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hello ladies and gentlemen the war crimes today

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we are fixing the end times coming at you from

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all points of the world here on our podcast for

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warhammer 40k fantasy how's everybody doing today

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I think, did Colin say last week, the sun never

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sets on... The sun never sets on the Lord Grimes

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Empire, baby. Yeah, guys. We're doing mostly

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okay. Fellow American bros, it is so over this

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week, though, as April 15th is always, you know,

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tax day. Hang me from the trees. We've already

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been through that on the 4th, so it's not too

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far away. Ah, well. Lovely. Once again, guys,

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welcome to the Lord Cries podcast. We're on Spotify.

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We're on all the other sites. If you want to

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watch it unedited, as usual, you ravenous chat,

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as always. You want to see the live event with

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our beautiful faces, you've got to tune in live

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on the Friday evenings. For a little while, I

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think we'll be doing it at 10. EST or BST British

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Summer Time or relevant it'll be an hour later

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than usual for people going forward central time

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is the only correct time zone anyways so that's

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why it's number zero GMT -0, baby. It's the standard

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to which all time zones are spurred from. No,

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it stands for... It's the center of the universe

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and the center of the world. The stupid misstandard

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time. July's got up at 6 in the morning for this,

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by the way. So, actually, shout out to the lad

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here. Because today's topic is a fun one. We

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definitely did not scramble together. last minute

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because we couldn't think of a really good one,

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but we're going to fix the end times, guys. Not

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every single detail. We're going to attempt to

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discuss our way through some of the really cool

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and interesting big lore moments. Not every detail,

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but we're going to scramble together our piss

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-poor knowledge and we'll hopefully make it a

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bit more interesting. Before we do, Colin. Can

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you outline what the primary problem is for End

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Times for people who aren't aware? What's wrong

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with it? For those unaware, the gist of it is

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that GW blew up Warhammer Fantasy, so it's already

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going to be a tough sell because Warhammer is

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a hobby. It tends to be one people invest a lot

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of time and money and energy into. Armies aren't

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cheap. quick to put together so the immediate

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sell of hey we're blowing that all up rough start

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and then the follow -up of uh also we're going

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to introduce a bunch of plot lines we're going

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to ignore previous lore and those plot lines

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are going to be nothing because the death star

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is hitting the planet at the end of it all made

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the event a little bit rough a little bit disliked

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one could say people weren't the biggest fan

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Or still aren't the biggest fans because even,

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you know, look, even people who are really only

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into AOS and much prefer AOS, they're like, yeah,

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the end times were kind of ass. Like there's

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just, they're just not well -written. Mostly.

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They have moments. They have moments. Was it

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your first foray into Warhammer lore as well?

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It was because, look, I'll give the End Times

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a little bit of credit. When you don't know what

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you're reading and you're just, you know, you're

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in your church parking lot waiting for your shift

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to start and you read the wiki page on End Times.

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Damn, that stuff all sounds really cool. We got

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this big old magical wall and Elven civil wars

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and the return of the god or necromancer of great

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death, Super Nagash. Awesome. It's like, damn,

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this stuff goes hard. And then you read about

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it and you're like, well, the setting did go

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hard. Are you suggesting that people should...

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Start with the end times and work backwards because

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it gets better as you go back. Yeah, no, yeah.

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Start with the end times because that's the only,

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if you don't know nothing about Warhammer fantasy,

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that's the only way to make the end times palatable

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is if you don't know a single damn thing about

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this. We only up from here because everything

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else is down. Speaking of that, we want to start.

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No, no, I don't. I don't need to say what I was

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about to say. Thanks for pointing out that I

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have a bit of a zit on my forehead, Chet. Don't

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be mean to Colin. You guys try to be on camera

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all the time. Don't worry. We're going to start,

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though, with this event because some of you guys

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are fantasy veterans. You know your law. I'm

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going to start with one the bigger. I mean, maybe

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the biggest thing in the entire End Times event,

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which is the return of he who shall be named

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a thousand times. You will never forget it. It

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is Nagash. Colin, do you want to speak of Nagash?

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I realized recently that, you know, like the

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trailers for like the new one with Nagash in

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Total War and Horus in his Let the Galaxy Burn.

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Same voice actor. Oh, yeah. I thought they sounded

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similar. I don't know. They were the same. Same

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guy? Good for him. Damn, who is he? Is his name

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Craig or something? I could find out. It's just

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so weird. It could be. He was also like Hadriel

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in Angels of Death and then he was like, I like

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all the support I've been getting from Hadriel

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and he had one of my thumbnails on his Instagram

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and was like, oh, oh, oh, that fella. Oh, okay.

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What were you saying though, Andy? Oh, sorry,

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I was just saying that, yeah, like the same blokes.

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Horus and Nagash are the same. I thought you

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were starting. It was me. Oh, how? I said, do

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you want to explain in brief notes how the return

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of Nagash sort of comes to fruition? Like, what

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are we going to change? Like, what's the basis?

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So in the end times, and I'll start with, I guess,

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saying this is just, you know, this is like kind

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of the opening act and, you know, the first big

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hitter. The Nagash stuff is about the only stuff

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that's consistently well -ish written. So it

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probably needs the least amount of changes. With

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that said, Manfred von Karstein, everyone's favorite

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bald asshole vampire, kidnapped the Everchild

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of the High Elves named Aliothra, which for reference,

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the Queen of the High Elves, her soul is like

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this weird hive composite soul of their god,

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Isha, and every other one. So she would be the

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next in line to get the Super Saiyan elf soul

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when Alariel dies. Is she the... She's a pure

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soul. Wasn't that the ingredient? Yeah, she's

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a nice, innocent little chibi elf child. Chibi

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child. Big cheeks. Yeah. On her face. So Manfred,

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of course, goes, well, don't mind if I do Amber

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Alert that child. And steals her from a... while

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she was on a diplomatic mission to the dwarfs

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because she was just you know such a little ray

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of sunshine even the dwarfs are like yes this

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knife here is all right so wow uh so what it

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ended up happening was tyrian goes on a rampage

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to try and rescue his daughter because lariel

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was a little bit of cheating going on there with

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the phoenix king uh and tyrian ended up having

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uh being the father And because of, you know,

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like you said, pure soul and either way, they

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would love to get their hands on all of Isha's

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power. They use her and a couple others to sacrifice

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to Nagash and bring him back, which works. Nagash

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does come back. He doesn't get the Everqueen

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soul because Alariel is still alive. So until

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that happens, Aliothra is just kind of like an

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elf. Until the previous Everqueen dies, it doesn't

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actually mean anything, obviously, other than

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ceremonially. There's no physical benefit. He

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does get the Curse of Cain because that's Tyrion's

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child also, so Nagash has a little bit of Cain

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in him for a bit, but he's already kind of an

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asshole, so it can't really make Nagash any worse.

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And either way, though, he's back. Death is ascendant.

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Nagash is ready to... make some waves and become

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the only Chaos God because he's aiming for nothing

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but the highest of heights. Speaking of Cain,

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though, he was asking who it was. It was Richard

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Reid who did the voices. He also does the audiobook

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for Cain's Last Stand, Infinitely Divine. He's

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been in Darktide Space 32 and like 500 characters

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across Warhammer. It's like prolific. Cain in

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the gash. Cain's in the gash. I found it. I did

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the research. Damn it, Richard. Richard's going

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to be my brain. It's in the Trazin book. He says,

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like, you know. Dick in the brain. Dick in the

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brain. He has, like, a way, like, he has, like,

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you know, like, you have to do accents in voice

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acting. Shout out to the White Scars once again,

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by the way. But he does a very good, like, I

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don't know, was it, like, Necron one, Richard?

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So, appreciate it, man. He's, like, Petty King

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and Titans and other stuff. He's pretty good.

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I was going to say. kill him i'm back on good

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terms with him he's uh he he me and him are cooking

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something up awesome send me the files i'll say

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no more but me and are cooking something but

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say no more uh i'll say starting off though because

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there's a there's a few interesting interesting

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details that i would say with this part in like

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nagash's return it's still i agree like quite

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well done and i wouldn't change too many elements

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except I believe there's a certain elf lord who

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does get absolutely pasted I wonder if you have

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thoughts on that Colin or would you yeah so so

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for context on that Hal is referring to Elthari

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in the Grimm who does a good showing of preventing

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Nagash's return and Possum was speaking He's

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providing me with glorious things. The place

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has the goods. It's okay. Don't worry. You will

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certainly be seeing it when it arrives next live

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stream after that. But anyway. Topic. Topic.

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Eltharion the Grim was part of the people trying

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to save Aliatra, and he gave a good showing of

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it. He did... He lost some of his artifacts,

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but he got close enough to arc in the black Nagash's

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right -hand man. to just start slamming his skull

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into a cauldron. Like that was the focal point

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of the ritual. So he just beating the snot out

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of them. The, the unfortunate problem, however,

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was that Arkin is a lich. And if I remember correctly

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from old fantasy stats, how magic worked, he

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was like a level four lich, like wizard. So quite

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powerful, like the highest you can get in the

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game without being Nagash. And so Arkin snapped

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his fingers and Altharion aged to dust in nanoseconds.

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It's not an end I'm happy with, but if he's going

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to be there, he's going to be charging in like

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that. And the Arkin was powerful enough that

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like he broke Altharion's like protective wards

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and like his, I think he had an amulet that allowed

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him to resist magic to some extent, but Arkin

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just like, strong -armed through it. So... I

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have an interesting part to add in here. Because

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slightly earlier to the resurrection of Nagash,

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I believe the first Warhammer character, Heinrich

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Kemmler, is obliterated, is he not? He is. Arkan

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also kills him. Arkan got quite the kill count

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in the end times. I thought it would be quite

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an interesting thing if... Heinrich maybe played

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along a bit more and then was actually at the

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ritual itself. So it was a bit more of an event

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where it's like, it's not just all the good guys.

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There's an annoying thing in Warhammer where

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it's like, oh, we got so close, but then the

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thing like did succeed. And it's a bit more of

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a, I think it's a bit more of a twist if more

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characters die in like interesting events rather

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than like. in a side plot, essentially. Arkid

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just ass -blasting him. Just, you know, ligma

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balls exploded. It'd be quite cool if Heinrich

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Kemmler and Altharion maybe, as in he killed

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Kemmler first and then died to Mr. Black Teeth

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Skeleton himself later. That could be cool. My

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only thing, though, is I do think... I like Eltharain.

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He's one of my favorite high elf characters.

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But also, hell yeah, I need to turn the light

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on in my room. Holy shit. The only thing is that

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there does need to be some stakes. Like, you

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know, characters are going to need to be dying.

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And as much as I like him, he is one of the best

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characters to kill, narratively speaking. Because

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his whole thing is, you know, he's the warden

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of Tori Fress. He's, you know... He had his character

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arc in his story, and now he's the grim defender

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of Ulthuan. Out of every high elf character to

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just have killed off, especially early on, he's

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probably the best one because he's going to have

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the same general attitude no matter what he's

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in, which is grimly defend his homeland. So if

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there's a character to kill off, he's the best

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one to do it, which is not me saying he is like

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a bad character. I love the guy, but he's had

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his arc. He's had it. And I feel like his death

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would probably be the best one to raise the stakes,

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but leave narrative room open. So he should stay

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as a casualty. The resurrection of Nagash is

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somewhat, I wouldn't say no -nos, but it's a

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part where like, there's not much we would like

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to change, I think, right? kind of like well

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done and it's a pretty big deal you know arch

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necromancer himself is returned and it's terrifying

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but he's also not like insta one it's all over

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guys you know go pack up your your jean shorts

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and you know it's time to die or something I

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would say that maybe if Kemmler is around a bit

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more, Altharion could do a bit more towards weakening

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that ritual. Because something I would change

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coming up is that after he's resurrected, his

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first order of business is to obliterate Nehekhara.

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Just like no holds barred, it's gone, basically.

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And anyone left is serving him now. There's the

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classic, Cetra does not serve, which banger.

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Banger. We can keep that. Should keep that. but

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it does eliminate the Tomb Kings essentially

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as their own thing because they all just get

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subsumed into Nagash's horde or annihilated.

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So if he's a little bit weaker in that starting

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ritual, we can make it so Tomb Kings going forward

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in the end times could actually be doing things

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as opposed to just Nagash's will. Which even

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then, what we got, it makes sense he did what

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he did. He's Nagash. The dead are all under him

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as far as his ego is concerned. So him going

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to do it, I don't have a problem with, even in

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canon. It's just a matter of if he's a little

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bit weaker, maybe Eltharion and Kemmler can mess

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with their ritual a bit. He doesn't come back

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as much as he'd like, or not as powerful again.

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It would be cool to see more Tomb King resistance,

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or some of them go shack up with the other factions.

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You're speaking of something quite cool, because

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whilst we're on the topic of it, we might as

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well... Well, pretty soon after the return of

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the Gash is his invasion. He subsumes his Mortarchs.

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I can't remember all of them, but I'm sure Neferata,

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Manfred, Arkhan, Krell is one of them. The weird

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guy who has the castle in the Empire that everyone

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hates. Oh, Drachenfels. Yeah, it'd be cool to

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see him a bit more as well. So the Mortarchs

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all assemble and they basically head down to

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Khemri. Do you want to explain very briefly about

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how that stuff with Khemri goes? That's the Nagash

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section for the time being. He gathers his armies,

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sneaks his way into Khemri by somehow hiding

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within a traitor lich's body. Nagash does. Don't

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question it, because I don't understand it. I

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don't know how he fit, but he did. So then when

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that Lich gets killed, Nagash bursts out and

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just starts wreaking havoc on Khemri. Kills Cetra.

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He comes back, and also he's undead anyway, so

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kill is not quite the word, but good enough.

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And subsumes the Tomb Kings into him after his

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victory, or obliterates those who don't bend

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the knee. I think there's potential interest

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here for... or they can set up later, which is

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the fact like I just I find it weird that the

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vampires in any way like trust him or like like

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kind of adhere to his will. They don't. It's

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just that he doesn't give them a choice. It's

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like there was there was one vampire who based

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on his stats was actually like fairly equal to

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Nagash's old stats. And in the end times lore,

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Nagash tells him, hey, you're an undead. You

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belong to me. Serve me. The vampire says no.

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So if I remember correctly from across a continent,

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he just lights the guy on fire. It's not a matter

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of like they want to be there. It's he just set

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the most powerful vampire wizard alive on fire

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from across the planet. I don't think we have

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a choice. That makes more sense. And because

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they're undead and he created necromancy, he

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does have some inherent connection to them all.

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So there's not really anywhere to go. All the

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characters were made of Unreal Engine, but you

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were the guy who did the coding for the original

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Unreal Engine. You could just be like, execute,

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delete. I don't have to trust the engine. I'm

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made of it now. Oh, no. Manfred immediately,

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he was involved because he wanted to usurp Nagash

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right at the ritual. He was immediately being

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himself. To some extent, most of them were going

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to betray them. It's just then Nagash showed

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up, and they were like, oh, I'm not built for

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this. I'm so not built for this. Never mind.

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I will bend the knee. I do like Shalaxy saying,

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Nagash is the master negotiator. It's like, what

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are your negotiations? There will be no negotiations.

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Oh, okay. The Tomb Kings, though, they do put

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up a really good fight in the End Times against

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Nagash's forces. It's basically a stalemate because

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they keep resurrecting the undead, if I'm correct,

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aren't they? They do for a while, but Nagash

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is able to bring in more than just, like, the

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vampire counts are under him, the vampire coast.

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Fun fact, like, half of all vampire coast lore

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is Luthor Harkon in the End Times. He brings

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in everyone but the Tomb Kings to bring the Tomb

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Kings under his rule. I think there's a point

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of contention. There's not a point of contention,

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but when he's dueling Cetra, Cetra's got the

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crown. Is it the crown of Khemri? Or is it an

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amulet of Khemri? He's got a million different

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things. It's one of his magical devices that

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basically negates Nagash's power, so he can't

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finish him off. And his own willpower, which

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by this point, Nagash has eaten the god of the

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dead, and Cetra is still... just squaring up.

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A dude. I think it'd be quite cool if it's a

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thing of keeping the tomb king's identity. Maybe

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some of the tomb kings, like, because obviously

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the tomb kings themselves, like they, the other,

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you know, obviously Cetra's king, you know, Cetra

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rules, you know, Cetra, you know, rules does

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not serve, but he could be betrayed instead.

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And that's like, like some, you know, because

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the gash isn't, he breaks his way into the underworld

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of the tomb kings. Whereas I think it could be

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an interesting thing where he gets betrayed by

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other elements within the Tomb Kings, and therefore

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those loyal subjects, instead of just being subsumed

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into the army, they stand by Nagash, not rather

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completely dominated by Nagash. And that could

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be a way of they keep some coherency, I think.

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Not just, oh, meat for the army, but actually,

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here's... horde army and here's like the elite

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regiment or whatever you know this is the one

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that has all the fancy gear and shit and more

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of the more Krell but overall Nagash is the one

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that's got like Nagash and the next one are kind

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of the least like problematic things because

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they're early on and like I said the Nagash book

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was depending how charitable you are the best

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written or the least poorly written So it's all

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right. The next one, though. Before we get any

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further, should we do a few of the... Has there

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been any donations? Might as well. Eli's disappeared.

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He's just come to drop off the kids. Borgamus

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Rumblesnort. Always like reading that one. Pleasure,

00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:34.279
brother. That's a good one. Do you want to go

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for it? Sure. Been a while. I'm not dead. Just

00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:38.740
kind of tired. Sleep won't fix. I've fucking

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been there, brother. Hope you feel better. Can't

00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:42.819
catch the stream as I have to be up at shit o

00:22:42.819 --> 00:22:44.519
'clock in the morning. The nails are biting.

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Have a good one, all. Much appreciated the 10

00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.900
pounds, Chief. You as well. Jesus, thank you,

00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:56.259
brother. DonkeyManUSA, thanks, man. T -Bug, stream

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late due to how goon into that nagussi. Every

00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.259
time I see Sarah Palmer with donkey as her head,

00:23:02.380 --> 00:23:07.740
it's a good day. Yeah, donkey and shrek is a

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dog. That's the body. Wow. And I've just been

00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:13.819
replaying Halo 4. I'm like, oh, it's dog. Oh,

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I hate this game so much. You're overhating it.

00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.460
It's not a bad game. It's not a bad game, but

00:23:21.460 --> 00:23:23.599
it's a bad Halo game in my opinion. Well, fair

00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:25.599
enough. But unfortunately, the game that followed

00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.400
was a bad game and a bad Halo game. It was like,

00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:31.180
oh, this can't get any worse. And then 343 was

00:23:31.180 --> 00:23:33.839
like, little did you know. We're going to have

00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:37.160
to rebrand our entire name. Oh, okay. That's

00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:42.990
one way to do it. all i wear all will wear a

00:23:42.990 --> 00:23:46.109
green hat in five weeks for five what again end

00:23:46.109 --> 00:23:47.609
times would begin with the inari successfully

00:23:47.609 --> 00:23:50.230
resurrecting the god of the dead but instead

00:23:50.230 --> 00:23:53.269
of your need they summon the gash such as his

00:23:53.269 --> 00:23:56.930
power look wait till gw stock dips long enough

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dips low enough in the future and i'm sure that

00:23:59.089 --> 00:24:01.630
they'll pull some shit like that I'm just waiting

00:24:01.630 --> 00:24:03.829
for Abaddon to try and destroy the Imperium.

00:24:03.890 --> 00:24:06.789
Fails, gets repelled, gets killed. And then there's

00:24:06.789 --> 00:24:08.730
that scene from Avengers with the Infinity Gauntlet,

00:24:08.730 --> 00:24:12.930
and then Nagash goes, Fine. I'll do it myself.

