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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

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It is us. It is Law Crimes. How are you all doing

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today? We would like to say they will be a Blood

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Angels. Again, probably one of the most like

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fantastic law greatest agents. And he's already

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got his blood wine out. Exclusive for the live

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episodes now on the black red label. So like

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that's pretty. That's pretty apt. I need to rapidly

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fill my liquor supply in my new house. It's quite

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sad right now. That statement was sad, but okay.

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You know what? I know what I'm about. Before

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anyone asks, yes, we have seen the new Dawn of

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War stuff with the Dark Angels. we are aware.

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Unfortunately. That's the big thing. It doesn't

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matter. We're talking about exciting things today

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because we are talking about different angels.

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Yes, we're talking about one of perhaps the most

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popular legions and chapters in the entire Warhammer

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setting. Overrated. Not what? It is not overrated

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because we're excited to talk about it. That's

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a hater of anything to do with humans. No. I

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quite like the Ultramarine. Oh, of course he

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does. I mean, yeah, we'll get... I mean, before

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we do that, we do have a... Actually, no, we'll

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get straight into it. I'll do an order of business.

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Congratulations for Colin, who's moved into his

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new place last few weeks, and so he's, you know,

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he's getting his life sorted out. There is...

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Look, I know that the closet's open, but most

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of that is actually... I mean, it's a closet,

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so... But look, the shelf, it has stuff on it.

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There's a little Warhammer thing. I got a fancy

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globe in the office. For the second shelf, I

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still need to build. For the edited audio listeners,

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Colin has no longer got a cup chair behind him,

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and it is now just a shelf. It is simply a shelf.

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He's a grown man. But speaking about things that

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make grown men cry, my beloved Sanguinius, my

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blood angels, the glorious, the Ninth Legion,

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what they were once known as, but I guess we

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can... delve, well, basically we're going to

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get straight into it, but before we learn things

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that not everybody did necessarily know about

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the Blood Angels, because they are pretty popular,

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we need to start with the basics for the uninitiated.

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I might ask, because he hates talking about humans

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so much, I might ask Eli to explain the genesis

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of this, which is who is Sanguinius? Yeah, I'll

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nominate the guy who's least excited to do it.

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Well, first of all, I'm realizing with the vertical

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and horizontal streams, it separates it into

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two different chats. So on my phone here, I can

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only see the vertical stream chat. But if I go

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to my PC, I can see the horizontal chat. And

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he's got both. And he's got both. He's in control.

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I'm just pleased about that. It's okay. He has

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to watch both. He has to watch both. I mean,

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we all have everyone in the same chat together,

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right? You can't see the live chat in our stream

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yards. I don't know. Let us know in chat if you

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guys care. Maybe no one cares about me. Anyways,

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freaking Sanguinius, second prettiest Primarch.

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Let's get that out of the way first. No, he's

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right. He's just, he is the prettiest when it's

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all natural. Maybe he's behind Jagatai. Okay.

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Maybe no one's accused of that. Look, Jagged

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Eye's handsome. He's not pretty. From a certain

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angle. He's pretty good. I should say, Sanguinius

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is beautiful, though. He's a beautiful, angelic

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being. Twink. I've read... Seriously, I've read

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like 20 or more Horus Heresy books, and not a

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single one of them is Blood Angels. That's how

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little Blood Angels books are in the Horus Heresy.

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You have to get quite far. They're heavy loaded

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towards the end. Their shining moment is at the

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end. Their whole plot is they are sent very far

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away from the heresy's bounce pad. Where everything

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happens, they're sent intentionally very far

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away alongside the Dark Angels and Ultramarines.

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We don't want them involved as long as possible.

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Send them really far away. We should say for

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the people who may be... this will be part so

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it's not everyone knows if i correct me if i'm

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wrong andy the original ninth legion though they

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weren't called the blood angels they had a different

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name which is before they even met their prime

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mark which was is it revenant legion or revenue

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legion yeah yeah i don't know why i do like that

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name i do prefer it but this was because um They

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were kind of crazy. They had not been tempered

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by the influence of what would be their Primarch

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later. But they essentially started off as this

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bloodthirsty, literally terrifying, butchering

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horde. And they were tempered when their Primarch

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Sanguinius was eventually found. And he himself

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experiences maybe a hint of rage, a hint of anger

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at times. thank goodness would teach them many

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great things which is to create artifacts beauty

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you know engage with arts you know create things

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that last for a lifetime and it was to channel

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this darkness into something better and then

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this will go on to form them as the blood angels

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which are again their imagery is very much i

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guess is it latin you say colonists by like latin

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angelic like catholic Eli did make a very good

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point in chat. I was going to talk about Sanguinis,

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but then got interrupted. He just said, oh, he's

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pretty. There's more to come. Eli's a hater,

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so it's fine. I don't hate Sanguinis. I just

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don't think he's as pretty as Walgrim. He has

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hacks. No, but Sanguinis is a very... kind being

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uh as much as he literally has angel wings on

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his back he is a symbol that many the imperium

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would then go on to worship when they turn into

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the 41st millennium but sanguinis and its legion

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pretty much develop a good reputation throughout

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what would be the early great crusade era this

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is stuff like that's mostly well known and then

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the part again like summing up very shortly they

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were obviously betrayed in the horus heresy they

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sided with the imperium they stayed loyal And

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eventually, as is what is even old law before

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the Horus heresy was flashed out, Sanguinius

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would fall at the hands of Horus Lupercal. Pretty

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brutally, I may say, if there's a part maybe

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not everyone knows, is like there's some lore

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about like old lore where Sanguinius supposedly

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weakened the emperor of Horus's armor. Whereas

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in the actual Horus heresy, Horus just like beats

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him to death. and it's pretty brutal but sanguineous

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does give his life for the imperium and he knows

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it's coming but he chooses to defy his fate even

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though it does happen very sad and forever when

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this happens the blood angels i don't know if

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i want to spoil it yet maybe because andy's bringing

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it up later but something goes wrong with the

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blood angels uh after the funny enough the death

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of their primarch and forever on the legion which

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would then be split into chapters uh after the

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horus heresy they would be primark less leaderless

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and knowing that their prime mark is dead they'll

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be dealing with curses and but yet they still

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prevail to do honor glory for the imperium and

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to be noble warriors defenders in their gleaming

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red armor obviously being split into many chapters

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though uh a diversity of uh thoughts and opinions

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would be uh developed over 10 000 years but the

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blood angels to the modern 41st millennium are

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essentially i mean there's no other way to say

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it they are like vampire noble vampire inspired

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like a little angels of death edward sparkly

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ones yeah and again with like the lot of i mean

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if i say angels not like biblically accurate

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angels with like the big eye and then like six

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wings which is kind of terrifying uh we're thinking

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more like literal you know depicted in a lot

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of like catholic or early christian art of like

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you know angels with wings and they're very you

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know they're beautiful sculpted men their gene

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seed literally turns them into beautiful men

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which is hilarious because like they're quite

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ugly as humans and then they get turned yeah

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not great it's like free um free ozempic you

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get handsome squidwardified Yeah, a little bit.

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You get real -life Instagram filters just plastered

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on your face, like, cool. They're all mewing.

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It's really annoying. But the Blood Angels, to

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this day, they are, as it currently is in the

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time of the Fourth of the Millennium, they are

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a chapter of a thousand Astartes that still live

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within the home region of Baal, which has three

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entities. They have Baal Primus, the huge planet,

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Baal Secundus, where their fortress world is.

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It's Baal Prime, isn't it? Because it's confusing.

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Baal Prime, yes. Baal Prime is the world, and

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then Primus is the... And so I get people always

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say, actually, don't you know this? No, it's

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called Baal Prime. It's not Primus. It's not

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Primus -y. It's Prime. Yeah. And then they have...

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Yeah, most of their homeworld's fortress, monastery

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and stuff is based on Baal Secundus, which is

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the moon, which is where a lot of characters

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are actually from. But they have another third

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moon, I think. Some people call it Balfoura.

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Other ones nickname it. I can't remember off

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the top of my head. But essentially, most of

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the people who live in this irradiated wasteland

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of Baal are recruited into the Blood Angels.

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They go on to serve in the Imperium. And much

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to this day, that's kind of the overall genesis

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of the Legion. Obviously, there's much more to

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fill in the gaps. But unless I miss anything

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particularly, it's just like really important

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basics. I had a question just off the top of

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my head I can't remember. Was it like during

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the Age of Strife it got turbo -nuked or does

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the planet just suck like that? It's briefly

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mentioned in the Devastation of Baal book. The

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Knights of Blood chapter master talks to Gabriel

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Seth about, oh, during Old Night, Primus and

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Baal Secundus, the two moons, they were obviously

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now separated from the rest of the galaxy so

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they started to get into tribalism and it's like...

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One had a larger population, but one had better

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technology. So they started nuking each other.

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And then it was like, oh, what have we done?

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And Bald Primus itself, if I'm not mistaken,

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is so bad. The only place you can really live

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on Bald Primus is the Arx Angelicum, the Fortress

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Monastery. Because everywhere else is just sand,

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scorpions the size of a house. It sucks. And

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the water that kills you. Oh, and first water,

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there's actually an organism that, it looks like

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water, but when you drink it, it dehydrates you

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until you're like a shriveled prune. And they

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even use that during the Devastation of Baal,

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they use a moat, and they surround the fortress

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with first water. And they start drowning in

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it, and they're like, throw in a million more,

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it's fine. And part of that, most people might

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not know, is that the... for the modern what

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they call the bar lights who live in the system

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the people who they leave them as tribesmen from

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the uh makes them quite tough but the interesting

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part is like there are parts like buried in like

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the red sands of like each of the planets there's

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different like what was clearly uh like the remnants

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of what was like a large scale either like a

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platform or like sort of spaceship or something

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really like an orbital ring possibly was around

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bar at one point and it was when it was destroyed

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in their civil war no it's not halo it's not

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the halo ring but um when it was destroyed in

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their civil war it crash landed onto the various

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planets and you can still like when they dig

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up parts of bar they can still find like remnants

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of this and it's yeah often uh like deep again

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like they talk about it in their myths as like

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that the stars fell from the heavens and obviously

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it wasn't a star it was a person yeah someone

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who lived there They blow up all the orbital

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defense stations when they had that big civil

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war. And then it's like, when they're defending

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Baal from the Tyranids, they're like, Dante's

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like, we've got all these space rings. We've

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got like 20 chapters here. Let's just dig up

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what we can find. And they're like, oh, that's

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useful. There's like a whole castle over here.

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Like, what? Yeah, found it. It's right here.

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Should we like fortify this? I guess. Why not?

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It's right here. Okay. Lots of buried treasures

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amongst Baal. But essentially that's kind of,

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that's for the opening campaign. That's kind

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of more of the basics. and he's gonna explain

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on to parts that maybe not everybody also more

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in depth than parts maybe not everybody knew

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so i guess we should start with 30k because that

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makes sense so like kind of kind of briefly talking

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about unification uh originally the blood angels

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were possibly going to be the first legion to

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get purged from the imperium because they were

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just like eating people and there were tales

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of like hulking giants taking children away and

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then that dead a night and just drinking all

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their blood and all the mums crying. It's like

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the opening to not Spaceballs, oh my god, what's

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the opening of Space King? Lord Angel's the flamethrower!

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The kids love this one. They've gone plaid. I

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don't remember what book it's from, though, but

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what is it, like, Sanguinius calls Angron's little

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expeditionary fleet a carnival of monsters, and

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I'm like, I don't think you have stones to throw

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right now, sir. Yeah, and one of the things that

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they're very much wrestling with is at this time

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they have a genetic flaw, which is the red first,

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which makes them, they don't lose their sanity

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completely, but they go into kind of fits of

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angry rampages. They're like pre -World Eater,

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World Eaters, but worse, where it's like they

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can only stave it off by drinking blood or it's

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a real like big suffering. And thankfully, they

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found a fella called Sanguinius, who was their

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gene dada. And he was like, you should learn

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to draw. And so they did that instead. And that

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helped temper their emotions. But Eli, I know

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you only basically said like, oh, he's pretty.

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Is there anything else you'd like to mention

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about Sanguinius and what he was like? Yeah,

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give him a compliment. Not anymore. I don't even

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need to be here, I guess. Like, it's OK. I can

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just leave. No. Don't be like that. Don't be

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like that. i don't even know that much sanguineous

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lore i just i just feel neglected i just feel

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neglected oh we need to give him a big hug uh

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i don't know i've made like one sanguineous video

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on my shorts channel out of 2000 videos and it

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was like five years ago uh but he's pretty he's

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pretty angel baby i like you know what you know

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i like i don't even know that much about him

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I don't even know that much about him. He's pretty.

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He fought a bloodthirster. He got killed by Horace.

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He tried to be friends with Horace. They were

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supposed to be buddies, and Horace kind of betrayed

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him. As for the early life Wikipedia section,

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I'm not sure much about it. I'm not actually

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that salty. I could have talked about the Blood

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Angels in general. I would have been much better

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at that. I have no Blood Angels videos for a

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reason. but i will someday someday i'll read

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their books i don't know xenos are cooler sorry

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40 40k blood angels are much cooler to me than

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30k blood angels well they they do have the trouble

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in the horror series again like like i said they're

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put very far away and their whole plot for like

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the first time they're introduced is oh we're

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gonna pit you against like cabanda and all the

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demons of corn and be like come on have a little

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chaos have a little chaos it's yummy and they're

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like no um and there's like bits where horus

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is the only primarch who knows about the red

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first and and there's bits where occasionally

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like ralderon or our ascalon who's the guy in

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charge of the sanguinary guard he'll be like

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and then he's like and then he'll just disappear

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and just be like grab one of his sons by the

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like with a garage and be like go to sleep go

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to sleep go to sleep and he has a like it's okay

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son it's okay i I have been dipping into 40K

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Blood Angels lore now that I have some models

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for them for like some 6th edition stuff. I like

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their characters a lot. I think they're the drippiest

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of all the chapters. They're very cool looking.

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They're up there with Black Templars and Dark

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Angels for aesthetics. Well, one of the reasons

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we got this Sanguinary Guard fellow I'm playing

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as who's gold is that they are the arts. They're

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like the theater kids of the Astartes. They're

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like, we like painting. We make... like cool

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bits of armor and we we like to draw things and

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that's how they they keep their rage and intact

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because when that rage is unshackled they're

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pretty messed up and um and this is is is taken

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advantage by with corn during the horus heresy

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where they're on this planet called cygnus prime

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they get there it's eerie it's full of like dead

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things there's like i believe there's bits where

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they go into space and there's just like chaos

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icons made of like the combined skin of loads

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of killed enemies. They've just smushed all the

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bodies together and be like, let's make it into

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an eight -pointed star, like a balloon animal.

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And they're like, that's weird. There's some

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really cool set pieces in Horus Heresy. It is

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related to the blood names, I swear, but at one

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point they do encounter an entire graveyard of

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ships, but they're all made of bone. I mean,

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like, it's as far as the eye can see. And it's

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considered, like, every ship that's ever, like,

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died because of chaos is basically recreated.

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So ancient ships of, you know, not just legionaries

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and humans, but, like, alien ships. It's just,

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like, crazy massive wall of it. So the Horus

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Heresy is some really weird thing that the Blood

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Angels have to encounter. Yeah. And they're like,

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this is not a good place to be. They're like

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that scene in Event Horizon where they see the...

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They're like the death war G and they press the,

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and then Lawrence, we don't need eyes to see.

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Yeah. We're leaving. I just watched, I just watched

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that video like last week. I know. Did you know

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that the ship is based off Notre Dame cathedral

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and it's on the points and the ship is where

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the pulpit is. Anyway, I sent you a video about

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that, but there's this whole thing that they're

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on Cygnus prime and they're, they're being taken

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advantage of by. It's kind of like the Red First

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is a bit of like a warp anomaly, perhaps. Maybe

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it was Khorne who put it there in the first place.

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It's kind of up to interpretation. So most of

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the chapter goes crazy balls. And First Captain

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Rauderon's okay because he's like, unfortunately,

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he doesn't really have any lore, even though

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he's in several books and he's in the Siege of

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Terror. He's just stoic Captain Man. Is this

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the guy with the model? Is this the jetpack guy?

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This is the one who's got like the most... Zephon,

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yeah, Dominion Zephon. He's the one who got...

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very badly wounded. A lot of angels have two

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or three horse heresy models. They've got Nasir

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Amit, they've got Rauderon, they've got Zephon,

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they've got... The guy with the mask, I can't

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remember his name. They've got a bunch, but it's

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like most of them are side characters who just

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have one tidbit. And Rauderon, even though he's

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in a bajillion books in the heresy, doesn't do

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anything apart from be stoic and is there. But

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he's alright. He doesn't go mental balls. There's

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also an apothecary called Meros, who we'll mention

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later. He's just like an apothecary. And he actually,

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at the end of the Cygnus Prime campaign, Chaos

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offers Sanguinius a bit of a bargain. They're

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like, hey, your sons are suffering. Kind of like

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what happened with Magnus, but corny. And they're

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like, hey, if you just give in, I'll take away

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their pain. I'll take away their suffering. Sacrifice

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your life to me. Be my pawn. and I will let your

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legion live. And Sanguin is like, okay, sure.

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And then Morosco is like, no, that's cringe.

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And he jumps in the way, and he merges with the

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Ragefire, which was created by Erebus. And his

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body is inhabited by a red angel demon. Not to

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be confused with Angron as the red angel. It's

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one of those Games Workshop naming things where

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it's two things with the same exact name. But

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you've probably seen that artwork where... There's

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like Horus and all the traitors on the vengeful

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spirit. And there's a guy on fire. He's like,

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oh, that's Meros. And he's inhabited by the demon.

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It's like, oh, I ate his soul. It was nummy.

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And Sanguinius is like, I'm going to get you,

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bitch. Other than that, they're in Imperium Nihilus,

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Imperium Secundus. They make their way to Holy

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Terror. They're there during the Siege of Terror.

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Sanguinius fights Cabanda and Angron and Horus.

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So he's been through a lot in that campaign.

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One after the other. A small detail that everyone

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might not know is that in, like, as we said,

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it's well -known lore that Sanguinius is sort

00:21:46.819 --> 00:21:50.599
of fated to die at Horus's hands. It's a vision

00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:52.700
he sees long before even the Horus heresy happens.

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He goes like, oh, that's weird. But I think a

00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.240
part maybe Colin and Eli might hate, which is

00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:01.059
the fact that basically Sanguinius was always

00:22:01.059 --> 00:22:05.000
going to die because he fights the demon Cabanda,

00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:08.089
the bloodthirster Cabanda. wins. He ends up fighting

00:22:08.089 --> 00:22:11.190
Angron. He tears Angron's butcher's nails out

00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:14.069
of his head and he wins. But the wounds dealt

00:22:14.069 --> 00:22:18.769
to Sanguinius by Angron, even the Emperor senses

00:22:18.769 --> 00:22:22.329
actually they're fatal. So Sanguinius is, when

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he goes to board the Vengeful Spirit to meet

00:22:24.829 --> 00:22:27.650
his destined death against Horus, he kind of

00:22:27.650 --> 00:22:31.250
knows he's going to die anyway at some point.

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His wounds are not healing. he's randy from staff

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park who's just like i don't hear no bell and

00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:40.569
he's just like yeah he walks up to horace as

00:22:40.569 --> 00:22:43.369
like a basically dead guy and just oh no he gives

00:22:43.369 --> 00:22:46.670
it his all like no because when he when um in

00:22:46.670 --> 00:22:50.829
the part where he does fight horace he like because

00:22:50.829 --> 00:22:53.710
like the fact that he actually has wings is actually

00:22:53.710 --> 00:22:56.710
a massive advantage so he horace is like lumbering

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and like in in thrall with like you know swelling

00:22:59.089 --> 00:23:02.720
with the power of chaos but he's slow I mean,

00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:04.019
I'm not going to lie. He's throbbing with the

00:23:04.019 --> 00:23:07.779
power gears. Horus is slow. So Sanguinis is using

00:23:07.779 --> 00:23:10.519
the fact that he has wings, like swooping, doing

00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:12.400
diving attacks. He knows he's not going to make

00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.559
it anyway. So he's giving it all he's got. And

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then at one point, Horus goes, I was just toying

00:23:19.299 --> 00:23:21.759
with you to lure in the Emperor. And now the

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Emperor's coming. I've got no time for this.

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Because he keeps trying to... The part that,

00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:28.039
again, because not everyone gets this point necessarily

00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:31.000
in the Horus heresy. Horus basically wants...

00:23:31.490 --> 00:23:33.230
sanguineus to join him even still because he's

00:23:33.230 --> 00:23:35.490
kind of mad he's gone a bit like his brain does

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he he doesn't he keeps talking to people who

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are dead so horace is just gone mad with chaos.

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Well, that and all the Primarchs he had were

00:23:42.829 --> 00:23:45.789
the shitter ones. Yeah, that's true. And then,

00:23:45.869 --> 00:23:48.589
yeah, so not everybody knows, like, you haven't

00:23:48.589 --> 00:23:50.529
got that part in the heresy. Not everyone knows

00:23:50.529 --> 00:23:52.730
that Horus was still trying to convince Sanguinius

00:23:52.730 --> 00:23:55.210
to, like, join him. And when he sensed the Emperor

00:23:55.210 --> 00:23:56.509
was coming, he's like, I'm sorry, I don't have

00:23:56.509 --> 00:23:58.849
time anymore. And he just grabs Sanguinius and

00:23:58.849 --> 00:24:01.430
just starts beating him. And then Sanguinius,

00:24:01.509 --> 00:24:05.529
like, his body is utterly broken. Like, his wing

00:24:05.529 --> 00:24:07.859
has been torn off. His, like, limb is... It's

00:24:07.859 --> 00:24:10.740
basically a Mortal Kombat fatality, but all of

00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:14.720
them combined. Yeah, and then he still stands

00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.599
somehow, and then Horus kills him. And then,

00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:21.339
unfortunately, the part that people may not like

00:24:21.339 --> 00:24:24.519
to know, which is he's basically crucified. He's

00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:28.079
hung up, strung up by demons behind Horus's throne.

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So that's what happens to Sanguinius, his fate,

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and Sanguinius dies. And then Emperor says that

00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.960
infamous line, look how they massacred my boy.

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And then he cries. But before we say, I don't

00:24:42.900 --> 00:24:45.319
want to say like, and then this would give the

00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.420
death psychic scream of like sanguineous as death

00:24:48.420 --> 00:24:51.900
gives way to the black rage. And I guess we'll

00:24:51.900 --> 00:24:54.500
leave it at that for a moment. Well, barely related

00:24:54.500 --> 00:24:57.559
nonsense. I'll go for it. Yeah. Has anyone, has

00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:00.099
anyone checked their YouTube like recap thing?

00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:04.740
Yeah. Who does that? Out of curiosity. I want

00:25:04.740 --> 00:25:07.740
to know what it's doing. Yeah. I got the most

00:25:07.740 --> 00:25:11.039
apocalyptic one I could have ever received because

00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.259
the soundtrack started with a JoJo edit, transitioned

00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:18.079
into a Miku song, and then it was like, yeah,

00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:20.279
the most watched content you did was Dead by

00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:22.539
Daylight content. I'm like, yeah, I got to kill

00:25:22.539 --> 00:25:26.380
myself. I've got a problem. It gives you like

00:25:26.380 --> 00:25:29.839
a Wojak name as well. Yeah. We saw that, like

00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:35.099
a Wojak type. The song edit was called Crucified,

00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:38.460
which is why this came up. It pinged my brain.

00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:40.960
Does anyone notice that Dagoth Earth kind of

00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:45.619
looks like Dante with the mask? Anyway, before

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we go any further, should we go through some

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donations? We got about 20. Thank you very much.

