first

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and then we'll go into like side characters.

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And if you have any that I've missed or you think,

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oh, what about so -and -so, I can add them as

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we go. But obviously we've got to start with

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the Emperor. Nothing wrong with this guy, surely.

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Also is S, he really needs therapy. D is he doesn't.

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Does he need therapy? Does it work on him? Surely

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he was there. I was there before therapy existed.

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I think that's further proof he needs it. I don't

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think it's will it work on him. I think does

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he need therapy? And I think the answer is a

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decisive yeah. But what for? Raising kids would

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be one thing. I think even if we're going to

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ignore any criticisms about his character, I

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think like 10 ,000 years on the ouch couch, he

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could probably talk through some issues he's

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been facing. Are we just going to ignore the

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biggest kill count of any human that's ever lived

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as well? Also that. I can't imagine taking a...

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Apologies, fellas. I might be a little bitch

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-made. I've never killed another human being.

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But I assume it doesn't weigh easily on the soul.

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Once you have a kill count that just can't be

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measured, I assume... probably talk to someone

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at least once about it you know i think he's

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got a taste for it to be honest at this point

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i feel like i think he needs therapy i think

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if i think no i think that's only more reasons

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he should talk to a psych and shall we not also

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glance over the fact that his his most documented

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arguably form of therapy was going to the last

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church on earth and burning it to the ground

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after having a debate i don't know i would almost

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put him like right in the middle in terms of

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i think the reason i don't think i don't know

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if he's necessarily traumatized by his own choices

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i think he's more of a i would do it again like

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i think yeah but like do it again yeah but like

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the therapy doesn't necessarily mean like oh

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i'm i'm functional you don't have to worry about

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it's like no you you shouldn't do that thing

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the emperor doesn't need to vent it doesn't need

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someone to solve his emotional issues he's just

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an like he just is that sure surely right he's

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just such a person back me up i think we should

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keep him at the top like surely this guy needs

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to take away his powers for a day working isn't

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the question it's does he need it i know it wouldn't

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work on him because he's too much of a stubborn

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mildly like he's a mildly dude again like ignore

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all his aspects of his personality he's been

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on the golden throne for 10 000 years i'm sure

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he could yap to someone about the hell that is

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he did walk into hell and came out relatively

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all right though we don't know how he was when

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he came out we just know he went in and came

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out we don't know how he was doing after the

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fact because he doesn't tell anyone What's your

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story, Big Emperor? I had to clone 2021 of my

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sons in order to make a great crusade across

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the galaxy to stop the voices I hear in my head

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from taking over. What is the name of that perpetual

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he left on Malak? Evia. Yeah. For all we know,

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she had to drag him out while he's gibbering

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and screaming after the fact. We don't know.

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We didn't fucking tell anyone. she has a direct

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quote of her saying i think i because i'm working

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on a video at the moment i literally have i think

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her exact words or something which is about like

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she she says he emerges basically looking the

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same but his eyes look older yeah yeah i no longer

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has a sense of humor they are yeah it's what's

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what's alivia remembered the gaunt aged face

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she'd seen beyond the glamours he'd been gone

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for no more than a heartbeat to her but she saw

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centuries carved into the face she'd watched

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go into the gate so basically he like he looked

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like he'd seen something but he was more powerful

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and stronger that alone i'm sure he could talk

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to someone about like again ignore all the facts

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i'm not a fan of the guy he he deserves someone

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to just talk to for a bit That just reminded

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me of that Ren and Stimpy meme of the guy who's

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in the bed and then he jumps up and his face

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is completely shadowy and just staring off into

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the middle distance. I'm only hesitant because

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I think there are more people who I think are

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much worse at cases, essentially. That's top

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of S tier. They'll just put him up above in S

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tier, surely. Fair enough. Valdor. King and Yeller.

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Brother. That's what he says. Always does what

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he's told. no free will kinder if it's post horus

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heresy i believe uh in the scouring book and

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and he doesn't he say like he literally almost

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can't speak yeah he's he's like he is so broken

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like he is on the uh the building of the golden

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throne he's just like Can I get you anything?

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No, no. I think when the Primarchs all meet again,

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he just shows up. He just stands there, just

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like a hollowed mess of a thing. And then he

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leaves the Imperium in failure that the Emperor's

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wounded. So, bad. I'm going to put him an A.

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I'm going to put him an A. Malkagor. Malkador

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we know had therapy with a cloned hybrid Eldar

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human thing. Oh yeah, that creature. So does

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he need more? Because he technically has a healthy

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relationship with it. He just clones a being,

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vents his problems to it, and then lets that

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person end themselves with all his convictions.

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I'd say put him in C because he has it. And again,

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this isn't the therapy the best, but he's getting

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therapy. In his own way. And, you know, I guess,

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I mean, nowadays he doesn't need therapy because

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his soul's been obliterated. Yeah. So, you know,

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he's a C -tier. He had his therapy and nowadays

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there's nothing to therapy. To be fair, his therapy

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is so bad it makes the therapist, like, grab

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the rope. Yeah. does he need it no which is also

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again why the emperor needs one even if that's

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a therapy that's just gonna be there's not enough

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there's not a shrink on the planet handled capable

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of that unless we forget his therapist ended

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themself every time he spoke to him and then

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was reborn and like mind wiped so it's like oh

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no this is a lot of baggage i have to I feel

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like he's a B tier. To be fair, he's kind of

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worked through a lot of it. That's kind of what

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I mean. Yeah, his Lion 40K book, he kind of does

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the work himself a lot of the time. He's like,

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yeah, I was a bit of a whoopsie, bashed my own

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son's head off. Happens to the best of us. But

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he's kind of worked through it. I'd say, you

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know what, I might even say C tier. Because honestly,

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I think if someone's around and just give them

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a hug and say, you know, it'll be alright, I

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think that'd be enough for the guy. Unless he

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saw the Emperor on the Golden Throne, he'd be

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like, oof. Yeah, well, only one bastard's been

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unlucky enough to do that so far, at least out

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of the Primarchs. I think he did see it at the

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very beginning of him being put on, because...

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oh yeah there's a bit where him him and the wolf

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king are like screaming because they're like

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ah and it's like we've kind of seen what's happened

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to him oh yeah yeah he's not become like a slush

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puppy quite yet but the emperor is like pretty

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like beat up he isn't like pruned out yet um

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asthma die ah repent would it work I don't think

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he needs therapy. I think D tier. I think he

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just needs to be locked away. Yeah. Like, no,

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he's just a moronic murderer. Therapy is like

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people who work with clay. The results are only

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as good as the clay you have. This man is not

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clay. This man is a hard rock. Who's the guy

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who showed up after him and got like a dozen

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beads immediately and Asmodai has like four?

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After years and years of service? I am talking

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about a character, right? I'm not imagining this

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guy existing. Isn't there a guy who showed up

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after Asma died and immediately was infinitely

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better at his job? There is a high sanctifier

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of the dark. He's not the guy in charge. He's

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an interrogated chaplain, but he's not the main

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one. No, yeah. The other guy is just more pleasant

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to deal with. So he's younger, but he also is

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just more like... diplomatic no yeah i know like

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but for those reasons like he showed up after

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asmodei and is just infinitely better at the

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job i think asmodei is better at getting like

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fallen he's not as good at running the the reclusium

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so therefore the i can't remember his name off

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to my head but it's like is it saffron i think

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saffron's like i run the guys but this guy knows

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how to get a fall and you give this guy like

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is that a is that heresy and he off he goes oh

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oh and physically getting them yeah he's he's

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unmatched but then there's the after party and

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i don't think he's very good at the after party

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part he usually just beats them to death yeah

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um again i say d tier for therapy though he's

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just i like there's he's just psychotic like

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there's he's he's just there like that meme just

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like call a therapist but not for me Fulgrim.

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Oh, Lordy. This is complicated. I think even

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Demon Fulgrim could use a therapist. Again, so

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I just want to make my stance real clear. I'm

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not saying the therapist is going to make him

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a better person. I just mean get over some issues.

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I think it's A tier for both. I think Demon Fulgrim

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could work over through that Rylenor business.

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That kind of hurt his pride quite a bit for my

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reading of the story. Oh, definitely. And then

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Great Crusade Fulgrim is a mess of, you know,

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insecurities, as they say. Great Crusade Fulgrim

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needed to be taught the meaning of the phrase

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good enough. Yeah. He's Ken -uff. He's Ken -enough.

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No one ever told Fulgrim he was Ken -uff. Which

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is really surprising considering at no point

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has anyone been like, yeah, full Grimm guy is

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really not it. No one says that. Ironic. He was

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never full Grimm. No. Boo. Boo. You love it.

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You love it. Shut up. You love it. I think Valdor's

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worse, I would say. Valdor's just a poor guy,

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you know. Fabius Bile. Oh, no, this is Detick,

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because this man has a very, very healthy relationship

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with the universe. This is a prime example of

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a human being who is completely just, he understands

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everything that's wrong. He understands hypocrisy

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and everything. He's like, yeah, I'm a hypocrite.

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Also, chaos is evil. Just evil. It's the worst

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thing ever. I hate it. that's okay uh also does

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does not value life really in any sense not even

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if he made it he's just a bad person like i'd

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say you know mentally he's pretty well put together

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he's just an asshole i just love the uh the exchange

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where he's talking to a demon that he wants like

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shot an experimental like acid into and melted

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him to death and banished him into the war but

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he's like i hate you and he's like i was doing

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science what do you want from me it's like the

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bit where he's also like us lanesh is like join

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me and he's like I reject your reality and substitute

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my own. And when about his business? Like, yeah,

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Fabius is no, I, I, I'm not going to, well, I

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think you're muted Colin. I was, I mean, pretty

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impressive. He told just Slaanesh that just full

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stop. It was Slaanesh. Surprisingly rational

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individual as well. Yeah. Although he lives in

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quite the irrational world. So, you know, he

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should come to terms with that, but I don't think

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that's a therapy thing. I think he just needs

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to wake up a little bit. Fabulous. And he's just

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like, jokes on you. I'm asexual. Oh, no. I can't

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entice him with my lust powers. Not enough that

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he didn't avoid looking at her the entire conversation.

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He knows. He knew. The opposite. Lucius. Oh,

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God. Mr. Lucius the Eternal. Are we talking just...

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like specifically great crusader overall because

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i think overall he's now in d tier because at

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this point he's just it's just like he's unsalvageable

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it's unsalvageable but also i think he's fully

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committed to the bit now uh if it was great crusade

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era specifically i'd say like a tier i think

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someone i think there could have been like if

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someone you know dedicated to it sat him down

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and talked through some issues maybe they could

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have made him not himself uh maybe maybe there

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was something to work with should we say b for

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like a middle ground of like it's pointless now

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but at some point it was pretty like needed the

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point when he was carving like into his like

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face to like take notches of his skills to say

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he could have really used a therapist Now he's

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like, hey, my skin regenerates. I don't care.

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I think if Saul Tarver sat him down for a good

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six hours one day and had a couple of brews with

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him, I think that could have done wonders. But

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now he just doesn't. And now it's just, you know,

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that's it. Jealousy issues, paranoia, insecurity.

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Let's be honest. Lucia had small pee -pee. That's

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why it was such a day. I got small pee -pee.

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Why is Saul so much bigger than me? I mean, better

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than me. That's not fair. Why is Saul so much

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bigger than me? They're in the showers after

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a battle and he's just sitting there with impetive

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rage. Staring at Saul's meat. Wow. Perfect person.

00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:52.659
Eidolon. Perfect individual. Does nothing ever

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wrong. The thing is, Eidolon is kind of like...

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I always imagine him with Donald Trump's voice

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sometimes because he actually speaks like him.

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I was like, I did nothing wrong. You know, murder

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was an act of self -defense. He's kind of a,

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I don't think he needs it. I was going to kill

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all the mega arachnids on my own. Totally going

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to do it. Didn't need you Luna Wells getting

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involved. Salt of it. Had it coming. Blood angels

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were not on the planet. Fake news. Wouldn't certify

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his country. I honestly don't think he even needs

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it. He's wholly... I've spoken to the Warmaster.

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He's a very smart man. A good friend of mine.

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Good guy. Ailon's not delusional. He's just like...

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He's like, I just like her. Yeah, that's the

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thing. Like, I mean, first of all, if we're going

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to judge if they need therapy by if they're a

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bad person, everyone on this list is an S tier.

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Hmm. It's also... A good chunk. Yeah. In his

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own, like... is like novella thing as well he

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goes through quite like a introspective transformation

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where here there's like two parts like one of

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them is he could become a demon and one of them

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is you know like basically he has his own like

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i am enough kind of moment and he's like i'm

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better not to be a slave like fulcrum i'm gonna

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be a man so actually you know pretty healthy

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so he doesn't May I disappear for a quick two

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minutes? Yeah, go for it. Don't talk about Iron

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Warriors. I don't think you'll mind. Oh, good.

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This is the perfect time. Yeah. All right. Parity

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Turbo. Quick, while Colin's gone, put him in

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the lower left. No, this guy is like S tier.

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I'd subscribe from back, Chris. Don't work. Don't

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be funny. You can re -subscribe after the stream.

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Don't just be funny. No, don't do that. This

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is S tier. This is the S tier. yeah petulant

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child man this guy my cast is bigger than yours

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he rages at people like if they do nothing wrong

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he does he'll just like grab a little toy doll

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and like yeet it across the room oh my god what

00:19:10.750 --> 00:19:15.250
a petulant child this poor man and he thinks

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he's like i'm the tough guy i'm the tough guy

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he's he's He'll bash his head against a wall

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to prove that he's harder than the wall. And

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then Perturabo said, how big is your Bugatti?

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And everyone went, cringe, cringe. Yeah, he needs

00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:35.839
it desperately. Yeah. Opposite end, Barabas Dantio.

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Yes, he did sear a mask onto his own face, but

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that was a cool moment. That was like, hey, look.

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It's a symbolic gesture and it's all for a good

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cause. He made it a little bit like in C, just

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to cope. He's been through a lot. He got abandoned

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by his own legion. They tried to kill him a few

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times. I feel like he got his therapy, though.

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In his exile, he got to build his own little

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perfect fortress. He got to... It was alright,

00:20:06.609 --> 00:20:09.630
yeah. He would value it. He'd be like, yeah,

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let me talk to Alexis Pollux a bit more. Let

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me chill with the boys. I think in the form of

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his banishment, he got his therapy. He just got

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to go play Lego off in the corner of the galaxy

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for a while. Yeah, I think he's okay there. I

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think he's fine. Honsu. Again, I don't know if

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this guy... needs help he's just more of like

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he's happy the way he is i mean i think he enjoys

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being a monster like i don't think it's a therapy

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thing i think he's just a bad egg Although he

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does have like, he lets his intrusive thoughts

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get the better of him because there's that point

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where he meets Euron Blackheart and he's a bit

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uppity with him and Euron just stabs him in the

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guts and is like, you gotta do that again. He's

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like, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He's

00:21:02.180 --> 00:21:04.720
kind of like a rat. He's a bit of a rat. He's

00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:06.940
competent, he's good strategy, he's a good fighter,

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but also he isn't like a Primarch, he isn't a

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Warmaster level. He's up there. But he doesn't

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know when to shut up, and he doesn't know quite

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when to let his vision... I think he needs a

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knock on the head. I think at that point, he

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needs a life coach, not a therapist, though.

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He needs someone to be like, hey, asshole, now's

00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:27.180
not the time. I think D tier, though, because

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again, he's like, I don't see the problem. He's

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like, I'm doing great. So he wouldn't value it.

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Andy, I feel like this is the only time you're

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going to let me get away with saying Jagged Eye

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belongs in D tier. I feel like he's pretty, you

00:21:41.059 --> 00:21:45.130
know... literally the levelest, headest Primarch

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there is, really. Although, we should say, you

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know, he's probably feeling some type of way

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after being in Comorat for 10 ,000 years, surely.

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And to be fair, I'm going to actually move it

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up on D, because of when Targutai Yasugai died,

00:22:04.309 --> 00:22:07.380
he was well sad about that. I don't know. like

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best mates i don't think you well all right i

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guess you know some therapy for that would help

00:22:11.579 --> 00:22:14.460
but i mean i just feeling sad and angry that

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your best bud died i don't think that's a sign

00:22:16.539 --> 00:22:18.779
yeah therapy necessarily i think that's a sign

00:22:18.779 --> 00:22:22.480
you have a functional moral compass yeah and

00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.019
he would like he'd be like even if he went i

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think this is stupid he'd attend the sessions

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and be like all right i'll take it under advisement

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yeah right whatever you'd hear you out and then

00:22:30.900 --> 00:22:34.190
you go right i'm going to ignore that or no I

00:22:34.190 --> 00:22:36.289
will actually incorporate that in secret. Do

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it my way. Before we get any further, should

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we address the... Have there been any donations?

