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Oh, welcome, guys. It's the slightest bit late,

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yeah. There's an awkward silence. Welcome to

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Lore Crimes. Hope you're having a good day. Thanks

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for coming to join us on this fine afternoon,

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evening. This will be Colin's last appearance

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on Lore Crimes. Executed for being 0 .25 seconds

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late because my internet was apparently a bit

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slow. If next week you see a guy who looks suspiciously

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like Colin, he's just going to replace by a new

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cast member. Yeah. Suspiciously similar, but

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not quite the same. Different accent entirely

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as well. No. Yeah. Today we're doing a nice little,

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we listen, we don't judge. So you find folks

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in the discord. We're hearing your slop garbage

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opinions and we're going to discuss them. And

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I think that's the kindest way I can think about

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it. Just kidding. Some of these are actually

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okay. Notable gameplay of Hal on his own with

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no friends. I had to re -download this game because

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I was rusty. It's like Halo Reach when Noble

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Six is all alone. Anyways, we asked you guys,

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we wanted some suggestions about law changes.

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We wanted your ideas. We asked you for your...

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Athena's upset about law changes. The poor dog

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hated your suggestions, by the way. But we asked

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you guys to give us your law suggestions that

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you make. Some serious, some... By the way, some

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of you guys... immediately we're writing like

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there's a guy talking about pregnancy in that

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thing okay it needs to be calmed down i need

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to get the water bottle um but yeah we had a

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few guys uh do put some legitimate answers in

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so we appreciate that and we're gonna go through

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them and we'll dissect we'll see if it's any

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good we'll see if you guys have some valid opinions

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or not can i just say Can I just say, we've officially

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defeated DonkeyManUSA. We're streaming so early,

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he wasn't able to say stream late due to Hal

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gooning. True. We miss you, DonkeyMan. But then

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RerosPepe also said, Hal, stop gooning and start

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already. And Leoximi said, late. And then Golgil

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said, stream late due to them throwing up at

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the horrible lore. There was plenty of people

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standing in for DonkeyMan, so that was good.

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And as the... We should say, as the stream's

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going, you guys can still send in ones. Send

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in some good ones while throw up. I don't know.

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I will. No. Leave your comments of what you would

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change if we don't mention something cool. Yeah.

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Should we get straight into it? Let's get right

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into the news. No, that's not... That's an old

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reference. Don't know, Max. Don't do it. That's

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the path to darkness. From Spooky, I want Vashtor

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to become an actual Chaos God, and Peter Turbo

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becomes Demon Prince of Vashtor. Also, I think

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Kurz is alive. Well. Nice. Very nice. As much

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Primark BM as I can get, I'll take it. Yeah,

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you know, I guess Noble Six is alive in the cave

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too, right? I mean, Vastal basically is going

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to be a Chaos God, right? Surely? He's kind of

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trying his best. He's doing a good try. Has he

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gotten any lore since whenever the Dark Angels

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and whatever box came out? Kind of. In the new

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Carcaradon's book, the main opponent is a Vashtor

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cult, and they're getting gifts from Vashtor

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trying to take over this forge world. So they're

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chipping away at it, but it's more... He's kind

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of there, I guess. Once again, Eli, you've stepped

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on GW's trap card, which is... A hint of a silhouette

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of a lore. In a space marine. Every four years.

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You squint really hard that there might be a

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lore. Yeah. I mean, why does he want Curse alive,

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though? He just said he thinks he's alive. He

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thinks, oh, is this the... I mean, presumably.

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Is this the, like, supposedly his soul is in

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the crown? Which has like a gem on it. I don't

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know how alive that is, though, you know? I don't

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know how much that counts as alive, you feel?

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Ah, he comes back as the Wraith Boner. Like,

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no. Wraith Boner. I like he's dead, though. I

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like when... Me too. It makes a good... The character's

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story has been told. Do you know what I mean?

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I don't know if it's... any more story left to

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tell of curse like he fulfilled his whole like

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madness arc of you know i put myself on the throne

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and i let myself die because haha that makes

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me not a person i swear you know i don't know

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i i enjoy that character arc so i'd leave him

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dead i want to say if he comes back for the scouring

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for a brief stint i'm going to be a bit annoyed

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like no he was fine where he was get him on in

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the dirt Get him back into Framas and leave him

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there. He was fine. He had an arc. It's finished.

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It's over. Leave him. Yeah, but you could save

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about all of them. You know he's coming back.

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There is no escape. True. Lorgar could die, for

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all I care, though. All the Primarchs? I'd actually

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be okay if Lorgar came back. That'd be awesome.

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Horus should have bludgeoned him in at the end

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of the... Heresy. Orgar reminds Hal too much

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of himself. So he makes him a priest. A bold

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priest. Future bold. Hey, he's like Johnny Sinsbald,

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though. He makes it look good. Oh, no. And on

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that note, who'd like to read this one from Fugless

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El Bosso? I think Hal's tagged, so it's got to

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be Hal, surely. Okay, thank you, Mr. Thugness,

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which is, again, one of the better names I've

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ever come across. He says, give Titus the Chiron

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treatment. It's not too late to stop him from

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being the ultimate Gary Stu. You know, my OC

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is so cool. He perma -resisted chaos. He was

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taken prisoner by the Inquisition because that

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mean dummy Leandros was wrong at everything.

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I assume he meant it to sound like this. He was

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part of the Death Watch and killed many Xenos,

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brackets, even though the way the Corvus Blackstar

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crashes is a bull. It falls for the Tyrannid

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Tactics 101. You can also hear the Emperor's

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directly. His relationship with his brothers

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is fixed by almost killing each other. Space

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Marine 2. The Space Marine 2 story. Also, he's

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in charge of reconquering Ultramar, even though

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that shouldn't be his job. Brackets, I don't

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know. Master of the Watch implies defense much

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more than Master of the Fleet, which is third

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company. Or, you know, the fucking Regent. Brackets,

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first company. Damn, this guy feels strong. The

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guy there is called Agamemnon. He's still around.

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Can't have him yet. He finishes off by saying,

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anyway, we're not quite there yet, but it's getting

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close. The only way to prevent it is to humble

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Marine fans once more. He's only tolerated right

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now because people associate him with Space Marine

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2 gameplay. Damn. I like overpowered Ultramarine

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characters. It's not cool in any other faction,

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but it's funny in Ultramarines. Space Marine

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2 is mid -Marine 2, by the way. Poop game. Wow.

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Poopier story, actually. We need another ultrillion

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dollars. Yes, we do. 10 ,000 more Ultramarine

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characters, please. Can we just have one more

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Uriel Ventress thing? He's been like... Titus

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is wearing his skin. He's got that kind of energy.

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He's like, no, what happened to Uriel? Don't

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worry about that guy. He had green pauldrons.

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Ew, yuck. No, it was an okay color scheme. it's

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okay uh necrosaur mentor kind of beats titus

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in uh in the lore so you know what the necrons

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are the only xenos who are ever allowed to beat

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the ultramarines it seems and i'm okay with that

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yeah i'll beat them i say i disagree on one point

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which is uh i i agree and disagree on one and

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one thing uh titus law in general is quite mid

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Compared to a lot of the other ones, it's quite

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mid. Space Marine 2, though, is fun because the

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story is there for the simple reason of funneling

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me into the mission where I have a jump pack

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and a thunder hammer. That's the only reason

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for the story. Yeah, it does what it needs to

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do, which is give me an excuse to kill people.

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i mean i don't go into a space marine battles

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novel and expect it to be good so i guess i should

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expect the same thing for like a space marine

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game it's a fair point yeah the gameplay is good

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though like but i'm not yeah okay i don't think

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i was going in expecting to you know sob at the

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height the height of emo you know emotional masculinity

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on display like i wasn't i was more just like

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yay As someone who's put 300 hours into that

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game now, more out of commitment than anything,

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I'll play it any day over. Frigging Endless Space

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2, my God. Okay, there it is. I was not having

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fun with that. What's worse, Endless Space 2

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or Dota 2 to you, Andy? Oh, Dota 2 by a mile.

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Dota 2 should be like, you know how they say...

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the American government, they torture people

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with, like, blasting Metallica in a, like, an

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adept sleep -deprived room. They should just,

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like, give people, like, a top -of -the -line

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gaming PC and play Dota 2 and just leave them

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to it. It's like, they'll break. Give it a day.

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Somehow I automatically knew you were going to

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associate it with prison torture when you said

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that. That's what immediately went to my mind.

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Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about then,

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surely. You were so clear and concise. You were

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like, yeah, I know exactly what you mean, and

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I love it. I have unbelievable Stockholm Syndrome

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where I tell myself I love the torture. And Dota

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2 loves me. Take care of me. Is Titus the Dota

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2 of characters to you than Eli? I like Titus.

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I like OP Ultramarines. I think it's funny. Monkey

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on the typewriter, that sentence. Holy shit.

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Is Titus the Dota 2 of Ultramarines? Jesus Christ.

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My disappointment is immeasurable. It's funny

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and stupid, and I'm not going to complain about

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them. Even if their lore is bad, then whatever.

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Yeah, that's fair enough. Fair enough. Probably

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go to the next one then. Yeah, poor Titus though.

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Who would like this one from Fortified Mailman?

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Sure. Unmaking the Creek. Already a good start.

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wow they are the polar opposite of what the imperial

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guard is made is meant to represent i need to

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i cannot do this point by point or i'm going

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to be here for years the guard is humanity the

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guard is made up of humans not necron warriors

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every creek story starts and ends with a pointless

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siege it could have been avoided with daring

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military tactics and some wit Wasted in decades,

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the shells have already abandoned Hive. It's

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a pure waste of time and resources. Have you

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met the Imperium? Yet they are supposed to be

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some of the finest guardsmen ever. They have

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no ambition, emotion, or cause to fight for other

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than the Emperor. Have you met any space marine?

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Now, that's a fine motivator, but there are other

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factions that do that better. See such as a battle.

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You got me on that one. The fact that they got

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to be the essentially second regiment and had

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some more interesting ones also annoys me to

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no end. Valid. They serve no purpose other than

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mindless slaves. You're yanking me back and forth

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on you're so right, and I don't think you know

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what Warhammer is with this one. I agree. They

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shouldn't be the poster boys. I don't think they

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should be the poster boys. It is kind of silly

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that the regiment that constantly meet grinders

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all over their troops somehow always has more

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troops to spend, and somehow they rise in rank

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and survive conflicts. I don't know. They're

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a little silly. But Throw More Bodies at it is

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a classic. That's not unique to them at all.

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They have their place in the guard. I need to

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read through The Relentless Dead, which is a

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newish Steve Lyons book about the Kriegers. He

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does a lot of guard stuff. He did the Siege of

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Rax book, which I still haven't got around to.

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He did the Krieg book. So I'm like, yeah, we'll

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see if he can salvage their reputation as just

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like... they're also really cool in dead men

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walking and they have some good like debates

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on humanity and stuff i don't that's a great

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book it does make a pretty valid point though

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which is uh it is less horrifying for like the

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average human if the average human is like a

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mind numbed like super well that's super that's

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a more horror like of what the you know people

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are though that this is just an acceptable thing

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that no one sees anything wrong with their existence

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there's still plenty horrifying just in a look

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how far we've fallen kind of way it's like yeah

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this this is something to glorify they're a cool

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niche but now they're everything so what are

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you gonna do yeah and the cynic in me is like

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looking at the new um yarik returning animation

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and it's cadians and kriegers i'm like surely

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that's because they've made the assets already

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with their whoever their cgi people is if it's

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like blur studio or something they already have

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all these like generic guardsman models and just

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say i'll just reuse those don't have to make

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anyone for the steel legion for you i don't know

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what with with they're all about dying for the

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emperor show me a warhammer 40k human character

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who cannot be summed up with man grimly doing

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his duty because he must. And you are not allowed

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to say Caiaphas Cain. He is the only other one.

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He is the only other one. That sentence applies

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to everyone else. Except chaos characters, I

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guess. Damn, you really got us there. Touche.

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Pancreas no work. Touche. To be fair, in my grimdark

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setting, it's pretty weird if there was like...

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There's an array of very happy people, by the

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way. I don't need to be happy. I just want one

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motherfucker who's not all about grimly doing

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his duty. Yeah. I mean, the night books are like,

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oh, I want to be like a good king. So that guy,

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Denial. I do need to read some night books. There's

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two. Enjoy. And your Average Guard book is quite

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humanizing. The Average Guardsman is pretty human.

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They're human. I do like them. But, you know,

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the criticism of the... They blindly do their

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duty. That would be the guard. That would be

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all of them. A lot of the time, though, they

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at least have moral dilemmas and this and that.

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Character traits. They have character traits.

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I don't know. Maybe the wording of it is buggering

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my butthole for some reason. That's a Hal sentence

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right there. No, no, no. If it was Hal, it was

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buttering. Yeah, that is quite scary. I don't

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know. I don't know why this one is scary. I don't

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know this. This one is made my this one. This

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one is I don't know. You've turned it out. You've

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changed. You've got a you've healed. I'm angry

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now. I agree that the Krieger overrated. I don't

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think they have no place in 40k, though. I think

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they're so cool. But the aesthetic is cool, though.

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Yeah. But you know who originally had that aesthetic?

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The Armageddon Steel Legion. That's right, they

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did. Also the Germans and the French. And now

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technically the new Helldivers Warbond is kind

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of veering into that territory as well. Like,

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okay. Trench gun, I see you. I haven't seen that

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one yet. Oh, there's a trench gun now. There's

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a trench gun now. And you can get it for like

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400 credits in the generic store. Nice. Should

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we do some donates before we get any? Yeah. Let's

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give it a go. Thank you so much, guys. Thank

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you. Thank you very much. Do you want to start

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us off then? What crimes did this because of

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you? Oh, my God. It's the best name. Again, you

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guys have really good names. He's here. We used

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to be on Cygnus, didn't we? Five bucks, man.

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Thank you. No content with the green screen in

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his room. No content with green screen in his

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room. He's trying to green screen his shirt now.

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That is in the way. I can't green screen the

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room. The closet is there. Wow. You just need

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to get a little what they call it where you get

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changed behind and it's like a little booth.

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One of those. I can't remember what they're called.

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I don't know. Crazy Axeman, $17 .51. Thank you

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for the $5. Eli, I must know your feelings on

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the Waffle House map. It certainly is a 40K competitive

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map with a Waffle House in the middle of it.

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I'm looking forward to using it. I'll get Howler,

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Colin, whoever's willing to play me next time,

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and we'll play on that in our next 40K stream.

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It's a table. With the regular, like, classic

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layout, but the middle piece is a big Waffle

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House. Alright, hell yeah. That's pretty good.

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I thought this was like a GeoGuessr, but Waffle

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Houses or something. I was like, what? His Gmod.

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Shark Boromir for 5k. Colin, there are two wolves

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inside you. You were very popular at the furry

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convention. Also, happy birthday, Colin. Wow.

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We haven't heard happy birthday for a while.

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Yeah, they're picking back up now that it's almost

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two months after my birthday. It's a funny donation.

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Thank you, Sharkborn Beer. Damn. I know you're

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a member for four months. Thank you, man. Stream

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at 10pm, right? Tricked me nicely. Daylight savings

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is a... Not every country is doing it at the

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same time. I hate it so much. And the British

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are like eons behind somehow. We all won War

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Week. Next week is the same and then after that

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we're back to normal. So shush you. Calm down.

