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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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and welcome back to Law Crimes. Hello, everybody.

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Hello. We've got something strange today, something

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different, something new, something borrowed,

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something new. Hal, what are we talking about

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today? Yes, in our infinite wisdom, we have decided

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that with these four definitely sane... grown

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men here, we should review slash go over some

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Warhammer Reddit threads. We've done a little

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variety for you guys. Epic Keanu Chungus wholesome.

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Some of these are some hobby nightmares. Some

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of these are just good old, I mean, lore opinions.

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We'll see. And we want to know what people, basically

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what Reddit's cooking. We may do this again if

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people enjoy this episode. To be honest, I don't

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even want to necessarily waste any time. Maybe

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we could open it up with, I believe this is,

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most of this is from r slash Warhammer, r slash

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40k lore, or all your usual suspects, though.

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And we tried our best to find some threads that

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hopefully people will find interesting. So, I

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mean, we can go for the first one if that's there,

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Andy. I do believe this one was specifically

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about hobby nightmares, guys. And obviously,

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if you're listening along. Please let us know

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any of your particular hobby nightmares. I'm

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trying not to piss myself the whole way through

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this one because it honestly made me laugh hilariously.

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Hal is the kind of guy to laugh at his own jokes

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and now he's going to laugh at his own submissions.

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But this is funny though. So for the audio listeners,

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it says it starts with someone that used to work

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at GW as a store assistant. And there was a story

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that went around about an incident that occurred.

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Two younger customers, brackets about 12. playing

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a game with their new models they had gotten

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over Christmas. Just as they were putting their

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last models on the table, the ceiling collapsed.

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The ceiling collapsed and a partial decayed body

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fell onto the boredom model. No way. Nah, nah,

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nah. No way. supposedly a homeless man who went

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into the air system earlier on in the winter

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to escape the cold and died. He had been there

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a few weeks and the store thought the smell was

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just the customers and the door being closed

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a few days over the winter holidays. I know Warhammer

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people get a bad rap for going into a store and

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not wearing deodorant, but that's the way they're

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to say. Rotting corpse seems a little extreme.

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Can we get a note that Hal's first one and funniest

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laugh is over a homeless man dying? A homeless

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man's corpse fell onto the table while these

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two 12 -year -olds were playing. God forbid someone

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be dedicated to their vampire council army. followed

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by the first comment underneath which was only

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in 40k can the smell of a dead body be thought

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of just the customers and then followed by another

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comment which was uh my flgs has a bathing rule

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if they can smell you you've got to go home and

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aren't allowed back until you honestly pretty

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pretty huge we have a rule at my lgs2 i uh my

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old gw store it didn't have like a a hard set

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rule but my managers told me on multiple occasions

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he's kicked people out for that exact reason

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he's like dude you are driving out customers

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i can smell you from across the store it's time

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to go yeah well again i i know a comedian and

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she was like oh you're doing warhammer that's

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cool like oh i've only ever been to a warhammer

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shop once the only thing i remember was there

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was a guy in there and he smelled really bad

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like yeah Tends to be a habit. My personal horror

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story is man wearing open -toed shoes in winter.

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I would say now that the season can save that

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because look, summer, that's fine. Winter, no,

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it's not. We're talking like nearly longest day

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of the year winter. Crazy. This is nuts though.

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I give this 50 -50. This is a 50 -50 real or

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not, personally. Maybe. This is hard to believe.

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Are you telling me, Eli, you're not going to

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give him an updoot or a bit of Reddit gold? Is

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that what you're telling me? I'll give him a

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wholesome Huggies award. I choose to believe

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this story is real, not because it is true, but

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because it is funny. I choose to believe every

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4chan green text I read is real. Life's just

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better that way. the upvotes by the way for the

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comment underneath about the smell of dead body

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being the customers has just as many as the actual

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story itself yeah shout out to you shout out

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to the picture of the warhammer tournament where

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someone had oh my gosh those kids are freaking

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traumatized bro those kids got traumatized for

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sure i'm talking about the you know the picture

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of like the um you know like they have in tournaments

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or other places and you know in schools over

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like long lines like the same type of chair and

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it's like plastic or like you know spray painted

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metal and there's the infamous picture of the

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spray painted metal chair and it's got the streak

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on it it's the warhammer tournament streak chair

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i'm not looking it up nor am i putting it on

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this podcast can you imagine cleaning up your

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warhammer game after a dead guy like like rotting

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corpse probably like maggots and stuff in it

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and goop all over the table it's not quite the

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same thing but when i worked in uh medical engineering

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we were put up in like a gutted ward where there

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was like lots of pipes there was there was stickers

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on the ceiling saying do not disturb contains

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asbestos so that was fun nice we also had like

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we had to like barter and fight and scrounge

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for everything we could get and we had shelving

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and it was unfortunately underneath a waste pipe

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and it had like thousands of pounds worth of

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machines on it and one day i got a message from

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my boss like oh by the way um could you send

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a bunch of people over and i'm like why is it

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oh a waste pipe has burst on all of these expensive

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pieces of machinery and they are caked in poop

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Yummy. I have another offering to begin this

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group. This is also in the same Reddit thread,

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by the way. Shout to Hobby Nightmares. I used

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to work at GW a while back and we had a kid who

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quite literally deep striked through the ceiling.

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It was a massively busy day in a tiny store,

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and this kid opened the door to the storeroom

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without anyone noticing. The storeroom was upstairs

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in the attic area, or in this attic area, but

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only half of the upstairs area was actually floor.

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The rest was just the top of the ceiling, which

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I guess looked interesting enough for him to

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step on. I was talking to some other customer

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when suddenly there was an explosion of dust,

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and this kid just plowed through the ceiling

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like a drop pod. Again, the place was tiny. So

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how he missed the tables, shelves, or any customers

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is a mystery that still perplexes me. Not a scratch

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on him either. Absolute madman. Followed by the

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second comment, which is, thank God scatter dice

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are no longer a thing. Oh my God. You know, that

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one I can believe easily because that's a dumb

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kid being somewhere he shouldn't. I can respect

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that. Oh man, that is bad. I mean, whose parent

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is not watching this kid, though? Oh, I wouldn't

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be surprised. Have you seen kids these days?

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You may probably just go leave them at the LGS

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and go shop somewhere else. Andy, kids these

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days, that is far less common nowadays than it

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used to be. You go to the mall, have fun, little

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Timmy. I'll see you in, you know, 10 hours. Something

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that might show my age is that I would think...

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Me and my brother were the last kids to, like,

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play on our street. Like, outside. Yeah, me too.

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And I don't think the younger kids did that.

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That's how old I feel. I miss malls. Yeah, me

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too, Ming. I wouldn't really have that here,

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though, in that UK stuff. They're not as, like,

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big. You have malls, but they're not, like, a

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thing. They're not, like, a communal hub where

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you hang out. They're more just, like, shop and

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leave, please. I used to just, you know, once,

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like... once a week maybe not once a week but

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at least like once every two weeks some friends

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and i we just we go to the mall we just go walk

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around hang out get some food at the food court

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maybe buy something let's go to the mall do you

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reckon i think a case a crazy thing of like even

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like this story of like like i think apparently

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because obviously like it used to be a thing

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like people's parents like take their kids to

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warhammer shops and they'll be like well you

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know we'll buy something today and then we'll

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like take them as a group of kids and then we'll

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like do it like paint up and they play a bit

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Do you reckon the parents walk in the shops,

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look at the price of a box, and go, never mind.

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I wouldn't be shocked, yeah. I can't afford groceries,

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let alone a defiler. This is too much money.

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50 quid for a five -man group. Are you joking?

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Yeah. This is my strong opening start, though,

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I thought, which is, again, must be a massive

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nightmare, legal -wise, in the shop for that.

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That's a hell of a... Why do you have to say

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the kid... Was he drop -potted? He deep -striped.

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He deep -striped the kid. That sounds intentional,

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but he thorned through the kid through the ceiling.

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That is my opening contribution. Should I share

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the one you supplied Colin? The first one? By

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all means, I'd be happy to cover that. This one

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is actually just kind of sad. uh see now i i

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pulled up some green texts because i went through

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our warhammer and a couple other ones forever

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i don't know how hell found stories i was saying

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it i'm legitimately kind of impressed because

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it was just 10 000 shitty memes upon me yeah

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yeah wholesome stuff i googled like warhammer

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horror story reddit and then i found some but

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yeah i wasn't doing it i did not scroll through

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reddit 40k there's no freaking way i was gonna

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do that but no i have so much of my soul that

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can be leeched off of me and my life force drained

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i like this one because it's it's sad though

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uh so me and my childhood friend get into warhammer

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together when we're 10 friend gets dark angels

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and i get imperial guard Played a lot of 2v2

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games, and he'd always deep strike his deathwing

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to protect my artillery and painted models to

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look like us. And here's the whammy. Friend died

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from cancer five years ago and left all of his

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Warhammer stuff to me. Always bring an allied

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detachment of dark angels. Deathwing now. Always

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have them deep strike to protect my basilisk.

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Have won me many games, including one where the

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model representing my friend rolled four sixes

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in melee and slaughtered a demon prince. His

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models always seem to roll well. It hurts Anons.

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That is a rollercoaster, man. That one's sad,

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but I don't know. That's like the bittersweet,

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touching kind of sad. That one's nice. That one

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kind of gets me. We're all real human beings.

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Every now and again, something unfortunate isn't

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terrible. Maybe. I have a memory of that, because

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I had a similar thing with a friend, and then

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they loved Halo. I didn't have an Xbox at the

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time, but I still have a cool memory of them

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just absolutely ramming through Halo. Like even,

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oh God, that would be, I don't know if it's Halo,

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I don't know if it is like Reach or if that's

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Halo. It might even be the goddamn first Halo.

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But I was like, yeah, I remember that. I'm like,

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damn. So I have cool memories of that game. Even

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though I was a bit younger than him, so I just

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remember watching it and I was like, this is

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so cool. oh my god damn cool unfortunately i

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was like the only kid who had an xbox so all

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the other guys were playstation guys and i'd

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be like halo's cool and they're like nah like

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is war and mass effect cool because mass effect

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used to be an exclusive it's like no yeah that's

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right and then they're like do you want to play

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uncharted i'm like is it multiplayer and they're

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like that stinks so well and then they made a

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multiplayer one oh it's still bad it still kind

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of sucks Hey Andy, do you want to play Killzone?

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Thank you. It's dreadful. When you played Halo

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at that era, it's like, Killzone. I'll say, Elo,

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because you've been, I think out of all of us,

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even though you're the youngest, you've been

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probably collecting models longer than any of

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us. Do you have any ones where it's like you

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got that from someone else and it's still being

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used to this day? Or most of your stuff is your

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own poor financial decisions? I mean, I have

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my friends. Eldar, who's a pilot, and he moved

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away to Montreal and he works in Montreal as

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a pilot. I don't know. That's cool. I don't know.

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What's everyone's first Warhammer model, actually?

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What's the first one they ever got? Eldar Viper.

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I still have it. I still have a lot of my old

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models, I guess. My brother -in -law painted

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that knight back there. I can't even freaking

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point to it. Oh my gosh. It is reversed. It's

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reversed. I don't know, what else? I know mine

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was, because I bought them at the same time,

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those old, like the, I don't even remember the

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name for them, but it came with, you know, paintbrush,

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six fit -in models, or three fit -in models,

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and some paints. I bought one of the three Stormcast

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and one of the three Primaris Intercessors. God,

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this is, you never, do you never own any, like,

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firstborn before, or you were, like, I bought

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some firstborn. Those were the first non -pushfit

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thing I assembled. It's the Tactical Marines.

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That seems like the best place to start learning

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to paint the classic. That's where I got the

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channel guy from. The little double fister. What

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about you, Andy? Andy's more of a recent one.

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He has his first one, don't you? My first. Oh,

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well, technically, no, because I'm looking for

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an image of the ones I used to collect because

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I again, I've told the story before on the podcast,

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but I could only afford like the the starter

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sets that you could buy like five ultramarines

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with like two, three paints. And that was the

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only ones they stocked at the place where my

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mom worked. But she had a discount. So it's like,

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oh, cool, like 10 percent off. And I've got some

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pictures now of like the abominations that were

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available. uh let me just make them to jpeg so

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i can share them and i i think at the height

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of my painting at the time when i was like 10

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-ish i must have had about 30 of these maybe

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more and they're all the same color and it's

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like it's like these fellas like that for classic

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that's like my era good stuff i also distinctly

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remember this one which is the uh the rocket

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guy And I remember him because it's just the

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proportions are so crazy with a rocket launcher.

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Nice. They are cool. It's interesting how, like,

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such, like, obviously people are like, oh, Warhammer's

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not, like, grimdark anymore. And I always look

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at older models, and I always think of, like,

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they're so, like, pop -up, aren't they? They're,

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like, cutesy. I miss the 80s. Me too. I was a

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foolish child, and I would often, if I wanted

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to start a new army, I would sell my older stuff.

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Every time I've sold Warhammer, I've regretted

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it almost every single time. So now I hold on

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to most of the things that I get. I do remember

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there was, I tell a slight lie, you could get

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bespoke Warhammer stuff from a very small independent

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shop in Guernsey, and it was called Beam Me Up

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Scotty, but it was so expensive. All the stuff

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in that shop was like, I have no pocket money.

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I have zero pounds. I can't buy any of this.

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And you just see like, oh, what's this like Star

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Wars toy thing? And it's like, it's 80 pounds.

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You're like, oh, okay. It's the early 2000s.

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This sucks. My most nostalgic model is probably

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my first crisis battle suit, which I got for

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my birthday from my friend. It's not on my shelf,

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I guess. He's probably actually probably back

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there somewhere. But he's he's named he's named

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Chrissy. He's Chrissy the crisis suit. I painted

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him when I was a little kid. I wonder if he's

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back there. He's probably behind that Vespid

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box, if I had to guess. I like the way you say

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that, like he's scurrying around when you're

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not looking at a toy store. I played a goofy,

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weird Warhammer guy in the play that I was in

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when I was a kid, because you got to make your

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own little thing. And I glued Chrissy to my shoulder

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on the costume. So he goes, yeah. I still have

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him, though. I still have him. Aww. I think that

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was it. My only play story was completely cutting

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off a girl's entire part on X -Men. But to be

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fair, this was a play for the Greek story Narcissus,

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so by God, if there was a character that cut

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someone off completely, it was the guy so full

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of himself he died at his reflection. I think

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I've said my one before, but it's that battle

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from a crag set, and I inadvertently painted

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them as silver skulls. I don't know what I did

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with the Tyranid pieces, though. And I did end

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up buying the old school Command Squad. If anyone

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remembers the one before the Primaris ones. I

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don't know what I... I think my mum gave them

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away. I'm so gutted. I'm like, oh, such nostalgia.