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Yes. Borborgimus Rumblesnort. For five, my first

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pick, Malekith. Giga mummy issues, burned alive,

00:22:55.750 --> 00:22:58.450
thousands of years of bitter exile, chronic pain,

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armour fused to his flesh, plessy abish. We'll

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do a fantasy episode about this, because there's

00:23:03.849 --> 00:23:07.069
quite a lot of delving into, because Malekith

00:23:07.069 --> 00:23:10.309
is an interesting... You are quite right, though.

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Yeah. See, the problem is every time he tried

00:23:13.750 --> 00:23:16.150
to get therapy, his mother would kill the therapist

00:23:16.150 --> 00:23:19.789
so he wouldn't get fixed. The mummy issues is

00:23:19.789 --> 00:23:22.730
probably the hardest -hitting thing on the bill.

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He nearly got his wife back after becoming Malekith.

00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:29.759
Well, you know, king of the drukie. And then

00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:33.980
his mother killed his wife. Kill the wife. Ape

00:23:33.980 --> 00:23:39.859
kill wife. Ape sad. Malekith sad. Mother of Malekith,

00:23:39.859 --> 00:23:44.460
ape feel good. Malekith, not Phoenix, Lord. Malekith

00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:49.019
sad. Phoenix King, please. Sorry, you know what

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I mean. Donkey Man, I will say thank you again,

00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.960
brother. Two bucks streamlates you to hell, gooning

00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:58.849
to therapy buzzwords. Responsibility. i appreciate

00:23:58.849 --> 00:24:01.670
the fact that every stream there's been one of

00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:03.970
those from you that at this point has been incredibly

00:24:03.970 --> 00:24:08.529
consistent at this point you just by sheer volume

00:24:08.529 --> 00:24:10.890
alone you have to be one of lore crime's top

00:24:10.890 --> 00:24:17.329
supporters thank you man thank you thank you

00:24:17.329 --> 00:24:20.329
shark see that picture again it's amazing that

00:24:20.329 --> 00:24:24.089
picture the gnome the cheat up gnome finally

00:24:24.089 --> 00:24:27.900
a tier list i could be on Wow. Member for 18

00:24:27.900 --> 00:24:31.400
months. Thank you, man. Thank you. Angry Homunculus

00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:34.079
for 12 months, one year as a member. Thank you.

00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:38.240
How late can I comment my obscure chapter? In

00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.759
what way? What do you mean? From the poll we

00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:44.619
did last week, I think, or the week before. We

00:24:44.619 --> 00:24:47.180
did obscure chapters, didn't we? Oh, I see. Might

00:24:47.180 --> 00:24:52.440
be a few weeks out. But also, YouTube comments

00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:57.079
are free. You can do that whenever. Yeah. How

00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.440
did I say this one, Colin? Beastman from Sweden.

00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.819
Thank you for the 65. S -E -K. Baldor learnt

00:25:02.819 --> 00:25:04.640
the true name of every demon he killed in the

00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.940
siege. Yeah, the man needs therapy. That's probably

00:25:06.940 --> 00:25:09.200
not great, having those rattling around in your

00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:13.720
head. Oh yeah, he relived the life of each person

00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:17.680
he kills, doesn't he? With that spear. When he

00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.900
kills demons. Yeah, he experiences their essence.

00:25:22.059 --> 00:25:25.200
He understands them. He just got S'd here because

00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:28.299
he stabbed Abaddon. When he saw the Doom of the

00:25:28.299 --> 00:25:32.500
Imperium. Yeah, he saw the despoiler. You know

00:25:32.500 --> 00:25:35.759
that scene in Kung Fu Panda where he's fighting

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:40.240
him and he sees that flashback of Kai Lung as

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.460
a baby and then he punches him. Oh yeah, Tai

00:25:42.460 --> 00:25:45.579
Lung. Yeah, Tai Lung. What's he going to do?

00:25:45.619 --> 00:25:48.799
Sit on me? Yeah, great moment. Great film. I

00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.299
actually love Kung Fu Panda. Kung Fu Panda, the

00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:57.390
first three movies are all goaded. yeah i would

00:25:57.390 --> 00:26:00.690
say the person there's like a new version of

00:26:00.690 --> 00:26:02.809
that going around where like the guy's absolutely

00:26:02.809 --> 00:26:05.829
hysterically giggling to himself because he saw

00:26:05.829 --> 00:26:08.289
the meme of like you mixing up the chinese babies

00:26:08.289 --> 00:26:10.450
or something before and then he watches the film

00:26:10.450 --> 00:26:14.230
after and he's pissing himself because he's watching

00:26:14.230 --> 00:26:16.910
that exact same singing that same scene in tai

00:26:16.910 --> 00:26:20.269
long is just like yeah i'm just saying i think

00:26:20.269 --> 00:26:28.380
poe could take out a primark Orc with a bow,

00:26:28.539 --> 00:26:34.559
five bucks. Hey Jets, hope you all are well.

00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.500
This orc found the Warhammer 40k battle manual

00:26:37.500 --> 00:26:41.380
from 1992 in near perfect condition for 13 bucks

00:26:41.380 --> 00:26:45.579
and it's beautiful. Nice find. If you ever want

00:26:45.579 --> 00:26:47.960
to find an old book or codex, go to a second

00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.920
-hand bookstore first because... If it's there,

00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.960
it'll be quite cheap compared to eBay of $5 million,

00:26:55.380 --> 00:27:00.039
please. I got First Strike, the Halo book, and

00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.759
it was like £4. Oh yeah, dude, go to second -hand

00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.500
bookstores if you ever want this specific book.

00:27:04.500 --> 00:27:08.000
Anytime you go past an Oxfam, just check out

00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.859
the Sci -Fi Fantasy section just in case. Anytime

00:27:10.859 --> 00:27:14.279
you pass by, just quickly just go... I didn't

00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.039
get them because I already had the omnibuses,

00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.299
but I think I saw the first six Gotrick and Felix

00:27:19.299 --> 00:27:22.299
books at a... local bookstores to go to. I saw

00:27:22.299 --> 00:27:26.359
some MechWarrior, MechAssault. Ooh, that's...

00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:33.079
Yeah. Four pounds. Nice. Wait, I don't know.

00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:38.299
Did we read this one? Yeah. So, Rodolf, 6093

00:27:38.299 --> 00:27:40.980
for $4 .99. I'm a public defender and our bail

00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:42.920
hearing clients are brought in shackles to court.

00:27:43.099 --> 00:27:45.240
Worst part is the shackles remind me of the exploders

00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:50.059
from DS2. Bad. Oh, no. It's almost like debuffing

00:27:50.059 --> 00:27:53.200
your entire case before you begin. Your Honor,

00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.720
I was watching Law Crimes. In the courtroom?

00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:01.160
No. Donkey Man USA for $5. Thank you, man. I'm

00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.460
Law Crimes' top guy. Law Crimes needs me to insult

00:28:04.460 --> 00:28:07.410
Hal every week. Yeah, pretty weird existence.

00:28:07.829 --> 00:28:10.529
Thank you, man. Just so you know, Hal thinks

00:28:10.529 --> 00:28:13.029
of you every night before he goes to sleep. In

00:28:13.029 --> 00:28:17.369
a good way. With my cock. He's all cosy. He just

00:28:17.369 --> 00:28:21.910
goes, just think, the end of the week, he's gonna...

00:28:21.910 --> 00:28:25.750
I yell out every single donator's name. The top

00:28:25.750 --> 00:28:29.910
of my lungs. Hey, Spooky Kabuki, Marathi, be

00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:38.099
like, I'm a boy mom. Evil. I'm a boy, man. So,

00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:41.079
yes. So, are we going to put up Valdor a little

00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:42.759
bit higher because of the whole stabbing Abaddon?

00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.759
I forgot all the extra things. That poor guy's

00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:50.000
been through a lot. Yeah. Rust is detailed, by

00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.579
the way. Nothing wrong with it. Actually, no.

00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:55.900
End of the Siege of Terror, he's in mourning.

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.880
The poor guy is a bit sad. He would actually...

00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:04.230
Is it the appearance he has in... prospero burns

00:29:04.230 --> 00:29:07.170
where he's like talking to a space marine and

00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:09.549
it's like oh his his primal book his problem

00:29:09.549 --> 00:29:11.190
oh his primal book sorry yeah yeah and he's all

00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:14.829
like oh my regrets my life uh i'm going off to

00:29:14.829 --> 00:29:20.470
find the tree of life like i i really hope they

00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:22.549
bring him back to the setting as like a wise

00:29:22.549 --> 00:29:28.130
white beard like proper like grizzled but also

00:29:28.130 --> 00:29:31.750
like tempered soul rather than just it's crazy

00:29:31.750 --> 00:29:33.690
viking man again so i know i wanted to be like

00:29:33.690 --> 00:29:37.490
measured and patient and completely like changed

00:29:37.490 --> 00:29:39.430
because i think that would be a nice character

00:29:39.430 --> 00:29:43.170
arc um kind of like with the lion i suppose he's

00:29:43.170 --> 00:29:46.390
also and yeah but we'll see uh so he needs a

00:29:46.390 --> 00:29:49.890
little bit of therapy uh logan speaking of a

00:29:49.890 --> 00:29:52.789
old viking with a white beard logan grim near

00:29:52.789 --> 00:29:56.710
uh not looking for me um i think b's good Because

00:29:56.710 --> 00:30:01.130
he's old enough to be like, I'm ready for my

00:30:01.130 --> 00:30:03.970
good send -off. Do you know what I mean? So he's

00:30:03.970 --> 00:30:06.710
seen some shit. And also, I think I remember

00:30:06.710 --> 00:30:10.289
it from the Ragnar books where it mentions when

00:30:10.289 --> 00:30:14.589
the Space Wolves are training, they have their

00:30:14.589 --> 00:30:19.269
little fledgling group, their little claws. And

00:30:19.269 --> 00:30:23.390
usually they're friends for life. And I think...

00:30:23.690 --> 00:30:26.789
in one of ragnar's books the last of logan's

00:30:26.789 --> 00:30:31.029
like initial friends uh does die like in the

00:30:31.029 --> 00:30:32.769
beginning of one of the novels i think is it

00:30:32.769 --> 00:30:35.069
the fourth or fifth book i think it might be

00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:38.710
but he's very much like damn i'm like one of

00:30:38.710 --> 00:30:41.130
the last ones you know i'm on the older the older

00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:43.549
crew so i think he'd appreciate like a little

00:30:43.549 --> 00:30:47.240
bit but also I don't know if he'd want it. He's

00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:48.799
like, what are you going to change? There's nothing

00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:53.380
to change. He would unironically say you can't

00:30:53.380 --> 00:30:55.559
teach an old dog new tricks. That's what he'd

00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.059
say. Then proceeds to howl at the moon. Yes.

00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:07.859
Any opinion, Colin, on Logan Grim now? No. I

00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:12.859
got nothing. Okay. Doesn't think of him. I tend

00:31:12.859 --> 00:31:18.779
not to. Brick wall. Well, that's an S too, immediately.

00:31:19.660 --> 00:31:23.640
That is a very broken man. I just missed someone

00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:29.900
important. Keep going. I'll add him. He's the

00:31:29.900 --> 00:31:33.140
emperor. He gets trapped in the corn dimension,

00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:38.240
the little corn desert for who knows how long.

00:31:38.339 --> 00:31:40.000
I think it's the amount of time where even his

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.079
weapons rust away, don't they, or something.

00:31:42.380 --> 00:31:46.869
Yeah. He has to keep saying his name. He's there

00:31:46.869 --> 00:31:50.190
so long he forgets his own name. It's pretty

00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:53.710
bad. And then he arrives back on the weird terror

00:31:53.710 --> 00:31:56.230
scape and then it's, you know, the Emperor's

00:31:56.230 --> 00:32:00.630
basically dead. And there's the haunting moment

00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:02.549
where in the scouring he's like, I put him on

00:32:02.549 --> 00:32:05.930
the throne and he said, now? Or did he say no?

00:32:06.750 --> 00:32:10.130
uh like that kind of did i just do humanity forever

00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:13.049
by my actions but what else was i supposed to

00:32:13.049 --> 00:32:18.250
do oh no uh yeah and then what will be the iron

00:32:18.250 --> 00:32:22.809
cage coming up so you know he's he's a not very

00:32:22.809 --> 00:32:26.349
happy man he needs help he's the epitome of just

00:32:26.349 --> 00:32:28.630
like don't discuss your feelings bottle it up

00:32:28.630 --> 00:32:33.480
until it like reaches a fever loads yeah And

00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.359
we all know about that scene with Garrow where

00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:37.460
he almost beats him to death for just saying

00:32:37.460 --> 00:32:40.480
that maybe Horace was a traitor. So like, yeah,

00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:46.400
trigger finger temper right there. Is that Bjorn?

00:32:46.779 --> 00:32:49.619
This is Bjorn. I forgot to add Bjorn. He's been

00:32:49.619 --> 00:32:52.880
for a lot. He lives in a box. I think A though.

00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:56.299
I think A, like he's still somewhat like, again,

00:32:56.339 --> 00:32:59.299
he'd be like, there's nothing to do about it.

00:32:59.539 --> 00:33:03.250
It just is what it is. He would appreciate it,

00:33:03.269 --> 00:33:05.509
though. He just wants to talk to someone who's

00:33:05.509 --> 00:33:08.230
as old as him, really. But also, just remember,

00:33:08.329 --> 00:33:13.490
he's not seen his limbs or face or hands for

00:33:13.490 --> 00:33:16.869
thousands of years. He hasn't felt much beyond

00:33:16.869 --> 00:33:21.660
pain. He lives in a dark room. and he barely

00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:23.799
sees the light of day, and he's woken up. He's

00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.700
got a weird sleep schedule, and everyone treats

00:33:26.700 --> 00:33:29.259
him like a ghost -slash -legend, and all of his

00:33:29.259 --> 00:33:31.700
friends are dead, and his dad's missing. I think

00:33:31.700 --> 00:33:34.700
he should be quite high up there. Like, Bjorn's

00:33:34.700 --> 00:33:36.960
a badass. He also hates Gilliman. He's like,

00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:41.759
Gilliman! Legionbreaker Gilliman! Kill him! Kill

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.480
all Ultraman! Well, alright. That's a little

00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:51.569
excessive, please. I feel like as I think the

00:33:51.569 --> 00:33:54.329
only dreadnought on this list, we got to put

00:33:54.329 --> 00:33:56.269
them up there because that's not a fun time for

00:33:56.269 --> 00:33:59.910
anyone. No, the process of going into one, like

00:33:59.910 --> 00:34:02.009
even if after the fact you're completely well

00:34:02.009 --> 00:34:04.930
put together, it's like use a bit of something.

00:34:05.130 --> 00:34:10.940
Oh, pardon me. I do like the exchange in, I think

00:34:10.940 --> 00:34:13.400
it is Prospero Banzai, where it's just like Casper's

00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.179
with the dreadnoughts. They're like, could you

00:34:15.179 --> 00:34:18.260
stop talking? You'll make so much noise. We're

00:34:18.260 --> 00:34:20.900
trying to rest. You'll get used to it. We just

00:34:20.900 --> 00:34:23.500
rest and we sit here and we sit here and we rest.

00:34:23.659 --> 00:34:25.659
And then eventually we wake up and say, what's

00:34:25.659 --> 00:34:27.639
going on with these guys? Like, you talk too

00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.179
much. Let us sleep. And it's like, they're so

00:34:30.179 --> 00:34:37.920
miserable and patient. Oh, Sigismund. I don't

00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.840
think he feels he needs it, though. He probably

00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.079
does need it, but it's a thing of, if I have

00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:48.519
therapy, I'll be a worse version of what I could

00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:51.780
do for the Imperium. So he'd be like, nah. Nah.

00:34:52.940 --> 00:34:55.760
Goes out like a badass as well. he's just like

00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:00.179
my my therapy is impaling abaddon through the

00:35:00.179 --> 00:35:02.599
god be like you're a bitch like wow nice one

00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.079
sigismund it's pretty good he's gone beyond hate

00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.179
he hates so strong that he's just like i don't

00:35:08.179 --> 00:35:11.380
hate you i'm just going to destroy every single

00:35:11.380 --> 00:35:14.440
atom of your existence because that is what i

00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.880
have to do And he has got his whole, like, faith

00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:20.420
shtick, where he's like, ah, I'm a believer.

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.019
I couldn't leave her if I tried. So he finds

00:35:24.019 --> 00:35:25.400
a bit of, like... Yeah, you know Sigismund from

00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.300
Shrek 3? Yeah, yeah. That ending scene? Yeah,

00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:32.820
yeah. Oh, man. Okay, well, this is the S of S

00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:36.940
tears, isn't it? Surely. Yeah. What's to say?