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Also, if you have any problems, tell the British

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government. The British government. Just say

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get rid of daylight savings. We'd have sundown

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at like three. It'd be crazy. Fun fact, during

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daylight savings, accidents on the road go up

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massively every year because everyone's a bit

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tired because they have to wake up. They're like,

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oh, I'm tired. Crash. Another one by Shark Bornmeyer

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for Five Canadian. Thank you, man. I'm happy

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for the new Defiler with its crop top and midriff.

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I have a weird thing about... some of those models

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the like i really like it but is it like the

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actual like you know the black legion like metal

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paneling like something is off and i don't know

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what the defiler yeah it feels like it does it

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does look like an original sculpt and not like

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a defiler if that's what you're saying um it's

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it's not jagged enough i would say it's like

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it's all very like it points into his chest there's

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no bit sticking out It doesn't look like shrapnel.

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It looks too smooth. Not smoothed edges, but

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contoured, I would say. That would be my read

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on it. It's giving hips don't lie. Yeah. Before

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I read this also, I see you in the chat, Possum.

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We are not on speaking terms right now. Go fuck

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yourself. There's a story behind that. I won't

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say anything. Spoiling something. I was made

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to look like a clown. possum please dm me please

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i will read it cattily on my phone and then you'll

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see me go you you get out of this chat you rat

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you rat or possum uh do you want to read this

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one uh fanciful prodigy with the fiber is that

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the dungeon mesh ep of being huge uh five months

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ago colin released a halo legends amv when will

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the other lore crimes members release thrown

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amvs Joke's on you. I made one 15 years ago that

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no one's ever seen. Maybe I'll make a Dota 2

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one. I don't think people want to see my one.

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It would just... What does that mean? It's going

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to go in the Necronomicon or something. It should

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be forbidden. Okay. It'll be that bad. What?

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My AMV just would be terrible. I'll fuck it up

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somehow. All right. Thank you very much. Thank

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you, guys. Hope you're all doing well. A few

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things. Change the Terminus decree law for the

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love of God. Make Belisarius called new emperor.

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Bring back pariahs. Make Leman Rustu a double

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flip kick on Belicor. And last change, that General

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Stern survives. Wow. That's a lot of crazy. Thank

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you. Thank you, man. Thank you so much. That

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was amazing. Call is too much of a goofball to

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be a... an Emperor, I think. But I always like

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Call of Lore. I want him to have more stuff.

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And to be fair, I do know who General Stern is.

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I still don't know who General Pask is, so there

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is that. He's the guy in the tank. You read Final

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Media. I know you did, and I know he's in it.

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Yeah, and I forgot he was there. That's how much

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of an impact he left. He's in a tank. Yeah. Braden,

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infinite slurs. i guess the episode we did that

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and then one of the top comments was like the

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the general um i can't remember his name now

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that general's like he's nice all right it's

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like flask like gulp you've forgotten him um

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does anyone have any thoughts on terminus decree

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If you just take into account that, like, Grey

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Knights are a force multiplier unto themselves,

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where the more they have, the better their psychic

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powers. If they attacked you en masse, it'd be

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like Goku levels of power. So I can't imagine

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it's that big of a deal. Honestly, like, one

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psycho is a pain in the ass. A hundred heavily

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armored psychos whose weapons are also tied to

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how powerful their psychic powers are. It's like

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they can cut through anything. They can make

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massive, like... colossal telekinesis, fire,

00:24:01.500 --> 00:24:04.599
whatever they want, you wouldn't get close to

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them. They'd be like the Thousand Suns on steroids.

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I don't think it's as big of an issue as people

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think it is, to be honest. Only if they attacked

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all at once. If you had 1v1ing each of the custodians,

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it would be a wash. Yeah, it'd be a slaughter.

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Yeah, but otherwise, it would be pretty deadly.

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it is a it's like superman versus batman thing

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but batman has prep time yeah it's like yeah

00:24:32.309 --> 00:24:37.410
reverse that's a different argument that i despise

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it's such a goofy concept well even if he has

00:24:44.009 --> 00:24:51.230
kryptonite oh yeah Orbit will strike him. He

00:24:51.230 --> 00:24:54.230
can chuck the fucking moon at Batman. You gotta

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remember how much prep does Batman have done.

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The only way Batman wins that fight is because

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Superman is the big blue boy scout and won't

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evaporate his inside. Spider -Man pulls his punches

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because if he fights Rhino with all of his punch

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a hole through him. And that's Spider -Man. Superman,

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it'd be like Invincible. It'd just be like, flick.

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destroyed entire building block i'm just saying

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oh no kidnap lois kidnap lois i'm gonna do a

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superman um hey peter check out batman moving

00:25:33.099 --> 00:25:36.960
swiftly on biggest swiggan who wants to read

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this one the steel legion lore death made me

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sad yep Then it wrapped around to being funny

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in the same way GW's hatred of Beastmen is funny.

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I like Beastmen too. Can't catch any Ws. Thank

00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.880
you for the $5. Listen, they're dead until there's

00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.240
a model being made. Yeah. AOS doesn't count.

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Making Beastmen in fantasy. Like, oh, we made

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Beastmen. It doesn't count if they're in fantasy.

00:26:05.099 --> 00:26:09.599
Gotta make Beastmen in 40k. I'm saying that...

00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:12.460
can't be vindicated being like we made some beastmen

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no you did no for 40k oh no we're just gonna

00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:18.640
put them in aos no no no no you gotta put them

00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.880
in 40k they're a fantasy faction yeah yeah but

00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:24.279
they're also a 40k faction and there's like one

00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:36.210
they're in necromunda that's not a faction It'd

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be even worse than the freaking, like, making

00:26:38.549 --> 00:26:40.490
the Votana faction, making the Demiurge faction.

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I'm angry. I'm angry this stream. It's not getting

00:26:43.390 --> 00:26:47.690
better. Calm you down, Colin. Would you like

00:26:47.690 --> 00:26:53.549
to read this last one? Oh, good. I think it's

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worked. Great boss, thank you for being a member

00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.579
for eight months. And the huge PFP, I love that

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image. I'd make the Khan be half Eldar and have

00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:08.819
one leg. Why one leg? Put him in a really fast

00:27:08.819 --> 00:27:17.299
wheelchair. But why one leg? Possum? Possum,

00:27:17.299 --> 00:27:20.980
can you DM me the lore please? Yes. DM us all

00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:25.599
separately the loplas. I need to know this. I

00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.880
need to know. Okay, so to get us back on track.

00:27:29.059 --> 00:27:35.660
So number four from Kane's handsomest anti -diluvian.

00:27:35.940 --> 00:27:40.660
But this one's too how. Oh, let me go. Empire

00:27:40.660 --> 00:27:43.660
of the Masquerade dates going here. Yeah. He

00:27:43.660 --> 00:27:46.279
says the emperor finally gets off the throne.

00:27:46.380 --> 00:27:50.289
And as he does, everything goes dark. We're back

00:27:50.289 --> 00:27:53.369
to Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader, aka first edition

00:27:53.369 --> 00:27:57.269
lore. Everything ever built up is gone. Only

00:27:57.269 --> 00:27:59.769
first edition models will be allowed for official

00:27:59.769 --> 00:28:02.369
tournaments going forward. This change should

00:28:02.369 --> 00:28:05.470
be made as the 11th edition announcement. You're

00:28:05.470 --> 00:28:09.309
going to do a Super Mario World 2 on me? It was

00:28:09.309 --> 00:28:13.579
all a dream. To be honest, if they did Warhammer

00:28:13.579 --> 00:28:15.420
End Times, that would be a great little reset

00:28:15.420 --> 00:28:17.240
thing that they could do so that the universe

00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.599
still sticks around, but the Imperium gets crazy.

00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.420
Man just said End Times. Actual rogue traitor,

00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.720
though. Like, OG. It's like, what? The Imperium

00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.220
is a robot. Yeah, bring back the rule where you

00:28:29.220 --> 00:28:31.599
need to plan your robot's movement five turns

00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:38.140
in advance. That's awesome. The Emperor getting

00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:41.569
off the throne bit. Is this... before or after

00:28:41.569 --> 00:28:46.049
he gets jumped by the Grey Knights, though? Get

00:28:46.049 --> 00:28:50.230
over here! The only thing I question I have,

00:28:50.309 --> 00:28:53.190
bringing it back to a weird Terminus Decree stuff,

00:28:53.410 --> 00:28:57.049
the Emperor would just snap his finger and they're

00:28:57.049 --> 00:29:04.069
all gone. Would he, though? I feel like a lot

00:29:04.069 --> 00:29:07.089
of the anger comes from the assumption that it

00:29:07.089 --> 00:29:10.259
was never said. that the gray knights have a

00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:13.599
chance it's it's very much it is a snowball's

00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.119
chance in hell like i i feel like even they would

00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.839
acknowledge that yeah we're gonna get bodied

00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.400
the moment we hit big e but it's you know it's

00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:24.240
a last ditch hail mary to keep whatever monster

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.400
steps off on the chair but here's a here's a

00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:28.960
contention here's a question that might like

00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:32.220
ruffle some feathers like he made the custodians

00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:35.500
as his idea of what he wanted before the whole

00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:37.680
chaos shenanigans happened he's like we're gonna

00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.799
have peace eternal, we're going to live at large,

00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:43.519
it'll be great. He made the Grey Knights as well,

00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.420
and he made them for a more realistic depiction

00:29:45.420 --> 00:29:48.059
of what the future was going to be like. If push

00:29:48.059 --> 00:29:53.359
came to shove, who would he side with? The Kasays

00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.519
are not a side, though. They're like his will.

00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.880
They do whatever he says. They don't have the

00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:05.259
ability to turn against him, unless under very,

00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:08.769
very specific, like, chaos -y... overload corruption

00:30:08.769 --> 00:30:12.690
thing i mean i'm reading horus rc books right

00:30:12.690 --> 00:30:15.450
now for lodge cast and then in nemesis valdor

00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:17.490
himself is like keeping secrets from the emperor

00:30:17.490 --> 00:30:20.049
and yeah that's what i'm referring so he's a

00:30:20.049 --> 00:30:23.990
unique case though like that's i think yeah but

00:30:23.990 --> 00:30:26.230
no they're implying like because valdor has the

00:30:26.230 --> 00:30:29.589
spear that he has he supposedly is like seeing

00:30:29.589 --> 00:30:32.930
so like basically without the emperor talking

00:30:32.930 --> 00:30:35.430
to him for like basically years and years at

00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:37.990
some points and then he keeps learning about

00:30:37.990 --> 00:30:39.930
all these horrific things in the universe and

00:30:39.930 --> 00:30:45.049
obviously the far future it implies that it's

00:30:45.049 --> 00:30:47.809
important Malkador says like Valdor's kind of

00:30:47.809 --> 00:30:50.190
going like he for the first time he's making

00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:52.789
his own opinions on things and this was before

00:30:52.789 --> 00:30:57.789
that was written probably yeah well yeah I don't

00:30:57.789 --> 00:31:00.529
know if the modern custodians like if the emperor

00:31:00.529 --> 00:31:04.309
says jump they will say How high? I don't think

00:31:04.309 --> 00:31:08.210
they could plot against him, but Valdor maybe.

00:31:08.230 --> 00:31:11.490
They couldn't plot against him, but they could

00:31:11.490 --> 00:31:13.730
definitely outlive their usefulness, like the

00:31:13.730 --> 00:31:15.789
Thunder Warriors or even what was intended possibly

00:31:15.789 --> 00:31:17.730
for the Space Marines was like, you're not fit

00:31:17.730 --> 00:31:21.809
for purpose anymore. Skadoosh, get in the pit.

00:31:22.130 --> 00:31:25.650
Time for the range refresh. Yeah, exactly. We

00:31:25.650 --> 00:31:30.410
need new guys. Yeah. so i i know like i think

00:31:30.410 --> 00:31:32.470
the terminus decree is like the implementation

00:31:32.470 --> 00:31:34.490
is kind of bad because again it's just like theoretical

00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:37.069
at this point we don't really know how they would

00:31:37.069 --> 00:31:39.490
do it or what contingencies would be in place

00:31:39.490 --> 00:31:44.049
and it's like i don't know we'd have to see like

00:31:44.049 --> 00:31:46.109
i don't even know what the maximum numbers of

00:31:46.109 --> 00:31:49.789
grey knights there are because they're not beholden

00:31:49.789 --> 00:31:52.869
to the codex are they they're just there is a

00:31:52.869 --> 00:31:57.500
thousand though is it I have to double check

00:31:57.500 --> 00:31:59.380
on my, where's my bloody codex? Somewhere around

00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:01.539
here. I have to double check because I haven't

00:32:01.539 --> 00:32:03.559
looked at it. 10 ,000 custodians, which if it's

00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.099
10 versus 1, that's not very fair. Yeah, I feel

00:32:06.099 --> 00:32:08.599
like 10 ,000 seems like a realistic number, but

00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.519
I don't know. Because, like, it's 10 ,000 custodians

00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.900
because they are the 10 ,000. But, like, I thought

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:18.920
from recollection that... Grey Knights were a

00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.960
bit more like, we're cheeky sons. We're just

00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.619
really difficult to make and psychos and all

00:32:25.619 --> 00:32:28.539
that. If it's Matt Ward Grey Knights, they solo.

00:32:28.700 --> 00:32:34.019
They solo every time. Valdor Drago kills Valdor,

00:32:34.140 --> 00:32:38.559
kills every custodian. Kills Khorne. Becomes

00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:44.480
the Emperor. That's what I want to happen. Where's

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:49.740
Matt Ward when Eli and Colin are... You know,

00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:55.019
when the Avatar disappeared for 100 years. One

00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:58.500
from Irrational Sense here. Taking some time

00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.380
to think about it, I think having an actual human

00:33:00.380 --> 00:33:02.680
-to -human faction be the big and legitimately

00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.200
effective chaos threat to everyone else in the

00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.819
galaxy in the 40K timeline would probably make

00:33:07.819 --> 00:33:12.140
some people angry. Not Abaddon or chaos renegades

00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:14.640
like Huron, but a human leader and breakaway

00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.799
faction. Maybe like a jumped up Severan Dominate

00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.299
causing Goj Vandire levels of unrest, mostly

00:33:22.299 --> 00:33:24.480
because it mucks up the power scaling of a lot

00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.140
of people like to do. Well, again, it's like

00:33:28.140 --> 00:33:31.660
this idea of a fracturing of the Imperium would

00:33:31.660 --> 00:33:34.519
be cool to see. And I know they won't do it because

00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.279
it would have been fun to be like, oh, the Lion

00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.759
and Gilliman have differences of opinion. Therefore,

00:33:38.940 --> 00:33:42.240
the Imperium fights upon itself. kind of like

00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.019
a mini well not even a mini but like the equivalent

00:33:44.019 --> 00:33:47.180
of a dab war and then you could have like some

00:33:47.180 --> 00:33:50.460
chapters or factions choose not to get involved

00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:53.079
some are like well we're sons of the ultramarines

00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:56.039
therefore reciting with gilliman and then the

00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:57.960
unforgiven and then there's the whole like oh

00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.500
you know you kind of like refresh this the the

00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:03.720
set of guys you had but like we we haven't forgotten

00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:05.880
about the fallen now that we know about that

00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.539
oh we're going to bring that into the table like

00:34:07.539 --> 00:34:11.230
you could have some some fun shenanigans But

00:34:11.230 --> 00:34:13.610
I guess instead it'll just be, hey, brothers,

00:34:13.710 --> 00:34:15.489
let's fight chaos, because chaos is big and bad

00:34:15.489 --> 00:34:21.170
and scary, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I'd like

00:34:21.170 --> 00:34:24.949
this suggestion, though, because as I'm sure

00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:27.690
Paul Cullen, who's read a few Horus Heresy books

00:34:27.690 --> 00:34:31.289
recently, will tell you, the space marine characters

00:34:31.289 --> 00:34:33.630
are not as interesting as the human characters.