00:24:13.589 --> 00:24:15.630
I mean, look, I'm just saying, the Emperor's

00:24:15.630 --> 00:24:17.869
an undead, and Nagash has power over the undead.

00:24:17.910 --> 00:24:21.690
I'm just saying. Not Shalaxy's wettest gripper.

00:24:21.750 --> 00:24:24.069
Remember, for 16 months, King Dwarf still dies

00:24:24.069 --> 00:24:27.690
in that tunnel. He just trips. You put respect

00:24:27.690 --> 00:24:31.319
on Thorgrim Grudgebearer's name. You give Peppa

00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:36.220
Pig's dad the respect he deserves. Lord Delusion.

00:24:37.259 --> 00:24:40.579
It's $6 .99. It's just for Colin. Thank you,

00:24:40.579 --> 00:24:42.420
Colin. You already spelled my name with too many

00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:45.000
L's, but I appreciate it nonetheless. For sending

00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:46.980
me on an Ideneth Deepkin Army with your do or

00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:49.200
don't video, the answer to the question of whether

00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.400
I like Big Turtle is yes, as it should be. Big

00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.440
Turtle. I don't know its normal name. I don't

00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:59.670
care to know it. Big Turtle. Big Turtle. Orc

00:24:59.670 --> 00:25:02.829
with bow? Master chaff? Is Pelinal Whitestrike?

00:25:02.890 --> 00:25:04.750
I'm not wrong. Well, thank you for the two books,

00:25:04.890 --> 00:25:09.369
but I'm afraid that that is in fact wrong. One

00:25:09.369 --> 00:25:13.349
of those is a child super soldier. The other

00:25:13.349 --> 00:25:16.309
is a time -traveling cyborg who retconned countries

00:25:16.309 --> 00:25:18.750
after his boyfriend got killed. Yeah, I think

00:25:18.750 --> 00:25:23.170
that is a different side. So true to that, though,

00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:26.549
Hal. Correct. All Altmer. Some Isles should be

00:25:26.549 --> 00:25:28.670
obliterated. No, Altmer. Don't need to specify

00:25:28.670 --> 00:25:32.049
which. All of them. I mean, particularly them.

00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:34.210
Throw the rest of the Dunmer into Red Mountain.

00:25:34.410 --> 00:25:38.130
Turn the... Obliterate all stealth archer wood

00:25:38.130 --> 00:25:40.670
elves. Listen, if you don't throw a liver punch

00:25:40.670 --> 00:25:43.150
into every Thalmor agent you see immediately

00:25:43.150 --> 00:25:46.349
roaming across Skyrim, are you even a human?

00:25:47.049 --> 00:25:49.029
that outpost that's linked to the main story

00:25:49.029 --> 00:25:51.289
and you try to get in and there's like it's basically

00:25:51.289 --> 00:25:53.509
impossible because all the developers realize

00:25:53.509 --> 00:25:55.970
like yeah it's like they they knew if you played

00:25:55.970 --> 00:25:58.190
one playthrough you'd be gunning for the falmor

00:25:58.190 --> 00:26:00.430
straight away no no no no no no we gotta put

00:26:00.430 --> 00:26:02.170
invisible walls that are you're not letting me

00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:04.470
have any fun do you know it's a cool thing if

00:26:04.470 --> 00:26:07.450
you put thalmor robes on as a high elf you can

00:26:07.450 --> 00:26:13.400
yeah you can walk through it yeah i don't know

00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:15.160
why would you play the high elf because i'm not

00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.920
a dirty high elf yeah no i'm not disgusting i've

00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:20.119
never known that i know from a real supremacist

00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:21.859
and then after they're all dead with the bretons

00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:23.920
are next because elfish blood is in their veins

00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.619
and that can't be allowed no no no no good magic

00:26:26.619 --> 00:26:30.039
resistance no kill more literate every last trace

00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.019
of you think that you think the dweller disappeared

00:26:32.019 --> 00:26:39.349
because of uh for some magic Every 12 -year -old

00:26:39.349 --> 00:26:43.009
child must be crucified. Filthy elven creatures.

00:26:44.670 --> 00:26:47.990
Lord Delusion for $6 .99 Canadian. Thanks, man.

00:26:48.309 --> 00:26:50.589
A friend really tried to convince me the End

00:26:50.589 --> 00:26:52.690
Times was well -written and seemed to generally

00:26:52.690 --> 00:26:56.190
like the plot lines. Friend, wow. Especially

00:26:56.190 --> 00:27:00.410
the elves. Any comment? I think I've said it.

00:27:00.529 --> 00:27:04.259
I think your friend needs to blow up. He must

00:27:04.259 --> 00:27:08.819
like dark elves, I guess. Colin's answer was

00:27:08.819 --> 00:27:15.799
re -education camp. Wow. Wow. Stark response.

00:27:16.339 --> 00:27:18.759
Oh, there's an on. Plane landed. First notification,

00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.000
law crimes. I hope you had a good trip. Nice,

00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:27.980
man. Danceful prodigy. What's the donation goal

00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:30.660
to have one of you tattoo your name number one

00:27:30.660 --> 00:27:33.900
on your forehead? Doesn't matter who. I don't

00:27:33.900 --> 00:27:36.160
know of any amount of money could get me to do

00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:40.180
that. I mean, I've got some already. What you

00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:43.019
don't know is that I actually have that same

00:27:43.019 --> 00:27:47.519
phrase, but it's not on my forehead. I'll leave

00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.240
it at that. It's the taint. We had to spoil it,

00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:52.720
Hal. I know you've seen it, but that doesn't

00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.880
give you a right to ruin the joke. Run the zipper.

00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:02.369
Ryan Von Eger for AJ? For two bucks. Thanks,

00:28:02.450 --> 00:28:05.769
man. Fae Enchantress being made a human randomly.

00:28:07.369 --> 00:28:12.170
Unsmiley face. That's not even the biggest retcon

00:28:12.170 --> 00:28:16.390
with the Lady of the Lake, so. Still sucks, though.

00:28:16.809 --> 00:28:20.750
And he says another one by Tomonomonom. 27 for

00:28:20.750 --> 00:28:22.829
two bucks. It says Big Turtle mentioned Turtle

00:28:22.829 --> 00:28:27.390
Turtle Turtle. And the last one for now from

00:28:27.390 --> 00:28:31.730
Lord Peaf. Elder Scrolls episode when? That's

00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:35.289
a good question. Who might save it? Me and the

00:28:35.289 --> 00:28:40.230
boys need to really... I have a lot of useless

00:28:40.230 --> 00:28:44.210
Skyrim knowledge. Can Iden F. Deepkin make an

00:28:44.210 --> 00:28:47.670
alternative to the Lusty Argonian Maid discuss?

00:28:48.829 --> 00:28:51.549
You know, Elder Scrolls episode when Elder Scrolls

00:28:51.549 --> 00:28:53.950
6 has actually got a teaser trailer that's not

00:28:53.950 --> 00:28:58.430
two seconds long. Mountains. Question. Is GTA

00:28:58.430 --> 00:29:01.769
6 or Elder Scrolls 6 going to be first? Bro,

00:29:01.809 --> 00:29:03.690
I'm going to be a fucking... GTA 6. I'm going

00:29:03.690 --> 00:29:06.670
to be a dad by the time this all comes out. I'm

00:29:06.670 --> 00:29:09.130
going to be fucking in the ground by the time

00:29:09.130 --> 00:29:13.089
Elder Scrolls 6 comes out. The thing is, Bethesda

00:29:13.089 --> 00:29:14.710
are sneaky. They're always like, oh, by the way,

00:29:14.789 --> 00:29:18.250
I'm Todd Howes. Hi there. 16 times the detail.

00:29:18.390 --> 00:29:20.769
Eli's about to be giving his camera devious back

00:29:20.769 --> 00:29:26.680
shots. Last time, that was crazy. Yeah, that

00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.460
arms up and everything. Eli, this one's for you.

00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:34.720
It's been a long time since we got an egg, Eli.

00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.740
It's true. Eli, how are the egg prices in Japan?

00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.740
They're fine. I kind of looked. They're okay.

00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.680
It has been too long since we've egged. Can you

00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.019
hear me all right? I moved away from my mic.

00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:51.960
Check out my office. Never mind, this is stuck.

00:29:54.059 --> 00:29:59.359
Wow. The washing machine. Did I really know what

00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.559
half the settings do on washing machines I can

00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:06.859
read? Yes. This is a washing machine. I've heard

00:30:06.859 --> 00:30:10.339
those things kind of suck. They do kind of suck.

00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:17.329
It takes like three hours. Nice. All right, back

00:30:17.329 --> 00:30:21.190
to the end times. Yes, so the next topic is the

00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:26.009
Auric Bastion. This is the wall, right? Yeah,

00:30:26.049 --> 00:30:27.809
this is the wall, and this is still kind of happening

00:30:27.809 --> 00:30:32.710
during the Nagash book. So the TLDR of that is

00:30:32.710 --> 00:30:35.549
that the Empire decided, well, what if we just

00:30:35.549 --> 00:30:38.089
keep all of our problems outside of the Empire?

00:30:38.210 --> 00:30:40.750
Which, fair is fair, if you can just pull that

00:30:40.750 --> 00:30:44.730
off, valid. So they started with a smaller one.

00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.579
uh around sylvania just a big old magical wall

00:30:48.579 --> 00:30:52.400
kept going by the combined efforts of various

00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.500
engineers uh in part but mostly uh the faith

00:30:56.500 --> 00:31:00.799
of the uh like faithful orders of the empire

00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.819
like sigmar especially ulric tal all them as

00:31:04.819 --> 00:31:06.839
well as the efforts of the wizards of the colleges

00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.819
of magic particularly the gold college because

00:31:09.819 --> 00:31:12.720
balthasar gelt was the guy heading this Now,

00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.059
the one in Sylvania was a great, you know, testing

00:31:15.059 --> 00:31:19.119
ground. The one around all of the Empire, a little

00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:20.960
bit bigger, a little bit harder to put that one

00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:25.920
up. So, guilt wasn't quite up to snuff. What

00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.619
he did receive from a vampiric agent of Vlad

00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:32.519
von Karstein, who incidentally, I believe, is

00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.619
all but confirmed to be a vampire lady named

00:31:34.619 --> 00:31:37.259
Genevieve, and then a very, very long name, one

00:31:37.259 --> 00:31:40.170
of Warhammer's older special characters. gave

00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:44.230
Gelt some spicy texts on necromancy. And given

00:31:44.230 --> 00:31:47.250
the circumstances of the end of the world rapidly

00:31:47.250 --> 00:31:49.650
approaching and Archeon the Everchosen coming

00:31:49.650 --> 00:31:51.869
on down, those are always terribly destructive.

00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:55.069
Balthasar Gelt felt that the ends justified the

00:31:55.069 --> 00:31:58.569
means, began studying necromancy, and raised

00:31:58.569 --> 00:32:01.289
the Auric Bastion around the Empire. It held

00:32:01.289 --> 00:32:03.829
for a while until Gelt's necromancy was revealed,

00:32:03.910 --> 00:32:06.410
when the Changeling basically tricked him into

00:32:06.410 --> 00:32:09.339
revealing... He was a necromancer, as well as

00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:13.000
almost killing Karl Franz and Sigma Reborn. Gelt

00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.440
was not looking very good at this point. It was

00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.579
not a good look for Mr. Supreme. But could you

00:32:18.579 --> 00:32:20.099
tell? Because he always wears that mask. Could

00:32:20.099 --> 00:32:23.619
you tell if he was like... He probably wasn't

00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:26.000
very happy. When you start throwing up zombies

00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.220
ad hoc, it's not a good look. Well, Gelt is just

00:32:29.220 --> 00:32:32.539
like, how are you feeling? I am... Not Supreme

00:32:32.539 --> 00:32:36.930
right now. The eyebrows and the mask sag. And

00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:38.970
so with that, the Orc Bastion came crumbling

00:32:38.970 --> 00:32:44.210
down because the various orders started withdrawing

00:32:44.210 --> 00:32:46.549
their support upon the revelation that necromancy

00:32:46.549 --> 00:32:49.309
was at least in part holding it up. And the way

00:32:49.309 --> 00:32:53.549
was paved for Archeon to enter the Empire. I

00:32:53.549 --> 00:32:57.869
really don't enjoy this plotline of like, oh,

00:32:58.109 --> 00:33:03.250
Balthazar Gelt must, like him doing the necromancy

00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:06.700
one. I didn't feel like it was... It is a bit

00:33:06.700 --> 00:33:09.019
goofy because it feels like it was added in as

00:33:09.019 --> 00:33:12.799
like, oh, the wall has to fall somehow. Yeah.

00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:16.920
And I'm much more of the opinion like it would

00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.759
have been better if, say like, you know, when

00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.380
Kislev fell. So Kislev gets attacked first, as

00:33:22.380 --> 00:33:25.539
they always do. Such is their role. Such is their

00:33:25.539 --> 00:33:27.660
role. I think it'd be cool if like some of the

00:33:27.660 --> 00:33:31.079
survivors of Kislev, like they flee. into the

00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.759
Empire and they help resurrect, well, they help,

00:33:33.779 --> 00:33:37.039
sorry, erect the massive Auric Bastion. Pardon?

00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.319
But my Auric Bastion being resurrected. Erect?

00:33:42.619 --> 00:33:47.039
Erecting, sorry. Resurrecting is like... Al is

00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.500
erect. I'm much more of the opinion like it's

00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:53.579
cooler if Archeon did something where he had

00:33:53.579 --> 00:33:57.460
to develop a way to actually break down... entrances

00:33:57.460 --> 00:34:00.279
like into like it turns into kind of like a magical

00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.059
siege in some way i think that's much more interesting

00:34:04.059 --> 00:34:08.000
rather than there's like some like oh we had

00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.980
to find a way to make the walk you know oh no

00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:13.360
we made this impenetrable wall that will stop

00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.000
the end times psych guys you're not allowed to

00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.159
have that you know i'd rather like they find

00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.900
a way around breaking through it rather than

00:34:20.900 --> 00:34:24.380
it falls through come kind of like we're shocked

00:34:24.380 --> 00:34:26.809
by the way like I'm pretty sure a lot of them

00:34:26.809 --> 00:34:28.730
are like, you know what I mean? Like if he has

00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:30.769
a massive wall and it's like, it was made by

00:34:30.769 --> 00:34:32.969
bad methods. And it's like, there's literally

00:34:32.969 --> 00:34:35.130
people who are like, like, you know what I mean?

00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:38.250
It's the empire of man. They're not used to doing

00:34:38.250 --> 00:34:41.170
a few distasteful things. So I think I'm more

00:34:41.170 --> 00:34:44.949
of the opinion, like change it into, like it

00:34:44.949 --> 00:34:46.409
gives Archeon something to do as well, a bit

00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:48.969
more, a bit more of like he finds like, because

00:34:48.969 --> 00:34:51.050
a lot of the time we don't get to see that Archeon

00:34:51.050 --> 00:34:53.690
is also a brilliant strategist as well. So therefore

00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:56.150
we maybe can find a way to actually turn into

00:34:56.150 --> 00:34:58.389
a proper layered siege, where they break into

00:34:58.389 --> 00:35:02.250
each empire province slowly and slowly, so they're

00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:04.369
creeping more towards Aldorff rather than, hey

00:35:04.369 --> 00:35:07.389
guys, we gave up on the wall, psych, let's just

00:35:07.389 --> 00:35:11.869
let our defenses down. Or get the Skaven's help

00:35:11.869 --> 00:35:16.949
to go under the wall, and then... Or right there,

00:35:16.989 --> 00:35:19.989
they're right there. It's not like they don't

00:35:19.989 --> 00:35:24.539
do that all of the time. We could have a, speaking

00:35:24.539 --> 00:35:27.059
of someone who's with Archeon at the time, isn't

00:35:27.059 --> 00:35:30.840
it? Thanquil, I believe. So that does come about

00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:33.659
later, is the one word. Like Thanquil's book

00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:36.679
is actually, I believe, the second to last. Also,

00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:41.280
Thanquil is barely in his own book. Well, that

00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.139
could be a way for him to, that could be his

00:35:43.139 --> 00:35:45.679
whole thing. Doing things, yeah. Yeah, he'd actually

00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.139
be doing something. Is there anything, yeah.

00:35:49.070 --> 00:35:50.829
Any other thoughts you had for improving it,

00:35:50.849 --> 00:35:53.010
Colin? I kind of agree, especially because if

00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:56.650
we're going to have the wall, it could be more

00:35:56.650 --> 00:35:59.510
proactive on Chaos' part to actually destroy

00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:02.789
it, as opposed to the Changeling just does a

00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:05.369
funny Balthasar Gelt looks stupid, and then the

00:36:05.369 --> 00:36:11.809
wall just snaps. It's gone. I feel like you could

00:36:11.809 --> 00:36:14.690
do some really creative things with magic as

00:36:14.690 --> 00:36:17.110
well. Rather than just let's have a big weapon

00:36:17.110 --> 00:36:19.230
that blows up the wall, you could do some weird

00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.550
stuff like, oh, it messes with the cement between

00:36:22.550 --> 00:36:25.389
the bricks, which loosens them, or they use something

00:36:25.389 --> 00:36:28.989
that like... They're kind of... There was a little

00:36:28.989 --> 00:36:30.949
bit in one of the Godric and Felix novels. It's

00:36:30.949 --> 00:36:33.150
actually Acold Hellbreast, like the Tzeentian

00:36:33.150 --> 00:36:37.130
life wizard. He finds a crack in the wall, so

00:36:37.130 --> 00:36:39.429
he basically makes, I think, like flowers bloom

00:36:39.429 --> 00:36:41.829
so intensely through it that they rip it apart.

00:36:42.869 --> 00:36:46.570
Which, that was pretty cool. And then Snorri

00:36:46.570 --> 00:36:49.010
Nosebiter plants a car bomb under his feet and

00:36:49.010 --> 00:36:56.190
he blows up. Regular rats can bite through brickwork

00:36:56.190 --> 00:36:59.010
and metal. So I could imagine there'd be, like

00:36:59.010 --> 00:37:01.929
you were saying, Skaven. You just have a massive

00:37:01.929 --> 00:37:04.690
swarm of them. And at first, all the people are

00:37:04.690 --> 00:37:06.710
like, why are they not attacking to try and scale

00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:09.329
the wall? And they're like, oh, they're making

00:37:09.329 --> 00:37:13.539
a... heat shield for some guys below them to

00:37:13.539 --> 00:37:16.199
nibble through like the wall itself to make a

00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.000
breach which then they could plant an explosive

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.460
and then they could definitely a big like you

00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:21.860
could do some fun stuff instead of just like

00:37:21.860 --> 00:37:25.219
helms deep yeah like helms deep but like instead

00:37:25.219 --> 00:37:28.460
of one guy with a torch it's like a million rats

00:37:28.460 --> 00:37:30.980
trying to cover bigger rats we're just going

00:37:32.190 --> 00:37:34.429
Try and shoot through it. They have plenty of

00:37:34.429 --> 00:37:36.190
creative monstrosities. They could do something

00:37:36.190 --> 00:37:37.869
with it. Also, I think someone mentioned that

00:37:37.869 --> 00:37:40.110
Kolek Sun Eater could also do it. He's the size

00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:43.469
of a mountain. Although, if I remember correctly,

00:37:43.670 --> 00:37:46.949
a little bit before the end times, he was not

00:37:46.949 --> 00:37:53.980
killed, but he was... Wait, was he killed? I

00:37:53.980 --> 00:37:56.400
think he kills someone else in the end times,

00:37:56.500 --> 00:38:00.039
doesn't he? No, but I think it was him. He gets

00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:03.639
struck with the horrible fate known as antagonist

00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:08.159
in the Gottric and Felix novel. Does Cetra do

00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.199
something to him? That's why I can't remember

00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.019
if Cetra kills him or Cetra kills his dad. My

00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:16.380
only knowledge of this character is that the

00:38:16.380 --> 00:38:18.500
spiffing Brit did a video where he basically

00:38:18.500 --> 00:38:21.260
just kind of like... min -maxed him to death.