00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:41.500
Conrad Kurz is, um... He needed a shoulder to

00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:46.579
cry on. immediately, you know, Nostromo is traumatizing.

00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:50.019
Seeing visions of the future basically every

00:35:50.019 --> 00:35:53.900
day is traumatizing. The poor guy needs it. He

00:35:53.900 --> 00:35:57.639
needs a fucking break. Oh, jeez. Conrad Kurz

00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.639
is a top of S, by the way. Oh, I mean, yeah,

00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.679
there's... He's on the thumbnail. Yes. Yeah.

00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.780
That guy is... He hates it. Oh, would you like

00:36:10.780 --> 00:36:13.340
to join me for the tea party? What's in the teapot?

00:36:13.340 --> 00:36:17.500
Tea? That's not tea. That's effluent. About 30

00:36:17.500 --> 00:36:19.260
minutes, by the way, gents. I will once again

00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:22.739
need to disappear because my garage door opener

00:36:22.739 --> 00:36:27.059
is now not working. Hooray! Because there was

00:36:27.059 --> 00:36:29.320
no power yesterday, I had to disconnect it so

00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.820
I could open it manually. And it's not going

00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:36.900
back in until I just open. Oh, shit. The next

00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:42.150
one is Talos. He's all right, to be honest. I

00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:46.369
don't think he... His own story is more of a...

00:36:46.369 --> 00:36:49.449
Like, he needed therapy in the beginning, but

00:36:49.449 --> 00:36:53.010
towards the end, he's just more like... His whole

00:36:53.010 --> 00:36:56.289
thing is like, I'm dying anyway. Let's go out

00:36:56.289 --> 00:36:58.730
with a boom. But again, that's something where

00:36:58.730 --> 00:37:00.829
if you said that in real life, you need to see

00:37:00.829 --> 00:37:03.050
a therapist. There's more to life than... He

00:37:03.050 --> 00:37:06.530
was dying, as in, like, his gene scene was not

00:37:06.530 --> 00:37:11.409
with his body. he's also like he owns slaves

00:37:11.409 --> 00:37:16.869
i mean he he's like he he's not exactly like

00:37:16.869 --> 00:37:19.090
well put together like none of the legion the

00:37:19.090 --> 00:37:22.360
eighth legion are but he's like He makes a lot

00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.619
of excuses. He has a bad way of problem solving.

00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.880
He tries to be like, I'll have a heroic last

00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.719
act. But even then, it's like wasn't really heroic,

00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.619
was it? It was like it was a bit selfish and

00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:36.380
a bit like, oh, I'm just going to get like a

00:37:36.380 --> 00:37:39.840
bunch of my men killed in the process. He could

00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.260
use a I'd say he could use a fair bit of therapy.

00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.920
I, I just think they're better examples, like

00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:50.610
because in his own trilogy, he kind of. like

00:37:50.610 --> 00:37:52.269
you see more towards the end especially in the

00:37:52.269 --> 00:37:56.530
third book like he likes being bad like his whole

00:37:56.530 --> 00:37:58.989
his character art comes about where it's like

00:37:58.989 --> 00:38:01.869
he's he's quite miserable and he's like what

00:38:01.869 --> 00:38:03.570
are we even fighting for and to the end of it

00:38:03.570 --> 00:38:07.230
he's like i'm ready to kill imperials i'm so

00:38:07.230 --> 00:38:11.010
ready to win this war so he's kind of he almost

00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:13.989
talked his way out of needing therapy towards

00:38:13.989 --> 00:38:15.849
the end he would need a little bit i'll put him

00:38:15.849 --> 00:38:19.820
in beta but he's very uh I mean, like he, he

00:38:19.820 --> 00:38:22.179
needed it. He's almost too far gone. Do you know

00:38:22.179 --> 00:38:24.860
what I mean? Like he, he's like, I'm fundamentally

00:38:24.860 --> 00:38:29.239
an astronomer. Like I like hurting people. So,

00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.420
you know, he's, he's a, he's a bad, he's a bad

00:38:32.420 --> 00:38:40.780
egg. Savarta. Hmm. That's a difficult one because

00:38:40.780 --> 00:38:44.739
I think he probably like he's at a point, at

00:38:44.739 --> 00:38:47.780
least the last time you see him. he's like kind

00:38:47.780 --> 00:38:49.800
of had mini therapy sessions where he's speaking

00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:53.579
to that uh navigator girl in the dark angel ship

00:38:53.579 --> 00:38:56.679
while being held prisoner by the dark angels

00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:01.039
like yeah good place yeah he's open enough to

00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.659
it as in like he could have it and it would be

00:39:03.659 --> 00:39:06.280
successful in some sense because the whole point

00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.480
like the navigator girl and his in that ship

00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.400
is like being beaten up and he breaks out of

00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:16.480
his own prison to go kill the um the guy who

00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.980
did that to her and he just says like i found

00:39:18.980 --> 00:39:21.360
my new method i'm no longer you know a knight

00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.280
a son of curse i am justice i am that basically

00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:26.599
becomes batman the thing is it's just you made

00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.000
me think of like a like a weird like parody of

00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.780
like in a world where war is everywhere can one

00:39:32.780 --> 00:39:36.679
super soldier find love in the depths of a dark

00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:45.320
angel's Prince of crows. Oh, she's dead. Oh,

00:39:45.380 --> 00:39:49.239
nevermind. Um, and that probably didn't help

00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.639
him. I feel like, yeah, not as bad as Talos,

00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:53.679
but he could be top of the day though. Cause

00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:56.519
he would be like, it would be very like he's

00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:58.980
he's Talos is like closed off to it. Whereas

00:39:58.980 --> 00:40:03.940
like Savitar is like, okay, human. Okay. Okay.

00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:10.139
Okay. Oh, Sangi. He needs some. Good man, but

00:40:10.139 --> 00:40:14.400
he needs some therapy. I see myself die every

00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.219
day in my dreams. That's a good point. He's often

00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:21.519
quite sad as well and angry. That's pretty fair.

00:40:21.980 --> 00:40:23.800
And he's always struggling with his inner...

00:40:24.429 --> 00:40:27.150
he wants to rip people to shreds all the time

00:40:27.150 --> 00:40:29.210
but on the outside he's like oh you're so lovely

00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:32.369
hi oh you're great oh you should you should yeah

00:40:32.369 --> 00:40:34.510
you should go for that you know promotion oh

00:40:34.510 --> 00:40:39.349
good for you and inside he says kill i want to

00:40:39.349 --> 00:40:41.909
rip a head off oh you're so lovely oh is that

00:40:41.909 --> 00:40:44.869
your children oh that's nice heart like that

00:40:44.869 --> 00:40:47.090
that's his demeanor outside i guess i guess yeah

00:40:47.090 --> 00:40:49.269
in my in my original opinion i wasn't really

00:40:49.269 --> 00:40:51.969
considering the foresees his own death at all

00:40:51.969 --> 00:40:55.380
times thing was i huh he's also quite sad a lot

00:40:55.380 --> 00:40:58.500
of time he's just like he thinks like oh no i

00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:01.340
made all my sons like the fault lies with me

00:41:01.340 --> 00:41:03.800
for like the red thirst and stuff and he's like

00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:06.420
i had to kill a few of my sons who turned to

00:41:06.420 --> 00:41:08.760
the black raid so he feels guilty he feels guilty

00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:11.800
and sad a lot of time and even in there is it

00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:13.940
unremembered empire i think or one of the other

00:41:13.940 --> 00:41:17.139
ones he gilliman even says to him like are you

00:41:17.139 --> 00:41:19.679
okay buddy he's just like no i don't want to

00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:23.889
talk about it yet So he definitely is in F tier.

00:41:24.010 --> 00:41:27.829
He needs it. Poor guy. Speaking of suppression,

00:41:28.250 --> 00:41:32.590
Dante! Let's put him up here! Yeah, I feel like

00:41:32.590 --> 00:41:37.130
that's a pretty easy pick. He's been around longer

00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:39.150
than Sanguinius and he's just like, I want to

00:41:39.150 --> 00:41:43.090
die! I'm going to put him above Emperor. That's

00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:45.409
a tough one though because what else is there

00:41:45.409 --> 00:41:50.389
to say to him that will make it better? like

00:41:50.389 --> 00:41:52.809
in some way what is it like hey actually yeah

00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:55.070
he's got his new responsibility i don't know

00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:57.630
the same therapy you'd give anyone who's suicidal

00:41:57.630 --> 00:42:03.710
but he's old like he's you know okay he's like

00:42:03.710 --> 00:42:05.489
he's like oh it's all gonna get you know you

00:42:05.489 --> 00:42:07.050
can find a way to make it better he's like what

00:42:07.050 --> 00:42:10.250
do you mean like for the next two weeks converted

00:42:10.250 --> 00:42:13.050
here first hell doesn't think old people should

00:42:13.050 --> 00:42:17.699
live Dante's like, I was promised social security.

00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.980
He's like, no, my son, you've got to keep working.

00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.280
But I'm a thousand years old. You've got to keep

00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:30.099
going. Please, Dad, no. Poor Dante. I mean, yeah,

00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.480
it would do wonders for him. But it's also, man's

00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.219
in a very high -stress job. and that's not going

00:42:40.219 --> 00:42:42.820
away anytime soon so that's the thing of like

00:42:42.820 --> 00:42:45.380
he probably maybe needs it even more to be fair

00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:47.460
more than anyone else because it could actually

00:42:47.460 --> 00:42:56.360
be more valuable ferrous menace oh god um yeah

00:42:56.360 --> 00:43:00.119
i guess at that brief point before the end what

00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.739
he was like can i just say unrelated i was looking

00:43:02.739 --> 00:43:04.920
at that picture and took me way too long to see

00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.099
it was ferris manis because i kept thinking that

00:43:07.099 --> 00:43:10.039
was star killer holding a yellow lightsaber nice

00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.199
he does have that look about him like that haircut

00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.960
because it's a small like because it's a smaller

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.260
image like i just looking at it from like is

00:43:18.260 --> 00:43:20.559
that Did Annie put Starkiller on here? Did we

00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.840
get lost? Paris Manus being told by the Emperor,

00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:24.860
your iron hands don't matter. They matter to

00:43:24.860 --> 00:43:28.579
me! She was real to me! You said you'd keep us

00:43:28.579 --> 00:43:32.559
around after the Great Crusade. I lied. I lied.

00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.400
There was obviously a problem with the cloning.

00:43:35.500 --> 00:43:40.619
Anyway, he actually reflects a bit on his iron

00:43:40.619 --> 00:43:43.719
-handedness. A bit ham -fisted, if you will,

00:43:43.820 --> 00:43:45.500
the way he does it. He's just like, oh, I'll

00:43:45.500 --> 00:43:47.949
take him off one day. And I'll tell my boys,

00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:52.050
you know, maybe unplug, you know, Starlink from

00:43:52.050 --> 00:43:55.989
your brain. You don't need it. And then he dies

00:43:55.989 --> 00:43:58.329
before he gets to tell them to do that. So in

00:43:58.329 --> 00:44:02.389
that Isfahan massacre book that Colin definitely

00:44:02.389 --> 00:44:05.510
was believing did not need to exist, but actually

00:44:05.510 --> 00:44:06.989
was kind of good. I'm not going to lie. It's

00:44:06.989 --> 00:44:10.349
actually quite good. He has a point where he

00:44:10.349 --> 00:44:14.909
like, yeah, like. he seems a bit weird to uh

00:44:14.909 --> 00:44:19.030
vulcan and korax and then korax actually korax

00:44:19.030 --> 00:44:21.730
surprisingly the one who yells him like hey you

00:44:21.730 --> 00:44:24.730
know what's wrong he's like he finally says like

00:44:24.730 --> 00:44:27.010
did they even bother trying to turn you to traitor

00:44:27.010 --> 00:44:30.929
and the other two are like no it's like exactly

00:44:30.929 --> 00:44:33.969
why did they think i would you know like what's

00:44:33.969 --> 00:44:36.150
wrong with me but they were like they saw within

00:44:36.150 --> 00:44:39.369
me the possibility of being a traitor so he uh

00:44:39.369 --> 00:44:41.650
he maybe has some things to work out you know

00:44:42.030 --> 00:44:45.230
from how he thinks other people see him so yeah

00:44:45.230 --> 00:44:47.630
probably top of b actually no maybe not more

00:44:47.630 --> 00:44:55.110
than lucius i'm gonna put anger on here while

00:44:55.110 --> 00:44:57.010
i quickly check where russell's waddled off to

00:44:57.010 --> 00:45:00.650
i'll be back i mean i think the thing with anger

00:45:00.650 --> 00:45:03.369
on would be like the therapy he needs is take

00:45:03.369 --> 00:45:05.329
the nails out of his head but you can't really

00:45:05.329 --> 00:45:11.510
do that you know yeah his it feels really I mean,

00:45:11.510 --> 00:45:15.389
it'd be good for him, but it's also... No one

00:45:15.389 --> 00:45:17.989
even bothered trying that with him. The Emperor

00:45:17.989 --> 00:45:20.309
didn't be like, let me just hang around you for

00:45:20.309 --> 00:45:24.309
a bit, you know? But it was almost kind of doomed,

00:45:24.409 --> 00:45:26.690
isn't it? That's like properly doomed. He doesn't

00:45:26.690 --> 00:45:30.110
have any respite or like, yeah, hey, I'm going

00:45:30.110 --> 00:45:35.630
to get better. Damn. What are we thinking? I

00:45:35.630 --> 00:45:42.219
mean, A. I mean, I'd say C. he's his whole thing

00:45:42.219 --> 00:45:45.139
is he's always struggling with his mental health

00:45:45.139 --> 00:45:48.239
like all the time and it doesn't help that it's

00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:52.079
like oh you feel sad also you have a migraine

00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:59.079
all the time that's his thing it's a sad poor

00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:03.869
guy maybe maybe a little a little c just in c

00:46:03.869 --> 00:46:06.110
just like just a little bit yeah it's like a

00:46:06.110 --> 00:46:09.429
coat rather than he needs is take the the nails

00:46:09.429 --> 00:46:13.190
out of his brain but you can't do that like talking

00:46:13.190 --> 00:46:14.769
to him isn't going to do anything as long as

00:46:14.769 --> 00:46:22.809
those are there uh corn the bloody i mean you

00:46:22.809 --> 00:46:30.880
know What's the point with this guy? Does he

00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.800
need therapy? At this point, he's fully committed

00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:38.019
to Khorne. He doesn't need or want therapy. Before

00:46:38.019 --> 00:46:40.559
that, he needed to stop making bad decisions

00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.980
about believing his dad could be saved. Well,

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.380
as happened with Erebus, he was the therapy.

00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.179
Quote, get up. Or that. He did get some therapy

00:46:51.179 --> 00:46:53.840
in that instance. Yeah, he beat it into Erebus.

00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:02.340
gilly mum i mean that guy is that is that is

00:47:02.340 --> 00:47:06.800
depressing you know poor guy woke up you know

00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.800
woke up and then saw the grim dark future and

00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:14.840
was like okay where's the rope like immediately

00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.500
i think he says like he says he even says just

00:47:18.500 --> 00:47:21.260
for a split second you know better that horus

00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:24.969
would win than um this happened but he doesn't

00:47:24.969 --> 00:47:26.610
really believe that but like i think he says

00:47:26.610 --> 00:47:28.630
like you know he speaks the lie about it but

00:47:28.630 --> 00:47:34.989
he literally is properly depressed uh yeah ultra

00:47:34.989 --> 00:47:38.429
mars looking like a fucking shit stain compared

00:47:38.429 --> 00:47:41.769
to what it used to be the emperor isn't really

00:47:41.769 --> 00:47:45.610
his dad you know imagine if you hadn't seen your

00:47:45.610 --> 00:47:48.030
dad in like a good while you woke up from a coma

00:47:48.030 --> 00:47:50.170
got out of hospital and when you went back to

00:47:50.170 --> 00:47:52.610
him he's just like soldier slave child weapon

00:47:52.610 --> 00:47:57.429
uh gilliman savior it's like what dad huh what

00:47:57.429 --> 00:47:59.869
do you mean oh and then he's gonna be and then

00:47:59.869 --> 00:48:02.409
everyone is looking at him to fix it all and

00:48:02.409 --> 00:48:04.030
then he has to be a worker he has to be a constant

00:48:04.030 --> 00:48:06.860
workaholic and he can't sleep Yeah, that's pretty

00:48:06.860 --> 00:48:11.360
high up there. A nest here. And the firm is the

00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.780
survival of the entire human race. Good luck.

00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.000
Oh, no. Where's the other partners? They're all

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:24.739
gone. Oh, no. They're all gone. Oh, no. Yeah,

00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.159
poor guy. Before we get any further, was there

00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.940
any more donations? Yeah. Would you like to start

00:48:29.940 --> 00:48:33.300
us off? There was a few. Yo, it's Mr. Townsend.