00:34:34.150 --> 00:34:36.210
The human -centered ones are always better books.

00:34:36.610 --> 00:34:40.929
Ignatius Carcassie, my beloved. yeah oh the best

00:34:40.929 --> 00:34:45.789
pairing is human dominated with space like humans

00:34:45.789 --> 00:34:48.170
interacting with space marines and like that's

00:34:48.170 --> 00:34:50.969
the that's cool that's the horror i guess of

00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:55.969
the future is a regular person trying to go up

00:34:55.969 --> 00:34:59.610
against like a super a super machine child soldier

00:34:59.610 --> 00:35:03.289
uh what was the rules the uh party said like

00:35:03.289 --> 00:35:05.530
was they wanted like a chaos like a main character

00:35:05.530 --> 00:35:08.340
trader guard type guy That'd be nice. Like a

00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:12.480
High Lords of Chaos almost style thing. Well,

00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.480
I think it's like maybe not even... Would you

00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:16.760
even need them to be... Because Chaos already

00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:20.019
has so much stuff. Could it just be like a, I

00:35:20.019 --> 00:35:22.320
think democracy is cool. What did you say? And

00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.039
then like, we think that we should have human

00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:27.239
rights faction. Oh no, we're not having that.

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.480
But then it's really enticing to all the hive

00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.280
dwellers who are like, we know we're probably

00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.380
going to lose and we're all going to die. And

00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:35.619
maybe we'll become like... fodder for the gods

00:35:35.619 --> 00:35:38.500
of chaos, but if it's working in the starch mine,

00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.840
you could have some breakaways as things get

00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.780
more desperate. This is basically like Tau sympathizer

00:35:44.780 --> 00:35:47.739
factions. Oh, but you can't like Xenos, so that's

00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:50.860
why they're different. You hate them. Yuck, they

00:35:50.860 --> 00:35:54.099
say. Surely there is more than one race in the

00:35:54.099 --> 00:35:57.300
galaxy that appreciates human rights. Surely

00:35:57.300 --> 00:36:07.340
it's not just them. more trader guard representation

00:36:07.340 --> 00:36:11.320
would be nice like that kind of stuff yeah so

00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:13.480
we had the audio blip there so to make sure people

00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:20.039
were awake wow we need to hold the uh the subway

00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.340
surfer thing well we have game players there

00:36:22.340 --> 00:36:26.119
that actually that is how it came about by the

00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:30.670
way like the jokes about having subway Oh dear.

00:36:31.309 --> 00:36:35.289
That's a good suggestion though. It is interesting.

00:36:35.469 --> 00:36:37.929
I think it's a good comment. I like that one.

00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:41.170
Who wants to read this one? From Main Event Virgil.

00:36:41.929 --> 00:36:44.670
I could rewrite the lore. I would make it so

00:36:44.670 --> 00:36:46.829
Xenos are an actual threat to the Imperium instead

00:36:46.829 --> 00:36:48.530
of something they curb stomp on the way to fight

00:36:48.530 --> 00:36:51.360
some chaos. I would also confirm that both Alpharius

00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.780
and Omegon are deceased. The one who was alive

00:36:53.780 --> 00:36:55.820
after the Horus Heresy stepped on a Lego and

00:36:55.820 --> 00:36:58.760
died because Frick the Alpha Legion smiley face.

00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.400
Wow. Sad days about the Alpha Legion, but yeah,

00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:09.039
Necrons, Zenos being a bigger threat would be

00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.920
nice. To be fair, the Necrons are the biggest

00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.519
threat. They just don't appear as often, I guess.

00:37:15.799 --> 00:37:18.440
I would like to honestly see more into Necron

00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.239
fighting, though, because they kind of tease

00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:28.039
us. They go, Sarek and Imhotek. Imhotek and Sarek.

00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.539
They were always teasing, like, oh, they're going

00:37:30.539 --> 00:37:32.760
to fight each other. It's like, when, please?

00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.320
They shouldn't fight each other. It's dumb. It

00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.699
doesn't make any sense why Imhotek would do that.

00:37:38.860 --> 00:37:42.880
It does. They all hate each other. yeah it's

00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.300
like a few noble people and one's like i'm a

00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:47.579
general and when i woke up all the people that

00:37:47.579 --> 00:37:49.179
were supposed to be in charge were useless so

00:37:49.179 --> 00:37:51.820
i deposed them and now the guy in charge is useless

00:37:51.820 --> 00:37:53.820
i want to depose him that makes perfect sense

00:37:53.820 --> 00:37:57.460
no emotex a very logical being and if given the

00:37:57.460 --> 00:38:00.679
option of destroying half of the entire necron

00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.219
empire that you cannot rebuild it would make

00:38:03.219 --> 00:38:04.800
no sense for him to do that at all they're not

00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.360
idiots like it makes sense better half than none

00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:12.599
better half than I don't know. If he somehow

00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.139
decided I can take over the entire galaxy with

00:38:15.139 --> 00:38:17.340
a quarter of the forces that were originally

00:38:17.340 --> 00:38:21.159
available to me, then maybe he would do it. They're

00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.840
all arrogant shits. I feel like his thing would

00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.119
be sunk cost. It'd be like, I don't want to see

00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.079
everything go bad. I want to at least salvage

00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.360
something. Sarek's leaving us down to annihilation,

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.940
and he's already made us suffer enough. He's

00:38:34.940 --> 00:38:38.139
already completely like... nuked our populace

00:38:38.139 --> 00:38:41.000
into automatons, I'm going to be the one who's

00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.119
going to salvage what little is left. It depends

00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:49.159
on how strong Zarek is, to be honest. If he has

00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.000
the entire Necron species on his side, then why

00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.760
would you try to fight that? He's been juicing

00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:02.280
as well. That guy is so tall. But why? Does he

00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.119
need to be that tall? Like, he's taller than

00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:11.900
every other Necron. Because he's cool. That's

00:39:11.900 --> 00:39:16.179
it? I still have to read the Dawn of Fire book

00:39:16.179 --> 00:39:20.000
or whatever, the newest one. I don't think he's

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.539
really that much in it. I know that he slaps

00:39:23.539 --> 00:39:26.619
Gilliman and tells him to go home, though. Average

00:39:26.619 --> 00:39:29.219
Warhammer book, guy on the cover, is not in book.

00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:36.789
Not again. Not since Fallen. The amount of the

00:39:36.789 --> 00:39:39.530
Warhammer books where the main people are not

00:39:39.530 --> 00:39:43.289
in it, or their side characters in their own

00:39:43.289 --> 00:39:47.929
novels. Honestly, they should be shoved into

00:39:47.929 --> 00:39:51.170
dirt. Brought up on charges. They should be bullied

00:39:51.170 --> 00:39:54.869
into dirt or something. I could see at least

00:39:54.869 --> 00:39:57.510
one conflict between Zarek and Imhotep, but I

00:39:57.510 --> 00:40:01.170
don't think it would be a prolonged thing. because

00:40:01.170 --> 00:40:03.610
i don't know it's like civil war is already dumb

00:40:03.610 --> 00:40:05.730
and it makes sense for the like goofy intrigue

00:40:05.730 --> 00:40:08.170
necrons but neither the silent king or immotech

00:40:08.170 --> 00:40:11.050
are the intrigue political guys and there's a

00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:13.650
finite number of necrons that cannot be recreated

00:40:13.650 --> 00:40:19.909
so yeah yeah perfect unless you're fighting hellbreak

00:40:19.909 --> 00:40:21.690
and then you can respawn as much as you want

00:40:21.690 --> 00:40:25.949
that's okay there's there's a finite number of

00:40:25.949 --> 00:40:29.079
necrons that resurrect all the time But once

00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.340
they're gone for real, then they're gone for

00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:35.820
real. Colin, would you like to read this one

00:40:35.820 --> 00:40:39.639
from Appalachian? Sure. Anyways, here's my crackpot

00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.840
idea. Just kind of the simple idea of having

00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.239
Horus think for five minutes when Erebus was

00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.739
gaslighting all bullshit on his claims. And it

00:40:49.739 --> 00:40:51.780
just kind of spirals from there into madness

00:40:51.780 --> 00:40:54.199
at a prospering Imperium and human -dominated

00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.440
Milky Way for a while. before stagnating into

00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.920
a civil war that turned most of the galaxy uninhabitable

00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.380
and humanity in the interstellar dark age again.

00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:09.539
Kind of neat. Respectable. I don't know. That'd

00:41:09.539 --> 00:41:14.139
be cool to see, but I don't know. It'd be cool.

00:41:15.340 --> 00:41:17.300
But then what are we going to have 54 books about?

00:41:17.460 --> 00:41:20.639
Yeah, I suppose there's the problem. The happy

00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.780
ending. This just sounds like, look, they're

00:41:22.780 --> 00:41:24.699
pushing the Horus heresy down the line until

00:41:24.699 --> 00:41:26.760
someone gets pissy enough rather than chaos.

00:41:28.300 --> 00:41:31.739
And here's Dawn and Perturabo frolicking through

00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:34.460
a brick foundry. Oh, amazing. They're having

00:41:34.460 --> 00:41:38.539
great fun. I love masonry. Me too, brother. And

00:41:38.539 --> 00:41:43.599
they got on forever. I just don't get why Horus

00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.880
is... between Erebus and Magnus goes, I will

00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.920
not be manipulated. And proceeds to let himself

00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:55.079
be manipulated by Erebus. I'm surprised he didn't

00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:58.039
bean Erebus on the spot, to be honest. Every

00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.860
Primarch is arrogant. They think that the Wessers

00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:03.840
can't get the better of them. Not every Primarch,

00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.340
but a lot of them. Or certainly was. Like, Gilliman's

00:42:08.340 --> 00:42:12.320
the only one who doesn't like Primarch. And even

00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.070
then, Gilliman's doing it. for like political

00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:17.369
favors he's like i'm seeing the long game like

00:42:17.369 --> 00:42:19.230
the scouring book is really good for that so

00:42:19.230 --> 00:42:21.230
i suggest reading that if you want to see how

00:42:21.230 --> 00:42:23.250
how much the primarchs are like i know we just

00:42:23.250 --> 00:42:25.269
caused a massive civil war but like we should

00:42:25.269 --> 00:42:28.050
still be in charge and all the mortars like you

00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:32.929
sure about that no and much as it hates me to

00:42:32.929 --> 00:42:35.750
say this technically erbis is a very successful

00:42:35.750 --> 00:42:42.329
like he did kind of win Well, his face got torn

00:42:42.329 --> 00:42:45.110
off, but other than that... You can fix that

00:42:45.110 --> 00:42:47.809
with chaos juice, no problem. He literally says,

00:42:47.969 --> 00:42:50.769
like, I could fix it in a heartbeat, but he doesn't,

00:42:50.769 --> 00:42:54.369
because he says he likes the reminder. He likes

00:42:54.369 --> 00:42:58.050
the fact that it happened. God, what an arsehole.

00:43:00.929 --> 00:43:03.650
Meanwhile, Eidolon's going, could you fix my

00:43:03.650 --> 00:43:07.460
face, please? He's like, no, brother. No, I don't

00:43:07.460 --> 00:43:10.119
want to. What a dick. I feel like that question

00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:11.900
though would be if they did some like that, you

00:43:11.900 --> 00:43:14.239
know, like that Marvel, what if like one or two

00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.559
books and like an alternate timeline, like that'd

00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:21.219
be neat. That'd be cool. I have a, I have a current

00:43:21.219 --> 00:43:25.199
pay, like word document up for an episode I wanted

00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:30.219
to do, which is the Corvian heresy. And we're

00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:33.519
going to write. our version of the Horus heresy.

00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.219
Essentially, we're in bullet points because we're

00:43:36.219 --> 00:43:40.860
not right now. The secret sauce is that nothing

00:43:40.860 --> 00:43:43.820
happens because the writers forget Corvus Correx.

00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:48.800
Exactly. I'd rather have the Glopshittian heresy,

00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:51.599
which is a bunch of mortal people overthrowing

00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.159
the Primarchs through tactical... Let's put a

00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.340
nuke inside their warship so they can't run from

00:43:56.340 --> 00:43:58.940
it and stuff like that. Let's exterminate them

00:43:58.940 --> 00:44:00.800
while they're having tea. Do something like that.

00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:05.139
I changed one digit in your navigation data.

00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.300
You're now in a black hole. You just translated

00:44:08.300 --> 00:44:12.300
through a sun. Enjoy, Bozo. Shout out to the

00:44:12.300 --> 00:44:15.280
one guy who said in a previous video we did,

00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.679
he said, just make the Primarchs the same size

00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:20.059
as the Space Marines, and that is an amazing

00:44:20.059 --> 00:44:24.059
suggestion. In general. They are special, and

00:44:24.059 --> 00:44:26.460
they're pretty strong compared to Space Marines,

00:44:26.539 --> 00:44:29.070
but... like if they were just the normal like

00:44:29.070 --> 00:44:32.510
why do they have to be like you know funny if

00:44:32.510 --> 00:44:35.409
they were normal people so yeah well here's the

00:44:35.409 --> 00:44:37.349
thing that that's the case with one of the lost

00:44:37.349 --> 00:44:39.690
primarchs he was basically normal size and so

00:44:39.690 --> 00:44:41.250
they thought he was cringe and they lost him

00:44:41.250 --> 00:44:49.340
in the ground like no short case They put him

00:44:49.340 --> 00:44:52.840
on one of those stretching racks, and they tried

00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.460
to make him bigger, and he died on the table.

00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.079
They're like, eesh. Throw him into the sun, I

00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.639
guess. Lost Primark. The Emperor accidentally

00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.340
overstretched him and tried to hide the evidence.

00:45:04.659 --> 00:45:07.260
Yeah, that's the real secret. The embarrassment.

00:45:10.019 --> 00:45:16.539
Whoopsie. Whoopsie. Oh, we are stupid. Next one.

00:45:17.579 --> 00:45:20.619
The next one is from Yawar. Have you guys all

00:45:20.619 --> 00:45:23.880
done one? Do you want to do this one, Hal? Yawar

00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:28.139
says, Dawn is back to being very dead. They only

00:45:28.139 --> 00:45:35.760
found his hands. More marines do the whole breeding

00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.719
world thing the Death Spectres did. Oh, the Crimson

00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.500
Fist lore. Also, make them look more like mutated

00:45:44.500 --> 00:45:46.840
roid monkeys instead of, like, ruggedly handsome.