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late due to Hal Gooney to Sanguinius. Crack it

00:26:12.309 --> 00:26:21.490
so hard every time. Andy, I think this is for

00:26:21.490 --> 00:26:24.119
you. Blood Angels have a long history of Marines

00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:25.960
with short history from Andy will wear a green

00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:32.779
hat in four weeks. It's coming. It's coming.

00:26:34.619 --> 00:26:39.680
Zyko the Psycho. I thought that was Alexander

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.000
Anderson for the profile pic at first. Five pounds.

00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:46.700
First time super chatting. Previous episodes

00:26:46.700 --> 00:26:49.460
seem to say I should insult you so. IDK what's

00:26:49.460 --> 00:26:53.599
being said, but Colin is wrong. Wow. Thank you

00:26:53.599 --> 00:27:00.279
very much. Sick. For Tony is good. Yeah. Got

00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:04.200
it. Wow. That's crazy. Biggest clip that clip

00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.059
that clip that biggest squig in 44 82. Thank

00:27:07.059 --> 00:27:08.920
you very much for two greetings from the long

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vigil. 185 hours in voice chat. Shout out to

00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.660
the discord. Join the discord. It's up to one

00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:17.380
89 now. Yeah. To fight, to join the discord,

00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:21.150
to fight the good fight. And go for, I don't

00:27:21.150 --> 00:27:23.309
know, 1 ,000 hours of voice chat nonstop. Don't

00:27:23.309 --> 00:27:26.789
tell them to do that. Too late. Yeah, sure enough.

00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:30.789
Another one. Nomius Chomsky for one month. Shout

00:27:30.789 --> 00:27:34.289
out from the 189 -hour voice chat. Nice. You

00:27:34.289 --> 00:27:38.890
guys are insane. That's crazy. XR set. Member

00:27:38.890 --> 00:27:41.250
for three months. Thank you, brother. Congratulations

00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:43.450
on the new place, Colin. Thank you very much.

00:27:45.659 --> 00:27:49.220
Basically in 442, thinking for the $5. The Miku

00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:52.160
plushie in the cuck closet. Yeah, can we see?

00:27:52.180 --> 00:27:54.240
Is there a Miku plushie back there? Yeah, there

00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:58.019
is. Sure. I'll go find it. You see, that's not

00:27:58.019 --> 00:28:01.259
what goes in the jar. What goes in the jar is

00:28:01.259 --> 00:28:06.039
the Terraria's Riad figurine. Yeah, that's the

00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:07.980
true love. That's the true love. Not the damage,

00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.619
y 'all. Nah, she's going in the gunk jar. Is

00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:13.400
there big enough jar to contain her? What other

00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:15.700
horrors will the closet hide? I guess we'll have

00:28:15.700 --> 00:28:17.420
to find out. It doesn't really have any horrors.

00:28:17.420 --> 00:28:21.099
It's got, like, cables. It's got Master Chief

00:28:21.099 --> 00:28:24.339
next to Miku and a Warhammer thing. Is that a

00:28:24.339 --> 00:28:26.339
neon sign for the Warhammer? Is that light lit

00:28:26.339 --> 00:28:29.000
up? No, it doesn't light up, but it's just like

00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.200
that. Reminds me of the Reddit horror story where

00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.319
the girlfriend found under her boyfriend's bed

00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.799
a jar full of all of his toenail clippings. He

00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.279
can't do it. Can't talk about it. It's still

00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:47.309
only second to mom finding the piss drawer. Incoming

00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:50.549
backup for 30 squigglies. The real reason Blood

00:28:50.549 --> 00:28:52.430
Angel's got the Black Rage is because it replays

00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:55.390
the moment Boingob got cooked. And the red first

00:28:55.390 --> 00:28:57.289
is a psychic echo of his hunger in the moments

00:28:57.289 --> 00:29:01.470
preceding the jump. All hail ye. Incoming backup

00:29:01.470 --> 00:29:06.269
is Boingob's number one guy. Since day one. He's

00:29:06.269 --> 00:29:07.869
the day one Boingob. He's the reason we know

00:29:07.869 --> 00:29:18.390
of him. Vicaricado? Oh, God. Viciarcado. Thank

00:29:18.390 --> 00:29:22.809
you. I'm sorry, I'm a select guest. 4096. Happy

00:29:22.809 --> 00:29:27.250
birthday, Colin. It's been going for so long

00:29:27.250 --> 00:29:30.150
that it is now only a little over a month till

00:29:30.150 --> 00:29:35.250
my birthday. Wow. Angry Homunculus, thank you

00:29:35.250 --> 00:29:36.609
for being a member for six months. That's very

00:29:36.609 --> 00:29:41.009
cool. Eli, did you hear Dawn of War 4 decanonizes

00:29:41.009 --> 00:29:44.039
War of Secrets? How does it do that? I'd be quite

00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.680
pleased if it did do that. I don't know how it

00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:48.779
would possibly do that, but I'd be happy if that's

00:29:48.779 --> 00:29:51.460
true. It's a terrible book. Can we retcon Battle

00:29:51.460 --> 00:30:01.299
of the Abyss? Retcon what? Shalaxy's megalomaniacal

00:30:01.299 --> 00:30:04.160
ripper, Kinamin Vulcan versus Sangi, who's left

00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.960
after a weak Vulcan. He's perpetual. He's got

00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:12.640
stamina. He beat Demon Magnus because he just...

00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.940
couldn't die. Everyone beats Demon Magnus Aspirin.

00:30:16.500 --> 00:30:20.059
Two Space Wolves, Space Marines beat him. Three

00:30:20.059 --> 00:30:23.059
Space Wolves, Space Marines beat him. Jaiko the

00:30:23.059 --> 00:30:25.500
Psycho. That's a cool name. Became a member.

00:30:25.579 --> 00:30:26.779
Cheers, man. Thank you so much. Thank you very

00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:31.619
much. Thank you. This is for Colin, though. Shalaxy's

00:30:31.619 --> 00:30:35.039
Megamaniacal Gripper with a 2 CA. How has Colin's

00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.460
new setup aged him even more? I don't... How

00:30:38.460 --> 00:30:47.380
old are you, Colin? 26. no miss chomsky thank

00:30:47.380 --> 00:30:51.460
you very much thank you guys hope you all doing

00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:54.160
well eli i've watched your video from paradise

00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.880
thank you very much now i want to see more really

00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.759
great video colin i hope you are doing well in

00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:01.980
a new home shout out to summoner for holding

00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:04.740
vc live for many hours true summoner's the number

00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:07.000
one guy in there check out check out paradise

00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.900
on youtube for uh the best battle report you've

00:31:09.900 --> 00:31:12.279
ever seen unironically probably a true statement

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.720
okay i'm honestly not gonna lie it's really unsettling

00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:17.440
when someone pulls out something with really

00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.420
good production because you're just like bruh

00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:22.940
i know this person it's really like shit are

00:31:22.940 --> 00:31:26.190
you i didn't do any of the I didn't do any editing.

00:31:26.670 --> 00:31:28.829
That's you, though. You're in it. It's crazy.

00:31:29.309 --> 00:31:33.170
That's you. Hello, Fox. Ash Fox for 10. Stream

00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:35.150
late from gooning to the devastation of Baal.

00:31:35.230 --> 00:31:38.490
Can't blame Hal, though an entire planet became

00:31:38.490 --> 00:31:40.750
homeless. Pretty hot, not gonna lie. Thanks for

00:31:40.750 --> 00:31:42.589
being great, guys. Khan is the hottest Primark,

00:31:42.630 --> 00:31:46.670
though not even close. True. True. It's confirmed.

00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:55.359
at the sky buy uh for 10 bucks long time jerker

00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.779
first time buster appreciate y 'all helps me

00:31:58.779 --> 00:32:02.119
get through these 12 hour janitor shifts uh also

00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:06.000
fun fact the horus audio book files add up to

00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.400
over 75 gigabytes i'm not reading all that bro

00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.220
if you don't want to read all that just go watch

00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:15.589
lodcast Well, fun fact, I'm going to be hopefully

00:32:15.589 --> 00:32:17.109
putting a video out this weekend, which will

00:32:17.109 --> 00:32:21.089
be 175 gigabytes. So we will see how that goes.

00:32:22.250 --> 00:32:24.849
I became a member as well. Thank you. Thank you.

00:32:24.869 --> 00:32:30.410
Thank you. Knox 9086 for five. My Spotify rap

00:32:30.410 --> 00:32:32.069
says that I'm in the top three percent of your

00:32:32.069 --> 00:32:33.730
listeners. Anyway, here's my first donation.

00:32:33.970 --> 00:32:36.430
Thank you very much. Thanks, man. I like the

00:32:36.430 --> 00:32:40.609
pumpkin PFP with the tie. We are indeed on Spotify.

00:32:41.309 --> 00:32:46.799
Mm hmm. Oh my god, it's getting closer. And I'll

00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.859
wear a green hat in one week. Two euros. It's

00:32:50.859 --> 00:32:53.559
one week. YouTube's buggy again. Sanguineous

00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.079
number one husband -o. So it's next week. Okay,

00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.400
next week I'll wear a green hat. Cool. No worries.

00:33:00.819 --> 00:33:04.720
What? Donkey Man USA with the two bucks. They

00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:09.279
put D 'Amico in the magic jeep. None of you seen

00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.079
that? No one knows what he's referencing? It's

00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:16.440
just like, it's some stupid clip. I mean, it's

00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.140
just like an old Halo 2 commercial, maybe Halo

00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:22.099
3, where it's like Mountain Dew cross -promoting.

00:33:22.380 --> 00:33:24.980
But it's just this dude voicing it over and going

00:33:24.980 --> 00:33:30.039
like, Yeah, it can't be any worse than, what's

00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.539
his name, from Parks and Recs doing that whole...

00:33:32.890 --> 00:33:35.269
Was it Halo 5 trailer where he's like the scribbly

00:33:35.269 --> 00:33:37.869
chief? And they're like, won't loot boxes affect

00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:40.269
the bonus? Shut your chilly hole, Nick. Shut

00:33:40.269 --> 00:33:43.930
up, you. It's bad. Can we please get celebrities

00:33:43.930 --> 00:33:46.789
out of the trailers for games? I don't like that

00:33:46.789 --> 00:33:50.470
crossover. The ones that we can have are like

00:33:50.470 --> 00:33:52.630
the ones that aren't just for celebrity voice

00:33:52.630 --> 00:33:55.609
budget, you know? Yeah. Keith or Sutherland in

00:33:55.609 --> 00:33:58.309
Metal Gear Solid 5. What a waste. What a waste.

00:33:58.509 --> 00:34:02.079
Keith David? Good. Keith or Sutherland. I don't

00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:06.880
know about that one. Isn't there, like, a video

00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:08.960
of him just, like, randomly, like, tackling a

00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.320
Christmas tree in a hotel? Well, like, maybe.

00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.880
That's what I remember. If your product has J

00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:17.639
.K. Simmons in it, I'm hyped because he's good

00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:19.719
at what he does, but he's a deserved celebrity

00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:24.679
role. Thank you, Mark! Thank you! At Marvin V

00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:29.139
for two pounds. The king's pounds. Oh my god,

00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.760
I saw the queen. I will not forget, Colin, for

00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:36.139
the worm prostate exam. No, that is not what

00:34:36.139 --> 00:34:39.519
I said. Remember. That is not what I said. It

00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:43.900
was not an exam. Wow. It was very funny, though.

00:34:44.099 --> 00:34:50.860
Very funny. My life is a weird one. Biggest squig

00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:54.380
in 4482. Master Chief inside Miku? Crazy ship.

00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.789
Crazy indeed. And the last one for now. Who'd

00:34:57.789 --> 00:35:00.750
like this last one for now? Your cervix, a .k

00:35:00.750 --> 00:35:04.769
.a. Chris Topher. Thank you for the $2. Colin,

00:35:04.829 --> 00:35:07.269
is your hair migrating south for the winter?

00:35:08.309 --> 00:35:11.590
Is that the compliment of the beard? Yeah, is

00:35:11.590 --> 00:35:14.250
that a compliment or an insult? I can't tell.

00:35:14.610 --> 00:35:17.630
I'm assuming an insult given you all. And one

00:35:17.630 --> 00:35:20.610
last one from Neon LF Graves for five. Can you

00:35:20.610 --> 00:35:22.070
bring Crono the Harlequin as a guest for the

00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:24.809
review of Legion on LaunchCast? Can't do that,

00:35:24.849 --> 00:35:28.889
I'm afraid. We've already done it. Me and Eli.

00:35:29.389 --> 00:35:31.530
I hate to say this, guys. We're actually, in

00:35:31.530 --> 00:35:33.570
terms of recording, we're quite far into it.

00:35:33.829 --> 00:35:35.989
Episode 12 or something. It's going quite well.

00:35:36.190 --> 00:35:38.750
I'd like to just really quickly shout out the

00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:42.369
man who said, Taco of Terror. Colin looks like

00:35:42.369 --> 00:35:44.269
he lives in the mountains. This is like the second

00:35:44.269 --> 00:35:46.849
time. I got that, and then I got someone the

00:35:46.849 --> 00:35:48.710
other day who just asked me, do you ever not

00:35:48.710 --> 00:35:52.650
look like white trash? Wow. Unbelievably rude.

00:35:52.949 --> 00:35:57.369
I still get Mr. Beast. Yeah, but you do look

00:35:57.369 --> 00:36:01.349
like Mr. Beast. He looks like me. I'm older than

00:36:01.349 --> 00:36:04.869
him. You are older than him, I think. You didn't

00:36:04.869 --> 00:36:07.449
get called white trash, at least. I think Mr.

00:36:07.510 --> 00:36:12.730
Beast is like 27. Yeah. I still will not forgive

00:36:12.730 --> 00:36:14.949
him for when I left my flat in Wembley and there

00:36:14.949 --> 00:36:17.210
was just a big banner of him with that dead -eyed

00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:19.289
smile trying to sell me lunch balls. I'm like,

00:36:19.409 --> 00:36:22.630
get away from me. But yeah, so we talked about

00:36:22.630 --> 00:36:24.849
Horus Heresy stuff. I guess we should now cover

00:36:24.849 --> 00:36:28.869
a little bit about 40k. 40k, they are like, Blood

00:36:28.869 --> 00:36:31.070
Angels are like one of the best Space Marine

00:36:31.070 --> 00:36:33.449
chapters because they have a few things going

00:36:33.449 --> 00:36:35.969
for them. One, they've got gold armor, which

00:36:35.969 --> 00:36:40.599
is pretty cool. Two, one of the guys... yeah

00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.400
um and also captains like taiko had gold armor

00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.480
as well um but they they also have commander

00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.519
dante who is supposedly the oldest space marine

00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:51.360
who's not in a dreadnought which i will cover

00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.559
later as not being true um but he is like one

00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.440
of the oldest he's like a thousand years old

00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.900
he's a millennium years old man seems some he's

00:36:59.900 --> 00:37:01.719
like every day he wakes up and he's like i just

00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:07.030
want to die like oh dante you poor man um a weird

00:37:07.030 --> 00:37:09.409
discrepancy with dante everything he's depicted

00:37:09.409 --> 00:37:12.710
in he's got like gray hair but in the book he's

00:37:12.710 --> 00:37:15.110
got jet black hair what's going on with that

00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:17.349
i think because they think he's an old man in

00:37:17.349 --> 00:37:20.070
like because i think features aren't they because

00:37:20.070 --> 00:37:21.849
i think canonically the space wolves are the

00:37:21.849 --> 00:37:24.190
only ones who are allowed to have gray hair but

00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:26.210
then you've got lysander from the imperial fist

00:37:26.210 --> 00:37:28.570
who also has gray hair like this this doesn't

00:37:28.570 --> 00:37:32.349
work this too no it doesn't work i i know the

00:37:32.349 --> 00:37:36.599
raw reason for this which is um that supposedly,

00:37:36.659 --> 00:37:39.139
because when they were... Obviously, Genesee

00:37:39.139 --> 00:37:41.320
comes from Primarchs, the seed from the daddy,

00:37:41.500 --> 00:37:46.179
as they say. I hated that. You choose to say

00:37:46.179 --> 00:37:48.360
these things. Yeah, I know, I know. My life is

00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:52.679
a waste. I'm breathing this air. I'm stealing

00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.980
air from people. No, I'm joking. Pull back, pull

00:37:55.980 --> 00:37:59.800
back. Me versus Rogue. Don't worry, we'll get

00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:05.840
him next time. Back on point. The law reason

00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:11.019
is because when they had the gene seed stocks,

00:38:11.300 --> 00:38:12.980
and that's how they create space marines from

00:38:12.980 --> 00:38:16.079
them, or they help turn people into space marines.

00:38:16.420 --> 00:38:20.420
Essentially, it's a copy. In the 41st millennium,

00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.480
it's a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. So

00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:26.480
despite being able to turn people into space

00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:30.159
marines, it's not quite as pure as the stocks

00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.429
they had in the... great crusade so that's why

00:38:32.429 --> 00:38:36.190
um what you know coined first born marines or

00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:40.269
you know before the primaris the uh astartes

00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:44.010
basically did age at a much faster rate or they

00:38:44.010 --> 00:38:46.530
weren't as immune to aging as something like

00:38:46.530 --> 00:38:49.449
what would be you know a marine of chaos who's

00:38:49.449 --> 00:38:52.369
you know straight from the 31st millennium so

00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.239
That's the reason why they do age. Whereas Chaos

00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.559
is degrading because it's in the warp, and that's

00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.900
a bad place to put it. That's a bad place. They're

00:39:00.900 --> 00:39:03.300
like sourdough bread. You get the yeast thing.

00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:04.940
I can't remember what it's called, but they have

00:39:04.940 --> 00:39:07.940
the original thing. The starter. The starter,

00:39:08.019 --> 00:39:09.780
and then it grows, and then you pick off a bit,

00:39:09.860 --> 00:39:12.800
and your relative goes, have some of the starter.

00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:18.380
Okay. Sourdough, that's crazy. Sour Marines.

00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:20.730
But it should be said, it's not... It's not always

00:39:20.730 --> 00:39:22.590
true for every space spring though because some

00:39:22.590 --> 00:39:25.010
of them, like in the example of the Space Wolves,

00:39:25.010 --> 00:39:27.190
some of them can be older than Logan Grimnaw

00:39:27.190 --> 00:39:29.710
and they don't get grey hair. It just depends

00:39:29.710 --> 00:39:32.809
on how well someone's gene seed mixes in with

00:39:32.809 --> 00:39:36.610
your DNA. And we also have to mention time is

00:39:36.610 --> 00:39:38.889
really strange in Warhammer because of the warp.

00:39:40.389 --> 00:39:43.449
There's a throwaway line in Devastation of Baal

00:39:43.449 --> 00:39:46.639
where... the the cicatrix maledictum explodes

00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.619
and it kind of smothers baal in the region of

00:39:49.619 --> 00:39:52.559
baal and everyone's like how did like the indomitas

00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.400
crusade get to baal like instantly and it's because

00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.460
oh they were like they were in there a while

00:39:58.460 --> 00:40:01.519
in like the in the real space devastation of

00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.219
baal was happening for a long time even though

00:40:03.219 --> 00:40:05.320
it was like a couple of weeks and it's like yeah

00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.380
it's been months And then there's also, if you

00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:09.380
get trapped in the warp, you can be in there

00:40:09.380 --> 00:40:11.440
for like a thousand years. And in the real space,

00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.099
it's just like, Oh, it's 10 minutes. Oh, which

00:40:14.099 --> 00:40:18.179
we'll get onto later. Um, kind of reminds me,

00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:21.440
uh, I don't know if legends or canon, but there's

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.079
a thing where clone troopers started being less

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.360
quality because they didn't have fresh access

00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.159
to material. That's what the storm troopers didn't

00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:33.360
they? That's slightly different. That's a more...

00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.099
That's a long conversation that's unrelated.

00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.159
That was just the Gen Z thing reminded me of

00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.519
that specifically. The Stormtroopers replacing

00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:46.679
them is a massive thing. Because Jango Fett was

00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:52.760
no longer around. Yeah. Are we already done talking

00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.619
about the Horus Heresy Blood Angel stuff? More

00:40:55.619 --> 00:40:59.460
or less. It feels like we... talks about nothing

00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:01.780
for like 30 minutes. They're in the Cygnus campaign.

00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:05.860
They're in Imperium Secundus and then they're

00:41:05.860 --> 00:41:07.139
at the Siege of Terra. That's all they have.

00:41:07.340 --> 00:41:11.340
That's all they have. That's like a lot of books.

00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:13.619
That's more than Lord of the Rings. And two of

00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:15.599
those are sharing space with the Ultramarines

00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.139
and the Dark Angels and a little bit of Space

00:41:18.139 --> 00:41:20.019
Wolves and White Scars. And then the other one

00:41:20.019 --> 00:41:22.840
is White Scars, Imperial Fists, Salamanders,

00:41:23.059 --> 00:41:25.159
Imperial Guard, a little bit of Space Wolves,

00:41:25.260 --> 00:41:27.099
a little bit of Shattered Legions. It's all over

00:41:27.099 --> 00:41:29.340
the place. And it's like, We only get one thing.

00:41:29.659 --> 00:41:31.380
Do they have like a dedicated book where it's

00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:34.039
just them? Yeah, Cygnus. And that's the only

00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.440
one. That's it. Huge. That's the only one. Huge.

00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:41.360
Eat shit, Blood Angels fans. And it's a really

00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.079
good book, but it's also like, it's all you get.

00:41:43.500 --> 00:41:45.320
Iron Hand's got more than that, and theirs suck.

00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.719
They're like, oh, it's all over the place. Like,

00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.400
this is good, this is bad, this is dog shit.

00:41:50.219 --> 00:41:53.090
Are the Blood Angels books any good? Oh, the

00:41:53.090 --> 00:41:55.809
40k ones are really good. The Horus Heresy, I

00:41:55.809 --> 00:42:00.989
mean. If you like Horus Heresy, yeah. What does

00:42:00.989 --> 00:42:04.269
that mean? Bear in mind, Eli, if you want to

00:42:04.269 --> 00:42:05.909
read them, that's like Siege of Terror, that's

00:42:05.909 --> 00:42:08.150
like 10 books, and they're the end of the Horus

00:42:08.150 --> 00:42:10.630
Heresy. And then it's like Imperium Secundus,

00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:14.489
two books, one book. And then it's Cygnus. It's

00:42:14.489 --> 00:42:16.309
like, okay, you've got two books. I just want

00:42:16.309 --> 00:42:18.369
to read the one where he fights Cabunda, and

00:42:18.369 --> 00:42:20.590
then I just want to stick to 42 Blood Angels.

00:42:20.650 --> 00:42:22.469
Which time? He fights him twice. He fights him

00:42:22.469 --> 00:42:25.130
once in the season, and once in Cygnus. The time

00:42:25.130 --> 00:42:27.090
when he says, only angels can fly, because that's

00:42:27.090 --> 00:42:31.590
cool. I think that's the first one. Yeah, Cygnus.