00:48:33.869 --> 00:48:36.289
You can see him, man. Guess who's back? Your

00:48:36.289 --> 00:48:39.190
Aussie lawman is back after getting 16 stitches

00:48:39.190 --> 00:48:42.250
for a gash in my... How did you do it? Does this

00:48:42.250 --> 00:48:46.150
happen to be snake -related? I'm sorry if that's...

00:48:46.150 --> 00:48:49.250
Oh, what's up? I think he mentioned in an earlier

00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:51.889
comment that there was a taut wire fence and

00:48:51.889 --> 00:48:55.469
it snagged and cut him or something. Sorry to

00:48:55.469 --> 00:48:57.369
hear that. I'm glad you've gotten the stitches.

00:48:57.469 --> 00:49:01.519
I hope everything heals nicely. It wasn't a snake,

00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:03.340
so there's no venom at least. So that's good.

00:49:03.460 --> 00:49:07.739
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, shellac sees wet as gripper for

00:49:07.739 --> 00:49:11.059
two every day. Colin gets closer to a Chicago

00:49:11.059 --> 00:49:17.139
marathon. No, I don't think I do. I go to Chicago

00:49:17.139 --> 00:49:19.139
to see some friends. You know, it's fun to visit

00:49:19.139 --> 00:49:22.179
Chicago. I don't, I don't know. People running

00:49:22.179 --> 00:49:24.760
a marathon with a beer, but I'm not going to.

00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:27.400
Yeah, I'll do that. It's a Chicago marathon.

00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:34.099
People running away from it. I don't know. Trash

00:49:34.099 --> 00:49:37.519
Fox Nurgles Worm Mind Virus? Whatever the hell

00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:39.039
that's a name. It's quite the sentence. For 10

00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.079
bucks. Been loving yours collabs lately. Never

00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.480
know where I'll find you next. Also, damn you

00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.920
Colin, I listened to your Battletech content

00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.179
and now I have yet another sci -fi lore to fit

00:49:50.179 --> 00:49:53.820
in my neuro -spicy brain hell. Glory to the Lyran

00:49:53.820 --> 00:49:56.940
Commonwealth. Which one are they? The blue ones

00:49:56.940 --> 00:50:02.070
with the big mechs. With the fist? Yes. Or Comstar.

00:50:02.230 --> 00:50:04.929
Comstar first, but most people don't want to.

00:50:05.030 --> 00:50:08.269
Which one's House Davian? Those are the Federated

00:50:08.269 --> 00:50:11.650
Sons, the fed rats. Oh, they're rats. Because

00:50:11.650 --> 00:50:13.570
when you start the game, it's like you're in

00:50:13.570 --> 00:50:15.309
their territory, so I guess they're my friends.

00:50:15.329 --> 00:50:16.949
I mean, they're usually the generic protagonist

00:50:16.949 --> 00:50:20.610
faction of the setting, but they're fucking snobby

00:50:20.610 --> 00:50:27.010
fed rats. Fair enough. Beastman from Sweden.

00:50:27.909 --> 00:50:30.829
Would you like to read this one, Colin? Sure.

00:50:31.130 --> 00:50:34.849
Thank you for the 65 SEK. Bjorn going God Emperor.

00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:37.449
That was how all of this started. Not incorrect.

00:50:39.409 --> 00:50:41.530
Also, Sigismund went headfirst into religious

00:50:41.530 --> 00:50:45.349
psychosis and did not look back. None of the

00:50:45.349 --> 00:50:47.150
Black Templars really look back. That's kind

00:50:47.150 --> 00:50:51.530
of not what they do. Oh, here we go. Mr. Townsend,

00:50:51.570 --> 00:50:54.409
20 Australian. Thank you, man. Aussie law time.

00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:57.780
with a brand new co -worker. He's a cocky little

00:50:57.780 --> 00:51:00.719
prick who no one likes, and he had a little bit

00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:03.300
of an ego until he worked with me. I watched

00:51:03.300 --> 00:51:06.539
him get chased by a cow. Did I help him? No.

00:51:06.739 --> 00:51:10.159
But did I laugh a lot? Hell yeah, man. It's like

00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.440
the tourists that go to Yellowstone and always

00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.840
try and get close to the bison and take a picture,

00:51:16.980 --> 00:51:20.579
not realizing that a bison can go from zero to

00:51:20.579 --> 00:51:23.320
60 quite quickly, and that is a very big animal.

00:51:24.829 --> 00:51:26.969
uh to be fair usually they just like jump at

00:51:26.969 --> 00:51:30.829
you first you know like back off uh it's always

00:51:30.829 --> 00:51:32.969
funny to see that usually because it's funny

00:51:32.969 --> 00:51:35.110
because it usually doesn't result in a goring

00:51:35.110 --> 00:51:37.369
because everyone gets the away from the giant

00:51:37.369 --> 00:51:40.949
animal well hippopotamus that's a terror like

00:51:40.949 --> 00:51:43.949
why don't we have death space hippos would be

00:51:43.949 --> 00:51:47.389
cool like as a chapter the hip the deaf hippos

00:51:47.389 --> 00:51:50.989
i want to see that uh like moding kleptomaniac

00:51:50.989 --> 00:51:55.820
marines so that's my idea Watcher and the Derp

00:51:55.820 --> 00:51:58.559
for two. We all know the Lamenters need it the

00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:03.539
most. They just need to grow up. They just stop

00:52:03.539 --> 00:52:06.300
being Blood Angel successors. And they'll be

00:52:06.300 --> 00:52:09.380
okay. Just call yourselves Iron Hand successors

00:52:09.380 --> 00:52:11.300
and you've both got a dead prime. And they're

00:52:11.300 --> 00:52:13.059
not even sad. That's just part of the course.

00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.159
Then every limb you lose is a bonus because it's

00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:18.519
something to look forward to if you're an Iron

00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:22.380
Hand successor. So there you go. Don't keep my

00:52:22.380 --> 00:52:25.030
newest save of five bucks. Hellpit Abomination

00:52:25.030 --> 00:52:28.510
will be perfect for my Gravemind kit bash. Check

00:52:28.510 --> 00:52:30.130
out our Discord, guys, because this guy's got

00:52:30.130 --> 00:52:34.150
some crazy shit for what he's working on. Gravemind.

00:52:35.289 --> 00:52:41.469
Among them are all your sins. Would you like

00:52:41.469 --> 00:52:48.389
to read this one, Colin? Morning Star V2U. Thank

00:52:48.389 --> 00:52:50.860
you for the fiver. Emperor can't use his near

00:52:50.860 --> 00:52:53.400
godlike biomancy to fix Angron's brain after

00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.119
removing the nails. Skill issue. It was, I mean,

00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:59.739
technically, yeah, it was a skill issue. He couldn't

00:52:59.739 --> 00:53:03.000
do it. Also, he fucked up on Nusaria too. Yeah.

00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:08.860
Yeah. Yeah. There was, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We would

00:53:08.860 --> 00:53:10.940
not be good at an intervention for Angron's like,

00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.119
oh, what do your friends think? I could have

00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.699
done better. okay we're thinking more positive

00:53:15.699 --> 00:53:18.019
things affirmations in the light how did that

00:53:18.019 --> 00:53:21.260
make you feel like you had to burn a civilization

00:53:21.260 --> 00:53:28.360
to its need uh bay beige luminati that's a hell

00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:33.019
of a name for bagel illuminati sorry uh gilliman

00:53:33.019 --> 00:53:35.360
would give his own therapist depression yeah

00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.719
i think it'd be a malchador situation again yeah

00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:43.030
um j townsend again To be fair, it's winter in

00:53:43.030 --> 00:53:45.630
Australia, so no snakes for a while. Hey, that's

00:53:45.630 --> 00:53:51.489
a positive. He's been from Sweden. 27 SEK. Did

00:53:51.489 --> 00:53:54.730
Felix ever get therapy? No. No, he could have

00:53:54.730 --> 00:53:58.369
used that. He just got laid. He did get laid

00:53:58.369 --> 00:54:00.449
quite a bit. Would you want to read this one,

00:54:00.489 --> 00:54:04.500
Hal? And one by Monty Scar for 20 Australian.

00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:06.840
God, the Australians are up. Good to finally

00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:08.860
catch you guys live. Cheers from Australia on

00:54:08.860 --> 00:54:11.800
the way to work now. Clearly the ones who need

00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.719
therapy the most are techless after what Colin

00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.300
did. Probably the rest of you after hearing about

00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:20.619
it. Yeah, thanks for reminding us. He was into

00:54:20.619 --> 00:54:24.440
it. That's right. He'll be happy in nine months'

00:54:24.539 --> 00:54:31.539
time. Exactly. Oh, dear. It's the space marine.

00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.780
I lost all his limbs. He did lose all of his

00:54:37.780 --> 00:54:41.519
limbs. To, like, Satan. The equivalent of Satan.

00:54:41.659 --> 00:54:44.000
Oh, it's Abaddon. Oh, the arch traitor. He's

00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.980
been around 10 ,000 years. He needs therapy for

00:54:46.980 --> 00:54:50.019
when he gets his Phobos armor. Who knows? And

00:54:50.019 --> 00:54:53.039
his Phobos variant, his scout variant. Another

00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:56.900
Kalgar model, please. Also in his, like, origin

00:54:56.900 --> 00:55:00.110
comic, it's like he watched... the guy who he

00:55:00.110 --> 00:55:04.210
took his name from die to a cornet cultist and

00:55:04.210 --> 00:55:07.469
then like he honors him by using his name so

00:55:07.469 --> 00:55:09.110
maybe he thinks of him occasionally he's like

00:55:09.110 --> 00:55:12.050
oh good old manias and then occasionally he also

00:55:12.050 --> 00:55:13.809
wakes up screaming because he now knows that

00:55:13.809 --> 00:55:16.730
titus is the main character of his faction and

00:55:16.730 --> 00:55:19.530
he's further sidelined he's like no not again

00:55:19.530 --> 00:55:22.769
he doesn't need it because he had that cool intro

00:55:22.769 --> 00:55:29.440
so he says um i think he's doing okay He'd be

00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:33.460
cool, but I think he's doing okay. Okay. Kato

00:55:33.460 --> 00:55:37.260
Sicarius. Oh, he's not having a good time at

00:55:37.260 --> 00:55:40.159
the moment. No, after he got lost in the warp

00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.260
for, well, I mean, lost in the warp, so anywhere

00:55:42.260 --> 00:55:45.920
from two minutes to millennia. And all his friends

00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.320
died, yeah. Yeah. And he keeps seeing their faces.

00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.599
He's on a guard. He's Victrix man. He's kind

00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.980
of getting the therapy just by working with Gilliman.

00:55:56.139 --> 00:55:59.670
Hmm. And it's like bonding time with dad. That's

00:55:59.670 --> 00:56:01.989
not too bad. That's what I mean. If Malkador's

00:56:01.989 --> 00:56:04.929
in C, then surely this guy's below that. Yeah,

00:56:04.929 --> 00:56:09.130
you know, that's a fair point. Kate's like, oh,

00:56:09.150 --> 00:56:11.230
a few of my friends died. Malkador is, I have

00:56:11.230 --> 00:56:17.449
burned civilizations. And also, no ring. Yeah,

00:56:17.590 --> 00:56:21.230
the lion, put him here. Put him there, I think.

00:56:21.590 --> 00:56:27.380
Oh, here we go. Uriel Ventress. Are they making

00:56:27.380 --> 00:56:34.300
his model? He got put in a demoncula bar. Not

00:56:34.300 --> 00:56:41.380
fun. He has seen some. He had to kill a clone

00:56:41.380 --> 00:56:47.199
of his own face. With his own face. Can you no

00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.800
longer get Uriel Ventress? They don't sell him.

00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:54.210
Not the Primaris one. I know that you can...

00:56:54.210 --> 00:56:58.230
That's crazy. Oh, wow. Titus really did just

00:56:58.230 --> 00:57:02.590
erase him. Titus took Uriel behind the shed with

00:57:02.590 --> 00:57:05.369
a... It's your time, sir. I think they were a

00:57:05.369 --> 00:57:07.090
little bit too similar, weren't they? They were

00:57:07.090 --> 00:57:10.409
like, hmm, a bit too similar. We have Titus at

00:57:10.409 --> 00:57:12.969
home. No, please. I have green pauldrons. I have

00:57:12.969 --> 00:57:17.849
green. Uriel's... I mean, he's seen some stuff,

00:57:17.989 --> 00:57:21.070
but again, I think he's just maybe above Kato.

00:57:22.219 --> 00:57:24.019
He's seen a few things that are just slightly

00:57:24.019 --> 00:57:26.719
worse than Kato, but he's not like, I have seen

00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:29.920
things that shape me to my core. He's like, I

00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:35.340
just got through it. Really? Honsu made a clone

00:57:35.340 --> 00:57:37.139
of him, which he then was hounded by and had

00:57:37.139 --> 00:57:40.940
to kill. He also was put into a demunculava,

00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:44.599
which wasn't fun and was basically in a sweaty

00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.320
chaos orifice for days, being cloned from it.

00:57:48.940 --> 00:57:50.500
and then there was the whole like oh you almost

00:57:50.500 --> 00:57:53.260
let an entire planet die to being eaten by tyranids

00:57:53.260 --> 00:57:55.199
and then you got banished from the ultra marines

00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:57.460
i feel like he's he's been through a fair bit

00:57:57.460 --> 00:58:00.360
um yeah but like he's still got his mates and

00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.400
like he's always chapped so he still has other

00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:07.679
things other than being a space marine he's doing

00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.000
all right man for like a night bringer and was

00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.599
just like ah no problem i can deal with it um

00:58:16.269 --> 00:58:18.090
Yeah, okay. We'll put it a little bit. I'll put

00:58:18.090 --> 00:58:23.849
Makato. Okay. Because he's seen as much as another

00:58:23.849 --> 00:58:29.369
Space Marine has seen. Hmm. Okay. Morty Raribron.

00:58:30.329 --> 00:58:33.469
Oh, my God. This guy has issues, man. He has

00:58:33.469 --> 00:58:37.269
so many issues. That's the thing. I would honestly

00:58:37.269 --> 00:58:39.590
put him in S tier because with therapy, he would

00:58:39.590 --> 00:58:43.239
have not been a traitor. Hmm. that's his whole

00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.679
shtick is like he's got a complex he always has

00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.860
some kind of complex and he's also like a massive

00:58:49.860 --> 00:58:52.599
hypocrite is this so cruel when he was growing

00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.280
up and the necromancer's like i'm gonna put you

00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.880
in the tower where it's high enough for you to

00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:00.960
breathe but but it's low enough to be like the

00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.300
very limit of the toxicity of the atmosphere

00:59:03.300 --> 00:59:05.860
so you're gonna have like really bad asthma and

00:59:05.860 --> 00:59:10.920
you're always gonna be like you will never have

00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.940
like a good night's sleep no like yeah fun thanks

00:59:13.940 --> 00:59:18.000
dad thank you very cool um and obviously like

00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:21.159
now he's a big smelly moth that's not fun yeah

00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:24.179
he's got a childhood to work through uh with

00:59:24.179 --> 00:59:26.940
someone and not you know the emperor should have

00:59:26.940 --> 00:59:31.079
given him a therapist not a uh you know a weapon

00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:36.059
and a legion he needed help here's a question

00:59:36.059 --> 00:59:38.030
how Do you reckon it would have been better to

00:59:38.030 --> 00:59:40.489
give him a therapist or let him kill his necromancer

00:59:40.489 --> 00:59:41.989
father, which would have been more effective?

00:59:43.829 --> 00:59:46.349
Better to fucking kill Typhus, to be honest,

00:59:46.449 --> 00:59:51.449
than me. No, he should have... He needed to kill

00:59:51.449 --> 00:59:53.869
his father. But then, like, that's the only way

00:59:53.869 --> 00:59:56.849
he would have served the Imperium, as if he owed

00:59:56.849 --> 00:59:59.250
something to the Emperor, you know? The Emperor

00:59:59.250 --> 01:00:02.809
tricked him. Well, speaking of Typhus, is Typhus

01:00:02.809 --> 01:00:08.880
the Traveller? Nah. you stink nah this guy doesn't

01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:10.699
need therapy yeah he's just he's just in the

01:00:10.699 --> 01:00:13.840
bad egg category like therapy is like the thing

01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.480
of he like you could bring someone out of like

01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:21.500
a funk or something this is that guy is the bad

01:00:21.500 --> 01:00:26.539
smelling funk like yeah he is the funk yeah Literally,

01:00:26.619 --> 01:00:28.739
any time Typhus enters the bat, it's like, we

01:00:28.739 --> 01:00:30.840
got the funk! And all the Death Guard are just

01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.559
strutting around with them in synchronicity.