00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.780
Make it obvious that 95 % of marines are basically

00:45:50.780 --> 00:45:54.219
monsters with an inhuman sense of honour. The

00:45:54.219 --> 00:45:56.940
Tau start redeploying their kaiju Xenos allies

00:45:56.940 --> 00:46:01.119
and start punching titans. This makes no sense,

00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:03.980
but I want it to happen. And an Eldar Aspect

00:46:03.980 --> 00:46:08.380
Shrine is based on gun - Oh, so real. Quake TFT,

00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:13.119
or TF2 -style rockets. Wow. So real. By the way,

00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.619
why... Oh, sorry, go for it. The Space Marine

00:46:16.619 --> 00:46:18.500
stuff's pretty much what they were in Rogue Trader,

00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:24.519
right? Back in the day. Monsters. Yeah, fair

00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.960
enough. Space Marines were weird. All I'm going

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.440
to say is, why have we not had an orc yet called

00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.880
Titan Puncher? That would have been amazing.

00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:34.659
I feel like, yeah. Even if he was just like a

00:46:34.659 --> 00:46:37.039
guy like, he didn't live for long. What happened?

00:46:37.219 --> 00:46:40.010
He punched a titan. Then it trod on him. Oh,

00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:42.429
we had a pretty amazing blaze of glory. Just

00:46:42.429 --> 00:46:46.769
like, ugh! And then the Titan goes, squish. That'd

00:46:46.769 --> 00:46:52.409
be good. I don't know. I like that. What was

00:46:52.409 --> 00:46:55.429
the first suggestion part? Let me look it up.

00:46:56.010 --> 00:47:00.789
I can look it up, can't I? They said... Do the

00:47:00.789 --> 00:47:06.119
whole reading wall thing. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and

00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.820
Dawn being very dead and just remaining. They

00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:11.539
found one of his hands. See, this is my thing

00:47:11.539 --> 00:47:15.019
of, I love Horus Heresy. Kill more Primarchs,

00:47:15.019 --> 00:47:19.760
please. Kill more Primarchs in the Heresy. Some

00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.980
of them, like, Gilamon the Lion, that's okay.

00:47:24.059 --> 00:47:28.099
I'm okay with that. Like, it's okay. Lorgar,

00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.800
Horus, all the chaos ones have to live is the

00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.619
problem. Not the undivided ones, though. He's

00:47:36.619 --> 00:47:40.239
still a demon prince. They're coming back. What

00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.880
I mean is I would have killed them off if I had

00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:48.579
the power to do that. You could have a demon

00:47:48.579 --> 00:47:50.739
prince that calls itself Lorgar. You don't actually

00:47:50.739 --> 00:47:54.179
have to say that's actually Lorgar. What we need

00:47:54.179 --> 00:47:58.360
to do, Hal, is we need to petition. We'll do

00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.780
a change .org petition. And we'll say, we would

00:48:02.780 --> 00:48:05.420
like 100 ,000 signatures so that Games Workshop

00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:08.980
commission a John Grammaticus mini armed with

00:48:08.980 --> 00:48:14.599
a deus ex machina, a .k .a. fulgurite. And he's

00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.840
like, I've got seven of them. And then he just

00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.059
goes on a rampage trying to kill all of the demon

00:48:19.059 --> 00:48:22.860
primates. He's got a one -up ward save. I don't

00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:27.860
feel no pain. It would have been cool if, like,

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.659
after Fulgrim kills Varys, he feels so bad that

00:48:30.659 --> 00:48:32.960
he turns on the traitors and then dies on Istvan

00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.559
with his brother. I would like that. I like the

00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.639
idea of, like, the demon Primarchs. Like, some

00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.619
of them are not the actual demon Primarch themselves,

00:48:43.739 --> 00:48:45.800
but they're made from, like, their dead soul

00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.199
or something. Like, it's not them, but it's,

00:48:49.219 --> 00:48:52.639
like, them in undeath in some sense, which could

00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.400
be a cool way. Like, you know, any of the undivided

00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.289
ones, let them die. Like, cause let Abaddon have

00:48:58.289 --> 00:49:01.630
his thing. Uh, Gilliman, the lion could be like

00:49:01.630 --> 00:49:05.230
the last two, uh, Jagatai Khan. We'll never know

00:49:05.230 --> 00:49:07.349
what happens to him. Uh, he's going back next.

00:49:08.329 --> 00:49:11.130
Furniture. No, no, no. Chris, Chris Ray chair

00:49:11.130 --> 00:49:13.949
says we're going to get Jagatai. Then we're going

00:49:13.949 --> 00:49:15.650
to get Corvus. Mark my words. Everyone's like

00:49:15.650 --> 00:49:17.750
Lehman and door. I'm like, no, if Chris rates

00:49:17.750 --> 00:49:19.590
the goat and he wrote the first scarring book

00:49:19.590 --> 00:49:22.719
and he said in his, uh, Yeah, I'll storm call

00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:24.519
a book that they would be Gilliman then the lion

00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:27.739
then Jagat I yeah Jagat I then call this and

00:49:27.739 --> 00:49:31.260
that's what I'm gonna say because it's real also

00:49:31.260 --> 00:49:35.880
I do like Mike's one here which is saying five

00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:39.619
out of 19 Primark's dead is quite a bit. Yeah

00:49:39.619 --> 00:49:44.780
Make it more like as a story sends it particularly

00:49:44.780 --> 00:49:47.900
like the, what's the book called? Slaves of Darkness.

00:49:48.219 --> 00:49:50.320
It's one of the last books of the Horus heresy.

00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.480
They have a second triumph for Elinor, like the

00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.019
dark triumph where they all assemble the demon

00:49:56.019 --> 00:49:59.219
Primarchs and the chaos line ones together. And

00:49:59.219 --> 00:50:02.860
Logar tries to betray Horus by like enslaving

00:50:02.860 --> 00:50:05.679
Fulgrim through his like true name. And then

00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.559
he tries to get him to attack Horus, who's not

00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:12.369
a demon yet. And like, horus should have just

00:50:12.369 --> 00:50:14.889
be he lets him go but like he's just like i'm

00:50:14.889 --> 00:50:16.489
gonna kill you now it makes no sense he should

00:50:16.489 --> 00:50:20.409
have beamed his head in only only two loyalists

00:50:20.409 --> 00:50:23.909
primarks dying is kind of silly to be like yeah

00:50:23.909 --> 00:50:28.670
let's let's call this Let one more of them. Doing

00:50:28.670 --> 00:50:34.590
the crying policeman meanwhile. Let Vulcan and

00:50:34.590 --> 00:50:36.969
Corvus die. We haven't got anything. That would

00:50:36.969 --> 00:50:40.050
have been crazy. Vulcan and Corvus die and they

00:50:40.050 --> 00:50:42.130
take out a traitor with them or something like

00:50:42.130 --> 00:50:47.130
that. I don't know. It would be so cool if they

00:50:47.130 --> 00:50:50.210
die. More of them died in the Siege of Terra.

00:50:50.389 --> 00:50:53.070
That would also be cool. What is your opinion

00:50:53.070 --> 00:50:56.420
on Warhammany to do more closing the loop? where

00:50:56.420 --> 00:50:58.119
it's like, similar to that, it's like, have a

00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.340
Primark, have an Ark, and then die, like Conrad

00:51:01.340 --> 00:51:04.159
Kurz. Have this character, because even like

00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:06.079
Caiaphas Kane is technically killed in action,

00:51:06.219 --> 00:51:09.639
right? It's like, the characters need to have

00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.860
a tenure, and as much as people like Yarek's

00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:15.559
back, a part of my soul died, because I was also

00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.139
a bit like, same again, it was like, we're going

00:51:19.139 --> 00:51:20.420
to have another war for Armageddon, we've got

00:51:20.420 --> 00:51:22.559
four of them, do we need another one? We have

00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.039
another planet. When they released the Space

00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.989
Wolves, refresh and they said we're going back

00:51:27.989 --> 00:51:30.369
to armageddon did they ever talk about that ever

00:51:30.369 --> 00:51:32.510
again it's it's in the one with the grey knight

00:51:32.510 --> 00:51:34.090
on the front isn't it where it's like it's the

00:51:34.090 --> 00:51:38.230
crusades it's like the maelstrom they should

00:51:38.230 --> 00:51:40.250
be treating they should have it like fantasy

00:51:40.250 --> 00:51:43.710
where characters die especially guardsman characters

00:51:43.710 --> 00:51:45.690
but their models are still around and you can

00:51:45.690 --> 00:51:49.409
still play with them on the table yeah i'm still

00:51:49.409 --> 00:51:52.710
a bit salty that erasmus tycho is never been

00:51:52.710 --> 00:51:54.909
fully realized but it's like i don't want him

00:51:54.909 --> 00:51:58.289
to come back because i'm like he's dead and i

00:51:58.289 --> 00:52:01.230
don't really want a prequel about taiko because

00:52:01.230 --> 00:52:02.849
he's already had a bit of spotlight it's just

00:52:02.849 --> 00:52:04.969
can we just have maybe a an established character

00:52:04.969 --> 00:52:10.550
have an arc and die or something uh even like

00:52:10.550 --> 00:52:13.889
i i was a bit miffed with i think we were all

00:52:13.889 --> 00:52:15.610
a bit miffed who are space marine fans at least

00:52:15.610 --> 00:52:18.090
with like oh cave on shrike is now not chapter

00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:20.360
master anymore and now it's Another guy who was

00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:26.159
in one book. Aethon Sharn. Okay, why? Is Shrike

00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.099
dead? No, he's just standing down. Because the

00:52:28.099 --> 00:52:31.440
model wasn't cool enough. When the setting wasn't

00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.860
ever progressing, it's a lot easier to have characters

00:52:34.860 --> 00:52:36.599
that are dead and still be writing books about

00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.940
them and stuff. But if it's progressing, you

00:52:38.940 --> 00:52:40.940
always have to be replacing these dead characters.

00:52:41.019 --> 00:52:43.099
And so then they get forgotten and never talked

00:52:43.099 --> 00:52:44.880
about again. And Space Wolves, like, we need

00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.420
two new companies to replace the Iron Wolves

00:52:47.420 --> 00:52:49.039
and the other one. I'm like, oh, here we go.

00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:51.420
I'm not doing another Space Wolves video. Sorry,

00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.059
guys. I'm not doing it. It depends how long they

00:52:55.059 --> 00:52:58.219
want to go on for it. Like, there's six Ragnar

00:52:58.219 --> 00:53:01.099
Blackmane books. But the thing is, they all start,

00:53:01.300 --> 00:53:04.920
like, even with the third book, he's still young.

00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.440
yeah going through like a character like he's

00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.280
not he's not finished it whereas like it's different

00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.119
like if i'm i'm sure colin would agree like the

00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.019
kyphos cane books i am not here for the character

00:53:16.019 --> 00:53:20.199
arc whatsoever no i'm i'm here for the funnies

00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:23.280
yeah you know every now and again one of those

00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.199
novelties can't you a character arc does happen

00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:28.099
in those every now and again but it is mostly

00:53:28.099 --> 00:53:31.650
there for the funnies But it's also his thing.

00:53:31.730 --> 00:53:35.429
It's intertwined with funny man does the shenanigans,

00:53:35.510 --> 00:53:39.670
and that's his space in the setting. But I don't

00:53:39.670 --> 00:53:42.769
want ten of those in the setting, because Lucas

00:53:42.769 --> 00:53:45.030
is already in that territory a bit, and he had

00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:46.670
a book. I'm like, cool, that's all we needed.

00:53:46.809 --> 00:53:51.010
Thanks. But then with Ragnar, he came back for

00:53:51.010 --> 00:53:55.800
the War of the Bees. Saga of the Beast. And it

00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.360
was like, he kind of killed Gazgul, but he didn't

00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.619
really. And he became a Primaris. Are we ever

00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:05.099
going to see Ragnar again? No. Like I was saying

00:54:05.099 --> 00:54:10.480
earlier, you have one funny guy and 99 men doing

00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:15.460
their duty because they must. You also got Hagar

00:54:15.460 --> 00:54:20.280
who dies. He's the fat space marine. He was a

00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.210
real one. He was a real one. He was a space marine

00:54:23.210 --> 00:54:25.630
so large they had to give him custom armor because

00:54:25.630 --> 00:54:29.190
he was so fat. And Torrin, his friend, was also

00:54:29.190 --> 00:54:31.869
a... And Torrin survived, but he was like, he

00:54:31.869 --> 00:54:35.190
drank wine and he had like, he was groomed hair.

00:54:35.369 --> 00:54:39.269
The guy who has the thin mustache. Yeah, he was

00:54:39.269 --> 00:54:43.110
like Errol Flynn in space. Cool. And that's what

00:54:43.110 --> 00:54:45.809
I like. And again, that was a really early Warhammer

00:54:45.809 --> 00:54:47.449
book, but I'd like to see more stuff where it's

00:54:47.449 --> 00:54:50.739
like... Novelty is too strong a word, but it's

00:54:50.739 --> 00:54:53.820
like maybe some interesting quirky things going

00:54:53.820 --> 00:54:57.320
on here and there. And some stuff that just isn't

00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:01.719
just close cropped haircut space marine who is

00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.139
stoic in every chapter and doesn't really have

00:55:05.139 --> 00:55:08.039
any defining features. Like Seth is cool, but

00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.360
he's gone through devastation of Baal and now

00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:12.530
we'll never see him again. I mean, the problem

00:55:12.530 --> 00:55:14.269
with Space Marines, though, is they're not human

00:55:14.269 --> 00:55:17.789
and they're all kind of the same. At least, it'll

00:55:17.789 --> 00:55:19.530
have to be like that, I know, but that's kind

00:55:19.530 --> 00:55:22.329
of how they were set up at first. Even one that

00:55:22.329 --> 00:55:23.730
was interesting, I've been doing research on

00:55:23.730 --> 00:55:25.550
Lysander recently, and everyone just thinks,

00:55:25.590 --> 00:55:27.849
oh, he's just like stoic Space Marine, but in

00:55:27.849 --> 00:55:30.530
his books, he sacrifices a Tech Marine brother

00:55:30.530 --> 00:55:33.030
to a demon in order to kill the demon and banish

00:55:33.030 --> 00:55:36.170
it. He makes deals on a demon planet with other

00:55:36.170 --> 00:55:39.159
demons to kill... an iron warrior character like

00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:42.300
he he tests his morals and he gets through it

00:55:42.300 --> 00:55:44.760
because he's all like gotta do what i gotta do

00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.239
i'm like that's quite interesting but we're never

00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.460
getting another lysander book even though you

00:55:49.460 --> 00:55:51.460
just got another new mini and i'm like what's

00:55:51.460 --> 00:55:54.800
going on what's going on i think it's it's there's

00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.360
a general thing about it's because we're so far

00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.980
into warhammer lore like you know like we need

00:56:00.980 --> 00:56:05.679
we're we're so far in the tech tree that we have

00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:09.159
maybe explored most of the things within the

00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:11.059
limits of like you say they're not warhammer

00:56:11.059 --> 00:56:15.400
anymore so someone kind we what we need is someone

00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.960
or at least some of the novels willing to be

00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:22.619
a bit braver and try something new because otherwise

00:56:22.619 --> 00:56:24.599
you're going to get another spray spring novel

00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.119
like let me guess he goes to planet and has a

00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.719
difficult fight but he emerges victorious like

00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:35.719
you can't keep doing the formula every once That's

00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.059
why one -off characters are great, and books

00:56:38.059 --> 00:56:39.840
that don't have main characters in them are really

00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.019
good, because they can actually kill people and

00:56:43.019 --> 00:56:45.059
stuff like that. And you can actually see a character

00:56:45.059 --> 00:56:47.300
change and grow and all that. That's why guard

00:56:47.300 --> 00:56:51.980
books are so enjoyable. God, we're far from the

00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:54.719
original point, I think, at the dawn bit. A little

00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.079
bit. Should we do some donations before we go

00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:01.510
any further? So the first one from Chaotic. Hello,

00:57:01.590 --> 00:57:04.929
Chaotic. Hello, Chaotic. He's been here for five

00:57:04.929 --> 00:57:08.309
months as a member. Yes. I think we need more

00:57:08.309 --> 00:57:10.449
half -naked space marines. Wow. There you go.