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I must have been like nine or something. Eight,

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maybe. Back in the old days. Me and Andy, born

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in the 1990s. That Imperial armor book back there

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that I can't point out still. I remember getting

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that when I was a little kid because I ordered

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it from the internet and we had to go get it

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at customs and my parents had to pay like 50

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bucks or something at customs just to have it.

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I was kind of in trouble, but I've had it since.

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It's very dear to my heart as well. Nice. I only

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have an image offering that I found on Reddit.

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This is what I found. For your convenience, management

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can provide an extra receipt for whatever price

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you told your spouse this cost. Just like boxes

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and boxes. I wouldn't lie to my wife. I wouldn't

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lie to my wife. This is disastrous. tactic this

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is unfailable this will damage your marriage

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yeah that works until the credit card bill you

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know comes in and then uh hey what's this don't

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lie don't lie to your wife they haven't they

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haven't patched this instant divorce this bug

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currently uh should we do some further first

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if any donos or Let's just mention also Border

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Prince is here. Oh, hey, man. Hey. Back in my

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day, Praetorians were the hot thing. Oh, yeah.

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Nice. Back in the day. First donation. Just need

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this. DonkeyManUSA, stream Lady of the Howgooning

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to rwarhammer underscore smut. You know it. Appreciate

00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.079
it, man. We can always write documents $2 at

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the beginning of a stream. That's how we get

00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.579
it. He's never failed to say this. Document USA

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again for $5. After a month of drinking Everclear,

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vodka goes down like water. Appreciate it, man.

00:20:51.299 --> 00:20:54.920
Everclear, make me feel fine. And then we got

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one from Gnomius. Do you want to read this one?

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Hey, guys, I hope you all have a great day. Enjoy

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the time we play Dawn of War. Heck yeah. Hope

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we have round two soon. Also, Hal, you definitely

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are not helping yourself with the killing of

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the homeless. I wasn't the person in the story.

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What do you mean? You were the person who, as

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soon as they said homeless, started going...

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It's quite objectively hilarious that a corpse

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falls on a table. thank you thank you for the

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donations low crimes exist for you guys i was

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corpsing about corpses very good also um yeah

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we played a little bit of members only dawn of

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war the other day so if you become a member you

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can beat us in dawn of war well feels like once

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a month probably Or you can team up with the

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rest of us to kill two AI orc players and win

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after being destroyed again and again and again

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and hearing me go, I don't know how to play anything

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but Space Marines. They're very, very dense,

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aren't they? Yeah. Eli, should we cover the first

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one you supplied? This one here, I believe. All

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right, I've got to go full screen so I can actually

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read this. This was back in late 4th or early

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5th edition, but I played a pickup game at the

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store. I was a regular with a new Tyranid player

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against my guard. He said he was quite new, so

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was wondering if he could use models that were

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just bases to flesh out some of his gaunt units.

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I figured it didn't really matter if there were

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10 blank bases in across a few big hordes of

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gaunts, so I agreed to help him learn the game.

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Shout out to the Invisible Legion. for real for

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real uh cut to turn three and he's virulently

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arguing i can't draw a line of sight to the gaunt

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unit because the bases are being blocked by a

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short piece of scattered terrain there's no turn

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four mfs like that do exist we had a guy in his

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early 20s who would throw his very well painted

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models in rage the second anything went wrong

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He eventually got banned from the store for pushing

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a staff person trying to calm him down. Last

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I saw him before he enlisted in the Marines and

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disappeared. Classic. I'm sure he'll be a great

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soldier. Oh my gosh. I knew people like this

00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.539
too, but I've noticed in the last like 10 years,

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there's been like a freak extinction event. There's

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no more freaks at the LGS. I don't know where

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they all went. Just get more regular people playing

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40k. Yeah, I guess. No, no, they're all addicted

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to mobile games now. Might have just moved on

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to Magic or something. Like, this one's far easier

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to be a freak with. Easier to carry around Magic

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cards. Also, the store was kind of a dumping

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ground for younger kids whose parents didn't

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want to mind them, and one kid drank four 12

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-hour energy drinks in a few minutes, and the

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store had to call an ambulance. Another time,

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Right when Cities of Death came out, a kid impaled

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his hand on a piece of new terrain, so the store

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clipped off all the pointy bits. None of that

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could really be blamed on the store, though,

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and more just negligent parents. After this,

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I took a pause from the hobby due to university

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and the likes, and I'm coming back for 9th edition.

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Only play with people I like outside of a tournament

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setting, so way less horror stories. I'm out.

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Shout out that kid. Shout out Cities of Death.

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I want to play Cities of Death. Did you guys

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ever go to like kind of those, I was talking

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here about you'd kind of dump your kids there

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and they do their own thing. I remember when

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I was a kid, there was a Friday club and it was

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at the Guernsey Salvation Army Center. And it'd

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be like N64 playing Pokemon Stadium and like

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GoldenEye and all that. And there'd be like a

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bit where there was a booth with a very grumpy

00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.299
lady and you'd give her like money to buy sweets

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and then you'd have like sugary sweets. drinks

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and sweets and you play pokemon stadium and you'd

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accidentally press um the wrong button when you

00:24:52.940 --> 00:24:54.680
were trying to press earthquake to beat the other

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player then even though you had better speed

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you'd lose the engagement because it was like

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one hits because it's just the preset characters

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not ones you brought your gameboy of course and

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then like you would strop the whole night supposedly

00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:08.220
because you were going to win the match but because

00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:09.900
it's those stupid controllers with the little

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yellow buttons you accidentally press the wrong

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button and that never happened to me once Sure,

00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.359
that was a purely hypothetical story, I'm sure.

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I hung out with this kid at my LGS a lot when

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I was a kid. It was Warhammer nights every Wednesday

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and Saturday. Two nights a week, Warhammer nights.

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And I went to, I got to go to most of them because,

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you know, 13 -year -old kid, I got all the free

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time in the world. It was pretty great. It's

00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:37.119
pretty great. And that was back in the day when

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we lived in a high -trust society where we could

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play past the store's closing hours and you would

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just lock up the store for them. when you were

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done so that was awesome that's crazy isaac that

00:25:48.059 --> 00:25:51.359
is crazy now to be fair britain wouldn't get

00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:55.200
it the uk but yeah that was cool but one time

00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:59.259
one time my dad found out that me and like my

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other friend when we were like 14 were the last

00:26:02.579 --> 00:26:04.980
ones there until like 10 or 11 p .m when it's

00:26:04.980 --> 00:26:07.880
dark outside and it's like in downtown in a rougher

00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.960
spot and he got really mad at the store owner

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and the store owner had to tell everyone like

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you can't leave these guys by themselves and

00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:19.359
i was very embarrassed uh and yeah yeah damn

00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:21.279
he's doing his job though he's doing his job

00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:26.099
yeah that makes sense well we all know that um

00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:28.460
how grew up doing fencing so he must have been

00:26:28.460 --> 00:26:33.609
at the chalet playing his games. I didn't have

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anyone to play Warhammer when I was growing up.

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You had the butler, surely. I remember I got

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the Warhammer McCrag set company heroes and then

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I think one with assault marines is all i could

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ever get as in like over the years i ever was

00:26:56.890 --> 00:26:58.750
into it that's all i was ever gonna be able to

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afford and then i just played toy soldier with

00:27:02.769 --> 00:27:05.630
myself basically is that what they're calling

00:27:05.630 --> 00:27:09.509
it now oh yeah my my parents weren't overly happy

00:27:09.509 --> 00:27:11.369
that i was hanging out with like a bunch of 40

00:27:11.369 --> 00:27:13.910
year olds i know that yeah that is weird isn't

00:27:13.910 --> 00:27:15.869
it there's a lot of good quotes in this episode

00:27:15.869 --> 00:27:18.269
i'm just seeing the clips in my head like oh

00:27:18.269 --> 00:27:21.599
yeah But it was good. They were all good dudes.

00:27:22.579 --> 00:27:25.200
No one ever did anything scary. What is going

00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.200
on with this one from Shalaxy? Eli hangs out

00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.420
with kids and hates his wife, allegedly. Wow.

00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.059
I love my wife. I love my wife and I don't hang

00:27:33.059 --> 00:27:38.099
out with kids. They were the dudes hanging out

00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:41.259
with kids. It was me and my two other buddies.

00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:45.859
That's just weird. I don't know if I would play

00:27:45.859 --> 00:27:47.980
a game with someone who's like, if you were an

00:27:47.980 --> 00:27:49.579
11 -year -old, I'd be like, it's just a bit weird

00:27:49.579 --> 00:27:53.940
in terms of where's their parents? You know what

00:27:53.940 --> 00:27:59.240
I mean? Because you feel like if you stomp the

00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:02.440
kid in the game, it feels bad, doesn't it? Or

00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.759
if you go too easy, is that not taking the service?

00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:10.319
They need to learn young. Yeah. As someone who

00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.200
used to play Tekken, at certain games and stuff

00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.720
and you're like oh this kid wants to play tekken

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:19.779
yeah whenever we didn't play at the store though

00:28:19.779 --> 00:28:22.079
we would play with like all this homemade stuff

00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.259
my one friend logan he would make he tried making

00:28:25.259 --> 00:28:29.079
play -doh uh models like you make a cast out

00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:30.599
of play -doh and then you like put it in the

00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.619
freezer and you have like actual play -doh guys

00:28:32.619 --> 00:28:34.720
so that was funny and he made a lot of cardboard

00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.299
train i remember i made like cardboard battlements

00:28:37.299 --> 00:28:41.160
to go on one time logan's playing his chaos and

00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.299
i was playing tao and this was i had the flyer

00:28:44.299 --> 00:28:45.960
so this was probably i guess it was still a sixth

00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.079
edition we were just kids maybe in seventh but

00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.559
no six i had the razor shark flyer thing And

00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.099
he had Abaddon and my flyer and Abaddon were

00:28:54.099 --> 00:28:56.240
the two last models on the board. And he refused

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.440
to end the game until one of us died completely.

00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:01.440
We can only hit the flyer on sixes when Abaddon

00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.380
has his two plus save. And my flyer didn't have

00:29:03.380 --> 00:29:05.359
anything to get through a two plus save. So we

00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:07.519
spent like an hour shooting at each other with

00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.799
these two models. He eventually shot down the

00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.940
flyer with his bolt. It was a strength for my

00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:15.279
flyers armor 10. Anyways, that was, those were

00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.039
good times. Those are the days of mini war gaming

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:20.950
and Logan had his own defy and. oh good days

00:29:20.950 --> 00:29:26.269
good days i uh my biggest regret actually my

00:29:26.269 --> 00:29:29.410
biggest warhammer regret literally ever is when

00:29:29.410 --> 00:29:33.069
logan got out of the hobby when we're like i

00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:39.069
don't know 16 maybe uh ish maybe 15 15 16 whatever

00:29:39.069 --> 00:29:42.059
i don't know what i inherited is chaos marines

00:29:42.059 --> 00:29:45.200
and then i sold them to a guy i sold these chaos

00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.779
marines to a guy and i regret it to this day

00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:50.019
i could have that the filer did not deserve that

00:29:50.019 --> 00:29:55.579
oh it makes me sad it makes me very sad do we

00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:58.160
have a uh another with the next one there andy

00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.660
um do you want me to read number uh one of yours

00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:02.940
number three the one with the spicy language

00:30:02.940 --> 00:30:06.240
you had to maybe we should say that one for the

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.710
end because that okay Is that the Primark themed

00:30:11.710 --> 00:30:15.210
ones? Yes. Do you want to go with this one, Andy?

00:30:15.349 --> 00:30:18.009
We have a Primark segment, guys. This is from

00:30:18.009 --> 00:30:22.990
r slash 40k lore, I think. Or r slash Warhammer

00:30:22.990 --> 00:30:28.839
lore. And we're letting people know... Sorry,

00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.660
you first. I was interrupting for nonsense. You

00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:35.920
finish. These are just people who they want to

00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.900
give their true opinion on Primarchs. I think

00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:40.660
some people might have some fair points here.

00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.759
Primarchs in general or specific Primarchs. The

00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:50.500
problem with the Primarchs... Sorry. Now see,

00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:52.619
I'm going the immediate opposite tone of voice

00:30:52.619 --> 00:30:55.380
for you. I believe the person who posted this

00:30:55.380 --> 00:30:59.210
deserves... $10 million and a blowjob, and I

00:30:59.210 --> 00:31:04.349
will deliver if need be. Okay. The problem with

00:31:04.349 --> 00:31:07.750
the Primarchs is that they become the focus of

00:31:07.750 --> 00:31:10.970
absolutely everything given their larger -than

00:31:10.970 --> 00:31:13.210
-life status, which basically means the entirety

00:31:13.210 --> 00:31:15.150
of the 40K setting gets twisted around their

00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:18.230
personalities. Previously, 40K was more about

00:31:18.230 --> 00:31:22.049
individual stories with a great setting. We didn't

00:31:22.049 --> 00:31:24.049
really get plot arcs centered on a singular individual.

00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.980
I was going to say, other than Abaddon and Eldrad,

00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:28.559
and those are basically a rare treat rather than

00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.079
a core facet of the setting, Primarch's coming

00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:33.140
back doesn't necessarily make the setting worse,

00:31:33.259 --> 00:31:36.619
but it does make it different in a way. 40k becomes

00:31:36.619 --> 00:31:38.299
less of a setting in which stories take place

00:31:38.299 --> 00:31:40.660
and more of a centralized story arc with Gilliman

00:31:40.660 --> 00:31:42.880
being the heart of it that has an attached setting.