01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:36.340
Yeah, fun fact about all members of the Death

01:00:36.340 --> 01:00:38.579
Guard, they're the best dancers of all of these

01:00:38.579 --> 01:00:41.280
space marines. No, no, that's the Ultramarines.

01:00:41.300 --> 01:00:43.139
There's a rogue trader supplement to prove it.

01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.139
I'm joking. They're probably the worst of all

01:00:46.139 --> 01:00:49.039
of them. They just come as like, time to do the

01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:53.940
Nurgle shuffle. It's taken ages. Then you shit

01:00:53.940 --> 01:00:58.630
your pants. dancing so good you will shit your

01:00:58.630 --> 01:01:02.429
pants how many characters are we halfway we're

01:01:02.429 --> 01:01:05.289
getting there don't worry we might make a move

01:01:05.289 --> 01:01:12.829
on some of them he's alright he's okay he did

01:01:12.829 --> 01:01:17.349
his character arc bad things kept happening to

01:01:17.349 --> 01:01:19.570
him but he handled them as well as he could he

01:01:19.570 --> 01:01:24.860
needs a vacation not therapy i feel like also

01:01:24.860 --> 01:01:27.599
he had his faith he he had like a last hurrah

01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.019
with like i'm gonna protect keela and i'm gonna

01:01:30.019 --> 01:01:32.980
be like true to true to my faith and you know

01:01:32.980 --> 01:01:35.000
the crisis of faith but then carol sinderman

01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:36.739
and other people were there for him so like yeah

01:01:36.739 --> 01:01:40.079
he reconciled with sigismund and dawn and everyone

01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:44.619
and yeah um or the next oh no that's me merrick

01:01:44.619 --> 01:01:48.119
voyne died by well i don't think magnus needed

01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:53.900
therapy he needed an ego check I think he needed,

01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.599
you know that thing in No Country for Old Men

01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.019
that they use on cows? I think he needed that.

01:02:00.420 --> 01:02:02.320
Oh, the little, like, what's that? Don't worry.

01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:05.559
Get out of here. Get out of here. You're telling

01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:08.519
me Magnus needs to flip a coin? So, yeah, he

01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:14.579
needs to call it. He needed to be shoved in a

01:02:14.579 --> 01:02:16.920
locker. Like, that fucking nerd needed to be

01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:18.860
bullied more is what he needed. He needed therapy.

01:02:19.710 --> 01:02:22.710
The issue with Magnus is he kind of thinks he's

01:02:22.710 --> 01:02:26.630
too good for it. And I think there's no third

01:02:26.630 --> 01:02:28.789
person that would get through to him. Like a

01:02:28.789 --> 01:02:32.030
nerd with powers. He needs it, though. He desperately

01:02:32.030 --> 01:02:34.110
needed it because he has a superiority complex

01:02:34.110 --> 01:02:38.170
that he pretends he doesn't have. That's the

01:02:38.170 --> 01:02:41.610
whole point when him and Demon Magnus is fighting

01:02:41.610 --> 01:02:44.889
Vulcan at the Sea of Terror. He literally screams

01:02:44.889 --> 01:02:47.949
at Vulcan, Don't you see? The whole Horus heresy

01:02:47.949 --> 01:02:51.619
is about me, bro. Horace and the Emperor were

01:02:51.619 --> 01:02:54.340
like maneuvering to get me. I think his exact

01:02:54.340 --> 01:02:56.719
words were, I'm the most valuable piece on the

01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:01.320
board. So he clearly was like, meanwhile, it's

01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:03.920
the Magnus heresy. Thank you very much. Bro gets

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:07.840
bodied by two Space Wolf chapter masters in his

01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:11.420
career. That's a big, that's a bad ratio of fight

01:03:11.420 --> 01:03:14.019
losses, you know? And people don't even remember

01:03:14.019 --> 01:03:17.610
the second one. It's also... mad i didn't like

01:03:17.610 --> 01:03:20.949
that the last time we kind of see him is in there's

01:03:20.949 --> 01:03:23.170
like a scene of him like one of the the third

01:03:23.170 --> 01:03:25.469
mephisto books and he's just like ranting and

01:03:25.469 --> 01:03:29.570
raving mad he's like speaking to like kind of

01:03:29.570 --> 01:03:32.769
like demon crowds and they're just like yeah

01:03:32.769 --> 01:03:36.449
yeah yeah like it's so weird he's got like the

01:03:36.449 --> 01:03:39.050
equivalent of like halo rampancy for ai it's

01:03:39.050 --> 01:03:41.630
just like information overload goes a bit too

01:03:41.630 --> 01:03:45.219
far and you can't contain it all and just going

01:03:45.219 --> 01:03:47.420
a bit mad and having like, I know it's a good

01:03:47.420 --> 01:03:49.199
idea. I'm going to destroy all of humanity with

01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:52.360
robots. Yeah, nice idea. Rampancy is no joke.

01:03:54.099 --> 01:04:00.019
Yeah. Oh, this, I mean, he, I mean, he kind of

01:04:00.019 --> 01:04:02.760
really needed it because if he could just let,

01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.760
like his whole shtick is like, he thinks if I

01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.869
just work hard enough. I can beat the god of

01:04:09.869 --> 01:04:12.409
trickery in his grand scheme and save all my

01:04:12.409 --> 01:04:16.030
friends. He needs therapy to let people go. He

01:04:16.030 --> 01:04:19.510
can't do it. So maybe he does need it. He's maybe

01:04:19.510 --> 01:04:24.269
in A somewhere. What stage of grief is he in,

01:04:24.329 --> 01:04:27.190
Hal? It's definitely not acceptance. I don't

01:04:27.190 --> 01:04:30.030
know. Even in his own novels, he keeps having...

01:04:30.030 --> 01:04:32.889
He revisits a false memory of his twin brother

01:04:32.889 --> 01:04:37.369
who died long ago. He's still... he's like he's

01:04:37.369 --> 01:04:40.809
fucked up you know poor Ironman and he is quite

01:04:40.809 --> 01:04:44.070
you know he he comes across as quite like a um

01:04:44.070 --> 01:04:46.809
like he's not like an evil character all the

01:04:46.809 --> 01:04:49.630
time but he's just like man it's like it's like

01:04:49.630 --> 01:04:52.650
the Eldrad thing of like I will burn a billion

01:04:52.650 --> 01:04:56.690
humans to save 10 ,000 Eldar like Ironman's like

01:04:56.690 --> 01:04:59.829
I will destroy a thousand children die before

01:04:59.829 --> 01:05:03.469
I let this company die Ironman would squish a

01:05:03.469 --> 01:05:06.269
thousand orphans if one rubric marine came back

01:05:06.269 --> 01:05:13.130
to life. Needs help. Well, this one here, Colin,

01:05:13.210 --> 01:05:16.369
as our resident Horus heresy expert, because

01:05:16.369 --> 01:05:20.010
you've read Horus Rising. I did. What about Horus?

01:05:20.969 --> 01:05:23.769
I think he could have used some therapy, but

01:05:23.769 --> 01:05:26.349
he needs like a cross. I'm going to say B tier.

01:05:26.909 --> 01:05:29.449
He needed both therapy and someone to tell him

01:05:29.449 --> 01:05:32.369
that you are not the end -all, be -all. You are

01:05:32.369 --> 01:05:36.110
not king shit. You're not him. He's kind to him,

01:05:36.210 --> 01:05:38.210
but he needed to be told, like, you're not, like,

01:05:38.309 --> 01:05:41.630
you know, capital H him. Because he did, like,

01:05:41.630 --> 01:05:45.829
a bit of a what's it called? Whiplash, where

01:05:45.829 --> 01:05:47.570
it was, like, before he corrupted, he's like,

01:05:47.670 --> 01:05:50.110
I'm not good enough. And then it was, actually,

01:05:50.230 --> 01:05:52.289
I am good enough. I'm the best one on the board.

01:05:52.429 --> 01:05:55.340
And it's like, yeah. He did a 180 on his motivations.

01:05:55.900 --> 01:05:59.679
He needed the Wreck -It -Ralph villain therapy

01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:04.280
circle. Just because you're a war master doesn't

01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:08.179
mean you're a master of war. Master your emotions.

01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:13.380
He needed help at certain points, but it's that

01:06:13.380 --> 01:06:17.739
thing of he was almost too far gone. He was kind

01:06:17.739 --> 01:06:20.679
of like, that's the whole point is like, the

01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:23.340
reason Horace is like chosen kind of by chaos,

01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:26.360
like he's kind of deep down an asshole. That's

01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:29.780
what I said. He needed like a 50 -50, like a

01:06:29.780 --> 01:06:33.199
shoulder to, you know, a cry on, but also someone

01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:36.960
to just beat the shit out of him and ego check

01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:39.199
him a bit. He needed to be brought back down

01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:42.610
to reality. he needs that alfarius ability where

01:06:42.610 --> 01:06:44.550
like he can walk through a crowd and just be

01:06:44.550 --> 01:06:46.590
perceived as like a regular human because everywhere

01:06:46.590 --> 01:06:49.250
he goes everyone is like trying to you know proverbially

01:06:49.250 --> 01:06:52.309
proverbially suck his dick you know like yeah

01:06:52.309 --> 01:06:57.070
oh my god it's horrors you know oh my knees for

01:06:57.070 --> 01:06:59.809
us you know it's like it's just yeah like chill

01:06:59.809 --> 01:07:05.210
man don't do that don't do that gross gross get

01:07:05.210 --> 01:07:08.820
that coin out your pocket um so they'll worry

01:07:08.820 --> 01:07:14.800
a lot garvey he's so garvey oh he does have an

01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.280
actual mental breakdown when he becomes cerberus

01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:18.800
so i think he needs a bit of therapy this is

01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:21.139
zest here as well as paul i put him right next

01:07:21.139 --> 01:07:23.199
to gilliman because like gilliman's like i'm

01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.280
on the verge of a mental breakdown and garvey

01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.719
or logan is like i had a mental breakdown first

01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:33.929
time it hasn't ended my legion betrayed me uh

01:07:33.929 --> 01:07:36.389
i watched all of my friends die on his farm three

01:07:36.389 --> 01:07:39.030
uh my best friend got decapitated in front of

01:07:39.030 --> 01:07:41.050
me i've been talking to his body for a few months

01:07:41.050 --> 01:07:45.210
my mind broke i went back to terror and then

01:07:45.210 --> 01:07:47.510
i got recruited into this weird clandestine order

01:07:47.510 --> 01:07:49.949
then they sent me to caliban and then i ended

01:07:49.949 --> 01:07:52.369
up killing a space marine we don't know if he's

01:07:52.369 --> 01:07:55.469
loyal or traitor and i also went to work in a

01:07:55.469 --> 01:07:58.570
garden for years to rebuild my mind terror happened

01:07:58.570 --> 01:08:01.389
and i died so i had a little garden on the somnus

01:08:01.389 --> 01:08:03.630
citadel and malka wouldn't leave me alone to

01:08:03.630 --> 01:08:05.550
tend to my garden so i had to go seizure terror

01:08:05.550 --> 01:08:11.329
womp womp uh poor garvey um i would say towards

01:08:11.329 --> 01:08:14.050
the end logan had a bit of like a i've accepted

01:08:14.050 --> 01:08:16.760
everything that's happened so far and also fuck

01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:20.060
you samus samus just like chases him in the seat

01:08:20.060 --> 01:08:21.680
of terry he's like so much of the man beside

01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:23.739
you he's like this is the man and the urinal

01:08:23.739 --> 01:08:29.880
beside you i think when i go to warhammer world

01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:31.640
i'm just gonna whisper that to people in the

01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:34.130
bathrooms He's going to be right behind us. Go

01:08:34.130 --> 01:08:37.310
to the bugman's queue for a beer and just be

01:08:37.310 --> 01:08:40.350
like, Samus is in the queue behind you. Samus

01:08:40.350 --> 01:08:43.510
is going to have your beer. Get away from me,

01:08:43.590 --> 01:08:46.909
Colin. I've got my fit check planned for Warhammer

01:08:46.909 --> 01:08:50.350
World. Oh, nice. Trying to play a game at Warhammer

01:08:50.350 --> 01:08:52.869
World. I'm not bringing an army with. I'm going

01:08:52.869 --> 01:08:55.430
to level with you, dude. People have armies.

01:08:56.510 --> 01:08:58.810
Go to a table and go, don't you know who I am?

01:08:58.829 --> 01:09:00.930
And just smash them aside. Yeah, playing a game

01:09:00.930 --> 01:09:05.029
of Warhammer might be someone else's army. Get

01:09:05.029 --> 01:09:08.430
the fuck out of my way, loser. I've got three

01:09:08.430 --> 01:09:12.250
armies. We know you're very happy to show them

01:09:12.250 --> 01:09:20.130
off. I know. Abaddon. Abaddon how? Abaddon. I

01:09:20.130 --> 01:09:22.409
mean, it's kind of an issue you would get with

01:09:22.409 --> 01:09:25.119
traitor guys. They kind of just Always deep down,

01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:28.579
Apadon is just like... Bro did take a gap year,

01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.819
to be fair. He doesn't need... I don't know if

01:09:32.819 --> 01:09:36.640
he needs therapy because he's like... I would

01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:38.800
say he's pretty happy as an individual. He's

01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.319
not miserable or anything. He doesn't need to

01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:43.079
cope with anything. He's like, yeah, I'm just

01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.699
the guy who's going to destroy the Imperium.

01:09:46.899 --> 01:09:50.199
He's happy to turn up to work every day. Should

01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:51.920
we just put him next to his blue victim just

01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:54.569
to make him feel better? Oh, that time you've...

01:09:54.569 --> 01:09:58.529
I feel better already, said Avedon. His blue

01:09:58.529 --> 01:10:04.810
victim. Little Horus Axemand. Oh, that guy is...

01:10:04.810 --> 01:10:09.130
That poor guy. I don't know how familiar you

01:10:09.130 --> 01:10:11.770
are with Axemand's lore later, Colin, but this

01:10:11.770 --> 01:10:16.270
guy is like... After he kills... I don't want

01:10:16.270 --> 01:10:17.829
to say, I don't want to spoil it for you. Maybe

01:10:17.829 --> 01:10:20.449
you know or not, but... Yeah, because I'm going

01:10:20.449 --> 01:10:23.359
to read it. No, but as in like... horus axiom

01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:26.140
man gets like haunted and he keeps hearing like

01:10:26.140 --> 01:10:28.260
a voice whispering behind him for the rest of

01:10:28.260 --> 01:10:31.039
the horus heresy and he literally is driven mad

01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:35.199
that's kind of funny uh he thinks logan is like

01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.180
haunting him but like he's like logan's dead

01:10:37.180 --> 01:10:39.100
why is he haunting me and then logan shows up

01:10:39.100 --> 01:10:41.659
in this new terror like i'm not dead and actually

01:10:41.659 --> 01:10:44.989
kills him Also, Colin, a white scar called Hibukan

01:10:44.989 --> 01:10:48.050
cuts his face off with a Zweihander, and then

01:10:48.050 --> 01:10:50.170
he has to staple it back on, and it's all like,

01:10:50.250 --> 01:10:52.930
and he's always looked like Horus, and then after

01:10:52.930 --> 01:10:56.170
that, it's like, you look like a fricked up Horus,

01:10:56.170 --> 01:10:59.829
bro. He's like, hey, fine. No worry about it.

01:11:00.789 --> 01:11:05.569
Yeah. Some sharp iron hand steel being wielded

01:11:05.569 --> 01:11:08.409
by a white scar. Not a good combo for his face.

01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:11.579
Should we put him... I think he should be quite

01:11:11.579 --> 01:11:13.739
high. Just want to quickly pop the loo back in

01:11:13.739 --> 01:11:17.460
a second. Okay. All right, then, Colin. Logar

01:11:17.460 --> 01:11:31.399
or alien? I mean... See, pre -Monarchia, he was

01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:34.579
doing pretty fine. I don't think he needed therapy

01:11:34.579 --> 01:11:41.949
at all. Hmm. Are you sure? I am positive. My

01:11:41.949 --> 01:11:45.470
father is here to help me fix that issue I was

01:11:45.470 --> 01:11:49.310
talking about. This is the worst timing. Okay,

01:11:49.369 --> 01:11:52.590
I guess I'll do it then. I would say post really

01:11:52.590 --> 01:11:55.090
quick before I also sprint off. My apologies.

01:11:55.310 --> 01:11:59.689
Post heresy? Nah, a lot. But pre -monarchia,

01:11:59.729 --> 01:12:02.630
he was fine. He was religious. The only sin he

01:12:02.630 --> 01:12:04.649
did, he was religious in a society that hated

01:12:04.649 --> 01:12:06.909
religion. That's not a sin. That is a need therapy.