00:57:11.389 --> 00:57:16.210
Which half? Straight out the gate. Is this the

00:57:16.210 --> 00:57:22.909
mermaid question of... Yeah, I... That just reminds

00:57:22.909 --> 00:57:25.909
me of Red Dwarf of Cat when he sees a mermaid

00:57:25.909 --> 00:57:28.150
and it's the head on the top and it's the legs.

00:57:28.329 --> 00:57:29.989
She walks out of there and he's like, cooey!

00:57:30.389 --> 00:57:33.150
And Lister's like, isn't that the wrong way around?

00:57:33.289 --> 00:57:35.449
And Cat's like, no! That's the stupid way up.

00:57:36.630 --> 00:57:43.849
Like, ew. Oh no. Yeah. Tyborough's the colorblind

00:57:43.849 --> 00:57:45.980
wig. Thank you for being a member for eight months.

00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.539
Lord Strange, every Angron scene, his hog is

00:57:49.539 --> 00:57:52.800
out. Actually, if Angron was just a naked dude

00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:55.840
running around all the time, that would be character

00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.260
fitting and kind of awesome. His only voice line

00:57:58.260 --> 00:58:00.780
now is the Roadhog ult. I'm ready to go full

00:58:00.780 --> 00:58:05.940
hog. Just mod the final battle from Dante's Inferno

00:58:05.940 --> 00:58:08.360
where you fight Satan, and he's got his willy

00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.000
just flopping around. The poor Grey Knight is

00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:16.239
fighting under his legs. the third sword oh my

00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:22.320
god crazyaxeman1751 thanks for the two bucks

00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:28.760
man I got timed out in DAVC for not saying that

00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:32.079
oh bro you got timed out in the VC for not saying

00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:37.300
you should continue not saying that that doesn't

00:58:37.300 --> 00:58:40.800
sound like a reason that seems no that doesn't

00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:47.539
seem right that's the wrong way around you know

00:58:47.539 --> 00:58:49.940
that weird pyramid thing that mechanicus wants

00:58:49.940 --> 00:58:52.519
i would make it open up and it would release

00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.239
all the 30k xenos back into 40k like the crave

00:58:55.239 --> 00:59:01.460
that's cool that's quick you could have action

00:59:01.460 --> 00:59:05.579
thank you like xenos undivided and it's just

00:59:05.579 --> 00:59:09.000
some leader because i've all those like species

00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:12.440
you tried to purge during the great crusade I've

00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:14.300
been on the telephone. I've got them all here.

00:59:14.780 --> 00:59:18.059
Enjoy, bitches. That'd be fun. I'd love it if

00:59:18.059 --> 00:59:21.119
the Interrex randomly showed up again. Just like,

00:59:21.179 --> 00:59:25.119
we didn't get them all, guys. Enjoy our centaur

00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.480
bow -wielding humans. It's like a Batman who

00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:31.400
fought alongside aliens. 10 ,000 years in the

00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:34.360
making. By the way, Keag Noom has requested that

00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:38.119
we choose a maid outfit in the... Yes. I have

00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:41.929
chosen. wow okay hold on number three please

00:59:41.929 --> 00:59:46.610
uh spooky kabuki one two two thank you man our

00:59:46.610 --> 00:59:50.869
resident uh rules uh lawyer thank you man uh

00:59:50.869 --> 00:59:55.030
five bucks thank you man uh imagine ross wasn't

00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:58.750
a moron and the loyalists had the strongest psyker

00:59:58.750 --> 01:00:01.170
in the galaxy other than big e on their side

01:00:01.170 --> 01:00:05.010
hashtag magnus for life crazy crazy our resident

01:00:05.010 --> 01:00:10.710
thousand sons player I do hate that if Ross had

01:00:10.710 --> 01:00:12.849
grown up on another planet, he would be less

01:00:12.849 --> 01:00:20.170
of an idiot. Crazy Axeman, 7051, thank you for

01:00:20.170 --> 01:00:22.449
being a member for four months. You paint your

01:00:22.449 --> 01:00:26.309
Kriegers as purple Kriegers. So the orcs can't

01:00:26.309 --> 01:00:32.110
see it. I'm a tank. I'm a tank. Thank you all

01:00:32.110 --> 01:00:34.150
for your attention. Thank you very much, everybody.

01:00:37.699 --> 01:00:41.280
Next few. Have we done this one? Oh, here we

01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:44.920
go. This one's for you, Eli, I think. I would

01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:47.320
make the Tao unironically the good guys instead

01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:49.360
of brainwashing the other cast for a very important

01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.800
reason. There is a prevailing idea in the fandom

01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:53.579
that the Imperium is oppressive and tyrannical

01:00:53.579 --> 01:00:56.079
because it has to be in order to survive. This

01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:57.920
is not only not true, but the Imperium survived

01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.019
in spite of its oppression, not because of it.

01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.429
A morally good... Tao Empire would help to demonstrate

01:01:03.429 --> 01:01:05.329
that fact and highlight the needless cruelty

01:01:05.329 --> 01:01:07.789
and self -destruct nature of the Imperium. That's

01:01:07.789 --> 01:01:11.690
what I liked about the Inter -X. Nope, Phil Kelly

01:01:11.690 --> 01:01:13.090
is going to keep writing Tao books and they're

01:01:13.090 --> 01:01:15.829
going to suck forever. To be fair, if you read

01:01:15.829 --> 01:01:19.030
non -Phil Kelly Tao books, that is still what

01:01:19.030 --> 01:01:20.829
the Tao are. So if you just ignore all the stupid

01:01:20.829 --> 01:01:22.650
Farsight books, then the Tao are still pretty

01:01:22.650 --> 01:01:26.869
good. Which is all of them. Most of them, unfortunately.

01:01:27.230 --> 01:01:29.809
Four books, yeah. It's like over half of the

01:01:29.809 --> 01:01:31.409
Tao books are written by Phil Kelly, I think.

01:01:32.150 --> 01:01:36.849
There are still the good guys who have to do

01:01:36.849 --> 01:01:39.730
some bad things every once in a while in most

01:01:39.730 --> 01:01:43.329
of their other books. Phil Kelly did War of Secrets

01:01:43.329 --> 01:01:45.610
as well, where he made the Dark Angels look terrible.

01:01:45.869 --> 01:01:50.010
Oh, no. And the Tao were in that one as well.

01:01:50.010 --> 01:01:52.289
He's not doing anything for the Tao, even when

01:01:52.289 --> 01:01:54.230
it's not about Farsight. No, get him out of here.

01:01:54.309 --> 01:01:58.110
Get him out of here. He can be an okay... to

01:01:58.110 --> 01:02:00.650
good writer i just disagree with direction he

01:02:00.650 --> 01:02:03.690
takes like i don't think it's like you're not

01:02:03.690 --> 01:02:07.650
poorly written it's just i wouldn't choose that

01:02:07.650 --> 01:02:15.070
yeah really bad or if tigris is objective yeah

01:02:15.070 --> 01:02:17.849
the whole subplot of like oh the dark angels

01:02:17.849 --> 01:02:19.750
are going to kill their own primaris just to

01:02:19.750 --> 01:02:21.250
prevent them from learning about the holland

01:02:21.250 --> 01:02:24.500
even though like that's virtually gone like i

01:02:24.500 --> 01:02:25.980
was just going to completely doom our chapter

01:02:25.980 --> 01:02:28.659
from ever being reinforced ever again and we're

01:02:28.659 --> 01:02:30.960
really sloppy about how we keep this secret it's

01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.440
like this doesn't make any cohesive sense and

01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.980
there's a tau warp god now oh yeah so stupid

01:02:36.980 --> 01:02:42.159
so stupid oh oh how i almost got blown off the

01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:45.360
edge there on the uh the gameplay yeah and uh

01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:48.969
on the other note In 30K, the Imperium survived

01:02:48.969 --> 01:02:51.530
despite the oppression. In 40K, unfortunately,

01:02:51.730 --> 01:02:53.349
without the oppression, most people would turn

01:02:53.349 --> 01:02:55.789
to chaos and gene stealers and it would be bad.

01:02:56.090 --> 01:02:58.690
No. Everything's ruined in 40K. That's the whole

01:02:58.690 --> 01:03:00.849
point. No, the entire point is that everything's

01:03:00.849 --> 01:03:04.130
ruined in 40K. 30K, Horus Heresy destroyed what

01:03:04.130 --> 01:03:06.369
the Imperium could have been and chaos is led

01:03:06.369 --> 01:03:07.710
into the chaos. It would have been awful without

01:03:07.710 --> 01:03:12.730
chaos. It would have been better. They didn't

01:03:12.730 --> 01:03:14.449
need the oppression before the freaking chaos

01:03:14.449 --> 01:03:16.190
stuff came out. Now they oppress people because

01:03:16.190 --> 01:03:18.630
of chaos. There's two other whole settings about

01:03:18.630 --> 01:03:20.869
how to deal with chaos without being a total

01:03:20.869 --> 01:03:23.369
prick. I don't know. There are bits in the Horror's

01:03:23.369 --> 01:03:25.570
Heresy where it's just like, Space Marine number

01:03:25.570 --> 01:03:28.710
75 looked at his arming slave and went, here's

01:03:28.710 --> 01:03:31.909
what now? It wasn't good. It was a lot better,

01:03:32.010 --> 01:03:35.789
though. It was hard to see my goat. He knew.

01:03:36.849 --> 01:03:39.550
It was still bad. The Emperor's still a jerk.

01:03:39.750 --> 01:03:43.039
They tried to silence him. All these woke Imperials,

01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.420
they try to decide it's my boy Ignace. Eventually

01:03:45.420 --> 01:03:48.159
we're going to fall and they beat him half to

01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:51.579
death. It was not better. It was better. I don't

01:03:51.579 --> 01:03:53.579
think you can say that it wasn't better than

01:03:53.579 --> 01:03:55.719
it is now. At least we didn't have to worry about

01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:58.000
becoming, like, Gribblies. That's, like, an extra

01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.000
problem on top. And the Ecclesiarchy wasn't around.

01:04:00.179 --> 01:04:02.460
You still had to worry about becoming a Gribbly.

01:04:02.539 --> 01:04:04.260
They just didn't tell you you might become a

01:04:04.260 --> 01:04:06.900
Gribbly. Not like an anime Gribbly. Not like

01:04:06.900 --> 01:04:08.539
a, look how many tentacles can come out of my

01:04:08.539 --> 01:04:11.480
arse. It was so much more minimal until they

01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:13.639
were let in. Because the Emperor handed them

01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:19.260
an army. I have this part in my head where...

01:04:19.809 --> 01:04:23.929
So, like, annoyingly, in, like, Warhammer lore,

01:04:24.030 --> 01:04:27.809
the Emperor says, like, he does his whole Great

01:04:27.809 --> 01:04:30.929
Crusade and his whole arc thing, because he says

01:04:30.929 --> 01:04:34.570
if he doesn't do this, the human race will eventually

01:04:34.570 --> 01:04:38.789
be, like, destroyed by either Xenos or, like,

01:04:38.789 --> 01:04:42.650
by Chaos, by, like, whatever version of the human

01:04:42.650 --> 01:04:46.949
version of the Sonesh bomb that goes off. But

01:04:46.949 --> 01:04:49.969
I'm of the, I like the idea of, I don't know

01:04:49.969 --> 01:04:52.590
if GW ever do this because it's a weird part.

01:04:53.469 --> 01:04:55.869
They don't want this vibe on their lore, but

01:04:55.869 --> 01:04:59.130
I like the idea the only reason humanity ever

01:04:59.130 --> 01:05:02.969
is in trouble with chaos is because they rise

01:05:02.969 --> 01:05:06.929
to the threat that is the Emperor. I like that

01:05:06.929 --> 01:05:10.630
idea of the Emperor... He's the ultimate problem

01:05:10.630 --> 01:05:13.250
because if the Emperor hadn't done what... If

01:05:13.250 --> 01:05:15.869
there was no future where he did that and he

01:05:15.869 --> 01:05:17.969
just let humanity do whatever it wanted to do,

01:05:18.010 --> 01:05:22.550
it would be okay. It would survive. It would

01:05:22.550 --> 01:05:24.489
be like the Eldar. At some other point, it would

01:05:24.489 --> 01:05:27.449
minimally fall to power. Another thing would

01:05:27.449 --> 01:05:31.210
rise. Good old squid people or something. Or

01:05:31.210 --> 01:05:35.429
the dolphin people. It's meant to happen. I talked

01:05:35.429 --> 01:05:46.570
about that in my last video. Just finishing off

01:05:46.570 --> 01:05:51.639
the point, which was... I assume in Games Workshop's

01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:54.260
vision slash in Warhammer lore in general, this

01:05:54.260 --> 01:05:57.980
is what I think, that the whole point, like,

01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.619
it's the reason that the, like Elo has said,

01:06:00.659 --> 01:06:02.280
like, you know, there's a story of, like, the

01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:04.719
Forge World riot or the other planets where if

01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.679
you don't comply with the Imperium, if you don't

01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:11.460
have horrible conditions and other things, you

01:06:11.460 --> 01:06:13.860
know, basically you get destroyed by Chaos or

01:06:13.860 --> 01:06:15.800
Xenos. Like, the whole point, like, it's the

01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.289
Imperium's cruelty is, like, in quotes justified

01:06:19.289 --> 01:06:23.070
in their weird sense the emperor going we'll

01:06:23.070 --> 01:06:29.250
have human rights eventually the whole the whole

01:06:29.250 --> 01:06:33.389
point though that version of the like that version

01:06:33.389 --> 01:06:43.539
of the future where there's a like a like it's

01:06:43.539 --> 01:06:46.380
meant to be in quotes the cruelest and most bloody

01:06:46.380 --> 01:06:48.300
regime imaginable like the whole point like it's

01:06:48.300 --> 01:06:51.300
a nightmare like that something would have to

01:06:51.300 --> 01:06:54.960
do that and i i think maybe some people would

01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:57.800
lose the irony of it and i think a big part of

01:06:57.800 --> 01:06:59.840
warhammer is because again like the the main

01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:03.420
three chaos gods were all also born out of humanity's

01:07:03.420 --> 01:07:13.610
psyche and the idea that humanity a big boost.

01:07:13.730 --> 01:07:15.949
Like it's on steroids now because of humanity.

01:07:16.170 --> 01:07:20.610
Yeah. All right. Okay. I'll put it that way,

01:07:20.670 --> 01:07:23.889
but it's like the idea of humanity, like maybe

01:07:23.889 --> 01:07:26.570
we'll have servitors and maybe we'll like do

01:07:26.570 --> 01:07:28.690
these violations of human rights. I guess like

01:07:28.690 --> 01:07:32.230
Horace has to say, Oh no, no, no. That gradual

01:07:32.230 --> 01:07:38.010
then plummet. And then. Oh, what's that be like?