00:31:43.619 --> 00:31:45.960
Further, there's an issue of how power creep,

00:31:46.099 --> 00:31:47.700
particularly given how Abaddon is supposed to

00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:49.920
be the big bad of the setting. Abaddon cannot

00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:54.250
match a Primarch in his present form. And only

00:31:54.250 --> 00:31:56.329
way for him to do so that is lore consistent

00:31:56.329 --> 00:31:59.670
is itself not lore consistent. Abaddon would

00:31:59.670 --> 00:32:01.490
have to become a demon prince and it's absolutely

00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:04.049
not in his character to become one. Finally,

00:32:04.190 --> 00:32:06.509
you're assuming 40K didn't have big lore characters

00:32:06.509 --> 00:32:09.609
before. We did. We had tons of them. all deserving

00:32:09.609 --> 00:32:13.069
that are their own plot plot arcs but now they've

00:32:13.069 --> 00:32:15.609
been sidelined in favor of the primarks interesting

00:32:15.609 --> 00:32:19.569
real so based real real so real all the primers

00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:22.549
yeah all of their heads off and put them on urinal

00:32:22.549 --> 00:32:27.730
spikes i hate primers this guy this guy this

00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:30.869
guy's a real one he's an old head he's based

00:32:30.869 --> 00:32:34.549
none of this new age bull crap It's a setting,

00:32:35.470 --> 00:32:37.509
and it's not supposed to progress, and there's

00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:40.170
so much progression in this setting. To be fair,

00:32:40.250 --> 00:32:42.769
the two guys with the Commonwealth were like,

00:32:42.829 --> 00:32:45.230
no, actually, I think that the hereditary sons

00:32:45.230 --> 00:32:47.549
of the ruler should actually be a big part of

00:32:47.549 --> 00:32:52.990
the setting. Down with the monarchy! Former Republic

00:32:52.990 --> 00:32:58.630
of Warhammer! No, not for the Republic. I think

00:32:58.630 --> 00:33:00.490
it makes a very valid point, though, doesn't

00:33:00.490 --> 00:33:05.079
it? In terms of the... the vibe it's a different

00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.559
it makes sense like it isn't bad but it is a

00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:13.099
different vibe now i suppose you could say yeah

00:33:13.099 --> 00:33:14.700
that's that's what that's what horace heresy

00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:16.960
was for that was the whole point of reading horace

00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:20.019
heresy in other words making warhammer 40k horace

00:33:20.019 --> 00:33:22.990
heresy For the money, though, remember, it's

00:33:22.990 --> 00:33:24.750
all about the money. I know it's for the money.

00:33:25.410 --> 00:33:27.250
It doesn't mean it's okay. It doesn't mean it's

00:33:27.250 --> 00:33:29.430
better. No, I don't think it's okay. I just remember

00:33:29.430 --> 00:33:31.690
just keeping in mind, guys. One of the points

00:33:31.690 --> 00:33:35.569
I was going to make is like, yeah, but they are

00:33:35.569 --> 00:33:37.809
obviously like the big money makers for like,

00:33:37.829 --> 00:33:41.609
whether it's models, joy toys, books, a video

00:33:41.609 --> 00:33:44.589
game, like, like the element was in Battlefleet

00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:46.650
Gothic. The lion's going to be in Dawn of War

00:33:46.650 --> 00:33:49.599
now. Like, yeah. I understand what you're saying,

00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.019
but also, like, he's pretty cool. Look at that

00:33:52.019 --> 00:33:53.259
guy. He's really cool. I don't want to read about

00:33:53.259 --> 00:33:55.160
what Captain Allerham is doing. I don't want

00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.660
to read about what frickin' Lehman Russ is gooning

00:33:57.660 --> 00:33:59.599
all over the place, all over the Thousand Suns

00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.160
for the 20th time. I'm so excited for him to

00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:08.039
rescue Isha. That could... It makes me... The

00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:11.739
part I find, like, it fundamentally changed as

00:34:11.739 --> 00:34:15.119
well, is, like, the scale of what... Before...

00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.039
uh gilliman return the scale of like the galaxy

00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.619
seems so much larger and then now the prime marks

00:34:23.619 --> 00:34:25.679
are turning back it's it just it's that sort

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.260
of thing like there's a few more like there's

00:34:27.260 --> 00:34:30.460
like a few key players who can shift it all like

00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:32.480
it doesn't feel as big do you know what i mean

00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.659
yeah very much i agree yeah it's taken away like

00:34:35.659 --> 00:34:38.159
the colossal scale of everything a bit it's like

00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.730
what's the doing i want to know It's not the

00:34:40.730 --> 00:34:42.949
zoom out and go look at a random place and zoom

00:34:42.949 --> 00:34:44.510
out and go look at the other side of the galaxy.

00:34:44.590 --> 00:34:46.130
Now it's just one little space that you're looking

00:34:46.130 --> 00:34:48.230
at. I have a question. What's your opinion in

00:34:48.230 --> 00:34:51.969
post 999 .1041? Because for a long time, that

00:34:51.969 --> 00:34:55.230
was the end of the settings. It's all happening

00:34:55.230 --> 00:34:58.369
here. Yeah, in this one year. And it was like,

00:34:58.369 --> 00:35:00.690
oh, these things happened. And then now we're

00:35:00.690 --> 00:35:04.889
like, oh. Oh, it's still good. And now it's like,

00:35:04.989 --> 00:35:07.030
oh, we now got a whole new millennium to explore.

00:35:07.210 --> 00:35:11.190
And it's like. okay if you open the books if

00:35:11.190 --> 00:35:14.469
you open 99 of the books it says it is the 41st

00:35:14.469 --> 00:35:19.449
millennium and it's supposed to stay the 41st

00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:23.010
millennium that's the whole point maybe it's

00:35:23.010 --> 00:35:27.469
a weird uh it's like a a symbol of gw itself

00:35:27.469 --> 00:35:31.869
in that they as a company had like stagnated

00:35:31.869 --> 00:35:34.789
and then and like like the setting itself it

00:35:34.789 --> 00:35:36.710
stagnated and then obviously when the new leadership

00:35:36.710 --> 00:35:39.630
came in that's when the new leadership said,

00:35:39.829 --> 00:35:43.090
yo, we need to pump these numbers up. We're dying.

00:35:43.610 --> 00:35:47.769
So then that's when they revamped the setting.

00:35:48.090 --> 00:35:51.869
Well, I understand like, obviously in my brain,

00:35:51.929 --> 00:35:56.010
I know why it happened. I do miss, I am a heresy

00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:58.610
enjoyer, but I like the fact that the Primarchs

00:35:58.610 --> 00:36:01.750
are there. And in my opinion, more of the Primarchs

00:36:01.750 --> 00:36:03.630
should have died during the Horus heresy because

00:36:03.630 --> 00:36:08.219
it's... it is different from 40 K as in 40 K

00:36:08.219 --> 00:36:11.420
is about the, the people, the endless tides of,

00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.539
you know, the guard and the, the very rare space

00:36:14.539 --> 00:36:17.059
Marine fighting the endless enemies, the ever

00:36:17.059 --> 00:36:20.000
growing enemies. Whereas heresy is like a space

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.980
opera of like this weird daddy issues thing.

00:36:24.219 --> 00:36:27.039
And then I liked that it like, you know what

00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.619
I mean? Like it can end, you know, it should,

00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.239
I didn't like that's all point. It's like the

00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.260
myth, you know, Hercules, Hercules, the myth

00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:35.420
of Hercules. Hercules is not sticking around

00:36:35.420 --> 00:36:37.599
in modern day. Hercules doesn't, you know, Achilles

00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:41.119
dies or something like that. You don't even necessarily

00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:43.000
need to kill more of them, though, for the longest

00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:44.760
time. It's like, what are the traitor Primarchs

00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.519
doing? They don't care anymore. They're part

00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:48.719
of the great game. They have better things to

00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.570
deal with than real space. I think it'd be cool

00:36:51.570 --> 00:36:55.010
if they died. Oh, it'd be fine if they died too,

00:36:55.070 --> 00:36:57.050
so that way they can just be like, no, you can't

00:36:57.050 --> 00:37:00.269
do it. But still, it's like, even their side,

00:37:00.289 --> 00:37:01.969
they don't need to die. They had a perfectly

00:37:01.969 --> 00:37:04.769
good excuse. They don't care about reality anymore.

00:37:04.789 --> 00:37:07.849
They have better things to do. The demon Primarchs

00:37:07.849 --> 00:37:09.690
also have the advantage of they can be killed,

00:37:09.829 --> 00:37:11.869
and they're just in timeout for a few years,

00:37:11.929 --> 00:37:13.730
and then they come back like a bad rash. It's

00:37:13.730 --> 00:37:16.110
like, Mortarion, you again. Angron, you again.

00:37:16.289 --> 00:37:19.809
Ugh. But I don't know. I feel like, let's be

00:37:19.809 --> 00:37:22.570
honest. They are going to bring back all the

00:37:22.570 --> 00:37:26.010
Primarchs that are still alive. But the setting

00:37:26.010 --> 00:37:29.210
can't finish. And they've kind of done this thing

00:37:29.210 --> 00:37:31.130
with, like, Lion is in one half of the Imperium,

00:37:31.150 --> 00:37:33.570
Gilliman's in the other. I think the best course

00:37:33.570 --> 00:37:35.789
of action would be, like, right, bring back Jagatai,

00:37:35.809 --> 00:37:39.989
but he's stuck in the webway. Bring back Leman,

00:37:40.070 --> 00:37:43.070
but he's doing some, like, weird Space Wolf stuff.

00:37:43.929 --> 00:37:45.809
Volkan's been there the entire time. He turns

00:37:45.809 --> 00:37:47.550
up briefly and is like, I'm not getting involved.

00:37:48.179 --> 00:37:50.639
Yeah, like Korax can invade the Eye of Terror

00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.820
with the Raven Guard and continue doing his ca

00:37:52.820 --> 00:37:56.079
-ca -ca -ca, Lorgar, come and face me. Nah, I'm

00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.099
alright, thanks, I'm having chili and dip. Like,

00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.900
okay, whatever. As long as you, I think, separate

00:38:01.900 --> 00:38:04.800
them and not bring them all back to the fold

00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.800
until they want to end the setting and restart

00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.880
it, I think that would be okay. Because let's

00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:11.500
be honest, they're going to bring them back.

00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.900
We just need them to be like... And there is

00:38:15.900 --> 00:38:17.920
the idea of maybe also having an inter -imperium

00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.559
war where they start to disagree, which causes

00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.039
more conflict, and then the loyalists turn on

00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.159
each other, and then there's also chaos involved.

00:38:26.619 --> 00:38:32.659
You could add more grimdark by having the good

00:38:32.659 --> 00:38:35.059
guys also fighting amongst themselves, just like

00:38:35.059 --> 00:38:38.059
chaos do, and then nothing ever getting resolved.

00:38:39.300 --> 00:38:43.539
The rule with Warhammer is the rule of cool always

00:38:43.539 --> 00:38:48.179
wins over common sense like that's the i remember

00:38:48.179 --> 00:38:51.820
that like it is a manufacturing model range they

00:38:51.820 --> 00:38:55.239
do not like it's like consistent story my dude

00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.159
what are you talking about let me get this plastic

00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.780
into people's homes yeah i gotta be realistic

00:39:02.780 --> 00:39:05.840
with myself sometimes yeah i think we have we

00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.280
have more primark hate by the way coming uh do

00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:09.880
you want to do another one andy because there's

00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:11.519
a yeah should i do number five from you because

00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.139
you got a few more so let's do number five um

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.840
Who wants to read this one? I'll read it. Okay.

00:39:21.019 --> 00:39:25.360
Oh, boy. Speaking of Primarchs. Horus' fall to

00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:27.300
chaos is kind of weak. He gets stabbed with the

00:39:27.300 --> 00:39:30.039
Chaos Blade, gets the visions from Erebus. Magnus

00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.880
intervenes and tells Horus not to trust said

00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:35.280
visions, but decides to anyways. In my opinion,

00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:36.599
I don't think he should have fallen that quickly

00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.179
and not from one instance of these visions. At

00:39:39.179 --> 00:39:41.460
least not all at once. I think he should have

00:39:41.460 --> 00:39:43.500
been stabbed, yes, but much earlier and had the

00:39:43.500 --> 00:39:45.820
chaos influence be slower acting and not obvious

00:39:45.820 --> 00:39:47.500
at first with some recurring visions popping

00:39:47.500 --> 00:39:49.840
into his head. Maybe said visions could show

00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.159
future events, which over time come true. Maybe

00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.559
chaos agents help these events along, making

00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:58.300
chaos seem more legitimate in his eyes. Yeah.

00:39:58.739 --> 00:40:00.820
I also think the strain of being war master,

00:40:00.980 --> 00:40:02.599
the growing reality of dealing with imperial

00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:04.659
bureaucracy and fears of what will happen to

00:40:04.659 --> 00:40:06.400
the Primarchs and Astartes after the crusade

00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.820
ends should play a bigger part in his and other

00:40:08.820 --> 00:40:12.219
traitor legions. than chaos, at least at first.

00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:14.619
Combine this with the slow -acting chaos corruption,

00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:18.320
and I think it would be more believable. Another

00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:20.900
thing that might help is to flesh out the Lost

00:40:20.900 --> 00:40:22.659
Legion. You had me for a minute, and then you

00:40:22.659 --> 00:40:25.559
lost me hard at the end for being wiped out.

00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.800
It may make something more sinister, like simply

00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:29.900
voicing objections to orders, or maybe the destruction

00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:31.639
could be interpreted as the beginnings of the

00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:33.460
legions being called like the Thunder Warriors.

00:40:34.059 --> 00:40:38.230
Okay, you saved it. A little. Make it a conspiracy

00:40:38.230 --> 00:40:40.289
that once revealed helps push many of the traitors

00:40:40.289 --> 00:40:45.570
into open revolt. I'm mostly with you. I don't

00:40:45.570 --> 00:40:48.369
want anyone to touch those legions, I'm going

00:40:48.369 --> 00:40:50.309
to be honest. There's already too much about

00:40:50.309 --> 00:40:55.289
them. There is inferred to be some of their gene

00:40:55.289 --> 00:40:59.730
seed in the soul drinkers as well. Because it's

00:40:59.730 --> 00:41:01.829
like, they're like, we're Imperial Fist successors

00:41:01.829 --> 00:41:04.349
and then Imperial Fists are like, no you're not.

00:41:07.429 --> 00:41:11.190
If you're in the first five or four or five Horus

00:41:11.190 --> 00:41:12.789
Heresy books, your fall of chaos is going to

00:41:12.789 --> 00:41:15.650
be bad. That's just how it is. Because there

00:41:15.650 --> 00:41:17.829
weren't supposed to be this many books. Yeah.

00:41:21.389 --> 00:41:23.489
But Hal, am I right in thinking that? I remember

00:41:23.489 --> 00:41:27.010
there was that thing about when Leman shanked

00:41:27.010 --> 00:41:30.469
Horus with his spear. There's a bit where he's

00:41:30.469 --> 00:41:32.630
fighting in the tides of the Immaterium. There's

00:41:32.630 --> 00:41:34.949
a fragment of his soul that's not fallen to chaos.

00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.719
And it's being, like, battened down. So, like,

00:41:37.780 --> 00:41:41.340
is it just, like, a bit of Horus? I can't believe

00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:43.159
it's not Horus. It's, like, there's a bit left.

