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We decided we don't need to teach people lore
today. We need to discuss some heinous ideas.
We need to discuss some heresy, boys. We need
to kill the Emperor. We need to kill the Emperor
of Mankind. Eli was gagging in his seat for this
topic. Was I? Yeah, and he is so gassed because
we're going to explore today how we could actually
theoretically enact the Terminus Decree by the
Grey Knights, of course. They don't need much
introduction, but we will, for the uninitiated,
maybe explain a little bit. Andy, do you want
to give a really brief rundown of Grey Knights?
Because it's not an episode about them. But it
is. But we need to discuss how they're going
to do the funny in this episode. Well, the Grey
Knights are essentially an elite band of space
marines who are all descended not from the gene
seed of a Primarch, but from the Emperor himself.
So they all have a little bit of big E in them.
And every single Grey Knight is a psyker and
a very strong one at that. And even though, for
example, every... Grey Knight is a Psyker. They're
not necessarily a Librarian. So a Librarian in
the Grey Knights is like an uber Psyker. And
a normal Grey Knight is basically comparable
to like any Space Marine Librarian. They're kind
of like, what if we put the Thousand Suns on
steroids? Because as good as a Psyker as Magnus
was, these guys are descended from the Emperor.
So they are like uber Psyker. They're like super
duper elite soldiers. And their job is to root
out chaos, chaos, incursions and demonic stuff
across the universe. They are like, if it takes
a million, one in a million to become a space
Marine, it's like one in a billion. Come a great
night. And they're pretty cool. They're pretty
cool. I like them. They're lovely. Yeah. They're
pretty, they, uh, they have their little fortress
monastery on Titan, the moon. And, uh, I mean,
very briefly, there's some stuff where they're
founded by Malkador and the Emperor during the
Horus Heresy, all that good stuff. Man proceeded
to grab the moon and put it, like, hide the moon.
Not like Despicable Me for all the, you know,
40 -year -old mums out there. He just grabbed
the moon, hid it, and when they emerged, they
emerged as this new, is it the 666th chapter
or something they call themselves? Yeah, for
fun. Yeah, why not? And they're pretty, again,
they're all psychers, though, in this chapter.
They are all psychers. They have incredibly powerful
weapons. All that good stuff. Their names are
derived from demon entities so that they can
use them against demonic kinds. So they're like,
oh, what's your name? And it's kind of like how
Dark Angels have, like, there's two Azraels,
because why wouldn't there be? There's one during
the Siege of Drax. And it's like, that's not
Azrael. That's Azrael. But Grey Knights is more
like we have power over the demons because we
use their lore against them. It's kind of fun.
And yeah, they're pretty fun. I like them. The
cool part about Grey Knights as well is that
as a group of slikers, they're trained to be
more powerful in proximity to each other. So
they're able... I mean, they've had a few good
feats. They've banished Angron like a hundred
times at this point. Thanks, Possum. You're welcome.
Cheers, man. He says thanks for the feet pics.
There were no feet pics. I have no legs. It's
fine. It's just tentacles, as clearly our avatars
represent. Cool thing about Grey Knights is as
a character, we're not going over the entire
faction. This is more about pertaining to the
infamous thing called the Terminus Decree. Eli,
do you want to explain a little bit about the
history? Not the exact Terminus Decree. I've
got my codex here and I can read it out, but
do you want to explain a little? history about
this thing because it's kind of it's the history
of the terminus decree you mean like outside
of like just all the changes and stuff to it
like what do you mean well like it was just mysterious
wasn't it it was an unknown it's an unknown decree
that they've revealed recently and it was very
controversial when they uh revealed it as of
uh what the latest great knights codex All right.
Before we could you tell us before we knew what
it was, why it was such a I guess what would
the word be like a tantalizing prospect of like
why was it the Grey Knights for so long had this
thing that everyone's like, I wonder what that's
about. And then a lot of people have recently
been like, oh, it's ruined because it was cool.
And now it's not like what was the what was the
like pre reveal of what it was? What was so special
about this thing? i don't actually know i don't
i don't i read i'm not i'm not a i'm not a space
marine enjoyer in the first place i don't know
the intricacies there weren't intricacies but
like it was just like oh what was the the nuts
and bolts of like it's just like it's the emergency
like top level uh sort of doomsday button that
if the whatever mystery event happens they would
enact the terminus decree is the last resort
like that's kind of it really like it wasn't
yeah i don't know if i think people had theories
for a long time like because it like what could
it possibly have been like um i don't know if
i even had i come up so on my own before but
a lot basically people been theorizing about
this supposed termless decree for many many years
in the community they left it as a secret i don't
know if eli is more of the opinion of like they
shouldn't have said anything you know i i honestly
i like didn't really care that much to me to
be totally honest the great knights have been
like uh thrown around like a sack of potatoes
for their lore since like third or second or
third edition and onwards they've changed so
much they even did a little pastiche on this
with space king where their equivalent of the
terminus decree was oh they made a female psycho
warrior therefore all the chapters of psycho
warriors converge to destroy it because no girls
allowed and that was their like that was their
little reference to like oh the doomsday has
come their equivalent of the term is terminus
decree is like oh no woman like oh no i guess
i guess one could say Like the Grey Knights killing
the Emperor as their doomsday button is kind
of stupid sounding. But other than that, I don't
really care. I don't know. Well, I think it's
fair to say that in very simple terms, it's like
their charge was just making sure he doesn't
get off the chair. So stay on the throne. Never
leave the throne. Our mission is you do not under
any circumstance get off the throne because when
we were established from the Knights Errant.
we were made to combat chaos and when we were
established um we were in like a vigil and then
when we got out of our little like bubble in
space it was like oh now the emperor's on the
throne so all we know is he's always on the throne
therefore keep him on the throne because that's
all we know surely that's a good idea and to
be fair the implications are If he comes off
the throne, maybe he's reborn into the, like,
star child. Or maybe demons will infest the Imperial
Palace and kill everyone on Terra. So that's,
like, quite a balance of risk. Yeah. Well, speaking
of clarity, I, as a man who is also afraid of
women and play Grey Knights, I have the Grey
Knights Codex. And I do, in fact, have the Terminus
Decree, the infamous one that's been revealed.
And I'll read it out just so we can establish
the lines for this episode, which is... Here
we go. It is the Terminus Decree. Held in a simple
wooden box that only the Supreme Grand Master
may open, the Terminus Decree details the Emperor's
final command to the Grey Knights Chapter. The
Master of Mankind... can never be allowed to
leave the Golden Throne. Either return to life,
reborn in another's body, or ascend as some kind
of warp entity. And if he does, the Grey Knights
must return him to his terrible duty. Indeed,
they were created with a possibility of this
event in mind, a task beyond the abilities of
any other force in the Imperium. The Decree offers
no guidance on how such feats might be achieved.