01:07:38.170 --> 01:07:41.329
The, the, the Imperium also like flip -flops

01:07:41.329 --> 01:07:44.650
between, being the worst place imaginable and

01:07:44.650 --> 01:07:46.590
ninety percent of it is actually like it's pretty

01:07:46.590 --> 01:07:50.230
fine oh yeah and we see the ten percent and the

01:07:50.230 --> 01:07:52.369
ten percent are what the like where all the bad

01:07:52.369 --> 01:07:57.250
stuff happens like it's so vast there are some

01:07:57.250 --> 01:07:59.269
worlds which would never even know that space

01:07:59.269 --> 01:08:02.510
marines are a thing that don't know chaos exists

01:08:02.510 --> 01:08:04.869
and the imperium doesn't tell people out of chaos

01:08:04.869 --> 01:08:09.050
chaos unless it's go time even like the the recent

01:08:09.539 --> 01:08:11.539
foray i did into the night books it was like

01:08:11.539 --> 01:08:14.579
these places are quite nice to live and then

01:08:14.579 --> 01:08:17.199
word bearers turned up and say oh no and they

01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:19.119
have to break it to the night houses like the

01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.699
king is like by the way space marines can turn

01:08:21.699 --> 01:08:25.020
evil and they're like what yes there's there's

01:08:25.020 --> 01:08:28.520
levels of oppression that are necessary and then

01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:30.420
there's like forge worlds and hive cities and

01:08:30.420 --> 01:08:32.399
stuff that suck but like there's there is a baseline

01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.060
where it's like you have to worship the emperor

01:08:34.729 --> 01:08:37.090
you cannot worship or listen to anything else

01:08:37.090 --> 01:08:39.189
because this entire world could fall to chaos

01:08:39.189 --> 01:08:41.829
like that's 100 justified and necessary even

01:08:41.829 --> 01:08:44.390
like every single rule book since whatever edition

01:08:44.390 --> 01:08:47.770
has said the imperium has to do this uh yeah

01:08:47.770 --> 01:08:51.449
but i think okay so you get cold i don't know

01:08:51.449 --> 01:08:54.069
my thing is it's the dictatorship says you must

01:08:54.069 --> 01:08:56.170
do what the dictatorship says otherwise yeah

01:08:56.170 --> 01:09:00.430
every part of the imperium is on the same level

01:09:00.430 --> 01:09:03.619
of like awful dictator authoritarian evil place.

01:09:03.739 --> 01:09:06.000
It's usually the parts the Imperium forgets about

01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.939
that are allowed to be alright. Even the alright

01:09:08.939 --> 01:09:11.119
places still have to follow some rules or they

01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:15.140
could be compromised horrifically. The one thing

01:09:15.140 --> 01:09:17.539
I would say is as bad as the Imperium can get,

01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:20.840
just play that one... animation from hammer and

01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.319
bolter where like that death guard guy turns

01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:26.180
another death guard into a mega gribly and it's

01:09:26.180 --> 01:09:28.159
like this is terrible but like the alternative

01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:32.659
is worse how many orifices does he need or why

01:09:32.659 --> 01:09:34.640
are they biting you present me with a forked

01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:37.079
road i will simply not walk on either of the

01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:41.840
roads i'll make my own we weirdly get in the

01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.600
i just mostly from like my perspective is like

01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:49.199
we shouldn't there's a thing of like you know,

01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.260
oh, we're so horrible and evil and terrible.

01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:56.060
We're not as evil as literal hell itself. Whereas,

01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:58.239
like, I think at the heart of it, there should

01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.619
be a thing to suggest that wasn't the only choice.

01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.840
It was just the emperor's fault. And therefore,

01:10:05.020 --> 01:10:09.199
there's a path which is like, you know, oh, it

01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.020
didn't have to happen. You know, the universe

01:10:12.020 --> 01:10:15.189
just sucks. It didn't have to happen, but it

01:10:15.189 --> 01:10:16.930
happened and now it's the only choice because

01:10:16.930 --> 01:10:21.289
of what happened. Yeah. Which I think is legitimately

01:10:21.289 --> 01:10:22.970
just the lore. They just don't say that very

01:10:22.970 --> 01:10:25.130
often. But if they say it's the only choice,

01:10:25.430 --> 01:10:28.930
then it would really be like, hey guys, thank

01:10:28.930 --> 01:10:33.409
God our universe is 100 % dictator guaranteed.

01:10:34.409 --> 01:10:38.159
That's why I think... um going back to a comment

01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:40.119
we had earlier it'd be fun to see like a splinter

01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:42.819
of the imperium or humanity that are like let's

01:10:42.819 --> 01:10:45.579
try and be good people and see how far they get

01:10:45.579 --> 01:10:48.119
in the circumstance and maybe have a bit where

01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:49.840
like at the end of it it's like we had all the

01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:53.180
best intentions but we had all these chaos uprisings

01:10:53.180 --> 01:10:55.720
and then we had deals with xenos and they betrayed

01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:57.960
us and you could be like let's give them like

01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:01.329
a steel clad every opportunity to be good people

01:11:01.329 --> 01:11:04.590
but the setting is just so toxic that it didn't

01:11:04.590 --> 01:11:07.210
matter because at the end of the day even with

01:11:07.210 --> 01:11:09.409
the best intentions it was still a shit show

01:11:09.409 --> 01:11:10.909
like i think that would be a really interesting

01:11:10.909 --> 01:11:15.529
story where you could like steel man every possible

01:11:15.529 --> 01:11:17.609
thing and then it's just like and then it ends

01:11:17.609 --> 01:11:20.689
with exterminatus like oh no and and and for

01:11:20.689 --> 01:11:22.989
a while tau were kind of doing that with we're

01:11:22.989 --> 01:11:24.590
just going to be goodies and then that's kind

01:11:24.590 --> 01:11:27.560
of changed now yeah the Tau are nice because

01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:29.800
they're resistant to chaos. So they can actually

01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.680
exist without having like chaos doesn't exist.

01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:34.579
I mean, even though Phil Kelly wrote that the

01:11:34.579 --> 01:11:36.359
ethereals lied about chaos and it was just the

01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:38.960
horse heresy all over again, but they can still

01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:40.899
exist and like work together with other things

01:11:40.899 --> 01:11:43.220
because they have, they are there a new ish society

01:11:43.220 --> 01:11:46.060
that hasn't been completely destroyed by their

01:11:46.060 --> 01:11:49.579
own horse heresy. To sum up that massive segment

01:11:49.579 --> 01:11:54.020
we talked about. Thanks, Phil Kelly. Yeah. Thank

01:11:54.020 --> 01:12:00.960
you, Phil. Thank you, Philip. Very cool. Do we

01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:04.819
just do this one? No, I think it's on the same

01:12:04.819 --> 01:12:09.880
lines, is it? Because this is a wrap. Yeah, because

01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:15.199
I think that one was there. I'm going to choose

01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.359
my maid outfit now while you guys are doing that.

01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:24.960
Okay. Next one. From 2009 mortgage rates type

01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:28.880
beat. Balthazar Gelt should kill all living Primarchs

01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:32.060
with a brick. Wow. Yeah, that's beast. That's

01:12:32.060 --> 01:12:34.399
awesome. Huge, huge, huge. This is what I picked.

01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:38.760
Hell yeah. Funny. Why with a brick? He's a man

01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:42.020
of gold. Is he deserving? No, he transmutes a

01:12:42.020 --> 01:12:45.720
lead bar or a gold bar into a lead brick and

01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.119
then just puts it in a sock and beats him over

01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:50.979
the head with it. Better than any horse heresy

01:12:50.979 --> 01:12:54.340
book. Why are you making me do this? Exactly.

01:12:54.659 --> 01:12:58.699
You see the vision. Why are you doing this? I

01:12:58.699 --> 01:13:01.619
am supreme. That's all he has to say. It's very

01:13:01.619 --> 01:13:06.300
simple. Kill with brick. That is a funny one,

01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:11.600
though. Get bricked, idiot. Brick top. Brick

01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:16.659
top with bricky. And then kill bricky. Jesus.

01:13:20.190 --> 01:13:23.590
Here's one. Who wants to read this one? Have

01:13:23.590 --> 01:13:27.210
the orcs win Armageddon back and put a grot in

01:13:27.210 --> 01:13:29.949
charge. Two thumbs up. Two thumbs up from me.

01:13:30.529 --> 01:13:33.710
Red Gobageddon. There you go. It's right there.

01:13:34.369 --> 01:13:39.670
We need to cover the bloody Uftak Black. Is it

01:13:39.670 --> 01:13:43.710
Black Hawk? The second Drukari book, which has

01:13:43.710 --> 01:13:47.329
the Gretchen communist uprising. Oh, yeah. That

01:13:47.329 --> 01:13:50.489
is a great book. Have you guys read any of the

01:13:50.489 --> 01:13:54.229
Red Gobbo stuff? Like the actual book? Because

01:13:54.229 --> 01:13:56.869
they're all short books. There's no book book.

01:13:57.090 --> 01:13:59.010
But they're all really good fun. I've got to

01:13:59.010 --> 01:14:00.989
be honest. Denny Flowers ones are pretty good.

01:14:01.529 --> 01:14:06.029
And it's usually never the same Red Gobbo. It's

01:14:06.029 --> 01:14:10.649
more an ideal. Like I remember that you wouldn't

01:14:10.649 --> 01:14:15.170
expect it in a Red Gobbo book, but they reintroduced

01:14:15.170 --> 01:14:19.649
the idea that the Orcs and the Gretchen are descended

01:14:19.649 --> 01:14:21.649
from the Crocs and that the Gretchen used to

01:14:21.649 --> 01:14:24.409
be the officer class. And then they slowly devolved

01:14:24.409 --> 01:14:25.729
and then they weren't listened to anymore and

01:14:25.729 --> 01:14:27.869
they got smacked in the mouth. And now the Orcs

01:14:27.869 --> 01:14:30.409
that exist today are like the frontline grunts

01:14:30.409 --> 01:14:33.510
who've now just brutalized their way to the top.

01:14:33.899 --> 01:14:35.619
And now the Gretchen is like, I used to be in

01:14:35.619 --> 01:14:37.319
charge. And they have like a vision and one of

01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.060
the Gobbos sees all the previous Gobbos and sees

01:14:40.060 --> 01:14:42.739
how the Necrons were involved in the war in heaven.

01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:45.300
And it's like, oh, that's really, really interesting

01:14:45.300 --> 01:14:47.340
lore. And is it a freaking Gobbo book? I'm like,

01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:49.640
amazing. You never know where it's going to turn

01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.159
out. I love the Orc books. They're just so, like,

01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:55.800
because they're not trying to be the best one

01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.659
book ever, but they're always so enjoyable. Shout

01:14:59.659 --> 01:15:03.920
out to Princess the Squig. And why is princess

01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.199
called princess? How? Because it's a pit bull.

01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:13.359
It's a squig. Because they're on a titan. Oh,

01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:16.939
a princess. And they misread it and they go,

01:15:17.020 --> 01:15:20.260
princess. And it's a princess. Yeah, that's a

01:15:20.260 --> 01:15:21.659
fun little detail. They knew what they were doing.

01:15:22.180 --> 01:15:29.260
It is princess the pit bull as a personal squig.

01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:34.319
Oh god, that is a princess. We do the UFTAG episode

01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:36.739
at least because that's actually so fun, those

01:15:36.739 --> 01:15:41.140
ones. Yeah. Bro got infected with a virus and

01:15:41.140 --> 01:15:44.520
became hench and they went, I am now smart. Wow.

01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:51.180
What a guy. Do you want to try this one, Eli?

01:15:51.420 --> 01:15:56.579
Sure. Genesis. Wow. Titus needs to die soon.

01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.960
Get him out of there. I'm also okay with that.

01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:00.819
It's funny when Ultramarine characters are OP

01:16:00.819 --> 01:16:02.659
and it's also funny when they die off screen.

01:16:03.220 --> 01:16:06.140
There's no losing. You can always be happy no

01:16:06.140 --> 01:16:08.560
matter what an Ultramarine does. I do hope Space

01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:11.060
Marine 3 just loads up. It's not Titus anymore.

01:16:11.699 --> 01:16:14.260
That'd be really funny. You play the tutorial,

01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:18.279
but instead of 2 where you fight the big boy,

01:16:18.340 --> 01:16:21.640
what's his name? The big Tyranid. No, that was

01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:26.510
a... Was it a Carnifex? The Karnifex, yeah. But

01:16:26.510 --> 01:16:29.590
instead, you fight the Karnifex and then he falls

01:16:29.590 --> 01:16:31.550
down and he's like, no, he didn't go through

01:16:31.550 --> 01:16:33.930
the Rubicon this time. He's dead. Okay, now play

01:16:33.930 --> 01:16:36.210
another Spaceman. Oh, who are you playing as

01:16:36.210 --> 01:16:39.550
now? Gadda's. Get Gadda's in the helm of it.

01:16:40.959 --> 01:16:47.779
You didn't parry. Just play as a servitor. My

01:16:47.779 --> 01:16:51.020
little servitor. Space Marine game, but you're

01:16:51.020 --> 01:16:55.000
actually the servitor attached to the tank. Could

01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:59.920
you imagine a girly pops game where it's like,

01:16:59.960 --> 01:17:02.460
you know, like those crappy Barbie flash games

01:17:02.460 --> 01:17:04.699
you see and they're like, accessorize Barbie,

01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.399
but it's a servitor. And it's just like all the

01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:11.100
different like strand of someone's hair and like

01:17:11.100 --> 01:17:15.420
different eyeballs and like bravings and stuff.

01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:17.180
If there was ever a game where you got to be

01:17:17.180 --> 01:17:19.340
a tech guy and you had your own servitor retinue

01:17:19.340 --> 01:17:21.779
and you could dress them up like Barbie dolls

01:17:21.779 --> 01:17:24.899
or something, that would be awesome. It's not

01:17:24.899 --> 01:17:26.760
quite the same. They kind of did a little bit

01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:29.020
of that with Mechanicus where how you upgraded

01:17:29.020 --> 01:17:30.840
your tech priest changed how he looked, which

01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:32.399
I think was kind of cool. Like the upgrade you

01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:34.640
got changed his form with different legs and

01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:39.100
arms and stuff. But yeah. Because Space Marine

01:17:39.100 --> 01:17:42.619
2 was quite customised for like, honestly, I

01:17:42.619 --> 01:17:45.800
booted it up a few times just to like customise

01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:49.840
the character so I could like, if I wanted to

01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:51.439
paint something, I was like seeing how it looks

01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:54.260
before I even painted. It's actually quite cool.

01:17:54.739 --> 01:17:58.260
This is the value. This is the only real value

01:17:58.260 --> 01:18:03.539
that Space Marine 2 has. As a veteran of fashion,

01:18:03.619 --> 01:18:06.479
you take that back, Eli. Fashion is everything.