00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:24.539
Cetra did kill Kolek, yeah. But Kolek is just

00:38:24.539 --> 00:38:26.500
like, I'm the best character in Total War, according

00:38:26.500 --> 00:38:28.500
to the spiffing bricks. He's just like, we're

00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:31.480
just going to add more percentages. I was like,

00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.880
wow. That's actually a really good impression.

00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.739
Hello there, you silly sausage. It's me, the

00:38:37.739 --> 00:38:40.380
spiffing brick. Let's have a lovely cup of Yorkshire

00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:49.010
tea. That's how he talks. Yes. Speaking of that

00:38:49.010 --> 00:38:51.449
was something very cool though which is next

00:38:51.449 --> 00:38:55.510
on the list is the destruction of nagaroth which

00:38:55.510 --> 00:38:58.889
uh colin would you i poke the funny again please

00:38:58.889 --> 00:39:02.530
uh please tell us well i see look this is before

00:39:02.530 --> 00:39:04.789
eli is going to open his mouth because this isn't

00:39:04.789 --> 00:39:08.250
a phoenix king debate yet this was uh malekith

00:39:08.250 --> 00:39:11.469
decided in his infinite wisdom that the best

00:39:11.469 --> 00:39:15.030
way to take ulthuan was to take nagaroth and

00:39:15.030 --> 00:39:19.360
push it somewhere else basically So a massive,

00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.699
what Kord was doing early in the end times was

00:39:21.699 --> 00:39:26.179
just assaulting the Dark Elf lands nonstop. And

00:39:26.179 --> 00:39:29.659
Malekith decided that, yeah, now's a good time

00:39:29.659 --> 00:39:31.960
to take Ulthuan. So he took every single Dark

00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.699
Elf and invaded Ulthuan. Except for his mother,

00:39:35.739 --> 00:39:37.699
who he left in her tower because she was going

00:39:37.699 --> 00:39:41.480
a little insane. Every Dark Elf but Meranthe.

00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:43.960
And a couple that he killed for various reasons.

00:39:44.019 --> 00:39:46.800
He's Malekith, he does that. I know there's like

00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.280
there's weird parts in the lore where like it

00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.780
might have been older lore where it's like oh

00:39:51.780 --> 00:39:54.119
she like was corrupted by Slaanesh or whatever

00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.360
but then they changed it to like their own well

00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.079
she was a Slaanesh worshipper then she worshipped

00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:03.719
like the dark elf version of Slaanesh as they

00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:05.719
moved away from elves worshipping Slaanesh at

00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:07.760
all which is a little silly kind of a shame they

00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.400
turned him into Eldar I think she should be responsible

00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:16.079
for the fall of nagarond slash nagaroth you could

00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.760
make it so yeah maybe like she does something

00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.179
and that's what causes malekith to jump ship

00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:24.119
because as it reads now the vibe i get is he's

00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.460
like well i don't need this country anymore time

00:40:26.460 --> 00:40:30.780
to go to one i also think as i go so good it's

00:40:30.780 --> 00:40:33.199
like i look man you're putting a lot of faith

00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.420
in being able to do something that for the last

00:40:35.420 --> 00:40:38.239
10 000 years you failed at every single time

00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.960
you were putting a whole lot of eggs in this

00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:45.010
basket right now I like the idea of it. There's

00:40:45.010 --> 00:40:49.769
some kind of event thing. She's like, she embraces

00:40:49.769 --> 00:40:54.030
Slaanesh's corruption. And then the, because

00:40:54.030 --> 00:40:56.309
it would explain in a way, like obviously armies

00:40:56.309 --> 00:40:59.190
are invading everywhere. They're invading Cathay,

00:40:59.269 --> 00:41:01.690
which obviously gets ignored, you know, a bit.

00:41:01.949 --> 00:41:04.409
I think Zeke should be more involved in that

00:41:04.409 --> 00:41:07.329
kind of stuff, but it could be explained like

00:41:07.329 --> 00:41:09.530
she's the one who responds because she's kind

00:41:09.530 --> 00:41:13.019
of responsible for the whole. dark elf, you know,

00:41:13.019 --> 00:41:17.699
high elf split anyway. Yeah, so I think it'd

00:41:17.699 --> 00:41:19.699
be quite funny if, like, in a way, she does a

00:41:19.699 --> 00:41:22.519
sort of similar thing where, you know, she spread

00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.760
chaos, you know, she spread cults, you know,

00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:27.599
before, and she does the same thing again, and

00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.199
it ends up being, like, her own arrogance is,

00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:31.900
like, she's some kind of champion, or, like,

00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.380
she seeks... She seeks, like, immortal glory,

00:41:35.579 --> 00:41:38.159
you know, immortality through demonhood or whatever,

00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.139
and Slaanesh just doesn't grant it and betrays

00:41:40.139 --> 00:41:46.280
her. and then she is sent to um oath one to chase

00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.900
uh her son malekith to eventually turn to try

00:41:50.900 --> 00:41:54.280
and turn him to chaos uh but i'll save my next

00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:56.940
part for that later but my point is like she

00:41:56.940 --> 00:41:59.159
like in her own arrogance she thinks she's gonna

00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.099
be rewarded and she doesn't get it so i think

00:42:02.099 --> 00:42:03.679
that could be the result of their destruction

00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.599
and then maybe maybe quite cool as well like

00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.610
if there's a human uprising like all the slaves

00:42:09.610 --> 00:42:11.889
like this is a random uprising that gets poorly

00:42:11.889 --> 00:42:14.150
timed with a chaos invasion yeah that's what

00:42:14.150 --> 00:42:16.969
ends up making it fail that that could be cool

00:42:16.969 --> 00:42:19.750
because again as it reads it is just malik is

00:42:19.750 --> 00:42:24.369
like okay we're all leaving now yeah yeah it

00:42:24.369 --> 00:42:26.190
needs to be untenable that's the whole point

00:42:26.190 --> 00:42:28.949
like they can handle the slave uproar of up rising

00:42:28.949 --> 00:42:31.909
no problem chaos incursion they can handle that

00:42:31.909 --> 00:42:36.190
same time no a little little rough yeah yeah

00:42:36.190 --> 00:42:38.429
but yeah because otherwise it is just time to

00:42:38.429 --> 00:42:40.789
pack up shop and abandon this country what we

00:42:40.789 --> 00:42:45.090
have ruled for 10 000 years speaking of uh the

00:42:45.090 --> 00:42:48.210
uh the venom of this debate though the sinking

00:42:48.210 --> 00:42:51.889
of old one and the merging of the elven races

00:42:51.889 --> 00:42:58.010
not my phoenix king no these aren't mer these

00:42:58.010 --> 00:43:01.469
are cool elves and want to have a quick go at

00:43:01.469 --> 00:43:03.969
explaining just the the brief notes of that i

00:43:03.969 --> 00:43:05.909
want eli you want to you want to start with this

00:43:05.909 --> 00:43:09.030
one and then malachite warned and he was actually

00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:12.110
the phoenix king all along the end pretty much

00:43:12.110 --> 00:43:19.059
uh so techless is a conniving little and helped

00:43:19.059 --> 00:43:22.059
put Malekith on the Phoenix throne by getting

00:43:22.059 --> 00:43:24.599
the previous leader, Phoenix King Finnebar, killed.

00:43:24.980 --> 00:43:27.840
And it is revealed that the whole time in the

00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:32.440
End Times, we learned that the whole time, Malekith

00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:34.480
was always the rightful Phoenix King. He just

00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.039
needed to mature a little bit. And if he stayed

00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.239
in the fire of Assyrian way back when, just a

00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.380
little bit longer, he probably wouldn't have

00:43:41.380 --> 00:43:44.119
been, you know, Kentucky Fried Elf. but he would

00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.079
have been instead the rightful Phoenix King.

00:43:46.219 --> 00:43:48.739
And every Phoenix King ever since then was actually

00:43:48.739 --> 00:43:51.599
using magical wards to keep Assyrian from burning

00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.780
them because they were all pretenders, which

00:43:54.780 --> 00:43:59.760
I will note is awful. Is it retconned as well?

00:43:59.900 --> 00:44:03.400
Yes, it is. Them all being given wards was never

00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.579
a thing prior to the end times. Age of Sigmar

00:44:05.579 --> 00:44:08.869
retcons it. Because when Marathi's ascending

00:44:08.869 --> 00:44:11.289
to godhood, she steals bits of Viserion's power

00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:14.289
from the Phoenix Kings in Slaanesh. Lore so bad

00:44:14.289 --> 00:44:16.949
that the next setting goes back to retcon it.

00:44:17.670 --> 00:44:21.269
It's a fake. Regardless of whether you think

00:44:21.269 --> 00:44:23.409
Malekith should be on top or not, like, you know,

00:44:23.409 --> 00:44:28.690
some people here. Tyrion takes the sword of Cain,

00:44:28.789 --> 00:44:32.030
doesn't he? Yeah, and then in the meantime, Tyrion's

00:44:32.030 --> 00:44:34.070
like, well, my brother kind of got my daughter

00:44:34.070 --> 00:44:36.630
killed. My brother got... the Phoenix King, who

00:44:36.630 --> 00:44:40.030
was still one of my best friends, killed. He's

00:44:40.030 --> 00:44:44.630
now put our arch enemy on top of, you know, like,

00:44:44.690 --> 00:44:47.670
Ulthuan's hierarchy. I've got nothing left to

00:44:47.670 --> 00:44:50.449
lose. So he draws the Sword of Cain from the

00:44:50.449 --> 00:44:55.610
Shrine of Cain in Nagareth and just goes mad.

00:44:55.789 --> 00:44:58.309
And elves start picking sides between those loyal

00:44:58.309 --> 00:45:01.269
to Malekith, for one reason or another, which

00:45:01.269 --> 00:45:03.809
includes high and dark elves, and those loyal

00:45:03.809 --> 00:45:06.369
to Tyrion. which for a variety of reasons also

00:45:06.369 --> 00:45:09.909
includes high and dark elves. And Ulthuan, it

00:45:09.909 --> 00:45:12.829
goes from like basically the only nice place

00:45:12.829 --> 00:45:16.750
in all of Warhammer fantasy consistently to World

00:45:16.750 --> 00:45:21.469
War Elf. And in the meantime, Teclis is doing

00:45:21.469 --> 00:45:23.829
a ritual with the winds of magic to bind each

00:45:23.829 --> 00:45:26.210
of them to a single person, all of which were

00:45:26.210 --> 00:45:29.860
originally going to be elves. But Marathi intervenes

00:45:29.860 --> 00:45:32.860
in that and starts sabotaging the ritual. Slaanesh

00:45:32.860 --> 00:45:35.079
herself begins showing up through the vortex.

00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:39.940
And she's stopped after Kalidor Dragontamer,

00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.539
the guy who made the vortex, basically just full

00:45:42.539 --> 00:45:46.760
Nelsons her down into Slaanesh. But the ritual

00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:48.699
goes wrong. About the only thing that goes right

00:45:48.699 --> 00:45:53.460
was his staff got the Wind of Light. Alariel

00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:56.539
got the Lore of Life. And because the Vortex

00:45:56.539 --> 00:45:59.300
was undone, all of the other Winds of Magic spirit

00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:02.159
off to go to other people, and Ulthuan sinks

00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.219
because the Vortex was what was keeping it up.

00:46:04.300 --> 00:46:07.039
And then the Winds of Magic said, fuck this shit,

00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.300
I'm out. I'm going somewhere else. And then it

00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:13.119
releases Sigmar's soul. It does release Sigmar

00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:17.460
from the Vortex, which is itself kind of a retcon,

00:46:17.539 --> 00:46:20.360
but also not quite, because in a lot of older

00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.980
fantasy stuff, even Sigmar actually being a god

00:46:22.980 --> 00:46:28.190
was an open -ended question sometimes. So the

00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:35.030
end result is Ulthuan sinks. Malekith does defeat

00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:37.809
Tyrion, but Teclis ends up reviving him later

00:46:37.809 --> 00:46:41.849
on. And all of the elves then go to Athel Loren.

00:46:42.070 --> 00:46:46.349
They merge into just elves. None of them are

00:46:46.349 --> 00:46:51.170
terribly happy about this, but Ulthuan's gone.

00:46:51.829 --> 00:46:56.820
Naggarond is... smoking husk. So they're all

00:46:56.820 --> 00:46:59.900
squatting in Athel Loren. Does anyone have any

00:46:59.900 --> 00:47:02.159
ideas? Because I've got a few, but I'll let everyone,

00:47:02.380 --> 00:47:05.420
if they've got any ideas of what really needs

00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:08.139
fixing in that lore, what stands out to you guys?

00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:15.159
I mean, all of it just sucks. I think it's clear

00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.059
that Malekith should have never been a Phoenix

00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:21.010
Lord because he's clearly a poopy bum bum. It's

00:47:21.010 --> 00:47:23.170
the same thing. No! It's Eldar. It's the same

00:47:23.170 --> 00:47:27.489
thing. No! If Malachy just won the war in Ulthuan

00:47:27.489 --> 00:47:29.889
and chased all the good elves out and then they

00:47:29.889 --> 00:47:33.510
went to Althalore and while Malachy squats in

00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:36.289
Ulthuan and then you don't have to sink the entire

00:47:36.289 --> 00:47:40.730
place and destroy everything and it's all stupid.

00:47:40.969 --> 00:47:47.000
I don't know. Also, I... Just flat out remove.

00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:49.159
Do what Age of Sigmar ended up doing, honestly.

00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.519
That saved it a little bit, where just make it

00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.380
so if you want him to be put in place by, like,

00:47:55.380 --> 00:47:57.780
Teclis and, like, the goddess Lilby as, like,

00:47:57.780 --> 00:48:00.420
you know, machinations and scheming, make it

00:48:00.420 --> 00:48:03.039
so, like, he was the best of a bad option. He's

00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.119
the most, like, authoritarian, powerful elf who

00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.039
can, through force or just previous loyalties,

00:48:09.059 --> 00:48:12.139
bind elves together. Don't make it so the whole

00:48:12.139 --> 00:48:15.239
time he actually was, like, secretly chosen and

00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.280
everyone else was actually bad like you thought

00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.179
why did you just make that up there was no reason

00:48:20.179 --> 00:48:23.199
for that to be the case he has the power to be

00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.380
the phoenix king now yeah he didn't have it before

00:48:25.380 --> 00:48:31.960
building on that i have an idea which is uh the

00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.460
uh marathi you know fully fending for herself

00:48:36.460 --> 00:48:39.539
at this point a lot of events kind of go similarly

00:48:39.539 --> 00:48:43.880
except When she fails, she is completely devoured

00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.760
by Slaanesh. My brain says she should die here.

00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:51.820
And I believe Malika should be involved in killing

00:48:51.820 --> 00:48:55.679
her. And some of the events I would say continue,

00:48:55.900 --> 00:49:00.039
which was Teclis does draw this sword of Cain.

00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:04.039
And I would like it if they both end up at the

00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.960
point where... Is it the central island area

00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.219
where they have the Phoenix Flame? Is it, Colin?

00:49:10.059 --> 00:49:13.739
Not quite, no. The very center is the Vortex.

00:49:14.059 --> 00:49:17.619
It's the Shrine of Asury, and I think it's closer

00:49:17.619 --> 00:49:20.880
to the southern end. What's the hole in a donut

00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:25.579
called? What? Donut hole. They're like donuts.

00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:27.380
There's like a hole in the middle. The donut

00:49:27.380 --> 00:49:31.599
hole? That's what it's called for the elves,

00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:33.699
then. It's the donut hole. Do you know what would

00:49:33.699 --> 00:49:37.019
be really cool, though, is that the idea is,

00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:42.400
like, the Malekiths and Tirion's fight ends up

00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.800
clashing near the flame. And it could be a thing

00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.480
of, like you said, like, Malekith becomes the

00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:54.059
option when Asurion sees that essentially...

00:49:54.059 --> 00:49:58.159
Sorry. Yeah, basically, the two of them end up

00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.820
in the flames once again. They're both dying.

00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:04.630
And... or based or essentially it could be like

00:50:04.630 --> 00:50:08.369
Tyrion pushes him back into the flames to kill

00:50:08.369 --> 00:50:14.489
him. And because it's either let Cain, you know,

00:50:14.489 --> 00:50:18.190
mop up all the Elven survivors or Assyrian, Assyrian

00:50:18.190 --> 00:50:21.530
chooses Malekith as like, well, I can't go with

00:50:21.530 --> 00:50:24.650
the other guy. You're my only option. And in

00:50:24.650 --> 00:50:28.380
some way, Malekith's like. obviously betraying

00:50:28.380 --> 00:50:30.139
his mother and like saying i'm not gonna sign

00:50:30.139 --> 00:50:33.099
up with chaos you know i'm not a great guy but

00:50:33.099 --> 00:50:35.960
i'll protect elven kind or whatever that is i'm

00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:40.280
a villain yeah not a monster yeah he he's he's

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.039
the man of the the moment sort of thing and this

00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.360
ends up killing i think is it elita now ends

00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.139
up shooting one of them i think that's a really

00:50:50.139 --> 00:50:52.400
weird cameo in the end time part where it's like

00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.639
i can kill you guys or something you know you

00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.489
know i sorry like Make that guy go somewhere

00:50:57.489 --> 00:51:01.070
else. Leave it to the drama to unfold between

00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:03.250
these two. And I think it's a thing where it

00:51:03.250 --> 00:51:07.809
becomes an uneasy alliance of where the sword

00:51:07.809 --> 00:51:10.969
of Cain is almost completely depowered after

00:51:10.969 --> 00:51:15.750
this, but Malekith wields it as a kind of symbol

00:51:15.750 --> 00:51:21.380
of office, no longer bearing the curse. of his

00:51:21.380 --> 00:51:23.019
a bloodline or whatever you know the curse of

00:51:23.019 --> 00:51:25.440
an uh is it not an arian is it an arian because

00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:29.679
it's like because the curse is removed temporarily

00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.559
uh you know because of like basically it's been

00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.400
redeemed you know well quote quote redeemed um

00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:40.420
and then hear me out the like what happened before

00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:43.940
many of the elven cities, like what the Dark

00:51:43.940 --> 00:51:47.539
Elves did, they raise up from the land and they

00:51:47.539 --> 00:51:50.639
float towards the Old World in this mass evacuation

00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:54.340
as Ulthuan starts to sink. Do you think that

00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:56.539
would be a better... You could do some, yeah,

00:51:56.539 --> 00:51:58.760
give them some territory too, instead of like,

00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:03.920
and we're all now in Athel Loren. Treeland. The

00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:07.579
forest that already doesn't like the Wood Elves

00:52:07.579 --> 00:52:11.300
sometimes now has the other ones in it. i think

00:52:11.300 --> 00:52:13.519
the idea of like all the elven so becoming like

00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.679
the like you know the black arcs that still exist

00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.440
they kind of float like this massive armada towards

00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:22.679
the old world to basically try and recuperate

00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:26.340
in some of the old elven places which could create

00:52:26.340 --> 00:52:28.440
some tension with the empire obviously because

00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.500
they like why we live in some of those places

00:52:30.500 --> 00:52:32.840
but um i think that'd be quite a cool way to

00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.280
like some characters just need to die off and

00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.320
like let it die and techless is like well i've

00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.809
made this alliance and Alariel was like, I guess

00:52:40.809 --> 00:52:42.590
I have to be with this guy who just killed my,

00:52:42.750 --> 00:52:47.150
you know, boyfriend, whatever. Maybe we don't

00:52:47.150 --> 00:52:49.610
need Alariel to marry Malekith either. I forgot

00:52:49.610 --> 00:52:52.510
about that one. Maybe we can also not do that.