For it is neither a weapon nor a magic formula.
Rather, the Grey Knights would themselves be
the weapon on such a desperate day that one would
likely have to cut a path through the ranks of
the custodian guard and many others to see its
duty done. That is the Terminus Decree. And supposedly
only the Grandmasters know this. So this is the
premise that... i guess set off the kind of talk
ever since we found out about this because everyone
thought this might be the stupidest idea i've
ever heard or how could they possibly even achieve
this because yeah uh well yeah we we will and
we will establish the defenses they have to go
through like next but i would say like as initial
reaction i didn't hate the idea because it like
i don't know what else could match like a a termless
decree level event i don't know how else they
could have topped that i don't know like if there
was any good alternative really but the idea
of like they just have to make sure the emperor
stays on the golden throne it's a cool concept
but i genuinely think the practicalities might
be a bit beyond them but we're going to discuss
how they could do it because i think it could
be a quite funny uh scenario in the end did you
guys have any thoughts like did you also think
it was a bit Like, is there a better example
of a Terms to Creed rather than basically shelf
the Emperor back on his wheelchair? It's not
quite the same, but it does give me mirrors of,
like, the Last Wall Protocol, where the Imperial
Fists have that thing where it's, oh, if ever
shit really hits the fan, we've all got to assemble
all of our successors to try and help out. And
that's the only thing I can think of that's kind
of similar in, like, Last Gambit. I have no other
choice. We have to do this if needed. But I can't
think of anything that has such a cataclysmic
outcome as the Terminus Decree because it's the
Emperor we're talking about. The Emperor is humanity.
If the Emperor dies, you're screwed because he's
literally all there is left to a certain extent.
What about you, Eli? I mean, it sounds dumb.
I'm not going to lie. Like, Malkador was thinking
about this when he made the Grey Knights, and
it was like part of why he made the Grey Knights,
to keep his best friend in eternal damnation
forever. Like, what a jerk. Well, to be fair,
Malkador didn't know that he was going to get
wounded by Horus. So I suppose, because when
Malkador was alive, he was like, oh, the Emperor
is sitting on the throne. He's okay. He didn't
have his arm cut off. He wasn't impaired by the
talent of Horus. He was managing to cope pretty
well. So I guess at the time, maybe he was like,
oh, well, I didn't expect that the Emperor would
be whatever this thing is. Cue picture of the
Emperor looking like a prune. So with the information
he had, maybe it wasn't such a bad fate. It does
stay. it is the emperor's final command to the
grey knights so it doesn't imply that it came
from the emperor which is and it would have been
before he went to fight horus as well it would
have been before he went to the vengeful spirit
and it says with the possibility like this they
were the grenades were made with the possibility
of this event in mind so it's not saying the
only reason but if if he had to be kept from
the throne he that the custodians were basically
no good for this task. They wouldn't do it. They
wouldn't fight the Emperor unless it's ending
the death part three stuff where they get corrupted
by chaos. That's the first time. That's interesting.
Yay. Yeah, that looks pretty... It's a pretty
big task for the Grey Knights. They've got a
few things to get through, though, don't they,
Andy? Which is, we should probably talk about...
like who's guarding the emperor because obviously
the emperor is just sitting on the golden throne
it's a vast chamber but he sits in a nice uh
the comfiest gothic cathedral you've ever seen
the imperial palace do you want to talk a little
bit about the imperial palace andy because it's
uh it's a big boy Well, the Imperial Palace,
I think it's worth mentioning the book Cypher,
because that book does a great job of bringing
context into what it's like to be there in the
41st millennium. It's not a nice place by any
means. There are people who spend their entire
life savings to go visit the Golden Throne so
that they might bask in the Emperor's glow for
a few seconds before they kind of. perish with
their last ebbs of strength after working in
the mines for 70 years um terror is a fortress
as much as it is a palace you've got the custodian
guard of course who are the main companions of
the emperor who defend him but there's also the
planetary defense force there's the imperial
fists who recruit primarily from there and necromunda
and a few other planets There's the Lucifer Blacks
or what's left of them. There's the Assassinorum.
There's all these things that are involved in
terror. But it's kind of maddening. At least
in the Cypher book, it explains about how he's
trying to infiltrate. Basically, the story of
the Cypher book is the Dark Angels are pursuing
Cypher. And so Cypher has a few fallen angels
with him. And so the Dark Angels are covertly
trying to track Cypher. on the throne world without
being discovered by the custodians because they
know they know they'll get crunked if the if
the custodians spot the dark angels committing
heresy on the throne world it's a bad deal all
around so they're trying to secretly hunt down
the fallen which is really difficult to do in
the backyard of the most powerful man ever alive
and it's a case of um Everyone is trying to destroy
the Dark Angels rather than the Fallen because
the Fallen are a bit more clandestine and good
at it. But they pull out all the stops in order
to stop them. And it's one of those kind of micro
-Badab war loyalist -on -loyalist aggression,
which is interesting. But no one other than the
Traitor Legions has ever tried a Puron assault
where they just go hammer blow, attack the...