01:18:08.100 --> 01:18:12.920
I know Cole likes it the most because there's

01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:14.760
drip. That's the only reason that guy plays the

01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.979
game. drip can make you play a game a lot longer

01:18:17.979 --> 01:18:20.960
than you ever wanted to to be honest players

01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:25.420
are still in the trenches hold on doesn't dota

01:18:25.420 --> 01:18:27.979
2 have skins that are like over a grand i was

01:18:27.979 --> 01:18:32.000
like oh it's 10 cents it's five what the and

01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.859
then i looked at that and i i instantly had whiplash

01:18:34.859 --> 01:18:37.880
i'm like oh god no yeah you can you could have

01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:41.479
a hundred thousand dollar dota uh inventory probably

01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:43.579
it's no it's nowhere near the levels of crazy

01:18:43.579 --> 01:18:47.939
that csgo is though Or is it Dead or Alive Beach

01:18:47.939 --> 01:18:50.760
Volleyball 2 has something like 10 grand's worth

01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.800
of cosmetics you can buy on the marketplace or

01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:59.079
something crazy? I'm sure any Paradox Games DLC

01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:02.340
is running for that trophy as well. The DLC subscription,

01:19:02.819 --> 01:19:06.699
the Paradox subscription. Or is it Genshin Impact?

01:19:06.859 --> 01:19:08.300
That's the one where it's like an animation.

01:19:08.300 --> 01:19:10.100
Well, there's a lot of things wrong with that

01:19:10.100 --> 01:19:13.039
game. It's just the games in general, right?

01:19:15.599 --> 01:19:18.380
I wouldn't know. I'm attracted to legal age women.

01:19:20.619 --> 01:19:23.199
We all know that's a bit of a taboo in anime.

01:19:24.460 --> 01:19:29.060
Wow, the eyebrows were certainly lifted there.

01:19:30.659 --> 01:19:38.140
Next one. Legiacus? Yes. Hal, are you beating

01:19:38.140 --> 01:19:42.649
off? What was that noise? Sorry. Yeah, baby!

01:19:43.470 --> 01:19:47.270
That's what I'm talking about! I don't know if

01:19:47.270 --> 01:19:49.229
it's been said, but full stop, remove all the

01:19:49.229 --> 01:19:55.289
Primark. Here's my heinous take, right? Let me

01:19:55.289 --> 01:19:58.409
preface this, right? We're getting on a bit,

01:19:58.470 --> 01:20:00.649
right? I know this the most because I'm the oldest.

01:20:00.989 --> 01:20:05.369
I'm basically 40, 50 in two years, right? So,

01:20:05.489 --> 01:20:08.920
at the rate they're going... I'll be dead before

01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:12.100
any of the other Primarchs come back. Are you

01:20:12.100 --> 01:20:15.779
aging like a clone trooper? What? Think about

01:20:15.779 --> 01:20:18.020
it. Think it right. So we had Gilman back in

01:20:18.020 --> 01:20:24.460
8th edition? 2017. So in the span of almost a

01:20:24.460 --> 01:20:26.420
decade, we've had two Primarchs back from the

01:20:26.420 --> 01:20:30.699
loyalists. So... I'm a demon Primarch, to be

01:20:30.699 --> 01:20:33.210
fair. yeah but like but like let's just concentrate

01:20:33.210 --> 01:20:37.970
on loyalists vulcan lehman russ corvus corex

01:20:37.970 --> 01:20:46.310
jagatai khan uh vulcan i said vulcan already

01:20:46.310 --> 01:20:49.250
i think you're right that's everybody but if

01:20:49.250 --> 01:20:52.229
there's one every like four years that's for

01:20:52.229 --> 01:20:56.000
a 12, 16 years. I'll be 50 by the time they're

01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.560
out. I'm going to be too old to play Warhammer

01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:01.260
anymore. I'll be like, I've got to get my tombstone

01:21:01.260 --> 01:21:05.420
sorted out. I've got to pay for my funeral preparations.

01:21:05.779 --> 01:21:09.039
The average Warhammer player is like 40. But

01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:10.760
then they won't be here either. They'll be like,

01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:15.659
no, we're gone too. True. I understand that there's

01:21:15.659 --> 01:21:17.439
an element of we don't want to have another end

01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.420
times. But at the same time, when do we say that

01:21:20.420 --> 01:21:23.270
the setting ends? Because if you think about

01:21:23.270 --> 01:21:24.670
the shareholders and people who run it, it's

01:21:24.670 --> 01:21:26.909
like they've had a good run of like 40 years

01:21:26.909 --> 01:21:29.649
of this setting. And for the first 10 plus years,

01:21:29.850 --> 01:21:33.630
it wasn't that fast. It was very like, oh, we

01:21:33.630 --> 01:21:35.770
bait the miniatures and we need to like have

01:21:35.770 --> 01:21:37.729
a little set dressing for it. Then they started

01:21:37.729 --> 01:21:39.890
making the novels about 20 odd plus years ago.

01:21:40.430 --> 01:21:43.829
And now there's 400 of them. And it's like, oh,

01:21:43.989 --> 01:21:46.109
how long is this going to go before we get into

01:21:46.109 --> 01:21:49.310
like soap opera, Emmerdale? I guess maybe we're

01:21:49.310 --> 01:21:51.210
already in Emmerdale, Coronation Street levels

01:21:51.210 --> 01:21:55.590
right now. soap opera but like when when it's

01:21:55.590 --> 01:21:57.590
too late and when it's too soon for a primark

01:21:57.590 --> 01:22:02.210
to return when they've run out of scouring novels

01:22:02.210 --> 01:22:07.390
like they once the two years time what like at

01:22:07.390 --> 01:22:09.449
this rate bro i think it's gonna be a scouring

01:22:09.449 --> 01:22:13.890
novel every year but um yeah most other things

01:22:13.890 --> 01:22:15.770
that's pretty good going there's only like you

01:22:15.770 --> 01:22:21.329
know three Lord of the Rings books. And one Hobbit

01:22:21.329 --> 01:22:23.890
prequel one. So, you know, not a prequel came

01:22:23.890 --> 01:22:28.390
out first, but yeah, I think we'll be okay, to

01:22:28.390 --> 01:22:32.670
be honest. It's a galaxy. It's a universe. It's

01:22:32.670 --> 01:22:36.270
got time. What's the gameplay here? Sorry, there's

01:22:36.270 --> 01:22:39.510
a whole Ogryn that's exploded into meat chunks.

01:22:40.989 --> 01:22:43.050
But here's the thing. We've already mentioned

01:22:43.050 --> 01:22:45.630
Space Marine fatigue a little bit. When does

01:22:45.630 --> 01:22:51.390
Warhammer fatigue kick in? If we've got 20 more

01:22:51.390 --> 01:22:54.470
years before all the Primarchs come back, how

01:22:54.470 --> 01:22:58.229
many Space Marine novels can we stomach until

01:22:58.229 --> 01:23:01.770
it's like, oh, Corvus is here. i that's that's

01:23:01.770 --> 01:23:04.550
different because we're our perspective is completely

01:23:04.550 --> 01:23:07.909
twisted on it because we yeah they know people

01:23:07.909 --> 01:23:11.649
get into it and stuff and also we we like consume

01:23:11.649 --> 01:23:14.590
we work on it every single day most people don't

01:23:14.590 --> 01:23:17.229
like think about warhammer every single day we

01:23:17.229 --> 01:23:20.930
have a problem gw has shown multiple times so

01:23:20.930 --> 01:23:24.090
they don't really care about loyal or old fans

01:23:24.090 --> 01:23:26.729
and they just do whatever attracts new people

01:23:26.729 --> 01:23:30.960
whoever has the money That is the question of

01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:32.960
which direction it goes. It's the way of the

01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:35.119
corporation, unfortunately. Follow the money.

01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:39.079
Yeah. So what you're saying is we should have

01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:44.760
a primarchy year and then we'll be good. Colin

01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:49.720
did the angry teacher. Everybody hated that.

01:23:52.260 --> 01:23:56.460
Kill him. Yeah, get in the shower. Take a shower

01:23:56.460 --> 01:24:02.300
there. Wipe that stink off you. I think, to be

01:24:02.300 --> 01:24:05.899
fair, if it's every other edition, pace it out.

01:24:06.020 --> 01:24:08.779
You've got time. Every edition's four years,

01:24:08.819 --> 01:24:13.159
man. Every other edition. Eight years of time

01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:16.640
work. Yeah. So that'd be another guillotine.

01:24:19.480 --> 01:24:21.460
Well, that's kind of my point. It's like the

01:24:21.460 --> 01:24:23.159
shareholders want to make the bucks. I'm sorry,

01:24:23.260 --> 01:24:24.939
am I asking the shareholders? You're asking me.

01:24:25.460 --> 01:24:27.420
No, no, no. I'm just saying realistically, if

01:24:27.420 --> 01:24:29.039
the shareholders are like, could you just like,

01:24:29.140 --> 01:24:31.600
this is your most popular thing in the setting,

01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:33.899
which is Primark's, and they go, yeah. It's like,

01:24:33.979 --> 01:24:37.800
I'm 58. Could we maybe like make all of them

01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:41.720
before I'm 100? Could we squeeze it dry before

01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:46.260
I move to Florida, guys? And every time a Primark

01:24:46.260 --> 01:24:49.029
comes out, us lore youtubers we have a collective

01:24:49.029 --> 01:24:51.949
orgasm because it's like oh we could do a video

01:24:51.949 --> 01:24:55.609
on that amazing and so like it's uh it's a case

01:24:55.609 --> 01:24:59.029
of realistically like if it is every other edition

01:24:59.029 --> 01:25:02.609
we get a primark then it'll be what like 16th

01:25:02.609 --> 01:25:05.529
18th edition when we get all the loyalists back

01:25:05.529 --> 01:25:08.689
and then there's still some chaos primarks we

01:25:08.689 --> 01:25:11.590
haven't seen like lorgar we haven't seen perdurabo

01:25:11.590 --> 01:25:15.449
in a while uh we've seen morty because he's kind

01:25:15.449 --> 01:25:18.340
of a dish There's a few Chaos ones we haven't

01:25:18.340 --> 01:25:20.899
seen in a while. And now Abaddon's been like,

01:25:21.020 --> 01:25:24.260
oh, what follows from the Black Crusades? Arcs

01:25:24.260 --> 01:25:27.140
of Omen, I guess? And everyone's like, okay.

01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.119
It's like, what's the next big thing? Because

01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:34.159
now Cadia's gone. What's the next big thing?

01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:36.899
Where's Terra? Have you got your slop vision

01:25:36.899 --> 01:25:41.199
goggles on, finally? As in, we know the gig.

01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:46.579
We know the game. i'm just saying whatever is

01:25:46.579 --> 01:25:48.560
interesting like they produce a lot of stuff

01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:50.840
we just pick out the interesting things yeah

01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:54.239
yeah but i'm just like it's now yeah i don't

01:25:54.239 --> 01:25:57.500
know it's just the thing of like post 999 m41

01:25:57.500 --> 01:26:00.000
we're now in this new millennium and i'm like

01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:02.899
god of blight was fun but now i'm also like now

01:26:02.899 --> 01:26:06.220
what's like the next infinity war equivalent

01:26:06.220 --> 01:26:09.579
where like cadia was that for warhammer and then

01:26:09.579 --> 01:26:11.300
there was other things like devastation of baal

01:26:11.300 --> 01:26:14.970
and stuff but now there's like We've had Rin's

01:26:14.970 --> 01:26:16.569
World, we've had Hell's Reach, we've had all

01:26:16.569 --> 01:26:19.270
these classic things that have gestated over

01:26:19.270 --> 01:26:21.270
a decade plus. Now I'm like, what have we got

01:26:21.270 --> 01:26:28.289
now? Armageddon 5? Yeah, honestly, Armageddon

01:26:28.289 --> 01:26:31.569
has been beaten to death, resurrected and beaten

01:26:31.569 --> 01:26:36.130
again. I might be over Armageddon. Let it die.

01:26:36.329 --> 01:26:39.359
Blow it up. Blow up Armageddon. It can't be the

01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:43.539
fifth war because it's been like 10 years or

01:26:43.539 --> 01:26:48.779
something at most. Yeah, it's silly. The orcs

01:26:48.779 --> 01:26:52.640
have been trying... This is the orcs' catia.

01:26:52.899 --> 01:26:55.600
Everyone makes fun of Abaddon for failing to

01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:57.979
take catia a couple times. The orcs have been

01:26:57.979 --> 01:27:00.560
fighting for how long and Gazpal hasn't taken...

01:27:00.779 --> 01:27:03.720
Armageddon once? Like, Yorks are kind of a meme.

01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:06.619
The fight is the fun to them. There is no victory.

01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:10.779
The fight is victory. Winning is boring. And

01:27:10.779 --> 01:27:13.920
who do you have to fight? I mean, the next planet.

01:27:14.819 --> 01:27:16.899
Yeah, but this planet keeps giving good fights.

01:27:16.939 --> 01:27:18.340
You don't want to conquer it, then there's no

01:27:18.340 --> 01:27:21.310
more Armageddon fights. Here's a pitch for you,

01:27:21.350 --> 01:27:24.409
right? What if the Drukhari allied with the Harlequins?

01:27:24.510 --> 01:27:25.670
Because they already work quite well with them.

01:27:25.770 --> 01:27:27.689
Because the Harlequins are just like, we need

01:27:27.689 --> 01:27:30.609
to make the Eldar race strong no matter what.

01:27:30.750 --> 01:27:32.729
We're kind of on everyone's side in the Eldar,

01:27:32.750 --> 01:27:35.130
but no one's side at the same time. Make Komarok

01:27:35.130 --> 01:27:38.710
great again? No, my idea would be, what if the

01:27:38.710 --> 01:27:42.989
Drukhari make a webway backdoor to attack Terra?

01:27:43.430 --> 01:27:45.670
And they basically go, we're going to attack

01:27:45.670 --> 01:27:48.960
the Throne World from the webway. And we're going

01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:50.720
to do a mass assault so that we can dethrone

01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:54.399
the emperor. And therefore, like, we've got them

01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:55.779
by the balls because we're the ones who have

01:27:55.779 --> 01:27:58.399
to repair it anyway. But also, we could put some

01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:01.380
pressure on. And then you could have, like, the

01:28:01.380 --> 01:28:03.779
Drukhari have, like, a fun thing. Because they're

01:28:03.779 --> 01:28:05.420
not doing anything. Everyone in the comments

01:28:05.420 --> 01:28:07.060
is getting grumpy that I think Katia instead

01:28:07.060 --> 01:28:10.039
of Katia, whatever. It's gone. It's gone. It's

01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:15.699
exploded. Who cares? of the German version of

01:28:15.699 --> 01:28:17.779
Space Marine 2, where it's the Commissar on the

01:28:17.779 --> 01:28:22.260
tank and he goes, The rock eyebrow. So you've

01:28:22.260 --> 01:28:30.500
seen that. Do we have one last one? Yeah, might

01:28:30.500 --> 01:28:34.840
be the last big one. This is number 15. This

01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:40.039
is from Irrational Sense again. The next big

01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:41.899
Space Marine -focused character will be the Imperial

01:28:41.899 --> 01:28:44.619
Fist Chapter Master. Edit. No, Dawn isn't returning

01:28:44.619 --> 01:28:46.520
to fight Purty. We're finally going to write

01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:48.659
something about this guy, possibly poorly. Here's

01:28:48.659 --> 01:28:52.439
the problem with that. Can anyone name the Imperial

01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:55.779
Fist Chapter Master? I thought it was Lysander

01:28:55.779 --> 01:28:59.880
for the longest freaking time. Admiral Thrawn.