00:42:32.409 --> 00:42:34.010
The second one, he's like, get the fuck out of

00:42:34.010 --> 00:42:39.789
my hometown! To be fair, most of... Most Blood

00:42:39.789 --> 00:42:42.449
Angels lore... was often even through the early

00:42:42.449 --> 00:42:45.230
editions of warhammer came about uh as the in

00:42:45.230 --> 00:42:47.670
set in the 41st millennium so this is a lot yeah

00:42:47.670 --> 00:42:49.690
a lot of this lore was established like kind

00:42:49.690 --> 00:42:51.989
of long before the horrors heresy even was a

00:42:51.989 --> 00:42:55.849
thing um but yeah they in their i guess only

00:42:55.849 --> 00:42:59.210
in their 41st millennium it's kind of like again

00:42:59.210 --> 00:43:01.369
sanguineous has been dead for a long time he's

00:43:01.369 --> 00:43:03.329
a mythological creature almost at this point

00:43:03.329 --> 00:43:06.489
although more people know sanguineous as dante

00:43:06.489 --> 00:43:09.550
he wears the death mask of like sanguinary gods

00:43:09.550 --> 00:43:13.000
they have the The death mask of Sanguinius. And

00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.239
it's like, more people know Sanguinius as Dante's

00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.980
image than Sanguinius. Because Sanguinius was

00:43:18.980 --> 00:43:21.280
around for 200 years during the Great Crusade,

00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.440
Horus Heresy. Dante's 1 ,000 years old. More

00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.619
people consider him to be Sanguinius. We should

00:43:27.619 --> 00:43:32.079
say, for an interesting part, Dante himself as

00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:34.619
a character, I think Eli and Colin might appreciate

00:43:34.619 --> 00:43:37.480
this specifically, he's not a very hateful man.

00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.820
And this is because he has learned... what many

00:43:40.820 --> 00:43:43.519
other chapters would never even dare to do, he

00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.460
has been willing on at certain times to work

00:43:46.460 --> 00:43:49.820
alongside Xenos in sort of joint compliance,

00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.619
or joint, not compliance, in joint actions, which

00:43:52.619 --> 00:43:55.539
I think maybe Eli might be more privy to, because

00:43:55.539 --> 00:43:57.739
I think you've done some more stuff on that recently,

00:43:57.900 --> 00:44:00.139
haven't you? I don't know if Eli would care to

00:44:00.139 --> 00:44:03.239
explain any of the Dante Blood Angel crossovers

00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.820
with some of the characters you enjoy. Dante

00:44:06.820 --> 00:44:11.230
is the Necron's top guy. He's the Dynasty's top

00:44:11.230 --> 00:44:13.610
guy, it turns out. He's allied with the Silent

00:44:13.610 --> 00:44:17.010
King and with Anrakir the Traveler. Despite the

00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:19.409
Silent King completely deceiving him and messing

00:44:19.409 --> 00:44:22.489
him up, he's still trusted Anrakir the Traveler

00:44:22.489 --> 00:44:24.610
enough to ally with him. I guess times are desperate

00:44:24.610 --> 00:44:26.610
enough. And Anrakir was a lot nicer to him than

00:44:26.610 --> 00:44:29.710
the Silent King was. But I can explain the whole

00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:33.889
thing, I guess, if we want. On Gehenna Prime,

00:44:34.190 --> 00:44:36.489
which has significance for reasons that I don't

00:44:36.489 --> 00:44:38.789
know to the Blood Angels. Do either of you know?

00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:43.000
why Gehenna Prime is significant. I can talk

00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.400
about Vampire the Masquerade lore, but I don't

00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.519
think that's the right Gehenna. I don't know

00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.219
if it's the same Gehenna as the World Eater Gehenna,

00:44:50.219 --> 00:44:54.420
Andy. Gehenna Massacre. I don't know. Gehenna's

00:44:54.420 --> 00:44:56.739
used a few times throughout Warhammer in terms

00:44:56.739 --> 00:44:59.599
of names and stuff, but I'm not thinking of any

00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:04.119
specific Blood Angel significance. Okay, anyways.

00:45:04.619 --> 00:45:06.800
The Blood Angels are fighting the Necrons on

00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.960
Gehenna Prime. which has a lot of hive cities

00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:12.539
on it. Necrons make a point to talk about how

00:45:12.539 --> 00:45:15.599
gross hive cities are. And then it turns out

00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.880
the Tyranids are on their way. First of all,

00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:19.820
the Blood Angels are having a bad time against

00:45:19.820 --> 00:45:22.139
the Necrons. And Captain Tycho's there. Shout

00:45:22.139 --> 00:45:24.400
out Captain Tycho. He's really cool. He's in

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.320
no books, really, other than one small one. He's

00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.659
in a few bits, but yeah. He's still the coolest

00:45:30.659 --> 00:45:32.719
character ever because it came about from narrative

00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.360
tabletop fun stuff. Yeah, and he looks really

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.739
cool. His model's awesome. Anyways, they're fighting.

00:45:38.900 --> 00:45:43.119
Necrons are coming in a war meeting with Dante

00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.559
and Captain Tycho and a bunch of sergeants. I

00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.480
don't know the significance of any of the sergeants,

00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.699
including the one that goes with them, by the

00:45:50.699 --> 00:45:53.280
way. But whatever. I don't know if he's that

00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.739
important. The story is pulled from that sergeant's

00:45:55.739 --> 00:45:58.219
perspective, though. A triumviratorian shows

00:45:58.219 --> 00:46:02.639
up on screen and says, Mighty Zarek, last and

00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.300
greatest of the Silent Kings. demands your presence

00:46:05.300 --> 00:46:08.599
and would like to speak with you and says come

00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:12.519
meet us here and dante says okay sure and taiko

00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.699
taiko first of all volunteers to go by himself

00:46:16.699 --> 00:46:19.539
and blow himself up basically but dante says

00:46:19.539 --> 00:46:22.360
let's hear him out so they go in a rhino strapped

00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.679
with a nuke basically And they hold some buttons

00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:27.820
in their hands, which they don't open. They go

00:46:27.820 --> 00:46:30.360
to the Silent King's crib, basically. This, like,

00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.840
gigantic monolith thing, ziggurat thing. And

00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.500
there's, like, a thousand trepratorians and a

00:46:36.500 --> 00:46:38.579
bunch of nobles and the whole, like, legions

00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:40.500
of warriors standing in this really cool scene.

00:46:40.860 --> 00:46:44.920
And the Silent King, Mr. Zarek, shows up in the

00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.639
golden mask of Sanguinius. It's actually just

00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.960
as pretty as Dante's, the sergeant says. And

00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.050
the Silent King says, That he's met Sanguinius

00:46:55.050 --> 00:46:57.130
before, or at least he knows of him and he liked

00:46:57.130 --> 00:46:59.070
him and he wanted to make an alliance with them.

00:46:59.269 --> 00:47:02.130
And supposedly they were making an alliance together

00:47:02.130 --> 00:47:04.750
and they had contacted each other before. I'm

00:47:04.750 --> 00:47:08.269
sure, maybe, maybe not. And for this reason,

00:47:08.309 --> 00:47:11.909
Dante has an inkling of trust to the Silent King.

00:47:12.130 --> 00:47:14.469
And he says, okay, sure, we'll team up with you

00:47:14.469 --> 00:47:16.250
to fight the Tyranids. Because the Silent King

00:47:16.250 --> 00:47:18.190
never wanted to fight the Blood Angels in the

00:47:18.190 --> 00:47:20.769
first place. I'm turning this into an Ekron episode.

00:47:22.590 --> 00:47:24.409
And so they fight together, but the Silent King

00:47:24.409 --> 00:47:26.849
actually manipulates Dante quite significantly.

00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:29.909
He tricks the humans into fighting the Void Battle

00:47:29.909 --> 00:47:31.969
into the Tyranids because he parks his ships

00:47:31.969 --> 00:47:35.670
too far away from the Imperial Auspexes to see

00:47:35.670 --> 00:47:37.630
their ships, so they think only they hold Void

00:47:37.630 --> 00:47:39.730
superiority. So the Blood Angels lose a bunch

00:47:39.730 --> 00:47:43.730
of ships. They then... The Necrons give the Blood

00:47:43.730 --> 00:47:46.150
Angels the honor of defending the Hive Cities,

00:47:46.329 --> 00:47:48.309
which actually has very little tactical benefit,

00:47:48.489 --> 00:47:51.260
but it... causes the most casualties, so the

00:47:51.260 --> 00:47:53.340
Blood Angels take way more casualties than the

00:47:53.340 --> 00:47:56.500
Necrons, and then the Necrons also, like, steal

00:47:56.500 --> 00:47:59.239
the Blood Angels' equipment from their fallen

00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.739
brothers, so they, like, lose, they lose pretty

00:48:01.739 --> 00:48:04.760
hard in this, but they do actually beat the Necrons,

00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:06.139
and then the Sonic King just, like, runs away

00:48:06.139 --> 00:48:09.539
and laughs, basically. And then the Tricretorian

00:48:09.539 --> 00:48:11.920
tells Anrakir, the Traveler, about this. What

00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:14.059
were you going to say, Andy? Well, there is also

00:48:14.059 --> 00:48:16.820
the Anrakir, the Traveler bit in the... Are we

00:48:16.820 --> 00:48:19.210
getting there? okay i was gonna i was gonna ask

00:48:19.210 --> 00:48:23.010
if you're gonna bring it uh uh yeah and in the

00:48:23.010 --> 00:48:27.030
devastation of paul uh seventh edition sorry

00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:28.849
shield the ball you're right seventh edition

00:48:28.849 --> 00:48:32.909
supplements and also in a novella anarchy of

00:48:32.909 --> 00:48:36.409
the traveler meets with sergeant jay teal of

00:48:36.409 --> 00:48:39.829
the bloody angels first which is maybe the sergeant

00:48:39.829 --> 00:48:42.480
that goes with dante and taiko to meet something

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.440
but i'm not sure i don't know if they ever even

00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.380
say his freaking name i think taiko's not even

00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:49.500
he's not first captain he's like third or so

00:48:49.500 --> 00:48:51.800
he's not like a big he's a big boy but he's not

00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:55.239
the biggest boy yeah he's not um first captain

00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.340
carlayan he's he's first captain but anarchy

00:48:58.340 --> 00:49:01.920
the traveler top five necrons easy peasy uh meets

00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.500
with sergeant jtl and literally says take me

00:49:04.500 --> 00:49:08.579
to your leader He goes to meet Dante later on,

00:49:08.659 --> 00:49:11.280
and all these monoliths descend, and Dante's

00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:15.380
on... I don't remember the system's name or the

00:49:15.380 --> 00:49:17.199
planets. It's been a while since I talked about

00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.000
this. The cryptosystem? Yes, the cryptosystem.

00:49:20.380 --> 00:49:22.139
Dante's on one of the planets. They're defending

00:49:22.139 --> 00:49:26.099
this hive city or a city, whatever, and the Tyranids

00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:29.039
are oncoming. It's looking pretty dire. Endercare

00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.719
the Traveler shows up because there is the tomb

00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:34.619
world of Calorant here. around here and also

00:49:34.619 --> 00:49:38.119
some nephrit dynasty guy so he wants to save

00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:41.380
the necromancer yeah i think uh the ineffable

00:49:41.380 --> 00:49:44.940
and dante wants to save the imperium so they

00:49:44.940 --> 00:49:48.219
team up and recur the traveler and he's nice

00:49:48.219 --> 00:49:50.139
to him they actually work together quite well

00:49:50.139 --> 00:49:52.800
dante fights on the walls and recur and his buddies

00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:54.519
go underneath and fight their way up through

00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.880
the uh through the system through the tears of

00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.340
the hive city as our through fights in like the

00:50:00.340 --> 00:50:02.739
clouds and the sky we lost the footage sorry

00:50:04.299 --> 00:50:06.679
I can't believe that is me. Oh, that's just me.

00:50:06.860 --> 00:50:09.179
Ignore me. Sorry, ignore me. Yeah, this guy,

00:50:09.219 --> 00:50:12.619
this guy. And he sends a Tanshard of the Burning

00:50:12.619 --> 00:50:15.320
One to go fight with the Death Company off on

00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.820
a separate planet. And their whole goal is basically

00:50:17.820 --> 00:50:20.320
to get the super weapon working. I don't quite

00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.340
remember what it's called, but it's basically

00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:28.429
something that can like farm, make a laser. I've

00:50:28.429 --> 00:50:31.429
just done a video on this. It's like a big solar

00:50:31.429 --> 00:50:33.530
relay. And then the Imperium's like, we use it

00:50:33.530 --> 00:50:36.550
for energy. And the Necrons are like, that's

00:50:36.550 --> 00:50:41.769
not what it's made for. All these plans have

00:50:41.769 --> 00:50:43.489
to work together. And the Necrons and Imperials

00:50:43.489 --> 00:50:46.630
work quite well together. And Rekir and Dante

00:50:46.630 --> 00:50:48.650
fight in the same battle together, basically.

00:50:48.670 --> 00:50:50.690
Not like side by side, but their armies are fighting

00:50:50.690 --> 00:50:53.010
on the same fronts. It's really cool. It's really

00:50:53.010 --> 00:50:55.090
fun. I watched my Anarchy of the Traveler video

00:50:55.090 --> 00:50:57.929
to hear all about it. There is a bit where they're

00:50:57.929 --> 00:51:00.530
fighting, and Dante's on the surface, Anarchy

00:51:00.530 --> 00:51:02.190
is in the bowels, and they're being just flooded

00:51:02.190 --> 00:51:04.670
by Genestealers. And Dante's like, we're not

00:51:04.670 --> 00:51:07.510
going to get to the objective. And then Anarchy

00:51:07.510 --> 00:51:10.429
is like, I have a special weapon. And he's like,

00:51:10.489 --> 00:51:12.849
I got a Catan Shard. Like, what? He's like, yeah,

00:51:12.889 --> 00:51:15.889
I've got Zadra Fusa, the burning one. And he

00:51:15.889 --> 00:51:18.670
just starts going, and Dante's like, oh, shit.

00:51:18.949 --> 00:51:24.000
And then... Go for it, go for it. The Burning

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.719
One solos a hierophant. It has been shot a little

00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.380
bit, but that's a really cool scene. And then

00:51:31.380 --> 00:51:33.159
he sends the Burning One off to go save, well,

00:51:33.179 --> 00:51:35.340
not save, but help the Death Company reach their

00:51:35.340 --> 00:51:37.480
final objective because one of his cryptex failed

00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.460
over elsewhere and they needed to win that fight

00:51:39.460 --> 00:51:42.159
to actually activate the weapon. There's like

00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:44.800
a multi -front war where it's like Dante and

00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:48.079
Anrakir are like, we're fighting to get to one

00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.000
bit. And then Seth and the Flesh Terrors were

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.960
the sisters of battle. are trying to get to the,

00:51:52.980 --> 00:51:54.739
they have like an uplink to the super weapon.

00:51:55.059 --> 00:51:58.239
Then captain Donatus and high priest Corbulo

00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.119
are on the gas giant, making sure that these

00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.500
like surveyor belts are still intact. And then

00:52:03.500 --> 00:52:07.719
it's like, I'll send the Catan shard and my crypt

00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.739
tech and we'll sort it out. And then the crypt

00:52:09.739 --> 00:52:12.719
tech fumbles the bag. But Dante was like, little

00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.059
did he know, I sent an entire ship full of death

00:52:15.059 --> 00:52:17.690
company, just in case. Good thing I did. And

00:52:17.690 --> 00:52:20.070
so then they're like, oh, and they start running

00:52:20.070 --> 00:52:21.849
in and killing the Tyranids. And the Sanguinal

00:52:21.849 --> 00:52:24.010
shows up, I think. And the Sanguinal shows up.

00:52:24.150 --> 00:52:25.630
And then, like, there's a bit where one of the

00:52:25.630 --> 00:52:28.090
Death Company is dying. And his last dying moment,

00:52:28.110 --> 00:52:32.750
he's like, it's my dad. I'm so happy. And then

00:52:32.750 --> 00:52:34.900
he dies. And then, like. while the deaf company

00:52:34.900 --> 00:52:36.639
are looking for the like controls to shoot this

00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.480
because they have to blow up the sun in the system

00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:40.860
to completely destroy the tyranids like in the

00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:43.039
billions and then they'll use the planets as

00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.920
shelter from like the rays when it blows up but

00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.320
then like the qataran shard starts like charging

00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.300
the super weapon bringing it back into orbit

00:52:50.300 --> 00:52:52.860
i can't it's called the maglevarium or something

00:52:52.860 --> 00:52:54.699
like that and oh yeah it is yep it's something

00:52:54.699 --> 00:52:57.059
like that yeah yeah let me use the burning one

00:52:57.059 --> 00:52:58.619
to charge this thing and yeah then they shoot

00:52:58.619 --> 00:53:01.380
it they kill the tyrannids and they kill most

00:53:01.380 --> 00:53:03.800
attorneys and then there's necrons like We're

00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.119
just going to bounce. And Dante's like, bitches,

00:53:06.219 --> 00:53:10.019
they always do this. And it's enough. They kill

00:53:10.019 --> 00:53:13.480
enough Tyranids so that Baal survives the oncoming.

00:53:13.500 --> 00:53:17.519
Well, they stole the Tyranids by a few months

00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.400
by killing a few billion. Because Leviathan,

00:53:20.420 --> 00:53:24.199
instead of doing like First Tyrannic War, you've

00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:26.760
got Behemoth. It goes like a sledgehammer. Kraken,

00:53:26.900 --> 00:53:30.679
it's more subterfuge. They're spread out. Leviathan

00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.800
goes like a multi -pronged assault. So it's like.

00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:36.199
tarsus ultra with uriel ventress shield worlds

00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:38.219
of baal in the crypto system then another one

00:53:38.219 --> 00:53:41.059
around the maelstrom to go for baal and it's

00:53:41.059 --> 00:53:43.659
like it's all sorts of attack and it's like we

00:53:43.659 --> 00:53:45.599
just killed like 10 billion terranids and it's

00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.119
like we are not slowing them down there's another

00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:51.320
tendril working its way around and then the devastation

00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:55.030
of i think i mean One would say you have Anrakir

00:53:55.030 --> 00:53:57.090
the Traveler to thank for you still having a

00:53:57.090 --> 00:54:00.429
Blood Angels chapter. Just maybe. No, because

00:54:00.429 --> 00:54:03.030
the Necrons woke up and they realized we can't

00:54:03.030 --> 00:54:04.769
do this alone. We need the Blood Angels, which

00:54:04.769 --> 00:54:07.409
sounds to me like... They both needed each other.

00:54:08.130 --> 00:54:12.389
They both needed each other. And then Anrakir

00:54:12.389 --> 00:54:14.349
and Dante looked at each other in the eye and

00:54:14.349 --> 00:54:20.630
they kissed. With what lips? They figured it

00:54:20.630 --> 00:54:25.800
out. Bringing it to a more Blood Angel focus

00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:31.099
on the actual episode. By the time we're getting

00:54:31.099 --> 00:54:34.460
to essentially the 41st millennium, the Blood

00:54:34.460 --> 00:54:37.320
Angels have been like a depleted force in terms

00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.480
of they've been spread out much across the galaxy.

00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:43.599
It is a dark time. Cadia. I just talked a little

00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.019
bit about the Secret of Maleditza and basically

00:54:45.019 --> 00:54:48.360
Cadia has fallen. And I guess, Andy, there's

00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.070
something which is... Did you have any Blood

00:54:51.070 --> 00:54:52.989
Angels Civil War before that, or did you want

00:54:52.989 --> 00:54:55.469
to do... Well, prior to Devastation of Baal,

00:54:55.530 --> 00:54:58.050
there are a few interesting things. One of them

00:54:58.050 --> 00:54:59.630
being, if you read the Blood Angels Omnibus,

00:54:59.670 --> 00:55:02.429
which is really good. Is it by James Swallows

00:55:02.429 --> 00:55:04.969
again? It is by James Swallows. How did you guess?

00:55:05.329 --> 00:55:10.250
How did you know? And it's really good. POV character

00:55:10.250 --> 00:55:12.690
is Rath and the Ready. He's just like a Blood

00:55:12.690 --> 00:55:15.650
Angels Sergeant. He's pretty good, capable Astartes.

00:55:16.030 --> 00:55:19.800
He kind of looks a bit like Keanu Reeves. And

00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:22.619
weirdly, he has a brother. And I don't mean like

00:55:22.619 --> 00:55:25.679
a brother. He has like a biological brother who's

00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.360
also a blood angel called Archeo. And they get

00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:32.480
on really well. But there's a point where on

00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.000
the Battle Barge Bellus, Dante is like, oh, we've

00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.760
located the lost weapon of the Primarch, the

00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:40.800
Spear of Telesto. And the Spear of Telesto, if

00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.179
you've seen any art of Sanguinius, he's got a

00:55:43.179 --> 00:55:45.380
spear of like a kind of teardrop tip. It's white.

00:55:45.980 --> 00:55:48.300
And that's like one of his most iconic weapons.

00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.769
And it was lost. And Dante's like, we found it.

00:55:50.829 --> 00:55:52.650
The orcs have it, because of course the orcs

00:55:52.650 --> 00:55:56.289
somehow found it. And so for a decade, Arceo

00:55:56.289 --> 00:55:58.710
is on this expedition to try and find it, and

00:55:58.710 --> 00:56:00.670
they manage to get to this world called Evangelion,

00:56:00.670 --> 00:56:04.989
and they kill the orcs. Anime. Anime. Anime.

00:56:05.710 --> 00:56:08.650
I haven't seen it. Neither have I. I just heard

00:56:08.650 --> 00:56:11.309
it's got a bleak ending. Wait, I didn't hear

00:56:11.309 --> 00:56:14.329
the name. Which one? Evangelion. Oh, yeah, garbage.

00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:18.659
I've never actually seen it. I just refuse to

00:56:18.659 --> 00:56:21.079
watch it. Not as good as Sword Art Online, huh?

00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:25.360
Yeah. We've got to bring that back. We haven't

00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:26.800
heard from there. No, we don't got to bring that

00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.159
back. I've never seen it. But either way, the

00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.780
Blood Angels managed to get it back thanks to

00:56:32.780 --> 00:56:36.139
a Puritan Inquisitor called Ramia Steele. What

00:56:36.139 --> 00:56:38.360
we don't know about Ramia Steele is he's actually

00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.699
a Chaos Worshipper of Sinch, and he's using the

00:56:40.699 --> 00:56:42.639
Blood Angels. And you're like, why would he?

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.940
help the Blood Angels get a Primarch weapon for

00:56:45.940 --> 00:56:47.440
Siege. That doesn't make no sense. Well, it's

00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.000
all part of a plot. Basically, Arceo is promoted

00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.960
to the Honor Guard of Sanguinary Priest Sakael,

00:56:54.099 --> 00:56:57.900
and he's implanted with a warp spawn mutagen

00:56:57.900 --> 00:56:59.920
into his spinal column while he's not looking,

00:57:00.019 --> 00:57:04.900
somehow. And slowly, he starts to look a lot

00:57:04.900 --> 00:57:07.119
like Sanguinius. He already looked like Sanguinius.

00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.699
Now, he's like the spitting image of Sanguinius.

00:57:10.670 --> 00:57:12.349
And they're like, wow, that's kind of weird.

00:57:12.469 --> 00:57:14.710
I guess the gene seeds get doing overtime. Cool.

00:57:15.269 --> 00:57:17.349
And they get to the cemetery world called Cybele

00:57:17.349 --> 00:57:20.650
and they fight the word bearers. And the thing

00:57:20.650 --> 00:57:22.650
about the Primarch weapons is generally speaking,

00:57:22.809 --> 00:57:24.469
yes, you could wield a Primarch weapon if you're

00:57:24.469 --> 00:57:26.929
strong, but the, whatever, like the secret sources

00:57:26.929 --> 00:57:29.849
within them, only a Primarch or someone who's

00:57:29.849 --> 00:57:31.690
very in tune with like the Primarch's bloodline

00:57:31.690 --> 00:57:34.550
can utilize them to their full extent. And so

00:57:34.550 --> 00:57:36.250
they got the spear and they're like, we shouldn't

00:57:36.250 --> 00:57:38.150
be like using this in battle. This is a relic.