the capital it's more we've it's always been
secret clandestine missions of small bands rather
than a full army so we've never quite seen other
than like what just in the throne where the minotaurs
and the custodians and the imperial fists were
combating the cornet legions other than that
we haven't really seen like a big full -scale
assault of the imperial palace and that was demons
so it's fair game we should say as like the custodians
just on a map could again like they're worth
about more than ten space marines as in like
that's just my theory in terms of combat abilities
that's standing in the way there is they are
called the 10 000. uh they they might have lost
a few numbers since then a few of them are out
on crusade on indomitus as well so there's some
numbers out but we also say like beneath terror
as well like in that cypher book It's an absolute
maze. Like it explains how the custodians, they
are the only ones who really know like the entire
kind of complex that is like, I mean, you're
talking about like every capital city on our
world, like stacked on top of each other and
then double it and give it to the next guy. Like
it's, it's enormous. And we should also say the
first problem is blood games. because because
the custodians are known does anyone want to
explain what blood games are do you know what
blood games are you though the uh the custodians
custodians get naked and oiled up and they hey
yo yo what it's a different kind of game and
they do their jojo poses all over the palace
they it's a game where the custodians try to
basically kill the emperor to my to my knowledge
and then you have to try to stop each other and
whoever whoever can outsmart all the imperial
palace defenses and whatnot uh i don't i don't
know if there's an official winner or not but
um basically they try their best to infiltrate
the palace and kill the emperor to find all the
security any possible security issues with the
last person i knew who got the clothes this was
rar in dimian he got like within the same room
as the emperor he tried to attack him and then
he was like thwarted because and like even though
the emperor didn't lift a finger to stop him
the valdor was like he would have just he knew
you were there like he was he was humoring you
at that point but you're the closest anyone's
ever got and he was kind of lost among terror
for about three four months just probing defenses
trying to figure out how to get in using like
a like a projection field to make himself seem
like more small scale than he's actually a lot
of people like how can a nine foot tall custodian
pretend to be a normal person they use like refractor
fields and stuff to make themselves look smaller
he pretends to be an ab human with a hunched
posture so he looks more like an ogren or something
similar and it's like yeah they're not they're
not just i'm just gonna grab my halberd and jump
at him they're quite clever they use like even
ammon in that trial this is a toxin which basically
puts his body in like a death -like state to
get through the scanners that like scan for like
infiltrators so that his heart rate is low enough
that it doesn't trigger the alarms and then he
wakes up and say okay off i go to kill dad and
um yeah like they're not by any means brute forcing
it they're always doing everything they can to
undermine the defenses because if they know where
the weaknesses are they can plug the gaps i think
even in games yeah he did yeah that's how his
primark book goes out i think he killed the custodians
which is and then shoves in the barrel yeah very
like two unarmed word bearers kill a custodian
i know but like alfarius when he was on their
side killed the custodians which is kind of crazy
yeah baldor was not too happy with him after
that he understood the necessity but he was like
yeah maybe might be a dumb question i've never
thought about it until this second can they still
make custodians yeah yeah it is completely i
don't know how it's a complete mystery uh they
their process is never revealed but they can
like okay weird it seems like it that seems like
a uh uh contradiction with what you would expect
the trouble is at the beginning of the horus
heresy there are 10 the 10 000 by the end of
the horus heresy there's like 9 000 dead so you've
got to build up the numbers and it wasn't easy
as far as i can tell but we don't fundamentally
know how a custodian all we know about how a
custodian is made is that they are so tailor
-made it takes like a shitload of resources you
need like an entire like cast of maybe thousands
of Biomancers, Sorcerers, Trainers, Bioengineers,
whatever they use to make one person. Which is
why it's weird that it's still around, that it's
still possible. But the thing is, you could probably
use those same resources to make an entire Space
Marine chapter, and if you can only deploy one
superhuman per warzone, you could have a thousand
superhumans, and you could have multiple warzones
across the galaxy. So it's like, it's it's like
oh they and i think they've rebuilt to the 10
000 again in current setting but they are just
like if if if space marines are one in a thousand
and grey knights are one in them or space marines
are one in a million because uh grey knights
are one in a billion and then custodians i guess
are one in a trillion like they are very rare
because although we should say there's more custodians
and there are grey knights at the moment yeah
all of this lore is so like weird and messed
up as as the custodian topic they are there is
they lost a few of them a few i think thousand
even after the so -called second seizure terror
thing and yeah like after the um after the uh
the great rift opened that some of them are on
indomitus they're a big problem uh you know they're
incredibly deadly and there's quite a lot of
them they know the palace defense is pretty extremely
well and supposedly if the emperor is probably
rising up or whatever is happening to the emperor
that they have to act they probably don't have
much time so that's probably their first hurdle
i think before we go any further should we get
to the first round of donations yeah the next
slight problem we have in the pathway here though
is the biggest problem we have the sisters of
silence now This is an entirely female order
of basically warrior monks. I guess, what's the
female version of a monk? I don't know. None.
None. They're not quite sisters of battle, but
they are all psychic blanks. They are all nulls.
And so with the Grey Knights, who are all psychers
and rely heavily on their psychic powers to essentially
boost their strength and their skills beyond
that of normal librarians. This is a big fucking
problem. There's no way around it. This is a
big problem. Not impossible to deal with, but
this is the next obstacle I would say they have
to deal with. Also, to be fair, some of them...
We should say some of them are on their black
ships across the galaxy. They are... In the 40k
time, they are a order being reformed. They were
basically... implies that they were killed slash
half destroyed by the ecclesiarchy in their history.
So obviously they're not quite at full strength.
I believe it is in the same trilogy, not the
two books. It's not Vault of Terror, Andy. It's
the other one. Watchers of the Throne. Watchers
of the Throne, yeah. That's been a hot minute
since I read that. But great books by those two.
But the POV from the Sisters of Silence character.
in the in that one is that she goes to their
fortress on luna and they're sort of rebuilding
the order at that time and like a lot of them
were summoned back to terror uh when the great
rift opened but they're not quite to full strength
so it may not be as bad as we think uh but again
if they are in as we've seen in uh any of the
horrors heresy novels particularly um a thousand
suns when prospero went kaput got stepped on,
got beaten up, got destroyed. The custodians
fought alongside the Sisters of Silence, and
they often do when they are facing those of the
nature of chaos or warped shenanigans. We should
say, though, I'll save it for the section where
we actually talk about how we think they could
do it, but that is a pretty big problem. And
the kind of last section we have to, like...
Well, the last ones before we start discussing
about how we think we could do it. We have a
section about people who have gotten the furthest
basically so far, not including, I guess, Horace,
not including Horace, who technically wounded
the emperor. We didn't get in the palace, to
be fair. He had to draw the emperor to him. No.
Eli, do you know the lore about the harlequins
and the custodians? Generally. I still haven't
read whatever book it's in. I don't even know
what book it's in. War of the Beasts. War of
the Beasts is like schizo lore. Do you want to
explain that one, Andy? Because we didn't talk
about who's gotten the closest so far to the
golden throne. It's worth mentioning that I've
heard varying degrees of... In the books, it's
stated that the custodians are absolutely wrecked.
By the Harlequins, because basically the Eldar
need to warn the Emperor or whoever is in charge
in his stead that they have a way to maybe stop
the beast. And they're like, okay, we need to
talk to whoever's in charge. And the Empyreans
are like, ugh, Xenos, yuck. So they're not really
listening to them. So they kind of have to brute
force their way to where they need to be. And
the trouble with this is that... In the books,
at least, it's stated that they kill custodians.
But then I've heard that the author meant they
were killing Lucifer Blacks, who are really elite
guard, Astra Militarum adjacent bodyguards, which
would make more sense. But then I've also heard
some people say, no, actually, it was custodians.
The author never said that. So I don't know what's
happening anymore. But it wouldn't make sense
that Harlequins could just butcher Custodians
like that. Because they're supposed to be...
Maybe, but also, like, I know from what I read
of Harlequins, they get bodied by, like, what
are they called? The Incubi. Depends on who's
writing the book and how much they like Eldar,
I guess. Warhammer. Yeah, power levels are all
over the place. I mean, in Horus Heresy, we see
unarmed Space Marine kill Custodians, which is...