01:12:08.140 --> 01:12:11.439
my apologies the book burnings didn't help though

01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:13.460
i will say well no that's not great but that's

01:12:13.460 --> 01:12:16.860
not a therapy thing that's just he's a Well,

01:12:16.860 --> 01:12:20.800
we'll get back to Lorgar, but for now, folks,

01:12:21.020 --> 01:12:23.739
just because the other two have abandoned me,

01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:26.119
we're going to do some donations very quickly.

01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.560
So the first one from J Townsend. Thank you very

01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:32.060
much, J Townsend. I hope you're feeling a bit

01:12:32.060 --> 01:12:34.239
better since your stitches. Well, friends, I

01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:35.800
have to pretend to care about work, but enjoy

01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:37.699
the rest of the stream. I shall see you all next

01:12:37.699 --> 01:12:40.020
week, hopefully with more Aussie lore stories.

01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.060
oh you know love auntie donna great comedy troupe

01:12:46.060 --> 01:12:50.239
love australia oh and then uh then that one by

01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:54.180
sobek good reference there uh five australian

01:12:54.180 --> 01:12:57.699
hey boys uh you get me through work uh have some

01:12:57.699 --> 01:13:00.699
dollary dues uh he just though we'll save it

01:13:00.699 --> 01:13:02.579
for colin maybe he gets that but colin i blame

01:13:02.579 --> 01:13:05.760
you for vtubers on my recommended they are reacting

01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:09.060
to thankful how did it's true like how did warhammer

01:13:09.060 --> 01:13:13.359
get we have such like a who's bricky strong vtuber

01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:16.460
ricky single -handedly opened the floodgates

01:13:16.460 --> 01:13:18.819
for vtubers now they're everywhere i was literally

01:13:18.819 --> 01:13:21.079
on a collab yesterday and there was a vtuber

01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:23.340
in like the kind of thing and she was like the

01:13:23.340 --> 01:13:24.920
only reason i'm into warhammer is because i saw

01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:26.840
that video by bricky i'm like yeah that'll do

01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:33.420
it has it's uh it's it's nailed in so deep into

01:13:33.420 --> 01:13:35.760
that i have you know i'm surprised it's such

01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:41.640
a good overlap And Montescar for 10. Every day

01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:43.979
I pray for any continuation of the Twice Dead

01:13:43.979 --> 01:13:47.340
King. No spoilers, but the second book ended

01:13:47.340 --> 01:13:49.739
on a really cool note, but it falls prey to Brings

01:13:49.739 --> 01:13:51.039
the Anos Thor and therefore goes in the bin.

01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:52.819
I've got to be honest, I don't think we'll ever

01:13:52.819 --> 01:13:58.859
see it again. Sorry to say. Yeah, it's tough.

01:13:59.060 --> 01:14:02.340
I mean, I think it was when it was originally

01:14:02.340 --> 01:14:04.079
written. I think we know it was actually written

01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:07.380
as one book. that was the thing and then it was

01:14:07.380 --> 01:14:10.239
split into two that's why it almost feels like

01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:13.739
it doesn't neatly like it feels like it joins

01:14:13.739 --> 01:14:19.180
across quite well but um I wish they again if

01:14:19.180 --> 01:14:21.840
the character you know the novels proved popular

01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:24.140
enough they're always seem to be willing willing

01:14:24.140 --> 01:14:26.779
to bring it back which we'd like it's been ages

01:14:26.779 --> 01:14:29.800
though like even um trezin and infinite divine

01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.220
that book is so well loved and yet that only

01:14:33.220 --> 01:14:37.560
seems to be like one there's only one of it so

01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:41.380
yeah pause it pausing us enjoys we don't you

01:14:41.380 --> 01:14:43.899
know you don't get anything yeah unfortunately

01:14:43.899 --> 01:14:52.920
uh so we were talking about lorgar um s tier

01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:56.600
yeah he needs a he even then he like in his heresy

01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:02.140
he wobbles so the guy is a you know But even,

01:15:02.260 --> 01:15:04.619
you know, he's a horrible human being. Oh, Erebus

01:15:04.619 --> 01:15:07.439
is the bottom of D by the way. Yeah. He does

01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:11.319
not have therapy. He is. He's had therapy. This

01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:14.359
is the result of his therapy. Yeah. Like he's

01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.539
a bad egg. I will wear the therapist skin and

01:15:17.539 --> 01:15:21.359
take on their social. What's their name? I'll

01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:25.180
take their social credit. Yeah. Social credit

01:15:25.180 --> 01:15:27.399
slash social insurance number as my own. And

01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:31.520
I will, I will pretend to be them. he's just

01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:33.079
like social security yeah he's just like he's

01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:35.199
that kind of guy's like i will talk to the therapist

01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:38.199
and i will reverse engineer their own mental

01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:41.239
health spiral and then i will be the the chad

01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:45.319
like oh here it is are you like this yeah vulcan

01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:48.359
oh good could you use a little bit he's he's

01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:51.800
not in a good place currently uh in the scouring

01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:54.380
stuff he's like killing emperor's children he's

01:15:54.380 --> 01:15:57.539
like want to join me in therapy and he's just

01:15:57.539 --> 01:16:00.500
smashing emperor's children uh he could probably

01:16:00.500 --> 01:16:04.479
go a because he's a vulcan's like he knows what

01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:06.579
to do like he's like i'm doing the right thing

01:16:06.579 --> 01:16:09.500
i'm venting i have my sons with me i'm talking

01:16:09.500 --> 01:16:11.500
to my brothers i'm doing the right thing but

01:16:11.500 --> 01:16:14.000
he's just having a bit of a tough time you know

01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.800
there's a bit of a tough time yeah and at least

01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.380
he's also like he he actually had like a good

01:16:19.380 --> 01:16:22.060
relationship with his adoptive father and the

01:16:22.060 --> 01:16:24.699
town he lived in and he he's good with his sons

01:16:24.699 --> 01:16:26.319
like he's he's one of the most compassionate

01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:28.420
the primarks that's his thing his foundation

01:16:28.420 --> 01:16:36.250
is strong Yes. Corvus Birdman. Next to Perturabo,

01:16:36.310 --> 01:16:40.369
please. Judge, jury, executioner, please next

01:16:40.369 --> 01:16:43.329
to Perturabo. He is incredibly depressed even

01:16:43.329 --> 01:16:47.970
before events happen. The man is just depression

01:16:47.970 --> 01:16:53.329
in the dictionary. It's not a phase, Dad. Yeah.

01:16:54.090 --> 01:16:58.859
Nevermore shall he smile. poor fella alpharius

01:16:58.859 --> 01:17:03.199
omegon yeah both of them yeah i guess technically

01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:09.060
it's only omegon because you know ferris is dead

01:17:09.060 --> 01:17:11.079
sanguine is dead but they needed therapy but

01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:15.140
you know kind of both they just need to be a

01:17:15.140 --> 01:17:17.979
bit more like i don't think they need it they

01:17:17.979 --> 01:17:22.699
were just like they made a tactical error they

01:17:22.699 --> 01:17:25.199
didn't they didn't deal with any i guess to fair

01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:26.979
the one that's still alive and the one who's

01:17:26.979 --> 01:17:28.960
like lost his twin brother probably needs to

01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:32.140
talk to someone maybe because they're like they're

01:17:32.140 --> 01:17:36.060
kind of almost too rational and emotionless to

01:17:36.060 --> 01:17:39.439
actually be like it affects me you know forever

01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:45.779
yeah who's the next one is that grimaldus hello

01:17:46.729 --> 01:17:49.489
you are now in charge of the hell's read crew

01:17:49.489 --> 01:17:53.409
said oh i hate my life this guy is uh you know

01:17:53.409 --> 01:17:55.069
you think at the end of hell's reach where he's

01:17:55.069 --> 01:17:59.069
like you know all of you of the imperial the

01:17:59.069 --> 01:18:03.789
crowd cheer while you're like still yeah that

01:18:03.789 --> 01:18:09.050
guy in his s me yeah He's been for a lot, but

01:18:09.050 --> 01:18:10.270
at least he had like the whole thing of like

01:18:10.270 --> 01:18:12.909
I will never have a squad again I was gonna have

01:18:12.909 --> 01:18:15.449
like these goobers carry the relics of our of

01:18:15.449 --> 01:18:18.229
hell's reach with me I'm gonna be a lone wolf

01:18:18.229 --> 01:18:21.609
now like okay Forgive me for living isn't it?

01:18:21.890 --> 01:18:27.970
Well, give me I still live the earth I'll call

01:18:27.970 --> 01:18:32.090
the cowboy Drago does not need any he is Perfect.

01:18:32.329 --> 01:18:35.470
He just lives in hell and he's like is that all

01:18:35.470 --> 01:18:41.449
you got? I'm still standing. You know, you're

01:18:41.449 --> 01:18:43.489
lodging here with me. That's his whole shtick,

01:18:43.489 --> 01:18:46.630
really. I did recently play for all of Chaos

01:18:46.630 --> 01:18:48.489
Gate as well, and I liked him at the end just

01:18:48.489 --> 01:18:50.789
being like, ah, we're going to kill Mortarion.

01:18:51.050 --> 01:18:53.270
Jolly good. Let's go get him. Like, ooh, okay,

01:18:53.409 --> 01:18:58.170
cool. Fair enough. And he does not care. He's

01:18:58.170 --> 01:18:59.470
just like, we're going to write you. Cazalyn

01:18:59.470 --> 01:19:03.920
Crow, maybe C. because the sword he wields is

01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:07.640
kind of a massive like pain in the ass like it's

01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:10.479
constantly whispering to him like yeah hey everybody's

01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:16.000
like hey hey hey mum mum mummy mummy mama but

01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:21.420
it's more like mum mum um yeah he's because of

01:19:21.420 --> 01:19:24.100
his gimmick with the sword the sword is already

01:19:24.100 --> 01:19:26.119
had issues though that's the whole thing of like

01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.520
they're too perfect you know they don't really

01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:34.380
need therapy Yeah. Geron Blackheart. This guy.

01:19:35.300 --> 01:19:39.140
Therapy. Maybe to cope with like pain management.

01:19:39.220 --> 01:19:41.600
Obviously his existence is incredibly painful

01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:45.220
for his injuries. He's kind of happy though.

01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:47.460
It's weird to say that he's kind of happy as

01:19:47.460 --> 01:19:50.659
an individual for like the rest of what he does.

01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:52.840
He's just in incredible amounts of pain. So he's

01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:55.880
just maybe 80 to be honest. He does have a chip

01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:58.500
on his shoulder as well of just like. I was trying

01:19:58.500 --> 01:20:00.140
to help the Imperium. They didn't know. They're

01:20:00.140 --> 01:20:02.659
stupid. And actually, I kind of am bitter about

01:20:02.659 --> 01:20:05.880
how the Badab War went. And, oh, you know, Avedon's

01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:07.560
an idiot and blah, blah, blah. He's always like,

01:20:07.659 --> 01:20:10.779
he's not good at making friends, which is kind

01:20:10.779 --> 01:20:13.159
of important if you're a leader. You've got to

01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:15.159
have allies. And he's like, I have allies of

01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:17.800
convenience. It's like, hmm, maybe you've got

01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.039
to work on some of your anger issues and maybe,

01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:23.840
like, forming bridges and not burning down everyone

01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:26.960
you see. I would put him next to Axiomand because...

01:20:27.789 --> 01:20:29.770
there's a similar thing going on there in terms

01:20:29.770 --> 01:20:33.470
of like pain and see yeah he's not as bad as

01:20:33.470 --> 01:20:39.029
axiom and hmm uh celestine she'd has no issues

01:20:39.029 --> 01:20:43.310
she's she's happy that's a happy person the emperor

01:20:43.310 --> 01:20:47.930
loves her you know she's doing great no she's

01:20:47.930 --> 01:20:53.260
like i'm killing heretics have you ever like

01:20:53.260 --> 01:20:55.140
read her book where it talks about like how her

01:20:55.140 --> 01:21:00.720
process yeah uh but it's always that thing of

01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:03.460
i had to say like it's almost there's pleasure

01:21:03.460 --> 01:21:06.439
in the pain in terms of like it's pain given

01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:08.819
of the duty of by the emperor so it's like to

01:21:08.819 --> 01:21:13.000
give you an idea Her thing is that she basically

01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:15.939
has to climb atop a pile of her own corpses,

01:21:16.020 --> 01:21:19.319
find her gear, and then she has every time she

01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:21.640
resurrects, there's fragments of her persona.

01:21:21.779 --> 01:21:24.220
There's a crone, a young girl, and another one.

01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:28.020
And she has to reconcile her guilt every time

01:21:28.020 --> 01:21:30.600
she dies and resurrects, and she goes through

01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:35.319
a trial of reestablishing her sanity each and

01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:39.000
every time. I think she could use a bit of therapy.

01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:45.800
Maybe. I'm not as well -versed. That sounds horrific.

01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:52.960
She's pretty bad. Ephrael Stern, Psyche sister.

01:21:54.020 --> 01:21:57.739
I know all of her, but I'm not well -versed in

01:21:57.739 --> 01:22:01.789
her lore to really state. Her thing is... she's

01:22:01.789 --> 01:22:04.930
kind of like a heretic almost because she's a

01:22:04.930 --> 01:22:07.489
psyker in the sororitas which is bad but also

01:22:07.489 --> 01:22:11.189
just like she she's seen as like oh how did you

01:22:11.189 --> 01:22:13.789
get your powers well kind of through like these

01:22:13.789 --> 01:22:17.369
demons infused me with power and i resisted their

01:22:17.369 --> 01:22:20.250
allure and goes through like comic books i haven't

01:22:20.250 --> 01:22:22.430
gone through a book book but the comic series

01:22:22.430 --> 01:22:27.019
um where it's like oh she's she's got like this

01:22:27.019 --> 01:22:29.300
inquisitor who's also there with her silas i

01:22:29.300 --> 01:22:31.520
think it is and it's like you've got to stay

01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:34.899
pure and the emperor and she and she's like ah

01:22:34.899 --> 01:22:37.720
i'm kind of like a bit of a the black sheep of

01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:40.140
the the sororitas and now she's got a friend

01:22:40.140 --> 01:22:42.720
who's a harlequin or a former harlequin perhaps

01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.800
because he doesn't wear a mask anymore and he's

01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:49.609
like okay that's kind of Difficult like oh, what's

01:22:49.609 --> 01:22:51.829
my kindred my sisterhood? Oh none of them like

01:22:51.829 --> 01:22:54.350
me because I'm possibly a heretic. Oh great Who's

01:22:54.350 --> 01:22:57.170
my best ally? Oh a harlequin. What does my order

01:22:57.170 --> 01:23:00.890
hate Xenos? Oh great Oh, am I like fighting for

01:23:00.890 --> 01:23:03.010
the Emperor? Yes, but am I also corrupted by

01:23:03.010 --> 01:23:11.930
demons maybe? She's okay I'd say like put her

01:23:11.930 --> 01:23:16.550
in I put her like near the lion I'd say because

01:23:16.550 --> 01:23:18.229
she's going through a lot especially like her

01:23:18.229 --> 01:23:20.310
transformation into a psyker is not pleasant

01:23:20.310 --> 01:23:22.869
with like a big mound of like a combination of

01:23:22.869 --> 01:23:24.590
like bodies all fused together and they're like

01:23:24.590 --> 01:23:27.310
full of demon powers like we died so you could

01:23:27.310 --> 01:23:30.850
have power and say uh um it's kind of weird um

01:23:30.850 --> 01:23:34.789
jesus i'm gonna leave caiaphas until uh colin's

01:23:34.789 --> 01:23:39.090
back um yarik ignore the second year he would

01:23:39.090 --> 01:23:42.529
refuse yarik needs it but he would refuse yeah

01:23:42.529 --> 01:23:46.670
he's like old man old men i'm too busy He would

01:23:46.670 --> 01:23:50.890
not take it. Eisenhorn? Oh my God, this poor

01:23:50.890 --> 01:23:54.649
guy. He's been through a lot. It's sad because

01:23:54.649 --> 01:23:56.909
basically every one of his friends is like, he

01:23:56.909 --> 01:23:59.250
lived too long. That's the problem with Eisenhorn.