00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.360
Oh, the one that Maligirst ends up sacrificing

00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.940
his life to destroy. Yeah. I mean, yeah, like,

00:41:49.980 --> 00:41:52.239
there's a... I mean, the part they don't... I

00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.440
think that's... The guy is right, but it's also

00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.380
in the book, so it's kind of poorly explained

00:41:57.380 --> 00:42:01.719
that Horus doesn't turn to chaos. He just betrays

00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.320
the Imperium in... uh false gods and he's gonna

00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.480
like when he speaks to Erebus and in Galaxy in

00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.360
Flames and they're cooking um the mistress Yngwie

00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.320
Sing isn't it mistress Yngwie Sing like his uh

00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.380
asherpath and he's like cooking her over he kills

00:42:21.380 --> 00:42:24.460
her like cooking her corks in a fire or something

00:42:24.460 --> 00:42:26.500
and Erebus is like this is how chaos works you

00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:31.119
can use it as a tool and Horus says yeah I will

00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:36.780
if I want to but I'm going to kill all my traitors

00:42:36.780 --> 00:42:40.280
on Isfahan 3 my way because I don't need chaos.

00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.019
I just understand the Emperor's a liar. So it

00:42:44.019 --> 00:42:46.699
doesn't explain it that well, which, again, it

00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:49.239
makes more sense. Horus just betrays the Emperor

00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.519
and turns it chaos, whereas a lot of people's

00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.719
interpretation is that he fell to chaos then.

00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.699
He didn't fall to chaos. He just thinks the Emperor

00:42:58.699 --> 00:43:02.590
is a liar. Yeah, again, like I said, it's just

00:43:02.590 --> 00:43:05.570
they weren't planning to have that many books,

00:43:05.690 --> 00:43:09.449
so some things seem rushed. It's a 60 -book series.

00:43:10.130 --> 00:43:14.090
It's kind of, as a joint piece, its cohesion

00:43:14.090 --> 00:43:19.389
is surprisingly okay. If you've worked in any

00:43:19.389 --> 00:43:22.190
company ever and you ever try to do a group project

00:43:22.190 --> 00:43:25.150
on anything ever, you will understand the miracle

00:43:25.150 --> 00:43:28.590
that it has, that it is, because try to do anything

00:43:28.590 --> 00:43:32.309
like that. Because, I mean, is there any other

00:43:32.309 --> 00:43:35.969
book series that's even close to having such

00:43:35.969 --> 00:43:38.070
a collaboration of different authors contributing

00:43:38.070 --> 00:43:40.670
to one setting? Because I know people might say,

00:43:40.730 --> 00:43:42.869
like, oh, Star Wars. But Star Wars is, like,

00:43:42.889 --> 00:43:45.809
fragmented in, like, some of its legends, some

00:43:45.809 --> 00:43:48.349
of its, like, the Thrawn stuff, some of its the...

00:43:48.349 --> 00:43:50.789
Yeah, and that's awful now, so... And it's gone.

00:43:50.829 --> 00:43:53.909
And it's not connected. And then, like, maybe

00:43:53.909 --> 00:43:55.849
Star Trek. Like, I know James Swallow did some

00:43:55.849 --> 00:43:57.409
Star Trek stuff, but I don't think it's interconnected.

00:43:58.590 --> 00:44:03.010
I can't think of anything else as vast. I'm going

00:44:03.010 --> 00:44:06.369
to hate to... Paul, that's my other friend. Colin

00:44:06.369 --> 00:44:08.250
and Eli are going to hate me saying this, but

00:44:08.250 --> 00:44:12.409
there's the Primark novel series, isn't there?

00:44:13.650 --> 00:44:17.530
There's still not a Horus Primark novel. An exclusive

00:44:17.530 --> 00:44:21.250
one. I'm sure what will fix the issue is if you

00:44:21.250 --> 00:44:23.769
get a little bit more time with Horus in one

00:44:23.769 --> 00:44:26.050
book, and then we'll be like, okay, you fixed

00:44:26.050 --> 00:44:28.940
it. Like the newest fun book. They fixed it.

00:44:29.219 --> 00:44:32.159
You know what I mean? You can fix it. Give us

00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.840
more heresy, please. Give me the slow. I want

00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.840
more, please. Nom, nom, nom. I like Warhammer.

00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.440
It's no secret. Waiter, waiter, more feces. Stick

00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.059
it in the trough. Stick it in the trough. The

00:44:46.059 --> 00:44:48.519
last two heresy, the scouring and the last heresy

00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.320
book are like some of the best books in Warhammer.

00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:56.260
Yeah, they are great. Should we raise more donations?

00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.500
Yes, we should. Let me just put this one here.

00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:03.920
To start us off, we got Shalaxy, the wettest

00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.119
of the grippers, for two. I sent Colin a shitty

00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:11.019
homebrew. I humbly beg you. I guess he better

00:45:11.019 --> 00:45:16.599
go check. I will go check. Okie dokie. A Nova

00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.659
box. Thank you very much for the $10. For Andy.

00:45:20.179 --> 00:45:23.230
Andy. even if you had my private investigators

00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:27.510
disappear i know that you are my bio dad know

00:45:27.510 --> 00:45:31.110
this father i will find you and we will have

00:45:31.110 --> 00:45:34.030
the father son bonding experience i so desperately

00:45:34.030 --> 00:45:37.170
crave the noble box thank you for ten dollars

00:45:37.170 --> 00:45:40.469
you are andy's uh it is it is plausible he could

00:45:40.469 --> 00:45:43.369
have a teenage child but i'd very much doubt

00:45:43.369 --> 00:45:48.530
it yeah yeah i don't think no i don't know like

00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.900
There'd have to be some kind of shenanigans going

00:45:51.900 --> 00:45:55.760
on with that. Not least of which, because I don't

00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:02.760
have the snip. But yes. Donkey Man USA again.

00:46:03.099 --> 00:46:06.360
For five bucks, I'm about to spend a few hundred

00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.840
bucks on kits to make the funny rat god on the

00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:14.480
throne. Wish me luck. Salute to this man. If

00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.739
you want to go check out Discord, guys. DonkeyMan

00:46:16.739 --> 00:46:18.840
has posted pictures of his lovely stuff. We forgot

00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.880
to choose a mini of the week, by the way. You

00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.400
still can. Have a look then. We've got a new

00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.460
member with Arthur Crispins. Thank you very much.

00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:31.960
Thank you very much. Welcome to Law Criminals.

00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:39.519
Thank you. Crazy PFP. That's a shiny man. Matt

00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.039
Eckert, thank you for the 10. I started in 2000

00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.659
with a 3rd edition starter kit that had 5 tactical

00:46:44.659 --> 00:46:46.820
marines which I painted as dark angels. Hell

00:46:46.820 --> 00:46:52.480
yeah. Very cool. We got a very nice one. A big

00:46:52.480 --> 00:47:02.880
one. Blocker XK. 3 ,000 ARS. 3 ,000 ARS. I've

00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.900
been watching the podcast for months and I've

00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:07.260
never seen Colin pass the insulin to the next

00:47:07.260 --> 00:47:09.559
guy. Bro acting like it would kill him to share

00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.420
that. You know, the three gentlemen I'm with,

00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.199
they make their own. They're fine. They're good.

00:47:15.300 --> 00:47:18.360
My roommate's diabetic. I could go get free insulin

00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:20.579
in the fridge right now and get jacked. Hey,

00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.780
what's your exact address and what times is he

00:47:22.780 --> 00:47:28.039
not home? My brother is also the type 1 diabetic

00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.340
as well. How often is your brother not in his

00:47:30.340 --> 00:47:34.309
house? The problem is, Colin, I think he is slightly

00:47:34.309 --> 00:47:37.469
shorter than you, but he is as big as Eli in

00:47:37.469 --> 00:47:39.469
terms of skull. That's why I said, when is he

00:47:39.469 --> 00:47:44.389
not in Hal? This is not going to be a mugging.

00:47:44.389 --> 00:47:47.489
This is a burglary. He's actually really fast

00:47:47.489 --> 00:47:49.369
as well, so I don't know how quick he can run.

00:47:50.050 --> 00:47:52.469
So what you're saying, Hal, is that he's a bit

00:47:52.469 --> 00:47:55.809
shorter, he's fast, and he has girth. Good to

00:47:55.809 --> 00:48:03.070
know. Next one from ArchangelQB8KM. For me, some

00:48:03.070 --> 00:48:05.449
dude dropped pizza on the battlefield. Nice.

00:48:05.849 --> 00:48:07.449
It's the best kind of battlefield when there's

00:48:07.449 --> 00:48:10.730
free food. Orc with a bow. Thank you for the

00:48:10.730 --> 00:48:13.710
$2. All praise the great unclean one of the Taco

00:48:13.710 --> 00:48:18.610
Bell. Nice. I've never been to a Taco Bell, and

00:48:18.610 --> 00:48:22.170
there's one right down the road from me. I pass

00:48:22.170 --> 00:48:25.900
it occasionally, and I go, well... It's expensive.

00:48:26.619 --> 00:48:31.079
It's not amazing, but it's okay, I guess. If

00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:32.920
you can think of a reason to go to a Taco Bell,

00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.599
go to McDonald's. Come on. Well, the thing is,

00:48:35.659 --> 00:48:37.059
I've watched that video recently of that guy

00:48:37.059 --> 00:48:38.539
who was like, I'm going to play Elden Ring, try

00:48:38.539 --> 00:48:40.940
and speedrun it. I'm going to take a bottle of

00:48:40.940 --> 00:48:43.739
laxatives and also eat four tacos from Taco Bell.

00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.000
And every time I die, I have to eat another one.

00:48:46.059 --> 00:48:51.300
I'm like, oh, that was a fun watch. The last

00:48:51.300 --> 00:48:56.170
one for now. Thank you very much for the $5.

00:48:56.349 --> 00:48:59.250
Mother, mother, I'll spit up on his bib again,

00:48:59.369 --> 00:49:02.730
mother. Shall he get the paddle, mummy? Please,

00:49:02.730 --> 00:49:08.030
oh please, smash his toys, mummy. Okay. What

00:49:08.030 --> 00:49:10.409
the hell did this man just say? Thank you, Paralyzed

00:49:10.409 --> 00:49:12.710
Tortoise. You are a regular here. So his bib?

00:49:13.849 --> 00:49:17.809
Yeah, your bib. You're spitting on your bib.

00:49:18.389 --> 00:49:22.219
Thank you for the $5. For the future generations

00:49:22.219 --> 00:49:29.559
of mine who see this, I am so sorry. I guess

00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.699
we should get back to images. I'm going to share

00:49:32.699 --> 00:49:35.420
the one that Colin supplied, which is this one.

00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.440
It's another green background. It's called a

00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:42.860
green text to Andy. I believe. Thanks, son. This

00:49:42.860 --> 00:49:48.230
one starts off already with an omen. Autistic

00:49:48.230 --> 00:49:50.869
guy plays Nurgle Marines. Not as a buzzword,

00:49:50.949 --> 00:49:53.269
he's genuinely autistic. Actually pretty good

00:49:53.269 --> 00:49:56.809
painter. Manager asks why he never uses GW paints

00:49:56.809 --> 00:49:59.510
and only brings in his own. Guy gets a bit upset,

00:49:59.670 --> 00:50:01.849
thinks manager's trying to push GW paints onto

00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:03.650
him. You know what, real. Paint what you want.

00:50:04.650 --> 00:50:07.190
Manager apologizes, was just trying to make conversations.

00:50:07.469 --> 00:50:10.349
He keeps going though. You guys can never make

00:50:10.349 --> 00:50:13.210
paints as well as I make them. Make your own

00:50:13.210 --> 00:50:16.400
paints. puts on a creepy voice yes papa nurkel

00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.119
blesses my face a couple of us laugh nervously

00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.340
manager looks at him deadly serious andrew what

00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:26.440
do you mean by that andrew grins and refuses

00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:29.840
to answer question or make eye contact just giggles

00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:34.440
manager is worried so now we are too andrew just

00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.280
tell us what do you mean only the best ingredients

00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.210
in nurkel's paints a bit of my food for you andrew

00:50:42.210 --> 00:50:45.429
did you mix into your paints and refuses to make

00:50:45.429 --> 00:50:49.809
eye contact manager calls andrew's parents parents

00:50:49.809 --> 00:50:52.710
come in and begin talking to andrew apparently

00:50:52.710 --> 00:50:56.050
yes he has been mixing in his own with his paints

00:50:56.050 --> 00:50:59.150
children have touched his models those models

00:50:59.150 --> 00:51:01.469
have touched game boards those game boards have

00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:04.949
food and drink on them the scale of this sets

00:51:04.949 --> 00:51:08.070
in manager calls his regional manager and shuts

00:51:08.070 --> 00:51:11.119
the store Does it open for three days. Come in

00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.920
three days later. Andrew is banned from the store.

00:51:14.099 --> 00:51:17.539
All the gaming tables have been replaced. Andrew

00:51:17.539 --> 00:51:21.300
never changed. You're the goat, Andrew. Andrew,

00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:26.059
change immediately. That is disgusting. That's

00:51:26.059 --> 00:51:29.239
the dark mirror of the guy who the nails were

00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:38.360
biting. A bit of my poo for you. Giggles and

00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.800
shits in paint. Oh my gosh. I should have tried

00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:43.539
to find green text. I can't believe I didn't

00:51:43.539 --> 00:51:46.619
think of that. Oh my gosh. If any of you have

00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:48.400
read the poop, do a little green text. Shout

00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:54.760
out to you. That's peak. How dare you make me

00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.519
think of that? There are some times where I'm

00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:00.659
like, I like being an old head because I don't

00:52:00.659 --> 00:52:03.960
know what you're talking about. And I feel safe.

00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:07.519
Got another one, a submission from Hal this time.

00:52:08.219 --> 00:52:12.039
Oh, yeah. I have a quick, we bring it quicker

00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.400
for these next two if we have a few Primark.

00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.519
And in the Primarch segment, which is, I found

00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.659
the story of Conrad far more compelling when

00:52:20.659 --> 00:52:22.260
he could see the future but could not change

00:52:22.260 --> 00:52:25.019
his fate. He is a mentally ill Primarch, which

00:52:25.019 --> 00:52:28.099
is in of itself compelling. He is driven to do

00:52:28.099 --> 00:52:30.659
this by both his upbringing, but he has always

00:52:30.659 --> 00:52:33.820
known that all would come to ruin and death.

00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.300
The reader knows that his visions are where the

00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:38.980
story will go. All other characters in the story

00:52:38.980 --> 00:52:42.000
think Conrad is mad, but all the readers know

00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.760
Conrad is right. To have him struggle to change

00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:48.239
throughout Nostromo and the Great Crusade, to

00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.340
overcome his fate and fail is compelling. That

00:52:51.340 --> 00:52:53.760
he cannot escape the whirlpool of madness, but

00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.699
ultimately allows himself to be consumed. He

00:52:56.699 --> 00:53:00.679
is failed by everyone, by his father, brothers,

00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.500
then sons. His story is juxtaposed by Sanguinius,

00:53:04.500 --> 00:53:06.840
the only other Primarch with full precognition.