Just as silly. Well, a white scar kills the custodians
in the Garrow. Custodians ain't nothing. But
every time a custodian is killed in the Horror's
Heritage books, it's by surprise. It's never
in a feat of arms. It's always, like, again,
the custodian that's killed by a traitor white
scar is like, I fought with these guys. They're
awesome. And it's like, stabbed in the back.
Like, oh. Yeah, I'm there with you, buddy. White
scars are amazing. It's cringe when they're traitors.
I'm so sorry. The guy who gets killed at the
end of... uh first heretic he does die right
he possessed yeah so you have the lore is so
inconsistent on these mfs you have two dudes
fighting off an entire army to be and then you
got one guy one losing the 1v5 to to be fair
if a space marine is equivalent of like a thousand
mortal men even in the cypher book the the dark
angels kind of gang up on a custodians because
they're trying to hunt the fallen and it's one
custodians about if memory serves it's like a
squad of dark angels so there's a librarian there's
a captain or there's a bunch of veterans and
it's like seven astartes versus one custodian
first second he kills like three of them and
then eventually he injures another one and is
brought down and even then the emperor possesses
his body because cypher gets to the threshold
of his throne room and the emperor says to cypher
like no turn back i know you want to chat with
me Not the right AFK. I'm AFK. Go away. Come
back another time. Okay, dad or granddad or whatever
he would regard him as. And yeah, custodians
aren't infallible as powerful as they are. Good
luck dueling someone who's stabbing you in the
spine. There is an element of sometimes you get
caught off guard, I suppose, or like if you're
on a, if you're on a Naval ship and it gets blown
up by a, by a Nova cannon. i don't care how good
you are with a sword you're an exploding void
craft you're done um but that said there's no
one else in the setting other than like maybe
demon princes slash greater demons and even like
then they go toe -to -toe with primarchs on occasion
so like it's kind of the cream of the crop yeah
we should say as well like if we particularly
at this point like the other people who've gone
closer like there's been ways of infiltration
but they've always been under the permission
of like the emperor like he allowed like magnus
during the heresy here like the emperor allowed
magnus in uh but we should say the imperial palace
following the siege of terror is completely like
malformed and like things are in the wrong place
so and it's long been reconstructed built upon
and layers of defenses uh we should say as well
even when they do like blood games they it's
so enormous that they uh in the watch of the
throne book they have a random iron warrior in
the beginning and they just let him free roam
just to see just to see what he would do and
then eventually the um um But we should say,
going forward now, it is... How do we do it,
boys? How do we do it? One thing I think is the
biggest hurdle is that there's 10 ,000 custodians,
and I know that the Grey Knights don't comply
exactly to the Codex Astartes, so they're like,
we're a bespoke force, we can do what we want.
But even so... They're not quite 10 ,000 space
Marines. They're probably a bit less. They have
brotherhoods, not companies. Well, I don't think
they're strict on that, but they, they don't
have 10 ,000. So they're not even like space
wolves. As far as I'm aware of, like, we don't
care. We'll have a thousand per great company.
It may be like 150, a brotherhood or something.
Let's say maybe they have. I don't know, 5 ,000
maximum. It's still not even... That's only half
of the custodians. Should we, for the purposes
of this one, stick to the rule of they can only
amass 1 ,000 of them? Just because if it's in
terms of we don't know what the numbers are,
but if they're supposedly a chapter of Space
Marines, that is what we'll give them for this
round. The question is... So the prep time on
this is they believe the emperor is going to
come off the golden throne. This can be either
two things, which is he is, as I said, either
inhabiting another body, which is like the whole
star child, like possible type, separate thing.
We're not going to go too much into that. So
he's possibly inhabiting another body, which
means that makes it a lot easier because that.
another body might not be near the golden throne
so therefore they could go hunt that down in
the galaxy just have to get there first the second
problem is if the emperor is ascending to godhood
and he is stepping off the throne which i believe
is probably the more likely case and they're
going to get somehow to the golden throne do
they start with deceit to get as far as they
can like how far do you think they can How far
do you think they can get by essentially bluffing?
How do you show up with the entirety of the Grey
Knights and say, like, we've got to clean the
bathroom. Can we come in, please? If we know
anything about the Imperium loyalists, they don't
always ask permission. They always assume we're
going to get rumbled straight away, so let's
not let ourselves be known. Like the Dark Angels
when they went to hunt the Force. and to be fair
they're like we don't want to be branded as heretics
and be shot but it's still like okay maybe we
just do our own thing and then if we get caught
say sorry um there's no possible way that they
could teleport into the throne room even if people
were in there first right like there's no way
that they could ever make that work no but they
do have so they can see the future to an extent
which custodians can't do and sisters can't do
which is a big thing yes so before we get into
it like so we're going to go down the route of
they're going to try and break into the palace
before we get any further i think there's another
should we get to the next uh round of donations
so the grey knights the i believe the first obstacle
is actually the sisters of silence yeah the they
are part of Ordeos Malleus, is it? Ordeo Malleus?
Well, no, they're not a part of anything. They're
just... They get called in by Ordeo Malleus sometimes,
don't they? They're like, oh, we're based on
Luna. We'll get called in if you need help, but
we're not beholden to anyone. There's like an
example of in the Sabathiel book, Sister of Silence
is called in to help her squad by another Inquisitor.
but that's just because this inquisitor has a
good reputation and the sisters are like, we
don't have to do it, but our, our, our objectives
are aligned. We'll send this lady. I remember
it's in the, one of the Ironman books where there
is an inquisitor that this conclave and they
have like a captured, well, as it is stereo.
So I think he's like, he's like the captured
thousand son, but he's actually like a renegade
Marine. and um they uh inquisitors there definitely
have a grey knight working for them i think one
or two there's a cool weird scene where like
the guy detaches his soul and the grey knight
detaches his soul they start chasing each other
around the room um but i think they could call
on all those well we should say i have a i had
a little theory craft thing for this which is
the uh there are segments of the Inquisition
that are radicals, we should say. Was it Xantham?
Xanthite. Xantham's a gum. I believe elements
of the Inquisition could be called on to have
a few favours with dealing... As we saw in...