01:23:59.949 --> 01:24:03.029
Nearly every person he's ever cared for is long

01:24:03.029 --> 01:24:08.899
gone. he probably needs to speak to someone but

01:24:08.899 --> 01:24:11.880
weirdly enough he's like he's lived so long now

01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:14.460
that he's almost like i've become okay with it

01:24:14.460 --> 01:24:17.899
i'm like a weapon rather than a person i'd probably

01:24:17.899 --> 01:24:21.739
put him in maybe just below horus because he

01:24:21.739 --> 01:24:23.659
would he's been he's seen some horrific shit

01:24:23.659 --> 01:24:28.000
he's also an inquisitor so he kind of horses

01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:32.520
and be him top of near but like yeah he's seen

01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:36.239
some stuff and he you know it's it's there's

01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:38.539
too much going on the eisenhorn story to like

01:24:38.539 --> 01:24:41.100
go into it but he's you know he's kind of okay

01:24:41.100 --> 01:24:44.579
and he's not okay you know he's like a regular

01:24:44.579 --> 01:24:46.680
person who's you know lived too long kind of

01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:52.899
thing inquisitor gray fax so kind of a reluctant

01:24:52.899 --> 01:24:56.239
friend of celestine trapped in time in trazen's

01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:58.260
vault for many years and then is released in

01:24:58.260 --> 01:25:00.319
the imperium as much changed from when she used

01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.000
to be Like in her prime, she's literally witnessed

01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.399
the rebirth of a Primarch, but she's also kind

01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:08.199
of gone through hell to get there. She saw the

01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:10.399
fall of Cadia. She was there during the Terran

01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.760
Crusade. And then she also helped Celestine foil

01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:15.859
a plot where she tried to overtake the Imperial

01:25:15.859 --> 01:25:18.380
Faith. She's seen a lot. She's been through a

01:25:18.380 --> 01:25:23.579
lot. Yes, I have heard of all the fanfics between

01:25:23.579 --> 01:25:26.340
her and Celestina's, like, more than friends

01:25:26.340 --> 01:25:28.800
because, of course, the internet did that. I

01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.579
know, but I think she's okay because she's kind

01:25:31.579 --> 01:25:33.539
of, like, she's not had anything that's, like,

01:25:33.539 --> 01:25:36.979
stumbled her. She's more been, like, inconveniences

01:25:36.979 --> 01:25:41.920
in the workplace. She doesn't suffer fools as

01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:44.899
well. She's okay. I'm going to skip the Eldar

01:25:44.899 --> 01:25:51.659
for as well because Colin. Silent King. it would

01:25:51.659 --> 01:25:54.859
just be a pointless session wouldn't it he's

01:25:54.859 --> 01:25:58.479
not he's not speaking he wouldn't say anything

01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:03.140
uh i think he's already like he's probably needs

01:26:03.140 --> 01:26:05.479
to at least mildly get something off his chest

01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:08.279
but oh yeah just like hey you know that time

01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:11.439
you like sacrificed an entire your entire species

01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:14.340
to become mindless automatons more or less how

01:26:14.340 --> 01:26:18.310
did that make you feel not great good we're making

01:26:18.310 --> 01:26:24.069
progress after millions of years he's like over

01:26:24.069 --> 01:26:30.210
it surely here's a fun for experiment how with

01:26:30.210 --> 01:26:32.449
the silent king and the emperor comparing each

01:26:32.449 --> 01:26:35.850
other silent king took all of his species at

01:26:35.850 --> 01:26:37.550
the height of their power and just like made

01:26:37.550 --> 01:26:39.770
them into a new thing but the emperor has been

01:26:39.770 --> 01:26:43.069
like mulching them for millennia who's done more

01:26:43.069 --> 01:26:45.960
damage to their species Because yes, humanity

01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:48.899
is still running, but it's like... Let me make

01:26:48.899 --> 01:26:52.260
a calculation. Hold on. Let me make a little

01:26:52.260 --> 01:26:57.720
calculation. So the Sonic King technically killed

01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:00.420
every single one of his own race, right? Because

01:27:00.420 --> 01:27:03.880
of the... They got transformed into Necrons.

01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:07.300
So there's probably quite a few... I don't know

01:27:07.300 --> 01:27:09.699
how many Necrons there are. There must be a few

01:27:09.699 --> 01:27:11.659
trillion, surely. They didn't have a million

01:27:11.659 --> 01:27:14.140
worlds, did they? Because Eldar was still...

01:27:14.569 --> 01:27:16.630
raining on their parade so they wouldn't have

01:27:16.630 --> 01:27:19.430
had as much like yield as humanity and humanity

01:27:19.430 --> 01:27:21.750
kind of infamously like has added like rabbits

01:27:21.750 --> 01:27:24.590
they're like the cannon fodder faction in a way

01:27:24.590 --> 01:27:27.989
so like has the emperor done more damage to the

01:27:27.989 --> 01:27:32.270
species than the necrons did to their own if

01:27:32.270 --> 01:27:35.649
this calculation is true because if the emperor

01:27:35.649 --> 01:27:39.890
needed a thousand souls every day to a thousand

01:27:39.890 --> 01:27:44.300
cycles every day I believe the calculation comes

01:27:44.300 --> 01:27:50.000
out to about... How big is this number? So 365

01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:56.260
,000 times 10 ,000. It's about 3 .65 billion.

01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.579
Yeah. That's how many people have been sucked

01:27:59.579 --> 01:28:01.699
into the government. That's just the battery

01:28:01.699 --> 01:28:04.300
supply, yeah. Yeah. And then there's all the

01:28:04.300 --> 01:28:09.470
millions of people fighting in the garden. Maybe

01:28:09.470 --> 01:28:12.989
the Emperor's Kill Count might be possibly larger,

01:28:13.010 --> 01:28:15.409
but then the Silent King for the War in Heaven,

01:28:15.550 --> 01:28:17.189
which we don't know how long that went on for.

01:28:18.930 --> 01:28:22.289
Who's the worst genocidal maniac? Maybe both.

01:28:23.789 --> 01:28:29.310
I think the Silent King is... Not us. Yeah, not

01:28:29.310 --> 01:28:32.850
you. Calm down. He went away millions of years

01:28:32.850 --> 01:28:34.930
and he's shown back up, so I assume he's done

01:28:34.930 --> 01:28:37.680
the work. He's put the work in and he's like,

01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:41.039
I'm just on the path of fixing things, you know?

01:28:41.060 --> 01:28:44.939
So maybe not bottom of D, but somewhere in D.

01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:49.779
Hmm. Okay. Put them with the old men, all the

01:28:49.779 --> 01:28:55.380
old men together. The old boys. Trazin. He actually

01:28:55.380 --> 01:28:58.159
has a bit more compassion than a lot of Necrons.

01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.039
This is tricky though, because Trazin's like

01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:08.090
thing. is he's quite a happy individual, you

01:29:08.090 --> 01:29:10.149
know, as they're saying, you know, he is like

01:29:10.149 --> 01:29:12.189
a, I don't know what animal it is, but like it's

01:29:12.189 --> 01:29:14.250
a thing in shit, isn't it? A pig in shit, that's

01:29:14.250 --> 01:29:19.130
it. Abomination. I prefer honored guests. Like

01:29:19.130 --> 01:29:21.109
he's having a great time. I don't know if he

01:29:21.109 --> 01:29:24.310
needs to vent about anything. It's more of like

01:29:24.310 --> 01:29:27.270
he would just do it to like, you know, just be

01:29:27.270 --> 01:29:29.529
like show off, you know, as again, a grown man,

01:29:29.590 --> 01:29:33.289
show off your plastic toy collection to not impress

01:29:33.289 --> 01:29:35.520
your girlfriend. you know your non -existent

01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:38.720
girlfriends uh so it would i think treason is

01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:43.079
probably doing quite well uh slight trauma of

01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:45.739
um being burned alive and being turned into a

01:29:45.739 --> 01:29:50.680
metal thing um but he's over it i think somewhat

01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:53.899
you know so he's he's doing okay he's doing more

01:29:53.899 --> 01:29:56.460
than okay okay he's in better than silent king

01:29:56.460 --> 01:29:59.300
he's probably next to fabius you know he's yeah

01:29:59.300 --> 01:30:03.210
he's like i wouldn't change much uh i almost

01:30:03.210 --> 01:30:07.270
forgot a mad scientist belisarius call similarly

01:30:07.270 --> 01:30:11.390
a pig in shit although he has that whole crisis

01:30:11.390 --> 01:30:14.850
of like he's kind of a father figure to alpha

01:30:14.850 --> 01:30:18.010
primus and he kind of cares for him and there's

01:30:18.010 --> 01:30:20.189
his gene father book he's sad when he's when

01:30:20.189 --> 01:30:22.050
what happens to him happens and he's like oh

01:30:22.050 --> 01:30:28.449
no i didn't mean you get hurt it's like and he

01:30:28.449 --> 01:30:31.109
retains more humanity than people let would let

01:30:31.109 --> 01:30:35.680
on There's nothing for Belisario's call to improve

01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:38.699
on, to vent, or to get anything out of therapy.

01:30:38.819 --> 01:30:40.359
He's just like, I'm just a man on a mission.

01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:45.420
A thing on a mission. But he is using bits of

01:30:45.420 --> 01:30:48.380
his personality and mind because of the sheer

01:30:48.380 --> 01:30:50.600
amount of people he's plugged into his conscious

01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:53.979
mind. So he's wrestling with that. Imagine having

01:30:53.979 --> 01:30:57.239
schizophrenia on steroids. It's like, all these

01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:01.239
people in my brain. It's a party in here. But

01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:03.220
he, like, he can take them out. As in, like,

01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:06.880
they're more of, like, he chooses to put in,

01:31:06.939 --> 01:31:09.479
like, personalities and memories. Like, he can

01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:13.340
literally choose to be happy. So I'd put him

01:31:13.340 --> 01:31:15.960
next to Trez in because he's, again, he's doing

01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:19.539
great, to be honest. He's so, he's joyous. Okay.

01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:27.920
We got Oberon and Zandrek. Mainly Zandrek. Again,

01:31:28.020 --> 01:31:31.960
they're kind of happy. A lot of the Necron characters

01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.319
probably are just like, I'm doing okay, guys.

01:31:35.460 --> 01:31:38.640
Just there's not really much more to them, really.

01:31:38.979 --> 01:31:41.279
I don't know what they need to vent. You know

01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:42.899
what I mean? There's no, like, help me through

01:31:42.899 --> 01:31:45.159
a thing. They're just like, we're just conquering

01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:48.180
our dead worlds. Where Zandrek has bits where

01:31:48.180 --> 01:31:50.260
he confides in Oberon and talks about, like,

01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:53.760
I'm not as, you know. He's already got a therapist.

01:31:54.119 --> 01:32:05.829
He's all good. And he's massive. I mean, I mean,

01:32:05.909 --> 01:32:12.630
come on. The guy is like, Gazgul is the happiest

01:32:12.630 --> 01:32:16.789
person on this list, surely. Although he does

01:32:16.789 --> 01:32:20.750
have his whole thing about trying to maintain

01:32:20.750 --> 01:32:25.270
the war without killing his best enemies. And

01:32:25.270 --> 01:32:29.149
what was it I was reading? Is it Grotsnik? book

01:32:29.149 --> 01:32:31.789
there's stuff about like how he basically tries

01:32:31.789 --> 01:32:33.810
to like make a better gas girl and gas girls

01:32:33.810 --> 01:32:36.770
like now you can't replace me but then grotsnick

01:32:36.770 --> 01:32:38.630
is like you're not even like a thing anymore

01:32:38.630 --> 01:32:41.430
you're just like a vessel for gawk and mork you're

01:32:41.430 --> 01:32:43.529
not like the gas girl i made you're just like

01:32:43.529 --> 01:32:45.670
a you're just like a you're a bucket i think

01:32:45.670 --> 01:32:47.609
he calls him like you're just a bucket for their

01:32:47.609 --> 01:32:50.310
energies to go into you you're just losing yourself

01:32:50.310 --> 01:32:54.189
and so i'm like maybe he's a bit like he doesn't

01:32:54.189 --> 01:32:59.109
know But he has no issues, surely. This guy is

01:32:59.109 --> 01:33:02.750
just... He's happy, killing. He's living the

01:33:02.750 --> 01:33:06.590
best orc life there is. What a great one. What

01:33:06.590 --> 01:33:11.909
a great time he's having. Makkari. Oh, that guy.

01:33:12.050 --> 01:33:15.729
That guy, yeah. That guy needs to be on the fucking

01:33:15.729 --> 01:33:21.569
watch list. For those who don't know, who's Makkari,

01:33:21.649 --> 01:33:24.220
Hal? he's his little his little psyche his little

01:33:24.220 --> 01:33:29.399
rodent his poor guy he's like you know the does

01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:31.779
makari is there more than one makari basically

01:33:31.779 --> 01:33:34.960
every time makari dies a new grot becomes makari

01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:38.000
and then because gaskell is the prophet of gork

01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.300
and walk he kind of infuses the memories and

01:33:40.300 --> 01:33:43.260
personality of the previous makari into the new

01:33:43.260 --> 01:33:46.199
one And so the law, I know they were like, oh,

01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:48.479
they just don't have the heart to tell Gaz that

01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:50.859
Makari's dead. But again, in the Grotsnik book,

01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:52.560
I think, no, it's not the Grotsnik. One of the

01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:55.659
books might be Grotsnik. I don't know. Because

01:33:55.659 --> 01:33:59.159
Grotsnik hates Makari. He's like, you're stupid.

01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:02.079
And he's all like, science is best. Gork and

01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:04.380
Mork and religion is stupid. But then he's like,

01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:09.189
I can't quite explain Makari because... ghazgal

01:34:09.189 --> 01:34:12.010
doesn't work without makari and vice versa you

01:34:12.010 --> 01:34:15.130
need both of them to complete the package and

01:34:15.130 --> 01:34:17.949
if you don't have a makari then ghazgal gets

01:34:17.949 --> 01:34:20.489
ill and starts falling apart and so he has to

01:34:20.489 --> 01:34:23.689
like resurrect him in his story and so it's like

01:34:23.689 --> 01:34:26.229
but the poor guy he's like i just want to be

01:34:26.229 --> 01:34:29.449
good for the boss but also oh i keep dying oh

01:34:29.449 --> 01:34:36.489
no leave me alone i want to hide under a desk

01:34:36.489 --> 01:34:40.779
um I thought we'd bring some Tau in, because

01:34:40.779 --> 01:34:43.880
why not? Aunchy? Eli's not here, you know. We

01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:46.159
don't have to care about Tau. It's okay. The

01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:49.039
only, I think, ethereal left on the board, because

01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.500
Aonvar is dead. Aondo is dead. It's just this

01:34:52.500 --> 01:34:55.380
guy. This guy's a very happy dude, though. He

01:34:55.380 --> 01:34:58.779
is at one, you know. I would say he's also maybe

01:34:58.779 --> 01:35:01.199
next to Gazgul. He's a very happy individual.

01:35:01.579 --> 01:35:04.899
I don't know if he's got any... And also, he's

01:35:04.899 --> 01:35:07.420
an ethereal, so they would not vent to anyone.

01:35:08.060 --> 01:35:11.060
because you know that's dangerous it could cause

01:35:11.060 --> 01:35:14.439
disunity in the empire but he's going to be doing

01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:18.060
quite well that guy he's aware the only ethereal

01:35:18.060 --> 01:35:21.979
to have quote come gutters so like there is that

01:35:21.979 --> 01:35:23.760
look at that guy he's really have to go that

01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:28.260
far look at this he's been working out he's been

01:35:28.260 --> 01:35:31.460
eating healthy he meditates he's probably got

01:35:31.460 --> 01:35:34.119
a very good mental health or the other tower

01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:37.300
like he never married never married he became

01:35:37.300 --> 01:35:41.859
he had to study the blade um speaking of studying

01:35:41.859 --> 01:35:45.340
the blade an even bigger weeaboo it's farsight

01:35:45.340 --> 01:35:49.579
he's had a tough time yeah he probably deserves

01:35:49.579 --> 01:35:51.939
to go in a because he's been through a lot you

01:35:51.939 --> 01:35:55.899
know he's lost his whole um civilization nearly

01:35:55.899 --> 01:36:00.640
and he almost got corrupted by you know in some

01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:03.079
way like chaos i think like fully but as in his

01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:06.920
whole he had to like leave and go be a hermit

01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:09.819
for a while and then he's fighting tyrannies

01:36:09.819 --> 01:36:11.859
like there's a lot of pressure on this guy you

01:36:11.859 --> 01:36:14.699
know he needs a break he i think he would probably

01:36:14.699 --> 01:36:18.199
go in eight here somewhere okay he deserves he

01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:21.500
deserves a break probably that poor guy uh let's

01:36:21.500 --> 01:36:25.649
go next to lehman why not that's our Oh, sorry,

01:36:25.770 --> 01:36:27.329
what have I done? Where did I put him? He goes

01:36:27.329 --> 01:36:29.909
back in D. He's in end of B. Oh, there we go.

01:36:30.090 --> 01:36:33.770
Yeah, far side. There, there we go. Hi, Colin.

01:36:34.310 --> 01:36:36.869
We saved the Eldar for you and some others. We

01:36:36.869 --> 01:36:38.390
just finished up the Tau, so don't worry, you

01:36:38.390 --> 01:36:44.090
didn't miss much. I can hear the squeak. The

01:36:44.090 --> 01:36:49.550
doggy has a squeaky toy. Dog! And Shasso case,

01:36:49.850 --> 01:36:52.359
because... I wouldn't be forgiven by Eli if I

01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:55.079
didn't put him in. He's happy. Happier clan,

01:36:55.279 --> 01:36:57.380
that guy. He seems pretty happy being a murderer.