00:53:06.980 --> 00:53:10.119
The contrast between them, angel and demon, light

00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:12.610
and dark, is also compelling. that they have

00:53:12.610 --> 00:53:15.610
the same gift to see fate, but different stories

00:53:15.610 --> 00:53:19.190
that end in death is also potentially great storytelling.

00:53:20.070 --> 00:53:22.909
The idea that any time he could have simply made

00:53:22.909 --> 00:53:25.610
better decisions to turn his fate from a tragedy

00:53:25.610 --> 00:53:32.789
to something pathetic, he is mentally ill, just

00:53:32.789 --> 00:53:35.219
mentally weak. The Black Library cannot help

00:53:35.219 --> 00:53:37.739
themselves but make the traitor Primarchs less

00:53:37.739 --> 00:53:40.539
interesting to make loyalist Primarchs more heroic.

00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.179
They had to give Sanguinius another victory and

00:53:44.179 --> 00:53:47.099
in doing so, Comrade Elos. The traitor Primarchs

00:53:47.099 --> 00:53:49.380
need to be the hero of their own story rather

00:53:49.380 --> 00:53:52.139
than the foil for the loyalists. Pretty true.

00:53:52.300 --> 00:53:55.800
Pretty real. I think he... Isn't that his madness?

00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.059
His madness is that he lets himself die in the

00:53:59.059 --> 00:54:01.239
end because he needs to be the hero of his own

00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:03.969
story. Otherwise, it's all for nothing. right

00:54:03.969 --> 00:54:06.090
like he lets the assassin kill him because then

00:54:06.090 --> 00:54:08.949
he basically proves that he had no choice because

00:54:08.949 --> 00:54:11.550
then i think the idea is that he does have a

00:54:11.550 --> 00:54:13.429
choice and this guy doesn't like that i think

00:54:13.429 --> 00:54:18.849
i think really if we want to be like meta about

00:54:18.849 --> 00:54:23.170
this i think the thing about conrad's death is

00:54:23.170 --> 00:54:25.230
that he just really wanted to mess with people

00:54:25.230 --> 00:54:27.389
who are into power scaling and settings was like

00:54:27.389 --> 00:54:29.590
oh space marine can't kill the prime was like

00:54:29.590 --> 00:54:32.320
hey guess what I got killed by an assassin. You

00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:36.320
know what else? It was a girl. And then everyone's

00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.039
like, oh no! He's a Primo! That doesn't make

00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.880
sense! And he just did that to mess with people.

00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:48.260
And I think that's why it's the best. Do you

00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:51.179
guys think that the Traitor Primarchs are just,

00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.039
they are kind of made more pathetic to make the

00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:57.340
good guys, you know, the loyalist ones seem better?

00:54:57.929 --> 00:55:01.889
Do you feel that a little bit? I hate that. To

00:55:01.889 --> 00:55:06.269
be honest, they're pretty lame. Not with that.

00:55:07.969 --> 00:55:12.230
Where's the banner? I think Perturabo escapes

00:55:12.230 --> 00:55:16.269
that luckily, but Fulgrim, I'm doing Statenite

00:55:16.269 --> 00:55:20.849
at the moment. Fulgrim in Statenite is just an

00:55:20.849 --> 00:55:26.699
idiot. Poor Fulgrim. Maybe, yeah. I suppose the

00:55:26.699 --> 00:55:28.559
only thing is, though, that some of the loyalist

00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.840
Primarchs also look immature and stupid often.

00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:35.619
So, I mean, all of the Primarchs have moments

00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:39.719
of, like, a lack of good judgment. Just think

00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.679
of the lion backhanding poor Nemiel and stuff

00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:44.420
like that. They also have moments where they

00:55:44.420 --> 00:55:47.099
don't look in the best light. But I guess if

00:55:47.099 --> 00:55:50.860
you don't make the Primarchs cartoonishly evil...

00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.420
that's difficult to write and you gotta sell

00:55:53.420 --> 00:55:55.000
minis i don't know oh you have to write good

00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.699
books oh we can't do that around here we can't

00:55:57.699 --> 00:55:59.980
do that around here i guess the weird part is

00:55:59.980 --> 00:56:02.579
like if it was to be like from the view of like

00:56:02.579 --> 00:56:05.320
consistent suppose like fate is not able to be

00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:09.500
changed that's a weird thing to have in warhammer

00:56:09.500 --> 00:56:11.739
because that's not how the universe operates

00:56:11.739 --> 00:56:14.059
that's objectively untrue with several different

00:56:14.059 --> 00:56:17.119
factions yeah really changing fate yeah like

00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.320
the eldar supposedly like they choose fates so

00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.800
it doesn't and also the idea of like yeah that's

00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.380
like the whole concept of like someone is born

00:56:24.380 --> 00:56:27.159
evil then like and then i don't know if that's

00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.619
a thing they want to state like conrad was born

00:56:30.619 --> 00:56:34.920
to be like you know skin wearing therapist was

00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.960
born pretty evil he's he never was a good boy

00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.059
i don't know all the primers are lame to be honest

00:56:43.059 --> 00:56:47.110
they they kind of all just lame which it kind

00:56:47.110 --> 00:56:50.829
of like it sucks but they were all wrong entirely

00:56:50.829 --> 00:56:53.909
like horace was like kind of right for a second

00:56:53.909 --> 00:56:56.730
but but the further you go into the horse heresy

00:56:56.730 --> 00:56:59.510
it's the more like prevalent it gets that these

00:56:59.510 --> 00:57:03.030
guys are just completely wrong and like the whole

00:57:03.030 --> 00:57:05.610
story is just kind of stupid and the whole crux

00:57:05.610 --> 00:57:07.570
of the horse heresy is that the emperor didn't

00:57:07.570 --> 00:57:09.949
want to tell them like one thing i was kind of

00:57:09.949 --> 00:57:13.130
silly when you boil it down to its basic ingredients

00:57:14.429 --> 00:57:16.090
I don't think they do a good job of like the

00:57:16.090 --> 00:57:18.090
self -fulfilling prophecy of like, if you tell

00:57:18.090 --> 00:57:20.429
them they'll, they'll fall to chaos. But if you

00:57:20.429 --> 00:57:22.630
don't tell them, they'll probably fall to chaos

00:57:22.630 --> 00:57:25.489
anyway. I think that they need to do a better

00:57:25.489 --> 00:57:28.289
job of like, Oh, here's justification for why

00:57:28.289 --> 00:57:30.750
he doesn't tell them. And they try it occasionally,

00:57:30.889 --> 00:57:33.849
but they try to. Hey guys, I'm making this web

00:57:33.849 --> 00:57:35.949
way project and I'm going to save humanity. I'll

00:57:35.949 --> 00:57:39.469
see you in 20 years. Okay. Dad, I have slightly

00:57:39.469 --> 00:57:42.809
credits, but then you have like the whole, like,

00:57:42.849 --> 00:57:46.179
Hey Magnus, please. stop going into the warp

00:57:46.179 --> 00:57:50.019
okay dad what did i just say it's like yeah even

00:57:50.019 --> 00:57:53.119
if you tell him magnus is a complete fool they

00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.360
make magnus into a complete and utter goofball

00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:59.500
that's for sure were you saying colin at least

00:57:59.500 --> 00:58:01.519
with magnus specifically i've got a little bit

00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:03.440
come around and i'm not telling him not telling

00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.079
magnus if only because hey dad what are you doing

00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:07.900
oh i'm working on the thing i'm gonna plug you

00:58:07.900 --> 00:58:12.769
into like a battery that one I kind of get that

00:58:12.769 --> 00:58:15.969
one a little bit more specific now. In the, I

00:58:15.969 --> 00:58:18.570
think, Siege of Terror, they mentioned he could

00:58:18.570 --> 00:58:21.210
leave the throne if he was going to use it. It

00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:24.230
sounds like it's nice. It's like, what if you're

00:58:24.230 --> 00:58:27.570
hooked up to the best gaming chair in the world?

00:58:27.710 --> 00:58:31.050
You can just roam around and look at stuff. It's

00:58:31.050 --> 00:58:35.170
cool. Jellyfish in the warp. They should have

00:58:35.170 --> 00:58:38.309
stuck with their guns. They just have the Emperor

00:58:38.309 --> 00:58:41.130
say, I just didn't trust them. They're too young.

00:58:41.610 --> 00:58:43.289
Just have it like that because then it makes

00:58:43.289 --> 00:58:46.530
sense. It's the... Malkador, I think, says at

00:58:46.530 --> 00:58:49.110
one point, we didn't tell them because knowing

00:58:49.110 --> 00:58:54.769
about it for humans, it makes people... They

00:58:54.769 --> 00:58:57.289
said they didn't tell Dawn about it early in

00:58:57.289 --> 00:58:59.230
his life because if he knew about it, he would

00:58:59.230 --> 00:59:01.869
try to understand it to defeat it and then that

00:59:01.869 --> 00:59:03.889
would end up corrupting him when he wasn't ready.

00:59:04.429 --> 00:59:07.650
So it's like... I think just stick with the whole

00:59:07.650 --> 00:59:09.469
the Emperor doesn't trust anybody but Malkador.

00:59:09.869 --> 00:59:11.590
and then that's how that's the whole point like

00:59:11.590 --> 00:59:13.489
it failed because he didn't trust telling you

00:59:13.489 --> 00:59:16.050
master mankind it's too much emperor lore it's

00:59:16.050 --> 00:59:17.650
too much emperor lore we didn't need all this

00:59:17.650 --> 00:59:22.050
emperor lore i do mysterious i hate this is the

00:59:22.050 --> 00:59:24.449
only thing i have a gr the book has amazing scenes

00:59:24.449 --> 00:59:27.909
in that book but my gripe with it is how they

00:59:27.909 --> 00:59:30.070
explain that the emperor's obviously really powerful

00:59:30.070 --> 00:59:33.170
and he can see the future they explain that his

00:59:33.170 --> 00:59:37.690
future site is so good that it's actually worse

00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:41.039
because he can see like basically he can see

00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.659
almost every decision ever rather than like one

00:59:43.659 --> 00:59:45.099
vision of the future he can see all the outs

00:59:45.099 --> 00:59:48.440
like splaying futures and therefore he's almost

00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:50.739
like powerless to change every single like minute

00:59:50.739 --> 00:59:53.619
human decision that makes a future and it's just

00:59:53.619 --> 00:59:54.980
like that's too much because then that's basically

00:59:54.980 --> 00:59:57.579
a debuff yeah so he basically doesn't have future

00:59:57.579 --> 01:00:01.840
sight i i yeah i don't know so doesn't he also

01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.079
in some book he's like you can't be all seeing

01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.159
and all powerful at the same time you gotta pick

01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:09.019
one well you have to choose one road and stick

01:00:09.019 --> 01:00:10.579
to it because it's going to change no matter

01:00:10.579 --> 01:00:14.800
what you try yeah maybe it's too big brain for

01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:19.039
me or it's just in some way just kind of is like

01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.079
huh you know makes everyone yeah if the horse

01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.460
heresy was 10 bucks and most of it was left to

01:00:24.460 --> 01:00:28.570
mystery i think it'd be great well isn't there

01:00:28.570 --> 01:00:30.909
that scene where he's talking to um rar and dimmy

01:00:30.909 --> 01:00:32.849
and he's all like hey go over there and climb

01:00:32.849 --> 01:00:35.110
that thing and he's like oh and then his foot

01:00:35.110 --> 01:00:38.329
slips and it crumbles and he's like why did you

01:00:38.329 --> 01:00:40.289
why did you slip he's like it looked like it

01:00:40.289 --> 01:00:42.050
was secure it's like yeah well it looks like

01:00:42.050 --> 01:00:43.710
it's secure but when you step on it you fall

01:00:43.710 --> 01:00:46.469
anyway and it's like you can see stuff but that

01:00:46.469 --> 01:00:48.989
doesn't necessarily mean that it's like the right

01:00:48.989 --> 01:00:51.909
decision or it's like again it's like okay kind

01:00:51.909 --> 01:00:54.989
of kind of see what i mean but also it's like

01:00:56.090 --> 01:00:58.769
Warhammer should just be rebranded as Daddy Issues

01:00:58.769 --> 01:01:03.789
40 ,000. And then that would be a very 30 ,000.

01:01:06.750 --> 01:01:08.829
It's like, oh, it's all about Dad. I'm a space

01:01:08.829 --> 01:01:11.829
Marine. Dad wrote this book, isn't it? Oh, Daddy.

01:01:13.690 --> 01:01:17.449
We had one more Primark one to wrap up the Primark

01:01:17.449 --> 01:01:20.650
section, which is it's shorter, but it's a bit

01:01:20.650 --> 01:01:23.070
more of an interesting take rather than other

01:01:23.070 --> 01:01:27.079
things. uh is uh from the same thread as the

01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.239
previous primark ones which is uh my one nitpick

01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.360
about the primark law applies to all of them

01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.079
i would make uh make it so that they weren't

01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.739
all supersized genetically enhanced humans right

01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:40.239
from the start it makes no sense that they managed

01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:42.880
to mix with whatever society they landed on and

01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.420
they're all five meters tall like super freaks

01:01:45.420 --> 01:01:48.880
or five meters taller i assume super freaks i

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.179
would make it so they were not unlike extremely

01:01:51.179 --> 01:01:53.980
exceptional humans but normal humans nonetheless

01:01:53.980 --> 01:01:56.519
kind of like what the numenoreans were to the

01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.150
people of middle earth And only after meeting

01:01:59.150 --> 01:02:00.889
the emperor, they would have unlocked their whole

01:02:00.889 --> 01:02:03.829
genetic potential. I think that attributes to

01:02:03.829 --> 01:02:06.230
Horus, doesn't it? It's really weird. This serves

01:02:06.230 --> 01:02:09.309
two purposes. One, making them pass as normal

01:02:09.309 --> 01:02:13.090
people, pass normal people more believable and

01:02:13.090 --> 01:02:15.670
make their eventual conquest of their respective

01:02:15.670 --> 01:02:19.070
worlds much more admirable. Brackets, I mean,

01:02:19.130 --> 01:02:21.949
of course, they're super strong, super smart,

01:02:22.030 --> 01:02:24.989
giant conquerors, conquering, conquered their

01:02:24.989 --> 01:02:28.960
puny worlds. come on, end brackets, and two,

01:02:29.219 --> 01:02:31.659
would make their bond with the Emperor that more

01:02:31.659 --> 01:02:34.260
meaningful. There would be no denying that Big

01:02:34.260 --> 01:02:37.099
E is their father after almost a rebirth thanks

01:02:37.099 --> 01:02:41.000
to him. That would be cool. I like that. I do

01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:46.039
like it, but I think I mean, that like them being

01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:49.539
not integrating is a plot point for at least

01:02:49.539 --> 01:02:52.320
a few of them. Like Fulgrim's thing was, you

01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.239
know, he married a bunch and it made him grow

01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:57.599
detached right because like i outlived every

01:02:57.599 --> 01:02:59.739
single one he did he did not they were political

01:02:59.739 --> 01:03:03.059
marriages he did not absolutely mulch these women

01:03:03.059 --> 01:03:06.119
into paste i know that but it is also it's like

01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.860
i remember reading it's like you know he lost

01:03:08.860 --> 01:03:11.900
he also he shaped his entire planet's culture

01:03:11.900 --> 01:03:14.599
at the same time like some of them like i do

01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:16.420
agree like some of them definitely fit in a bit

01:03:16.420 --> 01:03:20.159
too well but others it's like they didn't fit

01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:24.550
in well having the size of anastasis so like

01:03:24.550 --> 01:03:28.690
they're almost like you can't be dudes yeah not

01:03:28.690 --> 01:03:33.449
like yeah sort of thing like that they can just

01:03:33.449 --> 01:03:37.690
pass it's like normal guys almost yeah and as

01:03:37.690 --> 01:03:39.449
much as magnus would be like i can make myself

01:03:39.449 --> 01:03:41.030
appear big we're all small it's like you are

01:03:41.030 --> 01:03:44.369
bright red you're not you're not yeah they're

01:03:44.369 --> 01:03:46.489
gonna spot you a mile off he's a peacock he doesn't

01:03:46.489 --> 01:03:48.969
want to blend in does he no but also it's like

01:03:48.969 --> 01:03:51.530
that They were talking about the connection with

01:03:51.530 --> 01:03:53.590
the Emperor. I know in the Jagatai book, it says

01:03:53.590 --> 01:03:56.469
about how when they also are around each other,

01:03:56.530 --> 01:04:01.250
their best characteristics amplify when they're

01:04:01.250 --> 01:04:03.010
in the presence of each other. So it's all like,

01:04:03.130 --> 01:04:05.369
oh, Primark's impressive on its own. But when

01:04:05.369 --> 01:04:07.250
there's more of them, they're even more impressive.