00:52:52.750 --> 00:52:55.769
We don't need that. It's a political marriage,

00:52:55.849 --> 00:52:57.989
isn't it? It is. It's purely a political marriage.

00:52:58.090 --> 00:53:00.409
She still hates his guts, but it's like, man.

00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.219
Yeah. I think that's a good way of saving it

00:53:04.219 --> 00:53:07.360
so far. It'd be a cool scene if Tyrion pushed

00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.380
him in the fire and then Malekith just walks

00:53:09.380 --> 00:53:13.840
out and Tyrion has to do something. That'd be

00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:19.860
cool. Is he healed from the fire? No. He's still

00:53:19.860 --> 00:53:22.219
crispy bacon. I think it'd be quite cool if he

00:53:22.219 --> 00:53:25.019
emerges from the fire and his black armor almost

00:53:25.019 --> 00:53:28.139
falls off because it's... no longer bound to

00:53:28.139 --> 00:53:30.239
his, you know, broken frame. That'd be kind of

00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.260
cool. And then he turns into Hayden Christensen.

00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:42.719
You brought her here to kill me! Liar! Tyrion

00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.840
would be Anakin. Liar! You turned them against

00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:52.230
me! You're with him! Before we get any further,

00:53:52.369 --> 00:53:55.289
do you have any more donations? We do have a

00:53:55.289 --> 00:53:56.969
few donations. Would you like to read this one

00:53:56.969 --> 00:54:00.309
out? Oh, Conrad's number one stand. That is a

00:54:00.309 --> 00:54:04.889
lady. Five bucks. The only way to make the end

00:54:04.889 --> 00:54:07.789
times good is to have Grease's gold tooth riding

00:54:07.789 --> 00:54:12.190
on his non -plus. And Benny Paul Panache on,

00:54:12.210 --> 00:54:16.400
breaking him into other bands. That would be

00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:21.099
peak. Have it canon where that old Total War

00:54:21.099 --> 00:54:25.599
bug that gave him 500 movement speed is a thing.

00:54:27.340 --> 00:54:29.239
Angry Homunculus. Couldn't they have asked the

00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.179
Dragon Emperor to make a wall? Honestly, just

00:54:31.179 --> 00:54:33.980
have Cathay involved more. Kill Main Burn. Iron

00:54:33.980 --> 00:54:36.619
with it. Sir, you're a little lost on the end

00:54:36.619 --> 00:54:37.960
of that one, but thank you for the five pounds.

00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.699
So as much as I would like more Cathay, the problem

00:54:41.699 --> 00:54:44.719
with that is that... the refresh happened for

00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:48.179
Total War and Old World. They weren't really

00:54:48.179 --> 00:54:52.260
part of things because they weren't really much

00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:55.960
of a thing. That's as a general little side tangent.

00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.059
The overview would be if you can rework it to

00:54:58.059 --> 00:55:00.000
make it less crap, assuming the world's still

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.340
blowing up, involve them more, because all of

00:55:03.340 --> 00:55:06.900
their involvement is... The Chaos Dwarfs take...

00:55:06.900 --> 00:55:10.619
No, Grimgor takes the Great Bastion. Skaven take

00:55:10.619 --> 00:55:14.280
the southern half. The Chaos Dwarfs then take

00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.320
the Great Bastion from Grimgor because he let

00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.139
them, who then kills all the Chaos Dwarfs for

00:55:20.139 --> 00:55:24.280
fun. And the Dragon Emperor supposedly sails

00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.099
off into nowhere, to a realm free from chaos

00:55:27.099 --> 00:55:29.980
with his surviving people. Which, now that we

00:55:29.980 --> 00:55:32.400
know he had a bunch of Primarch dragon children,

00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.480
and also a wife, and also was an actual Dragon

00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.849
Emperor, and that's just his title. Speaking...

00:55:39.849 --> 00:55:41.449
There's so much where it's like that could be

00:55:41.449 --> 00:55:45.730
its own episode. Speaking of China, do you think

00:55:45.730 --> 00:55:47.670
it would be really cool to have a Dynasty Warriors

00:55:47.670 --> 00:55:49.550
game, but with Warhammer Fantasy characters?

00:55:50.969 --> 00:55:55.710
Oh my god, my childhood. It's Gotrick and Felix

00:55:55.710 --> 00:55:58.590
at the Hulau Gate! Did you guys play that game,

00:55:58.670 --> 00:56:02.690
Paul and Eli? Did you play it? Dynasty Warriors.

00:56:03.110 --> 00:56:05.730
I played a little bit, and I played some derivatives

00:56:05.730 --> 00:56:09.000
of it. dignity warriors four empires oh and five

00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:14.179
empires the amount of i learned so much chinese

00:56:14.179 --> 00:56:17.380
history and how to pronounce names with sex as

00:56:17.380 --> 00:56:22.719
jahu dun i love jahu dun oh my god that guy with

00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.000
the one jang liao jang liao is here what happened

00:56:26.659 --> 00:56:30.280
The arrow hitting the eye. The Dynasty Warriors

00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:33.840
3 audio is fantastic. What's the guy who's like

00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:36.139
the rebel guy who's like he's in charge of the

00:56:36.139 --> 00:56:39.000
battle of Hulagate then he rebels and he's like

00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:44.079
I'm gonna give you a taste of my magic. Like

00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.440
the voice acting in that game. Is this the bit

00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.179
where it's like the Yellow Turban Rebellion or

00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:50.800
later? Yeah, the Yellow Turban Rebellion. Yeah,

00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:55.309
it's amazing. I don't remember. Dong Zhuo. Whenever

00:56:55.309 --> 00:56:57.929
you play campaigns, that's more towards the beginning,

00:56:58.090 --> 00:57:00.969
isn't it? Yeah. I spent a whole minute trying

00:57:00.969 --> 00:57:05.650
to play that game. Sorry, tangent. Yeah, Southside

00:57:05.650 --> 00:57:08.670
is ridiculous. Southside, yeah. Our fallen world,

00:57:08.789 --> 00:57:10.550
the Fiverr, thank you. Just finished Slayer,

00:57:10.630 --> 00:57:13.809
thanks for the heartache, Colin. Yeah, man. And

00:57:13.809 --> 00:57:15.590
that book made me think the end times could be

00:57:15.590 --> 00:57:18.730
averted. Felix and Ulrica killed Hellbrass. That

00:57:18.730 --> 00:57:21.889
was just one part of the wall that he broke through.

00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.900
Also, again, I swear that was the Snorri Nosebiter

00:57:25.900 --> 00:57:31.760
car bomb special that got Hellbrass. But they

00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.360
could have, I think even out of universe, like

00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.360
the author said, if order got their shit together

00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:38.980
quicker, chaos would have been defeated. But

00:57:38.980 --> 00:57:41.360
they didn't because the setting needed to go.

00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:48.960
Square brand rip, queek, the very best of Skavenkader.

00:57:49.139 --> 00:57:52.860
He wants to be the very best. Queek is the name

00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:55.960
that he makes when he gets belly slopped by an

00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:01.380
ogre. Dude, she... I'd be queeking on her head

00:58:01.380 --> 00:58:06.059
taker till she Carrick ate Peaks. No, she's queeking

00:58:06.059 --> 00:58:12.980
on my head until I ate Peaks. Yeah. All will

00:58:12.980 --> 00:58:15.360
wear a green head in five weeks with the two...

00:58:16.210 --> 00:58:20.869
Euro. No. Yes. Euros. Colin, how does it feel

00:58:20.869 --> 00:58:23.289
to be 50 % of AOS content? I think that's giving

00:58:23.289 --> 00:58:26.710
me way too much credit. I don't know. I don't

00:58:26.710 --> 00:58:30.630
know. All I'll say is it's definitely the best

00:58:30.630 --> 00:58:35.969
AOS content. Thank you. Jay Townsend. Morning

00:58:35.969 --> 00:58:37.949
from Australia, lads. Good morning. Thank you

00:58:37.949 --> 00:58:40.570
for the tour. It's the snake, man. It's the snake,

00:58:40.630 --> 00:58:49.710
dude. This is a knife. That's a spoon for a national

00:58:49.710 --> 00:58:52.489
treasure. JTownSend again. Thank you for the

00:58:52.489 --> 00:58:55.610
A10. How to fix the end times? Don't let GW fix

00:58:55.610 --> 00:58:57.670
the whole thing so Chaos wins despite taking

00:58:57.670 --> 00:59:04.829
massive Ls from every other faction. Ah, Spooky

00:59:04.829 --> 00:59:07.269
Kabuki. Good to see you, man. For five bucks,

00:59:07.409 --> 00:59:09.889
I want to know what Colin thinks of the new AOS

00:59:09.889 --> 00:59:13.960
end times rumors. a really silly so for those

00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.139
unaware there's rumors from combining all of

00:59:16.139 --> 00:59:18.239
the mortal realms into one realm and it's just

00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:22.239
going to be warhammer fantasy round two but as

00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.260
stupid as i don't i don't i don't want that at

00:59:24.260 --> 00:59:26.579
all i look with the old world we can have two

00:59:26.579 --> 00:59:29.119
cakes now we have two cakes we don't need to

00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:32.190
come smash them together But I would also find

00:59:32.190 --> 00:59:34.590
it really funny if every 10 years they just cycle

00:59:34.590 --> 00:59:36.869
back and forth. Like now they blow up AOS and

00:59:36.869 --> 00:59:39.349
bring back fantasy. And then in 10 years more,

00:59:39.449 --> 00:59:41.710
they blow up fantasy again and it's back to AOS

00:59:41.710 --> 00:59:44.130
and it's just the infinite cycle. And then the

00:59:44.130 --> 00:59:46.730
whole time, the 50 Space Marine releases. Then

00:59:46.730 --> 00:59:49.349
we're going to have alternate timelines. Is the

00:59:49.349 --> 00:59:52.369
Kelvin timeline for fantasy there? Oh, great.

00:59:53.050 --> 01:00:00.460
That worked out great for Star Trek. Not a good

01:00:00.460 --> 01:00:03.920
time. They could so keep the... They finished

01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:06.440
the end times of fantasy and they survived. They

01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.260
could so do that if they wanted to. You can go

01:00:09.260 --> 01:00:11.659
down the Storm of Chaos timeline. They could

01:00:11.659 --> 01:00:15.440
do Mortal Kombat where it's like, ah, I became

01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.400
a god and I recreated everything because now

01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.579
Liu Kang is in Raiden's place and now Raiden

01:00:20.579 --> 01:00:23.179
is not a god anymore. He's just a farmer. Where

01:00:23.179 --> 01:00:27.159
am I now? There's been two timeline resets. Deadly

01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:29.000
Alliance isn't a thing anymore, nor is the Dragon

01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:33.099
King. Apocalypse. I mean, it's been going on

01:00:33.099 --> 01:00:36.340
for like 20... Wait, Sub -Zero is Scorpion and

01:00:36.340 --> 01:00:38.820
Scorpion is Sub -Zero? Okay, wait. So, wait,

01:00:38.860 --> 01:00:41.539
is Noob Saibot still Sub -Zero? Okay, but he's

01:00:41.539 --> 01:00:44.880
now Scorpion... Mortal Kombat, lower episode.

01:00:46.539 --> 01:00:51.380
Confusing as shit. Kuai Liang and Sub -Zero are

01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:53.960
like them. brothers yeah man i like johnny cage

01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:58.460
i like international love like american personifies

01:00:58.460 --> 01:01:00.980
like hey guys i love how we know the newest one

01:01:00.980 --> 01:01:02.900
there's like an indiana jones mission where you

01:01:02.900 --> 01:01:04.960
play as him it's like him on a movie set it's

01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:09.260
quite fun um yeah more combat oh one more snuck

01:01:09.260 --> 01:01:12.199
in from jay townsend for 20 thank you very much

01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:17.460
yeah also friends snake was removed safely from

01:01:17.460 --> 01:01:20.219
the bin by a professional snake catcher almost

01:01:20.750 --> 01:01:23.349
almost bit the snake catcher, however, so apparently

01:01:23.349 --> 01:01:26.590
I'm more effective than a professional at catching

01:01:26.590 --> 01:01:29.710
snakes. You almost bit the snake catcher. I believe

01:01:29.710 --> 01:01:33.050
the snake almost bit the snake catcher. That

01:01:33.050 --> 01:01:34.389
would have been very funny, though, if he's just

01:01:34.389 --> 01:01:37.210
like, hey, mate, I've got the snake. Thank you.

01:01:38.469 --> 01:01:40.710
No, no, no, no. The ice cream truck is here.

01:01:43.449 --> 01:01:46.949
Sirens are very loud here, and they have them

01:01:46.949 --> 01:01:49.230
on all the time whenever they're driving. It's

01:01:49.230 --> 01:01:53.139
not like... In Canada, sometimes the sirens aren't

01:01:53.139 --> 01:01:57.780
on for police. No one's around, but around here,

01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.400
there's always on no matter what time of the

01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:05.619
night. Hey guys, check this out. The next order

01:02:05.619 --> 01:02:09.840
of business is the incarnates gain the winds

01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:14.280
of magic and they are empowered by each element.

01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.800
This one is, so there's eight winds of magic

01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:19.980
in Warhammer fantasy. Teclis, through his little

01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:24.239
funny with the goddess Lilith, bound each of

01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:27.179
them to a person, or in his case, his staff,

01:02:27.340 --> 01:02:32.940
which is a divine gift, so fair enough. And the

01:02:32.940 --> 01:02:35.480
ritual went out of control, part of why Ulthuan

01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.219
sank. So what ended up happening was they all

01:02:38.219 --> 01:02:41.960
just bound to a certain person, like Grimgor

01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:45.420
got the lore of beasts. Thorgrim at first got

01:02:45.420 --> 01:02:48.840
the Lore of Metal. Gelt got it after Thorgrim

01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:53.500
got stabbed. Ungrim got the fire? Ungrim got

01:02:53.500 --> 01:02:57.280
fire. I can't remember if he got it first or

01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.039
if Caradhran got it, and then when Caradhran

01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:04.260
died. Who's Caradhran? He is the head of the

01:03:04.260 --> 01:03:10.079
Phoenix Guard. Oh. They all take a vow of silence,

01:03:10.179 --> 01:03:13.159
and then after Assyrian... died he just started

01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:16.559
talking because the divinely mandated vow of

01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:18.760
silence only lasts as long as the god keeping

01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:22.599
it going is alive to keep it going um but yeah

01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:25.239
so they they basically techless's intention was

01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.840
to basically replace the gods uh in a lot of

01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.219
ways which uh it didn't quite work especially

01:03:32.219 --> 01:03:34.360
because sigmar was the incarnate of the heavens

01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:40.440
so It ends up just being nothing. Like, it's

01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:42.500
a cool idea, and it makes, like, these, you know,

01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:46.340
superpower models. Like, Karl Fran's Ascendant

01:03:46.340 --> 01:03:49.239
is the biggest unga -bunga beatstick, at least

01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:54.260
for a turn. But they do nothing. Like, Karadrin,

01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:58.900
he unleashes the entirety of the Wind of Fire

01:03:58.900 --> 01:04:02.500
into Kabanda. It doesn't kill. Kabanda's mighty

01:04:02.500 --> 01:04:05.170
shalom. Yeah, Cabanda's mighty schlong tanked

01:04:05.170 --> 01:04:10.469
the wind of fire and Radren died. I think it'd

01:04:10.469 --> 01:04:16.510
be quite cool if someone like... Do you think

01:04:16.510 --> 01:04:19.050
every character would be the perfect incarnate,

01:04:19.050 --> 01:04:21.409
or would you have someone else who's... Well,

01:04:21.429 --> 01:04:25.230
part of it was that the ritual going wrong leading

01:04:25.230 --> 01:04:27.989
to some of the incarnates, I do like. Malekith's

01:04:27.989 --> 01:04:30.230
supposed to get fire, but he instead got shadow.

01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:35.380
So I kind of like it messing up like that. But

01:04:35.380 --> 01:04:39.659
also it's like I do more with it because the

01:04:39.659 --> 01:04:41.679
jump ahead a bit, like they could have done something

01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:44.179
with the incarnates becoming crucial, like forming

01:04:44.179 --> 01:04:46.519
the mortal realms for Age of Sigmar because there

01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:48.559
was one final ritual where they were all involved.

01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:56.139
That's not why that happened. So do anything

01:04:56.139 --> 01:04:58.940
with them, I guess, is my starter point. Don't

01:04:58.940 --> 01:05:01.670
have one of them get like. diffed by a chaos

01:05:01.670 --> 01:05:05.829
demon after an entire eighth of all it gets poured

01:05:05.829 --> 01:05:08.789
into the demon i don't care that it's a bloodthirster

01:05:08.789 --> 01:05:13.090
that's an eighth of all met crispy fried obliterated

01:05:13.090 --> 01:05:17.369
but like no they just do nothing and then the

01:05:17.369 --> 01:05:20.469
gas chokes them out i like the idea like the

01:05:20.469 --> 01:05:22.690
they become so powerful like you know like the

01:05:22.690 --> 01:05:25.710
emperor's sword and 40k they would like unwind

01:05:25.710 --> 01:05:29.090
like the essence of a demon I like that if they

01:05:29.090 --> 01:05:31.849
each had the power to do that so it's a thing

01:05:31.849 --> 01:05:33.769
of like it makes them extra dangerous because

01:05:33.769 --> 01:05:38.309
they can actually kill a demon's like I guess

01:05:38.309 --> 01:05:41.269
essence immortally so that could be like a threat

01:05:41.269 --> 01:05:43.409
it makes the good guys seem like they actually

01:05:43.409 --> 01:05:46.030
got a chance so like if they play it strategically

01:05:46.030 --> 01:05:49.710
they could basically use this power as the gift

01:05:49.710 --> 01:05:51.570
that it is I don't mind like you said like it

01:05:51.570 --> 01:05:53.610
going wrong for quite a few of them because that's

01:05:53.610 --> 01:05:57.199
just how it should be but the idea like it's

01:05:57.199 --> 01:05:59.440
just kind of like hey it's just a mega you know

01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:01.880
i mean like i just gone to super saiyan you know

01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.719
three and it turns out like yeah that's fucking

01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:08.360
useless at the moment you know that's great thanks

01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:12.539
guys uh i mean to be fair i wouldn't change too

01:06:12.539 --> 01:06:14.480
much about it again like you said i probably

01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:18.440
make it just more more essentially what it is

01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.679
though uh and that so they obviously across the

01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:24.559
end times like various different characters they

01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.099
end up being i think it'd be quite cool if it

01:06:27.099 --> 01:06:29.380
does transfer a few times because then it's showing

01:06:29.380 --> 01:06:31.840
like it you know some well -known characters

01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.760
do have to die uh speaking of something that

01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:37.800
well -known characters that should all die uh

01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:41.239
the skaven you know blessed be to the horn rat

01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:45.039
who throws his kids into the meat grinder colin

01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.480
the next one is uh the skaven rise up and yeah

01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:50.860
we need some more info on this one because it's

01:06:51.610 --> 01:06:53.909
I it's, it's honestly, you say that it's not

01:06:53.909 --> 01:06:57.630
that much to it. Uh, the great horned rat is

01:06:57.630 --> 01:07:00.769
summoned into the world to get the Skaven on

01:07:00.769 --> 01:07:03.449
the same page. Finally, because every now and

01:07:03.449 --> 01:07:04.809
again, even he's like, all right, it's funny

01:07:04.809 --> 01:07:06.670
watching you stab each other, but come on, let's,

01:07:06.670 --> 01:07:09.150
let's get some, let's get the ball rolling. So

01:07:09.150 --> 01:07:13.010
he does that eats the previous, like, you know,

01:07:13.010 --> 01:07:15.210
head of the, like the seer Lord, the head of

01:07:15.210 --> 01:07:18.409
the council of 13 basically, uh, replaces him

01:07:18.409 --> 01:07:22.519
with thankful, which. one of the decisions of

01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:25.780
all time undoubtedly i do like that though and

01:07:25.780 --> 01:07:29.960
i do it does make sense it is yeah his whole

01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:32.539
life is failing upwards he's he's failed to the

01:07:32.539 --> 01:07:37.119
top finally uh and with uh with the horned rat

01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:39.820
and thankful's guidance and alliances or no i'm

01:07:39.820 --> 01:07:43.019
jumping ahead a bit uh the the skaven will rise

01:07:43.019 --> 01:07:46.199
up to devour the surface world and so thank well

01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:49.719
he finally takes gnome he did it After Gotrek

01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:51.380
and Felix stopped him all those years ago, he

01:07:51.380 --> 01:07:54.579
got his dub. He got the Nuln Oil. He got the

01:07:54.579 --> 01:07:57.320
Nuln Oil. And then in the background, the Skaven

01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:00.699
overrun like two -thirds of the world. Like Hylia,

01:08:00.900 --> 01:08:04.340
Estalia, the Border Princes, all of Araby, most

01:08:04.340 --> 01:08:09.679
of Cathay, just chunks of the Empire. They just

01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:14.880
become supremely overpowered and just start devouring

01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:19.380
everything. And in spite of being able to...