00:57:38.190 --> 00:57:41.570
We don't touch, we don't touch dad's stuff. But

00:57:41.570 --> 00:57:44.750
out of desperation, Arceo's like, oh, I'll use

00:57:44.750 --> 00:57:48.010
it. And he managed to activate it. And the spirit

00:57:48.010 --> 00:57:50.289
of Lesto has a quirk where it projects a beam

00:57:50.289 --> 00:57:53.409
of light which vaporizes everyone. But if you

00:57:53.409 --> 00:57:57.250
have Blood Angel's genetics, you're fine. It

00:57:57.250 --> 00:57:58.889
just passes over you like a nice light and it

00:57:58.889 --> 00:58:01.250
makes you feel nice. So he just like disintegrates

00:58:01.250 --> 00:58:03.590
like a hundred word bearers. And everyone's like,

00:58:03.789 --> 00:58:08.690
wow, that was weird. Okay. And so they go, oh,

00:58:08.829 --> 00:58:13.969
clearly. He is Sanguinius reborn. Clearly. Right.

00:58:14.150 --> 00:58:16.829
Okay. Now, they don't know that this is because

00:58:16.829 --> 00:58:20.469
of some sinch trickery. But then they start to

00:58:20.469 --> 00:58:24.130
go, well, Dante's getting on a bit. Tycho fell

00:58:24.130 --> 00:58:26.849
to the Black Rage. He was groomed to be the next

00:58:26.849 --> 00:58:29.710
Chapter Master. He's dead. Moriah the Chosen

00:58:29.710 --> 00:58:33.090
is also a Dreadnought Death Company guy. He's

00:58:33.090 --> 00:58:35.889
never going to be Chapter Master. Captain Leontis

00:58:35.889 --> 00:58:38.289
is gone. We can't use him, who I'll mention later.

00:58:38.630 --> 00:58:41.010
I guess Sanguinius is back in our time of need.

00:58:41.210 --> 00:58:46.750
Hooray! Sanguinius is reborn! And they start

00:58:46.750 --> 00:58:50.110
to call him Arceo the Blessed. And he goes, I've

00:58:50.110 --> 00:58:52.909
got an idea. How about I lead a blood crusade

00:58:52.909 --> 00:58:55.090
and I reunite all the successor chapters of the

00:58:55.090 --> 00:58:57.510
Blood Angels and we form a legion again and I'll

00:58:57.510 --> 00:59:00.750
be in charge. And Dante will surely be like,

00:59:00.869 --> 00:59:03.210
oh, clearly you're Sanguinius. I'll step down

00:59:03.210 --> 00:59:08.019
and you can be in charge. So, they go to a planet

00:59:08.019 --> 00:59:11.099
called Shenlong, and they liberate it from word

00:59:11.099 --> 00:59:15.280
bearers, and the populace... Shenlong? Shenlong.

00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:19.300
That's how it's said in Japan. What's that game?

00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.719
Bloody Raw. Like Shenlong in Bloody Raw, the

00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:26.000
fighting game. And yeah, so the Shenlongese,

00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:28.960
as they're called... That is another name, by

00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.159
the way. My Shenlongese is longer than yours.

00:59:34.170 --> 00:59:36.170
But Rafa and his brother, who's like, oh, my

00:59:36.170 --> 00:59:38.510
brother is now being worshipped, kind of. He's

00:59:38.510 --> 00:59:39.610
looking around at the populace and he's like,

00:59:39.769 --> 00:59:43.030
they're not making icons in the image of the

00:59:43.030 --> 00:59:45.250
emperor anymore. They're making them in the image

00:59:45.250 --> 00:59:49.769
of my brother. That's not good. Don't get me

00:59:49.769 --> 00:59:52.070
wrong. I'm not jealous. I respect my brother.

00:59:52.150 --> 00:59:54.869
I love my brother. But this is clearly heresy.

00:59:55.769 --> 00:59:59.170
So he tries to... And then he sends a message

00:59:59.170 --> 01:00:00.949
to Dante and the blood angels, blah, blah, blah.

01:00:01.050 --> 01:00:02.309
He's like, oh, by the way, there's something

01:00:02.309 --> 01:00:05.239
going on. Something weird. And Arceo starts raising

01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.280
a mortal army called the Warriors of the Reborn,

01:00:07.380 --> 01:00:09.280
like hundreds of thousands of Shenlong citizens.

01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:11.920
And they all wear like the Spirit of Lesto on

01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:16.039
like a brooch. And as soon as Dante hears about

01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:17.880
this, he goes, oh, I need to like have some boots

01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:19.980
on the ground, see what's going on. I'm going

01:00:19.980 --> 01:00:24.039
to send Captain Galeo and Epistolary Vode, who

01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:25.920
was trained by Mephiston. So Epistolary, big

01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.300
boy librarian. I'll send him, see what they say.

01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.059
As soon as they get there, Vode's like, chaos.

01:00:31.690 --> 01:00:34.409
I can see the Gribblies. I can see Cinch in your

01:00:34.409 --> 01:00:38.090
bunghole. It's right there. So then Arceo's men...

01:00:38.090 --> 01:00:40.610
I'm sorry, brother what? Don't worry about it.

01:00:41.210 --> 01:00:46.550
Arceo's men... Arceo's men then execute Captain

01:00:46.550 --> 01:00:49.789
Galeo and the Epistolary. They just gun them

01:00:49.789 --> 01:00:52.150
down in like a tent. And then Raffan's like,

01:00:52.230 --> 01:00:55.309
oh, this has gone really far. So Raffan escapes

01:00:55.309 --> 01:00:57.929
or tries to escape. And then Arceo sends a message

01:00:57.929 --> 01:01:00.150
to Dante saying, surrender the chapter to me.

01:01:00.570 --> 01:01:02.309
I'll meet you on the Shrine World of Sabian.

01:01:02.889 --> 01:01:05.329
And if you resist, we will kill you and I will

01:01:05.329 --> 01:01:08.349
take it by force. Oh, this sounds like a civil

01:01:08.349 --> 01:01:12.610
war to me. So Dante's like, well, he's like,

01:01:12.710 --> 01:01:14.429
I'm not stupid. I'm like a thousand years old.

01:01:14.570 --> 01:01:17.469
If I go to the Shrine World and I do die, that

01:01:17.469 --> 01:01:19.530
will cause more problems. I'm going to send Mephiston

01:01:19.530 --> 01:01:21.869
in my place and he can like, he's like the best

01:01:21.869 --> 01:01:24.710
psyker I have. Like Vode was a capable psyker,

01:01:24.750 --> 01:01:27.250
but like this sounds like warp trickery. If I

01:01:27.250 --> 01:01:29.050
send Mephiston, he can go in my stead as my like

01:01:29.050 --> 01:01:33.119
second. and he can see what's going on. So Mephiston

01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:34.820
gets there, and he judges Archeo as corrupted

01:01:34.820 --> 01:01:37.219
by Sinch, and he says, all right, by the Book

01:01:37.219 --> 01:01:39.280
of Lords, if you truly want to lead the chapter,

01:01:39.619 --> 01:01:43.019
I demand a trial by combat, you versus me. And

01:01:43.019 --> 01:01:45.500
then Rathen has a whole thing I've glanced over

01:01:45.500 --> 01:01:48.039
where he's escaping. And he's like, no, actually,

01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:53.139
mate, sorry. Excuse me. I'm his brother. I'm

01:01:53.139 --> 01:01:55.719
his brother. I'll fight him. I'll do it. And

01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.190
Mephiston's like... I don't know. He's like,

01:01:59.269 --> 01:02:02.269
okay, okay, I'll let you fight in my stead. So

01:02:02.269 --> 01:02:04.210
the two of them start fighting, and it's worth

01:02:04.210 --> 01:02:07.150
pointing out that at this point, Arceo has sprouted

01:02:07.150 --> 01:02:11.090
wings, but they're not like angel wing, angel

01:02:11.090 --> 01:02:13.530
wings. There's something wrong with them. Occasionally

01:02:13.530 --> 01:02:15.309
he looks in the mirror and he sees eyeballs in

01:02:15.309 --> 01:02:17.530
them, and they just vanish. And so the spirit

01:02:17.530 --> 01:02:19.989
of Lesto doesn't activate anymore, because it's

01:02:19.989 --> 01:02:24.090
like, ugh, ugh, chaos, ugh, and it won't listen

01:02:24.090 --> 01:02:27.130
to his commands anymore. Be gone, wahmen. We

01:02:27.130 --> 01:02:29.570
don't want you near us. So he's having a big

01:02:29.570 --> 01:02:31.050
problem with this, and Inquisitor Steel's like,

01:02:31.190 --> 01:02:32.829
it's okay, bro, it's okay. You're going to be

01:02:32.829 --> 01:02:34.170
in charge of a legion. You're going to be like

01:02:34.170 --> 01:02:35.849
the most powerful space marine ever. It'll be

01:02:35.849 --> 01:02:40.130
chill. It'll be Coachella, bruh. And so the two

01:02:40.130 --> 01:02:42.289
brothers fight, and it's going quite well, but

01:02:42.289 --> 01:02:44.630
in the midst of the fighting, the word bearers

01:02:44.630 --> 01:02:46.829
I mentioned earlier, they're still angry, so

01:02:46.829 --> 01:02:49.269
they get involved. So then Inquisitor Steel kills

01:02:49.269 --> 01:02:52.989
the Sanguinary High Priest, and he says, oh,

01:02:53.010 --> 01:02:55.639
by the way, Mephiston... brought the word bearers.

01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.460
Clearly the Psyche is icky. He's the one who

01:02:58.460 --> 01:03:00.440
did this. He's the one who's going to destroy

01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:02.500
our Messiah. He's the one who's causing the problems.

01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:04.900
So then the blood angels fight each other and

01:03:04.900 --> 01:03:07.920
the word bearers are taking shots as well. Eventually

01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.699
Rathven manages to kill his brother. He basically

01:03:10.699 --> 01:03:13.559
has a like a wrestle with him in the skies as

01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.619
he's flying with wings. He pulls off his wings.

01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:19.460
He breaks his wings off. Then Arceo drops the

01:03:19.460 --> 01:03:22.539
spear and it lands like upright and it kind of

01:03:22.989 --> 01:03:25.849
points towards him and then as he falls from

01:03:25.849 --> 01:03:29.349
the sky it just straight for his body and like

01:03:29.349 --> 01:03:31.590
ralph has got a jump pack he's okay and then

01:03:31.590 --> 01:03:34.269
he realizes his error he's like i'm sorry the

01:03:34.269 --> 01:03:36.530
spears like purged the chaos corruption within

01:03:36.530 --> 01:03:38.869
me but i failed everyone please forgive me and

01:03:38.869 --> 01:03:41.070
he's like only the emperor can forgive you but

01:03:41.070 --> 01:03:44.829
for what it's worth i'm sorry as well and um

01:03:44.829 --> 01:03:48.289
also a weird weird fact you know that uh mephiston

01:03:48.289 --> 01:03:49.929
fell to the black rage during the second war

01:03:49.929 --> 01:03:53.199
for armageddon and he got over it He falls to

01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.340
the Black Rage again in this book. So he goes

01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:59.139
for number two. Raffan also falls to the Black

01:03:59.139 --> 01:04:02.320
Rage, but Raffan picks up the Spear of Telesto

01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:07.320
and he manages to activate it somehow. Is he

01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:09.800
a true son of Sanguinus? So the Black Rage is

01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.099
driven out of his body. And then all the Blood

01:04:13.099 --> 01:04:15.800
Angels are like... And they're fighting each

01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:20.440
other. That was my homage to that amazing meme

01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:22.929
of like... joey diaz and joe rogan talking about

01:04:22.929 --> 01:04:26.329
gorillas um but like um chimps eat the fuck out

01:04:26.329 --> 01:04:30.429
of monkeys yeah that one yeah and it's like and

01:04:30.429 --> 01:04:32.570
then rafan gets to mephiston and he unleashes

01:04:32.570 --> 01:04:34.750
he like he chucks archaeo's body off a cliff

01:04:34.750 --> 01:04:37.429
and he's like there's your messiah he was my

01:04:37.429 --> 01:04:39.849
brother and i loved him but he was he was a he

01:04:39.849 --> 01:04:42.349
wasn't a messiah and he uses the spear and it

01:04:42.349 --> 01:04:44.190
cleanses the black rage from mephiston and all

01:04:44.190 --> 01:04:48.110
the blood angels and the person's like oh that

01:04:48.110 --> 01:04:50.400
was quite impressive bro I'm going to see if

01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.440
we can get you to be sixth captain. And Raffan

01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:55.719
refuses. He's like, no, I'm fine as a sergeant.

01:04:55.719 --> 01:05:00.280
Thank you. And instead, he becomes the student

01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.219
of Mephiston. And he's not a psyker. But the

01:05:03.219 --> 01:05:05.460
two of them, for the rest of the omnibus, have

01:05:05.460 --> 01:05:07.019
a really interesting relationship. It was like,

01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:12.400
who's your new intern, Mephiston? Lord of Death.

01:05:12.420 --> 01:05:14.219
And he's like, he's a guy I met. And all the

01:05:14.219 --> 01:05:15.800
people are like, wait, you're being taught by

01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.340
Mephiston? You're not a psyker. He's like, shut

01:05:18.340 --> 01:05:21.909
up. I'm still cool. And I like their relationship

01:05:21.909 --> 01:05:26.929
with the blade. Yeah. And so I like that because

01:05:26.929 --> 01:05:28.710
Rafa is a really cool character as well. And

01:05:28.710 --> 01:05:30.670
there's more for his stuff. He meets Astaroth

01:05:30.670 --> 01:05:33.849
and Astaroth is all like, what do you mean you

01:05:33.849 --> 01:05:35.670
got cured of the black rage? Like Mephiston?

01:05:35.750 --> 01:05:38.429
I don't like psychos. And he has like a whole

01:05:38.429 --> 01:05:41.230
like trial where he, he tests, he like tests

01:05:41.230 --> 01:05:44.150
him out and stuff. It's quite funny. But before

01:05:44.150 --> 01:05:47.610
I talk about the next little bit. Yeah. Before

01:05:47.610 --> 01:05:50.010
we get any further. Yeah, because I got some

01:05:50.010 --> 01:05:52.710
more stuff. Thank you, chat. Thank you very much.

01:05:53.190 --> 01:06:00.110
Thank you. Grey boss thing for the $5. You get

01:06:00.110 --> 01:06:03.050
to be part of a faction in 40k. Lead it and kill

01:06:03.050 --> 01:06:06.670
one another, I assume that means. Oh, kill off

01:06:06.670 --> 01:06:08.949
another, is it? Oh, kill off another, yeah. Who

01:06:08.949 --> 01:06:13.469
do you choose? Insert your battle cry. Kill the

01:06:13.469 --> 01:06:16.469
custodians. Kill every last custodian. Or the

01:06:16.469 --> 01:06:20.500
votan, you know. I would join the White Scars

01:06:20.500 --> 01:06:23.039
and I would lead the hunt just to get rid of

01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:28.500
John Grimelicus. Not even a faction. That one

01:06:28.500 --> 01:06:34.619
guy. I don't know if Custodians should go away,

01:06:34.780 --> 01:06:35.820
but I don't know if they need to be their own

01:06:35.820 --> 01:06:37.800
faction. If they're incorporated into someone

01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:41.800
else's faction, that would be pretty good. I

01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:44.099
would immediately join the Tyranids so I could

01:06:44.099 --> 01:06:46.900
devour all of the leagues of Wotan as they deserve.

01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:52.900
And I could rightfully carve out that space for

01:06:52.900 --> 01:06:55.820
a much more interesting faction in the future.

01:06:56.420 --> 01:06:59.239
Hal just wants to gluck those digestion pools

01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.699
from the capillary towers, that's all. He just

01:07:01.699 --> 01:07:05.800
wants to go on a war too. Lead the Eldar to victory.

01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:08.820
Smash the Imperium. And then everyone left is

01:07:08.820 --> 01:07:11.920
only the big boys from the war in heaven. And

01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:15.340
I guess the Tower are here too. Hi. It'd probably

01:07:15.340 --> 01:07:17.539
be okay joining the Tower or the Imperium. One

01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:21.239
of the two. Maybe the Eldar. Eldar really don't

01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.199
have maybe the nicest intentions at mind most

01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:26.260
of the time, to be honest. And the Imperium does!

01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:29.980
At least they look it up for humanity. I'm assuming

01:07:29.980 --> 01:07:32.480
I'll be an Eldar if I'm joining the Eldar. I'm

01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:36.119
assuming I'm not just me. The Eldar, like, in

01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:41.539
Warhammer, when a race creates, like, if a Chaos

01:07:41.539 --> 01:07:43.980
God was made by a certain race, the human one

01:07:43.980 --> 01:07:46.280
was like that whole Dark King, and it's like,

01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:49.300
it's the God of Destruction. The Eldar's dark

01:07:49.300 --> 01:07:53.219
version of themselves is Slaanesh, the God of...

01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:58.480
You're evil. They won so hard that they didn't

01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:01.579
need to do anything anymore. What are their intentions?

01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:06.519
Please leave me alone. They literally alone,

01:08:06.900 --> 01:08:10.739
they alone jorked it so hard they created doom

01:08:10.739 --> 01:08:14.039
for the galaxy. Yeah, and the Dark King was just

01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:18.899
that with humans. I don't know. The Drukhari

01:08:18.899 --> 01:08:20.699
probably have several chairs made out of four

01:08:20.699 --> 01:08:23.239
skins. I'm like, I don't know. I know, Chief.

01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:25.260
I'm not happy with that. I'm not happy with that.

01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:28.579
In technically Indore, there's like an Eldar

01:08:28.579 --> 01:08:34.140
version of like Eldar Heresy. No, but as in like

01:08:34.140 --> 01:08:37.100
when the Birth of Slaanesh happened. Like their

01:08:37.100 --> 01:08:38.760
version of it. They have like a version of their

01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:40.760
own Horus Heresy that we don't know about. Well,

01:08:40.779 --> 01:08:42.920
it was probably just the Dark Eldar continuing

01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:47.659
on forward as if nothing had changed. Striking

01:08:47.659 --> 01:08:50.020
Scorpions, yeah. It'd be nice to be an Exodite.

01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.680
It'd be nice to be an Exodite. Still in the fields.

01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:56.020
But, I don't know, maybe it'd be cool to be a

01:08:56.020 --> 01:08:57.579
Grey Knight if Grey Knights didn't get, like,

01:08:57.600 --> 01:08:59.579
goofed on in lore and make comically evil all

01:08:59.579 --> 01:09:01.760
the time, but it'd still be nice to be Grey Knights,

01:09:01.859 --> 01:09:03.880
because then your main enemy is, like, the pure

01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:06.720
evil of the galaxy. And also innocent civilians

01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:10.239
sometimes, but... Zenon, but you heard it here

01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:12.859
first. Knights of Blood for the win, that is

01:09:12.859 --> 01:09:16.600
all. Very true. They were assholes, but they

01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:21.369
went out dying for the good cause. Colin, I think

01:09:21.369 --> 01:09:28.130
this is for Colin. Oh, boy. Bucket the blue with

01:09:28.130 --> 01:09:30.850
the 10 CA. Dreamt I'd been an evil version of

01:09:30.850 --> 01:09:34.229
Colin on my LGS. When I tried to play him, he

01:09:34.229 --> 01:09:36.710
crushed my custom overlord in his hand like a

01:09:36.710 --> 01:09:40.250
cartoon villain, called me a homophobic slur,

01:09:40.250 --> 01:09:42.829
and assaulted me till I woke up. That's real

01:09:42.829 --> 01:09:46.960
Colin. No, that just happened, man. Wow. That

01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:53.100
was like last week, right? Yeah. Same wavelength.

01:09:54.260 --> 01:09:59.180
Trash Fox Nurgle Woke Mind Virus? Thank you.

01:09:59.539 --> 01:10:03.779
Nice room. Nicer beard, Colin. Blood Angel Books,

01:10:04.020 --> 01:10:07.960
11. Space War for Books, 14+. Blood Angels got

01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:10.859
the worst model update. Space Wars got everything.

01:10:11.380 --> 01:10:14.500
Werewolves confirmed. That's real. That's pretty

01:10:14.500 --> 01:10:19.340
real. BW has confirmed Team Jacob. Space Wars

01:10:19.340 --> 01:10:22.180
now have the coolest Space Marine models in the

01:10:22.180 --> 01:10:29.000
game. At least in current age. You can do it.

01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.279
I believe in you. Donkey Man USA with the two

01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.960
bucks. No, Shinji, don't jork into the apothecary.

01:10:36.289 --> 01:10:38.949
Guards out of my way. I need to make an Evangelion

01:10:38.949 --> 01:10:45.329
reference. Caleb Collins, an OG. Thank you for

01:10:45.329 --> 01:10:49.069
the $2. Elf Simp looks like Shinji's dad from

01:10:49.069 --> 01:10:52.649
Eva Uwu. Elf Simp is in Holland. I don't know

01:10:52.649 --> 01:10:55.229
enough about him. Apparently he's an asshole.

01:10:55.310 --> 01:11:01.649
That's literally all I got. Caleb Collins, again,

01:11:02.029 --> 01:11:06.850
for $5 ,887 for $5. I appreciate that, man. The

01:11:06.850 --> 01:11:13.609
Skaven could tunnel into $40 ,000 and bring Tyranids

01:11:13.609 --> 01:11:16.869
to Sigmar, making it even more $40 ,000 and giving

01:11:16.869 --> 01:11:21.350
$40 ,000 sporty, bigger rats. Oo -woo, war crimes

01:11:21.350 --> 01:11:27.739
are for elves. Okay, thank you. I knew going

01:11:27.739 --> 01:11:31.079
in. I like the faction. No one else does. I accept

01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.399
it. That's just life for me. It is what it is.

01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:37.100
Thank you for the five. Eli, you've become a

01:11:37.100 --> 01:11:39.340
Necron Pharaon. Full memory of what you know

01:11:39.340 --> 01:11:42.500
now. What do you do? What would be your goal?

01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:46.979
Unite the Dynasties, of course. Maybe that's

01:11:46.979 --> 01:11:50.819
second. Find my wife. If this is just like 40k

01:11:50.819 --> 01:11:54.970
universe, though. Unite the Dynasties. Reclaim

01:11:54.970 --> 01:11:57.850
the galaxy to the rightful rulers of the Necron,

01:11:57.970 --> 01:12:02.489
of course. Damn, bro. Bro, you've got to betray

01:12:02.489 --> 01:12:07.789
us all. Yeah, okay. He's just going the robots.

01:12:08.130 --> 01:12:10.510
I'm going the 40 years. If I'm a Necron, I've

01:12:10.510 --> 01:12:12.090
got the Necron mindset, probably. Fuck being

01:12:12.090 --> 01:12:16.609
a human in 40k. No, thank you. I wouldn't want

01:12:16.609 --> 01:12:20.170
to enslave all of humanity or kill them all.

01:12:21.289 --> 01:12:24.590
Fake Beelzebub, man. Yeah, I know, right? I know.

01:12:25.130 --> 01:12:28.829
So following the Blood Angels Civil War, we've

01:12:28.829 --> 01:12:30.810
been, as we've mentioned earlier, like the parts,

01:12:30.909 --> 01:12:32.689
you're probably thinking, what is all this leading

01:12:32.689 --> 01:12:35.189
up to? We mentioned parts with Dante meeting

01:12:35.189 --> 01:12:38.029
Xenos. We've mentioned parts where there's been

01:12:38.029 --> 01:12:40.250
this Blood Angels Civil War. We mentioned things

01:12:40.250 --> 01:12:42.810
about Tyranid High Fleet. It's because the big

01:12:42.810 --> 01:12:45.170
Blood Angels, like 41st Millennium plotline,

01:12:45.310 --> 01:12:47.810
is essentially to do with them fighting the Tyranids,

01:12:47.909 --> 01:12:50.630
because I believe it's Leviathan, isn't it, Andy?