01:04:07.750 --> 01:04:11.070
And so I assume there is a similar effect with

01:04:11.070 --> 01:04:12.610
the Emperor. So when they're with the Emperor,

01:04:12.750 --> 01:04:18.210
they're even more supercharged. That's not stated

01:04:18.210 --> 01:04:20.590
specifically. I don't know. A storyline where

01:04:20.590 --> 01:04:22.349
two of them landed on the same planet would have

01:04:22.349 --> 01:04:25.750
been cool. And they fight each other. I like

01:04:25.750 --> 01:04:28.550
that. I like that. And then the Emperor shows

01:04:28.550 --> 01:04:30.630
up and splits them apart and is like, you guys

01:04:30.630 --> 01:04:33.150
are actually brothers. You know what? That's

01:04:33.150 --> 01:04:37.210
what happened to the lost Primarchs. Maybe they

01:04:37.210 --> 01:04:40.409
killed each other. Yeah. That would be cool.

01:04:41.630 --> 01:04:44.070
That would be interesting. Your second story,

01:04:44.190 --> 01:04:48.349
Eli. And then we've got one more from Hal. That's

01:04:48.349 --> 01:04:53.309
a lot of text. All right. There is one guy that

01:04:53.309 --> 01:04:55.949
sticks out on all my years of playing. I do wonder

01:04:55.949 --> 01:04:57.969
what he would be up to right now as he would

01:04:57.969 --> 01:04:59.889
currently be in his mid thirties now. So this

01:04:59.889 --> 01:05:03.809
would have been circa third and 40K. There was

01:05:03.809 --> 01:05:05.809
this guy called Steve. I went to school with

01:05:05.809 --> 01:05:08.610
Steve. He was two years below me and was in like

01:05:08.610 --> 01:05:12.000
a fair few of the support classes. So you get

01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.320
the picture. Dude looked a bit like Bobby Hill.

01:05:14.539 --> 01:05:16.840
I don't want to label anyone. Speed might have

01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:22.460
been on Spectrum. Teenagers egging him on didn't

01:05:22.460 --> 01:05:25.039
help. Steve had a habit of blowing his top in

01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:27.679
the local GW and subsequently getting banned.

01:05:27.980 --> 01:05:31.280
However, our local GW was also like a training

01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:33.800
facility for the region. So at a fairly high

01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.320
staff turnover. So what Steve would do was pass

01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:39.760
the store, see if there was a staffer he'd never

01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:44.219
seen before. And the GW, or in the GW, oh, I'm

01:05:44.219 --> 01:05:47.039
sorry, and the GW guy would do his normal spiel

01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.000
and Steve would be invited to games night until

01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.500
the inevitable happened yet again. Steve played

01:05:51.500 --> 01:05:54.860
Eldar and was a sore loser. Three such incidents

01:05:54.860 --> 01:05:57.599
stick out in my mind of him blowing his top in

01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.619
this spectacular fashion. The first was when

01:06:00.619 --> 01:06:03.219
a friend of mine had to play him. A friend is

01:06:03.219 --> 01:06:06.119
playing Imperial Fist and shoots a melt gun at

01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.460
his avatar. This is third edition, so the avatar

01:06:08.460 --> 01:06:11.099
could get wounded by Meltas, I guess. It is only

01:06:11.099 --> 01:06:13.460
just in range of 12 inches, so the following

01:06:13.460 --> 01:06:15.380
turn, Steve has to walk through difficult terrain

01:06:15.380 --> 01:06:18.559
with the avatar. Difficult terrain, you roll

01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:21.380
2d6 to the highest. Steve managed to roll a total

01:06:21.380 --> 01:06:24.539
of 11 inches on both of his move through terrain

01:06:24.539 --> 01:06:27.800
and charge move, but was somehow magically in

01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.619
assault range. Opponent queries this, to which

01:06:30.619 --> 01:06:33.360
Steve bellows, I moved exactly 6 inches and exactly

01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:37.039
5 inches. He just let him have it in the end.

01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:40.480
Another such time was when I'd play him. Losing

01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:42.780
my spot. Holy cow. He claimed his War Walkers

01:06:42.780 --> 01:06:46.099
were behind some terrain. Could see some of my

01:06:46.099 --> 01:06:49.280
guys as he tilted them up to the waist. Crap

01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:54.199
GW own brand super glue strikes again. I dispute

01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:56.320
it and we go back and forth. GW staffer gets

01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:58.619
involved and says to him to go behind the building

01:06:58.619 --> 01:07:02.400
across the road and look up. If he can see us

01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:04.719
in the store when doing that, he can shoot at

01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:07.460
what he wants to shoot at. This UW store I'll

01:07:07.460 --> 01:07:10.659
know was full of wannabe cool Gen Xers in both

01:07:10.659 --> 01:07:13.960
staff and customer base. A fact I only realized

01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:17.139
myself later on how much dicks some of them were

01:07:17.139 --> 01:07:19.320
to people. I only read like half of this, by

01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:20.280
the way. I didn't want to read the whole thing.

01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:25.780
Steve relents only into the case. Then he goes

01:07:25.780 --> 01:07:28.159
one step further. He grabs a set of clippers

01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:30.880
and starts cutting apart the War Walkers as he

01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:34.239
is chucking the bits into the case that got him

01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:38.800
banned. uh for a while the last one was another

01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:42.219
game i was spectating this one and his falcon

01:07:42.219 --> 01:07:44.960
got shot now his falcon had a hollow field the

01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:46.760
bane of every player's existence with a third

01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:49.500
and eldar you could declare exterminatus on our

01:07:49.500 --> 01:07:51.219
planet and that falcon would still be hovering

01:07:51.219 --> 01:07:54.500
there if it had a hollow field for those that

01:07:54.500 --> 01:07:56.159
don't know vehicles had a vehicle damage table

01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:58.000
in the back of the day a penetrating hit it was

01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.300
destroyed on four plus with other results like

01:08:00.300 --> 01:08:04.429
destroyed et cetera uh good addition better times

01:08:04.429 --> 01:08:06.730
skimmers that moved a certain distance could

01:08:06.730 --> 01:08:09.710
only be glanced and glancing hit only resulted

01:08:09.710 --> 01:08:13.250
in a destroyed result on a six skimmers were

01:08:13.250 --> 01:08:16.149
also destroyed on an immobilized result they're

01:08:16.149 --> 01:08:18.649
moving fast so if you equipped a falcon with

01:08:18.649 --> 01:08:20.630
a hollow field you would roll 2d6 and pick the

01:08:20.630 --> 01:08:23.170
lowest when consulting the damage table making

01:08:23.170 --> 01:08:26.289
them six times as hard to kill as any other skimmer

01:08:26.289 --> 01:08:28.750
so his opponent rolls to damage and gets like

01:08:28.750 --> 01:08:31.829
a one and let's say a five The lower number is

01:08:31.829 --> 01:08:34.550
what is important here. That gave it crew shaken,

01:08:34.729 --> 01:08:36.609
which disallowed it from shooting in the following

01:08:36.609 --> 01:08:39.470
turn. So we get to Steve's turn. His opponent

01:08:39.470 --> 01:08:41.829
reminds him of this fact when he tries to shoot

01:08:41.829 --> 01:08:46.710
at it in the shooting phase, to which Steve says,

01:08:46.829 --> 01:08:50.909
no, it has may not move. Now they go back and

01:08:50.909 --> 01:08:52.930
forth over this. There's no such thing as may

01:08:52.930 --> 01:08:56.130
not move next turn results on said damage table.

01:08:56.910 --> 01:08:58.770
There was may not move or shoot, but may not

01:08:58.770 --> 01:09:01.170
shoot was the lowest one. It still carries on

01:09:01.170 --> 01:09:03.710
with Steve starting to shout, no, it says may

01:09:03.710 --> 01:09:07.189
not move. His opponent is kind of winding him

01:09:07.189 --> 01:09:10.550
up here. Remember 20 odd years ago. And he gives

01:09:10.550 --> 01:09:14.069
one final, no, it says may not move. Punctuated

01:09:14.069 --> 01:09:16.810
by slamming his fist down on the table, sending

01:09:16.810 --> 01:09:20.270
models flying, the GW staffer who had been eating

01:09:20.270 --> 01:09:22.529
his lunch and watching this at a distance from

01:09:22.529 --> 01:09:25.439
the staff room, leaning his head around. from

01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:27.800
the door and said, Steve, you're a pan. I can

01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:30.439
think of many others over the years, like Dogshit

01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:34.380
Dave and Weirdy Beardy, but Steve was the guy

01:09:34.380 --> 01:09:38.100
who stuck in my mind all that time. Dogshit Dave.

01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:43.579
Dogshit Dave kind of goes hard. Where's DSD,

01:09:43.619 --> 01:09:46.920
bro? Not enough freaks in 40k nowadays, I'm telling

01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:50.100
you. Not enough freaks. What do you think makes

01:09:50.100 --> 01:09:55.319
the worst opponent as a 40k table? or does anyone

01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:58.159
can you say people get mad like people get genuinely

01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.800
angry i guess i don't know i have my own story

01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.659
regarding that but we had one more text thing

01:10:04.659 --> 01:10:06.699
to read read didn't we you can go you're wrong

01:10:06.699 --> 01:10:09.140
my one's a bit of a finisher i don't have any

01:10:09.140 --> 01:10:11.039
text for this it's just in my brain and i've

01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:14.260
said it before but to all the people who want

01:10:14.260 --> 01:10:18.899
to know eli lore uh elo i got i got two stories

01:10:18.899 --> 01:10:21.319
actually one one is like a stupid One when I

01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:23.899
was just a dumb little kid. Me and Logan were

01:10:23.899 --> 01:10:26.899
playing. And he said, I end my turn. And then

01:10:26.899 --> 01:10:28.779
I started doing my stuff. And then Logan's like,

01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:30.619
oh, I forgot to do this. I want to do it. And

01:10:30.619 --> 01:10:32.359
I said, no, you ended your turn. You can't do

01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:34.579
that. And we argued for like 30 minutes about

01:10:34.579 --> 01:10:37.800
it. I was just being a stupid kid. But in 8th

01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:41.899
edition, there was a psychic power called warp

01:10:41.899 --> 01:10:44.520
time that lets you move again in the psychic

01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:47.939
phase. So Magnus could move twice. And Magnus

01:10:47.939 --> 01:10:50.939
flew. So Magnus can move like 40 inches. And

01:10:50.939 --> 01:10:52.899
I was at a doubles tournament. Me and my friend

01:10:52.899 --> 01:10:55.819
James had brought Magnus and Mortarion, Death

01:10:55.819 --> 01:10:58.460
Guard and Thousand Suns. And it was gimmicky

01:10:58.460 --> 01:11:00.819
missions, like fun stuff. The first mission was

01:11:00.819 --> 01:11:05.180
VIP. So the whole mission was just kill the enemy

01:11:05.180 --> 01:11:09.800
VIP. The other two guys were playing Eldar and

01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:13.159
Dark Eldar, I think, at least Eldar. And their

01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.020
VIP was a Farseer, and they put it in the back

01:11:15.020 --> 01:11:18.859
corner on a set of runes. and when we were setting

01:11:18.859 --> 01:11:20.539
up i said are you sure you want to put it there

01:11:20.539 --> 01:11:25.619
and they said yes we started the game james start

01:11:25.619 --> 01:11:27.520
starts moving his stuff and i'm like and i just

01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:29.359
like said like don't even bother like we don't

01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:31.699
like don't even bother doing any of that i move

01:11:31.699 --> 01:11:35.060
magnus i cast warp time i move him again so he

01:11:35.060 --> 01:11:37.439
moves across the board i cast smite which turns

01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:39.260
into a like a bigger version of smite because

01:11:39.260 --> 01:11:42.960
it's magnus and i kill the parcier that was vip

01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:49.569
in five minutes and the guy One of the guys on

01:11:49.569 --> 01:11:50.710
the other side, because his devil doesn't remember,

01:11:50.810 --> 01:11:53.489
says, you are a cunt and they never play Warhammer

01:11:53.489 --> 01:12:01.850
ever again. Damn. Yeah. And that night we went

01:12:01.850 --> 01:12:05.829
to Star Wars with his teammate. Nice. Shout out

01:12:05.829 --> 01:12:09.989
that guy. I made someone quit Warhammer, I guess.

01:12:10.949 --> 01:12:16.350
Well, I used to play Xbox 360 with the crappy

01:12:16.350 --> 01:12:19.649
microphone. I used to get the messages after

01:12:19.649 --> 01:12:23.710
a game just like, expletive, expletive, expletive,

01:12:23.729 --> 01:12:27.109
slur, slur, slur, slur, slur, slur, slur, dick.

01:12:27.409 --> 01:12:30.909
Oh, okay. Thanks. Glad you're enjoying the game.