I was trying not to mention it earlier, because
I'm saving it for now, which is during the fall
of the Thousand Sons home war at Prospero, the
Battle of Prospero, during the heresy, it was
seen... When the custodians are fighting alongside
the Sisters of Silence and they're attacking
the Thousand Suns, it's going like a real shit
show for the Thousand Suns. The minute they start
shooting the Sisters of Silence in between the
custodians, it's not even like a fair game at
that point because I believe it's, we can mean
Andy did a LodgeCast episode on it not too long
ago. Some of the Thousand Suns, they just grab
like three jet bikes and just slam them into
the wall. Like, they unleash fire in them. Like,
you have to remember, each of the Grey Knights,
some of them are more powerful than Thousand
Suns in the Heresy era. So, like, you have to
understand, like, when the Silence whole package
thing is removed, I assume some of them are in
the Golden Throne room, unfortunately. Well,
bear in mind that the thing about... sisters
as well as they're a proximity thing like in
even in the prospero burns book it mentions about
how the thousand sons to counter them start sniping
them because they if they're too far away they
can't really use their null powers and you got
to remember they're like as as coordinated as
the custodians is grey knights have telepathy
they can communicate via their minds they can
sure they can't like attack a sister up close
but they could chuck a like tower or a statue
at a sister or they could make a big trail of
fire like everyone's like oh it's lightning from
your hands it's like yeah in a way but also there's
other things like telepathy telekinesis telekinesis
there's all their other like their foresight
their ability to to use their like in practical
terms anything is possible for a psyker it's
not just lightning come out me handies it's like
oh we could just oh these sisters are a problem
we could see what their deployments are ahead
of time and put melter charges where they're
going to stand and blow them up it's like and
and it's worth remembering that the one gimmick
that gray knights have the more gray knights
there are the better their psychic powers get
they're a force multiplier so if they attacked
as a thousand men it would be much stronger than
10 or 100 And so then it's like, oh, it's not
just a thousand men like the Thousand Suns pooling
their resources. It's a thousand Astartes pooling
their resources and they're on psychic roids,
essentially, where it's even more powerful. And
I'm like, that combined with the prognosticators,
I think they actually have a chance. I've got
to be honest. Because sisters are a problem,
but... Go ahead, Eli. I just said I agree. Without
the sisters, they could totally do it, in my
opinion. I think, because this eliminates me.
Assuming there's a thousand of them. There might
only be, like, three of these guys. We don't
really know. Some of these guys, we should say,
like, some of them in the Dark Imperium trilogy,
one of the, I mean, a few of the Grey Knights
get killed by quite a few of the Death Guard,
but then there's one guy who's able to go toe
-to -toe with Typhus and, like, make him back
off. So these guys are not pushovers at all.
They're pretty strong in the Watchers of the
Throne book. The Grey Knights are asked to...
This is playing into a theory I have that could
work. In that book, they are asked to help with
controlling some of the corruption that's spreading
on Terra. And some of the Cthodians fight alongside
the Grey Knights. They don't trust them because
they're Astartes. So that's a big problem, unfortunately.
They won't get that close. They do work alongside
them, and it does show they are somewhat impressed
with how they're able to keep up with the Custodes.
The issue is you've got to create a scenario
kind of really similar to what was the Second
Siege of Terra, which is how Cypher got out.
You need to create a point where the Custodes
have to essentially deal with a problem. so massive
that you draw their numbers away so you it sounds
really heretical but the grey knights could possibly
enact something to like because again they banish
demons they do so that kind of stuff potentially
they could somewhat support a chaos incursion
in the middle of terror that causes the custodians
to react and then that means the palace is a
little bit more open they could teleport to the
palace but not close to the golden throne because
there's lots of protections on that side but
if they were presenting it as a threat of like
particularly a psychic threat such as like you
know what if you know thousand suns or like you
know chaos demons attack on mass the grey knights
would be called to aid and that's where you get
the opportunity to getting close to the throne
this is where i think they have to plan with
all those you know whatever uh inquisition members
they can or that they influence that they wield
to essentially kill off or get rid of as many
the sisters of silence as possible because otherwise
you are screwed and this is where i honestly
think maybe a bum rush to what's the golden throne
has to happen well the issue as well you get
i think one thing i just remember now there's
two massive is it warhound titans in front of
the gates of I honestly don't think they're a
problem because we've got to remember the Grey
Knights in bands of 100 or less have beaten Angron
and Mortarion twice. That's Demon Primarchs.
That's not Primarch Primarchs. That's like super
duper Primarched up full of them chaos. And they
managed it with like in this game, which we're
watching the footage of. Five Grey Knights kill
Mortarion at the end. Spoilers. Five of them.
They're like, oh, that's like one of the Emperor's
sons. In a video game. In a video game. In a
video game. Kaldor Drago does it by himself,
basically. Yeah, but Kaldor Drago is in that
band of five. You get him at the last mission.
Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. Also, is Kaldor
Drago here? Is he here for the Terminus Degree?
Okay, then they win. Then they win. Okay. We're
all done. it's over so they it's over they had
to chomp through a few of the custodians i i
think quite honestly denied of their sisters
of silence and if it's the whole grey knights
because i assume they're sending everybody um
it's an almost like an unstoppable force i'm
sure they will chew through uh the issue is is
like do they get enough of them killed off because
obviously the imperial palace is not easy to
get through automated guns and defenses and all
that stuff i'm sure they can hack and they can
you know mentally infiltrate any human obstacle
if there's if there's a thousand of them in one
spot their freaking kind shield or whatever is
probably strong enough to deflect literally any
gun ever yeah yeah i would assume i mean prospero
they did that and they were being fought by sisters
custodians space balls and titans and they managed
to hold them off for a while so And also they
could possess people. The Grey Knights could
be like, I'm going to control this fraud who's
in charge of the shield generator of the palace
or whatever, like gun in place. They'd have all
the sneaky tricks up their sleeve as well. Whereas
Custodian is, I can kill you with my spear. Pretty
dang good. Are you good at tech? No. How many
Custodians do you think there are actually at
the palace though? That's what I've been wondering.
A few thousand, yeah. Also, would the Custodians
just like, If they thought the Emperor was going
to be bum -rushed by this group, I'm sure there's
some blowing mechanism where it's like blow up
the bridge or like there's some... Thanks, bro.
I know I heard it as soon as I said it. There
must be some kind of mechanism. We have to assume
quite a few of the Grey Knights will get killed
off. Say like they're losing over 2 ,000 of the
guys at least. 2 ,000? Do we even have 2 ,000
Grey Knights? Oh yeah, sorry, not 2 ,000. I mean
like 200, sorry. We're losing at least 20 % of
them, I assume. The issue is we get now, so it's
probably quite a few hours this is happening.
They have to time this with either some other
distraction on Terra, and then they get into
the Golden Throne room. This is the ultimate
failing, I think, that is of the Terminus Decree.