01:12:50.789 --> 01:12:54.510
Leviathan is like... you know what fuck these

01:12:54.510 --> 01:12:57.470
guys in particular i'm not joking the hive mind

01:12:57.470 --> 01:13:00.010
literally goes screw the blood angels starts

01:13:00.010 --> 01:13:03.029
ignoring worlds and goes yeah let's let's kill

01:13:03.029 --> 01:13:07.090
them and beelines it for their home system the

01:13:07.090 --> 01:13:09.170
birthplace or not the birthplace but the home

01:13:09.170 --> 01:13:12.869
world of their beloved sanguineous ball and all

01:13:12.869 --> 01:13:18.640
of its moons yeah um and and and To give you

01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:20.399
an idea, this is the same year that everything

01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:23.319
bad ever happens in Warhammer. It's 999 M41.

01:13:24.220 --> 01:13:26.680
You've got, obviously, Cadia is under siege.

01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:29.159
Got Baal having a tough time. And, of course,

01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:32.100
the most important event of the 999 M41, the

01:13:32.100 --> 01:13:34.579
battle for Chagoris, which is a real shame. Red

01:13:34.579 --> 01:13:37.260
Corsairs attacking my boy Jagatai's homeland.

01:13:39.350 --> 01:13:42.930
to give you an idea it's i believe over a decade

01:13:42.930 --> 01:13:47.170
that the leviathan is venturing very slowly towards

01:13:47.170 --> 01:13:49.729
baal and the blood angels when they assemble

01:13:49.729 --> 01:13:52.789
are all like that's really weird because i've

01:13:52.789 --> 01:13:55.149
had people in my i did tyrannous recently and

01:13:55.149 --> 01:13:58.770
they're like um actually tyrannous only care

01:13:58.770 --> 01:14:01.050
about eating they don't have like emotions i'm

01:14:01.050 --> 01:14:03.789
like Well, here they did, actually. Yeah, it

01:14:03.789 --> 01:14:05.590
stays in the book, doesn't it? It stays in the

01:14:05.590 --> 01:14:08.149
book. And also they're like, you said hive minds.

01:14:08.470 --> 01:14:10.430
There's only one hive mind. And there's a bit

01:14:10.430 --> 01:14:12.630
in this book where also Mephiston says, maybe

01:14:12.630 --> 01:14:15.229
it's one. Maybe there's many. We know there's

01:14:15.229 --> 01:14:17.010
a hive fleet that eats another hive fleet. So

01:14:17.010 --> 01:14:20.710
I'm like, yeah. But yeah, so Devastation of Baal.

01:14:21.150 --> 01:14:23.989
Obviously, the Tyranids see the Blood Angels

01:14:23.989 --> 01:14:26.510
specifically as a threat, which is weird because

01:14:26.510 --> 01:14:28.409
the last two wars, it was the Ultramarines that

01:14:28.409 --> 01:14:31.189
were getting in their business. But something

01:14:31.189 --> 01:14:32.529
about the Blood Angels is like, oh, we've got

01:14:32.529 --> 01:14:34.149
to get rid of these guys. These are a bad, bad

01:14:34.149 --> 01:14:38.510
thing. And so, like we said before with Eli and

01:14:38.510 --> 01:14:40.890
I talking about Anrakir, there were the Shield

01:14:40.890 --> 01:14:42.949
Worlds of Cryptus, which were like a bulwark

01:14:42.949 --> 01:14:46.090
to kind of slow down the advance. And originally,

01:14:46.109 --> 01:14:48.210
it was a bunch of mortals. They all died. And

01:14:48.210 --> 01:14:49.810
then Dante and the Flesh Terrors went up and

01:14:49.810 --> 01:14:52.529
they're like, oh, no. They destroyed the entire

01:14:52.529 --> 01:14:56.289
system in three days. What? Three days? I was

01:14:56.289 --> 01:14:59.350
like, yep, not a good time. And so they did the

01:14:59.350 --> 01:15:00.729
whole thing where they blew up the sun and it

01:15:00.729 --> 01:15:03.170
killed loads of Tyranids. But then there's another

01:15:03.170 --> 01:15:05.829
tendril going around the maelstrom towards Baal.

01:15:05.949 --> 01:15:08.229
And so Dante has already sent a message before

01:15:08.229 --> 01:15:10.670
he went to the crypto system to all of the successors

01:15:10.670 --> 01:15:15.430
of the Blood Angels and went, hey, boys, we don't

01:15:15.430 --> 01:15:21.500
necessarily all seem eye to eye, but... Sanguinis'

01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:25.880
home is about to be, like, eaten. I need you.

01:15:25.939 --> 01:15:28.380
Come back. Come home. Come home. We'll put on

01:15:28.380 --> 01:15:31.199
a good spread. We'll let bygones be bygones,

01:15:31.220 --> 01:15:35.779
and we'll defend Baal. And, like, the flesh terrorists,

01:15:35.899 --> 01:15:40.479
for example, they're on a very bad footing. The

01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:43.920
main chaplain, Apollos, has a big argument with

01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:46.760
Seth on a chaos -infested world where he abandons

01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:48.279
a bunch of men because he gets the call, and

01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.630
he's like... oh, you're his lap dog now. He's

01:15:50.630 --> 01:15:52.189
like, if you say that again in front of the men,

01:15:52.310 --> 01:15:54.130
I'm going to kill you where you stand. It's like,

01:15:54.250 --> 01:16:00.149
oh, Seth. He really would, though. Seth is a

01:16:00.149 --> 01:16:02.489
bulldog. He would rip a guy's throat out with

01:16:02.489 --> 01:16:07.369
his teeth. Yeah. His nickname is Princess. Like

01:16:07.369 --> 01:16:13.250
the pit bull princess. And to compound the woes

01:16:13.250 --> 01:16:15.090
of the blood angels, this isn't going to be just

01:16:15.090 --> 01:16:18.449
a Tyranid battle. There's also portents in the

01:16:18.449 --> 01:16:20.770
warp that Mephiston are seeing that Khorne and

01:16:20.770 --> 01:16:23.590
Cabanda from that Cygnus Prime book, the Angelbane,

01:16:23.789 --> 01:16:26.850
is like, I'm going to wait until you're at your

01:16:26.850 --> 01:16:29.850
lowest, and I'm going to get me some skulls,

01:16:29.850 --> 01:16:33.130
baby. Yes, all the threads are coming together

01:16:33.130 --> 01:16:36.420
from this video. They're all converging. And

01:16:36.420 --> 01:16:38.600
so there's the whole thing of like, right, we've

01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:40.340
got maybe like 20 chapters of the blood making

01:16:40.340 --> 01:16:42.300
their way. Lamenters couldn't make it because

01:16:42.300 --> 01:16:45.119
they're rubbish. Atlantean spears outright refuse.

01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:47.420
They're like, we're not coming to save you. Screw

01:16:47.420 --> 01:16:50.220
off. You deal with it. Oh, thanks, guys. You

01:16:50.220 --> 01:16:52.180
don't even have a red color palette. You're stuck.

01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:58.119
Boo. Boo armor. Get burnt. And one thing that

01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.300
I think it was Graham McNeil who did Devastation

01:17:01.300 --> 01:17:05.380
of Baal. Kai Haley. Guy Haley, Guy Haley, Guy

01:17:05.380 --> 01:17:07.279
Haley and Graham McNeil are like the goats when

01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.180
it comes to like adding like layers to the law.

01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:14.119
And he had a problem with this book is like,

01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:17.819
well, we've got Mephiston in this campaign. He's

01:17:17.819 --> 01:17:20.840
overpowered as fuck. If he's in the devastation

01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:22.680
of bar, he'll just be. And then he flew into

01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:25.340
the battlefield and killed a billion Tyranids

01:17:25.340 --> 01:17:27.619
and he slowed down time. So you got this, this

01:17:27.619 --> 01:17:29.920
one guy you've got to get rid of in order to

01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:33.489
make a fun story. and in the devastation of Baal,

01:17:33.550 --> 01:17:35.109
there's a bit where they obviously prepare defences,

01:17:35.229 --> 01:17:37.329
they get all the blood angel successes, and then

01:17:37.329 --> 01:17:39.109
Mephiston actually goes into a place called the

01:17:39.109 --> 01:17:42.569
Carceri Arcanum, which is his secret librarian

01:17:42.569 --> 01:17:45.970
vault. Oh, this is the part where most people...

01:17:45.970 --> 01:17:48.590
Because if we talk about Baal itself, there's

01:17:48.590 --> 01:17:52.270
lots of ancient... We mentioned before ancient

01:17:52.270 --> 01:17:56.310
tombs, corridors, there's places where... What's

01:17:56.310 --> 01:17:59.010
that part where it has the two guardians, Andy?

01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:01.699
and they're like they're not blood angels but

01:18:01.699 --> 01:18:04.020
they're they're like blood angels and they're

01:18:04.020 --> 01:18:06.220
just two random guardians of like the librarians

01:18:06.220 --> 01:18:09.739
their actual hold and they just stand vigil and

01:18:09.739 --> 01:18:11.819
even dante has to ask permission to come in and

01:18:11.819 --> 01:18:14.920
they're like really weird like two yeah vigilant

01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:18.239
they have blacks they're like sanguinary god

01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:20.180
but they wear black armor and they have wings

01:18:20.180 --> 01:18:21.600
i can't remember what they're called exactly

01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:25.920
um but they are there yeah a few weird things

01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:27.579
on baal though but this one is a particularly

01:18:28.470 --> 01:18:32.250
one that's only in a few like Mephiston and Dante

01:18:32.250 --> 01:18:35.890
books isn't it yeah and and so Mephiston's like

01:18:35.890 --> 01:18:39.090
oh I've been having a dreamy dream in my coffin

01:18:39.090 --> 01:18:41.770
and I got a bit like he there's like a passage

01:18:41.770 --> 01:18:44.149
where he kills all the serfs when he's like he's

01:18:44.149 --> 01:18:45.789
in like a kind of dream state and he wakes up

01:18:45.789 --> 01:18:47.869
and all the attendants like more wine sir and

01:18:47.869 --> 01:18:49.710
he's like ah and he just kills them all and then

01:18:49.710 --> 01:18:52.029
he wakes up he's like what have I done not again

01:18:52.029 --> 01:18:55.210
and he's like oh I saw a vision of Cabanda that's

01:18:55.210 --> 01:18:58.920
not good He's like Khorne's number one guy. Well,

01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:00.779
number two guy, but that's a different story.

01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:03.579
So he's like, I need to confirm this is going

01:19:03.579 --> 01:19:06.100
to happen because if I ignore this, we're all

01:19:06.100 --> 01:19:08.359
doomed. But if it's not true and it's just a

01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:10.539
trick, I'm going to be chasing my tail. So he

01:19:10.539 --> 01:19:13.000
goes into this kind of crypt where you've got

01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.279
the librarian and then there's like another layer.

01:19:15.739 --> 01:19:19.029
It's called the Carceri Arcanum. and inside is

01:19:19.029 --> 01:19:20.489
all the weird stuff they have like they've got

01:19:20.489 --> 01:19:23.329
a sword that can kill any being but if you use

01:19:23.329 --> 01:19:25.909
it you will instantly get the black rage because

01:19:25.909 --> 01:19:29.449
it's cursed cool um they have the panoply of

01:19:29.449 --> 01:19:32.989
previous chapter master araclius who did such

01:19:32.989 --> 01:19:35.909
bad stuff they redacted all memory of him in

01:19:35.909 --> 01:19:37.609
the chapter because he was a really bad dude

01:19:37.609 --> 01:19:40.739
so No idea what he did. You've got the skull

01:19:40.739 --> 01:19:42.880
of the homunculus of Baal, which almost destroyed

01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:44.960
the Blood Angels chapter. You've got relics of

01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.899
Old Knight. You've got imprisoned Necron overlords

01:19:47.899 --> 01:19:50.060
who are in stasis prisons, and they've been there

01:19:50.060 --> 01:19:52.260
for ages. You've got cursed banners, demonic

01:19:52.260 --> 01:19:56.520
blades, even staffs of, like, fragments of staffs

01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.880
which can tear wrens in the immaterium. And in

01:19:59.880 --> 01:20:02.899
the heart of this place is a place called the

01:20:02.899 --> 01:20:05.960
Vault of Marest, and it is overseen by a former

01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:10.000
chief librarian. Dreadnought Lord Marist. Now,

01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.279
Marist is a dreadnought. He's a big fella. They

01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:16.699
built the vault around him because he was a powerful

01:20:16.699 --> 01:20:19.880
dude 3 ,000 years ago. They made a war tomb around

01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:22.500
his chassis so he can never leave. And he just

01:20:22.500 --> 01:20:25.680
sits there with his big power axe. And he's older

01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:29.000
than Dante. And so he vowed to guard the chapter

01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.380
from an enemy who wounded him and put him in

01:20:31.380 --> 01:20:34.039
a dreadnought 3 ,000 years ago, which is called

01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:37.750
the Octocalverii. And this thing has been chained

01:20:37.750 --> 01:20:40.229
up in the basement for 3000 years with no food.

01:20:40.590 --> 01:20:44.510
You can see its ribs quite well. And it's really

01:20:44.510 --> 01:20:49.229
creepy, isn't it? Well, yeah, it's got like six

01:20:49.229 --> 01:20:52.010
limbs. It's corrupted by chaos. So it has eight

01:20:52.010 --> 01:20:54.789
faces and each face has six eyes and it's got

01:20:54.789 --> 01:20:57.930
like gill like noses and a proboscis for a mouth

01:20:57.930 --> 01:21:00.829
on all of its eight faces. And it's a weird Xenos.

01:21:00.850 --> 01:21:03.039
That's the last of its species. It's corrupted

01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.819
by chaos, very much so, but it can't be killed.

01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:08.399
And they've tried. That's the funny part, isn't

01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:10.399
it? They mentioned that they tried everything

01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:13.420
and they just can't seem to kill it. In this

01:21:13.420 --> 01:21:15.800
chamber, there's like 12 really powerful things

01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.899
that they just can't kill. So they just stuck

01:21:18.899 --> 01:21:20.560
them in the basement and just chained them up.

01:21:21.979 --> 01:21:26.279
Hoarders. And also, this is also near the Ecclesia

01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:28.619
Obscura, which is the home of the 15 Scrolls

01:21:28.619 --> 01:21:30.699
of Sanguinius, where when he was having visions

01:21:30.699 --> 01:21:33.239
during the 30th millennium, he wrote down a lot

01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:35.159
of stuff about what he saw, one of the things

01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:40.439
being the devastation of Baal. And Dante, Mephiston

01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:44.000
has a quick exchange with the creature, and I'll

01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:48.279
read it out for you now if you'd like. A sip

01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:51.359
of energy juice. A bit of wine. A sip of blood

01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:56.220
wine. Gotta recharge. Yeah, it says, I am Mephiston,

01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:58.199
chief librarian of the Blood Angels, the Lord

01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:01.039
of Death. A fitting name for one such as you.

01:22:01.180 --> 01:22:03.720
Its multiple eyes blink together. You are the

01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:05.340
successor to the one who killed my followers

01:22:05.340 --> 01:22:08.739
and caged me. I am. Many generations removed.

01:22:09.060 --> 01:22:11.819
You have been here a long time. For preaching

01:22:11.819 --> 01:22:14.279
the truth of reality to your people, you kill

01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:17.779
and enslave. You call me monster. You who hunger

01:22:17.779 --> 01:22:20.789
for the blood of your own kind. You are the enslaver.

01:22:20.970 --> 01:22:23.470
By Warpcraft, you subjugated the free imperial

01:22:23.470 --> 01:22:26.029
systems and seduced their inhabitants away from

01:22:26.029 --> 01:22:28.149
the life of the Emperor and damned them all for

01:22:28.149 --> 01:22:30.890
eternity. Your confinement here is just. We would

01:22:30.890 --> 01:22:34.789
kill you if we could. You cannot. The Dark Lords

01:22:34.789 --> 01:22:37.189
make me strong. Have you come here to gloat?

01:22:37.229 --> 01:22:40.369
If you have, enjoy it. I shall one day be free

01:22:40.369 --> 01:22:42.930
of this place. I will be merciful to those who

01:22:42.930 --> 01:22:46.109
show me respect. I have no need to gloat, and

01:22:46.109 --> 01:22:48.130
you shall never escape. I have come instead to

01:22:48.130 --> 01:22:51.569
seek your wisdom, evil as it is. That is amusing.

01:22:52.250 --> 01:22:55.810
A great darkness approaches Baal. I see it. A

01:22:55.810 --> 01:22:58.529
blankness in the sea of souls. An unending hunger

01:22:58.529 --> 01:23:01.529
comes. It desires to consume you. Your hungers

01:23:01.529 --> 01:23:03.729
are similar. Do you not see it as a kindred spirit?

01:23:04.470 --> 01:23:06.850
There is something else. Another event is soon

01:23:06.850 --> 01:23:09.090
to occur. Not of the material realm, but of the

01:23:09.090 --> 01:23:11.770
warp. I have seen it in a vision, but will have

01:23:11.770 --> 01:23:15.649
confirmation before I act. And you want me to

01:23:15.649 --> 01:23:18.930
help you. You will help me. Then release me.

01:23:19.470 --> 01:23:21.829
And perhaps I may accommodate your desires before

01:23:21.829 --> 01:23:26.149
I kill you. I never said I needed your active

01:23:26.149 --> 01:23:28.930
participation. And then like Mephiston, he drives

01:23:28.930 --> 01:23:31.369
Vitaris into the ground before the alien Psyker

01:23:31.369 --> 01:23:33.989
and reaches out his hands towards it. Red fire

01:23:33.989 --> 01:23:36.310
flickering around his fingers. He bent the creature's

01:23:36.310 --> 01:23:38.430
mind to his will, but it fought him all the way.

01:23:38.510 --> 01:23:40.359
And for a moment... Mephiston feared that he

01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:42.000
had attempted a task he could not accomplish,

01:23:42.140 --> 01:23:44.180
and that the being would overwhelm him. With

01:23:44.180 --> 01:23:46.399
a psychic shout, he pushed hard, battering the

01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:49.779
Octocalvary into submission. The creature was

01:23:49.779 --> 01:23:51.579
a worshipper of chaos in its formless glory,

01:23:51.779 --> 01:23:54.180
and it was many thousands of years old. Who knew

01:23:54.180 --> 01:23:55.800
what worlds it had ruined and how many species

01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:58.020
it had corrupted? At the heart of its power,

01:23:58.140 --> 01:23:59.619
it had been a prophet of incredible accuracy.

01:24:00.020 --> 01:24:02.340
Its link to the Imperium was still strong, and

01:24:02.340 --> 01:24:04.100
Mephiston rode this as a warrior from a backward

01:24:04.100 --> 01:24:06.560
world might attempt to master an unbroken steed.

01:24:06.819 --> 01:24:09.369
The Xenos mind bucked. and thrashed in its psychic

01:24:09.369 --> 01:24:11.729
grasp, and he did not relent. And though the

01:24:11.729 --> 01:24:14.029
creature's many unholy eyes looked upon the realm

01:24:14.029 --> 01:24:16.149
of chaos and the myriad possibilities forming

01:24:16.149 --> 01:24:19.949
there, a billion horrible images burned into

01:24:19.949 --> 01:24:22.949
his second sight. He sifted through them quickly.

01:24:23.310 --> 01:24:25.130
Carbanda's lust for the souls of the blood angels

01:24:25.130 --> 01:24:27.930
shone readily bright. Mephiston honed in on the

01:24:27.930 --> 01:24:29.470
greater demon's essence with little difficulty.

01:24:29.770 --> 01:24:31.890
For a brief moment, he saw the demon battling

01:24:31.890 --> 01:24:34.720
still. battle still raging. The red angel burned

01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:37.399
with furious fires. Cabanda was with a spear's

01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:39.399
cast of the gate. He was coming to the material

01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:42.199
realm. The bloodthirster paused in its carnage,

01:24:42.300 --> 01:24:45.220
turned and looked towards Mephiston directly

01:24:45.220 --> 01:24:49.340
in the eye. Cabanda's bellow sent the Lord of

01:24:49.340 --> 01:24:51.640
Death flying backwards, trailing flames he slammed

01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:55.819
into the wall of the Octocalvary cell. That is

01:24:55.819 --> 01:24:58.500
what you wanted to know. Had you told me, I would

01:24:58.500 --> 01:25:00.739
have shown you willingly. There is no finer thing

01:25:00.739 --> 01:25:02.640
than presenting a being with truth of its own

01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:05.479
death. The Neverborn you call Carbanda will come

01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:08.680
for you, so -called Lord of Death. He will take

01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:10.819
your mortal skull for his drinking cup, and your

01:25:10.819 --> 01:25:13.180
soul shall join his armies and throw down this

01:25:13.180 --> 01:25:16.380
Imperium you pretend to love. Mephiston recovered

01:25:16.380 --> 01:25:18.800
himself and took up Vitaris. Those are lies.

01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:22.699
Are they? You will see. There is a darkness in

01:25:22.699 --> 01:25:25.539
you that eclipses my own, Lord of Death. Let

01:25:25.539 --> 01:25:29.000
me free, so I may see you fall. You will remain

01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:32.100
here. Be assured, if it were possible, I would

01:25:32.100 --> 01:25:36.739
slay you. One day, you will be my ally. Never,

01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:40.399
said Mephiston. And that's just like a cool exchange

01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:44.520
with, like, a Chaos Sinos thingy, a gribbly thingy

01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:48.489
that lives in the basement. Big ups for pronouncing

01:25:48.489 --> 01:25:52.390
the name correctly more than once. I stumbled

01:25:52.390 --> 01:25:54.350
a few times. That was tricky. It's so annoying.

01:25:54.609 --> 01:25:56.850
Whenever it comes up, when people think about

01:25:56.850 --> 01:25:59.149
it, I always stumble on its bloody name, like

01:25:59.149 --> 01:26:02.789
Octavilli something. Look, who here among us

01:26:02.789 --> 01:26:04.409
doesn't have something chained in their basement?

01:26:05.550 --> 01:26:08.029
I mean, some of us don't look like we would.