01:08:19.380 --> 01:08:24.079
Are you a moon rock enjoyer? Oh yeah, they also

01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:27.079
blow up the moon, that's right. I don't know

01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:29.279
if I'm a moon rock enjoyer. No, I think it's

01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:31.479
funny as hell. What do you mean by that? They

01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:33.899
kill the lizardmen, right? They also just completely

01:08:33.899 --> 01:08:37.680
overrun the lizardmen. Oh my gosh. And despite

01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:39.979
doing all of that, the horned rat still goes,

01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:42.779
I don't have the power to beat chaos. Brother,

01:08:42.819 --> 01:08:47.180
what? You just overran the world. I think you

01:08:47.180 --> 01:08:50.039
do. I think the Horned Rat should at some point

01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:53.060
near the very end attempt to betray the other

01:08:53.060 --> 01:08:58.680
Chaos Gods, but it doesn't come to fruition fast

01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:01.479
enough. Or at least 1v1 one of them. I don't

01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:04.760
know. Honestly, I think what they could do is

01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:07.199
make the Skaven less so resoundingly successful.

01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:10.000
Because as it stands, there's no reason for them

01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.359
to shack up with Chaos because they are so ascendant.

01:09:13.869 --> 01:09:17.310
But if they make it so like, you know, like Araby

01:09:17.310 --> 01:09:18.869
and, you know, some of the other states are able

01:09:18.869 --> 01:09:21.270
to hold them back, they don't just drop the moon

01:09:21.270 --> 01:09:23.170
on the Lizardmen or they're able to hold them

01:09:23.170 --> 01:09:25.489
back much more effectively before the moon drop.

01:09:26.270 --> 01:09:28.289
They could make it so the Horned Rat actually

01:09:28.289 --> 01:09:31.590
is like, okay, they should probably just join

01:09:31.590 --> 01:09:33.670
Chaos now because it's not looking like I've

01:09:33.670 --> 01:09:36.050
got many rats left, relatively speaking, of course.

01:09:36.869 --> 01:09:40.829
It could be like the... Go ahead, Andy. So who

01:09:40.829 --> 01:09:44.260
are the Skaven allied to in the End Times? Chaos.

01:09:44.380 --> 01:09:47.399
Just chaos. They're not sipping the Kool -Aid.

01:09:47.500 --> 01:09:50.380
They're just allied to it. Well, they kind of

01:09:50.380 --> 01:09:54.460
are chaos in some way. The Horned Rat's kind

01:09:54.460 --> 01:09:59.199
of a chaos god. Yeah, but they're not like Kornate

01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:03.619
or Sinchian. No, they're their own faction. This

01:10:03.619 --> 01:10:05.520
is what I'm getting at. Could you have a thing

01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:08.319
where maybe Sinch starts spinning some webs in

01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.319
order to be like, I don't want this to end. I

01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:11.880
want to keep this going. Then all of a sudden

01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:17.550
you get... Chaos Corrupted Skaven and then Trueborn

01:10:17.550 --> 01:10:19.850
Skaven are like, oh, Horned Rat's the only way.

01:10:20.069 --> 01:10:22.810
Why are you blue? That's cringe. And then like

01:10:22.810 --> 01:10:24.529
Cornate ones are like, that's a good fight. And

01:10:24.529 --> 01:10:27.310
then you have like Chaos infecting the ranks.

01:10:27.890 --> 01:10:29.630
They're kind of thinking like the enemy of my

01:10:29.630 --> 01:10:33.090
enemy of my enemy is my good time pal. Let's

01:10:33.090 --> 01:10:35.840
kill each other sort of deal. rather than having

01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:38.180
the kind of loyalist component where that's like,

01:10:38.300 --> 01:10:39.979
oh, well, they're not going to side with the

01:10:39.979 --> 01:10:42.560
Skaven, but the Skaven would be undone by their

01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:46.720
own hubris or ambition, so to speak. It's just

01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:50.279
too much of a meme idea. When they blow up the

01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:56.500
moon, a second moon hits. And then the second

01:10:56.500 --> 01:10:59.880
moon is like when they're on the surface. There's

01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:03.760
been a second morselia. If they could blow up

01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:06.479
the moon and accidentally wipe out half of the

01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:08.880
Skaven at the same time. Yeah, that's what I

01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:12.560
mean. They accidentally blow up a chunk of the

01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:15.619
moon fur, then they rise up once that's hit,

01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:18.600
and they're like, oh, time to wreck everyone's...

01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.600
do everyone a bad haircut. And then it turns

01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.460
out the second half of Moresleep is about to

01:11:24.460 --> 01:11:30.159
hit. I think they should fail spectacularly in

01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:35.710
some way. as on point. Or if there's Skaven nukes,

01:11:35.770 --> 01:11:38.390
just a full -on Skaven nuke that goes off in

01:11:38.390 --> 01:11:40.989
Skaven Blight. Skaven trying to deploy the nukes,

01:11:41.010 --> 01:11:43.510
accidentally detonate them mid -process. Like,

01:11:43.510 --> 01:11:46.270
whoopsie! Like their equivalent of Chernobyl.

01:11:46.449 --> 01:11:51.210
Like, yeah, that would work. Oops. My overall

01:11:51.210 --> 01:11:53.529
thing would be make them less successful so them

01:11:53.529 --> 01:11:56.430
joining with Chaos is like an actual thing and

01:11:56.430 --> 01:11:58.449
not just the writers going, yeah, no, they need

01:11:58.449 --> 01:12:01.189
to. Trust us. What are they doing with Nagash?

01:12:01.739 --> 01:12:05.079
Oh, they put the nuke under his Black Pyramid

01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:10.899
and blow it up. No changes. Scrap the Black Pyramid

01:12:10.899 --> 01:12:12.840
thing. I really hate that they have to keep doing

01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.359
the Black Pyramid skit. No, it's funny. No. More

01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.119
Black Pyramids. It's so funny that in AOS the

01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:21.939
solution was to turn them upside down and build...

01:12:21.939 --> 01:12:24.619
The way they write it, it's dead serious, though.

01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:28.890
I like it. Come on. It's funny. Leave the Black

01:12:28.890 --> 01:12:31.970
Pyramid be. I like that the Black Pyramid survives,

01:12:32.229 --> 01:12:34.010
to be honest, but it just doesn't work well enough

01:12:34.010 --> 01:12:35.609
because there's not enough people left alive

01:12:35.609 --> 01:12:39.569
to, like... No, I think they do blow it up. Like,

01:12:39.590 --> 01:12:41.409
it's just totally gone, at least in the end times.

01:12:41.529 --> 01:12:44.170
He builds more in Age of Sigmar. No, but what

01:12:44.170 --> 01:12:46.550
I mean is, like, he builds one, but there's not

01:12:46.550 --> 01:12:49.170
enough... Like, he needs to kill people to, like,

01:12:49.170 --> 01:12:51.939
power it. And there's not enough people... Basically,

01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:55.739
the second moon hits. There's not enough sacrifices.

01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:59.880
Yeah, there's not enough. So Nagash's big plan

01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:03.220
to reenact the ritual and kill all the people

01:13:03.220 --> 01:13:04.859
around the world. There's not enough people left

01:13:04.859 --> 01:13:07.840
to do it. So he's like, okay, I guess I'll side

01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:10.159
with the Order people because now I actually

01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:14.720
can't fight chaos by myself. And he brings the

01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.039
Black Pyramid that just floats ominously over

01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:20.479
Middenheim. Yeah. And then that gets blown up.

01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.420
Yeah, that will get blown up. The next one is

01:13:23.420 --> 01:13:27.220
also a pretty quick, simple one. The greenskins

01:13:27.220 --> 01:13:29.720
all unite. It's just for the sake of that's a

01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:33.680
very big thing, but it's also just exactly as

01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:35.659
simple as it sounds like. Grimgor gets all the

01:13:35.659 --> 01:13:38.100
boys under him, including the goblins. Skarsnik

01:13:38.100 --> 01:13:40.060
is the prophet of Mork. Grimgor is the prophet

01:13:40.060 --> 01:13:46.319
of Gork. Orzag is around, dancing. Is it Skarsnik?

01:13:46.420 --> 01:13:48.680
Did they forget Skarsnik? They did. We only know

01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:51.159
that Skarsnik was around after Carrick ate Peaks

01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:53.279
because I think Josh Reynolds told people out

01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:55.979
of universe, which is how like half of all End

01:13:55.979 --> 01:13:58.199
Times lore that doesn't suck exists because he

01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:01.819
had to patch it up outside of universe. He had

01:14:01.819 --> 01:14:04.239
to do triage. What would you do with Skarsnik?

01:14:07.380 --> 01:14:10.500
Throw him with the boys. Yeah, I mean, in the

01:14:10.500 --> 01:14:12.500
end time, like he was said after Carrick ate

01:14:12.500 --> 01:14:14.439
Peaks, he was said to be like, and out of universe

01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:17.060
said he was like in the final battle leading

01:14:17.060 --> 01:14:21.359
some gabos. So, but I mean, what they really

01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.699
do is they bulldoze all the way through Chaos

01:14:23.699 --> 01:14:27.399
Dwarf territory into Cathay, then back through

01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:29.880
Chaos Dwarf territory a bit. They recruit all

01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:33.500
the ogres as well. And then Teclis teleports

01:14:33.500 --> 01:14:36.199
every green skin and ogre ever into Middenheim.

01:14:38.060 --> 01:14:45.319
Nice. He just does that. We'll keep that point,

01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:47.359
I think. That's quite cool. But the next one

01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:51.319
is the one where I would change stuff, which

01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:55.260
is the... Which doesn't make sense to me. The

01:14:55.260 --> 01:14:57.659
Chaos Invasion happens in the Empire, they're

01:14:57.659 --> 01:14:59.539
pushing through the Old World, and then they

01:14:59.539 --> 01:15:02.239
somehow end up at Altdorf before they end up

01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:06.850
at Middenheim. So they had actually captured

01:15:06.850 --> 01:15:09.310
Middenheim. What happened with that was they

01:15:09.310 --> 01:15:13.430
had the flame of Olik, which keeps Middenheim

01:15:13.430 --> 01:15:15.850
safe, and then Teclis ripped it out of its socket

01:15:15.850 --> 01:15:18.289
to bring bacteria into life, and Olik was like,

01:15:18.350 --> 01:15:24.529
hey, man, what the hell? Yeah, it doesn't make

01:15:24.529 --> 01:15:27.350
sense in the grand scheme. Like, this grand conspirator

01:15:27.350 --> 01:15:30.909
who, like, by the way, guys, crazy idea, get

01:15:30.909 --> 01:15:36.970
my niece killed. Lol. We'll destroy the continent,

01:15:37.350 --> 01:15:42.069
Nagaroth. We'll reunite Elvenkind, unleash the

01:15:42.069 --> 01:15:46.829
Vortex, but I really need my psychotic brother.

01:15:47.829 --> 01:15:50.569
I think that should be abandoned, to be honest.

01:15:50.630 --> 01:15:54.270
That whole plot line. I like Tyrion. I think

01:15:54.270 --> 01:15:57.289
he's done his purpose. there's too many times

01:15:57.289 --> 01:15:58.810
where they're like they won't give chaos the

01:15:58.810 --> 01:16:02.270
win per se it's more of a like the the good guys

01:16:02.270 --> 01:16:04.550
it's everyone else puts on their stupid hats

01:16:04.550 --> 01:16:07.529
yeah i think it'd be more of a thing where they

01:16:07.529 --> 01:16:12.029
just end up straight up like the high elves go

01:16:12.029 --> 01:16:14.949
for like an initial engagement and they end up

01:16:14.949 --> 01:16:16.869
losing like i don't i would like to do like they

01:16:16.869 --> 01:16:19.430
end up losing the first few rounds like properly

01:16:19.430 --> 01:16:25.029
and then i would rather that middenheim falls

01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.260
And that the final battle more happens around

01:16:28.260 --> 01:16:30.720
near Altdorf because that's a bit more of a,

01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.260
like it's a center of the empire. Do you know

01:16:33.260 --> 01:16:34.840
what I mean? Whereas Mindenheim is obviously

01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.560
like the, you know, the cultural capital in some

01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:39.939
way, like, you know, Ulrich's Flame and other

01:16:39.939 --> 01:16:42.460
parts. But I think it's just much more of an

01:16:42.460 --> 01:16:46.319
interesting setting if it's around Altdorf because

01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:49.619
that's like, that's the last bastion of the empire.

01:16:49.819 --> 01:16:51.600
Do you know what I mean? That should be. the

01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:54.399
place where it's like it finally ends in you

01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:56.739
know the capital where it's you know properly

01:16:56.739 --> 01:16:59.020
interesting i don't know if everyone would agree

01:16:59.020 --> 01:17:01.939
with that like i think minheim could be still

01:17:01.939 --> 01:17:04.180
fine to be fair like it's not that bad but anyway

01:17:04.180 --> 01:17:09.779
speaking of um uh old dorf old dorf is besieged

01:17:09.779 --> 01:17:12.979
and it is sacked by the forces of nurgle god

01:17:12.979 --> 01:17:16.659
i hate this part the glockin other uh who's the

01:17:16.659 --> 01:17:19.520
other festus i think is there as well uh there's

01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:22.100
a massive battle that happens in old dorf and

01:17:22.100 --> 01:17:27.399
this is where uh carl franz is i think here there's

01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:31.479
uh annoyingly uh forces of bretonia are randomly

01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:36.479
here yeah giles uh no no no uh low and low and

01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:44.890
core is uh yeah uh he dies here Yeah, Bretonnia

01:17:44.890 --> 01:17:47.029
came out the worst of the end times, which I'm

01:17:47.029 --> 01:17:51.329
okay with. I don't think Leon Kerr should be

01:17:51.329 --> 01:17:53.810
here at all, by the way. He should be doing literally

01:17:53.810 --> 01:17:59.829
anything else. Yeah. Being in Bretonnia. The

01:17:59.829 --> 01:18:03.489
opening fact that, by the way, what is it? They

01:18:03.489 --> 01:18:06.130
basically went from the wall has fallen to the

01:18:06.130 --> 01:18:10.229
empire has fallen in the span of in between bringing

01:18:10.229 --> 01:18:12.479
up the empire. It's like, all right, the wall

01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:14.420
has fallen. Chaos is coming now. It's time to

01:18:14.420 --> 01:18:16.560
get ready. They're in Altdorf, which is at the

01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:18.880
other end of the fire. You missed a few steps

01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:21.899
there, buddy. You kind of bulldoze through all

01:18:21.899 --> 01:18:26.680
of it with pretty minimal prominence. I think

01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:28.659
the idea of it, because the character of Volton

01:18:28.659 --> 01:18:31.100
is the supposedly, like, there's a weird part.

01:18:31.180 --> 01:18:34.560
He's like the reborn Sigma character -ish, where

01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:37.899
he has the twin hammers. He's got the twin comet.

01:18:38.550 --> 01:18:40.369
mark on his body, does he call it? Does he have

01:18:40.369 --> 01:18:42.989
the twin? Yeah, he's got the twin -tailed comet

01:18:42.989 --> 01:18:45.989
as a birthmark. Just make him Sigmar, as in,

01:18:46.029 --> 01:18:49.750
like, make him reborn Sigmar. Just pull your

01:18:49.750 --> 01:18:54.149
finger out and do it. And, like, I think there's

01:18:54.149 --> 01:18:58.529
a thing of Karl Franz. Yeah, because Karl Franz

01:18:58.529 --> 01:19:00.470
ends up giving him, he makes him the head of

01:19:00.470 --> 01:19:02.270
the church, doesn't he? He gives him Galmaraz.

01:19:02.750 --> 01:19:06.109
I don't... I like the idea that Karl Franz doesn't

01:19:06.109 --> 01:19:10.829
end up becoming the Incarn or the Lord of the

01:19:10.829 --> 01:19:14.090
Law of Heaven. I think Karl Franz should die

01:19:14.090 --> 01:19:17.289
the statesman that he was. He should die the

01:19:17.289 --> 01:19:21.510
emperor that he was. He was a man. He was not

01:19:21.510 --> 01:19:24.409
erased by Sigma. I like the idea of him just...

01:19:24.409 --> 01:19:28.449
The initial engagement maybe happens around...

01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.319
uh talabekheim or something and that's where

01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:33.859
the empire like initially loses and that they

01:19:33.859 --> 01:19:37.239
lose middenheim and they fall back to altdorf

01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:41.100
where like essentially they are emperorless whatever

01:19:41.100 --> 01:19:44.319
and then they essentially the siege of altdorf

01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.739
has remained like a massive stalemate for a long

01:19:46.739 --> 01:19:50.039
time until the forces of order eventually have

01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:52.539
to come and reinforce them i think because it

01:19:52.539 --> 01:19:55.359
is a is a bit more like a siege of helms deep

01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:57.220
like we reference that kind of thing there where

01:19:57.220 --> 01:20:00.130
like you know Not like everyone else comes to

01:20:00.130 --> 01:20:03.109
save the day, but make it a proper siege rather

01:20:03.109 --> 01:20:05.670
than, by the way guys, the capital's gone, whoops.