01:29:00.539 --> 01:29:05.460
Gavin. G and N or something. His name is Gregor

01:29:05.460 --> 01:29:09.420
Dessian. And he replaced the previous guy who

01:29:09.420 --> 01:29:12.279
died in -universe 10 years ago. Who replaced

01:29:12.279 --> 01:29:16.340
the previous guy who in -universe died 10 -ish

01:29:16.340 --> 01:29:19.600
years ago. He hasn't even got art. They should

01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:22.720
make Lysander the chapter master. Because he

01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:24.579
has an interesting thing. He was lost in the

01:29:24.579 --> 01:29:27.520
warp for a thousand years. Came out. No problem.

01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:31.560
Get him back into the first company. He had a

01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:33.659
few books. I've read them. They're alright. They're

01:29:33.659 --> 01:29:35.699
pretty good. Put him in chapter master. Why not?

01:29:35.739 --> 01:29:38.960
He's got a mini. he's already missed a fist make

01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:43.760
it mr fist proper go on top ten things are never

01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:49.060
gonna happen like the imperial fists are the

01:29:49.060 --> 01:29:52.989
neglected child of the space marines not that

01:29:52.989 --> 01:29:56.250
i'm saying that compared to xenos they are they

01:29:56.250 --> 01:29:58.470
are the child who's received a bouquet every

01:29:58.470 --> 01:30:00.710
year on their birthday whereas xenos don't receive

01:30:00.710 --> 01:30:03.310
anything it's that meme of the child in the swimming

01:30:03.310 --> 01:30:05.369
pool with the mother and then like in the water

01:30:05.369 --> 01:30:07.909
struggling to swim is like the imperial guard

01:30:07.909 --> 01:30:10.430
and then under the water is the elder as a skeleton

01:30:10.430 --> 01:30:15.090
or and it's like elder slash slash slash slash

01:30:15.090 --> 01:30:20.119
um damn i don't know like I don't think Colin's

01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:22.899
bothered about Imperial Vests. I don't think

01:30:22.899 --> 01:30:28.399
many people are, unfortunately. I think they're

01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:31.100
cool, but I'm also not in a rush to read about

01:30:31.100 --> 01:30:38.079
them. Is anybody? The heresy stuff is cool. I

01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:40.739
did like that. All their cool heresy guys went

01:30:40.739 --> 01:30:44.800
to the other chapters, though. Yeah. Dawn is

01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:48.409
cool, though. Dawn is surprisingly quite... interesting

01:30:48.409 --> 01:30:53.750
Primark. Rogal door is dead. Get over it. Shut

01:30:53.750 --> 01:30:57.550
the door on Dawn. Hashtag shut the door. Shut

01:30:57.550 --> 01:31:02.189
the fridge. Is there any last donors we have?

01:31:02.350 --> 01:31:05.170
There are some donations. So we had one from

01:31:05.170 --> 01:31:07.890
Kaband as Mighty Shlong. I would make Bellacor

01:31:07.890 --> 01:31:11.550
the warmest war mester of chaos. I tired of chaos

01:31:11.550 --> 01:31:15.229
overlords who don't fully embrace chaos. Respectable.

01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:20.420
Chaos Remembrance. I would like one big Chaos

01:31:20.420 --> 01:31:27.520
guy to just commit and also not be one of the

01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:32.699
gods. Yeah. That could be quite cool. Although

01:31:32.699 --> 01:31:36.340
it better cause a bit of a bitch sometimes. 40k

01:31:36.340 --> 01:31:40.699
years. The Young Graves. My most heinous retcon

01:31:40.699 --> 01:31:43.279
would be that Terra is not actually Earth and

01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:46.039
that... The first planet in Horus Rising is actually

01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:49.680
the real Earth. It'd be so funny. Oh, that would

01:31:49.680 --> 01:31:51.739
be hilarious. That would be awesome. And then

01:31:51.739 --> 01:31:55.220
Terra was Unicron the whole time. And then Spider

01:31:55.220 --> 01:31:58.779
-Man appears because of the multiverse. Hey everybody,

01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:02.199
what's going on here? Mutant! Kill the mutant!

01:32:02.539 --> 01:32:04.779
And then it goes crazy. No, he's not a mutant.

01:32:04.859 --> 01:32:10.720
We have those in Marvel too. Joe Pippin for five

01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:13.039
bucks. Thank you, man. I would make Night Lords

01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:16.899
a united renegade slash traitor force. No chaos,

01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:20.880
less skinning, and they learn other tactics besides

01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:25.920
fear and Savitar returns. Respectable. Can I

01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:29.619
vent for a second? The amount of times I get

01:32:29.619 --> 01:32:32.319
a comment on one of my Night Lords videos like,

01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:34.560
do a video on Decimus. Do a video on Decimus.

01:32:34.579 --> 01:32:38.869
Throw us one chapter to his name. What am I going

01:32:38.869 --> 01:32:41.170
to do about this character who's at the end of

01:32:41.170 --> 01:32:43.869
the Night Lords omnibus? Who doesn't do anything

01:32:43.869 --> 01:32:46.029
about, say, I'm going to have a novel one day

01:32:46.029 --> 01:32:48.529
and then never gets a novel. What do you want

01:32:48.529 --> 01:32:55.210
from me? Yeah. Sorry. Donkey Man, you were saying.

01:32:55.329 --> 01:32:58.229
With the steel chair at the end. He's here. Thank

01:32:58.229 --> 01:33:01.229
you, man. Got drunk and passed out. Just woke

01:33:01.229 --> 01:33:04.470
up anyways. Stream late due to Hal going to Lovecraft's

01:33:04.470 --> 01:33:07.630
cat. Thanks, man. I was on acceptable losses

01:33:07.630 --> 01:33:11.329
earlier today. Yes, you were. Talking about something

01:33:11.329 --> 01:33:16.010
with a lot of tendrils again. Hal loves his...

01:33:16.010 --> 01:33:18.630
What's it called in hentai? I can't remember

01:33:18.630 --> 01:33:28.460
what it's called. That thing. What was that cat's

01:33:28.460 --> 01:33:33.460
name again? We all have Google. Come on. We're

01:33:33.460 --> 01:33:44.260
not falling for it. New Zealand dollars. Thank

01:33:44.260 --> 01:33:46.439
you. Bring back Gorka Morka as a gift, please.

01:33:47.500 --> 01:33:49.739
It's currently in Trayson's collection. Source

01:33:49.739 --> 01:33:52.119
into the divine. It is. Please make it a game,

01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.989
though. The Red Goblin got his start there. He

01:33:54.989 --> 01:33:57.630
did also destroy Fenris and turn the wolves into

01:33:57.630 --> 01:34:02.630
Viking raiders. A big ship. You can make them

01:34:02.630 --> 01:34:04.909
actual Vikings then. They have to go out and

01:34:04.909 --> 01:34:08.649
explore and trade and do stuff and not sit in

01:34:08.649 --> 01:34:11.289
Fenris all the time. We plot armor and we beat

01:34:11.289 --> 01:34:15.789
the Inquisition. They're barely there. Yeah.

01:34:15.789 --> 01:34:20.130
Well, just don't fucking obliterate it. Send

01:34:20.130 --> 01:34:23.710
the Death Star after it. Question. What are our

01:34:23.710 --> 01:34:26.409
thoughts on the upcoming Rogue Trader Trazin

01:34:26.409 --> 01:34:31.810
the Infinite Vault DLC? Looks... I'm keen to

01:34:31.810 --> 01:34:33.750
give it a go, I think. I like when Trazin's here.

01:34:33.989 --> 01:34:37.250
I still haven't played Rogue Trader. I am recording

01:34:37.250 --> 01:34:41.100
up a... I have finished my Trazin. trezin sorry

01:34:41.100 --> 01:34:44.180
script and i'm currently recording my trezin

01:34:44.180 --> 01:34:46.800
video at the moment i've had a lot of this guy

01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:50.539
in my life right for the last few weeks i've

01:34:50.539 --> 01:34:54.340
been in his vaults many times said hal uh the

01:34:54.340 --> 01:34:58.800
treason files are crazy guys oh no all will wear

01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:02.060
green hat in nine weeks in nine weeks what is

01:35:02.060 --> 01:35:05.359
it what day is it first there was man with great

01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:09.949
billy andro billy ando belly and belly and no

01:35:09.949 --> 01:35:14.470
pancreas i'm sorry first there was there thank

01:35:14.470 --> 01:35:16.890
you i don't know what that means great with belly

01:35:16.890 --> 01:35:20.090
and no okay i see i understand yeah yeah yeah

01:35:20.090 --> 01:35:24.670
very nice he's being cheeky thank you man uh

01:35:24.670 --> 01:35:27.189
other than that though thank you guys for all

01:35:27.189 --> 01:35:31.029
the uh comments if you guys wanted to participate

01:35:31.029 --> 01:35:33.829
your listener we are obviously on uh discord

01:35:33.829 --> 01:35:36.189
as well if that's where everyone was sending

01:35:36.189 --> 01:35:38.649
their responses so if you want to make us say

01:35:38.649 --> 01:35:41.130
funny things uh by the way there are things we

01:35:41.130 --> 01:35:44.390
could not say for youtube purposes because i'm

01:35:44.390 --> 01:35:46.609
pretty sure some of the stuff you guys were saying

01:35:46.609 --> 01:35:53.050
after i asked you for help uh um yeah that was

01:35:53.050 --> 01:35:58.260
pretty bad uh if Before we're done, does everyone

01:35:58.260 --> 01:36:02.840
want to say their one heinous lore take? What

01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:07.180
is it? Baldur Punching Asshole. What is his name?

01:36:07.859 --> 01:36:11.680
Chris Redfield, please. Yeah. Well, you've already

01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:13.359
kind of heard my one, which is I think we need

01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:17.039
more Primux more quickly because I'm getting

01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:19.979
on and I want to see it before I die. So that's

01:36:19.979 --> 01:36:24.560
my heinous take. oh sorry it was the one from

01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:27.439
lollipop said maybe depends on the woman but

01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:29.960
yeah fair we need more monstrous women that was

01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:32.619
also a comment of like no context whatsoever

01:36:32.619 --> 01:36:37.439
um i think it's not really a heinous little tape

01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:39.439
but i just i think i said it a few times in different

01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:41.539
streams like i would just kill more of the primarchs

01:36:41.539 --> 01:36:46.560
off and i would happily like i'm talking nuggle

01:36:47.229 --> 01:36:50.289
eats one, whatever. I think a few more of them

01:36:50.289 --> 01:36:52.289
should have died so they become more interesting

01:36:52.289 --> 01:36:54.949
in mythology. One of them messed up real bad

01:36:54.949 --> 01:36:58.930
to have that be their fate. How did you get there?

01:36:59.529 --> 01:37:03.569
I don't mind if the Primarchs come back quickly

01:37:03.569 --> 01:37:06.430
and then die off quickie. It's like, cool. As

01:37:06.430 --> 01:37:10.489
long as Jagatai survives, I'll be fine. Because

01:37:10.489 --> 01:37:13.390
he's cool. One tripped and fell in the shower.

01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:21.260
Colin? Mine is always Games Workshop can so easily

01:37:21.260 --> 01:37:23.640
have their cake and eat it too. Make Storm of

01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:27.239
Chaos the old world timeline so we can have Warhammer

01:37:27.239 --> 01:37:31.840
Fantasy and AOS. It's right there. It would be

01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:33.840
so easy. I guess it's more of a company decision.

01:37:34.659 --> 01:37:41.000
Failing that, it would be bring back Felix. Bring

01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:45.159
back Felix. I don't care. Bring back Felix. Respectable.

01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:48.460
Failing that, just confirm Franz is the Celestian

01:37:48.460 --> 01:37:52.100
Prime. I want to always change my subtitle, by

01:37:52.100 --> 01:37:55.880
the way, whenever I'm doing this stream. Thanks,

01:37:55.960 --> 01:38:01.340
Andy. I know it's you. It must be. Is that everybody

01:38:01.340 --> 01:38:08.880
in? I think... Return to the Tau Empire. Anva's

01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:12.939
dead. The big bad evil guy is dead. Farsight

01:38:12.939 --> 01:38:16.239
should go back and make amends with the Ethereals,

01:38:16.260 --> 01:38:19.520
especially, and Aunchi can facilitate it. I was

01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:21.579
going to say, Eli, would you be opposed to Aunchi

01:38:21.579 --> 01:38:24.939
becoming the main Ethereal? That'd be cool. I

01:38:24.939 --> 01:38:27.180
feel it'd be weird for him, but he is getting

01:38:27.180 --> 01:38:30.720
super old. He's the only one left. Aundo is dead.

01:38:31.100 --> 01:38:34.119
Aunchi is dead. He's the only game in town. Yeah,

01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:38.279
Aunchi's around. He would make a good leader.

01:38:38.420 --> 01:38:41.800
He's more of a... I'm on the front lines goofing

01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:44.880
off type of guy, but he's a wise fellow and he

01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:48.180
would be a good ethereal Supreme. He's like extremely

01:38:48.180 --> 01:38:54.739
old. He could be like, Hey, maybe that like manipulation

01:38:54.739 --> 01:38:57.739
stuff was real, but let's return back to 10 years

01:38:57.739 --> 01:39:01.659
ago because I'm here. Yeah. Well, the, the, the

01:39:01.659 --> 01:39:04.119
most recent farsight book implies that I don't,

01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:07.479
she has been like making changes and stuff or

01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:10.340
at least working on it. but like it's weird in

01:39:10.340 --> 01:39:12.380
the timeline because it happens before anva's

01:39:12.380 --> 01:39:15.819
dead and now anva's dead and there hasn't been

01:39:15.819 --> 01:39:20.100
any actual like change like almost happened what

01:39:20.100 --> 01:39:34.699
a way to end the stream I was hoping that would

01:39:34.699 --> 01:39:37.119
calm her down, but it's done the exact opposite.

01:39:38.020 --> 01:39:41.439
She's like, I'm famous. I'm a star. We have one

01:39:41.439 --> 01:39:45.479
donation left from Joe Pippin. Joe Pippin, I

01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:47.380
have not forgotten you. He's there going, read

01:39:47.380 --> 01:39:51.539
my donation. I see it. Just found out Lovecraft

01:39:51.539 --> 01:39:58.520
cat's name, man. What the fuck? Yeah. This is

01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:02.039
Hal's idol, by the way. no crafts number one

01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:06.039
guy loves them not no the dude is creepy as hell

01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:09.899
just don't google what um eric clapton's fender

01:40:09.899 --> 01:40:13.420
stratocaster was called you'll be fine um yeah

01:40:13.420 --> 01:40:18.380
all right anyway that was your anus takes apparently

01:40:18.380 --> 01:40:21.039
i learned from possum he did not name the cat

01:40:21.970 --> 01:40:25.590
But he kept the cat's name. I'm just kidding,

01:40:25.630 --> 01:40:28.590
Possum. His name is George now. That would have

01:40:28.590 --> 01:40:30.989
been the sane take. I'm just kidding, Possum.

01:40:31.890 --> 01:40:33.850
We'll see you guys all very soon on the next

01:40:33.850 --> 01:40:35.329
ones. Thank you so much for listening, for watching.

01:40:35.630 --> 01:40:37.750
Spotify and all that good stuff. See you guys

01:40:37.750 --> 01:40:39.829
soon. Bye. Thank you very much, everybody. We

01:40:39.829 --> 01:40:41.670
love you a long time. Say bye to Athena, everyone,

01:40:41.789 --> 01:40:43.189
in the chat. Bye.