01:26:08.949 --> 01:26:12.529
What do you mean by that? What do you mean by

01:26:12.529 --> 01:26:14.729
that? Surely we don't look like any of us here

01:26:14.729 --> 01:26:16.810
would do that. Yeah, it's always the ones you

01:26:16.810 --> 01:26:20.670
least expect. I don't have a basement. I can't

01:26:20.670 --> 01:26:22.850
do nothing in there. We're not the kind of fellows

01:26:22.850 --> 01:26:27.729
who would do that. No. I mean, if Hal saw a poor

01:26:27.729 --> 01:26:31.310
person, he might, but still. Oh, God. We got

01:26:31.310 --> 01:26:33.010
a Hal hates poor people before you even said

01:26:33.010 --> 01:26:36.729
that in the chat. God forbid someone have a GIMP

01:26:36.729 --> 01:26:43.899
dungeon. chaos mephiston would be cool i'd like

01:26:43.899 --> 01:26:47.960
that he's comically op so well they have like

01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:49.579
a weird mythology thing where there's like an

01:26:49.579 --> 01:26:52.079
angel of light and darkness and there's like

01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:54.319
they're always struggling for the soul of the

01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:56.260
blood angels yeah do you want to briefly touch

01:26:56.260 --> 01:26:59.579
on that how oh yes because it's it's a part which

01:26:59.579 --> 01:27:03.060
is i technically it's throughout all of bar's

01:27:03.060 --> 01:27:05.859
history which It's a thing with the warp where

01:27:05.859 --> 01:27:08.779
the warp is, as like with the birth of Sonesh,

01:27:08.859 --> 01:27:13.180
it therefore becomes not constrained by time

01:27:13.180 --> 01:27:16.180
itself. So once Sonesh is born, Sonesh has always

01:27:16.180 --> 01:27:19.399
existed and technically could alter the past,

01:27:19.539 --> 01:27:22.140
but it's really difficult to do so. It would

01:27:22.140 --> 01:27:24.039
be like, you know what I mean? Like the warp

01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:28.079
is not vulnerable at certain times, but the very

01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:32.149
act of... essentially the blood angels existence

01:27:32.149 --> 01:27:35.170
weirdly enough created their it's like a weird

01:27:35.170 --> 01:27:38.210
time loop where they create their own like symmetry

01:27:38.210 --> 01:27:41.250
and perhaps even what was I guess the part maybe

01:27:41.250 --> 01:27:43.229
not everyone knows is like the origins of the

01:27:43.229 --> 01:27:48.649
black rage because the within the warp which

01:27:48.649 --> 01:27:52.229
is I think Mephiston sees this personally in

01:27:52.229 --> 01:27:56.369
his own novels even in yeah in a later novel

01:27:56.369 --> 01:27:59.289
which is there are two angels that are battling

01:27:59.289 --> 01:28:03.789
over. There are two wolves inside you. There

01:28:03.789 --> 01:28:06.270
are two things in your walls, but there are two

01:28:06.270 --> 01:28:10.649
angels within the warp that battle in the space

01:28:10.649 --> 01:28:14.090
where Baal exists. There is one angel of light,

01:28:14.130 --> 01:28:17.130
of gold, of all the things that is good to do

01:28:17.130 --> 01:28:19.689
with the chapter and the legion of the, or the

01:28:19.689 --> 01:28:22.829
line, you know, the bloodline of the blood angels.

01:28:22.970 --> 01:28:25.649
And then there's an angel of darkness, of death,

01:28:25.770 --> 01:28:28.979
of it is the, embodiment of the black range and

01:28:28.979 --> 01:28:31.960
these two angels continuously essentially battle

01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.779
for the soul of all the blood angels and their

01:28:35.779 --> 01:28:39.180
successors and throughout time especially towards

01:28:39.180 --> 01:28:42.680
the 41st millennium the angel in gold is not

01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:46.380
winning the angel of darkness is stronger and

01:28:46.380 --> 01:28:50.899
the angel of gold has an avatar which is essentially

01:28:51.899 --> 01:28:54.600
shown to us to be the sanguine or which is again

01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:56.060
we haven't really touched on the sanguine necessarily

01:28:56.060 --> 01:28:58.880
but people are somewhat familiar with the sanguine

01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:02.359
or as the almost like the living embodiment of

01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:04.699
sanguineous as well but it's not sanguineous

01:29:04.699 --> 01:29:07.619
it is like essentially a herald of him it is

01:29:07.619 --> 01:29:10.939
some people think it might be ascalon who was

01:29:10.939 --> 01:29:13.920
the sanguinary guard captain in the horus heresy

01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.260
but that's not confirmed it could be anyone who

01:29:16.260 --> 01:29:18.840
knows we're not sure it is a mysterious figure

01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:23.609
that often shows up in the Blood Angel's most

01:29:23.609 --> 01:29:26.250
dire times of need, and it aids the chapter.

01:29:26.609 --> 01:29:30.829
It is not a being that necessarily speaks other

01:29:30.829 --> 01:29:34.189
than one time ever, and that was to Dante to

01:29:34.189 --> 01:29:37.029
say there is still hope, when Dante almost wanted

01:29:37.029 --> 01:29:40.369
to give up before fighting on the devastation

01:29:40.369 --> 01:29:46.170
of Baal. But the Gold Angel has the avatar in,

01:29:46.270 --> 01:29:48.890
well, an embodiment of itself, which is the Sanguinal,

01:29:49.090 --> 01:29:52.279
but the Angel of Darkness does not. And to help

01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:58.619
essentially extend the fight against the Angel

01:29:58.619 --> 01:30:01.359
of Darkness and not let the Black Rage take over

01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:04.260
all the Sons of Sanguinius, Mephiston will at

01:30:04.260 --> 01:30:08.159
some point later agree to become a mirror image

01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:10.500
of the Sanguinal, and in tandem he becomes the

01:30:10.500 --> 01:30:13.239
avatar of the Angel of Darkness. It will doom

01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:17.260
him, but it buys time for all of the chapters

01:30:17.260 --> 01:30:20.439
of the blood. And it's a very weird part where...

01:30:20.890 --> 01:30:24.090
Because this thing happens, it explains that

01:30:24.090 --> 01:30:27.210
it actually influences all of time. So whoever,

01:30:27.329 --> 01:30:30.569
whatever Xenos race lived on Baal long before

01:30:30.569 --> 01:30:34.029
humans ever ventured there, it explains that

01:30:34.029 --> 01:30:36.050
they would have most likely developed a culture

01:30:36.050 --> 01:30:38.930
of light and dark, of like angels of lights and

01:30:38.930 --> 01:30:43.130
darkness. Whoever exists on Baal long when humans

01:30:43.130 --> 01:30:46.189
are dead will similarly be influenced subtly

01:30:46.189 --> 01:30:48.470
by the warp in the same way. So it's a really

01:30:48.470 --> 01:30:52.689
weird. I guess, yeah, it's like the Blood Angels

01:30:52.689 --> 01:30:54.750
create a wound in the warp that will forever

01:30:54.750 --> 01:30:57.930
influence any culture that comes to exist on

01:30:57.930 --> 01:31:00.930
the Baal system, which is very interesting, I

01:31:00.930 --> 01:31:03.409
think. It's a very cool part, which is, again,

01:31:03.529 --> 01:31:06.149
not very, it's not exactly surface level lore

01:31:06.149 --> 01:31:09.010
things, but I hope people do appreciate that

01:31:09.010 --> 01:31:11.930
it's pretty, I guess to tell you, it also maybe

01:31:11.930 --> 01:31:13.930
somewhat explains that the Black Rage itself

01:31:13.930 --> 01:31:18.340
is a psychic wound. It's not a gene flaw necessarily

01:31:18.340 --> 01:31:21.399
like the Red Thirst might be. It is a wound of

01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:24.479
Sanguinus' death and it mixes in with this sort

01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:27.140
of mythology of these two angels, you know, like

01:31:27.140 --> 01:31:29.119
literally like, you know, the devil on your one

01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:31.460
shoulder, the angel on your other one, sort of,

01:31:31.460 --> 01:31:33.720
you know, two things battling for the greater

01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:37.600
control of the inner body. It's cool stuff, cool

01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:41.659
stuff. A question, a question. I remember arguing

01:31:41.659 --> 01:31:43.840
with someone about this like four years ago when

01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:47.170
I first started doing Warhammer stuff. Did the

01:31:47.170 --> 01:31:50.010
Black Rage happen during the Horus Heresy as

01:31:50.010 --> 01:31:51.829
well, because it transcended space and time?

01:31:52.470 --> 01:31:56.949
It's basically immediately after Sanguinus' death.

01:31:57.630 --> 01:32:02.149
But not before. But isn't the Ragefire like a

01:32:02.149 --> 01:32:04.590
catalyst for the Black Rage as well? It's like

01:32:04.590 --> 01:32:08.390
Erebus' shenanigans. Maybe it's a thing where

01:32:08.390 --> 01:32:12.029
the actual full -on Black Rage I think happens

01:32:12.029 --> 01:32:14.869
after Sanguinus' death, but it shows there's

01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:18.640
I think you are correct in assuming like the,

01:32:18.739 --> 01:32:22.460
the fact like it basically like the psychic wound

01:32:22.460 --> 01:32:25.020
at some point is born and therefore the black

01:32:25.020 --> 01:32:28.479
rage always exists. And therefore, you know,

01:32:28.500 --> 01:32:30.739
it's mostly people doing, they have like do like

01:32:30.739 --> 01:32:32.779
the red thirst or like there's a floor within

01:32:32.779 --> 01:32:37.340
sanguineous. It could be like that. The floor

01:32:37.340 --> 01:32:39.640
of like an inner rage is turned into the black

01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:43.060
rage or the black rage always existed. And therefore.

01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:47.260
the warp subtly influences the Dark Angels to

01:32:47.260 --> 01:32:49.319
be vulnerable to it throughout time, but then

01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:52.720
once... Sorry, not Blood Angels, throughout time,

01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:55.220
but then once obviously Sanguini has died, it's

01:32:55.220 --> 01:32:59.180
like, oh yeah, it's like turned up to 11. It's

01:32:59.180 --> 01:33:01.020
not an easy question to answer, funny enough,

01:33:01.060 --> 01:33:04.640
actually. Now I think about it. Up for debate,

01:33:04.739 --> 01:33:05.840
though. It's up for debate. I could be wrong.

01:33:06.659 --> 01:33:09.279
It's up for interpretation, at least, I think.

01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:11.819
Alternatively, some people just get whack diseases

01:33:11.819 --> 01:33:16.010
and it just happens. Yeah. He died really hard.

01:33:16.390 --> 01:33:18.789
Like the Raven Guard have the ultra -depression

01:33:18.789 --> 01:33:20.850
thing during the Horus Heresy, and I don't remember

01:33:20.850 --> 01:33:24.090
it being mentioned much after. Umbral... What's

01:33:24.090 --> 01:33:27.109
it called? I didn't even realise they had a Genesee

01:33:27.109 --> 01:33:30.130
floor until I read that Korax book. A Genesee

01:33:30.130 --> 01:33:32.689
floor where they become super depressed. They've

01:33:32.689 --> 01:33:34.869
got Sable blindness as well. Sable blindness

01:33:34.869 --> 01:33:38.430
and something else. Yeah. He's just like, what's

01:33:38.430 --> 01:33:41.880
wrong? He's just like, I'm sad. Imperial Fists

01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:44.079
have terrible head game because they can't spit.

01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:48.359
I feel like they'd have good head game because

01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:51.079
they're not going to melt it off. Imperial Fists

01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:53.920
have the stubborn gene where it's just like their

01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:56.199
gene curses. They'll be like, I'm going to commit

01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:58.300
to the suicide mission. It's like, why? It's

01:33:58.300 --> 01:34:01.140
like, because I'm gonna. Maybe you shouldn't.

01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:02.699
It's like, no, you're stupid. And that's their

01:34:02.699 --> 01:34:06.140
gene curse. They're just stubborn. The Primarch

01:34:06.140 --> 01:34:10.210
subtly, their temperament definitely. influences

01:34:10.210 --> 01:34:15.949
the sons. Yeah. I do have a couple of other tidbits,

01:34:16.010 --> 01:34:20.510
by the way. Sure. I got some old -ass, like,

01:34:20.510 --> 01:34:23.930
old -head lore for you. The deep stuff. So, are

01:34:23.930 --> 01:34:25.689
you guys particularly familiar with the comics

01:34:25.689 --> 01:34:28.430
that they've made over the years? Slightly. I

01:34:28.430 --> 01:34:34.489
know the Kalgar one. So, we got the Kalgar one.

01:34:34.970 --> 01:34:38.539
Oh, he owns it. The greatest of them all. The

01:34:38.539 --> 01:34:42.359
Marvel comic, might I add. I'm curious. I can't

01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:43.880
help but notice that Sanguinius doesn't have

01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:48.119
a comic. I was going to say Blood Angels comic.

01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.659
Do you primarily tell Bungles? You say that.

01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:56.739
Maybe not. 1998, I believe the first ever comic

01:34:56.739 --> 01:34:58.819
made for Warhammer was a Blood Angels comic.

01:34:59.140 --> 01:35:02.640
I choose to ignore it. And it was a multi -part

01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:05.239
comic called Blood Quest. And it was about a

01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:09.229
really old model called Leonatus. and leonardus

01:35:09.229 --> 01:35:13.529
was a captain he had his own mini and he was

01:35:13.529 --> 01:35:16.890
uh like oh gee he kind of looks like steven seagal

01:35:16.890 --> 01:35:21.770
um but like not cringe uh it's like what's the

01:35:21.770 --> 01:35:24.210
film that he was good in um he was on a board

01:35:24.210 --> 01:35:29.430
uh something siege under siege that was okay

01:35:29.430 --> 01:35:31.869
and then all the other films are like yeah um

01:35:31.869 --> 01:35:35.510
he's not good in anything uh well you still write

01:35:35.510 --> 01:35:38.250
that one um but the thing is uh leonardus was

01:35:38.250 --> 01:35:41.010
originally like taiko like a few other characters

01:35:41.010 --> 01:35:43.890
groomed to be like the replacement for dante

01:35:43.890 --> 01:35:46.310
because dante for years has been like i'm so

01:35:46.310 --> 01:35:50.409
old and i want to die please let anybody's also

01:35:50.409 --> 01:35:52.149
like i don't want to just abandon the chapter

01:35:52.149 --> 01:35:54.869
i'm gonna like groom some and remember groom

01:35:54.869 --> 01:35:57.750
being not that kind of groom folks like i'm going

01:35:57.750 --> 01:36:00.170
to try and train a person oh no he didn't have

01:36:00.170 --> 01:36:04.979
to say it oh but um So basically, this guy was

01:36:04.979 --> 01:36:08.779
a really heavy -hitting captain like Cato Sicarius

01:36:08.779 --> 01:36:12.739
Energy until one day there was a battle against

01:36:12.739 --> 01:36:15.939
the Orcs. Of course it was the Orcs. Well, they

01:36:15.939 --> 01:36:19.220
had another of Sanguinius' weapons called the

01:36:19.220 --> 01:36:25.340
Blade and Carmine. And most of Leonartus' company

01:36:25.340 --> 01:36:27.640
died defending the artifact or trying to get

01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:30.199
the artifact until Dante and his men entered

01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:35.100
the fray and rescued them. But unfortunately,

01:36:35.319 --> 01:36:39.159
it was lost. The Blade and Carmine was this close

01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:41.159
to being reclaimed. And that's like Sanguinis'

01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:45.520
sword. And so as penance, because he had to do

01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:48.020
some penance, Leonartus is tasked with a blood

01:36:48.020 --> 01:36:50.319
quest, which is what the thing is called, where

01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:52.399
he must find the Blade and Carmine. He must retrieve

01:36:52.399 --> 01:36:55.399
it from the Orc war boss, Gashul the Destroyer.

01:36:55.779 --> 01:36:58.300
And however far across the galaxy he may be,

01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:02.539
you've got to go reclaim that sword. Now, in

01:37:02.539 --> 01:37:05.899
reality, Gashool is not an orc. He's a chaos

01:37:05.899 --> 01:37:09.159
-possessed orc. He's got a scribbly spirit in

01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:11.520
him. That's why he's like Gasgool levels of power.

01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:15.420
He is like one of the biggest orcs around. But,

01:37:15.460 --> 01:37:18.760
Leonartis is like, okay, I'm going to go track

01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:21.500
you down across the galaxy. Eventually, getting

01:37:21.500 --> 01:37:23.659
onto his flagship, confronting the demon inside

01:37:23.659 --> 01:37:26.079
of him, and cutting his head off. And then the

01:37:26.079 --> 01:37:28.060
demon's like, ha, you just killed an orc. Stupid.

01:37:28.500 --> 01:37:36.300
I'm a demon. Don't care. No sweat. And so then

01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:38.060
the rest of his blood quest survivors who are

01:37:38.060 --> 01:37:41.039
from his company are like, I'm going to stand

01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:42.939
with you to the end. Let's go into the Eye of

01:37:42.939 --> 01:37:44.800
Terror. Let's go follow into the Eye of Terror.

01:37:44.979 --> 01:37:47.920
Okay, cool. So they go into the Eye of Terror.

01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:50.079
They go to a demon world called Eidolon, not

01:37:50.079 --> 01:37:51.880
to be confused with the Emperor's Children character

01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:55.180
called Eidolon. Again, that Warhammer thing of

01:37:55.180 --> 01:37:57.640
using the names over and over again. And eventually

01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:00.699
they do find that a demon prince of Sinch is

01:38:00.699 --> 01:38:03.920
the one who has the sword. And their quest on

01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:06.640
this death world is aided by a fallen angel called

01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:09.779
Hayroth the Damned. So this guy is 10 ,000 years

01:38:09.779 --> 01:38:11.659
old. He's a dark angel originally from Caliban.

01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.300
And he's like, I'll help you boys. You're going

01:38:15.300 --> 01:38:17.300
to have to best the champion of Khorne, the champion

01:38:17.300 --> 01:38:19.159
of Slaanesh, blah, blah, blah. So they go to

01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:22.859
all these different cities. I think there's one

01:38:22.859 --> 01:38:25.220
called Borbulax, who's like the Nurgle champion.

01:38:25.340 --> 01:38:26.239
It's like, that's a great name. It's something

01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:29.130
like that. And he bests all of them. He loses

01:38:29.130 --> 01:38:31.189
a few men as he goes until eventually it's just

01:38:31.189 --> 01:38:34.390
three of them. It's him, veteran brother Clotin,

01:38:34.489 --> 01:38:37.369
who's just like a giant guy, and scout marine

01:38:37.369 --> 01:38:41.569
Lysander. They eventually go through a maze of

01:38:41.569 --> 01:38:44.409
sinch, possibly in his realm. Maybe it's the

01:38:44.409 --> 01:38:46.250
big labyrinth. I'm not sure. It kind of is a

01:38:46.250 --> 01:38:50.130
bit vague. They go to where the greater demon

01:38:50.130 --> 01:38:53.010
of sinch is, and he goes, okay, kill the dark

01:38:53.010 --> 01:38:55.689
angel, or fallen angel, I should say, and...

01:38:56.029 --> 01:38:59.029
If you fail, you'll serve him. And if you win,

01:38:59.109 --> 01:39:01.770
you will serve at my rightful place. And it's

01:39:01.770 --> 01:39:04.670
basically Sidious from Star Wars. So Leonartus

01:39:04.670 --> 01:39:07.229
goes, oh, we've killed the fallen angel. That's

01:39:07.229 --> 01:39:09.510
good. There's no way we can kill this demon prince.

01:39:09.630 --> 01:39:12.529
We're just free dudes. Run. Run, my boys. Run

01:39:12.529 --> 01:39:14.930
away. Take the blade and carmine. Get out of

01:39:14.930 --> 01:39:17.649
here. Get back to the blood angels. So Leonartus

01:39:17.649 --> 01:39:21.090
sacrifices himself to the demon. Lysander and

01:39:21.090 --> 01:39:24.270
Clotin spend a millennia. trying to get back

01:39:24.270 --> 01:39:26.689
to Baal from the Immaterium. But in real space,

01:39:26.850 --> 01:39:31.109
only 12 years pass until eventually this like

01:39:31.109 --> 01:39:33.550
baby face scout who was there originally comes

01:39:33.550 --> 01:39:37.210
back and he's got a big old Gandalf beard. Clotin's

01:39:37.210 --> 01:39:39.170
got like braids and stuff. He kind of looks kooky.

01:39:39.850 --> 01:39:42.729
And they're like, hey, Dante, we're back. It's

01:39:42.729 --> 01:39:43.949
like, where have you been? Oh, we've been like

01:39:43.949 --> 01:39:46.189
spending like hundreds, if not thousands of years

01:39:46.189 --> 01:39:47.930
in the warp trying to get back. And we've got

01:39:47.930 --> 01:39:51.109
the blade in Carmine. And then Dante and Mephiston

01:39:51.109 --> 01:39:53.600
basically realizes, oh. These two are older than

01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:55.939
you, Dante. You're a scrub competitor. These

01:39:55.939 --> 01:39:59.920
guys are ancient. They're well old. And he's

01:39:59.920 --> 01:40:01.079
like, oh, thanks for getting the sword. What

01:40:01.079 --> 01:40:02.600
happened to Leonatus? He's like, oh, he's still

01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:04.279
out there. We've got to go find him. And he's

01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:07.560
like, well, are you sure? And they're like, yeah,

01:40:07.600 --> 01:40:10.159
oh, captain, my captain, I'm not going to leave

01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:14.720
Leonatus to be tortured by chaos forever. So

01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:19.770
Clotin and Lysander go back into the... the chaos

01:40:19.770 --> 01:40:22.069
infested parts of the world. They find a, they

01:40:22.069 --> 01:40:25.689
find like a, what's Abaddon's seer called? The

01:40:25.689 --> 01:40:29.729
one with an M. Is it Morgana? Morgana. They find

01:40:29.729 --> 01:40:32.550
like a Morgana seer type person. And there's

01:40:32.550 --> 01:40:34.789
like a big chaos battle going on. And they just

01:40:34.789 --> 01:40:36.970
kind of waltz in and they ruin the chaos battle

01:40:36.970 --> 01:40:39.470
that's been going on forever. They go to the

01:40:39.470 --> 01:40:40.789
seer and it's like, tell me what I need to know.

01:40:41.069 --> 01:40:43.470
And then they cut its head off. Like, lol, blood

01:40:43.470 --> 01:40:47.460
angels. Blah, blah, blah. And, um, basically

01:40:47.460 --> 01:40:51.039
they go to this world called skyron they uh they

01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:53.699
managed to find leonardus and where he's been

01:40:53.699 --> 01:40:56.579
and he's been corrupted by chaos he's got like

01:40:56.579 --> 01:41:00.000
kiss makeup on it's like proper 80s metal where

01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:02.279
he's like he's straight into his hair he's got

01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:04.960
like the corpse paint on he's like oh that's

01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.760
leonardus that's no good and he's now serving

01:41:07.760 --> 01:41:11.520
the demon prince and so Lysander and Clotin fight

01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:15.180
their way to him. They leave a mortal serf uprising

01:41:15.180 --> 01:41:17.659
in the bowels of the ship to overthrow the guards.

01:41:18.279 --> 01:41:23.000
And eventually, Leontes fights Lysander. He manages

01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:25.020
to strike down Clotin, if I remember correctly,

01:41:25.199 --> 01:41:29.340
and that's what gives him an opportunity to briefly

01:41:29.340 --> 01:41:31.539
escape the clutches of the demon that's possessing

01:41:31.539 --> 01:41:34.199
his body. And he's like, thank you for helping

01:41:34.199 --> 01:41:37.760
me break through. I've been watching their maneuvers.

01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:40.319
I know exactly what they're going to do. overload

01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:42.840
the ship's reactors will blow up the chaos fleet

01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:44.739
and i know exactly where to go and i'll sacrifice

01:41:44.739 --> 01:41:47.420
myself and end this blood quest once and for

01:41:47.420 --> 01:41:51.960
all and so basically lysander escapes garshall

01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:53.920
the destroyer is destroyed when the ship blows

01:41:53.920 --> 01:41:57.659
up and uh that captain of the blood angels never

01:41:57.659 --> 01:42:00.880
comes back rip to a real one and uh it's kind

01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:03.880
of a fun comic it's very retro like each each

01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:07.069
edition the art gets better And at first it's

01:42:07.069 --> 01:42:09.170
all like kind of clunky looking and a bit goofy.

01:42:09.250 --> 01:42:11.090
And then it gets better and better until eventually

01:42:11.090 --> 01:42:13.729
it's like he's wearing black metal face paint.

01:42:15.310 --> 01:42:17.449
Demons, demons, demons. I didn't know any of

01:42:17.449 --> 01:42:20.829
this before. And it's cool. And one last tidbit

01:42:20.829 --> 01:42:24.390
from one of the Raffen books. Raffen kills Fabius

01:42:24.390 --> 01:42:27.310
Bile. I've said this before. And he does so by

01:42:27.310 --> 01:42:29.750
drinking a bit of Sanguinis' blood that Fabius

01:42:29.750 --> 01:42:31.890
stole because he wanted to use his blood for

01:42:31.890 --> 01:42:36.310
science experiments. You're not... You shouldn't

01:42:36.310 --> 01:42:39.189
drink the Primarch's blood, right? You shouldn't

01:42:39.189 --> 01:42:44.210
drink blood in general, but yeah. It's like putting

01:42:44.210 --> 01:42:46.569
a non -recharged battery in a charging port.