01:20:07.869 --> 01:20:09.750
Sorry, Colin, do you want to explain a bit more

01:20:09.750 --> 01:20:12.210
of the events, our actual canon, technically,

01:20:12.770 --> 01:20:18.210
about the siege of Altdorf? Yeah, so Vlad is

01:20:18.210 --> 01:20:21.350
also there, Vlad von Karstein. Vlad has a sword

01:20:21.350 --> 01:20:23.569
that drinks the blood of whoever he stabs into

01:20:23.569 --> 01:20:27.880
it. He stabbed the Glotkin, which are these big

01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:32.420
old Nurgle monsters, and he got icky, gross Nurgle

01:20:32.420 --> 01:20:35.340
blood, so he left by just going off to vomit.

01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:41.920
Maybe not have him there, because that's just

01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:47.100
so stupid. Or at least give him a different weapon

01:20:47.100 --> 01:20:50.359
so his exit from the battle isn't just vomiting

01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:58.029
and going to be hung over from Nurgle crap. Let's

01:20:58.029 --> 01:21:01.590
see what else. Bretonnian Liu and Leon Kerr should

01:21:01.590 --> 01:21:06.029
not be there. No. Maybe do something with Altdorf

01:21:06.029 --> 01:21:09.489
after because when Sigmar resurrects Carl...

01:21:09.489 --> 01:21:13.369
Also, by the way, there's fun... Let's stop there

01:21:13.369 --> 01:21:16.270
for a moment. With the end of that book, the

01:21:16.270 --> 01:21:18.869
way it reads is that Carl Franz was brought back

01:21:18.869 --> 01:21:21.670
to life because he mentions there's a presence

01:21:21.670 --> 01:21:24.720
in my soul. I don't know what the hell that is.

01:21:24.779 --> 01:21:26.460
There's more than just me in here right now.

01:21:26.739 --> 01:21:28.779
And then in the next book, Carl's actually dead

01:21:28.779 --> 01:21:33.180
the whole time. It's just Sigmar. So they retconned

01:21:33.180 --> 01:21:36.720
the event in the next book before the world even

01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:39.159
blew up. It's such a mess. So if nothing else,

01:21:39.260 --> 01:21:41.180
just how about pick a lane on that? You're right.

01:21:41.220 --> 01:21:43.140
I think Bolton should just be Sigmar. But if

01:21:43.140 --> 01:21:45.000
you're going to have it be Carl, pick a lane.

01:21:46.380 --> 01:21:48.000
Bolton, yeah. And then Bolton just calls himself.

01:21:48.100 --> 01:21:51.180
After he realizes he is Sigmar, he just declares

01:21:51.180 --> 01:21:54.789
himself Sigmar. Yeah. but and failing that i

01:21:54.789 --> 01:21:58.270
mean do something with altdorf like again we're

01:21:58.270 --> 01:21:59.989
operating the assumption it's still the end times

01:21:59.989 --> 01:22:02.970
they're going to lose but like the ending of

01:22:02.970 --> 01:22:05.409
it is like sigmar and this brilliant magical

01:22:05.409 --> 01:22:09.449
like blast of you know holy light purified altdorf

01:22:09.449 --> 01:22:13.149
of all the nurgle like just corruption and sickness

01:22:13.149 --> 01:22:18.409
and then we never come back to altdorf It's just

01:22:18.409 --> 01:22:20.390
like, we cleaned it up. Everything is good to

01:22:20.390 --> 01:22:22.170
go. This is going to be the shining bastion of

01:22:22.170 --> 01:22:26.550
order going forward. No, it's not. We're done

01:22:26.550 --> 01:22:29.729
mentioning it. I think the idea of, like, we

01:22:29.729 --> 01:22:31.670
need to have a thing where it creates, like,

01:22:31.689 --> 01:22:34.310
there's kind of a two -front war. There's, like,

01:22:34.329 --> 01:22:38.090
the survivors in Bretonnia, what, you know, supposedly

01:22:38.090 --> 01:22:40.909
of, like, Aberrash and, you know, the vampire

01:22:40.909 --> 01:22:44.229
ones who are still there, and then last, the

01:22:44.229 --> 01:22:47.270
Bretonnians. I generally think it's a thing of...

01:22:47.659 --> 01:22:51.720
like if it's the end times don't have everyone's

01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:54.939
like it have everybody at the end time final

01:22:54.939 --> 01:22:57.159
battle sort of thing if like the idea like someone

01:22:57.159 --> 01:22:59.739
should still be scattered or like you know goddamn

01:22:59.739 --> 01:23:02.380
cathay's forgotten or whatever is a bit of a

01:23:02.380 --> 01:23:04.659
missed opportunity to have everyone almost on

01:23:04.659 --> 01:23:08.220
like this galactic like scale battlefield where

01:23:08.220 --> 01:23:11.859
like uh yeah around the ruins of what is left

01:23:11.859 --> 01:23:16.420
of old dorf i think that'd be quite a Yeah, I

01:23:16.420 --> 01:23:18.140
think also, to be fair, like the idea is like

01:23:18.140 --> 01:23:22.680
the, if say like Archeon isn't here, like Chaos

01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:25.579
also is, Chaos is not, is a bit too unified throughout

01:23:25.579 --> 01:23:28.220
much of the end times. That's true. There should

01:23:28.220 --> 01:23:31.859
be a bit more plot. Say when Middenheim falls,

01:23:31.979 --> 01:23:34.579
there should be a thing of like the Skaven start

01:23:34.579 --> 01:23:38.140
to try and betray Archeon. I think there should

01:23:38.140 --> 01:23:41.550
be some kind of inter -chaos. conflicts or particularly

01:23:41.550 --> 01:23:43.270
like it's the same thing like you know what makes

01:23:43.270 --> 01:23:45.689
bellicore interesting is like he thought he was

01:23:45.689 --> 01:23:49.470
beyond the chaos god's hell well archon is a

01:23:49.470 --> 01:23:51.829
bit too i don't know i have too much to say about

01:23:51.829 --> 01:23:53.989
archon that's going to be a hard episode you

01:23:53.989 --> 01:23:57.069
know i mean but just some kind of conflict that

01:23:57.069 --> 01:23:59.890
means that archon is is somewhat facing challenges

01:23:59.890 --> 01:24:02.770
throughout his invasion rather like i said like

01:24:02.770 --> 01:24:04.829
a few of the young khan characters die like make

01:24:04.829 --> 01:24:07.289
some things more interesting rather than he gets

01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:10.060
fighting the character Volton, and then some

01:24:10.060 --> 01:24:12.500
vermin lord ends up stealing the kill, and it's

01:24:12.500 --> 01:24:15.479
like, well, that's just no fun. That's one of

01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:18.199
the more boring aspects of the End Times. He

01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:21.579
doesn't get to kill a... Does he actually kill

01:24:21.579 --> 01:24:26.220
anyone in the End Times? A big character? Other

01:24:26.220 --> 01:24:29.039
than technically... Well, a vermin lord steals

01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:33.239
his kill on Volton. That's kind of it, yeah.

01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:40.449
Huh. It's got to be one, surely. Yeah, like maybe

01:24:40.449 --> 01:24:43.590
the last of the Kislevites. He kills Kyro's Fateweaver.

01:24:44.710 --> 01:24:49.869
Team kill, team kill. Own goal, own goal. Yeah,

01:24:51.369 --> 01:24:55.109
and then so the next one we have is Thorgrim

01:24:55.109 --> 01:24:58.029
declares the Book of Grudges. That's right, he

01:24:58.029 --> 01:25:03.579
killed Grimgold. You did kill Grimm. Yeah, he

01:25:03.579 --> 01:25:07.199
did. I should have kicked him in the nuts. So

01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:09.220
the next one is Thorgrim declared the Book of

01:25:09.220 --> 01:25:12.680
Grudges fulfilled. What does Colin mean by this?

01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:17.659
So as the final battle was approaching, Thorgrim

01:25:17.659 --> 01:25:20.100
declared that the Book of Grudges, since the

01:25:20.100 --> 01:25:22.819
world is ending, has been fulfilled and the dwarfs

01:25:22.819 --> 01:25:25.979
would march into the end as one people resolute.

01:25:26.649 --> 01:25:29.430
beating the snot out of anyone who had wronged

01:25:29.430 --> 01:25:33.170
them ever, which is... Everyone? Yeah. Although,

01:25:33.229 --> 01:25:35.189
you know, mostly it was chaos, because, you know,

01:25:35.210 --> 01:25:39.430
that's the pressing problem. Also, just for the

01:25:39.430 --> 01:25:42.970
fun, adds addition, in this massive undertaking,

01:25:43.270 --> 01:25:45.590
they retook Karak Eight Peaks, but also didn't,

01:25:45.590 --> 01:25:47.409
because it got blowed up, if I remember correctly.

01:25:48.149 --> 01:25:50.569
And Thorgrim forgot to close the door behind

01:25:50.569 --> 01:25:54.310
him, so the head assassin of the Skaven... Deathmaster

01:25:54.310 --> 01:25:56.550
Snitch stabbed him in the back because once again

01:25:56.550 --> 01:25:59.850
he forgot to close a door. Did he cut his head

01:25:59.850 --> 01:26:02.430
off? No, I think he just stabbed him in the back.

01:26:03.529 --> 01:26:05.449
This is after he's killed Queen, right? He's

01:26:05.449 --> 01:26:08.670
in his invincible OP armor. Yeah, invincible

01:26:08.670 --> 01:26:11.569
OP armor while he's also the incarnate of metal

01:26:11.569 --> 01:26:14.869
magic and I believe his armor has runes specifically

01:26:14.869 --> 01:26:19.829
to prevent backstabbing. Head out of pen writing,

01:26:19.989 --> 01:26:22.390
my lord. Do you think you should make it to the

01:26:22.390 --> 01:26:26.279
final battle? Thorgrim? Yeah, he's the head dwarf.

01:26:26.699 --> 01:26:33.600
Not as the incarnate of metal. I like Gelt. It

01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:36.380
does make more sense, to be fair. Do you think

01:26:36.380 --> 01:26:38.119
there's another one that would make more sense

01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:41.439
to give into the... Also, giving an aspect of

01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:44.479
magic to the dwarves is kind of really bizarre.

01:26:45.220 --> 01:26:49.720
Since they're kind of anti -magic. They could

01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:52.100
always have their own thing. They kind of...

01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:54.260
like they activate some kind of ancient dwarf

01:26:54.260 --> 01:26:57.279
super weapon that's just like uh you know you

01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:59.640
know like um oh what's the thing in naruto where

01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:02.300
it's like you know like oh the recent thing where

01:27:02.300 --> 01:27:05.180
like you like it consumes you but it basically

01:27:05.180 --> 01:27:07.720
turns you basically into a super saiyan temporarily

01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:10.859
or something the nine -tailed fox yeah well no

01:27:10.859 --> 01:27:15.680
but like yeah like the um yeah the uh the the

01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:19.729
gates you know like the inner gates Oh, yeah.

01:27:19.829 --> 01:27:21.829
Oh, White Guy's thing, where he beat the ever

01:27:21.829 --> 01:27:26.649
-loving fuck out of Mothra. What are the dwarf

01:27:26.649 --> 01:27:32.270
gods doing in all this? Dead. Not dead. Well,

01:27:32.489 --> 01:27:38.289
so Nagash ate Valaya. Yeah. Or at least her power.

01:27:39.289 --> 01:27:46.149
And Grimnir was getting ready for Godric to replace

01:27:46.149 --> 01:27:48.539
him. And then I think in the meantime, after

01:27:48.539 --> 01:27:51.739
that, he just kind of went swinging. Don't remember

01:27:51.739 --> 01:27:54.800
what Grugni was doing. I don't think it was important.

01:27:55.500 --> 01:27:58.180
They should have shown up at least. It's so stupid

01:27:58.180 --> 01:28:02.500
that they're not in some way there. At least

01:28:02.500 --> 01:28:08.159
we can't remember them. What is Ungrim doing

01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:12.880
all this time? Dying. The real question, we'll

01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:14.960
save this for the end though. I don't remember

01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:19.039
even how he died. The last part we have to finish

01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:24.380
on is the Middenheim, the ritual, the last battle

01:28:24.380 --> 01:28:28.579
is enacted. The forces of order, of sentient

01:28:28.579 --> 01:28:33.100
life, face legions of untold demons. Everybody

01:28:33.100 --> 01:28:38.140
is here. Setra does stuff. That's basically,

01:28:38.340 --> 01:28:41.239
you know, he's the one representing, but they

01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:45.409
enact this ritual to save the... world, essentially.

01:28:45.489 --> 01:28:47.829
All of the Incarns, I believe, come together.

01:28:48.149 --> 01:28:49.609
Do they have all of them, or do they have most

01:28:49.609 --> 01:28:53.529
of them, I think? I think they had all of them.

01:28:54.149 --> 01:28:57.989
And this is where... Colin, do you want to take

01:28:57.989 --> 01:29:00.810
over to explain how it kind of went? So they

01:29:00.810 --> 01:29:03.210
were able to retake Middenheim from Archeon,

01:29:03.329 --> 01:29:08.739
and the plan was to... enact this ritual that

01:29:08.739 --> 01:29:11.659
would stop the chaos gate it was an ancient old

01:29:11.659 --> 01:29:13.800
ones portal that archaeon had turned into a chaos

01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.739
gate under middenheim the plan to stop it was

01:29:16.739 --> 01:29:18.899
you know have the incarnates do this ritual stabilize

01:29:18.899 --> 01:29:22.000
things and prevent chaos's ultimate victory uh

01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.739
they were all there except for maybe the incarnate

01:29:24.739 --> 01:29:26.600
of beasts because i think that was grip gore

01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:28.159
and i don't think it went to anyone after he

01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:34.430
died not not the the beastmen All right, come

01:29:34.430 --> 01:29:37.489
on now. I guess they're chaos. They're chaos,

01:29:37.649 --> 01:29:39.649
and also let's not pretend GW is going to give

01:29:39.649 --> 01:29:41.470
a shit about the beast. Hey, don't put more effort

01:29:41.470 --> 01:29:43.430
into this than GW, Eli. What are you doing? I

01:29:43.430 --> 01:29:45.069
guess, to be fair, that could have been one way

01:29:45.069 --> 01:29:47.029
to solve the problem of why the ritual fails

01:29:47.029 --> 01:29:49.729
is to have the incarnate of beast become a beastman

01:29:49.729 --> 01:29:52.310
and he interrupts, but that would be giving the

01:29:52.310 --> 01:29:57.569
beastman credit. Kazrax did, right? Todd? Oh,

01:29:57.590 --> 01:29:59.630
yeah. By this point, him and Todd had killed

01:29:59.630 --> 01:30:03.000
each other. Kazrak. Todd killed Kazrak and then

01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:06.220
80 Beastmen jumped Todd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which,

01:30:06.460 --> 01:30:08.819
to be fair to that event, that's about how that

01:30:08.819 --> 01:30:15.680
would go. So, the ritual is going okay. Teclis,

01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:19.380
at one point, I believe he had a... That might

01:30:19.380 --> 01:30:20.699
have been where the incarnate of Beast went,

01:30:20.859 --> 01:30:22.739
because Teclis had to take one of the Winds of

01:30:22.739 --> 01:30:25.479
Magic into himself on top of the second one.

01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:31.359
No. That was the third one. What happened was

01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:35.520
during the ritual, Manfred, solely to spite Vlad...

01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:41.300
That's how angry I am. Solely to spite Vlad,

01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.659
Manfred goes up behind Gelt, mid -ritual, to

01:30:44.659 --> 01:30:48.420
save the world, which includes Manfred, and stabs

01:30:48.420 --> 01:30:51.960
him in the back. This causes Teclis to try and

01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:55.000
take on a third wind of magic, which he cannot

01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:58.359
handle. The ritual destabilizes, the portal expands

01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:02.359
through an outright chaos rift, and the world

01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:05.779
ends. Tyrion, who is back now, at least gets,

01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:07.880
you know, one redeeming thing in this whole arc,

01:31:07.979 --> 01:31:11.479
which is stabs Manfred in the back because he

01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:13.600
was finally, you know, almost beginning to forgive

01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:15.899
Teclis for all of the scheming, and then he just...

01:31:15.899 --> 01:31:20.460
So Manfred got the unmatched power of the sun

01:31:20.460 --> 01:31:23.619
through Sunfang through his back, blew his back

01:31:23.619 --> 01:31:29.319
out, as it were. Yeah, and then the world ends.

01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:33.119
Some people... There's at least a couple nice

01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:36.119
little poignant endings. Tyrion and Allariel

01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:39.340
hold hands as the world is overtaken by chaos.

01:31:40.140 --> 01:31:44.760
The undead actually... And the fucking boot of

01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:48.300
all places, the halfling called Neferata and

01:31:48.300 --> 01:31:51.340
Kalida actually kind of make up a little bit.

01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:55.060
And... the undead and the living go out together

01:31:55.060 --> 01:32:00.420
um malekith has a just kind of pathetic end i'm

01:32:00.420 --> 01:32:03.020
not gonna lie he's stuck pinned underneath his

01:32:03.020 --> 01:32:07.500
dead dragon and uh he's he he's he's at first

01:32:07.500 --> 01:32:09.779
he's like i will make the chaos gods pay in this

01:32:09.779 --> 01:32:12.739
world or the next and he also reflects on damn

01:32:12.739 --> 01:32:16.619
my life kind of sucked didn't it which to be

01:32:16.619 --> 01:32:22.220
fair yeah What else? What else am I missing?

01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:26.420
The Oak of Ages is the last thing to be overtaken

01:32:26.420 --> 01:32:29.199
in the heart of Athel Loren. And then the world

01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:32.920
blow up. And now comes... Do you have any way

01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:36.359
you think that this... Because as I say, it has

01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:40.380
to happen. The entire... In some way, the dream

01:32:40.380 --> 01:32:42.979
is not continuing. Can you think of any ways

01:32:42.979 --> 01:32:46.140
in which you would make it sit better or have

01:32:46.140 --> 01:32:49.229
it be a cooler scene? i like i said earlier have

01:32:49.229 --> 01:32:52.210
the incarnates like ritual do something this

01:32:52.210 --> 01:32:54.609
isn't stands like they just did it it failed

01:32:54.609 --> 01:32:58.989
didn't amount to anything so maybe have it result

01:32:58.989 --> 01:33:01.010
in the mortal realms actually forming instead

01:33:01.010 --> 01:33:03.989
of just it's just really a coincidence the winds

01:33:03.989 --> 01:33:05.649
of magic are just kind of constant they would

01:33:05.649 --> 01:33:07.949
have done that whether or not they did in mittenheim

01:33:07.949 --> 01:33:12.210
andy eli any uh any thoughts of how you would

01:33:12.210 --> 01:33:15.770
give it a little oh uh One more is, like, have

01:33:15.770 --> 01:33:18.149
chaos be, like, meaningfully wounded in this?

01:33:18.970 --> 01:33:20.909
Like, I don't know. Maybe some of the gods are

01:33:20.909 --> 01:33:23.170
the combined effort of all magic in the world

01:33:23.170 --> 01:33:25.270
pouring into them. Like, all the chaos gods are,

01:33:25.310 --> 01:33:28.210
like, they take a wound that sticks with them.