01:36:58.180 --> 01:37:01.739
Is he though? Yes, no issues whatsoever. Did

01:37:01.739 --> 01:37:05.340
you put him in a tub? That is not a person. That

01:37:05.340 --> 01:37:07.439
is a weapon. Yeah, he's the protagonist of an

01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:10.460
FPS game. He exists to kill. He's quite content.

01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:16.100
The only thing they fear is you. Okay, Shadow

01:37:16.100 --> 01:37:19.939
Sun. She's experienced the birth of a Tao god.

01:37:20.460 --> 01:37:24.039
She could possibly use some therapy. Yeah. Maybe

01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:25.619
B, though, because I don't feel like she's got

01:37:25.619 --> 01:37:28.840
a lot. She's also got a bit of an inferiority

01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:32.560
complex thing with, like, why girls are chosen

01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.300
by her. She's in a rock and a hard place between,

01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:39.699
like, Farsight is my, like, compadre. We, like,

01:37:39.739 --> 01:37:43.800
are warriors, but also I kind of don't like where

01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:47.579
the ethereals are going, and he's a rebel, but

01:37:47.579 --> 01:37:52.010
also... he's a warrior and i'm oh now there's

01:37:52.010 --> 01:37:56.930
a tao god oh no shadow sun it's weird books then

01:37:56.930 --> 01:37:59.109
she's got some things to say but she's not dealing

01:37:59.109 --> 01:38:02.729
with like a constant you know like life -altering

01:38:02.729 --> 01:38:06.890
issues she's more just like uh i have some grievances

01:38:06.890 --> 01:38:09.189
i say that's the best way but she has some grievances

01:38:09.189 --> 01:38:13.930
a fine addition to her collection uh we saved

01:38:13.930 --> 01:38:18.289
this one for you colin uh caiaphas cane I'd say

01:38:18.289 --> 01:38:23.050
top of B tier. Because honestly, I think he just

01:38:23.050 --> 01:38:25.630
needs a long conversation about why it's okay

01:38:25.630 --> 01:38:32.170
to be afraid. And probably, you know, at this

01:38:32.170 --> 01:38:34.109
point, I mean, the lie is too deep. But, you

01:38:34.109 --> 01:38:35.789
know, someone should have told him at the start

01:38:35.789 --> 01:38:38.109
of his career that, hey, man, it's all right.

01:38:39.029 --> 01:38:41.170
No one's going to be that upset if they find

01:38:41.170 --> 01:38:46.199
out, you know, it's fine. Well, I mean. i don't

01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:50.920
know i well his therapy is he's got massive imposter

01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:54.819
syndrome yeah he probably needs to find a way

01:38:54.819 --> 01:38:58.380
of being like in a way like if he didn't like

01:38:58.380 --> 01:39:03.079
the whole shtick is if like he realized he was

01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:04.960
a hero or something he probably would get himself

01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:09.060
killed yeah so i mean it's worth it you know

01:39:09.060 --> 01:39:11.319
he's pretty old now and i mean canonically dead

01:39:12.030 --> 01:39:14.170
Towards the end, someone could have probably

01:39:14.170 --> 01:39:16.750
told him, hey man, you're not as full of shit

01:39:16.750 --> 01:39:20.050
as you think you are. You can bring him down

01:39:20.050 --> 01:39:22.210
to C tier then. Maybe he doesn't need that much.

01:39:23.430 --> 01:39:28.149
Yeah, he's doing okay though. Yeah. Ivraine.

01:39:29.890 --> 01:39:34.090
She needs to be shot in the street. You know

01:39:34.090 --> 01:39:38.529
what's really... I have a prediction that people

01:39:38.529 --> 01:39:43.199
in about four... maybe three to four years people

01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:48.039
will go who like gen generally people are going

01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:51.239
to say who is that like it will be it will be

01:39:51.239 --> 01:39:56.359
an obscure quiz answer who is your brain like

01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:58.699
because this person doesn't get anything i mean

01:39:58.699 --> 01:40:02.340
i don't know about her in the same faction we

01:40:02.340 --> 01:40:04.699
kind of have that with prince uriel don't we

01:40:04.699 --> 01:40:09.680
do people know about prince uriel He at least

01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:11.739
has like a novel and some stuff. Yeah, you could

01:40:11.739 --> 01:40:18.300
use some therapy. I don't know enough about your

01:40:18.300 --> 01:40:22.140
reign to like, stay where she is. Probably B

01:40:22.140 --> 01:40:26.100
tier. I think just like general, you know, someone

01:40:26.100 --> 01:40:29.939
to rant to. Kinda a lot of stress being the leader

01:40:29.939 --> 01:40:32.899
of the Inari, not least because the Inari suck.

01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:39.439
Yeah. she doesn't wear shoes she doesn't wear

01:40:39.439 --> 01:40:41.140
shoes and all these like people on the internet

01:40:41.140 --> 01:40:43.159
were like yes and like that was her one thing

01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:47.100
um but that's a different type i don't think

01:40:47.100 --> 01:40:50.180
i don't think eldred or asserman either need

01:40:50.180 --> 01:40:55.199
therapy to be honest with you i mean eldred's

01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:58.359
got a lot on his plate he does you know he does

01:40:58.359 --> 01:41:02.359
have quite a bit on his plate But I think he'd

01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:04.420
still be, like, bottom of C tier. Like, he'd

01:41:04.420 --> 01:41:06.619
just need someone to rant to maybe once a week.

01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:08.600
I don't think he's got any deep -seated issues.

01:41:09.579 --> 01:41:14.119
Ever since Artemis reported his plans to kill

01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:16.180
some nations, he's like, I kind of helped build

01:41:16.180 --> 01:41:18.939
a god of death. Things are looking up for me.

01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:21.359
He just needs someone to, like, yell at about

01:41:21.359 --> 01:41:23.979
the bullshit hands he keeps getting. Asserman

01:41:23.979 --> 01:41:28.680
is deep -seated about all. Zero self -esteem

01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:31.039
issues, zero anything like that. He named himself

01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:35.460
the Hand of God. I think Bro is perfectly fine.

01:41:36.300 --> 01:41:39.840
I kind of just thought like Azamon, because Phoenix

01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:44.000
Lords might as well put the one that people recognize

01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:47.539
with James R. He kind of just gets back to it,

01:41:47.579 --> 01:41:52.560
though. Combination of lots of people. Lots of

01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:56.279
previous men. I assume just men with him in the

01:41:56.279 --> 01:42:02.020
armor. All living together in harmony. See? Doing

01:42:02.020 --> 01:42:06.600
alright. Lelef Hesperax. She would eat the therapist.

01:42:07.039 --> 01:42:10.840
I don't think she's ever been upset at what she

01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:15.819
does. I think she's pretty content. In fact,

01:42:15.819 --> 01:42:20.510
I think she wants to do more. She doesn't like

01:42:20.510 --> 01:42:22.949
the fact that she can't be in charge of her Coliseum

01:42:22.949 --> 01:42:24.930
anymore. She doesn't like the fact that she's

01:42:24.930 --> 01:42:28.149
been kind of exiled from Kormorah by Azdrabail.

01:42:28.590 --> 01:42:31.909
And she's not really the biggest fan of being

01:42:31.909 --> 01:42:35.390
the bodyguard of Ibrahim. But she's kind of like,

01:42:35.489 --> 01:42:40.489
if ever I have to, I'll kill you. Yeah, but I

01:42:40.489 --> 01:42:42.090
think all of those are just like, you made that

01:42:42.090 --> 01:42:44.409
decision. You need to live with it. Those aren't

01:42:44.409 --> 01:42:46.430
like deep -seated issues. That's just like, you

01:42:46.430 --> 01:42:48.529
should have... done better with your career choice,

01:42:48.710 --> 01:42:51.989
lady. Come on, throw a lampshade. You'll feel

01:42:51.989 --> 01:42:54.649
better. She's not upset by anything, to be honest.

01:42:55.909 --> 01:42:59.270
Is there one last one there as well? Yeah, where

01:42:59.270 --> 01:43:00.970
were we thinking we'd let it before we do that?

01:43:01.189 --> 01:43:06.149
DD. Yeah, that's again, you made your decisions

01:43:06.149 --> 01:43:07.850
on that. That's not you need therapy, that's

01:43:07.850 --> 01:43:13.079
you needed a better career coach. I feel like

01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:15.420
that's another D tier. That's the bottom of D.

01:43:15.699 --> 01:43:19.880
Yeah, dude. He's the opposite of... He revels

01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:22.960
in being a shitter. He needs to be put down,

01:43:23.100 --> 01:43:25.300
but I don't think he needs therapy. I think he's

01:43:25.300 --> 01:43:29.579
perfectly content in his life. That man is just

01:43:29.579 --> 01:43:33.180
pure evil. The most he might need is someone

01:43:33.180 --> 01:43:37.100
to catch that rascal Jagged Eye. Depending on

01:43:37.100 --> 01:43:39.949
how that plotline is going. I don't know what

01:43:39.949 --> 01:43:41.510
they're going to do with that. Are they going

01:43:41.510 --> 01:43:44.350
to explain like Jagtite entered the webway and

01:43:44.350 --> 01:43:48.090
then just immediately exits? Wait a minute. Things

01:43:48.090 --> 01:43:50.750
look different. I still think they need to combine

01:43:50.750 --> 01:43:53.729
the White Scars and Harlequin and have the laughing

01:43:53.729 --> 01:44:01.300
force. Laughter force. Pickle Meisters. Yeah,

01:44:01.300 --> 01:44:05.220
the giggle clowns. And yeah, you could have light

01:44:05.220 --> 01:44:06.659
white scars with the bikes and you could have

01:44:06.659 --> 01:44:10.420
the harlequins and be fast moving attack. And

01:44:10.420 --> 01:44:14.899
that'd be fun. Strike force funny. But yeah,

01:44:14.979 --> 01:44:17.920
and that's pretty much the whole list. There

01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:19.640
could have been some other people we added, but

01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:21.060
I think to be fair, we've done a pretty good

01:44:21.060 --> 01:44:26.600
bash of it. We did a decent few. to finish us

01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:31.699
off. Also, by the way, Colin Sobeck said, Colin,

01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:33.779
I blame you for the VTubers on my recommended

01:44:33.779 --> 01:44:39.760
feed. My bad. That was one of the donations we

01:44:39.760 --> 01:44:46.500
got. My bad, Pim. But shall we read a few more

01:44:46.500 --> 01:44:50.899
donations before we close today's episode? NicholasRPMax,

01:44:51.220 --> 01:44:54.100
thank you for the 500 yen. Hey guys, I'm curious

01:44:54.100 --> 01:44:55.920
on your thought whether Magnus is a better written

01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:57.939
villain or not in terms of how self -absorbed

01:44:57.939 --> 01:45:02.899
or even pathetic he is. It's difficult because

01:45:02.899 --> 01:45:05.000
he's not really like, he doesn't see himself

01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:09.060
as a villain and the time when he properly is

01:45:09.060 --> 01:45:13.699
as demon Magnus, he's kind of... Yeah, a bit

01:45:13.699 --> 01:45:17.159
one note at that point. It's more of like a force,

01:45:17.380 --> 01:45:21.859
you know, a weapon rather than a... character

01:45:21.859 --> 01:45:25.779
so i wouldn't say he's a you know decent i say

01:45:25.779 --> 01:45:29.520
decently written uh enough to make me despise

01:45:29.520 --> 01:45:32.859
him you know i i'd prefer if like when logan

01:45:32.859 --> 01:45:35.779
hit him with the big axe he got split into like

01:45:35.779 --> 01:45:37.960
two or three and it'd be like the pink horror

01:45:37.960 --> 01:45:39.960
thing where it's like you could have multiple

01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:42.680
magnuses who are not as powerful as one big magnus

01:45:42.680 --> 01:45:45.319
always getting in each other's ways and saying

01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:47.039
i'm the one in charge and you could have like

01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:50.279
some shenanigans rather than just he big Big

01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:52.539
magic. Because then otherwise, nothing can really

01:45:52.539 --> 01:45:55.880
beat Magnus. And then it's just, I'm so clever,

01:45:55.939 --> 01:45:58.619
me get out of my way. And he just bulldozes a

01:45:58.619 --> 01:45:59.779
lot of the problems out of the way. Whereas if

01:45:59.779 --> 01:46:02.319
you had him fighting against himself, that could

01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:07.260
be a fun way to do it. For what it's worth. Oh,

01:46:07.380 --> 01:46:09.720
B -Town for Sweden. Yeah, Hal Volkan got ultra

01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:12.300
tortured to insanity. Yeah, but he got over it.

01:46:12.579 --> 01:46:16.840
It was alright. He got over it. He does seem

01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:20.069
to kind of just have handled it. Yeah. He was

01:46:20.069 --> 01:46:25.329
reborn and he was okay. He's hugging Dawn. He's

01:46:25.329 --> 01:46:30.930
okay. Brain Flayer for 10 Australian. I'm not

01:46:30.930 --> 01:46:32.909
sure whether sending Conrad Curse of Therapy

01:46:32.909 --> 01:46:36.710
would either not work or make him well adjusted

01:46:36.710 --> 01:46:39.529
in the way that Hannibal Lecter is well adjusted.

01:46:39.789 --> 01:46:42.350
Good for Curse, worse for everyone else. Yeah,

01:46:42.350 --> 01:46:46.590
maybe I'll make him blend in more. Darth Sasquatch

01:46:46.590 --> 01:46:49.109
for two. Doesn't Gilliman have a female elf therapist?

01:46:53.869 --> 01:46:57.170
He's got an advisor. I don't think that guy's

01:46:57.170 --> 01:47:01.189
a therapist. Yeah. Oh, there's like the Ecclesiarch

01:47:01.189 --> 01:47:04.109
dude as well. He's like, I like religion. Oh,

01:47:04.229 --> 01:47:09.750
he's no longer with us. Oh, yeah. True. Isn't

01:47:09.750 --> 01:47:12.479
the elder advisor that guy is like? I fucking

01:47:12.479 --> 01:47:16.859
hate it here. Yeah, he is. I hate it with these

01:47:16.859 --> 01:47:21.760
humans. I hate it. Someone want to taste one?

01:47:24.140 --> 01:47:27.079
Monty Scarf with the five Australian. Gaz gets

01:47:27.079 --> 01:47:29.000
frustrated with other orcs not wanting to fight

01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.119
him and he's basically hurting very violent cats.

01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:34.579
I guess, you know, maybe the orc version of a

01:47:34.579 --> 01:47:36.739
therapist he needs, which is an orc to just nut

01:47:36.739 --> 01:47:41.029
up and punch him in the face finally. And the

01:47:41.029 --> 01:47:47.329
last one from NicholasRPM4X for 500 yen, I assume.

01:47:47.670 --> 01:47:50.189
Also, call is C tier at least. He keeps making

01:47:50.189 --> 01:47:53.909
robot clones of his dead friend Quovo. Quovo?

01:47:54.029 --> 01:47:58.430
Quovo? QVO. Quovo or something. Yeah, something

01:47:58.430 --> 01:48:02.050
Quovo. It is Quovo, yeah. But the friend is called

01:48:02.050 --> 01:48:05.630
Freedish. Yeah, Freedish Quovo. That's the one.

01:48:05.789 --> 01:48:08.109
Yeah. How about we put this fun name in there?

01:48:09.770 --> 01:48:13.409
getting ambitious uh but yeah that's all from

01:48:13.409 --> 01:48:16.390
us today oh hello colin's running after the dog

01:48:16.390 --> 01:48:18.869
guests he's got guests that's all good guests

01:48:18.869 --> 01:48:21.590
that's all right uh but that's okay thank you

01:48:21.590 --> 01:48:24.409
all very much for joining us today uh we have

01:48:24.409 --> 01:48:27.630
now completely fixed all of the uh the mental

01:48:27.630 --> 01:48:29.689
health issues of all the characters we've mentioned

01:48:29.689 --> 01:48:32.149
because it was definitely easy getting them a

01:48:32.149 --> 01:48:33.789
therapist and they would have been fine because

01:48:33.789 --> 01:48:37.149
that would have worked um you know magnus it's

01:48:37.149 --> 01:48:39.979
like i don't need you huzzah flicks them away

01:48:39.979 --> 01:48:42.060
with a blast of psychic energy lick my balls

01:48:42.060 --> 01:48:45.380
yes yeah well thank you guys for listening of

01:48:45.380 --> 01:48:47.420
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01:48:47.420 --> 01:48:49.420
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01:48:49.420 --> 01:48:52.659
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01:48:55.399 --> 01:48:58.020
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01:48:58.020 --> 01:48:59.420
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