It states if he's ascending to godhood, they
supposedly have to... put him back on the throne
does even like say all of the you know like god
forbid all of the grey knights survive and they
make it into this room they combine into one
there is something in um horus heresy in the
uh world eater books where they have the ability
called communion which is where like all the
librarians almost combine into like one thing
so they these it's like carl mangron down is
like they speak in like one voice and it's combining
all their power So I assume this ability is not
beyond the Grey Knights. If a communion to fight
against what I assume is a being worshipped by
trillions ascending to godhood, which I believe
Gilliman described as soon as you enter into
the room that is the Golden Throne room. It is
like being near the heart of a star. It's just
blinding and you can't even see anything correctly.
Do they all just die immediately in the attempt?
That's kind of what I was thinking. Well, the
only thing is, they have the same genetic makeup
as the Emperor. They have his genetics in them.
Surely that counts for something. Is it against
them, though? The only other people that share
genetics with the Emperor are the Primarchs.
Surely that's enough for them to get past whatever
that barrier is. Like, oh, we're made of him.
Surely we're not going to have the full glare.
Presumably he's way stronger in this scenario
than he's ever been. in this setting right yeah
and he's already pretty intensely powerful the
emperor at his most powerful before this is when
he's has his fight with horus and he assumes
so much power he almost ascends to a different
kind of godhood then and i believe it states
like just being in his presence uh burns the
custodians into like crisps and they're just
like they're puppeteered walking corpses like
just being near it so the question is do they
have the strength to actually like what subdue
a god and then place it back on the golden throne
and then depower it that is the if they were
that strong they probably could have got one
of the chaos gods by now like uh well i mean
kaldor has been in the realm of chaos wrecking
their stuff Yeah, but he's one guy. He can't
solo Khorne, though. I mean, Green Eyes can't
pull up and fight Khorne himself or whatever.
He's not been given a chance, really. He got
through Ginger's maze. He did all the trials.
He beat everyone in his path. Yeah, he's the
GOAT. That was one dude. He's the GOAT. And if
he's surrounded by a hundred of his mates, he's
even stronger than he would have been then because,
again, force multiplier. he'd be stronger than
he's ever been in the canon because even when
it was panda racks it was the grey knights versus
uh the grey knights and and dark angels i don't
remember any of the grey knights falling in that
in that campaign they might have but it wasn't
like They were planning for Drago to be there.
They were like, oh, he just appeared. Oh, okay,
cool. Whereas if this was the Terminus Decree,
you could bet Drago is going to miraculously
teleport there so they can bet he's going to
be... Okay, everyone circle around Drago. He's
going to be the linchpin of this. Go on, soup
him up, give him all you do. But I assume at
some point the Emperor is fighting back, right?
This is the problem where like... Does he just
lick them with balls and turn them to dust immediately?
Well, bear in mind that the traitor Primarchs,
the only one who gave grief to the Emperor was
Horus, who was one guy. And he was souped up
by Chaos Powers. Fair enough. But the Grey Knights
have beaten Mortarion and Angron. If a hundred
of them were with the guy who did that, maybe
they'd have a shot. Maybe. I'm just assuming
that... the emperor right now is like so is astronomically
psychically powerful more psychically powerful
than the emperor who fought horus if he's not
then if he's the same power level as the emperor
fighting horus and the great knight solo and
win but there is too fair uh drago's a slave
to slanesha that's right rare's pepe he's the
silver knight shush there is another way this
is not the only way to do it because i been thinking
about this before we started the stream and I'm
saving it the emperor like supposedly any good
god that he is and supposedly the king in yellow
whole plot point is the emperor has a true name
the emperor supposedly the king in yellow is
looking for the emperor's true name to control
him is this If this information is in the Grey
Knight's hand, like the Emperor's a true name,
is this the method where it's actually like,
is this the only one where it's like, this is
a viable shot? And bearing in mind, we should
say, some characters speaking a being's true
name has a bad side effect of basically killing
people. I believe only Zadu Layak of the Word
Bearers, the Dark Apostle empowered... Psyker
guy who weirdly forgets his own name and his
true being or whatever. He spoke Fulgrim's true
name during the heresy to basically make Fulgrim
under his control, under Logar's orders. And
it almost killed him on the spot. Now, a Grey
Knight... I mean, I bet Kaldor... The thing is,
this was demon Primarch Fulgrim, so it was already
a pretty crazy thing to attempt. The idea of...
Because one being has to know this. Is Coward
Drago strong enough? I love the idea that the
Terminus Decree, you open the little box. It
has, here's what you got to do. And at the bottom
it says, P .S. The Emperor's name is Michael.
Oh, of course. And then that's what brings him
down at the end of it. That'd be funny. I say
that because we should say that knowing a, I
don't know if it's to do with like a creature
of the warp or if it's a. it must be a warp thing
because it's only ever implied to be either for
demons or demon Primarchs or other creature.
Well, surprisingly, the fact that the emperor
supposedly has a true name implies like he is
of the warp fully. I guess a weird connotation
there, but knowing a true name of a creature,
not like as in like, like anything, like knowing
his name is Michael, but knowing like the. Like
how Grey Knights are made, they are often made
in tandem with their name being reminiscent of
a demon's name to give themselves control over
that demon. And so therefore, knowing the true
name of the Emperor, which isn't like an actual
name, it's more like an usherance of some true
power in the universe. You can't hear it correctly.
When the Fulgrim one happened, you didn't hear
it just go, Kevin! It was something... Like,
in a language that's undecipherable, almost.
When it was Mortarian, it was, whoever smelt
it, dealt it. And I was like, what undid him?
Supposedly, then, the Emperor's true name, like,
again, like, speaking it, the question is, are
the Grey Knights strong enough to have someone
know it and be able to speak it, essentially?
That's the thing, because it's knowing it, learning
the name can almost... basically kill you on
the spot uh and it takes quite a lot of preparation
and i mean calvo drago again i was saying like
he's probably the only one who could do it maybe
because of the plot armor is it the am i remembering
correctly that to be a grandmaster you basically
have to memorize like the majority of names in
like their big term of demon like names and and
the bigger deal you are the more you can remember
and not go insane I feel like Kaldor, if he's
the big cheese, he's like, I've memorized the
whole thing, mate. It's all in here. I've got
all the names because it's good to know. But
obviously, if you try to learn too much, you
go insane, and that's not very good. If people
are listening as well, let us know in the comments
and the chat how you think they could do it.