01:42:46.689 --> 01:42:48.890
It's like, this is not going to end well. It's

01:42:48.890 --> 01:42:51.489
like the battery expands. Killer Queen has already

01:42:51.489 --> 01:42:55.810
touched this controller. Yeah, yeah. And so he

01:42:55.810 --> 01:42:58.670
manages to hurl Fabius over the tower and he

01:42:58.670 --> 01:43:00.329
gets eaten to death by Tyranid, which is funny.

01:43:01.739 --> 01:43:04.439
But then Raffan manages to get back to the Blood

01:43:04.439 --> 01:43:07.380
Angels with the help of his friends who are in

01:43:07.380 --> 01:43:10.920
this prison camp. And Chaplain Lamartes, who's

01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:13.359
in charge of the death company, and High Priest

01:43:13.359 --> 01:43:18.119
Corbulo, who's the main medic, are like, it's

01:43:18.119 --> 01:43:20.840
got blood in him. It's got primal blood in him.

01:43:20.859 --> 01:43:23.439
And then Lamartes is like, we just put him out

01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:25.859
of his misery, get the blood out that way. And

01:43:25.859 --> 01:43:27.880
Corbulo's like, no, he's a good boy. He's like

01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:32.560
Mephiston's bae. I've got an idea. what was his

01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:35.500
um when you're when you're a blood angel and

01:43:35.500 --> 01:43:37.439
you become an astartes proper you're putting

01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:40.140
a sarcophagus and then it like transfuses the

01:43:40.140 --> 01:43:41.479
blood into you it's like what if we put him in

01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:44.880
the the coffin he was trained in and that will

01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:47.039
siphon the blood out gradually and we can like

01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:50.399
subdue him a bit like okay fair enough and while

01:43:50.399 --> 01:43:53.779
he's in there there's a revelation uh you know

01:43:53.779 --> 01:43:56.020
i mentioned briefly about that meros guy who

01:43:56.020 --> 01:44:00.000
sacrificed his life to save sanguineus Turns

01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.479
out the last thing he ever did in the Horus Heresy

01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:05.500
was before he jumped into the Ragefire, he tore

01:44:05.500 --> 01:44:08.579
out his own gene seed and threw it to the Primarch

01:44:08.579 --> 01:44:12.899
and said, remember my legacy. That gene seed

01:44:12.899 --> 01:44:15.220
is in Raffen's body. He's the one who inherited

01:44:15.220 --> 01:44:17.739
the gene seed. And so there's a weird link between

01:44:17.739 --> 01:44:21.119
them. And also, quinkydinkily, it's the same

01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:23.460
sarcophagus that Meros used when he was an initiate.

01:44:23.739 --> 01:44:27.260
So while he's in a coma state, they have a psychic

01:44:27.260 --> 01:44:30.460
communion in like a weird immaterial realm bridging

01:44:30.460 --> 01:44:32.699
the gap of 10 000 years and they're very confused

01:44:32.699 --> 01:44:34.119
because their heraldry is all over the place

01:44:34.119 --> 01:44:35.920
and like who are you and what's going on and

01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:39.300
both of them have inner demons which manifest

01:44:39.300 --> 01:44:42.460
and neither of them can kill them but if they

01:44:42.460 --> 01:44:46.039
kill one another's they manage to to banish the

01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:49.439
demons the sanguinar shows up gives them the

01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:52.920
thumbs up and he's like good and then he disappears

01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:57.529
um And basically, they have like a heart -to

01:44:57.529 --> 01:45:00.050
-heart where Meros learns that before he was

01:45:00.050 --> 01:45:02.010
going to jump into the Ragefire, that Sanguinius

01:45:02.010 --> 01:45:04.489
would die. And so one of the reasons he jumped

01:45:04.489 --> 01:45:07.550
into the Ragefire was to try and prevent the

01:45:07.550 --> 01:45:10.310
Grimdark future and the death of his Primarch.

01:45:10.850 --> 01:45:15.770
And yeah, but then he's like, oh, at least I

01:45:15.770 --> 01:45:18.750
know that my legacy lives on in Rathen and that

01:45:18.750 --> 01:45:21.329
the Blood Angels still survive and it's important.

01:45:21.949 --> 01:45:25.640
And then Rathen's like... I hope I don't get

01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:28.979
abandoned in the near future. I'm a really cool

01:45:28.979 --> 01:45:32.939
character. That's him gone. Thanks, Games Workshop.

01:45:33.500 --> 01:45:40.560
Thank you. Thanks. That is cool, though. That's

01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:42.840
a cool little... Because I didn't know that obviously

01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:46.140
with Nat creates like the... I do like it when

01:45:46.140 --> 01:45:48.020
they have little links to horror series. Don't

01:45:48.020 --> 01:45:50.819
do it all the time. obviously don't that's sometimes

01:45:50.819 --> 01:45:52.760
don't do it too much but i like the little ones

01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:56.279
where like it harkens back to uh other characters

01:45:56.279 --> 01:45:59.119
i think although for the poor you know blood

01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:02.140
angels they very much have had a whole legacy

01:46:02.140 --> 01:46:05.020
of like they're just holding they're holding

01:46:05.020 --> 01:46:07.939
whatever fringe of their you know the system

01:46:07.939 --> 01:46:10.439
ballers in you know especially with imperial

01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:12.039
knights they're just holding it all together

01:46:12.039 --> 01:46:16.680
i think they're very much like with what um Even

01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:18.979
like a small tip that I always like is like when

01:46:18.979 --> 01:46:21.420
they mentioned that Horus, who Horus thought

01:46:21.420 --> 01:46:24.840
would make a good war master. And he said it

01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:27.300
should have been Sanguinius. And it's proven

01:46:27.300 --> 01:46:30.359
like as in, you know, in Imperium Secundus during

01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:34.100
the Horus Heresy when the Lion Gilliman and Sanguinius,

01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:36.460
you know, they don't know that Terra did exist

01:46:36.460 --> 01:46:38.260
anymore. They're cut off from, you know, inside

01:46:38.260 --> 01:46:41.020
the Ruin Storm of the warp. They make their own

01:46:41.020 --> 01:46:43.479
mini Imperium and Sanguinius is Emperor Regent

01:46:43.479 --> 01:46:46.270
at that time. Yep. And it shows, like, maybe

01:46:46.270 --> 01:46:51.329
with Dante being, you know, warden of Imperium

01:46:51.329 --> 01:46:53.770
Nihilus, that the Blood Angels are essentially

01:46:53.770 --> 01:46:57.569
a leading role amongst many of the other chapters,

01:46:57.689 --> 01:47:01.510
even to the 41st millennium. I do really like

01:47:01.510 --> 01:47:04.449
the exchange Gilliman has with Sanguinis as well,

01:47:04.529 --> 01:47:06.409
where at the end of the Devastation of Baal book,

01:47:06.489 --> 01:47:10.039
he's like, hey. We need to do better. He's like

01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:13.159
for millennia, the Imperium has been like promoting

01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:16.439
men and making them space Marines out of cruelty.

01:47:17.279 --> 01:47:21.039
We need to have men who are not just the strongest.

01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:23.260
We need to have men who are tempered and have

01:47:23.260 --> 01:47:27.279
good morals because this doesn't work. Just making

01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:28.979
the strongest, the ones who are going to be in

01:47:28.979 --> 01:47:32.119
charge does not work. And I've seen that time

01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:34.140
and time again, since I've been back in the game

01:47:34.140 --> 01:47:37.159
and it's like. rebuild Secundus, rebuild Primus

01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:40.300
if you can. It's kind of covered in like, Cabanda,

01:47:40.300 --> 01:47:42.600
while he was rampaging on Primus, made like a

01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:45.239
big tower of skulls of like, not just Tyranid

01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:47.220
skulls, but like Bioship skulls. So it's like

01:47:47.220 --> 01:47:49.619
a big ziggurat that you can see from the orbit

01:47:49.619 --> 01:47:51.579
of Prime. And you're like, look at that thing.

01:47:52.279 --> 01:47:57.460
Khorne is amazing. It's like, yeah. He's a one

01:47:57.460 --> 01:47:59.520
-trick pony, but he does that trick pretty good.

01:47:59.960 --> 01:48:05.500
Yeah. There's a... I have a cool one, which is

01:48:05.500 --> 01:48:08.380
like a tidbit, only a small tidbit, which is

01:48:08.380 --> 01:48:10.020
like, you probably think, oh, you know, there's

01:48:10.020 --> 01:48:12.680
Black Rage, you know, Korn many times been like,

01:48:12.819 --> 01:48:15.579
blood angels, join me, please. There is like

01:48:15.579 --> 01:48:20.100
a small bit in a Mephiston novella where there's

01:48:20.100 --> 01:48:22.760
the blood angels with Mephiston. They encounter

01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:27.140
this sort of shrine world that's been long dead.

01:48:27.300 --> 01:48:30.779
And it's what they think is like relics of old,

01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:34.359
like blood angel patterned armor. And it's basically

01:48:34.359 --> 01:48:37.819
they end up realizing, oh, they're not relics.

01:48:37.939 --> 01:48:41.720
They're actually like ancient blood angels that

01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:44.600
fell to the black rage or like fell to corn or

01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:46.500
something or chaos or something. And they're

01:48:46.500 --> 01:48:49.079
like cracking and then they start waking up and

01:48:49.079 --> 01:48:50.739
they have to end up fighting them, which is quite

01:48:50.739 --> 01:48:53.619
cool. So there are examples of in law stuff where

01:48:53.619 --> 01:48:56.920
some blood angels do fall. Also in preparation

01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:00.000
for the devastation of Baal. Corbulo tries to

01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:02.159
like, well not Corbulo, one of his sanguinary

01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:05.220
priests tries to make like even better blood

01:49:05.220 --> 01:49:08.479
angels and Fabius Bile is like undercover and

01:49:08.479 --> 01:49:11.100
he gives them like tainted stock and he makes

01:49:11.100 --> 01:49:13.699
blood fiends as they're called and so before

01:49:13.699 --> 01:49:15.699
the devastation of Bile happens there's all these

01:49:15.699 --> 01:49:18.159
like weird blood angels mutant like abominations

01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:19.659
running around they're like oh my god they're

01:49:19.659 --> 01:49:21.760
trying to eat Sanguinius' sarcophagus they're

01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:23.420
going to the blood they're going to eat his stuff

01:49:23.420 --> 01:49:26.479
oh no please don't eat Sanguinius' coffin get

01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:29.640
around the coffin boys we are so fucked if that

01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:32.159
happens yeah they are like they cannot catch

01:49:32.159 --> 01:49:36.060
a break four fellas. And then Byler's like, I

01:49:36.060 --> 01:49:38.859
stole his blood! And Raffin's like, come here,

01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:42.119
you! And he runs after him. He's good. I think,

01:49:42.140 --> 01:49:45.420
though, with that, is there any more small parts,

01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:48.960
Andy, that we want to go through? Have we talked

01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:52.239
about Armageddon? Are they there enough for it

01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:54.340
to matter? That's where Tycho dies, right? They

01:49:54.340 --> 01:49:56.619
were there the second and third time, so much

01:49:56.619 --> 01:50:00.279
so that there were like three sensors for the

01:50:00.279 --> 01:50:02.640
third war. One was called Yarek, one was called

01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:05.420
Dante, the other one was the Titan pilot. I can't

01:50:05.420 --> 01:50:08.380
remember his name. It was the Titan fella. So

01:50:08.380 --> 01:50:11.380
Dante was really active in the second war. Third

01:50:11.380 --> 01:50:14.699
war, and second war is where Mephiston changed

01:50:14.699 --> 01:50:18.420
into what he is today, where he was buried. um

01:50:18.420 --> 01:50:20.880
but the third war they only sent like a company

01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:23.479
and it was taiko again and he fell to the black

01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:28.500
rage and died cool yeah can i i might be wrong

01:50:28.500 --> 01:50:30.899
because i half of my half of my attention has

01:50:30.899 --> 01:50:32.880
been directed towards the lore crimes chat and

01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:38.180
i've been talking with uh but is it like acceptable

01:50:38.180 --> 01:50:41.060
to say that most of blood angels lore is extremely

01:50:41.060 --> 01:50:43.539
self -contained and everything they do is really

01:50:43.539 --> 01:50:48.199
only affecting their chapter They have no participation

01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:52.939
in overarching events. I mean, you've got two

01:50:52.939 --> 01:50:54.979
Dante books, you've got Devastation of Baal,

01:50:55.060 --> 01:50:58.760
you've got three Mephiston books. You have Logan

01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.800
Grimnar banishing freaking Magnus and the Space

01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:06.720
Wolves bodying people on Armageddon. And then

01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:10.159
you have, I don't know, the War of the Beasts

01:51:10.159 --> 01:51:14.100
for the Imperial Fists. So much Ultramarine stories.

01:51:14.380 --> 01:51:16.439
Like, yeah, Ultramarine's doing everything. Blood

01:51:16.439 --> 01:51:18.760
Angels kind of only are just, like, their own

01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:20.359
separate thing. It doesn't feel like they really

01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:23.579
have got to do much important stuff. The other

01:51:23.579 --> 01:51:26.399
problem is, like, Tycho has a short story. Raffen

01:51:26.399 --> 01:51:28.699
has his own ombus, but no one remembers he exists,

01:51:28.939 --> 01:51:31.739
which is a shame. Even though Dante and Fiston

01:51:31.739 --> 01:51:34.180
are in them, they're in those comics, and no

01:51:34.180 --> 01:51:37.359
one knows they exist. There's, like, a weird

01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:39.619
divide between modern 40k. When I say modern,

01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:42.439
I'm considering, like, Devastation of Baal modern.

01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:44.640
yeah and then there's like retro where it's like

01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:47.079
we're still figuring out what warhammer is and

01:51:47.079 --> 01:51:48.619
they have a lot of that territory as well yeah

01:51:48.619 --> 01:51:52.279
a lot a lot of their stories are more like again

01:51:52.279 --> 01:51:54.500
the horrors heresy one they're like back loaded

01:51:54.500 --> 01:51:57.460
towards the end of the like they their first

01:51:57.460 --> 01:51:59.640
like solo stuff is in the middle of the horrors

01:51:59.640 --> 01:52:01.699
heresy and then they're like the main feature

01:52:01.699 --> 01:52:04.140
at the end because you know all the ones that

01:52:04.140 --> 01:52:05.779
were present at the beginning they've all had

01:52:05.779 --> 01:52:10.420
their stories the 40k stuff really only kind

01:52:10.420 --> 01:52:13.560
of starts with what is like the tyranid arc leading

01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:17.859
to the devastation of Baal and then essentially

01:52:17.859 --> 01:52:20.659
events surrounding that after like their whole

01:52:20.659 --> 01:52:23.960
40k narrative is surrounding them sort of low

01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:26.699
-key fighting tyranids or in preparation for

01:52:26.699 --> 01:52:29.520
fighting tyranids but yeah there's not the vote

01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:33.140
we should say again we're talking like as someone

01:52:33.140 --> 01:52:34.640
I think put right in the comments there's over

01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:38.180
11 books and if someone said that's not like

01:52:38.180 --> 01:52:42.409
that much most films or stories are not 11 books

01:52:42.409 --> 01:52:46.149
so yeah but like that being said you can write

01:52:46.149 --> 01:52:48.909
11 you can write a book that really says nothing

01:52:48.909 --> 01:52:52.409
like just because volume doesn't mean doesn't

01:52:52.409 --> 01:52:55.689
equal like amount of yeah a lot a lot happens

01:52:55.689 --> 01:52:58.590
and they they get a lot of love but most of the

01:52:58.590 --> 01:53:01.409
their stories essentially often focus around

01:53:01.409 --> 01:53:03.590
their home world though yeah that's what i'm

01:53:03.590 --> 01:53:06.789
getting the blood angels lord seems to be play

01:53:06.789 --> 01:53:10.260
blood angels space marines doing miscellaneous

01:53:10.260 --> 01:53:13.920
things. Well, their, their, their big thing is

01:53:13.920 --> 01:53:15.640
we did that thing when we got all our successes

01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:17.619
together, kind of like the first wall in the

01:53:17.619 --> 01:53:19.680
war of beasts. And that was our version of that.

01:53:19.859 --> 01:53:22.039
Like that's their thing. And then it's like,

01:53:22.239 --> 01:53:24.720
Oh, we didn't die. That's good. Most of this

01:53:24.720 --> 01:53:26.739
stuff is like with most space marine things is

01:53:26.739 --> 01:53:29.560
like, Oh, they three companies were sent to blah,

01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:32.699
blah, blah war zone. But that's most. like that's

01:53:32.699 --> 01:53:34.880
most codex law this feels it feels easier to

01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:36.819
like look at other space marine chapters and

01:53:36.819 --> 01:53:39.119
see what they've like accomplished in the galaxy

01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:42.300
and it's harder to see blood angels other than

01:53:42.300 --> 01:53:45.340
them defending their own home world i guess armageddon's

01:53:45.340 --> 01:53:47.659
big though because obviously dante everyone was

01:53:47.659 --> 01:53:50.579
like oh my god it's dante there are stories where

01:53:50.579 --> 01:53:53.260
they are they do feature as side characters and

01:53:53.260 --> 01:53:56.619
other things like dante is when the salamanders

01:53:56.619 --> 01:54:00.460
meet the what's his name tushan the chapter master

01:54:00.460 --> 01:54:02.920
salamanders he's when he's newly appointed he

01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:05.640
goes to meet dante and they're the ones that

01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:08.300
bow to dante and the blood angels don't bow back

01:54:08.300 --> 01:54:10.579
because they're like oh my god he's the legend

01:54:10.579 --> 01:54:12.979
that's what i'm trying to say it's like if you

01:54:12.979 --> 01:54:15.479
have the ultramarines and the only real story

01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:18.000
arc the ultramarines had was the battle of mccraig

01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:20.859
against the tyranids and nothing else and the

01:54:20.859 --> 01:54:22.520
ultramarines would be a whole lot less interesting

01:54:22.520 --> 01:54:27.289
right like i that makes sense As far as 40k goes.

01:54:27.609 --> 01:54:29.289
But the Ultraman's have done a billion other

01:54:29.289 --> 01:54:32.189
things in the overarching story, right? I think

01:54:32.189 --> 01:54:34.050
the big elephant in the room with Blood Angels

01:54:34.050 --> 01:54:37.609
is Dante is now overall commander of Imperium

01:54:37.609 --> 01:54:40.970
Nihilus, who's also returned to Imperium Nihilus.

01:54:41.289 --> 01:54:43.970
The Lion, who's in Dawn of War now. It's like,

01:54:44.029 --> 01:54:47.090
oh, you're going to supersede the Primarch? Oh,

01:54:47.310 --> 01:54:51.869
that'll go well. Okay. So I'm like, oh, is he

01:54:51.869 --> 01:54:53.550
just going to get sidelined by the Lion, perhaps?

01:54:54.569 --> 01:54:58.350
I don't know. Or if they make their, I have a

01:54:58.350 --> 01:55:00.689
feeling that they make their own, like there's

01:55:00.689 --> 01:55:04.569
a plot line, which is, you know, Imperium Secundus

01:55:04.569 --> 01:55:07.529
has been revealed in whatever 40K and it's going

01:55:07.529 --> 01:55:10.250
to bite Gilliman in the ass unless they make

01:55:10.250 --> 01:55:13.350
a new Triumvirate, you know, the Lion, Gilliman

01:55:13.350 --> 01:55:16.170
and Dante instead of the Lion, Gilliman and Sanguinius.

01:55:16.250 --> 01:55:18.890
So again, like it's hard to tell because a lot

01:55:18.890 --> 01:55:22.430
of the 40K stuff is always. It's 10 years in

01:55:22.430 --> 01:55:27.069
the making. Or they could just do that with all

01:55:27.069 --> 01:55:29.189
their chapter masters and leave the Primarchs

01:55:29.189 --> 01:55:31.590
alone, but that's not allowed. Also, remember

01:55:31.590 --> 01:55:35.189
that Njal Stormcaller has currently got a 100

01:55:35.189 --> 01:55:38.829
% record for sussing out which Primarchs return

01:55:38.829 --> 01:55:42.149
in what order. So, according to him, the Jagatai

01:55:42.149 --> 01:55:46.149
is next. No, it's just not going to happen. Jagatai

01:55:46.149 --> 01:55:48.350
then Correx. He was the lion when the lion came

01:55:48.350 --> 01:55:50.489
back. Jagged Eye and Korrax are next. You know

01:55:50.489 --> 01:55:57.090
what? It does make them infinite money. It's

01:55:57.090 --> 01:56:00.350
got to be Leman Russ. I've only heard from Chapter

01:56:00.350 --> 01:56:03.649
Master Valrak and Auspex Tactics that Leman Russ

01:56:03.649 --> 01:56:08.930
is the one to return. I cannot trust them as

01:56:08.930 --> 01:56:12.270
sources when it comes to this anymore. I have.

01:56:13.029 --> 01:56:15.649
I'm going to have a bloody rant about how many

01:56:15.649 --> 01:56:18.729
things they've like... said is going to happen,

01:56:18.829 --> 01:56:20.970
and it's just not. And I'm like, I can't have

01:56:20.970 --> 01:56:23.270
faith in it. Like the Total War reveal, and you're

01:56:23.270 --> 01:56:25.449
like, oh, but he said. He said the thing would

01:56:25.449 --> 01:56:29.270
happen. He said it. He lies to me. I promise

01:56:29.270 --> 01:56:32.409
you. It's going to come out this week. I promise

01:56:32.409 --> 01:56:34.890
you. Blood Angels make me think of Eldar, kind

01:56:34.890 --> 01:56:37.050
of, where they're like the coolest army ever,

01:56:37.130 --> 01:56:38.930
codex -wise. Like, you look at the codex and

01:56:38.930 --> 01:56:41.130
their pictures and their models and their codex

01:56:41.130 --> 01:56:43.210
lore, it's really cool. And then their books,

01:56:43.289 --> 01:56:45.710
just like, I just don't, like, it's harder for

01:56:45.710 --> 01:56:48.039
me to care for some reason. about like their

01:56:48.039 --> 01:56:50.720
other story stuff in the but the books are really

01:56:50.720 --> 01:56:53.140
the books are really good though yeah i know

01:56:53.140 --> 01:56:55.000
i know i'm not saying that books are bad sorry

01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:58.020
that i don't quite like books are good it just

01:56:58.020 --> 01:56:59.640
feels like well a lot of them just like don't

01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:01.300
matter for some i don't know why i don't know

01:57:01.300 --> 01:57:03.800
why i feel like this it's just hard i mean definitely

01:57:03.800 --> 01:57:08.479
matters a lot yes i think i think there's just

01:57:08.479 --> 01:57:11.300
like a weird like warhammer's warhammer has a

01:57:11.300 --> 01:57:14.199
unique problem where it's like You can have these

01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:16.659
big bombastic stories, but it won't actually

01:57:16.659 --> 01:57:18.779
move the needle of the story unless it's Cadia.

01:57:19.020 --> 01:57:20.760
And so then you can be like, well, there's a

01:57:20.760 --> 01:57:22.899
Blood Angels omnibus, but it doesn't matter.

01:57:23.100 --> 01:57:25.060
Or you can be like, oh, there's a whole Iron

01:57:25.060 --> 01:57:26.939
Hand series. Doesn't matter because no one's

01:57:26.939 --> 01:57:28.840
read them anyway. I don't mind that though. It's

01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:32.359
a galaxy size. Yeah, I agree. But like Devastation

01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:34.359
of Baal, it's not like War of the Beast where

01:57:34.359 --> 01:57:36.859
the orcs are on the doorstep of the Imperium.