01:33:28.270 --> 01:33:31.010
So it's like, yeah, the world went down, but

01:33:31.010 --> 01:33:34.010
it didn't go down quietly, and chaos will forever

01:33:34.010 --> 01:33:36.149
be, like, weaker for it. Like, there needs to

01:33:36.149 --> 01:33:40.079
be a counterbalance in there. something to give

01:33:40.079 --> 01:33:42.600
everyone that isn't chaos credit and make it

01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:44.880
feel like the mortal realms weren't a participation

01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:49.500
trophy yeah like it's it's like the best i have

01:33:49.500 --> 01:33:52.279
is like a shorthand but like similar to how 40

01:33:52.279 --> 01:33:54.539
gay has martyrs where it's like oh the sister

01:33:54.539 --> 01:33:57.779
of battle died but she became a symbol of like

01:33:57.779 --> 01:34:01.300
even though i died i'm still about or like bolstering

01:34:01.300 --> 01:34:04.760
the emperor's theoretical power source through

01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:07.100
acts of valor it's like you need to have something

01:34:07.869 --> 01:34:10.189
That makes it like, even though we died, if we

01:34:10.189 --> 01:34:11.810
want to keep the setting going, have something

01:34:11.810 --> 01:34:19.130
like bolster Karl Franz ascended through the

01:34:19.130 --> 01:34:23.149
sacrifice of heroes, and that's like a power

01:34:23.149 --> 01:34:28.369
source. You need something. Eli, what are the

01:34:28.369 --> 01:34:32.479
thoughts? I don't know. I don't know why the

01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:35.079
world really has to end. They could have won

01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:37.939
and then Manfred could have stabbed Balthazar.

01:34:39.020 --> 01:34:44.539
Whatever. I don't know, man. I don't know. Losing

01:34:44.539 --> 01:34:46.859
is the worst possible case for the whole setting,

01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.979
to be clear. The ritual could half work and make

01:34:49.979 --> 01:34:52.359
a nice little bubble that protects at least something

01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:54.979
and then the world blows up around them but the

01:34:54.979 --> 01:34:59.789
bubble is still around. I don't know. I like

01:34:59.789 --> 01:35:02.970
the idea of Colin suggesting purpose to it. So

01:35:02.970 --> 01:35:08.869
my idea is the ritual is not to save their current

01:35:08.869 --> 01:35:13.390
world. Basically, the world is dying anyway.

01:35:13.729 --> 01:35:18.029
I think the ritual should be like they purposely

01:35:18.029 --> 01:35:22.149
destroy the world in a way to create the new

01:35:22.149 --> 01:35:29.939
one. Like Mortal Kombat. down like New York City

01:35:29.939 --> 01:35:35.439
I think the idea like they essentially they the

01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:38.819
reason they should say like although they come

01:35:38.819 --> 01:35:41.560
to some kind of knowledge that this cycle keeps

01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:44.779
happening in the same way like a world is created

01:35:44.779 --> 01:35:48.479
chaos inevitably corrupts it destroys it the

01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:52.710
cycle begins anew and they should say this ritual

01:35:52.710 --> 01:35:56.250
will create not a world, but realms in which

01:35:56.250 --> 01:35:58.670
we'll have a better chance and spread chaos's

01:35:58.670 --> 01:36:03.310
power. Like Mortal Kombat. Yeah, I literally

01:36:03.310 --> 01:36:06.829
know. Kang is now the god of thunder and fire.

01:36:07.189 --> 01:36:11.029
Johnny Cage, the incarnate of the heavens. Kang

01:36:11.029 --> 01:36:13.210
is literally like, Raiden, you're terrible at

01:36:13.210 --> 01:36:16.029
being the guardian of Earth. I got it from here,

01:36:16.090 --> 01:36:18.149
bro. You can just be a farmer. And he's like,

01:36:18.229 --> 01:36:20.489
I will make a new realm. And I was like, Baraka

01:36:20.489 --> 01:36:23.859
is a goodie now. huh and so is melina kind of

01:36:23.859 --> 01:36:27.539
it's like wow but i don't know they're like the

01:36:27.539 --> 01:36:32.720
whole new realm time travel shenanigans and uh

01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:35.560
what's his name uh the guy who's like he's always

01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:38.260
got the shit eating grin uh from the deadly alliance

01:36:38.260 --> 01:36:40.399
and he was in blue -eyed samurai as like the

01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:44.390
the blacksmith But he's the sorcerer in Mortal

01:36:44.390 --> 01:36:46.890
Kombat. And he's just like, I'm still a dick

01:36:46.890 --> 01:36:49.470
no matter what timeline. I'm always going to

01:36:49.470 --> 01:36:55.590
be a dick. Shao Kahn. Not Shao Kahn. Not Shao

01:36:55.590 --> 01:37:00.890
Kahn. No. Chat, who is he? He's the sorcerer

01:37:00.890 --> 01:37:03.850
from Deadly Alliance. Not Quan Chi. The other

01:37:03.850 --> 01:37:08.470
one, not Quan Chi. Oh God, I can't remember his

01:37:08.470 --> 01:37:11.680
name. Shang Tsung. Shang Tsung. Shang Tsung,

01:37:11.819 --> 01:37:18.939
yeah. Man, I think they, in some way, they understand

01:37:18.939 --> 01:37:22.739
the cycle keeps happening, and therefore this

01:37:22.739 --> 01:37:26.420
ritual is actually some kind of defiance of chaos.

01:37:26.699 --> 01:37:29.340
And like Colin said, some kind of wound is which,

01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:31.640
instead of chaos having one world in which they

01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:35.159
are always powered over, they split their...

01:37:35.909 --> 01:37:39.289
strength over realms which is makes it more difficult

01:37:39.289 --> 01:37:42.949
for chaos to have achieving a total victory um

01:37:42.949 --> 01:37:47.630
i think that's important yes to uh to see who's

01:37:47.630 --> 01:37:49.329
the strongest fighter so then therefore yeah

01:37:49.329 --> 01:37:53.050
he wants to continuously yeah beat down on each

01:37:53.050 --> 01:37:56.010
other and keeps releasing more fighting games

01:37:56.010 --> 01:37:58.750
uh that could be a way to save it though people

01:37:58.750 --> 01:38:01.289
let us know if you have any suggestions yourselves

01:38:01.289 --> 01:38:04.840
on anything we've said so far because We're going

01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:09.859
to need them. How do the characters become gods?

01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:11.739
Is it because they had the winds of magic in

01:38:11.739 --> 01:38:15.979
them? A lot of them, yes. Because they had, at

01:38:15.979 --> 01:38:18.680
least for some of them, Sigmar was the incarnate

01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:20.500
of heavens and it ended up connecting him to

01:38:20.500 --> 01:38:22.539
the realm of heavens and making it the god of

01:38:22.539 --> 01:38:25.180
it. Some of them were also just kind of like

01:38:25.180 --> 01:38:28.579
that, though. The dwarf gods were already gods,

01:38:28.739 --> 01:38:33.960
so they lived, so they're still gods. i also

01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:37.500
think they should uh get rid of a lot of the

01:38:37.500 --> 01:38:41.640
older characters uh like essentially they sacrifice

01:38:41.640 --> 01:38:45.659
themselves for this ritual and let age of sigma

01:38:45.659 --> 01:38:50.939
almost be its own thing rather than guys Age

01:38:50.939 --> 01:38:52.399
of Sigmar is not doing well enough. We need to

01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:57.720
bring back another character immediately. It's

01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:00.560
like being a dead horse. Just let Age of Sigmar

01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:04.100
almost have its own thing rather than, guys,

01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:06.680
you know you like Techless. Yeah? Yeah. Well,

01:39:06.699 --> 01:39:09.020
don't worry. There's two Techlesses now. There's

01:39:09.020 --> 01:39:11.760
Techless in this thing and Techless in this thing.

01:39:12.699 --> 01:39:15.340
Wow, I don't want a new thing. I like the old

01:39:15.340 --> 01:39:17.560
thing. I don't want a new thing. I just want

01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:20.220
Techless again. I want it to be like Marble.

01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:25.159
I want it to be like wobble. Duck comics. Let

01:39:25.159 --> 01:39:32.359
me pipe down that stupid twink. Excuse me. If

01:39:32.359 --> 01:39:35.119
there's no Teclis, how can I eat all the time?

01:39:35.220 --> 01:39:40.720
How can I write my fanfic? Excuse me. And then

01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:46.020
Forgrim and Teclis kiss. It's amazing. Now kid.

01:39:48.339 --> 01:39:54.479
Thorgrim and his twink boyfriend. Rock up in

01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:57.739
roller skates. Hitting that elf brazy style from

01:39:57.739 --> 01:40:03.340
the back, straight up mid and landing it. They

01:40:03.340 --> 01:40:07.880
call it bookending. The gift of language was

01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:11.720
a mistake. We're getting rid of grudges. See,

01:40:11.779 --> 01:40:16.640
this move is called the Marionburg. Dude, I'm

01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:25.720
a Marionburger. Full bun. Substantial loafage.

01:40:27.020 --> 01:40:31.420
I must admit, I've been listening to this entire

01:40:31.420 --> 01:40:34.399
conversation partially with eyes glazing over

01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:37.000
because there's lots of words I don't understand.

01:40:38.500 --> 01:40:41.500
characters who i only tangentially understand

01:40:41.500 --> 01:40:45.640
my girlfriend i guess any warhammer law yeah

01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:50.619
um but it's like i guess the problem is we have

01:40:50.619 --> 01:40:53.979
two dichotomies of warhammer fantasy ended and

01:40:53.979 --> 01:40:57.039
then it had to be rebooted whereas 40k will never

01:40:57.039 --> 01:41:00.399
have as far as i can tell an end times and although

01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:03.500
it's like the company's end times yeah money

01:41:03.500 --> 01:41:07.350
never stops chewing as frustrating as it is that

01:41:07.350 --> 01:41:09.270
like warhammer's like do you want to go to armageddon

01:41:09.270 --> 01:41:15.609
again and we're like ah no is it worse than another

01:41:15.609 --> 01:41:19.390
like an end times or is it just we'll just have

01:41:19.390 --> 01:41:22.430
another samey few campaigns until something interesting

01:41:22.430 --> 01:41:24.770
happens now and then can we go back to a crate

01:41:24.770 --> 01:41:29.420
or something yeah or ultramarines Do they generally

01:41:29.420 --> 01:41:31.819
think there's only three worlds in Warhammer

01:41:31.819 --> 01:41:34.340
40k? They're like, guys, is there anything else

01:41:34.340 --> 01:41:37.199
other than Armageddon? No, there's not a single

01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:39.760
bloody world. To be fair to them, though, they

01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:42.579
tried Nachmund. No one cared. They tried Arks

01:41:42.579 --> 01:41:47.100
of Omen. No one really cared. Post -Cadia, Plague

01:41:47.100 --> 01:41:49.420
Wars was fun because it involved Primarchs and

01:41:49.420 --> 01:41:53.899
there was that singed Nurgle's Garden. Other

01:41:53.899 --> 01:41:56.539
than that, does anyone really care about the...

01:41:56.890 --> 01:41:59.390
War of Beasts, not to be confused with the War

01:41:59.390 --> 01:42:02.270
of the Beasts, the War of Beasts of 42nd Millennium.

01:42:02.630 --> 01:42:05.850
Not really. There's other, like, Space Marine

01:42:05.850 --> 01:42:08.510
home worlds and important period worlds that

01:42:08.510 --> 01:42:11.170
people would... Chagoras was relegated to a supplement.

01:42:11.789 --> 01:42:15.590
Listen, guys, if there's as many visits to Armageddon

01:42:15.590 --> 01:42:19.010
as there is Sharknado movies, including Sharknado

01:42:19.010 --> 01:42:23.329
5 Global Warming, then we've really hit the low

01:42:23.329 --> 01:42:28.789
point, okay? Scream 7. I mean Armageddon 7. It's

01:42:28.789 --> 01:42:31.670
another one. What did any of the Dark Elf characters

01:42:31.670 --> 01:42:35.789
do in the End Times? Were they even there? Where's

01:42:35.789 --> 01:42:43.930
Loki and Malice? They died. When? Did they do

01:42:43.930 --> 01:42:47.170
anything? Malice Darkblade? He gets killed by

01:42:47.170 --> 01:42:49.949
someone, doesn't he, Colin? Or has like six novels.

01:42:50.170 --> 01:42:53.880
Oh yeah, Malice Darkblade. With Chaos. rising

01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:57.239
in power, the demon in him overtakes him and

01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:01.279
Malekith kills him. Bruh. That's lame. Yeah,

01:43:01.300 --> 01:43:05.680
I believe that was kind of it for him. Does Loki

01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:09.659
or Felhard do anything? Bro, Loki or Felhard

01:43:09.659 --> 01:43:13.399
doesn't fucking do anything. What? I'm sure he's

01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:17.319
on a boat somewhere. I don't remember how he

01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:21.159
dies. He returned to Cthulhu. And how does the

01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:26.210
Fae Enchantress... What happens to her? Is she

01:43:26.210 --> 01:43:29.050
killed? Is she sacrificed? Once it's revealed,

01:43:29.250 --> 01:43:31.550
Lilith is the Lady of the Lake, which itself,

01:43:31.729 --> 01:43:33.350
like I said, that was originally a different

01:43:33.350 --> 01:43:35.909
goddess that was then decided was a guise of

01:43:35.909 --> 01:43:40.970
Lilith. I don't fucking remember. Yeah, okay.

01:43:41.029 --> 01:43:44.489
Fair enough. Does she become anything for Age

01:43:44.489 --> 01:43:54.739
of Sigmar? No. Bruh. Okay. is there like because

01:43:54.739 --> 01:43:56.479
because we i know we've kind of like been trimming

01:43:56.479 --> 01:44:00.420
away at the proverbial hedge with with end times

01:44:00.420 --> 01:44:03.899
is there like a big grand sweeping thing that

01:44:03.899 --> 01:44:05.279
we could do for the whole setting where it's

01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:08.920
like this would would make it a satisfying conclusion

01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:11.020
because i know there's a lot of like that character

01:44:11.020 --> 01:44:13.720
didn't die how i like them to this faction just

01:44:13.720 --> 01:44:16.939
sort of disappeared and is there like anything

01:44:16.939 --> 01:44:20.359
is there like any saving grace broad sweeps that

01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:21.920
we could do to just be like instantly make it

01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:24.699
a lot better give everyone a lot more credit

01:44:24.699 --> 01:44:26.979
than they were given because like Hal said a

01:44:26.979 --> 01:44:29.119
lot of the time it's not even chaos winning it's

01:44:29.119 --> 01:44:32.340
everyone puts on their stupid idiot hats like

01:44:32.340 --> 01:44:35.260
let everyone actually be at their best on their

01:44:35.260 --> 01:44:38.659
A game and let the ending be like everyone goes

01:44:38.659 --> 01:44:41.039
down fighting and meaningfully does something

01:44:41.039 --> 01:44:44.020
is it I know you guys haven't necessarily all

01:44:44.020 --> 01:44:47.130
watched much of uh game of thrones but was it

01:44:47.130 --> 01:44:49.850
like the similar thing of like oh daenerys kind

01:44:49.850 --> 01:44:52.890
of forgot about the iron fleet next episode the

01:44:52.890 --> 01:44:55.829
authors outright forgot about half the characters

01:44:55.829 --> 01:44:59.229
so yeah yeah i mean i don't know if it was that

01:44:59.229 --> 01:45:04.010
level of bad but it was it was unfortunately

01:45:04.010 --> 01:45:06.449
rushed and it's a thing of they need to expedite

01:45:06.449 --> 01:45:09.810
things so they made people stupid so it could

01:45:09.810 --> 01:45:12.510
just be like you can just have it like the two

01:45:12.510 --> 01:45:15.289
teams got ready to face each other they fought

01:45:15.289 --> 01:45:19.390
and somebody lost like someone's best can just

01:45:19.390 --> 01:45:22.550
be like it doesn't have to be like cetera versus

01:45:22.550 --> 01:45:25.449
nagash doesn't have to be nagash had to dive

01:45:25.449 --> 01:45:28.970
into the realm of the tomb king's undead to devour

01:45:28.970 --> 01:45:30.590
their gods to kill him it could have just been

01:45:30.590 --> 01:45:33.970
he ended up winning because he's in the gash

01:45:33.970 --> 01:45:37.109
like how much it pains me to say because of his

01:45:37.109 --> 01:45:39.510
sector is amazing but like he could just win

01:45:39.510 --> 01:45:42.899
because he's nagash like He just could win the

01:45:42.899 --> 01:45:47.800
fight. Archeon could win the fight once or twice.

01:45:48.979 --> 01:45:52.939
I feel like there could have been an implementation

01:45:52.939 --> 01:45:55.680
of a bitter irony where whoever wins, they're

01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:58.199
like, I've won. But then they don't realize it's

01:45:58.199 --> 01:46:00.979
antithetical to their whole being. And so then

01:46:00.979 --> 01:46:05.260
they're like, I've won. Oh, no. And then I wept

01:46:05.260 --> 01:46:06.920
because there were no more worlds to conquer

01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:09.319
sort of thing. It was like, oh, now what? Oh,

01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:12.739
now. Kind of like what they say with Horus, if

01:46:12.739 --> 01:46:16.159
he were to win the Horus heresy, chaos would

01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:19.399
consume itself in civil war and then eradicate

01:46:19.399 --> 01:46:21.039
itself from the realm. And then that would be

01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:24.060
a cataclysm that would stop chaos. But then maybe

01:46:24.060 --> 01:46:26.539
from a fantasy perspective, it brings something

01:46:26.539 --> 01:46:29.659
else where then chaos goes, oh, I understand

01:46:29.659 --> 01:46:32.199
we need to have someone to fight in order to

01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:35.079
propagate. Oh, we'll resurrect the characters

01:46:35.079 --> 01:46:37.640
or we'll do a ritual or we'll do something to

01:46:37.640 --> 01:46:41.199
try and like... prolong our campaigns because

01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:47.199
if we if we win we lose let's start again it

01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:49.119
could have been also quite cool like towards

01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:51.979
the very end like basically the good guys you

01:46:51.979 --> 01:46:54.819
know was it a force of order sorry uh they end

01:46:54.819 --> 01:46:58.079
up doing right quite well but again it's an unending

01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:00.560
tide of demons and the fact is like chaos thinks

01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:02.340
it's basically inevitably going to win so they

01:47:02.340 --> 01:47:05.100
just so as chaos should always do in the end

01:47:05.100 --> 01:47:07.680
as the world is dying they just turn on each

01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:09.880
other like that should have been a bit like just

01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.279
it's a small note but like it's an important

01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:16.020
one to show you like the great game never ends

01:47:16.020 --> 01:47:17.899
and that's the whole point like the fact they

01:47:17.899 --> 01:47:20.020
turn each other in the end allows the ritual

01:47:20.020 --> 01:47:23.659
to go off and then like in some way it means

01:47:23.659 --> 01:47:26.380
like it was a you know we've we know we failed

01:47:26.380 --> 01:47:30.079
successfully kind of thing yeah i wouldn't complain

01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:32.460
if throg didn't kill sigwald and then pee on

01:47:32.460 --> 01:47:35.949
him I like that. That was a little unnecessary.

01:47:36.130 --> 01:47:40.710
Epic, epic. He deserves it. He absolutely deserves

01:47:40.710 --> 01:47:44.289
that fate. Oh no, it's the R word guy who gets

01:47:44.289 --> 01:47:48.869
immediately killed by a troll. I love it. And

01:47:48.869 --> 01:47:52.630
Mike says that the Lady of the Lake was sacrificed

01:47:52.630 --> 01:47:56.029
by Nagash or something. I think she was. Oh yeah,

01:47:56.090 --> 01:47:57.989
that was the Fae Enchantress. That's what happens

01:47:57.989 --> 01:48:00.819
to her. And the Lady of the Lake was Lilith.

01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:04.720
He said Lokir fell hard, got drowned by a god.