Generally, how you think they could do it. I
don't know if there's any other... The true name
idea, they would also have to be in the Golden
Throne Room. But the thing is, they don't need
that many of them this time. So say if they went
down the same route of just big distraction,
a few Grey Knights are needed near the Throne
Room, whatever, like one or two guys, doesn't
matter. They're able to get that guy in. They're
able to get Khalil Drago in. I'm sure the Grand
Master of the Grey Knights is able to see the
Emperor. So that could be a possibility. And
this is a way to command the emperor. But this
also negates the idea that you don't actually
have to fight the emperor, supposedly, which
sounds horrific because that just might mean
instant failure. I guess that's the method I
think could be most successful, though. But it
would require them knowing that the fact that
the emperor has a true name and they wouldn't
immediately, like, you know, basically all thousand
of them try and then, like, they all die. That
could be a pretty bad method. What would the
odds be if they released a big giant demon invasion
on the other side of Earth? What if the sisters
and the custodians just stood there? Because
it's their job to protect the emperor. So they
just stayed at the palace and let everyone else
die. They kind of did that during the Siege of
Terror, to be fair. They couldn't defend the
whole planet. They would just everyone go around
the palace. Sorry, guys. Is that a baby outside
the walls? Subodhan Khan waiting in like, I've
got the baby. Other than that, though, it's like,
yeah, the custodians, they weren't at the front
lines of the siege of terror. They were just
buckle in, dig in your heels, let the blood angels,
imperial fists and white scars sort it out. We've
got bigger fish to fry. They kind of already
done that to an extent. Yeah. That's, yeah. All
the, i guess there's another route i have an
idea of but before we get any further i think
there's a few donors just to catch up we have
some other options for the scenario to play out
as well it says i believe if the emperor is leaving
the golden what if he emerges or is being reborn
this could potentially happen if the emperor
dies this could be the issue so the issue is
if someone was like yo we didn't have enough
psychas today the emperor finally dies and because
he was worshipped for like so long he eventually
lets go of his mortal coil and ascends to godhood
this is the issue as well so the scenario in
this version is basically there's no more psychas
to feed to the emperor slash keep him re keeping
him being reborn on the Imperium? I guess at
that point, do they just grab one of our dudes
and just we've got a thousand days or something?
Yeah. I don't know. Potentially. And we haven't
even factored into where's the Imperial Fist.
factor into this. I wasn't even considering them.
Yeah, I assumed they would make sure they get
sent somewhere else, to be honest. Because, I
mean, they have... We're staying out of this,
boys. You figure it out yourselves. But you know
what? Ultimate move. Throw Titan at the Imperial
Palace. Throw the whole moon. We're trying to
get him off the throne, not blow the throne up.
Let's be clear. Sorry, get him back on the throne.
We can smush him back on the throne through the
seismic activity. Get on there. As long as the
meat puppet is in the right place, it's fine.
If you could get the custodians and sisters in
one spot and then throw the moon at them, then
that would work. There's also the other idea
of they could potentially not be alone in this
and maybe they would need allies. How do you
think they could because we've me and andy have
been reading some scouring stuff and there's
a whole thing about like supposedly they're setting
up a thing of like the emperor needs is like
not like he's not healing on the golden throne
and i think it's i think it might go the whole
way of like how they kickstart the mechanism
of like making sure the emperor stays on the
golden throne do you think gilliman could be
convinced to enact the terminus decree if he
because gilliman might be like you know oh that's
malkador's handwriting That's my boys. Do you
think Gilliman could be convinced then to essentially...
I know the custodians would never be convinced.
That's the thing. I think the thing is he's also...
You mentioned the scouring. He had that whole
alliance made with Luna to try and get Luna on
board to secure power again rather than Mars.
So I feel like Gilliman would be like, oh, I'm
more sympathetic to the sisters and the custodians.
because also let's not forget that the space
marines brought the galaxy to ruin wasn't the
custodians it was the space marines that betrayed
the imperium i think he wouldn't want to um pick
a fight with uh with uh the sons of valdor so
to speak and uh and luna's gals i think gilliman
would be more like i don't want the unrest with
the ecclesiarchy i don't want to have all these
like If anything, even in his Dark Imperium books,
he's reading Lorgar's book. He's starting to
maybe think, oh, maybe there is something to
the whole religiosity stuff. I feel like Gillen
would be like, practically speaking, this would
just be more problems. And looking at how faith
works as a concept, this might be a good thing
for the Imperium. I feel like he might be on
the side of looking out for... Screw it. Let
the Emperor ascend just for practical reasons.
Yeah, that might be an issue. You'd have to catch
him right as soon as he's just come back from
just before Indomitus, before Plague Wars. You've
got to get him in his cigarette break where he's
just there like, fine, do it. They can maybe
convince the Eldar to help them. Some Harlequins.
That is a good point. And there's multiple factions
that could be convinced that the Emperor is not
worth having as a god. And maybe the Eldar is
one of them, I doubt. Do you think the Necrons
possibly? Necron side with the Custodians. We
don't want any more of these immaterial, crazy
folks. We want everyone to be normal like us.
Do you have any skin? I don't know if they'd
be desperate enough to let Necrons be part of
this, though, and get into the throne room of
the Imperium and stuff. There's some examples
of Harlequins. They work together. Harlequins
make sense. They have some relationship. That's
like the worst of the worst. They let the Hellraiser
cosplayers in. And Trazin did help during Cadia,
which was lower stakes. end times level threat.
I feel like Necrons wouldn't be out of order
necessarily. But the Necrons have a lot more
to gain from just killing the Emperor than the
Dark Eldoran people did. In my opinion. I'm sure
they do. I'm sure you can get the Tau to help
somehow, but not that that would matter. The
Harlequins are their best bet, I think. Probably.
I'd say Yeah, well, as a sort of nice round -up,
our idea to kill the Emperor slash to save the
Emperor was murk the Sisters of Silence, massive
chaos, incursion, distraction, possibly, throw
every Grey Knight and their grandmother at one
section altogether, and then hopefully they can
batter down whatever's rising off the Golden
Throne, or... Where the other method, which may
or may not be possible, which is use the emperor's
true name to sort of command him to sort of,
I don't know, obey and sit on the throne like
a good boy. I don't know. How would that one
play out? I think maybe we have answered the
question, though. I think that's the kind. I
don't know if, again, in my opinion, though,
this would never be possible. Like, genuinely,
like, I don't know. Like, they could get close.
I think they could get to the Golden Throne.
But I think they would get murked as soon as
the Emperor was just like, go away, flick, and
then the whole thing. He goes, lick my balls.
Or just breathes, and then he just inhales all
of their power. That could be a thing. So I assume
at some point, like, the Grey Knights just, like,
it costs all of them to do it. Otherwise, it's
just not going to happen. Does anyone have any
other interesting thoughts on it? Because I think
we may have answered the question if hopefully
we explored every possibility other than literally
like, you know, fuck it, we call in the Orcs.