01:12:31.010 --> 01:12:34.930
I needed you to know. This guy, mind you, was

01:12:34.930 --> 01:12:38.270
actually a really nice guy in general. But when

01:12:38.270 --> 01:12:40.630
he started playing the game, he was like a huge

01:12:40.630 --> 01:12:43.090
jerk and he got so angry all the time. Yeah.

01:12:45.449 --> 01:12:50.329
Damn. i'm assuming there wasn't like prizes to

01:12:50.329 --> 01:12:52.390
be won at these tournaments or games there is

01:12:52.390 --> 01:12:55.949
not a big prize like maybe like like a like a

01:12:55.949 --> 01:12:58.609
not enough to be flipping like a 200 warhammer

01:12:58.609 --> 01:13:02.989
box at most like yeah no it's nice but not enough

01:13:02.989 --> 01:13:07.050
to be for eight shit it wasn't the deed for a

01:13:07.050 --> 01:13:09.949
house or anything like that yeah oh a couple

01:13:09.949 --> 01:13:12.470
of quid i've only really i've only had like one

01:13:12.470 --> 01:13:17.050
game of like maybe a few years ago that i thought

01:13:17.050 --> 01:13:20.960
was like bad because the person i was playing

01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.939
did get like because they were like ruining me

01:13:25.939 --> 01:13:29.420
and then in the beginning and then i just had

01:13:29.420 --> 01:13:33.880
like an amazing go turn and because they were

01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:36.859
no longer winning they were incredibly upset

01:13:36.859 --> 01:13:39.359
and they were sulking for the rest of the game

01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:42.439
and i remember like i think it's like uh i just

01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:44.420
remember like we it was a point where like it

01:13:44.420 --> 01:13:46.640
wasn't fun and friendly more and there was no

01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:48.600
like chatter and it was just like we just i was

01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:49.899
just rolling the dice because i was trying to

01:13:49.899 --> 01:13:52.659
avoid this guy blowing his top and i was like

01:13:52.659 --> 01:13:54.939
you i literally was like later on i was like

01:13:54.939 --> 01:13:57.840
you you ruined my game dude you'd like you were

01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:02.899
such a yeah it really sucks playing against soldiers

01:14:02.899 --> 01:14:05.180
and they say i was fine i was like okay it's

01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:10.779
all right my other friend uh we played a Actually,

01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:13.979
I got two more making people quit stories, not

01:14:13.979 --> 01:14:17.159
for myself, but my friend Brayden, who I guess,

01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:21.359
doxing Brayden once again. I got to call this,

01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.420
I had to check. At a Lord of the Rings tournament

01:14:23.420 --> 01:14:26.279
that we went to, he played against a guy, this

01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:29.840
guy had two ballistas, it doesn't matter, I don't

01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:32.060
know if you guys know what that is. He had two

01:14:32.060 --> 01:14:33.880
ballistas for Gondor that are generally okay,

01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:37.479
but he messed up and Brayden destroyed him. And

01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:39.060
the guy didn't talk the entire game and then

01:14:39.060 --> 01:14:41.699
left the tournament after that game. And then

01:14:41.699 --> 01:14:45.399
the last event that we played at, my friend,

01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:48.560
I won't say his name. I'll stop doxing my friend.

01:14:48.939 --> 01:14:51.020
He brought a Tom Bombadil list. You can make

01:14:51.020 --> 01:14:53.000
it nighttime. And when it's nighttime, you can

01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.199
only shoot 12 inches away. And he's playing this

01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.640
other guy who brought us Gilead. So we had Minas

01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.399
Tirith Warriors and then Rangers behind him.

01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:03.079
My friend moves his like four elf Rangers up

01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.159
and is shooting the guy's front line. and because

01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:09.140
and he's just out of 12 inches or he's just within

01:15:09.140 --> 01:15:10.920
12 inches so the rangers in the back can't shoot

01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:14.420
at him the guy doesn't move his forces so a turn

01:15:14.420 --> 01:15:16.800
goes by and ilia oh i said the name sorry spoilers

01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.460
sorry bro it doesn't it doesn't matter it doesn't

01:15:19.460 --> 01:15:23.439
matter uh he shoots this guy's army again kill

01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:26.960
some guys and then the guy doesn't move and then

01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.560
after the third turn the guy's like if it's just

01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.939
gonna go on like this we just don't have to play

01:15:31.939 --> 01:15:34.590
and then quit and left the event and didn't even

01:15:34.590 --> 01:15:40.029
like stick around for the end yeah people get

01:15:40.029 --> 01:15:45.029
so salty all i had to do was move forwards it's

01:15:45.029 --> 01:15:48.750
like that's all like all you had to do yeah god

01:15:48.750 --> 01:15:53.289
i have a guy's name was hal no i didn't know

01:15:53.289 --> 01:15:55.229
i'm not i would like to play middle earth at

01:15:55.229 --> 01:15:59.050
some point though i saw the uh i debated buying

01:15:59.050 --> 01:16:02.619
some of the rune models and then like if i want

01:16:02.619 --> 01:16:04.680
to look at prox of them it's something in 40k

01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:07.439
but then play i have no one to play middle earth

01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:10.579
with so you know sad i just want to find a box

01:16:10.579 --> 01:16:16.779
of the nazgul man yeah is that your um like holy

01:16:16.779 --> 01:16:19.619
grail find is that or is there like a yeah that's

01:16:19.619 --> 01:16:23.819
that'd be it nice uh i think we do have a final

01:16:24.430 --> 01:16:27.170
offering we do i've had to blur this is one with

01:16:27.170 --> 01:16:29.670
the blurs and i've had to blur out a few of the

01:16:29.670 --> 01:16:34.689
words on this one because yes uh spicy yes uh

01:16:34.689 --> 01:16:37.489
you will understand why but we will not be saying

01:16:37.489 --> 01:16:40.090
the spicy ones on youtube this is from the same

01:16:40.090 --> 01:16:42.850
thread earlier which was the venting about hobby

01:16:42.850 --> 01:16:47.090
nightmares uh by deleted i was into playing weekly

01:16:47.090 --> 01:16:49.189
casual games at my local hobby store with the

01:16:49.189 --> 01:16:51.630
usual crowd of guys who would show up every week

01:16:51.630 --> 01:16:54.310
this was back in eighth Swirl people with a good

01:16:54.310 --> 01:16:57.810
mix of playful competitiveness and fun creativity.

01:16:58.409 --> 01:17:01.130
I was looking for a matchup at a free table when

01:17:01.130 --> 01:17:04.149
a new face found me. It was a kid and his dad

01:17:04.149 --> 01:17:06.869
who both played. This is already where the warning

01:17:06.869 --> 01:17:10.069
bells go for me. The kid wanted to run his space

01:17:10.069 --> 01:17:13.109
walls against my Necrons. We found our table

01:17:13.109 --> 01:17:15.630
and played our game. All throughout, this kid

01:17:15.630 --> 01:17:18.909
was bothersome to play with. He was beating the

01:17:18.909 --> 01:17:21.470
tar out of me, but still complaining and checking

01:17:21.470 --> 01:17:24.010
rules every time I managed to kill a few models.

01:17:24.550 --> 01:17:27.649
At the same time, his dad spent most of the game

01:17:27.649 --> 01:17:30.829
bragging about his guard army that he didn't

01:17:30.829 --> 01:17:34.170
bring. These were my first hints. Towards the

01:17:34.170 --> 01:17:36.949
end of the game, we had a small crowd as we were

01:17:36.949 --> 01:17:39.630
the last game going on for the night. Dad invited

01:17:39.630 --> 01:17:42.630
everyone to play at his house next week. A few

01:17:42.630 --> 01:17:44.649
of us took him up on it because we wanted to

01:17:44.649 --> 01:17:48.829
see his brag -worthy guard army. Skip ahead and

01:17:48.829 --> 01:17:51.050
me and two other guys from the store are pulling

01:17:51.050 --> 01:17:53.789
up to his place. He lets us in and brought us

01:17:53.789 --> 01:17:56.930
down to the basement where he has set up a table.

01:17:57.109 --> 01:17:59.970
And admittedly, a very impressive guard army

01:17:59.970 --> 01:18:05.569
was fully painted. And a giant funny German World

01:18:05.569 --> 01:18:09.090
War II flag right in the middle of the room.

01:18:09.569 --> 01:18:14.409
Oh no, bro. He's taking role play to a whole

01:18:14.409 --> 01:18:17.260
new level, folks. Here we go. How has he not

01:18:17.260 --> 01:18:20.619
walked out? Okay. Sometimes you just got to see

01:18:20.619 --> 01:18:23.420
where the freak show's going, man. That bit was

01:18:23.420 --> 01:18:25.399
enough to make me pretty uncomfortable right

01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:28.539
away. But we all just awkwardly ignored it whilst

01:18:28.539 --> 01:18:32.520
we played. It was a similar situation. 1 ,500

01:18:32.520 --> 01:18:35.319
points of wolves versus 1 ,500 points of necrons,

01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:39.220
guard, and dark elder. All throughout the game,

01:18:39.380 --> 01:18:43.420
he had a certain World War II documentary about

01:18:43.420 --> 01:18:47.460
a targeted group running, and he repeatedly referred

01:18:47.460 --> 01:18:53.619
to my buddy Talon Army as Sand N -Words. That's

01:18:53.619 --> 01:18:56.979
crazy. Needless to say, we finished that game

01:18:56.979 --> 01:18:59.819
as fast as we could and left. Only saw those

01:18:59.819 --> 01:19:02.260
guys once or twice after that. Bro played with

01:19:02.260 --> 01:19:07.880
the local skinhead. That's so crazy. American

01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:11.060
history 40k turning up for the game. Because

01:19:11.060 --> 01:19:13.439
I've seen posts of people like, oh, I really

01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:15.560
like the Black Templars. I'm thinking of getting

01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:17.760
a flag and putting it in my game room. And people

01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:21.100
are like, whoa. This guy's like, nah, I'm going

01:19:21.100 --> 01:19:24.300
one step further. He isn't even playing Krieg.

01:19:24.300 --> 01:19:26.039
He's not even playing Krieg or Black Templars.

01:19:26.340 --> 01:19:29.560
It's crazy. Why didn't he leave? If there's a

01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:32.539
big flag, do you know, immediately he's going...

01:19:34.290 --> 01:19:38.050
I played some games with Confederate flag bros

01:19:38.050 --> 01:19:40.829
back in the day. I'm in Alberta. That sounds

01:19:40.829 --> 01:19:43.670
pretty normal, I guess. That's probably a little

01:19:43.670 --> 01:19:45.510
bit of a step down from this guy, to be fair.

01:19:45.970 --> 01:19:49.369
In Alberta? You were muted, Colin, I think. I

01:19:49.369 --> 01:19:53.590
did. Whoops. Why is someone with that flag living

01:19:53.590 --> 01:19:58.100
in Alberta? On country. We're basically Texas,

01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:01.659
bro. Grandpoppy migrated here after the incident

01:20:01.659 --> 01:20:04.720
and I still have a few of his things. Maybe it's

01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:09.380
that kind of story. Oh, my word. My family has

01:20:09.380 --> 01:20:11.279
a German last name and we live in Argentina.

01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:15.479
It's crazy. There was a thing with the Guernsey

01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:18.439
flag is like the England flag of white background,

01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:20.859
red cross with just another gold cross in the

01:20:20.859 --> 01:20:24.039
middle. I'm sure a while back there was like

01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:26.710
some edgy person who got arrested he had like

01:20:26.710 --> 01:20:28.550
a flag because he's like oh got a templar flag

01:20:28.550 --> 01:20:31.130
it's like it's not a templar flag mate it's it's

01:20:31.130 --> 01:20:36.890
a small island near france calm down funny reddit

01:20:36.890 --> 01:20:42.109
story um it's the documentary in the back i'll

01:20:42.109 --> 01:20:45.829
say that's nasty like like the fact like can

01:20:45.829 --> 01:20:47.430
you imagine if you were brave enough like hey

01:20:47.430 --> 01:20:49.789
could you turn that off like would you be brave

01:20:49.789 --> 01:20:51.710
enough to say anything what is the outcome of

01:20:51.710 --> 01:20:58.689
that yeah Well, we do have some donations and

01:20:58.689 --> 01:21:00.569
some minis of the weeks to show off. So I've

01:21:00.569 --> 01:21:04.189
got mine and Hal's, guys. So if Colin and Eli,

01:21:04.250 --> 01:21:07.210
you want to have a quick mooch on the Discord

01:21:07.210 --> 01:21:09.630
for your mini of the week pick, I can go through

01:21:09.630 --> 01:21:14.430
some donations with Hal. So to start us off,

01:21:14.449 --> 01:21:16.949
it's DonkeyMan again. Here he comes again. For

01:21:16.949 --> 01:21:20.390
five. Conrad is my favorite Primark, but only

01:21:20.390 --> 01:21:25.420
because he's awful. Conrad. Simpson Glazers unironically

01:21:25.420 --> 01:21:30.239
dress as Heath Ledger Joker. Wow. What's a bigger

01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:33.680
red flag? People who for Halloween dress as Heath

01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:37.319
Ledger Joker or dress as Joaquin Phoenix Joker?

01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:42.939
Or worse, the Jared Leto Joker. I can't include

01:21:42.939 --> 01:21:45.420
that. That's too much of an easy pick, surely.

01:21:46.939 --> 01:21:52.489
It's the Conrad Kurz girlies. of the biggest

01:21:52.489 --> 01:21:56.869
the biggest warning with the big goth more please

01:21:56.869 --> 01:22:00.430
shame that the uh knight lord's armor is so sick

01:22:00.430 --> 01:22:05.390
looking for such sick bastards yeah uh name is

01:22:05.390 --> 01:22:07.750
chomsky another one for that is uh two euros

01:22:07.750 --> 01:22:13.710
imagine smiling over conrad i could never damn

01:22:13.710 --> 01:22:18.140
right you healthy man again nomeus Oh, imagine

01:22:18.140 --> 01:22:25.359
simping over Conrad. Bozo got shanked. I can't

01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:27.560
find the right place I'm supposed to send this,

01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:30.359
so I'm sending it to the gym. Paralyzed Tortoise.