01:48:05.619 --> 01:48:07.899
I thought he might have been, but he was probably

01:48:07.899 --> 01:48:10.560
like when the Avatar of Mothlan died, he sank

01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:12.619
like half of Tyrion's fleet, so I'm assuming

01:48:12.619 --> 01:48:15.960
Lokir was in that mess. It would be cool if the

01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:19.279
Bretonnians and wood elves died together. If

01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:22.000
the wood elves let them come to Athel Loren for

01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:24.420
a little bit and they fought together, I would

01:48:24.420 --> 01:48:25.399
have liked that. And then the Bretonnians said,

01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:27.239
never thought I'd be dying by the side of an

01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:30.489
elf. How about by the side of a tenuous friend?

01:48:30.590 --> 01:48:35.229
A garlic peasant. The wood elves are the nicest

01:48:35.229 --> 01:48:37.430
to the Bretonnians of all the humans, so I don't

01:48:37.430 --> 01:48:39.630
know. Would've been cool if we got to see Aberration,

01:48:39.770 --> 01:48:45.510
the Green Knight, Gilly Breton. Or Orion obliterate

01:48:45.510 --> 01:48:48.430
some dudes. No, Orion got obliterated instead.

01:48:49.010 --> 01:48:53.270
He got Tyrion'd. Duh, deserved though, that guy

01:48:53.270 --> 01:48:58.979
is so ugly. Bruh. Hal hates ugly people. Yeah.

01:49:00.619 --> 01:49:04.659
That's why I like you guys. My handsome kings.

01:49:05.939 --> 01:49:10.659
I'm joking, I'm joking. Oh my gosh. Crazy. That

01:49:10.659 --> 01:49:16.439
being said though, we had models? We saw some

01:49:16.439 --> 01:49:20.399
models, didn't we? I got you. Give us some donuts

01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:23.890
as well after that. We do. uh so many of the

01:49:23.890 --> 01:49:25.829
week i'll start with my one uh gotta add some

01:49:25.829 --> 01:49:30.250
space marines um let me just take that off so

01:49:30.250 --> 01:49:36.569
my mini of the week is this celestial lions because

01:49:36.569 --> 01:49:39.170
they're i like the contrast and this is why i

01:49:39.170 --> 01:49:44.569
love them they i like i like the the clean gold

01:49:44.569 --> 01:49:47.750
with shiny bits i'm like a magpie i'm like oh

01:49:47.750 --> 01:49:50.390
shiny i also like the guy with the heavy bolter

01:49:50.390 --> 01:49:53.279
has like the um What are they called? The heavy

01:49:53.279 --> 01:49:57.979
Primaris helmet. What are they called? Gravis.

01:49:58.699 --> 01:50:01.659
He's got the Gravis helmet just to, like, extenuate.

01:50:01.699 --> 01:50:04.199
He's got the chonky gun. And one of them is like,

01:50:04.279 --> 01:50:07.119
I got a Thunder Hammer and a plasma pistol. Lol.

01:50:08.539 --> 01:50:14.319
He's put the... He's put... That's on the assault

01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:18.300
intercessor sprue, I think. But he's put it on

01:50:18.300 --> 01:50:20.260
the... He put guns on the assault one, so the

01:50:20.260 --> 01:50:23.050
little, like... sort of hit pads sort of thing

01:50:23.050 --> 01:50:25.250
isn't there which is nice to add a bit there

01:50:25.250 --> 01:50:29.489
that's cool yeah cool guys what is that what's

01:50:29.489 --> 01:50:30.989
the shoulder pad and he's got on the far left

01:50:30.989 --> 01:50:35.470
one is that a mark uh oh with the studs yeah

01:50:35.470 --> 01:50:38.890
like yeah it's another hh1 yeah yeah it's cool

01:50:38.890 --> 01:50:44.729
nice uh then the next one this one is from uh

01:50:44.729 --> 01:50:51.779
summoner of the counts oh boy Yeah. It's a lizard

01:50:51.779 --> 01:50:56.140
fan. How did the freaking Lizardmen lose in End

01:50:56.140 --> 01:51:00.560
Times when this MF exists, bro? Like, what the

01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:02.579
heck? This is one of the coolest models they

01:51:02.579 --> 01:51:07.000
got for Age of Sigmar. What happens to him in

01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.680
End Times? Oh, he decides he's done being dead.

01:51:10.340 --> 01:51:13.819
So he just comes back. And then he dies again.

01:51:15.140 --> 01:51:19.840
Lizard god, but they lose to moon. I also want

01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:22.060
to clarify, it's not necromancy, he's just like,

01:51:22.159 --> 01:51:24.560
no, I'm not dead anymore, and reality obliges.

01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:28.420
I reject your reality and substitute my own,

01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:33.220
says Croak. Doesn't other big fat guy hold up

01:51:33.220 --> 01:51:35.680
the moon for a while? He doesn't hold it up,

01:51:35.699 --> 01:51:38.800
but he destroys the largest fragments and redirects

01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:40.760
them onto Lustria, so the rest of the world has

01:51:40.760 --> 01:51:45.850
a few more years, basically. He also has Mazda

01:51:45.850 --> 01:51:48.449
Mundi. Yeah, he has the saddest death. He tries

01:51:48.449 --> 01:51:51.729
to crawl to the top of his own pyramid to feel

01:51:51.729 --> 01:51:53.970
the sun on his face one more time and can't make

01:51:53.970 --> 01:51:57.369
it. Why did you need to do that? What was the

01:51:57.369 --> 01:52:01.470
point of that? I'm just sad now. Just let me

01:52:01.470 --> 01:52:04.869
die, Walter. I'm just gonna die. Lizardmen are

01:52:04.869 --> 01:52:08.149
the best at fighting chaos. Why would he sacrifice

01:52:08.149 --> 01:52:12.779
the Lizardmen? Because the Skaven had overrun.

01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.260
The reason he did it was to get a bunch of Skaven

01:52:15.260 --> 01:52:17.560
killed because their wards were all focused on

01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:21.539
demons, not rats. The demons are trying to get

01:52:21.539 --> 01:52:25.500
in. They're the final defenders and they weren't

01:52:25.500 --> 01:52:29.340
around for the final part. Unbelievable. That's

01:52:29.340 --> 01:52:31.180
why they lost because they weren't there to do

01:52:31.180 --> 01:52:33.840
the defend. This is an awesome Lord Croke model.

01:52:34.399 --> 01:52:39.300
One of the... One of the Lizardmen should have

01:52:39.300 --> 01:52:42.539
been one of the incarns of the magic. Give it

01:52:42.539 --> 01:52:45.619
to Lord Croak, make him even more OP. Or Kropgar.

01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:49.300
Yeah, I want to see Kropgar body some MFs. Like,

01:52:49.300 --> 01:52:53.979
frick. With the mini, I do like the stonework.

01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:56.300
I like the, like, this is a really little thing.

01:52:56.380 --> 01:52:59.479
I like the little trees and the, like, growth

01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:01.119
on the base of the model where there's, like,

01:53:01.199 --> 01:53:04.159
you can tell it's a nice little bit. It contrasts

01:53:04.159 --> 01:53:06.380
nicely with the more, like, ostentatious gilded

01:53:06.380 --> 01:53:10.779
bits. Alien 3 on the right hand side there. Yeah.

01:53:11.020 --> 01:53:14.600
Is the one beside him the fantasy version of

01:53:14.600 --> 01:53:19.199
Lord Croak? I don't know. I like him. I like

01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:24.539
that one a lot. They're very good. Nice. This

01:53:24.539 --> 01:53:30.420
one's from Mini Acrylics. Damn. I didn't pick

01:53:30.420 --> 01:53:33.659
this one for a change. That was me. You know

01:53:33.659 --> 01:53:37.119
what? I like it. i i like both i like the paint

01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:40.020
job and white being done well always impresses

01:53:40.020 --> 01:53:43.159
me uh this is a very well done guy i thought

01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:45.020
you'd appreciate that andy he's very well done

01:53:45.020 --> 01:53:47.140
especially i love the lightning stripe honestly

01:53:47.140 --> 01:53:49.180
i was gonna see the scribbly wibbly white leg

01:53:49.180 --> 01:53:52.420
very very nice lines this is this is some good

01:53:52.420 --> 01:53:55.020
stuff how do you guys do this this is really

01:53:55.020 --> 01:54:00.039
yeah dude It takes me four hours to put black

01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:03.220
paint on my Tau Fireworks and not get it on the

01:54:03.220 --> 01:54:08.000
detailed parts. This is some king shit. Lovely

01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:12.880
detail on the crotch bones and the relic. Where's

01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:16.340
the safest place to hang this? Right here. It

01:54:16.340 --> 01:54:19.020
is like, other than hiding the shmeet, it's like

01:54:19.020 --> 01:54:25.359
perfectly done there. Like, what is it? Words.

01:54:26.670 --> 01:54:29.289
The background of the key where it's dark in

01:54:29.289 --> 01:54:31.909
there, it's not just solid gold, which I probably

01:54:31.909 --> 01:54:34.430
would have left it as and just put Agrax Earthshade

01:54:34.430 --> 01:54:37.130
in it or something. That is some good stuff.

01:54:39.869 --> 01:54:45.289
Enjoyable. On the power fist. And this one's

01:54:45.289 --> 01:54:48.010
a house pick, I believe. And there's several

01:54:48.010 --> 01:54:50.189
of these, so I only picked three because there's

01:54:50.189 --> 01:54:55.829
actually quite a few of these. St. Wagons. Yes.

01:54:55.829 --> 01:55:01.569
He's gone for a, I think I might have seen, there's

01:55:01.569 --> 01:55:05.310
a guy, someone on YouTube, is it Miniatures of

01:55:05.310 --> 01:55:07.149
Heresy, Heresy Miniatures or something? He did

01:55:07.149 --> 01:55:12.789
some similar stuff, but it's a really, I bet

01:55:12.789 --> 01:55:14.850
on the tabletop, that looks really, really striking.

01:55:16.109 --> 01:55:21.430
Very cool synth wave, Death Guard. Again, that's

01:55:21.430 --> 01:55:24.380
not too crazy to do, but like, in a way like

01:55:24.380 --> 01:55:27.840
as a whole unit he added in like a nice unifying

01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:31.199
like sort of color that particularly on like

01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:33.279
the blue highlights he's put them through like

01:55:33.279 --> 01:55:36.960
bits of fire or bits like guts and teeth so it's

01:55:36.960 --> 01:55:38.739
quite nice like just having something simple

01:55:38.739 --> 01:55:41.899
and yet probably looks really good together and

01:55:41.899 --> 01:55:46.380
yeah great job man um nice use of the airbrush

01:55:46.380 --> 01:55:52.050
i think hell yeah So many variants as well. There's

01:55:52.050 --> 01:55:57.090
so many. His mythic blight holder is very smooth.

01:55:59.729 --> 01:56:03.310
Like a fire. It must be like UV paint, I think,

01:56:03.449 --> 01:56:06.069
on some of these parts. Because if that's just

01:56:06.069 --> 01:56:09.489
normal lighting, that's very smooth. Holy cow.

01:56:09.930 --> 01:56:12.449
Look at the glow effect on that base. On all

01:56:12.449 --> 01:56:14.829
these bases. What the heck? How do you do that?

01:56:15.109 --> 01:56:17.640
How do you do that? I guess it's just spray.

01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:21.899
Wizardry. That is UV paint. That is cool myself,

01:56:22.039 --> 01:56:25.420
man. Thanks. It's not quite UV, but it's... Oh,

01:56:25.420 --> 01:56:29.960
maybe it is. It's giving that vibe. That is the...

01:56:29.960 --> 01:56:32.680
What's the guy called again? The Tally Man? Yeah.

01:56:33.039 --> 01:56:37.319
Very cool. Nice. Nice stuff. Hell yeah, guys.

01:56:37.720 --> 01:56:42.149
We also have a question of the week. And who

01:56:42.149 --> 01:56:44.550
was it who was looking through last week's? Was

01:56:44.550 --> 01:56:50.670
that Hal? I was looking through... Where am I?

01:56:51.250 --> 01:56:55.329
Oh, yes. We had some from our last one. I don't

01:56:55.329 --> 01:56:57.329
remember what our last question of the week was.

01:56:57.550 --> 01:56:59.470
I don't remember what it was. It was hashtag

01:56:59.470 --> 01:57:03.369
usurper. I don't remember the exact question,

01:57:03.409 --> 01:57:07.090
annoyingly, though. What was our episode on?

01:57:07.210 --> 01:57:11.729
I'll go check very quickly. It was for our...

01:57:11.729 --> 01:57:16.250
Come on, internet. Love you guys. It was for

01:57:16.250 --> 01:57:18.810
our... Could the Grey Knights actually enact

01:57:18.810 --> 01:57:24.010
the Terminus Decree? Does anyone remember off

01:57:24.010 --> 01:57:27.829
the top of our head what that was? I think it

01:57:27.829 --> 01:57:30.829
might have been how people would have... How

01:57:30.829 --> 01:57:32.069
would you got him off the throne, basically.

01:57:32.090 --> 01:57:33.989
How would you take out the Emperor, essentially.

01:57:34.010 --> 01:57:40.449
The first one is by... At BenisDD, he says, hashtag

01:57:40.449 --> 01:57:44.250
usurper, some elbow grease, a blunt instrument,

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and a talisman of seven hammers, and I'm going

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to hit like a very volatile gong. That I'm going

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to hit like a very volatile gong. Crazy work

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there. Elbow grease is hilarious. The next one

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was by someone who had this episode. 27. Hashtag

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usurper. I would reveal that he actually is Alpharius

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on the Golden Throne, the real emperor having

01:58:15.260 --> 01:58:19.079
left to get interdimensional smokes after leaving

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Horus in charge of this great crusade. And then

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his returned emperor must send out to learn about

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and fix everything that has gone wrong since

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he's been away. Literally, a guy's like, want

01:58:32.590 --> 01:58:34.270
to buy some death sticks? And the Emperor's like,

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you don't want to sell me death sticks. Throw

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one out for cigarettes and milk. The next one

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was by TheRamblingPainter1116. Hashtag usurper.

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I would convince the custodians I've discovered

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an STC that creates an item capable of fixing

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anything in the universe and goes up to the throne

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with a chainsaw and, in quotes, I soared... this

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god in half and fixed it with only flex tape

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and it doesn't work because it's not medical

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grade wow they kind of did that in the hammer

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and bolter episode where there's like a castellan

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and a tech priest and they just find this thing

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is like it can just repair the castellan completely

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even though it's been hacked to death by an orc

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and then it's like don't worry i'm sure there's

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another one on the planet so what do you mean

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there's another one of those on the what do you

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mean That seems really important. What does he

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mean by this? The next one is by a resident law

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criminal, Mr. Biggest Squiggin4482. Hashtag usurper.

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I would team up with Jeremy the G -Skiller Neophyte.

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He'd solo Captain Archeon, Chiron, and the rest

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of their force. Jeremy's the only one who can

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duel the Emperor and win. Jeremy the Genestealer

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Neophyte. The hero. Who's a... Who's a... Gazkul's

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little friend again. Oh, Nakari. Nakari. That

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is the only person I would send to go kill him.

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Just a random... If he rolls a six into a six,

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he's fine. I'm still waiting for a Macari and

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Red Gobbo buddy cop movie, because that'd be

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fun. It's like teaming up. And we have a... We

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need a question of the week this week, guys.

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And it's hashtag end times, I believe. Yes, which

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is... We spent a whole episode fixing the end

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times. You guys need to help us. Yeah, how would

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you fix the end times? And it can be a wacky

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answer. Give us some ideas. Yeah, it could be

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that, you know... Archeon just ends up committing

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seppuku and they have to wait five seasons until

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the next one. I just drop in Kato Sicarius and

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it'll work out fine. Done. Him or Malum Kaido,

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you're done. Easy. Archeon dies and then the

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next one, who I'd affectionately named Oppenheimer,

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ends up discovering a new method on competing

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the end times. Have we done Warhammer versus

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Warhammer? Like a Space Marine chapter gets put

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on Warhammer Fantasy. What happens? That was

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almost this episode, to be fair. Yeah. Maybe

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we can do that in the future. But before we end,

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I suppose we should go through the last of the

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donations for the day. To start us off, we got

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Sigman7077. 777 for five. Colin, I reread Giant

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Slayer recently. Why have you never mentioned

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the pleasure slaves at the High Elves ship to

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Ulfwan? They have a slaves. That probably wasn't

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willing. Damn. Don't worry about it. Don't worry

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about it. All the way. Green hat in five weeks.

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Same with two. I and all three fans wish AOS

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lore impacted Underworld. Yeah, man. Hey, maybe

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when you get a fourth fan for Underworld, finally

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it'll have some impact. I just realised Ulthuan

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is like the island. If you know what I mean.

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Okay. What do you mean just now? What? No, but

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as in, it's the island and then the Ulthuan files.

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Oh, god damn it. Redacted. In coming back up,

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thank you for the 30 shekels. No need to fix

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what's already perfect, but seriously, fix it.

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The end times is kind of hard because it was

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inevitably change AOS unless you go fully alternate

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timeline -wise. I feel like it could be done.

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I think you could keep it mostly the same. There's

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a lot of shit writing you can trim. Yeah. Just

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might as well that old internet meme of this

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is the ultimate showdown. The most innocuous

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character would be the one who makes it through

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to the end. How? How did you do this? Sheesh.

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A big one here from Pyre. Do you want to read

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this one, Hal? Oh, thank you, man. For 20 bucks.

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Jesus, thank you, man. Putting this towards an

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eventual Yanari video from Colin, or you all

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may be in this stream's style. Because the Horned

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King's Riders from the Chronicles of Prydain?

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are still a cool idea. God, what they could have

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been. I don't want to read those books, though.

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I don't want to read the Inari books. They're

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bad. But we will someday, I guess. Eli, do you

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want to read this other large one? Thank you

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very much for 20. Nice lizard PFP. You boys are

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the reason I have a Skaven army. Nice. I have

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over 120 clan rats painted. Funny as it is, when

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I rock up to a table to play, love your work,

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keep it up. That's crazy. I can never paint 120.

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Yeah, what's your carry case, bro? What's your

02:04:19.380 --> 02:04:22.359
method? A container, probably. How do you carry

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that? Extra medium for five. How slash Andy.

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Glad to see you've recovered from the yellow

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fever slash shark bites you got from Colleen's

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road trip. Explain. We were on a road trip. What

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does he mean by this? Colin did not bite us.

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We weren't on a road trip. Last time we were...

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I was out of town. Yeah, unless you're confusing

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me with Crackduck and Hal with someone, Millbell

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maybe. Yellow Fever. I don't think anyone got

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Yellow Fever or Shark Bites. I got Scarlet Fever

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last year. That was fun. Who wants this one?

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at the threshold. God, I really struggled. Seth

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Reynolds? Seth Reynolds, yeah. Seth is my told.

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I can't read words well. 10 Australian. Thanks,

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man. First time listening live. Tune in and Colin's

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alarm is blaring and he's gone white hot rant

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about the end times and Manbrick. Classic. Thank

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you for tuning in. I imagine it's early out there.

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Prime1Jr, thank you for the $5. Maybe the real

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end times was the favorite characters who died

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bullshit deaths along the way. That is UW writing.

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That is the real end times. And the last one.

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Jay Townsend. Oh, sure. Oh, there's more lore.

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So thank you for the 10 Australians. So in keeping

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up with the Australia lore, I just went onto

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a customer's property with a co -worker. I was

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like, oh, that's a big dog curled up on her porch.

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Turns out it was a big -ass kangaroo. Wild country.

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What a wild place. Yeah. Well, we hope you all

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enjoyed our tackling of the end times and a bit

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of a departure from the... your 40k stuff uh

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because as we all know colin loves space marine

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law so we'll be sure to get back to that um but

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yeah let us know what you how you would tackle

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the end times with hashtag end time in the chat

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and other than that i guess we'll all see you

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guys later bye