And I mean, to be fair, the Ordo, I don't know
exactly where all the Ordos, I feel like if the
Ordo Malleus sided with the Grey Knights, the
Ordo Hereticus would then oppose them as, oh.
That sounds like heresy to me. And you'd have
an inter -Inquisition war, perhaps. And then
the Ordozenos, like, this isn't an alien. They
keep out of it because they don't care. Again,
Imperial Fists, that's their home turf. They
might get involved in terms of just... I feel
like they'd keep the status quo because they're
very conservative in this is what works, this
is what we've always done. We'll decide with
the custodians on this one. But I guess we...
I have to wait and see. I don't know if we'll
ever see any stories with the Grey Knights, to
be honest, because it's been a while. We had
Hyperion a while ago. They've been involved in
Chaos Gate. But other than that, we haven't really
seen much Grey Knight stories. Well, they get
a range refresh. You never know. You never know.
Other than that, we had a question of the week
from the previous episode. I believe it was the
Maelstrom episode that we... previously covered,
all that Huron goodness there. I don't remember
what the question was. We were bringing it into
the maelstrom. Yeah, it was hashtag crew. So
the first one was from DonkeyManUSA and hashtag
crew, I take fanquel. Not because he'd do anything
resembling useful, but because anything involving
the funny rat man will become exponentially more
interesting. That's a really good idea. The next
one is from Mike the Grail Knight. He loves Grey
Knights. He's been doing all the fact checking.
I'd only take Timmy from accounting. He's an
accountant and good at logistics. I'm sure with
those skills, we could be the most successful
pirate slash merchants in the galaxy. Timmy's
a little bitch. Yes, there was Shane and Timmy
from accounting. Timmy? Was Timmy going to put
an axe in Timmy's hand? Thought not. We've got
a double whammy here. So two people. One from
Bayuma Koneko. I'm taking Gotrek and ducking
out at the first opportunity because I know what
happens to side characters in Gotrek's story.
He'll have the maelstrom sorted in a week at
most. And Biggest Squiggan, I'm taking Kyverskane
in brackets specifically as depicted in TTS.
King from One Punch Man and any of the Three
Stooges, we shall BS our way to victory. Three
Stooges, 40k bit would be lovely. It would be
funny. And last one for the question of the week
from last time from Matthew Lexia or Latexia.
The law crimes crew so that whatever happens
to me happens to all of you as well. Best case
scenario, I offer Huron four new potential servitors
with plenty of forehead space in exchange not
to be servitorized myself. Wow, how cruel. How
cruel. Do you know what? I know my place. I am
the guy that's killed off in the first ten minutes
of the film. Like, I am immediately, I'm the
meat shield bro. I'm the guy who goes like, Hey,
guys, did you hear something? And then immediately.
What was that actually? I don't know. I have
no idea. Hey, guys. Oh, geez. Oh, geez. These
dudes are so dumb. Chaos has no effect on them.
That's right, Jake Thornton. They'd be awesome.
Oh, man. We also have a new question of the week,
which is hashtag usurper. Basically, how would
you end the reign of the Emperor, the Master
of Mankind? What would you do in order to get
rid of him in your own version of the Terminus
Decree? Which I haven't really thought about
how I would get rid of the Emperor because it
is heresy. Alright, let's hear it. Scooters to
ankles immediately. Slow, painful, scooters to
ankles death. We should learn how many ankle
scooter hits does it take to kill an emperor
immediately. Knock him into pain land. There's
no way he's living that. Bony ankles. You want
to get Tony Hawk to just skate into his knees
and get those ankles hit by the skateboard with
a sick flip and then there he goes. Can I still
throw Titan? The Emperor is a lot cruiser. I
like the Moonstrad the most. The Moom. Very Final
Fantasy, I will say. We also have Minis of the
Week. Yeah, which we forgot about. I got one.
Hal's got one. If you want to have a look. I
was the one who forgot. No, no, no. I will say
that Hal very sneakily remembered. Yes, I saw
the chat. And then he went, okay, I'm just going
to put this in our private Discord very sneakily.
And then Andy will see the notification and remember.
So the first one is this one here. This one is
from Dangerous Cow. This is so cool. I believe
he says in the post, he's excited for 11th edition
and his free booters are ready to sail with the
lads. This man is popping with some color. I
mean, it just looks so fun. That's the thing,
like, I really, because I don't play Orcs, and
I don't know if I'd ever, like, feel brave enough
to have an army that crazy. But, like, that just
looks like such a fun model, man. I mean, he's
showing, like, there's even more pictures he
has, like, of, like, separate models he has in
his group. Like, again, man, like, again, this
guy is having the most amount of fun on the table.
Great, great job, man. Great fucking job. Seriously.
It's crazy stuff. Then let me just get this selection.
So this one is the one I chose. And I'm a sucker
for someone who does like a little bit of like
CG stuff to help it pop a little bit more. This
one is from. Well, this one is a lamentary piece.
And I want to make sure I get the name correct.
It's Shiraz. Shiraz Church. Shiraz Productions.
It's good. I like how it looks. I like the cinematic
-ness, if that is a word. I think it's cool.
What can I say? I like the poses. And again,
anyone who puts evidence of the checkerboarding
deserves a pick because it's such pain, such
a ball ache to do that. And I like, yeah, I like
how Shiraz has done this. This guy on the right
who's doing that kind of like mid -stride pose
so it looks a bit more dynamic. It's good. I
like it. I like it. Nice, man. Nice. And then
this one I just need to turn into a JPEG because
Discord is funny like that. This one was Eli's
pick. And this one was from the Donkey Man. Brother.
This guy telling me to goon every time. Yeah.
And this one's from Donkey Man. It's pretty crazy,
skaven, skaven tricknology from Donkey Man. You
put rhino tracks on that, on the panelling. You
can see the back, I think, too. What is he used
here? Dreadnought pieces. Is that a... Redemptor?
There's part Redemptor, part Ratman, part...
I think that's a Ballista's Dreadnought, looking
at the two different side pieces you've got.
You've got... Oh my god, several kits. Yeah.
Jesus Christ, that is a lot of kit bashing. Brother,
that is impressive. Your unhinged mind, brother,
is my favourite thing. It's not even painted,
bro. It's impressive. It's not painted, it's
here and there. It's in grey. but thank you guys
so much for listening for watching hopefully
we answered the question of how we think the
terminus decree could be actually enacted uh
hopefully make it a little bit less stupid because
apparently asking someone by the way go fight
the emperor no instructions is a is a valid thing
so uh other than that we'll see you guys all
next week for uh yeah back to regular episodes
with stuff got some more cool things coming and
we'll see you guys very soon peace bye everybody