01:22:30.539 --> 01:22:32.880
Oh, he says, why are the stream VODs unlisted,

01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:35.819
my lords? That is true. It's available on our

01:22:35.819 --> 01:22:40.539
Discord because we are trying to appeal to both

01:22:40.539 --> 01:22:43.699
crowds. We saw some comments on other things

01:22:43.699 --> 01:22:45.579
where people said, I miss when All Crimes was

01:22:45.579 --> 01:22:49.079
edited. and obviously we don't want to uh get

01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.439
take away from the live stream stuff so in our

01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:54.539
discord we have a link to uh the youtube playlist

01:22:54.539 --> 01:22:57.899
where you can get the live streams as they are

01:22:57.899 --> 01:23:00.479
like unedited and then the edited video goes

01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:02.500
on the youtube channel but it's still there for

01:23:02.500 --> 01:23:04.539
you you know just something's gone it's just

01:23:04.539 --> 01:23:08.520
yeah we're giving you both we're giving you both

01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:14.079
uh caleb collins thank you crew is cuz was right

01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:18.460
about his legions worthy of death sad but true

01:23:18.460 --> 01:23:26.340
tom warren thank you for the five dollar clearly

01:23:26.340 --> 01:23:28.640
big he needed to learn from a better god emperor

01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:31.239
and a bunch of space drugs until he knew the

01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.560
right path for humanity i'm just saving these

01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:46.050
things to show off and this one Zestra 3728 for

01:23:46.050 --> 01:23:49.729
10 bucks. Beatbox now has a three liter version.

01:23:50.050 --> 01:23:53.029
When can we expect a white girl wasted column

01:23:53.029 --> 01:23:57.090
stream? What is this? That was pretty peak. The

01:23:57.090 --> 01:24:00.649
world's tastiest party, 11 .1 % alcohol by value.

01:24:01.529 --> 01:24:08.080
Hmm. Hmm. No crunk juice, but it's not bad. Collins.

01:24:08.080 --> 01:24:10.340
Played the white girl music playlist, please.

01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:14.500
Let's try night on three hour repeat, please.

01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:25.640
Lobster dog. Gray boss. Member for six months.

01:24:25.779 --> 01:24:28.199
What Primark would fart under which it'd be more

01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:32.579
Tarion. He wouldn't even know he'd done it. It'd

01:24:32.579 --> 01:24:34.380
just fall out. It would be his roommate's door,

01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:37.699
specifically. He's the stinky man. I don't like

01:24:37.699 --> 01:24:39.939
that it would just fall out of him. No, I'm not

01:24:39.939 --> 01:24:42.680
a fan. I mean, if his subjects, they're like,

01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.199
oh, my intestines flopped on the floor. Whoops.

01:24:45.380 --> 01:24:47.060
Like, a fart's not a big deal. It'd be like,

01:24:47.140 --> 01:24:50.699
you know, the Steve -O, the old jackass one where

01:24:50.699 --> 01:24:54.970
they had, like, the cone and then the tube. Then

01:24:54.970 --> 01:24:58.189
the guy like farts into it. The one where he's

01:24:58.189 --> 01:25:00.470
in the port -a -loo and it's being like hurled

01:25:00.470 --> 01:25:02.369
in the air is just like the initiation ritual

01:25:02.369 --> 01:25:04.850
for any death guard labor surf. It's like...

01:25:04.850 --> 01:25:08.189
The guy farts in the tube and then it ends up

01:25:08.189 --> 01:25:14.850
just shitting in it. I've not seen this. Jackass

01:25:14.850 --> 01:25:21.529
is what? A bit of my poo for you. Last one here.

01:25:21.989 --> 01:25:26.810
Shout out Spooky Kabuki. uh thank you i had a

01:25:26.810 --> 01:25:29.689
friend who won a gt and went to worlds lose to

01:25:29.689 --> 01:25:32.050
me at an invitational i thought he was going

01:25:32.050 --> 01:25:34.850
to cry and he rage quit the invitational hole

01:25:34.850 --> 01:25:41.489
holy cow bro wow oh my gosh so uh we have a few

01:25:41.489 --> 01:25:45.270
here and i'm gonna start off with um i believe

01:25:45.270 --> 01:25:49.800
this is colin's offering from Summoner of Counts.

01:25:49.819 --> 01:25:52.079
That's me. Oh, it's your one. Sorry. This is

01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:55.619
Eli's. Okay. A cool warrior priest. It looks

01:25:55.619 --> 01:26:01.199
very cool. That is nice. I didn't realize they

01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:03.720
actually did chainmail that well on some of the

01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:06.760
other models. I like that. Yeah. He looks epic.

01:26:06.939 --> 01:26:09.119
That's all I have to say. It's an awesome model.

01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:13.659
Now the face... The face is peak. Don't say nothing

01:26:13.659 --> 01:26:17.559
about the face. That face is awesome. That's

01:26:17.559 --> 01:26:20.619
me realising all the takeaways are shot on Sunday

01:26:20.619 --> 01:26:26.319
in the UK. That is object horror. This is average

01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:29.260
Brexit geezer when Greggs has no more steak bakes.

01:26:29.380 --> 01:26:36.819
I can vouch for the Greggs. I too would be pretty

01:26:36.819 --> 01:26:40.159
angry in that circumstance. Although, Bricky

01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:42.680
is correct. The coffee is bad. Do not buy the

01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:45.140
coffee at the Greggs. Buy the pastries. Look,

01:26:45.180 --> 01:26:50.279
the coffee was acceptable. Acceptable. No, not

01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:53.260
good. Greg's is good because it's cheap. You

01:26:53.260 --> 01:26:57.479
can taste the quality of, like, you paid for

01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:01.680
something that basically costs nothing, and then

01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:04.779
you got something average tasting. And that's

01:27:04.779 --> 01:27:08.659
what tastes so sweet. Question is, Hal, do you

01:27:08.659 --> 01:27:12.079
have a Greg's loyalty scheme on your phone? I

01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:14.550
don't have a Greg's near me. I'm in the middle

01:27:14.550 --> 01:27:18.550
of nowhere now. That's a shame. I know. This

01:27:18.550 --> 01:27:23.689
one is Colin's offering. This one is from Panda

01:27:23.689 --> 01:27:29.250
Wizard. We got some little kelpies and that's

01:27:29.250 --> 01:27:32.930
surrounding one of the dark water, that little

01:27:32.930 --> 01:27:35.770
game box. New character. That's the one we watched

01:27:35.770 --> 01:27:38.449
that stream on and it was like incredibly long

01:27:38.449 --> 01:27:43.229
segment on this specific. It was, but... They've

01:27:43.229 --> 01:27:45.350
painted the model very well and I like the little

01:27:45.350 --> 01:27:48.149
helpy fellas. There's another one I'm going to

01:27:48.149 --> 01:27:49.789
share as well because it's a two -parter. You

01:27:49.789 --> 01:27:52.270
sent me two pictures. It's just the little goopy

01:27:52.270 --> 01:27:55.970
guys. It's the little goopy guys. I love them.

01:27:56.170 --> 01:28:00.390
How lovely. Made proper realistic -looking mud

01:28:00.390 --> 01:28:04.250
in the base as well. That's pretty cool. What's

01:28:04.250 --> 01:28:07.609
your secret? I got some mud. I think the guy

01:28:07.609 --> 01:28:15.390
from the story earlier. Giggles and Nurgle. He's

01:28:15.390 --> 01:28:20.590
the stinky one who does the poopy. This is Hal's

01:28:20.590 --> 01:28:26.149
offering. It's pretty nice. Look at how gripply

01:28:26.149 --> 01:28:36.149
his mouth is. This one is from Spooky. He's done

01:28:36.149 --> 01:28:39.390
a good job particularly obviously on the uh the

01:28:39.390 --> 01:28:41.609
green i assume that is airbrush because that's

01:28:41.609 --> 01:28:46.949
very uh bright like osl very cool but i think

01:28:46.949 --> 01:28:50.310
uh oh hey man is you spooky yeah i like that

01:28:50.310 --> 01:28:53.890
you've got um the skin is like you can see this

01:28:53.890 --> 01:28:57.909
purple in the like bottom like folds of it we're

01:28:57.909 --> 01:29:00.789
saying folds of skin uh but yeah like i'd like

01:29:00.789 --> 01:29:02.750
i like how you done that detail and then it's

01:29:02.750 --> 01:29:06.699
obviously uh brighter towards the top i love

01:29:06.699 --> 01:29:09.699
that model and did you use like a glue gun or

01:29:09.699 --> 01:29:12.119
something to make the like yeah strands because

01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:13.840
that's really cool where it's like its mouth

01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:18.359
is just all blurry and it looks sticky -ish i

01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:20.579
wish i had an actual uh version of this model

01:29:20.579 --> 01:29:23.140
i'm not paying 55 quid for one uh probably more

01:29:23.140 --> 01:29:27.720
now but um it's very it's 55 this is 100 in canada

01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:32.760
please sir it's still a lot of money uh i like

01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:34.500
that though he's doing a good job on that man

01:29:34.500 --> 01:29:36.239
i bet that looks really good on the uh on the

01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:39.199
battlefield with the uh with the whole army hell

01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:41.939
yeah man and my pick is a space marine because

01:29:41.939 --> 01:29:45.300
of course it is and it's from toad and it's a

01:29:45.300 --> 01:29:49.260
boy yeah no that is a very cool looking fellow

01:29:49.260 --> 01:29:51.460
though it's very well done nice power someone

01:29:51.460 --> 01:29:54.399
a nice man with the most confusing bolter in

01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:57.300
warhammer history how does it look like that

01:29:57.300 --> 01:30:03.720
side that's kind of cool he gangster and also

01:30:03.720 --> 01:30:05.380
i like the little watcher in the background just

01:30:05.380 --> 01:30:07.340
peeking through makes him look better now he's

01:30:07.340 --> 01:30:10.020
got like a little shadow cast on him you know

01:30:10.020 --> 01:30:11.960
he's done really well on this if you look at

01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:14.819
the very top of the banner like how has he got

01:30:14.819 --> 01:30:20.800
the shade so good in that uh a little you just

01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:24.000
said it am i blanking um What are they called?

01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:25.500
The little guys. The very top of the banner.

01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:29.319
The symbol of the Watcher on the top of the banner.

01:30:29.420 --> 01:30:32.220
The white belt. He's done really well on that.

01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.920
That's really good. Damn. You guys are all better

01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:40.060
at painting than I am. Yeah. Chess pieces. They've

01:30:40.060 --> 01:30:42.439
highlighted up that central Watcher as well.

01:30:42.539 --> 01:30:45.600
Hell yeah, man. All good stuff. And if you'd

01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:47.279
like to be featured for the Mini of the Week,

01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:50.000
check out our Discord. There is a section and

01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:52.109
it is called... mini of the week and we will

01:30:52.109 --> 01:30:53.710
have a look through and we will show off how

01:30:53.710 --> 01:30:58.970
better you are at painting than us. Yes. Other

01:30:58.970 --> 01:31:02.409
than that, Hal, before we go, I suppose I should

01:31:02.409 --> 01:31:04.529
ask the burning question that everyone's been

01:31:04.529 --> 01:31:08.789
thinking. Why Reddit, Hal? Why? Because did you

01:31:08.789 --> 01:31:12.050
not enjoy the stories we saw today? I did, I

01:31:12.050 --> 01:31:14.649
did, but there's usually connotations with...

01:31:15.180 --> 01:31:17.819
With fervent Reddit users. The epic wholesome

01:31:17.819 --> 01:31:20.819
Keanu Chungus Reeves. That's everyone like that.

01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:25.220
There we go. I think I hit all my bases. We are

01:31:25.220 --> 01:31:27.619
in no position to judge. There have been some

01:31:27.619 --> 01:31:31.079
heinous things said on this stream. You can make

01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:33.340
a Lorecrimes Reddit account and just post on

01:31:33.340 --> 01:31:35.159
the threads. Post your Warhammer horror stories

01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:37.819
and then we wouldn't have to search so hard to

01:31:37.819 --> 01:31:40.100
find these. Free labor. My idea for the next

01:31:40.100 --> 01:31:43.779
episode is finding Reddit threads that talk shit

01:31:43.779 --> 01:31:48.750
about us. I'm not so sure if we're popular enough

01:31:48.750 --> 01:31:51.550
for that. No, like our own channels. The thing

01:31:51.550 --> 01:31:55.250
is, my favorite thing I like to see is I'll occasionally

01:31:55.250 --> 01:31:57.850
see a thing I've been like, oh, you're already

01:31:57.850 --> 01:31:59.930
mentioned in this thing. And it'll be like favorite

01:31:59.930 --> 01:32:01.590
lore guys. They'll be like, oh, Amber King's

01:32:01.590 --> 01:32:03.529
great. Oh, I love Pancrase No Work. Daedalus

01:32:03.529 --> 01:32:04.829
and the Dark Ones. And then you go down and it's

01:32:04.829 --> 01:32:07.489
like, kind of like Remembrance. I'm like, that'll

01:32:07.489 --> 01:32:13.210
do. Or it's like, oh, there's one that is in

01:32:13.210 --> 01:32:16.340
there. the deep recesses of my mind i guess i've

01:32:16.340 --> 01:32:19.380
blocked it uh i can't remember what it is but

01:32:19.380 --> 01:32:21.279
it's just like always like i'll just see me and

01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:24.680
i'll be like there i am two updates i don't think

01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:26.439
we have enough to i don't think we have enough

01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:28.800
to complain about maybe i'm sure colin maybe

01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.239
but we're not enough personality we don't we

01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:37.460
need more personality i have i have a few i have

01:32:37.460 --> 01:32:40.789
a few complainers Not a whole tirade, but I found

01:32:40.789 --> 01:32:45.010
some people have very strong opinions. We'll

01:32:45.010 --> 01:32:47.409
see if that works. Some slurs for Colin, there

01:32:47.409 --> 01:32:51.449
be. Or we could do some other guys as well. You

01:32:51.449 --> 01:32:53.970
know, other people. We'll see. We'll do a tier

01:32:53.970 --> 01:32:57.430
list of our favorite YouTuber patrons and then

01:32:57.430 --> 01:33:00.010
make them all angry at us. Or Reddit threads

01:33:00.010 --> 01:33:01.869
complaining about 40k lore channels would be

01:33:01.869 --> 01:33:05.069
hilarious. Alright guys, appreciate you all.

01:33:05.289 --> 01:33:07.029
Thank you guys for tuning in to this episode.

01:33:07.069 --> 01:33:11.510
Regular podcast. stuff next week and I guess

01:33:11.510 --> 01:33:13.050
we'll see you all in the next one thank you guys

01:33:13.050 --> 01:33:16.029
for you particularly on the tabletop guys the

01:33:16.029 --> 01:33:18.069
miniatures are cool and keep sending them in

01:33:18.069 --> 01:33:21.210
if you want to check out the streams which are

01:33:21.210 --> 01:33:24.029
well just with the donations and unedited like

01:33:24.029 --> 01:33:25.949
you know with our faces on it that's still on

01:33:25.949 --> 01:33:28.810
the discord and we link it there so you can get

01:33:28.810 --> 01:33:30.470
it it's just an unlisted youtube playlist there

01:33:30.470 --> 01:33:32.869
and there's banter there's banter on discord

01:33:32.869 --> 01:33:35.210
as well yeah and we'll see you guys on the next

01:33:35.210 --> 01:33:39.260
one peace bye everybody Until next time.