01:57:37.279 --> 01:57:39.960
Yeah. It's just the Blood Angels. Like it's just...

01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:43.600
chapters i think that's slightly different because

01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:46.500
war of the bees was intended to be like it isn't

01:57:46.500 --> 01:57:49.380
multiple it's a huge giant series yeah it's like

01:57:49.380 --> 01:57:51.960
the horrors heresy like multiple authors contribute

01:57:51.960 --> 01:57:55.220
whereas this is just like you know one author

01:57:55.220 --> 01:57:58.199
if it's due with neck cries you know with um

01:57:58.199 --> 01:58:00.119
here's the guy who does it infinite and divine

01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:05.310
um uh oh god uh i've forgotten his name robert

01:58:05.310 --> 01:58:08.010
rath is it robert no no i think he has nick in

01:58:08.010 --> 01:58:11.149
the name no it is robert rath is it yeah sorry

01:58:11.149 --> 01:58:14.529
i think it places twice yeah but like those two

01:58:14.529 --> 01:58:16.689
books can come out like or you know or twice

01:58:16.689 --> 01:58:19.010
of the king come out and you can be like someone

01:58:19.010 --> 01:58:20.489
could be like well what does that change about

01:58:20.489 --> 01:58:22.890
the whole story but like it doesn't have to it's

01:58:22.890 --> 01:58:24.789
just enjoyable no i know i'm not like i'm not

01:58:24.789 --> 01:58:27.029
saying i think i'm too i'm thinking too spoiled

01:58:27.029 --> 01:58:29.720
by necron lore because necron lore like huge

01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:31.739
things happen in every single book that you read

01:58:31.739 --> 01:58:35.260
and they have implications quite often to the

01:58:35.260 --> 01:58:37.640
overarching setting and i've been listening to

01:58:37.640 --> 01:58:39.560
too much like call and fabulous bile and stuff

01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:41.880
like that but i don't know the thing is is even

01:58:41.880 --> 01:58:43.520
with the devastation of barl it's not just one

01:58:43.520 --> 01:58:46.039
book there's the one book there's the anthology

01:58:46.039 --> 01:58:48.979
of short stories and there's two codec uh two

01:58:48.979 --> 01:58:51.420
codec supplements with the shield worlds above

01:58:51.420 --> 01:58:53.979
just two it's like it's like the badab war there's

01:58:53.979 --> 01:58:55.960
like two of them but it's like no one's read

01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:59.560
them i have but it's like yeah yeah i think i

01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:01.479
just think of anarchy of the travelers though

01:59:01.479 --> 01:59:03.619
but that's because yeah and he's got his own

01:59:03.619 --> 01:59:06.340
short little novella in that anthology and there's

01:59:06.340 --> 01:59:07.960
a bunch of and there's but they're also sharing

01:59:07.960 --> 01:59:11.100
space with like the uh the tempest of scions

01:59:11.100 --> 01:59:13.960
the sisters of battle flesh terrors like there's

01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:15.699
a lot of like other stuff involved with that

01:59:15.699 --> 01:59:17.899
as well and like there's a lot of there's a lot

01:59:17.899 --> 01:59:20.079
of like there's a lot of stuff to that story

01:59:20.079 --> 01:59:22.279
but it's just like oh there's one book and people

01:59:22.279 --> 01:59:23.720
don't know that there are these other things

01:59:23.720 --> 01:59:27.020
and it's because it's hard to find this amount

01:59:27.020 --> 01:59:29.859
of warhammer lore like yeah i'm not trying to

01:59:29.859 --> 01:59:31.319
hit on the blood angels i'm not trying to handle

01:59:31.319 --> 01:59:33.600
the blood angels it just they did they have a

01:59:33.600 --> 01:59:36.239
lot less like crazy moments that you think about

01:59:36.239 --> 01:59:39.060
in the setting than things like black templars

01:59:39.060 --> 01:59:42.479
and ultramarines and etc etc mephiston stopped

01:59:42.479 --> 01:59:45.600
time once yeah okay that's not what i mean that's

01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:48.819
not what i mean i think he means like what he

01:59:48.819 --> 01:59:51.239
means like when i think of when i think of armageddon

01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:54.189
i think about yarik and hell's reach i don't

01:59:54.189 --> 01:59:56.090
think of a blood angels like at all i think oh

01:59:56.090 --> 01:59:59.970
taiko died and that feels bad they're not in

01:59:59.970 --> 02:00:02.170
them they're not they're not the novel focus

02:00:02.170 --> 02:00:05.670
on those ones exactly that's what i mean yeah

02:00:05.670 --> 02:00:08.270
yeah yeah that's fair that's fair you know i

02:00:08.270 --> 02:00:10.090
think with that though because i don't know if

02:00:10.090 --> 02:00:11.810
there's any more uh appreciate everyone who has

02:00:11.810 --> 02:00:14.550
uh been a member and donating so far but i think

02:00:14.550 --> 02:00:19.119
we had We have a new, well, the previous question

02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:21.000
of the week, Colin, I think. We do have some

02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:25.079
donations. Should we do them after the question

02:00:25.079 --> 02:00:31.340
of the week? Yeah. Let me pull those up. What

02:00:31.340 --> 02:00:34.380
are you looking forward to about biotransference?

02:00:35.020 --> 02:00:37.779
This is on our Necrons episode. Indeed, and thank

02:00:37.779 --> 02:00:39.939
you to the person who said I'm glowing from the

02:00:39.939 --> 02:00:46.239
techless pregnancy in that comment section. DonkeymanUSA,

02:00:46.260 --> 02:00:49.180
hashtag biotransference, I'd be able to create

02:00:49.180 --> 02:00:51.319
a program that automatically takes everything

02:00:51.319 --> 02:00:55.020
HorridHal says, add it to the supercut, and balance

02:00:55.020 --> 02:00:58.899
the audio without my input. Wow. How convenient.

02:01:03.669 --> 02:01:05.989
Nerdcasting40k, looking forward to reenacting

02:01:05.989 --> 02:01:10.050
Man vs. Machine on a galactic scale. Hey, that's

02:01:10.050 --> 02:01:12.569
a valid enough reason. Nice. Shout out to TF2.

02:01:12.689 --> 02:01:15.869
Hell yeah. Top 10 games ever. And RarisPepe,

02:01:16.069 --> 02:01:20.029
hashtag biotransference. Not sure this counts

02:01:20.029 --> 02:01:23.670
as looking forward to, but biotransference is

02:01:23.670 --> 02:01:26.050
clearly needed just to survive every time Eli

02:01:26.050 --> 02:01:32.180
heads a stream. Eli does what? Heads a stream.

02:01:32.600 --> 02:01:35.720
Oh, I understand. Because you're liable to age

02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:39.939
or whatever, yeah. What's that Necron play where

02:01:39.939 --> 02:01:42.100
it's like, is it for like the War in Heaven where

02:01:42.100 --> 02:01:45.819
the full thing takes ten years? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

02:01:49.479 --> 02:01:53.159
He's making sure you're leaving with all the

02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:57.829
details. That's pretty good. Did anyone have

02:01:57.829 --> 02:02:00.029
any ideas from between us then? What would you

02:02:00.029 --> 02:02:05.250
guys... What about... Was it hashtag rage? What

02:02:05.250 --> 02:02:09.289
do you see? I meant for the next one. I meant

02:02:09.289 --> 02:02:12.729
for the next one. I think I said I'm looking

02:02:12.729 --> 02:02:15.789
forward to... I'm either Adam Smasher -ing myself

02:02:15.789 --> 02:02:22.960
into what's happening. What? You laughed and

02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:25.699
Andy was falling asleep. I was like, what? I

02:02:25.699 --> 02:02:30.520
was thinking. Maybe just ball with your answer.

02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:36.239
No, I said before, I'm turning myself into either

02:02:36.239 --> 02:02:42.000
Adam Smasher, Grievous, or Rebecca. That's what

02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:48.180
I'm looking forward to. I kind of have a... I

02:02:48.180 --> 02:02:51.840
like the idea of being able to access memories

02:02:51.840 --> 02:02:54.720
perfectly. So therefore you could revisit like

02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:56.939
a really good one. And then you can just kind

02:02:56.939 --> 02:02:59.260
of re again, like you can rewatch it almost.

02:02:59.420 --> 02:03:02.060
And it's not, you know, as you know, as you say,

02:03:02.079 --> 02:03:04.020
you get older, it kind of becomes things become

02:03:04.020 --> 02:03:05.800
hazy or whatever. Whereas like if you were a

02:03:05.800 --> 02:03:08.260
buyer transfers, you could basically recall everything.

02:03:09.159 --> 02:03:12.939
Apart from... I see. Yeah, you lose all the pleasures

02:03:12.939 --> 02:03:15.340
of it as well. Well, I mean, even the downside

02:03:15.340 --> 02:03:18.359
of that is that you're also going to hyper -realistically

02:03:18.359 --> 02:03:20.840
remember every embarrassing moment you've had

02:03:20.840 --> 02:03:24.300
in your life. At least I'll have them. I guess,

02:03:24.420 --> 02:03:26.960
but there's some memories that I... Please, get

02:03:26.960 --> 02:03:29.659
up and go away. It's only embarrassing if you

02:03:29.659 --> 02:03:33.439
feel embarrassed. You power through it, bro.

02:03:34.029 --> 02:03:36.569
you just learn to power through also when you're

02:03:36.569 --> 02:03:40.449
30 you don't you just don't care you couldn't

02:03:40.449 --> 02:03:44.149
care less it's amazing you know what do you think

02:03:44.149 --> 02:03:46.369
hal's never had a fun party is what i'm hearing

02:03:46.369 --> 02:03:49.869
oh that's definitely not true if there's like

02:03:49.869 --> 02:03:53.109
wild under the assumption that everyone's getting

02:03:53.109 --> 02:03:56.350
biotransference otherwise i wouldn't want to

02:03:56.350 --> 02:03:58.789
be physically immortal because i would suck but

02:03:58.789 --> 02:04:01.189
if everyone is then i could just i could go off

02:04:01.189 --> 02:04:03.550
with you know Wife and buddies and everyone in

02:04:03.550 --> 02:04:05.989
Goekigo Crusade amongst the stars, reclaim the

02:04:05.989 --> 02:04:09.210
dynasties, create the true Necron Empire in our

02:04:09.210 --> 02:04:12.489
world. So Eli's saying he likes to genocide?

02:04:12.909 --> 02:04:17.029
I mean, with physical, if it's like physical

02:04:17.029 --> 02:04:20.050
immortality too, like non -aging, you can always

02:04:20.050 --> 02:04:22.109
just throw yourself into a star whenever you're

02:04:22.109 --> 02:04:25.789
done. True. Like, no, I'm deleting the backups

02:04:25.789 --> 02:04:28.739
and leaving. i probably want to go the emperor

02:04:28.739 --> 02:04:30.539
route i probably want to go the emperor route

02:04:30.539 --> 02:04:33.340
and like uh at least like take however much time

02:04:33.340 --> 02:04:35.960
it takes to fix my country and then go from there

02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:41.659
damn only has ambitions for canada not the immortality

02:04:41.659 --> 02:04:45.300
and he's like let's fix canada bro someone call

02:04:45.300 --> 02:04:48.699
up nate fallout forthin whatever his name is

02:04:48.699 --> 02:04:54.920
nanny what do you think I think I'd enjoy my

02:04:54.920 --> 02:05:00.079
enormous necrodermis cock. Massive. Okay. Shiny.

02:05:00.100 --> 02:05:03.000
I wouldn't do anything for you. No, I'd just

02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:07.859
show it off at parties. Like that. Okay. Sexual

02:05:07.859 --> 02:05:14.880
harassment without the pleasure. Turn my balls

02:05:14.880 --> 02:05:21.520
off. We did have some donations. Oh, sorry, we

02:05:21.520 --> 02:05:23.140
have to say the new question of the week. We

02:05:23.140 --> 02:05:24.920
have a new question of the week, didn't we? I

02:05:24.920 --> 02:05:29.300
think it was hashtag Black Rage. And it was,

02:05:29.399 --> 02:05:33.359
what would you see when you fell to the Black

02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:36.039
Rage? So the example is, you know, someone here

02:05:36.039 --> 02:05:38.779
would probably not see Sanguinius. Colin would

02:05:38.779 --> 02:05:42.100
see every character from Sword Art Online as

02:05:42.100 --> 02:05:48.119
his true hell. What's his name? Kirito? I think

02:05:48.119 --> 02:05:52.199
so. You would know, Colin. You would know his

02:05:52.199 --> 02:05:55.920
name. How many seasons has that been? Someone

02:05:55.920 --> 02:06:02.699
kill this man. Firing line, please. Actually,

02:06:02.720 --> 02:06:05.880
I think Colin and Eli would start to see horror's

02:06:05.880 --> 02:06:09.920
heresy books walking towards them. Slowly. I

02:06:09.920 --> 02:06:14.939
know what I'd see. It'd be me. reliving Eli telling

02:06:14.939 --> 02:06:17.140
me in Dota 2, Are you going too far forward?

02:06:17.220 --> 02:06:19.199
You've got to pull back. I've almost got him!

02:06:19.500 --> 02:06:21.460
That's not how you play the game. This isn't

02:06:21.460 --> 02:06:24.699
fun! This isn't a fun game! Why is it so popular?

02:06:24.819 --> 02:06:30.039
It's shit! I'd probably do it. I'd see Andy playing

02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:34.119
Dota 2 and trying to teach him. It's the same

02:06:34.119 --> 02:06:38.050
event. Like poetry, they rhyme. Shout out to

02:06:38.050 --> 02:06:41.250
my brother -in -law who said the worst day of

02:06:41.250 --> 02:06:45.770
his life is when we played Uno at my house. No,

02:06:45.890 --> 02:06:47.850
no, no. We played Trivial Pursuit at my house

02:06:47.850 --> 02:06:51.010
and it didn't end. He literally said it was the

02:06:51.010 --> 02:06:54.729
worst day of his life. Wow. That's quite the

02:06:54.729 --> 02:06:58.789
in -law. It was a torturous game. It didn't stop.

02:06:58.829 --> 02:07:02.340
Oh my gosh, man. I think I would probably see

02:07:02.340 --> 02:07:05.060
the Leagues of Wotan just growing, but they're

02:07:05.060 --> 02:07:06.739
regular sized. The hate never ends for the Leagues

02:07:06.739 --> 02:07:09.020
of Wotan. Bro hasn't even read their book and

02:07:09.020 --> 02:07:10.979
he just freaking hates them. Other people are

02:07:10.979 --> 02:07:13.600
having fun. I'm mad. Andy, did you read the book,

02:07:13.760 --> 02:07:15.840
the Leagues of Wotan book? Did you read the book,

02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:19.020
Hal? Did you? I haven't read the book yet. It's

02:07:19.020 --> 02:07:21.140
on my list. I've got it. It's in my library.

02:07:21.460 --> 02:07:22.899
You can at least read it before you hate it.

02:07:22.899 --> 02:07:24.600
If all the bones read it and he said it was all

02:07:24.600 --> 02:07:29.420
okay, then I'm like, hmm. That's like the biggest...

02:07:29.420 --> 02:07:30.800
Imagine if someone was like, I'm the biggest

02:07:30.800 --> 02:07:34.100
Lord of the Rings fan and I found the book mid.

02:07:35.319 --> 02:07:40.859
So I'm like, I can't get my hopes up. I'll give

02:07:40.859 --> 02:07:43.819
it a try. Shall we read the last of the donations?

02:07:44.880 --> 02:07:50.060
Yes. It's a very generous film. Alexander McCabe

02:07:50.060 --> 02:07:53.180
for a five. Gabriel Seth is the pitbull named

02:07:53.180 --> 02:07:56.119
Princess in Pitbull named Princess versus Pitbull

02:07:56.119 --> 02:08:02.939
named Spineater. Yes, I am. Big Macaque, thank

02:08:02.939 --> 02:08:07.699
you for the $5. To answer the RG question, they

02:08:07.699 --> 02:08:10.619
have the Sable brand, which makes them stick

02:08:10.619 --> 02:08:14.039
to small groups and also even more violent. They

02:08:14.039 --> 02:08:16.859
can break out of it, though. What does RG stand

02:08:16.859 --> 02:08:23.300
for? Raven God. Oh, okay. Donkey Man USA for

02:08:23.300 --> 02:08:26.340
another five bucks. Ideally, part one of the

02:08:26.340 --> 02:08:29.060
Super Cup will be out in the next couple of months.

02:08:29.720 --> 02:08:35.819
Amazing. Oh, my God. Colin needs to say this

02:08:35.819 --> 02:08:40.140
out loud, not me. Gray Boss, thank you for being

02:08:40.140 --> 02:08:43.460
a member for four months. A vibrating necrosis.

02:08:43.869 --> 02:08:48.069
We've come full circle. Appreciate it. I do appreciate

02:08:48.069 --> 02:08:50.289
the corgi and the lobster hat thing, though.

02:08:50.390 --> 02:08:54.909
Nice. Another Colin one. Scum 34 for 10 bucks.

02:08:55.289 --> 02:08:58.069
Colin, in your opinion of the new lore of Halo,

02:08:58.229 --> 02:09:00.590
what's the worst edition? The Endless. Because

02:09:00.590 --> 02:09:02.649
they did the Rise of Skywalker thing where they

02:09:02.649 --> 02:09:04.710
just tried to pretend the previous movie didn't

02:09:04.710 --> 02:09:07.109
happen because it was garbage and no one liked

02:09:07.109 --> 02:09:09.869
it. Somehow Palpatine returned. Yeah, and the

02:09:09.869 --> 02:09:12.710
end result is just nothing. The Endless from

02:09:12.710 --> 02:09:16.550
Endless Space? I wish. Those are cool. When are

02:09:16.550 --> 02:09:18.189
we getting the Endless Space sci -fi sit -down,

02:09:18.229 --> 02:09:23.569
huh? One day. That's you, champ. Also, fellas,

02:09:23.810 --> 02:09:29.430
really big one now. 50 Canadian. Thank you very

02:09:29.430 --> 02:09:34.609
much. We love you. Thank you. That's like $5

02:09:34.609 --> 02:09:38.789
trillion here in Canada. That's like four eggs.

02:09:39.430 --> 02:09:42.170
Thank you very much. Good games, lads, against

02:09:42.170 --> 02:09:45.770
the Orcs. Sucks that I missed it, but it is how

02:09:45.770 --> 02:09:49.630
it is. Colin, have you tried Tides of Torment

02:09:49.630 --> 02:09:52.489
yet? And which race have you tried? That's for

02:09:52.489 --> 02:09:55.710
Warhammer DLC as it came out. Eli, who is your

02:09:55.710 --> 02:09:58.050
main in Doja 2? Love you guys. Love you too.

02:09:58.189 --> 02:10:00.090
We love you too. Thank you very much for this

02:10:00.090 --> 02:10:04.100
$50. I've not actually tried it yet. actually

02:10:04.100 --> 02:10:06.340
most excited for the Norsca rework, to be honest,

02:10:06.539 --> 02:10:09.859
because it looks cool. And playing Norsca beforehand

02:10:09.859 --> 02:10:17.619
was deeply unfun. Not deeply, but it was... Who

02:10:17.619 --> 02:10:21.399
is your main in Dota 2, by the way? Why haven't

02:10:21.399 --> 02:10:23.880
you played with me yet? That's a good point.

02:10:24.060 --> 02:10:25.760
It's been years since I've played. Run, Andy!

02:10:26.720 --> 02:10:31.239
I used to play... I think the most hours I probably

02:10:31.239 --> 02:10:36.340
had on Pugna. uh just kind of loves to suck no

02:10:36.340 --> 02:10:38.239
i doesn't like i think because i had at the time

02:10:38.239 --> 02:10:40.279
when i last played it that was a good build for

02:10:40.279 --> 02:10:44.979
him but um what's the vampire one the the night

02:10:44.979 --> 02:10:50.479
stalker oh night night stalker um i can't remember

02:10:50.479 --> 02:10:55.460
who else to be honest um i don't know it's been

02:10:55.460 --> 02:10:58.369
ages man i don't i can't i can't recall it's

02:10:58.369 --> 02:11:00.729
like 10 years for me literally that's good and

02:11:00.729 --> 02:11:02.489
night stalker is really cool i never see him

02:11:02.489 --> 02:11:04.810
do very good but he sure is no no but we some

02:11:04.810 --> 02:11:08.369
sometimes sometimes we do good yeah i don't know

02:11:08.369 --> 02:11:11.430
how character though character still is nice

02:11:11.430 --> 02:11:13.010
stalker he's literally called nice stalker that

02:11:13.010 --> 02:11:16.149
that's there you go lord crimes chat uh anyways

02:11:16.149 --> 02:11:19.569
my my main and don't who is juggernaut he's my

02:11:19.569 --> 02:11:22.489
favorite spin to win baby spin the win i also

02:11:22.489 --> 02:11:25.210
love terrorblade uh we've been playing a lot

02:11:25.210 --> 02:11:27.010
of phantom lancer lately and it's been going

02:11:27.010 --> 02:11:31.300
well oh no my name was a drow ranger oh god i

02:11:31.300 --> 02:11:35.159
hate that one my main was grim stroke that was

02:11:35.159 --> 02:11:38.880
it it sounds funny when you say that yeah but

02:11:38.880 --> 02:11:41.640
it is his name yeah it is what is bro's name

02:11:41.640 --> 02:11:44.260
grim stroke it's like he's got like a paintbrush

02:11:44.260 --> 02:11:47.300
stuff uh but when house has stroke with anything

02:11:47.300 --> 02:11:50.359
else it's just like you know immediately stroking

02:11:50.359 --> 02:11:53.819
it yeah yeah appreciate it i've been wanting

02:11:53.819 --> 02:11:56.369
i tried slark the other day I did okay, but we

02:11:56.369 --> 02:11:58.729
lost. I missed one pounce and I literally lost

02:11:58.729 --> 02:12:01.670
the game for us. I went like 14 and 3, but we

02:12:01.670 --> 02:12:05.729
still lost. We've been gaming Dota 2 a lot. We

02:12:05.729 --> 02:12:09.409
gotta stream some Dota freaking 2. And he's ready

02:12:09.409 --> 02:12:12.090
to throw his head against the ceiling. Alternatively,

02:12:12.390 --> 02:12:17.729
what if I suck start a shotgun? With that being

02:12:17.729 --> 02:12:19.970
said, again, thank you guys for donating, for

02:12:19.970 --> 02:12:21.550
watching, for all the new members, particularly

02:12:21.550 --> 02:12:24.539
this member. Again, sorry, the... Fridays, obviously,

02:12:24.619 --> 02:12:26.779
is the live, and then the remaster comes out

02:12:26.779 --> 02:12:28.659
during the week. So if you want to catch the

02:12:28.659 --> 02:12:32.020
remasters, or the live ones, you have to join

02:12:32.020 --> 02:12:34.359
the Discord because that's where it's posted.

02:12:34.659 --> 02:12:37.939
It still exists. It's in the Discord. So you've

02:12:37.939 --> 02:12:41.300
got to join up there. And we'll see you guys

02:12:41.300 --> 02:12:43.819
very, very soon. And just shout out really quick

02:12:43.819 --> 02:12:46.060
to all the fine people who keep asking me, where

02:12:46.060 --> 02:12:50.029
did my bed go? It's in another room. It's not

02:12:50.029 --> 02:12:54.090
here. No one stole it. It's gone. No bed. He

02:12:54.090 --> 02:12:56.050
doesn't sleep on the floor in beds anymore. He

02:12:56.050 --> 02:13:00.989
sleeps like a vampire in the closet. And on that

02:13:00.989 --> 02:13:03.449
note, bye everybody! Bye!